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Intkoduciion: I.— THE MAN :— Wilfrid Laurier, L. 0. David Ill Laurier in Parliament, Rodolphe Lemieux.. VIII Mr. Laurier's home, J. S. Willison XI II.— THE WORK, Ulric Barthe XXI Mr. Laurier's I'arliamentari/ debut — (Translation) Quebec Legislative Assembly, 10th November 1871. 1 Abolition of Vital Representation — (Translation) Quebec Legislative Assembly, 24th November 1871... Louis Riel in the Commons — House of Commons, l5th .^pril, 1874 21 The Tariff question in 1877— House of Commons, 22nd March, 1877 41 Political Liberalism — (Translation) Lecture at Quebec, 26th .luno, 1877 ."il The Quebec Ministerial Crisis in 1878 — House of Commons, 11th April, 1878 81 Liewfenniit- Governor fj''tdtier's Art — House of Commons, 12th March, l.s7y 80 All iilfectimj Scene in flie House — House of Commons, 15th March, 1 880 Ill A Toast to the French Acailemij — (Tuaxslatiox) Bamjuet to Mr. Louis Frechette, 17th Xov.,1880 11.5 The Construction of the Pacijic — House of Commons, 21st December, 1880 123 > TABLE OF CONTENTS ij- Jivnorali/e Eilirunl Hhikf at Mnulrcul — 0'"a>''*I'VTIO\) HiiiLjuot to Mr. JJIiike, J'.Hh Miiicli, IHSI 141 T/ir Ontario liuiiuilarij qinsthni — ilou^ie of Coiniuons, 4ih April, 1882 147 A ijmnfioii of autoitomi/— (The Lioenirt Act, 18S:{) IStli Miucli, 1884 159 I'arlidnnnl Life— ( Tkaxslation) Lecture at Montiettl, I'.ttli May, I8H4 171 Au'itlier question of Provincial Autonomy — (Thu Franchise bill) 17tli April, 188J 193 The wrontl llebellion in tlie Nurth- IKe.*< — House of Commons, 7 til -luly, 1^85 211 The Execntimi of Jlicl — House of Commons, IGth March, ISSti 251 Mr. Ldiirier at Toronto — Horticultural Pavilion, 1 0th December, 1 880 303 Home Rule for Ireland — House of Commons, 21st April, 1887 341 Mr. Laurier as leader of the Canadian Liberal Party — (Tiiansl.) Speech ut Somerset, 2ml August, 1887 353 Unlimited Commercial Reciprocity— House of Commons, r)th April, 1881 389 JJeath nf Jlonorahfe Thomas White — House of Commons, 23r(l April, 1888 439 Mr. Laurier before the people of Ontario — Speech at Oakville, 13th August, 1888 441 Thv Fisheries* Emliroijlio — Speed J at St. Thomas, (i)nt.) 27th August, 1888 463 The Fishery dispute — Jlouse.of Commons, 26th February, 1889 469 The Jesuits' Estates^ House of Commons, 2Sth March, 1889 493 f I , *i I TAnr.E OF CONTENTS /// '2ilh June, 1S«'J_(TraN.si,ation) National fiuiiqiiet at Quehec ^ori A\Mexmije <>/ I'cace-m. Speoch nt Toronto, 3()tli September, I.HS',) ryy^ The Dual Lnnijumjc qiiestii>n^ House of Commons, 17th February, 1^0(» ru\ Triumph of I'rocinnifif /^'//A/.i,— (Tim.vslatiox) Banijuet at Montreal, 2nil July IMIKJ ,i„9 Consulting index (qr) h I M 11/ 1H71-1SOO WILFRID LAURIER ON THE PLATFORM INTRODUCTION THE 3N.d:A.3sr WILFRID LAURIER Tall, thin and straight as an arrow, with the pale, sickly face of the student, hair chestnut, thick and inclined to curl : countenance mild, serious and ren- dered sympathetic liy an air of nielanclmly ; manners plain, delicate, reserved and res]tect-commanding; voice sweet and scmorous. Charact r lofty, peaceful. frank and independent ; a choice nature inclined to the lieautiful and the good, loving justice and truth. Mind u]tright. hroad and luminous ; judgment sound, calm and deej) ; inuigination sulllcicnt ; me- niorv excfllent. IV INTHnDUCTION The most remjvrkable I'iirliiimentiiry orator oftlio (lay possessed by Lower Canada. Others may liave iixjre brilliant eb)quenee, more captivating ima,cery ; he has neither the voice, the gesture, nor the fire of the tribune; his temperament like his nature does not lend itself to those impetuous movements, those energetic inspiratioii'^.fiir which certain men arc noted. Jfe is not gifted with the energy of Frechette, the fire of Chapleau or the nervous and flowery language of Chauveau, I)ut more than our distinguished orators has he the tone, the method, the loftiness of ideas, the ci»rrev.t reasoning, tlic purity of diction and the elegance of language which constitute the Parliamen- tary orator. Eloquence has often been compared to the torrent which hurls itself with thunder or to the rij)|>ling of tlie Itrook which tlowe* through Howery meadows. Mr. Laurier'a elo<iucnce resembles neither the one nor the other ; it may ]»e compared rather to the pure and limpid waters of the great rivers of our coun- try. iMr. Laurier's well balanced intellectual faculties produce in him that measured language for which he is distinguished and which so well befits Parliament. His eloquence springs rather from the mind than from the heart; he does not sjteak for an hour over a comma as do eome lawyers and does nut lose himself in the clouds like the poets ; no. at a glance, he em- braces all sides of a «iucstion, seizes its biading prin- cii>le and draws therefrom a series of reasonings which are connected together like the links of a chain, of close arguments, whose dryness he tempers Avith noble thoughts and ca[>tivating reflexions. • INTRODrt'TIoN Always master dt' liis thoujilitn. lio novor says inuro thtan he wanti to any and lie i-ays it without ♦■irort nt' mind, voice c)r gesture and witiiout hesitation. His hvnguajje is so simple ami so natural, his delivery so easy and his thoujihtss so true as to give theimpres.sion that any one could do as muih. Tliis is i)rccisely the chiel' merit of the jjreat orators, of Mr. Tliier.s, tor instance, to seem to say just what every one helieves that he has already said or thought. This ])er feet ion is not attained witiiout study ; to Le aide to treat dillicult t|Uestions so as to make them intelligihle to every one. calls tor a lucidity, a pene- tration of mind, which few men possess, and great reasoning jtower. Mr. Laurier enjoys the ailvantage of l)eing a born orator, hut he lias the merit of having cultivated this sitlendid natural gift, of having respected it, and of having understoi-d that the oratoi must l»e an honest and a good man. Listen to him and it is at once seen that his language is the echo of conviction, of correctness (»f mind, and of ii noble heart. And the im{)ressiou which he creates upon his auditory constitutes the greatest and best part of his force and liis merit. .Mr. Laurier was born on tiie twentieth Novembei', 1S41, at St-Tiin a (juiet, modest parish, which little thought, especially then, of producing orators and statesmen. He is the son of Mr. Carolus Laurier, land surveyor. He entered the Assomi)tion cidlege in 1854 and gave early evidence of his literary and oratorical abilities. He was the i)opuhir speaker of the college and the fraiiicr of its addresses. Laurier was a good seholai, fcrious and kindly, VI 1!«tuoiu(;ti<»n esteomed by his teachers and his comrades and noted already for the j)oHtaMioss and delicacy which are his. characteristics at present, lie was as a general thing ohedieiit to tlic rules, but he incurred punishment several times for jioin^ without leave to hear the lawyers plead in the villajre court house or to listen to the popular orators. Mis vocation was asserting itself in spite of rules and rcjruhitions. Having linished his studies, he \\g t to .Montreal to study law witii Mr llodolphc Lnlhuniue, mernljer for .Ta(!quos C'artier. His student life was not stormy and dissipated like that of so many young incMi. who imagine that there remains notiiing for them to le.irn after they leave college. He was sidmitted to the I)iir in ISflland jtractised for two years in ^[ontreal. Tiiis was the time when every one was turning lawyer, when tjileiit alone was not enough to get on ra])idly. i.iurier naoreover soon l)egan to feel the first attacks of the disease which for a long time caused much fear to his friends. The»e reasons induced him to tpiit the city in ISfiG to esta- blish himself at .\rthabaska and take editorial charge of /.(' hi'frirlicnr in the [)lace of Mr. J. ]>. I*]ric Horion, '■ l.'Enfiml Trrriblr, " who had just then died. b' Ih'j'rirlu'nr ceased to ajtpear some months after- wards and Laurier had tiic happy thouglit to devote liims^If exclusively to his profession, inaUing himself Ml a short time a reputation as a lawyer which b: ought him money and acquiring a popularity which led to his election ia 1871 to tiie Fiocal Legislature l)y a majority of 10(MI votes over .Mr. llennuing. The efTuct whicii his elotjuence produced in Par- liament and the applause which it won even from his INTnODUlTIOX VII ' udver3arie.« will liercinciubored. The youthful orator's debut was greeted with flowers and the riaing star was sr.luted on all sides. At the last general elections lortheFedend Hougo, he ran against Mr Tesaier and succeeded in getting elected. Invited tosecond the address in reply to the Speech fr Jiii the Throne, he at once took his place in the foremost rank of theoratorsof the Federal I'nrliiinient. On that itccasinu, he yielded ton much, perliaps, to the desire to please the majority of the llou^e, hy giving exj)ressi<in to ide.is whic i <lo not (juite agree with the opinions to wiiich he has often given utteiiince in favor of independence. The Kngiifcli members v.ere unanimous in their praise of Mr f.aurier's talent, hut they were still more astonished wlien they heard him deliver in KnglisJi his splendid speech iigainst the expulsion ot' Kiel. Tn that speech, Mr Laurier displayed with (M'lat the cnr- rectness of reas(tning. power of tliulcctit; and all those eminent oratorical ciualities which we liave noted. Mr r.aurier speaks English as lluently as French, a precious advantjige destined to give him conside- ralile influence in a House almost wholly English. liauricr is therefore one of the most remarkable men whom tlie future lias in store for us. Lower- Canada has reason to count upon him and he will not disap- point tlie patriotic hopes insiiired l)y his brilliant debut, for his character is <)n tlie same level jis his intellect. L. (>. DAVID, (III the Ciiiirrii r ilf Miiitri'iif, of llth Od.iliir, I,S74.) ?fir IXTlKiDl* riox LAURIER IN PARLIAMENT It is not everyone who jileases who lan lie a dt'l)ater in the House of ("oiiini<»ns. To coniniund the attention of Parliament, it is not auHicient to have the eloiiuence whieii moves and swaya the masses, and the man, whose voice and action liave over and over Hjrain electrified the crowd and aroused frenzied Hplilause. will l)e hardly remarked hy the House How many men jrifted with remarkahle talents, skilled andcnnnin«i in discussion, have miserably failed when they have had to take part in a dehate heforetht House I To hea Parliamenlary orator, in the genuine sense of the words, one must hring to the dis- cussion not only an ajrreeahle voice and a chaste style, hutaraie faculty of organization, a very practical mind, and a great knowledge of facts. Mr l.aurier possesses these ((ualities and it is enough to once hear him to be no longer astonished at the fact that he has taken rank as the foremost debater of the Parliament. No one else knows so well how tt> express in correct and llexible language what he wants to say ; no one else speaks with so much authority. Partisans or adversaries admit that he speaks as a statesman, not fur efTcct, although his language is musical, but for a real result. With him, e^ich word is weigiied and corrc9i)onds to an inliexilile resolution. Does he state a])rinciple, an idea, which'it does not weary to return to, it should be seen with what ability and what re- sources he attains bis object. The hurmonious phrase, the solter and methodical gesture, all in L'lurier lieara the stamp of the originality of his character. IXTl!«)I>lXTI(i.\ IX LAURIER AxM) CHAPLKAU Nereis Cliaplcau ri?in«i to speak, ftniijilit almost be said thai lie is muvcliiii^; to tlio assault, there i3 so much movement in him. It is enough to see that Ma/.in;j: eye, that hr(»\v tVciglited witli jiassion. thai liead thr<»\vn hack, that hair whiih he take.=! a <lelij;ht in shaking. that open breast waiting tor and provokiu}? the tight, to feel that the orator has an alisolute conli- denoein tiie jiower ot'his tahmt. Tlie clear, re.";ounding voice .seizes the audience and holds it under a charm. He concentrates the attention ofthe llouseupon him- sell'and always know how to render his si»eeche3 attractive hy laying stress on happy expressiona and em[ihasizing witty sayings. On the other hand, look at Laurierl He rises cool and collected. His harmonious voice, his elegant and eober gestures have a soothing etVect on his hearer?. No incident disturbs his presence of mind. Tn the face ofthe greatest danger, liegeostotheend of his tiiought. Everytliing about him denotes the calmness of a self possessed mind. Cliapleau's eloquence is more animated, more brilliant, more emphatic, more nervous and more theatrical. Laurier's elofiuence is more self contained, more loity, more nolilu and more persuasive. Chapleau's speeches are often captious, ditruse and obscure. Passion and vehemence are tlieir heading features. Laurier's speeches, on the other hand, are always clear, correct, studied, and his language is elegant and chaste. ■V INTRODICTION Althou-rli irr.'iver and Ic^n pathotic than Cliiipleau, Liuuicr sometinjt's risws to spheres unl<iiv)\vn t<» otlier orators and wliirh his oratorical genius alone is capahle ol' attainin<f. His voice then l»ecome^ more liariiiiiuions and inor(f sonorous and ins eloquence assuiiK?-! surdi a ciliaractcr ol" majesty and nohility tliat it touches your heart and causei you to (piivc^r with enthu?-iasm. To sum up. Chapleau is the orator oj' the crowd and I. uirior is aliovc all a I'arliameutary orator. L.XURIER BEFORE THE PEOPLE. Alth'iaLrli the House of ("omnions is the stage on which Mv. L.iuri<'r has ino^l displaye<I hisLxrcat talents, our leader is not a little indeltted for his ^reat poi)u- larity to his successes tm the hustiniis. Who iloes not recall the famous oratorical joust at L )iigueuil at the election of Mr I'roroiitaino. on the oOtli July, ISS!*.. Mr Laurier spoke licforc Mr Chapleau, it is true, hut he liiid tin; al)ility to destroy in advance all his adver- sary's arijuiiHMits. It secuH to me that T still see him turning to tlic Secretary of State an i hurling at him this stuniuug apo-?(ropiie ; Vou will speak after nie, hut T know wluil you will say and T will therefore answer it at once. For a long time past T have known the circle in which the liall chained to your feet per- mits you to trav( 1 " . Fo.\, the great Fo.y, could not have ch:iracteri/ed more hitingly the humiliating position in which Mr. Chapleau found himself at that time. Another incident will show the enormous INTItoDICTION XI power he wielded over the crowd. T (luoto tlie words of my friend Donoso of I'ljimn l.iberaU". Durinii tlio Lociil elections of ISSO, thcro was u i^roat meeting ht'ld ot the Emrlisli spoakiii'.' electors of .Meguuii!. Kiinaticisiii liiul (lone its work : the < >rangeinon, by means of the Kiel (juestion,liail arouseJ the invjinlices of the Protestant elemt^'nt against us. One of our liiends was ooncludmg his cijieecli, when an < trangeinun of the jilace sliouied out in a rage : "none of you have spoken of l{iel ami none of you will dare to do so ! '' Veils arose, vociferations broke out. in all directions. I.am-ier simply replieil : •• / will. " And, worming liim^flf into their sympathies by an appeal to ]?riti*h loyalty and by reminding them of the spirit of tolerance and jiistici^ nhioh should animate all the eiti/.ens of a mixed country, he related to them the details of the dark tragedy in the North West. We have been told that that hostile crowd liowed their hea<l.< not wholly convinced, hut tamed, sul^jugited by the courage of tiie man and the elotjuence of the orator. RODoidMiK rd:MTKrx, llii a li' tiiif liilur.' II..' ('lull NMiiiinal ot MihiIiimI, (in the 2'itli N.iviinlicr, Ibs'i.J Mk LAURIER'S HOME M r. r.aurior'rt home is ;i two-st<irey red lirick liouse, witli little attempt at outside itrnamentation, with no su<rj^e=tion td" o->toiitatiuri, hardly sugjrestivc of wealth, hut of only nniilerate means and simple comfDrt. A verandah runs across the i'ront of the house, to which a high flight of steps asionds. Vou enter intn a wi<le hall, and are shown into the drawing rinuu to tli-' left. Thia room runs the full width of the hou-ie, and is tastefully, but nut extravagantly furnished. There are many pretty and tastefid decorations uiion its wall.-?, liome pictures that attract tiie fancy and engage tlie sym|iathies, and here or there a statue <jr a purtra't of XII INTRoDIi TIiiN soTiic oiic or utlior of i\w riil)or!il chiol'tiiini. tVniu tho lessons of wlmse caroer Mr liUiricr Iiii9 gathoruil cou- rnfje, or foriiied |)riiici])l(', or ciiuglit u purr uinl lofty inspiration. rpon the rijrlit, entered l'r(»ni tlie hall, is a parlor, and lievtind that is the diiiinjj; room, all hearinu; the eanie niarlvs of (juiet elegance, the same ahsence of lavish display, and all sujrgestive of the same rare, situple home life in whieh the liiheral leader and Madame iiaurier delight. The platform at the rear of the house, Hanked by II profusion of flowers, is one of Mr Laurier's favt)rito Bumme r resorts. Here he often does his morning reading. Here in the evening the visit<»r smokes, if smoke he does, an exercise in which he will not he joined by Mr iiaurier, while the host talks in his frank. "asy. unaffected way, and ''still the wonder grows ' at this man's mastery of pure, stron<'-, melo- dious English. Tl>9 grounds are eight acres in extent. Thehouse is approached hy a winding drive through a grove oi' fine young trees. The grounds are 1)roken midway by an ahruitt elevation, and tlie plateau above is reached by a flight of steps or an invigorating climlj, ns may best suit the fancy of the visitor. The summit of ibis ridge and the face of the ascending hillside are thick with maples, and all the grounds form a line natural p' rk which has not been refined out of the rugged image of nature l>y over-decoration, nor marre<l in its native beauty by over-cultivation. THE VOICES Of (.MII.DKEN. All about and all throughout the house are rare INTFti'l'l (THiN Mil plants iiml llowcrsi, ni' wliicli Mjuliiiiit' LauritT is a (Un'oted lover. Nor lo ymi misH tlio voices of chil- dren, iiotuitlHtiindinjr that Mr. lianrior and Mailaine l.anricr have no oliililrt'n of their own, f(>r till! house socnis full of vi<itin;^ littlo oncH, and Mr. liauricr's unaiTectt'd love for his little ^ursts. tin; attention with which III' heai'H their little irrievances and he«t iwj conuscl and adniinisttM'.s conHolation, is one of the line.--t traits in one of the finest characters in the puhlic life of Canada. The children, too. trust him instinctively, and seek his counsel with simple, delij^htful contidencp, uiulall their trouble is consoled. fl -Mr. Mlal<(! hasthissame marked t'ondnt'ss forchil- dren, and the little ones jj;o to him with the same instinctive trust. Hut. in the (ireat Advocate the reve- lation of this trait is a surprise. Tn Mr. Laurier it is sinip'y what one expects. MADAMK I.AflUEl!. Tn .Madame f^aurier one finils many of the same (lualities which make the i-haracter of her distin- guished husband. There is the same unafTected friend- liness, a refinement of manner and ;i, native kindliness and sympathetic courtesy which put the nmst retiring; visitor completely and forgetfully at home, and whi(di is not less marked in her outside intercourse with the critical and not always sym()athetie world of society and of politics. And there is. too. a purpose and a spirit and a pelf mastery in this amiahle, kindly, admiralde woman that would make her very stronj^in the crises of life. One knows readily that the homo is the sphere of her heart and of her thought, and one XIV INTUMKITTloN recoj^ni/.es 03 instinctively tliat hIio has the native grace and tact and streiigtli for any plnce that I'ortune may call upon licr to cntor, and t hat, whatever Iturdcn of care and rc.s{)onsi!iility the future may roll ui»on Mr. Laurier'.s .slioulders, hi-i wife will never fail to encourage, stimulate and strenj^tlicn him. TriK t.inuMtv But naturally the room of suprente interest in the home of Mr. fiaurior ig the lil)rary. There the Liberal leader 8i)end3 many of his leisure hours, and there he is most likely to lead the talk to topics that reveal his wide range of readinj,' and best betray the solidity of his mind,the grasp and scope of his intellect, the taste and fancy of the critic and scholar. Perhaps few men in Canada have a finer collec- tion of the best works of French and English literature. Here again the Liberal leader has not aimed at display. His collection of books is a modest one as contrasted with many of the greater libraries that too often siguity wealth rather than culture. His books have been selected for the voice within, not for the covering without. They have been read, not simply exhibited, and from the pages of his favorite English volumes he has acquired a command of pure, strong, sym- pathetic English that has made him the peer of the very masters of tliis tongue to " which he was not born." Mr. Laurier has a marked fondness for the best books of philosophy and works of higher research. He has barely patience with the dogmas of warring theologians. He is more than familiar with the I INTIUtlUt TION XV clioicest English poetry, nii»l puts Hums in the first runic of ptMits. 15ut. the liooUs of liis iieiirt arc Siiakea- peare, MiKauluy,tiie speeches of John IJiight, and tlie few speeclies and pnpers of liinroln that have hccn preserved. Lincoln's toucliin^' address at (lettyshurg and his second inaugural are great fav»>rites with tlio Liberal leader, and many of the eloquent sentences of John Hright's strong and simple oratory come readily to his lips. On the walls are portraits of the late lion. (Jeorge llrown, I-ouis* Joseph I'apineuu, (lladetone, Edward lUake and other of the great leaders of Lihe- ralism. On the lines of policy laid down by these great men .Mr. Laurier lays his faith and shapes his oareer, and in the sijuple, masterful English of Uright and Lincoln he reasons and persuades iind wins upon the peot)le. O.N THE l'I..\Tl-oliM For many years Mr. Laurier has been one of the most popular oratcrs of his luitive province. One of the greatest of his platform succespe.s was his famous address on Liberalism, delivered in the city of Quebec in the summer of 1877. That great speech was pro- nounced before one of the most cultured audiences that could be gathered in tiie Ancient Capital, and the orator's was an unequivocal triumph. One who was pre.?ont on tliat occasion told the writer that when Mr. Laurier rose to uddrcns the great audience before him ho was deathly pale. A momen- tary fear that he was ill passed upon his friends, a subduv • whisper passed from lip to liji. and then for several moments in absolute stillness the orator and XVI IXTUODITTION his jiudience looked into each other's factes. The ^|»c'al^<'r fU'oiiounccd his opening sentences with eahn and measured deliberation, but the trenaor in his voice was hardly concealed ; liis eyes were yet bravely scanning the bearing and his judgment deliberately searching the temper of his audience. Then as he saw the looU of mere curiosity pass from the faces before him and an awakening interest manifest its kindly presence, and the kindling of enthusiasm freshen i)n the more earnest faces, the tremor passed out of the speaker's voice, and the full courage of eontidence came to him, and wlien he had pronounced the elocjuent i)eroration of that magnificent address he was by common consent more than a politician, more than a brilliant campaigner, more than a mere platform debater. liy that noble address he proved himself a profound thinker, a ripe and cultured scholar, and a very master of pure, persuasive oratory. But that method of feeling tor the temper of his audience is still a favorite one with the Liberal leader. The iipening sentences of his speeches are always pro- nounced with great deliberateness, and even in his most eloquent and most impassioned passages he never loses iiis absolute self-mastery. Tie can fight a mob from the hustings with a (luiet, steady self- jiossession that knows no wavering. He never flinches in the teeth of the most hostile demonstration. He rarely fails to subdue the most turbulent audience to order and decorum. The most brutal partisans yield to his engaging persuasiveness and quiet, uncompro- mising firtnness. But .Mr. iiaurier is at his best in the House of Ctimmons. Tiiere his liest eloquence is spoken, his lofty patriotism is most effectively INTR(M)I'(."rinN- X VII revealed, and there he rises to his utmost supremacy U5 the master of men's mintls uiid emotions. By his patient ctmrtesy and kindly cnnsideratoness for friend and opponent, he commands the he^t attention and the best feeling of that assembly. Whatever estimate men of ditrering opinions may put uptm his abilities, few will deny that he is the mnst jtojjular party leader that Ikh ever sat in the Canadian Parliament. EI.HVATKI) TO TIIK l.IIiKRAI, LEAOEUSHIP. Perhaps few outside of the Liberal I'arliamentary party know how hardly Mr. I.aurinr fought the pro- posal to elevate him to the Liberal leadership. He is not a man greedy of honor. He has gone to no man seeking gift or place or preferment. He had the confidence of his associates, an honorable place in their council !, and a mode of living suited to his taste and his income. He would not entertain seriously the proposal that he shouhl change all this, advance beyond the limit of his ambition, give himself wlutlly to the business of i)olitics and take up the burden.9 and the responsil)ilities which had broken Alexander Mackenzie in the rii)e prime of a stalwart manhood, and had borne down the great frame and the peerless intellect of Edward lilake. One can well understand that Mr. Laurier, knowing a>< he did the service Mr. Mackenzie and Mr. iilake had given t(» Canada — for they had no more loyal follower — .standing in Mr. lilake's very presence, his magnificent voice still echoing through the Commons Chamber, enthusiasm for the great leader's marvellous resources as a Par- liamentary tactician still warm in the hearts of his XVIII IXTRnorcTIOX followers — for nowhere was ]Mr. Blake so miu'li a niabter of liis fellows as on the fluor of Parliament — knowinjr all this, and feeling all this, one can under- etand that Mr. Laurier put from him as unwortliy of one poor moment's consideration the nomination for the leadershii) hest<nved upon him by his Parliamen- tary associates. JUit the nomination was pre:*sed, urged with increasing persistence and growing unani- mity, and at last Mr. Launer yielded, moved because he waa called, not that he would go, and in Ihe hope that he would be ashed to give but a temporary ser- vice in the high place to which he had not aspired, and which was not of the true purpose of hia heart or of his ambition. Perliaps Mr. Laurier was not alone in the cunvic- tion that his assumption of the leadersliip was but an experiment, and that failure was well witliin the possi- bilities. But long before he had completed his first session as Edward IMake's successor there was no voice from the ()p})osition benches that did not speak witli enthusiasm of his patience,antl prudence, and courage, and sagacity ; and no man among the Liberals of the Commons who was not his devoted friend and follower. CllAKACTKU ANO MliTIlODS. Tie is not viciously aggressive. He is not unwisely pugnacious. Put lie is very, very firm ; a calm, strong, steadfast man, who will rot l;c turned from his pur])ose while a hope of achievement remains, who will esti- mate well thestrcngth of the forces that nuut beover- come, and who basin a very unusui^l degree that courage that will build for a future triumph on the INTRODUCTION XIX fresh ruins of defeat. He has no uiiiul fur the paltry jars ofriv.il factions. He couhl not achieve success throufj;h intrigue. The influences which dcbastf and demoralize and corrupt have no place in his methods. He cannot ti<!;ht well except his heart lie in it. His heart is not in the trivialities of parish politics. Hut this man would be a giant in some great national crisis, and there is no labor or sacrifice he would not give to a cause in which his heart and conscience were engaged. He is not a lladical. He is a Liberal ; a Liberalin every conviction of his mind; a strong, brave, independent thinker, and a man whom duty, rather than ambition, will compel to play a great part in the future of his country. As he is esteemed and trusted Ijy his friends, as he is lield iu regard and honor by his Parliamentiirv associates, so he deserves to hold the confidence of the whole Cana- dian people .T. S. WTLLTSOX, (In tlio Toronlo (llolie olMinli AuKust, 1»89.) THIE "W-OEyK: The foregoing gives an ideii of the luan. The por- trait drawn by Mr. L. 0. David in 1874 is still, after the lapse of sixteen years, a striking resemblance ; and time, far from obliterating its lines, lias rather graven them more deeply. Tn professing for Mr.Laurier's talent an admiration amounting to the enthusiastic, Mr. Ilodolphe Lemieux has not only responded to the impulse natural to a young man, but he has given expression to a senti- ment shared l)y our entire generation. To better know the new Liberal leader and to make him Ijetter known to its readers in the English provinces, the managing editor of the lUnJn', Mr. Wil- lison, has even taken tlie troul)]e to seek him out in his rural retreat at Arthabuhka and has given us a most charming home picture, wliich encircles, like a frameof foliage, tlie fine, calm figure of the thinker the public man and the orator. I have reserved for myself the task of saying a word as to his work. The sketcli which I have the honor to (tffer to the public has led me to study him thoroughly. One cannot si>end months, as T have just done, in association with a man's tlioughts, with- out becoming deeply imbued with them. Written eloiiuence, stripped of the magic of voice and gesture, is like a bird deprived of its wings xxir INTUODICTTON has lost the incessiuit moltility which charmed and dazzled the liearer, but which at the same time con- ceuled its finer shade*, as well as its defects. It is Iiencetbrward an anatomical subjoct laid on tho table for dissection and upon wliich the scalpel may work its will at leisure. Under these condititms, elociuenoe appeals only to reason and no longpr to tl)e senses. Still, tho.-ie cold, inatlimato pages, which Iliavc; iiad to read and re-read so 'luiny times, analyze, turn over in all directions, and, so to say, learn by heart, have excited in luc the same emotions wiiicli must have previously thrilled the numerous audiences of the orator. The attentive reader, wlio ])eruse3 this volume, will not escape frum this mysterious inliiicncc. lie will not have before him the inisc rii scene of the popular or parliamentnry giitherings, always so pre- disposing to Sdlenin thouglits. IFc will not see rising up above the thousand curious heads of the crowd or emerging from th(> horizontal line of the benches of the Commons that tall ligure, that pale and medi- tative countenance, and that large and well developed brow so indicative of strength of mind. His senses Avill miss tlie music of that singularly grave voice, of that sonorous accentuation, as classical as the accompanying gesture, never rising above a certain height, except in the great movements, learnedly prepared, and of which Mr. Laurier. unlike his rival in the Commons, Mr. Chaplcau, does not make an immoderate use. All these accessories are wanting here. And yet this lifeless stenography, often dull and incomplete, still emits powerful, irresistible gal- vanic shocks. And upon what does this depend ? On INTIiOnUCTION xxrii tlio fact that Mr. liaurier ia not a moro rlietorician, that his eh)4uence is not a marble statue, and that, stripped of the perishable heauty of exterior forms, it still possesses a much more beautiful soul, the soul of thought, true, cijnvinced and strong. The human mind is so complex that it is a com- plete study to try to discover the true secret of the talent of a superior man. The humble compiler of Mr. fjaurier's speeches believes that he has found it — perhaps without seeking to do so — through the force of circumstances. Tiu'.^e speeches were scattered through a hundred (lifforent collections and news- pai»ers, and between them there were gaps of time and ])lace, twenty years lietween the (irst and the last ; but. in bringing them together, I think I have united ihe thread of Ariadne which runs through them all. Mr. Laurier's style of discussion is a syntiiesis, just as that of other powerful orators is an analysis. Both he and ^'r. Mercier prove, by their extraordi- nary aHccn laacy over thnir contemporaries, that both modes are weapons of equal value in expert hands. Read calmly one of Mr. Laurier's dissertations and what strikes you at the first glance is the perfect clearness of the thought ! Listen to Mr. >rercief hand- ling the first aul)ject that suddenly comes up, deve- loping a thesis, relating a fact or rendering an account of an tidministrative act I tliere is in what he says something that confounds you — it is the lucidity, the prodigious ease of his languag-'". .Mr. .Mercier seizes XXIV INTRO or( TlOX Ins question from all sides at once Jind cxliausts liis fiul)joct; Mr. Liiurier iiilialc'? at lung draughts tlio o.sscnice. The one exeels in analyzing a theory ; tlie other in generalizing it. The first co-ordinate.-? and symmetrically arranges hi.s arguiueiits, disposes of each olijeetion in its turn and, according to the com- mon saying, does not overlook a pin's worth : once he lias treated a point, he passes on to another, to only revert to it at the conclusion, where the whole constitute 11 formidahle and nearly alway.s victorious line oi' battle. Tlie second attain.? effects equally as jKiwerful by devnting liiniselt' to tiie ileveloijiuent ol' a limited number of leading ]tropi)sitions, whose formula, Avhich he even doe.? not always take the trou})le to give, stands out triumphant and luminous irom Die 8j)eech in its entirety. Mr. Mercicr i)rid)es a question to the bottom ; Mr. I.aurier keeps at a distance from and a sullicicnt height above it to take it in at a single glance. IJoth. however, arrive at the same results by different methods ; they equally imi>ose silence and commanil attention and both enlist tlie admiration of adversaries as well as of friends. The most minute of the two never tires )iis audience, wliile tlie mn«t superficial supplies a com])lete whole, whicli leaves 110 room in the mind for Die slightest doubt or uncer- tainty. I presume that, before prejjaring a speech, Mr. Laurier says to himself : 1 lore are two or three consid- erations which, to my mind, cover the whole debiite ; they should suflice for me and beyond tliem T forbid myself to go. And it is within this magic circle that he shuts himself up with his thouglils T have used the words " before prei)aring his speeches, '' but INTIU)I)l\TIi)N' X X \' tlio fact is that Mr. Lanrier never write:^ liiis ppe eclies ; lie ela1)0rate.s, lie matures the grouiulwork, hut tlie l)rilliant imagery, the!?()nt)rou3 jieriocls. nri' imprd- visations. Few men have loss of the vanity ot the author than he has. T know something of this from having had to collect his sueeches Iiere and there, to the host of my knowledge. When I a.sked his permis- sion to i)ul)lish them, his first impulse was to try to dissuade me from tlie work, fearing tliat no one would purchase it and that T would be a loser, when T already had the certainty of a good sale ,and every one was wanting to suhscrihe. He nevertheless kindly jilaeed ins collection at my disposal, hut it amounted to very little. Not only does ho not keep a co]»y of his own works on the shelves of the lihrary vhere my colleague, Willison, admired such a fine collection of French and English works, the finest, ])erhai)3, he says, in the country ; hut Mr. fiaurier •was (juite astounded to discover, after the lapse of years, iiow ahominabiy he had been translated and hadly reported in the llttiisnrd. T presume that he has never read his own utterances and that, likciill otlier modest men, he judges himself toit severely to look backwards. * *■ The pursuit of a fixed idea absorbs his exii^tence. All statesmen have their fixed idea. Mr. Mercier has his in Provincial politics, as Mr.fiaurier has his in the Federal sphere. This is the imjn'ession which lias been left on my mind by a three months' intimacy ■with his thoughts. His eloquence is !iii endless vafi'iatiou on a single theme. His first puhlii' utter- XXVI IN'moDl'CTIOX nnces wore inspired I>y tho samo sentiiuout uliich still iiiDvus liiiii tit diiy when he ri«o.s to luMrfss his fellow citizens, eitlier from the pulilii' iilatforni or from his seat in Piirlianient, in those iulmirahle haran,i;ue-i whieli rinj; from one end of tho couulry to the other and even to Kuropo. \\U maiden ^speech in tho Fifigislativo Asi^embly in 1>>71 prodn<'ed an extraordinary iiujiresHion, precisely ))ccatise it went to (he heart of the ([Uestion which was heiii<; dis- cussJed. A re-perusal of that speech, in fact, shows that it was more in koepin;;- with tiie tone of the lloii<?o of I'ommon-i. which tho voun"; nuMuher was destined to reacii heforo lon^j;. I hav(? described his method as a synthesis ; I may describe his entire work as a system. Kvery thini; is connected ; his speeches are like thechaptera of a book, the periodsof a demonstration. Ttisthe per- sistent outcry of an honest soul, a f^enerons heart anl a broad mind against the shameful failures of duty, against iniijuity, despotism and injustice, against all that savors of fanaticism and intolerance. The lirst time he raised his eloiiuent voice, it was, as he said himself, to loll his country Iiard truths, and, bn- the twenty years since that he has been speaking, he has not deviated to the extent of hair\sbreadtli from this role of thinker and censor, lie always lays his finger on the sure spot and ol'teu so unexjtectedlyand with so sudden a pressur<' that the sutTerer cannot help emitting aery of pain as well as one of admiration. Now, the diseases of a nation take time to cure, when it is badly governed. Ours has been so badly governed that it has been ailing with the same rheumatism for twenty-live years. Consequently, Mr. F^aurier would INTKODl'rrioN XXVII crciite absolutely tlioHtiniesensation liy takinjr uimguia in 1S9(» tlicHiiiiic tiicsifl w Iiicli lio niaintiiine.l in his lirst Parliamentary spoeeli in ISTl. Why? ik'causc the situation lias not inijn'ovod ; years have; rather ajigrav ated the evil. Ami to-day he would ajrain thrill the House and th(> country Ity repealing; his la;i:nuH words (»1'1S71 : •" U'e are told that we are rich... Sir, there are riches and riches. . TANiAi.r< was liini . He had always before him a table abundantly, sunij)- tuously spread. JJut the misl'ortune was tliat with all this ho was eternally dyin^' of bun^'cr'". Well, this is slill what he has not ceased to repeat in each of his speeches on tho economic condition of the country whenever he refers to the (luestion of com- mercial reciprocity. And it is always as true and as strikin;^- as it was twenty years ajro. His work, of which T have collected tojrether all tiiat I could in this liook, embraces the entire lield of our political, social and national contentions, and yet these six hundred ])agos of stcnograi)hy could be compressed into a handful of formulas,of parent idea", on which Mr f.aurier has already spoken vohnnee without wearyin;,' the attention of his admir(!rs, that is to say, of the entire population. He is above all Canadian in feelinfr ; above all Liberal by instinct and conviction; and aliove all lionest of soul. He has studied history and knows that the hnniiin race has been imj)roved by the crossinjj: of tln' race,-, "without loosing in any case the traces of their origins. H(! knows that nature.whieh is suporior to all other forces^ effects unaided this transfusion of blood, without jiain and without accident. Hi.s dream is to hcc tiie dos- :x.\viii lNTli""ili IK'N ceiidiintfl oftlienoltlcst .stocks ot'tlic nM world, Knuli.-h, French, Scolcli, Irisli, (l\vellin,u; tii;;otlu;r liiiniio- uiotHly ill tlii' country and luurcliini; tii;,rotlior in puiv-suit of tiial iiiitiouiil unity, I'Twhicli all the va- rieties of the human race, iVom the iiurcnt \vhit(^ to tlio (leepobt Muck. have ho hMppily Inuml an example in the AiuericiiM Iie|iul)lic;. I !<' hclievcv-' that this prohlox can only li(! solved here hy union and n )t hy alisorption. The lines which separate us iViUu eaeli other — lanjiuiige and reliuion — should not, in his opinion, divid(Mis. lie considers that lOn^lish is destined to become the lanjiua^je ol' the nnisses in America and French to remain, as in the rest of the world, the lan;,'Uage of the drawin;;-ro()ni and of letters. lie reeoinuiend.s the .study of the two as a (iomplenient, a luxury, of education, and he .sets the example hy Bpeakinjf both with inimitable perfection. As t'or reli;>ious ilisputes, he banishes them from })olitics. (Jallion, pro-consul of Achaia, replied to the Jews of (\)rinth, who wanted to submit tlieir contro- versies to him •• If some injustic*' or crime were in question, it would In- reasonable, Jews, that T should bear you ])aticntly. lUit if the (juestion is one of words, names, and of your law. it is for you to see to it. I do iu»t wish to bo a judge of these kinds of things. '" It is this liberty of the icligious and national groups, this honierule, this self-government w hich .Mr.LiiUrier desires. Tn a word, be believes that it is in the equal- ity of all and not in the subjection of one to anotlier that the solution of the national problem luust bo sought. lie adores liberty, but with reflexion Tt is to lior that he constantly addresses bis sublimest in- iNTr.oiiriTioN X X I X vociitlcins anil it was nf Inr tlmt Iif ^uvc soclcnrn df- linition in lii-» hM'tnn; <il' 1 *>7T tli;it it will renmiii iIm' code III' (':iii:i(liaii i.ilit ralisin He cIuImis to lic'lonu: ti) the Kn^lisli fiilKTiil Sflionl. Wo iuimircs tlu! Uritisli constitution hecauso it (lo<>M not pr 'tend to li.ivo siiid the last word for lih- city, Ititt Iciivc^ the doi lid pen to rcl'oriufl.l l(> in in I'livor of fodcration.s.rcLiardiiiu' thcin an the hcst means to i-'ov- ern men i»f ditlerent oiiirinsand .scattered over a vast extent of country. 'Plie American system spem.s to him, in nu're tliaii one aspect, a model to t'ollow, herau?e thi! line of deniarcation is clearly drawn heiwecn the ])owcrs of the Icfiislatures and of the central }j;ovorn- ment and constitutional conllicts are left to the- de- cision of the judicial jtower. He sees the future from afar. Conl'ederation is not for him the linality of our (hvstinie.s, but a state of transition, and, when the change comes it will be to take a step forward and not backward. He is a homc-rulcr by conviction ; the autonomy of the provinces is for bim an iron rule, a funda- mental i)rinciple, from which it is never allowable to deviate, whatever may be the consequences. TFe is opposed to the Federal ''clo, {oheltcr Imns left to tbe caprice of <;overnments. in a word, to everytbinji which attacks liberty. He belitiveg in i)ublic virtue and practises it. Tn liis honor, lie is not only unassailuible, hut unassailed. Calumny has never dared to ris(! to his beitrht. The worst that malice could ever invent ajrainst him was on one occasion to style him a rhetorician without conviction and without energy. Nothin<r could be more unjust or more false. His XXX INTUODICTIOX uprij^litness proves liis conviction; hi.s intcsiity proves hi.s moral strenfjtli. Tlic mere rhetorician j)laces his elotjuence at the service of every cuuse ; Mr. Lauiier's work is on tlie contrary a .sustained thesis. The man must have an energy of iron to have remained liimself, to liave jirescrvecl his i)ersonality intact amidst the contandnations of i)olitic3, to liave not left a sintjle shred of his reputation on the thorns |)y the waysitle. His greatest adversaries admire and respect him andthat^is saying all tliat need he said. * He never strives to he witty. ]>ut this does not prevent his speeches from bristling with ])rilliant say- ings, repartees and startling apostrophes. On one occasion, he was handling Mr. IVIcKenzie Bowell, but he was doing it, so to say. gingerly ; when the Minister interrupted him with this sardonic re- mark : " Oh, dt)n't hesitate. I have none of those scruides! '' Mr Lanrier simply retorted : — " V\'ell, if you have no scruides, T have ! '' And the House burst into applause. I'arliament will never forget the hearty laugh pro- voked in 1S77 by his repl}' to the late Mr. .Mousseau, who had charged the .Ministers with fattening on the sweat of the people. Pointing with his finger to hia corpulent adversary, Mr.f./aurier exclaimed: " If any one here is fattening on tlie sweat of the people, which is it — he or T ? '" Nor w ill it e\ r forget tlie exclamation : " Too late! Too late! Too late ! "which he thrice used, after exposing tiie causes of the rebellion INTRODUCTION «XXI <tt' ISSo, during tli? debate on Louiri Kiel's excciiticin. Those wore solemn moments. Witnesses of thesceuc state that, between each of t lie orator's pauses, there seemed to be an ago. that a silence of death brooded over the House, broken only by the terrible monosyllables \vhich summed up the whole drama of the insurrec- tion and eacli repetition of which went straiglit to the hearts of the Ministers resi)onsible for those horrors. There was also a moment of indescribablecmotion on the same occasion when the orator, pointing with his linger to the Ministers, exclaimed: " If crin)inaLs are wanted, do not seek them among the dead on the battle Held or the scatFold: they arc here, before us And that striking saying, which elicited the ap- plause of an English audience, in the very capital of Ontario: — '• As long there are French mothers, our language will not die! And that brilliant image ol' the waters of thcOtta- wa and the St Lawrence meeting without mingling at the Island of ]Montreal and forming two parallel cur- rents ])erfectly distinct to the eye: fit emblem of the Canadian nationality. Such elo(iuence commands admiration, and princii)les. presented in such guise, lose their austerity, The more hard truths are told by the orator thus gifted, the greater is the applause, and the more he castigates, the more is he admired. He started out in 1871 with an al'solutoly pessimistic address ; he was raised to the clouds, and it was said: There is a man ! At one bound, he mounted to tlie Federal Cabinet and then to the command in chief of the Liberal forces. H(! hurl- ed the blood of the victims of 1883 into the faces of -v.vxrr ■'I I u r^'Tl.'Oni-CTIO.V "" •>« »ost i.ur„,,rxi';''°'"''»"-v.co„j,;;™» "JiplitiKl liin, „., •, 1"™'i"iis anil tlm P,,,, , . 'Vmpathetic rrarJpr t *. • ^^"^gonthu,siast.s. '"' '^'^^'^ ^'^^^"^ tho cha4e "f ^'J^RIC BARTrrK. ^'''""^'''' '-'^ ^- A. JORDAN.) I :1 ^^^®#^,=^ MR. LAURIER'S FARLIAMEHTARY DEBDT SPEECH ON THE ADDllESS IN REI'LV TO THE SPEPXH FROM THE THPiONE DEI.TVEREI) <1N THE IOtH NOVEMRER, 1871 IN THE LEGlSnATlVK ASSEMBLY OF THE PROVINCE OF QUEBEC Mr. Laurier's Parliamentary career began in 1871. At the general elections ol'that year, which were the second after Conf'eileiation and wiiicli had resulted in maintaining the Chauveau Administration in otllco, he had been returned to lepresent the united counties oi'Drununond and Arthabaska in the Legislative Assembly ot'Quebec, defeating by a majority of 11)00 votes the Mini>terial candiilate, J]r. Hemming, who had held the seat during the lirst Parliament. Entering the House while such men of note as Carrier, C'auchon, Langevln, Jlolton, Fournier, Irvine, 'loly, Lyncli, lUancln't, Kortin. Hobi- tailie, C'assiily and Bachand still lignred on the Provincial scene, the young meml)er for Drnnuuond and Arthabaska. moilestly took his seat on the rear ' (pposition benches, but, his tirst Parliamentary speech, of whieh a translation i^i appendeil. at once lirought him into full piomlniMice: Mil Si'eakeu : The hoiioniblo members, wlio liave proito.-ed tlio adlre.is, liiiye tlrinvn ;i most attractive pieture of tlio situatinii of the country. They liave vied witli each utiier ill efforts to dazzle us witJi \vliat tliey liavehoon pleased to iiomimusly term our wealth, prosjierity 1 SPEEC[I If ' and liappinoss. Tf they are ti> I)e lielievcd, Canada is ii veal land of ('ocayiie. wlicre I'verytliing is lovely and there is nothing left for uh to do hut to return thaidss to I'rovidevci" and to the Ministry. I'ut doi'S this jiieture really ]joitray the trutli ? T, for one. cannot aeeej)! it in that liiilit. All, who hiive .studied tlie situation of the coun- try otherwise tlnin on paper and in the sochision of their nwn honien, who Imve hail the opportunity of ;.i nt'arcr view of our hankward system of agriculture, IV timid and vacillatinu- trade and our hlitrhted oi in dust rv ;n(iw full well that the brilliant imago evoked l>y the hnn. meniher.?, who |)ropo?ed tin; address, is mit the reality, hut a (h'ceptive mirage. Tftlio ])urely political and social aspect of tho situation were the only question. T Wduld accept wdhout reserve all that has heea said liy the h n. nu-mliers. T'lulouhtcflly. our situation, viewed from the n;ercly ])(.litical anil ,»ocial standpoint, is excellent, thanks to the fumhuncntal princii)Ic of our consti- tution — the prinei{)le of free and re])re«entativo government. It is due to this principle that the diverse elements, which comi)o-e our population, have heen enalihMl to unite and form a compact and homogeneous whole, yet leaving to each its character and its autonomy. Certainly, the I'act is one of which we can he justly proud that so many difTcrcnt racfs and so many opposite creeds should tind themselves concentrated on this little corner of earth and that our constitution should [irove hioad cniuigh tu leave them all plenty of ell)0w ro']:), v.itliout friction or danger of collision and v.ith tho fullest latitude to each to Sjieak its ov.n tnuguc, practise its own reli- gion, retain its own customs and enjoy its ei|Ualsliaro of lil>erty and of the light of the sun. r myself have the honor to represent a county in whicii are gioupcd all shades of race and creed and am happy to lie aide to hcisr testimony publicly to this state of things. O.N THK ADDUKsS IN 1.S71 l)Ut there is another Hide to tire situation ; llier( is tlie ECONOMIC f^IDE ami t do not licsitute to say that it seem- io lue dark, very «lavU. indeed. We have hi-en told that we are rich and prosperous. But is this tlie case? (Question all clas.*es of .«ociety, the merchant, the hanker, tiie shop-keeper, the mem- ber of the 1 heral professions, the farmer, the simple mechanic, and among all. without exception, you will lind tiie samr >tory of hard limes, of uneasiness, of sufTering and laii.uuor, denoting that there is some- thing wrong somewliere. It ndght lie almost said ihat this country is placed unchr an immense pneumatic macliine and that it is writiiing and struggling in vain to get to it.s lungs a few particles of an air which is hecoming more a nd 1 nore r'li efi C(l This is the tiutii I This is the true sitMation ! lie is Miml who does not see it, and he is guilty, who, in seeing, doos not admit it. Still, it is being constantly dinned into our cars that we havi' mines, timber, resources of all kinds — that we ar(^ rich, in fact. Sir, there are riches and riches. TAXT.\I.US WAS MCH. He had always an abundantly, a sumptuously served table siiread iicfoie him ; but tiie trouble wm that, in sight of all this abundance, he v. as eternally starving. Our position very mncii resembles tliat of Tan- talus. An i\ifcrnal Iiand seems to be always with drawing our ricli. s wiienever we strive to grasp, them. The man, who found a hag of gold du?t in the desert, con.-idored liimself rich. IhU .'^hoitly aftci- wards, when he was dying of hunger over his treasure, 81'EECir he no doubt uxcliiinied in l)itterness of9i)irit that a 8iiui)le piece of l)re;ul would have l)een pret'eruble, as it woiUd have saved him. We alsii are expiring over our treasures and year after yeav ihe tlood ofthosc who'are h'avinjz' our riches an;' g'»in,^ tn the United States to seek tlie morcel of l)read that will save them goes on steadily increasing. Once luoriN T say, this is the real situatinn. Ood lorliid ! that T should liold the Miinstry alone res- ponsible for it I Tts cause* arc inulti[)le and all of them an; nut under its control. Hut what T Idame the Ministry I'ni- is iiot seeing tlu' situation or, if they see it, for not In'.ving the 'ourage to face it. I was disir)>|)ointed yesterday on hearing the Spf^c'i from the Thr<<ne. His Excellency had done us ths hop ir to summoi- us fjr the flesjiatch of busi- ness; we me, wc Hsien nit li respe(,"tl'ul attention, and welinailiat tliconly Im-i'.'ss wiiich his Excellency invites us to des]iatch is. wlu.t ? to congratulate tiic (Jovernmcnt on the hap])y labors of the List Parlia- ment; and that's all. I^ot one measure proposed ; not one reform suggested. Y«;s, T repeat, T was grievously disappointed: I had exi)ected that th(> Ministry had studied the situa- tion and that it would indicate both the source of the ill and the reaiedv. TME I'UINCIPAI. SOlRCE OV THE EVH. from which we suffer is that thus far that the])i'oductioa of this country is not e;iual to the consumption. Tiie Ministry miglit all the more easily have admitted this, seeing that it does not alone bear the lesponsiliility, "vvhich weighs upon the entire nation. U is a humiliating confession to make that, after tliree centuries of existence, tliis country is still unable to sup])ly its own wants and that it is still obliged to have recocrse to foreign markets, though nature has lavished upon it all the gifts necessary to render it a manufacturing countiy. ON TlIK AI)DHKS3 IN 1S71 5 It is now. Sir. u good many yciirs sineo the fjreiit ]iiitvi()t. wlioiii we recently lo.st, Honorable \j. J. I'ajii- neuii, casting ahout for a remedy for the ills of the time, summed up his policy on the sul)ject in this fiimple precept : •" We should huy nothing from the melroi)olis. '" My o))iniiin is that tliis policy is even more urgent tn-day than it \v;is when lirst f(»rmulated. It is a duty, especially for us Canadians of French origin, to create. A NATIONAI, 1MH>T1{Y We are surrounded liy a strong and vigorous race, who are endowed with a devouring activity and have tal<e«i ])ossess!on of the entire univiTse as their field of labor. Asa French Canadian, Sir, T am pained to see my i)eoi)le eternally excelled by our fellow country- men of Hritish origin. \\'e must I'rankly acknowledge that down to the present we have Ixjen Lett behind in the raci'. We can admit tliis and admit it without sliame, because the fact is ex))lained by purely poli- tical reasons which denote no inferiority on our part. After the con(|uest. the Canadians, desirous of main- taining their national inlieritance intact, fell back upon themselves, and kept np no relations with the outside world. The immediate result of tliis policy was to keep them strangers to the reforms which were constantly taking place beyond their lioundaries and to fata'ly shut them up within the narrow circle of their own old theories. On the other liand. the new blood, which w;is poured into the e(jlony. came frtun tl i(^ most advanced eountrv under the sun in i)oint of trade and industry. They lirongbt with them the civilization of their native land and their strength was ceaselessly renewed by a constant current of immi- "lation. which iidded not onlv to theii' num1)ers, but to their stock of information and their ide We need therefore have no sliame in admitting that wo were beaten l>y such men and under such circuni' stances. SPEKCll ; HI;T TlIK Tl.MKS AHE ('IIAN(iKU and the hour lias struck to entor tlio lists with them. Our r«^8i»ective furel'iitliers wore enoniics aiul waged bh)t)(ly war against each other for centuries. ]>ut we, tlioir descemhints. united uncU'r the sanic! Hag. tiglit no other figiits l>ut tliose of a generous emuhition to excel each other in trade and industry, in the sciences and the arts of jjcace. T hav(; already stated that the (iovernnient of tlie Province of Quc.'Ixh' is not alone resjionsihle fi»r iha stagnation of our industry. It is sutlicient to sav that alone it -^iin neither create nor develoj) it, l)ut it can contribute ])Owerfully thereto. nv Till-: KIM> u|- IMMI(;UATION which it introduces into tlie country. Thus far it seems to nic that the (iovernmeiit has been moving in the wrong flirection. Tlie (Iovernnient has devoted itself to recruiting an exclusively agricultural immi- gration — its efforts will end in nothing. Tlie agricul- tural poitulation of this country will never he increas- ed fi'om outside. Our (;limate is too severe anil the divi'lopment of our hinds too costly and iliilicult. The ciiildren of the soil will not he deterred by these obstacles ; but the stranger will simply pass tjirough our territory and locate on tln^ rich prairies of the west. Moreover, wherever our 'igents set their foot, they find themselves forestalled by American agents, by American books and jiamphlets, and, above all, by American prestige. We ciui, however, introduce here with good results, T think. AN IN'OrslUlAi. IM.MUJRATION. 1 do not mean simple workmen, but master mechan- ics and small cajntalists such as are to l)e found in all the cities of EiU'ope. The induccnuMit. which ON TIIK ADDRESS IN 1871 Avould lead them to invt^t their lal)or iind their caiiital in our inidst 1:^ that wn cjiii pmduci! 2') pev vcni clieaiHT than iiny other part of tlio Anicrican conti- nent — what we need is the master-miners of Wales and the nitrth of Kn^land, the meehanles of Alsace, tlie Fiemls'i weavers and the (Jernian artisans of all kinds. Sncli an iminifi'rat'cn. it seems to me, would give an extraordinary impulse to our industry. Tn addition to this purely economic (|uestion, tliere are political rei'orms which we hoped to have seen announce<l in the Speecli from the Tiivone. Aiiionj; l!ies(^ ret'orms. there ar(! two. which liaveheen urgently demanded hy puhlic ojjinion for a longtime past, in our election law and in education. oil; Ki.Kc rioN i..\w is deploraMy heliiiid that of the other pri)vince=! and even of the l)()minion. I'ulilic opinion has long dcmand<'(l a law modelled on that of Ontario, where the elections are all iield on the same day. Onr law has opened the door to lamentahle ahuses and to tlie dir(>ct intervention ofthe ( ioverncmeni in tlie exercise of tlie i)oi)ular riuU'rage. At t he last elections, the ( lov- ernment was tlius enahletl to lirst issue the writs for .such of the counties as it con-idered sale, and af.er- wards. thanks to this tactic, to hiing all its strenglii to i]]o asistance of its friends whom it deemed in danger. Huch comluct is an ahnsc. Ifw(> are a iVce peoide, the jiopnlar suffrage must he I'reely (werc'.sed and tlie exact ex])re5sion o;'tho ()opular will niu-t liesccnred. 1 shall only refer iiu'identally to ihc (jnestion of Klin A Tn P.N, upon w liich wc have h(>en long an] are still waitinix for the I'remier's acti on. When the lion. I'reiiiiei- assumed the reins of power in lS(i7, he had hoenfor twelve ye:ir-i Supcrin- tcnd«'nt of Education and had just returned from a wmma 8 SPEFCir trip to l''uro|)0 uiulortakcn lor the ('Xprcss iiurpftHc of studying on tlio Hput the difrcrcnt ccluciitional sys- tems of tlie Old World. Ft was our hope that, on his return, he would hiive cndiodicd in loirishition tiio results of his oh.servations ami experience. I>ut for the last four years like twister Aiuie on the tower top, Ave have hcPii lookinji; I'nr si»inetliinj; to mnie. hut it Jijis not yet a]»peare(l. 1 have heard it saiJ elsuhero : " IJut wluit is tJie good of these reforms ? \\'\\[ they increase the puldic; Avealth ? Will they eiihunee in the slijfhtest dcirree the prosjierity oi' the country ? "' Hir, in a free state, every thinjr is connected and linked topetiier JruMslation. trade, industi'v, arts scii-nces and Icttcr.s, nil arc memher.s of a same hody, the ixxly social. A\'hen one of the menihers sufftrs, the entire hody is utfected ; when there is an abuse any wh(>re, the entire l.iod}' social is more or less paraly/ed ; when there is unywhere something left undone which should he done, the normal order is therehy disturhed. England has become great hccause nhe has thoroughly understood this itrineiole. No tiuestiou there luis ever been allowed to languish. Nit sooner lias an ahu.se lieen noted and a I'cform demanded, than the (iovernement ol'the day. whatever it niiirht be, ^\'hig or Tory, has at once given the subject atten- tion and taken the initiative, never droj)ping it until the aliu.se has been destroyed and the reform accom- plished. A\'e,on the contiary,only knowjhow to pander to unv own prejudices and our self-love; we never hav(? the courage to admit that we are not }ierfect or that there is anything we should do. 1 grant. Sir, that, underyling this conduct, there may be a tliought or rather an excess of patriotic iifTection. but this is I'ar from lieing a proper patrio- tism and it is certainly not mine. My patriotism consists r.'ither in telling my country hard truths, •whic]) will help to arouse it from its lethargy arid to direct it at last into the path of true progress and t lue l)rosperity. i of lis iio 'or 'P, it lio lie «', er ••» li. is ro i» )e IS n r ABOLITION OF DUAL REPRESENTATION Ml!. LAlinKKSSi'J'lKCil ON TIlAi' (iUKSTION 7)KI.IVKKKI> f'.N THK 2ItII NoVKM HKH, lS7l IN Til/': Li'jGfsLA'nii': assumuly of the PROVINCE OF (HJIiliFC 111 the oaily (lays ol' llio scs-ioii of 187 I, the evil ol dual lejire.seiitation. now i'ull>- rfco^jiii/cd and adiiiitti'd i^y hot ii parties, was a^aiii made tlie siil'jet't of attadi li\ the ( >i)i)Osi- lion in tlie (iueheo L<\i.'islatiii'e. lion, I', (r. Marchand, then and still nieiulx r lor St. .lolm's. hroujrht in a hill to aholi>h it, wliieh the < loviMnmi'iit ol the day onlv .sueeeedod in ,!.'<ttin<i rejected Itv the narrow maiority o!' 5 votes — the <livi>inn hcin;; o4 to 2'.l. Mr. ham ier tool; part in this ineiiiorahle d(d)ate, once more winnin;.' tren'M.d adiuir.ition lor his uiaoeful elo- quence and conii'ihutiii.i.' in no sli<:ht dejiree liy liis elose and powerl'ul i<>asoiunv' to hasten the aholition, which took place not long afterwards, of a system fraught with the greatest danger to thehest intero.stsi of the Province. Even l.'Erax''- ■nnnl, then a, Con.iervativc organ, was forceil to ailniit iie.xt dav that Mr. l.anrier's elfort on this occ;isii)n was r emarKa >1. )tU m form and sidistanee and superior eviii to !iis ntte ranee on the Addi It b th!lt ;>eec h. of w reproduce a tr.iiislation iieli we now pro|)o.«e to Mk M'k.\m:i Thf line (ifciiiKhict adnptcd l>y (lie (ioveriuiicut oil tliis ([Ucstioii fully warnmts the reproadi I jidilros.s-cd til it imt long; .since, (d' hoing afriiid to ItU'O the sitttiitioii ol'tlie countr}- squarely 10 SPEEcir Tfto-diiy I roitiM'iito (liiit ifproiirli, it is not be- Civuse T 111)1 acluatfd I>y any liostih' Icrling (oward? tlio (lOVt'nmHMit. nor is it liecaiisc I wIhIi t<> oftt'i' it a gyatoinatif and unfair opposition ; l)ut liccauso I cannot \o<o. si<rlit of tin' fact tliiit T lif'r(> form part of tli(! ]icopI(''s jury iind tiiat, on every (piestion tlmt comes up. it is my duty to render a consciencious verdict re:iiirdless of person or party. If to-day T reitprate that reproach, it is hecausc it U impossihh' for nie to he satisiicd uitli the (Jovern- nient's policy on this ociasiini, and I helieve that it is eijually inipossihle for all, who rise ahove party considerations, to he satislied witii a I'OMCV oi- UKTliKNi K AMi IM;ni |! Asl'INArtON i, I which evades and does n.)t solve tlu^ questions ol'the hour. \\'liat F expected ami iiad a rii;ht to i-xpcct from the (Jovcrnment, Sir. wa~ not that it .^houhl siiare my opinion hut that it shouhl hav<> an opinion of its own on this (pic-ti<iu. I'ufort nnately, it has none. Tlu! hull. I'remier tohl us that tiiis is the ninth time lie has discussed this (iuositi(»n hotli here ;nid at Ottawa. T!iis isfpiitc true and yet thus far we havu not heen ahle to learn wliat the rrendei' tinnk-^ of the principle laid down hy the hill of tlic lion, memher from St. J(dni's. T repeat. Sir. thai we iiad a, rij;-ht to look I'or somethinif diircrenl i'roui the (lovernment. Here we hive a question oi' const ilulional law of tilt' higJM'St importance, a (piestion intimately con- nected witii the workinii' of our political system, demandin<i; solution. The (iovernment is asked to declare whether tln' priuciph' emhodied in the hill is ri^dit and. if .so, to iulopt it or to declare whctiier it is false and in that case to reject it, Iml what does the ( oivernment do ? Neither th(^ one ikm' the other. Tt washes its Ininds of the (juestion and leaves it to the peo))le. Tiie only reason given by the hon. Premiei' I'or ON DIAI, KKI'KKXKNTATIOX 11 not luloptirifr tlio iiM'iisur(! in tliat it uo\ilrl bo an I'lUTojicliiiient oil tJie fl(.'ct<iral lilicrtics of the people I am uHtonli'Iird, Sir, iit eo jiiucli coiHlcficonsion for tlie iiuijeHty ol'tlic people in n Conservative (iovern- meiit, which has always made sueh a jiarade oflts {\tMserv!itiv<* principles in the press and on the hus- tings. To leave the apjilication of the nio-'t deli(;ate (luestions of constitutional law ctemally oitcn to the liuctuntions. uiululatidiis and caprices ol' public opi' iiion is hardly to my mind a Conservative principle. Neither is it a Liberal i)rinciple. I am inclined rather to consider it as a subversive principle Irau-^lit with (Hpai>pnintnients and daiijicrs, the entire l)tarin}^ of uhich has not been ealculate(l. It is undoub'edly commendable to;issert, to pro- elaim, to defend the rijihts and prero^Mtives ofthe p(>opl(! ; and, on this ])oint I yidd to no one, as there IS nobody in this Hous(( u Im has a ileeper rospeet than 1 have for the ri;.dits and prcro;^atives ol' tlie people or who reuards it more as a duly to jea]<!i9ly Wilt h and protect the sacred tru-t. But. amonix those ri<j;ht>^ and pr(>r<i,natives, I do not recouni/.e tlic privilege to brinjj, forever into (pies- tion the principles which are the lo<:icai and natural ('onse(iueiice of our constitution. These i(rincii)le3 111 lie kept safe are sacred an 1 invi(dal ind liouli from ihe «torms of our daily political lift ■riiK I inKUTv Ol Tin: j'Eoi it: is not unliounded ; its natural bouiidaiies are the rights of society. K man were a ]ierfect beinu'. it' bis notions of right and wroni;' were always so clear and so luminous tlnit all aberration on his part was in Sir, T should say : leave to the |i : possible, then, eople absolute liberty; allow them, without laying down any rule for them, to choose for tbemselve-. in each isolated case, the princijjle.? that should ^uide tliei)' conduct : 12 -r£K(i[ ■Jl; ill in line, umler such <ii'cuiiist;inco-!, leave tliein jior- J'ectly free til elect tlieir repri'seutatives as they |ilo;:.^o, Avithout phiciuji any restiictioa on their choice. r.ut, if such were the case, if sucli weretlie h:i])py conilitiuu (if liuniauity. we would have no neeil eitiier of constitution or of laws. I'\)r. w Iiy iiave we a constitution'.'' WHY u.wl; wi-; i.,vws? rrecisely. to ileterniine tlie princiiiles wliicli the people siiould follnw in the exercise of their ri,i;lits — to lix on the one haml the extent uf the vi^ihts of tiie peoi'le antl, on the other, tlie extent of the ri.^'hts of S()ci«. y. \\'heri a people acce|it a constitution, they niaice the sacritice of a portion of their lilierty, a generous sacritiee by which each one gives up something belonginii; to himself indiviilually for the hcnetit and security ol' the wlnilc. When a peojile acce])t a constitution, they trace out themselves the circle which they assiiiu to their liberties; they say to themselves in a sense: thi.s spac(! belongs to me: liei'e I can speak, think, act ; I <iwe no acctiunt nl' my wor^ls. my thoughts, my acts to any one exceiit to my own con.-cicnce and to fJod ; but, as regards society, here begins its domain and ends mine and I shall not go further. Still, like all human works, constitutions are not ])erfe(!t. New horizons, which wcic not before per- ceived, are con-tantly opening up ;ind unsusjiccted abuses are discovercil. It is then mt: III TV ov THE i.Eoisi.ATiRi'; to sto)) in and to enlartie or contract. ac'Crding to needs and cir cuinslances, the circle within which tho institutiiins oi'tlu- country niove. To-day. the meinher for St .Tobn's points out one of these abuser. Tin- menibei i<>i St John's iudicute.-i (iN DCAT, i!i:riu:si:.\TATio.v lo as an abuse the eligiliility to thi^^ House of lueiiihers of tlie Federal T.egif-lature. He cnnteiuls that tliis riglit iii eligiliility i-j a ilagrant conlradictioii. AN ANOMALY, as regards tin great i)rineiple ol'our conHtitiitinii, the federative principle ; he contends that from this ano- maly, thi.s contradictioi), may spring grave eonipli- catioiis, real danger.s, whicii should lie preveiite'd, if Ave do not want to liave to suppress thoni later on. The Ministry, on the other hand, seems to make it a scru])!" to tiiuch. even hy a hair's hreadth. what it eom])laisaiitly terms the lilierty (d'tiie people. Th(! Ministry forgets thct tliere are ])rin- ciples of eternal and immutahle truth that a people can never he permitted to violate with impunity ; it forgets that it appertains to principles less striUing, less evident, perhaps, l)ut n<<t less certain, which are the logical consequenee of our adopted form of gov- ernment aufl which shouhl he ei|Ually satred ; it forgets, in tine, that the freedom ol' election mu.^t bo necessarily limited in certain points and that a people cannot he permitted to choose its representatives from among all classes of citizens. As it is, there are several classes of citizens, who are, hy law. iNKi.n;ini.E; for one. I need only mention the judges. Will the Ministry pretend that the people, if they took the fancy, would l)e free to send a judge to sit in this House? No; it is a principle admitted hy all civilized nations that the man chargerl with the administration of justice, cnlm and dispassionate justice, should not be mixed up with the storm? o| political lil'e. The memlier for St John's asserts as an equally certain piinciple that tht^ entry to thi> House sliould bo forbidden to memliers ol' the Federal Legislature I 14 SPEECH AS IT IS 'I'O TIIK ,III)i;ES. i 11 11 Tliis, Sir. is tlie (luestinn to lie clccidcd. It will nut do to ivnswor it liy dilator v t'Xcei)tioiis, as the (Joveriinient is dointr. Fi, tu-inorrow. a luoiulier were to rise and propo-c tliat the judges slioiild lie oligihle, whnt would the (iovornmeiil do? Would it say, as it is sayinji; to day : Wo do not wish to touch tho liherty of the peiiplf. I sliall carry the hvi)oth<'si3 further: There is to day in the Inited Slates a nund)er of puhlic writers who claitn for the lair sex what tliey term the privilrnrx uud what T siuillcail the hurthcns oftiie tlie well the ULcly sex ; who claim lor the iro))ir:i not oidy the I'i^ht to vote, tho right of eligihility, the right not only to send ni( mbers to Parliament. l>ut. to sit in it tiiemsdves. Sir, we are a colony of England anrl we are also neighliors of the United States ; it does not need so much to make it probable that sooner or later these theories of femi- nine emancii)ation will penetrate into our own nudst. If then some niemlier, inciteil l)y an excess of radi- calism or gallantry, (extremes meet), were to rise and move to throw ojx'n to women the doors of this House, T (U) not .'jican the doors of tho galleries but the doors of the (iuehec Letiishiture itself, what would the (iovernment do if it was still in power? Would it say as it says to day : we do not wish to touch the liberty of the jteople? Would it say: if the i)eo[il(.' choose to send us female colleagues, we accept them? The chivalrous feelings of the Ministry are well known to me. Sii-, but 1 also Unow their Conservative principles. Now. between their feelings and their principles, which would carry the day ? No answer is needed. The Ministry would not hesitate to limit on this point that liberty of the people for which it to- day professes to have siirh a tremendously hiich r>^spect. Well, the attitude which the .Ministry would take on that occasion, let them take it to-day. If the principle laid down in the bill is right, let them say So and accept it : if it is wrong, let them say so and reject it; but let thun not in tlie name of liberty ?l ON DtAI, llEPKESENTATION lo TliY TO KI.IKl': Till-; >-ni ATlnN I am a friend to lil>t'rt_v. l)Ut wiili me liln-'-tydoes not mean license. A free people \a not one without laws or clioeks ; a free people is one anioiii;- whom all the attributes, ail tlie rijjrlit:^ of the nieniliers of the State are clearly (le(ine(l and (hterininod and anionjf )on . I rii i.»,i. I'll * * an ilioni there is no encroachnicnt of one power iij other. That i.s the Irnr iihcrly. Once more, f ask. is the principle hiid down in the hill of the honorable nieinhfr for St John's ri<i;ht or i8 it not? T. for one. do not hesitate to say that Avhat we iire jiiireed to term du.nl representation, the double miin(!'ite. is altojiether inmutpatililc iciih the priiiciplr of ir roiistitiitioi), with the I'edcn'ative prin- cijile. A conO.'deration is a Imndle of st.ites, nhicii have a comn ur.iitv of "encral interests, hut widch ha ve nerertheless towards e;ich othei' local interests dis- tinct and separate. For all tiieir common interests and cotimoii ■wants, these states have a common le,i;islature, the Federal L«"gislature. hut for all their local interests, they have each a local and separate leiiislature. Within the respective domains of their aUriltutes, the letiislatures. a3 well 1-ocal as FciU'ral, are sove- reign and independent of each other. Now, in order that the federative system may not be an empty term, in order that in may yield the results it is ex[»ectcd to produce, t!H> le,i;ishiturc3 must be IXDKPKNOKNT oK EACH oriiKU not only in l;iw. but in fact: tin: Local Lcuisl.-ituro especially must be completely prntcctf^il aiiainst all control by the Federal LcLiislature. If. immediately or I'emotely, the Federal I/.',!.Mslatu;c exercises the slightest control over the Local fiCLi'isl.'nuii'. then yiui liavc no longer a federative u'lioii ; hut a legislative .4 pii ; 16 .S1'EE*1I iiniom under ;i fedovfitive lorni. Tl" you throw open tlio doors of this House, to the inomhors of the Federal f^c^islature you jidmit hy the very fact tlie contr(d oftliis House l)y the Federal Legislature and tlieri, as I have said, you destroy the federative iiiiicn. of wliich, it is (rue. you may retain the form, but have no lonirer the suhstance. The tliini,% more- over, is easily explained. l)y the very fact that we are an independent state, forming ])art of another independent state, we are hound to have business relations with that state. Such, Sir, is the condition of human things that, wherever there are business relations, theie are also conflicts and t;0.MI'l.|i:ATI0.NS OF I.NTEKKSTS. We cannot escape the common fate. A day will come w'hen these conflicts, these complications of in- terests, will .irisc between the CJovernment of Quebec and the Federal (lovernment. Naturally, the Federal Legislature will side with the Federal ( ii)vernment and the Local r^egislaturo with the Local (lovernment. If, under these circumstances, you open tiie doors (»f this House to the mend)er3 of the Federal I>egislature, will you not. hy this tact alone, introduce into this Hou-je an element necessarily hostile to the pro- vince and necessarily l)ound to take sides against it ? Do you think that, in entering this House, the Fe e- ral members will cease to be Federal members? Do you imagine that, on entering here. th(\v will leave behind them at the thresboUl their interests and their sentiments? Do you believe that after pleading Ottawa's case at Ottawa, they will plead Ciuebec's case at (Quebec? Do you tiiiidc that they will burn here what they adored at Ottawa and that they will adore here what they burned at Ottawa ? Mistake! mistake! the Federal members will remain Federal memlicrs, if it be true that no man cau serve two masters ; they will plead Ottawa's cause ox DVAI, REPRESENTATION 17 at Queltec iigainst Quebec .and tliey will support their iirguments with nil the weight of their intluence. Arxl then wluit will be Quebec's fate ? Quebec's late will be THE KATE OF THE EARTHEN I'OT which, one day, took it into its head to travel in (com- pany with the iron pot : (iuehec will be cru.«hed. What I have just stated, Sir, is not mere hyjjo- thesis. I support iny argument with the authority of the honorable member for Montmorency, member for I^fontmorency at Quebec and President of the Senate at Ottawa. No later than in the debate on the arl)itration, the honorable meml)er for Montmorency (Mr Cau- chon) — if I rememl)er his words rightly — said, in defending the conduct of the honorable Premier, that the same member may have certain duties at Quebec and others at Ottawa on the same question. These words, Sir, are striclj- true and, from this very moment, is not the question decided? What? Are we going to expose the same man to the necessity of speaking and acting in self-contradiction according as he sits AT QUEBEC OR AT OTTAWA? I will go further and, by this same question of the arbitration, show the disastrous results which the double mandate might produce. The debate on the arbitration has brought out this fact -that both sides of the Tfouse are agreed in looking upon the decision of the Provincial arbi- trators as a glaring iniquity and that we must at all costs extricate ourselves from the position in whidi tliat decisi(m involves us. Whore we differ is only upon the means to be taken to get out of that }>csition. Fortunately for us, the Federal (Jovornmont has sus- pended the execution of the sentence. T fancy. Sir, that it was not without diilicultv and without hesi- 2 , ' - I ♦', f Mi p 4 ! .11 ! 11 ;■ 18 SPEECH tatii'u lluit the Fedovjil (iovernment came to the cim- clu.siou ti) sidopt this line of conduct. I will .sui)i)i).se (which hy the way is alto^iiether iiiipossilile) that the Federal (loverniiient, either I'roiii I'efir ot" ])ntiing the ('onledevation in dan<fci' hy acting otlierwise or fur luiy other reason, had eh^eted to enforce tiie sentence, there would have; heeii an iinnieiise cry of indignation iVoni the entire province of (iueliec. t have no douht that the (iovernment of Quehec would have not <lelayed an instant in casting ahout for noean.s to deliver us fri>m the iniquitous sentence. T am satis- lied that it would have immediately called the Legis- lature together to suhniit some pro])osal on the suhject. Sir, I see in the House two members of the Federal (iovernment. What would they have done then? Would they have repudiated Avhat they ha:l approved at Ottawa? Would they have said at Quehec : do not execute the sentence, after having Paid at Ottawa: execute it? Alas! it is certain that they could not have acted (itherwise than consis- tently with themselves; they could not have helped using the hame language here as at Ottawa and ^vhat they would have said to us here would have heen in .«uhstance and without amhiguity : Suhmit ! SrmilT TO THE l.Nlgl ITV ! and do you think that these words would have been empty. 6ir, each one can think oi'them as he pleases, but my firm conviction ic^ that their influence would have been all powerful and that Quebec's interests would have been sacrificed without pity to save the intevests of the Federal Ministers. I)Ut this is not all. The honorable inend>er for TiOtbinicre, (Mr. Joly) stated only a short time since, in the course of the deliate on the address, that if the legislative form was not adopted at the time of the \inion of the Th'itish colonies, it was on account of the particular situatinn and ON niAI. ni:i'IlK.--K\TATI()X 19 THE EXCEI'TluNAl, INTEUEST.S OK QIEI'.EC. Tlu'se vords wore not contradicted and they could not, ii8 it is .1 luHtorical I'act tliat the iVderativu form was only achipted to prchcrvc ibr (iuohee tlic cxceit- tional and iinitfuc ])osition which it occupied on tho Anu'vican continent. That position, Bir. T am anxious to maintain intact anil J say with tlie poet ;Mciti vriii' n'c'-it |>:is trr.iiul. mi.is jc Imis dims innii vrrre. (My tflas.> i> not Ijjl', Imt 1 drink lidiii my uhiss) Witli tlie siujile mandate, I have the guarantee that Quehec"s riglits and privileges will be preserved and resjiected and that its j)osition will l>e maintained ; ■while, with the double mandate, those rights and privileges seem to me to be in perpetual danger. ]>astly, ;■ ir, I shall speak my whole nund : with the single mandate, (Quebec is Quebec; with the double mandate, it only becomes an appendix to Ottawa. j,;i .'! :i III LOUIS BIEL IN THE COMMONS I'LKA AdAINST II IS KXITLSION FllOMTIIE llOl'SK ( ffOfJSE OF COMJIOXS) siTTLMi UK Till-: 15tii apuii,, 1 ^74 Rctiirnod for riovencher :n Oetoljer, IS73, Lnuis Riol had been re-elected for the siuue county at the .i;eiieral chH'tions 1)T whioli tlie Macken/ic A<hniiii.stratii)n wti'o niaintained in ollicti after Sir.Iohn A Macilouald's re.sij;nation O'X tlie I'acifie S(;anilah 'I'lie presence of tlie Metis leader in the Federal capital, the audaeity ^v■hich he had displayed in presenting hiniseir before the Clerk of the House to bo sworn in as a iueniber and the uncertainty as to whether he would take liis .-fat 01' be arrested, all combined to create and extraordinary <legree of excitement. Nevertlieless the entire point at- issue summed itself uj) in the ipK'stion : had !i9 been amnes tied? On tlie '.Ith .March, bSTH, .Mgr Taclie. on the part of lioth the Feileral anil Imperial lioverninents, promised pardon to Kiel in partvuUar and had given him the assurance of a com- ])lete amnesty, cov<'ring the murder of I'liomas .'^cott, and, on the 17th .June of the same year, father liitchot. .Fudge ^ihick and ^[r Seott assured Mgr Taclie that a full and entire amiies- ty had l>een promise I by the (ioveriior (ieiieral and by Sir Clinton Miu'doch in Her MasjestyV nami' ; whih^ on the iL'th .lulv Sir (ieoi'ge Htieniie ('artier wri,iti' to Mgr'l'aehe tocontirm the promise of an amnesty. In ls7(, ih,. jlou^e of Commons found Itself cniifionted with tliiec motions: one iiy Mr McKen/ie Bowell, demanding the inunediate expulsion of the uiemlier lor I'rovencher; tiie second, by tii<' late Mr Ifolton, proposing to defer any decision until the Conunittee hail ie]>orted on the existence of a promise of aiuiiesty, and the thiid by tlie late Mr ^Monsseau. giaiitiiiL' tle^ amnesty then and there. Mr Laurier declaved in favoi i>l the Iloltou amendment : 22 srF:K«ii l»i( ' ( i i i ^' i Mli SrKAKEtt Altlioujrli this debate lias l)oen )ir(il«infred beyond tbc limits of liuinan patienoo, I sbiill noveitbele.sw take tbe liberty ol"i)uttin<;tlM! indulgenfODrtlie IFouae to the test. At first, it was not n»y intention to take ]iart in tlii«» discussion, but it has taken such an unexjiec^ted turn that it seems to me tbat I would not properly do my duty towards myself and towards my eonstituents if T contented myself with givinji- a silent vote. 1 have listened, Sir, with the greatest attention to all the arguments which have lieen a<lvanced in support of the main motion, and. although some of these arguments have been urged by men whoso opinion T gieatly respect, T must frankly admit that T have found it impossible to be convinced by them : I have not been convinced that, at the )K)int readieil by the proccetlings taken against the mcnii)((r for I'rov- cneher (Mr Hiel) and witli all that has been jiroved thus far against liim. we would be justified or have tlie right to expel him. Tlieconclusion to whicli.in my opinion, the House should come is that, tliere have been too many facts raked out of oldivion and laid to the charge of the member for I'ruvencher to permit of bis being al)- solved: it is not the less true tli;il too niany other i'acts havclieen overlooked to warrant his expul-^ion. Which means to say tbi.t 1 shall vote I'or the aiiKMid- in<'nt uf the iionoraide nicmlicr for (hateauguay .(.Mr llolton) the wise ;iinenilnicnt which has been su))- portetl with so much skill. elo(|Uenee and gallantry by the honoral.de nicmiicr fur South < hitario ( Mr. Came- ron). !)Ut. before going futber. T must apoloui/c to tho TTouse for using a language witli which lam o)dy imperfectly ac(piainled ; really. T should claim a com- ])lete amnesty, because \ know only tixi suri'ly th.at, in the course of the few remarks I wish to make, I shall frcipiently murdci' the (iueeifs Knglisli. I am perfectly conscious of ihe disngroalde task ON LOiiiH Kiel's emtlsion O't \\lii(h I linpuse on the House nlion f force it to li.-toi» ton man ao unl'iiniiliur with the hm^^Uiigehc uses, hut T can assure you thtit it" it i.s a task for the lluuso, it is nnu'Ii more (liHajrrePultlo lor niysell'. I um so con- vim-ed. so thoroughly convinccMl, that tiin adoption of the honorable nieniher for ('hatoau;,'uay'.s aniend- nient is tlie only course that the I louse should pursue that T consider tiiat T would Ite j^'uilty of jin act of cowardice if, for any motive whatever, I allowed myself to be turned away from the defence of the ojlinions which T regard as the soundest and safest on this subject. As T have already stated, T would not liave had the presumption to take i)art in this deljate. hut I think that I am warranted in iritcrvoninj;. because it seems that the true (juestion before the House has n ot been treated. Many secondary consideratioi 13 hnvt." lieen raised. Itut the real ijuestion has not been touched. The <iuesti(in has been treated as if the facts on nliich the main motion is based had been proven and ])roven Ix^ynng all donlit. Now, T maintain that the facts alh\L;(^d in the tnotion iiave not liron established in a way to warrant tliis Ifousc in voting the expul- sion. 1 (h iri' t(i state at uncc that I have no side taken on the (juestion now licfore us against the meml)er for I'rovi'ncher, I have not the slightest prevention am 1, on the other hand, 1 liav(> no preilis])o::;iti (HI ihatevcr in his favor, Thavenevir spoken to him; I have never seen hini ; T have never had any relations with him either diri'ctly or imiirectly. He belongs to no puHtieal party and between him and me there is lio bond of sympathy : T am as impartial as if T was in the jury box. And we should all art as if we weri'jurors. iiecauso the functions we exercise at this moment are judicial fun<'tions. Tt is (juite true; that the object in view is to protect the lionor anil puiity of this House: l)ut it is cfjually true that the etVect might be to deprive 24 .si'EEcir li i «>iu> of our fellow citi/cns oi" wliat rijihtfuUy liolonps to liini, to .strip tlio niciiilier for I'rovondier of liis title aiul privileges us ii inemlier of tliis House, iuul to rob the county of I'roveiiclier of tlie services of the nmn whom it has ehoson aa its reprepeiitative. [ Jiiaintain that wc! are excereisinij; judicial funetions and, witliout goinu; forther, f base this opinion on the •words uttered l)y Fiord (irauville in tiie iCnglish House of I'onunonH in 1807. A aiinilar case to tliis one was in ([ueation. find tlie opinion referred to was later on quoted approvinj^ly by the Attorney (Jeneral for Ireland in tlie celebrated Saddlier affair alreaily ?o many times cited in the course of this debute. ilere is what lie said : AVe are now acting' in our judicial cupacity ami wo are consequently ol)ligo(l to base the Judjinicnt wn me uliout to render not on our desires or preposso^sionw, luit on spccilic laots allcfit'd and proved according to tiie ordinary rules f)f our pioecduie. This Opinion of Lord (Iranville's, ci>rroborated and a])proved as it was by the Attorney (ieneral for Ireland, in the Saddlier affair, gives us the true basis on which we should regulate our decisions and con- firms in a conclusive manner my contention that we are exercising judicial functions and that we should I'd low THE RULES OK .IfDICIAL I'KOOK. This point being established beyond all doubt, let us (examine the facta that have been alleged antl those that have been proven : The honorable member for North Hastings (Mr ]'>owell) has liased his motion on three facts. He as- serts : 1° That Louis Riel, member for Provcncber, Avas indicted before the Court of (Queen's Lench for ^Manitoba, in the month of November last, for the murder of Thomas Scott and that a //(^f b>lt was re- turned against him ; 2 ^ That thercuiion a warrant : i OS I.Ol'l.S KII'.I, KXl'n.MiiN 25 wan iPMued for liism-rest. Imt Hint, since tluit time, lio lina HysteMiifttic'iilly eluded justice iiinl lluit he is con- sequently contunnicious ; .'1 - Tliiit lie disolicyeil the order oi' this llnusc. ctMiiniiindiiig him to njiiiciir in his seat on the day lixed I ciintei^t the hoiiorahle nicnihijr for North llast- iuft's first assertion and I ;i:aintain that there is not a siiadow of piool' that an indictment was laid a;:r.inst the inendier for I'rovenelier and that a Iriir h'.il wiia returned a;4ainst him ; I mean to say that there does not exist tlie slightest judicial proof which would jus- tify tills House in taking action. There was only one way to |ifove this precise fact — it was hy producing the iiiilictinriit, hut nothing of the sort has been done. Singular to say, too — in the evidence given l)y the Attorney (ieneral of Manitoha, — there is not «ne word to prove that an iiidiclinnit was returned against the mcnd)cr for I'rovenelier. T will take the lil)erty of referring the liouseto the eviden((! of the Attorney (ieneral, at ])age 1(1 of the Votes and I'roceedings : (iiKsrni.N : — Did an indictment of l.ouis Kiel take place hefore the Court of Queen's iiench, in Mani- toba ? Answku: — At the cvlra teini of the Court of (iucf'n'fl J5eneh for Manitoha, in Novendjer last, Louis Kiel was indicted. And that's all. There is not a word to indicate that a 'rii/' bill was returned. If I make this remark, it is not because T attach any great iuj])ortance to tliis omission, for. from my point of view, the indictment could not lie proven except by the judduction of the document itself or of a certilicd copy of it. T have made this remark for the sole purpose of sbowiug how weak is tlie jiroof, even from the most ralde point ol view 3 regards the nioti on. ];ut ill be said, i»erha])s, tbat we have ample proof ; a /r?/r />/// Avas returned, in the warrant which - issucil against Mr. lliel and wliicli has been pro- uiiced. This argument cannot, he accciited. 1 will remind the House once more that we are exercising judicial functions and that we should bo fl 26 SPEECH '1 ' i J- ,1 guided entirely by the lules of judicial prouf. Is the rule admitted by Lord (iranville when the ques- tion was to deprive m. man of liis property not just enough that we should obscure it in the present case ? Wherefore I again insist on the necessity, tlie absolute necessity, of deciding this (luestion accor ding to the rules of judicial proof and not other- wise. The first of these rules is that, when the best proof can be furnished, secondary evidence 19 NEVEK AltMITTEf). Now, T note that this princii)le, which T luave just laid <lown lias been admitted and recognized by the honorable member for North-Hastings liimself. In fact why did ])e bring the Attorney (ieiioral of JJanit()i>a 1o the bar of the House? f^imply, to get ollicial judicial proof regarding the ciiarges whicli he has laade against the member for r rove ncl WW It was noi t" liriiig any new facts to the know- ledge of the members of this House. We are acquain- ted with all the unfortunate event? that have occurred ill Manitoba before and since the entry of tluit prov- ince inti' tlie Cnnfederatii >n. i'A' erv one ot u. :ii(nv: tliose facts IS Wt! th as me Attonu'v (Icncral of Maiiitolwi himself and when he ap[i(',ire(l It tl' lar. uot a simcle ni(Mnl)er learned a Jiict thai \\(' liad nm [ircviotisly known. Why then did the lionorable menilier i'or North Hastings bring h(M'e tlie Attorney (ieneral of .Manito- ba and get liim to rei)e;).t what we already knew aa well as the witness ? It was because he admitted and rei'oguized the ])rii !!■ II e winch I am (lef(Mulni<i- a t this moment. was because he recogni/.ed the fact that the com- plete khii\vledge \vbif:li e:icb of us ])Osses.scd was not sujlivMcnt to jiermit tlie IlnuM'of ("oiiiiimns to act hecause li e recogni/.ed that we arc exercising judicial ON I.OKIS RTEl's EXPl'I.ylON 27 functions and that it was essential for liim to estab- lish ju'licially and by the best evidr !ice the charges he hr.d made against tlie meni])cr for I'rovencher. Since he admits this principle, he should be con- sistent and furnish literal i)roof of bis charges ; but in this he has completely failed. Ho Avas bound to produce an iit'lictmrnt, but he lias failed in this duty and T can safely conclude that there is NO I'HOOK that the member for rrovonclicr Avas indiclcd and that iilruc bill was found against him. It will be argued, pcrha])s, that the reasons which I advance are pure legal subtleties. Name them as you please, teclinical expressions, legal subtleties, it matters little; tor my part, I say that tliesc techni- cal reasons, tbe-^e legal sul)lletio.s, are the guarantees of J'>ritis]i liberty. Thanks to these technical exin-es^iions, these le- gal snlitloties. no ])erson on l>riti>h soil can be arbi- trarily deprived ol what belongs to him. There was a time who the procedurr was niueli simpler than it is to-day, when the will alone of one man was sulli- cient to deprive anothiM' ni;in of liis liberty, bis j)ro- perty, his honor and all tliat makes life dear. J!ut. since tiie days of tiie (ireat Cliarter. never has it been '.-.ossible on lU'itish " soil " to rob a man of his liliertv. his ])roi)erty or his 1 lOUoi' except under the safeguard of what lias been termed in this de])ate technical exi>ressions and 1( gal subtleties. It will lie further ohjeeted. i>e"ha])s, tiiat the admission ')f tills jiriiiciph' will have the cfTivt of preventing this House from reaeliiiiga man ac; used of an abomiuiible crime. Tl lis ol)joetion simply > vailes t uestiim. for the point whicli remains to be deci(h'd is wliether it is true that sucli a cliarge exists against tlie memher for Proveneher. T maintain that, as long as we have not before us tiie literal proof, wo iiave no proof'. 28 spEFini Tt i8 i^erfectly true that in matters of this kind, ■\ve exercise A SOVKIUCffiX Al'TIIdlMTY. !! N o power can alter wliat we siiall (1»j, no matter ne ])0W unjust or .'irbitrnry it may be. We can. if like, take no account of the precedents (.'itcd for our guidance, pay no attention to the sacred laws estab- lished for tlie protection of the citizen, act upon in- complete cvideuce or upon none at all, but will wo do so ? We undoubledly have the power, l)ut have we the right to arbitrarily set aside tlie rules which con- stituts the security of society and of tlu^ citizen ? Tf the House forgets this f,o day, it may i)erhap3, obtain a temiiDniry satisfaction, but it will create a prece- dent which will l)e a perpetual danger for our con- stitution and which in the future will herve as a jirc- text for more crying acts of injustii <;. 1 sul)nut to the consideration ot the House that he who has to ajjply the law should not try to show himself wiser than the law. T submit that there is no practice more dangerous than to try to violate the law to ol)tain any result, no matter iiow desirable it nuvy be. I will be further told, perhaps, that these are lawyer's objection. This remark may have some force, Init what is still lu^rc forcible is tliat tlicse objeetiDUS command the respect of every man who respects the laws of his country. [ repeat that these objections are NOT MKIiK srr.TLICTIKS. While we have not the indictment here before as, we havti only an incomplete jiroof, a part of the proof. Tt we had had the indictment, we niiiiht havo cross([Ucsti()ned the Attorney General and then we would have succeeded in bringing out an important ox I.oris EIEI. 3 EXn I>]ON 29 fact, namely, that that indiclmen' was obtained by a conspiracy between the Attorney (ieneral and a packed jury In any case, wo coiihl have crossquestioned the Attorney CJeneral in regard to II IH STKANCiK CONDUCT. We would haue learned how it was that he, witii zeal enough to turn simple constal)le with a bench warrant in his ])ocket, did not seek bel'ore today to capture the man whom he calls a murderer ; how it was that to tliat man, whom he now calls a murderer, he for years applied the title of friend. Now, we cannot cross<iuestion tlie witness on these important points, while wo haA'e not before us the proof of the i)rincipal fact, which -vould have opened the door to im})ortant deve opments. Mr Speaker, nobody has forgotten tliat the liono- rable member for North Hastings, in making liis mo- tion, laid stress chielly on ihe jjrecedent furnished by the English House of Commons in the Saddlier case. That precedent, T accept not only on this, l)ut on all the otheir points, and I will call the attention of the honorable member to one thing, whicli was that the first step taken against Saddlier was to j)rove the //t- rfic^mp??/ found against him, by laying on the cable an authentic copy of the same. T now pass to the second allegation of the motion of the honorable member for North Hastings, which states that the member for Provencher has systemat- ically eluded the pursuit of juktice and that he is .at present guilty of (•ontenn)t. If there is no proof liefore the House of an indict- ment against the member for Provendier, it is impos- sible, legally speaking, to protend that lie is a fugi- tive from justice and this, of itself, is enough lo de- stroy the assertion of the meml»er for North Hastings. Without, however, adopting tlii.a, pcrliaps. ex- treme way of looking at it, lot us face and examine the question squarely : is the memlier for Provercher 30 -PEECir a fugitive from jjstico or is he not ? Ts lie or is he not contunuicious? I liiive already rei>e:ited that we have no legal proof of an indictineiit ; it is true that we have before us that a bench warrant was issued by the Court of Queen's Hench in Manit()l)a against tiie member for Provencher and that so far that warrant has not bceft executed. This is all the proof befjre this House ia support ofthcmi)tion df the honorable memlter for North Hastings. V.'ell. T do not hesitate to say that, in law as \> ell as in justice and equity, it cannot l)e concluded from this simple fact that tlie member for Provencher can at this present hour be I I CONSIDEKKl) AS CONTrMACIolS. In point of fact, that warrant was issued at the term of November last. Now there is nothing very extraordinary in the fact that it could not be executed in time to bring the accused belbre the court before the close of the term ; the meml)er for Provencher might have been al)sent from Manitoba at that period. It '3 notorious that, since the unfortunate events of 1869-70, he has almost constantly resided abroad. Ft is very possible that the news of his indictment may not liave reached him until after the close of tiio term. But, it may b(! said, why did he not give him- self up tlien ? Simply because it was better tor him to remain iu lil»erty until the next term. Tfhehad given himself uji at once, he would have been oldiged to remain a prisoner for six or seven months, perhaps, awaiting his trial. Who can say, however, that he will not appear even to-morrow before the court, if it required his presence to-morrow? Who can say that he will not eagerly seize the occasion to stand his trial if that occasion lie given him ? But T hear it said : there as quite recently a term of the court and he did not give himself uj) to answer to the charge standing against him. Sir, this object is worthless, because if you pretend ON LOfIS lUKL S KXIMI.SION 31 tljiit tlie court lias sat. tlien where are the proceedings Avhich have l)een taken to e3tal)lish tliat he is a fugi- tive I'roiu justice? Where li' tlie report ol' tiie sheriff of tlie province attesting tliat lie tried to execute the warrant issued against the nieinher for Provenclier, hut tliat he could not succeed in doing so ? In the face of this proof or ratlier of this al)3ence of proof, where is the English suhject. with resi)ect for English law, who will dare to rise in this House and maintain that the meniher for I'rovenclicr is con- tumacious ? JJut there is more than all this. The niemher for Provenclier has always asserted that the old Adminia- tration had PKOMISKI) II I M AN AMNKSTY for all the acts in which lie had taken part in .Manitoba prior to the admission of that province into the Con- federation. Jle liaij reiterated this assertion twenty times, })erhaps. ITis friends have made tlie same assertion and the old Administration has never been ■willing to speak out on the subject. Called upon over and over again to declare what there was in this alleged promise of amnesty, to state simply yes or no, it has never been willing to say yes or no. I regard this obstinate silence of the old Adminis- tration as an absolute confirmation of the pretension of Mr Riel and his friends — it is a case of " silence giving consent." Well, if this be the case, if the member for i*ro- v(niclier was promised an amnesty for all the acts ■which he may have committed in Manitoba while at the head tif the provisional government, is it surpris- ing that he should not want to suluuit to those wlio now wish to drag him before the courts for those same acts? Is he not warranted in so acting? Is he not right in so (hnng in order that the promise of amnesty made to him, in the Queen's name, mav be carried out ? Who can say that, under the circumstances, he is a fugitive from justice, that he is contumacious ? 32 SPEECH No, Sir, as long as this question of tlie amnesty lias not been cleared up T, for one, shall never declare that this man is a fugitive from his country's justice. Moreover, this question will be soon elucidated, as no later than last week we named a committee to en(juire into it. This committee is sitting at this moment and the Ht)use, in my opinion, would do not only a culpable, 1)Ut an illogical and inconsistent act, if it came to any decision affecting this question from near or far, until it has received THE IlEPORT OK THE COMMITTEE. In addition, Sir, from the legal point of view alone, at the stage reached by the proceedings takea against tlie member for Provencher before the Court of Queen's Bench, in ^lanitolja, it is impossible to say that he is contumacious. T have already stated that I was ready, in all respects, to follow the rules laid down by the House of Commons in the Saddlier affair; now, the principal rule adopted in that affair is that a man cannot be declared guilty of contempt unless all the opportu- nities of standing his trial have been exhausted and that he has not sought to take advantage of them. Wlien the Saddlier affair came up for the first time before the House of Commons the motion for expulsion was rejected, because Saddlier could still come before the court to stand his trial and liecause it would have been premature to declare him contu- macious. The Att(n'ney CJeneral for Ireland said on tlie subject " <bat, if he had an advice to give to the House, he would recommend it To let the motion stand over until the next session ; in the interval, the pro- ceedings begun Avould be continued and Mr Saddlier would be brought before the court and stand his trial or he would bo outlawed." The House of Commons adopted this wise sugges- tion and, as I have already had the honor to state, the motion of expulsion avjis rejected on that occa- sion. ON LOUIS RIEI. S EXrVLSION 33 There. Sir. is un example iilready traced out for U8 : t"i)r luy part, a3 I have already reniaiked, T am ready to Inllow it in all rc?pcct.s, I do not know ■whether the honorable nicnibcr for North Hastings is prepared 1o sny as much. I roiiie now to llio third point oltho n:otion ; that tlie lujnorable niendjer for Provendier has disobeyed the order of this House commanding liim to ap])oar in his seat on a lixcd day. I maintain that this fact does not exist. The mendier for Provendier could not disolioy, for the simi)]e reason that he could not liave re<iularly had knowledjie of this order, i-ince it was M:\KR sKiMlIKl) TO HIM. Mr. Powell. — Ilcir, hear Mr. Laurier. — I hear the honorable mend.ier for Ismth Ila.'^tini.'s cry: " liear hear ! "We!!, T again refer the honorable meniber to tbcf^addlicr precedent upon which he claims to re-ft his case and which nevertheless he is always forgetting. ITo will see there tiiat the House of Commons had caused to be served on f^addli'^r llio order comninnding bini to apijoar in his t-( at and that it had sent one of its mes- sengers exi)ressly to Ireland for the purpose. T again (juote the words of the Attorney (leneral : Ho could infoi 111 the iroiis^*' thtit on Mondny last one of its niossougcrs liml none to Iiclaiid and, on tln' next day. had served npon Mr Saildlior. at his doniirile in tlie connty 'i'ippe- lary, the order coiiunanding liiiii to lie in his s(-at : tliat, on the same day. Ik' had Id't a cniiy of the order at a house in Dublin, in wliicii Mr .'^addlier had Inimi rly resided, and that lie had lett anotlu'r coiiy \vith ^Ir ::^addlier's lawyers. T now expect to hear tlu; honoi'able mendjer for North Hastings tell us that it was useless to try o serve the order of the ITouae on the member t'or Pro- vendier, since nobody knows where he is at this moment. Put, if it was impossible to serve the order fi '\ 'I! 34 srioKiit persnnnlly on tho member iVtr Proven cher, it was easy to liavc served it iit liis doniicilo, as in the Saddlicr iiirair. Is there not an absolute finiilarity between tlie two cases ? And look at tjie minute inecautions taken l)y the Knglisli House of ("oninions to notify ??addlier and to call upon him to defend himself again- 1 the motion of ex [tuition J Ten no thine; of the f-ame kind has Iicon down. al)Solutely nothing. T therefore contend — and T defy contradiction on this jjoint — that tiie House cannot take into consideration llie motion of the honorable member for North Hastings as long as it has not served on the meinl)er for I'rovencher tlie order com- manding him toapi)ear in his seal, as long as it haa not eilAr.I.ENCKl) IIIM to d( efend himse If. For it is the privilege, the right, in fact, of every British subject that he shall be stripped of nothing whieli belongs to him, without first being called upon to defend himself . l)Ut it will lie said. iierhn])s. on the other side of the House: Wliat is the good of all these purely ab- stract objections? AVhat ]iurpose would it serve to notify the tlie mcmlicr for Pruvencher of the motion to be made against him ? Are not all the facts charged against him true? Ts he not guilty? Even though he were tlie greatest cul])rit in the Avorld. the law should be followed and resjjccted. Even though he might not have a word to say in his own defence, he should not the less be notified. The fundanu'iital jirinciple of all justice is that nobody shall ever be condemned, williout having been heard in his own defence or without having licen called upon to defend h ust (lelend himscll. in numerous cases, accisions, j in themselves and perfectly equitable, have lieen re- versed l)y the higlier court: in England, solely because the party condemned had not been notified to defend himself. ii; ON I, oris RiKi.'s Exrn.sioN 35 '1 I may hepennotted to liore cite tlio lan<iU!i!TO of Judge liailey ill II caso reported ill volume 12 of the Law cmd E'fiilii lirpnrls, p. 242: 1 know ol' iin ciise, ho Haiil, in ^\•llil'll ii poiver <xPioising jiulicial t'liiic'tions i-iin tU'inive a man of aii\ fraction whutovcr of his pioperly, uitliout Iiis liavhii: Wow previously lullod upon to iiivsent iiis dcienco. Ilo wlio ilecide.s u oasr witiiout havin;^ ln^aivl till' otiifr side. Ills not done what isj'.Ht, even thougii Ills decision slionld be'jnst As for me. Sir, T am of French origin and my ctlucatiun lias heen French, hut T have tliis of the liriton in me : an ardent h>ve of fair pUiy and of justice. Now, T aspert — and nohody can contradict me — that the mernher for Provencher has not on this occa- sion had either justice or fair play. The Mouse ii asked to come to an unjust and illegal decision ; hut, for my part. I shall never consent, in this instance or any other, to deprive a man of the smallest jiarticle of Iiis rights or jiroperty without firs-t having given him the henefit of all tlio legal I'onns to defend him- self. T therefore helicvc tliat, on this point as on the preceding ones, 1 can conclude in all safety that the allegations on whicli rests the motion of the honor- able memher for North Hastings are not supporte<l l»y euflicient proof. These reasons are certainly conclusive in favor of the amendment of the memher i'or Chateauguay. To th.at amendment, my honoralile i'riend, tlie member for IJagot (Mr. Mousseau) has jfroposcd a sub-amendmeat, demanding purely and simply an amnesty on the S[iot, without waiting for the report of the committee of encpiiiy. It is ditlicult to conceive area.son to warrant this demand of the honorable meml)er. A member on tho Ministerial side toldtlie lionor- able member for North-Hasting- yesleiday lliat iiia T 3G si'Krj'ir H nliject in making liis iiidtinn wiiri nnicli loss tn cxjiel ]\Ir. llit'l thill) t(i try to tMiil)airas.s tlio (iovi'iTiDciit. I puspect that tlio object of the lionoral>]c incinlicr lor ]>agtjt. in projiosing his nniendinrnt. is aleolutr ly tlie earno. Tliere socms to he .\.N INTIMATK AI.I.A.NCK l/('l\vt'cn tiic honovahlc nionil.or I'nr North Ilastinjrs and tlio homrahlf nicnilcr for l>a;f(il.( I'-xtrcnifH meet :) botli are on the war j.alh ar.d holh arc assailing n common enemy ; one directs liisi altncl; against the?, rigl^t Ihink and tlie otlier agiiinht tl>e lel't. and liolh hojx- tliat. it' Hie enemy ePctijKS licm the blows of llio one, he will fall under tliose of tlie other and that tliey will .Hiececd in eacli planting his Hag on the fur- trens to]>. Sir. r have not the honor to know (h(> lior.ora])]fl jnendier for North Jlastings. and 1 would not wish to susjjeet his motive;-; ; T do not Mr I'owell : — Oh! don't liesitate; T Lave no 8<ru])les. Mr Laurier : — lUit T have. Once inore. F f ay. [ have not the advantage; <>f knowing the honorable member for North Hastings. T do not want to sus- pect his motives : 1 would rather lielicvc in their .sin- cerity. ])Ut. as lor my honorable Iriend, the meiiiber ior I'agot. T kimw him too long and too well tt) not read his game clearly and 1 do not hesitate to s-ay thatlie isfar le.'s anxious lor the amnestying ofMr IJiel than Ik; is lor eoniprc misirg the Administration, if possible. 1 think that wlien the lionorable member for Pro- vencher learns what is b.appening here to-day he will txclaim : LolJli. SAAE MK KKOM MY I KIK.NOS ! As a matter of iV.ct, could tlie honorable mem- ON LOUIS UIKI.S EXIM'I.SION' .■^7 licr for I'iMuut soriiiusly li())w thut tlio IInuso uduld ivilopt his aiiiciKliiiiMii ? Wliv tlicu did lie itropo.'ae it? Tt WilS only l;|:^t \V('(>k fllMt tiu' I I nU-iC UHlini UK lUS- ]y iiiimed :i ('oimuitti'o to eii(|uii'o into the wIidIo (juo^tiou of the aiinio.sty. iind. at tins very liour, this coininitti'c i«< silting !iu(l M;^r 'Pacht' is giving his cvi- dcuci' Ucl'orL' it. Now, Sir, this {M)ninuttoc U useful <n- it is not. Tfit lias n(i utililv whatever, wiiv did nnt tiio honorahk' meuiher nppM.-c it when it was a.sketl for? A\'hy did lie not pruiio.^e a suhanioudnient, roconi mending tlic iimuediate Lrrantiiis the jitnnoHtv? Why did he nut save tn tiie country the enorninug expense tliat tiie empiiry will entail ? If, on the iither hand, the emiuiry made hy the committee may he useful for the amnestv, WHY NOT WAIT until Mgr Taelu' and Father llitehot have given their evidence? Does the hoiioralile menher for Uagot ima- gin e that he is doing a service to Mr Kiel in striving to deprive him of the hent^it of the evidence tif Mgl" Tache and Father Ilitchot? Does tiie mend)er for liagot think that tlio evid(,'nce of Mgr Tache and Fa- ther Ilitchot will have less etTect towards ohtaining the amnesty than his suh- amendment ? Well. if all that has heen said ahoul the promises niaile hy the ex-(iovernment to Mr Kiel he true.T am in t'avor of the amnesty, and for this reason T shall not hesitate for an instant ahout voting against this suit-amendment. .\nd. if my honorahle friend will permit me. I will tell him that his suh-amendment will not have in the province of (iu(;l»ec the etlect he anticipates fri>m it. liecause. Sir. I tell tlie honorahle niemlter that from this day forward the province of (^uehec will know who are the pretended friends of Mr Iliel and what thev are aiming at in shouting so loudlv in his 88 SPKECII heliiilf. T iilso trust that Mr lliol will iiiuU-rstiUKl tluit lit* linw licc'ii iiiftdc till' tiMij til' !i low iiitrijiucrs. wlm. in the njiiiie <il" iViiiiids, have ondciivnurcil tu iiiiiUc him tliciiistruinent nC their iiinchinatiniM ; in tiiio, I trust that he will luidcrsliuid that id.s Itost tViciulg are not tliii.sc who most pretend tn liesutdi. Yes, I am IN lAVOU OK TUK AMMI.^rV and when thc! time CMms, thai is to say. wl)en tlu; c«»mmittee has made its report, when the [trool' which has heen hofiun has liecn elo.qcd. I will nnl he llio last to demand it. T am in lavor ol'tho amne.-ty I'm' twu reasons; the (ir.'^t is that liiveii. last nijilit, l>y the hull, menilier I'or i^iiutii Ontario (Mr, Cameron), thai the Canadian Gtjvermment roreived the dele;j,'ate9 ol' Mr Kiel's gov- ernment and trcateii with liim as one power treat.s with another jiower. ir this reason exists in tact, the conclusion isinev- italde : the aimiesty must he.nranted. ^'csterday, the lion, mem Iter for .'^onth llfuce, (.Mr. Blake). re[)lying to the nuMnher i'or Sontli Ontario, seems to have admitted the lejiality ol'the proposition emitted by the latter, liecause he .u;ave lor stde answer that the proposition did not e.xist as a i|ue«tion ofract.that Mr Riel's/lelei^'atcs had ever lieen received hy tlieCanadi,"n (i'lvernment as dele;.iates ol .Mr. Jliel, hut asdelefxate.g of the jieople oi' Ue<l Kiver. Certainly. Twould (hink it an honor under almost all circumstances to adopt the lion, mendier tor South iJrucc's way of thinkiiifr. I'ut T cannot do so in this in.stance— the jjrooi' he ofTerrd us in sujiport of Ids tipiniim heiuL' any thin;^,' hut conclusive to my mind. Tn fact, what proof did he give us? Only an extract frtmi a ."speech delivered in some pari of Ontario hv the honorable member i'or Kingston, in which the latter appears to have .stated what T hare ju.st repeated, namely : that the delegates sent by Mr. ON I.OII- HIKI/S KXITI.SION 80 Rid luul not l)een rcccivod ih iIh.' dc'loj^iiti-s of Mr. Uit'l, hut 113 till) (Uilc^alcH (il'tlio pcoplo ot' U»m1 kivor. Once ni()i'«'. T Hiiy, thi-< proof (ninndt conviiKc mo. VoY I liiivi' yet III Iciirn tliut, llic (lolc^^utt^s woro inl'oi niL'.l of this (li^iiiu'tion at tlic time ot'thcir recep- tion ; irsueiiii distinction was tnude. it inu-t have consisted •)!' a mental re.-tiietion hy wliieh the honor- able niemlk'r I'or Kin<,Mton said to him-elt", while ostensihly recciivin^' tho doieyates ot' Mr. Iliel. that, in reality, he only wished lo deal with tlu! ilele- (.jates of the Ued Iliver people. Whatever may lie tl,(!ease, if the honor;ilile mem- ber for Kin,if-ton rtseeiveil the ileletiatos of the pe,)[)lo of Uod Uiver, his ooUeajrup. Sir (ieor)^o Cariicr, received the di'le^ates of Mr. Iliel and they presented to him, as the reiirosentativo of the Can ad;an ( iovern- meut, their letters of creilit sij^ned with Mr. Iviel'a own hand. If this lj(s the cjise, and it will jirohably he eslali- lished hy tho ovidon'-e before the comndtte ', then the loM;ical eonsei(uenc(^ of this act must f.illow and the iunnc-ty lie granted. T am in I'avor of the amnesty for still another reason — because all the acts with whiidi Mr. I!iel is ehar^'ed are riiiKi.v I'ni.rricAi. .\cts. It was said here yesterday that the e.xei ution of Scott was a crime; granteil, hut it was a iiolitical act. The I'eason ofthi^ eeenis evident ; Mr. Iliel, in signing the warrant for ,>cott's e.xe<'Ution, did nothing but give eifect to tho sentence of a court. However illegal may have been that court, how- ever iniipiitous nuiy have been the sentence rendered by that court, the; lact alonijthat it was rendered by a court and that that court existed </'■ fidio was sutli- cient to impart an exclusively political chara^'ter to the execution. It has also been said that Mr. Kiel was onlv a 40 'I'KE( II OX 1.01'IS IlIKl. S KXia'lTIiiX ■■'hel, IFow was it jiossihlc to xi^o such liiiicruaiic ? What iict of ri'lKrliioii dul he ciiiuniit '.-' Did ho ever raise any otliev staiKhird tliaii the naiional Ha-j.- ? Did ]u' <'V(\ ]ir()('I;iiui any other authority than tiu- sove- reign authority of the (iuecn ? No, never. Hi? whole crime and tlie •lime of his friends ^va- that tliey Avanted to he ti( .ited like Hriti'-di sulijects ami not to ho bartered away like eoniiuiui cattle ? Iftiiat he an act of rel)ollion, wher,' is the one anionj^st' us, wlio. if lie had happeneil to liave heen with ttiein, would not Jiave been rebels as t;i(\v were? Taken all in all, I Avould re<i;ard the ev(>iits nt H( il River in is<;o.7o ;i3 constituting a glorious page in our iiistory. if unfor- tunately tiiey liad n .<t been stained with the blood of Thonia-J Scott. Ikil such is tlu> state of liuaian nature and of all that is huni.m : (;oon .\Nn v.vii, are constantly inlerniingled ; the most glorious cause is not fr(,'e from inipurit}' and the vilest may lu've its noble side Yes, orce uh.re, T say that to ask for the amnesty now will simply render it more dillicult to obtain it eventually. Ik'fori' sitting down. T may be allowed to sum \ip in a single word : we have no proof of the facts on ■which the motion of expulsion rests and to adopt thai motion would lie not only to eonimi; an arbitrary act, but to e.^tablish a precedent which will lie a jterpe- tvial danger to our free iastitutior.-^. THE TARIFF QUESTION IN 187? PROTECTION vs A IIKVKMK TARIFF {HOUSE OF COMi\I().\^) SlTTINi. {)]•■ TlIK liL'.M) MAUCll. 1>77 It was iliiriiit: the session of 1^77 that Sir Jolm \. Macilo- niihl, lor •111- (i!>t tiiiii'. lai-^pil the laimnis ciy of •• a National Poliry.'' -Mr I.auiior took jiait in tlie debate after thohite hlv j\roiis>eaii. L'nibrtiuiatply there exists only a very ineomiilcto and poor version of his speeeli in the OtHcial IIuiis,tnl. -Mr. I. auric r ^aid lie would not nileiiipl tn i'ollnw the honoijililc ^oiitleiuan throujiii the whole raii.ue of his iirjrunuMit. Were it iieet\?f!ary. he could cap the (luotations cited hy suiievior and counter (luotatious. Every one must admit that the jiolicy of llie Admin- istration was at once i-.uiipreh.ensive, delinite and clearly mapped out. The Firil Minister had declared over a'ld over a.niiin that, thoujxh he v.as in iivinciple a iVce-trader. Jiic theory oi" frer-tra<le cmild nnt he ndo] ted in this cnuniry in it< entirety : ai;d thi't we could not collect a revenue cxcejit hy means of Ctis- toms duties. 'J'lic exigencies of the taritf had already increased duties tu 11 ■■ per cent., and tiii- \va-< as much protection as wa~ necessary for the manul'ac- turer. and as much as the co\iiitry couhl hear. What wa." (he policy of the Oppu.-iiioii as reveal' d in the motiiins i>l' till' linnorahle Uicmlicrs for ('eiilic W cl- m 42 tjrEECII liiijrton and Kingston ? The least that eouUl be said in this ii'hition was lliat it was loose, vague and very faintly ihilincateil. The riglit honor. tljle nictnhor lor Kiu.<f^tnn said tliat the tariff should l>e remodelled so us tn Ulster tlie aii'rieultural, luinin;^ and ninnut'ai;ti!- ring interests ot tiie c-ountry. No one wioild say that these words did -lot sound well. lUit the eountry r(>i{uir('d soinethini:; more, ft required tt> know whether tiif means wliereby this ^reat result would be achieved were natural or nuigical. Tin; ri;^lit honurahle mem- h(M' cannot expected any of his colleagues to pledge him-clf against the policy of the (rovcrnnient unles.s it wa-^ kuowii WilAT Till-; Pol.li'V TO REI'l. MK IT WAS ro UK. ()i course, the result of the ro.-(.lutioii •■ was a lore- gone co;u'lu-ion — they would he rejected l>y a large majority. l'>ut, il'the result was at all douhtlul, or the Irilanco ol' [);u'ties was not us it was, there would only he a more I'orcible reason that theeountrj' should know il once the extent to which the ()pi)osition conuuitted themselves. lUit the resolution and the arguiuciit-s ol" houoral^le gentlemen opi).)site had no |)rinciple. The resolution of the rig'i*^ honorahh^ mem- lier I'or Kingston eoutained only one assertion, viz : '■ That the iinancial ])olicy suhinitled by thetiovern- ment in(M'(\i-a's the burthen of tax;it.ion on the people, without any compensating advantage to ('.imnlian industries."' lie (Mr. Laurier) took that asst;rlioii to he a fallacy and an orror. Ther^^ v.as no increase of taxation. The tariff uas adjusted, but the taxation was not increased. Tiiere wa.-^ an increase in .'ome respects, luit a decrease in other respects, and the tariff wa- not onerou- upon the people, llonm-ahlc gentleman opijosiie shv)uld not forget that some of till! Ciiau^res arost; out o\' their own action. They •sliould not forget that last year on<! of their own mem- bers showed there was a grievance is to the existing tariff on petroleum, that that interest was over-jiro- tected. ft was in consequence of the representations ON TIIK TAHIKK C^UESTION IN 1877 43 of the honorable member for Staiisteud (Mr. Colby) that the (iovorniiient lernoved liie iluty on petroleum. Some iioii. iiif'inliers. — Hear! hear! .Mr i-aiirier said Imn. ineinhers might say "hear, hear, " liut the fact wastntlio er('(lit of the (Invern- meiit. for it f^hnwed that tliey were ready to remedy a wrdiiii' wlienever it was poiiite(i out tolhem. i^ut he was iidt at all surjirised lliat hnii. gentlemen re^a-etted that justice iiail been done in the matter ; ffentlemen opposite always reizretted snmethimi-. no matter what was done or what was not done. Three years a.ao tliey regretted tiiat tlie tariil" was increased from lo per cent, to 17j jier cent.. althnUL-di this jrave some protection to our indui-trie?. Liist year, everv one expected that the tariff would he increased : Imt it was not, and tlie Oppof-ition wert! loiid in their regrets, lie believed that, if the tariff had l)eeu increased, as was anticipated, tin' < >pposition would have been ecpiaily hind in their reL;rets. And now, when the tariff was pnitly increased and partly decreased, the <)[tposition wtie. as ever, hu;d in their expressions of refxrel. TUK CIIIEl' ('Ar<F. OK i'llKIl; CIMEF w;i- the fact that they had to remain on the ( )pposition seats, lie was (piite .sure that, if they were on the other side of the IToust;, everything, even though the same as now, wouhl be the best in the world. The resolution of the right bo!i. mendier tor Kingston in toto was loose and vague, and was prepared wil h a view to pussibilities of fu(ure contingencies — that w.is his candid belief. A policy of protection La t never occurreil to the riaht lion, acntieman durim;- his loiifj tenure of otlice. The present <Ioveinnient would not last forever, fiike everything human, it would her ,ta(; a thing of the past: and, therefm-.'. the ri'j;ht hon. mend)er had so framed bis resolution^ that his Jiarty would not be embarrassed when it came into jjowci-. The rcsolullcn would catch the wind, no matter from n I 44 gPEECIf Avliicli point ot'tlie compass it caiiu!. Tt would not be iliHii'ull for the ritjlit Lon. ffenlleiii:m iuul his party to (h'ive a coach aiul six throusih tlicir resolvitioii, and let the country have, on its l)asis, <(ither free trade, protoctiiin, incidental |)rot(v:tion or a rcuvMUU- policy. Tiie country had a ri^rht to demand more tiian this. It liad a riglit to demand that the ^-entlemen opposite should state somcthini,' definile a-: to the ]tolicy they would a(lo[)t when they came into ollice. He \va=! justified in sayinii' so, not merely on his own opinion, hut (tn the opinion ol' a li'entleman who was connected with the party of the honorable genthnnen opposite, a jxjutlenian whom they always justly held in iii<;h estimation, lie referred to .Mr NViiite, of the .Montreal (lazi-l/r. At the nuM^tinii' of the Dominion J'.oard of Trade, which took jilace in ]S74. a resolution wu3 moved liy .Mr Jas. .M(d'her3on( St John's, Q.)as follows : I Th.at a duty of I.") i er ceii^ is fair and roasonable, and no distmliaiici; of iho tarill'is at present de-iraljlo: l)at,s!iouM ii revision oitlie present tiintl ta!<e plact', it is resolved that the interests of our farmers ho thoroii;ililv looked after. r: Mr White then said. :- I rise to a |ioint of oi'lei-: Motions should lie definite in their character. I sulnnit tliis one i» very imlelinite. No one will deny that the intei'csts ol the farmer should he loolved after. But tlie motion should lie made in sueh a way that we would uiulerstand wiiat the mover meant hy loo'^ing after. The President of the iioird of Trade, who was a protectionist, .'^aid : — I must say I am i)lea^ed that Mr \Vliite has raised tlie • juestion of order, liecaiise the motion is loo indelinite. It is neoess.aiy that, in passini; resolutions, we should know what is me.ant hv them. He would not 'H) the length of saying that the ruling of the President of the IJoard of Trade ouglit ON THE TAKI FK (^IKsTItW IN 1S77 46 to lie tlif' ru inj;' of Mr S)>oal<er in the iu'e^^ent matter; but lie wnild ^ay that tiie ()[)jii).siti()ii Mutrht to give A .MOIil-: KNAcr DKl'lM'I'ION oftli(ii- ]M)licy. I'erliaps.llie I'e^ioliilion \v a." i=o worded to [jroiliice the Ksult reiVrri'd to liv Ta!!oyiaiid. when lie .«ai(l to his ])ii])il,s : ■■ ^'oul);^• iiicii. iciiu'nili<'r that lan^'uayo !i;!-'. Iiccn given to n;en to conceal tht-i,- Ihnuglit-^."" Th( Opjiosilion said they were not. going tn announce ihcir i)oliey ; that liny could constitu- tionally rcl'uHC to do so. !'>ut this was not the lan- guage \v!)ich the great l/dicral-l'onsei'vative party should u.-e. The l.ih'aal party ncvei' f-hrank honi declaring its }i(di', y, denouncing ahuses and sugges- ting renu'dics ; and it injt only suggested hut h)rced remedies down the throat of the (iovernment whii-h then t;xisted. I hit, perhaps, it was not fair to expect gentlemen opposite to give the House thc-ir p(diey. He thought they ha.d a very great icason why they should not. And that reason was that tiiey had no- thing detiu'te; they had no policy. They had a higli- sounding nanu'. which they called the " NaticiUal Po- licy. '" 11' the motion were to carry, and the (iovern- uient were defeated, ar.d the Opposition formed a new Administration, the ve y moment they attempted to cari'yout their National I'olicy. there would he a con- fusion worse than that at the Tower of lialiel. Kach intere t would sjicak a (liflVrent language. which wouhl not he understood l.j- the olliei'. l'>ven now they did not agr(>e. They had the name oi' a National I'oliey, hut not the substance. Tin; resolution of the liglit honorable member for Kingston proposed jirc (ectiou for three interests — the iruinuriictunng. agricultviral and nnning. The I'csolution of the honciraijie member for Hamilton (.Mr Wood) threw overboard theagiieul- tural and mining interests, and only advocated pro- tciliou to manulactures. ]!ut. thcmon.ent theamend- ment to his own motion wa^ made, ihe right honor- able member for Kingston ;;cjepted the modilication ii , 46 fPEECIt of hi< policy. Tlio lioiioraMc ineniber for Centre Wul- linjftoii (.Mr Ortoii) then threw ovorliourd tl-e niunu- facturing and mining- interests, and ni(jved in favor of ugri(!ullure alone, and tlii.s was at once accepted by tlie Opposition. He believed that, were a re-^olution presented in I'avonr of luiiiinii: alone, it would be suj)- ported by the gentlemen oppo.site. Tlie National Po- licy bad not yet been batcheil, and. if it bad any basis at all, it was tluit li-'.ii TIIK IIREAI) Ol' TIIK PEOPLK SlIOlLU JiK TAXTI), and this was tiu; remedy proi)i>sed for the evil.^ of the present (iovernment by the great Cnnservative party, ■which professed to lie the friend of the people. lie could not sjieak for any province Imt his own, but in Quebec the National Policy was held to be a mockery and a i'arce; it was an inhuman jxilicy, in that it would make fuel and food dearer. As to the charge of inconi^istency against the Liberal party of Quebec in this matter, Mr. Papineau was a prtitectionist not so much from reasons of political economy as political reasons. Our country was then struggling to obtain political lilierty and responsible government, and the French Liberal party prciposed tliat we should dose ourselv(;s within our own limits ami buy notiiing from England. i>ut now we were given most ample justice and tlie most comi)lete liberty, and the result ■was that, in all tliis vast empire over wliich the sun never sets. there were 110 peo))'.e more attached to Bri- tish institutions than French Canadians. He held, however, that there were some industries which could not beestal)lisbed without the aid of legislative action. He said this oinnh' and in the face of his own poli- tical friends. Thcr. it might lie asked why he favored the policy of the present (iovernmcnt '.^ His answer was that it was because there was ON TFIE TAKll'l' QTESTION IX 1877 47 NO NECESSITY FOlt MOliE I'lidTEi TldN tlian we had ; tlic party o]iii(t.-ito did r.ot .=0 imicli Avaiit iiu'voased protoctiim as to arouse tlif iirojudicfs oi" tlic masses apainsl tlic (lovcrnnieiil . It iviust nut 1)0 I'or.iiottoii tlint tlM'tarilf was adeiiuntc. We had a, tenipnrary del'u-it. it was tr;U'. hut tliat would he inot by increased econoiiiy. Tl'tlie uenlh'nicn opiKisite Avere in earnest they wduld point out the industries wliicli wanted protection, lint instead of tluit they did nctthintr hut f;;cnerali/,e. \\'hen they si^ike of pro- tection they said nothinjr unless they said everythinif absolutely definite. Free-tra«le was a ]irin(iple, hut protection was not a principle. When they asserted the doctrine of free-tratle they were at once understood. Tliey laid down the i)rinci[i]e that all the relations of trade must he rejiulatcd hy tlie same conditions. But protection could not l)e treated as a i)rinci])le, as it did not carry with it any definite idea. Tt simjily aflirnied that certain l)ran(Iics of industry nuudit to lie put beyond the ordinary rules of 1 radc. and that the enh;',nced price of the article would h(> more than cumpensated liy the addition to ihe lain ur of the country. He called upon the yeutlenien oi)i)osite to sliow that 17j jier cent, was not suflieient ])rotection. The country was somewhat jirospemus under the re- .iJliiueof the L'lntlenien i)])})osite.])Ut this fat t wasauainst the argument tiiey now use(h for the tariff then was lower than at present. But that was not all. Hi.s boiKirahle friends fVom Terrebonne and l>a,C!<it.in fact, all wliii had addnssed the House on the Op'position side, liaiid insisted upon A RF.TAI ! A l"KY I'oi.ic they (!ee1are<1 tliev wanted reciprocal trade with the Tnited-Stat^-. Intt, if they could not ol.iain it. ihey wanted reeiprocity of taiifl'-, wlK-rcliy the duties iinjiosed on American t^oods v. uM be as luLih as th<^se levied on Canadian goods entering tiic United trtates. 48 • i'Ki;i II If any iiU'aHuru (ituld Ik; riilculalcd to do iiijuiy tu this t'ouhtry that wouhl he the very luoasure. Excess in any thin;;' w a< a liad thini:, and pnitertion \\:\4 not an exc('iitii)n to the rule. ExeesHiVfi iirotOftinu to an imlustiy woidd prove the ruin of tliat industry. He WiOllU l| iioti; the woidn ot'the lionoralde mendiMr I'nr Stansteaih a protectionist, win), m referring to tlie pctrohMiin trach', siio\ve(l tlic result oi' exces.sive pro- tection. They had it from hi)noral)le gentlemen oppo- site that unilue protectijn wnuld destroy the petru- leuni trade, and, further, that a, dutv. which was esti- Stanstead at 2." nniteu hy the lionin-aUle member lor Manslead al zo \)vv cent, had cuiiijjletcdy destroyed the trade, which hud heen c()ntroIle(l hy an organized "■ King. "' What was the rem<'ily in'diin.'-ed hy hiuuirahle gentlenirn opposite? The .\mericans had to pay ii duty on our relined petroleum of Klc. per gallon : the Canadian duty wa~ I'le. ; did honorahlf! mendiers ojiposite pro- pose to retaliate? Did they i>ro[)ose that the Canadian duty .should he increased from loc. to lOc. ? Instead of tiuit, they proposed that the loc. duty should he reduced l)y one half. That was how honorahle gentle- men opposite i)racti,HHl retaliation, while they de- clared tliat the (iovernment should ado]it a retalia- tory policy, yet in iiracticc. instead of asking thai the tariff on petrohmm should he increased to tliut of the Uniteil 8tate^, they asked that it should he decreased. If the prot(>i:tion duly of '_*•") per cent, on ijctroleum has destroye(l that industry, wliat would l»e the elFect of imposing a tarifron trade ni'4n, ."() of 1()() pei' cent.? The effect would lie that our industries would l)e complct'dy annihilated, lie could not unilerstand the conduct of h(moral»le gentlemen opposite when they liclieved the country would not see through such pler.s. lie supposed these honorahle gentlemen would some tlay return to power, and how would they allu'm the policy of retaliation ? lie asked them io point out how they would retaliate, would they reta- liate on everything, itetroleum included : would they exclude that article? It was (iuit(>d evident that the retaliatory policy was ON TAniir iin>riiiN i\ 'i I 4Q S\\\l'\.\ A CRY, poiuctliiii).' to Huit tlifir purpose fur tliu time, Imt wlifii tlic'v cDiiif li;u'l< to iiower it wmild never he liftiird of ;iL,Miu. Tiiiit rcliiliiitory jioliry rcniindcil liiiii ol' lilt; old loiu[)lc of .TiiniH. tlio doors of wliicli wcrfopcn duriii;:' wiir hut cloiJcd as soon as why was over. I r :;>ii:. m-ut Icmeu 0|iposilc canic oack to oH'icis tlio doors "I' tlie nstaliatory policy would lie cioscil. lii'vcr to t)pi'n laojo. Tlic theory of retaliation, called a ])olitieal ])oliey. was a theory of the lion, nicmher lor Terrchoniie (.Mr. Masson). as he .Liave it the other day in his speech. .Mr. Ma~son said it was not his policy, he frave it as the i)olicy of Sir Alexander ( lalt. .Mr. I.a'/r:er <aid the lion, niemiier \\-dt[, perliaps, (pioted it as the policy of , Sir .Me.xander (ialt. When a man threw hiniself into the ahsurd th(M-e was no limit for it ; hecause, at the .same time, his lion, friend advocated that the ( lovernment of the day should not only prote !t the lahour of the country, hur should also .u'ive lahour to the laliourin.Lr class. The hon. memher for Tei relionnc.(.Mr. Massonj, had enunciated what was chai acterized allorwards Ijy the hon. the ^Minister of the Interior as coniniunism, a doctrine, whieli was lound in the works of l.ouis IManc.Such was contained in his woik. puhlished in IS-l.S, called " The llijiht-' of ],ahour." Napideonused to say that if they scratched a ilussian they were sure to lind a Tartar, and if tlic\ scratcheil a (.iuehee ( 'on-ervative thev would lin( I! lidical ol tl !■ I'cnen S( hool. I'lxtrenies alwavs met. The hon. niendier tor l>a"iit had used angua,ii;e winch, ir suhversive do.'tri lie was (luite equal to that used hy tliehon. nicmher for Terrehonne. Tile hon. nie.uhcr for Ua^ot (Mr. .Mousseau) had attacked the I!enc]i of his e()untry and had sjjoken of it in derisive and ciiluninious terms and aiii)lied to the Heiu'h a t(>rm not fouml in the i-'rench lanL;ua<re hut hy the French pre-<s of L)wer Canada and apphed tt) tiie jiidgcp..\iiy man who did not respci't the llench of fiO frKKClI M luscountrv, ai;(l wlio iittucUcil it in :-U(li liinpiuijre, could nut 1)(.' 1 mini of ^ui'li institutinni and would iiovcf dcscivc tlir nnnir ut' patridl. Tlic lion, mender lor l>a,i;o( had ^onc .-til! I'aithcr and in tono^ of virtuous indii^iudion had even act used Ihf ( lovcrnmcnt and its iVifutlf with I'atlcnin^fun liu' sweat d'tlic iK'oplc. Fattening on thes-weatol' the jito- ])le IS a very liif^ word in the nioulli of the niend'cr I'oi' j'a^nt ! The cxiiressien is not a new one. hut it is soniethinK unexpected from the lii the hon mendier. During- the French llevtdution in the thiy.s ot" \'endendaire,( ieneriil I'lUonaparte had hecn ehartiCtl jiythe Directory with the duty of niaintainin;i order in I'aris. lie was traversinf,^ th(> theatre of the recput insurrection. wlien, i'roni ii threateninir proui). an enor- mously !-toul fishwoman stepjied out, and, with raised arm, siiouted : " I'liere is one of those who are fatten- injj on the sweat of the people ! '' The ficneral, who, .it that time was extremely thin, answered her : " Hut, my <jfood woman, if any one here is ''atteninir on the sweat of tiie people, which is it — you or I ? '' Tho contrast was so strd<in,u- that the crtiwd, althou-ih ii ho.-tile one, liurst out into ))rolonjj;ed hvu.uhter. f see no other answer to jiive to the hon. mendier, whose amiilitude and lanj^uape have served to recall this incident to my mind. T am one of the friends of the Government ; I am theiefoi'e one of those assailed hy his virtuous indignjition, hut I take the whole world to witness, if any one here is fattcninu' on the swetit of the people, which is it— he or T? He would not do the Same injustice to the ( 'onser- vativcs as tiny, llie Liherals. had to sutler every day. He would not say they wore Communists hut Con-ei- vativcs ofQuelec would stop short oliiothin^- to nhlain ixisition. They would tax the people's bread, they would attack the I'tMieh. and. as was said one day hy the hon. memler for W'entworth ( Mr. Hynuil), tho ferocity of a she-hear depiived of her culis was no- thin>i' compared with that of the Tory jiarty when deprived of the spoils of oflice. POLITICAL LIBERALISM DKllNrTIoX OF TIIK IJIlKUAI. IDKA Mil. I.AIKlKl; AN AliMIUKl; ANH DISCIIMK oK TIIK KNt.I.IsII l.IllKUAI. ^fllOOl, Leviure delivered at flit' Aradtmy of Music. Q/i'/nr, on file invilatiott of the Cluh ('aiiudien, en (he 'l^Uli .//o/e, 1877. [■rr:ii.-iiiiiiiii.] ilr Presidcn/, Lailics ami (]inilrii,r]i, I cannot ronccal the tact that it was with a certiiin I'ct'ling ul' |>lca.>-ui'(' that T acccptfd the invita- tion to come hel'oie you tn exjjhiin what are tlie <loe- trincsol'the l.ihcval party and wlial the word " Lihe- raliflm"' moans as iciiards the i.il)erals of tlie in'ovinee of Quebec. 1 Hay that it was not without a certain feelinijj of pleasure th;it T accepted; but 1 would certainly liave r(;fused if I had looked onlv to the diiru ulties the task. II ( IW c\ vx. if the didiculties of tliat ta>^k are nu- merous and delicate, oii the other hand Tain ;'0 iuihucd with the inii)ortan( e for tl e Lilieral party of clearly deliniufr it? )Hi*ition, before the puiilic opinion of the ])rovince. thtitthis consideration was to my mind I'ar al)ove all tl;e ('thers. Ii iCl. \il not oeceive mv.'^cif with re^ald to the IMAGE EVALUATION TEST TARGET (MT-3) 'V. /, {/ .< c. / C/j '4<5 1.0 I.I 1.25 '" 1= IIIM 12.0 illU m 1.8 lA nil 1.6 VQ <^ /} % e. ■& & ^,>: o /,. X. / //a Photographic Sciences Corporation 23 WEST MAIN STREET WEBSTER, N.Y. 14580 (7)6) 873-4503 a\ ^q\ ^^ \ \ ^<b ^3>. O^ %^ o:^€i, if C/j o^ 62 SPKECir i :i( position oftlio I.ilii r;il p;irty in the i»roviiiie df (Juo- 1»(',: and T iiavt' hd iif~ilalioii in inimcdiately ■^ayin'r tliat it oc('U|iics a false position \'y<>n tin; -^lanil|Miint of j»nlilic opinion. I know tliat. in the eyes of a laru<^ nunilMT lit" my tclinu luuntiynicn. the Lilicial party is apnrty compnsod of men oipowtTsc doctrines and dan;.MToUr; tcudi'iicic?!, pressing:- K-now ini^lv and clclii)- eratc'ly towards rcvtdution. 1 l<now thai, in tiio oyes of a jiortioii o| I'ly Idlow < ouulrynuii. tin' l-iLcral party is a parly of men witli npritrlit intentions, per- liap!*, I'Ut victims and dujies "I prlncijiles wldeli an; leadinL' them uncon?>f ionsly.lait fatally, tow ardsrovo- Intion. In line. 1 know 1 liat. in the eves o|' another. and not the lea-t coni-iileraMe ])ortioii.i)erliaps. ofour people. Liherali.'-ni is a uvw form oi' evil, a lieiepv earryin'j- with it it~ own eondeiiination. I know all this and it is liecanse I know it. that T liave aeeeptod the invitation to come here. I have iiot the presuniptit)n to lielieve that anything: I nn,Ldit say lurre to-ni;.dit will have the* tiVet ol'dis.aipatitiLiany iif tin' prejudii cs existinir at |ir<'sent a.u■ain^^t us: my only amliition is to lead the way in the liojie that it wili lie followed liy others and that the work thus fieiiun will he fully eariiedout; my iireten.«ion,s uo no tV.rtlier than tid.s. And let no one say that this manife.statiou isi use- less or untimely. It is neither U'^eless n(n- untimely to eomhat t]\<* prejudices which have Keen liy raised like a l)arrier everywhere hetwcen us and puldic opinion : it in neither useless nor untimidy to clearly deline our jiosition as it really is. It is (|uite true that we have Iteen already loni^ enouirh hffore public opinion to Liive it full opportu- nity to know and appreciate us. Ikit it is e(|ually true that. if we have had our enemies like every other [•olitieal jiarty. we have lieen more assailed than any- «)tiier political party. Of our eni^mies. the one liavf» systematically slandered us: the others iiavein irood faith calumniated us. jioth have reiiresented us a.s ON* I .MITIiAI, I.II'.F.IIAI.lSM »^ |>njtV\a3iiiL; iliii triiicH. \\\v cfrt'i l nl' w hicli. t'oro.ii'on tind calciihiti'il liy ^f'liic III' us. imt rnic^fccii l)y. liiit futai lor till' otlior?!. Willi 1(1 lie tin- nvi'i'tlirow ol' iiur sufit'ty, the ifvoluliiiii witli Jill its Imirors. Ti> ic'|ily to these ( li;ir;^('-i iUlll III (Iclcnd (lUr pnsilinn is (he oliji'Ct nl tiio di'iii'iiir^tratiou nt'tliis cvciiiiii: (Hgiiiii/cd hy the Chih Cmi'llir II. Tit iiiv mind, the iiri-;t flli 'acioiH, thi^ only way, in uk t. to lU'lcat thi-.-^c ( hai'iio.-i, to dclV-nd our idea.s and |irini'i|de.«. is to maUe ihcni l<ii()wn. ^'(•s, I am coiivinifd that tiic cxiiosuif aloiic of our urin- ciplo? w ill lie thf'ir h(Ht and nio.-it eloquent apology. .\Md when wc'^hall iia ve maile ourselve-' l<no\vn as weave, when we shall have made known our prineiides as they aie. uc shall have grained. I lielieve. a ilouhle |ioiiit. The first will he to rally to our side all the irioihls 111' lihiTty. all those, who, before lS;'i7 or after it. laliored to r-erure for us respon.sihle government, '-ntvernmi'n of the people hy the people, and who, on I . • esi.iliji-hment of tliat foiiii of government, sepa- 1. led iri'in usthrouoh fear that we were in reality what w«' were lepreseated to he. and thai the reali- xation ol the ideas a'crihed to us would lead ^i the destrncliiii of the government which they had had so much trouhli- in estaiili shing. Theseeoud i)oint will lie to force our real ene;ni<'s. all who at hottom are enemies nioreor less di-guised ol' liherty,lo no longer jipjieal against us to prejudices and fear, out to come forward franlJy as wcdoiiefore the people with their ideas an<l their acts, .\nd when the tight tak(>s place on the grountl of ])ur>' (pM'stion-i ol prineiph', when acts are judged iuii'rding 'o thetlior.Liht s Ly which they are inspired, when people v.ill h<! im longer afraid to aecepl the good and reject the had ntidei' the ini])Vcs.''ion thi'. in accepting the oiic and rejecting the other, strength will he only given to a party of perverse; doctrine- and dangerous tendencies, it matters little to moon which ?ide vietmy will then perch. When T state tlia| it jnatttrs little to nie on which side victory will perch, 54 SPEECH I (1(» not Tiicjin to say that I am indifferent to the result of th(j struj^'gle. I mean this: if tlie struj^gle turns against us, tlie opinion expressed will be tlie free expression of tlie ])euple; hut I am convincei that a day will come when our idevs, planted in the soil, will gerndnate and bear fruit, if the seed is sound and just. Yes, I am cooiident. I am certain th;il if our ideas are just, as 1 I)elieve they are. il'they are an emanation of tlie eternal and immutal)le truth, as T believe they are. they will not perish ; they niiiy bo rejected, reviled. [)cr.secutcd, but a day will come when they will gornnnate. spring up and gr.iw. as soon as the 6un shall have <l()ne its work and prepared tlw ground. T have already noted some of the charges made against us: \ shall return to thesul>ject, lu it is the most important point. All tlie charges made against, us all the objections to our doctrines, may lie crystnllized into the t'ollnwing ]n"op(. itions : I- fiilieralism is .a new form of error, a heresy jilrendy virtually con- demned by the head of the Church: 2- A ("atholic cannot be a Liberal. This is what our adversaries proclaim. .Mr. l*i'(!sident, all who honor nu; witli their att(Mitir)n at this moment wil I do me the justice of r(!cogui/ing that I put tlic (juestion as it is and that T exaggerate nothing. All will do me tlie justice of admitting that 1 reproduce faitlit'uily the re))roa.ciies wliicli are day after day east up to u=!. .Ml will acknowledge that it is well and truly tiie language <»!'the Conservative press. 1 know that ("atholic fiilieralisni has been con- demned by the bead of the Church. Hut T will bo i> kcd : what is Catholic Lilieralism? On thethreshold of this (luestion [ stop. This tpiestion does not come ■within the ))urview of my subject : moreovor, it is not ol' my competence. Hut T know and T say that Catho- lic laberaiism is not political Liberalism. If it were tiiictliat the ecclesiastical censures hurled against Catholic LilieraJism should also apjtly lO political ON I'dMTiCAr. mri:::am^>m ••>o Liliorali-'!!! thi-s t';ir't would constitute for u=i. French It^v oriLfin iinil Catholics liy relijfion ii state ol'tliinjis. t]»e f'on-e(in(M!i'0'S ofwiiicli wnuld In- as strange us tlioy wouM lio painful. In tact. we. French ("anadians, are a (Mni(|uorod race. Till-? i^ a nu'lauchuly truth to utter, init it is the tnUh. I'nt. it" we are a coniiuered rane. we liavri «l?o made a mniue-t: the c(iii(|ue,st of lilierty. We an; a tree people ; wo are a nunority. Init we have retained all our rights ami all our privilege-*. Now. what is the eause to which we owe this lilierty? It is the ciin.atitu;ion which was eoiKiuercd hy our tor'>- i'athers and whi<'h we enjoy to day. W'e have a eon- Htitution which ha'sos the gov(>rnnient on the .atiffragft of tlie citi/.ens and which was granted to us tor our own protection. We have not inon; rights or more ]»rivileges, hut we have as many rights and as many lirivilege-^ as the other elements, which go to make up the Cnnailian t'amily. Ihit it nui-^t not he {'(UMzotten that the other members nf the Canadian faiinly are divided into two parties, the jdlieral jiaity and the Conserv.ati vr [uirty . Xjw, if we. who are Catholics, are not to have the right to have oui' /'references, if we are not to have the right to Itelong to the Lilieral party, one of two things must hapjien. either we would lie ohliged to ah-tain eompletely t'roai taking auy share in the managenumt of theairairs of t!ie State and then, th,; cou-titiilion — that constitution which was granted to us for our own i>rotection — would he no longer in our Inmds only a dea<l letter: or we would he ohliged to take a i>art in the management of tlu^ afTiurs of the State vnider the direction and to the profit of the Conservative! party ;iii I then, our action heing no longer tree, the constitution wouhl again he in our liands a dead letter and w(> would in a<ldition have th(^ ignotniny of heing reiiarded l>y the other mem hers of the Camxdian t'amily composing the. Coiiscrva'iv(> party a-* too's and slaves. \h) i.ot these ao;^ur.l consequences, the strict aucu- 56 .si'Ei:( 11 Yiicy 'if wliicli noliody can (iiU'Stinii. cdncln-ivol y f]u)\\ how fiili^c i.j the ai^KortidU tliat a Catholii cannot lieloiiji to the liihcial party ? t^iiuc I'loviilcuce has uiiitfl together on tliis corner « 'I' (>;irth iiopulalions of dilTcrent oriLiinn aiul cret^drf, is it not inanile.st tliat tliedc |ioiiuhitioi;.* must luive tojrether conuiion ami i(U'ntioal inlfrc^t^ and that, ill all that atTccts tiicsc intcre^ln. each one is tree to I'ollow either tiie l.iheral party or the CoiiHer- vutive i)arty, according,' to the dictates of his cnn- dcienee ? For niy part, 1 lieloni: to tlie hihcrjl jiarty. Tl' it l)e \vr<ii p; to he n l.ihcral, T accept the r(>proa<h : il'it lie a crime to he 1-iheral, tiicn 1 am ;:uilty ol'it. Fur my jiart, T only ask one thinp — that we he jiid<red acc<»rdinji to our principles. T would he ashamefl of our jirineiples, if we were ai'raid to <rivc csprcssion to them and our cause would not he worth the etforta for its triumiih. if the iiest way to secure that triumph was to conceal its nature. The Liheral party lias lieen for twentyfive years in Oppofition and let it remain there for twenty -live years more, if the jitoplo has not yet heen edut'ated up to acce[)ting its ideas, but let it march ]>roudly with its hanners displayed, in the lull faceoftlu^ country! J^'fore all. Imwever, it is imjiortaut to ( ome to an understanding upon the meaninu'. value and hearing ot'the word " Fiiicral "' and that uthcr word "■ Coii.-ei- vative. " I niaintjiin that there is not one; tliinji' less under- stood iu thiscountry hy itsa.«sailaiits than 1-iheralisiu sind there are several reasons for this. Tt is only yesterday that we w('re iriitialed into representative institutions. The Kngli^h c^lcuHMit understand the working of these institution in some way hy instinct, as well as hy lo i^ I'Xpcrieiice. On the otiier hand, our jieople hardly understand them yet. Education is only heiiimiing to sjiread amonji^-t us and. in the ca«e of the educated, our l-'rench educa- tion leads us naturally to study the history of modern t,>N I'OI.M'I- AI. MIlKK \1.IS\I 67 lil)t'rtj', not in tlio <l;is«io laml f)f Hlicrty not in tlio liistory ofolii l*]r,iil;iii(l. l»ut juimng the |i('()|il(\'i of the fontnu'ut (it r.ni'ii|ic. of tilt' (•iiiiu! uiijfin an I taitli iis <iur?('lv('>-. And ilin«'. unl'ortiiiiiitclv. tin' lii^tniv of lilicrty lias liccn w littii most iiaiTou in<,' |iap< - u I >n h'ltcri iIiiimI on tl le liicli till' annuln of t lie liuniim race, iiorhaps. mtain. Tn all I'las-^ of oihicatoil socioty may 1)( i^ccn loyal .souls, who. iViiriitencd hy tlicsp mournful ))aj.;o.<. regard with tcrrtir the fpirit of lil'crty. inia^iiiiiiLf that it mu-l lu'oducc iioro th<'sani(! difiastcr.s and ihc :-anit' crinu'H as in the countries T havt'ju?l rcfeiTod !<>. In 1 ho eyes of such well meaning people, the very word " Lii>eralism " is fiaUL'ht with national calamity. Without lilaming altnjrether tho>e tears, liut without allow iiii: ourselves to hi' fri<ilitened l-y them, let us go hack to the fountain head it.~elf and calmly examine wliat i.s at the Itottom of those two words : Ijluriil. I'niixn-rntirr ! M'jiat idea is hidden under this word l.ihrnil that it .should hav(> ealled dow n upon us so nianv anathemas! What idea is hidden under the wor* 1 I iilisri ciiliiv that it ^llou!d he modestly applied to everythin*: that is good '.^ Ts tlie one. as is pretended and. in fact, asserted every day. the exprfssioii of a new form of error ' Is the other, as it ,«eenjs to he constantly insinuated, the delinition of good under all its aspi'cts? Doe.- the one mean revolt, aiiarchv. di>oi(h'r. and is the othor the onlv stahle prnioiiile ot soeiety Tl lese are <|Ucstioiis whieh people are juntiiig to themselv dailv in our tiouiitrv Tl lese iht: e distiiutn which are enii^tantlv appoariiijj; in our pre-^s. are nevertheless not new. They are on' V the rejietition of the fuicies of cert, tin reneli writer- wiiose hori/.oii b lioumlcd hv the narrow limits of (heir sanctums and w ho. only looking to the ])ast. liilti-rly critiei/e everything existing in the present foi' the 'iniplp reason that nothing now existing re-^emhlcs anything that existed formely. These writers proclaim that the l.iheral idea is a, new idea, Ijut thev are mistaken. Tiie Llherul idea 68 STEEtH is IK) nv)vo a now iiloa thiui is the cuntrary iilea. Tt is as old as tin- world nnd is found writti.Mi on every [nVft^c III' the world s history. Init it is only in our day-* that wo have come tn know its force unci its law and to understand how to utilize it. Steam existed hefore Fulton. Init it ha-* only been since Fulton that we Inive !farnt;d all the extent of its power and how to make it i)rodue(' its marvellous etTi'cts. The coml)i- nation ol the tul)e and piston is the instrument by which we utilize steam and the system of represen- tative tiovernnu'nts is the instrument whii-h has revealed to the w<irhl tlie two principles, Lilieral and Conservative, and by which we uet from that form of government ail its effects. Upon any .-.ulijccl whatever, within the ranj^e of luiniun tlnn;i;s. the truth does not manifest itself eijually to all intellects. There are some whose gaze Itierce-i further into the unkmtwn. Imt takes in less at a time; there are others? whose gaze, even if it lie less ])enetrating. perceives more clearly within the s|)h('re ■which it enihraces. This primordial distinction at once explains to a certain extent the Lil)eral idea and the Const'rvHtive idea. For this sole reaso i. the same ol)ject will not be seen under the same asj)ect by diffe- rent eyes : for this sole reason, the one will take a route which the others will avoid. althou.Lih both j>roi)ose to arrive at tin? same end. lUit there is a conclusive reason which clearly explains the nature ami the why and the where'ore ot'the two ditrerent vd(\'H. Macaulay. in his history of Ilngland. sets forth this reason with admirable (^learne-^s. Speaking of the meeting ol' the llous(!S I'or the second scs-iion of the Long Parliament (1), tlie great historian sav^: Frnm t!i;it day dat'-'s tlio corporate existi-iic.' of tlic two griMt )i;n ties wliicii !ia\e ever since aiti'niately govonie I tin' couiitry. hi one scii-ie. indeed, tht* ilistiiiction wliich tln-n became ol)vioiH liad al\vay-; existt^d n.nd abv.ays inu>t exist ; for it has its ori^'in in 'hversiti?s ofteineer, ot mi'lerstanding, (1| If. .^l ■,■,/<'/ I'-n^ldiiil ?.Iar.iii':.iy, Vi'l. I. tiN roiITlfM I.irERAI.IsM 59 nn«l of intoipst, wliicli nre f'^iiTvl in all socio ios ami wViicIi will l)H ibmul until tlu^ Ihiuhui ininU'i':i-.<>s lo lit'(lra\\n in opposite directions l.y tli<^ oliarjii ot'liiiMt aii<l li,\' tin- cli irni ot novi'lty. Not only in jiolitiLS, lait in liteiiituif. in iirt, m soionct', in Rurv'Piy ami nn'clianii's. in nuviijalion ami a,;i'ieultuiv, nay, even in niatlieniatios, we timl tlii>< ilistim-tion. Kvt^rywhoro tlit're is a c'.afir> ot men xvlio cling 'a itli l<>ii(ln''ss to wliatevor is nnf'ipnt ani win, evon wiien convince I by ovcrpowofinj; rea-ons that inm>vation wotiM be hi.'ni'licial, constMit to it with many misgivings an'! luiclioi lings. NN'i' tin I also every wlier>i anotliei- class ot inen sangninc in hope. boM in speculation, alwiys jiiessnig I'nwai'ii, (I'licU to iliscvrn tlie inipcitection of wli it(?ver exist-. <lispo«ieii to tliink li'_'litl\ of the risk^ an'l iiieonvcnieuci's wiiieh alt mi 1 iiapri}\eia 'nt^ airl ijispose I to ^Mve every changt* ere. lit for l)eing an iuijiroveiiieiit. Tlif former arc tiie Consoiviitivo.^ : tiie latter jiro tlie I.iix'raJH. Ih-rc you have tlio real iiieaninfx. the true exiihmation. of ilie Mlieral priiiciijle. 'riiey are twoattriluites of our nature. As .Macaulay ailiiiirably expresses it. thoy are to lie fouml (;v<>iy whore : in the ju't.H, ill the seiciicivs and in all tlie hranehe-i niien to liuiiiau .speeulatiou : hut it is in polities that thay are most apiiareiit. C'liii.seijueiitly. those wiio coiuleiun f-iheralisni a.s a new iilea have not relleeteil ujiou what is transpirin,Lf every day unihM- their eyes. Tln'se who condeiiin Liberalisiii as an error liave imt reih-eted that, in ,st) (loin,<:\ tiiev eondemn an attrihute of human nature. Now. it .should n.)t he overlooked that our form of goveniinent is a re[iresent:itive monarchy. This is the instrument which throws into reliel' and hrin.L'.s int(» iiniinii the two principles, Liberal and Conservative. We. Liberals, nre often accused of being Uepublieans. 1 do not note this reproacli for the i>urpose of takin<:; it up. t'or it is not worth takinj; up. I merely state; that the form matters little: whether it bo monarchi- cal or republican, the moment the people exercise the viji'ht tu vot •, the moment they have a resiionsiblo governnicnt. they have the full iicasure o| liberty. {?till, liberty v.'ould Mton he nn nmre than an empty BO M'KECII iiiuiit!. if it Ifl'i without cniitrol tliuso who linvc tho <lir('(ti<.ii of jxtwcr. A niiiii. wliosc astoiiisliint;s!i]ir.'i- • ity hiis ronuiil;it('<| the axiiniis nl' ^ovt'i'iiincntiil science witii uitih'vialiii;^ ticcmiicy. .luiiiii-^. Iiiis said: "Internal vi;;il.iii(t' !?» the in'ifoof lihort y." \c>. ila iMMiplc w iiut to remain li cc. thoy must \\Uv Ar;;us liavn a iiuiuhi'il cyc-^ ;in(l he alwaysoii thi' ah-rl. Il'thcv sluiiiher. or relax, raih iiionicMt ol' iudohiici- hiscg tiicni a |iarticit' III' their rights. Eternal vLcihuice is the |iriee which they have to pny I'ltr the prieelesd l)oon III' liherfy. Now, the I'orni ol" a reiiresmlative nionaiehy lends it-elf marvellously — n.uoh nior(>, jx-rhaps than the iei)ulilican I'ovni — to th(M'xei'cise of this necessary vi>^ilance. On tlie oniMiand. you hav(! those who .uovern and, on the oih(>r. those who watch. On tile o'le hand, you hav(! those who art; in power ami have an interest in I'eniainin^ th(!r(i. and, on tho other, those who hav(! an interest in jfcttinfj; tiieie. What irt the lioiid ol'eohosion to unite each individual of the diU'erent jjjvoiips 7 Whati^tlie principle, tho t«entinient.io ran^e thesi! diverse elements of the popu- lation either anionji tliose who govern or tlune who watch? It is the Fiiheral principle or tho Conserva- tive pritici[ile. Vou will see to^'cthcr tho-e who are attracted liy the charni of novelty and y mi will see together tho^e who are attracted liy the charm of hahil. You will see to^etlur those wixiare attadied to all that is ancient and yon will .see to;;-clher those who are always disposed to rclnrm. Now.f ask : hetween these two ideas which consti- tute the hasis of parties, can llicre he a nioinl diffo- renee ? Is the one radically uood and the other radi- «'ally l)ad ? Is it not evident that both are what are termed in nioral plulosophy iii'lij/rrruls. that is tu say, that lioth are susecjitilile of heiuji; approciiiied. pon- dered and chosen ? Would it not it he as untuir as it would he alisurd to condemn or to approve either the one or the other a^ ahscdutely l)ad or <j;ood ? Jjoth are f-usce|)tii>le of nuicii good, us they are also of much evil. The Conservative, who det'ends his (IN ■•■■ir.fTICAI, I Il'.nit AI.ISM 61 nniiif rv'^' I'M ii;«titutinn3 tiiiiy do imuli u'immI. w ho iilsd nijiy (In iiiiicli evil, if lie Ik' i)|p.sliii;itt' in in a in til ill- ill;,' iiliiiscs. wliiih !i;,vc lif'coiiH' int'ilcriililo. Tlu» Lil(l:il. W !|ii riMilclKi- !l>filill.*t tlm?(' illlllS(*3 !I1m1 wlin, nl'tor jon^' ilTnrt?!. i^ncoccdH in cxtirpiitiiifr tliciii, nniy ])<• ;i iHiMic liciii't'intiir. just iiytlir LilK'i'iil wlidliiysa rnsli Imnd oil liiilinwcd institution-' nuiy lie a S( ourjre not omIv Inr liis own (nuntry. Iiiit for liniunnily at ( 'citiiinly. 1 am far fiom idiiniiii;^: my jidvcrsaries for tlicir coiivii'tioiis. liut lor my i)art. a." I liavc al- ready .-aid. T am a Ij'licral. I am one of tlio>e wim tliink that rvcrywhcic in human tliin;is. then- are ahn«oa to ho rofoniM'd. new hori/on.i to l>e opciHMl uj). and ni'W force- to he dovelopefl. Morcvcr. Lilicralism seems to me in all ve-^iiect-" puperior to tlie other prineiiile. Tlio principle of l.i- heralipni is inherent to the very essence of ournature, to that (h'sire of happiness with whicli we are all l»(^rninto the world, which pursues us tlirou}:ln.ut life and which is never completely frratified on this fide of the <:rave. Our souls are immortal, hut our niean.s nre limited. We coui-tantly pravitate towards an ideal vliich we never attain \\'e dream of ti'ood. Imt we never realize the hest. V/e only reach the jroal we have ])rop(iseil to ourselves, to discover new hori/ons opening' up. which we had not hefore even suspected. ^Ve ru.sh on towards them and those hori/ons. ex- pIor(>d in their turn, reveal to us others which lead us on ever further and further. And thus it will lie as long as man is what he is, as lon<j; as the immortal soul inhahits a mortal hody; hisilesirej will he always vaster than his means and his actions will mn'cr rise to the heiifht of his concep- tions. He is the real Sysiphus of th(> fahle: his work always tinislicil has always to licheiiun over auniri. This condition of our nature is precisely what make.s tlie f^rcatness of man. for it condemns him irrevocaMy to movement, to ]iroLrress : our meansare limited, but our nature is perl'ectihle and we have the Ml't;i;< II iiilinite lor uiir arcn.i. Tliu?. tlieie is iilways room Inr iin|irnvem«-'nt iif nur cnnditinn. fitr tlio [ttTfectiiiK ot' .)ur naturt'. 1111(1 fur tlic iittiiiniucnt I>y i\ lar;:t'r muu- Ikt nliiii ca.-ier lilc. Here utrain is what, in my oycn, cunstitules tlic siipcridrity nt' liilxTaliHiu. [ii addition, cxpciit'iicc iuvs u-italili.siioil that insfusiljly. impcicoptihlv, aliUPcs will ficei* into tho hody social and end hy sciituisly (d>.slru<ting its upward march, it' not »Midanjr«'rinK itn existence. Experience has I'luther estaldished tiiat institu- tion.s wliich, al the outset, were UHet'ul hecanse tiiey were jidai)teil to the state ol" t-ociety at the time of their introduction, often end hy hecoming intolcrahlo ahuses owing to the simple fact that everything around them has ciianged. Such was the case in our own midst with the Heigniorial tenure It is untiues- tionable that.in tlu! inl'ancy olthe colony, that system greatly facilitated tin; settlement of the soil. iJut. in lsr)0, everything had ciianged so much amongst us that the system w(»uld have eventuated in deplorahle complications, if our liCgislature. ui»on tiie initiative of the liiherals, had not ha(l the wisfhmi to alxdish it. Aa a conse(iuence of the law which T have indi- cated as the determining cause of the liil)eral ami Conservative ideas, there will he always men found, wlio will attach themselves with love to the.«e ahuses, defend tiieiii to the bitter end. and view with dis- may any attempt to suppress them. Woe to such men, if tluy do not know how to yield and adopt proposed relorms I They will draw down upon their country disturbances all the more terrible that justico sinili have lieeii long refused, liisloiy, alas I supera- bundantly show.s that very few of those who govern liave been altle to understand these asjiiralions of luimaiiity and satisfy them. Indeed, more revolu- tions have been caused by Conservative obstinacy tiian by ]iibi'ral exaggeration. The supreme art of government consists in guid- ing, directing and controHinu; tlie-e ;H{>iiations of hu- man nature. Tiic ICagiish are, in a high dt legrce, ON I'oi.iTl. \i, i.iri'.i; AI.I.-M /•■■» iiiiiatcis of tlii^ ait. I-ouk at tliowoil; of tin- great Lilxral i>iirty of l-liiulaiul I How luaiiy rcfoniH iKm it not lii'i.u^'ht aliout. how many nliu«f^ ( .n rei toil, witliout fliock. (listurhani'paiid vioh-nct' ! rndrrstaud- injjr tlic as]iii'atii>ns ot' the oiipii'.sscd and tlic new wjintf created l>y new sit uation.H. it has eanied o\it. under the sanction of tiie hiw and witiinut other aid tlian tlie law a s^erieis of ret'orius whieli lijis made the Kngiisii jieojde the froest peojije and the most pros- peror.H an<l lin|)py of Europe. On tlie other hand. ht(d< at the tontincntal yov- fmment.sl Tlie most of tiiem have never heen aide to jfrasp th( se asjjirations of their i»eople.s. No sooner do the .sutferers raise their liejids to catch a few lireaths of air and of freedom, than they arc hrutally cruslnd lia( 1\ ajiain into a circle which is ever f^rowinj: more and more hermetically restricted. lint the day comes wlicn the «d)stacles are pliiveriMl to pieces, when these peoples i)real< forth from there i)araly/injj; restraints, and. then, in the holy mime of lilierty, the most fri^ditful crimes are comnntled. fs there reason to he surpri,sed at this V Are \\v astonished when the storm clouds, roll- inir over our heads, hurst I'orth in hail and lightning? Are we surpi'isecl at thoe\plnsion of the stcam-iioiler, when the oniriri''er netjlecis to ojten the s;;fety valve and relieve it of its su| crahundant ja'cssuie? No, hecause we see in these events tlie woikir.n nt'an ine- vitahlc luw which is always attended wiih the same efT(!cts,as well in the moral as in tlio piiysical system. M'herevci' there? is eomiM'ossion, there will lie explo- sion, violence and ruin. T do not say this to excuse revolutions, ms [ hato revolutions and detest all attempts to win the triumph nf dpinions hy violence, liut T am less inclined \n .n.-t the rispon.-iliilily on those who make thorn than on th'Se wiio nvovoko them hy their hlind ohefinai'y. I s.ay tlii- to illustrate the supei'iovity i>f riihcrali-^m. which r.nlerstani!* tluv as))irati(uis ot' human natuic. ;iiid. ii ste i i of doing violence to tliem, s,ceks to^diiect them. I (11 -Ti:!:! II Wi It Ciiii it I'c Iteliovod, lor in:^t!Uu;->. tlmt— if I^iijihuul had pCTiistt!.! ill /(NiHiiiLT <MHiinc!j»ati(>n to tli«> Catho- lics ; if it hiul jtorsistcd in rct'iHinjj: the I'lilhieHS ol" thoir civil and political ri^^hl-s to ttio Catholics, tlu* Jews and the ollnn' I'ri)tt>-taat (h!no!iiin;i.ti<)iis not I'onniii;^ pirt ol" the ostaldishcd chunh ; it it had piTni-ilcd Id ki'cpiiiir the .suilVa^e limiti'd to a t-mall ri'.Mih'M" : if it liad por-istf-d in rcfiHin;,' iVci* trade in bread-lull-; il it had persisted in rei'iHinn- the riu;lit ol'suirraire to tlie working cUiiae.-" — a day wouhl not have (oiue w hen tin' peoi>le would have risen in arms to (hi tlieiii-elves thejustit'e that v.ould have heen ol)stina!el\' (h'liied toiheni? Do you tiiink that riot would not have raised its hideous hea 1 under tlib Avindows ol" W'e-tinini^ter and that the hlood ol' civil war would not have reddened the streets ol' liOiuIou, as it has so tiffin red<h'ned tlu; ,-t reets of I'ju'is ? Human nature is the same all oV(>r. and there, as clsiMvnere, compression would have [iroducivl explosion, vi(dence and ruin. These terrilde caiainities. however, were ohviated hy the initiative ol' the Uherals who. uiuler- Hlandimr the evil, proposed and applied the remedy. W'litt is grander than the history of the ureiit English Ijilieral party during the present century ? On its thrediold. looms up the ligureot" Fox, the wise, the generous Fox, (h^leiiding tiie cause of th" t>p))resaed, wherever there were oppressed to l)e del'endeil. A little later, comes O'Counell, claiming and ohtaining for his co-religionists the rights and privileges ol' JMiir'ish sul'jects. lie is hel[)ed iu this work l)y all the Liberal- ofijie liircc kingdoms, (irey, lirougham, Russell, .TetVrey and a ho-t of others. Then come, one after the other, the aliolition of the ruling oligarchy, the r(>peal of the corn laws, the extension of the sulfrage to the working (dasses. and, lastly, to crown the whole, the disestahlishntent ofthe church of !']ngland a^ the State religion iu Frtdand. And note widl : the iiiherals, who carried mit these Huei'essive reforms, were not recruited from th'} middle chis.-cs onlv, l)ut some of i'.ioir mo't eminent leadcrd t' ON POMTUAr. I.ir.EKAI.ISM 65 were vecruit(Ml from tlio ))oer!igo of Enpliind. T know of no s|M'ct!H'l(^ tliiit rclliH'ts grontcr honor on hiniiMn- nity tlum tlic spectiirle of tlie.se peer? ol' I'jicland, tlie.so rich ami ]>o\verful nohles, .stuhh<trnly tiijiilinfx to eradicate a host ol' venoral>h^ almsesanil .^acrilieinj.j their priviieuci with cahu enlliiniasin to make life easier anil h: [ipiei tor a larj^er niinibor of their fellow hetiijf.s. While (111 this hea<l. permit me to cite a letter of Macaulay"? written to one of his iVicmls on the next (lay alter the vote on the famous lioform hill, which jnU an end to the system of rollrn-boroiiiilisl\'].\\o\o it is. 1 ask p.irdnii fur making- thi.s (piotation, as it is somewhat lon^f : Sucii 11 sc»Mie ;is till' ilivi.-iioii ol' lust 'riU'siiiiy I never .'<a»v, iiml never ex[M>('r to >ec niiiin. II I >lioiiiiI live lilly yeai-:. the iiupie.ssioii of it will !)(> as tresli iind sliai'i in my initui as if it liad Just taken place. It was like seeing ('ies.ir .■.tal>l>ed in the .'^oiiatelKHise, or M'oiiij.' I Hiver takiiii: the inaci- from tlie talile , a .sii:lit to \n' >eeii only once, and never la \>c t'oi-^otteii. The ei-owil oveitlowed tlie House in every jiait. When the strangers wi-re eleared out. and the doors loelieti. wt; had six Imniredand eight nienihers prescMit — more liy tilty-tive than evei' were on a division hetore. Tin' ayes and noes were lik(« two volleys of eaiuiou from opinwite siili's <il a field of hattle. AVheii the Ojiiiosition went out into the lohhy. an opeiutiou which took up twenty minutes or more, we spread ourselves DVi.'r the benches on liolli sides of the House ; tor thei'e wer«» many ol' us wiio had not lieeii alile to find a seat during the evening. When the doors were shut we liegan to speculate on our nuni'x'rs. Kveiyhody was (h'sponding. •• We have lost it. We are only two hundred and eighty at most. 1 do not think we aie two hundreil and til'ty. 'fhey are three hundieil. Alderman 'fhompsou has counted them. He says lliey are two hmnlred and ninety-nine. " This was tlie talk on our lieiu'hes. Tiie House, when only the ;iye> were in it, looked tome a very fair Ilouse — nnich taller th;ni it generally is even on dehattis of coiisidi'iahle int<'\est. 1 had no lioiie, iiowever, of three hundred. .\s the tellers passi'd along our lowest roxv on the leftdiand side the interest was insnppo: talile — two hundreil and ninety-one — tv.o hundred and ninety two — wo were all standing up and stretching forwanl, ttdling with the tehers. .\t thiee hundred theie was a short cry ot joy at [IJ The I, iff mill l.ttli ixuf Lmd MnrniiUty , l>v Trcveljaii. 66 .-i ijEt II tliK'c Imuilic'cl iuiil two anntlii"! — iiiiijif-M',!. Uomivit, in a iuf)iii<-iit, Inr uc ili.l not yd Iviinw wliat the ho.-tilv l'>ii(' ini^lit hf. W'f kixw, lirA\('vir. that wf (caiM iiut hi' sexoroly ht-atfii. Thi' >l()r.is were tliiowii ni'd), iiml in llicy cainc. Ilach of tht. in, i4s hf i-nli'it*i|. hiniiL'ht -oinc liUlLMent icjioit ol' their iiiiinho! ,-. It iiiii^t liave h»'<ii in>iio.-sililc. as yoi; may coiiteivi.', in tiiu lohhy, ci'owdid ii^ tin y •.ivrc, to t'oiin any exact ostimato. Fii.-t we lieai'l that tlu-y wcya tliicc hinnhi'd ami tliiir: tlicn that nunil'fr lo-c to tlnci' innichc d aiul ten : tln-n went (h'wn to thu'f hnn(hi(l and .>^<'\ en. \\ C wiif all hicalhhss with anxiety, wlien ( harlcs Wood, who i-tood near the door. jiiinj'0(l up oji a licni'h and ci iid (lilt, ''Tht y aiconly thiic hundied and one. " We set n|i a -liont that yon niii-'lit lia\-e heard toCliariii!: < 'mss, wavin;; onr hats, staiiipin;^ a^rainst liie tloor, and eia|i|iin;z one liaiids. 'i'ho tellers sei.riely ^ot thion^di the eiowd ; for tlio House was thion<r<<l u\< l<i the tahlc, and all the tlooi- was tlnctuatiii;.' with heads like the jiit of a theatie. I'.nt >on nii^'iit have heard a ]iin du)]! as Duneannnn k ad the nuniheis. Then a^'ain ihe >houts hroke out, and niaii\ ol' us shed teal'-. I coidd s( areely leliain. And the jaw oll'efl teil : and tiio face of'l'wi's was !is the laee of adanimd soul: and llriries looke<l hke .Iuda-< taking' his neck tie olt Tor the la.-t ojieiation. We shoiik hamls, and chijijied each otliii on the Lack, .uid went nut lau<.'hiiij.', ciyin.L'. and lui/zain^:r nito the lohhy. And lio .-ooner weie the outer 'loois ojiened th.in another .-hoiit answered that within the ilou.-o. Ail the ]ia>-a.L'e>h and the stairs into the waitiiiu' rnum-^ wei'i- tinoniied hy jjeojile who had waited till I'lur in tlie nioming to know tiic is^iie. We jiossed throu;:ii a narrow lane lietween two thick masses ot them ; and all the w;iy down they weie shoutinj.' aiul waving their iiats, till we got into ihe ojien ail'. I called a cahriolot. aiiil tlio (list thing the driver a-ke<l was. " Is the hill carried '.' '' " Yes. liy one. "' " Thank (iod inr it, sir ! " And Maraulay con- cludes with a senteiici' r-troiigly indicativt'ol the Lilnral : •• .Xnd so ended a >cene which will ]irolial.ly in-ver he eiiii«led till tlie ri foruK <I rarii.'iu.ent wants refrniiiini.'. '' I The man. wlm wrote in these (lueiy toini.^, li:ifl ju.st ecim? fioiv, vntiii,;- the MimlitiiMi (d lhe>;ystem l:)y virtue of wliieh he lieltl liis own pent. jNIaeaulay owed his Foat to the jicnerosity of an Kiigli.«h peer, Lord I.ansdowne. who liad him letiuiied for the rolirn (loroiii-ih id' Cahie. I know of few jiaues that (h) mote lionor to humanity thieu thi.s .^^imple h'lter which o\ Poi.rrrcAi, i.inKRAi.TSM 67 sliows u? tli('=o Knfrlisl) nature?, calm Imt !=toa<lfa;'t in the light and only kindling into emotion when tho huttle bus hoen won, hecause an aet of justice has heen accomiili.'^hed and an ahuMC uprooted from tho soil o[' old Knghind. Members ol" tiie '/(//; ('aiintlicii. Liberals of tho |trovince of Quebec, there are our models ! there are our princiiilcH I there is our ]iarty ! It is true that there is in Europe, in France, iu Ttaly and in (iermany. a class of men. who jjivo themselves tlie title of [liberals. l>ut who have nothing of the [.iberal aliout them but the name and win) avo the mo.-t dangerous of men. These are not Liberals ; they are revolutionaries ; in their ))rineii)les they are so extravagant that they aim at nothing less than tho de.-;truetioii of modern society. With these men, we have nothing in common : but it is the ta'tic of our adversaries to always ai-similate us to them. Such accusations are beneath our notice an<l tlie only ftfiswer we can with dignity give them is to proclaim our real )irificii)les and to so conduct ourselves that our acts will conform with our principles. Now. at this stage of my discourse. T shall review the history of the Lilieral jiarty of Ibis country. I nm one of those who do not fear to scrutinize the history of my party. T am one of those who think there is more to be gained by frankly stating tho truth than by trying to deceive ourselves and others. Let us have the courage to tell the truth I If our paity lias committed mistakes, our denials will not change matters ; moreover, if our )iarty has committed faults, we shall always lind in the other jiarty enough of faults to balance ours. and. even if the other party were immaculate, our princi[)ie3 would not. t'or that reason, lie either better or worse. Let us have the courage to tell the truth and let it })revent us from lulling into tlie same faidts in the future I l)uwn to 18-lS, all the French Canadians were of but oric party, the fiiberal party, The Conser- vative or rather the Tory paity, as it was culled, only 't I 68 sPEEnr i!! rojuTs^pntcfl n I'ochle minority. J>ut. IVdiii IS-IS. dato tlie lir.-;t liact'ri dl' the iwo parties, wliich have since (li.si)utc(l power. Mr. Fiat'ontaine iiad nct'opled tl>e readme e.stahli.shod in 1841. Wlien Mr. Papineau returned from exile, he as.sailed the new order uf things with liis ;j;reat elo(|Uence and all his elevation of mind. I shall not here undertake to enter into a criticism of the respective policies of these two Lireat men. Jioth loved their country ardently, passiona- tely; both had devoted to it tlieir lives; hoth. in dilferent ways, had no other ambition than to serve it ; and both were pure and disinterested. Let us be content with these souvenirs, without seeking which of the two was right and which wrong I There was at this time a generation of young men of great talent and still greater imi)etuosity of cha- racter. Disappointed at having come on the scene too late to stake their heads during the events of 1S,'57, they threw themselves with blind alacrity into the political movement of the day. They were among the foremost ol' Mr. Lafontaine's partisans in his glo- rious struggle against Lord Metcalf. They afterwards abandoned him for the more advan( ed ])olicy of Mr. Papineau, and, though taking their jdaces among his following, as was natural, they soon went beyond iiim. Emboldened by their suece.?s and carried away by their enthusiasm, they one day founded l.'Avcniv in Avhich they jiosed as relbrmers and regenerators of their country. Not satisfied with attacking the poli- tical situation, they holdly attacked the social situa- tion. They issued a i)rogramme containing not less than twenty-ouj articles commencing with the election of justices of the i)eace and ending with annexation to the United-States, and, taken as a whole, ])ractically amounting to a complete revolution of the province. If, by +he wave of some magic wand, the twenty one arti- cles of tins programme bad been realized in a single night, tlie country in the morning would have been no longer recognizable, and the per.=on, who should have I :i ON PoMTICAl, I.IHKliAI.I.SM 69 IfU it till- i'V(nin<r l»ol'i)re :iik1 voturnctl tlio next day, would not have Unowu where lie wa;?. The only excuse lor these Lilieval? was tlieir youth. The iihh'st ol'lheiii way uot nii)re than twenty- two years o|' iitre. (ienthMiK'n, I am stalinir Tact?. T have no hitention of rci)ro;iehinLi' ;iny one. T. dent and sincei'(> convie- tiona are entith'(l to respect. .Moreover, who i,^ the one amongst II??, who. it he had l)een living at that time, eould thitter himseir that he would have heen wiser and that he would not have fallen into tln^same mistake.^ ? ICverything wns t'avoral)le to sucii exagge- rations : the situation of our own country and the situation in lMiro[ie. The wound.s of the country from the insurrection were not yet healed : we had heen granted, it is true, a free conatitution. hut the new constitution was not being aiti>lieil in good I'aith hy tin; Colonial Ollice. There was at the bottom of every soul a discontented spirit, which was alone kept down hy the recollection ot' the vengeance for which the insurrection had furnished the op{)ortunity. Moreover, from all sides, the ellluvia ol" democracy ami revolt came pouring in \ipon u^. Soci<;ty was already shivering in the iirst bla.-ts ol'that great storm. which was to break i'orth a few years later over the whole civilized w(U'ld and which !'or a moment caused society to stagger. The years preceding ISlSure frightful to contemplate. One t'eels a thrill of Imu'ir at the contemplation of the sinister work which was being everywhere <lone and which atone time drew into revolt upwards of eiglity millions of men. This stnte of things naturally made a powerful iniprei^sion on young, ardent ;ind incxjjcrienced ima- ginations, and. not satisfied with wanting to revo''i- tioni/e their own country, our young reformers greeted with transpiu'ts each fresh revolution in Europe. However, hardly had they taken two steps in life, when they perceived their immense error. Tn 70 srEKcii 18.''2. tlioy brouirlit out iinotlier ncnv^^papcr. Tlicy ubundoiKMl l.'Ai'cnir to the doiiiiij^oguen .'incl soujrlit in a new paper. /.'■ Pai/s — witlioiit.liuwovcr. linding it, it is true — the n<'\v path wliich shouhl lie f(tlh)\veil hy tiie t'riend.s of liberty under the new eniistitutlon. C)np cannot help sniilint;; to-day on reading over iignin LWvriiir's ju-ograninie ; on(^ eaniiol help pniiling iit linding. mixed up with so much good ;-'en-ie occa- pionally, so many al)surd or im[)ossihle proposition'^. It would he tirosomo to review one; liy one all the ineongrui)U3 pniimsilions which l.'Avrnir\s pro- gramnie eout;iined. I .shall take one at random : Annual I'arliament.-^. f am satisfied that each oi'the young lieformers of that day, who is to-day in Parlia- ment, is (irmly convinced that an elei-tion ('very live years is ,.quite sullioient. And morfcov(>r i.s it not obvious that annual Parliaments would be a con- stant obstacle to all serious le.t;islation and a perma- nent source ol' agitation ? Still, the harm was done. Th(> clergy, alarmed at these proceedings uhich renunrled them of the rovolutioiiaries of Euro})e. at once declared merciless war on the new party. The English population, friend- ly tr» liberty, but also friendly to the m:nnteiiaiice of (U'der.also ranged themselves against the new party. and during twenty-five years that ixirty iia.si'emained in Opposition, although to it belongs the jionor of liaving taken the initiative in all the reforms a<'coni- j)lishe(! tluring that ])eriod. Tt was in vahi that it demanded and obtained the abolition of the seignio- rial tenure: it was in vain that it demanded and olitainod judicial decentralization, and it was in vain tiiat it was the first to uive an impetus to the work of <'oloni/ation ; it was not credited with the.se wise reforms ; it wa.s in vain that those cliildr(>n. now grown into men, disavowed the rashness of their youth; it was in vain that the Conservative i>arty made mistake after mistake: the generation of the l.i'oerals of 1>^4.S ]iad almost entirefy disappeared from tlie iiolitical scene ere the dawn of a new dav ON I'Ol.ITIc AI. i.inEn.M.i-M 71 befran ti> l>!'i\ik fur (iic LilxTnl )):irty. f^inco liiai time, the jiarty has rocrivel now afcf-i-iifiiis, caliiu.'r jiml luure tlmuglitriil iiloa-^ have prevaileil in it; and, a^ for the old pr-Jirraiuine. nothing whatever reMiain3 of its soi'ial part, while, <»ftiie |).i!itieal pnrt. there only remain the princii)le-i ofUin Eni;]i^|i l,il)(>ral liiirty. HurinLT all this time, what wa^ the other party doinii ? When tlie <\>\h between Mr. l'a[)inean and !Mr. Lifoiitaine lieeanie complete, the fraet on of ti>e J^'.hei'al pai'ty, who t'ollowed Mr. l/ifontaine, wound ¥i). at'ter .■some Liropinii', liy nllyin.fr them-elves with the Tories of Upper Canada, and then, to the title of Lihertil which they could not or dared not yet avow, they added that oi' ( 'onservative. The new party took the name ol' l-ilnu'al-t 'on.-ervative. Some years elapsed and t'ro«h mndiiicntion.s ensued. 1 know no lonj^er Viy what name we call this jnirty. Those who to- lay Feem to occupy leadinfx podtion-; in it will call them- eelves the ritiamontane [)aity, the Catholi ; party. Its jjrinciples. like its name, have heen niodilied. If Mr. Cartier were to come l>aek to the earth to- lay, he ■\vo\ild not reeopnize his jtarty. Mr. ("arLicr wad devoted to the principles of the Kn<;lish constitution. Tiiose who to-day take the lead amon<r his old ])arti- pans openly reject the iirineiples of the ICn^lish con- ftitntion as a concession to what tiiey term the .sjjirit of evil. They understand neither their country, nor their time. Ad their ideas are modelled on tht>se of the veactioni<ts of France. They l'o into ecstacies over Don ( 'arlos or tlu; Conite de ("handiord just a.s the Liherals admired I/)uis Diane and h'nlru- Rollin. They r;hout: Ion;; live; the KiiiLf ! as the Liberals plmuted : lont' live the Repuldic I In speakin<r of D(jn Carlo* ;ind the Comte d(> Chamhord. th(\v affect to alway.-i :-ay only llisMaje-ty the kini:- Charles VTT, His .Maje-ty the king Henry V. ju-t as the Liberals, in speakiii'j: ul' Napoleon III always said only Mr. Louis J'.uou.'iparte. I have too rnueh re'-jie^t for the opinion of my i SPEECH III advcr.ajirie.s to cvit ins\ilt tliciu ; but T rciti-oacli tlicm witli undorstaiHlinjj; iicitlier tiicir time nor their eoim- trv. I jKX'Usie tliciii of jiidjxiii^' tlio iinlitiral situation of the country, nut according,' to wlial is liaii|>ening in it, l»ut according to what i^l hajnienini); in i'^'ance. t accMiHe thoni of wanting to introduic iiere ideas, whicli nre impoHsildc of application in our ^>tate of socicf v. I accuse them of hit)orion.sly and, l>y mir-fortune, \i*o eilicaciously working to (U'gradcM-eiigiun to tli(> sim- ple j)ro{)ortU)ns of a piditical {)arty. In oiu' adversaries" party, it is tliehal»it tn accuse us, liberals, of irreligion. lam not here tn paraib; my religious sentiments, but T declare that T have too much respect for the laith in which f was liorn to ever use it as the basis of a political organization. You wis!) to organize u Catholic party. Hut have you not considered that, if you have the mis- fortune to succeed, you will draw down upon your country calamities of which it is im})ossihle to foresee the consefjUences? You wish to organize all the Catholics into one party, without other bond, without other basis, than a connnon religion ; but have you not reflected that, by the very fact, you will organize the Protestant population as a single jiarty and that then, instead of the peace and harmony now prevailing between the ditfereiit elements of the Canadian population, you throw open the door to war, a icligious war. the mo-t terrible ol' all wars ? Once more, Conservatives.! accuse you in the I'ace of Canada of not untlerstanding either your country or your tiuje. Our adversaries also reproach us with loving liberty and they term the spirit of liberty a dangerous and subversive principle. Is there any justification for these attacks ? None whatever. exce[)t that there exists in France a group of Catholics wlio i)ursue liberty with iheir in)preca- tiuns. Assuredly, it is not the enemies of liberty in France alone who regard it with terror. The (»N PiiMTicAi. i.iiii:i;a].ism 73 iiiost ardciil fiien<l,s of liliortv oflcii ccinteinplate it Avitli tlic Hiinic I'c'cling. licrall Nliulamc Ilitllaiid'H last wiirds. t^lir luid waniily loved lilicrty. she luid ardent- ly pray(Ml for it, and her hist word was a sorrow I'lil one: ' OliI jjhortv, how nianv critncH arc coniiuittcd in thv nam How ol'ton have tlie same word.s hcni ns Hinrcri'iy uttered by fullv as siincre iVitMiil? of lihrrty ! 1 I'nn readily conceiv', whliout, however, .-•liarini; them, the feeling"! of those Frenchmen, who, reuarding hoAv inucii liherty has cost them in teai's, blood and ruin, have Ho;ne times favored fur their country a vigorous des[)otisni ; I can conceive their anatliema", hut that the^e anathemas sjiouhl he repeated in our midst is a tiling 1 cannot umh'rstand. lihert^ ^Vllat? Is it a con(iuered rac(>, wiio slmuhl curse lUit what wouhl W(; lip witlinut iiherlv? What woultl he to-dav if our fcu'cfatliers had clierished tl le same sentiments as the Conservatives <ii the ]»re- sent tinie"^ Would we he otiier than a race of pariahs ? T frankly admit that lilierty. as it has been gene- rally understood and practised in l^ance, has notliing very attractive about it. Tlie Frendi iiav(! liad the name of lii)erty. but they have not yet had lilierty itself. One of their poet.?, Auguste Uarbicr, has given us a pretty correct idea ol'the kind ofliiierty which is some times in vogue in I'^rance and which was last seen at work in l'<71. He re|>resents it as a woman A la voix r;iii(|U(', aux (hirs iii))i,i.s Qui, du bnin sur la iiciui, dii tin dans Ics pruiiplles, Agile et luarchaiit \\ grau'is pas, Se plait mix eris dii [mmijiIp, aux sanglanti's inrdees, Aux longs lOulciiuHits des tainlioiirs, A I'odeui' do la iiuudfe. aux loiiitaiiu-s \o1('h's l)os oioclie.^i ct tics I aunns so.ird.- : (iiii ne i>renil .ses amours ijU<- <lan- la [in[)uUioc. Et ne piete son lai'ge llano Qu'a dos gens forts en;iinii> elle. et qui veto .jn'on rc'nil)ras.s0 Avoc do-j bras loviges lie.sang. "PKEt'lI If lihf'ity \V!\« well iiiul truly this rtiiiister vir.ajr*', T o.nuld uiHlCrstand tlio iiiiatliciiuus of our adversaries iuid I would l»e till' first til join in tliciii. I'.ut it is not liljcity. An Mn^disli pod. Tennyson, Inis sung iibout liborty, tin; liherty of his country and of ours. In his i)M('iii //; Mriiiiii-iiiiii, Tennyson nddrcsses liin)sf'lf to a friend wlnt ciKiuirfs why lir docs nut fec'k a niildci' cliinato in tlir S'Hith St!;i islands and why, notwithstandinfj; his impaired health. In* persists in reniaininii' under the fugLi'y skies of I'liigland ? And the poet replies : It is tlio I iii'l tlmt ricfincn till, TliHt snhi'i ■suited i'"ii'i'i|<hii clio-o, 'I'lie I, 111'! vv'aci'i'. iriit with Iricii 1> <i<: litos, A iii'in iiiMv sjii'ak tin' tliiii;,' iio will : A land of settled goveininent. A iiiiid ol'.JMst and oM reiiowii. Will"'.' l''f<'cdoin hroa li>n«i slowly down, l''i'0'ii i)i'i'rt> li'nt to j/rci'i'dr-nt ; Whero f'iiction scMom ^ratheis Iiea I Eut liy ileifroe- to I'ldiii'ss wi'oii_!it. The sti'i'njitli of soin" ditl'iisive thouL'lit 'latli time and space to work an 1 sjirea I. This is tiie liberty wo enjoy and defend and this is the liberty, vliich our adversaries, sharinj:- in its benefits, attack, without understanding; it. Jean l)a|i- tiste K:)us?e;iu ( 1 ). in one of his ode--, speak ol' barba- rous peoples, who. line day in a miunent of inconi'ci v- uble folly, tell to insuUinji; the sun with their cries ami impreintions. The poet, in a word, characterizes this stn[)id piece ot' impiety : f,e Dic'i iionrsuivant sa iMniei'e, Vei'sait lies torreiit-i dc huniiTe Suv ses o1)scurs blasphemateurs. (II Til' or.ilo! lias con!, mini d in. Roi-^s^nu with I.ofrano ilc I'uiniiii;- nil] : lull t'l'tw) iri-'Mt Ivri'' I'lc'ts ;ir,' so ut'ion cit''d toL't'tli t in collci- t .<i:is 111 hi Ta. me Ilia; III- 1' diir I", wa i w.is iiU'ituig iVir'u iii^ iiiury, may I'ilsily ll,' |l IKlDUCll Ihis ijili in-.l III:',; (IN riiMTKAI. I.ir,i;i;ALI>M 75 In tilt' Bame way liUerty liav its a'»sailitntH ainniif; us. Kilicrty »i)V»>rrt thcin, llomls tliwm, pntlocns tlioin and (Ifl't'inls tlinii even in t.lii'ir ini|irec'atii)ii-'. Lo Dion jioui'<tu\ant !<fi oarri«MO V( Tsait 'It's tnrrt'iits (lo liiini'-if* >iir «os olisciiis Ma-jilii.Mii.'itt'ms. Itiit. w iiilo rt'ininu'liini: u^> witii l>ein^ Iricmh nl' lilicrly our advcisiirie.i I'urtlier rcprnacli us. with an inc'iin-^isU'nry wliicli wnuld lif scriiuH. if tlio charge Avore Well I'i'UnihMl, witli donyini: to thr ( hurcii tlie iVecdiiiii til which it is entitled. They reproach u? with seekintf tn silence the adniiaistrative hudy of th(! ('hur(di ami to prevent it t'ri)iu teaching the people their du'ies as .citizens and electors. Tliey reproach us with wantin<r to hinder the clerLry iVoiu nieddlinf:; in ])oliiics and to rple;rate them to tlie sacristy. In the name of the f.ihera! party and oT l.ilteral ]>rinciples. 1 repel tiiis as?(Mtion. 1 maintain that tliere is not one ( anadian l>il)eral uho wants to [irevent the c!erp:y froiu lakin;:- part in political atVairs. if they wish to do so. '■■ Tn the name of what principle, slimild the t'riendf, (ifliherty seel< to deny to tlie prie-t tlie ri^'ht to laki' l)art in political aliairs? In the name o|' what i>rin- cii)!e shouhl tlie friends of liberty seek to deny to the ]n'iest the ritrht to have and express political opinion^, the I'l^ht to aiiprove or disai>prov<; luiMit- men and their acts and to instruct the people in what he believes to he their duty ? In the name of what prin- ciple, should he not have the rifxht to s;iy that, if I am elected, religion will he endanjicred. when T have the right to say that if my advei'sary is elected, the Htnie will he endangered? Why should the priest not have the right to say that, ill am elected, reliiiion ■will lie inevitalily destroyed, when 1 have the right to say that, if my adversary is elected, the St.ate will go into bankruptcy '! Xo. let tlie ])rie-t speak and jireacii. as he thinks hprt : su di i^ hi^ right and no Canadian Liherid will disjuite thai rigiit. II i 16 MM:i;t II Our coimtitution invite-! all citi/eiH to tiilco i>art in tlu! liiicrtidii ot'tlic iiiraiiN nt' tiu- Stato ; it makes no oxceptidii «>l' any |Krs<in. I^adi one lias liie riLilit imi only til exinos.s iiis (i|iiniiin, luil to inllueiice, if Jio can. iiy the expiessinii ni his opinion, the opinion of liis tVihiw citizens. This ri^'lit exi-ttH for all ami theio can he no reason why the priest should he ilepriveil of il. film here to MpeaU my whole mimi and I may add that I am i'ar I'mm limlinii; opportune tlio inter- vention of the cler.L'y in the doiiiiiin of politics, as it has 1 )Ce|i excn ised lor some vcars. f helieve on tlio contrary that, from ihe standpoint of the respect duo to his character, tin' l>rie-!t has every thin;r to lo-;e hy meddling in the ordinary (|iie-tioii.s of piditic-): still his riyht to do so is indisputahle ami, if he thinks ]»rop(>r to use it, our duty, as liiln'rals.is to y;iiarantce it to him :i;j;ain t all <lenial. This rij^ht, however, is not unlimited. We have no ahsolule ri^ht-! amon^fst us. The rights of each man. in our state of society, end precisely at the point where they encroach :ipon the riirhts of others. The ri<j;ht of intcrfcrent'c in politics linishes at the spot where it encroaciio.s on the elector'.s indepen- dence. The constitution of the country r<;.--ts on the freely expr(!ssed w i-h of each (de(;t(»r. It intends thai each eltH'tor shall ••n-'t his vote freely ami willin^ily as he deems hest. IT the , greatest numher ol' the electors of a country are actually of an oj)inion and that, owiuf^ to the mllneniM* exercised upon them hy tuie or more men or owinu- to words tlicy have heard or writings tln^y have read, their o|)inion changes. there is nothing in the circumstance hut what is perl'ectly legitimate. Although the opinion they exjtress is ditTt-rent from the one they wmild have expres-ed without such intervention, still it is the one they desire to express conseieneiously. and the constitution meets witii its entire apijlication. [f. however, not wilhstanding all reasoning. the opinion of the electors remains the .same, hut that, hy intimidation or I'rand, they are fiN PnllTIt AI, I.ini:UAI.Ii-M 77 Inrcnl to vote (linVrciilly, tin ii|iiiiiuii whicli tln'V I'xpre.ss is not their n|iiiii(tii. imd tlio coii-'titiMii'M is viiilatcd. As 1 Iiavc nlreiuly Miid, the coiistituf inn intt'iMJs tliat eiicli onc'.s (iiiininn sliall Ik- iVct'ly t>X|ir(>s.-i'(l Hit h(\ understands it at t!ie inomont of expre.-siiin. and ■1 tl le enllcc'tivc reunion ot the indi- Vldnal opuueiH, Ireely exiive.-.-i d, loiins ii.c govt m- xnent of thf (-ountry. Tiif law watelies with f^n jciilous an eye tlio Iree exj>iession of the elector's o|iinio!i an it really is that, if in a < onstitiieney the opirion ex|ires<ed l)y a sinirio one of th(! electors is not his real opinion, lait an opinion forcetl from him hy fear, fraud or corruption, th(; election must he annulled. Tt is therefore perfectly lejiitiniate to alter the elector's (ipiidoii hy argument and all other means ot persuasion, hut never l)y intimidation. As a matter of faet. persuasion chancres the elector's convictiiin ; intinndation does not. When, liy persuasion, you linve ehaiiiied the elect(n''.s eonvietion. the ojdnion lie expresses is his own ojiinion ; hut when, hy terror, you force him to vote, the opininn he expresses is your opinion ; remove thy eau-e ofhisfeivr ami he will then express another ojiinion. which it his own. Now. it will lie understood, if the opinion expressed hy the majority of the electors is not their real opinion, hut an opinion snntehed from then: hy fraud, hy threats or hy corruption, the constitution is violated and yt)U have not the government of the nnijority, but the frovernment of a ininoritv. Well, if sucdi a state of things continues and i.s repeated, if, after each election, the will exjiressed is not the real will of the country, once more you do violence to the constitution, responsible government is no longer anything hut an empty name and. fiooner or later, here! as elsewhere, the i)ressure will culminate in explosion, violence and ruin. Hut people are not wanting who say that the clergy have a right to dictate to the people what are its duties. T simply answer that we are here under 7S 'KiJ 11 ! i! the goveinmont of till' (i-ueon oi' Kiiglimd. umlcr tlie jiiilhority t»r ti cunstituliuii wliicli wa.s iri'iiiitcfl to us jis an act of justice, and that, if the exorcise nf tho lights \viii(.'h you claim i>; in have for effect the impe- ding of tlio constitution and our ex]to.suie to all tlic c.on!-0(iuences of .-such an act. then the ideiiiv them- selv(.'rt would not want it. T am not one oi' those who jiarade thom^clve.s a3 I'riends and chami>ions of the cleruy. llcw- ever, I say tliis ; like the most of my youni:- fellow countrymen. 1 liave lieen rtared anioufj,- jirie.-ts and among young men who liavhecouje priests. T llattor myself that I have among them .some sineere friends and to them at lea^t, I can and T do say : set\ if there is under the .siui a country happier than ours ; sco, if tlicre is under tlie sun a country where the (.'atholic chureii is freer or nmre ]nivileged than it is here. Why. then, should you. I«y claiming rights incompa- tihle with our state of society, expose this country to agitations, of which it is impossiMe to foresee the conse<iuenci'S ? Jiut T addrc.-s mysell' lo all my fcllov; cuuntry- nien without (li>linction and \ say to them : We are a free and happy people ; and w c aie so owing to the liheral institutions i^y which we are governed, institutions which we owe to the exertions of our foret'atiiers ami the wisilmi of the mother country. The jiolicy of the hilieral [)arty is {u [irofect tho.«o institutions, to defend and s{)read them, and, under the sway of those institutions, to develop the country's latent resources, i'liat is tiie policy of the Liberal party and it has no other. Now. to properly estimate all the value ^f tho institutions liy which wt. are ruleil to day. let us com])are the present state of the country with what it was before ihcy were granted to us. Forty ye;irs ago the country was in a state of feverish commotion. a prey to an agitation which. a few month.-i hUcr.l»roI;e out in le'.iellioit.The i'oitish crowu was only maintained in the country l)y the force of N^ (iN rdl.ITIi Af, I.IllKUAl.Ir^M .9 Ipowilrr ami ball. Auil yet wiiat wcit'ihu- jufde- ci'.s.-or.H ^cc'kiiiu' ? Thov w ti(> a:^kin^' t'or notiiini: more than the iii>rituti(>n« wliirli we liavi' at pri'scut ; those in.stitutii)ii3 were jiiaiitcd to us niul loyally applied ; and .-tc tlio n-suU ; the I'lritish lia^- lloaia dverihe old citach'l ot *iuclieo ; il lloats to-ni,iiht ovtr our licads, witliout a :-injilo ]']n,nli,-h soldiiT in tin' country to dcTpud it. it- «oU' deiVuce lo.-tintr in tho <2;iatitudu, w liiili wo owe it tor our I'recdoiu and the security which we have found undci- it- I'ohis. Where is the ('aiiadian who. com paring hiscouu- try with evm tiie iVeot countries, wouhl not frel prouil ot' t he institutions whicii protect liini? Wheic is the Canadian who, jiassinu' tlirnu<:li the fitrt'cts (if tills (dd city and reacliinu' the nidnument raised a lew ste[)s from here to the memory of tJH! two hravc men. who died on the same li(dd of battle wliilc contenilin;; I'or tjuipire in Canada, W(udil not feel jiroud of his countiy ? In wiiat other country, under the sun. can you tin! a similar monument reared to the niemoiy of the comimTcil as well as <d' t he eon(|Ueror ? In what other couniiy. under thesun. will you iind the nauies of the coiHpU'red and the com|Uer(M' e(iually honoi'cd and occupyini:!; the saim> place in t!u' respect of tlie population ? ( ientlcmen. when. In that last hattle which is recalled hythe Wolfe auil Ahuitcalm nninumcnt the iron hail was siiroidiim death in the ranks of the French army ; when the old heroes, whom victory had so often aeconi]-anIed,saw at last. victory snatchetl from iheni; wiien, sti'etchcd on the ground with tlu'ir lit'e hlood fast eld. inn" away, they saw. us the result of their defeat. <iueliec in the hands of the enemy and the colli, tiy forever ln.-t : uo douht, tiioir last thought was of their children, whom they were leavic.u' without prnti'ction and without defen<('; no doubt. they pictured tlnin as pci-ecuted. enslaved, and liumiliated, and then, it is reas>i;alde to believe, they drew tle.'ir hist breath with a cry of despair. 80 SI'KKCII l>ut, il'. on tlie otiicr IkiikI. Heaven had lifted the veil of the future from tlieir dying eyes and enalded thoni lor an instant. Itelorc tliose closed forever, to pierce wliiit was hidden from tlieir sij^lit: if tln^y could iiav(! seen their ciiildren I'ree and hai)i)y, inarciiiij;r proudly in all s|>liere3 of society ; if they <;(iuld !i;ivc seen, in the old cathedral, the seat of lienor of the French i^overnors occujiied ]>y ;i French {Tovernor : if they could have seen tlie cliurcii steeples risin.' in every valley fnou the shores of (iaspe to the piiiirics of ihc Ucd lliver ; if they could have Been this old llag. which recalls the linest of their victories, carried triumphantly in all our i)uhlic cere- monies: in line, if they could have seen our free in- etitutinn^, is it not permissihle to think that their last breath would Inive l)cen exhaled in a murmur of gratitude to Heaven and tiiat they would have died consoled ? If the shades of these heroes still hover over this old city, for which they laid down their lives ; if their shades hover to-night over the hall in which we are now ass('nd)led. it is tree for us, Lilierals, to think — at least we cherish the fond illu.sion, — that their 8ym|)atliies are all with us. I 'iHE QUEBEC MINISTERIAL CRISIS IN 1878 MU, LvUHIKirs RKl'LV TO TIIK DETHAl'TOR^ uF Till': [.lliKltAL PAIITV ( »a til" 1 1 ill April, IS7S, a few wei-k-) after tli<; disiiiissal ot tlie Do I'oiiclioi'villi> Cabinet l)y LifMitoiiant-fiovornor Lett'lThM', Sir .lohii A Mai'iloiiajil, tluMi U^'iilerof tli(^< (p^.O-sitinn, iiiaile th« follow iiii-' motion in the House of <'oinuions: "Tliat Mr. Spiak- r ill) iHi; iinw Icavi' IhiM'ri lir. lull tliul it h.' rcs.ilvpd Hint tin recent (iKinissal l)\ tin' I,ii'uIi'h;uiI-( Jdvctihii- ol i^iu'l)i<- of his Mi iii>-I<T.s was, nihil r llir i-iriiiiiisticiii-r>, iinu isr aii'l ^iilpvi'i'>iv>' ol'tlii' pD^itioM ai'curil'il lo tin- ailvls('i'.> ot the < 'i nun siiicr t h" en ic'ssion of till' pri in-i|i!i- i>!' I5r.«pi)iisiljl(' ( iovi'iiiliii'Ml Id III'' I!r'ili--li .NoiMIl AllHl'l''all ( oiollii'S. " 'i'his motion was rojoctdd l»y a vote oi 112 against 7<(. after a long ileliate, in the coiu'so of which iloiioi'able Mr. Lauiier took occasion to ddiiie the, true principles profivsse'l hy tlie Liberal party, as he liirl done in his lecture of the previous year at (iiii-hec. Tliere exists unfortunately only a feeble analysis of his speech, which we taive from th' llnusni'l : Mr. I.aurior snid the Imii. ffentlt'iiian, who luid just adilrcssed tlie House, had endeavored to inllu- eiK'O the qucslion liy casting upon the l-iheral paitv of the province of Quebec wliat vould be termed liy no other name than I'oul slander. lie commenced his reintiikH by (quilling ^fr. Thiers in favour of constitu- tional monarchy, in order to sliow that in the ranks of the Liberal party in Quebecthere were men opposed to constitutional g'overnment. Sucii an accusation eominfj; from the member for Terrebonne surprised him very much. Tt surprised him tiiat a man. whom lie believed to be the fairest Conservative in Queiiec, 6 82 srEEcH eliould liave niiulr use of such Unitrunjro. Vet it wns not sur])ri.sin<:-. fur it was only a oonTinuation of the tactics which had hfcii used, again and ajxain, in the ])rovince of Quelioc for the last twenty-five years, and the day had not yet dawned in that province wlien it had been their gojd fortune to discuss any i)ul)lic question ujion its merits. A\'hen tliey Avere discussing any question, his party were always met with the taunt THAT TIIKV WKHE COMMI .\; 1 ^' i 5i r '' again and again, and would he all through the elec- tions. I'poii this (|Uestion. lie would not charge tlie hon. menilicr I'or Terrelionne (.Mr. Masson). with a deliberate falsehood, hut he would make a cuuiitcr- charge. W'liilo the hon. gentleman iharg(-d them with heing Communists, he f .Mr. liauriev) charged the jiartx' which the hon. gentleman led witii I'Oing HOSTILE TO THE ri;i.N<'rri.Ks of respDUsiVile government ; and he made this charge advi.scdly. Its doctrines could he jud.'-ied hy the tone of its jire.-s. He couM cite from articles oftheir most authorized orgaiis in which the i)rincipl(:- of respon- 8il)le govenmumt v*erc condemned. Tt v,as well known that the French charter of l>^on was a close copy of <ho Knglish constilutioii. And yet. what wjis t!ie opinion which a Conservative iiajier put upon that coi,,.rtiiu- t"on in I'rance',' Under i\n' cliaitorof 1 ^oO^ the C;owu w.ia in a u.r.st liuiui- ON TiiK rirF.r.i;( MiNisTKurAi, cursi* in 1S78 S3' liating i>ositiiMi, ami I.ouis Pliilippe wus roilucoil to extract from I'ae innioiit\. I>y means of cnrruption. the iniiuniik' of authoiity wliicli luul l^een taken from the Crown. This was the estimation in wiiicli honoralile gen- tlemen opposite held the Uritiiih ennstitution. of Avhieh the French constiuition d l^od wa.'^ u c<:py. Jiut it might he said that this wa.-- simi)ly an opinion as to it8 applieal)ility to the French people. He knew this ilelence was made. Tt' that were the argu- ment, he would simply answer that in tlu^e (ptotations the lionorahh; gentlemen i)i)posite showed what were their ideas of reS[>onsiMe government. Ihit he could, give them, also, what were tiie opinions at this very moment ol' those who stood here as the ehampions of responsihle government, iie would cite from an artielr^ puldished in one of their leading organs. //' i'vurrin' dit CiuaU'd, cm the l-'ith March last : Tlie clr'Ctoral oontfst i.s now eiiiragod ir. everywhere, and w (• know that, ui'iler the eir<iiiu>taiK'e?, it may he I'xtri - inely vioh>nt. 'fhe^'e (ilections will In- follow ed hy the I'ederul eiei;lU)n.<, th.'se will \>v followed liy hehool eh'etioii.s. and those hy luimieiiia! elertions : in hict, w(> have elections everywhere. We n)ay, tliereiore, consiiler thai tor a long time elcctoi'al agitation will lie jiernianent. The IViends of tranfjuillity are, lor good rea^^ons, Irighteiieil at the .system of the aue. We nuist diink the cuii to the <liegs. I'lverylhing indu ates that elections will coiitinue to bfeome more and more fi'cjuent ; Ijil)eridi.--m is iond of elections. These elections will increase aszitation. When we ftpe:ik of l.ilicralism. ue sjK-ak ol Lihe- ralism in Canada, for her" a~ well as el>c\vhere it lias recorde(l on its progi'amme nniversal snU'raui'. This i> what the Lih-cral.s call the vindication of the ritihtsol the people. For this luero- native, the )ioor working man is hound to give away many hoiir.s fr(.im iiis lal o'.'. Here \vas an organ of Conserviitive opiiiiou in Lower Canada statiiig that this .system id' re^poti- sihle government Wit.; an invtntion ofthedevii. On the lloov <d' Parliament the L'onsei vative i)arty stood as the rlianipi-rni! of iVee res] nnsihlc governnient : in the ]n'e.s3 84 M'EKCII TIIF.V (irKX!.-)- DKNiil Nr];i> this same .sy8toiu. IInw wan it that sucli a contni- (lictiitii exist"tl ? There wns in tiiat uilicle one par- agrnjih wiiioli j^ave the key to the whole Viiystevy. It uas a part ol" the system whidi liad heen always carrieil out against the r/iheral paity in liOwer Canada. On the lloor of this House, they jialmcd themselves ofT as chami)ions of Iree rcsjxmsihle govcriiment, iind, in the prc-^.s, Ihcy denounced the .same sy.stem witli the ohjeet of nunely Jiinking political cai)ital iigain.st the Ijiheral party. lie was right in charging the party with heiiiu- decidedly hostile to tln^ form of ro.^piuisilde government under which they lived. Of course, tliey would not say so openly on the lloor of tliis House; he did not exi>pct any of those gentlemen to repmliate the language made use of in their jtress; hut. if they were as devoted ;is they pretemled to he to the prinoii)les of responsilde government, WAS IT Not TIIKin nolNMiKN IHTV to repudiate siioli language ? They had never rejju- di'ited it. Mr. Jiahy :-l)iil you reijudiate Dessaulles" doctrine al)out annexation ? Mr. Laurier said, if he were to name all the gen- tlemen who, at (Uie time, ludd annc^xationist views, lie would tind many among the honoi'iiljh^ gentlemen opposite. Several honoralde menjheis : — No : name them I ^Ir. haurier said iie could cite many, hut tliis was an old and dead issue. There was another organ ot' i)uhlic o]union, \]\c .lnvrnal 'Im Truls Itiriirrs, xapon which he could luit. unfortunately, lay his hands just then, as it was not receive [ in the I.ihrary, in which lionorahle gentlemen would rememher, a series of articles a])))eared. Some tour or live years ago. in supjiort of the doctrin(> that the minority was not hound hy the decree of the nnijority. Under the ON THE <jrKlU:( MrMsTKUIAI. (Kl.-ls I\ I'iTS 85 constitutitm iiiuliT wliicli we live, the decrees of the niiijority, when exiiressed in tlie pntper channel'; and in the proper I'lirin, must l)e respected i>y the minority. Ife did not mean to say the majority would not tall into error, hut the remedies tor error.s were provided hy the constitulion. Then it l)ecame the duty of the nunority to asritate and have this error corrected, and he helieved they could do it and that justice would always in the end prevail. He held tliat this was TKIK AM) sol'M) noci'iaxE ; hut, in one of the papers of the honorahle gentlemen oppcsite, a .series of articles was publishetl to estahlisii the'' proi)o3ition that if a hydaw was jiassed hy tlio majority it would not l)e hindinjf on the minority, The circumstance which jrave rise to the artieles was this : a liy-law luul heen parsed hy a (tounty. according to the terms of the law, granting a honus to the North Shore Railway, upon a vote of the majority. Tiiese articles claimed that the bydaw wa.s not binding upon the minority who voted against it. hut only on the majority wlio voted for it. Such language as that was used under a free res])onsibL' government l)y those who now taunterl tiie Liheral party with lieing l.'ommunists. Strange to say, the late (Juebec (iovern- ment passed a law which had not l)een sanctioned, in wliich, on frivolous pretexts, they compelled every one to i»ay the bonuses, whether tlie conditions were eonii)lied with or not. These gentlenuMi were hcrt* as the ohaniiiions of responsible government ujion th.e floor of Parliament ;ind at the same time, in the coun- try, they were attacking it with their own press and with all the other weapons at their hamls. In the country, they deni)unced the iiresent system of v^^s- ponsihle gi)vernment; on the floor of Parliament they defended it. Just hearken to their language to-d;iy. They the champions of civil rights; they tin, apo-*- tles of the doctrine that all roynl [lOwer is superior to the people : they this time reduced the representative 86 srEEcii oi'tlio Crown in the ppovince of QiU'hcc to a mere autoniutun, who had notliin^' to do but what he was ti)hl by his Ministers. His (.Mr. Lauricr's) party were liiberal ; tlu-y contended that the majority must govern, tiiat tlie will ot'tlie peopk^ mint pre Viiil. and that tlie Crown had its riylits iis well as the p^uple theirs. Tlie best regulated State was the State in Avhicii tlie rights cl' the Crown and the rights of the jieople were clearly defined and greatly re.-<ijeeted. This was not the doctrine of honorable gentlemen opposite. Tn connection with this he claimed that it was neither their duty nor their province to criticize the coi;duct <if Mr Letellier. Ills I'Kol'KH .iriKiES Avere the people of the ))rovinee of Quebec. He would not follow the honorable gentleman in the controversy respecting the action of .Mr. Fietellier; liut would leave it to the juagiiieiit ot'the i)eople. J>ut he would say this : that it would be the most dangerous prin- ci))le and the most serious blow tlisit could be effected against our institutions if the proposed motion were carrieih The carrying out of this prnpoiition would be a direct invasion of the Federal system under which we lived. It was a well kntjwn tact tliat had the jirovince of f^uebec not represented a minority of n ditferent creed, race and language, the union would not have been a Federal one. It was the federative sys- tem that gave to the ])rovinco of* Juobcc its autonomy. lie was especially jealous to keep up the p.rinciples of theFi'deral system umler which we lived. He submit- ted that the Dominion Covernmcnt had no power to iiitciicre with a matter which affect(Ml the provincial constitution of Quebec alone. It would be a most diuigerons principle t'or this Parliament to interfere. He agreed with the honorable leader of the Opposition "VN'hen he said that the provinces were free and res[ton- sible g<jvernments. If that jiroposition was a correct one, even though a great wrong had been com- ON THE QlEl'.Kr MINIsTKI.'IAI, ('rU>:^IS IN 1871 87 niittcd ngiiiiiHt tho people of Quebec, was it not a fact that tliey liad THE llEMEDV IN TIIEIl! OWN HANDS, if they (lid not api>rove of tho conduct of tlic late (loverninout '.' It wouhl, indoed, l)e l)otter that a wronp (.'oniinittod in the Truvince of Quebec sliduld reinaiu than that the system of feileral ixovernnient should he je()p;irdi/.ed. II<; did not mean to lay down tlie propositiiin that no matter wliat chanjxes mij:;ht take ])l;ice in the government or(iueI)ec, I'arliament shouhl not interfere; he fninkly iulmitted that a wrong might perehance l)e eoiumitted in the province of Quehuc which wouhl justify tins Parliament to step in. It would certainly he the duty of the Dominion (lovenimcnt to interfere in order to redress a wrong which tho people could not themselves remedy, iiut if this power was exercised on slight grounds, what would become of our l-'odoral machinery which they had been at such pain to establish ? lie submitted that the resolution placi^d in tho hands of Mr. ^[>eal<er would, it'carricd, be an invasion of the right."!! of the people of Quelicc. J5ut honorable gentlemen opposite said that the right.s of tlie people of Quebec had been trifled with and invaded by tl i(! ac •tion of tin; Lieute- mint-(h)vernor. Well, as he had already pointed out, the people of Quebec could remedy the evil them- selves l)y overthrowing the present legal advisers of the Crown. It war not for this Parliament to sav whether the Lieutenant-Ciovernor had acted jmii- ciously or injudiciously, wisely or imwisely — that Wiis a question which would be decided afterwards. Lieiiteniiiit-GoveFuor Lctclliei'S ki ANOTIIKU MOTION OF (KysUIlK A I'I.EA nillril slMs II' THE WIKiI.K i^riCSTliiN In l.ST'.i, tlieC'otistM'vatives, wlioliinl just rccaptun-ii powci' atfottfiwii, leturnnl to tin' I'liarge a.miinst the lati' L('ti'lli<^r ilo i^t.lnst. lint, tliis time, it was not Sir .lolin, wlin liml Itecomw Priiii" Mini.-tcr, who i)if)i)o,so(i tlu'ci'hsnie ; it was Mr. Moii«- .•^(■au, a juililif man since disnpiioarcd IVoni tlic woild's staj.'!-, wild took iij) tlii^ MaofloiiaM motion of tlio jncviou.s session. Ml', laui'icr, on tliis occasion, delivered a s|icecii wliich suniH up admirably llie whole (jiierttinn. {HOUSE OF COMMONS) >ITTIN(i OK TllK TiTIl .MAIK II. 1.S79 Ml!. sI'EAKKi;, T do DDL risi' witli the vion' ti» answer the speech of tlie lionoralilc monilier i'or Lincoln, hecau.se 1 do not see anythin;^- in lii.s japeech to lie answered. Wlien the lionorahle gentleman lir^t lieuan liis speech. I took a blank slieet of jiaper and a pen t<> take up any points made against tJie Oppt)sition in thi.s Ilnuse ; hut T had not occasion to use my instrument at all. Tlie lirst part <>{' his speech was onsuhjects which had 90 si'Er.t II no rcfprpnoo tn the niotinn bnforo tho ITouso, iiiul tlio hi.'^t |i;ii't 111' it, which hiul rcrcrciic*' to tiic iiiolion hel'iiit' iho ll<)ii<('. hii9 hciMi iinswcreil time mikI u<riiin. I iilso w.'iitnd tor some tiino to Hcpifiiny ul'thc honor- iililc gciith'iiK'n mi the TrciiHury IiciichcH would v\i*e to tt'U us wiiat wdulil lie th<? policy of th('( iov(!rium'iit on this (jucstion. Pcrhnps the t'lut that tlic motion wiiii h is now Ix'fori! tlio IIousowuh hist yoar presented hy tlie lender ol'the Opposition, the present Premier of this ( lovernment, and is not reneweil hy him now, may he. taUen as some evidence hy the Umise that, Avhiitever m.'iy he the future conduet of the (Jovern- ment upon this nueslion. if their own feelinj^s had been followed, this imitter would not luive come a pecond tiim before this Ilou-Je. F he^ to remind the Ibiuso of this, that the motion which was made last session, rui- IliKXrli Al. MOTION which we have ii'Mv hefort^ lis, was neijjatived hy a larui' niiijoiity of this llou?e. T say, at the outset, uhen this motion was nejfatived hy a large Uiajority of lhi3 Houst;. the majority did not then iissert that the principhunvolvcd in this motion was not true anymore than they would assert that it was true ; they did not assert that the condui'l of Mr. Letellier was wise any more than it was unwise; that it was constitutional any more than it was unconstitutional. The Ibnise carefully and distinctly abstained from pronouncini:' any opinion upon th(> conduct of .Mr. i.etellier. The I louse held, at the time, that there was no occasion for it to interfere in this matter, and that, under the regime under which we now live, the l)rovinces are free anil independent. not only one of the other, but of the central power as well. This House adirmed that, whenever any provincial difTerence^ a- rise. tliey should be settled by the application of the ])rinciples of responsible government with which every province is endowed, and det'ided tliat thia (iN THE i.i:tki,i.iki;V ai r.vu M matter, wliioli iifP^ted solely tli(! iiiterosta nl' the pwjple of Quehec, sliouM l)t' left to tlioir judginont, lic-t evi- liet'ii aup- AM» TO TIIKM MONK it iip)M'riaint'il to decide uliftlier or not the ii<'t tif Mr Li'tflliiT Wiis wise imd toii?titutioiiiiI. At hut time, the pt'ojilc of the in'ovlncf of Qnclx'c luid imt decided ui»(»n it ; they had just been seized of the (inestion. The elections hud not yet taUen jdaee. imt wereinjjro- ftress ; tliey hud sinee taken phice. iiiul. wliatever may he said hy honoralile yiMitlemen opposite, the result Jiad lieen to uphold the action ol" Mr F.etelHer. Several honoralde niemhers : — No, no. .Mr. haiirier • — W'iiat are you here for, if you .«ay no? If your (lovernment h;id not h(>en detV'uted. why should you I'C liel'ore tins House? ^■our very motion is iho dence of what T suy. If your conrsf had l)orted Ity the i)co|)le. you wouhl not seek, at the hands of tiii.'< House, tlif venueanee whicji you are now seckinji;. I allirm what I hnvi' already said, that the people oftiio province of <iueltee. who alone are interested in this (juestion, have decided that, in their ()j)inion, whether that he ri;j:ht or wron<i. the art of Mr. Letellier was just and constitutional. Tf sui'h he the case, if this question has already ))een once hefore the House, if this House lias aln^ady declined to inter- fert^ in this matter, and deciih'd to have it entirely in the hands of the people of (iuehec. and if tin; people of tlic ])rovince of Quehee havtt decided upon it, is it not hut proper that this (piestion should he laid at rest forever hefore this House? 1 do not hesitate to fiuy that this matter would have forever remained at rest hefore this House, had it not heen t'or another fvnt which has since taken place, namely, the Pomi- nion elections. W'v. have had it iVoni the mouths of honorahle gentlemen opjtosite. Tin; result of the gonerul elections has heen to displace the maiority fi'om the Liheral to the Conservative ranks, and now that a new element is hrought into tla; House, u new 92 Sl'FKCif atli^iiipt is mado tn irct tlie new luajority to do wluat the old inajni'ity would not do. TO srp.srrn'rK tiik wri.i. ov 'piik dominion- for the will of the province of (iuelioc, Kven without the language that i'ell from the li[)^ of ridiaehonorablo gentlemen opixisito. I would luive taken this motion as u slur u[)on the majority of tlio lV)rmer House. The idea convoyed hy it, not. it is true, in language, but as clearly as if expressed in words, isthatthe Lil)eral majority, wliich sat on the other side of the Ifouso last year, deliberately refused to do justice in the premises; that, since the party ousted from power at Queliec happened to be the Conservative party, and the party called to power hai>pened to be the liiberal l)arty. tin; Lil)eral majority in this House allowed their better judgment to be biassed l)y their jtolitical feelings. As one of that majority which ruled hist pession, I do not object that this accusation should be thrown at us, provided that that the same standard of measure should be applied this time again. And, if this motion is to be alHrmed, if the Conservative majority in this House is to do what the Lilieral majority would not do last year, if tliey are going I TO KIDK OVEII TIIK IMtoVINiES, if either the majority whicii insisted last ye;ir upon respecting the right ol' the provinces to self-govern- ment, or the majority which this year may infringe upon those right?^ ; if either majority. T say, are to be liranded as being actuated by improjicr motives, r have no ol)jection to that, and we will cheerfully await the judgment of impartial men and imi)artial history. iJefore going further, let me make one olser- vatiun. The elections in the province of Quebec hi'-t year took i)lace upon the issue raised by the act of Mr Letellier. and upon no other issue. At the very outset of the campaign, in a sjipoch delivered in the ON TIIK I.CTKIJ.IKl! Al'rAI!: 5>a town III' I,fvis. l>y Mr Cliiijiloiiu, tliR present lejuler of tho O|ipo.sition in (iiiobec, lie stated that tliis (juc.-ftion (if'tlio (lisniisfliil ol' the Ministry liy Mr T.ctcllicr waii the only (luestion which the jx-opic ^h luld look at. He used very forcihlc htn<riiaf.^('. T have not the 6i)ei.'{'h hel'orc \uv. hut F Isfpt the »'xact Avord.s in my memory, which has not I'ailed me. He put it, that whatever miirht have bcfii their Iniiiufis as Ministers, evenil'they had hicn defaulters and thieves, they had hecn <lisniissed improperly and ilU'fxally, and it Avas the duty of the people of (^uehec to restore them to the place i'rom which they had lieen dismissed. On the other hand, .Mr Joly. tho i»resent leader of tiu> <i(ivernment, accepted the issue upon tiial i^round alone. He .=?aid to tiie people that he fully endor.sed A.M) ACCKPTKIi Tin: RKSI'ONSI III 1,1 I Y upon overn- rrini>;e are to utives, u-fuUy )artiiil 1)1 Per- ec Ip'-t act of e very in the of the act of Mr. F^j'tellier — that it was an (extraordi- nary act. hut that it was justilitMl and called for hy the circumstance-; ' he case. As T stated, the result was that the act of .M. . Letellier was upheld. I need not remind this House that every one of us holds his Eeat upon an issue in the consideration o|' whicli the (|Uestion now hcfore the House did not count for any- thing-. T heard the honorable gentlemen from Card- Avell say that tins question had been voted upon, at least in the province of Quebec, on the 17lh September. T take issue with this. This is theiirst intinnttion I have ever had of it. Whatever may have taken jdace in the province of ()uoboc, T am ijuitesure it never was discussed in the other jtroviiues. T>et me now >;sk it of lu)norable ucntlenieii from the sister ])rovinces : let me a[»peal to their faiiaiess and justice, even il' tins House had the authority to interfere in this matter, would it be fair and just to the province of (^uelKH; for this House to interfere in the matter, since the jieople of the province <if 'iuebee are alone alVecttd by this act : since they alone are to suffer from it, if it has been unwise : since thev alone are to suffer from it. if it be ^ I 94 SPEEril u I! I unwise; since they alone are to benefit from it, if it be wise ; since tbey have lield it, in tlieir estioaation, to bo \\y.c: would it be just, would it be wise, won.!' IT V>E CONsTlTCTIoNAr, for gentlemen of the other provinces to condemn what those interested in it have ai>i)roved ? I might ask it also of my mure immediate countrymen, of those of fellow-origin and fellow language; I jnight ask them if tlicir conduct, on the occasion, is patriotic? Ts it patriotic in them to ask the aid of tlie eister pro- vinces, sinee their views have not ])revailed at the polls, in order, under their united action, to crush the exj)ressed will of their own province ? What they arc driving at is to obtain a mere party triumph, and, to do that, they are ready to sacrilicc the vested rights ol' tiieir native province. In oidcr to obtain a mere party triumi)ii. tbey ask the aid and co-operation of a foreign ]iower. — liccause 1 hold that the l*'ederal power, in p\nely provincial matters, is a foreign ])0\vcr— tbey ask liie a'.d of a I'oreign power, forgetting tiiat. whenever a ])arty in any country, in order to obtain a triuni])h ovcv a rival party, calls jn the aid and co-oj)eration of a foreign power, the invariable consciiufcuce has always been rilK KNSI.AVKMKNI' oF THi: WlloI.K rOfNTItV, I do not ainirt'liend that so fatal a result w<iuld follow iVoui the a<t of honorable gciitlcnx u o]iposite. but the result would lie that a l^reacb would be openi'tl in the princi[)le which we have always looked ui>un as the bulwaik of oiii ]M'ovineial liiierti(;S. And just look at the justice whieii is meted to Mr. beiellier in this case I fiast year, when the motion was brought up. anil when it was asked that it should lie brought in the shajieofa substantial niotion. so that it might be open to an amendment, they w culd not do so. but insisted 'ii 1)rin-imi- on the uiot on for the House to OS THE l.KTKl.I.IKli S Al'KAIR 05 if it ation, II wliat lit asic tllOdO lit ask I'iotic ? QY |)V()- iit the crush it tlicy h. aiul, I riylit=< I lucre ;i()U of I'fderal I'orcigii Si' et ting (U'r to he aid arialilo follow lUt the in tlio bs the |i)ok at ca^ie I |). oinl in llio hi he , liut li.^e to go into coiuiuittce of supply, so that the true resolu- tion at which the House iiiifiht have arrived was pre- vcntcil from iroing on tlie journals of the House. And this time, as sottn as the niotinn is made, my honor- ahlo t'rierid from Laval (Mr. Ouimet ) stands up and moves tlie previous (luestion. It is true, in moving tlie previous (|Uestion, he was kind enougli to .siiy that he did not mean to stilh; this (piestion ; and he was also so strict as to give a precedent to show that the moving of tlie jircvious (luestimi would not prevent free discussion. \\'liat then did he want to jirevent '.' Tt was that tlieo])inion elicited hy this free discussion should not go down upon tlic jimrnals of the Hoii~e. He knew that tlie motion couhi lie met succcs.^fully with an amendment whicii, jierhajis, might liave i)een carried hy a majority (^I'the House, and. in oi'dcr to gel a verdict, cnt'/ir qiir cin'itr^ against Mr. Lctellier, lie prevented Till; l■or.<I^,ll,^^^• oi' a.\ AMr.M).\n;.NT licing made. No doulit, a good many gentlciuen from our sister t)rovinces have given this (piestion hut little attention and the })apers l)rought down a very iiidif- ferent jjerusal. and have di'rive(l tluir knowledge of tlie case mostly from the indictment of Mr. hetellier drawn yesterday and to-day. Perhaps ihey think he has jierpetrated a great crinu'. and proved false to the cause of liherty. II' they look at those papers, however. Ihey will tind there is another side to the ])ictuie whi'd) has heen cxhihited to them. They will iind that the honoralile gentlemen who have dilated at su(li length on the conduct of Mr. Lctellier. might have dilated, at some length also, on the conduct of his advisers ; they will lind that, if the conduct of the Lieutenant-Cicvernor was extraordinary, the conduct of his advisers was still more extraordinary ; they will find that, if the conduct of Mr. Loteilier has Imt few [trecedent^ in iSiili-l; i)arliam"ntary history, that of his adviser.- has nom,' at all. Tiiev will lind ihat 06 i?l'KECII Ilia adviser.^ systemiitically ti'iunpleil dnun tlie VDyal prerogative, tlu; liberty of the i)ei)()le, and the civil rifihls of the pi.'ople ; that the },'overmnent of (iuebec Avas I'ar^t falling INTO TIIK HANDS (>V AX oLK.AliCMV. wiiich eoiiiph'tely (liari'jiarded the royal authority, and remembered the peo[)le only to put new burdens upon it. They will find that this oli.uarchy was itself ruled by rinu;:^, the greedy ai)petite of wiiich had to 1)8 fed from the public treasury ; and that the trea- sury nail lo he rci)icm>iiea by the |KM)iiM'at tl>e price of th(Mr civil liberty ; that since the days ol kintr John no such attempt was ever made on the liberty and civil rij^hts of the peo[)le in any part of the IJritish em))ire. Mr [.otellier, to the lon<r array of cluir.Lces a.u;ainst him, mi<j;ht answer in the lanp;uage of the old Roman, who, beiuir broupht to the forum t(t answer an accusation, merely said : " T swear I have saved the country. " Hut the parallel could not go any farther; the historical chara<^ter to whom I have just alluded had committed a crime, while >rr Letellierhas committed no crime. IIK KXKRCISED A UriillT !■' ) he had the abstract ]>ower ti> exercise. It is said the exercise of it was unwise; but, in tlie estimation of the ])eople of Quel)eo. that unwise act has saved the coun- try. Thi'^ opinion is not held simply by a political party, but is shared l)y the great majority of the people? Avhich no one knows !»etter than the Premier himself. He is aware that thousands who voted for him in the late elections supported Mr I.etellicr's view and his present Ministers, and would do so again. Before I dismiss this branch of the subject. T will call your attention to the bluc-liook containing the petition of ^Messrs. Chapleau. Angers, and Cburch. asking for his removal. I call attention to this because it mav serve ON" THE I.KTKI.I.ir.R AKFAII! to ali'iw tlio cliMnictcr til' Mr TjOtollifr's adviser?, aiuT tlio justice lie inu«t have rcceivcfl t'roni tlioin. Tliey set (<>n\\ thill : 111 his roiauiuniciitioii to liis Exoolli-ncy tlm (lovi-rnor- (if'ticral, respectin.i; the utoio.said <U*ini'"-iil. ^fr LetcUii-r mailo stiitPtiK'iits ut)su))|pi>rt(''l liy ami in contiinliiMion with the olli- cial ilii 'ainiMit^, in '.vliiih they ichU"'. •md tii.it, iii the (ipiiiiun of till' uu'iei'.-i;^iii- i, vi/.,l>ii' j)i'litiiiii,M-,>ii('ii ei'ion.'ous stiiti'iiieiits (;oiilcl iint have lioon iiiinle hy iiiistnk<' or laihiri' (iT nifmoiy. Xii morf uriovotis cliariio coiihl lie inado against any ;j.ciitleni.in l«'(>ui;ht U|) innh!- P.riti.>-h ich-as of lionour. accoKliiiij; to which a tientlcniaii's woi'd i.s sacred. Now, what Avc.'rc tlie I'act-^? Tlu.'fo statenu'iits Avere snlmiiUed in connection with tlio.se ot'Mr Letel- lier in lii« nieinorial tu Lord I)utrerin, to the effect tliat \\\^ anthnrity had ahvavH lucn eoniph.'tely DIsUKOAHDKIi nv U\< ADNIHKKS, and. a? an illustration of his char<:'e. he in.atanced two ]iroi'laniations which had heen puiilished without his i^iguature. The jictitione'rs allege tiiat i-tatiMuent is xtntrue, as they say Mr. Letellier well knew, and that, in tact, the jiroclaniat ions, when they were puhlished, bore his i-iunature. What is Mr. Jietellier".s answer to this charge of wilfully and designedly alleging an untruth ? !!(> says his attention was <'alled to the ])Uhlication of those proclamations liy his private secretary ; that. thereu{)on. he wrote to Mr. De IJou- (dierville, who came and ackowledged the error, and that, in his presence, anil in i;rder to set the matter right, he ajipended his signature m the original pro- clamations, Here is a I'luuplete defence, wliicdi. T in.-ist. shows the had faith of the traduceis of Mr. Letellier. If the charge against him had heen true, they were hound, in inuiuur. to ciill the attention of the House and Ilis Kxcellency to the I'act. and to demand the evidence of Mr. De Itoucherville, since ;Mr. Letellier gave him as having been witness to 7 98 sriECK l! I > !■ Ilia {ipi)entling his sij^'niiture to the pvncliunationf . Tf they couhl not liave lujiintained tlieir thiuge. thc-y Mere houiul to admit tlieir error. Their rejoiudf r was unworthy (jI' leaders of a great party; their answer WiMo a mere (luihbling of lawyers, such as would not b' xi)eeted from men of honour. They say in their rei»iy to liis explanations : Dealing with tliat port of the Lieiiteiiant-Goveiuor'.s answer wliiiii hears n]ion one of the ehiiiges contiiinecl in the petition, and in which iio states in cnntnKliction to olhcial and authentic <loouiiitnts, that lie signed the jitoclamjitions referred tf; ; iter tiieii' piddieation, thi^ uuilersigned repiest-nt Hint thirt e.xplanat on is of no value, in ]iicsenee of the iaet.s estahlis';j'I ' .. thf piociamations hearing his signatuie, and the dates at Aviiicli tiiey were signed. It is ditlieult to undei- stand how the Lieutenant-' iovi'iiioi can hear evidenci' against liis ( .vn signature, aid exjieot that his statement uj^on the poini n be ciediteii. Ill their rcjo' dcr, they do not rcall'irm their accusation, viz., tliat the i)roclaniatioiis: were signed hefore their public jition. liut they say that Mr. Letel- lie could not lie admitted to aflirm the fact that ho had only signed thcni afterwards. Tf they had hecn in earnest in this, thoy would liave called" for j\Ir. De llouf hcrvillc's evidence ; and now. when it apjiears that Mr. Letellier signed the ]»ro(ljiniati(ins t.r jiaf^t facto, ills enemies attempt to deny him the liorjcfit of the fact. and charge him with an untruth. Tf the charge made against Mr. lietellier iiad hcen true, it would have been of the most damaging character, but. being not true, the cluirge must redound with e(iual i'orce against his traducers. liut. wluthei' .Mi-. TAdellier's action was constitutional or not. a far more imiiortant (luestion, to m}' mind now arises : 1I.\S THIS llotsE AUTIK.HirV to en(juiie into that act and condeiiin it ? Tf this motion was proposed simjily to elicit a purely abstract ox THK LKTKI.I.IKK AIFAIU DO exi)resr-ion of oi)iiiion whicli winiUl remain liarrou of result, we might have discussed it to our lieart's eon- tent, just as wo might discuss any other (juestion wliich any honorahle gentleman might choose to 1)ring ; just as \vr might discuss the recent events in France and the causes which led to Marshal Mac- Mahon resigning the ])residency. l>ut, if this motion is intended tn he. as indeed it is. a picgnant motion, if it is to he followed up. if passed, hy the censure and dismissal of .Mr. f.etellier. then T suhmit respecti'ully and earnestly that this House has no authority to emiuiri^ into and condemn his conduct. T allirm that proiiosition and invite its discussion. Of course, F would not go the length of saying that wcnever could in any case interfere in jirovincial matters, and no honorahle gentleman on the other side of tlie ]Iou.=e will alHrni that we would iiave that right of interfer- ing in every case. Since then, we will agree that this House has the power to interfei'c IN SOME CASES. Not IN AM .; where is the land-niark to he found, where is the line to he drawn, uj) to which it must he legitimate for this House to interfere and heycnd which it woitld lie crimin.'il for it to do so. T think the answer has heen given hy the House on several occjisions. The Constitutional Act gives the Federal Fxecutive the \:o\vcr ol' tlisallowiiig provincial laws. This power heing given to the Fxecutive. it foUows that the exer- cise of it is hrought within tlie jurisdiction of this House, {(> wiiich the Fxecutive is resjionsihle. The doctrine is now well settled tliat this [lower of disal- lowing proviricial laws is to he conlincd to thosecases only where I'rovincial r.egislatures n)ay have stepped heyond their jurisdidioo hito pi'iihihited ground; that this power is to lie exercised only for tlie protec- tion of Tnijierial or Federal ri,::hts which may have heen invaded hy I'rovincial Legislatures. 1'Ut nc ver to alVonl relief to anv section of the coniiuunitv in 100 •I'KKril tlic p'-ovinrf; wliii'Ii may doi'in ilscly iijTLM'icved liy tliiU IcKishitiiiii. The ddctrilK' is now well settled tliai, if V rovmciiil ,('tiislattir(> ■ci) williiii the lurirtdlc tioii whitdi U alU)tt('(l to them liv the rdii-tilutiiui. liDWcvor ddidUri their hiws mav lie. hi iwevei- (h'S|i()tU! and tyrannical. howMjver desiruus l)i>th the Kxr'cutivo and tiietiovcrniricnt might l)e (d'aHnrding roliefagainst pueli la-\V:S, yet tliis Ifnino will not iiitei'fei-e. hecnuse iiiterffirencf! in such ca<e,-4 would he i f i; )' I i + .1 A VIOLATION Ol' I'llK I'KliKl; A I, IM; I M I TIK, ami. ill all such ca^os, the a^<!;i'it'ved portion ot' tlie comm mity mast .seek, and ean I'md its relicl'in the ai>plicatioM oftho juincipU of resijonsihle Liovern- mt'nt. The ))('oi)U' ean a,<iitate and lliey ean vote, and a peo))lo who eai: vote ha.« in its han(hw the instru- ment wlieroliy to rodross all its grievances, the wea- ])on to avenge all its wrongs ; and those who ])elieve, as T do. in the odicacity ot' respon.sihh- govoi'nment know that these weajions are aiii])ly acleqii.ite. and tliat. with tiicm. truth and justice will prevail in the end. Tl'sueh he the rule I'or legislative acts, .such must Ite tlio rule with regard to admiiii.stration, hecause administrative act.s are. as legislative acts, suhject to the judgment ofthe ]ie()plc. who may ];rv>- nounce ujion them in a regular way. Now. as regards the Lieutenant-! iovernor. under the constitution, the laws says that he shall he removahle Ibv cause ; hut what can cause he? T helieve that thes(> causes of removal can well he offences of a ])crs(inal clnracter. hut never oirence? connected witli the discharge of duties of an olhcial character. Tf. foi' instance, the Lieutenarit-Ciovernor. iiv some grossly dishonourahle conduct, hrings the diunity ofthe ( row ii into con- tumely, this and similar otfences might he causes of removal: hut. if he .sticks within the circde ol' his functions, however tyranni(>al his acts may he. he is not removahle. hecause he is 0\ THK T.KTKI.I.IEU AKKATI! 101 (OVKKKD r.Y MINISIKklAI, KK-rnNs| IIII.IT V. He is nniPiialilc In llic ]um)|i1c. who can not him rijiht, il'.tiiey lirlit'vo hiiu wtdii^-.aud undo what ho lia.s dune. Ifit wore otiiorw i.-*o. ii the llou.sf had pnwor to inter- 1'oro liocauso the liioutoiiaut-( iovi rnor hud oircd in tho di--chari;i' ol' his olli -ial dutv, it wouhl ho an in- tiinirnnout I'll tiio piinciph'S of iv.^|j(Hi.sihle tiovi-rn- ment and an alni.se of l-'cdcial ri^lit.s. It has heeii stated, over since this discus.sinii has hecn coninicncod, thtvt tlio Liout('nant-( lovornor <»r (iuohcc aetcd arhi- tmrily, witliont tlie advice ol' his constitutional ad- visers. If sucli lie the opinion of this House, it was not tlie opinion ol" the Le>iislatur(> m' Queliec. The Leo-jshiture of Qiudiec on several occasions expressed its opinion tlial tlie act of Mr f A-tellier w as witliiu the exorcise of his functions, and covoretl l)y Ministerial rosponsihilit V. Tho(iuestion has heen lirouuht several times liefore the House, and the opinion in eacli case has lieen precisely tlie same, On the 8th March last, a motion wa- made for a petition against fvieuti'naut- (rovernor iiClellier, to he presonteil to I lis l^xcellency the (Jovernor-( ieueral. the Senate and House of Com- luons. A point of order w;H raised upon the ;^round that the ])etition was injurious lo His i'lxcellency the Lieutenaiit-(iovernoi. Tlie S|)eaker, on that occasion, irave the following ruling: It is an essential piiucijilo of inomiri'liical constitutinnal go vevuiaeiit that tlu' down can (.'omiuil no wionir. The LitnUe- nant-< iovenior rein'osi'nls tiie Crown in iMir Lt'irislatures. It is tlierelbro necessary that tliL-re should l>e, near the Sovereign, near the Lieutenant-Governor, advisers, Ministers, wiio always bear the responsiliilitv wliirli (^an never he laid on the <'iown, and to the eontinnaine of liiat respon^ihility there can be no limit. And although use is male of the ti.-rni " Liiutenant- Govornor " in tiie .\ilress(^s, us also in the measures suhuiiltcd to the House, from the very nature of our oon^titution these words are addressed only to the .Ministers who are re.sponsihlo to the Assembly. The person i^vcn of the Sovereign, in his representative, is never brought in (piestion. In the present case, the conijilaints contained, in the nu'tion. apply J 102 spEiair to tlie fvlvisers of His KxcfUency tlio Lioutenaiit-fio- VPiiior, — aii'l I iiui.st, tlierrl'oro, <locluro it in oi'ilcr. Ami to his ruling;, BOTH SIDES OK TIIK IIOl'SK ASSKNTKD. 1 In the month of June hist, the fiOifishitive Council nf (iuehei — !Uk1 I may say tliat tliore is not a moreCon- servati^re l)o(ly undov the sun — dechircd the same doc- trine ; it was moved and a<rreed to •• Tliat His Kxcel- leney the l>ioutenant-< Jovernor was advisi'd to dismiss liis Ministers in March hist, at a time when tliey en- joyed the contidence ol'hoth branches of the Legisla- ture '". Now, here we liave an opinion ol'hoth branches ofthe Letiislature of Qut^hec that Mr Letellier was fully covered by Ministerial responsiljility. T ask. therefore, if the act of Mr Letellier, au covered bv Ministerial resjionsibility. is an act suliject to tin; censure of this House? Can Mr Letellier be respon- sible at once to liis Ministers, who are responsilde to the House of Asseinl)ly. and at the same time to tli<; House of Coiiimons? iUit it will I)e sakltbat thcres- ])on9iliility of Mr Letellier's Ministers isapure lletion. This fiction, however, is the very life of responsible jfovernment. If you do not acknowledge it this time, Avhat will jirevent you from acknowledjj;ing it else- where? If you acknowled<ie it this time, you are liound to follow it to its legitimate consequence, which is TIIK .IfDO.MENT oK TIIK PKoI'l.K and no other judgment. Now, it lias been said that Mr Letellier's act has not been approved by tbepeitple. I desire now to say a few words on this (piestion. Tn approaching this subject. T feel a good deal like a, prol'essor of a college, who once sai<l lie wanted to ])rove, by a long disijuisition, the light of tlie snn at noon. < >ae pui)il .it once said it was suiUcient for him to look at the sun. Tn a like manner, it will perhaps ON TME I,ETKI,LIEI{ A I'I'AI 14 ]0;5 bo sulii.^ient for honorahh; gentlomon t!) look at what now t'xist:* ill tlie province of (iaelte<!, in order to be satisfied tliat Mr iiOtellier's (Jovernnient iiad a majo- rity. Wlien a vote ot" want of contidonco was l>roui;ht a<iain.st the Joly « iovcrnment, upon the Address, it i.s true tiiat the motion was carried by a vote of ■'!-* to ol. This vote, however, was taken not in a full IFouse, and at that timt? another motion was immediately hroiigiit in, atHrminf)f the confidence of the peoi)le in the new (iovernment, which motion was alUrni'jd in a full House. But tliat was not yet the best evidence. Tiie best evidence is thi- : O.i the Sth .March, Mr An- fj;ers, the ox-Attorney-(leiieral. moved tlu^ following; amendment to the Sup[)ly Hill : — That tlio J'liU bo not now roii'l : hut tlmt tin' ii'diliiig tli'Ti'ot he suspendeil until such tiiiio ii-s justioo .sluiU iiuvo hc.ni ron lorcd to thn mijoritv of tiiis ilousc, in .'is much as, \vhcn til" resolutions upon which the saiil Bill is hiiseil were ailoptf'l, tilt,' ( 'ahini't cliar,i.'eil with the iiuhlic liiisiucss enjoyed the c intidenci' of this IIou>e and of the country, whilst th<' |ireseut A hnini'^tratiijn does not jiossess tlrit cc)n(idoni'e. Now, Mr speaker, th'.it was TlIK TltiE CONSTITI'TION.M. KEMKDV. at i n Ito iit im Tf an injustice had l»een done, there was a true le^^il remedy in the liauds of the province. Tf the supplies had been refused, Mr. fiCtellier would have been com- pelled to take back his old (Iovernment or re.~i,u'n his ]jositioti. lUit. Sir, when the new House, t'resii from the people, elected upon this very issue, met aj^ain, tlie supi)Iic3 were! voted. Ts there a man in this House who will say tliat justice has not been done to th.e late (iovernment of (Quebec, since they themselves have been condemneil by the tribunal to which they appealed? I hold, Sir, that this motion, now in your hands, cannot lie carried if there is any flense of justice in the House. The prenuses of the motion do not warrant the conclusion. In the laniiua^e of the mover 101 .-"I'KIIC'II unci Hoctiiulor. il is oxpectcil tlii« iiintinu into l.c'ii voti' of cciiHurc on Licutciiiiiit-I iuvcDior Lctcllicr. to Ik' jiiiMii|>lly l'nlU)\vc(l liy (li^^iuissiil. fl'Mr. Lctcllicr lind (Mtiniiiitl(.'<l II criiue, what more ((luld vuu ilo IF f 1.- ii'd fliiir;j;('(l wUli li!ivin<jt uutcd iirliitriirily. Init (nily witli liiiviiiLi ciiiuiiiiltcil an uiiwiso act. W'lio wniild liolicvd tliiit ;mi uuwiHc act dencrvt'S 8iud> puiiif^liiiiciit as (U.siiiiH.sal ,' 1 1' tlio motiou in carried, it will lie the lirst time a uroat deliherativt; l/ndy shall have atleiupted In puuish a man lor an act wliich i'- lejue- g«'ntcil as nothln;^- hut all error, .\M> SOT A Wll.ni, cIMMK. f i i ■ I •I ) ! f The matter ill dispute lit the present time is .-imply relatiiiL;' tn the ( xercise nf the prei'niiuti ve. i,ast year, (li(i hoUDrahle the Premier (Jiil not tli.simle the [irero- gative, hut he merely ar<riU'd that tlu5 exe rcif-e nf it was, in all cases, uiiconstitutioiml. The doctrinn o 1' liuuoralile j;entlemoii oi)pnsite ha? never yet heen rornially recorded in the Ilritish rarlianient. and all the authorities liave heen, so far, coutrary tf il. There are nunu'rous authorities to .«how that the Sovereign, whatever his name lie, can dismiss his Ministers for cause, and T would hejj; upon this suliject lo cite the opinion of Lord Urouulnun. He said this : ir they ucrc tDi'ii iiinoiiLr tliciu-clvc.-^ by cnillcss di.-.^en- jsioiis, it' tlicy (lilt'ored In mi the Soveri'i.^ii, il' tln-ir measuics wen^ evidiMitly niinnii^. if (li,«!ioni)in' abiDiiil ;iiid disiister at home marked the will lie tcnour of tiioir .iioveniiiuMit, any of tlicsi.' miu'lit lie cmi^titiitioiial !.'rounds for tlieir ili-;iuissal : ruid, iiliovc all, il' tiiiMc liHp|ieiU'd tn 1)0 a ;^innT;il feeling' of ili>tni>t, and disjii|ini'i,itiiin tliroic'liout tin' comiiry, tlmt would lie a eiullli'ient irriiuuil loi- -iioh a pi()e(jdure. Now, .Mr. Sp(>al<er. I sujipose Mr. L(!tellier had this authority in view when hedismisscd his Minir-try. T. suppose he had in view this, that he could dismiss Ids .Ministry it' there h!ii)])ened to he a general feeling of distrust and disai)probaiion in the euuutry, and I ■ nN IIIK I K'Ii:i I.IKII Al-I'AIU K*') tliiit tlicri' wiis :i gt'iiovMl fcflinix '''" distrust hihI tliMi]!- \tr(ii'iitiiin, till) res 111 t of tlic !i|i|ie!il to the cnuiitiv lia.s hliDwn; till' I'lut tliMt till- il ismis.-cd ^rt'iitleiaci) caiuc liiii'lx iViiiu tiic t'lffliiins ill iiii iiotu;il iniinirity was sullicieut cviiloiK'f III' it. ir.Mr Lcli'lliiT acti.'il iiiinn thirf iiiitln'i lly til Justily liiin in wiial in- iliil. wlin will dare to (•(■iisuic liiin? lUit il in iii>i<trd tlwil lie \\ as not ju-ti lied in tin' exercise nl'tlu! iiieiH;;-;itive. Tiiirf doctrine. Imuever. Iia- nut yet been Iniind k rurded in the jnurnals III' tli<; I Imise ut' ('oniiiinns nl' Knulaiid Tlieri'l'oio, I say, Mr. l.etellier has acted l.N (,ii(U> I'AITll, and he has ffood autlmrity to do what ho did. ft' he ueled in ifood laith, thoiin-ji lie may have acted uiiw ise- ly and uneon.stitutionally. will Iherc; he riiiind a iiiaJHrily in this House to say this man is to lie een- suied and dismissed lieeause he may liavo Mited unwi.sely. Again, I apiieal to the .sen.sc of justice and of rairness of Imiiorahle neiitleineii ' iin the si-liT proviiiee.s. Tt may In,' that upon i 'I'casi ii. I would not lie just i tied in makinjj,' lids aii|n il, hul lliey have lieen apiiealed to in the name of lihtTty, and il is also in the name oflilirrty that 1 Jiiipeal to them, n would he a very serious tliitej, for tins liou-c to .step lieyond its jurisdiition. I have lited from Lord r>rou,i:liaiii to show that the action of .Mr. lictellier •was justified. You may say that, though he has fol- loweil the ojiinion of fiord i'.rougham, he has acted unwisely. 80 he it. lie h:is aiii>eale(l to the people und you may say the peo[jle iiave acted uiiwi-ily. I sav. so he it again. I'ut what righ.t have vou TO <ri!sriTri-K miIi; wishom ir the wisdom of the [leople of Queliee ? It icay 1 •e that our notions uf right and wronji: mav not le C"<iua il to the standar;! of other provinces, though J am imt prepared to admit that. Uut, whatever may he our 106 Hi'EECH m> U 'I ,1- '4^ Si I i ptandarcl in tliis respect, wLiethor low or hif^li, what T a.ok in tlio name oftlie province to which T hehjnjj.' is tliat we sliould ho governed according to our own standard — that we shouhl he allowed tiie ])rivilege ot" heing ])adly governed, if l)eing governed hy our- selve.'^ meant l)ad government, Imt, at all events, to be governed 'y ourselvef-:. This T ask in the name of iiherty an(l self-government. There can Vie no <h)ulit. Sir, of one tiling, and tliat is that, if tliis mo- tion is carried, it will Ije an invasion ol'tlie ])riiiriple3 • f federal ederal government. It is a matter ot regret, ^n•. that this first attack upon federal government sliouhl have come from the province of Qucl)ec. We were reminded, yesterihiy. hy the honnrahle memher for ITalton, that, if we have to day a federal form of government, it was owing in a grent measure ti> the peculiar position of the province of <iuehec, wliich is so diff(!rent to the other i)rovin(;es on account of its origin. T rcmemher, at the time this system was l)Ut in o])eration. it was extnlled to the sky for this very reason, that it gave to the people of Quehec a free, independent an(l untrammelled government. T have in my hands now a pamphlet whicli was issued in 1S()7, as the campaign sheet of the Con- servative party of the province, for the first general election which took ])lace ofter Confederation. The very first ])age of the ])am])hlet contains this e.\plosi<ni of (Mithusiasm : Sinc<Mlif> lirst (>f .Fiily. l^ilT, Lo\\(>r < "aim lu is now iiilt'd uiii|<»r ,1 nmv iiinli' ol^;i)vciMim('iit : it i< ii(iinari> Lower' '.lUiu lit, it i-i till' pi<i\ iiici'i)r(.iiifln'C : with thi-ol<l l'"i'eii«h niiiiu', \v!ii<'h has heen n'storcil to us, \vj ii;ivy Imn'Ii ^'iVi'ii a Freiidi liov- vtM'tior, uu'l all truly patriotic souls li.ivc thrillod with Joy, and witii a noble pride, wlien the iiewspiqiers iiave told us that the cannon in the old intaiel ot't^uelieL' had roan -il its great Voice to salute tlie lir>t l'"rencli (inveruor siucc^ lii'io. Wo li.ive been i^evered fpini Hpiier ("anada : our name is tlu' Pro- vince of t^iiel>»c : we iiave a freuch Canadian < iovtu'iior, t!i(> second since t Ijc i^st.nbli-^lnnent ol' tin' coiuitry : wesh;i!! luv(? oiu' own • ioverinnent and our own Parliament, whei<' ivery- tliin;' shall bo done hv ami tor tin- French Canadians, and in ON THE I.ETEI.I.IEK AFFAIR 107 llie French langua;;i'. LMk; must 1)6 a renrga'li', or, wliut i.s the (•iviiie tliiii;:, an anin-xationidt, not to lie nioveil to tears, not to feel the heart licatini,' with an indescribable joy and witli a very legitimate jHifle, at the thoiife'lit of those gioiiou.s results ot the jjatriotism and the indomitable energy ot'oiu' statesmen t ofoiu' j)olitical leaders, who, one hundred years alter tiie eon- • jue.'* of tiie country by England, have decideil the lattei', already impressed by our heroism and our loyalty, to restore us toourselvo-;. to restore to us our complete autonomy, and to confide the saered trust otour natir>nal traditions to a (iov- •M-nment (siiosen amongst us and composed of our own people. Wlio do 3'ou tliink \v:is the iiuthor of these lyrical strains ? Why it was no less than my honorable friend, the menilior for liati^ot (.Mr. Mousseau) 7H"»^"// muia- lits ah >lln. Why the very man who tlius rejoiced in l.SC.T tJKit we had Ijeen restored to ourselves, that the .sacred trust of our natif)na]ity had heen confided to a (Jovernmf;nt <d'our own, that we had heen separated from I'pper Canada. — that very same man is now nskini;- not only rp]»er Canada, ))Ut Nova Scotia, New-J>rnn3wick. and thi; islands of the Atlantic and the islands of the I'acitic, to vouiv to our iud and pro- tect the sacred trust with which we liad heen entrusted. I remember, Mr. Speaker, tlio time when our alliance with Upper Canada was looked ujjou AS TIIK I!I'i:|;1-:AR of IoWKK CANADA it was looked ujtonas a demoniacal alliance, the source of all our evils. Now, Mr. Speaker, if the honorable member for Ba^-ot was in eni'ucst nt the time wIkmi he HO ri'joiced at bein^' r(>lievcd i>f an alliance witli Upper Canada, and if he is in earnest now when Im? is askin<( tlie people of Ontario, Nova Scotia, New- Hrunswick, Manitoba, and the other provinces, to take a part in our provincial affairs, ho mu-l Icel somewhat like the man in the Scripture, wiio, haviiifj had a devil expelled from his body, had Ids liody re- entered liy that same (h'vil, and seven move. Now, Sir, if we, tlie people of (iuel'cc, in whose favor this I* > % W i! KiS SPEECH fniilV-dfi-iition litis l)ccn es^tnlili.^lu'd. arc to Ijo tliolirst to attiick it ; if we are to lx> the lir-^t to lay ji sacri- le;fciius liaiiil U|)(m t!H^sacr(nl ark ol'our liberties, how loii.L' can we expect that the system will be niaiii- tuiiicd? If we are to be the first to attack the federal systciK. tiie Lfun of the citadel at (iucbec will have again to roar its great voice, to ring the death-knell "four provincial liberty. Sir, T need not repeat here that the federative \niion of these jn'ovinces was cfTccted nn that {)riiiciple, im account of our ix'culiar l)ositioii ill the [irovince of Quebec ; for this we are indebted to our fellow citizens and to the mother country. I have ol'ten asserted, and T do so now, that we in fiuebec will give way to none in our devotion to the mother country. There is not. on the face of th(; iJrilish empire, any class of Her .Majesty's subjects .Mo|;K DKVorKI) To TIIK P.UiriSII (KOWN than Tfer .Majesty's siiltjects of French origin. The attachment we have for the British flag springs from a ditTerent cause from that of other ih'itish sul)- jects. lint, if the cause Ix; ditTerent it is ccpially powerful. The attachment of our fellow-sul)ject3 of l']iigli.-h origin sinings irom nature, while our attachment springs from the heart, fmui gratitude. We love the I'.ritish ling, because under it we havt! found liberty and happiness. At the same time, we arc the desceiKhints of I'ranee, of that great natiori which has placed itselt', with l-'nglaiid. at t he head of modern civilization; we have derived from our origin peeuliaritifs, characteristics, institutions, which we look upon as a national inheritance, and to which we t'ondly cling. \ am bound to say, Sir. that our na- tion.'il institutions liave ever been resjiccted by our lellow-subjects of llritish origin, and T have no dfuiitt that il'thesafeguards which we have in the fede- ral system were removed, we would not exjicrience tVoiii our fellow-eiti/.ens iinv other than the uniform ON THE I.ETKLI.IKK AFKAIK l()i> ur ('. )ii of rin ir kind and Licufrous treatnuMit that wo have always re- ceived. Vet. .Mr. Speaker, the circumstances which existed in 1S67 ST 1 I.I. KXIST in isyS ; those circumstances wliicli induced our statesmen in lSr.7 tn give us a federal Inrm of gov- ernment and imt a legislative I'orm still exist. Our legislators at that time iliDUght it hest to give us a I'edera! Inrm ol" government, more cumhersume and more expensive though it he. on account of the sujje- rior liherty which it gives to the people ; and so long us the sy-lem shall lie in ojieration. it will 1k^ the duty dl' every patriot to see that its principles are main- tain(>(i in letter and spirit. Looking upon this mo- tion 9 T do, and as, indeed, it must he looked U]ion. as an invasion of the fundamental ])rinciiile of Con- i'ederation. 1 deem it to he the duty, uiion this occa- sion, of every patriot to vote down this motion, widcli. if carried, would sti'ik<' a most severe hlow at the {)rinci]d" which liimls these province.'- together. !e m --t AN AFFECTING SCENE IN THE HOUSE 1 INKRAL PANECVRIC OF Mu. llOJ/rON • 111 tlio l.'itli ^raich, ISSd, till' (-'iiiiiiiliaii Parliament was in niouiniiiLi-.Hoiioiahlc Mr.lioltoii.oncot till' vcteianr- and iim^t (li.stiiiL'uishpd liL'Uics of (,'iviiailian politics. liailjti.-t (lii-<i, and the iioiKiiabk- Ml-. Mackenzu', leader of the ()ii[)Osition. attempted to paiiegyi'i/.o the niemoiy of his old friend, hut the task was too iiuiidi lor his sti'<Mij.'th, and. overcome with emotion, he re- ((iie^tt 'I Mr. haulier to eontiniie in his stead. It is this toueli- iuji sfi'iR'. wliii'h is depieteil in the tollowing extiaet from the l>iliiil(s : Mr .Mackcn/.ie ; — T nuiy say, Sir. tliat every one will jiiin liearlily in the very just remarks nuule hy the Inmoralile .lienllenieii ojipn.'^itc. and e:J)iecially those who have long t'elt Mr. llolton'.s inllncnce and known liis excellent personal i|Ualities. It is iinpos- siMe I'nr those w ho have I(in<;- been his assoeiates in ptiblic life. ti> estimate tiie f^reat loss that has hecii sustained hy his own party, hy the whole IIiiui;eaud by tlie country. 1 look ii|)on his death at thi< mo- ment, as it Wdukl be at any time, as ii national cala- mity, and 1 leel that anylhiiiL'' we can do. as his old cidlca-ucs in this ilmise, to convey a sense o|" tln^ impression we entertain of his gicat worth to the coun- try. esi»ecially towards ins bereaved I'ainily, shoubl be done. T feel mvsell' utter! v unable to .-jav (Til ■ honoralile ^ciitle.nen \\.i> here sn M\crciiini' a;- to 1,.- unaMe to piri'eed,; Mr F.aurier : — If in view of this .L'reat calamity, thi.- great national cttlamity, I were peruntti'd to I ; s : I ill I » Si i I 112 SPEECH speak witli iicr^oiial l't'('!iii,i:s. T would j^ny lliat tlR-re is no OIK' ill 1 lii'j ilou-it' wiia iia-* more that tuy.'^i'ir reason in lani'sif the doatliot'Mr Ilollon. Tt was my ))ri\'ili'Lii' wlicii r \va,s a very youujx man to lieconic a i'ricnd of Mr. Ifolton; and, from tliat mmiKMit up to tlio moiiicnt o| ids untimely doatli. many have iioen the ocea-inns 1 Inive heeii aide to ap|ivociat(' the many nolde (|Ualilies \vhi(di endeared him to all (Im-e who came in (ontact with him. Memhers ofihis House wild knew him oiilv as a })uLilU' man, wlio cou Id juili:e of him only from wh.^t took plaee on the tloor of the House, eiuid apjireeiato his nohle pul)]i<- oua- lities — they could a])preciate the loftiness of miml that prom]ited him in everything he did — they <M)uld ap- l)reeiate his entire sense ol' and devotion to duly, aud the n<)l>le way in which he carried out his conviclions of duty. Tlioy ciuild appreciate also the viiinur, exempt from hiUerness. the moderation, exempt finm weakness, with which he always del'endc-il his convic- tions. ]!ut they did not know the whole man. Those, on the other hand, who had the ailvaiitaire oi' his ]ter- Hoiial friendship, knew that his private virtues were on a par with his ])ul)lic virtues. They could appre- ciate his unflinchin^i- attaohnieid to his friends, his stronu' domestic atreelion. his larji'e and tender heart, which revealed itsell'in everythin.ti' whether great or small, lie is now no more, and the best tribute that could be paid to his meniory are the words which have fallen from the hoiKU'ablc First Minister's \\\)S, '" that his loss wmild be almost as much felt bv those Avliose views be cmiii)ate(l as liv .-e wliose I'pmions be upheld.'' Thmmh en<raged all his life in active political stru.LTule.s. thmigli all his life a strouL;' jiarty man, yet there is satisfaction in thethought that in this country, where political strife entail-) nunh bitteincss, lie has not left one single enemy bebiiu] him. liis loss will he mourned alike by his friends and politi- cal fo(\s, and all fc(.'l to-day that there is a ghiom in this hall which darkens it and which must tlarkeii it nut onlv lor this session but lor iiianv sessions to I y ON MK. IIi>I.T(»X3 PEATir 113 a '1 fil ; 1 '1 ; 1 ■1 1 a! ( ^k : 1' ' A Toiist to tlie Fi'ciidi Aeaikiiiy KKI'LV IIV Mil. LArillKR TllK l-l;KN( II ( ANADIANS AXU TIIK.Il; A.NcIKNT MoTlIKU lor.NTRV. Mr. Loui- I'rcc'liPtto, tin- n\n<t floijiU'iit oT the I'lciicli jjoft;- ot AiiKMic.i, luul liecii lioiKnt'il with the ciowiiiiiL' ul one ot liis works Viy tilt' I'l't'iicli .\(:iilciiiy. < Mi this occasion, lii.s Ijiiohcc aihiiiroi.s I'liti-rtaiiifd him at a ^raiul haii(|iU't on tlie 17th XovtMnltiM', l.SM). All the intelli.^encu ami the elite ol the society ol' the ancient caj'ital, without distinction of nationality weie jiic^ent. Called nj)on to rfply to the toast ot th" I'lench Academy. Mr. haniier spoke as loUows ; (TntiisliUloii) Mk. ClIAIUMAN AM> (ilCNTI.K.MtN, Ah the ('hainiiiin li;is aiuiiiunced. T have liow tlie lioiKir to jiropiisc the lieallli of tlic Krciicli Academy. In iiivitiiiL;- yiiu to drink tlii.s toast. T do iiot think I am called uiion to f-jieak (d' the learned j.ody, the focu.s of all the p;iorits, the lawmaker of liie language, and the isuprenM^ aildter in litei;,- ry matters. I mean the Fren( h Aeadeniy. as we know il. The Aeadenjy exists and that is snilieient ; it is nei'dless to say anytldng more; its history is enough lor its. I!ut T wouM like to remind you of iin Si'KKi II tlifi t-MniPVOHity witli whicli the I^roiu h Aciiilciiiy. sctliiijr nsidc u< dwh |i():-itiv(' lulc- and li<'Mrk('iiiii|^ only til the claiins (if Idmlrcil, Iimi^ rec>\;;ui/eil tl.<- fitic 1)1' iiur jioct, .^f^. I' roc'lu'ttc, to lie ro/ardcd im u Krt'nclmiaii and admitted liim, tlnuiuli an KiiL'''i-.li rtiiliject.to pai'ticipatinii in tliecoin|)elition open, aeeoi'- dinz to tlie Academy'-* I'ule:^, to I'reiuii citizens alone. Wiio liar^ read without emotion the aeeounl ol' the memoraldc mretim^ at wliicli .Mr. !'"re(diette wa.s crowned ? W lo iia.-i. unniovei liieliiri Ol 1 to h ini-'elt tl that \< eminent j^^atiierinu' ol'tlie re[)re.sentalive- in eontcMnporary Fi'aiUK!. eagerly .Meaiining tiie I'eatureH of the iirother iVom heyoiid tlio .-^eus, wiioui the Aeudemy was ]ire~cntinu- to tlifir ^jy inpaliiies .and ailmirntioii .' W'lio lia-, without I'ei'linu- tiic tears ri.-e unhiihleu to hiH eyes, read the speech ot.Mr. Camille Doueet, tli(! per])etual secretary of tlio Academy, slatinj.; the ohjcetious that iiad presented th^m-^olves a;j;ainst Mr. Frecliette's admis.sion to tlie competition and tlie nninner in wliich they iiad ijeen passed over. Mr. Fre- chette wii3 Ji liritish suhject and Ity the rule.s of tlie Academy no one was jiermitted to coniiiete unles.s he ■wa.s ;i Freiudi citizen ; l)Ut the.«e [lusitive laws were set aside l)y the Academy and the I'oreijrn poet was admitted io tlu; conipelition. the <j;round on wide h this was done heing that, it Mr. Fri'(di(;tte was not a French citizen, 1 ot' F'rencli oriu'in and who, notwitlistandinir event^ iiad remained I-'rench in heart and ,*entiinent. Mr. Caniille l)oucet"s sui)reme ar;,aiment to Justify liie Academy in havinii- admitted .Mr. Frechette, in violation of its rules, to all the jn'iviletres reserved excdusively for Frenclimen, revived cruel memories, but showed that the Academy had well jud.ued us. ^Ir. Doucet recalled ;i meeting held at .Montreal in 1>>70. at the n o-^t disastrous stn.ii'e of the war. to come to the relief of the i'^rench wounded and at which all present jrave enthusiastic proof of their French origin lelonged nevertheless to a people it,;,." AT TIIK I'UIICIIKTTK llAXUl'l'^T 117 and their invioliiMc attMclmicnt tn the t'Drtuncs of I'aiico Alas I ^•(■utlciiMiK the iwaiiiiik' was only too well clio-cn. Adversity is the cnu'ildu which tests all .sentiments, and it was in tin; evil days ol oui' <dd umthor enuntry that we I'elt how deeply w-- were nttaehod to her and how warmly we loved her. (ien- tlomen, [ take you to witne.s.s, ifthe wound left hy that eruel war ill the hearts of the ••liildi-en of Old France is in any respect mm-e painl'ul than the wound lei't hy it in the ln-arts of the clnldren oiXow France? It was when the lirst news of the disasters of tho Fren<'h army icaehed us that we iVslt how French we were. Who does not remomix'r the apectacle, in tho.-e niourid'ul day.s. of ti>e whole French population of Quelx'c masscil around the news|iaper ollices and waiting with painful anxiety for the telciiraph to j^ive tliem the result of the hattles of the previous day on the soil of their ancient mother country ? Who (h)Os not rememhei't he enormou-' crowds ijuivering with anguish and yet ready to thrill with emotion at the plighto.st ruy of hope and only dispersing when ihe fatal truth was no longer in douht ? And when the linal catustroiihe occurre<l, when we had to yield to the inevitahle. and when we had to resign ourselve.s to the conviction that Alsai e anil i.onaine were to he torn from I-'rance. T appeal to your recoljct'tion.s, gen- tlemen, if we were to \w deprived of one of our own memhers. was it not llie truth that we could not have suffered more cruelly ? Since that time, we have waited with as deep a conviction and as lirni a, lioi)e as those whom we [jcrsist in calling our Ijrethren over the sea fi^' the dav of revenge. The age is no lontrer on e in which populations may he violently torn fro ni their native country and annexed again.st their will to a government which is not a government of their choice. Tlu; time has passed when might can ]ier- manently overhear right. Pcseeudants of the Frencli race as we are and long accustomed as we liave l.ieeu to the amplest lilierty as English subjects, though lis Bl'EKCir V i i ^ lovidly 1111(1 [iriiiidly iiiulcr tlio sIukIkw (if the Mritish \\:\^^ procliiimiii;^' our Kroncli (irif^iii, w(mi1so liave t'uitii in this in('vitiil)le juHtic(( ot' liuiiuui tliinirs, to wliicli iin illustrioiiH stiitf.'mnan r(!r('rr('(l not lonjr siiict'. .More tlijiii one of iH, ill tli(! sin'lit of Krunct! so calm iind so l)alient, lias Itecii lod to liop(>, nay, to helit^ve that tin- day will (iiine when that old dovic*; of our country, wliich ijo(.'M back t(t the ».'arly da}'^ of the colony and is still to 1)0 seen inscrilxid on one of our i)ul)lic l)uil- dinus, will be reali/f>d in Kuropc : •Ii> suis im cliii'ii ((iii runi^n l"<)s Hii Ir r()ii;^t'iiiit, jii piiMids inoii rcpos ; rn,i')(U' viondra i|ui n'cst pas vntiu (iiiiiiml Jti uiiii'driu (jiii iii'aui'ii mordii. As for us, <fentlciii('n, we Iiavo our rcn'cnfito already. After tlu! linal cession of this country to the Crown of I'higland, our forofathors loyally accepted the new order of things and made a vow to them- selves that, il' the occasion ever arose, they would spill their blood as freely for their new sov(M'(Mgn as they bad done for their old ; but they promise(l thciii- pelves also that never sliould the French lanjjua^e, to the accents of which they bad been rocked on their niotbors' knees, (ligjij)pear from the continent of Ame- rica. \{ present, after the lajise ot' n century, the Frencii Academy honors us with the freedom of the city in the republi(! of French letters and pioclainis in th(> I'ace of the world that not only doen the French lan!j;ua<,'e still live amongst us, imt that it is worthy of the .-\cad* my. There, gentlemen, is our reveiii^e ; we ask nootlier. It is complete and we owe it to the French Academy. Tf it wore ])ossil)le for our voices to traverse space and cro«-i tlie ocean. W(! would send from tliisv'*' ball to the French Academy the tribute of our trr tude. The tbin<r is impossible, but whatiswili i our power is to acknowledue on the si»ot our indeliteo - AT TMK I'RKt'llKTTE RANQUKT 110 Ui'An to the viiHiint poet, who knockoil at the doors of th« Aciuh'niy, Wiis iidiiiitttHhiind ciiiuc forth crowneJ ; I'or, yeiitk'iiK'ti, Mr Frcchfttc'H rtUi're.H.s is not only u pijrsonal, but ii niitioiml success. And !i reiMiirl<iil)l(' t idn;,MiH Htatcil hy our Cliiiirniiin, which jtrovoH tho high o-tiniiitc in w hicli we hold lilicrty, in thin country, it is not oidy tiiose who f>\}i'i\k Mr. Frcciiettc's ton^nu! who rejoicH! in hi4 triumph; our i'cllow countrymen of P.ritish ori^dn rejoice uh wo do in his glory and (daim tlidr sliaro ofit. On;j;hl 1 toroi;all, liowcvcr. that <rncor(hint voices were tn hcfounij am )iiur oiir own French fellow eoun- trynu'n ? I only intuition the l'ai;t to remind onr ;^U'!.^t tliat in, ancient trium|)lH, any one who Mt inclined t) <lo so wa-^ jillowelio act a-< the tra luci^r ttf tin' reci- |tiiiit of the trium|)li, hut that it doiM not apjXMr that tiie iattor'.s laurels were ever.sidlic'd tlun-ehy. Hiptory has preserved the nanu!3 of th(> latter, hut it h;is dis- dained to speak III' the traducer. T mention this fa(!t .is areminder to all that iidmi- ration oi' tidcnt has never been jiud can never h(! incompntihle with diverjjjencitjs of opinion. This state- ment miiy not. periiaps, carry much wci<_dit, coming as it does from one who has fouj,dit under th(! same ban- ner and bolonjrs to the same school of political tlion<;lit as ho docs; liut. I'or tho benelil of those self-styled Catliolics, who, in th(,' nann? of reli'j;ion. when reliij;ioii is in no sense in <iuestion, insult Mr Freciiette's lame, T shall cite one example : I'nder the R."s(oratioii, there wa-< o:ie (lay, in the ))rison of I'aris. a. prisoner confined for a political otTcnce. \\i) hail i)ci'n condemned tor an ofTcnce cha- raciori/.ed by tiio prosecution as an outraj^n' at^ainst morals. His real otfenee was riddling with epigrams somewhat too keen the reigidng dynasty, of which he was a declared enemy. One da\ a visitor, already .vdvaneed in years, but an ar<lent I'riend of tlie reigning dynasty, called to visit the prisoner, (lentle- nien, the prisoner was Dcran ger tl 10 visiior waa I'! 120 ?rEKCII 1' J H f.! 'l '^ i i 5. I diiitc>;iul)riiui(l. Some yeav-5 lator. a new revolution liail ulaccil tlie younger l)ran( h of tJu- JJourbmis on till! llii'one ol' France, and there \va3 also a prisoner detained lor a i>olilical ofl'e nee Jle liad been eon- dejaned lor ])ubli9hing a, newspaper article on the occasion ol'a press law. His real oirence was having inanil'ested too openly his attaciiment to the fallen <lyna..sly, the elder i)ranch of the same house. One day. a visitor ealkid to visit the jjrisoner. This time, the prisoner was Chateaubriand ; the visit- or was JJeranger. (ientlcmen. as you know, between Chateaubriand and lieranger, tliei'e was luttliing in common but labjnl. ISoth had in common wliat Najio- leoii. in speaking of Chateaubriand, had ternuMi tlie sacred tii'c. Tn every other res})ect, they wer(> dissi- milar. ])i'ranger wa< not a Chi'istian. Chateaubriand was profoundly Christian. Ciiateauli riand had pub- lished a book, whieii. without contradiction, was one i) ftl le luo st eloiiuent and certainlv the most cour 1- geous defences of Christianity since Tertullian. Mr. Freciictfe's adversaries will admit, perhaps, tliat it reijuired more courage and more I'onviction to write the Ciriili i/ti ('hi-lsliiiiils)ni\ the day after the French llevolutiini. than it does to make on every occasion a parade of orthodoxy in our good province of (Juebec, in the year of grace, ISSK. Vet. when Chateaubriand went to visit iJeranger, lie did not to preter.il to lherel)y alxlicate any of liis religious convictions or to liecome resi)onsil»le for lieranger's o|)inions. lie was sim])ly the man of ge- nius paying homage to genius. It is a consolation for humanity to know that there are higher spheres in which lofty minds can mt^et on common ground, without being ex])osed to the lamcntaldc bickerings and divisions of daily life. Ileic. genth'men, is the idea which ins))ireil this meeting. Those, who are gathered to nigiit around this festive board are here to i>ay homage to .Mr. Fre- chette's talents as a jioet ami to pri>ve thai they es- teem above all that incomparalde Frencli language, ^> I i i-'i ill (1—— AT THE I'RECHETTK RANQL'ET 121 tiou s on oner Cllll- Ihc Hon nor. isit- i in t])0- the is.si- and ' )Uli- n-;i- Mr. t it |vitc u ' n (•(■ ^V in tlio use of wliich. according to tlio evidence of the Aciidemy. Mr Frecliette is the equiil of tli e lic^t in France. (ientlemen, I liave again the honor to |)1(iii()ro tlie health "f the Freneli Acadcinv. r-r, or or ill i i 1 t 1 ' 1 i ; ■» 1 If; i (•' '* I f Tk Construction of tlie Pacific. CRTTTCTSM OF THE CONTRACT ENTKUKD INTO WITJI THE SYNDICATE. (SjH>f>oh inacle in Eii^'lisli by Hon W. l^iiuiior, in tlu' House oC ('oiainoiis, iit its sitting of tiio 21st DccenihiM', ISS(i;. Ml;. Spkakkk, TluM'ontract now before U3. and wliicli tlio House is iiskod to -siinction, is the last and crownini:- conse- (juence til' tho principle laid down ten years a^n l)y the (iiivernnient then in ixnver. when th(\v introduced the Canadian I'aeilic Railway sehenie. and which wa^ : that tills railway should he built hniiK'diately and without interruption until its eom]detion. Tt must i)e clear. tVoni the remarks of the member for Richmond and Wolfe (Mr. Tves). with repanl to the position oj' the two areat parties, ihat, at the outset, the ij;round taken by the Conservative i)arty was this : the rail- road should be built inimediately. and without inter- ruption till finally completed : whereas the ])olicy of the Liberals was that it should be built jj.-ru(lually as the wants of the country should recpiire and its re- sources permit. The reason uri:cd by th(> leader of the CoiT^crvativc party Jor the immediate completion of the rt>ad was. that it was a necessity of ('onfed(>ration which would otherwise remain incomplete. Tt"it was. it was not a necessity of Confeib-ration as ]irimarilv estaldished : nor was it !i necessity that sjiranfr from anv natural cause. Tl" it was, however, svich a n<>''e-j- Ill ei ii M 12-1 Si-EKCir sity, it is pcrluips tlio si-verpst connr.entniy upnn tlio ]>olicy fulldwiMl p.umo. years ii.uo <>|' croatinii' wlinle }tr(iviiicps oul (if the wilderness, and of cnddwinii llieni with all tlie institutions and hixiiries with wliieh ])i'o- vin('o> with hirge popuhitions must he su])]ilioil.wliile in these eases there was MAU(i:i.V ANY •(ilTI.ATid.N. Honorable gentlemen opiiosite will rciueniher that tliey receive! aniiile warning not to create that stiiti; ol' things which would l)iQd this country to the iniiue- iliate coniiiletion of the road. They were reminded that if they did so they woidd lie putting a hurilen on this country too heavy for its strengtii to hear ; init they did not heed these warnings, they forced their followers to vote tor this i)olic,y, ami now, as a crown- ing eonseijuence of that ])oiicy, their t'ollowers are asked to conseit to the enormous sai'ritices involved in this contract. If \ recall these facts, it is without any inteution to recrinnnate. Tliis is not th(! time of recrimination, it is tiietime of all others when every man should apply himself to dis(diarging his duties to the hcst of ins liglits and coii«cience. Sir .Tolm \. Macdonald :- Tlear. hear '■ Mr. Laurier: — If I recall these t'act-' it is simply to say once more, if such evi(lence is necessary, that thf? gre.Tt principles of a country are never to l.ie tri- fled with : tinittho true i)rinci pies whi(di should guide the ]iolicy of a nation should mn'er he deviated from, be:ause. IK ON( E DKVIATKI) Fi;o.M, the country will l»e led from conseriuence to conse- ((uence ending in a most fatal conclusion. In my hunihle judgment, it was in ISTt ii fault — I will not say it was a crime.thc . rh I might say without sever- ity it wa^J a pfditical cime — at all events it was a fault to Idindthis country tiUhe iinmejiate construc- tion of the road. It was a fault, last session, after the \l ON THE I'ACIl'IC CONTRACT 112: ('X]i(}rieii((' ol'tlie i)reviinis ten yoars in porsi^'t in tliat policy. It was u fault not then to have adoptctl th(( jinlicy snjr.txe-ted hy the honnralile nionilicr for \V('?<t Duiliani (Mr. I'lakc) of coininencin<,Mn the (>ast, and building'- thi-i road .Liradually as the icsources of the cooiitry would permit. That the undertakintf to build this railway until final coiu[)l('tioii within a short term wa.s a vicious policy, to say the least, is fully proved by tlif- ci.iiiliu 1 of the Uovcinnici;t since they have iMit'red oiTu'c. It is ]ii'ovcd by theii' hesitation and vacillation iu carryiiiii' out their scheme when till.' necessity of carrying it out was forced on them, and it is further shown hy the jiresent contract, ^^'hat bas heen the jKdicy of the jiresent Uovernmerit ? [n less tiiaii thriM' years tluy have (•|I.\.\(iEl) TPIKII! I'ol.irv TiniKE TIMES. The first year aft(.'r they had resumed ])o\ver, they came before Parliament with a threat scheme — a new idea — and the idea was that I his road should l>e hence- forth ion-i(bTed as an Imperial work that the Fnipe- lial authorities should lie asked to contribute to it, liecause the surplus iiojiulation of the Emi»irc would Jind homesin the North-West. This idea wasaceei'ted by the followers of the honorable .u'cntlenian as a niaster]iiece of policy. Tt waH rejiresented as such by the party orators and the i)resH : yet. good as the idea was. it did not last. Tt withered as the llowers of .summer, but was immediately replaced by another scheme which was submitted last session. The jirin- ciple of this scheme was that the lands should )>ay for the liuildinif ol'the road. This scheme was acce]ited by the followers of the honorable i^entleman with the same enthusiasm as was the lirst. yet it also met an early fate. It did not last, and no woiuler. When the (ioverninent broujiht down this plan, a feelin<i; found vent in the resolution moved hy the i>vesent header of the Opposition. The resolution, it is trtie, was voted down, hut I think we can survive it. .Manv i f ;? iP M !Pl 1: ji - I : i' I 12G SPEECH lionoriilile gentlemen opposite, when votint,' down tliat resolution, strove luird to conceul under u smiling I'iice a heavy heart. I think we can survive that, Ijeeause the (lovernnient, immediately alter the ses- sion was over, aliandoned the very policy which liiey had called on their followers to support, 'i'et some- thing had to he done. Tlie (lovernnient were JX A DIJ.KM.MA, for it'tiiey went on to carry out tlu; work, they might cripi)le tiie iinances of the country to a degree almost lieyiind remedy. If tliey did not go on with the work, they would he going hack on tl)eir old policy. What was to l)e done? liike the wizard in the tale who found his own life in constant tlanger from the fangs and chiws of the str;uige progeny wliich he h;id reared, tliey, too. had created a mon.vtcr that threa- tened their own destruclion. Wluit was to he done? They went to Europe. They oilered their wliite ele- phant lor sah' in the niark(^ts of Paris and London, hut no one would accept it even as a gift, i'lnally, they had to take the hcast liome, where they gaveit a vast territory to roam ov(!r, made it impossihle for any other hoing to go into the pasture, and tlien they found somehody who was willing to relieve them of this ever recurring cause of anxiety. That this pro- posed arrangement is a vicituis policy is well proved l)y till' hmguage which the dovernment used to indii((( tlieir supporters into voting in favor of this contract. What was the answer they gave to the numerous olijections raised against it ? It was sim- ply this ; do lujt critici/.e hut accei)t tiie contract ; it is the hest we cotild get. In order to show this clearly I cannot do lietter than (juote mi this ^uiiject the very words which were used tiu- other day hv the iionoral)le Minister of I'ulilic Works: W'i'U, Mr. Cliiirman. in tliis case ue liivi; imt to ik-al with only one J'Jiriy, wo ha\t' to deal with tli ■ syndicate. Tlio.so ON TIIK PACIKU lONTRA( T 127 gentU'iiicii arc tlic diH' jiuity und wc aro tlie dtlicr. We have to luaki' ai'ontnict witli tliriu ioi ihc luiildin^' (iriliisioail.slmll we -ay I" tlieiii, you luu^t taUe tliat or nothing ? That is not till' way coiitiiicts are inadn. Vou have to iiivt? ami take. You have to take into consideration the cxi.ueneies oi' the eaise. You have to .sec whether your teiins are acccjitalile to the other pirty, and alter reasoning the matter witii the other {larty you will lind that he is light, and your pinim.sal is not sutlioient, and ilvdu have to giv(! more lands or muncy. other conditions, the .I'esult is that you havi' to agree to givc^ aud take on hotli sides to jirojiare the contract ami sign it. 'I'iiat iri what wo liave done. Here is a contrai't, ami we say it is the best we v:\n do. Ts tlii.s the liiii.muijr;' (d'a Tree ( Invei'imient, nf tlio executive power ol' u tree nation ? W'liat lias .^eized tiie (jovernnient of thi.s country that they have heen (Oinpollcd to accept this contract from the Syndicate ? W'Jio in the worl<l conipcHcd the (iovcrnnient to nego- tiate with tlie Syndicate? Wiiat g;reat calamity lias herallcn this country that the (iovcrnnient shouhl he coini)elled TO sriiKKNDKli INco.NDIIIdNAI.I.V to tlie Syndicide? It' there liad hcen a war aiidweluid heeu del'eated, and the ( iovernment forced to acce[)t from tlie victor such terms as suited 1dm to eid'orce, and if the (iovernment came here to have the tieaty ratified, would their hinguatj,'e have hcen diHerenl to that u.sed in order to induce their supporters to acce}»t the contract ? \\'hen. in the year 1.S71. at the termi- nation of the disastrous war with I'riissia, the Provi- sional ( Iovcrnnient of France met the newly elected Xti- tiiuial Assemhly and presented to it the tretdy con- cluded with (lermany, l>y which France ceiled to tliat country two of its hest [)rovinoes. some of the mem- hers protected auainst the clauses oi'that treaty. And what was the language td' lite French (iovernment in reply? Tt was exactly the same as used to-(hiy liy our Administration ; accept the terms, they are t!ie ! f ! 1 < - %m 128 Si'EKl'II ll"?' 5> 9 J !! r Ix'.il \vu could ;^et. Franco luid boon ilfifiitcd in wai and lay cruHlicd under tin; iron liccl of tin; victor; our ( iovcriiiiK'iit Iiad not Ix'on dciloated, i)Ut ucro IiouikI in lli(( sli!icklo3 of tlieir own vicioU3 policy. After liaviiiijj spokon the lanjjjuatfi! wliicli ] have jti-it (pi )l('d tlic hnnoralile .Mini^trr of Puljli'; \^'o^ks went on to .say : " \ Ixdicve it i-i to the advaiita^e of the country that wo should save the nioufv of the cnuu- try hy adopting tiie^o resolutionHi. and F lioix* the an- swer will he '■ Yes "from all our frienils''. This is the (U'owninu; conseiiuence, and the followers nf the (lov- ernnienl arc; this tune asked to give tlic iinal "• Yes '' which will plunge this country INTO A.N INKNoWN KX I'K.N DJ'IT KIC. Yet I am free to eoni'ess. since the (hi\ I'liuuent are determined to go on with the construction of this railway at oiu'e until completion, the id(>a that it shouhi 1)0 huilt by a company is one whicii has a great deal in it to commend itself to tin; people ol' this country. lUit for the very reason given by tho honorable .Minister in the early part of his speech, there wore dillicultios in the way. i!e said : I'.ut aitlioii,;.:!! tliecountiy .■^tiwil by us, and .i largi- inajo- vity oftlR^ luemlxM's of thi- rtmise .saiiotionuil tlio action of tlie (iovt'iiuiiciit, iii'\'<'rtliol('.'<>, it woulil in! cliiflisli tfi conceal tliat tli(M(; was a imssiliiUty of appi'dn'iisiDU loi' tho lutme. Thi^ i'celini: was this, that tiio uncertainty about tii.^ anioinit of nionpy that woiiM lio ri'(|uircMl to luiild tiic railway was dis- tui'liinj^ th<^ public niimt. Soho ly coaM say positively what woulil l)c the liabilities of tlie country, or liow many millions wouM bo rcquircl, not ima'plv to builil tli" road lait to work it, ami to work it for all time to conic. The honorable .Minister ndgbt have added that tlie public mind was iilso disturl)ed hy the necessity of the (lovernment having still to go on letting out ..,.„*,.„„♦.-. „.-v,i o. .„;,>,, ^1,.,^ contracts already made contracts, and seeing uiai conuacis aireaay mam "were carried out. Sueh were, Mr. Chairman, the rea iiN 'I'lIK l'\( II IC ((iN'riJAi T 12!> pons why the ouuntry l'!iviiur(;il tlio policy nf haiidiiip; thi-i work ovt'v t(» !i coiii|i;iny. I>ut Iimvc tlio.^c oxpcc- tiition* Ik'cii t'liUinod liy this contr.'ict ? Thi'? contrMi't U a policy which docs imt lueel ;inv of tho roasouB iidviiiK'pd in its favor liy the hoiiorulde MinintcM'. Thf country expected that i'V this C'onti'iict the (lovern- niMit wouhl he relieved nf ihc iicces'^ity oflel tin<j; out ))ew contract J ;ind -ei'in ^ i Imt ohl hiu's ai'c carried (uit. Fnr \i-u vcar.r to come ihev have ■I'd rri;.-ri-; ■iiii-: samk >v-ii;\i which they pursuc(l in tlie past, and whii h caused iinxiety in tlie puldit! mind. Tho pei> pic .il' t hi- coun- try expected that tlnnr liahilities I'or constructing this road would 1)0 settled. Unt this. [ helieve. ai-<() i-j denied. They cannot he settled for this very rea- son that the (iovernmcnl must pursue the same course which it pursued hcl'.ire. I'or ten year* tocome it must [s.n on letting:; out contracts, ami the liahility will he settled onlv when ten v(>ars hence the wdik has lieen coinplete(l. So that tl lis i~ a !i vlij'id eni.:aL;i ment wjiicli luliils none ol the en,i:ajiements it was ex[iecled to t'ullil. It would in fact so ajipear. as it were, a sort of partnership het ween the (idvernmeiii and the com])any. Tiiere :ire four sections ofthc load t" iiuild. the company huilds two section>. and the (iovi'rninent twosections, and those the mo-t iliflicult. The company completes iii tii, years, and the ( invern- mi'iit completes in ten years, and at tlic i'wA nt' thc tcii yciirs the w hole i~ tu he handed (i\'''r to the cnm- ].iany. Not unly that, hu; while the ( .uvcrnment is cun: |iaii\' is to le cnni- le doin,if the work td' 1 he ciitiipany, the have all the privileges of the < iovi'rninent . T ]iany can imixiit as free as the (lovernment can. T company is exem|ilcd fi'mn taxation as th< (ioverii mentis. The comjiany has Ine further privilcLi'e o fixing its own t<d!- almost withuut th<^ pnssihiljt lindrance or interf< ment. T -av alnm.^t t \' n overn- M'cnce iin the part o| the ( , Hsihilitv of intert'erence. le no II 1 n k '■ r ■■ • I' 1 i:',() f-i KT-:( If Jor T cnntV'Sfl tli.it iiiidcr tlit- letter nf the coiitrnf t there is u posyihilit y nl' inteirereiice. Hut when la tlie ( iciveniiueiit to iuteirere? Only when the ctHMpiiny liiis realizeil ten per cent on the coj-t df ( imstnutini; the road, which eest it- estimated on the otjiei' side at S7s.(i(i(i.(i(in. As to the privilege j^iven to the eoni)iariy of importin^j,' their materials free, that has perhaps more the nature ol a family quarrel among honorahle gentlemen on the other side of the House, and. there- lore. I shall have nothing to say upon it. A3 to ilu^ exemiition iVoni taxation, that is A lAU \ioi;k >i;i;iur.~ matik and one which .-hould eiiLiaii(> tlu- atti idion of thir loi ise. It 1 KiH lieen eoiitended on tins sni the lIou.se that this ex( mptioi I Irmii taxation. {•oUjuei ith ihi' other advantai^cs and privihui's iiiven 10 tl company, will iiive almost a monopoly di tln' N'ortl "' Csl Tri I'itorlc^ into the hand ii this <'tim]'any. has i.ecn renlic d to liv >;entlenien on Thi- a.-sci tinii *he other ^ide. liul till del' this contract t he road- lied. loe .-l.'ilion !i'r<nnids. rollini; stock, ca etunpany. arc to he I'ur all time, for all pital ol' the nerations to come. e.\emptc(l Irom ;i fed M > oris o axalion irom li eral la-xalion. il ever siicli a contin.uciicv slioiud iilinen. from lo cal taxation when local li'overnmriits are or,L;ani/ei|. from municipal laxalion when muni- f we ((in>ider that thi- er eijialilies are estaldislied (ompany is theiehy uiven an unl'air advantatic ov eve) V other com paiiy uiio t ry to compete with them. it will he seen lliat it w ill he dillicult to secure com- ])etition with them. Thu^ the company have.l hercl'ore, the privilege to hold these lands and. like the dog in the manger to prevent any one using them except themselves ; and they have also the privilege ofiixing their own tolls sous to ohtain extortionate profits out of the ,-ettler.^ of the North-West. It niu-t to c vi<lent.Mr. Chairman. to every disp.'is-ionate oh-ervc r, that this is a monstrous monopoly, and om- Ihut will ox Tin; I'At IIK ((.NTliAtT i;;i iiiiiki' llic <(iiii]i:iny liiiHlldrds oi'tlie Noi'tli-NN'f'.-t. I Uh'i; tlijit term iulviHcdly. I) i- tiuf tluit it is net in tliu |»()\\>'r i>\ tiiis (iiiiiiiiiny In f.-tiililii-h such iiiPtitu- tidiis in wuiiM jiiiKHint til r<'U<liilisiii. ill ilic .-ciisc in wliicli it i'xi-!ts ill i'iuinic. 1111(1 wliicli it needs iiluHist convulsion to yet n( lull leudnlHni is not tl only mode liy wliicli iio|iulnlions ciin ln' enslaved liy a {'niiil>iniition : it is not the only mode hy which the nmnv ciin he mad(^ riiK '|•o^■ o|. 'iiiK iKw Nor call it lie coiitc-nded that, on this conlineiit wlieic we claim to he free, where we chiitn to have got lid of !'eudali>m. no lai'jic comliinatioiis can he atttmi'tcd wherehy men can ^et dishone>t terms out of tlu! toil (if ()th(-r». We have 1 he fact alreadv hcl'oie US ; we were told the nlher da v hv the 1 loiKiiaii.y leader ot the < )[»|iusil imi, that, at thi- very day. the riiiluay majruates of the Niiith-\\'e~t cxioit .-:uch enormous judtits from the .-eltlers of ihe country t''''r carryin<:' their n'oodn id markel that it practically amounts to their haviiiLi proiirietaiy inlcri'sts in their liirms, and the settlers ale therehy deprixcd oi' the Itest jiail ot their iimriis. TliiH may riot he reudalisni in name, nut is it not leudahrm in suh.-tanei' d in f.' Tlien. Sir. here is another leaturo of the vicious s I'ccn rnllnwed hitherto. Without ia( nollcv winch venturiii,u' any exllre^slon of (lositivf opinion, it may je a (|aestioii. whether, if the road, instead of heinii; huilt. 1 8 It IS now col it end ( (i It mu>t lie huilt lieeii gradually and step hv «tcp coii-itrueted. .as the necessities of the ('ountry niiiiht reo,uire. it mijrht not have heeii a consideration uhelhei' il shiiuld he huilt liy a siihsidy of lands and money, uy whether the ( ioveinmeiit nf (';i naila should proclaim to the world that the needy and poor nftlie whole world eonld tind free laiiils and free soil 1 In ouuhout the w hide of the Noi (h-W'est. and that lliev slcnild he ciiahled to ohtiiin ilu- he-t market prii e.s I'or their priiducls. If 132 «i'v:i;( It l'i|li;i|n, ir tli.'it -y<)i'iii Ii;hI ln'fii t'ollowcil, tlicl'd ■l,t. Ill ;V\v vcars. have licfii \ ii;\v i,K Mil I In.NAIIlK I t Bi J 1 < in tlii- I'Miiiit I y. Iiiit till re wmild have liccn a mmli f£i'i;iitf'r iiiiiiilMr III' li;i jipy ami conti'nl "il Iihhm's. |!ut niitiilicr system liiis liccn fnllnwcii. 'rwcnly-livc mil- lion aci'cH (if lam! arc t<i lie Li'ivin tn 1 lii- ((iiiiiiaiiy.ainl ai •' til I'l' Il 'il.i'il II j» ;it till' dpi inn (if t lie cnm |i:iiy.Tli(' r<>ult iiltliat, policy must lie the ssimc in the N'mtli- W('»t an it lia.-J liccn in every plaei' wliire we have had hind cnniiiiinies. The immigrants will lii-t Mttlf iipnii tliR lands ni the ( inveriimcnt, upnn the huincstead ml the preemption lands ; lint, ailei- a lerlain while, a win'n liiev riimmeme lo lie crnwileii iilii li oiii mit- side and within, they will si|U;it ujion the laml.- ot' tluM'iinipany. and then one ultwo residt-i nin-t lo]- ]iiw -eiilii'V ! hey will 1>(- ejri-U'd iiythe a}.M'nts of the I'ompany. oi- tliey will he compelicd \o suhinit to the extortionnte tei nis that will bo I'oreed upon them hv the eoinpiiny. We kiinw well that the majority of the M'ttlers will he poor, that the majority of them will have no nth or means, no other ea pita L l ha n their ahlo hiidios. and we know witll.liy expeiieiiee in the last, what exertioUH it rei|nires lor .^neh M'ttler.s to lav Uji the instaliiKMits on their lam w hen lliev th nive to sup]ily the I'ecpiirenients oj tlieii' lamilit's and to turiiish tln'ir farm.''. Moreover, liy-anddiye. iniuii- ('i])f)l <rovcrnniiiit.- w ill have to he nriiani/ed in that territory, roads will have to he laid out and opened, find yet this eonijiany eannot he li xed Tor these loadfi, ■whiili will h(> a constant souri'e of litigation and liitterne-s in the ciiuntrv. Auainst all tlii-=, what have we What i- al'efruar 1. what i~ tln' iruarnntee, that w i; have au'ain.st the po-isihle. I should rather say. the ((Mtaiii evils ol' tlic |iroposed sy-tem '/ We have, as a .L,'uarantee. only the irood will nltiie cnm- pany it-elf. Tt has heen asserted, nn the other side, that the pre.stnt niemliers ol' the cMiiiiany are nien of (IN TIIK r.\( II' It iNTi;.'.i r ];;;5 tho lii'/ln'-»t f'li:ir;i('t('r. iinil cfitiiiiily every oiie luay ii-'.'Jeiu til this ; hut ii'tlie iiieii ulio imw coiHtitute the ciiiiipiiliy :iie men III' t III' hiL'.he«t eh:i nicter. \\\\n kiiiiWS who will 1k' the lueiilher.S nl' the e(ilii|i;iliy ti U yt lU'H Iieiiic. live ye;u'.-' lu'liee. m evnisix UiiMiIIh Ikmkm) '.' Who can lay tliiit, six iiinuihi iVuin tn-ilay, this eiiiiiiiaiiy will nut have iinl u'liie tn 'Nrw- V"rk, aieh I'lii'ii iiinney {•iiiisiileratinn, hartereil \\.i interest?! ■I'll I'dUKK.N I Al'l lALI-T. Lnvenlhein (he |irivileue nf JiicatinL' the line theiu- selves, ami iifstill I'm'thei' ()|)iires.-!inii the settler-' mi th(M'c)ni|iaiiy"s lauils. in uriler to rei'mip themselves fur the C'liisideratiiin thev have ''iven tn the iiiv ? l!ut. Mr. ( 'hairman. wlmever mav ei>m- le lie tl inemhers of this company, we know that they ai'e of tho Immaii race, ami it Is a well knuwii I'aet. and (Uu- illusti'ateil hy the whole history ul' maiikinil. that men in every station of life. wh(!re they are notehoek- I'll hy positive hiw.s ami re<.fulalioiis. will almse theii' [lo.^itiou to the iletrimeiit of others, if they can •.'■aiu any advantaLie hy it. .\ml we have an example of (Ik- way in which this eoiupany will treat tho setth'i's iiy tho manner ill which tliev have treated the ( invoi'U- ment. They have driven a hard iiaiuain wiih tho < ioveriimciit. They have ohtaiued the must ontn'ous terms from the ( ioveriimeiit : and if they have extort- ed these onerous terms from the (iovernmeiit. what is it for/ Is it for the pleasure of ^ainini;- a moral vic- tory over the (foverniuont, and niakin;j,' no use of it. or is it not to mak(> tho host use they can out of these onerous terms, to make' tho land they ohtainod worth to them all th(\v can make out of it? On tho whoh? theroforo, tho position of tho settlor in the .Vorth We.-.t, will ho, under this contract, tho position of a Tanta- lus, lioforo a well dressed tahle. at widch he cannot .satist'y his appetite. Tho settlers cannot .settle on tho lands whicli are ch)se to them, without 3uhniittiii.i t) tho terms of tho company n ;i \i 134 SPEECH w ill (: I ' ' ! 3- Mr. riuiiili — Tliey will settle on tlie (iovernirieut liiiiils a]()n^'.*i(lc. Mr. [.auricr. — J!ut I prosume the liononihle gt'iit eniiiu doi^H not su|ipii--e the iii)j)uhiti()n of this coiuury should ho cnnlineil only to the (ioveninient lands. Loi)l< at this mattt'i- in any way, and it is this : that ', iiu e.-cate A MOS" MoNs'lKor MoNoI'dLY AVe,tV(iin the province of (iuehoc knnw what a mono- poly is,. 'Hid I call the attention of my (•olleaj:;ue-! I'roni that province to our ex])eriene(Min(hM' that monopoly. T know in I hat proviiurwe had a hitter I'xp'rience of the seiuniorial rights, and we had to try iiard ijefore Ave could get them al)oliHhe(l. There was a monopoly of tin; Y\ix\n loe-taltlisli mills held hy tlie sei-iiieurs, ixrul we -wanted tlie riirht extended to th(^ peoph- at larifp. I am free to Siiy thatif tliat privih'ire liad heen refused us l)y the lefrishtture. it mi^rht have caused :i relteiiion. 1 think every ])ro\inc(; of tlie Dominion lias had its land comiiany. There has lieeu one ia On- tario, one in .New IJrunswick. one in Quehec. and one in Ti-ince Kdward ishmd : and T am (juite certain T can apiieai to the experience of every honorahle hcmu- ber ol' »his House from this province to «a\ ihat the results of thes(> monopolies liave heiMi every wlierea:;cl at all time.-; the same, namely, to retard settlement arid ]))'es3 lieavily upon •In^ energies of the settlers ; that thi'y have everywhei'e heen a curse and a Itane. Thi* has been the case with re!.;ard to land c<mp):inies A\inch have not one-tenth of the powers which have heen u'ranied to the Syndicate hy the ])resent con- tract. It issaid : and 1 have heen reminded liy the lionorulde memher for Nia,!Mra(Mr. l'luml)),<h;it there are Mocks of land res(;rvo<i ii.tween those which have heen j.rranted to the comDany W^e have reports to the etleot that we have '2.')i 1.0(10.011(1 acres more land in tiiat coui\try, thou'jh we nave not -ui h aeeurate in- formation as yet as will enahle us to he alisoluteh'' F I UN TlIK rAi'IFIC <'0.\Ti;.\cT certain uixiu tliat nuitter. However, T am ([uite ready to l)elie\'L' that wo liave'Jt)0,()f)O,iiiiil acre^ space in that country : but wlicii we deduct from that the hind cov- ered witli laUe.'^, --trciinH and niarshi;--. tlic mountain^ un<) liill.-, the barren hiuds, and those which are un- tit lor setth.'ment on acc<junt of climatic conditions, hinds which are only til far ii;ra/.iii;r purposes, and we furtlicr deduct the portion wliich lielon.tj.-s to the Hud- son's l!ay company and those reserved for school pur- po-e-. WHAT WII.I. KKMAIN FoR Oil; -KTri.Kl! OV com er and ahovu the 2").o:i i.ODO ai'res allotted {<> t! [lany '.' I/ioked at froni whatever point liS view ynu chodse. tliere i"* not a sinfj;le redeeming feature in tlie gigantic moiiopoly whicdi !nis been given to this company. There is anotii(>r objejtionalile feature in ''/■ X''. but md oontlition of the this contract — iKiL pei-haps ubjectionable /) rendere »v tlie nature country at the present time. This contract forces us to 2'i on immcdiate'.v with 1h(^ construction of the r.)ad .ilong the norti; shi>rc ake Superior. We are 11 ai^reed tliat a Canadian I'acilic Uailway mu-t lie liuiit on Canadiiin soil, W'e all agree <in this point. Mr. LaiiLievin :-- Hear, hear .Ml aurier -T d. ) not thuik then .ire twi liniiins in i('<;aril to that matter Ml au'revm ilT lur leader tlitler.s Irom vnu. .^lr. Laurier : — No : 1 ic sa vs that we should uo on with the building of the road as tlie recjuirements of the country may demand. T have never beard e.\|ii'es?eil liere the opinion that the Canadian Pacitic Kailwav should not be built Tl le only point upi m which there is any disagrcMueat is as to the expe- diency of buildim'; tlie whole road at once, or only as rapidly as the wants of the country may require. T think it mu-t lie perfectly manifest that this section on the noitli shore of Lake Superior is not reipiired at the jire-ent time, that its coii.struction might be . II ,t- ft i;jG &rEi-:cii A UNA NTAC; i;i a',- 1. v in >- r i ■< ln ed until ■iiiii e I'lituie \)erio(l, iuul that it w .11 Id lUite illicitnl. ;it jji-c.-cnt. to huild tlif enrttern sectinii us "^-.{v/.- .-tf Marie. T!ic fertile jtlaiiis d tlie \ve>t Isir Jire .«('i)ai'atMl from tlie ea~t liv an extent territnrv m tl n,'<i-i(in nfivtii tlK' •avren ake. Willie it liapiit-nH tliat the innte ah'ng the Hfiuthein shore wuiiiil pas.' throujiii .some of tlie hest lands on the contineni — tliroiiirii several of the most imiioit;u,t i^tate.^ of the I'nion. Would it not he hetter. und( r llio.se eireumstanees. to hrinu' the road imini diat ely to Saull Ste .Marie, taj) the Aniei'iean svsteni of rail- ^vav and set'nie not merelv the tiade of .\oi-th-\\'e>t. Inn a laiv 'tall This is so evident (jur owii hare of thetraiHe friini tiiose ;Voin a geof^niph ieal I'oiut ai(' of view, that T will mil stay to discuss it. There 1\V" ijolicios liofore the Ilou.-c at the [iresent nionjent. The pcdiey of the (lovernmcml is : tiiat the road sl;all he coii^truet^d ut once on the north >re (jf Lake niperior. Wdiat would he the conseiiuenei' of carrying out tliat jioiu-y Th ere wo uld he no eommuniealioii hy that road with the F^astern railways for ten ^^ears to come : and though we may securo thr incipierd trade of our own territories we would 11 trail! from the ^'ortll■^\'estel•n Stales ofthe T'liion. The other jiolicy would he to Ijriug the line at oni'e to Sault Ste Marii'. thus securing us immediate connection, not <nily with thr- North-West, hut with the American railways. Can any one hesitate for a moment in the jiresence of (hat iioi'cy ? What reason can lie iirg( d tor the adojition ofthe rout(> along the north shore o( r.ake Superior '.' Though the (jueslion has thus far heeu discussed entirely in an unseelional sjiiril. I think T might well emiuire which of lluse two polieies will 1 e ol lost hcueiit to mv ow n province Th iminediate connection ofthe mad to Sault Ste Marie would at once carry over therailway system of Quehec the trade of our own North-West and oftheAmerii ;in North- Western States as well — a state of things which 0\ TllK rAtllU CO.NTKACT w mild pi'iivc of iiiiiiii'n?!' ;iii(l nlivinus cilic- 111' MontiM'jiI jiii'i (luclicc lirlirlil li> t!ie Uit this i-; iii>t tli(i liriiuaiy rojison lor the iido-itidii dl'th;' line hy \v:iy .^auli SU' Mario. This road wori.ii irKi.r on; phovinck to get mit iif thc-i liiiaii'i.-il diHii'uitic- Ky whirh it is at prpst'ut lie.-cl. That province has imwa dolit whicii cxretd.-^ 8 1">.0( )!!,(•' '•; this year it luiH hcou coiuiicllcil to hMii'dw 8 I.II(I(),(1U(< iiioro, and this with tlie pressure orcoii-taat ainl annually incicasing di'licitri. It is a iiiatti.T iil'iinxiot V to every inliaidtant ot' (^uehee h>'\v met. hni so I'ar it has Im-i-u ev t hcsi' deiicits are to i'ound iinpo--il)le to devi.~e a means hy which th can 111- \vi[icd niu. ( if.r rcTourcts have heen iiledgecl, to the i'ullest extent, andthev have not that ela~ti- I aval! ourselves dl tiiem city which will enahle u.s t^ in the neaf I'litnre. Ouroidy ii'Sdurce will he the direct taxatidn dl'our people uidess we are so hapi'V as td tnul a means nu'reasinu; thi' tralhe o| oiu' tail wiiv.-.l'nl ess that roll el' com cs withii I a r-iio rt period.! he linancia! prospects of (^uehec must lie held to he critical, indeed. Fl'tlHM-dad to Sault St-' .Marie was (■dii-tructed. instead dj' ha vinii io wait for ten year,-, we shduld have, within a pcriotl of two (ir thiee years, at the utmost, the henefit of the trade < if North- \Ve>terii till I'nited States: audit must he evident iia am ('ana to every houdinhle gentleman iVdin (^ueljet! that that tratlic wduld he df material a.ssistanee to our i)roviru;e in it~ present financial conditinn. 1 (hi not say that that assistance wtuiid hesutlicient to lead u< fuU of i)re- -ent dilliculties. hul it woul leave the present ami future of our i'lovince not so dark as it i- at the pre- i^entmument. [would ajipeal U|i"n this (|Ue.-:tion 1<» my fellow-country men I'mtn Quehec who are sup- porting the (uivernment. \\'e have nften heen told, liy the supjiorters of the (ioveriiuient in Lower ( 'aiiada, especially hy tln^ pres.^. of the immense influence which these lionorahle mendier.s have with the Admin • II I f ins SPEECH HI istration, tliat tliey have only to coine and ask what tliov want and they will recoive it at onco. They would almost have us holicve that the ( iovernniont occupy the position ot'tho servant nuMitioned in Scrip- ture, who came when he was told to come and went Avhere h.? was told to ixo. Tf these uontlcnien have so much influence with the ( Jovcrnni(»nt, now or never is their <ipportunity of ((xerci9in<i- it to the .irreat benelit of their provintte. and for the purpose of avert- ing injury to the hominion, for t hold that the adoiition of this contract would he a great calaniily to the Dominion at large. l!'«l I'' h I Ml 7, 'V lil IT IS A m-:i ;sio.\, hecause it would not remove my of those incmive- menoes expected to 1)0 (lisp(n'S(- ' ; hrcause it leaves the (iovernment with tin* sauit- inconvi-nicnccs that were experienced in the past with tli(> former system. and a<lds to them other and greater. Tt is a daugcr. because it threatens to create, upon the fr(>e soil of this country, a monopoly which may at some time or another he a cause of trouble to the peace and haiino- ny of this country. 'I'his is the cmitract i>f which >Iinisters are so ]>roud. that the mere remembran( c of connection with its ineepti(ni and executiuu tliey led proud to leave as a legacy to their children. .My wish ;ind hope is that the legacy may he as ])leasant to their oifspring as to thi> parents. T am ipiite suie it will, because we Unow it is a, law of human nature that where the afrections are strong and love prevails even faults are accounted merits. T think it was the Minister ol' Public Works who .stated that this con- tract was calculated to enrich our country, increase our poi»ulatioii, and secure our fiee institutions. How it is to acldeve all these results is not to my humble perception iiuite visible. A* to its securing Uritish institutions in this country, f would be sorry indeed ibr my country if they wer(^ dept'inlont upon the con- O.N I'ACTl'lC (•(iNTIJACT ];5i> Blructinn (if a railway, wliotlior of i,M,i:aiitii' ordiiuiuu- tive ]ir()p«>rti()n.s. lirilish in.stitutiiuiH rerfi in tlii^ country upwii a surer Inuiidatidn ulicy are impressed up<»n the minds and liearts of our jicople. Iieoause this land, inhahited as it is hymen dill'eiing in ereed iind origin, and whose fathers were once separated l)y dire nati(mal feuds, have secured under those insti- tutions freedom, ('([uality, amity and i^ood will. l>ut Ministers should i'ememl)er the fact, which they seem to forget, that those institutions that have -secured us our present lilessiniis. ARK TiiosK III- riiK I'.'rii 1 i:.N ri i;v. and not tho.-e of an earlier time, the relics of harliari- iUi (hiys. Tf honorahle gentlemen opiiosite are de- .cirous of securing I'.ritish institutions, they must in- troduce into the IcLMslation of t his country the broad spirit ol' modern I'^ngland, an(hu)t seek to estaiilish those in(mo]iolies which at this day prove so many thorns in the side of luigiaml. gi'eat a- shei<. r>et them look at the country they pretend toadnnre. and they will see what d"ep and linn roots ahuses will strike into th(^ soil, ainl what toils, h'.hors. miseries and sufTerings. such ahuses can produce to the pi'ople of that coi \try. They have examples ol' this kind lu'- fore their eyes at this very day f I' this contract is to he judged in the light oi' modern Hritish ideas and ))rinciples. it carries with it its death-warrant. and the only iluty that remains t'or thi-< ilou-^e to ]>erl'orm is simiily to reject it on the tir~t opiiortunily. '■T Mi Tk Roll. Eihviird [jiati' ,it iloiilreal Till': .MKM(>i;.\!;[.K I'.ANQT'KT of ISS] MK. lAllM! I; I'AVS IImMACI'; In III- I.KA I iKK (Ml thr L",iih Mitreli. 1SS|, I loiini;iMc l'M\v:ir-l lUake reci'iv- '"1 ii Lrn'at ovutioii at J\I<intii',iI. 'I'lif V<<iiiiii M,ii.i h'l Inmi (hill, all till' l''.n,i.'li~li ami l''i'oiich youth r>r tin- ( 'aiiailiaii iinMin polls, jniniMl ill ,!.'ivinir a triaii<l liaiic|Uft in his lioimr at tlit- Witi.Uor Hotel. Thi' Icstivity was alt.'inltHl with cxtniorilinary "clat. the miml)er oi'irupstsi |ires(^nt holii:.' laiiri'i' at least liv a hiiiKli'Pil than at any olthe timv-t imMic liaiijiKUs previously >,'lvt>ii In Monti'i'iil. Mr. JUako. rscorifd i.y Mi. M lolan'n. juc- sMcnt of the )■..!/.//. ' /////. took hLs .scatat tln> table irhonneui-. liaviiiLT aloni:si(l(> of him ilonoralili' .\resKrs. I.niiiei-. Merciev. niiiitin.L'ilon, Lan.u'i'lioi' l.ailamiiie, 'I hiliainleaii, -Inly, .Afarchaiiil aiiil a ci'ii'A.I oriueiiiliers, jiuMu! men ainl h-ailini: citizens : Mi'ssi'.s. lioltoii. ,1. .^criver, \[. I'r.'roiitaliie. .1 McSli.im . F. (i. Itoiithilliei', II. A. Xe!-oii. \V.Pi'evost,.!aci|iie< fironler. I'loctoi-, llaL'ar. i'.ro\Mi. II. I.vinan, .1 J lodirson. I'. 11. h'oy ..lames Stewart, F. X. Arcliamlianli, A. E. I'oirlei'. A. I'avreau, .Tos. Diihamel. tVi;. The master!,\ s))('(>eli (!ell\ei'"l liy ^\v. F-!l;iko on the occa-ioii was reproihieeii by the whole I.ibet.il pregs of the time: we now reoonstnict t'lom notes taken , at the baii'iuet Ml' Lauiier's repl\ to the toast ol' •■ tllO House or Commons," Mi;. Ci! i;m \\. Tli'To luivo lippu iVw iiecasioii^ in my life mi wliieli I h.-ivc 'Hit =?') nimii i;eiiuino .s.itiisAietiou a^ in iaittinp; down at tlii-j tal'">* lo-niuht. 112 -I'KtC 11 tt ^'ml liavc called tijinu me tn reply to tlic tiuist of the Houscot'Cuiiiiuoiis and F rdiii ply with the ,»ri"eate?t [tlcu'-urc. lor it i'iiiil)lr'.-j me to ^ivf fxiirt'-irjiiiii to the .seutiiKcnls witii which lay heart is nvci'llow ini;-. The imiiicn-;e riatij-laction I fed doen not coiue I'roin the \m\ that the city of .Moiitreal.thc city wiiicli oiir atlver.-arit'.- have heen jilea.-ed to ever regard an tlieir stronghold, has 1 en the lir-t to hail tlienew lea- der of the Lilieral party ; nor doe.s it arise even from the very legitimate eniotidu ol'lhe per.-onal and political friend at the spectacle <>( this enthusiastic pnldie ex- pression of symjiathy for the great ahility and thc^ not less eminent characier of .Mi'. lUake. No. tiiis intense satisfaction ralher sjirings tVom tiie fact that this demonstrat imi is the in-Jpiralion and wiuk o| (lur voung men. thai t he voiuii o f this cm m- trv are the lirst to he new leader of the Li- l)enil party, and that that youth, tiMie to the generous instincts of their year<. thus proi-laiiu their adiiesion to the idea- oft ho i.iheral party nu the very morrow of a sti.-sioii during which, in i'arliament, those iileas were eru-d.ed oy the weiglil of a ciiiuparl majorily. ^'ou have pi'opdHed the heallii <<\' tlie llouse of ( ominous. W I'e the party h| rejoin I ani (I rink lions. to the refnrmatiuii of the pre -en t I !ou-e uf Cumi in the Impt- that, when il iia--es tlenigli the ei'Ucihle of another electiiin, the .-iu'iial note sounded heie tip- lliliiit iiv the vonUL;' men \h iiil rea 1 will lind an echo and that, in tiie new IIou-c nf ('ommiui-. Mi\ iUake's policy will he triumphant . Tho-e [)resent Thi-. 'wever. IS oiilv a lioii' here this evening dn nut hesitate to lieliev(> that t hat policy is the policy lit tho I'uture. Hut should it lie victorious at the next elei'tions or should it even nut ho victiifious in our day is another (juestion — a (lUe.-iion which is nnly oi'<econdary imp^itaiice for us. W'e do 111 )t concern mirselve- 1 n know w h el her we shall gather the fruits (if the : eed we are new sowing i)r whciher thev shall he gathered iV mir SUec-eS-iil ( li- the niiiUMiil, \\Q onlv set- one thim:'. that tin in lit ;it U' It.' 11 (I !■!■ •I' »r 10 caii-c AT rill-: r.i.AKi-: hani^ckt liicti is dear to wiiicli wf i"'li eve just ami tnu;. i^. ilt'-;|)ili' tl 1 j; the caUHO 10 tiiiiisc'('ii(k'nt al)ility and cliainctcr ><{' mir cliicl', in a. ilisii-'trous niiimrit y anionti- tin- iciirc-culntivcs of tin* IK'diilc. Oiii'c iimrc. liiis is nm wlml cnncorns U.S. l>e tiuit cause strnnir or weak nuincrically. it is tin- <ause nrrigiit ami justirc. 'I'lic youiiL'' men wlin liail Mr. I'lake i>n tin' imMrnw of tlic scssimi. do not lnok tn what was tlio success of his efrmls. .Mnicnv, r. it i^ tlie the nature of jj,'enei'(Urf siuils. of youth c,-.|i((i;illy. to jKjt pri/.e siiccc-is, hut rather tlie cau-e and we (an pl'i'udlv c.\<'l:nin wdl, the aiieieiit )inel : \ ii:li'i,r ciinsd iliis jihicml, ^rd ctr/n t'lihmi, ^'oun;J,■ men nf the .Mmitrtal l.iliefal eluii.-, ymu u' Kn^li.-li ('aiiadians. ynunu Fieml! t ';iiia<iiaii.-. ymi all. the orLianizers nf this deimin.-l ralinn. it wnnhl he, pei'haiis. misiijaeed "ii my part to nfler ynu thanks. .->tiil T cannot t■e-i^t the ph asuic nf ihiiim .-o. In tliis aiic nf univi'i-al euiitism. when even Ihi' youiifr do nut ;ilwa vs escape the ei'iitaji'ion. it is emi-nlin;^' tn see that vou at lea-t liave remained t'aithful tn the enlhii- -ia-ni and the di>intere^lednoss which f'-nm limeim- nieiiini'ial have heen th..' .ulnrimis appana.^e i'\' yniith. f am happy to nnl e this fact. I'nr. tn my miml.t he lir~l duty oi'thc Liheial party i- tn n-'jcnerate tlie pui'Iic MMltinielil nf the cnMitry . Nnthin.u: cnuld he iimi I' ( I eplnra hje ni' iiHMfc dis>-- trnu~ than the state nf deiivadatinii iutn which pnlities iiave I'allon. .\~ 1 speak, there is in this pmvince i^reat party in which each act done or wnrd s[inkt-ii i- nuly done or spoken in view nf thi; persniial lieueli'. nf the dncr or speak(-r. if they an iieynnd the-e waih. \\,i- \icw- which 1 am imw expre-sini;' wil h perhap-. he fiuinu-;- Iv a-?sailed an 1 their truth an.:rily di-pated ; and mv statements. perha]i.s. will he treated as a blander. I nevcrtheh'ss reileiate w hat 1 have a--crt(d ;iiid Inr their truth. T ;i[i[ieal imt tn ynu. ;jentlemcii. hut to I It ' Hi m in M SI'EEt II i I! Dili' iiilvi'i'-iii'ifj t liciii-t'lvr.^ ; I make this ii|i|ical. ii'it to wlisit is uttiTcd pulilicly, lint til what is inintcil lur the i^alli'i'ic-;, hut what i- lrarh'<sly and iVaiil^ly ad- iiiitti'd ill the -cciTcy nf I'liciidsln |i. and 1 hcii, Lfi-n- ticiiir'n. ydii knnw, fur \vr have all In^ai'd it rij.cated It'll, twrnty. a hiiiidi'ed liincs. (h<i>c who.^till icuard p'dilii'al hiiiinr ;i- sniiiclhiiii:', t hi i.-c \\hi» still liciicvo tha' iiauinl i-ii; i- imt a Wdi'd with'iut iiicaniii.Li'. llntso \v!nis(Ui<'arts ale ti.Ui hi d and ^t roiiiic-t tiiii/lii'iis a- iiin-i'i| liy thf w >ird ciiinit ry. ar tun-, t he I nil' |p I- I iraliMi a- -iiii iilc 1 1 1 i I ■ v . n I 1 In- ii|iiiinin n the -11 1 111 LI. pii-Itivc iiiinds. will! lonk dnwn u|hiii them i'<v ihi'ir ;:uil(d('ssu('ss. hcin;;- tn always s|ical< and art in view of the in'olit dcrivalih' iVnni each wiird of art. ( icnt ham have 1 n llrcil (.i tc;l \- ( 1 11 thai !l in pMlitics we Midy kcf|i in view our individual intcri-.-t.s, ir i'a(di acl . caidi w ord. ha- to he nica-urt'd ai'cordino- totli"' hi'iidit-i dcrivahU' t hciclroni. tiicn \\i' arc not wo rthv to he a K (■ liCOp \r. Al a- : 1 r ti lOSf Wlio aid down 1 heir liv(< on Mic hatl Ic-licld or tliis scatfold liad -havcd tilt' views of thf t'onteiii]iovarv stdiool. hatl ralculatfd tlifir acts and their words acconlinj;' to tin:' lu.'W rule, instfad oi'dyinn- ;,< (||,,y dicil. thi'y would luivc lived on ihi' favors and lai'i.''i'SSO.s w liieli ihe lui- veaiu'vaey of their day would have hoen tmly too ulad to shower upon tlioni. and (Uir iieiiple would ^ti!l 1 a (! ol slaves. Alas I t he times are m'ct'ssarv to rineat l! ii'i'ativ eliaiiii'eil iill 1- it lat 1 iiere H no salvation '1' a couiitiy unless its eiti/ens remain faithful io ii and place the puhlie over private inicie-i .' Tht^ party, which has ^icvci iied usalino-t without interruption lor twenty live years, has foientton these ^reat truths. It has ruled \ y pandei'iiiu' to eiipiditv and hy piittini;' pergonal over litaieial inter(\<t>. Its appeals unhuppily have found only too w iile an echti. The policy of this province has lieen .-hapt>d not in view of the jiuiiiic intta-est. which should alone he the pole star of the true patriot, luit in view of imlivi lual interc.-:ts. And now. look at the resu I ? Wc ar e I )a AT Tlir: lil.AKE liAMjl ET 14." llic iii'ink III' ;iii iiliyss. tlic (lp|)tli of wliicli is unl'ntli- iiiiialile. mill it i;< cviilciit tii;it. in ii tVw ycMr.-. tlni coiuitrv will liml it«i'ir i'licc tn I'ai'O with a iVi^htl'iil liiiiiiH'ia! sitii!itii>ii. Wliat will Kr the up-litit lit" tlii.-i fatal statr >n tliilii^'.-i V We sec till' evil urll ('liiHii,'li. Wi' to for the rniicdv ? With a ih'l hut wliiTc aro il III iiiniiv iiiilliiiii-. a liiu,iti'i| as.-ct, an cxhaustril nrilit ami not evi'ii till' honor, which i-- tin' last I't'.^oui'ci.' of tlioso who have none, what icmain.-' tons with whirli tn lonlront (he situation ? 1 tni.-t I may iir ini-taki'ii in pinlirtin;: that tlir [iroviiirc will inoliiilily have to pay with the loss of soiiicof its constitutional lihcitic.s foi thr crinic. w of not haviui; L^ovcrncil for tlir coiintiv. oi not haviiiL; itli w liirli T chai.^i' tin' party in |iowt'i'. alone coiisultt'il the i>ul)li(! intcrc-^t. ami of havintj,- sarriliccil thr puhlic rauso to pevsonal cuiiiility. Kor our pail, we. who claim to contiiiui' the w ork of till' men who (;oiii|U(:red the constitutional lihertics which we to-day enjoy, we, who claim to \>('. follow- iiiix the path traced out liv those ^frand (Imirfs who still shine out in oui' history, hy tho-e w ho loved their country ti» the extent of dyinu for it ; we onjv seek, like them, in the share we take in jiuMic affair-i, the greatest possihle sum of liooiI for the count iv. What we have to contend a.uainst at present is this di-isolvinti' tendency tn only consider personal interest, which leads to vcuality. to the dehasenient of consciences, to all those infamies of the recent past and to all the danirers which are loomiiiL; up in the near future, (Mice more. I say that, if the |iulilic caii-c is not Worth the jxreatest elTorts of w hiih we are capaMe. we are not worthy oflieinL''a free i cople. The hilieral party has imthiiii: to hold nut to those who march m Us ranks. W e ate in tlie mino- rity, and we have no favors, hniinr-;, lucrative places or hiii-h-soundiiiL;- titles to distrihutc We cherish a h'lritiniale amhition to triumph ami to see Mr. I'.hiko at the head of 10 this country, hut. if we Impe fm- its IMAGE EVALUATION TEST TARGET (MT-3) 1.0 I.I ^ m iiiM ii2 lllll 2.0 1.8 1.25 1.4 1.6 <« 6" - ► %. V] o ew ■el ,-,% ^5> c^l % #3 ^;. A Photographic Sciences Corporation 23 WfST MAIN STREET WEBSTER, NY. 14580 (716) 872-4503 .<? C/a ^ "^ I . Il'' Nh 14B SPEECH AT THE BLAKE BANQUET gtatification, it is not for the individual profit which eiich of us may derive from the circumstance, but for the good of the country at large. '.I'llTiI do not pretend to be indifferent to the posses- sion of power. Under our system of government, tlie w^e believe to be just and true, whatever may be the upshot of our efforts. The heroism of those who died on the battlefield siiuply for the honor of their country is remembered with emotion. The last charge made at Reischoffen by_ McMahon's cuirassiers, riding to their certain and, s\>'to say, useless death, is recalled with emotion, be- rniise it was a last sacrifice to the fortunes of France. AVell, if the soldier gives up his life for his country, i^ it too much to expect the citizen to sacrifice a few material advantages for the sake of fidelity to what lie.believes to be his country's cause ? '.' ' As for us. once more I repeat that our leaders 1^'nVe nothing to offer individually and we look foi n'othing from them. Our adversaries may not know ii, but we know what the no])le pride of being h(>nor- able in our own eyes is worth, and we also know the W'orth of the proud pleasure of owing nothing except to ourselves, of exitecting nothing except from our- selves, and of being patriots in deed as well as in name. •f,ii': "90 1,' /; rl- The Ontario BoiiodaiT (luestioa THE DECISION OF THE ARBITRATORS IN 1882 FAVORABLE TO ONTARIO, HIT REJECTED BY THE FEDERAL (iOVERNMENT MR. LAUKI'^'H ■ti.i:'H IN KAVOR (»K THE AWARD Till AUBITKATORS The following speoch ilcaU with ;i .siil»joct of intoiost not only to the iicoj)le ot'Ontaiio, but also to tliose of the juovinco f)l'<iiu'bcc, wliose northern boundary i* not yet deterniinetl. ilefore the annexation of tlie Noitli-W'est, it was perfoctly iniderstoo*! tiiat tiie teriitory of untario extended to beyoml Port Arthiu' ami the Lakeof tiie Woods. But since the annexa- tion, the Federal (iovernment di.s|H'te<l tlie legality of this boundary, wiiieh would iiave taken away Algonia an<l a vast region fioni < Mitario ami very nearly provokeil troubles and .acts ol violence in the disputed territoiv. 'Die Mackenzie Cabinet pi'oposed an arbitration, which was accepted ; Ijut, when the arbitrators iinnle their awaid, Sir .Inhn .\ >raci|onald, who liad in tiie nieantime returned to power, refused to submit to it. l{ecour^e liad to be had to the coui ts : and Honorable Mr.Mowatt, I'reniicM" of < >ntario, carried the alfaii' to f]ngland, where he iiained iiis ciuse. All these diflieulties and judicial expenses would have bc-tai avoided, if in l^^^^ tlie advice given n 148 SF'F.KCH by ^^'•■ I.riMvicr in tlusp terms, iit tin' sittitij: <'|' tlie House oi'C'diiimou^ on tlic Itli A|i'il, l^^^'J, Inul been followed : M 1(. .^ TEAK Kit, The resolution i.'' now in your hands!, and all the hoiioralilc "fcntlcnien who have atldrei=.=ed you iVoni the o])|it)>it(' .«ide of tiic House, stron<_dy in«;i*t u|inu the ))roiiri('ty of treating tliis <|U<'stinn iVoni a jiurely legal jiiiint of view. Acting thenii=elves upon this ]irinci|ilc. they have attacked, at great length, the award lendered hy the arhitratorp to whom the deci- sion ol'thi-'<|Uestion waseonlided Ity the (iovcrnnients of Ontario and of the Dominion. They have disfeett.'d this award minutely and have come to the conclusion that, hail they sat on the commission, they would have readied a different decision from the one rendered hy the arI)itrator9. They have i>iled up arguments, discjuisitions and opinions, to estahllsh that the arhitrators greatly erred ^\'len they decided that the word '• northward " in the act reafly means towards the north, whereas, in their ojiinion, it means simply north and nothing more. AVell, every). ody knows that in the jtast ihere has heen no more prolilic cause of discussion than TIIK SKi.MKlCATION OF WORDS. In listening to-day to the learned and elaliorate disfiuisitions of the honorable gentlemen opposite upon the meaning of the words •• downwards " " northwards ". and "" due north," T was strongly reminded of a letter which is to he found in the a))iifndix of tlie work of the hon. member for Jlotiiwell, wliicli was addressed by the .Mar(iuis de Torcy to J.ord liolingbroke, on the 'ioth Oecember, 1712. at thetime when the negotiations fi>r the treaty of I'trecht were going on. The letter of the .Alartjuis de Torcy complained that too much weight was })ut by the J!ritish plenipotentiary on mere words. He wrote: " 1 t 1 1 1 ' 1 ' 1 1 • 1 i4j ON' THE ONT.VIIIO nolXDAItY iJlKsTI OX 140 'In the name of Clod, Sir, orilor your plcuipotentiaiies t<i ho \(t^s excellent graniniiiriiins. Our^, who also un<ler:^t;in(l the force of fiitin exi)re.s.sions. are out of l»atienco, when they see diHiculties wliicJi have Ijeeu loPii adjusted started ajiaiu, and the differenee hc- iweeii '■i.'ssiiiii ;ind i-rsHlnHim, and the nieaiiiiigof timse tenn3. In truth. Sir. such (juestions ought not to l)e the ainuseinont of hon(»ral)le men. They are, at l)est. «!XcU:Jal)le in those to whom we may api)ly the epithet (iiiinnliKin irnr. Finish tliose disputcM which, if they continue lonjxer, will only profit our enemies. " Well, there is nothing new under the sun, and one would really think that this letter was written expressly for tiie purpose of the present discussion, and if we suhstitute the words " north '' and ''due north " for the words '• cession " and " restitution " it would exactly apply to the present case. In truth, such questions ought not to be the amu.--enient of liouorahle men unless they are excusable as being (nivnUittin irar. On this side of the House I may say that we have no patience when we see difhculties which have been long since adjusted revived again by the honorable gentlemen op{)osite ON THE FMilVol.Ol.S TKETEXT that the meaning of the words " north '' and " due north " were not properly understood by the arln- trators. This question has been .sett'ed. Why should it be opened up again ? I>ut what would be the benefit of opening the (juestion? If. however, it is to be opened, we are ju-<t as anxious as are honorable gen- tlemen opposite that the question should be treated exclusively as a legal one and should be a[q)roached in no other spirit ejccept a judicial one. Hut let tne ask tho^e honorable gentlemen, who have urged ou the House the propriety of treating it as a purely legal (me. wlietlier in such an event they have the right to criticize the award rendered. If they are sincere in their opinion, and I believe they are, that u 150 SPEECH tlie question shall be treated simply as a legal one, bo approached only in a judicial spirit, can they ignore th(5 great fundamental principle in matters of arbitrati(m that an award is binding on both parties and cannot be questioned, except for cause? And Avhat is the cause in this case — what causes can be ad- duced for refusing to submit to the award ? The answer is, that the arbitrators have erred. The only cause adequate to contest the award is this : it lies with the party challenging the award to show tJiere has been fraud on the part of the arbitrators or that it is grossly unjust. This is a fundamental principle which no one will gainsay. Yet no fraud is charged against the arl»itrators — they are al)<>ve suspicion. No sub- stantial injustice is charged. What is charged against them is this: that tliey may possibly have erred and taken a wrong view of the case before tbeni. This cannot be brought a? a charge against tlie award and unless honorable gentlemen opposite are prepared to say there has l)een iVaud on tlie part of tbo arbitrators, or that shocking injustice has occurred, TIIEV H.WE NO HKUIT to review and crititizc the award as they have done. Altbougli no charge of injustice is brouglit against the award, or fraud against the arbitrators, yet some oltjections are made l)y lionorable gentlemen opposite. "What are those objections ? The first is that the refer- ence of the question to arbitrators, wliicli was made by the late (lovernment, was niiido without the sanc- tion of Parlian^ent ; and this they hold to be a fatal objection. Tn law and in fact this contention is un- founded. The honoral)le member for llotbwell has shown conclusively tJiat it was within the power of the Crown to make sucli a reference. It may be said that such a prerogative of the Crown would hardly obtain under our constitution ; the most punctilious Avili reply that tlie reference was made with the au- thority of Parliament. It was, however, not made r ON TUB ONTARIO norXDARY «^t'E8TI0N ISJ with the authority of Parliament couched in an AtJt ; but the authority given by Parliament wai just asit' it had been given by an Act. It is within the recol- lection of many honorable members that during the late Parliament the question was often referred toon the tloor of Parliament. Not only so, but in the sea* sion of 187S, Sl.j,()l>!) were voted by Parliament for the l)uri)ose of defraying the expenses of the commission which had been charged with the settlement of th« Ontario boundaries. 1 ask any fair-minded man if Parlianient could have sanctioned anything on niorc binding terms than it did when it voted the necessary money to carry out the expenses of the commission. Could the authority have been more binding if Parlia-- meiit had passed an Act to refer the case to arbitration ? If these honorable gentlemen will look upon the ques- tion as a purely legal one— if they will look upon.-it in a judicial spirit, such as they invite us to do, they cannot come to another conclusion than that Parlia- ment could sanction the action of the (lovornment, and therefore the argument which we have heard jso often repeated in this debate falls to the ground. It remains indisputable that PARLIAMt:NT (iVVK ITS ArTlIOlilTV •.'0'{f! in the most open and binding manner that it wiis possible for Parliament lo do. Auuther objection made against tlie award iatliif : it is said this is a legal question and being a l«gnl (piestion it ought to have been settled by lawy<'rHaiid courts. Now, sir, T cannot concede that tlu! autht)rity of the gentlemen who lemlcred the award is to , b'e (juostiuned because they ditl not all happen to belujtg to the legal profession. No one will presume to assett th;>t justice, fairness and knowledge are the exclu^i%:e endowments of Ir.wyers. We saw a few diiys ago* in a committee of this House, doctors of divinity argui/rg (piestions of law as ably and as skilfully as any laT\'rer could have doncand I am satisfied that every one must "■ t i It! ! tl if lo2 SPKECIt admit thill llic aibitiutnrs wof oiuhiwcd willi all tiie (jualitics nc'ccs-ary to lender .such an award a^ wtnild PutistV the iiio^^l I uiictilinus. Fir.^t we have .Mr. Ju.»- tic'o ilurrisoii. whose lofty charactor and clear and cool Icifal acumen hIhuic ho consi>i(UoUHly in his career; then we have Sir Francis llincks. wliosf I'cr- tile and versatile talents eminently litted him lorsucli a position : and then we have the llritish Amhiissailor. whoJ)y his profession, his occupation, hy his know- ledge and character, was just as well fitted to deal with such a <iuestion as any professional man couhl liave heen.For my own part.T protest aj!;ainst the asser- tion that ([Ueslions of law should always he settled liy the law courts. I say that the interests ol society do not rcMpiire that <|uestions of law sliould always he HO decided. The most trivial disputes that arise he- tween men invtdve questions of law, but the interests of society demand that these disputes should he settled, if i)Ossihle. hy the contending parties, or, fail- ing in this, hy arbitrators appointed by mutual agreement, but that OM.V AS A LAST KKsoUT phould they have recourse to ctuvts of law. Another objection ia made against theaward.lt is said that the arliitrators have not solved the (luestions. but that they have made a comproiuii-e between the questions submitted by the re-ipective parties. Mr. Speaker, it is very strange that such an assertion ehould be made, and so often inade on the floor of the House, when every man should now know better than to make such an assertion. Sir Francis ITincks declared in his lecture, delivered at Toronto, that no com])romise was made; that the ari)itrator.s had aj)plied themselves to the task which devolved ujjon them ; that after hearing the arguments each sepa- rately took the case and separately came to the con- clusion which was come to in the award, and that award was therefore the unanimous expression of the ON THE ONTAIMO HofNItA I!V «/rK.STIO.V l.-).'} fdiiclupions nrrivod nt fsepnrntcly by r.nrli nrl)if rator. 1 (111 lint cilf tliii) ilcclaratioii o\ ^h I'mnciH ]Iiii(ks licrauso it cjin have any bearinj; on (he caHc. l>ut fiini|tly tor the iiur[Mi9e oi" prntcptinu ii<rainst nSFertious \vhicli arc |icr.«i-itcntly made when tlicy s-hoiilil not he made. Iiccjiu.to ihoy have no rouuihitinn in I'act. It is iiHiwissilih' to carry on the public di^cits.siona ul' this country if lionnrMl)lc L'cnth'iueu persist in basin;^ jirLTUiucnt^ on iH.'-crtion^ wliich aruihinied by the tacts; liut wliat, after all, is there in the ai^sertion, if true, that the arbitrat(us iuive made a coinprouiiae ? Sup- ])o?iiiir they made a comiironiise on the coiitentiou.-i sulimittcd to them, what objection can the honoralde gentlemen make to tliat fact? Honorable gentlemen opposite seem very tender-skinned on that (juestion. Thoy say tliat the boundaries between Ontario and Canada exist by law. and that llie Parliament of (Jreat Ibitain alone is the power that can clianj^e the.=e lioundaries. To tliis ))roposition T am disposed to assent, but if this boundary exists bylaw, WIIEKK IS IT ro ME KOIM) ? It exists by law. but the hiw is nut clear upon that point ; and. supposing!; the arbitrators ntade a com- promise. d<ies any f)ne pretend to say that they thereby sacrificed t!ie rights of Ontario or the riuhts of Canada? If the ari>itrators had taken the conten- tions of either party and had said : ''We will not admit the one proposition or the other ; but will take a little t'roni one side of the case and a little from the other. ■" Who can say that they took away any riJJ:llt^ that belonged to either? I>ut whether or not this view be correct — whether the question was solved as a compromise or as a question of law -at all events there is the award, and it is binding unless you can show a better objection to it than has yet been brought forward. Of the award itself I will say nothing; it has been so ably defended by my honoraltle friend from Bothwell (Mr. Mills) that it would be prepos- fl ji' j! 154 HPEECII terous ill me to add a word to what ho has said. More- ovor, I do not see tlie necessity of del'endin^f it. It does not recjuire to he defended, and the olyjections offered against it are of the most frivolous character ; and, sujtposing the proposition now before tlic FIouso should carry and that the ([uestion should he referred to the Supremo Court or Privy Council, does any one 8upp(tse that the decision of whatever trilmnnl it miglit he hrouglit hefore would satisfy everyone con- cerned? No, Mr. Speaker ; there are objection'' to the award now, and there would be objections brou<iht aj;alnst the decision of any other tribunal before which it inifrht be carried. T think it is Jean .Tacciues Rousseau who said that no two men ever discus-icd a ({uestion without each remaining more convinced of his own ophiion than before the argument began. So it is in every law court. Where is the judge that can satisfy both parties? The loser always thinks that he has been wrongly treated. So it would beil'this ques- tion were referred to the Su])reme Court. T shall not touch ujxtn the merits of the award, but I sity it is iin award niNl>IX(i ox ItOTU I'A1^TIES, and that it is the duty of both parties to receive it and (;any it out in its entirfty. In speaking tlius, I itm perl'eclly well aware that T shall be violently iittacked in my own province by the members of the Conservative i)iirty. lionoral)l(! Members: Hear, hear ! Mr. iiaurier. T see that T have not mistaken the spirit of honorable gentlemen oppf)site. T see that I have not mist:iken the views of my honorable friends opposite. T know their prejudices too well, not to know in advance what their argument will 1)0 ; T know that it will be an appeal to the baser prejudices of my fellow-countrymen, liut, Sir, T have too much respect for the justice of my countrymen to fear the effect of those appeals. Two years ago, when a motioji ON THE (JXTAklO noiNDAUY QUESTION 155 W113 miule to appoint ii Cominittoe to investlRiite tho uwtiril, T, in common with Bome of my friends on this side of tlio Houso, voted af,'ain3t such a Committee, heciiUHo we liolieved tlien, as we believe now, that the (luestion liad been settled, and that it should not l»e aj^'ain opened. We were attacked then, as we shall be attacked now ; it was represented that we had pacridced the interests (»four province for the sake of Ontario. It would seem to tiiese honorable gentle- men that to do justice to Ontario means to sacrifice the interests of Quebe(^ Tt must be remembered that thi^ award grants nothing to Ontario but what Onta- rio had before; it does not prct(!nd to give any addi- tional territory to Ontario; it pretends simply to award to Ontario the territory to which she is entitled. lUit we were represented as the enemies of our pro- vince. fiCt me tell honorable gentlemen opjiosite, what T have often said elsewhere, that THK CONSKHVATIVK I'.\RTY oK TO- DAY are not the party that were led at one time liy Sir (icorge Ktienne ('artier. Some honorable members ; — Oh ! oh ! Mr. Lauricr; — Will the honoraltle gentlemen. who now take so strong objection to my languiiire, i)reten(l that on this (pujstioii tlicy bold the views that were held by Sir (ieorge ('artier? Dn they not know that Sir (ieorge Carticr, in many State jiapcrs signed I ly himself, granted to the ])rovince of Ontario far more territory than is granted to her by this award? Fu order that there juay l)c no doubt on tiiat ])oint, let me refer them to the desi):it('h signed by Sir (ieorge ('artier and bis then culleaguc the honorable member for Ifalton (Mr. .McOougall) on this very iiue-tioii. As honorable gentlemen remember, when the Dawson route Wiis oi)ened in ISllK, strong olijection was mnde by the lluflson's Uay ('omj):iny against the ('iiniidijin (iovernment opening a route through the territory between the Ijake of the Woods iuid Ued lliver ti i ft' 1)6 spKEcir bftmif^c they f^iiid it was iij\ .'idiii).' their rijilil.^. Tn llli^ Sir(i('"rj,'o ('nrtifM- niiil .Mr. .McJ)(»u;:iill lu.'ulcii rcjily. ill wliicli tlicy dci hircti tliiit, w liiittvcr (|i>iilit iiiifflit cxi.st i\.H t(» tlic limits ul' did or l-'iciu'li ('!iiiiiihi, no iiii|i;irtiul iiiv('Hti).Mtor could doiilit tliat tlicy rxlpiidi'd to iind iiiciiKlcd tin; cciuntry luilwfcn tlio iiiikf of tin' \\'i>o(l.s iiiid Kfd llivfr. r liavc no dduht lliiit it" Sir ( ifur^'c Ciirlirr \ver<! i^till U'luliii;,' Id;' piiity he would ludd tlio Hiiiiio opinion, jind I venture to Hay tli;d this (|Ui-ition wouM iicvci' luive hrcii nii'Cfi. hut tli«' award would have hecn carried (Uit. Il' there wii.s a <|uality lor which SirCieor^e I'jirtier deserveil to he admired, it was his eoura^'c, and, ne.xt to hi.'a eoura<5c. his fairness to an ailvcrsary ; anil, knowing; liini as we once knew him, I say he would not have prone hack on his word, hut would have jfivcn whatever ju-<lic(.> was due to Ontario; and [ repeat a^'ain. that those i^entlenicn who are proposiiifi; to erect ii monu- ment to Sir (Icor^e ('artier arc; slapping that very monument whenever they raise any ohjet'tion aj^'.-iin.st the award, f Iind that the honi»rahle mcmher for llalton, a tew mordhs afterwards, as well as .Mr. Cau- ehon, in 1SH7, wIhmi he was a memher of tlio ('anadiaii (iovernnient, also t<»uk the {ground that the territory « xtended AS KAU .\S KKIi UIVKU. If this (juestion is referred to the I'rivy Council, in what position will the Canadian (Joverniuent stand? They will stand in this position — that wlien it was to their iiiter(5st. when they were lightini; the Hudson's ]{ay Company, to claim that territory, they did so, and that now, when it i.? to their interest, they are asserting the very reverse, ft may he that the Privy Cfunicil will hold their jKisition to he legal, but cer- tainly, if it is legal, it will ho neitlier honorahle nor dignified. JJut let me refer to the position of my fel- low-countrymen from the province of Quehec. When it was asserted we were sacrilicing the riglits of our ,11 ON Tin; oNTAIJM IlirjNDAUV i^l EHTIdN lu £ |irovn('o. it was (tlijoptod tlmt tlic tnrritory of Ontario \va-< alr«'a(ly irn'at aiiil tiiat tliis jiw aitl iiia<lf it >till j^rfiitcr: ainl it was a<l(ifil tliat it'a lai.;f! in'imlatioii Bt'ttlcd tiuT(! Ontario would have a larjif ))ri'|ioii(l»'r- anc*' ot' powi'r in the Domini. >n. Now, let uh hu|i- ]to-f' tliat tliL' ([ucstioii is op.'ncd anew. I'lic award may Ixt set fisidc. mid it may lie that Ontiirio will ho in('roa-f«>d to the «>xtoi!t claiMicd as iier rij,lit hy the I )n I nil! ion (iovcrnnicnt. or it may he ilint tin' tfi ritoiy of Ontario will he incrcaHcil to the cxlfiii claimed l>y Ontario, and jiraiitcd hy Sir (Icorjjc! (Miiicf. namely, to Kt'(l Ilivcr — what then? '^'ou will have the |'ro- vinco of Ontario madi' ^neater than ii is hytheaward. As for a larj^'e |)0|)ulation Hcttlinp- in thai territory, does any one su|>|io!Je that tlii,-) will he nali/ed lor a hundreil years to come '/ Wh »t immi^'ration will l^o into the roel<y ronntry ho lon^r as the vast prairie* in the North- West are to l)t; tilled tip? TliR fear is per- fectly chimerical. THE whom: nisiaTic lies in the int(M'pretation (tf the Act of 1771. The honoralile niemher I'or liothwell argued that the ]>ro- vince of Qneliec. ns constituted in 177 I. was comprised within the followinjr limits: To the east hy the ocean, to the west hy the .Mississippi Uiver. to the north liy the Hudson jijiy Territories, and to the south hy the lines which h.ive heen descrihed. On the other hand, it Is enntcnided hy the honorahle nuMuhers I'or Niajrara, Ilichmond and Woli'e. and I'rovoncher, and in fact l)y all honorahle memhers opposite who Inive sjjoken on this suhject. that the term " northward " applies to a, line to lie drawn ilue north from the junction of the Mississippi with the Ohio; and that this astronomical line was to he the western houndary of the province. The honorahle niemher for iJolhwcll ar<;ued forcihly that, if that contention were admitted, the province of Que!)ec. which ..as then constituted, was let't without any houndary on the north. If this contention ho Ji 11 1 158 SPEECH ON THE ONTAKIO BOUNDARY QtTESTION true, wliere is the northern l»oun(.hi/y of Quehec to be found ? If none was provided in the Act of 1774, it must be thsit established by the Royal Proclamation of 17iv). In tiiat case, it would be a line passing through the middle of Lake St John. This territory has always been claimed by the Province of Quebec, and at this moment the (ioverniuent of that province are making great efforts to settle a large population there. I do not say the contention of the honorable member for iJothwell is right, but I say that, if you deny Ontario the l)oundary she claims, she may deny Quebec her northern Iwundary. and those sectional cries, which at one time were thought to be forever destroyed, would be renewed. The ciuestion having been settled ought to remain settled. There is no occasion to open it anew. I do not fear tiie appeal that will be made against me in my own province on the vote I intend giving. I have no hesitation in saying this award is bintUng on l)oth j)artie3, and should be carried out in good faith. The consideration that the great province of Ontario may be made greater I altogether lay aside as unfair, unfriendly, and unjust. This is not a questicni of expediency, it is A (^rKSTION OF .irsTicE I. do not gruilgc to Ontario the extent of territory declared hers under this iiward, and which does not constitute (>ven the whole of what she is entitled to, according to the opininn of one of the most learned and imlustrious of my countrymen. The etei'iial 'prin- ciples ofjusticeare far more important than thousands or millions of acres of land, and I say, let us adhere to those ])rinci[)le9 of justice, and in so doing wo will have the surest foundation for securing justice on every occasion. Pi! f I I! I; A i^nrpi N HTAXT THK RIGHT OF TIIK PKOVINCK."^ TO LEOIS- LATE AS IlEOAKDS LTCENSK.s Is CONFEDEUATION A DISCI ISED I.K(iIM.ATI\E IN I ON ? In ISS;;, the I'V'dcral (invoiniiicnt lunl attouiptt'ci to taUo away liom tlie piovinoes the li;:! it to legislate in the matter of licenses for the sali^ of spirituous li(iiior,s. This oncroaelnuent upon the rights ol ihi' I'lovincial Le!.'islatures was so sclt->vi- (leiit that,at the vi'rv ne.\tsession(lSS4)a suppoi ler ol the<iov- einnieiit itself, the late Mr. lloude, proposed the repeal, pure ami simi>leof tiie usuri)ing law. The (-bllowing spceeii liy -Mr. i.aurier on the occasion )>erfectly sinus up the whole ilehate : Mr «rEAKi:i;. Ill view (if what has Ijeeii statod by luy hoiiorahlc Irieinl tVoiu Queliec ("ontre (Mr. Uos.se),! luiist refer to to tJK' hmguagc which was iiindo Uso of ia.-t year liy the tioveninieiit and contra^5t it with tiieir hm^ruage oft()-(hiy. Tt is witliin the recolh>"tion of ('veryhody. and has lieen inentioneil several times to-day, that la^t year the (iovernnient [jroposed this h'jiislatioii. whicli it is now sougld to repeal, luidei' the alisoiute plea of necessitv.The Prime .Minister .staled that there was iio i I ■ l' 1 i 1' 1 : 1 : 1 1' 1 1 1; ! ' l' I' ■ H r >' I 1 1 ' 1 ► '■ m H ^ii 11 li hi'! I fli HI'EECIt IGO law ti> prevent tliesalo ofintoxieatinf!; liijuors ; that all the law.s which haveheen passed by the [d'ovinecs were null and void, and that ut any moment any man oituM open a shop, and there were no [xtwcr on earth to prevent him tVom sellinjf litiuor. Tn view of the atti- tude taken hy my honorahle friend, the words of the First Minister, thouirh they haveheen already (pioted in thi^ drhate. will liear re[»etition. The I'rinu- Mi- nistci thcrn said : I'liiit sii!)ji'ct was iidt williiiL'ly undertakpii liy tlii> ]ii'esoiit. (ioviMnnii'iit. Tlicy wove i|nite s^atistii^il that tlie law, ns it olit.'iiii< in till' iliffiTont |,roviiices, slioiikl bo coiitimitvl. Tlioy \vor(Miuit<» sati-itii'il fliat each (novinrf sliouhl, so i'ai' as tlio law WDuld allow it t<i enact such statutes, deal with the suh- jcot of shop, tavern and saloon licence.-. Then later, the right honorahle gentleman. si)eak- ing of tli(! decision in Uussell and the Queen, said: Sir, if there be any value in that decision, and there is every value in it, because it is tln' law of the land, there is no check at the present moment, in the province ot ( )ntario, a- j.'ainst the unlimited, unrestraineil sale of intoxicating li(|Uors. 'fliis is not a matter we can jilay \vitli. It is not a matter of l)oli(;y ; it is a matter of necessity. If we wish te prevent the unr(;strained sale of intoxicating liquors we must legislate im- mediately : for I take it, that any man in this city, or in any ]iiit of Ontario, can open his saloon and sell lii[Uors,and there is not a court in the world can prevent his (loing so. Mr. Speaker, tliis was VERY s'n;o.N(i i.AM.r.M.i:. and it was owing to this laijguage that that law was put upon the statute r>ook. It is within the know- ledge (jf nmny mend;er.- of this House that it was with the greatest riductance that iuany supporters of the (iovernnuMit, especially those representing (iueliee contituenc es, voted !'or that law. They looked U|ion it as an infrigement u])oa the rights of the ))rovince8. they looked upon it as an infringement of the power which rightly lielong to the provinces. J>ut when III \ l|i ON THE LICKNSE ACT OK 1S83 K'.l tlicy wero told l)y so Iii^'h ii (>on.«titnti(it):il niitlinril y us tlie I'l'oiiiier ol'tliis I)(Jiiiinion that jill the law.^. which li.itl hitlierto re<jcuLito(l tho triulc in liquors, were null ail void, tliat the )>iovin('o^ had alxolutcly no imwrr to lo^fislate upon thi.s matter, thiit the only ])o\\('r to legislate upon tliis matter resided with tlii^i Parlia- ment, that any man could 0))en shop and sell without restniint, the con-ienueiices were appalling-, and the ])r()S]>ect was such that they yielded to those con.^idera- !ionf and enaeted that law. T venture to say. .Mr. Sjjeaker. without fear ofcontridietion, tlnit had it not heen for the stronu: hintrunj^e used hy the Prime .Mi- nister, had he not given it AS HIS DKI.inKIJAI'K olM.Vlo.V — and his opinion was cnlitle(l to L^reat credit — that the i)roviiues had no riiiht to le;:;islate upon thi.s mat- ter, thi.s liill would never have l)eci)ine law. I>ut his authority was great with his ibllow(>rs. Ft w asset great that it indueeil a great many of his followers to vote for that hill. ag;iinst what they helieved to he the hest interests of the provinces. Tliere can he no donht.in view of what has since trans])ired, that that ohnox- ic.ns legislation has heen ohtained, iis it were, undei' false jtretences. There can he no douht that the opi- nion then ex]iressed hy tho First Minister was wrong. It is now judicially estahlislicd that the provinces have the pow(>r to regulate the sale of intoxicating liipiors. This caniiot he longer dis])i'ted. No one can say. in view of the decision rendered in the case of IFodge, that the provinces have nut tho ])ower to regulate the Ji4Uf)r tralic. On the contrary, the decision has heen rendered u])on that very i)oin1 — it was the only (jues- tion .«ul)mitted to th(> Privy ( ouncil. ;ind upon that very point the Pavy Council hns rendered a decision which is cleiir and manifest; ami the decision is to this etT'ect, that the regulation oi' th<' liipior triillic is within the powers assigned under th(> eonstitiitiun 1o the provinces. It seems to me that, under such cir- 11 'I I'll' i n r .{i f ^ ti:r ■; 162 SrEEfll funistances, when the Government declared hnst year that the only motive which ' ni)elled them to legis- late, was tiiat the Legislatures had no such power. tliey should have hcen sat sfied to leave the matter within their control. They should declare to the House that they have heen in error and WII.l, HESTOltK THAT I'OWER to the provinces. That course would seem to he oh- viously the cnrrcct one ; yet what do we see ? Do we seethe (invernment rising in their places and saying : We thiiught the provinces had no power, hut now we see thiit tlie provinces have the jxiwcr ? Xn ; they say : we want to test whether we have not the same power as is po>sessed hy the provinces. That is thejiosition taken. I venture to say this : the true in- wardness of this legislation is not to be found in yU- nislerial exphinations or in the language of Ministers, hut it is to he found in the Conservative press of On- tario. Anyone who has f(»llowed the Conservative press <if Ontiirio for the last few years is aware that since liie granting of licenses has liecn phicedin the hands ofcommissioneria[)pointed hy the I'r'>vincial Govern- ment, conijtlaints have ])een loud and freijuent a- gainst that system. Conipltiints have heen loud and freciuent thnt the commissioners were partisans. .Some honorable members. 11 ear, near : 1 Mr. Laurier : — I see the comjjlaints are even re- )eatc(l in this House. T believe that the true inward- ness is not only to be found in the Conservative press of Ontario, but also in the following of the First Mi- ni.'iter from Ontario. If we have this law placed on the sta- tute l)Ook, it is sim]>ly because these comjtlainta liave l)een loud and many. T am sure that every <lisappointed tavern-keei)er who has been refused a license has declared that it was because he l)elonged to the (Vniservat.ve party ; that every low and disso- lute man, whose application was refused, did not ON Tin: LICENSE ACT OF 1883 ir,3 ]»lace the reason at liis own door, l»ut at tlie door of the conimissioncrs, and ctjniphiined that the reason accusati<ins v rre hroijjjht against him was hecause he was a Tor}'. Tlic reason we ]>ave for tliis measure is SlMI'l.Y FOR I'AUTY OAIN and advantage. Tt is to have tlie issue of licences l)hiced in tlie hands of coinniissioners a|)])ointed hj- the Conservative (lovernment. I believe if it were not for that consideration, we would not have had this law. The jilacing of the ])resent law on the statute hook is. in my o])inioii. un attack on the powers of the provinces. What is the amendment moved l)y the >linister of I'uhlic Works? It reads a.s follows : Tlint in ilm oj>inion ol tliis House it is cxju'ilicnt tliat tlip question of the eoinpoti'Ui'V of I'iuliainent to jmss tlio I.iijuor l^icensc Actof iss,'; should lie .-.uljuiittod, witli all convi'iiieiit speed, to tlie^upri'iut'l 'ourt of! 'aniula oi- tiic .Judicial Cnmniil- te<' ot the I'livy t'oUM'il, or both. Why is this amendment moved. T ask ? Ts there any doid>t as to the power of the proviiices to legislate upon this matter? 1 could conceive the propriety of the amendment, if it were still an open (piestion as to whether the power to regulate the liijuor trallic belongs to the provinces or to the Dominion. That was the (|uestion last year. IJut this year, iu view of the decision rendered in the case of llodgre, can it h(i dor.hted any more, is it not. in fact, deterinined tliat the provinces at this moment have power to regulate the trade. Is it not now a certain fact that all the legislation |)assed by the jirovinces of Oiiiurio and Quebec is law withim those resi)ectiv'e province.-^ ? lUil the aim of the (iovernment, which hist ye;ir wouhl have been satisfied to let the mutter rest with the ]irovinces, now wish it to be tested whether tiiey tliemselves fhave not also the power which the pro- vinces possess. What is the (juestiou involved in II' i » 164 Sl>KEi;il the .'iniendiiMiit ? It is {o (IctcnniiK' wlicllier t!ie Act ltjisse<l last soKf-idU i.-< luw uv not. T hjiv, imd T submit it to my ('Dlle.'iiiiic-J, lr<)in (iiiclicc oHpocially. that tho aiiicnilmful is an iMsaiilt on the ri<rlits of tlii> ]troviii- ces. We have this tad on tho one hand, whidi should not he lust siiihl ut". tiiat at this moment mil according- to the decnnon in the case of lfod,L,'e ■iiii; i.i:(.i-i.ATn)N oi' tiik imna inch is law. Tf the amendment is carried, wiiat will he tiie result' We will have the (juestion suhmitted to the Pri\ y ( 'ouiicil as to whc'her the Aet passed liy the Doniiniitii is not also law. Tt has heen W(dl arLCUi'il hy the lionmahle iii"mh(!r I'or l>elleehasse (Mr. Amyi)t ) that the i>ower to h>u;islate upiin tins matter eannot he eonfirmed. If it rests with the provinces itcanmit rest witli the Dominion. and I'/'V.' i-rrsd. Tt is now deter- mined that it rests witii the province.". Supi)<)se the (|ue-tinn which it is iutendeil to sulmiit to the I'rivy Cniuicil l>e answered in the allirmative, and iud;j:nn'nt, he rendereil that tlie law passed hy the i)ominion last year is valid and within tlie power of the l)iimini'iu Parliament — what then? Tlie cnnsf(iuence uill ht- that we shall have a douhle iniwer havin>>; authority to deal with this matter — the [mwer already admitted aslieinjr jiossessed hy the provinces, and tiiat which would e\i.-t in the nnniinion. Then we would have twti iiowers letiisjatin;!- coiieuricntly in tliis mutter the Dominion |iii\ver and the Provincial power. \\ the Dominion has powei' to lejiisjate in this luattei' and the provinces have the jiower also to legislat* Avhat will he the eonsetiuenee? Tlie conseciuenee will he that the leo-islation of the Dominion (ioverniiHiU will override the legislation oftln^ provinces, and the ])owers which the provinces now exercise must dimin- ish. Tt is (juite manifest that if this law, which it is in- tended to refer to the Privy Council, is an attrihuti(»n of the Dominion, we will have two concurrent ])owers to leiiislate over this matter, and what would the conse- f)N THK I.ICKNSK ACT (tV ISSIJ 165 (lUfUcc lie? The cons(3(iU(!nce iiuHt nfcessurily ha that tli(! power nftlifi provinoes would be (!urt:iiloil l)y Mil iiuu'li, thiit Jill the Icufishition wliicli now exi-it-i in OiitiU'io, Qiicliec. and the nthiir [troviiices of tlie Do- minion, wouhl li(! overridden l»y this law, and tlie laws nhicli arc now administered liv the i)rovince3, [d the l)enelit of those provinci's, would lie ?ui)erHeded hy the Act )>as,sed last year, on tlic plea that they were coiM|)elled to pass that Act. Let us see the road we have travelled since last year. List year the law Avas introduced as a matter of necessity ; it was not a matter o|' policy. It was not the desire that the F)o- minion should have power to legislate over this matter; the (iovernment were willing that that power should he retained hy the provinces. liut we find that what was last year a matter of necessity is this vear A MATTKU (»1- I'OMCV, and it is sought to have the ijueUion determined whe- ther this Donnnion cannot also have legislation in this matter. U\ my hunihle judgment, this i-j an in- fringement upon the powers of the provinces. It can- not be otherwise; and I ask the attention of those who value this Federal system, when T enquire if the ob- ject of the amendment is not, in the end, to deprive the jn-ovinees of the right which legitimately per- tains to them to-day. Now, this is a serious matter, in my humble opinion. Tt is a step towards legisla- tive union, as has well been said this afternoon, t say that every succes.sful attempt made, on the tlo<»r of this Parliament, to deprive any provinceof any power now exercised by that province, however insignificant that power may be, is a successful step in the direc- tion of legislative union. Now, I am well aware that legislative union is more in the favour of many mem- bers of this House than a federative uaion. i knovr that many honorable members would view the (dian^^e to a legislative union without any alarai whatever. f ^ '1 t V , 1 t' \ : lor, SPKECH For my own part, T l)elievo that the federative gyfltein is the ho.st of all system!^ which can he devised to gov- ern this larifc territory. We are all aware that the tact of our liavinj,' the present system of Confedera- tion is largely due tothe i)eeuliar position of the pro- vince of Quehec : it is largely due tothe fact that the elements to he united were not honiogeneoug. It is possible that if the elements had heeu homogeneous, the union would have been a legislative and not a federal one, but, wluithcr or not, those elements were all homogeneous, I still submit that the best system, TIIK ONI.V SV^TKM a n. • l)y which tn govern this great territory, is a federa- tive, and not a legislative union. Upon this fjuestion let me (juote the opinion of a man whose ideas, I am sure, will commend themselves to, and whose autho- rity will l)e respected iiy all the members of this House, and especially the member.s of FrtMieh nrigin. I refer to Montesquieu, who, in his ''Sj)irit of the Law " speaks thus : If ii repiililin Ijt' t^iiinll, it is ilostroyed Iiy a torciirn Ibrot^ ; if it be liir.i:'^, it is niiiuMl Iiy uii interiiiil iiupoi lootion. To tiiis twotold iiicniiv* iiienccMlcinocracies jiii(la"istot'racios)irc(>(|HMlly liubl(». \viK'tli(M' they be jidod oi had. 'I'lie evil i> in the very tiiin,-' itscb', and no form can redress it. It i«, therolore, very prohahlo that niiinl<ind would have lieen. at len^'tli, obh,i.'ed to Hve oon.'^tantly iin<ler tlie ^irovi'innifnt of a single iiorson, iiid tliey not ooiilrivfd n kind of eon.-:titution. that has all the in- tcinal advantages ol a rrpuliliean. tojr'-ther with the I'xternnl force ol ii laonanliieal govciaiineni. 1 nn>an a <'onfederato i('linl)lic. This form ol'gov(Minnent is a convention hy which si-voiiil petty .'^tatfs agree to Ix-coine niemher.s ol a larger one, which they intend to cstahiish. It is a kind of assenihhige of societies', that constitnto a new one, capahle of iucroasinL'. hy means of I'lirtiier associations, till thi\v arrive to such a degree (if power as to be able to [trovido for the, si-curity of the whole bodv. Now. it is to l»e remarked that at the time Mon- OK TIIK LICENSE LAW OFISSO l(i7 te.si|uieu wrote these word^, the woill.hatl not hocu tliL' hirjfo Cont'etlertiiinn wliich has since sprunir U|> on tliis continent. At the timo lie thus wrote, tlio only (confederacies wliich he touched upon in lii^ book were tlie Dutch Confederacy, tlio Swiss Confech"- racy and the (iernian Empire. Now all tliene three put together would not exceed in size one of our pro- vinces, and any one of theiu singly would not exceed the size of one of our counties, and the dangers which iu; then foresaw, and which were ohvialed by thir* form of government, are magnified l)y the magni- tude of our territory. According to tliat authority, it would lj(> impossibleto govern those large territurie-J «!xtending from one ocean to the other, by a singlo government, unless, indeed, that government wore despotic, in which case TUKRE won. I) r,K Rri'TiHi:. lUit our system obviates all these dilUculties ; our municii)al and provincial divisions, our Federal system, all these wh(>cls within wheels constitute a mechanism, which is at once elastic and strung. Therelorc, f say tliat this system is the Ijest which can be devised, and it l)ehooves (>very man in this Parliament, every friend of this country, to sec that no att-^mpt is made upon this lurm of government. I can well understand the ctmduct of the present I're- mier ; but 1 cmifess T tim surprised at the attitude takf.n by the .Minister of i'ublic Wnrks and by some of the members from the province of Quebec. I can understand the attitmle of the Premier, becausi^T do nut think it is slandering him to say tiiat his prefer- ences are not in favour of a federative union. I believe it is a matter of history that at the titne the provinces were united, if that honoraI)le gentleman liail it in liis power to stamp the constitution with his lull mind, the bond of union would not have been a federati''c but a legislative one. It is a matter of lii.stiiry that the men whose ascendancy at the time ll ir.s HPEKCH ]»rt'vail('il were Sir (leorpe ("iirtior andtliP IfoiioniMc (it'()r;ie l»n»\vn. ft in a niatter ol' liistorv lluit it wm;' llirnuj5li tlioir ((iiultincd ('tTi)iti' tliiit the < niistitutioii rt'coived the t'('(l<'riitivf cliju'uctt'r wliicli it did reteivc. Tlicy were Ixitli in I'iivour ol' a Icdciiitiv '■ iiiiidii. and thoy were lt(jtli at the heud of larj^c niaj<>riti<>H. each (tno t'loni hi.s own section ot' tin' country, and their Ktrortrt prevailed in that direction. 1 helieve I can ahso siiy that it is a mutter ol' history that over since. and esiiecially since the honorahle ;,''entlenian relnrned ti) power, he has endeavoured to forward legi.slatioii \vhicli is I n n 5l f. I J I li^ ' I i ^il (iltADIAI.I.V sri'KllSKliINO the federative character of this union and niakinj; it a le^dslative union. The outward forms are niain- taineil : no letter of the law is attacked, hut jfradually and surely new principles are introduced, new feature.-? are added, and, though the superstructure is untouched, there is underneath it an interpretation of the inienl of that constitution which makes it just as much legislative in its character as if it had l>e(>n so made and decreed. You remember, .Mr. Speaker, that the Homan legislator never changed one single syllable of the law of the twelve tables ; but, by means of edicts succeHsively introduced, the Roman legis- lator introduced a new code of laws which, however, left the laws on the tables intact. The honorabh; gentleman is tollowing a similar course, though with a less laudable object. The vetoing of numerous laws admittedly within the i)t)wcr of the provinces to enact, the present attempt to take from the provinties legis- lation which belongs to them, and which has judi- cially been determined to belong to them, the new Franchise bill, which we see looming up in the future, are all attempts in the same direction — in the direc- tion of legislative union — and if all these measures are carried we will be nearer and nearer to a legis- lative union. If the same course is persisted in, t ox THK I.li KNSK LAW uK l^^.; 109 unions it is c'licckofl l)y the nicmlicrs n|' ilii-j IIdusc. w<' sliiill have liyiiii(l-l)y ii ('luircdcratioii in iiaine. liiit 11 legislative union in I'act ; tlic Local Le^'inlat ureH will !)(• iirc'i^(M'VC(l, liut they will he SIMI'I.V < n-ri.V (lUNAMKNTS, ami iiotliiiifj; more. As I have said. \ am not sur- ])ri.>^e<l at th«; conduct ot" the honoralde Premier ; ho is consistent; he i.^ true to liimself. W'lietlier acting conHciou.sly from desijrn, or moved hy th." unconscious hoiit of his mind, [cannot suy ; hut the fact is there, that he is all tlio time u'radually approach- iuL' towards a lo-rishitivo union. I am not sur- jirised at his conduct, hut I must say I would ho sur- |»rised at the conduct of any nu'mlier from the [irov- ince of Quelicc who would vote for the amendment now before the JIouso. I would venture to say that if the great man who was instrumental in assisting to franuttiie Confederation, sucli as it exists, were ^till in his place, his work would not Ix; demolished as it is now attempted to h;' : and T venture to say that, if the teaching which ho instilled into the hreasts of his followers remains with them still, this law will he repealed even this evening. Tt will, perhaps, he vain tor nie to invoke the testimony of the press. I did it once l)efore, liut in vain ; liut honorahle gentle- mean from the povince of Quehec are aware that the Avhole of their press, with one exception, are opposed to this liquor hiw. They all declare that it is an in- fringement upon Provincial rights. Ln Miiirrrr, which is edited l>y my honorahle friend from Ottawa, (Mr. Tassc) on the 18th of February, said : It is certain tiisit the Lords of the Privy Council have de- clared in thoir last judgment tliiit a v.'ionji inteipiotation liad been placod upon the dei-ision wliii'li tlioy iia<l reiiilereil in tlie case of Russell,, whicli had boon taken as tiie basin ol the law of 1S8;5. .Sir John A. Mac<lonald iiiiiiscH' derlurcMl at tiie opening of the jji-esent session, that he liad gone too I'ai last year, adding, however, that he did not pretend to t)eint'allible in (t h U I J J 170 SPEECH ON THE LICENSE T.AW OF ISS?, tli'^ iintt'T of (;oiistititti()!)iil liiw. Tlio itjtt-rijr.'t.'itinti wliicli WiH jfivcii Iii<t yi'iir to tin' jiiliriniMit it'tvlnri'il in tin- ciisi' of liU'Soll wiH nil lli(> iiiiiri' niifortuiiiito in lliiit it iiinlcriiiini'il tlii' very basis (if our pmviiicinl in-ttitutioiis, !iu.l liiit tli' rii-w lir.v wmiM li.'ivc, .'imoMj;-it oilit>r results, that of i|t'pri\iii>» the- <iov- fi'MMUMit of (^ucKcc, iu jiaiticuliir, tliiit < ioviM'tinnMit iilrt'iily so |ioor, oj'a ri'VtMHK! or i«litii,(iiin, a^ Mr. Kol"'i't-on ilt'cliiie'l iit Slirii(i'f)oki'. I 'ridiT tlii'sc lurcuiustiuici's, it is loitutiiiti' tli.it lli<i I'rivy ('(luiicil nou- u'liuits tntluT tint it hitl not <'X|i!'-sHt> I its('l|C|(>(irly or that its laimuajri- was wroiiu'ly iut"i|iii'ti"l. This I'uahloi us to truai the liiw of Jss.) in coiisoiiucui:!'. Then jinotlier rrovincitil paper. Ia^ I'aitnilii ii. till" 7th of Miircli. rtpciiks tliUH : ol When, for t'x.iuiiijf, i'<"ii!friiiiij^ thi> licfin'c lau.ati uii'l'iiiahlo intriufji'iufnt of our |iinvi'rs, \v(> arc aiipfalfil to on thc^riounil of o\U' |);irt\, on th(> irrouu'l of ourscutiuients of loyalty t'lwnnl Sii' .iolm, \vi" liavi- icasoii to aii^wiM that the most sacriNJ ol .ill til's is tilt' tic wiiich hlu'ls us to our iiroviMi'c, anl thil tho xvant (if ii>yalty would hi' iu tho'ic who would jicrsist in takiui: oui* liLrhts fi'.ini us. Tlic Lifrnse I^iw and the Fraui:hi»i* Bill, which Sir .hihn lias heen «>ndrn\ourin;; to i'.npos.i upoi, us I'm- the last two se.iHions, show with too much liiihl the end towaril which heaims, to uiake it possil^le lor ttiosc who an' oii]MPied to Ic^iislative union to lon;;eikccp >ilent."' I could iiiuUiitly tlioao citixtions, liut I williiid do so. Thc.^o iire sulficiciit to (ehow tlic ti'ndt-iu'y <>( the t'oiijiervativo |);irty. T tnUlrc-^.s iiiy.-ielf to lioiionildo "iontlcmoii oppiisite. ami I appeal to tliem to inaii\t;iia tlic ciiuslitution.Tii spciikiiiu; an T now dn.T do imt want lo he .-X'ctiiuial. I wouUl not make ANY SKI TIO.NAI, AI'PEAl oil ijii.s aHonaiiy other occasion. When T tisk my col- leriuues from the i>rovince oi'Qael)ec to vote in favour of the motion of my lion, friend from M as ki 110111:1'', I niuke no sectional appeal. It is aii ii))peiil in favour of the constitution, such a«> it i.s. All the provinces are interesiod in the integrity of the constitution, Inn no province so much as the province from which I come. PARLlAMENTAIiy LIFE LKCTIKK DKIJVKIIKI) I'.V W. l-ArillKK IIONOIIAIILK O.N TIIK IOtII \I.\V. 1SS|, | .\ ihk li()()M< UK l.A I'ATKIK AT MoNlliKAI, Mi;. ClIAIIiMAN, AM) ( iKNTI.FMKN : One iiiu.-t nct'ds holiovo tlx' cvidciico ol his oycH, Idit. to Ipclicvc it. he requires the (ividcnccdt'liis eyes. We Imvo iiiPt tiiis ov(Miin<:. on the invitation ot" ;i Lilx-rnl journalist, who receives us here, in .Montreiil, amid the ho-ipitiihle .surroundinj^'s of iiis own niovejiMe iind iniiiiovealde |»ro|i(>rty. Indeed, nothiuLT h's^ wim needed tiian the evidence of our own eyes to convinen U.1 of tlie existence ol'a fact so unusual in tlie history oftlie iiiheral press ot' our race in thi-i country. ; Tl datioi lose who are aware tliat. previous to tlie hum- /.'/ I'lilfir l>v .Mr. lleau''rand, the Liheral I ol ])ress m tins city only nian'i<reil to exist thiouLih dnit ol' ciinstaiit sacrilices, as well as tho«e who reineiidier the druins on their purses to whi'-li it was nece.-sary to rosort in order to kee]) the life in /.'■ Pai/s and A'' Ndiiniinl, will undoulitedly he as 8urpri.s(Ml as they are rejoic ■(! at Mr. r>ea\ijirand's success. Stiil more is he deserving of their th;ini<-i for the niarUed service he has thereWy rendered to the liiheral party. IFo has jtroved that it is possihle not only to publish, hut to j)ul)lish prolitahly a Fremdi Lilieral paper. Until lately, the prevailing- impression was that ^ ( a 'SB 172 i.Kc'rrRK i'-i ii n lii J s I! '■■ I'' PI in this country, wlioro educ;ition i^ still so little widc- sprciid. a Fr(;nch piquu- could not live save with the liel|i of odirial subHii(lie3 and ^^illistel•ial favor.s, and, :i,> the r>il)t'i-al party, as well in as out of jxiwer, has always net its I'ace against such methods, it was the •reneral heliefthat the party's newspapers could only exist tiirough the generosity of the friends of the cause. Once more, therefore, I say that Mr. iJcau- grand has done the fjiberal party a signal service by giving th(^ death-blow to a humiliating notion and by showing that th(> best and surest resources of jour- nalism are to be found among the people themselves. Mr. IJeaugrand's success certainly denotes on his )iart the possession of special aptitudes and (irst class administrative abilities. The times, however, have changed, fiiberal journalism in this province has now greater latitude, enjoys, so to say, a wider held and more elbow room than it had at even a com])aratively recent date. Indeed, I doubt whether Mr. Beaugrand liimsolf, if he had published /.'' /'"//s or Lr Naiioncil, would have lieen in a position to receive us as he is receiving us this evening. The study of these social changes, which render jiossible to-day a success which was im])os9ible only a few years liack, would furnisii an admirable subject for a lecture, but, as it would lead me on to one of the most irritating, if not naost delicate, grounds of poli- tics, T will, with Mr. IJeaugrand's permission, reserve it for another occasion. For the ])resent, I i)ropose to go outside of politics, though I may, perhaps, fail to keej) very far away from them. I propose to apeak to you of parliamentary life, not of public life, for the latter is already well enough known. During the three months of the session, which is its usual duration, what is said and what is done are published daily, commented upon, criticized, ai)priA'ed, blamed, by all the voices of modern publi- city. T could say nothing on this subject which is not already well known by everybody. But there is UN I'AIILIAMKNTAHV I.IFK ITM iinother aspect to the sessioa : the inner or donie-iic inspect, nhicli the press dischiins to noti(;e. whicli can only lie oljperved on tlic 9i)ot and whioli is ali-'o not without instruction. It is this aspect to which T desire to call your attention. It may, per]ia])S, not he mispLaced, at the start. to say a word relative to the capital. The suhject is a. uciicale one wouhl not wi-^li to a V anytlim!.' sav anv- dispara^tinj.; of the (!a|(ital, bu! it is hard li thint;; i^ood of it. Ottawa is not a handsome city and does not appear destined to Ijcconie one either. There is, however, in it one point ol' threat beauty — the site ot'the Parliament lluildinLfs. on a (difl risint; up I'roni the bed of the river, not I'ar from the falls which have been rendered famous by the acct)unts oi' every tra- veller since Ohami)lain. This is Ottawa's only natural bc-auty. Uehind tin- (diff, the land sinks into a monotonous i)lain. with a Hat horizon unlirokon by a sinfile line. The Piirliament Huildinirs aie in the (Jothic style, and. ill the opinion of connois-eurs. entitled to rank w ith the best ar^-hitect ure of 10iiro[ )('. Til ev eertamiv liave an admirable etfect either when (hey l(r<'ak upon the siiiiit liathed in the iirilliant liaiit ot' the summer sun or when seen on a dark winter's niirlit illumi- nated from within by the Hoods of light, whieh shine in capricious arabesques throu,i;"h their many oiiiv.-il windows. l)Ut. despite their uniiuesi innable beauty. these build- in<;-s are badly adap(e(t to the purpose for which tbt-y ere intended. The(i"'hic stvle. al AV in ou wa V adnnrat) tward cfFect. remlers the int(M'i(»r dark and en nd it mav be saiil tiiat this stvh^ was Itadlv suiteil ti tin? kind of buildinsxs in whicii air and liubt should circulate a^' freely as povsilde. As Mr. Mackenzie said (tne ilay, these buildings were s]»lc'ii(lidly adapted foi' a monastery, but never for a legislative assembly. However. therein once a year meet the Senate and Commons of ("amnio. Tin" opening of Parliament is always a great event for Ottawa, it invariably excites w hH' I n f If 174 LECTrRE the whole pojmhition, but they b,y no means inono- ])olize tlie excitement, us tlie city is always crowdeil on such occasions with strangers from all parts of tiie country. The olUcial ceremonies are announced to take place at three in the afternoon. I Jut, from eleven in the forenoon, the crowd begins to gather on the grounds anr^by tliroe o'clock the latter are comple- tely iilled. In 1S71), as early as ten o'clock in the morning, the doors of the Senate Chamber were be- sieged by a crowd anxious to get a goud view of the Princess Louise. Moreover, these opening ceremonies are nut lack ing in grandeur and are certainly curious to Ijehold. These old customs and antiijue solemnities, trans- planted from another world to our mndprn anil demo- cratic midst, and connecting the middle ages with our contemporary epoch, open up all the pages of his- tory from tlie day on which William the Conqueror landed on the shores of Juigland down to the day on Avhich a royal princess, descended I'rom the blood of William, comes to take her place in these old cere- monies, which were carried hy the Conqueror from Normandy into Kngland and imported from England to this continent, in the niidst of a population a large portion of whom have themselves been deta(died from tlie land which was the cradle of William the Con- (lueror. It is to the Senate Chamber goes the (lovernor. This cliamlx'r is very liiie and of the same size and architecture as that of the Coniinona.but the draperies andfurnituie are in excellent taste and give it a. stamp wliich is altogether missed i'rom the Commons' chamber. On this occasi(>n. however, the Senate Chamber is resplendent. I^adies are admitted to the floor and ai)]iear in full dress; the judges of the Su- preme Court are present in their scarlet robes bor- dered with ermine ; and the Cabinet Ministers attend in their gold-laced uniforms. I do not admit, how- ever, that all tliis searlet and gold la(;e is to my t aste. ON PARMAJrENTAUY I.IKE 175 T Wduld prefer to see the judties in the ordinary silk rohes, which are pl.nn, it is true, but not wanting in dignity, and, as foi >hegold-hiced uniforms, tliey nuiy he suited to Westminster, hut, in this (k-mocratic country, the simple black coiit unquestionably ap- l)oars l)ettcr. T have already said that the ceremony is Hxod for three o'clock, and, l)ct\veen the oilicial liour and the practical hour, the old Senators attemiit to indulge in innocent flirtations with Ihcir lair jruests. At last, the (iovernor has arrived amid the usual enthusiastic cheering and taken his seat on the Throne. He desires thepresence of his '• faithful Com- mons "". And, during this time, what are the faithful Com- mons doing? Having nothing to do. they haveendea- vort-d to be as noisy as possible. Nothing resend)le3 a sciujoL more than Parliament. Kothing is more like the reoiicning of the classes than the 0})cning of Parliament. I)es])ite the ten months of continement to follow, the day of reopening (jf the classes is always a gay one. and the same may be said of the day of the opening of the session. The ]>leasureof meeting eacli other again, the almost ceaseless handshakmg, the exchaiig(> of niore or less spicy jokes, all are to In; found in Parliament just the *iame as in school, on opening day. P)Ut, hark I to the three kin'cks at the chamber door. The Sergeant-at-Arms goes to see wliat"s the trouble, just as if he was not (juite well aware before- hand, lie returns grave and solemn to announce fo the Speaker that a messenger from the Senate is wait- ing at the door, and with no less gravity and sob/m- nity the S[>eaker answers: " I.ct the iiies.-enger enter I"' The messenger enters. It is the UsIkt oI the JUack Rod, the chief ollicer of the Senate, who coiiics to announce that the (iovernor (ieneral desires the jiresence of the Commons in the Senatt; Chamber, liefore o])ening his mouth, he advances nine steps, ^ TI I • i i' H Mi • f:! ITC LK< TlliK (i !■ , if * 111 luakiiij); tlireo liuws as he proceeds, nnd, liiivino doliv- t'red lii:^ nicssimc, lie hacka out, ro(»oiitii);i the siuue nuiiil'*.'!' of sUqis and of hows, wlictds on his hoel.s and diHappeais, invariMhly accompanied hy a lornii- (hihle chippinu oi' liands from all parts of the cham- h.-r. John Ihill seems to take a jieronnial ])leasur(' in secinji- these hows made hy a ni;in pnid to niiikc tlicin. and llio same r<Mnark is r('[)eat(Mi (n'er\' yeai' ; " A\'ell. it is worth the money I '". Then, lik(( s<i miiuy unruly hoys, tin; niemhera ru-h in a troop to the Senate Chamher. Their least anxiety, howevei', is to listen to His Exeelleney's speech. They lenve that duty to the S[)eaker, who discharges it iim-t religiously. I have use'l the term Speaker in alluding to the liresident or chairman of the lli>use of ("ommims. I am not ignorant of the long controversy, which took place in the press over the renih>ring into Frencii of the English word " Speaker, "" hut it is not my inten- tion to mix myself up with it. as I have no desire to add another to the li<t of siiarling critics to whom the country has given hirtli. It is sim})Iy woiulerful how many literary critics we have, wluni W(! have so little lileraturi'. hut. in spite of all the snarling critics, I ])ursist ill translating the word " Speaker " Viy the French word '■ Orateuv ; '" to translate the word '* Sjieaker iiy the word ■"president" reminds me of thetime when I w;is a student here and when it was said that an ennnent lawyi-r. who e;ime acros.- the word " hy-and- hy ■■ in a U'tter. vehemently maintained that it meant " to-morrow. The reason assigned foi' translating the word '■ Speakei' ■' liy the word ■' j)resident " is that it would he a couritei'-.-cnse to call inm the Sjteaker. since lu> takes no i.iart in the del)ates arid since his functions consist in jn-esiding over the chamher. lUit tliose who take this groimd do not reflect that, if it was a coun- ter-sense in French to sav Uralcur, it would also he a • i: ON rARI.IAMKXTARY I.H-K 177 fonntcr-son-ic in Kn;.r]ioli to s.iv '' SpoMkor. '' Tn tlio Kuglif-.li hiujjiua.iie. tliere is an ubsDlute c(iuivalent for our word I'lrsidrnl ; it is tlie word '" i)re:^ident '' ;ind. il'tliey do not u>?e it to de.-^iu-niite tlio jicrsoii jiro-iding ov('V the House of Coiiiuion.-J, tliore must lie a reason for it. T luivc noticed that tlio.-o afToitod puritans wlio l)ersist in calling tiie S|)t,'aker i)resident usually belong to the si-hool which nuikcs a groat display of its principles and systematically curses modern France. T naturally conclude that they must at least have read the good author.s of the age of Ijouis X[V. They are \^-ell aware that, on every page.thereisan allusion to the sovereign of what was then the duchy of ]Javaria. and who nevertheless is never stvied the ]) uue. hut the "■ Elector )f ] Javarui. of us Would it n(^t he also a counter-sense, in the eyes ar critics, to designate the sovcreiun of this duchv n elector ? I'.ut the reason foi' it is that the govreign of the duchy of Uavaria was nt the same time an elector of the Holy Empire and that thi« quality took ])recedenco over the other. Under the old organization of the Emi)ire. there was in (iermany a crowd of small principalities, whose rulers, like the duke (d' Uavaria. had the title of Elector as their prin- cipal title. riiis title of Elector formerly carried great weight in (M'rniany. ami even yet the word has an imimsing sound in (ierman ear.s. if we are to credit the capital joke which Henry Lahouchere lately playe(l on them and whi(di tho-e worthy (iernians seem to have urdie- sitalingly swallowed. Arriving in one of the (!(M'man towns, the name iif which T cannot now I'ccall. the editor of Truth l»oldly entered himself in the hotel regi-ter as Jlenry hahouchere. J']lect(U' of .Middlesex. T cannot say whether it was from force of histo- rical reminiscence or from extravagant admiration for the parliamentary system winch l>ismarck never doles out exce])t with a niggardly hand to tlic suhjecta 17S I.E( TniE of King Willifim, ])ut it is certain tliat tlu' title of Kloctur wiin fur Mr. Lahouchrro n ]\()-'i of littlo atten- tions, wliich tlie (,'Oi'inan innkeejiers are not in tlio liabit of wasting: upon travellers. If the J'higliHJi uive tiie title of 8i)eal<er to the [ire- sident of their lep■i^Jlative aHseiublies, tlipre is al.'^o a good reason for it. namely, that the i)re!?id(;nt of the House is at the same time tiie inleipreter with the Sovereign of the hody over which he presides. He speitks for the mendiers. He is their si)eaker. Thus. sui)pose that general elections have taken plaee. The House of ( omnions has no Speaker as yet. The members proceeil to the Senate- ( liamher to hear the opening Speech from theThi'one; hut Ili.s hxet lien cv ca uses it to he iiitimate<l to them that he does not deem it advisable to make known the causes for which lie has summoned Parliament until the Coniuions have elected a Sjicaker. Summoned again on the I'ollowing day to tlie Senate Chandier. the members troop back to it ]ii'etty mucdi in the same disorderly fashion as on the jirevious day. The newly elected Speaker alone wears an air of gravity, because lie has a epcech t(» make and nothing conduces so much to seriousness as to make a speech in those vabt halls, who^e severe architecture chills one to the marrow. Tt is now that we get the opportunity to understand why the luig- lisli, wlio are noted for their practical good sense. apply the name of Sjieaker to the president of the House of C'ouimons. He is, in fact, the speaker of those wl)o have elected him. In their name he addresses the Sovereign and his S})eech is both respectful and dig- nified. Here it is : Minj il jihuHC Your KxceUtucij : ■fhe llniisi' oi'('oiiiinnns}Kaveelpcte'' iiieas their Speaker, thougli 1 run Imt little atjlo to peifona the important ilutiea thus as.si.i:ned to me. Jf, m the perfoimance of tliose dutie.«, I should at any time tall into error, 1 i)ray that the fault may be imputed to me -J.W- I IN i'AKI.IAMKNl-AltY i.IKK 179 •iii'l not ti) ill.' ( 'nmm()i)>, wlio^eveiNuiit I miu, ami wlio, tliioiiiili iiU', tlie liettL-r to t'ii;il.!o lli"m to iliHoliiif;.'i' tlu-ir iliily to tlieir (iueeii ami couiilry, huiiiLly cLujii all tlii'ii- umlnuljtrd ri^'hts imd i»rivil«'j;<'s ; fsjiccially tliat tlicy riiny iiavt* rrte<liiiu of sfieooli ill tlicir ilehates, acoes-i to your Excellency's ](or,Non at ^11 c<'ii-oii;it)!o tiin'\'<, aiiil that their I'loiieeiliui/s may roceive hom Your Ivcrellenry th'-ir iiin.-,i favoiMlile iiiterin'ctalion. At tl>e pror<)<i;;itii>ii ol'tlic House, tlio Spouker a- gaiu ;i(l(li'o.-.se.-< tiu! reiirc-jputntivo of the Sovoreijfji.in presenliuf:; llu' Supply llill. ami tlu; t'ollowiug is Uie l.'iuguage which he usos mi ihat oceii.si <~>u : Mill/ // ji!u:sc )''iiir l-'.rci l/cifi/: TIk! Comiiioiis of (JaiiHila liavt^ vote(l the supiilics reiniiiTil to eniMo tli<j (iovenuueiit to ileliay tiie cxjiense.s of the public MM'vioe. In the name of the (Jommoii'', I present to Your Kxcol- lency a liill intituleii "'An act to grant to llcr Mnje.sty certain sums of inon(>y to ilofraj' certain expenses ol the public ser- vice ihu'iii.!: tiie liscal year coinmencinu: on the " ami to which 1 ask Your Excellency's assent. Thevoply is in thcso terms : " In Her Majesty's nitne, iris ExcelleiK'v tlie riovernor (leneral thanks lier loyal subj.'cts, accepts their benevolence anil assents to this hill." All these old ceremonies may seem ahsurd ; liut in reality thoy are not. The most of them have a deep meaning and possess histiu'ical value.recallingas they do a triimqih over ahsolutisnj and the progression to- wards that com])lete liberty now involved in our i)ar- lianientary system. Thus, when the Speid<er of tlie Commons pre- sents the Sui)p]y lUU tf) the Sovereign, he recalls the fundamental jirinciple of the jieoiile's right to govern themselves and to permit none other to tax them but themselves. It niav be urged, perhaps, that these old ceremo- ■1-2 • w m If? ^1 V if. '■> i I ISO l-ECTfRE I) ic8 are only tlio expression of ])iin('iplep< which are not (]UCaliuijf(.l liy unyojicat jireHcntancl tliat the time lias arrived to achijtt .sirni)lfr niethixlR of jiarlianion- tary i)ro('0(lui(' and more in keeping witli the modern sjiirit. I am not too sure of tliis. I am Lil)cral in i)rinciple. but Conpervative in Rentiment. T confess to tliis Avealsness. I dierii-li a respect I'or these old solemnities, wliich are not liarm- ■J'ul in themselves and which haveonly the demerit of having outlived their time. >«evertheles9. my words only apply to the Fede- ral rarliament. I have already said that, at Ottawa, these ceremonies are not without a certain grandeur. The liegislature there is numerous enough and the ])omp rich enough to impart to them a certain sjtlen- dor. r.ut, at (iu(>hec. the same ceremonies have al- Avays seemed to me very grotesque. Moreover, the leg- islative hody of twenty-four mendiers, Avhich is sup- pOi=ed to there rejircsent the House of Lords, the liou-e at Hpencer Wood, which is supposed to rejire- senl the royal castle of Windsor. and all those attempts of our iiOcal (iovernment to ape royalty apjiear to me very comical, to say the least. I am certainly far from ■wishing to belittle our I'lrislatures. Quite the eontrarv. The attributes oc; ] . of the h)cal legislatures are of the highest imjior- tance. liutat the same time their resources are small and their revenues very limited, and. fronithis stand- ])oiiit, it seems tlud the local legislatures slKUild glory rather in plebeian simplicity. To imitate royalty at Ottawa is in keeping with the litness of things ; to ajx' it at Queliec is absurd. Setting aside all political preferences and leaving out .Mr. i-etellier"s grand figure. T hold that, of all our lieutenant-governors. Sir Nareisse Jielleau was the one who came nearest to i)erfection. During the five years in which lie was called to discharge the functions of chief magistrate of tlie province. Sir Nar- eisse Jk'lleau never siiught either to pose as a king or to (biz/.le the ninnie^. lie would never consent to i 1 IJ (IN PAKMAMENTAKV I. IKK 181 re.^ido at Speu •or Woml. Ifo saiil, p'Thaps, rightly, that Siiciiciu' WoDil was too exi)en?<ivi' for the incaiH of a })i'ivale riti/.en anil lio ili:J<laiiieil to throw the vn^' of its maiutenaiice on the iState. ilo lived on St L iuif« street likca worthy hourffcoi.s of thoirood city of (>uo- hee. In the niornniii he made a tour ol'tln- ni.irhcts; in tlie evening, ho went to hreathetlic lVt;sli air mi tlie Terrace. Liko the kiiig of Yvftol, ri-iiii^ hit; .md lying ilown early, he livtid very well without gl)ry. Tii('-!e il(.'inorr;iti.; ways remind one of the g"»ver- nors of tlu! Xcw l-lnghind Sta-.es who spend the fore- noon nt the (iiivcrnmcnt ho.Ho d(!.Hpatching the puhlio hn-ino-js and tlic afternoon at their own ollice- attend- ing to their own afTairs. Sir Narcissi' romniittc 1 only oii-f mi.shike dni'ing his adminisir it ve career and that was in going to o[\en the session in a hat dciMritod wiih co Ic'.^ leathers, and a gold-hiced cout. hi'twiMMi two lih'S of policemen stationed at least thirty feet from each otln'r and supposed to ro[)ri'sent a licdgc i'or th'- pro- tection ol' his person. In my opinion, he would li.ivo heen [icrfi'i't, if on oiiening days lie had had thecourago to outton ui) his overcoat, taki' his cane in his Inind, and walk to the lUiilding^ to read to the two IIoiisos the lesson which in parliamentary language is styled the Speeidi from the Throne. r>ut Tarn .-travliig- pretty far iVom my.suhji'ct. I return to it. ine iMVcrnor has oiicm d ti ic sps~ion iiv a -^iH'ccMi ih'c~-. so to the two Houses, and they re[)ly hy an ad that there is an o.Kchange <)[ court(!-ies. 1! ore tlio dd! CSS 1.- presentc 1 to the SovfM'eign it must he adopt- ed hy each of the two Houses. Tn the Hou-cot" Commons tlie task of propn-ing and secon ling tic address is u-^ually entrusted to the younge-t nn^m Iters. I have just used the w<u'd •" s(>coiid." IFer again is a word which tain class of critics (su))i)ort.) T call t e ate tl s on me nerves oi a ''or- Knglish verl to ^1? !. They A their atti second " ant u^ t> ntion to ' cornea s t fi \v le 1 cm ■ ap[)uy-'r " ik act tha't the the French « ! 1S2 I.ECTUHK 9 ">b ■'■'i'l ".■■'(■ i, it' -«;|i ■lu ■ .h:\ ' . jf ' ili^ viM'h '' scfiiii'lfr '' nnd that tlicro assuredly cininot Ik- a licttcr triiii.-latiuii than tlic (ilyiuolngical iiit aiiiuii' nf the word tn lie translated. F would a^k tlicui lo al-n note that all those expressiouH ; addres.-^ seenndcd, S[)eech I'roiii the Throue, nmtioii, foutid tlicir way into the ]iarliani(Mi1ai'y lanuuaj^fr of !'j)ulaiid at a time when the (illicial laiiijuage nl' j'jij:lar,(l wa'^ the Freneh lauguajie and that later when the Sa.xon v;iee had ahsorhed the eonquerors aiul that l'lnj;liHh once nioru iieeame the lan5j;uaLie ol" the nation, all these cxpi'essions were literally translated from i'"rench into Kuglish. J>y a fitran;j;c fortune, whih- these ex|)re-.--ion^ liuve lost in l-'rauec their tcchnicul mcaninji: owin^ lo to the disuppearaiue of the institutions to which they ^vcre adapted, the descendants of I'rance on lliis con- tinent are destined to restore them to the lan<2;ua,ue. In l'a,et. is it not a lahor of love to revive these old expressions as they were conveyed from Franc e to l'>n,i:laiul hy the Normans? The moving and .secoudiu';' of the adilress \b an honor alike desired and feared. Indeed, there are few more ungrateful tasks. The speaker has to com- ment on the Speech from the Thr()ne, wliieh is hi.s text, so to say, and it would l)e dilhcult to find one more dry or harren — it heing one of the usages of Par- liament to place in His Kxcelleirt'v's nnuith a tissue of commonplaces dressed up in the dullest style imaginahle. His Excellency is hap[)y to meet again the memhers of the Senate and tlie Commons ; lu^ thanks Providence for the hountiful harvest with ■which the country has l)een l)le?Red ; the Ministerial policy is yielding satisfactory results ; hills -will he suhmitted for this or that purpose ; the ])ul)lic accounts will he laid l)efore the Comnu)ns. and lastly His Ex- cellency invokes the blessings of Heaven onthelahors of his Parliament. The drafting of tliis masterpiece is always a subject of joking at the founeil board, and -when the Premier lays before liis colleagues the draft lie has elaborated, they are always in humorous vein ON rAKI.IA.MKNTAKV IIIK 183 jiiiil it is ii coiitc«l lictwcpn tlifin to sec wIid will iu:iko the lUDrft l;iiiji;liiil)!c roiiiarlc . The uiihicky youiij^ luiiii, to wlioin this lUitliiic ifl hjinile(h (IncH hul loel <|uitt' 3(t much plciisuvf iiinl fles- pairiiij^ly asks hiiiHolf what he can (iml tn say i>n ^JU^•h ii t<uhjc(.-t. lie (Mil. hdWcviT. always (mhuiI U|iiiii an iiulul- geiit audifiK'i!. Till! 'lid I'arliaiiiciitariaiiH liatiirally locjk I'l)!' stuui' ranihrmj^ on liin part and somi' soarini; from tlif caidi into ili(> clouds, and smile a little in advance at tln-t' aiiiMlious lli^dils; hut. if Iho suh- stanco of his remarks liesensildo and if he eschew the |iom[)ous and Iho trivial, he wins a le;^ilimate succes.'^ and i.- sincerely iipphuulod. [s it now till! turn of tlie Opposition header to speak — hiH task heinu' to review the (lovernmeiif.s po- licy as set forth in tlie Speech from the Throne. lie inviiriahly lic^iins In' complimentinii the movers of the acUlre.ss. Thi.si.s sometimes ditlicult. a? the mover.s are not always successful. F have always, liowever. adndred this (lelicate portion ol' the Oppo- sition leader's ppeech, whetluu' the speaker wan Sir John, Mr. .Micken/.ie or .Mr. Uhikc.each m" theni seem- in^' to know how to award delicate [)raise without fallin!:i; into improper flattery. On ordinary (uicasions. tlie 0[)poHition leader's tone is one ol' lianter. Ife does not ^.^ive iiattle. hut merely contents himself with harassing the enemy and atFecting to he a good fellow ; he lays hare the (iovernment's weak ])oints, hut <loes so without hit- teniess, seemin.i;- to say to the majority : liook at the Government you are supporting ; see it as it is and make t!u! most of it ; there is plenty room ti> do so. His own HUi)j)orter3 are juhilant; they laugh and applaud and every fresh shaft tickles and cheers tln-m. On the other iiand, the Ministerialists hegin hy smil- ing, hut end l)y thinking that they are getting too mucdi of that sort of thing. At last, the Premier's turn comes and he replies in the same tone. Tho laughter and fun are now on ; ( n 181 I.KCTL'UL t lie Miiii^tciiiil side. Still, on liolli side-', thf w cii- jjiius (III tliiit (hiy arc l>luiit,uiil('Sfl, indctMl, ihr njipd- .sitinii N'adcr dci'iiis the (iccasioii uppnrt uin' in nllc ■ an aiiiciidiiicnt. Ill that case, the vnicrs licciinic -liMrp and llic \\<'ii|-(UiH lire cuttiii,!;'. At (Mtawa, since ( '(iiilcdcratinu, tliMc |ias liccn nniy ore anicndincnl |ii'ii|Miscd to tlio address anil lliat washy Mr. Mackenzie in ls7:;i,.hi" tivc to tile I'aciiic .-•caudal, wlicn tlu' I'all mjiIk. ( .ov- crnnicnl (Mi.sncd. 1 liavpjnr^t rd'ciTod tn llu' manner in wliicli tiu> leaders of the two parties arc ;;reetcd. Aiuoiil' tlio many i(ualilies which render them si; ajit in parlia- mentary Lnivernment. the hlni^li.^h posse.>^H ont> ot" rare merit I'or the ni>i>li<'!vtion of that lonii ol' p;ovcrnmi nt. Tliey know how to li-ten and to lie tolerant. It i- not in the ardent toin[>(ranient ol'lhe l'"rcnch to re-; eet tliu convictinn.s of other". What the Krenchnnin < on- coive.s, he conctnveH with -jo mucii intensity that iio cannot admit the po.-)'^ihili(y of others thinking differ- eiitly iVom him. TluH i:^ not the ease with the Knjxii-jhinan. Ho has his own convictions, hut ho is neither astoni-hed nor irritated hccause you dillVr iVom him. (>uthe contrary, ho is pi'nparctl for this eventuality and expects that the (liversity oj' opinions will he as ;4iea,t as the diversity of intoUeiHa and ol" faces, ifo wouhl. cordially despise yon if In^ tliou'^ht you IkhI no opinions of your own. Tn fact while the I'^renchman wants you t'l have his opiiiions. the |-]n!j;li-ih';;au wants you to have opinions of yovir ov, n. .'^ee wliat happ.ens in tiie Icuislalive liody in I'aris ! There is an or.atoi' in the trihuiif I His advor- ■^aries cannot kec[) iiuiet. Kroni all jMiints of tlio Cliaiidici'.'irise iiilefriiptior..=^ and protests and l're(iUf-nt- ly the conl'n.-ion hecoines so great that the pi'e-i i-nt caniinl contnd it. I.o(d< on the other hand at (Uir irouseof Coni- nuuis ! It supports the most furious attack.s without ■wincing and no one drcam.s of" interrupting, unless 1 ON P.MII IWIKNTAIIV I.IFK 185 till' iiriitnr |M'niiits iiitcrrtiiiliriii. Nrvfrllu'lcs-". tlui iithirk is l<<'('ii. \iul(Mit Mini nftcii liitlri'. Tlif niMliir'rt t'rinnds iippliiuil ; liis ailverH!iri(M <l(i not hiul^ic ; wliini tlioy Iiclicvc tlijit the attiicU i-i lair wiui'art' and that, iVoiri liis staiiilpi»iiit. Iif is riL:'lit. tlmv ciulurf without wiiK'iii;:; hut if lit- <'.\air^'»'ratcH thny oiiiplia'jizc tho Hxa^'^rtjrati'Mi liy irnnit'iil ajii'lausc. Tf lie lalis into nii.-!st!it(MUHnt. the t'aciv-t w\i\\ as there is luitiiiu!/ to tear, and if, ha-itly. he fjrtpw,-* paradnxical. lie receives every latitu<h' and the; llou-'e iistciH with tiie I'eelin^ wliich th<' Kiijilisli t'iiara,(.'torize as "■ ainu.^fMl unndcr- ineiil This is wlial hapiK'n-" at ( » I law W here t he 1 i(>U.J(> is in ^'rent part i'!ii}j;lish. hut jho in part l''ien<li. Still even in tlif I fnuse ul" ( 'onnnons. we l-'reneh Can^nlians d'l ni)t know imw to hear enntradiclinn lilsftour rejlnw citi/ens .pf liritish ori^Mn. l!ut. alter all. we are in this respect suporinr to our ('(jusins across tli(! sea. We can listen to an adver- sary and sit still. hut wccannot li^ten to idni with com- plete coolness. We can iicc;i-;ionally. hnt rarely, ac know led 'ie his talents lull we call never reiulei' justice to his tliesis. Accordiii;;- as ho sp(>ak-!< in invor or aL'ainst our opinion. Iiis u1 terances are ahsuril or .suhiinie. Tiie I'aiL;lisli arc more solier in oxjires^ion. When we have heard one of Mr. I'lake's spccciies. we uivo vent to our cnthusiasin in metaphors ; luit the ^voi\t orator's warmest ad miicrs am oii;^ his own countrymen conreut themselvcH with saying : "■ that was a liicat spcccli of JUa kc's. On the other hand, if an adversai'y has made ii .successful hit. instead of sjiyiiiu- that his -^tatemeuts were ahsurd, they simply say: "• tli;it was well put tVom his standpoint . "' Tf the French were filled with this frankness of expi'-^sion and tolerance of opiiiion, the courte-^y of their discus-ions would bcmaiked. It i- not so with tlie Kniili.sh. Their discussions nre never vuh.^ar, hut on the other haml thev are iH'Ver ;.M'acious and alwavs ^1 fl 1.. J.' ^w*— »■.«— J^ : I I a n ?i III 18G lkcu're lack that uri)ainty wliioli respects ydur I'reliug^ as your life. The Englishman rcspocts your opinions ; but lie novt'i' thinks of your i'e('lin<>rt. The capital point on uiiich wo ditri.'r IVkui our iolhiw citizens of British origin is our idea ol' politics. For us. sons ol' Franco, jjolitical ."ontiinont is a. ])<ission : while, I'ur the Knglishmen, ])i)litii;s are a (]Uestion of liusiness. The only thought (jf the luiglisii nienihers in going to Ottawa is that they are calledithcre to discuss ami deride the aifdrs of the country, just as the share- h.olders of a hank are called to tliscuss and decide the affairs of the hank. [ say the affairs of the (;nuntry, and T purposely xisc this unusual expression in our language. M'hen I pay the affairs. I use the word in its restricted sense, as the ecjuivalent of the word '' husine-;s ". According to the English notion, the affairs of the ci>ui:itry. like those of a private individual, com- prise the revenue, expenditure and all the cognate ([Uestions ; and it is needless to remind my hearers that these (juestions of revenue and exi)enditure fill the largest ])lace in our Federal politics. We, of French origin, understand politics (juite otherwise. Tariff ancl revenue (luestions are i\ot our chief preoccupation. Wo rather "ncline towanls the speculative and have a fondness for theories. thet Now look at the different results in the ca ;e of wo races Tal ke an oi dinarv man in anv rank Avhatever of English society ! He knows the figure of the [luhlic ex[)onditure, and of the receipts; he can toll you the yield of the customs and excise, and he is conversant with every item of the tariff. Now, how many are there among us, even among those who shout loud< -t at election time, who have taken the slightest trouble to post themselves on these heads? We know, however.that they are thoroughly acijuainted with all the discussions on the school uestion, on the relative value of the different forms ■ ♦ ON rArtr.IA.MKNTAKY I.TfE 1n7 ol" irovernincnt, nn tlie theories of diviiK; ri^lit. on the imiuu of Chuicli uiid r tiite, iuul on ;i hoht of other al)Ptract question?, wliicli liiivc no ai)]»lioation to our polities and wliicli have never hccn discus.'rcd in any ol'iinr legislative assemblies. Tiie lIou^;e of Conunons is, ahove nil. a niectinn- of luK-iiiess men anii hiisiness (luestiom^ arc thejc treated. At least, thi'ee fourths of tiie ])roceedinL;s are carrieil on hy means of eonver.''ations exehauLied aeross the floor of the IIou.se, without ]irei?aration. and without effort of elociuence. 'I'lie strangers, who come to the ciipilal to hcur the (U'hates, are usually di-apiJointed. They (^xinct to hear great eloiiuence ; thoy simply hear husinos.s diseu:--iions. Xevertheless. some of these discussions are really eloiiucnt. For instance, a Ministerial (|ue«tion of great importance is to Ijo treated. Sir Charles Tupper i?' to exjihiin the (.!ov(^rnment's jjoliey. lie will he followed by 3[r. ]>hike and tlu^ light ' "'l then become general. Uucon.«ciously,the House take., on a particular physi- ognomy. Every mend>er is at his post. Tliere is not a vacant seat. The galleries are full and. on every fact', -lits a look of exi)ectation. The debate i.s opened liy two master speeches, as diametiicall}' different from each other as are the orators themselves and yet visibly of the same school and of a unique style of ehujuence. This style of elo([uence is what we tci'iii Kngli:^h p)arlianientary elo(iuence. What we, of French race and (>ducatioi aiiiirc' ic ciate and enjoy the most is that nervous, magnet elonuence wiiieh stirs the soul and brings a choking sensation to the throat and water to the eyes. or. again that acadennc eloijucnce, pure in language and elegant in diction, which tills the ear with a music that tends more to charm than to convince. French eloquence is above all a'sthetic. English elo'iuence is above all practical. The great aim of the English orator is to go w w i IS'ft LE(.:TURE f<1rai,::;lit to tlie ))oiiit. He lias a proposition to uplMjld anil iio piles up arguments, iit;uro«, comparisons, ipiotations, everything, in tine, that i-< cah'ulated to l)oh-ter it U]). ile ihxis not nock to jilease. liut it' lie sueeeeils in da/.xling your reas'oiijn inundating it with a Hood ol' light, and rendering luminous what was oliscure, he has won the success he coveted. This ehxpienct! is not soul-.stirring and posse^-.'^es none of tho^e oratorical movements which strike the hearer like an electric shock ; hut wln-n an orator like Mr IMake carries you on with him into the iniel'er- tual realm-i, lit'ts you to iuat'cessible heights, and un- folds to your eyes lu'w horizons, whirh ;ire immediat- ely replaced hy otlu'r-* still higher, emotiim slowly, grailually crce|)s u|)on you. take^ pos-fcssioii ol' you and linally suhj agates you altogether. My heai-ers may, [K'rhaps, he curious to h.arn oiiK'linug ol' the lead mir orators of the IIousi^ I have just mencioned the name uf Mr Ulake. The leader of the ()[)position is heyond 4uestion the foremost orator of the House. His ehxpience horrows nothing from tlie ordinary means of the oratoi ; it emanates entirely t'rom a single source: intellectual force. My. Jdake has without douht one oi' the most extraordinary mental organizations that are to ho found a.t present in tlie world. IFis [lowerful int<dli- n'a~p covers the w lole OUlllll-H Ol gence takes in everything;. Ifi a,s well as the iletails. .Ml ti vastest polil ical prohlom aro peri'i\'tly o'ear to him; not oui'oi'ihii mii'roscoinc points oi" thn mostdillh alt oro )le!n escapes inn W len he tre.it- aaul'iect he exhaast- it ; when he leaver it. there is nothing mu'i to he said tU' even to re aau win u at length he r-'sumes his seat, his [)arti-ians are jahilant and even liis adversaries cannot help expr (js.siUi leir dmira'.ion. Sir .Tolin .Macdonald's style is (luiteditrerent. Singu- lar til say. in the case of so alert a mind, he lacks hap- piness and movement of expression. He hesitate.^, stammers and repeats liimself, he is incorrect, hut. ox PARLIAMENTAltY LIKE isr> in all Ills speeches, there is always a nail that goes straij^ht home, lie excels in seiziufi ujxtn an advcr- saryV weak i)i)iiit. Ilis hi<;hest art, however, ciiiisist? in sayinfj; exactly what shouhl he faiil to produce the mo'^t eftect on his own su[)porters. He know:- all their weaknesses and their prejudices iind all he sa.ys is jicrfectly ada]tted to them. t^ir Charles Tupper's chierchariicteristicf are force and. ahove all, audacity, lie is the Danton ot'the ]Iouse. lie speaks with all the almndaiice, veliemence and rush of the torrent. The more desperate is the cause he has to del'end. the jrreater is Ids audacity. lie asserts the most untenable propositions with a c>)oln(jss and an imperturh.'diility which no question, no interru)ition. can discounienancc. Far from that. if an intcrru[»ti()n to the point demolishes on the sjxtt an over risky assertion, instead of heating a retreat even to the extent of a hair's-!»readth, he invariably exclaims : " I am thankful i'or the interruiition, as it proves exactly wliat T have j'lst sidd.'' And ihon he goes on to repeat all he has already said, with redoubled energy, argument and vigor. .Mr. Macken/,ie''s voice is. un]iap])ily. no longer lieard. This is an immense loss for tl.'e I'ountry and an irreparal)le one fur the Libei'al party. Mr. Mac- kenzie had all the force of Sir Charles Tujtper, with- out his lire; but. for that reason, his eloquence was. perhaps, not less efTective. Tn all liis words, there ^\•as a concentrated power whicii went to tlie very mar- row. iiCt us pray that tlds valiant nnnd. this Idame- less character, may soon lie restored to jiealth and resume the leading position whicli he has filled and whi'li ])elongs to him of right in his country's legis- lature. There is no man less known than Mr. Mac- kenzie and there has been n(ni(> more slandered. \\'iiile in ])o\ver he was systematically represented as a fanatic and as a man with narrow and intolerant vieW'!. .N'othing could be falser. .Mr. .Mackenzie is a Lilieral with the greatest breadth of ideas. T believe that, while Im was Premier, lie was somewhat em- li !■■; It h !'i n I; S-) I ! I ! 1!MI l.Kt TIKK bittoi'od liy tli(! sy.stoiiuitically unfair '.ittiu/ks of which iii^ was the victim and hy liis ■:u[im'hu(uaii and ,selt'-inji>()sed hdnn's. hut 1 can state iVoni a ixii'soual knowledge ('xtt'ndin^• over a niunher of years that there ai'ti lew men easier and more agreeahU; to (h.'al or iisHoeiate witli. The sava^ic man. as lie was repre- sented to the puhlic. is on the contrary lull ot" humor and always ha-< a, laimhin;;- Wc)rd on his li[)S. Lik(( Air. .Mackenzie, S^ir Ilichard Cartwi'i<;-;it is a man whom tlu' tongue of slander has represented un- der false colors. ln])rivate life, Sir Richard is one of the most acroniplished ^-entlemen it is [lossi- hle to meet, atrabk% polite and distinguished l)y a regular Attic grace. As may be imagined, however, hi-i adversaries do not like him. His tongue is the most fornndahlein the whole House. On the other hand his elocjuence is. perhaps, the most classic, iii.s language is always correct. precise, clear.and eloquent, but at the same time biting and cutting. I said a moment ago that the English know how to listen without wincing. 1)ut it is nevertheless not rare to .see tlie i5ritish phlegm unable to resist r^ir Ilichard Cart- wright's attacks and f have often seen his adversa- ries writhing with anger under his elegant lash. Is it not generaly known that Sir ilichard ("art- wright is a lettered man. Indeed he is not only a lettered man, but a literary dilettante. During the long sitting.^ (jf the House, when the debate does not interest Sir Richard, a messenger l>rings him a select volume from the library, aud then, with his hat down over his eyes, lie becomes absorbed in its perusal and as indifterent to what is going on around him as if he was in his own study. Mr. Rlake is also a lettered man ; in fact, he may be said to be even a glutton in the matter of litera- ture. Notwithstanding the herculean work he under- takes during the session, he keeps himself reg- ularly posted in current literature and reads cAcry- tliiiig tliat is published. Said one of the ollicials of tli(,' lilirai'v til nic hist session: — "Mr. I'.lak(' i.-^ an oiiiiiivdi'ous r(?a'lcr; we f!Oii(l him tn'crything that comes in. " — '" Tell me " — I said to liini — "■ w hero does he lind the lime to read?" — '* It is a. mystery, ^ir, hut he read.- I'verythhiji'. What T have thus hir Rlated has sliown ynu that, iiltliou.irh tlieie are ahout til'ty French mendiers in tiie House of Commons, it is exclusively an JMiglisli assemhly. French is its ollieiai lanjiuajie as well as iLUglish, l)ut Frencli is hein<i- less and less spoken in it. The reason tor this is that it is imiiossihle to take an eiVective part in the dehates unless 3'ou use the laniiuage ol'tlie majority. This fact was only hdely thrown u}) to me h}' a man of great talent, great sense and ardent patriotism, hut I do not admit the re])roacli. Things must he taken as they are. Our parliamentary laws, usages, and customs come to us from P^ngland. Moreover, the JOnglish are hetter adapted than we are for tliat system of government. In no matter what deliherative assend)ly tliey may find themselves, they are more at home than are the French, and, wluM-e ihey are in the majority, their language must necessarily prevail. On the other hand we. of French origin, are ess en- tially an artistic iieojile. and if I had an advice to give to my fellow countrymen, it would he to remain true to their origin and to cultivate that taste for the arts and letters which we inherit from France and in which we ought to take on this continent the place filled hy France in l'"urope. The h)rce of circumstances is such that in Ame- rica the Knglish tongue will always he the language of the million and our andjition should he to make French, here as elsewhere, the language of predilec- tion, good company and polite s.ociety. mi m iii : 1 5' i i !■ If Aiicilisr Question of Provincial Aiitoiioiiiy UMTY OF THE FRAXCITTSE TIJROUGII- OlT THE DOM J XI UN VKiOROrs STIiriidLE OF THE OPPOSITTOX ACAINST CENTRA LTZATIOX Mil. lauuier's plea against this encuoachment f^ Tlie !-essinn of the Federal P.uliainent, in 1SS5 lasted six months. < )iiened on the L'^tli .lanuary, it was only prorogued on the liiith -Inly — its unusual i>rolonj;ation being mainly due to the Franchise P.ill. The Opposition disputed the groimd inch by inch and only yiejdeil in the en<l to the numerical strength of their opponents. Theii' ohjections will be found summed up with exti'aordinary fcrce in the following speech made by Mr.Laurier at the sitting of the 17th April, 1SS5 : Mii. Speaker, During tho tliscus-sion yesterday, the tact was brou<rht several times to tlie memory of tlie House that this is not tlio first time the honora])]e irentlemaii lias endeavored to force this measure upon tlie ))fM)|)le of this country. In fact, during the nearly eighteen years that this Confederation has lasted, the lionoraMe gentleman has nuide seven attempts to establish a uniform franchise throu^rhout the Dominion, but each time he has been forced to abandon the attempt. 13 Jt r.ji ■f.m. •I'EKCII IP lnoutrlit in :i l>ill ni tins luituri', iiiiil has ciilicr witlidiaw u it. nr liccn (ililiu;ed t<j let it (li'iip a;t('i' carrvin.u; it to ii ((rtain sla^c Now it iiiuy lie askc^l, wliat is tlic reason that lie has mad*- these numerous ami persistent iitteTii|its to force this t hi'J measure U|i(ui the countrv I'h Tl le reason is piui itl tliH — that the rij;ht lionorahle ucntleman lui^ s( hi'ai't upon this niea-ure which, heing one of centra- lization, and anlaL-'onistic to the federal iirineiple of <>nr constitution, is (|uitc congenial to his well known })rin('i|ile.s. Jiul while he has endeavor(Ml to push his followers (Uiward. they have each time faileil to lui^s it fur the reason that their hearts were not in tlie «au-('. I'uhlic opinion never res[)onded to calls that Averc made upon this mea.^ure. though he stated that ])uMic opini u is ripe for it. Sir. if puldif opiiuon is rijic !'or it. WnKIJK .\I!K IIIK KN'lliK.Nci:.- oF ]T ? Vuldie opinion ,i;encrally manifests it-elf citht-r hv petition- at the liar ofthi-ilou>e. or hy rcsojution.-i of pulilic lui'et ini:.-. or through the press. Now, where •AYC the petitions that have heen pre-cnted in favor of it '.' iv.t one ha-i lieen presented thi.s session that T jini aware ot'. Where Inive puldio meetings hcen held in favor of ;i h.mnnion Iranchise? T dvl'v the honora- ble gentlemen to piiint out one instance where any ^luMie nu'etii.g has passed a re.sidution io find etfect. As to the pres-, while T cannot speaf: as to the other pro ••■!ii(-,. so lar a-* my own provinci' is concerned, far Irom o.xpre-'sing it-elf in favor ol' a Dominion I'ranchisc.such a scheme has licen denounced as ini- mical to our institutions— not mdy hy the Opposition pre-s. h ut hv the -Ministerial in'c-^s its( The fact is that, ever .since Confederation, we have had !i pr OV' incial franchi.se upon which the niemhers of this Ifou.sehave heen elected, and T am, not aware that any complaint ha.s ever lieen made against that arrangement. The steady conviction of the ]KM)ple i'« A(;A1.\ST 'I'llK l'i;ANriil,-.E AiT 195 ■^eeius ti) liiivc lipcii. on tlic cnntriiry. that tlii~ |)i'ii- viiicial tv!iiic!iis(! was tliflu'it .^uiti-d to mir iii^tilu- timi-. am! uiidci' all circuiii.-taiuc,-) \va> lif.-t adapted to the cliaraftcr tit'i'Ur iicdjilc. T liavf .'•aid tliat this iin-asurc \a now iiiti'ndiucd Inr th(^ seventh tiine into tlii,> niiu*i', hut it has heen niscCSSKO I'.MA' UNCI" — in 1^7(1. At that time it wa.s discussed at some leiititli. TliP liill was carried to its ^■eeond readin'j-, and talcen into Committee of the W'iioh'. lUit the discussion was -omewliat desultory ; most (•I'the memlKTs who spoke upon it did not seem to see their way very clearly. They did not seem to have made uji their minds as to what necessity there was tor it. .\t that tinu' Coulederation was (luite recent and (he relative Mil ilU."^ U'^ I" \» ilill HIM. I'.-.- II > 1 1 lui I- \\ iir; I 1 '1 11. ,\ I I Hill tinu' Coulederation was ijuite recent and the relative functions o|' the houiinion Tarliami nt and the I'ldv- incial Le,L'is-l;>tnres wi're not as c!earl\' understood as they are to-day : and conse.|uently tiie ireneral dis- cus-ion was somtwhat de-ultory. lUit when the n!easui(> was in Committee of tin Whole, Mi', horiou > ! 5 1 !«■ i;k; SPEECH Now, Avhut iU'O the reuson-i Inv tliin cliiuige ? We sliouUl liiivo had some t'Xi)liiiiiitions on these points, liut tlif (iovorntnoin have IdK-n inM-fcctly dnnili. T'[)to tlio pi'(;.S(.'nt (lay cadi province liaa liad ITS OWN KUANCHI.SK. Quclioc lias had its own tVanchiso, and a vory lihoral I'rnnthisc it has boon — not nniversal, hnt with very lar.L'e limits, indeed. Ontario has had her franchise, still nmre liberal. T think, than that of Qnebec. Prince Edward Island has had a universal franchise. Kaeli (if the ineniliers now present in this House has l>een elected upon the ])articular franchise of the provincf^ from which he comes. And has any complaint ever been made either in this House, or in any other [lart of the Dominion, tluit an injustice is bein^- done ajrainst the provinces, or against the people of any province; by the present franchise? I am not aware that any comi)laint has been made ; if this system has worked well and satisfactorily, I ask why is this measure introduced? M'e, Sir, on this side of the House, are reformers. We do not believe in tlie immutability of human institutions: we believe in their perfectibility ; but at the same time we would not alter any existing institutions unless some good was to be efTected by it, unless some ill was to be remedied, liut it seems that gentlemen of the Con- servative persuasion — at least in this House — are of a different (tiiinion. I gathered yesterday from a remark nnide by the honorable member for N'orth Perth (Mr, Hesson) that the Conservative party in this House ■were ready to vote this measure without the slightest hesitation.! should supi)ose that a good Conservative, a strong Tory, would not like to alter existing in- stitutions unless some reasons were given for the change. P>ut the honorable gentleman said that they were waiting for the members of the Opposition to state their objections to the measure. It seems to me that it would have been more proper, first of all, ■mi AOAI.NsT TllK 1 1;A.\( lll.-K A< T r.»T I'll)' llic ( iov<'i'miicnt III li!>vc uivcn some roasnn why the exi.stinjj stiito of tliinj^s slmuld l)e cliiui^^cil. llnl it set'tiis tlijit hiinor.'ililc Lri'iitlciucii opipoyito arc ready to vntc for tills iiicasnrc witlniut a.-fkint;' any (luc-tutn*, even lit'l'urc the Lihfial lucmhers liavf raised any ohjecliou 1(1 it ; imd I really helieve they will he .■^tiil mme ready tn vote I'or it. even alter unanswerahle ohjections have heen made aL'ainst it. •rilK iiM.v i;ka-(i.\ Avhieh has lieen advanced hy the i'ij:ht honorahle ji'entleman in introdiicinj^ thi» lueasiire in favor of a Donnnioii iVanehisc — ii' it he a reason at all - was that our jU'csent franchise was an anomaly, that we ought to have u uniformity of franchise all over the Dumi- inon. Well. I d<i not admit that it is an anomaly i'or each provinee to have its own franchise. Ihit .«u|>i)os- ing it to he so, I should not suppose that the hon^lr- uhie gentlemen would have heen so tendt'r-heurte<l ii])on that score, hecause T ))elieve, and ]>erliap3 he ■will adnnt himself, that in the course of his long ])oli- ticiil career he has l)een guilty of many sins of anom- uly. Let me refer him to one glaring instance. I'n(h'r our constitution we hav(> a separation of powers. The local legislatures are ])roporly entru^tctl with the eatablisliment of courts of justice, and they are also to deternnnethe numhcr of judges of which the courts are to he c(unposed, and very projierly should, liut the judges are to he paid hy the Donnnion Parliament, and this Parliament has no control at all over the estaldishmcnt of tlie courts which it has to pay for. or over the number of the judges for whose salaries it has to provide. Can there he A WOHSK ANO.MAI.V TITAN THIS? Can there be a more glaring lack of uniformity ? The provincial legislatures establish the courts. It is in their power to appoint one. or two, or three, I ?a A \i\ 11)8 sr'KKcil (ir lour, nr tt'ii jiiiljioa, anil this nuiisc lias n<» coiitiii 1 uviT tlifiii, tlmui^li we lire uMiLifil I" pay lliiMu imnif- ic |uc;i| lci;-l-| (liatoly ultor tlioy ai<' aiiiinintn] I.y t tur<'-'. Can IIhtc Im' a ^.Tcalcr ammialy / ^'(•t the lather of this aii'Mnaly is tlic riuh; huiniralilo tit-nt h'maii liinisclf. Whv "did lie dn il ? i do n^-t Maiiir tlie ri^dit iiiiiimahic ucnl h'nian lnr iiavinn' dmic i I. I'er liaps il i-i riyhl tliat he sii<)\iM iiavc done it. ri'ihajis tlic ri^dil lionitraidf' L:i'nt Iciuan rtnirndMird at tho tiuM' liic laniinauc <<\' lUirkc. wliich is 1 > thi- ctrcct ; < Mivi'iiiiiii'iit \t.i-< Ih'cii ilriMiii'il :i jii'Mclical tliiii.L'. iUii'l>' i'ov till' liu|i|niirss of iiiiinkinil. nij I in'i to tin iii-li a spi'i tiir].' of uiiirnnuil V ti) jii -li!\' I 111"' scliniu' III' \-i-ii)ii;i!'v politician-. I'crha ps thi' h'Uiiv|';il.lc Li,"<'nl Icnian well I'lant-Mi- lii'i'cil liial sentence when lie ei'eated the anomaly wliicli itands t(i-(hiy ill nnr cniistit ntimi. lint if hn Veiiieinhered it tiien. w hy due-* he nut I'l'meMdiia' it niiw 7 ir the i)i'aitical n('ce-i<ities in' the '.iiivernni'^nt demand such an anomalv a-' tliat to whicli \ liavo )n = t relerrei 1. is it incoiisi-teiil lliat th e annmalv coniphinied nj should still e\i-t m the workinu' nl tiic ('(in-iitutiiiii That is tlie iinlv reason wiiicli has heen ^iven I'oi' instituting tlie cliaiiL'e wliich it is no\ "•iiU'iJit to introduce Tl le coii-titniii'ii i- not unilii) i, and we caiiii it liave unil'oiinity. rmliMilitedly ir would lie far prel'eralile if we coll Id have a unilorm iVaiKdiise. 1 I'on-ititulion. )Ut unilormiU- is not m the suirit lUV W p have divei'.-il V o| lranelii<e a-* we have diversity ol'^overiiment. There can henodnuht, I sujipose. and every one will aii'ice to thi-^ view, tin't tlie lii'st Iraiichise that couhl he adopted, the mo-t rational and the most lou'ical. would lie one oased upon taxation, would lie one to make evcrv ta.Knave;- a Voter hit such ;i iVanchisc lia> lU'Ver heen adopte and will never he adopted, it would lead to coi;<e- (juences whicli would defeat the ohjei't of the iVau- clii-e. If we were to follow it to its lejj;itiniate consi- <iuences we would have to give thV' riirht of votim.:- to women, married and unmarried, to niinor.s and all i ui I A'.AIN.'K TIIK lit ANi ;il>i: A( r :»!► iillifi |mt-iuii-; w ho uoul'l otlicrwHc li" dpprivcil of llicii' civil riulit"!. 1 II flirt. Nil I'I;aN( iii>K w \^ K\i;i; Aii>i'ri;i> nil ;i ini'i'c ;ili-(r;ii't liriiwiplc. Tin> iV.i iidii-i' li;i-i liceii iMln[iteil fver V wlicrt' !i''i'iir(liiiif in tlir (•ircuiiHlMiices 111' ilic (Mimiiiuuity ivIkm'i' it w.i-' ii ji|ili''i|, nci'nr.iiiri to the U(';iltli. Ill' iiiti'liii'i'iico. Of ;'iH.-! niH, ir |iri'iuiii('('i» ttl' the (•(MiiiiiMiiity. Tlii.-< l)i!l is ;iii in-tniiec of it. \'i>u t;iki' til'' l)i!l hcfiiri' the llmHr nud it !-• imiid-i.viililc tt» liiiil ;iny principle upnn wliicli tljc iViini'liisi' Ims 1'P(!n ilirUril'Utc.l : llicre is iioiir. I <|.) unt IpImiim' tin' Mil In)' it ; [ Ix'lirvo it 'aouM iidI Ik- piw.-ili|i' !n lie ntlicr- \vi>ir Till' rijlil liiiiinralili' iieiitl(Mii;iii in lV;iMiiiiu t lie i)ill li:is jiivcn tin' iVancliise tn unnnirricd women. .iiul imt Id iniirrieil women. He 1i;h ^'iven the lV;inelii,flc << Kirnii'i' t ti-'an- <i)\\' <'inil not |o till.' -dlH II ar- IKH riven the iVaneliise t wild are owners o f re;il ^tato i d ;iiei» IVt' n nival iiivts Id the valu" of one hiimlreil ami li 'y ilnliar!?, iiiul lefii-eil it td ili()ve who lire owner.-i > real e-'atf> to tiie value ofonlv ><l(l!l.()(). Ill eitiea, ||0 j/ives it to iWlU.'l'ri onlv to the extent <il s ;ii i.nn. \Vli;it i^ th rea-^o\i III all th I'Se illlI'M Wlllril nnilerlie.-i this liill '.' Tlid'e i- enei'- ; wlnit is the priieiplf Odiie T le hi'uor- alilc n'ontleman has iVav.n'd a iVaneiii-e which ho tlionL;ht lie-t aihi]»t"d to tin' eireumstam'e-i of the eomnuniity. This would hi' well and riu'hl. and thpre would he U) lault Id liiid wil h the hill, if tlii< w;- a sini.de eiiiniiiunily Ihr tliis is the ])dint. ■iml it is liie oltie.'tion Id Ihi-i hill : we Ji;i\-e out a -iii'i'e cdiu- munitv in tois eount rv W e liave -I'Vcn il flrrent CdOl inuniiie-:. and wdiat tin' lidiioi';i 'ih' meiiiher inr North- Norfolk ( .Mr. Charlton) said, ve-ti rdav. that we hav(> seven independent eommonwealtlM in thi'* country i-^ a nnlli winch canudt he deinel. T!ii- is th(- mistake in thi-^ hill; it treat- tin- cdunti'v a- a single cdmuiunity. ami in the plan we lind the well known predilection of the right honoralde li'ont lemati 2U0 .-PEIXII P : *■ Il- ia I'aviiv of ;i lc<;;islalive union. He ddoa not lubnit that it is right to have seven .sei)aiate connnunitit'S. ilis opinion is th;it it would he risrlit to have hut one foiuinunity. and aclinji oil tliat view lie lias devised the I'ranehi.se whieli is lii'st iidajited to suit the con- veniences of a sinjile coniniunity. Well. T start on this prineijile. and it is oin; which I coninu'iid espe- cially to my colleiigues from the province ot' (iuehec, which is supposed to he more in I'avor oC the federa- tive principle than the other pruvince.-? ; that we have in this countrv SKVKN nii-Fi;i!ic.N r ( ommim TIKs. This is a et which exists in the I'aee of the law. It nia_\ he wise or unwise, aceordinji- to the ))refer- oneos and predilections of evi'ry one. l)ut this is the 1)asis of our constitution. Our constitution is hascd upon diversity— diversity is the hasis of (Uir constitu- tion. Tf we had uniformity of territoiy. of population, of institutions, perhaps we would have had a uniform franchise. lUit our constitution reeo.gni/es the ditfer- ences of ])opulalion and ot' territory, and. as a eonse- «[Uence. [ claim, we should also recogni/e those ditrer- ences when we prepare a franchise for the whole Do- minion. Tfit he true that this Dominion is composed of seven different eonnnunities, it must I'ollow as a logical conse(iuence that the right to deternnne the franchise is to he left to each separate community. That seems to follow as a logical consequiMice. What Avill suit one community will not suit another com- munity. What will suit Prince Edward Island. Un' instance, will not suit Quehec. In Prince Edward Island tliey have had universal suffrage for a long time, and, as was gracefully rennirked hy thememher i\ir Ottawa county (.Mr Wright), this franchise has worked well. I helieve the memhers from the prov- ince of Quehec will adnut that universal suffrage would not he suitahle to the majority of the jieople of our province. Then why not leave the regulation of the %v ■1 fii _ !■■ A(..\L\<T TllK 11{AX(I1ISK Ai T 2(.. 1 I'raricliiso to tlic iiroviiHc of (iiu-licr. if they iiiclc'ia i'l'iuicliiso ol' their own ; iiiul wliy not leave it tu tho ]iroviiic(' of I'l'incp Kdward Tslaiul. if tlicy incfer a iVancliise i>\' tlicir <i\\ ii ? 'J'ln' pcoiilc of (iuclicc woulil deem it tyranny if tliis lldUM- were to atlcmiit tu ini- ]io?(' on ilieni univcrs^al !^nli'ia_('. and tlie |icn|ilc i>l' Princr I'jlward Island would deeni it tyranny also if you attempt, as is goin;j; to he atteninted. to restriet tlu'ir francliise. This is llie reason why this matter had i letter he left I.N THE HANDS nV THE I.OCAI. LK(. isl.ATIUl-..-. The memher I'or 6\ John ( Mr.W'eldon ) s.iid yestenlay that the regulation of the franchise was a mutter whicli propeidy cani(> witliin the attriliutes of civil ri.fihis. and therefore had hetter lie left in the hands ;»f the l)rovinces. T <lo not contend that wt' have not the liuht, constitutionally, to estahlish a franchise of our own to apfdy tti the whole I'ominion; hut T say that. accordinji to the. spirit of our constitution, the rei;ula- tion of the franchise is a matter of civil rifrhts whicli conies })roi)er!y within the attrihutes of the local leg- islatures. What T say now is supporteil hy a very hifih atithority, indeed. Story, in speaking- of tiic icfru- lation oftlie franchise^, uses this signiticant language: Till.' tnitli scM'in.s to lie tliiit thi^ ri^lit ol' voting, like in;iti\- other rights, is one wliicli, wlietlior it iiiisu (i.xod fouiidittion in natuiMl law oi' not, has ahvays hcen tr(\'it('il hi the pructici' o! iiatidiis, as a stricly civil rii.'lit,(l<Miv('(l tVoin and ici:iil;it('l In- each -ociety, acoonliiig to it own circinnstanccs ami inti'ic-t-. Now. Mr. Speaker, that is a high authority — that ])erhap3 is th» hest comnuMitator W(.> have upon fede- rative institutions; iind can it he ])rop(;rly said that on the contrary the regulation (d'the fraiu'iiise is to he in the Federal (iovernment. that it is to lie given to the whole Dominion and not to the jirovinces, or lo(,i| power ? I claim under tliis authority that the regula- 202 •j;k( II tiou iil'tlio fVancliise properly coiu'^'- within t lie limits iiiul functions of the local ])o\v('r.s. Now what i'^ the reason 'jiven in favor of a i).)ininion iVanchiso ? Tt i^ that ol'll U)VI\<IAr, FRANCHISE LACKS INII' )!; M FT V Well r aijinirc lln^sciuarcsyniiuctry of tic rcctanuular lines, hut it in not an ar^iunicnt unlcs it i-t supiiortcd hy other reasons. The honoruhlc gentleman uttoinpl- eil to supiioi't it — not hy reasoninLT. hut hy precept, hy example, and preoodent. lie; says our cou.-titution was ■rive<l from the IJrit isji constitution, and he appi-al- a-' a re;i-on tor our havintvii c(l to liritish iuf'titulion- uinfin'in franchise. Well, the cNaniple is ccrtriinly ])oi)rly adapted to that [)urpose, for C'Vcn in (ireat Ih'itaiu, whore they have legislative union, unifor- mity of franchise is not known — in fact, the l"ranchi«e is much more diversilied than our own. Let me quoie on this point, from a, well known hook — one wliieh is in the hand-i of cvei'vh i Iv. the Statosiu'in's Year l>oik. Speaking- ol the ii;ii thor spcnks thus lehisoand its mo lili.Mtions.tl ic au- -iM 1 ■ ll'Wt u'l'.'H t <'!i c.iir<' ill t I • Cil'lStlt in I o\ ( 'jimiums. nl'iiT thf act ol' I s: r.iU'n!' I'oiir-liS. lly ihis .\<'t Eiiglan 1 I'll Wa VX) inemliors ■e.iil .^cotliui'! iJn, w! nuiiiiiiiiMl unalti'r.'il. In a Iiiimu' 'W -v ol til ■ Mm i.' I.,- til' l; ■!■) !■•; wore ••III" 111 ted T of h'--i:ind. ,111 w IS ciuitlcd to Vote nil' tliv' niuiii \vh') w.is of I'ull au'i', Iciiallv c > iir > 't^'iit, iia I ii 'I'll an viiiioai'i- LMtl a lio'Hi'as owiitM' or tiMi nit lor 1 li miiith-^ jii'i'vin w lo .1'! Iv I ol .'niv yea)', .an I hi I pi: i h I a lo l_'i'! wa-; I'li; tl.id to voti' \vli') hi i ■i'.'!i|iii' 1 til anie I'l l_'iii'_'- loi' a ve <r, ilt'ie-^o w.'I'i' lit th" WliU" nt' .it l.'a-t sJ in I lo f;rini<. iiiitn!'iii-l pai'l liy li 111, lively \v> Valil'' of ID shilillL'-, i'V('l\' I'opvliotdi'l' an I ii-a-^i^h older I'll iHhT an I 1. a-i-'lioMi'i- Ol til' an aiiiin.il \alue of C ima I th- I, t'V.TV lioiisi'lioldor wli )^.' riMii wt^ not less tlian C I L', , and every t<'naiU wliosi' rout \v,i< UaO a year, v.is entitli' 1 to vote I'll' a county reiirescntaiive. in .'^cotfui 1 tii" o'.\ ncr-liiji fi'.-mcli ir tlie I'ountv was C"> : li m-i'lio! |i li.i I ]iMi(l tlii'lr i-atcs an<l loilu'Ts wiio pai<l CM). le;Hi'lioMcr-; having' a I'lH years" loasi '.tip' \-aliie ol' \vlio~' ciiivlioMei < or co!)\ n'"il A(iAIN>T Till: KRANCIIISE A( T 2(« or leasi'lioM t'\c!t'i'ile;I liy at leust C!" tii« rent or clmrirf uuon it, liinl a vote lor tlio iioiiiity. LcasflioMei'^ li.ivini: a I'H year-' li'axf of a nlrar vu'IK^ nt C-0 liail al-o a I'oimty vot.'. I'ln' lionmL'li iraiicliisc in liclaml was conliiicil to lioiist'lioMer- rated at not less than C4 a vi'ar. So you ^ce, .Mr. S[)c;iki'r. lluil (iieiit lirilaiii not only lia.s ostalilislioil a separate tVancIiise for each of tlio tlirer Kiiiiriloiii-. liut ill oacji TIIKIIK AUK -KX-KIIAI, i LAS>l-> or -tainlai'il-J of rraiiclii-^c lUit our ooustit utinii i- not only derivoil from r.riti-:li institution- : it is mainly (lirivrd t'lom the Amciican con.-titutinn. ami the .Vmcrican coiistitutinn has a jirinciide e.xartly similar to thai, which I mov advocal"'. They liave icit a unit'oi'1,1 iVanohise : they have a State Iranchi-Je. ami the conslitution enacts that the elertoi-s t^ the Ilou-^e ol' Uepresentatives sliall have the (|ualiliiations ri'ijui- irite for elections to tin' most nunua-ous hraneh of the State leu-i-lature-'. Now tlu' .American eon-ititutiou is oui' model in that rcsiici t. That constitution has stiiod the test of a iireat civil w;ir. Tt has liciin amended from lime tn lime hut very .s[iarin--!v. mid there has not hcen. to my knowh'dii'e. ;ii)y c(e Mlidiit maile airain~t this provision of the constitntio. , Yes- terday thehonorahle memher for !\in;2;\- (.Mr. Ko-ter). speaking' on this ([U'v-tion. said it was the duty "t'this House to reuiihitc its nwn fi'anchi^c, and not to leave it to the whim or fancy of tiii.s one or that one. out that we-hould enact who slnUlhl he the elector- t'l thi- llous(?. Well, for my part, 1 leive no ohjer'tiMU th;!t this sliould he done : perhaps it i- wel 1 after all that the (pic^tion .■dmuhl he settle. I "uce and f'lr all. andth;it to-day this House -dinuld deNiaidiu; wh.i slmnhl he electors to this I hm-e, liut if that i< tn lie ihiiic. let it he (hiiie i i. . .„ II '71 2{)i .'•PEECH AS IT IIA~ IlKKN DUNK IN ■, H K IMTKD ATKs. as it lias liccu in the noininion since tlie Cmifodora- ti'in. and lei us detcrnnne tlnit the electors to the House o|' ('(iiiiinons shall he the electors to the seve- ral Loeal lieirislatures. Xi>\v, n^nin. the honorahle gontlenian. uihlressing himself to this (iiieslion. said wc should he independent oftheliOcal I<(^gislature9. AVell. weare independent ol'tiie fiocnl LcLdslatures in our own sphere, just as much as the Local Tjeuds- latures are independent of us in their sphere. ]>ut. at the same time, this IFouse has no riuhts at all ofits nwn; the only ri^dits which it enjoy.s are those which are delejLMted to it Ky the people of the provinces and it is not for this House to determine what people of the priiviuces shall deh-^fate these powers to the House or in what manner they shall he constituted for that Hurpiise; it is the jieople themselves who should determine wiio .-diall hi' the constituents of the mem- liersofthis House, accordinir to the mode reji'ulated l>y the constitution, speaking- throutjh the Local Le<iis- lattir(-3. AL'ain. the honorahU' .Minister of I'uhlic Works (Sir Hector Laniicvin) si)eakin,u' to this ([ues- tion. said we should have a letrislative franchise of our own. independent nfthe tVanchise of our Local Legislatures. He saiil in so many words : Let the Jiocal Lei;islatur(!S have their "o^vn franchise if they choose, hut let us go on and estahlisli our franchise. This would he well enouii'h if we had two classes of (dectors. one class for the Ooiuinion HOuse and one class for the Local Le^dslatures. But the honorahle jj:entlenKiu foraets that it is the same ])eople who are rei)resented in the liocal Leuislatures and the Domi- nion House. Our system of government is a system of divided powers. It is the same ])eople who are represented in either House, whether in the i.ocal Legislatures or the House of Commons. This House lias certain powers delegated to it hy the people. The Local Legislatures have certain powers delegated to them liy the people, 'Wi4 ACAIN^T THE rUANCllIsK Ai,T 20.-) HIT IT IS TIIK SAMK l'K<iPI.K wlio clulegiito those iiowers in oncli iiistaiici;. Il in to my miiKl a fact wliich cannot lie dcnuMl tliat this hill isan attempt at the I'ederal i)rinci|)lo. It is :'u attpnn)t at centralization. No one ever dvcameil that the ri.iiht iionoralile gentleman who proixised the hill on this occasion and on t'onner occasions would show his hand and declare in so manywords that his ohject in proijosing this measure was centralization. rnlsTc. when the measure was discussed for the first time, the Iionoralile gentleman's most trusted lieutenant, Sir t'luirles Tupper, used this significant language: lie entiiely agreed witli thoct'iitnilizing luiiiciplooitiie bill, Mii'l lie also tlibiiL'ht that tin- fraiicliise sliould bo as near as possible uiiif'onu. I I commend this language, Sir, to those who value the federative principle. They will find it to lie the true keynote of this measure ; in fact, as the first lieutenant of the First ^Minister said, this was no less than a measure of centralization and that was the reason he suppt)rted it. Now, in order to show that the franchise is specially a local matter and not a matter of Dominion concern, let us look at the hill itself. The hill, it is said, aims at uniformity, hut it does not provide for uniformity. There are two dif- terent standards of francliise in this hill, one for cities and towns, and one for rural constituencies. A man, if he has property or real estate to the extent of SloO, if that property is situated in a rural constituency, is a voter, hut if tlie same real estate forms part<d'a city he is not a voter. Now, why is this ? I am not going to en(iuire as to the reason I'or it ; Itut this shows that if there can he in the same province two difTerent standards for the franchise, still more there ought to he 1^ I n. 1 III 20() STKEtll IilKFKUKNT .-lAMiAKKS IN HI 1- 1 i;i{K.\T I'ltdVIXCK.- As to the iiuc-tidii of wniiiMii iVanchisc there ^eeius t<t l)e ;i iire:'t divfvsity of opinion in tliis llonfe. For my part, 1 -iiy if Ontiirio wiints to imve !i woman t'raii- cliisc let tlieni have it. f,tt tiie h'LMHJatui'e ofOntarin give it io women it the jmople or()ntario s-ay tliat it IH h<'»t liir tiici nH'.'lve: 1 1 N (iva >co tir. X e\V l)riU)rf- \\a ick. i'rince I'ldward I.-hmd o r any other provune iits to uivc the riulit nf -^utFra^e to women, h-t it ih go; tiieir h,msiaturert ]iav<' llie pc )W er to do it : hut in tlie ]proviiiee ( i| (Jnelice, .so I'ar a?" \ l<now. tiiere is not one sinjiie < la.*;' in (he eo)nmunity that would extend tlie right oi'thc I'ranchiso to women, not even to that fair ])(n'tion of them to whom it is intended to give it hy this hill. 1 must say this further: T am reallv rnu'iirised tn see the .^^ini^tel• of I'uhlie Work:-, who lias always heen repic-'ented among us ;is ihe uneiMn|ironiising ehampion of that old, jiure. r.niioj- luteil ( 'oii.servati-)u which would not yield to the ahom- iufitions of mi'dcMii (hiclrine.^, ]iromoting in this House a l)ill whieh i.s not only a conre-'sion to i\\r wiciNi'dness of modern doctrine.-. I'Ut whieli is far in advance of all aecepied modern doeii'ines, even in the most advanci d countries. Ifihishill heeomes law, it will gn Inrlh to the world that we in Canada are more advanced than lijnst oflheStat(s nf the Ameri- can uniun ; niore advanced than itcpuhlican France: more advamed than flaly ; and all this will lie due 1i) a Conservative ( ioNCi'mnent of winch the .Miinster of I'uhlic W'oiks is a memher. Now. T commend the M ini-i( r oi' i'uhlic \\'oi'ks tci the tender mercies oft !(• rood, iiiiius. ( 'nii-ei vative l-'rei ii-h ot I he province nl Quehec. l am sure of one thing ; if such a measure ad come I'rom this side of the House, there would liave Iteen thous.'inds of appeals agaiiist it. ;is to the ■wiekediiess of the ilouces ; hut IT IS A t(i.\si:i;\A'n\K Mi:A.-ri;K and. heing a Cunservative measure, I suppcse it mu,-t L;!l AGAIN.-T TilE 1-KAXC11I>E A» T 207 lic ;ii rciilod l>y the Cdiiscrviitive party. 'I'lic ri.ulit liuiidialile IciKler of the ( iovciiuiient said that he wan ill tavur of tlie I'lnaiicipalion of wonifii. \ am of French ori.fin, and T am a Lihcral : and hohlim' thi- dunhlo litlf. I claim that f am in I'avnr nfthc cman- ciliation dl'thc women as niiicli as lie can he; Iml T (Ui liot lichevt' that t he emancipatinn dl' women can lie ■[ircmoti-d so much hy jiolitical as hy social reform. T liclieve that tlie action of women must lie most in- llucntial in [lolitics as in t'vei'ytliinij,' else hut 1 helievc that action is more elective if oxcrci-ed in the circle of home, hy persuasion and advice, than if woman is lirouuhi to tlic poll to vote. If the I'iu'ht honorahle gentlenian is really anxious to do somethniii; for tlie emancipe.tinii of woman, let him ,L;"ive her the o])|)rir- tunily for more exten-sive ediiciition. let him open for lier more lields of employment, and he will do more for her emancipation than hy u'lviiiLi' her the ri^iht to vote. I)Ut there is a ;j;reater (dijection to the pro- posal (jf the riu'ht honorahle u-entlemcn in this reizard, an lihject'on wlii(di wa- jiointeil out yester(lay hy the lioiiornhh- meiuoer I'or Ottawa county (.Mr. \\'i'iL;ht). Tlii- measure proposes to irive the ri^dit of sutTVape to unnianied ladies only, and it is a premium on ce- lilcny. The riL'ht honoi-ahle fient leuian said it was a lue;. sure of emancipation. If it he a hoou, therefore. he places unmarried ladies in this <lile)nma : th.ey have eitlior to choose to remain siiiule and ha\'e the ri.i:ht to vote or to marry and lose the riiiht to vote. It is not lair that it should he so. The writers ol'the past liave spoken of the perplexities <ifa youiiu woman phb ed hetweeii two suitors: hut tlx' writeis of the fu- ture will have to show the perplexity of the younii; Avoman who has to choose Ijetween a husliandand the ri^i'lit to vote. Tt is not fair tliat it should he so. ;iiid if this nicasure is pressed it will he a no\el HKthoilcd." promotim;- the emancipation of women. Hut the mea- sure is liahle to <.'raver and greater idijectious. i sul>- niit to the sense of the Ilmise that this measure is ^ J if '' 1 ' 20S SI'KKiIl' 'I' AN INVASION iiK I'OIM l.AI! UIlillT' 'I i litlicrtn ilu.' vutcr.-i' li.-itrt have been i)ropai'eil by the |i('n|)lo tlioiu.selve.s. The iissessnieiit rolls have been pi'i'lKircd by the penile tlu'iu^olvcs tliri)u;i;h valuators a|)|)()iiili(l by the imini('i|)al councils. The lists liave been iifcpai'od by the people tbeiuselvos through Hf^crctai'y trcasurcM's appointed by the muuicipal councils; the liists have been revised by the j)eo|)lo themselves through the municipal <'ouneils. This system, so far as I know, has worked satisfactorily and well. Now it is proposed that there shall be a (.•han;-fe. What reason is given for that change ? Why should this right be taken from the people? II" T hail to make a report upon my countiymen T would say this, that they are too apathetic in the discharge of their public duties — that they do not give to public business all the attention they ought to give. The ])resent system forces them to give their attention to ])ublic business. Now, that system is to be changed. The voters' lists are henceforth to lie ])repared, not Ijy the p('oi)le. l)Ut by lawyers appointed l)y the ( iov- ernment. assisted by clerks and constables. What can be the reason of that change? Can it be for the sake of uniformity? Uniformity is not alleged in this instance. Ts it because of the adoption of a Dominion franchise, and because eince we have a Dominion franchise we cannot allow the lists to be prepared by the municipal councils, but must have them prepared by oilicials of our own ? But. as long as we give the execution of our laws to the courts of justice. I do not see why we should not give the the administra- tion of that part of the law to the municipal councils. If the change is made as a consetjuence of the intro- duction of a Dominion franchise, this must be A BAD MLASURE, INDEICH, if to carry it out you are obliged to deprive the ]ieo- ple of a portion of the rights they now exercise. The AliAINsT TIIK l'i!A.N(in>l': AlT 2(19 prf'.^ont s_\>t('iu liii.s <o far worked .•satisfactorily : I am ni»t aware lliat tlie vntcirs' list? have not lifoii |ii'o|ici'ly }»rei)arfMl ami revised \>y tlio.so wlio liavo hitlioito had tlic duty orprcpaiimr and rovisinL'- tli(>m.T'mler the law, — in the innvinee of (inehec, at all (n'cnts, — Iheic is aii api»eal iVom the decision ol the municiital coinicils to the courts ; T have been curious to know if this riulit of appeal has hcoa exercised to any de<rree. Jiecause if it had ht-en exorcised to a ^'reat def^ree. that wnuld be an evidence that th' law was not prop(,'rly admin- istered liy the i)r(.vince ; hut if T tind that the a]ipeal5.' na ve h(>en verv few indeed, the only comd u- sion I can arrive at is that it Avorks well. A friend of mine has taken the trouble to enquire how many appeals have been taken in the .=evcral districts in. the four years, 1 SSI, 1SS2. iss;', and ISSl : and as a result of tliat enijuiry I lind tl at in the district ot' Montreal there have been K). in Quebec none, in Three Rivers 1(», in l^t Francis none, in Arthabaska '2. in Mont- nia^my -I, in Terrebonne none, in Kimouski none, in Richelieu none, in ]>eauce none, in Ottawa none, in (iaspe none, in Joliotte 1, and Jiedford 1 ; in all only 4(1 appeals in the four years, or ten per year. Well, iii tlie province of Quebec there a'^e PoniethinL,^ like SoQ municipalities, so thai the number is just a little more than one per cent, and less tlian two per cent, of the total number of lists pre))ared each year in all the municii)alities. It is therefore evident that THIS SYSTEM HAS WOKKED SATIS EACTORII.V and you must remember this, that the ap])eal iriven under the present law is not an ai)peal of grace such as ])rovided for in this bill, but an a])peal which is in the ri,Ldit of every one. and yet there has lieen, under this system, only an average of a little more than one j)(>r cent, of complaints made to the PU]ierior tribunals of the regulation of the franchise as estab- lished by the municipal councils. The bill is still liable to a Lnaver objection : it is a direct invasion of the U 'i Ji i ii aiij 210 f-I'KKCII ACiAINST TIIL FUANCIIISK MT l)0\vf'i's ItitliPi'tii fnjnyod l)y t\\(' piMjplc, So l';ir tlio lieoph; tliomsclves luivo liiul the prepniiition ol" tlitvo lists, hut honcel'orwnrd tluit powor i.s to he tiikeii mit of tlieir liaiuls; mikI whut is tlic rcusou tiivoii lnr taking- away iVoin tlic iioojile lliat duty <it" wliidi they liavc liad the cnjoynient ovtr hIucc CoutV'deration ? I u.so the word onjoyineut advisodly, Ijecause tho exer- cise nf ii duty HO |)reciiiU9 a.s this inust ho an ( iiJDyiucut ratlior than an oldi^fation. V(;t tins precious riiilit is jtroposed to h(.' taken away iVoni the people ; and I do nnl imagine tliat tlio sturdy yeomen oftiiis eounti'y Avill subnnt to tliis i'or any length of time; T (h) not ima;.dne tliat tliey will yield without a pi'otest this riLdit TO ni:N(iiMi:N ov tiiic (;«(Vi;i:n.mi:xt, I ii to the innumeraMe army of parasites wliieh feed on the ( iovernment and whose sole ohject will he to do the hidding of the (iovernment. In every euneeiv- altle point this measure is in my opinion a had lueasure. one that will ho denounced hy all those who In'lieve in |)opular rights, who believe in the sacred- iiess of our constitution, as an invasion of popular righi.'. and as a step towards centralization; and in this view I I.)cgtomove the following resolution : — 'riiiit ill! till' words aitei' '•' til it " lio .'<tnick out and the fctllowini: iiisiTtLMl : in the opinion of tiiis IIoii>^c it is prctor- sitilo to (continue tilt' n'an wliicli lias I)oon aiioptPil ever sinca Conri'ilt'iation ol' iitiiiziuL' lor the t^loctioii ol tliis House tlio proviui'iai traiu'hisL' and voters' lists. Tlie Second lusiirf^ctioii in ttie Nortli-West TIIK FKDKIIAL (iOVKltNMKNT CHARCKD WITH IIAVTNC DKI.IP.KIIATKI.V I'KUVOKKI) IT Ml!. AriMKl; IM'It IMIINT I'lic l(illov\ ill.!.' sini'cli liy Ml. I.auiit'i' cix'atcd an iumu'ii*)' Hoiisatidii ill ParliaMicnt.iIt'livPi'cd as ii was iiiiiler \t'iy scilcinn cui'iimstanot's at llic tiiuf wln'ii tin- I'l'iloral voliiiiti'crs uoro i(!tiiniiiiL' tioiii a cainpaij-'u of several months in tiic Noitii ^Vost, wliicli liail cost tlio country both lilond ami iiiillions oi' jiioiiey. ( )ii tin' I'vciiiiii: in'fvious ('itii .Inly, I ^s.",^ lli)iioial)le Edwai'l i'.lals(> JKul. in lour Itrii'f linos, t'onuuiate'l a most rormiilabltMinlii'tmi'iit a;.'ainst tlu' < io\t'iiimcnt, ojicnly ami lioldly ai'cnsiii^ tliem ol liiivini: lii'on tln' real piovokcis ami luitii H's oftlic insnri'ci'tion. In siinii^rt of'liis mntioii. whicli was in tlii'sc terms .- 'I'll leave Dili all the werils allcr '• t hut " and in^ci'l llic lullowiini llislc. il IhiTcol : ll 'le /i'«,V'// (■<'(/.- 1' I la! I ii lln' adiiilnl^l IMI l(iii (it Noil li- W'l'sl altaii's li\ 111.' |iir>-eiit t i()\ ciuniciil . prior to the rn-ini (iull'i-eal<. I licre have orcuicil uravi' ni-liuici> iiT iirL'licl , iirla\ iiml iiiNinanaLir- II will 111 ma! U rs alli<'tinL' tin' IKMee, \\ cllaic ami L'imi.I i;ii\ iTiHliein nl tli.- l'Dluilry. Mr. ISlake JKul made a 1(1111.' ami eloi|iirnt siieecii. wliicli Avas answered liy Sir -loiiii A ^lacdonald. wlm in iuinwa> replied to Iiy Mr. Lanrier : — ;Takin Imai the I Ian -an I (illss'i. p. ill'.i, sltiiinr ol" Tth .lui.v) ?3 !; i *'' .i :i" 212 s|'KE» H Mi:. Si'Kakkk. Tlicic! is all 1)1(1 r-ayin;j; wrll knuuii to all o|' us that ii ^'"1(1(1 Inwvur can iiiaUc "if a iuul cause a jrooil tiiic. The sipcccli (if the rii!lil IntiKiralilc ^^ciitlciuaii ycrJtcnlay iiiUHt have coiiviiuMMl cvcryoiic dt' ih that then; are ciisoH so (lospcrately had that all the inijcii- uity of the ahh^st ('(Min^t'l caniKit make ihciu appear jj;()()(l. The cumo must he desperalc iiHlce(|, when a <ienthnian of the lii;;h position which th(!ri<j;ht hoiiorahle Lieiitleman occupies in this House, does mt*; scruphi to torture the words ol' his opponent, in order to make out a case for himself. Tnthe very heLrinnini? of his s])ee(di. the honorahle ji'entlenian adopte(l thnt .system, and he kept it U|t to the end. In alnio't his opeiunu' senteiH ethc ri<rht honorahle jrentleman statc(l (hat my honorahle friend, the leader of the ( )pposition — in the loufr. as lie characterized it. and as he iniL'ht have sai<l. the most ahle speech ever deliv(.'re(l hy my honorahhi friend — while ))resentinjr the (daims of the half-lireeds in the Nortli->\' est Territories to a s|)eeial l^rant of land, had not in a sinj.de instance stat(;d that the chiini was a just one. The honorahle <i;entlemau forj-^ot. and he siioiild not have forjxotten, that my honorahle friend at the very outset of his speech atlirmed the justice of the case of the half-l)reeds in the most characteristic manner, in the followinj; lan^auige: • lustice is the same i>voi'y\vhere. .Tiistico is the same, \vhetii<^r it he on tlie banks oftlie Saskatcliewnn or on lie? liiiiiks of tiie Uei\ Hiver: justice demands tliat tlie "^ame treat- ment wliioli has been extenclod to the halt-breeds on the banks of tlie b'ed l{iver sliall also be extendfd to the lialf-breeds on the banks of tlie Saskatcliewan. The ri<j:ht honorable gentleman, Sir, forgot that statement, and the case has to be a desperate one, indeed, when it has to be supported with such a dis- tortion of facts. Again, the Imnorable gentleman. i)ro- oeeding in the same line, in order to clear liiniself of » UN TIM': X(iiri'ii-\vi:-T ukiiki.lidn •nn llu! cliMVL'o tlmt was hmuirlit HL'ninst him (if linvinir I'iiiU'iI I'lif sfvoii years ti' (lis|i(ci(' nf tlic claims <<{' the liall'-liri't'd-i. stated that tlio Mjickciizic Adiiiiiii.-itratinii hud nut mily I'aih- 1 tu di>iitiisc ol' thn-ic claiiu-. hut Juul iictually (h'lnt'd tlich' jiHticc ; and in cmiIit to pVdVf ids statcmt'iit in- prncccdcd to (|Uiit(' uitli Lircat nitparcnt ulci! iVniji a i^tntc impcr nl niv liiiii(iriil)lt' friend fn.ni l!..tli\vell (Mr. Milis) wliih- in tlie Mao l<tMi/.i(' (invi'innicnl. 'I'hat paper 'wh udlrc'-ied {n Mr. .Laird, at lliat time iii(nit>;naiil-( iiivernor nf the Norlli- West Territories, iu answi'r tnjin appiieatiun made liy him for seeil urain iin lielrdf of tiie liulf-lireeds. Tlie lionoralde miMniiei' for llotliwell wrote iia I'olinws : — Tlic aplilKiiltioil of tlic petitioners to lie iliili'(l l.y t lio < io\('iiiMiriit witli seed ami ii^'rii'iiltural iiupleiiifiits in their fai'iiung o)i(Miition-i, I ironfess I am not ili-<|io-;i' 1 to sii'W t'av.)i'- ul)f\. 1 ilo not see upon what jjioinul- tlie hill'l)i(M"ls cun elalni to lie tfeatcil in this piiiticiilar ditloronl IVonith'' vvliite settlers in tlie 'I'enitoiies. The liall-l)i'eeds,\vlioln,ve, in some r(vs|)e('ts,tlie a lv,inta:.'cs over new settlers in tlie TeirMiorieH, slionld he iajpies.sed with the necessity of settling down in tixeil localities iiml diieetinj,' their energies tow.n'ls pastoriii or agric^nltnra! pur-nits, in whii'h case lands uonM, no doiiht, lie assigne 1 to them in the Kaine way as to white set tiers. But heyonil tin-- tiiey must not look to the tio\('rnment !or any special as^istunce in tlieii iariiiini: o[ieiiitions. 1 I So tliat tins paper of my lionurahlo friend from ])oth\vell did not at idl apply to tlie question of the lands and tlie extinjijuisliment of the Indian title, liut it ap)>liedt() tlie treatment of the lialf-hreeds and their claim to he aided ])y heitig furnislied seed and aj^ri- cultural implement.^. That was iill, and yet, durin*; the whole ut'tlie sjieech of the ri<];lit honoralde gentle- man, he insisted that the Mackenzie (lovernment liad denied tlie claims of the half-iireeds to a special grant of land in extingui:^hment of the Indian title. Tlien again, continuing in tlie .same strain, the right honor- flhle gentleman charged liis predecessors witli derelic- tion of duty, hecause they had failed, while in power, f! I 1:5; y' r 1 ' ■ 1 • * i ,« V. 1 ). 1 * ' ^ r 1, lil 214 SPEEtU to ^fottle the land cliiiiiis of tlio luiU'-hreods. Sir. is it possible that the rijxht hoiioiablo geiitleninn had the cijurauoto advanc-e such a plea a.-^ this in justilication ot" iiiiuselt'? I low longi.s it since the Mackenzie Admin- istration has fallen from poAver? It is six full years; nearly seven years have elai^sed since tlien. Well, Mr. Speaker, if it was a crime in th(> Mackenzie Admin- istralion to have failed to settle tliuse claims, how can the honorable iicntlenian def(Mid himself wlien he has allowed nearly seven years to elapse without doin^ so either ? The charye against the Mackenzie Administration is jx-rfectly groundless, as T shall demonstrate liefore I take my seat, hut il' lliat pre- temleil excuse he tliii only justilication wiiicli the right hoiioralile gentleman can urge in ids liciiali', I leave it to the judgment of th.is country to say whether it is a sulhcient justilication or not. Now, the h(jnoral>U- gentleman [iroceeded very exultingly to declare tliat there hail lieen no casi' of oppression, that there was not even a pretension tliat the people liad been oppi'(>sse(l. that not a single hall-breed had lieen removed iVom his holding. No cause t'or oppression! Why. Mr, Speaker, was it not oppression v.hen men had long been settled upon their lands^ even liefore the country was transferred to Canada, when they had made homes for themselves, when they liad put buildings upon tlieir lands, and when, under the policy of the present (iovernmeiit, land surveyors were sent among them, who ran lines across their fields, splitting u)! farms and fields, who ran their lines so as to ])Ut the buihlings on one side antl the I i elds on the other: and after these people liail .sent delegation after delegation to this (iovernment for redress, had been constantly refu-ed ri'ilress. If this was not a case of oppression. 1 wouhl like to know what can con-stitute oppiossion in the cye^ of the right honoraiile gentleman? The homes of these ]ieo]ilo Avere invaded — not accidentally, but deliberately — under the policy of the (iovernment tor the survey of that countrv ; and vet the lumorable gentlcMnan savs ON THE XOKTII-WEST RICIUCI-MON •2V there was no ctise of op[ires3inn. Sir, wluit was it then iliat Fatlier Andre ])roteste(l aj^ainst when he wrote to the (iitvernment in the tnllo\vin<^ manner, first settinij; forth tliat settlers thei'e have settled aee<irdin,Li- to the old custom, ten chains frontinjx on the river, and trusting;' the ( iovernment would survey accordinu-ly, lu; ::<';ds: Thoii' siii|)iis(! inny bo iinaginoil wlicu tlioy .s;nv tin- 'aiil-^ aloDix thf Sask.itchcvviin iniMsiu'oil ntV into s()IImi'<'s of f.irty oiiaius, without hci.vl Ihmhi: trivi'ii to thi'ir Ju^t I'iaiiii-i aul {'Vo. What is tiiat Father Vi^'reville protested aiiainst Avhen he wrote to Caotain Deville, chief of the sur- \'eys ? I, luysclf, oaii:i''l Mi'.Diu'l^.tlie Dominion ian'l ^ui'Vfyir.to V rite sov(jral times to ' 'ttawa an I ahvays witiioui >n-;o.i's-;, until linally I lieoanii> iliseouva.ireil jnyscli', an'l .several i)eo|ilc ^^•^_v(^ oliliiieil to leave the settii'ini'nt, some sellinix their laiul fora nominal iiriee and otliiTs ahanilonin:,' it witiiDut any eoni|ieu nation. in i'l.'hiiiai \\ l^s.j^tlie Kev. l'"ath>'r Leduc ainl Mr. Maioiiey were (jeputeil li>- the sit tlement to :-it lorth our comi)laints ainl lU'esent our ilcniand to tin' < ioseiiiment. 'I'liey wck^ u:iveu i: writtfu i>iomiM tliat the lamN we oeeupieil should he sur- Vf\ed in nv(M' lots of 10 chains the autumn t'ollowiii!.' M >>'.'?;. I understand you to tell me to ha\e [larirnoi'; tli.it, <'\-.m \ • hin^ wilK-omc out riuht in the I'M 1. Tle'~'' are words whii-ii, Jut- luit I'.ie to say, I eannot aeceiit ; the time is [>ast. Tht' hoiiorahle uentleman flien inoeceded tn say that no liall'-hreed had ever heen niolc-ted. that no half-hreed Had (^ver lost his lioldin:^. In an orLr^in of the viovernment. /.'■ }lainh,'.ii n\ lotli May l:i-t. 1 tind the foUuwinjr letter from h.alfhret^ds. whiih was lirst puhlished in luii,di.sh in iho JMlnionton llnli'iin. [ have it here in Freneli. ,iuil 1 will re-traaslaie it into the oriu-inal English. Tiii- is what tho p.ijM'r ^'o(;sou to s;iy : Kar trom obtainin.i; liberal term<, \\\: hav<' not ''VU n'l- . t. m I' I' ■Ml': 21G SPEECH taiiH'd, justice. Lii-;t siimimn' wo luil Um agent of the Govorn- ineiit tosetllc! !i!lc|U.^:^tioiis relatiuLT to liiii'ls in this lojiility. li tlio :iLrent"soiilyi>liirct liu'I Im'cu to |irnvnke tin' liiiH-liieoilri'liel • lion 111' I'ouM not liave clone lii-ttcr than liy I'ollowiu;.' tii" eoiiise lie has clone, and ,:iivinL.' tlie cleeisions he iiat* I'ecorded.wliicli <leei- sion- are always eliaractci'i/.eil hy the most manifest injnstice. It woulcl he inipossihie to state a case of a seetion of laii<l in dispute hotween a hali'-hreed and a stranger wliere tlie hall- l)roed has not been saci'ilicecldn many instance's half-hreeds.who for a lonL; time have been in possession of these lancls. liave luicl theii' lands taken away from them and divided amonLr strangers newly arrivecl ; and these- unfortunate hallbreecU liavi.' been thereby loroed to leave the place and go aucl sidtle elsewhere where the same fate i-erhajis awaits tlnin in the tntnre. Is it believed we liave no grie\ance ? We have griev- ances and we feel them deeply. Signed, SA.\iri;b Cl'.WlXiillAM. OCTAVE liKLbKI.'oSE, •InllX CUN.MXilIlA.Ar. I'.Al'flSTE CMU iri'Ki'ATTE, .lolIN i;(»\VL.'.XD, v». lioWbAXP, L. CIIASTKLLAIRE. L. (iOKlVEAU. Then the honDrablo g'entloman iiroceeded to say tlitit the whole hianie for the reliollinn and iln conse- quenc;e3 must l)e cast ui)un the(irit party. When the lioniiraltle a-entleiuan lias made sucli a statement as I have just referred to, tliat tliere are no grievances amoni: tlie lialf-breeds in tiie Nnrtli-West, lie may as ■well say that thedrit party is responsihle for the" re- 1)elliiin and all its conseepience. Such rant — for such lang:uage is nothing more than rant — is unworthy of him. Vet. such language is ([uite in kee})ing with the language which the honoralde gentlemen has used ever since the (i[)ening (d' ihese troubles. Ever since the.'e North- West trouldes arose, the tactics of the lioniirahle gentlemen have been TO WASH THEIR HANDS of all responsiltility and proclaim themselves iiultg f f ' ' ^rf. 'M' 1 i O.N Tin-: Nuirni-wEST hkiiki.i.ion 217 innofpnt of tlie Itloodshed. nnd lay all tlie bhinif on tlie iiii^ui'gi'Uts. To every cntiuiry made tis to the orig'in of the^e troul)le3, the same answer i?! f:iven : The half-breeds liavc no cause, they have no griev- aiiees. Such has i;een the languajio of the honorable "lentleiiien all tiirough. S|ieaki!ii!' on a recent oeeasion on the same subject, he stated, what he repeated again yesterday, that the half-breeds hail no cause, tliat the reliellion was a causeless rebellion ; and he concluded in the following language ; AVc Ipclicvc, witii Jill tlie conscioiisiH's?; fil' being right, that ill • jU'tguH'nt ot the ooiiiUi-v will lie that we liiive itcteil well, tiiat we liave acted to the best ot our abilities ami tliat, in tlii> case, our uliilitie> liavi' not been wion:.'!v direetod. And again, speaking on the same subject on ano- ther occasion, he made another declaration. At that time he l)elieved that the rebellion was not due to the iirit ))arty — that is a new thought, anew grievance — but was due to L(juis Iviel. lie said ; i'rom former oecurreuces in tlie Xortli-W'ost, lie fiJiel) is oonsiilei(>il a sort et' martyr in the eaiise — a «ort of iiaif breed Malidi — and tiiey look up to huu with a sort <if suiieistitious regard, and tiom that leeling lie is al)le to act upon these poor people. Such was the language of the hon'orable gentle- man. The only explan.itiuii he could give of the re- bellion lias been this : That the insurgents had no grievances, but that they had been the the victims and dupes of Louis Kiel. Such an explanation is ex- ceedingly futile. From what we know of r^oui- Riel. he does not appear to lie one of those extraoi'dinary men. who can comma,nd general sway over their fel- low countrymen. And there is no man in the world, Avhalever his power may In-, who could take men from a state of peace and bring them iiit'i war. ' I 21 S SPKECH •I i 1 11 I hi) SI.M"I.V IIV Ills INKI.l K.XCK, If w. iinle-is tliei'p \\oyi\ deep-.^eiitod and lonn-.fclt I'eelinijfs of ;^riev[inces. The lionoraMt'gtmtUMiiaiK^oTQpared ri')uig Kiel to the Mali li. We know little alxmt'tho Maluli. hut we flo know this: That tlu^ ju'ople oi' the Soudan who were broutiht into rehellion had been sutrcring for years and years from most (h'spotic rule. They had lieen for years ground by excessive taxation, and the Mahdi brought them into reliellion by pronii-iing to relieve them from Ihe state of .-utlering in which they were then placed. T can illustrate what 1 am now paying, that no man however iiowerl'ul. can exer- cise such inllueniM' as is attributed to Louis Kiel, by a, page fiiim our own history. Few men have tluMcbeen anywher(> wlio have wielded greater sway over their fellow-cnuiit ryiiicn than did .^!r. l'apin(>au at a certain time in the history of Lower-Canada, and no man ever lived who had been more profusely endowed by nature to be the idol of a nation. A man of command- ing presence, of majestic countenance, of impassioiu'd elo(|uence. of umblenn^heil cliaracter, of pure, disin- t.^rosted patriotism, for years and years he held oyri- the hearts of bis fellow-countrymen almost mi- boundcil sway, and. evt;n to this day. tlie mention of his name will aidU-c throughout the length ; ud breailtli of bwuer-Canada a tlirill o|' (•ntluisiasm m the breasts oi'vill. men or women, old or young. What was the sc V( t of that great power he held at niie time? Was is ■dimply liis eloiiUenee. his cdnnnanding intellect, or even his pure jiatriotism? No dnulit. V,hey all coiitriliutc(l ; but ibe main cause ol' his authority over his fellow-ccumtrvmen wa-^ this, that, at that time. Ills tV'llow-countrynieu were an opj)ressed race, and he was the chanipion of their <"iuse.i!ut when the day of relief came, the iiiliuence nf Mr. Papineau, h'ovevcr great it might have lieen and however great it -till I'emained. ceased to ■> itaranmunt. When eventually the I'nion Act was i ai'ried. I'apineau viol- ently assaulted it. showed aU its ilefects. deficiencies ON TIIK NORTH- WE-T I!Kr,KM.I<1N •21!) anil dangers, and yet lie could not raist; his t'oUowers and the people to agitate for tlu^ repeal of that Act. WHAT WAS THE REASON"; c> The conditions were no more the same. Tini)prfect as was the Tniori Act it still gave a measure ol' tVeeiloiu an<l justice to tl\e p(M>ple. and men who at tlie mere Riiund ol' ]\Ii'. I'apincau's voice wonhl liave ghidly courted ileath on Itattle liehl or scatrold, then stood silent !ind irresponsive, though he asked them noth- ing moi'c than a constitutional agitation for a repeal iiftlif I'nion Act. Condilimis were no more the sain<> ; tyranny and oppression had made rehels of tin' pen pi (^ of Lower-Canada, while justice and iVeedom mado them true and loyal subjects, which they have Ixmmi ever since. And imw to t(>ll us that Louis Riel. sim- ply hy his iniluence, could bring these men fnim peace to war; to tell us that they had no grievances ; to tell us that lliey were brought into a stat(M>f rebel- lion either tlirougii pure malice or through indiecile adherence to an adventurer, is an insuH to the intel- ligence of the people at large and an unju-t aspersion on th(> i)fople of the Saskat(diewan. T!i(> honorable gentleman tells us that the i)eoi)le t^t' tiie Saskatche- wan river have no wrongs ; this is but a continuaMoii of ih.e system which has been foHnwed all along with regard to this pei>)]!c. They have been denied their just rights, and now they are slandered by the same men whose vmjust course towards them drove them to the unfortunate ])roceedings they have ailoptiMl since. This I do charge upon the ( iovernm(>nt : that they have for years and years ignored the just claims of the half-bi'ceds of the Saska,tcliewan. th.it I'or y^ars and years these peojile have been petitioning tin; ( ■ )V- ernment and always in vain, i say they have bi'cn treated by this (lovernment with an inditference amounting to undisguised contempt, that they have been goaileil into the unl'ortunate course they have adopted, and if this relieMion be a crime. I say L'lili hPKK( ir : « TilK l;i;>l'().\>liiIl.ITV K.H; I'lIAT ( uniE AveiLrlis iis imidi u])i>n tin; men wlui. hy tlioir cnnduct, liiivc ciiUHed tlio ri'lielliou, as u|>''.ii those wlio onirauinl in it. Tlio right hDnoraliio frcntleiuan said y('stfi(hiy that the h-adur of the ()i)iio.'?iti(»ii had prepared -i hriet" for tlie hnvyers of Louis Jliel. S(jni(' ImiHiraMe iiieinh(>rs: — Heai', hear: tliat 1?= true. .Mr. Laurier: — Tiiey say imw it is true. T say tliis. that il'th(> conduct of lh(! ( ioverunu'Ut is ])art of the defence of J^oui.s Uiel. tlien the ( iox ernnient must take the consequences. Tt will not do f<pr them to say : 'i'ou must not attack us. because hy attacking lis you will save Ijouis Uiel. The (iovernmcnt have put i-ouis Uiel on his trial for life and death, and T sujipose it is not his Idood they are looking for. I suiipose, ii' they are hn)king to anything, they are looking to nothing l)ut su1)stantial IJritish justice, and il', in the facts Ijrought out yesterday by my honorable friend, there is something which would go in favor of tlie defence of Louis Uiel, then Louis Kiel has the full right to that part of his defence. I say mure. I rejjcat that I do not lielieve that the men who to-day have put f.ouis Uiel on his trial for his life and death do not desire his blood, that they are only looking for justice; and if justice requires that in the numerous papers which have been sajipressed, which have not been brought down to this House, there i3 an^ything which can gain favor of Louis Uiel's defence, it is their <luty to liring them down, and if tliey were concealing anything which could serve for the defence of Louis Uiel. I would charge them with helping his murder, il' he were tried in the al)sence of such portion of his defence. Tt will not do for the honorable gentleman to attempt to rouse the preju- dices of the nrasses with res))ect to this matter. I' ' '. lit. TIIEUE AllK PKE.IinUES IN THIS CorXTKV of many kinds. We are not yet soliuilt up a? a nation (i.\ TlIK N(iliTll-\VE>T I:1:I!1.I.I.IipN L'21 as to fdi'gol <iur resi>e(.'tiv(' ()ri<.nn.-i, nnd I .siiy tVaiikly tliat the i»(Mi|)k' of my own province. wIki linvt a c'lm- luuiiity ')!' (iriiiin witli the in.^urgcntH. H^'uiiiallii/t* Avitli liu'in. ju.st as tlic .synniaiiiie.s of tlie peonh- i>t" Ontariii who are ol a ilifTcrcnt ori<i;in wouhl i^n ulto- getlier in the ntlier (lirectimi. Some hiiimralih' iin'inlici's : — No. sir. Mr. Lauricr: — No? W'iiy is it Ihoii that it was rejieati'il yesterday, that it is rejieated to-(hiy in tiie press, tliat it will be asserted and repeated to-inniruw, and again iliat my honorable friend, the leader i>f the Opposition, has i)repared a brief for the lawyers of Louiy Iiiel. Why, Sir, that is appealing to the worst kind and tlie lowest prejudices of the mhsses. Tt is said, and truly said, in your hmguage. Sir, that lilood is tliicker than water. \ am of P'rencli origin, and T confess that if T were to act only t'rom the Idood whicli runs in my ve.ns, it would carry me strongly in favor of tliese peo,'le; but, al)ove all, I chum to lie in favor of what is just and right and fair, t(j be in favor of justice to every man, and i sav. let justice be done, and let tlie consequences tail upon the guilty ones, whether on the head of Louis Kiel, or on the slioulders of the (iovernment. Sir, the (iovernment are all the more unjustirtal)le in their conduct, that the ex))ericnce of the i)ast ought to have made them more cautions. It is an ominous I'act that, althougli this young Confederation has existed only eighteen years, it has already been assailed twice by armed reliellion. Of the first rebellion we now know the causes. Light has been let upon that subject, ^\■hat was the cause of the first rebellion on the Red River in ISi;;) and LSTd? The cause, as we now know, is that the (iovernment — this (iovernment. the men who are in power now. and who were in power then — attempted to take possession of the country WrrilotT ANY l!K<.AR]i to the rights otthe people as a whole, whilst they mvaded the rights of the people as individuals. It I Pi 222 sriiEcii '-"1 M-l V ' ■L .1 4- , ''i ■ 1' » •r.. H- '; . ki;.: "V- ' i;i« Lii.ii may 1)0 cnnccived that these peopU'. who liad heea jic.custiiiiicil tn the wihl lil>erty dflhc jtrairii-. wlio luul licou accuHtomed for jienoratiuii.-j and ^ciu'ratious to rove all twvv the whole continent, who looUed upon the country as their own, and rej^arded as their own every plot of land on which tliey cho.se to pitch their tents; I say it may he well conceived that these ]ieo|.le. hall" wild as they were, wonld regard witli Konicthinu' like jealousy the doings ol' a (iovernment wliich suddenly cunie in upon them and assumed autliitrity over the territory. Then what took jtlace at tliat time? One would liave thouj-dit that it windd have heen at loar^t i)rndeut on the part of the (lovern- inent to take some conciliatory steps towards these jieople, liut instead of that thej' went into the country and treated the })eop!c as people used to lie treated in feudal times, as if the}' had hten j)art and parcel of the territory which was purchased from the Hud- son's i'.ay ('omi)any — treatinu- the jieople, T S:ay. as if they weri' serfs in I'eudal times — part of tiio ground which was sold. The people resented such a course. ])Ut that was not all. The (lovernment attemiited a Bystem of survey which was the most odious that could he devised I'or the peojde. Home of the p(-ople had holdin;zs "r proi)ertie3. with lields and huihlings, and the surveyors sent hy the (iovernnient jiaid no lieed to their lioldings. hut ran their lines across their pos.sessions. and. as might he imagined, A (iUKAT DIsniinANCK took iilaci'. The facts are well illustrated hy the liistory of the rohellion. and T cannot do hetter on this suhject than (juote the hdlnwing from the rejiort of Mr. Donald A. i^mith. who was at that time appointed agent to investigate the matter: A iK)t inconsidoralilf iiuiiil'cr ol' tlicin remained tiiie to thoir iilk'L'i(inr,(^ (luiiiiL'all the tiouMe tlu'ou.'li wliicli they h i\e had to pa».s, uii 1 with tliejo will now hofouud ai-sociated many I'N THE N(iUTIl-\VK,>T l;EI!KI.I.Ii>.\ 0>' otlioi'~ wlios'Miiinils li;iil tor ii timo bfcii (loisniU'il with <.'iiiss iiii.4ie|ire.>-ent;itiniis iiuidcliy ilcsiiiiiin^ iiu'ii. lor tlioirownsi'ltisli i-nils. A kno\vlccljr,Mit tlif true stuto nltlip caso anil ol tlic ii'lv anta,:.'!'-^ tln'v wmild ilerivo fVoni a union witli (.'aiui'la, had liecn C'iir"t'ully k(')it troin tlu'in.aml tlh'V wore toM tojml^'t' olCaiia- tliaiis iic'Mcially liv IIm' act> ami lirariiij.' oT -omi' ot tlif k's> re- iloctiiij.' iiiiiiii;.'raiits wlio had dcnonrtMl thcin as ciinilu'icr- ol tlie j.'iniui 1. who must spicdily iiiiik" way lor a .su|)erior race ahoiU to pour in upon tlicni. It is also tru(! that in tlii! unauthoi- i/.iid iiioffi'din,i.'s of some oit-ln' nu'cnt I'anadiai. arrivals, sonn- pUuisihlc jrroui'd had hoon >.'ivpn for tiu' Jealousy and alarm with which tiie conK'miilatcd chatiiic or;rnv('riun(>nt wa< n-irardi'd hy the nativi- poiiulation. In vai'ious localities thost" adventurers liad keen indu>lrii)usly mari<in<j: oil' lor th.'m~elvi'- considera- ble, uul in some cases veiy cxti'Usive and exceiitioiially \aiua- hle tracts of landj tiierei)y impressuiL' the mimls of tlic iiiftph- Avitli the belief that the time luul come when, in their own country, they were to bo entirely supplanted liy stranirers — a b(!lief. however, 1 liave no doubt, which mi^'ld have been en- tlrel\- precludo<l by tin- prevention ol all such o[iei'atiou-, until Canada iiad fully inifolded iier policy and shown the giound lessiiess of these fears. rpdii tilt' .siuiie suKjeet. a lioidc writtoii l)y Mr. Tuttle. ■•The History of Mnnitolia, "' siicaks iis follnw:^ \\\)tn\ till' iitlitudo niul the t'coliiig <d'tlie l-^'cncli liall- hrecd.s ; 'I'lie feolini: oftlie l'"ren(di hall ln'oeds may be briellv expre>- sedaithis: 'that they ipu^siioiied tin' ri.L'ht o!' the l)om;nion <iovcrnment to taki' possession of what they con~ideieii their country, without their consent. The fe(ding wa^ shown in the .stoppaire of the surveyors. Sncnv and Wel'b. Mure cliiiracteristic yet. ;i imniphlol, written l>y Louis Ricd. in 1S71. and imlilidicd at the oflicc oftlie Ndiii-i'iiti Mojtdc, retid." thus : The Xorth-\Vt,>st Territorries were transfored to ( 'aiiada only on tln' l.')th .ialy, ISTO: but Canada oonnuene.'d in I '-'i>i'i'.i ]iul)lio works in its own name, in i;np>rt's Land .and the North West, without liaviiiir obtaint>d tin' .authoi'ity oftlie Ihid-on Bay Company. The arrival of the i Canadian agents in thr coun- try was sii-'nalized by tiic contempt which they allected ioi ill 224 ^I'KKCH till' iiutlinfity '>! till! Umlson I^iy < 'niiiiianv 'iml lor tlic old sctlli'i'-. 'I'lii'y attt'iiiptt'il to tiiku |ic>.>sc'ssi()ii of tlir licsl liiiids (it til" liiiiriiici'ij-. cspi'ci illy at l'oitit<> (It's ('liriics, ii jmrisli aliont ■in luillcs cast ol' l'"iirt Hanv. 'riii'\ iiri'tcinli'il tliat tiicy Iri'l liiiiiu'lit tliosi! lamls Iruin tlir Imliaiis. AI'Iit .Mr. Snow lia I coiiiiiiTici' 1 till! woi'U ot'tlm l)a\vsi)ii rotiti' h'twccii tliD l.aki- <>r till' Wools aii'l I'liiiiti ili's ( 'iii'in-s, in |S()>, in tlio naini' of < 'unuila, aiiolliiM' intnulcr, innjcr tlic saniG aiitiiority, coniMUMircNl 11 survey, in tlie.-ninnuT ol l^i'i'.l ai'oiiml j-'m't < iarry, ol' tin- ]iiiMi(! ami priviitc lan'ls as wi-ll, unilcr a new -ystem of siii'vi'y wjiich (Icran^-'c^il, witiiont explanation at all, tin- e.\i«tin.!| orili'i' of tli'DL's, anl ilistui'lieil witiiont scrii|ile the oM settlers in the peacetiil anil leiial iiossc-sion of ilieii' lanil.s. '1 14!.' So, Sir. you see tliiit tlic ericvjiiiceH of tlic luilt- Ijvceds iit that time were two-l'old. They ('oiiiiiiiiiiicd fii'ril thiit Caiiaihi had taken pussessiim of their couii- try without rc8|ieet t'or their rijihtn as a iteojile ; and tliey cnniphiined, in tlie second place, that theliov- enniient, liy tlioir system ol' survey, hiid invtided iheir actual possessions and properties. Well, they rehelled ; they could not stand this ; and the coiiso- i|uence of this rehellion, whiitever it may have heen otherwise, was that the (iovernnient were I'oreed to grtint tothe halt-hreeds what they had denied hitherto, that is, the (iovernnient aidcnowledged their riifht of sovereignty in the land hy the distrilmtion of 1.4(1(1.000 acres among them, in extinguishment of the Indian title, and al)iindoncd the old system of survey juid iidopted anew systeai by which the holdings nf the half-lireeds were respected. Now, it might htive heeu hoped thiit the experience of the past would have made the (tovernment more cautious, and would have taught them to treat a highly sensitive ])eoi)le like the hali'-l)reeds with something like ' fairness and consideration. Indeed, tlie (lovernment seem to he just like the Uourhons, who, according to Napoleon, neither learned nor forgot anything ; in this mtitterthe (iovernnient &eem not to have learned anything or forgotten anything. I say the ]ir(!sent (iovcrnment are far more open to cen.surc for tlie uprising on the « • 1 t 1 >* , I !■ I: ■ I (i.\ Ti!K N(»i;Tii-\\ K.-T i; i;i;Ki.i h 'N •>-i" Sa-katclicwati Uivor llmii llioy were t'of tin; uin'i-injj; (111 tlic l{f(l iJiviT. tlililty ;m tlicy were in I^<;'.»t'ur tlieir trealiiKMit ulllif liall'-lircods mi the Ilcil llivcr, tliin. at least, niiulit Im" saiil in attcnnation. tliat \\\vy liail ui> time tn (jiarjic llicir policy — that tiic rt'lirllion r^liraiifx ui> im tliciii lid'urc llioy had time to irtracc thcif ^[(■\>:- Mild coiTi'c t ihc ctroi'-s whiidi more ( auiioii at tlic i'Ut:-i'1 ini'^^ht have averted. I'.ut i>n this pro- >i>tit I ii'cMsii III i r mi I lions of i li il hi i m h.'i vc I iccii i\ in'inli'il at -cut o( witiiiii a lew p i; 2-jr. SrEKCIl the siiiiic iinxit'ty iind iii.'mIc tlic miiuc cluiiiia a*' the Imlt'-lirocilH on the Uccl Uivcr had ddiii'. I luivc shown you tluit tin; <hiinM ol' the hall'-hrt'cds on thi' Ili-d Ilivcr were two-f ihl— they chiiniod that tlicir rii^htn to llie rioil .-ihouhl he r('coy;ni/.('d in some niauncr and they wt'i'o roco^rnized ; iind they iiskod tlmt they nhouhl not he troiildcd in tlioir holding;.-", and 11im-c chums wore conciMh'd to tlicni. As soon a.n tlic Cana- dian (iovcrnnient attoniptcd to assert their nutliority on tlie Saskateliewan River, the liall-hiccds there made I'xactly tliu.-ame ehiims. At t hi- outset tiiey demanded Noi'iiiNi; Moi;i; oi; i.i:s.- tlia)i tliat their rijilits to tlie soil ami tlieir ri;rld.s in tlie extin},aiisiiment ot' till' Indian title sliould he rt- (■o<fni/.e(l and that the lands they held they pIiouUI lio allowed to continue to hold without disturhance. Willi re<;aiil to the first ([Uestion. >rr. Speaker, T am not aware. tliou;jli the honoialile ,^cntle- iiian .-aiil to the contraiy yesterday, that the liall- hrecds ol' Saskatchewan IJiver ever loi'iiiulated any demand as to lands heioro the year ls7>^.or the last days of ] ^"7. The honorahlo uontleman said that demaiul.s iiad oceii made to the ( iovernnieiit of my lioiioraMe friend I'liim JCa.st York (Mr. Mackenzie). I helieve that some deniiinds from the (iirAppelle district ■wore made hel'oro ISTS. hut no (lciii;;nd. po I'ar as T am aware from the hank.-i of the Saskatchewan, came to the (loveriinient hefoi'c 1S7>i; and the reason is ohvious. The countiy had just only heen ojiened for .oettlement: the ( iovernmont had Mot attemiited to e.xercise authority over tlu' territory for more than ".years; Mr. l.aird. who was the lirst Lieutenant-f iov- eriior. was a|iiioinled in 1<S7(>, and he only readied I'.attlel'ord in 1877 ; in fact.it took him several months f)f travel to get to the seat of .c:overn]nent at Mattle- ford. Tn 1.S77, a jietition was formulated liy the half- hreeds, and it ran as follows : Your iietitiouors would liuiaMy ronic-ciit that tlicir ii,i.'lit.s II; ■; fiN TIIK N(iI;TII-\\ K.ST liKllKI.I.H 'V •227 ton )iaitici]intinii in tlio i^-^iic nf liivlf'-hrcoils' or old «ottloi'<' hiMii' iin- iiH \Mli'l Mii'l liiti'lin;.' us tlmso of the liftH-liict'ils iiinl olil -fttld's ol Miiiiitiiliii, ami iiio <'.\|i(H'tiMl liy tliciii to he icj;.'iidi'il 111 scni|>uli)ii-ly a- in tliat I'luvinco ; ainl witli a vit'W to till' ailjiistiiiriit ol'llic Hamc yniir pclitiuncr- wniiM hiuiil'ly n'i|iit'st that a ccii.sus ol saiil liaH'-ltrt't'iis ami old M-t tiers he lak(!n at us oarly a dato as may l)i> conveniently deti-r- juined upon, with ii view to appoi'tionin;: to those of them, Avho have not ali'eiely heen ineluded in tin" eonsiis ol' M.niitol'a, llieir jil-t allcitiiieiil- of liiiul and -eri)). Tlicn. 8(11110 liiiu; ill tlie niontli uf F(diru;iry. ii dc- ]iutatiii!i ciiiiK' rruiii Si. l-aiirent In iiittTvii'W Mr. Liiinl iilnuit the sjiiuo matter, iijid they iircsciitedhiin ii pctilidii. iiiakin^j; in suli^^lancc the ."aiiic (IciumihI. Tills |ietiti(ni \V!H luldn^rfscd, not [n llio ( iovcrnnient of Oltiiwii. liut to tlu' Liciitoniint-dovoriior liiiii«c'll'; lie referred it to IiIh I'oiuicil ; the council did not ,>^it until tiie rollowiii;,' luontli ol" Auji;ii.«t ; iind in that uioiilli tlic council adoidi'd tiuM't'solution wlijcji hns lioeii M'veral tinH'.-! nuotcd vcsterday, wlieieliy the claiiiir! of the iiall'-lireeds for an a|i|iorliii|iiiieiit of land were i>!'esenliMl favoraldy to the (iovernnieiit at (Mtawa. The !'e.-oluLi<iii ran as follows ; — Th.'it in view ol the laet tiiat .L'laiits of bind and i-.sues ot scrip were made to the hallhreeds of Maiiitoha towards the extin,:;iiislinient nl the Indian title to the lands of that piov inee, there will nndoiihiedl.\' he L'eneial dissati.-faction amonv' the hall'hreeds of the.said Territorios unless they receive .-oni" lik. "iisideratif When Mr. r>aird vi.sited iHick Lake settlcniont in tlie l'ollowiii;j; month id" Seiitemlmr. he was aL^•lin interviewed hy a deputation of the St. Laurent setile- iiient,.'ind they asked him particnlar.s as to what had liocome of their petition, and what treatment it had received at the liands of the ( lovernmont. Mr. Laird explained that, the eouiull haviii,t;- sat only in .\u;jtist, the ( iovernment had not vet had time to consider their application. t; lev were 228 rPEECH r^lPI SATI>I-IK!i WITH THE EXri.ANATKi.V, uril tli(.Mrsii(ikt'siiKin covli'illy tliiiiikfd tlic f.icuUiiaul,- (ioveriKir fur tliukiiid iii;i:inc'i- in wiiicli lie had rei)lied to tliC'ir en luirics. Tlie luiU'-lireedf*. il uiu^-t lie said, disitlaycd >n that mcasinii a innst genlh; spirit ; tht-y t'oiUd iKit liavc a'tcd witli greater j)r(i))i'iety. Then eanie the fall of the Miiel<( n/.i(! (iuveriiiiieiit and a, new (ioveviiiueii'i came into power, the (iovi inhieiit of the lioiioral)le f ('iilh'ni;:n dpposile. Tu \>~\>. the (loveriiineiit tool, power to deal with tiie half-lireeds in the same nianiir)' as the former (iovernment took power lo (hal with the half-hreed-^ of the lied IJiver, and alter the maniKr suggested hy the Noith-W'est Council ; that is to say. the (iovernment took lK>\^•l'r lV>v ti'c e.xtingtiishment of the Indian title, in so far as it was vested in the hali-hrcids. I'el'ore going fiir- th"r. it is approjiriate lliat Me should at onf e. iniuder to lix the resi)onsihilit_\ of the (iovernment in tliLs matter, refer to the \vhol(! legislation on tins jioint ; the Act of JS7(». which was the first Act. die Act of 1^74. which van the second Act. and then the Act of iSTli, to see exactly what was the piu'port and theoh- ject and the cause of til" lerislation then ]iut uiion the statute Ixudc. The Act of 1>>7<' ran as follows : — m And wlicieas it is oxpodieiit, towards the extiiiuui.-ljnii'iit oltlii* India'.) title to die lauds in the J^ioviiuH'. loaiipi(ij)i iate a ]i'ii tioii ot fucli implant. mI laixls, to tl (^ extent ot 1 ,-Joo.nni) acn s tliereol. fni- the licnetit ol tlr' lainilies ol tlie Jiair-liret'il ie.-.iileiits. it is iiei'ebj- enacted, tliat, niider ii'.L'ulatioi>s !■ lie from time to time nuuh' by tlie (iovtinor Ceneral in t'onncil, tile Licntenant-tievenior sliall selivt siu ii lots cr tracts in stirli j)art>i<)t' liie Province as lie may deem fxpeilieiit to tins extent aloresai<l. and diviiie tlic same amoii.;: the cliildreii of tlHdiaIf-t>reed heads of families lesidiii^i: in llie i'ro\ine(> at tlie time ditlii' .T.iid Iran.-ter to Canada. So tl'. ohject of tlie Act is perfectly e^ear ; it is an alloti.ieiii ^f land to the extent of i. l(i(t,(H)(> acres for the avowed ])urpose of dividing the same mm I ON THE N(".;TII-\VEsT l;Fi;i;i.l.!nN 1221) aiuon^' the cliiMfPii nf the liond.s oi ii;ill'-lii'<'('il l';i luilios, towards liic extiiuruisliiufut ortlit- ru'liaii title. Tiifii. tlie Ad of 1S7 I lau as lollows ; — Wlii'iciis, by till- Mist section of tlic Act '-V-'i N'ii'toria. cli;ii>tfr '■'>, it was eiiiictnl a- cxin' linit tnwar Is tiic I'xtiiiL'iiUii- iaLait oF tilt- Imliun titlr tu the huils in tin' i'roviui'i' nlMaui- tn'oa. to aiH'ro|)riate one million ioia- iinmliiMl tlioiis.in'l acr<-'s I't'stich laii'ls, lor tla- Vicnt'lii of tin- cliihlren of tin.' JuiH-la-i'oil iii'a'ls (it fasailit's rcsiilini.' in til'! i'rovini'p at the time of the tran-i't'r lin'i'col lo <_'ana'la, : ani! '.vlii-ii'as no iiri)\i~lon lia-^ t'oen uiailc for exiiairui^hinix the hiijian title to -.lu-li iaa-ls as lespccts till' hall' iii't'e'l IhmkIs of faaiilios ri'-iilini? in tin- I'ro- ■'.inci' at tli(! )i('rioil nanieij : and wliei'cas it i> oxjiclient to niiskii sucii [novision. anil it is ilei'iut'il alvisablo to cttVot tlu> Sana' liy irrant of lanil or liv an i-sm; ot -ci'iii rclci'iaalilt- in .Uoniiiiion lanils. Tlerr'. aiiain. tlic same .s|iirit is- a]i|iai'enl. tlu^ same oliject is avoweil. The uTtuit is mailc in extin- yitisliment itt'tho Iiidiati title,iii .m I'ar as it \va.' vestr-d ill tlie liall-lireeds : and in 187U the Act pass-^d hy lionorahU' gentlemen oiiposiie upon this (|ueslion enmted as toHow.r : — The ( toveiaunent lau e |io\vei' to -ati-'V any claims exi-tinir in ooma'ction with till' extiiiiini^hinent of the Inhaa title. JiretV'lTeil l)y half-hl-eeiis re^iilelll in the N'ortll- \Vi-:,t 'Tc. litorie., f)iitsido of the limits of Manitolia, oii llui lifteentli d.ay ol .hily, oiu! thousand eijxlit haiidreil and seventv. hy L'fantinjr land to siii'li |iersoiis, to sueli extent and nii such tei ni- and I'ondition-; as may lie deemed (.'xnei-lieiit. So there cannot l>e any amhii:'uitv. I'r ivision was introdnced it: the hist statute iiy hmioralile (fen- tlemen opposite tliein«elvi- u ith the expicss ohjcet ol" extinLniishin<r the Indian tith vesteil in the lialt- hreeds. Tliis .\el .\EVi:i; WA- I'lT l.\ I-OIME, ii3 i)rovisions never were (■arri<'d out. What wa- tlie retistm? We do not Icnow vet. The (ioverninent never _1 'ir,o i«PEECII ti)l(l us; I do nut believe the (iovcrnnient kiiou- thoiD^elvos the reason. Ihit il wns iiiipDrtaiit that this iJi'ovision should be nctfMl upon. As early as IST'K th(; (ioverninent a])])()inte<l .Mr. Davin to luako a report \\\)nn the matter. It doe.s not ap[iear lie ever reported, but it appearr^ that several intluential per.'^ons in the Territorie.'^, among them Archbi.sho]) Tacln', were consulted on the matter. Upon the imi)Oi'tance ot" at once dealinji; fairly and jfenerour^ly with the halt-breeds. Ili3(;ra(f' .\rehbishop Tacln' wmte as follows : — It ]aust lio tri'oly .■chnutcil tliai tlio liull'-hrooiU ol tlio Xortli- West liavc a, claim t'l rav<irahlo oonsidoratioii. (iieat uneasiness i< I'dt l>y tlioiii in <'ou<oi|uenc,e ol no sti'|is havini^ y<'t bdt'ii tal<i'n in tiioir l)ehait'. A liheral policy on tin- )paiL of the I iciverniiuMit wotiKl attract to it< side a luoral aiiil I'liy- .sical power \vhii'li in the present critiial ^elation^ ol tln^ various trilies oi' Indians towards eacli other and towards the (tovernnionl. wouM i)rove ol the ,i.'i'eatest value to tiio Jioini- nion. < hi the otiiei' hand tiio lialtl)reed element, il dis-;atis- lied, would form a standniix menace to the peace and prosper- ity of the Territories. There is no doubt that the stateolulfairs in the Territories in Kdation to the hidians and half-hieeds is eallini.' lor the serious consideration ol' the < iowrnnu'iit. and measures should lie adopted Id cidtivate ami maintain rel:'- tioiis with the liairiiieed population calculated to attract them to u> '\'hv liall'-lirccMls ar(> a hi,i;hl>' sensitive race; they k< t'uly (•-•sent injiuy or insult, and daily comi>Iaiii on that point. In lact they are daily iuimiliated with re;_'ard to tin ir oiijiin Ii\ the wa.y they ire spoken el, not oiiiy in new-pajii.'rs, but al.'^o in otlicial and scmi-olliiial dncuinents. .Mr. (iirouard:— What is tlie date of Ihaf.' .Mr. Laurier: — .fanuary, 1^7'd. Then at ihc same time. TIIK .\l;elll',lsilii|' s|-,,,,i.:,,'i-KI> .\ I'I..\.\" to the (hivernmeiit. Ho .suggested that a certain tract of land be apportioned to them. lie goes on to .say : Ml the halldjreeds, men. women and children. re>idins in li ON THE NuIiTII-WKsT ItKr.El.I.ION 23J til" .\ortli-\V(\--t on thi^ 1st •Jami.ii'y, 1 ^7',), 0!i:.'lit to i'0;;eive tw.") nnn-iietrotiiilile stirips lor SO niu'cs ol' hiuil c u^li. to ho io'^uteil IpV them in oni- ol' tiie twelve uhovi'-meniiotu'il reserves, saiil lands to be neitluT sojil, niortg;i:.'ivl. nor taxoil niitil tlu-y sliMiiM iiave jfiisscd tlnou;.di tlie 'ianils of ai Icii-t tlie tliiivl generation ol' those who receive thoni or of tln'ir rejuesen- tative-. Tlii.s w'iiH tho i)liin suggested by ArclibishopTiiclit' to tlu; Giivi'rniueiit to ailo[)t. The (loveriimeut did not adopt it : they wouhl not adopt it ; tiie right liuuor- aljle geiitleiuau said he would not adopt it. What was the reason? The honorable gentleman stated yester- day thai he would not adopt the [/Ian of Arehbishop Taehe, l>eeause, forsooth, tlu; plan of Arcdd)ishop Ta- elu': would have made the hali-ljreeds wards of the (iovfrnment ; he would rather trust to them ; he had a [dan of his own for their settlement, for their estab- lisiiment. What was that |)lan of his own '.' Where was it? When was it exeeuted ? When was it -howii to the eountry ? Where was it oublishiMl? Whe" was it eominunieated to the hall-breeds themselves? Sir, 1 believe the right hunoralth' gent leman, wImmi iie says he had a [)lan for the settlement of the half-l;reed elaim.i, is boasting — it is a vain and idle boast. The hoiuji'able gentleman never had any ]>la;i at all for the settlement of tin; half breeds, or if he had any. it was ju-^t like the |)lan i'\' (oMU^-al Troi-hu to oom|)ei th(M iermans to ra'se the siege of Paris ; il was a tin(; plan, aceordingto him, Imt no one one evr saw. it. he never atteni[)tetl to exeeule it : ami the lionoiabje ti'eiitleman's [dan is in the same manners. And, mni'e than that, T say tiint ii'lhe (Jovernment <Iid not carry out the plan of Ui-hop Taehi-. did not setth' the claims of the inilf-breeds, it i:^ iieeau-eihe Crime .Min- ister was 0|iposeil, in i)rin<'i|ile and in [iractiee to the extinguishment ofthe 1 ndian title, in so far a- ii is vesteil in the half-lo'eeds. T say that tiie reason wliy tiie (iovernment have not, from 1S7'..' to ISs."). settled the elainis of the iialf-lireeds to a grant ot' laml. is 7 "i^ ' r hn H r,.t f^ f^* ■r > M 232 sTEKt ir pimply liecavisi.' tlio I'rimo Miui.-U.'r lield ll,at tliclinll'- ))rf'('(lrf ">VKl;l-; NdT K.\TlTl.l':i' * 1 n In to a special Li'i'aiil <<( la.uii. and this I can ]iriivc oiii of .lii>: I'wii iiKUilli. X'tt later than llic-Ji'ith Marcli, the .i'rimc .Minister, spcakinu- upnn this vci'y nur-tinn. exjiressi-Ml liiiiisell'as I'mUows ; — A- a wliolc. tlic> liuirKr.'O'ls iuivc l."cii tn!<l tliat il' tln-v 'Icsii'' to Kr coilslih'Tcil :i> hi liiili.-, tllfi'i' ;irc nio>t !il)!T;il ic- sci-\i'- ilial tlu'V coiiidiTf) til witli the ntlnTs; liut tliat il tlioy • Ic^iii"! to !>(> roM>i(k>n'il \vhuc iinai, tlu-y oouM ;.'ct h'lH ;i;mi-» of l;ni 1-; us lioiiu'st(\'iils. lint tln'\ arc not satisllcil witli f hat : tlicy wiuit to :,'<'t Inn i s.M'iji ()rei|U,il (|ii;uitiry — I tliiiik llll^\■a^ll - oi' :2i II I acres — ■v.)'\ tlnai L"'t, us a matti-:' "' fmivsc. ilieii- lioim'- stea'ls a< well. Sir. tliis was tlic policy to which the li.uinrahlo ii'eutlenian ohjecjcil. that the hall'-hrei-,l,s sIcniM <^o\ their uTant ut' lands in extin^iiisiiineiit ol" the Indian title, and then he ;it liherty to .settle on the lands in tlu> North- W'c-Jt. That principle, tn which the honor- aldo naaitlenian ohjoct(!d. is the very prineiph- whicli luif* heou admitted in our statute Ijooks ever since 1570. Acc'ordin'j; to the Act of IST'J. and the Act of 1571. whic.i completed it. an allotnu'iit of land was made U> the halt' hrcedrt fdmplv in c>\lin;iiii-jhment o|' the fndiau title, and the hail'-iireel. al'lcrhehad re- ceivt'd the scrip I'm- hi.s laiul in exting'uishmeut ol'the Indian title, was ;!t liherty. as evei'y nther suhjeot.and even ;h evei'V iMrei^'iHT. to i^o to the North-West ami lionn'-tead upon uny land, and claim it as his own. JJut the h'liiorahle u-euth>mau would not ,uive that ti> th(> h dfd>reed. Ta taet, he .said, as liite as the 2hth of March last, that the half-hreed.s were askini;' tu liave li'i'l acres o[ 1 and. the suine as t'verv liomesteadet and liesides th'it '2i)f) acres for the extinu-ui«hment of their Inilian title, and to this he ohjected : and this then. Sir, is the reason why, iVnm 1S/>1 to ISS."), the i>.\ THE N''>i;tii\vi:st ikhkijiox .-)'>o lialt'-lirecil (lur'stidii lui-! nnt liccn dralt with li\- the liouoralilc ;^'rnliciiian. I .sav ■nil-; I'oi.K Y (i|- TiiK i.i)vr:i;NMi;NT. as imlicatcil in tiic stal n!i' 1i(>m1<. lias I'ccii that ihc liall-hrced.^ wt-ic ciitillcd. just a* iniicli a~ the rndiaiis, tit the (■xtiii.tiuishiirciil ni' tlic iiidian tith'. hut 'AH M liitf iiicii. iii,-ti>ad nf takin!.M-i)i,i]i('n-nti<)ii I'^y thi'ir Indian titli^ cnllociivriy. llioy wc'c aUowcd to take it individually, and tiial is the only difrcrcncc lictwecn tlK'ii! and the lndian<. sii far as ilw cxt ini^'uisliniciit "I'thf Indian title was concetMKMl. Ami. i- land .--uch a scarce arti(de in the Xnrth-W'c-t '.' Have uc \ii<\ an altundaiicc of lf!;:d in t he NiMth-Vi'esi :' And will we f-'erinu-ily i'c told that it was not jr.st ny I'air that the lialt'-lircedp should he allotted a lot oi'the wiile land? of the .North-West while the sani(> privileLics had heen •rranted to the hall'-hreeds in Manitoha? What iv^ason could there he i'or not jidvinL' to the hall'-hreed-^ on the Sa-'I<at(die\v;vn the very same ju'In ile;;'es and I'i'.dit- uhich had oeen liiven to the hall'-hreeds on the Ited Ivivci''.' ,\-) my hoixM'al.le friend said yesterday, is not justice the same everywlien — u|ion the Saskatchewan as upon the iLed Ulver? If the hall'-hreeds on the Ued J liver wei-e u'i ven a s[iecial Li' rant of land in extin'j-ui-h- menl i the Indian title, did not jusliee dennind that the same [irivileires and riu'hts sliouhl he ^iven t" the halt'-iD'eed-' \ij»or, th.e Saskatchewan Uiver? The <dlieers oi'the (iovernment in tlie .\'orth-^\'e't Terri- tories, the NtM'tli-W'er-t Council, the settlers them- selves, were more jxeuerous to the hall'-hreeds than the ritiht honorahle <i-entleman. .Vuaiu and aiiain the ]ieo|ile of the Xorth-Wesi called the attention of the ( lovernnient to this. I have alreadv quoted the reso- lution of the eouuidl [)assed in 1>^7*.> upon that (|ue-- tion. .\e-ain. in ISSI, Mr. Clai'ke. a memher of the councii. presented a resolution : — Tliat the hall'-lirceds liavi^ ah\;iy.< Ih^'Ii reeou'ni/.''d u- pe-- ses>ini.' rigiit- ni tiie -uaie.-oil. buliject to wiiidh th.' i)ipaiiii!''ti n ''fi 2?A •PEECH 1^ i; r aco.'pti'il tli<' traiistor of tin* tc'iM'itnrics, !iti'l wliii.' ami>li' jiio- vi.^ion has hi'<n iikhU' lor those r.vsidciit in Manitoba, on the ]")tli ■July, i^T", notliin:,' has hi'cn ilono towai'ils (^xtiniruisliin^ that poition o!' tlic hnlian tith' to lamls and tfiritorics out- siil<! tho i)roviiiC(^ olManitolia, as oriirinaily fornn'il l'\ the Act of ISTO. TIh'U he goer! on to say tlitvt THE SA\!K TIlINO Slloll.li III: 1 m i.NK \'>>y llic liiiir-hrcpils ill tlio North-W'e.st TiTfitory. I lielifvc the cmncil passed a r(;.solution upon tliis. and iransiiiittcil il to the (iov<M'ninent, hut tlio (iovcru- nn'iil paid no h.ecil to it. iiator on the j)eiipU' ol'tiic North-West Territory hehi inoetin;.:;^ antl i)assed reso- lutions iidvocatiiif;- tlie very same course in favor of the hall'-lireeds. A meeting took phice at St. .Mhert, ill Oi'toher ol'lliat year, whei'e it was resolved ; — Whereas the Indian title in this distriel or tei'ritorv lias not lieen'f'xtiiiL't, and t lie old settlers and h ilf l>ri>e(l iiojiiilation in .Manitoba have been trrantod scrip in enneiiutatioii of sneh title, and sneh allowance has not been niadt? to the fi'-idents in this teri'itoiv. resolved that the h'lLrlit Honorable the .Mini-ter of ttif! Interior be ie(|uested to irrant such scrip ti) sneh set- tk'rs, thns placing' them on ;in equal footing with their eon- fi-ere< in .^^anitoiJa. This resolution was transmitted to the (inveiai- loent hy Mr. Charles Nolin. There was an answer from the (iovernment which was (luite in keeping with the principle enunciated yesterday hy the right leinorahh' geiitliMuan. The answer was as lollows ; — it, sill lit i, It .Vm :; — .\s liy treaty \'>itli the Indians, their title 10 any portion of the Ten ilory inclnded witliin th(> I'i-- triet of i.orne iia^ been extinguished, this iH'solution wonhl neecj explanation. Well. Sir. tlnit was transinitti.'d to the people of the .\oi'th-W"St. .Mr. Clarke, who had lonked into ox TIIK NDirni-WEST Ki;i!EI.Mi>N 235 the '.natter, sent a couiilusivo answer, settini; I'ortli ;ill the Icgiflliition from 1S7 J to 1S7'.>. ami .sliowins con- clusively that the policy tjt'this (iovernment luul heeii the extin;j;uisliment of the Indian titles in favor of the half-l-d'ecil-^. Then re,solutii»ns were also pasHeil l)y the jieojile in favor of the .same policy, hut all withotit avail. At last Riel wa^? sent for iiml lirought into the connti'v. ;inil it wonld Hcem that then at lea.^t the ( iovernment would have yielded what they had so I'iir refused, r.lT STII.I. TllKV .\!oVi:l> NoT. • -ni x\nd when did they move? At the time, as was shown hy my honorahle friend ye.stenhiy. when the r('I)elliou was ripe in the Xorth-We.'-t Territories on the -li'Ah January, they did something ; and what was it ? They .sim[ily asked for a censu??. At that time they h;id no policy upon the matter. When they issueii the Order in Council on tiie i-'fUh .Tanmiry. 1 ss."), to take a census of the half-hreeds in the North-West, at that time tin y Iiad no pidicy. hecause. as I have shown l»y tlie lan<i-uaii-e the nyht hono ral ) L'-enth'imui. on the 'JCith -March following-, he wonld not acknowledge that tlie half-hreeds W('re entitled to a S[)ecial urant in extinuuis'iment ot'the Indian title. Fie 8imi)ly pretended, that they had no more rights than the ordinary settlers ; that all they could do wa- simply to go on to the lands unsettled and lake up a home- stead or preemption, and nothing more: so that at that ver}' lime, on the "Jtith March, the ( iovi'mment liad no policy whatever. j!ut. Sir. -onicthin::- took place then which gave the (iovernment a [lolicy. and what was it? Sir. "ii the very day the honorahlc -en- tleman wa~ -M.,king here in this llous<\ when he stat«-iJ th.'.t tiie half-l>reeds of the North-West h;id no morf risilits than the ordimii-y -settler, that all they could a-k t'or \\a- a humeslcnd or iireemptinn. (in tli:'t very day the hudr at I>uck Lake was going on; iiu-ii the l.iuilets of the l>uck Luke light did laoi'e to ;i ''■'':^ 2;;(; >-ri:K( If 111 settle llii- (j\ie-tii>n tli;in six Inn;;- yeiir.J oi' |)r;iyei'S and petitidU.- Iiail ilmie. Six lou:^ yeai'i of (.•niHlaut peti- tioiiiiio; hail I'aileil to secure justiee Inr these people, had I'aih'il t'l procure a remeily ol'the .u'l i'-vaie-e- of wliieh they (•<iiiiplaiiieih hul I'lIK lUl.l.KT.- i)|.- I.li K l.AKl': iiiiiiieiliate'.y -^et the ( iovefniiie)it iu niotiu;; ainl iiuiiieiliiitoly hroui,flit them to term-. On the ',VH\\ Mat'eli, I'our (hiys al'teruard-i. thi' ( iovei'iuiieut came down with an < )rder in (,"ounfil in which, for tlie lii'-^t tine', the ri.irhlS nf l he half-hreed-^ were tn -inm" extent aekuowledu'ed. Ni>t eiMuph'tely ai'knowledu'e.h li"W- cver ; iiy tliis ( )i'di!r in Council the half-hreed- were allowi'il a certain :;■ rant of hind. not. howevei'. in extin- .tiuishmenl ol'tlo' liidian title. \>\\\ with cnndition- of sett h'ment. Tiien commi^-imnM'- were appointed and pi'oct'eded tn the di-^turhed districts. ()ne uf the eomniissioiH'rs. Mr. Street, heinii; on the spnt. InnkinL;' at the matter, advised the ( lovei'iimeiit that it was ueci'-.-ai'y in (O'der to satisfy these peojile to ^'ive them a s[iecial ;:rant ol' laud, tlio same as had heeu ,!i'iv<Mi til tin' h.alt'-hreeds iu Matiitolia. irrespective of cuiii lit ions of seitlenu^ni ; ami since t hat tinu\ forsooth, the ciunmissiiiners have heen disti'ihutiug scrip ainnnu'-it the halfiireeds in North-West Territory. .\t last .Ml'. S|ieaker. these men who iiave ht-eii petition- inu' for that siiecial Lia'ant over since 1S7S and who up to .March. InS.'). could mif ohtain it — at last they =ue- ceede.l in their requosi. Still. Sir, jintici' is (h>uhly just ;ind douhly pi'cciou^ wiien it is freelv and 'jenily i:iven. hut jusiice loses most of its value when it is tardily and ■i'rud'finii-ly conceded as it was on this occasion. Kven last niii'ht the honovalile ii-entleman would not say that, in so doinu'.tho (iovernment wi-re diiimr justice to the halt'-hrei'ds of .Manitoha : he would imt say that he rei'oiiiii/.ed their rights: he simply said that he wouhl doit, and diil it I'nr the sake ol' peace. For the sake of peace, when wi- were ii.v iiiK N(ii!Tii-\\ i->r i;i:i;ki.i.ihn III i1m tiii(l-t ni' war: for tin' <\\kf nl' iica (•(' w hell iiir-lli"i<'iits were in tin' lH' ami will 11 \A niM I liail lil'Cll •shed 1 l)(j('H till' liDiii'ialile ;/ciitl('iiiaii sr.i>|in.-c that tins tardv ('(iiicc ■ imi will cniicilialc tiic Icoiin liai ■ hrciM Is? Ni t lu' lri''lliL;' that will icinaiii ill their hcart:^ will he, that they were ilciiieil ihcir riiihts whih' they ciiiirnu'il thcin.-i'lvc.-- \n pctitiniiiug hir tht.'Ui. hut as sddn a~ they t(Hi|< u|) TlIKll! Hi. II l;l>rN Ml-KlOT^ tliev hrmight the < iovcrniiKMit to their kin'c- and seciircil what ctiustitutiniial luoaiis cduld iiut uhlain. This is the t'celinii' which will rcinaiii in the luart- of th(' hall'-hrccils. It is the sain; with rc,i2ai d ti'tln' tun'iiunu'ralcd claims in Manitnija. There were ii certain nuniher dI' halt'-hree<ls wlm had imi hecn eniuncraled in Manitoha. wlm had also u ri;j,ht to a special grant ol' land. They j)etitioned the ( lovern- nu'iit : the North-West Council also iiolitinned the (ioverninent, the iViends ol'the ( ioverninent in the North-West jtetitioned. and all without avail. Jiut t)n tiie -Ith April, atter the rehellion liad lieeii raging for some time, tlie (ioverninent again caine [o their knees and granted to threats and violence what had been rel'used to petitions and prayers. In I'act. the (ioverninent liave not even the courage ot' FalslatF. for. if T reniemlier rightly. Fal^taf^ .'r^aid that : "• Were reasons as plentiful as herries, I would not give a reason upon compulsion. " lUit the ( ioverninent would not givi' aiivthing except upon compulsion. They resi.sted the prayers anil petitions of the settler-, hut when the settlers came with arms in their liaiul.-. the (ioverninent immediately yieldedand granted their requests. Sir. there was. as T said hefore, another claim wliich was made hy the half-hreeds - it was that tliev should not he disturlietl in their holdiniis. It was tiiat they were to he alhiwed to occupy their holdings sucli as they were, and keej) them on without mokstation. The (i(jvernment had adopldl the Anie* m m ■?^AH i m 1 < 'K SPiS SPEKCII liciin, tlic> rcct!in<:ul!ir. syht<'iu of sdivcyitiu. mikI ii very gond syfitciu it is — I liiivc not a word tn siiy !it;aiii."*t it — liut it sceuis nothing but i'iiir and ri).dd timt wlicrc tJH'rc Imd liceii scttlfincnt in iidvniicc id" Burvcy.-;, the ( !i)vcrnineiit should liav(> arkiiow Icd^cd that riut.iuid tht.' surveys should liavc licfh luiido acc'M'dini; to the settlements. Ft is characteristic of all l""i'cn<'li settlements in Anu'rica that they have all been made' upon the hanks of rivers and all the lands di\ ided sothat Ww ]ieo]ile ran live close to one a not her. That i.s a feature of the l-'reiich race. The Fi'^neh vac<;. it will he adndtteil without dis])ute. is ol a more soeiahle disposition than tiio Teutonic race. The characterir-tics ol'the two races aro di.stinctly marked in Lower Canada. In Lower Canada, il' y(ui no throuirh an (dd country settlement you will find tlie farm houses scattered in all directions, wherever is most convenient for the farmer. Tliey may he one inilo or more apart ; hut the moment you u'o into the French s-ettlonients you will (ind all tiie larm houses on the road side, all within a stone's throw of one another, so as to afford the people easy and constant {iommunicalion. In fact, the people ol' Lower Canada. in all the l'"rench settlements, are in constant and (hulv coniinunication. ■nils Is A ( llAliACTEIMsTIi' I' not oidy (d' French .settleuients in Lower Canada, hut of all French settlements in America, it is the same in old France. The rural population in F'rancc chiet'- ]y dwell in handets. and in Lower Canada as close to one another as tlu^ circumstances of the country will allow. And 1 found this feature in the old .\cadian Rettlemeiits in Nova Scotia. Tn Kini^'s ciu^.idry. for instam e. in the old classic land of Fvanueline. there Avas a settlement in the old days that was called Ilieiere aux Canards, there the I'arms have heeu settled in narrow strip-; all are close to each other. and the settlement is called to-dav. so far a- I kr.ow, tiN Tin: N<ii:rii-\\ i;.-r i;i.r,Ki.i.i(>N liy tlic sii;:u('-^tivo iiainc (';iii;iri| Street. I'liiit, iii the cvra (tl'tlic |io|)uliiti(iii. I'cpiesiiitH ii street innrt' tliiiu 111) orilinary lann s^ctllcinciit . Tin' advent iiicrs uIimkO) Idtiiid iKiw runs in the vein- nl the liairdiicfd ikpiiuIii- tiiin in tlie Ntutli-W'ei-t. eainc iVdiii i'"i'ance and Lnwcr (.'aiiada. The sanio trait cxi*!-' anKUiL: them. 'I'l If ail-lireed |>i>|iiilal mn m tlic Noith-We.-t t I •-(lav whticvcr tlicv liiivc a H I neiiieiil. iiavr tal^cii their lauds IN l•:\'.\(.'TI.^■ IIIK s.WII. WAV as have all the Kreiieh iMi|iulati(in. wliethcr un the hanks (if the St Lawrence, in Acadia or in Louisiana. When the < niVei'liiiient took liossessioii (tithe Nortli- \\'esl they ioiiiid those settleiiHlits on the Sas- kateiiewan Liver in exactly the same lashioii a- all other French i-etl leinents. The land.s were divided into narrow strips, and the rariiis wen; all clo-e upon one anothei. Was it aiiythiiijj; hut riizlit and fair that tlie holdin^is of tlm-c peo[de should he respected ; tiiat the lands which had heeii divided hy the people ainoiiLi' thein-clves should not lie interrci'ed with, and that the r('tran,uviiar surveys should uive uay so soon as they eanie inconlact with sett lenient-. This wa- the policy follow e(| hy the lionol'aMc iiiem- her for Uothwell (.Mr. Mills) when he was in charjio of the Lepartnient of the Interior. 1 noticed yester- day that the l"'irst .Minister, when headdresse(l liini.self to this puliject. jiassed rather jicntly, liiihtly and sweetly over it. ilcMlid not .say much ui)on ii. lie inere;y said that the honoralde ineiniier for Lolhwcll. when at the head of the nepartment. had not Leen .so diliirent as he misht have heen. lUU he extolled hif< own aetivity. He said that the ( lovernment of w hi( h lie was a niemher had displayed the iireate-t dili,i:-ence in the matter. .Not only did the honorahle Lrentlemen make that douhle assertion, hut he >aid he wnuld lirove; it. i\nd then, with a somew hat ostentatious iuanner, he took a map and had laid it on the Talde. m • ir. \l Ji IMAGE EVALUATION TEST TARGET (MT-3) /. // V ^ '^< % .% C/j '"i^ W.r V. 1.0 I.I IP 112.5 .• JIM ilU IIIII2.2 iii 2.0 1.8 1.25 1.4 1.6 ^ iJ, _ ► V] <? /a ^/. '<^1 •c'l V> e^ ^^ // C»;^ Photographic Sciences Corporation f,^ iV « \\ ^^\. ^^'''- "'^^ % V 23 WEST MAIN STREET WEBSTER, N.Y. 14580 (716) 872-4303 f? 'II iiii 240 si'EEoir Lodk ;it the inai). he saiil, and it will show liow much we have surveyed. And so soon as the House mse I Raw a" nuinlier otthe honnriihle gentleman's lollowiTs, will) had d»!e|) laith and reposed confidence in his word, go to the Ta!»le and look for evidoncos ot" the energy and activity of tiicir leailer ; and, from the hlank stare which was seen on their faces, it was evident that the map did not sliow much, tliat it did not show anything — for the facts arc these: the sur- veys have lieen carried on l>y the honorahle memher I'or ]>othwell when in charge of the I)ei)arttnent. ^Ir. Ifesson: — The honorahle memher for ]ioth- well surveyed less than 2,(MMI,(»(X) acres. The former Conservative (iovernment surveyed more than U.(KI(>, (Mil) acres and the present (iovernment more than oo, (l()(i,(itMl acres. Mr. Laurier; — The honorahle gentleman knows that the world was not created in a day. The first tiling to he done in order to make surveys wos to draw the meridian lines, and the reports sliow that my honoralile friend directed his efforts in 1S77 To 1)1!.\WIN(. Mi:UII)l.\N LINES in order t(j proceed Avith the survey of townships. That was the first thing to he done. I hope this e.\- l)lanation will satisfy the honorahle memher for North Perth. In fact, as far hack as 1S7('» luy honuralde friend iiad addressed himself to this sul)ject, and ad- dressed himself to it in that thorough manner in which ho aj^proaches any suhject. (iovernor Laird in 1877 addressed my honorahle friend as follows uiion the subject of surveys : — The su])ject is one materially atteoting the jirospprity of tiiPsfi ami other settlements in the 'iVrritniy. I would liopo, tiioivlbro, tliat tiie labors of a special survey party will he contiDUPil iluring the ensuing summer. That was in February, 1>^77, showing that as far ON TllK NdKTIi-WK.-T UKIiKI.I.lD.N •J 11 linck as the Huninier previous, (liat i.s to sny tli«'-uiii- tner of 1>>7(), the lionornhlo jrentloniiiii IkkI coiiiiiii'iKeil tlie spfcial .survey. And wliat was tlu- answer of (lie houoralile freiitleniau ? Jle <;-nve an answer ai>|io.-itt' to ilio mu.-lion. hot only sayinji- that there wouM he surveys, hut that the surveys would Ic nia<ie aecord- inu' to tlie hohlin<!S of the people. This is what the houoralile j^cnthinaii wrote uj.'on that oeeasion — iit- .Kii'OillllKt' of 111 jirc-iid .-iiivcy j.Mily ]iri)Viili Mt 111! Wol k ln-illl: I 'X I 'IK led ilurint.' till' cniniiij; >t;i.-(i|l to iliti'l x'ct d\at(li(',v;m 111 (lie vicinity ol' till' ]ii'iiiii}i;il scttiiuieiits lit' tllMt rivr. It I- iPiiPiio-iil in all c; uiicre M-tl!''iiicnt li.ivc liiMii loiiii'd nloiiL' tlic livers in the territniv :nl;i tll<> rtllM'V s to lli<> r.iiui^ !•< e.Msting. tliHl M to ?jiy, ;.'i\ uig a iroiitiii'c <(!' lo or L'O riiiiiiis on tin? river, and I'lniiiiiii.' ilii^ lids I'Hck so us t( Jf.O; Til.\T WA- •|!K I'd.Ii'V of iiyV honovahle friend (Mr. Mills) in 1>^77. w hieh had been inauuurated even in tlio i)ievious year. l!ut f adnii' this : the ]ico])le were iinpatient. The surveys eouh'i not proceed as lapidly as they desired, ami tiie reason is uiven in tin- j'apers hiduuht down tn-day. Tiie surveys eouUl not if proeeeded with hecause the meridian lines had lirsi to be ef tahli.-lied. They aL'ain approached the (iovernment upon this nuitter, and as niy honorable friend slated — I Uf ed not give the au- thority, as it was quoted yt>sterday — that policy would liuve licen pur.sued as S|i(>e(lily as conhl he iiciiuitted. But in 1S78 there was a change of (iovernnient. and this T (barge upon honoralde gentlemen opposite. that with the (diaiii:c of ( lovei niiieiit came a ( iiangi of policy as well, and that instesid of iieiicetbrth r« pectingthe holdings of the people and having special surveys where settlements had jirreeded survey, they subjctted the peoiiie, whether their hinds weie settled or not, to the system of the rectangular survey. Thev .Si'.critictd the petice of their counti v tothe whiiu ^ 1(5 h; 242 SPEECH of having a uniform rectangular survey. Sir, when this new system uf survey was first commenced, tliere were, as may be imagined, comphiints in that terri- tory. The people who had settled upon narrow front lots comi)lained of that system, and as far back as [March, 1SS2. Mr. Duck, the agent at Prince Albert, addressed this letter to the Department: — As tlio iiiiijoiity ol the settlors on the south brancli of the Snskfiti'lii'wan liivor, in the vicinity of the jxirisli of St. Lhu- ront. liave taktMi ii]i their hinds previous to tiio survey with liarnnv fiontajies, .siuiiiar to those river claims in other p;irts of the district, and in view of tlie <litH(nilty likely to be expe- rienced in this otlice in adjusting the Ijoundurios of these claims, in accordance with the section surveys, I have, at the request of the settlers so situated, the honor to re(juest inl'or- mation as to the possibility of re-surveying these sections into river lots on a similar plan to that adojited in I'rince Albert settlement. That was on the 11th March, 1882, and, on the 4th t^eptember, Mr. Duck had not yet received an answer fiom the Department ; and not having received an answer to tho.«i! complaints wliich he had sent to Ottawa at the request of the settlers, the settlers THEMSELVES TRIED THEIR LUCK in the matter, these words : They petitioned the Government in Wedi'sire also tliat you sliould give orders that the lands siiouM be surveyed along the river in lots 10 chains wide i\nd two miles long. It is the old usage of the country to divide tlie lands in this maimer, and it would facilitr.te us in knowing the boundaries of our respective lands. Then, on the loth of October, an official answer came from the Department of the Interior stating as follows : — But as regards the surveying of the land in question ON THE NORTH-WEST UEBEI.I.ION 243 all liin<l-< in tli(> Xorth-We.st Tcriitoiies will Ijo surveyed according to the sjsteni now in t'oreo. ■ That \vii3 the policy adopted and ])romnlgated by the Department of the Interior on tlie 13th October, 188'2, that liencoforth all lands should be surveyed in the North- West Territories on the new system, no matter whether they were occupied or not. or whether they were nettled or not. On the 21st ot' Octoltcr. >[r. Burgess, the Deputy Minister of the Interior, at last answered the letter of Mr. Duck, which had Ijeen ■written on the 11th ftf March previously, and this is Avliat he said : , It is not tlio intention of the Government to cause any re-smvey to he niii'k'. nl'course, uny .suh-ilivision, ilitlerin;: from tlio regular sui'v<'V. they may <l< sire, they can procure for themselves when the lanils come into their possession. You will jjlease. thei'efore, communicate this decision to tiie persons interested. When the settlers asked to have the surveys made according to their holdings, the answer was peremptorily: no, you will tell the jteoplethat if they want their lands sub-divided afterwards, they van do so, but henceforth the system of survey will be that adopted by the (lovernment. I ask any man in this House, T aik any impartial man, could there be any more vexatious tyranny than that which was thus exercised by the (iovernment over the peojile of tiie Saskatchewan River, who had laid out their land in narrow lots, who iiad built their fences accordingly, who had })laced their ilous(;^ accordingly, who had tilled the soil, and made improvements accordingly — could there be any more vexatious tyranny than that exercised by the (.iovernment when they came forward and ran their lines upon these holdings, irrespective of the possession of the jieople. or the improvements they had made? Could there be HI'EECH ANY (il.'KATER TVI.'ANNV tli.'iii vunniiif,' tlu'ir lino-; iicin*- ;i ninii's farm nii'l liis llnil(lil)^^=. iis it" tlii'sc laiiils woio unnccuiiifd or unscttU'il uiinii ■' That \v;\^ n |iioco ortyi-aimy witliout f'xcu.«f'. I .-ay tlierc can lie im PxtMi.^c whatever for tlio enur.-e (if the ( loverniiieiit in that iiiatlcr. T =ay it wiuihl liave heeu (heap ju.stite in their liamls if tiiey lia<l listeiieil ti) the ])rayev^ «if the half-hreeil^ and told llieni ; we will res'iiect yiuir ]iorse*sions sueli a.'* you have iheni. Not only so. lait the niiHsionarie-i nl' the land, thr null of jieace, who as a rule; in that cnuiitry do imi ii.tiTfi'ie with the people's business, so far as that ^ncs.tlmu.iilit it their duty to renionstiale time and a;iain. Father I.educ came liere and inlcr- vi( wed the (Government ; Father Amlrc wrote h'tors, and Father \'i<rreville wvete letters, which were (pioted hy my honorahle friend, -as ehi(|Uent letters as could lie written, letters wliicli were pleaduiu- for the just liiihts of the people, hut they renjained unanswereil. Tt is asUed wliat are tlio urievaiices of tlie ]teo))le of tlie Xort]i-A\'es', Territories ? I ask any man. could there he a gieater grievance, even in the (dd jirovinces of Canada, tli'iii that, the (iovernment should attempt to re-survey the lands accoriiing to a new, regular and scientific system. T .«ay tluit if fuc]i a tiling were atteniiited. there w(nild he an outhreak here as there was there. Nothing is DEAltEK TO KVHtV lOOR MA.N • than Ids ]mnr p;'t(di of land, reclaimed from the wilderness hy his own toil, and it was an nniustifiahle and uinvarrantahle jiiece of tyranny on the part ol" the (iovernment to act as tliey did. T can understand why these iieople. goaded as they were hy this syste- nnitic ignoring of their claims, at last re.' oi ted to a mu?t Miifortunate course. Men have rohelled tiim; and again for less just causes than these jieojile had. Look at the conduct of the (Iovernment. For Ci long ().\ TIIK NuRTIl-WK-T i{i:i'.i;i.i.;m.v 'A> yeiiir'. the ])('(H)ltM>i' till- Nnith-We^t hiivc liccii pcti- tioninji l'i>r tlicir viglilr^ ; iVir (i Idhli; yi-ai's tlu'v liail used ovci V icinriiitutioiiiil means wliicli tin- law could ]>lncr- at their (lis|iiiral in order t<> lti'I jvi^tice. Tliey sent i>etitiiiii^ : they met in asi^eniMie.-- ; lliey |iassed resiiluiiiii.- : lli"y srnt in delejj;ali(iM*. The petitions leniained uiiauswcied ; the re-<>lutiuiis ailii|ited in their niectin.L''-' were i^.^nmed. Tin' <leleiratiiins wen- receiveil uio>i cnurte'in-iy, witii swei-t siuilr- and sweetfi' wiirds. whieli wr:i; ]iut down in writinix, 'lUt were I'livfrnUcn as <oou a • tl.c delegates had turned their harUs i'i>r linme. F-rtliese Ion j:' years, thi- (iov- i-rnment never ninved. After tiiesi' inn;.' years of vij'ele-'s jietitioninu'. the lialf-lirecd- vf-mted !«> a most •ignitieanl enurse ; they sent fnr l.nuis Kiel, and oron;_dit inm irito t hi- ettunti'v. This shnuld at ]a>t liavi 'Micned the evi-s of the (invei niu'^nt. Tii<y knew new that th" iav( 'ipcned the eyi-s o| tise (mvemin'^n lliat iJiel was a darim:' man ; tliev \< Ve"!- the Xnrtli-W cU 1 lad then' iica It-' lilh-d with ever ai cUiMulalinL;' bitternes>. and tliiv niu-t liavi- kiinwii that umter th<' cinunrstaiU't'S there \\(i(^ all til'* elenniits t'i>r a sU(hh.Mi eonllaL'ration. the ri'sulls <if wliieli mi'jht lie. as tliiy have [imvi'd to t>e. di-as- trons. Yet tin' (icv* riiuicnt never ninved 1 iiUl- Uiel • lid not remain n lie held mnnenUH meetili'js, whii-li were attended, not nnly hy the half-hreeds. hut hy the white settlers : tin- .situatinn was di-cn-T-fii ; the people's Lrrievaiici-s were set lorth ; yil the (inv- ernment never neiveil. Tlie (ioverninent (•(Ml |> Mn I i.i;.\h I(;N(ii;.\N( H. liec"'\'se the ])ress dltlu' enuntry, the paper-i jmlili-hed on the ^,i-i<at< hewaii am! the papers putili.-heil in Manitoha. sui>p(irti>iu the liovernment. warned them time and atiain of what wa- going nn ; yet they never neivcd. Mcicover. tiic ollicers of the (iovernment Avarne(| them a'^ain and a^ain. IfvdU lunk at the Tdrrespondenees you w (leai au'PUt at liince ill find tiiat Mr huek. th Uiert, a^ain ami aiiiiin :\V'j:('i 240 SPEECH upon the Government the necessity of remedying indi- vidual grievances, and his letters always remained unanswered. You will find that Mr. Pearce, a most indefatigable officer of the Government, time and again pointed out the dangers ahead, and suggested'- remedies; but the Government never moved. What was it the half-breeds were asking for? Anything unjust or unfair? It was so just that it had been granted to the half-breeds of Manitoba ; it was so just that it was granted by the Government themselves at last, when it was too late ; yet when it was time the Government never moved. IJut if the Government remained passive, public opinion l)ecame alarmed. Distant as that country was, difficult as was the com- munication with it. sometimes a faint echo reached here of what was going on in that Territory. As far back as 1883 my honorable friend the leader of the Opposition called the attention of the Government to the complaints which were made by the people of the Territories. He ivas met on that occasion by the Prime Minister telling him that all was well. But the member for Provencher (Mr. Royal) then sounded a note of ahirm, and pointed out that tliere were pos- sibilities of danger. Such warnings coming from such a staunch supporter of the Administration should at least have excited the attention of the Government; yet they never moved. Again, in the following ses- sion, my friend the member for West Huron (Mr. Cameron) set forth the grievances of the North-West, and asked for a committee. The Government answered that EVEHYTIlINCi WAS SEUEXE there ; they would not move. This present session my honoraV)le friend again called the attention of the Government to the state of the country when he moved tlie bill for the representation of the North- West Territories. That bill came on for its second reading on the 11th of March. At that time the ON THE NORTH-WEST REBELLION 247 atmosphere was already vibrating with the first waves of the great storm that was soon to roll over the land. The Government could not fail to be aware of what was going on. In fact, we have proof that at that time their agents were sounding the note of alarm in their ears ; yet they never moved. The Minister of Public Works rose up in his place, and very quietly moved the adjournment of the debate. That was all the encouragement given to those people. Even at that time it was perhaps not too late. If the Govern- ment had shown any good-will at all, it is possible that the people, hearing of it, would have modified their attitude, and this outbreak would perhaps have been spared to us. Later on we had the speech of the right honorable Prime Minister which I have already (juoted, telling us that the Government relied on their friends for support, that their consciences told them that they had done everything that could be done to pacify the country. Such boasting; of the Government on the eve of a rebellion which they had brought on the land by their own misconduct, is I believe unpar- allelled in history, unless indeed we recall the lan- guage of Einile Ollivier in the Corps LcrjisUit If in 1870, when he said he w.is going to war with a light heart, when he was pluns^ing hi^ country in the grciite.st calamities that ever befell a nation. And to crown the whole we have a letter from the Secretary of State, saying on the (Hh of June : If the half-breeds have serious grievances a.i^ainst theCana- ilian (ioverniuent, the ordinary cliaunel of petition was open to them as to all tree citizens. They did not avail themselves of it. Sir, this is simply adding insult to injury, half-breeds did not petitiim ? Tl le WHAT MOUE COILD TIIEV DO than they have done in a constitutional manner ? To tell the truth, for these long years they have Ijeeu pe- 2- IS SrEEi II I • (iliniiiii'j jiiiil pel ill.Hiiiij. lif^i^iii;: iiimI ln'^j^inn', kn"ck- iiig jiihI knoi kiii'i ;it the tlimr of Ihc ( Invcriiiiiciit. iind till' < ".ivcriiiiicnt iicVfT lil'ii il ii liii^jcr tn ciuuc to tlicir rc-i'Uc' tlllll i-^ llir Initll I'l I he ni.'lltr T. 'rilC ( iciVl'l'U- iiitiil never <lii| iinylliiiiu: In iiieel the '.vislie-; tlie |ir;iyers id'tlin-ie people. Yen, I hej piu'doii. tiny iliil Miiiii'thiiiij: ; tliey sent ;i pulice' furee to Cjirlton. \\'iiiii llio pL'upli- were petitiniiin.L:- I'm- their riu-ht-* aiid h ihl- ill;.' nieethiir-i til di-'eiH-' th''ir _M'i<'V;inee-<. tlie i Jiivnii- uuMit Ipeciiiue ;i\v;ii'e of \vh;it Wiis iriiiii.iT i>n. tinil iiir-teinl nf r'-nieilyiiij,' their urieviiuee-J, sent ;i [mliee I'ciree to ('arltun in oi'ih'i' tn (ivernwe the peiiple. Thiit i> liie !?tirt ut' jii>-ti'ethey :::<it Irieii the ( Mivevnnient dl* ';in!iih( until tiiey I'li-e ill insnri'M-iidn. Sir. it' soniethinii move ihiiii ev( rythiiiLi' el.-e cduM I'cniienin tlie iietinii dfllii- (iovi'iiiinen'. it wnahl he thi-; act ol'.-^en.lin'j; the puiiee t'liree to ('iirlton to mei't tlie petitions ol tlie people liy an aniie 1 t'oi'ee. This is not Hriiish ju'^tiee; this is not iliiti-li ailiiiinistration ; this is not tlie manner in whieh a liriti.-h (oive:nnient usually meets the ch-- inanl- o!' it- snl>jects : hut. Sir. this i-j TUK urs-IAN WAV or AliMISi-TKUINi. I.WV, Thi- i^ tlu' way Uussla meets the ileniaiids d' I'olanil. Whenevei the I'oii-' ri-e and claim their ri^dits. the lvU-si:ius do exaitly uiial h;i- hicii done hy the Cana- dian ( lovernnnin — they send armeil t roups to W'ar^^aw . Now. there is in cMnnection with this mailer another lioint w hit li I have iiot heard ri'i'erred to. hut whi(di .xeems to iie in the minds of a liooil many p"ople. It is not e.\pre-:^ed. hut f ihinkthi' I'eelinu' permeale- the Very atmo'sphere. not only of this Mouse, hut ot' till- who'e ol' t his fotiiit I'y. 1 htive not heard it stated, iuit it i- in the mind> of many that if tliese men have ri'oelh (I. it is occiiise they are. to a e(!rtMiii extent, of' I'reneh orij;iu. Tin I'ir-t Mini-ter stated yesterday that <lahri(d Duniont and his friends are and always wen- reliels. It is not to my kn()wledij:e that I'uniont or aii.v one of those, who toid-; up arms on the Saskat- ii.\ TIIK N(iI;TII-\VKsT l!i:r.Kl,l.lnX 2I".> «lit'\v;in niiy nmrc timn nn the Hc<l Ilivcv. ovor Ii.mT tilt' lliuuglit dl' n-iiclliiiL;- ;ig,iiii-t tli<' autlinrity dl llvr .M;iji'-ty. It wns imt ;l^^■lill>t Her .M;ij<'sty tlic •iuci-ii tliey rcli(.'Ilc(l. Imt ii^:iiusl tluMyiaiiny nl'tlic ( aiKidian (iovcriiiiiciit. It in i|Uitc' iin.-Hiiilctliul tlioliaH'-lnccdH, ju.«t rt'claiiiK'il iKnu a iiniuadic lii'c. iiaviiii; prai tii ally Ik'cii Minlcr tli«' autliin'ity ni tlic l'«riti-li rule nut lunre tliaii 7 nr > yi'Mi'H. Iiavt» not yrt h-arncil tn love tlio lli'iti>!i Hag. licrau-c :^" lai' the llan' in tln'IriiHl- of iiiinoraliji' jjrcntlt'incii cijipM-iti' Ium not 'ariicl tiiat Justicf wliii li ha^v-'"*' witiitlic Uritii-li Ihi!/ t-vi-iy- wlicrt' t'nr the last til'ty yrar.-. lint this I say. and 1 say it nmiirpj.' rr<ini a in'i'viin •> wlicrt;. Ir-s tliaii "il yeai'^< a.^ic cvt'i'v man I'i' ijie ijK'i' tii wliirii \ lu'lniij"; was a rclici. .and wIhh- ti)-day ivciy man ol'that race is a true and loyal -ulijcct. as true and as loyal as any that hrcatlus — T say iiivr thc-c imn in.-ti( i'. yivc; them iVeedoni . Liivi' them tiicir ri;jlits. treat them as for the last 1" years yon have Irrati'ii the |i(o[(l(- ot' Lower Canada. !ind hy-and-hye. tliron-imiit tho-i' 'J't'rritories. you will have contcni upait. jieace and harm^iny where to-dav di.-covd. hatn'd and war are ruinini? the land I THE EXECUTION OF RIEL A /RESOUNDING PROTEST ANOTHEFi INDICTMENT AGAINST (iOVERXMENT THE THE " SILVER- TOXdUEn I.AUBIEU. (Siicech ilcli'crcd in the Unuse of Commons on the mil Miirch 18SG) We particularly recoininon<l tlie cnrof'iil perusal of tliia speech, ns it is cousidcroil the finest ever delivered in Parlia^ uii'Mtaiid may bo roi^an led, perhaps, as Mr. Laurier's best «^Hbrt. ( »n the day after its tlelivery, the English press of tho Dominion applied to Mr. f-am-ier for the first time the ejiitiiet of •' the silver-tongued Laurier". It is needless to I'elnte the <'iicuinstances under which it was made, as they are known to all an<l moreover this volume contains a series of speeches. wliii;h supply a complete iiistory of tiie North-West ijuestion. The half-breed leader, Louis Kiel, had been exe- cuted. Mr. lUake, the then leader of the ( »f)position, and Mr. Laurier undertook to convince their colleagues that the r(>al culprit was not Miel, who had been hanged, but the (tovern- ment, who had knowingly and <leliberately goaded the half- breeds to desperutic'i an<l revolt. IJcfore an impartial tribunal, sri;i:iH I' I till* uii<liTtakiii,i: woiill lisivo licoii ti-iuiiiiili.'int : but tlie iiovtor- fill onitois ailili-<T-soil tlifiiixlvi- toa I'ailiaiiU'iitai'y luajuity, wlin riMiM \]oi a'iniit tli-- fvi li'iicc nl lact^ witlioiit ic)iii(liatin!j; aU'l -!ullil'\ iiii.' tli"ii- |)!c\ inn* rccoi'. U^n tin- ^nl.jiH-t. > ioi'a--ii)ii.s MH'li a^ tli''>«' *liu\v Imw (li'|iliiial)ly H'lVciiiini'iit liy |iai't\ .I'avoi'- al)l»' a- ii in to the ]iiii[»'i- working' oliln- iciiri-sciitaiivc sy-ti-iu, too<'!t'-ii stilic's in li'jii'ii li-iii'i' ol' cliara 'tc-r. 'I'lii-i is tlii- I'lii.'t'- iinji!' --ion li-U l.y tlic loilovvin!^ r-'iuaikaliit.' i>irci.- •'! elo- »|Ui'iicf : -Ml: >■ KAKKIt. I III Sinrc iii> r.iic nil 1 he utlici- siilc mT tlic Ilou-c In-i flu- 1 "iiiaui' ti> col it i 11 m' this del lilt o. f will do so luy -(•'.(". Till- "diiii-liT 111' I'iililio Work-! statcil tli;it lln- t Jovcrii- iiieiit wt'i'L- iT;i'|y and aiixiou-; to di-ru-' t lii- ijUc-nion. ;inil i^ this an cyidoiicc of tiic cmiraL;'!' liicy prctf'nl to lio.*s"-i-i '.' Sir. ill all that has liccii said -u t'ar. and th:'t lias i'fiiU'ii iVoiii tiio lijis of lionoraolc LicntlciiH'i! cpi'o- site. there is one tliitiv:' in wiiiidi \vc can all a^ree. and one tiiiny only — \y<' can all auree in tlio trihute which Wii* paid to the voUmtiM'rs hy tin- Minister of Puldic AVork-' when he enter' d into a defence ol' the (iovern- nient. The vojiuitecr-; had a nio-t painful duty to jiev- lonn. uUf] they performed it in a mo-t creditahle man- ner to theni-elvi- am] the eountry. I'mler the mi i form ot" ti Soldier there i- .'I'lierally to l.c found a warm ami inereiful heart. M ncover. our sidd^crs arecili/en- who liiivt! an inter< -t in tliis country ; luil when they are on duty they know iiothiii;^ l>ut d'aty. At the same time it can fairly he pro-unied. that wiieii on duty the heiU't feels and the mind tliinks : and it may he fairly ]iresume(i that tlio-e who were on duty in the North- M'e-t last spiinu' tlnuiLiht and fe!t as a ureal -iddier, ii gieat kiiii:-. Kinu' Henry l\' oi' France, thought ami felt when eiiL'au'ed in hattlet'or many years of hi~ life, in liuhtiiiLi- hi- ichelliou^ suhje'l-:. W heiiever lug pword inihcled a wound he u-eil ihe.-c word.s : " rni-: i;!.\(. -iiiikks THi;t;. i.on iiicai. riii;!-:.'" It may iu> presumed tlnit [lerhajis oui soldiers, (i.\ TIIK i;.\r.(ITIiN 111- I.Ml!-- IMKI. Avhcii liiiiitiliL: l!ii' iclicllinii. \v('i :■ ;\\->> aiii in;i!fi i !.y ;i siiiiiliir ^|iirit. nnd ])riiyi'il t" (l.-nl ijnii he umuM Jirnl tlic wuiuhI,-; that it wa.i tht-ii' duty tn intlut. ami that 11(1 niori; Moiid sliould lio siicd thaii tin- Idnod ~hcd \t\ th(Mii*clv( s. Till' ( iiivci'iiiiu lit. Iidwcvcr. tliMii'jlit othcrwi^o. The ( iovcniiiiciit t hi'Ui^iit lliat th'' Mund i-licd hy tlic -I'hlicrs \v;i~ iml itiliiciciit. luit ihat aim- ihcr lilc iiin:-t al.-n he -ai'iiliccd. W't- lie,, id tin- .\|i- iii.'itcr <i|' Ptililic W'ltiks i.ttcmiitiiiL;' t" di'i'ciid ti.'ccnu- (liict I't' the ( ■nvciiiiiieiit, aiui .■-tatiii'r that it* ai tiiii in this matte! w.is a -t( in lu'cosi-ity whiidi dnty ti' mir Queen ai.'d duty t^i nur country made imvilahle. Mv. Sneaker. T have y<.'\ In learn — and I havt- nnt ieaiiieil it iVnin anything that has fallen iVnm tiie lips oriiciitlo- nieii dpi o.-iti — thai duty ti' Qiucn and ei.untry may ever iireveiit the exereise (if that ]>ieri>i;Mtive o| meicr which i.s the nolile-t jirerouative nl' tlr> Crnwii. The languaLM' 1)1' the hoiinralile geiitlenian was n^t the first Mccasion when res[Hin.-ilile or irrespniisiMe advi- sers 111' the ( 'iDwn attem]ited ti) dehnle the puli ic.aiid jieihaps themselves as well, into the lielief tjiat duty tn (^ueeii and eountry reiiuiied Idnod. wln-n iiierey was a jiossihle alternative. wiii:.\ .\iimii;ai r.VM; was ?entenceil to lie >hiit I'nr no other crime than that of lieinp; unlortunate in liattio. there were men at the time, who said to the Kin<r that tiie interests ot the cMuiiitry reniiiicd that the sentem e sJKnild lio carrieil out. though the court, which had convicled Idiii. .strongly lecoinmendeil him to meicy. Those evil counsels ])revailcd. and the !-entcnce was carried "Ut ; hut the verdict of history, the verdict ol' posterity — posterity to which hoiii'iahlc gentlemen now afijical — lia.s deciarnl long auo 1 li.at the cairving out of the sentence against .\dniii.il Ityng was a judicial mur- der. And f vcntnie to predict. Mr. Speaker, that the verdict of liii-iory will he the same in thi.s instance. In every instance in wliich a (o'vernmei t has carrieil 254 SPEECIt ii out tlic extreme i)enalty of the law, when luercy was suggested instead, tlie verdict lias lieen the same. Sir, in the province tc» which I helong. and especially amongst the race to which I helong, the execution of Louis Iliel \\iv:i Ijeen universally coiuleinned as being the sucrilice of a. life, nut to inexoralile justice, hut to bitter passion and revenge. And now. Sir, before going any further, it is lifting that, jierhajis, T should address niysel f at once to the state of things which has sprung up in Quebec from the universal COXDEMXATION OK THE GOVERNMENT i ' not only by their foes, but by their friends as well. The movement which has followed the execution of Kiel has been strangely misconceived, or I should say, has been wilfully misre])rosented. The Tory press of Ontario at once turned bitterly and savagely ui)on their French allies of twenty-live years or more. They assailed them not only in their action but in their motives. They charged them with being ani- nuvted with nothing less than race prejudices : they not only charged their former friends, but the whole French race as well, that the onlj' motive which led them to take the course they did in the matter of Kiel, was simply because Kiel was of French origin. They charged against the whole race that they would step lietween a criminal and justice, the moment the criminal was one of tlieir own race. They charged against the wiiole French, race that tliey would' pre- vent the execution of tiie law the moment the law threatened one of their own. .Mr. S[)eaUer, in this matter I am not ilesirous of following the example which has been set before us by honoraiile gentlemen opposite of citing copious newspaper extracts, al- though I could cite extracts of the most bitter nature that ever was penned, of the Mnil newspaper and other Tory organs against French Canadians. T will not import into this debate any more acrimony tiuin can be avoided, but I simply quote a single paragraph ON THE EXECUTION OF I.OL'IS KIEL 255 from tlio Mail — and one of tlio most moderate — which will show the jreneral s\nut of the attacks made ui)on us. On the 7th of December last, the Mail wrote as follows, siieaking of the French Canadians: — 'I'lieir 1( adois aro payinj; us back ut tho iPiosont time l»y assci'tiiig that tlicy .should liavo tlic right of .<usiioi)iliM,i.' tlie opi'iatiou <il law iijiiiiiist treason wlienever they ohoo-r to de- luiuid its .su.s))eiisinn in the interests ol'a traitor of French oriitin, even thouuh he niav have hoen twice "uiUv. Sir, I denounce this AS A VII.E CALUMNY. I denounce this as false. I claim this I'or my fellow- countrymen of French origin that there is not to he found anywhere under Heaven a more docile, (juiet and hiw-ahiiling ])eople. I claim this for my fellow- countrymen of French origin — and I appeal to the testimony of any of thos^e who know them and have liveil amongst them — that whatever their faults may lie, it is not one of their faults to shield, conceal and al)et crime. Tt is true that upon the v^rc'^ent occasion the French Canadians have shown an uiihounded symjiathj* i'or the unfortunate man who lost his life ui)on the scafTohl on the Kith No- vember last. ]?ut if they came to that conclusion, it ■was not because they were influenced by race prefer- ences or race prejudices, if you choose to call them such. Tliey were no moreinlluenced in their opinion by race prejudice, than were the foreign jiapers which deprecated the execution oflviel. Tt is a fact that the foreign press, the American press, the Fnglis'li ]iress, tho Frencli press, almoi^t witlumt any exception, have taken the grounil tiiat the execution of Kiel was un- justified, unwarranted and against the spirit ot' tlie age. Certainly, it cannot be charged against that [)!'ess tliat tlicy were influiMiced liv race feelings or ]ircjudi- ces, if you choose to call them such. And in tliesanie 'J.'(i -!•)•;[■( II liiaiincr. T .-ny. the French ("iiiiiiiHiiii?. iiitlie HllitUilo \v!ii(li llicy luok. were Kdt im]H'llc.l liy rnci' luciiidi- cos. lint I'V iPiisonn I'm illy dcducililc nml dcilurid irom thefiicts of the ciise, !iut i( it liiid liccii .-tiitccj that 1:1(1' iirc'juilicos. tliiit lildoi] relation- jiail aiMcil kt-cn- «••.'. and fi'diiiii' to a (.'Diivictinu fnniH'd liv the luuid, that Wduhl have hocii jx'il'fctly true. 1 will nut ad- mit that hl'iC'd rclatimi.-; cun .-u far clnud Miy jiida- niniita-ild make me mistake wmiin; for ri.ulit. hut I chcirfully admit add f will ph'ad uaulty to that weak- ness, it' wcakiicHS it l)i'. that il'an injustice he cuni- iidtti'd against a rcllow-lieinji.the hlow M-ili I'eil (h-cjicr into my heart il' it should lall uiion one o|' ],\y kitii and kin. 1 will imt admit anything- more than that. Tli'it rate pit judice!^ <'an so t'ar ehuid my jud.Liinent a.s to make me niistakr wronu from riijht. I do not bi'- lieve to he true. lU'fore [ iXi\ further. I desire to say this : It has been stated, time and a.ii;ain, hy the Mail newspapei and hy litin/r Tory or,>i'ans. that it was the present intention of the Freneh Canadian le.iilers TO ol!<.AM/.K .V ITUKIV IKKMII ( ANAIlI.AN I'AK'TV, '^: « ■;■ f ?1 -.1 ■ '^ i ' to lay .M-ide all party ti<>s and to have no other hond.s of party in this House hut that ti(( of race. I protest a'/ainst any such nssertion. Such an assertion is un- t'ounded. it is calculated to do harm, it not founded on truth. It would l)e simply suicidal to French ("iinadians to form a party liy them.=elves. Why, so soon as Fr<Mich Canadians, who are in tlie minority in this House and in the country, were ti> or};ani/.c as il ])olitical jiarty. tlu'y would compel the majority to (U'l^ani/e as a jtoliticid party, ami the result mu:-t ijo (lisastro.is to themselves. \\'e ha ve (Uily one way of oruani/int;- jiartics. This country must Ix; <j;overned and can he j^dverned simply on i|iiestions ot' policy and .idminislration. and French Canadians who have hail any part in this movement have never had any oliicr intention lint to orti'iinize upon those \iarty dis- tiiii'i i'lLS and u;)oii no other. In (U'licr to Iny thi.s O.N THE EXECT-TinX OF l.OVIs BTEI, 257 <iuostion at rest, I cjinnot do liotter than to (juote the lantiiia^e of the honorahle member I'or Ilochehiga (.Mr. r)osiav(liii?)at a mcetin;,' that took jihice recently at Lon<;neuil. That meeting took i)hice in .Tanuary, [ lielieve. Mr Ilenoit, the honoraljle member I'or the (Miuiity, had l)een invited. Inil had nol ]iiit in an ap- pearance, and the fact liad l>een commented an by stime sjicakers wlio liad addres-^ed the meeting. Mr. Desjardins hfpoko a.s follows :- iiiiitoil 1i<iiu wlu'ii tlii'ir iiatioiiul interests uiiiy !»' iiii|i<')ill('(l, I :im nftliiit iifiiiy.hi our movciiu'iits we Iimvc not ilesii'fil thai a oviniiiKil sliould t'soiipc dcjith bccauso he is a I'reiuli ('nna <iiaii ; but because as rcirards .lacksoii and Kiel, if the lirst liad his lilc savcil, the scc'OikI shniihl have liad it also. Wo do nol want any more pilvilogcs ; we arc strong pnougli, but what W6 want is justice for all. It lias been .«aid by sober-minded people that the exeention, EVEN IK rX.lUr^T, of the man wlio was executed and who is believed to have been insane liy those who sympathize with him, does not make this a case for the outburst of feeling which has taken ])lace in Quebec on the occasion of Iviers execution. I differ from that view. In our age, in our civilization, every singb; human life is valuable, and is entitled to i)rotection in the councils of the nation. Not nu\ny ytars ago England sent an expedi- tion and spent millions of her treasure and some of her best blood simply to re=cue jirisoners whose lives were in the hands of the King of .Vbyssinia. In the same manner I sav that the life of a single .subject of 17 I ' > I 258 f?rEEfii ller Majesty here is valual)le. and is not to lie treated Avitli levity. If there are nienihers in the House who l)olieve that the execution of Kiel \vas not wnrranto'l, that under the circumstances of the case it was not judicious, that it was unjust, I say they have a right to arraign the Government for it before this country, and, if they arraign the ( iovernmcnt for it and the (iovernmcnt liave to take their trial upon it, it must he adndtted as a consequence that certain ])artieH will feel upon the (juestion more warmly than others. It is not to Ijc supposed that the same causes which iniluenced public o))inion in Lower Canada acted in the same manner with all classe.-i of the com- munity ; that the causes which actuated the com- munity at large were identical in all classes of tlie community. Some there were who believed that the Ciovernn.ient had not meted out the same measure of juBtice to all those that were accused and who took ])art in the rebellion. Others believed that the state of mind of Riel was such that it was A .IIDICIAI, MTRDER to e^• rente him ; but the great mass of the jieoplc believed that mercy should have been extended to all the ])risoners. Riel included, liecause the rebellion was the result of the policy folhiwed by the (iovernment against the half-breeds. That was the chief reason which actuated them, and it seems to me tliat it is too late in the day to seriously attemjU to deny that the rebellion was directly the result of the conduct of the (iovernmcnt towards the half-breeds. It is too late in the day to dispute that fact. Yet we have heard it disputed in this House. Jiy whom? \]y the last man who, I sliould have expected, would have disputed it — by the Inni. member (Mr. Royal). He gave us the other day his version of THE ORIGIN OF THE TROrBI.E. Everybody is responsible for the rebellion excei)t ON THE EXECUTION OF LOLIS KIEL 259 one body. The Ulohc is reHponsiltle for it ; the Far- luers' Union is responsible for it; the white settlors are re3i)onsible for it. Everybody you can conceive of is re.'Jpon.siljlc for it, except tl»e (ioveronient. The Governinont is i)erl"cctly innocent of it, as innocent as a new-born child ! Sucli was the statement made by the hon. memljer the other day. lUit if the hon. member is now in earnest as to that matter, liow is it that the half-breeds alone have been i)rose(Utcd ? If the Glolir is the causeof that rebellion, the ^7()6f' should have been the first to be indicted. If the whitesettlers wore the inf-tigators of tlie rebellion, the white settlers should have been indicted al.so. There is more than that. The counsel for the Crown received autliority and even in.atructions specially to ]>roceed against the instigators of the rebellion, the white settlers, who certainly Wori.I) Il.WE KEEN MOKE (ail.TY than the half-breeds whom tlicy had instigated to rebellion. Here is ])art of the instructions given by the late Minister of Justice to the counsel for the Crown: rt must be, iiiid FiTiin the intbrmation wliich the (iovi-rii- metit liiivc, it (•ccuis piohuhle — It seems the(iovernment share the opinion of tlie hon. member ibr I'rovencher, and they profess to act accordingly — It must t)t', iiiid from the information which tlio <iovein- mont liiivc, it seems inolnibie that tin- reljcllinn has been en- «'Oura;.'iMl aotivt'ly by wliites, piirtioularly in Prince Ailicrt. Nothing in tlie wlioh' (hity entrusted to you is, I apinolicnd, m ore important than that uc should if i)ossible tint out some of tlie nu'U wlio, with i'ar liottcr knowh^dge than the lialt- b reoils, stirred thom U]i to roliollioii, and your special atten- tion is asked to this jioint. 200 SPEECH Tlie lion, member for Provenchor (Mr. Royal) does not Fccm to luxvc given any lielp to the counsel for the Crown, notwithstanding the knowledge whicli enables him to Fay on the Hoor of Parliament, Avitli the resiion.-ibilily attaching to his utterances, that the white settlers aic re3j)onsible for tlu; relie lion If they are, Imw coujcs it that no wliite settler has yet liecn indicted — that every white settler is at large? AVhat are we to infer from this ? Are we to infer that the (iovcmment has receded from tlie position which was here taken liy Sir Ale.Nandor Ciimijliell ? Or are Ave to inter that tlie statement of the hon. member for Provencher is oidy one of those wild assertions made as a last ex[)edient in the defence of acts (ttherwi^e indefensible? Tlic lion, gentlemen went further. Jle not only charged the white settlers, the I'armers' Vnion and the (ilol/c newspnper, Init lie also lield res- linnsible the .Mackeii/ie Administratiou. lie said that the adniinir-tration of thai ( invernment, from the time that they took ollice to the time they left, had been null and that the liistory of their administration in the North-West had been a perfect blank. Well, .Mr. Sjjcaker, it is a charge wiiieh cannot be made against the present Administration. Their administration was not at all one blank. BLOOD ! ni.ooi)! ni.oonl jirisons, scaffolds, witlows, orphans, destitution, ruin — these are what iill the blanl; in the adnnnistratioa oftiiis (iovernment of the affairs of the North- West. Mr. Sjieaker, there might be something to say. as the hon. gentleman will aptirehend, upon the administra- tion of the hon. member for Kast York (.Mr. Mac- kenzie) of the affair.s of the North- West Territories, but the present would not be a seasonable time, and the occasion may arise hei'eafter. Let nie, however, tell this to the hon. gentleman: if the administration of ;Mr. Mackenzie was blameable for its treatment of t!ie affairs of the North-West, if they were reniisa in ox TlfE EXECUTION 01'' I.OIJS ItlEL 2r.i their dutio.^, liow imicli more blameable must be tlic prosont AdiiiinihtntlioM, whicli hiiv(> iKjt yet done tiiat ■\vhicli should have liecn ilono l»y tlieir predeces.«ov8 ? But I tV)rj;;et ; the honorable fjcntlenian has nothing, or, at lea-:t.very WiUc. to <ay a^ain.st the ])re.sent Gov- ernment. It m:iy i)e [)o-)sible that they have not been alltogether diligent in the dutien they had to i)erform. but htill they have siiown a .great deal oi' good will — at lea-it, so nay the honorable gentleman. Here is what he .sayn : — III 1X^0, sir .Idhn ^r.'iodoniiM took tlifi fiist oiijioi'tuniiv li<^ liii:l, ill oi'ijer to hriii).' in a liill into tiiis Ifoiiso — Iw liiinsfU'.th'' Ifii'lcr oi' till' ( 'oiisi-rviitive inrty, iiitroiliicoil a liill into I'ai-iiii- iiieiit to cxti'iiil tlie sdiiio ]>rivilof.'(>.-i and ri.i.'lits to tlu' liall- broeds in tiie territories as those (>iijoy<'il tuiiler tlio Manitoba Act by tlic liall'-lireiHls in tlio province ol .Maiiitobn. This statement is eorreot, excejit with regard to the date which should have been 1S7D instead of ISSO. Sir .Tohn .Maedonald, as ho says, introduced a bill to extend to thehalf-breeds ofthe North- West Territories TiiK sa:me rmviLEGEs as had been granted to those of Mamitoba. That was done in 1S71>. and the Act wliich I hold in my hand reads a:j follows : 'lliat the l'oUow!ng pnwor.s are hereby delegated to tiio (Jovernor in t'ouncil to sati>f.- any claims existing in connec- tion with tiie extinguislinn n: of the Indian titles prel'erred by tiie lialf-breeds resident in tlio N'ortii-VVest Territories, out- side the limits of Manitolia pr^'vious to the i'lth day of July, J 870, by firaiiting land to siu-ii pt'rsons to sucli extent and on such terms and conditions as may from time to time be deemed expedient. The provisions of this statute were repeated in the Act of 1883. But before we proceed further, it may be important to at once define what were those jn-ivifeges and riglita whicli were extended to the half-breeds of '1\B^ I* ' It! I I *'' •' ' 262 srEECH Manitoba. I5y the Act ol' 1870 it was dccreetl a3 follows : — Ami wlioreas it is oxpediont townivls tiio oxtin^tiishiutMit of tlio inilian titlo to the laiid.s in tiio province to mip'opriato n portion ot'sncli uiii;iiinti'il linuls to the oxtiwit. of I ,4n!),i)i)it iKM'i's tiiei'oot'ior the licndit ol'tlio faniilios of tlu> haif-lji'ccd.s jc.-i'ii III ^ it is iiiMt'by fiiai;tril tliat iho Lioiit('nant-<ic)Vi'rnor, undor r.'j;ulatiiins to In- finni tiiuo to timoniiKlo liy the (iov- ei'noi'-(>i'n -ral in Council , siiall sc-lcct sucli lots or tracts in siu'ii [larts of the province us li'! may <lo(Mn i-xpodiont, to tim oxtcnt atorosaid. and divi In the sanio a'noni; llio cluldrcn of ht'dds ol' laniilifs rcsiilinu' in tii,! provin('o at the tinu' of the said transfer to Canada. TirE lI.\l.l--r.I!EED>< WEUE ALSO (IK'AXTKI). for tilt; extingui-<luuent of tin- Indian title. lUO acres of land ors('rii) for KiO acvos ofland ; and each minor, 210 Mcrcs (U- scM'ii) for tlnit qiiiintity. Tn 1S7'.) the Fir.st Minister took power to extend the same i)rivilege^ to the half-hreed.s ul'tlie North-Wi'st. It will l)eseen that the halt'-hreeds of Miuiitid'a were treated iia a .«iH'cial class. They were; not trc'ited as Indians ; they were not tr(>;ite(l as whiles hnl as partieipatini;; in the rights of l)oth the whites, and tiie Fudians. If they had Ijeen treated as Indians, tliey would have been sent to their reserves ; if they h. id l»een treated as whites, they would have been granted homesteads ; but as T have said, they were treated as a sjjecial class, participat- ing in both rights of whites and Indians ; as whites they were given a homestead of Kid acres on the plot 11! ON TIIF, K.\E( fTIOX OK I.orrH KIEt. ;2n.'5 of liiiul (>r \vhi(*li they liiippoiied to bo in po-ise^sion ; iM ImliiiiH. tlii'V were ^'iven scri|) for liindn to tin; ex- tent of mo iicre.s for each lieiul f>f faiuily.tmd "itn ncrc.ri for minor?!. In 1><7'.K sh I have Haul, llie (ioverniiiout paHHeil a .statutt; siinihir to the statnte of .Manilolia. Hill tliey act upon it ? When did liiey act uptn it ? When \vn-! tin; lirst tiling' done liy tiie (iovernnient of C'anathi to ]>ut in force the Act of ISTt)? Tiie lirHt thinu' ever (h)ne l)y tiie (iovernniont af Canada to put in fore(> tlie Act tliey tlienHelve-i liail passed. \\:\h on tlie --Ntli .[anuary. i>*S.'). SIX I.o.Nci VK.McM ehi))sed ht'fore tliey attempted to i\o tliat justice to tlie lialf-lireedH. wliicdi they had taken power from Parliament to do. at the time. During all that time the (iovernnient wa.s perfectly imniovalile. The honor- aide iiiemher for I'rovciiclier (Mr. Royal) told us the Cioverniuent have done ilieir duty liy the half-hreeds. Sir, if the (.iovernnient had done their duty hy the half-hreoils, liow is it that the half-l)re(!ds .so olieii jietitioiu'd the (iovernnient to ;j;rant tliciu their riudit.s? How irt it that they so often delui^ed the Dijpartiiient with petitions ami deputations ? How is it that tiiey .So oft(;n ajipealed to tlie honorable member for l*ro- vencher himself? I low is it. for instanci', that on the null of N'oveiiilier, ]ss2, Ma.xime lAi)iiie, now a. [iri.-^- oiier in the Manitoba jieiiiteiitiary. IJaptiste JJoucher, wounded in cattle. Charles Lavallee, wounded in but- tle. Tsiilore Dumas, killed in battle, and. several oiiiers addressed Mr. Huck. the airent at Prince Albert, ask- iiiji' him to try and induce the (iovernnient to j;raiit thetn their rights, reiiresenting at the .same time that they had petitioned, and that their petitions had been sui)ported by prominent men. amon^i'st others the honorable .Mr. 11 lyal. the member for Provencher, au'l all without avail ? How is it that these men, iii order to obtain the rights which were denied thein, have gone through such an ordeal as they have, if the 2C4 bPEECU (lovcrnnif.'iil (lid jui-lifc l>y tlifiii ? An !>f:itiifinii \v;h going on nil the ttmo in the North- Went, iind the (lov- t'rnniont wcr^* iiorl'cctly iinnioviilih', Tiic linnnrjilihi liioinlitr I'nr iM'llcchii.'^sf (.Mr. Amynt) "itntfMl tlic otiicr day tiiiit the (iovci nincnl during all those years were M,r>rnEUiN(; am> snouin<;. I lieiit've that cxiircH-iidii was none too stidnu'. hecauso we have evidenci^ of its trutii in the (lnvcrn- meiU's own hlue hook. Would you lielieve it, Mr. bpeai^cr. we have evidence tiiat the Hepartnient had t'urgotten the law whitdi they themselves had placed on the statute hook, we have eviden.c that the (iovcrnnient aetu.ally I'orL'ot that tiie hali-lireeils were entitled to special pri •ilej:es. The tiuni: is a! niont incredihle ; yet here is the evidence ot' it. There was a meeting hehl lit I'rin.'e Alhert of the se, tiers ot" the locality. to take intoconsideration their own grievances and tlie grievances of the hall'-l>reeds as well ; amongst the resolutions carried was the i'ollowing, the third one ; — ,'ii'il Moveil by Mr. Miller, socoiiih'd l)y .^[. S|iciiper, and carrifil unanimrmsly :-—\Vlioi'i>iis tlm Indian tith^ in this dis- trict nv tcriilory has not hfcoinc f.\tinot, and tlie oM settler-, anil li;ill'l)ieeil popiiliitidu ni' .Manitohii were /.'niiiteil siNip in cniinnutiiliiii ot' siuMi titii' ami such iilldwaiiiMf h:\„ not ln-eii maile to those i<>siil<'nt in this territory : — /'I'snlriiJ, t!iiU the right liuiioriil)lo Minister of the Inti-rior be ri'i|iiesteil to irriiiit Bucli scrip to .such settlors, thus |iliifiiiii; tliem on an ei|iiiil footing witii their cuiifvircs in Miinitolia. Thi3 resolution aim{)ly asked that thehalt'djroeds of the North-West should he treated just as THK II.VLF-nrtKEDS OF MAMTOIJA were treated — ^^just as the honorable member for Pro- vencher said tiiey should have been treated ; and what was the answer of the Department? The answer ON TlIK EXiaiTION UK l.OllS Ullil. 205 of tilt-' l>t'l>!irtiiuMit will show prccij^i'ly wliiit I linvt' Htiitetl, tluit tlio lJi'|)iiitiiiojit lit that time in ISSl had roilit'ttcii the IciKir nl'thc statiito they liad pliKnl on ihi'^-tatutc I'ottk lifforo. Iloro is the answer, adilrcssod lo the hui\oral)lo Luwrenco Chirko, who iiad trans- mitted the petition : J)ia'.MtT.Mi;Nr ni' TrO'; Is-natioit, Ottawa UJud Nc.v., ISSl. Sir. — lly ilir<H'lion (it tlii' Miiii'^t"!' of tli'' Inli'rini'. I Imvi- tli(« li'iiuir to ;ii'kiin\vlc'ti.'t' th<' receipl nl' iie'iiiniiil immli-'l in !)>• Villi, of ci'i tain rcM)liitioiis pnssod nl a iiiii-tini,' ot llic inliitl. itaiit« of till' ilistiii'l of I.oi'iio ^'ViiH^li yoii rc^inesciit in tlu' Xoitli-West Couiual;, liol<l at I'i'ince Alln'it ontlic l^tii Oiio. hvv, I SSI. hi i'c|il\ to till' i|ii('>tions involved in tlic several re-iohi- tions coiitaineil iliei'ein, I iiiii to say a-! follows : — Uesolution No. H. As t)y treaty willi tlie Inilians ilieir title to any port ion ol tliu territoiw incliiiled wiiliin tlie 'lis- ti'ict of Loi'Ui' lias been ('.xtiiiguislied, liiis ri'solution wmiM noeil o.\|.lanation. IIKIIE WAS A UKSOI.I'TION calling u[)im tlie (rovernmont to give efTeet to u liiw passed hy tlioinselves — 1<> givo the lialt-hreeds the 8f oeiiil rights to whieh hy law they were entitle(l. iind yet the Cioverniiient ilecdaros that this resolution reipiires ex])lanation. Well, the explanation came, and it was not long in coining. Mr. Clarke answered as follows : — CaUI.TON, N."\\'.T., ii'lth .TAXfARY, ISSl'. Sir, — I hiive the honor to Hoknowk'il.i.'e tlie roceijit of yoiu' letter oftlie 21'ii(l Noveiiilier last, einhoijyini: the reply ot' tlie right lionoriiiile tlai Minister of the Interior to a inoinoiial, hanileil in hy me, of certain resolutions pjissed at a nit!etin,!: of tlie inhabitants of the district of Lome, lieldat Prince .\Uiert on the ISth October, iSSI. \N'ith re^iard to resolution N'o. 3, it is remarked that : " As by treaty with the Intlians, their title to any port ion of ^(^^ .!' ! ■ ;". It'' I -0 ' ! rIi ' t ■ « t 2nf. SI'EECII t!i'! tf'i'i'itoi'y incliuled within the 'listi'iot of Lji-iio lias hoen extinfjuislicd, this io-!ohition woiiM iumnI (.'xplatiatioii." I wouhl respect I'lilly submit that the IiiJian titU'iimlouht lias been oxtiiigiiislieil, luit eviilontly not tluitof the liall'breod resi'leiUs oi' the North-West 'IN^rritorioc. The Govoruiuent of the I'ciininon ol' Canada have repeat- eilly aoknowieiijioii tue ijjht in tht; soil of the lia H'-bree' I in- habitants, as is provoi ny th(^ Parliament of Canada in 1^70, 3.1 Vic, oh:i]i. '■'>, section "d, as lollows. Tlion he rocitos all tlio acts hy which the Parlia- ment of ('anada had declared, tinu; and again, that the lialfdireeds were entitled to compensation for their Indian title; and goes on ; It will h(i seen, therefore, tluit from the lirst ini'ietni-'nt, in IS70, to the last, in IST'.t, the ri;:hts in tlui soil of the half- breeds h.ivo l)eoii reeo^iii/.ed by the < iovei'ninent, and provi- sion uiide for the extini;iii.shmont of tle>ir title. This explanation was certainly chiar enough, Imt the CTOvcrnincnt at once rfdapsed into the state ol" iinnioval)ility in which they had !)een living, and the Minister fell again into the state of reijoso which he had l)een enjoynig. fo- so many years Ix'lbre. The halt'-brceds petitioned ag lin, they sent their friends upon delegations to Ottawa ; they sent tlu^ honorable memb(!r for Provencher; yet the (ioverument never took any action in the ntatter until th(;2Sih ofJanuary, ISS."). when (he Minister fell his seat shaken by the first waves of the tenii)est that was soon toswecjiover the country. TOO l.ATE ! TOO I.ATE ! TOO LATE ! When the seeds of discontent have long been germi- nating, wdien hearts have long been swelling with long accumulating bitterness, and when humiliations and disapi)ointnients have made men discontented and sullen, a small incident will create a conllagra- tion, just as a spark dropped on the i)rairie, under ON THE EXKCITinX OK LoUIS KIEL .1)1 certain circumstances, will kindle a widespread and unquenchable fire. Then the Government moved, but it was too lace. Tiie incident occurred — what was it? The honoraljle meml)er for I'rovencher told us wdiat it was. After the government had announced a commission, a man liad the imprudence to say that commission would not come, but that bullets would come instead ; and this statement of the honorable j^'entleinan is corntborated by a statement ofArch- bishoi) Tachc in a letter published in Decem1)er last, in which, si)eaking of the <'ommencement of the rebel- lion, he said : The assurance tliat n i,oiiiiiiissioii wduKl he soiit ua> not aecepted. Peoiilc [iret'ci'ii'd to l)rli(n'c a riini'ir whioh uciit to sliow that, iiisteal ol'i-'rantinir thi'm thoir ri}.')its, the authorities woi'c to si'iiil irons Ibi' thfir lea h-r an I buHcts for thrsc wlio would protect him. Tiiat conviction ))rodiic<^d ih^ result vvhicii was to be e.X|i<'Cted. Tiie liall-hreeds tlloULrht tiiey would I'Csist and defend thianselves. J')adly armed, willio\it aniniu- nition,^or provisions, they took iio.ssiv-sioii of the stores in the vicinity. The unfortunate attack made .c.'ainst them at iJuck Liikc was a declaration ol'war. It will strike many minds now that there is a great anahtoy IioIwcmmi the; urigin of' tiiis rebelliim and the origin of the rcdicllion in iiuwer ('ann<la in ]s:;7. An agitation had been going on in Lower Canada for many years, as it had l)een going on in the North-\\'e-t for many years, and it was when the (Jovernment attempted to arrest tiie leaders of the movement tliat th<! rc!)ellion Ijrokc out : and. without going any further. I am glad to recall tiio fac< that, deplorable as was this rebellion in f-ower ("anaila. it secured at once to the Low(>r ('.inadians the rights wliicli tb.ey had been vainly seeking for so many years. an<l it secured this fiu'ther result: That although the ])opu- lation had been hitherto in favor o|'rel>ellion they at mice liecame THE MOST K.\rrin'!i. -rn.iEcTs England ever had. In the same manner, tiiough the ,W:.. ■m ' I 268 SPEECH last result lisis not yet Iteon obtained, it may be and Avill he. obtained, T liave no douljt, in tbe Xortli-West, because tbo immediate result of the rebellion tliore Ikis i)een to secure to tbe hall'-lH'eeibs tbe riuiits whieb liad l)eeu denied to tbeui up to tbat time. T bav<i charged the (roverninent Avith not only bavinj: been iieglij.^eut in tlie duty tboy owed to IIm; ball'lireeds, liut with denying to tbe ball'-breeds tbe rights to •which tliey were entitled. T charge them again with, not ignoring only, hut a. .'.uilly refusing, of(b\--ign iiforethought, the rights to wliich the half- hi'eeds were entitled. Tlie tirst order tbe (Iovernin(>nt pulsed under tbe .statute was that of tbe 2'^th .T.iivuary, ISS'). What was that oriler? Its [irovisions are IMPOliTANT TO (•o.\sii>i:ii. 11; ■« f :!f. in view of the charge which T have preferred against tbe Government. The order runs as tbllow.s : — < »n a iiiPinor.iniluin ilat(> I i!iitli .laniiiuy, 1 ^^.■), from tlie ^linister of tlio lutoiior, siiluiiittini,' that it is (lesii'ablc. with ii view (if.si'tlliii;: cquitiiMy tin' claiiiis (il'tlic li.aif-hrceil.s in Jlani- tolia aiiij tli(> Noi'tii-\\'i'st 'i'cnitorics. who wouid have liecii cnti- tlcil In land hiii.l they ic-^iilcil in Matiitolia at the time oltim tninsl'or ami lilt^l tlioir claims in <liie cour.so under tlic Mani- toba Act, and also of those who, ilioui.'h resiilint; in Manitolia and ('(juitably entitled to participate -n the izrant, diil not do so, to ascertain tlie ninnber olsucli half-hrcoils, and rccom- laenihng that he ho autliori/od to obtain an onumeration of tliem, anil to employ three piM'sons to make siicli enumeration. The provisions of tbe order, you see, were iir.i^t to cause an enumeration to l)e made of tbe half-breeds Aviio were entitled to comjjensation, in order to settle equitably the (daims of those half-breeds. What was to be tbat equitable settlenuMit? The order is vague, it is silent. \Vas tbe settlement to be tbat which was granted to tbe half-breeds of Manitoba, as was insi- nuated tlie other day by the lionoralde meml>er from Provencher (Mr. Royal")? I say no; I say tbat tbe ON THE EyECVTION O]' I.oriS RIEI. mj -ettleiuont that tlie Ciovornnient then conteiuphitod, and ^Yhich is called e(juita))lo, was not the s^ettlcment Avhich had been made in i'avor of the lialt'-hreeds ot" Manitohu. I may liere recall what was the latter settlcnient. The hall'-hrceds of Manitoba were pven, first, a free grant of the plots of land which they occupied, to the extent of Hid acres each, as whites ; they were given, in the second place, in KXn.M'l'loN OK THE INDIAN TITl.K, land to the extent of inO acres for each head ol'a family, aad land oi' scrip to the extent of "JIU acres for every minor, ^\'as this to be the settlement which was to be given by the Government under order of the l*Sth Janiuiry? i say it was not; and Icall to witness upon this [)oint the language spoken by the First Minister himself on the 2(itli March last, when this matter came before this Jlouse. On that occasion he said : .Vi- ;i whole tlio hnll'-hroeils have Ih'imi toM that if they (lesiit'ii to 1)0 con-sidcroil as JiKiiiiiis tluTo arc? most lilicral rescrvfs that tlii'V coiiMgo to with thcotiuT.s; but lliat if they il^.-iriMl to In' i()ii.>si(k'ieil white men tlicy could fret lOo acres of hind as iioincstciids. Jint they arc not satisticd wiiji that : tiicy want to get land scrip of ccju .1 quantity — I tliink u[)wards of liUO acres — ami then get, as a mutter ol' cour.^o, theii' home- istead-s as weU. You see, therefore, that the (iovernnient. on the 2r)th March, ISS."). was not disposed to treat the half- breeds of the ^;orth-^\'est Territori(>s as they had treated the half-breeds of Manitoba. If they luid l>een dip posed to do so, the First .Minister would have said: We will give them, as we have given the half-breeds of Manitolia. the plots (jI' land on which they reside, as free grants of Hid acres each, this to be their rights as homesteaders ; and as Indians we will give them, in extinguishment of their rights to the Iiulian title. Land scrij) to the extent of IfiU acres for each head of a family and 24(1 acres to each minor, No ; the language '■i:f>-' !■ \i. .J •' ' I' 270 SPEEC'II of the First Miuistor sliows that he was opposed to their l)eiiig treuted in this way. He said : " It they wanted to lio treated as Indians, tliey could go on the reserves ; but iftliey wanted to be treated as whites, they could have a iiomestead like other wliites." Tlierel'ore I ( IIAROE TIIK GOVEUNMENT with this, that, when they pa'sed the order of 28th January, LSSo, it was not their intention to afford the same justice to tlie half-i)recds of the North- West Ter- ritories that had l)een afforded to those of Manitolm. The intentions then expressed in the language T have justijuoted from the First Minister were carried out four days later, on the oOth March, when another Order in Council was passed, and how did tliat Order in Council read? It reail as follows : — ''he MinistiT oi'tlic liUC'iior is nt'tlic opinion tluit it isex- peilioiit tliut tliose claims should ho satisliod liy ^'ranting: First, to each liaU'-brceil lieidof a family icvsiilciit in tiio .North West TciTitoiics, outside ol' the limits of Manitoba iircvious to the l")th .hily, InTu, the lot or portion of land ot which ho is at ju't'scnt in /'"/((«,//*/(' and undis|iuti'd octMipiition l)y virtue of residence upon and cultivation tln'rcof, to the extent of IfiO acres, and it the lot or portion ol' land for which he is in hmKi /.'ill occuj'atioii as alore^aid should I'e K ss tlian hiO acres, the dillerence to he made up to him liy an issue of scriji. roileem- able in lauil, at the I'ato ot'one dollar ]ier acre, and in case of each half-lireed head ol a family residing in the North- West Territories iiri'vious to the j.-jtli day of duly, I S7(l, who is not ,it j)re>fnt in lnii/a Jhlc occuiiation of ans' land, scriii be issued, ledoemablo in land, to the extent oii^liid. The same provision is thereafter made for the mi- nors. Let us examine this Order in Council. Wliat docs it provide for? It i)rovides sim])ly this, that the half-lireed shall get a grant of lOO acres as settler or homesteader, hut that nothing sliall be given him in extinguishment of his Indian title. If the lialf-breed is in possession of a plot of KKI acres, he is to receive a free grant ol' it — notiiing more : if his lot is not IflO ON TlIK EXECUTION OK LOVIS HIIlI. jicreH. lie is to receive the difference— nothing more ; so that it is iniinii'est nt that date, under this Order in Coiincih it was not tiie intention of the (iovernniont to ^Ivetotlie lialt'-hreed.soltlie Nortii-West Territories tlie i=anie rijihts tliat liad been given to theliali'-hreeds of Manitolia. Tiie commission being issued under this order, it was not possible for the commissioners to do otherwise tlian to carry out the provisions contained in the order. They had no authority to go to any greater length ihaii they were authorized by that order. THE COMMISSION WAS ISSl'EI) to Mr. Street, Mr. Cioulet and >[r. Forget, and as soon as they came to the North-West, as soon as they came to investigate the matter involved, they saw at once that this jiroposed settlement would be no settlement at all. that the half-ljreeds would be still dissatisfied ; and upon tlie -1th April. Mr. Street te]egra])hed to Mr. Mac])her£on,then Minister of the Interior, as follows :- ll'ileeiroil by lialflirooils, wrnild it not lie advi.-^altlf to iriaiit sni]', one sixty or two Ibity ilollfirs, jioiiuiltiii^ tliciu to ao- i,iiiie title to lands in occupation tliioutrli possession? ( (thcr wise, (iovernniont really gives nothing tor Indian title. Do you wish me to give notice that coiiiiijission will take evidence ot claims other than those ol' half hieeds ? I'eaice coiicuis in liist sugiTfstion. Here is the telegram in which the commis.'^ioner jit once points out that, if he carries out the Order in Council, the Ciovernment gives nothing to the half- breeds for the extinguishment of the Indian title. Then the next day, :i letter followed up the telegram from Mr. Street, aiul it is still more signilicaiit : — Mv DiiAi; Sir David, We arrived here early this iiioniiiig. a'ld I met my lellow- commissioners at the Dnminion han<ls ( tflice at lo o'clock. They introduced the suhject as to ivliicli 1 telegraphetl you I ', ! 272 .«PEECn :' W" m 1 i!i yostoi'dfiy, rniil spoko vory stron^jly as to its boiiif; one which WM3 likely ti) he 11 soriows stiimliiing Idooiv in our ijciliiigs with tlic lialt'-l)riH!(i^. Lest you sjioulil not lully Iiavc iitidi'i'stooil my tt'lfgrain I will slinrtly .state tjie jioint. Sii|>iiose wo liiid tliat a h.ill'-bi'eeil lias [)Qon njmii ami, . since l")th.liily. ISTO, in (jci;ii[pati()n ni'a iiariM^lol' say UiU acfcs. nmhir ciixaimstaiu'cs which, if he wci'o a white setllei', would entitle him to a fiiaiit of the land nndiM' the hoaicstoad clauses uiiilei' the Honiinion I,and Act, under the .luthoiity we now ijnssesp we could, if ho were the head of a tauiily, allow liiiii uothini; nioic than the ICiU a I'e,, ; vve could allow hiiii nothinj; lor his claim as a half- breed, and, ina-much as the < icverniueut has all alouj,' been ])Ui'iioitiiii.' to deal wit h the half-hl'-eds as il they h;iil some eeniial ri>:hl- Ijcyond tlio-e ol niiliuaiy incominir settlers, my fellowcomiuis.-ioner.s >ay that L'real dissatisfactiun and disa|i- jpointment will lie created il we ••ive to these occu])yini^ half- breeils < idy that which any ordinary settlor can claim, and nothiui.' foi' the i'xtin.i:ui.^hmi'nt ol his Indian title. Mv. I'l-arce <liscussc»il the matter very fully with us auil concurred in the advisahilily of our ohtaiuin;;, if jio^sible, the power to enable us to allow the half-lireed to claim the laud ocoujiii'd by huu under the honu'sti-ad prfivisions, and in addition to irive him his scrip for the ??Mp() or Jr'L'lii, as the ease may be, for the Indian title. Til ERIC WAS TlIK POLICY which was sufrp;csted by Mr. Street its soon as he liad c'oniinciiced to investigate the matter, and wl>at was the answer? The very following day tliere was this telegram which s-houhl have lietn sent six nr seven vcars Ijelore at least; — \V. r. U. STKKirr, il ('., Chairman, iralf-broed Commission, AVinnipej.'. No objection t"* your sugiiestion to give scrip, and allow occupants to acijuire title through jjossession, when desired by them. At last justice have been given to these jjcople. For seven lung years they had petitioned, and peti- ^■¥^ (IN TIIK EXECTTION Ol' I.oris RIKI, tinned in viiin. On the '2'^')th March, tlio Prime Minister, in Ills i)la(:o in lliis IIoupo, gave it a? liis iiolicy tliat these men were nut entitled to any Piioeial iirivilcfres. that they liad ix) sucli riglit.s as were given tu tlieir ci'iifrercs in Manitolia, tliat tliey were to lie treated not as half-hrecds, not as a special elans, Init either as In- dians or whites. At last justiee Avas coming to them. At last what they had lieen )»etitioning for so n.any years was coming to them, and what was the cause? In ten days, from the i'Cith ol' .Miirch to the (Ith ol" April, the (iovernment had altered their policy and had given what they had refused for years. What was the cause? The Imllets of Duck Lal<c; flie rehellion in the North ^^' est. The (Iovernment had heen refus- ing for years, and at last these men took their lives and lihertics in their hands, and at last the (iovern- ment came down and gave them what they were en- titled to. T ajipeal now to any i'riend of liherty in this House; I appeal not only to the Liberals who sit lie- side nie,but to any man wlio has A r.iUTisn iiKAiiT IN HIS inacAsT, and I ask, when subjects of Her ^lajesty have been ])etitioning for years for their rights, an 1 tliose rights have not oidyljeen ignored, but have been denied. and when these men take their lives in their hands and rebel, will anyone in this Hou^e say that these men, ■when they got their rights, should not liave saved their heads as well, and that the criminals, if crimi- nals there were, in this rebellion, are not those who I'ouglit and liled and died, but the men who sit on those Treasurj" l)enche9 ? Sir, reliellion is always an evil, it is always an offence against the jiositive law of a nation, it is not always a moral crime. The .Minis- ter of Militia, in the week that preceded the execution of Kiel, stated his sentiments of rebellion in theee ■words: "I hate all rebels ; I have no sympathy, good, liad or indifTerent, with rebellion." .'^ir. what is hate- ful — I use the word which the honorable gentleman s I' I- I; i; ■hi:.: I' •■til ■■ ^' 274 SPEECH made use of— wliat is liateful is not rel.iellion, Imt is the (lesyotipm wliieli induces rebellion ; wliat is liate- ful are not rebels, but the men who, having the en- joyment of \)o\ver, do not discharge the duties of ])o\ver; the men who, having the power to redress wrongs, refuse to listen to the jietitions that are fent to them ; the men who, when they are asked for a loaf, give a stone. The honorable gentleman hates all rebels, he says. I wonder if he will extend his hatred to the great rebel whose proud statue stands almost at my arm's length. I venture to say that if that man whose statue has been erected here by the Canadian (iovernment had been living to-day, and had occupied his place on the Treasury benches, he would have re- membered that he was once a rebel. I have seen the day when the Minister of Militia had not for the rebel- lion the horror he now professes. I have seen the day when the Minister of Militia had not for rebels the deej) hatred which he proclaimed to the world alnmst M'itbin the hearing of a condemned man ; I have seen the day when the Minister of Militia had great sym- jiathy in his heart for rel)ellion, when he had deep sympathy in his heart for the very rebel whom he had in bio mind, and whose death-knell he was in advance ringing, when he was proclaiming his hatred ofreliel- lion at Winni])eg. Riel was once before a rebel ; he was indicted before, not for rebellion, but for murder connected with rebellion. The honorable gentleman who now has such a hatred for rebels spoke on that occasion. Resolutions were introduced in this House on a certain occasion to EXTEND AN AMNESTY for all offences connected with the rebellion and to all oifenders, Iliel and a few others excejited. and granting an amnesty even to them, but with certain restrictions. The honorable gentleman spoke on that occasion. Did he then proclaim, as he now does, his hatred of rebellion? Did he speak the language which ox THE EXECITION (»K I.OIIS KIEL 275 lie spoke lately in NViiini[)eg ? Did he say he hated all rel)els ? " I have a hatred of all rehels ; I have no sympathy, good, bad or indifferent, with rebellion. " No ; hut this is what he said ; MPr Mr, Curoii said tliat he will vote against tho resolution because it does not atlonl a complete solution of tlie North- West (litliciilty. Ilavini; votfil atiainst the oxiiuNloM of iJiol from this House, he cminot vote for liis biini^hnu'nt from the country. A complete amnesty is the only praotioiil solution, and lai is sure that the same tUlliculties will recur next year. "T'lTdMr. Speaker, that was the pontinient of the honor- able gentleman at that time. Well, if on that occasion Riel was entitled to a full amne.^ty, was he not entitled, at least, to a commutation of sentence on this occasion, when this last rebellion had not been darkened by such an act as darkened the pages of the first rebellion ? The honoral)le gentleman in those days stated again and again that the first reljellion was justified. If the fh'st rebellion was justified, was not the second re))elliou equally justified? Where would lie the half-breeds to-day if it had not Ijecn for this rel)ellion? Would they have olitained the rights which they now enjoy ? I say, Sir, that the Canadian (iovernmcnt stands convicted of having yielded only to rebellion, and not to the just repre- sentations iif the half-breeds, and of having actually forced them into infcurrection. .Mr. Speaker, such were my s(!ntiments, and I spoke them elsewliere. I appeal, upon this occasion, as I did elsewhere, TO KVEKV FUIEXI) (i F I.IHEKTV, to all those who, during these twenty-five years past, have felt tlieir hearts thrill whenever a struggle for freedom was going on in any corner of tlie world ; with the Italians, wlien they delivered theh- coimtry from the yoke of Austria; with the Americans, in their stupendous struggle for national unity and for 276 SPEECH Un/' the Fupi'vossion of Afrionn sluvcry ; Avitli the ^foxi- (■iuif, in their successl'ul iitloiupt to rcsi?t the foreign (loniinntion A\hiih tlic French Kni^eror bought to inii)()f-e on them ; uith tlie French themselves in tln'ir fienerou? tlieujili olten mi?p:ui(l(Ml ctToits to estnbliFli iiniongf^l thenii-elverf tlie hulwiirk i>f freechmi, ]ijirliu- mentiuy and re=j;onsilile goveinineiit ; with the Dannliinn populiition?, when they iittemjiled to rid themselves of tlie de^'riuling (hmiiniition of tiic Tuiks: iind when !it hist— at hist — a section of our own eouiilrynien rose in arms to elaiii: rijrhts long denied ihem, rights which were iicnrdiately acknow- ledged to lie just, as soon as they were a^ked witli lullcts. are we to have no sym]iathy with tlu'm? Though, ]Mr. Sjieaker. these men were in the wrong; though the reheliion had to he put d<iwn ; though it Avas ihe duty of tlie Canadian (Jovernment to assert its authority and vindicate the law ; still. T ask any friend of lilierty. if there is not n feeling risintf in his heart, stronger than all reasoning lo the eontrarv, tlij'.t these men vv-ere excusable? .Such were, ^fr. Speaker, my sentiments. I sjioke them ebewhere. I have had. since that time, occasion to realize that I have greatlv shocked Tory editors and Torv memhers. .Sir. I KNOW WHAT TOUV I.OYAI.TV Is. »! ■ Tories have alway.s been famous for preaching loyaltj' to others. Tories have always been famous for beii g loyal, as long as it was protitable to be so. Under the reign of James, the Tories were gushing in their loyalty as long as the tyranny of the king fell iijion Whigs and l)issenters; Imt when at laet the tyranny of .Tames fell upon the Tories themselves and the Church of ilieir heart, their slavish notions received a most salutary shock. They took side with the Whigs, and horror of horrors, they shouldered the nnisket, joined the Prince of Orange and put him on the thione; and I believe that to this day the Tories ON Tiiic i';xi:i iTioN {)V i.oris imki. will H;iy tliiit it was a hajipy tiny lor Kuiflan 1 wlicii that ri'li(!lli()ii tddk pli'.co. If\vo[)a-!9 from JCnglaiid to this country, wo liavc the same talti to tell. In ISl'J the Tories were •ru-'hiiii!: in thi'ir loyalty a? lou}? ii3 they ex|i('ft(Ml the (iovcrnor (icneral U) lie disloyal to the i)eo[)le, hut when they I'ouml the (lovornor (leneral was loyal to the iieople, their own loyalty oo/ed out oftlieir liodiesand vanished into th'-i air. They did not shouhler the musket— that would have hecn too nohle a weapon — l)ut with ej>\irs and stones they pelted the representative of Her Majesty. They did not shoulder the musket, hut with pen and ink they wrote and si,ii:ned annexation manit'estoe?. And, .Mr. Speaker, if \ve eontiuue the stoiy, even down to the daj'S since this (lovernment has heen in power, we find that when they introduced the National I'olicy, and when it was) oD)ecte<l that that policy was unfair ami un;.'euerous tti Kni,dand. iind that it mi<!;ht possiljly endantier liritish connection, the cool Tory answer was; "So much the worse for J5ritish connection. " Sir. this is Tory loyalty. Ready they are to-day to sacrifice British connection, if British connection stands hetween them and their selfishness ; ready they are to-day to sacrifice liritish connection if it stands lietween thetn and their enjoyment of power ; ready they are to sacrifice British I'onnection for mere sordid <!;reed, hut they atfect. forsooth, to he shocked when we ])rofess sym))athy for men who, in the West, have l)een vindiciiting their rights luof^ denied. Sir, I Avill not I'oceive any lectures on loyalty from men with such a record. I am a iiritish suhject, and I value the proud title as much as any one in thi.s House. But if it be expected of mo that I sliall allow fellow- countrymen unfriended, undefended, unprotected and unrepresented in this TFouse, to he trampled under foot by this (iovernment, I say that is not what I understand by loyalty, and I would call that slavery. I am a l>ritish subject, but my loyalty is not of the lips. If honorable gentlemen opposite will read history, they will iind that my ancestors, in all their 278 .srEE(;u M Btruji^les ngainjit tlie liritish Crown in the \n\st, nover 8()Ut;lit iinylliinji else thun ').!.■ !!i :,>■ Til UK TKFATKH As IlltlTISII SL'IMECT.S, nnil as aoon us they were treiitod a? IJritisli Hulijcct,'", thmif^'h tlioy had not lor^^ntUMi tlie huid nl'tlicir aiiccs- lors. lli'/y liccaiiic anumjist the niost lnyal rtuhjcct.s that Kii^'hiiid ever had. Sir, .since our loyalty ha.s liccii iiii))U)i:iu'(I by houorahlc ficntlonicn op])ositf'. T am inclined (o quote the .s(MUiiiient!J ot' niy race and of my jiaiiy, a.'* they were e.\|iresse{l by my honor;ilile i'riond iVuni Mcgantic (Mr. Lan^elier) on an occasion which was not political. liast summer certain dele- jrates from lioards of tiade in I'ranco visited Canada. They were entertaineu by the Cori)oration of QueliCc which preHcnted them an addre.s,«. and tiio lionoruhlf. nienilier for Megantic, in his (luality of Mnyor. spoke as follows : Till' fate ol aims liiis (IcciccmI tli.'it our ] olitical <lo3(inies sliouM lie iiiiili'il witli the ilcstinics 1)1' Kiiir!aM'l, and wlion \vc lon.^'ifler all the ailvaiitagc's whicii we have reaped iVoin tliat state ol' things, our regret at beiiii.' sepiiiated from France is not with<iiit ooiniieiisation. When we can estatilisii with France e.\tendeil eoniniorcial relations, nothini: more sliall w(( want. We preserve a |ioliti<'al rfiiiiiic of which we are proml, and we (ilitaiii at tiie same time tlie satisfaction of i)roserving our inteii'sts and .>entimi'nts. This is the loyalty of the French Canadians to-day. They are true to their ant'cstors. And who should oliject? We speak the French languajre, and if you look at it from a purely utilitarian jioiut of view It ia a great disadvantage, liecause we have afterwards to learn a foreign language to take our part in the national movement of this country. Every one must learn TO SPKAK IT TIIK JiEST HE CAN in his own pooi' wax. It would jierhaps be best, from ox Till': K.\'E(TTIi>N OF I.DIM.'^ ItlF.r, 270 a utilitiirinn point of view, lohavn only unn laiii^'iiaKO ; Itut tlio Froncli is the hiiij^uaj^fi ofour niotlnM's, the liiiimiiif^f which r»Miills to mir inin(l-4 the nio-tt sacroil iCj-^oiMiition.s whicli first diiwii on tlit; iicjirt ol'iuiin and wiiicii can novor dio out. and so lon^ as tliere are I'rcncli mnflu'i's the liinguaiio will imt die. Vet those sentiments ai'i! i|uite c()nsiHlent with our loyalty to Knjiliind, and loyal wt; arc to Eniiland ; and iff were called to illustrate it, [ could not do so hetter than l>v quotinfi the remark ot' a French Canadian lady to .\ir. I>e liclveze. who, in ISV), visileil Caiiiida l)yoriler of Naiiiileon 1 II. : " Our hearts are with France. i)Ut our arms are to Knpland. " Hut loyalty must Ite roci- prncjij. Tt is not enou^di I'or the sul)j(!ct to he loyal to the Crown; the Crown must also l)e loyal to the suliject. So tar as Kujiland is C(Uicerned sIh? has done her duty nohly, generously; but this (ioV(,'rnmc::t has not done its duty towards the halt-hreeils. The (ii)vernment are .shocked, and their friends profess to he shncked, liecause those mnn claim their ri.irhts iind demanded them with l)ullets. Have the ( lovernment heen loyal to those half-breeds? If thev iiad lieea loyal to the bill f- breeds, no such trouble would have occurred. If the (lovernment dn not respect th(! hiw tbemselve-i. and if afterwards men, to vindicate their rifjbts. take weapons in their hands and brave the lawH. T say the Covernment are iiound to searcli tlieir consciences and see if they have jfiveii occasiim for rebellion, and if they have to give the benelit to the guilty one^. This is what we, in Lower Canad.'i. have been claiming, and this is one of the reasons why wt; have felt so warndy on this (\uestion. .'^uch is not, however, the doctrine of the (Jovernment. THE DDCTIilNK Ol" Till-: (ioVKUNMKNT is not put in that way in the memorandum which was issued some time after the execution of Louis Kiel. Shortly after that execution the (.tovernment thought it proper, and I do not blame them for it, to put their 280 f-PEECH [f^ '- V; defence before the country. Tlioy did it in ;i very fible paper signed l)y tiie hit*; MiniHter of Juntifc, Sir Alexander Ciuupljell. In the very fir.st word? lie speaks as follows : 'rii(> (iiiponi'iits of tlio ( iovcM-nini'iit have assi rtcd tli.it tlir relx^llini) wa-; prnvnl<0(I, it' not jIl^tilil'll, Ky tli<'ir mal ii Imini^- tnition n|' tlio atl'air.s of the Xoith-Wcst Toi ritnrii's aiil iiiat- tentioii to the just cliiiiii'S oi'tlio lialf-l)r(^?ils. With tliis i[\il'^- tioii. nhit'li has l)0(>ii iiia<l(> one ol party politii's, it. is not tlimijilit liocoiiiiiij: to di'al hcri'. Upon such a charge when maih^ in a constitutional manner, the Govoiuinent will he responsiljle to the I'cpresentatives of the people, and l)efore them tiii'V vvill l)e [ircpareil to meet and (Usiirove it. That the (iovcrnnient should l>e compelled to sulmiit their reasons for having so aeted goes as n matter of course. Tlu'V were to give 1 heir reasons — they were res|)()nsi1ile to the people. Tiiis is ;i, nn.Mer of course. But this is not what is contended here. Tlie conten- tion laid (U)wn is that when the people of Canada are tn exanune the action of the (iovernment in executing Riel, the (jueslion whether or not the rel)ellion was provoked is not to he taken into consideration. Was there ever a more unconstitutional, more intolerahle doctrine propounded? T say it is contrary to the true (loctrinej'or if there is any occasion when the (!i>vern- ment is hound to search into the matter to s(!e if i)ro- Yocation has been given for the committal of an ofTence, which has involved the death penalty, it is when the ofTcnce charged is rCUEI.Y A POLITICAI. OXE. It is always with regret I am sure, that the Minister of Justice finds himself unable to report in favor of the commutation of a death sentence. Whenever in this country a sentence of death is ])assed upon any of >ur fellow beings, it is the duty of the .Minister of Justice to emiuire into the causes of the crime in order to see if the requirements of the law would not ON THE EXECCTIdX OF I.nns UIET, 281 be oi|Uiilly met iftlio death sentence were not carried out. Nothing- is iel't liehiud that can h'ad to ihat desired end. And yet we are told liere tliat wlien a man is charged with a jiolitical crime, the (iovern- ment arc; not to eonsi(U'r whether there was provoca- tion or not liy the Crown ? With the (iovernment all rehellions are alike, whether provoked or ni>t. and they iiave all to he treated in tlie same way. You are to loi>k at all rclielliuns as utterly had. You have to jiiok U)i(in the reljeliion of. Junius llnitus and the attempted rehellion oi'C'atulino aseciuall^' had. F say. on the contrary, that this is one of the frrnundii on which I arraign the (iovernment. It was their duty, when they came to consider wlicther the death sen- tence should he carried out on lliel. to consider Avhether he had received jirovocation t'cn- the deed which hrought him into that situation ; and having tailed to do so, the (iovernment. on their own con- fession, stand guilty of having tailed in a duty, which is one of the most sacred that ever c.au fall ui)on man. Thedocfrir ol'lhe (iovernment is S(> untenaMe that they could n, adhere to it to the last. Even liefore i^ir Alexander Camphell had reaidied the end of ids factum, he abandoned his theory, for in tiie very bottom lines, he tay.s: Whethi'i' rohcllion alone slioiiM l)P pnnisliod with death is a (|iiestion u|ion wliicli opmioiis lu'iy 'litter. 'l'i(\i-on will j)rol)iil)ly over i-einuiTi wliat it iiiw.iysi has been among civilised nations, tlie iuLrliest of all crimes ; hut siicli ouiiviction I'or tliat oilenee must he treated and clis|ios(>d of l)y the Executive (iovormneiit iijion its own merits, and witli a lull cnnsider:ition of all the attendaiU cii'cumstancos. In tliis particular instance, it was a second otl'ence, and, as on tiie first occaaion The ex-Minister of .Tustice commenced by saying that we should not look into the causes which had induced the rebellion ; he luid conveniently left aside looking into the causes, but he no less conveniently looked into the fact tiiat this was a second ofTence. 5^o it was. and for the second time tlie (iovernment 'i '0'' : ,m > 2S2 SPEECH WAS CUII/rV OK THAT REBELLION ; for the second time Riel was a rebel, and was a re))el on account of tlio conduct of the present Government. Sir, I am not of those who look upon Louis Riel as a hero. Nature had endowed him with many brilliant qualities, but nature had denied him that supremo (|uality without which, all other qualities, however brilliant, are of no avail. Nature had denied him a well-balanced mind. At his worst he was a suliject fit for an asylum, at his Iiest he was a religious and l)olitical monomaniac. Ikit he was not a Itad man — I do not Ijelicve at least hat he was the bad man that he has been rei)resented to be in a certain press. It is true that at the trial a most <lamaging fact was brought against him ; it is true that he had ofrere<l to accojit a bril)e from the (iovernment. IJut justice U> his memory requires that all the circumstances con- nected with the fact, should be laid before the House. If he accepted this money, it is evident that in his own confused mind it was not with a view of l)etra\'- ing the caune of his fellow countrymen — S(Mne honorable members: — Yes, yes. .Mr. Laurior : — Why, .Mr. Speaker, I do not exi)ect tliat tlio memliers who now interrupt me. would deal in llie same manner, but, Sir, I give them the credit iif having I i^' -^ I'.KTTEIl BALAXOEO MINUS than I^ouis Riel. In his own dazed mind it is evident that if lie accepted the money, it was not with a view of betraying liis fiUow countryn'.en — it was with tlie view of working f )r them in anotlier way, since he said, lie would start a paper in the United States and raise u]) the other nationalities. An honoralile member: — Another rebellion. Mr. Laurior: — I grant tliat if that reasoning had been made by a man in his senses, such as an hono- rable gentleman on the other side, it would be enough m ■ i, : }'■>-: n u ox THE EXECTTION OF LOUIS UIEI. 283 to stifle any sympathy we could have for him : but Ave must make due allowances for the fact that it is proved that if he was not actually insane, no man can deny that upon this subject "of politics his mind Avas not right or sound ; and of course in the case of ii mind unsound or insane we cannot ai)ply the same tests that we should apply to a reasonable mind — it would be unfair to do so. That ho was insane, seems to me, however, beyond the possibility of controversy. When the reports first came here last spring and in the early summer, of his doings and sayings in the North- West, when we heard that he was to establish monarchies in the N'orth-West, that he was to depose the Pope and establish an American Poi)e, thopo who did not know him believed he was an impostor, l)Ut those who knew him knew at once what was the matter with him. In the Province of Que1)ec there was not an instant's hesitation about it. Almo.st every man in that Province know that he had been several times confined in asylums, and therefore it was mani- fest to the people of the Quebec that lie had fallen into one of those misfortunes with which he was alllicted. When his counsel were engaged and comiueiK'ed to l)repare for his trial, they saw at once that if justice to him and onl\' justice to him was to be done, their plea should l)o a plea of insanity. It has been said that the trial was a fair one. I deny it. I will not go over some of the arguments which have been put forward on this subject, luit T ask the special atten- tion of the House to this fact : This nian asked for a uionth's delay tV)r his trial : h(^ obtained eight days. Was that justice ? WAS THAT P.KlTrSil .MsTICE? Was that giving fair play to the accused ? When he swore that justice to his case demanded a dehi}' of one month, could there be any public reason that militated against that demand? Ciuild there be any public reason why such a recjuest as that should not t il 118 M f ;. I. 28-1 SPEECH luivo l)een trrantod ? and yot it was roTused. Again, when ho asked lor \vitnusf«c3, was tlio icquest granted liini? No, it was again refused. I again recall the attention of tlie House to the aflidavit which Kiel gave, that lie wanted several witnesses, amongst otliei's (ialiriel Dninontand ,A[ichel Dumas and others. T grant at once that to hring (lahriel Dumont and Michel Duma? to tiiis country', hoth of whnm were lugitives t'ri'in justice, was hardly possihic; hut lemomher that he asked as an alternative a thing wliich was peri'ectly leasihle. and it was denied him. lie askod thi.s alternative under oath : .5.1 I 'I'. ■>"■'■ Tint unless th ' < Jav.M'iiiuf'iit of tliis t;o:inti'v or thU bond- riilile I'oiii't do iiro\-iil<-' tin' means with which to seeuic tlic iitfeinliUico o!' tlu' iiliovi'-n'ini'^<l witiu^sses lief'orc this coai't, it is essi-ntiiil to my ilcf'oui'e that the various i)a[)ors, wi'itiniTs ami floiunnmts t.iki'ii from meat the time of my siu'ren<KM' to ilfueial Mici'lletoii, ami taken 1)V him luul liis olHcers from my house snliseiiiientlv, sh.iuld be ])laceii in the hands of my t'oimsel for tli>'ir e.xamination and consideration, previous to lieing put upon my trial. Sir, you see the treatment oftlie accused on that occasion; he asked one oi'two things. lie said either ()rocure me the attendance of certain witnesses. Cialiriel Duntont and Michel Dumas and otliers, or if you cannot or will not do that, give to my counsel tlje papers taken from me at iJatoche. Was there ever a more moderate or reasonahle petition presented to a court of justice? When this man simply said : I do not ask those witnesses if you cannot give them to me, hut tiiere is one thing you can give to me: you oan give me communication of my papers which were taken from me at IJatoclie. WHY WERE THEY XOT GIVEN? Reasons uf State ! Why, these jiapers have been moved for in this present session, and the Government granted the motion without any objection. There i t . 4 ; '* I. Ij li ON' THE EXECUTION OF I.oris KIEL 285 (ouldnot, therefore, beany reason of State. Truf. they have not been brou>|;lit down yet, but the reason of ^Stato which was invoked at the trial is not bioujrlit forward in this House, and wliy? IJeoause sucli a reason -wouhl never liave stood discussion in tins public Parliament. Yet with tiiis inii)erfect trial tlie jury reconnnended him to the mercy of tiie court. The Minister of Public Works said the other day that it was nuthiiiL!: unusual for juries to brinfr in verdicts Mith recouiniendation to mercy. No. it is not unusual, liut what is very unusual is that tli(! tiovernnienl sliould iiive no heed to this recommendation. That was the unusual tlung done on this occasion. After the trial was over, the conviction'was so deeply seated in the minds of many friends of the CJovernment tlial ample and full justice had not been done, that lliey at once petitioned tlie (Jovernnient to issue acomniis- sion to examine the ]>risoner, to see WHETHER HE WAS SANE Oli INSANE in mind. This petition was made, as I am informed, liy friends of the (iovernment, to the GovernmeiJt, aii'ain and again. The (iovernment did not refuse, buttreated it sim[»ly as the petitions of the half-breeds were treated — put off, put off, until the very week tliat i)receded the execution. And then the commis- sion — was it a commission ? I do not know what kin<i of instructionswere given ; that we do not know. Jhit we do know that upon the Sth November, iss."), just a week before the execution, two medical gentlemen from the east were at Regina and examined the i)ris- oner. Were those gentlemen sent to Keginii with tlie (d>ject of advising the (iovernment whether or not the sentence should l)e con;muted? T say emphati- cally, no. T charge this against the Ciovernment again, that when they sent this so-called ccniimision to Regina to examine the state of mind of Louis Riel, it was not with a view (tf determining the (juestion whether the sentence should lie carried out or com- Urn r im ■ !)•,.: 'fl^l'' tl 28G SPEECH |.' muted, but it was to tiirow dust in the eves of the ])ul)lic and enaljle the Government to say afterwards, we luive consulted specialists and they have reported in favor oi" sanity. ]5ut, Mr. Speaker, we have it on record that when this commission was sitting in Rcpina. when on tlie (Hh, the 7th and the 8th of Nov- emlier, Dr. Lavell and Dr. Valade were examining Riel to see whetlier ho was insane or not, at that time the Cinvernment, had determined to hang Kiel; and this fact stands to the shame of the (iovernment, perhaps more tlian anything else, because at that time they ■^vere simi)ly playing a comedy. They were not acting vi'Ji a \'io\v to justice; they were simply attem]>ting to blin Ifold the people - to deceive the people. Why, Sir, the Order in council containing the decision of the < '.over; nient was passed on the 12th of Noveni})er, bui long before that time the (fovernment had come to their CLnol..: ion. The honorable Minister of Militia about tha: time made a trip to the North-West. lie arrived at \Mnnipeg on the 7th or 8th of November, so that he must have left Ottawa about the .'Jrd or -Ith or the 2nd of November ; and before the honoraljle gentleman had left Ottawa for \\'innipeg, the sentence, if not recorded, had lieen decided upon by the advi- sors of His Excellency. We have the KV D^Xt'E OF THE I'lIEMIEU niMSEI.K hi' I. as to that. Here is a letter whicli was sent by the honorable Prime Minister to the honoralde Minister of Militia : Ottawa, liotli November, 1885. My Deau Cauo.v, You .siiy you are charL'erl with having left < >tta\v;i before the decision of the (iovenior in Counoil was arrived at witli respect to Louis Kiel, and as if for the purpose of avoidin.L' being jiarty to the decision. 'I'liis is not the case, the Council had come to the conclu- sion that it was necessary, in tlie interest of justice, that the ox THE EXECTTION OF LoriS KIEI i2S7 sentence should be allowed to he oarried into cd'eet, in your j)i'esence as a Member of the Council, belbre jou lei't lor Winnipeg. Sir, we must give the IVIinister of Militin hir- due; lie has had ii full share in the hanging of Louis Kiel ; let him have what really appertains to him. liefdre lie left Ottawa, the .sentence had been decided hotween him and his colleagues. Let hini have his full .share of the merit, if merit there he, or the shame ; let him have also his full share of the comedy which was afterwards played before the public. For. I ask it of any man in his senses — I ask it of any man on the Opposition lienches ; I ask it of any man in the coun- trv — was there ever a more SlIAMEFri, THING ENACTED RV A (iOVEUXMEXT, than after they had decided to execute, for the pur- pose of blinding the public, to send a commission to enquire whether the convict was insane or not ? What was the object of enquiring whether he was insane or not, if the (iovernment. at that time, had made up their minds and decided Jhat he should be hanged? The object was to do what has since lieen done — to say to the people of Canada : We have consulted me- dical officers, and they have reported, and upon their report we have acted. Sir, it was not ujion this report that they acted ; this rep(^'t was a false note, and they did not act upon it, because when they got it their decision had jjeen arrived at; and upon tliis I arraign the Government of the country, not only as luMng guilty of a cruel act, Initas being guilty of an att('mj)t to deceive the peoj)le of this country. Sir. if the (iov- ernment had been desirous of learning wbether Kiel was insane or sane, there was no need of sending a commission to examine him. Tt would have lieen sudi- cient to look at his histor\' ; it would iiave lieen sulli- cient even to look at his re<'nrd in the rebellion. We have it now as a fact of history that wliilo Ricl was Vi 'IS' ( h& i*ii I 'I- 4 s k i' ■ ■■ I; 1^ i* I'r Ij r ^ Mf". h yH; 2SS Sl'KECH inducinjf tliiit rebellion, lie cliose iis liis cliiet' adviser and seerotiuy, a inun nutorioUf-ly insane. William Joseph Jackson, who si<:;ne(l his letters and Orders in Council. Will it he pretended by any man that it' U'.el had l)een in his senses, if he hail had a .«ane and dis- ecrninif mind, he would have aecepted an in.sane man as his ehiel' adviser? Why did this not strike honor- able gentlemen oj)p()site ? One ot' the things whieh we in Tjower Canada liave felt a deejily a.s we have ever felt anything, is that we have believed tiiat the mea- sure of justice; which was extended to Louis I'iel WAS NOT THE SA.MH MEAsrUK oK .irsTUE whieh was extended 1o William Josejih .Taekson. Jackson was ])Ut upon his trial, ami I am bound to say this, in duty to tlic Crown ))resecut()rs. that upon that occasion they did their dutv- They ucknow- letlged at once the insanity of the jirisoner and di- rected an aeipiittal. The trial of Jackson took place on tlie 'iCith of July last. Mr. Osier, counsel for the (.'rown, in opening the case, spoke as follows : — 'I'ho prisoner is rliaiired with liiiviiij; participatoil in the rocent rebellion, with having acteil in the capacity of private st'crctary to Louis Kiel, the leader of the reliellion, lie is chargt><l heio now Ibrinally with this crime, bttt it is under- stoocl that the counsel for the i)iisoner, ^Ir. Mc.\rtiiiu, will be able to <;ivft you sat i.«factoiy evidence of the insanity of tho prisoner, and that he is not re.allt responsible, and was not res-, ponsible lor the acts eonniiitted by him. The Crown do not propose to contest that contention on ilie [)art of iirisonei^'s coimsel. The evidmice, in fact, comes iioai the medical men who have exainine<l the prisoner on the jjart ol' the Crown, and eviilence that has c(jino to the knowledge of counsel for the down, during the course of prei)aratiou for other tri.'tls, is conclusive that, at the time he committed the acts, he was not responsible for them. Now. Sir, it is important to look at the evidence which was adduced on that occasion. Dr. Jukes was examined : — I'y Mr. < isler — Q. la he so insane that it would be unfair to say he was not responsible for his acts ? fr'^f^M ON THE EXECUTION OF LOUIS KIEL 289 A. — Thcrpare occasions wlicn I would coiisidor ho would be quite responsible ; to-day he spoke and reasoned with nie in a manner that was veiy clear, but only three days n^'o he was crazed. Ilisuiind seems to be dazod. J do not think that, to brinf; him at a moment's notice, lie woukl be cajiablo of conducting his trial, or of doing justice to himself in any manner. Q To a considerable extent, your opinion is, that he could not control his actions ? A. — I have never seen anything about liitn to give me the impression that his actions were uncontiollahlo. It is rather his mental liallucinations, his iileas. He holds jioculiar ideas on religious matters in connection with this trouble, and in connection with the new religion of which he thinks that I/juis Kiel is the founder, and which he thinks it is his duty to sustain. Q Would this be consistent with his ronniiitting criinc? A. — If he spoke rationally 1 would think so, but he does not. Q Then you would not hold him responsible for acts done in connection with these ideas? A — If he comaiittt'd any acts in the condition he is now, ] would not hold him responsible. The slightest excitement produces a great eilect ujion him. Well, Mr. Speaker, I ask ANY FArn-:.;iNi)Ei) man, if this apfjlies to William Jose])!! .Tackson. would not every line of it apply equally to Louis Kiel ? T.< it nut a fact that these two men wore deluded on tlic same suhjects? Jackson spoke rationally, but hehad hallu- cinations, just as Kiel had ; and yet one of these men is acquitted, is sent to an asylum, and is then allowed to escape, while Louis Kiel is sent to the ^'allows. Jackst)n is free to-day, and Kiel is in his ;,n'ave. I therefore cannot come to any other conclusion than that upon this occasion the same measure of ju:-tice which was extended to one man was not extended to the other. I do not want to raise national prejudices, hut prejudices are not always the out-growth of ignoble passion ; sometimes they are simply the out- 11.) t! I , 290 SPEECH f- fi' fi growtli of a nol)le piission ; national i)rejudices may be the ou1-{i:ro\vth ()f national ])ride, and when the l)eople of Lo\vor-(!ana(la tound that the one prisoner was treated in one way and the other in a ditTerent way, there was occasion, at least, why they should feel as they did ujjon this matter. ]iut we never knew, until the Minister of Tuhlic Works spoke the other day, what was the true reason ofthe execution of Kiel. We have it now ; he has spoken and we know what was the true inwardness of it. The CJovernment had written a pamphlet in order to justify themselves. The utility of that pamphlet is gone; it never had any ; not one ofthe reasons it gave for the execution of Kiel was the true reason. It never had any useful- ness at all, except, perhaps as atlording to the CJovern- ment job printing to SETTLE THE WAVERING CONSCIEXCES ! 7 '■ ^ l-ii '-■' of some of their followers. But now we know the true reason why Kiel was executed, and here it is in the language ofthe Minii-ter of Public Works: AVe liiul tliis liefoi'p us, we had the fact thrit Louis IJiel hnd, fiflttui yenm before this, roiniiiittecl iin act which was coiisitl- ereil at the time one that should have lieen jiuiiislied in tlie most severe way. The prisoner, Louis Riel, at tliat time was not condemned to a seveie punishment ; he wa-. allowed to remain out of the country i'or five yeai's, and he was not bi'ouL'ht helbre a ti'ibunal to be tried, and jiunished orabsolved, ibr the ileath of'Thomas Scott, II Here is the reason — the death of Thomas Scott Since T have named Thomas Scott, let me pause a moment. The Minister of Public Works said the other day that those who sympatliised with Riel could not condemn the Government for his execution, because they excused him for the execution of Scott, and the only defence made in his favor was that the act was done by a 'Ic facto guvernmcnt. This was not the true raiFon. Whether the government of Riel was a 'Ic facto ox TIFK EXECt'TION OF LOllS KIEL 291 guvorniueiit or not. is a (luestion u]ion wliich there may be considerable difference of opinion. The death of Scott hag not been pi-osccuted for other reasons, to which T shall come presently, but since I have spoken of the death of Scott, I must say that I have always held the view that it was one of the most painful tra- j^edies that has ever occurred in the life of any country ; it was one of those acts for which there could be no possible excuse, unless the excuse we now have, that the man's mind was unsound. I cannot conceive THAT ANY ONE OF SOUND MIND could have committed so crual an act. Wiiether the death of Scott was the act of a ^/e/'c(c/o government or not, does not matter. Dc facto governments are sometimes truilty of judicial murders, as we know to- day. Whether the act of Iliel was the act of a ile facto Government or not, if that man had been respon- sible for his acts, as gentlemen on the Treasury ben- ches are responsible for theirs, then the execution of Scott would be a stiiin on the memory of Kiel, just as the execution of the Duke d'Enghien is a stain on the memory of Napoleon, as the execution of Louis XVI is a stain on the records of the French Convention, as the execution of Admiral J^yng is a stain on the English (lovernment of that day, as the execution of Mary Stuart is a stain on the memory of Queen Eliza- beth, and as the execution of Riel will be a permanent stain and shame on the i)resent Government. The death of Scott is the cause of tlic death of Uiel to-day ! Wliy, if the hon. gentleman thinks that the death of Scott was a crime, did he not punish Uiel at the time? Scott was executed in tlie early days of ISTO, the Government reniained in ])ower until the fall of 1S73, yet they never did anything to In-ing that man to justice, whn had committed such a crime as they say now he committed. 187(J-71-72-73, almost four full years, passed away, and yet the (iovernment, knowing such a crime as it lias l^eeu represented here u A 292 SrEKClI t:; :f ^ had 1»een comniittod. nover took any step to have the crime i)unishe(l. What was their reason? The reason was that the (Jovernnicnt had iironiised to condone the ofTence; tlie reason was that tlio tlovernment were not willinfj to let that man come to trial, hut on tho contrary, actually 8U))i)li('d him with money to induce him to leave the country, and, Sir, T ask any nian on the other side of the House, if thi.s ofTence wu8 punishable, why was it not jjunished tlien ? And if it was not punifhahle then, why nhould it be punislied now? The lanjiuajre nf tliehon. L'cntleman is ohvious, it is i)lain, it ia transjiareut, it was spoken hy the Minister of Militia, who showed that this otrence SHOn.l) HAVE niOKN Kri.l.V I'AUDONEI) li at the time. Well, if the oftence was to be fully par- doned at the time, is it fair to brini/ it as a charge against the oftcnder now ? Ts it now fair to l)asc a con- demnation of death against him, upon it? Sir, T say it is one of the greatest mistakes — not a mistake alone, l)ut one of the gravest wrongs against tlie rights of mankind that ever was i)erpetrated by any (ioveru- ment. Yet I must say I was not altogether surprised at the language nf the lion. .Minister of Public Works. "We had heard something of that before. The Secre- tary of State visited his county in the month uf Jan- uary, and he al?o s]'oke of this event and the execu- tinnofLnuis Uiel. The Minister of Public Works would not meet his accusers except uiion the Hour oi Parliament. The Secretary of State did not object to meet the ])eople. but not his accusers. Still, he went to Terrelminie. and here is the manner in which he spoke of the death of Scott : I bavo iiiy symy.atliics for the lialf.broeds, and I liave proved it ; I liavo )]ioved it bel'oie today. In ]<S74, wlieii Ambroise Li'])ine w.as accused of murder, 1 travelled over l',0(J() miles to defcutl liiin. I did not go round passing iny hat for bubsciiption to pay uic for del'endinj: the accuseil. 1 tlid it A;^ ON THE KXKCL'TION OF I.OCIS lUEL 203 inant'ully.witliout any liopc of reward. (Choors.) Tlio insunt'o- tioii nl' jsvil IiikI a coliii' III' all ox(Hist>. Men lii,i;luir tliaii 1 am in |tolitics liiivi' ^.'(iiicso Coras to Hay that tiicri' wasjustilioatioii lor till' rchi'llidii 111' that ilay. It was tli" ass(>ition of tlio ri,u'lits of nationality a;.'ainsl tlw cession of territory \iy Huju'ume powi'i'. I liffi^mli'il mv iliiMit ami ilurin^ tliai ilofiMicr I lia<l proof, anil tlio hiwt [iroof, t()o, that tlio killini; of tlin unfortu- nato Soott was onn of tlin nimt atrocious n\iirili'rs cvor com- niittoil. That atrocious nmrilcr was without tho connivance ami without the ajiproval of hcpino, hut it was tho result of the scllish vengeance of the i!ieu dictator of tho North-West — Louis Kiel. sirii was THE language spoken liy tlie li()iinriilil('<;;ontIoiuan on that uccasion. lie was spoakiiij;; ,sonH'thiii<^ like ten years alter he had gone to the Nnrtli-West to <h'fenil Anihroise Lepinc, tuul alter he liad iicijuired that knowledge which enal)led him to sny that the murder of Scott was one <tf the most atrorinus iuurch>rrf ever coni- mittod. Vet, scarcely a few weeks after his return from \Vinni[)e<,', where lie had defended Lcpine, the honorable gentleman movei' u the Legislature of Quebec, a resolution, in whieli he thus characterises the act which lie now represents as one of the most atrocious murders ever committed: The trouhlos in the settleuiont of the Red Hiver, now the I'rovmco of Manitoba, in ISfi('i-7(), ui. fortunately produced a conflict of such a nature as to develop into a risinj; of consi- deiahle uiaL'nituile. Tlie leaders of that movement then cons- titiiteil themselves into a government, and one act to ho deplored, perpi'trated under the assumed authority of that government, was the execution of one of the subjects of Her Majesty. • » • » While bowing to tho verdict rendered against one of the actors in tlio movement above mentioned, public oi)inion in that remote Province of Manitoba, as well as in other Provinces ol the Dominion, and even in Piiigland, luis boon strongly impressed with tho idea that the deplorable act of violence is so interwoven with the political events of that unhappy period as to roiuler it impossibh; to assimilate it to ordinnrv cases of murder. ♦ • • With the view of satis- ^tr-- ^ I I l! { 1 294 fiPEECH M . fyingsuch sentiment of clemency, and of realizing the ideas of conciliation, peace and tranquility, which ]iresided over the establishment ol' the Confederation, and further with the view of removing all causes of divisions and hostile sentiments from among the various nationalities of the country, and esjiecially with the view of giving ett'eci to the recommendation to mercy uhich thejury coupled with their verdict, your Excellency is humbly prayed to bo pleased to exercise, in favor of Ambroise Lepine, now under sentence, the royal prerogative of mercy, by extending to liim grace and pardon. Now, if in 1874, the lionor.able gentleman, just fresh from Winnipeg, wliere lie liacl juf-t doiendcil Lejuiie, represented this net as one " so interwoven •witli the political events of that unhappy i)eriod as to render it impossihle to assimilate it to ordinary cases of murder, " in order to t)l)tain the life of one man, is it fair and just now to represent the same act as an atrocious murder in oidcr to take the life of another man? Sir, this issue of the death of Hcott |V;'.;i HAS LONG I3KEN A BURIEl) ISSUE, and it shouM not have lieen brought up again for ])0- litical consideration. There was a. time wlicn it was a living issue, too living an issue, ))efore the people of this country. When the administration of my honorable friend the member for ]']ast-York (Mr. ^facken/io) came into power, that had been for year? a living, burning issue before the i»uiilic. Scott had been executed in the early days of ISTt) An amnesty had been promised Ity tiie men who now sit on the Treasury benches. l)Ut they never had the courage to carry it out : they never iiad the courage t<i stand by their word and ileal to the (drenders in that rebellion, what they bad promised to them. They allowed years and years to j^ass, and, in the meantime, pas- sions were getting more and mor(> bitter. Tiiere are prejudices in Ontario, and there are iirejudices in Quebec, and upon such a <|Uestion the people of On- tario took one view and the people of Quebec took k-f ^i ON THE EXECUTION OF LOUIS RIEI. 295 the other view. Tlie people of Ontiirio demiiiideJ that the law should take its course; the people of Quehec demanded that the promises uf the Govern- ment should he carried out ; and between the two })ruvince3 tlie p:overnment had not the courage to do anything, and they allow(-d this bitterness of feeling to grow until it became a ])ublic danger, which they had not the coirage to face. Ihit when the govern- ment of my honorable friend the member fur East • York came into power, they grappled with the diffi- culty and settled it in a way wliich must ever l)e a credit to them. They asked their followers from Ontario and from Quebec each to give up a certain ])urtion of their pretentions for tlie common weal. each to sacrifice upon the altar of their country something of their i)reventions and to unite upon a common course; and upon that they united and the result has been what was stated l)y the honoralde member for Rouville (Mr. Gigault)", THAT AT LAST PEACE PREVAILED which had l)cen unknown for many long years. This issue of the death of Thomas Scolt lias l)een long dead and now it is raised by whom .-' It is raised by mem- bers opposite — the last men who should ever speak of it. j^ir. we are a new nation, we are attempting to unite the different conlUcting'olements which we liave into a nation. Shall we ever succeed if the Bond of Union is to Itc revenge, if we are to rake up the old sores and launcli tb"m at the heads of one another ? I am sorry that tlie (iovernuient upon this occasion did not take a leaf from the book of our friends to the south of us. Alter the civil war was over, there were men who,w]ion tiicy then fiilly learnt of the outrages at the Andersonville prison and other places, demanded that, if an amnesty was given to political otrendcrs,at least tliose who were guilty r,f those outrages should be brought to justice ; Init not a dmp of blood was shed, not a trial was luid, and it i^ manifest to-day f ■ 296 S-PEECH that the nation is the greater for it. I am sorry also that the Government did not take another leaf from the book of the American nation. I believe TflEUE WAS A REASON — a reason adequate to my mind, at least — why they should have granted, if not an anmesty — I do not say that -at all events a commutation of sentence. On the 1.3tli May, the day after the battle of Batoche, General Micldleton, the commander of forces, wrote as follows to Louis Kiel : Mii. Uii:r., — I am roady to receive you ami your council, ami to protecit you until your cause has been tlecidecl upon by the Canadian fiovernment. Fi;i:d. Midijletov. Riel surrendered. Did he or did he not surrender in virtue of that letter, of that invitation of General Middleton? On that point tlu>re can lie no better evidence tlian that of tiencral Middleton himself: May, l;')ta I sent out parties of mounted men, under Major ISoultou, to scour tiie woods. In the atteriioon two scouts — Armstrong and I lourie — who had been sent oat with Boulton, and liad mnveil away by themselves, came U])Ou Uiel, who.yave liiniselfui), produc'iug my letter toliim,in wldch I summoned him to surrender and jjromised to piotect him until his case was considered by the Canadian Government. Sir, is there not evidence here that Riel then sur- rendered i.>y virtue of the invitation given l)y General Middleton? If such is tlie case, then T submit it to any man's sense of justice and honor if the Canadian (tovernmcnt were justified afterwards in executing a man. tlieir prisoner upon their own invitation? It may be that legally speaking Kiel could not bring tiiis as a bar in his trial to any indictment against liitn, but it seems to me that it is rei)Ugnant to any one's sense of honor and justice that a man whom ycnihave \ m ^ii fi «-.v. ox THE EXECUTION OF LOUIS RIEL 207 invited to l>econio your prisoner in order to avoid the death ofti soldier upon the battlefield, should after- wards be hanged to a gibbet. THE LETTER OK GeXEUAL ^FiDDLETOX was un(loul)tedly dictated by tl.'e most humane senti- ments and not only that, but it is evident also that the course was politic. We sec l)y the report of the (ieneral that, afler the cai)ture of i>atoche, one of his objects was the capture of Riol. As long as Kiel was in the field the reliellion was not ended, and tliere was a possibility that he niiglit organise guerilla bands^ an.' more lives and treasure would have to be spent b(,fore the reijellion was supi)re.=scd. The General f iates in his report : May. 14th We marched lor Lc] line's rioisiii!.'. Having halted for dinner, I received inloimation that Kiel was some- where in the vicinity, .so determined to make for (iuiudapui, or Sliort's Crossing, wliich was some miles nearer,and camp foi- the nijjlit. You see the General is obliged to alter his course, because Kiel is in a certain direction which he had not anticipated. Then when Kiel surrendered, the least the Government could do. was not to treat him as they would have done if he had been taUen on tlie tield of battle. We have in this matter the precedent of General Lee and Cieneral (irant. On the "ind April, ISC)."), Richmond, which had so long witlistood the Union forces, surremlered, and Ciener; '. Lee com- menced his retreat with the object of joii •, , his forces with those of General .Tohnston. He was followed closely liy the victorious army, auil, on the 7th of April, (ieneral (irant sent him a letter, nut inviting, but sim))ly suggesting to him to surrender. General Lee refused, and continued to fight ; but, two days afterwards, finding that his situation was hopeless, he souglit a conference with (ieneral Grimt. and ac- ■ n f ^- ■" M'. '.I / 298 SPEECH cepted th'i invitation to gurrender. General Grant dictated lu3 terms, and here they are : Appomattox Court IIol'si:, Virginia, 9th April, ISO.",. Gi;m:ual In accorilance witli tlie substance of my letter to you of tlio Stli instant, [ jji'oposc to receive tlio surreniler of tiie army olXorthern Virginia on the following terms, to wit : Kolls of all the ollicers an<l men to be maile in duplicate, ono copy to he given liy an orticer designated by me, tlie oth(M' to be ristained by such ollieer or officers as you may designate. The otHceis to give their individual i)aroles not to take up arms against the (iovornment of the United States until [>ro- peiiy exchanged, and eacli company or regimentid commander to sign a like pai'ole foi' the men of his command. The arms, artillery and jaiblic ))rnperty to be packed and stacked, and turned ovov to the ollii'i'i's a|>pointed Ity me to reci'ive them. This will net embrace the sid(> arms of the officers, nor tlieir private horses or baggage. This done, each officer and man will be allowed to return to his home, not to be disturbed by the Unite<l States authority so lo)ig as they oijserve tln'ir iiaroles ami the laws in force where they m.iv reside. General K. C. Lee. U. S. Grant. •v % .' There you see thut tlie surrendered army were paroled. Tliey were not con lined, but allow(3d to go at liberty .so long a.s as they ilid not take up arms again and violate thr> law.-ortbo United States: Imt some autho- rities in the I'liiled States held that tliis did not pre- vent the (iovernnient iVoni ))rosecuting the leaders lor treason ; for g'uiUy of treason they certainly were. The new President of the rnitcd States, Andrew Jolmson. tool; steps to bring (ieneral Lee. and several of the most prominent ollicers to trial. Tiiis was stead- ily opposed by General Grant. The magnanimity of (ieneral (irant's character then came out. and lie threatened to resign liis jiosition in the army if Gene- ral Lee and the other prisoners of war were tried for treas<in. A few montiis afterwards a committee of ON THE EXECUTION OF LOUIS RIEL '299 Congress sat upon the question. General Grant was brought before the committee and gave this evidence : I fre(|uently had to intercede for (leneral Leo and otlier paroled ofKcers, on the groinid that then- parch:', so long as they observed the laws of the Uniteil States, protect them from arrest and trial. The President, at that time occujjied exactly the reverse grounds, viz. : that they should he tried and i)un- jshed. He wanted to know when the time would come when they would be punished. 1 told him not so long as they obeyed the law and complied with tlie stipulation. Eldritlgo — You looked on that in the nature ol' a parole, and held that they could only be tried when they violated that parole. (rrant Yes, that is the view I took of the question. Eldridge: — Did you consider that that applied to. J etferson Davis ? (irant: — No, Sir, ho did not take any parolo. It applied to no pei'sou who was captured — only to those who were [)aroled. Eldrid^ic: — Did the President insist that (jenoral Lee should bo tried for tieason ? Grant: — He contondod for it I insisted that (ioneral Lee would not have surrendered his army, or given up thoi arms, if he had suppose 1 that after surrender, he was goin be tried ibr treason and hanged. Now, is it not manifest, as was stated l)y the liolioraltle nipin])cr for West IFuron tlie other ni^ht, that if Riel liad supposed that in surreiidorinu- he wouhl meet witli tlie same fate as if he was taken pri- soner, ho wouM never liavo surrendered, but would havo(U)neas Gabriel Dutuont and several others did? Kei'urring to the American case, who can dould that of those two men, Andrew .Tojuison and General Grant, the true statesman, the true i)atriot. was the one who iulvocated clemency? You see the result to-day. Scarcely t\k"enty years liavo passed away since that reliellion, the most terrible that ever shook a civilised nation, v.'as ]nit down, and bccan-^e of the mercitul course adopted by the victors, the two sections of that ( ountry are now more closely united than ever before, mcn-e closely even than they were when light- V r V 3 ■'■i>'"isi > «;'r:.f '^ * 300 SPEECH I ' h ■■.'•: ■ ■ ■- ■--' ; I: I^:;;^J , : ''iv tlt^;^ ■■ ing fur their independeuce. meiit The Canadian Goveru- SIIOI'LD HAVE FOI.I.OWED THIS EXAMPLE, and I repeat again that \vc cannot make a nation of this new country by sliedding l)lood, Ijut only ))y extendi nii; mercy and charity for all political offences. Tlie Ciovernnient say they were desirous of giving a lesson. In the last paragraph of their written defence, they say : hi deciilini.' \'ov the apiilioition tor the cn:n:nutiition of seiiti-nci^ passed upon tlio prisoiior tlio (rovei'iiiinMit were olili.L'oil to kee[( in view tlio need of exemplary au'l deterrent puni-iluniMit comuiitte I in a oouiitry situated in rexird to settlement and iiopulation as are tlie XorthWest Torritorie.- ; the isolation and deleueeless position of the settlers already there: the horrors to which tney have hoen exposed in tlus event of an Indian outi)reak ; the effect upon intendinu settlers of any weakness in the aihninistration of law, ami the cousenuences which nuist follow such a course in a country if it came to be ludieViMl that such crimes as Kiel's could Ije eomuiitteii without incurrinj; the extreme penalty of the law, by any one who was either >uhJeot to delusions, or eouM lead peo))ie to believe he was so subject. Indeed the Government have convinced all the people here mentioned, the half-l)reeds, the Indians, the white settlers, tiiat their arm is long and strong, and that they are ))owerful to ])unish. Would to heas'en that they had taken as much pa'ns to con- vince them all, the half-ljreeds, Indians and white settlers, of their desire and their willingness to do them justice, to treat them fairly. Had they taken as much pains to do right, as they have taken to punish wrong, they never Avould have had any occasion to convince those people, that the law cannot be violated with impunity, because the law would never have l)eeii violated at all. But to-day, not to speak of those who have lost their lives. r/ m'. ON THE EXECUTION OF I.OVTS KIEL 301 to ULR rni.SONS ARE FULL OF MEN who, desi)airing ever to get justice by i)eace, suught to obtaiu it liy war, who. despairing of ever being treated like freemen, took tlieir lives in their hands, rather than l)e treated as slaves. Tliey have sufTered a great deal, they are sufTering still ; yet, their sacri- fices will not be without reward. Their leader is in the grave ; they are in durance, but from thoir i)ri- sons they can sec that THAT JUr^TICE, THAT LinEUTY whicli they sought in vain, and for which they fought not in vain, has at last dawned upon their country. Their fate well illustrates the truth of Ityion's invoca- tion to liberty, in the introduction to tlie Prisoner of Chi. Ion :— Eternal Sj)ii'it of the cluiinloss niiml ! Bi'ighte.st in ilungeons, Liberty tliou art ! Vov thiM'o thy hai)itatioii is the heart — Tlie lieai't whicli love of thee alone can himl : And when thy sons to fetters are consigneil — To fetters ami the damp vault's daylcss gloom, Their country con(juers with their martyrdom. Yes, tlieir country has conquered witli their mar- tyrdom. They are in durance to-day ; but tlio riidits for wliich they were fighting have bc'cn acknowledged. We have not the report of the commission yet. but we know thnt more tlian two tliousand claims so long denied have been at last granted. And more — still more. We have it in the Speech from the Throne lliai at last representation is to be granted to those Terri- tories. This side of the House long sought, but soiiglit in vain, to oljtain that measure of justice. It could not come then. Init it came after tiio w;ir; it came as tlie last conquest of tliat insurrection. .\nd again I say that their country has conquered witli their inartti- (buii. and if wo look at that one fact alone tliere was cause sulVirient. independent of all others, to extend mercy to the one who is dead and to those who live. 1 1\. I . .!■ I ' ,v ' I I > * ^ 1* I Ilk/ i%, ' r ^• ¥ ■J r. ^5 i'H '1. I', i ' . MR. imm AT TORONTO THE GRIEVANCES OF THE HALF-LllEEDS AND KIEL'S EX1-:CUTI0N A COMPLETE STATEMENT OF THE QUESTION THE BAMK LANGUAGE AT QVEBEC AND AT TOKONTO A SPLENDID TUirMI'H OVER PREJUDICE AND SI.ANDKU Mr. Lanriei's .advci'saiios liaving Ijoastdl that he would not (laro to repeat helbfe th(> people of <.»iita>io the lanj:ua,i.'e he hatl held in liis own province relative lo the llalf-lireed I'ebel- lion, he seized the lir.-t oitportmiity to take up tlu; eliallenge. Accepting with hcmoralilo Mr. lilake the invitation extended to hiiu by the Young Men's Lilieral Club ot Toronto, he thi.'re delivered, on the lOth Iieceniber l^SG. the following ^peci'li. .'ui excellent rojiort oFvvhieh was jiubli-'hed by the (i/rl c next d ly. The two Lilteral leaders spoke to a crowded house in the Hor- ticultural Pavilipn, the gathering lieiiig so large that many could not obtain admission, ''he chair was taken by Mr. W. D. <iregory. President ol the ('lub, with .Nfr. Laurii-r on his right and Mi'.Blake on his left, and among the other gentlemen on the platform were ifessrs A. A. Marsh, 1!. 1!. Hughes, A. 1". Chamberland, I'atnck Hughes.W.A.Doughiss.r.B.Casgraiuir.t'., i ! f ■ S. 304 SPEECH i ■1 ; i 1^ ■:| ■ ;||j| ;'■ • 't ',' w lion. "\V. ^foMiister, .Iosc'|>li Kilf-'our, II. If. Dcwart, first Vico- rrcsiilont ol'tlio young Lihenil Club; .1 . II. (Jilmorc^, TrciLsurci' <if the Club ; ('apt Snelgroovc, oditor of tlio Oilmuri/ li'ur/il ; .lolin Dryiniin, Ailiun H. Grcobiian, .J. F. Edjiur, M. I'., II. B. Manli'V, .N', C. Love, (Jeorj^o W. Ivoojy, (i. \V. Bailirorow, Alo.x. Boyd, 1) Carlyk', U. 15. Ilainiltoii, .jolm Loys, liev. .loliii J. Slioa, irciiiy Swan. 1 1. Laforoe, ami K. A. Dickson. Every class olToronto's iiojiulatiou was i'(']ii-csi'iit('il in tlio audicMU'e, whit'li also incluiU'il lar;:(' nuinbi-rs ol Torii's, but, as rcinaiktMl by the (//(//(c, the oni tors' ai'fZLnnents wi>ro so coiivinfini; ami tlicir logi(! so iii'Osistil;lt>, that tho only maiks of Wisiipproval well" a ii'W .si^attciiing lu'otcsts t'loai indivi'luals, which wci'o iininoiliately silenced by tho cheers ol the crowd. Mr. Laurier spoke ai I'ollows : y\\l. ClIAIIiMAN, LaIiIKS AM) (iENTLEMEN. It is ever Avith a sense of (lifTidenee that I rise to address an Englisli-speakint; audience. I ever feel and realize the j^reat disadvantage of having to nuike u.s(! of a language which is not my own native language. This impresses me now — now especially as I am glad of tlie honor of addressing an audience of the city of Toronto — of a great city wliicli, Ijy common consent, is awarded tho i)alm for inlellectual culture in Canada. Yet these considerations, ladies and gentle- men. I lay aside, however only for tlie great <iuestion. tlie momentous issue, on which ])erha])Sthe i'ew words I have to speak miglit suggest something to you. Tlie fact that a Canadian now comes hefore you whose mother tongue Is not tlie iCnglisli tongue, hut one whose pride springs sharply up in love for our nation, is an ever important fact especially when there are in Canada fidly. at tiiis moment, one million and a half of Her Majesty's subjects who in their language and other characteristics malerially dilTor from the rest of the poi)ulation. Up to a recent date this fact had never Ijeen given with other reference than a reference of courteous fellowship, and a mutual feel- ing pervaded in certain (juarters where the language was of a very dilTerent description. Fur several AT TORONTO IX 1SS6 306 months past the prc-ss Dftliis province, the Tory jiresa of tliis province, and especially oftliis city, has lieeii assiduously sending the impression abroad, and time and attain niakinj^ the assertion, that tliere is in the whole French race of Canada an ever fermentin^j ele- meni of rebellion ; that the whole French race are not loyal to the constituti(Mi of this country: that they will not submit to the duties of citizenshij) except in BO far as they tally with their interests and prejudices; and if I am allowed, and T think \ will lie on this occasion. T will refer to my own individual standing when T am represented day after day AS A TRAITOR AND A REHKL. T am here this evening' ; my chief object in com- ing here to this city of Toronto was to meet those accusations, and meet them in the face of the jjeoplc to whom they are daily addressed. And T am thankful to you, .Mr. Chairman; and T thank also the Young J^ih- erals of Toronto f(jr giving me tlie opportunity, which I now shall avail myself of. of meeting these charges and repelling them, as I hope, and I am sure I will rci)cl them to your satisfaction. There are several topics of great interest in which we are all interested, and on which I would like to address you. I am a French Canadian but above all, I am a C'anadian. and there are common interests upon which we have the same feeling, but T hope that upon this occasion I shall be))ermitted chietly to devote myself to the task of repelling these charges. Tt is alwa^'S easy, gentlemen, to make charges. It is always an easy thing to raise prejudices, but I would challenge any man to bring forward anything, either word or fact, which would tend to show that since the year 1841 the French Canadians have not been the most loyal sulgects that Kngland ever liad. ]5ut before T proceed one single step further, let mo ask who are the traducers? ^^'ho are they who now ])ro''ess to be shocked and alarmed at thisalleuod dis- •'II m, h ' i: 'k ■ nor, SPEKCII loviilty nf tlm Fi'oiich Ciiuiwlinns ? Who iirc tlicy? Why. tlioy iirc the men. the very im'ii.whu.m' j)iirty for thirty long yeiirs. with sciircoly un oxccption. hiM hecn Uejit in jjowcr hy tli(f votes ot'thi' very nion w hmn tliey now hold up to the exeeriition of their I'l'Uow fluhjects. It is u niJitter of history that Hince the yrnr iSo', up to a low years a^othe j^-reat innss ol'the French Canadians have hoon almost unanimous in their sup- jiort of llie Conservative party. It is a nnitter of in*- tory that l"or almost the whole of that lony period of time the Consorviilive [laity in m ■r ,1' HAS I'.KKN KKI'T 1 .\ I'oWKIi hy the votes ol'the Kreiuh Canadians. It is ii imitter of hii-tnry that for the greater part of this period, the Conservative party w;is led in flower Canaihi. without any ohjoction I'rom Ontario Tories .-d far as I know. by a man whose meninry I respect. Sir (loorge K. Cartier, who at one time was ii rehel iu;tu;illy in arms atxaiiist the ('rown of Kn^dand. ft is a matter of liiR- tory th;it durini;' thiil time the lloinMn ( 'atholie Church gave ostensilih; and most ellicient suppoil to the Con- pervMtive party, iind it is also a mntter of history that duMni:' idl that time, so loni,' as the French Canadians continued solid to keep the Tory }iarty in jtower. the Ontario Tories never found any i'ault with the I'reneh Canadians; they never saw any danger in the power of the Church. They enjoyed power and all the henctit of power. thi'V enjoyed it for all it was worth and nioie than it was worth, and tlie tcuiler, delicate, sensitive Toi'y conscience never exposed to the outside \v(U'l(l any trace of the alarms which, no douht, judg- ing from the tone of their press, they alway.s felt. Their press was very different in tone from what it is to-day. It was then every day redolent witl mo.st ful.somc i)raise of the Church and of (1*0 F Canadian people. They wrote column ■ • to i)rove that the French Canadians wi ei;, ' people. They issued certain circular.- ))e ,sh .i ! '*■: ' AT TiiltOMO IN ISSn uiily td crrtiiiii elfctnr,.! to pi'DVc tliiit tlieTury |i;iny \v(!i'<' tilt' true .SDiM (if tlio Cliurcli . Imt an soon a- t he Frciicli Caiiailiaii;^ uiHlortook to ilividc, luid so |>ut tin- T irv iivcrmiioiit 111 (Inuuer, TIIKV I II AM.I'.li rilKIl; TACTICS and liilttaly attacUcd luitli the race and tlifir Cluu'cli, liicli licl'oic tlicy had liccii .-^uiiportiii;^ mid llnttcriii^ ^\'llat was tlic caiir W it was tlie iiiotiV( It wad liL'rrf( tty transparent. Tlic niotivo in c!Ver the ^aiue, (lie niotivo of tiie attack and the motive of tho adula- tion. Tt is to i<'tain iiowcr, and tlio tactica are tlie saiiif. The sudden appeal to prcjiulice is of the .same kind ami the same character. Vc'teinhiy in orth'r to retain power the.^e men pandered to tiie prejudices of my fellow-countrymen in Canada. To-day when tlioy see tliat, notwith-<taiid- in;j; all that, the votes are now escai>in,uf Ihein. they turn in another direction and [lan der t< dice they suppo.'^e may exist in tlii.s provii wiiat preju- icc Well, rentleinen, let me u;o a step further and say that if to-morrow my countrymen were a^rain to unite in supjiort of the (ioverniiKiit you would liiid them as active in fawnin<,' upon them as ever. Vou would llml them as sly as mice, and with teeth as sharp to pick the eriimlis of ollice, and not a word more would you hear of the power of the Church, ami the s( dislovaltv of the French CanatUan.s. (ientlemen, I ••called III I fr<;e to admit this, and without anv restriction, that previous to the year IS]], that is, to the irrantinj: of resjionsilile udvcrniiKMit to tlie jicoplc ol'this country, everv man of the race to which I helon^r was a rehel. either in iiriiH or in heart. Knt <loe It .111 litH'ause our fathers wen; rehels. that their sons should harlior treason in their hi.'arts? I am sure there must he in this auilieiu^e .an ajipreciation of the sentiments of I ho.--e gallant lli^dilanders wiio l'ou<ilit hy the side of Prince Charlit! at (ulloden. apainst thelJritish llaiz'. which even then floated in almost all the lands of the fl^ ,1 ' !■:.: m my IT It ■) m 308 SPEECH ■• ' ■ , earth. It is to tlie testimony of that hour that I apjieal. Their course, after the rebellion was over, is a living witness of the fact that THE MOST FERVENT LOYALTY can take the place of sullenness, and even rohellion. What was true, gentlemen, oftlio Scotch Iliixhlandors, is true also of my fellow-countrymen, the FrcMich race in this country. Tlio difference is that the Scotch Highlanders fought for a sentiment, and my French fellow-countrymen fought for a principle. l!ut before they rebelled against the Crown of England they had ])roved their loyalty to that country in more manners than one. It is a matter of history that as soon as the great contest between Montcalm and Wolfe had Ijeea decided in favor ofWoll'e, the French Canadians accei)ted unreservedly the state of things and became loyal liritish subjects and twice in succession during the course of a few short years their loyalty was put to the test, and in what were they found wanting? The country was invaded twice l)y the Americans, and twice tliey were repelled, the French Canadians flghlingas noldy to accomplish this as any British sulijects of the time could have done. They repelled all the blandishments of the emissaries of the French Government in order to induce them to cast off Hri- tisii rule and throw in their lot with the American l)coplo. Why did they rebel? History is a witness of all their struggles against the British Crown. The only things they asked for were the rights of British subjects; and" as soon as tho-e rights were granted them — I repeat what I said before — they became what they are to-day. the most loyal subjects that England ever had. Sir. tlio attach- ment to Jbitish institutions is natural to men of your origin. Ii is A MATTEK oK TRADITION you. It must be so, because your very . ature is AT TORONTO IN ISSO 30» penuoiitcd witli tiu' assoointions and memories of the old liiud. Our attiichmenl to the IJritisli Crown Hjtringa t'roni iinotlicr cause. Vour attacliment to tlie British Crown flows in your blood. With us our attachme.'it to tiie Hritisii Crown siiri»iji.g from gratitude, it springs Iroiu the licai t. W e have learned to lovr JJriti sh insti- tuti(.n,s hecauf-e in Jh'iti^h institutions we liave found more freedom tliat we would ever hud, had we remained the sulijeit:^ of France, and how many times in that grand old city whicli I have the honour to represent, looking at the l)aniier of St. (ieort'e waving over lier jtroud citiulel, liow many times iiave I said to myself that that Hag represented the defeat of my cmmtry- men. my ancestors, hut at th(i same t'lne recalled the thought that it was the Hag the most precious to the human race, the Hag of liherty. It may be that the Tories will not appreciate the sentiments which I now speak — (several cries of" Hear, hear ") — and I see that there are T<u'ies in this audience whc may believe me insincere when I speak thus ; init it is not to the cool, ( ak'ulating Tory that T a])|)eal. F appeal to the Liberals. Tlicv will understand that freedom has nia de J'higland (lea r to our hearts anil has made us fiucver 1 )yal to her cause. There is one reproach which is made to us. We are reproached with having kept our individuality as a race. It is said that we are wanting in loyalty l)ecau>e we kept our individuality as a race. I fail to see the justice of the reproach. I iidmit that we retain our language, our religion, and our ciiaracteristics, but I cannot see the justice of the rejiroach, and more, it seems to me that we would not have been worthy of any esteem or of the name of French Canadians if we had not kept sacred the memorie:: of our fore'athers ; so. I rejjeat, I I.OVK KNGLAND. I honor and esteem Fnglish institutions ; I do not regret that we are now subjects of the Queen instead of France ; Imt mav mv right hand wither bv my i ;■■? '3 Iv^ ■ M ' r In r ':'■■ ii^ ii 310 SPEECH fiide.if the memories of my forefatliers ever ceuse to be dear to juy lieart ! It lias been said also that the En- glish privileges and liberties have ])een encroached up on ; that we want to put forward our own insti- tutions and our language. I do not admit that re- l)roach. It cannot l)e said of me that I want to do thip. and I suppose I am one of the greatest sinners. I am .»aid to Ije so, anyway, by the Tory pai)ers In answer to this charge I cannot do better than to eefer to a speocli which I niado in the month of .May 1SS4 at the Club National in Montreal, a society com- ])Osed. as you ])r()baldy know, of students. I spoke of the House of Commons at Ottawa, and of the proce- dure there, and T spoke as folhiws : — •" What T have told you will show tliMt the House of Com- mons, thougli there are about oO French members, is exclusively an Englisji assembly. The French lan- guage is the ofhcial langange as is the English, but it is impossible to f.>llov.' the s|)eakers in the deliates unless you speak the language of the miij(U'ity. The remainder of the extract went to sliow that the French werean artistic peo])lc. and the force of circumstance? in America was such that the luiglisb language was destined to become the most univer.-"nl. You see. gentlemen, this is the extent of ray im- ])utatinn I l\dly admit that the P^nglisli language i-^ i)ound to lie the huiguage of this country. and no mnii in his senses will deny it. For I .-imply confine my- self tosav tint we are the French race and have cer- tain duties. ;nid liavc to fulfil those duties and nothing more. Certainly there is nothing in this to which any Canadian can tal;e exeeptifin. T will Siiy this, that we are Canadians. lU'low the island of Montreal the watei- that conies from tiie uortii from Ottawa unites with the waters that come from the western lakes, hr> lUT INni.Mi THKY no NoT MIX. There they run jiarallel. separate, <listingui?hable. and yet are one stream, llowinu' within the same iianks. 1 LiS I i AT TORONTO IN 18SG 311 the mighty St. Lawrence, unci rollinji; on toward the sea Iteariiig the commerce of a nation upon it3 bosom — a perfect image of our nation. We may not assim- ilate, we may not blend, l)ut for all that we are the component parts of the same country. We may bo French in our origin — and I do not deny my origin — I admit that I i)ride myself on it. We may l)o JOn- glish, or Scott h or whatever it may l)e, l)ut we are Canadians; one in aim and purpose; and not only ("anndians, but we are also members of the same Bri- tish Empire. This fact, that we are all Canadians, one in our objects, ineiul)crs of the Hritish Empire, proud of lioinjr Jh'itish subjc^cts and Canadian, is cviilence that we can keep pride of race without any detriment 1o the nation. As Canadians, we have feelings in com- mon with each other that iiro not shared by our fellow- countrymen on the other side of the water. As Cana- diaivs. we are affected by local and national conside- rations, which bind us togetlier and so we are led to look back to the land of our ancestors and feel, with all that, to be no less good Ciinadians. • THKSE ARE TUK FKKI.INOS of the race to which I belong, and on tliis ([uestion Inui true to my race, I am true to Canaihi. T am true to England, anil last, and for this, T have often l)een rei)roached with lieing a traitor. T ;ini above ;ill true to the cau-e of liberty and jiislice. Sir, T am ofFieiicii origin and linve the ])ri(le of my race ; in politics T am an English Liiieral. The })rinciples wliicb T profess. such as they are, are the outgrowth of study and re- ll(H'lion, and did not come to me fri'iii the land of my ancestors. They came to me from Juigland, frointlu! great mother of nioilern lilierty. 1 liclong to tbe school oftlio«e men who 1111 the jiagesof Engli^b his- tory, who always faced the great to get the right. T belong to the .s'cho(d of ]fami)den, and T'yni, of Rus- sell and Somers, and of iUirke. And of one who did not hesitate, we read, on one occasion to say tn the m r-?: m dm ^ 1 mm i ^■il 312 SPEECH Ministers of the Crown tliat tliey Imd not behaved us they shouhl have towards the Culoniea wliich were then in rebellion and to say that they had ))rovoked that rebellion, just as the 5linisters at another time since have jjrovoked a rebellion. I am not a traitor though Tories may howl, but T say that no Govern- ment flhall ever trample over my living body. A.s lung as 1 have the breath of life in me, as long es})e- cially as 1 have a seat in Parliament, if the rights of men are trampled upon, lie they French. Celtic. or An- glo-Saxons, I would defend their cause with all the strength of my being. F am coi\scious that T could not (h) this alone ; Init this T could and T would do, in the face and in detiancoof all op{)osing clamour, I would call upon the peojile of this country to stand I- 1' |)n t ku ^.. nV THE (lI'l'ltE.SSEJi AGAINST THE Ol'I'KESSOR. lis. , ; I hi' M \i tlii.s juncture someone in thcaudionco in;i mill souieoue cried — '' I'tiL iiiui out. '' ln'giui inteii'Upt- Mr. Laui'ier : — OIi, no no, do not put him out, let him fctay and hear; I am coming to the part that may tickle some of the Tories who may be in this audience, and T must say that as I respect all opinions I cannot hojte the views I have to express will be those of every one in this audience, but let us i.y to have a friendly discussion, if ])ossible; Jh'itish fair play is all I ask. I come lure to defend inyself against certain allegations, and in the name of justice let those who have listened to the attack also listen to the answer. I rejieat. Sir, T am not a traitor. T am not a preacher of rebellion. There has been lately, as you are aware, a rebellion in the North-West, and though the men who rebelled committed a great error; though, as I saitl. on many occasions, they had to be shot in battle, though they had to be concjuered, I repeat before this great iiudier-e that in my opinion the guilt of the rebellion (l(n ,ot rest with the miseralile wretches who took up arms, but rests altogether with the (iov- AT TORONTO IN 1S8G 513 crnniont wlio provoked it. I cannot liope to ho appi'ovod by tvcryliody, but I uddios.s luysell'toevory En^lisliinaii. not only in nanie,1)Ut who luts a I>ritif:!i licai't in his liosoni, is tlicre a man who is prepare<l to condemn relxdlion simply because it is rebellion ? Is it not a fact that the history of Knu'land is full of rebellions? There is not u race on eartli which has done as much for the cause of human liberty as the ]'"nglisli race, and this England, wliich is to-day so ,urcat. has her greatness because no son of Knu'land wori.n KVKii f-ri!MiT th tvkannv, and the poo[ile of Kniiland have a,i;aiu and again lieen driven into rebellion, because thcv coubl not other- wIk' than by rebellion ol)tain tiicir rights. And if any une of those present wcn'c to stand u[) and dis- l)Ute this. I could give him tlie names of rebels wliose names are cherished in his heart as patriots and* the savinurs of liberty in England, ^'ou may say that the wretched, half-savage half-breeds are not tit to be compared to the heroes of iJritish history. Tf you say sCfeodoF. There is no comparison at all Letween the two chisses f>f men. lUit, gcntleincn.lhe s|)irit nf liberty is not the resul s of culture. It may be fiiund in the lowest man. And let a man beever so biw. he has the riglit to justice whenever justice is denied tn him. And remendier this - remember this — these half-savage people who relicllctl in the ^"orth■^\'c^t did not reliel against the authority of Her Majesty tlie Queen. They did nut rebel through any feel- ing (if disloyalty to the IJritish Crown nr dislike of Ihitish institutions. They rebelled without any ap- parent plan or order of proceeding. The reason they rebelled is simple enough, and the reason is this ; that the meanest worm that crawls upon the earth, when trampled upon, will endeavor to recoil and strike back, and T say that the guilt of the rel^ellion does not rest with those men so much as with those who ]irovoked them. T say that the (iovernment is •;'i-a 1 !^ ; V ' 1 .i ■ ■: ), . 314 SPEECH KESI'ON.SIHI,E FOR IT ; I clKirgetliis ajj;iuiist the Government, and T will en- deavor, T think T will not fail, to prove that the half- brt.'odrs were denied for several lon.:^ years rights and justice, ri^dits which were admitted as ssoon as t hey were asked l)y bullets ; I ciiar;i:e aj^'ainst them that they have treated the halt'-ljreeds witii contempt, with undi^Liuised disdain ; I charge aji:ain«-t them that tiiey would not listen to tlujir prayers ; T charge against them that tiiey drov(! them to despair, that tlicy drove them to tlie madness, to the rashness, to tlie crinH' wliich they .il'terwards conimitted. T have no douht there are parties here wiio l)elieve this lan- guage is too strong. 1 repeat the cliarge, gentlemen, and put myself altiigetlior on your judgement, Vou Avill all admit witii me that one of tiie most j)ri'eious gifts which we enjoy under tlie constitution is theright of petition. It has always heen one of the undoubted privilege" of the realm of iOiiglaml that, whenever one of ller !\iaj(>sty's subjects deems himself aggrieved in any particular.lie has th(> riglit to approacli the tlirone to ))etinon tiie sovereign. and to explain Ids grievances whatever they may be. The half-breeds availed tiiem- selves of that right. For seven long years they sent into Ottawa j>etitions. memorials, repnvsiMitations of every kind, setting forth tlieir grievances. For seven long yeais tliev never received anything like an answf'V. iSut now to-day we are toid by the (rovern- ment and by the friends oftim CJovernmeiit thid the half-breeds had really no grievances; that though tiiey petitioned, they petitioned for frivolous objects. ; The (lovornn)ent denied everything. They commence I by denying tliat there were any petitions. Mr. ("haj)- leau. some time ago, wrote a letter saying tiiat the halt'-ln'ecfls had never made any represoitations ; that if tiiere had been any representations they would have heen lislenel to. At the v(n\v moment when Mr. ("hapleau v\as writing that letter, there was evi- dence in the Idue hooks tiiat sm-i-niv different com- M 1' I '^i\ i; AT TOIidNTO I.N 1SS6 31 o jiuiniciitions had, during a period of seven yeara, been sent liy the halt'-breeds to Ottawa. lUit now they cannot stand upon that ground. THEY CANNOT NOW DKNY that petitions were .sent. But now tliey say that repre- sentations were made. l)Ut tliat they were frivolous. Fri- volous ! Perhaps, indeed, to the (lovernnient. who every day were dietributing thousands and thousand,^ of acres of more valuable land to tlieir njinion.« and friends. The grievance of tin; jioor hidf-breinl who was asking for his ])etty patch of land was a, frivolous grievance. lUit to the half-breed that was his all. And, Sir, lot the grievances of these men have been ever so frivolous, they had a right to an answer. And the moment that, petitioning as they did, they received no ans\\or. that moment, even ii' their grievances had been frivolous, they became real. And T say now, what excuse can be given for that conduct ? For seven long years the half-lireeds i)etitioned and never re- ceived an answer. At last they received an answer. At last a promise was made, made to a dcdegation sent in ISS;]; but as T sliall show you her(!after, (hat promise was l)roken : the word pledged Ity the (iov- crmnent was violated. Is it to be wondered .".t that the hearts of thest; men became embittered ; that they lost faith in the (idvernnient ; that they came to the conclusion that for them, at Ottawa, there was no jus- tice and no hope ; and that at last they resorted tn tiie last argument which is always resorted to l)y uhmi wlio have exhausted everv other means of getting jus- tice? But soil speak in lie! ill le \v ialf oi' |ierliai>s say Oh, b hose wlio the half- liri'e(N are carried awnv y their f(>elings ; tlniy do imt represent facts; t! exau'irera H'V te tl 10 lau Its (if the (lovernnient. Tsavthitt in this rather the state of things disclosed by the p titions IS in-en wor-e nan r have vet ni.'ide out. I •harire this ayainst the ( lovernnient. tliat not onlv did tl le y reluse to answer the ])rayers that w ere ■;ent to W :ii arnr ij '■:fi .,f ■ ^'1 'i '. "f '■: ' K '1* : 1^^' i |i 316 SPEECH them by those ijcoplo, hut I clmrge ajxainst tlie (lov- ornincnt tluit they actually rii.\(;EAI,i:i) TIIK TKl'E STATE OV KACTS, the j)etiti()n.s that were made daily to them ; that they actually ei»r.cealeil them from the puhlic at large, and iVoiii tlic reiire.^eiitalive.-i nt" tlie ijoojile jit Ottawa. Tills is a strong charge to make, and I deliherately charge against the Government that they eoneealed information upon th;it puhject I'or several" years. And again, in regard to tliis statement, T iilaco myself ujion your judgment. Up to tiie time of the lireaking out of the rehcllion \v(^ knew c<)m])aratively little of the position of the half-lireeds of the North-West Terri- \Ve knew that there was discontent among the W'g were not aware that there was posi tory. white peopk^ We were more general and marked discontent aniong the half- hreeds. J5ut now and then fidnt echo of their com- plaints reached us. On the 7th of March, 18S;!. Mr. JUakeniadea motion asking for the jjroduction of certain papers. He made amotion for a return of co])ies of all corresiiondence and memorials relating to the claims of the inlial)itiints of I'rince Aliiert and the neighlioring districts in the North- West, in res- pect of the land they ocnui)ied, and other matters atfecting their condition. N>)w, gentlemen, T see that there ai'e friends of the (lovernnient here. I ani glad of it. We cannot all hope to be of the same mind, lint as T have said. I make a charge against the (iov- ernment. It is on the judgment of its friends, that T place myself; and I repeat the charge that I made thnt the (iovernment actually concealed information from tiio House. This motion was made on the 7th of .March, 18S;], calling for the production of ce tain pajiers in connection with the claims of the half-breeds. WHEN WAS THE OlMiKH CAUKIKn ofT V ! I i> The order of the House was made on the 7th March 1883. A few weeks would have been sullicient to AT TORdNTO IN 1886 317 bring those papers down. When was the; order carried out? Tnl8S;i? No; not even in ISS;!. Tii 1SS|? Xo ; not even in 1SS4. Tlie papers were Itrought down on theoth of May, 1SS5, wlien the rebellion had broken out; when insurgents were in tlie field; when blood bad lieen shed; when it was too late for tlie taking ot those remedial measures, which jiublic opinion would have conij)elled, if pul)li(! opinion had been in {losses- sion of the facts. Two long yt.'ars hail ('la])sed. Two sessi(»ns had elai)sed before the order of the House was comj)lied with, ixjforc the papers ordered were ])ro- duced. What had we displayed before us here? I put it to the intelligenco and fairness of e\ ery man not Ijiased by party prejudice. Was it apathetic negligence or wilful concealment of information? Tf it was not apathetic negligence or wilful concealment of information, what was it ? And whether it was the one or the other; whether it Avas neglect or wilful concealment, T say it was criminal. If my language is deemed too strong, let Ministers themselves explain. Let them say what qualiiication is to Ije given to their conduct. That is not all. Those pa])ers produced on the oih of May, ISS"), after the rebellion had broken out, Avere not i)roduced spontaneously liy thc(iovern- ment. They were WHENClIEr) I'UOM THE (HJVERN.MEXT by the persistance of Mr. IJlake. After the rebellion had broken out there was a general cry for information. Every m;in wanted to know who were the half-lirceds and wbat they complained of. Mr. Jilake made him- self the voice of the public upon this oct'asion. Day after day, after the news of the Duck Lake fight had come to us, Mr. JUake stood up asking the iiovern- ment to bring down tliose papers Ibr which heh;id asked two years l)etbre, and all other papers tiiat would tlirow light upon the suliject. Day after day it was refused. It was only ]>y dint of groat porsi've- rance that the Government was actually induced to ;is •I'KKCir brin^' down .soinc ihhki's. not fill. We know now tliat Bonio ol' the nio.-^t irn) porta nf pajxTS liavo Ik ■en suihuch- fctnl and Jiovor l)rouj,dit down to tlic llou.sc. Vouniay ask me, wliut wevv tlic grievances of tlio halt'-lirccds' Wliat were they aHksnjf I'or? Siniply tl lis. Tl lev were; askuii; to he treated in the ^'aini' manner tliat tlie hiill'-hreeds oi' Manitoba had l>een treated, and notliinji; more ami no Ihii n<i less. The half-breeds of •Manitoba Iia<l iii^en "dveii titles lor th amis wlueli The half-lireeds of the North-West The half-breeds of Mani- ame tlun"; tiiey oecu|ii(d demanded t he tulia had been jiiven a special ^rant of land fur what we eiill tlie e.xtinfruishment of tiie Tiidian title ; the hiilf-breods of the North-West (U'lnamkul the same thing. And not only did they demand those things, l>nt the white settlers demanded it for them, the olli- cialsofthe (lovernmeiit demanded it for them, and it was refused. It was for seven long years refused. It was granted, when tlie half-lireeds had maile their demand with liieir guns in their hands. Then for the lii'f-t time, the tiovernnient eomplied with their demand. But with this branch of the subject T leave Mi', bl.ake to deal. This was certainly a great gri(!vance. ^'et, lia t had bi'fn tlie oiilv gri(>vance T wMUild not sv 111- ]iathize witli their cause as deeply as I do. J!ut I say that the treatment which was meted out to them by tlie (ioverir,..,'nt with regard ti> their lands was inhu- man and crual ; <0 INIil MAN AM) ( lil Al, that no people in the world would iiavo sulimitted to it. Vol! have heard the statement made by Ministers of the Crown. Isy memluns of I'arliaimjnt and by the jiress that not one single half-breed had ever been oUS ted Irom his 1; iml Ministers liave made the state- ment ; members of Parliament have rejieated it ; tin press has repeated it until it has become a stock phrase in Torv literature. W T can understand members of Parliament and the pi'css rejieating the AK TolM'NTo IN ISSC, SIO Htiitoiiicnt. TIm'V iU'ci'iil the iisscrtioiis of the Minis- tci'H. I>ul !is to ilio Ministers ni.ikini;' (hat assri'tinn. I !un sure I caniidl understand it. unless that in tryin;/ to convince otiiers tiiey luive convinced tiiein- sciivts. ^'on liavo. ixM'liiips. hf)a,rd of tlie story ol' the l''rcnciinian wiio \vante(l to play a joke on a friend, ft was in Marst i!l(>s. ami he said — " ft' you fjo to tlie harlioryou will lind a winde. "' Tlu' I'rienil di.shelieved iiini at lirst. hut linally went to the harhor tellin.u; |ieo|iie whom lie mel. until (|uit(! a, lar;.'« crowd was ^atliered to see the wliah- in tlic harhour. The joker who iiad started the story saw the crowd and said ; — ■■ Well, ]tprhiips, after all, there is something' in it. f will <j;o and see if there is not'a whale in the hariior." When I read sjieeehes of .Mi'. Thoina=i White, .Mr. Thompson, and Mr. Ko.stor, tellin<f tlie ))eople of this country that not one sin^de half-hreed has heen dis- ])o.s.sessed of his land, I often think of tlnit story. I think that in tryinii' to convince otluM- ])cople they ""\v\- are vorv cunniiiL; iiave convinced then:Helv(!S Tl They say, we challenge the Oppofiition to show that half-1 treei I h leen (iispo.'^-sefl se( I. Ti lev nave eoni dence in the fact that it is their iirivih'«r(> to say what papers shall he hroiiiiht ilown, and what .shall he con- aled. lint T a('cep( the ch:illen^e to prove that a half-hreed has neve M leen disjjossessed ot li is land. e;\ <:•!■{■ a,« thev have made the hlne-hook, there is nou'jh to show that tin,' assertion is tru(>; that not on IV was more thai 1 one ut-nreed (lis])ossc li^ that under the policy which was adopted hv the < iMit liiV- ernment. TIIK W ilolK |olTI,.\TloN was liable to be evicted one hy one. Thi.s is tin- ehar<re that I make. Now you have oftt'ii heard the Minis- tor.^ say that not mic half-hreed was dispossessed. 1,im me at once call your attention to the AdlowiiiLr extract from a letter written hv Father Andre to the Xorth- West ("ouncil. in Juno. Is^l ; — icj! ol yniir miul.ni nco to hv nt)liL'eil to nifd acijuaiiitod whli a grievance of iniiic. vO you liowfver, will «ive l-'W f" }■: ■f- in- ,1' < ' > - '■»; it f' 320 SPKECII yoii nil i'liii ol' tlii' state of tliiii;;s eiillini.' lur a [iroMipt it'iiicily. J li'ilil lit I>H('k l,;iUi' 11 tiiioloCliinil oliiliout li' HI acres, nl' which I liiivc tiPi'ii in iiriici'liil |io,ssi'.ssioi) for ovi'i' .seven yeivi's. Tlio laml was t'eiiceil in, nml iiost me a >.'ooil ^l^r,^\ of inuney, luiil was always resiioetoil a>( tli'> "atfiolic niisnion's )ir(i)>ei'iy at i)uei< [jiike. 1 WHS ono ol'tlio tli'st settlers lit that plai'e, and t'iru:ii.'h iiiy exertions the settleiii 'iit im'iea-;e-| laiiiilly, an'l nol)Mily ever ti'duhleil nie in my lawlul possession of liiat land until lust Mareh, when a niiin i>y the name of .1. Kelly iuuiiied my cliiim, and, iiotwithstandin>; niy i)r()te.station-i, claimed the I'liiil as hi- own, and put the frame oi a lions* upon it, depriv- ing.; ni" in that manner of half my property. And this is not the only ocoureiii'e of the Uiiid at I'liek Lake. Now, ^'eiill(>inon, that iiiny h;ivo boon iin o.'diiiiiry (•1130 of trt.'spiis!*. Hiudi as luiglit hiiiipen in any country, iiiid tlicro would liavc licon notiiinjr nmro to aay ; hut I :<ay tlii.s, and tlii.s is wiuit I can jjtovo, tlial tliis trespass was made upon a state oftliin^fs 0' AIUKI) liY A (iOVKRNMKNT, !ind wiiii'ii (iovernniont never redressed, liavine; often been api)lie(l to. What was tlio origin ot" thoni? In 1X70 wlien tlie territories were annexed to C'anadii, there were several liall'-hreed settlements on the Saskateliewan. There was a l^L'oth halt-breed settle- ment at Prince Al))ort and a French hall-breed settle- ment on the south branch at 8t. Tiaurent. These men had taken their lands, these Scoth and French lialf- breeds, each between three and four acres. Then as is shown in evidence, the i)articular manner in which all these jieople had taken their hinds, not only the French half-breeds, buttho Scotch half-breeds as well, all had taken their land frontinjx on the river, about ten chains and two miles deep. When this (.lovern- ment came into the country, they commenced to survey the wild land. They adopted tlie American system of survey. This was in .sections of a sipiare block forty chains wide and forty chains deep. I haven't the slightest olijection to that kind of survey. It is no doubt a more scientific system to apply, fe AT Tnn(i.\Ti> IN ISSn 821 liut you will nfirco witli me it wuuM linvp liccn nn injustice ti> tlms divide tlicso liiiids w Incli hud lieen nettled u| oil Iiy (lie-<e IkiH' lirced.-i in this uiiiiiner. iiiid there W!is ii reliellinii ill l>i<i',» and iSTn, One »{' the ohiel' cuuHes wiis thiit siirveyoiH ul' the ( idvernnieiit. who were int^tnicted to survey land- aci ordinj,' to tlio .'-ectioiial snivcy. (airii'd their (iperation.-i not only on tii(! prairie, whit li \'.ould have heeii iiiinlijectionaide, hut they carried tlitir operiitions upon the j-ettied laiidf* ol' l!rd and Asfiinihoiiie riverf. Tliere was ii rehellion. and alter tliat rehellion wa>» settled it wan (h'cided tliat tlie lands occupied hy hall-hiecds «liould lie survtycd as th.y \»ric pnHsess'ed mid the titles ispued for them aceordin^ily. Alter .several yearn, art you are iiware. they had tin^ authority of the ( iovern- inent in the Ncrth■^\'est and when .Mr. Laird. lh« Lieuteii!inl-(iove! nor oj' the Territories. aii])ointed hy Mr. Ma(d<en/.ie, reiiche(l (he Territorifs: in iS77, onV» (d'the (irst things whicli h<> did was to call upon the (Joverninent for a survey of (he lands of h.-ill'-hreeds as they were occupied. l!ut hel'ore 1 lel'er to tiic voic(> ot Mr. I,!iiril upon the suliject. let me cite to you.;.;eii- tlomoii, A I'lTnioN. ■irudi was nddre.s.sed to the (iovenunont at Ottawa i th y Cil r 1S77 hv ( I CO me McK ly aiir ihout n one Inmdred and lil'ty Scotch hait'-hrceds of I'linci' .\ll)ert settlement, in that jietition (icorgo .McKay and his fellow iietitioiiers say this : — |iclitinii iltl ic uii(lrr>if.riieil settlers anil residents of Tiincc Allicit scttjciiiciit. ill tin- .N(>rtli-\\'c>l Tcriitniie-i ol tiio lldiiiiiiioii (pj' ('aiiinlii, iiuiiiliiv i(']insonts, etc : Your ju'titimicrs. in cunclii-iuii, iininlilv icjirociit tliat considcriiMe jKirtions of the l.iiiils at present occnjiied on the .'^askati'lu'wan Iviver in this x'ttieineiit won- si'ttlc<l upon l)eli>re the tiaiist'or oi'the North- ^V est 'reriitories to tlie Domi- nion ol t'aiiiid.'i, and in the niaimer cnstomnry to that ]]eriod, 21 .SI'EKlU f>:' viz., in ii iiiinow fVoiitJi'-fc ami a (U')itli ol twoinilo?, 'I"li;it tlm hoiiu's am! otlior in.iiiMvciiioiit.s ol' iiianv dT tlu' mHiIcis twc .-ittiatc upoii Ihcrit'oliihas so tiil^i-n. WIumcIoiv vniir iii'titiniicr.s liiiiiilil\' ]>v<>\ that Your K.xecili'ucy will, wln'ii i!i~lriu'!ioiis air isNiii'il til till' I'liruiiiion surveyors, I'l'serv" tin' -aiiio rights atbl privhciji's to the, al(jresaiil oM settlers, ainl pioiieors of thi'^ fcetilc'iiiciit, as wcro rcrtTveil to tlie old settlers in thi- province o,' M- iiitoha. W'liiit. ^ir. wiis tlic ]tttri»in-t oflliis [letition? Thes'c ^'cdtc-li liaH'-iin'ed.s leiiie.-^ciitcd tint they li;ul t.ikou land ill the iiKiiiiK'r eiistninary tn the hiealily; that is to .'^ay, ill narrow I'nmlti.ucs iiiiwnthe river, tuo luilo* deep. They asked that the general system of survey intrnduced iiy tlu' (lovortinieiit 1)0 not introduced. hut thai a siieeial surv(-y sliniihl he granif^d. the same a^ had heeii uraiited. in Manittdia. In th;it same year, Mr. Lair'l, then tlie ( Icveriior nl' the Territory, writing to the ( iovevnnient upnii the same suhieet. exprc.-..'e.^ the .-aine view. This is iIk- letter ol' ^ir. J.aird. datt'd rjth Feliruary. i>^77. It i.s adilressed tn the .Minister of the Iiiteri(>r. 1 have the honour to ti:ii)>mit iierewjili .'xtract ola letter I'roi:! Mr. .lames Walkir, lnsj;e(tor of tlio North \\>st Mounted IVillCe at n itthMo.d, lfsi-ertil:,L' di--|'Uti-s .-irisiiig OUt o! land elaiuis at Prince .Mtjcrt and .'-^t. I.aiiieiii. I'lu' sulijcet i.- one niatei i;illy altei'iinir tlie ]irns)ioiit \ ol lliese and oilur vettlc- meiils in till- tei ritories. 1 siiotild hoi>e. tln-refore. th.at tlie iahfirs of the special s irvey paity wid he contino""! in the I'nsninii SI nine;-, and that points may l)e li.\i'i| uhitli will enalije tl;< -invey lo he prosucuti'd al(>nLr tin; .'■^askatthrwaii, when- setthnienis (^xisi or may .^oon in- finn'.'d. It appears to mo that, wlic'e theic ate settlements .along ihe rivei', a sys- tem ol sui\ey simil.'ir to tliiit adojitec] rm the h'ed and .issini- hoine iiiveis will have to Im coincOi.d. .-^ittlcis >hoiild !■.• allowed tli(ii' IVontage on the river, tin' lines running haek so as to give tlicni au averat'e rl li',(i aeres eaeh. The Ministe'' of the Interior was UONORMU.K li.W'.li MILLS. JMr. .Mills complied with the petit'on. witli tho AT TOltO.NTO IN j'^^*) very naluviil (leiiiiinds here .sot forth, iind tlie very r(!iisoniil)lf view?* iirniiounded l>y ^Tr. Laird, and llic nit'iiioranduni wdiic!: f hold in my hand, ilatetl I Itli March, JS77, adopted tlie proposal in all cas-o.a. Tlio prnnranune of tlie special survey party jiro- vides for the work Iteiiiu- extended durinsj; the coinin<r reason to intersect the SaHkatchewan in the vicinity of the principal settlenierds on that river. It is pro- po.seil in all ('ases where seitlenient has lieen fornjed idopt thesni'vey.s ulong the rivers in the tenitoriea to (if the farms accordinffly. that is to say, jiivinu' an iverage ( where practicahlc) of ten or twenty chains li-ontajre on the iiver, an( 1 letlini:- the hus run liacd; fur enough to make ICiO acres each, (he lines lietwcen lots, as a rule, to he mad(^ to conform to the sectioii line? in '.lie I'cu'ular survey adjoininu.'. Such, vou see, was lie lie 111, SO I he TIIK I'ol.IcV OF lltl-: MACKEN/U-: OOVKIiXM KNT, In tlie ojieu i)rairi(> where the land was unoccupied they a])plii'd tiie system of sectional survey tnhuy out the land in hits of -in cjiains hui^; and In wide, hut wherever they found the Scotch or French, (iccu| settlements el hall-lirccd ivim iheii lands in narrow frontaces, to diviile their land.s exact Iv as thev were oecupieil, and 1 ; more just? Hut was a change '• could anything lie fairer o' s vou are aware there (iovernment in 1S7S. Ami with lie change of (iovernment. I am sorry to say. came also a change of ]>olicy. Tlic p(dicv, which wa- ;i l-ipted it the time, is a jiolicy wiiich every iicni whi> recog- nizes justice must call tvranuical [< tl ■w ho can pretend that whee these people had take lere a man u uj) their iati d.i in d narrow t'roiitages ol ten chains wide ind two miles d(e)). taking their land.s iielm'e there as (Jovi'rnmcMt in the Xorih-W'cst. taking those iinds according to the cu-^tom of the country : is there a man who can picten to ilnide the land into sipune that til si'Ud surveyor- icks was not an ai t ot tvraimv I ask you. is ihi-s Jh'ilish fair play .' I. is , , ■ •« it '■-■mmt--iki ff'iil Pi.' .• ■' ;!2i SPEECH rot'or you to tlie petition wliicli T lutve just read, ol" (ieorjie Miickiiy andloO liall'-l)ictMl«. T am proud to 6ay. AS A KKFoli.MEU, A.< A I.IIIKKAI,. t; and a jiartisau of Mr. Mackenzie's (Jovernment tliat the )iray(!r of tliese Scotcli lialt' iM'tcd.s wa.s carried out. Their lands were surveyed a'-cordinjjly in tlie f^unMller of l.ST.s. the la.st year ofllie .Mackenzie (lo,- ernincnt. Mr. Mills caused the hinds of the Scotch half-l)ree(ls of I'lince Aihert and tlie l-'rench ludf- lireeds of St. I, anient to he divided as they were occupied, and il they liad followed any other eours<i, every man not biased liy ]iarty spirit wnuhl say they hail committed nn act of injustice and tyranny. Ikit, with thechanjie of ( iovernment, tliere was a ( han^eoj" policy also, and under tiie chaufied policy tlie .-(iinire systeu! of surv(>y was ajjplied everywhere in the terri- tory, -whether the lands were vacant or wiuither tiiey were occu}iieil. Aj^ain I do say. gentlemen, that this was one of the most annoyinu' acts of tyranny that ever c^)uld h>' devised against a free and p(K>r peoiije. It w'oidd have heen cheai) justice, you will admit to me, when these |)eople reiire-ciited to the (iovern- ment: " We took uur lands hefore there wag a (iov- ernment here at at all. our lands have heen improved greatly, grant us the favor not to divide these lands. J kit e\en Till,- (111: AT .irS'lICK WAS KKI-rslili. Let me refer you tn rmotlier letter of i'"atlier .\ndrc. Tt was aiidresseti toSir.lohn Macdonald himself, and was dated Idth .lime, is^:'. : — .'^ik: — I vM'ite you tor ilii' ji'.ii )i()>e of I'allim: xoui' uttcn tion to tlie paiiit'iil, ('mbiiii'as>i!)f: positinnin wliicli tlie l-'rcncli liali'-liiei'il.^ .settled on tile .-outlui'ii li.'iiiks ol' the SasUat- ehew'iiii are jilaced. .Vcroriiing to an oM custom m Mantoha, llie\ took lip tli(>irlots ten rliain.s wide in Iront liy two miles ill ile]ptii. tin^tiiiL' that the ' ioM'innieiit. aitie ' on tli>- lule already e>tiiMi.-hed, would suivev these l;oid^ iii i lol.s ten chains in width by two uiile.-i in ilejitli. Tlitu .-ur .^c mav Lie AT TdUdNTO IN ISSf) •;■■)" iinairiiicil when they >:uv the liiiuls iilon;^ tlie Siiskatclicwiiu imusuiiil oil' into s(iii,iies .il' forty cliaiiis without any lii'eil liiiing ;rivfii to tliL'H' just ilaiuis and prot('.-.t>.\\'liat istlu' result dl' this ahuDini.ii division ? < » ir hall'-bi't'cds were ovi-rwhehucd with difiicnitit's on aciniiiit ol their land, and this prncecdinL; nil! now sow divisioTi and di-oord anioiii; onr |icO|ile aiid will MMidcr tile < i.i\ rrnuient odious in tii'^ir i-yes, ronsidering it as j; .iitv ol' a i;ro .s ini'.isti( 1' ! Mvards thiMn. I'iiis sinvi'V lain i-ntal>l\ mixes tiling's. Some losi" their land, whieh is hcin^ irralil 'd Uy theii iiei,i,'iihor» : others see the Iriiit.s of their in- dustry au(| tlic-.r Iruits div-iio.led. This unhappy -t.ite oltiiings coiimI 1m- easily made to<'easi'liy giving ear t) their just claims. And Ikhv can this he rel'Msed tiiem wlien yon have granted a .-imilar lavor ti> Tiince Alheri / All the lands idong the hranch ol till' >a-kati-heuMn have hi'en surveyecl in this maimer, I'Veryho ly wa- siitislied, and not the iea.-t eumidailil was 111', iril about the survi'y. 1 eaiinoi understand, sir, why your >ui\eyoi.-, should liave«i\vo .iill'i-reiit metho(|s ot'i>ai<-ell ng the Iriihlic doiiiain, oiii' lor i'riiiee two miles in dcjith. whieh we iiL'hl, . cc-ing you have Lfrantnl it to I'riiiee Alliert. the other oT hloekiiig out the land III si|Uare.s 4(1 chains wituont taking the ri\ er or, loeatioii of th' settlers into coiisiderat'on. Tho latter method wi^ [notes: Milc'uinly against, aii<l huinhly luay, sir, that yiu ordd a n^w sur\i'y, all' I thus validati-oiir request ; ahead}' the [icojile oi this colony have addressedyoiia |ietitioii on this sniij-et. Init the answer given under your din'utions is not one oa!<'u!itei| to inspire them with the hope that you would right the wrong ol' whiii.i they complain ; kiiowiii;.' the Aihei't. ten eliaiiis in width hy appiove and which we claim as a hi! icult situation in which our peop are -ol\'(>cl to make another etlorl, w lien 1 ti ph, d, I I I rust will hrmg happy lave re h results, and I dare to hope tlitt; you will aectide to their just lest, and no later than ummer order a new survev of the lands on the south liralieh of the Sa^^katchewan. I'v vour cindly coiiourreiice III this matter vou will do an act of iiistii to our people ;iiid rcnlv'i' tlicin a service for which ti (.'Ver he thankful. lev wil I havi' till' honor to 1) r. \our huniMe servant. l-ArilKi; ANDK'K, .■superior ol'.'^t. Lawrence \.-\V. Iiight lioiioral <;r,'nidin 1'. ( >. "ii; .h A. yivu Minister o! the I iiteiior < Htawa. m ('1 -1'^ 32G SPEECH Tills is one of the petitions wliich woro sont in hy tilt' iiall' lireeds. Again, you will udiiiit in the iiiojt foui'tetiu.s lanii'Uiige, in the most reasonalilc language, setting forth facts, tlio po4tiveness of wiiieli overy- liody must admit. Yet THAT PKAVEl; WAS OENIED. Jt;i ■-! v Mi 5 >; . In:'' Let me read you here the ])etition, whieh was sent ahout the same time by Ciahriel Duniont, whose name has sinee lieeoiiie famous, who has \}0.on a rehel. as we all kiinw ; and ])crha|)s this will show how he liecame a I'ehel. This is the petition addressed to fcjir John Macdonahl on the 4th Sen'emher, ISSJ, Ijy (iahriel Puniont and forty-two nth r hall'-lireeds : \Vi! also i»ray that jnu \v."ilil (iiror-t that the lots bo siii-v,\vo(l along tliu river teii <^ha'iu-i wiiltli by two milos in ileptU, this mode or<livi-:i.)n lioiiig tiic long established usage of tiio country. This wiiulil rcnler it nioro easy I'or us to know the limits oi'our .several lots. We trust, .Sir, that you will grant ;i 1'avorablo hearing to this our iietition, anil that you will make known your decision as soon as possilile. "\Vo await it with great anxiety, and pray (iod to prijtect you and keep you I'oi' the direction ot this great country, which you so wisely govern. ^ir, this was not the language of a traitor, this was NOT THE I.ANi.lAOE Ol' A ItEUKI,, tiaViriel Dumont prayed 'iod that Sir .Tnhn Maedonald might he si)ared lo th(> eouatry. ilad his just ])eti- tioii lieeii coin|»!ied with, the man who at that time was a loyal siihjeet and prayed (iod the First .Minister might he sjiareil to the country would not have btv eonic a ;'el)el. Sir. the thing is so indefensihk' that the Mini-ters have not attemittel to defend their acts upon their merits. I never yet heard a minister or aiiv frie.i'l of the (lovernmenl ,sav that it was iusl and AT TKlMXTi) IN' I'^Si; 327 reasonalile anil fair tliat these people, wlieii they occiipifd their hiinl.-i in tlieir manner. 3ht)ul(l li.ivo them ilivi(h'il iitherwi.se tlian as they were ()eeui)ie(l. J>nt there is anollier an3\ver f^iven. The answer given is tliat the halt'-lireeds, who thus petitioned i'or new surveys, liad settUjd upon their lands after survey. They say " We <hi not o;rant a new survey liecauso they settled u]> >n thi' hinds after they had Ixmmi sur- veyed ; they knew what they werc^ and they slmuld have taken their lands aecnrdiuLd v. " That wnuld i)e lerl'ectlv just il the statement was CO iri'Ct. hut 1 tak' issue u|ion that statement, and I have the pronf that the statement is not correct. Wiiat witnes.s shall I call to y)rove the assertion T nuw make ? The witness, Sir. wh.icii T pro)»ose to hrinu; forward to prov(> tlie assertion wliu:li T lave m iide is Mr. ( leoru^e I) uck. the land a,ij;ent of the (Jovernnient at Prince Alhert. T mii,dit hav(> taken advantage, also, of the testimony of Father Andre whose letter T have just read to you and whii'li ]>osilively shows that the half-lireeds who were [letitioning the (lovernment had taken the land before the survey according to tln^ manner followed in the country, hut liere is the letter of .Mr. Duck. Mr. Duck was the agent of the (Jovernment in the localitv. He kuf-w. lie was amiliar wi th the ficts and all the circumstances. His testimony is of the greater imi><u'tance. What does he say? Does Mr. Duck sav that the land had been taken after the sur- vev ? Mr. Drnk savs that land was taki-:n r.Ki'oKK tiik -i'iivkv : that the land was surveyed in sijuare l)locks while thev were occupied by tlie-e ha!f-br<'eds. And he aovises what? \ new survey. He adviscil a new survcv to be satislact'iry to the-e men. Let ii;i' read his letter ; DnMlvlDN I. \Ml t ll'I'ICi;, Pi-inre .\il.,..rt, X. W. L, 11 Mar.'h. is^'J. ■Sii; A- till' niijority of tli" seUliTs .-m the smith ia'anch of llie liiver Saskatchewan, hi tii' xioinity ol' the parish ot SU m' 1- m i' r|' 328 SPEECH LdlJlcnt, li!i\ (■ t;ik.'ii uji tlnir luii'ls [H'l'vioiis tn tlic siil'vcy, with nuri'ii'.v ridiit.ij.'i^'i, similar to tliosc river (^liiinis in oIIht )):irts ol' this di.-tiict ,111(1 in view iif the (litlleiilty iii^oly to ho <'X|)(!iieiiC()il ill this olHee in a(ljiistin,ir the houndaries of those claims in aiu^irihiiu'o witii tln^ section survey, I have, at tiie rcijuest of several of the settlers so situated, tli(^ honor to iei|iipst iiifoi'inatifin us to the iio^siliility ol' re snrvryin.ii tliesc? seetions mto livei' loi - 111! .1 si.iiilar plan to that ai|o|>te(l in ri'iiu;e-Alhert set tl''Uie!it, none of these claims liaviii;: as yet lioeii entoipil ill this olli^'c. (Si:.'iie.|) (il'.dlJCI': \)[H;K, A>;i'nt, liomiiiion laiuls. To tie' Smvixor i leneiiil. iHlawa, B] This is tlie tc-tinuu.y of Mr. Duck. Tliere i.s a pii'teiiic «(!t t'nrtli liy the (lovi'rniiieiit tiiat the hjiH- lirccds had .sottli'il tijmii the hitids al'tiT lln! .survtty- Tliis is nut crt.'ditcd in thi.s luair.s stiitiMiieiit ; lio nay.-* that llie Lrrcat majority li;id taken thiuf I.hkIh |)r(;vii)Urt to tills siiivey ; that tlie siirvcy.s iiad hceii inadt; IN si'iTi': III' ■riif.ii; .ir.-T imgiit.s. lie advised that a now survey should have la.keii ])hM'(! tli(^ i^iiinc as liad hecn [granted tix^ hall'-liveeds nf I'riiHC'Allifi t under Mr. Mackeii/io's ri'uiuie. Tlial is not all. Then> is still more very imixirtant cvidiMU'o to c'iili I'nrth upon this jioint. I now liriiif^ I'ourtli tlie testiniiiiiy ofno les.s :i hody tliaii theNortii- West ('ou".:il. Hero is a uicmnrial adili essed to the (iovornm 'Ut at <);ta\va hy tin; NurtliWe.st t'ouiicil in the nion h of Octoln.T, is's;}: ^'<nll' Memorialist.- fiii'lleT ](iav that tie- huH' hreeds in t\u'. Tei'iitoiies who have not pai'ticip.ated in the .ili-aliL'emelit to (!.\ting(iisli the hall-l)reed claim in M.iriitoii.i shonM enjoy tin- same lights as aeeorded half-hreeds in that [ii'o\ani'e. Your memorialists also pi'iy for more e.xtendeij sniveys ill the country of tho North .'Saskatohewfin, that the special settlement survey of the South .Saskatchewan, in tlip parii-h ol St .Antoine, made hy Mr. .AMons, Dominion laud surveyci, he ajiproveil, and tliat thi^ laud agent at I'rince-.VIhert be AT TO Hon TO IN ISSG iiisti'iiotcil to ri'Of'ivc entrios fni' siirli lamls ; tliiit tlii' lands nf till' iiMiisli oliiratiilin, St Lmiri'iit, ami St Lnui.-, ami I'p.Miiiii^ on till! Siiiitli Saskatdicvvan, lie sui\i:vi'l into ten cliain lots, lii'V licing occnji I, V scttl(Ms ill tliis iinniii'i'. Now, ill the liicc of tliat tc-ti'iioiiv. is tlicn-u imm tliiit ciiii now iiliiilr li\- tiie pi'tli'ii now set tortli liv till' ( iDVcriiiiiciit. tliiit tiiev rclu-^ till' ri'siirvt'V l.c- (■inino tlif liiill'-liiv cds iinil scttlcij on tlie liiml iifli-r tli(i survey, the whole id" the t'viilciicc not milv of h;iir-hr(u'il3, not oiilv oflhi' iiiissiiniarics. out of their own otlicefH iUiil ihr N'oithWest Couiieil .sh.iws that tiie lands wei'e taken liV the halt'-hreeds hel'ore they \ve>'e sni'veyed and t!iat ihemily pioiiei- justiee wuiihl have heen to icHiirvey the lands, as was deniandcd hy .Mr. I>ii<k and demanded hy tie North-west ronmi,. What was the answer to all th'-<' jp(>lili"is of these ie|ii'esentatives and settlers? The answer eanie once in the month oj' Oitoher. ISS.;. ;tnil it was that no lands would he surv(>yed exrciit upon theordinary sysleni ol'survey. Now. L^entleinen. is it any wonder that these mens heaits were enihittered wln'ii they saw the North-West Coimeil demanded the same jus- tice they demanded, and the otlieors of the tiovern- nient demamled tlie.=ame justice that they demandi'd, that when they found tlnir missionaries, all men of uraee. deniamiinu' fm' them the same justice which tl'py were demanding ami all these pravcrs were re- fused, IS ir ANY Wo.NDKU that the^e men's hearts irrew hitter and rehcUic in lo.iiv idaee in iss.")? It was nearly takinti; \ lace in 1>>S- llere are the circumstancos. In Iss-J, some surveyors were '•■p^r.itiiiir in the vicinity of a settlement called n. Alheit, near Kdmonton. Thev were operating am dividing the lands as usual intus(|Uare hjocks o) torty Tl eiKuns. lliey were ai»proaclie W 1 1 0; se ohject it m as to prevent them fr a ii w s( olii c;i ttlen their oiieriiU'Uis. Tliese surveyors went to themis.-ic rrvm^out in- ^^•'f i'l I' SPEECH iirv of tlio iiliHT. Fiitlier Loduc, anil told thai t';itlu'r to advise tin' pt'oiijc to allow tln'iii to }^o on with their operations, stMtinif that they woiihl coiiio hack at a later day and divide the hiiuls so that t]iei)eoj»leeonhl get their narrow long Idoeks. Fnther i.edite advised tlieni to let the surveyors go on with tlutir operations, af"ter the i)roinis(s just made to tln^u that one of thi-ni would come hack in a short time and divide th'ir lands as they occupied them. Then 1ht> surveyors were not moh'stod. They carried on their opcr' lioi\s. and, after survcyiuL;- out this land in s(juarc lilo(d<s, a surveyor canu' hack and commenced In divide the land into narrow stri]H Hut an order came iVnm Ottawa to have that sur- veyiu' stop his operations and let the system of pur- veying land as it had lieen started go on. This pro- mise made to the settlers was therefore violated. Well you may imagine the anger and indignation of these jieojde when they found THAT rUEV HAH IJKK.N dl EATKl', if I may use that word, at all events, deceived. Still they did not rehel, and they took no violent meas- ures. They just assenddcd togeth(>r as you are assemhicd to-night, and discussed their po='ition and de<'ided to scud a, delegation to Ottawa. They chose delcgale-i consisting of Father Led inland a genllenum named Malonoy. They were ret'cived it Ottawa in Marcii. 1 ^n:1. aI'Iim- cousideraldc dillicnlty they had interviews with the .Mini-^ters. They had st^-era! inter- views and at last they were promised in so many words that their prayer wouhl lie grardeil, and that their la)ids would he sui'veyed a- occ'ijiied. Hut Fa- ther l.educ wanted tn ha V(! the prinnise in writing and net in words. To do this he had to pci'sevc re and 1o fdlhiw and shadow the Ministers, and at la.-t he "h- tained from the .^linister ol the Interior of that day. Sir David Macphorsnn. a written paper t>n which all the pravcr3ofthe half-hrceds. a- -ct t'orth in their AT T<UlONTii IN 1880 ]»Ptition, were accfdrd tn. In tliiit writing: it \v;h stilted tliiit ii special fiurvcy would lie ^I'iintcil, and "that laiid-^. occu|)i('il or ipoarfc.s.'iid l)ot'or(' the annexation ol' the Nortli-Wft^t Territorio.s to the Dominion, will ho reoit^znized liy the (lovorninont." I will not give you any more oi' the doeunient. riiis i«i enough. Tlieie ij the promi.se given hy the .Minister of the Interior. With this nrunii.'^o Fall ler Led Ue Wi'n t l)a(l< to the iteliewan. He went haek to llie Forks, whereiJK! two l)raneh(,H uniti vi.-itne. settlement alter ."etth; nient, and inforndng them of the good news thai at ast a .survev wouM ■e hiaiie A'\ me av )roi'oeil any further that we did not funl 1 amongst the papers that were l)rouglit dow he fore I his jiaper 1 hV the (iovernment. Thi s paper lias been Icept m a ])igeoii- hole. The ( iovernment has .suppress(^d the informa- tion it eontaiiied from the people. I'.ut we luund it. and Mr, IMake read it in the Tfouse of Commons and (diart^ed thai a memlx'r of the ( Iovernment hail siuned tlie iiaper. am iiiB eharii'e \va s never contrailiet oil never even ohallenged. .\iid now, sir. as I said, Fatluu' Leduc went up and gave the good news to thesettlers an d said to them W e wi W U ive lustife at last. told them tliat a re-survev would lie made. And what was the consequenee \\'liat followed ? The solemn ]iromiso made over the signatiire ol the Interior .Minister of Tl le w WAS I'.linKK.N A.\!> \' li )I.ATK1 ). ord of Her .Maiestv, as represented hv lier ^linisters. washroken. Is it anv -voui ler. r that these men's hearts were geli ng hitter Hk agam. vni n want any ])r<)of of w it [ now tell vou. let me reai yoii a petition sent on t le (It hv ^\• illiam liremner anil some ::.> n Niivi>iiilier. r -J I other !■ lireeds to Mr. 1 Ui 111' mi'ieiviirii, Li ■ I li <t. L .l.> L: i'.ltli No inii'T^, ii'-l'l''a do 1 paiL'v'vai. ou the s'jiit.i iji'aii^'li t olrl I' jiiifi v., I^Vi -h (if St. I.iuiis ;i<Kat«.'liow;ni, 1)1 I vmy 'Vv.K.' SPKKCH ^' t'l sv\ lortli, :i^ follows, tlit'ir ;.'i'ii'\';iii<!('H in r''liiti()n tn tlii> liiii'1-t oil wliiiili tlii'V iii'i! Inciitc'l; Miiiiy ofiis lire liiTf since tin' vc.ii-i IS7.;'7I, iiiiil '7'i : (illii'is, 111 still ^.Ti'iiti'i' iHiiiiln'i's, siiinc l^><il. I'lai'li ;iiiil 111! Ill' ii.s tivik ii|i luir laiids in lu'i-oriiniKic with tin- llll'tlKUl lolhi.TJV |PlfVMilillg on tll<' l.lll'lt nf lIlB ill- I IJiVl'I'.i'l I llic As'^Miilioiiii' . .til It is to -lav, in river lots, in tnr iiiitmini ut I s«(l, We |ii'iiticiMi'i| till' .\[ini't(M' oT flic Iiiti'iior at ittt.i'AM lor a S|.i'iial sinvcy iiit.i liver lots, as was ;;iante(| t'l tiie I'rince All' 1 1 -ettleiiu'iil ali'l toa iioi'ti'iii of the St. Liwri-ii''" settle- ment, .Mi'l \ve all siv'necl that petition, not e\er|ptini.' Mieliad I ainiv. wiiii h.as siiu iitercl hi* lot at y.Jiir olli.ie as ii see tional lot, anil aLTiin-^t wliose aetioii \\r lierehy stron;.'ly protest. Siih'i' that il.'ite We have xnt more |ietitions, at vaiion* times, lor the sa;ne ohjeei. siippi rtin:; the same with the inlhienei' oj' all persons in a'Uhoritv 'vho look an inter>'st in ns, such i-; Messrs. .1. h'nva'. .M. I''. D. II. .Mac loii.thl, inemher .North W'e.-t ' oinieil, I,. ( 'larUe. II;-. l.onUhip I'.isliop ( irairlm, ami IwUlier Li'iliK!. I''iiii!lv l''.iliier 1, -'liii'. \vho ha I heen -.ni :vs a ih-h'^rate to < tttiiwa li\ the people o( Ivlmontoii an<l I'lince Alherl, showeil ii.s the an^wi r of the i loveininent jnumisini; .a sjiecial survey U'r all localeil laiiils on the .'Saskatchewan, .'^iiiee tlii-n we have waiteil m vain lor the new siiiAcy. ,\s we staleil at the heirimi'iij.', many ol'iis have occiipieil onr lots Iomlt enoiii:h to entitli' lis to I la tents, all' 1 yet tln-re has I" 'en ii'i w.iy.as yet, of L'''ttin!.' them entered at your olli •'■. \Vi' ln'i; ol'yon to repri'- si'iit t'l ihi' iloveriimeiit tlio j^rievanccs heiiMii in part sol toiah, .iii'l niiie tlii'in to put an eii'l thereto as ipiii^klv as pos- sible lor the wellare aii'l pi'ace of lo\al siihj.'cts 'il ll"r .Nlaje-ty till' ti>i|eell of I'Jijilall I. Tliiil w.i.s (luo !ihn 111' tlie luMitiniis whicli. aloni; witli the others, nevei \v;i-» hceilcil. aiid. e-eiillciiu'ii, what wiTc the coiiseinieiictM ol' that sltitf of tliiiie;s? The coiLSciiiicnta; ul' thai stiitc of tliiiie-.s wa^' that llie liair-l)i'(H'(l.i wiM'e, oiu'al'tor iUiotluM'. E\l( I'KI) I'RiiM TIIt-;ill l..\Mis. Here is the inamier, sir. Wv liavc a, hnv, tmd a vorv e-oo'l law. It i-i that any suhject of Her .Majesty, IS yi'iir.^ til'airc can have a hDiiieslcatl of HI) acres in the Nortli-West Territory. As .soon tis tiie title h;is lieeii iiuiile out iintl the plans have been liiid with the agent, AT 'lulio.NTf) IN 1SS() iini V sulijt'ct 111' Hit Miijc^ty can ji'ito tlicMtlicco ..^rt'iit iiiul luiikt) nil I'litiy fnr any (luarUir .-('(11011 which 1h; clioo.-ci* tn tiikc'iip, ;iii(l hy taUiii;: il. In- hccniiiL'.i vested witli the li^rlit tuit. I>'>es the h.ill- hri'Cil jKi.-scss t 1 CHS tlic ri} ttlHS xisness 1 ic sniiic lijiht ? Nil. They iId not ht (if eiitrv. Aim! wliy do they imt t ? Tl 11 is dliviou.-'. The hiiid atreiit lelf !)OSSeSS 11 .' IMC reason l.« hhn kmi.-'. ill' i.iiiii .It: ms phuis of a lowiisldii. one ol'those to\vnshi|is w 1 tlif vetiellion occiiired. In this idaii. llie hmd- are laid down in s(|Uare lihMdsS Id cliains huiir am! hi cliains wi(h'. If a half-hreed comes to tiie a.L'eiit the alter wouU I tell iiim, ■■ 1 will ^ive ymi an enliy for a liomestead. on any pari oi the iiliin ymi clioo.-e. The half-lireed fioints ton piece ol' jjind ten cliains two miles long, and says. '• 1 want to inak( wiile am an enlrv l< ir that \<H'i )f land. '■ The aL'eiit savs. no. I eanno'l do tluil : hut I will \:\\i- you an entry lor this |iiece. folly chains hy forty chains, " •• lint, savs the half-lir("'e(l. " if you ^dve me a piece of land foity cliains wide it will cover part of the land already (leeiipied ; and if you ^rive me Id chains in len<:tli it will cover land oecuiiied hy some one elpe ; therefore 1 cannol make th(! entry This is ohvious. If there IS anv nec{ to you here ssity of Jirovinfr it hy evidence, let me lead letter sent to .Mr. lUick hy J.ou Schmidt dnuHlii). Sii.-k.'itchi'WMii, \. \V. 1', L't'ith ainil, I^Sl. .■<ii:.- Mil ^' to lay licrorc von till' rnllouiii).' Iiicls :— I iim niii- ol llii' >enliM> on tlic .'^oiith S,i>.|sat()iiwHii, wlio, (liiiini; the last inur yeiiis Iimvc (s.-iit j,ftitiniis upnn petit ions to vinir Depaitini'iii to li.ivi' tlie liiml siirvcyiil in ten or twentv cliains iVontiiL'c liy iiiM- or two miles Imij.', the snnie as lias liccii done lor the I'liiiee-Allieit settlement "e. liiitli tlie noitli anil -ontli lii-.ii.eli. s ol till' .^Mskiiti'liev^.in. 1 TeLMet lo s!iy that so llll eiir IM-.iyi'i liiis not yet l.eeii tiiiniled. iioi even an iinswer nl anv kind l)cen uiveii, .'up! 1 leel liouiel til say that sncli a sl.ite ..I thint-'s is nlmnst intoleiiilile. 'I'lie most part oltliese settlei-, anil 1 am aiimn^: the immlier, liave held on and cnltivateil their laii<ls lor over three years, ami oueht to hf> entitleil to a patent lioiii the Ci iwu. Vet, as they have taken np their m 4^■^^?■* IMAGE EVALUATION TEST TARGET (MT-3) 1.0 I.I Iff IB ilM ' IM IIIII2.2 m I 4 2.0 1.8 1.25 1.4 1.6 ^ 6" — ► V] <^ /} A 'cr-l •c'l W i €■'*/'¥ O 7 Photographic Sciences Corporation 23 WEST MAIN STREET WEBSTER, NY. 14580 (716) 872-4503 > ip. .<? >,\ Sin ■ ■ i ! ' ! • 834 ^"PliKCII liiiids clo.H* to f!>cli dlliiT, imd ill tlic lioiio oi'liiiviiiir tliciii siil"li\i<lc'il ill liver lots, they h.ive not Ijoi-ii iilili' to outer tlifin in ilie fifinds ( illicc Youspe, sir, in ii glaiieo tlie ival state ol' tilings, aiul I nuod not occ'iipy your valualiU' timo any longer in enterin.ii into more details. I jnay yon, tlierelore, most earnestly, to have tlio matter leinedieij, for the satisfac- tion of so many loyal snlijects of Her Ma.jesty ami ol' your humhh.' servant. L(»UIS SCHMIDT. Honoialjie the Minister of the Interior. Ottawa. Tlii^ letter, ftir. iirovos tluit the liall'-lireeds could not make entries iVir tlieso luml.s. l>ut if a wmild-lie settler cumos I'roiii tlie out.side, froiu tlie i>r()vince.s of Quelicc or Ontario or from Kuropo with no .such .-cru- })les as entertain the liall'-ltreeils, lie will go to the agent and make an entry for one of tho^e lands know- ing it was oceupifHl. and with the title to the (juarter section in hi.s pocket, he will gi) and say to the half- breed : Here is the evidence that .such a state of things not only existed, hut that fact.s of that nature took place. The petition which T have just read to you was I'orwnrded >) Ottawa on the Uth of Decendier. IS.S.'J, together with the jiiayers of Louis f^clnniilt and John Jlaptiste T)Oucher. Then you have the evidence — the iinswer to the challenge thrown to us by tlu; (iovern- iiiert that no half-hreed has ever been dispossessed. You have in their <.)wn blue book proof that half- breeds have been actually dispossessed. Mr. I.aiirier thi'ii read an extract from a speech delivered by the ilonorahle I'homas Whit? in aiiower to the precetling chai'L'es made hy thf inesent speaker on a previous occasion, ^Ir. White accused ^^r. hauiier of- talking nonsense." '• Talk- ing noiisi>nse I ■■ said r*Ir. Lanrier. This is a very summary way of disposiiiLf of the accusations. But everyone mu>t liiiht witli their weapons, and it seems to me that weai)ons of tin; AT TORONTO IX ISSO 33o Miiiistt'T of the Intnioi' are not wt'll riirl)i>lieil. 'I lu-y want j)oli>li, an<l may iIk-ii .i:<'t a littlo inoic victoiy. In tlic cxtiaot rou'l l)y Mr. I.aurifi-, Mr. AVIiitc was n-jiortcil also as »ayin;i tliat ^Iit l.ainic r hail stati-il in ii di^jnili! ovit lan^ls in tlic Noitli ^Vo .t tilt' indiviilu.'il wlio olitaiiicil iinssi'-sion liy c^ust- intj a lialt'-Vii'Ci'il was iiami'il Salter, .'sallci'. Mr. W'liite said, was an Kn,;.'lisii iiainc and thus Mr. i aiiriiM'. lie cniitended. liad ;.'ivfn tli(> iiii)iri'ssion tiiat a li.Ut'-breed lia,il liwn deiirived nf Ids hnul by an I'^niiiisli settler. .^^l•. Laurier, coiitinuinu', i^iiid : — Sir. T ]ii'ot('-:t against .«iu'li un insinuation. Mr. ^\'llito s^niitrlit to convey the iniprepsion that I had heon appoalinp to race iirejudiccf. T liavc never hcen ^aiilty of anythiri!' .so low an that. I have again and attain in tlie |novin( e ol (iuehec, a.s I do now, attacked the ixilicy ol'tlie ( iov- ernuient rcfrarding tins (inestion, lait Heaven i.s niy \vitnes.«i that never did i call upon any race feeling in the province of <^uel»oc. The language which I have ur-etl in tlie provinces of Queiiec is the langmige which T use here to-night. I Inive n-i two languages, nne t'or the French Canadian.'^ and the other lor tlw English Canadian.^. We >tand liere upon the hroad ground i>f i'riti>'h liherty and Ihiti^h justice. lUit .Mi'. Salter WIS one of the origiiuil settler-^ in the ]Ktrish (d'St Louis de Langevin. and fo was his neighhor. the gen- tleman v\ith whom he was ilisputing. The gi.-t ot' my defence is^ this : — That the dispute was httween two iialf-hreeds over a piece of land, and these cases are not uncommon in the XorthW'est Territory. I will go further, and T will .«ay that disputes ahout the possession of land are not otdy not uncommon in the North-West Territories, liut are conimon where there are men and neighhors. There v.ill he disimtes AS I,oM; as TIIKliK AKK MEN. It is not uncommon to have these dis))Utes ahout land in the ]irovinee of (juelicc. and the province of Ontario, hut here is the ditFerenee - .^I^. Whitf' would argue tliat tins was a case of trespass, simple tres[ias.s, ..'.' fPEECH a violation of the law. a half-breed encroaching upon another half-breed. The difference was this : — Thomas Salter did not commit any tre-pass, did not commit any violation of the law; hut when Thoma.-j Salter came to dispossess his noighljor, he had in his hand the authority of the (Jovernment. He had in his hand an entry which Ik; had made ; he was not breaking the law ; he was acting according to the law made by the (iovcrnment of Canada. This is the ditference, and this is what the ])eoplc of Ontario will understand that this is the difTorence in the case to which I have referred. Tliat could not have been remedied in rourt of justice. If it had been an ordinary trcsjia.ss such as we see everywhere in human society, he could have settled it in a court of justice, l)ut the man says : — " Here is my title, I have it from the Government of Canada. " This is why these men were so embit- tered. They were so liable to be evicted not illegally, but legally with the sanction of the (Jovernment. [s it to l>e Wvindered at. again I say, that the hearts of these men grew embittered when again aur again they api)eale(l to the (Jovernment and got noanswtr? Here thev found themselves evicted one bv one. Is it anv wonder tiuit these men at last LOST AI.I. PATIENCE rwM and faith in the (Jovernment? You are told by the (Jovernment and by their friends that the rebellion was due simj)lj' to the agitation of Kiel. In the sum- mer of lss|, when they had been petitioning for three long years with no avail, they sent for Kiel, the only educated man of the race — they sent for him. He com- menced ti-e agitation. l»ut what did the (iovernment do? Did they do a single act to renn^dy the state u\' things which then prevailed in these territories, when they knew, as they must hav(! known, that Riel was a dangerous character? — T never said thecontrary. The (iovernnifiit knew it. Did they act upon their know- ledge? When tliisman was l)rought into thetcrritory. • r AT TORONTO IN 188G 337 when he commenced the agitation, a peaceable con- stitutional agitation for six long months, what did the Government do to remedy that state of things, to prevent the continuance of that agitation wliich might end, as it did end, in rebellion ? They sent a police to overawe the peoj)le and to their claims. Are we in British Russia ? That is the way that poor Poland. Whenever that unfortunate nation asked for liberty, the Russian (iov- ernment aid as the Canadian (Jovernment in ISS-J ; instead of meeting the just demands of the people, it sent military forces to Warsaw to overawe the people, to put down those who had the tenjerity to rai.«e their voices in favor of their own friends. We are told now that the rebellion was cause<l liy the malice of Riel. Ltt me bring forward force to Fort Carlton prevent them making territory, or ar<i we in Russia ever treated THE TESTIMONY OF THE POLICE FORCE sent to Fort Carlton, Superintendent (lagnon, who wrote on 23rd December, 1S84, to Major Crozicr : — Sir: — I have to lionor to rei)Ort that <hiring the last month the half-hreeils of St Laurent and Bfitoche settle meiits held a public meeting to adopt a petition drawn up by a committee, and that this petition, signed by the settlers of both settlements, has been I'orwanled to Ottawa. This meeting, from all reports, seems to have been very orderly. Several other smaller reunions have taken {lace dui'ing tlie same period, but all had reference to school matters. The hall-breeds are pressing Kiel to settle among them, and have given him, as a token of their gratitude for services rendered, a house well furnishetl, and will further, on 2nd .January next, present him with a purse. These testimonials are for the good-will of the m.ajority, and would go towards denying certain rumors which say that several are lacking confidence in their leader, tliathis way of acting and speaking denotes a very hot head, and that he does not agree with their priests. As far as I can see, the chief grievance of the half-breeds is that they are afraid the Govinnment will not sanction the way they amongst themselves haye agreed to take their homesteads — ton chains Irontage on the river by two miles back. 22 fi '% = r. 11 338 SPEECH \l Here was tlio last wtiniing given to the (joveni- nicnt by one ol'tlieir own oflifoi'H at so lute a chiy as 2.'ji'd ])ecenibor. The lohelliini lnoke out I'our nMjitlis nl'terwardp. lUit tliey took no nteps in the meantime to give i^atii-l'action to tlie^^e peojile, not a ^itej). warned tliougli tliey were, tliongh they .-^aw tlie (hiiiger. and thougli tlie ;igilntion wa-s ever increasing, growing more and more hitter, yet in tlie lace ()rall tliat they never took a step, they never did an act to remove this state of things whieh must liave ended as it did end in reliellitm. N(»w, gentlemen ol' Toronto, men of English l)lood and descent, let me ask tliis of every oiieol'you ; Il'you had hcen yourselves fated to lie horn on the hanks of the ."Saskatchewan before tiier(> ever was a government in the territory, and you had taken youi land according to the manner oi' the country, and if. when the government was founded, they had ■sent surveyors intt)the c(tuntry cutting ytutr land into liiccis; if after you had made remonstrances after remonstrances you iiad been given a })romise that, j ustice would be doncand that ])ron)ipe was l)roken ; if afti'r every other means had been tried and found ol no avail, WUAT Woll.i) \0\- llAVK hoNE? Before T ])roceed any further, let me ([Uote the lan- guage which was ^^[K)ken upon one occasion by the great Karl of Chalhani. the greatest man of his day, the man who first started Knglaml in the ISth century on that career of victory and glory which she has been following ever since. Let me tell you what he once said. The American colonies to the south of us were then in t)pen rel)eliion, lighting tiie Biitish (iovern- nicnt. J.ord Chathani, old and feeble, came to the House of Lord.s < ue day. ujibraided the Ministers for being the cause of that rebt^llion, telling them that they had no right to tax i)eople that were not repre- t^ented in the Ihitish Parliament; that it was an act ul' tyrannv on th^ir part. He said '' H' I were an Uf:ii AT Tdltd.NTn IX 18SG American, iis I am an En;^lishman. wliik' lorcipn troops rrmaiiied in llu' country I never would lay down my amis! Never I Nevei I Never! " If tlie editors oltlie good loyal Tory ucwftjiapers ol" Ontario had l)een liviufj; in that day, what would they liavo said oftliat remark i»t' f^ord ("liatliam's ? For my part, ^fentlemen, I am a loyal ?-ultject, liut I have the ( our- aj.ce ol' my convictions, whether they are right or wrong. T helieve tho-c men were OOADKO lo UKVol.lTION, liut wlien they rebelled tliey committed a crime agairist the peace. I was not horn on the hanks ol' the Saskatchewan, hut on those of the St Lawrence, and when the rebellion to(dc place I had u seat in rarliament, [ owed alleirianee to my soveieijcn. and I knew my rights as a cili/en and my duties as a sub- ject of Tier Majesty. When the volun^^eers were called out. tlie (iovernmenl. tor the first tiiiif in tliis whole matter, did its duly. Th<' reliellion had broken out and had to lie suppresst d. The Government had to be sustained; T sustained it. The Libci'al paityasa party otrered no opposition to the (lovenmient in this nuUter until the back of tlierebellion had been brok- en and all danger was jiassed. Then when the law had been vimiicated. tame the time to arraign the (iovernment and I took an>Mlier ^tep also. I say it was my view and no< that of the wh(de Liberal party. It wa.s a matter upon which everyone took his own side, and my view was that since the rebellion had been provoked clemency should have followed in the steps ot victory This is the course which I took It is not the unanimous course of the Liberal party on this (luestion. Kvery man aets according to his own conscience. Sir, convinced as 1 am that these men werein the right, that they were defending tluMr just rights, that they had been (Iriven to crime by the (iov- ernment, I again expressed my convictions upon that suliject in as strong language as was at my command. 1 ■r I n 340 PPEECII AT TORONTO IN 188G I knew that I had l)een the cause of scandal to the nuineroug tribe of Tory editors who have hvshed their brains most unmercifully in order to bring against me some grand sentence of scorn and indignation. My native land is not only the province of Quebec, wliere I was born, but it extends all over portions of this con- tinent covered by the British flag. My kindred are not only those in whose veins How the blood that flows in my veins. My kindred are all those of whatever race or creed who on this continent live INDKIi THE PROTECTION OK THE BRITISH FLAG, and you will certainlv all agree with me that the pur- poHo of (iod is that all races who are covered l)y the iiritish flag shall be equal before the law, and when we find a Government ill-treating a poor ])eo]de, sim- ply because they are poor :ind ignorant, we resent it. When we find them violating that purpose of CJod, I say that it behooves us to freely fight for it with all the means that the constitution ])]aces in our hands. " eoi mi " FOR VIGOROUS PLEA LY FAVOR OF THE IRISH DIOFKCTIVICNI'^S OF LKCISLATIVE UNION IN KN(iLANI) AM) IN CANADA PROTEST AGArxST COERCION 'fwic^i-' itrovioiisly in 1 >S2 mid Issi;, ln'l tlii> Kousi' nf ( 'oin- mous votc'il iiiilrcssi's t(i Ihc < jucfn in r.ivnr nl' ipflauil In its struggl'' lor .-iclf-i^ovi'i'iiuu'iit. In ISST, tlicsiliintiDii lia 1 1iim'0iu(» still inoi<< painl'iil, tlit'iiirht ol' fVeo iiitietitig iin'l ilisciissioii having n-ceivt'il a tcrriMo blow (Voia the scvcrt^ luousurcs instituteil by Mr. Balt'uiii", tho now Secretary of Statt? tor Irt'laml. (~)n tli" iM.-t Apr.!, 1 -iST, Mr. (Jurraii hkivoI resolu- tions |)i'otestiiiu'!ij;aiii-t t!i<! *• oocroioii liill."' Tlic (lebat<> la^teil several (lays ami emleil in the a'loption of the resolutions by !V vote of I')") against 47, iii spite of tlio Ojiiiosition of the I'reniiei- anil of several of hi> colli'agues and principal supporters, Miissrs Bowell, Caning, While, Tupper, Ilaggart, Foster, and Mc- Carthy. Hut this opposition was powerless against the coali- tion of all the Irish menibeis in both jtarties with the French ('anailians and th" entire Liberal i)arty. Mr. i^aurier supplies the <'xplanation of this patriotic alliance between the Irish, French Canadians ami Liberals, in the following speech wliii'h we tnki'. from the Hansard : Mr. Liuii'ier ; — .\s this IIou.se has already twice expressed its sympathy witli Ireland in the cause of 1 i \i. M j.) Kl'EECfl m 'i*!< Home Rule, their? would not ho, under ordinnry circuuiHtiiiK'os, any occuHioii lor un iiddili<tn;il expres- sion of view.s Mild wislie.s ulreiidy well known. But the cireunistiUUMis to-dny iire not ordinary ; they are even more painful and deploralilo than the ordinary cireunirttanees ol'tliat uidiappy hind. A ninv cahiniity meiuice.s it, a cahunity ot' mo ^reat :i, chiirii(;ter that it call?" for an additional expression of th<' sympathy, not oidy of thcj.se who love Ireland, but of tiio.'Bo as well who love Knfi;land and fair phiy and are proud of her name. It mu.-t he atlniitted tiiat it is a most evil day, indeed, not only for Ireland, hut for Knjrland as well, when in thi,-? Jui>il(>e year, in any part of the J{ritish Kmi)ire, a civilized i)eople is to he srn.IKCTKI) TO !,.\ws ,So ClirKI, as those contemplated to he imposed ui)on the people of Ireland. The honoral)le memher for North Hruce (Mr. .McNeil), who addressed thf! House yesterday, coiu'luded an able and moderate .speech which was directed mostly to ostahiish the proposition that co(!rcion in Ireland was necessary, hy proposinp a re- solution to the <;fre(t tliat the Parliament of Canada should not exi)ress any opinion as to ihe course of Imperial leiiislation. l^ecause our I*arliaim>nt had not the requisite information upon which to otfer an opi- nion ; hut the honorable gentlennin himself must have thou^jht we had suilicient information, since he came to the conclu.=?ion, in his speech, if not in his mo- tion, that coercion was necessary for Ireland. On tlie other hand, the friends of Ireland, with the same in- formation at their command :is the honorable gentle- man has, may come to a different conclusion, and believ(> that the true cour.-e to be followed is not the course of coercion, but that of freedom. lUit. more- ever. Mr. (iladston^. li<:litinp; on behalf of the Irish ])eople. invites all tho--e who sympathize with Ireland to record their sympatliy with the .stru,L;-gle ■ **' IN FAVOn OF Ili>MK niM.E now liciiiy ivmdc Tii a late letter lie h[>oi1v'» as follow.s: — I attacli very lii,s:li value aw\ iiiiiM)it:iiicit> t(t tli" iiriiiil'i-itii- (ion, WW incessant, ()rAiui.M'ii'an a-- wv'll an <V)'i)iiial >ymiiiitliy witli tli>» Iri-ili i)i'')pln in ill ' misis ci-i'iiti' I l)y llio cansaless, insulting' anl ni->iiii)u.s hill at pri's-nt hufori' I'ai'li'uncnt. \V(>ll. if the ailviee of the iVieiiils of Ir«;hiirl may l»e of value to tlv 'o wlio are now (jiijfaLred in liglitiujf her hattle. it j^eeniH to :i;e that the ailvieo of all tho.^e suhjeet:^ of Her Maje.sty, who have ciijoyeil TIIK llKNKKirs o|- IIOMK lUI.I-: lor fifty yearn, may be of still f^rejiter value from their experieuee of the lih^ssiiiL^'-^ of Home Rule; ami in that vit!W T say eniphatieally that tlie .sa;,fge-ition:) of tio class of Her Majesty's colonial suhjocts, as to tin; blo-isinifs of Home Rule, may he more jirolitahh' tiian the suiige^t ions of Her Majesty's suhjecls of Kroneh oriffin. And, s|ieakin<j asa French ("anailian, I cannot help compnrini; the history of my own country with tht> history of Trelaiul to-day. T see much similitude between tiie situation of Ireland to-day and the ditua- tion of Canada, and esiiecially Lower ('anaila, lifty years ago. It seems to me that the public nuMi who to-day have to deal witii tin' cause of Ireland are hampered by a <Ustru.?t of the Irish people in the same way as the pul)lie men who had to d(!al with the cau-ie (»f Canada (ifty years a;j;o wiiie hampered by a distrust of the people ol" Canada. There are only twn ways of governini!; men — by despotism or coercion, if you choose hi call it liy that mimo. or by iVerdotn. You can coerce an inferior ,ind an uncivilizi-d ra<'e, but never a i)roud and sclf-respei-tin^ people. Coer- cion has been tried, not once or twiec, but times almost without number in Ireland, and it has failed every time; anil, if tried aj^ain. it mu^t fail as it did l)efore. The Irish people would not be the proud people tlnit they are, if they were to be cowed by coercion into ! . . 344 SPKE(;H ,m nban(l(tnin<i one Hin<rle iotii of whnt tlioy (Irrni to lio tlieir iu.st ri^ilits. TIk? liunoriiMi^ incnilirr lor J5iuct' (Mr. lilcNuilj 3iii(l ycHtcM'duy timt Cdorcitiu had lieen HUcct'Hsful. At l('a«t T uiiderHtodd him to Hay ho in ri'j^ard to the last coorcioii l»ill, that it HUiipif.wHod criine. How can siuh hm^'uage he hold ? IK (OKKCIoN lIAIi IIEF.N srccKHSI'l I, in Irehind. Imw is it that the state ol' Trchind is what it is t()-(hiy ? The honorahle },'eiith'niiin liiin^^elf (U'Vuted the j.fre!iter part of his speech to deniouslriito that crime to-(hiy is rampant in Irehmd. Coercion can punisli crime, it can cnisli out ail expressions of puhlic opinion, it can choke in tii(^ thioat eve:) hci'oro tliey are uttered ;ill \vor<ls of conip'aint or remon- •trance,l)nt it cannot hreed contentment and affection in tlie hearts oi'the people I'or the ( Iovernment.it can ufit induce that cheerfulness and allefriance whicli should lie the aim towards which every (iovernment should tend. AVhat is wanted to-d.nv in Ireland is not a law to punish crime, hut a state of thin<is which will suppress crime hy suppres9in<r the motive for crime, the motive for a.LM'arian ci'ime, which is the only ciime existing in Ireland. What is wanted is a state ol" things which will hring contentment to the hearts ot" the jxjople. a state ol' things which will make the ]■('(»- ]>le happy and proud of their allegiance. This is what is wanted to-day in Ireland, and, since it is proved, and ]»rovetl, it seems to me, heyf)nd dis])ute, tluit coercion has failed as often as it has heen tried. T ask of (hoi-e who to-day support coercion, not only in thi.s Parliament hut out of this rarliament. if it would not he well to try the other method of governing men, the nielhod of freedom ? Strange to say, all tiioso who to-day oppose Home Rule, whether on this con- tinent or on the other continent, all those who today advocate coercion, must admit, and they do admit, with more or less reluctance, that IN KAVnU or IloMK lU IE ^45 sn.MK KIND OK I.uCAt. OoVEUNMENT should 1)0 «.'riinto(l to Ireland . Even the Ii'inoiablo gentleman wlm placed in ytnir hands the aiiiendiueiil you now have, th(»u^di his Hjieeih wan ihvotcil tu tiie |)i'o|)03ition that coertion was neceasary. still in this amcndtncnt adhered to the rescdutions in I'avof of llonu! Ilule whiih wer<' jtassed hy this House. This is not unusual. All tlmst! Htatt-sinen, as far as my knowh'd;:*! f;;(M'S, in En,<j;lanil or out of Knj:l:ind, who hav<! treated thai sulijeet and have come t" the eon- elusion that coercion was necessary, at the same lime have said that, after all, the pre-eiit atiite ofthin<,'S was inloleralde, and that some kind of local irnvern- \iH)\\{ should he devised for Ireland. At the same time they are misty in their views. While statin;; that ii\ one hreath." they stille it in the ne.xt ; w hilst admitting' that Ireland should have sume kind of local ailministratioii, still tlu'y all comdude their utterances hy stating that, alter all. the Imperial Parliament sliould have ahsolutc enutrol nverlucal matters. And what is tlu; secret of it all ? The secret i.sthat the men wluxhuil with that qut'stinu and oii|»ope Mr. (ilad.stonc! at this monn'ut. distrust th<' peniile of Ireland, and one and all believe that, ifanytliin;; like leifislative iudependenoe were given to the peupje of Ireland, the people of Ireland would sim|)ly make it a stepping stone towards effecting «'oiuplete separa- tion from the Empire. As far as that goes, I am reminded of the history of my own country, of the history of Canada, and especially of Lower Canada. The honoralilo gentleman who seconded tlu' addrcj-.s the other day, the honorable member for Albert ( Mr, Weldon), in an able and well-temp(Me(l speecli. reh>r- red to the fact, that in the fir.-t ye;ir of Her .Majc-tys reign there was rebellion in these i)rovince.s. He t'lok some pride in saying that there had been n<i reli''!lion in the Maritime i)rovinces. That is .so. There was no rebellion in the Maritime provinces, but there was discontent in the Maritime provinces, there was agita- 3' ♦ I » 340 SPEECH tinn ill the Maiitinic proviace^j, and wliat was the caiHO of it ? Till' discontent and the airitation aro.sc I'roiii the fact that the ])eoi)le of the Maritime provin- ce.?, in connnon with the people of all the Uritii^h pro- ■.'ince^. (h^nianded at that time more; extemled loesil liberty. There was tlie same discontent throughout the lenuth and I)readth of Upper Canidn. There was even V'^l ■in;.' UKI'.KI.t.IoN r.\ UI'I'K!{ CANADA, thiiuirh it was restricted within narrow limits. I>at th(n'(! was rebellion throuj;hout [iOwer-Canada. rebel- lion, which wa,s ])rofound. bitter and dee[)-rooted. We have heard of late that rciellion may exist without (!au>e. that it may exist out of sheer malice, and mere wantonness; but the (iovernminit of JMigland did not iielieve so. Tlie (iovernmcnt of ]On'j;land thought that, since the people of the British colonies liad risen in arms against lii(! (iovernmcnt, there must be some cause i'or that uprising, and they sent out one of the most eminent men of his day, Lord Durham, to inves- tigate the cause of that rel)ellion. iiOrd Durham came here, he did his work, and he did it well ; he investigateil the causes wb.ich had led to the rebellion in i,n\vcr-(".anada. and ti> the rebellion in Upper- ("anad;i. and whii-h had sjji'ead discont(;nt all over lU'itish tei'ritnry in America, and he re[)orted to his (loveinment. Tt is not my iluty to-<lay to review the r(>poit of L!)rd Diiriiam at baigth. Tf that were my duty, 1 should have to lake most serious cxcei»tion to some ol' tlio conclusions at which iie arrived, esjic- cially as they alTectetl my own countrymen, of French oriLnn : but 1 am speaking to-day only of the general cau-es. which, in the opinion of fiOrd Durham, led to rcl)oilii>n in two of the provinces, and general discon- tent all over the 'iirovinces, an<l the remedy which he then sugue-^ted. F^ord Durham laid down as the cause of that rebellion and discontent the fact that the aspirations of the peoi)le for freedom of local govern- '■■!: -' am. IN FAVOR OK IIOMK Iin.K 317 ment were continuiilly chockod 1)y the condact of tin.' Colonial Oflicc, and he suj?<i;p.-«te<l !is a remedy that the provinces should l)e iiUowod the most (;OMri.KTK I.KiilSI.ATIVK INOKPK.N'DKNCK. lie said that legislative independence slmnld he even given to those colonies wiiich, at that time, v;ere in tlie throes of civil war. His iilea was that, if the aspira- tions of the peojile for ahsolute uiitranunclled freedom of local government continued to Ik; t'hccked hy the Colonial Ollice, the irritation |)rodiu;ed hy that course would lead the people to ask not only for local free- dom, hut for altsolute severance from the Kmi)ir(!. Whereas if the wiches of the people for local ij;overn- nient were i:franted, if they had ahsolute indepeiideni'c in their local ntfairs. their local interests and their Imperial ])ride would he nt once irratified and the ll;i^ Avhich protcct('<l their local liherties and recalled to them so n\any glorious association^, would ix^ miide all the dearer to their hearts. It was a hold conclu- sion, so hold, indeed, that the most 1 iheral-mindcd statesmen <tf the (lay iri England shrank from it. in the same immner that to da\' the ino«t lilieral-minded men in Kn^ihiud shrink from applyinu the sann; doc- trine to the gdvernment of Ireland. liOrd John Russeli. who was at the time Colonial Secretary. ;ind ime uf the most Hherid-mindcd men nf his day. had to review the report mndehy Lnrd I)ur ham. He a<j;reed in almost everythinij; that Liud Durham had said, except in the particular of ;_nvini; free and independent legislatures to the colonics. I'pim that suhjeel he spoke as follows ; — It does not aii|ii'.U' to me tli.'it yi)U eiiii .- iitii''i''t tlic ivNccii- live (Jillllicil of ( "ail;i 1,1 1(1 till- re>|ionsili|lit\- iviiieli ;-; fiiiliv (It'iimnlt d I'l tliv^ Miiii-;ter.- <ii' tlic Kxeoutive ,1'''^^'^'' ''i thi-' count ly. And after having dilaied at lemrtli ui>tnthis idea, he concluiled as follows: — [ know no reason why tlie I.eiiislat ivi' A-seuiMy. \vli''tli>'i ol'eac!i. separately, oi' ot botii proNimifs unile<l. -Iioul I noi l).- w h t ■• }4S !^^EECH > ; listtineil to witli (loleiiMice ; hut 1 am not prepared to lay ilown a principle, ami a new princijile, for tiio future govern- un'iit of tli(! colonies, tiiat we oujilit to suliject tiic Executive tlnri- to the same restriction-^ wliich [)revail in this lountry. Speakiiii: nf the impos.filiility whifh exislod in hi.s lumd of j^riintinji; the Siiuu- aiuount of Icgi^jlalive indeponduiice to the colonies that existed in tlie ino- ther-co\irilrv. lie made those other remarks : — ').:i-vA I'.ut ilic " loveirior olf.'anaila is actitig not in tliat hij:h and niKi--ail.il>ic position in wliich the Sovereign of tiiis ■ ountry is )il;i*eil. lie is a irovei'iior receiving.' instructions from the ( 'rown on tiie responsihility of a Si;cretai'y of State. Here, 1li( II, at once, is an olivioiis and cDniplete ilill'erence hetween llie Mvt'cutive nf this country and the Hxeculive of ii colony. I'lie < iovernor nii.iriit a>k tli.' Ivxi'cutivi' < 'o\nicil to propose a certain uiiMsuri'. They might say they could not propose it unless the memhers of the House, of Assemhly would adofjt it. li'.;t tliii <iovernor miiiht re[dy that he had received iustruc- tif)iis from home comiuan ling him to propose that measure. How, in that ca^e, i- he to [iroceed? Either one power or the other mii^t lie put aside. Either the ( iovermnent must con- trol tile Hoiisi' of .\-;seinl'ly, or else the • tovernor must liecomo a meii! ci)iliei in the hands of the .Vs^embly, and not alt<'mpt to <'arry into eH'ect ihe m^^asures <'ommaiided by the Home < iov<'llimellt. So. tlicn. such a lilieral-tninded man as FiOrd .Tolni Ilnssell could not see his way to adopt tlie con- clusion of Fiord Durham, and to grant ahsolute le.^'is- lative indiipcudonce iiud respousihlc government to a cohiny. To liiiu the oh-siacles seemed to ho insav- niountahle. We are aware that those views of Lard Tohu Russell prevailed for some years. Tiie govern- ment of the colonies was attempted to he carried on the same lines here traced ijy Lord John Russell, that i.« to .say, upon tiie old line.s, not upon the lines traced liy Lord Durliam : not upmi the view thtit responsil)le government sliould lie granted to the colony. It is a welldvuown fact that (.luring those years this country had no peace; it is a well-known fact that during all IN FAVOR OF HOME RULE 349 that time an agitation was constantly kept up. and the country led a miserable life and made no progress. But at last a master-mind came to this country IN THE PKKSON OK I.OIU) KI.(;IN, and he did not shrink from giving us the al>solute legislative indeiiendcnce for which the country had been recommended to the statesmen of (Ireat Jbitain. but which they deemed to he inconsi-^tent with the interests of the Kmi)ire to grant. Lord Klgin did not liesitate to subject the Ministry of the country to the same responsibilities and the same restrictions that prevailed in England. We know that he did this in spite of all the reports of the Tory party in England, who at that time fought against Canadian freedom with the same bitternessjand violence with which they are now lighting against Irish freedom. Jkit notwith- standing all those efforts Lord Elgin's view prevailed England granted the most complete legislative inde- pendence, and resp<uisible government was introduced into the provinces as aljsolutely and as com])letely as it is carried out in England. Did any of the dangers which were expected to follow from this course, arise? Nor did the Imperial interest suffer and the agitation, which had been going on for local freedom, immediat- ely ceased ; immediately contentment prevailed where there had been discontent. and loyalty followed where there had been disloyalty before. And to-day. Mr. Speaker, as you well know, in this the Jubilee year of Her Majesty's reign, there is not in this broad Empire an inch of ground where there is more dutiful and more loving allegiance than in this very country where fifty years ago rebellion was bitter and deej)-rooted. That is '^i a THE EI-'FECT OF LIP.ERTV, that is the effect of local freedom granted to Canada. What would be the condition of Canada to-day if this 111!! ■ ' i ■■ i-irii' ;}oO ppi;i:cir 'i: 1 .> ■* , 1'^ \t '■■?»■ ■' i-i ^fi» It n ||, 1 Q course had not beiMi foUowjMl. if the old practict' had htit'U t'olh)\ved of ke('j)iii;.' tlic )K'o])Ui uiuh.'r.iuhjoction, of rcfu-infi' ihi'iii tlioi^e lt)cal lihcrticv-^ for which they w('r(? ch'inioriii^' '.^ ( )ur condition to-(hiy wouhl he tlie condition of Irohmd tii-(hiy, tiiat of nnllen discontent and agitation a. constant praying for reforms which were never )_M-antcd. Sir. there is no rehollion to-day in Ireland, it is true, Init is there contentment ? Ts there cheerful- ne.-s of heart in the allegiance whicii they uwe to the Crown of JMigland ? Sir. tlie comlition nf the Irish people to-day is afiout tlie mo.-t niiserahle of any people in Kurope. Must this last forever? fs there no remedy to such a state of things? It has lasted already for seven long years, and shall we i)e told to- day that there is no remedy for the evil? I say, in view of our own experience, there is a remedy, and that remedy is not cncrcion, hut freedom. I^et the j'lnglish ( iovernment tieat the Irish jieopl(> na they liave treated the Canadian peoj)le. Let them trust the Ii'ish people as they liave trusted the Canadian peoi)le. Let them appeal to their hearts, to their gratitude, to their nobler sentiments. Let tiiein loosen the gri}) in whicli they now hold that uid'itrtUha.te land, k '- them I'ive them soi ue lueasure ot IOC ^il lil)erty, lot them restore the Parliament to College (Jieen. an<l I ventuie to say that this lung accuiuu- lated hitterness caused liy ages of oppression will melt av.ay in a very I'cw years ; 1 venture to -ay tliat. after that, the hnnd of uninn between Knghmd ami Ii'eland will be stronger than it ever was liel'ore. It will not lie a liond of union liased upon physical force, but it will be a bond ol' union based U[)on m uUial affection and respect. Sir, we will be told perhaps t)h. but thert! are demagogues in Ireland u ho would prevent such a, course."' There may bo demagogues in Ireland; but demagogues in a free and happy country are not dangerous, it is IN KAVfiU OF IIuMK Kll.K 351 TIIK TYUANNY OK A ( ;i iVK l;x:\IKN'r tliiit iiialsc.5 (lomngofiues clnnperou8 and ijoworlul. We will lie told again ; " Itut there are men in licland who would uhi he eoiitcnt with loc:>l lil.erly. who would aspire to a coiniiletc Hepara(i(Ui nf Trchmd from the Knipire."" That may he true , I dare say it is true. Hut T say afxain that if there are sueli men. Iheir power would not last one nnnute after Ticland had ohtained that local lilierty which slie now asks ; yes, their power would not last, hecause either they wi uld thcm.selves have to he reconciled to the existing slatt? uf thing.a. or their pnwcr would he gone. Just take; t he examiile o f Paj )niea u in L>iwer Canada. Tiier< wafl never a man in any nation who coiiimanded a greater sway over the hearts and nnnds ol' his fellow- cuuntrymen than did I'apineau hcrnic (he year of r(;l)ellion of ]So7. Yet after tlie rebellion, after we had lieen granted respnnsihle govei'nnienl.l'apineuu at- tonjited an agitation with the jieojjle of l>ower Canada to induce them to repeal the A(,'t of I'nion, and that agitation I'ell pertectly Hat ; the same men who a few years hefore would have plied their hlo(id at his com- iiiand were no longer res]ionsive to his voice \\- lat wa^ tl le reason Th ('. snn})le reason that the people had ohtained local liherlies which secured ;ind ])rotected them, and they were v<((incilcd and satis- lied with their condition. Su( h wouM he the re-idl, 1 vent'ur(> to siiy. il' the same policy wt re r<illow( <1 in Ireland that wa.s followed in Lower Canada ; and such licini;' the casoit hehooves us, not onlv decs it helioove us, hut it seems to me it is our I'ounden duty, as niendiers of this great iMiiiiire. to strain every r.erve in or(h!r to strengthen the hands of those struggling in the cause o\' Irelarid. and to show hy our living ex[)erienee that in order to ni!d<e the government of Ireliunl strong, it is nciessary simply to make the people free. I I m mil •"i.,r" p-'i ^ .' w^i> » H MR. LAURIER, Leader of tlie CaDadiaii Lilieral Party (iRAND OVATION TN TITS HONOR THE TR-MC AT SdMEKSET It was an occasion of groat rcjoicinu; throughout the jiro- vince of Quebec wlien tlie Lilioral memltpjs of tlio House of Commons, against his own wishes, in InST, met and cliose Mr, Laurier to succeed Honorable Edward ]>lake as tlieir leafier. A groat picnic, in honor of the event, was organized and took place on the 2nd August of tlie same year at Somerset (Megantic) and at this picnic the admirers of tiie '' future Prime Minister of the Dominion " gathered in thousands. The leaders and principal members of the party came from all points of tin' province by the regular trains Irom Montreal, Quebec, Levis and St Ifyacinthe and by special trains from Coaticook, Richmond, Three-Rivers and Arthabaska. On the stand, when tlie meeting opened, there were at least two hundred Senators, Federal and I'rovincial members, ex-members, journalists itc. Congratulatory addresses were presented to Mr. Laurier by tlie inhabitants of the place (Plossisville) ami of Drunimond and Arthabaska and by the CI nh Xal i'nud oi'^t llyacinthe, the C'lid) National of Coaticook and the Liberals of Richmond. The speakers on the occasion wen* : Honorable Mr. L'lurier, Honorable Mr. Mercier, Premier of the province of Quebec; Mr. John Whyte, ex M. P. P., Mr. Geo. Turcot, M. P. for Megantic, Honorable C. A. P. Pelletier, C. M. < K, Mr. ( t. .\myot, M. P. for P.elh-'chasse, Mr. .J. Lavergne, M. P. for Drummoml and Arthabaska, Dr. Turcotte and Mr. Ernest Tremblay. The proL'rainuic speech made by Mr. Laurier aroused extraordinary 23 or J SPEECH \ Hr \h\:':> nco all eld ontliusiasin, Ijoing paitiouliuly reiniuki'il tor the priTeri-i wiiiih the orator gave to a British customs union, il' nt realizable, over the American customs luiion, which then lu... tiie place of unlimited reciprocity before the public <'ye, an<l, iit a time when French ('ana<lian loyalty was keenly called into question by their trailucers, this ileclaration falling from the h|..» of one of the most authorized reinesentalives of the French Canadians was a suuunary reply to such insinuations. (Translation.) INIh ClIAIKMAX, Ladies axd Gentlemen, No cloul)t, I ?lioul(l conmicnce by exl)re?f^ing all the gratitude T feel for the mure than cordial rccoittion you have given to me on the present occasion. Still, I canndt help at the very outset acknowledging the l)leasure I experience at finding myself once more in this good parish of Somerset. Among the addresses presented to me to day, I am free to hay that there is one ^vhich has particularly touched me. I refer to that coming from my old fellow citizens, if I can cull them so, from my old friends of Somerset. In it, there is one sentence espe- cially which I can never forget ; it is that stating that the citizens of Somerset have always regarded me as a hrother. Indeed,! can say that, during the twenty years I have known the fine parish of Somerset, I have been always treated rather as a brother than as a stranger. It is now twenty years since I put my toot in this village for the first time, and since then I have very often been here on professional business, during the happy period ^vhen my i)rofession alone claimed my attention ; I have also come here many times since I have embraced the political career, the fact being that, in all the elections since ISi'u, there was only one in which I did not take part, and that was the last, when my friend. Mr. Turcot, ^von so glorious a victory. On Hiy arrival at the station some of my old " '<! AT i^U.MF.USLT IN 1SS7 355 f^oiuerset friends were good enough to tell me that tiiey very much regretted my ahsence from the coun- ty at the last election. This was very kind and llatterinj: on their |)art. 15ut I am certain that no matter what T might have doro I could have added nothing to the trium;)h of my friend. Mr. Turcot, h^till, 1 would have been glad to have heen aide to he pre.-ent, if only to revive the old associations which have always boui <1 me to the parish of Somerset. This i.s my first visit to Somer.-;et since the disas- trous tire which swept this village two years ago. And what a transformation has l)een efTected ! Indeed, no one in the world, unlet-s he was previou.^ly ac- quainted with the Somerset jteople, coukl understand liow this tine village, which was only a heap ofashes, has risen so rai)idly from its ruins. T am happy to note that, in the reliuilding ofthis village, party spirit was forgotten. T know that, at election times, it has its Liberals and Conservatives, but I also know that, alter the elections, there arc no more Lilteruls or ('onservatives, HofOKS OH lil.EfS, And, in this connection, it occurs to me to ask myself, gentlemen, if by any chance there remain any old lUeus in the township of Somerset ? And this time, if we were speaking at the place we used to speak formerly, I would ]dace my hands over my eyes and ask myself if there remained any old Bleus ; I do not think there is one remaining. Well, the time has arrived to j)ut our shoulders to the wheel and to work together to raise the country us you have raised this village from ruin. Gentlemen, I owe you thanks for the welcome you are giving me to-day ; I thank my friends who have flocked here, so to say, from all parts of the country. T see among them people from the old coun- ty of Artliabaska, which T long had the honor to re- present ; I see friends from my own native place, with iE IF' i !*M1 3o6 SPEECH v' > I ■vvlinni I went to "Jchdol. and T pee ])ci»|)le from the division whidi I now have the honor to represent, friends from (iiu^hec! East. T tlinnk nil for cominji; here; I sjjecifilly thanl< my friends of Somerset, for having taken the initiative in this mnfrnifiront demonstration ; and I also return my tlianks to my friends of tlie county of Arlliahaska for the leaulifnl iiddress which (hey presented to me. Tn fact. 1 think it would lie impossihle for an address to (xpre«s wiirmcr sentiments. I do not hlame any one, where every one thoujiht he did his duty, hut I do not liesitate to say to the electors of the county of Arthahapka that, when they rejected me in 1S77 and that the sif^'ual honor was con- ferred upon mo of l)ein<r called to rei)re?ent what T he- lieve to l)e the most jiatriotic constituency in the* country, the division of Quehec East, tliey rendered me, peril a p?, a great service. ^ly friends, you all congratuhite me upon my selection to henceforward guide the destinies of THIO I.rr.ERAI. PAUTY OF CANADA. You congratulate me, gentlemen, on this circuni- stance.butTdeidore it and you also, I am sure, deplore the sad event which has deprived tlie Liberal party of the leadership of a man like the Honorable Edward IJlnke. The lossof ]Mr. IJlake. gentlemen, is an irrepara- ble loss to the party which he directed with so much wisdom, grandeur and brilliancy, irreparable to the party which followed him with so much devotion and affection, and irreparable to the country to whose in- terests he gave his intelligence, his health and his time and which, I must say, repaid the sacrifice so badly. You congratulate me, gentlemen, I must, how- ever, acknowledge that it was with the greatest repug- nance that I accepted the position which was offered to me by my friends in the House of Commons. As AT S(».\lKU.St:T IN 1887 3o7 Hoiivt'U is my witnc-'s. gontleiiK^n. I uevor souu'lit or covotcil thill i)(i-itinii ; luy triemls, docming me witrtliy '»t'it. ixiivo it ti> me ; l>ut. Inr my p.'irt. I never desired it. not t'eeliiig in myrJell' tlie (lUu'.ilirutiiHH {or it ; I WDiild liuve miieli proierrod to continue in the rule which 1 liad until tlien lilh'd, that of u Ireo h'liiee oltJK! Lihcral [larty. tal<infj,- ))art in tlie li<:lit wlien my teolin;j,s impelk'd ine in that direction, ratlior than tu aci'cpt the lieavy re^pon^ihility whirli T munt now hear a.-i leader. Nevei theh'ss. I stilled my olij(!ction*, lielievinj^ it to he my duty to accept the post .«ince my iViends insistcjd on it. f con.sidered that the .''ervice.s whieh we owe tn mie another madi' it a duty I'or me to take in my party the mo.--t e.Np<i.sed post, since THE .MOST t;xi'osi':n i'ost was ai=3i<j:ned tit mo. You congratulate me, gentlemen, and you con- gratulate the Frenrh Canadians on tiie election ol' u French Canadian a-* leader of the great Liheral party of the l)iiminion of Canada. r mu-t do thiH justice to my honoralde cidlengues (tf the I'lnglish toiiiiue in the House oi' Commons, to Sir Uichard Cartwright, to Mr. Davios, to >[r. Mills and to a host ot" others, who had more claims than T hiul to the position of party leaders — T mmt do theui the ju-tice to say thai they do not seem to rememhcr that -\ve ar(! not ol' the same origin or, if they do remendier it. it is only to allirni. hy their acts as hy their wonls. that, in the ranks of tin; Fiiheral party, there is no ([uestion of race, hut that all are e-iual. Undouhtedly. gentlemen, T um a man. and men, as you know, have their sympathies and their jirefer- ences. JJut 1 will say with the Fiatin poet ; •• llinnn sion cl liKiii lui nihil (I III'- alirntnn piilo ''; " T um a man and T should be a stranger to nothing human " and, as a friend inthecmwd said a mnmeiit ago. I am a French Canadian, with all the pride oi my race, l)Ut all the riuht!i..of the Bi'itish cttnstitution are as dear to me as 3r)8 si'EEcn lU-i- tliDse of my race — iind, if tlie ncriision cvrr iirose that tlio riylitrt of our scpiinitcd hictlirou were (Hsjiihid. I would (l(!f(Mul tliciM witli lis nnu'li euerj^y anil coKvic- tion as I would those uf tny own race. The nianncM- nii<,'ht, perhaps, not ho the same, hut the iiupul'^e most assuredly would Ix;. Tt may seem idle to onuneiato truths us eertain as this one. hut there i^ now more than ever occiision to recall it, hecause T re^n-et to say that hetween us — and \ do not eonliue my remarks to the province of (Juehec, but apply them to the entire Confeileration — the pre- judices of race and creed Imvi' increased in hitterness since the tra^dc events which have ensan<,'uini'd the North West. With a zeal worthy of a l)etter cause, a certain portion of the Ontario ])ress has heen doinii its hest to divide tlui Catholics from the i'rotestants. ami \ refrrel to .say that in our own ]»rovincc these attack.s are ofton repelled hy means fully as reprehensihle. Wiiethcr they come froei tlu^ Catholics of Qnehec or from the I'rcttestants of Ontario, appeal.s to preju- dice are eijually dei)lorahle. For my part. I have as much aver-ion for the mim who appeals to Catholic prejudices in the provinct^ of Quehec. as lor the man who ajtpeals to Protestant prejudices in the provim'e of Ontario. The true ])atriot, gentlemen, is a strani^-er to llat- tery — h(> only knows justice. The true patriot always uses the same lan<;uage. whetlufr he addresses himself to the Protestants of Ontario or to the Catholics ot' Queh(!>. The true patriot has only one measure, that of justicc.justice to whom justice is due. lias not this more than anything!: else character- ized the political career of llonoral)le Kdward I'lake? Neither for the [)osses.sion of i)o\ver, nor for any other motive, did Mr. Hlake ever i-too]) to api)eal to in'eju- dices ; if he hail a defect, it was the defect of g; rent pouls and j;rand characters, Init we do not call il a. delect, but a tovereiirn quality and it (h'tuinated his nature. • AT >;t).Mi:U.SET IN 1SS7 .".oO TIIK t'AlSK OV Till-; \Vi;.\k ANK Til K ol'I'llKSSKK attnictod liim, so ti) say, ii)stiiictivi'Iy W KM'C irt tlio iiiiiii 1)1" oiir raco ulni lia-i (lol't'iido'l with more energy and vij^'or than Mr. Ulako the causo of the lialf-l)r('('(l"t driven to revolt and crime liy t!ie in- ju3ti('e of ii |)erv«!rse (lovernnient ? Where \n th(! Hon of Ireland on thi? continent \vh<» lias defended tiiu cavneof that unhai)i>y country with more elo(|uen'^o a d lo^nc;? French Canndinns, Task you one tliiii<.' — lliiil. "while, rememhering thnt T. a iMench ('iinadian. have been elected lender of the IJheral party of ("aniida, you will not lose ni^ht of the fix't that tlie liniit-< of our common (tountry are not confnied to the province of (Ju(!hec, liut that they extend to all the territory of Canada and that our country is wherever the Uritish ilag wavc^i in Anierica. T ask you to romemher this in order to remind you that your duty is simply nnd. ahove !ill. to lie ("anadians. To he Canadians I that Wiis the ohject ol' Cunfederntion in the intention of its authois; the aim and end oi' Confederation was to l)ring the ditfeveot races closer together, to stjfti'U the asperities of their mutual rehitions, and to connect the scattered groups of I'ritish suhjeots. This wa^ th e programme twentv years ago. Hut are the divisions en(ied? The trutl is that after twenty years' trial of the system, the Maritime i)rovincts suhmit lo Confederation, hul do not lov(> It. Til e provnue .f M initoi)a IS m open revolt against the Dominion (iovcrnment, gentlemen, not in armed revolt, like the revolt of the half-hrceds. hut in legal revolt. T1h> province^ of Nova Scotia, demands its separation iVom tlie Confederation. In fact, carry your ga/.e iVoiu east to west and tVom north to south, and everywhere the prevailing feeling will he found to he one of unrest an( I un easme-JS, Ol' DlSCO.NTK.NT .\Mi I UKITATloN. i^nch. gentlemen, is the pictu/o wliich unrolls m 1 J' M ! 1; . ' ! «■ ill r 'ii 'i: » i(i 7^ ■ 3(50 SiPEECH itself to-(la}' to nur eyo3 after twenty years of tlie regime of Confederation. Tt will be said, perhaps, that this pioture is overdrawn. T ai)i)eal to the sound good sense of my present hearers ; unJnrtunately. the picture is only too realistic. And yet, it is perVectly true that, if this Ix- tlie painful state nf tilings whieh we have to imte. tlie fault does not rest with the insti- tutions, hut with the men hy wlmni we are governed. Tln' I'ault does not rest with the institutions imderwhich we are governed, because they areexcel- ient. and. for my part, T at once declare, in niy ijuality as leader of the Liljeral party, that T propioe to do ail in my power to inculcate love and respect for the in- stitutions under which we live ; those institutions, gen- tlemen. are excellent. 1 am a Hi'itish ^Mliject : T aiii of the French laec ; 1 have jM'oclaiiued the fact in iIk; province of Ontario and I am ha[i|)y to pi'ochiim it again to-day before countrymen of my own race and nu)ther tongue. 1 am jirnud of my allegi.ince. T shall not sl<>ii to discuss the question so ol'ten a subject of controversy among ourselves as to the manner in whieh we lieeame llritish subjects. l)id we become ISntish sulijeets by 'MMKiuest nr by cession ? There '^ no dilliculty in the matter for me, and no more, oil history than on contem])orary events, have [ any desire to conceal my way of thinking. Tf Mont- calm had not lost the battle of the Plains of Abraham, the Clievalier de Levis would not have ca]iitulated and the treaty of Paris would never have been signed. That is the position. lUit T state here before my brethren of the French language and before my hreth- ren of the ]'"ng!ish tongue that we have made A (MiEATEli A.NO A MOliE (il.oiilors CONijlKsT than any territorial eon(iuest; we have eoni|Uei'ed our lii)erties, and. if the event of to-day has any meaning, we can allirm without fear of mistake that we owe it to tlie acquisition of our civil and ])olitieal liberties. We form part of the liritish Empire, iJi^ 'y AT HOMEHSET IN ISST 861 \ve are Uritisli subjects ; uiul reiuoinlioi', geiitlciuen, all the iligiiity and priilo that were involvcHi in the title of a Roman citizen, at the IteginninLi' of the Roman era when St. Paul, loaded with ehains iind on the point of lieing Huhjeeted to unworthy ti'eatnient, hail only to exelaiiu : " I am a Roman citi/en "" to he treated with the respect to which he was eniitled. We are IJritish subjects and shoulil he proud of the fact ; Ave form jiiirt oi" the greatest euijiiu' cw the {^•lohe and are governed hy a constitution, which has liec^n the source of all the liherties i»f the modern world. I even <i() further and maki* hold to siiy that V ain an aihnirer of our constitution, rndouhtcdly. it is not perfect; it has serious defects whicli my friend, llonor- ahle Mr. M<'rcicr, vill he called upon to soon correct at the interprovincial conference. .Vml. speaking as I do, I state my [lersonal ideiis. For my part. I have no hesitation in sayinji' that the princijile of oui' ("on- I'ederation, that is to say, the principle of the separa- tion of the le;,dslalive powers, is a soiirct; of iirivile<re.s for us if we know how to properly avail our.-clves of it. Jhit. mifortunalely. freijtlenien. we have not knowri how to do so thus far. However, as T said a moment ago. if there is discontent amongst us. if there is irritatiim fi'om one end of tlie province to the other, the fault rests with tli(.' men wlio liave governerl us; the fault I'ests with the men. who, instead of govern- ing according to the spirit -if our in.stitutions. n.WK i>i>aKriAi;nKii tiik i'liiNcii'i.K ok i.o( A!. i.ii;Ki;riKs and local ir*'^'rests, the recognition of which li(;s at tlie very basis of <uir constitution. The evil dales from ahir. it is true - I'rom the very origin of Confede- ration. I referred a slmrt time since to the ea-e of Nova S(;otia, whirh deniands to go out of the t'oid'e- deration. into which it wa" dragged by force. Well, to bring back Nova Scotia iiito Cord'edcration, the most elementary principles of justice and of all con- stitutional libertv were violated. ' r '^,^ It-'.!' i^;i- ! i ':■ !:■, 062 SPEECH Nova Scotiii (lid not want Confederation and desired to remain. !is previously, an Englisli colony ; but her rights were disroifarded and against her will she was forced into the ('anadian (Confederation. T ani therefore not astonished that Nova Scotia still feels just as sore as slie did on the first day, though twenty years have ehipsed since then, and the reason of this is tliat all the promises that were made to Nova Scotia and Xew-]5runswick, that is to say. to the .Maritime provinces, to indut-e them to enter the CJonl'ederation, have been odiously l)roken. They were (jromised a moderate tarilT such as they had until then lived under. And instead of tlie moderate taritftlicy were ])romised, the tariff, which e.\isled at that time, has? been since doubled, triple 1 and even in some cases (juadi'U|)led. And for what jjurpose? For the purpose, gentlemen, of depriving the Maritime provinces of their natural trade, of tlie legitimate trade which they had enjoyed until then, for the ])uri)Ose of destroying the trade wliicli they had with the United States and to force them to trade with the west. The Govern- ment i)oli('y was triumphant on this ])oiiit; it worked to a charm in destroying tlie trade oftin^ Maritime ])rovinces with the United States, l)Ut it failed to cre:ite a trade lor the Maritime provinces with the Avest. because, if you can legislate on tariff (luestions, YOU cannot I.K(;isl,.\TK A(..\I.\>T (a':ooU.\I'II V, The Maritime i)rovinces ;ire very much in the same po^ijtion as the unliaiqiy Tantalus, who was seated at a tahU» loadeil down with delicious nii^ats and yet could not touch tiieni, becau-e every time he stretched (»ut his hand to do so. the table moved away from him. So it is witli the .Mai'itiine provini'es. Tiiey have a market open to them at tlieir Vfuy doors the market of the New England States — ami they cannot .avail themselves of it. They have a well dressed table before them, but they can never touch it. AT SOMERSET IN ISS? 363 i But, you will tell me tluit the Maritime provinces PU|il)ort tlie (ioveriiiueut. T rc^grot to say tliiit it is true that they support Sir John's (loveniment. JUit at what |)rice? At the price of millions taken out of the ])uhlic chest and distriliutcd among them. In order to carry tlie l^ighy ehjction. l)y a majo- rity of 28 to;i(» votes. the (iovernment were obliged to spend not less tlian .S'iS.OUU I hold in my hands the documents e-tahlishing tlu fact. Tiio ix'ople of tlie Maritime provinces do not oh- ject to the HK)ney which the (iovfirniiiiMit di-*triliutes among them and ready take the pur.'^c which is held out to them. l)Ut they continue none the less to reject the hand that is i)rofcrcd to them, saying : Since we are in the Cont'ederation against our wishe."*, let us make all we can out of it ; luit Tonfederaf ion will never re- ceive our love ; it will have our votes, r.UT on; heart, nkvkr ! The end of tliese prodigalities is now drawing near and, when it comes, what will happen ? The existing discontent will continue to e.xist and when the means Avhicli have heen used to allay it no longer exist, th(> discontent will then spread nmre widely and when it lias permeated the whole social hody, it may h(! ask- ed, to use John Ifowe's ex|)re-!sions : •• What next ?"' AVhat will hapi)en ? T do not know, hut the (juestion is one wliich should "laim the thoughts of ])uhlic men and T canntit help helicHMng that the men who are to- day at tiie heath Sir John >hic(h'nald and his collea- gues. sh(udd give it a thought. lUit, if Sir John .\lac- donald does >■<), it must he alter the fa.-'hion of I.ouis X\' with regard to the State of I'rance. when his throne Avas tottering and wIkmi his reply to tlio-e who spoke to him on the suhject was : •• Oh 1 after all. il will lu-t long as 1 last."" This appears to he the policy of the present C>overnm(>nl : it will last as loivj: as Sir John ^lacdonahl and when Sir John Macdonald disappears. 1,'; S 364 SPEECH IP w m ililll AFTER IIIM THE ]>EI,U(iE ! I sliiill not allude to the causes of the discontent that jjrevails or rather that prevailed not long since in the North- We^t, as my oljjeet is not to indulge in recriniiniitions. I do not allude to the diHcontent which prevailed in the North- West, because the North- A\'est has done justice to itseir. It had grievances .md the Cr(jvernnient was forced t" recognize and n'dress thcni. And since the ([uestion U ended, gentlemen, all I will say to-day is that it only remains for me to hope that the Ciovernment will hereafter give the ful- lest satisfaction to the jjcople of tlie North-West and endeavor to repair all the harm it has done them. lUit, if there is no longer reason to speak of the cause of discontent in the Xorth-^\'est. there is certainly reason to sj.'cak of the cau.HCS of the discontent now prevailing in the province of Manitoba. <ientlenien, the province of .Manitoba is nnt jieo- pled by h;ilf-l>reeds alone as is the North-West ; its popnhition on the contrary is coni])osed of the most civilized elements furnished by the most civilized peo])lc3 of the Old WorUI. And' yet, at this present hour, it is an undenial)le fact that the prDVince of .Ma- nitoba is in reviilt against us. not against us as a lieoi)le, but against the ('aiiadian (it)vernnient. Legal revolt, if you will, but revolt, certiiinly. open revolt against the authority of the Canadian Uoverniuent. And if the ])roviiice of Manitoba is in revolt to-day against the auihority of the Canadian (iovernment, it is liecause the Canadian (iovernment has not kncnvn liow or rather has not desired to respect the legisla- tive independence of the ])rovince of Manitol)a. Leg- ishitive independence is the liasis of our constiiution and. to my mind, the principle P'lr rx^'ellityut of gov- ernment. We are all Federalists. At the tinic of Con- federation. Sir .Toim .^lacdonald declared that for hi- part he was theoretically in favor of a legislative union, tluit is to say. that he wanted, as he said liini- eelf, onlv one Parliament and one Coverument ; but, *i Lwiaiwwn AT SOMERSET IN 1SS7 365 in the face of the state of things wliich existed in the provinces and their hostility to a legislative union, he was obliged to accept a federative union. In a coun- try like ours, with a heterogeneous population, a sepa- ration of powers is absolutely necessary. I go further and say that even to govern a homogeneous people, when that [»eople are scattered over a vast territory, a separation of powers is also necessary. In that case, legislative union would necessarily lead to tyranny ; and I 1 i A FEDERATIVE UNION IS THE ONI.V ONE which can secure civil and political liberty. Take, for example, gentlemen, our neighbors of the United States. Suppose that in that country there was only <me Parliament, can it be believed for a moment that the neighboring republic would have attained to the present high degree of prosperity, which it has known under its system of federative gov- ernment ? The same argument holds good with respect to our own country. Even though climatic influence3 were the only motive, it is a recognized fact that the ethnographic characteristics of a same race vary according to the climates. The man of the South, the man of the East and the man of the West in the United States exhibit traits and manners peculiar to each, so that it is perfectly obvious that thepe different classes of men must have different wants, that Texas and Maine, Louisiana and Massachusetts have differ- ent local requirements and that California and Rhode Island have not the same local wants. Could a single power satisfy all these local interests ? Would one Parliament be suihcient for the purpose. In fact, is it not manifest that to meet all these local wants, local legislatures are an absolute necessity ? Suppose that there was only the Congress, and it will be found certain that in some places its legislation would weigh arliitrarily ; there would be discontent, and instead of the harmony which we see reigning among our :i^ i' \. I ' ni 306 SPEECH !^ t neiglibors, tliere would be acrimony and, instead of the prosperity ])revaiiing all over, tliere would be only poverty and ruin. Now, what ig true ot' the United States is equally true of our own country. Our situation is excelle'it and we have further what they have not — a less homogeneous people tlian theirs. It is evident that, in our province, we have not the same wants as the province of Manitoba. So that it must be perfectly clear to all that the moment local vmts arise, the federative principle which makes the distinction between local interests to and general inte- rests, is the only system by which men can be gov- erned in all liberty. If this principle be true, gen- tlemen, and I think it is so, it necessarily follows that the federative principle, legislative separation, is THE MOST roWEUFfl. FACTOIl IN NATIONAL IXITV. Legislative union does not resi)ond to local wants and must necessarily press tyrannically somewhere, thus creating the desire for complete sejjaration, while the legislative separation of the provinces respects the rights and conduces to the happiness of all. As I have iilready told you, gentlemen. Sir John Mac- donald was theoretically favorable to a legislative union. The necessities of the hour, however, made him a supporter of a federative union, but you know the French jjoet's saying : C/iasscz le iiti/iircl, il rericnt an ijulop. ( I) In the case of Sir John Macdonald, the natural came back at a galop, nay, at a triple galop. Since 1878, Sir John Macdonald's natural has got the upper hand and not a year has passed since that date which has nv t witnessed an attack by Sir John on the autonomy of the i)r()vinces. The license act. the rail- way act the franchise act, are there to testify to Sir (1) (Chase tlie natiiiM!, aiul it comes back at a galop.) AT SOMERSET IX 1887 im John Macdoiiald's centralizing ideas and to promote Ills encroachnicnts on tlie rights of the Local Legisla- tures. But fortunately all these attacks have not succeeded; if they had, we would have a federative government in name, lait a legislative union in reality and t?ir John would be absolute master of all tlie pro- vinces, of the province of Quebec, of the province of Ontario, and of all the other i)rovinces from the Atlantic to the Pacific. Unfortunately, the constitution by which we are governed and for which, as already stated, I have the greatest respect, has placed in the hands of the(lovern- ment aterrible weapon which it has used, when and how it ])lea9ed, to assail thehjcal liberties of the provinces. This weapon is the veto jtower, which is reserved to the Cioveniment by the constitution. Section .5('> of the British North America Act provides that the Bri- tish Parliament shall have the jiower to disallow the acts passed by the Parliament -if Canada. And section yo gives the same jiower to the Central Government, to the Government of Canada, ovtv the act.s paesetl by the Local Legislatures. Sir Johi' ^L.tuunald has taken advantage of this i)ower to exercise a system of tyranny over all tlie provinces. Ihere are two kinds of disallowance: THE .ILDJCIAI, DISALl.OWA.NCE AM) THE roi.lTUAI, DlSAI.I.t)WAN(E. The judicial disallowance is exercised when a law is transmitted to the central power and the Min- ister of Justice is of o])iniou that it is not within the powers of the Local Parliament; in such case, he makes a report to the Executive Council that it is ultra vires and it is disallowed on thai rei)ort, that is to say, that, from that moment, it becomes null and void. Gentlemen, this mode is not satisfactory ; indeed, it is one of the most arbitrary things under the sun. When a law has been ]jass<jd by a J.iOcal Legislature. ■ ll } -It ■'■(.■ I i:'\ \ ! 1 h ■ 3fi8 SriiKCR there is just as much reason to suppose that it is within the powers of tliat legislature, as there is reason to suppose tlint it is not, because it has pleased the central government to declare it so. This provi- sion dues not exif-t in the American constitution and the fact is that it very olten happens, that it has ver}' of- ten happened, that the central government, on the aim- pie pretext that a law is not within the powers of a local legislature, has vetoed that law, although it has since been e.stal)lished that it was iiitm rircs of the Provin- cial legislature. I see by an extract from the (l/firinl Gaziitr that the (iovernment ofCannthi has just disallowed the law passed by the Quebec Legislature in ISSO and entitled '" An Act respecting the executive power ''. The disallowance of this act is couched in the follow- ing terms : GOVERNMENT HOUSE. OTTAWA ':&'•■• mu ':;■■ TupscJny, iWtlnl.-xy of .Inly, ISST. ///.» ExccUcncij the Govtrnur General in council Whoroas the Lioutenant-Goveinor oi'tlie province of Que- bec with the Lcjii.slative Council an<l Assembly of that province did, on the 2bst day of June, A. D. ISSC), jiass .-in act whicli has lieen transmitted, intituleil " an act respecting tlie Executive Power. ■' And whereas the said act has been laid before the Gov- ernor (icneial in council, together \vithare|.ort from the Minis- ter of .Justice, setting forth that he is of oi)inion that it was not competent for the legislature to j)ass such act, and therefore recommending that tjie said act be disallowed. His Excellency the Governor-General has thereupon this (lay l>eea please 1 by and with tlie advice of his Privy Council to declare his disallowance of the said act, and the same is hereby disallo\ve<l accordingly. Whereof the Lieutenant Governor of the province of Que- bec and all other persons whom it may concern ai'e to take notice and govern themselves accordingly. JOHN J McGEE, Clerk, Privy Council. AT SOMERSET IN 1887 869 I. Sir Iloiirv Charlies Iv^'th P.»tty Fitz:iiaurioo, M:irqni» of Lan^downc. (rovt'i'iinr-'ieinTal ot'Ciinaila, <lo heroin' certify tliat tlie a!t passoil hy tlic loi/islature of tlio proviiict! of Qucbeo oil the 21st ihvy .)f June. isSii, ai^l intitulfd "an act n-spccting tlie excoiitivo power " wa-i rcceivotl by luo on tlio-Oth day of July. ISSti. < riven under my hand and seal this KHli dav of .Fnly, lS-17. LANSDchVNE. For my part, gentlenion, without knowinif the facts any more than I do, I am inclined as much to believe that tlio legislation placed on tlie statute book by Mr. .Mercier's i)re(leces.sor, Mr. Taillon, who was then Attorney General, was within the attri- butes of the Local Legislature, as T am disposed to believe that it i.s not within those attributes because it has pleased Mr. Thompson to declare that it is not. The Minister of Justice may be right or he may be wnmg. If he is wrong, gentlemen, he deprives the province of the benefit of a law which its Legisla- ture! has deemed essential to its administration, and it is not thus that a Confederation should lie worked. It would be much better I TO ADOPT TUB AMEUICAN SYSTEM, that is to say, to leave the ])ower of disallowance to the law courts. But there is more than this, gentlemen. There is the i)olitical veto which is by far the most arbitrary weapon with which tyranny has ever armed a federative government. According to this system, a law passed by a Pro- vinciiil Legislature, even when entirely within its powers, may be disallowed and annulled, whenever it pleases the Cioveinment of Sir Jtjlin Macdonald. In a word, it completely destroys the legislative indepen- dence of the provinces and it is the exercise of such tyrannical powers which has driven the ])rovince of Manitoba to revolt. That province is a province who*e chief product is wheat, and it therefore has need of railwavs to forward it to the foreign markets. It 24 'HI Hr ,11 '. m- W i 1 ■••' '■ ' .■'If: .■;\|'* ;, m 870 81'EECH lins two rnivfls. hotli uncVir the control of the Ciina- «liiin Piicillc I'oiupiiny, which charfrcs oxor])it!Uit riitc.s ot'l'roij^ht. And the niouient thut thcv-^c rates vri^'hed ho licavily that there was no lonjrer any jiiiifit left in wheat-f^'i'owing in Manitolia and that the entire iiopidation rose, an one num, to demand wlint they liad a riglit to ch'inand, that is to .«ay. additional rail cuminunication?, the I.oeal Lcfxislature ol'tlie pru- vince. to meet tlieir urgent n-fnurements, ))assed ii numl)er of cliarter-" to estahlisli line.-i of railway lie- Iween the city of Winnipeg and the American houn- dary line. Thereupon, the Ottawa Government, avail- ing itself of the arhitrary power I have juht de- nounced, vetoed these acts as fast us they were jnissed. This conduct, gentlemen, involved not only an act of tyrnnn\', hut A SYSTEMATIC VIOLATION of it? word hy the Ciovernmcnt. We have a proverh in French which says : '• Frank as the word of a King." When it ifc sui(i that : *'The King's word has heeu given, ■' all lias been said. The King's word Avas given hy Sir John Mucdonald, hut the King's word was lirokcn by Sir John Macdonald's Ciovernmcnt. Sir Jolin had given his worJ in LS.si. At that time, the monopoly wa^ to apply simply within the territories controlled hy the (iovernment of Canada and not in the province of Manitoba. The law itself on this point is unequivocal, and Sir John Macdonald's own de- clarations are not equivocal either. On that occasion, Sir John said : ^'MT In order to give thoin (tlie C. r. J{.) a chance, we have providod that the Domuiion I'ai'liainout — (mind yon, the Do- minion Parliament : we cannot cheek any otlwr Parliament ; we cannot elieck < (ntaiio; we cannot check Manitolia) shall, for tiie first ten years alter tlie constrnction of tlie road, give their own roail, nito wliicli thc-y are putting so much money i.nd so nuicii land, a flur chance of existence. AT SOMEIfSKT IN 18*^7 ;;7i As you Ciui i)ercoiv('. Sir Julin Miicdoiuild diil not then pietoiid that lie could control tlio proviinc of Manltol);i. the proviiict^ of Qiiclit'c, or tlio province of Ontario. ()n tin; contrary, he di.-4tinctly Htateil that the Ciovornnient of Oanada had no ritrht to control ihe Icfjishituro of any province, and a ^cntlcnian. who Vt'arf then one of the ino.-ft eminent nionihers of the IIou.'o of (.'onunons and who is now a inenilier of Sir John .Mac(h)nahrH (iovennnent. Ilonorahle Mr. White, declared in still more cateuoricid terms that the (iov- ernment hiul no rif?ht to control the (iovernment of Manitolia. lie said: — But we iii'c toM now that bor!iiis<>nrtlie (iftoeii milos" c'.ause there iifvor can ho any la'ilway in that coantry. Ti> what (loL'.s that aiPiily? Siiiqily to the t^^nitorioH over whirli tlie Doiuinion I'ailianient lia>* contiol. There is imtliinp: to pii'Vi'nt Manitoha now, if It lliinks iiropi-i, mfintiiijj a chartcM' for a rail- ^vay fmm W'iniiipcjr to the lioandaiy hno. At tiiis very mo- ment then- is a conqiany in course ofoif-'.ini/ation to hiiild a railway fi'oni Winnipeg to West i-ynn on tlii> honiniai'v nid, after this agreement is ratilie(l. tlifs jn'ovision does not t;il;e away from .Stanitol'a a single right it jio-sesses ; in fact, the Parliainont eouM not take away those rights. It has tln'same I'iglits as the otiiei' provinces for the ineorpoi'atioii of I'aiiway c'onipanies witiiin the boundary of the province itself and there is nothing to ))revent tiu^ jirovinco of ^Manitoha trom eliartering a railway from Winnijieg to the houndary to connect with any southern railway. I'lii' only guarantt-e \viiich this company has under the co-.itraot is that tluMr ii'atlic shall not l)e tapped iar west in the ])rairie section, thus flivcrting the tratlic away from tlieir line to a forcMgii line, Ijut there is nothing to prevent a r.'iilway to he huilt in Manitoba within tiie province that would carry the tralhc! to any railway that may tap it from the American side. That is the position with resi>ect to this matter. What does this clause ap})ly to ? Simply to the territory over which the Ciovernment of Csmada had control. There is no possihle room for doubt on this head. In the minds of the authors of the Paciiic contract themselves, the (.Government of Canada had no power li i; *^i.i-V V'i..'!'' iff;?'' 37£ SI'KECil to (lii=!illii\v tlie laws of tho ])rovinoo of Maiiitnliii niul vet. 1)11 tour or liv(! ililVerent occasions. Sir John Mac- .loiiiild'H ()ov<'rniiient lias di.sallowf^d laws liy which the .Mnnitol)a (iovcrnnient sovight to estulilish rail- wny couiniunication.s. What happened? Tho (luvernnient of the ))ro- vince of Manitoba, the (lovernnient of Sir John Mac- donald's friend, Mr. Nonjuay, was itf^elf obliged to take the initiative in passing a new law to incorpo- rate a railway Irom the city of Winnijieg to the Ame- rican boundary line. And, in spite of that law, in spite of the i)ublic opinion of the province of Mani- toba. Sir John Macdonald's ( lovernnient again vet<»ed it. lie vetoed Manitoba's right to ha\e RAILWAY COMPETITION and I call the si)ecial attention of all who blame tlie half-breeds for resorting to arms to the actual situa- tion in Manitoba. The people of Manitoba, it is true, have not taken up arms, but, nt this moment, they are openly break- ing and setting at defiance the law of the land, since thai law, as itf-tandsor is detincd by the constitution, declares that, by the will and authority of the Gov- ernment of Canada, the people of Manitolia have not tlie riglit to build railways, and yet for all that, at this very hour, they are l)uilding one. If this is not revolt, what is it then? If it is nut a revolt, gentlemen, I want to be told what it is? And, after all, who will blame the people of Manitoba ? The very (Government, which has sought to control them and to impose upon them its tyrannical yoke, has been obliged to yield and retreat. Why ? Ikcause it knows that the people of ^lanitoba are able to take the necetsary measures to successfully defend themselves. This right of veto which the (iovernment iiossesses over the Provincial Legislatures is the same as that possessed by the British Government over the Cana- dion Parliament. That is to say, that the British 11'! mf [ AT SOMKU:<ET IN 1SS7 • M 3 (iovernnu-nt has over the (iovprnmciit of ('aniulii the Panic right.-i iH tho (iovprniuont of (':ina<hi has over the I'ritviiicial Lc.iiislaturcn. liut, tlioutrh ('()nt'('(h'- ration has luiw hi'iMi in cxistciic'e for very clo^e U|ion twenty years, I have no recoUection — and my memory is a prt'tty >:'oo(l one — of th(( British (iovernniciU ever ha,vin;j; disuvowed n, sintrle Canadian huv durinjr tlio«e twenty years. I make a mistake : \ now renienilx-r tliat the liritish (ioveriinienl disallowed one law passed hy Cana(hi. hut it was a law which iiad Keen passed hy the Canadian I'arliament to enalde the eoinniiltee a|)|)ointei| to emiuire into the I'acilic 8can<lal to examine witnesses under oath. That law was disallowed hv tin- Ih'iti-ih (lovernment AT •111: lUvMANi) OF sru .lOII.N MACDoN A |,Ii II I M-KIK. It was only when Sir John Macdonald asked the liritish (iovernment to annul our le^dshition that that (.iovernnient intervened, never otherwise. And lor a good rea.sou, lieeause tlu; British Government would \\n{ he ^niilty of the tyranny, of which Sir John .Mac- donald's Covernmcnl i^ j^uilty towards the provinces. IMore, too, the Government of Canada would never stand from the British Government the tyra\iny to which Sir John Macdonald's Government i> suhjeet- ing the i)eople of the i)rovinces. Sir John vetoes the acts creating railways in Manitohaon the ground that those laws are not in harmony witli th.; policy of Canada. But if the Government ofCireat liritain pro- posi'd to veto a Canadian law on the pret(>xt, gentle- men, that it did not S(|uare with the policy of Great Britain, I have no hesitation in saying thai the Tories themselves would he constrained to protest against the liritish Cfovernment's interference. The Tories are very loyal in this country, at least, as far a.s liii-!oyalty goes. But, in 1S7'..>. the Tory Government a(lopted a fiscal ]K)licy, which not only did not Hijuarc with the general fiscal jtolicy of Great Britain, but was openly ho.stile to the policy uf 371 SPEECH (Iroiit Uritain. And when the CrHt.s of Onturio con- tenchnl tlmt lluit policy would endanger the colo- nial tie, the Tory answer was: " So much the worsie for the colonial tie! " From this you can judge what •woiild hai)pen if the Jh'itisli (lovernment thought proper to meddle in the affairs of ('anada. We should not do unto others what we would not like to have done to ourselves. And just as the Tories would not he very ])leased to see tlie JJritish Cioverninent ste|)- ping ill to veto their laws, so we can demand that the Federal tiovernment shall Nor INTEUFEUE IN Ol'Il LOCAL AFFAIRS ;Mv friend, Mr. ^Mercier whom I am ulad and wlio m »l! i» » you ai'e all liappy to see at my side iiere to day Mr. Mercier. who comes amongst us with his laurels still fresh from the T.iaprairie victory, will tell you in a few moments that he is on the point of calling an inter provincial conference. Without knowing exactly what his programme for that interi)roviiicial conference is, I tru!:t. gen- tlemen, that this (juestion of disallowance will he among the sul)ject3 considered and that he and his colleagues will suggest an amendment to the consti- tution which will once i'or all put an end to the aluises of the veto power and clo-c the door fm'cver to the tyrannical acts whicli sir John Macdonald's (lovern- ment is so prone to in order to attain its ends. There is another (inestion on which (he conlerence Avill have to iironounce— (he (pu'slitm of (he i)rovincial sul)sidies. On this ([Uestion. T hclievc. gcndcinen, tha( Tam in accord, indeed, as T have always heen. with .Mr. Mercier's views. The prnviiicial suhsidies are a cause of ever increasing uneasiness in the different M-oviiices. The roo(oftlie evil lies in the fact that the mode of distrihuting these suhsidies is altogether vicii'iH. Kor my part. T may say tluit my personal opinion i« rather oppoi^cd to the pro\'incial suhsidies. AT ?;(1MKR3ET TN 1>>'^7 o ( .) T would like to see tlio province:^ with revenues liir<;o onougli to reiidei" them huleptMnleiit 'if tiie Ft'Jeral (lOViTuincnt. The i)riiu'i[)le under whic^h one gov- erniuent collects tlie revenues and another govern- ment spend-i them is AI/rotiETIIEU FALSE, and mu*! always lead to extravagance. Notwithstand- ing all the eonli l:Mice T have in him, [ helieve that my tViend, Mr. Mercier himseli", will have all the troultle in the world to contend against the erro- neou^ncs.^ of that system. Ft is now an e.sta!)lislicd fact that the suiisidies i^ranted to the provinces an; iuade- fpiate ; conse(iuently they have on several occasions been augmented and these successive? augmentations, made without any regard to rule, cou'^titute in rea- lity a system of corruption in the hands of the Fede- ral Clovernnient and have been too ot'ten used by it to reward ]iolitical treachery. I liave confidence that Mr, .Mercier's Government will suggest a better method. lUit, as tlie suliject is one wluch will claim attenti. at the interprovincial conference, I shall not dwe.l I'nrther on it. The (iovernment's fiscal ])olicy is another cause of public uneasiness. You all know the old saying: " Promise more butter tlum bread!'' This wn-; the tactic of the [)artisans of Sir -Tohu's (iovernment at tlu^ elections of 1^7S. They told ynu that they had in their jxickets an infallil)le [Jana'CM., the a|>plicalion ol' which would cause the land of Canada, TO KI.OW WITH MII.K AND IIONKV; il something that would mike you sell dearer all you had to sell and en;ilile you to l)ny ;ill ymi wanted to buy so chcMiily t hat yioi might lie said to g* t it I'or nothing at all : something, in line, which would put liread in every mouth and money in every purse. Uecall. gentlenn'o, tlie proinises that wi'r(> made I m p ' "l . ■ «'^i f i « t 37G SPEECH to you lit tliat time. You were told that the ills of the country proceeded from foreign competition. It was said : Only try our system, our '• National Policy'' and, from that moment, all who are obliiied to seek work in the United states, will find it in plenty at home; manufactures will .sjjring from tlie ixround by enoliantment, they will arise on all the rivers, on all the water courses and even on all the brook? and the farmer will liavc a remunerative local market for all he can sell. I do not blame the people of this country for allowing themselves to lie carried away liy tliese falla- cious itromLjcs, because the_y were alluring. They took them seriously and in good faith. But wiiat has been the reality ? I ask if it is not true that. THE CANCER OF EMIGUATMN i.s continuing more than ever its dcsli'uctive work. T ask if it is not true — at least, it is my con- viction — that there is not lU per cent oi' Canadian families, who have not one or more of their members in the I'nited States ? And if I asked all tho,-o. who are listening to me at tliis moment and who have re- lations in the United States, to raise their hands, Imw m:iny arms, gentlemen, would I'C raised, beginning witli my own. (Cries of " Every one of us!") Yes, " every one uf us ." I therelore believe that I can again assert what [ stated a moment ago — that there is not 1(1 per cent of tlie French ("aiKidian i)opalation, who do not count some one of their kindred in the United States. As regards agricultiu'al i)roducts, you were also told that \'()U would lind a market here among your- eelves and that, if you accepted the national i)olicy, you w(Uild have markets all around you. Have you these markets at your doors? And with resjiect to the prices you receive for agricultural products. I venture to say - and on this point I do not feat con- AT SOMER.'iET IN 1SS7 0( i tradiction — tluit tlmse products never sold at lower prices than they are selling at to-day. In fact, they are not sold ; they are given away. Wheat, oat.s, barley, and other products command no remunerative price and are now disposed ofTchcaper than ever. The new order of things was to have produced a reaction. The reaction has come, gentlemen ; it began in the province of Ontario; il has not stopped within mode- rate bounds ; on the contrary, it has gone to extremes, and, at this very hour, the great mnjorily of the Ontario farmers are clamoring for commercial union with the United States, that is to say, the supiiressiou of all customs duties between the two countrie?. For my patt, gentlemen, I am not | reparcd to say that the advocates ;uid adepts of commercial union have as yet very clearly dclined their vicw.s. NVhat lies at the bottom of the idea, what we see clearest in it, is the expression of a feelijig in favor of recii)rocity. The idea is badly dclined, j)erhai»s tiiere is the feeling of which it but contains the germ ; there is the conviction that any kind of recijjrocity with the ]jeople of the I'lated States would be to the ad- vantage of the [)eople of Canada. The reciprocity idea has always been ONK OK TilK AUTRT.ES OF TlIK l.I liKliAl, I'KooKA M M K. Ft)rmerly from bS") 1 to ISn.j, we had a reciprocity treaty with the United States and all are agreed in saying that that period was the linest and most pros- ]jerious iu our history. The credit of that treaty ])el<)ngs entirely to tlu' Liberal party and on thi'i head I think I cannot do better than cite the evidence of Sir John .Macdonald himsell". when, three years ago, he said in the Hou<e of Commons : hi tlio (list pliico tlioi'i' wns till' oi iuiiiiil I'ocipi'fjfity tscaty wliii'ii was tiiiiiliy coiisuininatoil in l'>')l ; tln'iii'^ it ot'tliat a- l.ir as (,'ana<la was concoriied rcstfil altn^'i'tiiei- with tiif alministra- SPEECH (I ; • ' Mr' ' ■:'''MT^.^ tion of Sir I'lvaiiois llinck-i, tlio Fjiboi'ul (rovernmont of thnt 'lay, altliou^h tlift < ioveniiuent of wliicli I was a luoiuher in 1S.j4 lia'l aocmlcnUliy, from tiio retirement of Sir {'"ranci? Ifiiicks, the duty of carrying out till" ti-eaty to its consummation, hy introilncinu and curi-ying into law tiio act wliicli ratified the treaty ; .still it was the merit of the Reform party and it was a great merit, lor it did a >^reat service to Canada. Tints, even according to Sir John Macdonald's testinionj'. the merit of the r(M'ii)rocity treaty with the United f^tutes belongs to the Liberal party. And, as lie admits, it was no slight merit, because that treaty Avas of imnionse advantage to Canada. As yon are aware that treaty came to an end in ISdO. Sir John Macdonald was in power from lSi,)!i to 1873, to the close of l-ST-'J; but did Sir Tohn Macdonald ■•W I ■ '•i-'k EVER HA.ISE A FINGER to ol)tain its renewal ? Never. l)Ut, when Mr. Mackenzie came to power, the first thing, so to say, which he did, was to send an agent to Washington. Honorable tieorge Brown, to negotiate Avitli the American (ioverninent for a new reciiirocity treaty. Mr. ]>rown jiert'ormed the task , he succeeded in making a treaty to which the ( ioverninentassented, but imfortnnately it was not ratified by the American <iovcrnment. Matters remained in this condition, but reciprocity was so po])ular that Sir John .Mac- rlonald himself, when he proposed the national policy, which, as T have already remarked, was to cause the land of Camnla to How with milk and honey, said that he was pre^i.tred to abaiKhni it for reciprocity. ITerc are bis own words : I'liat tlie Speiiker do not now leave the chair, l)ut tiiat tins House is of o|iinion that tlie wi^lfare of Canada vei|uii'es tlie adoption of a National I'oliev wiiieli Iiy a ju lieious rea IJuslme It of ilie tarilf will iienefit and fostei' the a;j:ricul- tural, tlie miifmi:. the m uiul'ictucing and other intei-ests of the poniinion : that such a policy will retain in L'.iiia la tlious- i<m AT .SOMERSET IN 1887 amis of our i'oUow counti'vincii now ohlii/cil to expiitiiato tlicm>elves in seaich of tlio I'miiloyiiuMit deiiiod thciu at liotuo, will restore prosjioiitj' to our striijigling industry now so badly depri'.ssed, will prevcMit (.'inada from bi'inir made a sacr.lioi' market, will t'ncf)urai:i' ami d('volo[i an active inter- jiroviiicial tiade and, moving (as it ought t<") do) in the <liree- tion of reoi)irocity of taritl'-, wirli oui' neighbours .^o far as the varied interests of Canada may demand, will greatly tend to procure for this country eventually a rociiirocity of trade. As you will perceive, ^ir John Mactlonald was ready TO ABANDON THE NATIONAI, !'()I.I(V if, on their side, the Anieriran (ioveruiiient woulil grant us reciprocity. He even went turther and de- clared to the Jlouse that, if we adopted the national l)olicy. that is to say. the retiiliation policy, the I'ni- ted States, whether it liked or not, would he ohliged to grant us reciprocity. In 1878, he agiiin made the following slateuient : There is no wrong in a reci)irooity of tarilfs ifitistoour interests, hut 1 am eontideiit that one gi'eat ohject in having someihint; V\ko a retaliatory ])oliey will he iliat it you are to haverecii>iocitv in tiade you will only get it in that way. They will not have anytiiinu' lil^:',' reei|i!'oeiiy ot'ti'ade with iis unless we .-how them that it \vill he to their advantage. — Wliy should they give us reciprocity when they have our markets open to them now? It is only by dosing oui-doois and l>y cutting them out of our markets that they \vill open theii's to us. There is !^ir John MncdonaM- statement. IJcta- liation alone c(ntld open the Americnn m;irket to ns and during the same year. Sir Charleys Tupjier made a tour of the miiritime province.^, prnchiiniing tlie same thing — that if we adapted a jioliry of retaliation the Americans woidd he comiM'lled in less tlnin two or three years to open their doiirs. That was the policy of the Federal (iovernment— a ]ioli(y of lotidiation. The Federal (lovernment told the ])eopl(' of Canadn, Ill ■ iSO SPEECH and tlioy did po without smiling, tliough perhapa they Huiiled inwardly — that if they the people of Canada, iiunibcring live millions of souls, closed their iloors against a population of sixty millions, the hitter would l»e soon so starved i>at that tliey would cry : *' mercy 1 mercy I for the love of (jod. open your doors, or we will die ol' hunger ! '' During the following year, THEY CARltlEl) OUT THEIR rilUKAT. rf 1 • : ■ hi 'i':fu You arc not without knowing, gcuitlcincu, that the Americans would sooner suffer from hunger than open <'.eir doors to us under compuK-ion and that they would rather have no trade wiih u-^ at all thauap[icar to yield to our bullying ; conseiiuently, they have not bet n in any great hurr}'. And when the (iov- ^'■•nn.cnl closed oar (h)ors against the American trinh' t\ioy 'nserted in the act creating their fiscal policy . clause offering to admit all American agricultural products the moment that the Anifcricans were ])repared to admit ours. Ifere is the clause in question : \'l — Any or ill! o( the loMnwing iirticlo.s, that is to say ; AniinaU of all kinds, green IVuits, hay. straw, bran, s».>o Is ofall kind!!, vegotable.s (iiiclniling ]intatojs, and otiier root-),) |)l.ints, trees and slirubs, coal ami coke, salt, hops, wlieat, pea- and beans, barley, ryo, oats, Indian oorn, bncis: wheat, and all oilier grains, ilonr of wluMt and II )iir nl' rv<',In ban meal, and oatuii'al and Hour or nn;al ol any otlu-r grain, butter, choese, lish (salte I Ol' siiioiied) lard, tallow, meats, fr(^s|l salted or sniokeil, and lumber may be im|)orted into ("ana la tVei' of duty or at a less late of iliity than is provided by this aot, nj>'>n pi'ocdamation of the Governor in coimoil which may be issued, whenever it appears to his satisfaction that similar r-U'ticles from Canada may be imported into the United States free of duty or at ii rate of duty not exceeding that payable on the same under such lU'oelamation when imported into Canada. For nine years now this bait has lieen dangling in the water, but the fish has not yet bitten at it; for nine 3'ears now. the government of Canada has been AT SOMERSET IN 18S7 381 standine; ready to throw open the Canadian inarketa to the Americans, if the Americans will only reci{>ro- cate by tlirowing open tlieir markets to the Canadians, hut the Americans, tliougli tliey pass for hcing smart businc?s people with a keen eye to their own interests, have not thnught pro]ier TO TAKE ADVAXTACIE OF oril Ol'KEUS. Gentlemen, having thrown out their hait. the Gov- ornment have since that time folded their arms and refused to make any other move. P'urther. they would not even raise a finger to renew the negotiations Avith the United States for the jiurpose of securing reciprocity. More than that, in 188-1 Mr. Davies, of Prince Edward Island, made a motion, pointing out to the (iovernment the urgency of reopening negotia- tions with the United States for a new treaty. It was as follows: That, in view of the notion of tho tennination of tho fishe- ries articles of the Treaty of Wasiiiugton given by tlie I'nite'l States to tlio liritish Government and the consefjuent expira- tion on the 1st July, l^'^'). of the recijd'ocal privileges ami exemptions of tlie Treaty, this House is of opinion that steps should 1)6 taken at an early day by the < iovernment of Canaiia with the object of bringinj" al)0ut negotiations for a new Treaty jiroviding for the citizens of Canada and the United States tho reciprocal i)rivileges of fisiiing and freedom from duties now enjoye<l, together with additional reciprocal freedom in the trade relations of the two countries; and that in any such negotiations Canada should be directly represented by some one nominated by its riovornment. Now, what was Sir John's reply to this proposal ? They (the United States) know that we are ready at any time; we have toUl them unmistakeably that we are reaily at any time to renew the reciprocity treaty of ISVITliey know perfect- ly well that we are quite ready to go on with the lishery ai'range- ments made by the Washington Treaty on the same footing us they were before. They know perfectly well that Canada is * 'jr. l! m H 382 STKECII always, ojifn to enter into any reasonable anangenicnt witii them and 1 think we oii^rht to leave it there. I tliink it wonld do no ;:nnil, I am satisfied it would tViistrato any liojie of enter, iiij: into an arran^'ement with tln'm if we passed tiii.s ri'-olntion, J do not now feel it riiiiit to say what the eourse of the( r )vei'n- nient wonld be. 1 think it would lie preuiatm'ci to say what lifter due consideration and eonsultation witli Her Majesty. s (iovei'nnient may b(j done between now and .Inly, js^.'), I am ((uite satisfied the passing of the fosolutiou declaring that we nnist ei.ter into imiuediate negotiations beijaiise. if that reso- Intion jiasseswe must do .so, it'wiU be an order of this House to enter into immediate negotiations for a renewal of thi> reci- procity tn>aty. would be simply to l>ring upon us the same rebuir we have got on so many pi'evious occasions. h:M- Such was Sir .Ti)lin Maodonald'."? declaration, it wont i'uvtiier. Not only was A RETALIATION POLICY But f\ f ik allirniod by the ppeecli Tliavejust i-ead. hut it was al.so prai'^cil as an exooUent i)olicy. And tlie (iuvern- ment repeatedly declared tliat the aim of ttie tariff of 1871), of their fiscal policy, was to lessen and destroy the trade we were doinji with the United States. Fur- ther still, the Ministerial ])ress. the salaried press and conse(i|Uently the press whi(;h reflected the ideas of the Ministers, declared that the {leople of Canada did not want any trade with the United States. Now, I ask you. gentlemen, if, in the face of this liostile atti- tude, it is astoriishing- that the American (^rovcrnment has never hecn willing to negotiate with us? Moreover, had it been otherwise, our Government wou'd liave done the same thing. lender such circumstances, I sav that the i)olicy of the Liberal ))arty should l»e a totally different i)olicy. The policy of the t Conser- vative party is one of retaliation, but the policy of the Liberal party should be one of friendship and good will towards the United States. It is only by acting in this waj' that we can obtain an exchange of fair dealing and kindliness. It is admitted — and the fact cannot be disputed — -m AT SOMICnsET IN 1887 on, J that, ir tlie reciprocity treaty (if IS.'l was udvunta- geous to the iiitcrcRts of Canada, it was ('(|ualiy of jidvaiitage to tlic interests of tlio rnitod Slates. Still the I'nited Stfito.s have delihcrately refused to renew that treaty. Wliy ? The reason i.s, ^'entlenien, that, during a period of trial for the American nation, the Knglii^h people and tlu' Canadian jieople did Udt •show then THE LEAST SYMP.VTIIY. I hold in my hand a, siieech made hy Sir .T(jhn Macdonald, on the 2ilh .March. ISSl, in which lie acknowledges the fact. On the same occasion in ISS-l to which I rel'errcd a moment ago, on Ilonorahle Mr. Davies' motion. Sir Jolin Macdonald used the fuUow- iug language : We rcj.'iottod when tlic Americans, IVoiu I iniist say a latliiT uiiturai icU'liTii; <>i' irritation a,i.'!iinst En.uland, f^avc noticHi for the eancell.'itioii ami tin: teiinination of tiio 'i'rt'aty. it was no I'anlt f)t'Cana<la lliat lliat i'leaty was tfM'niinateil. Canada (luring tlie tioubcs wliich arose in the oivil war be- tween the North and the South did every thing that she could to entertain friendly relations with the Northern States ; and 1 can ^\■ell lenieniher the repeate(l statement of ^Ir. .Seward who was the presiding genius of the Northern .States in thosi! days that he wishe<l the mother countiy. (ir 'at IJritain, had hecn as friendly in her actions towards the Northe: n States as the province of Canada had been. As far as I am concerned, T may say that, if .Mr. Seward was satisfied with the attitude of the Canadian Government towards the Northern States, during the civil war, it look very little to satisfy him. For my part, I would not have heen satisfied with so little, as I do not helieve that, un that occasion, the people of Canada did tiieir duty towards their neighliors. It is true that we did not do as England did ; that we did not fit out armed cruisers to [ney upon and destrtiy American commerce, hut, on the other hand, a hen ! i^ ,-\^ 5 y84 SPEECH the tilil)U«iterer3 organized tliomselvos in our territory to raid tlio I'rontier tovns of Vermont and New- York, we alk)we(l tlieni to escape witli singular facility after Ixjiiig arrested. (Jentlenien, without holding the (lovernment responsihle for that incident I con- tt.'nd that they arc guilty of having FAII.En TN THEIR DUTY at tliat time, hy not displaying the slightest sympa- thy with tlie American nation during the terrihlc pe- riod from ISfil to ISHo, Avhen the Northern States had on their hands the most fovmidahle civil war the world has ever seen, for the preservation of their na- tional unity. Among the puhlic men of the time there Avas only one — and this fact should l)e kept well ir' mind — who openly ])roclaimed his sympathies for the cau^ic of liherty for which the Northern States were fighting from l.S()l to 186"). That man Avas Honorahle tieorge IJrown. ( Jcntlemen, if at that time the Government of Canada, if the peo})le of Canada — for I think the ])eople of Canada also merit to a certain extent the reproach — had manifested some sympathy — nothing more, for the United States were rich enough and had no need of assistance — if the people and Government <jf Canada had manifested the slightest sympathy, we especially who had a, commercial treaty with them, if we iiad shown that that treaty im))lied also mutual services. I helieve that in 18()7 the reciprocity treaty would have heen renewed. It was not, and I have just given you the reason why from the lips of Sir John Macdonald himself. It Avas the hostility of the American people to England, a hostility provoked hy the attitude of the English people toAvards the Northern States during the civil Avar. But time moves on. healing the deepest Avounds. We knoAV that there is to day in the United States a group of men deter- mined upon giving us AT SOMERSET IN 188" 385 COMMEUCIAL UNION We know that Mr. Butterwortli, a member of tlie American Congress, has brought in a bill for that purpose. We know also that Mr. Wimun has lately visitcil Ontario to induce that ijroviiice to adopt the idea of commercial union. We know that Detroit and *)thcr cities, as well as their trade organizations, liave to a certain extent pronounced in favor of com- mercial union. If I am asked at present for my own opinion in the subject, I may say that, for my part, I am not ready to declare that coinmercial union is an acceptable idea. I am not ready, for my ])art, to state that commercial union should be adopted at the present moment. A great deal of study and reflexion are needed to solve this (iue.-.tion, for and against which there is much to be said. The commercial union idea may be realizable and it n)ay also be surrounded l)y insurmountable difliculties. But I may say this — and it is my actual policy — that the time has come to abandon the policy of retaliation followed thus far by the Canadian Gov- ernment, to show tlie American peojile that we are brothers, and to hold out our hands to them, with a due regard for the duties we owe to our mother-coun- try. In certain quarters, COMMERCIAL UNION WITH GREAT BRITAIN has been advoca'cd, which obliges uie to refer to that proposition. Commercial union with Great Britain has been suggested as an alternative to commercial union with the United Stiites. As far as I am con- cerned, T will f=ay of commercial union with Great Britain what I have said of commercial union with the United States. I do not believe tliat so far the question has been practically discussed. Certainly, if it were realizable and all our interests were pro- tected, I would accept a commercial treaty of that nature. It is permissible to suppose that this move- 25 ^M mM 886 t«i'Ei:cii ilik mcnt would be takon up hy all the countries which lit llie picHent day recognize the pupreniacy (iiciit iiritiiin. S( nie years ago, in ISS.j or 1S,S4, think. Mr. Uoulicr, oneofthe most eminent puhho ni( n oi France, said : At jiresent, the world's diuilih- rinin renlH no longer, as on the nast, on tlie Alps and the Pyrenees, hut on tlie two lieinispheics. What wa.^ true at that time in politics, is true to day in trade. The commerce ol' tlu; world, which was I'or- nitrly limited to the nations of Europe, now take.'' in the entire glohe. There is therefore room to sujijiose that all the nations recognizing the sovereignty of Great Britain, would agree to rally together hy mean.'^ of commcicial treaties. With this ohjet^t in view, delegates are now heing sent to Australia. What would he easier than to ojien up a traile with Australif;, than to have a commercial treaty with the Auf-tr;ili;in continent"' (ientlemen, 1 consider the idea as gootl and fair, ;'• such heing the case, I lielieve that it will eventu triumph. (ientlemen, there is an inlluity of other questions to which I would have liked to refer to-day, hut, on an occasion like tliis, it is impossible to review all the political points which merit the attention of the l»le of Canada. I can do no more at present than peoi touch lightly ujjon the difllculties, the solution of which seems to me to bo urgently called for. and which delay will, perhaps, NOT lUC.NnKU MOliK UEAI.I/.AUI.K l.ATKK. Nobody can view without alarm the present state of things in this country, the sullen discontent, the growing irritation, at the system under which we have been ruled for close upon twenty years, and I submit to my fellow-countrymen of every origin and race that it is high time to put an end to the policy which lias i)rovoked this irritation, which has no other aim than the triumph of a party, and which sacrifices the country's dearest interests to a parly triumph. [MM AT SOMKKSET IN 1SS7 ;js7 I 8Ul)init to Jill luv fclhjw-t'itizcuH that it \» tiiiiii to strive for the ('riliil)li!Jlmu'Mt of a polify wliicli will imiUe alltlu! inhuhitantrt ot'C'aiiada feel liappy to lio- loiig to thin country. I flul»init to my Icllow-cointry- iiieu that it is tiiiui to restore to the Maritime pr.iv- iiifOrf all their rights, that is t(t say, tlu'ir natural uiurket. I submit that it is time to fiive t(» the |iruv- ince of Mimitolia the exercise of all its privile^'es, and ihal it is time to ^ive to all the jjrovinees their ( om- l)k'te Icjrislalive autonomy, so that they may e.\i.-t in fact as they exist in law. In line, it is time to endeavor tn oljtain. if possible, tor iill the people of this country the most naturiil and at \\]v !-ame time; the most prolitable market. Now, I state in coneludin;,' as I stated in com- meneinj.; : T have faith in my country's institutions and 1 believe that, if tluiy were well administi-red, they would (uijxender a |)ros))erity. the like of which we have not yet known. For my jjart, 1 may say that as lonj,f iis I .-hall occupy a place in the confidence of my party, as loni^ as I shall Iill a .seat in the Lcffislature and as hmfr as, by word and examp F can [each this doctrine. I shall devote my political life to spreading amoii^- my fellow countrymen, THK I.oVK OK oru NATIONAI. IN.^TlTrTIONS. I know that the task is a great one. and that I dare not hope to carry it to a successful issue myself. Tin; most I can do is to trust that I may advance it a step — but at least the work is worthy of our eftorts. And for my part, when the hour for linal rest shall strike, and when my eyes shall close forever, T shall con.-ider, gentlemen, that my life has not been altogether wasted, if I shall have contributed to heal one patrio- tic wound in the heart even of a singleone of my fellow countrymen and to have thus promoted, even to the snuvllest extent, tlie cause of concord and harmony between the citizen.^ of the Dominion. ;*ii 1 ! : ,; 'J: 1 I ■ I ' 1 ■ ; ■ ■ I J • ' •■■).i I'' ■' ''^ 4? llQliiiiited Coiiifliercial Reciprocity WITH THE UNITED STATES IHE TORTURE OF TANTALUS AN IMMENSE, BUT INACCESSIBLE MARKET AT OUR DOORS THE PKOfiUAMMK OF THE CANADIAN LIBERAL PARTY In ISS>, all tlie qiieitionalile schemos oian Aincrico- Canailiau zulfercln ami of a coinmeroial or customs union liud given place to th(i idea ot a renewal of the reciiirocity treaty on the widest possiijle basis. The Liberal party in the Cana- dian Couunouf leil lor the lirst time by Mr. Laurier had adopted this policy as the loreniost i)lank in Us platl'orm. an i one of the Hnest dei)ates ever heard in the Canadian Parliament had been provoked by a motion of Sir Jiichard Cartwright, involving a profession of faith in favor of unlimited reciprocity and representing the urgent necessity of resuiaing negotiations with Washington in order to secure a complete I'eciprooity of customs' tarilfs. After his friends had j)iled up mountains of statistics, and arguments in su[)port of the party's theory, Mr. Laurier summed up the debate in the following speech, which deserves to figure iunong the finest pieces of national eloquence: Mr. Speaker, There is one feature which has univcr.salh' char- acterized this del)ate, in so far as it has been partici- i^%f ')? : ,'-i 390 SPEECH pated in by our colleagues on the other side of the House. Again on this occasion, aa on every other occasion, whether in the time of Reformers who have passed away or whether in the time of Reformers still living, the cause of reform has been met with the cry of disloyalty. It might be tempting to retaliate and to show what is the true inwardness of that exuberant loynlty which ever gushes forth from the other side of the House when facts or arguments are defieient to meet the case at issue. It might be tempting to retaliate and to show that THE I.OVAI.TV OF THOSE MONot'OI.ISTS who to-day clamor ihe loudest, has no other founda- tion except the selfish one that the contemiilated reform would put an end to a state of things, which, however lamentable it may be to the country, is eminently i)rofiiiible to some individuals. It miglit be (em)jting to show that loyalty has always been, is, and always will be the last refuge, the supreme argu- ment of those ingrained Tories who imagine them- selves born to rule, and who, having long been asso- ciated with government, cannot contemplate the dis- 2)lacement of what government means for them — pat- roiKige. olllce, subsidies and monopolies — without thinking such a displacement would be rank treason. On the other band. T have no reason to doubt the sincerity of those prophets of evil who, at every step taken forward by this young country, never fail t^ see an impending rupture of British connection, and whom a long series of sinister ]>redictions. hitherto not fuKiiled. has failed to make wiser or braver. Sir, T consider, it would be perfectly useless to attempt any argument upon those monojiolists or ingrained Tviries wboRe supreme end and oltject in politics is to enjoy the lleshpots of office and whose loyalty springs from the stomach, but to those well meaning though timid men who, inclined to a change, still dread change, I would at once say : You who object to reform because *::«■ m fii ■■ ' IN FAVOR OK RECirnOCITY 301 yoii i'eiiv the good remits will be accompanied by sonic evil re-jult — are you satisfied with the couditiou of this country, that notliin:^ is to lj'3 risked for its advancement? It is your opin-on that, if there be to the south of us accessible fields of wealth, we should be deterred from the ennoblinj^ 9i)irit of ente^'prise by the cowardly consideration that possibly increased prosperit}' would SEni'CK KUOM OI'R ALl.KfilANCE? Is yours the po-ition of the man who would star/e liimself to death lest ijy eating food he might swallow poison? Away, away, [say, with ignoble fears and cowardly considerations. I also api)eal to loyalty ; T appeal to the loyalty of all we owe to our origin, tn the blood that Hows in our veins, to the example (jf our ancestors and the memories they have left behind them, and he. T say, who will stand truest to those examples will also stand truest in his allegiance to Queen and country. Let us remember that the great nation from which the greater number among us derive their origin, and frosn which we have the insti- tutions on which we pride ourselves, is so great to-day because, at all periods of her history, her jjcople never shrank from perfornang the duty which the houi' demanded of them, without fear of the conseijuences to theniselvi^-! or to the country. Lei us rememl)er that our country, if it has attained the i)roud position hich to-dav AV lUU'C we claim it occupies, owes it to the ising eftorts of reformers of former days, whose evei'y effort 'vas assailed with the same taunt of dis- loyalty that meets us to-da.v Let us look at our position such as it is, let ..i look at our position scpiarely and manfully, and if the result is that our position to-day demands reform, let us, T say, strike for the reform, determined in advance that, if in this as in eve''y otluM' matter evil is to be mixed with good, it will l>e time to grapple with the evil when the evil arise-'. Once more, T say, let us look at our position, not such as it ought to be. m 592 SPEECH mm ■ II: BL'T SUCH AS IT IS not such as it is depicted in the s])cechcs of Minis- terial orators, but such as we liear it every day depicted in the unvarnished tall< of tlie iieoi)le. With a varied jind fertile soil, with a healthy northern climate, with immense agricultural resources, with abundant mineral weahh, with unsurpassed lumber facilities, with the most ])roductive fii-heries in the world— this ought to he aland of universal prosperity and contentment. What is the position to-day ? £ said a moment ago that we have good reason to bo proud of our country, proud of her pe(ti)lc, proud of her history, proud of her institutions, proud of tho position which e-he has already obtained among the nations of the world; but blind wfi'ild he l)e who wtmld fail to see that tliere is in her otlicrwise young and healthy l)ody a (]oo\> wound tbat is depleting tho very sources of life. Wlien we contem])late that this y(niug country with all her capalnlities is losing her population, that every day hundreds of her sons are leaving her shores to seek homes in a country not more favored l)y nature tlian our own. the concdusiou is inevitable that something is wrong wliich must engage the attention*of every one for whom patriotism is not a vain and empty word. Yet with these facts full in view the Ciovernment. speaking by the nu)utli of the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, invites Parlia- ment to declare that there is absolutely nothing to do but to keep on the i)olicy under which such a siate of things is possil/le; and we have seen memlier after member of Parliament rise in his place and declare indeed that there is notliing to do, that evei'ything is for the best. I will not lose one single moment in discu'^sing that point, but I place tlie assertions anide on tliis side of the House against those nnide by honorable gentlemen ()])po!-ite. and leave the decision to the judgment of the people of the country, in the judgment ol" all the people without exception, and all, with the exception, perhaps, of the monopolists, IX FAVOR OF UECIPROCITV Oi'o will say that there is something wrong in the condi- tion of this country, TIIA.T THERE IS S0>rETIIIX(; •which demands the attention of R.'-lianient and of every one wlio claims to he a patriot. We have Ijeeu told, and it is in^iisted on, tliat we are a prosperous country, that we are a happy country ; and one honui-- ahle inem))er. my lumoraljlc friend from Montreal Centre (Mr.Curran), if I rememher aright, in dwelling on the great j)rosperity of this country, stated we had no starvation amongst us. Well, Sir, prosperity is a relative term api)lied to nations as well iis to indivi- duals. A man in private life may have allluence with a certain income in a certain condition of life, and yet he in want with the same income in a certain other condition of life; and so it is anu)ng nations. If you judge us, if you gauge the condition of tliis country l)y the standard of older continents, I would he quite ready to admit that we nuiy he said to he a jirospcrous country. T grant this at once — and gentlemen op[io- site are welcome to the admi.^sion if they can lind any comfort in it. We luwe no starvation in this coun- try. We have not any threat of famine, we are not in the condition of China, in which country i'our prov- inces, some years ago. were carried away l)y hunger, and we are not in the condition of Ireland. We lose ouri)eo])le, l)ut still wc luive not lost one third of our population, as Ireland did, in the space of two years. But, Mr. S])eaker, the o1)jection and the answer do not meet the point, nor do tlicy meet the cluirge. To u young, healthy, energetic and nctive ])0[)ulation on this continent, it is not suilicient that they should he AlioVK STAUVATI )N. Their aiui is higher. The charge is not. Sir, tluit there ia a scarcity of natural productions, but the charge is, on the contrarv. that there is an abundance of natural l-,v^ it: • mM'-' :^ Il,::iillii 394 SPEECH ])ro(lnction3, but that there is no isfsue and no outlet for the surplu.s beyond what the peoide consume. Tlie charge is that nianufacturinjj; production is limited to our small and limited requirements, and, tiierefore, lar below the producing capacity of t)ie people. Sir, the people of this country have a right to e.Kpect that every child belonging to this country will, when ho come-i to manhood, find the sann; labor and returns for his labor, that he would (ind on the other ?ide of the line. The people of this country, especially the tillers of the soil, have a right to expect that their labor will always command the highest price ohtain- alile ill the best and most favored markets of the world. They have a right to exi)ect that the money which, by the necessities of their vocation, t)»ey are forced to invest in real estate will always retain Us value; and when they find that there is no lal)or for every child born in this country, when they find that their lat)Or is insulUciently remunerated, when they find that real estiite does not keep up its value, but decreases in value, when they find that notwith- standing idl attempts made we have not yet succeeded in having a ])opulation of 5.()00.0iX) of people, and when they find that at least 1,000,000 of Canadian born children are to-day citizens of the United Slates, or are working in the United State=!, I say. again, that they must come to the conclusion that there is some- thing wrong somewhere wdiich has to be remedied, I'uder such circumstances there is to-day a sentiment of irritation and di9con';ent which must he checked, or IT MAY HECO.MK VKUY SEIUOUS in a short time to come. We have l)een told l)y gentlemen on the other s^ide of the House that what we say to-day is not new. The honorable the .Min- ister of the Interior, speaking on that subject in answer t.» my friend from S )utli Oxf )rd (Sir Richard Cartwright). stated that the ^taiements made '^y my honoral)le friend were not new, and that they had IN KAVOR OP RECIPROCITY 395 lieen made in the elections of 1S8'2 and 18S7. Sir. it is perfectly true that those statiiUients are not new. They were made in ISS'i. and they were made in the elections of 1S87, and my honorable friend might fur- ther have added that they were made in the elections of 1878. lie might have added that he and his friends came into power because from 187(5 to 1878 they blamed the Ciovernmcnt of the day for theeiuigration which, I admit, v.-as then taidng ])lace. They l)lamed the Administration of my honoralde friend on my left and stated that if they came into power they would put a stoj) to this emigration, and when they came into power tliey were pledged by their own words and tluiir own writings to put a stop to that emigra- tion. Now, Sir, in order to make that point more clear, let me refresh the memories ol'gentlemen on the other side about their speeches anterior to 1878, and T cannot do better than to (juote the sjieech of my honorable friend, the leader of the (lovernment iind leaderofthe Opposition of th.at dfiy, delivered at I'arkdale. in the month of July, 1878. These are his very words : — Hero wo ;iro not only suHVrinu ^(^prcssioii in ovoi-y tivulf .and in'histrv, hnt our ijpopic are leaving tln' country to sook omiiloyinent in the niilfs anil niauulactoiics ol' the I'nited States.' An iioiiorable member: — Head that again. Mr. Laurier : — I will not read it again, but T will continue : — AVa.s it not a crying shanio that though this country had :i fertile soil, a healthy climate, a strong and well t>ducated ]ieo|)le, and good laws, "jOO.ODO ol'our own i)eoi)le .sliould have cro.'^sed our borders in those yeais and taken up their ahode. in tiu^ United States because they could not (iu'l eniploynient liere tor theii' skill and (Muui.'y an<I onterprise, in conseiinence of the (iilse jiolicy of our rulers. Sir. if it was a crying shame in 1S78, that oOO.lXH) of our fellow-men should have crossed our borders to '■'1 306 SPEECH . -n the otlier side of the line, })y what epithet strong enouy;h can we characterize THE POMCY OF THESE MES who, bound to put a stop 1o that sort of thing, and ' l)ound to stop tliat exodus, liavc l)rought it up from ")(»it.lJOt» to l,(i;)0,u:)(). I do not say this, Mr. Speaker, with any view of recrimination. I speak to say tliat the evil is one of long standing, wliich mu^t tax our energy and for which we must furl some remedy. T have said, .Mr. Speaker, that there is discontent [)re- vailing in this laad. Thecauie4are at once i))litical and economical. Tliere can bo no doubt at all that. in tlu! political aspet-t, a great deal of the di-ic;mteat whicli prevails is largely due to the manner in which Confederation was forced on some sections of the country, and to the manner in which Confe deration has l)cen made a tool and an instrument in the hands of gentlemen on the other side to embarrass and to harass some other sections of the country. There can be no doubt that in the eist of this Dominion the fact that one province at least was dragged into Con- federation iigainst her will, opened in the hearts of the people of that Province a wound which, after twenty years, is as galling as it was the (irst day. There can be no doubt at all that in the west the in- just, the unfair, and the tyrannical manner in which the Constitution has been aliused and viidate I by the Government, in order to force upon the people of that section of the country an abhorred monoi)oly. has created a bitterness in the hearts of those people whicli would have had the most fatal consequences, perhaps, if, fortunately, the Government, acting as they (lid yesterday in the matter of the admission of American importations upon the free list, had not in that other infctance also REVERSED THEIR POLICY and surrendered. There is no doulA at all that in IS FAVOR OF RECIPROCITY 397 ronj; the Province from which I come tlie numeroui^ attempts niiide by the Government upon the political auto- nomy of tlie jKovince have created distrust and dis- api)ointment in the minds of the ])eoj)le. And at the same time there can be no doubt, and we can readily believe it, that, if the country had been as ])ro'«perous as it is represented to be, a good deal of the difcontent which now i)revails would have Ix-en alleviated ; for political causes alone seldom produce serioub discontent, unless they aflect injuriously the economic condition of the peoj)le. If our countrv had bec'i as prosperous as it is represented to be. ff Nova Scotia had found in Confederation the prosper- ity which was promised to be her lot iu it, she Avould !onf; ago have been reconciled to Confedera- tion. }. Manitoba had continued to enjoy the pros- perity with which she opened her career, she would be to-day as cheerful a member of the Confederation as ."-he was ten years ago. But all our efrorts at increased prosperity have always been baflled. We never have had the measure of success which we expected from our efforts, and what is the reason ? The reason is that we have not yet found the econo- mical condition necessary to make the country as abundantly productive as it should be; that the con- suming power of the nation is no adetpiate to its pro- ducing power ; and that we have not yet found chan- nels' for the increased energy and activity of our jieo- ple. Under such conditions, when the labor of the peojde will never yield as much as it Avould yield under a diflferent economical condition, it is"^ im- impossible to expect that there will be content- ment in the land, or pride in the institutions of the country. The lumbermnn. the farmer and the manu- facturer toil, but their efforts are comparatively barren ; and if you ask them what is the economical condition they want in order to make their efforts as fruitful as they should be, they will tell you, that it is space, — 898 Hl'EECir 11 i'U J'. (J A BllOAUKU KIEI.I), in which to oi)t'i':ite. Tlio lisherniiin will tell yuu that il he could send his (ish free to Boston iuul Port- liunl, he would a^k n(jtliing more: the I'aruier will tell you that if he could nend his production.s to the cities and towns on the other side of the line, which are almost within arm's length, lie would ask nothing more; the lumlt(!rnian will toll you that if ho had access to that immense range of territory which needs the products of our forest, he would ask nothing more; and tho manufacturer will tell you— ti>e genuine nuinufacturer,not the monopolist — that all ho asks, is n fair field and no favor, and that if you remove the hiuriers which stand in his way, he is ready to com- ))ote with tlie Americans in their own market. During the last summer Mr. Butterworth, who is well known in this country, and who has taken the same view thai wo tiUvC as to the trade relations that should exist belween Canada and the United States, speak- ing on this question in Detroit, made a renjark which seenuid to me at the time to he singularly true histo- rically. He said this : Tho li'story of all nations has been a record of their efforts to broaden the area of their trade and commerce. The more we think of this remark, the more we shall be convinced that it is eminently true. Indeed, the records of mankind show that, as soon as a nation has obtained its freedom, the energy of the people, Avhich had hitherto been consumed in political agita- tion, is at once turned to labor and industry. Very soon the producing power of the people exceeds their consuming power, NEW CHANNELS HAVE TO BE SOfGHT, and from that time the history of that nation becomes a record of efforts to broaden the area of trade and commerce. Such was the history of the Italian republics in the middle ages, after they obtained their freedom. They gradually extended their trade beyond IN lAVdU <il' KKCII'IMM ITY ;ji)9 the walls of their cities until it covered all the hauls washed liy the Mediterranean and the neighhoriiifj; heaiJ. Such was the history ol' Holland in the .«eveii- teenth century, Alter ehe had freed lier neck from the yoke ()fS[)ain, althouj^h having a iiopulatiim of only 2.U()(),()U0, .she gradually developed the largest trade of the age. Such was the case with England. For many years the English penple were ahsorhcd in political agitation, and during those yeais their trade did not increase; hut having at lastcurlicd the power (if tlie Throne, as.-erted the suprcniacy of Parliament, and secured her ijolitieal freedom, from that time the history n|' lOngland lieeame a record of the lir(ailening activity and energy of the IJritish jjeople. The trade of England increa^ed its area until it suhdued conti- nent after continent, and to-day it has no limits I.ul the limits of the earth. The history of other nations has been our history. For years and years our people Avere ahsorhed in a political agitation for freedom, and during those years the country made Imt little ])rogress; hut when at last we ohtaincd responsiMe governnient and legislative inde])endence, what took place el.'-ewhere hapi)ened here. The energy of the people, which had been previously absorlieil in fruit- less political agitation, was turned to toil and labor, and from that moment we had to .seek for channels and outlets for our surplus energy. The forest, the mine and the sea are the fields to which the labor of ou r peojde has been directed. Ours is AROVK ALL AN AORH'II.TIHAI. corNTHV; and, as we have abundance of lands at our disiiosal, vast tracts have been every year added to the culti- vated soil; and, as the number of the tillers of the soil increased and the bulk of their productions became enlarged, there arose correspondingly a demand for new channels and outlets, and from that moment the history cd' this country became a history of efforts to broaden the area of our trade and commerce. If there ■':''t;;u H SPEECH 400 is ono fact which moro thun nny uthor has »:liiiriU'ter- i/ed ('iiniuliun politics since the concession ufrcspon- sihhi f^overnmetit, it is that it liiis iilwiiys been tlio ofTorts of the Cuniuliiin people to find ntnv outlets Jind channels for their incroasinff enerj^y. I do not mean to sav that those efforts have boon systematic or pre- meditated. On the contrary, they have been irregular and spasmodic, now in one direction and then in another, l)ut they have been a continual and instinc- tive aspiration t(t pass from an unnatural to a naturnl economical position, just as a man who (inds hituself in a vitiated atmosphoro will turn in every direction to get a breath of the fresh air without which ho cannot live. As soon as the agitation for responsible government had abated, as soon as our friends, the Tories — who, loyal in those days as they are in these day-*, endeavored by riot, bloodshed and fire to inti- midate TiOrd Elgin and prevent the establishment of the regime — had been forced to submit to the inevi- table, the first act of the Government of the day— and it was A T.inEKAI, GOVEKNMENT — was to seek new channel? for the ])roductive energies of the people. The (Jovernment found the natural c'nanncls of trade blocked and closed. There was to the south of us a great and progressive nation of kindred birth, from which we were separated by mountains of prejudice and some artificial barriers; and the eiTorts of the (iovernment were directed to removing some of the barriers, and the result was the reciprocity treaty of ISol, which although limited in its operatii n and scope, everyone will adm"' period of its duration marked the golden nr trade and commerce. That was our ii t wards broadening the area of our trad e. It Avas eminently successful. PIowi . ilie ty was of short duration. As soon as i limit >l its term was reached, the American Govornnuin gave IN KAVoH ol UKririiiM ITY 401 notices tliiit they would not coiitiiiiK' it. Why ? W'm it l)ec;iiH(( tli«' treaty wns not cijuiilly advaiit.i^foiH to tlic Aiiicrican.s? No; it is adiuiltod tliat tlic treaty \va.-> just as adviiiitaf^couR to tlif-iu as to us. TIkmid- ti<;«' was ^ivfu siiuply on ai'count of the irritaliou caused in tiie Tuiled Stat(H l»y the unl'iit'iidly atti- tude luaintiiiiied hy Kiij^land and Canada toward.^ tlie Uaited State.s during theii' <;ieat, Htruji^^di; for national lilc. That tin' repeal ol'the treaty wa.s a Mow to our commerce, no one has denied, and it has heen the constant and nnvaryinji efTorl of ( 'anadian sta- te-!m(!n ever since to ol)l;i,in a renewal of that treaty. Tnileed, so much is liiat the case that, at a later day, when protection was adopted as the policy ofthi.s country, one of the n>asons for its adoption was that thereliy w(,' nnjj;ht KOIiCK TUK AMKIUCANS to ^ive us rt^cij)rocity. The resolution that formu- lated the i»olicy of the (lovernnient upon thai occa- sion has often heen quoted, but it will hear hein;^ (juottMl a^ain. because it is pi'CL^nant with meaninu' in the face of the amendment ol the (lovernment on the present occasion. The resolution is as foUow.s : — That this House is of opinion th.it tlie wolfiire of Ciurula ri'<|uirt's tlio a(l()|iLioii of a niitiotinl |ioiicy, wliicli, l>y ii juilicious i'i>!iiljiistiuent of the tarilf, will hcntMit, fin 1 lostor the agiioiil- tural, tlie minMi.L', tli(> iniinufactiuiiig and other interests of the Doiiiiiiioii ; that such a iioliey will retain in Canaiia tliniis- Hiids o! i>ur fellow euiaitryiaei) noiv olili^fe 1 to i^xpatiiate themselves In search of the eiiiidoy nient deniel theiii at horue. How far that |)olicy has boon successful we all know, l)ut no douht honorable gentlemen opposite will say it has been in that respect eminently suc- cessful. Mr. Landerkin ; — It only sent a million away. 26 '■fA -, 402 f-PEECII ■ 1 '\ ' li'.i is Mr. Laurier : — The resolution goes on as tbl- .lows : Thiit it will restore prosperity to our stru.L'gling industries, HOW so sadly ilepresscil, will prevent Canada from hei/ig made a sacritice market, will encoiuage and develop an active inttr- jirovineial trade, and moving — as it ought to do — in the diree- tion of a recij)rocity of tariils with our neighbors, so far as the varied inteiests of Canada may demand, will greatly tend to piocure lor this country eventually a reciprocity of trade. Now, if I give an unfair const-uction to the words of my honorable friend, I will ask him to correct me in due time, but if word? have any meaning, what was the meaning of the concluding ])aragraph of tliis resolution? Did it mean anvthing else but that, liowever desirable protection might be Ibr Canada against other countries, reciprocity, so far as the I'nited States were concerned. •i'l WAS THt; THING WHICH was desired and desirable? Now, Sir, in view of this resolution, I say that the amendment moved Ijy the Government is not logical. What is the object of that amendment ? Its object is to keep the national policy intact in its entirety. The i'lnal object of the national pidicy, as declared in tiie resolution I have just read. w;is to ol)tain reciprocity. It is evident tliat in this object it has not succeeded, and, therefore, the conclusion is unavoidable that something else must be tried. So ended our first ciTort to broaden the area of our trade and commerce. Jkit that time we had something in contemplation. When notice was given of the abro- gation of the treaty, the country was engaged in the discussion of the great (juestion which ended in the Confederation of the Provinces, and there is no doubt whatever that in the minds of those who participated in the liringing about of that great event, the hope exi.sted that Confederation would prove, not only a great political reform. 1>ut a great econoi" 'cal reform IN I'AVOU OK RF.ClI>UOt'ITY 403 as well. It was urged on the floor of Parliament at that time that the provinces, by adopting among themselves free trade, would find an adequate outlet and channel for their surplus energy. The honorable Cieorge Brown, who was at that time a member of the Coalition (Jovernnjent. enlarged upon tliat idea at great length and with great force. After having .stated in the debate that THE FIRST OB.IECT OF CONFEDERATION Avas to effect a great political reform, he went on to say : ...But seeoudly, I go lieui'tily for the Union, because it will tiirow down the harriers oi trade and give us the control of a market of 1,(H)(),()0I) people. What one thing has eoutri- huted so much tu the wondrous material progress of tlie United .States as the tree passage of their products i'rom one .State to another? What has tended so much to the rapi(i advance of all hranclies of their industry as the vast extent of their J>oine niaiket, creating an unlr.iited demand lor all the commodities of daily use, and stimulating the energy and ingenuity of producers ? Sir, I confess to you that in my mind this one view ot the Union — the addition of nearly a midiou of ])eople to our home e^onsumei's — sw(^eps aside all the petty olt;ecti<ins that are averred against the scheme. What, in comparisnn with this grfat gain to our farmers and manufac- turers, are even the iallaoious money ohjeetions which tlu^ imaginations of honorable gentlemen opposite have summoned up? All over the w'orld we lind nations eagm'ly longing to extend their ilomains, spendnig large sums and waging pro- tracttnl wars to possess tliemselves of more territory, uniilled and uninhabited. < ither countries olfer large inducements to I'oreignei's to emigrate to tln'ir shores — free passages, free hnids, and i'ree food and imiili'inciits to start tiiem in the world. We, ourselve-, support costly estalilishments t<j attr;ict immigrants to our country, and are satisHed when our annual outlay brings us l.'),(li)i) or 120,000 souls. But here. Sir, is a proposal which is to add in one day nearly a million of souls to our population — to add valuabl-' territories to our domain, and secuie to us :dl the ad\' uitiiges of a large and proHtaide commerce, now existing. Ml 'J-'- 404 SPEECH }•» Now, evoryliody will admit that every word spoken here was perfectly true, that not one iota can be taken out of this passage as containing a single error. Still, the theory here advocated did not suc- ceed, and it failed not because of any error that could be pointed at, but because of other circuiuatances which were overlooked at the time. I have cjuoted this in order to show that as far back as ISGo, one of the master-minds, which the country has produced, was of opinion that it was easynlial to tlie trade of the country that we should add to the cnnsuniin^ power of our population. The Siune idea was enlar<i,'ed upon by Mr, tialt in the same debate, and ho stated, with all the authority which at that time attached to his liiinie as Minister of F'inance, that in Conl'cderation be expected to lind m m -^1 ^;' A SUB.STITUTK KOli THE AMEIUCAN .\IA1!KET, which we lost bv the abrogation of tiie Reciprocity Treaty lie said: ...H We leijiiiro to liml !in e.xiimiile of tlw hnnefits of i'voo ooiiinieiciul intcn-oursi.', we need pot loi)k lieyoml the ffl'ects tliiit have IoUowimI tVoiii the woiliiiig o) the i;eoi|iincily 'l"i(>utv witli the l"ni:c(l .'^tates. hi one short year IVom the time wiien that treaty came into operation, oio' trade in tlie natural produetions of the two cDtnitries swelled from le.ss than ^_ViOiV'0(i to upwards or.^lOjUi '0,000 pei nnnnni, and now when we are thrciitened with an interriii>tion of that tr.'ule — ^\■hell we have reason to fcai' that tln' ,'ietinn of the I'nited States will pi \-e hostile to the oontiiiuinice offree eommercial relations with this coinitry, when we know that the oon.^idpi'- .'itior. of this ipiestion is not grounded on just views of the matt-rial advantages resulting to each country — hut that the irritation connected with political events exercises a ]'redo- minant inl!u(nice over the niind.'r ofAuiorican stalesmen, it is the duty of the House to pioviile, if possihle, Other outlets foi- <iur laoiluciions. If wi^iavo reason to fear that onc» dooi' is about to he closed to our trade, it is the duty of the House to endeavor to open another to provide against a coming evil of ;.[-,^ IX 1 A Volt OF REC'IPROrlTY ■10.-) tliu kind f't'iircd. liy timely expansion in .-inotlier ilirection ; to scH'k ijy i'l'e tr^idi' with our own Icllowcoiopists ii)i' a c.inti- inieil auil iiniiiti-nii|iti'i| (■oiiim<Tcc. wliicli will not he liiiblo to be ili>tinl)fil ;it the cMpricioiw will ol' ;iny torcigii (.•ountry. FFerc, auaiii, thvM'<' i.s nothing to say ag^ainst th(f tlicory tliiit was tluMi advanced, hut tliKi ^rtvit oxjict - tations which v.wc tiica enleitainetl did not turn out to hf tnu^ Althouii'h every (iovernnient since that time ha.s endeavored to lirin;^- toj^elhcr the ea:»t ann west of (Confederation, to hriuu' alxiut tin; interchange of tlie conmoditie-i of tlie cast with tliosc of the wesi, to-day we iuive not succeeded in (hn'eloping any ti'iiue except a very insiuniiicant one; hetween tlie easi and tiie west, and th(! ghiwiug ])ictures whicli the men o.' ISf") drew as to what was to follow tlio'v endeavo' •: to hring aljout that intercliange of trade, liavo remained i>ictures. What was it tluit was left out, what was it tluit v as (nultted from their ealcn'-i- tions? The fact whicli was omitted wa3, as has oilen h( en pointed out since, the geographical i)ositio!i of the ditfc eiit provinces of the l)oinini<m. The men <j.' 1S()5 un-got that no legislative act, no executive decree, corij) srri'iv'Kss iiik i.o.nc; |)|>ta.\cks which separate the ea^it from the we-t ; they torgot that npture had interposed against i)ro(ital)le trad-i i('lati<nis Ijetwi'cn tiic east and the west ohstacles which no legislation could ovensome. Sir, expei'ienci' is the test ulall theiuy, ami, in the view of the expe- rience wiiich we have acquired during the last twenty yea; i, let me show how ihiluded the men of 18(1") wer(! in regard to the hopes which they then entertained. Mr. .Mc(iee sp )ke in the same dchate, and lie (>mplia- sized.'ie same 'dea which had heen already expres- sed hy Mr. Ih'owii and Mr. (iait.and he [)articulaii/.ed his meaning hy instaueing a particular trach'. the coal trade of Xova Scotia. After having deiiicted, m%\ l*i?«: ;i. H w^;.A 4:1 •■n W^:'^. k.. Pi) 40a SPEECH in liis glowing language, tlie coal fiekl3 of Nova Scotia,. lie went on to say : Tlioso rxliaustlosB co.'il fields will undfr tliii pl;iu — wliloli is ill tact our reciprocity treaty witli tiie lower provinces — become, hereafter, the great resonnre of our towns for luel. I sec tiie cry is I'aised helow liy the anti-Unionists that to pr^j- cee^t with Ooiil'eilenitiou would be to entail the loss of the Xcw England market for tln'ir coals. I do not unite sih^ how they 111 ike that out, hut even an aiitid'nionist might see that tiie population of (,'ana!a is within a friction of that of all New England put togetlie!",that we consum * in this country as much fuel per annum as they do in all New England ; and, therefore, that we oiler them a market un ItM' the Union eijiial to that winch these theorizors want to persuade their iollowers they would lose. There in not u word to lie taken I'roin tlial pas- sage. Tl i.s (luite true- tliat the poptihition of Canada wa.s a? great as the iiopulalion of all Now l-]nghuiii put together, and that Canada consumed as niu( li I'uel as tlie wliole of New Knj.rland put together. Iiut ]\Ir. Mciice had overlooked the fact tiiat the market of New Kngland was at the doors of Nova Hcutia. and that the market of western Canada was too fur away to lie of any service to Nova Scotia coal ; and if tiio valualile life of Mr. McCee had been spared ho would have lived to see Nova Scotia coal jtrotected hy a duty of at least oO per cent, on the [iiice of that coal at the pit's mouth, carried from the east to tlie west, carried on Government railways, not at trade rates, hut at favored rates, in fact at a loss, and ho would lave seen that NOT ONE I.fMP <)V COAI. from Nova Scotia over reached TortuUo. "\\'e have been tohl we havedevolojied an inter-provinoial traile lietwoen the cast and the west. I deny it. I deny that we liave s : ceeded in developing trade Iiolwoen tl 10 cast and tli( AC St. W o (>arrv a small amount of i: ' _ l * l !* iiy.jji. i ji!=^'^iju» a IN FAVOR 01' KKCirUOClTV 407 morcimndise l»et\veen the two sections, but is tluu the result of Coni'oderation, is it the result of the Union?' It is not. What trade we have l)etweon the east and the west is not a natural trade, but is due entirely to the I'act that the country has to pay for the freight roiiuired to take it lietween the east and the west. Yt)U cannot legislate against nature, ami nature has interi)osed obstacles in regard to the interchange of trade between the east and the west which no legisla- tion can overconr^ ; an I, as year has followed year, it became more and more evident that the anticipa- tions formed l)y the men of ISOo were mere delusions, thnt there could never beany profitable trade between Xuva Scotia, New JJrunswick and Prince Edward Island on the one side, and the i)rovince3 beyond Quel)ee on the other. Then "it was. seeing that our etforts bad been l)anied, ."ooing that tlic channels were not opened for trai.le which we had expected, that for the first time protection became a i)raotical issue in this country. The advocates of the new idea, fondly hoped and, indeed, resolutely asserted that the i)romulgation of a high tariff would stimulate the creation of so many manufactories, that it wnuld bring in a large amount of immigration and would stop our enngration, tiiat we would (iiid tlie markets here that we had hojied to obtain elsewhere. And al- though during the agitation which took pla(!e in b'^77 and 1^78, all classes were {iromised that thov would profit by the adoption of pri)tection, the farmers were the class who were promised the greatest benefit. In- deed, the National Polii'y then w;is made to do duty all round, like TiiK <Ei.Enr;ATi:r) aiaiuc noTTi.E in t!io hau(ls of tli beer or soirits or i ju!.''gler. which supplied wine or iter, just as the man to be served was a wine oi- l)cer man. a whiskey nian. or a cold water man. So tlif farmers wore toM that. if we had pro- iud a market for their product.s tection. thev won 1 I 408 f^rKECH H'.t 1 1; I'ii;, f' s r, :ji' '»;■' :, Vii . ■J ■ '«^;l:; • ft-'Mi' It? i ■•> ^ { }it their doors. Tlu! lender of the Opijosilion at that time-, ill the Hpeech wliich ho made at i'tirivdale in July, I'STS, i^a,id :— . ' r.v liiivin;: ;i!l l<!iiils (if in'lustrii.-s \ve wduM li;ni> ;i ;^ii'at cotiiUry : the inilustiMi>:i wouM lie twifc blcssi'd, our son-, would III- iiiwiiiti' I tVom ;-'oiii,L' t(j ii lbii'ii.'ti cinititiy to add to it.s wealth and strength and slsill. Tlie IVuits ul their lahm- woulil lie exchang(Hl for l\n'. traits of the soil, cities wouhl inultiiily, iind not oi.ly would there he a rleniand lor tlie huircr j)rodiiits, such ii< wheat, lloui', cattle, and everything >,ve < uuld laise. hut lor eiicese, hutter. e.'iirs, roots and other kinds of t^mall ]iroiluce. Why was it thuf land aroinid villa!;<'s was mure valuable thati land away IVoui the villat;es, land ai'out tnwns more valuaMe than land in villages, and land ahout t;itl(\s more valuable than land in towns? band about 'I'oronto was not .-o good, I'rom an a_!.'riiniltural {)oinl of view, as it was .Jij ny 40 miles away fiom the city, and yet it was i.,)re valuable. Tlie reason was because the faiiuers living near Toronto eoidd gi>t a marki t for e\'(!rylliing they eouKl raise. They wer(> not obliged to send it. iiway to a distance. The nearer the faiiner was to the niarket t)ii' ••1|..,;jkm' it was for him to send in liis goods, anil that dngle illustration would siitlice to shou' how (leiientlent the worksiu-n, uiiinufaciiner and fa.iner weic ujiou each other. Til .so far as this lan:rnn^e tench^d to prove (hat the a(U)[)tiou ot' protection woiihl devehip a hir;.!;e ma- nufacturing; iiidustrj' it was a fallacy. luU, in so far a.s the lionoralde g,erflcnien meant to say that a lar<r(! hihorin<i population is the hest market fur the aj;ri- culturtil chisse.s, I agree with him. l'-ne;hind to-(ia,y not only ahsorhs all lier own atiricultural products, hut drains the agriculture of many other countries liesides. New Englamt is very niuidi in the sann; po- sition. Tt not only consumes its own agricultural ]troduotions. hut it alisoihs those ul' many t)tlier States, and it even DilAW.S r.AUOKl.V FUOM iA.\Al).\, although the Canadian farmer has to pay :t toll on IX lAVOlt (»!■• KKrllUOL'ITV •Jill) tlie frontier, liut llic prediction of the iionor;il)lo gentlemen (lid not come true. Tiie country \v;m not overrun witli tlie nmnuiacturinii; cImss. Tlieie wnn no f^reat increnfe in iinnii^ratinn. J']niijj,vati<in waw not stopped. Many <lreanis were disi»elled, many ilreanis turned nut to lie mere dece[)tionn, for it is a juatter of fact that many of the principal advoj'utos of protection wiio prophecied iliose great renult.s were the victims of tlieir own pr(>achinu'. In tlieir ^reat a.ii.\ietv foi' the .■•uc(!0.-*:^ of thi^ new i(hM. tiiev h,id repre- sented the counlrv a- heii \\X overiiiii hv niaiiuiactwrc with ma^'nilicent huildin^s ami lall ciiimncy,^ tiu'ow- in^r toward'^ the .sky llie f<m(ikc of modt-n' nidusfy. They had represented cities and town.s irrmvii 'j- oi;t of the c'round, ami teeminj' with arti>>an~ who wouhl consume evervthim: the farmer (• .uld I ow. hut th'^'>(; expfHttations did not come out (rue, and here aL;\nn tlie.'e was a failure. W'liat was the can rH\ \y IV was it that the great expectations which weve entertained of the I'uture (.»f the National Policy, were noi real- ized ? liecau^e the agitators of l'^77-7S comj)hjtely h)St piu'ht of t lie fact that MoDKKN l.NDr-l'lilKS (A.NNoT TUIMN'K in linnted markets. >rodern industrv in cirder to thriv<! mu-t operate in large markets. T lie il'IlKMDle of modern industry is this: fo miniiiiize to an iniini- tesimal ligure tlie ))rofit upon manui'acture 1 articles, inu then to increase the a lie iirodu<;tion to tinlimiteil (juantity : in fact the profit U[)on the single ir'tiele is always decreased in proportion as rho aggre- ata ])r(.)(Hu lion is increase 1. Ind er ;uih circum- stances no one can manufacture to advantage unless lie manufactures in large ([Uantities. and he who can manui'a<'ture in Ihe larucst marki't is alw.ivs the cheape-t manufacturer , an rl at tl le same time t he man who can reduce the cost of ])rodiu:tion liy ever so small an amount, will always drive Ids (Mi!upetit(n'3 from the field, and w ill overco.ue all the harriers m ' m I I «u ! IS 410 SPKECII opposed to liiiii. Tliiit is the reason why tlie Xatiomil policy (lid not Huceeed, ttiiit i^ tho reason why the niiuuit'juturcrs did not mulliply. Why, Sir, our manufiicturc.-i, hurchnied as thoy are hy the taritT, burdened on their coal, l)urdoned on their raw mate- rial, cannot extend abroad liecause th(\v cannot meet the products of free trade countrie-". They are limited to their own market, and within our own market, with a population of less than r),0(.)0,Oni ), they cannot expand ami tliercjfore they (umnot thrive. Take tho siiigli' article of cotton. Tt was expected that under the favoi' of th(! tariff all th(! great water powers from Kin^-ston to Montreal wouhl he lined with colion mills, that we would have Iclmous oI" cotton s[iinners and cotton weavers. Yet 'o-day. Sir, we have only twenty-three cotton mills, with an aggregate of '>'A~ ,- OSS spindles. These figures may seem large at first blush, but they are in reality insignilicant. In the year 1S71, Kiiglaml alone had over l.'"2,(XHJ cottt)n mills and ;') LOiKi.ooi) spindles ; and at this very moment, in the little town of Carditf. Wales, one single com- pany is erecting thirteen mills with a capacity of more than n")t).()(l() spindles. Therefore our figures are per- fectlv insiu-nificant ; our twentv-tliree cotton mills and (i(.«t,<'ii;i() spindles are A MKIU-: DROP IN T[IK (HF.AN. r>ut, Sir. the manufacturers of cotton started out for an immense output ; they found t'lemselves very soon with an immense sur[ilu3 which they could not dispose o|'. and under such circumstances, what did they do'! They combined, they agreed to reduce the production, they reductMl the working hours, they dismissed their em])loyet\s. and reduced production simply to the requirements of the country ; and, U[)OU the capital wliicli had been invested, they agreed to pocket liie large projits which the tai'itl' gave them over foi'(>ign conipeiitors. Yet, as T understand, those profits upon the large capital invested are not large. mm IN FAVOU OF KECIPROCITV 411 Altliouji'li wo have only twenty-tliroo mills and (lOO.DOO HpindlcH, yet tlie.se are too much lor the reiiiurements of the country. Not one ofthe^e mills is worlnnj,' to its full capacity to-day ; they are all workinc; on half time, or at least, not on full time. What is tru(? of cotton is also true of woollens and other industries of the country, so the conclusion is inevitahle that the National Policy has not realized the expectations wiiich were entertained at the time. The National Policy has not developed ii fjreat national industry, and has not created IIk; home umrkcl for our aiiricul- tural products, as we were promised, itul. Sir. the necessity of wideninjj; the area of our trade and cdwi- merce is so grciit that all these many years we have heen lodkin^^ ju'ound in (his direction and in the other direction to tind new outlets and new channels for our trade. Tn the dehate on the Addre-s durini;' the present SessidU, the mover of tin? Address ti>ld us M'ith pride that the (iovernment had sent a commis- sioner to Australia in order to obtain tin; trade of tliat, country; he told us that thej* had opened communi- cation witti tlie Arji'cntine Repuldic in order to esta- blish a trade with that country. Wh.'it will come of these effi>rts ? What has come ol' all similar efforts? Whdt has come of our sendinu' commissioners to l^razil, to the West Indies, and to Spain? Nothing;', for the very olivious reason that, l)nrdened as we are by our iirotcctive tariff, WK CA.XNOT .MKK'I' !'I;I:K .\I'K. KNOl.ANJJ in those markets; so tlint the cunclusinii is inevitable that all the efforts we have made so far to devel P our trade and commerce, and to broaden their area, since 1S(J7, have been a succession of failur(^s. What, then, is to be done? Ts the pr(d)lem without solu- tion? Is the situation without hope? Is there nothinLi; to lie done but to fold our arm^ and to wait, and t 1 wait, and to wait until sonietliin;j: unforeseen and unexpected turns ui-. that will, perhaps, do for us m "ml '.in. %\ m w ''^ it ■ •■ l,i-. lil-' 41S SPEECH Avliiit we have, fiiiled to do for ourrfolvos? No, thoio is n. (Mtursc o|)('ii to u^. iiiid it is to revert to tiio only iik'uh;^ wiiicli. in tiie \kiM, have not fuilcd — it is to adopt till! rcHtdution of my lioiiovaUlu iViciid to my 1(^11 (Sir llichard C'iirt\vri,u:hl ), it is to o[)('n as uido us we ciin iUl tlie avenues of trade hetween us and tlio (;o,( 101 1,01) oi' |M'ii|»k' to the south of u^. Ami liere aii.iin let us recall the laiiii'uaiic of Mr. Brown. lie ex|>ecte(l the greatest iiossii)le results iVoni the arcession of 1, 01)11, 0(l!» Houls to our iii'.irket. Here are his words: Hut lii'r(>, ,'Sir, IS ;i iiropnsal wliicli is to luM not only iiiviriy ii iiiiliioii ot'smils to oiu' i))|iiiliitioii, l)(it to all v;iliiiil)li' tern- tni'v to II ir ind secure to us all till' a IvitlUa-'i's ol' :l lai-. iii'( jii'Dlitaiile ciiiniu'r. now I'.Kistmir. "im m'. ■'»,'* Sir, these expectations would have lie,:'n reii,!i-:ed if naairal ohstatdes had not interposed. P>ut what wo e\peot to-day front thcs ro-;olution of my honora- ble fri(Mid, is not only the access of 1,000, 000 souls ti> (Uir market, it is ■nil': .\(>Ks<ro.\ o K (;o ooo.ooo of the nn)st wealthy people on the face oftlie^'obc, with riot even a molehill to separate us. \\'t the <! ov- erjiment will not accede to our proposition. The (.iovernment have no objecition to sead conimissit)aers to theanlipodes, but they will not send conimissioner-s to Washington. They have no ohjecition to oi)en com- munication with the Argentine UepubMc and its o.- 01 1,000 of souls. but they will not open cominuni;ation with the great nation to the south of us wliose trade is a thousand fold the trmb^of the Argentine republic. Jbil they have llu-ir reasons I'or it. They ilo not act on mere caprice. Tliey have thiiir reasons ; they have a standing offer upon the statutedxmk that they are ready to ojjcn our market, to a certain exteitt, to lh(! United. States if that country will open its market to us to the same extent. Beyond that they "391 IN I'AVOK OK UKCII'Roi ITY ii;5 will 111)1 .ii<i, tlioy f-tiind up<iii (Itcir dif^Miity imd tlicv will not l)U(l{,fo an inch. The (ifTcr which i^ niatlc hy the Ci(jvernnient to the rnitcfl States is an ofTor (tt a limited charactor. in natural iiroducts only. It i.s not what wi' ask I'or. It in not an otrcr of unlimited trade, such as is asked I'or hy my honorai»le iViend to my loll. My honorable friend has proved, at least to th(> satisfaction of everyone who will t;ike a calm view of the matter, that uidimited reciprocity is pre- l'eral)le to limited rci'ijirocity. Now, if thetiovern- ment had pecured the limited reciprocity which they have nfTcced to the American (Jovernment. wewnuld have l>(,'en jj;lad to acc(>pt it. anil the Ciovernmenl wniild have heen entitled to the thanks of the country. Mut the (iovernment have faileil in their efTorts. That standin}:^ olfer has Ijeen on the Statute-hook for nine yenTvS now and the Americans have not yet cho.sen to bite at the bait ; but it is not a bait, that is an im- proper expres.sion, IT WA.- A TMliKAT. It was intendcMl as a threat to tin; American (iovern- ment to see what evil consecjuences mijrht fall if they refused to ojien their doors to us. The bait or throat, whatever it is. however, has been ineircctual. and we must try something else. Now. limited reciprocity may Ije looked U]nm as an impossible thing. I have not heard one single voice raised on the other side of tlie line in favor of limited reciprocity, while eminent statesmen, memberp of Congress. inlluential merchants, boaids of trade, have again and again pronounced emphatically in favor of unlimited reciprocity, and to-day there are before Congress two measures in that direction. This sentiment, which is evinced by the ])r(ipositions before Congress, is not of ye-iter<lay. It dates as far back as lS(il. In that year the IJoard of Trade in the city of New York iJCtitioned Congress in favor of an enlargement of the Reciprocity Treaty ■which existed at that time. That petition to Congress •m'^ m hW. W<' M 411 SPICKCM wiiH iu'lcil Upon, fn ISC. I, Coiif^M'o^s <'oii>ji(l(;r<'(l ji I'osolutioii from th(! (.'ominittet! (mi (Idiuhkiium' in I'iivor of an (!xt(!iisiini 111" tli(! trcMty iviul ii wideninj^ of its ])roviHionH. That rt'-iolutinii wiis passed in Murcli. ISC. I ; it was laid over till Di-cemhcr of (lull year, hut notliiii'4 caiiic of it, I iim sorry to nay. And why? Ilocausi' of the Invents which took plactMii the year 1SC)1, hccauso ol' the unfriendly attitude maintained hy lOnj^land and hy Canada towards the United States in the j^reat .strupfjlo in whieh tliey were en;,'ui;ed at that tini(!. The Aluliania cruiser, filled out in tlie i)ort of fiiverpool, the .St. Albans' raid, prepared in Mont- real, so far KMIUTTHUEI) AMKUICAX ITr.I.IC oPIXION tn-^>^ :nt. that it would not allow that resolution to he carried any further; l.ut of the sentiments whieh were enter- tained at that time by the Administration ol' Mr. Jiincoln we can ol)tain an idea by a letter wliieh wa.s written by Mr. Adams, wlio was at that time Minister to the Court of St. -Tames', and which was addressed to Lord John Russell. It was dated November, KSd I, and it said this : Till' wciraro and [.rosperity of the nci^ilihoiiiii,' Biitish Proviiu'os are a.s sinciTcly tli'siiocl on our part as they can I.e by Groat Britain. In a practical sense Uicy are sources of wealth and inlluence for iIk; oik? country only in a less degree tli.aii I'or tiie otiier. tlioufrii thej'urisdic'tioii ai.i.ertaiii only to tlie latter. Tiiat this is IIks sinocro conviction of uiy (rovern- nient has I.een proved by its consent to entd^' into relations of reciprocal free trade coninun'cc with them almost as inti- mate as tliose which prevail betweeji the several States of tiic Union themselves. Tims far the ilis[)Osition has been to remain content with tliose relations under any and all circumstances, and that disposition will doubtless continue, j.rovided always that the amity be recii)roc!i.ted, anil that tlie peace and har- mony on the border, indispensable to its existence, be lirinly secureil. Those were the sentiments of the Admini.-.tratiou • ''!/ lilt:*: i.r,! IN I'AVOll UK KKrII'UdilTV 415 ol' Mr. Liiu'olii ill I'-Cl, iind tlicv aro the Pcnliinciitfl of the Adiuinistrutidii of I'rt'-idcut Clcvclniitl in ISSS. Of tlio sentiiiuMits of the Adiuiiiistnitidii of Mr. Cifvo- laiul upon tills matter \v(( liavf ain|»h' cviiiencr in tlic ftiiropiintlcnce fxrhanj^i'd Ix'twccii Mr. I>ayard and Sir Clijirio.-i Tupitt'V. In tlie letter addreHscil Ity Mr. JJayanl to Sir ("liarle.s (altiioimli tliat letter has often heen ijuoted. I (|Uotc; it aj^ain heeause it .^Jeeins to nic? jirej^rant with meaning')* '^'i'- Hayard, after havin;,' ulluded to the necessity of settling the disputes aris- in^f out of the li,-heries (iiiestion, proposed u s( ttleinent in this manner : , I am ('(mli'lciit \vv hntli seek to attain a just ainl pei'iiia- iiciit settlement — and tliere is liiit one wry to pidonie it — and that is liy a strai^litlonianl treatment, on a lilieialaiid states- manlike plan, 1)1 the entire luinniieieial relations. These words are pregnant with nioanine;. I ait their jireeiso nieaninfr is fully made out hy what follows. Mr. Jiayard continues : — 'I'lio tri'iivity of the jiresent I'ondition of atliiiis hetwc-en om' two cnnntrios dfinaiKls entire frankness, i feel wo staml at " tlie parting: of the ways.'' In one diiectioii ! can soo n well assnreil, steady, he.alfhfnl relationshi]!. di'void of petty j'ealon- sies, and tilled with the fruits ol a jirospority arisini.' out oi a lrienil.-hii» cemfiited tiy mutual interests, and eniluriiii.' hecanse hased npon Justice : on the otliera cari'cr of emhittereil rival- ry, staining our long frontier with the hues of hostility. What is the meiinini,' of this lan<;uaj,'e: stainiiiLr our long frontier with the hues of ho; tiiity ? \\'hiit was it in the mind of Mr. J>ayaid? The only Wiiy to settle this (piestion was to remove those cau.ses which threatened '' a career of enihittered rivalry, staining our long frontier with hues of ho.stility.'' I am glad to lind that the gentleman to whom the letter was addressed, and who. unfoi tuntitely, is not in his seat to-ilay (Sir Charles Tupper). fully reciprocated those sentinients, and he said in his answer to Mr. Hayard : — I entirely ooneur in ymir statement that we l.otli si;>ek t') attain ajii^t and [lermanent scttlemi'ut — and that there i> liui m m ■';^>n^ m m ^l .J?. ■■ *i di (1 :•«', «■■; ^;i! n- r- , i 11(1 i^PKKCH oneway ro innnn'o it— ;mil that is hy :i ^tiMi'-'lit t'oi'waiil tii'at- iiicnt, on a lilici'fil and statcsniaiilil';!' plan, of the fntirc com iiioicial lolations fif the t\vo connli'ics. \i ■ ' :.<■'■ , ' ) 'i'li().-t" wcit tiie sentiments o!" twD of the ,j;ontle- nicn who wore aftprwiUMls en<r!i<re(l us plenipotentiaries, each for lii'J own respective (lovtrnnienf . The Ann- riciin plenipotentiaries inach^ ])ropositions to tlie Uri- tish pl<>nipot"iitiaries. Wliat weic tliosi' i)ropo.sitions? A't'e iiave not yet heen aMc to liiid <.nt. i'or reasons AvI'ich have not yet hccn explained. th<' jjrojiosals n aih- hy the American ])lenip!)tentiaries, and those pviipti^iils nave hcen i'i? KKi'T FI.'OM TMK rrill.IC. V> \\ what I an Ihev have he(,'n ? \>'eca[i ima.u'ine what th.ey were; and what else conid they iiave heen ex- cepl a relleclion of the sentiment expressed hy Mi. ]>ayard himself, the Secretary of t5l:',ie. when writing- to Sir ( "harlcs Tupper ? ^\'hat else couUl they have heen hut pri>posals to settle tlie question iipon a hasis which wouhl remove fi(ou our lonu- frontier the dan- ger of " staining oui' long fritntiei' with the hues ot hostility?" What could they lie hul jiroposa's for till alxjlition of etistotus hetweeii the two countries? 1 fail to liiid they could he anything else, and unless we are siiown at a future day ihat I am in tlu^ wrong, and that they were iioi such proposals, T thiidv wo can I'airiy infer that such were ihv nropo'-als emanat- ing from Mr. iJayard. l>id the iiritish jilenipotentia- ries ansv;er in t'lat spirit .' Xo. The proposals made liy the I'ritish plenipotentiaries, ami which we have iielore us. are not in the same spirit which dictated t!i<> ;insw(;r of Sir ('harhv-; Tujjper to .Mr. l>ayard. Sir Charles Tup|)er iri tii.d answer said that he hop(Ml also that the ipiestion would he settled hy a " stvaiLrhl- lorward treat inent, on a liheral aiid .'•tatesmanlike ))lan. of the entire commercial relations of the two countries.'' Wlr.t was the new oropositior, hy the l!ri- : j|^!t H WJ WiiJ »| 1iroa'I B i <B I »ns w ww * ' W i' i ' ".i»' Wi -»< "" IN KAVOlt OV lUaiPKUCITY 417 tish j)l('iii|)ot('nti;irit'-> ? \V;i.^ it for an entire sottloinent of llic 4ue:ition upon that line? So; the iiroposal was SlMI'l.V AN AKUANCE.MKNT (.'oinniercial inl( reonv.-i ^ir I'or grculer freedom ('liarleM TiH)i)er',s i)rop():^al to settle the i|U('stion was l)y iui entire discussion ol'the trade relations, Imt the ])roiiosition of the I'.ritish |ileniiiotcntiarie.s wassiniply for greater freedom of commercial inlereourse than )io\v exists. I say lh(> hai\(ls ol'the iiritish pleinpo- tentiaries were hundicaiiped l)y some jiower. eitlier by tlie JJritisli Ciovernment or the Canadian (iovcrn- inent ; but it is manliest tliat the intentions of Mr. liayard were not reeiproeated by the ihitish plenipo- tentiaries at the discussion of the treaty. So that. Mr. Speaker, the tinie i-^ eminently we" to move in the sense indieatid by my' on my left, and send a commissioner to the (lovern- nienl at Washiii.£rtoa to eoniirm the jirineijile. if he sees it is possible to eoniirm it. which would remove jHistilily from our frontier line, but the (iovernment will not have that. J"]vcn if it were olfered, an I be- liev(! it was ottered in the negotiatit)n of tin; treaty, they will not liave it. Th(>y will not have unrestrict(>d reciprocity. They maintain their line of restricted recii)ro(nty ; they maintain the offer tliey have put upon the statute-]io<ik, of ;j,'ivinji; reciprocity in natu- ral i)Voducts ordy. What is the reason that they <J,i^•t cliosen now lonovalde friend for tl lis Th le reason they jrive is tliat, at |ires(>ni. unrestricte<l reciprocity would Ik; fatal to our maau- fai'tories. Well. Sir, as to the argument, "unrestricted reciprocitv would be fatal to our manul'actories." it is admitted that unr( strieted reciprocity would include reciprocity in natural products, and gentlemtii on the other side are ready to giv(> reci|irocity in natural products. They admit thereliy that recijiroeity in natural products would be favorable a)id would bene- fit the growers of natural products, ur. in other words, ''^^ ^i. ■; ) i: ■ ' s u* ' v' ) <)l . ,( ■ f'v- 418 SPEECH that it would 1)enefit the farmers. Thej' say that the interests ol' farmers in this instance and tlie inte- rests of manufacturers are antagonntic. Thev admit that unrestricted reciprocity, which includes reci)>ri>city in natural products, would favor the far- mers, lait tlicy say at the same time that it would injme the manufactuiers. I do not admit the argu- ment whatever, for I think reciprocity would he USEiri. AM. IMtlNL). But if it comes to this ; that we are forced to choose between the growers of natural })roducts and the ma- nufacturers, for my |)art my choice is made. T stand by the industry which numl)ers 70 per cent, of our ])0])ulation. I i-tand hy the industry without which no other industry' can live. But, Mr. Speaker. I do not aduiit the argument at all. I do not for a mo- ment admit that reciprocity in manufactured goods Avould he unfavoraldc to the manut'acturers. What is the oiijection ? The olijection is that our infant, industi'ics, as they are termed, are not yet strong enough to compete witli the industries oftlu* American pf';]ile. Sir. it is a jjarticularity of these infants, called industries, tliiit they never grow. They are monsters. Ihsiis niitunr. their appetite is insatialde, and yet they never get strong. They have to he ke])t on the feed- ing t)ottU> all the tim(>. Vou have to carry them in your arms all the time, and if you put them on their legs they moan, most piteously and are too weak to stand. Tiie })oor things are in fact so very weak that they combine amongst themselves to extort from tlie country, not only what the country will give them Avillingly. but even what tlie country will not give them. I can well understand that the monopolist will not have unrestricted recijjrocity. He lias the market to himself; the market is not large, it is true, but he has it all to himself without competition, and furthermore if there were com])etition he would have to exci't his brains and muscles as everybody else is compelled to do. Jiut IX FAVOR OF UKClPRudTV nu TllK (.EXriNK MAiMlAt TriilCK not only ia not afraid of iinrcstricted reciprocity, lnu Avill liuil witli joy the day that the American niariict is open to liini. What i.s it that modern imhiHtry wants in order to thrive? It wants space, and nothiiii:' else but space; and jxive to o\ir manufacturers that broad market of ()(!.( lUO.dlJU of people and every one with a heart in his bosom and a liead on his shoulders will tell \'ou that he is ready and eager to compete with the American manufaciurcr. My houoraiile friend the member for Ilouville (.Mr. (liguult) stated tlie other day that he was opposed to the present move- ment, liecause he thou,ti;lit unrestricted recipro( ity would destroy our manufacture,^, and he spoke from a local ])oint of view. T am sorry that on this occasion I have to sever from him on this (question. He said as follows : Wo know in the cities nf'St. lly.iciiitlic mid .Nioiitrcal tiie nuiiil)ei' ol' coiisuiui'i's of agricultural proihice is largely in- crt'iisiiig and our laruicr goes to this market. Every wet-k doaleiv go through our district huyiiig eggs, |)oultry, animals, fruits and otlier articles of larm produce, and wliero do those articles go in much larger nuantilies than in the past ? They go to the markets ol' St. ll\acuntlie and Montreal, where there are a hirgeiiuunher of consumers than in the past. Di-stroy l)y nnrestrictetl reciprocity the maiiula'Uuring industry of those two citit's, tiirow out of emiiloymcut the thousamU of worivingmi'M ulio gain tiieirliviug in those :n'uuifacl(irii>s, uii 1 wh.at would lie the result? i l(U' markets for the agriculturists' produce would lo-e its iuipi)rtanee. Sir, I will say to my hoiu;rable friend that the opiruon which he c.xjjresses on the result of imre- stricted reciprocity, with regard to the manufacturers of St. Hyacinthe. is not the opinion of tlie manufac- turers of St.Hyacinthe. .My hi-iiorablc friend thi' mem- ber for St. Hyacinthe (.Mr. iSeniirr) is a manufacturer and he is in i'avor of unrc'tricted reciprocity : and I hold in inv han I here a tclcgrani from Mr. Iloa/.. who ",■"■*».' m ':' t 1 1 (■■■■. 'i' T'"' ii ir' 'i'f s! •'', ri ii- |v 420 ^rEECH is a large and well-known nianuftioturer of !^t. Ilya- ointlif, and who says it' you give liim the American market to-morrow, the day iil'ter to-morrow he will trehle his OFtahli-hment. This, 8ir, is the opinion of a genuine mnnufacturer. It stands to common sen^e. and it ftands to reason, that the larger the field is at the ])rcscnt day for the manufacturer, the larger will he his exertions and the larger his proiit and his tr;ide. I'-ut. Sir. there is another olijection, and a most serious olijection upon the face of it. A\'e are told that unrestricted reciprocity woTLD lai;gi:i.y ai'fei;t oru hkvkme. T'nder ])resent circumstances the importations from tiie I'nited States yiehl to our revenue an annual amount of 87.(lii<i.(i( n. There is n > douht whatevn- that if unrestricted reciprocity were adopted we would lose tliLt revenue. Sir, I say at once, and T say em- phatically, that the prosjiect "has no cause of alarm to me. The prospect would he a serious cause of alarm, Sir. if the revenue of the country had Ijeen kept to the legitimate expenditure of the country, if the revenue of the c-ountry had heen kejit to the ligure indi:-pensahle to carry on the legislative husiness of the country, then. Sir, the necessity of providing the deliciency "of such a large amount to lie levied every year upon the peo))le of the country wouhl be a serious prohlcm. l>nt. Sir under the jiresent high rate of taxation the revenue has heen swelled far in excess olthe legitimate reciuiremerits of the country. The eciuilihrium has l)een re-eslablished l)y the Ciovern- nient between revenue and exjienditure. But. how? By decreasing the revenue? No, but by illegitima- tely increasing the expenditure. Sir, this fact that Ave are illegitimately inoeasing the exjienditure of the country l.ieyond the natural requirements of the people is a serious matter which should grow on the consideration of the gentlemen of this House. It is fruitful of evil consequences. The United States to- il,!;. .■-■; JJ^li ! ^iagja i # l i ^ ^t^i ^ M^^!BJ'. l W'W"j ^ ^^ T.\ KAVOK CF RKill'Kiii ITY 421 day Hutri.M' iVniu the Hume state <>! ulsi) things. Thov have AX Ai;.\o;;MAr.i.v T.AnriF-: keventi:, anil althoviirii tlio exiicndituri' has heon kept duwn lo a h'a'itiniate cxpeiulitiirc, still all the evils that we havi' to-day. iVom ;i hiru't! revenuo and a lar!i;e ex])eu- (liture. h;n'(.' also arisen in tin; United States. In a recent nuuihin' nl' lfiirii''r\'i Wrrkhj the editor of that most valuahle.alile and hi^h-toned paper, after havi n<r reviewed the policy of President Jefferson — who fav- ored a large expenditure, and in order to have a larj;'e expenditure would maintain a, tariff i)rovidinjj; for a suri)lu? — goes on to -peak in this way. and hi-! lan- guage T eomuicnd tu everyone who tliinks of those matters in this House : Experioni'c, IiowoviM', h'ls proved whit Jflfi'i-rsoii could not foresee tliat tlie. course he favored leu Is to overtaxation, class leirislatioii, a general derail u'euient of eonitnerce an I in lu-try, and polkical coiTujition. All of these evils we have in thi-i country. We have had class legislation. we have had over-taxation, and we have jioliiical corruption — political corru])tion .SI) hold that it does not even seek at this day to hide its shame. JiOt me in this connection quote the words spoken only a ((^.w weeks ago hy the Premier (»1 this country in the city (d' Quehec. At the dinner given there to the .Minister of Militia, he uttered these pregnant words: *^andlield Mai'donald, a Scotchman, and like ail Scoteliuieii but myself, exceedingly econoiuical, tooic great [lains to save up a surplus. The < Ipposition abused liim, and said lie iiatl not tilt! lieart to spend tiie money, l>ut tiiat when tliey got into power tlic-y would divide it. ."^o tliat lie was literally bou^'iit out with his own money. No <iiit successor oftlie present ( tovernineiit will li;M mucli Mnphis left id'ter us to speiid among his snp[ioiters. uur opponents say that wu W'-V.:'. 5'!'." '*^i t. 1 1 ; , Mi iW ^B ' -' ^M I , ^H> IH': . '.' • ,. B :l f IH|>: {.^v i if T«l ' ];, .P; ti 422 SI'EKCM bribo tlio constiliioncios, but we bribe tliein with theii own money. Sir, this is tlie level to which tiie pc^litics ol'tliis country bus been lowered b}' tbe I'alse system whicli we biive been pur^uint,' tor so may yciirs. Sir, T will liiiil with joy the (liiy wben it will m> lonj^^cr be in the power of tliis ( iovei'nment or nny "tber liov('in- ment ro nuiTU-: the I'Koit.k (M- this corNTKv with tbeir own money. T will hail with joy the day when no more money will be extorted from the peo- ple of this country tiian is absolutely necessary to carry on tbe bu-iuess of the country; anrl it' unres- tricted reciprocity were to do not]iin>i else than to reduce the expenditure to such a normal lij^ure that it would l)e im))ossible for any (ioveiiiment to distri- liute money amonu- the constituencies to bribe them, with my Ijoth bands I would vote for unrestricted recijjroeity. The advantages, Mr. Sijeaker. oi' a free, untrammelled commercial intercourse between tlugi country and the great countiy to the soutli of us cannot 1)6 denieil. Indeed, they are not denied. No assertion lias been made on tbe other side of tbe House against tbe apsertion made on ibis side that great benelits would follow" such an inti'rchango. The ohjectiou^ made are not made to the iilea itself, but all tbe objections are l>ased simply on tbe supposition that this e )urse AV(Uild be fatal to some interests in our own founty. Ibit. Sir. the one great objection which W(^ have beard iVoni all (|Uarter3 on tbe other side ol' tbe House lias been the cry of ilisloyalty. That cry came ax a lugubrious knell in all the S[)eecbes we have beard on this (pU'Stioi!. The objec- tion was taken that to admit ;!ie im]>oitations iVoni the United States free of duty, while we lax the imjK.r- tatioiis from (ircat I'ritain. would be disloyal. The objections U'ade on tlic sid'jeet were cry.-'allised in I ■p«" one gontenc^c liy tlio honorable Minister of tlio Inte- rior, in reply to an interruption liy lay honoraijle iViciid I'roin I'rince Edward Island : \Vli;it 1 -uiil was that a (Ulforcntial duty a>.'aiiHt En,t;':mil was (li>lc)yal to tU" laotlKU'-coiiutry and iiicunsistoiU with our Sir. it' tlii.H oiijec'ti'Mi means anythiii^^ it simply means that, if we find it U to l)e to our advantaire to adopt r(M-i|irocal I'ree trmle witli the T'nitcd States, we should I'ori'uo that advantage, heeause; weare a eohmy of Knyland. That is the proposition made by gentle- men OH tla- otlifu- r^idc. T denounce sueh a proposition ; I repudiate it ; I denounee it as uniuanly, as anti- Canadia.n, AXM K\£S ANTI-l!lirriSl|. To jn'etend. Sir, that our eolouial allegiance dcnnnuds from us that we should be deterred from tlu^ spirit of enterijrise, that we should refuse to extend our trade and to increase our pn>sperity according to the best methods which commend tbemselves to our jutlg- meut, to pretend that this is loyalty. I deny; and if I were to characterize the f'entiment in the only lan- guage in whieh it ought to be cluiracteri/.ed. I would hay this is not loyally, but that it i' mere Uunkeyism. We ate a colony ol' J'higlaud, it is tru(! ; liut we area, coh)nv not by force, but liy choice; and. if we are a, colony to-day, it is because we are convinced tliat at the i)ie-!ent day our ('olonial de[ienden;,'e is(iuitecom- })atil)le with tlie largest meastu'e of i-.ational advance- ment and material pro-perity. Tl'yon. on the olhcr ~ide. [o-etend th.it our eolouial relation curt.ails and iami.is our possibilities, that Knghuid would allow u^ to reach a certain altitu b.' and go no higher. I say you slander Knglaml ; and if-any man were to rise on tlie other side and tell us that Kn;;huid would be jealous at whatev"" we could do to improve our condition, I wuukl say that nuui tbie-i not know England, he m;3- .%:\ ".• M m. 42-i .«rEErir taken tlie Eny;l;in(l of to-day for the Kni^land oi' 100 years airo. T cduiiupikI tn the couHidei'alicni of tlieso fervjt'Ht loyalii^tH on the other side, wliose mouths iire ever full of the word loyalty, the following words spoken 1)3' Lord Paltuerston, 1*0 years ago, in rel'er- ence to the Hritisli North Aiueriean provinces: — If tlii'se provinces felt tliotnsolvos strong enough to stand niiiiu thfii' o'.vn ground, iiu'l li'thcy dosiro no longer tu nuiintain their eonneotion witii u-t. we shuujil say : " fiod speeil ynu uu i give you t!ie means to inaintiiin yourselves us a nation ! "' lit ■' There are TIIK SK.VTIMK.NT.s oK ni!ITI.-II STATKS.ME.V. They tell us that, whenever wo want our [lolitieal liherty, we arc free to have it. J»ut what we ask. Sir, is not [lolitieal indejieodeiK^e — we want to keep the flag of I'lngland over our heads ; but we adirni that Ave are eeononiieally independent as wo are legisla- tively independent. Sir, colonies have interests in conunon with the mother land, hut colonies have interests of their own also. To-day we levy a heavy toll on all imports from (Ireat liritain. We do that not oidy for the sake ol' collecting revenue, but also for the purpose of protection, to enable us to manu- fat'lure ourselves what we had fortof-rly purcdiased from Kmrland, and to that extent to de-troy British trade. There was a time when this 'ould not have lieen tol(M'ate<l ; there was a time when l^ngland would have <li.-!illo\v(!d such a [lolicy ; but now W(! adopt it as a mattei' of course; now our policy is never ques- tioned—why? f)ecau=e England has long ago ad- mitted the i)rinciple that colonies hav^e interests of thcii' own, and that it is within their right and power to develoi) and lo.ster and promote those interests, even to the vioint of clashing with British interests, it was not always so, however. Tn the last century Emrland lost her American colonies iii:-!- mpi IN I'AVOK ov nEcirnociTY 125 nEcvrsK THAT ruiNciri.K was icnoukh. The Anicricnn rcv'ilution broke out in vimlicnlion nf the [jrinciple that taxiilion ainl I'oiu'e.seiit.ition .should go io^elhiT. I'riuciples may li<^ (h>rmant for jj;eneni- tions until called lovth for the .solution of poiue <;re!it ig3ue. And what was tlu! issue which called for the vindiciition of those principles 1)\' the Americnii colo- me:i ? The ig.suo was this: At that tinu' there was a traile in the American colonies, and thd'e was al-^o a J'.i'itish trade; and the I'.ritish Parliament, from which the colonies were excluded, legislated exclu-^ivcly t'nr British trade airainst the interests of American trade. In our own country, in the year ISoT. a reh(.'lliou broke out in the two largest colonies left to I'lnj^hmd, and in both the provinces the cause of the rehellion was the same. Tt was that the ISritish Ciovernment ])ersistently i<,Miored the interest-! of the colonies as represented hy their r.ejiislatures. The I'ritish (iov- ernment. at that time, did not liold ui)on those mat- ters the same opinion that it holds to-dny ; hut when rehellion liroke out, not only in JiOwer Canada, where the population was not of IJritish origin, hut even in IJli|)er Canada, the I'ritish ( lovernment sent a com- nnssioner to investi;::ate tlu,' cause of the rehellion. In their selection ol Lord IHirham they were mo-t lucky, for in him they i'ho?<' a man (d'^'ieat sat::acity of ndnd. great jx^rsonal couraire, and large and lilieral views. If it were my duty to review liis report. I would he h(u;nd to tak'c exception to the conception which he I'ormed of my own countr 'men ; hut as to the nuiin conception of the rejiort. as to the main idea which governed it. it was one of the greatest concep- tions of an age fertile in great coucej)tions. It was. INDKKI). A KKVOI.l rioN. ''•■'■I '.-•■ i'< :■ <i'-„'.^ ik-i- \. Lord Purham found at once that the coltmies had interests of their own. and that the-e interest- had to be prosecuted to their logical end ; and he came to 'I 1 i-f ; ^1 I' I'- 1 ' f i: 426 ."I'EECH the ciiiHjluHion lluit lociil i»:irIiaiuoiit.s wrro the only piniiiiiiiL'iits (Uteil to (loal willi tluMu. Wo .su;;jx('ste(l tlicroluro to jfivo tlm colonie.H re.sixtnsiUlc ^fovcriiinont. That Wiis indccil a ri'volutiiui. ICvery country wliirli, up ti> that tiino. had coloniiH, always thuuuht it wais necessary to Ueepit.s c()h)uie8 close in hand; they all helievod that to ^rant the Hlif^htest euiancipation would ^^'uerate a desii'(! for complete einancipalion. F/ird huiliani I'ound that the converse proposition was true, lie found and maintained that coercion H'enerateil the desii'e for emancipation, hut that iVee- doni would he a hond ol' union. Tiiat was a revolu- ti indeed; it was oi,.) of the greatest conceptions of tin; aye, and all the .ijrcatnr because of the circuni- .stances under which it \vas foniied. There was a reh(dlioi) at the time in which two provinces partici- pated. There nas a rehellion in I he I'jjper I'rovince of Canada, where the population was of Uritish origin ; tliere was a I'ehellion, a far more dangerous one, in Lower Canada, wher(> the population was oi' alien origin, and had only recently hoen nnide suhjects of ICngland. And at that very moment, wiien the coiuitry was in the throes of civil war. when the soil was reek- ing with hloodslied. when llritish domination lunl to h<" maintainei] by force of arms, at that moment Lord Durham .^aid : MAKK 'I'M KM VKV.Vl, ami you will make them loyal. And wi' who live to- day are tlu^ happy witne-^ses of tlie sagacity of his mind and the realization of his [irophecy. We who live to-(hiy have seen how his policy has planted deep- felt loyally wluM'e iifty year.s ago rehellion existed. JUit. s^ir, 1 a-^k h )noi'al):e gentlenujn opposite what is the extent of the freedom whicli was then giantcil to us'.-' T say it (wtemls as far as Canadian interests extend, and to that extent we. mi this side, claim it. At that tim(!. it is true. Lord Durham had not one disciiilc. Jh'itish statesmen could not conceive that m.- mm IN iA\tii: III' itEciiMtiH rrv respousililc ^(tvornnit'iit coiilil exist in ii <'(»loiiy u-t it t'xistt'd ;it luMuo, luitl it \ViH not until iinotlicr luiistcr mind, Lord Kitriii, canio to tiiis country, tlnit the policy of Lord Durliiini received its lull measure ol' adoption, lint Lord Kl^dn \v<'nt I'urtlier. He ne;ro- ti!itc(l the treaty of roci|)rocity. iind in tli;it treaty he admitted tlu; i)rin(!i[»le ol' discrimination aj^ainst ilritisli tiado. Ts there; an himorahle gentleman on the other side of tlie I louse wlio will |ii'etend that these j,'reat men. Lord Durham and !,ord J''l;^in, did not save thi' liritish Crown on this continent? Will :iny one i»releii(l that tlie colonies wcuilil nave loni; consented to ho gov<'rne(l hy the Colonial Ollico, throuLch the instrumentality ol'a petty family com- pact .' Who is not awaro that the r(»ciprocity trcidy, ncii-otiatetl hy Lord i']l;iin in IS.")-!, etfectunlly (luelled the airitation for annexation which jollownl ISIl) I say to our lionorahle friends o[iposit(' : Y(Hi want to maintain llritish connection on this contirient. and so .'^ay r ; Itut T add thi."?. that if you want to maintain liritish coimection on this continent, j'.ritish connec- tion must walk ahreast with all the i'ri|uiri'nicnts of this country. Tn this Cdnnection. T cannot do licitor than (piote the ndnnte of council of the Coalition ( iov- ernnieut of ISii."), which is i)regnunt with meaninff, in vi(nv of the iiresent rircumstancos. The minute is as I'ollow.s : ruder tlie IxMii'lifiiMit operation of the system ol'scir^'ov- .■riijiu'iu. wli'h'li till! liitiT poliiiv of till' inotlnM'.couiitiT lias .■icconh^il to ( ' iiiailii, in ooinmnii with tin' other colouii's |io>- M's^iiiLT ri'pre-iontative iusiinitions. comhini-i! witli tlie iidvan- ta.:.'(!s -ecurod liy tlm I't'ciiiincity Treats' of an nnii--lriit('il eonnni^vi' \vitli our iH'aiTsl ni'iglihor> in ih' namial )'ro hic- tion-; of thi' i\vo couutrii's, all a^ifation^ for i)ri.'ani>' i'liau>.'i^ lia- cc'i-ei! — all (|i>.satisractifin with ilii> .■.\:>tlii,i.' liolilirai icla- lions 111' till' |iiovill('e lia~ wholly iii-a|ij.('al'eil ..^";': TIero is the admission that reripricity with the IMAGE EVALUATION TEST TARGET (MT-3) / O >' c^ ^ /^ ^< i/x 1.0 I.I J50 '"* !i3 2 m IIM M 1.8 1.25 1.4 1.6 ^ 6" — ► V <$>^ ''4^ ^. 'c>l e. c^J ^■..'^ <$>. 'y. 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Tliere is no tV'arof any desire for organic cltanges as long as tlie i)eiiple are prosperous. But the nionieiit the [)eo;)le\vill i)egin to believe that iheir pro3i)erity would he increased hy an organic change, from that inonient danger may arise. As to our moral right to act as we liave acted in this matter. T liave not the slightest doubt. The objection of honorable gentle- men opposite wouhl have been a mui'h stronger one, at least in my eyes, if it had been made from a ditfer- ent Ptandpoint. If instead of telling us that we have not tlu! right to propose to d'scriminate against En- gland, they had said it would not be generous to En- gland to discriminate against her, the objection. to my mind, would have been far stronger ; and if I am not trespassing beyond the limits of good taste in speaking of my own individual sentiments, I would say that this is a consideration which gave me much concern. We have been told in the course of tins del)ate, in many instances, tliat sentiment should not l)e aHowed in politics. That view T do not take. My opinion is that sentiment may, as well in politics as in every- thing else, well shai)e our actions to the extent of making us generous if we can be generous without IN FAVOR OF RECirROCITY :my sacrifice of duty. Sir, T ain a subject of French origin, and T liavo often stated — and you, Mr. .Sj)eal\er, agree with me — that there is NO MORE LOYAL RACE OF MEN under the British Crown on the American continent than Her Majesty's subjects of French origin. Loy- iilty is natural to you, men of liritish origin ; it flows in your bhtod ; you have inhaled it from tlie heart of your mothers ; but I tell you that gratitude has worked in the hearts of my countrymen feelings of the same nature which is implanted in your hearts by your origin or your birth. With all my soul I say, let my tongue adhere to the roof of my mouth if it were ever to speak an unkind word of England ; let my right hand wither if it participated in any tiling Avhich would be unfair to England. But this is not a Mostion of sentiment. This is a question of dut)', and ■■ y «'.< put it in th light, that T have to choose between thf. '"'\K. Jo^.e to England, and the dut}' I owe to my native ind, I Ftand by my native land. And there is not an Englisiiman.with an English heart in his bo- som, that will not say the same if he is a true born Briton. Sir. England would treat us with contempt if we Avere to act otherwise than we are acting. England expects from us that we shall do the best we can for ourselves, and she will take care oi herself, without any assistance from Canadian Tories. I am quite sure of ( nc thing. It is quite possible that John Bull may grumble, but in his grumbling there will be as much l)ride aa anger, and John Bull will feel flattered if there is an offspring of his so much like the old gent- leman that he will not lose any occasion to earn an honest penny. John Bull will feel flattered if he finds that scion of his a true chip of the old block, liut there is another kind of loyalty which has not been alluded to on the other side of the House, and which should be taken into consideration in this instance. I have not heard from the other side a word about the |l I if 430 SPEECH loj'alty which we owe to Confederation. Twenty j'ears ago we united the IJritish provinces on this continent witli the view of making A NEW NATIONALITY and with the hope of making them a nation. It was then a union on paper. Tt was expected that it would, be made a real union. The union has lasted twentj' years, and what is the result to-day ? What have we achieved during those twenty years ? T say that to- day, after twenty years, the union which, in 18G7,wa3 a mere union on paper is to-day still a mere union on paper. Tho hearts of the people by the sea are not in the union. Some honorable members; — They are. Mr. Laurier: — My honorable friend tho senior member for Halifax (Mr. Jimei') was once rebuked for saying that he \yas a NovaSootian by birth and a Can- adian by act of Parliament. I say, and I think I speak with knowledge, that the ser\timents which were then uttered by my honorable friend are the senti- ments entertained by nineteen-twentieths of the peo- ple of Nova Scotia. Some honorable members: — No. Mr. Laurier : Yes. Perhaps it will be said that I have no cause to speak that way, because Nova Scotia has returned a majority to support the Govern- ment. Sir, the reason why Nova Scotia has returned a majority to support the Government is that the issue which the Liberal party placed before the people of Nova Scotia was not repeal. I believe in Confede- ration; we believe in Confederation, p,nd we want the people of the Maritime provinces to understand that it is the policy of the Liberal party not S(j much to induce them to return to support us, but to win them over to Confederation, and to make them not only loyal British subjects, as they are, but loyal Canadians as well. If you want to'do that, if you want to achieve that object, you must revise your policy altogether ; i IN FAVOn OK RECIPROCITY 431 fy years ontineiit if you want to achieve that ohject, you must give to the people of Nova Scotia and the Maritime proNinces their natural niarlcet. It was t would twenty lave we that to- 8G7,wa3 inion on e not in senior iked for I a Can- ihink I [ch wei-e 3 senti- ho peo- id that ! Nova rovern- turned at the people nfe de- nt the I that ch to I them i only idians !hieve 3ther : LET THEM TRADE Avliere it is mo?t profitable for them to trade, and their hearts will be won over to the Canadian ilag, not only to the IJritish flag. It was ouv hope at one time to make this country a nation. It is our hojie yet. Some honorable members ; — Hear, hear ! ^fr. Laurier : — I hail that sentiment with joy, with unbounded joy, all the more that it is altoge- ther unforeseen, I had expected, from the talk we have heard fr(»m these gentlemen on the other side of the House, that they exi)ected tiiat this country woulil forever and forever remain a colony, I see now that tliey have higher a-jpirations, and I give them credit for that. Colonies are det^tined to become na- tions, as it is the destiny of a child to Ijecome a man. No one, even on the other side, will assume that this country, which will some day number a larger ))opu- lation than Great J>ritain, is forever tu remain in its present political relation with Great liritain. The time is coming when the present relations of Great Britain and Canada must either become closer or be severed altogether. For my own part, I do not intend at present to carry out this line of thought any fur- ther, but I simply say that, if ever and whenever Canada chooses, to use the language of Lord Palraerston, to stand by herself, the separation will take place not only in peace, but in friendship and in love, as the son leaves the house of his father to be- come himself the father of a family. lUit this is not the question of to-day. To-day weliaveto face a prob- lem of no email magnitude, which is to provide the best means of developing and broadening the area of our trade to such an extent as to afford to our stug- gling industries the space they retjuire 432 SPEECH Tu THRIVE AND DEVELOP. Tliis is the duty of tlio i)resent hour; thi.s is the task which 1)513 to be faced and met. We, uu this side of the House, believe that the motion of my honorable friend from South Oxford (Sir Richard Cartwright) exactly meets the case , we believe that the solution of the problem is complete in unrestricted reciprocity with the great nation to the south of us. I fully appreciate the objection of our friends on the other side, who say that our course is not generous towards England. My answer is simply this: I only wish that we could offer to Englanil the tame propositions that we lAXer to-day to the American people. England has opened to us her doors. Gentlemen on the other side of the House have closed our doors against Eng- land. They have done it, I know, not in any spirit of h(jstility towards England, but because they thought it was in the interest of tliis country. They have adoi)ted protection as their deliberate policy. England has the i)olicy of free trade. England is 3,U0f» miles away from us. The jjolicy of the United States is a policy of protection, the same as ours. They are our nearest neigh))ors. There are our channels of trade. Therefore, the course we take is not a matter of choice, it is the dictate of reason. I fully appreciate as well the objection of those who say this is the first t)f a series of changes which must end in annexation. Sir, I grant at once that there is force in the objec- tion if you look only at the surface; but it is the greatest posible misconception in politics to believe that the same mould will reproduce the same casta of events. It is true that history ever repeats itself, but HISTORY NEVER REPE.\TS ITSELF in identically the same terms. It is true that the same causes always produce the same effects, but those effects are always modified by a variety of cou- IN r.WOK OF IlECIPnoi'ITY 43.", comitant circum=tanceg. Who, for in«tiinrr, would have expected, fifty years ago, that the coiu'esnion of responaihle government would have resulted, as it has resulted, in a ^clof-er union between Kngland and Canada? All the wiseaeies of tl)at day i)redi(ted that the conceHsioii whieh was n)ade at that time would result in tlie ahsolute severance of Canada from the Empire, hut all the prophecies have heen falsified. The result has been to draw the two coun- tries closer together than ever. "W'e anticipate on this fiide of the House that the carrying of my honoralde friend's resolution will have the eflfect of bringing about such ])ros)i(!rity to this country that trade will increase, not only between Canada and the T'nited States, but between Canada and Great Britain herself, and make the bunds of union still str(»nger than they are. Nor, Sir, would I treat lightly the misgiv- ings of those wlio, on the thresliold of a great event, as this is sure to be, stand irresolute, dreading the unknown. I can well conceive that sentiment. Even when the mind is satisfied that a given political -itua- tion has become intolerable, that a change has to be made, even then the contemplated reform may, ]ier- l;xps, be lo(dced upon with misapprehension. For instance, the most radical reformer amongst us. con- vinced though he may be that a revision of the T'nion Act which binds the three kingdoms together has become necessary, still may not look without anxiety to the impending change. When the past has been 80 gbrious, when the present condition of things, though it has wrought intolerable evils, has made England so great, even he wht) is determined to amend the present constitution and amend it effectually to remove existir«g evils — even he. Sir, perhaps would not touch tlie existing fabric except with a treml)ling hand. But at the same time the staunchest T'^ry must admit that the history of England has been AN UNCEASING TRAN.SFORMATION. There has not been one century when England did 28 434 f-I'EKCH Ifi not change, wlien England has licen the same ns in the century before. England moved onward and onward, from progress to progress, until she has rr-ndu'd her prtgrnt ))osition. Yet every one of those changes, whicli have made England whatslieis to-day, has been met by Tories and by Conservatives with the taunts of disloyally with whicli we are met to-day. To go no further l»ack than the ])resent century when Catliolic Emancipation had become unavoidable, all the Tories of England, from the King downwards, wept over the fall of England. When the Reform Bill was carried, all the Tories of England wept over the downfall of their country; when the Corn Laws were abolished, still the Tories of England had more tears to shed. In our own countrj', when retnionsible gov- ernment was first agitated, all the Tories of Canada wept over the im))ending rupture of British connec- tion ; and when, a few years afterwards, responsible government was carried into effect, the Tories no longer we))!, but they raved, they burst out into a torrent of ])assion. Their rage was perfectly genuine, but the tears they shed were merely crocodile tears. What the Tories, JJritish or Canadian, wept over upon those occasions, was nut the downfall of England, was not the rupture of British connection, but it was the loss of some privilege or some monopoly which, ui)on all those occasions, was forcibly removed from their gras]). Hir, if the views of the Canadian Tories had prevailed fifty years ago, Canada would still be a medley of scattered, provinces, each governed or rather owned BY A SMALL FAMILY COMPACT. If the Tories of to-day, if those whose lamentations we liave heard for the last fifteen days, had lived fifty years ago, they, like their ancestors, would have howled with loyal yells against the reforms which have raised Canada from the position which she tlien lield to the proud position which she occujnes to-day ; IN I'AVOU OF RECIPROC'ITV 435 they would Imve opposed tliose reforms with the same cries of h)yalty witli which they meet us to-djiy ; iind I venture to say, judging of the future hy the past, that the Tories fifty years hence will rejoice at the adoptioij of tlie resolution of my honorable friend, as it mupc Ije adopted some day, though, true to their Tory nature, thej will shrink from the reforms which will theu be neceMsary. Sir, I am not disposed to treat otherwise than w.th respect those protests which have be'jn raised against the disturbance of the present stute of things. lam reminded, in this ctinnection, of some words written by Armand Carrel, a Frenchman of great power and greater promise, who, unfortuna- tely, fell a premature victim of that curse of French civilization, duelling. Armand Carrel had been an officer in the French army, and had deserted to join one of those numerous insurrections which took place in Spain about the year 1S20, in favor of constitu- tional government. He was taken prisoner, court- martialled and sentenced to death ; but after a series of dramatic incidents he obtained a new trial and was finally acquitted. Referring, some years later, to the events which had brought on those insurrections, the French revolution, the Napoleonic wars, and the organic disturbances created by tliose events, the new aspirations developed, in consequence, in some classes of society, and, in other classes of society, the intense attachment to the old irtiime and the intense desire for its restoration, he concluded as follows : Events ill their continual and fatal transformation do not carry all minds with tliem, nor curb all clixracitors with an equal facility, nor tako care of all interests; this must be understood and soaiothin;; must be fbririven to the protesta- tions which rise in favor of the [)ast. When a period is ei.ded, the mould is shattered, and it is enough for Providence that it cannot be reconstituted. Those words seem to be full of meaning, and they seem forcibly to teach the lesson that it is tlie duty of Reformers ever to btand up ro the duty of the liour. K r ^^ |i .' ill 430 SPEECH WITIIOIT KKAlt OK TItK. CON.SElA'KN'CES, i'ltlier to thoiiiaelves or to the country ; over respect- injr, hut btill never heeding, those? jirote.sts which iire Hure to he raided in luvur cf the j)!ist— in the wctrda of President Lincoln " with niulice towurda none, Avith charily for all, with lirnine&s in the right as Ciocl gives us to see the right. " Sir, helieving that I aiipeai to all Reformerrf on the present occasion, T appeal not only to thoae who belong to the lleforni organization, hut T apjjeal to all those who believe thai the worhl c.'innot remain stationary; I appeal to all those who believe that new exigencies are always arising which rtHpiire to be dealt with; I ajtpeal to all those who liclieve that the present economical condition ol' Canada is false and dangerous ; I ajipeal to the old men wlio, in ;'i>rnier years, have borne the brunt of many battles in tavor of reform, and who have lent a helping slioulder to bring up their country to the liigh level it occupies to-day ; T apjtcal to the young men whose aim it is to raise tlieir country still liigher — of all I ask tlieir supjiort in the task we have under- taken at this time. Sir, our opjjonents on this occa- sion again drag up their f)ld-time weapon of abuse. They tell us that we a;e disloyal, that we are traitors, THAT WK ARE ANNEXATIONISTS. With such invectives we are not concerned. Those invectives are only an anticipation of those with whicli we will be assailed by our opponents. Again, tliey will appeal to all the prejudices that may lie in the*])eople against this policy. They will again tor- ture noble sentiments in order to arouse suspicion against tliis policy, they will again j)robe the narrow- corners of the heart in order to awaken what may be found there low and vile against this new policy. But with such tactics we are not concerned. Such tactics have been faced before and we must face them again. They gay that Avithout a doubt the people IX lAVdll i)V IlKrll'Uitf ITY ^37 will rf'pol us, tliat vi -tory will ajrain perch on tho hanimr.-J of tho CuiHtirvative party. With such cuni^ifl- eratioiH we are not (vmcorned. Our coasidcM'atioiH are hif^her, our ainn arn liighor than .such low. vulj;ar, vile, .sollish coiHidnnition.s, And, Mr. Speaker. I apiJoal to all those wlio hclievc lliat politics are lunllxu- u trade, nor a giiin ; 1 appeal to all those who helicve that politics arc a duty whicli must he discharged, not witli ii view to tlie <:iiin to lio attaine 1, but dis- charged simply for duly'.s sake, and to those, in the language of the poet. I say Oiiwanl! tliio.v ;ill tiMTors off! .•^lii'lit llic scorns, si;(jrn tlio sPoiF. Ill the race, and not the prize, ( dory's ti'iu! distinction lies, 'rriunipli hoi'ils with meanest thing's, Co^union rol)h.?rs, vilest slinu;^, "Mid the reckles.s multitude! lUit the nenerous, hut tho good Stan<l in moilesty alone, Still serenely sti'UL'gling on, I'lantin;: iicacefully the seeds I It hti,i,'hter hopes and better deeds. I Ijelieve. Mr. Speaker, that my honorable friend to my left has planted the seeds of brighter hopes and better days for this country when he moved this resolution. We may be defeated ; but as my honor- able from Prince Edward Island (.Mr. Davies) said a few days ago, time is with us. Yes, TIME IS WITH rs, the cause is true and it will prevail. We are just now in the last days of a long and severe winter. Nature, which is now torpid and inert, will awaken in a few days under the penetrating influences of a warmer sun, and the great river at the foot of the cliff on which we stand, now imprisoned in the clo.»e embrace of frost, will throw off her shacklcsand roll unfettered 438 SPEECH IN FAVOri cil' UECirUOClTY III and free toward the sea. So sure an thU will happen. I say that under the penetrating iidlueneo ol" dirtcussion, of hettfr feelings on hoth sides of the lino, the hosti- lity which now stains our long frontier will ilisappear, the barriers which now oljstruet trade will be burst open and trade will |)our in along all the avenues from the north, free, untranunellod and without fear of embarras.'^nient or i)rovocati()n. r )n, ti- ar, rst 103 !iir Dcatli of Hoii. Tliomas Wliite {1I0U!<E OF COMMONS) Sitting of ioBb Acuil, 188S < )f' nil tlio l)i'i(>f aildi'osst's over ili'liverofl in tlio FIoiiso of Commciiis on tlio ooousioii of tlio di'atli of w inninljor, tlio following iff, |(LM'linps, th« ono wliicli pro inccil tli<i greatest ofP'Ot, iiml it is consetjiu'ntly roganU'il in I'arli.iiutMit as a niodoi of its kind : Mil. ypEAKEli, In aecoudin^ the motion, I can scarcely find words to give expression to the. very sad eu)oti(»ns which this occasion arouse^. Engaged as wo are in daily strite. divided as we are in aims and jturpoges, strnggling for our own convictions, we are too .-ipt to forget wliat we readily realize to-day, that after all there is an universal kin amongst us ; and when a nnui Mr. White's eminence is removed from amongr?t us we all individually feel that we have sufTered a loss, and perhai)S,ror the first tiine,wecan see the lull meas- ure of the man's worth. It is. however, a misfortune of our nature that we never appreciate fully what wo have until we have lost it, and thi-* feeling comes forcihly to me to-day. Tn Mr. White's ileath the whole nation has sufTered a grent loss, hut T realize and understand that to hi^s friends the hlow niU-<t seem almost unhearahle. ITis untiring energy and indus- try, his vast and wide knowlclge of all political questions, his aptitude J'or husiness, his great admin- if^ l':ai«| i 1"! '^ ' ' *' -p \ i^li wM. ) ' 440 srEECJl O.N MU. WHITE .< DEATH islrfitive ability, his skill in debate, his eloquence, all weio the hapj)}' coml)ination of varied tjiialities which made him a tower of strength to those with whom he was associated, and we on this side of the House can never forget, as has l)een said by the Minister of Pub- lic Works, that uj)on all occasions, whether on the lloor of Parliament or whether in his department as an executive ullicer of the Crown, he was alwnys civil, courteous and obliging. But I am sure thai, great as the blow must be to the country at large, to his l)arty and to his family, there is no one who feels it more deeply than the veteran Premier. We all can sympathize with him, and we do sympathize with him, and much as we may diifer from him in p(ditic3 on various questions, we all understand that at his time of life the death of a long trusted friend must deal a severe blow. Death with us has l)een of late unusually cruel; Mr. White is the ninth ofourcollca- gues we have lost since last elections. Death has been unsparing, striking alike on all ages and stations, and this last l)low, coming as it does so suddenly and so unex]iectedly after so many others, recalls very forcibly the wtjrds of Purke : "What shadows we are and what shadows we pursue !" ^^^^.v 111'. Lauricr Mure tliepcoiileof Ontario THE LIBERA L GA'l If/CR 1 XG A T OA K \ IL L E CJRKAT OVATTOX TX TfOXOR OF THE LIBERAL LEADER HISOl'IMO.N OX TIIIC ECONOMIC SITIATI > , >.)V THK col NTliV Espeeiiilly siiioe liis elovatioii to tlif leti'lershiji of the I.iljoral party, Mr. Lniirier lias ina'U' it an annual practice to a'i ii'<'ss the ponple ot't )iitario on tho j;rfat (|tie.stions ol'thcilay. His tour ol' l>iSS was a series of triumphal roceptions. 'riic ^'oung Liberals ot Toronto .set the example by inciting him to siioak on the Kith August at Oikvilie, in the county v)l' 11 ilton, uiiich was then in tlie throes of an eleotion. The festivity ^^•as splen- did and the following sjieeeh was reported in full by the whole Liberal jn'ess of the province : I would vainly endeavor to find \v(»rds to convey to you the full measure of the gratitude that I feel I owe you for the kind recogrition you are pleased to give me on this occasion. I can assure you from the bottom of my heart that my \vf)r<ls are not mere empty words or the mere jierfunctory expressions of conventional formality. I deejily feel what I now say, and. if T were allowed without any impropriety to ;idd one word more in reference to myself. I wouhl say that nothing whatever in the course >'f my life has 442 .SPEECH ever cheered me inoro than the reception whicli has been given me by my fellow-citizens of Ontario, in tiie position which the too partial regard of my friends of the House of Conunons has placed upon me. To you, Sir, I foel especially grateful for the kind words you have spoken of me. lam a French-C!anadian, as 1 need not repeat to you. You have heard it before, and I need not tell it you again. But while my heart ever feels warm towards the land of my ancestors, w » MY KIIIST ALLEGIANCE is to England, nay, to Canada. I need not tell 3'ou that the Liberal party has suffered greatly from the loss of Mr. Blake. He w;',5 a personality in himself. He is oneof those allies wliose lo^s nothing can make up fur. If the party has not suffered more than it has since his withdrawal from the leadership, it is due, in the first place, to the example he has left to us, to the strength helms given to the party, and due also large- ly, too, to the able men who surround me in the House of Commons, and, above all, to my friend. Sir Richard Cartwright, who during last session ])roduced a ])olicy which, dashed as it may bo upon the l)illow8 of infu- riated faction, assailed as it may be by passionate ])ro)udiee, tortured as it may l)e by greed and avarice, is I'ound to win, and I lioi)o will win in this county of Halton not later than next week. We have come liere to-day in reference to an issue which is l)ei\)re us at this moment, and I have ci)inc here to talk to you of it. F(»r myself, though I am at this moment the responsil)le iieail of the Iloform i)arty, I claim for mysoll'no other merit than that of belonging to the great body of Canadian I'oformers. And by " Re- formers "' I do not mean alone those who are to b(; foiuul in the ranks of the Roforiu party, but all those who believe that the world cannot forever remain stationary. That i.« to b(> left behind in the race. Unless the principles which guide a community in- clude that of reformation in order to suit the reijuire- AT OAKVII.I.E IN 1SS8 443 ments of the community, it cannot remain for long ])rogre3Hive. These are the princii)le3 that actuate us. T see before me a large number of men who evi<lently have been veterans in former Reform struggles, and nothing can give me more pleasure than to see near me on the platform my old friend, Joe Rymal. whose name is a household word in every house in Ontario, and who has been one of tho^e veterans of Reform who havestood the brunt of many cnnlllcts in former times. Sir,Mr. Rymal and others of his generation can testif}' that there never was a Canadian generation Avhich had not to fight that battle in the cause of Re- form, wliioh had not to Ijattle AGAINST SOME NATIONAL EVIL. In their earlier years this country — not only Up- per Canada, but Lower Canada, my native province — AVas hebl as a close corporation by a few favored in- dividuals who toiled not, neither did they sjnn, but who yet lived upon the fat of the land. They can re- member that it took Roliert Raldwin almost a whole lifetime to grnpple with this evil and overcome it, and at last to obtain a government by the peojjle and for the people. They can remember that after this evil disapi)eared another came to the front. The union between Lower Canada and Ujjper Canada had been so clumsily drawn that so f;iir and honest a princii)le as representation by ])o})ulation was system- atically denied by one province. then by another, lie- cau.-e it was feared that representi',tion by ])opulation would [trove an instrument of tyranny in the hand of the powerful province. They can rfMuembcr that it took Ceorge Brown also a whole lifetin.e to obtain jus- tice not only for the province of Ontario. Init for the whole united provii\ce of Canada, [ttook him a whole lifetime to obtain the remedy of that evil and to sub- stitute for the clumsy fA^gislativo union the present Federal union of the British American (irovinces. AVell.8ir, T will say to the Reformers of this county of m M Tr| '«■ ^5 'M 444 SPEECH Ilalton, to the Uet'onners of the province of Ontario, that we also, wo Keforiners of the year 1888, we Can- acliaa< of thi.-* ilay, have a ta-<k to perform, a duty to aciiievo and an evil to grapple with, wliich, if not grap{)le(l witli, MUST iiUAO DOWN Tiii.s oru corxpiiv. Sir. I i)Ut it to any of you. It i.s now twenty-one year.s since (Confederation was estaljlinhed. We started with the hi}]n) — is it not true? — we started with the h(i[)e.as it was said at that time, that we would link togetiier the iJritish provinces on the continent of America, that we would hind them togetlier with ties of afTcc- tion and mutual i»ride and that we would make them a nation. Such was our dream, such was our hope often ex])rc3scd, often repeated. Now, I ask every one in this audience, no matter what may have l)een in the past his predilections, no matter whocherhehas heen a Conservative or a Reformer — I ask every one in this audience, looking hack over the time, how far have we advanced in the task we set ourselves to Ijerform twenty-one years ago ? Sir, the painful answer must be that we have not advanced one iota, one single jot. And what is the reason ? The reason cannot he other than this, that Canada has not found under the new regime the prosi)erity which was the goal we had set out to obtain. I would not comi)are our lot with the lot of European populations, hut I ask you if it is not true that Ave have not reached the prosperity which was the goal to which we were look- ing ? It is true, Mr. Chairman, that the Ministerial press will liOt admit that ; I do not expect from them any admis.sion, but I would ask the opinion upon that subject of anj' ('onservative who may do me the honor of listening to me. The Conservative pr^as assert that we are a most prosperous people, hut they reason after the manner of Sir John FalstafT ; they take sentiments for facts. Sir John FalstaflF had brag- ged that the Prince owed Iiim a thousand pounds, A*? AT OAKVIIJ.E IN 188S 445 and when taken to task by tlie Prince, wlio said, •■ Sirrali, do I owe you a thousand pounds?" lie iO[>lied. •• Dost tliou owe nie a thouciand pounds, IIul ? Thou owest nie thy life and thy love, and thy life- and thy love are worth a million." That i-> the way the Conservative press argue. When we say we are not ))ro3perou3. they say. " We l)elong to the greatest Empire in the world.'' And so we do. hut, at the same time, wo have not under the Kniplro THAT .-HARE OK rUOSPEUITV that is duo to us, which should he our lot as Cana- dians, as i)art and jjarcel of this great continent, liut, sir, there ii a criterion which we can always resort to in order to ascertain whether the population is as prosperous as it ought to he. Real estate, in our state of civilization, is a pretty fair criterion of the pros- Iterity of the jjeople. If the value of real estate is going up, that is a fair evidence of prosperity ; if real estate is going down, it eeenn to nie there must he Something wrong somewhere. I venture to assert this much, and I assert it without fear of succes.sful con- tradiction, that in the Dominion of Canada, apart from the large railway centres, real estate for the last (Mght years hss not heen advancing ; in a great niany ])laces it has been retrograding. I do not know Ikjw it is in the county of Ilalton, hut I say this f(jr the l)rovince from which I come, that there is not in Quebec a single farm which would sell for the jirice it would have sold for eight years ago. I invite rellec- tion upon this point by whatever Conservatives there may be in this audience. And the reason is olivious, the reason is not far to seek. "^Vhat is it that makes real estate valuable in our railway centres? It is because i)opulation is bound to resort to those centres in our state of civilization. What is it that makes real ef?tate valuable anywhere? Population. Show me -* .; -l: I ill Hi n ,* f L '> <•* ll C & « 4. 446 SPKECII A TIIRKI.V-HETTr.ED COUXTUY and I will show you !i country where real estate is valu- ahle Wluit is the tact ahuut our pt)pulation ? Tlie fact is that there is going on a serious loss of our population. Hundreds, and we might almost say tln)usands, of our t'ollow-countrynien are daily leaving our countrv to give tlieir labor to the other side of the line, t know tluit is a statement which will be denied by the Conservative press, but I appeal to the iutellisience of tiiis audience. If the Conservative press deny this, why do they not deny that the sun shines, that lire 1 turns, that water runs down hill, that night succeeds the day and day the night, that two and two make four ? Tliey might as well deny any of tiiese propositions as to deny that we are losing our own poi)uhition. Sir, what I now say I will not advance any statistics to prove, but I appeal to the intelligence of every man in this audience, to the experience of every man in this audience. And, sir, I may say this in Ontario, as I have often stated it in my own province : there is not a man, not one eingle man of the race to which I belong, in the pro- vince of Quebec, of forty or forty-five years of age, who has not on the other side of the line a near rela- tive — a father, a son, an uncle or a cousin. That is t.. pretty broad statement to make, still I make it aft regards my own province without fear of successful contradiction. I reassert that there is not one single French Canadian in Quebec to-day of the age of forty- five years who has not in the United States some of his own relatives. And if I were to ask any one of this audience— you, sir, or you, or you — to tell me if you have some relative in the United States, I believe the answer would be, I have — a son, a cousin, an uncle, as the case may be. I.s not that state of things most appalling? Why is it that we should have enii- gration from our country ? I can understand emigra- tion from Europe to America, but I cannot under- Btaiid eniigration from Canada to the United States. AT OAKVILI.E IX 18SS 44' I call uiKlorstanU en)igration from Ireland, ill-gov- erned as it has been for centuries. I can undcrsttind emigrati<ui from (ireat liritain where the stru<i<j,le for food is ever recurring -a subject of anxiety with niilli<ms uf our fellow-men. I can understand emi- gration from Ciermany crushed as it is under a mili- tary despotism, liut I ask in Canada WHAT CAN BE THE CALSE, what can he the reason for emigration? Can it be that our institutions are not equal to the American institutions? There is not a man liere in Canada who would say that. We say not merely that our institutions are equal to those of our neighbors, I, ut that they are better, more elastic and more conducive to freedom, (^nn it be. Sir, that our soil and climate are inferior to the soil and climate of the United States ? Sir, I say this : I am willing to grant, for it is so, that the Americans have the advantage of a greater variety of climate, but in everything that makes a great race, in everything that makes a noble and 7 lanly race, Ave have the advantage of climate and ])roduction over our American neighbors. Well, then, if the fault is not to be found in the soil or the climate, or in the institutions of the land, where can the fault be, for it must be somewhere? I invite every one in this audience, whatever may have been his political convictions before, to give me an an&wer if he can. The answer I give is this, and it seems to me to be manifest that there can be no ansAver but this : If the fault is not to be found in the institutions, or the soil, or the climate, then the evil must be in the economic policy of the Government. A Voice — That's the root of the matter. Honorable Mr. Laurier — That is n THE HOOT OF THE EVIL INDEED. I will not be so dishono?! as to say that the economic policy of the Government, the national policy, is the m^i 448 SPEECH n^^' solo and whole cause ofthefivil from which wo pufTor. Hir, T am a Liberal and a iteformer, and I claim to fipoiik always honestly to my I'el low-countrymen, to tell the truth, even when it may not be wholly pala- table. I claim thi« merit — that T speak my own con- victiniifj. T do not lay the whole blame upon the national jjolicy, but T t-har^'e this upon the Ciovern- ment of the land — T arrai}:;n them for this — thiit they promised, ten years ago. to reniove the evil and they have not rennu'ed it ; but, on the contrary, their policy has inlensilied it. Ten years ago, Mr. Chair- man, you were quite a young man, but, coming from such a good stock as yiui do, T am sure 3'ou took an active part in politics even then. You remember what took i)lace in those days. It was in the last days of the administration of Mr. .Maeken/ie. You remem- ber that, everywhere where there was a stump large enough to hold two feet, there you found a Conserva- tive orator preaching that Mr. Mackenzie and his colleagues were l1ies on the wheel and good for no- thing; that if they had a little of the brains of the other side they would have devised a plan which would have cured the country of the evil from which it was suffering. We were suffering from a severe de))ression in trade. j\[r. Mackenzie told you. Sir nichard Cartwright told you, they could not make Canada right by Act of Parliament, and if ever two men were vindicated they have l)een vindicated bj' what has taken ])lace since. But, 8ir, the Conserva- tive orators who stumped the province of Ontario at that time told you that Hir John Macdonald had A MAGIC WAND IX HIS HAND, and that by simply wa 'ing it there would spring from ground the manufactories that would cover Ontario and give work to our sons who were seeking work on the other side of the line. Allow me to recall on this occasion the words that were then spoken. Sir Johu spoke in many places in that year, but the burden of AT OAKVIILK IN IS,^^ 44' > liig soiij^ waa tlio same cvcrywlicrc, and you may irnaf^iiH! what it was by shhh' words he i^iiDUt' iiol very far from here, at Parkdalc lie said ; — Uri'f \vi' 1110, iiot (inly <untMinL; di-pics.^inn in i-veiy tni.ii' iiml industry, Imt oui' ik'0]i1c ;iii' Icjiviij^ tli.- i-ouiitiy tn scfk <Mii]» oyuii'iit ill till' mills aiiil iiiaiiiitru'loi ifs <it' tin- I'liiti'il Sliti's. Was It not a I'lyin;: slianio that tliiiiij;li tlii' civiiitiy liiid !i I'lTtilt' soil, iilit'althy ('liiiia("',ii stroiij.' and well .tluKii'-l jioopic anil ;.'ood laws, .'iiM 1,(1(1(1 of our own people should liave tii'ossi'il oiu' !ioy(|i>rs in tliDse years anil taken up their almdi? in the United States heeaiise they could ncitlind (unpln;, uieiit here lor their sUiU and energy and enterprise in eunserjueiicw of the lal-^e policy ot our rulers? Till' rtiiiscrvalivo press t(d! us there is no oxodiis. ]Uit in tlioHe days Sir J'lhii admitted that tiioie wjis jin exodus, and lie stiid it was ti, crime and a .shame. Well, Sir, I iisk : Tf it was a crying ehame in tlmse (hiys that there slumld be live luindred thousand of our fellow-countrymen on the other side of tju; line seeking employment, what shiiU we .say of the men who pretended they could cure that (!vil, and have brought the nundjer uj), not merely to five hundred thousand, btit to a round million ? P>ut, Sir. I do not want to be hard on Sir John or his friends. It is better to be generous when you have them at your mercy. We have the advantage over him now. We can meet him with his own words. And, after all, perhaps he believed that he could, indeed, with the National Policy, which he was about to put on the statute book, provide a remedy for you. For, you know, there have been such instances in history — instances of men who, by stating a false proposition and repeating it, AT I.AST CONVINCED THEMSELVES that it was true. You remember the story of old George the Fourth. He was fond of doiming mili- tary clothes, though he never smelt the powder of the 29 -^'■-'lii *i* 4m srKE(H field ofliiittU". After the l);ittle of Waterloo, heoum- iMciiced to fay that he was i)r('SPiit,aiul lif kept rei)eat- ing it until at last he convineed himself that it was true. And not only did he convince himself tliat he was at the hattlc of Waterloo, hut he >i;avo examples of his dushin;,' conduct while there. On one occasion lie put the hulsf of Wellinjrion in a very awkward l)redicament. The King spoke to a person on one occasion of havinfr heen at the Iwittle, ami the person to whom he related the story did not seem wholly convinced of the truth of it. So the King turned for conlirraation of his statement to the l)uke of Wel- lington and said : '• Ts it not true, Arthur, that F wan present at the hattle of Waterloo ? " lUit the great Duke was eiiual to the occasion. Fie did not cither admit or deny the King's statement, I>ut answered : ■• F have often heard Y(jur >Faierity .-"ay so, " Or you do not know, perhaps, the story of the thefdogioal student who was fond of argument. ()ne day, while walking with a tellow .-student, he wanted to have an argum(!nt on Christianity and infidelity. •' What is the use of attempting that ? " said his iViend, " for wo are agreed on that point, we are hoth Christians." Hut he still insisted and told his friend to argue for Christ- ianitv, while he him.-elf would argue for infidelity. And so he coinmenced to argue and he argucil fi\ well that he argued himself into infiilelity. Well, F won't say that Sir John AFacdonald wanted to humhug any- body, hut IF HE nin IIIMIUU ANYBODY into the belief that he could cure the emigration evil by the National F'olicy, T believe, in all charity, he began by humbugging himself. Now ten years liave i)as8ed since that day, and I ask of all those who in those days believed indeed that the Fiiberals were Hies on the wheel, what has been the result of the National Policy ? INFen believed that Sir John could indeed create prosperity by act of Parlianjent in the AT OAKNII.I.K IN ISSS 4:)l the form uf a |inH(;y of protection. We had an cxiiniiile a yoar or go altcrwiirda, in ISSO. One of liis staunrli followers, Mr. Rvifus StopluniHun, wlm waa int-niiier for Kent and who in now — well I dturt know what he i8 now, l)Ut at the last report he was drawing ><'). ()()(» ii year out of the Canadian e.X('he<iuer for inspecting eoloni/.ation conipanies in the North-West tliat do not exist, — .Mr. Itufus Stephenson said in iSSd. speak- ing somewhere in We.stern Canada ; •• I am going to vote for the (iovernnient that has raised the i)rice of Wiieat from 7") et-nts a hu.shel to -SI. Id." Well, as I paid a moment ago, Mr. Stephenson is n(» longer in the political arena. If he wa.s we ndght ask liini : — Are your friends ilies on the wheel ? Tliey raised the price of wheat at (»ne time, it a|)pear3, from 7") cents to Sl.-Hi. Why don't they exert their power to-day ? Why (h>n't they hring up the price of wheat again ? This is the reduction ail fihsiinluin which shows the liollownes.? of the pretensions and jiromises which were made to you ten years ago. I hlame no one, .Mr. Chairman, for having believed those promises. I?ut, as I lilanie no one for having y>elieved Uiem, he wouUl he entitled to blame who, upon lliis occasion, would not rise superior to party claims, and express the opi- nion which must Ite in his breast, that their policy has been a failure and we must have a new departure. Sir, what must he the new departure? Sir Richard Cartwright indicated it during last session. We have tried the policy of restriction and it has failed, let us try the policy of exj)ansion. The policy propounded by Sir Richard Castwright is that we should have unrestricted reciprocity with the sixty .millions of raen on the other side of the line. That policy is that we should open as wide as we can open all' the avenues of trade between the two nations. Sir, EXPKRIENCE 19 THE liiST OK ALL TIIKOIIY. When we tried the National Policy ten j'ears ago Ave had no experience, and some might assume tiiat m ■■If.; . .•In.*-.- ' W^^^^M 1 H 1 1 t ■ 1 1 M 'I'm' J.' 4r)'2 SI'KKCIl thoso ])rnphrcies then iiiiulo would jimvo trno. Tlut Avc liiivt' tried it lor leii yeurs i'.iid we iiiivo loiiiid it ■\Viiiitiiig. Not HO, howt'vrr, with reciprocity. Wc; Iviiovv wluit reciprocity <'tiii do, for w<! Uiiow what re- ciprocity hiif* (h)iie ill the past. We have had reci- procity hel'ore, not uii reatricte(l l)Ut reMtri<'ted reci- procity, coiilincd only to natiuul products. And lliero 13 not one man in thin audience who will not admit that the Iv.rlve ycarH of the Keciprocily Treaty were the ^'ohh'ii era ol' the Canadian faruicr. Well, what re.'<tri(;led reciprocity dicl in the past it can do now. ft is iriie that yon are told that recii)ro(ity. confined as it was to ,sorn«i natural [irodui'ts.inade Ix'lter tinie.s. and what it diil hofore it niu-t do to-day. Iveincnilior whnt you wore told ten ycirn w^n. Ten years a;_fo you were told that the National I'olicy wouhl ^'iv(; you a local market ;that there would he in tlie miil.st of you manufactories with thousands of artisans who would consume evorythin<r that would liei^rown hy farmers , that the farmers would sell dear evcrytliin^ they had to sell, and huy cheap everylhin;.,' they had to huy. We had then two cities exce(!ding each O.NK III'NDRKI) THOrsAM) l"ol'fI..\TIO.\ — Montreal and Toronto — and we have yet only two cities of over one; hundred thousand i)opulation. On the other side, you liave, in the Nortliern ritates alone, twelve cities of i)oi)ulation exceeding one hundred thousand and comprising in all a populaticm of four millions. There is your local market. You were t(dd by the National Policy men that reciprocity would be of no benefit to tlie farmers, because they would bave to compete with the American farmers in their own market, and they produce the same things that our farmers do. That is true; they do produce the same things, and the argument can be met in many Avays. But I have better than argunient to offer you. I did not come here — it may be presuinj^tious in me to say it, but I make it a rule to speak my own mind — li J IlL /'f Al oAKVll.I.K r.N ISSS •>■> til jiiMri'H-' my iVllow- fiilnTftls. ft is tlic ('ons*jrvu- tivc.-J I want tu aildrt's-*. ri'tlifv would talic it witli(tiit ofTciicf. I W'.ulil ..lay it is tin- Hiniicis [ want to ('(m- vf'it. As I want lo iul Ircss myself ti) tlif siuiwiH, \ will y:ive tliciii an aiilli'irily that I'ltlicm will he mort* than till' law ami tin' |»r(i|)h('t-<. I will </\v(' thfm iho words 1)1' the <,'rcat a|ti).stl«' hinHclf. Sir Julm M.k;- donald. and they will I)t' olnluratc indccil il'th-'y lind nlijcctiiui to what licsiiys. In iMin.ni; were i>n tin; (ivc i>l'an oleotion. Sir .luhn went around Ontario and spoke in many |i!:n<'s. Horc is somcthin^x that he saiil at Hiimilton. These arc his very words, and I {■onimend then to my fellow countrymen of the Con- servative |ier!»uasioii : — ( Mil' fjiii'at eaiHi' ol the )iii-<|ierity of tlie tUriU'T in ('pp.'r < 'aiKi'la is tlie !{"('i|iroi'ity Trenty ml tin- conseiiui'iit inter- eliaiij^e ol'agriciiltiiriil ciMimiolitic^ and raw materials, lie lia> ru'iti'l a aiarUet where tiiore was iioin- al all Jiel'ore lor liiiii. Those are pretty coiiclusive words. We hiar it said now hy .some (iJHcijilo.s of Sir Joim that rcciitro- city would \h) a had tiling he<'ausc we ))roduc(' the famo kind of ^oods that are produi'cd on the otlior side of the line. T want you to answer them Wiril TIIKSK WoliD.S o|- sll! .lolix. i\gnin, speaking at the other end of the province, at Caledonia, he said the same year: — If llu'ie is one tneii'-in.' ol'lale d.ito whieli lieiielits tliB country inoro than atintlier it is the Keciprocity 'I'reaty ne^^ot- iatcd indued liy the lliiicks (lovernineiit, hut peri'octe.l under Sir .Mian's. You know that wiioi'eas wheat usi-d to pay 'J'* cents a hushel to entcM" the IVontiers ol' the I'niti'd St'ites, it now ,'j;oes in free, and ev.'ry tanner here is 20 cents a liu-<he| licher lor that niea-ure. Instead of heinu icept out of the I'nitod .■States, anil heiiij^ ohiiired to go to .NFontrcal to sell ins produce, he has tiow the clioico of two markets — ho li;is t\M> strnigs to his bow — no Collector of Cusiom.s stands hetwoeii him and tho .^m. irrrr i ■ i n 45-1 SPEKCII New En.nliiiiil niaiiufactiuvr or bet\voi'ii liiin uikI tlio Britisli consuinor. Who says that ? Not The Cloln'. Sir John himself PiivH that. TiiMtoad of bf'iiifr kept out of the Uiiiti'd tState.s and l)Ping ohliffod to <f() to .Montr(>al to sell hi3 {»roduco, as it is now, tlie Canadian farmer lias the cii'>iee of two markets. He lias t\v(» strings to his how. No Customs oflicer stiinds hetwecii him and the New Eiif^laiid manufacturer and the liritish consumer. That is tlie very policy to which we wish to revert. Tliat was the jxilicy that twenty years a.iro made the farmer twenty cents richer ujioii every bushel he h;id to sell. That laiiiruatre is eloi|U(>nt iMiouuli. hut there is somclhiiij^ still nmre elo(inent — the li;_Mires of tin; trade which was done under tlio IvHciprocity Treaty. In IS');^ a."* vou know, our trade with llm I'liited l^tatcs —that was before the treaty— was only S'Jl.OOO.dOO. Tn lS(i(;. the last y(>ai- of tlie treaty, tliat trade had in(>reased to S.Sl.niHi.dOd. an increase of .Siio.dltii.OUO. Certainly nothing could be nior(> eloquent than these iiLUires. They show one thin<:; more. They show that the treaty was ad vantai^eous not only to the Canadians, but al-^o to our .\merican nei_L;-!ibi)Ui's. It was, as every bariraiii should be, MiriAiiv .\i)\ A.\r \(,Kor>. Still the treaty was re}»(Mlcd, much to the reirret of the Canadian peojiI(> It was repealed by our nei;.;li- bouts to the south, and for what reason? Not becjuise it was not advantajxeous ; there was not a public man in the United Slates who ev(M- pretended that tln^ trenty was not a(-lvanta>reous to tlu; .\merican people, r.ut it was repealed, I am sorry to say, from political reasons, on account uftiie unfriendly tone of (Jreat Uritain and Canada too, at tli(> tiirn^ of the trreat stru<i;ule which the Ajiiericans had to wajze for the jireservation of their national unity. It was when the irrcat (.lemocratic iiati(Jii to the south of u.s wtus AT OAKVH.I.E IN ISSS 450 those (Usluius olliccrs who take so much, as Sir .lohii iMacdiUKihl says, I'loiu the ( 'aiuidinii f.iniifr. Why i.-j it that mir ( hivi'i'iiiin'iit -why in it that lli(> (loviTiiiiii'iit di' Sir Jnhii (hi imt <;iv'' tlu' aiHwcr to IliOHc (lUcstioiis '.' Why (hi tlicy imt a(h>ltt the imlicy suggested hy Sir Uicliard < 'ai I w liLdit the pDlicy ot" unrestricted rccijuocity '.'They have ;iivcn tlie reason more tiiaii once, and the reason they iiave li'iveii is this : That nnicstricted reciiuo, ity wouhl not he '•<> } 4oG SrEKCH FAVOIiAIil.K TO TIIK MANriAiTIKKH. ^1 . .'*r i^i^ ■Si'; Now, as you ;ur no doulit nwnrc, a trcut / of iinro- strictcd reciprocity would include natunil productf". and according to the laiiL'ua^e i>\' Sir John, which I have (|Uoted, tlnit would he to the advantatre of the larnierp. lUit at the ?aini' linic they say that while tills ]i(di<y would h(> to the a<lv:n)ta.i;'e ot th(> farnuM'S it would bo iniurious to the nnnuil'acturcr. ' mji rv well. T take i^ifluc upon tliat gr(nind with them. If that pidicy wliich we propose, it' tlie i>olicy of unrestricted reciprocity wouhl not he e([nally t'avor'al'le to the manufacturer and tlu; larmer. it a choice ha-? to he made hetween the nianul'actur(>r on the one hand and tlu^ farmer on the other, my choice is made. I ha\'o stated it elsewhere and T will .■'tateit .'i^'ain. My choice is made, and T stand with the ujore numerous (lass, with the farmers, with that class which numl)erH at least aeventy-ilve ])er cent, of our own peopl(>. Hut, at the sauH' time. 1 do not admit at all that the policy Avhich we propost! would he injui'ious to the manu- facturers. We have some inanui'actui'es to-day. W'hv uive w e not more ? The reason is ohvious : WE 11, wis NOT A MAI;KKT fitr those which exist tilready. V(Ui are told that it would he injurious to the uKUUifacturer that the ])olicy of expau.sion which we rec()mmeu<l should he adopted. Tarn not a tnauufactun>r ; hut T can see, as any man of comnH>n sense can see. that the greatest po,-sihle obstacle to the .success of manufactures is the hick of ni ark els. lo-di IV ^'ou have s(Mne manufactures in C'amida -how manv of them are working at their (Ca- pacity ? What we w ant, .Mr. Chaiinian, is a nnirket n)t only for the farmers, but for the manufacturers as well. There are wealthy manufacturers who under- Rtaiul this and who will some time or other give their views to the Canadian public ; therelore I say when th(^ (iovernment allege that recii)rocity would rm- .> i)"-'i AT OAK VI ME IN 188S 457 inju'-n inannfaotxues. tliey do not know tlio views of iiiiu .t'actuicrs ; iiioic tlinn that, tlip ( inveniincnt dn not know their own minds. Thi^i is jn't'tty loud talkinic, you will nay. \\'t'll. 1 kiiDW wherrdl' 1 sneak when I say that the (ioveriiiuent upun this ([tiestinn of unrestricted reciprncit)' do nut know their own minds. We ha<1 an illustration oT tlii.'^ truth last sos- si(Ui. We h;ive !i|iiin our statute hnok what is known as a. statutory' otfer.w herehy we said to the .Viueriean:^ t}iat wlienevei- they would [lUt upon tlie tree list eer- tain arti(des i^xjiorted by us we would tlo tlie same v.ith the same artii'li's when eN|)orl('d hy them and im- ported into (.'ana(hi. Well the Americans ,-ome lime a^fo ]tut upon tlie free list e«rta.in arti(di;s included in that statutory offer, namely, fruits and seeds, (^ur ( iovernment last N ear v^crc a-l:ed why they ilid not respond to this action of the American (lovernment and ptit tVuits and seed-- njion our free list also. Sir .lohn's answer to Sir Ilichard Cartwri^ht and to Mr. Milcliell was that tho'^e ailicles vould not he jmt on the fret! list hecause smdi a jiolicy would injure the Canadian seedsmen and fruit-growers. He said : I rc')iuiliatt' the stateiucDt that it is ,nny <preac)i of I'jiilii ou the part of Ciiiifiilian (Jdveininent : and furtliei', yiv. Sjie.iivcr, I :-;iy that tiici'e have heen loiireseiitatinn-i iiiaih' on lieh;ilfof thf .\iiii'i scan si'cdsiucM <h'sirin,L' tliat this 'should he <• uried out : hiU we know tlieiv ari' sceilsmcii in Canada also, and we iia\e to coirsi<lrr their iiit(Me.sts as well as tho>" of American <iM'(lsnien, and in th<' interest.s of Caiiadi.an .•^vcii-.iaen we have not put scecls upon th<' free list. .Mr. Thnmpson, the Minist.'r of .Tustice, went further and said that in his judLrimMit it w uild he treason to i)ut those articles on the free list. lUit what followed ? .\fter such statem>'nts had been minle on the Hour o|' the Iluuse. I'li'TiciiN n.w- ii.\i' .Not i'.\»i:ii when Sir John [Uit upon the free list I'ruits andseeils, 45S SPEKCri I t^ although there wore Canadian seedsmen upon tliis side of the line. Well, Sir,wlien wefounii such a change between the words ofthe (roverninent and their ai'tion, Sir Richard Cartwright and Mr. Mitchell took the Governuient to ta.sk and asked them what wtM'c the reasons which induced them to change their policy. Well, there was a scene in the House. .Sir Hichard (lartwright tried his host to get an answer from the (jovernrnent, hut never an answer could be got. Is it too much t« say, then, that they do not know their own mind on this (Question? T hope, if we cannot get recii)ro(;ity in liulk. that we may get it piecemeal anil in detail. But this agitation which we have (;om- mcnced. T am glad to say, has ;ilrcady {>roducod very remaricahle fruits. Il has m ide the National Policy nien very loyal, very loyal indeed. Well, f never thought it very loyal to ICnghuid to adopt the National Policy, which was calculated toe.vcludo British manufactures from our own territory. lUil I speak my own mind 11)1011 this aho. I (In not Idame the Conservalive.s for having acted that way. I believe that loyalty, like eharify, begiiiis at home and if th<>y believed that it was in till.' interest of ( 'anadians generally that the National I'olicy should he put u[)onth(i statute book, they diii right to act as they did. Hut now they need not he so very sensitive, after having arted towards I'higland as they did. Ihit I know sonietliingof them. I rt;ad the pi'ints of Ontario and I know that every day these people v, ee|) tears hecause they feel that if uniestricled reci|)roiity is adnpti'd it must hiad us into anne.\.atii)n. Well, 1 have only this to .say : Jt i.-! a great argument in favor of unrestricted recipro- city, because, if il means anything at all, it means that thr change will Ue so advantageous to the people that they will want to go into the still idoscr union with till' United States. Ihit 1 have this to sav to the Nat loiial I olicv men: IF TMKV WIIJ, .XNsWKi; Koi; TU KM-Kl.VKS, . v^ I will answer for the lleformers, and the tirits. If AT OAKVILI IC IN 1SS8 459 thoy will answer for their allegiance T will aiiswcM- for it that there is not a Cirit who will he seduced from his alleiriance to the Queen hy any Yank(!e hlandish- nients that we can have. Well, as they started upon the loyalty line, they could not but carry it to extra- ordinary length. Von know it never rainn, hut it ]it)Urs. The rno!>ient they struck the line of loyalty they l)eeaine very, very loyal. They want to have no recij)rocity with the I'nited States, tht; great natiou to the south of us. for fear we might he seiiuced from our allegiance to the country. But they are ready, they say, for reciprocity with Great Britain. I have only tills to say. 1 say it openly : T say it upon niy own res])onsil'ility, and T helieve T can speak as well lor the Liberal party; if rei'iprocity with Great Britain is i)racticable, T am in favor of it. But Britain is o,0(H) miles away, and the Americans are just to the south of us. They are our near neighbors, there is not a natural hairier belwccii vi-^. If Jjritain were Avhere the United ^^tate3 is, i would goat once for reciprocity with (ii(>at Hiitaiii. lUit. Sir. it is very well to 1)6 sentimental, but. after all, sentiment is not business. Tt' T go to one of these National Policy men and want to Imy a dollar's worth of cotton and tell him 1 am one of Ins fellow-subjects, that T believe in the National Policy, that T am a loyal subject, that 1 am bursting with loyal sentiment and usk liim it he will take that for his i>ay. Mm ''4 'i IIK WII I, KKirsK MK. ]Uit if T oflV-r him a Yaiikee dolhir. he will take it just as readily as liritish cash. Tlu'rcfovc it i'^ not enough to talk sciilinicnt. W'e must talk luHiness. The I'nited States isju^itat the end ol' my lianfl. ^Moreover. w(> havp the same tiiritT as it were; we have a protective tariff and f(>r many years to come we must have a high tariff, (ircid Ihitain 1i:h a I-'ree Trade tariff. What can we offer (ireat liritain in exchange if we want to have reciprocitv ? W'e have 4G0 ■I'EECII heard llio statfiiuMit made in tlu? TToupo l^y >[r. Mc- Cartliy and others that perhaps (Ircat J?rit;iin nii;;Iit resort to protection, ini^lil lax foroii^n jiroduets and exempt Ca,na(hi. \Vd\. il' thi'? were otlVred, f sav I am re;i(|\' or It. If we call iier.-'.iado tlie i"]n<i;lish i)eoj»h' tn put import taxe^? upon th" prodiietions of every otiier country i)Ut ('aii;uhi, and to admit the producls (tf Can matla Iree [ in I'avor oftliat. lUU I am atVaid It wil aoine years het'ore we can persuaile tin.' Uritish workman to ta\ hi:^ liread. even to ohlitre his Canadian hrollier. iUil f will not dismiss that idea aItof!;ether. I will tell you what I helieve. I do nut helieve it to he impossilih; that tliere should he a (.■K)3er Dolilieal union lietween (ireat Britain and that U Canada. I do not helieve it dt he imjio^sil ii(( ther the e sno .Vn'do- uld 1)0 a. I'ommereial alliance hetweena ixon nations. We know that the An^lo- Saxon race is the <M'(Mt commercial race of the world. It has taken ] )o^.session of the North American con- tin(;at ; it has taken posscs.sion of Australia, of larj^e portions of Africa, of many of the islands of the r'acilic. I Ijelieve a time will come when those British com- munities will lind it to their a.dva.ntatie to have ainotig.st them universal Free Trade. I do not discus.s that a.s a priictical issuer but it is possihle, and it is d(;siraiile; it would he hetter not only for tho.se coun- tries, hut for the whole human race. And I say that if anythinu; is calculated to hriuij ahout that result, it is the estahlishnumt of intimate commercial relations hetweeu the .i;reat Knglish speaking peoples of this continent. I HKl.lKVK IX COM-KDKRATIO.N. [ lielieve it has removed many of the troubles winch grew up Ixitween Up}ter and Lower Canada. 1 believo that whatever a man's origin may hejie has the right to say that ho is a Canadian above all things. Now, to all those who oppose unrestricted reci- nmx AT (lAKVII.I.K IN ISSS 461 jirocity, liecause they ))eli('ve it would lead to annexa- tion, [ say, liavt; sunio faith in human nature, have Hdine faitii in the better in.-itincts of tiie humtin iieart, tiUHt the peoph". don't !)e!ieve that evil will nprin^ from good, that wronj; will sjtrin;^ from right. Hclieve on the contrary that right will produce right. Tru?t thcpooploof thif< rountry. Tf you lK>licvo the prin- cijih- of unrestricted reciprocity is wrong, tight it, it i.s your duty. l>ui, if you hcjicve it i.s right, do n<it oppose it for fear it should produce evil. F .say again, have faith in the people. Ilemeniher the struggle.-^ wo had for ri'>>ponHiide government tifty years ago. There were men in thone day.s who helieveil that responsi- Ide ir')V(>rnnient would mean tlie end of iiritish con- ncc tion on this continent. Jhit there wa.-; a man who had no nuch fear, and that man was Lord IClgin. He cani(>d out his ideas to the end. lie left nothing undone that could he done. The result has heen, not wiiut was antif;ipated hy those men, hut the result his heen to link Canada more closely to Great i'ritain. In the same manner, I say, let us repeat the same experience. Lord Elgin did more. There was at the time a powerful annexation agitation. These men who afterwards claimed to })e so loyal, the Tories of the Tories, were signing annexation manifestoes. What did Lord Elgin d(j ? Did he attempt to prevent intercourse hetween the United States and Canada ? On the contrary lie o])ened wide the doors to trade ])etween the two countries, and the result was that the annexation agitation disappeared like a chmd before the sun. T anticipate the same result. T anti- cipate that the movement which we inaugurate to-day and which will triumph as sure as day succeeds to night, instead of being a danger to Confederation, will he the means of bringing us nearer the goal, which we •Started out twenty-one years ago to reach. Speaking as I do now, I beg to repeat that I do not address myself to the Liberals only. I address myself r 4r,2 SPEECH AT OAKVH.T.E I\ 1888 ; ; 1 ' i'ji' ■1 J r. . . TO THE CONSEllVATIVES AS WEF.L. T want thorn to txiihUt over these facts, and if they can do ho, to inllucnct' Sir John Mncdonahl and his Govern luent to tiike up the movement. I phnlj^o my- self that we will give them all the help we can. T am very sure it will Ik; hard to ('(mviiKie the Conserva- tive (.(overnnieut of to-day. Jiut we know. Sir Richard ('artwright, who is the father of the movement, knows that no great reform has been carried without a fear- ful struggle. We know that no great reform ha.s been carried without .struggles, without defeats. We are prepared for those struggles. When Sir liichard Cartwright l)roposed his resolution last session he knew that it would he defeated. He will renew it next session, and he knows it will be defeated then ; he will renew it tin; .session after that, and he knows it will be de- feat(!d ; he will renew it again and again, but in the meantime there will be a general election, and we believe the result of that electi<in will be the return of a majority, whether Couservative.s or Reformers, pledged to support a treaty of unrestricted recipro- city between Canada and the United States. This is the policy which we have to phice before the people. There are other issues, there are other questions, but every other (luesticni must take a back seat and leave the lirst place to unrestricted reciprocity. This is the cry. This is the reform which we press not only upon the peoi)le of Ontario, but especially upon the people of Halton, with the hope that the people of Halton will give nn uncertain answer, but such an answer as will be a victory for the principles of the Liberal party. REJECTION OF THE TREATY BY THE SENATE AT WASHINGTON PRESIDENT CI.EVEI.ANir.S MKSSACE WHO WAS HE.«V()NSIBI,E KOH THE TIIKEAT Ol' RETAMATION ? Tlie following extract from the s|ieech deliverod at St. 'riiomas (< >nt.) on tin- liTtii August, ISSS, sums up in a few words the i.iberal leader's opmion on the fisheries' question, as it presented itself, after the complete check received by tlie negotiations, which had ilragged their slow ami difheult length throughout the preceiling winter. Exceptional importance was given to these declarations by the way in which the Tory jiress denounced Mr. Laurier as the greatest traitor in the country, because he had dared to trace up to the Canadian fiovernment tilt' original responsibility for all the unfortunate complications : The American Senate has refused to ratify tlie treaty ueguciateil between the American and Hriti.sh plenipotentiaries in Washington in last December fur the settlement of the disputes between the two coun- tries arising ont of the treaty of ISIS. By tlie fact that the treaty is rejected, the whole (juestion is re- 11,, rr Ll' 4i;-»; f\%i> '-■ ■ I r V? : 464 SPEICCU opt-ncil anew, tliP whol" di-ipiito is noiiiiii;:; Itaclv to the rturl'iuic. all the liittcrnc-fs is aj^f.-iin cdiuiiig to tlu^ front, is n;j;uiii revived. I're.sident ('h^vchiDd, ac'tinfjr upon what he conceived to he the duty ini|io.-Jc(| u|)on III Ml iiy the American Senate, ankf itower to retaliate by susixauiiui:' thfi l)ondinj; Hysteni. Thin would he a very seriou-i event, which, il'it came, would strike the city of St. Thomas as nnn'h and perhaps more than iiny other portion of tlic^ l>'uninion, bccau.se it is njade what it is largely by the lines of riiihvay which conio here from the T'niled Slates. |-!ut after all we are men and liritish men. We shall not whine even if the American ))eo[)le deem it advisable — I do not say tlH;ir duty — fo take such a course, such an unfriendly course. No doubt some parties will ^ui^cr in Canada, but no doubt, like British men. it is our duty to find elsewhere what we W()uld loae. The president only auks to retaliate. \\'hy retaliate? Why, sir, because in his jnd;;oment he would be <N)mpel!ed to do so by the unl'riendly action of the Canadian tiovernmont. If we are met with tliis state of things with which we a;e threatened, it is due to tlie vicious policy of the Canadian (iovernment in tlie administration of tin? rights secured to us by the treaty of 1818. If tire Canadian Ciovernment liad followed a more friendly course,there would not have been an uniViendly feeling to-day. The United States would never have con- tested those rights, if the rights had been asserted in a friendly manner. It was not so. Those rights ha<l been asserted in a harsh manner. Time and again in the year 1885 American, fishermen were arrested for trivial ofTences. Nothing, air, could be more offensive to those people when they came to tlie British port and found themselves arrested, their vessels detained for the simple violation of Customs laws, which, in all pro- bability, they did not know. It is no wonder that their hearts were bitter and that they made complaint at Washington. If, on the contrary, the Canadian Government had administered our laws as they con- IP m^-H mil'- ^M Wm} Hft'Ljak' AT ST. TIIOMAH (oNT.) 4G )0 reived tlicin under tlio troaty, in a fiiinidly luauncr, there cnnid not liave taken place what has taken place. We are threatened witli the i)i)s.sihility that our carryint; trade may he taken away from uh, jind Ave hear the Ministerial prefs from one end of the eountry to the other in a frantic passsion on account ot" the action taken by the American Government. They Hay it is a lo«.s. Tt'the earryinj:; trade in such II loss to the country, if the carrying; trade is such an advantage to the country, is not tli't a mo.«t potent arjzument that the most unrestricted reciprocity ot' trade would bo ot' very <:rcat ailvanta<^e to' the country? If the c(juntry f,'ained fo mucli by simply carrying goods from om^ part of the United States to another or from one jiart of the United States to C'anada, what would not be the gain to the country if we could Ix; admitte<l without obstruction to the American trade? Sir, I say this— and this is a fact to which I Call the attention of my fellow-countrymen to-day — it is high time we should reverse the p(dicy we have been following towards the United States for the past "2") years. For the past ^2~^ years it has not beciU altogether hostile to the Unit"'d States, but it has never been altogether friendly. Tl has not been such as to bind us to those on the other side of t])e line, who speak the same language and have the same ability with us. Wlien they were in the great struggle which they *had to undergo some twenty years ago. to pre3(>rve the unity of the nation, when tlu-y were engaued in that most expensive war which lasted four years and wdiich taxed all their energies arid courage and whi(di cost them millions of lives, what sympathy did they receive from their brothers in England or in Canada? Not the slightest. Sir, I am ashamed to say for my country, for the civilization of the world, wlien the Americans were engaged in such a struggle this civil- ized world did not rise to sustain them with the hand of friendship. Of those who t'avored the cause of the North and championed that of freedom, in Knglaud 30 ril 'I .-, 400 MKKcn if-': mm. ll 1 ft' ' \\l tlif nan. 03 of .T(»hn Hriffht nnd Richiird Cobden woio iiliout tl e I'uly nanu'H ill tliat day, ever iti tlm I'mo- niost ranks of tivilization and frtodoin, openly to da- clarn for frocdoni. and in this country ainon^ tlio pul)lic mm of that day there was one luaii and t»idy one man who was always foremost in the ranks of free(h)m, who openly declar<;d his sympathy with tho North — (ieorfrc! Ihown. Is it any wonder, then, when this is all the syiepathy they met wilh — that when tho victories of the South were reported lht'r(! was syiu- jiathy throu^iiiout the country, iind qvcu us I am told in the I>e},dslature of ( 'anada is it any wonder that the^c men's hearts v cro ciuhittereii, and when th"y came to tins treaty they said: "We will nn lonj^'cr have those trade relatione''? Did w(! at that time enter into anything' like Iriendly relations with I hem? Sir, 1 remt'miier a}i:ain in the days of 1S78 we adopted another p( licy. the hra|_'paih)eio policy. Wt! were told hy Sir ("harlcs Tup[ier that tht^ (iovernment would tind the way to compel the Yankees to j^rant reciprocity. What did Sir Charles Tupper say in Nova Scotia and New Brunswick and in the House; of Commons? lie sai<l that wi; would com{)(;l the United States to jiive us recijirocity. Ctinada is tlie land of my liirth, of my h)ve; Conada is the land of my heart, and it is enouL!;h for me. lint it is not ecjual to the United States in extent , it has not ev(n five million people and the Americans have a population of sixty millions; and to say, as was said hy the ('onservative leaders at that time, that we could conii)el that great nation to come down to their knees and to force them to give us what they have not been willing to give us Bo far, was simply the greatest piece of braggadocdo that has been enacted within my lifetime. Again what took place? We had disputes with them on that treaty of 1818 with regard to the fishericB. Instead of adopting a friendly attitude, the Government did everything to nnnoy them. Is it any wonder, then, that they have been refusing to maintain those friendly relations which AT >^V. THOMAS (((NT.) 467 would b(3 to their intorostrt iviul our intorcsts? At;iiin, T Hiiy it is lii^li tiiiu^ wo reversed our policy towartU the United SliiteH. Alter all, blood is thicker (hiiii water. Those who live on the other side ol" the lino (•nine t'roin the i'riti'di Fsles, as most of us do. Those who live oil the other ^-ide of the line have the saiiio literature and the same lan><uii<,'e. Tlie tinu! has como when there should he closer relation-', fict us remain as we are jiolitically, hut let us a^rec; that it wouhl lio for their ixinelit and for our henelit that there sliould h(> no (histonia hnv.s,l)Ut tliat a'o hIiouM i,'.\chanij;e our l)roduci' from one sid(! of the line to the other. This is tli(! policy (jftho Lilieral party. For my part, [ helicve that wo look no louf^or on them with jealousy, that we are j;lud of their success, that we are sinctro iVicnds and lirothers. and that we wouhl have no dini'.'ulty in arriving at the ohject we have in view. f'-i't; I (lUld city, nada r.ut t has hiive ls was at we their ii r -rf, wm-> i«^ (» M !l' f H ii Pi I i^w EI ' rr I? Id CANADA'S COMMERCIAL IXTERCOURSE WITH THE UNITED STATES COMIM.ETl-: VIEW OF THE WHOLE QUESTIOX n\i {HOUSE OF COMMONS) SiTTi. ui' 2Gth February, 1SS9 Mu. Speaker, I now rise for the i)urpose of calling the attention of the House to the (juestion of the Fisheries, and to the position in which the relations between Canada and the United States stand with reference to this question. I submit at once, and it is a proposition to which no dissent will, I am sure, be offered, that there is not at this moment a more important ques- tion to Canada ; and I submit at once also, that it is urgent that ujiun this (question the Government and Parliament should ejjeak i)romptly and with no uncertain sound. The only reference made to this subject by the Government at all since the opening of the session was the paragraph contained in Hia Excellency's Speech to the effect that since the Wash- ington Treaty had not been ratified by the Americaa nw i" 1''^' w. ,i ■■.■.;i w- ■■:: J T.-r -*;•;.-■-■■ -.,-.„ 470 SPEECH Senate, nothing remained for Canada to do but to continue to exercise her rights as prescril)ed by THE CONVENTION OF 1818, until some satiai'actory adjustment was arrived at by treaty between the two nations. In the early days of the Fcssion, the lionorable gentleman who represents the counties of Richmond and Wolfe (Mr. Ives) gave notice ol' a motion which was intimately connected ■with that subject. One would have exjiected that the Government would have availed themselves of the oi)p()rtunity thus afforded them, to exi)0se fully and minutely to the ITou.^e the course they intended to follow and the policy at which they had arrived. Jiut, Avhen this motion was called, it was jjostponed once, twice, three times, four times and five times, and every time at the request of the Government. A few diiys later, when my lionorable friend from Queen's. Trince lildward Island, (Mr. Davies). put the question to the Government whether they intended to con- tinue or not the vwdus vivrnih\ the answer lie received was the convenient, ever at hand, always serviceable answer :'' under consideration ." It must then have become evident to every man in the House that the Government, upon this question, had no jjolicy to offer, that they hold, as they have held of yore upon that and many other (juestions, an irresolute, vacillat- ing, halting and hesitating ptdicy, and that they will continue such jiolicy until the time for deliberation will be passed, until the time for action will well nigh liave passed away, until every action, even if taken in the right direction, will 1)e taken too late and prob- ably renuiin barren of result, ))owerless, j)erhaps, to rejiair the ])ossibly irreparable injuries that may have been done in the meantime. Under such circum- Btances, when the Government refuse to rise equal to the duty of the hour, when they refuse to discharge the duties which are incumbent upon them, it becomes •»v n\ THE Fr-^IIERY QrE-^TION 471 THE nCTV <)!■• TirE oim-ositiox to come to the front, to clear the way. and to sliow t he Government wliat is the duty of the hour and wliat is tlie rourse which phouhl he foHowed in the inter- est of the country at hirge. Wore this a j)urely do- mestic question, the temptation would be jireat, per- hai)3, to fohl our arms and to wait and ])rofit by the ever-increasing enibarrassement of th(; Crovernment ; but the issues are *oo preat, the consefiuences are of too serious a character, and it is hotter, Ity far, to set aside all party tactics. Sir . loll n A Macdonnld: — Hear, hear! Mr. Laurior : — Yes, bettor by far to lose all party advanta<ie and to jtoint out at onoe where the wrong is and where possibly may be obtained the remedy. AVhat is the situation? At this moment there is an Act. which is the law of the noighborinj;^ republic, whereliy at any moment the President of the United State=< is authorized to close to our ships all entry to American ])orts. nay, more, to prevent importations into the United States of any goods coming from Canada; and when we consider the fact that the ex- ports last year of goods from Canada to tlie Unitc^d Stiitos ex(:oedo<l the sum of forty million dollars, we have the evidence at once of tlio mngnitude of the ])ossible evils which may await C'anada, should such a ])olicy he put in force. This is the situation as it now exists. Here are the two priufipal ofT-iprings of that great mother of nations, England, standing side hy side, with every inducement of blood, of common origin and of a common history extending back into ages, to stand together on terms of the most intimate friendship, yet with their relations having reached such a degree of bitterno'JS and hostility that at any moment we may have commercial war. A few days ago, in another debate, the opinion was (juoted of an lionorable gentleman who occu])ie3 a very high rank in the estimation of his party and country. Sir Charles Tupj)er, to the eftect that the line is very thin which se])arate3 '*i^;^ i !:ti 472 frl'KECII COM.MEUCIAI. \\\n FROM ACTUAI. WAU. His words may again Le quoted as i)crfectly ai'jili- cable to our present position. He said : — We stood I'aco to fiicc witli a bill i»iovi'liii,i: for non-inter- course between the I'liited States and C'anmla. 1 need not tell you Uiat that hiil meant connui'i'cial war. 1 need ii(d tell you that it meant not only th" ordinary suspension ol IViendly leclin.'.: and intefoour.se li('l\ve<'n the t\vo eonntrjes. hut that it involveil nnich more. If that bill had been brc'U,'_'ht into ope- ration by a jirorlamation of the I'residentof the United ."^tate.-, I have no hesitation in saying that v,'o stootl in relation to that great country of eo.umorcial war, and the line is veiy nuiiciw Avhieli !:'(^i>aiiiteft eonmiereial war between the two countiie.s lioiu actual war. Htill, even not goinj^ so I'ar as Sir Charles Tujijicr went on tliat occasion, the fact remains tliat thesitu;i- tion, even if it means nothing else than commercial Avar, is a most deplorable one. Well, I'or that situa- tion I sa}' that the Government of Canada is largely responsible. I do not say solely, but I say largely rcsj)onsible. Justice and fairness C()m])elmeto say, and I say it frankly, that in many things tlie Ciov- ernment of the United States, in their conduct towards Canada, Avere as blameable as the Government of Canada were towards the United States. If I Avere an American and stood on \he floor of Congress. I Avould deem it my duty to say to the American peo- ple how, Avhere, and when their conduct has been Avanting towards ( :'nada in fairness and generosity. But I am a Canadian, and I stand here on the floor of Parliament, and I deem it mA' duty to show to the Government where they have erred, Avhere they have committed wrong, and where in my estimation it ig possible tu undo the Avrong which lias been done. Sir, on this side of the House Ave are of the opinion that, from the moment the American colonies severed their connection with the nntther land, the most satisfactory relations that ever existed between the mother land 1' . "Jf'f^A I' rSi ON THE FISHERY Ql'ESTIOX 473 and the new republic, and between that re]iublic and Canada, were tlie reh-itions wliich were created by the Reciprocitj' Treaty of IS.')-!. This is our liolief, and upon that belief we act. We have made it AN ARTICLE OF OUR PJ^OGHAMME to obtain, if possible, not merely a restoration, but an enlargement of that treaty. We liave madi? it an article of our ])ro>in-aiume to (jonvincc, if possible, the two nations that it would lie for their mutual benefit to restore and to enlar,ti;o the provisions of that treaty. Tliere was a time not yet far distant, when to a largo extent the Conservative i)arty lieid tlie same views. Tlioy made those very views the basis of that system wliich since, by a strange misnomer, has been called IIk; National Policy. The resolution introduced by the right honorable gentlemen, at that time sitting on this side of the House, which has been the gospel of the new doctrine, which has been more than the law and the i)rophet3 to his party, has l»een often quoted to this House, and I might be dispensed i'roni quoting it again, but the memory of honoralde gen- tlemen on that side of the House is S(j short, so defec- tive, so deceptive, and so treacherous, that it may lie an act of charitv again to quote that motion, and to show them the downward career they have followed ever since. The motion, after reciting all the 'oencfits Avhich were to follow from the adopticm of the vague, indistinct policy which was called the National Policy in those days, went on in the following language: — -And moving as it f)UL'lil to do in tlie direction of a I'eci- procity of tiiritts witli our iiei,i:lil)oi>, .so far as the varioil inte- rests of Canaila may <l<>man(l, will ^Tcatly tend to procure fur this country eventually rtoiprocity of traile. That was the aim — a reci})rocity of trade — and wdiat is the result ? Non intercourse and a commercial war. Well, we believe that, as far as the honnrable d'n ■* -I if ! '^ I: i' .' i'^' A "v 474 SPEECH gentleman meant to liave reciprocity of trarlo. he could not have adopted a worse policy than the policy which he adopted to ach'eve the end he had in view. Be this as it may. we on this side of the Ilcjuse still believe that THE GOLDEN EUA of the commerce of (Canada was the twelve years of the Reciprocity Treaty. It was not so onlj' on account of the material prosperity which it assured to the pt^oplo of Canada, l)Ut the treaty was also connected with othe) advantages, the importance of which no one can dany. First of all, it set at rest, for the time heiii;^;. that ever v(^\ing (luostion of tlie fisheries. Then it tended to create and cement a growing amity between Mie r,\ii ])eople.s. It is tlie individual expe- rience, and it 'v the national experience as well, that amity will e- er tV.llow in the path of mutually advan- tageiius trade relations ; ))ut, unfortunately, the grow- ing amity, consociuent upon that treaty, received a rude shock at the time of the civil war in the United States. It is a matter of history that, in that great struggle, when the existence of the republic was tremtjling in the scales of destiny, the pympathies of the Government of Canada, and of a large number of the i)eui)le of (!anada. were not on the side which fought for right, and which eventually triumphed. In this, however, the Government of Canada were not inore remiss than tlie rest of the civilized world, beoausc, in that great struggle between freedom and slaverv, the heart of the civilized world did not beat in favor of the side which was in favor of freedom. Even England, which had only a few years before abolished slavery in her own dominions, abetted the cause of slavery by covert acts, as far as possible, though not by overt acts. It was not that England sym))athized with slavery, or did anything but hold it in al)horrence, but there was something which Eng- land, or at least the governing class of P^ngland, t I mt> < .1' ." ON THE FISHERY QTKSTION 475 (Ireaded still more than elav«?ry, and that was the democratic institutions of which the republic was the embodiment, and which were then on trial. Times move ta&t in our day. The England of 18S9 is uo longer the England of 1801. To-day, Enghuul is ALMOST A DEMOCRATIC C0UNT1{Y. AVe have recently seen a scion of the English aristo- cracy attempting to organize a Tory Democracy. Who, in 18(!1, would have imagined it possible to see those two words combined ? In that respect, the En- gland of 1801 was very much the same as the Phigland of 1775, and the state of feeling in that country in 1775. which led to the rebellion of the American colonies, is spoken of by Mr. (ireen as follows, in his ' History of the English people." Speaking of the tyrannical and despotic measures of the English Ciovernment, which tinnlly drove the colonies into rebellion, he says ; .And hfliiml all thesf grievancos lay an uneasy sense of dread at llu> douiocratic t'orin wliich the governini'ut and sicit'ty of tilt! colonics had taken. Tlie (lovernors sent iVoni England wrote hack wonls of hnnest sui'pi'ise ,ind terror at the levelling principU^s ol' the men about theiu. To statesmen at home the temper of the Colonial Legislatures, theii' jirotesls, their bickerings with the <Tovernor.s and with the I'.oard ni Trade, their constant refusal of supplies when tlieu' remm- gtrances weiv set aside, seemed all but I'epubliean. Those feelings which actuated the English (iitv- ernment and the English Parliament in 1775 were the feelings which actuated the governing classics of England in LSOl. It was the same thing with tin; rest of the civilized world. A French writer said in the early })art of this century, referring to tlic Ame- rican republic :*' just let that child grow out of her ewaddling clothes. •" He prophccied that, before she reached maturity, slie would bo rent asunder by fac- tions, and, when the rebellion broke out, the secret ■ft li:' r (■ 1 ( ■ 476 SPEECH of tlu! sympatliy manifestod lliroughout the civilized •world I'or the (South was that there was a secret hope that the rei)ublic would Ijc so rent an to yo out of exist- ence, and that the fraguieuts would 1)C held as a ■warning that purely democratic institutions could not ho permanently (Mubodied in a government. I can undc-rstand that being the feeling in luiropean society, but T am at a loss to understand how it was that Canada, which in that day, as now, was a purely democratic country, (lid not throw its whole sympathy into the cau:?e fur which Ihe North was then lighting. Kot that we could do anything to In^lii it. Tiie North tjuld light its own battles. J?ut if we had shown anything like Hympathy with the su[)porters of the American Union in their struggles witii reliellion, they would have ^iven us tluMr friendshii) in return, as they have always Iteen ready to do to those who eympathized with them. lUit, linding >,i ^■ A nosrrr.F. i-Eorr.K ox TiiErit roudeii << < H I ""l t ' T U ■ *' ',1 the first thing they did, when they had the opportu- nity, was to cut U'^ oir from the reciprocal trade rela- tions which we had with them. This is the first fault wliich, I think, has been committed by the (iovern- nient of Canada in our relations with our neighbors. With the abolition of the treatry all the old quarrels, all the old difliculties in regard to the fisheries, were renewed. An occasion, however, soon arose which put into the hands of the Government of Canada an opportunity, to some extent, of restoring the facilities of trade between the twt^ nations, and good fellowship at the same time. The close of the war had left many difficulties to be settled between England and the United States, and at last, as we all know, commission- ers were appointed to settle those dilliculties, and amongst the commissioners was one selected fronx Canada, the right honorable gentleman himself. Well, the Fishery question was one of the first and most important that the commission had to deal with. The ON THE FISHERY Ql'F.STION 477 Britisli plenipotentiary ofTered to settle that question by a restoration of the reciprocity treaty. Ijut, as \se con well imagine, tiie I'eolinnf of irrit;ition in the I'nit(>(i States was still such that that offer was re- jected. Sluu'tly afterwards, however, the American ]denipotentiaries offered to settle tlie (juestion l)y oh- tiiininf? access to our fisheries in exchanj^'e of I'ree trade in conl. snlt. fisli, and from the ist of July, 1871, ihe articlt^ of luiid)er. T am sorry to say that this otTer, instead of heing accepted, was asl<ed by the I'ritish i))cnipotentiiiry to he sup])lemente(l with a money considerntion, and that was refused. It is true, however, that the Amer- ican plenipotentiaries liad before tliat time ofTcred to settle that (luestioii by a nidiiey piiyment.They seem- ed to liave l)een willin<rto settle either by money pay- ment or liy trade facilities ; our plenipotentiary on the contrary ofTcred to settle Avith them by ti'ade fa- cilities supplemented l)y a money payment. This was refused, and finally, as wo know, the (piestion was settled for a time by granting to tlu; Americans, for the space of twelve years, access to our fisheries on the pa>nient of a sum of money to be determined by arliritators, and free trade in fish. Well, Sir, I do not hesitate to sny that, in my estimation, of all the ways in which that (piestion could have been settled THE MOST UNF0RTl'.\A.TE was the way which was adopted, the most unfortu- nate was to settle it by a money consideration. It must have been evident that wluu took place since must necessarily take place; that is to say. that as the terms sti])uhited and jiaid forbad expired, the ques- tion would be rc-opimed with increased bitterness. However, thi.s was done, and this was the second fault committed by our Ciovernment in the settlement of that question and the history of our relations with our neighbors. The right honorable gentleman at that time was in power, and shortly afterwards he lost pi 'J i! ■478 Sl'EK.CII I,- t "» ,t,".t ■ ..!•"■.'. _*>,! ■.;■;, m^ Ml m ])()VC''". When my Imnorable friend besido mo wjis in power.tlie right Iionorahle f!;entlemen an<l his friends, ]ifMn</; thou in Oii[)()siti()ii. turned SiiVii<,'oly upon the Adminisitratiuu ; thoy iitt.'ickisd it with ail tlio! means which a perverted ingenuity could devise, and tliey thouglit It lionoral)l(! warfare, in order, if ])o.s9il)le, to iTiaUe a point agaiuHt the (iovcrnmtMit, to open against the Unitcid State.-s a ci)mpaigu of hrag and l)lu-it(!r. F li;vve quoted tlio resolution introdu(;ed at that tiiiit; l)y the rigiit honorahlf; gentleman. Well, if the inattiT iiad gone no furlliti' than that, \ would have Udt mucli to pay ; but tlie resolution winch was tht-n in- troduced was intended to force the United States to give us tlie reciprocity which tiicv wouKl not giv(! othf.rwise, and tlie feeling w.i.s intensili(;d liy tfie mo=t violent speeches. Sir Charles Tupi)er,for instance, went to the Maritime prnvinces, and stated there that by atlopting a i)olicy of retaliation, by Canada building up a tarifTwall agaiiiHt the Americans, we would in a few years bring the .\mHricans to their kneiM ;iad force them to give us reciprocity. In Prince; Eilward Island, he used the language again and again, and used it with some effect, iKicause at that time the Is- landers sent six representatives to this House, to heli) the (iovernment lo build that tariff wall which it waa supposed was going to bring the Americans to their knees. I am glad to say, however, that since that time the people of Prince Edward Island have come to take a better view of the situation, and they now xinderstand that in order to have reciprocity they must take some other way. Well, Sir, the least that can be said of our relations with our neighbors is that such language and such conduct was not calcu- lated to promote good feeling between the two nations. If the Americans were disposed at that time to enter into negotiations with us, with a view to establishing FREE TRADE BETWEEN THE TWO COUNTRIES, the very moment that Canada pretended to be a))lo ON THE FISHERY QUESTION 470 to force them, tliat nioincnt llio Aincricaiifa would f-tifTt'ii tlioir liiicks, luul rel'use to yive to threats what they might have lieen disjxiHed to jrivo to uejijotiations. lUit tliat hin<,'»iage li;ul its efTect in Caiiaihi, The ("aiKulian people, lielieviiij^ the j)romise held out to them hy the Confiervutive party then in Opposition, returned tluit party to iiower, and ^aw llieiu an op[n)rtunity to huild their tarilFwall and to eslaldirli !i reciprocity of tariffs. They did so. and wiiat was tlie result? Why. tlie result was that in a few years, instead of 0])enin^ the Auk rican markets to free trade, the ti;st thinjf the Americans did was to take v.n o]jp(i. i-it(! ]X)licy and to ah(dish tlie iishery articles of the "\Vasliin<fton treaty, to cut ofT from us what litle ad- vantaire wo had under that treaty, and to bring hack the state of alTairri which had before exii^ted. This was a serious matter. Wlien the Americans uavo notice to the (.lovernment of Canada ih.at they would not continue tlie fishery stipulations of the WasliiiiLrtou treaty, the CfOvernment had before them a great <luty tt) perform. Ami how did ihey perform that duty? They performed it liy A rOI.ICY OK MASTERLY INACTIVriY; they never budged ; they never stirred ; they observed upon the question a conspiracy of silence, remaining serenely indifTerent as to what might he the couse- (piencea of the attitude of tlie United States. When Ave on this side reminded tliem that they had a duty to jjerfona, when they were asked from tliis side to act, to do something, anything, to meet the new situa- tion that had arisen, what was their invariable answer? Their answer always was: "' Hush ! hush ! hush ! don't ask for information ; don't ask for anything whatever ; leave the matter to us ; you do not know what harm you may do to on international (luestion of this sort, by asking for infortumation ; do not force our hands ; leave it to us ; everything will all come out right in time." They never stirred a It r^ n Ml'?)' • ■' '^' 480 SI-EKCH fin^^cr in order t(j incut tho imw .liUmtinn whicli \vii8 al)out to I'iico thoiii. Seeing this iiun-tioii on tin' piirt ol'tln! (iovcniniciit, \v(3 on tliis side <)!' tli(! Ifoiis iittcniptDd to do, in 18S], wluit \vc uro doin;; jit tli :iioin(!nt ; in t'tioe of the iniictivity of tho GovornnitMu we iittenipted to clfiir tlic way, iiml to show them tho duty whicli lay hcfore thcin. Mv lionorahln Iriciid behind nic, from (Juet3n's, V. \<]. I. (Nlr. Dtivios), moved a ro.-Jolutioii, in ISSI, to whitdi F cull tho special atten- tion of till; IIoiiHc, in-cau.so it shows how the (iovern- nieiit were j^uilty in that re.siiect. Tho resolution was coucheil ill the t'ollowin;^ laii;^uaj^c: — III vii'W of tli<» iiiitii'c nf till' t'-i'iiiiirition of th<' Fishoiiivs nrticlcs <it the 'I'lt'iity of Wn.'^hington, ^'ivcu hy tho I'nitcil States to tlio l<ritwli ( iovcriimciit, iiinl the c<)iis(M|iii'iit cxiiirii- tioii, on lilt? IsL .Inly, IMS,"), ot' tiio ri'ci|)roc,iil jiiMvili'^os ami e.\('in|>tioiis of lliiit tr(>iity,tlns Iloii.S(Ms of oi)iiiioii tiiat .-ti.'jjs .siioiiM 1)0 tiiktiii fit iin curly day hy tlu (iovorniuont of Canada with tho objoct of hrin^'in;; al>)iit nn^Jtiatioiu tor a now troaty, provMhii,' for til'' I'iti/.oiirt of Canada and tin; Unit' States th(! roiMprooal i)rivil(';j!os of lishiiii.', ami fretMJom f (ln:i('s now cnjoyoil, toutotlior witii liio aihhtioii of rocipr frcriloin in tho trade I'olations of tlu^ two lioiintrios, and tluu in any sncli noLr.itiations I'anala should ho dirc-ctly repiG- sentctl hy some one noininatoil hy its (iuverninont. lyi 'f '".in. ;■ ■ ' ■ IjTj ,■■','' - i-*''S'fc', ' !' ' ' 1 r* I. lil ft' ' (i; -.t Here was a ])olicy clearly indicated hy the Oppo- sition, hy my honorahlo friend from Prince JCdward Island, that the Government should at once enter in- to negotiations in order not only to meet the dilliculty, but to meet it by an extension of trade facilities. What was the answer ? The answer was just what I said a moment ago : Keep f-ilent, do nothing, leave every thing to us, I cannot do better than tjuote tho language used by the right honorable gentleman on that occasion, lie summed u\) his argument in the following wtjrds : — But tho honorable gentleman says that tho United States have shown a desire to e.xtcml tlioir trade by having a reci- ON THi; I'l^'IIEUY taKSTinX 481 jtrocity tri'iit\ wiili .\[i\\i('o aii'l tlu» Siiiiilwicli Inl:iiiil-,\vli() c iin- jUfiicc'l ni';.'oliiitiuiis ill tlicrtt.' rii.s»'>? W'lis il llic Siiiii|\\ icli Isliiiuls and Mi'xun? No; it wtis tlm Oovi'i'iiint'iit n\' (Iid UniltMl Sliiti'> in I'ulli iiiNtancoH, wiio wiis tlo^iroiis of jictliii;; ronti'di (n tin' Irmn' dI tliosi- two imtioiis, inli'i'inr in |ii)|iuiii- tioii, iiil'i'iiiir ill wt'.iltli. iiii'l vciy iiuu'li >iilij.'irt t(i AiinTicaii inlliii'iicc-*. 'I'lii'v i|t'-in'il t<i iiicifasi' tliat iiitiiictKH' ami to oli tiiiiMvuitrol of till' trail' of tiiix.' tw.) iiifionn, liiit, it \va, not Kiiii; KalaUaiia, it \vai not tin- i'n"<iiliiil of Mi'xu'o.wlm waiitoil tlinlrt'aty; it was tin' •iovoi'iiiin'iit of tlm I'liiti- I Stall's tliat jiru.nsi'il ii|)uii til. ISC almost auxiliary nations iin. I lorc»(l ujion thom, almost lort-ed upon tliciii, tlioso trouties. Now, Mr. SpiMilLiT, I lliiiik wi' must to a c'l tain extent |iuisai' tin- ^amu course. •' T tliinU \v(> must to a cortiiin cxtotit iiursiic tlu; Riinio ('(UiiHi* iiii(i in tlie piiiiio iiuiiuier an llio limMTii- iiiont ol'tho I'liitod States," was tlio rciily. That (luv- eniiiiont wont to Mexico and tlit' Saiidwicli fsiand^ in ordtT til obtain treaties ol' cdinmerce witli them ; wc must I'nljiiw tlie s;iint' conrrJi! and wait until the (inv- ornnuMit of the VnitiMl .Statof^ a])|irou(di us, or, indeed, force tlie (Invernnient nf the rnileii States to come t(t us and tiwk um also to nej^otiati with them new cnm- inorcial treaties. I cannot nay 1 wan Hurprisod at that langua}2;o. It was exactly in ■' 'orihinci' with tlm ])(ilu'y always pursued hy tlic ) ■ lahk' tientlcmau and his (iovernnient ; it was tlie same ])olioy wdnch liad been inaujxtu-ated in 1877, to foiro the Americans to come to us and not allow ("aiuula to go to ilie Ame- rican.s. The (ioveniment had a [lolicy liy which they were going to I'orce the Americans to come tons; they have ])Ut it into cfTect piece liy jiiece. J''ir.st, they erected a. tariff wall around tliis country ;hut that not being sulHcient they made an addition. And what was lliat? The unwarrantable manner in whicli they commenced to execute the convention of ISIS, T take issue with the right honoralde gentleman upon tliis, and I say that, in my estimation, no greater fault wa3 ever comndttod liy his (loverninont than in the way they carried out the c invention of ISIS in ISS.j. They refused to ship the lish of Americans in bond. ;tf . [Ill Hfi' ■ ■'■'. '■ i WaHUn^ -t jjj is t' ; t 1 MH) ^ mmm ?■'''■;;-■' ,<, 4 82 Sl'EECII Thoy sei/o I tlioir schooners for allo^-ofl or trivial olTences of the customs law, and they phK^ed u|)on the conventioii '»f ISIS the narrowest construction it was po.ssihle to ^)at upon it, a construction so narrow, and in sonic cnses so inhuman, tliat there are instances where schoTiiers wore forced hack to sea without heiiig allowed tlu; iirivilege of huying a single article of food in a (,'anadian i)()rt. They expected to hring down tiie Americans hy that policy. What was the result ? The remit was the Retaliation Hill— the ]>ill Avhich was passed in 1S87, wiien the American Con- gress authorized tlie President at any moment to sever commercial intercourse hetwcen the United .States and Canada. The Government liad not anticipated that action. Ptill 1h(>y did not move. Ikit it is well for Ciinada that there is in the United r^tateg a Canadian with a true Canad'an heart, a man who has the honor of heing daily ahused hy the Conservative press of this country, a man whose name, wlien it was men- tioned tlie other day in conncition with this very suhjeiit. was received with jeers, to their shame he it saiii. hy tlic majority of this House. Erastus Wiman stepped to the front, and he did then what should have l)cen done long before hy the Covernment ol' Canada -he constituted hin.self ambassador for ('anada to tlie United States, and had an interview with ]\lr. Bayard. Pome lionoraldo members : — Oh! oJi ! Mr. Laurier : — Is there any dissent expressed to that ? Have honorable gentlemen opposite forgotten their own history ? Have they forgotten the language which was used not later than twelve months ago by Sir Charles Tupper in this ITouso ? Have they forgotten the praise given on that occasion to Mr. Wiman by Sir Charles Tupper ? If they have, let me recall the language used on that occasiou by Sir Charles. He aaid : 1 know tills, that a mutual friend — I have no objection lO mentioning that it was Mr. 'Wi-uan — at an early day after 1= ■} ON THE FISIIEUY QTESTIOX 483 KV lliis «poor')i u;i-( ilolivcri'il, iiitimatcil to intMli.it lie li:iil had a long coiiv creation with the Secretary of State ol'tlic Cnitoil Stales, Mr liayanl, ami tliat tliat gi'iitlonian iiail snil ihat he woiiM he very f-'lail tn have an npjiortnnity ol'(|iKOus-in;.' the li.utual relations of fjanaila and the IJnit(»d States with either uiy rij.'ht honorable friend the Treniier of (Canada or uiyse If. Somo lu)n()i'!ilile tnenrhers : — riicatituts ! Mr. litiiirier ; — ('he^tiiiits, say.s an honorable i:,en- tleniiin. iSir, I am really suri):-i.sed that on a subject oi' sueb vital inipoifaiice as this, .'o imich levity should be di.^lilayed. JJut this is (juite in keepin.ir with the policy ot'lhe (lovernment which honorulde f^entlenien oi)])osite I'ollow. it' Mr. Winum on that occasion had not ritepjfcd to tlie I'ront. what would lir.ve iieen the conse()ueiiees ? I do not know, but the (iovernnient. at idl es'cnt^. tliought it fit and proper at last to move, and they commenced to iu;t upon tlu; H.u.i;c;eslion and the action of Mr. Wiman. and ])romplly Sir Charles Ttipper went to Washington. Jle did what should luive been done years ago. and ho had an interview- wit h Secretary of State l>ayard. It is [no per to refer to the correspondence whi^h was tlie conseijitence of that interview between Sir Charles Tu])i)er and Mr. Bayard. It originated in a letter written by Mr. Jiayard to Sir Charles Tupi)fir, and in winch is to be found a very sigidficant paragraph : I am confident we but seek to attain a Ju.st and permanent settb-ment — and there is hut one way to procure it — and that is hy a stvaiglitforward treatment on a UbiM'al and states - manlilcc plan of tlio entire co:nin<>rcial relations of the two countries. 1 say commercial, hecause 1 do not proi)Ose to include, however indirectly, or hy any intendment, however partial or oblique, the political relations of Canada and the United States, nor to atlect the legislative indi'iiendence of either country To this paragraph Sir Charles Tuppor responded in a similar spirit: My Dear Mk. Bayahd, 1 had great pleasure in receiving your letter ofilay.'il, evincing a.s it does the importance which you attach to an m '■■.!*■!> It 'I i 4S4 sriCECii amicablo a'ljr.stmeiit of the Hshorics emestion aivl tlio mainte- nance oi'tlic conlial commercial relations between the United States and f 'anada, imder which such vast and mutually Ijene- ilcial res-ults have grown up. I entir'^ly comclu' in your state- ment that wo both seek to attain a just and permam-nt set- tlement — and tiiat there is but oiK^ way to procure it — antl that is by a strai.uhforwaivl treatment on a liberal aii'l states- nianiike plan ot'tlie entire commorcial relations of the two countiies. r!^ ' It is a mailer ol' history tliat, iu consequence of that con'es])on(lencc, conmiissioncrs were appointed tn meet at Washington to ?ettle that question. And Avhen tlu'v met, Sir (Miarles Tupper, rememliering tlie ])aragrapli wliich I liave just (luoted, rememliering the spii'it wliich liad dictated that correspondence between Inm.self and Mr. IJayard, was ])rompt in ask- ing from the American plenipotentiaries a settlement of the (juestion upon tiic very Ijasis which had lieen laid down hy INIr. J'>ayard— tliat is to say, a commercial liasis. He niade the following propositions: — That with the view of removing all causes of difference in connection with the fisheries, it is ])ro]iosed by iter Majesty's plenipotentiaries thai llie fishermen of both countries siiall have all the privileL^es enjoyed dnrin,i,' the existence of the fisheiy articles of the treaty of "Wa-hinglon, in consideration of a liiutual arrang'inent jiroviding for greater freedom of commercial intercourse between the United States and Canada and Xewfoundlamh , Such was tlie jiroposition made by Sir Cliarles Tui»per. and this prcpnsition was in conformity with the projjosition contained in the letter of Mr. J'ayard to him. For what reason and for what cause v\'a3 this i)ro])osition rejected hy ]\Ir. Bayard and the American ])lenipotentiarie3 ? Simply on account of the policy which honorable gentlemen opj)osite had followed in regard to the Fisliery Treaty, simply on Account of the irritation which liad been caused in the United States ON THE FISHERY QL'E^TIOX 4S.> nv TiriC il.VR.-II AXD INULWLAX MAN'XKH in wliicli that treaty liail been can-ied out. Perhaps, Sir, tiiat will l)e disputed aisu, but, il' disputed, I can bring an important witrifM-f to ^lupport mv Htatoment. and my witness on thi>< occa-ion willlie Sir ('harles Tupper liiiasult'. Speakin;/ ui' tlii.s very I'uct and exi)laining the reason wliy the offer he had made had not l)cen accepted, Sir Cliarlcs Tapj^er u^-ed tlio f'ol- h)winu- words : — Mi: Jjiiyai'd ami tlioii^ ot'.nr ufiiitleaiori said that "tliero is only ouo way to roaoli t!ii» (for Uougiv.s.s alone can tako tln.< iki y oil any artiflc), and on acoonnt of the oxaspeiMtion tliat b.isi boen exi'ited in this country by tliose lisliory dilllulties, on Iiavc :it?on tho result, you haw an unanunous Bill passed by tho Ifoiwo oC KoT.re>-cut;rivo=: and [)a«si^(I !iv tic Scn.tto and assented to l>y tiie President, vou have to rn(Mn what they iiold was tiie inhosiiitiible eonduor, fth'^y us(>d good deal stronger terms in some of their .State papers, I am very sorry to say) of Canada in I'eferenne to tlie treatment of their fishermen, our rei)resentatives liavc .-iai I that lli.-y woati never purchase from Canada any immunity for their tishermen by reciprocal trade arrangtanents," i!iil)ued. as tlieir miivh were, with ihe idea tliat we had adoi)ted tiiat policy to force reciprocity upon them. Now. Sir. you have the opinion of the man best (lualilicd to give evidence upon tliat subject, that the reason why the free trade relations which were touched upon by Mr. Hayard in his correspondence with Mr. Tupper wore not carried out, was just on account of the policy which had bef • followed 1)}' honorable gentlemen o[)posite upon iiat very rpies- tion. The right honoral)]e gentleman and his (dov- ernment have always prided themselves upnn their superior wisdom and statesmanship, but upon this occasion T ask, where was the wisdom and where was the statesmanship ? Tt'the motion that my honorable friend behind me (Mr. Davies) made in bSSd, when he suggested that the Government should send a com- missioner to Washington in order to settle this ques- tel : i; 486 SPEECH t> L 1.1 . "^ pi i\ ' '' tion, liiiil been acloptetl, tlien, Sir, does it not follow iVom what T liave stated that tliei<:' was a chance to bfi heard and a chance of obtaining what we had in view ? At tliat time theCiovernmcnt would not yield to the pressure ])ut ni)on them. They wi.idd not send a commissioner to Washington, but tliree years later they were forced to send one, and upon that occasion, as on many other occasions when tliey acted, it was too late. Tf the Ciovernment had then acted in time they would have o])tained some result ; but they refused to act in time, and 'i'lIKY LOST tVEUVTIilXO. To day we see the same })olicy still pursued, the same policy of ])rocrastinali(in, and we are j'orced upon this occasion to suggest what, in our judgment, is the true ])()licy that should be followed in the inte- rest of Canada. \\'hat followed the result of the last negotiation at Washington ? Tlie treaty was rejected, it is true, and rejected by the American Senate. which had the power to deal with this <iue=ti(m. Then came the celebrated Message from President C'levehind — and there is this to be said in favor of the President's Message, that he simply suggested (since he might lie called upon at any time by the action of this (rovernment to i)ut the Retaliation Act in force) that a milder course should be adopted than the coi:rse demanded then. President Cleveland simply said to the American nation : " I may be called upon at any moment to put that Act into force, but T cannot put that Act into force without, to a large extent, injuruig American trade. There is a better way to rcacli the Canadian people, since they refuse to carry our fish in bond. Instead of shutting out all their im- ports it would l)e better for us to prevent them car- rying their goods in bond •.ii)on our railways." Such, however, was the ])itter sentiment of the American people against us at that time.that Congress refused to act upon the suggestion of President Cleveland. No- ON TIIK FISriERY i^UESTIOX 487 thing ctune of liis suggestion ; the Act renuiing in force iindiit Uvi moiucnt we are just in this i)()-!ition : that to-morrow, ur tlie day after to-morrow, the new ail- niinistration uiay at any time, if tliey choo.-;e, cut oif altogether the existing commercial relations hetweeu Canada and tlie United States. Again I ask : What is to be dune ? What is the [){)licy that ought to ho followed V)y Cr'.tada ? I say to the Government, i: ' IlEVERSK VOCU POLICY, give up the policy of harshness which you haveheen following hitherto, anladijptthe policy of concilia- tion ; admit tliat you have been in the wrong, and endeavor, not by threats or by acts of violence, to ob- tain reci[)rocity of trade with that country,but (Mideav- or to obtain it by negotiation and psaceablc means. I am aware, from my pa>t experience, that in daring as I do now, upon an international question, to say to the (iovernment that they were in the wrong, and to say that the other nation was in the right, I will firing once uiort; upon my head all the thundering indignation of the Conservative press and party. Be that as it may. I hold that there is all the more rea- son to speak upon the question, because it is an in- ternational <iuestion. liecause the consetiuences may be graver, there is all the more reison to act. and to act promptly, iind to speak in no uncertain tones. I know very well from my past experience of the man- ner in which the Conservative party of this country have always understood i)arty allegiance, that it is an act of disloyalty, that it is an act of treason to attack Ministers who shield themselves behind the sacred • ut, Sir, I sav witluuit ofTence.that name of country I do not care for the Ministers, but li do care for my country, which may sulfcr from their conduct. Tl;o tactics of the Conservative party are not new, tiny have always l)een t he same, and it has always beta held disloyalty and treason to attack the Conserva- tive Ministers, even though it be (o save the country. !llV" Sf, fl » r ft f A ' 488 Sl'EECir There was a lime in the history of Enjrlnnd when the American people, then colonists of England, were Ibrced into i'el>elliou Ity the har.-li conduct of the liritish Government and by the tyrannical measures of the Imperial Parliament. There wa^, also, at that time the greatest Englishman of hi.s day — a man who has done nmre than any man of his time to launch England on that career of military and commercial agj^randize- ment which has since signalized her cour.se. Lord Chatham nisver ceased to call upon the (lovernment, and on tlie i']iigli.-h Parliament, to retrace tiieir steps, and to abandon their policy of hart-hnoss "and adopt THE rOI.ICY OF CONCILIATION. These gentlemen on the other side of the iluuse have such slavish o}iinions — and T can use no other woril but slavish — of loyalty, that it may not be amiss if I ]>ut bel'ore them tl:e hiiiguuge used by Lord Chatham, the greatest Englishman of his time, ile had to .speak wpou the policy which had driven the American colo- ni.«ts into rebellion ; and he was P])eaking at a time when those colonists were in arms, fighting against His .Majesty King (ieorge IIL On one occasion he made use of this language: — Kvoi'v motive, tlKMvlbro, of justice amldf policy, of dignity ami oliniiiUnci., iirgf- you to iillay the fenn-'iit in America — by ii reuiov.il (if your troip.s from Boston — by n repeal of your Acts ol' P.irlianient — and Ijy the demonstration of aniicablo disjiositions tow.ards the colonies. On the other hand, every danger and every )ia:^ard impend to deter you from persever- ance in your present ruinous measures. On the same occasion he made use of the follow- ing language : — We shall be forced idtimately to retract: let us • ^tracfc whil<> we can, not wlu-n ^ve must. I .-ray we must necessarily undo these violent opjiressive acts ; tliej' must be rei;eiilei) ; you wih rejieai tliom ; 1 pledge myself for it, that jou will in the end repeal them. Uli 1 1 ON THE FISHERY QrESTION 4 SO Tlioy -wpvo vpppiiled two years lator, but tli(\v were rei>eale(l toi> late. Kei)ealed in time, tiiey would Lave had some elfect ; repeaU'd too late, they oiily en- couraged the American colonies to persevere in their action. On another occasion he made use of this no less signilicant language: — 11' 1 wiTt' all Anu'i'ipan, as 1 am an Eiii-'li-hman, wliik- a foifi^n tiooj) was landed in iny countiy, I iiover would lay (!o\vii iiiv aMii«, never ! never! never! Sir. tliis language was held to be treason at that tin!(>; sueh language would he held to be treason to- day. At tiuit time it was held to be treason by the whole Cmiscrvative party, and still niiiri- by that well meaning, short-sighlc(l, thickdnaded Tory, King Cieorge III. He called Lord Chatham A 'n;lMI'ET of SEDITION ; yet, it the voice of that trumpet of sedition had been heeded at that time, King (ieorgt; [II would have saved to the Ilritish Crown the loss of those royal domains which Ihigland has ever since deplored. W(dl. Sir, the loyalty of that great man which does not jinnder to prejudices, which does not court the favor of king or mob, but which speaks the truth whenever the truth is called for, this is the loyalty of this side of the House. It is in the name of tliat loyalty I now speak; and. doul)ly encouraged by the language of that great man, I say to the Canadian Min- istry of this day that they are repeating the same fault which was committed by the Knglish 3Iinistry of 1775, and in the same terms I appeal to them lo retrace their steps and take a new course. Ifyou ask me, Mr. Speakei, to come down to practical measures and to say wdiat I would recommend, I answer: The Government themselves admit that a new treaty has be negotiated. They say so in the Speech from the Throne, where I find this language: — It now only remains for Canada to continue to ..laintain » j 490 frKKCII 1 ln>r riglit.s a"i prcsci'ilio 1 ')y tho f-onvoiitioii of I^IS, mitil s'/.nc^ s;itisl';iot()ry loailjustiat'iit is urruugtvl liy ticaty botweon tlio two natiniis. Thut Spt'eeh war' made on tlie ijlst <»r .Taimiiry. Tlif'v (lien enntoniplated iictiii)^' uiuler tlio I'Dnvention of ISIS, r iiiu '^\iu\ to nee that, tliou.<i;Ii to some extent they liave not iieen alile Hince then to come to jiny (lilTerent (h'cision, yet they have w.u'ereil a litth' in tlieir opinion. When they wcn'e askeil iiy my honor- able friend Ijchind me. a little while a<(o. whether they inlemled to put into force the ;/(o /its virnvli^ they said it wa^^ under consideration. They did nut know whether they would cr would not. \V(dl, let n^ lii^lp them along a, little, and let uh .say that, in our judLiment at least, since they are to neu;otiate a new treaty, they should not go hack and act upon the harsh clauses of the convention of ISIS, but rather upon the more generous claus(!S and dispositions of the iiwtliif nirrndi. If you are to negotiate anew treaty, it stands to reason, if you ci)minence to harass Ame- rican tisliermen by tiie enforcement of the clauses of tlie convention of ISIS, that that would be A vKiiV >oi!i;y ruKi.roE to all our negotiations. Hut if you go to Washington with the generous treatment provided under the iiiD'lus oiiwriili., there is some reason to l)elieve that an agreeable and satisfactory solution of tlie diiliculty may be arrived at, in the only manner which would l)e satisfactor\' to both nations, that is to say, upon a basis of freer commercial relations between the two countries. Sir, there is (ivery induccnnent for that policy. I give it as my deliberate oi)iniou that, ever since the abrogation of the treaty of 18")4, the relations of the two Countries have never been satisfactory; tliey have never been openly hostile, but they have never been avowedly and generously friendly, always characterized by petty annoyances and vulgar bick- i in \l ft mmn ■ M L. ON rUK FISHERY QfESTION ■101 erings ; aii'l, unt'ortuniitcly, that stiitc of tilings Iuh jilsu extended t(j the relations l)et\veen the niotiicr liind and tiie repul^lic. Nothing, I am sure, could ho more ])ainl"ul to every I'riend of England than the hostility displayed during the last jiresideiitial contoi-t towards England. It is my deliherate opinion that this hostility, disidayed at this date towards l-'ngland liy the American people, is a Idot on the f;iir fame ol' the United States just as much as the hostility dis- l)layeil during the civil war l.y England towards the United States was a blot on the fair fameol' J^ngland. It behooves us, situated as we are in tliis country, having the relations we liavc to the mother land, and conneelcd g'?ograi)hical]y as v.e are with the United States, to help to create .L UiriTK!; I'll!!. It.' SKNTIMKNT in tile two countries towards each other; ami this view is Largely shared, I am glad to say, by the wliole Anglo-Saxon race in the two hemispheres. Though there are at this mtuncnt these unpleasant characte- ristics ii; the relations bttweon England and the United States, there are no two nations in the world to-day which are so closely allied. Their trade is daily increasing, and to-day it already exceeds the trade of any other two nations. ATore than this, their intel- lectual life is every day getting more and more inti- mately interwoven, liooks — all those important books which the literary world awaits on the tiptoe of expec- tation — are published simultaneously in London and New- York. Actors exchange boards ; preachers exchange iiuli)its ; there is no artistic or literary fame originated in one country which is safe and secure until it has been sanctioned in the other. While all these facts are healthy, I, for my i)art, would want Canada to stej) into the movement, to turn a new leaf in her history, to forget the i ast. and to do her share to reach that which must be. T suppose, and T hope, the ultimate object, namely, closer and ever (doser 402 SPEECH 111,:., utuiiu l)ot\veon ;ill nountries of British orij^in and British institutions. Witii these views, I beg to niovu : Tliat nil tho wonls .iI'Um' tliu wonl " Tli:it " be Icl't nut, aii'l iho rollo'.viiig iiistM'toil insteail tlirrt'ol': — " In vimv of tlio r'.;j('ct:oii hy tli.^ Scii.Uo ol'lho Uiiitdl States of the Wasli- in;,'t()ii 'i'l'caty ol JSSS, and tlu iiiiloi'tunatc ami I't-tifottable • litl'i'i'.'iici's existing betwi.'eii Caiiii la ami the IJaitoil States on tiie Fisliery ami rivulo ijuestions, this Ffoiise is of opinion that stojis should bo taken, lit an early day, by the (Joverninent of Canada, for the satisfae'.o'y adj'ustment of sueh dilliTi-nces, and the securin;j of unrestricted freedoui in tie; trade relations ol' the two eoinitrit^s, and tliit, in anv negotiations entei'ed upon for such |iurpos(>s, Canada should be directly I'epresented l)y some one noniiuatcid Ijy its < Joverninent. That, in tiio meantime, and to permit <ifsueh negotiations being favorably ontereil on, ami to atlbrd evidence of the anxious desiro of Canada to promote good feeling, and to remove all possible subjeets of eontrovm'sy, this House is of opinion that the moilus riri'iidi pro[)Osed on behalf ol' the British (jo\ernment to the Cio\einment of the United States with respect to the I'ishei'ies should lie continnod in operation dufim; tlie ensuing tl^rliing season. Uw:V 1?011 1 TI?C1 MR. .MERCIEU'S LAW RATIFIKD J;V PARLIAMENT Mil. I.AIUIEU.S Sl'EtCH A(i.\]Xs'r TllJC VKTU On thoL'dthMiircli, 1S8U, Mr. oT.iicu, nu'inlior lor Mus- koka, iiiiulo tlu' lijllowiiig motioii in the t'oaiuions : " Tliiit M al'tor tho word " That '' be left out, ami the followiiif^ inserted in hcMi tliereof: " Mr. Sjieaker do not now leave the Cliaiv, l>ut that it be resolveil, th.'it an hunilde >\ddres.s he pre.-enteil to His KxceHency tiie (iov(>rnor (leneral, setting I'ortli ; l.Thattliis Hou.se regards tiie ]K)wer of ilisah lowing the Acts ol' the Legishitive .Vsseuihiies of tlie I'rovinc'es, vested in His E.xcellency in Conncil, fis a prerogative essential to the national existence of tin? Dominion ; 1'. That this great power, while it should nevoi' be wantonly exeicisetl, shouM he fearlessly n.-ed for the protection of the rights of a minority, lor the preservation of the I'undfmientaljirnieiples of tlu> con- stitution, and for sale-guarding tlie general interests of tlio lieojile ; 'i. That in the opinion of this House, the passage by the Legislature of the I'l'ovince f)f (Quebec of the .Act entitled ' An Act respecting the settlement of the .Jesuits' Estate.s' is beyond the power of tliat Legislature. Fir.stly, bete aise it endows Irom public funds a religious oi'ganization, thereby violating the uadoubted constitutional principle of the com- jilete separation of Chuich and State and of the absolute equality of all denominations btdbre tiie law. Secondly, because it recognizes the usurpation of a right by a fonigii authoiity, namely, His Holiness th(^ Pope of Rome, to clainj that his consent was necessary to empower the Provincial Leg.slature to disi)Ose of a portion of the public domain, and M^ 401 srKECII (ilsD lii'Oii'isc till- A't i-i ma Ic (f) il"iii'ii'! tiiion t!i"\\ill, uinl tlic niiliiDiniatioii ol' tliM gniut tluMvliy iiiii'lo a-^ sulijoct to tlio • •oiitiol III' tlif s.iiin' fiiitli'irily. Ami, tliinlly, lii-oaiHo the fiidowaii'iit of 111.' S<icii'ty olMcsus, im iilir-;, sc^-rot iiml jioli- tit!0-ri'li;.'iouH lio ly, the i'.\|)iilsi(iii ol' wliii'li froiii eveiy Cliris- tiaii (V)iiiimiiiity wiicri'iti it luis lia^l ii Lxitin.; has hocii roiidci'tMl necessary liy its iiiioliTaiit and iiiiscliii'vous iiitffiiU'ilillin;,' with ihn rmn'tioa- 111' i'i\ii f,'i)vi'rtmi<'nt, is fiaii;;iit witli diti^rer to till' i'i\'il and ii'li;^ir.us lihiTtiiv- of tiic pi'Diili' ol' ('aiiada. And tills IIdusc. tiiiTi'loic, prays that His Kxri'llciicy will If graciously please 1 to disallow the said Act. " This motion was, alter a long debate, rejected on a d;vi- rtion of ISS to 18. 31 li. LAfrniER'S SPEECII (SlTTIMi Ol'- THE 'JStU MaKCU) ii"'"' i I ■fUi. \ m ft Tt is not often thai we on tliia side ot'ilio House <;an liiivo the iii'ivih',ij;e of s<up[)orting tlie policy of the Ciovernnient. In tills in.stiince, wlicii the lution of the (iovernnicnt i? ai=Hivile(l hy ii nunilier of their sujiportei's, whiMi their action hii3 already caused an agitation Avliieh unfortunately in not unmixed with religious l)itterne.3S, not one word certainly will fall from my li]is which would tend to fan those religious ilames ; and T may say at once, rei)eating what was Baid this afternoon by my honorable friend from Jiotli- well(\Ir. Mills), in the admirable speech he delivered, that the course of the {Joverniuent receives, with a few exceptions which T respect, the entire support of the L,beral party. No other courseiMr. S{»eaker, than the course which wo intend to take on this side of the House, would be consistent with the policy which we have been advocating for the last fifteen or twenty ^ — nay, ever since Confederation has been in rxi-:' And, Sir, I hasten at once to congratu' ' " '' ernment upon the fact that at last the to the true policy which they have en foii .ii (jX .IK.-l rr.-< KHTATKS HII.l, •li>.1 ajiiiinst. tli;i1 the only 1ri.-ji- uiinn whicli wo can suc- ces.sl'ully carry on IhiH ('onri'dcration is to rcfoLiui/c llic i)riiicii>l(' of pi'iiviiu'ial riulits. And I cinnot Iml Hiiy alno tliat if the (invcrniucut to diiy luivo to t'acc tliis troulilc in tlicir own tainit. il'tiicy have to meet this aj^itntion which is now K"i'i}^ on in tiic I'rovince of Ontario, and of winch the hoiionildc nicmlicr fur N'nrtli Siiocdc (Mr. Mc( 'artliy ) said yesterday we iiave not seen the last, it is due ullo>,a'thor ip ro TUV. VK'Iors I'OITCY which lias heen I'ollowcd hy the Adndnistration, and heloro tlio con«e(incnce3 of which tliey have at last tn recede; it is duc! alto;i;eilier to tlie manner in wliich they liave governed tliis country, and to tlie means they luive used to ol)tain a nuijority to sniiport tliem. Sir, tlii.s is not a party <iuestion ; it is at nio>t a family ([Uarrel ; it is simply a ilomesti'' dii-turiiance in the raidvs of the (.'onservative party. A i-cction of the C^onservative i)arty now reipiire tlie (.iovernment to stand up or to .stand ditwn. whichever it may he. to the cxiutmcies ot" the doctrine ol' disallowance, such as the (iovcrnment has taught it, and such as the (lov- er nnuMit more than once called upon them to act upon. Well, there must alway.s he a day of rctrihution, and that day I think is coming for the Government. The two chief provinces of which this Cont'ederation is composed are vastly dissimilar. One is French in origin ; the other JJritish. One is Catholic in religion ; the other is Protestant. And in each are to he found the prejudices peculiar to the creed and race of each. I say prejudices, and T u-ie the word advisedly, nor do I use it'in any contem[)tuous sense, for everyhody must recogni/e tlie fact that, wherever you find strong convictions, you generally find an exaggeration of feeling very apt to carry men heyond the legitimate conseiiuence of their convictioiis. Now, ever since the year IS.")!, I charge against the Government and against the Conservative party that they have Ijeen ( I •iOG SPEECH nl)!o to retain power, almost without interruption, largely by pandering to the prejudices of the one pro- vince and the prejudices of the other province, In the good Catholic province of Quebec, to whicli I belong, the party supporting the Administration liave always represented themselves tif. the champions of the Koman Catholic cause. They have always denounced their opponents, the Liberals of French origin like myself.as men of dangerous doctrines and tendencies. They have always represented the Liberals of Ontario as men actuated in all their actions and inspirations by a h.atred of everything French and Catholic. At the same time, in the good Protestant Province of Ontario, the same party has always been held up to the frf)nt as the party of unbending and uncompro- mising Prot»?stantism and the Conservative press to- day represent honorable gentlemen on this side as basely pandering to the influence of the French i)eoi>le and of the Catholic persuasion. Now this game has been for a long time success 'ul, but,* perhaps, before going further, I may recall this fact, known by all tliose who are now listening to me. that TIIK ATTITrDE OF THE CONSERVATIVE I'AUTV of Ontiirio lias always been just what T represent it to be. It may not be so well known tiiat, at the same time, the Liberals of Ontario are charged by the Con- servatives of the province of Quebec, not with pan- dering to the Catholi(nnfluence,bur with Ijeing hostile to Catholic influence — and so the charges work both ways. In one Province the Liberals are charged with one offence, and in the other with another. I could (piote columns upon colunnis of the press whicli supports the right honorable gentleman to prove what I say, btit I shall limit myself to oneshort paragraph. The school question iii Ontario is a burning (juestion. The honorable member for ])ruce (IMr. McNeil) yes- terday spoke almost of nothing else. A ft- >- days ago their Li ben iias b ahvavi ox THE JESUITS' ESTATES BILL 497 there was in the Legishrture of Ontario a debate upon this very question. The Government of Mr. Mowat were charged by the Conservative ])!irty witli unduly favoring the teacliing of the Freneli hmguage in the schools of Ontario. The debate was commented upon in the [irovince of Quebec; /.'( Miiwroe, one of the papers which support the Administration, an orLran of the Conservative party, rel'errcd as follows to this very debate : — The motion of tlu^ liono;;il)lo meiuhiM- for East Diu'liain (Mr. Cniii;) was fbliowe I by u most brilliant rc^ply .sti'oii'.'ly coiic'ived, bioa 1 in vi'sv auil conclu.siv(^ .Voni t)ii' Honorable G. W. Ivoss, iMinisit-r ol Public Instruction. Mr. Jios.s is a (irit of the cioari^st vvattT, but we are too niueh accustonieil to i'.io (jiallophobio (lonuniiiations of tliat party and to the intempe- rance of tiieir lan;:uage, wlieti the Province of Quebec is in question, not to rejoice at anything whicli rinuotely or appro.K- imately can loo!< uki> a conversion. Yoa see the gist of this statement. It was charged that the langung*; of Mr. Ross was an exce))tion, whereas the charge made by the Conservative party in Ontario aj^ainst the Administration for wliich Mr. Hops spoke was the very thing which is given him here as an exception. So it has always been. The party has ALWAYS HAD TWO KACKS — Hi n th lid [ch ])h. les- vgo a rigid Protestant face turning tnvards the west, and a devout Catholic face turning towards the east. In the province of Ontario, the rallying cry of the party has always been : "Protestants, beware! these Grits are weak Protestants ! '' Some honorable members :— No, never. Mr. Laurier : — Among the Protestants of (Quebec, their cry has always been : " Catholics. l)eware. the Liberals are weak and bad Catholics ! " This game lias been successful for a long time, but it cannot alwavs be successful, and I say the day of retribution 32 498 SPEECH i Mr,-» is now coming. I say that this motion which we now have is in many senses miicli to bo doprecatecl, and I endorse every word which fell the other day I'rom the honorableiiienibcn' for Nortliumberhmd (Mr.Aiitcliell). It seeias to me that all he said then were words of wisdom, but at tlie same time I cannot resist the con- viction that the (.if)vcrnment ofto-chay are only reap- ing what they have been sowing. Tliey lia/e allowed a large class of tlie Protestant i)opiilation of Ontario to look upon them as the chan)])ions of Protestantism. They have aihrmed the doctrine of disallowance among that section of the party and now that section cries out : We have always looked upon you as the champions of Protestnntisin ; here is legishition which we deem ofTcnsive to the Protestiint interest and to the interest of the country at large, and we call upon you to exercise tiiose ptjwers of disallownnce which ycu have so oi'ten excrci-ed in the past. Well, as far as the Liberal party i-* conc^ined, tlieir attitude upon this ((uestion was known before it was exjilained in this debate. The liiberal party nlways endejivors to meet those ijuestioi's, fronj a point of view that would include all different religious interepts. Among the many questions winch diviiled the two parties, there is no one upon which the policy of the two parties has been so clearly cut as upon this. The Conservative party, led by tlie right Imnorable gen- tleman, ha"' e always held the doctrine that they have the right to review the legislation of any Local Legis- lature. We, on the other hand, have always pretended that the only way to carry out this Confederation is to admit the principle that within its sphere, within the sphere allotted to it by the constitution. EACH PROVINCE IS (illTE AS INDEPENDENT of the control of the Dominion Parliament, as the Dominion Parliament is indei)endent of the control of the Local Legislatures. On the contrary, the honorable gentleman has ox THE JESriT:? ESTATES BILL 490 ii ni!iiiitjiin"(l iitroin nnd a^nin upon the floor (if this House and by administrative acts that lie claimed the power to review local legislation, to see whether it was ri[,dit or wrong, and, if he found it clashing with his ideas of right, to set it a?ide. We all remember the famous Streams" Bill. What was the language used on that occasion by the honorable gentleman? Ke claimed that it was a question of purely prov- incial rharacter, that it was one which was clearly within the competence of the Legislature of Ontario, and yet the honorable gentleman took it upon liim- self to disallow it, and for what reason ? For no other reason th;i.u that tlie act claslie(J with his own opinions of what was right and wlial was wrong? lie spoke as follows in rfgard to it : — Rut here, whore we iueoiio country and all togotlier, iiml we go iVoni one province to another as \v(! do troni one county to finotli'T anil from one tnvn to :niother, is it to he l)orne tliat hiws wliu'h hind civilize I society together, whicli distin- guish civilivatinn from liarliarism, protect life, reputation and l)ro|)erty, siioiiM he ilissimilai' : that wiiat should he a merit in one province should ln> a crime in another, and that dillereut laws shoukl prevail ? Upon that occasion the honorable gentleman took upon himself to review the law of the provioiie, and. finding it wa^ not consistent with what he l)elievedto be rigid, ho disallowed it. It shocked the tenderness of the right honorable gentleman's conscience that the Legislature of Ontario provided that Mr. Cald- well could not pass his logs througli Mr. McLaren's improvements without paying toll, though the Privy Council afterwards decided that, without the law, Mr. Caldwell could have used those im[)rovement3 without paying any tolls at all. The honorable gentle- man now comes to the doctrine \vhich has been very many times advocaticd on this side of the House, that he hag not to consider whether this provincial legis- lation is good, bad or indifTerent ; it is altogether within the competence of the Local Logislature of 500 frI'EECJI 1; Quebec, unci tlierefore, says he, let it pass. Let us rf.ad tlie report of tlie Minister nf Justice of the day 0.1 the Streams' \MU and compare it with the report of tae Minister of Justice upon tlie present occasion. Tlie Minister of Justice said : — I think tho power of llie Local Lejiislatuie to take aw.iy tliu rights ol'o'.io man and vest them in another as is done by tins Act, is excc'dingly doubtful, hut, assuming tliat such rigiit docs, in strictness, exist, I think it devolves upon tliis Govermuent to see tJiat such power is not exercised, in ilai/rant violation ot'privati' I'lghts and natural justice, especially \vlifn,as in this (■as(>, ill addition to intei'Cci'ingwith private rights in the way alliKh'd to, the Act overrides a decision of a coiu't of compe- tent jiuisdiction, by d<>clariiig retrospectively tliat the law always was, an 1 is, diflFerent iium that laid down by the court. Now, lot US look at the report of the Minister of Justice in the present case. Tt is extremely short and sweet. The Minister of Justice simply says, referring to some petitions asking for disallowance : — Before the iietition in ([uestion came before him for his consideratinn the undersigned had already recommended to Your Excellency that the Act in question should be left to its ojieration. The niemorials rcferretl to have not convinced the undei'signed that that recommendati'UsliouUl lie changed, 'the subject-matter of the Act is one of jirovincial concern only, Jiaving relation to a fiscal matter entirely within the control of the Legislature of 'iuebec. ^Vell, Mr. Speaker, this is SOUND JJI5ERAL DOCTRINE. This is the very doctrine which has been always maintained and supported on tiiis side of the IfouBe, and once more I beg to tender ni}' thanks and my congratulatior , to the honorable gentleman on hav- ing at last con; to the true ancl only basis uptm which this constitution of ours can be satisfactorily maintained and supported. It takes a long time, ?. ON THE .TESriT.-* ESTATES RILL r,01 lidwovor. tor a true principle to penetrate the per- vertetl niimls, as I might ^ay, ut'the honorable geutle- mcn opposite. No. I beg their pardon, it doea not always take so long a tini;'; sometimes the operation is as fast as at others it i^ dow, (^nh' threr" weeks agn, Ave tendered advice to th(^ Administration as to the manner in v.hieh Ihoy .-..h uld treat our irieiids to the Houth in reference to tlie iTodits rivcnfU. Our advice was treated with contcmiit, nnd it was stated by honorable gentlemen oppositethat the proposal would be received with scum l)y the people of this country ; and yet, within tliree wee'rs. they have changed their minds and accepted the jndicy which we suggested, r can only say tluit, as long as the Administration continue to act in tliat way, first to reject the policy of the Opiiosition and then to steal our clothes and dress themselves in ihem, the country would not lie the loser. T had hesitated, before T resolved tosjieak on his question, whether 1 should conline myself to this statement and then sit down. bntTcannot ignore, no one who has ui hcail the interests of ihi.; country, the peace and harmony of this country, can ignore the agitation wliicli is now going on in tht! [U'ovince of Ontario. Comintr as I do fr om til e province of Quebec, being a member of the Catholic })ersuasion and a supporter of the Government which passed the legislation, I cannot but view with deep concern the attempt which is now being made to arouse our Pro- testant lVdlow-(;itizcns in the province of Ontario against that legislation, j^et me say this, which must be t>l)vious to every honoral)le member, tliat, if we apjiroach tliis question, or any ([uestion, from the ])oint of view of tlie religious opinions which any of us prot'ess, we are apt to stand upon very narrow, verv unsafe, and VKRV I)AXGKIlor< GliOlXD. I say dangerov'? ground because it is a matter of his- tory, that it is always in the sacred name of religion 502 SPEECH S'» rf. that tlie most savaso jnission-j of inanldnd have been excited and some of the most sht)ckiiig crimes liave been committed. In tliis matter, I cannot forget the fact, as I liuve stated, that an attempt lias been made to arouse tiie feelings of the province of Ontario, but I liope that tliat attemi)t will not cavr}', and tliat a better sentiment will prevail ; I hope that tlie tem- perate language which we have heard to-(hiy, will be understood, and, though this legislation may be o])jectionable to some jjcoplc. yet that every one v.ill understand that in these subjects we must make allowance for the feelings of others. What is the cause of the agitation which is now going on ? What is the cause of the legislation which has been the source of so much turmoil ? Sir, it is simjdy this ; It is a matter of regret that the Euroi)can nations. France and Eng- land, when they came to this continent, brought with them not only their laws and institutions, not only their civilization, but brought also their hatreds. At this moment, and for more than seventy years past, France and England have been at peace, and it is given to our generation to witness a spectacle which •would have seemed almost improbable, not tosayim- ])ossible, a few years bel'ore. We have seen France and England arrayed together against a common foe ; and to us British subjects of Fr^^nch origin, JJritish subjects who have learned to love England, who ap- l)reciate her l^enevolent rule, who would not go back to the allegiance of France, but who still ever clnrish in our hearts the love of the land of our ancestors, no S])ectacle could be more consoling than to see TllK BANNEUS OF FRAN'CE AND ENGLAND ^i waving together on the banks of the Alma, on the heights of Inkerman and amid the ashes of Sebasto- pol. Such is the case to-day. Such was not the case, however, at the time of the discovery of America, at tile time of the establishment of English and French posts upon this continent. On the contrary, at that mm' ox TIIK JESUITh' E8iATi:s lULL 503 time French iind Englisli luid been arrayed for goue- nitiona and ceuturies in deadly feuds. Thoy brouj;lit over tlie.se feud.s with them, they brought over with them the enmity which had divided them in Euro^^o, and here on thi.M coutiiiont the}' sought each other acro.-^d lakes and rivers, mountains and forests, and endeavored to inflict upon each other all the injury they possiiily iiuld. They had before them the bound- less space of this virgin continent, but they entered into a deadly wai' for the possession of the miseralde huts which constituted their lirst e-tablishnicnts. Well, the long duel, as we know, was settled on the . ne war, however, was can ied })lains of Abraham, on for a year longer by the Chevalier do Levis, and the continuation of the war had no material effect except to extract from the victoi' most generous terms jf cai>il .ilation. These terms have been referred to, The reli'nous co m- I need not refer to them again. munities were granted all their possessions as freely tl le as if they had renuiined under the domain French King. It was st;ited by the honorable memher I'or Muskoka (Mr. O'Jhien) when he openeil this debate. tli;it the Terms of Ca])itulation had l)een mod- ilied by the Treaty of Paris. For my part I am not able to see the difference, but if difference there be, I am ijuite willing to admit the interpretation of it which was given by the Uriti'^h Government it<elf. Respecting the treatment by the British Government of those communities whicli were })romised special iminunitv, I can see i ■; NO DIFFEllENCE HETWEEN TIIEHt rOSITION under the French regime and their condition under the English regime. The British Government treated those communities and the whole population, for that matter, in religious conceins, with the greatest gene- rosity. All the religious communities, with the single exception of the Jesuits, were maintained in posses- sion of their estates. There was an exception made mi BPEECII J?>?,V of tlio Jesuits, Wliat wjh the cau?o of if ? Was it liy the right of com [Uu-il iH asaortod by ilio lionorablo meinljer for ^^iincoe (Mr. .McCarthy)? Mr. McCarthy: — Will the honorable gentleman excuse me ? I did not nial<e that as.sertion. Ft \vas b}' the introduction of the law at tho Conquest, not by virtue of the Conquest at all — the introduction of the Knirlish law whereby t!ie estates became foi- feitcd to the Crown. Mr. f-aiirier: — Solicit; T accept the correction. I do not intend to discus?) the lej^al ai-pects of the (jue.stion, because, in my judgment, the legal asijcct does not come here. I'ut even if, as .stated by the boijorable gentleaum, the British Government took possession of these estates by virtue of the introduc- tion of the iMiglish law into ihi.s country, slill that nnght have applied as well to the other communities as to the Jesuit estates. Why was fliat excej^tion inadi'? Why were these other religious eonnnuiulies maintained in possession of their estates, and the Jesuits excejited ? I think that the Mini.-?ter of Justice yesterday gave the real key of tlie dKlieulty wlicn he fctateJ that it was TlltC COVKTOrSNESS Ol' I.OIJI) .\MIIKKST. ■who, in 1770. obtained from the King an actual \no- uiise of the grant of those estates. Had it not been afterwards for the abolition of the order ))y the Pojie, T firmly l)e]ieve the Jesuits would have continued in the enjoyment of their estates in the same nnmner as the other religious communities. But the order was abolished, and after the last Jesuit had departed this life the British CJovernment took possession of tho estates. Then, as ^ve know, the heirs of Lord Amhest claimed these estates in virtue (jf the prondse which had been made in 177U by the King. But the i)ro- tests were so strong, not only from the old inhabitants, but from the new inhabitants as well, not only from the (dd subjects of the King, but Jrom the new sub- ON THE JESUITS Es^TATEB 151 1. L 605 !l iii jects oftlio Kiiig. tli.'vt tlm (lovt^rniiu'iit could not curry out its intentions of miikinj; a ^wiint ul' tlieso L'state.s to the lieir.^ of Lord Ainlicrsl. On tlie other luuid, tliough the (Joverniiient luul taken posse.-jrfi()ii of these estates, and tliouj^li they were promised to Ciener;il Amliernt, the (lovernnient coiihl not pnttheni into thegeneriil t'uad, and tliey erected them into a f-\)(^- cial fund. But there is this to ho rememhered, whether the hiws of Kn<j!;hind were introduced into the ct)lony or not, whether tlie ohl hiws ((tntinued to he in force or not, tlie old Freneli laws continued to prevail in the country just an licfore. And there is tins also to he rcniemliered, that under the laws of Quehec an they existed under the French ref(iuie. property of the nature of the Jesuits' estates, when the or(k;r had heen abolished, would have reverted to the Ordinary of t!ie diocese, jjroperty of tluit kind would have yone to the Bishop of Quehec or to the liishop of Montreal. Such was the contention of the church at that time, and from that day up to this, the ecclesiastical autiioritios oftlio Province of (iuel)tc have never ceased to claim that property as rightly helon^^in,::; to them. There has been a continuation of the protests from that moment to the present. Protests were uuide on these dates : 1. 4tt) I'cbniitry, IT'.i:^. l)y tiio citizens of Quobcc — :'. IStli Novfiiibcr, IT'.t'.t, l-y iti.sfiiacc .leaii Fi!iii(;<-)i.s Ilulioit, Iji.-hoj) ol" (^iioIkh" .i. Altoufc tilt? year IS;j."), t)y ilis (ii'aco .'or-cpli Sii.'i:ay, I'i.sliop of (^iobcc ; His (irjic Pierro Kiavieu 'l'ur;;(>i)ii. Jjishoji of Sy<limo, ( o.idjutov oi (^iicljec : Ihs ( iraco .le.iii -I a^'- nut's l.aitignc, Bishop ot IV'hiHKse/Jiiind Vicar of tlie district ol ^Montreal — i. .laiiiuiry, lSt.'),by Hi.s Jracc .fo.si'jih ."sigiuiyj.Aroii- bisho)) ot (Quebec, auil by the Bishops of .Montrv.'ii, Kiiig.iton ami Toronto ."). .luno, 1S47, t)y tlie clcriry of the dioceses of Montreal and (Quebec. — (>. .lannai'v, 1S74, hy the Rev. Father 'I'heopliile Clianaux. Superior (ieneral of the .Jesuits' Mission in (ana la — 7. 'Jth Octoiier, 1'^7S, by the Archbishop of (Quebec and Bishops of Three Hivei's, Riniouski. Montreal, .'^lierbrook e, Ottawa, St. Hyacintho and Cliicoutiuii. — ^. l.'nd .lanuary, !S8.1, liy the Archbishop of Quebec. 8o you see that from the moment the British iOG «rEECII n (jovornineut took i;;)S.se.s.sioii of these estates, the church authorities of the Province of Quebec MA'tJt rKA:-i:i) TO CLAIM THEM an tlieir own. Now, eoiihl (liat matter have remained in that eoiulition ■/ Cuuhl it he said in a Catlidlic iro- ns country like the Province of (iuclir'c. that such ] tests would r(iniain unheeded? Tini(! and a'^ain, you are aware, the (iovernment of (iuehci; attempted to dispose! of tiies<) est;ile.s and to settle tlu; (juestion. Mr. Mereier is not tiie llr-d man in ollloe who attempted to deal with this ciuest! <n. Time and a^ain his pre- decessors attempted in iU) tin; same tliinjf. There was a reason I'or that. Tliose estates are valued to- day l>y Mr. llivard. supi'rintendent of the estates, at the sum of i?l,2i)(l.'Kli). They yield a revenue of only f?22,(J(tJ). less than li per cent. Smnc! of the prt»perty is without any annual value. Take for instance the old colh.'^e of the Jeauits in Quebec, right in the centre of the city, o])po«ite the ilasilica. That pro- l)crty today does not f,dve one cent of revenue, on the contrary it is a burden upon the exche<iuer of the Province, whereas, were the proiicrty dispo-ed of,it would sell to advantage. Time and tinn- again, the Government of Quebec have attcMnptc^l to dispose of it. Ijut (ivery time the (rovernmeut placed it in the market, the religious authorities came forward and claimed the property as their own, and reiulercd the a.tte!npts at sale abortive. Was that forever to remain thus? Tlie (juestion was opened more than mice. ^Ir. Deliouchcrville, in 187^, endeavored to enter into negotiations to settle the case with tlie religioug authorities of the Province. lie did not succeed. It has been asserted many times in the press, though the fact ha-< never been stated ofhcially, that Mr. nha])!eau. when in olHoe, entered into negotiations with the religious authorities, and went so far as to ofler 8o00,00U for the removal of the claims of the reli<i-ious autliorities on these estates. Of this I do ON THE .IK.sriTS KSTATES 1!II,T, -07 iiot know the exact tnitli. I ciui inily sprak rioiii the I'umorH ))iihli^'h(Ml in tlio presH. Hut ii is (|uite certain that Mr. Hohh, wlio succceihMl him ;;^ rrcniier u lew years afterwards, entered into ni'^'otiatinnp for tlie settlement of the estatesi. Notliing canieoftiii' uejiotiatlons, and why? Uccau.-e it reijuired some coiiraue to deal witii the (iiicstinn and to .settle it, liecau.-eit was certain that whoever der.lt with it, would liavc to face nuich prejuulce, aa those events have proved. MK. MKliCIKK HAD TUF, CoriJAOK to grapijlc with this question and to settle it, and, if nuthinjj; el.se in the career of Mr. Mercier remained to stamp him as a statesman, there would he this, that he had the courage to deal with this (iU('-<tion, and this would give him that title. The (piestion, T think, had to he settled. In what numner was it settled ? It was settUul ju.^t in the manner which was most fair to all : it was settled hv coiupronnso. Mr. Mer- cier in effect said to the religious authorities: I hold these estates as the rejjresenlative of the C-'rown ; the right lielongs to the province of Quehec; ; our title to them is legal; I do not admit that you have a legal title to them, while on the (jther hand you ]tretend you have a legal title. ]'>e tliat as il may, he saiil, let us make a sacrifice each of our )n'etensiuns : T hold tlie projjerty and the whole of the estates, and you claim the wdiole of them ; let us com])romise, and" let us settle the (luestion forever. Now, T ask every man in this House, no matter what his iirejudice may he, I ask the honorahle memher for Muskoka (Mr. (J'Brien) himself, in whose fairness I have the greatest confi- dence, was there ever a mf)re fair method ailopted of disposing of a puhlic question than that which was adopted in this case? Of cour,-e, it is (luite ea^iy for the editor in his easy chair, it is (juite easy lor the piuhlisher in his oilice, it is (juite easy for the clergy- man in his study, to settle questions according to I r.08 Pi'KErn fixf-d tlicnrif!'^. iiut tlic publif iii.'in \n ofTioo or in Opiio- sitioti cuuiKit HctlU; a (juestion accorclin^ to lixcil tlu'oricH, hut lio lijts to consult tli(( wislioH, tint oiily tlio wialu^;^, aye, hut the passions and tlie prcjuiluicM ol'tlic iM(0|(h! with uiioni lii- hiH to (U'ul. And in ii country like tiic iirovincc ot' iiiui'hoo w here Ihorc iire nior(! tiian 1 ,( )(!().( i(i() of (Jatiioiici inhahitiint.s, witii u reguhirly confllitutod hirrarchy, witli such ii. tdaini ns tlie Ciitholic oi'clr>«ia.^ti('al authoritios cnuhl picHont. WHS it lu be aaid that thi." (lucsliou SIIOI I.n FOR KVKlf. kKMAIN ol'KN ';af :, and iiu'5»c lands never ho dispoFied of for tho advan- tajre of the cx('ho(iiu'r of thf I'rovinco ? It sopuihi to tn(! that upon that (lU''^tion F can appi^al ai!;iin wit It conlideiwu) It) tho tcstiinony of all tho'^c wlio will approach the (piostion with an uuhiass(Ml mind. Alter a.ll. Mr. Sp< akor, there is hut •)ne way which has been invented yet to c;'overn men .sa.tisfactorily, and it i.s to •,ntvern ihom according; to the wishes which are expresstHl by public opinion. I do not mean to say that i)ubli'- opiiiion is alwn> rf ri;.dit,that ]uiblic opinion always comes \\[\ to tlu; standard of eternal justice or truth ; I do not mean to pay that public opinion always comes u]) to the standard of wordlv wis(b)m, but if you govern the peoi)le ace()r(linp; to public opinion you are sure to have peace and harmony in the land and when this question was settled it was settled accordinu to the wishes of the i)ublic opinion in the province of Quebec, and by so doing you have peace and harmony in the land. Now, if you are to attem})t to ovi^rritle the well known wishes of the population of the province of <iuebec, instead of harmony and ])eace, you will have probably discord, the conseiiuences of which I would fear to h)olv at. Such is the reason why this ([Uestion has been settled in the manner in which it has l)een settled. IJut it has been insisted by the honorable mendjer for Siincoe (Mr. McCarthy) and Ijy some other honorable mem- ON TIIK 'ESIITS' EmTATKS BIM. rr,9 liciH iiUo, that this leniflhitioii wuh oircnhivr iVoin u I'rotestiuit point of view. Well Htran^'oto say, tlio I'nitcstiUit iiiitioiMty in r('i)r<'S(Mit('(l in the r-c;:ishitur(f 111' the in'iivilirc nl' (^iW'iifC. TlicV hliVc, 11' I ItliicnililT ri^'htly, Bonin 12 mciiiln-rs ol'tlic i'r()tt'.-<taiil ittTsiiaHinii ill tho I'rovincial I.cj^'islutMii', A\'h' n thi-i iiu(-<ti(m canio to he discuHst'd TWO .\It.Ml!l-;US OM.V I'Uo'l'K.'-rKl), and tlu'y jirotcstcd vory mildly. And th<y protritcd againnl what'.'' Only a,nain?-:t one slnj^le icalui'e ol'tlic act, against the fact tiuit the name oflfis Iloliiu-ss the I'opc appcjircid in tlio picamld(^ of the act. Mr. Merc ier j^nvc them at tliat moineut the; very answer (luoted yesterday hy tlie Minister of Justice, and he t(dd them : Tf yon do not want the name of the l'o}ie in this matter, you will sn,i;-;:'e.'-l the name of any one to put in his i)lace. It was a comprond.=e with tlio reli;_Mous authorities of the provinc(> of (iuehce, and I think Mr. .Mercier acted fairly and i)rudenHy in dealin^' directly with th(^ head of the Roman Catiiolic church, lli.s arguments wer<.' so convincing that tho.-^e ohjections were not pressed, the act passed uriani- nnuisly, and Mr. Mercier was enahled to sp<'ak in tlie following terms of the attitude of his I'rotestant col- leagues : — I tliiiiik tiif i'lotcstiint memhors tor tlio moderation witli wliicli they liiivr ilisrusscil tills iiucstion. It is ;i Lrood ruaeii. 'I'lic unaiiiinity whioli now jJieviiils is ii jn'Odt'tliat the (liU't'ivnt rucoa of which our poiniliitioii i.s coniiiosod.liiive livtul in peace and harmony iiiid appioacli tlie most dclic'ite f|ii('.stions with tliut spirit of oonciliiition which accoinjilislu's woiiuiM's when it is piojierly diroctiul. Well, this legislation is not satist'actory to our Protestant friends, or to .some of them at least from Ontario. Still if the J'rotestants of (Quebec are satis- tied, who can object '.■' I understood that it was said a moment ago by the honorable memljer fur liunt- ) 1 I il 610 SPEECH ingdon (Mr. Scrivor"). that tlie Prntostauts of Quebec are not all Siitisfied. They may not all be satisiied, indeed. It is very seldom that upon any question that may come up men of the same creed, of tlie same race, "will I'c entirely satisfied ; but if anybody has a ri^dit to s-j/cak for the Protestant minority of the jiro- vince of Quel)cc, are they not %■■ ■ . ■ •; 4 -1 ■■-I §>:•. : ' *■ THOSE Win. ATIE ei.ei;tei.' })y the [leoplc of that province to represent them in 'the Legislature, antl if tlie.je do not choose to make any reitresentation. if the^e on the contrary say that after all this (luestion has been settled and ai)i)roved, no one else has the right to complain. But the honor- able juenil)er for Simcoe (.Mr. ,^^cC'arthy), it a|)pears. has no ointidence in tliose wlio Mpresent his fellow countrymen in the province of (Quebec. If I am to belicN e what he said yesterday, lie has Imt a poor opini')n of those who iiavo lieen entrusted by his fellow religionists in the province to take charge of their in^^arcsts in the Legislature. These were his words yeste'\lay : Does tliis look as if tlio I'roto.stants oT the proviriiKi of Quel)ec were <lesiroiis, and willing, an 1 anxiou.s that this legis- lation sliouM vom liti unchangi^d, or ih.ios it not look as if, wave tlie Protos:ant ininoiity in that province given rcasoualilc encouriigi'iui'n*:, th''y woiiM gi't ji'stice — an'l no niori' than jtistioe aro t'ney entitled to, an 1 no more than jvi.-tiuo 1 hope thoy will cvtjr ask tor — fVoir. the Pariiauieiit of this country, 'riion they will be up and doing, to get their sh ire of the legis- lation, but in the lA^gislaturo of that province, cijupose 1 as it is now, tlii>y caniiot (wpect it. Th'M'e wa-i no Protestant repre- sentative in tiie Cabinet ol tliat province niuil reeentlv, ai I, when one was clvosen, lie had to be elected in spite :f the vote of the Protestaiit iinnority. Now, Yv'ithout going any farther, I wish to take issue u"pon this i)oint with the honoralde gentleman from North Sioicoe (Mr. McCarthy), when he savs I : i4 I I! m «| ox .lESriTS ESTATE nil.T. Till Lorp tliiit Colcinfl Illindpy was imt olcclcd in M(\2anti(^ liy the i'ldtestant minority. Tlio Cnunty ol .\|(';:antio is a mixed county. Colonel Rhodes, the Minister ot Afrricultuve, was elected two or three ni(»nths after this Act has l)een i^assed. and it was an issue u])on wliich the electors hiul to ])ass. Colonel Uhodes polled the majority of the Krencli and Catholic votes. Imt T say that Colonel Rhodes iilso polled the majority ot' th(> I'rotestant votes. As to this T do not pivo my own testimony. I have not yet had an occasuai to look at the (ip-ures. But I give the testimony o( Colonel Rhodes himself, who. on the day of the elec- tion, teletrrajihed that he had heen upheld hy the majority of the I*rotestant electors of the County of Megantie. Then the honi'rahle mendter for North 8imcoe (Mr. McCarthy) goe.s on to say. I (\'in unileistanl that, if tliero were ii tii^htiug m;in in tlifU llduse, like the honorable nieuibcr who leads tlie thinl party here, theie nii^ht l)e a clianec; of ohtaining sometliui^' ,'il'Ci' justice, Imt men with that .-kill and .alulity, witli parlia- mental y khnwlcilge to ha-.k it, are not to in- found every day, and we are not to jml.^e ilie Protestant representatives of tl*e province ot'(2u(liee lai that hiLili .-tandaid. And why not. ]Mr. Speaker. " cf that high stand- ard ? " Can it he that the Protestants of the province of Quehec, who have placed themselves at the head of the trade of the country, still are so ]»ackward in this respect tli;it they canitot send to the [.egislature a man of stantling to represent them? Can it 1>(^ that the Protestants of the province of (Quehec liave to he taken under thi^ fostering care of my honor.dde friend from Simcoe ? Can it he thai they '■\ j II It ifi CANNOT MANAC.E TP.EIIl OWN AFKAIliS? Can it he they cannot look after their own interests? I have .iiore eonfidence than my honorahle friend in the ah'iity (>fthe Protestant rej>resentatives in the province of Qutl'eo. hecause T happen to know they f ,^'tiii»^:aiii«fe>»i.- 512 SPEECH i [I'i V! are men of inerit, men of ability, and somo (jf tlio greatest abi'ity. lUit, Mr. Speaker, if tliat is ilie opinion wliitli tlie honorable gentleman entertains of liis own countrymen and co-re'iginnists in the pro- vince of Que'.jec ; if he Ijelieves that tliey are n(jt ,ihlo to take eare of their own intere-^ts. but {hat tlie Pro- testant? of other provinces must come to their rescue, perhaps lie would Ite interested to know what is the opinion which is entertained by :=oine of tiie Protest- ants of (iuebec of those too zealous Protestants of the province of Ontario who want to lake up the cudgels <)u their behalf. I hold in niy hand an. extract from a pa[ier published in tlie Ka-(ern Townshi|)S. the Waterloo Ailvcriisrr. edited by a disciple and a life- long friend of the late Mr. iruntin'j;t!in. as good and as strcjng a Protestant as ever lived. This is how the paper S])eaks ; IS Evoiy patriotic Ciiiialiaii iiui-t di>iiloi(> h? intemppratp discussion tiiat Iris heoii provoki-il liy the .Ji-uits' bill, riio iiu'asm'(^ has htmo.ni^ law, and no amount of coiitrovcr-v can altor the I'act. It is altogetluM' 11k> do:ui'stin concern oi' the *l)!'0vini'0 ot Quol)L'(;, .'ind any outside inti'rl'ci'once is si:uply ineilillesonic ami impertinent. Thu parsons and the (Jran^o- im-n of ( )ntarlo have joined hands to make war on the Catholics ot'ti'ueVjoc!. The LoLrisIature has scttleij the old <lisi)utc, nwr the .Jesuits' estates in a iuann(^r satisfactory to the peoiile. .\ source ol ii-ritalion and iliseontent lias been remove<l once for ail. The.Jesuits' 'Jill passed the Legislatiu'c, practically, with- out a dissenting voice. The chosen representatives el the Protestiuit luinoiity accepted it as a fair settlement of ;i vexed question. Tin.' basis of settlement called ibr an expenditure of piiblie fun<ls, and to obviate any possibility of jealousy on the ])art of the Protestant minority proportionate sum was at the same time voted for the trotestant education. That was fair amlju.-t and it was so uiiiUM'stooil by the minority. The Protest- ant minority in tiiis i>rovinoe i< cpiite al)le to take care ol itself. In the i)Ui'i'ly domestic coneefn< of the |jiovince, it ad\s no a-sistaiice and exjiects no syiiij athy from outsitlers. Taking it all in all,the minority has been fairly treated by the majority. There may have been friction at times, but there has not been in the history of the province an instance in which the powers of tlie majority have been used to crush or injure the ininoiity. ON TIIK JESUITS ESTATES DILL 513 If the {';itlio!k's ami Protestants arc aide to got along togctluu' peac .'ably, why shouM Ontario interfere? Tlie FrotestanD minority as a uiiole has not and does not eomplain of the .I(*suit settlement. Jt is reco^ni/.ed by broad niindt'(l and ]iatrintic men as lioing the Ijest thing that could have been done inider the eircnm.-tances. Sucli, ]\Ii'. Spcjikcr, is tho opinion ontortiiined in the Eastern Townsliips at least liy one section of ilio people. N()\v,tny honorable friend from llunlhigilon (Mr Scviver) a moment ago referred to the TUEATMENT oF THE MINORITY in tlie province of Quebec. I have the greatest res- pect, as my friend laiows, for everything which he utters, an<l T am sure ho will agree witii me in one thing — if the Protestant minority in the i)rovinceof Q.uebec have an} thing to complain of — and I listened to \\\\[\t might be calhid the list of grievances which we heard read to-day by the honorable member for NorfolkC.Mr. Charlton) — but if the Protestantnnnority have anything to complain of, I ask : Are thcv not themselves rc3[)onsible for it ? In all that list of gri(!v- ai\ces which were read, is there an act of legislation against which they have ever protested ? Have they not always supjiortb 1 Ihs Conservative i)arty which hag always l)een in [jower, and has not every one of these items in the list which we have heard recited an grievances, lioen passeil by the Conservative jiarty ■which the Protestants of Queliec always sup[)ort ? 8ir, I have si.nply to say this, speaking as a Canadian of French origin, that if my fellow-countrymen of Ih'itish origin have any grievances, real or imaginary, let them come before the Legislature of <iuebec ; and al- thctugh T have not a seat in that T erislature I can claim that I have some inlluence there; nay, I do not want any inlluence, I know that the m.'ijority of the mem- bers in that House, the < on.scrvative minority as well, ■would be ever ready to give them what remedial le- gishition tliev may think for tlnir bcuetit. But up to 32 i \ \ '^^l! 514 .SPEECH a few duys ago, T never beard tliat the Protestant minority HAD ANYTHINf; TO CO.MI'I.A IN (iF in the treatment whicli they have received iVom (lie majority ot' tlie province of Quebec, and if they bad any seriou.-^ Lrrievanc(^:;, can it be tiihl upon the llooi ot thin, Parlianiont that tlie.se grievances would not have been ventilated before the representatives of the jicoplo? I re[)eat what I said a moment ago. ft is quite easy for the editor in bis chair, or the clergy- man in bis i-tudy, nr for any parly who ha^ no re- sponsibility to the i)ublic at large — it is quri-e easy for them tn determine (piestions by fixed theories, but it is another thing to fix them nci^ording to the will of the peo])le. and I do i^ot admit that there is any serious grievance so long as tliose grievances arc not venti- lated uiion the lloor of the House of the Provincinl Parliament. The iionorable member for riimeoe (Mr. McCarlliy) also said something yesterday about ^^r laimed that Mr. Jolv had I'cn ousted tVdin Joly.Hei pnliiic lil'e. 1 do nut know by whom, but I supjin he iiK^ant bv the Liberal i)arty. Mr. McCarthy :— Tfear. hear ! Mr. L.-.nrier : — The homiraide mem^iev says : '" htar. hear." Mr. Joly had been in power for some eighteen months and he was ousted from jiower by the must dishone.-'t warfare which ever public man had to sutfer in this country. Mr Joly was ousted fmm power largely by a violation of the constitution, perpetrated Iiythis Parliament, and in which the honorable member for Simcoc Avas himself instrumental. Tf Mr. Joly had had anything like I'air play, I believe that to this day he wonhl have been in power in the province of Quebec. Mr. Joly never had anything to suffer at the hands of the Liberal jiarty ; on the contrary, Mr. Joly is a man for whom we have the greatest respect. We have ditTered from him upon one (juestion, and one question only, the question which arose out of Wfi ON THE .IKSriTS ESTATK.S lUr.I, 515 tlie rchcllinii in tlip North- Wc^t. r[>iiii that (jut'-;tiim Mr.Joly took one course, and wo took a different course. I am imt to articur this (luestion over afj;aiu, Init I have simply to -ay thi.s to tlie honoral)le memlier for Simcoe. that in the hisl election whicli took place in Megantic. where a I'rote=tant repiosentativo ol'the CaliiiU'l 111' Mr. Mcicior was hoforc t!u' peojije. and wlii'U this very question was to he testcil at tiic poll.<, .Ml'. .lolv came down AM> srrrouTKP thk i amud.vtk and the policy of the (iovernuient. It is evident. .M r. fc^l eaker, I'rom tlie discussion which we have iiad in this I'arliamcnt since yesterday, that though the Act if objectionahle to some })eople — and T find no t'ault ^vith the honoralilc nicndier for Muskoka. T find no fault with my honcrahle friend for i^inieoe, f;ir hold- ing the views they hold —I would not attrihute to them iither than ihe motive of conscience, that they aie doing what they think for the hest. they arerepre- fienting what they deem to he in the interest of the l)eoi)le at large — hut it is manifest to me that their judgm at has been consideral)iy Idassed hy tlie fact that the name of the Jesuits has been introduced in that legislation. It seem-i to me manifest that the apipearance of that name has evoked a fresh outhurst of hostility wduch that celebrated order has been sub- jected to in many lands and in many ages. Now, it is said that they are dangerous men. Sujipose all that has been said were true, wouldthat lie any reason to refuse them the justice to which they are entitled? Suppose they were dangerous men, as it is represented they are ; that might perhajis be a reason to refuse them civil rights, to rei'usethem recognition. lUit they were incorporated by the province of Quebec two years ago, and the act whicli incorporated them re- ceived the approval of one of those weak Protestants, according to the member for Simcoe, who represent the u.iuority in the Legislature of Quebec. Mr. ti -V'.W-l- 0: m>..- i 516 SPEECH Lynch, a fellow Conservative of the honorable mem- ber for Simcoe, speaking on that occasion, used this remarkable language ; — Mr. Lynch, on the bill to incorjiorate the Jesuits, saiil that, notwithstaiiding Avliat might be thought in some quartiM's, tlierc was nothing in the bill alarniin'^ in its chararlci'. We were living in an age when wisdom i)rovaileil, living in an ago when li-eeilom was sni>)iose(l to exist the world ovei-. and no- where in the Dominion of Her ^Majesty did liberty i)revail more than in the province ol' (Quebec. In committee, with a consi- deration of fairness which characterized members of the House, certain portions of the preamide were stiiick out. Now is it possible that the intelligent public opinion of the province of Quebec should deny those .Jesuit Fathers the civil I'itihts which we have gianted to everyone else? If there is any religious aspect to this i|U(>stion,it should be settled elsewhere than in this House. If there is anything in this bill against civil rights, let us sti ike it out. Untd this is shown,! am prepared to support this bill. .1 i 1 I ; .1; And 3Upi)orted the 1)111 was, and it became law. Under such circumstances, it seems to me tliat the explosion of bitterness which we have seen to-day and yesterday COMES RATHER TARDILY. But, Sir, any man, be he friend or foe of the Jesuit Order, must at least give them credit for this, that they re;)el and deny all the charges which are made aganiftt them ; they repel and deny the dangerous doctrines whicli are attributed to them. Now, I would not enter upon lliat question for one moment were it not for the remarks which fell to-day from my friend the honorable member for Nortli Norfolk (Mr. Cliarl- ton ) ; l)ut I cannot allow sucli views as those which have been expressed to pass without some comment, though this iir not the proper sphere or time either to defend or attack the Jesuits. Kvery one fai\dliar with French literature knows that Pascal, in his celeijrated " Lettres Provinciales, "' has (juoted several para- ■ims^HMkOiiS^ilK ON THE JESUITS' ESTATES HILL 51'; graphs, wiiicli he attributes to the Jesuits, of very oh- joctioruible ch.iracter. T liavc not been ubh; for my part to discover those extra(!ts ; I have often sought for tlie text Ixioks; but could not find them, and I cannot say whether tliey are ri<;lit or wrong. J>ut I know this, that writers of as great eminence as Pascal have asserted over and over again that all the statements upon which Pascal based his accusations have been refuted, time and again, ])y members of the Jesuit Order. Now, the Jesuits, it is admitted, are a body of able Tiieu. and, it must be admitted also, are a, l»ody of pure men. and they are characterized by knowledge ami high attainments ; but they are men. are la Uil lie. and it would be strange indee I if in order some were not ibund to write they sueli a numerou objectional)le things. lUit suppose one of an order were found to write objectionable things would it fol- low that the whole order ought to beheld responsible, as was said by nua member? So are you to conclude that, because one of the order happens to write objec- tionable things, the whole order are to be condemned? Tt would be just as if you were to condemn all the Protestant divines of Ontario becau-io the Ilev. Dr. Wild said, a few days ago, that to kill a Jesuit was no crime. T will not, ^[r. Speaker, push this contro- versy any further. This is not the place, I say, to attack the Jesuits, nor the jdaccto defend them. The place to attack the Jesuits, in so far as this l.)ill is con- cerned, was the Legislature of Quebec; but, whether a man be a friend or a foe of the Jesuits, it seems to me that their history in Canada, whatever it may have been in other lands, has been such as to com- mand not only admiration, but the greatest admira- tion. They have been THE PIONEERS OF THIS COUNTRY. In the language of a great historian, not a cape was turned, imt a river was entered, but a Jesuit led the wav. Everv inch of the soil of Ontario was trodden >s:: ! '■-i^immmi^mst^y ;is SPEECH 1;l m I Ijli '. .I.,J ■' I., 4 ■ Ttv tlieir woary foot at least I'O 3'eivr3 boforo tliere Wii«< iin iMiu'li^ili .settler in that province. Nay. the very soil of the province has hecii conBecrated by tlieir Mood, slied ill their attoiimt.-^ to win over .stnilji to the (iiid (if Prote.-laiit.-; and Cathol alike. Of the J("-iiit.s T have nothing- more to say. The (juestion, as T .say is not one lit foi' this audience ; if it is lo he di SCU'SPH it should he (liscus8(>d el-ewhere than here. lUit the resolution asserts tiiafthey have heen expelled. The honorahle nieuiber for Sinicoe staled yesterday that they have been expelled from several countries ; and the hunorablo niendier for North Xorf'tlk stated to- day that ihey have been expelled from twenty dilFe- rent countries. Sir, this is true ; Imt, what is equally true, thev have never yet lieen expelled from a free country. They have been expelled from countrieg where tru" principles of human freedom, such as' we understand theni in I'ritish coiudries, were not nndeistood. The honorahle geidleman told us yes- terday that they had lieen expelled from German v in 1872.' Why is it. in a British Assembly, that "the example of Ciermany will be given to us to imitate? Does the honorable gentleman hold that because the Jesuits have been exi)elle(l from (.Jermany— (Germany ruled by a man of genius, but a desi)ot after all — such an example shouhl be followed here? ^V'' h;!ve been tcdd tliat the Jesuits were expelled from Fiance in 1880. Yes, they were; andtoth^. shame of the French republic be it said. But THEY AKE -%OT THE ONLY MEN who were expelled by that (oA'ernmcnt. Tn b^"^" six or seven different religious connnunitics were exjiel- led. Sisters of Charity were expelled— angels on earth, if there are any, women who rcoounce every- thing that life can give in order to give their life up to tlie daily maintenance and succor of those who are poor, helple-s and suffering. Not only those religious cmtimunities, liut the princis of the House mH O.N TIIK .IF.SIITS KSTATICS r.Il.I, '.I'.t ofOrleaiH wore also expelled from Franco — nu'ii who were the t'lila ui' Kr;i.nco. luon ol" whom more tlian forty years ago, Prince Molternich said, when they were intluMr boyhood; '' They are younj^ men .such a.s there arc few and prince.-i such as there are none. '" The ])uc (rAuma'o. one of them, was expelled, one of the noblest Hohliors of tin; French army, a man whose goul is so hij^di that the only nuinner in which he reijuited the cruel treatment meted out tn him wa-; to make a gift to the ungrateful nation of the Ciiatcau do Chautilly with all its art Ireasuro-;. T have only this to say to an honorable gentleman whi» brings such arguments as these: T feel ton thousand times })roude)' of my native land, which can deal justly and generously with the Jesuits, than of the land of my ancestors, which, though a republic, is to-day so ro- trogaile in its constitution ^and practice of frocdom. that it banishes those who ilo not come up to the standard of its own citizenship. In this matter, I am reminded tliat tlie honorable gentleman t'rom Simcoe (.Mr. .McCarthy) yestordaj' stated that wo of French origin sometimtis forget that this is a JJritish country. I have his Wi)rds here and T want to ((uote them ; \Vo must iim'or t'oi<i:pt, saiil ho, I am atVai'l tli:it soiae ol my fri(>nils IVom tlic I'lOvinciMit' (iuelxic- ilo .snmi^timi's forgot that tliis is a British oountiy, tliat liy tlio Ihitmn^s of war lliat event was doeiiled, and the greater half of this continent pas- sed over to the British (Jrown. Whatdid the honm-able gentleman mean by that? I wish he had said ;i little more or a little loss. I wish he had not contented himself with mtdsing an insinuation, but that, if he had a cliargo to make, he should hiive had the pluck ami the courage to make it. I tell this to tho honorable gentleman. I am of French origin ;ind T am proud of my origin, and I know my fellow countrymen of Anglo Saxon race too well not to be aware that if I h;id not the jtride of my origin in my heart tliey would never think of me but with the contempt which I should deserve. I am of French origin, but r If ^m ^^■^m^mmm.i. ^.■♦iUSk» J!': i \f m 4 m 520 fTEECH ■■:;! I AM A IMUTISII SLT.JDCT. The liDUoraMo mpiulicr for North Niirr<>lk- (Mr.riiarl- ton) said, a niomciit aj;(»,lhat there sh()uld be but unc race here. Mr. :\rcrarthy :— Tfoar. lioar ! Mr. r.auricr : — The hDiioriiMo ffontlcinnu .say.s "hear, hear." Well, what would tliat race he ? I^ it theltritisli lion that is to swallow the French lanili,or the French lainh that is to f-waUow tlie liritish lion ? There can he more than one race. l)ut tliere sliall he hut one nation. Scot hind has not for.ifotten her oi'i^rin. as far as T know, Imt Scotland is jiritisii. T do not intend to forjjjct nij' orijrin. Iiut T am a Canadian he- fore everythiiiff. Let mo state thi.s further to my honor- able friend, T have the pride of my oiigin ; I feel the ptreiiji,thnf the blood \\hicli flows in my veins, but. in the language of tlie Latin poet, I say : lltuHO .sum ; huinaiii nihil ii ino alionuin puto. " I am a nian ; nothirip; that relates to man is foreign to my sym[)athy ;" but, at the same time, though T would never forget the language of my race, tbe language which my mother taught me, I say to Ibe honoral)lo gentleman that if I had my choice to return to French allegiance, never would I consent to do so. I do not speak only my own feelings when T thus speak, but 1 voice tlie feeling.^ of every one of my countrymen. I do not give utterance merely to the feelings of tbose who sit Iteside me, but I am sure I ppeak the feelings of those F^'rench C'anadians who sit on the other side as well, when I say that if to-day a poll was taken in tbe province of Quebec, or all through the Dominion of Canada, giving a choice between allegiance to F^ngland or allegiance to France, tbere would not lie one single vote east in favor of a return to the allegiance to France. We would remain Britisb subjects ; but because Ave are 13ritish subjects, is it to be expected tbat we shall turn ON THE .IKMITS' ESTATES BII.I, 521 TUAirnii< '1(1 ovn ()1!k;in, tfiiilors to evfrytliing tliat iT.akos life valualilc? Wlmt would lio life if a man had not in his veins and in hin heart a feelin^.^ lor the hjood of his own coun- try? The lionorahle gentleman told us yesterday that lie was an Irishman. Would he deny the land ol'his nneestors? Well, T would jiity him from niy lieart if lie would. J'.ut. after all. il' ever we were to forget that we are of Freneh origin. I am sure we could not i'orgf t it in view of the agitation which is now goin<( on in the provinc(M)f Ontario, hecause from day to day, from week to week, in a certain press, we have been a]))iealed to — we of Freneh origin — as Liherals of French origin — lo vote for disallowance agaii)>t the .Tcsuitfl" Act. From day to (|;iy in a certain press, the Fiiberals of th(» {jrovimc of (iuehec have been aji- ]>ealed to vote against the (lovernment on this ques- tion ; and in my hand I hold one of the last issues, in wliicli ai'ter having recited all the villanies of which the Jesuits are aceuseil. the eilitor continues as follows : — It is .safe to say, tlii'ielbro, thiit if tlic Litior.'il.s of luiiilaiid or ol' I'ranr.e were in the position of Mr. I/iiirici' fiuil his tul- lowois they would not licsitat(! a moment in killing this con- siiiracy in (^Uudn'c. {'".ven it tliey did not iiol.l the Act to l)i' al>soiu tciy iiiicotistitntioiiid they would cii'tainiy veto lor its <lisallo\vunco a.s heing contiary to the puhlic intt-rest. Well, as far as reference is made to the Liberals of France, I have no doubt the editor is quite correct, No doul.it, if the Fiherals of France had the power to vote on this (juestion, they would certainly disallow this Act ; but I have this to say, that T am not and we are not Liberals of the French school. I have not said it once but ten times and twenty times in my own province, that I am A I.ll'.KRAL OF THE ENGLISH SCHOOL, that I and my friends have nothing in common with l'4? ' r [> m IMAGE EVALUATION TEST TARGET (MT-3) 1.0 I.I 1.25 *" IIIIIM IM ' ilM IIIIIZ2 ^ m ^ iiiiii U IIIIII.6 v: ^ /}. A •^ ^'n ^<3 % ^^. ■rj* ••>■ ^^ '^ '/ Photographic Sciences Corporation # <v L1>' \\ O^ ■%^ <*) n? 23 WEST MAIN STREET WEBSTER, N.Y. 14580 (716) 872-4503 <^ .<'. ^ ^ .")22 SPEECH the Liljeruls of Franco. A short time iigo, I wiis sorry to liear my honorable I'riond from Norfolk (.Mr. Charlton) exprcs.s regret that there was no Troteatant party, as far tm I understood him. Tliere are men of my own riico, who entertain the same view as the hoiiorahle gentleman, and would desire to have a Catholic party. I have alvay.-' raLsed my voiceagaiu:<t that doctrine, and, as far hack a.s 1877. s[ieaking to a French audience in the French language in the city which I have the honor to .(^pre-eiit now, the good old city of (iuehec, I useil to those who, like my hono'-ahle friend, would separate men upon the ground of creed, this language: ^'on wiih to orgiini/.i' idl the Catliolios inoiie party, uitlirxit any other tie, without any otlier basis than tlie cominunitv ol relitrioii, liut have you not rcflpcted tl)at, hy that vei'V fact, yon will oi'^.mi/' tlie Protestant ))0)iulatioii a-) one jiaity. and that tlien, inste.'id of the peace and haiinony whi^'li e.xist to- day I'l-twt 'i the diil'erent eh'Micnts of th<3 Canadiaii popuhi- tion.you woiil! bring on war, religioiis w.ir, the most disastrous of all wars ? Those were my sentiments ten years ago ; those ari' my sentiments to-day. My honoraMc friend from Norfolk (.Mr. (.Miarlton) stated that we should not allow this Act because the Jesuits are inimical to liberty. .Such a statement would not surprise me in the mouth of a Liberal from France, but it does surprise me to liear it on the floor of this Parliament. Are we to be told that, because men are inimical to liberty, they shall not be given liberty? In our own doctrine and in our own view, liberty sliines not only for the friends of lilierty. but also for the enemies of liberty. We make no diifTerence whatever : and. as far as the Lilierals of England are concerned, T am sure of one thing, that, if they were here, they would never vote as the editor of the .l/('7 supposes they would. The Liberals of England have been for the last century and more SPEECH ON THE JESl'ITS' ESTATES 1511,1, 023 r THE CHAMPIONS OK I'UEEDOM fill over the av or Id, and, ifweliave freedom to-day, as we understand it in tliis country and in this age, it is largely due to the efforts of the Liberal i)arty in England. They understood long ago that liherty is not only for the friends of liberty, but for all. Tlioy understood long ago that the security of the State depends entirely upon the utmost freedom being given to all npinions, that no one is to ])e canvassed for his opinion, right or wrong, but that the utmost freedom shall be given to all oi)inion9, and that the l)opuIar judgment will decide l^etweon the grain and the chaff, will select llie one and reject the other. Thf ■. i,-: the princip' which I have, in my humble way, ''nU*. "voiod to inoulcate for many years amooL'st my felh- ,> .ourirymen of French origin. That, with a steadfast adherence to the I'roadest . principles of constitutional fr>"'edom, is the guiding star which, in the station I now occupy and in any station T maj'^ have in life, I shall ever endeavor to follow. I c m m\ JUNE, 1889 NATIONAL FESTIVAL OF THE FRENCH CANADIANS MR, LAURIER's reflections ON THE ROLE OF THE RACE IN- AMERICA In June, 1889, 25,000 French Canadians, from all parts of the continent, assembled at Queliec around a monument raised by their suboriptions to the memory of Jacques Cartier, the discoverer, and of De Brebmuf, one of the first missionaries, of Canada. The festivities lasted during three days and were marked by great splendor. One of the addresses delivered on the occasion and which produced the most etfect was beyond ques'tion Mr. Laurier's rejjly to the toast of " Canada " at the p itfiotic banquet of the 24th June at the Jaccjues Cartier Hall, in the French quarter of St Koch's, which he represents in the Commons. It was as I'ellows: Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen : I have often thought, and the idea has heen impressed on me more than ever by the brilliancy of this day's festivities, that there should be only one celebration of the St Jean Bai)tiste in this country and that that celebration should take place in the good old city of Quebec: I have often thought and I noAv think more than ever that Quebec should be foi French Canadians what Mecca is for Arabia, the city par excellence, the holy city among all. It may be said, perhaps, that I am partial 52G ADDRESS towards Quebec, but to this my simple answer is tbnt I have many reasons for l)eing so and that, far from being ashamed of the fact, I glory in it. For, it must be conceded, there is only one Que- bec. Our Montreal friends, who are with us toniglit and who are with good reason i)roud of their own city will, perhaps, protest ; but t do not allow their ])rote3t9. This continent swarms with cities like Montreal, and I call to witness our friends here present from the United ^states. I am far from wishing to Pay anything disparaging of Montreal, but there is only one Quebec. Cities like jMontreal, with wide, straight, regular streets, are, as an Iri.shman would say. to l)e found at every door. The^e things have their value, certainly, jjut I repeat that there is only one Quebec. What constitutes tiie great charm of Quebec is its variety. the unexpectedness of its aspects ; at each step you make, the scene changes and a new panoriima as ravishing as the previous one, 'but of a different stylo, unrolls itself to your sight. This charm of Quel)ec every one can enjoy : strangers enjoy it as well, and, perhaps, more than we do, because men are so constituted that they do not know liow to sufliciently appreciate what they have themselves. i5ut Quebec possesses another charm, wliicli can be enjoyed in all its plenitude only by us, French (Canadians; it is the charm of memories. Men of Quebec, you are privileged beings. Antiiiuity has preserved for us the memory of a famous ei)itaph, calling on the ])asser-by to stop, as he was treading on the ashes of a hero, but you, men of Quebec, you breathe, live and have your being among the dust of heroes. At each step you make in your city, a monument, a building, a .stone, a glimpse of the sky at the end of a narrow street calls to mind a whole world of heroic events. To-day, you have raised another monument, which will forever perpetuate the memory of the cross planted by the envoy of the king of France, TO THE FRENCH CANADIANS 527 Avlien he took possession of this country in tlie name of his royiil master. This country, however, has not remained Frencii soil. Still we have remained true to the memory of i>ur old mother country. Although separated from France for over a cen- tury and dilfe'ing from her at present in several ways, we have always worshipped her in our hearts, watcli- ng from aiar, but with ceaseless interest, all the ivicissitudes of her agitated career and sharing in her joys and triumpjis, as well as in her disasters and sorrows, still more, indeed, in her sorrows than in her joys. Adversity is the test ot affection and I appeal to you all if it is not true tliat we never realized how dear France was to us as we realized it during the; period of hor reverses, during the fatal years of ls70 and 1S71, when the telograi>]i hrought us the news >>[' defeat instead of the victoiies wliich we Iiad looked for. And when there was no h)nger roiun for douht. when, having hojied against hope, we had. in ovdcr to convince ourselves, to read over and over again the text th harsl aw impose ])V tl le coiKp.ier (>V and when Alsace and Loraine were violently severetl from French territory, I ask you, if we had been deprived of one of our own limbs could wo have sufrered keener anguish ? The toast proposed by Mr. Langelier reminds us that our separation from France has imposed new duties upon us has created new interests and opened new affections to us. We are French Canadians, but our country is m )rifined to the territorv over- shadowed by the citadel of Qu'ibec ; our country is Canada, it is the whole of what is covered bv the British flag on the American continent, the fertile lands bordered by tlie l?ay of Fundy, the Valley of the St. Lawrence, the region of the great bikes, the prairies of the West, the Rocky Mountains, the lands washed bv the famous ocean where breezes are said to 528 ADDRESS be US sweet as the breezes of the Mediterranean. Our fellow-countrymen are not only those in whose veins runs the blood of France. They are all those, what- ever their race or whatever their language, whom the fortune of war, the chances of fate, or their own choice have brought among us, and who acknowledge the sovereignty of the British Crown. As far as I am concerned, loudly do 1 proclaim it, those are my foUow-countrymen, I am a Canadian. But I told it elsewhere, and with greater pleasure, I repeat hero this evening, anKHig all my fellow-countrymen, the first place in my heart is for those in whose veins runs the blood of my own veins. Yet I do not hesi- tate to say that the right'? of my follow-countryTuen of difTerent origins are as dear to me, as sacred to me, as the rights of my own race, and if it unfortunately happened that they ever were attacked, I would defend them with just us much energy and vigor as tlie rights of my own race. I say I : should I not say you, we all of us? Yes, we are too much the sons of France, of that generous nation which has so often shed her blood for the defence of the weak, of the o;ipr( B3ed, not to be ever ready'to defend the riglits of our fellow-countrymen of different nationalities to the same extent as our own. What I claim for us in an equal share of sun of justice, of liberty ; that share we have it ; we have it ample, and what we claim for ourselves we are anxious to grant to others. I do not want French Canadians to domineer over any one, nor any one to domineer over them. Equal justice. Equal rights. It is written that the sands of seas are numbered. It is written that not an hair falls from one's head without the permission of an Eternal Providence, eternally wise. Can we not believe that in that supreme battle here, on the Plains of Abraham, when the fate of arms turned against us, can we not believe that it entered into the decrees of Pro- vidence that the two races, up to that time enemies, should henceforth live in peace and harmony, and henceforth should form one nation ? Such was the inspiring cause of Confederation. TO THE I'liENCll (ANADIANS 52» When the British provinces were united xinder the same constitution, the hope now acknowledged was to give to all the .scattered elenientfi therein a national ideal, to present to the world the npcctacle of a nation diverse in its origins and retaining in all its groups the res])ect I'or family and race traditituis. l)Ut giving thenceforward to all one and the sniue aspiration. I have not forgotten that, at its incei)tion, ('onfederation was not accepted without fear by num- ber of Canadians of French origin, but thcrjiis never- theless one thing for which the French Canadians are entitled to universal iidniiration. The fault of demo- cracies is usually to Hatter the mob. I do not know liow to ilattcr and I shall never st(n)p to play the part of the flatterer, either to crowds or to individuals ; but it is an act of simple justice to note the admirable ])liability with which the French Canadians have adapted tbemselved to the difTcrent regimes through which they have jiassed, the constitution of 1775, that of 17tt!, that oi' 18"41 and lastly that ot Confederation. I am not ignorant of the fact that there can be no nation without a national ]>ride, nor am I unaware that in almost all cases national pride is inspired by those tragic events which bring suffering and tears in their train, but which at the same time call out all the forces of a nation or of a race, and on this liead it lias been correctly said that the happiest people are those without a history. Our history under '.'onfedt^- ration presents none of the dramatic facts, which make us no attached to the past ; it has been calm and consequently liai)py. Hut peace has also its glories and its heroes. Canada under Confederation has produced men of whom any nation might justly feel proud. I will not speak of the Canadians of French origin, as jNIr. Langelier referred to them a moment ago, but I will allude to the Canadians of liritisli origin and mention two as examples. The lirft name I shall recall is that of a man from whom I differ tolo cortu, but I am too much a French Canadian not to glory at all times in doing justice to an adver- 34 530 ADDUE.SS aary. T refer to Sir Tolin A. ^raoduriiild. T will not astonish my friend, Mr. Chapais, whom I see amonjjst us. if I state that I do not sharo Sir John MacdoniiM's political oj'inions, I may even add that I condemn almost all of them, but it must be aeknowlcdjxed that, in his long career. Sir John Macdonald has di-iplnyeil such eminent qualitio.'' that ho would have made his mark on nny of the world's stages and that, with the single exception, perhai)3, of >Ir. Mercier, nc one on this continent has excelled as he has in the art of governing men. The other name is that of a man who has been to me not only a friend, but more than a friend. I mean Honorable HIdward Blake. Some years ago, speak- ing here of Mr. Blake, T declared tliat, in my opinion, America, at that moment, did not posaess his equal and Europe could not show his superior. That opinion has been confirmed by all that I have .^iiue 8een of Mr. Blake. I have enjoyed thead- vantiige of very close relations with him and have learned that his heart. .«o>il, and character arc in keep- ing with his splendid intellect. J>esides these, many other names, the names of men of the highef't emi- nence, occur to me; but I shall pass over them in si- lence in order to remind you of an event, which sums up in itself all that I could say and which will show you that, while remaining French Canadians, we are Canadians in the broadest acceptance of the term. Only a few weeks have elapsed since St. Sau- veur was destroyed liy fire. On that occasion, a man came forward to fight the scourge and check the spread of the conflagration. With all the smartnesSj zeal and intrepidity of the true soldier, he rushed into the thick of the dan- ger and found his death there. On the following day, the whole French population of Quebec filled the etreets as they filled them to-day, but, instead of a feeling of joyfalness, the feeling in their hearts was one of deepest grief for the gallant Major Short, whose mutilated remains they had congregated to reverently salute on their way to the grave. TO THE FUENCII CANADIANS 531 Major Sliort did not belong to our ruct' ; hut Iio was our fellow countryman; and I would ank wliicli one of you, French (Canadians, in the midst of the still smoking ruins of your city and the i>re3ence of the dead hero, did not lecl i>roud of being a Canadian ? ■ t 'fi Gentlemen, let us have the pride of our race! fiot us be just to all our fellow countrymen, without distinc- tion of race or creed ! Let us know how to be not alone just, .but generous, and let all our actions in the Confederation be characterized by that generosity which has]marked the career of France in Europe ! A TIIK UKIJGIOUS. I'oLTTrCAr. AND ECONOMIC SITUATION TUACKI* BY A MASTKU FIANP It miiy not lie amisri tn l)rictly rcfall tlio oirciimstanccs iiiiil( r wliich till- I'ollowiii;.' s|n>feh w.is fiwlivfired. 'I'lic aiiimn- sity tiiil tln' lircs ot iKitiniml uinl rclijjious hatroil, iirousi'd an. I kcp; iilivf hy crtiiin f':iM;itics. liiiil reaclifxl tlioir lioi^lit, iiinl I III' sli^'litcst iiicidi'iit iiii;;lil Imvtf jin'oiiiiiJittMl ii gi-neial con (liigratimi. Wlio was l'hii); to try to allay tlh' storm? C or- tauily, it was not Mr. .Mfi'avtliy, th« loailcr of tin* a;;itatinn, who would iiavi' di'i'aint ora)«p<\iring in tlii^ |)rovinco ot (.iindx-c. to advocate hi"! lia'.r-briMtliing views. ( Mi the otlior liand, Avho w.'is the l'"ri'M('li «'anadian orator, who would havo the foura;if' to Ix'.ird the iiL'itator on liis own iirouiid ? ^fr. Lan- rior's name was meiiiiunod, it is true, but it was said : ho will not go. However, the Liberal leader ilid go and it may bo said tliat lie eonnuored, for his words hait a notably appe.'using eil'ect. Not only did they crusli projiidioe on the spot, )iut, with the rapidity of electricity, they carried thousands of leagues away a clear perception of a situation, witii regard to which only a very confused and erroneous idea had until then prevailed abroad. This speech alone won for Mr. Laurier tin! honor of being compareil to tlie foremost statesmen of the niotherconntry by the ('(iiKulian (inzettr, a journal which cer- tainly had nothing in cointuon with him. A few days after- wards, on the 17th of October, the cable brought us the following pa.^sage from the Toiy j)aper'8 article: "Mr.Laurier's 'I'oroiito speech places him at one bound in the fiont rank of Uritisli statesmen. To the clocjuenco native to the French Canadian, Mr. Laurier'sad<ls honesty, directness of purpose ami pure-minded patriotism, which mark him out as a leader. Men of such high mental and moral power were never more needed in the forefront of affairs in Canada than now." 534 SPEKCir i<PEECII DELIVERED BY HONORABLE WILFRID LA URIER, A T TOR ONTO, ON THE SO Til SEPTEMBER, 1889 AT A MEKTIKG CAI.I.El) ]JY TllK YOl'N(i MEN's LIBERAL CHI! jM. ClIAIIfMAX, liADlKS ANT) (IeNTI.EMEN •. I would lie onl}' too jilarl to l)e nble to accept Avilhoiit any restriction llie too kind things wliicli you, My, Chairman, haA'e been pleased to speak of nie on tliis occasion ; but U])on tliis occasion — thougli on no other — I liave to be a re-^trictionist. T cannot accept tlie too generous compliments whicli your kindness to me has proni])tod you to speak. You have alluded to the fact that when T last stood before an audience in this great citj' of Toronto I did not then occu])y the i)osition which the too great partiality of my friends in the House of Commons has imposed ui)uu me. I can tell you. gentlemen, if there is anybody ■who regrets to-day that I have to appear before you in that position, no one regrets it more sincerely than I do. Tt would luivo been my pleasure— indeed, my too great pleasure — to be able to serve, as I have done many a day, under tlie leadership OF MY AnLK AiND PEAK FRIEND, MK. BLAKE. Fate, however, decreed otherwise. an<l I thought that duty com])elled me then to accept the jioaition which, unfortunately, disease forced liim to forego; and. in the diecharg'e of the great responsilnlities which I then assumed. T clnim no other credit, l>ut this which I do claim, that I have endeavored to discharge them to the l)est of my judgment, to tJie best of ray con- science, v.'ithout fear, without favor for any man. AT TORONTO IN 1S89 Ami it is in this same spirit tliat T come before you tlii'j evening, and I say at once that I would not resjiond to the task which I have itn[)03('d upon myself, nor respond to the duty wiiich you, Sir, and the Young Liberals ol" Ontario liave entrustc^d nic with, if I di<l not at once make tin; stateuuMit, as tlie very basis of everytliing that I shall feel ol.)liged to say this ovonin.;, that the situation of our country at this moment, I'or causes obvious to all, is such that it cannot be viewed without some degree of anxiety .md alarm. In the first jjlace the most sanguine amcnigst us, viewing the perpetual stream of emigration which depletes our iiicipicnl and only incipient populati(ni, must admit, whether tlie admission comes manfully to his lips, or whether the admission remains within the dark recesses of conscience, that the economic position of thO'Country is not satisfactory. Not that the country is wanting in wealth, in vigor, in energy. On the contrary, WlCAl.TII, VKIOU ANI> ENKRt.V are everywhere exuberant, but in an evil hour the country allowed its limbs to be sliackled and man- acled by vicious fiscal lines under which its growth has been stunted. IJut the situation is not yet hopeless. Yet there are other considerations, there are other dangers which must be met, and which if not met may threaten the very exi.itence of Confederation, and which can be met only, in my judgment, ])y a finu and judicious adherence to those princip-les which you, iMr. Chnirman, acknowledge as fjbernl prin- ciples. Now, Mr. Chairman, I am not ignorant that in this province tlie Libera! party is at this moment subjected to many re[)roiiches and strictures. In fact the dangers and the obstacles witli wbicli the Liberal party has to contend at this mon;ent come not from its avowed opponents, but come from this new school of Liberals, who would import into the country [.liberal principles from Germany, from France and Conti ^336 SPEECH nental Europe, altogether unsuited to the position wo occupy on this continent. These men tell you that the Liberal party ofto-thiy is composed o( eftetc Liberals, weak liiberals, Liberals only in name. They tell you we have sacrificed the principles of the great Reform i)arty for the suitjioil of a dominant niiurch. They tell j'ou that upon a late occasion, upon a most ■important (lue^tion, we went hack upon every tradi- tion, on every principle, of the great Jiiberal party. Well, Mr. ('hairman, il' theso reproiiches were to come from t}ie ranUs <>f the Conservative party, if thi-so repj'.)aehf'3 were to come (>i)enly froni the friends of ; tie C'onservativ party, as the)' are made in fact and in reality ().\ IJKlIAI.r OF TilK CONSKIIVATIVE TAliTV, I would p:iss them by; but, a^ they co'^ae from the ao-cnlled adv:uiced Liberals and are acblres'^ed to the Liberal party, they cannot be ignored ; ami I am here to show, or to attenijit to show, and I am sure 1 can show you that the men who use this language are not lovalto the principles they profess, and arc not suj)- porters of the party they i>retend to serve. I call upon the Liberals not to" be moved from the paths of duty by fuch reproaches addressed to them. I tall upon all Liberals, those who agree with us and those who disau'ree with us, to be true to themselves and to their counlrv on this groat (juestion. Let us rem(!nd)er that there is for every (luestion that comes up a com- mon ground not always easily discernible, but which will, when found, " be f()und compatible with our interest and at the same time affording a sure solution upon the broadest national lines. Let us re- member that when this ground is found it must be adhered to unflinchingly, and that upon every occa- .sion and for everv question, wliether our course is approved «)r whether our course is censured, we must always and ever remain the same— bold without temerity and prudent without timidity ! Again, Mr. AT TOnONTO IN 18S1) r)37 Cluiirnian, T say that tl\e situation of this country at this uiomt-nt is lull of tliniculLics AND irr.I. OF I'EUII.S. I Wo have now bcon under C'onfYMlcratinn for the spaee of some twenty-twii 3'<'ar3, and tinr great task we set ourselves twenty-two years a<i;o of huildin^' Uj) a na- tion in Canada .seonis to be no more advanced than it was twenty-two years a<fo. New conijilications arise constantly, which make the hoi)e indul^'ed in twenty- two years ago almost as far away as it was at that time. And now, my fellow-eounlrymen, T ask you this — What are the causes of these complications; ^vhat are the causes of these diiliculties and jierils? Look for them, examine them, .-ift thorn well, and you will agree with me that all these cause-!, what- <!ver sha[ie they ina\' assume. whatev(-r mischief they may work, can all t)e summed uj) in this one word — distrust. Distrust of race against rare, distrust of creed against creed, distrust of motives, distrust of intentiiHis which cond)ines a creed or a race within itself instead of moving them forward together all to a common end ; distrust which engenders hostility, the consefjuence.^ of which are almost appalling. I am now sj)eaking in the province of Ontario. Is it not a fact that to- day, in tins great i)rovince of Ontario, there is a latent or expressed l-'EEMNC OK DISTHIST of the Catholic province of Quebec ? I come fi om the province of Quebec, and I know it unfortunately for a fact that in the Catholic province of (iuebec there is a feeling of distrust of the Protestant province of Ontario. Now, for that state of things, for that uni- versal distrust, that general feeling of diflidcncc which permeates the whole political body, I lay the charge and the blame upon the Conservative party. They have governed this country almost without interrup- SPEECH tion since Confederation. And wlien in power tliey liave <f()vernod, and wlion nut of power they liave souglit to (Tovern, not by a broad, uniform, general ])olicy wliic'h would have wcl(b'd together all the pro- vinces of Confcileration, and which would have made every man proud of his citizership as a Canadian; their (d)jcct lias been to ol)tain in every province a majority Ijy appealing to the local prejudices of that provint'C. Tn the ])rovince of (Quebec Ijy appealing to t'.ie ])r(judice-5 of my fellow-Cathobc.^, in tlio province of Ontario l«y ap) ealing to the prejudices of extreme Protectants. That gairie was for a long time succe.-js- ful. It was sure to lie -uccessful as long as the con- flicting passions of Ontario and Quehec could be kept active. IJut, Sir, no one can deal with impunity with f>VC\l INFLAMMABLE MATKIILU, as religious and national passions. And T call you to witness, everyone of you, that, on the day when the conflict of ]>assion of Catholic (iuehec and Protes- tant Ontario came, the whole fabric of Confederation trend>led mider the shock. And to-day, Mr. Chair- man, to-day it is no rare occurence to hear repeated that fatal sentence spoken some years ago by a Con- servative organ, threatening that if things did not go as it wished it would smash Confederation into its original fragments. This is the position, and in the face of this p<isition -'•bat is tlic duty of the Liberal jtarty ? The duty of the Liberal party is plain. It h a duty upon wbicli I ajjpeal with great conlidence to the young men of the whole Confederation. In the face of this universal distrust, the duty of the Liberal party is to promote, or ratlier to continue, the policy of hope and exertion for mutual respect and confidence. In the face of disintegration, if disintegration be simply hinted at, it is the duty of the Liberal party *o stand firm by the iirinciple of Confederation. I do jt believe certainly that Confederation is AT TOPvO^•TO IN 1SS9 530 TIIK I.AsfT WORD OF CANADA'S I)E3TIXV. u I It can bo looked ut simply as a transient state ; but, whenever tlie i.'luiuge cuines, tbe change must be a step forward and not a stop liackward. We live under CoDfoderation, and it is our duty to stand by Confe- derati()n,to be loyal to Confederation. T am a Lil)eral and I believe in movement, in progress ; but I do not T)elieve in inconsiderate changes. T believe in changes rendered nc:2essar_v )jy the natural evolution of the ])co]ile's life. ^iiW less would I be of those who clamor for a constituticjnal change, l.)ecau9e the state of things that now exists comes into conflict with their personal ])rejudices and opinions. In the j)rov- ince to which T belong, our leaders ;it the timeof Con- federatitnj had not absolute conlldenco in the scheme. Not that they thought it destroyed the federative l)rinciple ; it strengthened it. I'.ut they thought it was l)remature. What was said then may be said with equal force tv)-day. namely, that there was in the idea of bringing together the various scattered iJritish jirov- inces and giving them a common national aspiration, and making of them a common nation, that which Avould make the lieart of any Canadian tteat with pa- triotism. Sir, I kiiow one tiling. What T say now. will be discounted — what I say now, I may say, has been already discounted in a certain i)re.-s. It will be said that such language as T utter is meant Ibr Ontario, and would nt)t be repeated in Quebec. Tt Avill be said that it is all very well in Ontario to speak as a Canadian, but that the language I utter to the people of Quebec is that of the estaldishmcnt OF A FKENCir INDEPENDENT STATE on the banks of the St. Lawrence. Sir, in so hir as I am personally concerne<l.T resent such an imputation. In so far as T am i)ersonally concerned T resent the im- putation that I would havo one language for Ontario and another for Quebec. I call upon my bitterest foe </ 540 SPEECH ever to qnotft a word of mine t]iat T liave ever uttered inQueb(M! or wherever T may have spoken that is dif- ferent. Sir, from wiuit T liave now said. T wouhl de- spise myself if I had not the courage of my convictions. And whether I stood upon tlie soil nf Ontario. or whe- ther I stood upon the soil of my native prt)vince of (iuehet! iiddressintf my countrymen of kindred Ijlood. my hinguagehas ever heini what it is here this even- ing. Tt so happens, Mr. Chairnnm, that the last tinns T sjiokt; upon the soil of my native province it was upon this very question. It was upon the 21(huf June last. The occiision was the celehralion of ""St. Jean J>ai>li.-ite." wliich. you know, is the national holiday of the French ('■.madians. T spoke in the very lieart oftlie city of t7,uel)ec.in tlie division tiiab I have the honor of rcipre^euting in Parliament. I spoke to an audiiMice that va^ exdu-jively I'rench and T spi>l<(> in my native toii;j;iH>. With your permission, 1 will read to you what I Siiid on that occasion to my fel- low-coantrymcn of Fren(;h origin, and which can l>o rea,d in the columns of L' l-yrrinir of the 2")th June. T had to respond to the toast of '' CanatUi." T. said this: — # (IFtMT" tln> spo.ikoi' cited a p.'issii^o from tlic preceding spceoli Sei' jicti/'.'s il)21-2^.) Sir, such was the langu.age v.lnch T lield to my fellow-countrymen of Frcmch origin, in my own native provinc(^ of Quebec, and such is the language I hold this evening. Tf any there are amongst my fellow- countrymen of French origin who have ever dreamed of forming themselves into A SMAT.r, COMMITNITV OF KREX«IIMEN on the banks of the St. Lawrence, I am not one of them. I am not one of them, I say — let my words be lieard by friend or foe. Sir, I will go further. When the fate of arms and the power of treaty made my AT TOKONTO IN 18S0 oil ancestors subjects of En}i;lan(l,it is a mutter of liistory tluit tliey continued to wage against I^ngland a long struggle. They complained — and in niy judgment they comjilained with justice — that they wore not fairly treated ; but history attests that in that long struggle the only thing whicli they claimed was the privileges of British subjects. The concession did not come at once. The concession was long to lie made; but it came, and when it came the (oncetsinn was made without any reservation, in the most ample manner ; and this I say. that it Avould ho the blackest ingratitv;de if. after we had sought from Kngland the privileges and the rights of ]^>riti«h subjects, we were n(.\v to reject the resjionsibilitieH of Hritish .subjects. I Hay that it would l>e the blackci-t ingratitude if, having sought the protection of liritain tu grow strong, we were, when strong enough, U> ;ittempt to stal) the I'riendiy hand and to refuse t<i cast in (Hirlot with tho^'.-^ whn are lellow-coiintrymen nf ouis, whoM» fellow-countrymen we are in deed, and whoise liirth- right we claim as our own inheritance since we be- Ciime subject to P^iigland. 15ut, Mr. f'hainnan, at the same time let me tell you this : I am not here to play the jjart of a sycophant , I am uui here lu ihitter tlie peculiar views of those wliom T am nddrcssiug; T am iierc as a French Canadian and 1 ;ini firmly attached to the language of my nncestors. Men there are amongst you, it is true, to tell you that it is dan- gerous to Confederation that tlie French language sliould lie- s))oken in this great country of ours. Well, i\lr. Chairman. I am a French Canadian ; I was l)rought up ON THE KNKES OF A KRKNCII :\IOTIIKU ; and my first recollections are those iccollections which no man ever forgets; and shall it be denied ti> me — the privilege of addressing the same languages to those that are dear tome? Shall T not continue to Bpeak Frencli as French was spoken to me in my d-i-2 srEEcir younger (lay.-J? T know very woll, tliat it is a groat disadvantage tor a Freneh Canadian not to speak Knglisli, 1 understand that n)y friend, ^Ir. Koas, is to compel all pujiils in this great country to learn ]Migliisli, anil lie will do a great service to all tiie chil- dren of this country. Hut I believe that Mr. Kns.s will nut prohihit anybody I'roni speaking the language of liis luoiher if he chooses to siienk it. I sini[»ly claim the privilege of si)eaking my own domestic language as I like to speak it. Jlut men who Sjjcak only French on tliis continent are in a great inferiority, and if they are to learn to speak JCnglish the cfinseijuence will he that they will speak two languages, ancl tiic advan- tage will he all on their side. When Confederation was established. Mr. Chairman, it was not intended that Confederation should be based upon the humilia- tion of any one race. Tt was not intended tliat any should give up its characteristic, but it was expected that though every nationality might retain its indi- viduality, yet that all would be actuated l)y one as[)i- ration and woidd endeavor to form one; nation. It is. in this spirit, it is according to the Liberal party, it is in accordance with the principle laid down at the outset of Confedcriilion that there should be several provinces, that there should be a division, Init a union of the whtde. That we have acted upon — an action for which we have been subjected to too many criticisms. I refer to the act passed by the Legisla- ture of Quebec with respect to THE JESUI'r.s' ESTATES. Now, Mr. Chairman, I am here entering upon a delicate statement. I have taken one view, and in stating this I ask one privilege. It is the privilege of of laying my views as I entertain them. I only ask one thing of you. It is what is never refused by a British audience — it is to give me fair play in the statement I intend to make. I know tliat will be granted whether you agree with my conclusions or AT TO HON TO IX 1S80 543 not. This hill, in the firi-t ])l<ioc. i)asao(l ciuiiparii- tively in silence. It was u long tinioherore tho liCfxis- lature. Puhlic attention was not directed to it. Not one word was said ajriiinst it, and it finully passed and had the unaniniona consent of the r-egislature of Quehei! ; hut after the act had l)e(?n passed p<-titii)nsi which had not come to the Legislature were sent to His Excellency, or ratlier to the Government, and finally to His Excellency to disallow the act. Tiie government refused, and the motion of censure against that course of the Government was introduced into the Ifouee of Commons hy a well-known sup- porter of the Government — Colonel O'lh-ien. Well, T see that the action of Colonel 0']>rien meets with approval. Gentlemen, thank (iod, this is a free country and I do not ohject. JUit if it met the aj)proval of a large portion of the people of Ontario, it did not meet the ai)proval of the Government. Ni>w, gen- tlemen, I tell you this: I have no sjjare love for the Ciovernment, and T am willing enough to admit that it will always he a lahor of love for me to work and help Colonel G'JJrien or any other memher when they go against the Government. Upon that occasion, however. T could not. The (juestion was not a new one; it had heen dehatedover and over again hetween the two parties. The question of Provincial rights. which was involved in that motion, has been an issue between the Conservative party and the Liberal party. The Conservative jiarty, represented at Ottawa by the Government of Sir John Macdonald, had always lield the doctrine — and they ai'plied that doctrine here in the province of Ontario - that they had THK RIGHT TO REVIEW LOCAL LEGI.-I.ATION, and to disallow anything they considered in any way objectionable. On the contrary, the Liberal party always maintained that the legislation passed by the Local Legislature was amenable, andamena))le only, to the people of the province where it had been 514 SPEECH oniictcd. Upon tluit occasion — wlicthor ri;^'lit or wrong for good or for ill— we stood liy tnu- ])iincii)lo><, l)ut the (iovcriniient did not. They turned a sonierejiult ; they turned ii .'■(HiierPivult noticeahlc even in a (Jov- ernnient distinguished i)y the audtieity, rapidity and continuance ol its antics. Now, t?ir. witli regard to tliis (luestion, T know that our course has not hcen api)roved hy all Liberals. The great newsjiapcr with whicli you, l^ir, nre conrected, The Globe, the veteran ol'Ileforin — (liissrs) — wliy should any man liisshecause another ha.'i th(^ courage of his convictions? I do not agree with Tlif lHuhr^ jmd I have no fault to find with 77/*.' ^V'l/vr because it disagreed with nie. Tlic Ghihc is i-iberaland I am Liberal, and we Liberals are not of the men who do not see any good in others. Now. Sir, Avith regard to this (iue.«tu)n, I do not think it would l>c fitting in me while before such an audience to discu.-s that ([ucstiou on its merits, except in so far as it relate.^ to the (juestion of disallowance, and in that view I only intend to discuss it. That is the onlv point from which I intend to discuss this (jues- tioii. which canic uj) in Quebec and whieh bad to be fettled in some wny or other. Now Mr. Cbapleau, the other day, not later than V> days ago, saiil, in a sjx'ech delivered at St. Hilaire, that, while Ik; was I'rinie Minister, he had entered into negotiations to settle the question, and that if lie h:'d gettled it UK woui.n n.vvK set'ii.ej) it to the satisi'aetion of everyljody — to the satisfaction of Catholics, to the satisfaction of Protestants — but he did not settle it. and it does not lie in the mouth of him who confessed that he attempted and failed, to say that what was done Avas not well done. !>ut this was a question that liad to be settled. Now, many objections have been taken against it ; there are many objections which I could discus.^ which have been raised against it, and in dis- cussing these you will bear with me. I only a.sk one AT TOUONTO IN 1SS9 545 thing, fair-plny, while I discuss the question. I ask of you simply lo be lieard. I do not know that I shall be able to convince you ; I de not liopo for that. But at least you will not refuse to a fellow-country- nuin coming here t») argue an unpoi)ular cause a fair hearing, I hope. Now I believe one thing, that tho whole of that act would have passed witliout any trouble wliatever,it would not have aroused any excite- ment, but for the iact that the name of the Poj)e was prominently introduced in it, and that its introduction was construed in such a manner as to mean a thing Avliich T shall presently discuss — that it was putting the supremacy of the i'ope over tlit; sui)remacy of the Queen, (.lentlemen, I tiiink I put the ijuestion fiiirly ; I want to put it honestly and to discuss it manfully. I know one thing — I know enough of my fellow-coun- trymen of English origin, I know enough of English history, I know enough of English litonvture, to be aware that when J^luikcsiicaro ]iut into the mouth of King John the proud words which he made him address to the Pope's legate ; — No Italian priest Shall tithe or toll in our doniininn. he touched the IJritish lieart in its most responsive cliord. I know this, that there is no man of English blood, let his condition in life be ever so hundjle, let his range of informotion be ever so limited, but knows this much of English history — that at no time would the English peoi)le or English sovereigns allow the sway ofthePopein thetemi)oral affairs of England. Now, my fellow-countrymen, allow me to go one frtep further. The objection which you have to this act i<< simply this -you say that this act has attempted to do W'HAT NEVER WA;> DONE IN K.\(;i,AXD. Let me tell you, if you allow me to discuss the matter calmly with you, there never was any such intention 35 64G SPEECH on the part of Mr. Morcior I Lot nic go jigain one Hte)» furtlicr and do not liise too soon, hocauso I will l)e forced to tell you that in the discuHsion which took ])lace when Mr. Mereier introduced that act he stated to the Briti.sli minority that if they found any ohjcc- tion to tlie preaml)lo, that need be no dilliculty, for it could easily 1)0 arranged to please them. The explan- ations, however, which he gave were satisfactory to the Jjritish minority and they voted unanimously in favor of tho act. Now, my fellow-countryiuon, let me again go one step further. If you believe that it was ever the intention of any lioman Catholic in Lower Canada to put the supremacy of the Tope over the supremacy of the Queen, I diflolaim in tho most emphatic manner any such intention. There is no Christian organization in which Christ's great pre- cei)t " Render unto Cii.sar the things that are Cicsar's and unto Ciod the things that are Ciod's," is so rigidly enforced as in the lioman Catholic ])crsuasion. Now, ray fellow-countrymen, allow me again to go one step further. You pay we have carried too far the doctrine of no disallowance, that we have introduced the pos- sibility of the supremacy of the Pr)i)o over the supre- macy of the Queen. What would you do now, you ask me. if the Legislature of Quebec were to attempt to substitute the authority of the Pope for the uutluj- rity of the Queen ? Gentlemen, I ])ut this (luestion squarely. This is my answer — there never was such a pretension on the part of the Legislature of Quebec. But I go further, and will meet the objection as square- ly as it is i)03sible to meet it. Suppoise that the Leg- islature of Quebec, or any other Lf^gislature — mind you, I .s]icak to you now as one of your fellow-coun- trymen from Qutbec, I speak to you as one of the majority in Quebec — were ever to attempt to substi- tute the authority of the Pope over the authority of the Queen, that Legislature, by that very fact, would place itself beyond the pale of the Canadian Confede- ration, would place itself beyond the pale of British citizenship, and that act would be simply treason and would have to be AT TORONTO IN ISSO .)-». DEALT WITH AS TUKASON. Sir, this is 8iiii|)ly the nnswer wliicli I liavc to liivo ui)on this oociision totlic many strictures wliich liiive been lioiipod upon tho Ivihcrnl party for tliiit act, wliic'h liHve hocn liciiped upon tho Lilx'ral party fur refusing' to disallow that act. IJut, Sir, there is an- other ol>jeition which is niado to this act. Ft is an ohjection which I iind expressed in tho press of On- tario. Tt.is statetl that the men in whose favor that legislation was made ar<' em;mies of progress, enemies of t'roedom. that it was a crime on the part "f tlu; \A- beial party, a crime on tho part of every one who l»o- lieves in freedom and modern [)rogre33, not to use the ])ower of disallowance in order to remove f?uch a dan- gerous weapon from such dangeious hands. That is the view, undoubtedly, wdiich lias been taken by se- veral of those of our fellow-citizens who lately organ- ized themselves as the l^iual Rights Association. Now, iMr. Chairman, I am not of those who i)retend to dis- miss the movement which was thus organized by a simple wave of the hiind. A movement in whicli you find eminent divines, prominent members of I'arlia- ment, men ranking high in every station of life, all eminently animatcil by strong conviction, is a move- ment, which must bo met with respect, which juust always rouse in every manly heart a recognition 01' THE SPIRIT OF CONVICTION. I have followed that movement, though I cannot agree in all its conclusions. I have followed it with great interest, I have followed all the discussion as nearly as I could, and I must say that I have been strongly impressed by the speech delivered recently . re in Toronto, at the convention which was held in June last, by a fellow-countryman of yours. Rev. Principal Caven. Now, I have not the honor to know Dr. Caven. But I naust say, and I am glad to say, 548 SPEECH that his speech impressed me as the speech of a man of elevated mind, of high views, firm in temper, kind and gentle in disposition. I read his speech, as I said, with great interest, and I thought I found in the words which he then uttered the reason for the attitude which he had taken. Ilis views were express- ed in the following language: — The tlieory tliat tlie Church is paramount in the secular as in tiie religious sphere has come into collision with the tlieory on which all i'rce public life proceeds, and in acconlanca with which our modern civilization is beini^ develoi)ed. To my own mind it is this fact which lends inijiortance to the situation with which we have to deal, and makes it the imi)e- rative duty of those who reject the fu'st of tliose theories and regaril it as dauge"ous to the coinininiity, to resist legislation such as the Acts of which we complain. 'J'he Ultramontane theoiT of (iovernment is distinctly avowed and constantly ]iroclaimed by its advocates, so that we are not to l)e charged with misrepresenting the .lesuits and otluMs who deiend it ; and we need not be surprised when the champions of this theory j'roceeil under favorable circunistinces to reduce it to prac- tice. Tlicse words seem to me very pregnant, very expr<!,=pive of the thought in Dr. Caven's mind that the I'ltramontanes would take advantage of tliis legis- lation to undermine our free institutions. Well, let us ;r.cet the case in that way. Suppose that indeed till! UUramontanes were to use the j)rivilege granted to tlieni to undorniine our free institutions, how sliould we treat them? This question lias hcen put again and again by the Mail. It has been put with great force, with great talent, but in my judgment in a (iianner which is itot compatible with THE ETHICS Ol' ENGLISH LIBERALISM. The views of the Mail \\\)on that subject have been thus expressed in a late issue : — In a rec uiit ai'ticle on the career o Blend, a Liberal of Liberals, lays it down career of John Bright, Karl ■'■ ' that true Liberalism .AT TORONTO IN 1S89 549 doos not consist in furnisiiing tlie (>noiiiy of lium.'in pro;Hfes?! and enlightenniPMt with wcajjon.s whorouith lie may cut its throat. Karl Blend is a Oennan Liberal, but repeats the t'ornuila which the Liberals of all continental countries have ailopted in their dealing with ritramont.uiisin. Well, Mr. ClKiirnian, ihis may Ix; iiidoed German' Liliertilisin. but this is not the true English Ijiberalisni. What is tlio meaning oftliis rjil)eralism. It means simply tliat ii' an Uitrainontdue i^ entitled to an act ol" justice he must lie denied that act of justice because it may, perhai)S, he u.se(l to the itrejudice of the cum- munity. This is ii.)t the way I have read English Liljeralism. I am of French origin, but tliere never was a time in my life when T did nut proclaim myself an Englisli Li1)cral. I am a French Canadian Liberal and T lielong to a party which fur thirty years fought tlie Ultramontanes in the province of Quebec. But this I do say, consistently with those principles of Englisii Liberalism which I profess, that, if an Ultra- montane or any other man is entitled to justice at my hands, ample justice he shall receive from me. In the discussion which has taken i)lace,it has been said over and over again that the men who are supposed to benefit most from this legislation have been expelled from all civilized countries, have been expelled from France, from Republican France, as late as the year lS8o. Well, Sir, I never could conceive wdiat was the object of making reference to that fact. Can it be possible that those who refer to that fact intend that we should revert TO THE POI.ICV OF OSTRACISM so long indulged in European countries and yet indulged in the land of my ancestors, France. I do not believe there is a man in this audience who would have us return to the old time wdien men were ostra- cized because their views were not the views of the majority of those with whom they happened to live. If not for that purpose, what could the purpose be? m I ! mO Sl'EECH Perhaps ic was that these men were dangerous men. Ikit let them l)e ever so dangerous, dangerous and bad men have rights which good men are bound to resjiect. Gentlemen of English origin, let me tell you this, as a man who has nothing but French blood in his veins, that! am ashamed of the land of my ancestors when T reflect that at tliis day, at tliis time of the nineteenth century, still ostracism can be i)ro- claimed in a country which calls itself Republican. Let me tell you this, that that action has been reproved by ail true LiJjcrals in the French Republic. AVhy, this very question was reviewed only recently in the monthly number of ITari)er's ^lagazine, in an article headed " The Religious Alovement in France." It was written by Mr. Edmond de Pre.ssensr, a member of the French Senate. What gives, in my judgment, peculiar force to the opinion of IVfr. de Pressenst' is the fact that he is a Protestant. This is the Avay in which he speaks of ihe very fact to which T now refer : Besiilos tlic seculnr cler_ixy tlie Cliurcli of Fiiince long )iosses?ed a very imiiioroiis regular olcrf'y, rojucsonting the various religions onlers of (Jatliolii;i«m. 'riicse I'eligious orders — Ddiniiiifaiis, fraiKMscaiif, tlosuits and others — were distri- l)Mt('d in coi'-grogatioiis recognized by the State, and in con- gregation- not lecognized by the State, ot which latter the mosit i'lijortant was the Society of'.Ie.sus. A few yeais ago, it will he reiiienih(»re(l, the Ke|iublican (ioviM'nnient revived some old laws, which had ihe'iv i-ai-s'ind'ctrc u)h\ov the Tinllican Monarchy, and issr.ed decrees for the ex|nilsion of all the non-recognized religions orders. 'J'hiis many religions houses weie cli)sei|, not without resistance whii'li occasioned tinnul- tucius scenes and greatly agitated imblio oj/inion. In realit"' the measure had no gi'eat imiiortance. There is THE Ol'lMON OF A PKOTE.STA.NT — the opinion ofaliiberal. You do not see that he here ])roposes that the liepublican (Jovernment should exjjel the Jesuits, liut in another part of liis AT TORONTO IN 1880 551 article he condemns that action in umjualified terms : The thinl Uepublic, irritateil, it is true, by tli'^ spirit of op[)osition which it encountered a'.mngst tiio cior^iy at its ik'biil, has often ilispliiyed passionuto liostility, accordini^ to Oanihi'tta's saying. '• he clericaHsme, c'ost I'onhenii. '' Tlie exagjiei'ated manner in wliich it Iris apjilied the principle of secularization, both in the educational laws, where it lias not given a legitiuiati- [)lace to that religions teaclunj which ni: ;ht have been imparled at special hours without coiistraininj; any consciences, and also in i)itilessly <li'ivin^; out of the hospitals the Sisters of (Jharity, has naturiiily excited the liveliest dissa- tisfaction, not only amongst t\v^ cler;iy, but in a ci')nsidei'al)lo portion of the nation as well. This dissatisfaction constitutes at the present moment a real danger for Repul)lican institu- tions, and everybody knows only too well by whom it is frau- dulently taken advantage of. Here, a^ain, you see tlio o])inion of a Liberal Protestant, and, instead of approving of the act of the Republic, lie condemns it, tliougli lie acknowledges that there i)ublican party in Franco, while acting thus, acted under great provociition. Fur it is a matter of history that after the elections Avhicli followed the unfortunate war of 1870, the Catliolic party — I say Catholic i)arty because I am sorry to say there is a party of Catholics who have committed THE (iREAT MISTAKE (I would say crime) of organizing themselves as a political ])arty — the Catholic party threw its weiglit against the repu])lic. " Hence the l)itter resentment of tha republican?, wlio, when once they came back with a majority, made the mistake of allowing their policy to be inspired Ijy their anger. "' Now, my fellow-countrymen, let me i)aU3e here. Here is a country wliere some old laws — laws of the old monarchy — were revived in order toextiel Jesuits. Let us look to the other side of the channel I Let us look to England I There also you will find old laws, still unrepealed — .still upon the statute book — which 552 srEECII might be revived tu deal out justice in tlie same way in wliich it was meted out in France. But tliese men, expelled from France, were allowed to go in peace in England. Now, my fellow-countrymen of British origin, I ask you tliia : I am a Frenchman. You are Englishmen. Which example. of the.^e two countries, d^o you wish to follow in this country? You are Englishmen. You can go to France for an example. I am French descent, hut this time, as always, I go /i\)v an exam])le to the great country which first in the • world introduced the great })rinciple that no man should be per.-ecutcd because of his religion. Sir, if I were looking for an expression of THE VIEWS OF THE TIU'E I.HJERAI.S among my countrymen on thiu occasion, I should fnul them in the words of one of the irost eminent Frenchmen of this century. ]\[r. Ciuizot. The occa- sion was the reception of Fatlier Lacordaire into the French Academy. Tn France they do these things with great ceremony. There are oidy forty Acade- micians ; when one dies an election takes place; the new member is introduced to the Academy, and he has to deliver a speech, to which another Academician must make an answer. On this occasion that duty fell to Mr. Ciuizot. That occasion was a very impor- tant one, because Father Lacordaire wra not only one of the greatest orators of his day, but was also one of the i>urest men, one of the noblest cliaracters, to be found in any age and in any land. The man who was to answer him was Avell known as an orator, an historian, and a statesman. But what added to the interest of the occasion was the contrast between the two men, Mr. Guizot being a Protestant, a Huguenot, a descendant of a long persecuted minority, whereas Father Lacordaire was a monk of the Dominican order instituted in mediaeval times to fight heresy. The occasion suggested to Mr. Guizot some noble words which I think should be taucht as a lesson for AT TORONTO IN 1880 553 all men wlio live in such a country as we live in — a country of mixed religions : What would have happened, Sir, if we had met, you ami i, six liumlre'l years ago, an I il' it liad been tlie lot of i)otli ol' us to inlluenee our mutual ilestinies ? I have no inclination to awake reooliections of (lisc.ortl and violence, but 1 would not responil to the expectation of the j^enerous public who listi-n to us, and of the larger jiulilic outside who have taken sui-li 't Ktiong interest in your election, if I were not, as they arc, moved by and proud of th(> beautiful contrast between what tak>'s place today iu this iiall and what would have taken l)laee in former tirn<'s, under similar circumstances. Six lumdred years ago, if my own people had metyou, full of wrath they would have assailed you as an odious persecutor, and your own pt'0|)le, (»ager to inllauie the victoi's against heretic^, would have slioutfHl. "Strike and ;igaiii strike : (iod will well know liis own.'' Vou have taken to lu-art, Sir, and far be it irom me to contest it, you have tak"n to heart to wipe i'roui .such .atrocities t!ie memory of the illustrious founder of tiie religious order to which you belong: for surely the I'eproach is not to be addressed to hun, but to the age, in which he lived, and to all parties during many centLuii's. It is not my habit, J dare say so, to s|)eak of my own time and to my coutem[)or- aries with a coinjilacent admiration. I'he more warmly 1 <le- sire theii' happiness and their gliu'V, the more 1 feel imdined to point out to them what they are still w.uiting in, to comply with their great destinies. Jiut 1 eunn ndeny to mvselt the joy, ami shall I say it, tlu; pride of the spectacle whichjthe Aca- demy is now exhibiting to all eyes. We are here, you audi. Sn',tlie living (evidences .'iml the happy witnesses of the sultlime progress which has taken place in intelligence of and respect for justice, conscience, right and those divine laws so long ignored, which regulate the mutfal <luties of men concerning (lod and belief in < iod. No one any longer .smites or is smitten in the name of (lod : no one now lays claim to assume the rights and to anticipate the decrees of the Sovereign Judge. Mr. Chairman, we arc here to-day in this country as they \vere in Europe — Catholics and Protedtant.s together. Shall we revive those old laws ? Shall we strike in the name of God? No; th ose times are past. But this is not enough. Shall we : ■ JF' 554 SPEECH anticipate the decrees of the Supreme Judge? No, as the motto at least to which the Jiiheral party shall always adhere, we shall say : let only opinions he free, and let the hest prevail, as truth and justice must ever prevail. But, Sir, I shall be asked — wo are asked every day — what will you do if the Ultramon- tane.s of the prov' ice of Qaehec make an attempt against our liberties and free institutions? Why , Sir, we shall do as in the past. WE ^;IIALT, FIGHT THKM. TIlis is nothing now for us to have to do — notliing new for the party to whicli T belong. We have waged a long battle against the Ultramontane doctrines. We have waged a long battle during the time when the UI- tramontanes in r/)wcr-Canada were doing tlieir very best for the Tories of Ontario, and when the Tories of Ontario never objected at all. Tiiere was an occasion only a few years ago, wlien an election was fought in tlie county of Charlevoix. Sir Hector Liingevin was a candidate. He was elected and the Tories welcomed his election as n great trium}))i. His election was con- tested tin the ground of undue influence on the part of the clergy. The Ultramontanes, and, indeed, the whole Tory party, maintained that the clergy had a right to use undue influence and were not amenable to civil tribunals. But we fought the (juestion liefore the civil Courts, and before also the ecclesiastical autho- rities, and we Avon before lioth. We fought the ^luostion single-handed. Now we are told by those who did not oliject formerly '-.o an alliance with Ul- tramontanes that we Liberals to-day are allied with the X'ltramontanes. To some extent we are, T am here to speak openly, and have no reason to feel ashamed of what we have done. Sir, when Ultramon- tane doctrines interfered with our civil rights and liberties, it was our duty to fight the issue like men, an.A we did it. In those days I never heard a word against Ultramontanism coming from the Tory press, AT TORONTO IN 1SS9 OOO ■while at every foot wo fought the Ultramontane party. This is not the place to attack Ultraiu.jiitanes : the proper ground of attack and defense, on this sub- ject, is on the soil of the ]n'ovince of Quebec. I will only say here that the Ultratnontanes, like all French Canadian Conservatives, had borrowed their jiolitical view.s not from the British, but from the French school of politics. I may say here, Mr. Chairman, that ever since T have been in politic?, now more than twenty-two years, I have always striven in my native province to inculcate TRUE LIBERAL ENGLISH PRINCH'LK.S. I always repudiated French Liberalism, not my origin, mind vou, not the land of my ancestors, but t always repudfated those ideas which have brought the country of my ancestors to its jiresent reduced con- dition. I wanted to bring in better ideas. The Ultra- montane party now fought us with somt' reason, now with no reason. But their dogmatic politics will not long remain under the cover of ]h-itisli institutions. For a long time they were tlie mainstay of the party of Sir John Macdonald. But there came a time when they could no lunger remain so. The (irst t)ccasion when they found themselves unable tu follow the leadership of Sir John Macdonald was in connection with that License Act which you will all remend)er. They completely severed themselves also from tlie party and Government of Sir John Macdonald on the outrageous Franchise liill. At that time I was not in the position that I now occupy, but I occupied a position of some responsibility in the re])rescntation of my native province. There was a (juestion fronting u.«. The Ultramontane party had lost confidence in the Government and in tlie party of Sir John Mac- donald. and we had never had any confidence in him. "Were the Opposition to refuse the votes of the Ultramontanes because they could not accept all the 55G SPEECH Ultraiuontiine iflciifl ? Well, Sir, T had several inter- views ut that time with a man who was one of the leaders of the party. He was a personal friend of mine, allhouj^li we differed in politics. I allude to Senator Trudel, whom I admire for the courage of his convictions, tliough I do not agree with them all. T a-iiced him a few days ago if ho would allow me t(> make public what luul passed between us. He con- sented in tiie following note, which 1 take the lilierty of reading ; — Montmil, I'.tth Sept., IS.S'.I. MV i)i;.ui i.\ri;ii:i; : I iK'rlcotly rememlioi' that in all our (^oiivi'i'satinns, as you imt it very correctly, '' uirrci'liifX iiijoii soiin! ijuostioiis, illll'i-r- u\it on many otln'i'.s, we were oropinion that it was pret'i^'aMc tliat tlie Nationil Conservatives ^'llonlll lie organi^ced as u <Ustine.t party, with an aeknowUnlged leader." You raiulit havf adiied that, while agreeinu upon the necessity ofopposin.g the /yfo7/ /(/e», tor their nuuii-roiis misdeeds, we re.s|.'ectively reservi; I our prrlect IVceiloui to aot uiion political i|Uestions us we might dciem best lor the good of the eounti'v. You h.ive perfect lilierty to state the above I'acits when an 1 where you shall ehojse. 1 even ilesire that you should do so. Because I urn of the opinion that as a general rule, truth should see the light of day. 11' there are any excejitions to that rule they must be very few, and nothing but good must result from the I'act that upon every q.iestion the public should have the truth and the whole truth. Sir, those are the facts, and T see nothing but Ayhat is perfectly honoral)le for the Liberal party and for tlie Ultramontane^ of Lower Canada in that respect. I submit this with all c(mtidence to the approval and to the judgment of my fellow-countrymen. Now, ."^ir, I have dilated perhaps too long upon this question; but when I came to Ontario I thought that I would iiot discharge my duty fully if I snirked any of the issues which are now agitating the public opinion of Ontario. Sir, now I may say this : These recent events to which I have alluded have created in many minds the impression that we of the Liberal party have AT TOKONTO I.N ISSD Co? carried tuo far tlie doctrine of provincial rights. I submit, on the contrary, tluit tlicse recent events to •\vhicli I have alluded— and the whole history of Con- federation has ?hown the fact — that the power ot disallowance is the GREATKST DANGER TO rOM'EDEKATION to-di;y. The power of disallowance vested in the Central Government is not, mind you, the logical con- sequence of the iederative principle. On the contrary, it is altogether antagonistic to that jjrinciple.The fede- rative principle is that every Legi^hiture - whether it Le the Local Legi.-^latureor whctlier it he the Central Legislature — should be perfectly independent of each other; and, to my mind, if you interfere with the independence of one you comi)letely make away with its utility. I (piite understand, Sir,that the Tmijerial Parliament should keep the power of disallowance over the legislation of the Dominion Parliament. This is not the conae(iuence of the federative princii)lo. Tliis is in conse(iuence of our dependency as a colony. Peing dependent, it is nothing but right that the supreme i^owcr should retain to itself the i)owcr of disallowance if it so thinks fit. But, Sir, we are a loyal people ; we Ixiast of our loyalty every day ; yet Isubniit that the people of Canada never would tolerate from the Im- perial Government what the Government of Canada is trying to impose ui)on the provnces. Two or three years ago, when the Inter-])rovincial Conference met ni Quebec, they discusj^ed that subject, and they very projterh' determined that it wouUl be a proper a- Tuendment to our constitution that the power of veto, of disallowance of local legislation as Avell as of the Dominion legislation. should be vested in the Iinptrial (Government. The discussion which then took jdace has shown this, that in our constitution a great mis- take was made, and that when the i)owor of dii=allow- ance Avas vested in the Central Governnicnt.])rinciple was sacrificed to expediency. Tt was tlicn said that 558 srEEcir the i)()wer of diflunownnco was nrcpspnry for the pro- tection of minorities. ]3ut what has heen the result ? The })o\ver of disaUowance has heen shamefully made use of by the Conservative party for pariv jairposes. It has heen exercised or it has heen withlield ju.st AS SUITED PARTY PURPOSES. Sir, there is to-day a sentiment of difference between Ontario and Quebec. This is not of to-day only. This existed in former times. Remember, fientleruen. the old veterans of former times; rememlier when the people of Upi)er Canada complained that in local ques- tion.i their will was superseded by the will of the peo- ple of Quebec ! Hememher the old struggles that were waged by Mr. (ieorge Ih'own and by our friend, yiv. Mowat, upon this question ! In fact Confederation was hugely the result of the discontent which was aroused in Ontario, in conseciuence of the fact that the will of the people oi Ontario was sujierseded by the Quebec majority which supported the Government of that time. Do you want, my fellow-countrymen, to see tliose old days revived ? If you want to see those ohl days revived, just let this policy prevail of allowing the supreme power in the Government of Canada, to set its will against the will of the people of the prov- inces. Remember the conllict which was created only a few years ago, when the Government of Sir John Macdonald, shocked and horrified by the injustice of jNIr. Mowat passing such a law as tlie streams' bill, disallowed it. Well, what the people of Ontario com- jilainedofat that time the })eople of Quebec would complain of to-day. Sir Isim])ly say this, that in the sphere which is allotted to every Legislature. THE ONLY TRIBUNAL to which this Legislature is amenable is the peoi)le which elected it. But, Sir, it is said that the Legis- lature may pass a law which would be prejudicial to AT TORONTO IN 5o9 the jjeiieriil interests of Canada, and that in sncli a caae such a law should be disallowed. l{ut are you (luito sure that the power of disallowance, thus exercised, will bo more in the interest of Canada than the law disallowed? Take the case of Manitoba. The people of Manitoba believed that railway competition was in the interest of their province. The Covernment of Canada asserted that monopoly in Manitoba was essential to the benefit of Canada, and, in eonse(|Uenc'e of that assertion, the (iovernnient ot Canada disallowed the will of the people of Manitoba which wanted railway competition. Will any one tell me here that the (lovernment of Canada, when it set its will against thepeoj)leof Manitoba, acted for the best interests of Canada? Will any one tell me that if you create discontent in a province you will promote general welfare in Canada? Will any one tell me, in fact, when wo have a system which allows local questions to be determined by local bodies, that it is for the general good that those local bodies should have their will set aside by a superior power ? Sir, I am not of this mind ; you cannot be of this mind ; and the i)eo- ple of Ontario have not been up to this moment of this mind ; but you are told every day — and this is Avhat is at the bottom of this agitation — that the majority of the people in Quebec are aliuf^ing their p(nver to jiromote legislation which is ofTensive to the Protestant minority. Sir, this is the statement which lias been made, I know. Jkit let me tell you this. my fellow-countrymen : If my fellow-countrymen. the Protestants of Quebec, have any legislation of which they have just right to complain, let me just tell you thi.s — though that is a thing which I am not prepared at this moment to admit — every single piece of that legislation has been passed with their con- currence. Sir, the Protestant minority of Quol)ec, for reasons of their own, for reasons which T shall not at this moment discuss, have invariably since the year 1854 5C0 SPEECH SUI'POIITED THE CONSEUVATINE PARTY, iiml every pieco of legislatitHi which is now sigiiiilized !i.s being ofr(!n?ive to the Proie-tiint minority hus Iteen put, ui)on the stiituto ho()|< Ijy the Cons^erviitive party ; unil fvcry (imo witii the concurrence ofthe I'rotcrftiint minority. Nnw. Sir, it muy he — I am not iiere to deny it — it may he that si»mo of tliis Icgialiition to-day is found to 1)0 offensive to tlie Protestant minority'; but if it is HO, Wduhl it not be fair to ask tlie Protest- ant minority to come l)efv)re the FiCgisIature of (iuebec, and tliero to lay their (lomplaint '.'' I ask it of you, gentlemen, in th(i spirit of fairness wliich has ever characterized a JJritish audience, is it fair, is it loyal to charge my fellow-countrymen with tyrannizing the minority ? N'ever, never, in any onc^ single instance, was a protest ever made to the Legislature (»f (iuebec. Sir, I say more. I belong to a race which is not without faults, but which is, T am sure, as kind- hearted as any race to l)e found on the face of the earth. I l)elong to a race which every man ol'liritish origin who luis known it has always proclaimed as nin> of the most peaceable and friendly to be found anywhere; audi make ludd to say, in the name of my fellow-countrymen of French origin, that when- ever aju.st complaint is made to them, that ju-t com- jthiint will be heard. I ask this, those wiio eomphiin, if they want to go to the Governor- lieneral, let them go; if they want to goto the Dcnninion Parliament, let them go ; l)ut I only ask that, before so (h)ing, they should come to the first Legislature that can remedy their grievances, that is the Legislature in which they have the ])0wer to elect some ten or twtdve members o*" their own persuasion and creed and origin. Ihni it not been for this unfortunate circumstance, that they never made any i>rotest to the local legishature, I am sure that at no time this unfor- tunate controversy wouhl have taken place. I am sure that at no time this unfortunate principle of Dominion interference in local legislation would have AT TORONTO IN ISSV) 5(11 been luaiiitiiined ; but, Sir, this is ii prim-iple which, cnnnut bo trilled with. If you once luliiiit that tlHt Dominion I'urliainent lias tho right to review and t«» annul, jUHt by the mere motion of ita iiund, the legia- lation <if any local body, .ItST AS WKI.I, MAKE AWAY with the wlioh; itaraphornalia of Confederation and have legislative union at once — because it will amount to ligisiulive union. This is an issue upon which tln.- Liberal party has fought a long, long battle. I know- very well thi.s; that this prineijile cannot be allirmcd without giving otl'ei.ce now in one province and now in another province. Hut Conl'ederatiun, Sir. cannot be- woikcd unless we adhere to the principle in which it was conceived, v.hich was u sej)aration of iiower-s letwcenlccal bodies, .'•upreme in their sphere, and tl.u general body, aho s-upremein its sphere. Sir, so far we have been pretty &ucces^ful. T admit we havetlic^eiittlo diniculties. but I trust in tlie jmlguient and in tin? sober rellection of my I'ellow-countrymen of all creeds, of all races, and of all provinces, again to aflirm that what was done in ISBT was good work and should b«r maintained. Now, Sir, under that system, since 1807 we have been, I must say, pretty successful. We havr not been as successful as we might have been, and there is one thing which, for one, I deeply deprecate. It is that under that system, though we started with the intention of creating amongst us a new nation, we. have not yet succeeded in creating a national senti- jticnt through the breadth and length of the Dominioi. of Canada. This is a thing which we must strive after, and this is a thing for which the Liberal party in every (b'.y stiiving, but we cannot achieve that object imless we are able to show our people that it will bring them the greatest amount possible of prosperity- I am not of those who would deny — if there beany -who would, which I do not believe — that we have made in the way of pri)gres3 gigantic strides, still ob J)62 SPEECH WE HAVE NOT DONE all we should have done. It was eaid of a king of antiquity tliat he said " nothing is dune as long as there i^^ something to do. " It is true that the Conser- vative partj' tell us every day that we are the most prosperous people on the face of the earth, that milk and honey flow in the land — though you do nut see it much — that everything is for the best in the best of worlds ; but, though the Conservative party every day sing prcans in favor of the present state" of things, their actions, I submit, tell a different tale. They will not tell you that we should change any- thing ; they will not tell you that we should reform any thing. Reform is a hateful word to them, but though they do not tell you in so many words, you find in their actions evidences that they are not altogether satisfied with the present state of things. In the very ranks uf the Con.aervative party, you have an associa- tion formed to promote Imperial Federation. What does this mean? It certainly means that in their esti- iiiation something should ])e done. Well, I ara not one of those who believe in IMPERIAL FEDERATION. What we need is not a political reform, at this moment, it is not a change in our political status, What we want IS a commercial and economic reform. This thought has been well illustrated in the House of Commons itself within the ranks of the Conservative party in theeessionof 1888. Inthesessionof 1888, Mr. Marshall, a supj)urtfc of the Government, moved a resolution affirming in substance that it would be to the advan- tage of Canada to have closer commercial relations "with the mother country. Such a resolution, couched in such a few words could not be satisfactory. Accordingly, Mr. Dalton McCarthy gave notice of another motion which was more proper, and this is what he intended to offer to the House: That it would be in the local interests of tlie Dominion that such changes should be sought for in the trade relations AT TORONTO IN 1SS9 563 betwoen tho United Kinjidomand C.aniidaas would jjivo Canada advantages in the maritets of the mother country not allowed to foreign States, Canada being willing for such privileges to discriminate in her markets in favor of Great Britain and Ireland, due regard being had to the jjolicy adopted in 1879 for the purpose of fostering the various interests and imlustries of the Dominion and to the financial necessities of the Domi- nion. This resolution, T said, was not moved. The author had no occasion to move it, or devek){) it, hut on the motion of Mr. Marshall he indicated that the policy adopted should be that England should receive our cereals free of duty, but tax the cereals of every other country, and if they would do that we would l)e so magnanimous as to lower the tariff by a few inches which we have ^ut in the face of British industries. Well, I may say i is at once, I would be in favor of a more close commercial alliance of Canada with Great Britain. T would favor it witli all my soul. Hut, Sir, if there is any man who believes tliat any such alliance l)etween Canada and Groat Jiritain can be formed upon any other liasis than that of free trade wliich l)revail3 in England, that man is a " Rip van Winkle " who has been sleeping not only for the last seven years, but for the last fourty-four years. Why, Mr. Chairman, the British people will not to-day go back ON THE POIJCY OK FRICK TllADE which they have adopted, and C^anada is Tiot in a posi- tion at this nn)ment, with the large revenue which she has to collect, to adopt any other tariff than a revenue tariff at best. So that the conditions are not equal upon which you can form a closer commercial alliance between Canada and Great Britain ; but there is alongside of us a kindred nation economically situ- ated as we are — the United States — and we claim that that commercial alliance which at this moment is not possible with England is possible with the Unite.I States, and the policy which we have advocated. I III 564 SPEECH •which we still continue to advocate, is the removal of all commercial barriers between this country and the great kindred nation to the south of us. Now, 8ir, there is not a man in this audience, there is not a man in Canada, I venture to say, who, if he were to speak the honest conviction of his heart, would not say that this would be a most advantageous policy to Canada. Still that policy is objected to. On what ground? On the same ground of distrust and diffidence to which I alluded at a former stage, and which seems to ])er- meate every feature of our national life. Men there are who tell you that if wh) had unrestricted recipro- city we would have annexation. But I ask those men, if they voted for UNRESTRICTED UECIPROCITY, would they be disfranchised? Will they not l)c able to vote against annexation if that becomes a question ? It is idle to talk about this. I am sorry to say that some of those who started to figlit the battle of reci- 'procity have since grown faint-hearted. We are tuld that (HU' chances of securing reciprocity have !)een diminished because the Democrats were defeated in the last Presidential election. During ]\[r. Cleveland's administration, it is said, it would have been possible to obtain unrestricted reciprocity ; there would have been some chance. Now, Sir, my good friend, Sir Richard Cartwright, moved his first motion in favor of reciprocity in the year ISSS — in the very year the Presidential election was held, and if there is any man who at that time, with a knowledge of historj%expected that reciprocity would be brought about in the course of twelve months or twenty months, he has not read history as I have read it. I have read it in this way, that every reform has cost to the reformers years of labor, and those years of labor I for one am prepared to give, and though the Democrats may be de- feated in the States and though Canadians may grow faint-hearted in Canada, the Liberal party, as long as AT TORONTO IX 1SS9 565 I have anything to do with it, will remain true to the cause until that cause is successful. T will nut expect to win in a day. but I am prepared to remain in the cool shades oi'Opposititju until the causae has triuinph- f'd, and you never shall hoar a complaint fro.u me. Rut some think that, thou!j;h uniostricted rpci])rocity is posriible, it is not probable. We are ox THH EVE OF TUIUMPII. The triniupb is iit our band^ if we only know bow to play our cards. Some men say tboy are discouraged because the Democrats have been defeated and the Rejmblicans ai'e in ])ower, and they say we cannot have from the Reiiuldicau party what the Democraiio, ])arty would have been prepared to give U3. Sir. I am afraiil with tbo^e people the wish is father to the im- presffion. If any one will read the evidences which are now going on the other side of the line, he will see that there is no cause to be discouraged because the Ri'p.ublicans are in })ower. Why, in this very month there is to assemble at Washington a Ccnigress of American nations, summoned by the Government of tb.e day. to discuss what ? To discuss closer com- mercial relations ])etween the United States and those nations. Well, certaiidy what can be discussed with the southern republics by the American Government can be well discussed by the American Government with the Canadian Government. I can see no reason why we should nut attempt to do the same. This con- vention is to meet under a resolution of Congress which reads as follows : — 'I'lie ailoption of uniform patent and copy-right laws ; the establislunent of regular and freijuent communication between the (lilferent countries i)articipating in the conference : the selection of a jilan of settling international disputes; the adoption of a uniform silver coinage, and of a uniform standard of weights and measures ; the adoption of a uniform standard of customs and taritF'luties. I I J" if i t* ':}H * t '■« m hi' m •r. ti "ii 666 SPEECH 5 ■ Is that plain enough ? The adoption of a uniform standard of Customs and tariff duties. I am not prepared to say I would be disposed to concur in all which is here asserted, but I do certainly say that the Government of the United States is disposed to di-^cuss Reciprocity with Canada, if Canada wants Reciprocity. I say more ; the question of Reciprocity in the United States has not yet become a party ques- tion, and I do hope, on my part — I would prefer — that it should not be made A PARTY QUESTION. I prefer to see it remain what it is — a geographical question, interesting the Northern and Central States ; and if it be kept in those lines I have much hope of an early success. It is quite evident that the Repub- lican Government of President Harrison is disposed to discuss to-day unrestricted reciprocity with the neighboring States or Republics, and is therefore disposed to discuss Reciprocity with Canada if Canada only wants unrestricted reciprocity' with the United States. We must not lose heart. There is no cause to lose heart. Tt is most important that we make proselytes not only amongst ourselves, but amongst our American neighbors. There is great encourage- ment to ihe Liberal party, to all who think well of their country and who are disposed to study her best interests, in the fact that Massachusetts, ever forward in the cause of advanced legislation, has almost unani- mously pronounced l)y the Uiouth of its business men in favor of unrestricted reciprocity with Canada. That being the case, all the more reason there is why we should go on with the agitation we have com- menced not yet two years ago. And, Sir, there is more than that. There are at this moment indications that the Government of Sir John Macdonald are pre- paring, as the vulgar phrase goes, " to dish the Libe- rals. " What, you will say, is the meaning of this? Well, the literal signification of it is that Sir John, Gtill audacious, intends AT TORONTO IN 1889 567 TO STEAL THE CLOTHES of the Liberal party, and is preparing at the next election to present himself in the habiliments so boldly stolen. Well, we can stand it. We are not to be pitied ! Oh, no ! The men to be pitipJ are the poor Tories who have for so long bawled themselves hoarse on the theme, to them so congenial, of the danger to Imperial Confederation which lurks in unrestricted reciprocity with the great nation to the south of us. The party to be pitied is not the Liberal party, but the party which is compelled to swallow the dose tliey now aver to be so nauseous to the country and detrimental to Canada. But, nauseous as the dose is, they will, as in the past, swallow it. If it is necessary to retain them in power, it is not at all too sickening for the Tory stomach. But if the Liberals are to be pitied even a little at this time, it is that after all the abuse heaped upon them they have to provide clothes for those who have most reviled them. The Tories whenever they get a new suit never attempt to put it off until it is torn and in rags ; and then when the hour of Tory necessity comes, when their nakedness is but too apparent, the Liberals arc dislied and their clothes are stolen. The Liberal party to-day, as in the past, stands true to its Liberal principles; above all, it stands true to ihe country and to the interests that will best inure to its welfare and prosperity. If Sir John Macdonald will adopt our programme and give us unrestricted reciprocity, with all my heart, in the matter, I will pledge him that he will h;ive the most em])hatic support. I am not sure, however, that he will g»j as far as that. I am (luite prepared to believe that he will take A LITTLE BIT OF RECII'llOCITV, and then another little bit of recii)r:>city, and then Bay to the people of Canada : Well, we went on our knees to the Yankees, and we could not get any more. t;*i r.i'iA s^?' Tl •l! •'■M <^s SPEECH Even if be goes a little in this waj', if he. secures even -a litt' bit of reciprocity, it will be so much done; •■we will take fresh courage and look for uiore^ because I tell you the Liberal party will never cease the agi- tation until they triumph and obtain Continental Free Trade. We are asked sometimes, gentlemen, what is the ))rogramme uf the Liberal party. This is the programme of the Lil)eral party : — To obtuin con- tinef.tal freedom of trade. That is our programme at this moniool Put, gentlemen, others of you will say, is that the oily qu J.«tion? Are tliere no other qucs- Vh Inns pressing for .solution? Yes, gentlenjcn, tlicre are oth ;r (iucstions,ai.'d important (piestions, t:)0, that Avill sou . ^oMiP int > tlie aroi;a of active })olitici ; l)ut as I read history, as I i'~:d Canadian history, ono great reform at a timo .•.•^as much as a party can effect, and if we fix our eyes steadily on one reform and de- vote Jill our energies to its accomplishment, success will certainly crown our efforts at no distant duy ; fix- ing our eyes steadily upon tlie goal, avc sliall go on steadily until we reach it — unrestricted continental reciprocity. Mr. Baldwin devoted his life tooue single reform, that of responsible government. Mr. Brown gave his life to one single reform, representation by population ; and if the Liberals of to-day can achieve what they now have in view, and i)roclaim the great principles of continental free trade, they will liave done a great good to the country, they will have con- ferred a boon on the British race, they will have be- mefited nuvnkind ; they will have performed a service of which they will have every reason to bo proud. I^Tuw, Sir, I will say here that THE LIBERAL PAUTY ARE UNITED in this : What we want is not the cry of Imperial Fe- deration as it has been set forth lately, but political, commercial and economic reform, and an alliance not limited simply to the British Empire, but which will embrace every nation sprung from the stock of Britain. AT TORONTO IN 1889 r>{)0 Can there be any good reason Avliy this sliouhl not bn accoini)lished? Can there be any reason why in sucli a great reform United Stales sliouhl be left out? I conteris T can see none. The British ra( e is the great trading race of the workl, Thoy are scattered all over the face of this earth, f am a French ('an:ulian, speaking as a Canadian, and I say to my fellow-Cana- dians that the course the great Liberal |);irty should l)ursue U that \vhi(,'h \vill besttend towards the speedy attainment of this great object, an alliance of the whole British race ujion the face of the eartli ; and if we obtain an alliance, a commercial alliance between Canada and the United Slates, we sliall have fitted one link of the chain ; but we should not be satisticd until ring after ring has been added, and until with a strong chain we have encircled the whole globe. But I have done. While I have re[)resented that the condition of our country cannot be viewed excej)t with some little degree of anxiety and alarm, yet all of us. whatever our creed, whatever (mr race, what- ever our i-rovince, if we onl}' bring ourselves up to the level of trusting each other, of having confidence in our own better nature and having I t A BETTER OPINIOX OF EACH oTIIER, ..■e shall have good cause for hope in the future. T shall never be disturbed by 'wild talk, whether in Quebec or Ontario ; it is only wild talk ; it is only the safety valve by which the surplus steam will escape and do no harm. When the excitement has subsided, let us remember that, though divided by different tenets and of different religious creeds, we all worship the same God ! Let us remember that, though divided in religious forms, still we all believe in Him who came to earth to bring to men peace and good will, and if we are true to those teachings, if we are ever ready to give and to take, to make all allow- ance for the opinions, nay, for the prejudices of my fellow-countrymen, for my i^art I never shall despair of the future of our young country. :V 1 ^!' ,1 THE DOAL LANGOAGE dUESTION SPEECH DELIVERED BY Mr. LAURIER IN THE COMMONS ON 11th FEBRUARY, 1890, AGAINST MR. IW^CARTHY's BILL TO ABOLISH THE FRENCH LANGUAGE IN THE LEGISLATURE OF THE NORTH- WEST TERRITORIES. Mr. Speaker, If I, for one, could accept the declaration often made by the mover of this Bill, not only while intro- ducing it. but on several occasions befure, protesting that to the course which he had adopted for himself, and of which this is only the preliminary step, he was impelled by no other motive than a desire, a lofty desire, of securing the future of this country from dis- sension, and of ensuring peace and harmony by re- moving all causes of contention, I would be sorry that the honorable gentleman, harboring in his heart aims so high, should have endeavored to accomplish them by means so selfish, and so ungenerous, as those which underlie the measure which he has brought before the House. When, however, the honorable gentleman, in order to find a motive for the measure to which he called the attention of the House, invokes considerations of such far-reaching prudence, he is simply deluding himself. The honorable gentleman, no doubt, may persuade himself, but he will with difficulty convince those to whom he has been address- ing himself, that his ultimate object in this matter is I I m l4 H 1. 1 I 672 SPEECH simply to secure the futnro peace and liarmony of this country, while hia present action must tend to ondan- }rer the peace and harmony which happily prevail. I can find nothin<? in this ))ill, I must say, but the old, Ol.n .SiniUT OK DOMINATION AND INTOLKKANCE which, in this land and in other hinds, has always characterized the course of pure, unadulterated To- ryism. The measure, taken by itself, disconnected from the motives which inspired it, would not be of very great importance -we are all agreed upon that — ])Ut it is of tlie greatest importance for this reason that it constitutes a declaration of war by the honor- able gentleman and those with whom he is acting against the French race. It is a declaration of war, T say, against the French race of this country, of whicli the honorable gentleman, iri this House, spoke in nti disres])ectful terms, but of whi(!h, in other places in the province of Ontario, he spoke in terms which ho Avould not dare to repeat on the lloor of this House ; the hon. gentleman spoke of the French race in terms of oji- probrium, which, I say again, he would not dare to re- peat in this House in presence of French Canadians, who, by law, are on a plane of equality with him in this House. He would not dare to apply here to my fellow-countrymen of French origin, the terms and e])ithets which he applied to them on former occa- sions in the province of Ontario. He would not dare to say here what he said elsewhere, he would not dare to call that race here as he did elsewhere — A " BASTARD NATIONALITY." T have here his language, which he used not later than the 12th July last, at Stayner, Ont., where he said : In Barrie,last election,! pointed out,in .a few simple wordf, that the great danger which overshaiiowed Canada was the Frencli national cry, this bastard nationaUty,not a nationality which will take us in as we will take them in, but a nationality ACiAI>'.ST MH. McCarthy's bill which begins and ends witli the French raco,— wliich hcf^ins aiul ends witli those who profess the Honian Catholic faith, and which now threatens tho<lisniemberment ofCana(hi. A "bastard nationality, "a "clanger to Canada" ! Why, Sir, the days are not five years distant when this " bastard nationality," to use the choice words of the honorable gentleman, was unanimous in their support of the Corpervative party to which the honorable gentleman, then as now, belonged ; the days are not five years distant when the honorable gentleman might have counted on his fingers the members of that race in this House who did not belong to the Conser- valivo party. And yet in those days, and as long as that race gave his party nearly the whole weight of their infiuence, we never heard of any danger to Ca- nada from this French national cry. In those days the sensitiveness of the honorable gentleman, now so easily alarmed, did not seem to be in the least con- cerned. Nay, more, my fellow-countrymen of French origin, on the same side of the House to which he belongs, could appeal, and did appeal, to all prejudi- ces of my own race ; but that was a legitimate war- fare, because the national cry was made to do ser- vice in behalf of the Conservative party, to give them ofilce, and to procure for them the direct and in- direct profits of ofiice. The speech delivered the other night by my honorable friend, the Minister of Public Works, and to which, I must say, legitimate objec- tion was taken by my honorable friend from North Oxford (Mr. Sutlierland), was simply, in condensed form, the food which, for the last twen ty-five years, has been served up every day by the Conservative ministerial press of the jjrovince of Quebec. Yet in those days not one word was ever heard as to any danger to Canada from this national cry. But matters are altered to-day. To-day the French Canadians are NO LONGER A fNIT : 3 ■■li , if in their support of the Conservative party ; and what 571 ei'EECH W119 {;()iiimc'n(liil)le,or iit least unohjectioiial)le,in those (lays, has now become a danger to Canada. A dange r to Canada, Sir ! 1 venture ti) nay, judu'inp of the fu- ture by the past, that if the Krenoli Canadians were again to unite and give tlio whole weight of their in- fluence to the party to which the honorable gentleman Htill belongs, not one wnvd niori; would we heard about this danger to Canada from the P^-ench national cry ; i)ecau3e, though the honorable gentleman afTects now to be a free lance, still he belongs to the party commanded by the Prime Minister, lie; may not be a very dinciplined .«ol(lier, he may he carrying on a guerilla warfare, according to his methods, but after all, he is working for the benctit of tin- Conservative party, lie has told us himself on more than one oc- casion. Not fifteen days ago, he said so in Colling- wo(«l,iind be siiid so on the 12th July last, at Stayner. It i.4 well known that it was on the 12lh July last iit ytayner, amongst his own constituents, that the hono- rable gentleman started on the war jiath. fie then stated that be was furbishing his own weapons, and that when Parliament again met he was going to give assault to the FriMich. Ilia ardor was such that he deprecated the unfortunate condition of things whicli, under the Constitution, did not permit him to attack them wherever his ardor would impel him, but under the Constitution, he said he could attack the French language in the North-West Territories, and attack he would as soon as the occasion offered. P)Ut at tiie same time the honorable gentleman, addressing bis constituents — all ofthern, probably, good Tories was careful to tell them that he was still a Conservative, that he would remain a Conservative, and that A OO.NSKEtVATIVE HE HOPED TO DIE ; and T have no doubt that that is true, because I do not think the honorable gentleman has the slightest particle of Liberalism in his composition. After thi«, some candid souls have asked if tlic honorable gent- AGAINST MB. M CARTHY's DIM. 575 Inman was in sympatliy with the Prime Ministor, or if he WHS starting a new movement of his own. A most useless (luostion, for wlmtever may he the aim of (lie honoralile f,'entleinan,it ia (juite certain tiiat he means no harm to the Conservative party, still less to the leader of the party. Upon that occasion, he spoUc of his attachment to the paity, and to the leader of the party, in terms of j^ushinj^ efTusiveness which, I must say, tlie honorahle gentleman is not accustdiued to use. I might (luote several expressions of hi.'*, hut here is one which is characteristic of the wIidIc tenor of his sjieech : "ir' I will treat my old cliieftiiin with nil tomlorness, lor I iiiii ■till a meniljer of tlie party. I cannot be read out, iiltliou;:li I do not know wliat i.s in .store for me. The hon. memhcr (Mr. McCarth . \^ not li r(',l)ut, if lie were here [ would tell him that he can keej) his soul in peace.' He need not fret nor worry over what is in store for him. for T know tlu; right honorable <:ei)t- Usman's astuteness too well — not to mention his iiohler (jualities — not to be aware that. if the honorahle gent- leman brings recruits to th<' party, he will be forgiven, and,' it is for recruits to the i>arty that he is looking now. I regret that the honorable gentleman is not heie as I would rather sjjsak in his presence than in his absence, but, in all sincerity, I say that T believe 1 e is looking for recruits t'or the Conservative part}', wtiile, of course, not forgetting himself. The t'onser- vutive i)arty have been in power for a long time ; thev have been in power nearly continuously for thirty years and it is a matter of history that, during that time, they have been kept in power almost entirely I5V THE FKKNCH CATHOI.KJ SUPPOKT of the province of Quebec. That is a support upon which they can no longer rely, because the people of Quebec are now divided in their p(jlitical allegiance ; but it must be manifest to everybody that an English 576 SPEECH ; *-• i Protestant united Ontario would be just as effective for party purposes, and this seems to be the task which the honorable gentleman has set before him to accomplish. It is always an easy and a cheap task to arouse and inflame prejudices. Give me a meeting or assembly of men, v.-hether it be small or large, and in that meeting I will find passions and prejudices, noble in themselves, but which can be easily excited into dangerous passions and prejudices. The honor- able gentleman is nuw endeavoring to arouse preju- dices which old quarrels, religious fervor, and pride of rac'', may have left in the breasts of his felUnv- count. /men of PZngli^h origin. lie tells them th;it if the country is to be kept British all Canadians of Bri- tish origin must unite ; at the same time he states that he is a Conservative, that he will remain a Con- servative, that he will not be separated from his leader. Tf the appeals which he has been making were to be successful, to whom wouldthey profit and whom would they affect? Tliey certainly wouUl not affect the Conservatives, because tlie lionorable gen- tleman states that he is still in allegiance with them, .aid that they belong to the same party. If they would iiffect anybody, they would atTect the Liberals of On- tario, who, fearing perhaps for British connectiun, might 1)0 induced to follow the honorable gentleman 'nto the Conservative party, for which he could frame a policy and of whi'- h then he would be dictator. Well, if this moveujcnt of the honorable gentle- man .vere to be terminated here, if it were attempted merely to do service as a party device and to end there, it might not be viewed with much alarm. If this measure of the honorable gentleman were not to be followed by any other, if it were to remain as it appears here,'a measure for the PROSCRIPTION OF THE FRENCH LANGUAGE confined to the North-West Territories alone, where the French population is small, I say at once that I AGAINST MR. MCCARTHY'S BILL 677 would be inclined to say : Let the measure pass and let us return to those measures of practical uriefulnesa which demand our attention. But this is not the last movement of the honorable gentleman. This is only a preliminary skirmish, soon to be followed by a ge- neral onslaught upon the whole Freich race in Cana- da. I have before me the words of the honorable gentleman, and he has more tlian once told us that his object is a hand-to-hand conllict with the French race of Canada. If he did not say so in so many words, there is no mistaking his meaning that his ul- timate object is the annihilation of the French race as an individual people in this Dominion. In his speech at Btayner, he unfolded his whole mind, and, address- ing himself to the English section of the people of the Dominion, he said : Tlicre is a great work cut out for us to do. Lot us begin with tluit wiiich si'tms most poi^sibie oC accoraplishiiH'iit. Let us (leal with the dual languages in the North- West. In the Local House let us tleal with the teaching of French in tlie schools. When these two matters are settled, we will have acconiplisheil somettiing, and wo may be able to do something better in future. These words are (juite significant. This Bill, the introduction of this measure, is simply a preliminary step, and when that is accomplished it is lo be fol- lowed by something better. And what is that some- thing better which is to follow? The honorable gen- tleman has not left us in doubt as to that. Here are his words : We must buckle on our armor This is a liritish country, and the sooner we take np our l-'reneh Canadians and make them British, the less tioulile will we leave lor pos- terity, f'c" sooner or latei' nmst this mattei- be settled. Nothing can lie plainer than this language. The French Canadians are to be deprived of their lan- guage, not only in the North-West Territories, but Oi ^4 m If- .1' •■•.If 578 SPEECH WHEREVEU THEIR LANGUAGE EXISTS. •'I They must be deprived of everything which consti- tutf 8 their distinct individuality in this Dominion. and this must be done by legislation now ; but, if not done now by legislation, in future it will be done by force and violence — by bullets and bayonets. The expres- sion is not mine, but that uf the honorable gentleman himself. It has been repeated, not once or twice, but several times in different parts of the Dominion. So this is the policy upon which the honorable gen- tleman is endeavoring to form a new party, or to re- organise an old party. This is the policy the hono- rable gentleman offers to his fellow-countrymen of English origin. I denounce this policy as anti-Cana- dian ; I denounce it as anti-British ; I denounce it as being at variance with all the traditions ofDritish Oovernnient in this country ; I denounce it aa fatal to the hope we at one time entertained, and which I, for one.am not d'spoped to give up, of forming a nation * n tliis Continent. I denounce it as a crime, the con- sequences of which aie simply shocking to contem- plate. The honorable gentleman may mean nothing more than a mere party device, but he is opening the flood-gates to passions which, once aroused, perhaps no human power may be able to restrain. He is api)ealing to national and religious passions, the most inflexible of all passions, and — whatever may be his motive, whatever his end, whatever his purjiose — his movement cannot be characterised by any other lan- guage ihan that of a national crime. I do not know • what are the motives which are actuating the hono- • rable gentleman ; I do not know them fully. I look • only at the consequences. But, whatever may be ' the honorable gentleman's motives, he has more than • once felt impelled to repudiate the statement that he '■ is actuated by hatred of the French race. If he were here, I would tell him that I accept his statement absolutely and entirely. Hatred is so base a senti- ment that I would not impute it to him, but, if he is not actuated by hatred, it is evident that he has AGAINST MR. MCCARTHY'S BILL ,579 A VERY STRANGE MISCONCEPTION of the character of French Canadians, and niu3t have a very low estimate of their moral standard. In the speech to which I have already alluded, the honora- ble gentleman did not hesitate to go considerably out of his way, in order to refer to the agitation which, a few years ago, passed over the province of Quebec, consequent upon the rebellion in the North-West and the execution of the chief participant in the same. He did not hesitate then to attribute the storm of indignation which, at that time, convulsed a highly emotional race, to the lowest sentiments which can actuate +hc human heart, and those expressions were, to a ce: cain extent, reproduced in the House, the other 'iay, by the honorable member for North Bruce (Mr. NcNeill), in the attempt he made to attack my hono/'able friend ])eside me (Mr. Blake) for tlie cour- ageous stand which he took upon that question. The honorable member for North Simcoe (Mr. McCarthy) did not hesitate to say that, if the people of Quebec took the stand they did at that time, it was from a most dishonest motive ; that it was simply an attempt to stand between a criminal and justice, l)ecau3e the so-cilled criminal happened to be one of their own race. U9 lis IS 'I'liose wlio have done mo tlie honor to pay close attention to my political career, will remember that in the County of Ilalitimand two or three years ago I raised the warning note. 1 pointed out that the province of (Quebec ha 1 beei worked up to madness against the Dominion authorities f j daring to execute justice upon a Frenchman. •' For daring to execute justice upon a French- man. ■' I repeat this sentiment in his own words. Well, I have simply this to sjiy, that whoever declares that the position taken by the i)eople of Quebec upon this (luestion was not an honest one is n :> ''if s..;: 3 :': 580 SPEECH GUILTY OF SLANDER and make? a statement the truth of which he cannot prove. The honorable gentleman has not, however, the odium of having invented that charge. It has been a stuck phrase of the conservative ministerial press of Ontario for the last three or four years. So long as it was simply confined to some obscure scrib- blers, it might be passed in silence, but when th» honorable gentleman did not hesitate to give it the cmmtenance of his name and rej)utation, and when, moreover, such sentiments are re-echoed in this House, I cannot allow the charge to pass unrebuked. I will meet the honorable gentleman on his own grounds. T will not dispute his expression that the people of Quebec were driven to madness on this question, but as to the motives attributed by him I Avill state that the people of Quebec believe in their conscience, whether right or wrong, thnt the execution " of that Frenchman " (to use the words of the honor- able gentleman) was an unjustifiable homicide. The honorable gentleman will not forget tliat twenty-three uf his colleagues, twenty-three of those who sui)))orted that administration like himself — most of them who, like himself will not be read out of the party, but wlio will remain conservatives — telegraphed to the Prime Minister that the execution would be a crime. This is not all ; there is more than that. The honor- able gentlemnn will not forget that the press of the civilised world decided upon that occasion that " mercy should rule and not severity. " Tlie opinion of the press of the whole world, the London Lanrct, the Christian World, the London Dititi/ Nncs, the London Echo, the Pall- Mall Gazette in England, fj' National, Lc Journal dcs Drbats and Lc Tcli'i/raplic in France, Harper's Wrcldy, the 77?ncs, the Woild. the Cnnuncrcial Advertiser of New-York, and scores of other journals in the United States, gave it as their opinion that 1- V . AGAINST MR. MCCARTHY S BILL 5S1 MERCY SHOILO HAVE BEEN THE RfLE upon that occasion. I will tell the honorahle geiitleuuiu who has interrupted me that it' those jj;reat organs of public opinion came to tlie cunclu.sion that mercy should have been the rule U[>on that oc( asion. how- dare he now contest the honesty of tlie peo[)le of Quebec who came to the same conclusion? U those who were without the conflict, if those who luoked from a calmer si)here came to this conclusion, i.s it to be wondered at that the piiople of Quebec came to the.^ame conclusion. thouLrii it may be regretted that they expressed their opinion in sucli violent language ? I say more. There is no one man of English origin, if he be true to the standar I of that proud race which never tolerated injustice, and never submitted to tyranny, who, looking at the long tale of woe and misery which resulted in the rebellion in the North- West, but must feel his heart indignant — not against the poor wretches who, goii led to madness and driven to desi)air by years of careless indilTereuce, at last risked life and limb and fii>edom, risked the loss of everything dear to nnm, to get justice, and then alone obtained it — but against those wdio by their own su])ineness had brought about such a crime on the fair name of the country. There is more than that. If the history of that rebellion were told, it would unfold to the world A TRAGKDY DARKER THAN HAMLET. There was a race of men on the border between savage and civilised life ; advanced enough to understand the value of property, but not advanced enough to defend their property against those unfeeling specu- lators who everywhere precede civilisation. Among the wdiole race tlien in Canada there was not one who had received the smallest rudiment of education; but they had heard there w-as one of their number who had been more favored than they in this respect, and m m I'. ■ - ^U I i 582 SPDECIl he Wfis then an exile. If he were brought back to the Territorie:?, might lie not procure for theiu the act of simple justice which they themselves could not obtain? To him they appealed; but, misfortune greater than all their misfortune! the man to whooa they thus appealed to be the eye to aee for them, the mind to guide them, the arm to protect them, had been touched by the hand of (lod, and was the most helpless of them all. In the face of such facts, the judgment of my fellow-countrymen can be impugned, but their honesty cannot bo assailed. It is a vile imputation to attack their honesty of ))urpose ; and if I have thus alluded to these facts, it is not with a view of recrimination, it is not with a view of perpe- tuating tbe bitterness of these sad days. But since we are threatened with a war of races, since my honor- able friend (Mr. McCarthy) is going to api)eal to the l)eople of Ontario to unite together, I want at least fair play in tbe conte.'^t. I cannot allow that such a statement as this made at Stayner should go unre- buked, and I must do my share in the aitempt to re-establish jierverted truth. I cannot allow the fair name of my countrymen to be a.'^sailed by false f'tate- ments, and that the expression should go abroad uncontradicted that the people of Quebec will follow no law but the law of their own selfishness. Since the honorable gentleman (Mr. McCarthy) has taken this attitude, since he has tried to introduce this new policy, which outlines the course he has taken recently, we might have hoped that he were im- l)elled by MOTIVES OF A HIGHER and nobler consideration. lam not ignorant of the fact that, among the men who have adopted the same views as the honorable gentleman, there are many who have come to the conclusion Avhich the honorable gentleman has given expression to, from the convic- tion that the existence of two separate nationi.lities AGAINST MR. MCCARTHY S BILL 585 i in Canada is not compatible with the existence of the Dominion. This objection thus presented is one which I will not reject. On the contrary, I say this is a (juestion which must engross the serious attention, of all those who have at heart the future of the coun- try, for no one can close his eyes to the fact ihat the existence of two distinct nationalities must produce- sometimes, as if. has produced already, causes of ani^ry friction and, therefore, of danger. Jkit, Sir, we must deal with facts as ihey are, and deal with them as we iind them. Here are two different races geographi- cally ui'ited under the same ])oIitical allegiance, but 8ci)arated by numerous ethnical features. With those conflicting elements, it is the object of the honoral)le gentleman apjiarently — it is my own object certainly, and it is the object of us all, 1 believe — to try to form a nation. This is the problem we have to solve ; how shall we i)roceed to solve it? The honorable gentle- man has given as his method, the Tory method, and he has once more demonstrated that Tory methods never proceed from the nobler, higher instincts of the human heart and the human intellect, but always from the dread, the diflidence, and the distrust which everywhere has made the Tory i)arty. wherever it has had sway, suspicious and cruel. The honorable gen- tleman, looking around this broad Dominion, sees a ])opulation of one and a-half million inhabitants, nearly one third of our whole population, who are of French origin, attached to their language, their laws, their institutions, and their religion — attached to everything which oharacterises their separate indivi- duality. If the honorable gentleman hail stated that this was a cause of possible friction, and that we should endeavor to find Home means of alleviating that friction, I would agree with him ; but the hono- rable gentleman did not take that view. On tho contrary, he coldly asserts that if I I il[ ' i' 'i " '; I* Hi m '4 THE EXISTENCE OF TWO SEPARATE RACES here is not compatible with the existence of the Do.ni- ! ' ;i >.] il ! i J :-'%*,: 584 SPEECir nion, and, therefore, one must (li3api)ear ; and T have quoted hig words in which lie appeals to his friends of Enjjjlish- origin to hucklo on their armor, and see to it that we have only one nationality on this conti- nent. Sir, if this ]>olic'y were to prevail, what would be the result? What is it the honoralde gentleman has in view ? It is sim])ly this : that the French Cana- dians should feel tJie yoke on tlieir shouhlers, that they should l)e deprived by legislation, or hy force if necessary, of everything which hsis been granted to them hitherto. If this doctrine were to iircvail. on what foundation would this Confederation rest? The honoraVile gentleman, T am sure, would himself admit that i)ride ol' race, attachment to the memory uf one's nation and ancestors, are noble sentiments ; and yet the honorabU' gentleman coldly proi)OHes that one vand a-balf million of Canadians — in order, ashesays, tiiat they should become good Canadians — should renounce their origin and the tradition of their race. He proposes that the humiliation of one whole race in this country f-hould be the foundation of thin Domi- nican. Woe to the party which can adopt such degrad- ing doctrines as this! Who does not see that the humiliation ol'one race would lie a far greater danger to Confederation tlian any we have over yet known? I endorse the words spoken a short time ago by the honorable member for North Bruce (Mr. XcNeill), that we want to build up a nation on this continent ; and we Avant to establish such a state ot things that every citizen of tl.is country, whatever his origin may be, wliether he is English or French, shall (eel in his heart a supreme pride to call himself a Canadian. But I would a'«k the honorable gentleman — I could not appeal perhaps to his heart, though I might to his logical mind — does he believe that to subject one whole section of our population to the humiliation uf REKOUNCIXG ITS OUIGIK, of turning its back upon its history, would make them proud of the country ? Who does not perceive AGAINST MR. JFCARTIIY S BILL 0S5 1;,' m m that if you sliouUl force one section to hate the insti- tutions under wliich they live, those institutions can- not live? Sir, the humiliation of one race, one class. one creed, or one rnan is not the foundiition on which this f 'on federation can rest. There is but one foun- (hition for it, that i", to give the fullest scope and the fullest sway to all those sentiments which could nut l)e torn fnun the heart without causing a hiss of pride. The honorable gentleman seems to think that all Canadians should be cast in tlie san;e mould. He is proud of his race, and ho has every reason in be proud of it; but. !Sir, it d''.>s not follow that we shoubl all be Knglish-sj)eakii ^i; Canadians, that wc should all be merged in the Anglo-Saxon element. Cevtainly no one can respect or admire more thiin I do the An- jjrlo-Saxon race ; I liave never disguised ii ly sentiment.- on that point ; birt we ol' French origin are satisfied to be what we are, and we claim no more. I claim this for the race in which T was born, tliat though it is not jjevhaps endowed with the same (plasties as the Anglo-Saxon race, it is endowed with (pinlities as great ; I claim for it tliat it is endowed with (pialitie-i unsurpassed in some respect; I claim I'm- it that there is not to-day under the sun a more moral, mf)re honest or more intellectual race ; and if the honorable gentleman came to Lower-Canada, it would lie my pride to take him to one of those ancient i)arishcs on the St. Lawrence or one of its tributaries, and show liini a people to whom', prejudiced as he is, he could not but apply the words whirh the j)oet applied to those who at one time inhabited the r>asin of Minas and tlie meadows of Grandprc: — Men wliose lives glided on like livers tliat wtiter the wood' [innd Darkened by shadow.s of eaitli, but reflecting an ininge of [Ifeavon. Sir, I claim no more than what is fairly countrymen, and I say, let due to my 58(5 SPEECH im 'n THE TWO RACES STAND TOGETHER, each witli its own characteristics ;thcy will he all the more speedily united in the same aspirations towards a common object — British in allegiance and Canadian in sentiment. Hut, Sir, if you attemi)t to rend I'rum one whatever is dear and sacred to it, instead ot" having peace and harmony, you will have ever in- creasing discord. My honorable friend from North Norfolk (Mr. Charlton) the other day told u.s that it was in the interest of the French Canadians to Ijcciome a i)art of the Anglo-Saxon race; and iirocecding to relate the achicvenicnts of that great race, both in war and peace, he almost asked permission from and apolo- gised to the French Canadians for feeling ])roud of the JJritish feats of arms on the Plains of Abraham, in the Hay ol' Trafalgar, on the field uf Waterloo. Sir, my honorable friend needed not to ajiologise; his senti- ments are tjuite natural to those who liave the same blood as he has in liis veins, and they cannot lie offen- sive to anyone ; but I, who belong to the race which was defeated in those battles, claim no ])ermission to say that I lay no claim to that stoical heroism, if he- loism it be, whicli can contemjdate without a pang, even retrospectively, the defeat of one's own race, though my judgment is clear that in two, at least, of those battles — that on the Plains of Abraham and that on the field of Waterloo — the victory of England was a victory of liberty. I have, more than once in this House, told my fellow-countrymen of the province of Quebec, that the day which had severed Canada from France had not been an evil day for the descen- dants of Franco, because they had lound under the Hritish Crown GREATER I.IRERTY than they could have hoped for under the French regime, and after all liberty is the greatest boon of life. But, Sir, while I eay that, I do not disguise to 'i':. AGAINST MR. M'l'ARTIIY .S HILL 587 my fellow-countrymen of English origin, who will, T hopo. undorBtiind me, thnt even at tliis day, holding the opinions which I hold, whenever I ta':j up our liistory, as I follow the huig, the persistent, tiie im- placable duel between England and Franco for the po.^session of this continent ; as T trace, page by page, the fatal climax, dim at first, but grailually taking shape and becoming inovitalde; as i follow the brave army of Montcahu retreating before superi<u' force'', retreating, even afier victory, retreating into a circle made every day narrower and narrower; as T come to the hift page and the last struggle where that trul}' great man, (he gallant Montcalm. found death with bis first rlefnat. 1 do not disguise from my fellow-country- men of English origin tliat my heart is clenched and that my French libiod runsccdderin my veins. Talk to me not of your imrely utilitarian theories ! Men are not mere automatons ! It is not by tram])ling on the tenderest sentiment-; of the soul that you will ever accomplish your end if such an end you have in view. And yet it is in the name of British allegiance, it is with the apparent object of securing the future of this eountry, that this new policy is introduced — THIS so CALLED liUITlSH POLICY Avhich is at total variance with the policy ever followed by the Jiritish authorities on this continent. This countiy had but a few years before passed under the regime of the English Crown, when the great conflict arose lietween England and her colonies to the south, which ended in the scfiaration of those eolonies from the mother land. England at »)nce realised that, if she was to retain a footiiold upon this continent, it was necessary for her to win the afTec- tions other new subjects, since she hail lost the jille- giance of those of her own kith and kin; and that unless she made just concessions she could not hope to do so. In a just and generous spirit she made the concessions necessary to gain this object. To her r i id 688 fiPEEcn IH'W HiibjcctH hIio <,'!ivo tliciv IdWP, tlioir lanj^'Uii^io, luid their roligioii, ultliDUgh iit the tinu: that vol y it'li«ritJii Avas HuhjcftfMl ill iiiaiiy (liHahilitios in Knjj;laii<l. Does not the lioiidiahlc };eiitl(Miian \vhi> moved this Jiill know, as everyliody niiist Uiiow, that then- timely conoo3Hi()iis sav<!(l tliis e()h)ny to Eni^land ? i^oes lio not know tiiat if tlie new Huhjccts of l-'n^dand had joined tiie armies wiiicli Conj^reHS sent over to t'orco Canadians into tlie movement ol" inHnrrection. tlie result would have heen for Canada what it has been ior the reliellious colonies — total separation ? And the lionoralile jienlUnnan nu^dit have known thai, thouj^h tli(! Martinis de Lafayette and tlie Count d'Kstaing nent their emissaries to wave tlie old colors of Franeo before" the eyes of tlie old fluhjeits of France, the latter still remained true and foui^ht under the 15riti.-h llair around the walls of Quebec WITH rUK SAMK COL'IIACIO V-ii. whiih they had disphiyed against that na<2;l)Ut sixteen years before. Supixising the honorable j^entleman liad been living then and had had a voice in the council of the King, what advice would he have given? Would he have said ; Do not allow these men to talk their own language; do not give them any privileges? If he had, and if his advice had been taken, this country would not be Ikitish as it is to-day. I have tjtated, and 1 re[,":'at the statement, that the French Canadians having claimed and received from England the privileges of ]>ritish subjects, it would be the blackest ingratitude on their ])art if, to-day, they "vvere to reject the obligations wliich British citizenshii) entails; but T also say to the honorable gentlemao that it would be ungrateful, unmardy, and ungeneroii to repeal at this moment, or to attempt to take fron, the French Canadians the concessions made to them to win their affections and to secure their support in the day of England's danger. The honorable mem- ber for North Norfolk (Mr. Charlton) stated, a few AGAIKST Mn. M^CAUTHY's BILL r.so eveninfra ago, that he Imd his duuhts us to whether tlie U)yulty of French Canadians upim that occiision had hcen altoj:etlier unmixed ; he Imd Ids douhts as to whether, in.strad of Ijeing loyal, tliey did nnt <iMly look to their language, their lawn, their institutions and their ehureh. 1 do not understand the douliti of the honorahlo gentleman. I do not doulit at all. T am (|uite sure thej^o were the motives whieh imiielled my countrymen to he loyal. They liatl to ehooso hetween the action of tlie Ih-itiph Crown and that of the Philadelphia Congress. The J?ritish Crown had just granted them the Act of 1774, which secured to them everytlung they lield dear — their language, their laws and their religion — and they had to choose hetween that and the Act of the I'Liladolphia Congress, which will ALWAYS IlEMAIN A DI.OT on a nohle page of American history. The honor- able gentleman shows that in the proclamation whicii the Congress of Philadel])hia issued to the Knglish people that very concession was declared to he one of the grievances of winch the colonies had to com})lain. These were the motives that induced my countrynjen to take the stand they did. Docs the honora))lc gen- tleman find fault with them for being guided by mo- tives ? Do not men generally acton motives? As ^Ir. Lincoln said, in 1802, in the darkest jjcriod of the war : Negrots themselves will act upon motives. I would like to know what objection my honorable friend has to that. What are his views of loyalty ? i)oes loyalty consist only in kissing the snntii.g hand? Is it meritorious when submissive nnd slavish ? No; loyalty is meritorious when it i)roceeds from favors granted and from justice done. And this has been tlie invariable tradition of the race to which my hon- orable friend has the honor to belong, and of which he is justly proud. But there were before to-day men .use memory was short and whose sense of gratitude •1 ■•■{ i l\] t i 590 SPEECH was limited. Tn the first Parliament, which sat in 1791 under the Cunstitution then granted, there were men like the honorahle member for Simcoei^Mr. McCarthy) and the honorable member for North Norfolk (^ir. Charlton), who wished to have the use of the French language abolished in the legislative hall. Their at- tempts w&rc frustrated, chiefly by the efforts of one man, who upon that subject could speak with author- ity. That man was JOSEPH PAPINEAr, the illustrious father of a still more illustrious son ; and his whole life was the repudiation of the theory advanced here in the last four days. Pie was an ex- ample of the fact that a man can speak in the lan- guage of his ancestors, and still remain a true subject of tlie Crown of England. At the time when Arnold and Montgomery were invading Canada, despatches had l)een brouglit from Lord [Towe, who commanded tl>e British forces in the insurgent colonies, to Hir Guy f'arlcton. who commanded the lilnglish forces in v'a- nada. Tiie desjjatches reached ^Montreal. 8irC!uy Carleton had been forced to retreat to Quebec before Montgomery's army, and was busily preparing that city against the invaders. The despatches could not be carried further than Montreal, except at the cost of great perils and hardships ; but two young men undertook to cnrry them througli. Joseph Papineau, then a young man, twenty-iivc years of age, was one of the two who volunteered for this service. The country was in the hands of the enemy ; it was unset- tled, and there were great rivers to be crossed, with- out bridges. and it was in the fall of the year. Mr. Papi- neau and his friend tramped the whole distance. Thev reached Quebec and delivered their despatches. Then, what did they do ? They enlisted as volunteers and served in the defence of Quebec, until the enemy was repulsed from Canadian soil. Some few years after- wards, in 1791, Mr. Papineau had been elected mem- ^; i ♦ ;! &* ■ ! ,1 fml 'i-f 1 1 AGAINST Mn. m'^cakthy's bill 591 ber for Montrenl, and when the attempt was made to banisli the French language from the walls of the legislature of Quebec, Mr. Papineau could speak with some authority, and he asked : Is it simply because Canada forms part of theBritisli Em- pire that Canadians, who speak not the language in use on the banks of the Thames, are to be deprivetl of their natural rights ? Mr. Papineau'g recent serviccc, his fidelity to the cau.se in danger, were such as to convince the En- glish members of the Legislature that Ms arguments were reasonable and generous ; and I submit that HIS WORDS SHOULD FIND AN ECHO fven at this distant day, within the walls of ibis chamber. The honorable gentleman told us that, at a later date, Lord Durham, in his famous report, ad- vised the su]ipros?i()n of the French language in the legislative halls of Canada. Tt is perfectly true, and his views were incorporated to the Imperial Act of 1840, but five years had not elapsed before the Cana- dian Legislature unanimously decided, all shades of opinion united, to i)etition the Imperial Parliament to remove the obnoxious clause, and it was so remov- ed. The union of Upper and Lower Canada had just been consummated, and it was soon perceived, under the guidance of that master mind, Mr. Baldwin, that if the union was to be for the good of the whole iieo- ple, every section of tlie people bad to be ])rotected in what was held dear l>y every one of them. This Act of the Legislature has, however, been critici^^ed by my honorable fr^'end from Simcoe (Mr. McCarthy). He found nothing in it great, generoiis or statesman- like. On the contrary, he characterised it as a Aveak concession from ])olitician3 in order to capture French Votes. I would not do justice to the honorable gen- i: ]r I ( i 4 592 SPEECH tleman if I did ■what he said : not here quote his words. This is ■"■ «: .■ Tlle Parliament of 1840 did all it could to repair the in- jury of 1774 ; Init, gentlemen, it was not very long before our politicians undid it all. ]\rark the supreme contempt in those words, "our politicians!" The honorable gentleman was on ten- der ground when he spoke of '• politicians", he was at one time a politician, though he informed his au- dience that he was no longer of that class. y\v. Mills (Bothwell) : — A statesman. Mr. Laurier: — The honorable gentleman was too modest to say that, but he left it to be inferred, that THE GREAT STAT£:sMEN of the present day should endeavor to undo the great wrong inllicted on this country, from such base mo- tives, by such puny politicians as Mr. Baldwin, Mr. Lafontaine, Sir Allan MacNal) and ^Fr. Morin. The h(jnorable gentleman was proud, he said, to fortify hiw views with the views of Lord Durham and he was proud to refer to Lord Durham as a Liberal of the Liberals. It is true thatLord Durham was a Liberal, but I will show that, whil ) he was a friend of liberty, and was one of the most advanced statesmen of his day, he did not know the force of free institutions, and that, however large the range of his mind, he was not sucli a keen-sighted statesman, nor even true Liberal, as was our own Robert Baldwin. My honorable friend the other day recalled the famous word of Lord Dur- ham, wherein, in graphic language, he dejucted the stale of Lower Canada in the summer of 1838. He bad expected, he said, to find here a conflict between the Government and a people, but he had found two peoples warring in the bosom ofthe same state ; he has fouml a struggle, not of julnciples, but of races. This language is perfectly true. It cannot be doubted at :V-f 'i; AGAINST MR. M CARTHy'cJ EILL 593 this dny, thnt tlie movement which culminated in the rebellion of 1837-38 in Lower-Canada, when it assum- ed that acute form, had degenerated into a war of races. My honorable Iriend did not tell us the cause which had brouglit about that war of races, but Lord Durham told us, and my honorable friend might have quoted his language. The cause was the contest bet- ween the Legif-lative Assembly and an irresponsible Government. For almost fifty years the Legislative Assembly passed laws which were deemed essential, absolutely essential, for the welfare of the country, and c^en for the very existence of the Legislative As- sembly itself, as a body ; and as often as those laws were ])assed, so often were they trampled upon BY AN IRRESPONSIBLE GOVERNMENT. The Assembly was altogether French ; the Executive was almost entirely English, and its members were recruited by the Colonial Oilice among its creatures. As may be exjjected in any such case, the whole French pupulation took part with the Assembly, and nearly the whole of the English populdtion took part with the Executive. Very lew, probably, thought much as to who was in the right or as to who was in the wrong : but if you desire to know who was in the main right in that dispute, I cannot do better than to call in the testimony of Lord Durham himself, as it is couched in his report. And this is what he said : From the commencement, therefore, to the end of the disputes wliicli marked tlie whole ptirhjunentary history of Lower Canada, I look on the conduct of the Assembly as a constant warfare with the Executive, for the purpose of ob- taining the powers inherent in a representative body by tlie very nature of representative government. Thus you have the admission that, if there was a rebellion, it was forced ui)on the French Canadians of that day by the action of the Executive government, .t ' ! 51)4 SrEECH i ii mi H 4^1 ;-■• which had refused to gi%'e the Legislative Assembly the j)ower9 inherent tu a legislative body. Yet, in lace of that opinion. Lord Durham said that the loy- alty of the French Canadians could not be trusted, and that henceforth Jjower Canada would have to be governed 1)y an English population, and the method he suggested was the union of the two Canadas, with a provision that the English population should have in the House a large majority in memt)ers. The rea- son he gives for coming to that conclusion is given in very pithy terms. Here it is : Never again will tlie present generation of French Cana- dians yield a loyal submission to a British government. [ have already stated that Lord Durham did not knuwthe full force of free rcpresent;;tive institutions, and that our own IJaldwin was a greater statesman in I'.vdt res]icct than Lord Durham. Lord Durham had not imngined, he had not thought, that, if the French Canadians were given all their privileges, they would at once become loj'al subjects, that tliey would r.ot have to be governed by the strong hand of an P^nglish majority that division would not take place on the line of races, but on the broader lines which impel men to move onward or to cling to the past. Mr. Baldwin understood that, and he was the first to sug- gest that the French ('anadians should have their language restored, and should be treated as the equals of their fellow-citizens of English origin. That was true statesmanship and that view was unanimously adopted by the Legislature ; and I ask, in face of subsequent facts, WHO IS THE (IREATER ST.\TESMAN, Lord Durham or ]\tr.Baldwin?Lord Durham stated that the then living generation of French Canadians would never yield submission to an English CJovernment. At that very time, there was a young man who was AGAINST MU. MCCARTHY'S BILL 595 an exile from his native country, because he had been a few months before a rebel in arms, and the British government had set a price upon his head. There is no doubt that, if he had been captured, he would have met the fate of those who, on the scaffold, paid the penalty of having loved their country not wisely, but tot» well. Under the policy introduced in 1815, this young man became a member. of Parliament and leader of the Conservative party, and he died a baro- net of the realui. Sir, this took place in face of the words Jjord Durham wrote in ].S;>8, when he said that never again would that generation of French Cana- dians yield a loyal submission to the British govern- ment. Now, my honorable friend for Simcoo asks us to go back upon this policy. Are we to be told at this day, or is it to bel)clieved by any one at tliis day, that the policy introduced by Mr. Baldwin has not made Canada what it is? Is their a man living in this land, especially if he is of the Ijiberal party, who would at this day GO BACK ri'OX THE POLICV inaugurated by their leader forty years ago ? Sir, there is not a man in this country to-day who must not feel proud of the wise and statesmanlike policy which was introduced upon that occasion. I am not ignorant of, nor will I minimize, the danger which arises to Canada from the fact tbat we have here a duality of language and a duality of race. Bat the fact exists, and ostracism of any kind, instead of removing the danger, would sim[)ly intensify it, by forcing a section of our population to hate the institu- tions under which they live— intensify it, because it would bring a section of our population into conilict with the majority, winch would thus abuse the brute l)ower 'if number. It seems to me that the honora- ble gciutleman must feel that the policy he is now cliampioning is weak and inferior. Any policy which ap])eals to a class, to a creed, to a race, or which does I * 1 ii j f' 596 SPEECH not apppjil to the better instincta to be found in all classes, in all creeds, and in all races, is stamped with the stamp of inferiority. The French Canadian who appeals to his fellow-countrymen to stand by them- selves, aloof from the rest of this continent; the English Canadian who, like my honorable friend, appeals to his fellow-countrymen on grounds affecting them alone, may, perhaps, win the applause of those whom they may be addressing, but impartial history will ])ronounce their work as vicious in conception as it is mischievous and wicked in its tendency. We are here a nation, or WE WANT TO BE A NATION, n i: n Ji.il Mi S.'-i n- composed of the most heterogeneous elements — Pro- testants and Catholics, English. French, German, Irish, Scotch, every one, let it be remembered, Avith his tra- ditions, with his prejudices. In each of these conflicting antagonistic elements, however.thereisacommon spot of patriotism, and the only true policy is that which reaches that common patriotism and makes it vibrate in all, towards a common end and common aspira- tions. I may be asked : "What, then, is to be the future of Canada? The future of Canada is this : that it must be liritish. I do not share the dreams or the delusions of those few of my fellow-countrymen of Frtnch origin, who talk to us of forming a French nation on the banks of the St. Lawrence; and I would say to my honorable friend from Simcoe, if he were here, than these dreams ought not to disturb his sleep. Those who share these delusions are very few; they Ti^icrht be counted upon the fingers of one hand, and I never knew but one newspaper which ever gave them uHf ranee. Yet, while I say that this country is bound to be British, it does not follow at all that there must be but one language — the English lan- guage — to be spoken in this country. I claim that I am as loyal as the honorable gentleman to the insti- tutions of this country, and I am the son of a French u AGAINST MU. M^CAUTJIY's HILL 597 mother, and I declare that I cling to the language which T learned at her knee a3 I cling to the life which she gave nie. And upon tliis ground L a[)[jual to every man of British origin, to every man of that race in which the domestic atrections are so t^trong ; and I know that in the lieart of every one the aiHwer will be that, situated as we are, THEY WOIL;) Do AS WK Do. But the hon(u*able gentle.iian will revert to the cold, dry argument, that after ill. adualty of race will pro- duce friction and that friction will i^roduce dangor.'Hut wdiere is the remedy ? T tell the honoral)l(! gontleiuau that the remedy is not in ostracism, not in hiirsh methods nor in cruel methods. My hoiioral)le friend from North Bruce (Mr. X ;Neill)-who, like many other good men,preachp- licttc;- than he ])ractice«-gave U3 the other day the true reuicdy. The true remedy, ho said, is mutual forbearance and respect. T altogether agree with my honorable friend from North J5ruce. But he complained in his speech that the forbearance should not be all on one side. Sir, is it all on one f^ide? Wliat he complains of is a few expressions, I admit very imprudent, that have fallen from the lip^ of some men in the heat of the dehate. Well, lam pretty sure that when those expressions are sifted and explained, they readily fall away. The newspajtcrs of Ontario, during the past year, have been full of citations of the words of my honorable friend from Bellechasse (Mr. Amyot), pronounced at the St. Jean Bapliste celebration la-t year ; and when he took occasion, a few days ago, to explain those words, lie explained them so Uioroughly that my honorable friend from North Bruce immediately wanted to make him a member of tlie Imperial Federation League. If all the other ex[)ressions were so sifted, I do not despair that my honorable friend from North Bruce would try to make Mr. Mercier himself a member of the Imperial Federation League. This is what he 598 SPEECH claims liis fellnw-cuuntiymen and my fellow-coun- trymen of English origin have to bear. Well, I tell him that the French Canadians have also something to bear. What we object to is the meddlesome inter- ference of certain men in Ontario in our domestic politics ; what I object to is the whining pity bestowed by some over-zealous and over-good men in Ontario upon the poor, down-trodden, prostrate French Cana- dians. Only the other day my honorable friend from North Norfolk (Mr. Charlton) complained that the Province of Quebec was making no progress, and he instanced the fact that in that Province we still have THE TITHING SYSTEM, a, n and he said if there was in Quebec a true Liberal party, they would grapple with such an evil as that. There is in Quebec a Liberal party, not without fault, I admit, but a party which has fought as nol)le a battle as wn^ ever fought by any party in any land. But before I tell him why the Liberal party in Que- bec do not grapple witli the tithing system, let me remind him that there is in England a Liberal party of whicii any man ought to be proud, a party led to- day by one of the greatest men that England has ever l)ruduced, or that any land has ever produced — ^h\ (jladstone. Does my honorable friend also know that there is a tithing system in England just as there is a tithing system in Lower Canada — no, nt>t just the same, because the tithing system in England is far more oppressive and unjust than the system in Lower Cnnada. The tithing system in Lower Canada only affects Roman Catholics and no one else, Init in Eng- land the tithing system affects every man, whether he is a member of the Church of England or of another. xViul yet never to this day did the Liberal party grapple with that system or attempt to bring the P'nglish people to abolish that system. Why? Jjee:ni?e the grrat majority of the English people would not R'""'- ^h''\ \' AGAINST MR. MCCARTHY'S BILL 599 part with it. And for the very same reason the Liberal party has never grappled with that system here, because the people of Quebec are satisfied with it. My honorable friend has read somewhere that the people are opjjressed under the tithing system, that they are compelled to abandon their lands because the oppres- sion is such that they cannot pay the tithes. The truth is the pe<jple of Quebec to-day GIV:: DOUULE TIIK AMOI'NT to the Church voluntarily than they give by law. I declare, in the name of the Liberal party of Quel)ec, of which T am an humble member, that so longastlie conscience of Quebec is satisfied with the system never will the Liberal party attack that system. I will say this to the honorable member for North Simcoe (Mr. McCarthy), that if we could make a com- ])act between the English and the French, each to mind his own business and not meddle with the business of the other, we would get along tolerably well, not only tolerably well, but perfectly well. Yet the honorable member for North Simcoe (Mr. Mc- Carth)') perha]is may say : If you are to bring the two races together, simply by relying upon moral iniluence and persuasion, the union may he far away. There is force in the objection, because there are in Quebec, as there are in Ontario, extreme men who will not be amenable either to reason or generous con- siderations. The extreme men of Quebec talk to-day of forming a French nation on the lianks of the St, Lawrence, and the extremists of Ontario talk of driv- ing away the French with bayonets. When the very large body of the nation. comi)osed of the two races, come closer together and know each other better. I have no doubt that friction of races here will be as rare as it is in Switzerland after hundreds of years of political union. The hoiiora1)!e member for North Simcoe (Mr. McCarthy) if he were here, would say, perhaps : Is this system ever to remain ? Is there 600 srfctcii never to ])e ii diiy when we sliall have here iiotliing but the Enjjjlish huiguage? I wouhl tell my honora- ble friend that 1 (h) not troulih,' myself with sncli con- Biclerations aa to a dim and distant futnie. The only thing which troul)le3 me at this moment is, to keep peaee and harmony in liiin land, and not have peace and harmony endangered under the vain pretence of securing the future against feuds and contentions. I would have great pleasure in telling the h"n. gcnt!c- nuvn — and I am sorry he is not present— that, in my judgment, the English language is to-day and must be for several generations, [)erhap3 for i-evcral cen- turies, TUK COMMANMNG I..\N(aA(.iK w] t.] hi o( the world. 8o long as the centre of civilization was on the btisin of the .Mediterranean, three languages in sncce.iHion held sway: the Greek, the Latin and the French. At tho end of the seventeenth century the French language was undoubtedly tiie dominating language of civilization. It is still the language of di[»loniacy, the vehicle of communication lor inter- national excliange in the higher productions of the human mind, but it is no longer the language of tho many. That ])osition now belongs to the luiglish langu'ige. That revolution has been ac(;omplirt!;ed by the wonderful development of the Angh)-Saxon race during the eighteenth and in the nineteentli cen- turies. That race have carried their language with them in their emigration around the world, and now it is the language of more than 100,000,000 of people scattered over Europe, Africa, America, Asia, and the islands and continents of the Pacific Ocean. Sir, the very fact th.'it the English language is to-day the dominating language of this continent of America, makes it imperative on French Canadians, although they will retain their language, to learn and si)eak English. Nothing was more appropriate, more wise than the words that fell a few days ago from the junior member for Ottawa (Mr. Robillard). The I AGAINST MH. srCAIlTHY's HILL GOl French Caiuulinn father who to-cla,y does not give nu English education to his son does nt)t du justice to Ids child, because he coiui)el.s him to stand hack in the hard struggle for life. I would say more!. It is ini])erative for us French Canadians to learn Fnglish, hut — I have no right to give advice to any othci' man — if I were to give any advice to my Angl.--(!anadian friends, it would bo that they would do well TO I.KAUN I'UENCH TOO, The English are a ])roud race ; but the Romans wi-rc a proud race also; iind after they had con<iuerod the world, a liouian acknowledged that the education of his son was not complete unless he was as familiar with Circnk letters as he was witli Latin letters. Perhaps, however, my lu)norahle friend for North Simcoo (Mr. McCarthy) would not admit such an example for himself or the people of this country, because the oliject of my honorable friend is not sim|)l)' to r(!move the urie of the French language in the Xorth-West Territories and from every legishitive hall in Canada, hut his object is to prevent the teach- ing of French in the schools of Ontario. There are to-day, in the back townships and new concessions in Ontario, schools where a few French settlers are attempting to impart some knowledge to their chil- dren in the language of their ancestors. The eagle eye of my honorable friend has caught sight of that fact. The eye of tlie eagle can withstand the sun. hut the eye of my honoral)lc friend cannot withstand that little light. lie spoke a few days ago in this city, the Capital of Canada, at a meeting which adopted the following resolution : — .\nd this mocting avails itsolt of this opportunity of ex- pressing thoojiinion tliat in our own province tho uso ol' tho Frencli laniiunge as tlio languii'jrn of instruction in tho jjuMic schools sliouM be abolished and for ever |)rohil)iteil, au'l that no undecided measure ibr obtaining this end will be satisfac- toi'y to the people of Ontario. 602 SPEECH The liouorablo jfontlomaii spi)ko to tliat resolu- tion iiiul eiulorsod every word ot' it. This i^ what le Haul ; — l:.i h ■■ At tho s!uu<> lime, as (I oiti/.oii ol' Ontaiio — of tlni Domi- nion, I heartily (•Milors(! the soiitiiuent wliicli tlid luoftiiii.' lias ^.'ivi'ii iittfriuicc to — tliat wo oiiijlit, ainl oiinlit utoiiiujiuul for all tiiii'', to |mt an cml to tlio toarli'm^ of oiir uliiMifii, citln'r Ki'dicii ('ana iiaii or HiiLrliHli, in any otlmr laiiLjua;,'!) than tlio liin;,'iia;^t; of tin- country in whioli wo livo. T=? tliis really the nioa'^urc of my honorahlo fricMid? Wo nlway.-) Iciiow him to Ijo a re.^trictiouist. but not to tliat extent, I am sure; we alw;iy,i l<new liim to 1)6 a restrictionist in trade, Init he is A HESTUICTIONIST EVKN TN KNOWr.EDCE. Tf tlio honoraljle {gentleman, on tliat occasion, liad said that tlie i)eopl(' of Ontarii) would insi^t that Ka- glisli should he taui^lit in ail their sclio )l.s, I would raise hoth my hands in favor of it. But tliat is not enou;j,'h ; not only must iMiglish be tau.i2;ht, hut lie ol»- jects to any other language Ixiing taught '"n Oatario schools. Can it be that an honorahlo gentleman pos- sessing the attainment, power and ahility of my ho- norable friend should stoop to things so low? It is a thing low, and vile, and contemptible, to say that the poop e of Ontario, wh:itever be their creed or their origin, sha 1 not have the right to teach a second lan- guage to their children if they choose, Men are not usuall}' wantonly cruel ; men do not, as a rule, pur- po-iely degrade their lives, and what is the reason, [ want to know, which impels my honorable friend to use such language as that? Sir. the reason is, that Tories of the stami) ot my honorable friend never can bring themselves up to the i)oint of trusting the better instincts of the human heart ; they never can divest themselves of the base notion that, if they treat their op'punents with generosity or with justice, their op- ponents will abuse the privilege. They can never ilivest AflAINST MU. MfCAIlTIlY's HI LI, 603 themselves oftlio base notion tliut, iftlio French Ciiim- dump are to he uUoweil their huiguago an<l their cha- radtorintios as a race, they will turn traitors us a race. They want to make this country llritifh in tlio .-ianie manner they have tried TO MAKi: lUKI.ANO imiTISII. For the I;iHt seven hundred year.s. JJij^dish atatesinea have atteiiiptiMl to make Irelaiid Uritish, not by jus- tico. not 1)\' ti;eiierosity. not by a|i|)ealin;j; to the better instincts of the <i;enerous hearts ol'tluit people, ))Ut by every form of violen(!e and cruelty. Tliey have pros- cribed iier religion, they have killed her agriculture, they have diistroyed her comnierco, they hav(! done everytlnng to (h^grade the land and the poo])le. And witb what result? With ti»o result of making Ireland a thorn in the .side of Fnghmd, with the result of lill- ing the heart of the peo])le of Ireland with bitterness against England. Sir, S\r. (Iladsione has done tnore in fivr years to make Ireland Uritish than English stntesmen have done for seven hundred years before. Will I show you the different results winch can he wrought upon the feelings of a sensitive i»eople by generous treatnimit? Ijet me <|Uote a si)eech (hilivered by .Mr. John Dillon, M. 1'. for Tipperary, last year. The occasion was a doraitustration in favor of Mr. Dillon on his being released froni jail, where lui had served a term under the odious Coercion law. Now, I cite the speech because it may be a lesson to the ho- norable mend)er for North Simcoc (.Mr. Mc^Carthy) and those who agree with him in this House. >lr. Dillon said : — But it is iiniiossibln for luo to he hlitiil to tlic Hut-' tli;it !ii(^ t'oreoil iiiioii my notice ns roL'iird t}i(> iniglit,\' cliani.'!- whicli liave cf)iii(> over the minds ot tlio masses of the people ol' Kn^'linid, tint] romemI)erinjL» tiiis, I tliink it is not wise to be imi'aticnt, because the liberty oi' Ireland is not to be accom- l-ili lied in h day. 1 can see no cause for impatience, but causa ru'li'M' for liope and even e.xultation. Coming now, as I "do, I mi SPEECII ■-* 1 j''. f Wi ill Iroin wliat was moaiit U; he a degra'latioH and an insult to nio, antl as 1 liopo an lionorahle man, I can unil in my heart not tho slii. htest trace of hittei'iioss against tiie peoi>le ot'Knu'lanch I r(^cnli !ct tho day wIkmi tho power and when the name of EiiL'Iishinen were Jiatei'iil to my licart. It may he tiiat L have hecn demoralized hy the countless acts of kinihu;ss I have recciv'Ml at the hands of Hnglisilinuui ; hut tlie Iceliiighas now changed, and 1 cannot tiiul ii in my heart to regret that it is ia.it passing a\' Ay. Tlioso hist wordiS, I am sure, will fill with tuiiiourided joy tlie iViend.s of Ifchind and the friends of Enjiland ns wol lUit wrni WHAT TlCUIUnLE MKANI.N'G arc not these words i-iefaced I It is known tii'L .Mr. Dillon is a man of noble and unstained elmracter. No harsh words would he expected to cross the lips (d'suoh i rnan, yet he tells us there was a time wlien the very name of Eughand was liateful to him. IIow terrible tlieso words are! They tire tlie ex[)ression of the bitterness accumulated throu;j;h centuries and centuries of jjcrsecutions in succeeding generation-^ of Irish men iiut, Sir, nniric the change. Less than live year:- of a generous attempt hy a great party to do justice to Irehuid. to give lier tlie liberty and justice to which she is entitled, has worlcod wonders and champed the disposition of the Irish people. These five years cf goaerous attem[)ts to do justice lo Ireland have eraseil the sentiment of bitterness and replaced it by sentiments of affection to tho land whose very name was liateful to Ireland only a few years ago. What a Iriumph this is for the cause of Ireland ! What a triumph this is for those who, in this TLiuse, told tlie English people that if tuey were to treat the Irish people generously, ti.ey would have the same lesultin Ireland as in this country ! What an evidence r-dso tl)is is that tlie ordy manner, alter all, in which you can attach a people to their allegiance is to treat them with fairness and generosity ; and what arehui^e AGAINST MR. M*^CARTHy's BILL 605 it is to all those (my honorable iViond from Xortli Simcoe included) who believe that the only manner in which to make a people loyal i.'^ to trample under foot everything which tliey hold dear and sacred. Sir, I have just pronounced THE NAME OF HOME RULE. Home Rule with us is local autonomy, and T hope that this principle of local autonomy will some day afford us some solutiou of the dilUculty we have now to deal with. What is ul^jectionable in this JMIl is not, as has been often stated, the object of the Bill itself, (which is. after all, with some exceptions, a local (lueslion), but tlie tendency of tlie Bill and the prin- cij'les which underlie it, for we know that this is only a preliminary step that is to be followed by many others. We are, to-day, in the fourth day of tliis debate, and I have to make the reproach that the Government have not yet told us what their })olicy is on the question. The Government, of late, do not discharge the duty they owe to this House. They can advise us on matters of details and matters uf procedure, but when it comes to a question of prin- ciple they refuse to discharge the duties for wl)ich they are responsible to the House. We had a speech the other day from the honorable the Minister of Public Works. He simply told us he was a^fainst the Bill, but he affirmed no princii)le which we might apply to the situation. We have three propositions before us : the Bill itself, the amcndint nt of my honorable friend from Assiniboia (Mr. Davin) and the amendment of my honorable friend from Bertbier l^Mr. Beausoleil). I am free to speak of them, but in \vhut I say I declare that I express my own personal opinion. T do not speak iiere as the leader of a ()arty — I express my own opinior., and nothing more. As to the amendment of tae hoiioralilf member for Assi- niboia (.Mr. Davin), I nave to say that, in my o[)inion, it^ is premature. It is endeavoring to give to the — ^. GOG SPEECH people of the Territories upon one question, plenary power, while they iire btill IN A KOUM OF Tl'TELAGE. We are not ])repared to give to the {)eople of the North-West full local autonomy. We cannot expect that a population which in I.S80 nuniljcred only some- thing like oU,OUU souls — the population ot a small town, scattered over immense territories, out of which several empires can he carved — can he entrusted with the full power of responsildogoveniment. Tlieamend- inent of my honorahle friend from I'erthier (.\Ir. Beausoleil) is, perha))S, more consistent with our true |)osition. The amendment aflirms liie i>roposition that the present state of'things ought tu l)e permanent. A\'ith this, however, I cannot agree, and altliougli I atu prepared to vote for the amendment of my honor- able I'riend from nerthier. I cannot do so without tak- ing exception to his statements. It is imiiossiljle to admit, for instance, that the institutions of the Xorth- West are permanent. On the contrary, tliey are ex- ceptionally te.uporary: they deal with a stale of things which is exceptional in itself : they were de- vised at a time wiien there was no population, and they must be modified from time to time as the lu-cct- sities of the case re(iuire. lUit at this momeni to -;iy they are i)ermanent, is a thing in which L cannot agree, except so far as they must be permnnent in every particular, sn long as we are not ready to give these peo[)le a more extended form of local authority. My honorabie friend also says in this amendment, that since we passed this law and gave this incipient constitution to the North-West territories, nothing has occured to change our views, I cannot agree with that. Everything has occured since that time, not to change our views, but to set us thinking about wliat we should do at a future time, not very far off, in re- gard to those Territories. What has occured is this: a population has gone into those Territories; th^y AGAINST UU. MCCARTHY S BII.I. 607 have been given a Legislature, and that Legishiture has demanded certain measures -not only on the (|ue3tion of language, but on that of the schools, and on the system of Cioverument. Bearing these facta in mind, it seems to me that the proper time to deal with this question will be when we are prepared to give the Territories, perhaps not absolute, but a more extended form of LOCAT, SELF-GOVERNMEN ;■ . and when that time comes, we must be prepared tt) deal with this (piestion upt)U the broad principle of this constitution, which has been devised for tlie safety of the majority and the jirotection oftheniino- rity, "and in the light of the condition of things which may exist at that time in the Territories. J>ut till tlien I believe it is better to deter the consideration of tills question. Ther'? is this lemarkablo feature in the iiill we h.ave before a?< : it is not founded on an ex- pression (. the will of the i)ei)])le of the Territories; it is founded simply on alleged j)rinciplos ii])plicable to the whole l)ominion. This is what I obiect to in this liill. and — tliough it is my own individual opini ion on ly — I sulimit to ail 'parties in this House, French or Eiigli'^h, Jjiberals or (Conservatives, that the best thing for us to do is to defer the consideration of this (luestion to a future time when we shall lie prepsired to deal with all the ([uestions now affeeting tlie Nortii- ^\'est Territories. Tn the menntitue. liowev er, we (Uight to vemember this — French. l-]nglisli. Lil)erals, Conservatives — that no race in this country has ul.iso- tute rights, only the rights which do not invade the rights of any otlier race. We ought to remember tliat tlie expression (.>f race feelings and rac(> sentiments should be well restrained to a point, beyond which, if l)ressed. though still kept within legitMuate limits, they might hurt the fe(;lings anri sentiments of nlher races. Ihit when the time comes for dealing '.vith this (question, T hope we shall all be 'prepared, without party difTcreuccs, to deal with it I ■'?),'" ''>lp™»^' 008 SPEECH AGAINST MR. MCCARTHY'S BILL \ ON THE nnOAD PRINCIPLES that apply to this Constitution ; that we shall not, French or English, hesitate to apply true principles under the fear that evil consequences may flow from tliera, because we must remember that true i)rinci- plos are only an emanation of Divine truth, and that there is above us an eternal Providence whose infi- nite wisdom knows better than man what is best for man. and who, even Avhen all seems lost, still guides everything for the greatest good. I^ii s V- if' • ■ TRIOMPH OF PROVINCIAL RIGHTS CEL/:BIiATJON OF THE PROVINCIAL VICTORIES OF 1890 SPEECH AT THE CI.UB NATIONAL HANi^'ET, MONTUKAL. ON THE 2nd JULY, 1890 Tlie vindication of Piovinciul liiihts, oniphasizr-d by the sweeping Liberal victories at the geiuTiil elections ot IS'.IL) in the torn' principal provinces ot Conf'edevatio!) — in NcwBrinis- wick on tiie :^Oih January, in Nova Scotia on tliu lil.st May, in Ontario on the ^th .lune, and, last but not least, in Quebec on the I7th June, the Mercier National Govemment in the last named province Vjeing retuined to power by the over- whelming vote of the people — was fittingly connnemorated by a great banquet given V)y the Club National at Montreal on the 2nd July, to which the victorious Premiers of the diiferent jirovinces and the principal members of the party, both Fe- deral aim P'ovincial, were invited. 'I'he festivity was a remar- kable success and among the prominent speakers on the oc- casion was the leader of the Federal Opposition, I fonorable Wilfrid La jrier,who re'-'ied to the toast of *' Cana<la" and to whose utterance /'AY. ,/t'«r of Quebec referred in the follow- ing strain in its issue of the .Jth July : "The address nf the leader of the Feileral Opposition will be read with the same enthusiasm with which it was greeted by the guests at the iiant^uet. It will be especially read with profit and advantage by all the citizens of this coun- try, no matter to what party, race or creed they may belong. How many prejudices, false impressions and misunderstand- ings will be dissipated by this noble language ! " It IS well that Mr. Laurier's voice should thus be raised from time to time in this country,as his words are like a power- ful wind which drives liefore it the clouds that fanaticism ac- cumulates over our heads. His elo(pience is eminiMitly pa- cificatory,, and we trust to have another calm of a few weeks after his last ileclarations. •' In what magnificent lauL'uage he lays down the great ))rinciples of justice and equality which animate his party I IIow his high-minded way of presenting things towers above the clamors and yells of fanaticism ! What is chieHy to be ailmired in the Liberal leader is th, unity, the stability, the unswerving rectitude of his ideas, the mark of profound con- 31) .^igjgjgg^^^sf*^^- V , ,/ CIO SPEECH victions. As remarkod liy a coniiuciitator on his speeches in ii volume recently ])ulili.sheil, "his elomience is an endless va- riation on a single tlicmo ": liis work is ,'t system, as his ine- tliod is asyiitliesis ; all his s[)eei'iies hang togetlior ; tiioy are like the chapters of a same hook or tiie poriotls ol' a deinon- fetration. " ( )tir liopo is that tliis last adch'ess may be translated into Engli>h and read in all the provinces. This is all we a-^k in the interest oF general li.irmony." (Traiislalion) Hi): . Mr. President AM) Gentlemen, In tlie first place, I must congratulate the Club National on the hap])y in3i)iration which su[>'<rcsted the placing of this demonstration under the {)atronage of the Prime Ministers of the four ])rovince3, which were the original parties to and still hold the fore- most rank in Confederation. It sliouhl he congratu- lated, I say, because tlie idea was really an inspira- tion. It happens — and the fact is one of good omen lur our country — that tlie Uovernmenls of tliose four provinces are at tliis moment in the liands of men, who. apart from simie shades of o[)inion, l>elong to tlie same political way of thinking, who, in the course of the y(>ar, appealed tc the electorate of their res- pective provinces, and v/ho came out of the struggle stronger than they went into it, thus showing that the o[)inion3, of whicli tiu'y are the champions, nre now more generally spr(\id, more dee)dy anchored in the hearts of the popuhitions whicli they represent than at any time in their ])ast history. Centlemen, the names which we sec emblazoned here — Mowat, Mercier, IMair and Fielding, — iiames which you greet with enthusiasm every time they are meidioocd — remind us that there is a community between the ])r()vince3 of Confederation, that tliere is a community of sentiment between the races inhabit- ing them, and that, if there are amongst us differences of origin and divergencies of opinion, the boundaries AT THE CI.L'D NATIONAL fill of our country are. after all, not confined to the boun- daries of uur province?. The soil of our country is co-extensive with the soil of Canada and, if we are separated on many points, still we form only one nation. We have the pleasure of seeing to-day at this table the one who appealed last to the electorate of his province, our friend, Mr. Mercicr, and we can ten- der our congratulations to him jjorsonall}'. We do not enjoy the name !)riviloge as regards Messrs. Mowat, Fielding and l>lair. as they were unable to give us the honor of their i)repence. Jiut, gentlenien, I use no metaphor when I say that, if they are not with us, their principles and ideas are with us and fill this hall. I use no metaphor in saying this, for. I aiipeal to you, if we do not cherish in our hearts the [irinciples which they defend. Those jirinciples constitute the a])anage, the pa- trimony, so to saj', of all who, under any name, form part of the Lilieral Opposition in the Ilouse of Com- mons. I would certainly have been delighted to review, with them, the history of the four victories obtained inlhefour provinces to which I have junt referred. This, however, would carry me too far. But I can- not resist the temi)tation to mention one, but not our own, as wf are at home. <ien ti( men, I api)eal to you all if it is not true that, on the night of the oth June last, when the tele- graph was bringing us the news oftlie battle which had lieen louglil in the [irovince of Ontario. wlu-n each despatch ioiiuunced a fresh victory, the joy and the enthusiasm ol' the Liberals of that jirovincc could not have exceeded thejoy and entliusia-mi of the Lilierals of the ])rovince of Quebec. Yes, gentlemen, ^Ir. Mowat's victory in Ontario was not only the trium))!! of the Libernl cause in On- tario, but 'he triuniidi of the FJIht!!! cause in liie e/i/fVf Dooiiniuu of Canada. It was the triuni])b of G12 S?PEECII if- the only ijriiiciplca on which C'onfcdpration can safe- ly rest. It was alike the triumi)h of the autonomy uflhe ))rovinces and of the unity of Canaila. Once more, then, let us congratulata tlie oflicers <ifthe Clul) National on the happy in3})iration which has furnished another opportunity to alfirm that our ])arty recojinizes Canada in its entirety as our country ! This is the best way to refute the slander which is be- m^ constantly reiterated by the jtress of another province. It is needless to say that this aihrmation would be uncalled for, if we were treated with the simplest iustice by our adversaries ; but, under existing cir- cumstances, far from being useless, it is exceedingly well-timed, for. at the present hour, a powerful orga- jiization, which even ^Ir. Mowat has had to contend against, asserts that the French Canadians are the en - emies of the constitution, that they want to isolate themselves and have nothing to do with the other races. By inviting Messrs. Mowat, Blair and Fielding,a3 you have done, you refute this slander ; you show that their provinces are our country as our province is theirs, and that their fellow-countrymen are our fellow-countrymen. You affirm further that, if they have their aspirations and their traditions, as we have ours, we have together the same idea, that is to say, the moral, intellectual advancement of cur common country, Canada. Nevertheless, to-morrow — not later than to-mor- row — the Conservative or rather the Tory press, seiz- ing for the hundredth time, jierhaiJS, on some isolated ■wuids uttered by men without autliority, will repeat and repeat that the French Canadians want to isolate themsolvc.-.to break up Confederation, and to erect upon its ruins a number of insignificant little principa- lities, each living separately like so many oysters within their shells. You have disposed of this calumny, but it will be repeated in spite of the most authoritative denials. It will be repeated in spite of the denials of those who ri^ AT THE CH 15 NATIOXAI. 618 have the ritrht to speak, ])ecau3e, ut the pre-ent time, these rthiinU'V.-! constitute the poisoned \veii[)on witii whiclitiic Tiiry pint y. ill luintlu'i' provhicc. hope to injure tlie Lihorul i>ai'ty. These slanders have hoen repeated by all theT(. ry politicians, hii;-and liltle-lVoiu the top to "the Itottoni of the huhlcr. They liave been reiK'ated against Mi'. .Mo\v;it in the conte-t through •wliicl) he has just i^DUe in Ontario, and they will bo rei)eated against us at the first opportunity. ^'ou have pmicsted nuvunst tliese f landers And I myself have been oblii:i' I on aiinther occasion ;ind under other circumstani us to pvntcst aj^'ainsl tlnin. Not later Ihnn Inst sessinii. on the llonr of the lliniso of Commons, I reminch'd those who did me the honor of listening to me that. in all the struggles of our ances- tors against tlie government of the mother country, they never asked for nure than one thing, for more than one jirivilege : that of being treated as English gubjects. I stated thnt. if our ancestors deinamh'd ihi'* pri- vilege, it was i'or their descendants to accept its duties. I recalled thnt there never had been bat one pa- per amongst us winch had called for tlie erection of a French repul)lic on the banks of the St.Lnwrence. and I might add to-day thnl. during the last elections, tlnit i)ai)er did noisup()ort ]\Ir. Mercier. When T say that I am not one of those who wish for the separation of the Confederation and '"'ivor th." creation of little princip.ilities in our midst, T do not mean to say that we should always remain a colony. On the contrary, the day is coming when this coun- try will have to take its place among the nation- of the earth. T,,,J'>ut T do not want to see my country's independence^ attained through the hostility of one race to the others. T do not wnnt my country's independence to be conceived in the blood of civil war. T want my country's independence to he reached through the normal and regular progress of all the elements of its })opulatioii towards the realization of a common aspi- ration . i J. 614 .SPEECH fii Wp. of Fronoh orifjin, liiTve tho sontinipnt of our own iiulividuiiUty. Wo want to hand ilown i^ our children tlielanguafre wo received iVoni our lorclathers. l>ut, while ehcnshini,' this I'eelin;; in our hearts, we do not iulniit that it is inconi[tatihlo with our title of Caijadians. We are citizens of Canada and intend to fulfd all the duties wlii(;li tiiat title involves. ]>ut. at the same time, the monieat we invite to our table men of another race like Mr. Mowat, Mr. Fielding and Mr. ]>lair, we ailirm tliat we acknow- ledge them as (Uir fellow-countr3'nien as the_y ac- knowledge that we arc theirs. Their country is our country. Their jjolitical views are our political views. What they want, we want. What they want and what we want is that the rights of tlie minorities should be re3i)ected, tluit the constitutional guarantees be safeguarded, the ])rovinccs sovereign in tlieir author- ity, and Canada united in its diversity. 8ucli, from my point of view, gentlemen, are the only theories on which the existence of the Canadian Coufetteration can be maintained. Unfortunately, these theories liavo been forgotten. Forgotten ! They liavo been wilfully and systematically violated by the Ottawa (Jovernmcnt, anil a (londition of things has resulted, which is not without danger. It is not my habit, wlien the occasion arises, t shut my eyes to an actual danger. See what is happening all around us ; remark the attitude of a certain portion of the pres.s, and I think ■we r-hall be compelled to admit to ourselves that the present situation is not without room for alarm, con- sidering the unea&y feeling, the constraint, the distrust existing between the British elements and the French race. The cause of this misfortune is to be found in the first place in the tendency of the Ottawa Government to encroach ui)on the rights of the provinces. In all the phases of its existence, the Lilieral party has protested against this fatal tendency and IMAGE EVALUATION TEST TARGET (MT-3) k // ^/ < WJ>. <? A % i/.x % ^ 1.0 I.I '- III 21 112.5 ilM |||||22 2.0 1.8 1 1.25 1.4 1.6 ^ 6" ► ^ <^ /a ^3 >■ 7 /A 'F '/ Photographic Sciences Corporation 33 WEST MAIN STREET WEBSTER, N.Y. 14580 (716) 872-4503 6^ 616 SPEECH especially by the agitation which followed the rebel- lion in the North Webt and the execution of Louia Kiel. When I allude to those unhappy days, fortuna- tely now passed away, it is not with any desire to re-open wounds which are hardly yet healed, but I owe it to the cause of truth to reestablish the facts, I owe it to the cause of truth to gay that the charges made against us on this head by the Tory press of Ontario are groundless, and that, if we took the attitude we did on the Riel question, it was not from any race feeling, as is asserted, butsimj^ly because in our opinion the Government had no right to punisli a crime Avhich it had itself provoked. And if the Ilalf-breeds revolted, it was not Kiel's fault, but the fault of Sir John Macdonald's Govern- ment which, for year.-;, had refused to listen to their legitimate complaints and which hastened to listen to them when they were formulated by the complain- ants with arms in their hands. Nevertheless, in spite of all this, the Tory press asserts — and a man of the eminence of Mr. McCartliy has also dared to assert — that, in that agitation, the French Canadians were actuated by an unworthy sentiment, that, if tliey demanded Louis Kiel's pardon, it was not because they believed him to be innocent, but simply because he belonged to their race, and that, every time one of their race committed a ciime entailing the death penalty, they would endeavor to prevent the law from taking its course. I consider it a task unworthy of ourselves to re- fute such charges. On the contrary, I assert that the agitation, which took place, had its origin and basis in the instinct of real Liberal principles. It may be said, perhaps : If the agitation was founded on Liberal princi])les only, why did it not extend to the other provinces ? The resieon is very simple. There is an English jjroverb which says : " lUood is thicker than water." On that occa- sion, it was the voice of blood which spoke and which AT THE CLUB NATIONAL 617 breathed life, sentiment, and emotion into the cold abstraction of a principle. All men resent injustice, but the feeling becomes more intense when that injustice comes home to us. It was because we felt ourselves assailed that so much warmth was thrown into that agitation. These are some of the charges made against up. A war of race is being waged upon us on the pretext that we ourselves are waging a race war. We are also attacked by our adversaries in the name of Liberal ])rinciples. Tt is astonishing how Liberal our adver- fcaries have grown within a few years. In the prov- ince of Ontario, the principal charge which Mr. .Mowat had to fight was the charge of not being Liberal enough, and, if you will run your eye through the Conservative press of Ontario, you will find that all t^ J attacks directed against Mr. Mowat and liis friends are on the ground that they are only Lil:)erals in name and that in reality they are under the tutelage and domination of the ecclesiastical hierarchy. These attacks are not merely intended for the Li- berals of Ontario, but for the Liberals of the whole country. I have but one remark to make on this head and I speak at this moment in the name of my autho- rity as leader of the Liberal party in the Dominion of Canada — the Liberal party will not yield any more to the clamors of extreme Protestants than it has here- tofore yielded to the clamors of extreme Catholics. Gentleman, I do not desire to reproach anyone, as I respect all convictions, but you will remember that only a few years ago and, during many long years, we had in this province what I might term a religious war. Even our name of Liberals was made a reproach to us by ultra-Catholics. During long years, Liberalism was represented as a heresy. Du- ring long years, we had to struggle to maintain the freedom of the electorate and to secure the elector's right to vote without intimidation and without undue influence. 618 SPEECH AT THE CLUB NATIONAL recede in tow of the it will belong to its We carried on that struggle both on the civil and on the religious ground, and won a victory on both. And now, in the province of Ontario, we have to sus- tain a fight of an altogether opposite character. In that province, our assailants are the extreme Protes- tants. The extreme Catholics blamed us fur being too Liberal and the extreuie Protestants now blame us fur not being Liberal enough, their chief objection to us being that we will not destroy established insti- tutions and that we want the convictions uf minorities to be protected. I repeat that the Liberal party will no more yield to the clamors of the one than to the clamors of the other and is not prepared to revive here the old quarrels an,^ disputes of Europe. The Liberal party will not Liberals uf continental Europe ; time and its country. The Liberal principles, as we understand and defend them, do not apply only to one province, one cla-ts, one race or one belief, but to all the provinces, all classes, all races and all beliefs. Oentlemen, I once more propose the toast of " Canada. " Let us resolve that never shall we introduce into this country the disputes and quarrels which have drenched Europe in blood ; that in this country order and freedom shall forever reign ; that all the races shall dwell together in harmony and peace ; and that the rights of the strong shall weigh no more in the balance with us than the rights of the weak ! From this moment, let us also resolve to organize so that, on the day which is not now far off and of which I already see the dawning, the cause which has just triumphed in Quebec, Ontario, New Bruns- wick and Nova Scotia, may also triumph throughout the Dominion from the Atlantic to the Pacific. THE END. CONSULTING INDEX Conservative Party : Hostile to responsible government 83 Policy based on venality 144, oG3, 421 Tory Ix»yalty 270, 373 Tories and Ultramontanes 554 Tory double game 495, 538, 575, 617 Disallowance : The American system 309 The Manitoba incident, 3(i4, 370 The Imperial Government and the right of voto, 372 How it is abused 307 The streams' bill 499 Dual Representation : Incompatible with the freedom of the elector.. Incompatible with the federative principle 13 15 Duality of Languages : Must the French language disappear? 3('9, 541 Prepon<lerance of the English language 191, GOO Insults and threats of Mr. McCarthy 572, 577, 583 French in the NorthWeat 000 The French in Ontario 496, 001 Electoral Franchise : Freedom of the suffrage 7 A fixed idea ofSir .John's 193 Matter within the jurisdiction of the LiOcal powers I9.'),20l The franchise in the United States, our model on this head..... 203 Women suffrage 207 TJsurjjation of popular rights 2()8 A measure uncalled for 194, 20 Diversity of Franchise \'J'<, 2(J2, 205 620 CONSULTING INDEX Fisheries, affair of the : Vexatious iiroceedings towards American fisher t 464 men \ 40O The iiKidiixvirciKli 470, 4'.'(), 500 Projiosals at the Washington Conlerence 410, iX-> Home Rile 339, 605 Imperial Federation •')02 Je.siit's Estates : Confiscation of these estates Intervention of the Pope Charges made against tlio Jesuits Expulsion ol' tiie Jesuits Settiem'^ut trie 1 by Mr. Mercior's Conservative predecessors OOG, Settlement ajpproved hy the Protestants of Quebec Jesuits as pioneers in this country E(iual Rights Association Letellier Affair : Federal JurisiUction disputed LetelHer calumniated by liis ex-advisers Letellier protected by Ministerial respcmsibility.... A high authority His act covered by popular sanction 504 .-)45 516 5 IS 544 5()S 517 547 8!i 9^ 101 104 10"» Lll?ERALISM : Is it a new form of evil ? 54 Distinction between the Conservative idea and the Liberal idea 56 Superiority of the Liberal principles 61 History of the Liberal party in this country 67 English and Continental Liberalism 67, 73, 536, 54'J The priest's political rights 75 Where the right of interference in politics ends 76 CONSULTING INDEX 621 Liberal Party : Its programme 78 Nothing revolutionary in it 82 The youth and the Liberal party 143 Equal justice, equal riglits 528 Alliance with the National Conservatives 554, 615 English Liberals our models 63, 67, 82, 521, 552 Reform struggles 443 Liberty : Conciliation of the rights of the people and the rights of society 11 Definition of true liberty 73 The struggles of liberty 275,307 False conception of liberty 548 Liberty of opinions 553 Freedom the best way to govern men 343 Justifiable rebellions 275, 312, 338, 346 North -West Rebellion : Events of 1869-70 221 The Mackenzie Government and the Half-Breeds 213, 226, 240, 321 The claims of the Half-Breeds 214,224, 244, 268 Laws recognizing these claims 228, 261 Mgr. Tache's plan 230 Fruitless petitions of the North-West ) 233, 237, 242, 246, Council, officials and settlers ) 264, 271, 328 The surveys by square or longitudinal sections 238 Sir John's policy relative to the surveys 243 "Too Late " 266 Sir John's conduct towards the Half-Breeds 232, 235, 247, 260, 323 Death of Thomas Scott 290,2',»4 Mr. Chapleauand the Half-Breeds 247 Suppressed documents 220, 316 Gabriel Dumont 248, 326 Broken promises 316,330 622 CONSULTING INDEX " Justice the same everywhere," 212 The white settlers' reBponsibility, 259 Tlie IIulf-Breeds' nuineroua petitions ami > 203, 314 deputations ) 324, 331 Half-Breeds dispossessed... 319, 332 Justifiable rebellions 4S8 Mercy should have been the rule 58o Pacific Railway: Conservative and Liberal policy |23 Three changes of policy in three years 125 Complete surrender to the Syndicate 127, 129 Monopoly of the Pacific 1,30, 134, 371 A fief of twenty-five millions of acres 131 Tyrannized settlers 13^ Line north of Lake Superior 130 Personal uemauks: Baldwin (Hon. Kobt.) 591 Belleai' (Sir N.-K) ]s(j Blake (Hon. Edward) 141, 185, 18S, 190,530, 534 Brown (Hon. George) sjg Caitier (Sir G.-E.) ]5-, Cartwriglit (.Sir Richard) ig(j Dorion (Sir A.-A.) 19,-, Durham (Lord) 346, 425 Holton (Hon. L.-H.) m Joly (Hon. H.-G.) ."". 514 Lafontaine (Sir L.-H.) (jg Macdonald (Sir .John) 188 530 Mackenzie (Hon. A.) igg Mercier (Hon.-H.) 374, ,j(j7 Papineau (Joseph) 591J Papineau (L. J.) 21,s, 351 Tupper (Sir Charles) igy Wiman (Erastus) 4S2 CONSULTING INDEX G23 Province of Quebec : Loyalty of the French Canadians \ ^JJ- ^ 278, m, 349 Their only rovengo 118 Did tney ask panlon for Kiel simply because he was French ? 2S4, 579, OKI Canadian above all 305, 311, 359, 442, 5l'S Are the Protestant minority ill-treated? 513 French Canadians and Tory party, 3(H> Union on party lines only 50, 60, 72, 256, 596 Tithes 598 Lord Durham's report 591 The French Canadian Republic 53^, 569, 613 Provincial Autonomy : Kespective independence of the Local and Federal Legislature 15, 204, 364, 543, 557, 661 Contradictions of the Conservatives on this question iU6 Northern boundaries of Ontario and Quebec 147 Superiority of the federative system 166 Licenses 159 Attempts at Legislative I'nion 105, 365 Provinces Sovereign in thtir sphere, Dominion united in its diversity 2, 198, 200 Anomalies in the Constitution J ',(7 Monopoly and Manitoba 559 Separation of legislative pov^-ers 301 Distribution of subsidies t-o the Provinces 374 Provincial victories of 1S90 610 AVhat they signify 612 The only way to maintain Confederation 614 RACE AND RELIGION- 22U, 300, o-jS Reciprocity : Article of the Liberal programme 377, 407, 503, 56S Theold Kuciprocity 'I'reiity 377, 452 The statutory oiler of 1S79 380, 401,4)3, 4:7 Why the first treaty \vas not ren(wcd3>2, 3,'<4. 4()1, 151^474 624 CONSULTING INDEX Commercial union witli (rreat Riittiln...3Sr), 4;{2, 4.')9, rjfiS Our history from the economic stanflpoint 398 Obstacles to interprovincial trade 405 Keciprocity favored by the United States 413, 45') Unlimited Reciprocity t?s Limited Reciprocity.... 413, 417 The manuthcturing interests 418, 450 How the loss of revenue should bo supplied 42(J The disloyalty cry 390, 422, 434, 458, 564 Commercial independence , 424 The anneriation movement of 1849 427 Sir John formerly for Reciprocity 453 The scourge of emigration, 376,395, 440, 449 Modern industry wants large markets 409 Responsible Government 347, 426 Kiel : His expulsion from Parliament 22 His amnesty 31,37, 274 His mental condition 282 Riel and Jackson ;. 288 Sir Adolphe Caron and Riel 274, 286 Mr. ChaplottU and Riel 292 General Middleton and Riel 296 Riel and the Half-Breeds 235, 245, 330 A judicial murder 253, 258 Sir Alex. Campbells' memorandum ..280, 3(X> Tariff: Variations of Sir John's party 42 True meaning of the " National Policy " 46 Retaliation policy 47, 379,464, 472, 480 Excessive protection 43 The tariff and the Maritime Provinces 362 478 Inanity of the N. P 375, 41]^ 473 The N. P. and British connection 277 The " Hies on the wheel '' 451 U> ,3S,'), 4;{2, 4:)9, rm tint 398 405 i 413, 45') •oclty.... 413, 417 418, 450 lied 420 422,434, 458,564 424 427 453 376, 395, 440, 449 409 347, 426 22 31,37, 274 282 ;. 288 274, 286 292 296 235,245, 336 253, 258 ..280, 300 42 ' 46 379,464, 472, 480 48 362,478 375, 411, 473 277 451