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Maxwell moved for : Copies of all petitions or memorials presented to the Government on the subject of C%iiner>e immigration. He said: Mr. Speaker, 1 deeply regret that my first venture in addrefwing tAiie House should Im* in ccmnection with such a s;tbject as this, but as I have receivc'd a mandate from my con.'^tituents I feel under obligation to bring it before thiH House for conMidenition and to press it as plainly and yet as strongly tt.s I [lOHt^ibly uim on the attention of the Government. One circumstanee makes this question a little peculiar, and that is that it ixirbicularly IxOongs to the Pnwii^ce of British 0)lumbia. I wish in some measure there were Chinosc in all the pro- vinces, because I am sure I would then s])eiik to a more sympathetic iiudience than I do to-day, lionoi-able members generally not knowing very much about tliis qtjestion. But in »pite of this fact, thoug4i there is not a Oliinese question in Ontario, ManitotMi, Nova Scotia, I'rince Edward Island or even in (Quebec, thoug'h 1 notice from the Montretil ■"Gazett'j'' a few days ago a great many of the citizen-* of that important ur etforts to make that pnt<'«l and prosperous class of people. Sir, one thing encourages me in bringing this question l)cfore tlio House, and that is that it is not a jxirty question; that is to say, there is nothing of the Conservative or what you may cull the Lil)eral •element in it whatever, but it is mniply a (juestion on which the large inajority of the people of British Columbia are agreed. During the late contest both Consser^'ative and Libera! candidates were pledged up to the hilt 8»» far as this question !•» concerned, and I believe if my opponent !had been elected in my place he would have done to-day what I am 3 tryiiif( to ll, niiil I Iio|n* timt wlint I may Hiiy will strik«' ii rmponnivo rlionl in liin frciU'roiH lioart, hihI that, tof^otlicr vitli tliWt (fOvi'i-tiiiH'iit, he will do M4Mii«>tliin^ t«»war«lH helping th(> |i<>o|>lc of Itritifih Cuhnnliiii to frw tlnMnMHvw from what may 1k» cj'IIwI u gnnv- ing <>vil. If my np]N>ni>nt in tlic hit** oUt-tion siiil what was true — lUitl 1 h«ive no roason what«'v<'r to doubt his word -th«'n the honoruble, the I^nider of the Opixwitiof* (Sir CharlcH TupiMM) in likewise pletl t«) the eounideration of thin (|ue!4tion. In faet, it wan Htat<<Htion in symimthy with the winhen of the i)eo()Ie of l^ritirth C'ohnnbiti. 1 nmy tiien take it. Mr. S|M>aker, that rto far hh thin^ lIouHe in eon(*4>ru<'d. there In noMiiu); of a party nature in the queHtion, ami that as we try to H«>lve what may he n'pmb'd an a knotty, delieate Hubjeet we will approaeh it simply from tfie stand|K>int of i'itixeuM in- terested in theiilevelo|iment and in the pnwjMTity of the jM'ople of (\inadu. To Moiiie, my i>osition on this tiuestion may se<>m a little Htrange; that i» to nay. nxMt people t«»-day wlio take a br. I ai'Ment to it with all my h<>art. I believe that the time is coming, it is now on the winj? though it is yet far distant and a" that. But, I hohl that the elaim whieh the iieople of Hritish ('(dunibia make through their represt-ntatives do«'« not in any way Hash witb what is now justly regarportunity to the ehureh to ehristianisc> them. I was kindly disposeil towards them. I have no ill-fivling towards tluMu yet. but when I I>egan to come in contact with the tix>uble — bcwuise thei-e is a very nerimis trouMe in con- netrtion with the motter — when I begjin to realise how these Chinese gentlemen afTectetl the moral and material interests of our own CSinadian people, then, 1 found that it wan our self interent to do all the justice to our own peoj)le that we possibly could. 1 unhesitatingly aay, from observation and coniact, tXiat an things have l)c>en going on and as they are going on at the present time, we are doing a positive injustice to those who are bone of our bone and flesh of our flesh. I heard the Premier say not long ago — and, Mr. Speaker, I desire to congratulate him on obtaining hid present honorable posit&ioa, and on the high vantage ground which ho now hoid« in our political life. I am glad 'at after breasting the 3 blnwn of cin'uinrttaiHv lie iimv " ohii >«Iih|m' tln" whisiMT of a Throiw an«r WJiiiUI a iniKlily Stote'n tUvivw." I luanl fnnii liin lips iiot loiiR an^> ilif HUUiiiont : timt »Hf |nv»«<«rn>ti«»n wax Uii- law that wv an» IxMiiid to olwiTve. I anj-ont to that (UK-tiine. It in only thnm^li s«'lf pii^wrvatioii tliiit any om> of nn t-an attcinpl to fwl th«» inipul-««>!'o of what ih nilhii altvuirtni or tin* liigluT life. \V<' niust |>n»t«'«t onr own iM'opip. Tin- laiiil is thi'ii»^ I «lo not think that i« a stranj^o »l«K'trin«' to prnu*)i on thi' lloor <»f thin Koumh-the ininw are thfivH. tin- Hsln'fiew aro tiheii-s. the op|M>rtinuti4'H lire Mieirn, ami I do not think it w a wiw |>olicy, y«i, L think it Im a mirnm'-niindrtl |M>licy to till tin* laixl witli MMni-lnirlmrianH- and to tirivo out our own p«>ple who «>ujfht to posM^H tlio«« things, and mIm», if they |kih-vhs«1 tlw-se filings, w«»ultl niakf Iwtli tluinwlvpn and Canad.i the pri «|U(>stion. This House of Com- luons i^x exceptitHiul iMxcause of the (freatness of the number i»f new nu>nll>er^, and I tlierefore wish to remind h«>uorable );entleiuen that tins is iH)t the fIrHt time that the <|uefltion has l>een brought l>efore this, honorable HouHe, Ah far iNiek as IHH4 a cinnniisHion ^vas ap|M>inte«l by the tlien (iovermnent. That eominisHion was eonip(»Hed of the Hon. Mr. Chapleau, the Hon. Mr. (Jniy, Judge «rf the Supreme tVnirt of Hriti(*li Columbia, and the Sei-retary of the commission was the diHtinguinhed aihI poetii;!al member of Went Ai«iniboia (Mr. I)avin). I'revious to that a motion luid Imhii mmle in the House to bhe following eirei-t: That, in tlie opinion of tliis Hoump, it is ex|)etlient to enact a law prohibitiiiig the ineutning of CliineHe to that portion of Canada known as Mritii
  • l>eing given by the Right Hon. Sir .lohn A Mat^onald, on behalf <»f the (iovemmcnt that a vum- mission idiould be isoued to enquire into and report upon THK WHOUO SL'RIKCT of Cliii)eM> iinmigmtion. It may not l>c aniisH to state that one of these tJiiingM wTiieh Inxmght this question to the crucial point, was the unfortunate i-omriact that w^is made by the then (><»vernnu-nt with Mr. Onderlonk who built what wa« called the Onderdonk section of the Canadian Pacific Railway. He repreHcntetl that it was absolutely neces- sary f'o import UliineHe in order to couvstruct that i>ortion of tlie railway. It was likcwrse a jwrt of the contract that after the railway hatl been eon^ktructetl, these (Hiinese hiIioing a<'nt Imck to China as they ought to have been, they were let loose upon Hritifth Columbia, and to that we may trace a great deal of tlie trouble that has arisen in our Pmvinee in regard to this Cliinese question. At the <^)ening ic iiii-fniiing of Chineue to J)ritii*h •Columbia. Now, I want to wy that the Hon. Mr. Oinpleau in makinf^ that Htnte- niont said the truth, the whole tnith luul nothinji^ but the truth. 'Iliat is still he opinion «>f a large majority of thr peofile of Britinh Columbia. Hut what 1 want to huj' ig this: That coinmi'mion brouj^ht in a report. I have read that report and it is to my mind one of tlhe most outrageoiiH reports that ever was presented to tlnn Iionorable House. Our I^ocal I^egislature and the Federal meml>ers from Kritish Columbia, had repre- sented wliat the |>eople wanted, and yet tliiw eommimion — on the strength of what evidence, I cannot {wssibly make out — bring in a report almost to the effect that tlie Oiinese were a h1e!«sing to British Columbia and that the more they had of tliem the better it wouhl be. 1 wish to say, Mr. Speaker, that tliat report in no way voices the sentiment of British Columbia. While there is a great deal of evidence in that report the j?reater portion of it i« »imply the e>-idence of men who are interested in having the Chinese there, and so far as the mass of t)he p<»oi>le were con- cerned, they were not represented on the commission as they ougfit to )»ave been. If they had been properly represented, the evidence would have been so overwhelming tluit the commission would have reported in favor of w4iat had been demanded by the representatives of British Columbia. No\v. I just want very briefly to state some of the arguments with regard to the Oliinese. Tliere is vcSjj^ is called the moral argument. I do not want to bring this quei^tionup uL^^e House in this public way, nor would I pretend to say that the whites aW^to^ether clean and pure. I know that we have our vices as well as thb iCaiaeso, but> there is t)his difference: ITiat while our vices, so to .speak, are controlled, and moulded, and influencetl to some extent by the higher forces of civilisation, not to mention Christianity; the vices of the Cliinese are dominate, and in- fluenced by the lower forces of barbarism. I need not tell this House that the Chinese are universally addicttnl to opium; that they are in- Teterate gamblers; that tliey are grossly immoral. These things are so well known and authenticateid that I do not wish to dwell upon them in the Chamber. I might mention also, that according to the evidence which has been produced in several countries, the Chinese are mostly jneml>ers of secret socities, and tliat the law of these societies is the law which they are compelletl to obey. We have leprosy out on the Coast in connection with the Oiinesc. How it came we do not know; but at considerable cost to this country we have had to transport them to an island, and at the present moment, 1 understand, they are being eup- ported by the Dominion Government. From these Chinese we are in constant dread of a return of what may he call^ the small-pox scare. A few years ago, the small-pox cost the City of Vancouver, the City of Vic- toria and the Provincial Government each thousands of dollars, and paralysed the wh(de trade of the country as long as it lasted. It may be true that the Chinese are not as bad as they are represented to be; but no M>lf-r<'H|>octinfr |)e(>pla <-iin> to Imvo the Hcriiin of CliiniMc life iluiupc liunl for me U* tell wliat influence- tlierte Cliinej^e may have u|M>n the ntonil life of the |teo|»l«>. Hut I aak hononible g«>ntlemen to think of tlie lowent cUx^ieH of (1iine>4e heini; dump- ed in tens, tiftiett, hundreds or thoumimU, into their midst, and doing Huch tliiuKH nH we know they do nnd then to Hay that they will not affwt the- mora! life of the people. For u* to imaf^nn that ttiene p<>ople have not deleteriouH etTert upon the |)eople aiiionf; whom they live, would be to- imagine something not true to eonuiion ex|>erienec. Our children to-day are iMH-oming famiriar with their gumhling deuH, their opium-funoking and their filth; and I ank you. tihuuld not the higlier moral coneern» of the people take precedeiwe of all monet^iry ctHiHitlerationH? We white people may not be iierfeet; 1 agree that we are not; but when you have a rttrenm wIkmw hmuree is tilth, and u"hieh (lows over heral life of our p(H>ple, it ntandH to- eomnion M>nHe that their moral life will Im rimw more aneing. It nmy l>e that they |>erform 8er\-icert which are useful. Kut I ask you th's : Will it pay Canada to All K^iti^'h Columbia with thouHandn of men who are THK <)FF-Sf the nM>nil tone of hei- own citizens T I saj' we ought to face this questitm; and if I were not what I am, I would press it home with mUII mon> earnestness than I am doing to-day. Hut 1 ask you to say, with tiu> |HM))>le of Hrititih Columbia, ihc moral con- siderations are of more concern t«> tlie |)eople of Canatla than a mere- question of dollars and centse is the «|U«-Htior; C^iinese labor is cheap labor; therefore, the more CIiin<>s(> cheap labor we have in Hritifiii Oolumbia^ the l)etter it will be for the develo|Mnent of that Province, Now, there is no more rea.son why we sliould have (.'hinese cheap labor in Hritish Columbia than there is that we should have it in any other part «rf Canada- Our mines, our forest^s ami our waters are surely rich enough to imy white men white men's wages in Hritish Columbia as well as in any other i»rt of Canada. Some men who are in favor of having the C^iinese in British CoIumbia,talk as if our newasities were exceptional. They are no more so t^an those of any other part of Canada. Yt(Hl in Itritiitli ('(>]iini)>iH, anU yet yin wliite mm'H wntfett; ami 1 wiy that Mritit«h KiiiMe(l wealth, to innploy white men and to )(ive them rtiieh wageH an will enable them to live in <'onifort, p<>«ce and plenty in a (florioiiH Province, wlm«h (>inI haM wonder- fully emlnwed. SoinetimeH in thiit evidenee yon will reud that one of the reasons Mueh men have for favoring; the (1iinev^> i»< thai they are ho dM> he jurti «loeH whut he in t«>id to do. Now, I know that there in a jjreat difference iM'tween the d(M-ility of n (Chinese wlave and the dwllity of a white man. The difference ix that some of thoi* people want men to wx>rk f<»r them whom they can Mwear at. and, if their tcm|K>r be at the boiling; p4»int, whtMn they can kick. Thank )(M men whom he cm kick, lM>tter than thone whom he cannot; and that is piMKically the f tlu Imhm who can dr> with liim just wiiat he pleases. I do not want to )r<» into the questiim «if strikes-, but thiw I will my: \Vli,v make a distine^Hm in favivr of Kritifii C^olumbia 1 Masters and men have their striken in ()tta>va, in Montreal, and in Toronto; but, jifter they have fought the (piesticm out they n^r e tt> l)e^in aj^ain on (]uite harmoniotiii terms; ami I can assure you that lie men who liave maile Kn^lnnd. S<'ot- land, Ireland, and th» different parts of Ciinadu, are quite funnl enough t<) ujake Kriti^h Cohnnbia all she ever ]nf[^^•^^ to be. Someti^nes you hear, AH I have heard over and over ajjain from the em|>loyers of lubor out tlieie, "Oh, the white men are so Imd and di.-'vontented that we cannot ^et on with tlieni; and the Chinese «i-e so ^cxhI, and conteut*^! and. happy, ami they just do what we v ant thnu to do." Now, I would not malif^*- any class. The white man nuiy Im> bad enou;^h ; he may have his mi's- takes. his vic*es and his fault«<; but bad as he is, lie in a. thousand timeii Ahead of the Cliinanian who cames from the jails of China. Hence, I auy : Like master, like ?iervant ; where jxm have a bad nia.ster you will have a bad Hen'ant. Jjet our capitalists he gtxNl men, and let them treat their cmiployces kindly ami synipathetically. and in Itritish Columbia, as everywhere elHe, these men will do their l»e-t in the interest of their masters and their country. We oI)ject to these Cliine^e bei-ause they do not become eitixenn nmon^ lis. 1 do not know that we want them to become citizens; but they, n of thrir f<»i'cfatli«'rH. Tlu'y «»hj«'ct to )»ayin}{ taxw. \\i> have in HHtMi ia a ]miII tax of )|(.'t ihm* ImmiI for <>utioiia1 ]Mir|Ni'.H<-H, hihI tlif diincrtt', to e>«cu|M' that ta.\, will lie like triM>|M>rrt. (hir «'lii«'f olijcc tioii, ln»\v««v«'r. to the ('liiii«M<« in that thev tako away tilu' brinul 4iiit of tlH> inoiithH of tht> wliitc iNvpiiiutioii. SoiiictiiiKM it is i-(>|>r(>-H*iitr(l that thi'i'f (iiinanim iiiaki' work for oim* \vhit«' iiiaii. Tht' very «if>|M»sit«! i» tlu' cam-. Tak«' thi* i|iii'r«tiini of m>rvaiitH. It in tlu» «lo!*irp of cvory oiu> iu> doubt to hav«- nipalth', tiiii>-l(M>kiii}; MTvantn, and I MiipiH*^** that yuM all kmnv that th«> Chinaman tak<>H the |Ha(«' of th<> stTvaiit ^irl. It Mtaudrt to « cannitt Im". and whera un<* Chinanian ix t^iiidovdl. it nutiniH that a M'lvant ^irl im out of employ, jind to lie out of em|>l«»yment me&uH f diiven to a )ifu 4if Hhaine in our ^rtiit cities . Thii;k M''\at H4>rvant ^irln mean to the com- iiiuiiity. They |NitroniHe the Htorei*, !|itv lielp to till the ehurehes, and from thin ela^H a j^reat many youn^; men obtain the wiven that are to hweeteii and bri^rliten their hoUM- What then 'loes the employment* 4)f a (liinaimin sifrnify in the mm >.iuity ? It nieaiirt nothing', ubrtDhitely mithiii);. He in what we out in liriti^h i'clumbia eiill a "nueker." taking in all he ean };et i^iid giving; out n<>* *iiit<; or an little an possible. It in not dillieult to see whieh of tin's*' ciasse-. is the l)est for Mritish Columbia, Then L(H)K AT Ol'H Kii^HKHIhX Take, for exatnple, our ean.ieri(*s. I im]>oi taiiu will find that every man empl«>yed there is a Chinaman. You will flnd huiulreds aiul thousands of thein swarming up and down during tlie lishing si^a^^oii. Will any sensible man tell me that the employment of so many Chin«'s«» do<"s not ki'e^i white men «mt of w«)rk, yet that in what we are ask«tl to believe by tho.-«' who are in favor of the admission 4»f Chinamen. It stands to reason that if thtmsiinds of Chinamen are' ^'inployedin our I'l'oviuee, white men cannot be frettiii); the employment which they have the rijfht to expect and which they oujfht to demand. (lO to our mines, and see the Immense richj's there, and you will find liundreds and hundr(>ds of (^hinanien employed in tlicsi> mines. In Home <)f the pits, you will find more (liinamen than whites. Take our market jpirdeneiiH. In market ffardeninjf the Chines«' an' a {jreat success, but what d that what is a profit to Chinamen wf>u ■ ' Im' death to the whites : they live on the refuM', on tln' swill, and they (innv rich (m what would be lUarvation to a white jfardencr's family, so that there iw no class in British Columbia to-day inoiv oppostnl to Cliinamen than our market jfanlenei«. C)ivili>''itioii aiHl cIiriHtianity have tuii){4it iniui iu Uke a lii^lu-r level in this life. They have tnu)>4it Irini to have a h(»iiie for hiiiisolf, to have a wife you will brif^ht^n his ittrugjfle for existence, to liave diilJren perhaps who will till his 'hoine witili their merry prattle and .•onjjs, and whcrevei* you ha\'e the»enettte far as tlie futun' in <-on<-erned,. that you are on the side of your CVinadian brethren and are determined to give them all flie faeiliti.es and advantages which this magniticciit eoiintry can furnish them. .lust one wli-jM>ohed tlie agitation and the (b»siie of the working clajijrtes, but RU>1>; BROKE OUT in Nevada aiid Oregtm and ditTerent otlier States and at last as the- culminating act (rf the efforts of tliese st^Ues^iicn the (Jeary A<-t was passed, which is simply an Act of pix>hibition. I may also refer to tlie- struggle which it>ok platre in New South Wales on tin's (piestion. Itut instead of wearying you witli the Act which has Im'cu passed in connec- tion with that struggle, I will simply say that the law is tliere tliat «icl» Chinaman entering New South Walew ha.s to pay a per capita tax of $r)00. So far as British CVylumbJH is concerned that is the demand that I have to make to-day, namely, that the jmt capita be rais<'d from $50 to $5()0. With all due respect to I^i Hung Chang that is our opinion an0 tax and furnisih all the necessjiriea required to these men, and they, become their slaves until they have paid out in toil what the coni|>any. exact from them. Any legislation, as far as the imposition of a per capitax is concerned, umst be legislation which will prevent these tyhee» bringing in their <'ountrymen in onler to make them slaves ami at the same time fill up this country. Another thing which has been against us in this matter is the Canadian Pacific RiiiUvay line of steamships. I 9 do not want to say a word derogatory to tli.it CVwnpany or to their stmniers. I feel m proud of their niagnifiient sseevsl a« any man in this Dominion. Tlioir ver«el« are in deed a crwlit lM>th to this country and to- the Company that owns them. But we must speak the truth with frank- ness and sobernesH. You know, Sir, that the Company ret-wives from this (loveniment an annual suhsidy of $(i(),(HM), ami from the Province of British Columbia an annuai .nulwidy of $14,00(). I do not object to that, but to this I dn object. If you go on boanl any one of these steamers, v-ou will find them ni'anned by Chinese sdiIoi>4, and filleil with Chinese firemen, waiters and cooks and otiier servants. In fact you would al- most fancy you were in a Chinese town. Now, 1 put this (picstion to honomble meml)ers. Is it fair that the i)eople of Canada should ert t»f a magnificent line <»f steamers in order to enable this Company to employ Chinatnen to run these ships 1 I tliink the jieople who MAN THliJSE SHIPS shouhl be taken from the people who contribute: the money. Should not these positions be given to Canadians 1 I know that there are many wJjo would be glad to fill them, and I think we are making a mmlest demand wlien we ask that the«e stetuners should be utilinetl for the l)enefit of the people w hoi-;e money is subs'idising them. But I may l)e- asketl will not this mean total proihibition. 1 cannot say whether it will or not. but I tell you sincerely I hoiw? it will. I hoi)e sincerely that this tax will have the desiivd efl"e<'t of preventing any more Cniinamen from coming into British Columbia or Canada. 1 now want to answer those- men who cry out for cheap lal>or. Now, 1 grant that we must have cheap labor of some kind; but I hold that there are enough white men in Canada to do this labor and they C4Ui do it ;us well an2, 3,278 came into the Province. Altogether I l>elieve 1 aju well within the mark when 1 say that there must 1k' in British Columbia at the pre-ent time alx>ut 2l),(¥m> Chinamen — one-fifth of the whole |N>pulation. SupiKwe we grant that cheap labor is alwolutely indis|)ensible. ami even that Chinamen are nee«led to do it — iiave we not enough Oiiinwiiien in the country alreaxlv for this service 1 Are not 20,tKH) enough to do all the cheap lalx>r nece*- S4iry for the development of the Provinw of Mritish Columbia? There may be objections to expelling those that we have amongst us, and I do not press that |>oint. But 1 say. knowing the facts c f t!ie cjise and anxious to do justice to all interested that are com-emed, we have enough and more than enough Ohinamen for all the industries of British Columbia that m.iy require their services. Now. let me say in i>onclusion that this is a burning (piestion. 10 The people of British roluinlMa are tle<'ply interestttl in this subject. I will not say that they are indignant, 1 will not pitrtuiv them before y«)U jis boiling over with righteous wrath. lint this I will my — that hojie deferretl inakcth the heairt »iek. I appeal to the (jovernnient, ami siiy to them with all earniestness, now is the time to eiishine them.selve» in the hearts of the ])eople of Itritish Colimibia, a |M>(>ple as honest, as in- •iluft'trious, as good as may Ik> found in any ytart iti this in igniticent lam', this Canada. Answer us aetimling to the desire of our hearts and we will make you a Pix>vinee that will be the bright«'Ht gem in the coronet with which the fair bmw of Canada is em-irchil to-day. We want to till that land with hom'st men and bonnie la^sj-s. We want to fill it witli a people who have resjxft for our laws, who will Un-ome citizens of the <»oun'try in which they live and who will be the stnvng support of Cana- ainfully describ«l in Th(> Dt»«>rted Village. Hut anr^wcv us atl in Montreal, there ajiftears an artich> from tlie pen of Mr. (Jeorge U.' Maxwell. M. P.. entitletl The Chiner^e Questitm. and whic'h lia.s called forth etnisiderable comment in the eas^tern |»rcss. .\h the subject is one of ■general interest to tlie i)eoi)le of Hritish Columbia we herewith reproduce the text of the iirticle for the perusal of our readers : It is with con.sidenible hesitaticm and trepidation tliat I send an article on this «|ucstion to Monti-ejjl, and especially to a journal ass<'t' for the fathers and brethren who coaupose tliat iniluential Presbytery, I admire the soundn«»ss of their tlieology, t'lieir theivlogical a'ttaimuents, imd their g(MMl work, but it seems to me that tlwy are haixUy fitt<>eiaiupioK our oaiir^e wortliily. Perha|w I may Ik* luiidonecl for one more referent'e to the older, and' «hall 1 say wiser IimuU of the ehiiwh. Their |M>sition prom-^ts my sympathy rather than my condemnation. Melievinjr, as they do, in the fatherlKMKl of f it, unbrotherly. Perliaps stronjjer telius mi^ht be in order, and from a sufterfieial ci>nsideration of the (U^timHiK niitflit bo perfectly Justifiable. I ean rememlM'r the time wben I would have charaeterised thiH agitation as almost a disgrace to our common humanity. But dmtrines are nixt the criterion by which pruve nor-ial, indurttrial and ]N)]itical evils are «leci»led. Sentiment is not .ilways a safe guide. It i* true that «'iivunistaii<-es alter and must alter chm»s. Theories Hometimes work badly in jjractice. Certain ci>nditions demand the application of new remedies. This is one of these pivuliar caM's w jiich upset the theories of ]i<)liticai wonomisits, ano.ssibIe to carry out the tetu-hings 4>( c«'i tain noble dectrines. much as we woiiM like to do sa. We have »e<»n the evil complained about. For seven years we have been face to face Willi it. We have i-ome in c«>ntact with all its raiuitications, so that hav- ing seen what we Imvc si'cn. we haven't the sliglitest hesitation in saying, that a pnihihitory law would not only be gcMRl for JJritish Columbia, bill would be g«K)d for the Chinese themselves. . . . Let me now deal with a few |M>ints whi< h have Mome connection with the Milijjvt in hand. Fii'st. the Cliinese are kindly treated in British <'olumlmi. I make that statement, because some might imigine other- wise. Small boys and dogs are their woivt enemie-t — especially the latter. It is strange but true, every «big has a gniwl for a ChiiKiman. I can give no explanation. You Uiust draw your own inferences. There have been a few as.-».iults made on our Celestial band but v«*ry few. They ■4'njoy the same protection as any other uM'tiiber of the community, anil an assault upon a Cliinaman would be nn)re sr\crely punislted than one upon a. \\ hite man. They are, as a whole, spe ially favored. They are permitted to ctMigregHte, to huddle t<»getlier, wlien white men would be brought up and fined for violating the s^mitary laws of tlie City. Kveiy church is oi)en to them.^ Kvery domination has s|M>cial clas.ses for them. They are given secular and religious (nlucation often without money and without price. To draw them more ^xKverfully, a great many young ladies become their teachers. Ninety |H'r cent, of them iiiake fairly gooil wages, but .loliu is like many Sm tciimeii — he won't pay if he can get 'Hit of it. Xo dxiibt be is amazed betimes at his own self-importance, .is niiinifc led by t!ie solicitude on tiie part of the chmches. and when he nees them ,-<> eager to brinj,* himinto indtistriil cinijietition with his white bioMier. he says it's a g{M)d joke, but let them i ay for it. Tiie kingdom of money is of far .more importani'c to,lo)in than llie kingdom of Heaven. Our jails are open to him, and judging from statistics, he o cupies far 12 more than his «Imie of sm«h phu-eH, at «the oo»t of the Caiiadiaii bread- winner and taxpayer. So. tlien. John has fair play given him. However the British Columbian may growl, and he has good r«a.son, as *we shall see. Jolm is aa safe, and as higlily respected, an if he were in \im own land. Again, we do not ai^k for the expulsiion of the Chinese. A great many speak an if this was our eontention. Nothing of the kind. We are- willing to allow those who are with us to remain and make tlieir prle.' tiranted what some say in true, that a certain amount of che«ip labor is requiretl; we reply, that we have enough, and more than enough. W& wi^i to treat fairty a*id squarely every Oiinaman who has been brought into the eountrj'; but, at llio same time, we claim the right to have a law hat will make it dittii'ult for intending emigrants to get in. No injustice is intended. Again, the demand made that the tax should Im' raised to $.100 per capita is not a new tiling. Of coui-se, neither iis newness nor its oldne!«- makes it riglit or wrong: but there are some people who have a jjerfec't 1 .rror of a new thing. To say that a tilling is new is suHicient to con- demn it in their eyew. History tenches that it is hard to estaWi'sh new things. So far as this question is concerned, there are quite a few who think that this e granted. But it is not new. Other countries l)cfore iw liave had to grapple with this self-sjime ques- tion. History is only rej)cnting itself ko far as (Canada is coiicerneil. Selfishness is largely resjionHible for what has taken anil what is taking* place. Sometimes Chinamen 'Spot" a countrj' and make a rush for it. They crowd in. and keep crowding in. More often it is employers of htbor. who, having failed to carry out their avaricious designs, have in- vitcjl Chinamen to cotne and help them to make more money than they could or can make by means of the white workingman. That's where and how the evil lia.« In-gun. and the rea>«n why this emigralion if* com- mended and enciHirrtgtd. One of the Austrjilrais has had to impose a $500 tax. New Zealand has followed suit. Hawaii luis closed its doors against the (Miinaman, and we all know what Americji has done. We in Canada, then, who are asking the Hou^ie of CVwnm^ns to increase- the tax to this amount, are but asking for legislation that other countries have passwl, and have been compelled o pa.ss. The very same thing.**- are staring us in the fact as were before them, and I cannot see how we can avoid doing what they have done. Again, it has lM»en urged by sK^ne, that were our House of Comnir,n» to iivrease the tax to the amount desiretl, it would be vetoed by the British (Joveritment. This objection i* purely imaginary. It is one of those hobgoblins which an objector will raise for the purptw of frigliay consult the report of the Comniisaion which was upijointed in 1884. That report is a voluitiinous volume, well printed and handsomely got up; but while there is a great deal of matt*»r in it — not alwaj-s bearing on the point — and while it is not so strongly rqjresentative of liritish Columbia's opinion on this 9ubje<'t, as it ought to "have been — if the people had been i)Top- •erly consulted «nd ropi-esented — yet one will find enough in it to con- vince tlie moHt .sceptical that we have a great desil of right on our side. As 1 wish neither to overetate nor miB-state the evidence, we shall glance At it as fully as possible. Firstly — Some aay the agitation against the Olifneat is purely n political que»*tion. One gentleman who handed in his evidence to the •Commission says: " The agitation against the Chinese has been almost eaiTied forward, chiefly by politicians who have sought the suffrages of the laboring man by keeping up the cry of ' the Chinese must go.' " I havent's the slightest hesitation in saying that that statement is not true. There is no l*r(>vince in the Dominion that has had fewer poli- ticians and less ao-called politics than British Columbia. Party politics up till the last election have cut a smalll figure in Provincial elections. Hence the agitation is not the work of the politicions — it ia the work of the people. Sometimes this objwtion has conwderable influence in form- ing the opinions of others i)n account of the standing of the men >v*ho make it. A gi'eat many people rigihtly or wrongly are pi-ejudiced against politician's, and will believe any charge that is laid against them. I Avill not defend the piofes.olitioian; he can defend himself; but I say it is cruel to charge these men for doin}^ w hat they have not done, for if ever a question was a people's question, this is the one beyond all mistake. Never was there more unanimity than on this, and they (the people) will fig^lit for the triiimph of their views to the bitter end. We have no sooner disposed of this than another from a different quarter confronts us. A doctor, wlien rqjlying, and giving his learned views aa to the yource of the agitation, insteaxl of laying the bhime on the poli- tician, throws the blame on those who throw their earnings away in buy- ing whiskey. These are the responsible ones, according to this disciple of Aesculapius. I characterise this as another departure from the truth. u Tliese may gi-owl, but if such chHract<>)V4 ulon«' ilanioun-d for tliiH, why there would Iw no ('hiiM'f»e quPHtion in UritiMli ("oiuinl»ia. I niakc thV Htiitenient witiiout fnir of contradiftion. tiiat l\u' uwwt sober, the nuwt intelJi>i;ent, tlie most moral, the most relijjious men \\v liave are the ba<'k- Iwme of tiie a;.'it»ti()n. and tlieir .-uperior cannot lie found in any part of Canada to-day. Secondly — Moral considerations constrain a ^jreat many in deinandinK^ this legislation. I do not wish to enter into tliis (|u««Mtiut this prob- lem because they have three or four Chinamen in their town. lx?t me Siiy, with all possible respw-t to th«*s<>. timt they don't know anything about it and have no means of knowing about it. A Chinese qunrter in a City — such as we iiave them on the Coast — ^is a danmeot that no }j(K»d citizen can l>ehold Avithout indignation. They crowd and huddle together. In small nxMus they are packed like herring in a barrel. The smell of opium i» stifling. You oonld set potatoes in the dirt. In the woixls of our late Premier, their premises are filthy. Hut ijerhajjs sonie may .isk, why don't y(m make them live decently 1 Why t because they won't, and you can't make- them. As the Superintendent of the City Police f«id, it is imiM>ssible to make them comply with any law, ami especially the 8*nvita?-y laws. That is as true to-day as it was l;{ yejus ago. only the evil exists in a more aggravateid fonn. 1 i)ass ovef these things lightly, beca\ise this di-^als with evils w hich no one cares al>out handling in pjiblic. Tlwy are- there, however, in their most malignant and revolting forms. They are Asiatics, and bring their Asiatic civilisation (t) with them. They pnu'- tice their vices withoiit »hamefacedne>e cursetl wiith such things ? Why should the fairest Province in the lX>minion be compellwl to nurture siu'h things at its heart ? Why should we lie forced to admit within our gates such a mass of comiption, then have to h»ok at it from day to day, and at last have to suffer frtlong. The>' commit olTences, minor and major. A CliiiiMnan can take a hand at anything in that line. From keeping 15 lioiiH4>s of priHtitiitioii, to };aiiililin}r, sttnilint; iiml mniip^lin};, they iiiakif U|> a pretty ci-j^litahU' i'i>c(M'«l «'very yejir. A larfje portion of the tiiim of our polic<' in devoted to tlu**e ('elewtialH without wlnjjfs, hihI I lielievp our p«»liee fon-e lias tc) lie auKutented in order to uM>et tlieir demands. They are exptft liaix. As one capable witnesH says : " We have j»i"e«t difliculty in trat-in^ ciiuie tlinrtig>li their ivluetance to ^rive evidence, and b«Taus«? tluiir evidence cannot Im* relied upon." Another : " If any ciinu" is coniniittcil. ycni cannot >i«->t anytliin^r out of thetn. They ti'll you. when anked. ' They do not savey.* They are strangers and foreign- ers to the truth." Fourthly. Their su'civt wK'itiew are a positive nuisance and inennce to our civil institutions. It is not nweswary to enter into tlie vexe«l (pies- tion of secret sm-ieties, but such «s are founded for benevolent and charit- al)lc pur|K>s<>s reipiiiv no defence ; their gt>od (Icim'l>er of these Chinese emigrant's are nothing but sla\es. We are all oppose-ice is practisetl to make it impos- sible for these poor creatures to get rid of their indebtednetw. We want to braik up this slavery. The prasent tax only bonds the fetters the firmer. The slave-mw-ster c«m pay it, ami by paying it, makes the slaves more and moi-e his own. To get rid of him, and to get rid of his ne- farious art, we must raise the tax to such a point as will make his busi- ness impossible, and in our humbyle oi>inion the $500 tax is the remedy at hand. Sixthly, the Chinese are binla of pasfla^. They are no^ citizens, and have no intention of becoming citizens. They have not the slightest idea of what citizenship means. Tliey come for one purpose only, and that it to make money. That is, no doubt, a weakness characteristic of 16 more than Chinamen, but every other nationality gives something back in return for whait they obtain. They are suckers. ' They will help nothing. Every Canadian institution which is our pride and our boast would wither and die were it left to the tender .sympatliies of the China- men. They bring nothing in save a few rags, and t nice all they can beg or borrow out. They impoverish everyone and everything but them- selves. They are of no u«ie to our chunnhes, schools, merchants; they which beoMnes the more intolerable as their number increase. \Miat British Columbia, requires and demands is citizens. Foreigners are out of place. We have many things to offer; we have untold wealth. I ask .any rcasonoble man if our demand is unreasonable, when we demand that those who come flhould and must come to help us to build up those insti- tutions which are our glory. They must be given as well as receivers. .Schools and churches must be supposed. Municipal, Provincial and Do- minion governments must be maintained, and for such the Chinaman is himply no good. He cmiies to us a stronger, he leaves us a stranger, and .all the while he has been with us he has evaded every tax, and refused to bear a portion of any burdens being borne by the people. Seventhly, the Chinese are stumbling-blocks in the way of our own Avorking people. This is the strength of the whole agitation, and is to jue the chief reason why Chinese emigration should practically cease. Our working classcifv are those who are pinched; they deserA'e and demand to be heard. Of course thei'e are some, capitalists or the friends of capi« talists, who say that the Chinese make work for our own people. That i.s errant non-sense. I glance over the evidence given before this com- mis.'^ion, and it is overwhelmingly against this preposterous statennent. Tlie Hon. A. E. B. Davie, Attorney-General, says : "A laborer will usually find a market !av his labor, but finds he cannot compete with the Chinaman." Dr. Hehncken testifies: "The Chinese take the work from the white laborer, and take it at a oheofper rate." The representa- tive of the working chisbes declares : " Their mode of living, a few cents per day, and the absence of families among them, will make the white men poAverless to compete against them for labor." That is the real Chinese question. Now, my sympathies are all with our own people. Charity begins at home, so should fair play. We ought to be just before we are generous. I wish no harm to befall the Chinaman, buti say thait our first duty as a church and as a nation is to see that those who build our churches and support them, that those who are building up Canada, and helping tc maintain her institutions shall have fair play, so as to earn what wM'l support not only themselves, but also their wives and families. In spite ot "gush," I say it's a crime to storve our own people in order tihat Chinamen may become rich. But it is said : We require cheap labor. I am no lover of cheap labor. As a minister, I know what that means. A cheap minister is a dear minister. Clieap laborers are not very beneficial to a country. Cheap labor is synonymous with poverty. sa piu>iiii<>s, Itiit lie does not know tiie reaflon. Any Honniblp ninn ciin divine- tiu' reason. Tlio boy^, through nejjlect of their parenta. hav»' no sense and know no bettor. Tlie dojfs are trained by men, and are naturally inclined to attack stranj?ers. If a Chinaman has a )M>y and a dog, and they see Mr. Maxwell for the lirst time dressed in his be»t, I think it is very likely the dog will growl at him, and the boy ga/e at him in astonisluuent, i>ut would have learned enoug*h from his parents not to insult him. I think tliis is a self-evis the Chines*' of being the oir-soouring of tiie gaols, slaves, etc. I wonder where he procured his informatiim ? Can he distinguisli which is the slave who sold himself, and wliich the slave boss, an«l can he prove the truth of his sttitements ? If he cannot prove it, his abuse is an invention of his own to cast aspersicm on the China- man. Can he stand before (Jod, and in the face of Justice of the l^md and contrary to tlie teachings of the IHble. He who is a minister of (iod, and a member of the House of Commons, can he. I say, disregard the biw ? If he does not sj)eak the truth, how dcM's he expect to convince or teach the i)eople if he does not treat them right ? He says the Chinese fill the gaols. The (Jovernment can produce the evidence which can upset this statement. Surely he does not mean to say tiiat all the pri-soners are Chinese V All intelligent persons know bett»>r. He says the Chinese are universally addicted to smoking opium. All intelligent perstms know that opium if abutted is harmful. Who intro- duced opium into (liina and forced China to take it ? f say it was Kngland, and the sooner England aboli>«hes the opium traflic, the better it will be for all parties. Hut no, gentlemen, England never will, there is too much nioney in it. If you •'poscd to be u])- right and intilligent. and was elected to pnmujte the welfare of the country to which he belongs, and should be eai-eful in all he says or does. and w ho would not then agrw with him ? Mut if lie is abusive an«i un- just and «leceiving how can he expsct pe \v«-aiMin!« with which thin queHiion HhotiM be foup;ht out. You sj»y thcChiiM'rte quarter in a "*Iuiiim«>*1 rtpol, a spot that no goople of your City of both sexos, old and youn^, make the round of this "dimmed spot" in honb's, iu honor of the iM-oLsion, prai.s«! evi-rythinj? they m»o ami further enjoy the hospitality oi the Chin<'so by (Nirtakin^ of the jjooil thin<;A provided for the oo«ision. Would this bo the case if our spot were s\u'h »is Mr. Maxwell would leatl jjeople to believe. So you see the evil intent on Mr. Maxwell's part is so ;jlarin*j tiiat one wonders how a man ordained as a Christian minister and teacher can so far for;jct himself and {live vent to such fabulous exajifjerations and untruths. He wants to increase the tax from $.■»(( to .^.KM) to prevent them from comin<; in. Why then does he tax them iji'UK) and let them come in 'i Why not exclude them jiltoffether ? He says they won't be<'ome citizens ? \\'»'ll he knows why. That is beeau.se they are ill-treated by whitemeu. He says " Chinese must next day and .so forth. I feel n.shain(Hl of this mj'self, and am not happy and am consequently in constant f««r of sfallin0, but do not stay but go to the{^tat«'s and other places in what numbers T am unable to .say, but Canadian Customs will .sliow. Canada opens its doors to us, still the ('hinese do not increase in number. At presi»nt 1 am. sure there are not more than 10,(M¥) Chin(>se in the whole Dominion of Canada. Considering the area of Canada, there is any amount of unoccupied land, and I do not see how 10,0(K) Chinese 35 f aiir nuiii).' to ruin tli*> |ni»)*|>«'«'tH of tin* vountry. So far u^ I can we, the < 'liiiu>iM> ini' a ^rrcat lu'iu'lit, a.H for iiiNtancc Die ^^aliiinii caiinerivs (Miiploy from :{. in nuMcantiU; I)iis1ii«>hm, the coiil niincr.s cniploy from 4(M) to '»(K> and otlicr kinilH of work from H(NI to tHN). Till.' <-tiiinin)r l)iHin«*Hs is that in vhicli thi- ( 'hin<>K(> an' most oxtcnsivi'- ly cmphiyt-d, and their rarnin^H di-rivrd from each si'asiHH work are hardly suliicifnt to kiH'p IxhIv and soul to^rcllu-r on at-counl of thi' >hort- Mt'ss of tlu> st'as«m. Tlui best hands put in tliMM- or four months in a year, and earn about iHl'iO. less board. th<> ordinary hands work about a month 01 six wt't'ks and «'arn bctwH'u .If-VI and )|!)tO, less boaixl. which hnives but a small mai'4' they ar«> (-ompt'lh>d to work unless they fid something; steadier. Tliey |>i>y Provincial tax. $.'i. and roud tax. $2, fln money is brought into the Province, and in order to compete witli American canneries where ChiiU'sc are employed, and with better facilities and advanta;res. the Hritisli Columbia canneries have to em]doy chea]) Chim'se labor, for white labor would he too exiM»n- Hive. and mak<> the product <»f Pritisili ('(diimbia canneries t(H> hifih as (■om|mred with that of the American canneiies. hence I say tiu' Chinese are a benelit and not a detriment to Hritish Columbia. As for yold miners, the (liinew jjo over the ;;round the second time after the ground lni.s \ufn worked and abandontnl by whitemen. With a little i)atience they 4:l thereby. The Chinese farmers raise crops of ve^jelabb's and cereals which other- wiw would have to n corni-t, l>ut I r>ay tlial a man eurninf; a Mmall ineom« cannot atroni to hire a hi<^i wa^e man. and conHefpipntly <*hea|) hibor irt of benefit to thoMe whiiMe t^trninKM are Minall. .Mr. Maxwell sav.i the ('liineH«> take all their wealth to Chi na. I rtllV it eortts money to come here, and we pay money to m't in here and npend He d.INNI to .1(2(KI.(MN> and then leave for their liotnes. Why doen he ke<'p Ixtth eye.n o|»eii to watch for the Chinaman who ^(H'.h away with his |Miltry hundreds, and not reserve half an eye for the other forcifrncrs with their thousands t Ah I understand it, the tn-aty is to promote trade and commerce lietween the two nations, China and Kn^'land n<»t to restrict it. He calls them "semi-savages." Tliey were born in Cliina and have been there for th««isands erf years, and are •'«lucate»l ami civilised aecord- in>i lo the manners and custo^ms of their country, in the sjime way as the inliabitants of any other country. Mere, irf course, tlu'y are stranj^ers to tlie manners and customs of tlie country, as whitemen are when they ^'o to China, but they know rif^lit from wron),', and they study the law of the country and abide by them to tlu* best nf their ability, and I er heard cf a Chin'.iman abusing a whiteman. but tlu' whitenian abuse- iie (liinaman, and I say that the few Chim'se who are liere do not prevent whiteiuen fnnii coming here to settle. The strong conservative princi|»les of the Chinaman as evinced by his 4-ontinue represent them who can answer him face to face. I have, therefore, tried to explain the truth in n'gard to the Chinese question, and I hope the honorable gentlemen of the House of Commons will seriously look into this que.stion, as between man and man and do justice in tlie discussion of this juatter as regards the Chinese who Are in Canada at the pi-esent time. («UNG C^HUCK. President Chinese Hoard of Trade. Vancouver, K C, April 9th. 1898. :i7 Ttiu lioiiiirahlc ^entlttiicii ^*i tlic ll(»iiHt' \\ «>f tlir ciim' 1 hi'}' to «fli of Mr. (icuixf K. Mavvvrll «U- livfU'il iM'fon- tlu' lionnral)l«> };cntl*>ni<'n on nie )>tli of Sopti'inhiT, A. I)., iKlHt. alnu tilt' letter of Mr. ('. .\. Coliuan. .MiMMionary of tli«> I'li'Hliytt'rian Clniri'li in Canada to tlic (Niiiii-sc in Hritisli Colinnltia. annian'H t|K-«>«-li aliovu nitntioni-d. .Ni'xt I will draw you attention to an article writtor by the honoraldc •rcnllfnian to the " Prci-ltyterian Collefic .loiiriial." piililiHlusi in Mru»:il of wliicli yon tannot ii«-l|> noticing to what a }(r^ drawn in his horiin in ciiniimrison with the -|H'»'ch made liefore your lioinnahle body, sliowin^r thai then' was <>(mmI ^.'loiind for the statements in rebuttal made in I lie letters of .Mes-is. Ciilman mid Cuniyou. Next I woidd draw y(»ur attention to the fireat versatility, if it may he so termed, of t he lionorable };entlenian who preaehed a s«'rmoM before the Or.in^ie Society in X'aiicouver on the first day of Ntivenvber, ISIMI. in whii I' the followiiij; passjifje (k-cims : ••rii;inks flirt lier to tlie ^jrowinji )irominence which has lan-n ^iiven to the fatherhdii.l of (iod and the hrotheriiood of man. we realisi> that thoii;i)i di\ ided in our opinions or our views of divine trulhs. that tliou^')) we worship in dillirent churches, witli ditieri lit rituals, and that tliou^li we have diflVreiit diiiouiinational names, yet we are all the otV-priii}; of one Father, and luellireii of the Lord .l«>sus Christ, the Son of (icui. the Saviour of uu'ii. Yes. I repeat it. we live in better days. The truth d* clearer, the li^rht is purer, cliarity is -tweeter, men are hiimaiier than ever before, and our duty is. lud to set man a^'aiiist man. not to stir up strife, not to throw Imuics of discord amoii^ those who lisp the s.iimi prayer, Kin;,' the same sonars, adore the safu»> (Jod. and who arc strivinj; to reach the same Heaven, but to do unto men as we would likt> men sliould do unto us. In other w< : When union sweet, and clear esteem In every action glows. 38 Love is tilt' golden chain that binds The liappy houIh above ; ■ • And he's tin lieir of Iltviven, that finds His bosom glow with love." From this, Iionomble gentlemen, we may see that this so-called ora toi- ls all things to all men, a veritulilc jumping-jack in oratory, and judge the case accordingly. He would li-ad you to believe that he is an <'X- pert on the Chinese question, us it e.vists in Hritish Columbia, whereas his exjjerience has only been amongst the few of the lowe-^t class of Cliin- ese, such as wcjod choppers, market gaixleneis, swill giithercrs and (ish liawkers. Of the letter class of ( liinese lie has told you nothing, for he knows notliing. To him all Chinamen are alike, and like many otliei-s wliose wisii is father to the thought, he does not kn(vw one Cliininian from another. Again, by showing ymain in the country. 'I'iiey are only birds of passage on their way to tlie States, Mexico. ( hile. Havaim and ot'iier jdaces, where Cliinese labor has to be employed on account of the torrid nature of the ciiniate. He gives you 20,(M)() as the probable number of Chinese at present in IJritisli Colum- bia, whilst the missionaries who are pi-etty well posted on the matter, place the number at less than half his estimate. Now. gentlemen. I ask in all reason what dependence can you place on the utterances of tiiis honorable gentleman who sees st enemies being bi>ys and dogs, especially the latter, and he says : ' 1 can give no explanation." As to the b( -s, if they through neglect of their parents bou.sting of high ^'ivilisjition cannot set a better example, what iiin you exiKtt of af(>reign- ■*r ? Hut you «»nnot exi>eet any better of the boys when men like Mr, 39 ^riixwfll (who is a Cliristian teaclier) s<'t them -suph a bad example in rtficird to speaking tlie truth and throwing nuul. The uneivili.seil C'hina- ;iian as taiiglit by Cliristian il«K>tnnv treats ail of this with silent eon- t«'nipt. they care for none of these things. lias the honorable gentleman ever visited a Siwash ranehe. If lie ever does he will find that Siwasih dogs know the difference between the ordour of sanctity of a Presbytennn parson and the fishy iM»rfume of their lonls and niast^Ms, and express their feelings accordingly. Another thing too, the honorable gentleman well knows that many of the dogs bel()ngi..g to white men have been trained to attack a China- ni-an or an Indian assoon as they scent them. I don't agree with him that the Chinaman is well treated. He dcM's not even enjoy the privih'ges V hich a Siwash does. , He then makes objwtion t'- their huddling tog<»ther as contrary ta the Minitary laws of the Cit'. There is a cubic air by-law which is rigidly cuforcetl by the Sanit iry (Hllcers, lK>th in Victoria and \ancouver, ami Ihe Chinese have ccmformetl to the law as far as I know, as other- ivise they would iiave lieen severely punished. If the law is not enforcetl, blanif the Sanitiry Offiei'r, why blame the Chinaman. He continued with regard to the attempt by the ivligious de- nominations to Chnstianise and cdu<'ate them, and in some cas«>s I am happy to say with gcMxl results, and wejv they accorded the wime treat- ment ou'side as they receive within religious circles there would V)e more likeliliood of their assimilating themselves with the manner ami customs of their adoptwl country, but under the existing circumstances a nimiber of them join thes»^ classes solely for the purpose of lejirning Phiglish as quickly nus po-.jsible, and at tlie least ex])ense. For their own adv.mce- nicut. A.' regards offences against the law inspite of the large Chinese jjopu- latirw! w iiich the honorable gentlenuin would have you to believe to be in Vancouver, there has not l)e<'n (Mie single case wheivin a Chinanuiti was a<-cnsed f)f murder or attpmj)te(l murder since N'ancouver iM'came a City, and the worst crime that oui be laid to the charge of the ('hinese in that time is that of petty larceny. But is this only found amongst the- Chinese V Statistics will show it is not so. He tlicn claims under the lirst head that this is not a ]M)litical (|ues- lion. The best answer to this is to ask another t|nestion. ' How tlu'U; was it that every candidate for election, on the 2.'}rd of .lune. 1H!U!. for the Hoii-e of Counnons. whether Libeial or Conservative, devoted so much of his time in addressing the electors on liis views of the Chinese question, and all ended up the discussion with the cry 'the Chinese must go." It is a certain fact that any candidate wlu^ disagreetl with that cry luid no chance of Mn-uring the votes of the majority of the electors which belong essentially to the laboring class. :in'! I believe that the views of the learnetl diK-tor spoken of by the honorable gentleman contained more truth than tietion, as the bar-nHnn politician is. of all others, the most 40 hitter ii};aiu«t the Chinese, and wciu he to work more ami pay h'ss atten- tion to the tlowin}? bowl there would be less objeetion ajifaiust tlie ("hin- eso. As a politician, if Mr. Maxwell were to pay nun'e attentiiHi to tl>e wants of hirt district tlian ne does to the Cliinese question (abcKit whieli lie know-. notiiin<;). and would direct his efforts to JcK-al iniprovements he would save nuicli valuable time and be of niucli {greater bcnclit to his district. He jjfiK's on lo say that tlie iii(»st sf>ber. intellij^ent, moral and n;- lifjious men we have art^ tlu* backbone <)f tiie aoi*als and defrradinj; habits of the Chin- ese have already been well ansiwered in the letters of Messrs. C. A. Colman and W. A. Cumyou. both of whom have seen nK>re of Chinese life and numners and habits than Mr. Maxwell ever dreamt of. Further, were their habits .so filthy and de{i;radin{r ;i- he would have you believe, is it likely that so many Chinese would find positions at fi;oest hoiise.se. the best fanulies and the bes-t hotels ? (JentlenuMi a word t() the wise is enoug*!!. His next diatribe as to the criminaliiy of the Chinese has already been answered to some extent, and i may add that aecordinp to him that which is slurred over as a minor offence, and even w inked at in a white man is a horrible crime in a Chinaman. Keepiii}; houses of prostitution, framblinji. stealinji and snni a IJcncvolent Society, which is iiu'oi|Mirat(Hi ami is a roaily \v(nthy institution. The Chinese Consolidate*! Ik>nev<>lcnt -Soc'icty of Britisli ('oliin'')ia to-«lay wired $3,r)(H) to relieve distress caused by the drou^jht in the Fhovince (.f Canton. I lis next outc-ry is apiinst slaves. Here a^ain tlie iionorable frentU-- raan is drawing on his imagination. The so-called slaves are no more slaves than the men hire? tliose made by tlie white ccmtractors. the principle is the sjinic, and as a matter of fact those of the Chinese are moie liberal th«n those of the railway contract (Us. In proof of this assertion, I bc8. which is to tlie fol- low inj; cH'ect : Montreal. Mardi 2i). — (Special.) — The Cro.vs Nest I'as^ Commission, composed of .Ju(l<,'e l)u<,'as ami Messrs. Pedley and Appleton, met here to-tlay and heard tlie evidence of .several witnesses. Tiie first witness examined was a laborer named Pierre Denis, who was hired to <;o to the pass in Octoljcr last. He was to work as a blaster at the rate of $l..")(> per day, and pay .$4 j>er week board. He went up with !)") others, and resiched McL<'0 cholera anil fever. Four of the men fell sick, and remaincLLAR .Jaint's W'liite, alw of tliis C^ity. wuji engaged on (Jctober 4th at .$l.r>() per (lay, witli the privih-ge of paying $4 a week for lii.s lM>ar(l or hcmnling himself. ilv rehitwl liis (experience in tlie filthy ohl iioiise at ^IcI^'ihI. He* worked 1(» days in (Moher, 22 (hiys in November, and some live d-ays December. After u time he was sent up to the mountains from McLcod along witli trtliers, and tliey were two days without fiKHl. When they ivaclied tlie jwss he could not find any work, and with others tramped back to McLeod, selling his blanket.s for sometliing lo eat. lie called uj)on the jjaymaster, and when his account wsus drawn up for ti^nsporta- tion, Ixxird, mcKlicnil fees, etc., he was told that he owed eigiit cents. He askcil Mr. Turnbull to l)e j)ut to work.as it was agicwl that lie would get si.v iiumths' work, but he was refused, and told to get out of tlu' oflice. The men olrtaiued food fnvin one of the councillors of Mcf-etHl, and slept in box cars without fires. He did not receive a dollar for all Ills work. With two otluMs lie starteil on his way back to Montreal about Christ- mas, and reache^l here abcmt two weeks ago."' I venture to say no siu-'li treatment as is here discloseil lius ever been accorded to t'hinest? workiiu'n by tlu-ir bosses. It was only during the construction of the C P. K. that (')iincse were engagetl and brouglit over to iJ. C in this way, and none since. The laborers were engiigeii at .so much per month, and anything tiiey rc(|uirey their way. so by w(nking trwitetl t Teiifli tlieni to lM?foine citi- zens. TrtHit them as men and onlifjhten tlicm on the benefits of civilisti- tion, unci they would iHcfer to stay and spend their money in the eoun- Iry where they made it. hnivin}^ «mly wlien their raee is nifjh run out to return to tlieir home and lay their bones with tliose of their forefathers. Can you ask them to do more 1 lie next (-omplains tiiut tlie Chinanmn av(«ds paying taxes. In an- swed I would say that in industrial institutions wliere Oiinamen are employed, nine-tenth of tliem fmy their Provincial and lioad Tax, antj as to the merchants they always jmy up when callwl up(m to do so without any eriod by one week lie has again to pay the .$.)t) tax before he is allowed to land. His next ap]K>al is with regard to cheap labor, comjwratively speak- ing, (.'hinese lalxu- is no cheaper than white. Two sober and reliable whitenu-n are equal to three Ciiinamen and sometimes more, and as a gen- eral rule the whites are theuj.selves alone to blame for the employment of cheap labor owing to their inebriety and unreliability, were they s(>ber and industi'ious they would have nothing to fetir from Chinese comjieti- tion. As it is, the Chinaman is re-ally the governor siifety valve which j)revt'nts the white laborer from casting discretion to tiie wiiub and strik- ing for higher wages. bistly. the people of all nations are here for the purpose of making money, and if a man who can and does make money i« not able to take cjire of it, he has no one to blame but himself, and lie has no right to blame the (liinaman because he is industrious and thrifty and saves his money. If a man goes to a country where he is disagrewibly treated, he do<»s not expect to live there longer than is necessary. Ho makes all he can and leaves. So with the white** and the Chinese. The former come from the e*ast to settle here and nmke all they can, and in a few ca.ses to make their home here. The Chinaman comes from tiie west for tiie Siime purpose, and if they are allowed the same privileges do like- \vi.se, but failing the jirivib-ges they cannot jusitly be blamed for nuiking all they win and then le-aving an atmosphere that is antagonistic to them. lie says that you go into a Chinese house and the air is stifling with the -mell of opium, and potatoes could be set in the dirt. I verily be- lieve that the honorable gentleman, though himself an inveterate smoker, does not know the diflerence between the smell of opium and tiuit of Chinese cured tobacco, and as to tlie dirt, if h«? will make the round of all the cabins in Vancouver he will find that the majority of Chinese habitations are just as clef^.i Jt At -A ii 3^ -i* * t 13- . "'*»^ . <^v ^, ' » '. ;, i.,_ -'i., ' J -X J*. :(^: •:»' >■::( k As I it i I f t •a. 1^ /^ I- i it f -K M I. 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