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Les diagrammes suivants illustrent la mdthode 32X 1 2 3 4 5 6 ANSWER OF THE TRUSTEES OF TlIK TORONTO GENEKAL HOSPITAL roTHE HEPOirr OF THK INSl'ECTOl! OF PRISONS, KTC, LAIKLY I'UKSK.NTKl) To THE LEGISLATnn^ ASSE:MBLY «. ( T ORG X T : PRINTED AT THE LEADER OFFICE, G:? KIN'Ci STREET EAfiT- 1871. TO 3 PRl K^h ifiS^-^ ANSWER or ■■■; rl^ IHE TRUSTEES OF THE m TORONTO GENERAL HOSPITAL U TO THE REPORT OF THE INSPECTOR OF PRISONS, ETC., LATELY PEESENTED TO THE LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. TORONTO: PRIKTBD AT THE LEADSR OFriCS, 63 Kl.Va 8TRBET EAST. 1871. (( I ^0 r ANSWER TO THE REPORT OF THE INSPECTOR OF PRISONS, &c., RELATIVE TO THE TORONTO GENERAL HOSPITAL. The Trustees of the Tororto General Hospital have lately seen the Report of Mr. Langmuir, the Inspector of Asylums, Prisons, &c., presented to the Legislative Assem- bly of Ontario, during the present Session, in which it ia stated : "I visited the Hospital on the 8th December, on " which day there were 94 patients in residence. Although " perfect cleanliness and order cannot be looked for, or ex- " pected, in an Institution of the kind, still I think a good "deal more miglit be done to improve matters in this " i espect, particularly on the male side of the house. The "bedding in the male wing ward was far from clean, " although the supply was sufficient. The revising of the " dietary lists does not apparently receive sufficient atten- " tion. The allowance, in many instances, on the day of " my visit, was in excess of what was used. The practice " of serving the whole bread rations for the day, at one " time, is also objectionable ; some patients leave it until it " becomes dry and unpalatable. From the accounts ren- " dered to me, it appears that the cost of food, medicines, " and medical comforts, is very much greater than the "same service costs in the Hospitals at Kingston* and " Hamilton, although the dietaries in the last-named Hos- "pitals are quite as liberal, and better served, than in "Toronto. " The annexed statement exhibits the cost of each Hos- " pital in respect to this service : — 4 '^^ e ^ <3 >- to .1 1 ^ O •^$^ <; =!^ ^ 'j>» ?■> fa 1^ -ud jod .Cup J.^d ^so;^ ■5^ 00 r-i •IB)ox CO M -M 03 •iCiddus .101" AV « «& CI 1-.* •eo[qTj;oSoA. 00 Of. — ft cs CO CM CI 'mK , (J CM CM • •SOTld -dug puB souooo.Tj) . 00 CO CO 10 •S1.10JU103 [tJOTpoJ^r puB supipaj^ . CO «o CO CO CO 1—1 •pGo.13 puB anoy 1- CI •sjuidg pUB *OUT^ 'J392 1^- I-H 1(5 CO 1—1 CI ifO CO •t^ 1—1 c: 1--5 •ao+^ng: $ c. 281 03 00 a •jB0j\7 ,sa8tio;na: $ c. 1319 80 Ci 00 •[B^idsoH lU /bis 8Ap09llO3 00 n CO cc 1—1 10 CO CI -1B9J1 aopUtl SiUOT^BfX Gen'l Hosp'I Toronto... -i-j c c S rt h- 1 1— H .S a 05 -2 2 ^ CJ-tJ ,< c3 O O 5.0 .z; -M :; -o ,. J-" - =^ Cw ^ t^^ ■*-' So tH "^ " " "Ci Ph > o -M to TS « en -t-3 o CI « c c« .t: a ^ ^ • 1^ o c Ct hH S M-J I— H o '^ « 53 .22 o - "is c8 FrI tor's 1st tho Al 2n| in till Zn J ^ cJ o 1— t L_ii rt '-I > o > •»-> «-4 & ^^ r^ rt 4-' M o -M s CO c 4-rf 03 o -a « ■4^ O S -M B 'B- 03 •iJ o G M (U HH « f From this extract, it is to be collected from the Inspec- tor's Eeport : 1st, — That there is a want of cleanliness and order in tho "Wards. 2nd, — That there is a want of cleanliness in tho bedding in the male wing ward. 3rd, — Th?<- the dietary lists do not receive sufficient at- tention. 4th, — That the allowance in many instances, on the day of his visit, was in excess of what was nsed. 5th, — That tli3 practice of serving the whole bread ra- tions for the day, at one time, is objectionable, some pa- tients leaving it until it becomes dry and unpalatable. Cth, — That from the accounts rendered to him, the cost of food, medicines, and medical comforts, is very much greater than the same service costs in the Hospitals at Ham- ilton and Kingston, although the dietaries in these Hospitals are quite as liberal as they are in Toronto. Tth, — That the meals are better served in these Hospitals than they are in Toronto. This Report is either correct or incorrect. If it be cor- rect, and if the returns of the other Hospitals bo correct also, the management of the Toronto Hospital, so far as the cost is concerned, must be too extravagant and must be re- formed. If it be incorrect, it is the place of the Trustees to point it out. As to the alleged want of cleanliness of the wards, and as to the eervice and distribution, and alleged waste of food, the Trustees entertain no doubt they can Eatisfactorily answer these matters. These charges, too, even if well Ibundcl, are very easily answered. More vigilance, and a little more trouble taken, will at any time quite remove them. EXPENSE OF MANAGEMENT. Tho Trustees arc concerned more particularly in deal- ing with the imputed expcnsiveness of their Trust, as that is tho most serious charge, and the one in which the public may probably take the greatest interest. The Trus- tees have, since the appearance of the Eeport, examined the details of the return which was made by the Secretary of the Hospital to the Inspector. This return they did not see before it was sent in. Tho Trustees find that a serious mistake was made in the number of days which the stay of the patients in tho Hospital for the year amounted to. The number returned was 21,348. while tho true number was and should have been 28,659. As the total number of days is the division in all computations affecting the ex- penses in question, an error in it must materially affect the results produced. The mistake, tho Trustees believe, originated in this manner : The number of patients in the Hospital on the 1st of October, 1869, was 63 The number of patients admitted to the Hospital from the 1st October, 1869, to the 1st October, 1870, was 669 Total during that year 632 The number returned was 634 The 63 patients were in the Hospital after the 1st October, 1869 7,783 days. The 669 patients were in. 20,876 " Making the total number of days. . . . 28,659 The Secretary, it is believed, must have omitted from his return the stay of the 63 patients, and taken merely the stay of the 569 patients. His return of 21,348 days does not quite square with the 20,876 for the year patients, but it is not very seriously different from it. It formed, no 63 569 632 634 doubt, the basis upon which he made his return. This, at all events, is our conjecture. The 63 patients in question were in Hospital, it will be seen, on an average of 123 days each ; several of them were in for considerably more than 200 days. A list ot tho time that each one was in ward has been carefully made up. The mistake referred to, which no doubt is a very serious one, is not, it is plain, attributable to the Inspector. He acted on the figures given to htm. The error, however, attaches to the Eeport in fact, and tho results dependent upon the former return must therefore be amended. The same statement also shows $932.20 expenc'ed in Toronto for milk, and nothing whatever for it is stated in the res- pective Keports for Kingston or Hamilton. There is a return of $55.39 made from Kingston for milk, but not copied into the Inspector's tabular statement. The return from Hamilton is, " Other expenditure, including milk, $493.13." But how much of tliat is for milk is not stated in the return, and no amount is stated by the Inspector for the consumption of milk against the Hamilton Hospital. It may be stated as at least $100. It appears in the same statement also that there is a sum of $300 expended in Toronto for water, and nothing whatever is paid for it in Hamilton. The item of milk, before mentioned, the Trustees will have to refer to when they explain the large expenditure for beer and spirits. The tabular statement, as amended in the number of patients treated and the total days stay in the Hospital, will be as follows : Patients. Days. Toronto 632 28,659 Kingston 504 14,743 Hamilton 466 19,572 It is singular, while Kingston had more patients treated than Hamilton, that Hamilton should have 5,558 more days stay in Hospital than Kingston had. < 8 It is, perhaps, to be accounted for by the fact that in Hamilton there is an outer ward, or thed, where persona who require no nursing are kept in fooJ and medicii.e, but wait entirely on themselves. There Avere IG such persons hi that ward when Dr. Hampton, the Medical Superin- tendent of the Toronto Hospital, lately visited it. These persons, he represents, are not properly Hospital patients, Vut are more fitted for a Poor House. The ward is not properly an Hospital ward, but a poor ward attached to the Hospital. These 16 persons, having nothing but the Hospital regular allowance^ can be kept at a minimum cost. Their support should not be estimated on the same scale as those who are proper Hospital patients, who require extras and special medical treatment. The number of persons who passed through the Hospital at Hamilton, in the year, is stated in the Inspector's tabular statement at 476. In the Hamilton return it is stated once at 466, twice at 476, and once at 486. From the return 466 appears to be the proper number. The return made is as follows : In Hospital 1st October, 1869 38 Admitted during the year 428 w < CO < 466 And the average number of days is stated to be 42 per patient. The figures, 466 x 42—19,572 days. The statement shows also an expenditure for Medicine Medical Comforts for Toronto of $500.68. It should have been $754.81, as the difference in amount had been sup- plied, but not paid for when the return wa? made. The following tabular statement, counting the persons in the outer ward or shed at Hamilton as Hospital patients, and amending the facts according to the preceding figures, will be as follows : 9 let that m re persona dici'.e, but ell persons il Superin- ^^' Tlieso 1 patients, ard is not ttached to ig but the num cost, e scale as ire extras Hospital ispector's iurn it is *• From ei'. The :8 '8 42 per fedicine Id have ■en sup- i'sons in atients, Sgures, tz; W H <1 Eh P5 Eh ft ft Iz; •^aai; 00 -ej -IS*! ^^p -lad ^so;;) Q oj l-H l-H « "* o» O ->" _^o •3[nK CM< 2.»o' «o «e CO o o o» l-H cj <=> 03 "* •saild " 05 i> CO -dng puB sauaoojr) l-H eo OS 1— o o^ W5 CO I— 1 « ::: CO o •s;jojiuoQ 00 "5 io [Borpojij puB guioipoj^ CO CO l-H CO x> (M eo cj o> CO (M " o i:- ■* •pBOjg; puB Jiiou M OS «5 «f& OS -"l* CO «i « r-i o •s:^uidg " U5 o l-H l-H t3 w 00 OS O Ui 00 uanna rH OS i:^ ^ 00 (M CO , Eh ^^ ^1 =« O -4-3 O ID to — 'cj ~ o .5 i "S ^ S CO O 5* Q P ^W o = s o P _ c r;- o K 7— tfcp .= 3 hH l-H C rH « §'^« a vi if - oq ^^ a o CO 10 Taking Kingston as a test of expenditure "witli Toronto, it will be found that the latter, with nearly double the number of days, has an expenditure of nearly double the amount of Kingston for butchero' meat, groceries and water, while fur butter, Kingston exceeds Toronto in ex- penditure ; nearly equals it as to vegetables; and is two thirds of it as to bread and flour. As to these items the Toronto expenditure is $i:,008.10, and the Kingston $2,374.09, the Hamilton expenditure as to these items is by the preceding table $2,293.93. The proportion between the Toronto and Hamilton days is nearly as 3 to 2. Tlie Toronto expenditure should, there- fore be one-half more than in Hamilton. That will make the Toronto allowable expenditure $3,440.90, but as will be seen it is $4,038.10, or $597.20 in excess of what it should be taking the Hamilton expenditure as the proper test. This last sum makes a difference of a little more than 2 cents per day per patient against Toront:. As to these articles, Toronto is more below Kingston in expenditure than Hamilton is below Toronto, But if the shed, or outer ward, at Hamilton, be filled with persons not properly patients, and receiving nothing but the ordinary diet and medical treatment, and no nursing or other attendance, the difference in economy will probably be found to be very little, if any, in favour of Hamilton. It is manifest then, that the chief difference in the preceding corrected tabular statement in the expendi- ture of these three Hospitals, does not arise from the items last mentioned. It must, therefore, arise from the other items under the heads of beer, wine and spirits, medicine and medical forts and milk : — The Toronto expenditure for these articles was $2,463 54 Kingston " " " 420 93 Hamilton " " " 586 55 u i 11 1 Toronto, 3ouble the :louble the ieries and nto in ex- nd is two 8^,038.10, nditure as 03. The n days is Lild, tliere- will make : as will be it should roper test, re than 2 i to these il^endlture be filled ? nothing , and no economy in favour difference ! expendi- :he items nder the medical 2,463 54 42G 93 586 55 < Now doubling the Kingston expenditure would mako that of Toronto, in the ratio before mentioned as to Kingston $853.86 and by adding half to the Hamilton ex- penditure, would make that of Toronto $879.82. But the Toronto expenditure is nearly $1,600 above either ot these sums. It is in consequence then of the very large outlay for these three items that the Toronto expenditure is raised above that of the other two Ilospitnl-^. The prescriptions ot these articles, as is evident, is and mii t be under the sole direction of the Visiting Medical officers. The articles are used for patients only — the medicine is given to out-door patients as well, averaging about live per day — the spirits are nsed also in making up medicines. The Trustees now show the allowances ordered in the month of December last, for beer and spirits and for milk, by the different medical officers. The milk is the extra quantity beyond that which every patient in the Hospital receives in the daily distribution. The cost of the beer and spirits and milk for Toronto was $1,708.73. Dr. Aikins, to 19 patients, ordered Dr. Berryman, 13 Dr. Rowell, 9 Dr. Richardson, 11 Dr. Thorburn, 7 Dr. Geikie. 25 Dr. Canniff, 22 Dr. Cassady, 20 Dr. Hodder, one f f the consulting Physicians, ordered to one of the patients 24 Dr. Hampton, Resident Medical Offi- cer, ordered to patients in emer- gency, and to some who were ad- (i u u (( a (( li it « u i( (( Milk. Beer. Whiskey. pts. pts. 0Z1. 558 177 810 262 74 848 340 61 424 412 62 990 389 102 386 1057 124 3100 712 64 994 774 136 1696 13 mitted after the ordinary admis- sion hours, until they could be at- tendid t) by a visicin^ Physician.. Used in Dispensary lilk. Beer. Whiskey. pte. pta. ot(. f • 160 • • 360 Total 4,523 800 9,768 Equal to, of gallons, tt Milk, 56a Beer, 100 "Whiskey, 76 gals. 2^ pts (( at 12ic. $70 75 25 25 00 85 64 86 Total expenditure $160 61 One of these patients, besides the ordinary Hospital diet, received for the whole month as extras, daily, 2 pints of milk and 1;^ pints of whiskey. Another received for eight days, daily, 3 pints of milk and li pints of whiskey. Other two for some days received 3 pints of milk and 1} pints of whiskey. Another 4 pints of milk and 1 pint of v/hiskey. Several got 4 pints of milk and some whiskey, and so varying in quantities and times both as to milk and whiskey. The total cost of the month for these articles was $ 160 61 At an average for the year of $1,927 32 Which would be in excess of the 12 months from October^ 1869, to October, 1870, given in the tabular statement at $1,708 73. The great outlay which is made for beer and spirits and for milk, and which, with the amount tor medicine, occa- sions the real diflference of expenditure between this and the other two Hospitals referred to, is a charge for which the Trustees cannot rightly be deemed responsible; they have invited and obtained the best medical advice and skill to be had in the city, and they must, as they ought to eer. Whiskey. Pt9. OM. 160 360 too 9,768 $70 75 25 00 64 86 . $160 61 ipital diet, 2 pints of 3 of milk milk and tnd 1 pint nd some 30th as to $ 160 61 11,927 32 October^ ;ement at irits and 30, occa- this and )r which le; they 'ice and ought to 13 do, trust that these gentlemen will order tl ..t which is right and not more of anything than is necessary. Whether a smaller niiml)er than eight visiting physician^ would be a check upon any extravagant prescriptions in any respect, may be a question, however, that may be the Trustees must equally trust in the professional character and experience of the medical men whom they appoi t, be they few or many, in the due dispensation of every article which they prescribe for the relief of their patients. All the Trustees can be answerable for in this respect is, in economically caryring out the medical directions, and that, they believe they have honestly and successfully done. There is no charge of nee less or excessive expenditure which can be made against the Trustees. Nor have the Trustees any reason to believe that there is any which can be made against the Medical Officers. The nature of the cases requiring such extraordinary treatment as that which is before referred to, may be altogether different from the cases which prevail in the other hospitals. The Trustees are bound to believe that the gentlemen composing the Toronto Hospital Staff, the best or among the best and ablest in their profession, have acted wisely and well in their own special department. The Trustees believe they have now shown that the ex penditure tor all the articles in the Tabular Statement of the Inspector before mentioned, excepting the particular items of beer and spirits and of medicine and milk, is pro- portionately below that of the Kingston, and is but little above that of the Hamilton Hospital. And from the special cause before mentioned, it is perhaps not higher than it is .even at Hamilton. They have shown that the princi- pal groimd of difference is occasioned by the large outlay for beer and spirits and for milk and medicine, and that for such special expenditrue they are not accountable. But that the medical visitors are alone answerable for it, they u have also shown that the propriety ot that expenditure, they do not and cannot dispute. They depend upon the Medical officers for protection in that respect. And they^ no doubt, can vindicate themselves if their practice or pre- scriptions be called in question. DIKT LISTS. The charge respecting the dietary lists, the Trustees think, have been very properly made by the Inspector. The difficulty is how to deal with the subject. The lists are settled by the Medical Visiting officerj for their respective patients, and they should in general be revised daily. The Medical officers, however, though they should by the present Rules of the Hospital, attend daily, do not do so. Some of them have not attended and do not attend for three or four successive days. The dietaries which they last directed are, nevertheless, continued. The Resident Physi- cian finds it a an exceedingly delicate act to interfere with these prescriptions. It happens, therefore, thai,t in many case the allowances which ought to be altered, are not altered by reason of non- attendance of the Medical Visitors. The Trustees have had occpsion to complain of this, and they endeavoured to remedy it, they suggested it would be better to require only two or three of the Medical Staff to attend daily, and to take upon themselves the entire medical charge of the Hospital, tor some certain period, say for a month. So great a number as eight is not really required to attend at one time. But the whole number would be required to assume duty in rotation, in relief of tneir colleagues, if the plan of the Trustees were adopted. The medical gentlemen, however, with one exception? rejected the suggestion proposed to them. T rule T oft Insj expenditure, d upon the And they^ tice or pre- officerj for general be )uld by the not do so. id for three they last ent Phvsi- irfere with allowances on of non- ' this, and would be tl Staff to re medical say for a to attend quired to les, if the xception> 15 The Trustees believe it may be necessary to alter the rule according to their own judgement. The present system does not work properly. The opinion of the Trustees coincides in this particular with that of the Inspector. It is right, however, to add, that the want of due atten- tion to the diet rolls, does not in any serious degree increase the expense of the Hospital. The Trustees pressed the change upon the Staff as well, for the purpose of securing to many patients in the Hospital a daily visit of his Physician, so as to keep the unnecessary expenditure down. CLEANLINESS AND OEDEB. Then as to the alleged want of cleanliness and order in the wards : — The Trustees must express their surprise, that so serious a charge should have been made. They cannot suppose that the Inspector desired to misrepresent any thing, but they are sure, if he found the Hospital as he says he did, that he must have seen it at a time when from some singu- larly exceptional cause, the general condition of things was not, as it usually is, both cleanly and orderly. There are many ladies who visit the Hospital frequently in the course of the year, and at all hours of the day, who can testify to the cleanliness and order of the wards. They can speak with effect on these matters, for they do not make a hasty nor a single or cursory visit, and they would as housekeepers be especially prompt in discerning such defects as the Inspector has referred to, if they had found them. But not only have these ladies neither seen nor spoken of any want of cleanliness and order, but they have on many occasions expressed themselves as much pleased with the cleanliness and good order which they observed. Many of them have, after their tour of the wards, eaid they were quite surprised at the cleanliness and order obserTcd 16 .ill I '. : throughout, and at the great comfort of and attention paid to the patients, as thej had gone there under the impres- sion, by some unknown means acquired, of matters being very differently conducted. Eeference may be made to these ladies, and their names wjll be given to any one anxious for the truth, by the Lady-Superintendent, if it should be desired. It is extraordinary that there should be any prevailing notion of disorder, neglect and incompetency ruling in the Hospital, when it is considered that it is open every day of the year to all comers, who may get their in- formation by direct personal observation, and whose attend- ance has been urgently invited at different times by the Trustees, for the very pu.pose of seeing how everything is carried on. '''■ would be but common fairness that those who condem should first inform themselves of the facts on which they assume to pronounce judgment, and that a public charity, should not be impeached by what has been very vaguely, though quite safely called " a good many about Toronto." It may be tasked who are the good many ? What did they complain of? To whom and when did they complain? And what was done or what was desired to be done upon their complaint? These matters must not be suggested, they must be spoken plainly out. The administration of a public trust deserves plain and open dealing. The public are entitled to know all about their charities. If they are not well administered speak out, that enquiry may be made, and amendment obtained. The Trustees and other Hospital officials, do not ask and are not entitled to get any improper indulgence or forbear- ance ; their conduct is open to, and they invite, enquiry. It is not fair to resort to suggestion or insinuation on the authority of so intangible a complainant as " a good many about Toronto." i ention paid ihe impres- ■ttera being e made to to any one dent, if it > should be ompetency it is open >t their in- ose attend- es by the 'rything is 10 condem hieh they c charity, vaguely, Toronto." did they omplain ? •ne upon >e spoken lain and 11 about d speak btained. ask and forbear- enquiry. on the many 17 No complaint of any kind has ever been made to or of the Trustees or officials of the Hospital, excepting by the Inspector, and it is not likely that " a good many about Toronto" could have ever made any complaint of the kind without the knowledge of the Truritcos. The omplaint of the Inspector requires, of course, a special con, ideration. He visited the Hospital, as he says, on the 8th of December. That day was on Thursday. The Medical Resident-Super- intendent, who had long been sutferingfroui a severe illness, and who then had not quite recovered from it, was absent for a few days in the country. The Lady Superintendent and an assistant of the Medical Superintendent, were then in the Hospital. The Inspector did not ask for nor did he see the Lady Superintendent, who is the person principally answerable for the cleanliness and order of the wards and for the condition of the bedding. If he had seen her, and shown to her, what it was he he found fault wdtli, it is very probable, and as the Trustees think, it is absolutely certain, that she could have given a most satisfactory account for the state of things, if they were as he represented them. He has said that the bedding in Male Wing ward was far from clean. The sheets and pillow cases in the wards are changed every Saturday morning, though in special cases, they have to be changed every day, and sometimes two or three times in the day ; now the sheets cannot be expected to be quite so clea:: on Thursday after nearly a weeks' use, a? tliey are on Satur- day. Then again the sheets of an hospital must not be tested by those of a private family, nor even by those of a gaol or lunatic asylum or poor house, for in these cases the sheets are not subject to more than the ordinary use of them by occupants of the beds. But in the case of an Hospital, the sheets (and whether it be the newest and best it them or iuc oldest and worst, makes no difference.) arc stained and discolored by all kinds of medical applications, 18 and by blood and nlcoroiH niiittor, find from otlicr canses \,hicli it is manliest ctmnot bo avoided from sick and weekly patients. Tlicsc shoots tliongh thoy may be anc' are carefully cleaned and pui-itied, cannot have their stains or discolorations removed, nor can thev be cast aside — thc^ must continue to be used so loiiu' as thoy are lit for the pur- pose, for the sheeting is a costly item in Hospital ex])endi ture, and if it continues to be used, it is plain, it will not look so well or so clean as an unstained article. Then let it be considered what class of persons many of those in the nosi)ital are. A class that it is dillicult and in some cases impossible to make cleanly or to keep clean, and Avho are not very considerate as to the use they ])Ut any artice to, whether of bedding or otherwise, which is not their own property. These stained sheets and pilloM' case< are apjDro- priated chiefly to what is calleil the lUind Avard, the very ward in which the Inspector said to the Hospital Medical Assistant, who was with him in liis round, that the bedding was not clean, and of which he says in liis Keport that it was far from clean. The ward in which the l)edding was said not to have been clean, was in the Blind ward, not 'oi the Male Wing ward, as he has stated. The IJlind ward is t'le one in which the most uncleanly and most troublesome of the male patients are put, and in which the worst of the bed- ding is used. The bedding, by wever, is clean, all that can be said of it is that it has had more use, and worse use than that which is appropriated for the olier wards. Duriuo- the last vear, not less tliiMi 'JiX) slieets have been rendered unserviceable bv ill usnaiie and stains, ancl have been a'iven up fur bandai>-ef ind at this moment a laro-e supply of new sheeting i^ absolutely re(piircd. If the Inspector had cnc|uirered and are in use ni'dit and (lav. \\\ the Kinu'st(»n Hospital, it Is believed, the coverlids are used only during the day, aiid are removed at night. In Hamilton there are no light coverlids, and the blankets are all gray. Gray l)lankets, as cxqvw one knows, show the eifectof use or ill nsaire mncli less thin white ones, such as are used in Toronto will. If there bo uncleanliness, imputed by the Inspector, in any other ])art!cular, the Trustees are not aware in what it consists or to what it refers. It may be that at times an iros]ntal is not in the same orderly state that it usually is. The same nuiy be said of a private residence. Let the case of a p .vate family be taken, in w'hich one of the members is sick. Is that sick room at all hours of the day in the same orderly condition which commonly distinguish it '. Are there no arrangements to be made — this thing to be smoothed — that thing to be removed — another thing to be put on — chairs, tables to be placed in order — same sweeping or tidying to be done, before a visitor or even the doctor is introdnced i JS^ow apply that to a large ward containing thirty or forty patients, of not the cleanest or most considerate class, and it w'ill be evident that too much mav be occasionlv exacted of the public sick room, with a scanty force of nu'ses, when so much has to be done for the private sick room with its one patient, and all the family lor nurses at command. The wards of the Hospital are open at all times, and to all respectable persons, and they are always in a good and orderly condition and fit for inspection. But if they are not so at any particular time the Trustees are sure the I 'pi 1 1' !" .\'y. ■ ii V I SO occasion of it can bo niul ■will bo tound to be fully capiiblo of the most Btitinfiictctry explanation. TIm^ Trustees now submit to every tliiiilviiii;; and considerate person'ti mind, how far the hasty examination of an imur (n* so, of even tho most careful and competent ofllcial, fan be liila'ii to bo a correct representation of the true condition of aifairs in tho Hospital, opposed to the opinions of those persons whose opportunities for judgiui^ arc so much letter tlian his, or whose duties enable them to form at least as sound an opinion as it is possible for him to do. The Trustees have not yet spoken of the spor>ial fitness of the Resident Medical Suporintendant, Dr. Jlaiiipton, and of the Lady Superintendants for their respective \ laces. They do not think it would be proper to close their observa- tions on this part of the Reitort, Avithout referring to them, as they are the persons most immediately interested in the charges which have been made. These oflielals wonld not tolerate for a moment any- thing -which was contrary to the ruh^s of the house, and cleanliness and order by these rules, and with these officials, are virtues of the first consequences. They too arc always on duty, they are never relieved from it (except in sickness,) night nor day. They have devoted thenis'-'lves to the full and faithful discharge of their heavy duties, and they dis- charge them perfectly. In this recommendation the Trustees must also include the two very able and zealous Medical Assistants, Mr. Reed and Mr. Taylor. It is a matter of concern then to the Trustees that those persons so adcqu.ately performing all that is required of them, and in whom they have the greatest confidence, should be charged without just cause, with neglect in matters of so much consequence as cleanliness and order in an institution of this kind. m 21 SKUVICK OK MKALS. An to tlio serving of tlic luviul. It is cliar};;e(l that it ia iiii[iroper to servo to eacli patient his or her ulltjwaneo for the (lay at one time, instead of lialf of it in tlie niorninf; and llie other half of it in the afternoon. It is, if afiuhjcet of iniportanee at all, one mo.st easily corrected. It is not, however, a merely speculative matter ; it is one rather to he determined hy the practical Avorliing and convenience of the onstom. The patients do not complain, and never have complained of the practice, ai'don speaking with them on the suhj ct but a few days ago, they Bay they do not wish it changed. Some of them say it is hotter as it is, others say it is not of the slightest consequence how it is, that they would as soon have it as it is now delivered, as any other v/ay. Is'ot one of them said the bread was over left, because it had become " dry and unpalatable." The Inspector does not himself say so. He says, " Some patients leave it until it becomes dry and unpalatable." The i)atients, however do not say so. They do not leave it at all. There arc not three pounds of bread carried out of any ward, of twenty -live or thirl y patients, unconsumed, in the whole twenty-four hours. If the patients do not wish any change to bo made in the mode of service, it cannot be objectional, and if they do not leave any of it unconsumed, they cannot leave it because it has become dry and unpalatable. Some patients do not consume their full allowance of bread at times, but when they do not others do it for them, for there are always some in the wards vrho will eat more than their omii share. There is no waste, not a particle of it, and the. c is not a patient who suffers or complains of this alleged objectional method of distributing the bread. The Trustees hope this will be deemed to be a su(licient answer to the charge to Avhicli it applies. Then, it is said by the Inspector, that the meals ijiil: ! f?2 are " better served" in the Kingston and Hamilton Hospitals, than they are in the Toronto Hospital. This the Trustees understand to mean, not that they are too well served in these places, but that they are not sufficiently Avell served in Toronto. This is an imputation of a very vague and unsatislactory nature. The Trustees can only say, tliat there are nurses in the the Toronto Hospital, who were nurses in the Hamilton Hospital; one of them for two years, the other for nine months, and thoj say there is no difference that they know of in the mode of serving the meals in the two places, excepting that in Hamilton, half the allowance of bread is given in the morning and the the other half in the afternoon (and to that the Trustees have already referred,) and that the meat is divided in the kitchen, and carried up in separate plates to the patients, while in Toronto the meat is taken up uncut into the respec- tive wards, and there carved to the different patients. The Trustees suppose that it cannot be of much conse- quence whethor the carving is done down stairs or up stairs. Of the two methods, they believe the up stairs one to be the best, and the most convenient. It is the best because the sup])ly for each patient is warmer, ami it is more convenient because a few large dishes arc more readily handled than eighty or ninety small ones. K, then, the dietaries in these Hospitals is quite as liberal as in the Toronto Hospital, which is some praise, though of the faintest kind, for the Toronto Hospital, in what does the ''better service" in these Hospitals consist? In this Hospital everything is given in the usual manner, and in perfect cleanliness, by persons who are anxious to do everything that is beneficial to the patients. T he p iblic may, at any time, visit the Hospital, and see in wh.it manner the serving-up is done, and judge for themselves. 23 The patients, again, have made no complaint in this respect, and they no doubt are better judges of what is best for them in sucli a case. The Trustees have also been informed tliat tlie Inspector did not see anything but the common gruel allowance served up in the Toronto Hospital at the time of his visit, so that they arc the more surprised at this disadvantageous comparison. The Trustees have been informed that the Inspector asked many of the patients how they w^ere treat- ed, and they informed him, one and all, that they were treated with great kindness and attention, and that they had no complaint to make. If so, why were tlie.-;e facts not communicated as to this Hospital as well as with res- pect to the Hamilton Hospital ? Why, when so much has been said against the Toronto Hospital, was that which was favorable to it not told too ? This mode of reporting is not satisfactory. HOSPITAL TKOPERTY. The Report, in another respect, too, is not accurately made. It is not correct in its account and disposition ot the property of this Hospital. And the account which is given of it is expressed, as in other instances, in a depre ciatory and unfriendly manner. It is said the Hospital was endowed " with 386 acros of land in the east of the " City. The site of the Old Hospital containing six acres, " and six acres of land west of Church, on Adelaide, Street, " with other valuable lots." " The income received from property belonging to the " Hospital last year amounted to 85,20J:. The income " derived from this source is all that is left of the mafjnifi- " cent endowment of 1819." Now, one acre of the six acres of land west of Chui'cli Street, on Adelaide Street, though granted to the Hospital, was taken from it again in 1825, by the Crown, and given ^' I't ivm 24 to St. James's Cliurcli, which property the Trustees after- wards tried to recover, but failed to do so. The facts were fuUv reported in G Grant 485, in Chancery, and in appeal 7 Grant 130, and in the Journals of the House >f Assembly of U. C. of 1830-1840, vol. 1, part 1, fol. 313. This accounts for the loss of a very valuable portion of the property. The Trustees are not aware of any other valuable lots which were granted to • the Hospital than those named. There was, however, one valuable lot grant- ed in 1835, containing on acre of land, on the south side of King street and west corner of York Street. A very large portion of the 38G acres of land at the east end of the City, and the whole of the 5 acres of the block on Adelaide Street, were disposed of manv years ago, when property was not of much value. So it cannot be assumed that what would, if held at the present time, be a magnificent endowment, can now, with the present demand upon the fund, and the small sum got for so much of it in former times, be properly described as a "Magnificent Endow- ment." It certainly was so at the time of the grant, and it was thought it would have continued to be such for all time to come. But the income of $5,204 is not all that is left of this Endowment. The Trustees have the Hospital building, and block on wdiich it stands, less the Debenture debt of $56,000 against it. And they have a large undis- posed portion of the Old Hospital block, north of Kmg Street and west of John street ; and they have the capital fund, in the form of real estate, which represents the pro- duct of the $5, 1 04 — which is really worth more than the product capitalized, though more cannot be procured for it at the present time. When the leases of such property come to be renewed, much more than the present yield for it will be obtained. The Trustees estimate the present value of their property, over and above their liabilities, at the sum of $154,000, which is a very different account of ie3 after- cts were n appeal Lssemblj )rtion of ii.y other tal than ot grant- side of ry large ihe City, Adelaide property ned that ^nificent ipon the n former Endow- it, and it 1 for all all that Hospital !benture e undis- 3f King s capital he pro- lan the id for it roperty ield for present ties, at )unt of 25 the " Endowment" referred to in terms which indicate it as almost dissipated, according to the Report of the In- spector. All that remained in 1840 of the 38G acres was about $21,000, representing all that was then outstanding and unpaid on account of sales made before that time, and an unsold portion which did not then exceed 25 acres. That unsold portion is still possessed by the Hospital. It has all been leased, and is yielding rent, though not a very large amount. The Report of the Committee at that time stated " that the principal fund has been very seriously intrenched upon, and if a similar system is pursued, in a few years the whole property will be entirely exhausted." But a similar system has not been pursued. All that did remain of the Endowment at that time remains still. It will not be parted with, but will be let on lease on tenns beneficial to the Trust. The fund would, however, have been much larger, if so great an expenditure had not been made on the present Hospital. It was, and yet is, larger than was or is required. The Trustees were providing too bountifully before the time. But let it not be supposed that the building will not be required, capacious as it is. Nor let it be supposed that the price of it has been thrown away. The building repre- sents, in value, the cost of its erection. The rapidity in the growth of the City, and oi the surrounding country,, will yet (and within the present generation) tax its capacity to the utmost to provide for the necessities of the class for which it was founded. "When that time arrives, the fund which yields now only $5,104 wiM, with the letting of the- vacant property still on hand, provide a rental three or four fold the amount of the present income, and that sum will enlarge with every successive renewal of lease. It cannot then be said that a fund which has erected so magnificent a building, and which consists of so large and so improving 26 a rental, is only $5,104-, and is all that '" is left of the mag- nificent endowment of 1819." The ohservation implies waste, miscondncf and misman- agement of the Trust property. The principal of the fund was necessarily used for the purposes of the Hospital before 1840, as the Report of the Committee before referred to shows. Since that lime the fund has been carefullo pre- served and enlarged. The observation, too, made in this oif-hand mannet, may reflect on the present Trustees, who have been in office not yet three years, and one of them but one year — none of whom have had any hand in the diminution of the Trust. If it was any part of the Inspector's duty to exclaim against the misappropriation of the Hospital Fund, he sliouid have called for an account of the property granted to the Hospital, and of its dispobition, and he would have spoken then with authority and effect. The following memorandum will show generally in what manner the means of the Trust have been used in the building of the Hospital : The cost of the erection of the Hospital has been, to date $95,805 54 Interest on Debentures 52 398 00 Debentures redeemed s 000 00 $156,203 54 To meet this expenditure there has been : Proceeds of Debentures ($64,000) $60,698 00 Sale of Bank Stock 15 o54 00 Received on account of sales 14 560 00 $90,312 00 "Which leaves a balance ot $65 891 54 Which has been paid out of the ordinary resources of the Institution. 27 o iisman- jio fund before frred to '^o pre- 't, may ce not one of 'I'nst. |xclaim id, he fi'anted iiave I what n the )5 54 )8 00 '0 00 3 54 I 00 : 00 00 00 54 he The Trustees have also made advantageous purchases of property, which yield profitable returns; and they have also erected several houses, which are all under lease. The Trustees feel aggrieved by the Report of the In- spector in the parts of it to which they have referred. They have answered the charge of extravagance which he properly made against them upon the erroneous figures which were given to him. And they hope, as they believe, they have fully established their economical management in all matters on which they can exercise their own inde- pendent judgement. They believe also that they have satisfactorily answered the other charges, objections and observations which have been unjustly made against them, and against the Hospital which they represent ; charges which must oi)erate greatly to the injury of the institution, unless they are promptly and eflfectually aiiSwered. The Trustees ha\ e been obliged to meet these charges. They desired to do no more than to meet them. They have no wish to make any unjust comparisons, nor to reflect unnecessarily on any one. Their purpose has been defen- sive merely. The public had the right to require of them, as representatives of so important a charity, some explana- tion by way of answer to the serious charges which have been laid officially against them, or that they should sur- render the Trust which, it is imputed, they have not fitly administered. By order of the Board. J. W. Brent, Secretary. Committee Room, Toronto, 14th Jan., 1871. The Trustees regret they have not been able to publisli their answer at an earlier day.