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The joint resolution of the Committee on Foreign Relations, proposing to give notice to Great Britain of the intention of this Government to anniU the treaty for the joint occupation of the Oregon territory, and the resolu- tions of Messrs. Hannegan, Calhoun, and Crittenden, having relation, to the same subject, coming up as the special order — Mr. JOHN M. CLAYTON, of Delaware, rose to address the committee, but wished, before he proceeded, that the Secretary would read first the amendment moved by the gentleman from Ohio, (Mr. Allen,) and referred by the Senate to the Committee on Foieign Relations. It was read accordingly, as follows : • A joint resolution to annul and abrogate tlie convention of the sixth day of August, one thoosand eight hundred and twenty-seven, between the United States of America and Ureat Britain, rela- tive to the country westward of the Stony or Kocky Mountains. Resolved by the Senate and Huun,' of Rfvresentatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled. That, in virtue of the second article of the convention of the sixth of August, •one thousand eight hundred and twenty-seven, between the United States of America and Great Britain, relative to the country westward of the Stony or Rocky Mountains, the United States of America do now think fit to annul and abrogate that convention, and the said convention is hereby accordingly entirely annulled and abrogated ; Provided, That this resolution shall take effect after the expiration of the term of twelve months from the day on which due notice shall have been givento Great Britain of the passage of this resolution. And the President of the United States is hereby authorized and required to give such notice, and also at the expiration of said oonventioo to issue his proclamation setting forth that fact. Mr. C. then requested that the amendment reported from the Committee on Foreign Relations be next read. . . It was read accordingly, as follows : Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the Unitid Stales of America in ■Congress assembled, That the President of the United States be, and he is hereby, advised to give, fotthwitb) notice to the Govemaient of Great Britain that the Government of the Uhited States will, in virtue of the second article of the convention of the sixth of August, Anno Domini eigh- teen hundred and twenty-seven, between the United States and Great Britain, relative to the Oregon territory, and afler the expiration of twelve months from the day on which such notice shall have been received by the Government of Great Britain, aimul and abrogate that convention. Mr. Crittenden then rose and moved the resolutions heretofore sub- mitted by hini, in the form of a substitute, or ameiidment to the amend- ment of the committee, and asked that they be read. They were read accordingly, as follows: Whereas, by the convention concluded on the 30th day of October, 1818, between the United .States of America and the King of the United Kingdom oJ Great Britain and Ireland, for the period ■of ten years, and afterwards indefinitely extended and continued in force by another convention of the same parties, concluded the 6th day of August, 1887, it was agreed that any country that may be claimed by either party on the northwest coast of America, westward of the Stony or Rocky Mountains, now conunonly called the Oregon territory, should, together with its harbors, bays, ai^d Vfff^t iuid the navigation of all rivers within the some, be "free and oj^n" to the veiteliL ir)B2'j!* citizens, fiiiJ sulyfcts, of the two Powers, but without prejui'.icf to any ehiiin which either of the parties ini'j-ht have to any part of >!aiil country ; and witli lliis further provision in tiie socoMd article of the saij convention of the 6th August, 1827, Ihiit ciltier I'urty niiglit abrogate and annul said convention on giving dui' notice of twelve months to the other contracting party: ' And whereas it has now lietoinc desiralile that the reupcctive claims of the United States ond Great Britain should he delhiiteiy settled, and tliat said territory may no longer than need be re- main sul)ject to the evil consequences of the divided allejiiaiice of its American and Uritish popula- tion, and of the confusion and conflict of national jurisdictions, dangerous to the cherished peace and good understanding of the two countries: With a view, therefore, that steps he taken for the abrogation of the said convention of the 6th August, 1827, in the mode presciibcd in its 2d article, and that the attention of the Governments of both countries may be the more e.irncstly and iam\ediately directed to renewed eil'orls for tlic set- tlement of all their ditlercnces and disputes in nvpect to said territory : Be it resolved In/ ilie Seiate u/id Hunsn of liiipnsentaliven of the Unittd Stute.i of America in Congresn amemLltd, 'I'hat the I'rcsident of the United States be, and he is hereby, authorized, at his discretion, to fiive to t!ie Uritish Government the notice rci|uirei1 by its Si^iid 2d article for the abrogation of the said convention of life 6th of August, 1827 : Provided, /loiuever, That in order to afford ampler time and opportunity for the amicable settlement and adjustment of all their differ- ences and disputes in respect to said territory, said notice ought not to be given till after the close of the present session of Congress. Mr. J. M. CLAYTON then addressed the Senate: Two distinct propositions (said he) have been submitted to the Senate, for giving notice to the Government of Great Britain tlifit the convention provid- ing for the joint occupation of the territory of Oregon sliali ct^ase at the ter- mination of twelve months from the giving of such notice. There has alsa been offered — though it is not now regularly before the Senate, having been referred to the Committee on Foreign Uelations, who have it still before them — another proposition, which, on that account, is not now a proper sub- ject of discussion : it is the resolution adopted on the same subject by the House of Representatives. The two resolutions now before the Senate difler from each other in these respects. That reported from the Committee on For- eign Relations proposes to give the notice in question by authority of the Congress of the United States, witiiout conferring on the President any dis- cretion in the matter ; it takes the whole responsibility of the measure j it proceeds on the assumption that Congress has the sole authority and con- sequent responsibility of giving this notice recommended by the Executive. The other proposition, now moved by my honorable friend from Kentucky, in the form of an amendment to the amendment of the committee, proposes to throw the responsibility of this measure, which the President has recom- mended to Congress, on the President himself; it confers on him the authority to give this notice, after the present session of Congress, if he, under all the circumstances, shall then see it most expedient. It does not, at the same time, deny his right to withhold the notice, if, from what may have occurred since the communication of his recommendation to Congress, it shall appear to him most wise that such notice should not be given. The two propositions differ also in another and a very important respect. The latter holds out, if not expressly, at least by the clearest implication, that all negotiations between the United States and Great Britain ought not now to be held as finally closed, and amounts to a recommendation that the Executive shall continue the existing negotiations with a view ta the peaceable adjustment of the conflicting claims of the two Governments. Between the two, I can have no hesitation in saying that I prefer that offered by the honorable Senator from Kentucky. The other proposes in effect that notice shall be given immediately, and leaves the Presi- dent no discretion in the case. It assumes that Congress are so thoroughly acquainted with tlie wlioie subject, and every thing that can by possibility have any bearing upon it, that, no matter what may have occurred al- ready, or what may or shall occur hereafter, the notice must be given. To this proposition I have insuperable objections ; I cannot consent to it. But it is due to myself that I should say that my opposition to it springs from no factions spirit ; I know no party leeling on £?reat questions like this, which touch the foreign relations of my country, . I never have entered as a party man on the ronsidoration of questions which vitally alfect those relations, nor have those who are in the habit of acting politi- cally with me here. Honorable Senators must well recollect the course we all took on the occasion of the setllenipnt of our Northeastern boundary. Senators on neither side of this Chamber acted on that occasion as party men. The subji^ct was not discussed as a party measure. On the contrary, after a prolonged discussion of its merits, we then came to a unanimous result, and presented to England an undivided front. The same thing happened on another occasion, when I enjoyed the honor of a seat upon this floor : when we were upon the eve of a war with France, because the French Governinent refused to pay us the twenty-five millions agreed to by her in Mr. Rives's treaty. There wa-? no party division on that occasion. An honorable Senator from Kentucky, now no longer a member of this body, but then chairman of the Committee on Foreign Relations, drew up and submitted to the Senate a report, at the close of which was a resolution which met the unanimous approbation of all the members of this body. At that time we resolved, one and all, to stand by our country, and to assert our own rights. I say therefon^ again, that there has been no occasion on which I have known this Senate sink itself so low as to divide into mere parties ax\d fac- tions on any great question involving the foreign relations of this country. I trust in God we shall witness no such division now. That we shall all perfectly agree respecting any proposition which may be submitted on this Oregon controversy, is not probable, perhaps scarcely possible. Each. Senator, acting on his own iridependent personal conviction of duty, will press his own views of what ought to be the public policy. But, though we may not be able to find one common platform on which we all can stand, yet I do suppose there is not a Senator here who will cast liis vote, either directly or indirectly, on a purely party ground. For my own part, I here declare, with the utmost frankness, that, whatever may be my opinion in regard to the negotiatio.is of the Executive department on this question of Oregon, and of the manner in which those negotiations have been con- ducted — whatever may be my estimate of the policy of the President on this wliole subject, yet, as a member of the United States Senate, and as a patriot, I mean to stand by him, so far as I can consistently with principle and honor. He has recommended to us to give to Great Britain this notice — and he makes that recommendation on his own responsibility : yet, at the same time, he gives us not the slightest intimation that he entertains the opinion that the notice will be productive of any thing like war, or that it will be followed by any measures of a hostile character on the part of England. He has not warned us by the slightest word that war will be likely to re- sult from this measure, or any other which he recommends to our adoption ; and, if I can form any judgment from the actions of this Administration, there can be no war; for the President, wliile he recommends this notice^ does not recommend that the annual appropriations shall be increased by a single dollar; on the contrary, the annnal estimates are to be reduced, and have been. And, further, lie rerommends a reduction in the tariil of duties. There is no proposal in his message for any thing like an increase of revenue by raising the duties on imports, or in any other mode. Again : what has been tlie conduct of those gentlemen associated with him in his counsels, whose appropriate and official duty it would be to re- commend the adoption of measines for the national defence ? The Secre- taries of War and ot' the Navy present no propositions having in view to prepare the nation for war. It is true that, after the resolution introduced by the Senator from Michigan (Mr. Cass) Iiad been adopted by this body, the chairman of the Committee on Naval Affairs did report one measure •which went to increase the navy by the addition of three frigates, five sloops of war, and one or two brigs and schooners ; yet, at the same lime, the report was accompanied by a letter from the Secretary of the Navy, declaring that this had not been recommended as a war measure at all, but merely as providing a necessary increase in our marine force, the better to protect the commerce of the country. The idea I got from his letter was,, that, in the judgment of the Secretary, the proposed increase of the navy was required, and ought to be made, supposing there would be no war. It was rendered necessary to extend an adequate protection to our increased and growing commerce. To what other sources, then, ought we to look ? Who are they who we might naturally expect ought to excite the Legislature to make prepara- tions for war, if war were apprehended ? Whose duty is it to give us the alarm? From the President, from the Heads of Department, from the chairmen of standing committees, we have received no intimation of dan- ger, and the leading friends of the Administration on this floor give us here no more than the authorities have done. We are in the situation so justly described by the Senator from Michi- gan, (Mr. Cass.) We are totally unprotected, entirely open and uncovered in case of a hostile attack from without. Our fortifications are in a state of dilapidation; or, if otherwise, we are without any in the very positions where they would be most needed should a war come upon us. The 'Senator from Florida (Mr. Westcott) and the Senator from Michigan (Mr. Cass) have described our situation in this respect most correctly. And I here render my thanks to the Senator from Florida especially for so fully and so truly representing the undefended position of an important portion of my country. There is now no adequate protection for the city of Philadelphia, the second city, in population and wealth, in the Union. There is nothing in the shape of a fortification between Wilmington and the Capes of Delaware. There is in the Delaware bay what has been nominated a breakwater harbor, erected at vast expense by the Gov- ernment, for the protection of commerce, which harbor is entirely with- out defence. This harbor furnishes a safe haven for vessels taking refuge in it, and would furnish such a haven for any portion of the British navy that might enter that bay incase of war. It would be to them a most valuable acquisition ; for, from that point, they could strike . New , York, and all the most important cities on our coast, as well as utterly lay waste and demolish the towns on the banks of the Delaware *. this notice^ :reased by e reduced, ho tarifl of an increase 3de. iated witli d be to re- The Secre- in view to introduced this body, le measure gates, five sanne time, tlie Navy, 3 at all, but le better to letter was,, f the navy o war. It : increased ly who we :e prepara- tive us the , from tlie on of dan- ve us here om Michi- uncovered in a state Y positions us. The Michigan correctly. ally for so important or the city he Union. ngton and has been the Gov- ely with- ils taking on of the mid be to luld strike is well as Delaware itself. Such is our present condition in reference to defence. Yet, under this state of circumstances,, and with the fact before their eyes that we pos- sess a commercial maruie almost if not quite equal to the commercial marine of England herself, which is now exposed defenceless to the depre- dations of any enemy by sea, not one member of the Administration has apprized us that there exists the slightest danger of a war. I look to these things as much more significant of what is to. happen than any thing I find in the published correspondence between our Secre- tary and the British Envoy, Were I, indeed, to judge from the tenor of that correspondence, so far as it has been communicated to us by the Ex- ecutive, I should say that there did exist very imminent danger of war ; because I confess that 1 do not perceive on what ground, as there stated, the existing controversy will be peaceably settled. We have refused utterly all arbitration, either as to boundary or title. We have refused a reference of the question in dispute, not merely to crowned heads, but to a mixed commission, or a board composed of private citizens. Nearly every proposition that looks toward a peaceful settlement of the dispute has proceeded from England ; and, though I have heard it asserted that the tone of the British press before the departure of the last steamer was pacific, yet it can hardly have escaped the notice of any one, that the reason given for this was the hope, and perhaps the belief in the minds of many, that this Government would be willing to sacrifice our own tariff and the protection of our own manufacturing industry, and that we should enter into a commercial treaty of some sort with England with reference to that subject. I will here take occasion to say that, if any man puts his hope of peace on such a foundation as that, he will find himself mistaken. I say that, if I looked only at the diplomatic correspondence between the ollicial functionaries of the two Governments, I should certainly conclude that there was imminent danger of war ; but looking, as I do, at the con- duct of the Administration and its friends, I am bound to say, as I do now say, here in my place, that I cannot apprehend there will beany war. Can any than suppose that the President of the United States would bring this nation to the very verge of war with one of the most powerful nations of the world, without giving to Congress the least intimation that we were in irriminenl danger of such an issue ? To suppose such a thing is impossible. I differ on many important points from the present Administration of this Government, and r did not contribute my aid to put the existing Chief Ma- gistrate into power; but I do not so far distrust the President's patriotism and integrity <.s to suppose that he would harbor the idea of pujtting the country into the very attitude of war, while refusing to the Legislature the slightest intimation of its approach, and while deliberately withholding from the co-ordinate branches of the Goyernraent all propositions or sug- gestions for the national defence. r do not hold that the giving of the notice recominended will teiid to war. The President, under all the circumstances of the CEUse, asks from us the po wef to give such notice. He stand'" '. ^n official position where he has the fullest. opportunity to know all the benefits, as \vel.l as all. the probable evils, likely to flow from such a measure. He, has all the negoi- tia'tipn under his eye, and has a knorledge of facts which I.'have not. He is,.or.may be, in daily communication with the British Minister^ I am not. The people have giveti these great responsibilities to hinij andl.am not the mail to tako lliem from Iiini. Ho asks power to give tliis notice, and I, for one, am willing to intrust him with that power. I would say to the Pres- ident, " You have the means of knowing all the hearings and probable consequences of tlie measure yon recommend ; you liave the power in your hands, and at your peril exerciae that power, under the responsibilities you bear." I would say this ti) the President, but I would pass no reso- lution conipeMng him to give ihc notice. I will vote for a resolution giv- ing him the discretion to ijive it, or not to give it, as he thinks best, but I will go no further. I hold thut the President of the United States has it in his power, (I do not say he has the right,) if to him it seems best, to bring on ti war with Eng- land; for, thouE;h the ("onstiiution has reserved to Congress ulone the power officially to declare war, ynt, if il"> President does so control our diplomatic correspondence with Great Britan. as to bilig on a war, it does not de- pend upon any action oi ours to say that war shall not come. Congress, certainly, has done nothing to bring on that event; if there is any danger of it, it has not been incurred from the action of Congress. The whole action, thus far, litis been confined to the Executive ; but he may go ■^tili further. lie may, (as others before him in like circumstances have done,) without consulting Congress, permit actual hostilities to take place. We cannot shut our eyes to the fact, that it is in the power of the President to prpvolcc a war, if he is so disposed. If he does, I shall deeply deplore it; but the fiuilt will not rest on my head, or on the heads of those who act politically with inc. The majority of this nation have intrusted him with power, and they are responsible. My own course on this lloor, on this question, shall he to lead our coun- cils, so far as is in my power, to whatever will contribute to an honorable peace between the two nations. 1 avow myself a friend to peace — to an honorable peace. I trust and hope — nay, I believe — that the President of the United States intends there shall be no war, but desires an honorable peace. I will not so far reflect upon him as to suppose he desires a war with Great Britain. I shall not at this lime go into any discufeion of our title to the territory of Oregon. I shall withhold that for another place. If it shall please the Senate to go into Executive session, I shall be free to declare my sentiments there ; but I hold it highly improper to carry on such a discussion here, and consider it as going to prejudge the action of the Senate, when a treaty shall come before us, provided the President shall negotiate one. I will not now say that uur boundary ought to he the parallel of 19°, or llie parallel of 54" 40'; or any other parallel. Let him decide that poinr, and make his treaty in such a manner as shall best please himself and his associates in power, and then I will deliver my sentiments upon such treaty when it shall be presented. On a delicate subject of this character I do not hold it to be my duty at present to speak. I trust that whatever discussion may take place here on the general subject, Senators, knowing the psssibility, and even the probability, that a treaty in some shape may come before them, will forbear to express any definite opinion as to our title to any part or the whole of Orpgon. But the honorable gentleman from Ohio over the \v,\y 'Mr. Allen) told the Senate that he considered us as standing commili J ior the " whole of Oregon." How so ? By a certain resolution passed at C.\k: Baltimore Con- 9 :c,and I, for to the Pres- d probable e power iu Jonsibilities iss no reso- Dliition giv- best, but I ur, (I do not • with Eng- i lis. There I indignant to s been openly 3are not go to ion reading a by a leading e head of the I .ally be sup- e Senate, and the President men on reaii- rselves in the ding a speech ,and applied only asserted re- do lese poor re) thai I approve sen- 3 tliat, if that constitute, at that any one use the feel- ir. Nor do I jf the United )le portion of 0, sir; that is rican people le, they never an submit to nt they have 13 no desire, by inrult and abuse, to inflame England into a war. Had they an opportunity of expressing to that gentleman their real sentiments, I am '.veil assured that nine-tenths of their luunber would tell him they utterly disown aiid disapprove of all such attempts to excite the two nations to war. The Senator tells us, and tells England, that she dare not go to war with us. Well, sir; and the moment it shall be believed in England that that is the sentiment of the American Congress, what will be the result? Every British heart will throb with one united feeling. Every Englishman, every Irishman, every Scotchman, will rally to the assistance of iiis Gov- ernment. Only induce them to believti that we think that orthem,and Avar will be inevitable. I do not belong to that class of men whom the Senator has described as seeking to depreciate their own country, and to exalt the character and trength of England, or of any other foreign Power; but I liold it to be my duty, as a sentinel placed on this post, to tell this Senate and this nation that we are not in a condition, either in a military or a naval point of view, to meet the danger of a war if it should come. If we were in danger of a Avar with France, I should hold it equally my duty to de- clare what the real posture of the country actually was. This, is not depreciating the power of my country ; it is but Avarning my cou'itry of what her duty is. Was it a very friendly part in the Senator froai Ohio to condemn the whole speech of the Senator from Michigan, (Mr. Cass?) That honorable Senator thought that it belonged to iiim as his public duty to inform the Senate and the country, that we are in danger of Avar, and ought to arm the nation to meet it; that, in the present condition of our army and navy, they were an insufficient defence for the protection of our lational interests ; and that duty he discharged with all. his energy. We unanimously voted that the appropriate committees should inquire into ;he facts. No Avise nation Avill go into a contest either overrating its own ngth or underrating the strength of its enemy. More battles have been lost and more wars have proved disastrous from this caiise than from almost any other. I entirely concur with the views Avhich the Senators from Michigan and Florida have expressed on this subject. They are not to be de- nounced as alarmists for honestly describing our defenceless condition. From the high places they occupy, they have exposed the naked and un- guarded condition of their coimtry, and, so doing, they were strictly in the path of their duty, and are entitled to its thanks. The honorable Senator frotrj Ohio tells us that England dare not go to war vith us, because she is exceedingly weak — so Aveak that she cannot defend herself; and this because her navy has lately lost that supremacy Avhioh le admits that it formerly enjoyed. He says it is not now as powerful as was in 1802 and 1803. In this sentiment I entirely differ from the Sen- itor, and I Avnil make an effort to show that he is mistaken. So far from [linking that the naval power of Great Britain is less now than it was in 1802, 1 think, on the contrary, that at this hour it is greater than it ever vas before. [Mr. Allen here rose to explain. What he had said was, that the naval power of Great Britain Avas.less, relatively to the naval power of the world*, Qow than in 1802 — that it bore then a greater proportion to the united laval power of all other nations than it did now.] 14 Mr. Clayton resumed. This position is still more objectionable thati the other, as I shall endeavor to shovy. I have in my hand some statistics, which have been carefully collected from the best authorities. Here Mr... C. entered into the details of the following statement : Crmmcrcial Vessels of Number Number ■ Countries. tonnage. war of all classes. of guns. 16,242 of men. ' Remarks. • • England - 2,420,759 671 40,000 98 steamers. Frajice - - 625,769 348 8,816 29,095 61 steamers. United States - 2,417,002 76 2,358 8,724 5 steamers. Russia - 239,000 226 10,394 25,000 8 steamers, many cpntracteJ for. Denmark 95,375 73 754, at least. 67 gunboats. ■Swedifn - 118,125 397 1,407 at least. 2 steamers and 377 gunboats. Holland • 214,284 132. 1,544 - 132 gunboats. ■ • . Tgrkcy - - 31 1,902 3 stcaiQers, Egypt - ^ 20 1,460 England has 610 guns to each 100,000 tons of commerce. France 1,030 do do 100,000 do. United States lUO do do 100,000 do. Russia 3,467 do d.> 100,000 do. ' ' ,' Denmark 877 do do 100,000 do. ■• • Sweden 703 do do 100,000 do. Holland 777 do . do 100,000 do. Having accompanied the items of the above table with appropriate re- marks in explanation, Mr. C. proceeded to say: And now what are the results collected from these authentic materials ? I wish the Senate and the country to be well acquainted with them, in order that that country may understand the true state of things; that it may be aware of its own weakness, and thus be induced to awake to its duty of self-defence. For tlie protection of every hundred thou- sand tons of our commercial wealth we have 100 guns ; but England has ■640; France has 1,030; Russia has 3,407; Denmark has 877; Sweden 703, and Holland 777. In other words, England has seven times as many guns as we to defend the same amount of commerce ; France has ten times as many ; Russia has thirty-five, times ais many ; Denmark eight times, Sweden «ej;ert times, and Holland eight times as many. Englaqd hf o. /e thus see, mounted nearly as many giins for her defence as all the rest of the civilized world, ourselves included ; and she is about seven times as well pi'otected in this respect as we are. Indeed, it would seem that every other civilized nation yields her own great interests not less than seven times as much protection as we give to ours. France, foir example^ has but about one-fourth of our commerce, while we have about one-fourth of her navy. Our commerciar marine, compared with that of Russia, is as ten to .one, while her naval power, compared with ours, is about as five to one. If the Senator is desirous of ascettainitig the comparative strength, of England, as compared with that of the rest of the world, he has here the means of doing it. He will find, on that examination, that l^ngland is guarded at every point; that her military marine is greater at this time than it eve ourselves { success, th And no^ strength, o I have so the moM rt If we have we ought I ready to m tion wheth own boson The peo dence in th this questi( arises from country, defence of the Senatoi bravery, o do not undi lieve that i President's whether w language a council rou as to his rij representee Sir, whi any people well know indisputabl in the worl upon to de< take heed! If we art ever was fi shall all str lable than f collected lils of the l& ;■•♦.,•, mUacteJ for. gunboats. ropriate re- materials ? iih them, in lings ; that to awake dred thou- Ingland has 7; Sweden ;es as many as ten times ight times, iqd hf o, /e the rest of ^en times as a that every than seven iple^ has but aurth of her is as ten to ve to one. strength of las here the j^ngland is It this time than it ever was before since she has beena nation. If we could choose for ourselves a period the most favorable for attacking her with a prospect of success, this would be the very *rorst for us we could select. And now let it not be supposed that I seek to deprqciate our own strength, or to exaggerate hers. I have not taken the largest statements I have seen of the force of Great Britain, but adopted those which vfar-e the most reliable, I hold, in the language of Hemmings, that "To broach a war, and not to 1)6 assur'd ' > Of certain means to make a fair defence, Howe'er the cause be right, may justly seem A wilful madness." If we have a clear and indisputable right to the whole territory of Oregon, we ought to select for its assertion and maintenance a period when we are: ready to maintain it. Without further expressing any opinion oji the ques- tion whether we are ready now, I leave every Senator to decide it in his own bosom, for himself. The people of the United States have not manifested any want of confi- dence in the Executive; they have not formed themselves into parties on this question; the difference among thera, so far as any difference exists, arises from an honest difference of opinion as to the foreign relations of the country. I believe that my countrymen are as ready to go to war for the defence of their just rights as any people on the face of the earth. All that the Senator from Ohio said, and all that he can say in regard to their bravery, or their ability to protect themselves, I heartily concur with. I do t»ot underrate their prowess in battle — far, very far, from it. But I b'?- ieve that if they could all be gat»liered together in one mass in front of the President's mansion, knowing that lie has the power to decide the question whether we shall have war or peace, they would address him in some such anguage as was used by the conqueror of Agincourt, when he called his council round him, and asked them to give him their honest, sincere opinion to his right to go to war with France. On that solemn occasion he is represented by the greatest of our dramatic poets as saying to them ; "God forbid. That you should fashion, wrest, or bow your reading, Or nicely charge your understanding soul VVi^h opening titles uiiscreate, whose right Suits not in native colors with the truth; ■ For God doth know how many, now in health, Shall drop their blood in approttation Of-what your wisdom shall incite us to: ' • j. Therefore take heed how you impawn our persons, W',' . How you awake the sleeping sword of war; ' . '. We charge .yo>* in the name of God, take heed .'" , Sir, while I aditiit, nay, insist, that my countrymen are as brave as any people on earth, and as prompt U) vuidicate their rights; and while I well know that, if you convince thetn thar their title to Oregon is clear and indisputable, they will be as ready and as able to maintain it as any nation in the world can be, I would charge this Senate also, should they be called upon to decide upon the question of war or peace, in the name of God, to take heed! . * ' ' ' ;.^ .-;;-• .•.'^•';'\.V-*'- ; If we are to have" a war with England, an empire more pdw^^^isrftil than ever was Rome in her palmiest days, let us have a- just cause: then we shall allstfike together, and I have no doubts or fears as to the issue. But first let the people, first let us ourselves, be convinced that we are in the right. Do not let us go to battle in a bad cause ; in one that is righteous I know that we can fight as well as any people that ever lived. If this matter must come to a war, the responsibility will rest on the head of the President of the United States and his Cabinet; and it will be, as has truly been observed, such a war as the world never yet saw. It will be "the carnival of death, the vintage ol the grave." It will be a war be- tween men who profess to be Christians ; with a people allied (o ourselves in feeling more than all the nations of the world ; a people far advanced before all mankind in intelligence and the arts and improvements of civil- ized life; a nation which approximates more than any other to our own principles of free government; a people who "know their rights, and, knowing, dare maintain them ;" a people skilful in war, brave to a proverb, and amply supplied with all the means and sinews of war. If we go to war with this people about our title to all Oregon, at this time, the responsibility will not rest on me. Not on me — not on me or mine, oh God ! let any portion of the guilt or the sin of such a war ever be found ! are in the righteous I on the head II be, as has It will be a war be- ourselves r advanced Its of civil- o our own rights, and, a proverb, on, at this on me or a war ever