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Bedard, Neilson, Louis Bourdages, Duval, Labrie and Heney. Mr. Bedard in the Chair: YOUR COMMITEEE appointed to take into consideration and Report their opinions and observations on all questions which might arise in the House and be referred to them, relating to Grievances and Petitions of Grie- vances, and to whom were referred the Petitions of divers Inhabitants of the , City of Montreal, complaining of the conduct of James Stuart Esquire, Attor. ney General of this Province, presented to the House on the eighteenth March one thousand eight hundred and thirty, and the Report of the Special Committee thereon, of the twentieth day of the said month of March ; and other references : have agreed to the following Report which they have the honor of submitting to your Honourable House. REPORT of Youi "Committee upon the Petition of divers Inhabitants of the City of Montreal, complaining of the conduct of James Stuart, Esquire, At- torney General for this Province. Your Committee, sensible of the importance attached to the complaints p 3^. ferred by that Petition, against a high Public Functionary, have given them i le most mature consideration ; and it now becomes the duty of Your Committee state to your Honorable House, that the facts that have given rise to those cc plaints, and of which the greater part being facts of public notoriety, forme ^ portion of the investigation made by a Committee of this House in 1829, hi • been anew verified before your Committee. It has been proved that, without having any regard to the injustice of subje ing individuals, before their trial to a longer detention than that to which tl would have been sentenced upon being convicted of the crimes of which tl were accused ; without fearing to degrade tiie office he filled in the eyes of public, by the suspicion which must fall upon him, of having been instigated in performance of his duty by motives of self-interest of a pecuniary nature, insteac motives of justice j the Attorney General has, for several years, persisted in prose ting before the Superior Criminal Courts of the District of Montreal, persons accu: of minor offences, for which, in conformity with the practice followed atQueb t- # (:* > ' r-i mm ^ •^r.. TSIE^-, ./^■J^t^-r- SECOND RAPPORT DU Comite des Griefs. '■^^ CHAMBRE D'ASSEMBLE'E, CHAMBRE DE COMITE, Mercredi, 16 Mars 1831. Preseks : — MM. Bedard, JVeilson^ Louis Bourdages, Duval, Labrie, Heney. Mr. Bedard aufauteuil. VOTRE COMITE' noinm^ pour prendre en consid<;ration et faire rapport de ses opinions et de ses observations sur toutes les questions qui pourraient s'deverdans la chambre et qui pourraient lui etre r^f6rees, relativement aux griefs et aux petitions contenant des griefs^ et auquel avaient ^t^ r^fi6r6s la peti- tion de divers habitans de la cit ■■ vilized country, they cannot disguise from themselves that the state of degrac tion to which the Attorney General has reduced that important portion oft Government of this Province, must infallibly produce the most disastrous effec if they be not speedily obviated. (I'f^ It has been proved that the Attorney Gederal, with the same partiality a injustice, instituted .similar criminal proceedings, founded upon similar fac against a man named Aussant, against another named Louis Allard, a against another named Felix Lavallee, and others. Hence it appears that it was not enough for the Attorney General to have pi stituted the powers with which the Law invests him, to support the views of administrati 't': V, de la paix, fees personnes auraient dfl ^tre traduites devant ee dernier tribunal. Cette conduite dans laquelle le procureur-g6n^ral a pers6v6r6, malgr6 les repre- sentations r^it^r^es de plusieurs corps des grands-jury da district de Montreal, a du contribuer a substituer le m^contentement et le m^pris, au respect et k la confiance dont ce fonctionnairc public devrait jouir. II a 6t tialit^ dont leprocureur general s'est montr6 capable dans cette occasion, la per- secution qu'il a exerce centre ces individus n'ont pu que ddgrader et avilir I'ad- ministratien de la justice criminelle dans I'esprit des habitans de cette province. Et quand votre comit6 consid^re combien une bonne administration de la justice criminelle estn^cessaire au bien-etre de tout etat civilise, il ne peut se cacher que r^tat d'avilissement auquel le procureur-gendral a r^duit cette branche impor- >tante du gouvernement de ce pays, produirait n^cessairement les plusfunestcs efFets si Ton ne se h^tait de les prevenir. -A \ II a ete preuve, qu'avec la mtme partialite et la mSme injustice le procureur- g^'n^ral avait intente une poursuite criminelle semblable, fondee sur les m^mes tits, centre un nomme Aussant ; qu'il avait port6 une accusation de la m^me Wure contre un nomme Louis Allard, une autre contre un nomme Feiix Laval* ■e etautres. Ainsi ce n'etait pas assez pour le procureur-general d'avoir asservi les pouvoirs dont la loi le revet aux vues d'unc administration que le pays detestait, en em- ployant r VI. I administration Mhich was detested by iiie people, by employing them to crush tliose presses which advocated the best interests of the Country, whilst he pro- tected the unbounded license of those Journals which calumniated the Country and its Representatives ; but he must likewise make the administration of Justice, the means and tool of his personal revenge. That inducement to the commission of a crime, the idea alone of which is re> volting when it is predicated of him who has been specially appointed by Law and by the confidence of his Sovereign to watch over public morals ; that subor- nation of perjury of which the Attorney General has rendered himself gnilty, in the face of thefilectors and ofthe whole Country, has been substantiated before Your Committee by precise and determinate evidence. It h^s been proved that at the Election which took place at Sorel in One thousand eight hundred and twenty seven, the Attorney General persuaded one St. Germain who had not the right of voting, (and which he himself declared he had not, as he had made a donation of his property to his son,) to take the proprietor's oath, m order that he mighl vote in his favor. He said to that individual that, in his quality of Attorney General, he assured him that his vote was a good one; that he was the Attorney General, and that it was he alone who could prosecute him for per- jury. He even dared to take his hand and place it upon the Book of the Evange- lists, calling him his friend, and assuring him that he had nothing to fear ; whilst he very well knew, that that individual had no right to vote, since he afterwards prosecuted persons for perjury who had no more right to vote than that indivi- dual. Your Committee think it right to observe that on that occasion, St. Ger- main did in fact take the proprietor's oath, and voted for the Attorney General, and that he was not the only person similarly situated to whom the Attorney General promised impunity, and whose hand he took hold of, to engage him to take the oath, usual on such occasions. . Your Committee do not hesitate to declare that as the facts which have been established by the proofs laid before them, are such as must deprive the Attor- ney General of every species of esteem and confidence in the minds of the Inha- bitants of this Province, it cannot be without detriment to the administration of (Criminal Justice, that he can be continued in the exercise of the important office with which he is invested ; and that, if it be possible that, in this Country, a piiblic functionary of the elevated rank of Attorney General of this Province, t.'ouldbe guilty of such gross faults, (not to call them such crimes,) without their being a means of reaching and punishing him, we must foresee a dimuni ofthe high opinion which the Inhabitants of this Province entertain of the ( stitution which they owe to the Justice of the Imperial Parliament. Your Committee not having yet completed their investigation relative to s ' ral other Petitions, which e(|ually embrace matters of heavy complaint ags ■ the Attorney General, have considered that they ought to confine theroselve u this Report to the Petition ofthe Inhabitants of tlie City of Montreal, and a the enquiries they have made relative thereto, and the serious consideration t have bestowed thereon, have come to the following Resolutions : — Resolved. 1 ® . That it is the opinion of this Committee, that James Sti Esquire, Attorney General of this Province, by persisting in prosecuting be the Superior Tribunals, pei sons accused of minor ofl^ences, M'liich ought to I been [)rosecuted at the Quarter Sessions of the Peace, has been guilty of mal > sation in his office, and this with the sordid view of encrcasing his emolume »J Vll. ployant ses pouvoirs a ^eraser les presses qui soutenaient alors lesplus chers int^- r^tsdupays, tandis qu'il prot^gait la licence effr^nde desjournaux qui calom- niaient le pays et ses repr^sentans, ii failait qu'il fit ds I'administration de la jus- tice criminelie Tinstrument de ses vengeances person nelles. ■ , I '•) Cette invitation au crime dont Tid^e seule rdvolte lorsqu'on la suppose dans celui qui est prepos6 par la loi et la confiance de sonsouverain pour veillerit la morale publique, cette subornation de parjure dont le procureur-g^n^ral s'est rendu coupable k la face des ^lecteurs et de tout le pa^s, a et6 constat^e devant votre comit^ par des t^moignages precis et circonstanci^s. II a h& prouv6 qu'a I'election qui a eut lieu ^ Sorel en mil-huit-cent-vingt-sept, le procureur-g^n^ral avait engag6 un nomm6 Saint-Germain, qui n'avait pas le droit de voter, (et qui avouait lui-m^me qu'il n'avait pas ce droit, parce qu'il avail fait don de ses biens a son fils,; a prater le serment comme proprietaire, afln qu'il votat en sa faveur. II dit k cet individu qu'en sa qualite de procureur g^n^ral il lui assurait que sa voix etait bonne ; qu'il etait le procureur du Roi, qu'il n'y avait que lui qui put Ic poursuivre pour parjure : il osa lui prendre la main et la lui mettre sur le livre des 6vangiles, en I'appelant son ami et lui disant qu'il n'avait rien k craindre ; tandis qu'il savoit bien que cet individu n'avait pas le droit de voter puisqu'il a ensuite poursuivi pour parjure des personnes qui n'avaient pas d'autres quali- fications que cet individu ; votre comit6 croit devoir observer que St. Germain prit le serment comme proprietaire, et vota pour le procureur general ; et qu'il ne fut pas le seul anquel le procureur g^n^ral promit I'irapunite et dont il prit la main pour I'engager il faire les sermens ordinaires en ces occasions. Votre comit6 n'hesite point k dire que les faits dont il a entendu la preuve, ayant du priver le procureur general de toute esp^ce d'estime et de confiance dans I'esprit des habitans de cette province, ce ne pourrait ^tre qu'au detriment de I'adminis- tration de la justice criminelie qu'il pourrait £tre continue dans I'exercise de la charge importante qu'il occupe ; et que s'il etait possible qu'en ce pays un fonc- tionnaire public, aussi relev^ que le procureur general put se rendre coupable de fautes aussi graves, (pour ne pas dire de pareils crimes,) sans qu'il y eut un moven de I'atteindre et de I'en punir, on verrait diminuer la haute opinion que les habitans de cette province se sont forme de la constitution qu'ils doivent a la justice du parlement imperial. Votre comit6 n'ayant pas encore terming son enqu6te sur plusieurs requetes qui :;ontiennent aussi de graves sujets de plainte contre le procureur general, a du se borner dans ce rapport a la requete des habitans de la cite de Montreal, et apres I'enqu^te qu'il a fait a ce sujet et la serieuse consideration qu'il y a donnde, votre comite a forme les resolutions suivantes : ,1 N - ■s 1. Resolu, Que c'est I'opinion de ce comite, que James Stuart, ecuyer, pro- dreur g^n^ral de cette province, en persistant a traduire devant lestribunaux su- ,p^rieurs des personnes prevenues d' offenses legeres, et pour lesquelles elles au- roient du etre poursuivies dans les Sessions trimestrieiles de la paix, s'est rendu coupable de malversation et cela dans le but sordide d'augmenter ses d'molu- mens. 2. ^ • •• Vlll. 2°. That it is the opinion of this Committee, that the said James Stuart, £s- Attorney General of this Province, in order to shew his attachment to the quire Executive Government of the day, has been guilty of partiahty and peraecution, in the execution of the duties of his office, by inatituting libel prosecutionsi un- just and ill founded, against divsrs persons ; and has thereby rendered himself unworthy of the confidence of His Majesty's Subjects in this Province. I 3 ° . That it is the opinion of this Committee, that the said James Stuart, £s- uire. Attorney General of this Province, by making at the Election atSorel, iu the year One thousand eight hundred and twenty seven, where he was one A' the Candidates, use of threats and acts of violence, to intimidate some of the Electors of the said place, and by promising impunity to others, displayed his contempt of the freedom of Election, and has infringed the Laws which pro* tect it. 4 ® . That it is the opinion of this* Committee, that the said James Stuart, Es' puire, Attorney General of this Province, by prosecuting for perjury certain Electors of Sorel, who had voted against him, and by refusing or neglecting to prosecute others who were no better qualified, but who had voted in his favor, was actuated by motives of personal revenge, which made him forget his duty, and the oath he has taken as His Majesty's Attorney General in this Province. 5 ^ . That it is the opinion of this Committee, that the said James Stuart, Es- quire, Attorney General of this Province, by inducing, at the said Election of Sorel, certain Electors who were not qualified to take the oaths usual on such oc- casions, although he knew that those individuals were not qualified, has been guilty of subornation of perjury. G ° . That it is the opinion of this Committee, that by this conduct, the said James Stuart, Esquire, Attorney General of this Province, has brought the ad- ministration of Criminal Justice in this Province into dishonor and contempt ; and that he has been guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors, and is unworthy of the confidence of His Majesty's Government. 7 * . That it is the opinion of this Committee, that for the reasons before men- tioned, it is expedient that the said James Stuart, Esquire, Attorney General of this Province, be, as soon as may be, deprived of his office of Attorney Gei in this Province, and that he ought not to fill any other office of confid therein. 8 ® . That it is the opinion of this Committee, that it is expedient that anl ble address be presented to His Majesty, praying that it may please him to dis the said James Stuart, Esquire, from the office of Attorney General of this '. vince, and thereafler not appoint him to any other office of trust therein. 9 ° . That it is the opinion of this Committee, that it is expedient that an I ble address be presented to His Excellency the Governor in Chief, praying hii be pleased to suspend the said James Stuart, Esquire, Attorney General of this '. vince. from the said office, and the execution thereof, until the pleasure of Majesty on this subject shall be made known in this Province, and that the address be accompanied by a copy of these Resolutions. The whole nevertheless humbly submitted. ISIDORE BEDARD, President. IX. 2. Rdsofu, Que c'est I'opinion dc ce comity, que le dit James Stuart, ecuycr, procureur g6n6ral de cette province, pour montrer son d^-vouement au gouverne- mwt ex^cutif d'alors, sc rcndit coupable dc partiality et de persecution dans I'exdcution de ses devoirs, en instituant contre divers individus des poursuites pour libelle, injustes et malfond^es, et qu'en cela il s'est rendu indigne de la con ■♦' .1 ; , i«A 'Vtf )"■■ .*":'*'■■ .:;,M;^: ■.'Ji V' ^1 '-!M v( f ,1 it ^ A 'J'!«-i EVIDENCE. ii Hi i : HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY, Committee Room, Thursday, I7th February/, 1831. Isidore Bedard, Esquire, in the Chair. Ileni'i/ Crebassa, Notary, of Sorel : — 1 am a Notary, refilling in the Borough of Sorel, or William Henry, for thirty six years. Were you prefent at the E'eflion that took place at Sorel, for choofing a member of the Pro- vincial Parliament, in July 1827 ?~Yes, I w?.» prefent all the time in my quality of Returning Officer for the said Eleftion. Who were the Candidates at that Election ?— The Hon. James Stuart, .Attorney General for the Province, and Dr. Wolfred Nelfon, of St. Denis. Was that Election keenly contefted ?— Yes, very keenly. It lafted from the 25th July to the 31ft of the same month. Did you hear any threats uttered againft feveral of the Electors who came to vote ?— Yes, I heard the Attorney General vehemently threaten feveral of the eleftors who came to vote for Mr. Nelfon, He told them that he would prosecute them for perjury s if they voted that they ihould be pu; in the pillory, and that Mr. Nelson could not relieve them from it. Can you tell the names of any persons who were fo threatened by the Attorney General ? — Yes ; one named Antoine Paul Hus dit Cournoyeri and one named Antoine Auflant. Why did the Attorney General tell those persons that they were entitled to vote i — Because those two persons were fathers of families who had made donations of their property to their children. Did Cournoyer and Auflant offer themselves to vote, after an individual named St. Germain had voted for the Attorney General ?— Yes. Had the said St. Germain made a donation of his property to one of his sons, in the Came way as Cournoyer and Auflant had done of their's >. — Yes ; and it was myself who made out the: deeds. None of them had any more right to vote than the others. If I had not been Returi ing Officer, I fhould have told them not to vote. Each of thefe individuals had made donatior of all their property to their children without any referve. I will produce copies of their doni tion deeds. When St. Germain came forward to vote for the Attorney General, did any one point out t him that he had no right to vote ?— Yes } Mr. Nelfon ob-erved to him that he had no right t vote becaufe he had made a donation of his property, and he told him he did not say so to pre vent him voting, but he would do well to consider of it. What did the Attorney Gen<.."4l then say to him ?— The Attorney General told him that hi had a right vote, and that his was a goo- vote. What aid St. Germain thrn do ? —St. Germain thought it befl to retire and not to take tb oaih. Did St. Germain come forward a second time ?— Yes, he came forward a fecond time at th Presbytery, where the Poll was held. Was it again objected to him that he had no right to vote ? — Yes, Mr. Nelfon again represent' ed to him, that as he \\A given away his property, he could not vote, and that his fon had alrea. dy voted in virtue of the same property. Did St. Germain acknowledge the fa£l, and admit that he had made a donation of his proper- ty •( — Yes, he acknowledged it, and repeated leveral times I have given my property to my Ion. What did the Attorney General ►.Wen say ? — The Attorney General told him not to be afrali cf any thing, and that he had a right to vote. TEMOIGNAGES. Pro- ning I for the s, I for they ?— luse heir lain me .el n )r n; t t :i II 1' 1 I' CHAMBRE D'ASSEaiBLEE. Chahbre de Comite' Jeudi, 17 F^vrier 1831. Isidore Bedard, Ecuyers k la Chaire. Henry Cribassa, Notaire de Sorel :— Je fuis notaire reiident au bourg de Sorel ou William Henry depuis trente Cx ans, Etiez-vous present a I'^lection qui eut lieu a Sorel pour 6lire un membre du parlement pro- Tincial,enjuillet 1827 ?— Oaii j'y fusptesent tout le temps en quality d'officier-rapporteur de la dite election. Quels ^talent les candidats a cette Election ?— L'honorable James Stuarti procureur general de cette province, et M. le docteur Wolfred Nelfon, de 6t. Denis. Cette election fut elle vivement conteft£e ? — Oui tres vivement, elle dura depuis lo 25 juillet jusqu'au trente-et-un du meme mois. Avez-vous entendu faire des menaces & plufieurs electeurs qui venaient voter ^^ Oui, j'ai en- tendu M. le procureur g<>neral faire de fortes menaces a plufieurs 6lecteurs qui venaient voter pour M. Nelibn. 11 leur dilait qu'il les poutfuivrait pour parjure s'ils votaient, qu'ils ferateut mis au pilori et que M. Nelfon ne pourrait pas les delivrer. Pouvez-vous dire les noms de quelques perfonnes auxquelles le procureur general a fait ccj menaces ? — Oui, k un nomme Antoine Paul Hus dit Cournoyeret a un nomme Antoine Auilant. Pour quelle: raifons le procureur general difait-il que ces personnes ne devaient pas voter f — Parceque ces deux personnes etaient des p^res de families qui avaient fait don;;::on de leurs biens a leurs enfans. ' Cournoyer et Auflant se pr£senterent-ils pour voter apres qu'un nomme St. Germain eDt vote pour le procureur general ?— Oui. Ce nomme St. Germain avait-11 fait donation de ses biens k un de fes fils de la meme maniere, que Cournoyer et Auflant avaientf ait donation aux leurs ? — Oui, et c'est moi-meme qui ai pafie leurs actes. lis n'avaient pas plus de droit de voter les uns que les autrei. Si je n'eulFe pas ^ts officier-rapporteur, je leur aurais dit de ne point voter. Chacun de ces individus avait donne tout (es biens a leurs enfants fans aucunes referves. Je produirai copies de ces donations. Lorsque St. Germain sc pr^fenta pour voter pour le procureur general, ^uelqu'un lui fit-il rver qu'il n'avait pas le droit de voter ?— Oui, M, Nelfon lui obferva qu'il n'avait pas le d -il ob- server qu'il n'avait pas le droit de voter f — Oui, M, Nellon lui oblerva qu'il n'avait pas le droit de voter, parce qu'il avait fait donation de fes biens ; qu'il ne lui disait pas cela pour Tempecher de voter^ mais qu'il ferait bien de se confulter. Que lui dit alors le procureur du Roi ? — Le procureur du Roi lui dit qu'il avait j^Ie droit de voter ; que son vote ^tait bon. Que fit alors St. Germain f — St. Germain crut devoir se retlier et ne pas prendre le ser- ment. St Germain se pr6senta-t-il unc seconde fois ? — Oui, il se pr&enta une seconde fois^a lamai- son presbytjriale ou se tenait le poll, Lui objecta-t-on encore qu'il n'avait pas le droit de voter ? — Oui, M. Nelson lui r^peta encore qu'ayant donne aes biens, il ne pouvait pas voter, et que Ion fils avait d<>j'a vote sur ses biens la. St. Germain convint-il du fait et dit-il qu'il avait fait donation de ses biens ?— Oui il en cob- vint et il r^peta plufieurs fois, j'ai donne mes biens a mon file. f Que dit alora le procureur g^n^ral ?- avait Ic droit de voter. -Le procureur g^n^ral ini dit de ne rien craindre* qu'il Alors 4- Did Mr. Ne'ifon ihen require that St. Germain should take the proprietor's oath ? — Yes. What iinpression did the assertion of the .Attorney General, that he had nothing to fear, make upon your mind ? — I thought that St. Germain could not take the oath without perjuring himself, but that nevertheless he would not be prosecuted by the Attorney General, the words that he had nothing to fear being a kind oi inducement, not only to St. Germain, but to others in simelar situations, to vote in his favor ; and I believe that it was this which engaged Auflant and Courncyer to come to vote. Did St. Germain .•ihow any reluctance to take the oath ? — Yes, and if I had thought ] could have fpoken, I should have told him not to take the oath. What did the Attorney Genera! then do ? — The Attorney General then sa id to him, that, in his quality of Attorney General, he told him that he had a right to vote ; vote, vote, my friend, you have nothing to fear, and he took his hand, and put it upon the Evangelifts. St. Germain then took the oath as a proprietor, and voted for Mr. Stuart. What is the age and character of St. Germain ? — He is a respectable old man. You told Us that llus dit Cournoyer and Auflant did not give their votes till after St Germain had vo'"'! ior .Mr. Stuart } was it objected to them that they had made donations of. their property ? — ies, the Attorney General told them that they had no right to vote, becaufe they had given away their property, and that if they would vote, they mull take the proprie- tors' oath ; and to me he said, " let them swallow all the oaths.'' What did Cournoyer and AufTant then say .' — They said th«y had as much right to vote as St. Germain, who iiad given away his property as they had theirs ; and that the Attorney Gene- ral had made St. Germain vote ; and thereupon they took the proprietors' oath, and voted for Mr. Nelson. Michel niackemrt/(r, redding at Maskinongd, examined : — Were you preient at the election which took place at Sorel in July 1827 .' — Yes, I was pre- sent there all the time, in my quality cf Clerk of the Poll. Who wore the candidates at that election ? — Mr. James Stuart the Attorney General, and Wolfred Nelson, Esqr.of St. Denis Was that election keenly contefled ?— Yes, very keenly, and it laded a long while. Is it within yout knowledge that the Attorney General made use of threats to those who came to vote for Mr. Nelson .'—Very often, and almost to all. He said to some that if they voted, he would prosecute tn em for perjury i that they would be put to pillory, and that Mr. Nel,son would not go and put himself in their place. Did he make use of thofe threats to one named Paul Hus dit Cournoyer, and to one named Antoine Auflant V— Ye>. Did the Attorney Gsneral tell those individualn, that they had no right to vote, because they had made donations of their property to their children .' — Yes, and that their children had voted in virtue of that property. Did Cournoyer and Auflant came forward to vote, after one St. Germain had voted for the Attorney General ?— Yes, afterwards. When St. Germain came forward to vote, did any one observe to him that he had no right to vote?— -Yes, Mr. Nelson observed to him that he had made donation of his property; that he did not say this to him to prevent him from voting, but that he would do well to get the advice of well informed persons before voting ; that his son had already voted upon the same property, and that he would advise him to consider well of it- Did the Attorney General then tell St (Germain that he had a right to vote? — Yes, he le- peated to him several times that he had a right to vote, although he had given away his pro- perty i and that his vote was a good one. What did St Germain then do ?— St Germain then retired, without taking the oath, be- caufe he had given away his property to his son, and that he had been informed that that de- prived him of his right of voting. Did St. Germain came forward a second time to vote ?— Yes. Was it again objected to him, that he had not a right to vote ?— Yes, Mr. Nelson made the fame objections to him, has he had done the first time -, namely that he had made a donation of Iiis property, and that his son had already voted on that property. What did the Attorney General then say to him i"— I'hc Attorney General told him that he had M^-^ ^?, r Alors M.Nelson exigca-t-il que St. Germain prit leserment comme propri^talre .'-Oui. Qnetle impreffion cctte affertion du procureur gener,il, qu'il n'avait rien a craindre, fit-clle sur votreefprit .'— Je penfai que St. Germain ne pouvait pas prendre le serment sans fe parjurer, et qu'en le faifant toute foiit line se'-it pas pourfuivi par ie procureur; ces mots qu'il n'avait rien a craindre etant une afpece d'encouragement non {culement a St. Germain, mais encore a d'au- tres sous de semblables circon^'ances, dc venir voter en la f aveur j et je penfe que c'efl ce qui a engage Auflant et Cournoyer a venir voter. St. Germain montra-t-il alors quclque repugnance a prendre le serment ?— Oui, et si j'euiTe cru pouvoir parler, je lut aurais dit de ne pas prendre le serment. Que fit alors le procureur general .' — Alors le procureur general luidit qu'en sa qualite de procu- reur general, il lui difait qu'il avait le droit de voier : votez ! votez ! mon amis, vous n'avezrien rien a craindre, il lui prit la main et la lui mit sur le livre d'Evangilc ; alors St. Germain prit le ferment comme proprietaire, et vota pour M.Stifart. Quel eft I'age et le caractute de St. Germain r— C'eft un hon^te vieillard. Vous avez dit que Heu dit Cournoyer et Auflant de voterent qu'aprcs que St. Germain eut vote pour M. Stuart ; leur objecta-t-on qu'ils avaient fait donation de leurs biens .'—Oui, le pro- cureur general leur dit qu'ils n'avaient pas le droit de voter, parce qu'ils araient donn£ leurs biens, et que s'ils voulaient voter, il fallait qu'iU priflent le serment comme proprietaires, et il me dit a moi, •' kt them swallow all the ualhs ''. Que dirent alors Cournoyer et Auflant ? — lis dirent qu'ils avaient autant de droit de v-»er que St. Germain, qui avait donni ses biens comme eux, et que le procureur general avait fait voter St- Germain, et la-delTus ils prirent le ferment comme proprietaires et voterent pour M. Nelfon Michel Glackmetjer, refident a Maskinonge : — Etiez-vous present a I'electioa qui eut lieu a Sorel en juillet 182/ ?— Oui j'yfus prefent tout le temps, en qualite de clerc du poll. Quel etaient les candidats a cette election ? — M, James Stuart le procureur general, et M- Woltred Nelfon, ccuyer, de St. Denis. Cette election fut-eile vivement contestee ?— Oui tres vivement, et elle a dur^ long-temps. Avez-vous connaissance que le procureur general ait fait des menaces a ceux qui venaient vo- ter pour M. Nelfon ? Tres fouvent et presqu'a tous, il a dit a quelques uns que s'ils votaient, il les poursuivrait pour parjure ; qu'ils seraient mis au pilori, et que M. Nelson n'irait pas se met- Un it leurs places- A-il fait ces menaces la a un nomme Paul Hus dit Cournoyer et a un nomme Antoine Auf. fant ?— Oui. Le procureur general disait-il a ces individus qu'ils n'avait pas le droit de voter parce qu'ils avaient fait donation de leurs biens a leurs enfans ?— Out, et que leurs enfans avaient voti sur ces biens la. Cournover et Auflant se pr^sentcrent-il pour voter aprfej qu'un nomrn^ St. Germain eut vote pour le procureur general ? — Oui- Lorsque St. Germain se prufenta pour voter quelqu'un lui obferva-t*iI qu'il n'avait pas ie droit dc voter ? — Oui M. Nelfon lui obferva qu'il avait fait donation de ces biens, qu'il ne lui disait pas tela pour I'empecVer de voter, mais qu'il ierait bicn de se confulter a des gens sages avant que de voter, que son fils avait d6j'a voter sur la meme propriet6, que c'^tait pour cela qu'il lui re- comniandait de bien (e confulter. Le procureur du roi dit-il alors a St. Germain qu'il avait le droit de voter ? — Oui, il lui ti- pcta plufieurs fois qu'il avait Ie droit de voter, quoiqu'il eut donnc fcs biens, que sa vols eiaic bonne. Que (it alors St. Germain ?_St. Germain se retira alors sans vouloir prendre le serment, en disant qu'il ne pouvait pas confentir a prendre le serment parce qu'il avait donnc les d fon fils, et qu'il avait ete inform e que cela lui otait son droit de voter. St, Germain se presenta-t-il une seconde fois pour voter ? — Oui. Lui objecta*t-on encore qu'il n'avait pas le droit dc voter ; — Oui, M- Nelfon lui fit les memes objections qu'il avait faites la premiere fois , c^eft-a-dire qu'il avait fait donation de ses biens et que Ion fils avait d6jil vote fur ces bien la. Que lui dit alors le procureurdu roi .'— Le procureur general lui dit qu'il avait droit de voter, qus "'%-., ./ had a right to vote, that his vote was a good one, and that, in his quality of Attorney General, hu saia to him that he had the right of voting. Did Mr. N-'I'bn then require that St. Germain should take the proprietor'! oath ?— Tes. Did St. Germain shew any reluctance to take the oath f — Yes ; the emotion he felt seemed tj agitate him and he repeated feveral times, I have given my property to my Ton. What did the Attorney General then do ?— The Attorney General took St. Germain's hand and placed it upon the Evangelifts, saying to him, vote, vote, my dear friend ; you have a right to vote ( I tell you in my quality of Attorney General that you have nothing to fear ; it will not be Mr. Nelson who will have to plead your caufe. St. Germain then took the proprietor's oath, and voted for Mr. Stuart. What Is the age and character of St. Germain ? — He ii an old man of an irreproachable cha- raaer. You have told us that HusditCournoyer, and Antoine Aufl*ant gave their votes, after St.- Germain had voted for Mr, Stuart ; was it objected to them that they had made donations of their property ?— Yes, the Attorney General told them, aj I have before said, that they had not the right of voting, and that if they did vote they would be put In the pillory ; and that Mr. Nel- fon would not put himfelf in their place : and addreffing the Returning Officer, he siiA to him, " let him fwallow all the oaths." What did Cournoyer and Aifant say at that time ?— They said their cafe was the fame as St- Germain's, and that, since the Attorney General had considered his vote as good for him ; their's ought alfo to be good ; and (hereupon, they took the proprietor's oath, and voted for Mr. Nelfon. Friday, IBth February, 183 J. Isidore Bedard, Esquire, in the Chair. Wolfrtd Nelson, Efquire, Physician, residing at St. Denis ; Were you one of the Candidates at the Election that took place at Sore] in July, 1827 P— Yesi and the other Candidate was James Stuart, the Attorney General of this Province. Was that Eleftion keenly contefted ? — Yes. Did Mr. Stuart frequently threaten those wlto came forward to vote againft him ? — Almoft every voter who was against him ; and to feveral of them he said that. If they voted, he would prosecute them for perjury ; that they would be put in the pillory, and that Doctor Nelson would not put his neck in their (lead. Did be utter fimilar threats to a man named Hus dit Cournoyer, and to one named Antoinc Auflant? — Yes. Was the objeflion made by Mr. Stuarc againft tliose individuals as voters, because they had made donations of their property to their children ? — Yes- Did those two individuals not vote in your favor, until alter a man named St. Germain, whc had equally made a donation of his property, had voted for Mr. Stuart ? — Yes. When the said St. Germain otfered himself to v ate for Mr. Stuart, was the objection made to him that he had made a donation of his property to his son ?— Yes ; I observed to him that, as he had made a donation of his property to his foil, I believed he had no right to vote, and that it would be painiul to see a man of his age and respectability, take an oath which he ought not to take; that, howevei, I did not uay this to prevent him from voting; but that I Hrongly recommended him to confider well before he decided. What did the Attorney General then fay to him .' — The Attorney General said, fear nothing, my friend, I afllire you you have a right to vote. Mr. Nelson mij be a good Doctor, but he is not a lawyer ; it is not him who will have to prosecute you. Did St. Germain admit the fact in queQiou, and did he say, that he had indeed made a dona. tion •eneraJ, ». leemed 's hand right will not 's oath, le cha- r St.. on« of id not . Nel- > him, s St- him; r Mr. que sa votx etait bonne ( qu'en sa quality de procurenr du roi, il loi disait qu'il avait le droit de voter. M. Nelfon exigea-t-il alors que St Germain prit le lerment comme propri^taire f — Oui. St. Germain tnontra-t>il quelque repugnance a prendre le serment ?— Qui, et I'omotion qa'il ^prouvait paraiflait le faire trembler ; et il r^peta plusieurs foit, j'ai donn6 ffles bienB & mon fils. Que fit alon le procureur general i* — Le procureur g^n^ral prit h main de St. Germain et la lui mit sur I'Evangile, en lui disant, votez, votez mou cher ami ; vbis avez droit de voter, je vous dis en ma qualit6 dc procureur da roi que vous n'avez rieu a craindre ; ce n'eft pas M. Nel« son qui plaidera votre cause. St. Germain prits alert le serment comme propriitaire et vota pour M. Stuart. Quel eft I'age et le caractere deSt. Germain ?— St. Germain eft un vieillard d'un caractere ir- reproachable. Vous avez dit que Hus dit Cournoyer et Antoine Aufiant voterent aprei que St. Germain eut vot6 pour M. Stuart i leur objecta>t-on qu'ils avaient fait donation de leuis biens ? — Oui, le procureur general leur dit comme je I'ai deju mentionne ci-defTus qu'ila n'avaient pas le droit de voter, et que t'ils votaient ils leraient mis au pilori, et que M. Nelfon ne prendrait pas Icurs places ( et en s'adrelTant a roflicier rapporteur il lui dit " Let him swallow all the oaths." Que dirent dans ce moment Cournoyer et AulTant ?— 'lis dirent qu'ils etaient dans le meme cas que St. Germain, et que pui^que )e procureur gendral avait trouv^ sa voix bonne pour lui, la leur devait ctre bonne auffi i et Ik-defiusils prircnt le serment comme propridtaires et Totitrent pour M. Nelson. I. Vendredi, 1 8 Fevrier 1 831 . lofl: uld ior fit ad ic le t. d y Isidore Bedard, Ecuyer, iMaChaire. ' Wolfred Nehon, ecuyer, medecin, demeurant a Saint>Denis :— Vous ^tiez un des candidats a rejection qui eut lieu a Sorel en juillet 182? ?~Oui, et I'autre candidat itait James Stuart le Procureur G^niral de cette Province. Cette Election fut-elle vivement conteftee .?— -Oui. M. Stuart fefait-il fouvent des menaces a ceux qui venaient voter contre lui ?— Prefque a cha- que ^lecteur qui lui ^tait oppofe { il a dit a plufieurs que s'ils votaient il les pourfuivrait pour par- jure \ qu'ils feraient mis au pilori, et que le Docteur Nelfon ne mettrait pas son col a leur place. A-t'il fait de femblables menaces a un nomme Hus dit Cournoyer et a un nomm6 Antoine Auffant ?— Oui. L'objection que faisait M. Stuart a la reception de ces individus comme voteurs, etait-elle qu'ils avaient fait donation de leursbiens \ leurs enfans i* — Oui. Ces deux individus ne vot^rent-ils en votre faveur, qu'apres qu'un nomme St. Germain, qui avait pareillement fait donation de les biens, eQt veti pour M. Stuart ? — Oui. Lorsque Saint Germain fe pr£senta pour voter en faveur de M. Stuart, lui objecta-t-on qu'il avait fait donation de fes bicnsa Ton fils ?~.*Oui, je lui obTervai qu'ayant fait donation de fes biens u fon fils, je croyais qu'il n'avait pas le droit de voter, et qu'il ferait p^nible de voir un homma de fon ilge et de la refpectabilitg faire un ferment qu'il ne devrait pas hire i que toute-fots je ne lui dilait pas cela pour le priver de voter, mais je lui recommandais fortement de fe consulter avant de ce decider. Que lui dit alors le procureur du roi P— Le procureur du roi dit, ne craignez point men ami, je vous aflure que vous avez le droit de voter ; M. Nelfon peut-ctre bon medecin, mais il n'eft pa^avocat ; ce n'eft pas lui qui vouspourfuivra. Saint'Gerraain convenait-il du fait dont il I'agilTait, et dit il, qu'en efTi^t il av«it fait donation de 8 \ ion of his property 7— Yea ; he acknowledged it, and he repeated feveral times that he had given away his property to his fon; and he Ihewed a rcluftance to vote. What did the Attorney General then do ? — He took St. Germain's hand, and placed it upon the Evangeliftst faying to him ; vote, vote, my friend, your vote is a good one : I tell you, in my quality of Attorney General that you have a right to vote ; you h?ve nothing to fear j this was the fubftance cf what he faid, and the words he ufed had exaflly the fame fenfe. What did St. Germain then do f — He took the proprietor's oath and vo'^ed for Mr. Stuart. Do you recollect whether St. Germain offered himielf twice to vote ? — I do not at prefent recolleft, but I am certain that Mr. Stuart faid to him thofe things that I have repeated, when he came forward to vote, and that, in fact, he did vote for Mr. Stuart. Was St. Germain the only one, whofe hand Mr Stuart took and placed on the Evangelifts, in order to make him take the oath, and vole in his favour V — No ; he did the fame thing to- wards one named Jean Bte. Matt, who was generally faid not to be qualiBed, and who had some repugnance to take the oath. Did you hear Mr. Stuarf say that he was the only perfon who could profecufe thole who voted without having the right to do fo for perjury ? — Yes ; he said fo to feveral perlbns, whom I did not believe were quaiiiied, and whom I required 10 take the oath before t'ney voted ; add- ing that those perfons had nothing to tear. You have faid that Hus dit ( ournovc and Antoine Auflant did not vote, until after St. Ger- main had voted for Mr. Stuart; was it t.ien objected to them that they had made donations of their property to their children :— Yes : the Attorney General faid they had no right vote be- caufe they had given their property to ihcir children. What did Cournoyer and AulTiint then lay y — They faid that their votes were as good a-, St. Germain's, and as the Attorney General had decided that St. Germain's vote was a good one for him, their "s ought to be good for Mr. Nelfon ; and they added that they had more right to vote than St. fiermain. Did the Attorney General require them to take the proprietor's oath ? — Yes. Did he then make use of the expreflion, " Let him >wallow all the oaths y'—l cannot say whether he msde use of those cxprelllons at that time ; but he frequently made use of them on other occasions, if he did not on this. Did Cournoyer and Auflant take the proprietor's oath, and did they vote for you ?— Ves, Did Mr. Stuart avail of his quality of Attorney General, to intimidate the voters, or influ- ence the election, under other circumftances than those before mentioned y — Whenever anyone came to vote for me, after Mr. Stuart had objected to his vote, he immediately called a man named Wilmot, a Shoemaker, and one named George, a Cook on board a Steam Boat, and told them to go and fee whether the property of the individual who had juft voted was worth five pounds. Thole men then went to enquire, and came back to lay that it was not worth five pounds i and it is within my knowledge that immediately thereupon, a man named Gay, a Uaitifi-, went and took up those voters, and carried them before Mr. Von Iffiand, a Judice of the Peace, who held them to bail to appear before the Court of King's Bench, for perjury. Jean Delisle, Efquire, Clerk of the Crown and of Montreal. the Peace, in and for the Diftrict of Is it within your knowledge, that James Stuart, Esquire, his Majefty's Attorney General foi this Province has ever taken proceedings in the Criminal Court of King's Bench, againft pcr- fons accufed of minor offences, who might have been proceeded againft in the Quarter Seflions of the Peace .?— I an.swer yes. That occurred in feveral terms. Can you fpecify any of thofe cafes ?— I cannot specify any of those particular cases, excepting those in March Term lafV, of which I liave produced the indiamcnts at the req-ielt of the Com- mittee ; but, if more time be given me, I could extend this ftatement to several of the preceding terms, and I will do fo, if the Committee require it, by referring to the different indictments when I return to Montreal, State, if you pleafe, the different cafes of that kind, which took place in the said March Term f— 1ft. The indictments No. 27, 28 and 29 preferred againft the fame man, Fran9ois Foutnel, a I given 9 de Tes bieuj ?— Oui, il en convenait ; il rcpeta plufiears fois qu'il ivait donn£ fei biens a fon fijf, et il manifefta de la repugnance a voter. Que fit alori. de Procureur General ?— II prit la main de St. Germain, et la lui mit «ur I'Evan- gile, en lui di^iant, voter, voter mon ami, votre voix eft oonne, je vous dis en ma qualite de Pro- cureur du Roi, que vous avez le droit de voter, vout n'avez rien ii craindre j c'eft Ik ce qu'il dit en iubAance, et le lots dont il se servait avaient exactement ce sens. Que fit alors St. Germain ?— Il prit le serment comme proprietaire et vota pour Mr. Stuart. Vous rappelez-vous si St. Germain fe prefcnia deux fois poiir voter ? — )e ne m'en rappelle pas en ce moment, mais je fuis certain que Mr. Stuart lui dit les chosen que j'ai repet£es lorsqu'il i>e prefenta pour voter, et qu'il vota en effet pour Mr Stuart. St. Germain eft-il le seul dont Mr. Stuart ait pris la main, et la lui ait mis fur I'Evangile pour I'engager a faire ferment ct a voter en fa faveur ? — Non, il en a agi ainfi envers un nomm£ Jean Bte. Matt, qu'on difait bien gen£ralement n'etre pas qualifie, et qui avait quelque repugnance h faire ferment. Avez-vous entendu dire a Mr. Stuart qu'il Jtait le feul qui put poursuivre pour parjure ceux qui votcraient sans avoir le droi: ? — Oui, il a dit tela a plu^ieurs perfonnes que je ne croyais pas qualifies, et dont j'exigeais le ferment avant qti'elles votaflenr, et ajoutant que ces personne* n'avaient rien & craindre. Vous avei dit que Hus dit Cournoyer et Antoine AulTant ne voterent qu'apres que St. Ger- main e-jt vot6 pour Mr. Stuart ; leur objecta-t-on alors qu'il avaient fait donation de leurs bien a leurs enfants ? — Oi'i, le Procureur du Roi dit qu'ils n'avaient pas le droit de voter par ce qu'ils avaient donn6 leurs biens & leurs enfants. Quedirent alors Cournoyer et AuflTant ?— lis dirent que leur voix £taient aufli bonnes que celles de St. Germain, et que puisque le Procureur du Roi avait decide que la voix de S'. Ger- main £tait bonne pour lui, la leur devait 8lre bonne pour M. Nelfon, et ils ajouterent qu'ils avai- ent plus de droit de voter que St. Germain. Le Procureur du Roi exigeait-ii, qu'il prilTent le serment comme proprietaires ?— Oul Se servit-il alors de ces expreflions « Ze< /hot ston//o!» a// ; Ue mars i*— 1 ° . Les indictemens No 2~, 28) 29) produit contre le meme Francois Fournel pour avoir •f k ■> / to Fournel, for having pafliid on the lame dajr, and to the same perron, three Counterfeit French Half Crowns. '2d. The indictment No. S9 againft Thomas Pibble, for ftealing four articles, valued in the indictment, ahogetlier at four (hillingi and nine pence. 3d. The indictment No. 2, againft J. Bte. Ulondin, for dealing a Bank Bill of one dollar. 'I'th. The indictment No. II, againll Pierre and Timoth^e Guertin, for ftealing two bufhels of rye, valued at five ihillings (lerling for the two. 5th. The indictment No 18, againft J. Bte. Foorne), and Richard Macginnis, for ftealing two pair of fmall pincers valued at one (hilling for the two, and a hammer of the value of fixpiince. ()tli. The indictment No. i*, againft Charles Charpentier, for dealing a table>cloth, valued at eighteen Ihillings fterling. 7th. The indictment againft David Cody for ftealing three pair of woollen socks valued at two Ihillings flerling, a pair of woolen dockings of the value of five ihillings, a {>air of cotton gloves at the valne of one shilling, being goods belonging to two different pertoni, and in all valued at eight ihillings. Can you tell us whether the witnefses in thofe cafes were paid ? — Thofe who reflde in the City are not paid, bi)t those who come from the country are paid, if they prove that they are poor, and unable to bear the espenfes of the journey. How much does the Attorney General receive for each indictment ?— To the bed of my knowledge, he receives two pounds derling for every indictment laid before the Grand Jury, and five pounds five shillings derling, for every case submitted to a Petty Jury. N. B.— In the nine caufes mentioned above, he got sixty-five pounds five sliillings. How much would thoie indictments, and the proceedings thereon have cod, had they been carried before the Quarter Seffions ?— For each indictment laid before the Grand Jiuy of the Quarter Seflions, the Province pays 6s. 8d currency, and ISi. 4d. for the case when it comes on. Are the witnedes of the Crown paid for those matters which are carried before the Quarter Seflions ? — They have not, to my knowledge, been ever paid, as long as I have been Clerk of the Peace, that is to say about sixteen years. Docs there in your opinion any advantage to public judice, arise from proceeding againd those minor offences in the Court of King's Bench, indead of at the Quarter Seflions of the Peace ? — I do not know of any. Oo not the accused individuals suffer from this order of things ? — ^They are exposed to being longer detained in prifoi as there are four terms in the year for the Quarter ScfTions, while there are only two terms in the Criminal Court of King's Bench. It happens also sometimes therefore that they are kept in prifon for several months waiting for the Criminal Term, whild in many cares, they might perhaps not be sentenced upon conviction to a longer period of imprison- ment than one month, and possibly leis. Fridai/, 18/A February, 1831. Apg. N. Mi>Ri>r, Esquire, in the Chair. John Delislc, Esq. again examined : , The Committee have been informed that Presentments have been made by the Grand Jury for the district of Montreal, that rclat« to the practice of cari'ying cases before tho Hnpcrior Conrts of Justice, which ought to have been carried before the Quarter Ses isions ; can you produce them ( — I produce five*. 1. Of the 10th March IH'2& ; 2d. One of the months of August and September 1820 ; 3d. One of the month of August 1K29 ; 4th. One of the mouth of March 1830 ; and 5tk. One of the month of April 1830. (See Appendix.) Besides ch he 11 avoir fait pafler le mtme jour, a la mcme perfonne, troit fiux ecus. Franqait. 2 ° . L'indictmentNo, 89 centre Thomas Pibble, pour vol de quatre articles estiniis dans I'in- dicteroent enictnble k quartre chelins et neuf pence. 3 o . L'indictement No. 2 contre J. Bte. Blondin pour vol d'un billet de banque d'une pia;- tre. 4°. L'indictement No< II, pour vol de deux minots de scigle de la valeur de cinq chelins Acrling Us deux minots par Pierre Timothn Guertin. 5°. L'indictemment No. 18, contre J. Bte. Fournel et Richard Macginnis, pour vol de deux pairs de petites pincettes estimees a un chelin les deuXi et an marteau de la valeur de douze lols. 6^. L'indictement No. 24 contre Chat les Charpentier, pour vol d'une nappe estlm6e a 18 chelin fterling. 7 ° . L'indictement contre David Cody, pour vol de trois paires de chauiTons de laine eftim^s a 2 chelins (lerling, une paire de bas de laine de cinq chelins, une paire de gants de coton de la valeur d'an chelin fterling, des effets appartenans deux difierentes personnes, et valant en tout huit chelins. Pourriez>-vous nous dire si les temoins dans ces causes ont et6 pay^s ? — Les t^moins de la ville ne font pas pa76s>mais ceux de la campagne le font, lorsqu'ils juftilient qu'il font pauvres et inca> pables de supporter les d^penfes du voyage. Combien le procureur re9oit-il par chaque indictement 7— Au metlleur de ma conuaifTance, il re;oit'deux louis flerling pour chaque indictement soumis au grand jury, et cinq louis cinq che- lins (lerlipg par chaque proces devant le petit jury. (W. D.— Dans lei neuf causes ci-delTus il a eu rf65 5s.) Combien leg indictemens sufdits et les proces auraient ils coute s'ils euflent 6t€ portcs aux feflionsdequartier?— Pour chaque indictement soumis au grand jury des seflions de quartier,la Province paye 6s. 8d. courant et 1 3s. 4d. pour le proces lonqu'il a lieu. Les temoins de la Couronnetont its payes dans les affaires portcs dans les feflions de quar- t;£r i — A ma connoiflance ils ne I'ont jaipais iU depuis que je fuis Greffier de la paix, c'eft-a-dire depuis environ feize ans. De la pourfuite de ces delits mineurs dans la Cour du Banc du Roi au lieu de la feflion de quar- tier, rcsulte-t-il a TOtre avis aucun avantage pour la judice publique ? ~Je n'en connait aucun. Les individus accufes ne touffrent-ils pas de cet ordre de chofes ? — II les expose a etre plus long terns detenus en prison, car il y a quatre termes par ann^e pour les feflions de quartier, au lieu qu'il n'y en a que deux pour les Cours criminelles. II r^sulte encore qu'il sont quelque foil detenus plutieurs moit en prison pour attendre le terme criminel,taDdis que cans blendes cai, ils n'eufl'entpeut etre contre William Broclc, pour assault et batteric. ii o . L'indictement No. 6, contre Julia Donobue, pour vol d'une robe de femme, dc la valcur dc 9 chelinst. Lorsque dcs declarations sous serment ^talent faites devant le president des sessionN pour del offenses qui auraient pu £tre port^es devant cette cour, ct que leg accuser* etaient admis k caution, devant quelle cour les obligent-on comparaltre ? — Je ne pui^ le dire parceque je n'avais rien a faire avec le bureau de police ; et que les d^laratlons ^talent directenient remises par le president au provureur g6n6ral. Qui recevaient les cautionnemens dans ces cas i — lis ^talent re^us au bureau dc Police. Lorsque les accuses n'6taient pas admis a caution dans les mimes cas ded^lita mineurs, pour quelle cour assignait-on les t^moins ? — Je ne puis le dire. Avez-vous re^u de I'^xecutif quelqu'ordre r^latif h la poursuite des offenses mineures ! — Oui ; peu de terns avant le depart de Sir James Kempt, je requ ordre de sa part d<- poursuivre toutes les offienses mineures devant les sessions de quartirr ; je produirai au comit6 une copie de la lettre k ce si^et. En quoi consistait cet ordre ?— La lettre contenait entr'autres une injonction d'y pour- suivre les personnes accus^es de vol jusqu'u cinq livres. Vou8-£te8-vous conform^ a cet ordre ? — Oui ; dans tons les cas seulement oik j'ai pu me procurer des timoins sans frais s car je n'ai aucun fonds a ma disposition pour cet objet. Ne verse t-on-pas dans vos mais certaines amendes impos^es par les sessiona de quar- tier et les sessions bebdomadaires ; croyez vous qu'il serait avantageux que ces aomincH fussent employ^'* ^ defrayer les t^moins n^cessiteux I — Oui ; au montant d'environ j£IOO par an plus ou moins, et je pense que ces deniers suffiraient amplement pour defrayer les t6raoins de cette cour ; mais je n'ai point pu jusqu'ici les y employer, la loi ne m'y autorisant pas. Ces amendes ont toigours 6t6 payees par moi dans lea mains du Procureur Gdnlral; ce qui fait qu'il ne me restait aucun moyen d'assigner des te- moins des cndroits ^ioignes de la ville, de maniirc que plusleurs n'ont pu itte pour- suivis. , \ 4ft i / Semedi, 19 Fevrier, 1831. ] Jacques Labrie, ^cuyer, au fauteuiU Wolfred Nflson, ecuyer, exainin6 de nouveau : — Y a-t-il eu plusieurs personnes arretdes au poll, ainsi que vous I'avez mention- ne en dernier lieu dans votre examen d'hier ? — Oui, deux aumoins ; et j'ai en- tendu dire au Procureur-G^n6ral k plusieurs reprises en parlant publiquement au hustings, qu'en sa qualite de Procureur G^n^rai il poursuivraient certains in- dividus qui votaient contre lui, tandis qu'il assurait a ceux qui votaient en sa faveur qu'il n'avaient rien a craindre, lui seul comme Procureur General, ayant le droit de les poursuivre, et par I'assurance avec laquelle il affirmait ces choses il a engag6 plusieurs personnes h votre pour lui. lorsque par la commune renom,- 'm6e ces individus passaient pour n'avoir pas les propriet^s necessaires pour avoir droit de voter. Mr. c \ I 14 Did Mr. Stuart require all those whom he siippofied to be inclined to vote for you to take the oath? — (Generally he did, telling the Returning Olficer to make them swallow all the three oaths ; and even went so far us to require old men whose hair was wholly grey, to take the oath of being of age. Did he prosecute the persons whom he had thus threatened ? — Yes ; and ho kept them from term to torm for more than two years, exacting heavy bail from them ; \vhilst he did not prosecute any of those who had voted for himself, and to whom he had said, they had nothing to fear. Is it not within your knowledge that in the course of the said Election, the Attorney General, publicly, and on he hustings, threatened J. K. Welles, Ksqr., that if he did not make greater exertions to forward the election, ho would report him to the Governor ?— -Yes ; once at least, and perhaps twice, and that was done in a violetit and very imperative manner. Did not Mr. Stuart, having got one or two persons to promise to vote for him, whom he supposed to be inclined to do so, when those persons voted against him, prosecute them ? — 'Yes. [;..( ■ ) .1 iff, • ! .r Monday, 21i/ February, 1831. Jacques Labrie, Esquire, in the Chair. « Mr. Henry Crebassa, again examined : Is it within your knowledge, that in the month of March last, a person named Schiller, who is a bailiff of the Court of King's Bench, came to you at Sorel, with some depositions that were ready prepared, one of which was addressed to you ? — Yes ; I saw one addressed to me, one addressed to Mr. Jones, one to Mr. Von Iffland, and another, I believe to Mr. Glackemeycr, Clerk of the Poll, at the time uf the said Election. It appeared to ffie that they were in the hand-writing of the Attorney General. Do you know the contents of those deposMons .' — They purported that during the Election' at which Mr. Stuart had offered himself in opposition to Dr. Wolfred Nelson, he had not acted with that violence which had been ascribed to him, and which had been proved in' thd preceding term of the Criminal Court ; that he liad not in any way persuaded or solicited St. Germain to make oath that he was qualified to vote in respect of property ; and that he had not used any threats to any Electors that he would prosecute them, even when they voted for Mr. NelsoTi. Can yoii procure a copy of one of those affldavits for thi Committee ? — I have not one here ; but Ibelieve I can cet one, and send it to you, when I get home. (The witness since transmitted the affidavit addressedto hinij see Appendix (N.n.) to this Report.) Who fr.iled at the said' Election, Mr. Stuart or Mr. Nelson? — It was the Attorney fSencral. Were prtjtecdings for perjury taken against those who had voted at that Elec- tion; against' Mr, Attorney Geileral ?■ 'Yesj' I believe against six or seven. • Were 15 Mr. Stuart exigcait-ii le serment dc tous ceux qu'il supposait disposes A voter noiir VOU9 P—Gaii^ralement ; dUant k I'Officier Rapporteur de leur faire avnler ic.1 troi» sermcns, ct il alia m(:me jusqu'^ exiger lo scrment de I'ago u desvcil* lards qui avaient les chcveux tons blancs. A-t-il poursuivi les pcrsonnes qu'il avail ainsi mcnaci'S ?— Qui, et les a traiiu- de tcrme en tcrme nerdunt plus dc deux ans, et eii exigenit de forts cnutioiinc- iiiens, tnndiH qu'il n h poursuivi aucun de ceux qui avaient voU: pour lui et auxquels il avait dit qu'ilsn'avaient ricn h cruindre. N'est-il pas a voire connaiuancc que dans le cour de I'clection susdite, M. Ic I'rocureur General ait menac6 publiqucroent au hustings J. K. Welles, Ecuyer, de le rapporter au (inuvcrneur s'll ne faisnit pus pins d'cffbrts pour soutenir son Election ?— Qui, une fois aumoius, et peut C'tre deux, et cclad'une maniiire violentc et tr^s imp<'rative. M. Stuart n'a-til pas engage i\ voter one ou deux personnes, qu'il croyait dispos^es h voter pour lui, et ces deux pessonnes ayant \oli. coTitro lui, ne les a-t-il pas I'ait poursuivre ?— Oui. - - , ,1./. -..,. ' r. ... .,.• -.. .. '. ,■.••» • •» /,-**. . - Lundi, 21 F^vrier, 1831. Jacques Labrie, ecuyer, au fauteuil. . ^ M. Henrtj Crebassa, examin6 de nouveau ; ' ' ' Est-il i\ votrc connaissance que dans le mois de mars dernier, le nomm^Scbiller, Iluissier dc la Cour du Banc du Roi, te soit prisente chez-vous i\ Sorel avec des depositions toutes dress^es, dont une <;tait h votre addresse ?— Oui, j'en ai vu une II mon udrcsse, une i\ I'adresse de M. Jones, une k celle de M. Von Iffliind, et une autre je crois pour M. Glackemeyer, Clerc du Poll, lors de la dite Section. II me semble qu'elles ^taient de I'^criture de M. le Procurcur-G^ndral. Connaissez-vous le contenu dc ces depositions ?->Elle3 allaient i\ dire que pen- dant I'election ou M. James Stuart se prt^sentait en opposiaon au Dr. Wolfred Nelson, il n'avait pas agi avec la violence qu'on lui attribuait, et qui dvait ^te prouv(^'e dans le terme prt^cedent de la Cour Criminelle ; qu'il n'avait aucunement cngag6 ctsollicite St. Germain a faire serment, qu'il 6tait qualifiee k voter sous Ic rapport de tel propriety, aiissi qu'il n'avait fait il aucun ^lecteur aucunes menaces de les poursuivre, lors meme qu'ils votaient pour M. Nelson. Pourriez-vous procurer au Comit6 une copie de I'un de ces affidavits ? - Je n'en ai pas ici, mais je crois pouvoir vous en envoyer une quand je serais de retour chez-moi. (Le temoins a depuis trausmis I'affidavit k lui adress6 : voir I'Appen- dice (N. N.) k ce rapport.) Lequel de M. Stuart ou de M. Nelson, succomba dans la susdite (Election ? — Ce fut M. le Procureur G6nC'tal. Y a-t-il eu des poursuites pour parjurc contre ceux qui avaient vot^ k cette Election contre M. 'e Procureur-General ?— Oui, je crois qu'il y en a eu six ou sept. 16 Were there any proceedings for perjury taken against such as had voted lor Mr. Attorney General ? — Not to my knowledge ; althotigh Mr. Wolf-ed Nelson caused several persons to be apprehended, upon depositions under oath, before Magistrates ; anil I am sure that, with respect to Mt. St. Germain, he was not prosecuted. Mr. Michel Glackmeyer, again examined : What was the impression made on your mind, when you heard the Attorney General tell the voters that they had nothing to fear ? — I thought that Mr. At- torney made use of those expressions in order to get people to vote for him, and take away all fear of being prosecuted, from such as voted without being conscious of being qualiiied with r-^^jard to property. Who was ''' ♦hat fitileduc that Election ? — It was Mr. Attorney General. Do youkii^w that i^e Attorney General prosecuted lor perjury some of those who had voted at the said Election before the Criminal Court ? — Yes ; he prose- cuted five or six persons of those who had voted against him ; but I have no know- ledge of his having prosecuted any of those who had voted for him, although, according, to common report, several had been arrested, in virtue of depositions made before Magistrates. During the time of the poll, did you hear the Attorney General order any one 1.0 go directly and look at the property of those who had voted against him, in order to ascctain whether it was worth £5 ? — Yes ; he called to Triganne, and to a man named George, who w; 3 a servant on board a steam-boat, and when they caine back and told him it was not wurth £5, he told them to go and take them up, and carry them befoiea Magistrate, and I heard somebody say that two of them had been put under bad to appear at the Criminal Court of King's Bench. Did you see the Attorney General threaten Mr. Welles, agent for the Seigniory of Sorel, belonging to the Crown ? — Yes ; I heard him several times reproach Mr. Welles, because he did not exert himself enough with him at the pol!, anduonce he went so far as to say that if he did not support him with greater activity, he would report him to the Governor. Was an affidavit ready drawn up, offered to you in March 1830, with a request that you would swear to it ? — In March 1830, towards the close of the term of' the Criminal Court, Mr. Attorney General asked me at Montreal, at Rasco's, whether I had any knowledge that he had said at the |:oll at Sorel, that he alone, as Attor- ney General had a li^ht to prosecute thos^; who might vote for him at the Elec- tion. Upon which I told him that I did not recollect at the momen: whether he had said so or not ; that I did not say whether he had said so or not said so, but that I did not recollect having hi jrd it ; upon this he prepared an affidavit, in my absence, which he afterwards presented to me, and which I afterwards signed and swore tc, without reading it myself, Mr. Stuart having himself read it to me. As he wanted to alter something in it, whilst he was reading it, I requested him tu be very particular in not mentioning any thing but what I had said. The affidavit as it was read to me by the Attorney General, did not contain any thing but what I have mentioned in the beginning of this answer. It was at the Police Office, before Mr. Gale that I swore to that affidavit, which was not read over again to me by Mr. Gale. I kept no copy of it, and I do not know what hqs become of it, as the Clerk of the Attorney General put it in hip pocket. 4ndr6 Hi 17 Y a t-il eu des poursuites pour parjnre contre ceux qui avaient votd pour M. le Procureur du Roi ? — Non, k ma connaissance, quoique M. Wolfred Nelson en eut fait apprehender plusieurs sur des depositions faites sous serment devant des Magiblrats, et je suis assur6 que pour M. St. Germain il ne I'a pas he. '' % M. Michel Glackemeyer, examin6 de nouveau : — Quelle etait votre impression lorsque vous entendiez M. le Procureur-G^neral dire aux voteurs qu'ils n'avaient rien il craindre ? — Je pensais que M. le Procureur tenait ce langage pour engager les gens ii voter pour lui, et k dter les craintes d'e- tre poursuivis a ceux qui votaient sans se sentir qualifies sous le rapport de la pro- priety. Qui a succonibd dans cette election ? — M. le Procureur-Gdndral. Avez-vous connaissance que M. le r.uwureur-General ait poursuivi a la Cour Criminelle pour parjure quelques>uns de ceux qui avaient vote dans la susdite Elec- tion ? — Oui, il a poursuivi cinq k six personnes de celles qui avaient vote contre lui; maisie n'ai point connaissance qu'il ait poursuivi aucun de ceux qni avaient votE pour lui, quoique souvent la commune renommee il en ait (-te arrfite plu- sieurs eu vertu de depositions faites devant des Magistrals. Pendant la tenue au Poll avez-vous entendu le Procureur-Gendral ordonner a quelqu'un d'allerde suite examiner la propri6t6 de ceux qui avaient vote contre lui ann de s'assurer si elle valait cinq livres ? —Oui, il appelait Triganne et le nom- me George, serviteur d'un des Steam Boats, et lorsque de retour lis lui disaient qu'elle ne valait pas cinq livres, il leur disait dc les prendre et de les conduire chez un Magistrat, etj'ai entendu dire ;\ quelqu'un d'eux qu'ils avaient ete mis sous caution pour comparaitre il la Cour Criminelle du Bancdu Roi. Avez-vous vu le Procureur-Gen^ral menacer M.Welles, Agent de la Seigneurie de Sorel appartenant^ la Couronne? — Oui, je I* li plusieurs fois entendu repro- cher il M. Welles qu'il ne se tenait pas assez assidu avec lui au Poll, et une fois il allajusqu'ii lui dire que s'il ne soutenait pas plusactivement son Election {he •would report him to the Governor,) qu'il s'en plaindrait au Gouverneur. Vous a-t-on prEsent6 en mars 1830, un affidavit tout dress(''e, en vous priant de Taffirraer sous serment ? — En mars 1830, vers la fin du terme de la Cour Crimi- nelle, M. le Procureur-Gen^ral me demanda il Montreal, chez Rasco, si j'avais connaissance qu'il eut dit au Poll a Sorel, que lui seul comme l^rocureur-General avait le aroit de poursuivre ceux qui voteraient pour lui ii Selection ; je lui dis la- dessus que je ne me rappelait pas dans le moment sil lava t dit ou non ; que je ne disais pas qu'il I'eiit dit ou qu'il ne I'eut pas dit, mais que je ne me rappelait pas de I'avoir entendu. La-dessus il a dresse en mon absence un affidavit qu'il m'a presente apr^s, et que j'ai signe et affirm^ sans le lire moi-mt^me, lecture m'en ayant Hi faite par M. Stuart lui-meme. Comme il voulut changer quelque chose en le lisant je lui dls d'etre bien f>articulier ,\ nementionner que ceje disait. Tel que cet affidavit m'a 6t61u par e Procurcur-Gen^ral, il ne contenait rien autre chose que ce que j'ai mentionn6 au commencement de cette rdponse. C'est devant M. Gale, an Bureau de Police que j'ai affirme cet affidavit, quincme fut pas lu de nouveau parM. Gale, je n'on ai pas garde copie, el jignorece qu'il est devenu, le Clerc du Procureur-General I'ayant mis dans sa poclie. /lui. iC xi 18 Andr6 Amable Lavallie, Carter, of the Borough of Sorel : Are you an elector for the Borough of William Henry ? — Yes, I am an elector and a pro|,'ietor. Were you present at the Election which took place there iu 1827 .' — Yes; I was present for the greatest part of the time. Did you hear the Attorney General say at the hustings, that he alone, as Attorney General, had a right to prosecute those who voted for him at that election, and that they had nothing to fear ? — Yes ; several times ; I cannot say how often. Did he on the other hand say to such as voted for Mr. Nelson, that he would h7,ve them put in the pillory? — Yes ; several times. He spoke to them iu a most violent manner ; saying to them, " Take care what you are going to do, if you " have not a good right to vote, I will punish you, and I will have youpui in *• the pillory ; and Mr Nelson for whom you vote, will not; put his neck in " your place there. It is I that am the Attorney General." t)o you know that some of the Electors who had voted for Mr. Nelson were directly taken up, and by whose orders ? — The Attorney General several times sent different individuals toenquire respecting the propertiesof thevoters. Upon thcirreporthe caused several of Mr. Nelson's Electors tobe taken up, & taken before a Magistrate, where they were held to bail to appear at the Court of King's Bench. Do you know that since the election, affidavits have been made against several of the electors who voted for the Attorney General, as being guilty of perjury ? — Yes, I know that such affidavits have been made, and that those persons have been held to bail ; but they have never been prosecuted. Do you know whether those affidavits were put into the hands of the Attorney General ? — That is what I can not tell. Anloine Paul Hus dit Coumoycr, of the Parish of Sorel, Labourer : — Were you present at the Sorel Election in 1827 ? — Yes. Were you tiiere when the Attorney General took St. Germain's hand & placed it on the book, telling him that he could vote, and had nothing to fear ? — Yes, I was there, and 1 heard the Attorney General say to St. Germain, who was expres- sing to him his reluctance to take the oath, because he had given away his pro- perty to his children, & putting his hand himself upon the book " dont be afraid, " I will be answerable that your's is a good vote ; I should be very happy to have " twenty such.' Did you yourself vote at that Election ? — Yes. Had you not, however, given j^our property to your children ?— Yes, Sir;..and they pay me good interest for it : and if 1 did vote it was on account of what I had heard the Attorney General say to St. Germain. I thought that if St. Germ\in, who had given away all his property, had a right to vote, the greater reason there was that I should have the same right, as I had made a reserve of a piece of land, on which there was a small house. Did not Mr. Stuart then threaten you that he would have you put in the stocks? --Yes, when I gave my vote, he threatened me in a very violent tone, that he would prosecute me, and would have me put inpiison, in the stocks and in the pillory. Did he put his threats into e vecution ? — Yes, some time after the Election, he caused me to be apprehended, and for two years at least, I have not ceased, along with others, to be drag vjd from Term to Term, from Sorel to Montreal, to pass tlie whole Term there, without having my case tiied. % 1 I \ 19 AndrS Atnable LavalMe, Charretier du Bourg de Sorel -Oui, je suis ^lectenr et pro* -Oui, j'ar^tfi present .a Etes-vous ^lecteurs du Bourg de William Henry ?- pri^taire. Etiez'VOus present a I'^lection qui y eut lieu en 1827 ?- plus grande partie du terns. Avez>vous entendu dire au Procureur-G^n^ral siir le Hustings, que lui seul avait le droit de poursuiv-; comma Procureur-G^n^ral, ceux qui voteraient pour lui i\ cette Election et qu'jis n'avaient rien k craindre ? — Oui, plusieurs fois, je ne puis dire combien. A-t-il au contraire dit k ceux qui votaient pour M. Nelson qu'ils les feraient mettre au pilori ? — Oui, plusieurs fois ; il leur parlait d'une raani^re tout k fait violente, leur disant " Prenez garde a ce que vous alPez faire, si vous n'avez pas " bon droit de voter, je vous punirai et je vous Krai mettre au pilori ; et M. Nelson " pour qui vous votez ne mettra pas son cou k votre place ; je suis le Procureur- " General, moi." Avez-vcus connaissance que des ^lecteurs qui votaient pour M. Nelson aient €i€ imm^diatement arr^tes, et |par quel ordre ? — Le Procureur-G^n6ral envoy- ait plusieurs fois divers individus s'enquerir des propri^tls des voteurs ; surleur rapport il a fait arrfiter divers electeurs de M. Nelson, pour les faire conduire chez un magistrat, oil lis ^taient mis sous caution pour comparaitre k la Cour du Banc du Roi. Avez-vous connaissance que depuis I'election, des affidavits aient ^t6 faits contre divers electeurs qui avaient vote pour le Procureur-G^nfiral, commecoupables de paijure ? — Oui, je sais que de tels affidavits oiit Hi faits et que ces personnes ont iik mises sous caution, mais elles n'ont jamais 6t6 poursuivies. Savez-vous si ces affidavits ont it€ remis au Procureur-Gen^ral ?— C'est ce que je ne puis dire. Antoine Paul Hus ditCournoyer, laboureur, de la paroisse de Sorel. Etiez-vous present a I'Election de Sorel en 1827 ?— Etiez-vous \k lorsque M. le Procureur-G^n^ral a pris la main de St. Germain et la lui a mise sur le livre, en lui disant qu'il n'avait rien A craindre et pouvait vo- ter ? — Oui j'y ^tais, et j'ai entendu le Procureur-General dire a St. Germ?in qui lui exprimait sa repugnance a faire le serment, parce qu'il avait c6d^ ses biens i\ ses enfans,|en lui mettant lui-m^me la main sur le Iivr<^ • ne craignez point, je vous r^- ponds de votre voix, elle est bonne, je sorais uu uo^.me heureux d'en avoir vingt comme la vdtre. Avez vous-vous m^me vot£ k cette Eloction ? — Oui. Mais n'aviez-vous pas cependant donne vos biens a vos enfans ? — Oui, Mon- sieur, et ils me payent une bonne rente ; mais si j'ai vote, c'est en consequence de cequej'avais entendu dire;\ St. Germain par le Procureur du Roi ; je pensaisque si St. Germain qui avait donne tons ses biens avait le droit de voter, a plus forte raison devais-je avoir le m^me droit, ayant fait une reserve d'une piece de terre sur laquelle il y avait une petite maison. M. Stuartne vous mena?at.il pas alors de vous faire mettre au carcan ? — Oui, lorsc|ue je donnai ma voix il me meiia9a d'un ton trtis-violent, qu'il mc poursuivrait me ferait mettre en prison, au carcan, et au pilori. A-t-il mit ses menaces en execution ?— Oui, quelque terns apres I'Election il m'a fait appr6hender et pendant deux ans au moins, je n'ai pas cesse d'etre, ainsi que d'autres, traine de terme en ternies de Sorel il Montreal, pour y passer tous le terme sans que Ton m'ait fait mon procOs. Ets- Ull. ^ J.-^.!.. rrzT^ 20 Is it within your knowledge that any who voted for Mr. Stuart, have been pro- secuted for perjury ? — I have no knowledge of it ; and I verily believe that not one of them has been prosecuted. AlesU Paul Htis dit Coumoyer, son of the preceding witness, farmer, of Sorel : — Were you present at the Election which took place at Sorel in 1827 ? — Yes, 1 remained there almost the whole time of the Poll. Who were the Candidates, and which of them failed at that Election ? — The Candidates were Dr. Wolfred Nelson, and the Attorney General, Mr. James Stuart. It was the last who failed in his election. Did Mr. Stuart avail of his quality as Attorney General, to encourage some of the Electors who shewed reluctance to take the qualification oath as proprietors? — Yes, several times towards those whom he knew were inclined to vote for him, and among others, towards one lVan9ois Gazaille dit St. Germain. Did St. Germain offer himself twice to vote ? —Yes, the first time, he went back, upon Dr Nelson's remarking to hin, that as he had given his property to his son, he had no longer any right to vote upon it, adding, " Listen, Pcre St. Germain, " step aside, and make enquiry from persons of information, whether you have a " right to vote or not ; for my part I tell you, you have not any right to vote." Then some one of St. Germain's friends took him aside in the pudlic square, where the Poll was held. The Poll was then transferred to the Presbytery ; and in the mean time, Mr. Stuart went and spoke to St. Germain; and the moment after St. Germain came forward towards the Poll, with the appart Tt intention of voting, but without saying any thing. The Returning Officer asked him whether he came to vote. He answered that he did come to vote. Mr. Nelson observed to him for the second time that he had no right to vote. Whereupon Mr. Stuart told him that he had nothing to fear ; that Mr. Nelson was a good Doctor, but was not acquainted with the law. I then perceived St. Germain draw back, as if he was afraid of voting; but the Attorney General then went towards him, took hold of his hand, and put it on the Evangelist, and said to him, " Dont listen to •' that, take the oath and give your vote ; I am the Attorney General, and I alone " have the rigiit of prosecuting.'' Upon this St. Germain took the three oaths and voted for Mr. Stuart. Did the Attorney General, (James Stuart,) during the duration of the Poll, of- ten make use of the express ons, •' Dont be afraid, I am the only one m ho, as At- torney General, can prosecute you," or words to that eflect, towards those whom he supposed, were inclined to vote for him ? — Yes, Sir, 1 heard him make use of those expressions, several times, and particularly towards one named Adamt^ to one named Maney, and to others whose names I do not recollect. Did Mr. Stuart at times make use of threats towards those who voted against him, that he would prosecute them for perjury? — Yes, and that very often. He told them lie would prosecute them ; that he would have them put in prison and placed in the pillory, and that Mr. Nelson would not put his neck there instead of theirs. What do you believe Mr. Stuart said all those things for? — To prevent those who were inclined to vote for Mr. Nelson, from doing so. Did he put all his threats into execution ?— He prosecuted several perse ns, and particularly my father, who was dragged up to the Criminal Court, for six Teuuo, without at any time having his trial. Was there during the Election, any person taken up, and held to bail, by order ot n ( 121 Est-il tl votre connaissance qu'll ait ^t6 poursuivi pour par^iire qiielqu'un de ceux qui avaient vote pour M. Stuart ? — Je n'en ai pas cle connaissance, etje crois bien qu'il n'y en a pas eu de poursuivi. . ^ j ,! Alexis Paul Htis dit Cournoi/er, fils du pr^cMent, cultivateur de Sorel : — Etiez-vous present a I'EIection qui eut lieu a Sorel en 1827 ? — Oui, j'y suis de- meurl presque tout le terns du poll. Quels 6taient les Candidatset quel estcelui qui succomba danscette Election? — Les Candidats 6taient Messrs. le Dr. Wolfred Nelson et le Procureur-Gen^ral, M. James Stuart ; cefut ce dernier qui succomba. M. Stuart usa t-il de sa quality de Procureur du Roi pour rassurer qnelques-uns des Electeurs qui avaient de la repugnance k faire le serment de qualification sous le rapport de la propriety ? — Oui, et ;\ plusieurs reprises envers ceux qu'il savait ctre disposes a voter pour lui, et entr'autres envers le nomm6 Fran9ois Gazaille dit St. Germain. St. Germain s'est il presente deux fois pour voter ? — Oui. la premiere fois il se retira sur ce que le Dr. Nelson lui remarqua qu'ayant donne ses biens a son fils, il n'avait plus le droit de voter, ajoutant '* tenez Pierre St. Germain, retirez vous k I'ecart, informez vous k des gens sages qui vous diront si vous avez, ou si vous n'a- vez pas le droit, de voter, moi, je vous dis que vous ne I'avez pas :'' Alors quelqu'un des amis de St. Germain le tira a I'^cart sur la place publique ou se te- nait le poll, hk dessus le poll fut transferred au Presbytere, pendant quoi, M. Stuart alia parler k St. Germain, et I'instant d'apr^s ce dernier s'avan^a au poll dans I'intention apparente de voter, mais sans rien dire. L'officier Rapporteur lui demanda s'il venait voter. II repondit qu'il venait voter. M. Nelson lui ob- serva pour la seconde fois qu'il n'en avait pas le droit. Surquoi M. Stuart lui dit qu'il n'avait rien ^craindre, que M. Nelson, 6tait bon m^decin, mais qu'il necon- naissait pas les lois. J'apper9u alors St. Germain se retirer en arri^re comme s'il eut craint de voter ; maisM. le Procureur du Roi s'avanca alors vers lui, lui prend la main, la lui met sur I'Evangile, en lui disant, " n'^coutez point, prenez le ser- ment et donnez votre voix, je suisle Procureur du Roi, moi seulj'ai le droit de poursuivre." Sur quoi St. Germain prit les trois sermens et vota pour M. Stuart. M.le Procureur du Roi (James Stuart) a-t il souventfait usage pendant la tc- nu du poll, de ces expressions : Ne craignez point, je suis le seul qui comme Pro- cureur au Roi puisse poursuivre, et autres mots semblables, envers ceux qu'il croyait disposes k voter pour lui ? — Oui, Monsieur, je I'ai entendu faire usage de ces expressions plusieurs fois notamment envers les nomm^s Adams, Bonhomme Meney, et d'autres encore dont je ne me rappelle pas les noms. M. Stuart a-t-il quelqnes fois menac6 ceux qui votaient contre lui de les pour- suivre pour parjure ?— Oui, et trfis souvent. II leur disait qu'il les poursuivrait, les ferait mettre en prison etconduire au pilori, p(, que ce n'est pas M. Nelson qui irait mettre son cou k leur place. Pourquoi pensez-vous que M. Stuart disait toutes ces choses ? — Pour detourner de voter pour M. Nelson ceux qui auraient ^te disposes k le faire. A-t-il mis ^ execution toutes ces menaces ? — 11 en a poursuivis plusieurs et no- tamment mon pfere, qui a ^t6 traxno a la cour criminelle pendant six termes, sans toute fois que son proems eut lieu. Y a-t-il eu pendant I'EIection mcme, quelque personne d'arr^t^e et de misesous caution •m jiurnifNv 4|rf »i.r,v ''5T?r'fa'!WB.!JS™i';'.*!!!JKHM»iP ""WET 22 of Mr. otuart ? v leage that he prosecuted any. without being qua- « How long ago,,... °' ""'"'"S » ">"»-"«)■ of S„„I :_ > ^^^'^C^-^i/r'"^^'^^"^^.^. Z^^f «.e Peace. Had jou opportunities of h-^?/*''® ^^ace ?-l was often. ^^ ^°* ''^'"soften at the Poll J* ,. Was that election k« . '"^ '''^ ^^^ction .'-Verv During the nn I i5®."'^ contested P-Verv ^ , ^ shewed ?reJ„S ^"^ '* Wear to you \ul T'"'^ contested. reluctance to take the proSXTpl.fc" ^""« ^^r'' -^o .u2fer°"«^-^"««i't Germain, one of the. P v . Did not Mr. Attornev r„ , ' ''^' °"« "^ that ^ ^."'•mr.S^'JdS'^^''' ware medra '° "'"'''''■' *"- / wwserved to persons whom he Jgst others, •ad voted, '^r^nt, and oe one of doing bitn igniory of overnor if was said gh it was nag qua. 2d caution par les ordres de M. Stuart ? — Oui, il y en a eu plusieurs, apr^s avoir donn£ leur vote, et entr'autres Louis Allard et Joseph Buckner. Comment cela s'est>il pass6 relativement it Allard ? — Aussitdt qu'il eut v6t^ M. Stuart ordonna au Dr. Anthony Von IfHand d'aller dresser un warrant et de faire firendre Allard, ce qui fut ex^cut^ sur le champ ; j'avais 6t6 moi-m^me requis de ui servt'r de caution, mais d'autres se trouv^rent pr^s avant moi, et je fus ainsi priv6 de lui rendre ce service. M. Stuart n'at-il pas aussi menac6 M. Welles, I'agent de la seigneurie de Sorel, qui appartient A la Couronne, de porter plainte contre lui au Gouverneur, s'il ne prenait pas plus de peine pour soutenir son election ? — Oui, cela s'est dit en ma prffsence. M. Stuart a-t-il poursuivi quelqu'un de ceux qui ont vot6 pour lui, quoiqu'il fut notoire que plusieurs d'entr'eux avaient pris le serment et avaient vot^ sans etre qualifies ? — Je n'ai pas connaissance qu'il en ait poursuivi. Mardi, 22 Fevrier 1831. *eace ? first of ths re- Attor- ■Very who that jng 'or »rd c- n e Jacques Labrie, Ecuyer, au Fauteuil. Anthony Von Iffland, Ecuyer, r^sidant au Bourg de Sorel . — Depuis quand avez-vous cesse d'agir comme Juge de Paix ?— Depuis la Nou- velle Commission de la Faix vers le premier de Decembre, ou j'ai €ii compris, mais je n'ai point pris les sermens n^cessaires. Etiez-vous h. Sorel lors de l'61ection contest^e entre le Frocureur-General et Wolfred Nelson, en 1827?— Oui. Etiez-vous alors Juge de Paix en exercice ,' — Oui. Avez-vous eu occasion de vous tenir souvent au poll pendant I'clection ?— Bien souvent. L'electiou a-t-elle 6t6 chaudement contestee ? — Tres-chaudement contest^e. Vous estll apparu durant la tenue du poll qu'il s'y etaient pr^sent^s des 61ec- teurs qui aient inontr6 quelque repugnance k prendre le serment de qualification sous le rapport de la proprietd ? — Plusieurs. Le nomm6 Gazallle dit St. Germain n'a-t-11 pas 6t6 de ce nombre ?— Oui, il £tait de ce nombre. N'est-ce pas M. le Procureur-g^neral qui a encourage cet homme a prater le serment, en lui disant, " votez mon ami, votre voix est bonnn j je voi'drais en avoir vingt de semblables," ou autres expressions de la mCme teneur ? — Je ne croispas que je fusse present au moment meme ; ni<)isje I'ai entendu dire k plu- sieurs personnes I'instant apr^s. Ne pensez-vous pas que ces expressions de M. Stuart comme Procureur.g^n6ral, aient pii engager d'autres personnes non mleux qualifiees que St. Germain, k voter dans cette election ?— Sans doutc, s'il s'est servi de ces expressions. M. Stuart n'a-t-il pas souvent menace ceux qui votaient contre lui, deles pour- sulvre pour parjure.' — Ceux qu'il croyalt n'^tre pas qualifies ; il les meDa9ait de les poursuivre pour parjure. Ne leurdisait-il pas en ces occasions qu'il Ics poursulvralt, les ferait mettre en ?rison et conduire au pilorl ou au carcan, d'oii M. Nelson ne les retirerait pas? — 1 fit reroarquer frequemment aux personnes qu'il croyait n'etre pas qualifiees, qu'elles w^ 24. i :i il a iii he conceived unqualified, tliat they should be prosecuted for peijury, and explain- ed the law touching the penalties, such as imprisonment and pillory. Did he act in that way, without distinction, both towards those who voted for him. as those who voted for Mr. Nelson ? — No. Whose votes then did he so threaten ? — Those of the opposing candidate. Were there any amongst those who voted against Mr. Stuart at that election, who were arrested and held to bail, immediately after having voted ? — There were several, about five or six, who were arrested during the election, imme- diately after having voted. Did you yourself grant any warrants of arrest ? — Of course, upon the deposition of two persons, 1 immediately issued the warrants. Were not voters taken betorc you under arrest, before you had issued the war- rants ? — I cannot recollect, except issuing the warrants upon the depositions. Did you hold them to bail, to appear at the Court of King's Bench ? — Of course. Were all of them prosecuted ? — ^They were prosecuted. Were you present at the poll when one Allard voted? — I was. When he voted, did not tne Attorney (ieneral order you to apprehend him in your quality as magistrate ? — He did not command me to do so, but said that I {}eing a magistrate, he would send two persons to depose before me. Then I went along with these two persons to my house, and received the depositions. Did the Attorney Gendral, to your knowledge, threaten any public function- aries, to complain to the Governor, ii'tliuv did not actively promote his election ? — Yes, he did one public functionary, ^Ir. J. K. Welles, agent of his Majesty's seigniory, and barrack-master. Did it not appear that Mr. Stuart, by such a threat, gave it to be understood, that the then administration, desired and were favorable to his election ?— -That is very natural, of course when a public functionary is threatened. Did you not sometimes hear Mr. Stuart, pending the duration of the poll, say to one named Triganne, a bailiff, and to two others, named Wilmot and George, to go directly and value the property of such as had just voted against him ; and do you know, that on their report, that the property was not worth £5, he caused them to be arrested ? — I cannot recollect tne names, but I remember perfectly well that he sent two persons to estimate the property of Allard. It is on the re- port of these persons that he was arrested. Do you know that depositions were made against some of the electors, who were supposed to be unqualified, who had voted for the Attorney General ? — I believe there were two or three, but I was not the magistrate who received them. Were those depositions put into the hands of the Attorney General ? — I do not know. I believe the magistrate was Mr. Douaire Bondy ; he must, no doubt have sent the deposition to the Clerk of the Crown. I remember now, and I desire to state, that in one of these cases, Mr. Douaire Bondy, having ordered in the war- rant, against one Eilward Maiming, who had voted for the Attorney General, that he should be 1 ought before him or any other Magistrate ; the said Manning was brought before me j I received the recognizance, and sent it to the proper officer. Were Mr. Stuart's voters who were thus apprehended, proceeded against, and did they take their trials ? — No. In point of fact, is it within your knowledge that since the present Attorney General is in office, he is in the habit of prosecuting alone for criminal offences, and that the Solicitor (ieneral does not even interfere with the prosecutions f — The Solicitor General has not, to my knowledge, interfered with the prosecu- tion bince the Attorney General is in office. Did i .•',' Iii 25 / qu'elles seraient poursuivies pour parjure, et il expliquait quelle ^tait la loi rela- tivcment au parjure, comme I'empiisonnement et le piiori. Fn a-t-ii agi indistinctement envers ceux qui votaient pour lui ou pour M. Nelson ? — Non. Quels voteurs mcna9ait-il done aln?i ? — Ceux du Candidal oppos6. Y a-t-il eu quelqu'un de ceux qui ont vote contre M. Stuart dans cette (flection d"arret6 et de mis sous caution ininu'diatement aprcs avoir vote ? — Plusicurs ; environ cinq ou six ont et6 arretes pendant I'election, imniidiatement apris avoir vot6. Avcz-vous vous meme donne des warrants d'arrestation ?— Certainement, sur la deposition de deux peisonnes, j'cmanai aussitot les warrants. N'a-t-on pas conduit devant vous des voteurs en I'tat d'arrestation, avant que vous eussiez cmanc les warrants ? — Tout ce que je nie rappelle c'est d'avoir 6mant- des warrants. Lesavez-vous admis a caution pourcomparaitre a la Cour du Banc du llci? Certainement. Tons ont-ils^'tt5 poursuivis? — lis ont ^te poursuivis. Etiez-vous present au poll lorsque le nomme Allard alia voter ?—J'y ('tais. Lorsqu'il eut vote, le Procureur-General ne vous ordonna-t-il pas de le faire apprdiender en votrequalite de magistral ? — 11 ne me commanda pas de le faire ; mais il dit que, comme j'ttais niagislrat, il cnverrait deux personnes faire leurs depositions devant moi ; je me rcndis alors chcz-moi avec deux personnes, et jo rc9us leurs depositions. M. le Procureur-Gi neral a-t-il a votre connaissance menace quelque fonctior.- naires publics de se plaindre d'eux au Gouverneur, s ils ne flivorisaieiit pas active- mcnt son election ? — II a ainsi menace' un f'onctionnaire public, M. J. K. Wells, agent de la soigneurie de Sa Majeste, et Intendant des Casernes, II parait par cette menace que M. Stuart donnait a entendre que I'administra- tion d'alorsdesirait et favoiisuit son election? — C'est une supi)Osition toute natu- relle, lorsque c'est un f'onctionnaire imblic qui est monssco. Avez-vous qnclques ibis eutendu M. Stuart pendant la tenue du poll, dire a un nomme Triganne, Uuissier, et aux nommc's Wiimotet Ceorgc, d'aller dc suite estimer la propriJte de ceux qui venaient de voter contre lui, et avez-vous con- naissance que sur leur rapport quo la propriety ne valait pas £5, il les fit arrcter ? — Je ne puis me rap])eler leurs noms ; mais je me souviens parfaitement bien, qu'il envoya deux personnes estimer la proprictti d'Allard ; ce I'ut sur le rapport de CCS personnes qu'il f'lit arrete. tst-il a votre connaissance qu'il y ait eu des depositions de faites contre quel- qucs-uns des electeurs supposes non qualifies qui avaicnt vote pour M. le Procu- reur-general ? — Je crois qu'il y en eu deux ou truis ; mais je ne t'us pas Ic magis- tral c]ui les re9Ut. Ces depositions ont-elles ijte remises au Procurcur-General ? — Je ne sais pas; je crois que le magistral qui kt. reeut t'ul M. Douaire IJondy ; il n'aura pasmanqw.- sans doute de les transmettre au Greiiier de la Couronne : Je merapjielle mainte- nant et je desire dire que dans un de ces cas, M. Douaire Bondy, ayantordonne, dans un warrant contre un nomme iidward Manning, qui avail vote pour le Pro- ctireur-guural, qu'il i'ut amene devant lui ou devant quelqu'autrc mngistrat, le dit Manning f'utamene devant moi. .le re9us le cautionnemeiit ctjc I'cnvoyai ;'i I'oflicicr a qui il appartient. Les voteurs de;\i. Stuart cjui ont e'te ainsi arretes, ont-ils etc poursuivis et leur a t-on fait leur proces ?- Non. En point do fait, est-il h votre coiiiuiissiinco que dcpiiis que le present Procu- reur-general est en office, il a pour luibitude de ])oursuivre seul pour les offences criminelles, et que le Solliciteiir-geiural ne se mele pas memc des poursuitcs ?-- Le Sollicitcur-general a nia connaissance, ne s'cst pas mele des poursuitcs crimi- nelles, dcpuis que le present Procureur-g^'iieral est en oHice. Dans _ *•. ^...'MJW^i*^ 1 liil ; V 26 Did not, in the month of March last, at the close of the Criminal Term, or at any other time, the Attorney Uencral send a man named Schiller, a bailiff of the Court of King's Bench, or some other person, to Sorel, with ready written affida- vits to be sworn to by such persons as were disposed to do so ?— I can not recollect the time, but it is within my knowledge that a man of the name of Schiller came down to Sorel, for the purposes mentioned in the question. Did you see those affidavits? — I have. What did they contain ? -I believe that there are some at Sorel in my posses- sion. I can produce one or two, or probably three. They are very different from each other ; but they all tended, more or less, to exculpate the Attorney General from the various accusations which had been laid against him. What were the chief accusations from which he endeavoured to exculpate him- self? — That of having used language at the hustings that he, as Attorney General, was the only person who had a right to prosecute cases of perjury. I can not re- collect as to the rest. I believe he pretended also, that he had not used violence in the Election. There was another deposition addressed to St. Germain, the con- tents of which I do not recollect. Did these depositions state that he hud not threatened the Electors who had voted rgainst him at the Election ? — They merely stated that he had not employ- ed any words which went to say that he was, as Attorney General, the only person who could prosecute them. Did you swear to the depositions that were addressed to you ? — Yes with al- terations. Whose are the depositions of that nature which you said you had in your pos- session? — They are those of persons who refused to swear upon them. That of St. Germain was never sent to him, he residing at a great distance. Will you produce them to the Committee ?— If I can lay my hands npon them, I shall transmit them to the Committee. Do you know if those depositions were in the hand writing of the Attorney General ? — I believe some of them were ; that of Mr. Crebassa was cer- tainly. What was the general impression at Sorel, as to the effect which the threats of the Attorney General, and the influence of the administration had upon the freedom of the Election? — They had not that effect, because the voters seemed very determined ; but it tended very much to restrict the freedom of the election. Did not the then Governor in Chief, Lord Dalhousie, reside at William Henry during the said election ? — Yes, he lived in the Borough. Do you know if the Governor interfered in the said election ? — I have a know- ledge that some letters passed between the Cure and the Governor, or his atten- dants, respectmg the election. Did Mr. Schiller tell you that it was the Attorney General who had givenhi m the depositions of which you have spoken .' — I think he did. Did not Mr. Schiller say any thing also to you on the same subject, as coming from the Attorney General ? — I do not recollect. Did not the Attorney General, during the Election, threaten the Returning Officer, Mr. Crebassa, .saying that if he did not take care of himself, he would cause him to lose certain advantages of which he had the enjoyment under Go- vernment? — I do not recollect that he ever said that; but he often said to the Re- turning Officer that he was a stupid fellow, and did not know his duty, or some &uch other abusive words. Do 27 al- Dansietnois de Mars dernier, a I'issue du tcime criminel, on en aucun autre terns M. le Procureur.G6n(!'ral n'a t-il pas cnvoyd le nomm^ 8chiller, huissier de la Cour du Banc du|Iloi, ou une autre personne, \ Sorel, avec des d^-positions Sorites, pour ^tre affirm^ sous scrment par telles personnes qui sernient dispostes h lo faire ? — Je nc me rappele pus le terns, mais il est i\ ma connaissance qu'un nomm6 Scliilier, est venu ;\ Sure), pour I'objet mentionn^ dans cette question. Avez-vous vu ces depositions ? — ^Je les ai vues. Que contenaient elies ?— Je crois que j'en ai quelques-unes chez-moi ^ Sorel ; j'en puis produire une ou deux et probablement trois ; elles etaient bien dii)'^'- rentes des unes avec des autres mais elles tendaient toutes plus ou moins i\ discuU per le Procureur Gcni-ral des accusations diverses qui avaient hd. port6es cen- tre lui. Quelles 6taient les principules accusations dont il cherchait i\ se disculper ?— Celle d'avoir ditau Hustings, (^ue lui comme Procureur-G^neral ^tait lascule per- sonne qui avait droit de poursuivre les cas de parjure. Je ne me rappele pas le restant ; je crois qu'il pretendait aussi qu'il n'avait pas U86 de violence pendant I'Election. II y avait une autre dt[-position adress^e i\ St. Germain, dont je ne me rappelle pas le contenu. Ces depositions exposaient-t-elles qu'il n'avait pas fait des menaces aux Elec- tcurs qui avaient vot6 centre lui aux Elections ? — Elles exposaient simplement qu il n'avait fait usage d'aucune parole tendant k dire qu'il ^tait comme Procureur Ge- neral, la seule personne qui p(tt les poursuivre. Avez vous affirme sous serment la deposition qui vous 6tait adressde ? — Oui, en y faisant des alterations. De qui sont les depositions de cette nature que vous dites avoir en votra posses- sion ? — Elles sont des personnes qui ont refus6 d'yjurer ; celles deSt. Germain, nc lui a jamaisdt6envoy6ea cause qu'il ri'sidait a une grande distance. Les produirez-vous au Comite ? — Si je puis mettre la main dessus, je les trans- mettrai au Comit^. Savez-vous si ces depositions Etaient (fcrites de la main du Procureur-G^n^ral ? — Je crois que quelqu'unes I'^taient. Celle de M. Crcbassa I'dtait assurement. Quelle etait I'impression gen^rale il Sorel, quant aux effets que les menaces du Procureur-G^neral, et I'influence de I'administration ont cues sur la liberty de I'Election ? — Elles n'ont pas en cet effet, parceque les voteurs paraissaient bien determines ; mais cela tcndait beaucoup 4 gener la liberty de I'Election. Le Gouverneur en Chef Lord Dalliousie, ne restait-il pas alors k William Henry ? — Oui, il demeurait dans le Bourg. Savez-vous si le Gouverneur intervint dans la dite Election ? — J'ai eu connais- sance de quelques lettres que se sont ecrit le Cur6 et le Gouverneur, ou les per- sonnes qui etaient aupr^s de luiausujetde I'clection. M. Schiller vous a-t-il dit que c'etait le Procureur-General qui lui avait re mis les depositions dont vous avez parl6 ?— Je crois qu'il me I'a dit. M. Schiller ne vous a-t-il pas dit quelqu'autre chose sur le meme sujet comme venant de la part du Procureur-Gcneral ? — Je ne me rappelle pas. Le Procureur-General n'a-t-il pas pendant la dur^e de I'election menace I'Offi- cier-rapporteur M. Crebassa, etditques'il ne prenait pas garde ^ luiil lui ferait pcrdre quelques avantagos dont il jouissait sous le Gouvernement ? — Je ne me rappelle pas qu'il ait jamais dit cela ; mais il a souvent dit i\ I'Officier-rapporteur qu'il etait un imbecile, et qu'il neconnaissait pas son devoir, ou quelques autres paroles offensantes de cette nature. Croyez- 28 Do you think that those words had a tendency to intimidate the Returning Officer? — It might have had that tendency. •V Wednesday, '23d February, 1831. Jacqurs Ladrik, Esquire, in the Chair. Jacques Viger, of Montreal, Esquire. Were you one of the members of the Grand Jury of IMontreal, in the moutii of March 1830?— Yes, I was one of tiicm. Couhl you produce to liie Committee a list of the members who composed that Jury? — Yes, 1 produce a list of tlio Jurors who were sworn in ; Messrs. T. A. Turner, Chairman, Francois I.angucdoc, Jacques Viger, I'ierre Letourncux, Ro- bert Armour, Alexis Laframboisc, Ciiuries Courteau, Lawrence G. Brown, Joseph de la Ikoqucnc, Norman Ik tliunc, Joseph T. Barrett, Norbert Vigneau, Gode- froi BeaudLt, E. B. iMancherc, Hercule Olivier, Thomas Busby, J. B. Constan- tin, Horatio Gates and Thomas Barron. Were any bills laid before you which you considered such as should not have been brought before the (irand Jury of the Criminal ( 'ourtof King's liench, and (lid you make any presentments on that subject? — Yes, on the last day of the Term, under that persuasion, we made a presentment, whereby we represented, that, in the course of that Term, a number of bills of indictment for minor offences had been laid before us, which in our opinion, ought to have been carried before the Quarter Sessions in the months of October and January preceding. The .hiry likewise complained that several separate bills of indictment were laid be- foie us, against the same persons, which might and ought to have been included in one sameand sole bill of indictment : Can you bring forward any proof in confirmation of what you state? — I will state such bills as gave rise to those representations. 1st. On the first of Alarch, against Louis Martel, a domestic servant, for having obtained from a Boot and Shoe maker, in the name of his master, a pair of Boots i)f the value ofdOs. sterling, 'llie arrest took place on the 17th of December l>'^'.), and the Jury were of opinion that this man ought to have been tried at the Quarter Sessions in the month of January 1830. ■Jiul. A bill against .f. B. Blondin, for stealing a Bank-bill of the value cf As. (ill. sterling. He had been taken up on t!u l/th December, and conse- quently he ought to have been tried at the Qn rter Sessions in the nionih of January. .'ird. Two bills against Michel Blaisdil Perry. :ind Jean INLirie Turgeon dit Des- jardins, for stealing a Mare helnngingto a man named Macumber, and a Gelding belonging to an Indian. The Jury cunsidercd that the Attorney General ought to have presented but one bill of indictment, since both the horses had been stolen on the same day, and liom the same inclosureand of the same person who had them in possession, as it will be seen he did with respect to other indictments, I't which mention will be made hereafler. 4th. A bill against John Burbage, for having attempted to steal a bag of Flour, 29 Croyez-vous que ces paroles eussent la tendance d'intimidcr TOfBcicr-rapporteur i -Elles auraient pu avoir cette tendance. Mercredi, 23J Fivrier, 1831. Jacques Labrie, ^xuyer, au fauteuil. Jacques Viger, ecuyer, de Montr(''al : — Eticz-vous undes membres du grand-jury de Montreal dans le moisdemars 1830? — Oui,j'cn<''tai9 un. Pouvcz-vous produiro k ce comitc une liate des membres de ce jury ? -Oui, je pro- duiscelle desjuri'squi ont ct6 assermentes ; M.M. T, A.Turner, president, Fran9ois Langucdoc, Jacques Viger, Pierre L^tourneux, Robert Armour, Alexis Lalram- boise, Charles Coiirteaii, I.awrence G. Brown, Joseph de la Broquerie, Norman Bethune, Joseph T. Barret, Norbert Vigneau, Godefroi Beaudet, J. B. Fran- chiire, Hercule Olivier, Thomas Busby, J. Bte. Constantin, Horatio Gates ct Thomas Barron. Vous fut-il present*'- alors, des bills que vous consid^rates comme n'ayant pas du ttre porti's devant le grand-jury de la cour criminelle du banc du roi ; et fites- V0U3 un presentment a cet ("gard ? — Oui, le dernier jour du terme nous fimcs dans cette conviction un presentment, au moyen duquel nous repn'sentions que durant ce terme mfme, il nous avait (tc soumis un nombre d'accusations, (^hills of indictment,) pour offenses mincures, qui, suivant nous auraient dii etre portt'es dans les sessions trimestrielles des mois d'octobre et de Janvier prc'cc'dcns. Le jury se plaignait encore de ce qu'on lui avait soumis contre les memes personnes plusieurs actes d'acrui:ation qui auraient pu et du etre rcnfermds dans un seul et meme act d'accusation. Pouvez-vous prcduiie aucune prcivc iil'appui de ces alleguds ?— Je citerai les bills qui ont donnt'' liju a ccsrcpr(!scntations : 1 ® . l.e Icr mars, nn bill contic Louis Martel, domestique, pour avoir obteiiu sous lenom de son maitre, cliez nn cordonnicr, une paire de bottes de la valour de 30s. sterling. L'arrestation avait cu lieu le 17 dficembre lH'29, et le jury fut d'avis que cet accuse aurait du Otre traduit aux sessions trimestrielles du mois de Janvier 1H30. 2 ° . Un bill contre J. Bte. lilondin, pour vol d'un billet de banque de la va- leur de 4s. Gd. sterling. II avait etc arrcHe Ic 17 dtcenibrc, et aurait par con- SL-quent du etre traduit aux sessions trimestrielles du mois de Janvier. .3 ° . Deux bills contre IMichel Blaisdit Perry, et Jean-Marie Turgeon dit Des- jardins, pour vol d'unc jnmcnt ap])artenant ii un nommc Macumber, et d'uii tlieval coupe appartcnant ;\ un Sauvage. Lc jury trouva que Ic ])rocureur-g( - ntral n'aurait du irescnter qu'unc seule accusation, vii que ces deux animaux avaient ^te voles le memo jour, du mt'me pare, ct de la meme peisonne qui les avaient en possession, comme on verra qu'il I'a fait par rapport a d'autres accu- sations dont il sera ci-aprrs ]\\\]l'. 4 ° . Un bill contre J. Burbage, pour tentative de voler une poche de farine, la ■>»gijp< jj ^ aa t — .i ■■., m sr-W"^*^-^ ■ 30 I i i) ^ riour, be'onging to the King, at Sorcl. lie was arrested on the 28th of December, 1829, and the Jury were of opinion that he might.have been tried at the Quarter Ses- sions in January 1830. .5th. A bill against Pierre Guertin, and Timothe Guertin, for stealing two bushels of Rye of the value of is. sterling;'. Pierre Guertin, who was the only one taken, had bp:n apprehended ^n the lUh of October 1829. Compare this case with those of Bernard and odey. The trial might have taken placo in October 1829, or in January 1630, at the Quarter Sessions in (hose two i\iontI:s. 6th. A single bill presented against Noel Bertrand, tor stealing tools of the value of £2 16s. sterling, the property of tiiree different persons. The arrest took ])lace on the l!th of November J 829. 7th. Two bills "."[ainst Joseph Champagne dit Godere. for stealing fourteen sheep, of which eight b".onged to AIf)ert Beaucaire, ?nd six to Marie Robert, but these la-jt V ere K^t out to Beaucaire, and in his posse? sion. The Jurv were of opinion thar only one bill of indictment ought to have been brought in, against Champagne, as the theft was committed on the same nay, from the same inclosure and from tlic same person. 8(h. 3d March : — A bill against J.B. Fournelleand Richard McGianis, for stealing two pincers and a hammer ot the value of Is; Gd. sterling. Arrest on the 18th .Sep- tember 1829. This indictment T.ightha^e been preferred before the Quarter Sessions in October 1829 or in January ISyo. 9th. A bill against John Carrol, for an attempt fo steal goods, the property of one Dyer. The accused was arrested on the 7th December 1829. 10th. A bill against Cha.les Charpontier, for stealing a table cloth of the value of ISs., arrest on tne Sd December 1829 ; Quarter Sessions in January 1830. 11th. Three bills of indictment pgainst Frar9ois Fournel, for having passed t\;ee counterfeit French half Crowns. The Jury thought that only one bill of indictment ought to have been presented agair'st the said Fournel, because these three half Crowns had been passed to the same p rson, namely, Jean B. Sicard, on the same day, and in the short space of nearly half an hou! ; that the sole entire recital of these three acts of the said Fournel was requisite to establish the criminality of one, and ttiat moreover the witnesses to be examined upon the three bills of indictment were the same. This offence ought besides, iu the opinion of the Jury, to have been carried before the Quarter Sessions of the month of January 1830, the imprisonment of the arrested dating from the 2d of December 1 829. 12th. 4th March : — A single bill against David Codey, for stealing sundry articles, the property of two different persons, value 8s. Indictments Ihroxcn out hif the Jury. 1st. A bill against William Brock, for assault and batter>'. Arrest on the Gth of De,.imber, 1829. 2(1. A bill against Pierre Millet, and Pierre Lachance, for stealing copper to the value of I2s. Pierre Millet was alone arrested on the 2d March 1830, (returned .ignoramus.) Is it besides within your knowledge that trials took place in the aume term, which, considering the nature of the indictment, might, and ought to, Iwebeen held before the Quarter Sessions of the Peace ? -I answer, yes. I was in Court, when on the first day of March term, the trial of Duncan Macnaughten for libel came on. He pleaded ^mV.y ; (arrest in the month of September, 1828.) It was for writing an abusive letter to a Commissioner for Small Causes. 2d. That of John Olivier, which took place on the 5th of Marcii, upon an indict' rrient S/ 31 la proprietd du Roi, ;\ Sorel. Arrestation le 28 dtcembre 1829. H aurait pu suivantle jury ^tre traduit u la session trimestrielle de Janvier 1830. .5 ° . Un bill contre '^ierre Giiertin et Tiiimoth^e Giiertin, pour vol de deux Illinois de seigle de la\aleur .le5s. sterling. Pierre Guertin seul appr^hend^'-, I'avait et6 le 11 octobrel829. Contiastez ce cas avec ceux de Bertrand et de Codey. Le proems auraitpuJHre fait en octobre 1829, ou en Janvier 1830, dans les sessions trimestrielles de ces deux inois. 6 ° . Un seul bill present^ contre Noel Bertrand, pour vol J'outils appartenant u trois personncsdifferentes. valeur £2 16s.. sterling; arrestation du 11 novem- bie 1329. 7°. Deux bills contre Joseph Champagne dit Godere, pour vol de quatoize moutons, donthuit appartenant ;\ Albert Beaucaire, et six ;\ Marie Robert, mais il3(''taient afferines a Beaucaire ev en sa possession ; le jury fut d'avis qu'il n'eut di\ etre port^e qu'une seule accusation contre Champagne, vu que le vol avail ^te fait le m^me jour, du m6me pare et bur la meme personne. 8 o . S mars : — Un bill contre J. Bte. Fournelle et Richard Macginriis,pour vol de deux pincettes et d'un martcau de la valeiir de Is 6d. sterling; arrestation 18 septembre 1829.| Cette accusation cut pu ctr*? porlte aux sessions de quartier en octobre 1829 on Janvier 1830. 9°. Un bill contre John Carrol pour tentative de vol d'efFets appartenant. lu iiomme Dyer ; I'arrestation de I'accuse est du? decembre 1829. 10°. Un bill contre Charles Charpentier pour vol d'une nappe de valeur de ISs.; arrestation du 3 decembre 1829; sessions de quartier en Janvier 1?30. ! ! ° . Trois bills d'indictement contre Francois Fournelle, pour avoir fait pas- ser trois faux ^-cus fran9a's. Lejury pensa quil n'eut du etre prcsente qu'un seul acto d'acr:iisation contre le dit Fournelle, parce qu'il avait pass^ ces trois 6cus a la meme personne, c'est-:\-dire, a Jean-Btc. Sicanl, le m{lmejour, et dans le court espace d*-"l-peu.prt^s une demi-heure ; que le r{;citentier de ces trois actes du dit Fournelle (?tait ntcessaire pour etabl r 'a criminalite d'un seul, les trois tcmoins a etre entendus sur les trois actes d'accusation ^tant d'ailleurs les mfmes ; le delit au. raitdu^tre^n outre suivant lejury, oort(5 devant la session trimestrielle du mois de Janvier 1830 ; I incarceration de laciusse etant du 2 de dtcembre 1829. 12 ° . 4 mars :~Un seul bill contre David Codey, pour vol d'effets apparte- nant a deux difidrentes pcrsonnes, de la valeur de Iiuit schelins. .■-^>4. AccusHtio7is rejeUees par le jury : — 1 ° . Un bill contre Wm. Brock, pour assaut et batterie ; arrestation le 6 de- cembre 1829. 2 ° . Un bill contre Pierre Millet et Pierre Lachance, pour vol de cuivre au montantde 12s. ; Pierre Millet seul apprehend^ le 2 mars 1830 ; (rapport ignO' ramus.) Snrait-il ;\ votre connaissance que dans le m^me terme, il fut fait des proct^s qui \\\ la nature des accusations, auraient pu et du ('tre faits devant les sessions trimes- trielles de la paix ? — Je lu'ponds que oui ; j'ctais en cour lorsque le ler joNr du termodo mars le procos de Duncan Macnaugliten pour libelle fut fait ; il plaida coupable, (arreslaticn du mois de septembre 1828 ;) c'ctait pour lettre injurieuse ^crite a un commissaire des petites causes. 2 ° . Celui de John Oliver, fait le ^ mars, sur accusation d'avoir vendu de lu viaiide 32 iticnt of having sold unwholesome meat. The bill found by the Grand Jury was in September term 1829' He was acquitted. ;?rd. That of William Covey, for intending to pass counterfeit money in his pos- session. True bill of tiie month of September, 1829. Confession the loth March IS30. Could you produce a statement of the proceedings of the Criminal Court in the month of March 1830, when you were one of the Grand Jury? — Yes — here it is. It is made up from notes taken by myself at the time, and I believe it to be cor- rect, (See Appendix P. r.) Do you know wliether before the month of March last, representations were made by the Grand Juries of the Criminal Courts of Montreal, against the prac- tice of prosecuting persons accused of minor ofl'ences, before the Courts of supe- rior jurisdiction, instead of before the Quarter Sessions of the Peace?— Yes. I know that such representations were made by tiie Grand Juries of the Court of King's Bench of February and March ISJJ, of tiie ('ourt of King's Bench of Au- yust and September, IS'ifi; oi the Court of Oyer and Terminer, of August, JS-29; and there was one also frcni the Grand Jury of the Quarter Sessions of April, 18aO. ix I ) k Thursday 2it/i Febr-'ariy. \83l. Jacques Lahiue, Plsquirc, in the Chair. Frs. X. Perrault, Esquire. Are you one of the Clerks of tlie Peace for the District of Quebec ? — Yes, since ISl;"), and I have been \v the oflice since 179^- Can you state what kind of ofl'eiices are brougiit before and tried at the Quar- ter Sessions of the Peace? — The practice in that respect has varied from the pe- riod wiien Mr. Fl'tcher j-rcsidod at tlic Sessions. Ail offences whicli v, ere not capital, perjury always excepted,) were indicteil and tried tliere ; but some time after, and even in ^Ir. Fietclier's timi-, the Magistrates liavinu; refused to sit i\\mn such serious cases, the practice was ciiangcd, and no oll'.er indictments came be- fore the Sessions, than against jiersons accusi il of >iuii)ie assault autl batter)- ; of .ss;ir.lts with intent to murder; of assaults ujjon public oilicers in tlie extcution ^' -' • • ■ '• • ' ■' '■■■■' !■'• i.M,:..^ of simple grand mors, such of their duly; of simple thefts to tiie amount of live shillings; of sii larceny under five pounds : public nuisanc. s of all kinds ; :'.ll misdeinc as obtaining money under false pretences, uttering cuiinterfot luom y, and otliors. Can you state out of what funds, all tlicsc dlFcniit kinds of offences are prose- cuted ?- The custom in this respect, has not always been the same. Form, rly, that is to say, about the yeir lsl(! and ISI7, we tooktii" money requiicd for the pro- secutions tiiat must be carried on at the expense of the public, out ot the funds wiiich were than calieil ]){)lice finuls, provided by the roatl-chest, o:itof\vhich the Statute of the 12 d'eorgi; III. cap, S, allowed the sum of one hundred po inds cur- rency to be drawn for that purpose; such at least is tiie impression that r. mains on iViy mind of the practice at tliat time. At thai period, the Executive Council upon the representations made to them by the Magistrates, and by tiie Clerks of !he Peace, formed u tariff which regulated our fees; which obliged us from that time f'lirward to keep books, in order to be enabled to make out the accounts whicli were to be laiil before the llxecutive Council, to be examined and regula- ted. This being done we received an order on the Receiver-General, who pays us out 33 viande mal-saine ; le bill trouve par le grand-juiv etait da terme de septembre 18^9; il fut acquitte. 3 ® . Celui de William Covey pour intention de passer de faux argent en sa possession; vrai bill du mois de septembre 18^9; confession du 10 mars 1830, Pourriez-vous produire un tableau de la Cour Criminelle du mois de mars 1830, oil vous etiez un des Grands-jur6s ? — Oui, le void ; il est fait sur des notes prises par moi dansle tems, et je le crois exact. (Pour le dit tableau voir I'Ap- pendice P. p.) Savez-vous s'il y a eu avant le mois de mars dernier des representations faites par leGrand-jur6 des cours criminelles de Montreal contre I'usage de traduire des personnes accus^es d'offenses mineures devant les cours dejurisdiction superieure, au lieu de les porter devant les sessions trimestrielles de la paix ? — Oui, je sais qu'il ya eu de telles representations par les Grands-jures de la Cour du Banc du Roi de fevrier et mars 18^? >, de cello du Banc du lloi d'aoiit et septembre 1820, et dela Cour d'Oyer et Terminer d'aoiit 1829, et il y en a aussi eu de la part du Grand-jure dela Session Trimestrielle d'avril 1830. Jettdi, 24 Fevrier 1831. r\ Jacques Ladrie, Eciiyer, au fauteuil. ■• *. ., F. X. PerrauU, Eciiyer : — Etes-vous un ' 's Greffiers de la Paix du District de Quebec? — Oui, depiiis 1815, et je suis uuos ce Bureau depuis 1798. Pourriez-vous dire quelles especes d'offenses sont portces et jugees devant les sessions trimestrielles de la paix ? — L'usage ^ cet ^gard a varie du tems que M. r'letcher pr<;sidait les sessions ; on y iudictait et jugeait toutes les offenses qui ii'smportalent pas la peine de mort, a rexceptior" toute fois du parjure ; mais qi elques-teins aprcs et m6me du tems de M. Fletcner les magistrals ayant refus6 «le singer sur des cas aussi graves, la pratique fut cliangce et il ne fut plus indictc devant les sessions que les personnes accusees d'assauts et batteries simples, d'assauts avec intention C tieurtre, d'assauts sur officiers publics dans I'ex^cution de lours devoi% pour les »^ols simples jusqu'au montant de vingt schelins, et le simple grand larcin au-dessous de cinq livres sterling, les nuisances publiques de toute e.spfece, tons les delits (misdemeanors,) comme d'obtenir des effets sous de faux pretextes, faire passer de la fausse monnaie et autres. Pouvez-vous dire avec quels fonds toutes ces sortes d'offenses sonl. poursuivies ? — L'usage a cet I'gard n'apastoujours et6 le meme ; ci-dcant, c'est-a-dire, jusque vers les annees 1816 ou 17, nous prenions les dcniers ntcessaires pour les pour- suites, qui doivent so faire aux dcpens du public a meme les fonds que Ton appe- lait alors Polkefunds, fouriiis par la caisse des cliemins, dou le Statut de la 42e. Geo. III. chap. 8, permettait que I'on tirat une somme de cent livres courant pour cet objet, telle est au moins I'impression qui ra'est restte de la pratique d'alors. A cet I'poque le Conseil Ex^cutif sur les representations ;\ lui faites par les Magis- trats ct par les Greffiers de la Paix, fit un larif qui fixait nos lionoraires, re qui nuus obligea des lors a tenir des livres, pour ctre en etat de faire des comptes qui devaient etre port^s devant le Conseil pour y ctre examines et regies. Cela fait ou nous donna un ordre L^ur le Ileceveur-Gtn6'al qui nous paye sur les fonds approprius .7-:^:- ■ f i 34 out of the funds appropriated by the Legislature towards that object. This prac- tice still continues. Is it not within youi' knowledge, that the Legislature has voted certain sums of money to defray the contingent expenses of the Office of the Peace, and also the unavoidable expenses incurred in the execution of your duties as ClerKS?— Yes ; und the first act of that nature which I am acquainted with, is that of 3d Geo. IV. cap. 38. How much was appropriated towards that purpose by that Act ? — It appropri.. ated for that purpose, two hundred pounds sterling for Quebec, and as much for Montreal, and directed that those sums should be applied to defray the ex- penses incurred by the apprehension and imprisonment of criminals, by order of the Chairman of the Quarter Sessions in those Cities, including the expenses of the Police-office, and the services of the Clerks of the Peace out of Ses- sion. Pleiie look over the statement (P. p.) of the proceedings of the Criminal Court of King's Bench for the District of Montreal, in March 1830, and tell us which of the indictments included in that statement would have been brought be- forethe Quarter Sessions Quebec ?— Numbers, 1,2, 10, 11, 14, 18, 19,20,24, 26, 27, 28, 29, 31 , 32, 35, . ' S, 49, 50. Do you still prosecute at yout ' ' larter Sessions at Quebec, cases of libel, of the sale of putrid and unwholesome meat, of intent to utter counterfeit money, and of j)erjury ? — The three first mentioned cases may be brought before and tried there. Cases of perjury may yet by the common law, and especially under the 8th of Elizabeth, be tried there ; but the Court is not in the practice of trying them, but they only submit the indictments to the Grand Jury, iu order to be aAerwards removed to the Criminal Court of King's Bench, in case the Grand Jury return true bills. You have said that the Executive Council, had given you a tariff, by which you were obliged to make out your accotints, in order to get paid ; can you produce that tariff ?— Here it is. 1 fyle a copy of it. {Tariff by the Executive Couticiljor the Clerks nfihe Peace ;] Deposition, - • » 5s. Warrant and Recognizance, 5s. ' Examination of Prisoner, - 2». 6d. Drawing an Indictment, - Os. 8d. Proceedings before Petty Jury, l3s. 4d. Original Subpsena, - ds. Copy, - - « -Is. Bench Warrant, - - - 5«. "' Precept to the Sheriff, - lis. ?d. Does the prosecution of an accused person in y - Sessions, cost much less to the Province in consequence of this tariflP, than i e Criminal Court of King's Bench ? — I reply that the expenses incurred by Gu. ./nment for prosecutions upon any criminal indictment, until conviction, or the discharge of the prisoner, at the Quarter Sessions, including affidavits, warrants, examinations of the prisoner, bill of indictmetit, subpoenas, charge to the Petty Jury, judgment, and copy for the gaolers, generally amount to Ihirty-seven shillings and sixpence currency ; whilst to the best of my knowledge, 5n the Criminal Court of King's Bench, if a bill is returned a true bill by the Grand Jury, and submitted to a Petty Jury, and the trial takes place, the Attorney«General alone does not receive less than seven pounds Ave shillings currency for his fees, exclusive of the cost of the processes issued 55 v/ ■/■ appropriSs par la Legislature pour cet objet ; cet usage se continue encore, (Voir I'Appendice O. o.) N'est'iUpas a vof.re connaissance que la Legislature ait vote certaines somtncs d'argent pour d^fiayer lea dspenses contingentes du Bureau de la Paix et les depenses inevitables dans t'ex^cution de vos devoirs comme Greffiers? — Oui, et le premier Acte de cette esp^ce que je connaisse est celui de la de. Geo. IV. Chap. 38. Combien cette loi appropriait-elle pour cet objet?<-'Elle appropriait pour cet objet deux cent livres sterling pour Quebec et autant pour Montreal, et enjoi- gnait de les appliquer aux depenses encourues dans I'arrestation et emprisonne- ment des criminels par ordre da President des Sessions de Quartier dans ces vilies, y compris les depenses du Bureau de Police et services rendus par les Greffiers de la P"'x hors des Sessions. Veuillez jetter la vue sur le tableau (P. p.— Voir I'Appendice marqu6 de ces Lettres) des proced^s de la Cour Criminelle du Banc du Boi pour le District de Montreal ea Mars 18dO, et nous dire quelles des accusations portees dans ce ta- bleau, auraient ^tk pontes devant les Sessions de Quartier i\ Quebec? — Les Nos. 1, 2, 10, 11, 14, 18, 19, 20, 24, 26, 27, 28, 29, 31, 82, 35, S9, 47, 48. 49, 50. Traduiriez-vous encore dans vos sessions trimestrielles k Quebec le cas de libelle, de vente de viande corrompue et malsaine, d'intention de passer de la fausse tnon- naie et de parjure?TT-Les trois premiers cas peuvent y etre port^s et jug^s et ce- lui de parjure par la loi commune et particuli^rement par la 8e. Elizabeth, pour- I'-it encore y etre porte, mais la Cour n'est pas dans I'usage de les y juger, ' eulement de souraettre I'accusation aux grands jures pour etre ensuite porte k hi Cour Criminelle du Banc du Roi, lorsque ces grands jur^s ont trouve qu'il y a raa- ti^re a proems. Vous-avez dit que le Conseil Executif vous a donnd un tarif d'apr^s lequel vouB etes oblifr^s de dresser vos Comptes pour en etre payes, pourriez-vous pro- duive cetarifr^-^Le voici j'en file une Copie. ,>.... , . ., [Jartfpar le Conseil Exicutif, pour les Orders de la Paix.'] Deposition, 5s. Warrant et Recognizance, 5s. Examination of Prisoner, 2s. 6d. Drawing an Indictment, 6s. Sd. Proceedings before Petit Jury, ISs. 4d. Original Subpoena, 3s. Copy, , . v. . 18. Bench Warrant, 5s. Precept to the Sheriff. lis. 8d. En vertv de ce tarif le proems d'un accuse dan? vos Sessions coute t-il ^ h Pro- vince beaucoup moins ch^re qu'a la Cour Criminelle du Banc Roi ?-^Jo re- ponds que les depenses encourues par le Gouvernement pour procedures d'vucune accusation Criminelle, jusqu'ii la conviction ou decharge du prisonnior, > com- pris les tiepopitions, warrants, examens du pri^onnier, bill 4'indictment, subpci^nas. I'instruction aux petits jui-es, le jugeffient et la cppie pour le geplier, se montent generalement a trente-sept schelins et demi courAnt, qans les sessions trinie»triel- les ; pendant qu'au meillcMr de ma connaissance 91 gn bill rappprte vrgi par le grand jury est porte devant le petit jury, et qu'il y ajt proces d$ns 1ft Cour Criminelle du Banc du Roi, le Procureur du Roi seul ne ref oit pas ixioins de ?ept loujs cinq schelins courant pour ses honoraires, exclusivement des mandats emanes durant I .'I f r I :\ 36 issued during the proceedings, namely, subpoenas, bench warrants, and personal arrests, and of their service, and other necessary matters. Did you ever draw any of those sunas? — We receive our contingencies, by means of the accounts I have mentioned before. Last year the account amounted to 1177 13s. 4d. By what precedes, it appears you have never been in the want of means for carrying on the prosecutions which are cognizable at the Quarter Sessions? — Cer- tainly not. Our contingencies are always paid to us ; but I do not think that we are sufficiently remunerated for our trouble : this, however, dees not arise from the want of funds, but from the control exercised by the Executive Council over our accounts. Ycu have before spoken of prosecutions that are to be carried on at the expense of the public ; are there any that are carried oi>at the expense of individuals? — Yes, all the cases of assault and battery alone. Have you ever received any instructions to serve for your guide as to the selec- tion of offences which ought to be tried at the Quarter Sessions? — Yes, in 1822, we received, in the month of July, instructions from the Governor in Chief; and also on the l6th August 1830 from Sir James Kempt. What was the purport of these instructions ? — In order to make known the pur- port of them, I produce a certified copy. (Q. q.) Did the last instructions you received contradict in any way the others ? — On the contrary, they confirm them, and enjoin us strictly to conform to them, and to prove this I produce another certified copy. (R. u.) i i.;<; i.uniaij -.n i; Were there, to your knowledge, any other instructions, in the interval between ]S22and / 830?— No. Do you faithfully follow the instructions of 1822 and 1830? — As much as it has been in our power to do so. When the Magistrates for the District of Quebec, admit persons who are charged witli offences, prosecutable at the Quarter Sessions to bail, do they bind them by their recognizancesj'to appear before the said Court of Sessions or before the ('curt of King's Bench? — In such cases they hold them to bail to appear before tl.e Court of Quarter Sessions. ,»v. if- Saturday, 26/A February, 1831 . Jacques Ladrie, Esquire, in the Chair. WilUam Green, Esquire. Are you one of the Clerks of the Peace for the District of Quebec? — Yes, since the year 1812. From what funds are the expenses incurred by the prosecutions before the Quarter Sessions, defrayed ? — To this question I make the same reply as Mr. Pcrrault ; and moreover, that during a certain period the money was taken from certain' funds called " PoHce funds/' but the Magistrates being of opinion that those f\jnds ought not to be made use of but for improvements in the city, and not for prosecutions, we ceased to be paid out of those fund:-.. We therefore ad- dressed ourselves to the Executive, who did not hesitate to cause us to be paid, according to the tariff, during a certain period, afler which they gave us a tariff on a reduced scale, in conformity with wnich we have continued to be paid, every six months, till this day. '•"■■••'-•■••■■• ^-T....^ - . ,.- r - ,■-.-.....,.. -.„ ,,.. ..ir... - Were m le proems c'est-il dire des subpoenas, bench vsarranti et contrainlespar corps, de Icnr signification et autres choses n^cessaires. A vez-vous jamais retire aiicunc de ces sommes .' — Nous touchons nos contin- gens, au moyen de compte ; comme je I'ai dit ci-dessus, I'ann^e derni^re cc compf se monca ;\ ^6177 13s. 4d. De ce qui pr^cSde il parait que vous n'avez done jamais manqu^ de moyens |)0ur faire les poursuites, qui sent du ressort des sessions trimestrielles ?— Assu- rt^ment non ; nos contingens nous ont toujours <''t6 pay^s, mais je ne crois pas que nous soyions suffisamment r^mun^r^s de nos peines ; mais cela ne vient pas du manque de funds, mais bien du contr6le exerce par le conseil sur nos comptes. Vous avez parle ci-dessus de poursuites qui doivent se faire aux d^pens du pub- lic ; en est-il qui se font aux frais des particuliers ? — Oui, tous les cas d'assauts et batteries seulement. Avez-vous jamais re9U aucune instruction pour vous guider dans le choix des offenses qui doivent ftre jug^es devant les sessions trimestrielles? — Oui ; en 1822 dans le inois de juillet, nous en avons re9U de la part du Gouverneur-en-Chef, et aussi le IG aotjt 18S0 de la part de Sir James Kempt. Quelle etait la tcneur des premieres instructions? — Pour en faire connaitre la teneur i'en produis une copie certifi^e. (Voir I'Appendice Q. q.) Les dernieres instructions que vous avez re9us contredisent-elles sur aucun point les premieres ? — Au contraire elles les confirment et nous enjoignent strictement de nous y conformer, et pourle prouver j'en produis aussi une copie certifi6e. (Voir I'Appendice R. r.) Y a-t-il eu a votre connaissance dans I'intervalle de 1822 <\ 1830 d'autres ins- tructions ? — Non. Observez-vous fiddement les instructions de 1822 etde 1830? — A.utant qu'il aet6 en notre pouvoir dele faire. Lorsque les Magistrats du district de Quebec admettent ^ caution les personnes prevenues d'offense qui doivent ^tre poursuivies aux Sessions de Quartier les obligent-ils dans leur reconnaissance ^ comparaitre devant la Cour des dites Ses- sions ou devant la Courdu Banc du Roi? — Dansce casils les obligent toujours u comparaitre devant la Cour des Sessions de Quartier, > ,.-. Samediy^Q Fevrier \mi. Jacques Labrie, Ecuyer, au Fauteuil. , William Green, Ecuyer. Etes-vous un des Greffiers de la Paix du district de Quebec ? — ^Oui, depuis I'ann^e 1812. Quels fonds servent a d^h&yer les frais encourus dans les poursuites devant les Sessians de Quartier ? — A cette demande, je fais la meme r^ponseque M. Perrault, et en outre que pendant un certain tems on prenait ces deniers sur certains fonds appeles " Police funds " mais les Magistrats <;tant d'avis que ces fonds ne devaient^tre employes que pour Tamelioration de lavilleet non pour les poursuites, ont ress6 de nous faire payer a mfime ces fonds lA. C'est pour- quoi nous nous adressames i\ I'Executif, qui n'hesita pas a nous faire payer sui- vant notre tarif pendant un certain tems, apr^s lequel il nous a donne un tarif reduit, conformement auquel nous avons continue d'etre payes par semestro jusqu';\ ce jour. ->T^^».'^.?i-v r"v-^77^ !l^ 38 Were any offences of such a nature us to be prosecuted at the Quarter Sessions that were not so prosecuted, from the want oifuDdsfor the purposQ?-No, never. Who rereived tlie money that was voted by the Legishture for that purpose ? — The Chairman of the Quarter Sessions. Until the last year thoy M'ore autho- rized thereto by law; but in the last Session, the House determioed by its reso- lutions, that the money should be paid into the hands of the Clerks ot each dis- trict to be made use of for that purpose, but under the direction of the Ma- gistrates. Nevertheless those monies have never been paid into our bands. Look at the Tariff marked [O. o.] and say if it is correct P—Yes ; it is cor- rect ; and the expenses incurred for the prosecution of an accused person be- fore the Court of Quarter Sessions may amount to from SOs. to 40s. Look at the papers marked (Q. Q.) & (R. a.) & say whether those are the in* structions by which you are guided in the selection of prosecutions to be brought before theCourt of Quarter. Sessions ? — Yes, & we have always conformed to them. When the Magistrates of Quebec admit pwsons to bail who are charg;ed with offences of a nature to be prosecuted at the Quarter Sessions, do they hind them over to appear at the said Sessions, or at the Court of King's Bench ?— -Always before the Court of said Sessions. Do you know whether the instructions of 1822, marked (Q. a.) was address- ed to all the Magistrates of each District ?— I believe so. . f- Jacques Viger, Eiqmrc. , ' - Have you any knowledge that before the year 1823, & under date 29th July a Circular or Letter of Instruction similar to that marked ^Q. q.) wliich the committee exhibit to you, was addressed to the Magistrates of the different Districts r—Yes ; and I can: even furnish the French edition of it, (see French copy,) having received it last year from the bands of a public functionary, who. M hen he gav« it to me, told roe that that circular had at that time been ad- dressed to the Magistrates, in the French and English languages. , ^*■. 1 \ Tuesday, 1st March, 1831. LiDORE Bedard, Efquire, in the Chair. Pierre Louis Dellegalle. Bailiff. Where do yourefidef— I haverefidedat Sorfl for fix years. Were you prefent at the Election that tooic place at Sorel, in July 1827 ? — Yea } I was pr«- Tent all the time as Conftable of the Poll. Who were the Candidate! at that Election 7 — Mr, James Stuart, Attorney General ot thit Pro- vince, and Dr. Wolfred Nelson, Wai that Election keenly contefted ? — Tes, very keenly. Did you hear the Attorney General threaten fuch at came to vote for Mr. Nelion ? — Yes ; he said to mod of those who came to vote for Mr. Nelion : « If you take the oath, I will have you fent to Montreal ; you fhall be pot in prifon ; I wilt profecute you for perjury •, and I will make an example of you in the pillory." Did he utter thofe threats to a ntan named Antoine Anfliuit, and to one named Hm dit Cour- noyer?— i^esi he used ihote threats to them, and he told them they could not vote txcause they had made donations of their property. Did a man named St. Gcmain, who had alfo made a donation of his proprrty, offer himfelf to vote for Mr. Stuart ?— That St. Germain came forward to vote, and he faid he had made a donation 30 Y a-t-il en quelqtie oflfense de nature a 6tre poursuivie aux Sessions de Quar- tier, qui ne I'ait pas 6t6 en cons^uence du manque^ de fonds pour cet objet ? — Non, jamais. Qui a retire Ics argens votes par la Legislature pour cet objet ?— >Ce sont les Pr^sidensdes Sessions de Quartier. Jusqu'a I'ann^e derni^re ils y <>taient autori- scs parlai) et dites si ce sont \k les instructions en vertu des queltes vous vous guidez dans le choix des poursuites h etre port^es devant la Cour des SeMiom de Quartier ? — Oui, et nous nous y sommes tbiTiours conform^s. Lorsque les Magistrats de Quebec admettent k caution, des personnes pr<:vc- Dues d'offenses de nature k £tre poursuivies aux Sessions de Quartier, les oblig<.'nt« ils il comparaitre dev«i)t les dites Sessions ou devant la Cour du Banc du Roi ? — Toujours devant la Cour des dites Sessions. Est il k votre connaissance que les instructions de 1832, marquees (Q. q.) aient 6t6 addresses a tous les Magistrats de chaque district ? Je le crois. Jacques Figer, ^cuyer. Avez-vous eu connaissance que durant I'ann^e 1822 sous date de 29 de Juii- let, il fut addrene au Magistrats des difF^i'ens districts une Circulaire ou let- tre d'instruction semblable k ceMe marque (Q. q.) que le Comit6 vous soumets ? —Oui, et j'en puis m^mie foumir I'^dition Fran9ai8e I'ayant re?u I'an dernier des main m£mes d'un officier public, qui me dit, en rae la donnant, que cette circulaire avait (A€ adress^e alors aux Magistrats dans les langues Fran9aisc ct Angiaise. Mardi, ler Mars 1831. IsiooR£ Bbdard, Ecuyer, au FauteuiU Pierre Louis DtlkgilU, Huiflier: — Ou refidez-vous ?— Je reside k Sorel depuis fix ans. Etitiz-vous present & {'election qui eut lieu a Sorel en juillet 18Oui, j'y fus prefent tous le temps en qualite d'Huiuier du poll. Quels 6taient le« candidats a cette election ?— M. J. Stuart le Procureur GfinSrel de cette Province et M. Wolfred Nelson, Aiedecin. Cette flection fut-elle vivement conteft^e ?— Oui, tr^es vivement. Avez-vous cutendo le Procureur General ftire des menaces a ceux qui venaient voter pour M. Nelfon ?— Oui, 11 disait a la plupart de ceux qui venaient voter pour M. Nelfon, fi vous pre- nez le iitcment, je voiis ferai conduire a Montreal, vous ferez mis en ptifon, je vous pourfuivrez pourparjure et je ferai 4in exemple de vous fur le:pilori. Fit-il ces menaces Ik a un nomme Antoine Auflant, et a un noinm6 Hus dit Cournoyer ?— Oui, il leur fit ces menaces et il difait qu'il ne pouvaient voter parce qu'ils avaient fait donation Ue leurs biens. Un nomme Saint-Germain qui avait aussi fait donation de ses biens, fe pr6,senta-t-Il pour voter pour M. Stuart ?—€« r.onimi Saint-Germain se |)refenta pour voter, et il dit qu'il avait fait do- nation ■-•••VT- 4a donation of his property, whereupon Mr. Nelfoii told him that he had no right to vote, and that he ought to get advice before he took the oath. What did the Attorney General then fay and do ?— He said to him ; " Vote, vote, my friend, your vote is good ; fear nothing ( I tell you, in my quality as Attorney General, that you have a right to vote. I am the Attorney General. It is only I who can profecute you ; do not fear any thing.'' Upon this, he took St. Gejrmain's hand and placed it upon the Evangelifts. St. Germain then took the Proprietor's oath; with reluctance, and voted for Mr- Stuart. Did the Attorney General often repeat, that he waM the Attorney General, and that it was he alone who could profecute for perjury i — Yes ; he said so to almoU all the perfons who came to vote for him, and v»ho had any doubts as to their right of voting. Do you know whether Antoine Aussant, and Hus dlt Cournoyer, whom you fpoke ot before, were prosecuted for perjury, as the Attorney General had told them they should be ' — Yes ; they were ; and it was I who took Hus dit Cournoyer into cuftody, as well as Buckner, and the widow .St. Michel, who had alio voted againd Mr. Attorney General. Did the Attorney General make you sign any affidavit i — The day after the close of the Poll, Dr. Von Iffland came to ttll me that the Attorney General wanted me, and defired me to go to him at George Wilmot's, the Tavern Keeper, where the .Attorney General lodged. When I got there, the Attorney General oifered me an allidavit ready drawn, which went to certify that a man named Jofvph Claprood, who had voted againfl the Attorney General was not qualilied ; I obferved to the Attorney General that I could not fign that affidavit, as I was not certain of the truth of the facts which it contained- Whereupon he said to me, '• Will you fign it, yes or no ?" wanting to make some remonftrances to him, he faid to me, •< If you di not fign this paper in- ftantly you shall liave caul'e to remember me-" I then ligned it i but I have ever lince that time remembered him ;I remember him even still this day, as my family does too, and I shall remem> bcrhima long while. •..'"■i."; • ^^ i' ■ ' Who swore you when you had signed that affidavit ?— Dr. Von Iffland. Do you know whether lome Electors who had voted againd the Attorney General were ara reded immediately after having voted, and by whofe order ? — The Attorney General told me. Oil the fourth day of Election to goto Dr. Von Iffland, a Magistrate, residing at Sorel, and tell him, from him, to make out blank warrants upon charges of perjury ; and he bid me make haste, and tell him to do so too. I then went to the Doctor's, and on my return, I told theAt> torney General, I had not found him ( upon which he said to me that I had not sought him. Af- tei wards I found him, and I told him to make out blank warrants immediately, as the Attorney General wanted them- The Doctor then went with me to the Attorney General. I do not know what passed between them. On the same day the Attorney General said to him at the Poll in French, '< Make hade," and after that time 1 did not see the Doctor at the Poll. Do you know whether there were any Eleftors who were immediately arrefted after having voted for Mr. Nelfon ? —Yes ; directly : there were Buckner, Auffant, Claprood, Hus dit Cour- noyer, and the Widow St. Michel. It was I who alfo arrelled Buckner, Hus dit Cournoyer, and the Widow St. Michel, during the period of the Election, in virtue of a warrant from Mr. Von Iffland. I heard the Attorney General give orders to Dr- Von Iffland, to cause those per- sons to be arreted. £?veral persons who had voted for Mr. Nelson, were arrefted during the time of the Poll. Do you know whether any perfon who had voted for the Attorney General was profecuted ?— No, not to my knowledge ; and as I reside at Sorel, I mud certainly have known of it, had it been the case. You have said that you would remember the Attorney General for a long while ; did he do any harm to you ?— .Since the Sorei Klei^ien I have loll almoft all my cuftom as a Bailiff, and I can only attribute it to the influence of the Attorney General. At Montreal, I went to take to him an accouut of what was due to me, as Bailiff for arreting Hus dit Cournoyer, the Widow St. Michel and Buckner. The Attorney General told me he would not pay me, becaufe I had not supported him at his Eleflion at Sorel, and that I might go and get Mr. Nelson to pay me- This was at the Mansion House, and he repeated to me that I fhould have reason to remember him ; and then he put me out of doors. I have feveral other claims upon Government ; amongft iithers, one for having conveyed from Sorel, Abraham Paradis, Jos. Charbonneau, Catherine Gagnon, and Jofeph Bellerose, whom I had arretted upon warrants that had been sent to me. 1 had laid out money. My accounts amounted to thirty pounds } and I have loft the whole, bc- caofe the Attorney General would never sign them. At 41 It was came nation de les bieni, fur quoi M. NeTon lut dit qu'il n'avait pa> le droit dc voter et qu'il devraic Te contulter avant que de prendre le terment. Que dit et que fit alors le Procureur General ? — II lui dit, " votez, votez mon ami, votre vote est bon," ne criignez-rien, je vous dis en ma qualitc de I'rocureur du Roi que vous avez droit de voter. Je fui.t le Procureur du Roi ; il n'y a que mot qui puiflfe vous pourfuivre, ne craignez rien } et la defTus, il prit U main de Saint-Gcrmain et la lui mit sur I'Evangile. Saint-Germain prit alors avec repugnance le serment comme propri^taire, et vota pour M. Stuart. M. le Procureur du Roi a t-il souvent rgpeie qu'il etait le Procureur du Roi, et qu'il n'j avait que lui qui pouvait poursuivre pour paijurc i — Oui, il I'a dit a prcfque toutes les persannes qui venaient voter pour lui et qui avaient quelqueg doutesfur leur droit de voter. Savez-vous fi le nommi Antoine Auflant et Hus dit Cournoyer dont vous avez parl6 plus haut, ont 6t6pourfuivi pour parjure comme leur avait dit le Procureur General ? — Oui, ils i'ont /te, etc'e-t moi-meme qui ai prisHus djt Cournoyer, ainsi que Ouclcner et la Veuve Saint-Michel, qui avaient aussi vot6 contre M. le Procureur General. Le Procureur General vous a-t-il fait signer quelque affidavit ? — Le lendemain apres la clo- ture du Poll, le Docteur Von-Iffland vint me dire que le Procureur du Roi me demandait, et d'al- ler le trouver chvz George Wilmot, aubergiste, chez lequel le Procureur General se retirait. Lorsquejefus arrivf M. le Procureur General me pr^senta un affidavit tout drefle, qui allait u c;ttifierqu'un nomm6 Joseph Claprood qui avait vot6 contre le Procureur General, n'dtait pas qualific ; j'observai au Procureur General que je ne pouvait signer cet affidavit, parce que je n'e- tait pas certain de la verity des fails qu'il contenait. II me dit la-deflTus, voulez-vous flgner, oui, ou non i surquelques repr^fentations que je voulu lui faire, il me dit, si vous ne flgnez pas ce papier a I'inftant, vous vous resouviendrez de moi. Alors je I'ai Cignf, roais je me fuis toujours refTou- venu de lui depuis ce temps, je m'en souviens encore aiijourd'hui ainsi que ma famille, et je m'en souviendrai longtemps. Qui vous a alTermente lorsque vousavezsigne cet affidavit ? — Le Docteur Von-Iffland. Avez-vous eu connaifTance que des ^lecteurs qui avaient vot£ contre le Procureur General aient cl6 arretes imm^diatement apres avoir vrti, et par I'otdre de qui ?— Le Procureur Gene- ral m'a dit, le quatritme jour de I'clection, d'aller trouve." le Docteur Von-Iffland, magiflrar, refidani a Sorel. et de lui dire de sa part de preparer des Warrants en blanc pour accufation de parjure, et de me dep^cher et lui aussi : Alors je stiis alle chez le Docteur, et itant de retour. j'ai dit au Procureur General que je nei'avais pas trouve, sur quoi il m'a dit que je ne I'avais pas cherche'. Je le trouvai enfuite, et je lui dit de preparer immi5diatement des warrants en blanc, car le Procureur General en avait befoin : Alors le Docteur e(l venu avec moi trouver le Procu- reur General ; j'ignore ce qui s'est pafTe entre eux. Le memo jour le Procureur General lui a dit au Poll, en francaii " faites diligence," et depuis on n'a plus revu le Docteur «u Poll. Avez-vous connaifTance que des £!ecteurs aient etfi immddiatement arretes apres avoir vote en faveur de M. Nelfon ? — Oui, tout de fuite, Buckner, AulTant, Claprood, Hus dit Cour- noyer, la Veuve Saint-Michel ; c'est moi qui ai arrcte Buckner, Hus dit Cournoyer et la Veuve Saint-Michel, pendant la dur^e de I'election, d'apres un Warrant de M. Von-Iffland. J'ai en- tendu le Procureur General donner ordre au Docteur Von-Iffland de faire atreter ces perfonney la. Plufleurs perfonnes qui avaient vote pour M. Nelfon, furent arret€es pendant la duree du Poll. Avez-vous eu connaifTance qu'aucune personne qui avait vot€ pour le Procureur General, ait et6 pourfuivie ? — Non, pas k ma connaifTance } et refidanc a Sorel, j'en aurais certainement eu connaifTance si c'eut ete le cas. Vous-avez dit que vous vous souviendriez longtemps du Procureur General, vous a-t-il caufe quelque tort ? — Depuis I'clection de Sorel j'ai perdu prefque toute ma pratique comme huiffier, et je ne puis attribuer cela qu'a I'influence du Procureur G£ndral ; ii Montr^l j'allait lui porter le compte de ce qui m'etait du comme huissier, pour avoir arrSte Hus dit Cournoyer, la Veuve Saint-Michel et Buckner } le Procureur General me dit qu'il ne me payerait pas parce que je ne I'avais pas supporte a son Election de Sorel, et d'aller me faire payer par M. Nelfon; Cela se passa dans la Mansion House, ouil me repeta encore que je me refTouviendrais de lui, et enfuite il me mit a la porte ; j'avais plusieurs autres reclamations contre le gouvernement, entr'autres pour avoir conduit de Sorel Abraham Paradis, Jos. Charbonneau, Catherine Gagnon, Joseph Bellerofe, que j'avais arrete pour executer des Warrants qui m'avaient etc remis. J'ai dCbourf^ de I'argent } mes comptes fe montaient a trente louis, et j'ai tout perdu, parce que le Procureur General n'a jamais voulu figaer mes comptes. Sur rp ^!^ 4« Ml !i 11 : (At the jequifition of the Committeei the witness delivered in the following Warrant.) 6th Auguft, 1S97. Warrint to apprehend Antoine Paul Hut dit Cournoyer. Diftrict of Montreal. } ■'•■} '<■■: '..J V Anthony Von Iffland, Esquire, one of His Majcfty's Jufticei for the Diftrict aforesaid .J, 'V! :,. n -:•.^ -.- ■..,.-- ,, ,. ' , ..x';, And to all and singular th«s Peace Officers in and for the Diftrict, jointly and feverally, Greeting : — Whereai Antoine Paul Hus dit Cournorrr, of the Borough of William Henry, ftands charged before me on oaih with perjury, in hating on the thirtieth day of July inftant, at the Borough of William Henry aforefaid, at the ele{\ion then and there held for elefling a Member to serve in the Aflembly of this Province, made a falfe oath, and sworn falfely before Henry Crebafl'a, Esquire, Returning OHicer Lr the said Borough, touching and refpei^ling his quali^cation on which he the said Antoine Paul Hus dit Couruoyer, then and there claimed the right of voting tor a Member to serve in the said Afiembly for the Paid Korough. Thefe are therefore in His Majefty'i name to require and command you forthwith to apprehend the body of the said An- toine Paul Hus dit Cournoycr, and him bring before me, to be dealt with according to law. fail not, at your Peril. Given under my hand and seal at the Borough of William Henry aforefaid, this sixth day of August, in the year of our Lord, ) 887, and in the eighth year of His Majesty's Reign. : , ,.. , , ., , , ,; , (Signed,) A. VON IFFLAND, J. P. (L. S.) ': '. i r- I ■ I.,, <.[. , ; ,.,■,. H Mr. Lou's MarcouXi ofYamaska; .■,-,,., / ' Where do you live ?— At St. Michel d'Tamaska. Were you prefent at the Election that took place at Sorel in July, 1827 ?— Tes { I was prefent all the time \ 1 went there every day; lorasthen a shopkeeper at that place. Who were the Candidates at that Election ?— Mr. James Stuart, the Attorney General of this Province, and Dr. Wolfred Nelfon, of St. Denis. Was that Election keenly contested ? — Tes } and I believe that it lasted seven days. Have you any knowledge that the Attorney General threatened those who came to vote for M. Nelfon ? — Yei } he made ufe of violent threats towards almost all who came to vote against him. He told them that if they voted without having the right to do so, he would have them taken to Montreal, where he would have them prosecuted for perjury ; that they should be put in the piloiy, and that Doctor Nelfon would not put himfelf in their place ; that he was the Attorney General, and that he alone had the right of prosecuting. He used such threats to me, myself Did he make ufe of fuch threats to a man named Hus dit Cournoyer, and to one named An> toine AolTant ?— Yes. Are you quite certain that the Attorney General faid that, in his quality of Attorney General, he was the only one who had the right of prosecuting for perjury f — Yes, I am very certain that he uid to feveral voters, whofe qualifications were doubtful, << fear nothing, I am the Attorney General, and I am the oti.y one who can prosecute you for perjury." Were you prefent when a man named St. Germain presented himfelf to vote ?— Yes. Did any one object to his right to vote ?— .Yes ; Mr. Nelfon told him that as he had made a donatran of his property, he had no right to vote. Dit St. Germain admit the fact ?— Yes ; he repeated feveral times, I have given my property to my fon. What did the Attorney General then say and do .'—The Attorney General said to him, *« Vote my friend, your vote is a good one, I tell you in my quality of Attorney General that you have a ri^t to vote. You have nothing to fear; it is only I who can prosecute you." Notwithftanding thu, St. Germaia appeared as if he was reluctant to give his vote* and the Attorney General then (Sur la r .senter le dit bourg dans la dite aflembl^e ; Ce:j prelentes font done pour vous requ£rir et vou« commander au nom de Sa Majedi, d'arrSter la personne du dit Antoine Paul Hui dit Cour- noyer, et I'amener devant moi afin qu'elle soit trait Je suivant la loi ( et n'y manquez pai lous lea peine de droit, Donne foui men seinjT et sceau, au Bourg de William Henry susditi le sixieme jour d'ao&t, dans I'annee de Notre Seigneur 1827, et dans la huitieme annee du regno de Sa Majeftc, (Signe,) A VON-IFFLAND, J. P, (L. S.) M, Louu Marcoujt, de Yamaska .— Ou refidez-vous ?— A St. Michel d'Yamaska. ' ' '" ' ' ^ r ' £tiez-vou8 present a I'^lection qui eut lieu a Sorel en juillet 1827 ?— OuiJ'y fui prifent tout le temps, j'y afliftai tous les jours, j'etait alors marc hand dans I'endroit. Quels ^talent les candidats a cet Election .' — M. James Stuart, le Procureur G£n£ral de cette Province, et le Dofteur Wolfred Nellbn de St. Denis. Cette Election fut-elle vivement conteft6e ?— Oui, et je crois qu'elle dura 5<;pt jours. Avez-vous eu connaiflfance que le Procureur General ait fait des menaces a ceux qui venaient voter pour M. Nelson ?— Oui, il faifait des fortes menaces ii prefquetous ceux qui venaient voter contre lui, its leur disait que s'ils votaient sans en avoir le droit, il les ferait conduire a Montreal, qu'ils feraient poursuivis pour parjure, qu'ils feraicnt mis au pilori, et que M. Nelson n'irait pa» se mettre a leur place, qu'il £tait procureur du roi, et qu'il etait le seul qui avait le droit de poursuivre. II m'a fait de femblables menaces A moi-merae. A-t^il fait ces menaces a un nomme Hus dit Cournoyer et i un nomm£ Antoine Aufiant ?— Oui Etes-vous bien certain que le Procureur General ait dit qu'en fa qualite de Procureur Gcn6rat il .io had voted for the Attorney General, without having i-ny more right to do so, than Hus d it Cournoyer and Aussant, But the Attorney General did not prosecute any of those perfons. Who were the Mapdrates who signed the Warrants for the apprehension of thofe perfons ?— It was Mr. Bondy, a Magiftrate for fierthier ; and I was prefent when he signed the Wart...t for the arreft of St, Germain, and of eight other perfonx. 1 mylelf carried the affidavits to Montreal. I delivered them nr.yfelf to Mr. John Delisle, Clerk of th.i Crown ; ant' none of thofe persons were profecu'.ed, except one named Jer.n Cameraire, ot Sorel, againft whom the Grand Jury did nut find any Bill. It was known that this Cameraire, had not taken the oath before voting. Do you know that feveral perfons who voted for Mr. Neifon were forthwith arretted, almost as foon as they had voted .?— Yes, immediately aftei wards. In I8'28, I gave Mr. Neifon an affi- davit which contains the particulars refpecting this fubject. I gi"e it in now, as part of my evidence, in answer to the laft queftion that has been made to me. (Which affidavit is as follows :— ) Louis Marcoux, of the Borough of William Henr,, Dealer, after having betn duly fworn be- fore the undersigned Majirtrate, deposcth and faith : That in July, -n th.' year one thoufand eight hundred and twenty-feven, he was prefent at the Election which took place at the faid Bo- rough for the purpofeof electing a Member to lerve in the enfuing Provincial Parliament for the laid Borough ; that James Stuart, Efquire, Attorney General, and Wolfred Neifon, Efq , were the Candidates; that he, the faid Jan- s Stuart, made ufe of every puHlbie means, both by promis- es and threats to enfure his own Election, behaving in the grolTest manner towards certain persons who voted for thefu J Woifreii NeHon ; telling them that he, the faid Je'ries Stuart, as Attorney General would have them put in the pillor*, and that the faid Wolfred Neifon would not put his neck in the place of theirs, with many other expreffiom of the fam.: tenor ; that he the said James Stuart employed two individuals of low character, both as related to their knowledge, and to the repute in which they were held, to value the properties of feveral Electors who had juft voted for the 'aid Wolfred Neifon, and th-.*- as soon is they made a report that such oro- perties were not worth five pounds flcrliiig, he, the faid 'ames Stuart, caufed rhem to be imme- diately arreft'ia, within sight of many other perfons prefent at the faid iilection, and that upon a warrant issued by Anthony Von IfHand, Efquire, one of His Majefty's Juflices, who kept con- flantlyat the faid Election, together with the other lvlagi...„tc-i who wtie very zealous in pro- moting the Election of the faid James Stuart, and whose conduct could not fail to hav" a great influence upon the Electors, fo much so as to encourage feveral perfons to vote for f:he faid James Stuart, and to intimidate and prevent many others from exercising their rightsas citizens ; that he, the laid James Stuart, even affured thofe who cam? to vote for him, thai they had no- thing to f(>3r. lie, the faid James Stuart, in his quality of Attorney General, having the fole right of prcfc.uting such as againft whom complaints might bu made ; or certainly assurances as f^rong ai thofe ; that he, the faid James Stuart, went even fo far, as to take the hand of a man ramcd Jean Baptif^e Matte, and placed it upon the Holy Evangelifls, although he, the said J. b. Matte, appeared very loath to fwear to the validity c'his vote ; and that, in truth, he had no wis the right to vote, as the faid deponent verily believes ; and the faid J. Bte. Matte, at the inlligation of the faid James Stuart, corvfenied to take the oath in order to be able to vo'.e for him ; that moreover the faid James hjtuart, objected to almost all of those who voted for the faid r" 41, 45 et h lui mit fur I'evangile en lui difant '• votez, votez mon ami, vous n'avez rien a craindre;" alorj St. Germain preii le ferment comnie proprietaire et vota pour M. James Stuart. Etes-vous certain que M. le procureur general ait dit en cette circonftance :> St. Germain, vous n'avez rien a craindre, je fuis le procureur du roi, et il n'y a que moi qui puifle vous pour- fuivre? — Oui, j'en fuis tres certain, j'etait fur une fenetre a une tres petite diftance du procureur du roi, et je fuis certain que le procureur du roi fit alors ufage de ces expr^Sions en parlant a St. Germain. Avez-vous eu connaiflance que Hus dit Cournoyer et Antoine Auflant aient 6t6 pourfuivis pour parjure par le procureur du roi, pour le ferment qu'ils avaient pris a I'^lection de Sorel ?— Oui, et tous \es eictieurj de Sorel en ont eu connaiflance, ils ont ete traines de terme en terme pen- dant deux ans, ainfi que plufieurs autres qui ont 6le pourfuivis par le procureur du roi pour la meme chofe. St. Germain a-t-il et6 pourfuivie pour parjure ?— Noii, Si Germain fut arrete ainfi que plu- fieurs perlonnes qui avaient vote pour le procureur du roi fans avoir plus de droit do le faire que Hus dit Cournoyer et Auflant, mais le procureur du roi n'a pourluivi aucune de ces perfonnes. Quel eft Ic magiftrat qu'a figne les warrants pour I'apprehenfion deces perfonnes ? — C'eft M. Pondy, magiftrat de Berthier, et j'etais prefent lorsqu'il a figni les wrarrant-i pour I'arreftation de Saint-Germain et de htit autre* perfonnps ; j'ai pcrt6 moi-meme ces depofitions h Montreal. Je les ai mo=-meme remis ii M. John Delifle, greflicr de la couronne, et aucunes de ces perfonnes n'a ^te pourfuivi, excepti un nommi Jean Cameraire, de Sorel, contre lequel le grand jury n'a pas trouvc bill ; on favait que ce Cameraire n'avait pas pret£ le ferment avant que de voter. S?vez-vous fl plufleurs perfonnes qui voterent pour M. Nelson furent arret^es sur le champ presqu'auflitot apres qu'ils eurent vot6 ? — Oui, immediatement apres. En 1 8'J8 j'ai donn6 a M. Nelson un affidavit qui contient les details a ce lujet ; je le donne maintenant comme partie de mon temoignage en rC'ponse a la dernlere question qui vient de m'etre faite, (Lequel affidavit eP- comme fuit ; " Louis Marcoux, commercjant du bourg de William Kenry, apres avoir et6 duement afler- meme devant le magiftrat fouffign^, depose et dit, qu'en juillet de I'annee mil huit cent vingc f.ept, il avait ete present a I'eltction, qui eut lieu ■ J dit bourg a I'effet d'elire un membre pour rcpr^aenter le fusdit bo>irg au prochain oarlement provincial ; que James Stuart, £cuyer, procu- reur du roi, et Wolfred Nelson, ecuyer, etaient les candidats ; que lui le dit James Stuart avaic Tait usage detous ha moyens poffibles, tant par proiiefle? que par menaces pour alfurer fa propre election, en traitant d'une manicre grotlicre certaines perfonnes, qui vutaient pour le dit Wol- fred Nelson, en '"ur difant, que lui, 'e flit James Stuart, comme procureur du roi, les ferait mettre au pilori, et que le dit Wolfred Nelfon n'irait point y mettre son cou a leur place, et en bien d'autres exprellicns de pareille figniflcation ; que .ji ledit James Stuart emp'oya deux indi- vidus trus obfcurs, tant par teur peu de connaissance, que par leur renommee, pour eftimer les proprietes de plufieurs elefteurs, qui venaient de vcierpour le dit Wolfred Nelfon } et qu'auflitdt qu'ils avaient fait rapport que les proprietes ne valaient point cinq livres fterling ; lui le dit James Stuart les faisaient immediatement arreter, a la vue de bien d'autres personnes pr^sentes a la dite election, et re sur un warrant emane de la p rt de Anthony V'*a liHand, ecuyer, un des magis- trats de Sa Majeft^, qui le lenait conftamment ' la dite ele£):ion avec deux autres magiftrats tres zeles a supporter I'^iection du dit James Stuart, et dont la conduite ne pouvait point manquer que d'influer extremement fur les eledteurs, au point que d'encouiager plufieurs a voter pour le dit James Stuart et d inii.-nider et d'empccher beaucoup '''iutres d'exercer leur droit de citoyen. Que m.eme lui le dit Jame? Stuart aflurait a ceux qui venaont voter pour lui, qu'ils n'avaient rien a craindre, ayant lui, le dit James Stuart, en qualite l'c procureur rlu roi, feul le droit de pour- suivre ceux contre qu- I'oii pourrait se plaindre ou certainement da aflurances auffi fortes; que hii le dr' V St. Ours, ] 2th November, 1828. LOUIS M.^RCOUX. Sworn before me, "f the 12th November, 1828. 3 F. St. Onge, J. P. - . J ■ ■ I . •- , , ,■' * ... Carmer leNoblet, or St. Ours. > Where do you reside ? — I reside at St. Jurs, where I practice as a Notary, since 1826. Were you present at the Eleciion which took place at the borough of Sorel, in July 1827 ? — I was pre>ent there for five or six days. Do you know that the Attorney General used threats to such at came to vote for Mr. Nel- fon, and encouraged thoiie who wished to vote for himself, and who were afraid to do it, because they believed themselves not to be qualified, by telling them to fear nothing, that he was the Attorney General, and that he alone could prosecute them for perjury ? — Yes ; the Attorney General used violent threats towards those who came to vote for Mr. Nelson, saying that he would have t'.icm put in the pillory ; he made ule of those threats to persons who, he said, had no right to vote, because they had made donations of their property *, and he told thofe who wished to vote for him to vote without fearing any thing, as he was the Attorney General, and that he alone could prosecute them for perjury. In 182H, I gave Mr. Nelfon an affidavit which contains some particulars relative to this matter. I ofier it as part of my evidence; Di.-trict of Montreal. } (Which affidavit is as follows : — } Catmer Le Noblet, Notary Pob'ic, residing at St. Ours, in the County of Richelieu, in the aforesaid diftrict, after being fworn upon the Ho'y Evangelists, deposeth and saith } That about the end of the month of July, in the year one thouf'and eight hundred and twenty-seven, at the borough of William Henry, in the country and district aforesaid, being present for several days at the Pol!, which was held there and then, for the purpose of electing a member to represent the burgesses of that borough in the ensuing Parliament of the Province of Lower-Canada, where James Stuart, Esqr , Attorney General, and Wo fied Nelson, Esquire, were the Candidates, he the said Deponent did see and hear the said James Stuart, Esquire, say to one of the Electors who voted for him, and to whom the said Wolfred Neifon, Esquire, haJ objected, «« Do not be afraid, nothing shall be done to you, I will be answerable for all.'' Deponent further declares that he saw and heard the said James Stuart, Esquire, several times, insult and abuse the Electors who came to vote for the said Wolfred NeUon, Esquire, that he the said James Stuart, Esquire, with passion and vehemence, declared to the Electors wiio voted against him, that he, the said James Stuart, Esquire, in his quality as Attorney General, would punish them, and would have them put in prison an J in the pillory ; and oneday addressing one of the Electors who came to give his vote lor the said Wolfred Nelson, Esquire, the said James Stuart, said to him, " I will have you taken up and sent to prison," and that, in cfiect, as soon as he had given his vote for the said Wolfred Nelson, Esquire, h i procured on the instant, a warrant from one of the Magistrates of Sore!, and caused the Elector to be taken up, who being surrounded and carried off by the" Getidtirmerif" of the •\ttorney General, deponent lost sight of him ; which, de- ponent firmly believes, induced novembre (18) I828. L'an mil huit cent vingt huit le dixhuiti^me jour de novembre^ devant moi Pierre Grife, e- cuycr, un des juges de paix de Sa Majefte pour le diftrit^ de Montreal, eH comparu Pierre Bour- geois, tavernier du village de St. Denis dans le comte de Richelieu dans le rufait diftrict, lequel apres serment pretc (ur les Saints Evangiles depose et dit que s'etant trouve vers la fin du mois de juiUet de I'annee mil huit cent vingt fept au bourg de William Henry dans te fufdit diftrift, pre- sent pendant plufieurs jours au prtle qui fe tenait li alors aux fins d'^lire un menribre pour repri- scnter les citoyens dii dit bourg au prorhain parlement de la province du Bas-Canada, ou James Stuart, ecuyer, procureur general, et Wolfred Nelfon, ecuyer, etaient candidats ; lui le dit de- pofjnt a vu et entendu a plusieurs fois le dit James Stuart un des candidats fusdits, ini'ulter et inaltraiter les ele£i:eurs qui venaient voter pour le dit Wolfred Nelfon, et que lui le dit James Stuart avec paflion et vehemence aflurait u ceux des clecteurs qui'votaient contre lui, que lui le dit James Stuart en fa qualite de procureur generaVles punirait, les feraitmettre au pilori,ou des mots u cet eiFet, et le dit dcpofant declare de plus que, quand le dit Wolfred Nelfon objectait a la voix de certains eiecteurs, que le dit Wolfred Nelibn ne croyait point qualifies a voter, lui le dit James Stuart leur assurait & peu pres en ces termes, qu'en votatit pour lui-mGme ils n'avaient rien a craindre, vu qu'il n'y avait que lui, le dit James Stuart, en fa qualite de Procureur Gent-ral, qui eut seul le droit "le poursuivre telles oiTenfes, ce qui avait engage, croit fermement le dit depofant, b vnter plusieurs des eiecteurs ain^ji objectds, quoiqu'ils eufient ete ouvertement avertis qu'ils n'en avaient nuUement le droit : Et le dit depofant declare en- suite que d'apres toutes les circonstance, dont il a eu perfonnellement connaifTance, ainsi que plu- sieurs autres presens au dit Poll, i' "oit fermement que la conduite mena9ante et les demarches du dit James Stuart, avaient I'efiet i.3n seulement d'intimider, mais encore de detourr?r plu- sieurs des eiecteurs qui parailTaient disposes u voter pour le dit Wolfred Nelson, et le dit depo- naat ne dit rien de plus, a declare que la presente deposition contenait la verite, et y persiste. Affirme devant moi le jour susdit, \ GRISE' PIERRE BOURGEOIS. J. P. Fendredi n Mars 1831. IstooHG Bbdard, ecuyer, au Fauteuil. CMne SSraphim Cherrier ecuyer, avocatj de Montf^al? Etes-vous Avocat partiqusnt i Monn-earf*— Goi. Avez vous connaifTance que dans le tcrme dfe laCour criminelle duBanc du Roi a Montreal- tenuc en Septembre 1827, des accusations pour parjure aient fteportiSes p.ir le Procureur Oeu^, al contre des individus qui avaient vote contre lui a I'election de Sorel qui eut lieu en Juillet 1827 pi— J'en ai connaiflince. Pouvez»vou5 dire quels ^icnt ces' indfvidus ? — Dans le terme de- Septembre 1 27 des bills d'Indictemens fijrent soumis par le Procureur General centre Antoine Auflanl ; Antoine Paul Hus dit Cournoyer } Nicolas Buckner et Joseph Claprood, et ce pour parjure allegae avoif cte commis a la dite election -de Sorel. Et ces bills ont ^e rejettcs par Ic grand jur£', Avez*vous connaifTance que de mjaveaux-Indictemens poorla mSitYr offVncC aient ct& foumis par ^!P^ 50 Bttti), in any fubsequent couiMi agalnft the Tame Individuals, and alfo againft fome others, who had TOted agsindhim, the said Attorney General ? — At the Sefllon of the Court of Oyer and Terminer, which :c«ifc place in November 1837, the said James Stuart, .Attorney General, did prefer fresh indictments for perjury, againftthe same individuals, and also againft feveral others who had voted againft him at the faid election, the names of whom as well as I can recollect are : Jean Baptifte Cantara, Louis Allard, Marguerite Neven and Felix Lavailce ; thefe tvro laft b<'.is were thrown out by the grand jury. As to Auifant, the fecond bill preferred againft him, was alfo thrown out by the grand jury, but a third indictment which was preferred againft him for the fame offence, was returned a true bill by the grand jury at the faid Court of Oyer and Ter- miner. Finally, in a fubsequent term, another bill of indictment for perjury was preferred againft a man named Francois Vandal, who had alfo voted againft the Attorney General at the said election. Were you not engaged as Attorney in the defence of several of thofe individuals ?— 'Yes ; to wit, two whofe trials did take place, r^an^ely Antoine AulTant and Nicolas Buckner ; as to Clap- rood I did not conduct his defence ■ When did the trials of Auffant and Buckner take place ? — In March 1830. Can you (late the reason why thofe trials did not take p'ace at an earlier period ? — ^The at- tempt which the Attorney General made to cause feveral of thefe trials for perjury to take place before fpecial juries, drawn from the lift prepared under the ordinance of 1785, chapter two, for civil cases ; and the objections made by the accused agamft the legality of fuch proceedings, occasioned discuflions which caused delays in those trials. What was the decifion of the Court on the objections raised by the accused on that fubject .'— Th6 Court decided ihat jurors drawn from the list prepared under the said ordinance, could not ferve in criminal cases, that lift being alone intended for civil cases ; and the objections raifed by the accufed were thus maintained. What were the reafons which induced the accused to object to those jurors .' — Those whose trials were sought to be brought before the special juries who had been nomi- nated and chofen in September 1 828, had the greateft intereft to get thofe juries set afide, in- asmuch as the greater part of them entertained and had warmly profefled political opi- nions, which were diametrically opposed to those which had induced the acculed to vote againft the Attorney General. It was a matter of public notoriety that those juries were under the influence of violent prejudices againft the accused ; who had moreover the more reaPon to fear the effects of that influence, as political excitement in the Province, was, at that_ period, carried to a great height. Do you think that if those trials had taken place before a ufual petty jury, those delays would have taken place ? — If these trials had been had before a common jury as all profecutions for perjury have always invariably been, thole discuflions would not have arifen, and the accused might have had their trials much sooner. They would have submitted to them with perfect con- fidence before a common jury. Do you know that in March 1830, the court set afide the special juries, before whom Buck- ner and Auflant were to have had their trials ?— The court did fet thofe juries afide. The ac- cused, amongft other objections, had maintained ns one that the nomination of ihespecial juries had been made by the clerk of the Crown, without either they or their Counsel being preient ; and the court itfelf, declaring that to be the case, in confequence fet afide the nomination that had been made by the clerk ot the Crown, and the body of jurors which refulted from that no- minatior. were equally fet afide. Nevertheless, the defendants who had, for a long time, been defirous of taking their trials, were willing that they should take place before that body of ju- rors, which was different from thofe that had been lelected in .September 1828. What was the defence made by Auflant ? — The defence wasfoundeu on the following facts. Some days before he voted at the faid election for Sore), a man named Francois Gazaille dit St. Germain, who, like the faid Auifant, had made a donation of his property, had voted for the Attorney General. When Wolfred Nellbn, the oppofing candidate to the Attorney General, objected to the vote of the faid St. Germain, on account of his having given away his property ; the Attorney General then said to the said St. Germain, that be could vote, and induced him to qualify as a proprietor by taking the oath required by the law ; and the faid Antoine Auffant, who till then had declined to vote, being informed ot the opinion given by the Attorney Gene- ral to the faid St. Germain, conceived that he had a tight to vote as well as the faid St- Germain, 'i'hefe are (he facts which were brought forward in defence of the said Auflant ; I muft remark that I had no perfonal knowledge of them, not having been prefent at that election ; but they were satisfactorily proved at the trial, and Auffant was acquitted. Do • *■ ^> 51 par leProcureur General dam aucune court subsequente contre let memei individus auffi contre quelquet autres qui avaient vot< contre lut a la dite Election ?— Dana la fellion de la Cour d'Oyer et Tc-miner qui eut lieu en Novembre 1 827 le dit James Stuart Procureur Genera] foumit de nouveaui dictemeng pour parjure contre les memes individusi et aufli contre quelques autres qui avaient v :ontre lui k la diie Election, etdont les noms font autant que je puis m'en rap- pejer, Jean Bte. Cantara, Louis Allard, Marguerite Neven et Felix Lavalle, ces deux derniers bills ont ete rejetis par les grand Jur£s. Quant a Aufl'ant le second bill pr^fent^ contre lui fut auili re> jet£ par lei grands jurest D)ais un trosieme Indiciement soumis pour la meme offenre fut rap* port£ comme vrai par les grands jurjs dans la dite feflion d'Oyer et Terminer. Enfin dans un terme fubfequent un autre bill d'Indictement pour parjure fut soumis contre un nomm6 Fran- ^■ois Vandalf qui avait cgalement vote contre le Procureur General a la dite (lection. Avez-vous €t6 emp]oy6 comnie avocat pour defendre plufieurs de ces individus ? — Qui s et nomm£ment deux dont les proces ont eu lieu savoir, Antoine Auflant et Nicolas Buckner ; quant a Claprood ce n'est pas moi qui I'eft defendu. Dans quel tems les proces d'Antuine Aussant et de Buckner ont-ils eut lieu ? — En Mars 1 830. Pourriez-vous dire quelle eft larailon pour laquelle ces proces n'ont pas eut lieu plutot ?— I bralTe et professe, avec chaleur des opinions politiques diametralment oppofees a celles qui avaient engagd lesaccuf(!s a voter contre le Procureur General. Il etait de notoriete publique que ces jures etaient sous I'influence de prcjuges violens contre les accufes, qui avaient d'autant plus de motifs d'en redouter I'influence qu'a cette epoque I'iritation politique etait port6 a un haut degre dans la Province. Croyez-vous que si les proces ;>7aient ete faits devant un petit jur^ ordinaire ces retardemens auraient eu lieu ?— Si ces pror Js aulieuc ete faits devant un jure ordinaire ainfi que les proces pour parjure I'on toujours its invariablement, ces difLuflions ne seraient point elev6 et les accufeS auraient pu subir leur proces beaucoup plutot. lis Teufient subi avec une entiere confiance de- vant un jure ordinaire. Avez-vous cuiLiailTance qu'en mars 1830 la cour ait mis de cflte les jures speciaux, devant les- quels les accuses, Ruckneret AulTant devaient fubir leur proces r"— Lacourmit ces jure's de cOte ; les accufes, entre-autres objections avaient pretendu que la nomination (the nomination) des jures fpeciaux ayant^te faite par le clerc dc la couronne hors de leur prefence ct de celle de leur confeil, et la cour elle meme la declarant telle, en confequence elle mit de cote la nomination qui avait 6te faite par leelercde la couronne, et les corps de jutes qui etaient r^sultes de cette nomination furent egalement mis de cote, cependant les di'fendeu.-s qui depuis longtemps desi- raient que leur proces fut fait, voulurentbien a ce qu'il eut lieu devaiu ces mcmes corps de jures qui ^talent differens de ceux qui avaient ^te choifis en Septembre 18'.!8. Quelle a et^ la d6fenfe d'AulTant ? — La defense repofait fur les fait^ suivans : Quelques jours avant qu'il eut vote a la dite election deSorel, unnomme Francois Gazailledit St. Germain, qui avait comme le dit AulTant fait donation de fes biens, avait vote pour le Procureur General ; fur I'objection qui avait ete faite par Wolfred Nelfon, candidal oppose au Procureur General d la reception de la voix du dit St. Germain a raifon de ce qu'il avait donne ses biens. Le Procureur General dit alors au dit St. Germain qu'il pouvait voter, et I'engagea meme a se qualifier comme propridtaire, en pretant le ferment requis par la loi ; le dit Antoine AufTant qui jusqu'alors avoic refufe de voter, ayant <:te inform^ de I'opinion que le Procureur G^n^ral avait donne au dit St. Germain, fe persuada qu'il avait le droit de voter auffi bien que le dit St. Germain ; tels font les faits sur ICAquels a ruule la defensp du dit AulTant ; je dois remarquer que je n'en ai eu aucune connaifTance perfonnelle, n'ayant point affift£ a cette election, mais ils furent prouves lors du proces d'une maniere fatisfactoire et AulTant fut acquiitC*. Avez O Do you know wether the iaid St. Gertnain was profecuted ;— He was not. What becamn of the indicttnents againd the other individual* whom you have mentioned ?— After Aufisu.c «u J iiuckner had been acquitted, the Attorney General did not take any ultc- ric: proceedings upon the other indictments i nor did he require thofe perfoni who were under bail to renew their recognizancei. Is it within your knowledge, that affidaviu were piu into the handi of the Attorney General, which charged perfona who had voted for him at the faid election, with perjury ?--When the trials of Auuant and Buckner took place, the Attorney General admitted that affidavits, ac« cubing kom< of the ia^ividuaU who ^ voted in bia favour, of perjury, had been put into his hM(J«* .i'.:..i;3 ' yf uism-j ' A ^ 4i j-«^ 8J.- >& l;»trii;. "tll-i'Vi^I-.—^ ''.■11 ':-• ' i\'-^t J 1. ; ;; Mi'i:^' ■) •■ . ■^,';tf.>!(!--i . ; jf/Kl I,! 'ji> t'vif) »-.• >•!■:;■■ --;vi', a-jf -.i^v - 1 ;'*';■-? '., .^ .T-- .'■ i ; I : , :■, *t- ■■ •' :.^-.} 'Ti'l.:V'r * Jt■-^^»^ ;';p:' /,•... ■•^rr.. '.;;, i;. I ■: , f- ' -.'!/• 53 AvcZ'Tous connaiiTance que ledit 8t. Germain nit M pourfuivi ?— II ne I'a pas£t£. Que font devenueslesaccutationacontre leu autre* individug doht voui avea parl£?— Aprcs qu'Anffant el Buckner ont ki|j6 de ceux qui etaient aiora scut caution, it rcnouvellc- inent du cautionnement. Eft-il a votre connaiflance qu'il ait et5 remie au Procureur G jniral de» affidtviti qui accu{li:ent de parjure, des personnes qui avaient vote poui lui a k dite 6lection ?— Lors des proces qui ont eu lieu contre Auflant et Buclcner, le Procureur General a adnil« qae da* affidavits ^ui atCuMitnt de parjure quelques individui qui aTiiont vote en ga favaur, lui avaient etc remis. •;■-■;■,, i'T- .- ' 'y.r'n it-"';i'<: •■■■'/lo '■'■''".'- ' ■',1 i 'i.i, :^<',r.'i- v>^. l':>;tt>' ;'! '■'• ... ' I ■ : . ■ -■■;,, r • V ■■■■. • M 1-,! The Committee then considered the Evidence laid before the Special Committee qf the House qf Assembly, on the Petitions complaining qj Grievances In the Session q/" 1828-9; which Evidence ttt ken from the Appendix {E, E.) of the printed Jounud qf this House for 1829, is asfoUoteeth : The Reverend J, B. Kelly, Priest, Curate of Sorel, appeared before the Commit' mitee, and was examined as follows : — How manyp'ears have you been Curate of the parish of Sorel? — Eleven. Do you reside in the Borough of William Henry, (Sorel) and have you always lived there since you have been Curate of the said parish ? — Yes. Did the then Governor, the Earl of Dalhousic, pass the Summer of 1827i in the house belonging to Government, in the said parish ? — Yes, he passed the Sum- mer there. Did the Governor (Lord Dalhousie) reside there during the time of the last General Election, and particularly during the time the Election was going on in the Borough of William Henry, of a member to represent the said Borough? — Yes, He was then living there. Was the said Election warmly contested? — Very warmly. Did you receive from the then Governor, any communication relative to the Election, before or durinj? the time it was going on? — I received none from the Governor himself; but ^Jr. Welles communicated to me a Note, which had been written to him by the Governor's order, by one of his Aides-de-Camp, and which 3fr. Welles had orders to communicate to mc : this was while the Election was go- ing on. What is Mr. Welles, and what post does he hold at William Henry? — He is Agent for the Seigniory, and Barrack Master. What was the nature of the communication you have just spoken of? — A threat oi complaint to the Bishop, and even to the Minister of State in England, if I did not stop one of the members of my family from interfering at the said Election. Who was the said member of your family ? — My Father. Did Mr. Welles communicate to you the letter in question? — He showed it to me : I do not remember whether I read it myself, or whether he read it to me. From whom did this letter come ? — From Capt, Maule, the Governor's Ne- phew and Aide-de-Camp. Who were the Candidates? — The Candidates were Messrs. James Stuart, (the Attorney General) and Wolfred Nelson. For which of the two Candidates had your father interested himself? — For Mr. Wolfyed Nelson. What answer did you give Mr Welles? — That I was entirely unacquainted with my Father's proceedings; that I had not even heard them spoken of; and that it being my principle not to interfere in the Election, it was absolutely against my intentions that he had so acted. Was your father an Elector for the Borough ? — No. Had you afterwards an interview with the Governor himseli^, and some conver- sation with him on the same subject? — Yes. Was this Vi hile the Election was going on ? — Yes. Can you say what was the nature of that conversation, and on what it turned? — The conversation turned on the proceedings imputed to my Father with regard to the Election , His Excellency alledging, that the sentiments manifested by my Fa- ther at the Election must of necessity be mine, since he lived in my house, adding that he could not believe it was otherwise, and that he had been told that a cabal had long been formed against the views of Government, with regard to the said Election. What t LeComili a alors procidd d prendre en consideration les Umoignages refua decant le ComiU Spicial de la Chambre d'Asiemblee sur les petitions se plaignant de Griefs durant la Session de 1828-9. Lesqueh tdmoignages de rAppindice \E, E.) dans le Journal de 1829, iont comme atiit .— Mesaire /. B, Kelly, Ptrc. cur6 de Sorel, a comparu devaut le comity et a 6t6 examine comme suit : Depn's comblen d'anndes £tes voiis cur^ de cette paroisse ? — Depuia onze ans. Demeiirez-vous au bourg de William Henry et avezvous toujours demeure depiiis que vous 6tes cure de la paroisse ? — Oui. Le Gouvemeur comte Daliiousie a-t-il pass6 I'etd de mil huit-cent vingt-sept dans la maison appartenant au gouvernement dans la paroisse? — Oui il y a pass6 r^te. Le gouvemeur comte Dalhousie y dcmeurait-il pendant le temps de la derniere 6lcction gen^rale et notammcnt pendant qu'elle se faisait dans le bourg de William Henry pour I'dlectiou d'un membre pour reprdsenter le bourg? — Oui il y dcmeurait. Cette Election fut-elle vivement contestee ? — Tr^s vivement. Re9utes vous du gouvemeur alors quelques communications relativement a Selection, avant ou pendant qu'on y procedait ? — Je ne re9us pas du gouvemeur lui m^me, mais j'eus communication par M. Welles d'un billet qui lui avait it& (iCTit par ordre du gouvemeur, par un de ses aides de camp, et que M. Welles avait eu ordre de me communiquer ; c'etait pendant que I'on procedait k I'cleclion. Quel est ce M. Welles et quelle fonction remplit-il h. William Henry ? — II est agent de la seigneurie et maitrc des cazernes (barrack master.) Quelle etait la nature de la communication dont vous venez de parler ? — Une menace de porter plainte a I'tvfque et meme au ministre d'etat en Angleterre, si jc n'arritais pas un membre de ma famille de se meler de Telection. Quelle 6tait ce membre de votre femille P — Mon Pere. M, Welles vous communiqua't-il la lettre en question ?- II me I'a montrde, mais je ne me rappelle pas si je I'ai lu moi-meme ou s'il me la lu. De qu: <;tait cette lettre ? — Du capitaine Maule, neveu et aide-de-camp du gouvemeur. Quels (■taient les candidats ? — Les candidats ([talent Messieurs James Stuart, Procureur General, et Wolfied Nelson. Pour le quel de ces deux candidats, M. votre pere s'etait-il interesse ? — Pour J\L Wolfred Nelson. Quelle fut votre ri^ponse ;\ M. Welles?- Que j'ignorais absolument les prece- des de mon ptre, que je n'en avals pas meme entendu parler; et qu'ayant pour principe de nc pas me meler moi-mcme d'election, cetait absolument contre nies intentions qu'il avait agi ainsi. Votre pere etait-t-il electeur dans le bourg ? — Non. Avez-vous eu depuis une entrevue avec le gouvemeur lui-mcme et quelqu'en- tretien avec lui sur le meme sujet ? — Oui. Etait-ce pendant que I'on procedait ii I election ? — Oui. ' Pouvcz-vous dire que' fut la nature de cetentretien, et sur quoi il roula?— La conversation roula sur les demarches que I'on imputait ;\ mon p^re relativement a I'election ; Son Excellence aileguant que les sentimens que mon p^re avait niontr^ dans cette election, devait ctre absolument les miens, puis qu'il restait ' dans ma maison, et ajouta qu'il ne pouvait pas croire qu'il en iut autrement ; et qu'on lui avait dit qu'il y avait eu une cabale formee depuis long-terns contre les vues du gouvernement dans cette election. Quelle z' 56 What remarks did vou then make on this subject ? — T remarked to the f Jo- vcrnor, that although 1 did not myself interlcre in the KU-ction, or even wiih po- litics, 1 was always gtad to know what was going on ; and tliat I could assure His Excellency that the inhabitants of the Borough of William llcnry, bud not in any manner been for a long time caballing witi> respect to this Election ; that it was the business of the moment, that they had no wi»li to do what might he offensive to himself or to the (Jovernment, and that the opposition was to Mr. Stuart per- sonally, who at that very time was still abusing all who came to vote against him. Did you visit the Governor in consequence ol' the counnunication Mr. Welles liad made to you ? — Yes. Did you then speak to him, and did you enter into some explanation with him betbre the commencement of the conversation ? — 1 told him that I came in conse- quence of a letter written hy his Aidc-de-Camp to Mr. Welles, inculpating me in tiic business of the Election. Did you atler that time receive any new communication from tlie Governor, on the same subject ? — Yea. What was the nature of this communication ? — After the Election I went to the (iovernor's house, to call on him, as 1 was in the habit of doing from time to time ; having spoken to one of his Aides-de-Camp, he told me that Ills E.tcellcncy being busy, could not sec me; I replied to the Aide-de-Camp, that it was the same thing, and that I would come again another time ; two hours afterwards, I received a note from Capt. Hope, one of the Governor's Aides-do-Camp, aiid written by his orders, informing me that he was commanded by His Excellency, to tell me, that jn consequence of what had happened at my hou.te, in relation to the Election, His Excellency conceived it to be contrary to his public duty to receive my visits any longer. Can yon produce tliis note, or a copy of it? — I cannot produce it at this mo- ment ; and I beg to be allowed until to-morrow to do so. Did you, in consequence of this letter, yourself write to the Governor, the Earl of Dalhousie? — No — but I sent an answer to the Aide-de-Camp from whom I had received the note. Did the Governor send an answer?— Yes. Can you lay before the Committee, the correspondence which passed on this subject?— I cannot at tliis moment ; I beg to be allowed until to-morrow to doit. Do you know Andr6 Lavallee, of Sorel? — Yea. Does he enjoy a good character ; and may his testimony be credited ; is ho ;» proprietor of real property in the Borough of William Henry? — Ves, he is a sober and honest man ; and a proprietor in the Borough. Ordered, That Andr^ Lavalke bo required to appear before the Committee to- morrow at ten o'oclock, jfmit'e Lavallee, of the Parish of Sorel, Vot/affeur, was called before the Com- mittee, and examined at follows :•— Are you a proprietor in the village of Sorel ? — Yes. Are you an Elector for the Borough of William Henry, as proprietor? — Yes, 1 have a building lot, ^emplacement) with a house and buildings on it, and I re- side there. Do you know Mr. S. Gale, of Montreal ; and when did you last sec him ? — I do know him. The last time I saw him, was on the day bcfwe that on which the last Election for the Borough of William Henry was to begin, towards the end of tjie month of July 1827" 1 drovo him on that day from Sorei to St. Michel dcYanwika, Had y»u- on. this occasion any and what conversation with him on the subject of k yl ^ s V 57 Quelles furent vos proprcs observations k ce sujet alors ? — ^Je fis observer au Gouverncur que (|Uoii|(iu jc ne me mdasse point d'^lection, ni m£me de politique, que jY-taia bien aisc dc savoir cc qui se passait, et que je pouvais assurer Son Ex- cellence que les gens du Bourg de William Henry n'avuit nullement, ni de longuu main, cubdl^ dans ccttc Section ; que c'6tait I'anaire du moment, et qu'ils n'ea voulaient nullement. au guuverneinent ni k lui mume (lord Dnlliousic) mais que c'i'tait contro I'individu M. Stuart, qui dans le moment m^^me disait encore cUs injures \ tons ceux qiit venaient voter contre lui. Avez-vousi'te voir le gouvernour en consequence dc la communication que M. Welles vous avail faite ? — Qui. Lui en parlutes vous alors et lui fites vousquelques explications a ce sujet avant de commencer I'entrctien ? — Je lui dis que je venais en consequence d'line lettre (crite par son aide-de-camp i\ M. Welles, qui ni'inculpait danvl'aifairede I'clection. Avez-vous cu dcpuis qucUjues nouvelles communications de la pnrt du gou- verneur, sur le m^me sujet? — Oui. Quelle ^tait la nature dc cette communication ? — Apr^s l'61ection j'allais a la maison du Gouverneur pour lui fuire une visite comme je le faisais de tems a au- tre, m'etant adresse ii iin dc ses aides-de-camp, celui-ci vint me dire que Son Excellence elant occup(^, ne pouvait pas me voir ; je r^pondis A I'aide-de-camp, que c'^tait ^gal, que je reviendrais unc autre f'ois; deux heures apres, je refiis une note du capitainc Hope, un des aides de-camp du Gouverneur, ccrite par son ordre, par laquelle il m'intormait que Son Excellence lui avail ordonn^ demc dire qu'en consequence de ce qui etait arriv6 chez moi, relativemenl a IVIeclion, Son Excellence croyait quMl elait centre son devoir public de recevoir davantage mes visiles. Pouvez-vousproduire cette note cuunecopie? — Je ne puis la produire dausce moment, el je demanded'icia d.ma n pour te faire. Avez-vous en consi'qucnce de cette note, <;crit vous m^me an Gouverneur comte Dalhousie? — Non ; mais j'ai rejjondu a laide-de-camp, de qui j avais re^u la note. Le gouverneur a-t il rc-pondu ? — Oui. Pouvez-vous meltre sous les yeux du comite la correspondance qui a eu lieu ;\ ce sujet?— Je ne puis la produire dans ce moment, et je demande d'ici ii dcmain pour le faire. Connaissez vous le nomme Andre LavalU'e de Sorel ? — Oui. Get homme jouit-il d'une bonne v. putation, et peut-on ajouter foi ii son lemoi- gnage, est-il proprietaire de tbnds dans le Bourg de William Henry ? — Oui ; c'esl un liomme sobre et honnete, et propriitaire dans le buurg. Ordonne, Qu'Andre Lavallee soil requis de comparaitre devant le comite demain i\ dix heures. Andre Lavallee, voyageur, de la Paruissc de Sorel, a tie appelle devant le comite, et examine comme suit : Etes-vous proprirlaitre dans le village de Sorel ?- - Oui. Etes-vous clecteup dans le bourg de William Henry ou Sorel, comme propri- etaire ? — Oui ; j'ai un emplacement aveo maison et b;\tisse, et j'y demeure. Connaissez vous M. S. Gale, de Montriial, et quand I'avez-vous vu la dernicre fbis? — Je leconnais; la- derniere fbi.s que je I'ai vu ctait la veille du jour ou devait commi nccr la dernitre election pour ie bourg de William Henry, vers le mois de Juillet la27. Je I'ai mene ce joui-la de Sorel a St. Michel d'Yamaska. Avez-vous eu avec lui dans cette occasion quelques conversations au sujet de la dile jlf i' 58 of the said Election ? — Yes, he began by asKing me whether I was aa Elector for the Borough of William Henry ; upon my saying I \vas, he asked me for which of the two Candidates I intended voting ; I told him I did not know, and that I had not yet decided for whom I should vote : he then put his hand into nis poc- ket and drew it out full of money, as it appeared to me, (there were scvei u pieces of money) saying to me, " if you vote for Mr. Stuart, 1 will give you what I have got in my hand." What was your answer to this ?— I refused him, saying that T could vote ii'ith- out being paid. Did not this conversation take place at Sorel itself, when Mr. Gale spoke to you on the subject ? — Yes. it began as we were starting from Sorel. Mr. James Stu- art, the Attorney General, and one of the Candidates at the Election, passed close by us, with Mr. Welles and Dr. Von liHand, who were canvassing for votes,-- When they saw us they bowed and signed to us to stop, but as I suspected that they meant to solicit my vote, I paid ro attention, and drove on. Mr. Gale then remarked to me, that he thought Mi. Stuart was canvassing for votes, and it was thereupon that the conversation I had with Mr. Gale, is I have just related it, commenced. Can ycu positively ray that Mr. Gale offered you money to vote in iiivor of Mr. Stuart.? — Yes. Jean Crebassa, of Sorel, Shopkeeper, then appeared before the Committee, and was examined as follows : — Do you know Andr^ Lavall<;e, of William Henry, the witness who has just been . .vamined ?— I am well acquainted with him ; he is a perfectly honest man, Wi s he an Elector for the Borough of William Henry, at the time of the last Election in 1^2?, ns being proprietor?— Yes, he is proprietor of a building lot, a lioiise ir which he lives, and of buildings. AVere you present at the last Election held at William Henry, in 1827? — Yes, I attended every day, but not continually. Was this Election warmly contested? — Yes. Do you know Mr. Welles, of the said Borough of William Henry? — Yes. DoL'S he hold any situation of a public nature in the place? — He is the Go- vernment Agent for the Seigniory: I believe he is also Barrack Master j and he is a Justice of the Peace. WliO were the Candidates at the said last Election, in 1827 ? — James Stuart, Esquire, Attorney General, and Ductor Wolfred Nelson, of St. Denis. Did not Mr. Welles take a very active part at this Election, in favor of the At- torney General? — He took an active pait in favor of the Attorney General. Was he exposed to any threats on the part of either of the Candidates, on the subject ofthe said Election? -He received some from the Attorney General. What was the nature of these threats? — Mr. Stnart addrssed him at the Poll, during the E.ection, and threatened him, that if he was not more active he would report him to the Governor. Was the Governor, (Lord Dalhousie) at that time living in the neighbourhood of the said Borough, io the parish of Sorel, and did he not pass the Summer there?— Yes, he passed a great jjart ol the Summer there. Weie there many persons present at the Poll when the threat yoti liave just spoken of was made to Mr. Welles? - Yes, a great many. Were there several Justices of tiie Peace in the Borough n/" William Henry at tlic time of ihc last Election, and what were their names f— There were, Messrs. Robert 59 dite election, et quelles ? — Oui ; il m'a d'abord demandc si j'etais dlecteur pour Ic bourg de William Henry ; sur ma r^'ponse affirmi tive, il me demanda pour iequel des deux candidats je me pioposais de voter ; je lui dis que je ne savais pas, que je n'ctais pas encore d(^*cid^ pour qui je voterais ; alors il mit la main dans sa poche, et I'en retira pleine d argent k ce qu'il me parut, (il y avait plu- sieurs pieces d'argent")en me disanl ; sivous voulez voter pour M. Stuart, je vais vous donnerce que j'ai dans la main. Quelle flit votre reponse alors ? — Je le refusal, lui disant que je pouvais voter sans 6tre pay6. Cette conversation n'a-t-elle pas eu lieu a Sorel meme, lorsque M. Gale en parlait avec vous? — Oui; elle a commence comma nous partions de Sorel. M. James Stuart, le Procureur General, et Tun des candidats a IVlection, passa pr^s de nous, avec M. Welles et le Dr. Von Iffland, qui cherchaient des voix. Lorsqu'ils nous apper9urent5 ils nous firent signe en nous saluant, d'arn^ter, mais comme je doutais qne c'^tait dans I'intention de solliciter ma voix, je n'y fis aucune at- tention, et continua mon chemin. Alors M. Gale me remarqua qu'il pensait que M. Stuart cherchaic des voix, eta cette occasion, la couversation que j'ai eu avec M. Gale, te) que cidessus, commen9a. Pouvez-vous dire pos.tivement que M. Gale vons ait offert da I'argent pour voter en faveur de M. J. Stuart ? — Oui. Jean Crebassa, Ecuyer, Marchand de Sorel, a alors paru devant le comite, et a at examine comme suit ; Connaissez-vous Andre Lavailc, de William Henry, le temoin qui vient d'etre examine?— Jele conna-lstres bien, ctc'e'st un partait lionnete homme. Etait-il electeur a'^ bourg le William Henry lors de la dernieje election, en mil huit cent vingt-sef,c, ;\ titre de proprietaire? — Oui, il est proprietaire d'un em- placement, maison ou il demeure, et batimens. F.tiez-vous present a la deiniere «;]ection qui s'est fait ;\ William Henry, en mil huit cent vingt-sept? — Oui, j'y aiassiste tons les jours, mais non pas conti- nuellcment. Cette election a-t-elle ^te vivcment conteste? — Oui. Connaissez-vous M. Welles, du dit bourg de William Henry? — Oui. llemplit-ilquelque charge ou i'onction dune nature pubii(iue dans I'endroit ? — Jl est agent de la seigneurie pour le gouvernemsnt ; je crois qu'il est aussi Barrack Master, et il est juge depaix. Qui 6taient les condidals a cette derniere Election, en mil huit cent vingt- sept.' — James Stuart, ecuyer, Procureur General, et le Doctcur VVolfred Nelson, de St. Denis. M. ^Velles, n'a-t-il pas pris une ]iarttr^s active dans cette ('"lection, en faveur do M. le Procureur General? — II a pris une part active en faveur de M. le Procu- reur General. A-t-il (f'te expose a quclques menaces de la part de I'un ou I'autre des ditscan. didats au sujet de la dite election ? — II en a recu de la part du procureur g^'ueral. Quelle 6taitla nature de ces menaces ? — M. Stuart s'adressaa lui au Poll durant I'clection, et le mcnaca s'il i i tait pas plus actif quil le rapporterait au gou- verneur. Le gouverneur, comte de Dalhousie, demeurait-il alors dans le voisinage du dit bourg, dans la paroisse de Sorel, et n'y a-t-il pas passe le'te Pi— Oui, il y a passe une grande partiedc I'et^. Y avait-il bcaucoup de monde au Poll quand la menace dont vous venez de parler, a 6te faite a M. Welles ? — Oui un grand nombre. y avait-il plusieu.is jugcs de paix dans le bourg de William Henry, lors de la derniiire wmm !! i Robert Jones, John K. Welles, Henri Crebassa, Anthony Von Iffland and the Rev. Mr. Jackson, Minister of the English Episcopal Church. With regard to the last, I do not know whether he has taken the oath in order to qualify himself as Magistrate : I have never seen him act in that capacity. Did they all interfere very actively in the Election, and in whose favor did they interest themselves? — They all, with the exception of Mr. Jackson, and Mr. Crebassa, (who was Returning Officer) took a very active part at the said Elec- tion, in favor of the Attorney General. Were any of these Magistrates dismissed ? — They were not. The Rev. J. B. Kelly, again appeared, and being called upon to produce Cap- tain Hope's note, and the correspondence mentioned in his examination of yes- terday, produced Captain Hope's note, which is as follows : •« Mr. Hope is directed by Lord Dalhousie, to inform the Rev. Mr. Kelly, that " after what has passed in his house on the subject of the last Election. His Ex- " cellency does not believe it to be compatible with his public duty to receive Mr. •• Kelly's visits for the future. " Sorel, 14th August.'* Wednesday, 4th February, 1829. Present: — Messrs. Viger, Ileney, Lefebvre, Leslie and CvviUier. Mr, Viger in the Chair. Mr, Pierre Triganne, of the Borougli of William Henry, Bailiff of the Court of King's Bench, appeared before the Committee, and was examined, as follows : — How long have you been resident at William Henry ? — For nearly two } ears. Was the election for the choice of members to serve in the Provincial Parlia- ment, in July 18i27, varmly contested in the Borough of William Henry ? —Yes. Dill you interest yourself about the election — did you take a part in it, and in whiise favor? — Yes, in favor of Wolfrcd Nelson, Were any threats used towards you about punishing you, or causing you to be punished for having taken part in the said election ?— Dr. Von Iffiand came to my house in the afternoon of the 2d or 3d day of the election ; he told me to take good care of myself, for that the Attorney General was angry with me, be- cause it appeared that I took j)art in favor of Mr. Nelson ; and that it might happen lliiit he might do me niiscliicf, as he had much influence with the Sheriff, On the following morning, he came to ask me on the part of the Attorney Gene- ral, whom I was going to call on at Mr. Burke's ; he said to me, " are you not a public oihcer ?" On answering In the affirmative, he said to me, " it si^ems that you .. , ^< 61 derniere Election, et quels etait leurs noms ? — II y a MM. Robert Jones, John K. Welles, Henri Cr^bassa, Anthony Von Iffland et le R^vcrnd M. Jackson, minis- tre de I'eglise ^piscopale d'Angleterre. Quant a ce dernier, je ne sais pas s'il a pris le serment pour se qualifier comme magistrat : je ne Tai jannais vu agir en cette quality. Se sont-ils m^l^s de I'clection d'une maili^re tres active, ct en faveurde qui se sont-ils intdresses ? — Tout ;\ reception de Monsr. Jackson et de Monsr. Cr^bass^ qui etait officier rapporteur, se sont miiles de Selection d'une mani^reti'^s active on faveur du procureur general. Aucun des magistrats a t-ii 6te destitue? — lis ne I'ont point 6l6. MessireJ. B. Kelly a paru de nouveau, et ^tant requis de produire la note du capitaine Hope, et la correspondance dont il est fait mention dans son examen d'hier; a produit la note du capt. Hopelaquelle sont comme suit: — " M. Hope est charge par le lord Dalhonsie d'informer M. Kelly, que d'apr^s •• cc qui s'est passe dans sa maison au sujet de la derniere election. Son Excel- •' lence ne croit pas qu'il soit compatible avec son devoir public de recevoir ;\ •* I'avenir les visites de M. Kelly. " Sorel, 14 A out. Mercredi, 4 Fevrier 1829. Presens:— Messieurs Viger, Heney, Lefibvre, Lalie et Cuvillier. M. Viger an Fauteuil. M. Pierre Triganr.e, du Bourg de William Henry, huissier de la Cour du Roi, a coinparu devant le Comite et a ete examine comme suit : — t\ , r-i^ t Dcpuis quand demeurez vous a William Henry ? — Depuis pres de deux ans. La derniiTC clec'ion pour (lire des membres du parlemcnt provincial en Juillet 1827, a-t-elle ^te vivement contcstec au Bourg de William Henry? — Oui. Vousctes vous meledelVlection, ct y avez vous pris une part et en faveur de qui ? — Oui, en faveurde M. WoUVcd Nelson. Vous a-t on fait quelques menaces de vous punir ou vous faire punir d'avoir pris part dans cette clcci on .? — Le Dr. Von lillnnd cstvenu chez moi 1 aprcs midi, le premier ou deuxicme j lur dc lYlection ; il me dit dc bien prendre garde a mo', parcequc le I'rocureur-Gene'ral c'tait fachc contrc moi, parcequ'il paraissait que je preiiais la p irl de M. Nelson, et qu'il pourrait arriver qu'il me nuirait, par- cequ'il avail beaiicoup dinfluentc aupics du Shcrif ; le lendemaiu on vint mc de- mander de la part dc. ProcureurGnn'ral, que j'allai tiouver chez M. Burke ; il me dit, nVtes vous pas un officier public ; sur ma reponse affirmative, il me dit ; il parait que vous avez fait beaucoupd'cSbrtscontie moi. Ju lui dis, il mc pjrait que r ! 62 vou are making great exertions against me." I said to him, " it appears you are prejudiced against me." He asked me, if I had a vote to give, for whom I should give it ; I told him I did not come there to flatter him, and that if 1 had a vote, I should give it to whom I pleased. Did you hear threats used at the poll towards the electors who came to give their votes, and by whom and to what electors were they used ?— I heard the Attorney General say to several persons who appeared to have come for the pur- pose of voting for Mr. Nelson, and who afterwards voted for him, " take good •« care of yourselves, for if after you have taken the oath, it appears that you have " no right to vote, I shall prosecute you ; and if you give a false vote, you will be " guilty of perjury, and will be put in the pillory ; Mr. Nelson won't take your «' place for you." Was Mr. Von liHand whom you have mentioned above, a magistrate in the; Borough of William Henry, and is he so still ? — He was so at that time, and I be- lieve he still is. Was he a warm partizan ; and in whose favor ? He appeared to be a warm partizan of the Attorney General. Narcisie Crebassa, Esquire, of William Henry, Student atLaw, was then called in, and examined, as follows : Do you reside at the Borough of William Henry, and how long have you done so ? — I was born there, and I am twenty-four years of age. Was the last election of Members to serve in the I'rovincial Parliament, in 1827„ warmly contested in the Borough of William Henry ? — Yes. Did you attend at the poll duiing the continuance of the said election ? — Yes, the greater pait of the time. Do you know that threats were frequently used towards the electors who came to vote ? — Yes ; on the part of one candidate, (Mr. Stuart, the Attorney Gene- ral,) towards many of the electors, who came to vote for Mr. Wolfred Nelson, the other candidate. What were these threats ? — He said to many of the electors who came to vote for Mr. Nelson, that they hadnor ight to vote ; and that if they voted without beinu very sure that they had a right to vote, he was Attorney General, that he would prosecute them, and cause them to be put in the pillory : And when Mr. Nelson assured them that they had a right to vote, Mr. Stuart told thcni to take good tare ; that Mr. Nelson would not put himself in their places, that he might be a good doctor, but tliat he did not understand the law ; many were iniimidated by these speeche."!, and did not vote till some time, afterwards, Were not several electors arrested and put under bail dining the course of the election ? - I believe seven or eight. Do you know tliat a man of the name of A. Cicrmain, the elder, voted at the .said election, ami in whose favor ? — He voted for the Attorney General. Had this A. Germain, to your knowledge, any real jiroperty belonging lf> him ? No ; he had made a donation of all his property many years before, and had only a life rent, a circumstance which he himself explained at the poll, before he voted. Mas much opposition made to his vote being received, and was there miicli discussion made on.this subject ; and what passed at that time ? — Mr. Nelsoji remarked to him, that ha\ing made a donation of all his pioperty he had no right to 63 qiie vous Ctes pn'ivenu contre moi. II me demanda si j'avais une voix k donner, pour iiiii je la donnerais ; je liii dis que je nVnais pas venu la pour le Batter, que si j'en avais une, je la donnerais k qui bon me semblerait. Avez-vous entendu au poll faire des menaces aux G fal, ierassuraen lui prendre la main, et lalui mitsur lelivre d'^vangile; il prit alors les sermens comme propri(jtaire, et vota pour M. Stuart. Est-il i\ votro connaisance que d'autres personnes dansle mfimecas que St. Ger- main aient vot^', en consequence de I'opinion que M. le Procureur-G^niJral avait mise au jour relativement tl St. Germain ? — Aprts que M. St. Germain a eu donn^ savoix, deux personnes. Tune nomm^e Aussant et I'autre Hus ditCourno)er, qui avaicnt aussi fait donation deleurnbiens, ontvot^pour M.Nelson; lorsqu'ils se pr^sent^rent pour vo'^'^r, M. le Procureur-G^n^ral objecta en leur disant qu'ayant fait donation de leurs jiens, ils n'avait pa>. le droit de voter, et qu'il les poursui- vraitpour parjure ; sur quoi plusicurs personnes, et eiix-m^mes, remarquerentque St. Germain ayant vot^, et qu'ctant dans la meme situation, ilsavaient droit de le faire ; et ils out vot^ apri:s avoir prcSte le serment k la demande du Procxreur-Ge- ii^ral. Lesnommt'S Aussant et Cournoyer dont vous avez parl^ ont-ils <5t6 depuis ac- cuses de pjrjure devant le Courdu Banc du Roide Montreal pour les matit^res criminelles ? — Oui. Lenomm6 St. Germain a-t-il 6t6 lui meme poursuivi devant le Cour du Banc du Roi ?— Non. Y a-t-il eu plusicurs autres61ecteurs aux votes desquels M. Nelson s'est opposf- comme n'ayant aucune propriety fonci^re, ou ne payant un loyer soufiisant pour les qualifier ?...I1 y en a pliisieurs. Plusieurs de ceux ci ont-ils pretele serment requis pour les qualifier comme pro- pri(ftaircs ou locataires ? — Oui, plusieurs. Quelques-uns des electeurs qui ont vote en faveur de M. le Procureur-Gendral dans cette election ont-ils 6t& poursuivis devant la Courdu Brnc du Roi? — Plus- ieurs ont^te accuses de parjure, ont he arr^tes en consequence, ont h& mis sous caution ; mats je n'ai pas connaissance qu'ils aient h€ poursuivis. M. le Procureur-G^-n^ral a-t-il povrsuivi devant la ( 'our Criminelle plusieurs dest-jectcurs quiavaient vot6 en faveur de M. Nelson? — Oui, il en a poursuivi plusieurs. I < John Dclisle, Ecuycr, a comparu de nouveau et son examen a ete continue. Y-a-t-il eu plusieurs actes d'accusations (indictments,) de parjure soumis aux grands-jures dans le terme de la cour criminelle de septembre 1827 ? — II y en a eu cinq de presentes, dont quatre ont ete rejetteset un rapporte. Quels sont les noms des personnes qui ^taient accus^es ? — Les quatre premiers mement violeiis contru le pcuplu du pays, scs reprtlscntans on la chambrc d'ussembltl'O ?— J'ai rcmarqu^qui'lcpies paiagraphes violensdecctte deH- cription, qui sans doute poveiiaient do seiiiblubles paragraplies dans Ic Specta- teur, Ic Canadian Spectator ct la Minerve contru I'administratiou, ct ceux qui la hoiitcnaient. Avez vods connaissancc quaucuns des Editeurs on Imprimcurx de ces Ga- acttcs, le Herald de Montreal, la Gazette otticlello do Montreal, la (Jazette cffi- (•icllede (^ii^bcc, aient etc poursuivis pour iibpllcs ? — Jen'en ai pas connais- sancc. Cos pupiers (-taient-ils en faveur de radministration du Lord DaUiousie ? — Qui. Extrait du tdtnoignage de Charles Mondelet, Ecuyer. Quclqucs poursnites pour libellcs ont-ellcs en lieu dans le District des Trois- Ilivitires ? — II n'y a pas en de noursuites aux Trois-Rivic'rcs, mais il y en a cu a Qu(!bec, contre moi, qooiqueje sois domicilie aux Trois-Hivirrts. _Entre la publication du libclle que I'on vous a impute et I'accnsation portio contre vous a Quebec, ne s'est-il tenue aucunecour criminellc aux Trois-lliviires, devant laquelle cette accusation aurait pu ftre portcc et suivie avcc aulant d'cfli- cacite que dans la capitale ; et y eut il quelque chose de remarqtiabic dans la nia- nifre dont ces poursuites out I'ti" intentt'es et poursuivics contre vous? — Lcs accu- sations portt'cs a Qui bee par le Procureur-General, contre moi, I'ont <'tc cm mars dernier. Lcs deux I'crits que I'on m'attribuait aviit (t6 publics dans la (iazette de Quebec, Inn (une lettre au Lord Daliiousie) en novembre 18^27, et I autre, rlcs precedes du comite constitutionnel du distiict des Trois Uivif;,,^, du '25 levrier derniei,) Ie2"hlt, Ci- " tizens and liurgesses, in the Proclamation misnamed 7«/7///m/, have forty days ♦' to reflect on their misdeeds'. " What good can be expected from a body who have exhibited such a por- *' feet ignorance of their iluty, such an utter contempt lor all constitutional " authoiity, and such blind obedience to an unprincipled leader, as have been " shewu by the majority of the Assernbly of the Provincial Parlia*nent of Lower- " Canada, on their memorable Session of three days duration." «Tbe 75 proc^der contre ies accuses de libelles, et il demanda que nous entrassions en reconnaissance de nouveau pour notre comparution au terme de mars prochain ; re queje fus oblig6 de faire malgre mon opposition. Avant de donner mon cautionnement je voulus excepter de la jurisdiction de la cour, le procureur- gent^ral opposa queje devrais plaider par ecrit ; la majority de la cour decida que je plaiderais par ecrit. Je suis maintenaut sous caution pour bonne conduite et pour ma comparution an terme de mars prochain ; Ies cautionnemens ont etc pour Ies mi^mes sommes qu'en avril dernier. J'ai envoyfi depuis a Quebec mon plaidoyer a la jurisdiction de la cour, npres avoir euen Septembre, la permission de le filer. Quelle est la nature des accusations (jndiclments) portees contre vous? — J'ai pris communication au bureau du grefier de la couroune des indictemens rap- port('s contre nrioi ; j'y suis accuse' de libelles sedilieu^, d'etre I'eiDiemi du Gouver- nement, et d'autres expressions a peu pres de la mfime nature, relatifs aux accu- sations mises a ma charge. L'un de ces indictemens renferme au long, et note de libelle, une lettreau Lord Dalliousie, le 10 nouvembre 1S27, et publieo comme je I'ai deja dit, dans le Gazette de Quebec, du 12 du meme mois, et qui m'a etc attribuee. L'autre indictement est fond6 sur Ies procedes du comite constitu- tionnel du district des Trois-Rivi^res, du 25 fcvrier 1828, (y comprises Ies re- marques,) qui m'ont 6te attributes. J'ai deju mentionne que le tout se trouve dansle numero ;}830 de la Gazette de Quebec, publics le 28 fevrier 1828. Avez-vous donn6 quelqu'attention auxfeuillesperiodiqucsqui ontetd impriraes dans cette province depuis environ deux ans, et qui ctaient dans I'interet de I'administration pendant que le Lord Daihousic etait gouverncur en cette pro- vince ? — Oui, j'ai eu I'habitude de suivre de bieu pres Ies affaires du pays, ct ies feuilics p{'riodiques dans I'intilTet de I'administration du Lord Dalhousie aussi bien que Ies a. tres. Avez-vous remarqu6 si dans Ies feuilles qui Ctaient dans I'interet de cette ad- ministration il :.'.' ti'ouvait souvent des productions dans les(iuelles on insultait le peuple ou Ies roresentans du pays, ou Ies hommes publics qui se trouvaient en opposition a cette administration? — Oui, et fort souvent. PouveZ'Vou' en indiquer quelques-uncs ? — Oui, ctje produis Ies extraits sui- vans, que j'.a faits " du Quebec Mercury, de la Gazette Ofticieile de Quebec, " et de la Gizette officiellc de Montreal." Ces ecrit s'ttendent depuis le 24 iiovembre 182/, jusqu'au 8 septembre 1828 inclusivcment. J'aurais pu en pro- duire beaucoup o'iutres, mais je me suis borne aux plus saillans. II y en a eu beaucoup d'autres a I'epoque et depuis la prorogation du parlemcnt du 7 mars 1827. Extrait du Mercwe de Quebec, en parlant des debats de I'assemblee sur la question de I'Orateur, numero DC. — 24) novembre 1827. " Le parlement provincial actuel est niaintenant proroge et Ies "chevaliers, " citoyens et bourgeois" de la province qui sont faussemont qualifies dans la •' proclamation de jldc/es &c. ont quarante jours u reflechir sur Icurs mefaits, " (misdeeds.)" " Quel bien pcut-on attendrc des deliberations d'un corps qui a montre une " ignorance aussi parfaite de ses devoirs, un mepris aussi complet de toute " autorite constitutionnelle, et une obeissanco aussi aveugle a un chef sans " principes, que celle qu'u montiee la majorite de !a cliambre d'asscmblee du " parlement provincial du Bas-Canada, durant la session memorable des trois " jours." " Les " The Commons of Lower-Canada succeeded to the full, in rendering them- selves contemptible and ridiculous." Extract from the Montreal Official Gazette of the 2Gth November. 1827, vol. 4, No. 8G. — Editorial Paragraph. «■ We are perfectly astonished at the phrenzy and delusion which charac- " terize the first acts of the House of Assembly." Extract from the Qusbec Official Gazette, of the 26th November 1827. Edi- torial Paragrapli. Speaking of the conduct of the House, in persisting in the election of Mr. Papineau, as Speaker, and of the prorogation of the Par- liament : " Such for the present has been the winding up of a scene that nothing " could justify, and which, without the firmness shewn by the head of the Ad- '• ministration, would undoubtedly have been followed by a revolution in this " Province." The same Gazette under the same head : " We should not render justice to the small number of His Majesty's faithful " and loyal subjects, who formed the minority in this scandalous scene, if we did not nut make them known to our readers." '• not not make them known to our readers. Itr Extract from the Montreal Official Gazette of the '2Dth November 1827, vol. i, No. 8d. Editorial Paragraph. Speaking of a meeting held at Quebec, on the subject of the territory in dispute between the United States and New- Brunswick, it supposes in the House of Assembly the view which it attributes to the said meeting held at Quebec, those of revolutionizing the country: the paragraph is as ibilinvs, word for word: " We think we can conjecture the object of those who convened the Quc- '• bpc meeting, and who are so anxiously awake to the dignity and iiitrrcsts of • this Province. If we are not mistaken, they fancy they see, in the present position of the United States, a favorable opportunity for the accomplishment of their daring schemes. They imagine that the elrctiou of (ieneral Jackson to the Presidency is certain, and conceive from that event, assistance maybe derived to carry into execution, schemes of national independence and pi rsonal ag- grandizement. The prob.ibility of this event may aiso have determined the " obstinacy of the House of Assembly, and encouraged them to persist in their " strange resistance. By alarming the British Governme.it on this point, by " keepinu: up a high toned remonstrance, and by using all the common topics " of, oppression, tyranny, S^c, they flatter themselves that their object will le- " ceive a more ready accomplishment, and that tliey may wrest fiom alarm and " and apprehension, what a sense of justice would never concede to them. If •« those motives are the mainsprings which influence the conduct of the future " dignitaries of the " Nation Omndienne,' we humbly conjecture that they read " the signs of the times very badly. We hardly conceiv^ the possibility of the " (Jeneral's success, and still less the chance of his eutertaming the wild idea of •« Canadian conquest ; and tliat there is an infinitely less jiroportiou of probabi- " lity in the idea of the British Government being uiliuencedby such speculations «' to 77 " Les communes du Bas-Canada ont compl^tement reussi ;\ se rendre mtpri- «' sables et ridicules." Estrait de la. Gazette qfficieile de Montreal, du 26 novembre 1827, vol.4, n°. 86. — Paragiaphe Editorial. " Nous sommes tou-iWait ^tonnes de la fr^n6sie et I'ignorance qui caracterisent " les premiers actes de la chambre d assemblde.'' Extrait de la Gazette officiellc de Quebec, du 29 noverabre 1827. — Paragraphe editorial. En parlant de la conduite de la chambre, persistant dans I'election de M. Pa- pineau comme oratcur, ot de la prorogation du parlement : " Tel jusqu'a present, a et6 denouement d'une sc^neque rien ne pent justifier, " et qui sans la i'ermete dtployee par ie chef de I'administration, aurait imman- " quablement conduit a une revolution dans cette province." La meme Gazette sur le meme sujet. '* Nousne rendrions pasjustice au petit nombre de fidMes etloyaux sujets desa '• Majestequi ont coinposi la minoiitc dans cette scene scandaieuse, si nous ne les " faisions pas connaitre a nos lecteurs." Extrait de la Gazitte irfficielle de Montre.tf, du 29 novembre 1827, vol. 4, n ° . 86. — Paragraphe editorial. En parlant d'unt assemble'e a Qurbec, au sujet du territoire en contestation, entre les EtatsUnis et le Nouveau-Brunswick, il prete i\ la chambre d'assembl^e les vues qu'il met a la charge de la dite assemblee tenue \ Quebec, celles de revo- lutionnerle pays : voici mot pour mot cet ecrit :— " Nous croyons pouvoir deviner I'objet de ceux qui ont convoque I'assembl^e '' de Quebec, et qui sont si zeles pour la dignitc' et les inttrets de la province. Si " nous ne nous trompons pas, ils s'unagine voir dans la position presente des "EtatsUnis, une occasion favorable pour I'execution de leur piojet fiivori. lis " imaginent que I'election du general Jackson a la presidence est certaine, et cal- " culetit d'aprt's cet evenement, qu'ils peuvent avoir I'assistance pour effectuer " leuis plans d independiuuni niilinniil'i, tl d iigfrrandissement personnel. La " probabilitc de cet eveuement pent uvulr aiuai iliHermine I'obstinaiion de la " chambre d'assemblce et avoir encouragte a persister dans son etrange resistance. " En alarmant le gouvernement britannique sur ce point, en continuant ses cla- " meurs et en omployant tons les lieux couununs d'oppression, de tyrannic, &c. " ils seflattentd attendrc plus aisement leur but, et d'arracher par la crainte, ce " qu'un sentiment do justice ne loin- concedrait jamais. Si teis sont les motifs " qui inspirent la conduite des digiiitaires de la nation canadienne, nous osons con- " jecturer qu'ils calculent mal Ic cours des ev^-nemens. Nous concevons a peine " la possibilite qu'il y a que Ic General reussissc, et encore moins qu'il ait I'idee " Strange de la conquc^te du Canada, et qu'il y a infiniment moins de probabilite " dans I'idee que le gouvernement britannique soit induit par de telles considera- " tions i\ t'aire aucuncs concessions autres que celles qui pourraientetre attribuees "a un sentiment de justice. Dans cecas les reclamations de I'assemblee doivent " toujours (I 78 " to yield any point, the concession of which could be attributed to anything " but a sense of justice. In such a case, the claims ot the Assembly must ever " be resisted, as neither justice, reason nor propriety, have any relation or con- " nexion with them." Extract from the Montreal Official Gazelle of the 29th November, 1827, in a Communication signed '• An Anglo Canadian :'* •» But our political declaimers and would be definers of the British Constitution, «' would have it understood that British Liberty is alone concentrated within " the walls of the House, which by its late measures has evinced itself to be " the Forum of Republicanism." Quebec Official Gazette, 13th December, 1827. In a Communication, signed C. D. E. ; speaking of the House of Assembly, and comparing it to Judas on the subject of the question respecting the Speaker:) " It has no palliative to attenuate the baseness of its treason" ••••*• and further " this obstinacy in evil, which sacrifices every thing to the accom- jilishment of criminal designs."* « • • • • »« If such a conduct on their part does not justify the charge I bring against them o( rebellion against the Mother (."ountry, and of treason ai^ainst their constituents, I do not understand those words, and according to me they have no longer any meaning." Quebec Official Gazette of: the 10th January 1828, vol.5. No. 11. (Editorial Paragraph.) " All the aggressions to be traced to the former, (speaking of the House of " Assembly,) " the late measures of the popular branch of the Legislature, are •• of that unequivocal description * * • • • • after so many years of gradual " assumption, of secret hostility and undermining, it is rather an improvement " in the method of aggression so long acted on by the factions and discontented, " to find that they now openly attack what before they covertly sought to " subvert." Montreal Official Gazette o^ the 51st January 1828, vol. 33.— No. G. (Editoiial Paragraph.) r Speaking of the meeting called for the 25th January 1828, at Montreal, for the clioice of agent*; ; this paragraph is too long to be copied at full length, it pre- oonts some rertarkable passages ; I extract a few : — " At the period of political excitement, when we perceive the object of a fac- '* tion which a long course of successful .imbition has urged to still morecxten- " ^ive projects than those at which they have hitherto aimed ; when wc see this " same faction endeavoring to excite and inflame the country into sedition, and ■' arranging preparations and prelimitiaries which might serve to be called into " treasonable exercise in times of open rebellion." ••*♦••«« in ti^jg Assembly •' of Deputies, we see the embryo of a National Convention-; we sec a meet- " of departmental Delegates from the different Scigneuries, and elected in no " constitutional form and for the purpose of treating of matters which are not " of trifling importance, or mere local improvements ; for their avowed objects " are to dictate to the Ikitish (Government to subvert the power of the Executive " * • • • The N.\TioN.vi. CoxvKNTioN, once met, will not easily dissolve itself " after 79 •' toujours etre refus^es n'etant fondees ni sur la justice, ni sur la raison, ni aur hi •' convenance.'' Eztrait de la Gazelle Officivlle de Montreal, du 29 novembre 1827. Communication signee " An Anglo Canadian." " Mais nos declamateurs politiques et soi-disans interprfites unic|ue de la constitu- " tion britannique.voudraientfaire entendre que la liberty anglaiseest concentrce " dans I'enceinte des murs de la chambre, qui par ccs dernicres mesures a prouve " qu'elle(^taitle forum du r^publicanisme." Gazelle officiellc de Quebec, 31 decembre 1827 — commuuicalion C. D. E. En parlant de la chambre d'assemblee, et la comparant ;\ Judas, (au sujet de I'affaire de I'orateur.) " Ellen'aaucun palliatif pour att^nuer la noirceur de sa " trahison" ****** plus loin il est dit • * * • • " cette obstination dans le mal, " qui sacrifie tout pour raccomplissement de ses desseins criminels." •»***• " Si line telle conduite de leurpart ne justifie pasraccusation que je porte con- " tr'eux de rcie/Z/ow envers la mere-patrie, et de Irahison enversleurs commettans, " je ne comprends rien h ces mots, et suivant moi, ils n'ontplus de signification." Gazelle officielle de Quebec, du 10 Janvier, torn. 5, n*. 11. (Pnragraphe Editorial.) " Toutes ics aggressions viennent de la premiere" (en parlant de la chambre d'assembU'c) * * » * • * »«]es mesures recentesde la branche populaire delal6gis- " lature sont de cette espece non equivoque" *•••**" apres plusieurs annees " d'impirtation graduelle, d'hostilit6 secrete et sourde, c'est plut6t une am^lio- •♦ ration dans le mode d'agression si long temps mis en usage par les factieux et " les mi-contens, que de voir qii'ils attaquent maintenant d'une mauiere ouverte *' ce que ci-devant ils essayaientde renverser sourdement." Gazelle qfficielle de Montreal du 21 Janvier 1828, vol. 34, n'" . 6. (Paragraphe editorial.) En parlant de I'assembloc convoquee pour le 25 Janvier 1828, h Montreal pour Ic choix des agens, ce niuiceau est trop long pour Hve copie en entier ; 11 offie des I)assages remarquables en voici quelques-uns ; " a cette epoque de trouble politi- " ques ou nousappcrcevons 1 objet d'une faction a qui une longue carricre d'am- " bitionheureuse a faitconcevoir des projets plus grands que ceux auxquels ello *' tendait jusqu'ici, ou nous voyons cette meme faction travailler ;\ soulever ou a " exciter ie pays a la siditiou, eta faire des pr(;paratifs dont on pourrait faire un " un usage criminal duns le cas de rebellion ouveite." «***•« Nous voyons " dans cette assemblce de disputes elenieiis r une convention nationale ; nous " voyons une assemhlee de d-legues do departcment dv.A differentes seigneuries, " ^lus dune manicre inconstitutionncllc, et pour traiter de raatiercs qui ne sont •' pas de legi'^re importance, ou relatives a des ameliorations paicment locales ; car •' son objetavouf': estde dieter au gouvernement britannique la subversion dupou- " voirde I'executif* » • • • * |a convention nationale une fois assemblte ne se '< dissoudra pas facilement, aprcis avoir nomme des agens, mais continuera ses de- '* liberations ! n 80 " after having named their agents ; but will continue its deliberations upon sub- " jects of more importance to the future peace and tranquiihty of this Province. «' New objects for their ambition will be pointed out, new plans adopted, new •' campaigns arranged, and new difficulties devised, to impede the Government of " the Province, and render nugatory the intentions of the Mother Country." Quebec lyjicial 6'aae/fe of the Slst January, 1828. (Editorial Paragraph.) «' The contents of the Resolutions forming the basis of the charges which " the Montreal faction intend to lay at the foot of the Throne and before the << Imperial Parliament, against His Excellency the Governor in Chief, have also •' reached us. These charges they are a mere tissue of falsehood and " calumnies engendered by the malice of the factious, which are victoriously an- '« swered by the contents of contrary addresses, signed, and not marked with the •' seal I of ignorance. » Exiractsfrom the Addresses to Lord Dalhousie, and his answers thereto : — Quebec Official Gazette of the lOth January 1828, vol. 5,— No. 11. Address from Thret -Rivers. In Speaking of the claims of the House of Assembly : — " That it is principally to the groundless pretensions and unparallelled usur- " pations on this subject, (meaning the I4th Geo. III. chap. 88,) the civi! mis- " eries of this Province are originally to be attributed ; and that unless speedily •• checked by the firm arm of the supreme authority of the Mother Country, we " may yet live to record and to lament transactions the most dangerous to the " welfare of our civd government and society, and scenes the most disgraceful " to virtuous and loyal citizens.' Answer. Among other things — " I acknowledge that you have spoken in them (the Resolutions) tiie language " of truth, with the boldness which becomes British subjects, when claiming " their rights.' Answer to the Quebec Mdress ■ Quebec Official (iazettc. The following words are there to be read : — " In resisting the encroachment of a faction." Answer to the Montreal Address, Quebec Official Gazette of the 10th January 1828. " In this Address you have traced most justly the mischievous tendency ot " the measures pursued, for past years, in the Provincial House of Assembly.'' •• When \ \ \ V I \ 8] «• liberations surdessujets d'line pins grande importance pour la paix et la tian- •• qiiiliitc' future de la province •. onmontrera de nouveaux objcts a son ambition, " on adoptera de nouveax plans, de nouvelles campagncs, et Ton cherchera a " Jeter de nouvelles ditticultts dans les niesures du couvernement de la province, •* et pour faire paraliser les intentions g^nereuses dela mtre-patrie." -patrie. Gazette offtcielle de Quebec, du3\ Janvier 1828. (Paragraplie <:ditorial.) " Le contenu des resolutions, base des accusations que la faction de Montreal •» se propose de mettic au pied du trone et devant le parlement imperial centre son "Excellence le goiivcrneur-enchef, nous est aussi parvenu. Ces accusations • • * ce nest qu'un tissu de faussetcs et de calomnies engendr^es par la ma- lice des factieux,qui sont victoriensement repoussies par le contenu des adresses contraires si^necs et non viarquees du sceau t de Tignorance." Exlraits dvs adresses au lord Dalliousie ct de ses reponse^. Gazette oflicielle de Quebec, 10 Janvier 1828, torn, 5, n°. 11. Ad/ esse des Trois-Rivieres. Kn parlant des pretentions de la chambre dassembk'c : — " Que c'est principalement a leurs pretentions sans fondement, et a leurs iisur- " pations sans cxcmple a cet ('gard fc'est-a-dire 14 (Jeo. III. chap. 88) que k;; " miilliGurscivils de cette jjrovincedoiventctre surtout attribues, el qn'amoinsqiie " I'autorite de la merc-patrie n'entervienne avec fermctc et j)roniptitude, nous " avons sujct d'appruhcnder de vi"re assez long-temps pour voir et regretter li's " evcnemens les ])lus funcstes au bien ctre de notie gouvernement et de notrc " societe civile, ctlcs scenes les plus douloureusespour ses ciloyens loyaux et ver- " tucux " Entr'autreschoscs- Jiepoiisc. " Jc reconnais que vous y avez parlc (dans les resolutions) le langage de la ve- " rite avec la hardiesse qui convient a des sujets biitanniques qui reclament leui!) " dioits." RC'ponsr a I adresse de Quebec. Qazctte officielle de Quebec. L'on y lit ces mots : — " Kn resistant aux cmpictations d'unc faction."* Rcpmise a I'adresse de JMonlreal. t Gazette officielle do Quebec, 10 Janvier 1828. " Dans cette adresse vous avez bien justcnicnt trace la tendance malfaisante drs " niesures que la Cliambrc d'assemblee provinciale, a poursuivic depuis nombre " d'annecs * 86 jiddress from Compton. Quebec Official Gazette, 21st February 1828. " A want of respect to your Excellency under the influence of a few factious men* shown by a party acting -and to declare our un- quahfied approbation of the firm and cemperate measures which your Excellency has pursued in resisting the attempts which have been made to eneroach on the the rights of the Crown llcsiding in a remote part of the Province, and virtually unrepresented in the Provincial Parliament, we have been forced to remain almost silent spectators of what has been passing in public affairs, till a faction has, by its violent proceedings and most unjustifiable conduct, de- veloped its views and principles, step by step We attribute the witholdingof our just and lawful rights to no other cause than the selfish views and narrow minded policy of a few persons wiio lead the majority of the Lower House. " We beg leave to assure your Excellency that all we have in our power, " may be relied upon in every exigency." Compton, Ist February 1828. Answer (by Mr. Secy. Cochran,) 8th February 1828. " I am directed, &c. that you will convey his thanks to the Inhabitants of the " Township of Compton, for the expression of their sentiments contained in their " address —and that you will assure them that His Excellency is much " gratified in finding that their loyal and constitutional feelings are so general and " so decided in that part of the Province.'* To A. D. Bostwick, Esq. Address from William Henry. Quebec Oflicial Gazette, 8th September 1828. " But wc should be wanting in the knowledge we have obtained of the political statj of the Province, were we to fail in attributing the existing difference to men, misled by private passions and views, and who with a waim desire for personal popularity and aggrandizement, subvert and satiate the minds of an uneducated people, by pretensions and assumptions not only inconsistent and in direct opposition to constitutional principles, but (what is of great import- ance) to the very happiness and prosperity of this promising appendage of the British Empire." SOth August 1828. Answer, " The sentiments now expressed from them, in approbation of my conduct in " this Government, are highly acceptable." 3d. September 1828. Address '■' I 87 Adresse de Compton. (Gazette officielle de Quebec, 21 fevrier 1828.) •• Le manque de respect qu'a montre a votre excellence un parti agissant ious " linfluencede qnelques lactieux" . . . . et pour declarer votrc pleine et entitle " approbation des mesures fermes et prudentcs que votre excellence a poursuivies, " pour repousser des desseins attentatoires aux droits de la couronne." .... •« Ri'sidant dans une partie cloigni^'e de la province, et repr^sent^s virtuclIcMent " dans le parlement Provincial, nous avons ete forces de demeurer presque spec- «' tateurs silencieux dc se qui s'est passed dans les affaires publiques, jusqu'au mo- " ment ou une faction a eu, par la violence dc ses proc(idc"s et I'injustice de sa con- " duite, decouvert par d6gn s ses vues et ses principes'' . . . . " Nous n'attri- " buons la privation oii nous sommes de nos droits justcs et l(!gitimes a d'autre '• cause qu'^ I'^goisme et a la politique dtroite d'un petit nonibre qui commandent " la majorite de la chambre basse." •• Nous prenons la liberty d'assurer votre excellence que dansle moment du bc- " soin, votre excellence peut compter sur toutce que nous posstdons." Compton, 1 Janvier, 1828. R<;ponse (par M. Cochran.) 8 fevrier, 1828. •' J'ai ordre"' " . . . de pr(!senter ses remercimens aux habitans " du township de Compton, pour les sentimens qu'ils ont exprimes dans cette " adresse" . . . . " et de les assurer que son Excellence est extr^mement flattee " de voir que Icurs sentimens et leurs dispositions loyales et constitutionnelles " sont si gtntraleset si marqu(^'es dans cette partie de la province." A G. D. Bostwick, ecuyer. Adresse de JVUUatn Henry. (Q«Ktte officielle, 8 septembre, \m^.) " Mais ce serait man(| aux connaissances que ntais avons acquises sur I'elat ii'Jitique de la proviiie^ le de ne p - attrib»erlc>; difticultcs qui existent i\ des livMiunes egan's par des pa sions et des vues interess6cs, ct qui dans leursoif de la popidaiite et (ians le di sir dc leur aggrandissement personnel, excitent et rempiissent les esf)rits d'un peuple j;nora'it, par des pretentions et des empicte- mcns non seulemc lit i\icompatibles et en opposition directe aux principes de la constitMtion, mais cc ^ui n'est pas de legcie importance, au bonhcur-meme et a la prospi rite de cette dependance fiorissante de I'empire britannique." 30aout, 1828. Reponse, " Jc re^ois avec Ic plus grand phtisir cette expression de leurs sentimens, en ap- '« probatio'. ' ma conduito dans I'aJministration de cegouvernenient." 3 septeiubre 1828. Adresse IMAGE EVALUATION TEST TARGET (MT-3) // K ■%- £■1 ^ 1.0 I.I 1.25 If 1^ niii£ ill: I- lAo 111112.0 U 11 1.6 ^^ % ''>> y -(^ Photographic Sciences Corporation 23 WEST MAIN STREET WEBSTER, N.Y. 14580 (716) 872-4503 %. «c mmi 84 in endeavouring to subvert the blessings of our constitution, by repeatedly frus- trating the Uberal views of your Excellency, for the improvement of the insti- tutions and good government of the Province : and by assuming rights not vested in them, attempting to set aside the authority of our beloved and most graciaus Sovereign, and the Imperial Parlement, over this portion of the British Empire. " Deeply as we deplore the attempts of the late Assembly, we have to felici- tate ourselves and the country, on the energy and wisdom which your Excel- lency has shewn, in supporting the just Prerogative of the Crown, by recently rejecting as Speaker of the present House of Assembly, a person whose public conduct rendered him unfit for that high office ; and we pledge our lives and properties to defend those rights which your Excellency has so ably and con- stitutionally supported." Jarjuary 8th, 1828. Answer (by Mr. Cochran, 27th February 1828.) " And I am to request that you will assure them, that His Excellency feels " much gratified by their approbation of the conduct of government during the " period of his Administration." To H. M. Blaiklock, Esq. Address from the Iffwnships efLochaber and Buckingham Quebec OflBcial Gazette, 21 st February 1828. " It is with deep regret mingled with indignation we contemplate the systematic " and continued opposition made to all your measures by a faction, who at once " arrogate to themselves the power of Legislation, and the rights of the Crown." We deprecate the attempts of these individuals, under the specious mask of patriotism, to excite discontent and distrust of ihe Justice of His Majesty's Government among a portion of the Canadians and we sincerely hope that their evil designs will soon recoil upon themselves with merited disgrace." " We a))plaud your Excellency for the firmness with which you have opposed their ambitious schemes." 11th February 1828. Answer (by Mr. Secretary Cochran, 18th February 1828.) Quebec OflScial Gazette, 28th February 1828. Among other things : " His Excellency requests that you will assure the Inhabitants of those Town* " ships, Uiathe feels highly gratified by this address." To Wm. M'Lean, Esq. Lochaber. Address 85 , hUe pour nous priver des avontages de notre constitution, en rendant inutlles ;Y plusieurs reprises las intentions iib^rales de voire excellence pour I'avancement des institutions el du bon gouvernement de cette province, et en s'arrogeant des droits qui ne lui appartiennent pas, s'eiFor5ant de mettre de c6t6 I'autorite de notre bifca-aim6 et tr^s-gracieux souverain et du parlement imperial, sur cette partie je I'empire britannique." " Nous d^plorons profondement les tentatives de la derniere assemblee ; nous avons k feliciter, et le pays en m^me terns, de I'^nergie et de la sagesse qu'a montrdes votre excellence en supportant la juste prerogative de la couconne, en reietant, comme orateur de la pr^sente chambre d assembl^e, une personne dont la conduite publique I'avait rendue incapable de remplir cette charge <;lev6e, et nou3 engageront notre vie et nos biens a defense des droits que votre excellence a si habUement et si constitulionnellenient raaintenus." Janvier, 8, 1828. R^ponse (par M. Cochran, 27 fevrier 1828.) " Et j'ai a vous prier de les assurer que son Excellence se sent tout^tl-fait ai?e de ' kur approbation, sur la conduite du gouvernement, durant son administration." A- H. Bl?lcklock, dcuyer. Adresse des townships de Lochebar et Buckingham. (Gazette Officielle de Quebec, 21 fevrier 1828.) «• C'est avec un regret profond mel6 d'indignation que nous voyons I'opposition ' systcmatique et 'continuelle pr^sent6 k toutes vos mesures par une faction qui s*arro\\h, be considered as empty ibrnis all who prefer a mixed government, administered upon British Constitutional principles, to the doc- trines of those who deceive the unthinking, by false pittensions, in order to promote their individual purposes." 14th August 1828. Answer. i " For myself I return the most grateful thanks for the open and steady siip- poit I have received from Montreal. The opinons entertained there, have given me confidence in my path : and with the sentiments which you now ex- press on my departure, I shall go forward, with the same firm purpose, unto the end and possessed of sucii testimonials as I carry with me from tlu enlightened and educated population of Canada." Address from the JMaffist rates and Inhabitants of the Town tf Three Rivers. Quebec Ofllcial Gazette, 8th September 1828. Your Excellency Las fought the good fight of the constitution - If you have not been able to preserve it from insult and inroad, your Ex- cellency has at least dcl'ended it from injury and destruction. Your Excellency has had to contend with the most powerful opponents in a free state, popular clamour, ignorance and prejudice" " the predominancy of which without that check, which your Excellency by a constitutional exercise of your powers, so resolutely and seasonably applied to it in this Province, has ever been fol- lowed by perpetual and irremediable anarciiy.' (The sequel to this address is tiic grossest flattery.) Answer w 1^ 89 Adresse des magistrals el habitans de Quebec. (Gazette oHicielle de Quebec, 8 septetnbre, 1828.) Fait allusion g^n^raleraent aux " difficult^s dans la legislature" et ajoute que son excellence ne pouvait acc^der aux pretensions de la chainbre d'assemblee. RIponse, ** Cette adresse renferme des sentimens exprim^s en termes aussi agr^ables qu'> " honorable a tnoi-meme, etjc la conserverai commela meilleure reponse i\ faire k " toiites ies calomnieset aux injures qui sont venues de quelques agitateurs, qui " m^ritent a peine qu'on y fasse attention." Adresse de Montr6al. (Gazette officielle de Quebec, 8 septembre 1828.) " La province est redevable k votre seigneurie, qn'une dissolution du gouver- •• nement, avec I'anarchie et Ies malheurs qui doivent en resulter, n'ait pas eu " lieu, ce quin'aurait pas manqufe deresulier des exc^s auxquels la branche po- pulaire s'est port6e pour amener de force I'accomplissement de sa volont^, sans s'embarrasser des maux qu'une pareille ligne de conduite aurait necessairement produit, si votre excellence, pour detourner I'orage n'avait" et I'assetn- blee en violation directe de la prerogative royale, persista dans le choix d'uii orateur, aprds que le repr^sentant du roi e(kt refus6 son approbation ; encore un pas de plus, et la prerogative royale de proroger, peut-ctre niise en question, et le concours du conseil legislatif, et I'assentiment raynle aux bills, consid^res comtne de vaines formalit^s" " quiconque pr^fere un gouvernement mixte, administre d'apr^s Ies principes constitutionnels d'Angleterre, aux doc- trines de ceux qui abusent une foule aveugle, par de faux pretextes pour arriver a leurs fins." 14aout, 1828. Reponse, " Pour moi je fais Ies remercimens Ies plus vifs en retour du support franc et •' et ferme que j'ai re9U de Montri^'al Ies opinions qu'on y entretientm'ont '* donne I'assurance dans la voie oil j'ai marche : et muni des sentimens dont vous " couronnez mon depart, je marcherai vers le but avec la meme fermet6 et en pos- '* session de temoignages semblables i\ ceux que j'emporte avec moi de la popula- " tion ^clair^e et instruite du Canada."' Adresse des magistrals et habitans de la villi des Irois Rivieres. (Gazette officielle, 8 septembre, 1828.) " Votre excellence a combattu pour la cause de la constitution."' Si " votre excellence n'a put la mettre a I'abri de Tinsulte et de I'empi^tement vo- " tre Excellence I'a au moins garantie de tout dommage et de la destruction." <« Votre excellence a eu i\ hitter contre Ies adversaires Ies puissans dans un etat li. " bre, Ies clameurspopulaires.l'ignoranceet Ies plus pr^juges" . . . . "dontlere- «♦ gne, sans la repression que votre excellence y a applique en cette province d'une •' mani^re si ferme et si h tems par lexercise constitutionnel de son pouvoir, a tou- « jours ^te accompagne d'une unarchie perpdtuelle et irremediable." Reponse, X ^ ^^*» ^ 90 h ! Answer. " The most flaiterin^ tribute of approbation from the Magistrates and Iniiabi- tants of the town of Three Rivers, would have been acceptable to me on any occasion, but it is infinitely more acceptable on the eve of my departure IVom this Country, in all probability forever. 1 have disregarded popular clamour, and the slander of wandering scribblers. My sense oi' duty has never been influenced by such common wea[)ons, and I leave them behind me as utterly inoffensive. 1 can leave no better record to guide tiie young to a close as honourable as this which you now testify to me. ' The Commiltee then took into consideration the several Extracts from the Pre- sentments of Grand Juries, which follo'ivs : [No. 1.] EXTRACT of the Presentment of the Grand Jury of the Court of Kings Bench Bench for the District of Montreal — filed 9th September 1826, The Grand Jury further present ; That the practice of bringing before the Court of King's Bench numerous indictments for inferior crimes, is attended with serious inconveniences. The practice embarasses the Court with more bu- siness that can well be dispatched notwithstandinqf the extension lately given lo the term, and the long and luborioas sessions which take place. There be- ing but two criminal terms of the Court of King's Bencli in each year, such of the accused who cannot have their trials during the first term, are obliged to remain a long space of time imprisoned waiting the next term ; so that they are frequently too severely punished by this long detention, even if guilty, and most unjustly so, if innocent. In either case they are thus exposed to all the bad ef- fects of idleness and of an involuntary confinement among dissolute and abandoned characters. [No. 2.] EXTRACT of the presentment of the Grand Jury of the Court of Oyer and Terminer, and General Gaol delivery ofMontreal — filed 31st August ld29. By a list of the Prisoners now in Gaol, various persons appear to he in con- finement who were committed previous to the sittings of the last court of Quar- ter Sessions, for offences cognizable by that court, but against whom no Bills of indictment have been preferred. In one instance in particular, the long im- prisonment which the accused party has undergone, appears to the Jury even more than adequate to the offence itself ; and the Grand Jury would respec- tively submit that a proper investigation into the cause of those delays in bring- ing Prisoners to trial, should be instituted. A large portion of the time of the Grand Jury having been occupied in the investigation of accusations for very trivial offences, it appears to them advisea- ble that some power should be vested in Magistrates by the Legislature simi- lar to those they possess in England for the summary punishment of small offences. [No. 3.] 91 R^ponse, ' " Ce tribut triis flatteiir d'approbation de la part des magistrals et des habitans " de la ville des Trols- Rivieres, in'aurait ^t6 agr^able en tout terns, mais ii I'est '• bien d'avautage sur le point de mon depart de ce pays, tres probableinent pour " n'y jamais revenir." " J'ai m^prise les clameurspopulairesetles injures " de scribes vagabonds." des armes aussi m^prisables ne m'ont jamais " d(''tourn6 de la voie que je croyais devoir suivre, et je les laisse derrifire moi, sans '• en redouter les atteintes." "Jenepuis laisser un meilleur example " k suivre pourla jeunesse h une fin aussi honorable, que celle dont vous me don> " nez aujourd'hui un tcmoingage siflatteur." Le Comile a alors proccde d prendre en consideration les divers cxtraits des reprc' sentatioiis des Grands-Jures, qui suivent : — [No. 1.] EXTRAIT de la representation di'. grand-jury de la cour du banc du roi pour le district de Montreal, lilee le Dseptembre 182G : — Le grand-jurc repr^sente de plus: Que I'usage oii I'onestd'amenerdevant la cour du banc du roi de nombreuses accusations pour des crimes d'un grade infe- rieur a donn€ lieu k beaucoupd'inconvdniens. Cette manifere de proc^der occupe lacouravec beaucoup plus d'affaires qu'elle n'enpeutexp^dierconvenablement, ma!gr(5 I'extensiou que Ton a derni^remer.t sccordii aux termes, et les sessions longues etlaborieuses qui ont eu lieu. Comme il n'y a que deux termes pour la cour crimineile du banc du roi, chaque ann^e, ceux des accuses auxquels on ne fait pas les proems durant le premier terme sont obliges de demeurer pendant un long espace de temps en prison, en attendant le terme prochain ; de sorte qu'ils sont fr^quemment trop sevferement punis par cette longue detention, lors meme qu'ils sont coupables et trts injustement lorsqu'ils sont innocens. Dans I'un ou I'autre cas iis sont de cette mani^re exposes a tous les mots que produi- sent la faineantise etiise voir d^itenus involontairement parnii des gens depraves et sans aucun caractere. [No. 2] EXTRAIT de la representation du grand-jur6de la cour d'oyer et terminer et de dciivrance generate des prisons pour Montreal, fil6e le 31 aout 1829 : — D'aprtis un tableau des prisonniers qui sont maintenant en prison, plusieurs personnes paraissL'nt y fitre detenues qui y avaient 6t6 envoy^es avant les seances de la deniiere cour des sessions de trimestre, pour des offenses dont cette cour pourrait prendre connaissance, mais contre lesquelles il n'a ^te present^ aucune accusation. Dans un cas particulier la longue detention que la partie accus^e a subi parait fitre au jur6 plus proportionn6e ^I'offense elle meme ; et le grand- juresoumet respectueusement la ndcessit6 qu'il y aurait d'enquerir des causes pourquoi on a retarde d'amener ces prisonniers fljugement. Une grandc portion du temps du grand-jur^a ^te employ^ dans I'examen d'ac- eusations pour des offenses bien triviales. II leur paraitraitiX propos que les ma- gistrats fussent revctus par la l<;gisiature de quelques pouvoirs semblables ;\ ceux qu'ils possMent en Angleterre pour la punilion sommaire des petites offenses. [No .3J T!!P Q2 a» [No. 3.] EXTRACT of the Presentment of the Grand Jury of the Court of King's Beach for the Districtof Montreal— tiled lOlh March 1830. The Grand Jury further present ; That during the present term a number - Bills of indictment have been laid before them for Petty offences, which mighi have been tried in the Quarter Sessions in the months of October and January- last. The Grand Jury further present, that several indictments have been laid be- fore them against the same individual fur offenses vhich, in theopinion of the Grand Jury, might have been embraced in one and the same indictment: but they are not aware nor do they give an opinion where the fault lays. [No. 4.] EXTRACTS of the Presentment of the Grand Jury of the Court of Quarter Sessions in the city of Montreal — filed the 30th April 1830. The Grand Jury have been retarded in their enquiries respecting the Bills of indictment laid before them by the defective attendance of witnesses, and have learned with regret that no money is allowed by His Majesty's Government to fiay witnesses attending on the part of the Crown. This is a great and public OSS, as it causes many cases to be brought before the Court of King's Bench that might ;ind should be tried before the Court of Quarter Sessions, which renders such trials more expensive to the public, and prolongs in many instances the confinement of persons committed for minor offences. The Grand Jury present this circumstance as an unnecessary infringement of the liberty of His Majesty's subjects, a waste and misapplication of the public money, and an unnecessary augmentation of the fees and emoluments of His Majestys Attor- ney General. [No. 5.] EXTRACT ofthe Presentment of the Gran J Jury of the Court of King's Benchfor the District of Quebec— filed 31st March 1828. In closing their labours, the Grand Jury notice with deep regret the intem- perate language used in the public Papers by both ofthe political parties, into which this otherwise happy country is divided ; and though acting under the obligations of their oaths, they have not hesitated in finding Bills for libel against the Printer of a News-paper published in this district, they have no less con- cern in stating that the general conduct of other papers published and circulat- ed in this district and entertaining other political opinions, is, in many cases equally mischievous and deserving public reprobation. I N. N.] T ^m »r w 93 [No. S.] EXTRAIT de la representation du corps des grands-jur^s de la cour du banc du roi pour le district de Montreal, fil^e le 10 mars IbSO : — Le8grand8-jur<''8 repr^sentent en outre, que durant le present terme un nom- bred'actes d'accusations a et6 mis devant eux pour despetitis ott'ensesqui aU- raient pu etre jug^es devant les sessions de trimestre dans les mois d'octobre et de Janvier dernier. Le grand-jur6 repr^sente de plus, que plusieurs accusations ont H€ mi«es de" vant euxcontre le mfime individu pour des offenses, qui, dans I'opinion du grand' jur6 auraient pu fitre incorpor^es dans une seule et m€me accusation, mais ils ne peuvent dire et ils ^mettent non plus aucune opinion quant ^ la cause d'oiii vient ce mal. [No. 4.] EXTRAIT d'une representation du grand-jur6 de la cour des sessions de trimes- tre dans la cit6de Montreal, fil^e leSO avril 1830:— Le grand jiir^ a eprouv6 du retard dans ses enqufites h regard des actes d'ac- cusations qvileuront 6l6soumis, par le d^faut de comparution det^moins, etil apprend avec regret quele gouvernement de Sa Majesty n'accorde aucunsdeniers pour defrayer les t^moins somm^s de la part de la couronne. Ceci estune grande perte pour le public, en ce que plusieurs affaires sont anoen^s devant la cour du banc du roi, qui pourraient et devraient fitre amen6es devant la cour des sessions de trimestre, ce qui est cause que ces procfes coutent plus defrais au public et prolon^e dans bien des cas la detention des personnes qui sont renferm^es pour des offenses l^gires. L'i grand-juri represente cette circonstance comme ^tant une violation non n^cessaire de la liberty des sujets de Sa Majest^, occasionnant un mauvais emploi et la dissipation des deniers publics, et un moyen d'augmenter sans n^cessit^ les honoraires et les emolumens du procureur-gen^ral de Sa Ma- jest^. [No. 5.] EXTRAIT de la representation du grand-jure de la cour du banc du roi, pour le le district de Quebec, fil^e le 31 mars 1828 :— En termlnant ces travaux le grand-juri remarque avec un profond regret le langage violent qu'ont employ^, dans les papiers publics. Tun et I'autre parti politique, qui divisent ce pays d'ailleurs si heureux ; et, quoiqu'agissant sous robligation de son serment, il n'ait pas hisitfi k trouver bills pour libelles centre I'impr'.meur dun papier-nouvelle de ce district, il n'est pas moins touche en de- clara'itque laconduiteg^n^rale des autres papiers publics et en circulation dans le di irict, et entretenant des opinions politiques differentes, est, en plusieurs insf inces, egalement nuisible et digne de la reprobation publique. [N.^f.] 94. 'ii Diftria ofl Monireal. J APPENDIX. [N. M.] Henry Crebajsa, Esquire rexiding in the Borough of William Henry, having beer duly jwcrn upon the Holy Evangelifts, depoieth and laith { that he he filled the situation of Return ing Officer at the Eleftion which was held in the said Borough, in the month ot July, one thou- »and eight hundred and twenty ie*en, in order to elect a Representative for the said Bo- rough in the Provincial Parliament. That deponent, in his capacity as Returning Officer a» aforesaid, administered oaths to the persons named, Antoine AufTant^ Antoine Hus dit Cour- noyer, Nicholas Duckner, Francois Vandal, Jean Baptiste Cantara, and others, before receiving their votes at the Election. That at the time the said above mentioned persona offered them- selves to give their votes, James Stuart, Esquire, one of the Candidates, objected to their ad- admilTion, as not receivable, for want of qualification on their part. That the said James Stuart requested Deponent, to explain to the said above named persons their want of qualification, and the consequences to which they would expose themselves by taking the oath required in luch cases i which Deponent declined to do, conceiving that his duty did not require him (o do more than to administer the said oath. That the said James Stuart, thereupon explained to the above named persons, as much as the opposition made to it by the opposing Candidate and his par- tisans would permit, their want of the right of voting, and likewise made known to them the punidiment to which they would expose themselves by taking a false oath ; but that the said James Stuart, on none of the said occaf ions, when the said above named persons or any other persons whatsoever took the aforesa'd '■ath, or at any other time during the said Election, to the knowledge of Deponent, neither sa..' r gave to understand that he, in his quality of Attorney General had alone the right of prosecuting such persons as rendered themselves guilty of per- jury ; nor that those who fhould vote agamfl him would be prosecuted, whilft those who voted for him had nothing to fear. Deponent further saith that he has no knowledge that, during the course ofthefaid £le£lion similar expreHioni, or any expreflions to which such a sense could be given, were uttered or made use of by the said James Stuart. That it appeared to Deponent tiiat the said James Stuart by what he said to the said above named persons, on the occasion of their taking the oaths they did, at the said Election, meant to put them on their guard by ap- prising them of the penalties to which they would expose themselves by taking false oaths, and not any thing elfe ; whilst the opposing Candidate, insisted on their right to take the oath and to vote, encouraged them to do so, and said to several of them, and particularly to the said AufTant and Buckner, that he would guarantee them againfl all evil consequences, if they insisted upon taking the oath. Sworn at } APPENDIX [O. 0.] Tariff by the Executive Council for the Clerks of the Peace. Deposition, . . - Warrant and Recognizance, Examination of Prisoner, Drawing an Indictment, Proceedings before Petit Jury, Original Subpoena, Copy, . - . . Bench Warrant, Precept to the Sheriff, do 5 11 6 8 4 8 Certified, GREEN & PERRAULT, Quebec, 2 jth February, 1831. Clerks of the Peace. 95 Dlftrict Montreal I- J APPENDICE [N. N.] pour le dit bourg dana le Parlement Priviiicial. Que le depofant en fa qualitf d'Officier Rap- porteur comme fusdit, i fait preter lerment au nommfis Antoine Auflant, Antoine Hus die Cournoyer, Nichola. 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In purfuant of a Report of a Committee of the whole Executive Council, approved bjr His Excellency the Governor in Chief, I am (Jirefted by His lixcellency to recomnend to you, to bind over in future, and commit for trial at the next ensuing Quarter Seflioni, all persons who Ihall be hereafter duly charged before you, with any, or either of the following offences s — Id. Misdemeanors and oSencej, below the digree of Felony and cognizable in the Courts of Quarter Seffions •Jd. Petty Larcenies, tid. Simple Larcenies, where the value stolen is under five pounds. And also to bind over or commit for trial all persons duly charged with greater offences to the next enduing SedJoDs of the Court of King's Bench, if you deem it right »o to do, I transmit you herewith for your further information, copy of the opinion of the Law Officers of the Crown, fhewing the several offences which come within the above descriptions. I am further directed by His Excellency to recommend to you to put all persons who (hall be examined before you as witnesses under recognizance for their appearance at the Court at which the culprit is to be tried, and for their attendance there from day to day until difcharged, and to put under n.cognizance in like manner all other persons whom the culprit fhall point out as wiineffe* efl'ential to his defence. And I am also to desire that you will explain to each witnefs the nature of his recognizance, and make (".im underfland that lie is to attend, in person in Court on the day mentioned in his recog- nizance, and to continue in Court from aay to day until he is authorized by the Court to leave it, on pain of forfeiting the penalty of his recognizance, and you are at the same time to in- form buch witness that no other notice by Subpicrw or otherwise will be given to him to at- tend. I am further to desire that you will transmit all depositions, examinations and recognizances taken before you, to the (.:lerk of the Peace, or to the Cleik of the Crown, (as the case may re- quire,) as soon after the commitment of every culprit for trial or bail given and if his appeaiance, maybe practicab e. I have the honor to be, Sir, Your moft obedient Servant, (Signed,) A. W. COCHRAN. Clerks of the Peace, Quebec. Extraft of a Letter from the Attorney General to A. W. Cochran, Esquire, Civil Secretary* dated Uth July, 1822 :— «' In answer to your letter of the 28th June, requiring my opinion as to the several offences coming within the defcription of : — I ft. Misdemeanors or offences below the degree of Felony and cognizable in the Courts of Quarter Sellions J 2d. Petty Larcenies } 3d. Simple Larcenies where the value stolen is under the value of five pounds. I have the honor to inform you for the information of His Excellency the Governor in Chief that the jurisdiction of th;; Court of General Quarter Sellions by M Ed. .'J. Chap. 1, extends to the trying and determining all Felonies and Tresspasses. This power docs not extend to the trial Circulaire. J 03 APPENDIC£ CQ. . The recommendation contnincd in the circular letter in (]ueftion on thefo as well as on the other points adverted to in that communication, His Excellency desires maybe ftriOly acted upon, but h'j has at the same time dircckd me to observe to you, that as it is the duty of the Clerk ' \ A J > 105 Ccpendant ce pouvoir ne s'etend pas a faire le proces des personnel accus«te pro- secutor to institute and carry them on himself, with such professional assistance as he nu"glit choose to employ. This course I have adopted in other cases where charges of perjury have been made, and shoidd not have departed from it on the occusion referred to. With respect to any delay that has occurred in bringing these prosecutions to u conclusion, it has been unavoidable, and it has in no degree depended on me to prevent it. If required, a satisfactory statement to this effect will be fur- nished. ., I (Signed,) Quebec, !26th February, 18^9- J. STUART. APPENDIX. [T. T.] Observations on a Petition of Alphroy Nelson and Louis Marcoux, dated 30tli January, lb29. Joseph Qaprood, of whom mention is made in this Petition, at the time the last Election was held at William Henry, was notoriously destitute of any quali- fication to entitle him to vote at that Election. He inhabited a miserable hovel liardly fit for the reception of cattle, much less for tlie habitation of human beings, and this hovel, consisting of one small apartment, in which there was a Forge, and which was also used as his dwelling, had been built by him on ground be- longing ' > 109 prouver Iciir innocence, rn incrinninant le grand-jury qui If i* as en accusation, ft en arrctantio cours dc la justice. C'est une grande pr^^'noinf inn qnele grand- jury a (ait son devoir, qvi.ind on consid^r-.i (jiie le j .oe«^s tt lii conviction du Cluprood ont proiiV(i ([u'il avait et<; justemtnt mis en accusation • etc'cstiin tics actes d'accusation (juW rejet(;sle grnnd-jury de 18'i7, sur ies m<^nies tenioi- gungcB 8U»' losqucls (taient bas^ea sa nilso en accuMtion etsa conviction subsd- queiites. .?c Ruis netusc dans cette petition d'avoir ngi avec partiality'-, en nu poursuivant pas pour nurjurc Ics |)crsonnes qui avaicnt voti'; pour rr.o\, taiidisqui) j ai poursuivi cclles qui avaiont vot6 centre inoi. II ni'est parvenu par la voie du bureau dc police quclqucs depositions, accusant dc parjure dos personnos qui avaicnt vot6 pour nioi, niais les personnes qui avaicnt fait oes d^ijositions ne m ont jamais demandc a proc6der dans ccs poursuites, ni ne mont donn6 nucune rx|jli« tution pourmel'aire croire quo les pretendus jjurjures avaicnt ct6 coniinis. Quel- qucs-unes dc ccs accisiitions n'ltaicnt fondeos que sur Ic tumoiijnnge dune seule personne tandis qu'il faut le K'nioignage dc deux personnes pour asseoirune poursuite pour parjure ; et ces depositions venaient toutts de personnes d'uno classe tres rabaisscc dans ' « socitU-, ct n'ayant rien pour repondredes consequen- ces de telk's accusations. Pour contirmer le soin avec lequtl il etait de mon de- voir d'agir a IVgarddc ces accusations, j'ai trouvt6 batie par lui sur no longing to liis uncle, one Labrie, with materials partly furnished by the lattor, who, iroin motives of charity, permitted him to occupy this hovel, but on the ex- press couQition that he should be removed from it if his uncle should be dissatis- fied with his conduct ; in fact his occupation of it was that of a tenant by 8uf> ferance, and no person of common decency in life, except Claproo.', would on any terms have made it a place of abode. This description of Claprood's pre- tended property was given by the witnesses examined on his trial for perjury in September last, and it was most manifest by the evidence then given, that he had not the shadow of a pretext for falsely swearing to a qualification to vote. Any extenuation of his conduct could only be found in the alledged weakness of his understanding, and in the importunity he experienced to induce him to vote, which importunity, there is no reason to doubt proceeded from the two Petition- ers named in this Petition, viz: Alphroy Nelson and Louis Marcoux, but princi- pally from the latter. These men have the hardihood to assert in their Petition that he was assured by one of His Majesty's Ciown Officers, and two Magistrates, that he ha'' a right to \ Jte: under the description of Crown Officer, it is to be pre- sumed ..lat 1 air referred to. This assertion is of a piece with the other barefaced falsehoods proceeding from the same source. I never saw the man till he was brought up to vote at the close of the Election, never spoke to him in my life, and never expressed any opinion as to his right of voting. On his trial for per- jury, one ot the two Miigistrates referred to, Col. Jones, swore that on an oFc"* of Claprood's vote, he had himself assured him that he had no right to vote. "With respect to the forfeiture of Claprood's recognizance, it was estreated in the ordinary course of Justice, together with other recognizances forfeited in the same Session. There i.' no reason to doubt that Claprood was put out of the way to enable him to escape the consequence of his perjury ; he was induced to absent himself by going into the States, and in order to account for his not ap- pearing on his recognizance, it was at the time studiously given out that he was drowned. When he came back afterwards, he did not return to William Henry, the place of his abode, but found his way into a parish at a distance from that place, where he was arrested. One of the Petitioners, Marcoux, was the most ac- tive Partisan of Mr. Nelson at the Election, and now stands indicted for subor- nation of perjury in having falsely procured the charge of perjury to be made against one ot the voters at the Election. He brought up to the Husting3 for the pur|Ose of voting, all or nearly all the persons against whom Indictments for per- jury have been found, for having falsely swoin to a qualification to enable them to vote for Mr. Nelson, and ht was mainly instru.niental in inducing them to take the oath. (Signed,) J. STUART. Quebec, S6th Februc.y, 1829. APPENDIX. [U. u.] .Montreal, i To wit : ( The Jurors for Our Lord the King upon i heir oath present, that heretofore, to wit, on the twenty fifth day of July in the eighth year of the Ilcign of our 1 Sovereign wm 1 .^ I 111 siir un terrain appartenant k son oncle, un nomir.^ Labrie, avec des mat6riaux en !)artie fournis parce dernier, quiipar charit(^-, liii avait permis d'occuper cette ca- uite, mais sous la condition expiesse qu'elle en seraitenlev^e si son oncle n'^tait pas satisfait de sa conduite. En rdalite i'occupation qii'il en avait dt-^it ce' .e dun possesseur par soiiffrance, etpersonne, autre que Ciuprood, sans avoir perdu tout sentiment de d^cence commune, n'aurait voulu en f'aire son habitation. Cette description de la pretendue propriete de Claprood fut donn6 par les t^moins in- terrog^s pendant son proems pour parjure, dans le mois de Septenibre dernier, et il parut ^videmment par les temoigna<»-es qui furent alors donnes, qu'il n'avaitpas mi^me I'ombre d'un pretexte pour jurer faussement qu'il ^tait quaiifie ii voter. Sa conduite ne peut fitreexcust'ejusqu';\ un certain point que paria faiblesseal- Ii^gue de son esprit, et par i'importunit^ avec laquelle on I'a press6 de vott^r, la- quelle importunitd est venue, a n'en pas douter, des deux petitionnaires d^nom- in6s dans cette petition, savoir : — Alphroy Nelson et Louis Marcoux, mais sur- toutdu dernier. Ces hommes ont le front d'avancer dans leur petition qu'un des officiers de la couronne .'e Sa Majest6 et deux Magistrats I'avait assure qu'il avait dioit de voter : II ist ;\ prcsumer que par officierdela couronne, c'est h nioi 3UC I'on fait allusion. Get avanc6 sert de pendant aux autres mensonges impu- ens qui sortent de la m()me source Je n'avais jamais vu I'homme avant qu'il se presenta pour voter i\ la cloture de Selection, je ne lui ai jamais parle de ma vie, et n'ai jamais cmis d'opinion sur le droit qu'il avait de voter. Lors de son pro- c^s par parjure, un des deux ii;agistrats auxqnels on fait allusion, le Col. Jones, jura que sur I'ofire du vote de Clapiood, il avait lui mc^me declare, qu'il n'avait pas le droit de voter. Quant au cautionnementdonne pour la comparution de Claprood, la peine pe- cuniaiie qui en est result<'' a et6 impos(?e dans le cours ordinaire delajustice, de memeque tons les cautionnemensqui ont ete forfaits dans la nii^me session. II u'y a aucun lieu de douter qu'on a fiiit t vader Claprood pour lui faire eviter les con- .s^quences de son parjure ; on l'.iinduit k sabsenter en allant duns les Etats Unis, et pour rcndre compte de son dcfaut de comparution dapres son cautionnement, on cheicha dans 1(3 temps ;\ repandre le bruit qu'il s'^4ait noy6. Lorsciu'il revint ensuite, il nc rctourna pas ;\ William Henry, le lieu de sa rtisidencc, mais il se ren- dit dans une paroisse (l^loign^e de I'endroit ou il avait 6ti arret '•. Un des petition- naires, Marcoux, fut un des partisans les plusactifsde M. Nelson, lorsde I'elec- tion, et est maintenant sous accusation de subornation de parjure, en ayant faus- sement fait accuser de parjure un des voteursde cette election. II amena aux /jmj- (ings pour les faire voter, tousou presque tons ceux qui o:\t tti- mis en accusation pour parjure, pour avoir jure faussement etre qualifies, pour les faire voter en fa- venr de M. Nelson, et c'est lui qui a le plus contnbue i leur faire prcter le ser- inent. (Signd.) J. STUART. Qudbec 26 F(5vrier. 18'i9. APPENUICE. [U. u.] Montreal Savoir Les tent. ,es jures pour notre Touverain iScigneur le Roi sous lour scrment repn-scn- , Que ci-devanl, savoir, le vingtcinquiimc jour dc juillet dans la huitiiime an- T 112 Sovereign Lord George the Fourth by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland King, Defender of the Faith, at the Borough of William Henry, in the Parish of St. Peter of Sorel in the County of Richelieu in the Distri"! ot Montreal, an Election of one Burgess of the said Borough to repre- sent the said Borough in the Assembly of this Province, to be holden at the City of Quebec, on the twenty fifth day of August then next ensuing was duly had and held by virtue of a certain writ of election, of our said Sovereign Lord the King before then duly issued and directed to the Returning Officer of the said Borougli under and in pursuance of a certain instrument of oiu- said Sovereii[;n Lord the King, under the Great Seal of this Province, bearing date at the Castle of Saint Lewis in the City of Quebec the fifth day of July in the year of our Lord, one thousand eight hundred and twe.ity seven, for summoning and calling together an .assembly ia and for this Province, at which said Election .lames Stuart and Wol- i'red Nelson were candidates to represent the said Borough as such Burgess as aforesaid in the said Assembly, and a Poll for taking the votes of the Electors of the said Borough ,'o: the purpose of electing such Burgess as aforesaid, wa;; then and there duly granted and lield, and while the said Election was had and held as aforesaid, afterwards to wit, on the thirteenth day of.Iuly in the eighth year afore- said, to which said last mentioned day the said Poll, had been and was duly ad- journed, Antoine Aussant, late of the Parish of St. Peterof Sorel in the County and district aforesaid, Vcoman, appeared as a Freeholder at the said Election and Pull, whereupon the said James Stuart, being one of the said Candidates as aforesaid, then and there demanded and required that the said Antoine Aussant before he shoidd be admitted to vote at the said Election for a Burgess to represent the said Borough in the said Assembly, should take the oath number four prescribed in and by a certain Act of the Parliament of the Prov-.ice of Lower Canada, made and passed in the fifth year of the Reign of our said 'Sovereign Lord George the Fourth, entituled " an Act to repeal certain Acts therein mentioned and tocon^so- •' liept, et dans la huiti^me annce susdite, a I'eft'et de convoquer et d'appeler ensemble une assemblte dans et pour la dite Province, a laquelle dite election James Stuart et Wolfred Nelson <;taient candidats pour reprcsenter le dit Bourg, a I'etlet d'elire un bourgeois comme susdit dans la dite assemblee, et la et alors il fiit duement accordi; et tenu im Poll. Et durant que la dite tlectior. se tenait lu et alors comme susdit, ensuite, savoir : le trenti^me jour dejuiilet, dans lahuitieme annee susdite, auquel jour dernicrement mentionnc le dit Poll avait ^le et etait duement ajourn(^, le dit Antoine Aussant parut comme franc-tenancicr a la dite election et au dit Poll, savoir : au Bourg de JVit/inm Henri/ susdit, et reclama le droit de voter comme franc-tenancier a la dite Election et au dit Poll. Sur quoi le dit James Stuart ^tant I'undes dits candidats comme susdit, la et alors demandaet exigea que le dit Antoine Aussant fut tenu, avant d'etre admis h voter ;i la dite election pour un bourgeois a Teffet de representer le dit Bourg dans la dite assem- blee de preter le serment num(^ro quatre prescrit en vertu etiiar uii certain acte du parlcment de cette Province, fait et passe dans la cinquieme annee du regne de notre dit Souverain Seigneur George Quatre, intitule " acte pour abroger cer- " tains actes y mentionnes, et pour reunir en un seul acte les lois concernant I'e- " lection des membres pour servir dans servir dans I'asseiiiblee de cette Province, " et les devoirs des ofticiers-rapporteurs, et pour d'autres objets "' ct contenu dans la cMule annexee au dit acte. Et les jurc's susdits sous leur serment susdit re- presentent en outre que sur cele dit Antoine Aussant ;\ IMection et au Poll sus- dits, fut lii ct alors rcquis et interpeli;* par Henry Crebassa, ecuyer, officier-rap- porteur pour le dit Bourg de IVilluini iiiewT/ de prilter le dit serment numert> quatre avant dctre admis a voter comme franc-tenancier k ia dite election, et pourdonner au dit Antoine Aussant le droit de voter comme tel fianc-tenancier et le dit Antoine Aussant fut en maniere l^^galc la et alors assermente sur les Saints Evangiles, et la etalorsprcta le serment numero quatredevantlui le dit Hen- ry Crebassa ^tant la et alors ofticier-rapporteur pour le dit Bourg, lui le dit Henry Crebassa, ayant la et alors les pouvoirs et une autorite suffisante et competente d'administrer a cet egard le dit serment mentionne en dernier lieu au dit Antoi- ne Aussant, et les jur^-s susdits sous leur serment susdit repr^sentent en outre que le ui. r-' / 118' saiil, do further present that the said Antoiiie Aijesant being so sworn as aforesaid not having the fear of God before his eyes, but being moved and seduced hy the instigation of the Devil, and not regarduigtiie laws of this Province, nor the puins and penalties therein contiiincd, but meaning and intending to pervert the due course of Election of ]Mend)ers to serve in the Asseml)ly of this Province, and to cause and procure the said Wolfred Nelson one of the Candidates aforesaid to be wrongfully elected and chosen at the s lid last mentioned I'.lection to represent the said IJoiough of William Henry in the said Assembly of this Province, did then and there, lowit, on the said thirtieth day of July, in the eighth year aforesaid at the Boron.;]) of William Henry aforesaid, in the Parish aforesaid, in the County afor, said, in the District albi^saiil, upon and in tiiC oath afbresaii, so administered to and taken by him as aforesaid, and before he was admitted to vote at tlie said Election, falsely, wickedly, maliciously, imlawfully, and corruptly de])ose and swear, among other things, \n substance a^ follows, that is to say, that he the said Antoine Anssant was really and bona fide proprietor and possessed for his own j)roi)er use benefit and behoof, in virtue of a legal title, of a lot of ground and dwelling House tl:ereon, within the limits of the said Borough of Wil'L.i. Henry, adjoining on one side to one Vandal and on the other to ungianted land, which said last mentioned lot of groinid and dwelling House, so belonging to him the said Antoine Aussant, was thou of the yearly value of five pounds sterling, that is to say, five pounds eleven shillings and one penny faithing (uriency, or nmre, over and abov,; all lents and charges payable out of or in respect of the same, and that the sai i Antoine Aussant had been in the actual passession theieof, or of the re- ceipt of the rents and profits theri of for his own use, for six calendar months and upwards, immediately preceding the said Election, or that the same came to him the sai I Antoine Aussant, by descent or inheritance, marriage, contract of marriage or by devise, and that the said lot of ground and dwelling House, had not been granted or made over to hin) the said Ancoinc Aussant, fiadidently, or on purpose to. qualify him the said Antoine Aussant to vote at any I'dection, and that he the said Antoine Aussant, had not already voted at the saitl I'^lection ; And the Itnors aforesaid upon their oath aforesaid do fiu'lher present, that the said An'oine Aus- .sant so meaning and intending as aforesaid after he the said Antoine Atissatit had been so sworn and had taken tlie said oath as last aforesaid, did at the said Election, to wit, on the same day and year last afor, said at the Borough of William Heiiiy aforesaid, in the Parish aforesaid, in the County aforesaid, in the District afore- said, Poll and give his vote for the said Wolfred Nelson ; Whereas in truth and in fact the said Antoine Aussant, was not at the time of taking the said oath and swearing as aforesaid really or hondjide jiroprietor, and possesseil for his own pro- j)er use, benefit, or behoof in virtue of a legal title, of the said last mentionect lot of ground and dwelling House thereon, within the limits of the said Borough of William Henry, adjoining on one side to one Van(h\l and on the other to ungranted land ; And whereas in truth and in fact the said Ant' due Aussant was iu)t, at the time of taking the said oath and swearing as aforesaid really or Imitd fide propria tor, and po*olits d'icenx pour son jjrojire usage pendant six mois de calendrier et au dela imnied atement avant la dite ('lection, ou (|u'iceux appartenaient au dit Anto'iu Aussant pour les avoir eut jiar succession oi heritage par mariage, contra de mariage ou j)ar legs, et que le dit lot de terre et maison n'avaient pas (t(- concedes ou transpute au dit Auto ne Aussant frauduleusenient ou pour lui donne droit de voter a au- cune ('lection, ct que lui le dit Antoine Aussant n'avait p;>s dija vol'' a iadite (flec- tion ; ct les juressusdits sous leurserment susdit repn'sentent de plus; que le dit Antoine Aussant avec le dessein et I'inteniion cunme susdit ; apres que lui le dit Antoine Aussant cut t'ti'' ainsi asserment' et eut pn'tele scrment tel que mentionnf^ en dernier lieu, a la dite (lection, savoir : les meme jour et an que snsdits au liourg de J!'i/li>im //(•«/?/ sus;lit, en la dite paroisse siisditc, dans le comte susdit dans le disttict susdit, vota et donna son vote pour le dit WolfVed Nelson, lors- que vtiuitablement etde fait Ic dit Antoine Aussant n'etait pas a lYpoque de la pre-tation du dit scrment ctdciclaration sous scrment comme susdit reellemcntou de bonne f'oi pro|)ri(taire, en possession pour son propre usage b;'n('fice ou avan- tage en vertu d'un titre K^gal du dit lot de terre mentionne en dernier lieu etde la maison bjtic sur icelui dans les limites du dit Uourg dj IViltiam Ueinij, Joi- gnant d'lni c(')t('' a un nomme Vandal ct de I'autre aux tcrres nonconcidees ; et lorsque viritablement et de fait le dit Antoine Aussant n'etait pas a I't-poque de la prestation du dit serment ct de la dtjclaration sous scrment comme susdit n'el- lement ou de bonne fii propritjtaire et en possession pour son propre usage bi'n.-- fice ou avantage en VLrtu d'nn t fro l(5ga! d'un lot de terre et maison dessus cons- truitc, dans les limites du ditPourg de JVillidm Henry, de la valeurannuelie de cinq livres sterling, c'cst-a dire : cinq livres onze chelinsun deuier et un quart courant, ou plus, en sus de toutes rentes et charges payabl(\s sur ou a l'('gar(l d'iceux ; et lorsque vi-ritablement et, de fait ledit Antoine Aussant n'etait pas ;\ I'epoquo de la prestation du dit serment mentionne en dernier lieu et du serment susdit, reellement ou de bonne foi proprietaire et en possession pour son propre usage h(:ni:\S e ou avantage eu vertu d'un titre K'gal d'aucun lot de terre quelconque et maison dessus construite, dans les limites du dit Bourg de ff'illiam Henri/, et lorsque veritablement et de fait le dit Antoine Aussant n'avait pas (te en pos- session actiielle du dit lot de terre, et maison sur icelui, joignant d'un cote a un noinnie 120 If ling House thereon adjoining on one aide to one Vandal and on the other to un- granted land, or of the receipt of the rents and profitH thereof, for his own use for six calendar months and upwards immediately preceding the said Election, nor had the said last mentioned lot of ground and dwelling House thereon come to him the said Antoine Aussant by descent or inheritance, marriage, contract of marriage or by devise ; And whereas in truth and in fact the said Antoine Aussant had not been in the actual possession of a lot of ground and dwelling House thereon, within the limits of the said Borough of William Henry of the yearly value of rive pounds sterling, that is to say, rive pounds eleven shil- lings and one penny farthing currency, or more, over and above all rents and charges payable out of or in respect of the same, or of the receipts of the rents and profits thereof for his own use.forsixcalendarmonthsand upwards immediately pre- ceding the said Election, norhadanysuchlastmentionedlotofgroundand dwelling House thereon come to him the said Antoine Aussant, by descent or inheritance, marriage, contract of mariiage or by devise : And whereas in truth and in f.ictthe said Antoine Aussant had not been in the actual possession of any lot of ground and dwelling House thereon whatever, with the limits of the said Borough of William Henry, or of the receipt of the rents and profits thereof for his own use lor six calendar months and upwards immediately preceding the said Election, nor had such last tnentioned lot of ground and dwelling House thereon come to him the said Antoine Aussant by descent or inheritance, marriage, contract of marriage or by devise ; And so the Jurors aforesaid, upon their oath aforesaid, do say, that the said Antoine Aussant, on the said thirtieth day of July in the eighth year aforesaid, at tlie Borough of William Henry aforesaid, in the Parish afore- said, in the County aforesaid, in the District aforesaid, at the Election had and held as aforesaid, before the said Henry Crebassa Returning Officer as aforesaid, then and there having competent power and authority to administer the said last mentioned oaih to the said Antoine Aussant, in that behalf, by his own act and consent in manner and form aforesaid, upon his said last mentioned oalh, falsely, wickedly, wilfully, maliciously and corruptly, did conmiit wilful and corrupt Perjury, to the great displeasure of Almighty God, to the evil example of all others in the like case offending, against the form of the Statute in such case made and provided, and against the Peace cf our said Lord the King his Crown and Dignity. (Signed) (Signed) Jno. Delisle, Ck. O. & T. & Gl. Dy. A true Copy, Jno. Delisle, Ck. Cr. J. STUART. AUorney General. 121 \ nomm6 Vandal, ct de I'autre i\ des terres non conc6d^es, ou de la recette des rentes ct profits d'icelui, pour son propre usage pendant six mois de calendrier ct au deli\ immediatemcnt avant la dite election, et que le dit lot de terre der- iiicrement mentionn^ et la maition sur icelui n'etait pas nonplus avenus au (lit Antoine Aussant par succession ou heritage, par mariage, par contrat dc mariage ou par legs ; et lorsque v^ritablement et de fait le dit An> toine Aussant n'avait pas (t6 en possession r('elle d'un lot de terre et mai- son sur icelui, dans Ics iimites du dit Bourg de Wilitam Henry, de la valeur an- nuelle de cinq livrcs sterling, c'est-i\-dire, cinq livres onze chelins un denier et un quart coiirant, ou plus, en sus de toutes ventes et charges payables sur ou a I'lgard d'icelui, ou de la recette des rentes et profits d'icelui, pendant six mois cic calendi'ier ct au-dela immediatcment avant la dite election, et qu'aucun tel lot de terre et maison sur I'icelui tel que dernierement mentionne n'6taient pas non plus avenus au dit Antoine Aussant par succession ou heritage, par mariage, contiat de mariage ou legs: et lorsque v<''ritablement et de fait le dit Antoine Aussant n'avait pas I'te itcllement en possession d'aucun Int de terre quelconque, et maison sur icelui dans les Iimites du dit Bourg de WitUum Henry, ou de la recette des rentes et profits d'icelui pour son propre usage pendant six mois de calendvicrct au-dela immcdiatement avant la dite election, et que de mfme au- cun tel lot de terre ct maison sur icelui, tel que mentionnd en dernier lieu n'e- taient pas avenus au dit Antoine Aussant par succession on ht'ritage, par mari- age, contrat de mariage ou par legs. Et en const'quence les jur6s sus dit sous leurserment susdit disent que le dit Antoine Aussant,ledittrenti^mejourde Juillet, danslahuiticme ann(^e susdit, au Bourg de William Henry susdit, dans la paroisse sus- ditc, dans le Comte susdit, dans le District susdit, a I'election qui eut lieu et fut tenue comme susdit devantle dit Henry Crebassa, Ofticier Rapporteur, comme susdit, \k et alors ayant I'autoriti- comp<^tente et le pouvoir d'administrer le dit serment men- tionne en dernier lieu au dit Antoine Aussant a cet ^gard, par son propre fait et consentement en la mani^re et forme susdites, sous son serment mentionn6 en dernier lieu, a faussement, mechamment, malicieusement et par corruption com- mis un parjiirc volontaire et corrompu, au grand deplaisir du Tout- Puissant, au mauvais exemple de tons autre contrevenans en pareil cas,contre la forme duStatut faitet pourvu en tel cas, et contre la paix de notre dit Seigneur le Rot, Sa Cou- ronne et Sa Dignity. \ (Sign6) J. STUART. Procureur-G6ndraI. Jno. Delise, GrcflHei', O. & T. De. Term. Jno. Delisle, Greffier Cr. ^ . 12« APPENDIX [V. v.] COURT OF KING'S BENCH MONTREAL. MarcliTcrm, 1830. No. 1. — The King agst. Louis Martel. Indictment fur obtaining Goodi* under false pretences. Filed 1st March, 1830, i'lca (Juiity. Witnesses Paschal Dubue, Pierre Auger. — A true Bill. Thomas A. Tuhner, Foreman, No. 2. — The King agst. Jean Bte. Blondin. Indictment for Larceny. — Filed 1st March, 1830. Arraigned plea not guilty ; trial for -id inst. — Verdic guilty. Witnesses — Pierre Cafetain, Leon Barre. — A true Bill. (Signed) TiiuMAs TuuNKii, Foreman. No. 8. — The King vs. Michel Blais otherwise called Michel Perry, and Jean Marie Turgoon, otherwise called Jean M. IJcrjardins. Indictment for stealing a Mare.— Fih>d 2d March 1830.- PI eu not guilty.— ith tried— Verdict Michel HIais guilty and J. M. Tiirgeon not guilty. Witnesses— Ignace Jiasson, Jarvis M'Cumber, Joseph Thompson. — A true Uill. (Signed,) Tiios. A. TuiiNKH, Foreman. No. 9. — The King agst. Michel Blais otherwise called Michel Perry and Jean Marie Turgcon, otliurwisc called Jtan M. Desjardins. Indictment for stealing a Gelding. Filed ?d March, IsliO.-— Plea ii>)t guilty. 1st. Sopt notguilty. Witnesses — Ignacc Cjiasson, Thomas Sacowhahctso, Joseph 'riiompsou. — A true Bill. (Signed,) Tnos. A. Tuuneii, Foreman. No. 10. — The King agst. Jolin Burbage. Indictment for an attempt to stc.il certain goods and chattels of our Lord the King. — Filed 2nd March, 1831.— Plea not guilty. Witnesses — K.L. Ilaydcn, S. Tliompioi), '!'. Coslin, Jos. Dusany. — A true Bill. (Signed,) Tiios. A. Tuusi ii, Foreman. \V IVo. IL— The King agst. Pierre Gucrtin and Timotlu'e Guertin. Indict- ment for Larceny. — Filed 2iul March, 18.'>0. Plea not guilty. -5th March Pierre Gucrtin tried Verdict not guilty. Witnesses— Randal M'Donald, Guy Richards. — A true Bill. (Signed) Tiios, A. Tuiinkr, Foreman. No 123 APPENDICE [V. v.] COUR DU BANC DU ROI MONTREAL. Termo dc Mars, 1830. No. 1.— Lo Roi contrc Louis Martcl. Accusation potir avoir obtciiu ilcs eftetssous ile faux pn'tcxtes, fil(fc 1 Mars ISjjO. — Plaide coupablc. TLtnoins — Pasciial Dubue, Pierre Auger. — Vrai Bill. (Signc',) Tiios. A. Tukneu, PrfJsidcnt. No. 2. — Le Roi conlre .lean Btc. Blondin. Accusation pour La rein. — Fiit-e 1 Mars 18;50. Accusi; plaidc non coupablc.- Proci^s pour '^comant. — Verdict coupablo. Tcmoins— Pierre Cafctain, Leon Barre. — Vrai Bill. • , ' • ■ (SigniJ.) Tiios. A. TuiivEH, Prijsident. No. 8.— Lc Roi vs. Michel Blais autrement nomnic Michel Perry, et Jean Marie Turgcon, autrement n(;mm6 Jean M. Disjardins. Accusation pour vol dune jumcMt. — Fiice Q Mars 18.10. Plaidi' non coupablc. 5 procc... Verdict Michel I'lais coupablc ct .1. M. Turgc^on non coupablc. 'lYnioins -Ignace JiasBon, Jarvis M'Cuinbcr, Joseph ThiHnpson. — Vrai Bill. (Signc.) Tiios. A. Tuuner, Pr<;sidcnt. No. 9 — Le Roi contre Michel Blais, autrement nomm^ Michel Perry, et Jean Marie Tiirgcoii, autrv.nent nomnn' Jean M. Dssjani ins. ——Accusation pour voldechcval. Filoe '2 Mars 18.30. Piaidi^ non coiipable. 1 Sept. non coupablo. Tit.ioins— Ignace Giasson, Thomas Sacowhahctsio, Joseph Thompson. — Vraic Bill. (Signi^,) Tiios. A. Tuiineu, President. No. 10. — Lc Roi contre John Burbage. /^ccus.atiou pour attentat de vol de certains efllls uppailcnant a r.otie Seigneur L* Koi. Filte "J Mars 18'JO. Plaide non coupablo. Tanoins — E. L. Ilaydcn, S. Thon^'json, T. Goslin, Joseph Dusany.— Vrai Bill. (SignO Tiios. A, Tuuneh, President. No. 1 1.— Le Roi contre Pierre Guertin et Timothee Gucrtin, Accusation pour Larcin, Filie 2 Mars ISiiO. I'laidfi non coupablc. 5 Mars procts lit! Pierre Gucrtin. Verdict non coupablo. Temoins— Randal M'Donald, Guy Hicha:Js. Vrai Bill. (Sign(:',) Tiios. A. Turner, President. No» 124 No. 14. — The King vs. Noel Bertrand Indictment for Larceny. — Filed 2nd March— Plea not guilty, 27th August. Witnesses— Andr6 Morin, Jean Bte. Piquet, Honor DuW, Pierre Aimont. — A true Tiill. (S%ned) Thos. a. Turner, Foreman. ^y No. 27. - The Xing agst. Francis Fournel. Indictment for uttering coun- terfeit money.— Filed 3d March.— Plea not guilty 4th March— trial 6th March, 31st. il!igust, verdict guilty. Wit-iesses — Jean Bte. Sicard, • Leprohon, Ambroise Letter^. — A true Bill. (Signed,) Thos. A. Turner, Foreman. No. 28. — The King vs. Francois Fournel Indictment for uttering Counter- feit money. — Filed 3d March — Plea not guilty 4th Ma.ch — Trial 6th March. Wttnesses — Jean Baptiste Sicard, Le^i-ohon, Ambroise Letter^. —A true Bill. (Signed) Thos. A. Turner, Foreman. No. 29. — The King vs. Frangois Fournel— —Indictment for uttering courder- feit money. — Filed 3d March — Plea not guilty 4th March — Trial 6th March. Witnesses — Jean Bte. Sicard, Leprohon, Ambroise Lettor-'. — A true Bill. (Signed) Thos. A. Turner, Foreman. No. 35.~.The King agst. David Codey Indictment for Larceny — J'iled 4th March — P'oanot guilty— trial 5th March — 28th August Verdict guilty. Witnesses- Joseph Jerome dit Latour, Asa Goodenough, Catherine Handeriri. A true Bill. (Signed,) Thos. A. Turner, Foreman. No. 16.— The King vs. Joseph Champagne otherwise called Joseph Godere. Indictment for Sheep Stealing— Filed 2d March— Plea guilty. Witnesses — Alber Bigonisse dit Beaucaire, James Jefferies, Marie Robert, liu- bert Desmarais. — A true Bill. (Signed) Thos. A. Turner, Foreman. No. 15.— The King vs. Joseph Ciiampagije otherwise called Joseph Godere. Indictment for Sheep Stealing.— Filed 2nd March— Plea guilty. Witnesses— Albert Begonisse dit Beaucaire, James Jefferies, Hubert Desma- rais. — A true Bill. (Signed,) Thos. A. Turner. Foreman. No. WiF^PH^i 125 No. 14.— Le Roi vs. Noel Bertrand. Accusation pour Larcin. Fil6e 2 Mars. Plaui^ non coupable. Temoins— Andre Morin, Jean Bte. P'quet, Honore Dube', Pierre A mont Vrai Bi!). (Sign.5) Thos. a. Turner, President. No. 27.— Le Roi contre f'ran9ois Fournel. Accusation pour a/oir fait passer de faux argent. Fil^e 3 Mars. Plaide non coupable 4 Mars. Proems 6 Mars. 31 Aout, Verdict coupable. pr.ioins— Jean Bapte. Sicard, Leprohon, Ambroise Lettore. Vrai Bill. (Signe,) Thos. A. Turner, President. No. 28.— Le Roi v.s.Fran9ois Fournel. Accusation pour avoir fait passer de faux argent. Fil^e 3 Mars. Plaid6 non coupable 4> Mars. Proces 6 Mars. Temoins— Jean Bap. Sicard, Leprohon, Ambroise Lettor^. Vrai Bill. (Signe) Tho. a. Turner, President, No. 29.--Le Roi vs. Francois Fournel. Accusation pour avoir fait oasser de faux argent. Filee 3 Mars, Plaide non coupable, 4 Mai s. Proces 6 Mars. Temoins— Jean Bte. Sicard, Leprohon, Ambroise Lettore. Vrai Bill (Signe,) Thos. A. Turner, President. No. 35.~Le Roi contre David Codey. Accusation pour Larcin, accuse Plaid6 non coupable. Proces le 5 Mars— 28 Aoftt.— Verdict coupable. Temoins— Joseph J. romeditLatour, Asia Goodenough, Catherine Handerin Vrai Bill. (Signt"'.) Thos. A. Turner, President. No. 16 — Le Roi vs. Josoph Champagne autrement nomme Joseph Godere Accusation pour vol de moutons. Fil^e 2 Mars 1830. Plaid^ coupable. T^moins—Alber Begonissc, Beaucaire, James JefFeries .Marie Robert. Hubert Desmarais. Vrai Bill. (Signe,) Thos. A. Turner, President. No. J5..-.LeRoi vs. Joseph Champagne autrement appeld Joseph Godere Accusation pour vol de moutons. Fili^-e 2 Mars. Plai le coupable. ,r Temoins- AiLert Begonisse dit Beaucaire, Jar^os Jefferies, Hubert Desmarais. Vrai iiill. (Sign6,) Thos. A. Turner, President. No. li 126 No. 7. — The King agst. William Brock Indictment for an Aassault ami Battery. — Filed 6th March. Witness— Patrick M'Intyre.— No Bill. (Signed; Thomas. A. Tuuneu, Foreman. No. 9. — The King agst. Pierre Millet and Pierre Lachance. Indictment for Larceny. — 10th March. Witnesses— William Molson, Antoine Guyot, Peter Renels. Ignoramus. (Signed,) Tiios. A. Tuener, Foreman. APPENDIX. f [X. X.) N6. 5fi00. li^th March, 1822. Donation, (entrevij's) by Fran9ois Gazaille dit St. Germain „nd Charlotte .\i.> nedier his wife, to Fran9ois Gazaille dit St. Germain, Junr. (.'3ril Co{)y.} TllANSLATION. Before the un'Iers'gned Notaries Public /or tiie Province of Lower Canada, residing in tiie I iuict of Montreal : Cano ami apjioarcHl Fraii9ois Gnzaillo ilit St. Germain, proprietor and cultiva- Un (ju)talili; culHv(ilcin-) residing in the .St-igniory of'Sorcl, and Dame Ciiarlotte MLMieclier, his wife, wiilow, bv her first m.irriagv^ with tiie late Matthew Buckley, and aulliorizcd by her second husband for the purposes of these presents. Wlio, by these presents have voluntariully declared and acknowledged, that they lure iimde a donatioii, puic, simple and irrevocal)le, in lifetime, {entrc vij's,) Irom lieiice forward and for over, and liuve proniiscdand do hereby {)roniise, jointly and se\er;iily. to give, guar.intced to be Iree fiom ail impediments, gifts, dowers, debts, r.iorlgagps, or other Iiinde;ance geni rally whatsoever, unto Francois (ia- zaille, dit St. Germain, their son, new of age, dealer, rcsidin;.; in the parish of St. Denis, now present, and accepting Uonatce for himself, his heirs and assigns, in future, to wit: the followiiig household liirniturc, aniniais and other moveables, viz: two feather-beds, with their bedding, a sirigle iron stove of three feet, with its pipes, another single siovc and p pes, a largo lookingglas^ . a small lookinglass, two cliaiis, a chest of drawers painted yellow, half a do/en of silver table spoons, apair or silver sugar tongs, a large two pail kettle, anotherditto of one and a half and cover, a cast iion tea-kettle, a pair of andirons, a fire shovel and tongs, three brass candlesticks, two iron hooped ])ml.s, two trains anci their shafts, two carts and their wheels, a<;rey horse, a red cow, .i complete set of harness, and generally all the other moveables that may be found to belong to them at the time of their death. The 127 No. 7.— Le Roi centre William Brock.— Fil^e 6 Mars. Temoins— Patrick M'lntyre. Ignoramus. -Accusation pour assaut et batterie. (Signe,) Tiios. A. Turner, President. No. 9— Le Roi centre Pierre Millet et Pierre Lachance. Accusation pour Larcin. Filee 10 Mars. '^ T^noins— William Molson, Antoine Guyot, Peter Renels. Ignoramus. (SigUL-,) Thos. a. Turner, President. No. 5600.] APPENDICE [X. X.] 15 Mars 1822. Donation Entur-vifs parFrati9ois Gazaille dit fJaint-Germain et Charlotte Me- necher, safemn,e, a Fran9ois (Jazaiile dit St.-Germain, fils :— 3e. Expedition. V. devant les notaircs publics, pour la province du Bas-Canada, soussin'u^s r^- sidens dans le district dc Montrt a! : ° Furent presens, Francois Gazaille dit St. Germain, notable, cultivateur, n'si- dent en la seigneurie de Sorcl, ct Dame Charlotte INfciieclier, sa fcmme, veuve en premieres noces de feu Mathieu Burkley, de son second niari authorisee h Teffet des pn'sentes. Lesqucis ont volontairement recoimus ct confesses par ces presentes avoir fliit donation I \ simple et irrevocabli! entrcvifs, dcs nuiinlcnant et ii tonjoiirs, et ont prumis ct promottent sous la voio solidairc et p:arantie de tons troubles, taut douaires, duties, hypotlitques et autres cmpcclicmens gcncialementquelconques, a Fran9ois Gazaille dit St. (iermain, leur liis majeur, marcliand, resident en la paroisse de Sauit-Denis, ])rLsent ct acccptant donataire pour lui, seshoirs et ayant cause ;i I'avenn-, savoir : Les meubles de menagcs ct auimaux qui suivcnt:- -deux Iits dc plumes avcc leurs draps ct couvcrturc;, uu poi'l de t'er simi)le de trois pieds etsoutuyeau, un autre poc'l simple et tuycau, un grand miroir, un petit miroir, deuxdiaises touruces, un bureau peint en jaunc, iine denu'e-douzaine do cuil- leresasoupcs d'argent, une paiie dc pince u llir d'argcnt, un grand chaudron dc deux sceaux, un autre ditto dun demi-scoati ct couvcrcb, un canard dc fonte, une paire de clicnest dc fer, une pelle ct pince a feiix, trois cnandelliers de cui- vre, deux sceaux iercs, deux traines ct travailles, deux charettes et leurs roux, uncheval souspodegiis, une vache sons poile rouge, un harnais complet, et gcniJralemcnt tous les autres meubles de mcnages qui se trouveront leurs apparte- nir ^^■wppwpf 12S The immoveable property given consists in an emplacement (lot") situated in the Borough of William Henry, in the parish and Seigniony of Sorel, fronting Queen street, containing sixty feet, more or less, in front, by seventy-feet five, more or less, in depth, bounded in front by the said street, with a house and bakery built tliereon, adjoining above to the property of John Shulers or his heirs, and be- low to that of Joseph Scliultz. Also another lot (emplacement) No. 1 11, situated in the Borough of William Henry and Seigniory of Sorel, containing sixty-six feet in front, by one hundred and thirty-two feet in depth, reaching in front to south Prince's street, and in depth to No. 14G, on onu side above in P;evost street, and on the other to No. 110, belonging to the widow and heirs Coiirnoyer. with a house, stable, bhed and oven built thereon. Also another lot (emplace- ment) situated in the said Borough of William Henry and Seigniory of Sorcl, being Xo. l-lG, containing sixty-six feet in fmnt, by one hundred and thirty-two feet in dept, extending in front to Prevost street, and in depth on one side, to No. 11.">, on one side, .lean Baptiste Paul Hus, on the other side to No. 1 10 and 111 ; without any building erected thereon. Also and finally a land of two acres in front, being part of No. 4,'i, situated in the Seigniory of Sorel, by twenty acres, more or less, in depth, bounded in front to the north by the rivulet Rimhault, and in depth, on l side above by the acres belonging to the heirs Buckley, and on the other to t ■ " .'laine, without any buildiug erected thereon ; such as tin; said moveables, a. -, emplacements, lands and buildings exist and appear, which the said donates ocltires that he well knows and is satisfied therewith; the whole belonging to the donatois, by due right, as possessing concessionaries by deed of Mr. .Jean Marie Mondelet, Notary of the year and date therein speci- fied ; copy of which titks have been by the said donators put into the hands of the said donatec their son, which he hereby acknowledges. The present donation is made under condition of perfjrming and paying the several Seigniorai dues and services due by the holders of the said lands, under their concess on deeds, free and exempt from all arrears of rent, and loi/s etvcnies, bygone, until Martinmas next. Moreover the present donation is made upon con- dition th;it the said donatee Francois (ia/aille dit St. Germain, shall, and which he, by these presents promises and obliges himself to perform, in acquittance of the lionators, pny at their death, to wit, to Marguerite Buckley, wife of Louis Roy, one hundred and forty-four livres of twenty sols; to Ade'aide Buckley, ■wife of Levi Allen, the sum of one hundred and forty four livres of twenty sols; to Pierre Ga/ailie dit St. Germain, the siun ofunc hundretl and forty-fbur livres of twenty sols each ; to Jean Baptiste CJazaille dit St. Germain, eighteen livres of twenty sols, and finally to Joseph Gazaille dit St. (icimain, eighteen livres of twenty sols ; which sums being paid to the before named j)arties, shall be in s ;tis- faction of all and every claim they may have against the estate and effects of the said Donators. Moreover the said present donation is made to the said Donatee \)pon condition that he shall, as he hereby promises and oblige- himself to i\o; \oAzc, board, keep in firing and light, and otherwise maintain the said Donators, bis Father and Mother, along with himself and the same as himself; and shall and will perform and shew the duties, care and respect which a dutiful child owes to bis father and mother, and to provide them with those comforts of which they may stand in need, both in heath and in sickness, as also to procure for them when necessary, medical aid, and that of thi- priest ; and further, also, upon their death to cause them to be interred in a decent manner in the ccmetry appro' ri- ated for the faithful, and masses to be said for each on the days of their obsequies and on the first anniversaries thereof And in case of incompatability of disposi- tion between the Donators and the Donatee, the said Donatee is held to provide a room properly heated and in good order, for the accommodation of the Dona- tors, either in his own house, or in those of the children of the Donators, namely, Jean iw ■p z-' f fl /^ ■V r r-— 129 nils ail jour et hciires de leiirs d(''ces, Les iinmeiibles doniies consistent en im emplacement sitiir danslebourg de William-Henry, paroisse et scigiieurie de So- rel. Tiontant rue de la Heine ou Queen-Street, contenant soixante pieds plus on moins de front, siir la profbndeur de soixante-et-quinze pieds plus on mnins, te- nant devant i\ la dite rue, avec une maison et boulangerie dessus coiisti nite, tenant en haut a Jean Shuters ou heritiers Ferguson, d'autre cote en bas h .Joseph Slioultz. Item un autre emplacement, n9 111, sitae dans le bourg de William- Henry, seigneurie de Sorel, de la contenance de soixante-six pieds de front sur cent tren(e-deux pieds de profondciir, pronant en devanture a Soutli Prince Street, rue Sud-du-Prince, en profbndeur i\ n 9 146, d'un cote en haut a rue Prevost, d'autre c()te ;\ n ^. 110, appaitenanta la veuve et h^'ritiers Cournoyer, avec mai- son, Stable, hangard et four dessus construits. Item, un autre emplacement situc- audit bourg de William-Henry, .seigneurie susdite, etaiit n '^ 14G, contenant de soixante-six pieds de front sur cent trente-deux pieds de profondeur, tenant devant ;i Prevost Street, en profondeur h n°. 145, d'un cote A n°. 11.7, Jeati- Bte. Paul Hus, d'antres cote iin°. ] 10 et 111, sans aucune batisse dessus con- struite. Item, etfinalement une terre de deux arpens de front, faisant partie du 11 °. 43, sise en lasc'gneurie de Sorel, sur vingt arpens plusou moins de profon- deur, prenant par devant au nord au ruisscau Ilimbault, en profondeur a ter- les conci'd{!'es, d'un cote en haut a I'arpcnt appartenant aux heritiers Buckley, d'autre cote i\ un DichaJne, sans batisse dessus construite; telle et ainsi que Ls dits meuhles, animaux, emplacemens, terres et batimens se poursuivent et comporte, que 1p dit donataire declare bien conna!trc, et du tout en est sutisfait et content: le tout appartenant aux donateurs ;\ juste titre de concessions, pas- se par Mtre. Jean-Marie Mondelet, notairc, an et date y contenu, copie desqucis titles les donateurs ont remis au dit donataire, leur fils, dont quitte. Cctte presente donation, ainsi faite A la charge des droits et devoirs seigneu- riaux, telle qu'enoncd aux actes de concessionnaires d'icelai terrains, quitte et iiette de tous arr^'-rages de rentes, lods-et-ventes du pass;'', jusqu'il la Saint-Martin procliaine. En outre cette presente donation fdte a la charge jiarle dit dona- taire Fran9ois Gazaillc dit Saint-Germain, comme il prometet soblige debailler et payer a I'acquit des donateurs a leurs deces, savoir : de payer a Marguerite Bucklevi femme de Louis Hoi, cent qnarante-quatro livres dc vingt sols ; de payer a Adelaide Buckley, femme de Lvvi Alin, la somme de cent quarante- quatre livres de vingt sols ; de payer a Pierre Gazaille dit Saint-Germain, la som- me decent quarante-quatre livres de vingt sols ; de payer a. lean- Baptiste Ga- zaille dit Saint-Germain, dixhuit livres de vingt sols ; etenfin, de payer a Joseph Gazaille dit Saint-Germain, dix huit livres de vingt sols. Lesquels sommes ainsi payes an ci-dessus nomm(f's, sera pour toutcs pretentions qu'ils pourroiit reclamer dans la succession des donateurs. En outre la dite presente donation, ainsi faite A charges par le dit donataire, comme il promet et soblige de loger, nourrir, cl:aufter, ('•clairer etentretenir les dits donateurs, .son p^re ct sa mere, avec lui et comme lui, d'avoir pour cux les egards, soins et respects quun enfant sonmis doit avoir cnvers un pere et une mere, et de leurs procurer les douceurs ce done ils auront besoin en santce ct maladie, et de leurs procurer les secours du pretrc et chirurgien quand requis, comme aussi sera temis de les faire iuhumcr d6cemment dans le cimctiere parmis les fideles, avec chacun un service le jour dc leurs obs^ques, <;t chacun un service au bout de Pan de leurs deces. Et au cas d*incompatibilit(^' d'liumcur entre les donateurs et donataire, aux dit cas le dit do- nataire sera tenu de donner une chambre entretenue chaude et en bonne ordie aux dits donateurs, soit dans sa maison on cliez ses enfans, Jean -Baptiste, Jo- seph ou Pierre Gazaille dit Saint-Gerraain : comme aussi de leur livrer la pen- sion viag^re qui deviendra payable du moment de leurs separation, les articles de jiension suivantes, douze piastres d'Espagne pour payement de leurs menues be- soins — -"— t- • *^ ISO Jean Baptiste, Joseph or Pierre Gazaille dit St. Germain, as also to deliver to them, from the moment of their separation, an alimentary allowance, which shafl consist of the ibllowing articles, viz : twelve Spanish dollars to defray small ex- penses, every year, together with four bushels of wheat, good and merchantable j two hundred pounds of good pork; one hundred pounds of good beef; half a bushel of salt, half a pound of pepper, eight pounds of green tea, one hundred pounds of maple sugar ; twelve pounds of twist tobacco ; six pounds of candles j twelve pounds of soap; ton gallons of rum , two gallons red wine ; and also to provide the said Donators a complete suit of clothes of cloth from the store, from head to foot, and equally to provide the said Donatrix, his mother, with a com- plete suit of clothing from head to foot, according to their situation in life. And on the deaths of either of the Donators, the alimentary allowance and annual provi- sion shall be reduced to one half, except as regards tiring and light. And for assurance and guarrantec that the engagements, clauses and conditions contained in the present donation, shall be fulfilled, the said Donator by these presents doth aft'ect, bind and hypothecate in favor of the said Donators, and until their decease, his property, moveable and immoveable, and especially and by preference that which has by these presents been given unto him, as lease holders, (bailleurs de Jonds). And for the accomplishment of all that is before written, the said Donators have transferred to the said Donatee, his heirs, &c. all their rights of property which they have, or could claim to have, upon any thing which is hereby given ; desiring that he may peaceably enjoy the same, and dispose thceof as to him may seem good, in virtue of these presents. And in order to give effect to these pre- sents, whenever it may be requisite, the said parties have constituted as their attornies the bearers hereof, to whom they give jjower to do so, and to demand a record thereof. For thus, &c. promising, &c. obliging, Ike. renouncing, Sec- Done and passed at William Henry, at the residence of the Donators, in the year one thousand eight hundred and twenty-two, on the fifteenth day of March, in the afternoon. And the said Donator having declared that he could not write, being tliereunto required, made his usual mark, and his wife, together with the said Donatee, and us the Notaries, (these presents being read) have signed these presents. Thus signed to the minutes thereof, Fkaxcois Gazaille dit St. Germain X ClIAULOTTE MeXECLIER, ' FuANCois Gazaille dit St. Geumaix, Junu. GoE. Holland, Not. Pub. And by the undersigned, who retains tlie original thereof in his office. 1822, HY. CREBASSA^ N. P. APPENDIX. f'^'ir~''''VM .^ - ^».--^- ' ,-.. '■i "■ 131 soins cliaque ann^e, ct vingt-quatre minots de ble loyal etmarchand, deux cent livres de bon lard, cent livres de bon ba-uf, un demi-niinot de sel, une demie- liviede poivre, liuit livres de the vert, cent livres de sucre du pays, douze li- vres de tabac ;i f'limer eu torquette, six livres de chandelles, douze livres de sa- voii, dixgalonsderum, deux galons de vin rouge, de fourn.r au dit donateurs imliabillementcomplet de draps du magasin, de piedsencaps, et pareillement de livrer a la donatrice, sa mere, un habillement complet de pieds en caps, sui- vantlemetat. Et au de'cfis d'undes donateurs la pension et entretien deminuera de nioitie, excepter la chandelle et chaufiflige. Et pour siiretee et garantie de I'ac- complissement des charges, clauses et conditions mentionncs en cette presentc donation, le dit donataire a par ces presentes afitecte, oblige et hypotheque eu faveur des donateurs jusqu'a leurs deces, ses biens, meubles et immeubles, et par preference speciale ce que dessus donnes comme bailleurs de fonds, Et au moyende tout ce que dessus, les dits donateurs ont transporte au dit donataire, ses hoirs, etc., tons droits de propriete qu'ils ontet peuvent avoir deinander ou j)retendre surce que dessus donnes, voulant qu'ils en jouissent paisiblement et en disposent comme il avisera bon etre en verui des presentes. fc:tpour f'aire in- siuiier ces presentes partout ou besoin sera, les ditcs parties ont constituees leur procureur le porteur auquel ils donnent pouvoirs de ce faire et d'en requ^rir acte : Car ainsl, etc., promettant, etc., obligeant, etc., renoncant, etc.. Fait et pass6 a William-Henry, demeure des donateurs, I'an mil-huit-cent-vingt-deux, le quin- ziemejourdcmars, apres-midi. Le dit donateur a declarer ne savoir signer, de ce en qui a fait sa marque ordinaire et i\ sou epouse : Signe avec le dit donataire et nous notaires, ^^lecture faite,) ainsi signe a ia minute de.s presentes. FUAN901S Gazaille ditSr.-GERiiAiN, )A Charlotte Mexeclieh, rRAN90is Gazaille dit St.-Ger.uaix, fils, Geo. Holland, N. P. Et du soussigne qui en retient la minute, en son grefte. 1822. Hy. CREBASSA, N. P. I I APPENDICE *• V, /K \ .^■2 III No. 61^7. APFKNDIX. [Y. v] 21 St Augasl 1824. Donation (tntrtvifs) by Antoine Aussant ct Augeliijuo Ricard to Aiulre- AuKsant. 2d Copy. — Thanslatiox. Before the undersigned Notarips Public fur the Province of Lower-Canada, resiciing one in the borough of William Henry, and the other in the parisli of Berthier, district of Montreal. Came and appeared Antoine Aussant, proprietor and cultivator, (notable cultivateur) residing in the seigniory of Sorel, and Angelique llieard, his wife, dulv authorized by him for the purposes of these presents. who, desiring to se.ure a maintenance to themselves for the rest of their lives,and to bestowat the same time a mark of affection upon Antoine Aussant llieir son, beinj; of age, and residing with them, have voluntarily declared it acknowledged, by these presents, that they have given, granted, conveyed and devisLid from henceforward and for ever, by donation in lifetime {entre vifs) pure, simple and irrevocable, without expectation of being enabled or desirous of revoking the same, excepting of right, and in default ofthe fulfilment of the obligation, clauses and conditions hereinafter specified ; and for the better se- curity of the donation, have promised, and hereby promised, jointly and seve- rally one for the other, and one for both, to guarantee against all impediments, gifts, dowers, debts, mortgages, ejectments, entails, (ju/y«//7utio?iO ^"(l s" other hindni.ices generally whatsoever, unto the said Andri Aussant their son, now present, and accepiing donatee for himself, his heirs and assigns t» wit : — All the household furniture, clothes, linen, cattle and animals, and generally all other moveables and goods at piesent belonging to thedonators, and which may be found to i)elong to ihem» on the days and hours tf PKNDr("i:. (Y.v.) 21 Aoi'it ]S2i. Donation entrevifis par Autoinc Aiissant et Angcliquc Uioaal a Aiulrii Aiissaiit. „ Qmv. Exp('"(litioii. Tar ilevant IcsNotaiics Publics ile la Province du Uas-Canada, soiissign^s, rC- dcns un an Boiirg de William Henry, I'autre en la paroisse de Bertliier, district de Montreal. Furent presens, Antoine Anssant, Notable cultivateiH, -dsidant en la Seigneu- rie de Sorel, et Angelique llicard sa Icmme, de lui dueni?nt autorist- ;\ retFet qui suit: Lesquels voulant s'assurer la subsistance pour le reste de leur jours, et d^sirant en mtime-tems donner des marques de leurs affections ii Andre Aussant leur fils majeur, resident avec eu\, ont volontairement reconniis et conitsst'; par ces pr^- sentes, avoir c^d^, quitte, transporte et delaissd dis maintenant et pour toujours, pir donation, entrevifs, pure simple et irrevocable sans esperance de la pouvoir ni voiiloir la revoquer, si non que pour cause de droit et f'aute d'accomplissement des charges, clauses et conditions ci-apres specifies, et pour plus grande suret6 du dit don ont promis et promettent solidairement un pour I'autre, un d'eux seul pour le tout, garantir de tous troubles, dons, douaires, dettes. hypotheques, evictions, substitutions et tous autres empechemens g^neralement qnelconques, au dit Ani\r6 Aussant leur fils, present et acceptant donataire pour lui, ses hoirset ayant cause, savoir : tous les meubles, hardes, linges, bestiaux it aniniaux, et autres meublcs et effets generalement quelconques qui appartiennent auxdits donateurs et qui se trouverons leur appartenir au jour et heure de leur dtces. Les bestiaux et animaux donnes consiste en quatre vaclies laiti^res. une taure de deux ans, une taure d'un an, dix-sept moutons vicux et jeune, quatre pores de dix-huit mois, un vieux cheval de tire. L'immeuble donne consistera en une terre sise etsilueen la seigneurie de Sorel au Suddela Riviere Richelieu, No, 38, conte- iiant quatre arpens de front sur vingt arpens de profondetir, born6 par devant a la Riviere Richelieu, par derri^rc a terrcs coiicc dues a Jacques Vandalle, d'un cotJ au sud-ouest ;\ terre non concedue, et au nord-est a Jacques Vandalle, avec une niaison, grange, etable et ecurie dessus erig s, le tout en bon ^'tat ; item, unarpcnt et une perche de dix-huit pieds de terres de front faisant partie du No. 4, au sud de la scconde Riviere du Vht au Beurre, sur dix-sept arpens de pro- ibndeur, tenant en devanture au chcmin, dun cote au sud-ouest ;\ Abraham See, d'autre cote a Antoine Aussant sans batisse dessus construits, ainsi que le tout sc poursuit et comporte, que le dit donataire d/'clare bien connaitre pour avoir cultivt'i y celle pour les donateurs, sans autres reserves par les donateurs que la libre jouissance de Iciirs meubles de nienages et d'un chevalle attelee a voiture, suivant les saisons pour aller on bon leur seinblera, le terns destravaux excepter, Mouvantles dites terres ci-dessus donnes eti la censive de la seigneurie de Sorel, ct envers le domftine d'icelle chargee de tels cens et rentes tel que dit et port6 au titro quitte d'arn'rages de rentes et droits seigneuriaux de tout le passe jus- ipi'a la St. Martin pn'sente anutie, pour de tous cc que dessns donnee et depen- dances, jouir, user et disposer |iar le dit donataire, ses heirs et ayant cause, conformemcnt atix charges, clauses et conditions ci-apres en pleine propriete en vcrtu dc-s presentcs a couunencer hi jouissance de eejour. La dite presente donation ainsi taite a la charge des droits seigneuriaux a I'avenir et en outre k la charge- ^K'^if^wfr'^^m 134^ ami nssi'^ns, mulcr tlic (ibli^'ations, clauses and conditions hcrrin after mcniionod, in I'lill proptTly, in virtiit; oftlicsc presents, the cnjoyuu-nt tluri'of'to lici^in from tliis «lay. Tlic said present donation heiu^ muile on condition oftlic [)iiynu'iit & observance of the scimnorial rigiUs for tlie future, & besides on condition tliulllie said doiiatoc, liis lieirs an