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AND THE COMMISSIONERS FOR AUDITING THE PUBLIC ACCOUNTS. I- O N D O N : PRINTED IN THE YEAR M.DCC.XCIII. T I INTRODUCTION, 1 .'.'■^^ ixS fo much has been faid at the clofe of laft war, and fince, refpea^ ing the different modes of fupply- ing the army, I have taken the li- berty of laying before the Public my correfpondence with the office for auditing the public accounts ; if it tends to throw any light on that bufmefs, which has hitherto been fo little underftood, and upon A 2 which iv INTRODUCTION. which there are fo many opinions, my end will be fully anfwered, and they will, perhaps, be then con- vinced, that if any pofitive fixed general fyftem could be adopted, that of contraft, which was eila- blifhed by my predecefTor, Sir Wil- liam Howe, and continued during my command, was the bell under the probable duration of ofFenfive war, in which fecrecy and celerity of operation demands that the pub- lic ftores and warlike depots of every kind fliould be amply pro- vided, and ever ready at an inftant to anfwer the call of the com* mander in chief. I J r 1 i \ AUTHENTIC f n ?!SSi JL ■ nil AUTHENTIC COPIES OF L E rr E R s, &'c. Purjuant to an A^ of Parliament^ pajfed in the twenty-fifth year of the reign of his Majefiy King George the Ihird, intituled *« An *' Aci for the better examining " and auditing the Public Ac- *' counts of this kingdom — '* A HESE are to require you to exhibit to us, on or before the firfb day of May next, at twelve of the clock at noon, at our office, 3 thrri- wr ( 6 ) authenticated copies of all the orders IfTued by the commanders in chief in North Ame- rica, for regulating the department of the Quarter- maftcr General : And hereof you are not to fail. Given under our hands at our office in Scotland Yard, Whitehall, this feventh day of April, in the year of our Lord 1786, ,1 I ! I ■ (Signed) Wm. Molleson. John. Tho. Batt. John Martin Leake. To Co lone/ Oliver De Lancey^ Adjutant General for North America, I M \\\ TO \ ( 7 ) TO LIEUTENANT COLONEL DE LANCEY. Portland Place, June 3, 1786, ■1 % SIR, JlTxWING maturely confidered the impor- tance of the iiiveftigation, in which the Com- miffioners for auditing the Public Accounts are at prefent engaged ; and the letter you have written to me, in confequence of their precept, (requiring authenticated copies of all orders ilFued by the commanders in chief in North America for regulating the de- partment of Quarter-mafler General) I feel myfelf called upon by every principle of duty, not only to enable you to obey their mandate, as far as relates to my commands, but ( 8 ) but to offer thofe gentlemen every informa- tion, either perfonally, or othervvife, which my experience and fituations may have fur- nifhed me with upon the fubjed. Different opinions have gone forth refpe£l- ing the two modes of fupplying the trains wanted rbr the land and water movements, and various other exigencies of an adling army ; and 1 underftand, that each is fup- ported by the fuffrages of moll: refpe£lablc military charaders. As the determining this great national qucftion may involve moil important future confcquences to the public, every aid fhould be fought which can throw hght upon the fubjecl ; and I am of opinion, that the fenti- ments of all the general officers who have had commands from Lord Amherft, who, I I be- ■ ( 9 ) I believe, fiift eftabJiflied this mode of con- traa, to Sir Guy Carleton inclufive, (if col- Ie6led by proper authority) might lead to an cfFedual decifion of it. As I cannot be entitled to either praife or cenfure for the merits or defe<5ls of the mode followed by me, having only adopted what I found eftabiifhed by my predecefTor, Sir W. Howe, (which the then probable fliort dura- tion of the war would have prevented my altering had I even judged it a bad one) I feel ti^yfelf entirely difmterefted in the event, and have confequently no other inducement for becoming a volunteer in this bulinefs, than that ardent zeal for the public welfare which has ever influenced my conduct. 1 muft however acknowle-^ge, th^t I atn partial to the fupplying armies by contrad, S (upon ( 'o ) (upon proper terms) for many good rcafons, amongft which the known Hmits of the ex- pence may not be the leaH: ; for the piir- chafing every thing at the opening a cam- paign would require confiderable lums of money, the greateil: part of which might pro- bably be loft-, (fliould the war be fuddenly clofed) from the great difadvantagc under which it IS well known government always fells.* Local and temporary conlklerations may indeed induce a general officer to adopt the latter plan, as was the cafe with me in I j^6 in Virginia and the Carolinas, where 1 found the articles wanted exceeding cheap, and with Lord C( dlis in 1780 and 1781 ,ornw when there was lio force to oppofe him, and he could purchafe from friends cheap, and * It Is well known at what rate government i<^ obliged to pay when in want, and at what rate it mult fell at the clofe of a war. could ( I' ) could take from the deferted plantations of the enemies ; and I iinderftand with Sir Guy Carleton, in 1782, very near the clofe of the war, when of courfe thofe articles were to be had (of thofe who had had the con- trail) exceeding cheap alfo. But as a gene- ral fyftem, I am inclined to be of opinion, that the doing it by contract is the befl, in which opinion, I think, the Commiflloners will agree with me, when they read the pro- ceedings of the two Boards of Invefligation, which I appointed at New York for the very purpofe of inquiring into this bunnefs. And I beg leave to recommend the peruilil of them to the Commiflioners, as being replete with the mofl important information, and con- taining every argument which can well be adduced on either fide the queflion. Thefe papers were tranfmitted by me to the Lords of the Treafury in the courfe of 178 1 and B 2 early w ( '2 ) early in 1782, and may confequently be ob- tained by application to their Board.* I am, SIR, Your moft obedient, Humble fervant, (Signed) H. CLINTON. * Thefe inveftigations and proceedings, and the reports thereon, and the commander in chief's corre- fpondence with the Treafury, were recommended by the Lords of the Treafury, (through their fecretary, Mr. Robinfon) to the then prefident of the Board of public Accounts, before that Board's making their fe- venth Report in June 1782, on the extraordinary ex- penditures, but that gentleman neglefted to avail him- felf of them. TO ( '3 ) TO LIEUT. GEN. SIR HENRY CLINTON, Office for auditing the Public Accounts^ j^th Nov, 1786. S I R, In confequence of the obliging ofFer con^ tained in your letter to Colonel De Lancey, dated the 3d of June M, to give the Board *< every information, either perfonally or " othervvife, which your experience and fitu- " ation may have furnifhed you with," the Commiffioners are encouraged to trouble you with the following inquiries 3 yirft, Whether any perfoijs, not belonging to the Quarter-mafler General's department. were ( 14 ) were employed to make frequent muftcrs of the drivers, horfes, waggons, carts, waggoii- maflers, conductors, clerks, ftore-keepers, artificers, and labourers, ferving in or paid by that department ? and if the returns of thefe mufters, or any of them, have been preferved, it is cefired that they may be tranfmitted to the Board. Secondly, Whether it ever came to your knowledge, that any of the perfons entrufted in the departments of the Quarter-mafter General, Barrack-mafter General, Commif- fary General, and Engineers, were the own- ers of, or concerned in the profits arifing from the horfes, &c. or boats and fhips. Thirdly, Whether, during your command, any orders were given, by which perfons en- .3' ' ^ trufled ( '5 ) truftcd with purchafing, keeping, or ifluing of public (lores, were forbidden to charge more than they paid, or to appropriate any part thereof to their own ufe, under pretence of ufage, perquifite of office, or otherwife ? And whether all perfbns employed in offices where the public money was received, or paid, or where the public ftores were received or iflued, or perfons employed to controul or check the fame, were forbidden to trade direftly or indiredtly, or to have any concern in the prize of veffels, boats, waggons, carts, and horfes ? And if any fuch orders w^ere given, either written or verbal, defire that copies, or the fubftance of them, may be communicated to the Board. I have ( '6 ) I have the honour to be, with great rc- fpeift, SIR, Your moft obedient and Moft humble fervanr, (Signed, PHIL. DEARE. N. B. If thefe gentlemen had been fo good as to have taken the trouble of fending to the Treafury for the papers recommended in my letter to Colonel De Lancey, they would have found all thefe queflions fully anfwered. TO C '7 ) TO PHIL. DEAHE, ESCt Portland Place, Dec. z6, iyS6. S I R, HAVING received your letter of the 4tli ult. when I was in the country, I could not, for want of the neceffiry papers, fupply aJ information required by the Commiffioners in the three queftions, to which you have, i« their name, defired my anfwer. Since my coming to town I have run over as much of my correfpondence, and other papers re- lating to the departments of the army lately under my command, as the time would per- mit. And though: the queries prop,fed ra. ^ ther 1 ( '8 ) thcr brunch Trom the line I had marked to myfelf in my letter to Colonel De Lancey of the 3d of June, 1786, which was written under an idea that the Commiflioncrs were then engaged in an inquiry into the merits of the two modes of fupplying the trains wanted for the land and water movements of an a«fling army, I have endeavoured to coi- led, in one point of view, all that I found material for the purpofe of anfwering them in the order in which they occur ; it beinj my fincere wi(h to give .the Commiflioners every information in my power. ' r-'S^ PIRST QUESTION. -Vl " Whether any perfohs, not belonging to *' the Qiiarrcr-iirafter General's department, '-<'■ " were ( >9 ) *• were employed to make frequent muftcrs " of the drivers, horfcs, waggons, carts, " waggon-maftcrs, condudors, clerks, florc- ** keepers, artificers, and labourers, ferving " in or paid by that department ?" ANSWER. I do not recolle£t that any perfons not be- longing to the Quarter-mafter General's de- partment were employed to make frequent mufters of the drivers, horfes, waggons, carts, &c. ferving in or paid by that depart- ment, before the month of Ai^guft 1781, when a mufter was recommended by a Board of Inveftigation, compofed of general officers and magiftrates, (which I had con- ftituted on a reprcfcntation from Major C 2 Drum- ; ' ( " ) Drummond, Commiflary of Accounts, when he firft began to a ■ r, ■ I i' SECOND QUESTION. ** Whether it ever came to your know- ** ledge that any of the perfons entrufled in ** the departments of the Quarter-mafter Ge- ** neral, Barrack-mafter General, Commif- *' fary General, and Engineers, were the ** owners of, or concerned in the profits ari- " ling from the horfes, and on the boats *' and fliips, &c. V* ■ANSWER. I never had official infornpation that they were the owners of, or concerned in the pro- fits arifing from the horfes, &c. and the boats and fhips, &c. it had (it is true) been much the fubje£l of converfation during part of my command ; that this was not only ihcn the cafe, in a certain degree, but as Sir 2 William ( ) William Erfkine, the Quarter-mafter General, informed me had been ever the pradtice in America from General Braddock's, Lord Loudon's, Lord Amherfl's, General Gage's, and Sir William Hovvj's command, but not having the fmalleft reafon to fufped fraud, and having every one to be fatisfied with the efficiency of my fupplies, I did not think it neccflary for me to take any meafiires refpcc- ting it. THIRD QUESTION. *' Whether during" your command any ** orders were given by which perfons en- ** trufted with purchafing, keeping, or ifluing *' of public {lores, were forbidden to charcrc ** more than they paid, or to appropriate any ** part thereof to their own ufe, under pre- D « tencc ( =^6 ) ** tence of ufnge, perquifite of office, or *' otherwifc — and whether all perfons em- " ployed in office?;, when the public money *' was received or paid, or when the public '• ftores were received or idued, or perfons '* employed to controul or check the fame, " were forbidden to trade direclly or indirciSl- " ly, or to have any concern uy the prize « »' of vcflels, boats, waggons, carrs, and. " horfcs r" A N S W E R. No orders which I rccollcdl: were illued during my commanding the army in chief, by whicli the perfons dcfcribed were forbid- den to charge more for fiores purchafed than they paid ; as I humbly conceive that frauds of that flagitious nature being amply puniiliable under the articles of war, as well as the laws of the land, fpcciiic orders were '* not ( ^7 ) "ot wanting to prevent them. But ns I judged it po/jible that the public might not always liave full credit given for all the frefli provifions taken from the enemy, and lUbcd to the navy and army, after informing Mr. Wier (the then Commi^Tary General) of my intentions, I gave public orders in July, ,779, to take all captured articles out of the hands of the CommilTary General and his deputies, and place them in thofe of a Commifl-ary of Captures nominated particularly for that fer- vice ; that the troops and failors when ading with the army might be fupplied gratis, and the fait provifions, fent at a great expence from England, be faved to the public, in proportion to the quantity of frefh iflued to the troops, from what was captured from the enemy, and not paid for. And on the open- ing the campaign in Carolina i„ February, '780, I appointed Commiflaries of Capture! by ( *8 ) ty commiflion, for the purpofe of converting to the good of the fervice, and the ufe, con- vcniency, and benefit of the army, all cattle and moveable property which might be cap- tured from his majefty's enemies. My orders of that period, and the comrnKfion and in- flrudions given to thofe gentlemen and the Commiirary General's deputy, will explain to the Commiilioners, the cautions I ufed to prevent receipts being taken for thofe articles (when iflued to the troops) as for crown ra- tions ; and no iffues proceeding from the Connmiflary General's ftores on the days the troops were fupplied by the Commiflaries of Captures; a vtry confiderable faving accrued, of courfe, to the public during that expedi- tion, to the amount (as I have been inform- ed) of nearly a million of rations, i do not, however, claim merit from the barely having done my duty ; but it furprifed me not a lit- 3 tie ( ^9 ) tie to fee this arrangement, and the benefits refulting from it, afcribed to the orders of a Lieutenant General ferving under my com- mand, which were iflued on the 23d of De- cember, 1780, nearly eighteen months fub- quent to mine, from which it is to be pre- . fumed they originated. ! ■ Though I am not inclined to fufped that perfons entrufted with thedifburfementof the public money could be fo Joft to every prin- ciple of honour and the fear of punifhment, as to dare to charge more for what they pur- chafed than what was adually paid ; and do not believe the circumftance ever happened under my immediate commaiid, particularly as the Commiflary of Accounts (Colonel. Drummond) whofe duty it was " to curtail " all im.proper charges, prevent unneceflary " expences, corred abufes, and fee that the " fervicc ( 3° ) '* fervice was carried on with due oeco- *' nomy," &c.* never reported it to nic ; I am yet far from aflertiqg that it did not happen : but if it ever occurred in any of the detached parts of my arrny, it is to be h- mented that the general officer commanding thofe detached troops did not report it to mc, that the offenders might have been properly puniflied, as being the '^adieft and mofl cf- fe£lual means of ftopping the pradlice for the prefent, and preventing it in future. And for the fame reafon I am equally dilinclined to believe, that any perfon entrufled with the charge of the public ftores had appropriated any part thereof to their own ufe or emolu- ment. . * Referenre to the Treafury letter dated 19th De- cember, 1780; the laftpage will fliew where thisceco- nomical arrangement originated. With ( 3' ) Wnh refpea to .he part of the queflion which aflcs whether all perfons concerned hi the receipt or payment of the public money, or in the receipts or iflbes of public ftoref, or perfons employed in controlling or checking the f;.me, were forbidden to trade direaiy or indirc-aiy-J beg leave to lay, that I never heard it even fufpedled that of- ficers of that defcription were concerned in trade; but by referring to the commiffions and inftruaions under which they afted, and which were fent to the Board by Captain Smith, my late fecretary, it will be feen how ^ir they were rcftrided from trade by the fo unwife to have claimed the rights of E a com- ( 34 ) a commifllon he held, exa£lly fimilar to that of his fucccflbr, Mr. Watfon, by propofing to take the whole fupplies into his own hands, while the army was ading offcnfively (as I underftand Mr. Watfon did afterwards, wheu it was on a ftrid dcfcnfive) I doubt whether I ihould have acquiefced even with that alte- ration ; and I have too high an opinion of the refpcdlable officer who fucceeded me, to fup* pofe he would have adlcd othcrwife than I did under the fame circumftances. Reduced however (as that general officer was) to the moft ftri£l: defenfive, and brought almoft within iight of a conclufion of the war, he a£bed perfedly right in making fuch oecono- mical arrangements as he might judge moft conducive to the public benefit. But while condu£ling an ofFenfive war of great magni- tude, no commander in chief could exa- mine the accounts of the departments of his army, ( 35 ) army, with the prccifion their intricacy and multiplicity required, though ever Co quali- fied by the mod familiar acquaintance with figures and accounts ; nor indeed could there have been any neceflity for it while there was a Commiflary of Accounts on the fpot ; the other more important cafes of fuch a com- mand being amply fufficient to employ every moment of his time. It muft be admitted, therefore, that frauds, abufes, and unnecef- fary expences in the management of the army extraordinaries in North America (fuppofing they had exifted) could have been effeaualiy obviated only by the Commiflary of Accounts having a^ed from the firfl of his appoint- ment, which he was repeatedly called upon to do. But as I have to regret that he did not, I may without vanity aflert, that I took every other precaution which py fituatioa ^ 2 aiid i»4 ( 36 ) and infornti;Ion fuggefted. If I happened at any time to be ftruck with the increafe of ex- pence, I immediately called upon the depart- ments to account for it, as may be feen by referring to my corrcfpondence, particularly my circular letter to the heads of depart- ments, dated 28th of June, 1780, with their anfwers. This I humbly prefume may invalidate the infinuation of the Seventh Report of the CommifTioners of the Public Accounts, that I granted rAvay the public money with- out even the ceremony of a quarterly abftra£t. For though fo much flrefs is laid upon final warrants, and the abilrafls accompanying them, it will readily occiur to the (lighteft re- flcdtion, that in the difperfed ftate of the de- partments, the whole of their dilburfements could fcarcely ever be colletled in time to be included in the quarterly abdradls, and con- fcquently the money wanted for the public •'. fervice ( il ) fervice muft have been unavoidably granted on account of the commanders in chief, ac- cording to th?^ confidence they placed in the public officers, fv^rhofe high rank, ability, and very rcfpcdable characters, ought to have raifed them even above fufpicion) and the ef- timates they laid before them- Hovirever, as foon as I vas warranted by the certificates of the CommifTary of Accounts, or the report of a Board which I appointed to receive and examine his objedions to the accounts of fome of the departments, and their anfwers, I granted final warrants, before I left the command, to every department, except that of the Commiflary General, whofe accounts had not been reported upon in time, though the GommlflTary of Accounts was repeatedly ureed to expedite them. I took eff^dual meafure to fecure to the public and the army, every pofTible advantage from the cattle, fo- rage, ( 38 ) rage, and other moveable property taken from the enemy. And to obtain every light which could forward the purpofcs of oecono- my and retrenchment, I appointed the raofl refpe£bablc and beft qualified boards of invef^ tigation which that army and country afford- ed to receive informarion from the Commif- fery of J\ccounrs, and affift in minutely exa- mining into all the expenditures of the diffe- rent departments from the beginning of the war, to nearly its clofe ; that every abufe which exifbed might be dcte£led, and every poflible means of faving the public money adopted. I alfo appointed a gentleman of re- ipedable rank and character to watch over ihe purchafes of rum, that every jufticc might be done to the nation and the foldier in that article ; and the infl:ant the circum- flances ( 39 ) fiances of the timei* tied up my hands and confined me to a ftri£t defenfive, I called upon all the departments to make every pof- fible redudion in their refpedive trains, my plan for which was given to General Robin- fon upon his being appointed to fucceed me in the command. I do not prefurne to plume myfelf with any benefits refulting from thefe meafures to this kingdom, but I hope it will not be judged unreafonable in mc to expcdt that they may at leafl ferve to refute the charges of tvant of ceconomy and atten- tion, which have been fo very illiberally infi- nuated againfl me in the feventh Report al- luded to. I am, SIR, Your mofl obedient humble Servant, H, C. * The Refolution of the Houfc of Commons of March, 17&A. P.S. ( 'O ) P, S. To fave the trouble of tranfcribing my orders and letters refpeding the ap- pointment of Commiflaries of Captures, I beg leave to inclofe my printed letter to the Commiffioners of Publig Accounts, in which they are inferted : I like wife take the liberty of referring the Commif- Jioners of the prefent Board of Accounts to the proceedings of the two Boards of Inveftigatio* ppointed by me at New- York, which contain a variety of moft . important information, and may he obtain- ed hy application to the Lords of his Ma- jefty's Treafury ; having tranfmitted them to their Lordftiips from America many months before the above Commiilioners of Public Accounts delivered in their feventh Report on the extraordinaries of the army ; therein they will alfo find the return of mufters made of the trains and vefTels at- tached ( 4t ) tachcJ to the diftcreiit departments In Au- gull: 1781 ; alio for the contra^^ or agree- ment entered Into by Sir William Erlkine darinj; the connind of my preJeccflor, Sir William Howe, with Meffrs. Win- throp and Kemble In April 1777, and the other documents left by Sir William Erf- kine in. the ofnce of the Quartcr-mafter General, and the formal reports of the deputle;, Colonel Bruyn and Major Ro- blnfon ; the copies of my circular letter to the heads of departments in June 1780, refpefling the increafe of expenditure, with their anfvvers ; and all the other papers re- ferred to in this Iett?r, not already fent to the Commi.Tioiiers, or included In the above, are herewith inclofed. H. CLINTON, L '.catena nt- Gene?- a \ late Commande r in Chief in North- America, THE END.