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'I'liiiisciipl of entries in l^eyister of Prollionotury ol the Hnpfirior Court of t!io
District of Saguonay _ |
Kieclion I'otition of Osec HrnMi^nrd and Henry '"ackburn 7
I'lleclion of ilomicile liy II. ('. I'ellotior n
Aiipearance ol II. ('. I'elletior for Uespondont 12
i'roliininary objeclionH of lit.xpondent i;;
Noiicoof i.iiljlictttioii of contestation in the ".loiirnai de Quebec," and account
forsunie i-
.Saiiio notice in 'Canada Gazotlo," and account k;
Siinie notice in "(^iioliec Mercury, " and account 17
Same notice in •■ Le Canadien," and account 17
Inscription on preliminary objections [g
Notice alKJut sidd inscription to Clerk of Court jg
Account of J. J. Foote for publication in "Morning Chroniclo" of tjtioboc 18
Judgment of Judge lloutbier on )>ieliininary objections in
Consent of parties to lixing trial 2I
Motion of Uospondcnt loi- particulars and notice 22
Judge lioutliier's jud{- iiont ordering particulars 24
.Motion by Petitioners for order to ("lerk of the Crown in (."haucory to produce
papers 2(;
Motion by Respondent that proceeding be stayetl on account of insufficiency of
particulars .j'j
Particulars ot Petitioners 29
Declaration ol Petitioners concer.-ing jiarticulars 33
Appearance of J. 8. Perrault as Counsel at enqucto for Ucspondent 34
Motion by Petitioners to amend particulais 'jr
Affidavit of P. A. Tremblay to said motion gg
Motion by Petitioners to amend particulars 37
Affidavit ol P. A. Tremblay to said motion 37
Order on Clerk of the Crown in Chancery and cortitieate of service 38
Motion by Petitioners to amend particulars 39
Affidavit of Itospondent that ho cannot go on with ease 40
Motion by liespondont to postpone case .^j
Admission of tacts by liespondent 12
Certificate of Service ol Subpcenas, J. B. Tr Mblay 43
Certificate of Service of Subpoenas " <<
Certificate of Service of SubjKcnas, H. Huot 45
Subp(cna to Epipliane Guilt^iet, Alfred Lavoie, Zephirin Guilmet, Thomas
Larouche, Telesphore Kortin ig
Subpojna to Alex, Mure and Jas. Guaj, and certificate of service of same 47
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lU'i Sill. nn'iiii 111 i;iii_i (lirm^l, Jeiiii Auilnlto 'lit Lii|i')iiito, DMior 'iaiilirKir, .Micliol
I'ilolc, Alt'xis (iiriinl, Kiiiiii (tiranl. Dnvi'l 'rroiiililiiy, Xiuior Tromblay,
I'orlciiiDti (Imiiliior, Ilmi. Davi ' i'rico, iiiul fiirtilii'ute ol'-inrvioo U'
;!7 .Siili|)n.'nii Id My)). Troinlilay, J. H. I'ildto, Tousmilnt UiT^'cnm, K. Hoiiflmril, (irul
I'crtidi'iito o('n«rvi('o of Hnmo ."il
.'JH Siilijici'im to Biirllii'lemi Uoiicliiii'il, Aniulile Ctiriiri), Serapliin Villciioiivo. Jiflin
t'liainaiil tils, llnriii. Caniii, JuIor 'I'i'ikIi'I, ainl fortilicato oi servicu 53
• Jit SiilijtuMiM III K. Foriin, Adam Simiiril, Thomas Kortiii, Aiif,niHliiie Dor^, Cloophai*
Tliiliaiilt, !\ II. (iiniril, ami cortitifati) ofNui'vico ,")5
40 .Siili|iimia to .los. McLiian, I''fs. Miiltais, I'liiselio Mai'lel, Zopliifin Savai'd utid
c'l'rtificato of survico ,-,-
■H Siili|iii)iiii lo Dciiis 'laiitlilcf ami cortilirato of sofvico 51)
t2 Suii|i(iMia to John DcsliiciH, Klij Mailloux, Oinor Boiichai-ii, .lean Suvnrd, Ffn
licr^jfion. William Savaid, .ioswph Chiiniliorland, Wilfred nliiis I'Vil Tfetnhlay
niid curtilicato of sei'vicu liO
1.'! SultfKPim (n Aivhillo Hlioiof, ({ro;,'oirt) Ti-omblay, Fru. Dnllaire, Ffw. Tfcmhla^-,
Foriliiiaiid Itmi'hai'd, l^iiai'c Oiiclcttc, 'riiomas Savai'd, Onosiriui Tromblay.
Augiisle Diifoiir, Ncrzaiii lii'jriilio, Francois Trtniiblay, Naro Dassylva, and
cortlfipato (if Norvico (;2
fl Siibixciia to I*. X. Hois, Josi'pli Dui'lu'siic. Thomas t'oto. Andre IJouchanl, Jjoiiis
Guiithior, Jo.sopli (limoii. Assini Savard, Samiitd Hovin. atid eorlitiuatc of
sorvico (J.J
t5 Siibpiuiia to ("I6i)]ili.is CoU', F. X. I)t'su;a<fii(', and I'ortilicate of .servii'c (J5
Ki Sulipitaa to Maximo Diifour and cortittcati' ot'soi'vicc Ct;
47 Siibp(JBna to |.rro!^oru Tromblay, I'ioi'ro Tremblay, Fr-i. Tromblay, Ant. Moiichard,
Antoino (raiilhitM", Noi'in (!autliior and I'priiHcato ofsorvico (17
48 Siibpiena to Thomas Lapiiiiilo. Aii^^cuslin Tromblay. .loan .Miiro, J'opin (iaLjnon,
.Fohn Ija|)oiiito, .Jii-ioph |{)ii(diari|. Amablo (iirard and cKrtiticato of .sorvico... dit
4!' Siibpuena to llorbort Tromblay, Loiiis Tronjblay, Oidsimo I'ilolo, I'ltionno Desi'a-
j^iies, Frs. Savard. Ant. Itauthior, Justo Uouohard, llobort Colbombe, Joan
Mailloux, llobort (liiard, I)avid (lilbort. ami corliticaio of service 71
.")(( .Siibpu'iia lo Aiif^iisto [iacinc, Moiso Tromblay, and cortiticalt" of Morvico T,',
51 Subp(cna lo Serajiliin Tromblay, Pitro Kilhort, N'apoioon Tromblay, Pierre
I5ourassa, Xavier (iirard. .\l[)lioiiso (i.ai;;non, .'ind cortiticato of service 75
53 .Subptuna to Thomas <iai,'iion, Frs. Harvey, .foan Ilarvoy, aii'l cert, ofsorvico 77
51] Snlipojna to Loaiidro Cole, CIcophas Tromblay, Jos. JJcr^oron, and cert, of service. 7fi
54 Siibpirna to Frs. (raj;non, David Dassj'Iva, and corlilicale of service si
55 .Siibp(ena to Hoiilc As.solin, Zopliiriii Savard, Oncsiine Horyeron. .fos. IJovdreaiilt,
Zt'ljhirin Mor^'oron, Flavicn Viilinoavo, Azaru Assolin, Nareisso Lajoie .S;;
56 Subprona to StaiHsla.s Brassard, and cortiticato of ^orvice S5
57 Siibprtsna to Thos. Tromblay, of St. Fidole. Thos. Tremblaj-, of St. Simeon, Thos.
Boucliai'd, Vital JTarvey. Barthelimi rfai^no. Thos. Savard, and cert, ofsorvico 87
58 Subpnena to Julos T'omblay. I'jiio Lapointo, Xaro Harvey, Doais Harvey, Jonniiy
(iauthier, ForJinund Tromblay, Octavo Girurd, Louis (-rautliier,Wm. Harvey,
(ril'i Moiichard and oortiticato of sorvico .80
50 SubpoDii ! Abel Mal'.ais, Eseliagnon, Emiloiii Uouohard, Johnny Tromblay, and
certiticato ofsorvico HI
fiO Subpoena to Urogoire Joan, Jos. Bouchard, Frederic Otis, .Fean Harvey, Thomas
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Ilai'vtiy. TliiN, OiimiDM, .Stiiiipliiii l/ij lin, Aiidn- rmi.,-, Ivi-rr) Uesbierw,
Fi'li.v liij >ii'', iiriil (•(•rtjiirulo ofunrvmo ij;^
■^'il.pi'iiii i(, Tlix. Himu-.l. Ki/,. ('iinwrltiil, •',., .(mclnirl, Tn n. Troini)li»y,
Nmrit-^o n.ii-liiii'l, .loliniiy l),-.l.i.Mis, ALriilitiin 'IVf ir.liiy, Micliol I«,-lt.jii ,
Michel Tivinliliv, I'iKn. U m I, irl ii't I cc-riacitf of sorvino 1(5
Siio|>i' II 1,1) .\l(!\'i- 'I 141 III ,111 1 Tin. Triviil)|iy, nil I coriitifuln ormifvico !t7
^iit.p,(.iiii to A lol|.ln> (Jirurl, 'I'lio ni- tiir.inl, Kim. 'l'iii-;,'uofi, H iniCiK Lirom-lie,
Ih'in-i <Tiiiirl, .locph L umiicIio, Joliimy Dufoui'. (roorii:^ fjiponcho, Jo^ujili
l.iioih'lie. Tiiiioihu! Simirl, (h-iiivo Simnvl, K ivior Lii- .iiclu), A lolphc Mar-
(<'l, .1. II. Uol hie, Luiirniu I'iloto, Tlioiiiiis Liiroii.lic, Vllru.l Diilonr, uikI
(•0l'liti(;il(' of ii'ivici) ijil
."^iil>|»iim to 'I'licml l'ii(|iu'i, iOinilc Jai'ot, :iii.| corlilicaio ot'Hi>i'vic<- KM
Siib|),i-ii;i I., .lo^i.pl, H Muliiini, Ovi.le SiiUMivl, lloi'ior lliiot, Aii.:,'iHto Siiiiunl,
Atnuii* IL'iiriiil. J. 15, |{,^iiMil, Tlii-nis li it- .tulu', .\r«' l<sio iSmrlmnl, J,
Foriiii. Lii<' Siiriiird, Ililli-lN'rr 'rr-ml.liiv, Flonrani Diilb ir, \V. Tieinliliiy,
Kpiplmiie (iiiilini'ftt', Znpliii'ir) (iiiilinDtto, Klouniiit Tivmhluy, f.'ainillo
IJMulmni. <'. H. Sinmrl. Kruiiii Simiii-I J02
.111 l^'iljiit iir.liiL'c l{);|ilii.'i- o 1 merits of petition, 103
A B I ivit of i{)sp ) 1 It- il. Lh U 01-1' II' III >|ej) Initio I oC/i. iriiiiil 'lie Iil5
l> ',) nil ion til' /, -p lirin (riilineite |(j5
^''''' 'fHuHpoiiiiotii loi'foiTtM'iiiij; tifZopliiriii (Miilmcinj's .loposliioii ; rojumoJ id'
I' A li r 11.
1 Hi'iisoiis loi' jij. Infill, mi: ol'. Ill jir.i IJoiitliicr ,. 1
2 Mximtiiv ;}5
(I.) 0//',fUioiir,:i '{5
A. AI).Hlriicl of 111.! st'ileiii.til, ol tlie (.•x|)oiiius of tlio lloii. II. L. IjiiiiLCeviii at tlie
KIcctioii of ( 'Jiiii'iovoix ill .laiiiiaiy, ltS7<) KS
A. A.— At't't. of Olivior, .Monlioal ;^(;
— Ai'cl. of Aie.\i> l>eliH|e 3(j
— Ai'fl. ofTolei,'riipli Oili.'o, S(. li<jiit.'o 36
— Acci. Ailolplii" 'i'roiiililay iiijaiiist K. Uoiilciii 37
— Awl. Adolpho TroiiiMay iii,'jiiiiHi .1. Israel Tario 37
--Acct. J(iM. I'oilriiM 3g
— A<'Ct. .Moniruiil 'lVlo4i-apIi ('o 3g
B. Vol us ami I'loceeiliiif;'-" of Iloi. .' of I 'oininoiis 40
<■'. C. Declaration ot' I'itio (iilljorl aii'l .\a\ ior (Jirar.i 46
F. Declaration of Anioiiio Hoiitliiiril ami olIiei'H 46
11. Letter of ■' A (>in? of t;iiiirluvoi.\" 41)
K.^tract tVoiii stuieineiit of I'xpotiw iiiciirretliii the naiiio of lion. II. L Laiijjrfvin. ( M5. ^6
(11.) Exhibits «/ Dtf aidant.
List of Dcfemlnnt's KxhibitN 57
N'o. 1 Declaration of Joliiiiiy De.Hbiens 68
.\o. 2 Aiialysin of a sermon In- .M. Siroir* [.8
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Xi>. ."i Kxtrjilt lioiii '• liC ('auadipii " ,;4
No. I l':istor:il heller or tluMJishoiJs of tho KiTl(>>iii>iiral I'roviiic,. of (^iiuOn'c 70
No, .") Circiiliir of llic liislions
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\o. t; Accl. of Slims ]);ii(l to various Cai'lofs ,^4
No. 7 Accl. oi 'l'fk'i;ra|ili Oporalor at KlioiiliMiiotits si;
Xo. S Apuf. ()l"iVK'ii.raiili Opcfator at liaic St. Paul S(!
No. '.I Aci't. of sums paiil for lioiiso liirc ,S7
No, 10 .Vcia. of sums paid ;o Mrs. Widow Rivcrin for lioard ss
No. 11 Acct. of Tlioopliilc .Simard li)r hoai'd SS
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iH'feiidaiil's K.xliiliit 12. d.'taiicl stalcmont of |ior>oiKil cxiieiiscs of dolciidant :i
2iid Doposilioii o| lloii. 11. L. ljafii;cviii n,
I >('|io^iiioii of Narcisso IJoiK'iiard 11
.loliniiy l)cslii(.'ii> 1;.
Dcrhiraiioii of .lolniiiy Di'sbjoiis, aiiiic.Nuil to lii.s deposition 17
Dfposiiioii i>f .\avirr Laroiiclit' |s;
■■ I'.inilieii Homdiaru ^>()
•• Aliel Maltais .....^ ijii
•' Cliarli's Hoiicliarii -15
" .loliiiii\- Ti'CMiililay •'-
" litori;!' (iaiitliicr Laiimclic ^11
■• I'" . 'ois Tiiri;i'oli
" I'.i o Tlioodorc Paqiict
•• .Iran liaptistc Holdiu-
•' lli'iirv liii'ard
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•' ■■ .Vlli-fil l»iiloiir
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Ocl.avt' Siiiiard
lioliiiaro LaroiiidiL'
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" ■' Slaililas lir:;--.arl
" David Dassilva -s
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Leandro Cote
JoHoi>h )!• rijoron
(rrogoii'o Jean
Jean Harvey
Thomas tf agnon
Andre Carre
Thonius Tromlilay
Jieille AMseii n
Maurice Houciiard
Zoplierin Savard
N areisso Harvey
David Koy
Denis llarvoy
("oine Savard
Zepliiriii liergeron
Jules Tremblay
Edouai'd Siniard
Thomas Perron
William Harvey
Joseph lioudreault
Fliivien Viilenouve
Onesime Bergeron
Fieri'o J)aiii'jlh<on
Vidal Harvey
Nai'cisse liajoie
Jean Baplis'o (iantliior
( ii 1 hert Bouchard
Kplirem (raj^non
Fioreiil Cole
Ferdiniiiid Tiemblay
Louis O (iautiiier
Octavo Gi Piird
. Ednumd Langoviii, V. G. dated .\[ay ['Asi, '7"J...
. l-ldmoiid Langevin, V. G. dated June lOili. 1.S72
P. A. TremUay
I'itre (rilbert
Dcinuniijue Dueliesne
Ci eorges Treni biay
ilalvina Dionne
Hon. H. L. Langevin
Charles Duherger
Fraii(;oi(* X. Gilbert
llyppolite Villeneuve
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VI.
PART IV.
Defendant's Kvideuce.
1
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of Francois Xavier Pirard....
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Maximo Dufour ....
Adam SimanI
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CloophaH Coto
Xavior Dogaj^no
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Edward Fortin
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Tiiomas Fortin
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Cleoplias Thibault
Soraphin Villeneuvo
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Antoine Bouciiard...
Francois Tremhlav
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Ily polite Tremblaj
Jean IJaptisto Pilolo
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Toussaint Heryeron
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Kdouard Boucher...
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Naron (fautliior
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Poussaint Jioricoron
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Herbert Tremblay
Norbert Girard
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23
Onesinio Piloto
57
24
Ftienne Des/^agiies
David Gilbert
Antoine (iauthier
. 59
25
(j1
26
(i2
27
Juste Jioutliard ...
64
28
Octave JJouchard
fi5
29
Norbert Coulomb.
G7
30
Jean Maill()u.K
(J8
31
Amable (iirard ...
09
32
Ale.xis Girard
79
33
Josej)!! Bouehard.
76
34
Augiistiii Tremblay
... 77
35
Elie (iirard
78
3(!
Hon David Priee
. . 80
:!7
of I'actH by Petitioners
85
38
ofJean Audet
.. 86
39
Pepin Gagnon
88
40
Denis (iauthier
89
41
Frs. Savard
94
42
Louis Tremblay
96
43
Barthelemi Bouchard
98
44
Ant. Gaulhier
OQ
45
Jos. Tremblay
100
^
Vll.
4fi
Deposition
4t
II
It
If
II
(1
14
11
II
II
II
II
II
II
II
it
II
II
II
l<
II
II
41
II
II
II
II
It
41
41
14
(1
14
44
44
44
44
14
44
44
14
If
AdmiBsion
of Johnnj- Liipointo
47
Jwiii Munuv
48
ViiK'osias Tromblay
49
Joiinn}' DosbieiiH .
SO
Joan Suvunl ,
51
E])lirem iSiinunl ...
52
I'jiie Miiillou.f
53
Jos, CluiinberlaiKl .
54
Jos. ISoiiciianl
55
Emmanuel Gii'anl .
66
Geo. Giranl
67
58
Luc .Simai'd
Alfred, alias l-'ril, Simurd
59
O'lior Bouchard .. .
60
Auf^usto Siinard
61
Xavicr Tremblay .
62
CIcoplio Siniard
63
Tclosphorc Fortiii .
64
ilildebert Treniblav
65
Jon. Siniard
66
Floronl Uiilour
67
OvidoSimard ... .
68
J. li. Siinard
69
Frederic Cote
70
Mcderic lioucluird
71
Zepliirin (tuilmet ...
72
Anania.s Jienaud
73
J. B. Jtenaud
74
Allrod Lavoio
75
Epiphanu (iuilniette
76
Francois Troniblav
77
Auguste Duf'our
78
Narcisse Das.silva
79
Xazaire Berulje ....
80
Ferdinand Boucliurd
K1
Francois Dallaire
8«
Oiiesiinc Tremblay
as
li^naco Ouollet
84
Thomas iSavard
85
Alexandre Muri'ay
86
Joseph Guay ... .
87
Jolm Chainard
88
Jules Trudel
89
90
91
The Rev. Francois Cinq-Mars....
Joseph Stanislas Perrault
Israel Tarte
92
of Proof
I'AGE.
. 101
103
. 104
109
. 112
115
. 11!)
121
. 122
124
. 125
126
. 131
132
. 133
136
.. 13!)
140
. 141
142
. 143
144
. 145
146
,. 147
148
,. 150
151
,. 152
154
. 155
158
. IGO
161
. 1(J2
163
. 164
165
. 166
167
. 16:t
ItO
. 171
173
. 186
1S8
. 194
kijTri^pa^-iir^ijMij
VUl.
Kvidtnte of Petitioners in Rebuttal.
|9
1 Dopositioii of lioinnnlii <riiyno
2 " Soi'a|)liiii Ijiijoio
3 " .IoHoj)h McLoaii .
4 " Klzoar Danais
6 " Zei)hirin Savard .
6 " Kusebe Mantel
I'AOK.
196
. lOfi
U»7
. ]!Ut
200
. 201
Counter Evidence of IX-feii<iant to Evidence of Petitioners in Rebuttal.
1 StaiiiHlan Perrault.
■im
|h
Ncf oi' Vi:m!,s I IN THE SUPERIOR COURT.
PIIOVINC ,
hinlrict tif Siuiufniiy. )
THE DOMINION (JONTIlOVEUTlill) ELECTIONS ACT, IS71.
N.) W.
OSEE BRASSARD kt al..
I'llili'iiifrn .
AND
FIoN. n. L. LANGEVIN,
Iti^liiiiiilnit,
• «
I TkANSiHIPT ok Till'; EnTHIKS MADK in this C\SK in TIIK ISKdlHTKIt.
2(1./ Miinli, lH7(i.
Oiiu Fkhuinanm Hii.odkau, fiiriiur of St. I'iilclo, Cimiity of Clmrli'voix, deposits, in
tile C'Ki'lv's Ollicc ((iretl'c), with tlie I'l'iitlioiiotary, tho IVtition ia this case, complaining of
tho return of the eli'ctiou of the itespoiiJent.
I'.i.iK AxiiKiis, Esuuire, Xotiiry, of Jliilbaio, deposits with the Clerk of the Election
Court tlif ^rL-iuity re.pured liy law, to wit: One thousand doHars in Dominion Notes.
Tlie Clerlv >,'ives to the dei)ositor a receipt for the same, and enters the said Petition.
nil Mairh, 1H70.
10 The Protiionotary furnishes to each of tho Returning Officer and Registrars of
tho two Registry Oftices for the Counties of Ciiarlevoix and Saguenay a copy of tho said
Petition, and notice of the same is sent to be puhUshed i)y tlie following newspapers, to wit:
ihf QiifhiT tiiititti; l.c ('(iiiudiiii, l.i- .IminKil <lr (Jni'lirc, Tin' Mniiiini Clirdiiklo and The Mercuiij,
all published in Quebec.
\)lh Miiirh, IHTO.
The Respondent, by his attorney, II. Cyrias Pelletier, elects his domicile at the office
of .1. S. Porrault, advocate.
The Respondent fyles appearance by II. C. Pelletier. (Copy received.)
The Respondent fyles pnliiainary objections and deposits the sum of eight dollars
20 and thirty-six cents. (Copy received.)
11//I M,nrl,, 187G.
The Jiiiintal de Qiwlier and ][fieial Hmelte of Quebec, containing a published notice
of till, coiitfslalioii 01 iho eieeciou,in this case, with au account for said puWieation,
are fyled. ,
'f
I
IH/A Mill. I,, IH-tl.
U.o..l..a'Jltlu:ca...vvi.ln.ua,.ouut ^.r Iho .u.uo. und an account fro,.. „. ^ <-/.-
fov tlio Miiut' i)ii!>licati(iii, an- fvl'il.
•^1 ",i,rli, iH-tJ.
30 Tlu. ., .. H u.scnl. .,1 lo. ..n,,. ...I U.anu, •- U.' l.veluuin.ry objecti.-ns t^v the
•ilUh Muivh, ru,! is t,:,ru .-. ih'Ulnrr oil MliJ m-l'l'll.tloll.
Acouuul rmu,slu.,l by U- r,n:.lrlr tn. i,ul,h,hinK ,,otu r tlu. i,uMicatiou or th.
iioiitoHtatiim oi' tlic cicetiou in this (.a-.
I'lirtifs uro luai'l on the luvllnumii-.v oUjoctionH.
TiiL.n "I 'l''lil"'>r. Il"ii. -lii'ln''' U'Hithiur.
n(/, Man, 1m7<1
.lu,l-ii).Mit -iv.m in ClmiulH'.s. (.lua^'inent \.)
Uth .liiiic IHTti.
Tnal ot the inHition livcl l.y ..n„s..nt t,.r tho ih.! July, lH7<i. .'ons-ut
1(1//, ,/»/,'•, 1H70.
Motiou on the i.ul of ihe llosiu.na.nt I', particulars, and notice ol tlu- san.
f„r,h.. -iOlh Juno.lyW. _^^^^^^^ ^ ^_^._
Pai'tiv-. heard on said motion. Hclil'm.
•Mill .liiiii\ !• '•>■
J„aKnuM,t on motion rcndorcd. (Judgmout B.)
Mot.on on the part o^ the Poftioners ^r an ^^^r to^l. Hc.^ o. U.e (.ro.n
50 Chancery, to transu.it documents. Motion granted. Hon. A. B. lloutk.c, ..
;),r/ ./"///, 1H7C.
.1 vt o. the Ues„on,lent to adjourn trial until tho Petitioners have
Motion on the pa.t ol the U. 1 " J ^^^^^^ ^^.^^^..^
complied with the judgment coneernmg the lull «t 1^
costs. Hon. A. r.. Routhier, J. C. S.
.,1 uith their cnnucte from this day until the eighth instant.
. . ''" ':TZ:r:::l i tln^^ M.. .. appearance as counsel at enau.te.
O:;;:;:;: ^:yt ktiuoners ma.c t.. .notions to ame. 1 par.culars.
411
i
4
t
1th Jiilij, 1870.
Tlio Prtitioiiors lyli' llio onlcr of tlio Clerk of the Crown in Cliiuicery to proiluce all
GO (liieunients ri'liitin.t; to tliu liit(! controverted election.
10,'/i Juhj, 1870.
Piirties iijipear. In tiie absence of the .Judge, the Court is adjourned till the 11th
nistant.
From the lOth .July until the 5th August (inclusively) the Court is opened and
udjonrned from day to day.
"//( AiKninl, 1K70.
'I'll:' .Judge being present, the I'etitioners oxamino Andre Carre, Thomas Tremblay,
Zephirin Savard, l.ireuil Assolin and Maurillo IJouchard. Court adjourns till the 8th
August, 187().
•TQ 8f/( A III/ list, 1870.
The Judge and parties being present, the following witnesses are examined : Z.
Bergeron, (in part), his deposition is adjourned till the 'Jth August; Jules Tremblay, Nar.
Harvey, Denis Harvey and C.'.me Savanl. The Court adjourns till the Dtli August, 1870.
',)//( Aiiijiixt, 1870.
The Judge and parties being present, the following witnesses are examined: Vital
Uarvev. The Petitioners make a motion to amend tlieir bill of particulars, (granted). The
witness, Zephirin ISirgcroa, proi>eeds with his deposition. Edouard Simard, Thomas
Perron, Wil. Harvey. Flavien Villeneuve, Onezime IJergerou, Jos. Boudi'eiiu, Nar. Lajoie
and Pierre Danielson. Court adjourns until lOtli August, 1870.
80
lOM AunuKt, 1870.
The Judge and parties being present, the following witnesses arc examnied: J. B.
tuiuthier, (iilbert liouchard, I'erd. Tremblay, Oct. Girard, Ls. Cauthier Floreut Cute,
Ephrem tiagnon and D. l!oy. Court adjourns till 11th August, 1870.
ll//( Aiiiinst. 1870.
TJie Judge and parties being present, the following witnesses are examined: George
Tremblay, Malvina Dion, Domiuiipie Duchesne, Hyp. Villeneuve, Pitre Gilbert, V. X.
Gilbert and P. A. Tremblay, Esiiuire. The Court adjourns till the Pith August, 1870.
Vlth Amiiiit. 1870.
The Petitioners declare their eu(piete cIos.hI, reserving the right to ro-examinc the
H(v j{,,„ I,,,,..'evi!i. ;uid also the riglit to inuve the Petitioners' standing ii/iialitin), the nomi-
'^ nation of the candidates and that the witnesses are electors. Charles Dubcrgcr is heard
as a witness. The Respondent moves to adjourn eneiuete.
t
19//( Aiiniisi, 1870.
The Judgi! iiiul parties being present, the Petitioners examine Hon. Mr. Langovin as
a IjjiituL'ss. An ailmission of certain facts made by the Eospondont is fylod by the
Petitioners. The Respondent proceeds with his enquete, and F. X. Girard is examined as
a witness.
21.S7 Aiiiiiist, 1870.
'J'hu Judge and parties being present, the following witnesses were examined:
100 Miiximo Dufom-, Adam Simard (deposition adjourned to tlio '22ud August, 1870), Clcophas
Co.i and V. X. Desgiigners. The Court adjourns till the 2'2nd August, 1870.
22)1'/ Aii;iii.sl, 1870.
The Judge and parties being present, the following witnesses are examined : Adam
Simard (continued), Augustin Dore and Edouard Fortin. The Court adjourns till the 28rd
August, 1870.
28ni Autiist, 1870.
The Judge and parties being present the following witnesses arc examined: Thomas
Fortin, Cleophas Thibault and Seniphin Villineuvc. The Court adjourns till the 21tli
August, 1870.
110 'litli Ai,;imt, 1870.
The Judge being absent, the Court is adjourned until the 25th August, 1870.
•2')lli Aiiijuxt, 1870.
The Judge being absent, the Court is adjourned until the 20th August, 1870.
20^/i Aniiiisi, 1870. .
The Judge and parties being present, the Respondent examines Pierre Trcmblay.
Court adjourns till 28th August 1870.
28//( Am/ii^l, 1870.
The Judge and parties being present, the Respondent cxamuies Antoiue Bouchard,
Fram;ois Trembhiy, Grcgoiro Trendday, llypolite Tremblay, J. Bte. Pilote, Toussaint
120 Bergeron, Edouard Bouchard and Meron Gauthier. The Court adjourns till the 29th
August, 1870.
29//( Awnist, 1870.
Tlie Judge and parties being present, the Respondent examines : Toussaint Bergeron,
Hubert Trcmblay, Norbert Girard, Onuzime Pdot, Etiennie Desgagners, David Gilbert,
Antoine Gauthier, Juste Bouchard, Octave Bouchard, Norbert Coulombe, Jean Mailloux,
Amablo Girard. The Court adjourns to the 3()th August.
mill Aiiiiiist, 1870.
The Judge and parties being present, the Respondent examines Alexis Gn'ard,
Joseph Bouchard, Augustin Tremblay, and Fdio Girard. The court is adjourned to the 31st
130 August.
81s/ Aiifiiist, 1H70.
Thu Jiidf,',. uu,l i),ii-tiaa Ij.^in^- present, tlii! Re.spondont examines Hon. D. E. Price
Jeanne Au,let, an,l I'.pin Gngiion. Tlio Petitioners admit that the other witnesses of St'
Irn6o Hummoned will in-ovo the same facts pn.ved by the other witnesses summoned from
tliat parish and already examined by Respondent. The Court adjourns to tlie 1st of
September, lH7(i.
Lv< Scjiiciiihir, 1870,
The ,Jad-e and parties boin- present, the Respondent examines Denis Gauthier, 1-Vs.
Savar.l, Lodis Tremblay, Hartheleniy JJouchard, Ant. Gautliior and Joseph Treml»l,.v, and
HOfyles an ad-nission (a^lmis.n,^ ,k prane). The Court adjourns until the 'ind Septem-
ber. 1870.
'2ii(l Sfiitrmlicr, 1870.
The Judge and parties beiu.; m-osent, the Respondent examines John Lapohite, Jean
Murray, Vinceslas Tremblay. The Court adjourns until the Uh Soptemler, 1870.
4lli >;,'iil(mhcr, 1870.
The Judge and parties being present the Respondent examhies . Johnney Desbiens,
Jean Savard, and ]':i)hrem Simard. The Court adjourns till the 5tli September.
5/// S,-jili')iihei\ 1870.
Tin; Judge and parties being present, the Respondent examhies, Elio Mailloux,
150 Joseph C'liamberland, Joseph JSouehard, Lue Hiraard, Emmanuel Girard and George
(iiraid. The Court is then adjourned to the 0th September.
0//i Srpimliir, 1870.
The Judge and parties behig present, the Respondent examined: Alfred Tremblay,
Cl.'ophas Simard, Tolesphore Forthi, Ilildebert Tremblay, Joseph Simard, Florent
Dufour, Ovide Simard, Jean Bte. Simard, Fred-ac Cote, Mederic Bouchard and Z^phirin
Guillenic't. The Court adjourns till the 7th September.
7tli Srjili'iiihn-, 1870.
The Judge and parties being present, the Respondent examhies : Ananias Renaud,
J. Bte. Keiiaud, Alfred Lavoie, Epiphane Guillemet, Fran(;ois Tremblay, Augusto Dufour,
100 Nareisse Dassilva, Nazaire lierube, Ferdinand Bouchard, Frs. Dalaire, Onezime Tremblay,
Ignace Cuellet and Thomas Savard. The Court adjourns till the 8th September.
ail S,-iit)'iiih('i; 1870.
The Judge and parties being present, the Respondent examines: Alexander Murray,
Joseph (iuay, John Chamanl, Jules Trndelle and the Rev. Mr. Cinq Mars whose deposition
is adjourned to the iJtli Septmnber.
lJ//i SqUeiiilia; 1870.
The Jd.lgu iiiiil piirtius hoiiig prcst'iit, lliu (ixamiuatiou of Rev. Mr. C'iiui Miirs
is cuiitiiiucil. lichiniiuk'iit fjlcs iiu iiilmissiou of lu'oof, iJciiusitioii coiitiiuit'd to the
nth September, 1870.
170 ll//( Sfjih'iiihT, 1870.
The .Jii(l},'e iiuil piirties being present, the oxiiiuuiutiou uf the llev. Mr. Chu\ Mar»
i.s proeeoih'il with iiiid adjourrftd till tlie Tilh September, 1870.
12th Sejilfiiiher, 1870.
Tlii! Jmlge iuul parties being pr^'seut, L. S. I'erraiilt is examined as a witness
on Uw part of the Hespoudeut. The Petitioners examine the following witness lit
iyIiiiIIiiI : Uonriald 'iagiie. Court adjonrns till the 13th September.
ISth Sfplfiiihn; 1870.
The Judge and parties being present, the Petitioners examine the following
witnesses in nbnltal : Siiraphin Lajoie, Joseph McLean, E. Danais, Z6phiriu Savavd
180 and Eusibe Martel. The Respondent examines Israel Tarte and in irlndtal, and to
Petitioners evidence ('/( icbullul examines L. S. Perrault.
I'llli Sipteiiiher, 1870.
The Judge being present on the bench. Tlie parties are hoard on the merits of
tlio case. Case (taken (■(( lUtilwri.) reserved.
15M Sqitemher, 1870.
Judgment delivered on the merits. F.on. Judge Routhier. (Judgment C.)
Tlic Petitioners fylo an inscription for review before the Supremo Couit, having
previously deposited ui the hands vi the Prothonotary the sum of one hundred and ten
dollars.
1 (\(\ '28tk Sovemher, 1870.
The Prothonotary of this Court, completes and sends to the address of the
Registrar of the Supremo Court the record in this ease, tigcther with copies of the
depositions of the witnesses, prepared hi conformity with 32 Vic, ch. 10, sec. 29.
The whole forwarded by mail.
[true copy.]
CHS. DUBERGER,
1'. C. 9., D. S.
CANADA. )
PROVINCE OF QUEBEC. I
•dUU DUMcl of fiiujiienaij. )
IN THE SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
Election for a Memher of the JlDime nf Vommoitu of Canaila, for the Kleetoral Di.'<liict af
(Viarlcnn.r, Imhleii mi the- Fifteiiith Ihiij nf Jaimarii fir the wimiiKitimi iif the ediuliihiten,
ami III! the Tieeiitij-Seedtid Ihiij nf January for the retinal, in the year One Thoimund FAyht
Hundred and Seeenti/-Si.c,
Tlic IVtitioii of tho uiulersigncd, Oii(:a Bbassard, of tho Parish of St. Etienue do la
Malbaie, aiid IIkmry J3i,ackuurn, also of tho Pariah of St. Etieuuo do la Malbaio, Farniors:
1 . Your Petitioners arc parties who had a right io vote at the said election.
2. Your Potitioiicrs allege that the said election was liolden, on tho above-named
210 dates, in the judicial district of Suguenay, and that Pierre Alexis Tremblay, of tho Parish of
St. Ktienne do la Malbaie, Esquire, Surveyor; and the Honorable Uootor Louis Langovin,
of the City of Quebec, Advocate; were, then and there, didy nominated as candidates; that
the Keturniug OlHcer has declared and returned as duly elected tho Honorable Hector Louis
Langovin, and that tho return and tho election of the said Honorable Hector Louis
Langevin were duly published in the Canada Uuietle, pubhshed under authority, on
tho lifth day of February instant.
8. Your Petitioners state that the said Honorable Hector Louis Langevin was
thus elected and returned as elected, in virtue of a w-rit of election addressed to Charles
Duberger, Esipiire, of tho parish of St. Etieuuo de la Malbaie, Registrar, which said
220 ^'^'''i '^-^ ^* appears on tho face of it, was hi fact issued in the month of August last ;
that at the time the said writ was issued, there was no vacancy of tho seat at tho said
House of Commons of Canada for the said electoral district of Charlevoix, and therefore
no writ for an election for the said electoral district could issue ; that tho said writ
and the issuing of said writ are null and void ; that no election could and can
ha" 9 taken place under said writ, and therefore the election and the return of said
n(uioral)le Hector Louis Langovin as member elected wore and aro absolutely null
and void.
3. (a) Your Petitioners state also, that tho said Honorable Hector Louis Langevin
was not duly nominated accorc^' to law as a candidate for the said election, not
230 liikving been duly nominated as a candidate according to law, by producing to the
Returning Officer within tho time allowed, a nomination paper signed by at least
twenty-live electors, together with a consent in writing by the said Honorable Hector
Louis Langovin, and a deposit of a sum of fifty dollars with tho Returning Otiicer
as reijuired by law, and therefore the election and the return of tho said Honorable
Hector Louis Langevin, as meiubur uleclcd, Were and aro absolutely null and void.
8
I. Yoii, I>,.titi(>norn furtlior Hiiy; Tim ■ the rime . „■ said olection, IhUh
"'"^ '"•' l"'"<'y. tlio Mii.l ir.monil.K. U.TU.r I .., huusovin wa>, w(junlifled imd iiicivpi.Mi.
of lM.i,i;,r ,,l,,et(.,l a i,u.|iil».i' of flu.. sui,l U„usi, ,. „oim of Cnh„.liv, kuiy i!tv of hih I'
II fomliict lis t.. make him mnvortliy to sit in the said IIouso of Comm- 'Imt in tli
240 .will' on., tlioiisiuid ci-ht h.nidral aiu\ Hovonty-two tlio Hiiitl Jlouonihl (ctor Loin
Liiii«cvin wiiH ,1 nu'inhvv of tlio I'rivy CoiiiiWl for Cum.la .m.l as siiclj h, h.id tiikou ii ,
oath to adviso Uw Majesty to tho h,.,st of his al.ility and dis,-.Ttion. for th,. honor of lUv
^rM.i.■.ty and for tho piddle good, without any partiality and to avoid eomiption ; that wi
the said yoar ono thousand u'-ht hundred and suwiity-two hein;,' called upon, in his' capacity
of a nicmbor of the I'rivy C<.uncil of H.r MujeMy for Cainida, to advise Ilor Majesty
with ref.Tonco to tho grantin- of a Charter for th., construction of tho Pacific llaihvay of
Canada, he, thi, said Hoiiorahle L.iuis [ian^'evin, entir.ly failed t.) do what he had promised
to <l., l.y his said oath ; that iiist.'ad of advising' Her Miijesty to tho best of his al.ility for tho
public f,'"".l and the honor of the Crown and witluuit corruption, lio all.nved liimself
250 to b,. corrupted by Sir Ilu^di Allan, of the City of Montreal, kni-ht, and merchant, who was
solieiiin^' the tyrant of th,. sai.l charter, and in consideration of the sum of thirty-two
th.aisaial .lollars which tho said Sir Hush Allan promised and t,'avo him, Jie und.;rtook to
a.lvis,. the Crown t,. grant the said charter to tho said Bir Iln-h Allan, and this contrary
to what tho honor of Her :Majcsty ami the public good rcpured ; that histead of avoiding
corruption, as ho was obliged by his said oath of otlice to do, tho said Honorable
IIect.)r Jiouis Langevin was accessory to tho corruption practiced by Sir Hugh Allan, who
employed a sum excee.ling one him.h-ed ami fifty thousand d.dlars to corrupt tho electors
of the Dominion of Camula at tho general elections that took place in tlio said year ono
thousand eight Imndred and seventy-two ; an.l, that, thoroforo tho dectiou and return
200ofth.; said Ilou.aabl.. Hector L..uis Langevin as member elected wore and are absolutely
null ami void.
C. Your I'etitioners further state : That at tlie said election, before, during and
after the same the said Honorable llect.ir Louis Langevin by himself as well as by his agents
and other i.artios for him and on his behalf, with ami without his knowledge and consent,
was guilty of bribery and thereloro the e!ecti.)n ami tho return of Honorable Hector Louis
Lai geviii as member elected were and are absolutely null and void.
(>. Your Tetitioners further say : That at tho said elostion, before, durirg and
after the same, the said Hector Louis Langevin, by himself as well as by h.'s agents and
other persons for him and on his behalf, with and without his knowledge and consent, was
270 K'lilty of the oiTenco of treating, and that therefore tho election and rotui'ii of the said
Honorable Hector Louis Langevin wore and are absolutely null and void.
7. Your Petitioners iurtlier say : That at the said election, before, during and after
the same, the said Honorable H.'ch.r Louis Langevin by himself as wtdl as by his agents and
other persons acting for him and on his behalf, with and^without his knowledge and consent,
was guilty of tho ofl'enco of undue intluenco and made use of spiritual and temporal
intimidation, and that therefore tho election and return of the said Honorable Hector Louis
Laiigevm were and are absolutely null and void.
'.. ■ . ■ St. -i-rr- ^,. ~ii mti m , .M , ■i - > wrM i«aiawi^MWfc^—4w
!
9
H. V.,m' I'rtilionor.i farilier Htato ; Tlmt ivt tlin naid uloction, boforo iiiul .luring tlio
Ham.', tliu Hiii 1 llimoraMo l[,,U,v Louis La„Ki'vi... by liiinH..!f an well as l.y Imh a-..utrai„l
2hO oil,..,- p„rm)ns acting for liini and ou his bthalf. witli aii.l witliout his KmowI.uI,,'.. aa.l
e(,i.s,iil, in Kuilty of huviiiK on.k.avonr.ul, iiuluce.l, cou.ihi.H..,! a,,,! lauihtatwl the ruoaas
of lUTNouH to tvo'riiit tl... otrcneo of i.^rsonntioii ; ami tiiat th.nl.y th.' .I.ctio,, ,„„1 nt.tn, of
Uip Haul Honor. i,]v llwitoi- Louis Laii-.'viii wno and aiv ul.MihiU ly nitU and void.
!). Vour IN.Utionris >tato tlmt lu^foru, dunn« mid after .aid .h.rtion the said
lluonrahlr llrctor l.,aiis Ja.M-uvin by liiiasulf as wol! as by liiH aK.a.ts and other porsons
lor hn,i and on his h.half, witii.and without his icnowlml^u and consent, is guilty of hirinfj,
l>roini-!ng to pay, and paying' for horses, teams, carriages, cal.s and other veliich's to
eunvey ejeetors to and from (he polln, or to or from tiie neigidxuhood of the said p(dls
^^ and iiaying travelhng and otiier expenses of a threat mimi.er of .lectors incurred l.y said
-90 dectorii in K..ing to and returning from the said .lection, and that th.'r.f.ro the said
election and the return of the said ll.uioral.lu Hector Louis Lang.'vln as mond)er elected
were and aii' absolut.Iy null an.l vuid.
10. Ynnr Petitioners state that at, before, .lunng an,l alt.i' said election, a general
syst.'m of bribery, of treating, of nn.la.> mdnence, of nitinii.lation by spiritual and
temporal tlnvats, of pers..nation, of inducnig pers.ais to c.nnniit personation, of hiring
vehieies to conv. y voters to and from th.' |m,11s, .,f payment of travelling oxp.'nses of el.ctors
hi going to or r.lurning from Miid electi.ai, ..f all kimls of corrupt and illegal practices, was
ex.Tci ,e 1 in the inter.st <d' the candidature of tlio said Honorable H.<ctor L.)uis Langevin
and that tli- :,:iid gc iieral M-l.ni of corrupt practices was inten.led to and did in fact undidy
,S00 inllu' nee a great number of .lecbirs to vote agahist the said Pierre Alexis Tremblav and in
favor of th.' said H.morable Hector Louis Langevin, or to prev.-nt them fr.nn v.iting, an.l
that in conso.pience of the said general .system (jf c.irni|.t praetic.s, the el.ct.a's of tho
said elechiral district were deia-ived of free.lom of acti.ai, an.l tliat the said election instoatl
of being the result of tho free exercise of th.- will of tho people, was but the result of
illegal practic.'s employed in favor of the candidature of th> said Hector Louis Lang.'vin,
an.l, theivf.a-e, the saul electi.ai and the return of the said Hoiairable Hector Louis
Langevin were an.l are absolutely null ami void.
IL Your Petitioners .state: That at tho said electi.ai, the said Honorable Hector Loui^
Langevin personally engaged as agents and canvassers in re.itiru to the said el.cti.m,
310 'lif'^wt l'"''^"»s. who. withhi eight years pivvious to such eiigag ment by the said H.etor
Loiii.-. Laiigivin ha.l been, and wli.. to the liiiowle.lge of th.i said 11. ctor Louis Langevin had
lie.'n found guilty of cu'rujil [a'actic.'--, by the r.'port of the ju.lges who a.lju.lica.'^d in appeal
on the pitition complaining of the return of the said Pierre Alexis Tremblay, Es.piiro,
f.)i- the said electoral district of Cliarlovoix, in >Taiiuary, one thousand eight hundred
and sev.'iity-four, and also by the report of tho Judge who tried in tho first instance
the sai.l p.titi.m; am.aigst whom, wore: OiK-sime Gauthier .Ut Larouclio, of the
parish of St. Urbain, mining agent, and Member of the Legislative Assembly of
Quebec for the said elect.u'al district of Charlevoix, and that therefore the election
and return of the said Honorable Hector Louis Laugo\iu were and are absolutely
'620 null and void.
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Wherefore your PetitionerB pray that it bo declared that the .said Honorable Hector
Lou. Langcvn, was not duly elected and returned as Member elected, and that tl e d
ct:on and re urn, n. so far as it relates to the said Honorable Hector Louis L gev^
were and are absolutely null and void; that it bo declared that the said Honorable Hecto;
Lotus Langovn, was guilty of corrupt practices, by himself and by others, .vith n
knowledge and consent; lastly, that it be ordered that the said Honorable H ctJ Lou
•n of those which the Petitioners will be subjected to by reason of this petition.
330
F. LANGELIER,
Atturncij for Petitioners.
Malbaie, 2l8t February, 1876.
OSEE BEASSARD,
HENRY BLACKBURN.
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PROVINCE OF QUEBEC. [ bUrilRlOH COURT.
Distrkt of Stujannay. j
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
34U
No. 14.
EU'ctimi of a Mcmhrr for llu Jlonnf of Coinmoii.t/or the F.lectoml Dklrul of Cltarlevinx.
BRASSARD et al.,
Petitioners;
AND
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Defendant.
1, the iiuJersif^'iiocl, in my capacity of Defendant's Attorney, do elect my domicile at
the ollice of Joauph L. Perrault, Estjuire, Advocate, in the Village of Malbaie.
H. CYRIAS PELLETIER,
Attorney far Defendant.
St. Etienne ok Malbaie, (Jth March, 1876.
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350 (..ANADA. )
E OF QUEBEC, V
Diltrkt of Saguenuy. }
rilOVINCE OF QUEBEC,
SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
No. 14.
J\li'rU(in (ij\i Mfiiilii'f fur tint IJdiixi' 11/ CoinmoiiK/nr tin' Klivloral District of Charlevoix.
OSEE BEASSAllD et al.,
Petitioners ;
AMD
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN, C. B.,
360 ' Defendant.
I appear for the Defeudaut in this cause.
H. CYKIAS PELLETIER,
Attorney for Defemlaat
Malbaie, March, 1876.
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CANADA,
PROVINCE OF gUKJJEC,
DUtnft 0/ S<iiiiii 11(11/,
SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
No. 14,
OlQ Hhrlioii of a Memha- for the lions,' of Commons for the fUectoral District, of Charlevoix,
OSEE BRASSARD, et al.,
Petitioners,
lIo.N. II. L. LANCiEVIN, C.B.,
Defemlant.
Honorable Hector Louis Laiigvviu, of tlio City of Quebec, Advocate, dafenclant,
in answer to the election petition fyled in this case, say.s by his preliminary objections
or grounds of insuilicicncy ngaiiist the said petition, luid specially against the fourth
paruKi'aith of the same, that the allej^'ations made in the said petition and hi said paragraph
.380 are iusudicient in fact and in law, and that the matters therein alleged cannot bo proved
before this Honorable Court for th(! following among other reasons .
Because the paragraph which roads as follows :
" Your Petitioners further say : that at the time of the said election, before and
subse(piently, the said IIoiiDvablo Hector Louis Langevm was disqualified and hicapable of
being elected a member of the said House of Commons of Canada, being guilty of such
conduct as to make him uuwortliy to sit in the said House of Commons ; that in the yeax
one tlnnisand eight hundred and soventy-two the said Honorable Hector Louis Langeviu was
a membi'r of the Privy Couucil for Canada, and as sucli he had taken nn oath to advise Her
Majesty to the best of his ability and discretion, for the houor of her JIajesty and for the
390 public good without any partiality and to avoid corruption ; that in the said year one
thousand eight hundred and stveuty-two being called upon, in his capacity of a member of
the Privy Council of Her ilajesty for ('aiiada to advise Her Majesty with reference to the
granting of a charter lor the construction of the Pacific Railway of Canada, he, the said
Honorable Hector Louis Langovin, entirely failud to do what ho had promised to do by his
said oath ; that instead of advising Her Majesty to the best of his ability for the public good
and the honor of the Crown and without corruption, he allowed himself to be corrupted by Sir
Hugh Allan of the City of Montreal, knight and merchant, who was soliciting the grant of
the said charter, and in consideration of the sum of thirty-two thousand dollars which the
said Sir Hugh Allan promised and gave him, he undertook to advise the Crown to grant the
400 said charter to the said Sir Hugh Allan, and this contrary to what the honor of Her
Miijusty and the public good required ; that instead of avoiding corruption, as ho was
obliged by his said oath of office so to do, the said Honorable Hector Louis Langeviu was
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accossory to the corniptioii pnicticud by Sii- IlugL Allan, who eiuployed a sum cxccGding
one hmulred iiud fifty tlioiiHiind dolliira to corrnpt tho cloctors of tlio Dominion o]
Canada, at tho general nluetioiis that took place in tho said year ouo thousand eight hundred
and seventy-two, and that therefore the election and return of the Haid Honorable
Hector Louis Laugovin an member elected, were and are absolutely null and void."
has reference to facts which are entirely irrelevant to tho matter [eniidnii,-) of the election
in question.
410 Because tl.r allegatious of the said paragraph can only raise a (luestion of privilege,
of which only the ilouse of Commons of Canada has tho right to take cognizance.
Because it appears by the petition itself, that the facts alleged in tho said para-
graph occurred four years before tho election and have no connection therewith.
Because the allegatious of the said paragraph do not justify tho conclusions
thereui reduced.
Because tho said petition is informal and irregular in all its parts, and especially
Ml the allegations of tho said fourth paragraph.
Wherefore the defendant moves for the rejection of the said petition, and applies
m any case for the striking o-.t and laying aside of the said fourth paragraph before
4ii0 the production of any evidence upon the merits of the petition, the whole with costs
against tho Petitioners,
Maluaie, 7tli March, 187G.
H. CYPEIAS PELLETIER.
DcfenJant's Attorm-y,
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From tho Jwirml d« Quebec, lOtli March, 187(1.
IN TUE SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINKJN CONTBOVKRTED ElEOTIONB AoT, 1874.
430
Cmtestatian of the eleclian oj the Hon. Hector LouU Lan.e.in ^r the Electoral District
of Vfuirlevoix.
4tli March, 1876.
Gh8. Duberoer, Esq.,
CIIS. DUBERGER,
Returniiu) Officer.
Quebec, 11th March, 1876.
Tok. Cote & Co.,
Prhiter.s and Publishers,
440 i87g Upper Town, Place .I'Armes
March 10. One notice published in the Journal de Quebec, viz :—
Contestation of tho election of Hon. II. L. Langeviu, 221. It i 7«
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From tl.o Qmbtc 0(/icial fln.etle, 1 Itli M.ircJi. 1870.
iN THE .SUl'EUIOK COUIJT.
Dominion 'Jontiiovkutki. Kleution» Act, 1870.
of (Jhitrlevoix.
I.!"!;!!.;!!""'' «'"" "'■ ^'" ''"'^''-"-- — '-« to law. of the CO
foregoing electiou,
460
4th March, 1870.
Ch8. Duueroer, Esq.,
contostatioii of tlu'
CllH. DUBERGER,
Keturnimj Officer.
No. 1081-2
Office of the Queen's Printer,
QiJEUEu, 11th March, 1870.
To The Queen's Printer, Dr.
For publication in the 0£icial Gazette:—
Publication of notice of conte.stati-, of the election of Hon. Mr | i
460 Laiigoviii for Charlevoix. ,•• ' '
Translation at 15 cts. pur 100 w '
Gazette, 15 cts
Postage
Unra.
10
10
Inser-
tiuns.
1
1
$ CtH.
1 28
1 28
00
08
2 80
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From the Quebec Mercury, lOth March, 1876,
SUPEEIOli COU^tT.
The Dominion Contkovkutkd Elections Act, 187.1.
ComsUUion of the election of the Hon. Hector Louis Lauycviafor the Electoral District
of Charlevoix.
470 I'ublie Notice ..s hereby .-iven of tlie pubhcation, accordbg to law. of the contestation
01 tiie above election.
4th March, 1870.
Oils. DUBERfiER,
Returning Officer.
Quebec, March 10th, 187G.
480
Retuknino (Jkhcer, CuAKLEvora Election,
To Geo. T. Carey,
Daily Mercury Newspaper and General Printuig Office.
March loth, 1870. To adv. contestation of election, 80 lines, 1 ins $2 40
Quebec, 11th March, 1876.
Ch8. Duberokr, Returning Officer,
ft
To Tarte & Desjardino,
Proprietors and Publishers of the Canadien.
For advortising-In the Superior Court-Notice of the contestation of the election of
$3 00
Honorable H. L. Langeviu, 30 lines, 1 ins. at 10 cts.
S
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DISTRICT OF KAGUENAY. | CI TniTO t^ r. r
'•} SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
(). HKASHARI) ET AL.,
490
Petitioners;
vs.
'Ion. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Dejhidant.
We inscribe tliis cause, bv conspnf r,>, i , .
obioctiousib. the twentieth M;>:Lir;;;;!' ' '"' '*'^"''"« "^°" "''' ^^^^^^
^Iai.baik, Marcli 17tli, lH7(i.
500
F. LANGELIER,
Attorney Jor Petitioners.
H. ClTvIAS PELLETIER,
Attorney for Defendant.
Quebec, 18tb Marclj, 1870,
C. DUBEKGER, Esq.,
Malbaie,
It is made by consent and as a matter of form.
Truly yours.
510
F. LANGELIER.
Chs. Duberoeu, Esq., Returning Officer,
Murray Bay,
Quebec.
To John .7. Foote,
Proimotor of the Morning Chronicle, Dr.
For adverti.soTiiont^, Ac. as under-
March 1 1th. 1870. Notice respecting contestation of Hon. H. L. Langevin's election
1 insertion, 83 linos
$2 04
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CANADA.
PEOVINCE OF QUEBEC,
620 Dintrict ■^f Saguenay.
1
IN THE SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
Malbaie, nth May, 1876.
IN CHAMBERS.
Present :— Hon. A. 13. Huutiiier, J. S. C.
No. 11
l)SEE BRASSARD k.t. ai,.
J'elitioners ,
VB.
Hon. H. L. L ANGEVIN,
Defendant.
530 Thu Cuuii having licard the Petitioiiura and the Deffndant m this cause by their
rospoctivo advocatos, upon the prclimiiiaiT obj.'ction.s made by the Defendant to a certain
part of the election petition fylod in this cause, that is to say to the fourth paragraph of
the said petition wliicli reads as foWows : —
Your Petitioners further allege : that at the time of the said election before and since
the said Honorable Hector Louis Langevin, was disquaUfied and incapable of being elected
a member of the Said House of Commons of Canada, having been guilty of conduct wliich
rendered liim unworthy to sit in the said House of Commons ; that in the year one thousand
eight hundred and seventy-two, the said Honorable Hector Louis LangMvln was one of the
members of Her Majesty's Privy Council for Canada, that as such he had sworn to advise
540 Her Majesty to the best of liis al)ility and discretion for the honor of Her Majesty and
the public good, without any partiality and to avoi,l corruption ; that in the said year
eighteen hundred ai.ul seventy-two, being called upon in his said capacity of member of Her
M°ijesty-s Privy Council for Canada, to advise Her Majesty with rcf-rence to the granting of a
eliarter for the con^■tructiou of the Canadian Pacific Railway, the said Hon. Hector Louis Lan-
govin completrly failed to do that which by his sai.l oath 1 e had promised ; that instead of
advisin- Her Majesty to the best of his ability for the public good and the honor of the crown
and without corruption he allowed himself to be corrupted by Sir Hugh Allan, of the City of
Montreal, knight and merchant, who was seeking a grant of the said charter, and in con-
siderati..!! of the sum of thirty-two thousand six huneUed dollars which were promised and
- nn give.i to him by the said Sir Hugh Allen, he undertook to advise the crown to grant the said
'charter to the' said Sir Hugh Allan, contrary to what the honor of Her Majesty and the
public "ood demanded : tlmt instead of avoiding corruption as by his said oath oi office
he was bound to do, the said Honorable Hector Louis Langevhi became a party to the cor-
ruption practised by the said Sir Hugh Allan, who applied a sum of over three hundred and
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lil'ty tliouHiiutl dollars to uornipt the electors of the Domiuioii of Cauiula, at the general
elections for the said House of Commons, which took place in the saiil year eighteen hundred
and seventy-two, and that therefore the election and tlie return of the election of the said
Honorahlc H. L. Langoviu were and are absolutely null and void in view of the proceedings.
Whereas, the facts alleged in the said paragraph by the Petitioners do not constitute
5(50 in law a cause of disqualification or inelligibility as against the Defendant, and cannot in
any way affect the legality or validity of his election, nor justify the conclusions of the said
petition, we maintain the preliminary objections of the Defendant in so far as relates to the
allegations of the petition above cited, and set aside the said fourtli paragraph of the said
election petition with costs.
[tri;k copy.]
C. P. S. DUBERGER,
I
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D18T1UCT OF SAOUENAY.
} SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVKRTED ELEOTIONS ACT, 1874.
570
CUAKLKVOIX El.KCTION.
(). BKASSAill),
/'liitidlli'f,
Hon, II. L. LANGEVIN,
Dcffinlant.
The parties in this cause agree tliat the trial of the petition in this cause do take
place at the Court House, in the Parish of 8t. Etieiine do la Malhaie, and do commence on
the third of July next, at ten o'clock in the morning.
Malbaie, 7th June, 1870.
580
F. LANGELIER.
.Ulortu'ij Jul- PlaintijI'.
II. CYRIAS PELLETIER.
Atlanu'!/ for Defendant.
>)>)
< 'ANA DA,
i'i<ov.NTK„FQrK,u.:c,' IN THE SUPERIOR COURT.
IMflii't (it'Sii'juiiiiiy. I
DOMINION (JONTROVKRTKD ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
Kl.UlTnl'AI, DmillCT l)K (Jll.UtLKVOIX.
t) JillAHSAUD.
590
I'flili'iiur
v«.
Hon. II. L, LANGEVIN,
Pifi'iiilant.
Mi)tii)ii on l)flmlt' of tlic DL'fi.'Uiliuil that the Pctitioiici's lie oiijoined to iluposit nt the
oHic'c <it' the Sii[it'iior Court, at tin! Court Housf! at St. I'Jtii'iiiK! <lu' In Malhaio, uiul to 'supply
till! Di'fciidaiit oil oi- 1). foro tlio tliirtii'th Juno iiiHtiiiit. with full and coiniileto piirticulars of
iill llio allc^'atious of tliat petition and aiaoiii,' others : —
l.st. .Vs to parai^'rapli live of the said jn'tition, thn iinmcs, suniaint's mid addresses of
all porhoiis wlio U'lmuiitlrd acts of hrihcry, di-tin^'uishing tlio.se who hribfd other ])er-
(]()() soii'i and those who allowc 1 tlu'insilvi'h to he lailifd, or whom it was attciupled ti bribe,
and t,'ivin^' the [ilaec and dato of caeli of tlh' said acts of bribery.
■2nd. Af to paragraph si.K of the said petition, the immes, surnames and addresses of
eii 'i and iv.'ry person who uoniiiiitted the act called treatin.L'. distinguishing^ those who
ti'eiited from those who were treated, with the date iind place of each act.
.'h'd. .\s to paragraph seven, the names, surnani<s and addresses of all por.sous guilty
of uiuhie inHuenei. spiritual and t"iii|.oral iiitimihition, and when and where such undue
iiiilueiice, spiritual and temporal intimidation, was exirci^ed, or wlieo and where it was
attempted to exercise tlu' same and on what persons, with the names, surnames and addresses
of tlie per.sons upi>n whom such undue inllii'iu- ■ \\:is exercised, dv upon whom it was at-
(ilO teiiqded to exercise the same; in ti e second place, upon what class of lursons such undue
inllueiiee was exia'ci-id, or it wa^ uislu'd or attempted to exercise such unihie iutluence, with
as exact a descripticj;! as pos>il)le of the class of persons, and showirg in relation to each e '
the nature and character of the undue uilluence, and wjuther umhie mlluence purely a. i
simply or spiritual intimidation or temporal inthuidation is in question.
•1th. As to paragraph eight of tht! said petition, each act of personati(ai, with the
names surnames and addresses of the persons who were guilty of that offence, either by
committing the act or by aidhig, ])roeunng, counseUhig and facilitating the commission of
that offence, with the place and date of each offence.
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•Itli. \h t<i piirunnipli iiino, tho naiw*, huioiiiiii.'h and iuMi-chsoh of nil |)<T'ionn iin'n-
620 tiDiiril III llu' caid jiiini;,'1'ii|)li hh hu'.iuf,' liired luirHOs, liiirnr-^, rMrriiii.'('s, ciilis, mid otlii-r
VI I^U'I('^<, (mid or i>roiiiisod tn (my for 'm uso thereof, i)iiid the IniVi lliiig expenses iiiid I'dior
di»ljurMfiii('iit^> of liny elector, iiieiilioii i„ in},' iniiilij of till' iliitr luid plat'o of oiicli oflfence uiid
of llie imiiiiM, siirnaiufs and addrcssos of eueli eleetor meiitiniieil in tlic naid parajji'ttph. •
lllli. Ah to |iivni;.!ni|di tiii, eiicli lut wliieli Inn not lieeii already ntiitod as it ]>!irtieular
in relation to tlii! |)reu ' lin„' iiarii^MMplis, and wliirli the IVlilioiier-i pro^niM,. to pi .vo in order
to -.liow a nenoriil syhtein of iuih.iy; a jji'norul Hyntoiu of nets called treat iii;^; a ff'ix'i'ivl
sysleiii of acts culled inidui inllii' sice ; a i^'eiierul sy-tein of temporal intiniidiition ; a ;^oupml
Hy.steni ol spiritual intiiiiidation ; a ^'eiieral Hy«teiii of personation ; a j,'eiiei-e.l Hyntcm of
Huhornation ; ii i,'cneral »y.stt'ni of corrupt pnictices, with tlio naiDcs and addrosHUM of
0,'}() tho per-oiis who praotic(s the Maine or upon whom thoy wen; practici 1, and when such
iict.s weri' practiced, dlstiiii^uishini,' whollier allii--ion in made I ' an individual or to a claH.s
of persons, and in such latter easii to furnish as uxaot a description as possilile of the elass
of persons upon wli nil such acts were ju'iictice 1, with the place and date of eacli of tho
said acts.
7tli. As to paiiif^'raph eleven, the iiaiiies, Hurnanii's and nddres.is of thn several
jiersoiiH eiaployi.'d hy the Defendant as a^'eiils anil canvassers, iind wh i, ''..iriiig the eii:^ht
yearH procceduig tlu'ir eiiiiiloyiiieiit had hei n, mid whom tho DcfeiidaL ; hm \. had lieeii,
found i.'uill.v ' '■ '•' I'riipt |iructices mid so reported.
8 a. Ati 10 ah acts in the aforesaid parai,'raphs of the said petition which (ho Petitioners
(j^Q propose ;o !!^Tve. to /i.o without exception a coiiijiletc stateincnt as to whether such act
waH com. litu I le.fi'i'i the issue of tho writ of election, during' the election, on tho lay of
noiniiialion. -i \]:<. i ay of poUintf, after the pol'imi,', with the place where such a ' was
commitljd, Ui.d tlio date as nearly as possible of each act.
!)lh. That furt'iei, mi order do issue to tho I'etitiwuers that no proof shall ho made of
any tact, of any (dijection which shall not havo been spociticd iu tho said particulars, tho
whole with costs iiLjainst the Petitioners.
(%,„v/,) 11. CVKIAS PKLLETIEU,
' Altorunj for Di'/endant.
To F. LANCiELlEll, Esq.,
j)5() Alloriiei/ J'lif Petitioners.
SiK, — Take notice on tho twentieth Juno instant, at ton o'clock in tho foronoon, or as
soon tlip'i'ealter as t^ounsel may be heard, tiie t'orogoing motion wdl ho made on helialf of
the Uefeiidant before one of tho Uonorable .Tud;^es of this Court, at the Court House at
St. Etieiiie do la .Malbaio, District of Sa;,'uenay, sitting iu Chambers according to Law.
Male.ue, 12th June, 1870.
H. CYRIAS PELLETIER,
♦ Attorney fur Defendant.
CANADA.
rROVIXCE OF QUEBEC.
but) District of Sdijiicriay.
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SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS A.CT, 1874.
Malbaie, 20tli Juno, 1870.
Presknt, FIdn. a. B. Bouthier, J. S. C,
No. n.
OSEE BllASSABD et al.,
Petitioners,
vs.
Hon. 11. L. LANGEVIN,
ife/eiidant.
Tin. parties h.tving boon lioanl on the motion of the DofondHnt for particulars, wo
b , grant the ,suh1 nuH^n with costs, and the Petitioners are in conse.juonce enjoined to depo.sit
". the on,ee <,1 tins Court and to supply the .defendant, on or before the first July next, with
me tollownig partieuhirs, tliat is to say :—
Lst. As to paragraph tive of the said petition tlie names, surnames and nddressess of
all persons who connnitled acts of bribery, disting.ashing those who brd.od other
persons, and those who allowed themselves to b. bribed or whon> it was attempted to
l)ribe, and givnig the place and date of udi of the said acts of bribery.
2n,l. As to paragraph six of the said petition the names, surnames and addresses of
each and every pers„n who e,.mmitted the act callo.l treating, distinguislung those who
treate.l from tho.-^o who were treated, wilh the date and place of eacli act.
080 ■*'■''• As (o paragraph seven, the names, surnames and addresses of all persons
gTiilty ot undue, .nlluence, spiritual and temporal intimidation. u,id when and where such
undue mthuM.ce, spiritual and temporal intimidation was exereis..!, or when and whore it
was attempted to exercise the same, and .m wluit persons, with the names, surnames and
addresses ol the persons upon whom such undue inlhu.nce svas exercised, or upon whom it
was attempted to exercise the same ; ni tlie s..cond place, upon what chiss of persons such
undue influence was exercised or it uas wished or attempted to exercise su-h undue
• mtluence, with as exact a description as possible of the cla>s of persons, and showin.^ in
relation to each act the nature and character of the undue inilueuce and whether uiuluo
mliuence purely and simply, „r spiritual intimidation or temporal intimidation is in
690 'I'l^'^tion.
■Ith. As to paragraph eiglit of the said p, fition, each act of personation, with the
names, smnames and addn^sses of tlie persons who were guilty of that oflence, either by
comnuttmg th,. act or by aiding, procuring, counselling and facilitating the commission of
that (itlence. with the place and date of each offence.
^Ji^jg^
KAisaamuMm
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otic. As to piU-iigniiih iiiao, tin iiiinu's, stinmincs mid iiil(lrcs,,c's i>i nil persons iiien-
tiouwl in the siiiil piiragiiiiph as havnij,' liirnl Iioi-m'.,, lianu'ss, caiTia,L,'os, cals ami other
V(;liick>s, piiiil or pruniiscd to pay for tlif use thcrei;!', pai.l the frawllin^' (ixpi'Uscs ami other
(lisburscniL'uts of any I'lct'tor, im<iitiou bcin^' niailf of the dati' au,l i)!ac.' of (•acli olleuee and
ot the names, ^^urnames and addresses oi eaeh elector mentioned in thi' said pan^'raph.
700 *'•''• ■^" *" riiia<;raph ten, each ait wlneh has not lieeii ;d''eady stated as a purlietilar
ill relation to the prec'din'^' paragraphs, and whieh tlio Petitioners propose in order to show
a ;;eneral system of corruption, a <,'eueral system of acts called treating, a general system of
acts called midiie inlhience, a general system of temporal intimidation, a general system of
spiritual intimidation, ii general system of personation, a general system of .subornation, a
general system of corrupt practiia-s, with the names and addressos of the persons who
l)racticed the same or upon whom they were practiced, and when such acts were practiced,
distinguishing whether allusinu Ih made to an individual or to a class of persons, and in such
latter case, to furnish as exact a description of the ela>s of persons upon whom such acts
were practiced, with the place and date of each of the said acts.
710 "ill- As to (>ai'agrapli eleve!i, the names, surnames and addresses of the several persons
emi)l()yrd by the Defendant as agents and eanva.-.sers, and who, during the eight yi'ars
preeeiling their employment, had been, and whom the Defendant knew had been found
guilty of corrupt practices and so reported.
8tii. As to all acts ^u the aforesaid paragraphs of the said petition whieh the Petitioners
propose to prove, to give without exception a complete statement as to whetlevr siudi act was
committed before the issue of the writ of election, during the election, on the day of nomina-
tion, on the day of polling, after the i)olliiig, with the place whei-e such act was committed,
and the date, as nearly as possible, of each act. And it is further declared that no proof
will be admitted of any fact which sliall not have been specified in the said particulars, unless
7'20 it is v.iili the iiermissioii of the Court.
!TtU-K eeU'V.
CH8. DUBE15GEK,
p. a. c. i>. s.
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DI8TRICT OF SAGUENAY ) DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS
' ACT, 1874.
Charlevoix Election.
0. BRASSARD et al.
Pi'titionora
AND
Till-, Hon. II. L. LANGEVIN,
730
Ih'fendant,
Motion, on tho piirt of Petitioners, that au order Jo issue to the Clerk of the Crown
in Chancery for tlie Dominion of Canaaa, to transmit witliout delay to Charles Duhergor,
Esquii'o, Prothonotaryofthis Coiu't at Malbaio, all tho books, lists, commissions, certiticates,
statements, papers, documents, and reports whatsoever, relating to the last election, for the
electoral district of Charlevoix, of a member to represent the said district in the House of
Commons of Canada, the said documents having been returned to tho said Clerk of tho
Crown in Chancery, or ui Jiis possession, in order that the said documents may be esammod
by tho parties to the present petition and by tho judge trying the election petition, the whole
in accordance with rule number 21 of this Com-t.
740
F. LANGELIER,
Attij. for I'etitinnen
Malbaik, 1st July, 187<i.
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CANADA.
IMIOVINCK OF QL'EIU'X',
/)iK>r!''f of Sit:/uiniii/
SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION (JONTIiOVKRTED ELECTIONS .VCT, 1^74.
Kl.KcTllHU, Dl^iTII
ll'r III- ClIAHI.KVOIN.
UIJASSARD ET AL.
P<Ht.,
750
Hon. LI. L. LANGEVIN, C.R.,
Def.
Whnr-.iH tJi,^ IVlitioiurs have not coulormccl to the judgment of tliis Honorable Court
liy iiriuluciiig and iyling tlieir bill of particulars.
Motion, on tlie part of Defendant, tliat proceedings on the present petition bo
adjourned until sueli time as tb<* Petitioners may have produced and fv-led all tbo particulars
re-ar.lin;.; paragraphs (ive (5) and six |(i) of the said petition, by pointing out whe-ther each
oir.ne." was connnitted bi'fore, during, or after tlio nomination, or before, during, or after
the vothig ; as to paragraph seven (7), regarding undue clerical inlluenee, by pointing out
700 the place, outside the pulpit, where the Uev. Frain;ois Cnuj-Mars, Cure of St. Simeon, s"tated
I hat it was a case of conscience, a mortal sm, a grave sin, to vote for the Defendant's
o].ponent, with the precise date of each offeneo, whether it was before, during, or after the
uorahnition, or hefnre, ,iin-ing. or after the voting; the place where, outside the pulpit, at
St. L'rbain, the Uev. A. Fafard threatened them with the refusal and the deprivation of the
ordinary assistance that Iw. was accustomed to give them, as well as the deprivation of
sitnati.ms, empl.iyments and other advantages to the persons montionod in the bill o^
particulirs, with the dati; of each offence, sliowiug whether it was before, during, or after
the nomination, or before, during, or after the vothig.
The place where, outside the pulpit, at Bale St. Paul, the Rev. Joseph Sirois
770 tlireatened with spiritual penalties the persons mentioned in the bill of particulars, with the
precise date of each offence, whetlier it was before, during, or after the nomination.
The place, outside the pulpit, where, at St. Ililarion, the Rev. Ignaco Langlais,
intimidated, by threats of spiritual penalties, the persons mentioned in the bill of particulars,
showing the date of each offence, wliether it was before, during, or after the uomination
day, or before, during, or after the day of voting.
The place, outside the pulpit, wliero, at St. Fidi-le, the Rev. W. Tremblay, intimidated
by threats of spiritual penalties, the persons mentioned ' . die particulars, with the date of
each offence, sliowing whether it was before, during, or after the uomination, or before,
during, or after the voting. ,
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780 The place, .mtsi,],. tlir iMiljiit, ,tt St. Mticnii,' ,1c la Malhuic, wli. re tlir IJev. N. Doiicut
said to tlu' iiersoiiH, lucntioiicil in the particiilai's, Miat tlii'y r.'uderc.l IhumHulvOH iial.lo to bo
(laniiiod by voting for tlio Dcfomlant't. T.ppoiuMu with tij(; .late of .nicli offei.co, KJiowiiiK
wlicthcr it waH lifforc. dnriuf^. <,r after the iioiuiiiiifiou, or before, iluriiif,', or after the
Votill'',
The plate, oiltMil,. the pulpit, where at St Ireli(ie, the l{v\. M. li. Koy, slated that
it was a eiise of conseieuce to vote for the Defeiuhiufs opponunt, with the date of each
offeiice. sliowiii;,' wliit!
nr lifter the voting
ii.'r It was before, diiriii;;, i.r after tlu! tioiiiiuatioii, or before, during,
Tlic place, outside the pulpit, where, at I'etite Uiviere St. Fraii.;nis, tho Kev. h. K.
790 Lauriuult intimidated, by throats of .spiritual penalties, the persons mentioned in the
particulars, if they voted for the Defendant's opponent, witli the date of each offenco,
showing' whether it was before, during' or after the nomination, or before, during, or after
the voting.
The whole conformably to the onlors of the> Court and with costs against tiie
Petitioners.
H. C. PELLETIEK,
Athirnei/ jbr Defendant.
Mai.iiaik, 3rd July, la7(J.
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(IAN ADA. 1
SIM) I'UOVINt'K OF gUHUEC, -
Dittriii qf Suifvmay. )
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SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMIN">N CONTIIOVKIITED Ef.KCTlUNS ACT, 1874,
OSKE iJItAHSAllD kt ai.,
AND
Petilionera;
SKI
TiiK Hon. II. li. LANOEVIN,
Ihfi'UiUml.
I'iirticularn rnniislii;il by ilio Potilipiiors I'dativo I • the tlilTortiit paragrapliH of
tlicir pitition. '^
I. r\UAOIlAl'll FiVK.
1. Jjaurciit I'iluti', ol' inf iniiisli of I'.iiic St, I'luil, oartor, liad froin tho Dtfi'iulaiit, as
well art from Israo! Tarto, of (^nel)oc, imimulist, from Adtilpii" Caroii, of Quebec, Esquire,
mlvocato, from OiK-iiuui (iaiitliior, of St. Urbaiii, miuin^; af,'ent, llio promi.so of a situatiou at
Hail' Kt. I'liul, m .January last,
2, Tlioiiiii.-, Laroiiclu', of Haie St. Paul, carriage maker, rooeiveJ money from the said
Israel Tartr. 'n .laiiuary l.i t, at Half St. Paul.
fj. jLitii Uaptisti! IJoldiic, ol Piaie St. Paul, carter, and Kplirem Gagnon, of tho same
place, carpenter, received from tho naid Tarto money and li<iuor, at Baio St. Paul, in
January last.
^i)n \. Irt'l Larouche, of Haio St. Paid, farmer and carter, ri oeived money from t!ie said
'Parte, at Itaie St. I'aul, in January last.
5. Alfred Dufunr, of Uaio St. Paul, blacksmith, was thr. itencd with th. lo.-s of his
position as Major of Militia, and received a promise of increase of pay, and other promises,
at Uaie St. Paul, in Jaiuiaiy last.
(!. Maxime Dufour, of Bale St, Paul, blacksmith, nf ived from the Defendant the
same thre.its and promises, made to his sou. already named, Alfred Dufour, in eider that he
might lie informed of them, at Uaii !. Paul, in January last.
7. Tlieophile Simard, of Haie St. Paul, hotel keeper, received money from the
Defendant, in January, at Baio St. Paul.
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8. Andre liouehard, of Baio St. Paul, baker, received from the Defendant, and from
tho said Israt'l Tarto, the prumise of a situation at Baii St. Paul, in January last.
i. .Iiau Savard, of St. Simdon, f: , was tlireateued at Si, Sim6on, in January
last, by John McTiaren, of the same place. Crow ,iber Agent, to pay for throe timber
limits insi.'iul of one.
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111, (lif^'oiiv .Ii'iin, of MiiUiiiic, minoti, r.'ci'ivcd in Jtiimary, iit M ill)aii>, fmin .loHopli
KiiiK', of Mulbiik', I'l-'ijiuro, notiiiy, auil from Jjmipli Stiuiisks Pcnmilt, of tliu namo plauo,
EHijiiiri', advooiito, tins K'tt or a promiHo of a Huni of nioiuy,
11. J(w.'i)h Hoiicliartl, ixistmastor of I'ointi'-ii-l'ic, Miilbai'«, rotcivf.l in January l:i-r,,
at Mnlliain, from tlin m'ul Jost'iih HtauislnH IVrrault, tlio promiso or offur of a loan of r.i.Hoy,
H40 !-• Ouor^tiH l)iil)or«w, of Malbaiu, liotol koopor. rouoivu.l li » tin; Dofeudai , n ul
from till) .said Jo.nopli bta-iislas I'urraitlt, an 1 .Josupli Kano, in January la^t, at Malbaio, tlio
ifift or t\h prniuiso of a .sum of muin.y and tlu' promisi; of a Hituation and other advaiitaKOH.
lit. David Hoy, of Mallmii', baditV, nreivcd in January bist, at Miilbaio, from the
Dill iidant, unci IVoni tlir said Josipli Kan<', mid Joseph Stani.slaH IVrrault, tli.' promiHc of ft
-lituution.
II. lluliirt Warnu, Hon of Joan, of .Malbaio» nailor, roccivod in January last, at
Malbaic, iViPUi Jo.soph Kanu abovoni' ntioncd, a loan, or a promise; of a loan of luouoy.
l,">. I'liiiipliili- 'I'r. niitliiy, of Sto. Anne du la IVradi', surveyor, in January last, nt St.
Urbiiin, promised to all the cliiitors of St. Urbaiu the opening up of a road to go to
g,fjO KuttriiiKton.
III. Onesimu (Jauthii'r, nhovu-mentioued, proinis»>d to Frain;oiH Savard, O.'.mo Savard,
Ilypolite Trembbiy, Juste Bouchard and Ori!,'eue Dufour, all farmers of St. Ililariou,
situations, contracts, money and other iidvauta),'OH, namtdy, at St. Urbaiu and at St.
lliluridii, in .laniiary last.
17. l'ami)hilu Tremblay, already named, promised to Napoleon Tromblay, Francois
Lapointe and Laurent Liipointe, of St. I'rhain, fanners, the cutting of the wood for a bridf,'0,
to wit, at St. I'rbiiin and at Jiaie St. I'aul, in January last.
IH. 'I'honi.i- I iouchard, of St. Simoon, farmer, received in January last, at Malbaie
and at St. Sinie.m. the gilt or the proiuLso of a sum of money froju Joseph Stanislaa Perrault
860 'i'"' Joseph Kane aforesaid.
19. Seraphin Lajoie, of Malbaie, received in .January last, at Malbaie, from the said
.Joseph Stani>las PerrMult, a promi.so that the said I'errault would stop a suit which the said
Ijajoie had against his mother.
•H). Joseph Dufoiu', of Isle aux Coudre.s, farmer and tanner, received in January last,
at l^aie St. Paul, from Auguste Ileal Anger.s, of (Quebec, Esquire, advocate, the promise of
favors from the local Government.
21. Edouard Perrault, of Bale St. Paul, farmer, received in January last, at Baie St.
Paul, from the Defendant, the promise of money and employment.
•22. Florent Tromblay, of Baie St. Paul, farmer, received in January last, at Baie St.
gi^Q Paul, from the Defendiu.:. from the said Fsniel Tnrte and from the Honorable David Price,
of Quebec, senator, gifts and promises of money.
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23. Aiulro Ciirro, of Mall)aio, farmor, n ecived from tlio said Diiviil Price, in Jiinuary
laHt, at MaH)iiio, tlio jiromiso of a situation.
21. t'lt'oplias TreniWay, of Hb'. Aj.;ii()s, farmer, and Loaiidro Cot6, of tlio same place,
also farmor, received in Jnuiiurv, at Stc. A;,'ii6.s and at Mailiaie, from the said Joseph
Stanislas Pcrraidt and Joseph Kane, j,'ifts and promises of mouey.
25. l''redcric Otis, Jean Harvey, Fraiii,'ois Harvey, Thomas Gagiion, all farmers, of
.Mall)aie, recrived from the Defendant, in January last, at Malbaie, promises of money and
pecuniary advantaj^'es.
880 2(i. Vital Harvey, of Malbaie, on the day before the voting, received from the said
Joseph Stanislas Perrault, and from the said Joseph Kane gifts and promises of money and
pecuniary advantages.
27. Louis Tremblay, son of Malcolm, of St. Ililariou, farmer, received in January last,
at St. llilarion, and St. Urbain, from the said Auguste Ileal Angers, the promise of a
situation.
28. Franij-ois Greiion and J(isei)h Helanger, farmers, of Bale St. Paul, received in
January last, from BtMijamiu Boivin of Haie St. Paul, farmer, money or promises of money
and pecuniary advantages.
2it. Zacliarie Bouchard of Petite Riviuro, farmer, about the end of January, at Petite
890 Iliviere, received from Abelon C>'ite, of Quebec, trader, a gift of money.
HI), l^tieinie (lauthirr, of Petite I'liviere, farmer, received from Vineeslas Tremblay,
trader, of Baie St. Paid, and from Petit Lavoie, farmer, of Petite liiviere, in January, at
Petite liivitre, the promise of a situation.
fU. Tlieophile Jjois, of St. Simeon, farmer, in January last, at St. Simeon, received
from the s:iid .lohn McLaren, medical attendance, and the remission of his fees for such
attendance.
H2. Idas Bouchard, of Petite lUviijre, farmer, in January, at Petite Iliviere, received
from tlie l)efeniiant, gifts and promises of money and employment, and favors and
advantages.
90(3 8;J. Pampliile Demeule, of Malbaie, surveyor, in January last, at Malbaie, received
from the Difendant, and from Simon Xavier L'imon, of Malbaie, contractor, the promise of a
situation or of employment.
IL Pauticui.aks liici.ATivK TO Paraouai'h Six of tuk Petition.
1. BartlK-lcmi B. lioiudwird, of Malbaie, trader, in January, at Malbaie, threatened
Kossis Desbiens and Fiilix Lajoie, farmers, of .Malbaie, to sue them or to make them pay up
at once.
2. Denis (iauihier, of St. Fidele, liadtr, souio days before the voting at St. Simeon
and St. Fidule, threatened Thomas Simard, Elez^ar Ghamberlaud, Charles Bouchard,
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Tliimiiis 'I'l-t'iiililiiy, Kl:ivii-ri (iiiiitliii r. all of St. SiiuOoii, I'ii
i)lO sitiiatidiis, aiiil with .suits.
S with lo.-i-i of (•mi)loymeiit or
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;{. t)ii('siiiii' Ciaiithi.r, ahuvi ■nann'.l, in .latniarv hist, ut St. rrbaiii, tlirt';iti'iii'il Pitrc
(iiiliivt, ami .liis,]ih (iilhiTt, hdtli of St. I'lhaiii, aii.l Xavirr (iilhurt, of Hte. A^'iii-s, nil
liii'iiiLTs, llial tlhv woiil.l (ihtiiiu IK) iiiipi'oveim Ills, nor iiioiii y fniiu tho jfovuriimont.
I. 'i'hc I' vtiiinl l-'iaiirui^, ('iiii| .Mm--, cuii' tit' St. Siiuroii, .soiiir (lays lioforo (ho
vdtiii;,' at St. SiiiiiMiM, III ih.' |iiil|iit airl out of thi' iiul[iil, statiil to all tlir lioiiiai. Catholic
.ii I'toi-s (it th ; sai'l p.iii^h, aiul am uiir othiTs to .Narci^sc Hoiichar.l, .Joliiiiiy Dtsliiciis,
.Vliialiam Tr'Hililay, .Michel .Iii^^Iumii, I'aiiin'i-s, .Michil 'ri-fiiihlay, iicaillc, and S(;rai)hiij
(iiiciiii, ti'iiil. r, that it was a (asc of c'liisciriicc, a iiiorta! sin, a In avy siii. to voti; for tlio
ol)|ioncilt ol the Dclrliilailt.
II'JO ■"'• I'iii K vi ri iiil .lo>i pli Sirois, L-iiic of IJaic St. I'aiil, on the sixtcciitii of .(aiiuai-y
last, ami on tlir piic ■din;,' ami foljowiii'^' lUiys, a^ well in the imlpit as out of it, thicatciu'd
\.itli spiritii.il a;i.l t.inji nal ii.naitics, ail the Itoniaii Catholic chctors of liaic St. I'aiil, and
amoii;,'^t olh •!■■' l''raii.;.u-( TurLjcoM. l!oiiit':ic,- Luroiuh ■. Octave Siniard, (Nocc) ( icoi'ifus Cotci,
Tiniolhc Siniard. C(^'l<stin llimirhard, Adolphc .\I irtcl, .lohnny Diifoiir, .loscph Laronchc,
llilpli ilitc Lanmehc, Xavicf Luroiichc, .lohniiy Cute, Franc lis I'ciTon, Napijlccjn Potvin,
Ferdinand Sinmrd, .Vdoliihc (iii'anl. ireniy (iiranl, Thoinas (lirard, (icori,'(>s Laroiieho,
.I()M[ili Itoily, .lo.^t'ph Laroiiehu, son of IJoiiiface, Thomas Perron, Israel fjaiiierre, .leuu
JJaptiste Liirouehe, .son of Joan, Thoiuas Fortin, Hiiuoii Lavoio, .\hraliani Larouche, Floi
Treiilhlay, Ferdin:iiid Trcnihlay, Ailf,'ii>tiii 'riemlil.ay, Klllo:,",' Tremhlay, 'rhi'ophile Tleiiihluy,
'JoO Xiuur Tr lulilay, ,Vti,.;uste 'rreinhlay, son of .\iiumi -tin. C'l irb ^ Tr inlilay, son of .Vu^'ustin,
Ovide Tri nihiay, [h> .lean .NIaic), I'-iihiciii Bouchard, son of .Vu ii c, Theophile 1! livin, .IoM'[)h
IJdiviii, l.oiiis .\llard. senior, Louis .Vllard. the yoiiiiLrcr, Oiu'sinie Siniard, ((iotli), ami .Mexis
Siniard, i(loih), l-'.iloiiari! Siniard, seiii(a-, I'eiix I'ilole, Hi'iii'i'v I'ilnte, Liic ■rriichon, l''erili-
nai'd Siin.ird, llyiidlite Mdnii, Xliii.-e C''it('', (hiesinie Truclion, l,iicdn 'rreinhlay, Zi''])liiriii
Sim.ird, .loseph lioiMii, 'riionia^ l''drtiii, Mphonse (''pti', all t'ariiiers; Octave (i nay, hlack-
suiilh; Ldiii^ .Ml. lid, rentier; I'.loi 'I'liiiihlay, carria,L,'e-iiialier; Ner6e Asseliu, tanner;
Fcrdiiiaml l>anielsirii, sIuk nialcer,
<l. The Itevercud .\nihrdise Fafanl, cure of St. I rha i in .Iiinuary last, in the pulpit
and out df it, at St. Urhain, thn-atciied with thi> refusal and deprivation of tho ordinary
!)40 iis^istancc that he wasiiceustdincd to j,'ivo them, as well as with the dci)rivatio!i of situations,
cniplovini nl^ and olli. r ailvanta^^es, all the U mian Ciitholic clecitors of the said iiarish of St.
L'riiain, and anions' others. Xavier tlirard, I'itre (iilheit, (iiMleon Perron, S('riiphin Tremhlay,
Joseph (iilhert, Oiiesime I'ridet, .\laii. Tremhlay, .Vlplu'".' (le^jnon, all fanners, Pierre
IJourassa, tradr, Trctli- Houchard, hhicksiiiith and cahimt-nmker.
7, The h'evereiid If,'nace f,ain;l:!i -. cuie of St. Hilarion. oi. the sixteenth of Ja-iiiary
hist, and (U" the inccediii^,' and follow in;.; days, at St. llilarion. in the pulpit and out of it,
iiitiiuidate I hy throatu of spiritual penalties, if they vot.'d for the Defendant's opponent, all
the lldin in ('atholio cloutors of tho said parish, and amou.; others ; llmilo Asseliu, Joseph
Hiiii Ireiiult, Oni^'simo Hcr^'crdii, .Vipiilas Assidm, .\ii;.;usie (iilhiat, Joseph Bortjorou, Flavion
")Q0 Villeneuve, Zephirin Savard, all farmers ; N'arcisse Lajoie, hlaoksmith.
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n^io H. r Rovnua L. E. I/iuriault, cuv,^ of Petite Rivicro St. F.'au.o,s. in tho saul
parish, on thr siKt.entl. of Ja.mary last, and on the procclin,, and following days, m the
imlpit ana out of it, intimiaatua l.y threat, of spiritual penalties, if thny voted lor the
Oefenaanfs ..pponent, all the Ho.nan Catholic electors of the said parish, au.l am.m^' others,
Au«uste llacine, Etienne Treiul.lay, Alexis Tromhlay. Martin Lavoie aud Idas Bouchard,
furiucr8.
.) The Reverend W. TreniMav. cure .,f St. FidoU', on the sixteenth of January last,
and nn the preceding and following days, at St. Fidele, in the pulpit and .n.t of it intnmdatod
i,v tinei.t^v of spiritual penalties, if thoy voted tor the Defendants opponent, al. the Ivo.nan
Catholic electors of the said parish, and a.uong others, Abel Maltais, Es6 Gagnon. h.uiheu
960 liouchurd, larniers, and .lohnny Trcmblay, trader.
K. The Reverend N. Doucet, cure of St. Etienne of Malhaie, in January last, at
Malhaie out of the pulpit, stated to the Roman Cath .lie electors of the said parish, and
umon.' others to Denis Harvey, Vital Harvey, Narc.sse Harvey, farmers, Xavier \Varrcn,
hotel keeper, (to hiuvself and his wife) to Cyrille Gueriu. senior, and Henri Guern., farmers,
that they would expose theni.,lves t„ danmation by voting for Defendant's opponent.
11 '['he Reverend Mr. E. Roy, cure of St. Ircnec, on the sixteenth of January last,
,„.l on the preeedmg and following days, in the pulpit and out of it, stated to the Koman
Catholic electors of the said parish, and among others to Germain Lajoie, blacksmith, Jeau
(lautlner, Ferdi.ia.id Tremblay, Gilbert Bouchard, Octave Girard a.id Marc Bouchard, all
970 faruiers, that it was a case of conscience to vote for the Defeiidnufs oppoiient.
# F. LANGELIER,
Alli/.f'ir Pentiiiiu'ru.
Mai.haik. 27th Juiie, 1870.
Received copy.
U. C. PELLETIER,
Altii./nr Ihi.
The IMitioners declare tl.,t all the cases upon which they intend to pi^ceed except
those expressly iuentio.ied in their particulars as having occurred on the d.iy of voting,
occurred before the voting.
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980 I'ANADA.
PKOVIXCK OF QUEJJHC.
Il'ixtriit nf Siij/wiKii/.
IN THE SUPERIOR COURT.
THE DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT 1S74.
OSEE JUtASSARD et al.,
i'l'titiiiiitirs ,
ANU
TiiK 1J.)N. H. L. LAN(JEVIN,
• Itfspimdt'iit .
1 iipi.cai- ,is coiiu.sel lor tho iiaspoudciit at the n„,aeie in this case.
!)UU
Mai.maii:, Did July. IHTli.
J. V. PEIIRAULT,
Viiiiiiscl for liespondenl.
'•mU
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DISTRICT HI- SACUHXAY. (DOMINION CONTROVERTED KLECTIONS
' ACT, 1874.
IN TlIK SUI'EUIOII COUllT.
(JllAUI.KVOlX ElkcTION.
BRASSAl!!) kt al.,
I'ltiliiiiifis ;
AND *♦
1000 1[„N. 11. L. LANGEVIN,
ItmiinlKlilll,
Motion by Petitioners for leuvc to amon.l tli.. imiticulars l,y them furnislied iu this
cause to a 'spoutloiit, and to all tlicreuiito the following' casus :—
1. OjK'Miiie (l.uulrauU, of St(>. A<,'iies, merchant and farmer, received from Respondeut
and from Israel Tart ' of Qii-hoc, joiirnaUst. as also from Joseiih Kane, notary, and Joseph
Stanislas I'errault. a IvocatJ, both of Malbaic, a .sum of money and drink to be distributed
to the electors of Ste. A'jnes, and did give some of the same, amongst others, to Cloophas
Tremblay, of Ste. Agnes, farnu'r, tlio whole at Ste. Agnes on the day of the polling and
some days before and on the day of the nomination.
1010 -• Efandr(- Cute, of Ste. Agnes, farmer, received, at Ste. Agnes, during the lilteen days
which preceded the polling, from the said Joseph Kane and Joseph Stanislas Perrault, the
oiler, I'romise and gift of sums of money.
a. Joseph IJ.rgeron, son of Louis Bergeron of Ste. Agnes, farmer, received, at Ste.
Agnes, during the last lll'teen days of the el(>clion the promise and gift of sums of money
tVom Joseph Kane aad Jo.^cph Stanislas Perrault aforesaid.
1. Pierri^ Eanielson the younger, of Haie St. Paul, shoemaker, received, at JJaio St.
I'ai'l, in the last week of the election the offer, promise and gift of a sum of money by the
liev. .loseph Sirois, cure of Paie St. Paul.
r>. Elie Lapointe, of Malbaie, farmer, received from the Respondent, at Malbaio, in
1020 l'"-' I'l^t lifteen days of the election the promise of a sum of money.
(5. David Dassylva, of ^ralb.iie, farmer, received from Joseph l^assylva, of the same
plact', farnur, and frem the lion. David Prie>.' of the City of Quebec, senator, the promi.sc of
a place, employment and other advantages, to wit, at Maibaie in January last.
from
tl
pay in
7. Thomas Tremblay, of St. Fidele, farmer, received in January last, at St. Fidele,
le said David Price and from Denis Gauthier, of St. Fidele, merchant, the promise to
eirccts what he owed them, if ho voted for Respondent.
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8 Pro... r Conua.. ..f St. Ironoo, fanner, ivcivod from Pascal Gauthur. „. the .amo
ptoo.. morchuul. un.l fron. the huuI .Tos.,.1. Kau. a.ul Ja.,.h Staninla. Porraul. .-n of
mon. -. ..r r.coivcd the \< ,. -f » -mn uf moaoy by thu samo. to wit. at bt. Jrci.
1030 Smiclay Iii'forc lliu- voting.
)) Til.' saia Pascal (lauthior. M, u, tho Hai.l parinh, on tho day of tho votinR and
,L.. ,.r..n' li,>^. dajs. c.muti,.« from tho .ixtcuuth of January incluHively, distribute dr.nk to a
largo iiiiu.bcr of tii.^ ol(>«;tors of St. '•'•'•'■
10 .losoph l.ab..-,v, of S M r,u, r, rocoived fron. llespoudout and fro.u Joseph
^t„ ,1a: ■ IVrrault an-l Jo.^th i ■ af.,r..aid, a ^um of mouoy to bo distributed to the
olcotors of Sto. AKHiM. U> wit. nt t A ->. ui January last.
11. The «aid JoHoph Labery.. «av. to Pierre Lavou . of Sto \gniB. farmer, and to hiB
wife a sum nf luouey >" January last, at 8to. Agnts.
!•> |-nuK>H,(la«noii,of Malbaio. cart.. , roceiv..d from tho said Jo.soph Kano and
1040 Joso,h S.'.uislas Pornvull. and i, nu IJarth ' mi U. Bouchard, of Malbaio, merchant, a sum
of nioucy in .January last at Maliiaie.
Vi (lasnard rr.mblav . of Ste. Agn6s, farmer, received from One«ime Gauthier. of St.
Urbaiu. 'agent for miu... tl,' o: ' r of a place, employuaent and monoy, or the promise
thereof, in Janmu y lasl X'^nb^.
11. Napoleon T'
Fafard, cure of St. Url
employment, to wit in •!..
vehicles to carry voters.
1050
„f Ht. Urbain, farmer, was threatened by Rev. Ambroiso
with refusal and privation of the usual help and privation of
aary last at St. Urbain. Tiartholcmi B. Bouchard aforesaid hn-ed
F. LANGELIEU.
Alt I/, for Petitioners.
Mahsaie, !h-d July, 1870.
Pierre Alexis Tremblay, of Malbaie, Esquire, having been duly sworn on the Holy
Evanglrtdoposeih and .a.th :-lt was I who ac.. as agent for the ^-ot't'-ors and as
fuel have funishcd to their Attorney, the information ou wluch he has I'-Pavod the
" cu W of this case ; notwithstandmg a most active and minute search I was unable to
Iwer the cases mentioned in tho foregoing motion until alter the production of the
particulars in this case, and have signed.
P. A. TBEMBLAY.
Snorn before nw at Malbuie, this ith July, 187C.
lOGO
CHAS. DUBERGEB,
p. s. 0.
I 'jr .riSi witfaj 'fi^ lai' j
i^mamtiiiiiSiimitmmim^^^
iM ' imimmmmn'im*mnm
MM)
MMtB
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DISTRICT OF SAGUENAY. ( DOMfNION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS
^ ACT, 1874.
IN THE SUPEIMOK COURT.
Charlkvoix Election.
1070
0. BRASSARD et al.,
Pctiliiiners ;
AND
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
lic-ijKiiiih'iit.
Motion by Petitiouurs for leave to add to their particulars in this case the Ibllowiug
cases : —
1. On the day of the voting or the preceding days, the Rev. Napoldou H. Leclerc,
licaiir of Baio St. Paul, did, in the said parish of Baie St. Paul, say to Isidore .Jean, Tiiomas
Jean and Adam Jean, farmers, of the said parisli of Baio St. Paul, that in voting for tliu
adversary of the Respondent they would vote for the Devil.
2. In January last, before the voting, at St. Sim6on, Denis Gauthicr, of St, Fidole,
merchant, threatened Barthelemi Gagne, of St. Simeon, farmer, that ho would drive him
away from his shanty or that ho would not employ him.
1080 •^- 1^" J'lmiary, before the votmg, at P St. Paul, Wilfrid, or Frid Limard, of Baie
St. Paul, carter, received from Israel Tarto, lebec, journalist, divers sums of money.
F. LANGELIER,
A II I/. !'■»■ PiUitidiicrs.
Malhaie, 4th July, 1870.
Pierre Alexis Tromblay, of Malbaie, Esquire, having been duly sworn, dcposeth and
saith : — It was I who furnished to the Advocate for the Petiti(inurs the information on
which the particulars in this case were prepared ; I hoard only yesterday evening of the
three cases mentioned in the foregoing motion, and deponent hath signed.
1090
Siiorn hefoiv me ot Malhaie, itit July, 187C.
P. A. TREMBLAY.
CHS. DUBERGER.
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DISTRICT OF 8AGUENAY. I DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS
/ ACT, 1874.
Charlevoix Election.
1100
0. BRASSARD et al.,
Petitioners ;
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Ucspomle)it,
Present : — Hon-. A. B. Routhier, Judge of the Supremo Court.
Ordered, ou motion of the Petitioners, that the Clerk of the Crown in Chancery for
the Dominion of Canada, do transmit forthwith to Charles Duhcrger, Prothonotary of this
Court at Malbaic, all books, lists, commissions, certificates, statements, papers, documents
and reports whatsoever, rclatuig to the last election for the electoral district of Charlevoix,
of It memhc- to represent the said district hi the House of Commons of Canada, the said
documeuis havmg been returned to the said Clerk of the Crown in Chancery or in his
possession, in ordox that the said documents may be examined by the parties to this petition
and by the .fudge clu rged with the trial thereof, the whole in pursuance of the 24th rule
of this Court.
1110 [a true copy.]
F. LANGELIER,
Att'y. fur Petitioners.
I, Alphonse Lusignan, of the City of Ottawa, having been duly sworn, say; — That
I have delivered and served to Richard Pope, Esquire, Clerk of the Crown in Chancery, a
duly certified copy of the foregoing order, addressing myself to him in person in the City of
Ottawa.
A. LUSIGNAN.
Sn-orn before me at Ottaiia, litis ith July, 1P70.
W. A. HIMSWORTH, J. P.
! J
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1120 DISTRICT OF SAGUENAY.
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IN THE SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
O. BRASSAllD ET Ai,.,
Petitioners :
AND
Hon. II. L. LANGEVIN,
Respondent,
Motion by Petitioners to amend their particulars, by adding thoiounto tlio name of
Z6phii'iu Bergeron, of St. Ililarion, toaelier, wlio had conversations with M. Langlais, aire
of the said parish, in which conversations M. Langhiis tried to practice intimidation on liira.
1130 and on the other Roman Catholic electors of the county.
F. LANGELIER,
Att'y.J'nr Petitioners.
Malbaie, 9th August, 1874.
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DIHTIUCT OF S.UiUENAY. , SUPERIOR COURT.
No. 11.
Electiun 1'etitiun.
(). 1511ASSAU1) KT AL.,
I'clilioiiirs;
AND
Hon. II. L, LANGEVIN,
1140
HeHp,
Uuu. Hector Laugeviu, the Ilespoiuloiit iii this ciiuso, hoiug duly sworn, dcposeth and
snith :
Tliat lio cannot hogin liin I'miitrte without doiiliug with tho now facts introduced hy
the evidence of tho Petitioners; tliat tho .said facts are numerous and coiupheated,
particuhirly such as rehitc to undue clericalinfluonee ; tliat tlio Petition"rs have conducted
then- I'liijiiete without following any order in relation to the allegations of the petition, and
that he 'uis in cousciiuence, heen unable to begin preparing his evidence before the end ol the
fiuiHi'ic of Petitioners ; that tho distance to be travelled in order to procure tho requisite
information and secure witnesses is considerable ; that for all those reasons it is practically
][ J gQ impossible for him to commence his emiuetc, and conduct it uninterruptedly and with
celerity without a delay of eight days ; that without such delay he will experience great
diiliculties and tha, the interests of his defence might bo endangered.
.\nd hath signed,
Sinini. tii'forc iiii' al Mttlbaic, litis 12llt Ainjust, 1870.
HECTOR L. LANGEVIN.
CHAS. DUBRRGER,
p. s. e. etc.
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DISTHICT OF SAOUENAY. ( SUPERIOR COURT
No. 11.
Elkution Petition.
1160 BllAS.SAKl) ET AL.,
Petitionen ,
AND
Hon, II. L. LANGEVIN,
Motion on behalf of Respoiulont, that the case be adjourned to lOtli instaut.
U. CYR. PELLETIER.
lll'ij. fur li'i's/i,
MAI.BAIE, 12th Aug., 1876.
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a7u-ovi.cf;r.o..,.x.[ IN THE SUPERIOR COURT.
DUlrlet ol Snuutnaij.
i
DOMINION CONTIIOVERTKD ELE<JT10NS ACT, 1874
(Jll\KLKVl)IX ElkCTION.
(). DUASSAUI) K- At,.,
riUtioner^;
Hon. II. L. LANGEVIN,
Hesp.
lloHpondcut atlraitH :
1180 1. Tliat thu iVtitioiiers were oloctors duly qaalifioa to voto iit tho oluction in question,
and that they signed tho petition in this case.
2. That tho said oloction was lioUl as alleged in the second clause of tho petition in
this oausc.
3. That all the witnossos examined by tho Potitionors, oxcopt those who declared to
the contrary, wore electors and entitled to vote at tho said election.
H. CYRIAS PELLETIEIl,
Att'ij. for Ilesp,
Malbaie, 11th August, 187G.
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CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE.
1190 PROVINCE OF QUEBEC,
District of Saguena;/.
IN THE SUPERIOR COURT.
I the undersignocl, Bailiff of the Superior Court, certify under my oath of office,
that I have served subpcenaa on Thomas Jean, and Adam Joan, by leaving with each of them
a copy thereof at theu* domicile at Bale St. Paul, addressing them in person, this 1 1th July,
1876.
J. BTE. TREMBLAY.
Baie St. Paul, Uth July, 1876.
Services 5/0.
1200 Travelling ex. 11/8.
B. S. C.
16/8.
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CERTIFICATE OF SP^RVICE.
rnoviNCE OF quebec, i in the superior court.
Duilricl of SaifUtnaij, ]
1, tho undersigned, Bailiff of the Superior Court, certify under my oatli of office, that
I have served subpoenas on the witnesses named, by leaving to caeli of them a copy, at then-
domicile at Baie St. Paul, addressing them in person this 8th July, 1870. Tho said
Napoleon Potvm, Ephrom Menard, Cele.stin Lomicux, Thomas Laroucho, having told me
that they could not go to the Coiirt without having the money for their travelling expenses.
1210 J. BTE. TREMBLAY,
n. H. u.
Baie St. Paul, 8th July, 1876.
Services .1/5/0
Travelling ex. 7/6
1/12/6
2/6
1/16/0
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CEETIFICATE OF SERVICE.
I tliii uailersigned, Biiiliff of the Superior Court, for tho Proviuce of Quebec,
1220 ai)i)0Uitud for the District of Sngucuay, residing lu the parish of Baio St. Paul, hereby
certify uuder my oath of oflico, that I have sorvod ou tho witnesses, in the case of Brassard,
et al. vs. Hon. H. L. Langovin, Respondent, true certified copies of subpoena: on
Telesphore Fortin, Esquire, notary, otTeruig and delivering §10.00 by him accepted, and
on Epiphauo Guillemettc, carpenter, offering and dchvcrinj, $4.00 by him accepted, to
Thomas Larouche, carpenter and waggon-maker, offering and paying to him §4.00 by him
accepted, and Alfred Lavoie, carter, all of Baio St. Paul, Alfred Lavoie, accepting §4.00,
delivering there unto them then, true certified copies of the said original subpoena.
HECTOR HUOT,
B. 3. O.
1230 Baie St. Paul, .Srd September, 1970.
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SUBPCENA.
CANADA.
IMtOVlNCH OF QUEBEC,
DUtrlcl of Naijiimnij.
IN THE SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1871.
VicToKiA, by the Gracu of God, of the United Kiugdom of Great Britain and Ireland, Queen,
Defender of the Faitb.
To Epiphane Cluilmot, carpenter; Alfred Lavoie, carter; Z6phirin Guilmet, carpenter ;
Thomas Laroucho, waggon-maker; Telesphore Fortiu, notary; of Bale St. Paul, greeting:
1 94 A Wo command you tliat laying aside all and singular business and excuses you and
each of you be and appear in your proper persons before us in our Superior Court, for
Lower Canada, m oiu- parish of St. Etieuno de la Malbaie, in the said District, the sixth day
of September instant, at 10 o'clock in the forenoon of the same day, to testify all and
singular those things which you know in a certam cause now pending in our said Court
bfiforc us between
0. BRASSARD et al„
Petitioners ;
[L. S.]
vs.
1250
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Defendant;
m the c:>ntestiition of the Charlevoix election, and this you or cither of you shall by no means
omit under the penalty upon each of you of one hundred pounds currency.
In witness whereof, we have caused the Seal of our said Court, to be hereunto affixed
»t Malbaie, on the 2nd day of Septnmber, in the year of our Lord, 1876, and in the 40th
year of our reign.
CHS. DUBERGER,
Prothonotary of the Superior Court.
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SUBPCENA.
District of Saguenay,
DOMLMON CONTKOVEKTKD ELECTIONS ACT, 1871.
Vi<:
TOBiA, by th,, Grace of Go.l, of tlio United Khigdom of Great Britaiu an.l Irelaud, Q
Defender of tlie Faith.
uoon,
To AlexaiKlro Mur6 and Joseph Guay, sou of the late Joseph, farmer., of Sto. Arr„6s
jreetiug :
We command you that, layin- aside all and singular business and excuses, you, aud
each of you, be and appear in your proper persons, before us, in our Superior Court for
10-n rr ^T^""' '° °"' ^""■''^' '^ ^'- ^^'''-'"'"' '^' ^'^ ^^'^"^'""' "' *'»'•' «'"'^ l^i^trict, the 8th day
1^/0 of Septc-mber, at ten o'clock in tlio forenoon of the same day, to testify all and singular those
things which you know in a certam cause now pending in our said Court before us between
0. BRASSARD et al.,
Petitioners ;
[L. S.i
vs.
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Defendant ;
in the contestation of the Charlevoix election, and this you, or either of you, shall by no
means omit under the penalty upon each of you of one hundred pounds currency.
In witness whereof, we have caused the Seal of our said Court to bo hereunto affixed
1280 at Malbaie on the 7th September, in the year of our Lord 1870, and the 10th year of our
reign.
{Signed,)
CHS. DUBERGER,
p. s. o.
I, the undersigned, one of the sworn Bailiffs of the Superior Court of the Province of
Quebec, appointed for, aud acting as suck iu the District of Saguenay, residing in the parish
of St. Etienne dite de la Malbaie, certify, under my nath of office, that I served tliis subprrna
on the persons therein mentioned, leaving with each of them a certified copy thereof, in the
■^- -.^i
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pariwh of 8tc Agnfca, Hpeaking to themselves, between tcu auJ flovcu o'clock in tlu' oveniuK
of this 7th day of September iiistaut. I certify further tliat the distance travelled is ten mile^t
A. BOIVIN,
B. 8, O.
Malbaib, 8th boptombor, 1876.
Travelling ox. $2.60
Serving, • .60
$8.10
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HU«P(ENA.
CANADA.
1 OVINCH OV gl'HBK' ,!
1300 JH'friel nf SdfjHriMH. '
•N THK HUPKUIOU COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVEIITKI) KLECTIONS ACT, 1871.
Fl
Vhtoiiia, liy till' <iriiu(,' of Goil, of tlu' Umliid IviiiLril'mi
I ». iemlur of the Faitli
>l Ori.at Hi'itiiHi and U'rluii'l, (^in'un,
To Elio Oiranl, .Joan Audotte dit LapointH, Didiur Gauthiur, Michel Piloto, Aloxia
Oirard, Ktntnanuol Oiriird, Benr., David Tr.iublay, Xuvitir Trouibia.v, Hon of Euwibo,
Ptilomon Ortutliiir, Tlon. David Price, all of Si,.. Irtiido, greeting:
Wo conmiand yon, that hiying asiilu all and Hiugular huHuiosH and ox. !^<h, you, and
uach of you, bo and apiJi'ar in your propor persons, before iih, hi our Hiipori Court for
Lower Canada, in our parish of St. Etienue do la Malbaio, in tbo Haid J -triot, v.m 80th day
1310 of August instant, at 10 o'clock in tlio forenoon of the said day, to tostif ill an. I singular
those thnigs which you know in a certain ciii'se now ponding ifi our su Court '"fore us
between
0. Bi.AISBARD et m..,
PctUionem .
[L. 8.] • AND
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Ue/tpondrnt ;
*41t.*)
II. Ill II K I'l.
ill the contestatiou of the Charlevoix eleotio.., and this you, or either of you,
means omit, under the penalty upon each of ou of one hundred pounds currouev
1320 ^" ^^'tness whereof, we have caused tli S(!al of our said (' .iirt to be hero. alBxed
at Malbaio the 29th August, in the year of our Lord, lb78, and the lOth of our roiL
CHS. DUBERGER,
Pkoth. b. .
"J '"' llnard,5<lft}-9 at«!.Ofl .... lll.o
Travellliixox "■"
(11)
in.iiii
I the undersigned, oiio of the sworn Daih "^ of the Province of Quebec, appointed for
and acting as such in the District of Saguonay, >sidiug in the parish of St. Etienno do la
Malbaie, certify, under ray oath of office, that I s. ved this subpoena at their domicile, on the
persons therein mentioned, speaking to thcmselvc As to .Jean Audotte dit Lapointe, Alexis
Girard, David Tremblay, Hector Gauthier, I serve 1 at their domicile, speaking to a reason-
k .,N
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able person of the house, dohvermg to aU aud each of them a certified copy thereof ui the
1330 parish of Ste. Irende, between four and nine of the clock m the evening, this 29th day of
August instant. I further certify that the distance travelled is 17 miles, about.
A. BOIVIN,
Malbaie, 30th August, 1876.
B. s. c.
Serving,
Travelling,
$2.70
4.26
$6.96
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SUBPOENA.
CANADA. ) IN THE BUPERIOK COURT.
1340 PROVINCE OF QUEBEC, [
Dialricl of tidijuimuj.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
Victoria, by tlie Gi'iico of Goil, of the Unitctl Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, Queen,
Defender of tlic Faith.
To Hypolito Tremblay, J. 13. Pilotc, Toussaint Bergoroii, Edouard Bouchard, farmers,
of St. Hilariou, greeting:
We command you, that laying aside all and singular business and excuses, you, and
each of you, bo and aiipcar in your proper persons, before us, in our Superior Court for
Lower Canada, in our parish of St. Etiouue de la Malbaie, in the said District, the 28th day
1350 '^f August instant, at ten o'clock in the forenoon of the said day, to testify all and singular
those things which you know in a certain cause now pending in our said Court before us
between
0. BRASSARD et al.,
Petitioners ;
[L. S.]
AND
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Respondent ;
in the contestation of the Charlevoix election, and this you, or either of you, shall by no
means omit under the penalty, upon each of you, of one lumdred pounds currency.
1360 lu witness whereof we have caused the Seal of oUi ,aid Court to be hereunto affixed
at Malbaie on the 20th August, in the year of our Lord, 1870, and in the lOth year of our
reign.
CHS. DUBERGER,
p. s. c.
I, the undersigned, bailiff of the Superior Court of the District of Saguenay, residing
m the parish of St. Etieuno de la Malbaie, certify, under my oath of office, that I served this
subpoena on the persons therein named at St. Etienne de la Malbaie, speaking to themselves,
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about nuie o'clock in the morning this 28th Auguat instant, delivering to each of them u
certified copy thereof, and exhibiting to them this original.
1370 A. BOIVIN,
Malbaie, 28th Augubt, 1876.
Service,
$ .60
.60
$1.20
I
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bunP(ENA.
CANADA.
PROVINCE OF QUEBEC,
Dislriit of Siiijiiciiii;/ .
LN Tllli SUPEUIOH COURT.
1380
PO.MINION COi'TROVERTl';D ELECTIONS ACJT, 1874.
VicToniA, by the Cmcc of tioil, of tlio Unituil iviiigdom ul' Grunt Britain and Iroliuul, Qnoeii,
Defender of the Faitli.
To Barthelomi Bouchard, nierclwnt, Amalilo Girarl, SLTapliiu Villojiouvo, farmers,
•folni Chamard,./(7.s-, cl.irk, licrmen,e!,'ildo Caroii, Jules Trud.jl. /(/s-. of Malbaio, grocting:
Wo command you, that, laying aside all and singular business and excuses, you, and
each of you, be and and a^jpear in your proper persons, before us in our Superior Court for
Lower Canada, in our parish of St. Etionue de la Malbaio, in the said District, the l!)th day
of August, at 10 o'clock in the forenoon of the same day, to testify all and singular those
things which you know in a certain cause now pending in our said Court before us, between
1390
0. BRASSARD et al.,
Petitioners ,
[L. S.
AND
Hon. U. L. LANGEVIN,
1400
Ile.ipoiiili'iit ;
m the contestation of the Charlevoix election, and this, you or either of you, shall by no
means omit, under the penalty, upon each of you, of one hundred pounds ciu-reucy.
In witness whereof, we have caused the Seal of our said Court to bo hereunto affixed
at Malbaie on 17th day of August, in the year of our Lord 1870, and the 4()th year of our
reign.
CHS. DUBERGER,
p. 8. C.
I, the undersigned, one of the sworn Bailitfs of the Superior Court of the Province of
Quebec, appointed for and acting as such in the District of Saguouay, residing in the parisli
of St. Etieime de la IVlalbaie, certify, under my oath of otlico, that I served this subpoena on
the witnesses therein named at St. Etieune do la Malbaie, on the 18th August instant,
about fivr nVlnc.k in the eveniuL', speaking personally to Bartli61emi Bouchard, Jules Trudel,
Amable Girard and John Chamard ; as to Hermenogildc Caron and Seraphm Villeneuve,
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I served at their domicile, speaking to a roasonablo person of the family, leaving to all miuI
each of them a certified copy of the said subpoona and exhibitmg to them this original.
1410
Malbaie, 9th August, 1876.
Service .?1.80
Travelling ex. 1.26
A. BOIVIN,
B. 8. C.
2.7fl
4^ i
CANADA.
IMiOVINi'K OF QrKliKC
iJinlrirt of A'((;/M<'n'(,v
.^riliiKNA
IN rilK SUI'EUIOU cou
DOMINION CUNTHOVKUTED KLHCTIONS ACT, 1«71.
1420 Victoria, by tliii Oracti i>l God, ol the Uuitod Kingdom of Gruat Britain iiml Ireland, Quei'ii,
DufuiuliT of th,' Fiiith.
To Edward Fortiii, Adam Siiuaril, Tlioiuan Fortin, Aufjiistiii Dore, Cl6opliat(
Tliibault, and V. II. Girard. all of St. Uri)aiii, fanners, Kroutiii;,' ;
We coiuiuand you that, laying anldo all and sinj^ular businosH and excuHos, you and
each of you, be and appear in your proper persons bufoio us in our Superior Court for Lower
Canada, in our parish of St. Etienne de la Malbaie in tlio said District, the 19th day of
August instant, at 10 o'clock in the forenoon of the same day, to testify all and singular
those thin;,'s which you know in a certain cause now pending in our said Court before us
between
1430
[L. S.]
0. BllASSARD ET AL.,
Petiliunera ;
AND
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
*
Respondent ;
in the contestation of the Charlevoix election, and this, you or either of you, shall by no
means omit under tlie penalty upon each of you of one hundred pound.s currency.
In witness wliorcof, wo have caused the Seal of our said C ^urt to bo hereunto affixed
at Malbaie, on the 18th day of August, A.D. 1870, in the -lOth year of our reign.
CHS. DUBEKGEE,
1440
I, the undersigned sworn bailiff of the Superior Court of the Province of Quebec
appointed for and acting as such in the District of Saguenay, residing in the parish of St.
rtienne de la Malbaie, certify, under my oath of office, that I served this subi'cena on the
witness named therein at St. Eteiimu de la Malbaie, on the 19th August instant, about nine
58 ,
in tho forenoon, HiicivkiiiR to oacli of them in poraoii, ilclivoring to theui a oortitluil io|>y
thereof, and cxliibitiuK to them thiit original.
A. BOIVIN,
B. H. C.
Maluaik, l»th August, 1876.
1460 ycrvicc, $1.80.
57
SUBP(ENA.
CANADA
PROVINCE OV QUEBEC,
Dhtrirt of Sn'/iicniiy.
IN THE SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1871.
ViLToKiA, by tlio (h'iici) of (!od, of tlie United Kingiloiii of Great Britain and Ireland,
Queen Defender of the Fuitli.
To Joseph McLean, Erau(;ois Maltais, of Malbaio, Eusfebe Martel, of Ste. Agnfes,
Zi'phirin Siivard.
1460 We command you thai, laying a.side all and singular busmess and excuses you, and
each of you be, and appear hi your propin' persons before us in our Superior Court for Lower
Canada, in our parish of St. Etieniio de la Malbaie, in the said District, the 18th day of
September, at 10 o'clock in the forenoon of the same day, to testify all and singular those
things which yon know in a certain cause now pending in our said Court before us between
0. BRASSARD et al..
Petitioners ;
[L. S.] . vs.
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Defendant ;
1470 ill the contestation of the Charlevoix election, and this you or either of you shall by no
means omit under the penalty upon each of you of one hundred pound:- currency. •
In testimony whereof, wo have caused the Seal of our said Court to be hereunto
affixed at Malbaie on the 12th day of Sept,, in the year of our Lord 187G, and the 40th
year of our reign.
(Sujneil) CHS. DUBERGER,
I, the undersigned, David Roy, sworn bailiff of the Superior Court of the Province of
Quebec, appointed and acting as such for the District of Saguenay, residing in the parish
of St. Eticnue de la Malbaie, certify under my oath of office that I did personally, on the
1480 13th '^^Y °^ September, 1870, serve this orighial on Fraui;ois Maltais at his domicile
speaking to himseUf ; on Joseph McLean, also speaking to himself, Imvhig met him near the
Court House of the parish of St. Etieuue de la Malbaio, servuig on each of them a true copy
I
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!:
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of the said original, and on Eusfebc Martel, Laving met liim near the court room aiul
speaking to himself, serving on him a true and certified copy of this original which I was
unable to exliibit to him as I did to the two persons first above meutionod, rot having
it in my possession.
Malbaib, 18th September, 1876.
1490 Service, $ .90
Travelling ex. .25
$1.26
DAVID ROY,
B. a. 0.
It
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mi
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SUJJPCENA.
CANADA. )
TKOVINCE UF QUEBEC, I
nutrirt nf Saijucnay. )
IN THE SUPERIOK COUllT.
DOMINION CONTEOVEHTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
1500
VicTOKiA, by the Grace of God, of the Uuitod luiigilom of Great Britahi aiul Irelantl,
Qufcn, Defender of the Faith.
To Denis G.iuthier, Esq., Merchant of St. Fidele, greeting :
We command you that, laying aside all and singular business and excuses you, and
each of you, be and appear iu your proper persons before us in our Superior Court for Lower
Canada, in our parish of St. Eticnne de la Malbaie, in the said District, on the 1st day of
September, at 10 o'clock iu the forenoon of ths sam) day, to testify all and singular those
things which you know in a certain cause now pending in our said Court before us, between
O. BRASSARD et al.,
Petitioners ;
[L. S.]
1510
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
l>i'fendant ,
in the contestation of the Charlevoix election, and this you or cither of you shall by no
means omit under the penalty upon each of you of one huncbed pounds currency.
In testimony whereof, we have caused the Seal of our said Court to bo hereunto
affixed at Malbaie, on the 30th day of August, in the year of our Lord, 1876, and the 40th
year of our reign.
(Siynedj CHS. DUBERGER,
p. s. c.
I, the undersigned, David Roy, sworn Bailiff of the Superior Court of the Province of
Quebec, appointed for the District of Saguonay and acting therein as such, residing in the
1520 P^^rish of St. Etienne de la Malbaie, certify under my oath of office that I did, on the 1st
of September, 1876, in the forenoon, serve this original on Denis Gauthier, having met him
in the village, namely, in Malbaie aforesaid, speaking to himself in person, delivering to him
then and there a true and certified copy of this original and there and then exliibiting to him
the said original.
THOMAS ROY,
Malbaie, Ist September, 1876.
Service; $ .80
60
SUBP(ENA.
1530
''^'"^''^"••^' I IN TffK SUPKKIOR COURT
PROVINCE OF QUKBIX', '
Di.strirl of Sdiiiieiiuij. )
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT. 1874.
VuniiiuA, l.y ih.. Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of (imtt Britaui .md Ireland,
Queen, Defender of tiio Faith.
To John D.'.sbioii.s, of Baie dos Roehors, Elie Miiilloux, Omor Boucliard, Jean Savard,
Fran.;ois Burgeron, sr.; WilHam Savard, Joseph Chamberlaud, Wilfred, atias Fril Tremblay
Dit BaHtien, all of St. Simeon, greeting:
We comuiiind you, that Liyiui,' aside all and singular Ixishioss and excuses you and
1540 '^"•'^'* "' y"" '''-' '"''^ 'IPP'''"' ill .your proper persons before us in our Superior Court of Lower
Canada, hi our parish of St. Etioimo de la Malbaie, in the said District, on the Itli day of
September, at 10 o'clock in the forenoon of the same day, to testify all and singular those
things which you kuow iu a certain cause now pending in our said Court before us between
O. BRASSARD, et al.,
I'l'titinners ;
vs.
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Dii't'iiditnt ;
in the contestation of the Charlevoix election, and this you or either of you shall by no
1550 means omit, under the penalty upon each of you of one hundred pounds currency.
In testimony whereof, wo have caused the Seal of our said Court to be hereunto
affixed, at Malbaie, on the 1st day of September, in the year of our Lord, lH7(i, and the 40th
year of our reign.
[L. S.]
{Svjtml,)
CHS. DUBERGER,
p. s. c.
I, the undersigned, David Roy, sworn Bailifif of the Superior Court of tlio Province
of Quebec, appohited for the District of Sagueuay, and acting therein as such, residing in
the parish of St. Etiomie de la Malbaie, certify under my oath of otfico that I did, on the
second day of September, 1870, in tLe afternoon, serve this origmal on Johnny Desbicns, Elie
1560 Malloux, Oilier Bouchard, Wilhain Savard, Fril Tremblay, speaking to them in person, and
Frani^ois Bergeron and Jean Savard, speaking to reasonable persons of their families, leaving
i m
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to each of them true certified oopieH and exhibiting to thorn thoru iiiul tliuu the said orifjiiial.
Malbaie, 4th September, 1870.
From the Court House at Malbaie to Baie dos llochcrs, distance travelled i',) miles.
Johnny DesbieuB, received his travelling expenses paid by mo $5.00.
DAVID ROY,
Service $2.40
Trav. ex. 7.25
1570 Total mm
62
SIlSi'dlNA
'" CANADA. \ IN Tin: sri'KlilOU COURT.
I'HOVINCK OF QUEBEC.'-
IHtlrill r./' •V((;/l/.H((l/. I
DO.MIMOX CONTliOVKUTlCn KLECTIONS ACT, 1H7«,
|!
I
VicT'iiiiA, liy tli>' ilrac(! of (iod, of the Unit'il Kin^'doiu of Grout nritain ainl Irolaml,
(,)ii. II DcffudiT of tlio Fiiitli.
To Acliillr IJlieror, (((ij/oiro Tromblay, Fraauois Dallairo lih de Louis, Francois
TroniMny ftln trHillairi!, FonlinaiKl Boiit'lianl, Iijiiacu Oiiolk't, Thomas Savai-d, Om^siiuu
1580 Tiumblay fih d'llillairo, Aiigusto Diifour, Nazaire Jit^riiW, Frani;oirt Trumbluy <lii I'icotp,
NarcisBO Dassylvii, Rrcoting:
Wo fouimaud you, that laying asido all and Hingular business a.id oxcusos you, and
oac'li of you bo and app.'ar in your propnr jiorson bi.'foru us, in our Hiiproiaj Court for Lower
Canada, in our iiansli of St. Etionno de la Malbaio, in tlio said di Iriut, on tlio flth day of
September, at ten o'clock in the forenoon of th.; same day, to testify all and siii^,'ular those
thiugs which you know in a certain cause now pending in our said Court iK'fore uh, Ijetween
0. BKASSAUD, et al.,
PililiditerK;
[L, S.]
ITiOO
vs.
Hon. U. L. L ANGEVIN,
Defendant.
HI the contestation of the Cliarlcvoix election, and this you or either of you, shall by no
moans omit under the penalty, upon each of you, of one hundred pounds curroucy.
Li tosthnoay whoroof, we have caused the Hjal of our said Court to bo hereunto
affixed at Malbaie, on the 1st day of yeptembur in the year of our Lord 187C, and the 40th
year of our reign.
( Siijiwl. )
CIIS. DUBEliGER,
p. s. c.
I the undersigned David Roy, sworn Bailiff of the Superior Court of tlic Province
1600 of Quebec, appointed for the District of Saguenay, and acting theroiu as such, residing m
the parish of St. Etienno de la Malbaio, certify under my oath of office that I did, ou the
2nd day of September, 187(>, in the forenoon serve this o' iginal on Auguste Dufour, Francois
Tremblay, Thomas Savard, speakmg to them in person, and to Nazaire J5erub6, Ouesime
Tremblay, Gregoiro Tremblay, F'rani.'ois Tremblay, Fraui;ois Dallairo, speaking to reasonable
iJ,
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porsoiiB of tlicir fuiuuliea, to Fenliiiaiul Iloucliivrd in tlin afturnoon of tho Hamu day, siH'iikiin,'
to liimsulf 111 porHon aud to Ikuhco OuoUot, NarcinHC Dansylva in tlu' foronooii, on thu fifth
day of Soptembor, HiioakiuK to them in pornoii, l.-aviug to each of thorn, true cortilioc'. copioH
and oxliiLituifi to thorn, t'lere and thou, the 'ud original.
DAVID ROY,
1810
B. H. (',
Malbaif, 6th September, 1870.
For travelling ex., iioe the originnil subpoena for St. Simeon.
Service $8.80.
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64
SUBP{ENA.
.'AN A DA \
PROVINCE OF QUEBEC,
DIntrirt of Saijiienai/. )
IN THE HUPEHIOll COLTlT.
DOMINION CONTUOVEIITED ELECTIONS ACT, 1871.
Vi TORiA, by tlio Graco of God, of the United Kingdom of Groat ]5ritaiu and Ireland,
1620 Quorn Defender of tlio L'aitli.
To I'. N. Bois, Joseph Duclieue, J. P., Tliomas Goto, Andre Bouchard, Louis
Gautliior Esq., J.P., Josepli Cimon, Arseiie Simard, Samuel Boivin, of Bale St. Paul,
greethig :
We command you, that laymi^ aside all and sinj,'nlar business and excuses, you and
each of you b'' and appear in your proper person before us in our Superior Court for Lower
Canada, in our parish of St. Etiemie do la Malbaie, in the said district, on the i)th day of
Septemljer, at ten o'clock in the forenoon of the same day, to testify, all and singular those
things which you know in a certain cause now pending in our said Court, before us, between
0. BRASSARD b;t al.,
1630 Pdiliinicrs;
[L. S.] vs.
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
• Di'fcndoHt.
in the contestation of the Charlevoix election, and this you or either of you, shall by no
means omit luider the penalty upon each of you, of one hundred pounds currency.
In testimony whereof, wo have caused the Seal of our said Court to bo hereunto
affixed at Malbaie, on the 8th day of September, in the year of our Lord 1870, and lOth
year of our reign.
CHS. DUBERGER,
1640
p. s. c.
I, the undersigned, A. Boivin, sworn Bailiff of the Superior Court of the Province of
Quebec, appointed for and acting as such in the District of Saguenay, residing in the parish
of St. Eticnuc do la Malbaie, certify under my oath of office that I served this subpoena
on the persons named therein, leaving to each of them a certified copy thereof in the parish
of St. Etienne de la Malbaie, speaking to themselves about nine o'clock m the evening, the
8th day of September instant. rotVTN
D. S. C.
Malbaie, 9th September, 1876.
1650 Service $2.40
2 CANADA. I
PROVINCE OF QUEBEC,
DiKtriit of Sdiruiiai/, I
65
SUBPCENA.
IN THE KUPEIilOll COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
VicTouiA, by tho Oracc oi (io.l, of the Uiutad Kingdom of Groat Britain and Ireland,
Quoen Defender of the Faith.
To CleophasCoto, and F. X. Desgagne, mariners, both of Ics Eboulemeuts, greeting:
Wr command you, that laying aside all and shigular business and excuses, you and
1660 eacli of you bo and appear in your proper person before us m our Superior Court for Lower
Canada, iu our parish of St. Etienne do la Malbaie, in the said district, on the 21st day of
• Au-nist mst, at ten o'cock m the forenoon of the same day, to testify all and singular, the
things which you know in a certain cause now peniiug iu our said Court, before us, between
0. BRASSARD, et al.,
Petitioners ;
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Defendant ;
m the contestation of the Charlevoix Election, and this you, or either of you, shall by no
1670 means omit, under the penalty, upon each of you, of one hundred pounds currency.
Li testimony whereof, we have caused the Seal of our said Court to be hereunto
aflixed, at Malbaie, on the 19th day of August, in the year of our Lord 1876, and m the 40th
yerr of our reign.
[L. S.]
CHS. DUBERGER,
1". s. c.
I the undersigned David Roy. sworn Bailiif of the Superior Court, appointed for the
District of Saguenay, and acting therem as such, residing in the Parish of St. Ehenno de la
Malbaie, certify, under my oath of otUce. that I did personally serve, on the 21st Angus ■
187G between eic^ht and nine o'clock in the forenoon, true certifaed copies of this origmal,
1680 ClX Cot! and Francois Xavier Desgagn. having met them at the Village of M.rie,
in the Parish of St. Etienne de la Malbaie, speaking to each of them m person, and exhibit-
ing to them there and then this original. ^^^^^ ^^^
B. S. C.
Malbaie, 21st August, 1876.
Service, $0.60
f, II
Hi
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SUnPCENA.
CANADA. \
PUOVINCF, OF QUEBEC. '
. OjU District of Sdjiuinni/. )
IN THE SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
VicToiiiA. by tliu (Jriicu of God, of tlio United Kingdom of Groat Britain and Irolaud,
Quccii Defender of tlie Fiiitli.
To Maxime Dufour, now of St. Pierre d'Orleans, Greeting :
We connnand you tliat, laying aside all and singular Inisiae.ss and excuses, you and
each of you be and appear in your proper person b-.fore us in our Superior Court for Lower
Canada, in our P.iriHl. of St. Ktienue do la Malbaie, in the said District, on the 2Ut day of
August inst.. at ten o'clock in the forenoon of the same day, to testify all and singular those
things which you know, in a certain cause now pending in our said Court, before us,
1700 between
0. BRASSARD, et al.,
Petiliomrs ;
[L. S.] vs.
Hox. H. L. LANGEVIN,
DefeiKlant ;
in the contestation of the Charlevoix Election, and this you, or either of you, .shall by no
means omit, under the penalty upon each of you of one hundred pounds ourreucy.
In testimony whereof, we have caused the Seal of our said Court to be hereunto
affixed, at Malbaie, on the lOtli day of August, in the year of our Lord, 1870, in the 40th
1710 y*-'"^' '^^ ^^'"' i'<5'Sn.
CHS. DUBERGER,
p. s. c.
I, the undersigned David Roy, sworu Bailiff for the Provmco of Quebec, appointed
for the District of Saguenay, and acting therein as such, rosidnig in the parish of St.
Etienne de la Malbaie, certify under my oath of office that I did personally serve, on the
21st day of August, 1870, between eight and nine o'clock in the forenoon, a true and
certified cojiy of this original on Maxime Dufour, having mot him at the Villag» Marie, in
the parish of St. Etienne do la Malbaie, speaking to himself in person, and exliibithig to him
there anii then this original.
172U DAVID ROY,
Malbaie, 21st August, 1870.
Service, $0.30.
B. 8. C.
U7
SL'1!1'(KN\.
14 CANADA.
rilOVlNCE OF gUElSEC,
I}i.<lri.l of Stujiiniitji
IN THE SLTEUIOl! COURT.
DUMINION CONTllOVEKTEl) ELECTIONS ACT. 1M71.
VitToiiiA, Uy the Oraco of (iotl. of tlif Uiiili;J Kingdom of Gruiil Ih'itaiu tuul Irelauil,
1730 Queen Dofoiuler of tlie Faith.
To !.h-et,'oiro Trciubhiy, I'imv Tremhiay, Frau^'ois Treiublay, Aiitoiiii.' liouchurd,
Aiitoiuu Gauthier, Neroii Gauthicr, all of St. Hilarioii, (h-ootiii},' :
We comiuaiul you that, hiyiug a^idu all and siu^^ular business and excuses, you and
each of yon be and aiipcar in your piopir iiersons before us in our Superior C urt for Lower
Canada, in the said District, on thr 'ilst day of Auj,'ust instant, at ten o'clock in the forenoon
of the same day, to testify all and siiif,'ular tlie things which you know in a certain cause
now pending in our said Court, before us, between
O. BRASSARD, kt al.,
Fetitioners ;
vs.
Hon. TI. L. LANGEVIN,
Defendant ;
1740 [L- «•]
in the contestation of the Charlevc x Election, and this you, or either of you, sliall by no
means omit, under the penalty, upon eacli of you, of one hundred pounds currency.
In testimony whereof, we have caused the Seal of our said Court to be hereunto
affixed, at Malbaic, on the 10th day of August, in the year of our Lord 1876, in the 40th
year of our reign.
CHS. DUBERGER,
1 750 I, the undersigned David Roy, one if the sworn Bailiffs for the Superior Court for the
Province of Quebec, appohited for the District of Saguenay. and acting therein as such
residing in the parish of St. Etienne de hi Malbaie. certify under my oath of office that I
served personally, on the 21st day of Augu.t. l«7fi. between 9 aud 10 o'ebek .■ *!,. forenoon,
two certified copies of this original on Gregoire Tremblay, Pierre TremWay, Irai^ois Trem-
blay Antoine Bouchard, Autoine Gauthier, Ncron Gauthier, having met them at their
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temporarily olcoti'd doiuieili', at tlic lioiisc of Norl)ort Girard, furmcr, in tin (mri^li of St,
Etiemif! do la Malbaio, spraking to thoiUHolvoH in poriioii. niiil exhibiting to tlicui then' and
then this original.
DAVIJ) IKJY,
1760
B. s. u.
Malbaie, 21st August, 1H70.
Service, $1.80.
(V.I
srm'd'.NA.
CANADA. ]
I'llOVlNCKOiQll'^nEC,
Phli-'Ct r>l' Sii'jiKii'i;/. '
IN THli sri'KlilOU I'OUUT.
)()MINl()N CONTHOVKlITi:!) HI.KOTIONS ACT, 1H71.
V,,To,.>,v. l.y the (}nu.. ul (lo,!, of 1,1... VmlA lui.^'l>.u nl Ovrai l!nt.„> and livl.uul,
Qiiiion IX'foiiilur (if till) Fiiilli.
1 -.,, To Tlumias Laroiuto, Au^m.ti.. Tivuil.lay. I'iooU-. Jnu, Murnty, I'qM,. (laj-non, John
Lapoiut.., J...C1.1. 1! nulmnl, son of Alexis, Josopb Trciublay, Narcisso (iaK.ion. ISarthc-lem.
Uouchanl, Amablo tliraid, all of Malbaio— Greotinj,'.
Wo command vouthut, laying asi.l.MiU and Mngulur buHiness and oxcuses, you and
oach of you bo and appuar b.lo,-.. us, in your proper person., in our Superior "ourt for LoNvr
Canada, in our I'.uisb ot St. Eticuno d. la Malbaio, in tlu- said District, the 2-.. 1. day ot
Au.ru^t instant, at ten of tho dock in thv forenoon of tho sanio day, to testify all and singular
thol. things ^vhic■b you luiow in a certain ea.so now ponding before u^ in our said Curt,
between
1780
[L. 8.]
O. BRASH AliD, et al.,
riiitiuiiers ;
vs.
Hon. II. L. LANGEVIN,
1 )r/'''ii<lciil ,
1790
.„ the contestation of the Charlevoix election, and this you or either of you .hall by no
means omit, under tho penalty upon each of you of one hundred pounds currency.
In testimony whereof, wo have caused the seal of our said Court to he hereunto
affixer., a. Malhaic, oa the 28th day of August, iu tho year of our Lord, 187<i, and the 4Uth
year of our reign.
CHS. DUBEltGER,
p. ». u.
I the undersigned, David Hoy, sworn Bailiff of the Superior Court of the Province of
.,,.•-. .}j.. p:...j.i»* 'if «a"ii"nay "I'd actins? therem as such, residing in the
pi^sromlt^eixnJ de la Malbue, corUiy. under my oath of oi«oe, that 1 did, on the 20th
day of August, 187G, in the afternoon, serve this original on Frs. Lapointe, Joseph Tremblay
John Lapoint. , Augustin Tremblay, Joseph Bouchard, Pepiu Clagnon. Jean Murray, by
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I;f!
Is.**
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Icaviiif^ to ouch of thorn true oortin«il copies of thi,, ori^iiml. ,\. jit ;k-. i.. Frs. Laiiointi' -,
wli.'iv I Mpokp t.) a roftsoimblo i>crHon of Iuh family, .;xl»ibiUilK to oiieli ol tlicui, iliciv lu.l
thun, thiH oriKiiial.
MALUjt'R, 2!)tli AugUHt, 1870.
1800 DiBtancc tr tvoUeil, nearly nailon.
DAVID RUY,
B. M. < ,
Service, $2.10
Trav. ox., 2.26
$1.85
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srin'(p:NA.
(•AN.\l)A I IN Till': SUPERIOR COL'liT.
PUOVINCE OF glJEBEC.
1S]0 DOMINION 'JONTUOVKUTED KLECi'lON'S .VCT, IS71.
VicToKiA, by tho Cinice of (lod, of Uic UnittHl Kiii-aoui of (iri'iil Bi-it.iiu and l.-ehuid,
(jueoii, Dufomler of the Eiiitli.
To lfiib.it Tremblay, Louis Troiiiblay, On.'>iiu(3 I'ilott-, Ktioiiiiu l)ost,'ii.-ii6, Frs.
Savard, Autoiiie Gauthifir, Junto I'.ouclKird, llwb.rt foulond,., Jn.n Mailloux, ll.rb.rt
Ginird, David (lilb rt dc St. llilain. --Ciivctiiif,'.
Wo command you tbat, layiii),' asi lo all and siu^'ulav busiurss and oxcusrs, you ;r.d
each of you bo and appta-. iii your proper persons b.lo,v us, i,: our Supini-.v Court for Low-r
Canada,"iu oar Parish of St. Eticnno do la Malbaic, in tUo said District, on tlio •2!)th day ot
August instant, at ton o'clock in the forouo(..n of the same day, to testify all and siii-u",.r the
1820 things winch you know in a certain cause now pending before ua, in our said Court, between
O. liRAHSARD f.t al.,
Pi'liiiiiiiirn :
[L. S.|
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Defevtiant ;
m the contestation of the Charlevoix election, and tliis you or either of yon shall by no m.'.WH
omit, under the penalty upon each of you of one hundred pounds currency.
Ll testimony whereof, wo have caused tlie seal of our said Ooart to be hereunto
atnxed, at Malbaie, on the 28th day of August, in the year of our f.ord 1870. and the lOti,
CMS. DUJ5ERUER.
V. S. 0.
I, the undersigned, David Roy, sworn Bailiff of the Stipenor Court of the Provmce of
Quebec, appointed for the District of Saguenay, and acting as such thoreni, residing m tdie
Parish of St. Etienne de la Malbaie, certify, under my oath of otHco, that I did on the 29th
day of August, 187«, in the forenoon, servo this original on Ilub.rt Trembla^ ( ne.mv^
Pilotte. Etienno Desgagnd, Antoine Gauthier, Juste Bouchard. Octavo Bouchard. Herbert
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Coulombo, Joan MaiUoux, Norbert Ginird, David Gilbnrt, by loavin;; to .'ach of theiu truf
certified copies of thin original, speaking to them personally, and oxhibiting to them, there
1840 and then, this original.
DAVID ROY,
B. S. C.
Malbaie, 29th August, 1876.
Service, $3.00.
(.'ANAIJA.
PROVINCE OF qUEBKC.
f}l.<lrhi III' S'lyiriitt;!.
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SUBIHENA.
IN TUE SUPEIUOU CUUltT.
DOMINION CONTIIOVEIITED KLECTIONS ACT. 1871.
1850 Vrtok.a, l.y the (Imc- of Oo.l, ..f ih- IhnU'A Kin-.lom ut (h.at Hrit un aiul In-lmia,
C^uoeii, Defoiiilei- oi' tho Fiiilli.
To Aususto Haciuu, Mniso Tieiublay, Potito Riviere,— (Jreetiu^'.
W. command you tlmt. Liyiug asi.lo all aiul sinRular business and excusos. you and
.acli of y.n h. and .i-!K.>r in your inorer iktsohs before us, in our Superior Ccurt for Lower
Cauada.iiiour Parish of St. J^tieuu.Mle la MaU.de. in the said District, the 12th day ot
July iiistaut, at tcu o'clock ui the foreuoou of the same day, to testify all and suiKular those
things which you know in a certain cause now pending m our said Court before us, between
0. BRASSARD kt al.,
Petitiitiicrt :
1860 [L.H.]
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Dffciiilaiit ;
„. the cont,^stati..n of the Charlevoix election, and this you or either of you shall by no
means omit, uu.ler penalty to each of you of one hundred pounds currency.
In testimony whereof, we have caused the seal of our said Court to be hereunto
affixed at Malbaie. Uns 5th day of July, in the year of our Lord 1870. and m the K.th year
of our reign.
CHS. DUBERGER,
H. S. C.
, c.n I, the undersigned, Bailiff of the Superior Court for the District of Saguenay, cert.iy,
^ ' „ndermyoaU.ofomce,thatI .Ud serve these Sui,panux. on the witneSBes namal thcrem,
loavin.' t^, each of them a copy thereof at their domicile, at la P.tite Riv.fcre St. Iran n.
sp
,eakmg to Augusto Racine in person, and the other on a reasonable person of h,s f.uad.
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and the said Auguate Racine having told me that he could not go to the Court without
receiviug his travelling expenses.
J. Bte. TREMBLAY,
B, S. C.
Paie St. Paul, 10th July, 1876.
Scrv. Sab.
1880 Trav. ex. 18 9
£18 9
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SIBIHENA.
CANADA. , IN Tlllv SUl'lUnoK C'OlliT.
I'KOVINCK OF gUHBKC,
IH.'lrkt ul Sivjunt'iil )
DO. UNION CONTKOVEUTEi) ELECTIONS ACT, 1H7I.
\H;iiniiA, liy llie (JTiico of (iod, of tin; Liiild Kin.;. loin of liroilt IJritaiu iiml Irt'liiii'l, QuuL'ti,
Dofouder (jf the Fnitii.
To Sorii]iliiii Tiviulilay, I'itrr (lillnn-t, Niiiiuleoii Tronil.Liy, I'ici-ic IJonrnisi, Xnviii'
ISDO ('iriii'l, Aliihiii (iii;;iioii — (in itiii;,'.
\\i' coiiiiniind you tliat, layiii;,' aside nil and sin;.,'iil:u- liusitu'ss and I'xousiv,, you aud
each of you 1)0 anil niiii.'nr in yoiir prnii.r person^ licforc us in our Superior C'ourt for fiOWiT
Canada, lu our pari.tli of St. KtiiNinr d^ l,i MiiUiiU-, in tin.' suid district, tlio I'itli .lay of
, at ti'U oeloc'k in the forenoon of the same day, to testify all and sinj,' ilar
tliobt! tliin;,'s svhieli you know in a cjrtani eanse now p'nliu:,' in our ^.li 1 Court iieforo us,
botweou
0. r>l!ASSi\UD ET Ai...
Pititiiinirn ;
vs.
Hon. II. L. LAXCKVIN,
l>('l'iiiil(tiil ;
[L. S.|
I'.lOO
in tliG contestation of the Charlevoix election, ind this yon or .dtlier of you shall hy
no ineans omit, under tlio piiialty upon each of yoi '<( one hundred pomids enrr'iiey.
In witness whereof, we have caused the seal of our sail Court to h^ herea ito ntllxed
at Malbaie, on the day of , in the year of our Lord ly"ti, and ni
the fortieth year of our reiyn.
CHS. DUBERGER,
J'niUiiiiiutKri/ Iff l/ii- Snjirrinr ('•mrt.
[trui; copy.]
1910 FRS. LANCELIER,
Attoriu']! for I\-tiluincrx.
I. the nudj'rsi'rned hailitT of the Superior Court of the District of Sa,','uenay, c-'r^ify,
under my oath of office, that I served this subpirna on the witnesses named, by leaving' with
each copies thereof, at their domiciles at St. Urhaln, speaking to thf.mnelves, except Pierre
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flil'ifrt, ill wliiiMc civsi' I ^pokp to i riii^omihlc |it<rsoii nf hi-i family, mul Nnpolt^oii TrHiiil)Iit>
wIj mis not rtorved, iiml Xiivior (tiraiil liciug aliHcnt frotn the {iIiut,
J HTK. TUKMllLAY,
U. X, 0.
Haik St. I'mii.. stli July, 187S.
1920 Serving, Id
Travelling' ovp., I!) 1)
tl 8 I)
I i
l!)30
77
(SUBl'(KNA.
. ANAI»\. I IN TllH Sll'KinoU CUL'UT.
I'llOVINC'K Ol-' QrHMKC.
ttulriel n/S-fi,iiiiii'/. I
DOMINIUN CONTUOVKHTHI) HLl-X'TIONS ACT, 1K71,
V.cn.itiA, l.y tl.n (Irae.. of (io,l, of the Uiiito.l Kuij.lom of (Iroat Dnlam >vn,\ li'olan.l. g.inou.
Dffi'HiU'r of till) t'liitli.
To Tlunuas Ga-uou, Fr,u.>;ois llarvy, an,! J. lu llarv.y, all fann.iH of Malbaio.
We coiniua.ul vou that, laviiis .isi,Il. a'.l l.usi.i...Hs and fxcusrs, you aiwl < adi of yoa ho
ami ai.i-.ar ... iH..'so,.V,.fo.-. .is. iu our .a.d Court for tin. District of Sa-.. ...ay. oi. th- -.^'l.th
day of July, .it tc. o'clock i.. tliu fore..oou of tUu same ,luy. to l.-tify all tl.os,. tl....j,'s wh.ch
you ki.ow i.l a cortaii. cause i.ow i.einli.i- i.. the said Court before us between
O. liUASSAUD KT At..,
pilitiiiwn :
Hon. II. L. LANGEVIN,
Dii'dlilillil ;
1040 in the co.itestatio,. of ti.o Cl.arlovoix eloctiou, and thi. you or eitl.'r of you s' - by
■ no means o.uit, uuder the penalty upo.i each of you of t.... l.ou..ds cu.rency.
In witness ^vl.ereof, wo have ea.ised the s.al of our said Court to l,e h.^reu..to affixed,
at Malbaie. on the sixth day of July, iu the year of our Lord 1H7 . -u.d .n the
year of our rei|,'u.
ClIS. UUBEKGER,
I', s. r. I). 8.
1^
I the undersigned Ernest Hoiviu. one of the sworn bailiffs of the Superior Com t fnr
tlie Province of Quebec, .ippoinred to act as such ... the District of .,.ue,.,y. res.d...^ ... Uie
Parish of St. Etienno do la Malbaie, do hereby certify, under my <.ath ot othce. that I sened
1 qr^n this copy of subpoena upon Jea.. Harvey. Fra.icois Harvey, and Thoma : (,a,uon, pp^aknig
^^^^ to them personally, on tins 7tu day of July, IBT.. ..bout three o'clock .u the afteruoon,
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shovving tliom then anil thero this origiual, and loaviiij^ with eacli of thorn a true and certifiod
copy thereof, I certify that the distance travelled by the witnessoa is about four miles. *
ERNEST BOIVIN,
B. S. (',
Malbaie, 7th Tuly, 1806.
Serving, 'J cts.
Travelling exp., 1 00
$1 90
1960
79
SUBP(HNA.
CANADA. ) IN THE SUPERIOR COURT.
I'HOVlNCi': OF gUEHEC,
in^trkl'ij' S'f.lili'iiiiil. I
DOMI-aoN CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, H71.
V. -TOKu. l.y th^ (iracc of God, of tho Unit,-. I KinK-lom of (4reat Britain ami Ireland, Queen,
Dofeucler of tiie Eaitli.
To Lc.andro C -W, Cieopbas Trcublay. both farmers of Ste. Aguts, Joseph Bergeron.
Ico a famor of Ste A.n.es, we e.an.nau.l you that, layh^g aside all business and cxeuses you
1Z L r y t a^ appear u. person be.>re us, iu our sa.d Court, in our Parish of St.
l970"ttrcdlaMalbaie,n;the said district on the 8th day of July instant, at ten o dock n,
i!;ri;lr;.f t,. saul day, to testify all those thin.s w.ueh you know n. a e.rtan. cause
now pending in the said Court before us, between
0. BRASSARD et al..
Petiliiinii-1 i
vs.
Hon. H. L. LANOEVIN,
Di'fendant ;
.a the eontestation of the Charlevo.K elect.on ; and this you or e.ther of you shall by no
Ian. onut. under the penalty upon eaeh of you of ten pounds eurroncy.
> .■ vv,. I.„ve euiscd the seal of our said Court to bo hereunto affixed,
1980 1" -^"- ^-7 ; 7 ;X a U ' -V of our Lord 187.5, and in the ..tieth year of
at Malbaie, on the 6th day of .lul>, "' ui^ >
our reign.
ClIS. DUBERCiER,
l>. S, C. I). 8.
vm^imixmmim^
rymm^r^^i*mm^'mmlm|ml9l^^^
r
80
1990 tlicir housohoWs, this 8tli day of July, 1870, botweoii lour aiul tivo o'clock iu the aftcr-
uooii, shewing Ihoin thou ami thoru this origiual, and loavui|j; with uach of thorn a true and
certified copy thereof.
I certify that the distance travelled for the witnesses is about fourteeu miles.
ERNEST BOIVIN,
B. S. 0.
Malbaie, 8th July, 1870.
Service, 00 cts.
Travelling ex., 3 50
$i 40
mm
'■#■"
:■(«.■;
2000
>1
SilihKNA.
m
rxs\{).\. I IN Till-: sri'KKlOK CDl'ltr.
IMiOVINCK OF Ql'r.HHC,'-
DOMINION (ONTllOVEUTEl) HLliCTIONS ACT, ls7t.
Vu.lOHlA, liy till- (ifilCU of
(loil, of tlio L'liit.Ml Iuut,'.loiu of (ircitt r.ntiiiu luul Ir'l.iml, Qu(;on,
Dcfi'iider of tlic Faith.
To Francois Gii^'iion, t-iir
kT, of Malliai", luiil Diuil Dasylva-*, lanuor, also
Ml
\Vc coiniuaii
il vim. til it layiii!,' asulo all buaiuos:< iiml oxcnsos you an
ll :jftC!ll of von In
2010 and apiiour in i>i'r.^on Ixjfor' us in ouf sai
1 Court for ill ■ Dislriot of S.yu Miay, on tin'
ilay of
at D^» o'clock in tlio forni'
the said dav, to testify all thos
things which you know in
L'rtain causo now p.'iidiii',' in tii ■ said Court h.'fon! us, hftweiMi
0. BUASSAKD kt k\..
I'llilidiifin :
Hon. U. ].. LAN(iEVIN,
in tlio contostation
inoaiis omit, uii
)f tho Charlevoix dectin
Ihfi'iiilaiil
and this vou or oithi'r of >i)U slml! by no
li>r till' iii'naity uiion cuch o
f voii of tun poiinds currency.
2020
In witnoss whoroof, w(! havo cii
•d the Seal of our ..li
d Court to 1)1' h-'riuuto atlixcd
lit Mii'iViaiij, -111 tin- 1^1
r _.T Ti'ii.jn.
xth dav of .luly. in the your of our
Lord. IHTI), tuh] in the -JOtli year of
CHS. DUnFUGFR,
p. n. c, n. 9.
li
I the uudcHisned. Ernest Boivui. one of the s^voru lUiUffs of the Superior Court for
the I'nnincc of Quebec, appo.utcd for and act.u, us such in the Distrie, "f ^"^""-y-
sidini. in th. parish of St. Etieune do la Malba.o. do liereby certi.y under my oath of oftce
^rrT"s'rve,l ins copy of subpa.ua on David D..ilvu o„ ,!,e .th dav .-f July, .nd on
Fnlli. Gaguon on tie 7th day of July. 187G. botween noon and one o'clock, speaking to
■MP»
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2030 tli.m personally and showinj,' to tlium tlum and tli.n' tiiin on;,'iiiai and l.'uviii^' with imcIi u|
tlicm a triiu and curtifiuJ copy thoroof.
Distance travelled for the witnesses 4 miles.
Malbaie. 7tli July, 1870.
Serving, - .00
Travelling expenses 1.00
$1.00
ERNEST ROIVIN,
H. a. ('.
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SI lilMKNA.
liOKI lAN.Ut.,
I'HOVINCK OV yi Kl
PiMlrirl III' S'lijiii iiiti.
IN TiiK si'i'F,i;ioii coritT.
I'UOVKUTKD KI.KUTIONS ACT, 1h7J.
\i. Kiiiiv. l)y the (iiMr ■ ut' {lo,l, .if tli I'liild Kiii^'ilom olMinat liritiiiii ami rri'liuul, Qii.ieii
D.'lV'iiil. r (if the Faitl
T«i llfuli A.^-.' I'll, Zqiliinii Siiviml, Duurtiuu' licri^'iron, Josuiili Itoiiclivaii, Zi'pluiiii
Uergurou. 1 liivu'ii Villuucuvc, Aiiuais' Ass.'liii, all fanners, and Narcn^sc Lajoio, blafkHinith,
all of tlio t(iun;,lii|i .if .S«'ttriii','ti)ii, aiul dinic Savanl, farmer, also of tlio same jilauc.
\Sv I : ,,oii, that laying asido all business ami exeiises ymi ami each of ymi \w
2050 ami appear i before us iu our said Court, in our parish of St. Hti. iiiie de la Maliiaie,
III till) said i on the lUlli day uf July instant, at ten o'clock in the forenoon nf tin
said day, to I ,< all those things which you know in a lerlain cause now pending' in the
said Court heiure us, betwuou
O. BUASSAHl), K.T Ai..,
/'I'liliollflS .
VH.
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Defpiiilani :
in the contestution of the Charlevoix election, and this you ^or either of you shall by no
In witness wh. .if, wc have caused tho seal of <nir said Court to be heivunt i allixed
at Malbaie, on the lith day of July, in the year of our Lor.l, IhTC, ami in the llitli year of
our rei^'ii.
CIIS. DUHKUGKH,
1'. 8. c :•. ►•
1, the undersigned, Knu-st lioivin, one of the sworn Bailitis nf the Superior Coart for
ihe Province of Quebec, appointed for and acting as such in the District of Sa-muviy. residing
,n the village of Nairn, in the parish of St. Eticnne de la Malbaie, do hereby certay under
mv oath of othce thai I served this copy of subpneua on lieule Asselin, Zepherin Savard,
2070ju"s.-ph Boudroau. Zophirin Bergeron, A.mais Asselin, Narcisse liajole and (Jorne Savard,
speakin.' to them personally, and upon Onesime Bergeron and Flavien Villeneuv.., speaking
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to roiiHOuablt; porsous of thoir housL'hoklH ou tliu 7th aQd 8th days of July, 1870, iiail
showmg them then and there this original and leaving with each of thuin a true and
certified copy thereof.
I certify that the distance travelled for the witnesses is about ten leagues.
EENEST BOIVIN,
u. s. c.
Malbaie, 8th July, 1876.
Serving, - 2.70
2080 Travelling expenses 7.50
$10.20
i^"
r;
80
SLJUVENA.
m
(AX AIM.
PROVINCK OF Ql _,
Didrirt 0/' Siiijiiinni/. )
I IN THE SUPElilOll COURT.
'KnEC. '
DOMINION CONTllOVEllTEl) ELECTIONS ACT, 1871.
VicToKiA, by tliu Gvaco of Goil, of the UiiitfJ Kiiiydom of Groat Britain and Irolaud, Queen
Defender of tlio Faitli.
To Btauislas Brassard, farmer, of St. Fidelti, — Grcctin;,':
2090 Wo command you, that laying aside all business and oxcuscs, you and each of you, be
and appear in person before us in our Superior Court for Lower Canada, in our parish of
St. Etienno de la Malbaie, iu the said District, on the Vtli day of .luly instant, at ton o'clock
m the forenoon of the said day, to testify all those things which you know in a certain cause
now 2)ending in our ^aid Cou''* before us, between
O. BliAHSARD, ET AL.,
Pi'iili'niers ;
vs.
Hon-. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Di'j'i'iKliiiit ;
2100 iu the contestation of the Charlevoix Election, and this you, or either of you, shall by no
mer-is omit, under the penalty, upon each of you, of one hundred pounds currency.
ill witiiess whereof, wo have caused the Seal of our said Court to bo Inn'ounto afHxcd
at Malbaie, on the 7th day of .July instant, hi the year of our Lord 1870, and in the 40tli
year of our reign.
CHS. DUBEBGEE,
PmihoiKitarji of the Siiin'riar Court.
I, the undersigned Ernest Boivin, a sworn Bailiff of the Superior Court for the
Province of Quebec, appointed for and acting as such in the District of Saguenay, residing
iu the parish of St. Etiouiio de la Malbaie, do hereby certify under my oath of office that I
91 1 n served this subpa>iia upon Stanislas Brassard, speaking to him personally, on this 7tli day
of .luly, 187(3, about ten o'clock iu the forenoon, and showing to liim then and there this
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ori-iiial, auJ leaving witn liim a uortificd copy thereof. I further certify that the Ji-stauiT
travelled to aummou witness is about two miles.
ERNEST BOIVIN,
B. S. L'.
Malbaie, 7th July, 1876.
Serviug SO cts.
Travelling expenses 50
■80 cts.
tt'
87
2120
sriU'iKNA.
CANADA.
I'HOVINCK (JF QUHBEC,
llUtriil iif Siiijiwiiaii'
IN TlIK SUPHlUOl; coriiT.
I'OMINLON CONTUOVEUTKD KLECTIONS ACT. 1H7I.
Vici.aiiA, l.y tlio <!ia.i' »t God, ot thf Uiiik'd Kingdom of Orciit Britain and Irulaud,
tjuouii, Defender of tlie Faith.
To Tliomas Trembhiy, farmer, St. Fiuele; Andre Cl.irre, Malbiiie; Tlio.ims Treniblay,
St. Sim6un, farmer; Thoma« Uoucli.ird, Port Percil; Vital llarviiy, .Malbaio ; Barth61emi
GaKUe, farmer, Ht. Simeon ; Tliomas Savard, farmer, St. Simeon.
*>13l! ^^'"^ command you that. layin« aside all busines,-; and exeuses, you and e„eii -f you
"^ ' be and appear in person before us, in our Cireuii Court for th.^ Distriet of Sn-ucnay,
ill the said District, on the 8th day of August instant, at ton o'clock in the forenoon of
the said day, to testily all those thhigs which you know m a certain cause now pending in
the said Court, before us, between
0. BllASSAlU), KT AL.,
/'cliliniiers ;
VS.
Hon. II. L. LANGEVIN,
Defendant ;
9140 a. the contestation of the Charlevoix Election, and this yon, or either of yon, shall by no
means omit, under the penalty upon each of you of ten pounds currency.
In witness whereof, we have caused the Seal of our said Court to be hereunto affixed,
at Malbaie, on the -Ith day of August, in the year of our Lord, 1870, and in the 10th year
of our reign.
CHS. DUBEROEK,
p. s. c.
1 the undersigned Ernest Boivin, one of the sworn Bailiffs of the Superior Court for
the Province of Quebec, appointed for and acting as such in the District of Saguenay,
residing in the village of Nairn, m the pari.h of St. Etieane do la Malh-.ne, Why do
9150 certify under my oath of office that I served copies of this subpoena on Thomas Tremblay,
A-.
m
'V.
ss
Aiiilri' (.'art', Tliomas noiu'liunl uiul 'riiuiaiis Siiviml, s|)c'iilaii.; to n'luoiml)!.' [htsous of t!i. ir
lioUHiiholdft, ivuil on Tlioman Trjiuldiiy, Vitivl llifvcy and Hiirtht'loiui (iii^'iic, .iiwikiiig to tlu'iu
por-ioiiiilly this r,t\\ day of Au^'iHt, 1870, hotwi- mi U'M o'olo.^k in the for,>iiooii and six o'cloi-k
in the ovi'uin;,', and loavin^ with eauh of thmu a true and eortili"d copy tlicroof, ami sJKnving
them then and thoro this orif,'iual. I fiirthor uurtify that tlio distauco travollod to snrnnion
tho witnoHs is ahout ten loa^'ucs.
KIINKHT nolVlN,
Mai.maik, 5tli AuHUi't, 1870.
2160 ^^'■^'"f^ ■ $1.75
Travelling oxpenses D.OO
$10.75
89
HUBIMENA.
(,ANAii\. IN Till', si;iM:ia(»u coruT.
PHOVINCK OF (M'l''l«Ht:. .
llUlrii/ II)' ■Siirjiii'iiiiih ' ~~~
DOMINION CONTllOVEUTi;!) ELECTIONS ACT, M7I.
Vi. luuiA, li.v til.; (.nic. of (lo.l, of til.' Cnit.'.l Kint,'<lni.i ..ftlrcMt Hntain anil livlaml, guowi,
Dd'fiid.r of till' Faitli.
U170 To lulf. Tiviiililav, fariuof, of St. Uilarioii; Eli.' Lapoiuto. fanner. Malbaio ;
NarciHS.. llarv.y, |).uiii/llafvi.v, .(ohuny Oauthior. Ferdinan.l Trorablay, Octavo (limrd.
Louis (iaiitiiiiT, William Ilarvty and inlbort HoiU'liard.
W , conmian.l you that, layinj? asul. all business and cxcus. s, you and each of you
i... and apiM ar in p.n-s,u. before u.s. in our Circuit Court for the District of SuKUenay, m the
M.id district, on the 7tli day of AuKu.st uistaut, at ton o'clock m the forenoon of tlu, said day,
to testify uirihose thin-s which y.'.u know in a certain cause now pendhi- in the said Court,
licfore us, betwetui
0. HUASSARD kt al.,
Hilitiiiiiirs ;
V8.
Hon. 11. L. LANGEVIN,
I li't'i'iidtinl ;
n. thecontestatumof the Charlevoix Election, and this you or cither of you shall by no
means omit, under the penalty upon each of you of ten pounds currency.
In wituesH whereof, we have ca..H,Kl the Heal of our said Court to be hereunto affixed,
at Malbau., ou tlu- 7th day of August, ,u the year of our Lord, 1H7<;, and in the KHh year
of our roif,'n.
CHS. DriJEROER,
1>. s. C. U. rt.
2180
■2190
I th ■ uudersisned, Ernest Hoivh,, one of the sworn bailiffs of the Superu>r Court
, H. Province of Quebec, appointed far and actinj; a. such in the District of Saguenay.
' ■ ; i vl of Nairn m the Parish of St. Et.enne do la Malbaie. do hereby
:::S: ui e V !::! o,nce. una I s,...d . copy or.«bp.na „pou Narcis.e Harvey.
m I ey, Lou. Gauthier. Johnny GautUier, Ferdinand Treinblay, (idbert Bouchard.
I
I
90
2200
autl Julos Trcmblay, spuiikiug to thum porsoually, ami upon Williaui Ilarvuy, ami Octave
(liraril, to roaaoiniblc persons of thoir households on this 7th day of August 1870, between
foiu' and seven o'clock in the afternoon, and leaving with each of them, a true and certified
copy hereof and showing them then and there this original. 1 further certify that the
distance travelled by the witnesses is about ten miles.
ERNEST BOIVIN,
Malbaie, 7th August, 1876.
Berving '2.70
Travelling expenses 2.50
$5.20
il
f V/.-'.- ^, ■»:,'>*. f- "ir^'.f-^
■.r.;:^wr.i!-*>/-?-^5--
91
,SL'BP(ENA.
CANADA.
P WliNCE Of QUEBEC,
[Jlnlricl nf SiiiiiieiHiij:
IN THE SUPERIOR COURT.
221 C
DOMINION CONTUOVELITHD EL150TI0NS ACT 1H74.
Virr liiiA. liy tlie (Imcc of God, of Uie United Kiugdom of Great Britain and Ireland, Queen
Defender of the Faith.
To" Al)"l Maltais, Exe (lagnou, Riuilien Bouchard, farmers, Johnny Tremblay,
trader, all of St. Fidelo.
Wo command you that laying aside all business and excuses, you and each of you
be and appear in person before us, m our said Court in our Parish of St. Etienne de la
Malbaie, in the said district, on the third day of July next, at ton o'clock in the forenoon of
the said day, to testify all those things which you know in a certain cause now pending in
the said Court, before us, between
2220 '^- IJliASSARD KT AL.,
Petitionern ;
vs.
Hon. H. L. L^VNGEVIN,
Di'/emlant .
in the contestation of the Charlevoix election, and this you or either of you shall by no
means omit under the penalty upon each of you, often pounds currency.
In witiu>ss whoi'oof, wo have caus-d the Seal of our siud Court, to be hereunto allixed
at Mall aie, on the 3l)tli day of June, iu the year of our Lord 187(J, and in the fortieth year of
our reign.
CHS. DUBERGER,
2230
e. s. c. D. 9.
1, the uiulcrsigned, Ernest Boivin, one of tho sworn Bail ills of the Superior Court for
the Province of Quob.c. appomtod for and acting as such in tho District of Saguonay,
n-sidni" m the Village of Nairn ui the tho Parish of St. Etieiino de la Malbaie, do hereby
cortfv" under mv oath of oilicc that i served Ihi.. .ubpffua upon Abel Maltais
Vmilleu itouchard. Kxe Gagnon, and Johnny Tromblay, speaking to them personally on tins
ft 1
1 .;■■
J^!j
if
I
2240
92
first day of July 1876, between dovuu o'clock iii tUo momiii^' aiul six iu oveiiiug, iiinl
showing tiiem then and there this original and leaving with each of thorn, a true iuid
certified copy thereof.
ERNEST BOIVIN,
B. S. 0.
Malbaie, 1st July, 1870.
Servmg • 1.20
Travelling expenses 2.25
63.45
t
H
•J3
SURIHENA.
< ANAliA. ) IN THE SUl'KIUOU COURT.
I'llOVlNCE OF gUElJEC,
l>:,ttrirt nf Stit/iii'iini/. I
)250 DOMINION CONTROVEIMED ELECTIONS ACT, 1H74.
X'uToKiA, l)y till (ii'ii'jr of (ioil, 1)1 the Uaitcil Kingdom of Orcat Britain ami Irchiiul,
Queen, Defender of the Faith.
To (ircgoire .Jean, mason, .Iosei>li Boncliard, postmaster, Frederic Otis, Jeuu Harvey,
Krancjois Harvey, Tiionias Gagnon, Si^raplun Lajoie, Andre Carre, tlie last six farmers,
Kessy DesbieiiH, and I'Vlix I>ajoie, also farmers, all of Malbaie.
We command you, tliat laying aside all I)usiness and excuses you and uaeli of you be
and appear in persim before us in our said Court iu our Parish of St. Etieni.e de la ^lalbaio,
in tlic said district, m the 8rd day of .luly next, at ton o'clock in the forenoon of the same
(lay, to certify all those things winch you know in a certain cause now pending in the said
^'260 Court before us, between
0. ISUASSAIiD KT AL.,
/'ililioiii'r.i-
Hon. H. L LANGEVIN,
Defendant.
m the contestation of the Charlevoix election, and this you or either of you shall by no
means omit under the penalty upon each of you often pounds currency.
Ill witness whereof, we liave caused the Seal of o'n- said Court to be hereunto affixed
atMalbaie, on the :!()lli day of .June, in the year of .i" c Lord 1H70, and in the fortieth year
2270 of our reign.
CHS. DUBERGER,
p. s. c. D. a.
\. the undersigned, Ernest Boivin, one of the sworn Bailiil's of the Superior Court, for
the Province of Quebec, aiipointe.l for ;iiid acting as such in the District of Saguenay, resid-
ing ill the ViUag.,' of Nairn, in the Parish of St. Etiimue d.; la \Lilbaie. do hereby certify,
mider my oath of otHce, that I served this copy of SubpuJiia upon Gregoire Jean, Joseph
Doucliard. i'"rederic Olis, briap.
; to tliem p.rsoni
ills
hiu L
this
Andre C.i
[v;
Dc:,bi-
cour;-
1 1 Felix Lajoie
1 -.t day of July, 1H70, in tlic course of the day, and sliew
I
94
„,.- them tlu'ii an.l ihoro this ori-inal, auaioavin- with each of tlioni a tiur aud citifud c.-iiy
22S0 therudf. 1 further certify that the diHtaiice travoUed for th... wituesse. is about twelve miles.
ERNEST BOIVIN,
U. M. C.
Maliuie, 1st July, 187G.
Serving,' - 1.75
Travelling' expenses 8.G()
$5.B5
l'lt<>\'IN<'l'. !)!•' (,)'■:
sll'I'd'.NA.
IN Tin: srn laou corui'.
iH).M!N'io\ (()\ n;(tvr:i;Ti:i) Ki-i'A'TioNs act mti.
V, T, I ;\, li\ 111- (!nu-. ot (liHi.nl'thr I'liit.-il KliiKil'Hii ul' (Ir. at I'.ntiiiii luid lirliiiul. Qiuvii,
I) ■t'.'i..lri-iir the I'llilil.
ToTli. 'MOMHi.ir.l, I'.l/nirt'liiiiiilu rliiihl, Clmrlf.- liuiichuid, Tliouiii- Tiviiil)liiy, Niir.
,'is-<>' liouchunl, Jc'liuuy Dosbi.iis, Al.mliiua Troinl.liiy, Micli.l Jii-lMaii, nil liinncrH. .iikI
Mii-lirl Tr uiMuy. Iviullo, nil of St. Si.iir...i ; Thomas Bouuliarl. of tlu- >a\\w phitv, I'linufr.
VV'.' fomumiid yoii.timt luyiut,' a.i.U' iili busiiio... and .•XfUS(.-< y.m and .iuli of you !..•
iiml aiipwir ill lurs.Mi iRdbre lis in our said Oouct. in our said I'ansh <.f M. F.ti.unc do la
Mallmic', in the said District, on tiic drd day of .Inly ii,-Lt, at fii o'dock in tliu fonmoon of
2o(»0 the said day, to U'slify all those thing's which you luio>v in a octain rails,- now lU'iidiiiK
m ;lif said Court licforu us, botwit'ii
(). nUASHAKD KT Ai,.
I'i'liliiini'rx,
vs.
Hon. 11. L, LANdKVIN,
Dii'i'iiiUiiit.
in thr conh'station of tlu' Charlevoix election, and this you or either of y,n. .hail l.y no
melius omit, under the penalty upon each of you often pounds currency.
li, ,w ., .s wher 'of we have caused tii • sea! o/ oar said Court to 1, leivuMo allix.d, at
2;U0 Malhaie, on the .SIHli lay of .Inn,-, in the y.ar of our f..rd, ISTd, ai.d m th.- toriirth y.;u- of
our roigu.
( ;i>. i)ri'.i:jMi:i;.
1'. s. e. D. s.
Thomas Simard, Michel .Jesbeau are taxeil a-ain.t the petitioners.
1 th,' un.lersi-n.'d Hniest Hoivni, oiv^ of the sworn iiailiffs of the Supen-n' Curt for
the l'r,.vh,.-e of (iuelu'C. appoiuti^d for and .ictio- as such in the District of Sa^ilenay. r, -i,i-
ili,. in the Villa-' of Nairn, in the I'ari.li of M. I'M uue .U l.i .Mail.ai. . .i,. lu r. hy canity.
nM.v mv oath of onice, that I served this copy of Subp.eaa upon l':!/.car Chauiberhiud, sp,-ak-
|„„tohisu,Ie and upon Thomas Simard, Charles Bouchard, Johnuy Uesbiens, Abraham
in
u.
\ 'it
Iff
i
I
'.n\
2320 rrt'lilliliiy, Mifllfl .luil» mi. Mu'lc 1 I'mnliluv iiml I'lionm-* Hoiulmi'l, ^p.iikiili,' t(i tlicirl p r
M,;inll,v on thi' l^tday of July, IM7tl, ImIui'iii siwii nClook in tin' morniii!,' iiml tlvi- (.■.■lodi
III till' iviiiiii;.'. uiiil •.hoHiii^' tliciu tlicu ami tli.'r.' tliis on«imil. iiii.l Irnviii;,' witln'iicli iif tli.in
n trui' and ccitiii ' copy thcruof.
KIINKHT HOIVIN.
.Mai.maik. l.sl I'll' . iHTli.
HtTviiiK !t.o()
Ti'avi'lliUK exi)iui»eH 7.'><l
AU)M)
ir
2330
97
SUBPCENA.
CANADA. IN THE SUPERIOR COURT.
PROVINCE OF QUEBEC, V
Dhlrid of Saijueimy. )
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT 1871.
V,..o.a., by the Grace of Go.!, of tl.e United Icngdom of Great Br.a.u and Ireland, Queen,
Defender of the Faith.
we ».» - .» '.»". '■-- "*«":::- =^^;' ^trr:;:;:
i„. in the said Court before us, between
O. r.RASSAUD ET Ai...
Pttitwners.
Hon, H. L. LANGEVIN,
Defendant.
. . .„, -^,1 the seal of our said Court to be liereunto affixed,
reigu.
CHS. DUBERGER,
p. S. C. D. S.
TUe two w.tnes.es n: th,s .uhp.na .nake defa,dt this 7th July, 1870.
, • , Ernest Boivu., one of the sworn Bailiffs of the Superior Court fo.
I, the undersigned LineslBo.Mn ^^^^.^^ ^^ 8agucnay, rcsid-
the Province of Quebec, appointed for and acting ,is sucU u ^^ ^^^^^.^^_
tlie iro\me- I M,p Parish of SI. Elkriuic lie la -iM.iwo, <u) -ii-i- „
;x,:.rr.i:ra«":'»»»'-'-'' „„„...„.o,..,.,...aT,.„™.
il,4
J It
j I
a^^^Wf»1!¥;3»i«5s3F:^r
98
360 Trcml.lav, speaking to them personally about five o'clock in the afternoon, ami showing them
then ami there this original, and leaving with each of them a true and cert.hed c.py thereof.
ERNEST BOIVIN,
B. a. c.
if
m
Malbaie, 5th July, 1870.
Serving, - ''0 cts.
Travelling expenses, 2 85
$3 45
99
fSLBRENA.
CANADA. ) IN THE SUPERIOB COURT.
2370 I'ROVINCE OF QUEBEC.
Diitrivt of ^U'jiii'iuii/.
DOMINION CONTUOVEUTKD ELECTIONS ACT. lH7i.
Va-iouiA, l.y tlu. Uraco of Go,!, of the Unitca Kiiig.loui of (Jreat I'.ritain .md Ireland, Quocn.
Defender of the Faitb.
To Adolphe (iirard, Thomas Girard, Francois Turgcon. Bonifac Larouchc. Henri
Gu:ard. Joseph Laiouche. Johnuy Diifour, (leorsos Lan.ucho, Joseph Lnroucho, Tnnothc
Simard, Octave Simard (Nore). Xavle. Larouche. A.lolphe Martol, farmers ; Jean Bapt.ste
Bolducand Lament Pilote, carter, Thomas Larouch.o, ^vhechvrigllt, all of Baie St.laul;
Alfred Dufonr, of the same place, blacksmith.
'>380 We command you that, layii.f,' aside all business and excuses, you and each of you bo
and appear m person before us, in our said Court for the District of Saguenay on the 4th
day of July next, at ten o'clock in the forenoon of the said day, to testify all those things
which you know in a certain cause now pending in the said Court before us, between
0. BUASSAKD et al.,
Petitiunirs ;
vs.
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Defendant ;
ui the contestation of the Charlevoix election, and this you or either of you shall by no
2S90 meiuis omit, mider the penalty upon each of yon of ten pounds currency.
In witness whereof, we have caused the seal of our said Court to be hereunto affixed
Ht Malbaie, on the 80th day of June, in the year of onr Lord IBTC, and in the lOth y.^ar of
our reign.
CHS. DUBERGER,
p. S. C. D. S.
Hi)_ i j. i^i! | iw » ip p ! t!r « .-? !(rr*'-.
t
100
2400 iX'asonal)lc persoiw of tlu.'ir fiiiiiilics ; anil tlu^ wifo of tliu said A.lolplio Miiitil liaviiij,' told lue
that her husband woidd not go without rccoiviiig money, ami also the said Joseph Larouehe,
who made me ihe flame reply, this 8rd day of July, 1870.
J. Bte. THEMBLAY,
Baie St. Paul, 8rd July, 1876.
Serving, 2/(J, Ifi sorvices, £2
Travelling exp., 18 9
f2 18
(.J '.../-"■■, Illwt pi
../I
lUi
SL'lUnENA.
2410 CANADA. ) IN rilK SUl'KIUOR CO\lRT.
I'llOVINCE OF QUK15EC,
I'isti-lil of Siiiiii'-niir '
DOMINION CONTROVKUTKl) ELECTIONS ACT, lH7<i.
Vun'oK.A, by tlu. (Inic. c.f (lo.l, of tho Unitcl Kin-d-nu of (ln.it I!.-it,iin an.l hvhuul (^.eon,
DL't'ciuler of the Fiutli.
To Theodore Piuiuft, of St. Nicholas, EMiniie. Notary, and ImuiIv -facot, of Queboc.
Jeweller.
Wo command you tlmt.hiym- aside all ImsincM and omiso., you and ,-ach of you
1„. and appear in pcr.son before us, in our Superior Court, in .mr Parish of St. Et.enno de a
2420Malbaie,in our District aforesaid, on tlio 5th day of July instant, at ten o clock m the
forenoon of the said day. to testify all those things Nvhieh you know in a eertam cause now
pending in the said Courfhcfore us, between
0. BRASSAllD, ET AL,
Petit ioiiern .'
vs.
Hon. H. L. LANGEVTN,
Dij'('iiila\it :
.n the contestation of the Cliarlevoix election, and this you or either of yon shall by no means
omit, under the penalty upon each of you of ten pounds currency.
.,, on In witness whereof, we have caused the seal of our said Court to be hereunto affixed
'''' at Malbl on the Bid day of July, in the year of our T.rd 1B70, and in the 10th year of
or.' reign.
CHS. DUBERGER,
p. S. C. D. S.
8 days at §3 per day S9 00
Board «00
Travelling expenses 12 00
§27 00
^^l!l■
'M40 TANADA. I IN TIIK SUl'HUUJK COrUT.
I'UUVINCE 01' gl'ElJKC, ■
DOMINION CONTUOVKUTKI) KLKCI'lON'S M'W 1h7I
Vmiouia. hytli,. (Jm' „l''lo.l,onh. Uuit.aKi.iK'V>mof(iiv;U nhtiim mi.I IivlmM. (/lum
DiI'.'ikIcI' of ihi' Fiiilli.
To JoHopl, 15oucl,anl, Ovi.lu Simarcl, Mootor Ilm.t, Aauu^t.. Si.uanl, An.ua. Ro.uu.d.
.1 1! Il..n;u..l, Tlumms Laiv.u.h., M.^wa- Hoaolmnl, T. Foitia, K-l."'-^'- notary ; Luc
Sinu.nl, lUUhu't Tivmblav, Kkuiraui Dufour. W. T.'.ul.lay, Kpiplm... CuMui.tt.., Zoplnri..
Guil.nott... I'Mcimut 'rnnil.luy, Oan.iU.' Uouuliar.l. C. 1$. Sinmnl, Fpu.- Su-mu.I.
<,.r,n \V>. .■n,nnnu„l vr.u, that layiui.' a^iJ.. nil Imsmos.- aiul rx.MH.. you an,! -ad. ol s u
1„. u. 1 apiMU- in ,u,-'u,. h.fo.v ..s iu our Supauo.- (.'oui't for Lower Ca.mda. ... oar par.. .
of St Hli ...... a . la N[ ai.aio, .u tl.. .a.d lUstrict, ou tl.o :i.i I diy of S.pt...ul..r. at to., o clock
m the forouoou of ll... .amc day, to testify all tl.ono tUin«. which you 1...onv ... a corta...
ca.lHC now pouaiug ii. our said Court hM'on. u-;, bawciui
(). nilASSAUl) M »...,
I'llilialifrs ;
VS.
Hon. ill. LANUKVIN,
Ihl'niihttil.
.,,.n>u the co,.tostatio.. of the Charlovo.x olcct.o... a.Kl U..s you or cUk. of vou .hall hy ,.o
-^^^^ ,„ea..s o,nit, u-.dcr th.^ penalty upo.. oach of you of one hu,.,lrc,l pounds cna-oncy.
(JHS. UU UElKiKU.
V. «. I'l
I
103
8Um'(KNA.
<'.\\Ai»A. I IN Till'. sri'Kiiioit coniT.
I'UOVINCK (iV 'S'RRFiC, '
IJOMINION CONTnoVKUTKI) KI.ECTIONS ACP, 1H7».
•J 1.0
No. n.
AfALnAiK, 6th NovGiubcr, 1870.
I'jiKsKNi,— lliiN. A. H. ItiirriiiKii, .1. S. (\
OSKK HUASSAKl), kt ai,.,
/'illlliinirn ,
VB.
H(.v. II. L. LANOEVIN,
Ihfeiiiliiiit.
'rill' t'oiirt liaviiit; hcin\\ tlio piirtn's by tlu'ir Advociiten upnn tlio ni'^rits of tlic
petition coiiiplaiiiiii;,' of tlie illc(,'iility of tlio oloction of tlio lion Mr. Ilcotor Louis Lan<,'t'vin,
Ut'fcndaut in fiiis cause, as n mombor of the IIousu of Commons of Canada for tlio elootoral
District of Chiirlcvoix, liavinj,' cxauiini-'d tln' procii'dings on rcoord, liuvin;,' buard and road
2480 Ibc cvidiMico and luatiircly di'libcratud,
lU'nibring judgment in tlio first plaeo on the object ions to tlio ovidoiico reserved for
hoarilig on tlie iiieritf, sots aside those which were made by the I'etitioners to (fiiestiolis by
the Defendant in tlie evidence of tlu^ lly, Mr. Ciin] ;\Iars, of Vineeslas Ti'emblay, and of
•iolin havanl, and al.so those iuadi> by the Defendant to tiio questions of the Petitioners
tending to prove tlio sermons of tii,' llev. Messi-s. Sii-ois, Fiifard, Langlais, lioy and
Trcmiilaw an^l lo ii ipiestioii in riM,,.,.\.iuiiniili(jn by th. i'.litioiier.. Hi the ovidoiice of Hon.
Mr. Prieo; sets aside alsd the tirst oiiji.'ction made iiy tin' Defendant to a question imtdo in
cross-examination by the I'etitioiiors in the evidence of llev. Mr. ('!ii ; .Mars. Imt maintains
tho second and thitil objections of the Difendant in the same evidence, as well as those made
2490 I'y '"'" '" ''"^' evidence of Xavier Tremblay, Tli lesphoro Fortiii and Israel Tarto.
And tho Court proceeding to render jiidgiiuMit upon the said iiotition on tho merits,
Whereas tho Petitioners have not proved tho allegations of their petition and have'
not establisli"d tho groan Is of nullity which thoy assort against tho election of tho
DofV'iidant, declares that the said Dofondant was duly elected a member of tho House of
Commons of Canada for the Electoral District of Charleviix, and sets aside the said petition
with costs against the Petitioners, except tho costs of .summoning and the taxed costs of the
\yitn€-ss.?s of tli':- D-fend:Uit hereinafter named, vvho will remain at hiri charge, that i.-i to say :
Maximo Dufour, Cleophas CJto, Fram^ois Xavier Do.sgagnor, Hubert Tremblay, Ouesimo
!' M
104
I'iloto, Norbert Girurcl, niiviil Gilbert, Antoiue Giuithior, Outavu IniiR-hiinl, N'orboia
2500 Coiiloiubo, Jciui Maillioux, Fi-uiicois Savard, Louis Trciiiblay, Jost'iili lioiichiird, (ol liaio hit.
Paul) Geoi-go Girard, Omcr Boucliard, Uvidc Simaid, Frederic Gute, Mederie IJouchard,
Ananias Ilcnaud, J. Bto. Renaud, F.pipliaiio Guiliaot, Josojili Guay. Josepli Duchesne,
Samuel Boivin, Tliouias Cute, Andre l^oucliavd, Louis Gautliicr, i'ieiTO Narcisse, Bois, and
Arseuo Siiuard.
[true copy. J
ClIS. DUBERGER,
1'. S. C, I), s.
i
105
CAMAIA
i'Kovi.cEOFWKc,| IN THE SUPERIOR COURT.
2510 District of Siifjiiciiivj. )
DOMINION C0NTl10V£RTP]D ELECTIONS ACT, 1874,
ClIAELKYOlX" El.KCTION.
No. 11.
(). BllASSAKU KT AL.
Pililioners ,■
ANT)
Hon. U. L. LANGKVIN,
Di'fiinlaiit.
TIk; Hon, Hector Louis Lau,i,'eviii, Del'oiuliiiit in this ciiusp, boiiig duly sworn,
dujiosoth iukI siiitli : —
2520 Tluit he has wriHi'U iill tho depositions of tlio witnesses in tins cause lis they wore
.spolion ; that anion,L; others he wrote that of /jO]ihirin (ruilmot, of Baio St. Paul, on the
tjth September instant, which deposition is hereto aKaclied ; that to the question put to the
said Z. Gnilmet in cross-examination Uiat is to say: — "Why did you want to see what
passed in the two apartments more on that evenin.u: than on another?" tlie witness
answered it was in order to know the news of tlie I'leelion in the- two apartments; and that
the witness did not add to that rojjly tlie followini,' words: — "There were not people in
both apartments on tliat evening" ; tliat there is a clerical ernu' in the deposition of the
.said Z. (iuilmet in his reply to the said (pie>tion as written by the Clerk, and it was only
to-day that he became aware of that error, when the Attorney for the Petitioners read that
2530 reply in tJourt and stated that he had himself referred to that depo.-^ition to ascertain
wiiether that w as really the reply of tlie witness, ami liatli siym'd.
HECTOll L. LANGEVIN.
Stiiini b'l'orr iiif nl MiiHaii' , this lUIi Scrtniilicr, 1870.
CHS. DUBEKGER,
p. S. C, I), s.
75. Zephirin (iuilmct, jouicr, Baio St. Paul.
f reside,
1 was present at the Cure's sermons during the election.
mo
The Pctitidiiors iiiliuit iis for tli.' dtlicis.
2540 ^ luinwAlfr"! Dufo'ir, (pf Hai" St. Pan!, :i wi'n-.'ss o^camiuiKl in this cause. Alfred
Dnfour lias but little instnu'tion. lie iiaii (inlnmry blat'i;siiiith. I mot him soveral times
ilii''iii,^' till' cli'i't'iin. lie u.sc'il to say at mie time li • was for one ot the candidates, ana at
iiiiotticr time for thr otlier; it was dillicnlt to say wliidi lie wan for. I saw him two or
throj times ut Theophile Simard's with the friends of the Di'l'eiidant during' the election. I
remember the evenini,' when the Defendant spoke in the public hall at i'aio St. Paul. I
think a was the i.ith .htiuiary. The Defendant went on that evening,' to the public hall
about seven or half past seven. The public hall is about two arponts from Theophilo
Siinavd's house, where tli.' D>'fcndant rc:.ided. liefore the uu-etin^' I wont to Tln'ophde
Simard's, between half past live and oix u'ckick, and i remained there until the departure
2550 of the Dcfemlaut for the meeting. All the time I so remained at Theoplule Simard's. on
that evening, I did not see Alfred Dufour there. I left Theophilo Simard's to !,'o to the
meeliny; at the same tiuu- as the Defendant. Thomas Larouche and many rthers were with
me. When 1 went out of Theoplule Simard's Irmse at the same time with the Defendant,
1 did not see Alfred Dufour. I aecmnpanied the Dcfoiulaut as far as the public hall. 1
walked before him to show him the way. f)r a little snow hatl fallen. The Defeiulant left to
"o to the meetiui,' about seven or halt past sevi'ii.
Ckoss-Examinkd.
There were two apartments at Simard's in wliieh there were people. One of these
apartment., was immedial-ly at tin' eutranee, and the other, whieh wa-< the sitti-iK-roora
2560 was beside it, and behind the sitting-room was a small bedroom. I rt^maiued all the time
in the door between the entrance hall and the sitting-room. There may have been in the
two apartments between twenty and twenty-H\v prvs.aH. I cannot name all tho-e who
were th"re. I remember Thomas ],aroueb.'. W.- bid gatlu'red for the meetiu,; that
evenmg, and we .spoke ab.mt the election whiL waiting 1 did not tind lli.^ tine' long,
becau:,^ we were occupied with the election, and 1 was in the habit of ->iiig tie r.^ leMny
every evening, and 1 mt-re.ted myself hi the election. The D.-fendant went out iielbre me.
We drew upleluiid the outside door to l-t Mr. l.angevn. pass out. We followed him, and
when we had gone out he stopp ■ 1 au,l we pas.. 1 before iinn. I re)n .in • 1 i^i (b ■ deorway,
as it were too ke.p the door, in urd.r t . s ■ ■ into l.oth apa. tnu.nt.. I remained there to see
9r7() .,11 the peopb' at once and to hear what every on. said. 1 did not always station myselt at
tlied,.or oil the other evenings. I stationed myself in the doorway because it suited. I
said that just now.
C^»r.s//o».— Why did it -nit that evening rather than the other evenhigB 9
,l,isim:-—lt is because J. wished to station myself there.
QmhI Inn. -\yh\ did you wish to station yourself there that evening '?
It was to see what passe<l in both apartments.
Whv did ynu want to see what passed in the two apartments more on that
Aii^ii'cr.-
evening than ou another '?
V-
I
107
■, ..-u». -. - - - :Tr":— ::- ' "
SUPERIOR COURT.
No. 11.
BRASSARD et m..,
Petilii'ifi'^'-
vs.
Ho,, u. L. LANGEVIN,
Defendant.
MoUon 0. U. D— nt : T.at ^..^ ---,—; r t^!. lX^^^\
2590 and the document thereto ^tta^^-^;^ '^^^^ ^,^.^„,
Z . Guilmet be again cKammed to rtctity
Malbme, 14th September, 187G.
Motion rejected 14th September. 1870
H. U. PELLETIER,
Allonicij
„f Defendaitl.
^•annrri-r-TTi
1
II
T IT D G M K N T
-(.II'.
iiis HONOR .tt:dge ucn'TiiiKii.
riiK
CONTESTAIION OF THE ELECTION
— oK
I'ONOUIIAIJLK IIECTOIJ LAXGEVIX.
Afemhi:r ol' tht lloun* of Commonii /'(>;• Charlevoif.
OSKfi MIIASSAUI), i;i ai.
l'i;rnii)\i-:ii«.
111 .(L'IKiMKNT.
Tlio Ciiso which I am nmv calleil U])()n to iJocide is |)erhii|)s Iho nm-it iinimrtaiil
wliieli hiX'* ovor I'coti siibmittoil to a ( aiiaiiiu" tribunnl. It interohi- not only tlie I'etl-
tioiiers ami tln) I»olciiiliiiit, not only ^ two {^roat political purtioM \si,icli aro oppOMMl to
cat'li other, not only the oifctors at' i clcr^'y of the County of ("harlfvoix, hut also the
whole |io|iiilaliou of thin j^roat l^l■itl^' o'olony, and ospecially tuo CliuiTh ot'Canailu.
The li'inal qiieMiion is inixcd with a roli^ious qiiest'on hrouifht up for tlio first time
in ihi- .iiiiiij, and the decision whitdi I shall j^ivo will bo tji't'atly sjHiken of over the
eoii,,,, ,, an<l will have serious eonseiiuencos. I must aeknow!ed;,'o that I ;,m jirotoiiiidly
iini)rusr<ed with llie leeliny of the foriiblo rosjionsibiliiy wliieh now weij^hs on mo. When
• )() I co'i-i'ler the many and grave (juestions whid) eomo betiiro tnis Court, I eannot, sulli-
cicuiiy express the rei,'rot vhieh I fool at haviii;^- the wliolo task of deeidiii^' upon them.
'I'iic law wiiieh jilaeed .such a liurden upon the shoulders of a sini^'le judge was cr-uel to me,
ami, I would add, was al.s" inqtrudent. — if my judgiii lit was to he tinal.
.Sueh a ease was oi' a nature to exeite jmblie opinion, and the press did not fail to
take it u]). Several papers have jewel ugued and deeiditl it, without deliberation
— (•• sans diliborer") — as they will leview, di.^'Uss and perhajis reverse my judgment
again, and this iiiso without deliberation (■' sans diliberer"). — The labor of these papers.
1 must say, have thrown but (i'tl- light on the case, and 1 owe thorn no thanks.
!{iit ! must tiiaiik Use. (^s'.i.iae! fjf'ixJth parties for wiiat they have done. If, on the
;;() one hand they have by their ability confused questions which I considered clear, on the
""l<TllM.„l ll„.y,i;TC:,lh-lhriliU.ti.,i my (M-k l,v :;ivi„.- ,
iir,miiridil.s Mini oftlio t.vi(k.|ice.
lie pi'ililf,! iinds of (licir |..;,IT),'.I
,„,,,. ,7,'°, ''"';""","''"■ '' -'I"'".-..'! ,i»i c. ,- ,|,i„i ■ i,i. „i..„i,,„ „„.i
., zr ;';„:• ::;\ri;;-:::;n;,,-r::::;;, s^r;;;:;r;3
(.<w///w;«) jire seventcoM in n urn I.e.-. Tmivc 'iiv ■,..■■,;., i ,i h r , ' •
Sir':;;:;::;::-:;::;:- '»---:'■""»:■ :;rLi:::::^;::.s
I'r
■<lial
'I'': ':; :;;;::::r''T '!'" f-v'''''''--- -■ ''-
I.
CllAROES A(iAI.V^r TIIK DeKENDANT PEIlSu.VAr.LV.
1. 7%. h.,nmpl,l,:ne.x of Ih,: a,co„n(. f.mn.hed llw. IMnrnimj Ofu-e,
pii
loni
1 ()'.M:i!lcy iV; II;inlc;islU. p p. 20, :J2, ;!;i.
Tl.e.-« p.ofi>.lent.s (>/•/,,/;•,„/,■,;,■,■) l,avo l^-on followci
m our counlry, ;in<l on dio .'inl
"" ;::;^S;^.r::;:; :;;';:;':;:;-™— ' ■■•" ■■»-« •" -«. -.:«:':;
II' L. <'. .(iirisi, [) |). isr)iiii.l ;i:ji>.
ri.o |,riii..i|,al i.tiii ii, ,|,.|,„|, in ||,i, CI,,,,,,!.!,. „,.,, „,,, ,, . 5 ,
.Mr, iv>*„„„i„,, .v,fc,.,i„„ ,„,.,„.■■ ,„ ,., t„.,„,,: „, ,,.,;,;,;';■' - •■"• i ' ••>■
Now lot us liilce up the (liliwui alliiir. In il
the Jiftuniiiij,' Oirifor, l.y ijayinntnl Pivlbiit;:
II
live luiiiiiii'd uiKl twcnty-ono dollars li
o ac'coiiiii i-eiiilcrod In Marcli. ]■
ioiloiii's eloclioii a;j;eiit) ii,.|ii> ar(
.) I.)
lliuir fxiieiisos
Th
is ilcni is a Mnciv
•nioiicy |iaiil l.y tin- ai^fiit lo oratr
Olio, Mil (
'll'S oi .loilllill t'.,]
lolnils hoiii,!,' f;-ivuii ; imp lias any ivasdiialil*
y. Anolhor ilcni is H. S. (iihuau, hoard and
cxiilanalion ot this iiein hcen made lo tlds t\:
and expenses of orators, $:u;- :;(). It is npnn' this iton, that (ho -reatest'stu'ss
laid liy the jietioners. No explanat
.S(l
is an liotel-Ueeper, tVii'nd oi'jodoin's jiarlv. His
the election. Any hody calling hiitiselt' a tVi—' ■
ion ot U was !nrni>hed lo I he IJelur
house was lull oflViends olModoiiKh
iiini;- Otlirer. (lilieau
inng
leen Iree lo eal and drink, co
end ot .lodoiu's, mid an orator, seems lo hnv(
mo and go, or sle.'p at (iiheaii's house wilhoiil cliari'V, ,S<i
limes (.i beau's Jiouse eould not hold all presenlin- them.M.lves, He was paid Ihe S;j(J2 oO
aiiuarv, 1S75, hv
reloiiiaine, after a hill rendered
the d
exiejit one. from Deeemher 12tli to DeeemI
made out against Jodoiii, statin" all
dohited on eaeh day, I e>e dehts var\
ler oOih. ISTl,
inelii>ive, a sum Ik
iOlii Deeemher. Jodoin
iiig from SIO 00 to j<43 00. The pull
mi:
Th.
saw this hill, :ind had it
da
y was the
lietilioners have sought
po.is
heh
ire riefolilaine paid il.
witness. lie swears that no detail has he
111 vam tor parlieulars of it. (;il,eau has heeii examined as a
detailed aeeount lo I'reli.ntaiiie. hiii •eaii't rememher aiiv .let
preserved of the hill for S^:U\2 .';o. Ho
!'i/,/nlil were eharged h>r: ' eaii't say ■ how much a dav he ehar.'ei f
lll> ; jiaiision, liyuffn and foil/in
;i() did not keep ueeounl of it in his hi
or eaeh lu'ator
h
;avs,
'hi
He made up
Hi
fi
om memorv.
Msigiied the ilem.s in a pHit livM which prohalily is at iii.s 1
I'r coiinled Ihe drinks that the orali
AllerwaniN
•u>e.' 'He
asked for detai
dm ((iiheaii) lo give them
Il was I'lefonu.ino who told him tli
frieiiils had with them.' .M. Prcliuiiaine iiev.
Il:
e orators would come, and he tolil
ey would ask. There is an adjouriimeni during (liheau'.s
e.xaniination and afier il he hrought his /aT«< and showed il t
out of il that would have
himself as soon as il
shewn the account in iiuesiii
H.
o the Court, with tl
II
iceouiil ivas rendered. On ihe dav of tl
le leaves
t> says lliey were lorn out bv
made, yet S4;j 00 aie charged liir the dav, and
lo this i)av
le volalioii no
noex|ilaiialioii of the cliari,'e
^jieeelies wei'o
I (10 his oi'dinarv price
no reasonalile explanali'in has heen maile. (ill
tl
es Kuinint .w ••ontrien
H
iieeii niady
can says he chargeii more than
e 'can t >a\- how miic
I 'irint
le accouni. l.iii it doe.s come out in the coiii'so of I
ips d'appctil. hennes^cy, and hecr' are.
IS conijirise
in
us evidence that '( hamjiagne, ahsinthe,
The agent, liayinond I'refontaino (a lawj-cr)
account of what he paid the oialeiirs for tlr
e.'camineil as a witness sav!
le Keiu an
avoir delruit :
voyages -dans iin pclil cahicr qiiy je crois
,|e n ai pas jnge a propos de donner ec eomjitc en delail a I'ollicicr rapporleii
He would not " take ihe trouhle lo de'ail it though he had tl
le ilelails in
Such were the facts. T
remaiiKHJ holiiro the ("oiirt
wo items of the accouni, one of i'.VlX and II
e other of gi:i02,
unexplained
.'xplainaii
id surrounded with all tlio
appearances of fraud; iieilher Ihe agent nor the holelkeepcr could explain 11
|() manner.
W.
shall see that the |iresent case is very oilVerenl. The • efendaiil's
lem in anv
.Mr. T.'irle, produced in Court a detailed account of the amount jiaid to Simard. and
.swore that he jiaid iloiily alter liuving himself made the detailsof tl
iirent,
lio
and after having ascertained il
le account with .Simard,
s acciiracv ami
■aliiv.
Si in 11 rd kee
This evidence is as follows: '■ Tlieoiihilo Simard's account is S.'iOS.nO. Tlieopiiilo
ps a huarding huu.sc at Hay St. i'-.mi, hut does not sell iiipior. I arrived there <
Deconiher .'ilsl and we did not leave there uiitilJanuary iTjth. He did not furnish a writtet
I, I
"Wn
<lc(aik'(l .■iciMuiil. lull I
llilli ln'CII illilu li
• •XMiiiiiicI all ihr .lolMiN di' |,i, ,.|Mim 1
III! I'ot'dl'
> KlKIW invsoll tln>.-L (JcM
I' ll'l\ inn- II.
I)t'~l.ll-
?k'i'l
•'!l .S
on, MiKl till' oxpi'tiscs wore mail,, m,,!
Ills a- 1 I'fiuuiiir.i iJHTt' (luriii:;' all il
If lllllC (ll li
imai'ds ;iir(iuiiloiii\ alU'i-liaviii- as,-,.rlaiiu,'.| I hat
cr iii\ own o\i
of III
ek'clldii (,)■ the I'l'li'injah
ilii^-s III all. Siiuai-.l's I
It II was (.■iiiTcct
I \va> al)M,'iit a( dilU ivM
■•'ii'l I'y "iv OI-.I.M-. I |,ai,l
Ic-'il, :iii(ll.>i- 111,. |Mir|M,-.i's
inu's, alioiil I 111
•Ml-. L
injicviii s |iariy ami m i
ioii>u wa> ihiriH- all (1„. ,.lorl,,ral caini.ai-i, ilu- |,|ac,. „r
{/I'lltcs /<o liiitlhili;
llio iiuws olilic eluctioii hum ilitloi-uiit iiaris (ii'tj
'"'• <'i'iilral CMiiiiiiiKcc. wliclr all lln' pi
«'i' or iDiir
MlfC'liliy; i,f
■/iihiit ,:\/'i'i,ji,i',s) ; \<y jilaiis (
W.llhVIIVItS
111 lln' )ilaii> woiv arraim-cl
) I iiiraii I.. >a\' thai all
K- coiiiUrv wnv lii-oii;;lil |.
) MIC lluTl
It was I here lliai I he 1
Willi llicii- cariurs an.l lioiht's. T
ir,i;vr iKiiiioii ol' iho l>olci]ihiiii'> -po:il>
iiin;,', aiKJ sprfclie- tiiaili- DiiriiiM- ,|
loiv were |)iil,l|r iiuM'liii^s |k.|.| xUk^^. j,|||,,„|
ITS W( 111 and jiiii I!
aiiil lii'diiMhi II,,, ll
If <ia_y IVionds ami mliors worl
];i(i
ii; iifws. and i-cccived t
iiiii; ill iiiir iiitcri'si, (.'aino
di'iMl tills lioiisc was I
wi'if ll,u> occaijiii'd diiriiii; llu- tdcclion
iv.|iiciilO(l iiii;lil ami dav diiiiii'' ll
K'lf ordiT.s, or cucfived new.- (if l
ic clortioii. Ill-
ll' i'l(Mlii)ii. I'lve i-d.iiiis di 111
I' IIOIISO
as iiia\- Ik
Jiaid .•-Milliard at (,)iudK.c tlir>iiiii of j?;;!).), 'I'ln^, ,«<,-, ,-,.)
seen liy iiiv nuic'li
loiv. .Siiiiard i>
I'lV paid to liiiii pivvioiisly
iTvaiil. II
uio arc I
10 detaiN ; — .Sji
in illiloralc man and has ihi clork i
loi' ivjiicaii (|
of his arconiit. I
nani askod nio aficr
liir, • liiit let us M'o.' I 1 1
iv|ilii'd, 11 IS piissihlc iliai ilii-
fliTlion, Siriil. as 1
lati
navu rr,it| all Ihc ilelails |,
ion sal .-It a lahU.. and
may iidl ln' ido inmdi, or sdinotiiii
ll' aiiiuiiiit
l.iC slllll-
llls, a.S 1- shdWII hy CNlllhJt 1 I
we nia.le pi-eily m leli ihe I
ol Iho l>ereiidaiil, now prodiier I. I cann d
leinaiid ol S(,")i)
' .Mmard. I.iil j ilid tl
diiDwiii:^; cak'ii-
■ woai- to
Was iidi e.vlidrlijtaiii
lis to assure myself wlietl
ifi' .'^iiii:i
i-K) Si; a day f.
Iiall dT ihai
r rent, uhiidi iiiif;-iii ho dvori
(In relerrili- lo exliihil 11 1 see oulv ||
.f:
inidiiMi, as ho I'oiliieod llie
lar-vl ; hiii wo see ilial Mi-. T
,V llie Hem of
Hilary, 1 remomherod woll all ihal I
aeeiiiiiii aiiniii .<>
t had
irioiiiil. and 1 paid il dniv after hoi
.'iiid for the wanl'^ .•ii.(|
ndsdCihe I'oleiiilaiil's elorl
ii'le paid duly (1,0
|iaid .Simard dii L'Tlli
passed, and I eoiiM odiilr,,! iho details of the
is aeeduni, or claim, was le^.a! and
n.n' oimviiiood that ll
Dory, ( aron, li'ohiiaille, \all(v, MaoKav. Cli
ion. Me-si's. lioiileail, I'elk'lier, L
iVoiii l^>llelleo, aro not
ohctidii. I
elecidrs at Charlovi
iljol, .Idseph l(diile;iii, A. (,',,10, laiion.l, are all
iix, ami came lo the (
caiiiiol sa\- wl
sidered the sum of S.'Ul.") ."ill
Iho expi'iisos he had inciirrod. In ll
icthor Mr. f.mdnd was an oleddr of ( '|
oilnly lor l!ie i )eleiid,-mt'
lar.evdix- or noi.
modoralo, oi
1 account ol the Iroiihio ;j.ivoii to AI
1'. ■■>iin:ud, am
i:,(| To my l^llowled^■o. lliei
I" aceoiiiii thero is no fo.-ini 11
1- rc-idoiils oi ll
were hut ihi
Ihe speakers of iko Dufeml,
their I
iree or lour poi'sdiis of jj
ml. and we invjiriahU- wariio 1 I
le coiinis ,
iieals. ami lliey .lid pay for then
I. ."Milliard 1
•Simard di'i not as'.- mo to pay lor them. I
;ivo no meals iior liipior lo tho oiedors. an I | know 'hal
old me so; 1 ilj(
ive onlors Id Simard I
10 coii.iiy wild todk meals with
liem tiial they should ])av lor
n It pay lor iiiem.
Simards
accdiini was for i|
wore lawful am! in
lii.uh, for Simard uenorall
speakers look a meal, and ihor
coniini; and iroiii".''
10 necessary rei|i!iivinjiils of tlu. o|o
o iii,-iKo no ex]ieii^e, lo
no such exjionso was iiiciirro I.
«i faith. I ooiisid
Tl
er I W.I .filiars a .lay lor 1
lose oxpenso-
loam was n.it t.
,V .n'ave us lour iiiea!
lis a .lav. .\iior 1 1
le meetiiif^s al ni;.dil, tho
e was liyhl liurMin- nearly all ni-ht. ll was a oonlinual
10(1
ISetweoii tho roeiiai of these liiel.s ami o( tl
scver-!l -.irikm- p,-,ii,ts of ililfcrencc that all can see. The I
the IJefen.lanI is therof.irc not proved.
lose whioh oeciiiol .al (lihoau's there arc
ii'st f^'r.Miml of complaint aeainst
^/. fiitiiiii./iilioK ()/ .Utijiir /Jiil'mn
SIl'D.llll
Aliivil Hiilniir rosiik'Siit liaio St. I'liiil. JI
tlio 1
iiiiimi. Tho I'olitioi
is Miijorof MilitiM, lorwliidi I
<l^^sll| Ills posilioii iflii'iliil not vote Cor h
lOl•sn^sel•t timt lie was tluvatsiKMl l.y il,o [k-i\'u>\
10 nvcivcs
I'laiii Willi
Tl
lis accusation is hascl on only one tosiimony, that of Dull
swears i.ositivoly in I, is cvi.lcnc... tliat tlio faci lolalo.l l.v J),ii;
Dclei
roiiiisel t.r III,' IVlili
>iir is liilse. Tl
17(1
oricis t-ays thai tlio IVfcmlant diij not t'
iilant
10 loai'iiotl
I (I ovHionco, ami lo prove this citeil the C
ornially contrailict Diiti.ni
never hail anv
Bui;
Hut t
L'i'salioii with MMJor hiilour. 1
'witi^' seiiloiico of the i tolonilant'
uiowiiii' thai
lis IS not ■■all ■' which Ihi' relen.lant h
Is speakiiiiT to .Miijoj.
part of his oviJoiico ho wishoil not oiil
is atlirnKii umlor oath
At th
to li
Hill. I'lil to go further anil say thut ho hail
y lo ilony iho wonis which Oufom
as Major I'lijour
was unknown to hint ihirinir the
lovor sjioUcri lo Major Diilour. II
hail attrihutcii
owover
eleelioii ami as iu; iiiiLclil have spoki'ii to
Miwiihoul knowin- him, he iloclareil that ho ha-l no eonvcrs«lion with Major Dul
knowini;- him lo he M
Dut
our,
Tliero may have hocii a ilouhl in tho mind of the l>cl
whether lie lia<
emlanl on the
lf;() iKUe iniporlancc.
I spoken to Dufoiiror not iluriiiiC llio oleclion ; hut tl
iiueslion as to
laer in realilv is of
'1 he real iiuolion is to know if tluulefemianl
ipoko lo Dufotir ill the manner reporteiJ.
Xow the Defemhini aiiswered on this point without any amhiguilv
lever spoke to Major DiUoiir ami I lieclare that tho eonversaliou which l"
ly sayuiu
1
wilh me IS a falirication'
(est fausso).
10 asserted he had
Tl
10 only evidence' on wliieii is founded tho complaint which 1
thoroforo formally contradicted hy the Defbiidaiit. It is,
Zepheriii (iiiilleinotte (witness lor the Defendant) as to tlioeirc
hiiiir which he relates.
am examining is
moreover, contrailicted hv
umstances of jdaco, day, mid
'.III
The only point to decide tl
loscrving of siillieioiit coiiti leiico t
ion u whether J)ufoui's evideneo thus contradicted
■ 8
aiimil llic elect
o wai 'ant me in roiidoring a ju Igmeiil which would
eciion ainl
lisi|ij;ilily the J >cleiK'uiit.
As I ^.■|id ill li
le coMlislalion of tlie election of Montinai
u/tus /,.f,'/s, tcs/is iiii/iits is no mo
witness is now siilli
lori^lics of iriitli, and should prmliice ceiiainly in the i
the ancient maxim,
iillglo
more received in our law, but it is prt cisely Ii0caii>e a i
cient that it is rei(uisile Ihal his e\ ideiice -honld possess iho char;
d. This is esjiecially the oi
t demanded hy the I'elitioner.-
wlicn Midi a serious senleiice i-, to he prononm e.l as tha
r.el us then examine Diiloiir's evidence and see what tiiitli it d
T
he witness rehites thai during Ihe last election from the lirst lo the last (lav I
IIS
conviehons were alway- favourable to .Mr. T.-emhlav ; that
It a date that i
le could not
inn indicate his father lold him that he would lo>e his .Miualioii -if he showed hiinsell more
for .Mr. Tremblay ihaii for the Defeinlaiil ;" that lie then weiii toTlioophile Simard's house
where he met the Defendant and said lo h
it seems that it 1 c
uitinue to vork for Mi
Tremblay I will lose my jilace'' : that tho Defendanl after enquiring his name answered,
" if you continue you will certainly lose it,"
HMviinasM a.|,ls, in annil,..,. ,,.,,1 ,.r l,is .,vi.K.,uv. t|,M
Del
rolui'ii to tliodufoiHlNni
"'Inrit took j.laco towards ih,. o.M ,,r i|„. ol
liiis iriii'i'vifw with lli
'to jrot riows, and to lind
nil lio was iViijIiioiu'd l)v (I
'Mimittcoalior ihal ; tlial lio had yoiio ll
filioii. lio tliirdvs thai he did
Hot
tl
more in the idocii
how things woio McJiiir „„ „n m,. j
out
'w words of the d.'londanl
Koiio llioroHovoral times lioCor,
aiii'i'viii's Mi(U'
lam. and tlial he did not inturl
Ol'd iiii\-
l.oi us n..io tirsi, iho iinlila-)ih..od o( i|
knowlcd^ro, altl
of Miliiia was Mr. V
C
lon^'h not an odiical
MS siory. Diiii.iir i.s inloll
'ornicd jiart of ihu (
>"l man. Ho know, as !,« says hinisolt, that th
I'osiiiondupendclon him; timl Iho Honorahlo .Mr. \
Tl
ion Ik.w could ho ibar that .Mr. I
:iil: that h
ovornnionl sii|,|,orlod hy .Mr Tronihlav and
ixoni ar'(| hasxiMio
10 .Mini.sior
lio I'oar iiolhi
ani;oviii would mal
>"-i "» Iho pari of .Mr. Tromhiav whon it
liivorahlo lo thf liolondanl. and that
I e ro^'iilarly al ton led I
ipposod hy .Mr. Lan.,'oviii.
■0 his [ilai'o, and how could
i^ |iroV(.,| ihat ho showed hiiiisell
:o lini) lo.'
IIS ooniiiiilico?
II
')■>
iliiriML;- the wh
" to hill) — (it' 1 1
ow ca I wo t'lirlhor I
ih' of Ihoolocli
ii'caloniiiy; a man
loliovc thaltiio Dofondant, who showed hinisolC
• oiild have commiiicd
nd III the |)rosonio of sovoral i
wlioni ho did not I
-iiidi a sorioiis laiilt as ll
know, whoso nanio ho is ,,l
■<o pnidoiit
lis imimioiJ
Ihiis that Hiiloiii
lorsdic
I'olali's it.
i, "and 111 tho tone of ordimii
'lif,'i'd lo ask
y <'on\orsaiion ?" (:
ir It
.M
oreovor huw cat
to Iho Del
II wo e.viilaii
ion'.aiirsconiiiiiiioo? As
lo llie Defendant, ll was alter tl
hill siuii is iioi Iho oas
ill' ofien went to '1'
1 wiiy Diifoiir di.l not. alter tlio iiit
iio was alarmed, ho .sliould have shown himsoK favoral ,lo
orviow, relurii
ll' iiilorviow ho ()ii;,'ht I
Accor.|ini,r (o liis ,,wii ovidonce it w.-is I
o have freiiiieiitod iiis oommitic
ii'ophilo .^imard. II, ,w coii|,| ho, ihoroh
lellire (ho inlerview tl
iMntimio to work tor Mr Tivmhlay, shall 1
ft'iidaiii
lr>.
iO hell
rojily : — •' Ifyoii conliniio von will
oso inv place
ire, .say to the Dofond
lat
•It
I'r than to .sijo l)ai;
ose i(.
I
The Del
And how 01
lint.
Iho He
and speak in his favoar: for tl
■ I'ontiiiiio,'' that is in tVeoii
'ofeiidanl could noi ;is|.
li illl\■thill^■
wh.at Diilbiir di.l
diifit his coinmillee at Thoopl,
•d
aco.irdin^r |,, t|,^^, ..vidonci
Thori'loro in Dull
fi"idiotions Mhich Wolllll Mllli,-o to (1
ovidonce there are i,dariiiLC imlikel
lions are in iiivcn of .Mr. Treiiil,
iioie lit it. Let
ilioods and iiie.vplicalil
re ,iieiit.s his commiltoo. Still iiioro he tak
■>y, and he shows hiiiiself f
lOt iH consider them: ]si. ||is ooi
e eoii-
ivie-
iivorahle to .Mr. I,
him to .St. L'rhaii
can make him |<iso h
I where he has tl
I's part ill the Dofoin
iiii.Uoviii, and
ant s triumph and follow.'
is III
of
Iilace and .Mr. |
iiiii;- It l.y w rkiii;; lor .Mr. T
"' ooiira-e to u-ive him his hand. 2nd. .Mr. Tronil
HOWS this and still ho is afraid
jaiii^'ovin cannot ; ho U
omlilav
romi
liolroijiiciil.s hiscoinmitleeand dcchnv.s I
Uef
ire tho Defond.ani had I
■)4() what ho calls "ooniiiiiiiii^Mo work ll
limsolf in his fav
Del
■r Mr. T
■our; We miis( .si
loiidant and whon in con
ronilil.'iv.
ho ceases to interfere in (he election and to I
•oiiuenoe he shoald havo declared himself ni
rei|iieiit tho Defondant's
ireatoned him
pposo this is
till Alter the throat of the
lof liim,
-ponly
committoo.
There is in this conduct
\hicli is not to his honor.
;iiid the words df Dm
our a i-!iarac(er of dii].li( it v and d
occit
Wo may aijd tl
liat in assistiiii,' at the Dofeiifl,
wore ^'oiiin, on," ho played the |>art of ti spy; ami
lints committoo " to see how tl
if we wish to know what contid
oan place ,1, tho evidence of a spy, let us read the wor.ls of Jud.^o Hlacklmrn in tl
case
(■>. and 11. page 2;J3.)— - Thoro id ii peculiar cli
iiss of evidence ooeurr
iintcs
lonc'o we
!io Stalloid
iiif,' upon these
oloi'lidii |lolilioli^<; I iiiciiii tliMt ol' wiliii'^^cs Willi III ii iiitiihial loiiil oiio wmilil cull r^i-ll'-
2-30 ilifti Ti'iiitiii;.' wilii(w>t"i,— .v//iV«, iii;i)riiic'i'>, iiii.l |iei>i)ii> j,'iiill_v oriiiini) nccDnliin; \„ ilicir nwii
Nlurv. will) ciiiuii lo HOok tilt" ii'Wiinl tliiil is to Im i^.it by li>lliii:,' llio tiiitli llii' otlior wiiy
III a ci'imliml coiirl ii mtUcI of uMiy woiilil lu'vor hu |ioniiilti' I ii|in • tin, <.vi.|,.nro (ir»tiK'li
witiM'K.sos withiMit <'.'iiilirinaiinii, 'Hiiil Ii:h Ikiii; n^^o huim t'«lal>lisluv| In ii livil CDiirl.
tli')ii;;li Ihoy ui'c !iii)!<ol ii|iiiii willi illsti'ii-.|, llioro is no ahsDliito mvossiiy iIimI tliny slioiiM
1)0 I'Diiliriiicul. Ill such iiii|iijiics a-" iIilxo wo U'lisf, Imik ii|i )n ii willi ciuisiilonililo ilistnist,
hill Hiill (real it as Inrni'iiiatiuii which may he inic ll calls ii|ii)ii tlin other si.lo In ^'ivc
ovi'lciicc ill or.lcr (o c\|ilaiii Imw il was. In thai, wa\ llic^u wiliicssos arc" valiialilc, liiil as
II m'lici'al rule ihcy ^Icnilil not he ukuIc //c nhi/i/e old i-uiir or he Ihd iniich ielici| iiiiiin."
What I have saiil sullices in show lliat Duloui's evilciice i> liir iVoiii con^lilutiiii; an
2()0 ini't'illahle ami cerlain pl'oor; We must a'hl Ihal il has heeii ciiiiii':clic(c I hy llio Itelciiilaiil,
aii'l hy llie wiliU!--s (liiillciiietle. Ouloui' h uiii;; mcnlimicil in a |ueci-.e manner, the ilay,
the |ilacc, aiil thclciiir when he iiicl tliu I )elenilaiil, ( iiiilleiiiel lo sweaivs llial on llie ila\-
anil hour imlieatuel Uiilour iliil not coino to rheo|ihilo SiinaiilV, uml iliil not moot llio
Delcli'laiil.
I am riifhl In cnncluiliiiL; ilni :li(' socniiil urouinl oreiiin])lainl an'ain-l the l>clenilari'
is not siillicieiilly prove I.
;il'i!. I'rii-iiinis ill' iii,:iHf/ fo the ('i»iiiti/.
Ah wescc liy Ihe hoailiiiL' nl'lhis Ihinl uroninl of c(Hn|ihiint, there is not only a <|UCstiiin
as lo sdino ill lividiials that the l>elenilant wnuM have lii-ihdl, or altein|itei| to hrihe, hut of I he
2(0 u hole I'.iiiily he woiilil have wi>lieil to have li.ni'jilil. »:;( lilr-. 'Tlie act mi which this accu!' -
lion rests, is the iiiosl simple, llie most coninnui, ami at ilic same lime iho most innoeent,
wlil'li, ill my opiiii<ui, a eamliilalo oun coininit.
i'he I)cleiiihiiil was uiMi c>>iii;;- a piihlic mccliiiu-. An elector iiiterru]»te(l him ami in-
qiliroU if ho couM ulitain moiioy lor puhlic works in llie eiiiinly if ho is electoil, lis ho is in tlio
u|)])osilion. The lieleiiilant aiisworoil in the no^'alive, anil U'liloil that ho must upset tlio Gov-
cinniuut which will tiikonioro or lcs.s timo.uiiil that alterwai'ls ho mii;lit pcilmps ohlain i'or
tlio county its sh.'iro 111' Iho jj;ranis which would he votoil tWr puhlic work^. ; that, at all
events, in ihc present case, il was not a (|iiosliiin of moiiov lull one of principles.
1 ill) icii hclii'vc Ihal one can .seriously maintain that tlioso words of tlio Dol'undant
2S0 I'on^liliile all acl of coi rii|)lioii.
II.
ACCKSATlO.N'.S VOVl.NST Till; AOKNT.S nl rllE |iKI'KNl).4 NT.
1st. AijdiiiKt Mr. .losi'jih Kiiiii>.,
Aflor having' hoard all the evideiioo in this ease, I o.xpoctod that Iho PetiliniiurM
.would not persist in all llio aofii.salions they had attom|)tO'i to |)rovo, and t'at thoy would
ahandoii, at least, some of them, hut in this 1 was iiiiHtakeii ; lliey did not withdraw
one of them, whalcvor niaj- liavo hccn tho evidcneo produced.
The aucusation a;;aiiisi Mr. Kane is ono of those which I heliovcsl was not serious.
(iiegoire Jean goes to settle his account with Mr. Kauo. who is Mrs. Nuiras agent.
8
• >i|)) ll wai» 'lui'iiii; lliii wvi'l< |ii'fOoilin;{ the \oiiiij{. \'uiy imtiiiully, alicr llio accitiini »mw m'i-
tlf'l, (lio clc'i'lion wan N|i(ikL>ii nf, an'l Mr. Kaiut |iruiMr> ilu lii'iuinliiiii, wlin h liii i.Miii|ji|a(i'.
lircyoin' Jcaii rcplii'S. oven if Mr. I.aiij^i'vin wore •' riiuai*" IVntu licail Id toot Im wdiiM rujt
viil<' tiir liiiii. 'I'lio aii^wui' wtu I'lioij^t'lk', ami liic;,")irt! Ji'ari ^aiil " tlii- in all lli;i', |«i»is((|
I'ciwi'fii ii(«;'' lial lie i>niiu>elia(fly ailtli'<l, ■' Iml hf >aiil lliat iiiii;lit omIiaiaK-' iiic; " i/xmr-
mil iw iitii''!') ai'il iliiN it till' MHiliMU't' wliicji l> a-'--<'i'l(>il In hu an attmnpl al iiiiiinlilaiiini,
|[ii\v il:i| .Mr. Kaiif I'lmie !■> u.>f llie>(! ■.\iii'<l> '.' 'I'n wliai wore llicy a i-'uly? Ami
N\hal ijiil lie really ihi'aii? Of llii- wo know notliinir II it wai »aii| iii aiii^wir I'l (iic-
1,'iifo Joan's last roliiaiU, tlic riatiiini iMoaiiiiiL; ni ilu worilt \va> lliis, •• ron^;!' " as ymi aro
ii niij,'lil uiiiliaiT Ns yiiii III viiiii uj^aiiiNi Mr, Ijanjiuvln il' lie \\<-\\> •■ iMiiu'r ' !'n>iii licuil to
;))i<i loot.
|j(> that as it may, il woaM Im iiiiia-.i to aiiiiiil an yluiMion on acooiint nt a vaijiiP
ii'iiiaiU, ami oMo willioal any ileoidoil Kij,'iiilk'alion, at* thai wliicli .loan ailrilniti'.s to .Mr.
Kaiio; ami t »lmfc llic i>|iiiiioii e.\|itushel by .liiilgo Liiwsoii and ciutl \i\ tlio l)nrumlanr»
l.iwyeis ill lliuir laiiiiin,
\
'• Whole llio o.\|ires-ion> ale iloiilill'iil, where ihey aio only iced ii -.in ino ocoasioii,
• and whore Ihoy are Miseoptihle ol an iiiiioront inoanid:^, wliioh iKoaiiiii^^ wj > ;)iit ii|ion
'• ihein liy sni> ■> oC the hy^iamlers, 1 shoald mil Hvd iiiyKolt' jn»litli''l in holding ihal this
• aniiiiiiil- '. I ' Mill lie inlliieiu'e.
" i'liiliie inllio ""o, liUe other tVaiidnol' whioh it is only a H|iut'ios, iiiilst ho estalilislied
;;l(| ■' b\ ovi Ici.i 1 . and (ii; not be arrivod at hy oonjooliiro."
.'lid.
' ( Hull. Mr. J'rii''
This aooiisatioii ':> .still lo-s rinindod than tlio pro'e lini;' one Andre C.ino relaies
llial .Mr. I'rieo eallcd .M W\» lioiihu some time before the votin;^ lo >oo a man named lioiiis
'1 rem I lay who was there; that he did noi speak (if iliu elooiion, nor of .Mr. Ii:ui,i;eviii, and
lliat, however, he said, we know not why; If you will bo "for me" I will hire yon to
ulleiid lo my tishinj.; al Tadoasac; (jionr trmlrv ma in' hi' I'l T<ij/<nis(i.-). This evidonec is
formally oonlrndioled by .Mr. I'rioe, and ihoiofore, lie' aeeiisalioii is onliroly iin|iroVv(1.
lird. A'jiiiiiKl .Mr. Uiu'ik (imithier.
The I'otilionorsaooiiso .Mr. iVnislJaiilhier ofhavini;- iiUimidale I Iwo elodors. Tliofua.s
■••1(1 Tremlilav and Charles lioiiohanhwliii are the only two witnesses liroaitlil iijiby the I'olilionors
tos'l^,lain their aeoiisalinn Thomas Tremhlay deelares to Denis (taiKhior that he iluos not
intend Ki vote, that he will leiiiiiro lo borrow money to ])ay for his land ; ho protends to srj
lliat lieiiis tiauthier told hinilha! lieoiij;htlo bo more indopondeiit, that if Mr. CollanI would
not lend him money, others* would; that .Mr. I'rioe toll him lo take jjoods on aooouiiL of
his ilebt, but ho was ([uile free not lo take iheni." .Vdmiltin^' these words to be triio^
they do not really ooiivey eitiior a pKiiiiise lo leml nioiioy, or a tlireat, not to take the
•roods in payineiit.
These an' two faols whieh Denis (4autliier -taled, viz., that ollicrs as well ai Mr.
Uollard oould lend money to Thomas Tromi lay. and that ho fdaulhier) was five lo lake
■■•'() llio uoods or n<»t ; iail "ho docs not say to Tremhlay what he will do if he vote.s for ono
rather than the other. .Moreover Denis Cauthier appearini,' as a witiioHs for the Dtfendaiit
uweartt, that ho did not address the above words to Thomas Tremhlay, and I have no
reason to believe the ovidenee of Tiiomas Trembluy in prcleroiiee to that of Donis Gauthier.
^.
:'.5<»
I niiiy .-'iiy lliu siiiiio lliiiig wilh ^^■^■:ll^i to riuirlo B()uc!i:int. Tliu wovA:, whit-li ho
[.rolbiHls wore iuldrosseil In liiin liy l)>'iiis i ;;iiiiliiur, woiiia ivally oiisiiiuli; an altoinpt at
iutiini'laliDii. Hm l>i'"is <Iaulliior |M>^iliv^•ly ilciiifs liaviii.n said any sudi lliiri',', ami
Cliarl.'s IS.iiu'lianl liim-oll Muclar.'.l U, Allroirriomlilay llial iH'iii^ ( laiilliici- ilid not prcvotit
hiiii Iriim voiili-. I'lU that lio lia.l not votu.l Lccani' it 'li.l not -uit liini, {/mr.; ,,,>,■ ra «e
//// iiiIdiiiiiiII /i".'().
:;4(l We- miisl tlniefoiva-ain con.'lmlo in lliis caxt lliat tUv i.roof ..f llic IVtilioner^ is
insiitlii'iont.
Uli. A'/itiii"! Ml. (hii.fiiiii: (,'niill'irr.
Mr. (iaiiil,ieH>MifmborortiicviiK"lKH- Local Lr-i,-lalnro lor tlio County of Charluvoix.
Wlirii thr c^Urlion iH-an. llu- S(.'^>ion of llio Loral I'arlianicnL lia.l just tini>ii.'.l. On
aiTivinu- in tlu> County, Mr (iaMllii.T -avo an account of hi- conchiri in iiarliainrnl, and at
the saino lime lie annoiinoiMl tho cainli'lalnfc ofllu' Dufundanl.
The PctitioMci-s malio a ci-inio of his havin;,' nicntionc.l in this .li.snmrso, (ho Ifon
Mines ofSt. Urhain. tho llailway t,. Laho St. John, an.i parU.Hilar'.y a -fant of 8ii<M),
which ho had ohtainod IVon, (iovon.nnM:i lor the conslniction of two hhd-cs in St. I iham.
I can hardiv underhand how one can :.nd niatlcr lor acci.-alion in Mr. (iaiithior's word.s.
lie had hecn accused in the parish of havin- Leen the cause of the Ion- suspension ol tho
works at the Mines. There coidd he nothin- nn)ro natural than that he should se,/,e tho
Hrstopp'"''""''^- "fo.U'ulpalin- himself, and of jirovin- thai he had done his ntnto.t that
thow.u'ksat the Mines necoiuinue hand it is idle to protend (o soo in that an electoral
halt.
The ,,n.iccled IJaihvay lo Lake St. John, en-a-es public attenti.m. hut there was not
then, nor is there vol anv'lixod lino adopted. Mr. (iaulhicr intortns his constituents that
ho ha.s stroi,i,dy u.-od l:,o (lovornmont to have a survey made to see if it would not he
possible for Uio road to jiass through his c.ninly.
;;C,() Therfc is certainly nothint; illei.'al in that.
Mr (lauthieralsoinb.rm- the electors of his parish that ho has obtained from (iovorn-
ment'sn'iH. lor the construction of two bridges, hut he adds that he will aj;a,ii spoak about
this ufler .ho olecu.m. It is with these last w.u'ds that tho petitioners titid the most fau t
lUii I believe lliev are too willing' to hiamo, (7"''V,v // m-nrul Iroi^ <le l,„n,. vohntL)
Where i- the barn;.' Is it in announcing' .hat a ,^ranl was ,d,tainod. In tins Mr. (.auMiier
„„|V fuhilled his .h.ty as a member of I'arliament. Was it in .lelcrri « until alter olec-
li„;, ,lK-diMributi.mor the money nnd the ONeculion of the wor,<s ■.indeed, I would
•1 ..usious to know what the iVtitionors would have sai.l if Mr. (iautbier had spent tho
S:;,,.; dui-in, the election. U is then, 1 an, sure, ihey would have proclaimed '"-•ni^K.,,
Ll 1 sincerelv believe in actio,' as ho did Mr. (iauthior was wiso and pi-.dent. N\ itl
,e.nrd to Mr.'cauthior, tho I'otitionors have accused tho Defendant of bavin.' eniployo.i
Li;;; as a;;cnt in his election, althou;;!. ho had boo., found fcuilly of corrupt p.'aOces by
this court, in a previous election.
Section l.);i of our Statutes, which is tho base of this accusation, is not clear a. lo
the term of „ v;// which it employs, and wo mtiy '•ontond with some appeara.ico ol reason
^„t , 1, !.c .• named bv the candidates in virtue of «ootiou Vli , but I need not
^70
.loi'i.lo (his (nie^li<iii. In order to make .-wlion loi! a])-,)!.)-, it woul.l l>o. M.M.v^saiy Unit the
(•aihliilalo was aware tliat tlicajjeiit eriiploveil liail lieeii louii.i .^uilly ol eoi ni|it |,raelice>
wlieieas the DeleTi.lant swears i)o>itively that i( wa.s only alter the Kleetioii on, llie IDlh of
Kehniury hu-t ihat he U-imuA Mr. (iaiit'hier had heeii tomrl guilly oi eorriii.l praetiees.
;;S(I "ilh A'/iiirsI Mr. ./. N. I'rrriiiil'
11 ,nav he re.iiarke.l thai 1 entered into lew details in disiwsini; ol iho imTC-o.lin-
.eensations a-aiM>l the Irion.is of the Defendant ; I will nore hrief witl, re-ard to ilns
one, for the |.r(pof i> far '.Voin >atislaet:)ry.
In several preceedm- ^ases it was sullieient to destroy tlic [n-oofof the PlainlitVs to
eontra.t if with the i-roof of the defendant; it will he the same with that whleh 1 at
jireseiit examine.
Mr I'enanll is a lawyer, and wa,- entraMed wilh a >iiil a-aln^t .Seraphin Lajoie.
Tids Lajoie^ind hi.s wife sav that Mr. I'crraalt inomi>ed then, lo drop the ease if Lajoie
«onld s'li, ■! Ihe llefeiahml. The ehaij;e is serious; hut tl ^^ two witnesses who
■;.,(, .sM>tained it are n,.t worthy of e, nlidenee, .- d .hey are moreover eon.rad,eted ,n ti,eir
pnneipal points hy Scraphin Villeneuve, .lnle> Trndelle and Mr. I'erranlt.
Soraphin J.ajoie is a man of no eharaeter, and his wile, who, aeeordin;; lo the
eviden.e, enjovs u hettur roputation, <loes not inspire me with nunh more eonhdeneo Ihe
mam er in whieh she ^'ave her ovidenee. her apparent disposition to prove oven mneh more
,h. husband, the eare >he look.to say that .Seraphin Villeneuve ua.- no, present at the
tir.t inlerview at -Mr. iVrraull's, while her husband himself admit, thai \ illeneiive was
„,,-ent,the strange lael that Lajoie -h.es not men.ion that hi. wile wa. ;..esen. on this
,eeaMon,an.l.hat'villeneuve swears positively that >he was no, preMM.t, all this juMihes
le faith in her evidenee. i'lvon had the deteme prodaeod no other
me m patliiiii
lull
,„„ evi.lonee than that of Mr JVrranll, 1 would not. ne.sitate
^ u unded; lai, there aie moreover the testimony of \ .lleiieuve,
of witnesses who eumc and proved the had reputation ol Lajoic.
111.
USnlK CI.KUICAI. INI'I-IKNTE.
lol. iie.silate to deelaru ihe aeeii.-ation
rrudello, and of a luimbor
III
1 10 Iniv
1, i, „.,l without hesitalion and proper dilUdenee that I outer into the last part of
We have now conio to tho eulininatin- points ol the va-e, and it ;^
ihis niiiorlanl case. U e liavc nou i oi.iv, ,., , ;,
;,;„ ,„ easv task ,o dissip.i.o the tormidable obseun.y whieh surrounds ,t.
I, .vould renuire a voliinio to yive the nnostious .hieh will arise their proper dovelo:.
,„„ '\l the nii.nre of the case itself imposes upon me le duty o. oin, .u-ie., I I
;;:;,„„ bee,, ablo to make the work as eon,plo,o as 1 would have wished. ^
on the other hand, 1 an, aware of what awaits n.e at the issue of thiscase.
, , ,,., ,„„ n,r...,len the inveetive, tne oulraj^es and the thro,.ls which a .^r.ain
„ , , : ^, n me on the oceasioi. of thej./,.. »^ I ,.-onouneed at .ore and 1 am
;;;;; ';; U,at ^ wm reeomnienee its peaeotul denunciations, •• ,..n,r. re.n.ao.r...
„,. ,,„.„.,,.. ,,e.un,and a Mont.eal p.per has even ^''-'--^;:;^f 1;^";!,':;^;"
;^ if 1 do 'not deeide.aceonling to its desire. When the imertj and u.d. p- .•■•<•"«
If I
I'nrliuiiiei
u
ol' jiicl<;c'.s is so uikU'I'sIooiI, it is iiol >iir|irisiiin' llioy would wisli to ilc^iirivo the cli'i^y ol'
tlii'ir lihi'i'ty in ])foiK'liinir. Hut, noitlior tliri-ats nor aluiso will preventino Iroin olieyiii^'
the inspiriilions of my coiiscioiii-i'. iioi' IVoni Jiicli;iiiu; iicforilini^ to tlio li^'lil \vlii<'li hIuiIv
4»2() niiii rctloi'lioi) liiivi^ niven mo.
I Unow my liiily aii'l I will fiillil ii lon-cioiitioiisly, willioiil tcaiin^' lliccoiiM'cim'nces.
I will not follow llicMslcm adojili^l liy the ''oimsi'l of both parlios who discii-st'tl
iiniler iliH'oront heads the word- altrihuteil to eaidi |>i-ic>i. Thf'so ditViivnt accusations
are more oi' loss similar, and the samo principles ap|p|y to all.
1 will place thorn undef ono head; hnt to make my i-omai-
into thi-oe ehaptei's: — the " I'roi f," the " Law." the " l'^eoedont^
■ar I will divide tliem
TIh- r>o,f.
I. The tii'st (|iH'stion to In- ilocidcd is the K'nalily ol an important portion of ih
■}:;(i
The I'otitioneis have alloi,'ed that certain Cines of the County of <'harlovoix cxortnl
ndiio intltieiuc on the electors hv tlircalonim;- them with spiritual and temporal evils holii
pulp
III the
remarks ina<le li»'
its and elsewhere ; ami durin
th
"/'
(7« ihcv hrouixht wilnessos to ]irove
tlie>e ])ricsls out ol'tlio pulpit, or sennon
th
iid proa* hod from lie
pulpit. The iMbnd'ints ohjocled to this la^t proof, that is that of sermons preached in tho
]iiilpits, aiiil ho atiirmod that this Court is not competent to receive sui
■h evitlenci
Tl
le oliiection appearing to me very ser
oils. I
•(I il to the merit-
(in; iwr
i/e)
[It the samo time
'llM
that I did not eoiisider the proof il
i think I am ri.'.ht in
mam
laiiiiiii;' this opinion and I will o.Nplaiii tho reasons which 1 then exiirossod, in a lew
IKI
To sustain his olijoction the Dcl'eii lant in--i-.|
cd on
tho ru/i-siiistica/ i iiimiinitiis, and
/f two kinds,
thoroforo I must iirsl explain in what those immiiiiilios oon^isl. I hoy are <
(I do not here speak of occlo^.iasiical ])roporty; : •• Immunity ,lf c,tHs,i and immunity rtt'/c/-
Immunity li,- CiUisa is when the case lo ho decidoil is spiritual, thai is, when it reforh
to a point of doctrine either do:,fmatic or moral, l-'or example, sliouhl a person ask mo t()
annul his marriai;o. on account of the conditions necessary for tho validity of the sacrament
not hiiviiiir Ijoeiifultillod, or should a person siio his Cure t > ohli^'o him to ;;ivo ahsoliition
or to iidminister a saeramonl, in those eases, or in otiioi - of tho same sort, tiiert) is immu-
nity de ciiis.i, for tho-io eases hcl on-- evi leiillv lo the spiritual order, whieh tlioi r very nature
450 shows ; hut let us rcMiiemhor this ■■ imuiuiiily ,/,■ uii/iii" i • not a •• priviloije. it is a "ri^ht
foundeil on the constitution it.sclf of the church, and the spiritual nature of the cases.
Immunily ih persoihi is the •■real privile,'c" if ones own v'ompctont court (,///y;w_^
mpctnit.) It is personal, inherent in every ecclosia.stic, ami it consists in this, that the
elesia^tic cannol he accii.se I or cited iielorc any other than an ecclesiastical trihunal.
Thi
t extends to all eases, ol whatever nature, with a few
s personal inimunily of the jirics
raio exceptions wliioh would ho too loiif^ lo enumerato. tVhether ho acts as a jiriest or us
Il citizen, in puhlic life, or us an indiviiliial in j.rivato life ho is alway.s "oeelosiiistio" {per-
ioniie ,uie^Hii./i./iif). and as such ho oiijoy.s tho jirivilegu ii'i i\\<i comMcnl Iribumii, that is tlial
ho may object to tlio jurisdiction of any lay court,
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l''|" .Siicliis Catliolic diiftrin.', (111.1 I can ..x|.l;iiii it, in a lew wonln. I am inconii.c-
tont in all casos in wliii'li tlio iiuestion lo la, lU.cidui appoi tains to ilo^matie (loctrine,
morals or ilisriplinc, ami aUo in tlicno wlicro the jioi-Mm prosecuted is an ecelosiastic. I am
compoteiit to jiid(j;e the aets ,,ta priest in so Car as they may aire.l the liKJils of tliiiU
l)arties, iirovided these aets he of a temjioral iialare, ami that the jiersoii of (ho priest is
not fit cduKe he('">'<! the coiirt.
It will he remenihered that in the ease of •• Derouin and Artdiamhault " wliieh I
doeided at Soivl, 1 invoked the pnviloge of oeelesiastieal immunity in order to declare
myscdf inconipelent
I maintained tliat our Treaties and our ("(institution roeof^nizinf,' in (his country the
ho 'free exercise of the Calholie reli<,'ion. wiihoiii any eoi.eordat hein^', made to limit it," it
follows that IhoCatholie Chuivh enjoyed the ri,i,'ht to K'>vern itself according to its own
rules and to its ecclesiastical law. 1 inferred (hat the ecclesiastical immunities should be
admitted and acknowleljjed in our laws, as lorming part of the ecclesiastical law, and I
conse.iuontly dismissed the action which the > laintiir, Derouin had hrought against
hi;i Cinv.
Several newspapers asserted that this judj,nnent had been condemned at Rome, and
they gave us to underr,tand that ecclesiastical
iminunilies were not acknowledged even at
liome as a iloctrine susceptible of application in C
I lake advantage of this opportunity which is now given to me to establish the
jsi) truth ol the facts, and also to correct what may have been wrong in my Judgment at Sorel.
The Roman Doctors to whom a Hi^hop of this country had submitted my d
approved and praised it in its essential points and in its conclusions. I will mention wl
they disapproved.
eeision
liat
clos
While fully acknowledging, witi
lOUt
restriction, -personal immunity" of the
tic, 1 .saw many ditliculties in its application to the jiriest in iiiiicly
. , ., teinjioral
art'airs. The fact of there not being any ecclesiastical court (o^ficla/iies) in this country
seemed to mo to create very serious embarrassment in the jirocedure in civil and criminal
matters, and 1 said " it seems tome that this jirivilego does not extend by divine right
further than ecclesiastical functions, and that in purely temporal atiUirs in countries where
4()() there are no ecclesiastical courts {offlritdilh) ecclesiastics are like other members of
.society subject to civil tribunals.
civil
1 therefore made a distinction between the Priest exercising' his .s;
icerdotal ministr'
and the Priest accomplishing the ordinary acts of civil life, and without denying the privi-
lege of the .second, 1 was ot" the opinion that personal immunity should bo strictly limi'.ed
to til* first.
It is this distinction that the Roman Doctors disapproved of, and they dechxred that
"personal immunity'' should be admittat in its integrity.
For tlie same reason 1 consdored as of a spiritual nature, the case wliieli I had to
decide, because it was a sermon which was before me, and I declared myself incompetent,
"•()( I ■' rationc mataur.y
They were of opinion at Home, that the PlaintiS' not having asked me to decide
13
wlifllii'i' I liu . -turmoil of Ills Ciiiv vvas "lU'coi'iliiii; to iloctriiu'," or not, lull to iIimIiIi' whotlicr
liist-'nn! Iiiiii iiisullol liiiii ill tin' |(illpil, I slioiil.l li;ivo ilcclaroil ni3-soll' iiH'oin|ic'tciit. rijti,i>it
prrsoiM, iiii 1 not nitioiu' Hhiteiur.
As may lie soon, my ilucisioii at Sorcl, aocordiiii; to tlio IJouiuii iloi'lors, was wnmi^
in two |ioiiU.s : Int - k ili<l not saiu'tioii "all" (iio truth in |ii-o|)osiii^ to limit tliu poi'soiial ini-
iiiiiiiil\' ol till' pfiosl to •• LMclo-iastica! atlaii's;" 2iii| — It j,'oiu'rali7.oil too iiiucli in iloclai'inj;
as spiritual all casLw wlmio llio st'i'iiioii of a priusl is lji'oui;lit liufoix' tlii' Courl.
Ll'I us now apply tliu pfiiifiplos wliicli i liavo just ciuiticiatuil to tlio olijoclion of
• I I (I tliC! Dufunilaiit, to tiio proof of somo sermons hy tlio Potitioiiors.
Tlio iM'ciiJant L'unnot invoUn llio priviio^f i>t'i'C(l<'>ia>liral piM'soniil inunuiiily, as tnc
prti'lios to the caiiso ({7/ ,-,///ir) arc laymen. I knowtiiai it was assi'itod that the ))ii('st wlio>o
»i'i;iMons Were provoil, wuro in reality mado parlii's to the ease (mii <•« diusi). liui this is an
error. I do not try llioso priusts ; I cannot proiiouiico any sentence of conilemnation Mi;ain>t
tiieiii, nor is any asked for. No notice of accusation was served on thom, and conse(|uently.
ill virtue ot section llU, (ItT Vic, ehiii). !l) they (oiild not ho oven dejirived of tlioir riijht of
sulfraj^o. if the elect ion were amiiillod for undue intluonco hy thom As to the penally
imposed hy section 11."), it would roiiuire a personal suit anaiii-.t thom tocondonin thom, an I
it woulil ho only in that case that personal immunity could hu elaimod.
.',2U Xoilher can the Dcfondanl invoke, to sii|)poi'l hi^ ohioctioii, immunily di- oi'lui,
for llio inei-e liicl on the part of tho ]>oliiionors, that they aile;,'o and try to prove that
certain euros have, from the jinlpit hy throatoniny; sormoiis, intiinidatod tho electors, doos
not ffivo this case a •' spiritual '' ch.iracler. Thoro arc in thesosorinons, or in those so-callc I
sermons, matters of an entirely temporal naliire, which tall nei'essarily iiniler my jurisdic-
tion, 'riieio may he, aiiil we shall seo tiial there ai'o, some others whieli relate to moiMJ
theology, oi to tho tuacliin^ of ("atliolie trulh, ami which, consenuently, I am not compelont
to Judf^o. [ict us take (examples in the ca-*o. Two witnesses for the petitioners h.ave do-
dared that tiie ijovcrond .Mr. Fatard, their euro, sail to somo of his ptirishoners, whom ho
liad clearly dosii,'\atod from tho pulpit: ''that without his assistance iind that of some
5o() i'arincrs of means, these parishioners would not liavo heeii aide to sow their lands tin? pre-
vious sprin:^, and that if tlie\' wished in the future to have the same assistance on the p:irt
of their euro, and of the>e :;ood farmers, they oUi,'ht to vote iis titer did." It is clear that
tho'-e words do not come within tlie domain of the spiritual relation, (tie tdin-lh ni en in'ii n
I'oidre " D/iifiliti'/,") and if it had not hcon proved h}- the Defendant that in reality .Mr. KalMrd
did not speak in thi-- manner, I should ho ohlii^ed to decido whether these words constitute
an attempt at iiitimiilation.
ft was sail that another Cure, ainoni; other Ihinifs said from the pulpit, that
Catholic liheralism was an error condomne 1 hy the Church, and that it would he a sin to
vote for a liheral Catholic.
540 '' is evident there is in those words a doctrinal toichinjjf on which [ am not com-
petent to decide.
Tho .sermon is not then in it.self ahove all lay jurisdiction ; it is the sulwtanco of the
sermon and till' nature of tho demand hoforo the tribunal made with rognnl to it whidi
delorniincs to -.vliich jurisdiction it hulon;,'s, provided always that the priest himself is not
prosecutwl.
i^
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Ah.pllKT >n|.lf may lio iiiof.il to ll.n.w ...ur,. li^^lit .... (his ro,„,,li..at(M| Mil.J.rl.
A .•use. I„ n nvo l.iy.iu.n h l,r..i./M l,..li..T i,i... Tho I'h.ii.tiir ..|Mi,„s „|| |,iH
lalliers oHtato um I n.i; his au\y lawtal hoir. Tho DeH.n.la.il l,rin«s Corwanl a will of the
__ iU'vmsM whir,, .■„„,iiliil.-* hirii his solo io^'aloo; ImiI Iho I'JaililitV assorts that tliis will wa
•tod nol Miado of till, ivw will ol'iho lostator, an:! is t.ho r.sult ol Iho suu-.-siioi, an.l invoi^ling
uso.l hy Iho (,'iiiv ..r ilio parish hy nioan-.r iniimi.laiin;,' „v lliroaloniii« ivinarks made in iho
jiiilpil ami ol^cwhoro
Can il 1.0 maiiil:.iiio,i that llic I'lainliir has not Ihori^'hllo pn.vo ihola.'t, hoallo^a-s
l).V saying' that 1 am hot oompolont to jii.|j;o thu acts nf Iho priosi / I <|o n..i think h-x
Tho priost porsonally nol hoin - a parly in Iho oaso and iIm. (juoslion to ho .lo.iMwl not
lolalin^' to Catholic ijo.iiino ihc Dolon.lani oannot invoko on lor pn-.onal '• inmiunitv " or
■' immiiiiily dc aiu.ui.'''
In Iho prosont oaso there irn not in qiioslio!! a will hut a political mandate conti.liil
to Iho DoloiMlunt. hy tho majority of the olociors of llio ("ouniv of Charlevoix. Tho
•SCO potitionors, eloolors in this County, assort that this mandate was not frooly jrivon; thai n
nnmhor of olociors wuro illo-ally inMuom,.! hy tho sermons oi .omoCuros, aiul tliocontruet
oniorod into k-twoon tho oleotors and thoir inomhor is thus vitialo-l and ouj,'hl n, ho
annullod. The Cures are not porsonally in tho ouso (,// r^w,-), nnd tho sermons aro men-
tlon.'d only inasmnoli as they atioet tho rights of Ih- parlies in tho easo.
To .! Me in what inoaMiro they may have .illoetod iho ri^'htH of third imrtios, in on«
word, to ; -e tho ertool they have jirochicod upon iho minds ot those who af,'reod to this
contract of w,,/,,/,,/^, whioh Ihoy ask to ho annullod, ii is nooessarv that I should know these
sermons. 1 was thoroli.ro ohli^ed to liear lli,. ovidonco iheroot', that I mi^rht ho «hlo to
_^ asivrtain what inllucnce was produced hy Ihom. Hut more than this, I nni-l d lo, at tho
•iTD demand of the i.eliiiono's, whether that influonco is •• undue," i' illei,Mi It. li.r il pur-
pose, r am ohlijred to juiliro tho doctrine of those sermons, and declaro It lal>, , i shall declare
that ram incompotonl. an.l at Iho same lime thai the inlhienee exorcised ha- hoon le-al.
Hut to declare myself incompotonl it was noi'ossary lo know the words complaine.l of^hy
tho p.'liti(mers, an.l conso.iuontly [ was ohlin;od lo allow tho evidence thereof. Mesidcs, m
r observed holl.re, in this evidence, spiritual and temporal matters are iiitermi.xod, and' if
was impossihio. diirin- tho hearini; ol tho evidence, to separate ihcni. In short, I heliove
It iioces.sary to know the whole of a .liscour.se to un.loiNtand exactly its iiioaniiur.
justified mo in having' allo.vod the evi.lonco to wliioh
These roas.Mis I think entir.
the JVfcndant ohjoctod.
"iSO 2. Lot lis n.)w see what aro tho facts pr,,ve.l n^ainst the c-ler;^'y of tho County of
Charlevoi.x.
We will first remark tliat no united action app.-ars to have been eoncerte.1 between
tho ditlbrent euivs .,f the .•..iinty in view of the election. It ha.s not hcon establi>ho.l that
they mad., any persoiml organization, ic -...y look any part in tlie regular organiza-
tion by llie supporters of tho Dofendani lav.^ ' deotod.
A- lo some of thorn there is no proo! ut .!ii. Others seem to have made known
thiir opinion in tho most irroproachuldo terms to those who wished t kr
thombelvoB to that.
enow it, and contincd
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Tim fifVci'i'Tid Mr, Ooiiui'l, I'lirc of Mit|i>iiii>. I« ul' tlmi hiimiIum', Niiiit< nl iIikim l<M)k
■VlO »">■ |>'ii'f i" till' imlili"' nii'olih^tH holcl ilui'iii;^ tho I'lcciiim, pxcciil tlu> Ifi-viTcinl Mi-. Siroi«,
will) liinl lic'oii M'oii til line 1)1' {\\f>v nK'fiiii;c». Nmit' nC tlnin iiilci'liTiKl Jn whiil \h .'K ,v'(l
oliM'ldiiil cunviHsiiij;. N'mio oC tlii>Mi vvlm uio liliiiiu"! tor llu'ir Mpoochf^ or norninns mo ,
lionoil ill tlio |iiil|iil llii> iiiiiiif-* (iC the ( .iii<lii|alf<<, mtr tioiiliii .if lliu iinliiiciil qi'< Mo :«
whkh woro ilolniiuil on ilm IniMiiiij;-.. Wlmi ilii'V iiro ri'|ii')iu<'lii<il lor ur« llio wnViU
|ll'olliilllU'ii| ill tliii |i||||iil, oi' (.'UmvllOli', nilislillllill;^, lU'i'onliiii; III |ii'lilioiiL'l's, (liroiitM ol
H|iii'ilutil evil", iiii'i I'oiinliuiliii;; iinliui inlliii-iii'u or iiiliiiii<l:ilioli
I coiiilciiM) as iiiiii'ii as |i(i-.>iliio lluv-i' wmili wihii as I'slaliliHliol liy ijie oviilmiii', wjlli
till' iianu's III' tliiMc will) iitiiMV'l tJKMii, aii'l will iiu^iiiioii only llio moit iiii|iorlaiit.
/{y thf fteivmui M>. Sir,iis :
rilll)
'J'liat liliuralism is an error i oml
I'Minc
I liy (111) Clinii'li nliirli is iiisiiinalin;; it^olf
* * llial we slionM conilial lliii*
I, ilial we slionM liuar our iiriosiH anil
aiiiiin;,'.sl lis lilii> till' St'i'|H'nl in iho <!ariU'n of Ivlivi
liliiM'alisin, whii'li n>i;,'iil Imil our cuiinlrv to rail
li|slio|is, and not tlioho " tiilno ('liriHts " and •■ I'also |iro|)lii'ls " who roint) into tlio parinti lit
NOparati! till- tlock I'roin its .slii'iilicnl, and to prmdaim llial tlin priest ims nolliiiii,' to do
Willi politics ; that if llioy lislfiicij l.. tlicso '• ravciiiiii; wolvi's" and sc|inral«> from their
cii'ri,'y, terrilile piinislimeiiis would lielall tliix eoiinlry ; that lilicralism had heen tlio cause
of llio KroMcli revolution, wlioro
iriesis had lioeii ^la
IUj;hti.
Ihal It was also inai;iii;'
du.structivo rava>;os in ({orinany, and that tliu miinu inii^lit occur hero
*
that the
liliei'al jiarly i.s dangerous, i« opposed to iho inloresis ol' relijjioii, and is con leniiied hy (ho
I'llK
llislii
thai it is now lorliiddon in eoiiscionce, lo heaCatln
liheral, as tin
bishops have conileiiiiied this hlieralisiii; llial llio ilcl ol voting' is a duty of iho lii^hoxt
iiiiportatii'c ; and llial lU llieir dealli Ihcy woii' ' rupn
lulled lo llio election of iiieli, who wished ihi
laili themselves if thev had eonli
e separation of ( hiireli and •State, and wlio
weio ondeavoriii;f to destroy tlioir eoiifidonco in tlioir jirie'is; in a word, thoy nhould vote
accorditifi lo theirc insciciu'e eii!ij;hleno I liy the pastoral lellcr [m in./iiiirut) of ihoir hishops.
Hy t/i, A',
Mr. Laiitili
(i»i;/(iis ,
That there wero in liio parish erotchoty heads (/I'/cs fnii-Zns) who woie sowing; discord
i< ^t* * that thoy should ohoy their ecclesiastical sii) crior.s who had thoriitht to onli-hten
their eonscioriee '-n^ ^ * that lilioralisin is eolidemnod hy tlio -overoifin I'ontilV
(;•>() that liheralsaic docoiveis, and that thoy should not (j;ivo ihoir hU|iport to a liheral
h: •»
idered
^ * that VicK
that it is not siitlicieiil lor a candidate to ho a Catholic, hut that his principles shmild lie con-
'.ininanuol and (taril'.ildi are ( "atholics, and that noiwiih-
inir thoy are iiialiiiif,' war on tlio Chureh * =•= that the liherals are also making war
on tlio ('hiiroli, and that it would he ii sin lo vote for a liheral unless thoy did not know
that he v»a.s a liheral * ^- that it was not pormittod in eiinscieiico to lie a ("alholic
hijcral '■'■' '-^^ that at Iho hour of death thoy would rather have heon on tiio side of the
le of Victor I'lmmaiiuel and (iarihaldi * *
Sovereign I'onlill and the Mishoiis than on the i
fiy the Rtrerend Mr. Trtmblay :
That ihore are not two kinds of liberalism hut only one, and it is eondemnoii by the
bisli
t',:^0 "I'*"'"!"'
that for him, with his knowlodj;o he would heliovo that he would commit
usiii in voting for the liheral party.
thing out ot the pulpit to an elector who came to consult him.)
(The Uovorond Mr. Tremlilay said the same
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Tlio IJovei'onil Mr. Cinq-Mai'.s oii'y rciul tiom tl.o pij^pit llu' i)!i^toi-al letter fw,r//-
ihmtnf\ ol' tlie Ijishops witli some rointii'ks on iln' dt'tiiiition oi' ('atliolic lilji'ralisin, tn
A\o\\ '.hilt it was fonilcmiiwl hy llie bishops, lint out of tho pulpit, at liis i>arsona<'o
[/rc.i/'r/trt'J, ho spoko of tho olcctioii to tiirue pt-i'sons, ami after having road extract- from
Mr. lliii.linjrton'.s s])oooh at Arj^otitouil, he sai<l : •• (or tne, kiiowiiif,' as I ilo tho nioaniiii'-
anil tho hoaririj; of JFr. Iliinliiif^lon'.s speech, ami ol the jiasloral letter [/;/<;//(/,;/;,/;/] of the
Bisho|)s, 1 would eorisiiler thai 1 would sin in votiiii,' for .Mr. I'. A. Trenihlay."
(',40 I ilo not (luole from the Uevereid .Mr. Katiird. as I do not think it is possible to find
fault with what he >aid rolatini; to tho election. Ilo made certain reniai'k.s which wore
niortiijini; to .smne of his parisiiioiiers, and ))aitiinlarly to one of ihoin, whom ho de.sij.;
nated as an "escaped ])risoner," (h/iappe i/f /<rii,<n) but the>c reinai'ks could havi^ no
sensible oltecl on the election.
f have ali'eady said that the witnesses for the dofenco bail destroyed the |)roof' advanced
by the petitioners with re^^ani to supposed threats nuule b^- .Mr. Fatiird to a certain
class of electors, that in future he would not rem. er the same services as he had prcviousl3-.
1 will, also, only say a few worts ol Reverend .Mr. |{oy, who merely repmacheil his
parishioners with tbescamlal they had caused by lightiiifiat a public meeting,', and had made
()(")() some ren)arks of a local and personal nature, which could not in anyway iMiinenci' the
vote of the electors. To punish them for tins scaiiclal they had caii.sed, he thoui^ht proper
to say ordy a low mass on the Sunday instead of iiiich mass. This matter i> eniircly
between him and bis ecclesiastical sujjerior, and I have nolhini^ to say with rej^'ar I to it.
These are the most imporiaiit facts which wore jiriived. but there arc main- details
into which I cannot enter.
Hcfore speakini;of the oiTocl which was produced by the above sermons or discourses,
it is Well to remark that sover.al ol' iho sentences rpioted, and of tho oxpiossioiis used, are
taken almost te.\tually from tho Hishop.s' pastoral letter, {maHiicnunt) and some of them
even from Scripture.
ti(i() Boforo the [{everond .Mr. Sirois, Jesus Christ had said these words, '• fiilso Cliristn
and false prophets will arise, believe tliein not," and in tho Old Testament tho Shoiihoi'd
is advised not to abandon his (old "to ravcniim' wolves."
Tho pastoral letter of tho liislio|)s which ho commented on compared "Catholic
liberalism "to the serpent -vvliich glided into the I iardon (>(' I'Mon and said'' that in conscience
Olio could not be a Catholic liberal " liike him and the other (^)res, tho pastoral letter
said tlia the supporters of this error wished to divide the tie which b luud tho people to
the Bishops; that this error wasdanj;erous ; that it bail caused calamities in I'lurope, it mi;jhl
cause the same hero, and it should be put down and the iea(diinf^s of tlie ecclosiustical
hierarchy be ohc^'ed.
(;'7() The jiastoral said, also, that tho Bishops and I'riosts could, under certain circum-
stances, declare, with authority, "that to vote in such a manner is a sin, " (que voter ai
tel sens est iiii pichi) and wo may consecjuently see tliat the Cures accuso<t had really
added but few remai ks to the pastoral letter ol' the :J2nd September, IS".").
At all events, it is proper, betbre finishini^ with the question of facts, to mention
tho probable ell'ect produced by these discourses.
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In m}- opinion it is j)orfeetly Lorlain, accordiiifr to the cvidonee, timt the yeiioral
iinil linai result of the '.'leution was not eti'octed Uy tiiein. By coniparinf^ the votes srej^i-
tered in I'avor of b<jth parties this year and in the preix'ding elections, one may easily he
(•onvinc'(H) uiat the Parishes of ,St. U'-l'ain and Haie St. I'aul jue the only two in which the
('(NO result was ditlerent in the last election. Some witnesses explained this ditlerence hy
di.scontunt caused by Mr. Irenibluy's votes in the House, and by the building of a pier at
Baic St. Paul. There is sonic truth in this, hut ihe ival e.xitlanation is touiiil in the fol-
lowing fact . Mr. Onesinie (Jaulhicr if a man who has a j,'reat deal of influence in .Si. Urhain
and Baio .St. I'aul. In I'ST-l he ii.sed all his influonce against Mr. ('hauvoau and in favorof
Ml'. Treinbhiy. In 18",") ho ran hiin>elt', and was elei'ied by ii larf^e majority, which
further increased his inrtuence. Now in IHTIi he used all his iiirtiicnce ii;,'ainl .\Ir. Tremblay,
and he consequently brought over with him a great number of his triends.
This is the e.xplanation given by the Honorable Mr. Price, and 1 believe it to be
correct.
G<|(| I have not the slightest doubt that the Ncrnions of Revd. Messrs. Sirois, Langlais and
Tremblay were of a nature to injure .Mr. Tremblay ; but that they really produced any
effect on any considerable number of electors, I am convinced they did not, ■•iiid the evidence
shows it.
I made a very careful examination of the evidence of the Petitioners on tl-.is point,
iuid I found th.'it only four electors declared they were influenced by the sermons of their
Cures; these a-o Thomas Perron, of Biiie Si. Paul; Jules Trcmbhiy, of ,St. llilariou ;
David l)as.sylva and Alexis fiagnon, of St. Pidele. Some witnesses declared that those
sermons had produced a great ett'eet, but when they wore asked (o sjiecity and to name
■/(Ml those whoso opinions had been changed, or -who hail abstained from voting on account of
those sermons, they could name only six or .■<even in all who had sai<l so to them, and the
Petitioners did not bring up these six or .seven persons to declare that ihoy had been
influenced. We may ob^el•ve that those (extrajudicial avowals of ])ersoiis who are not
lirouglit befoi'e Courts do not constitute legal ])roof.
! enter into these details only to prove two t' i gs : 1st. That the general system
of intimidation alledged by the I'ctilioners is not at all proveil by the evidence. 2nd. Tliat
the result of the I'leclion would have been just the same, with the excejition of a dilici-enco
of a tew votes in the majority, even if the above mentioned sermons had not been made.
From this exposition of the facts it results that all this voluminous eii([uirv to
establish clerical intimidation eiuis with infinitely small results: ''Four electors were
yjO influenced, three of whom did not vote," and it is fi)r this that so many iiewspa|)ers made
such an oulciy against the intolerable intertereiico of the clergy in politics, lint this is
not all the ((Uestion, for one single ease of undue influence, one single attempt at intimida-
tion, well detiiie<l, is sullicienl to annul the election.
I must consider further ai'd see if this influence to which four oloctors say they had
yielded and wliicli might have ail'ected a larger number sliould be declared undue or illogal.
I will consider the facts in a legal light. It is for the .\rchbish''p to decide on the conduct
of his clergy in a ;'eligiou> ))oint of view.
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The Law.
1 . Heioi-i' cititiir tlio text, ot (ho liiw. wliicli is to Ih> iiiterpi-oto'), it, would bo woll (o
72(1 cuiisidor what reusoti iitui ooiiirnoii seiiso (iiit;ito in rospool tn inltuoiioo in inalter.-i <>i'
oloc'tioii. J)o lliey i-oqiiiro tiuit tho jieoplo should viilo with ordy thoir t>wii lightf. and ihoir
own knowlod<,'e? Hvidoiitly not. Nono will inaiiilain that tho |ioi-tb(tioii of pailiamojitiiry
rule will ho altiiino I whon tho jtooplo will volo vvilhoiK ln'in^' onlii^'hlonod hv aiiv one.
JiiU who will eiilit;hton tho ijoojilo? It booms to ho ad in it tod hy all that tho llrst
oonier, either stmiontorclei-K, can go to the ehundi doors, or at piihlio moolings to iii.struot the
poo|)lo as to tho way in which thoy should vote. From that trihuiio whioh he may. it' iiowls
he. transform into a trilmnal, ho can juil;,'o the politics of the ooiintry, and condemn inoii,
politioa.l jiarties, thoir principles, thoir tondoncie-, and their acts. Ho may even go further
than tho political arena, and rush into the religions domain, denounce political men as enc-
780 inies of religion and of sociotv, and momlicrs of tho clergy as enemies of dhortv, of
cnlightonmonl, and of progress, and as claiming rights and powers which thcv do I'ot
possess, lie may take up the pasl,oral letter of a Mish.p, comment and refute it as he
j)loases. In a word for the ])iirposo of inlluoncing |)ulilic opinion, he may apply any means
ol persuasion, and any cunning of siieooh, and we know liy experience that his most
persuasive moans are often those of o.xaggeration, falsehood, and calumny.
It is not iiece.s.sary to have long seen the w )rking of tho cleci<jral system to know
that in reality electors uro not always intluenced, though thoy ought to be, l)y those who
are hoUer educalod than thoy, .;r by those whose position or character inspire contidonco,
hy those on whom choy are m nv or less dej)cii lent, or \iy those whoso interests are idon-
7^(1 tical with thoir own. Newspapers, p.imphlo's, .-poeolies at the eliuroh door- oral meolings,
everything is biought into roipiisition to inlluonce their v.>tes. When a candidaio is t,) ho
chosen, tho choice falls on one who h:s tho largest, personal iidliionco, who h.is the
greatest number of influential friends in tho uouniy, ho whoso |)olitical ojiinioiis an. I con-
duct are most generally approved, and can command the greatest amount ol iiilhtoiioe, so
tnat an electoral contest is nothing eUo than a clashing of rospoclivo iiilluonces, liir ob-
taining the majoi'ity of voles.
Kvery candidate iinderstiind- this state of things, and must stand tho consoquoncos.
lie must e.xpoct that his advors.ii'ies will magnily bis faults, will exaggor.iu' their results,
will draw false conclusions from Im's principles, and will repre-cnt his party as coi-rnpl, and
7oU '■"'^■"'i'tcd to lead the countiw into ruin, or as a parly which will linady bring tho counlrv
into a religious tiinl social revolution. All this is inevitable and is the lUNOssary coiise-
quenco of liberty of opinion. Ycuir principles, your iinlecodonls, your aliii'i cs your jjartv
will malvo friends tor you, and will bring intliiencos into ai-tion in yonrfavor; but thoy will
also raise up adversaries against you, and will cause olhors to unite agtiinst you. It' you are ti
free-lrtidor, you will doubtless have tho mamifacturers against you. If you are a Conservative,
all the Liberals will be opposed to you, who, in addition to tho I'acilic, .Scandal will reproach
you with hiiving betrayed the interests of the (,'atholics of New Ihiinswick and of the .N'.irih
West. If you are a Ijibei-al, tho Consorvatives will m.Mko you respcmsiblo lor the wriiiima,
discourses and acts tainted with Liheraiism, ainl will represent you as dangerous to religion.
760 In certain counties liberid principles will rally around you a largo iiuinber of elec-
tors, -•iiid in others they will alienato from you another class ot electors, the <lorgy, for ex-
ample. You entertain certain polilic.il oj-.iniotiM bc.cau-ic, ! mupnosii, yott belii.'ve tliP'n '<> Ije
ill.
*■:
l!t
tnio, or l':ivoral)k' to ymw interostti, lliat is ^-oiir Ijusiriuss — I'c.ip tlioir IVuita and ailvantuKos ;
Ifiil il' tlioy should rai.^o prejudice ai^ain>i you, in linio ol'olection, so much tlio worse Coi'
you.
This is what reason and connnoii sense Icacdi, am
practice shows.
what a single glance at electoral
All sorts of influences are exerted and any siiotikor or scriljlilcr can put them in
motion. Nonelliink of complainini,'.
' ''* liiil when (he priest is in (juostion it is dill'orent. Has he u rii^lit to influence
ojjininn liy sermons or othcrwi.so? Some say ho has, others say he has not. Wl-.y not?
Is the pi'iest a pariah? Because he is a priest is ho deprived '<\' civil and political rights?
Law and Justice answer no. Jlas ho less interest in tiio ])rosperily, I he progress, and
aggi-andisemerii ,inl hai)|iine>s of Ids country ? Certainlv not, unless we maintain, with
certain IVeethinkers of liuroiie that llie priest seeks the degradation atnl misfortune ol the
world.
Is he less enlighten jl hocauso ho is a prii'--l, less capable of judging the political
ipicstions iMid the merits of the candidates? Wo wr)uld not venture to seriously entertain
such an idea. Tlie ))riest has made more cumpleto studies than most of those who speak
7S(I at church doors tluniig elections. Why slioiil ii we wish to silence him when he sjieaks of
certain jioliiical principles, or of cei'tain <|uosiions whicli appertain more or less to leligion ?
Is it because his words have imoim' aiillMirity ? It would be more than strange, as it would
bo asserting that those only whose words have no authority Inive the I'ight to speak.
.Must the priest then never speak of polinics but only of roligioti ? In s\ic!i caso it
would be nocc<sin'y : 1st. That the priest be not a citizen. 2nd. Tliaf politics be not
connected wills religion. ^Vell as the contrary exists, the priest is a citizen, and ])olities
are necessarily in some way connected with religion. The very nature of things require
that religious and civil society bo united; and even in countries where tho separation of
Church and State is a part of their constitution it does not o.xist, and cannot in reality
yOO exist. This theory is alisur! and impraiMicable, and it would bo unjust and impious to
-sxpcl the citizen ])riost from tho political domain.
lalioii
After these preliminary remarks 1 enter into tho judicial examination of our logis-
11. The text of tho law invoked bv the Petitioners is as follow>
"!>■"). Kverv pcson who, diiv.'tlyor indiroctlj', l)y himself or Ijy any'otlier person on
his behall, makes 11^ ot, >" threat ns to make use of any force, violence or rostrainl, or
i iflicts, or Ihroatens tno iutii'iion i>y himself, or by or thrciugh any other [)erson, of' any
i ijuiw, damage, harm oi io i, or in any m.inncr p.raetisos intimidation up.on or against any
I),-rson, in order to induce or compel such per.son to vote or I'cfruin from voting, or on
,S00 '^■'*^'"""' "' ''"'^''' P'-''''^"" ''■'^''".'^ ^''*'*^"' "•' ''otrainod from voting at an^' election, or who by
alKliiciion, duress or any fraudulent device or contrivance, impeles, ])rovents or other-
wise interferes with the free exercise of the franchise of an}' voter, or tliereb}" compel-,
induces or prevails upon any voter to give or refrain f'ron> giving his veto ut any election,
shall ho deemed to have committed theofl'once of undue influence."
After this (luotaiiuji 1 may be pertnilteJ to put this i^uestion ; Ifthollowse of
i'i'
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Commons anil tlic Scnnto when iiil'iptiti^' IImk law Imil uiulor9ti>o(l tliat it loiild lio no iiiter-
protod as toliinii and restrain llic lilici'ty of ccclosiastirnl iircacliini;, wlmtlior ('alholii' or
I'nilfsiaiii, it' tlit'V liail Mipposod that this law would prohuhly ijivo lo civil IrilMiiials the
;i;,dit to draw lines anil boimduries to (Miristlun pi-oachin;;, do you think tlioj- would liavo
810 adopted it without i)ppo-.itlon ? Is it liUely that no one in these Houses would have pro-
posed an anieiidinent .'
I am eonvineed that a siron;,' opposition would have arisen on this suhjeet, and 1
hnvoo'. > reason to think that the rnenihers did not foresee the immense .scope that
would l,c ::.ven to their laws.
'I'hey aro not in the liahit of let;ishiliMi; on Iho Irnnfiression of the laws and leneh-
in^s 111' the ('liurches. and on the penalties eonseipient on these lransi;ressions. It is there-
fore not prohahh^ that they would liavo wished to prevent the elerj^y from ihMdarin^ certain
liuniiin actions sins, either sli>^ht or >;ravo. The thin;^s of the other world do not form the
ordinary sulijects of their deliherations, and I do not thiid< that they intended to determine
820 whcii llieelcri,'y could not speak of them. In a word when I read attentively he terms
of the Statute 1 see notliinj^ which indicates that our lei;is|;itors wished to infringe on
Hpirillial order. On the contrary the means of uiirlue influence that the l.iw prosci'ihes
and which are called ••force, violence, r((-.traiiil. lesion, il!ini:ii;e, jtrejudice, lo>s, ahduction,
stialaicem and artifice," show that it did not '^o out of the temporal order. The followini;
words of the law will ho quoted in opposition to my o]iinion: "Or in any manner jir'au-
tices intimidation ; ' for it is hy this that the leijislaloi's have, it i> .laid, intended to reach
spiritual intimidation.
These are i;enerul terms, I know, and extend, no douht to .ill unforeseen cases (d'
temporal inlimid:iiion. Hut the characer and the reach ofa law. the expressions of which
SoO '"■*■' indefinite, is drawn from its clear and definite moaning, and all that is 'lefinito in this
law does not jro beyond the strictly temporal order. If our lei^islators had iniemled i^oini;
further, and cnteciuf; into the spii'ilual domain, they could e:i.-ily have added to the word
'■intimidation" lho>e of " spiritual and temporal."
It must he suppos('d ihey would even have fjono further and mentioned the acts
which Would constitute "spiritual intimidation," as they did those which constitute " tem-
p)ral intinii.lalion ." Tlie >uhjccl hein;; much more impoi'tant rei|iiii'ed more explatialion.
Threats of hell, or of [)urj;.itory, the retusal of the sjicrinnents, or of chi'lstian linr'ial,
jiromises of eternal rewards, Vc, iVc, would have been mentioned as so many iicts of undue
inlliience. The mere mention of these acts makes one smile, and what would appear
(S40 '•'"J<I'''''''J "" 'I'c l>ait of a Ici^ishitor, would it not be still more so on my pai't, when the
law says nothing of it? The m .re I study ibis law, the more its spirit seems contiary to
the ai)plication of it to spiritual matters.
I am aware that the Hni,;lish precedents will be brouuhl u|) aijainst me, but I will
reply to this objection later, when 1 come to the o.\'ainin;ition of those precedents. For the
present, it is sulHcient for mo to remark that the relations between the civil and reliijious
bodies are not the same in Canada and in Kn^land. In the Mother Country the t'hurch
ami the State form as it wore, but ono and the same body. The head of the State is also
the hcacl cf the Church, and tho Icf^islature exercises a supremo control oV(M' roliL;ious and
civil matters. Several tribunals are named by the State, and receive from it both a spiritual
850 and tempunil jurisdiclioti ; su thai they aro the guartliatis and intufprctcrs of llic doetrinoa
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of the <>Htiilili»lu!.l clnirt'li. Whoii tlio Knglisli |)ai'liuinont lo^jirtlnloj* in genural Ioiiiih, it is
tliiirclWrc, not Miiiiiri.siiij^ that llii> ('oiii-tH apply iis laws to Hpirilnai inaltors, as wdi as t"
IhoNO oj It'tiipoi'al ofdor.
Iliil it up|)CurH to ijiu that, oui I'
ciiTiih K-eil. 1 1 is t mo thai f, us u i
Nidli I'roin ilui- Majosty, hat Iho hoail ol
C'hui'i'h. uti'l it c.iiiiiiit ^ivu UK- aiiv anih
Mini oai' I'uiirt.s ai .- not at all Miinilai-ly
iiu! Ivii>;lish .Iui|>;l's, liavo iti'-oivuii my coinmiH-
State in Can, I'iM is mil tl\ohua'l tiiu Caliioliu
V III jiii'ituul iiiutii'i's ivcr my ( uurch.
I will lie askuil, no iloiilil, II'diii' Coiistitiiiioii is not Kiiiiii.ii' to I j of Kli^hmii. I
aiiswof, it is not, in what concerns the relations of the ('alholic Chiifch with iho Siaio ; lor
SCiO 111 tlii-* iiiautir, cuir iioatii's hiiiI ivlation-, with tho m . Iior I'oiiiitry liavo ciiisO'l iinpoiManI
i.'liaiif{L>s in our ''oiistituLinii.
While ;,'raiitin^ i ilii' Catholic roli;;ion a ininp oto lilmrty in lli!> ('oiniiry, in f,'i'aiit-
iiij; hy our ('oiitttiluli -ii lliu assnrutwo of Iho ••IVeo oxorciso of iho liomaii Catholic ruli^ion,"
il iw nocossaril^- iluprivcil our purliainiMit oC the power to siippross or iMiiharrass iiM lilu'rty.
Wo have not |ii>ro, as in Kiif,'l;i"i|. no I liihlishcl Church, ainl if wo fully rcco;;iii/.c tho
temporal supromac}' of Her ' wo arc exempt, hy our treaties, from her spiritual
su|iremac3'.
Tho lomai'Ualilo j^oixi si .mil eiili>;litoiioil reason of the I'^n^lish (iovernnioiit liavo
finally, altor some rosistuiico, r. > iii^iiizoil this stato of thing's in our country ; ami mil later
,S7() than l"^lt, wiien lOiitjIamI was still ileciiloii on iiKUiitaiiiiii;^ her siipromacy in ecclesiastic-. 1
all'airs, Lonl (Jreiivilh'. Ciiloiiial mini-'ter, in -.uhmiltin^ to the < rovernmenl of Caniula his
plan of Coiistilulioii in 171M. wrote him thus ;
••Tho ohjocl of this Act is to assimilaie tho (-'onslilii'iou of lliis I'rovinco lo th it of
(iroal Miitaiii in ho far as the ililt'ereiico which exists on ••iccoiiiit o( the cii-iom-' of the
lioople aiiil tho situation of tho l\-oviiirii will permit. For llial en I il is noco-saiy to hoar
Well in miud tho projinlicos an<i hahils of the Froiich inhaliitaiil> ^vhn coiiipo^e s.i lar^'o a
])roportion of tho population, ami to ilo all thai i.s pos^ililo to ensure lo llio.ii [>;;■ extnisi' of
those ciTil iiiiii ri'lli^ioiis rights ivhtch 'iiwre ptarantrcd to tlum by the Qipitiiiiitiiin of the Pro; nee,
or which have since hoon ijranleil to thuiii in' tiio lihoral ami tiilinhtoiieil spirit of the
S,S(( Kn;,'lish Ciovernnieni,"
.Since that time our constitution ami our jnihlic law were ot'tun moilitiod, hut always
ill favor of rolitcious liliorty. If I am not mistaken, new {,'iiariinlcos wero f,'lveii to ihii'
liliorty wlieii Coiitbileralioii was esta li>li(v|, for iiniler this new regime tho laws which
(lotiiio the relations hetwooii ('iiiirch ami .Stato, as t(j tlie I'rovinco of (^uehoc, aro under the
control of tho Local Legislature.
From wliJit precede^, I have tho rij^hl to conclude, 1st: That tho same text of law,
tho tonus of wli -h aro n ii explicit, ami which refers to the rolalions of CIr rcli and Slate,
may receive an applicuiioii in Knglaiid wh'idi would not lio :idm-.ssilile hero '2ml: That
it is (•ontrary to the spirit ol' the constitution lo suppo.so that our Parliament intended
s^iwi raisin)^ harriers, i lixiiif^ limits to the lihortj- of christian preachinfi, when its lawshotray
no intention of iniorferiiig in the>c matters. For roliKioUM preachini^ is ono of the most
important jiarts of relij^ion; if it is not free, if judi^os m;iy docido that in cortnin casos it
is liable lo fine anJ imprisonment, tho relif^ious lihorly f^uarantood by our constitution is
but a dead loiter.
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Let us luUl further, timt to crciite a new eule^'ory of misilomeiinors such i.s thnso
which are sought to he prosccuteil in this suit, it would rciiuire a siiecial h'yishition, '.hat I
cannot discover in the general and vague torms of tiie law above (luoted.
III.
1 thinii 1 liave established that our constitution, and our state of society are opposed
1)1)1) to the api)iication the ))eliiioners would make of our electoral law. 1 will now show that
if the legislator had really purposed giving to this law the meaning attributed to it it would
be lx)th arbitrary and absurd. To demonstrate this, let us study the facts.
What is reproached against the accused priests, is having represented the liberal
party as dangerous to religion, and an enemy to the Catholic Hierarchy, having compared
it to the French liberal party, and having allirmed it would bo a sin (or electors to vote
for this party.
Such is the accu,sation submitted to mo, and on which I am wished to pronounce.
This is evidently asking an impossibility of the Court.
Should 1 condemn and denounce such words from :; Priest without knowing whether
1)10 they arc true or lalse? This would be arbitrary and tyrannical with regard to the clergy,
and to the religion of which bo is the niini>ter. It would be denying to this religion the
right of protecting itself.
Let us suppose that a free-thinker (of whom there are so many in France) presents
himself for the sullVages of a Catholic county, will it be said that the clu-gy have not the
right of ojjposing bis candiilalure, to make known the dire effects of (oiHempt of religion,
ami to tell his congregation thai it would be a sin to vote for this man? If he has not
this right, let us proclaim l.mdly, and inscribe on our constiiution, that i.iipicty is free,
but that religion is not; lor we cannot call free, a religion which cannot defend itself, for
to oppose free-thiiddng is nothing else than seltdefence.
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Of course 1 do not mean to compai 'Ir. Tremblay to a free-thiid<cr. [ merely
make an h]iotliesis, to show that there arc umstances where I'eason, and natural law
make it a duty for the clergy to enter into the jiolitical arena.
Leil>nitz, one of the greatest of protestant geniuses, foreseeing in the XVIllh cen-
tury, the disastrous effects that false doctrines would cause later, said: "We should take
precautions against false doctrines which iuHuence morals and the practice of piety, al-
though wo should not attribute Ihem lo people, without good reason. If justice requires
that persons be spared, (.iety demands to e.tpose, in the proper i)lace, the pernicious effects
of their dogmas when hurtful.''
J 11 these remarks Leibnitz of course di.l not refer to the clergy; ho addressed
iy^H them in all christians, and the duly he indicate<i was, to spare persons, but
to condemn and denounce "false doctrines." Need 1 say that this, the duty ot
every christian, is in an especial manner that of the clergy, who are the advanced guar.l
in war, and tlio watchf'J she herd in peace? Need I say that for the clergy, this duty is
the height and dignity of their mission, which they^iold from Christ himself.
It was in the fulHlment of this mission that all the Bishops of the Province of Quebec
addressed a pastoral letter to their flocks strongly condemning Catholic liberalism, which
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hna Iioen ho ot'ten mcntioneil in tlii'* trial, iiml ciuiinini; for the clorgy free iiitorveiiUoii in
politico.
It was also to liiltill tliin mission that the Cuivs of tiio County of Charlevoix while
'.(•40 oxplaininy ami commontin;,' on the i)asioial letter of the Bishops dcnomieed holore the
cleiiors this eondoinnoil liberalism, and imposed it as a duly on the eleetors to refuse their
support to any eandi<lale inihiied wiih this doetrine.
Did they really iidrinf,'e on the politieal domain?
!^id they give their adviee on the questions dehateu on the hustin;:;s ! Did thoy ^ivu
their oj.inion on the personal merits of the two candidates? Did thoy attack the chaiaet.T
or the reputation of the candidate who complains ot tnem ? Did ihey take part in t'';
public meetings, the organization for the contest, iti the canvass? No they did nothin:,' of
the kind. Several read the pastoral letter wiihont any comment. CHhors merely delined
Catholic liberalism. Some commented more at length on the i)asti)rul letter ot the liishops,
'.150 speaking strongly against lil)eralism and liboruls, comi)aring Canadian liberalism and
liberals with European lil.erali.sm, p(<inting out the dreadlul consequences produced by this
error on soul and on !-:ociety, and making the electors understand that they were in con-
science bound to repel liberalism and liberals by their voles. Well, where is the otlcnce
and how can I decide on it? Is this Cou.-t instituted to decide on the religious merits of
political i>arlies and on the orthodoxy of theii' piinciides ? Kvidently not Is it more
eoini)Ctent to declaie lalse and exaggerated ihedoctiinal teaching ot the pastoral letter and
of sei'.. )iis? Still less. Can 1 say that all which a priest says about politics is u
"wrong?' it woidd he contrary to the simide rules of natural law.
There is an argument which is olten invoked against religious inteivention in
((go political allairs, aird this argument is d-awn from those words of Jesus Christ: "My
kingdom is not (dtliis world." This text will he belter understood by contrasting it .vitli
these other grand words of Jesus Christ pronounced immediately afterwards in answer to
Pilate's quesli(U) : " You are then a king?' •' You have said it, 1 am a king, and it is tor
tbi.s 1 am born and that 1 came to the world." The latin te :t is more exjjressive : " Hgo
in hoc natus sum el ad Ikic vein in mundum," and we might translate it thus: "king 1 was
born and to bo king 1 came to the world."
Hut is it really supposed that the Church is of the other world, and that it has nothing
todo with this world ? Are tiiitb and morals not of this world ? Who sliall teach them ?
Is it civil society? No! The Church was esial)lished it, tbi:, worl.|/or this world, and in
1)70 view of the other world. It is a divine and not a human inslilution. It does not derive
its power and rights from man, but from God. ll is in this sen>o il is not ol this
world. Its origin, its constitution, and its purpose are not of this world. But il exists in
this worl'l, and il is this worlJ il should govern. Therefore wherever morals of nations
and individuals are in question, wbeiever interest of .souls is at slake, the Church extends
its domain. Hut in the goveiiimenl ot nations it is clear that there ."ret ings which
belong to Ca'.sar and to him alone. The Church know.-< tlieso things and leaves theh'
administration to the care and to the solicitude of the Sta'e.
If any of the ministors ot the Church do not acknowledge these rights of the State,
and infringe on its domain, the Church will certainly force them to recognize the.-e rights,
')S0 The relations between the two may be expros.sed in the following manner: There should
be a distinction between them, but not a separation, union but not intermeddling.
wntEMMl. i^HMi
iltiiiaiiiiiMHiil
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Potitionorrt will Hiiy what wo complain of in iiiteriiuMlilliii;^. The |iriests accuHud
h'jvo infringed on tlic I'ights of the Stulo, and wo waul llio Coiirl to imt them in Ihoir
])ia('e.
In wlint, if yon i)lousc, have those priests iiifiinf,'ed on the rij^hts of the State? Is
the net of volinji; for a Mornber of Parliament a moral act or not? No one will maintain
it is not. Can the act of votiiif,' he aie nipli^hed in sueh a way as to ho a sin n\oro or les.-
grave? It certainly can. Tho priests have only taught the electors the seriousness of
tlie act, and told them how tliey might sin in the performanco of the act. In this they
i)<)() wore in their domain, in the accomplishment of their pastoral duties, ami in the exercise
of tiieir own jurisdiction. Tiiey did not trespass on thedomain of tho State, since evidently
tho State is not competent and has no mission to teach tlio>e things.
Let us suppose that '"ley erred and that they declared criminal an act which was
not so, it does not folio., it they did not deal with a suhject whicli they had not tho
right to deal with ; that they taught something they had no right to teach, e.\ercised func-
tions that did not helong to their miidstry; in a word it does not follow that they inter-
fered with the domain of the S.ale No, hut in exercising the powers holonging to their
jurisdiction they committed an error that is all.
Well, say again the relitioncrs, let us admit that they did not iidringo on the rights
lOOO of Iho State; the error they commilteil troubled souls, intimidated consciences and conse-
quently voting was not free.
Oh, indeed! souls wore troubled, consciences intimidated by the preaching of the
clerg> and tho pastoral letter of tho bishops, and you require that 1, a layman, should
tranquilize them? You reciuire that I, from this civil Court, should say to Catholics,
— romen her well these words, " to Catholics"—: " Your consciences are troubled because
your bishops and ^our priests have told you that j-rtu would sin in voting for a Catholic
liberal ; bo comforted, they have deceivo<l you, liberalism is not an error, and to vote for a
liberal is not a sin !"
But do you not consider that to spoiik and act in this manner, would bo not or _, an
1010 infringement on tho ecclesiastical domain, but also absurd and ridiculous? Do you not
tliinli that Catholics to whom a court would hold such language, would turn it into ridicule,
and with lea.son.
Lot us elucidate this argument, and irive to our idea another development, let us
employ analogy, which, though not porfecl, will be understood by legists.
There are several inferior couits in this country, from whoso judgments there is no
appeal. If coinplaints are made to me of their decisions, [ have but to eiiquire if they have
e.xceeded their jurisdiction or not, il they have. I have but to reverse their judgment, if
they have not, even if they had judged wrongly, have erred, or committed an injustice, 1
declare myself powerless to remedy it, I have not authority to intervene, and their
1020 decisions remain in force.
I believe that with regard to tho acts of tho clergy, 1 should act in tho same manner.
If those acts ortect the validity of a contract Ijotween two pei>ons, but without the priest
himself being a party in the case (mis en cause) I mu>t ascertain if these acts have been per-
formed by the priest in the exercise of his sacerdotal jurisdiction, if thoy arc spiritual, or
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it'll i« tliotloctrino |H'fiulieil l>y liiiu tliut is rofoiToJ to ino. ll'tliin lie tlio ca^c, I cannot
iiiti'iMcic, I am iiieoin|)oli'nl to pronoiinco on liioir merits, oven if they liaii iiioilnctil civil
mix! tciii|)onil cllecls. II not 1 can consMor tiicm, ileclarc llicru illo#ii, ami annul llio con
tiacts resulting' from tiicm.
Therefore, to ujiply this rule to tlio pr«soiil trial, let lis suppose tliat a priest, after
l()!i() havinj,' heen iiroved an a^enl ol tlie respondents hail intimidated his servants or his
(lehlors I y threatenin;; the lirst ..itii dismissal and the latter with a proseculion, if they
did not vole for the <lefendanl. I would iiniiiedialcly annul the eleclion hecauso lli«so are
strictly temporal acts of the piiesl, which 1 wouM he certainly coin|ieleiit to jiid^'o.
But ins'ead of this 1 am asked to jiidi;e of ;i d Htrine i)icachcd in the jmlpjl, or ofa
theolof,'ical opinion c.\prcsKod out of the piilpil. .My answer is; Yon tlo not address your-
self to a cempctent trilmnal (/(»■ /•()/((/*"('■»«)• This i)riest nmy have erred, hiu he di I not,
go heyond his jinisdiclion, and 1 cJinnol interfere. Hriiitcyour eoinplainl hefoi'e his compe-
tent ju(lj,'e, who is the hishop. The petitioners .itlirmeil thai they did not deny to the
])riest his rinlil of cili/cnship. lnil thai he nuisl not enjoy greater privilege's than other
1040 t'i'''-'-'"^' hecansc all twn crpial heiore the law.
The terror which the word " i)rivile;,'e " seems to inspiie has no jusl cause, for there
is no well orf^auizcd society without |)rivilef,'es. If ihoro is a false and doslriielive princii)le
in socictv, it is that of enuality. Ivpiality hefore (Jod which would suppre<s any medium
between (Jod and man. as il .Icsiist 'hrisl had not conferred on the Church, antl on its ministers,
powers which do not hclong lo mere laymen. Mul in reality 1 <lo not claim any |)rivilej,'e
for the I'riesl, I only a]>ply to him common law. I can no irore condemn his discour.ses
than I can tho.su ofa layman, and if I coinjiared them with the political haraiif^iies made at
church doors during,' an election, they wouM certainly lie found lc» extravagant.
Puhlie sjeakers generally accuse the opiiosito jiarty of hcing composed of corrupt
KlKi) men, of pliindereis, rohhers, spoliators of the puhlie treasury, of hringing tiie country into
hankruptcv, of having principles hostile to national prosperity and to religion, and usually
terminate hy saying "it would he a crime, or at least exceedingly wrong, to vole for sinh
a party, because if this party should suoeel, the people wmild lie weighed down wiih t.'ixes
and agriculture and industry would he ruined by mil idminisiralioii." .Such a ili.M'oiirsc is
eertai"ily ofa nature to intluence the electors, and in making such speei lies I suppose the
intention is lo intluence them. .Some electors would he even more iiiHiienced thiough fc;ir
of bankiupley and ruin than by that of committing sin. Can I, however, declare that the
words constitute undue intluence? ccrlaiiily not. In the hitter case as in that ol .sermons
I w<uiKI he under the i-iposMbiliiy of deciding if the charge was true or lalso, and I should at
lOGO ill! events place it among those free opinions which may be attirmed. This is the only
reasonable solution in the cuso of accusations brought by the priest against the Liberal
party. Not having the n > n to Judge of their weight, I say that they are opinions true
or fal.sc, but free, which 1 can ot prevent from being expressed. If they arc true the priest
was riglit in expressing them ; if they are false he erred or he led other- into errors, and ho is
in the same position as the public- speaker to whom 1 have , just alluded.
The liberty of discussion is the proper remedy to the- abuses. The accused should
answer ihe accusations, should endeavour to prove that they are unfounded and are calum.
nics. If the eleeti rs are not convinced it is unfortunate for him, as it is always an evil
that calumny should bo spread and credited. J5ut the evil would bo still great if wo could
1070 not express our opinions on political parties, .nnd. on the religious and social tendencies.
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It in well also ti. iciiiMiU in Hiis pivM'tit niso, tliiii I'lvh time tlio prio.-ts npoUo <f
liliiTiili«m in llu'iinlpil, Mr. 'l"iviuMiiyV WnwU uii.liir^i(in,| timt tlu-y woro M|K-iikin;,' iif;iilnst
tiii'iriiuiili.lule, and 1 ivcoIIimI that uno of tin'ni wlioii ijiio-tion. d on wlial lio iimiI.thIo.mI l.y
lilioriilistn an. I lihcnils, ic|iliiMl ; '• lilnn'aliHin is tlio ca Ji.late ami wo are lliu liljorai.-..''
Anc.ll.or wilni'>s nanioil lloiiri (iirani, maK.'s liis euro say, lliat •• lil unilisin is ii man wlio
gli.loil lilic a ,-.■1 ponl." Was tiicir lanili.imo u lil'Oial in tlio sonso I'on.loMUiod by Hid I'loi'Ky 'f
[ am not in uiM»ilinn K. .loci.lf tliis i|iuvslii.ii. liul wliai i> .'oriain is ilial liis tVion.ls call,..!
him the lihoial camlidulo, anil that this tiili- may navo injiin-a him, in i.'ailinj,' irm)|,I.. to
iiiMlorstand timl ho was ilusif.rniitui| whon |iufliaiis ii was iiul iiilondtM. Tlio priosl coiilil not
1()S(» l"i- this mismi alislain In.ni (kMio'inciiij,' lihorali-iii, wIumi that .liiiy was inii.os.-.l ii|,<m him
hy his fi'clo-iastiial ^uporiiii's.
A political jiarly is five t.. change iis namo ; hut the chT^'y is not tiwnol to (lt'si,;nato
hy tiioir inio iiamo the cirors tlioy condomn, and to lull " IJu.ldhism" what llio l'iiiii<-h
falls •' lihonilisiii."
Olio of tho mf)sl culobratod I'.ishops of Franco at tliu prosunl day, liishop I'io, said
Willi fospoct to iMiilt liavin-' hocii found with one of his pastoral letters, hy tho rovolutioii-
ary despot who then rei;j;ned in llial coanlry : Soon wc will have to suppress the paj;es of
Script iii\! which speaU of Scribes and Pharisees.
If 1 maintained the demands of the Petitioners in this case 1 think I would bo
mill) olili^ed t(.su|ipie>s all the coudemnalioi.s of liberali-m and of liberals which are found in
the pastoral loiter.-, in Iho docroo.s of the (,'ouiieils and in the cvanjielical Icl.ers. IVrhaps
tht, Cme should also refrain fr.im citing' tho words of the (iospel : •' faUc Christ and false
propliels,'- when friends of a candidate would go into a parish t.i address the electors in his
behalf"
This cannot ho. Thank (Jod we live in a profoundly reli-ioiis coniilry wliero reli-
gion is free. Andiflammel with the objection that nation- have no soiil to be saved,
andconsequenily havemithingto do with reli^i.m, I an-wer that nations have not one
80ul mily hut milli.ms of souls to be saved, and that the (iospel ought to be the law of
their laws.
I 1111) Tho jircceding .levelopiuenis which I thought neccs-ary have <lrawn me from the
proposition which I expressed at Iho beginning ot this third point, namely ; that by giving
to thelawtheinicrpreiaiion claimed by the IViiii.mers, we w(Hild become arbitrary or
absurd 1 return to this propo-ilion which I ihini.- I have prove.l, ami I conclude that it
would be arbitrarv to interdict tho clergy from any intervention in politics, and it w,.uld
be absur.l to make this Court judge of tho merit of the candidates, and ot political parties,
and ot the orthodo.xy of the doctrines preached Ijy tho iiriesls and by tho bishops.
The I'recedests.
Wlien the petitioners arrogating rights which they do not possess, and attributing
to me powers which do not spring from my jiirisiliction, decided to submit matters to mo
1,1, .which belong to the ecclesiastical authorit v, ilicy were necessarily obliged to rely upon
precedents rather than law. A decision of .ludgo Koogli, annulling tho Gidway election
in Jreland for tho cause of undue clerical iiilluence, seemed to them i.ar'.icularly conclusive,
and it is upon his authority that they relied, at the same time invoking the character ot
that judge a.s a Catholic. Vollairo has said that with ten lines of any man ho could cause
.^.jmsia
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i i
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him t(i lio liiiii;,'. Tliii* it I'lio ciltlio iiiiimiii'iMililo i'Xii:;>{i'rntiiiii»
< oiniuitoil Itv Voltairo, who
il(nilitlo>s wiis til inking' III tlm liniciiCihci^c ul' jiiiowi
wiiil<M (iir wliith liiMluMorvcilu nipo. It
iwcurtaiii Ihul 11 jiicl;,'iiiuiil vvho^i) i'Oii«>iiit (ini'/ijn) covof lllly lull" pii^^'^
to nhow tl.o I'haim tor of llio iniiii who |>ioiioiiii(i"
iii;,'lil 1(1 liOMUllliMclit
I it. I nmII, ilitTuroii', vfiiliiii' to Kiiy iliut
thy jiiilu inorit reiuU-roil in ilm t Jul wiiy rurio, ivvimli in llio hoiionililo .1 ihIku u «mit loiiuiiciiy ,
llli(|iii'i'"l hy 11 jiioili^noiii nifiiKiry, anil hy vario.l hiil Nii|.nill.ial kiiowlo.l,u'o. H" l"iw read
many liook^ Iml ihoro aiipuarH to in- ilisoniiT in his iMMi.lilioii, iumI I ii..wli.io in.'.'i in
his work wilh liioso linmil opinions ati>i coinpivlicnsivo vii-ws whi.h ilunoi.' Ilii; M(hi>liir ami
X\w thiiikor. Il would Hianoly In- poxniliiu to fniimLTiilo nil I In- /locw-i/Vi (/(•;•-•«
his eni'yi'lopoilic jiiil;:;nirnt alKminls. Kvim)
ami viXi'vy person is mii
— wilh whit'li
Ihii- , all'onis lijin a llioiiu! tor comnu'iiliirios.
altor
ie the Mlhioct of a hioj,'riipliical iioliio. We lii'l piissiiiK' ""
nnoihor liel'orc our yyo« hi« jiurson
ami his new IriiMiils, lliiil ol tin' county o
wllirli that county hiis cloctcd, llic iiilillitios whic
larlios to whicl
lal ami classical rominisconcos, tlin history of his oM ami
if (Jiilwiiy for half a cfiitiiry, of tin- rcproHontiiiivcM
h ilistiii^iiishcil them, ami iho political
I
11 -JO villat,'i', tor sill
h they hoh.nj,'oil. Wlion hu iiamus a villau'c. he says: '■Thai licaiiiiMMis
•h it wii> aiHl such it still is; Cliflcn, once the ploii.l heritiii,'.' of the .Martins
ui
III the (''Aicys.'
If he iclcis to :i ni!wspii|ier article, ho to
Us us iihoiil llic had p:ip r on which il was
wrillon, of tiio " sad day " wiiich ho passed iii readii,;,' it, and ho adds; >■ lie is not answer-
ahlc for the hiidiiessof ihomaierialupon which his paper is priiileil. I helievo thai wo liavo
lost all the niamifuclories of pipor in this pari of the world '1 here usee
I to ll<
|iap(
manii
faclorv ill tiiilwiiy ; 1 hope il has not entirely dlsappeare(
I. Hilt he is not answer-
bio for ihiU. The DiiIjIIii or Iho Manchester makers iiiihI he lieM accouiiliihlo."
These prclimii'Ury ohservalioim are necessary, in order to show Iho kind of man
whose opinion has lieon so otton invoke I ,n this case, and to eiiaMe j.coplo to appreciate
■■••■■ rs -.peciallv rely. I will
1 140 tho ^^eiietal characlor
if tho '• precedoni " upon which tho peliliom'
now outer upon an exaiuinalion o
f lliis cele'iralcd lialway c.se, and 1 will commence
iiuccii el stalomeiil af the fads, such
myself j,nianinleeiiii; tin
h as .111 Il'o Kooirh himself has related tlioin, without
il appears that Caplaiii .Nolan, tho elei
1S72.
ted had lieen a cundidale in tho preceding' eleciion,
liie-s. The (iaiway election l"ok place in Koliriiary
mid had relired heloie the niHuina
illation at the -.oJHitalion o
I some inlluenlial Irieiids, anion;
whom was the Arcliliisliop of Tuani, witli the promi>o on tlie pa
friends, to siippiut him in llie foliowinif election.
Tuam wrote to Captain Treiic
lart of tl
ch, who had asked him lor an
intliiciilial
Dii .lulv 'Ji!, IS7I, the Aiclilii>li(ip of
interview on the sitlijei t of his
ididaliire, and referred him in aiiswo
r, to it niiiiilier of llio /•'
.< Jirtniiil I taiiiiiii;
iir,() a leiur liniii the Archliishoi
In this letter tho Archliisliop meiilioiis the ciii;a;;enicnt
eiileroil into on Hie precodiii;,' election
to •' fi;ive his vote at
to supporL Captain Noljin, and says ihat he cannot
ireak
us promise
il inilii
to I'iiiJtain
.\olaii. lie a>lil.> Hint tho
lallor, hy his condi
let, has iic(|uiroil new
titles to the aid of the leiiai
it class, and to th
eiimi
lyof the landlords. Tlii> loiter, tirst published in Iho rn'^mu
ureal circulation, was nflorw:
form of a circular, and six ihousa
irds reiirodiice
'n Joiii-iKil, which had a
liice'd in the Ti'nm Xews, then il was printed in tiie
there wi
Mcll
d copies were
re hut d,.")!!!) eleclols in the eli
ecloral divi>ioii.
llio a
was i)roseii
lid sixteen or sovontoen j)
I at the dinner and his hoallh was
■iesls met at the Hev
di irilaited among the electors, tl;(.ugh
On the (ith August, Archhisliop
.Mr. .McGoo's; Captain Nolan
ilruiik. Tlio 27lh .Sepieinhcr, a incelit
of
Deanery of Tuam took place, presided over by the Arehhislioi., and rosolu-
favorable to the candidature ol Captain Nolan wore
tions
unanimously adopted. They
2S
are too loi,.- lo lif ivpro, lured : It sullicos to >,iy iIk.1 thoy set out >tro..-ly tlic rhums of
Ciiptuiii Nolan to tho siillVa-os oC tlio tLMiiiii: cla^s, on accounl of tlio protui-lioii lio liad ac-
tlu'in auainsl llio laiidlonls. Those
(.'((I'd 01 1
rooliiiions
wi'Po siiiiio ' by t\ven<y-cif,'lit
o.doMasli.-s, of wl.oin one shorlly after l.e.ann l!i>l.o|, of Clonfert. The (III. of Noven>l,er
iIk> .lei-y of lvilmacduai,'li met, under tl.o i.re>ideney of tlie Hisl,..]) of <:i>l«'!'V, and
unannni:
„„nslviidoi)ted a resolution in favor of Captain Xolan ; and on the 17ih of Novenilie.
the piiesis'of the diocese of (Jalway, presided over hy the same lM>hop. unanunously
aece.,ledt'ai)lain Nolan's eandidalure. Cjues .,f the reM.lntions cf the united du.cese ot
1170 Kil.na.-dua-h and Kilfenora, and of the dioeese ol (iaUvay were eonunutdeated to Nolan
l,y the Kev. Father l)„oley. Thousmds of eireulars eontainin.n- the resolutions were then
printed and distrilmteil anioni; the eleetors.
Sueh were the preparatory aeln of the eler,-y in fnvor of Nohin in the (ialway
election Ul. to that dale (Itith November) the l.iy eleetors had taken no part m the
oleetion and yet hefore that date Seba>tia.i Nolan, hrother of the candidate, and h,s most
active a-ent. wrote the following uords: '•That his hrother now ha,l all the lushops ; that
Ur Mellale the Archl.ishop) wouhl lu-npo>e him; that he had two of the hest anentn in
every i.ni.h thepMri>h priot and his curate ; that the hishops an.l priests would speaU a
low Sundavs helore the eleclh.n t,. theirflocUs, an.l that the people would all vole whatever
1 1S(» wav the hishops a.td lu^iesl. told them; that they would have mohs here and mohs there;
,|,a", it would he ht.rd work a^rainst that; linally, that hy those means hi. hrother was
..rtainof one thousand .najority." Then the o,-ani/.ation was extended to other dioceses
„„, „„ ,|,,,;ih Dccemhera meetin- of the priests of four dioceses was h..ll -to concert
„K-.suves for common and united action. As tho election i,p,u-oachcd. meelu,us hccame
,„„,, n,,ou..n-, and the action .,f the cle.-y was extended. O.i the :nst December there was
a meetin ' at (Ialway, presided over hy the bishop ot ihat town. There were meettiif^s at Dun-
. ,„.e nlTuam.and at (Wu'l, and at the hitter a priest said: "cnrsed he the saves who
nave'sohl their faith and their country." Jiesolutions were ,.assed declaring •■ that it was
le duty of Catholics to vote for Nolan; that every Cittholic support,... Capt. 'i rend,
, ,.,0 t. a tuiitor and a ..ei.e.ade." I will pass over in silence the abu.e o, . 'apta.n Trc.ch an
'^ his chief supporte-'s. The.e we.. mee'in«s at lleadfor,. Mount Hellew, Lou.h..ca, Hal-
li
at
have
:;';H'S3:d ;;;;;;:;:';:::;; v.e .r ,he can„.date of ti. n Then .......
.etitifis wei^e si.rcMd abroad. Finally the or,^ai,i.ation was «ueh that behaslian
1200
iaasloe P, r um.ni, .Milllown, and Newi.'idge. Captt.in Nolan was everywhe.-e present,
',. eate^. p.; of the speeches we.-e by priests. At Milltowi. one o. them sa,d >' U e
'vJi^.neral in-chief the Aivldushop of Tuam, t.r ^c.,e..als the Bishops o. (.alway a.id
h.nh.rt.'^oi ptains a..d ottice.., the p.'iests of the ...ir dioceses vcu.y '-.;,;;■■;-;
sition.and the eleclo.s conju.'ed in the name of their relif..on,
Let us note a few of the words of certain priests:—
-That Captain Nolan was'the choice and wish of tho hishops a.ul priests; that no
,„od Ca^ohc would vo.e t.r (Captain Trench ; that those who did ho wei-o wolves in sheep s
dothing; that they should not be re-'ognized by U'cir .dlow Catholics.
29
'Tliiit ;my Catholic w
lio would vole Cor C'aiitiiiii Trencli would have iho tiii';c'r ol'
ilod at him; ihtit tlic jjoople wore ir
scorn [ion
121(1 he consiilurcd worliiy to ass
)l to associalo with iiini; that ho should not
ate with his tl'llow Catholics.'
■•That any per-
houso duriui; his life."
who voted lor ('apt;
That all were hound to vote for Captain
Trench he would not say mass lor i
Xoiaii as it wa- a nialtor of relijiioii
n his
and
that evoii if tlioy had i)reviously p
U'omisci
I iheir landlords. I hoy were hound to hreak their
jroiniso am
I vole for him.
That he would take them to (Jalway, am
1 anv of thoin who did not actually vote
for Captai
Nolan would he inarkei
d a.s hiaek sheep, rotten hranches.
md traitors to thoir
eounirv.
That the landlords were tyrants, and that whoever v
)ted forCai)tain Trench w
ou
Id
l'22(l '"-' l'^"'^'^'' "1"'" '"^ actiiifi CO!
ilrary to the lailh and as renegade
That it was a nia
That any one who woul
Iter of reliiiion to vote for Captai
n Nolan.
d vole for Ti'ench would ^o down to their f,'ravos with the
hrand ot Cain upi
them, and tlinir chiMren after ihein.
for tl
If the ajients ot
have horse
Trench come amonj; you hunt them from you
like devils. Better
lose Who
s that their hor>e
that they should hire them
to Trench.
hor>es,shi)uld have the Ic.ns cut from under them than
That he woiil.l hrand them as traitors
for ten .n'cne
rations if they did anything lor Trench.
Anathema won
d he hurled aicainst all who won
Id not do as the cleri,'y saiii
That any reiieua.le Catholic who wo
l-j:l(»
irace to h
is (1
his reli';ion, an.l his country, an
Id not vote for Capl. Nolan wouM ho a dis-
1 that ho would ,i,'o to hell; that there
,vere hlack sheep, nol many
ho would not att^^nd." *
thank tiod! That any cue w
ho would vote for Capt. Troncl
" Any voter for Cn\
that it 't-as no Ioniser n (pio:
il. Tremdi should i)e
iHUl
he shunned as if ho had small-pox or i^'vcv;
luit hetweon hiilh and intidelity.
helwcen the two captains
That thoy am
priest to iiaristi p
1 their children would lie
k
lie ha
mied down
for llireo yonerations from iiarisli
ish priest, as iene,i;acles
11 wou
Manv ol
Id
be a tern
hie act of .scandal and ilisediticatioii to
vote for Trench
her words as exlraoidinary were jirovoi
1 according to Judge Keogh, and, if
1240
wo arc
th
to helieve him, the acts were
worthy of the langu.ige.
He represents the clergy
of
town of I nam as marching in the
si reels
with hanncrs upon wliieli wer
inscrihed the
mottos : " (ialway at
d Clod," "Nolan and (iod.
and as conducting t
he electors to ihejioll
And after having resiimei
the greater part of the jiries
til'
1 the testimony
he conclii
los that t' e archhiBho]), the hishojis, and
employed all means an
1 idl influence.'
to attain their oliject,
,„d that this ohjecl was the •' over
rlhrow of all free wi
)f all civil liherty." I am
men
ev
nod to heliovo that the lonor
ihle judge has exaggc
II ami
lied, hut however that may
idont
that there is no possihlo comparison
hetweon the facts of the Galway election
he, it is
d
those of the present ease.
30
III tho I'ouiit}- (if (iiilway tliu dtiv^y orj^;iiii/A'
i| tliu olcL'ti a im u vai^l .sciilo, for ii
the clfclioii. J^oaving
I'i'.U
Ion;; liiiio liofoiu
c.'il lists, ami iiiU'lj ilio uloclioii
tho roli"ioiH domain, tlicy (lescoiuioil to tlio iioliti-
tlicirowN atlair. Tl.oir program ino-al least at tl.o oom-
nioiicenieiil— v.-as oiitiroly poliiici
hotwccn lamllorils ami Ictiants
1, ami had i-ofor<>iu'o to t
At'toi'diiiiC to .liid,i;o Ki
the land loiiiii'O, and tho n
lation
whiidi thoy had I'ocoiirsc' \wt
i/.ud Lands hcaltt'riii.i; tornir cvorywhoro.
■I' iiothin'' less than •• .spiiitu I," since they co>i
the means of iidlnenee to
, Misted of oiyan-
Umler Hiich ciiTUinslanees it was scairi
V possiiile
lo cai'i'V on tho elei
•lion. Tho
th
panie I'ause
L'leclion
1 l.v the threatening mohs snlH.ed, a.ronlino „, Ihe common law, lo avoid the
liiit it cannot lie sai
id that tho orgaiiizaMon
iind
acts o
f those mohs weio duo to
spiiilnul" intimidation.
The (ialwav election then is not a ]
,rcceilonl of aiuhority in ihi.-- c;
It was an-
I2t;ii
nn
lied
on accoun
lit ol Ihc action o
if tho clergy, I am wol
iatislied
liiit that iictio
ion had a
douhio eharacior
It was rath
lOr "material and jiolitical" than "spiriMia
and it may he
maintaine
d 1 think, that " iindao spiritual iiilliicnco
was not tlic
ho tnic reason for
til
judgment ol Judge K<
inducnco, Imt if ho Inu
lah
;li, lie has en jM"
„t well oxpre:
I not had other reasons than tho sornu
<sed his opinion aga
ins of certain (•»/■«,
nst this
he would
without doulit have taken t
llic troiilile to study llie riucstion, i
nstoiid of going into ccst' sies
Dvor the " incomiiaralilc
language" of Sir
uel liomil.v, and of accepting with.mt ipuv
tion tho opinii
1)1' .lU'
Fili'/'-eralil, and sucti a study won
Id have convinced him i
if his
incompotoncy in judging o
self consistent ho cites the
|- thedoctrinal to:iching of iheidergy
Ii
or to provo hini-
■•meiit which
1,0 had (•enderod provi.msly in the Drogheda
127(»
declared that " the undue (derica
iiinuenco " proven in a
particular case,
exorcised upon an eU
iclor was
• of the reasons
for w
hich he annulled the Drogli
o'.eclion
Hut on rehu'riiij
■ to tl
10 reiii)!
that the '■ un
due intlaeiice" jirovon ii
•t of this Drogheda election,
that case was certainly
I
verified the fact
elerical," Imt not, spiritim
Tho quo
stioii there is coneornin;
ill, and emploved insult, tlire
; certain nuvn
lis and violei
hers of the clergy wl
led an elector to the
iico to make hini
vole for their cai
didali
Neither can this prei
lout he called up hy the iielitioiiors.
Now, there is not in all the
known precedents anolhe
■1- elcc
■ti.iii which has heen annul
■d either in
KiiLilanil or Canada
on accoun
I ■>!;;() eal influence in the
the spiritual intiini
I of undue inilueiice on the i
Drogheda election
lation was Imt a
rt of the idergy
As I have poiiite.
Hit
ll
10 cli ri-
was not of a sj
liritual nature, an
d in that of (ialway
secomlarv motive
temporal intimidation, produ.
in"", ai''.-ordiiig to .lui
Vj^c Ivt
„f .liilgo Keogh. it was purely
,,.di. a veritable terror, which was
of
the principal cause
There is n
annulled s(dely on accoun
tho invalidation of tho election.
it, then, a sin,:
•ase which m
iiy ho cited in wdii
an election
has hocn
L of sermons dell
vereil liy the clergy.
nut
IJui
What remai
•'itzirera
IS in favor ot the petitioners
Ul. l?ut in the first place Sir
? The opinions
of Sir Samuel RomiUy
up in iiuorprelation ot
verted election, luit wi
f the oloclin-;
law,
iiico it was not ox
uol Romilly's opinion cannot he called
pressed in a ease of a coiitio-
Ih reiiard lo a gift proso
11 ted
12'.)0
The
•v«ea
ikiios
, of mind" of tho
\ to a priest by a widow, wliose agent he
of eontidence" by lier agent,
iilow, and the ' abuse
wer
•c particularly al'Oged as reasons
for the annulling of the coiitr
[Ut
As to
Judiio i-'itz-
geralifs opinion,
loi us observe
that ho had not to
II), ply it, and that tlie Long-
l:l
31
,;„..l ol....ion :-on.n.n.in:, winch l,o ..xp.vsso,! il was ^..-Ur.A null tor '• corrupt fvut-
thtn,M.lv..s ,., support with all their .ui.h. the .hoseu ..uulMato. u.^r. Im /-ti -•
a::.ia.a.hat.hJisnothin,ii:o,ul in this nu..,.in,or,h....lcr«y. < .u tins suh,., he
h^liviTcii Iho t'ollowing wonls:
.. I,. ,he proper exerei^o of hi. intluoueo on electors, the priest .nay counsel advise,
o ,,,. H n I, e' r at 1 poin, out .ho .rue line of ral .lu,y, an.l explan. wl.y o
:l„0 .. Juaato shouM be prel.rLl , >her, 1 n.ay, if he thinUs ,i,, throw ;-^<' - ^ .^
..oi his character into, ho sealo; hut he may not appeal to , o .cars,,. ^' ^' " ^' ;
. .n.ion of those he a.hlrcsses. lie n.us, no, hoM out '-!-.'''7-''^7;' :' ; ^/ . :; ;;',^
" or hereafter.
V 1 ,. soon lu.lire rit/.'erahl seo.ns at first to ae...r,l ,o the iniests g.-eat liherty
,...,::::U'r;;:^;;,;ieti..,.ntheo.ere,.of.hu^
moral duty " w,lhoul tho po^ e o '«'""'''" . ^,„.i , , .„, ,|„t they
h., sins. It is lo Iho word 's... -hat theN seen, U. '' " 3'^,, ,^.,,,^,, J^\ ,,,i„. „ the
would see no '-uuduo iunuence" it. a pr,ost s words, .t ^^^^'^^^^1 voting o^.orwise
e'cors: By voting in such u tnannoryou ';■"" 3;- - -' '^^ ' , ^ ,,. J ,,„,,,. arc
y„u tail thereot; or you cotutuit an t.c .>n ra.^ th^e o ^.^ut ^^ ^^^^_.^^^
al.nost synony.nous with the cr.nt.natod words. Now, 1 ask, .s . l
then iron, the tree teaching of nunals .'
''"'' elect in o,der that the., should '- '';-''"'^^ "^'^ ^. ' , ^^ r, 'l.^ethi-.g t.t his disposal.
o.Ve,.ceshoui.ldcpriv ■ threaten "" '"'I' " ; \,,^ .;,,,. J,,,,U., to certain
Now, the sacran.en.s a., spmtual g ts. d,sp - ^^^^ .,..,a,ne,.ts to an
,„,es laid down tor hin. hy the chun-h. ^ -" ^' ,, ^, . „,„,^ ..,,,., ,„„side.-s hitnsclf
elector on account of his vote . J -; ^^^ ^^ ^ ^'tl J.-timida-ion in that ease. But
eon,po.en.astosp,ntualn,ates, .^sO t at ^^^_^ __^ ^^^^ ^^ ,„.„„er." he neither
when the priest sin.ply says that '^^^'7' '* / ^ .,..„„,, H'ts which are at his. the
aep.-ives, nor threatc.s to '^y^^^; '^-;^;^^.^^ .;:S. he i^ a state of grace or of .in.
p, iest's disposal. He cannot ot ht.nsed ''« ^ 7^^,,;^.,, „,,, ,,« „,,e or false.
, -30 lie expresses then only an opnuon oi tnoral Iheologj ,
But ..either ...dge ..gera.d nor n.^-; -^Sr;,: ';:";;:: Vl!:^. .11
,vill be understood that, further, we have "«' '7 7, ":.,„„ ;, J..u.y or unworthy of
adtninistration of U.e saeratuents .uu o do. h .. M-o. ^^_^ ^^^^ J^ ^^_ ^_^^^^ ^_^ ^^^^^
them. All the ditle.-e..ce wh.eh I ^'7' ' ^ ' ,^^^,,^ ^,,, i,;,,,,, o.^lor, that l)riv.U.on
of refusal of the Hac.-an.e..ts, the.-e .s '^'^'^''J^, ^„„,tn„te " undue influe-.ce ;- while in
t:i:'^:::^'^' :r:^- --«-• °- - ""*"""^ *""^ "'■
offence.
--.*■
1350
82
IfJmljio FitzgernUl hml otviision to monsi.ler his opinion, (iiiotcl aliovo, an.l wore
1340 ho placed fnec to iaco with all thu ditlk'nllios whicii its appii-'ation occasions, I an. not far
fi-oni ijoiiovinjj that ho wouki modify it.
11 In sludyitif,' Iho toxl of tho law wliich ilolliies tho otVcnco callo.l " undi.u inlhi-
onco," I havo pointed oalthat llio relations I.etween Church and State could not ho the
san.o in Canada as in Knijland; that those two societies, which in Kn-land really lorin Imt
one, un.ier one head, are hero perfectly distinct, and under tho control ol two d.tleroni
heads that, in consciiuence, a toxl of law whoro torn.s nro very vu«ue, and ve.y ;,'onoral,
may in EnglMul ho api^lied to the spiritual order, as well as tho ten.poral, wh.le in our
country it could not ho ai.pli^d to the spi.itual ..nlor, except in virtue of an express
provision.
This argument forms a yet stronger answer, when I oppose it to JMiglish jurispru-
donee. It is evident in lad that it is taking a false road to go to Kngland in seanh -d pre-
cedents, as to the relations which should exist hctwecn Church au.l State m our country.
The n.ost remarkahle statesman which Irelan.lhas ever pro.lucod, Burko. said:-
.. There are in nature sources of justice fron. which all laws tlow, like streams ; and m l,ko
.. manner as tho waters take their tinge an.l taste from tf,e d.tleront lands they go ih.ough
.. HO civil laws vary with the origins or governn.ents of tho various countr.es, oven though
" starting from tho same sources."
That which the great man said of laws is specially true regarding juri- prudence It
varies, and slu.uld vary with the constitution, the state of society, morals '- ;«'-; "■'^'^^ '^
chara tor of such people. It is that which caused Dr. Newnu.n .n h.s splend.d wo I , Tie
nre en position o Catholics in England," to say, speaking of Knghsh jurisprudence, .'Let
!:" :li:;isn> l. rec.,gni.ed as a principle of tho ^^''"f ^-^""V'r'r-Vf ,: r;!.:^'"
.. end of tin.e would hut illustrate I'rotestant doctrines, and consohdate I rotesta t m o. cs s
T th ng i quite natural, and English jurisprudence should lead ^- pro^no „.<u to these-
,i ni ! ot Pmtestant doctrines and ihe consolidating of Protestant M.lercsts. It should
ZZ ;ari;:l::iy he so, as regards questions touching upon puhlie rights and rehgu.us
lihorty.
It is evident, then, that all those questions, and particularly in those which hear at
the Constitution.
What hecome after all this, of the opinions of the Hon. Ju,lges ^^^^^^^^^^^^^l^
.„,d how could it he maintained that they should consftute an au hor.tj .n th.s count.y
They, Lmselves, would have spoken otherwise had they hved ,n Canada.
1 1 r The netitioners have, hesides, cited in support of their pretentions the report of
; !f tl iTo e of Commons, in the Bagot election, which report decKlo<l that
^^rr:;:^!;;:^— invoked agaiust U. election heeu proven, tho elect.on would
liavo heen annulled.
1360
1
I
i;v.)u
1400
ss
cUo.1. HeHi.loH, 1 l.avo every reanon to Loliovo that no ono of the auction. "''"'";"'"» '^^
nu"ii.l! cvory ,.o.Ki!,lo euro in tl.o pros.nt niHO, wore before that (;omn..Uce ; «m,1 .'onHO.
.luently it. n.en.horH wore not .•ullo.l upon to .le.i.lo on tho.o .lUCHt.on*.
Finally if this report of u Oomn.itlee .'oul.! ho invoUe.1 u. having coo.iual authority
forrwl U-* orr lof;ic«lly.
i„ „ .IrikinB ■n«....r, .i. ll» «.....to J.- "'f ' «'■ ' ",. ,,,,„|„,|,„„„.,. „,„i„,iiy „,■ ,l,„l
Oli«ml«.- wi.hol «1 «»y |.ri.'.. 1. f i»«inii ""• ' ||,„,,,|^i,i„„; il.o „l.«mic-
r:s:t:::^:r::=: :"9^:~ -
f,on. Hnglan.l the d.cMsion of Jud-o Ko..gh n. Iho t.ahNaj < ase.
, . 1 tl.Mt tl.oro nuHl hnvo been a .loarth of arguments when this
" "'" '"' /"'''"; luWrZt Franause) un.ler a legislation whi-h hears no
prooMlonl is .Mtod n. a ' '"' ' ^ • ', | To av..id those ohstructions and .lIHlc.uities, it
similitude whatever to Kn^hsh lof^Mslat.on. lo a d o , ^.^., ^^,,^,,,,^.
is neeessary that caoh one .eep to .s l-'l-; J ^ ; ' ;^. ^i „,,, ,.,.,, „a. .he clergy
ity do not arrogate to tlu.nselves the '•'«''V V £ it ] i voper to interfere in polities.
on their nido .how the greatest ^;-^;;:j'^Z':^:^Zi^ ^.r, that the past would
1410 On this point, it seems to mo that theie «ould be
guarantee the future.
... ,1 1 ...l.orn the eler"V in general are less mixed up
There are few countries .n the -•' ;\''^,;;; ., ,; , ..^-tome isolated priests, but
in Politi-i n.atters. f^l^-^Z::X^;^::T^,Jy strin., and the State has
the mass of the elergy ah ay, '^'H ^^^ pr^,,,^, „,o not wanting in
country than they.
.„d i,»...y i. »t 1."^ •»,i".»' ■'"' • » . ^ ; ^; ," ,..l ..,,,1 i, wi,)- ih. «uo,n„t ,„■
tl,o iwlilio."™, .I'.'"-™ ." "." ° , . I o„ii,„|ir. ami « bad rftizon. tor my l».-l,
liberty of Christian preaching.
1420
I
34
RK("APITI'I.ATIi)N AND (JKNir.UilliiN.
1 niiin ii|i ill II lew words all iliin liMi^jiliy m'i,'imu-iit.
InI. Tlio , 1 u' c'l ;.'i)vunirt UN •xiiri'f-»ly |noliiliitH all iiikIuu InllmMuo in "t('Mi|(()-
riil" inullurH; I '. ■> i:oiili'Xl of this law, ami 'In' win nl' ••uiuhin iiilliuiiuo' wliifli il cnu-
moratc!* uml ilotliios, iiuliciito that il catiiiDi lie ii(>|i|ie'l lo any .n'l dI'u "«|iii'itiial" iiuliiru.
H'.iO 2iiil. Thero Ih roiilly mi Kiiglwli JurisprmldtKio wtitrury tn tliix inloriirotulion of our
luw For till! tialwiiy ni^o iH iho oiilv iiiio in wliieli tliu olfttion had liuim nniiiillod I'or
"tintliio cliirirul iiilliionco," uml lliin iiiHuoiicc! rosulioil iiuilIi lo.ss rrmn "«i)iriuial autu" lliup
Iroin "lornjHirai intiiniUulion" kriowinyiy orijunizoii itml cttu>iiii)i a ^{oiiurul iiaiiic.
.'ird. Kvon though iho liiiiway proi'LtJoiit whoiild he regarded iw a jiirispriidoni'o op-
poncd to my inturiirclulion ul tiio lu v, this jiirisprudoiioo lui^ihl hiivo l)uoii jiirstilialili) in
Knf,'laMd, Iml would not ho auuuptud in (Canada, hiiriiuso in ihi« colony llio Ciiurch and the
Slato aro not in the suinu condition^ oloxisioncu t\n in tlio inotlu ■ 'ountry md hoeuiiHu our
coimtitution, our morula, our ntau^ ol'souioly, and our roli;,'U)Urt coi 'it ion diilor ontiri'ly,
4th. Su|ipo>in;^ ovon that our uloctoriil law mij^lvt Ixr :ip|iliivl Spiritual" niultors
[110 — whieh would he contrary to Iho mo.tt oloinoiitury notions iiutin: ci^'ht — still dorical
iiillueniu should not ho dcclarud "unduo" in this caso, hinuti! tho tacts proved r<'l r-o
thoniHclvos to till) oxprussion of curtain opinions on moral Ih )i,'y which itliould U ('re«,
and svhich from thoir nuturo it»olt' escape from our jii >diclioii
I conclude that in tlK> nam'o of the constitution, of religioui* libei , ol law nnd of
justice, I should reject the p. ulioii, and doclnro the dofoiidunt logalK i-loct. i.
'k
35
EXHIBITS.
I -OI^ i:>ETITIOnNrEP^S.
Kxhilit of Petitioners at Emiulte A, filed 3rd -/lUt/, 187«.
10
20
30
COUNTY OF CHARLEVOIX.
Mstmct of the Statement of the Expenses of the llonblc. II. L. Lanc/evm, V. B.. k'
the Election of Charlevoix, in January, 1876 :
Hy exiienses incurred to visit tiio County from tlie 30th
Deceinbor, 1875, to the 4tii of January, 1870 I 8 00
Carters to summon tlio meetings, kc -18 '.'5
Telegrams ^39 83
■House Pvents 16 ^8
Deposit with the Iteturning OtHccr 50 00
Board and travelling expenses paid to Arseno Simard, Mrs.
Riverin, Ismail Lavoio, Lapierro, Alfred Pillion and
Thcophile Simard 371 43
By accts, from T. Vallie, A. Cote, Isidore BoUeau and
J. Lepage ^^ '^^^
Sundries ^ 33
By accounts of A. Troinblay "^ 70
« J. Poitras 64 00
i. " J. Bigaouetto 18 00
<< » Ale.\is Uoslislo 28 00
« » O. Montrcuil 44 00
51088 62
Personal expenses paid by the Hoiiblc. II. L. Langevin :
Paid for Carters and Toll-gates ^1 20
" Telegrams and Postage Stamps 30 75
" '^"-'^ _!i^ 155 25
81243 87
CHS. i3UBRUGI-:R, J- ^^^^^^^ T^«'^^>
Rdurning Officer. ^?'^''
36
Petitioners' Exhibit A. k., filed with (J. Duherger's evidence.
(Quebec, March
Mu. Taute, to Olivier Montreuil, Dr.
Dec. 18 Trip to St. lloeirB )
" 18 Olio hour, going to St. Jolin's suburb and other places
" 18 To St Jolin's suburl) aiitl St Louis Hotel
" 18 Taking Mr. Valloe to the Court House and back to the liailway
40 Office
" 21 Taking Mr. Vallec to St. Hoch's
" 21 Driving .Mr. Tarte 2 hours
' 22 Taking Mr. D'Auteuil to the suburb and back
.Ian. KS Taking another gentleman to St. Roch's
" Vi 7 day's travelling
." 1) Trip to Bale St. Paul
" 26 Taking Mr. Valluo to St. lloch's
" 2t) 2 Sleighs to go to Mr. Langevin's triumpii
1876
oil Pebry 4 Heed on 'V
2.3rd, lS7ii
2.")
50
1
40
51)
1)
25
1
00
1)
25
25
2S
00
10
00
II
25
s
00
50
65
20
00
30 65
Approved at 844 00
ofe 23
821
(Admitted,) J. ISRAEL TARTE.
-, TO Alexis Delisle, Carter. Dr.
Quebec, January, 1876.
00
Mr ,
•lanuary 14— Toone trii)to BaioSt. Paul with two liorses— 6 days at$C.00;)er dieui, %'.W 00
To one trip to St. Joachim, to meet Mr. L , 2 daj-s at 84.00
12 00
per day
Off 16
4
20
Approved for 628
848 00
20 00
828 00
J. ISRAEL TARTE.
{Telegram.)
J. 1. Tarte, Esq., to Telegraph Office at St. Iren^e, Dr.
To messages
To Mr. Pelletier's trip
■^Q Approved,
810 81
2 00
J. ISRAEL TARTE.
80
UO
87
Ehoulement9.
F. lloui.EAU to A.i)or,PiiK Trkmhi.ay, Dr.
187t!. . „,,
Jan. 12, 13, 1-1 To board and lipildiiig ]*
li •' Curler's board and oxpenacs ^
n, 18 Hoard and bedd in-' ^ "^'^
,.,^i,,^,|, 2 70
19, 2:i inchi^ivo Board and "bedding for hiniselland other., and Carter's cxiicnsc.s. 11 i'O
82;; LU)
Approvc<l. J. ISRAKI; TAUTE.
Eliordernt'nts
11. (.'. Pei.t.ETiER, TO AnoLPHi Tkemblay.
Jan 12 ".oard and beddin;,'
■ " 13 and 14 Carter's board and expenses
" 17 and IS Board and bedding' '"
2 70
"!'' ;^'^"'^ ::;:"::::::;r Iio
'• - -:..■.:::;:::::::::::::::::::•:::::::: : ••••■••••••;;;:::;:: ^ -
Carter
«15 40
(Approved.) J. ISllAEL TAKTE.
100
110
laiiAKi- Tarte, Du. to Adolphe Trkmblay
For Messrs. Valleo and Dory's board
" Mr. Larue's, carter, board
For one trip made .y Mr. Louis Hoy to St. A;:nes ^ ""
Uamel Tremblay to St. Annies ^ »»
Klzear Tromblay to St. Agnes and Malijaie 9 00
For trii) made bv .M-. llamel Trcmblay to St. Thomas 2 00
" night trip niade 1-3 Mr. Kdouard Trembhiy to St. Joseph - "'
" trip made l)y Mr. Prosper Doseiieno to St. Agnes •■•••
For two trips nvide by .Mr. Leandro Bergeron, one to St. Irenee and the ^ ^^
other to .Misre ., .„
For one trip made bv i-li/X-ar Trembhay to Bale St. Paul -^ '^^
For one trip made by Ivlmond Trend.lay to St. Thomas J ^
For one night trip made by Klie Tremblay to St. Joseph.... i ""
For one trip made by Wilbrod Tremblay to MIsre, all nujhl ^ -^^
For one trip made by Jede Aiidet to St. Maire. ••.••-■;■";■ m,Vomar' 2 00
For one trip made by Kl/.ear Tre.nblay to attend meeting at bt. Thomas... - 00
For one trip made by Louis Roy to Malbaie • ^ ^^^
For one night trip made by Prosper Descheno to St. Mane
For one night trip made by Leandro Bergeron to St. Thomas
$96 20
Approved for $40. ^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^
38
Hon. H. L. Lanoevin, Dr. to Jos, Poitras.
For one trip miido to IJaioSt. Paul by Messrs. Laiigovin and Tarte 20 00
120 ditto ditto hy Messrs. Kobitaillo and noileau 20 00
ditto from from Baie St. Paul to Quebec by Messrs. Beiieau and
Chnbot 12 00
ditto ditto to Queljoe, Messrs Lepage and Cote 12 00
ditto to carry band to Sault Montmorency 10
»74
Ofif. 10
Approved for Sixtj'-four dollars.
964
Malbaie, 26th January, 187(>,
1.30 Hon. II. L. Lanqevin to Montreal Telegraph Co., Dr.
140
J. S. PfiRRBAnLT's Account, Murray Bay.
1876.
Jan. 1 I Telegram
5
6
ii
i:
10
11
12
U
15
17
18
19
((
99
9
45,39
30, 31, 43, 34
25, 27.
37
38
26
41
84
27
50
3(5
58
25
40
1 38
68
30
52
$7 50
J. A. J. Kane, Esq.
150
1875.
Dec. 30
31
1876.
Jan. 1
5
6
16
1 Telegram .
35, 33, 32, 65, 31
29, 25, 30, 25, 25
51,43
. 29
34
. 25
1 96
.1 34
94
39
TOO
170
ISO
Jnn 17
19
20
3 TulcKran
5
3
1 "
1
1
Curried
Brought til
2 Tele,i;raii
5
1
2
1 »)3, 55, 48
32,44 31,3
51», 79, (i I
1 66
8, ;i.i .
1 Si
1 99
''1
25
23
47
24
••
26
I'.t 05
irward
S, IL
nn 25, 25
31, ;!7, 25,
25, 26 ...
19 05
187G
Jan, 4
5
8
22
, CiMON,
25, 35..,
Esq
60
1 53
41
51
1876 E. P. Vall^e, Esq.
Jan. 19 2 Tcloi,'rains 36, 43
24 1 "
22 00
79
25
$23 04
DeduetoJ one telegram not sent, party being absent 70
Balance due 22 34
E. O. E.
Besides the above telegrams, which are due b}' us to the Telegraph
office, 1 have paid five others, one ot which 25 c. ; another
32 c.; a third one 46 c;; a 4lh, 25 c. ; a 5th, 25 c 1 53
Being a sum of il 53
J. S. PBEREAULT.
1 have sent 8 telegrams averaging 30 cents 2 10
Which I have paid cash.
J. A. J. K.
(Approved.) J. ISRAEL TARTB.
Paid.
mmt
E
I
I.'ihit \\ ol
( 'atiailii
I'roviiU'c ol (^iu'Ih'c,
JHrtlrk't or.Siigiieimy,
Votfx itiiil I'r<i,;,,i;n,js,,t th> House of ('niniiKms, (h, r,i^ Th>if»ilu , \(U/i /'i''.. l^^T*'.
]()() Mr. S|).'!ikcr I'lirlher informod Tlio IIoukc, that ho h*] ivcoivwl from the llmi. Mr.
.liHticc Itniithior, iitu' of llio JuilgoH Bclcetcil lor Iho trial of Klciuoii IN tilionw, imr.iiiuiit lo
the ('(.iiirovcrtol Kh'ctioiiN Act, 1H7:J, ft <'«rtificiitc and IJoport relating to the KIpction hir
tho llk'ttiiral District orciiarlovdix.
And liio same was read an f(ilh)ws : —
CIIAHLKVOIX CONTIIOVKKTKU KLIXTION.
(Transhiliiin.)
JUtiiiini Coitr/. Quflw Vivisun.
Tin CoNTBOVKUTEli Ki.ECTIONS AcT, HTo.
200 In the matter nl'an llioclion Petition hotwcoii
iSlMoN XaVIEK ClMiiN.
J'f/ilioncr,
AND
I'lKRKK Al.^:.\l^' 'rilEMHl.AV.
Sill,- 111 (Dnforinity wilh_ Sccti.ms !!• and 20 ol "Tlic t'onln. verted Kiections Act,
IS7:!," I scnil you a ccrtilicd copy of my .liidi,'nu'iil on tlio alM.vo named Kloction I'etition,
lo.'ethor with a cojiy of minutes of evidence tlierciinto annexed, and I have at the wimo
time tho iionor to rej.ort -inaMnueii as the >ai.| I'ciilinn alleges tliat cornipl practices
210 were comn;ilted at said Kioelion—
That on tlie trial (jfllie said ''etilioii it has not Ijeeii jiroved tiiat any c.orrujit prac-
tice was committed at llie said Hlociici. hy the said Pierre Aie.xis Tremhluy or to hiis
knowledge or with his consent.
That it appears from the said trial that the persons f.illowinc,', namely; Henry
SinianI, in.nhant, .Joseph Ale.xandre Ilainel, j.hysician. Aii-iisle l.emienx, farmer, all
three ol .^i. Kiionne de la Malhaie, Nareisse (iaricpay, merehani of Hale St. Paul, Koinnald
Luvoie and Thelesphoro Lavoie, farmers, both of St. Francoi.s Xaviero de la I'etilo liiviere,
were ^aiilty of corrupt practices at the .saiM Klectioii, whii;h .said practices consisted specially
in treTuinji the electors ami in providing them with drink and provisiona for the purpose
220 of influencing their votes,
That Joseph Maclean, of St. Ktionnc de la Malhaie, blacksmith, Joseph Simard and
Pierre liavoi'.', farmers, of St. Agnes, Leandre Trcmblay ol St. Fidele, nierchanl, Thomas
Duchesne, Alexis Tremblny and Isaio Tremblay, farmers, of I.es Hboidmements, IJeal
Assclin of St. Jlilarion, farmer, Charles Polvin, hotel keeper, l5aieSt. Paul, ami Onesimo
Uaulhier, trader of St. Urbain, were also convictca of having oiienod ur caused to be opened
houses of public entertainment for the reception ol the electors.
■WPi
II
Tliul iiiirii|ii iiriu'liiuh (lid mil ini'vuil oxloimivi'ly ut llu' siiid Kli'ctinii, i'X>t'|it in
iii;i(.ii'i' cirii|iii|i li()iiM'> and (rcntin),'.
In li'-llin<'n\ wlii'icuf, I Imvo Hi;,'nfd at Malliaio, thin ■-Mrd day >il Au^iint, Is;.'),
2au
A. 11, IJOUTIUKU,
J. s. c.
']\.ll„. Num. 'I. W. Amimn,
Spoiikcr iillln' llmiM' ot'CDninioii^ dI Canaihi.
(.'aniiila
l'i'iivin<'0 (<\' <^uidioi',
l)|>lrii-t()l Sa;;ucnay,
\ In lit,- J:/utii<ii Couit,
) TiiK ('i)NriioVKarKn I'Ii.ectikns A<'t, I>T:>
.Mai.iiaie. I'll- twcnlytliinl day ut' AiifJCii^l. I "^T-"'.
The II.iNdKABr.K A. I!. liol'TlllKI!. ,1. S. C.
240
//; >(■
SiMoN .\a\[K11 ('im.)N. K>i|Uiii', ('nnirailnr. orilic l'ari>li i>l
St. Illicnni' df la .Mailiaic
J'ilitu'iifr
AM'
I'iKiiKh Ai.KXis 'ruKMiii.AV. I'lwiiiiro, Siiivoyiir, n\ till' \iila,i:e
(itCliiroiititni, l>i.-.tricl iit'('liii<iiilinii.
A', .v/i '«./(•///.
jliivi juai'd liio [lai'lii'- in tlii> iii>c l.y tln^ir CoiinNci u\\ tin; nu-rits ol'tlic IVlitiiHi
iiiTst'ntfd l.y Simon Xavier Cinion, I'xamined liiu incciviiiro ol' rooird, hoard the oviileMco
»5() and inaUiriiiy dcliln'ialid, dealing in the lii'st piaee with tlie ohjev tions made to the ovi-
"' dciiuo luuriwcrvcil on the nioritH, do diMniss the ohjeetions made hy Petitioner to (|ueHtioii.s
in cross-examination put to witne^.-es AiijiUste lieminix. .lo.-epii .MtMicol and .lo.seph Vil-
lenciive and maintain the ohjeelion made hy liespomleiil to a eurliiin portio ' the
evidence of Xavier .Mailloiix,
And proceeding to Judge the said retitiun on tlie merits—
Wheieasalan oi«elion held in .lanimry, 1ST t, in .' . Klectoral JMslricl oC(^harle-
voix, I'rovinee of (iiioliee, for the purpn-e of electing a memher to icproselit the said
Klce'toral District in liie House of C'ommon.s of Canada, tlu' said I!espohdenl, I'ierro Alexis
Treinblayand the Jlouorahle I'ierro Joseph Olivier Chauveaii were candidates, and the
20U rclilioner an elector duly iii.ulitiod to vote;
Whereas at the said election, the said I'ierro Alexis Trendjluy was, on the twenty-
ninth of the said month of January, 187-1, declared duly elected a nn'mher of the said
llouso of Commons for tlio Electoral District ol Charlevoi-x ;
Wherea.-> it is manifest from the evidence piodiice'l in thi-iia-i-tli;;! orrnp! pniclices
8
12
prcvaiU'd iit the .-aid olcotioii, aijil tlwil llic .saiiio wcro conimittoil not by Ik'sjuiiulciil iiiiu-
self, l)ii( l)^- his Aj;ciit>i iiiid Sulj-Agonls, consisting the said CDrnijit pi'SRaiccs in giving or
promising to volcrs in order to sciiiro their votes moneys or oilier vahiulile eonsiderations,
treating tlie eieclurs in order (o intiuonco the election and opening iuui niaintaiidng on the
credit of Uespondcnl hollies of public cntertainiaent lor the i-ece|ition ot the elector^ ;
2 VO The iMideisigiied, .ludjjo of the Superior Court, sitting in jmrsuanco of the Act of the
I'ailiaineiit of Canada entitled the Controverted Klections Act, IS','!, declare that the said
Pierre Alexis 'I'reinlilay was not duly elected a member of the said House of Commons of
Canada for the said I'^lectoral District of Charlevoix, and that the said election is null ami
void, — the whole with costs against the said Pierre Alexis Tremblay, except costs of sum-
mon es and tay'ng of the witnesses following, which shall be pa3-able by Petitioner
namely; Damase Couturier, Hlic Maltais, TruHe \'illoneuve, Abriihain fjapoinle, Joseph
Lavoie, Oliver Jiorhelte, Flavicn Langcvin, Alfred (iirard, Josepii Ti'embla}-, Paul 'J'rern-
blay, Doniiniiiiie Tremblay, J'^l/.ear Dannis, Ce^ai- Ti'emblay, Alexandre Savard, Tiieopliile
J,avoie, John .McLaren, F)'an(,'ois .McNicol, Josejih (iagne, (Jeorgo Warren, 'J'homas
28(1 Cliajieroii, Thomas (lagiKUi, Jleetor J)ufour, Fleurant Treiulilay, Jean alias -Johnny"
Treinlilay, fldouarl (iobeil, Hildcbert (iirard, Abel Audetle, Francois Asselin, Samuel
Jioivin, Lea)'dr(! (iol eil, IJonifaee Laroia he, ,U'an Ha|itiste Boily, Seraphin (iucriii, Mpipiiaiic
Laforet. J-miis .Maltais, Jiomuald (ian'iK'. Jean Tlieotiuie Lajoie. l''lavien ,1. H. l!elle\ille,
Jean Ti'emblay, (ionzagUe 'J'remblay, Andie l.,abbi>, Chai'les I'otvin, ,Sara Simard ami
Onesime Hras-iird.
CllAS. DnSKIitiKli,
/'. .V. C. S. D, and Chik Elath-n Court.
1. the undersigned, Judge ol the .Superior Court, certify that the tbregoiii^' copy of
Judgmenl is a true cojiy of the judgment i-emlered by me in the said ca,-e.
2'.t(l
A.^15. KUUTllIKi;.
M.4i,«AiK,. 2r)th August, 1875.
./• A- C.
IJc also informed the Jlouse. that in coutormity with the -tth .section ol the said
Act, he had is.siicd his Warrant to the Clerk of the Ciown in Chancery to make oiii a new
Writ (jf Klection for the .said Electoral District.
lie turther informed the House, that he thought it hi.s duly to lay the fcUowing
facts belbre the House:
'• 1st. 'I'hal the above trial look' place and judgment given on the 23rd day of
" August, 187").
300 •■ 2nd. That the Judge presiding forwarded him his certiticate bearing date the 25(11
" day of August, lb7"), veiling the election, two days only having elapsed >iiue the decision
'• was given.
" llrd. That the 2Utli (Section of the Dominion Controverted Kle. lions Act, l,s74, as
" amended by the Act .'JS Victoria, Chapter 10, Section ;j, proviiles, ' that within tour days
'• alter the expiration ol eight days from the day on which bo shall so have given liLs
" decision, certify in writing, such determination to the Speaker, etc' "
*-!WSa«a«i<^;.
" -llli. T' III the .lucli,'o'ti Cerliticalo was received on llio 2.sili day of August, 1875,
" and hirt (the Siieakor's) Warrant was issued for a now oleelion on the same day.
" 5th. Tliat tlie Respondent in tlic said trial tiled an inscriiition for Uoview in the
31^0 " SuiieriorCourl for the District of Quchee, under the Uiird and :i4th Sections of the
" Dominion Contnjverted Elections Act, 1874, and the said Court, sitting in Uoviow. did
'• on the isih <lay of Decenihe' last, doterniino that the said Election was void.
•' 5tli. That tlie saiti judgment was received by him on the ;jrd day of January last.''
And the r^anio was read as lollows ; —
(iuEMEC, liSth December, 1875,
,S[R,— We I eg leave to enclose (annexed hereto) a certified copy of the .fiidgment of
the Superior Court in Review, rendered tliisday upon a petition of Simon Xavicr Cinion,
Ksquire, against the Return, at the last General Election, of Pierre Ale.xis Tremblay,
Esipirc, tor the ICIecloral District of Charlevoix.
320 '^''"-' '*"''^' Petition contained charges of corrujjt practices having been eomniitted at
the I'^leetion to which it referred.
We theretore. in pursuance of Section .Vo. 20 of the Controverted Elections Act. of
1873 and of Sections Nos. 30 and 33, of "The Dominion Controverted Elections Act 1874,"
report as follows ; —
Firstiv:— That upon the trial of the said J'etilion, no corrupt practice was found lo
have been comnutteil at the said Election by or with the knowledge and consent of the
.Slid Pierre Alexis Tremblay ;
Secondly :— That flic following persons were louiid at the trial to have been guilty
of corrupt practices at tlio said Election namely ;— Henry Siniard. Merchant, Jo.se])h
030 Collard, Merchant, and Jo.-^eph A. llamel, Physician, all three of the Parish of St. EHenno
^ (!e la .Malbaie, Narcisse (iariepy, -Merchant, of Jiaie St. Paul, Augusle lAMnieiix, Mlack-
.smith, of the Parish of St. Agnes, Seraphin (iiierrin, .Merchant, of the Parish of St. Simon,
Romuald Luvoic and Telesphoro Lavoio, both of the Parish of St. Frangoia Xavior de la
Petite Riviere.
r|'|ii„lly :_'rhaL several houses of public entertainment for the accomivodalion of
Electors were, during the said Election opened and supported in the said Division, and
that treating was extensively carried on during the said Election, but that a corrupt inten-
tion has not been sulficiently established to warrant us in reporting that corrupt practices
extensively prevailed at the said Hleclion.
340 We also beg leave to enclose herewith a certified copy of the notes of ovidenic
ad.kiced on the trial of the said Petition.
We have the honor to be. Sir,
Your very obedient servants,
W.(;. MEKIIDITII. C.J., L.C.
A. STUART, J.
N. CASAULT, J.
To the Honorable
The Speaker of the House of Conunons of Canada.
i-vm
I
(L\NA1>A,
^,50 I'rovinch (IK (ji'iiiiKr
Distrifl ol(^>uoliir.
.'560
In ihv tyiipcriur Cunrl,
Sittini/ in Review <d thn Citij of (Ji(eb>:>\
■J he High krn ill diiy ol Decoinber one tlioiisiind ciylit liuiidmd and sevonty-livo. -
Present.
The JIn.N.uiAui.E WILLIAM COLLIS MKltKDlTJI, Chief Justice.
Mr. Justice A.^nTMnV STUAKT. »
NAl'OLKON CASAULT.
In the matter of an Election i'etilion for the Kieetoral District of Cliarlcvoi.T, l)etween
.Simon Xavieu Ci.mon, Ksciuire.
Pntitioiitr,
.\NI>
i'lKKUE Al.B.KIlS TuE.Vllil..SY,
Pvesmited lanler " Th' ControcaHed Ele.d.ions Ad, Il>?J."
The Court now here, sitting in JJeview in virtue of Sections IKJ, :ii an.l i):! ot tiio
Dominion C,„>tron:rkd Ehrlions Art, 1S71, on the inscriplit.n in Koview tiled in this
cause hy the party thereto; having licard the parties, ,lolh eonlirm and maintain tlio^
decision rendered hy tlie llonoraMe .Mr. Justice Knuthier on the twenty-third day of
August, one thousand eight hundred and Hcvcnty-tive. and therefore doth decide, declare
and determine : —
;«y() First :-^Tiiat the said I'ierre Alexis 'fremhlay, the .Moinber wliose Election nnd
JJeturn were ecnnplained of hy the said Petitioner, was not didy elected, and that the
Eh'ction and lieturn of the said Pierre Alexi> 'rremiilay were void;
.Secondly ;— 'fhal the said Pierre Alexis I'rendihiy d.) p:iy the costs in.'urred hy the
Petitioner on tlio said I'^lcctioii Petition and the trial thereof, save and exceiil the summon-
ing and taxation of the iollov.'iiig witnesses: Damage Couturier, Klie .Maltais, Trotlo
Villeneuvo, Abralmm Lapointo, Joseph Lavoie, Olivier Kochotte, Klavien Langovin, Alfred
(Jirard, Joseph Tremhiay. Paul Tremhlay, 1) )niini,jiio 'L'romhiay, Kl/.ear Danais, Cesnr
Tremblay, Alexandre Havar-l, The ipliile Lavoie, John .McLai'en, Fran(;ois McNicol, Joseph
(iagne, Tieorgc Warren, 'riiomas ( haporon, Thomas (Jagnon. Hector Dalour, Nareisse
ocn Harvey, Jean Warren, Toussaint .Morin, Israel Dufour, Flourant Tremhiay, Jean, alia^
^' Johnny Tremblay, Ivlouard (iohiel, llildeherl (iirard, Abel Audetto, I'Van^ois Asselin,
Samuel JSoivin, lA'andro Gobiel, Moniface Larouche, Jean Bapliste lioily, ,Serapi)in Guerin,
Kpiphanc J.aibret, Louis Mal'ai>. Ronuiald Gagne, Jean Theotimo Lajoie, Klavien B.
lielleville, Jean Tremblay, (lonzague Tremblay, Andre Lnbbe, Charles Potvin, Sara Simard
and Onc-ime l?rassard;
Thirdly:— And tiie Court do moreover decide and dclciniine that the s;ii.l Pierre
Alexis Tremblay do pay the costs of the Petitioner on the Itoview belore this Court,
distrait.^ to Messieurs Alicyn and Chauveau, the >aid Petitioners' Attorney.
Certilied a true Copy of the original in our custody forming part of the records of
'V){\ the Suiierior Court according to Ltiw,
l-i.SLT, iirUiajrilil.S \ CAMPiJF.LL,
/'. .V. C.
4o
Kxl,[Ulti>r Petition: IK ot Jui,put,j v. v., Jf/eil '>3r,i Ai'</u.^t, 187*).
Wo. till' unit r-ii,'iifil, MiliMiiiily ilccrliu'o tliiit, on Sablialli, the Kith day of .(iinuary
liisl, Mr. Fatiinl, ciiiatu ol St. Urbain, said in ids sermon, in adilros.sing his i)arishoners:—
1 Thai tiii'io \v(w-c persons at Decliar-o (jiarl of St. Urbain) who, because thoy liave
gulliereil a small iiarvesttlds year, lieliovo tliemselves able to live \vitli(5ut any hoi]), and who,
lor that reason, eousidor themselves as "boss,' warm their feel nrider the stove, and under-
take to call political mcotinys. Among all llioso persons, more tin»n one half are unable
to form an opinion and to guide themselves
2 That tliev listen to an ignorant man, who knows neither how to read nor how to
4(H) write, a man lately escaped from jirison, (the man of whom he wi-hed to s|)eak is an honest
man and has never been in prison) rather than seek advice from jier-ions able to guide them.
•d That they would do miicli better to listen to their priest, than to that high jiriest,
(in speaking of the same man ho abided to above) as it was their duty to do.
•t That they wore not, also, to listen to the persons coming from Quebec and else-
whore to speak in favor of Mr. Tromblay, because they came to deceive them.
5 That if they l)ad not iiad their priest and the rich farmers to permit them to sow
in the last spring they could not have sown.
t; That il iliey wished the same purs )ns to help tliem again in ilio future, they were
to li.llow tlicm and vote for the same candidate they voted for in the i)rescnt election, that
■410 is, .Mr. Langcvin.
:. That Mr. Langevin was a man capable of rendering great services to the county.
8 That Mr. Tremblay was a stubborn man. listening to nobody, and no longer
worthy of our confidonci'.
II That those people (at the Decharge) were to listen to their priest, to follow him
in the jiresent election, if thoy desired to have his services when they should need them,
as those belonging to the parisii.
And we aie making tliis solemn declaration, believing it con.sciencioiuly true,
by virtue of the Act in the aith year of Her Majesty's reign and intituled ;— An Act lor
the suppression of voluntary and extra-judicial oaths.
.of^ (Signed.) PKTKE GILBKHT.
^^^ XAVII'.U (illlAJil).
Made ami certiliod betbre mo, this eighth day
of Kebruaiy, one thousand eight hunil-
red and seventy-si.\-. (Tiiie (Jojjy.)
(Siii-ncd,) !•'. ASSELIN. J. 1'. F. I.ANtiKLlKH,
S(,ll.'<rfl,.' I'r/llin,,.
[Another eojiy of the foregoing appears to have been tiled by I'ditioncr.-, on llth
Scpteml)cr, IS70, a-^ Kxhibii i,]
10
E,ihibil F of J'cliliuntrii.
1:^0
St. lliL.MUoN. Aiiril, 187t>.
11(1
450
160
To My liiinl, llif An■lllJi^lH)l) nf (iilulicc : —
Wo, llie llH.l(•^^iJ:lK•ll, ii;iri>lii<>iicTs ni St. Ililnrion, M.loiniily ilofhiro Unit our
prio.sl tlid not Miy on tlie KUli day of Jiiiiiiary la.st,
1 That till' ]iai'P>hioMcrs of St. lliliirioii wuro crooked licacls ; hut that iIhto mo
aiiioiiH- us some < rooked liea.lM, who, iiiNtoad of nubmilling ihciiiHulvos to tliu docisioiiH of
tlio church and ohcyiiiy tliu letter of our hisliojis, make a iiastiiiieof kcciiing and iiiereasing
discord in the iiari--h.
li lie did not >peak of llio C'onsorvalive party, but ^aid that wo could not conscicn-
liousi>- -.ole for ii i^iherai candidate wiieii lie is known to he sucii.
:; lleilid not sav, in a ij:ener.al niannei', tliat tliose who should vole for a hilierai candi-
date wiudd sin nioi'lally; hiil, that to vole for a Liberal candidate tlirou;,di conteniiU of (ho
decisions of ihu church, coiistiluted aseri(Uis fault.
I It is absolutely fal>e that he sui.l that Ihero are jieople. in the parish, who call
themselves Catholics, and who are ( JaribaKlians and make war aj,'ainst Iho I'opi^ Here is
as much as \.e can remember of what he has said : " Vou nvo to he called, this week, to
choose a man to represent your interests in Parliament. I will tell you to vote accordinj^
t) your cons.icni e, eidiyhtoned by your superiors." Do not foriret that the bisho|is of the
Provinie assure vou that Jaheralism is "like the serpent which crept into the terrestrial
'• jiaradise to tempt and lead the human race to tall."
Accordinj,' to our bishops, the Liberals are deceitful men; 'hen you must not Ibllow
them ii you do not wish to be deceived. Lihcrulism is eonilemn.' 1 hy our Holy Father,
thpl'Djie. The Church condemns only what is evil ; now I.iber.Tlism is condemned, then
Liberalism is bad, an.l therefore.you ought not to give your vote to a Liberal, your bishojis
declare it openly.
Moreover, vour lir.-.! pa-loi.s tell you that "the priest and the Hishop, can justly
"and must cuiscientiously lilt up their voice to point out the danger, and declare author-
•• italively that to vote in a certain way is sin."
Now, if sometimes it is sinful to vote in a certain way rather than in anolhei wa^-,
it cannot be, assuredly, when you are voting according to the wi.sc coun.sels of all the
Biahojis of the I'rovince; and if it is not in that way, it must be in the oj.posite. How-
ever. 1 must tell you that if you are voiing for a Ijiberal candidate, not believing him to
bo so, because your conscience tell you that he is the man that will best represent your
inlcKvIs in Pailiament, in such a case you do not sin. 15ui if you know that he is a
Liberal, you cannot conscientiously give him your vote ; you are sinning by hiv,,iiiig a man
who supports principles condemned by the Church, and you a-sumc the respon, ibility ot
the evil which that candidate may do in the application of the dangerous principles which
he professes.
And iiuuk, brethcn.. it is not sullicient for a randidai.' lo be a Caiholic, in order to
doNorvi" Vdiir vi.tos , l,ocaiis«i it U iiol i.ic.isoly Ih.' itmii wlimn voii niv to .■oimidcr, IhiI
470 Itir jioliliiiil i.riiicipU's ii* well as the i)rincii.loH <.i 'lio C.-venmiciil wliicli 1m< siii>|m.iN.
ViclMi' I'ltiniiMMU'l is 1. Ciitliolic, (iaiil>iil(li is a Calliolii-, ami yot, this doi's n..l |iiv-
V«>iil tlii'ni Iniin ii'l...||itij; njjtainst llio Cliiiicli and from making war ajjaiiiwl (lurllolv
Fallicr Iho l'c)|ioand from Uci'iiiii;,' liiin a pri-'ntKir in Ills t'listlo. In lliu saino niannci-
tlif LiliiM'alH nialic war ai^ainsl llio Cliurih. I<>r J.siis Hays : " lit' that In nitt wUli me, irt
nyaiiist niu."
Ni, , I'lo Lilicrals aro agniimt tlic Clianli sim-o hIio cunilernns tlioni , llioroforo they
iiKiki! war against llio (.'liurcli since tlioy refuse to yield to lior toat'liinKs.
Uenifnilior. my dear cliildron, that you shall have to render to Cod an aoenunt of
the volo yoii 'vill cast this week. Tell moon what »ido would you prefer to he at the hour
4J^0 otyoiu' death ? I.s it on the side of the Church, of your SovoreiKn I'onliU'aml your lii«ho|w?
or on the siilo ol Viilor Knimanu.l and Carihaldi ? Consider, and decide, like men and ncjt
like <'hildrcii.
The act which you arc ,1,'oin,^' to pei'l'oi'ui has. pcrhap-. more importance than you
louM imagine.
What is importani, ihcn, is to h;ivc your conscience eMlij;hlcned liy those whmn you
believe eapahle of advisiny you well, and to fcdlow your conscience thus enlij,'htened as lar as
you can. Ilyiioin^' this, (lod will not reproach you, and consequently 1 shall not do (-0
inysell,
And we make this decl'U'alion, hclievin:; it conscientiously to iio true and hy virtue
4ij() of the .\cl pas>ed in Ihe;i7th year of Her Majesty's rei,i;n. entitnled: An Act for the
.snppressi(]n of voluniary and eNtr.'i judicial oaths.
.Signed.
Jteceived and cortiticd hcfore me, this .second day of April One ihcmsanil
eight hundred iind sevenly-si.x.
(Sioned) F1;AN(;()1S .'^AVAHD, Mayor.
True Copy.
I. .S. LA\<iJiA!S. Priest.
V. l,AiN'(ii;idKJ!,
,S(dl. of the Petition.
•,„) Siiinalures ajipended to the hotloin of the ahove original declaration and other parts,
' Miid sent at the same time as the said declaration to the Ar.'hbishop nt(,>uelitc, and eerlilied
helorc F. Savard. Mayor.
April the L'nd, isTti.
Antoine l!ou(hard
( 'ome Savard
liypolite Trend'lay
Francois Trendilav
J)aviil Cole
Cleni ne Trend'hiy
Patrice IJoach.nn
Thon\as Trem'ihiy
4h
510
520
5S0
Jiili's Ti'i'iiililiiy
l.imirt 'riciiililiiy
I'iiliiiijii'il lidiK'lit'r
(iivy;oii'i' Tfuntliliiy
Tlii'lcK|ili<)iv t'lu'riiiiuii
.Marion <iiiulliii'i°
'i'iiU'li'i' Iloiii'liai'il
I»Jii(' I'ilotc
Xiivicr 'IVcinblrtv
CnHcnicr Troiiiljlay
Oclavi) Simard
Nnxairc Vcrroaii
'riiiMi|>liiii> Vi'i'ivau
'riiiiiiui-' lli'i'vcy
l''i>. Tioiulilny
Kii.-flie Triiiililay
I'liichor Ti'ombliiy
AllVo'l niirliosno
lluL,'iu'> .lurvio
I'Vam.'iii-* l!oi';;i'r<iii
Tlit'lii-'iihoi'c V^iiMlal
(ii'in'f^o Tivmlilay
'I'liu^saiiit H('if;ii'iiii
.li).-i'|ili VoiTcaii
I'Almiiiiil Tremlday
MeilPiit' Cmiloinln"
( )iii'^inio ISdiicliard
IClionio |)('Sga;^lioh
I'ra'. Ills Ik'i'ficrori
L'li 1 Dosliicns
(.'lovin CoiiIoiiiIh)
Jean liii'. I'ilDto
Aiualilo 'rroiublay
All If. I Savaiil
Ar.'t'iic licluiij{i'r
Iluliorl Troinblny
Xavicr (iravi'l
I'ii'rrc Tromlilay
Xorlii'i'l CoiiiDinlii'
Antiiinc (iaiilliii'r
.IdHopli 'I'lciiililay
( )Mi'-tiiiir liaiilliior
Hello liailliiki'
Klwar Marlol
t)ravi» lii)iuliaril
liiiillaaint: lioiiiliaril
iintliynif lliMiclianI
Mai's Diiilii'Hiu'
li,,|ilia<'l Cliouinanl
Aiu'i''K> ( 'lidiiinaril
Filius l)eslik'ii>
Nool Tcoiiililay
JoMopli 'I'li'iiilihiy
.lean liiiiiciiai'd
Tlios. (iifai'il
Miistaclio Siinai'il
I'astlial Tri'iiililay
Jlclio l!or;,'ori)ii
l-'i-iiMi'iji Savaril
"^W^
jfj
1
■ -'aia«S» ^ StiiK SiA ?9<aeaitUetKB ' r.
40
Petitioner.-^ KJiihit II. .Plal ii:'dh deposition of the Uew J/. Ciiiq-Muiv.
u4()
(J'h'M tin- Courier dit Canada, i2tii May, iSj6.)
Ml{. I'. A. TKKMBLAV CONDKMNKD.
560
5tiO
Tv the Julltur.
Siu,— HxUiionliiKuy tilings are m.w goiii.i;- on I'oiiciitli CMiKMian sUics to wliich we
were not airusloMioa in our peaconil fount ry, an. 1 wliich may lu; looKod upon as signs of
tho liniCH. Sincere ("atholics now ask themselves with honor— to wliat point siiall wo he
carrio.1 hv this revolutionary hlast. I will no lon-or say Liheral, hut revolutionary, which
for sometime has hurst upon our pc'ieoful Canada. For Mr. I'. Tremhiay was reserved the
Hud late of causing us to he present at. those scamlaious .scenes.
The i:Evcmmi^jri, tiie Saiim.n', the .toi,y„.d d,- (Jerh.;; ha.l, indeo.l, up to lliis time
little hy little familiarised their readers with contempt of the priest and of religion; they
indeed" preached to the i)eople the non-intervention of the priests in ).olitie.s and advised
that sume people not to ohoy their spiritual heads in those nuitlers. These same journals
indeei wcntsofarasto endorse all the responsibility of Mr. Huntington's programme,
thev readilv ren.lcre.l their assistance to justify in the eyes of the country that cry ol war
against Cat iiolicism thumlered forth hy one of the Ministers of the Crown, and disavowed
In- none ol' his colleagues. It even hai.pened one .lay that . certain wiiter of the vicinity
of tiuehec gave himself the useless Irouhio oi going round hy Toronto to attack" in the (lloU
under the signatiu'e "An Ultramontane," the chief pastor of the Church in .Montreal, to
criticise, to censure, to carp at and to pull to pieces the admirahle mandate of the holy
prelate on Liheralisin. nut wo were not yet accustomed to .see a candidate defeated m an
election, devoured with ambilion, and the most inordii.ato thirst lor parliamentary glory,
C!.ver with moiustrous accusations the clergy of a country, -His Lordship, the Arch-
Bishop Iiimscll.-upset and throw everything into di.sorder, on his way to succeed in
juggling himsell into a seat in the House,— go so far as to a>k the I'ope hinvelf to hand
over to his mercy a certain numher of prie.sls, that ho might theii hand them <.vcr to the
secular arm. If Mr. Tremhiay could obtain this point from the Holy Father, how he
would rejoice to see his palpitating victims tremhling and shrieking under his rod ! How
the whole Liberal pack who now urge him on to that e.Mravagant act would applaud him in
his triumph. It seems to me 1 already see Mr. Huntington applauding him on his return trotu
Home, and greeting him hy saying: bravo, generous, sol.iior, thou has cleverly under-
stood, and valiantly executed mv orders. Thou art worthy of reward ; thou desorvest as
much as the heroes of the (iuihordallair; if thy legal acquirements were as vast as thy
great heart we would give thee the place of Judge ; but we will take care thou dost not lose
hy it in the meantime. Here i- a seat awaiting thee in the Senate; take that as the lir.st
pled..e of my good intentions. Truly Mr. P. Tremhiay, considering his decided tnste lor
tlie ilesh of priests, was horn ajcentury too late. Ho would have been at home, and m his
, 'ement, in con.panv with the sans ndoths of the Frencdi lievolutioi, . The clergy of Charle-
voix overlooked his value in opposing him ; they did not know liow to appreciate hu . nor-
mous love for the Chunh, ami above all f(U- the jirie-ts !
At the point where the .ptestion ..f the intervention of Iho clergy in the late election
r)Sn at Charlcvoi.K now is, it is right that the public should receive Ci'itain inforiuation con-
' ce-niPL' the fa.'ts which accompanied and followed that election, which has assumed the
570
1 1 I
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w
■-m»t
50
„,„,„„,ians o( an .vout. For lb... mo...l.s U,c p.ess ot ..11 political P-'^ ''"f ^^;;';;' ;;^;
caiiso ofivli^ioii.
„„,.,„. „,„ ,i„„ „,.. io,.,.naU ,.t .1... I.ilK..-..! pmny ..o,,..! ... ..u..„..-..,^o e...i. otho..
i„ .lenoun..;..- tho (•...vs of Cn.a.'lcv.ix i.. tl.e ..u.st o,lio... ...a...,...-.
None .,.■ u, .i,o„..l., p.-.,,o,. .,. a.s....,,! i.,to ,1,. ..,o.,n .o ...nfule -M .l.e .u.c.,..a,i...,s,
r.UO l,oatl.Mlmlc.atoo.u.c.a,.s. alon. ; ... .s .l,.s: .1... ^^ hole all,, lud Leo-
.,,ia...al or his Loni.hip ,he A.-hhishop of .^.:.h.c hy M. In; .1, n - J'
..........od that l.-il...,.al w.lh c.o.,ti,k..,.:o. The si.i. w..s «...,i,^ oa u.th a- .... h >p.. s
: ^ .hIe ci,...u.ns,...a..s of ,he ro.....y of Cha..levoix, wi, ...ani •'>;;;;;;-;.- ^^
,„m.ulty ot eo,.....a„ic.atio,: wouM pe,-,ai.. F..il of -'""'--;;;;;, '^ ^ ^'o
;;;';;::T;;:;:;':;;:r;:h;.;;;e,f;;;;i:;;::.;':;:^
tions to e.,r„h.e.. the p..hii.s the ti.ae h..s eo..>e to,- the cle..gy o, C ha,lc^o.^ ...
to jii>lify the.iis'-'lve^ helo.c the jiuhlie.
f.-om iiiterieii.ifi; ia \m\)\w alh.irs .'
While layin, ..siae ..U pa.-ty spi.i,, i. .na. "^ i--7t''T..e;:;!l.in:;V!^r' u
th'a. wo..,h of i-e ea, the Uo.. M.-. 1;-;^;^-;-' ^ ^^ ^ ^ ^ H-'' =^' "-
--:,rrieer::;::^
;,.:y....e ..... expiati.... The l.o,. M.-. ^-'^-'•''^llh.r^'c n .^ l^^^ him
,,„;,,a, .he .•e,.o„sihle hei.- of U.ose .a..Us -'" ." ;^ IZZlnW jo.,.i,;, .he
„,„, ,,i,is f.K .Is. who ,ho.„h, to -';'''-'^.^' ;;, '^.;, ,:,',,,,,,. n.oe^^s ..f
..„nl«of the e..e,„y This is what wcal<...s t I H' ^ J' r,.„.ovi,. i. o„e
..o..,ai., ,,eople .o-,lay ; la., i. is ..of ihu '^^ ^''''.' ^i^J^^'^l^ ^„^.y a.„l Z his ho.,o.-.
it with that of the DoutreH.
_i-.
m
.-J I
.1 ...,f> i»m. wiw iHliU- ■.iilliciclit to |.l-.lit> I'll"
„:l„ tl.e ..an,lura. wl.iW, .n,l,o,ly the "'-/ ^J '^^^ ,„„„„.„.ie,l ..X, l-uvh.. uuule us
I,. ,„ ,.,vnel. ole.nen, iu tl.c ^'o'"- "-" \;^ J ,„.o,niHo to wa,o war upon H-so
,v,,ils, the Hon. M,- '-'«";■";.— i;^,;'. .m.iont to ..ovo.-au,l voaeou, .he en-n.
dan^omu. .neu ; wUh .en.nis " . "^":^7 " ' ^Ve .'ive hiui -mr su,.,.ort. 1 see not >n
in.-'-i^" ">^ '->•, ^.!::;:::;; x;\ve.e:.ou.heiptoM.^ u>y..i-.
vvl.'Ll we have m.humI inciie ^lK\«ni>ij 111"
,,::,, .1 1 »i< -" b"i« «,.,■,...
' , „ „,,„,i„, „llta (;i.."Tl, l,.l.«s™ .l.i'»>-elv'-'»
::;:;:,r::r:::-":r' .......-.» «- '- '- ,
«. "'■ *"--,:'i ;;:;:,::"2„;:;;t:;rs;,r^,:'s;:;:
l,,,.,,o,l l„leu,l the s.n.e wuhall <'- "^ ^_^^^ ^1_.^,^^,, ^,, ^^,i„^.,, ^.at the inih.euee ul the
o..,lesiMsli.ai laws. Hveo u. the eas. ' - ,^_ ^^.,j j,^^^, ^,,„„,,, „„i i„ ,ny way prove
eler-V luM ei.surea tl.e v.etoi'J oi .i . • ,-, ^ .,. [A,,- ii, the eyes of our poj.u
,,„ ;,,, i„„„.,u.e was u.e,l i.. a>. "'"'-;;' ;•;'!,„ ,„., („.,..., who Unow the ,wo
,,,,,„, .„ si>.ee,ely Catho.ie that --"'" ' ".J ^;^ ^ „„, ,...,„„in, M.. Lan,evin,-,hat
'^^'•:r;sr :;;;:: c^Miay there wa.uua,^^
,r \tr I.'iiiu'eviu's siiceess when
,„., sax, whieh he M l.is hest to use '^-'^^^'^ . ^,„„,,,,„ ,,,.;„,, i.nheriles; .hat ou,-
U,u..sJ,e,nadethose,en.len.eu.ay I. --«^ ^_^^^^^^,J ,^,^,^,,^ M,, Tremhlay wa.
people ou,ht.u,t to hsteu to us ^ „ ' , ,^ ^, J.,,,,,,,.,. ^ ,., p.-ve the sae,-e,lue.s o
L,n,,,a..e.l.oS..l^Ma.u.s,ma..> .anlwc ^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
,.,;,>,,i. ,„,oiiwaslonaiyu,-,ea.ha. n,:..e,.,. .^^^^^^^^^^
' ,,e.n o,U...ca .,p ..V the ehaphun, a e,.n.u. • ^ ^^^ ^^^„ ^^^ ,„^ „,^,.^,.
Those are eenuiuly ..-ave lae.s aga...t ^^h II ^^_^^^ ^^^_,-^ ^^ ^. ,j,^.^,^_„,,^. ,.„, ,
,,.,,,,, .„„„,,. were .-i.ht .o appeal. J ';;;;„ ^.,.,, ,,,,;,,, „>e .ril.unal of .he Areh"
,,,„„,. were aenouneea ibr these ""J-«">';'^ ,,,„., ,„ ,,„,„^ ,„,y |,...o,ne ,.use,.-
,,,,,.,,. Vou inuuMiately see . e aeeus. . - - -■ 1^^ ^^^^^^^^^^.^ ,,, „,„ ,,„^^,.,
,„,,,!„. ,.a.her ,l,ey .ueU ^^^<^ ^^^.^Z^^^^^,,, „.e s.,-..,.le haa his p„eUe.s sturte.l
they have l.een n.au.lea a... Mr. ^^ ^ ^", i,,,,;;,,, ,,„, .Vienas, v no lo,„.r ha.
.vi.h.l.e.W-,-'/''-'''-'''';;^;''''^'-! i^^^^ Ue aeUnowlea^es that the letters were
either orij,n>.al or eo,.y. NV hut ^•'' ''''"'""'V.mLt for haviu- .naae the letters olfneua.
,-,, ate, .:t l.owa,.tstoUe...<Wan no e,.^om .Mu a ^^^^^^ .__ _^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ ^^^^^ ,^^
''•' U,.serve,^uM.olUiealhu,nhug tha .st,^^, 1^^^^ ^'^ ^^,,,^ .ay it happene 1 one
f i:r :.1X -Ih^^t'Si;^' :>. l.. .eUet a su o. S:.....,, ..ut o.
o2
«8C 00, maao oatl, UkU 1,o wa. ,KK.r a,>,l noo.ly ; it whs u tnl..l,oo,l, l.ui i. .ouM no, W .v
raise oatli. houaase- it was Mr. l>. TreinMay who look that oalli.
Oar ,nan a..U,.owU..l,os now tl.a. th. letters wero tuauKlH l,ut ho cat.lally uvoMs
uHsertin.. that it was not ho who man^^hM or falsiti.a then; lor the lh,>,K m,f,hl t.Uo u ha.
n It is r..ne,nbe.-e,l that ho ono lay solon.nly '"oelur.l i.> full ParUatnont that ho luul
lit taUon the hnno-.s oath with whi.h ho ha.l hoon so ^.vatly ropmachoa, and that nnn.o-
est) diatoly altorwanls a .vrlilio.! .oi.y ol that oath was lai.l holofo Ins oyc8.
0„ iho other hana Mr. Tren>hlay i.-inautes that it n>ay he that son.o ol his .Vioml.,
oreven Mr. Langovi... or Mr. I'arto lalsilicl the lotlors, but that in any oaso ho .annot ho
;:e;ousihle n-r i"; I after that he vory sineerely holievos hi.nself ,ust,Uo,l .. rolatn.n to
the aeiasation.
1 consider, Mr. i'Mitor, that I have a ^erfoct ri,:;ht to tako cofrnizaneo in a slight
.loKroe of thoso letters because their nature was highly injurious to all the Cures ol (,harlo-
vS Abhel'a,,aot ,avo in relation to his letter satisfactory explanations wlueh throw on
1>. Troniblay all the resiionsihility of that atfair.
Vhbe Au.lot, it is sai.l, presented to His Lordship tho Archbishop excuses in relation
r,MO to his 'attacks upon the character of the lion. Mr. Lan^evin ; but there has been no e^-
da . tio s rcLrds the Cures of Churlcvoix ; and o, reparation before the eye. ol he
planationas ii„a. a. ,„ Abbe Sax he it is whoso name will continue the
poop e there has boon no question. As to Ann, r^ax, ik. a , ;„,i„„w.nt .,f His
' ' • 1 • .1 • ,. I .,iV.,;.. K'lr bo it troiu nie to b anio the udijnionl oi iiis
most eotnuroinised 111 tin-' sail atlair. f.ii ut ii uoiu iii<- , , ,. i, •
;1Z ,e Archbishop in respect to hi.n. 1 tnpossiblo as it was lor His Lords ip o ob an
~!,n.d\heoriginallorofcortilied copies
: : t ;::: tt it ^ not the .ess ,n.e that the de..nco o. Mr. Sax was of the -nost per,
character and that he was more cowardly it. the delonce than it, the attack ; in h. ^Ue o
lis Lordship the Archl„shop he had not e.en tho courage to say ^'^ -P«^ "'
letters really conveyed the genera. ~ <;;^^^;;;'i;;- •:;'::::,, rrUu: .-,1
-' ;:;;:.;:nni::.j;;r^, tjuirxrr^ir^ :;-:;.. ..e ^.d .. bett. .o ..
p. Troniblav endeavored to prove by means of those hotter, that "-- -^ j;.;;'-;'
i„ ,„e .ot.se cond^.nned by the Church. Hut the proof is useless ; the -' '';\^ ';
' r blav ineUulos a priest, or some priests, even a bishop among Ins pohfcal I., n.
w > n.^^ • prove he is not a Liberal ; that might, perhaps, at tlie ni..st, prove tha
;::irL;:rst::::;;::rL;ir;:^::;»..:r,,.i;,.
FL
r .1 .m.i \m.il \fr P Trcmb.av says to 11 . L. t.io Archbishop,
In his letter of the 30ll. Al^ '• M • ^. ^'« '^l > > ^^, ^,,,^^ ,^^^,,., ,,king,
" After having waited in vam for a coi.=ideiat>lc time loi ici ,>
not lor tl.o .•,.iulon.i»iti..i> of tho Cu.vs UfjuinHt whom I |..vH.r.v.l .■..n.i.lm.Us ,n ivIatiMU lo
tl... Clmrlov..ix oloctioii, but Torn rojiulMr tril.u.u.l ;" In hI.ow tl,o .Mlroutory u.M .,,..,( ..
,lu,.li<.itv ,lis,,lavoa by Mr. Tr.Muhlay in .hi. inM,ltin« io.ler, aj,'ain.. .i,o first ...•.•ic.s,a.t,.Ml
V.»U .ll^ni.arV of this I'n.vin... I .hall hriCly not lorth the atlair in .•ospout of wind. . r
Tnunhlav is now appoali.,.^ U, Kon... In .ho .oarse of .ho n.on.h ..t l-ehruary last Mr.
Tn.nhiaV formulate.! hotoro ,hc trihanal of 11. h. tho Anhl,isho,. ot (^a he.ju.lx.al .om-
plaims M^ainst sovon or eif?ht Vmv. of Cha.'lovoix. In .Iw.t complaint I . Jrom .l«y .1.-1
not ask. .w h. now says, for a r.^^.lar .rihunal ; .h.^o are .ho very wnr. s ol h.s .lon.an.l :
..lnskYour(irucoto..ausoto ho ropair.a .honmtorial .huuagc whu h has hoon.,lono .no
In- .ho uniast i>.to.Ton.ion of ihe C.'.'.s in tho ,.al,,i. an,l oat of .he i-ulpU, that ,s to say
t', oaa.so to be resto.e,! to .no .ny sea. in the F.Moral Farliamc.,. ; or .1 \ our (.raoo .s not
i„ a position to eanse the immense wron,,^ whhh has boon ,h...o n.e by .hoso tu.es to bo
re,.ai.'od th.lt you woul.l he i^loase,! to allow .no .o eile those sa.no ( n.-es beo..o .i < v il
7:50 . ilmnal who will he in a poJ.ion to Uo me .ittstiee." Thus ^■'^^'f^y^f'^^^'^^fy;;^
Uefo.o the whole country when ho says that he asUoU f.-o.n tho A.chb.shop not the u n-
dem..ation oi tho accused Cures but u regular trihanal whc-o he .n.^^hl prodnoo the ev „ C. c
of hiswi..K..sesor plea I his cause. Ki.'st lie: 1'. T.-emblay in h.s complanU nsUed the
Archbishop for so-uethin- else than that which ho now says ho asked h..n to.-.
lli« Lordship tho A.chbislu.p dei«..ed to take cogHimnco of the ca.iso which Mr.
Tremhhiy laid befuro his tribu..al. The con.i.lui.il of the latter was sui,po.-tod by a K.y.U
number of atfid.wits. (If I choso .0 enter ..pon these .>t!idavits in dctad n.,,ht a.,.nso tho
public by son>e vo.-y a.nusin.u correspondence, but 1 h.tve no. l>me. Mr ••cnblay ho. .0
tells ,.s hat nil those, loou.nen.s have been sent to Hon.o ; it is inc.-od.ble) ; tlu.s the A.-ch-
740 S. 1^1". accepte.1 tho task of takin, co,ni.a.u.o hin.solf of Mr. Tro.nblay s con.pla,.
^ a .•.. lar triU..,..! 1 as bee.. g.-a..ted him. Could the.-e bo a .no.-e .-ognlar tr.bu.u.l than
the a!' hbishop in person V Connoquently, second lio of Mr. Tromblay : a regular tr.bunal
was granted to hi.n.
His Lordship A.rhbishop Taschore.m conducted tho whole of that .imiir with tho
l„horiou.s pa.io.u.o he is k.,ow.. to possess, .vith the most minute p.-ecau..ons. op,es ot .he
„„„„,,•„„ of l>. Tre.nblav a.i.i ol all the a.Hdavi.s p.'oduced by In.n wo.-o sunt 1,3 ll.s Lord-
pi A. -ch bishop hi..-,selfto each of the ("u.-es accused with orde.-s to rep y tothem^
d. "those Cu-J had to controvert those a.Hdavits of P. T..n,blay by co,...tor affi.lav,t«
" d 1,V the ma.s of their parishoners. Further each Cu.6 accon,pan,ed that co..n.or
- . , Sec bv lo,.^ men.orials to 'ex plain and condonu. his ovidcco, to confute tho usacrt.ons
'■•' :^'n'n.bl.v ^,d to iusti.y hi.nilf against .he i;dsehoods wldch had eon ...von.od a^^^
,; \ ,,„.H U.ink i ox.ie.-u.e when I state that the .,>.al of thcso-hcumonts .nns e
:^,.ed son,e hundreds ot>ages. His Lordship the Archbishop aga.n ' -^'-' «
co«..izanco in po.-.son of all those Ion, a..d tireso.no docun,onts. Copu. 0' ""."'- -/"^
' ^V.A./«n. »W .ere ro.un.uncU.J ^o P. Tr.,Muj . T us he a,a.n ..tter« a,>
Lsllent lie when he says: •• After h..vin, waited for a lo.„ tune .or a .-eply.
M.. Trcnblav cortainlv received all those docu.nents because he sent into all cor..ors
of the « un V tro«h'copios (and it is k.unvn that he does not n.u.ilato ..> copy.ng) of ce.-
::;:';r:rthe papd m ie.nco, sent in by the cures w.dch^;i.ht ^^^^J^^^
-- ;^ tsri:=:=^^^ - Lrr Evidence was'... pro-
sonted under the favor of a solora.i doclarat.oii.
I
01
His rj(ii'.|H|il|i llio Ai'i'liliisliop wuN a;,'!iiii |iloii»i"l, )^i'iiciMU-<ly l«i niiiiply with liis
ivtjiU'hl, Mini hy liii onlciN iIid-hi iIciciimioiiIm wt'io iiiailu rc/^iiliir.
Tliiil iiii|uiry war* initilo in wrilin^', ami all iIioiIimuiuciiIs woro •<i>nl liy [losi. When
ills coiixidun-il tliul tliu mail tiikos ivvtj dayi* to ruacli llio exlromily ot ilic I'Diiiity, ainl
that forlaiii lucaliiii's only roi'i'ivu iwci iir tlirno mails a wcok ; wlioii it Ih ('(iiisiilen^il liuw
MiiU'li timi! till! atciir^od hail In ."iioiiil iiio|iariii,i; ihoir iiriMd, in nooiij^ ilio iicrnoii.-* who
hail ilupoHud M^aiiiil Ihom, in citiisin;^ iiuw utti lavitM lo Ix) proparuil, itml in <'i>inmnin(»ling
yytl Movoral limi'.i wilh the Archlpiiliui) ; wln-n it is I'lmsiilori'il that Jl. li. tho Anliliishi»i> hud
to stady a'l ihusu ilucamunlr. Iiini-«ir, tlial tho M'cri'lain'> ul Mis lidrdsliiji lia<l to lin.l limo
in Iho midst of other onj^aj^nmunts to copy tho wholo of I hem in order to commnnieato
I'on'ecl eo])ios of tlium to .\li'. Tremhlay, there is no nioand for surprise llial sueli (III
eiiipiiry .slioaid have lasted as Ion;; as ihi'ee months.
Who then (onid restrain his indignaiion at tho eoarsoness with whieli I*. Tromlilay
insulin tho Arehhisiiop, who has expended so many hours in sueh tirosomo labor, so many
ni^ht-s, to try this eaiiso and to study it tlioroiii;lily, an>l to wliom hu dares to say in liio
fueo of the country, to nidiijkUn >hn /tiihlii: : ■' After liavin;j; waited for a loiijj tinio, Ac."
No. I'. Tremhiay Uiiows hoiter ihan any hody el.■^o I hat aP tho uucusalion4 which ho
7S(J preforrinl a^^ainst ijio cures of Chariovoi.\ are false, lie al.so know.s liiat a ir-iju/ar trihiuiul,
coiistitutoil as ii iia.s always heeii in tho uountry was granle<l to him. lie knows also that
the enliiety o( tho proof adduced liy those ^cures whom ho accused, is crushin;; as against
him lie knou-. also ihal that eiiciiiiry is now compioie, and ilial His iiordship the Arch-
hi^hnp was on the j)o nt of [)ronouiiciiig jiidgmont in thai alfair. liul tho severity, benig-
nant a" it wa-, however, wilh which His Lordship brandeil his ;ouduet in tho iittiiir of tho
letters made him eiiii ken-hearted in respurt of thii other matter, and ho wished simply
til avoid a condemiKiiiiii. To that end il was iiecessai'y lo insult tho Archl)isho|i publiily
to ac( uso liim of injustice, Ac: !:•• matter. If the clergy of a county must be brandeil, il'
an Archbi^hoji must be caliiinnialed lictbn- his llock, it is ol' little conseiiuence; tho sacri-
7'.l() lict' is not loo great to r-ecure a seal in parliament lo F. 'I'lomblay, to soctn'o to the county
the brilliancy and the services of that great man.
Hut MOW why does .Mr. Trcmbla^' iijipual to liome? Does he imagine llnil bis
cause by going to lioine will become more just ? 'J'hai his documents by traversing iho
ocean will become more veracious? No; he is perfectly e>nvincod of the contrary; and
he hiiiiM'lf publiidy avows the vile motive vsiiicii led liim to adopt thai determination, lie
>ays; •• I ha e fniiikhi (!) e.\|daiued what I beliove to lie the Irulli for my /(.)(///• and lor
/,/(/ (li'fi'ii,;- beloro the electors in the coming election iiial, which will »oon take place I
linpc in the Count}' of < 'jiarlevoi.x." The wolt Ii:m -liown the tips ■ ' M.s ear.-. Ho is pro-
|iaring lor a new ele(ti)ral struggle. 1". Trcmblay is now contc--i the election of llu!
Hon. Mr liangevin ; and drawing liii usual iutercm'es, he has cnMcludcd in his own mind
Sdl) thiit tic Courts cannot dootherwisi' than anmil it. In the even! of his not being himself
disijualilied at tho close of those contestations he c.)uiiIh upmi again coming lo impose his
piet ions services u]ion the county. I!ut it' by iiiislitrtune llie Archbishop had condemned
him in that unjust w.ar against the clergy of the courily no meaii< would exist for him by
which bo could enter into the struggle. Thereloie, condemmition had lo be preveule.d by
a|)|)oaling to Home. In that way he will gain time — thai audacious act will uwiiken his
apai belie p.irtizans who began lo slumber. At Home, perhaps, that long enquiry will b6
- •Wi liiM murth uii W W t f w Wi* *
— "^M
•>■}
lefoimiU'iK'tiil. Ai Ml gi'oal ii iliiliiiH'o iliinj,'t will, |m'i 1i;i|)h, liii;,'i,'(il inii in f,'i'o;4U'r
k'liKili, and iliiriiij,' Unit limo it' u iii>\v nli'iiion corilcst nliuuld <wci\i; I' Truiiilil.iy miylit,
pi'iliapH, run tt uhaiicu ol' not lioiiiK I'lii^licl l.y tlic wai like iIuiihIi'iIk.IIh <,I Mr. I.mii;:.^ in,
hlO wliii-h ho loarN w) laortully. If you aiM to ihi.s inonllnatu umliiiiou ol' r. 'i'rornliliiy the
holifilutioii ot hi:« liitlmufn rrii'tiils, who lioniimini,' I" I'olluve hy iliut (»rhonriii>? thoi.iHolvox,
Huy KO, tliut lliuir l.ihciali'sni nii^'ht imlor 1 l« ino ilii:iu;of"ii^, "i^li lo olilain u dctihito
ilfi'iarulioii tVoMi tho Tope, at tlii) ox|)i(iisf of I'. Tioiiil'luy, yoi^ will huvo (ho iniNWor lo
Ihi' (iiifstioii : Why doo.s Mr. Troiiihlay >,'o to |{oiiic
"I'i
I'll, .Mr. Tromhliiy! wl olV for the Ki.Tiial Ciiy, w.
ill i;
illow \ on lliitlmr,
Hond yoar diM'unicnts; wo will hvu
I onr-i. Wo will aci'oniiiany tht-niwilli iho ■•|i('i fli of
wrilin^^M of .Miv (i.'dt. &c.
f^i'aimdo calk'd tln^ liaidv-
'roti'.-<lanl Ijc:
riMinl !■'. vonr
.Mr. Iluntinirdoii, (l.c pro^rammo ol lh>
\Vc will aiToiii|iany all that with an anilicniic at
hcyud oatii, with thu fdilymg wrilinf,"* which you puMi-hod in tho HvoMoniont in 1.^72,
t tho cures ot the ,Sii;;iioiniy, addiiij,' Ihcrolo i ,ipioH of tho in>ulliiij,' letters which you
S"2() n^'ainN
niaKo you at
havojusl published aj,'ainHl tho Aroliliisliop of (iuol)oc. In h word, wo will
vanlajjoonsly k-nown at Itonic, wo proniiso you. Vou know that I'opo I'ius W docs not
joUo vith Lilu'rals, wo can thcreforo proniiso you tifio i'.iiif,'s.
iiiil
can It ho ininjii
II. I that in the ovont ol '.i,- iloly Fathor iiinisolf rol'usiiijr to
Iron.l to tho licniand of !'. 'rrcnihlay, hy dolivorin;,' over a certain number <d' priost.s to tho
t he inia^^inoil I say tiiat !'. 'rroiuhlay will he salislied with tho decision
secular arm ; c:in i
,'hi(di ho /.jnoi lo Homo to sock ? Those who know him well allirm that ho will not. Thoro
jf^ain ho will consider himself a victim of tho injustice of his ,» rchl'ish.)' , a victim of tho
.nju^ticeof his ri/re. Hosides his master, the IJltraino.ituinr sa,-- him>olf in his wriiiny,
y30 while advising' an appeal to tho I'opo, that no bishop, n )t con the I'opo, can com-
pel him o volo aijamsl 1ih poi
loas in piditics; if in any caso tho I'opo prononnoos
up >i
that
ouostion I
t is alreadv dc.idod that it shall bo said : the I'ofio went too f.ir; lio
xceoded Iho limits in his answer; he was not askc 1 thai; by what ri^'htdoes ho cone ami
i.\ himself U|) in the details of our politic.-.' and other trash of tho same kind.
1 conclude by slatini; iliai in my opinioi
.Mr
,'i'cmblay in piiblishini; tno hhick-
iimrdisms vfhich he has |U:
t ultero 1 a.;aiMsl His Lor.lship ihe .Vroliliishop, fully uislitied
tho clorf,'y of (!harlevoi.\ for haviuL,' intorfcrt
n 'liO last clocliou to provenl h ni Iron:
btainini; tho i)ost to which he so eagerly a-pires. Ills revolt a,i,'ainsl the Archbishop
complolos his ruin in ih
nion (d tho public, ami there will be no moans left for him in
.'slO
the future by which lie may ailciiiiit !o seek tbo voUm of the electors in any cotmly,
Thatdsing you lor your kindness,
I remain,
Sir,
Your very obedienl servant.
A CUUE OV CII.VULHV'OIX.
56
8->l)
S60
COUNTY OF CHARLKVOIX.
Extract from the Statement of Eepenscs incurred in the name of Hon
Langevin, 0. B., at the Charlevoix Election.
Expenses incurrcJ in visiting tlio County between the 30th Dec.
1875 and the 4th January, 187li ^ 00
Carters to convene meetings, &c -1^ ^^
Telegraphing ^'^^ ^^
House hire... 1^ 38
Deposit with tlio Jielurning OlHcer 50 00
Board anil journeys paid to Arscno Siinard, .lude Hiverin, Isinaol
Lavoie, Lapiorre, Ali'red Filion, Theopiiile Siinard HTl 43
Accounts of P. Valloo, A. Cote, Isidore Holieau and J. Lepage 44 00
Misecilineous ' ^^
Account of A. .rrcmWay '7*^ "^^
" J, Poitras, carter ('•■i 00
" Josepli Bigaoncttf, do 18 00
" Alexis Dciisle 28 00
" O. Montreuil '*^ 00
81,088 6?.
//. L
[There is also among the papers a copy of the above with the following adilition
Ihei'eto
'(Signed)
J. ISRAEL TARTi:,
" Agent.
870
"True Copy,
"CHAS. DU13ERGKR,
Returning Officer."]
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II-DEFENDANTS EXlilBrrS.
1 Dupliiration ol
Lilt of Jhfenihmt't .Kchibits.
Johnny l)esl,iens iindor his private signature, 'l><\\x Fel.ruary, 1870
I exhibit No, 1, au.l iiroducod with tho I'viaoiu'c of .lolmiiy Desbi
St. Kidoio, inarko*
2 Summary
the lt;th January. 187C, marked exhibit No. 2, anil prod
las Iremiday, Luc Sinuird, Ace.
ens.
of tho sermon o
I' the (Jure .Sirois, t'ure o
if Haie .St. I'aul, delivered on
sd wilh the ovidoneo of Vinees-
;} \umljor of the newspaper '' U Cand-llm,' iioanng da
ite "th January, 187<I
l^SO containing an extract
fromaspee(h of .Mr. Huntington, proilueed with the deposition of
Rev. Frs. Oinii-Mar.-!, maiked cxhi
bit N'(
4 The pastoral letter of the Hisliops of tl
ic I'lcclesi
astical Province of <iuoliec, pro-
duced with the evidence o
Defendant.
if the said Ilev. I'rs. Cirui Mar^, and marke.
ked exhibit Xo. 4 of tho
Tile circular of the I5ishops of the Keelo.Masliral l'rovinc(
! of (iuohec to tiio clergy
if t
he said Province, 22 September, 1875, jin
luccd with the deposition of the .said Ilov
l'"rs. (,'inii,Mars, and marked exhibit .\.
(; Ace<mnt of the sums i)aid to various ci
riers who conveyed the sjieakers
i>f th
DefeniJanl, itc, markei
1 exhibit No. 0, and produced with the depoMt
if J. Israel Tarte,
S'.llt Ksiiuirc.
Account of the operator a
t KbouleMionts for telegraphing, tnarki
d exhiliil Xo. 7.
produced with the ilepo:
ition of J. Israel Tarte, Ksi|uirc.
S Account for telegrams paid .to the telegraph oporatoi
at Haie St. Paul, marked
exhibit Xo. 8, and pi
luceil with the deposition of J. Israel Tarte, Hsquiro.
!t Account of the sums pai
d bv the agent tor house hire, inarki
\i\ exhibit Xo. !•,
iiii| jiroiuicci
with
the deposition of J. Israel Tarte, Hs(|iiir(
10 A<eount of sums paii
I tor board to .Mrs. Widow Uiverin, marked exhibit Xo. ID,
:ind 1
I produced with th.e deposition of J. Israel Tarte, Ks(iuirc.
11 Account of Thoop
Siniard tor the boani of the speakers of the Dolondaiit,
i.tlKI &c., marke<l exhibit No. 11, and produce
d with the deposition of J. I-vael Tarte, Hs(^uire.
12 Account
)f the jiersonal expenses of the Defendant in i
- cause, marked exiii
ibit
No. 12, and pi
luced as intended to form part of the deiwsitioii of the said Defendant,
lieaniu
date ;!rd July, 187«, and attaclie.1 to the sai<l dcj
position.
Ui. .Vtlidavit ot
t!ie Dcfenduiit attacheil to his deiiosition of 3rd July, 187*1
duced as forming part tliereot, and markci
Mai.u.vie, llith September, 187t!.
J. S. PKUIJAULT,
Counsfl.
I exhibit No. 13 of the Defendant.
II. CYlllAS PKLLKTIHH,
Attorney for Defendant.
,
i.
i
58
Def.'mla.it'H K.hihH No. \,Jileil at the emiuete this \tli Scpteuiher, 187(i. DMnra-
gi Q tiim of Johnny Dexbiens.
I Jolinny De.l.ions, uiHler.iK.icl i\mm'v of IJiiie Dos IJocl.ovs, ccrtiCy to your Lonl-
ship an.l am roa.ly t- I'-vo ll.at the C.ro of St. Sin.eon, the Hcv. Francois Cinq-Mars, dul
no. speak to .no urp.,iiurs or ot ..Ic.lion ma-tors exoopl on the 20li. January at lus pardon-
age in j.resence of Francois I5crt;en.n aiM William Savanl.
2Hth Fehniary, ISTO, St. Ficlulo.
JOHNNYS, DKSIUFNS.
Witnesses, ( Iv W. TIU'.MHLAV, Priest
"( JOHN SAVAKl).
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•fendarfs l-lA.hU So 2. ymdiu^ul .,t Kn^n.t.. -htnuarn HIM, UTfi,
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ANMASIS C»F A SKRMON l!V -M H. SlRolS, I'RIKST AN!^ CURB.
Notice pro.vc,lin- iro.n ti,c pastoral Idler the yvmndmmni) of our Lonls tho
Mishops. toheL'iven.on.yparishoncrson.heSahhath heforc the votinfr. tho 10th day
of January, l.STti.
My JJUKTllF.KN :
U i.s with sorrow and sii.lness that I see myself under the necessity
„,• „„|,jn.. you acinainted with tho grief I e.xperienee ut thi.s .noment, with respect
to certain light and disrespectful expressions whi.h several of you are allowing yourselves
to utter agahist our Bishops, their pastoral letter ^uy.nd.n,enl) a.id against the clergy ^
Lm luu 1 ought no,, in those days of excitement, to lift up n.y voice to give hese
M3U " ".ians to uirlersiand how wrong they are in speaking in that manner, and that 1 a.u
■ astoni.shed to see them criticise to-day those whom they respecte.1 yesterday.
And indeed. I.rether.., I have just tinished, thi^ week, , lie collection of the infant
I ns .1,0 ,',isto,-al visit Kvo.-ywhe.-e 1 have been .-eceived as ,ho .•cprosenlat.ve ot our
:;^:' . h r h ^.od chUdre.,, us a pastor .,• his flock. Hverywhere I have been
t; ';, ed with respect, hocause your tai.h has ...ade you see, i.. .he poison o, your pastor,
Ue whl^'wriuerly Las going through the villages and towns to hlo.s thorn and do them
good.
While thanki.ig vou for the Uin.l reception which you have given me, I ca...iot re-
IVain fn.m expressing to you how grieved 1 a.n with the u..chrisl,a.. .na.>ner with which
.,40 o " re!; •::;: ^. n. of the pnests,. our days l.ow can we -H;';" ' ;; -l-P-
and u. ius cri.icis.ns which in those days, seve,-al of you are makwig agai.iM the I ope, ho
' and tie Friests? Ah ! h.^ethern, 1 understa.id it, you h.ivo listened to the speeches
1; ;:;':;;; .ne! wL. have come fro... afar to put you on your guard agair^st the clergy, to utter
a thousa..d falsehoods a..d a Ihousa.id calu...nios.
Hewai'e
b,-ethern, they are false prophets, ravening wolves who ".me to
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raise a clistiirbaiicc in tiio llocii, wiio coino id toll you liial tlio l'.ii>e, tlio Hislioin an. I llio
Clorgy huvo notliiiig to do with politics. Bowaro of tiieir pervoroo toacl>ing«i ! tliey want
to wc'liiilo tlio I'riestH in tlio cliurcli ami tlio vostry in onlor to Muccceil iiottor in tlioir
unclii-islian woric ; v iiidi is Id Mi'atter ami divide I ho lluck of Ju.sus Chri.^l.
!)ijO Thuso i'al.so |)ro|)hotH will tell yi>u that the jn'iosts i;o too far in tiio tiino of electimin,
hecaiiHO t lu'y aro afraid of losing thoir rights and tiieir tilhen. Yes, lirethern, we can never
go too fai' in deforiiling the rights of ti'iith,
The I'liesls must I'laini their rights and resist all those who work unjustly to de-
prive them of them. Jjet them deprive us of tlie divine right of collecting tithes and
otferings, and the priests will still protest against khat oncrouehmenl upon their most
sacred rights. If an enterprise so criminal was to succeed, ilo not holiovo, my brethorn,
that you would lie exempted from conlriiiuling to the support of the clergy. No ; a iioavy
taxation would weigh upon you in orler to furnish the (lovernnient the means to support
your Pastors.
i|(',() I'erliaps our means of living would ho lessened, but we would liave only to deplore
the blindness ol those who would have wished to cut otV the source ot good works and
(diarity.
Whatever may be done to violate the rights of justice and of truth, the bishops and
the priests will draw their raid<s do -or in order to protest and contend against ;iny law
that may tend to destroy them.
I, for one, my bi'ethren, would be ready to sheil my blood, to see mud thrown in
tny face, in<)i\lcr to |)roleet the immutable privilogos of truth, of which we priests are the
born defenders, as well as the rights conferred upon the Cliurch and her ministers by her
<livine founder.
(|-<i (For a few minutes past a young girl whoin my preilecessor had alreauy rebuk'cd tor
some reason was taking the liberty of laughing and disturbing tho>e who surrounded her ; then
1 said to her: my daughter, remain quiet, I preach hero for everybody, lor you as well iis
for the others.)
Allow me, brethorn, to show j-ou the inconsistenc}- of the expression of some of you,
with their general conduct. Aro they sick ? Is oncof their an im;ds sick ? Have they any ditli-
i ully ? thov come immediately to ask the jiriest for remedies and advice, 1 hey have a full con-
tidence then ; and how is it that in the time of an election these very same christians
speak ill of the priests, refuse them the right and competenc}- to eidightcn and counsel
them in a matter of the highest importance, such us the importance of giving a vote.
USO Know yo well that ono day (iod shall ask you to give an account of it before his formidable
tribunal. Is it not true that on your doath-bod you would reproach your.solves bitterly if
your conscience .shoul<l upbraid you for having contributed, by your vote, to the election of
men who wish to separate the Church from the State, and who are working to destroy the
confidence which you are to have in the priest?
Vou greiitly need to opeu your eyes, my brethren, on the abyss of evils in wldoh
the partisans of C^iilholic Liberalism would throw you. Listen attentively to the salutary
teachirgs given by our bishops in thoir pastoral letter {muiideiueiU) upon the tendencies of
the self-sty leJ Catholic Liberal party.
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lioinairi (iiinly iitlaclio.l . > tlio Cliiircli, to lior legitiinalo imnlorH, iiiul Iv as.surucl lliat
•I'M I ydu will not f^o wi-onjj;.
Shut your oars to tlio .lisordoretl Npoochcs with which tlioy ondeavour to iminws
you in onicr' to load you to shaiio oil' tho yoi<.' ol ..lu'dien "o an.l of HuhniissivonoHS to the
principles A'l.ich make tho hai)|.in."ss hoth of in.lividnals and sociolio-.
Oiircoiintry does not count yd many yuar. of existence, and yet it is already ui;!-
tutcl by the had doctrines and tho principles which always load a nation to its ruin and fall.
lich.dd, niy I'icihren, ii,)w tiio revolution ol 'S'.t was prepared in Franco? It did
not hreuk out Huddenly : the perverse men wl... wore the cause of it were very carei'ul not
tosavoponlv: •• Down with the I'opel Down with the hisiiops an.l the priests! No! for
the catholic 'spirit of the elder dauj,'hter of the church would have revolted; they hejran l.y
KMIO whi-periiiK in the ears .>f the inhabitants of the cities, diBtrust tor tho cler^'y, nn.l tho
principles of insubordination. They >et forth the priest as a beiiiK K'-^-^-'ly "' "'""«y :"'i»
authority, as an obstacle to the profjress of sciences and arts. They wished to j;et rid ot
tho.se priots who were opiiosiiif,' themselves to the invasion of rationalism, malcriahsin
and Libeiali>m. During a certain period, Keason had her temples and l.or altars.
The j;angrone of those errors boj^an to lay bold of the cities of France, thence to
reach the Tr vin.'es and the country ; ibeti, when the French nation was imiKied with
th.'se errors when they (lartel with tho k-iliniato pastors of roii'jion, wlien ihcy refused
t(. li.ten to the teachinj^s .,t the church, then tho revolution of '89 broUo f..rth and the
French nation imderslood, but too late, that it had been deceived. At the rate at wl,i. b
Kill) things are^oin- in Cana.la, it is to be feared that the same .at.ses will pro luce the xonc
ellKas Whosoever separates himself from the Holy Church cannot have the true Lite.
Whosoever l,,,,. a h,u„l on (toarh* a) tho church and her ministers, .always comes to a Lad
end Mehold'ihal j,'reat Fniperor, who, during a < erlain time, o.cupie.l the most beaut ilul
throne in the world; who, by the rumor ol Ids victories, cau.sed the wi.olo of Kurope to
tremble Napoleon 1, tilled with pride, wishes to comj.el tho church to approve ot his
itiv.uvo- but the church, tbrou-h her Head, is satisfied with rcplyiMg to hin, : ■• .V.,,,
,„Hm,J,^" wo cannot! Napoleon will send Pius Vll t.> the pris,.n of Fontainobleau,
but (iod look care of his vicar on tho day when IMus Vll came out of Ins piis,.n.
Napoleon the 1 lUMsoner in his turn, went to die on an island in the middle of the
The church of <iod has n.) army to defend her rigbls, but she has an invincible
moral resistance and the arm of her divine founder.
I(l2(t ocean
army
Turn your eyes toward (iermanv ! There, also. Liberalism, free thinkin-, exercise
their destrucUverava-es. They would wish to force truth to yiel.l to error, justice K,
iniuslice, but without success; therefore we see the Hishops and tho priost.s fearless in
siieaking the truth, in aflirmiuK it and in opposin- an eneri,'etic resistance to the encroach-
ments of iniustice and of the violation of right. The clergy of Germany is persecuted
hunte.1, exil'e^l; but, lot us wail, they struggle for a holy cause, and God will know well
how to deliver them, and lake vengeance of tho.se who laid hands on his (dirists. n Hits
„K,ment, (Jermany presents, in.leed, the spectacle of the first centuries of the church ;
1(130 its governors, by their implacable persecutions; tho clergy, by the hrmnosB of their faith
and their courage in defending the interests of truth. Tho blast of the evil doctrines has
passe<l over that country, and the doctors of Liberalism have succeedei in vvagit.g a war
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to ,U.ml, will, all llmt \mr ll.« umw ..(' ininiHt«.-« of il.o llnly Cl.urcl.. TlaToloro t ... .lay
n..l .li«tanl vvl>.,n (;u.IhI.«11 striU- tl.o ^roul l.h.w wl.i.'l. i^ to .l.ow (ieriMuny, thai m
UM ing it«t.|f IVon. ll.o inu.d.un'h, sl>o has lin.n.l il.o ouum uf Imt .loath.
F„ryou, l.rethorn, Im.mI your.elvo. tu ih.< Holy <"hunh, to th. salutary (o:u-hin«.
whirl, >ho ^ivos you ihro.i^'h ih.' voh-e of her paHlor,, il you winh lo o ,po the woo. which
,1,0 laUo propho.' of our ,hu> ,uv,,an, for us. You. liMeu to iho.o to who.n .1 has l.oon
sai.l: '..io v.M.ml lead, all nation..- A. h-n^ a. you vvill romau, .lo, ,K, .., iho.n; tear
n..l to orr. Mo .looplv Immmo.ko.I with the truth, m,. forth in th.. la.t ,ms.on.l loiter , .„.«.
,/,,,, »0 .-t .."V liiM..,,:^ ..n Iho (^m,tituthm of thot'hur.h,.m tnulmli.. L.lK.almn,, an.lon the
otfuo whioh tho . h.rvT is t.. ful.ill in tho tin.e ol' ..l-'ti-M... Your chio. ,.as,..r.s utvo no
,„u,lo this paM.H-al ( ,ule l-r tho r..ito.l Stuto-, hul lor iho 'nniu..- ..I (iuohoo lho>
.lo not wish to warn youaKains. ,,hanto„ l.ul. i,„loo,l, a«a,nst L,l.oral.s>u an.l Hs par i^.ns;
„,,„, .lo n..t liHton t.. th..>o who loll y.m u.a. li, ro .- n.. I.i .ral.sn. ... ouro.....,uy, thm .he
na.,o,..l ^„.„„/.».«M .-.n.loin.uuj,' a.„l .lo..o..no,n« it ha. no n«l,t to hc^ucl . •oause tho^e
wl.oa,olhoau.h.,.. of i. ( I.il.oraliM,,) .h. n..t .'xiM ,n ..ur oounfy. V.u shall .co. ..on
1 „vi.., outw.o.l a,.,.oa.a,,..o. ..f l.i..y a...l roli.no,. :,l!ow ,h..o,..lvos ,.H,o t
.Loo„..M., hy;i.o.lo.oi.ful wo.-.U..r.ho.o..,,o,.tra.l...li.. L.t-.l. .-u iu.ow .n what
, .. „or ,;e;o..,o„t .ou...i his way into :l.e tor.ostrial pa..a,l,>.., w,th what ou..,u.., ho
uo..oo,U.,lino..,vi„oi..K I.;vo.l.a,M.e>l.,.ul,l..ot.lio, ....r A.lan. o.thor hy ,.-...« ol .ho
:; ,, i.lon fruit, v.... all U.,..w whai .....U .la.o; ,ho >or,..., wa. tho cau. .-U he .n..-
,,H....es .ha. a.-o woi,hi.., ..pon u-. 1-. .1h-> o •--- j ''''7'' '' '''^j. , y"''' ',, ^
,„„1 it.wav i...,. tho pa,Mai.o ,.f tho .l.ur.l. to loa.l hor -h, l.v„ I., lall. .. I -nj
L.l...r„ our Hish..ps tolU us that U is no lonf,^er por..utte.l t., I.o oo...o,ont.ously a ta.l.ol.o
I„bo,al ,' ho .a.on.l ..ovor t.. taslo tho lV..i. of tl.o tro,' Catl.olio J..ho.'al.
1, i. hv its faith, its attaoh.ue... U> s.mn.l .h-t-inos. l.y its u..i..n ... the .ioi^^y. .h.r
,,„,,,.„,,,. li pn.p...v.l a.,U g.-ow., up ....til ....w , .hall i .•o,„i..uo i.. that p.u.h .n v.ow
olooanLfollIu-.s whioh oorlainn.u.. arc maki... .1. -hat .....on .' ,n„a,o tho
; 1 of fa.holio hola..,l whi..l.. in spito of o.uol p. . --. ,„„., ha. k hy .- .s,,,^
ulno. ,i;>Th. wi'h tl.o aha,-, suoh is, ...y bro.o.o.,. what ......t .o,.,lora naMo..
iiivi.ioihio.
Uo.,,00. n.v h.'o.l..-en, .!..• ll„ly llio.a.xhy of tho Chu.vh, that i., .ho Popo, our
' ' ' . A. i,,i,,r >w I Hhall re.naii. in .oininiiiuoii w.th ...y
r;:;r r^rirz^ X^i ;:.\hri!un„ .io,..ri..o, y., .o ..-.y a.,a
'to. am i ro vouv lo,iti.nn,e pa....r. a,.,l c so.p,o...ly to onli.l.ten, .ns.n.et
1 von- if 'vou closi.i.o .av W0..1, y..u .lospi.o tl.o wo.'.l ..I y.-ur l{.sh..p,
'•f T: -a. n h ly the w.,ni of .n.r Lonl who hath so,.. ..s. Y..u will
"1" it- • ■• Y..: toCn" yo.; havo your ow.. politioal party, a...|, tho.-Oore, yo.. oan-
porl.ap. .a> , ^ f „„i.,ion." My brethren, if you believo H.o .KMla.-atio,.s ol tho
T """ '!7;;. m iTno ' w will you believe .no if 1 cloohuo to y„u that 1 havo ..o
X^n^tKy ? v:::. tlUvo ...o, ; have\.o ,,..y but that of go.,.l pri-.oiplos. 1 have .,o
politics but .1.0.. ^"'n-. - and dofonding then.
You will mw a.uu. ^i«t how do you explain that ? The.-o a.-o .espoctahlc p,-iosiH
in ouobccwbo have w. ,.to.. letter. .tati,.g that the priests ho.-e a.-o m.s.aKcn an.l ..> too
..^ihS " l-'i-ts liKo you." My b.-othr, „ whatever these pr.est. m.vy «ay. I w.ll say
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to you Tlu-v nro n..l y.-nr l.-K'Himulo ,,aHtorH, llicy lu.vo i,., ...in , to ...lv.... u,..l -luvct
v.... I know, tl.»t i.. U.iH ,..o.,a-nl, l«ttor« >in^ .•inMilXo,! ,m,iH..ti,.K to l.iivu Injon w.-iilon
|„<0 by- |..ic.tH in (i.tube.. I -Lull fall tl.ut. i...t only umluo inllnonco. 1..' ^^o in.i.>o,H..- ....I.o-
...'...^' inlliU'..o, If wo ...toil 1.. tho M,m. n..i..M.,.' who., olc •.„ .,,o I..U...K 1>1.ko ,.,
tiliul.." Wf .oul.l 1.0 loM, .....1 will. i-oUM.n, tl.ai it i. i.oi our bus.
Do vou Hoo. n.y l.i-oil..o.., how iho ,..io-t Ih roHporto-l l-y .o.u.in i.o.'m.nH? Tl.oy uro
not atVai.rio oo.ni.romlHo him by ,,ubli.l.i..« i-nvuio lotto.'. Do you .. .t «eo ti..il tho
.lo.i;;., ofC.itl.olio Llbo.uliH..l is, iu.loo.l, to labo.- to b.vak tho bo...l which un.lo. iho .oo.u -
boi-. of tho Holy ("hUl'oli.
J, , .,,,00 ...o,-o, b,.othfo.., >.t tho i,icl..,o whiob ha. boo., «^l>h.i..o(l to n. ,b,.'i..-tl.e
oxoffi.e« oi ,ho |,.biU.o! That pioluiv .op.o.ont. to uh tl.« oonntitutio.. a...l tho u...ty ot
„„. ,.|„„vhi 1 .m. Koi..« to oN,.hm. it to you ..^ai... <.ivo >..o you.- attc.t.o... h.'.t you
, , Mvao...... M.i.l aho.u-t; it i. tho houH ol ..».■ I.0..I ,lyi..K upon tho o.-osh. Two oh......
^'^■'^\^,..,,,, ,,,,„, 0,. ho,ui of ou.' l,o.-,l, a.,.| ...-o p.iuK' to pa-s th.-o..Kh tho .,avo-l.ox ollho
W.ool whioh vou M.O. ThotH>l ol.ai.. ,ep.oso..tsthe...'tiolo.sofla,th: tho2...ltho..poMoho
8U.'oo-M..,. t.o... St. l'oto.Miown to Pius IX. I...,U at tho whool ..ow ; tho ..uvo-Ikix (tho
co..t.o) is tho 1-opo; .!..■ h,.';;o spokos a.'o tho H,.hop., tl.oliltl« onos tho p.Mo.ts havi.,- tho
cai'o of Iho pui'i^l.os Iho.i tho follooH n.v iho faithful.
'p,,, |.„,,, |,,,..K tho K.val .10.K..' ol tho tiiilh, oa....ol ^o ovo.-ywho.o to proa.!, il ; ho
......I. tho l!i>hop., «ho, i,. thoi.' i...n, M..,.l Iho I'lMOHtrt to u....ounco it to ll.o by'l''"'; "
o,„. .• thai a whool >ho..l.l work woll, il n...«l havo a-.,ave, 1 ox, Hpoko» a.,.1 follows 1 al,o
,wav tho I'opo, thai is, M.pposc tho o.iso of his .lioi..j,' or ..o lo-.^or toaohu.f; tho lr..th.
, ,, ,^ whi^h is i.npo.Mblo, thou tho nave box falls to pieooM if iho Bi^l.opn .1,. not hoar tho
I'"" i.,,„,thontl.ola,xoHpok..,a.'ofalli..j,s if tho p.'io.ls ,h. ..ol hour iho H..hopH, tho.. iho
litllo spokos disappear also, and tii.ully.ii tho faithlul .h I hoar ihoir pr.ost, tho.. tho
iHluos a.'o .lisiui..toa ai..l ll.o working of tho wheol booomo.s a., i.nposs.b.l.ly. ri.u., ...y
|„vihi-o.., wouM tho Holy hio....ol,y of iho Cl.u.rh of .Iom., Christ bo b,-okon, .1 tho
pii,„'iplos whiou teal loco,..p.'oiniso that u..io.. suoooo.lo.l ... provail...«.
().,>.e n.o.v the.., b.'oth.'o.., bowaro .,l tl.o>o li.lso prophets who wish to bri.i
|,..,woon vou nnci your lojrili.uato pasio.-s! Do ..ol liston to tl.oir luUol.o.
,.,,,„„Mio:. Oboy tho Vioar .,f .h-sus Ch.Msl oo.„le.....inK Cathohc L.bo.'ahsn, - .bo. l.o. 00 to
„ur Hisbops who havo poi.>ioa out to ..s its to.,aor,.oss, obo,lio..oo to y .ur i- ■ .r who tolls
y„„ ,0 voto «ooo,-,linf; to your.-o.,soio.,oo, o..liKl.lo..o,l by tho pasto.-al loltor OaanJ.m.nt) ot
our Lo.'ils tho Hishops of tho I'lovii.co of (iuoboo.
Numew of ll.oso who havo tostitiod, A:o.
A. (i. Dufour, blaoUH.nith, .najor.
Aniii'ow Bouoha.d, bakor.
Thomas Cotii. iiiei'chant.
Paii.l>hile AUartl, merchant.
Elzoar Allaril, furmor.
Bonjamin Gagnon, sailo.-.
Thomas Gauthior, whoelright.
Jacques Hoivi.i, larmer.
1120 Joseph Guillemot, sailor.
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Zcphirin (Jaf^non, do.
Tliomas Siinard, (•ari)cntor.
iJonjaniiii C'ote, i'arinor.
Joseph liavoie, nailor.
Cliai-luH Mayer, linclunaker.
Thooduk' Trcinblay, Mliootnaker.
Honilace Ven-eaiill, carpontor.
Josupli (iauthier, captain ani merchant.
/.ophirin (luillomot, joiner.
Kuc'lior (riiilleniot, do.
Joseph I'lanio, jiilot.
Thomas Gronon, hihorcr.
Aujiu.-le Sin.anl, (Xombrette VilinK'c) (aruioi .
1'. A. Hois, merchant.
Josopli Diicliene, J. P.
J. \i. R. Kd. Fortin, N.P.
Arthnr Verreault, joiner.
Kmile Simard, lUrmer.
W.Tromhlay.J.P.
Josc])!! Cimon (('ap au He) farmer.
Thomas Lavoie, laborer
Ovide Simard, tanner
J. B. 1.. Duponl, advocjate.
.Marc Fortin, farmer.
NorljerlTremlilay, merchant.
Ovide Tremhhiy, joiner.
Anioine Fortin, farmer.
Kuburt Boily, do
I'rime IJoUy, sailor.
Ovide Tremiilay. mayor.
Louis Aliard, gentleman.
Joseph Hoily, farmer.
Arsone Simard, miller.
Louis lioulot, farmer.
llildobertTremblay, do
Octave <i nay, do
Joseph Larouche, do
(Jeorgc LaiDUcho, do
Napoleon Tromblay, do
I'ierie Houchanl, do
Octave Roiuhurd, do
Fleurent Dut'our, do
Josc])h Otis do
J. .Marc Hoivin, blacksmith.
Kiicher I'otvin, joiner.
Auguste tJagnon, laborer.
Josej)h Simard, farmer.
Ovido Boily, do
deceived and certdied before mo at the Baio St. Paul, the 12th -lay of Februar> . 1^.'
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Ki'luhitZ, liledat Kn,,u;ie wltfi tU ed,l,>,v'e of the li, e. Mr. (:in,j Mu».
from "Ic Canadicir of th,' Ith of .liuiuanj, IS (6,
Miirf,—Kiira<t
The I'KiNcii'i.Es ok tuk •• Hduhes."
-riio Liberals iiro aoci.kvily lU.nKi^ke.i. ll is thoir iVicul anJ Io;rIoi-, ll.o Hon Mr.
llm.ti.ijilon who t..ar. tVo.u Ih.ir lace the veil of hypocrisy whicl. allowcl Ihe.a to de.orve
some «)t' our fellow-cili/.ons.
I ISO Y... Mr. Uun.in^to,,, ll>e I'o.imaster (loncral, one of the Miuistors ol tl.o Crown
^ last woeU sai.l lo tl,e wl.ol. ,.oo,,le of tl.o l)„nii,.ion, that, the A>-h<;/... wore really S-nlty ot
all we char.a.l tho-n with. Thoy are the c-no.uio. of ITltranK.ntanism .he enonues o the
Church, ami the friculs of tree-thought : ("an it he ,loui,.e.l ? It ,. Mr. Ilu,.t.n,.^ton l.n.ol.
who lolls it to us an.l glories in it.
Uorc are his wonls. Mr. Huntington was at St. A..d.vws and was allrosing the
electors of the County of Argenteuil : —
..Mr Huntington lollowed,doi.rccatingtlKM.ai.singofreligiousciuestions a. elections.
Ho sai.l ihat Mr, White, having ev> ry right to oxerci.e his religious views, hko ^^'^
was allioa in Lower Canada to a party which did not recogu,/.e tins pr.nciple I >e t,uu
. [Mil u e when the Iv.glish I'ro.estauts wore allying thon^selves with the Fren..h L.hera .s
"■ i:: -clla. Tl,; .vas the only reasonable alliance iu the itHercstot tree tW.gh
vul free .peo.d, (Hear, hoar). Twenty y.ars of Bnfnh ProU.tant Toryum tn Uwr Cuu..,
Z •rL/<A,r//..«.-./.«<..«,tlHOUghwhieh .night beworkel senous trouble ,n th
nuu Whoever .night be Mr. Whites persoual views, the party will, wh.ch he acted and
wll 'would confol hi..., was .-ogulated Uy a p.,u.r mt/< rv/.nn Jr. th.u,/,t uM c.^or-
t^Z c.n,nals.u (Hoar, hear). .M.-. White wa, really the too ot those w .o we."
2, in Lower (Janadu to .nake the .Stale sul.ervie,.t to .he Ci.u.-ch, a,. 1 to declare that
tlt^ . fv 1. OS of the for,ner we.^e to allow the do.ninalio,. of the latter. It was uselosB
t :!' Whi. lo al,e,npt to wr.gle ^ o. -.--^^ -. ^^1 ^^t^^:^
'^'"^r M:- ^r-'Jinie^i^^ all^theV..p,e in Lower Canada
w^ .1^ :ri..g .:gainst the Ulfan.ontunis.n of which Mr. White was „.e a ly. Hear.
r.r) 'A. .-"/*"/''' '- '-'"'•'-"-•' "'^''""'"'<^ """"" ''■ '"."f ""' /"""f "'"",
T, .i.-.s ..olhi...' fo.' .t, hut that the En,,ll.k speahh.j ,>,o,,k ol Lom.'.r tan.ula ,„n.t
« „, ^'^:''f''f'^^J ^., ,„„,, ,,.,,,,,.! aid could be allb..ded to the Ul..-a-
'" ""'" .'" T we Va 'I , the obieet of which was to uuite Church and Stale and
:'::;;;:;:;;.:: ^n:-' U. tl. b.r.n.:-U.an the elect,o.. of sue e,. as Mr. White, n.
1211)
to sub,.,.d...alo U.o .atuM '" ''^ •''•"; ",^ (Applause). Let Mr. White stand
T7" ; •:;r:.:;r^.^r; :: t:z't:^:u^^'i^^ - -.gemeuii, if they desh.h
':; li;; ". P 1 - ' - ^.0 any •.- the p.-ogr.un.ne a..d ,. a,.U. of UUra,.>ntan„^
Houd hi.n vo I. „,>eakin.' pcple of this I'.-ovinco, were no longer Hrili.h.
1,, then declatc that ^'^ ^^^f^^^ ^r.^, , ,„, „.,i ,,,c t,eir highest plea.u.eaud duly
that ,olo,.ance and ta..- hu h " > <■ ' f ,,„,t«,ing the doc,-ees of the Chu.'ch. //.■
-':;;:;;";; ::;r:tu:i::ui.rh:;:;^ ll.,:;...;,.... .,d .. .nd m... white
3;; to Montreal, (loud choer«), lo lake fre-h counsel fro.u tlu re,u-nomr, Mates„un who
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p,.,.,,lo, :u.,l all w.,uM 1.. well. (A voice, "Tlutf. so.") They h:ul on, ,,u.n.e,l bj tl e .
" ' . . 1-11 i,..„l..l Once let t lein iisserl lliem-olvos as Uio
' " ,Vie.n,U of Unli«l' .Voe.l,„n u-,.l .ius,i..e, an.i the onenuos «,.,., w„uM ho . Io.ko, i am he
U..,..,ioni.ts un,l .l.oir nuH.or. wouM roturn ... the l-..n,,,oun c.oun-.Mes where thou
o^ " Je.-o ao.nina,,,, or oNowho,., to sook .no,. ho,,c.ul ..•o..n.is .i..- .ho,.- oponU.o...
loiiijoil I'lioei'ii.g.)"
Wo hnve cx.n.o.0.1 th..-*o lines fro.., tl.o >vpo,-l ,..Misl,o,l i,. .h.. Mo,U.-e.l Ihrald.
tl,o o,-a,. of .ho AWv- <iovon,.no„l :m I of Mr. Il...,i,.>^no„.
Th,., :a...o.-.li„^ .o ,ha. ,„i„i.f.-. .o ,1... loaao.- o, .ho Lihc,;.!.. . ho A^.,,.. u.-o ^^
,,:,,,..i,.Jo..;..,..e...o,i.h....,sM-l,..,.^^^^^^
'::z::::^::t:::2.:;:z::^ ::... ^i i. ....„ ho ....
«, ih.il he 1-olios „,.o„ .1,0 s,.|,i.o,'. ,.„.l aia of ihe AVv-r/«-
oneof thoii-i.ioM sorvilo Mii.po.ioi-s.
, ,.,„ „H.v ..ow ,.o,is,e.- .hoi.- vo.es Tm- M.-. T.-o,„l.h.y, one ... .l.o>o who. nooonlin^ ...
M, ll„u,i„.M,;„--. ,loola,..lio,., a,.o w..,-ki.„'/- tlu' Mumph of fee tlnn.^kl-
'""' Tho „..,. who sha.-os .1,0 i„.a,ny ,.r .ho f:...l.. o.mo.it.o i hy .h.- R.u,- .Jovo....,..on.,
is cvi.lo,.tly ....worthy of .ho oo„li,io..oo of ho„o.t people.
, .. r II, .> I lli..i",l (ioveroi.,!-... in iho whole
,„. ,- ,.o,„o ^..., ;';;'';t:r:,: :':;;::;;;s,, o.,o...y. ... on..o.e..tho
1>"-—"- =""' ^''^" •'■""•'"' r, r/ . vs M the ...hjeel : - Tho .-e.i.l. is of .o,..e si^niti-
l.-„ i'l--'' ^''^V^'-'r-'f ;:,, :;^ S.Xo a i.. tl,ic.......y .l.e other a,.y i.y th. Po...
:;;i;:;:;j;;u.l-a,,h,,...hta..ai,,.oiii.o,,oowithTo..y.in..-a...o...a,,,,.... .
• , 1 .,,1 .!„> i.iiii.-alallio.soflho l-:.,gli-h .spea'an),'P"l'»l"-
'" As .Mr. llii...iiif,'to.i poit,.oa (.ul .1.0 ...vin.a,
lio.i of »^.ehoo a.-o .he l-".o.,cl, Lihor.lis,-
The R..,es a..a .ho CJrits have thore.bre ag.-oea to wage wa, a,ai.,s,, whut is
aetti-OBl to U.S.
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The Clmrlovoix electors will no (lonM -lo their July „.al ropu.liatc Mr. ■P.v.uMay
aii,l ihe (i..veri.imM,t in whose interest he is « can.li.late.
.0;i„ This is how .he A;,«r,v,«.J/W. an,i the .Wnrn. conunen. upon the anCor.una.c
wonls uttenvl l.y Mr. lluntintrtoi. in Ai-enteml:
TllK CiiNTKST IN AlOiKMLll..
Wo iT.i'l in I lie .I////,'Jr.-
..,v .,lr,..„lv sfiled Mr While .leciine.l acceplin- the i.roi.omlion nia.le to
As wo l,ave al.ea.l> t. Im M. >> n ^,^^^, ^,^.,.^i„„, ,,,,•,,,,
''■'•-'^ ^""^"""■'' • r' :,';,: .Ll i,is ,.;.. .11. i„ -he . ou,„y .,.• ..en-y-
hi
wa^
Irie
pnMiciilar i
MM.ns. Mr. Chris-iehas praelise.l his pn.lessiu,
>""""■" '^ , .1 1 ., ,.,„„1 h'lirofit. He never Mieooieo "Oil
;:;:;L:::;::;r;^:r^'nrt,:;:;:;"i:::;.'-:r.^ ^ » -
lie never iiiecicHeil with
is
t
The /,«!;«. iiowe^er h
t!::r:;t!t:::z:i,t:;:::.:-^^r^'^^ ^ -
hinisell "Illy wilh wlial he know.
The w^wleli nosl.oio iiniiirii
0,1 a-ainst Mr. White, and there, iw well as . very-
•is eiiils. WhiU' "lie
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a iiia.le a lierv s)ieeeli ( //'/
Mr. HiiMiii. i".-" -one. "v"'-;- ';■;'-„ , i;.;:;:. ii:
,Hs.,.r. •./> whHi we have ""-"-' .^l J l^^^. ,. ;... i,, a,„, w.s
another eMnniii. This s, h whieh ^^ ;;' J ' , l^ ^.,„,,,i,„. ..r war a.ains, ihe
,.„...„o,l tor. thai haran.iu. ... a aeina,",i. • . ^^,. ^^^^
;^:;:hs,';;;; ;;;:;:;;-.•:-- -'-
„,„., .,„. .•„,,.,..■„.,. . - u > ^^^^___^ ^^^^ , ^ , „ , „ ,
instnietioi.. ll U.i\. lo ii ic u ..iii, ,l,ose liuls I.elore his eyes tiii.t
e
iiit; It U'iU un
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.. Minisiorof the 'rnwn? .Xml even sapposii.;; thi t
Does this lanKi.Mi,'e heeo.ne a > n,-u. ... it ^^,,,„i„„ ,,,^,, .vouhl not Mr.
UiM.u..v,..U.n-..n.. as Mr. Iluntin.ton culls .t. was UanUm, o. -^m.
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IFuntinnton lie oliliLroil liy liis pusitioii to |iri'ii('li miHloiMlioii iiinl loiu iliiilioii ? Iliivo oiir
siiiti'MiiiMi uvcr HiHiUeii ilmi way? llml llu'v ^Ikiwii ihi'iii-olvcs (luiiiii^'()j,'ii';h like Mr. Ilim-
|;;il() tiiintun, wo woiil.l liuvi' liiid a ifliirious war in our TniviiKx' lon>j Uff>. WImt linvi> llie
CallKilics (Iciic to .^nil)illcr Mr. Iliiiilinj,'toii ? Let liiiii poiiil to a niti(;k' acl of af.'f;iTs>i»n
aj;aiii>l I'roi.HlaiiliMii. 'I'licy liavu liuil cli>|>iii(^s l.ulwivii ll.em>i'lvos, hut I'roU'^ianlr^ have
n tlhitif,' IikIo Willi thai. Tliey Imve no more rijj;lii lo iiilorcliTo than wo wouhl have to
iiiKirinclilk' {>i,>ui •■(i\i>ouJin) with the ilitUciiIlK'.-^ ihal might ari^e among IMo^hyliTians
or .\K'ilioai,-ls.
Mr. IliiMlinglon iimiia-kod ihf A','Wi,v parly with the iinsUilfiilno-s of a domagoguo
and •^liowud il to 1.6 tho IVifnd ol' froo thought. Now wIrmi it hapiicnol that wo d.'nounciMl
Iho ration. ili^t tc'Uilcncii'.Hol the LihiTal pros.it rn^ho I agaiiiM iisiiiid oidlod u-i'aluninitiatorrt
and ivni'wcd its prou-siai ions ofiiriho loxy. Woll. wo will loavo tlii.s pro^s to lio dealt with
1810 \<\- Mr. Ilniiiiiigioii, who proliahly known it lienor than we do.
We deploro .M r. llimiinglon's spoeoli, not • nly from a party Hiaiid point, hut hooause
it is tho liarani;no ol a rovoliiiioni>t. a roal appoal to a war of race and creed. We oondomn
,snch (lialrihos'n'om whau-vor (inarler ihey come. If one of oar friends would forget iiiin-
self so Ihr as to utter, in a oonlrary ^en.e, siudi dangerous words, we w nid not 'lesitale lo
consul him. 'i'liai is the only moans of preserving peace and harmony hetweeii olenioiits
which air.ilizens are in .luly "hound lo endeavor lo conciliate and unite. I'p to this time
Mr. lluntingKHi was a man of no importanco in politics, he could not he satislied with
this; ho now tries to become u mischief breeder, l^nu malliiinuiit).
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TlIK M.VSK KHMOVKD.
A Dominion Mimatbr raises niE W.mi Cry Au.mnst tmb ('.xtiiomc Cmitcii.
7a, a.m. .)//•. Ilnnti-HjUm in a Political Speei'h s,'ekH (<> precmt di'O'en-ilons in thit
( 'ounli'ii.
On Tuesday afiornoon, the :5i)lh Docomber, there wasa lar-e meeting of the electors of
Iho County at Sl.'Andreus ; as usual Mr. White made a s .lid spcocli thai hore the stamp of
iiioderati.m. In the cour>o of his remarks lie poinie I to the arrant had faith of Liberals who
char-chim, when thov are in the presence of {•'roncli Canadians, of bei.nr a dangerous
eneinv of Catholics, atid when before Hnglishmcn clianre him lo the c.mtniry, that is of
being a l'r,.te.stant by name only, and devoted heart and .-oiil to the Catholic Church, of
which they represonl him as a docile tool.
Tho lion Mr lluntinglon then addressed the meeting and .loclaiined with p(Hnpou.s-
iiess the foUo.vimr dotna^ogioal harangue which we find in the JMigli^h l^iberal journal of
which he is a joint owner, the flraU. So iu.h,.dy shall think ot charging us wnh putting
in his mouth words he never used.
COur readers will find that speocli in another column under the head T/u- Pri„dplcs
of thiRiiugfs.)
The first .sentence of that speech hears the stamp of a very uncommon liypocriKV.
The dema-ogiio minister commeneos by saying that religious questions should not be
,„„>,„, o, .■„„.. ■"''>;"i^;;;::":;:j;: v:i::;'i;'Ti::-:''^
1..- »■ ' I '•'"' '" ;■'';';;';:, ;;;:i,,., «.-, ww.- ■«• "■•■ >■ '.> ..>
'■■'"a- 1'"-;'^r'''^'■"'l;:::;;::r;■l:::.n'^•.■^'■' '"-" "•""°
V. . .il.v>v* ■..■re.l ■> Hin.v thoy Imvo tuUon h...l..l
A.„T Mil. ,1.- 1 .1- - ■■' ""- '■•'";' ;\'* '2. u.. v,..e ..„ .1.0 a.„nc...y .,'-"""'
„„ ,.V,u.ral .;over..uM..M. 1 Ley wcro ":' ";•;,,, , „,, .v,,„l.i>l...,.H "fUuol mul
to i..., no in,o .1.. .1.1.,. ,1H. nu.no. -., a. •• • .^^ ^^^^^^._ ,„,, „,,.,,,
H,,.„.vi..U .-ho.. ,a...i..... ...;l ''"^^ J. ;:.,.„. wl.i.h ..n..o.l j..Mico ... .1.0
„,,„..,..l .u.,...n.y. T.....V :.l-o -- " :' „;-^,,,,„,, ,,,.„..,..... ,..,-la.i-. '.ni.,-
vi...'ial .■l."-.i-.s ':-"'-^"7', ;.:.;,, ,,. ,al..lv a..,- -i... ." i' i"""-""'
I'n.vi.. .t;..i..^i ""• '• '"^•''••'•^ '"■ ;,.„,,„ ()„o ..!■ il.e l.i^ wl«. ni .1... i....-.y W..H
tc...le..<-i. ...whi i. --V «^- - -;;^' ^ ,,. „,,..ive .....i .lo.o-.-- ""i--
^ .,,,,.., all .1.0 l'.-...o.ta..ts ... ...0 '--::•;•.„, ,.,.,,,„„...„..
l;,.'.o
will, ill'
tlio Sl.lll.
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;,., ,.a,h,.lio .nai...-i.y ... H-- '';;; \ ^ ",„ ..,,,,., , wi.h i.....i--a...'o i.. ,l.o •■>>-
=""' l"""''">'- "'"' " "':, VV ... In ■ havo ..ooM .1,0 .-cipi-.' -<•'' """■•• '"■
.v....i.-.o...Mn,,a,.iali.v...wa..aH.l.o I . -a^^^ ^^^_^. ^^^_^^ ^,^^^,^ „,^. ,„,„„, ,„„.., Mr.
l.il.o..al .....a... w,ll — ^«/" '- V: : jivon .1.0,1. i.. .^.n..al w,>,..l. u,..l Ly .mo
,an.o .i...e .. i...-' '"'"'7'r / . , o '. .li^' ,,.•....-".>-.-"/'-' '"•" '^rT
-'"• "'"' ''''^';,::''H.;:;i; ;;i;:.!sX;:;';" ..• ...o\v,.... - ... /.„. ..... ti,e
:;::;;':;;iro';.u:M..i ^-uio ........
H .,r„-.ni i.»-.- i»«"ry"" ■ I "'-.i^,,, ,„ ■„r....i «."..„.
,. 1\ Mi..i. ■ •"•■ ''■■-",':;:»:: ,hI l. Ti,u.»iy ». « * ■■■«•-. t..-
" ., ■ .. i,; the l)...ni..i'>n Cal.i..ot ^vo,o ...c ... l.o«.-t
,, U,o.o,..-osonUUivos .,.•.....• .->-. i„„..eaiu.oly to p..t in !..«
„„aho.u..-, tl.oywo..Mto.vo.l.o..collcag..c,M.
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' ,.c.si..MnlioM MS n .ni.,i>lor or ll,c ( '.•..wn. .,f v l.i.l, pnsili,.,, Ur nwuic LimM-lf lol.lly unworthy
l,v his ,v...»l s,K.e...l,, ..r thoy wo„M lhun»c.lv..s wi.l.lraw tVon. a CMlmuU w„u-„ km.ws ns
Uu.V.n.l ai.ni,y>o linlc us to U..,. Im its midst a ,k.,„M,....mo ol ,l,o stain,, ol . he 1 o>t-
n.a^toi-iienofal. Hut Ih.y will v.ry likely no, n.-v. .n the matter, tor tho g;- reason
U,at they ..roloss l„c s.n,. sul.ve,s,v. „l.as as proacl.cl hy Mr. llun.tn.t "';•.'-.--
knows tll.'n well, .loclaro.l Iba- he woaM ho at oneo ,.,v,,a,e.l to re.s..i;n h.s j.ostton 1 ho
helieve.1 nis eollea^nes were not eunal to the inaintenanee ,/ //„■ doclnms he luut aU.ays
Ho when in ihe futaiv we shall chat-e the Liheral-National-Helorin party with
uuholdtn.: the .an.edoetnnes, no tninistenal orj^an «hall have the riKh. .o aeeuso t.s o
£,;!„;.,. a. Ion, a. .he Liberals shall n..t have re,..alia,e,l Mr llunttn.ton as one o.
Ihuir ehiels ami ohlif^e.l hiin lo leave the < 'ahiiiet.
We shall return to that suhjeel, Ibr it is of Kfeal n,o,nenl that the Liheral pa.'.y he
.hewn to the people under its true eolor.s. One of the leaders of that party, the a y o
tr'eMullen o /W. n.eu.orv, .he n.an extolled hy the Hun />Mc nu.i U.Ui m, veneraUou
r? :»1' - j-t bolilv hois ed his re.ljlu,j, whieh had heen hiddet. a mon.ent ...
« do oi i- o e .eh .no..e eas.l ■ .he.ood .aith of the oleetors. 'H.e wa...e.-y has hee.. ra.sod
Unn ll.i' i.ne ..ot hv.I.e y.Vo,.../ or .uetvly .,V another journal, hut hy a .ne.nher o, the
^ ^ '^ ue.,t of Ca,.ada, l.i...self All the ...en of onle.-, who wish to see .l,e ..e,,.. o, ,,o eo
!;, O..V eonth.ued hetween .1,0 various ..eli.h.us e.eeds, ...ust un.to and repe the
1 1 eaiaggres.io.. of the Lihe...l .iovern.nc,.,, a.,d wanl oiV .heda,.,er o ho a ,.s
o uS :^- to ^:;^el. the latter eri.ninally socks to dri. our ..unt.-y. It .s h,«h tune . t
'1 ..ue Conservatives, all those who take to heart the .na.nto..anee ot the ,ood ,.. do.-
' tweon the hete..o,o,.ious elo,no,..s whieh eo.nposo the populat.ot. oi ..na, a ^
we lhop.'eservatio..of our,nutual lihertios, should ope., tho.r eyes to the g..u ,ty of
lliu. ;. a..d makoaeon..nou e.lort, whicl.«oovo.- religious de..o,n,naUo,. they elong
to! to hold the eou„t.-y haek iVo.n .he fatal slope who., the Lioeral. ...tend ,0 p..sh ...
Till wo further con,...onl upon that -luestio,., wo advise the eleeto.-s of Cha.nhly and
1 ^1'* CI..U.I0V. K to ta „to .e..iou« co:.side..ution Mr. llu..tin,to,.-. wcxls and ..ot to lose.,,
oi "ho dl,er o, .. urnin, n.omhe.-s willin, to ,ivo ae.istanco to a .ioverntnent ^vh.el. has
such intentions {Nonvfui-Moude).
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DeJendanCs Exhibit No. I. Pa.tural Letter oj the liishopx <>f '/"^ AW/^./u.^/r./
I'rovince of Quebe<\ t'liid Scj>tembei\ 1S75.
Wo, by .1,0 .nercy of (lo,l u.ul tl,o favor of tl.e Holy Apostolic. See, Arehbi.hop,
Bishops a.Kl i,l,ni,Ms,naor of the ,lio.e.es of ll,e He.lesiustieal I'rov.uce of (iuobec.
71, t/u CUny. Secular and R.vdar, and to all the Faithful of the said Pnn'inee, Greeting and
Benediction in our Lord.
, , .,„ We dee.n it on., duty as yo:n- l'asto,-s, (.ar Dearly Belovea H.ctlm.,,. U, ad.lre^. you
^ ' -" oM ...any .uo.,l i.nporian. subJoCs to whi.!. aivers ei.ra.nsiances b.ave ,.vm. u.e.
1.
Tub P^^^YEK of the (.*iilrcu.
IVhosoe^'er unll I. saved .S'O- "- AU.anasian Cree,l, should hold the Catholic R,ith:
(Mall, xxviii. •'.••.)
To lulfil this subli,no arul .lirti.ult nussion, it was necessary that the CJhureh should
be ...iuill't by be.. Divine Fou-ae.. u.„.e.. t„e l.nn of a soeie y, poHo. ■„ Use.., cbst.not
ami inileiieiiileiit of civil soeiely.
No society can exist without laws, an.l consequently without legislators, J"'l«o^. "^^
rsosocKi^ ..e-necud; tborefoce, has the Church necessarily
the ro-iuired p..wer to make "7'", *'" V.'T; ch hiren lo u ainla.n onler and unit>. To
'■''":!:3r::;:;::r:::::i.^:;-™...-
b. ,o decide in favor of I'Hate and lUrod against Jesus U.ri.t hnn,U. .
The Church is n.-t only independent of civil society, but is superior to it .,y her
ori.m., by her comprehensiveness ai.i by her end.
,„„u« live in ™*'>;,,^;; '»,:;::: ;''L'ui^,,:.n- »i.. i.» -«»'.>• ~.iv.-
""" "ilTivilI -So Tli. .t,a, i. .l,.,-cf«c „. U,. OI,urd„ u„J ,« U.oCh.rd, „, .1,.
State.
umv
V
V
TIki I'lii
1 oI'lllO I'llUI'cll IS
tlic" cliTiml lii\i)l)"mos
nf sniils, suiPi'iMiu'
ami last oml nf
mm
iIk* cut
1 (,r civil »()<:ioly is Hi"
ti'miiiiviil iiiiiiiiiiu'sH (I
iiution^
Uv li
nuluro <i
tliiii;^s, civil sdcii'ly i- in
111! ilml (iiniosc!
Jirally, 'ml tinly, s
ulioi-ililiiitc
the MUnemo iiiwl l:ist cii
il <ll IIUI
M, imi it sIku
,,„, „„t only ^l„.llM it reiViiiM IV..m
,1 iils(^ Ilia llicClmiTh ill lior
livine
mission, am
I it' WW'
iirolcct an
1 ilolomi iiiM
V,
;i!>wii''
is it iii)t iHi
ilont that lilt!
hiipi
llllC-'S
even teinivii'
il.
naiwm-
I'lU'lll
, on I I'll
,,|,, jiislicc, morals, and consul
iH'iiily
all llioso
trull
^1,11) luinilrcl years tuaclios as
IS coinin
ittcl lo llio Ufi'l"".- "
, thai thcie i
i V\w Church? ThccxpcrioiK
(it tlic last
IS noilhor res
I iior stahilily
ilirowii olV the yi
kc of rollicioii, ot'whicli
h the Church
is onlv the
!!• the nations
true iTiiariliaii.
that have
T
his SUlPOlM
linaii'in doer
lol prevenl llie-c
societies
tVoin heinu'
Ihoir re^jieclive cm
Is. and iiideiiendent eat
■Il in its proper sphere
tion toiicliL
, liiilh. mora
lis, or the di
vine constiiu
lion ot tin
distinct, lieea-iso of
jJul the inoinont a (pies-
Church, her indeiiendeiiee, or
l>al is iiece-sary for I
\v'>a
ho fulliliaent of her s)
(iritual missio
n, she is the so
\m ji
tin' ih
.ire
•h ale
Josus Christ
All powe
(■ IS jfiven to mo i
II heaven a'' '>n e:
As the Father halli
that hoareth you,
closjiisjlh me. do-p
cnl me
1 iilso seiii
voa...(ioin,H
r therefore
tcai
di vo all nation-
hoarelli me;
tiKil despiM'lh you, -lesj
lesni-eth nu
soil
1 hill
1 thai sent nie.
.11
who
11TI> tl'>
the
nillien and |i
iililican.
that is t'^ s
will not lieai
:\V as unworthy
the C urch.
..Ue
that
ol him he to
Am
lo 1)0
1)0 called her child
(Mall
XXVI 11. 1^. !'•'•
1,;,,, X. l.i..l..„„XX.:il.M=^"
XVll. 17.)
Hill i'l thus VII
lieatin.i; tln'i ri
'VU
)f till
Cii.holie fhnrch over her children, we do
1,11(1 K) encroach on. o
iiol |iit
Willi whom we shal
r hinder in the lea
^t tho civil ri.i^lits of our se
;ii-:iled hrellireii,
ly intcrcmir-e.
elf.
friem
tho Church liei
loiy-ollcn them.
1,0 always hap|.y to prosorv
The principles we now maU
o in lliu fill are,
known are no
in I
ho iia-i, llio most
Wi
rcca
1 1 them to- lay because eei
.1 now, they .\ro as
lain Catholie.s seem to
Id us
have
II.
The CoNsriTiroN of the CniTBcn.
. .1 rn.Mw.l. .xisis in a supremo dei^reo, m
■' 1, , ,u «..,.-i - •■'« ""'^■"■"'- "'-•"°
.,T,,e Uoly.ihosl hath placed ...lops^^-;;^ >^ ^-;;t^^^^^^
,..nU ei,lsr,,.s r^r^ /-■'■- /^; J;^;^^ ^^ -,;;;. ,, nevertheless snhordiiiale to that
"""t,, . ...o.«v,„. ,.... or .-a.,.o,. c„„...„ .1,1.. .»»c.-i-- 1-'- -^
ij:
Hi
[lower i ^l
nil is lliu Hick'^iiistieiil llioiiUTliy wliifii, in ltd ailiuiniUlu wlinio, fiiiivv:. ii> iv
■il, and I'lipulilo i>l' iiltaininn, willi I'urlamly,
lis cm
I, which
soi'ii'ly iKTlurlly orf,'ahi/,oil
otL'tiial salvation of each ot ils inniiini.Tal.l.' fliildivn, " of uvei-y Irilioand lonjinoaiid iioopio
and nation ; -■..• iiiniiilribn, ,t linunn, v.l jn p.i/o H inUiwiv (Apoc. \ . !• )"
111.
I.')!)!)
(.'ATllol.lC LlIlKllAI.ISM.
Catli.dic i.iiioralis.n, savs I'Imh IX. is tli.' most invelorato and the most dan;,'omu8
oncniv ol the divini, n,nsliimmn of ll.o (•lunrh. I,ik.- unio the suipent which nvpt into
the earthly paradise to Ic.npt ana hrin- to ruin the luinian race, it presents to iheilnldreu
of Adam, the dereiltiil allurement ola certain lilierty, and a certain science oC p.od and
ovil; liherty and science whi.'li end in death. It seeks to creep imperceplihly into tho
,„,,s ly places; il laM-inales ihe mo>t .IcMr-si^rhicd, and. poisons the most in-cmi'""*
souls, should their failh m the iMlallihlc auihoriiy of the .Soverei-n '-ontiir, waver ever
so little
■I'hca.llierenls to Ihi^suhllo error oonccnirate all their slivu-lh to hre:i'i the hon U
i:^|() which nnile Ihe people to the Hishops, an I the Ihshops to the Vicar of .JesUs (Jhri.t, Thoy
iipplaiid civil auihonlv e.ch lime it invale. the sunciuuT; they -eeU, hy every means, to
in.lurethelaithful lo" tolerate, if not to approve, ini.piilous laws. Knennes the more
dan-erous, since otteii, even iincon,scion>ly, they favor the moM, perverse doctrines, w.uch
I'iiis IX ha>soihon.u-hly unmarked in callin- thorn a chimerical reconciling ot truth
to error.
T e Lihcral (•alh..li.>is rea.ssure.l hecau.se he still relains certain practices of piety, a
ecrlain amount of tailh. and of allachment to ihe (Jhuich ; l.ul he caretnlly closes his e\ e»
on tiie ahyss opene i in his heart hy this ernu', which devours it in >ilence. He also hoasis
his rcli-ious cmvicti.M.s to ail coineis, and takes olfenco when warned that Ins principles
•Vio
:',r
are dan^^. rmis. lie is perhaps sincere in ids hlindiie>s. (lod alone knows! lint under all
t.iese line appearances, there IS an am.mnl,.tpiile which m.dces him l.elievc thM he has
more i.rudence and wi-dnni, than they to w, .nn the llnly(;ho>t has eiven miss and
,r,.ace to leach and govern the failhtiil. He will ho heard u ,Mrupul,.usly censuring the
acts and documents of even the hi-he>t religious authority. Under pretence of removing
tl,ocaiiseofdis.eiisions, and of reconciling the progress of the society ol the day to the
(;oM.el he enlists in the servi.e of ('a>.ar, and of those wl vent pretended rights ui
favor oV a fal.se lil.ertv : as if darkness could co-osisl will, liuht, and as if truth .lul rot cease
to bo truth, when vio'lence is oifere I to it, diverting it from its true sigiulieation, and
divosliiig it of that immuiahility inherent to its nature !
In p.esenceof live Apostolic hriofs declaring "Catholic Liheralism" to heah>nlulely
,,.,omp:ililile^vithoatli<dic doctrine, although it is not iormally condemned as heretical,
yei IK) one can he allowed eonseienliously to remain a " Liberal Catholic."
IV.
Catholk; I'oLiTios.
One of tho most powerful geniuses tho world has scon, St. Thomas Aquinas, hns
defined Uiio ingeneial: ^'Qm'dani ratlouis onlimlio ml boaina ronuan„e, H ah eo qui
Ssl.
l->
'I'lio Ciilli'li'' <'liiinli ron
l.'iK) politii'*.
'I'h.i i/'-^-ivi' y."«/ in iis HUpri
ine mil '*|>1« «"'"'•
Iteanoii rtliDiil
lllC HIUITO
,r Uiu liiNV. KoiiHon, til
hut i^ til -ay, tlio coiilormity ol llio
,M to lioi'iniiloyi^'l. i>"i "Illy '" *■'
ml not piirty slMi'ii, i"
inuti
U' I'll
U,, 1.0 uUi.i.ioa, lull aNo lo j.i.ii.o aii.lio nionil.;
,t the iiiU'iiti"!! Ill miiinium one-'
•If 111 I
lowoi',
I llif will
III injure tho opitiwcil lii>''<y'
'Plio iiillliol'ily ^vhicli il
riv.|iK-i.lly u'liioMMilsil, >won
ntiLHCS llio liiw Ik lioro w
I in iiiin.l, uh.l rea.ly U, sliik.. wli.iov.
;|,„i,..,l,ly .K-liiioil. Tlie Holy (ili".l
1- rt'lii^frt til roi
ioi' it
honiir
Tnur ami Iril'iilu; tliii
Id il apiicar M nulnin^,
i;,.,l's nuni^ler, an aviMi;j;i'
xi'iiiio wiatli U|>'
Inni Muiiaoolli ovil ; tJ-l mini^
iti-r ««', I'l
l.'i.".t) aiit fli'iiii
Willi iiivc
Xlll I 1 l'"l'""' ""'>• "'"'""■• '""""'^"'"^ "'
hiiii liis(liili.''H, wliiloilorniiii>,'lii-"''t^
,,/,..•, ill iriiiit I'i 'I'l' ii"i
itlii.iily in the |iei'*.ii tl
r to
liim
III IIk'IO-
ll! I, lrnilll> Olll 111
<'l) li-^iKlalors, iiiiN lit'i'ii '"11
iiiii Ml, voiir 1
" -ali>tV yiiiir mil'"
•M is a fliai.no, an ol)li.i,'ati"ii,
tiiluil the iiii'i' "1 HH'ifly ; '/
|iir>t Icir lioiiors ami riflif
a ilmVi im|m-«i3'l cm you."
l„,m ■l'oy<m, O pniifi'^
/,s /( ihil : liol lo
(((' Cllll»l II"'' '
liart aulliorily
lie
■un tiivi'ii
yim
I'oliiic- iriily iliviiio
rMisoiialile i>nli it-, ill Willi
Willi whii'l
iwli ollllT
O I Ikiw tar rmmiviM
1 from llioso tiilso ai
i| Hovorfii.'iilv mi-
ll tlie iii"'l im|i"itm't intoro.sis (
ifu niiiion lii'i'onu'as a play loy,
lilinclloliloil puili/.ai
scoU to amuse, to t-'mi^'
■li ihc'insolvi's, ami to s
ipplaiit
[•'ar lion ns
liie ilwiuiilit "!' ili~i''^'anli
liii.r tlio ailviinianos o
if {■onstiimional rnlo,
lOiai
C MIS I
ilci'i'il ill i
isi'ir. anil I'OMsen
loiitlv. llie utility
tiiity of llio-c parly '
listiiHlimis, whifli
l„,|,l each olIuM' ill I'll
cck, to point
111 ami arro't llm crro
WmU wo ilei
ivaiicel t'l llio lilt'
liMiloiv, wlial we 111
k 1. is llio
aiiii'O tlioi'oo
• \ ; it 1-
iif tlio piii-iy ill p"Woi-.
till, in'oloiitioii tliaipolilK
siiiironio n
,„ aii'l ri.lioiilons propoiMioiis ol
ilo of all IMililio a.liiiiiiisii-iii'm
if iiaris- illlo^o>l^
1
Thai em-nidi •"!/ "'i""
should lioooino ilie
1,1 1,0 /(//■ t/ie /iiirlil
11 II
hill'- I'M' llio r„„iiiiiii, ;/o."
,/ ; liol
liiiijr for ilci' .-"'■"/,v
ilhll III l/ll'll' '■'"■''•
\V Imt wo
iilso ooii'loiiiii, il i^ til
;,1 moil shoiiM pormii llioiii-o
|V0> I'l
■av and lo daro
II llial "liiy -ei've
to tlio ti'iiiiii|ili "f II I'^ii'ly-
(;
I enf Id nil/ tviil
,!.■< sa\s llio
Holy (ihosl [Wisdom VI. J, y
im
ll,„| I'lllo I ho po'.l.lo. CO
n>idor that pow
Most lliiili, wli" ^^11
oxamiiio ymn" \^'"
er is fiivoii yon
I'Us, and soai'ch on
hv the Lord, and sU'ciijitli fi • "lie
t voi.r ihon^'hls : hccnii-o
lii'inj.
1 5 VI
mini
accoi'i
.UM-of his Kiii.irdomyon havo milju
d:;od ri.L;lilly, mil' l<"l't l''^ '•'^'' J"^'"''''
nor walUt
d
linn to I
lu. will of (iod. iloiTilily
and si
icodilv wi
1 llo (.'01110 to jildgo you WI
Ih
e^
ti'emi r.;;or
The
,A1(T <1K rilK C'l.KUOY IN PO.rTlCS.
• ■ Olll- Ho'ii-ly Beloved HrethciMi, incessantly vopoat
Men Lent upon decoivinj,' yon, ^ -J alieiitlon slumld he paid to .'eligioiis
that rolij.ion lui« ""tl-i"^ I" f -'»' ^:'^^'' ^^^, ,„,.,. has du.ies U. fultil but in the
•^-'^■'-'v':f::;:t;;^i:;; il.: ;.;■ ^:-' - ^-'- ^'-'" ^-- '
(^huroli and tlio s.iiiisi^i
iudcpcntloiifo !
1;
0S(»
71
M iM'iriiiH c'li'Mi-,, (I. |). I'. H. tui'l will' lit ilio rciiiiiiiy wliou'iii ilioy 'Imilil tiiko
iD.ri : 11\ I'xclii.liii)^ till) cU'i'it.v, tlify I'Xiludo llin ('liiiri.li, iiixl liy ilifiwiuj? llio ClniiTli
lo, llii'V ili'piivo llinn-i'lvi'H iirull thu Hiiliiliiry ami Miimiiliil>l • piirii'iplt'n mIio loiiluiiiH
u-i
(itxl, iiiDi.ii-, jiiMiiv, iniili; 'III.! wli>'iilli>'y liiivi- ili.Hln»y().| ovit) lliiiij,' ul^o, imiliiiiK
llicin liiii liiiio III loly ii|iiiii
Iflt
WIkh'Vci' lia- liH siiUulioii a(
lioiirt h\\i>»\i\ lo^iitiito Ills actioiw acconliii;; to the
iliviho law, uf which ivIiKioii is Ihif i>x|)ri"Ni'iM ami ihu f;nanlian. Who ilm'-i iiol aiulor-
I I'.'iiiuiilii woiil.l I'Vi'n xlu'io pii'vail, iliil nili'i« ami people never loco
^laiiii how jlinllt'e am
xij'lii oi
shall
ihiHiliviiio law which Im ccpiiiy il«cll', wv of the loiini.laliic iM(l>:mcnt liiey n
) I'dbre lliiu whoHii look ami ^n•iMlL!; arm iioIiimIv can c-capi
have, one il iv. lo nil' ji%'i
|.V.III Tlif pcojilc have, llanvloiv, no irreator eiidiiie
lliaii lliii«u men who want lo lianisji re-
li;^ Iioin polilics lor iimlcr tlic pivlonco ol liwiiii,' the pcplc IVoni what llicy ca
/irii'ii/ ii/riniiii/, /iih
heaviest luaiiis, aa
•ake Iropi ilic civil |.owci' iln
il lo .ics|iolisiii ainl lyi.'iiiiiy I
II
Ihcv arc |iic|iariii;,', lor ihc »aiiii pinplo, the
I !he iiM-i ililll all lo ihiMW oil': iiiey pai iiiii;ia above ri«ht, ami they
sl'f iiii.hiit ill fill '■lift',
imiiii! rc~iiaii
Il whii h call slop II fr 111 ilc;;ciieralili;,'
Tln'V want lo ivli'^alc llic jtricsl iiilo the -aci isly
Whv
lU'i'lliisc, torsiinlh, lie hasilcrivcc
iViiiri his slmiic-. I.calliiy ami Inic iioiioim
llic ri-lils ami ilil
lic^ ol v\ cr\ one o
I' ihc Tail hi'iil cohliiliKJ li
I Ills care
liccaii-o ho
Hacri
liccs his iiieaiis, lii> liiiie. Iii' lieallli, cvcli lii' lili
|,.r the wellaif ol hi li'llow liciiii,'s?
hull)
!■< hi. not
a ciii/.cii lis III I'll as o
ami net ; soiuolliiies ai''' seen
lliillicr to laslcii iijioii tlie I
spcalx nor wri
thcrs? What the lir-t comer may write, siieak
Hocking' lowanls a coniury or a |iarisii, ^lrall-e|■.s, who come
ii.lo their iiolilical o|)inions; alone, the |piiesl can neither
It will he iicrmilleil to wh iiiisoevcr it pleases to coire into a parish ana
hawk aliout all sorts of piinciples ; ami the priest who lives in the mi.Ui m his parishion-
ers, like a lather in the miil-t of his chililrcn. shall nave m. rijch- to speak, no ri^lit to pro-
tect aj;ain>l the e
miriiiitii s wh
liicli are atlereil
Some who to-day cry oat very lorn
III
I that the priest has nolhiiif,' to do with polities;
lint vesle dav loiiml this inlliienci' s.alulary; some w
,ho ti>-da\- deny the competency of the
:vuy ill the-e i|iie-tioii-.
ml
JMlcIv extolled the siireiiess of principles which },'ives to a
lull) man the study o| chrisliaii iiioi
, ! Wheiiie this chamre. i
f not that they led to act
au:ainsi
hcmselvcs the s.-ime inlliiciice which they once
called saliitiiry and just, and which
re now conscious no mon:
they a
rndonhl
not always op
to deserve !
<). 1). I!. I!., the exercisi' of al
citiy
irtiinc; it may I'ven
the riirhls of a citizen, hy a priest, is
)t he for-oileii that il lieion^-s ti
n have its inconveiiionces and its dangers; hut it must
the t'hurch alone to f:;ive to her ministers the instrne-
(loiis she thinks lit, and to reprohem
I tho-e who depart therefrom, and the Mishops of this
Province have not
(ailed in their duty on this point.
So liir we have looked upon the )
he priest as a citizen, ami speaking' politics in his own
liliil private name, as ai
IV other memher of civil society
ll'.-Jtl
Are Iheie ipie^tions in w
hich the Uishop and the priest may, and even sometimes
lid, inteifeie in the name ol relij,'ion
^m" ■•■—wmmmm
TO
Witliiml liositiilioii we misw
k-er: Yes, lliero luc ixiliticiil <iiiu>tioii> ii
1 wI.kIi Uic
cK'iiiy 111:13-, iiiid ovoii >lii)ii
il. inleiroru in llio iiaiiRM)!' ruli^jion
riu! rillo oI'lliiM I'iylil iiiid
ol' tliis iliitv i> l<i
l.c louml in the dislinflion wc iiiive iilividy |iiiintiM
1 iml hclwct'ii CImrc-li
Stiilo. .Some pDliiiciil (|iie>li(>n.s iTi Ciict idiRii
the siiiritiiiil inliMx-sts III siinls, oitliur
iIh'V m:iy iilluct llic liberty, tiio imlfpomloi.fe, ui'
in a IcnipDral iidinl ol' viuw.
A candiilalf mas prof
the fxislunco olllio Cliuriii, uvori
Ml iiiniselC wtioso platform is
liosliio to liie Cliiivc'li, 01- vvlio>e
antecoilcnls an' :ii(
Il thai liis I'anilidalni'o is a
iiKMiaco tor llu'.-o -..mo inlfrfr-!:..
1(130
A |)olitic:d jiariy ma
likcivisf lie jiiditod daii.^eions, 11
It oidy liy its platlorm and liy
its anli'i'i'
lijial nu-'mliurs, and
lliurrlrom, when, h
louts, but also by llio particular platforms and anloco
louts ol' its oliiot's, Us p
lis pi
•ess. it' tills party does not
di>oun
lliein and doliiiitoly sopaialo
avin:i' boon warnod, llioy in
L'l'sist Ml tboir error.
llo^li
Can a I'alliolic in tlio-o oasei-
: to tbo Cliuiili ol wliii 11 lie is a meni
witliont donvin^'his laiib, wiilioul proving' biinso
■If
ber; oan a Catbolic, wo ropo
Cbiircb tlie ri^ilit to doleiid lie
n>eir, or ra
llier to delend llio siiiriti
It, lol'iiso to Ibe
itorusl of tiic souls
ooiitided to her'/ 15ut the Cliuroli spoaUs, aots, aiu
11,0,0 ri-lils to tliO ilor-y is lo deny llieni to llio Cliur. li.
1 ooiubals by lior clergy, and to deny
The piiosl and tbo r)i,bop ma
V tlion, in all jiislice, ami sbonld
Lt',40
DoinI out tlie danjior, a
in oonsoieiH'o, raise
ilu'ir voK-o
i, a sill, Ibat to do siicli a
II act maUos lia
11.1 aulliorilalivoly, doolaio mat to vote <ui siioli a sulo
if tlie Cliuridi. Tbey may and
iblo to llicoeiisiires
illOII
Id speaU, not only
to tlio electors a
i,d oandidatos, but oven to t
bo ooiisiitntod autliori
tlO^
for ilie diiiv
ifeverv man who wisli
OS to save bis soul i> iiiai
ked out bv llio divine law,
and tbo C'liuicli, like a tj,ood luollier, owe
.we>' to ber (diildron of every
rank, love, and coilso-
ijiioiiily s|
tbo-e i\
liirilual viirilaiioo,
Tboioforo to onliglilon tbo ooiisci
1100 of tbo lailblul, on ai
IMllltll
.>Nlst^
ilostioii, wbicli 0011001
al triimiio.
II tboir salvation, is no
I ooiivorliii-- tbo iiulpil of truth into u
O. 1). I>. !>■. ^ii^di iiuo-*lion.s >
l)oiiolles
no Olliolio can deny.
lo not arise every day, but thai this rig'lit
lf.50
lie
iialiiro o
I tbo niioslion makes il "vido
doloniiino. u
and morals.
ndcr what i-iic,iiii.ilanoo-, slit
be ob'.ected tlial the priosl is
111 that, to the I'liiiivli alone, it belongs to
favor of rliri.^tiaii laith
iilii r.iiso her voice ii
liniiis a
It may
~>iiiiio.l him, mil
iablo, like
every oihor m
iin, to e.Nceod the
I bat then the Statu has tborigl
It to recall bim lo tbo pain of duty
'o this wo answer
lMr..,tlv, thai it is ollering a g
•atuitoiH
insult to the wdiole
Calliolic I'liurch. to -iippose that in
her liioraicbv no ionuM.\
l\ can be found to tbo iiiistico,
lo tbo error o
or
tribunals,
Churidi, shou
tone of ber minislors ; in ellc
■I, the rhiirch
has iier regularly consti
lulod
iiid vvhoover tbinl
lie has "roll
nds ol complaint against a 111
linistor ot the
d airaign bim, iiol lieloro the civi
I lull before the ecelesiaslioal tribuii
16()0
aloii
coinpolenl to ji:
■ o the tloctrinu am
the acts of llio pries
t. Tiiorofore
I'ius IX in bis
Bull .1/
uimtoUCit
Um: ^Stiliii. October
lSt;'.t, declared struck with a majo
r oxcoiiimiinication
siioh
iroctlv or mdii
'cctly,
oliliiio la
')■ J"
.'OS to airaign ecolosui!.
slical persons before their
triliunal, : gainst iho disposilioi
is of oaiiuii law.
I 1
mm*:.
Sc't-oiicUy ; Wlie
II tli<
70
.Sliito -liull inviiilo I 111'
iu,lit~i)lilio ('Imnli, inmi|iK' iiii'ler 1"'
il^ |iiivilot^os llio most siii-i'iM
lainl, wuro it not tlio lioi,i;iit of derision lo j^ivo
viclin ?
Ill in Swilzei'-
io lliis biiiiio tJlalcUio liglii l«) j^ng il>
1, as liiis hiijiiiiMis i()-(liiy in lialy, in (.onnany "i
'liiinllv: llllwviay doun llir i.rliu'iplo lliat n \
Kiwor no lon.i^oi
SOlllO OIR'
iiiav aliiisii il, all civil powci's i
imst !io ilcniivl, ibr all MU'h a> ar
cxisls, lioi'iiiisc
invo.sieil tliore-
ItiyO witli arc t'allililo iii
VI.
TllK I'RKSS AND ITS DiTlKS.
Ill our ccnuirv.
tlio yiruss iihiys u jiart
for fi'ooil or evil, tlio inipoi'taiiee of wliieli
eaniiol le i.ver-looke
I. 'i'he Clunrli eaiiiK
I remain an iii'lilVereiit >iieclalor
t llle.■^e ilaily
coiite.sls, \v
l,i,.h ;iic<iirrie,l on eiilier in iie\\>i)aii.>rs or m
liooks. Tlu^so \vrilin;i>
wliieli
ihe press in a manner iniinorla
liws, aii.l daily scalicrs to the four win
mure |iroi
uetive ot ediliealion or
1)V ihr lew wlio listen to tlieni.
ol'jcet is to jiroiiiijiali! ami ile
ot seamlal than wori
Honor ami praise to the-
almost as soon
Is of heaven, are far
forf;i>lteii as heard
Cailiolie writers whose e
lief
It ml triiili ; wii'
ihorou-hly and eaietiilly e.xai
nine the inuxn'-
IHSO Unit (piestimis they are ealled n|i..n lo treat
What shall Ihey answer to the bovereij;ii
.In l"-e tlio^e writers for wh
)iii polities, siieli as iiiKlei
>tood liy them, that is party iiilere~t,
lliu siii)iviiie rule; who ij^nore t
hoChiireh; who would maUe this .Sponge
(f('lirist. the
ifia-sar; wl
neiileet, or even des)
11 -e, 1
ho advieo of lho>e wlio
111 .le:iisl'lirist has
eoiniiiissionec
1 to teaeh the Iriilhs of reli.^ioii
The duties of the pre-s, saeli
h as pointed out by (mr last Cmneil of (^lehcT, may
.-iiiiimed lip as follow.-
l.-t. Always lo ;iet
adversaries wi
th eharity, inoileralion
aii'l lespeei
a.> zeal for tiiilii eaiinot CNrii
~o any exeess ol
I (■.'.1(1
>aiie,- will impaiiialiiy and jilsliee a;
deinli piveipilalely lief.av having sii
hal li-lil lliat which is anil'i.^iious ; :>
. I hey themselvos wi
llieieiilly examined in de
th. To avoid raiUerl
laii^iiia-e; 2iid. To Jiid^'o advi^r-
llld he indued; ord. Not to eoii-
the leimtution. iinloiimled aeeiisatioiis, tlio imi
(Ills to
aloiio ean know.
iho imputation n
tail ; 4tli. .Not to take in a
;area>ms, siippnsiiioii> injiiri-
f intentions wliieli (lod
What the Chiiirli has not e mdemiied may he eom
W
leii I here is i\
IS iiiieslion I
il'lhe eeelosia.-tieal oreiv
hated, lull eaiinot he st t;ina!i/.el.
il authorities, the laiii;iia-e should
always he ))ro]ier and respi
•tlul
Kstali
hu arraigned
lishmei.t.of wiiieh llishops are the protectors an
hofore the ineompeiit trilnimils of piihiie opinion.
1 natural judi^es, must not
Let IIS .'idd lliat the prio>
t, an
1 still more the liishop, in the e.xerei^e of his ministry,
ol ameiiahli; lo piihlie opinion.
hut lo his hierarehieal .-.uiienors
17<>()
has ^rounds to eomplain, may
ilwavs do so to tlio-e who iiave
ine. Whoever fe-
a ri^jhl to render
him iiisliee : from the iniest one ma
y ;.ppea! to the IJishop, Iroin the latter to the Areli
d from the Aieli'Mshop to the ,Sovereij,'ii
bishop, an
to repeat on ji iper the thousand and one ivpi
bellows of a boisterous sea, ^ive rise.
I'oiitilf. Hilt it ean never he permittei
Is to wliieh iiidltieal exeiloiiie
lit, IlliU
the
m^-^
710
I72i>
rifj;lil U) eriUL-izo and jiulgo lum.
VII.
On 0ATU8,
,, . , f ii„. r>ivl iV-i (!X. It.); with soveroi<!;n respect
Holy a,Hl tornl>le .s Iho n.,ne -t tin I'' ' ' ; ^^ ^^ ^,.,,, ,,„„ ^,Ue
,,|,orc.rore il sliuuM l.o pronmuKTcl, and t!,. Lord will -lot l.uM I.mu ^u.u
iIr- iiamo ofllic Lord liis (ioil in vain (i'lxodus XX. ,.)
..,.-, Tl. ,. 11 s;li'ilt swear : As tlio Lonl livetli
II 1>< also wriuon in tiio Holy .St-npiuro. . Thou shall
i„ tn.lh, an I in pul-menl, and in jnsliec (.loivn.ias 1\ . -.).
lliei'cof.
of some fad, or of
facua' ol such will. Tlic i.lHii.ui-
l„overvo..l. there are two. lislincl parts ; 1st, the atllnnaflo..
.0M,e will i 2,„1, U. u,.,r,Uio.or ''f ^^l^;^];:;^;^;^;;;:^ ;,,,,„„,,,, ,,e,ernnnea hy authority.
i;;:;;::i;:i;;:::;;;::;i.':::":-:^ eitseuofthis.,artof
'"' ""Anaepen,lson the con.orn.ity of this a.linnation or f ,rn..la to the truth, sueh as
known to him who taUos the oalls
When the allirm
,Uion or Ibrmula is trne in al, its ,.ar,s, the oath is ^ood an,l true.
^ ' ■ faUehooa suUues to maUe you guilty of i)er ury.
nen..e,onowtwo s. i or M-n.-ip-on... ...^. 1-^
.„„. „.,.,t ea, eimiy exannne, an,l eompre hen,l the t"- - " ' '^ , ^,„„^„,.„^ ' „ ,„
.oa.ain son.e.hin^ eon.rary to ,he truth such as on ; ^ '^ ,,^ ^^,„, ,,,,„^, ,„ „,,
,,„„ ,„ulers,oo,l. shouM there ho any douh, one --''"• '^^^^^ „„, ;, expo-e,l u.
' ,heoathnnme,n.eien..eissn.lieien,lyenl,,l.enea teo^^^^^^^^^^^
cnuMit pe,Jnry, an,l conse,p,en,ly, one heeonu. .u,!, -a ^--^^^ and wo ah.ohUely
;::::;;:;;';,::t;-:rir^::::r:?i.=/i~
M^''
78
,o lultil .crtain ,lulic« inM.o>ca on 11..,.., Tl.i. i. noi u vai.. lon..ulu, a 1 ':;;'"' -^^ ^l' ;;J
«c.n«o, Iml a au.st g.moohli«alion, a..,l wl.i.l. la.ls a, l..n^^ a. o..e .. ... otl,.c. ^ '"^; ' "^^
llH, ,„uUc... ul a H,i:.cial a.„l altc.liv.- exan.u,. ol con.ciun.o, w.,.., one i,.'o,.a..o« to .oco.nc tl.u
■.ai'.a...L'i.lf<.
Ho who take, an oatl. .l.ouM .•es,,ce. it, a..,l .espect it no less in other. Wo neiz^
.his oppo.-.unity ,0 ..on.lo.n.. a. an i ieiy. an.l a lu..,l of .ea..aai, U.e p.;a.tu. o^ ^ nn
h,wv.'' who to wi..ac.a.o, heM.a.e not to .•ro...-,i,.e.tio,. witness.. «.. a. as o eonl..H«
^^ , U.J ;^ thJn. U, ..o,.t...liel a,.,l pe..i...v the...selvcs. It is not sutlh-ct^ hat a cas
!;::;;.:I U.on,eanso.nplo,e,Uo gai.. it n.ast he eonto..,..al,ie to the ..n.nacahic ,...los oi
ti'Hth, iusiiee ami charity.
vm.
Ok KccLEsiASTirAi, 15. iuai
l-|i(h)i.l>tolly, ea-b-siaxlii;,! huriid is not as holy a
tl
le sufi'ain
,eiits, l>ut it does n
1)1 th
less apiRM'tai.i wholly a.ul solely to the jiu
'iiieiit ol'the
Chill
•ih.
We (Ilea. I iti
■l,:'<iiiKticiilhiirinl
I yCiO SI. eh asdetiii
eil ami .•e";iilateil l>y canon law, t
hat is to say, ..ol only the iii'ayei s
anil relifrions
.•ites will!
■h ai-e i.>od at liiiiefal>
hilt
pi'ayei's ami hles>ii.j;s
t'oi' the ln.i'ial ol' tho'
io the s;i
■ whi
i>l saiielilioil ami specially conseca
ileil 1
'.V
lie in peace
with the Catholic Church.
er on earth can en
ijoin on the Chuich to ]
irav ovK'X
who... she has in
|«eil unwD.'thy of I.e.- pi'ayi
it is a sac.Mli
the j;i".vo of the dead
ijeous outi'aj^e to violate ljy
loiTO the sanctity of the }:;i-oum
I consecialed iiy the [..'ayc-s a..i
'.[ I
ilessinu;s ol the
(yhili'ch.
it inav he
-aid that the |)rivation o
if the honoi-s o
if ecclosiical Im.'ial cac.'ies w
ith it
(lesti-adalioii and intamy, am
I that, thus coi.side.'e
I it falls within the jiii-isdiction of civil
,„l„„itv cha.-ed to p.-otect the ho.io.' of citizens
We a.iswoi'
1 , 70 against its .not her,
that the dishonor a.id i.ila.ny consi
and that notlii.i« can wash aw:
ist rather in (lie .'evo
lit of a child
wli.cl.
pe.'seve.-es until death
tl
le lawsiiits, al
the a
world, ca.i give
more nolorio..s,
lut a gi'ealcr jiuplicity to the fault
the sain of a grave disohediemc
Is, all the seiite.iccs i.i the
he degradation and infamy
ppea
id nioi'e del
leiiloi-ahle in the eyes
a. id lender t
)f true catholics.
JesUs Christ, say
;St.l'aul,/.
wi;l titi' Chi'Ph imd Jellrered hunxflf vp
■If v,) for it (Kiih. v. 2.-)).
pie ol our Uivi.ie
After the exam
world than tl.'s same
Christ. She is our inoti.e.-, sin
blaster an
;l .M.
Cl.uich, of which we a.'e the inc.
ce she has hegotten ii-
)lhinij; should he dearer to us, in th.s
iiiler one Head, who is Jesi.s
..hers u
to the life of grace; we sho.i
Id
her with a tilial love, .•ci'>'^'
■c in her triu..iphs, sha
voice in hur <
lolence.
When, Ihei'efire, we see he
,iv her sor.'ows, an
lihe';ty
IJSO cannot
Ije per...itted to
er childre.i,
•Mil still less to her pastors, to preserv
il, if need lie, .'air-e o.ir
id her dignity disi-ega.'do I. it
a silence which
would be tantamount to t.-eache.'y
Tne Holy Catholic (^hu.vh
herchihli'en to remb r to Cn^a
(Math. xxii.,'.2l)- She re ea
faithful to the teachings
?//.« thiiojs thiit are Ctriar
,ts t > them, with the grei
)f her Divine Mastei', instructs
,/ lo Go I Ih'. Ihiinix 'hat ore dwl'i
at Apostle: lieitihr llirrifon- to all >nri,
their duf.a.
Tribute to whom Iribotn in
<luii : citntoia lo whom rn
Moiii : fear to whom
ho II
to whom honor [\.l>\n. xiii. i
]. That this duly of justice and of i-esj
sa..lly ]).'oclainis, s
shall bo rendered lo the Churc
hall he tultillod in her regar
1 of God, she has, more
lecl, which she iiices
that a.'e Coil's Church
tha.i any other, the right lo expect.
I, and that the things
m^'
Milt, O. 1). n 15., with f^ricr wo iniiMt [.rDcliiiin it, iin atViiir, loit Mi.ily [\ow>»\ provo*
I 71H) 10 ... thiil ll.u CiillK.lic (•h.i.vl., ill Caim.!.., i^ ll.routonua in l.or lilwi'ty a...! lioi' most ,.icro.l
riKhlH. And tho w.wniiij,">t'>'irulllicli«.n isllml llio i"!....'.'!..'.!!. ex.-laiin will, ihe pn.plii-'t:
/ /uH-e hroiiijIU Ul> •■hiUn.iaixl rcduU thm, but Ihr,, have J-./.lso/ me : jlliox ' nnlrivi ,:l ivtitun,
i,,.l ,iut,nt ./.revenud me. [l>ai.i. i. 2] ! Tho ti.'st a.iti.o.N of .hi. .•..i.-a,ue i...vc lu.oi. Unn;^Ul
.i|M.ii thokiK.os<.farall.olic.,.othf.', ii. tlKMrinfa.ii'.v llioy Iiuvl- parialu-n of tl.u Divii.o
Uan.iuot, they Imvo mvivcl tho iii.l.-ilil.io cliara.-lei' .,f (.•onlin.iati.).!, an.l yot, l.Mlay, .n
Hpiloof their iwoll, t,hoy'"'" thoiiisolvoH I'atholii's, that Uioy iniy iW.'co li>o oiU.'am'O nf
a .T.nel.'y coMM-.-.-atol hy tho piayoi^s ..flho ChiMrh, a...| l-y ho.- dosi-.u-l lo,- tho l.m-.al ..I
iior li.ithl'.il chiliii'uii.
To pallialo thi-i ci'iuiiiial .i<i.i-|iatioi.. thoy
havo iiivoi;oil I ho pi'oto.nit' 1 (laUiedii lilierti^n.
l^sOO as il Catholic unity
I'o.iii.lel hy Jo-US t'hi'i.->l on the s.ip.'omo a.lthoi'ily
)!' IVt
o.' ail
I his
co.s.ioi'H, woi'o tint an oiiipiy iiaiiio
What a.ithoritv
isthiit which, liv \<l\'ok\l\<' /lii lihertien,
tlio Mihjoct can escape! Wlial pni.co,
ifiippoalol lo tiy a pi-oviiico, iiolwi
lio.i, an! tho siiproiiio ti'ilniiials oC liiu Stale.
at .•opiililic woiilil acloiowlo'l^jo sucli ii prineipio,
Llistamliii.i; tlicol'i ropcaio.l ilocla.-alioii> oi iho constiiti-
Thal thcv who mv not
oi'tlio CliiU'cii timl Mich principles nooil ami acimirahlc, wo
ciiinot woihlor; hoca.i.so thoy ilo not holiovo i
n this ;i.ithorilv, wiiich coiistitiitos liie I'ojlinli
hoCa.holic I hiirch". Hal that men who (liiro hlill to call ihem-clvos chiMivii oC
tioil of t
tlio Church, -ho. .Ill iliM-ouan
coivalilo onor.
1 to such a (U'l^i'fo hof teaching ami hicraivhy, i.s an incon-
IhlU
T
loso who havo hoiiiin. siippo.-ii!
oi' oiicouraj;oil i>y tlioir suh-criplions, this naino-
oss o.iira^o upon llio in'i
si coi'taiii rif^hls of tho Chun
'h, wo hoM ir.iil.v of open .•ohollion
u;j:ains
t tho i;huivh, ami a 'Tavo injiistico tor w
hich thoy cannot rocoivo torgivoiioss, unlu.ss
tho^ sli'ivu to icp.i.i- it hy all tho moans in ihc- p.iwci
W
invito
M
Loi'il, to havo Moi'cv on iho-e w
lice, that acUnowk
ill tho in.o chiMren of the Chinch to hoscoch tho Divii.o llearl of Our
ho havo ll.i.N strayoil from tho paths of faith and of ju.«-
(lfi;.ni; tiieir ii\uU. aii.l ropairinjj,' it, thoy may olitain mercy.
CoNCI-USIO.N.
Such
O. I). Ii. H ,
the important advices wo deem it our duly to j^ive y<
the prcisoiu circum.-tanccs.
1 S20
Ahoveall, lioware of that Uheralittin which wi
iit.s to adorn it-eif with the hoa.ilif.il mmiiic
A' Catholic, tho mo.'o surely to ac(uii|
by Iho de-ci'ii>tion thereof so frei
O.lr-hl
the
ilish its criminal work. Ka.sily will yo.i rocoijiiize it
lueiitly j.dveii by the Sovoroi^'ii I'onlill': 1st. Kllcu'.s to
idle
Ch.ivh to the Slate; lind. unc, asiiiy attonipt.s to break the bonds which ..
tho chikli
■ ll'o Church one lo tho otho
unit with the <-lo.-:
ot truth with oi ror, under the pretext of reconciling
all t
Jrd. uKUislrous alliance
iitlicts; 4lh.
iii"s. and avo.d.ii": co
lastly, illusion, am:
testations of stibmis.sion
1 sometimes iivpocrisy. which, under the show of relifiion antl tine pro
yi
to vhe Church, conceals an unbounded pr.do.
Ilcmcinlwr, that trac christian ]iolitics liavc but one aim, which is tho public jjood, but
one moans, wliich is perfect conformity ot laws to truth and juslico.
ls:;o
IJespe
•t the oath as a most important ae
t of roliaion : before taking it carefully
sn
uxaniiiiu I
1 ill,' lormiila Im Inie, to tlu
l„,^l of your kui.wlo.lgo, ill .'V.iry i
lirlirll
Iriv
,(Tii|iiiloiitly I'liilil ilii-'luiiusor yo
to iMM'jiiry.
„Ui ol'ottU'o, nm
1 hcwai-.' ol' iii'tmintf
Viiiir iicinliiioi
I'lm
Slaill this o>ir pivnent I'Mslorul liotter l.o iv
il ("limrlicH .,r ChiilieU ..i imriilifM ami in'
I aiul i>ul>liHlic(l at ll>»> pii.iif ol nil
he -tervico in iMM'I'.irmiMl.
I missions wlioiv iiiili
the lir.^l Suuiiiy """>' ''"* '•'""*' 1 '"••"•
(iivcll
iiiiilor our MinnatiifoH, t
ho Ho.il of 111'' Ardiilioi-Ohc, uii.
1 thoc plnltlM••M^'nature
of
Iho xeiTotary of llio Arciiiooi«i'o|.al i
l,„|;uootquolM,.i-. tl..'iwunty-.econ.
1 of Soplciiilior, one
lliinisani
10
l.s.Ml
I oifilil Imiiilivd ami Mivoiiiy-tivo.
i- K.-A., ABCll. OK <4i:k,iikc.
t Id., Bisii. or MosniKvi,,
t L.-V., lUSIl. OK TIlllBK RIVBHS,
K UlMor-tKl,
t J KAN, lll^ll- OK 8. o. o
I K.-U., IIIMI. OK (lUATANOl'Ol.ls,
■\ AN'l'UlNK, Ulrtll OK HllKltUftOOKE.
i J.-TIIOMAS, 11I8I1. OK OTTAWA,
I,..Z. MOHKAU, I'sr., ai
iM. I
iK H. IIYACINTIIE.
I5y tiicir Lonlsli'l
coiniiiaiiii
C.-A. (;oi.i.BT, Pat.,
Secntarjf.
Defciuldiit'H Krhibit No. 5.
(xV
„. -i, .V.^ Serk»-yo 4b of tke (.on,pld^ Seri^'».)
said />ruvin<c.
Soplcmlor 22iid, 1873.
(lENTZ-EMEN ; —
and advice re,ui.-od .,y the ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^J^^lZy .Jido the.n in the ...id.
our duty to point out also to the clorj,'y, rules ot c jndutt i
I >ii\(i of the diHU'ullics of the present hou.-.
IF
!
M,i,„l, h. tiln.u- u.Ml ,.1..H, u,.M.r .1.0 ,lMv.n iU-.r .■l.iol.. th. ,.no... ...rm a « h.K ,
..nnmlW.. hoHH.«..n....,., ...mI in.livi-il.lo. mh .... i.nponotn.l.lo «n.l inv.nnl,!.. ,.hnl..nx ■:, -•,.-
j;.!. ,.;.,. o,-,/?..,." ,r.a. vi. .,.). In ...0 .na. n.un.l. ..lono .un t .. 1. oun,l, no ..,
. „ni.y ..!■ luUl,, l.-.t uUo a uni.y n, .li..i,.l.nu : ■■ r;/.,v ,.-«//.' .«"'« '- ,W,^/. «./ «^. <
fi/.Jn Ecdsi^- ^»i. .'H II,. innuoriul P.u. I.\. Thi-. iKUunlu .nnon u .„o «,v... ...
IHT(. h.'«'h.n;i:.l.n.oweM,. .v,.l 11.0 .•u,.v.ll.0Har.i..o,.,.....i 1".|, ho.. o..o„.,o. :
nL..n, ,/./... .J.U,.. Tl„». i. ..I o .v.. wl.y ^\. A,....!.. ... Paul w\U ...
•• (,>«.w a „mum morMn ,1 u.,H:,l,tH vuhic ,„■ ,xh mvum .vn.><»>„»,un. t< -al v. 1..;.
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,i>|i.,|i: id ll.o... a.-i-oj... Lis omiii..;... i.in u.,
I.l ros|.ect; those ai-e isv.i i..so|,ai-al.le .li.tios.
mkto." (i'o.i.ilL'al.) WLa.ovoi' iho a^o,
(..8al>slil..lo hiiiisoll lor his ucclosias.ioal
11. 1. 1.1 o.vi't, so lo s|.fal<, in.l|iil M;iaiii~t
iiii^coiial acis or ilociiin'iiis, ai.il .hi.s .o
II thoi.i hiii.soirio his piivalo jii.lj;.noi.'.
T. this liiiai lioi'ility yoi. will (■oM>laii
•• Promitlin ini/ii riv>''iiti<iii '' nbi'lmiliani
scioiico, .-ihilitios of a prio-t, h.- is .lovor all"
siiporio.'- lo f,'..iiio oitl.or ll.o .Iru'y or llio '
pulpit, to criticiso, lo oclis.lif lo.ii.'l(,'e ii
iii'1'iisio..i ill' iioo.ili! lo iii.iiorv.ili.o lIioih. lo - . . , .
N ;.lon:l . '.r k lo,l,o ovor .ivo .. n^. to .lo^..- -ho lawf. ,l.or..y o. tho ,„>
L..rs; I i.loaloiio..ai.i..spi..otiial.ooli..Ko. ..poriority ovor tLo>o who havo .voo.v...!
1.,,,.. !.•..." "I"'- ti-« '-"--" "■•'' "'« ^^■■''■' '" «'"■•"'•" " ■ '''""•'■ ■ "'"' '■ " ';''"' ""': ■
The .,!.,...■: .■.Vo.a or .1.0,0 .■ri.i..is„.s is to shako ih. :.l...a.T powor ol .ho Kpisoopaoy, .....
to hrin.' a plorahlo Uliarchy; " Vhl mm e,l gnUcr.ator, ,>o,mhi^ rorrn,'/. (/'<„•. X,, 1.,.)
For ,.uco.M,. '' .o St. (;vpriai., ll.oro is l.ut ono opi-..o,.:.<.y .ui.loi l.otwoo.. .li.Voro,.l n.o.u-
boi-s, of whi. ^oa.O. O..0 1. .-sossos a pari joiiiliy a...l sovorally ; - J'Jj.sropatu. „uu. e.f, n,)uH
a Hbujtdk ii, ,ll,hn,i. i>a,;i tewtur." (De uidtate EeeU^Uie.)
And ho- ,e.s, genllcMnen, if wo lay out tl.o rulos whioh lay writors have to ohsorvo in
poiomu's, si,.: u.o p.lo.sts he ablo to boliovo ll.om8..,vu« exo.npL ..'o.n ll.o .•ulos .' It wo
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,1, Uk. U.iM^'s wir,.lMlin.rily or u.anTWl. . la ^ . ^^^^^^,^^ ,„,iui,o ot our
,,,;..,,. ,l,oM.moM.lmu.>.von.'s<. .i,c -u.u ic 1 ^ ^^^^^^^^ ,5,,,,,^ of ll.c cau.liaal.s a..! oi
,,„ ,„„ ,v.M ,noro nUM,on„.s rousons ':"';^'>':'^; '„,,;, ,.,io,.ls ..,,l..>,a p-innplos :M,d
.io-lrino. r l.m„ca Wv tin" .•hmrh an.l a:.H.. ^ .^_^^_^^^^ _,^^ ^, .,,,^^ ;, ^ „„, ,„„na.k
cncnies; .hoy ais.ni.. ;l,oir .ou.iou-.^ as • ^^^^ . .
„,.,„,clvosus.oonas.l,oyM,ovo.hoyoan.l..s..., 1
, .,,1 t) ihc iiaiuo ot C'atl.alios. are ll.o
.r„,soalvo.sanosorroli^i ^^'"•''"'""7:;';;;:^,,,,, .,„„„ .lu-y lu-po .0 .a,n ,„
same even wl.o,-o; >i-y <1='>'^'' ""'^^•' """";,. "L aoiu.unoo o. .i^l-l .l,oir ,o..vo,.o
i„,o . ,,olilioal .rilmno; .lu-y -laro >""-".'";' " " ^^.„ ^,,.,, , ,„aoavo. even U, t-.-o
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^'--'"-'" ""•'• '"^''•'- ' ,„i,...,.e!oo,ion, .or having
, ^,nos^aoonseao.■i,avin.o.o■.po,l...--W^ ,,,. ^,,,,.„., ,,„ ,,., ,
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-'--'"'•' ''''''l'-^'::;'::.. a!. ooolo-ias,io:aoo,„.,.
,iv,l..onr,ana,.loaaaMa,M-> , ,,, . ,.,„vi,u-ial CounoUs ami
n.lnl- it nninor, -oullomon, .0 roj-oat to
,„„ ,„o wise ,. .•000,.,. o. U,o '^""<7-^,,^:;„; :,,.,,, , .,,o„,lo ,l,o .e„o--al ,u,o.
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;;,la..Ml.enae.w..oha...n,,.o, u,o,.3 .^ ^^^^ „,^,„ ,,,0 aoofe ■ o.' ,1.^
alone belong, -ho ri,l.. .0 jna.e hou a - ^ ^,,, ^,,, ,,„^,,, (.ur ,,a.to.-al oU
F„u,'th('o'"'"il"'-^i'>^''^^-'^ ^■"'■> "'":" * ' , 1 ,nnsl raise l.is voioc, no. only as oii./.on.
^•'^imposoa by our Fourth Council
i'.i:i(>
83
•n,o,„.o.e,„„i,«,. "-"'■;7i:";r:::;:^';:s:;;::::;r':::i:l":';-
u \ms oviinn r.piuoU ante.,ua,n de cUct, mhus facmd.s a^atur.
..- ..0 ne.es.,., . p,u ... .u„„..> -n •'•^;--;;:-;:;;::t,;;r;'r :■;';;:
..olipou., a.Kl to teach then, true |„.iM,M|.,os, an ^''^l' "■' ^"j ' j^.^, „„ „,o o,l,or
..i.e,.o..ti,e choice of. can,li,Ue I ^l^^:;^^^^^:^^^ C. .he ,n..,.,t. .,.es-
,,„„,. it is easy to uxdersta,.,! tnal voa ,on>t «'^:^'"" ' ' ,„,.„„,i .einark. .o any one.
I'.HiO lions ,,u.oly temporal and profane, o,- ''•--M-l'b'n^' - ' ^ ' ^^^^^^^ ^^, ^.„ , _ ^
us our rir.,l Coancl doch.res it in the a.lvK-o «.ven to the p.c.al. I
parties; his consc^ience an^i ins character woaM le "-''-,„„,;,,; ,„i,„,es of so„>e
L,re, when, on accoant of the principles, -'-"'-; ;;;.;^' Z,^,^ -1 -->■•>•• '-
can,lida.e, he shall he ohli.ed to speak on "; ' ^^ J ., ,,7she.i then u.eles.ly.
ronnrUs will have much more weight and auihont), il U^
Oentlon.n, n.ay these paternal In.s >-« --^^Zd^r 1"?."'^
us to address to you, cou.rihnte to .-;-"- -""^ 3 ^ Z^.n.ay "t .peech and aCion
which lu.-Uways characterized the t^MKuinmU 2 J^.U^.-^^ J^_ ^,^^^^. ^,^,^„,„.^ ,
U,70 which has permitted them to render so -;' ^ " ' ^ ^, ,; as your Bishops are closely
M.v you all have hut one heart a.ul one sou -^ >"- "^ ,^ ,,,,, eonnnuni.y in
„„iu.d tof;ether and. with the Supreme Head ot the Clunch, > I
tlioir views and sentiments.
,„ „„. ,„,.. Wc .„«» , a«,i».c,y, » ««.! »^ ." .'» »•"""' ™""~ "■
your earo.
•j- E.-A., Alien. OF QUEBEC,
t 1(4., niSlI. MONTKEAL.
* t L.-F. man. '^k' TIIKEE-RIVEUS.
t .lExVN, 11I8U. OF S. G. I). RIMOITSKI.
t K.-C. BISU. OF (IRAriANOPOLIS.
l.,S(» t ANTOlNi-^Bis""''"'"^'"""""^'-
t J. THOMAS, BI811. OF OTTAWA.
L.-Z. MOiUiAU, PKIEST, ADM. ..K «T. ..yAr.Ni..«.
S4
!>H.,„l.int\s Krhihit \o. ^\ produced with the evidence of ./. Ixrad T»rU, I'Jur'"
this VUh Sejdi'.inber, l>iO.
ACCOUNT OF SUMS PAID TO VAHIOUS CAUTKUS.
JSTti. l8T Carteus.
.lany. tilli. <i(!orf;e.s (iai^non, 1 jonrnoy to St. Urbain ^ '_■'
•' Tth. Aiitoiiio Liivoic, 1 (I.) •''> ',j.
l;,<)0 " 8tli. (Jeoi-es (i!iit;noi., Ijoinnuy tothe lowoi-i.arl of thcbuy 'j>
" loih. .losoph Simard, 1 jounioy to EUmlomonts •'5 "0
" " Israel Di-olol, 1 do to St. Antoino '"''
.< " I-VrdinandLavoie.toliisson Alln-d,d.)dolol'otitoUivio.v I 01)
" ■' Thcopliilo Simard, on ;ii'ct. t'tjoui-iiey's - |J^'
" lltli. do do iift't. ol' 1 }<uriiey..... -■'
■' 12 Nrael Drolet, 1 jonrtiey lo La (loiidroniioiio -
■' ■' (Jeorjfos (iiij,nion, 2 do do to I. a Roini •'
.. " Ferdinand Liivoio, I journey to Si. Uiifrt ''••
" •' .lo,>ei)li Ga-non 1 journey to Ivi (Ion lionoi-ie and to La
' ,, . ■ 1 "a
oi^nA J\i'ini
"'"'^ . .. Joe.Sin,ard do do to I'eiron 1 ;.'•
.. .. Alinvl Perron do do loSlAntoine 10i>
.< .. To the same do >io to Latioudronneru- 1 -;>
" Kitl,. Adolpho(;a:;no.or(ia,icnon 1 do d. to Martu.e... 2(11)
ii >■ Kordinand liavoie lorconveiiinf,' a moetini,' 1 "*»
.1 '■ .Io>e|ili Ciiuon 1 journey to 'lalliaie ■* '_'"
Paid for 1 journey lo St. .lo.-^opli \ •'"
'. Uih. Paid to Tlieopliile Simard for previous j.mrney's iw •> <"»
.. ■• Wilfred Simard 1 journey to Flioulonionts -J""
.mm u .. I M'aei Drolet do do do ^ ^'_^
-"^ ,. . Ananias Itenau I do do to St Ours and MiMM-e l..>
•' irnh. Jean l{ai.ii>io Bolduc 1 journey to St Urliain Io>
.. nth. .lean IJaptisle l?olduc do do to the Cape !<•'>
.< " Ferdinand Lavoie 1 journey to HIjouleinents :!<»()
.. "■ Alfred I'erron do do to St Anloine l-'»
" '• Theopliile Simard do do I""
„ ., Jo do on '(«. of previous journeys lOD
» " Ceor^es (iafrnon 1 journey to St Antoino 1 -•''
.. <; Adolplie (Jagnon do do do 1^5
,. 18^,, Alfre I Porr..n,l journey to Perron ard to La(io,.dronMt>r.e 2 .r.>
^"•^^' ,. .. Antoine Simard, 1 journey lo St. Af^'ne. u la Ua.e 4 (H)
u i!Hh Wilfred Simard, i journey to the lower part <;f the Bay... .)0
u .. Kerdinami Lavoie, [Alfred] do do lo Perron 1 ^-O
.< ^. NorI.erl Tremblay, do do do 1-0
., u l.srael Drolot, do do do to St. Ours 1 oO
« « Georges Gagnon, do do do to Perr.m I ^^^)
» "■ Joan Haptisle Boldue, do do '-•
u .< Norbert Tremblay; eanoe to notify the people ot La
I 511
(tomlroniiei'io
2Q.5,j ., .. do do from La Goudroi.norie to tbe village 1 t)t>
85
18'
21 IK I
■HU)\\
•jooi>
■it) TO
liny
**■ ri 1 '">
lllth. .(osopli (iiiKMon, 1 journey t"lerron -«
liiMol.oii'rivmlilayf.H-LiHion Lavoic J -^jj
<• Joes .Simar'l, 1 j:)unn'y InSt.Oiii's ••••••
20th. Jcui. liapli^tc Uoldm., 1 journey to tl,o lower pari ot ll.c- ^ ^^^^
,. Wilt J'simiu".i ilo d'. U.l^aMarro 125
.. Adol,,l>oHa«-.on, .lo do to Misoro I ..«
" Kill- a journey lo St Urbaiii "
21at. Konlinand Lavoie, on "«• ot journeys
Israel Lavoie, I journey lo I'etiie Uiviere.... - '»i'^
22n.l. Ferdinaml Lavoie, do do on 'V •>'»
\Vin(v>lasTrenil.lay. on 'V of ajniiiney * ^^
'• .1. H. MoUluf, iwo journeys
.< ill, DWfs ine one ilollar (<1 Oil)
23r(i Israel Urolot. journey lo llie river, on the l.'ape, St.Antome i »m
leniiiuinil Lavoie, 1 journey to St. Irenoe..... | |_''
,, ,],, ,1,, lio La Gouilronniere ' "
.. lioor-e.(ia-non, 1 journey loSt. Urimin to Latiou-lronneiio :! UO
Aphoalre Lavoie, Si. Joseph, ii journeys to Riviere des ^ ^^^^
Moris iit the Capo '
Xorberl TreinLlay, 1 jmirney to St. ll.larion and Khoule- _ ^^^^
""-'Ills
Allied I'erron, 1 journey to La Mane '
Hdoiiard I'erron to La I'etile liivieie
Jo>oi)h (iMfiiioii to St. Ours ■•
W Hired Siinard do do to I'erron and La (.oud-
. I .1 ■ I 2 i)il
roniiene I tliinlJ ^ .
Joseph Siiuar.!, 1 journey to St. Joan and St. Jo.-eph ■- n'
24th Joes .<nuard, I journey to Lulioudi nerle i^'_
To notify llie people lor the meeting '**
do do do IJ"
Melerie Boiieliard, I journey to Malhaie + •'
Maxime Dut.mr. journeys to S.. Anlome and MaUwie ^ >H)
. -'oth J. H. Holduc, fornuiUinfitha tourofthei-aiel think '-Oil
, . Thoophile Siinard, halaneo of his journeys 1
, .. J-ordinand Lavoie, 1 journey to the Township ■« &'•
. . Adolphe (Jagi.on, 1 journey to La I'etite Uiviere and La ^ ^^^^
. >i Poniamin Fortin, to notify the people | *_'''
.. .. Nolior Si mard, journey to La lieini.
u 27th. Paid to the carters einph.yed by I'. Du Tremh.ay 4 o
.. „ Paid Joseph Uouehard, I journey to Qaohoe 1^' |'|^
u .. Emilion Siinard, 1 journey lo ihe city ..•••• •■••• '_
.. . Georfres lioulliare, 1 journey to St. Pilule and St. Simeon. L. tm
i< .' Carter lor myself in town
$218 (Id
8ft
Defendant KAilH So 7 i>r.h,.e.l rcHh tl. .vhl.nr^ of J . I. 'lari.. tl.is HM
• Sejitc'niljfr, /•'^Tti.
ALrOUNT OF Till.: OPKUATOU AT KIJOULKMKNTS VOil TKLKliRAHlIN.;.
21IS(»Dr. Mr. J. URAii. TARTK,lotl.o..i.oratoratKl.ouloinonts.
|K7ti
•iniMi
4th. Juny
nil. "
.-.Ih.
Sll
lOtli
mil
I2lh
lull
i5-.;i
16lh
niii
IBlli
l!)lh
2 1 si
22nii
23rd
any
210(1
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' " '^'"i JJ
'■ '^'••' : 26
1 i\„ Hi>;no.l hloi _^^
1 il" do d ^^^
2 Most-a^^os do do
I Mo^>af;o aii<l livo loUcr- Hfiiiod Kloi • •
:i do sinned lioiilemi aiKl IVIIotier
S .Mc^sagch signod IMloticr l;egagne •' "
I iio^ signelS. ("loinuiil -
;{ .lo signud linidoaii Clomcnt -^^
5 Mos-sago^, .si.iinud Itoaloaii Dogagno _^ ^^^
(I .Mos.sages Nignod ILiuloim Dogagno - • _
i do bigncd do do '^•'
C .Mo> iigi- Mgnod do do ^*
l.s do do r,^
1 do Higned Itouloau "^
820 19
. , . , 50
ItfciMVod in lasli ^
819 (iO
i;uli Scptemlier, lS"t5
Account for l.-lcgianis paid lo Iho operator at liaio Si. Paul.
TEI.KORAMr*.
<quirt!, til
187(i.
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4i
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do 1.53,25.10,40,1.00 ^J -'^
do 30,1.2f,90 ;:^'
do 40. 20, 50, 3tt, 37, 27, 30. 17 -
a„ 41, 44, 2.;, ;i5, 30, 90.15,30 :) .1^^
do 32,20,1.05,47, 25 " "^
do 20,22,50 ••• '
,,0 3.00,25 22,47,37,2a ^ ^^
do 1.30,1.71,31,1.60. 40,25 ;> '^^
do 1.0tl,32,25,50,52.20, 15 ; «;*
do 1.00, 28. 80, 53, 30, 57, 25, 90, 08, 30 •> 67
do 27,2.02,30,51,50,15,41,18 * ^"l
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J.iny. jrnii. a<- i-'to ^ ""
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iippoHod tlmt to 1)0 J1.30.
2l4i
Mhulant's HMhit No. l>, pro^hx'ed Vith Ihurmher, 1876. *.///. th. ././.o.sif.lo. or'
./. hmel Tat'te, KiK/tnir.
Account of sims i'AH' vok house hire.
House Hire.
Juny. 'Jtli Floront Trombluy, I.iro of \m i ouho tor u ineooiin-.... - IMI
.' Uth Bonimvonturo Diitbur, mcolinj; sit tlie (imiid Choiiiin .... HO
'• 15th Francois Tiiryoon, meeting 1^"
.- mh Fr. Savard ^^
" a'inilAle.KunilreTiei-.blay
" 24tti Kobort Uoily, hire of his house 3 evenings " ""
911! :
NS
iImI'. IH7«, with llif •! |(«Hilli.ii .■!
,1 |.iiu>l Tnrif KHiiiiirv.
A-voM... nr ......,,.....) ...Ml- W Mow |{is...inlnr ml
Mai.baik.. '2411) Jiuiimry, lS7n.
.ilfiU
|)H. II. ..N. II. I'. I'VNUKVIN,
To \Vii».w I'. IfiveaiN.
Fruin lilt' :inl i'>
241I1 .liinmii'.v.
■jir,n
1 1 . \l , 1., |h.|.\ lllhl VulUiu. .''I"'"'**""'* '"' •^'''•
■|\v.> mi'iiK tiil<i.|i I'V M<.>^i''. "") '"" ' , „„
1 Wl' IIIOIII" IIIKl'll "J .'I" r.^. 2 Oil
Mr Laii«*'viii ; 3;.
■> , Is .,.U..n hv Mr. |-..lU..ior^ ran..... Uc.,. .ulI .'.nv o. ln--l.o.HO 1 ...
K„,. ,n,u, I.. an.l .H-.,i,i:i.i..ii of M..> 'f^-''" ;'••;'- ^ .iO
■i moals lauoii Uy Mf- Valle.. _
UiTcivoil I'aynvMit,
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EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE PETITIONERS.
PROV
,1NCE OF QUEBEC. . SUPERIOR COURT.
DUtrict of Saijwnny. J
THE DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
Election of a Member to the House of Commons for the Electoral District of Charlevoix.
Malbaie, the third day of July, 1876.
Present: — The Hon. A. B. Routiiier, J. S. C.
No. 14.
BRASSARD et al.,
Petitioners ;
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Defetidant.
Evidence on the part of the Petitioners.
The. Hou. n. L. Lanokvin, C. B., of Quebec, being duly sworn upon thn Holy
Evangelists, doth depose and say: —
I am the Defendant in this case. I know the Rev. Mv. .Joseph Sirois, Parish Priest,
(cure) of La Baie St. Paul. I have seen him during the election. I have spoken to him.
Vv'e spoke of the election then going on. The conversation had no special interest : it only ran
upon my coming into the parish for the purpose of speaking as a candidate, which had given
me an opportunity of offering my respects to him. I do not recollect any thing else about
10 that subject. 1 Inid not spoken to him before the election, not knowing him. I liave just
said that I have spoken to him during the electi(m. and I do not think 1 have seen him since
He must have then said something to me about the election, but I don't recollect what he
said, e.\cept that he was not surprised to see me tiiere, or something to that I'tfect. Hi; did
not then tell me in favor of whom ho was. I understood he was for me : I have no doubt
about that.
Ho did not write to me, and I did not write to him before the election nor during the
election, at least I do not recollect.
I thiiil; he wrote to mo afterwards, but not about the election.
Question. — What was the subject matter of the letter he wrote you since the election '?
20 [Olijectod to liy tho Dcfoiidnnt, becnu.so tlio witness has doclarod that said loiter had
uo reffroiico to the election.]
Aiiniri:r.—1 have aL-eady suid that I Iiad liad uo rchition with tho Rev. Mr. Sirois
sinee the election about the said election. Tlie purpose of tlio letter wliicli he wrote to mo
was to recommend to mo some ono of his parish. It did not at all bear upon the election.
He did not ask mo to run, and to luy knowledge, he did not sit,'ii any requisition to that
effect. I know that my friond.s in tho C(junty snid that ho wa.; for me, and, a, I lia\e already
said. I had no doubt about it.
<'^w»('/ow.— Did you not say, at a public meeting, at liaie St. Paul, and in various
other plaei'S, that you had iiL^en asked or chosen as a candidate by the whole clergy of tho
30 county ?
A,isin,-.—[ do not n collect whethir I used those expressions, but the meaning of my
words was that the cb^rgy of the county were in my favor and wished to see me elected.
1 did not know tliat the Rev. Mr. Sirois liad sjioken for me from the pulpit ; but I
knew that outside of the pulpit lie bail declared himself in favor of my candidature. I did
not know that he was doing what he could to secure votes for inc. I have heard it said, and
I iviiew that he was speaking favorably of my candidature to those who consulted him, in
tho sense abi>ve stated, and I am <piile convinced that during tho struggle ho was not in
favor of my opponent.
[ ari'Ivrd at that ennviction from what was being said in the parish, namely, that one
40 of the reasons why the Rev. Mr. Sirois was not m favor of J[r. Tremlilay's candidature was
b.'cause :dr. Tremblay supported a party whose principles and tendencies the Rev. Mr. Sirois
did not approve of.
Question.— \^ it not true tliat you did not accept the candidature until you had
convinced yourself or had been assured that the whole cle:gy of the county were in your
favor and would support you?
Ausivei:~l convinced myself that the clergy of the county was in my favor, and I
would not have run had it not been so, as I would not wish to have been elected against the
will of the clei'i'v.
50 0'
(JwHtlon. — Is it not true that you reckoned upon the support of the cbrgy for your
ction '?
J;i,v(o<ic.— I reckoned upon tho supiiort of tho clergy as one of the influences I shotdd
reckon upon in that electoral contest. I have n(;ver been asktnl as a candidate by any priest
of the county, either directly or indirectly. I did know that the clergy of the county
wished to see mo in the field. I think that (uio of tho persons that told me so was Mr.
Ouesime Gauthier, a Member of the Local Legislature. I have neither boon asked nor
pressed to run by any priest outside of the County of Charlevoix. I do not at present
recollect any other name besides :\Ir. Gauthicr's. 1 have received a re<iuisition signed by a
groat numher of electors, asking me to run, and, as far as I can recollect, the reipiisition
mentioned the fact that tho clergy wished to soc mo a candidate. I recollect having been
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(JO pir-.('iit III n piililio nU'i'tiiij,', al tin; cimi'fli iliiov of KImhiIoiuciiIm, oii ii liulnluy or il Siiinliiy,
nliciv I 111! t 111' lion. Ml'. Ciuu'lioii. Tlic ijiioslion at stiiki' IhIwimmi Mi', (.'luichoii oil out'
rtiil'. iiinl Ml-. Tart'' ami inc on tlic otlit'r. was to know wlutlu.'r tho whole i-k'rtjy of tln'
county was for iin', as wu stat "il it.
','//(. v^/i),/. Is is not trui.; iliat on that occasion, Mr. (ios.scliii, vicar at Eboiik'niciita,
iutrrvcncd, and, without any contradiction from your part, stated that you had bcou
rcqucstod to run i)y the whole clerjJiy I'i the comity without exception?
[Objected to by the Defendaut, inasniuch as it would tend to prove Mr. (cosneliii's
af,'e!icy, whoso imino is not included in the list of [larticulars.]
iOlijection siistaiiu'd. The ipiestion not allowed as it tends to prove the saying's of a
70 person who is not a party to the case (ipti ii'e^t jjax en can.'ie), nor lueiitioued ui the hill of
particulars.]
(The Petitioners take exception to the ilecision (/'xciiicul (W« '/'.'cm/ou) of the Court,
and n.'scrve for tlu'inselves the riijlit of haviiii; the siuue revised.]
1 know the llev. Mr. Chiq Mars, cure of St. Simeon. I have spoken to hiiia twice
dmiiiL; the election, and on both oceasions we spoke about the election. The first time I saw
hi!:i it hi . I' ideiice. 1 had f^oiie to that parish in order to speak at a jmblic raeetinj». 1
took advantage of uiy visit there to go and see the cure of the parish. I told him what my
end was in coming to St. Simoon, and he seemed to be in favor of my candidature, as I
already supposed he was. I saw the Rev. Mr. (JiiKj Mars for the second time the' day after
80 the votiii'4; I met him at Mailiai.' ; I think hi.' uas going to (jiiehec. He cougraliilaled me
upon my electiiai. 'i'lie first time 1 saw him, he neither told me nor gave'me to understand
how he would act. I did iK.t see him long, as the Forty Hours ((Jnnrante lleui-f.t) were
then being held in the parish.
','('«//()/(. --l>i(l ymi have -uiy knowledge, directly or iinlireetly, of
or doing during the election in regard to said election :'
what he was saviiiu
.\}isirpr. — No, nothing particular. \Vh''ii I say nothing jiartieular, I m"an to say that
nobody tolil me what he was diuug during the eleeiinn, The other things I knew were
of the >anie nature as what I have said ab.ive, that i,^ to say, l\lr. Oncsime Uauthier
toKl me that tlej whole clergy was for me aii.l desired to see mo a candidate.
90 I- know till' Ui. V. Mr. Tremblay, Cure of St. Fidiile. I saw him once during the
election, and 1 spoke to him about the election, as 1 did to Mr. Ciiii] Mars. The intorma-
tioii I have had about liis conduct during the election, was of the s uue nature as that I have
had touching Mr. ('iii(( ^lars. 1 know the Uev. Mr. lioy. Cure of St. Ireiiee. I sjjoke to
him twice during the election. Wc spoke of my candidature. The tirst lime I was passing
through his parish, I went to him to iiresent him my respects and make his ac(piaiutauce,
for I knew liiia no morr than the other priests of the county to whom I luiil never spoken
before. I told him who I was, and that, while being in his parish, I wished to show him my
respect by calling ujmn him. 1 think that the above is what took phice at the said int(;r-
view. it was a Sunday evening when i went to see liiin for the second time. I was gouig
100 to a meeting ill his parish. He told me tiiat it se^.iaed there were some drunken men who
^isugumiumt
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wor. on.,a.n. . .Usturl.auco l.oforo tho op..-.in, of tho .u..tn„. ut that ho ^^^"-f^^
,,-ro hut few. I wout t. tli. mo.tiu,. a.ul aft..' that 1 raur.K.l to h.. j. aco to bul him
f,,,„,ll ,,,i ,, toll him what UO.S0 thoro ha.l h. a at tho .neoth>«. Uo told ma how norry
ho was fo. tho couauct of tho.0 fow por.ouH who w.r. K.vin« a ha.l r..,.ut., *o a i-ar.Hh
.,th,.nv...,..ae.ful. I -lo not i-rotcua to «ivo hi. v.,' •^".U, hut only tho g-n.ral touor
o our conL.at.ou. Th- iU., ^[r. Uoy H.omoa to m. to he iu n.y favor. I have rcce.vod
no lutt,r. from iu.u ..ith.r h.foro or -luvh.K tho ckctiou. I hav., rcco.vo, ouo letter from
huuHU.c.th. .l...et.ou. which had no rof-rcmco to tho contest; .t wan a .out tho trouhl
thoy w.re ..ndeavourinK to ..vo lam through a co.nplaint aul agam. lam ho^ro the
1 1 Archhishoi.. l>v Mr. Tromhlay. Uo denied tho truth of those charges. I lu..w i>e liev, J
Doucet. G ro -.f Malhaie. I spoUe to hi.a ouco during the election. ea le, on lu. a
his residence and told him why I was calling. It was the san>e reason that had mducod m
to visit th- others momhevs of the clergy in the county. I did not wr>to lam nor d.d he
writ(; nie aixiul tho election. '
,.,„,,„„.^4s it not truo timl. at a i-uhUc u.oeting held at the church door at Mali.aio
vou publicly stated that you had been asUed for hy the whole dcrgy of the county and tha
"the electors were hound to obey the voice of their cure, [Jm.i.n, r.;.,rr la ..,,■ ,le leur n,.,)
oraomethhig in tiiat sense and to that elTect?
,„„,,.,• -I do not recollect the very words 1 may have used on that occasion hut
what I'may have said wa. iu conformity with .-hat 1 had .aid in tho other parishes of the
couutv. viz.: That the clergy of the county were in favor of my candidature and desnedt
As to whether 1 have sa.d that th.. p..ple should listen to tV voa. ot the cer.^yd^^^^^^^
,,,.,,. ,hether [ stated it on that occasion, hut .t was decidedly my opinion- and if I lid not
Z s V so I must have said it elsewhere. 1 know the Uev. Mr. Ambroise lafanl. Cur6 of
"r an 1 tluulc 1 saw him twice. I spoKe to that gentleman about the election on
that occasion, as 1 have al.o done on the other occasions when I met other members of he
tl Th «^"tl--» ^i'^ -^ -'^'' ^" - ^"f-" ""^ '^"^'"^ ?" c eetion; smco the
eUon he wroe once or twice, hut I don't think that ho spoke ot the elec ion m that or
hos letters, lie gave me no special information during the election It is not to my
?:::i^ thatMr:Fa.irdhas canvassed tho county, or part ..f it euhor alone or wi^
. Ci uithier, ab„ul the el,.ction. I know Mr. Israel Tarte, of Quebec, a ,ournahst. He
w : r <'l.-u.u agent. 1 do not think that Mr. Tarte did anytimg to favor my
Zt l>efore the beginning thereof. 1 did not sec him with Mr. Onesuue Gauthier before
i :iao icomont of the election. During the contest 1 had frequent mtereourse with him
1 tie election. He was instructed to take all legal and necessary measures lor the
:t ^f t^'lection. especially in tho upper part of tho county. I laid mysdf to take care
Tthe lower part of the county, and of the parishes below Malbaie. Ho came only once to
Malbaie, aiul immediately went back to Bale St. Taul.
I know the Rev. Mr. Laurumlt, Cure of Petite Riviere St. Fran^ois-Xavier. I sawlum
110 at his plac dunag tho ele.tioa. I have to state about tho said iiiter.iew what I hav
Id stated abe.it luy iaterview with Mr. Doacet, aiul the mformatioa I have had
1 a e^ his conduetduringth. election is of the same nature as that obtained from the
t ur... above-mentioned. I know Mr. Langlois. Cure of St. Hibirion think I saw
Z^oL during the election, and I .epoat about him what I first said about Mr. Lauriault.
i:JO
I know Mr. Josqih Kiino, of Miilbaio, notary. 1 Imvo laot him tliroo or four ♦iniox
aiirin- til.' lat.' .•l.'ctioii, iiiul i-'V.rv tiii..^ wo HpoUo of tlio cU'ctiou. I know tl.iit ho whh oh.' of
my liLi.ls. aii.l that ho huHio.l hiiiiHolf with tho ..kclioii. From tho information I then liail,
I nu.h.rrttood that lio wan more busy about tho dpctiou than tho Konorahty of my frimdH.
Kv. ry timo I met Mr. Kauo and any othor iuthiontial friemlH in tho county, I UHcd to
150 o.Kiuiro about tho oloction. and thoy tol,l mo what thoy linow. I tiiink ho must havo
rtUK;^o4'ia to m'l to bol.l one or two of thn n.ootin«H I oalkul in tlio parish of Malhaio, wlioro
ho^livod. [unlorsto..,lthathMwoiko.lformo, hut I cannot nay how actively, for I only
l.M,ss.ja throuK'h tho (litToront i-arishos to a.Mross tho olcctorH. I .lout think Mr. Kane camo
t.) moot mo at Haio Ht. I'aul, with a roquiHitiou or other documents. I think Mr. Kano told
mo that ho had hiniHolf boon askod to run by a lar-o jx.rtion r.f tho oK-ctora from tho lowor
part of tho county. I havo biion inforiuod tliat ho had rotirod in my favor.
1 know Mr. .hisopli StaniKlas Porranlt, of Malhaio, advocate. I met him many times
durin- til) ehiction. Wo spoko togothor of tho election. Ho told rao what ho know
,tn.l "what waH Koin- on. 1 know ho was takiuf? a part in tho election
100 liko Mr. K.ino, and I must say of him what I havo said of Mr. Kano,
oxc 'i.tiii" tho !al.or's candidature 1 know that they both worked for my olootiou, especially
in the lower p.irt of tho county. 1 know Mr. John McLaren. 4 «t. Sun.5on. I doti't know
whether ho in a forest ran.,'.'r. 1 saw him once at his rnsidonce durin;,' tho last election I
had "one to his parish for a moetin-, and I improved tho occasion to pay a visit to the Rivifero
Noire Kstablishment, and .Mr. McLaren who, is I think, at thoir head. I knew ho was a
Unidin.' man in tho parish. I anticipated tliat lie was in my favor, and he savo me to under-
stand "so. As far as 1 can recollect ho did not tell mo that ho had worked or was about to
work for mo, but he gavo mo some information about tho fooliu!,' in tho parish with respoct
to tho election. I also recollect havins scon .Mr. McLaren at the moetin^ at which I was
170 pr,.sont in tho pansl, of St. Simoon, or in that of St. Fidole ; I an. not sure whore ,t was,
but I think it wa. at St. Simoon. Nothing? particular took place botweon him and rao
on that .occasion. Mr. McLaren had word.s with Mr. Tremblay. my opponent, at that
mootin.' but, as far as [ can recollect, ho made no speech. Mr. Tremblay had assorted
so.o lan- c.ncoruin- Mr. McLaren, and the latter not agrooin- with Mr. Tremblay
about it, harsh words wore used. I was under tho irapressiot. that Mr. McLaren was
m my favor, but I kn.'W not to what extent ho was workiu^' for mo.
I know Mr. Denis Gautbier, of St Fidcle. merchant. 1 saw him two ov three times
durin<' tho lato cont 'st. Wo spoke of tho election toj-ethor. I understood ho was for mo.
I saw" him on tho occasimi of tho mootin,; I held at St. Fidele. I dont recollect whether
180 tho mooting took place attor mass or vospors : I should think ho was present. I must say
about him what I havo said about tho abovo-namod gentlemen, that is to say I knew ho was
in favor of my candidature and worked for mo but I do not know to what extent. It is very
possible and" I even think that tho said Mr. Denis Gautbier wont the next day with
mo to St. Simeon. I know Mr. On.5simo Gautbier, tho local member for tho county.
I saw him during and before tho election ; he is one of the first i^ersons who
spoke to me about my candidature. I saw him many times durmg the e loction.
The fir.t time Mr. Gautbier spoke to mo, he asked me if I would consent to run
^„.,i„Ht Mr. Tromblav. I answered him that I would run if I were the only
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candidiito agaiust Mr. Tremblay, if the clergy seomea to ino to be in my favor,
190 auil if thu electors of the county who were opposed to Mr. Tremblay seemed disposed
to vote for me. I imderstood that uudor those circiimstauces he would support me. I did
uot accept tlie candidature at that int. rview. He made mo the offer a second time, and
I then understood tliat he had gone into the county and satistied himself that I would bo
the only candidate against Mr. Tremblay. IIo told mo that I would have the support of
the clergy. I understood that he had met at liaio St. Paul a certain nuinoer of the priests
of tho county. I may have mot Mr. Onesimc Gandreault, of Ste. Agues, merchant, but
I don't remember him. I know Mr. Pascal Gauthior, of Sto. Irdnee, merchant, I met
him and spoke to him diuiug tho last election. I think I stopped twice at his place,
perhaps three times. Every time 1 went to see him, it was witii tho object of speaking
200 of the election. I knew he was an inllueutial man in that locality, and I was anxious to
secure his support, as well as that of all the influential and even the uninfluential men in tho
county. On passing near his place and that of other electors I knew, I have stopped in
order "to glean information as to tlio tooling iu tho parish, and from him and others I learned
how tho election stood. From my conversations with him I understood that ho was working
in the interest of my election. I don't think I asked him to show any zeal, as I knew he
was in my favor. I know Mr. Vinceslas Tremblay, of Baio St. Paul, merchant. I have
spoken to him of the election during the last contest. I saw him many times. I knew he
was in my favor. Ho was * iking a part in the election, but I don't know to what extent.
I know Mr. Pamphilo Tremblay, of Ste. Anne de la Pdrado, laud surveyor. He was in the
91 A county during tho last election, and I have spoken to hhn many tnues. We generally
- spoko'of the election. I know that he was for me ; he was working for my election. I
know Mr. IJarthelemi Bouchard, of Malbaie, merchant. I spoke to hhn many times
during the last election, and generally about said contest. I think he lives in the next
house" to the one whore I stopped. I knew that he was in niy favor, and was working
in the interest of my election, but I don't know to what extent. I know Mr. Abdon Cot6,
of Quebec, mercliant. I saw him at Bale St. Paul. It was not at my request that he camo
and worked at my election. I don't know who asked him to come. I was also aware that
Hon. Mr. Angers, of Quobec, Advocate, and then Solicitor-General for the Province, had
come to work for my ejection. I saw him once or twice in tho county. Mr. Adolphe
900 Carou, of Quebec, advocate, came and workod for my election. I learned that lie was iu
"" the county. I saw him twice. I know the Hon. David Price, senator. I s-iw him iu tho
county during the election. I know he was working for tlio success of my candidature.
Ileariied that Mr. Caron, Mr. Angers, and Mr. Cote made speeches in the county. I
mideistood that Mr. Price had come to work in my hiterest, but I don't know what kind
of work he was doing.
I know Mr. George DuBergor, of Mall)aie, hotelkcoper. I have seiu him once during
the election ; it was at cliuich ; ho invited mo into his pew ; he told me his name was
DuBergor. I don't think I had anything else to do witli that gentleman. The account,
exhibit A of the petitioners at ,m,»W,', being shown to mo, I declare it to bo correct, at least as
2-40 my personal expenses, which uniount by tho said account to one hundred and fifty-five
dollars and twenty-five cents. To tho best of my knowledge, the twelve hundred and forty-
three dollars and eighty-seven cenis, being the amount of said account, are the actual
;uu )uut of my Gxponsos, .luring ths election now in qiKJstiou. Darin- tlio clootion I suppUod
Mr. Turtfi with tlw money that wan n'.'Cusssiry for my Ioj^mI expuusos for sai.l election.
The smn I so paid liim r..aeh(Ml one thousaua and oighty-oight dollars and .ixty-two cout^i,
as raontioncd in the said account. I speak of tho tirao when the account was sent to the
Returning Officer. Since tlmt time, other small accounts must have hoon paid, but I don't
know the^amount thereof. Mr. Tarte never shewed mc that account before sending it to
the Eoturning Officer. When T s-iw it puWislied in tho newspapers, I supposed that my
.)10 a-ent had paid nothing but legal exiKMisos. I was in my seat hi Parliament all that time.
" Perso.ially, 1 know nothing of what Mr. Turte paid. I left all in his hands, being conhdeut
that he would not pav anything illegal. Tho small accounts I mean and which have boon
paid since tho general account has been fyled. probably reach ,?100 or §150. I am
not positive as to the figure. I left Quebec on the IlOth of December, an.t I think I
returned there on the 2Gth of .January. Tlioso who came and spoke for mo did not come at
tlie beginning of the electoral campaign, excepting Mr Tarte. 1 did not hand to Mr. Tarto
tlio said sum of §l,()88.G-2 at one t,mo, bui by varioiH amounts. When Mr. Tarte asked
me for money, he did not account for the use of the sums he had already received.
1 have read the judgment delivered by the lion, the President of the Court about the
.^rn coutest:Ul..n of the eleeliou of Charlevoix m the year one thousand ei;,d.l liuu.lred and seventy-
four after it had b..eu laid and read before the House of Commons at Oltasva in the month of
F. bruarv last, together with the judgment of the Court of Review. [ had heard it said tiiat
there wJre two judgments, the first (Mie from the lion, the President of the Court, and tae
.econd one from the Court of Review. I did not know that certain parties had been reported
as -uilty of corrupt eb.etoral practices. I had not seen those judgments before tho month 'f
February last. 1 knew that Mr. Onosime (lauthier hal taken part in the election of 1871,
but as I did not then think of being a ca.ididato myself in that county when the judgments
were rendered, I had only noticed the voiding of tho election. 1 think it was generally
know>i during the election that th<. clergy was in my favor >nd opi>osed to Mr. Tromblay s
orn candidature. I did not then know that many cur6s in the county were speakmg agamst
Mr. Tre.nblay and tho party ho belonged to, hut 1 knew that tie. clergy condemned
the principles of that party and consecpiontly would not support a candidate professing tho
saul principles. I read during the election a letter from the Bishop of .Riniouski. Mr.
Tromblay was trying to make the electors believe that the Mishop of Rimouski and niy
other brother, the Vicar-General of Uimouski, were not favorable to my candidature. Mr.
Tremblay had also read at a public meeting a letter from the Vicar-Ceneral of llimouski, an
thnui.d, it he had tried to liave. the electors believe that the Vicar-General ot Limousk.
censured me as a public man. On that occasion 1 telegraphed and wrote to my two blathers
what had taken place, whereupon the Bishop of Uimouski wrote me a letter m winch .alludmg
270 to what had occurred and also to the principles of the party that Mr. Iremblay was
supporting, he among other things said that a man who acted in such a manner was a
dangerous man. I read the said letter at a public meeting. I don't think I have preserved
that letter.
Cross-Examined.
I never hired Mr. Onesimo Gauthier as my agent. I never asked him to work for
ino. I have read the judgments I speak of m my examination in chief at Ottawa m tlie
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280
8
Votes ami ProceccUugH of the House of .Jommou.. in February last. I rr«-ntly pro.lucc
aud fylca true copy of the said Votes and Procceabgs, dated I'cbruavy lOtb, 187G, aud
marked as cxliibit 13.
Ee-Examined.
1 am m the habit of rcadiui^ tho uow^mpor Le Caruxdlca. I don't recollect l.avins
read the above-mentionod judgments m it or el«e>vhere ; iu fact T read them ouly m the
Votes aud Prococdhigs of tho House of Commous, as already stated by mc.
By spying: "AVlien the judgments were rendered, I had noticed only the fact of
the voiding of the election," I .ueant to say that the only thing that struck - 1-" -
until the 10th of February last, in that respect, in the announcement .duel the jn bh
press may have made thereof, was tho fact that the election of 187^1 .as vo del. but 1
Lpeal that I saw and read the said judgments only after the 10th of February la.t.
The foregoing deposition bemg vead to the witness, the deponent persists therein
290 and declares that it contains the truth, and has signed.
IIEGTOII L. LANGEVIN.
TuUn am? Swcyrn to before me, in open Court, at MMaie, this 3n/ Ju!;,, 187G.
A. B. IIOUTIIIEK,
J. S. C
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DEFENDANT'S EXHIBIT, No. 12.
Fi/l,'il Vllh Si'i.temh,',-, 1870, C.IK
DETAILED STATEMENT ol' MY PKRHONAL EXPENSKH,
Doo. 31st, ISTf), my Quebec cartor !? ^ 00 A
Jim. Titli, 1870, Cii'orgo Roulliiuu", '-nrti r
300 " ifitli. "
" lOth, "
" 27tli, "
1875. Doc. isntli ami 31st, ToU-gatcs
187(1. Jun. 2otli and 20tli,
2 on
5 00
1 00
rj 00
73 00 ;
GO
00
For hii'o of a two
liorso sleigh, from
the Otli of January
to the 27th of same
month.
91 20
Doo. liOth and 31st, 1875, Board at FiUon's, St. Joaeliim
Jan. 2nd, 1870, Board at A Trcmhlay's, Eboulomunts
" Dth, " 2 days for me, carter, &u
310 2Uh, " Mr.s. Widow Rivcriu, days' Board, 1 day for
my carter and his horso, and one meal
" " 2Gth Board nt Filion's, St. Joachim
2 meals and those of carter and his horses
Jan. 1st & 3rd, 1870, Telegram
" 8th, " "
2 35
320
Uth,
15th,
17th,
2Ut,
22ud,
23rd,
21th,
2oth,
8rd,
8th,
Stamps
(a
5
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19
70
2
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3
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1
80
4
75
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2
50
2
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2
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8
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5
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8
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25
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33 ao
80 75
$155 25
(Sioned,) II. L. LANGEVIN.
Qj() I'AN'AKA, 1
P1{0V1NCK OF QUKBEC,
Dlnlrlcl (if Siiiiiunay. )
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SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED KLEGTIONS ACT, 1-74.
No. II.
0. liilASSAltD, KT Ai<.,
Petitioners.
[ION. II. L. LANGKV[N,
DufeuJmil,
•(•he li(.iionil)U' IlccU.r Loiiin Lang.viii, the Dcfemlant in this cus., hoii.g duly sworn.
340 depoHoth and Hfiith :
Tlmt hu hiis ;.,'ivoii his ovidonco in the proHoul case oii the lliird of July h\st (1870)
at the demand of tlie PetitionevH :
That, in -iviu- thf said evidence, speaking of tlie expenses of the said election, he
hassaid: -''Tlie time 1 was speaking of is the time when the account was sent to the
Returning Officer. Since tliat tiiue utlier small accounts nnist have heen paid ; I don't
know thc^amount thereof." Tliat hy tliesc words he did not mean to say that those snmll
accounts have been paid apart from tliosu mentioned in the ( xtract and tlie accounts fyled
and produced hy tlie IteturniugOllicer; that lie has always meant to say and has said hy
these words: -'other small accounts nmst have been paid," that crtain small accounts,
3.jO which have not heen paid before the sending of the general account to the Returning Officer,
and which were part of the said general account, have been since paid ; that the amount of
these snniU accounts and of the other accomits wiiieh from the general account, is covered
by tlio total of §1,088.02, being the amount placd in dilTeivnl tiuM'S at ^Iv. Tarte's disposal
by the Defendant, as often as needed for the electicni expenses, an.l that said amount is that
placed by the Deponent at the disposal of Mr. Tarte, and that he has not given any other
sum ; and the Deponent moreover deckreth that it was only on Simday last, the tenth of
September histant, that he discovered said error of and.ignity when readhig over his
deposition, and has signed,
(Siiin,;h HECTOR L. LANGEVIN,
360 Sworn before me at Malbaie, this \1th da,/ of S-ptmthrr, 1H70.
(Signed) CHARLES DUBERGER,
/>. S. C. S. D.
The affidavit is fyled by consent as being a part of the defendant's former testimony,
together with the account of the Defendant's personal expenses, the Defendant's exhibit
No. 12.
/Si'jnedj F. LANGELIER,
Attormy f.. Petitiouera.
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pitov.NcK OF QURmu-, ( SUPERIOR COU RT.
PlttrlCt H/ Nllljllrllll!/. )
■m
DOMINION CONTROVEriTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1871.
Khvliun iif ii Mtiiiht'rj'iir lite Unfi.ii' of I 'oiiiiiiiiiin fur lln' FAcrloral DtHlricI of Cliarlfniix,
Maldaib, 8i'tl (lay of July, 1870.
No. 14.
I'nESENT :— Hon. A. Jj. IIolthieb, J. C, S.
BUASSABD
KT AL.,
Petiliuiwra;
AND
Vi^
.-»,
Hon. 11, L. LANGEVIN, C. h.,
VeUnilant,
380 Kniliiict till llic /Kirl <,J ^lie I'llitiinicrK.
Nai'cissp noudmril, aged 2n yuiir;., furmcr, of llio parish of St. Simeon, boiiig duly
sworn, dolli depose and say : — 1 linow tlio parties in this case. I am not related, or of km
to, or in llio employ of any of the parties in this cause, I am not interested in tho event of
this suit.
[Objected to ijy the defendant because it is intended to prove tliat Mr. C!inq-Mar.s gave
advico in his capacity of pastor and priest.]
[Objcctiou roscrved.]
1 know well Mr. Cimj-Miirs, Cure of St. Sininm. 1 did not speak to huu about the
last election, but he spoke t i nie on tlie sul)jeet. Me told mo th, ' In vnl.' for Mr. Treuiblay
.^90 would bo a matter of conscience (o(s ile niiisriiiu,). I was then on the road with him. It
was the twentieth of January. He told mu it was a matter of conscieucj {iiii cas ile con-
fcimci') accordiiig to the Councils of ■ Bishops. I was then biiuging him to my home to
visit <omc sick persons, and it was on my way there that he thus spoke to me. I had a
right to vote at last election, and 1 did vote.
ChOSS H.KAMINKO.
On that occasion I went for tho Cure to ask him to come and administer to some sick
people who wore at my house. I did not consult as to what 1 had to do. I was then alone
with him. I did not open tho conversation; it was Mr. Cinq-Mars, lie told mo that ho
had been kept awake very late. Ho told me that according to the C'luncils of the Bishops
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to the Coma-iU of BinLoim. llu -li.l nnt r.lVr at all to tlu' UisliupV uiiiuaut-s (,/,. m..m/..
»,.■»/-). I ciiuuol rciia or writu. Wlu'ii I hnvr uukI.' up my luiinl I Cullow it, iih.l at tl.u hut
«l..ctiou I act.Ml aa-r,UuK to liiy couvieti..n«, What Mr. Cin.iMiir>> mill .li-t n-.t in th.- h.'Hst
altH- my cp"''"". I I'hvo «rwit cnufi.b.ieu in Mr. ('in-i-Marn. H- mxn i,.if> dly trah.|ml
wljii. hu spoil.-, aua .li.l not at uU K.ok like au .1. .Mion cuuvansur. 1 liavu a -..o-l m.'m.,.y,
au.l 1 nr .ll.ct w.U \Nimt Mr. CiiLi-Mar.. ^ail on that oocuHion. I ropeated thin circmuHtanco
(Hno,^ii»,r<-) t., no .UK'lo 1 .piphaiio Savard. ul Halo d.'H U.H'lur., on th. foll.)win^' -lay, tho
21st .January, at my ImMsu, wlunu ho had como. 1 spoko of thi. to him In-eau..' I Ih.M.-ht
it so ..Ktri.onUnarv. aki.ous^h it did lu.t alt.'V my opinio... I th-m know that Mr. I'.piplu.n.'
410 Havard w.is working m favo,- .,f M,-. Tromhlay's oloction. I sw.mr posit.v.ly tli.it .... th.,
ocasiuu in .lu.'stion Mr. C.„.|-Mars .xpn.ss.d himself in tl... foll-.winK t.T.ns : '■ Am,rdm«
•• to tho Comifils of th.' ltisl..,ps Imth parti.'s aiv not on tho san..' fo..tins ; to v..!.' lor Mr.
•• Tr.'mblay would bu iu conscience a sin " (<■./•. -'.■ eomchne^). I filso swear that I di.l not
ropuat this convors.itio.. to .u.y <....• . Iso oth.T th.m Kpiph.u.o H.iv.ird. I w.i.; H..mu.....c.d
at Maio des Kochcrs t • ai,.. car hof..r.. this Co.irt, ,.nd I th.n n.-w why I was so sunim..n..l ;
beciUHo Autoiuo Hol n-ll-„ ,vl.o -iivo m.' tho suhp.o.ui, t..l.l ...<• why I wm sunimonod.
IJulluvillo is not a nailiil. .;.ll.'viUo, wh.'u I... han.l.d nio th.! H,d.i..i'n.i, askod nic if I would
siK.i to wlmt th. p.msh pnost ha.l t..l.l ni) on th.' ".iOlh of .)u..uary, .ind 1 .insworod "yo«.'
I cannot say on what day HoUoviUo h.i.i.lod mo tho suhpcena ; nt that time it wns ono month
420 after the oloction. Holl.'viUo r.Mul mo m air.davit in which it was stated that I had reported
that the Cure ha.l told mo that .t v;,s iu.C3Usciei.co a sin (ran ,lr ,;mHri„i,r) to voto for Mr.
Tr.'nil.lay. 1 pr..uiised to si-,, thi;, '-nil I did sign. ThiK took place at my house, and Mr.
Lizarc Simard, farmer. ..f Uaiu .Ics llochors ; my father. Thomas n..nchn.-d, far.ner ; A„.lr6
n.M,ehard, n,y brother, a^'-.l 2!) years ; .I.diuny Dosh.ons. farmer, Nazairo iJouchar.l, farnior,
and Louise Desbicns, „,v wif.'. wore present. I swear that on this last occasion I did npoak
.vbout the converHatiou 1 ha.l h...l with Mr. Cin.i-Mars on tho 20th of .T.muary last. Tho
vol,,.- t..ol< pbico o.> tho twouty-sccond .Ia..uary. Tho atV.davit w.is re.id aloud to mo. and
L undorslood it.
Re-Examined.
430 The subptiMui ..f which I Imvo just spoken was tho writing which Bellevillo -avo mo
to si-n. and not tho subpauia summoniui,' mo to appear as a witness.
Tho present deposition being road to tho witness, he per.sists in tho same, declares it
contaius the truth, and cannot si-ii.
Talon (Old sii-orn ln/ore mr in Court, nt Malhiile, -Jnl Juhj, 1870.
A. B. EOUTHIER,
J. 0. 8,
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lOVINCE OP QUEBEC, I SUPERIOR COURT.
DiHti-kt of Siifjuniuy. )
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
440 F.liitkm iif a Mi'iiibrr I'm- the lluiisc of Coiniiioiis for the FM'ftuml District of CharlrroiJ.:
Malbaie, the fourtji day of July, 187(5.
Present : — Hon. A. 13. Routiuer, J. C. S.
BRASSARD kt al.,
Petitioners ;
AND
Hon. U. L. LAXGEVIN,
Di'Jhtflant.
Eridetiee on the part of the Petitioners.
Jolmny Doshions, of the parish of St. Siiuioo, being duly sworn, dotli depose and
450 say ;— I know the parties in this case. I am not related, or of kin to, or in the employ of
any of the parties hi this case. I am not interested in the event of this suit. I was an
elector having a right to vote at the election in (juestion in this case, and I voti.'d in the said
parish at the said election. During the election Rev Mr. Cint]-Mars in his parsonage
[Prenhijtfre) spoke to me.
Question. — Please state ,ns clearly as possible what he then said.
AnsHir.—llc told me iu his parsonage (PreshyHre) that to vote for Mr. Tremblay
would be a mortal sin. Mr. Tremblay of whom ho spoke was the caniUdate opposed to
the Defendant at the said election. This was iu the afternoon of the 20th of .January. I
was at his place on that ooccasion because I had brought him Lack from my father-in-law's
460 house where I reside, and where he had gone to administer rites to sick people.
[Objected to, by the defendant as tending to adduce evidence against the cure giving
advice as Cur6. ]
[Objection reserved.]
Cross-Examined.
It waH about two o'clock in the afternoon, when the parish priest Cimj-Mars thus
spoke to mo On that occasion no other person but the cure and myself was present. 1
know Narcisso Bouchard witness examined iu this case, he is my brother-in-law. I live in
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tlio same liousu. I was present whcu Autoiiia Bcllovillo eiirac to Narcisso Boncli.ird's liouso,
to <^{'t me to siL;ii iui atlidavit. Narcisso Bouchard thou ropoatod before every one present ,
i70 the conversation he had liad witli t\w Cure Cimj-Mars. He then said tliat the cure liad
stated that it was in conscience a sin ((■(txdr coii-icii'iire) to vote for tlij candidate Tremblay.
I swear tlial Narcisso ISouchard never since, in iny presence referred to tliat conversation.
I came up at the sam ; timj m Narcissj Boucliard t) j,'iv..' my evideueo, and ho did not speak
to me of tins conversation. Tlie niglit bef(jre hist I slept at Baptisto Bouchard's, St. Fidtle.
Yesterday monung, I conversed with Narciss> Bouchird, [ did not say anytliiu;^' in reference to
his evidence, not a single word, lie said wo sliould be paid, and he said lie had come to give
evidence in relation to what Cur6 Cuiq-JIars had told him. I l;now Fraiii^'ois Bergeron, father,
and Fran(j'ois Bergeron, son. and William Savard, all farmers, of St. Simeon. I met those
three persons at llr. Cin(i-Mars' parsonage (juTahiith-e). Cure Cinij-JIars told me but once
480 in his parsonage, (iiir.slii)thr) as I said in my examination in chief, tliat it was a mortal sin
to vote for the candidate Treiulilay. I cannot say what Francjois Bergeron, father, and
William Savard, and Frani,'ois Itergeron, son, said, when Cure Cimj-^lars said to mo that
it was a mortal sin to vote. But these persons were not present when the cure spoke to mo
ill Iho words 1 above stated ; tliey canio later on. They entered later into the room in which I
was with the cure. They were then outside of the pavs(niage {jirnln/ih-c) when 1 was
conversing with tli(! cure. It was an hour after that conversation that tliey entered. On that
occasion I remained about four liours in the parsonage {proihiiien') with the cure. Both
Bergerons and William Savard remained about an liour at the Cure's house in the same
room as I was. During the time both Bergerons and William Savard were at the cure's,
490 there was not a single word uttered in reference to t]io*lection, and I was present all the
time. Last night I slept at iI.,ctor Dufour's, merchant of Malbaio. I am in the habit of
slei'ping there when I come to Malbaie. 1 cannot give the exact date on which the voting
took place at the last election. I have not too good a memory. I told yesterday at
.Malbaie to several persons what I had come for, that is t) say, to give evidence. I spoke of
it to Hector Uufour, and also to the people of my parish, St. Simeon. At Malbaie, I did no.
speak of it to any one else than Hector Diifour. This morning I did not speak to Hector
Dufour or to any one obso except to the ex-candidate Mr. P. A. Tremblay. He asked me if
I was able to give good eviilence, [reinhv lut ion t(':tiioi(i)ia<jn) ; this was at Henry Simard's.
I went this nn 'ruing to Henry Siniard's house, in order to meet some other parties from my
500 parisli who had been summoned as witnesses in tliis case, and who were there. The
geiua'al conversation at Henry Simard's this morning, was in roferiinco to the present suit.
I did not say anything and no body questioned mo except, as 1 have already stated, Mr. P,
A. Tremblay, and I cannot recollect what the otliers were saying. I did not pay attoutiou
to what the others were saying, and I did imf remark a single word of the conversation.
Qiicstidii. — As you did not remark (saini) a single word of the conversation that took
place this mornhig at Henry Simard's, how can you allirm t' ' ''' 'oneral conversation was
in reference to the present suit '?
Answer. — I did not speak about it, but the others did.
I did not understand what they said.
say what they said.
510
Question. — As you did not understand what the persons who wore taking part in the
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couversatiou that took place thin moruini,', at Hciu-y Smmrd's, saiil, liow cai; you say that
they were tulkhig about the present cause ?
Aiisirer. — I do not remember what tlioy said. This morning, at Henry Simard's, Mr.
P. A. 'I'rLinblay spoke to all those who wore there — some twelve persons — amongst whom
were witnesses .Mnumoned in this cause. I cannot say what he sail to them, lie spoke to
everybody in general, anil did not address himself particularly to mo.
y(/(.v/i''i;i.— If this morning, at Henry Simard's, you did not understand what Mr. P.
Tremblay said, and if ho did not address himself particularly to you, how can you state that
he ask(Hl you if you were able to give good evidence (remlre uii hun ti'miiiijuaiic) >
520 .I/i,si(V)-. -He spoke of this in speaking to everybody, and this is the reason I thus
understood him. Mr. Trembliv' did not address himself to me in particular. The only time
I lieard lam was \s\wa\ he saiil what 1 have already reported. I did not speak to any one of
the evidence 1 was going to give, neither ycsti.'rday, nor to-day, nor before. 1 gave an affi-
davit to Belleville at the same time as Narcisse lior.chard, to assert that Cure Ciiiq-Mars had
told mo it was a mortal sui to vote for Mr, Tremblay. I cannot say who asked me to
make that atlidavit. Now I say it is Antoiuc Belleville. 1 made that affidavit so that it
might bo given to Mr. Tremblay, but I cannot say wherefore.
(i'»e««M»;i.— Please state if Cure Cimi-Mars spoke to you about your affidavit ?
.insifi'r. — Yes.
530 Qiicstiihi — Is it not true that you gave to the cure a declaration in these terms, or in
words meaning the same thing : " I, Joliuny Desbiens, certify that I am ready to prove
" under oath that the cure did not speak to me of politics or of the election in his parsonage,
" (;))7',s7;////»v'), except hi the presence of Fraiii^ois Bergeron, father; William Savard and
" FraiK^ois Bergeron, son ?
Objected to on the ground that the witness is questioned relative to a writing which
has not been produced in the case. Question withdrawn.
QKeslioii. — Is it not true that you told Cure Cinq-Mars that you wore ready to
prove under oath that the cure had not spoken to you of polities or the election, except in his
parsonage (jirc.-ibiitcrc) in presence of Frani^ois Bergeron, father; William Savard and
540 ^''^''""«ois Bergeron, son ?
Ansiirr. — No.
(^hifstion. — Is it not true that subsequent to making your affidavits you gave a declara-
tion to the cur6 ?
AiiHirfi: — No.
(Jid'siiiin. — Is it not true that you gave to the euro a declaration in writmg ?
Aiiswfr. — No.
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Question. — Is it not true that you gavo to the curd- a declaration in tho following
words, or in terms meaniug the same thing : " I, Johiniy Dosbions, certify, and am ready to
" prove under oath, that the cure did not talk to mo ahout politics or election, except in liis
660 " parsonage (iirenhi/leir), hi presence of Fruiii^oia liorgerou, father. William 8avard, and
" Franijois Bergeron, son " ?
Objected to on the ground that it is intonded to prove the contents of a writing
which has not been produced.
The Defendant not being able to procure the said writing for the present, as it is in
tin.' hands of the Archbishop of Quebec, prays to adjourn the iiiijUfle on this question.
Objection mahitained.
I cannot say on what day of the week was the 20th of January. I can remember that
date on account of the election. It is the only reason why I remember that date, but I
cannot remember the date of the election. 1 swear that I remember that date of my own
570 accord.
Ke-Examined.
I did not come lure in the same vehicle as Narcisse Bouchard. The conversation in
which Mr. Cinq-Mars told me that it was a mortal sin to vote for Mr. Treiublay, took place
two or three days previous to the voting. I can perfectly recollect that the words that I
have reported are those made use of by Mr. Cinq-Mars.
The following writing being read to the witness : — " I, Johnny Desbiens, fairer, of
" St. Simeon, solemnly declare that during the course of the election which took place
" lately in the County of Charlevoix, at which Mr. Tremblay and Mr. Langevin were the
" candidates, Mr. Cinq-Mars, cure of St. Simeon, told me that it was a mortal sin to vote
580 "' foi' Mr. Tremblay ; and I make this solemn declaration believing it conscientiously to be
" true, and in accordance with the Act passed in the thirty-seveutli year of Her Majesty's
" reign, intituled, ' An Act for the suppression of Voluntary and Extra-judicial oaths.'
(Signed,)
JOHNNY DESBIENS.
Taken and attested he/ore me this 15tli day of February, 1870.
[Signed,)
ANTOINE B. BELLEVILLE,
Mayob.
x'he witness declares that exhibit marked C, aiihe ewinete of Petitioners, is the affidavit
590 of which he spoke in his cross-examination. I never gave to ]\[r. Cinq-Mars, nor signed any
declaration contradicting the said affidavit. He talked to me about it at the parsonage
(Presbytire) of St. Fiddle. He asked ino if it was true that I had made an affidavit
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^-'atinf? that ho Imd said it wtis a mortal hIii to voto for Mr. Trciulilay. I answorod him, yes.
-■.: Haid it waH not triio. IIo did not ask luo to nv^n auytliiug or to make any declaration.
Ke-CU0HH-EXAMINUI>.
ft wah Antoini' ni'llovi]](! who xvroti' the dccliiration, Kxhibii C. Bi'llivillo did iii>t
write tlio whole of the afVidavit before mo, but lie wrote a [lart of it.
The present deposition havin;:; been read to the witness, he persists in tlie same and
dcclarcii it coutuiuH the truth and cannot si^'u ,
600 I'likcn (tail ■iironi hi'forr iiiein n/irn i-iinri , flii.i ■■irllt 'la// (i/'.liih/, 1870.
A. B. ROUTUIER,
[ANNEXKD to DKI'OSITION OF JOHNNY BESBIENSj
[, Johnny Destious, farmer, of St. Himoon, Holemnly declare that during,' th- course
of the election which took place lately in the County of CJharlevoix, at which Mr. Tromblay
and Mr. Lanj,'evin were the candidates, Mr. Cinq-Mars. Cure of St. Simeon, told mo that
it was a mortal sin to vote for Mr. Tremblay. I make this solemn declaration, believiuj,' it
conscientiously to be true, and in accordance witli the Act passed in the thirty-seventh year
of Her Majesty's reign, intituled " An Act for the suppression of Voluntary and Extra-
610 judicial oaths.
JOHNNY DESBIEN8.
TaL-en (inil altrnled hefore. mi ilii-s Ji/tfcntli diuj of Fdiruanj, 1870. «
ANTOINE B. BELLEVILLE
Mayor.
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PROVlNCKOFyi:Em.X;,| SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTUOVKRTKD ELKCTIONS ACT, ISTI.
Klfftiui' it 'I iiKtnliti liji Uie. Iliiusi iif <.'iii iiiioiiK for ihi' rlrrlnml Di^hiil of C/ntr/i'roi.f.
Mai.ii.mk, ill] (lav olMiilv IH70.
620
I'UKHKNT :— Hon. A. U. IJoUTHIER, J. S. ('.
No. M
UUASSAUD
VB.
I'l'liiiiinirn ,
Hon. II. L. I.ANGKVIN,
rfmdant,
KriilinO' on llii: iiiirl (>/ ihi l'iiU\(iiiir»,
Xuvioi- Lfimncho, hi^imI I'orty-lour ycir-, of I):ul' St. IVnil. fiinncr, beiii,!; duly
.sworn, cloth doposo aiul say I liiiow the pai'tios in thin oas.-. I uiu not rdatod, alhod, or
of kin to, or ill th<' mnploy o| any ot tlir pmlii.s in tliis eaii.'se. I agi not intorestivl in the
630 event of this suit. I was iiii olcotor at the last election. I diil not vote at the said I'lection.
I liad doelarod luysflf at the bi'^'iniiin;; of the tiluction iu favour of Mr. Trcmblay. It is my
fiitlicr, Jean Laroit lio, who jiri'Vi .i<'d me from votiii;,' for .Mr. Tri>ml)liiy. lie came to my
house and said, " My hoy, i mmi jwiili 1 aiu old, and if you wa'.il t) do like nu^ vote for Mr.
Lan^'ovin. I was at lirst in favor of Mr. 'I'remlilay, i>ut Imvc turned round tor .Mr. Langevin."
'. -Do you know whaltims turned your father round?
(Jhjected to for thosamo roa..ion raantioned in the deposition of Ainl Mall:ii.s. Ohjoc-
tion reserved ti> llie merits.
Aimnr — It is the last sermon of Cure .Sirios, delivered five days previous ti the voting
1 heard tin! said sermon. What impressed mc most in that sermon was that ho said res-
640 poctiiii; the Liberals, ho said, that if they were in need of the cur(5 it would bo u- 'li-.-; fiu t'l -nito
go. He --aid it \\.is ti matter ofconscienc'e('»» cm d' comckuce), and it was not right to vote for
tho Liberals. M. TroiiiMiy was the Liberal candidate at the said election. I do not re-
luembei if he said ftuyth. ; else ill ii 1. rriico to tho Liberal party. There wore u great num-
ber li .)ple in the church when ihe said sermon was preached. 1 iim unable to say if the ser-
m..)i. jiiipressed thosi' who heard it, but some told mc it had doiu; so. 1 tionot know of an elector
wliom the sermon turn 1 round or prevented from voting. My fath.r, of whom I have before
spoken, voted at the said election. On that occasion tho cur^preached about a (juarter of an
liiiur, pcrimp-* ludrt", in rcfiTtnci' to tho doctioii. He xuiil u (fw wonlH, its'wi'll uh I eiui ri
iriciiilii'i', to tli<' <'tVi('t tliiit riiir votiiij,' for our ciiiKliilatc or tlic oilier tiiit,'ht iillVct nlipioo. '
Ii50 tlnl not well iioti' thin imrl, 1 inu not iiislnu'ti'il, l^'roiii wliiit I coulil iiiulrrstiuul lif muilu um
uiulirHtiiiicl tlmt we oii','lit to vote for till; ' liiiit. lie told iiH tliat it wn voti.tl for Mr.
Troialiliiy religion would 111' (Usiniyi-'il. Tin! ; whiil I iimliTstood. I ij,) '.,t romciutior it
hf spold' on tlmt oci'iiHioii of projilict ' >••.•' 'iristx.
(!llOMH-ilxA.MINKII.
I ciiiniot rciulor write. It was my fiitlicr «lio told iiii> ho jntd i'lianj,'iMl widcH on iic-
count of the tiuv's rtcrnion, Tlu^ pricHl iliil not nuiition Mr. 'rri'mliluy, hut we pcrlVctly iin-
dcrMtood that it was iihoiit him tlmt he W11-. Hpciiliint,'. Tlio priest h|ioI<(' uhoiit liihcriiliwui.
lit' Kiiid tlmt l.ihcraiisni was condcniind, luid tlmt it was Mr. Tremblay's party tliat niifjl't
di'stroy rolij,'ioii.
600 (A/<',1^■o)^- Say in what ternis the prir.^t aid Mr. 'rnndduy's party would dt'stroy
ri'li^ion.
Aii.iiiir.-l iini iinahii! to n'liort tho o.vact uxprcssion. I am iinahlc to report any ex-
proBHiuu made use of by tho euro in his soriuon. I am not liarnod onou^'h for tlmt.
ijiii-niiiiti. ]r~ it not true tlmt in his sirninn tho iirio>t made use of tho following Ian-
j^iuige: " When you are in nocd of tho euro ui tho ordinary eirouuistaacos of life, you know
whoro to lind hini.Jiut durin;,' oloction times you take no licod of him '?"
Aimivtr. — Yes.
HkExaminkii
All that I ooiild mako out of tho sermon was that ho coiulomuod all those who holongod
070 t" t''^' Ijiberal party.
The present deposition havinj,' boon read to the witness, ho persists in tht; same, dc-
ulares that it contains the truth andeainiot sij^'n.
Tiiki-ii iiiiil sii-iini lifforc nw in a/ii n Court tit Mali , tlil/i till <;/'./»/(/, 1H76.
.\. a KOUTUIKU,
- J. B. 0.
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I'VOVINCE OF QUEBEC,!
IH^Irtii of Stijiieuui/. I
SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTllOVRTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1871,
EliTlinn iif i( iiiriiilie.r lor tin' llnusr af ('iiiiiititiKx fnf llic Eli'cl'irul Disln'cl (if Cliurliviii.r,
680 Ma;j;vie, 4tli day of July, 1870.
Phksent:— Hon. A. B. Routhikk, J. S. C.
No, M.
BRASSAltD KT AL.,
Petitioners ;
Hon. 11. L. LANdEVIN,
Di'frwlant .
Eriilciice oil the jntrl of tlic Pililionern.
Einilien Bouch.iiil, iigt'd 53 yeiivs, of the piirish of St. FiJulc, being duly sworu
doposcth iiiul siiitli : — I know tli'.' piirtios in tlio cusi'. I uni not I'eliitcd, oi- of kin to, or in
090 tlic iimploy of nny of the paitii'M in tliis cause. I iini not intfi'i-.ited in tlie event of tlii.s suit.
' 1 liiul ii riglit to vote at St. Fiilele iit the last election. There is no oth-r person ol
the uamo of Eiuilien Bouchard than myself in the parisli of St. Fidole. I cUd not voto at
the last election. It was of uiy own accord that I did not vote, hut 1 Imd r( asons (loiijonrx
ties rai.Hoits). 1 was very sick in hed, and I had stated tliat I would not take any part in
the election. Mr. Treuiblay, Cure of .St. l''idele, <lid not ])i'rsonully .spe.-ik to me al)out
elections, but I heard liim speak of it in tlie pulpit. It was before the vothig, one of tJie
last Sundays, lint 1 did not remark which. I understood as follows, tliat one who voted for
the Iiiberal party was guilty of a previous sin, and one tliat would dir in that state would not
bo entitled to the services of a jiriest. It is all I can reiueml)i;r. Thesi' words impressed
700 "le a good deal. 1 have no personal knowledge that tlu'sc words made any impression on
others, but I have heard it said. As far as 1 am concerned, I am of o[iinion that a man
who wishe:; to follow his priest, after hearing these ft'ords, could nut vote. As to me it would
have priivented me from voting, for 1 would have had to renounce .ay ivligion to vote. Mr.
Treuiblay was the candidate of the J liberal party condenmed by the Cure; at least
that is what 1 uiuhirstood. I know Denis (laiithier, lue'rchaat, Irom St. Fidclo. He caine
to visit lue as a frii'ud, and spoke to me about the elections as follows : •' I have come to
^ee you, knowing in what position you are. I have not come to iutluence you to turn.'
He then invited me to go to a meeting tlnit was to taki; |)lace that evenin;,' in ri'lalion to the
election.
— m
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710
Ohjoutcd to lor tli
,„• ♦• , '" """" '■'""""" '"""^'oncd in the eWdonce of A, Maltais.
Oiijoctions rpsorvcd to tlic merits.
Cboss-Examinkd.
r luyself lu.ard the Cure say tliat a person could not vot. for Mr. Tremblay witl.out
connn>ttn,g a grev.ous sin. I cannot reuKMnber the words ho i-ronounced. -Ho did not
pronounce the name oi Mr. Tromhh.y. hut it was easy to understand, as there were only
two cand.dates. The Curd spoke aganust the Ld.eral party to which Mr. Tremblay beloug.^^
and that is the reason 1 understood that he was speaking of Ifr. Tremblay.
I am unable to remember a single word of the sermon on tliat Sunday, but the
sermon was entuvly about tlie elections.
720 Qu..>i,n, Vo you swear that the Cure said that a person who would vote for the
Liberal party and should di. in that state, would not be entitled to the services of a priest '?
.(^.s-r-r.-Yes. For my part ] so un.lerstood. 1 swear that the Cur6 said what I
1 mve rebjted; at least it was what I understood. The priest said, what I have already
wo l'',l;t ' l'"'*';"; :r°"" "'" '"■''" ^''•"^'^^ l""-^y '-'1 --'" '!-■ i" that state,
wouldnotbeen itledto the services of the pnest. I was m my pew in the back of the
CI uch, where the pnest can bo well heard. I cannot remember the persons who were then
with mo and cannot name any person who was at Church on that day except the Ciu-^.
the beadle and myself. The Cure may have read a mandate on that Sundav, but I di,l »«;
remark i . I know that one was read on the first Sunday of the election: The followm.
730 Sunday ho again spoke of it, and he said that he thought some liad not uadorstood.
Ho modi hod that, (,/ . arran,r r.U) and I did not think it as strong as the tirst time.
Ihu hr.t time, I imderstood that a person .-ho would vote for the Liberal party would
commit a grevHous sin. 1 understood for my part, a mortal .sin. The following Sundav the
Cure reviowod this ,//,., ,,,„.,„ /„.,/,,,,,, „,^ ,,,.,,,,i^„i ^,^,.,.^^,,^ .^ j^_^ ^^_^,^^^__ _^^ ^^^^^^
already stated. A week elapsed between the Sunday on which he stated that it was a
gnevious sin to vote for the Liberal party, and the Sunday on which he modified his sermon iou
</ a..r> , .. .v7„). as 1 liave alrea.ly said. The first Sunday, when the ,u-iost spoke as 1 have
saul, ho read a mandate, I suppose, but I .lid not remark U. I do not remember to wJiat
lie mandate referred, but what impressed me were the words of the Cur6. No other words
740 besides those already nentioned struck me or attracted mv attention. Tins mornin.^ I
s.opped for a moment at Henry Simards, on my way irom Church, where 1 had lieard low
mass. 1 also stopped for a little while at Hector Diifom^'s.
The present deposition having been read to the witness, ho persists in the same
declares it contains the truth, and cannot sign. '
Tahen ■„nl ,w„r,i he/orv mc hi „,„■„ Co„rl, at Mallme. thix ith Jul,/, 1870.
A. n. llOUTHIEli,
J. s. c.
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i'llOVlXCL: OF QLKBEC,
nialiict of Saijumay.
SUPERIOR COURT.
750
DOMINION CONTROVKRTEI) ELEOTIONS VCT, 1874.
FAirtinii ';/ i( mniilur fur lln' llnnsf i>l' ('•niiiiioiix I'nr the h'.hrtnral histrici uf C'ltarh'roix.
Mai.haie, Itli (lav of Julv, 1876.
I'rksent: — Hon. A. B. Rdutuiku, J. S. C.
No. M.
BRASSARD at ai,.,
lIo.N. 11. L. LANGEVIN,
Di'/i'iiilant.
760 h'riih'iii'e oil the imrl uf lht> I'l'lilioin'rf.
Alnil Miihiiis ol' tho piiri.sh of St. Fiilulo, fiinucr, iigcd about forty vcarH, being duly
sworn, (loth depose and stiy:— I know tho parties in this cause. 1 am not robitod or of kin
to, or in tlie euiphjy of an;/ of thorn. I au) not iatcroi'd in tlh' rvi'iit of tliis suit. I was
an elector, and had a riyht to vote. 1 had no conversation wilJ! ]\ir. Treinblay. Cure of St.
Fidele, in reference to the election in ijuestion. What I heard was what lie said m a .jenuoii
dohveix'd the last ^iuuday, or tbi; Sunday before that, previous to tho cleetion.
Qiii'.iiioii. — Please state as distuictly as possible what he then said ni reference to this
('lecti(ui.
LObJected to by the Defendant :— 1st, because the Petitioners h 've no rij,'ht to bring
yijA evidence before this tribunal of any fact or act done by tho Rev. Mr. Tr(.niblay ni his capa-
city of priest or Cure of the parish of St. Fideh,', in the pulpit of the church of St. Fidele,
aud in the exorcise of iLc functions of his mniistry; 2nd, b(>cause this tribuiud is incom-
petent to pass a judgment on the conduct of an ecclesiastic in the exercise of the functions
of his ministry, inasmuch as an ecclesiastic is only responsible for his conduct to his
uoclcsiastical superior and to the ecclesiastical tribunals ; 8rd, because no ecclesiastic can bo
summoned before a civil tribunal, either as a plaintifif or as defendant or as a witness,
without his having previously obtained leave from his ecclesiastical superior, and that such
leave has not been produced in this cas(;; Uh, because, in fact, the Rev. Mr. TnMnblay has
already been sunniioned before his ecclesiastical .--uperior to ausw( r the same charges made
7g(j iu this ease and for the wi>rds he spoke in the pulpi;, and of which it is wished to give
evidence in this cause. Objei^itioii reserve(l,l (Hi'sirrr^ au iiH'rltP.)
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.)».„,.,.,.— I lionrd Ml'. Ti-omWay stato in the pulpit at St. Fitlelc tlmt, in .;o fur as ho
knew, liiKiwiii;,' the (iDviTiiiiifiit as he tliil, Ik; would boliovc that ho was coiumitthif,' a sin if
h.' vdtcil for tho (lovormiiciit wliich Mr. Tn'inl)liiy supported. There were a goodiium-
her of people in chureli. The whole population of St. Kidele is Catholic.
V"''f'i"».— Pleaso slate if tliese words in any way inipros.sod those to whom they wore
addressed ; if so, state wliy you think they impressed them.
.Iiisdrr. -I cannot say if it is du(\ to liavinj; misunderstood, but the people on coming
out of church and on their way liomo were saying that the Cure had said that the members
790 of the Uuiiiio imrty were all dannied. By /,'..(,,/,■ p,irty they meant Mr. Tremblay's party.
Some electors told me that they had not voted because the Cure had spoken in those terms,
but I cannot say if they properly understood. Amongst those who told me that they had
been thus prevented from voting I can name Paul Livpointo.
CuosB- Examined.
I caimot read or write. I own two pews in the Church of St. Fidfele. On tho
said Sunday I was in my pew in tlu bjdy of tli; church. I cannot name those who
were with me or those who were near my pew. I talked about the election to some in favor
of Mr. Tremblay. When I have made up my mind I do not change, and the words of the
Cure which 1 have repoited did not altir my opinion. In the parisli of St. Fidfele there are
800 electors that could hanlly bo induced to turn, but there are some that are easy to influence
(tflllliVs).
I know that some were impressed. I cannot say if they were in church. Tho Curb's
sermon was spread fast enough to allow those who wiire not in church to know of it. The
sermon was made appear worse than it had been delivered. The sermon was made worse,
because the Cure on the foUowhig Sunday was obliged to declare that he had never said that
those who would vote for Mr. Tremblay would commit a mortal sin, but what he did say was
that, as to him, if he voted he would believe he was committing a sin.
(Jiirsiidii. -Will you name one elector of St. Fidfelo whose vote was iuHuenced by tho
Cure's words which I have mentioned ?
^jQ Aiixim-.—l ciiniiut under oath ; the parties did not tell me personally. In the pulpit
the Cure did not pronounce Jtr. Tremblays name, but I understood he meant him. Tho
puople on returning home, as 1 have already said in my examinatiou-in-chief, talked about
the Cures sermon, but made it worse than it was. I liave coutidenco in our Cure. Every-
tlang I have reported, except the words of tho sermon which I gave in my evidence-in-chicf,
has been from hearsay. It assuredly was reported, because the Cure was obliged to explain
((/(' St' ifiiiYiiilrc), as I have before stated.
Rk-Exa.mined.
There were parties who bad tlie reputation of being canvassers for the Defendant in
St. Fidele. Mr. Denis Gauthier was one of them. I eaiinot say if thi' canvassers made use
820 °^ *■'"-' ^'"i"e'>* sormou. All I can say is that they used every means. Tho sermon was tlie
subject of a great deal of iliscussiou during the following week.
^" I ' .m.'-.!w,,— >8Bie8t. ■ .11,1 . ^1,
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Ub-Crohh- Examined.
I cauuot porsoually state what mcuuH wcro inado use of. 1 do not know of anythiiiK
perHoiially.
Tlio prusont ilupoHition having been road to the wituPHH, hf pursints in the same,
declares it contains the truth, and cauuot sign.
Takiii (111(1 mrani hcfuir me in "lien Court lliis I'diirth ddi/ of Jiihj. 187&.
A. IJ. ROUTIIIER,
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830 PROVINCE OF QUEllKC. t
UMrictofSauurniii/. I
SU.^ERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELEOTIONS ACT, 1871.
i:i,vlii>ii ill a M.niir/or ill, Ihmxr »/ < 'omnii'iiif /'»■ il„' EUihirnl hiilii' ■' ChirUmi'.
Malbaik, Itli ik.v of July, 1870.
No. 11.
840
I'besknt :— lii)N. A. U. Uoutjiiek. •
I3I1AHSA11D KT Ai,„
I'Hiliitners .
AND
Hon. If. I-. LANOEVIN,
Ihl'enihinl.
Kiiilrnce "ii ihe jku-I of lh< PilillmmK.
Chni-k-s Bouclmra, . T tlio I'arisli of 8t. Shut-on. a:- A 27 years, fani.'r, beins duly
swoni, cloth .U1.0SC una sav :^ -1 know tlu' i-artios in this fa>. I am nut rclal.a or of kin to,
or in the employ of any of tlu-.n. 1 an. not int.Tfstoa in the . , .nt of this suit. I know Donis
Gauthier, mercliaiil, of St. FideU'. He was very much cnRHged Unrhig tl"' hvst election m
favor of the Defin.hu.t. Ife canvussnl for him and talked to m thou tUcoleetion. Two days
before poUniK day h.. asked whom 1 was ^oin- to vote for. I answered, if I should vote
1 would vote for Mr. Treudday. lie unswered, ■" You cannot vote for Mr. Trorahlay." ftnd
S50 added, " If you vote for Mr. Trcnhlay, you will remeud.er me on the twenty-fourth." I had
business transactions with him tlan. The.se transactions consisted in n,..' ov in^ him Hoiue-
thin-, and I was continuing to transact there. Uy liis tone, when he sai 1 to mo that I
shoidil remomh..r him on the twenty-fourth, I un-lerstood that he uirant lie would have
nothm- more t.) do with me (<iu'd me clairail), and that he would make me pay what I owed
lum. 1 was then in his employ, and I understood that he vvoud turn me out of ih if • uiploy-
ment. 1 had a right to vote in the Parish of St. Simeon f ,r the said election i di.l not
vote. The reason I did not vote was on account of svlu.t Mr. Tcuis Gauthier ..aid to me, aud
what I have before stated.
Cro88-E.\amined.
860 Since the end of April 1 am not in the employ of Mr. Gauthier. I did not tell Denis
Gauthier that I had not voted, but he knew it. Wliut prevented me from voting were the
words spokou to me by Denis Gauthier. 1 have had no row or disagreement with (iauthier
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since the election. Hautlner told me, - You will i^.uiombi.T mo on the 2tth of Jamnii-y >f you
vote fur Mr. Tromblay." Tliis wiis at his establislimont at I'.lack UW^i: I \vas alone with
liim in the aining room. In the uc'xt room tiieve were some iieojile, stran^'evs, wlio had come
to converse. It was the day before polUn- day, about noon, or a little after. There were
four or five strangers hi the next room, who had come with Sh: (lauthier. between tliat
roor.i and the one we were in, there was a partition, with an openin- for a door. Mr.
Oaulhier had closed the door. If there were here present some of the
870 stran-ers of whom I have spoken, I would recoynize them, but 1 do not
see any. I was only there for a moment, and did not remark who were there. Mr.
Gauthier had made me come in, and as soon as he had spoken 1 left. I was then gettmg a
liammer to shoe mv horse. I found myself face to face with him, and he bid mo go in. If
I imd known he was there I should not have gone It was Elio Mailloux, Mr. (lautlncr's
foreman, who gave me the Inunmer. I answered Mr. (Jauthier, " If I vote for Mr. Trend^lay
• you will not know it." Ue said " I will surely know it"-(Je lo saurai bien). Gauthier did
not tell me that he would turn me out- 1 simply understood so, and that is the reason I was
fri.'htened. I positivelv swear that it .vas what Gauthier said to me that prevented mo from
votin-. I then owed Gauthier about fifteen pounds. This morning I went to Henry Himard's,
880 of Mribaie, in order to get a glass of water. I did not meet anybody. I cannot say how
Ion- I remamed there. I had no timepiece. I remained about a quarter or halt an hour.
^Ye^vero four or five who went in together. I do not know them. I come to Malbaie once
or twice a year. I go to Henry Bimard's when it suits. Nobody spoke to me of my evidence,
nor have I spoKen of it to any one. I went hi to Henry Simard's because it suited me.
Whore I slept I was asked what I had to say, and I refused to answer. I was also ques-
tioned at Alex. Dufours on what I had to say. I said, " You will know at Court." I swear
no person spoke to me to refresh my memory as to dates or otherwise. This is the 4th ot
June. Voting took place in the month of January last.
The present depositimi being read to the witness, he persists in the same, declares it
890 contains the truth, and cannot sign.
Mm an,l morn Morr ,nc in upn, C rt a, Mallmr, tin. Uh da.j ..f Juhi, 1H7G.
A. 13. KOUTHIER,
J. s. c.
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IMJOVINCE OF gUEP.Er!, I SUPERIOR COURT.
Didrii-l ff SiiijKiniiij I
DOMINION CONTROVP]RTED ELKCTI0N8 ACT. 1871.
Elirtiiiii nf II M.'iiilin- Jni- the llnii.v 'if Ciiiniiiiiiisl'iir the Elivl.ind Distru-t ui' Cliarlnnix.
iMai,i!aik, Fourth iliiy of July. 1876.
900 No. II.
PbKSKNT : Ho.N. A. B. llOUTIlIKE, J. S. C.
UKASSAKl) KT ,\i..
I'rtil.,
VS.
Ho.N. 11. L. LAXGEVIN,C.B.,
Kriiloice or tin' jnirt nf the J'clitiiiiifrs.
.Jolan y Trciublay. of llie piinsli of St. Fidclt!, 20 years of use, miTclmut, being iluly
sworn dotli depose and say :— I know the pai'ties in tliis cause, 1 am not related to or
of kin to, or in the employ of the parties in this cause ; I am not interested in the event of
tliis suit.
9U) Objected to by the Defendant, lis trying to prove acts done by the cure m his
capacity of pastor and priest. Objection reserved uu merite.
1 heard the itev. Mr. Trcmblay, cure of St. Fidole, speak about the election at the
parsonage {iire.thnteir) and at church. He spoke to me about elections at the parsonage
(/iresh/thr) eight or ton days previous to the voting. I asked him if it was a sin, as I had
heard' it said, to vote for ilr. Tremblay. He told mo: For persons who are ignorant and
who are not sufficiently iustructoa to umlerstand the mandate, it was not a sm. but for him
knowing as he did, he should sin by vothig for a person who supported the MacKenzie
administration. It was Mr. Tremblay who was the candidate supporting the ilacKeuzie
' adraini;.tration. I stated something further ou this matter but I cairnot recollect it.
920 (Objected to for the same reasons given iu the deposition of Abel Maltais. Objection
reserved.
In church, he conauenccd by reading the mandate, he explained what is meant by
Liberalism. There arc some who tell you that there are two kinds of Liberalism, Catholic
Liberalism and political Liberalism. He said this was au error, that Catholic Lib(U'alism and
f I lllllfp
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liolitical LilimiliMU wtru one iiucl tlio siunu tliinij;. Uu diil not iiniuu iiiiy fiunliiliitc. I du
not roeollcct if lie iiaul in what wiiy tlio clcctoM should vote; ho said: "you havo hciinl the
"niandato road to you, you arc snlliclontly instructi'd, you kn.nv now wliat you have to do,
you SCO that tlio Bishops coudmnn Lihoralisiu." lie spoiio of tho candidates; ho said thcro woro
two, a LihL'ral and a Consorvativo ; lio addod you are now sullieiontly instructed, you should
030 bo vory enroful of your voto, and you should vote for tho good caudidato. '['lio Lihoral
.•aiididato for tlio saiil oloetion was Mr. Trouil.iay. JIo said that hy votiii',' wroiif,', it would
ho liUo in tho old oouutrii's. I oauuot stato if iio said this in tho pulpit on that oocasioi, or
in his parsona;,'o (iireshiiirir). !nit know ho told him that in tho old oountrios thoy (on)
wantod to dostroy roligion. Tho ouro spoko muoli nioro to luo on tho subject in his
parsona^'o (iirrsliifl hr) than ho did in tlu' pulpit.
(.t»,'.sV/M//.— Yoi' id just now that at tho parsonaj,'o (/-/v,s/;;//nv') tho ouiv told you that
ho did not think that i.e could voto for Mi'. Tremblay without ooniuiittiiy a sin ; did ho also
make iiriti of til. ^aino words iu the pulpit or words to that otfoct ■.'
Objected to liy the DeiWidiint, 1st because it prosuinos a C.ct which hns not boon
040 proved. Objection luaintained becauso tho (piostion is leading.
(_,,„,/,-„„._()i, that occasion did Mr. Tremblay say anything roforring to ('/-(/is /e
>■,,(,>■) what lie had privately t(jld you at tho parsonage {iireshi/lhr).
.l/,s/nr.--l did not personally hear the parish priest lopoat such things. 1 was
absent the Sunday preceding the voting.
Cl!OSS-ExAMlXi:l>.
Tho sermon of which i havo spoken was the subject of a groat deal of talk in the
parish. The Sunday I hoard the cure, it was three weeks bofore the voting. 1 was
present on the Sunday which preceded the voting. The cure thou repeated tho same things
I had heard on tlio tliird Sunday. When I was in church, tho cure did not c .plain of
050 persons repeating ihiugs which ho had not said; I heard that tho cure had cmuplainod of
people miking him say what ho had not said and that they had misuudorst:)od. 1 worked
in favor ot Mr. Tromblay's (•loctiou. I took an active part in the contest. What tho cure
told nu^ in liis parsonage (i,mh:/tm-) and what I hoard him say in church did not intluonce
my conviction or intimidate mc. It was one of the iirst Suudays in election times that tho
cure read the mandate, as [ have above stated. I do not boliovo that he spoke of election
in the pulpit before ho road the mandate (jii a Sunday.
The present d(.'positioii being read to the witness, ho presists in tho same, declares it
contains the truth and has signed.
JOHNNY TREMBLAY.
OGO 'I'al.rii anil sw.,ni h,;h,ir mc in iijirit Cmirl al Muihai,', lids 4lli liiij -;/' .hilij 1876.
A. a. ItOUTHIER,
■^^p
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[■ifoviNCK OF Qri'.nKc, SUPERIOR COURT.
I)i:<li-irl (if Sihjuiniiii. I
DOMINION (CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS aCT, IS74.
Klalio,, ,;i ,1 Mvmlxr Jor ihf Huns,: of Cnnimnns h>f llii' l\l,rloi;(l Dislrirt of <'l,a,lrn,i.i:
Maluaik, otli (lay of July, 1870.
I'rksknt : — Hon. A. 15. Hoituieu, 1. S. 0.
No. 14.
1)70
r.RASSAltl) KT AL.,
I'etltlonern.
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Defendant.
Eri(li-tii-i till till' imrl nf ihr rclili(iii>ri.
(iooi-0 Giuitliior Laroucho, of th.' [.iiiish of Biue St. Paul, agotl 85 yeavH, beiug duly
sworn, aotli"lei)oso auil say: 1 kuow the p.u'ties in this cause I am not relato.l or of kin
to, or in the employ of, any of thcni. I am not iuterostfa m the event of this suit.
ObjectLHl to by tho Defeiulant for the ,,anio reasons mentionca in the iloposition of
980 Abel Maltais. (Jbjection rescrvea.
1 was an oloetor at liaie St. Paul for tlio last election, and 1 voted. I am a son of
,Joan Laroucho. I was present at a sermon delivevod at Baio St. Paul by Mr. Sirois, curd of
the said parish, on the Sunday which preceded the votin-. I an. unable to repeat ono word
of the sermon. I was at mass, but did not meddle with the election. I suppose the cur6
spoke of the election in that sermon, but 1 do not remember. I cannot personally remember
a-ainst whom he spok i dimply heard it said that ho had spoken a-ainst Mr. Tremblay.
Bdbre the sermon 1 was in favor of Mr. Tremblay. After the sermon I dul not pledge
myself in favor of any candidate. When I give my word it is settled. I had one conversa-
tion in reference to the election with Cur6 Sirois Ho spoke of the two candulates. He
QQQ asked who I was goin- to vote for. This was a few days previous to the votin-, I cannot
say how many.
Objected to by the Uefendant, as tending to prove advice and counsel given by the
uuv6_the pastor and priest.
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I
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I told liiia flmt my fiitlur wn^ I'livoialilf to Mr. Tniiil.liiy, iiiul tliiit I could not bu
otliinvisc. U(' tlh'ii i.i'.id ; Kvciii if your fatliiT im for Mr. Troiublay, you van voto for Mr.
Liui{jcviu ; iiol)0(ly will know it. Thin in nil ho <mA to mo. ami I iiuiu.aiatoly loft. Ho did
not .iiicik of ^rr. TrHtil.lay. or of the Liboral l.arty, Wlimi h.^ told uiu to voto for tho
Dofcudaut, 1 answ.rod that I could not vot.' otlurwiHO than uiy fatlior did. My father waH
at first favorable to Mr. Trouiblay, but aftorwurdn aoclarod hitUHolf in favor of Mr. Laiib'ovin.
1000 1 >''i""i"t »iy what u.ducfd hill, to clian-,., but lir told u.o Ur was old and would soon <lic. and
could not vote aLrniii-'t H"' oiiiuion of his cure.
Cll"MH-!'',X.\MlNKU.
1 voted in accordance with my couvictiouH. I did not chauKO oiiiniou in consoiiuenco
of tho Hcnuon.
The ].rcscnt deposition having boon road to the witness, he persists in it, declares it
contains the truth, and hath siKued,
GKORGE GAUTIIICU.
rah;i uii'l su-un, i-i/i./v „i,' In u,„„ Co,,,! ,il M<ilhm,\ this r,ll, ,lai/ nf Jidy, 1870.
\. n. IIOUTIIIEE,
1010
.1. s. c.
.Eb
I
31
HioviNCE OF guEUEc, SUPERIOR COURT.
DUrkl qf SauHriMy.
DOMINION CONTllOVEllTED bILECTIONS ACT, 1874.
HIeclwn „/ a Member for llu- llmw nf Cvtiniium/or tk,' l-JUvtoral DUtricI of Charhvoic.
Malbair, tliis Clh day of July, 1876.
I'kkhknt :— Tub Hon. A. U. Routiukb, J. B. 0.
No. 14.
BRASSARD et al.,
Petitionera;
AND
1020
Thb Hon, H. L. LANOEVIN,
Defendant.
Pi'litioners' Kvidcnce.
Fran^oiH Turgeon, 45 year .U, farmer, of tlio Parinh of Bale St. Paul, being duly
sworn upon the Holy EvangoliHtn, dothdopoHe and say :-I know the parties in this cause,
I am neither a relative, nor of kin, nor a servant, nor in the employ of any of them. I
am not interested in the event of this suit. During the last Charlevoix election I heard a
sermon on the election, delivered by M. Sirois, cure of Bale St. Paul. I have not noticed the
date, but it was in January, and on a date not distant from the voting.
(^HftsdoH,— Please toll what you noticed the most in that sermon.
1030 Objected to by the Defendant for the same reason as to the deposition of witness,
Ai)el Maltais.
2nd. Because it has not been proven that the witness has been threatened with spiri-
tual or temporal penalties by the cur6 Sirois.
8rd. Because the Petitioners have not mentioned in their bUl of particulars any general
system of intimidation. *#
Objection over-ruled as to the two last grounds, and reserved to the merits as to the
two first.
■bmi-er -I assure you that I have not much to say, for I do not remember much.
The cur6 told us that whoever should vote for the Liberal party would be considered as a bad
1040 Catholic Tl « Liberal candidate at the k«t federal election w... Mr. Tremblay. I do not
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rumciubcT Unit tlie cui-e spoke of ^iii or oonsciouce coiiuoniiug the vote to 1)0 given by the clou
tors. I wiis i\ii elector at tlie said election iuhI voted as -iicli. Ueforc tlio mu\ sermon I had
declar.'d myself to lie in favor of Mr. Treinblay. After the sermon I did not lot anybody
know in whose favor 1 was. 1 did not declare myself to be in favor of Mr. Tremblay
after the .sermon. I was iini)ri;ssed by this sermon, but not v.'ry much. I said to myself
there la no sin in voting for a iiarty. Tiiere was a large attendance at church when that ser-
mon was delivered.
(Ji(,siioii.—Do you know whether this sermon made any impression on the minds of the
electors concernirg the election ?
1050 Objected to by the Defendant on the ground that the witness is not allowed to give his
opinions.
•iiid. That no general system of intimidation is sustnmed in the bill of particulars.
Objection over-ruled.
The Defendant respectfully takes exceptions to the ruling, which he intends to have
revised.
A iisirrr. — Yes.
I know that this sermon has made some impression, because it has caused many peo-
ple to vote for the Defendant, who otherwise would have voted for Mr. Tremblay.
I was present at a uieetmg held at the village of Bale St. Paul, at the church door.
1 060 I do not remember the exact date, l)ut it was the first time the defendant and Jlr. Tremblay
came to speak at Bale St. Paul. Xi that meeting I was for half an hour by the side of the
above mentioned Rev. JSlr. Sirois. Durhig the sermon to whicli 1 have referred here-above, the
Cure spoke of the dangers that might ensue to religion. He said, referring to the Liberal
party as 1 understood, that this party was stealhig on like a venemous serpent, and that
eventually he expected that priests would walk in blood i inarclu-nwnl lUins Ir sawj.) The
Cure also spoke of prophets and Christs, but I do'not recollect what he said in connection with
that, but [ Know that at the same time he was speaking against the Liberal party.
Cross Examined.
The words used by the Cure in his sermon were the following : " That whoever should
1070 vote for the Liberal party would be considered as a bad Cathohc." I understood that such
a man would be considered by liiiu and Ijy the Priests as a had Cathohc.
I don't remember other words used in Mr. Sirois' sermon, but a longer uitorrogatory
might cause me to remember some. I do not know how long it would take me to remember
other expresssioiis used by the Curt-. I took no notes of the sermon, and I did not expect 1
should have to speak of it.
'V»,'«((oH.— liow is it that you only remember this expression alone used by Mr.
Sirois.
.-Um-er. — I reinomber only that now.
M
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Amons tl'osc wlio were tiirno,! by that sermon, I can niimo On6simo Truchon ; he
1080 «iiul that after that sermon it was not possible to vote for the Liberal party. He was one of
Mr. Tremblay's supporters before that.
I know Mr. Tartc. I spoke to him during the election.
Question -Is it not true that on the fifteenth of January, the day previous to the
Curb's sermon, you tol.l lum or caused him to understand, at Th6ophUo Simard's, m
Bale St. Paul, that you were in favor of Mr. Langevui ?
Anvm- -No. I think it was on the same Sunday that the Cur6 had used the words
that I have reported above, and read the ]3ishops- pastor.,1 letter, and I am not sure for he
spoke of elections on several Sundays, but I incline to think that it was on that Sunday.
In the pulpit the Cure spoke of Liberalism. He said that Liberalism was con-
109U demned by the Church, and I understood that it was because LiberaUsm was condemned
by the Church that whoever would vote with the Liberal party would be consuU^red as a bad
C-itholic. The Cure, also said that the Liberal party (and for my part, I understood that
Liberalism and the Liberal party were the same tiling) were stealmg on hke a venomous
serpent.
Both parties have asked my permission to hold meetings at my place. I gave that
permission and the meetings were held.
When he said that the priests would walk in blood, he spoke of the manner in which
the priests were treated in the older countries, and saul that ^^f'-^Jf^/^^';";;' ]■;";
would happen here. He was speaking in general terms, and he added that as to himself he
1100 was ready to walk m blood on behalf of the priests' cause.
Re-Examinkd.
It is Mr. Langevin himself who asked my permission to hold a meeting at my place-
(^»,..„/„».-Have you been paid for holding that meeting at your place.
Objected to by the Defendant on the ground that the witness' name is not mentioned
.n the bill of particulars as having received money either from the Defendant or his agents.
Answered to the objection :-lst. That the above question results from the cross-
exanunti . 2nd. That tie above quest.on bears upon an item of the Defemlanfs election
IZ, and does not therefore require to be based upon an item of the Petitioners bdl of
particiUars.
1110 Objection maintained on the ground that the witness was not heard m the
^^^^ • Hn in chief upon any of the items of the accounts fyled by the Defendant, and that
rr^r;;:!::— .othe b^of particulars as havmg received money during the
said election.
men the Cur6 said that there would come a time here when the priests would walk
i,y.o„M understood that he meant that the above would happen should we vote for Mr.
Tremblay.
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Tlie foregoing deposition being read to the deponent, .said deponent persists therein ,
and declares that it contains tlie truth, and has signed.
FRANCOIS TURGEON.
1120 Taken and sworn before me at Malbaie this 5th nf July, 1876.
A. B. ROUTHIER,
J. s. c.
SS^h, .-
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PROVINCE OF QUEBEC,) SUPERIOR COURT.
Diitrkl of Snijuenaij. \
THE DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
Etvi-liu) of a M.'uihn' for the llou.ir of (Jominoi,^ for the Elfctoral Dintrict of CharleiHii.r.
Maluaie, 6th day of July, 1870.
Present :— Tue Hon. A. B. Routuier, J. S. C.
1130
No. 14.
BRASSARD et al.
vs.
Petitioners ;
The Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Defendant.
Petitioners' Kvidence.
Etieuiio Tliooaorc Paquet, Member of the Legislative Assembly for the County of
Levy, of the Pa-ish of St. Nicolas, being duly sworn upon the Holy Evangehsts, doth depose
and say : —
I am acquainted with the parties in this cause. I am neither a relative, nor of kin to,
1140 nor a servant, norm the employ of any of them. 1 am not mterested in the event ot
this suit.
Objected to by the Defendant on the same ground mentioned in the deposition of
Abel Maltais. Objectioi. ' 38ervcd to the merits.
I was at Bale St. Taul on the last Sunday previous to the voti.ig. I had been
requested to address the electors on that day after mass in the uUerest ol Mr. Tremblay s
candidature. I was present at high mass on that Sunday, and I heard the sermon which
was deUvered by the cm-e of the parish, Mr. Sirois. That sermon treated oi the election.
The cur6 forbade the church-wardens to allow any one to speak on the church grounds
on that day He told the people not to Usten to the smooth-tongued speakers who came to
1150 address them, and that it was the cure of the parish in particular, and in general the cur.s
of the county, that the electors had to listen to on that occasion, as weU as ou all others.
He related that he had made a visit through the parish during the week, and that in
many places he had been coldly received, and he attributed this to the election which was
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goiii^' (.11, lie liirtliif mcntioued that tlu'ir woro iii tlu) parisli [H'di)!.' who liiil ii spitn
against tliuir euro, mid wlio fi.lt liiitivil tow.irdn liiiii precisely "U acctmiit of the cloctiou
fxcitcinciit ; that thcro wci-o in tliii jiarish straii^'crs whom he would iiiialily as false Clinsts
and false iirophets, ami wliosi> mission seemed to h^ to iiivei.L,'li a^'uiii. t i\w cure, to Macken
his reputatioii, to slander liini in all manners, as well as all thr other ciuvs of the county,
ilelhcu said that these strangers camo to advocate the aholilion of the tithes; now, slioidd
1100 the party of these men, opposed hy th" clergy of the county, reach their aims, tile tithes
would he aholished, and the only way to sustain tho clergy would ho for the (ioverniiient to
grant them pensions, and tiieii tho priests, liaviii;,' only what was necessary to live on, woulil
he iiieapa<itated from ^'ivinj,' alms or doiii^; de'-,ds of charity, and then the (iovernment would
have to tax the pcopli' more heavily in order to pay tlu' pensions to the cleri,'y in t^eiieral.
Ilr tlieii asked why the iiarishioners ilo not listen to their cure in election times as well as vi
otiii^r times, when they are so prone to ^'o to him for the most trilling trouhle or accident.
They apply to him wlien sick, when on their deathbed. Perhaps sooner than they expected
those circumstances might hnve to he faced, and then it would lie too late perhaps to repent
for the vote they were to give, and vainly they would resort to a tardy ri'iieiitance. He
1170 could not repeat at length what he had toid them in previous sermons ahout Cath<ilic Liher-
alism, condemned hy the Jlishops' pastoral \Mvv (nHiintnimii). They knew his oiunion on
that matter, and, once more, he could not too forcibly warn them against tho errors of the
Liberals. He recalled, or rather mentioned, Mr. Hunlingtons speech — a siieeeh full
of impieties, and which, together with the Liberal principles, would breed a religious
and civil revolution. Tho priests of tho county are united to fight Liberalism, and
this in accordance with the Bishops' pastoral letter (,na,i,hm,-i,l). They are to be
obeyed, for in not obeying them one destroys (on hrise) tho hierarchy of the ("burch.
This hi.'rarcby is compose,! of the I'ope, sf tho bishops, of tiio priests having
authority, each in their respective sphere; and by not listening to the cures one disid.eys
11 SO tluTeiore the bisiioiis and the Pope. He then compared this hierarchy to a picture by the
sid(^ of the pulpit, in which a wheel was to be seen. In thi', wheel thevo wuro tho nave, the
felloes, the spokes, hhould the spokes he broken, tlie felloes would give way, and the wheel
would fall to pieces. A disobedience to the cure placed the church in a similar position. He
once more urged them to listen to tlie voice of their pastor, and not to listen to those people
who stole {,-i„tro,h<is,„t) into the I'arish as ]nvying wolves. I'iiey res-mhled the serpent
which deceived Eve in Eden. They rather des.^rved to be expelled. He said that a religious
revolution caused by Liberalism was nearer at hand than was thought. Th>;re would happen
here what happened elsewhere. Priests would be persecute,!, exiled ; but as to himself, he
was ready, for according to a secret of Divine Providence, religion had to sulfi^r these
1190 trials, priests had to 1)0 persecuted, for thus would tiie world, having grown too c.rrupt, be
regen'erate.1 ; b,it woe to those who would be guilt> of the sliedding of the bloo,! which woubl
then How ; they alone would liear tiie rosponsihility.
Tlius it had happened in France at tlie time of the French revolution under Napi.leon,
when he had persecut,-d Pius VJL, but the i.enalty had siwn followed, for on tho day Pius
VH. left Fontrtinoblonu Napoleon had taken the road to exile.
He montiouod Germany, and said that Bismarck would soon undergo the penalty
which lie deserves for his persecution.
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87
To provont tliuso oviU Libcrulisin liiid to bu cnislicd l)y tliu united olTortn of tlie
licojiK' iiiiil their clergy. Thin Uiiidii hiul ciiiHe<l Cmiiuiiv to kvow until now, iiinl tlie sumo
1200 wouhl he in tiio future, lie also mii.l tliat it wiin tiiiou;,'li her union witii O C(UiniH tha'
[rehinil liacl shiikeo off the yoke of lier oiipressorrt. HiiouM the eleutorn follow the faUo
Ciiriwts luel the falni! prophrts. ami si'vcr Iroin their cler^'y, terrihlt? woes would befal the
country.
Kew years jirevious a ti'rrihle woe had punished tlm Provinee of (^ueln'c for tlu' faults
of hur people, in tlu' shape of a scourge wiiieh had ruined the last of lier erops. Should the
electors not mind tliiir eure, other similar puni-^hmeats would .soon befall. Ho once more
ur^'ed thiMi to mind tleir eure, and to vote against Catholic Lihcralism.
This in all I niacnilMr. There was nmcli UKU'e said, uhieli I for^'et now.
The euri- Sirois uttered the words " fnlse Christs" and " false prophets" sovoral tiraos
1210 ^l"'"'"n *'"' «ermon whieh I have just reported.
I understood that these remarks of the cure Sirois were meant against the Liberal
candidate, Mr. Trendilay. I remained at Ihiie St. Paul oiu. day after the surnion, and I
return.-d there the day before the voting-. I left oidy the day after tho votnig. Durii.g my
stay at Ihiie St. ]*aul I conversed with a ^reat number of electors.
From what I have personally (d)sorved, this sermon made a deep impression on the
electors of the Parish. I cannot say whetiier this sermon was reported outside the
parish during' the election.
From what I have been told, and from the opinion of the principal friends of Mr.'l'rem-
lilay in the parish, this sermon has caused a ^'ood number of -Mr. Tremblay's partisans to vote
1220 ii-aiiist hnii, and pivveiite,! II liirj,'e number from voting'. 1 have also scoii persons who
were neutral in the election, and who told me the same tlnng—that is, that the above sermon
had greatly injured Mr. Treuiblay.
Ckoss-Exa.minki).
\Yhat I have stated here-above is not said from mere memory. I took notes of that
sorinon at Quebec on tlu^ followint; Saturday or Sunday after having consulted some who had
heard the sermon with me ((/ki (iraiciil asHixIr an,- iimi d ,r s,n,ii,ii). We made a report ol the
sermon— :Mr. Phileas Huot ami Emile Jacob and myself. IJefore collecting these notes
several persons had asked me to publish this sermon in the newspapers. I refnse.l, and
when 1 wrote tliem it was for my own satisfaction. When I wrote this sermon I did not
1230 lii'ow whether the election was to be controverted or not. I handed those not.'s to Mr.
Treinblay sometime after having written them. I followed as much as possible the order in
which the sermon was delivered. The sermon was verv diffuse. Tho same things were
repeated several times and in several places in the sermon. I have in my possession some
of those notes. I cannot produce them now. I do not believe that Messieurs Jacob and
Huot have a copy of those notes. When he spoke of false Christs and false prophets I
understood that the expression was applied to the friends who came and spoke in the county
in favor uf Mr. Treinblay. T took a pretty active piirt in the elt-ction. I made speeches iu
u
thf cuuuly m tliioc cir tuiu' pivrinhuB in
of till! iioIIm ftt I»ivn' Kt. Paul.
fiivor of Mr. I'ruiubhiy, aiul I roprc^'cuteil luiu at oiio
1240 ("""li"" l'l''"Ht' tdl wlKth.r the Cur6 HiiIhUimI \m Horiu-m will, th^ foll-wiiiK wonln
or ...Muiy th oil,,. lu« wordH:-" lluwan-. oiic. laoro, of tlm... faUu pro,.h..tM who want to
.. Hovor th. .• . , ootwoon you aiul your loj/itiumto v>a.tor« ; tul« no h.,,! of th.u Ium and
•• ih.ir Hlan.U.r.. OlMuliunco to thu Vicar of .Juhuk CUrist conaonu.ing their Cathoho Lib-
■■ i,raliM« ; oIuhUouco to our IJiKhopH. who have- pointcl out to uh itn ton.l.uoi.s ; ol.o.h.n.ct.
•' to our .ui.tor. who tollK us to vote ,»cco.-,Un« to our conHci.,.nco onl.Kht..no.l l.y the
.. ,„Ht„nil Utter {,„a,ul,.,„;>i) of our Lord, th., ISJHhoi.K of the Province of gucboc."
l„M.v. A... i.^ially tlie hitt.t i-art ol th.. ahov-, which sayn "vote according to
your conH.i.n.co onlight.n.d," Ac. &o.. a» l.cin^ tho logic.il «.iluonc.« of the whole Hormon.
Th.. w..r.lH '• voto according to your con.sciouco ■' I 1 surprised m-, an they suomod to
1 .,50 uu, to bo o..ntrmliut-.ry to the l.alauco ol the sermon ; but th. -.ther word.. •■ onl.Khtoned by
the im.toral htt.^r (-.am/,.. of ,>ur h..ly Hi.hop.." llov d in ,lu„ cours.. lron> tho
preniisoH.
I positively swear that tho Cur6 said that he had not hmu ••ceived an usual i« tho
parish on tho occasion of his visit.
Uk.-Examini "
I nuido no speech 'Voui tlie cliurtii door on lli,' Sunday w
intended to make one, hut I (beaded that .oiui, troul,le might h,ai-
.ermon, and specially tla cder prohibiting any speakin- to h^
Tho forogoiug deposition being road to tho deponent, s.
1260 and declares that it contain tin' truth, and has signed.
KT
ri, , Win delivend. I
s.'(luenoo of tho
11 li,. public ground.
oponeut persists therein,
(IKO. I'AQUET,
; UOUTllIER,
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PROVINCE OF QUEBEC, | SUPERIOR COURT.
District offiaguenay
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT 1874.
F.li'clina (if (I Mi'iitlifr I'lir llir House (if Commonn for the P^hrlnral District of' Charlevoix.
1270 Malbaie, this fifth day of July, 1876.
Present : — The Hon. A. Routhier, J. S. C.
No. 14.
0. BRASSARD et ai,.,
Petitioners ;
A>fD
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Eespundetit.
Ptiitiditt'rs' Kri(tf)tcc.
.Joim J3iiptisto JJoldiic, 47 years old, carter, of the Parish of Baie St. Paul, being duly
sworn upon the Holy Evangelists, doth depose and say : —
1280 1 iiiu auijuaiiited with the parties in this cause. I am neither a relative, nor of kiu,
nor a servant, nor iu the employ of any of them. I am not interested in the event of
this suit.
Question. — Did you hear, durhig the last Cliarlevoix election, a sermon delivered at
Baie St. Paul Hy Mr. Sirois, cure of said parish, respecting said election ?
AKSwer. — Yes. .
Qui'stidii. — Please tell what struck you most in that sermon.
Objected to by the Defendant for the same reasons already mentioned iu the deposition
of Abel Maltais.
2nd. On the ground that the witness' name is not mentioned in the bill of particulars
1290 '^^ liaviug 'J*^*-'" intimidated by curd Sirois.
First objection reserved to the merits, and second objection over-ruled.
A. B. R.,
J. s. c.
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l„,s■„•(,,•._^Vhat 1 uiulerstood of this sermoii -vtis that the sermon wan in favor of the
Definiclant. The eur6 spolco of Liberalism in the said sermon. Accordmg to my knowledge
ho said that Liberalism was daugu-ous. Ho spoke of tlio Libru'al party. I cannot repeat all
that he said. Ho said there was a differenc(! between the Liberal party and the Conservative
party. Ho did not truly draw the distinction as to which of the two was the better, but I for
one understood that the Conservative party was the better party. Ho caused us to nnder-
1300 stand, in uiy opinion, that there was some danger in votnig for the Liberal party. The Lib-
eral candidate at the hist election was ^h: Treinblay. He did not say that there was danger,
that is wliat I understood. The danger of which ho .spoke was that the Catholic religion
might 1)0 proscribed. Ho spoke of older countries and said that the Liberals there were
working to abolish religion, and that tlioy wore dangerous. I do not, perhaps, give the
words I'sed by the cure, hut I t(d.l what I understood. I cannot exactly say how he said that
but ho said that in the future one would walk in the blood of tho priests and Bishops. I
cannot say exactly how he said that one w.)uld come to walk in blood, hut 1 understood that
it would happen if we voted for tho Liberal party. I cannot say how long before tho election
this sermon was delivered. The cure delivered a great many, but I cannot remember what
1310 he said. They carried the same idea as tho one of which I have just spoken.
Qw.Hlinii.—Vo you know whether this sermon made any impression on tho electors of
th'i Parish of liaio St. Paul.
.(».s»,T.-I cannot answer as to others ; for my part it made no impression on me,
for my mind was fully made up ; but, according to my humble knowledge, it seemed to make
impression on others. It seemed as though this sermon had in tho eyes of some people
depreciated the cause of the party with which they wore to vote.
i know of a meeting which was held in the Perou range, in tho Parish of IJaie tit. Paul,
during said election.
I was present at that meeting at the request of M. Tarto, agent for the Defendant.
1320 Ho paid me as a carter to go to that meeting. I cannot remember very well, but I think
it was two dollars which he gave me. The meeting n-as held nearly throe miles away from
tho village. It was not for driving M. Tarto himself that he paid mo. It was not men-
tioned wlu. I was to drive when he hired me. It was to take up tho friends of the party who
would .'o to the mooting. I was to take all those who would bo ready to go. Ilieardon
this occasion tho said M. Tarto give instruction to Thtophile Simard, hotel-koepor, to
hu-e all tho carters of the village, and I understood thereby all the carters who used to bo
employed for our partv-that is, the Conservative party-thus to be hired to drive people to
the meethi" There were, I believe, seven or eight, perhaps eight or nine. I do not know
what tho others were paid. I drove three persons in my vehicle, and of these throe, two
1330 had to my knowledge a right to vote at the election. These aro--Mn Samuel Boivm, school
mspector, and Euchor-whoin we called Euger GuiUemet-joiuer. I am sat.sfaed that there
were some electors in all the vehicl.s hired to take people to the meeting. M. Tarte had
told Thoophilo Simard to .end up all tho people of tiio village, without exception. He made
no distinction as to tho name. There were at Baic St. Paul a certain number of persons
who durinij tho election, had boon given the nickname of Zouaves. When M. Tarte told
me to bring up all the people of tho village, I understood all the uieuds ot the party.
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(,*i(,s/jo».— Was it to pcacnfuUy attoiul tlio inootinK that these people were taken up
by the carters hired on M. Tartos order.
Objected to hy tlio Dofondaut.
1340 l^t- On thegronndthiit this ciiiestion relates to uo item of die Defendant's agent's
accoiuit.
•ind. On the ground that the Petitioners can hring no evidence of violence, inasmuch
as the persons just mentioned hy the witness are not mentioned in the Bill of Particulars.
Hrd, On the ground that the ([uestion is leading.
Objection maintained.
(^/rt//,)».-Did SI. Tarte give any instructions to Tlieophile Simard as to how thoy
should L equipped, who should go to the meetmg, [d,' la maniire doni deraient se .jreer ceux
ijui seraii'iit ("e rasxciiiblci'.)
Objected to by the Deieudaut on the grounds mentioned iu the above objections.
1350 Objection maintained.
The Petitioners take exception to the ruling on the two questions above, and reserve
to themselves the right of having it revised by the Supreme Court.
CBOfa-ExAMINATION.
When giving me two dollars, M. Tarte did not tell me that 1 was to give him back
one dollar.
I gave him back one dollar once, but it was for another drive.
In the sermons to wlncii 1 have referred, the cure spoke of Liberalism in the same
way I thou.'ht [ was to understand that Liberalism was dangerous for religion. For my
part' it had no .«e.K because I belonged to the Conservative party. Liberalism and the
1360 Liberal party are the same thing to me. That is what I understood and what 1 understand.
Samuel JJoivm and Lueher tiuillemet seemed to take the same uiterest in the election
as all other partisans of Mr. Laugevm.
Boivin and GuiUemet worked as much as they could for Mr. Langevin. All the
members of the party worked the same.
The fore-ouig deposition being read to the deponent, said deponent persists therein,
and declares that it contains the truth, and that he cannot write his name .
Take, and x,n.n, to befor,- me in ./-.h Court „l MaUmh; this 5tl, Jah,, 1«70.
A. B. IIOUTHIER,
J. s. o.
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1370 rKOViNCK OF QUEJiKC, I SUPERIOR COURT.
DislricI of SiKjiiiWV/. I
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS A.CT, 1871.
Kli'ctidii 'if ' mfinlirr for llie lloiisfnf t ■,,iiiiiHiii.i j'or tlie Flirlaral nhtriit «f C.harlerou-.
Maluaie, this lifth clay of July, 1876.
Present: — Tiik IIom. A. \: Routhikr, J. S. C.
No. 11.
BRASSAEl) ET AL.,
Peiitionen :
1380
Hon. II. L. LANGEVIN,
Defendant;
Pelilioni-ra' i'.ihleiH'C.
Henry Crirur.l, thiity-six years oUl. farmer, oi tlio parish of Baio St. Paul, being duly
sworn upon tlie Holy Evangelists, doth depose and say :
I laiow the parties in this cause. 1 am neither a relative nor of kin nor a servant to
nor in the employ of any of them. I am not interested in the event of this suit.
Same objection as to witness Abel Maltais. Objection reserved to the merits.
I was an elector for the last election of Charlevoix, and I voted as such 1 was
present at a sermon delivere I at liaie St. Paul on the last Smulay before the voting by the
1390 Cure of the said parish. This sermon was on {nndait .ur) the election then gomg »xi. He
spoke of Liberalism and of the Liberal party, and sai,l that this was composed of very
dau"erous man. He. said that the Liberal party was a very dangerous party which opposinl
the "interests of religion. He said that if the electors voted in favor of that party it might
prove ruinous in the future.
He said that the Liberals were very dangerous men ; he mentioned no name. He
mi^ht have spoken of what had happened iu the old countries, but I do not remcrdjer. He
said that there might come a revolution against the clergy, and that the Liberal party would
be foreui'-t in the slauL'hter of {.:,or.,n-) the priests. He said that, from the Bishops
pastor! letter, the Liberals were condemned by the. Church. He had read that pastoral letter
fri.
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1400 «<»i"' 'I'"'' l>rcvious. IIo tlu'ii oxpliiiii'vl tliiit pn-tnnil li'ttor i\:. imriiortiiifr Miat tlio Church
coiidemnoa thn Liberal party. He iiiado othor HfvinoiiH un tho same Huhjoct duriiif; tlio time
of th(! cloelion, hut I do not riMin'Uihor wlnit h(i said. Thuy worn always uttt'raueos agaiiist
tho Lihi'i-id party. During,' tlic soruiou di/livon'd tin tho last Sunday hoforc the votiuf,' tho
Cur6 spoko of false prophots and (if falsn Christs. lit! usfd tlifso words, applying tlifni to
the liilteials. I rcnit^nibt^'r that hi; also used tho words scr/ic/i/.f mdiiinu- (vent-mous
sfrpfuts). llo iistitl thcso words llpplyin^' thoin to thu Lihorals. This sermon as well as
others have made some impression on tliosf who heard them. It is to i.iy knowled;,'(; that
they have chanj,'td the mind of a good many eUetors. One of them has ttilil mo so himself;
as to others, I have lieard so. The Lilieral parly on last election was that to which Mr.
1410 Tremblay belonged. Those sermons, and iiarlicularly tliat of the buiulay previous to tho
voting, greatly injiucd Mr. Tremhlay's caudidatme.
C'UOSSEXA.MINKII.
1 neither know hew to read nor how to write. Tho furt'- has said that the Liberals
were opposed to religious interests, llo has said that the doctrine of Liberalism was adverse
to religion. Tho Ciui5 spoke of the Liberal party in general and not of tho Liberal party in
13aie St. Paul.
VVhou the Cur6 spoke of false prophets, ho said that they were those who speak agamst
tho Tope, against the Bishops and against the priests. When lie spoke of scriienls ho spoke
of Liberalism, lie -aid that Liberalism was a man who glided like a seiptmt. Acconliiig
1420 to the public rumor, before tho sermon the generality of thu electors wore for Mr. Tromblay;
after the sermon this was changed (ca vhuniji}).
1 swear that tho Cure said in one of his sermons that it there came a revolution
against the clergy tho Liberal party would be for. most in slaughtoring (lyaiyrr) the priests.
The sermons of the Curt? have not changed my convictions.
The foregoing deposition being read to the deponent, the deponent persists therein,
tlcelares that it contains tho truth, and that he cannot write his name.
Tiikcii r.ihl sinini tu lii/my iiic, in nj.i'ii ( 'niirt, <il Maliiiii', lld.f 5lli ■liibj, 1876.
A. H. ROUTHIEK,
.1. S. 0,
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1480 I'lioviNC'K ol' g
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SI ^ERIOP COURT.
THE DOMINION CONTllOVKKTl ' ELEOTi NS ACT, 1H74.
FAirlimi i,f a M,i,ihrr fur ll„ lluiisr .,l ( ■nwnioiis, fur llir KLrlnral hhlrirl of Charlrruix.
Mai.iiaik, tin; Sixth day of July. lH7tt.
I'RESENT :— Tho Hon. a. H. Iloi uiiku, .1. H. ('.
UHASSAUD Ki Ai,.,
rclitiuiirrH:
No. 14.
VH.
1410
Hon. U. L. LANGEVIN,
Iteajioiidmt,
Hridriur un llir /iiirl ut'llir I\liliu)irr:t.
Adolrhc (iiriinl, !ii> ywirs ol' iikc (rniiirr) liiiiu.r, of the parish of tliu Unic St. ruul,
boiiiKduly HWoniouthoHoiy (iospls, (l.no.sc'suml.says: -I know tlic jmHiis in tins suit.
1 am nuithcr a rdativo, nor a connection, nor a scrviuit, nor a domestic of any of thorn. 1
hiivu no interest in tho event of this suit.
Objected to as in the testimony of Abel Maltais, and the objection reserved to the
merits.
1 was in the parish of tiie liaie St. Paul .lining' all the time ol the election in question.
1 was an elector and voted at the said election. 1 assi-ted at a siTuion delivered on tho
1450 Sunday pvevious to the vothi- at the Bale St. Paul 1 y Mr. Sirois the cure of the said parish
This sermon had I'm- subject the election which was then taking,' place and which is now
hi .piestion. He spcdvC of the faberal party, of which Mr. Tremblay was the candidate. He
said that this party wished to walk in the blood of priests. He spoke of false prophe'ts and
of false Christs. He treated thus those of that party who were comnig to address us. He
said that this party mi-ht lead them to the -allows, lie spoke of what ha.i happened iu the
old countries; but 1 don't remember wiuit ho said. I don't remember if he spoke of iuiy
thm- that mi-ht happen at the point of death, He spoke in his s.-rnion of a pastoral letter
of the Bishops of the Province. He saiil that one should vole according to the pastoral letter
of the Bishops; but ho didn't say how this pastoral letter said that one shciild vote. He
1460 didn't say thai it was necessary to vote for one rather than for tiie other ; but it could be
seen in his words; 1 saw by his words that he wished tliat one should vote for Mr, Langevm.
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I III. ml th liiHpoinlt'iit HpiiiliiiiK <"> N'W Ytiir'H dny, ut tlic ilcor of tlin oliurcli of Uh'
liiut ht I'uiil. lie npiilii' (if the uluctum ; hut I I'lin't Sivy what he tiiiil ali(iiit it, for I wuh
<ililin(Ml to kct'p inyttclf nt a little iliHtiiuco oti at'count of the iluiij/ir tlu'm was from tlio row
I ^hi, Hi ill II. I'll) you know what iiiul (icciihioiHJil thin (laii|{ur of a row '> (train)
Objt'ctoil to liy tilt! Ht'Hpoiiili'iit, Ikh'iiuhc tl.ih (piimtion toiuU to nivf ('vidi'iici' of un
act ol violi iRi' till' wliiili llurc nrv no pai'liculars,
QuoMtion priiniUfil, liiit till) witiienH not Kivins a ln^ftl ftiiHWor, it is not tmtorod.
1470 1 ilont !•• iiii'Uilii'f il on tluit day lln' cui"' Inul •-pokin of tlic <'l«'otion, he upoki' of it
on ('iinsliniis iliiy, in; spokr o! it in a scums favciral)ii' to Mr, liiinj,'ovin. llii Hiiid that a
oandidutc liiid H<inc> to his pliu-c, and that 111' naid to liini: "you only coiiio to hoo mo at
ilrction tinir ■. " lie did'iit ii:inu' him iiy hit- iianic, hut it \uim undcrHtood that it ".\a.i tln'
liihcriil I'aiiilitiato ; he addid that hi' liiid !<aiil tn him, I don't wish to hls! you, siirji' you only
I'onio to SIC mi: ut t'kction tinn'rt, stay at home, llu added, "you di'ttors, do as 1 did." '
don't II iiu'iiiliLT if lu) HpoUiJof the luaiiin'f 111 which tho oUctorH Hhouid tivat this L-andidiito,
should 111' come to spiak at tho church door. The said Mr. Sirois sjioko iiKain of the
ulcotiun wcvcriil other Sundays. I am not ahio to ropoat all he said ahout it. I cmly
rememher hoiuu hig wordu which ho pronounced and which I rolatod ahovii, in hi.< sormon
1 180 "f til'-' l'^^*- Sumlii.v ; i" li'" other sormoiiH, he ill ways spoke against the Lihonil party. In the
sermon of last Hunday, he spoke of veneinous sorponts. 1 uuderstood that he aiUlre.ssed
these wordn to tho Liberal party, to tho.si' who would come to address us iu favor of that
party,
1 reiiily think tliat these Hormons, above all lliiit of last Sunday, prodiicod an iiu
pressii.n on tho ikctors. I think that this did iiann to .Mr. Troiiilday. It was h'^'^-'i't'}'
spoken of ui the parish.
I can't exactly say tiie harm this did to Mr. 'I'rcmhlay. 1 heard Mr. Langeviii
spoakiiio on New Year's day, hut don't romenil)or what he said ; I don't remember if he
spoke ' 1 the clergy of the county in rel'oreneo to lii.i c.indidature.
1490 ('ro8h-Examineu.
(Jiuaiioii. — Is it not true tnat on tlu' Sunday previous to the votiiiy, tho Curo
Sirois spoke in his .sirnion of Lilienilism?
AiiMir.- 1 loll you that ho spoke ul the Liberals,
Qnisliiiii. — Is it not true that in this cii-cunistance the cure spoke of Ciithohe Liberalism
and that he said ho said that this Liboraiisiu was condouiiu il by the chureh.
Aiisiiir. — 1 'lo not remember that, lie said that we were all Liberals, those that were
ol that party.
QucxHoii.—Ih it not true that in speukuig of sorponts he said that Catholic Liberalism
crept into society hke a vi.nemous serpent; crept after the fashion of the one that had crept
1500 mto tlie terrestial paradise :>
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.tii.vtrr. — I don't romembor tluit.
QiiMihn.~h is not true that in speaking of propliots, lie said that those parties were
false proiihets who spoke against the Pope, the Bishops a)id Priests ?
AuKiiiT. — lie may have said so, hut I don t remember that.
(Jiu:iUo„.~U it not true that in referring to Liberalism, he spoke of persecution
against the clergy iu Germany ami other old countries ?
.liLsMei-.—Thiit is very certain, ho spoke of that, but 1 dont remember his own
words.
(hu'stimi.—lri it not tnie that he said that if the same Liberalism triumphed hero in
1510 Canada, that it would end by walking in the blood of the priests ?
Amwer.^liii said that, as 1 said it above, that this party wished to walk in the blood
of priests.
Qiii:flwii.-'U It not true that it is after he had spoken of the persociiti(m against the
clergy in the old countries, that ho said that tins party wished to walk iu the blood of the
priests ?
Aimnr.— l dont remember if that is before or after, lie may have spoken of that
persecution, but I remember it not. lie didn't say that the false Ghrists are those who speak
against religion, but 1 understood that he called false Christs those that eaiue to speak for
the Liberal party.
1521) (.'»(■«(/()/(.— Do you swear that the Cure said that the Liberal party, and those that
came to speul< for tins party, were false Christs ?
,lii.sHri-.— Yes ; 1 understood that it was that. I understood well. 1 understood it
thus because the Cure said it ; he was speaking of Mr. Treinblay and of those who were
coming to work for hiin. He didn't name the naiuus. 1 ujiderstood that these words were
addressed to Mr. Treinblay, because the Cure said, " Listen not to those false Christs that
come to address you. " And ^\lien the Cure pronounced the words false Christs, 1 thouglit
immediately of Mr. Tremblay.
When 1 said in my prhicipal examination that the Liberal party wisheil to walk in
the blood of the priests, I related the Cure's own words. On Christmas Day the Cure spoke
. r„jx iigainst Mr. Treml.lay as I said it already, and 1 uuder>tood that he spoke in favor of Mr.
Ijangevin. It was spoken of that Mr. Langevin would come forward.
Qite
>7((/».- IMease tell what you did in the interest of Mr. Treml)lay's election ?
,)„,,„.,.,..__1 aidn't do anytlnng at all at the last election ; 1 ouly voted. All the
sermons of the CuiV' didn't in th(> least chanu'o my convictions. I am a Catholic. 1
neither know how to read nor write. We spoke together, many persons, about what the
Cure had said in tho pulpit, and that before and after the voting. 1 was .-.ummoued as a
witness lo Bale St. Paul last Monday, and I came here at Malbaie (ui Tuesday afternoon,
aboTlt tiiree o'clock, i put up at Malbaie, at Uuorgc Filliou'a, a baker, v.ith lliteu oUiL-r wit-
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uussi's. Till! three olhci' vvitiiesses nre All'ml Dul'our, Fniiienis Tm^'eoii, and Ilcni-y (limnl,
1540 llii-'sr two last witnesses lieard in this suit. \Vf didii't speak of our ovideuee, nnd wo spoke
toi,a'ther of what tho Cure luid said. El/ear Dauais, Kuiitkmau {miti,'r), of th(^ ]?aio St.
Paul, spoke to uie ahout it tlie day before yesterday, and I told liiui what F had to do, and wo
spoke toKether (if the sermon of the Cure, and I said to him. " I Know what 1 have to do— to
tell tho truth alone." ]5efore having been summoned as a witness at IJaie St. Paul, Klzcar
Danais spoke also to ine about it.
IIe-I^xamined.
It eireulated among the peoples and 1 have heard it saul by many, that the sormon of
the Cure had changed their opinion. In my opinion, these sermons have caused Mr.
'I'remblay to lose from a huudrod to a hundred and thirty votes. \\'hon tho Cure spoke of
15ri0 false Christs, I thought that he was speaking of Mr. Tremblay and of his friends, on account
of the discourses that the Cure made. This seemed to im to mean that.
lti;-CROSS-ExAMINE|l.
V»('.s//())i.— Please name the hundred or the hundred and thirty votes, or some of them,
that the sia'mons of tho Cure have caused Mr. Trembhiy to lose.
.l/i.sircr.— 1 am not able to name them. It was said among the peopU\ and 1 heard it
said hy some of those who had voted for the Uespondent, that their opinions had been changed
by the sermon of the Cure.
(;»i'.s/((.((.--Name those who voted for the PiOspondent, and who told you that they
had changed their opmimis on account iif the sermons of the Cure.
1500 .-J/Lsim-.— Adolphe Martell said to myself that lie had voted for Mr. Langeviii on
account of the Cure. Napoleon Potvin said to myself that he didn't vote for ilr. Tremblay
oil account of the sermon of the Cure-that he didn't vote at all. 1 ean't name others that
said it to myself. Tliey said to me " There is no means to vote' lor Mr. Tremblay on account
of the sermon of the Cure, and they gave me no other reasons than tluit.
The pre'seut deposition being read to the witness, he persists in declarmg that it
contains 'he truth, ami he can't sign.
'ruh'ii ami .■iWtini Injure iiic in "/iivi C<iiii-t <tl Mullniic, lids Htli .lidi/, lS7(i.
A. B. HOUTlllElt,
1570
A true copy.
CHH. DUBEKGER,
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I'KOVIXC'E OK QL'EBECj SUPERIOR COURT
Dixlfi'i of Siiijw uuij . I
THE DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
Khrliiiii of ,1 Mi'iiilifi- Id Ihi //..»«■ !//■ ( '(iiiiiiiniiHj''ir /lie Hlirlnnil Ditliin of ClidfU-roix.
Malbaie, tlic (Jtli of July, 1876.
I'liESKNT : — The Hon. A. B. Routhier, J. S. C:
No. II.
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BIIASSARD ET AL.,
PcliliiiHcya ,
VS.
The Hon. II. L. LANCE VIN,
Defmulant.
Kridciicf 0)1 the jiHfl (if If"' I'l'lilioiifn.
AllVeil Dnloiir. ;!() Vfiirs olil. of the purish of Baio St. Paul, blacksmith, being duly
sworn U|Hui tin.' Holy Evangelists, dotli depose and say : —
I know tlic parties in tlii-- caiiso. 1 am not related nor allied to, nor servant, nor in
tiie employ of, any of them. 1 have no interest in t!u^ event of this suit.
ir)90 J '"" '' lUiijoi' i" tl'c volunticr militia of the County of {!harlevoix, and as sueh T draw
from the (ioveniment an annual salary of one hundred and tw(Mity dollars. 1 heard it said
during the last election that I would lo.-^e my place, and my fatiier among others told me
so. My fatlier told me that 1 would thus lose iuy placi> ln'caus,. I showed myself more
favorable towards Mr. Tremblay than toward.^ the Defendant ; the other parties who told me
the same thhig assigned it to the same reason. My father was a supporter of the Defendant,
and," as far as f can recollect, it was the same with the other persons who told me I would
lose my place. 1 kept (|uiet after the said warnings, and did not busy my-.'!f any more with
the election. I wislied to meet the Defeiuh'nt respecting that matter. One •■viiiiig I went
to Theophile Smiard's, of Baio St. Paul, hotel-keeper. I mot the Defendant ami told him :
jgQQ"They say that if I contuiue to work for Mr. Tremblay I must lose my place." He
answered: " Who are you ■?" 1 told him I was Major Dufour. Whereupon he answered :
" If you continue, you will almost certainly lose it." (" S'/ voux nmliun,-. nms lu pn-(h-rcz
pmque <;rt„i,uwn,ir He then left uic. 1 think, to go and make a speech at the parsonage
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1 fiumot say if ray father .aw th.s Dofcu.lai.t about tliat time. 1 went many times to
Theophilo Siiiianl's i)Iace. Tliere were many persous with the DelVnaant-my father rtmong
others; hut I don't know whetlier hi spoke to the Defeudaut. ThoHO who, besides my
fatlicr.'told me 1 w.nild lo.. my place, were p isous wlio went evei ui«lit to Theophilo
Simard's, where the Ueleudaut was, aud where I myself went many times. Had I not hoard
IGIO wiuit was told me, f should perhaps have continued to work for Mr. Tromblay, but I dared
not. What Irightened me the most was what the Defendant had told me.
1 was an elector at the election now ni question, aud 1 have voted. 1 saw the
Defendant af,Min on the day of the triumi-h-the same day that lie started for Quebec. I
saw him that day at the church door of St. Urbain, where 1 had gone with those who cele-
brated the Defendant's triumph. 1 shook liands with him, but I did not speak with Inm.
I was present when the Defendant made a speech on New Year's Day at the church door of
Baie St. Taul. T did not hear the whole of that speech, because the row commenced, people
fought, and I left. 1 heard only the commencement, and do not recollect what was said.
Oross-Examinkd.
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I am thirty years old.
(/m.s//o/-.— Is it not true that during the election your convictions were always in
favor of iMr. Tromblay '?
Atisirer. — Yes.
()«es<m». — Is it not true that you voted in accordauce with your convictions ?
Objected to by the Petitioners, as tending to prove for whom the witness had voted.
Answered— That the witness cannot be forced to answer, but that he can answer if
he chums tliu privilege granted by law.
Objection sustained.
The Defendant takes exception to the said ruling, and reserves to himself the right to
1630 have the same revised.
My political convictions did not vary dm-hig tlio election.
I often went to TlieophUe Simard's at night, but never in day-time. The Defendant's
Committee held its sittings at Theophilo Simard's.
Q„exiiou.—lii it not true that you declared at Tluiophile Simard's that you were a
supporter of the Defendant ?
ylfwiccr.- -No.
(jiiesUon.^lB it not true that, you declared or gave it to understand, either at
Theophile Simard's or elsewhere, that you wen; a supporter of the Defendant ?
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•■)0
4(is,r,r. No. Wlml 1>(1 Mr. Liiiii^'.viii lo IwlicVf lliiit wiis tho fact, tiint I oftim went
1640 thi'i-c. I olU'ii Wfiit to Tluopliilu rtiuiiiids l.fcausr \ hud Im'cii toM Unit ^h: LaiiN'cvin wivs
Kuiug to inako mo lose luy place, ami bucausu 1 waiitcl to have news ; that ih to say, I wirthcd
to kiiow how tiiiiif,'s were f,'oiiiK on Mr. Iiaii(,'i\in's side.
ijii.'Mlon. Is It not tnie that you went to Tlieophilo Simard's with tho intention ot
leadiiii,' people to believe that yon were in Mr. JjanMevin's I'avor ?
Answer. — No.
Qiiixi ion. -AShixi interest made yon ko with iiolitical opponents, at Simard's place, to
I, am news and l;now Imw lliiiif,'s went on Mr. Langevin's side ?
,|„,,„,,„,._I],a,l Iriiii.ls there, and 1 liked as well to meet them there as anywhere
else. 'I'liey were personal hiends, and wire in I'avor of ^Ir. Lan^'evin.
1650 (,»(«w/;o«.— Please tell the names of those friends.
^(„^,„,,,.._Thosc friends arc- Andre P.oiRliard, haker, Dr. Fitzpatrick, Samuel Boivin,
school insjiector, uU cd' Hale St. Paul, and ninny others whose names I do not recollect.
I went seven or ei^dit times to Theophile Simard's. I saw Mr, Laugevin only once,
as stated in my examination in chii'f. When I afterwards went to Th6opliile Simard's
place, I did not try to see the Defendant a^ain.
I followed the Defendant's triumph party from Bale St. Paul to St. Urbain and back.
The notary Charles Boivin, of Bale St. Paul, one of the JXdeudant's supportt.'rs, as 1 tliuik,
was in the sami' vehicle as 1 was. There was in the vehicle a blue and white lla^' which
had birn made by the notary Charles Boivin. Jt was he who had hired the vehicle which
1660 conveyed us.
My lather's name is Maxime Dufour, of Bale St. Paul, blacksmith.
(/«(><;o/(.- Please give the names of the parties who told you, as mentioned in your
e.xa.iunatioii-in-chief, that you would lose your place as a major should you continue to work
for Mr. Tremhlay.
Anmrr.-l recollrU the names of none of those persons except my father, but 1 re-
member that other person, informed me thereof. Up to that mornm- i uorked in the intur-
ests of Mr. Tremhlay.
Queslinii. — Please state what work you did.
Aii-'iirer.—l spidie, with others, ui favor of Mr. Tremhlay.
1670 1 know I'.lzear Dauais, of Baie St. Paul, gentleman imilin-/: ho is my brotlicr-indaw.
1 met him almost every day during the election, and every time we mot we spoke of
the election. Ue took an active part therein, lie was one of Mr. Tremblay's prmcipal lead-
ers. Before 1 wa;; .^ummoiied as a witness I had beard it siiid that many persons were to bo
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MiMimc I, iiu,l tlmt I Nvoiiia !..■ ,,11.01,- tli. 1... \l>'. I»i,..;.i. t..l.l mr .., 1h t„n 1 was sum
u,(,n..l, a,..l th.. oth- r wUiichhus HUinmonod. lilno told ii.r s.,. Wo cli.ill.a .ml. utl,., , l.,it I
wan sun' of (• iii,ii,i.'hi ri' diiIv 'vlici. I i'(<-"'V(il (lir s,il.|i(i'iia.
(l„.'sii.H,. -Is ilii.it t.MK' tlmt Huico you worn kuuiuk.ikmI hh witiifs, you .1,'olanMl that
you w.iv .,ot sun. «l,.tl..i- ,t was til.. D.'fmulant or Mr. Tarto who s„i,l that you woul.l los.^
your sitiiiiliou should you ooutinuc working' for Mr. Tromlday '.'
IGHO . I /,,-!» re- -No.
I ,,,ok,. to the I rlri„h,i,l o,. m, Itl.o l.,M o.T,isio„s I Ns.nt to ThH.philo Siiuard'H.
It was ahoi.t sovou or ,•i^'ht days, or al.out a do/.. 1, days iiftur I had hoou warned hy my
I'lithor audoth.'r parths that I should lose my i>l,„..^ as ,, Major, that I spoki. to tho Doftud-
„„t. It i. lik.ly that I ,lid r,ot return to tlu' l)rr...i,la.,ts Coimuitt.r. aftor ho Imd npokon to
1.10, but i 111,, not positivo.
(y»,»/,„//,--l'ioaso ^'ivo tho dato of Iho .lay you thus spoko to the Dofoudant.
Aii.sii- i\ I don't nuiomljor it.
Qii,:ili,»i. Was it at tli.' ho^iiuuiiij,' or at tlio on, I of tho olootion ?
Aiisinr. It was l<iuarils tho .'nd of the oloctiori.
1 1)".)() (Jitr.itinn. Al.out how many days was it hoforo thi' end of tho .■loctiou '.'
.Muvnr. H is hard for n„. to -ivo tho ,h,to, hut it was on tho ovouinf,' wIm^u tho Do
I'oiulant sp(d<o in tho )iuhlic hall.
Qm'sl 1,^,1. What niiilcs you ivnioiiihor that it was on that ovoninj,' ■>
.,„„,„,__,1 saw hm, only that .voiiin-. Ho h^ft n„n,odiat..ly aftor to go an.l spoak in
tho laililio hall. I sj.oko U> \W ]). fon.hiiil in Iho parlor at Tlioophilo Simanl's. it uas alwut
half pastlivo or six. 1 think il was thattinio.
Qiuslu.ii.- ^Mlo was j.rosont at ihat .•onvorsatioii :>
1 don't romonihor n.uoh. Kvory ono was standing and there were many pe,)
plo in the parh.r. The c(a,vorsali,a. was oarri..l on h, the usiuil ton,., of voioo. an,l any ono
1700 h,.ing n..ar and payu.g any attont,,.,. I,. ,t oouKl have h,.ar.l ,t. W,' wore n.^ar tl,.. .loor of a
bedroom ,it the end of tl,,. parU.r. Tho Defendant was standing. 11.. was eonnng out ol tho
bedroom.
i^very time J went to Th,'.oph,le bin.nrd's I saw Mr. Tarto. I don't know if lie was
present on that ,.vonhig. He might have boon there, but I did not notice h.m. 1 never
spoke of tlie oloetion to Mr. Tarte.
(>„,,,;„„._ During the last eleetion di.l you know who «as tl,,' Minister ul Militia ?
.4 ».si(c»-.— Mr. Vail.
<y»e.s/('o».-Did you then know that your situa 1011 was .Upondmg on tlu' Minister of
Militia ?
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AllKlli'l. ^'^,
QiiiHiiu,,. 1)1,1 yipii Idiow that til.' lion. Mr. Viul wii« li uuiiuIot <>| ii (iovi'nimuiit tlmt
iH >upi)t'rt.(| liy Mr. Ticiiililiiy iml liift poUtiuii! friciiilH ''
Afsirn. Vi;-.
Qimliim. |)iil yoii kiimv iliiit nifcncliiiil. wiiw a cuinluliito in oppoHitiou to tlit; pi)licy
111' tlir (liivi iiiuuiit 111' wliicli thr IJiiii. Mr. Vail was a luomhcr '/
.■l)/»iri'/-, — YcH.
(Jill Minn. l)n vdii f^wiMir tliiit yoii lu'vcr htiiti'd to niiyhody iliiriir;,' tlif I'li'ctioii tlmt
yciii uirr ciiic of ilif Di'fciitliuit's niipiiorlrrs.
.l/i.vKi*. -1 iiii;,'lit Jmvi- siiiil -,1), Iml I (IciiiL rfinciiilit'r. F iiii;,'lit hiivc siiul it hh woll
1720 as any ulin r iliiiif,'.
niiiniiiiii. I'liiisi' siiy to wliiini you rdattvl f^n- tlio lirst time the conversation you say
yiiii liml Willi llii' DilVudant.
.I((NH.(. 1 think it was Elzrar Ounais. I rdatnl it to him a month or i month ami
a hulf after.
Wlieii my fatlu'r and the parlies 1 referred to warned me that I would lo^e my place,
they told nie. I presume, '• Vou ^,'0 to .Mr. Liin^'evin'.s Committee.s you will loso your plauo."
The witness corrects hiuiself and nowdeclares that he has made a mistalic. Those
persons told liim he would lose his place if he continued to worl; for Mr. 'I'reiuhluy.
7»c.v/(i/«.— Please state whether you went to Tli6opbilc Simard's place between the
M'M) liftei h ol .lunuary. the nonnimlioii ,, an.l the twenty-second, the pollhig day.
Aiuirer. — I ilon't n nien her it 1 went, hut it was towanls the eiul ot the election lliiit
I used to go to Simard's.
y.'/o//e//.— I'lcase -tate what your father and the otlier parties mentioned to you when
they said that hy wtrldii}; for Mr. Tremliliiy you would lose your place.
Aifiiri:- They - lid : •■ Yoii worl. for Mr. Tniahlay ; it is sure that if Lanf,'eviii is
ehtt..l you will luseyour place." •
Rk-E.\A.MINK1).
There \van no mention made, I ilimk, that the l-'oderal Government would soon tall.
I do uotexaeily recolicut, but 1 think some ono told me that it was Mr. Lanf,'oviu who had
1740 lielped Mr. dirtier to secure my appoiutmeiit as a major in the Militia. Mr. Xavier Cimon
was tlu' representative of tlie (.'oiinty of Charlevoix when 1 was ajipointed a major.
When the persons above referred to told me that I should lose my place they said it
would be Mr. Langevin who would luiikeuui lose it.
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Thcr.. wort, many persons in the apartment win.. 1 spok. to the D.fen.knt, as al.ov.
stated. Th.y wore all spoakn.g together. There wore many persons n. tjc next rc.,m, 1.
.„ th.. parlor there were n.me hat the notahle. (an>.,,rn.nc) persons who Uke,! to ta K. Al
^c! plons wore tallan, together „. the usual tone of voice. I dont ^row who .,rs,
brl-llt the conversation on that suh.iect, when I mentioned - N.r. La.ia.s the threat ,ua,le
to me by the Defeudaut, hut I presume 1 spoke of it hrst.
1750 The torogon.« deposition hem, read to the deponent, 1. persists therem and declare^
it contains the truth and lias sif,'nt'd.
A. G. DUFOlll.
Take. an.l .won, to i.'for. „.. u. o,,-n <'o.,r, oJ Malhai.. flus ^Ul, of Jul,, lS7.i.
A. B. UOUTlllER.
J. S. I.
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PROVINCE OF QUEBEC, ) SUPERIOR COURT.
D'mlrict of Saguenay- )
THE DOMINION CONTKOVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1876.
FAection »f a Member for the Home of Commons M the FAeetoral District of Charlevoix.
jYgQ Malbaie, 6th day of July, 1876.
Present:— The Hon. A. B. Routhier, J. S. C.
No. 14.
BRASSARD et al.
vs.
Petitioners.
The Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Defendant.
Evidence on the /lart ef the Petitioners.
Emilo Jacot, 30 years okl, of Quebec, jeweller, being duly sworn upon the Holy Evan-
gelists, doth depose and say :
1 770 I know the partie. in this cause. I am neither related nor of km to, nor servant nor
in the employ of any of them. I am not intererosted in the issue of the suit.
Objected to for the same reason as to the evidence of Abel Maltais. Objection
reserved to the merits.
I happened to be at Bale St. Paul on the last Sunday before the voting in the election
now in question. I heard the sermon preached by the Cure on that day. The sermon was
about the election. The Cur6 saal from the pulpit that we were m the election tune m
the county, that there were son^e strangers iu the pansh and that we should not l.ston to
those fine speakers. It waB ho who should be listened to on the present as we as on any
other occasion. Those people came mto the county to tell lies and falsehoods. He first call-
1780 od them false Chr.sts and false Prophets. '• Maka them disappear from your eyes, do not
listen *o them."
He advised his parishioners to vote conformably to the pastoral letter {,n,n„l,nnenl), and
stated that it condemned Liberalism and the Liberal party. He spoke for a vevy long time on
that subject. He stated in the begnnung that he had ordered the church wardens not to allow
any ono to speak on the church property.
He condemned Liberalism and the Liberal party Speaking of them, he mentioned
what had taken place m the old countries, naming at the san.o tnne Bismarck, Napoleon the
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. that subject, ana toUl them that at that ;'^;'-"^; ^J, 1 h.tc. " When I go
wilhng to do any thing h. woul.l t.ll thorn but ^^^ ,„ ,, ., ,,, •• .,ui he
...a .00 you on you. doath-boa. ^;; ;- ^^ ;^ ^ f^ V ca.Lato .ho supported the
to them, '• do the same now. He orbade ^^^ ,,, a.d not name Inm. He told them
1800 Liberal party. Mr. Tremblay was that candidate, ^^ '^ J ^^ „^ ^^^ ,^^^^, ^he party
to vote against the candidate or --^'^'^^-^^:^^:^: ^^.^ !,olish them, and he added
supported.by those men would abohsh the he. o . w ^^^^ ^^^^ ^^.^^^_
that after that the electors would '^^^^^^^^^.J^^,^ to a venomous serpent.
He spoke of venomous serpents. lie compaua i
advice : listen to me now."
1 „ftor «ni.l sermon. When that wirmon was
not bo iiiHuuiicixl by it- . . ,
CUOSS-EXAMINED
InpohU. I .elong to the Uber. P^^^^^^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ r I^^ ^^
1820 Charlovo Jin January last, tak^^^: t^tre many of my friends coming d..wn
tuat t.me because there was --^ ^-^^^ ^ ,f ,,„,.,.„« in the election, because I am
to the county. I did not «o-^f; " '^ ^^ ^^ to do something for Mr. Tremblay, I should
„ot a speaker, but once there .f ^ "^^j„, (^,,uie and George) of Quebec, 1 In eas
,,ve done it. My friends wore ^^^'^^ ^J^ ^^.,. p„i,,, Huot, who is an election
'"'' '"^""" , , . the C«6 did not speak of a religious revolutio,> only
n";:r:a:i;a:t tier countries and to Mr. Huntmgdo.s speech,
when alluding to Anai i-»-^ f
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ig30 .l/-.s,r,T.-Ho naid that the Liberals had mich tondoncios, that wn wore driving to a
rcligioUH rovoUitiou by professing Liberabsm and following the Liberal party.
0„,„/„„.- Ts it not true that the Cur6 spoke of LiboraliH.n fro.u the standpoint ot the
Pastoral letter (mcwdiwnt) ?
Au.,nr -Ho spoke of it in two ways, in many different ways. When ho spoke of it
from tlie standpoint of tho pastoral letter {mwul.ment), he said : Vote accordmg to your
conscience, m accordance with (d'apn., the pastoral letter {nuaul.nen,). In another
connection (n, d'a.nrs tcnnr.s) he did not speak of the pastoral letter (mindemnU) ; however,
ho mentioned it once or twice. He after that spoke of tho Liberal party .uid, accordmg to
me, coniplctely loft the pastoral letter aside. Ho spoke both of Liberalism and of the
1840 Liberal party.
QuesHon.-l. It not trne tha. tho Cur6 spoke of Catholic Liberalism on that occasion ?
Ans,rer.-lt is not what 1 miderstood. Li religion I am a free-thinker.
Q„es,ion.-V\omo state m what terms tho Cure forbade his parishioners voting for
the Liberal party ?
J„„m- -Hodid it h. three or foin: different manners, and on three or four times.
He forbade them to vote for the Liberal party. I am positive of tho fact, though unable o
report his very words. I understood it from what the Cu,-6 said, as deposed in my examm.
ation-in-ohief.
I remained about four or five days at 13aie St. Paul. 1 put up at the hotel all the
1850 time, and I suppose the greatest number of people with whom I had some mtercourse were
Liberals.
The Cur6 said at first that Liberalism was like the serpent that tempted Eve in
Paradise- then in his discourse ho again alluded to the serpent in a different manner. 1
Inn i'v his very words, but according to my nupression he compared the Li oral party
L the veue .ous serpent ; he afterwards spoke of Liberalism and the Liberal party as going
arm in arm v mrchmt msemhte) and having the same tendencies.
I have been present at a couple of meetings whore both parties met, in tho Bale St.
Paul ranges.
Tho foregoing deposition being road to the witness, he persists therein, and declares
1 flfiO that it contains the truth, and has signed.
EMILE JACOT.
Taken and sworn before me in open Court, at Malbaie, thk Uh July, 187C.
A. B. ROUTHIER.
J. H. C.
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PROVINCE OF QUEBEC, . SUPERIOR COURT.
DMriet of Sauuenny. I __
DOMINION CONTROVEKTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
,.., ,■ ,. M.„i..M >y ri... ,■ Co.,... for ,. F..n / ..0.. -. CarUM..
MAL1.AIE. the sixth day of July, 1876.
1870
Pbesknt
c :_Thk Hon. A. B. Routuiek, J. S. C.
No. 14.
BRAbSABD et al.,
Petitioners ;
V8.
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
D*fendant ;
Kvidence on the part of the retiticers.
sworn ou the Holy Gospel, dopoHcs aud says : ,. „, ,
• ., IT ,un neither a relative uor a couuection nor a
1 know the parties in this suit. I am " ,,^ ;,,,, of this suit.
1880 servant nor a domestic of any of them. I have no intercut
^^ , in the testimony of Ab.l Maltais. Ob.iection
Objected to for the same reasons as in the t.stim y
reserved to the merits.
, .. .1 elector, and I voted at the election m ,^ti^. I was^ Bale St^-'^;
tUe time that the last election ^--^-;^ ^^^C ^ Un. This sermon had
Sirois, Cure of the said parish, the ^^ "^^^^ J ^J ^^ ;„ ,i,,r,u during the said
reference to the election. There was quite --^ , ^ ^ ^,^,„^„, ,,„,,,,,,, the words
sermon. In this sermon the Cur. ;i-'-;; \^' ' ^ ^ of this sermon, he said that for
that lie employed. But from what I was able to umkr. ^^^^ ^^^ ^^ ^^^ ^ ^^^,
a Catholic to vote for the party to wh.h ^-^^^^^"^ \,, ,,,, electors of Baie St.
1890 Cathohc. I was accustomed to vote tor the ^'^ ^ J^^^^ ^ ,^^„,, ,,,, ,, .,o of his
p...eCaUiohcs. I— ;. .,.,. . ..se Christs and
rrj^rielli^red several sermons on the election.
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BV Mhc Chn.U u,.l I'al- prorhot. h. nvant tl.al tl... onn. from tl, I.il.or.vl party
, . . ■ 1 • !.■ »i, .....in • tliiit it WHS Uii' til I Kti'i) liiwiinl^ lo.-iing
ai.a tlmt it mi-l.t nwl in ..ih \,mn- liuubcll thi.M'iu , tlmt it wa. Ui. i i
...u.s r-lwion. II. spok,. of what th,. LiU-ral party l.a,l ,lo,... lu otlior countru.. H u.d
Itt Fn-.l, r..v„l tion lu,l l.^ua .,v tl... lal.ral party. IL .u,l tl.at in thw revolution
\11 .laa cast „.to pr. i ..ntel.n.,l. He sai.. t.u. tho sa,.. ...... -u
,„.,;„. i„ tins country, and that ..va Ha,. 1,... m.lo lu th. diroctiou • . a
IMDO w, s th, Lihorul party tlml tlni. Uurri..,! us on (;., ^ '><■„ ./ an,.). H >..i.l that . th
'■'' :, Initri-s th!.y ha.l walK. i la hi.. i that ..i. uu^i. , n,. Uy w, Un. in ...
continuing- in tho same r..a,l. H.' sai.l tliat p .pi. ha.l w.tlk.^.l - th.' M '• t-vt'o
l ' H.at th.. Lih.ral party lui.ht ..n.l n, ,1 strovin.. th. ,n-i,..ts and m ahohshin« thoir
Uh.: ; l.nt reiucuhor If h. spok.. of ta... r-lativ,. to th. tith.s. n --^•;-
r ,. , ,lu h.. ha.l snnlu.n of a oaiLli-lat- wh., ha.l «.,n.. to s,.. linn. H.' .h.l > t nam., th.
; ; , : . tt' una,.r. l ......... .a. hnt l un.i..r........ .. t....r.. wa. ..ut
rc,I;lh.t..mtl..:p,,...h.t..a..,..w....p..al..,....Mr.T.^^^^ U'l^t-.
1 ,.,„„.rs, I that h.. s,.i.. it was w.l. th.it h.. wan ahsei.t who., th.s caa.M.it. had
C.U...1 1 h.m t..at ha.. ... h.... ,nv...t ... ..nU ..v. t.-lUnu .... .^;^;-^ -"; ;
1010 I .h.nt ro....m.n.r .xactly h.^ -.'Ms. L^t th.y wore to ..o .iU. i.o - 1
l,„. ,,„,, ,us busiuos. in su,.h ,. way as to mak.. ..na r - ^^ ^^ ^ ,^^^' J,
n. i„l,l u. t.,l.v:.ttl..s.an.li.h.t.i,.tli..sau..> w.iy I. at ... NNo.ild have
he ....1. ]n'.s.nt.
.1 ,t M Siro.s s„.,k. .,f v.n..mous sorpont. i.. ouo of h.s sermon. I lu.ow
n..t...:.:;r ;h:!..:ioyr;..e;e.or,.s .,. ....at.,... ., ,...rah.m. w...... ... ... .nterea
into us as tl... .. ■-■p.n.t ha.l o,.t.r..l .uto t.,.. t..rr.str...l panuhHO.
,1 ...nnns anv dilV.r.nee betwoon Li.)era.ism au.l the
„, lav..r ol Mt. l-au^^v.... „,„„,. -t l,..l ..,.>,. it was well un.l.rslood who w.vs
1920 .sh..ul.l v.,to. b.eaus. th.r. was a ,o,. ..n, u L ^^ ^^_^^ ^^^^ ^,_^^_^^,^
'"'■ « > ■ •"--- T ^^11 X -i'lu ' .: u I. dinger for roh..on ... v.tin. for
vativ. that was th.- go.„ one 11. " /l^'^^/' _ „,. ,,„ .,„,,„„ , ,,a declared
- -"'"r ^"M:"^Tr :.:;:!.- til s.;..,.^ t..at ot .ast S.m.lay I .t.U
„y.,U ... f-;;- "' „ J • • .,, u... b.st ..f .ny knowloa... and beli..f this ser.n..u
d..claivamys.lfr.r Mr.Tr.ml.l.. . lo i „ ^ .^ , , ,a mr.v .,f ll...m. i .nay b.
l,voduced a ..-r.at .mp.vssi..n .... the electors, an.l eh.u.,. I ,. .
n.istalu.i..l..itthisisniy .•o..v..t.on.
1 ,f ,,, tl... ivari-i 1 h.avd m.iuy .leetars (s..v..i or
^.,.,:::u:::::t:;:t..:.:tJ...^.^ ■-.
1,30 .b,..' «.> tl... I..-.. I.."' -'"' '■■' ' •-■■"» ■"■ """ '" '■
\\ ,. ..(t .v .111,^ wh,.a t!i . D.'l.a.lant
' "- ■" "■■■ 'T'\"i:"."''.^"-->-"-^'-' •-"-"""""■'
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uriou«li to h,' iibl. to miy if the MmAnat Hi-okc i>f tho e\i;tgy in i-.tfronc- to lii' aii.li.l.itmv
Th.. Del'. I, !ut.t rtai.l ll.at Iw ho\\M that hn wotil I ' -n. -.1 l.^ .),.• .-l.r -y, m l.i-. s|uvr)i
iin New Yi'ar'H Uiiy,
Till' ('hit ill liH M'nnoii ^i ti... la.t Him.liv ■ i ili<' flwtoM who woul.l \w iit tli.'
I U4(» point of dentil, llo mhpI that Umu l!i. y « .1,1 li.tv. , .r ,u,l woul.l 1m> fw in-.r.' wilUiW
to liKK'ii t.i him than to liHt.'U ti. Mic mstruclioi,, Ikao h. sMi« ,1. livrriii^' then. U" mu.I timt
flic- vvoiil-1 hnv.' rnnor^.' for not haviiii' follow.,! I'l ■ iii'^tii.ctiorn whi.li h" tjuv.' thuiu.
L'llils^■^ (^1 Kn, . .SKI'.
I cjin rcail a little ami M'^n my iiaiij.
OimKiion. l, it not true that lluCaif r.[,oU m his lUlTiTent Horiiioii-* of i.it...mh..u
aicordin;.' to thf pastoral letter {ninnili'mrit/) of the Hishoim''
Aiinii'ir. \ I '<.
<,ho..llon.-~h It not true that the r-ri- Hai.l th:a the false proi.ii,t ir. liin,, -vho
speak ii^'ainttt the Popo, the Bishops au<l tk jn. jtH.
I960 AuMi-r.—Ui) M that and more ; he v.kI that the false pn.phots wure those who
spoke aKahiHt the Hislinps and priestti, and uamo ainouh'.^t us with LiherahMn.
(hn'^i;,m.--lH it not true tlut the CiirA spoke of th> perseerttiou against the clergy in
till old countries, aud that this persycution had heen can od hy Liheralisiu ?
Aiimvfr.- Yes,
(hiMtlon. -Is it not line ihiH the Car.' :.pok? to you of Catiiolie Liberalisin, and that
ho said that this Liheralisui was eondeinned hy the Church >
Aiufuier. — Yes.
1 heanl th.' Ciiie rcMidin- tlie pastoral letter of the Bisliops {fe nuimlniietU ,les mi/ueji).
In the readiiif,' of the pastoral letter (»,«« /.m.,-0 I l"'ii'l the words fals,- prophet, and false
I960 Christs. venenums serpent^. I never d.dar ■■1 to any per-m that I had chan-ed my poiitieal
opinions. The Cure in all his sermons invit d his parishon.r. to vote aeeor.liiiK to the
teachings of the Hishop's pastoral letter (muiflemenl).
The present deposition having hoen read to the witness, he p.'rsists in declaring that
it contains the truth, and has si;,'ned.
OCTAVF. SlMAliD.
Uken awl '»'■'„■,> hefoi-r m% at MoHmU, in ope,, Cox-H, thlx i)t/, h,hj, 1S7G.
A. n. ROUTHIKR,
J. 8. C.
ii
1970
60
PROVINCE OF yuEiiEC. ( SUPERIOR COURT.
DiKtrM of Haijuemij.
.c. I
DOMINION CONTROVEKTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
Klirtioii of a Memh
,„.,or ,hc llou.e of Conu..n.for the F.hrloral Dhtric, ,f Ch.rlevou:
Malbaie, Cell July, 1876.
Presknt ;
-Hon. a. B. Roiituiek, .T, S. 0.
No. It.
RRASSARU ET AL.,
Petitioners ,
AND
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
1980
Diieiiikint.
Kri,Uw,'0,i the part of the Petition,',-^.
. sworu. doth dcros. ,uul say :-l Kno tlic puUc ,^ .^^ ^^^^
ovontoithissuit Iwusancl^to . Uo^ot euro, ,.eachea ou the saia
St. Paul ^•-"«,'^» ^''V''"VL .c^^ iv ennous wore ^.vorabl. to the cuiaidatuv.
of the Doleudant. I heaul a ^uii.o,. a. i Troml.lay, hut 1 mul.-i
candiaate who had «o.. t., pay u. a ^ j ^ j '^ J j,^,^ ^,, ,,, „.,,,. Uic people
1990 stoodhewasrefernn,tohua,beca... lu, poK ^^^^^^.^^^^^^^ ^^^_^^^ ^^^
0. .o.electiou .lo., 1^ «--^''" '■'"" ''":"' . '^:; ;,,",,,. befbvo. On that occasion
visit uio. and I toUUiini 1 .as no "^ '^ -; ^ I^lLc, but on another occasion,
'- '^'-^ -' 'f '- ''"'': '':;;'? ; i 1 U ennon he said he should he v.ceived, as he
,lurnig another scnnon, he did so. Dui n t ^, ,,^.^^^t„,.,, ,^,, ,vords of which 1 can-
instructed then, to do so by his expUuni hon. J^^^) ^ ^,^^,^, ,:,.,,, ,„ ,„,,,,,.,
,.t well recollect, he toid iis t at ^i;'^^^:^^^^ -^-tood hnn to be in favor
U.at the people sho, d -"-;'; f'-^,',^ ^^ t whom, but pointed out for whom
of the DelVMidant ; it was quite plain. lU .lut not ],ef..,.dant.
wc should vote as .utliful Christians, and pointed outtl . ^^^'^^ ,,^^ ,,,, ...t
2000 He said there was danger ior every one who ^'^'^^^J^ "^^ J „,, ,„,,,,,„,,
that party ondan.ered religion by making use 'j^ "M- ^^ ^_^ ,^„ „,,,„, • ,„.,,i,, ^le
Ho spoke of what had happeiie n, tl'-" 'J-^ ^ ^^^^^^ rebellion had ..lowed,
i„oplo had allowed themselves to be blinded by these luui,
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a„,l that robolHon h:ul 1.1 to th. scalfold priests, bishops and other persons. ^^^^^^^
..nach-les were not put a stop to here wo wouW have the same result. I was not piescnt at
U r ache on the last Sunday preceding the election. I can say that these sermons
!ri I ire.nhlays defeat. There was a great deal of talk in the par.sh about the farst
r St sern ,n I great number of elector, told me that they had been very much milu-
: e^ i my Unowi:dge the sermon preached on the la.t Sunday n.duced ma.jy to d.ng
t.utca. X y n Defendant on ^ew lear s Day, at the
20,0 ...... .,™|. -^ '':^::^L:: „„„ ..„. to c». fo,«„, ., a ~,„M.i»,
the House in which the Church f religion) was interested.
Choss-Examined.
favor of Ins politics. The Cm6 -^"^^^ " 1 ^^^ j,^ ,,i,,,„t,a „« by his explana-
202«:;:f;;::"?^;::i-:-"::"- .-^^^^^^^ ■*■■< ■" "-- ^"""'"- " '""
parts of the pastoral letter (n,awlcni,„i).
Quesnon.--U it not true that the Cur. spoke of Liberalism in the same light as did
the pastoral letter {.an,U of the Bishops, which he read.
Antiv)er. — Yes.
Questlon.^^1^ it not true that the said Catholic Liberalism was condemned by the
Church ?
Aminer.—Yos.
One.lon.--y.inot true that he .aid that it was the bad prmciples of Liberalism
.hich iS'ught on revolution and religious persecution m the old countries .
,,,. .,, _.-, did not so understand him. 1 understood it was cm account of the prin
'''' cples .ui::::u.a by the Liberals (of us here), that all those thu.gs had happened.
The present, deposition having been read to the witness, he persists hi the same,
declares it contains the truth, and cannot sign.
Tak.n an,l s.orn l..fore .,e, in o,eu Court, at MaMle, ^ July, 1876.
A. B. IIOUTHIER,
i. 8. 0.
'V.«*
02
PROVINdR OF QUKBKCl
Dulriel of Sdijumivj . I
SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
2040 Electio,, oj a Memher for the House of Conmo,us, fo
■ the KhHoral District of Charkvoix.
Malbaie, Seventh day of July, 1870.
Present :-IluN. A. B. Routhier, J. S. C.
BKASSARD et al.
Petitioners ;
No. U.
AND
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Detendant
F.ddence on thr /.«W of the Petili.mcrs.
2060 A.»i, a..„„„. ,«.■.. =^ >■».. -«■■»'• »"- '•""• »' "" ""'•" "' "■ ™''
being cUilv swoni, doth depose aud say :-
Maltais. Objection'ruserved t.. the merits.
2060 The C. o. St. ...e, M. T.e.b.a, re.d us U.e p^^ letter (....^^^^^^ ^^J^^
..t say all that the Cu. .ud .h^^ ^^22^^^^ ^^^ ^ ' ^° ^^"'^ '^
bishops [,nan,l.n,-n,) but I r.member that ' «-'^ [ ' j.^,^ ^.^ Liberal party. It was
going on, 1 would behave that i ^^ -•^'".luo be better lufonued than 1 was) that
L.^h.s and other things (knowing that g.utluauto^,e ^.^^^_^^ ^^^^^^^^^^
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eo^uon .u.. cu. w,„. -^ ^^^ '""' ^^ ^j" ^^::^;;S": ::;:-u"^
.u^wered you can vot. ior whom you ^-'';;^^^^ „, ..^.i^et if at that
be known .o.- whon> 1 vote js I ^^^^^^^^'^ X Lforohaua. I then .aUl to hin..
.o.uent 1 tola hnn •;;^\7;^^^:^^^: \,' l.ff,,. l..o.whathe.aKl.aB he dul
.'Well what do you say? "Y"^"" J it was better for mo not to vote, the more so,
act order me to vote, I understood * >at .t was b tu Tremblay s
because we then Unew that Mr. '^^ :f ^.^^^.t ' ^ '"^ ''~^^ ^^^ '^ ^^^^'^^
, ,0, .,. thus .s^ W^e '^,!:2:Vca«i«d,o on account of th. sermon one or
.0.0 :: :;::r::- a^- " l. Trembl,. w.. ... ...0 otherwi. voted for h.m. and 1
Low of one other who did as I did and did not vote.
CUOSS-EXAMINED.
,., ^ 1, „f 1 ihpriilism in relation to the pastoral letter
""" ' ,1 r .,,,1 tn the witness, ho pretiats iu the same.
The present deposition havmg been read to the wmies , f
declares it contains the truth and has signed.
ALEXIS GAGNON,
Taken and mwn before me in. open
Court at Malbaie, this 1th July, 1876.
2090
A. B. ROUTHIEll,
J. s. c.
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j'UoviNCi: OF QUPMEC. t SUPERIOR COURT.
Diulrkt of aitfwwij ) .
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
EUctlitn of a Mnnher Jor
Ik.: llm^c of Vommonsfor the ElecKrral IHstrict of Charlevoix.
Malbaje, this 7th day of June. Ib70.
Present :-TuE Hon. A. B. Uouthieb, J. b. 0.
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2100 No. 14.
BRASSARD et al.
Petitioneri ,
Hon. U. L. LANGEVIN,
Defendant ,
Petitio)iers Evidence.
Elz6ar l)aua.s. of the Pavisb of Baic St Paul. 84 year, old, renil.. gcntlen.au, is
examined by the Defendant {mu- le vol dire).
CJw«»«to/..-Please say what religion you belong to.
......-1 belong to the reUg.n >vhich believe. Je.us Chr.t eame .nto the world
" "l....-^Vhat reUg.on . U that you beUeve Je.u. Christ came to this world to
2110 teach '?
0.i..cd t. b, tl.. l.»t,t..ue„. ,— CU .. .,c wit-,. l..v« a.«,..d ,» P»t,«.
.„ u. » Cl!ri.ti,u,, i;»...,.o.«..i .0 t...,ty bcto,. . C.,„t ot Ju.t.co.
Question with<lrawH.
^juestion.-Do you beheve in the existence of God ?
/Insicer. — I do.
Question. -Do you believe in heU ?
ilHSWW. — I do.
2120 you have declared to him. ,
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.1 I . 1 . , tl, . Ciin'' (illl'TllH tllilt 1 <Uil U"t
.1 r.--S.v.noru«hly..rs ago. I , oUn.Mo I. < ' „, „„^^ , ,.„,
,t......l,.n«toar..li«..mof w h ho wan the ^'^-j . ' \, ;\, , ,. , ,„...., wa.
Mr.\l.u«raH .tylo.l hin.H.U a Cath„l,. ,.n,.Ht an,l ^^^ ^ ^ , ^ ^^^^^
,„,„.„.,, a Cutholu.. Sine. I l.-ft iho n.UKU.n «'''-' '''',,X[;\,,, ,,...U I l...li..v..
A. .n.n.st..rs, I pn.r.Hs tho r-h^iou ..f just.c. truth a ^ <^' ^ ^ , ,^, ,^^„., ,,,,,. i
JesuH ChriHl caiuo to tuach U,H,n thm earth. an,l 1 .l-.n t M..o n. tl>e n.l.„.
2130 notitiea the priest Ciin«ras tliut I ha.l with.hawu.
(W.. -, situot.ru.. that.... ..... a.ch.ati..n .h.-h you n.-ule to the Cur.
,U..gral. you h.vve .leehuv,! that .u heh.ve.l neither u. ..o.l no. .,. hell.
, ., . 1 1, 1 „ot \. lieve m Oo,l, hut I u.ay havo saul that
A„.u,er.-A Imve nev..r sa..l .h..i 1 >M not . Uoe n ^^^ ^^^^^
, I .ore in the ph.ce of m.u.y priest. . ..-.Ul .. J J^^^^ \. „ ,„ u.e.u in that
becauHO it was he who nnule ,. livn.« U. thou.. -'^'-^ .^ . ^ ,, ,„„, i ,,. not reeollect
t.u.y usea his .0 to fr.,.ten .he ..n.ers an.I « ' f J^ \^ ^.^, .,,,.,.,, ,,, ,.,i.,f.
-:s:t:;;tt^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ,.,
Ohieetea to hy the Defen-Unt, . well .. to the ev.aene,. „. Ah, Malta.. Olo-ct.on
2140 rcRcrveA to the nu'rits.
■ , 1 l,v the Petitioners, upon tho oath alrea.ly taken ;
The witness IS examine., in tiiu mm. ..^ i
. ., o, p.ni «li..re I was prose..t .Inrin- the last cleetion.
1 •'- i" <1- village o.lhue St. ^ ^-^' ^'^^;i^^^J^^ ^, y,,.. st. Paul. AceordinK
I ilnnk 1 h:ive ni.'t the ni.ijonly ot the el. ^ i^^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^ .p,,M.hl.iy of tV«'m one
to n.e, the result of the Cure S.i...s sw . ^^^_^^^^ ^_^^^^ ^_^^^^ ._^ ^,,^^ j,,^,-^,,
,.„„area to one hu-ulred .md filly vo es . ^^^^^^l;^ ,, ,.^, ^.,,„, . ,. , ,,.^ority of
w.i..out the n..ervent.on of th.. eler.y. I ^ ' ' . ' ^,,^ .„ ,^,„, .,• u. Uef..,.a.u.t. The
..,,. „..,are,l and twe,.ty-one or o,., imndred - ; ^ ^^^ ^;^,,,^^, ,., „,, .,,,.„ ,.t least
senuonsof the Cu.. re the t^.p.c o. "^ ^^ ^^'^^ U^^. ,,;,,,. w.is spoken .ihout.
„,. ,a, those 1 have w.f.essed m private ''"'."'"" ^.,^^ ^,., „,„t spoken of. w.is
Th,. senuon that ereat„. th,. .r.l.est "^7';;- ,;":;; ,,,,„ of the sixteenth
„.. .,,, i,fe.ielied .... tl.,- lasl ...nd.iy hef.^ « " . ^ _ ^^^^.^^.^ ^,^^^^ ,^,,^. ,^„„,, ,..
.,f : ,„„,y Just referred to, iini-.y l'--- ^^ ^^^.^^^ ,,„, ,, ,,.., only n case of conscience
,„„„.,., ifthey voted for >;...Tren,blay; ^'^'''^^2^]^ ,,^,, ,,, ,,, that the said range
(„, .. ./. co..o;....e). Three or four persons of J^^ ^^ ^^^„, i Heard
las totally lost for Mr. Treiubl.iy m -'-'^l"-;. ;' ^^';j ^ (.../.-/.Ve) of I.aie Bt. l>..ul
tuo Defemhint s.iy.n, at a meeting hel. ui the parson o 7 ^^___ ^^^^^^ ^^^ ^^^^_
Ithehadcoiuem... ^'-""-^."'f ^ ^ 1:1^:.:^ t: ^CL the ahove word, were
-f- "::r;;;;:e::r:r;lidh,ive he..., possible durhi,the .ectiennot to hear
"""'"\ ,,„. M..or Alfred Du.ur^ who ^;^^- 1;-^: ::;:;;;orl!:n't;t;t^
Mr. Tremblay .it the begmnuig o. the election
2150
2160
1.
2170
2180
(If)
.1 1 . 1 ... a.Hiiuiiil to iibaiuloK til"
l.,a iK.u throaU.m.d to loH. l.iM>l'vc" "« ^'"J"''
Orob»-Kxaminku.
1 • 1111(1 uivo mv eviiloiiot'
i. ti. t..Htat.o". Hu... i u.n .... •' ' ^ ^^;;,,,,,. i ... not nure of .t
y.tera,>y or ... a,.y ..fo.. U.t I ^^^J^^,^, ,u ycntonUy, I w.. pro.out ...^
J Uave worko.1 f-r M. '•'-''''^^^'^tlsH ... -' «ono out in tl. l--^-
,.U1 by ..th vavtu. at ,..io St. ^j- j^,,, ! ,^1^^^^ U^'-" ^^
eanva s..a tUo w.u.lo P'^r..!. in Mr. 1 r.ml.laj u - ^,„^.,j,„, , ai.l not boar tl e
l"tU. U>va.r.. St. l-rancis n. tl>o .ui.v.st oi ^-^^^n:^ tbo olocti..... K tb. C'uv. SmuH
hud not pr.acb.a a. above stutu.l. tlu^ rosu.t o > ^^^^^^^^ ^^ ^^^^ ^ ,,v.nty-tour.
L t.a\.uuo a« tbat of t..o o.eet.n ^^^^^ ,,;^^., .,, „ts, wbo tbon .leCar.
i„,,,tbat IVon.tb. manitV.tat.ons 01 Mr. ^ 'j ,,„ „t. ^,... Tr.n.blay'. snrnort.r. ^^bo
,. ,.. .U..r.. t'Y'-;'- r:u ';::r -non. ana . ao n..t Know . be ^ a
iut..na.atooin.osolnmlorotb.ruu
,,,, to vot,. ; ins nan. .s .Tolmny McUan. ,,, .,n..u ... bunar.a
.eoran.to...>U.W.--^^^^^
toonc.bunar..aana.iltyvotosatl.a.^t. laul.
Curd" Simi'^.
2100
^y,„«/i..M.-^lHitnottrm'
,l„„vouan.ut-unuty..tbtl.Cuvo
,1 ii« '
2200
y-"""-^^"'^"""" • . aov'..avc.,.nonbaatovn.H.itb
,,:r;:;:;:':i::s,:r:>r,::-' < - -
:r:::*u ...-'«—"• r -
"»«« '"^''^- .„ ,,,, footu.' of ^"""ity or on h.A t.rnis ^vith
,,, c„6 only .nee bo .poaa. y ^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^_.^^^^ ^ ^._^^^^,^^ ^.^^^^
,„.«,..._Tbc C«r. .aul so. but >t wa. a .. ^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^, ,^,^, ,,,„,, ,,,„y
IX. 13ut,auru„tbuAmoricanwar,bou.goneaaym y
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(logs, we ilociacd to giv<> e.a-li of tliriii tlio imm.' cf s<iinc (lolclivity. One callod his do^' Bootli.
iiiul as for mo I sai.ljokiii-ly I iiiii goinj,' to call miuo L'ius iX ; that do^-'s name wns rump.
This occurred ahoiit ten years hefore tho coming of Cur6 Sirois lutotlu: parish. It may ho
that afterwards I liitvo sonin tinios said Pins TX when spciil^in',' to my dcj,'.
Ue-Examined.
As fur as I can recollect, Mr. •|'i-eml)lay had a majority of hctwern «7 and -lO votes in
18V t lit l?aie St. Paul. I hav.' noticed as ahove stated that Mr. Tremhlay had had this yoar
a raucli larger majority than iu 1874. At a meeting hvM at Uaio St. Paul in the month of
2210 .June or July last year', Mr. Tremhlay addressed tho electors. There wer..- as many and even
m^my ni'.ro people than there is generally the ease after mass, hocause the meeting was pre-
pared hefore hand and Mr. Gauthier's election was to have heen discussed at it. Mr. Trem-
hlay spoke iu favor of Mr. Gauthier. I cannot say what Mr. Gauthior's majority was m that
election, but nearly the -whole of Baie St. Paul was for him. I think he had more than 1.^.0
votes of a majority at Hale St. Paul.
I cannot a crihc the uhole of that majority to Mr. Tr.'mhlay's support, but the
greatest portion of that majority was due to th" said support.
(.'»^,.;i-o».- Please state if, during the visits you made t(,. the electors of St. Urbaiu and
Petite mvierc, and of wlach you have meutioned when cross-examined, you have satisfiod
parishes .
Ohiected to by the Defendant at; not resulting from the crossoxaminatiou.
Ol)i;ctiou iuauitainod.
1 leave never called the .log I have spoken of by the name of Pius IX iu earnest. If
1 did call hnu by that name it was jocularly. His true name was Pump.
Ue-Ckoss-Examined.
(Jnext;on.-\)o vou consider that at the me..ting of June or July of la.t year the
greatest'number of Mr. tiauthiers .upporter. were .Mr. Trcnd>lay's political fneuds ?
Answer.- Yea.
'J'>30 The Gure Sirois was opposed to the candidature of Mr. Gauthier.
The fore-'oing dt-posiiiun being read to the witness he wi,hos to make tho following
correction thereto: 1 was invu.d la.t week by Mr. Tremhlay to come to Malbaio in order to
bring him some notes tliat I had taken r.dating to the contestation of the election.
The witness declareth that his deposition as corrected contains tlu> truth an
signed.
E. DANAIS.
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2240 PROVINCE OF quebp:c, \ SUPERIOR COURT.
Dintriet of Saguenay- )
THE DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT 1874.
Jilection u/'u MemherM the House of Conimom fm' the Ekctoral District oj CJuvUvoix.
Malbaib, the rfeveuth Day of July, 1876.
Present:— The Ho.>i. A. B. Routuieb, J. B. C.
2250
BRASSARD, et al.,
Petitioners ,
AND
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Defendant ,
Avidence on the part of tJie Petitioners.
L.uu-onl i'notte.uKud 43 yoarH, carter, of the Pari.L of La Bale St. Paul, being duly
Hworn upon the Holy Evangehsts, .lotli depose au.l «ay : I knon- th. parties in thi. case. [
am not related nur ."tllied to, nor « servant to any of tliem. I have no interest m the issue
of tliis case.
No one sm>k, me about a position as lightliouso ke..per duruig the election in ques-
t..n. I myself 'spoke of it to some electors. I applied for a similar position betore the v-ot-
nm and got Mr. Tarte, the Defendant's agent, to sign it. To the best of my behei I got n
lawyer, who came down for election ,,m-poses on behalf of *he Defendant, to sign it also ; 1
2260 believe it was Mr. Caron ; and also by Mr. Rouleau, a member of Parliament, ^vho also came
down in tlie County to work for the Defendant. I could not say if I got the Defendant h.msel
to sign. I ..poke to him after the voting. When 1 got the petition signed I was desirous ot
obtaining the position of lighthouse keeper. The petition was signed by others when I pre-
sent6d ,t to them for signatures. They looked at .^ and signed without saymg anything. I
kBOW of a meeting that was held m the concession Peron of Baie St. Paul durmg the elec-
tion 1 was asked by one Simard to attend it^Joseph or Thcophile. Theoplnle keeps a board^
ing house, and Mr.' Tarte and the Defendant used to board there. He agam came and asked
me to attend the said meetmg. He did not ask me to attend it us a carter, and I unaerstood
Uim to ask mo to go as an assisUuit. He said " You will have a carter to drive you ns
2270 being provoked by my remark that 1 could not walk there. I was an elector at the .aid election,
li?voted. lU "-ing t. the carter ^ho drove me to the nuHmg. I went^o nearly
all the me(.tmg8 held at theophiie Simard's. I saw no one eat or cU'ink except the Detei.dant
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unci Mr. Tiirte, ami 1 did not drink mvsplf, Tli<'"oi)hil<' Simsird raado mc no sii^rgostionK
I ncuMmeiulation-i) toucliiii;,' the mcetiugs ; at IfiiHt 1 am not .sure, mid possilily ho may have
mado me mouic. I (iiu Mm- l!|ilir*'ni Gagnon made mo some.
',/""•''<"'• - ^Vili y(iii lul vvii.it su;,'gf.-.ti()n iio made ymi, and what took place at hJH
honsp '?
Thr witm-js' iinswiT t.'udiii'-,' t'l ppiv.' pi-oparations of viidonc, mid ihi' Defendant's
attorncyi- <)lij( ctin;,' tli.nt.o, tliu C'lirt iii!i;!itains tlu' oiijectiou, and dot's not allow the answer
2280 to bo entorod, an the particulm's dn not hit forth such vudence.
Oiijoi'ti'd to ;is ill tile (Mil'. HIT ul Alicl Maitiiis. Objection reserved to the merits.
I was in-.s.iii ,11 ii m.ciin;.; held hy the Defendant at Bail St. Paul, at which Mr
Sirois, cure of the s;iid I'arisli. atteiuled. After the speech he (the Cnr6) spoke with Defend-
ant, Imt [ do net know whiit they said to one another. I was present when Mr. Treiublay
mid tlic Defcndiiut addressed the eleotors at Haie St. Paul, on New Year's Day after Mass.
The ilefendant spoke of tlie eler^y in reference to the deelion, and he said the clergy
ought to be helped, and thiit our member, (who 1 understood to be Mr. 'I'remiiiay) did not
help them. He stated he iiad lieen asked to run by ()u<'--iine (jauthier :lil Laroiiclie. memher
for the Local Legislature, and by llie clergy. 1 was present at Mr. Cure Sirois' sermon, the
2290 last Simday previous to the voting. The sermons he delivered nearly every Sunday had
ri'ference to to the election, and he certainly delivered four or tive .sei-nions on this subject.
[ understood liini to speak in tavor of tile Defendant's party. He seemed to me to bo oppos-
ed to the Liberal Catholic iioiige party. I understood him to say that of a party which
existed ill Canada ,'romthis County upwards. He said this party might become as in France,
fall into revolution and destroy religion. I understood for myself it was a case of conscience
I iiH ciif! lie ai".sv(V//cey to vote for the Liberal party. Several persons spoke of it in the same
way, but I cannot recollect thi'ir names. When I went to the meeting at Peron I received
nothing for loss of time. According to my knowledge Mr. Cure Sirois' sermon injured Mr.
Treiublavs candidature, at least 1 believe it did. 1 cannot state to what extent they caused
2300 damage.
Ckoss-K.xa.mined.
My petition was signed 'oy thr.'c or four Liberals before I presented it to Messrs.
Tarte, Ciiroii and Uouleau for signatures. They were Dr. Simard, A.lolpiie (iagiion, Ksq.,
late member for Ciiarlcoix, and Mr.liirondin, advoc.ite, all from liaie St. Paul. Mr. Adolphe
Gagnon was \sorkiiig for Mr. Trembhiy at that election.
I know Alfred Dufour, blacksmith, and a .Major in the Militia and a witness heard in
this case. He often went, to my knowledge to Theoiihilo Simard's. It was the idace of re-
union for the Defendant's support<'rs. He went tliere at the en.l of the election as well iis at
the beginning. Major Dufour appeared to be a supporter of the Defendant, i say this be-
2310 c'lus'! Ih- often went to Theoplale Simard's. He sjioke with Defendant s supporters, and
treneraUv the sinip.irters of another party don't assemble together at private meetingH ; it
might happen once or twice, but it is not the habit for many times. At the last election at
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bui.. St. P,uil the parties wpr« vory cleurly dooidiMl, and Mr. TromhlayV supportorM wore not
in the lialiit of (,'oiiif,' U- Mr. Simard's.
Qno^iio,,. -l.ituottvurthiii th. Cur^-simkoof Liboralsm fn.n. tl... point of view of
the 15isli.)p;, pastoral letter {le mandement), and after haTiug read it ?
Aitsuer. — Yes.
He read this pastoral letter [U. maiidment ) several times. I believe twice, and preach-
ed his sermons on it.
2320 Qacstiua.—U it not true that the Cur6 said, speaking of Catholic Liberalism, that it
was condemned by the Church ?
Aiuvm:-i am not positive whether he said that or not, but I understood that it was a
case of eouscieuce [un r«s,le eomcinwe). I am positive in stating that on New Year's Day,
the Defendanl declared attho church door, to the best of my knowledge, that he had been
asked to run by the clergy ; but with regard to On6sime Gauthier I am not positive m
stating it.
Thl>^ witness, after the reading of his evidence adds that Mr. Ferdmand Stafford, of
Bale St. Piiul, supporter of Mr. Tremblay, then spoke to him during said election about the
position of lighthouse keepei, as uieutioued m his first answer m his exammiition-in-chief. He
2330 also adds that he did not give Mr. Tarto his application to sign, but to get it signed.
The iwesont deposition being read to the witness, he persists therein, declares it con-
tains the truth, and he cannot sign.
Takiii awl siium yfore me in upen Covrl at Malhtii,', this 7lh Jidif, 1876.
A. B. ROUTHIER,
.1. a. c.
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I'ROVINCE OF QUEBEC, 1
DiHlriil tjl' Siniarnaji. I
71
SUPERIOR COURT
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
Election n/n Member fw the lloiue of Communs far tin: Eleetorid Dintricl of CItarlevoix.
2340 Maluaie, the 7tb of July, 1876.
Pre8Ent ; — The Uon. A. H. Houtiiikr, J. 8. C.
No. U.
BRAySAHD, KT AL.,
PetUwiiem ;
vs.
Hon. 11. L. LANGEVIN,
defendant ;
Evidence on the part of Petitioners.
Sdraphiu Lajoic, aged 45 years, farmer, of the piirisb of Malliaiu, being duly sworu
2350 "pou tlii^ Holy Evaugelists, doth depose aud siiy : —
I know the |iiirties in this case. I iini not related or allied to, nor servant to, any of
them. 1 have no interest in the result of this ease. I know .losi'pli Stanislas Perrault,
advocate, of Malhaie. I had a suit in wliicli Mr. Perrault was eoncerned. 1 was defendant,
and be was the plaintiH's— my mother's — attorney. To my knowledjje, the said Mr. Perrault
looked as if he took a great interest in the Defendant's eandidatiire at the end, for at first thu
was favorable to Mr. .Joseph Kane. When 1 used to uieet hnn, during the election, I was in
the habit of challing him with reference to my suit and to the election. He has pleasing
manners. When Mr. Kane's reijuisitiou was spoken of, I w^int'io Mr. Perrault's place, aud
he made me sif^n Mr. Kane's requisition. When 1 had si<,MU'd. he told me that if I joined
2360 them [iiuirchais uvec enx aitircn), 1 would hear no more of my mother's suit against me.
After the Uefeudant had become candidate, he again spoke to me about it, aud
repeated the same words. He asked me if I was for {ni je marchain avec, the Defendant,
sayuig to me that if I was with him (nije inarchain acec /iii) 1 would no more hear about my
suit. This last time it was 1 who went to see him about it. Tiie first time it was Sdraphin
Villeneuve wlio brought me from Mr. Kane's, whore 1 was, to Mr. Perrault's. The last time
he spoke to me about it, he said he scarcely relit'd upon me, iu order to see what 1 would
say. I only declared f()r whom I was after the voting. Tho suit was aftprwardw continued
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al tlu' iM.t sitting' nf til.. Court, at .M.ilbuio. in M.»y la.t. I Mu,^^' I m^Av .n-n.- ..I.HCTV,r.«ns
t.. Mr. I'rri-ault s^li.u I saw tli.^ suU wan coutimud, luul thtno roiimrk*. an.- e.i»y to uu.lor
'»370 Htainl !• «,.. tl.Mt h.' was not a man who l(,.|,t Ills wonl. H,- did n-.t an»w.T much, for
,i„l ,,,, ,vl.>,, w.M.n in lidli. I li.'anlas,...tclM.I D.fon.lai., at thf church -loor
„f M.i: M ..„- Ihf oluctiou, Th. lirst wor.ls I hnir.l, and which many of .,iy fri 's
also h.ur sort), Uittt ho ca.mi as candulatr ■' tli.' instanco of Mr. (iauthicr, locnl mom r,
a.iil of ti .Icrtry of tho c.mnty. To the I i of my hilirf. lliis was th. hcKnumiK of hi.
npoech. If li.' I anythiuK bcfoi. . [ tlo not rcoolUict it.
Crobs-Examini!1>.
I voted lit tl, last cloctioii. My sympathies during' tlie t-h^ctiori wore for Mr. 'i om-
1,1 ,y. At tho h.-,niiinK of tho oluction f liad channed my convictions, but at tito end I came
back to Uie first ones. When I state I ha.l cha.iKed niv convictions. I add I puv a proof of
2380 it *1'''" I ^'K"^'! M>'- 1^'"'^''^ rciuisit.Mii. It was ou or about the IHth or l!)tli December kst
•hat I SI ii.vl \rr. Kauo's requisition. When I signed his requisition, Mr. Kane was not m
• Id as a candidate at the said ebction, but he iiisist(Ml ui-on -mr siKiiin- b.'foro he came
d. When wo signed said reciuisition, Mr. Kane t(dd me he would como forward
much only as he would bo sure of his return.
(>,«.«<.<»/. -I'lease state when Mr. Perrault told you for the first time if you joined his
party you would hear no in'U-t,' of your suit ?
.l«^»y,-. 11 1 mistake not. it was the IHth or 19th December last. It mi«ht bo a few
days before or after ; but i( is i...siiively the day I siRned Mr. Kane's reMUi It is then
I went to Mr. rerrault's with beraphin Villeneuve.
23U0 (Jnestion.-lx it not true tl.ui Mr. Perrault never told yon ho would , . r suit
drop if you joined liis frieiula, after the Dcf.;udant hud come forward as candidute ■.'
A)iMiiri\ — Yes.
Ou,:.ihoa. — \>i it not true that last spriiif? you told him that Henry Simanl, of M,;. .u,
had made you si^-n an allidavit a solemn .leclaration— accusing him of th.' facts related by
you in v„iir examiuation-in-chiof. and that you assured him (Siraard) that ho was wron;,' in
allef^'ing such fact in the afllidavit or sidemn declaration ?
^ nmicr.~l did not say that, but I said when Mr. Simard ai?kod rr" tor this declaration,
that I did not like it, because I did not want to appear before Co-irt and J a.hled that it
he brought me before Court I would say noihing. With re-ard to tb.s .ame declaration,
2400 I told Mr. Perrault that Mr. Simard had made mo sijjii it, but that I oxpoct'^d,— without
knowmt! much— that it would not amount to much and cause little damage.
Question.— Is it not true that on this occasion, you told Mr. Perrault that this could
not cause much damage or harm, for he ha.1 never told you tho words related in your
examination-in-chief ?
An'<-wer.—'ii\ this ia my answer to the last question.
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Quextion.-la it not true tliat you told Julea Trudello, of Malbaie, whoelwright, last
spring' or fit l)oj,'iiiniiiK of Huramer, that Mr. Pcrrault iiovcr told you, iu any time, tl'at be
would let your auit (b'op if you joined liis friends ?
,!«.•</(,■.■,•.— I eannot iiave said this, for what 1 say m Court, 1 swear iL, and ouo of Court
2410 1 am not under oath. When people are too anxious to know I pay them off.
Quf.Ktioii. -Do yon swear you did not say such tliiuss to Jules Trudello '>
Aimm-r.—U 1 was intoxivjated, I may hav(^ told him, init sober, there is hardly any
possibility. If 1 said it, I have no knowledge of it, and I do not recollect it.
Qmstion.—lti it not true that you told Jules Trud(dle, that you would state under oath
that Mr. Perrault never told you the words just rtdated '?
yl/i.fttVT.— To the best of my knowledge, I never told him; if he states so. he invents
it 1 have not a'ways good memory, aud I have often known myself to lose it. When 1 fed
Jules Trudelle's animals I had not taken any liiiuor, but I was tired ; I am under the
impression he did not say mueh to me then. When I was feeding Trudelle's animals, I
2420 went to Mr. Perraulfs olliee and I told hnn : " It appears that you are annoyed because I
said that if I joined your friends you would cause my suit to drop, well don't believe that, it
is a lie." I told hira that, for at that time he was about ruining mo with that suit.
Quesl!on.—]ii it not true that -wui then added "you know well I cannot have said
that, for you never told me it ? "
Anxiver. — Certainly.
Question.— l^ it not true that Mr. Perrault never told you the words imputed in your
examination-ni-ehief, but that he shiiply answered, when you asked to stop the suit, "we
will see to this later '' '?
^l„,,.„.,r._H,! pi-onouuced the words lei h1 in my examination-in-chief, but what is
2430 supposed to have been told me, he did not say it. During the election in (piestion, I went to
Mr. Kanes, notary of la Malbaie, and at Mr. Perraulfs place, and I told th^'m I was their
political friend, and in favor of Defendant.
After having been engaged as above stated, 1 had to follow my engagement, but when
Mr. Kane resigneil at Bale St. Paul, I, thought I was released. It is not true that liy my
words and deeds durhig the last election, I showed I was the Defendants friend. Last
Sunday, I think I spoke of my testimony to Messrs. Tremblay and Himard, and they asked
me what I would have to say, and I answere.l then, it is what Mr. Perrault told me, and
they did not ask me any more.
Re-Examinkd.
2440 If in my cross-examiuati(ni, I aiisw.'red iu such a way as to indicate that Mr.
Perrault had not spoken of letting the suit drop, after Mr. La'ig.vin had come forward as a
candidate, it is that I wrongly understood the question, for Mr. P.'rranlt spoke to me about
it and. T believe having stated it in a part of my evidence.
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Questi<m.-\Vhen Mr. Perrault apoke to you. after the olcction. of the declaration
given Mr. Simard, did you not teU him he had never told you the suit would be dropped ?
Objected to l.y the Defendant, aa placing in the witness' mouth words he never said
in his cross-examination.
Objection over-ruled,
,l,wuw.-No, no, if I said the contrary in my cross-examination, it is because I did
2450 uot imdevstand the question.
The present deposition bemg read to the witness, he prosists therem. declaring it
contains the truth and cannot sign.
Taken ami sworn before me at Malhaie ia open Court this lih July, 1876.
A. B. ROUTHIER,
.1. 8. O.
PROVINCE OF QUEBEC,
DiHlrict of Sayuetiiiy.
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SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, l?7f..
Election of' (t Member for t/ie House of C'ommutin I'ur the Electoral Dut)ict of Charlevoix.
24G0 Malbaik, this Boventh day of July, 1870.
Present : — ^The Hon. A. B. Routuier, J. S. C.
No. 14.
BRASSARD, et al.,
Petitioners ;
VS.
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Defendant,
Petitioners,' Evidence.
Francois Harvey, 35 years old, farmer, of the Parish of Malbaie, being duly sworn
upon the Holy Evangelists, doth depose and say :^I know the parties in this cause. I am
2470 related or allied to, or servant or in the employ of none of them. I am not mteret^d in
the issue of this cause. I was present at a meeting held by tlie Defendant during t^e last
election at Joseph Bouchard's, in Malbaie. The Defendant made a spooch. At the end of
his speech he said he did not promise any money for the present. He said it would perhaps
take a year, perhaps six months, perhaps three months, to overthrow the Government. I do
not remember what he said would occur as to money after the expected fall of the Govern-
ment. There were a good many electors present at the said meeting. I do not remember
how he came to thus speak of money. I have not understood what ho meant by that.
The Defendant declines cross-examining ths witness.
The foregoing deposition being read to the deponent, the said deponent persists
24S0 therein, declares that it contains the truth, and that he is \uiable to sign his name, as his
hand shakes too much.
Taken and xworn to before me, in open Court at Malbaie, this 1th of .Tahj, 1876.
A. B. ROUTHIER,
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inioviNCE OF QUKUKC. [ SUPERIOR COURT.
NCE OF QUKUKC, I
Mrii't of Sii'iunwij, )
DMr'ut nj Sii'iwii:
DOMlNIOxN CONTllOVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874,
Ehriiox of a \UmUr Ihv ihe Home of Comwonxfor llu- EUrioml ,lhlnrt of Charlevoix.
Malbaie, Hovonth day of July, 1876.
2400
I'liESENT : — Hon. A. M. Routuieh, j. a. c
No. 14,
BRASSAIiD, ET AL.,
Petitiontra ;
vs.
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Dfjendant ;
Evklence oh the. port of the Petitioners.
Stanislas Brassard, aged 05 yoar., of tho parish of St. FuU-le, farmer, being duly
sworn doth depose vnd say : I know the parties in this case. I am not related or of km to
or in the employ of .m.v of them. I am not interested in the event cf this suit. I was an
2500 elector at the elecli.-a in questu.u and voted at the be.-innhig of the election I was mdiffer.
out U-o„.m'ca) to one party or the other. When I saw a man that suited me I inclined towards
him U,ui m'adonmdt) and that man was the Defendant. At tirst I was not acciua.nted with
him but after what I heard say of lam, I perceived he was a good man and! sided with lam.
I heard it said that he was a good man to support our party, our religion. As to Mr. Trem
blay, 1 cannot say anything bad of him, but 1 lieard it said that he did not do good. I will
confess that what induced me to believe Mr. Langevin a good man to support our religion
{pnuT '« reU„ioa) was that tho whole clergy were in las favor, find for such people as wo are
not knowing much, it was encouraging to see them all in las favor.
Objected to for tho same reasons made in the deposition ol Abe! Maltais.
2510 Obiections reserved to • 'Eents.
Mr V Tremblay, cur6 of .it. Fidele. preached a sermon on elections during the said
election It did not seem to me that he shewed more horror [nwntrait pla. d'horreur) for thr
one than for the other. Every one was at liberty to act in accordance with his opinion. I
had an opinion and I was free to exercise it. I have no knowkdge of his having spoken oi
the Liberal party in church, or of tho government which Mr. Tremblay supported.
Q„e..lio,i.- Did you understand that a person could, without endangering religion, vote
as well for Mr. Tremblay as for Mr. Langevin '?
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/l;i»(i«r. — No i (lid not hd uiidorHtand. 1 uudorHtooil from tho Hjipeiininco* that it
would be bettor to givo my vote for Mr. Liiugf^vm tlmu for Mr. Tri'tablay.
2f)20 (,)((M<(OH.- -Could n pnrsDu iiccordiiiK to that sormon, without committiuK ti am, vote
for Mr. Trwubhiy ?
QuoHtion withdniwn.
Thi' pruHciit depowition being ruad to tho wituesw, U« porBistH iu it, declares it ooutainn
*he truth and cannot sign.
Taken ami sworn lifforv me in ofien court at Malhaie, Ihia Mventk diiij of Jiihj, 1870.
A. B. ROUTUIER,
.1. 0. 8.
I'UOVINCK OF QUKIJKO,
Ihtlricl 11/ Siigurnrl!/.
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SaPERIOR COUIiT.
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DOMINION CONTUOVEUTEl) KLECTIONS ACT, IHI
mction 01 a .\hmb.f lor Ihr Ihnm of (;,„u„wy< for the KkMora' hUtricl of Vharkvoix.
Malbaik, Hovouth of July, lb7(>.
Phkhbnt:— Hon. A. B. UoimuBR, J. B.C.
UUA8SAUD KT AL.,
I'elituineri ;
No. 14.
V8.
Hon. U. L. LANOEVIN,
Ih/milaiit ,
Evidence on the part of the PetUiotiem.
2540 David Dansilva, of tl.o pariHh of Malbiue, aKod 52 yoarH, farmer, beiu;^ duly sworn.
,10th depose and say :-I know the parties in this cause. I am not related or of lun to or m
the employ of any of them. I an> not lutorosted in tho event of this suit.
Objected to by the Defendant on the same grounds as in Abnl Maltais' deposition.
Objection reserved to the merits.
1 was an elector at the election in ^luestion. I did .ot vote. I did not vote tor
certain reasons, because one of my fnends of St. Fid6le. at whose place I was on the hfth
.January, and who belonged to the same party as I did. told me that after hearin, the cure s
sermon we .hould not vote for that p.rty. This friend was Stanislas Brassard iarm.r
The party to which we both previously belonged was Mr. Tremblays party. I eard mysel
9550 one of the sermons of the cur6 of St. FidMe. and it is on what Mr. Brassard told mo that I
understood that one couidn t vote („.Vn n« ,.U ,as voter) for Mr. Tren.blay without endan^-
eriu, religion (... .Un.jer pour /., r.li.lo.^. I -lid not meet Hon. David Price dunn, h
election. ' I talked of the election to my brother Joseph while the election wa,s goin, on. In,
not much. My brother did not then speak to me about a tishing ground i,dac. ,/. ,.c'.)
He spoke to me of it in this way-that Mr. Price had said that he had a hshin,, round at
Petites Isles, where my father had formerly been employed, and that 1 would have to bo
fished (,,u d..ait etre Umlue) this year. Mr. Price en,uired about me. as I had been in Ins
employ six seasons. Mr. Price having said that that fishing ground would have to be
iiid this year {.levnil are tendue), my brother told him that, as it had been in charge ot my
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2560 father, he hoped it would be t,'ivcu to him oi to mu. After the election I wrote to Mr. Price
askin- him for this place, ami he auswered that it had been giviai. My brother, when he
thus Tpoke to mo, was a partizau of the Defendant's, but I cannot say if he worked for him.
He was then in tlie employ of Mr. Piton. at the cpiarry at Cap a I'Aiglo.
Cross-Examined.
When my brother .Joseph was talking to me, as I said m my examination-iuchief,
there was no question of election. 1 was not promised any place, employment or other
advantage, either by my brother Joseph or by Hon. Mr. Price, in order to iullueu.'c my vote.
I did not vote, because I thought I would have done wrong after hearing what I before
stat'-d.
2570 The present deposition being read to the witness, he persists in the same, declares it
contains the teuth, and hath signed.
DAVID DASSILVA.
'l\,hrj, ami swon, lufmm,., in opm Court at Malhai,', tlmsecentk daij of Jnhj, 1876.
A. B. ROUTHIER,
i
T
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i
&
PROVINCE OF QUEBEC,
DMrkl of Saijumntj.
80
SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTllOVEllTED ELECTIONS VCT, 1H74.
Election of a Member Jw the Iloaso of Oommoiia for the Electoral District of Gharlevoia;.
2580 Maluaie, the 7th day of July, 187G.
Present ; — The Hon. A. B. Houthier, J. S. C.
No. 14.
BUASSARD, ET AL.,
Petitioiiers ;
VB.
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Defendant ,
Evidence on the part of Petitioners.
Francois Gagiiou, aged 17 years, carter, of the parish of Malbaie, being duly sworn
upon the Holy Evangelists, doth depose and say :—
2590 I l<"0\v the parties hi this case, I am not related or allied to, nor in the employ of,
or servant to any of them. I have uo interest in the issue in this case. I was an elector
and voted iti the election in question. At the begmuing of the election I had not pronounced
myself and I was foi' tlu' Partie Bleu.
Question.— \)'n\ you not say at the beginning of the election that yon would be for the
party who would make you earn money or employ you.
Objected to by Defendant as being a leading (luestion. Question withdrawn.
1 told nobody to which party I would l)elong later. Mr. Joseph Kane did not speak
to me about the election. As to Mr. Perrault, I met him and lie told me to go to his place ;
I went next day and he asked me to which party I belonged. I answered: You know it
2600 well ; reminding him at the same time for whom I voted at the previous (flection. This is
all which took" place that time. I spoke to Barthelomi P.ou-hard during the election
as I spoken to any other one, and did not speak about the election. I once drove Mr. Kane
la.st winter, but cannot say in what month. I once went for Jlr. .Joseph Stanislas Perraul,
at Point au Pic dunng last election. He did not pay me for this trip, I owed it to him. N(^
price was agreed upon between us.
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The Defoiulant declares having no cross-questions.
The present deposition being read to the witness, he persists therein, decliinii^' it ti;
contain the truth, and oannot sign.
Taltfii and swum be/ore me Ihui llli July, 1876, in open Court, at Malhaie.
2610 (Signed) A. B. ROUTHIER,
w^
PROVINCE OF QUEBEC,
DUtrkl of Swjuenay.
82
SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
Klertion oi a Memher for the House of Commons for the Electoral District of Charlevoix.
Malbaie, this eighth day of July, 1S76.
Present : — The Uon. A. B. Routuieb, J. S. 0.
BRASSARD, et al.,
Petitioners ;
2620 No. 14. vs.
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Defendant ;
Petitioner*' Evidence.
Frederic Otissc, 19 years old, farmer, of the Parish of Malhaie, being duly sworn upon
the Uoly Evangelists, doth depose and say :— I know the parties in this cause. I am neither
a relation, nor of kin, nor a servant, nor ni the employ of any of them. I am not inter-
ested in the issue of this cause. I was an elector at the last election, and I have voted as
such. I heard a speech delivered by the Defendant at Joseph Bouchard's, at Malbaie,
during and about the present election. He spoke in hi.s speech of the money of the (ioveru-
2630 meut I think I remember his having spoken as follows :-" You will say that you will not
secure money, your member being not a friend of the Government; but the Mimstry will be
defeated ; it will take perhaps six months— perhaps a year." It is all that I remember. I
do not remember whether he mentioned what would happen as to money after the anti-
cipated fall of the Government. When the Defendant spoke to the electors of their member
being adverse to the Government, he spoke of himself, and not of Mr. Treml)lay, his
opponent. I understood that the Defendant meant that when the Ministry would be
defeated he would secure money for us. Tliat is what I understood.
Cboss-Examined.
Qu»stion.—Y)o you swear tliat at this meeting the Defendant said that when the
2640 Ministry should be defeated he would secure money for you ?
,^-
fi
gs
Aruwer.—no did not say that ; it is what I understood.
Tho foreKomg depoHition bemg read to the witnesn. the deponent perBintn therein.
and declares that it contains the truth, and has siKued.
FREDERIC 0TI8SE.
Taken a,id mom to before me in open Court, at MMaie, thi» Sth July, 1H7G.
A. B. ROUTHIER.
J. s. c.
PItOVlNC'K OF QUKHEC, t
DUtricl q/ .SVij/MlkJl/. J
84
SUPERIOR COURT.
2650
DOMINION CONTROVEIITKI) ELECTIONS ACT, lrt74.
KtMi.m nja .Mmhrr/or the Ilmm o/Com,mm fnr tht Blectoml DUtriH of Charlevoix.
MxLBAiK, thin 8th day of July. 1876.
I'KESENT :— The Hon. A. B. Routuikr, J. H. C.
No. II-
BiiASSAUD RT AL.,
PetUionerii;
VB.
Hon. n. L. LANOEVIN,
Defeiulant.
2660
2G70
PetUiontn' EvideMf.
Joseph J5ouoh,vra, of the parish of Malbaic, blacksmith, «2 yeara old, being duly
aworn upon the Holy Evangelists, doth depose and say :-
I know the parties in tins cause. I am neither a relative, nor of k>n to, nor a servant,
uor >u theemploy ^f any of them. I am not interested in the .sue of th.s cause.
1 ,„.t.„l „t tlip election in iiuostion. I know Joseph
Sto„,.l». rcm,»H. ...|. The ., , J ^^^^ _j^^.^^ ,|__^ ^,^^,.„„,
;::':■ ;;'.'::c,:: :;:;...';:;";:;,' : ... ..-...-. u. .... ... ...» .. ». ......
of money or of loans of money.
The Defendant declares he has no cross-questions to put to the witness.
The fore.om. deposition being read to tl.o deponent, the said deponent persists
U.rein 1 decCrtlJit contan.s the truth, and that he cannot wr.e h.s name.
Tak.. :.n., .0,. >o ,.fore .e in o,en Hour,, a, MaU,aie, ,ki. Uk of Ml, 1876.
A. B. liOUTHIEU,
J. 8. U
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86
PiioviNci; oi- (^iiHUKC. ^ SUPERIOR COURT
DMrkl n/ Snyufmin.
I
rilE DOMIV:i N CONTROVKUTEI) ELECTION?* ACT, 1874.
ISh>(ii<ii nfn inmnlfr hr ihr HiuM of C'lmmiw (,ir Uie Klei'U>r<%l DlMrirt „f ClutrletuiLr.
2QJJQ Mai.uaii, thib uiglitli ilay of .Iiilv, 1H70.
pKEMENt:- -TiiK Hon. A U. UoiriiitH, i. •»• p-
No. 14.
UUAaSAllD KT Ai..,
Pelili'iiiirs .
AND
UuN. U. L. LANdEVIN,
Del'i'iuluH
I'rtitityiwn' Hmlvnce.
Lf au.hu Cote, of the pan- a of 8to. Ah'iiba, 37 years old, fariuov, Wa
2090 the Holy Evangelists, doth d.■l)o^ «i(l say:
1 know tlio parties ni llii'* » uise. I inu not a relative nor of Uiii
in the employ of any of tliein. 1 » i not interostod ha the issue of tin-
I \vii> iin elector at the oloc^.u in question and i voted. I knou
Perrault, Ivsquire, an.lJoseph Uerg.ini, the witne.s just heard before n
at my place on an evenin- durin- the last election. Proviuasly IJorKem
wiU not vote this year, I am owed some money for u trip which I have ...
lemcntH and for dirterent otlu'r trips wiiieli 1 liavo made durin- the other ■■
1 will have nothin- to do with it. We ,1 spoke to Mr. Perr^uilt that ni«lii
whether IJergeron spoke to him.
27(10 There was a meethig at my place „n the occasio.i of which 1 have al.ov.3 spoken, in the
interest of the Defendant. Mr. PerrauK spoke n. favor of the Defendant. M, Perrault
arrived at my place with.uit any one kn- .,ng anythin,' about it. 1 went and tol ■ .p e o
come if they Wished to hear a strange •: .tleman who would ad.kess them It was at Mr.^
Perraulfs request that I convened the eh tors. I did not received a cent lor the calling o
' dul\ Hwoni upon
'or a servant nor
!o-"cpli Stanislas
''III V l)oth met
, told me : I
to the l'',l)ou-
in ; this year
cannot say
ither then nor since. 1 have had nothing pro
v-ersation between tli- said Mr. P.^n-aiilt and
Cleophas Tremhlav. I was in the kitchen ud Messieurs Perrault and C16oplias Tremblay
were in a small adjoining room. I did not liear all that was said, and I might, not have
the meeting nor for the use of the house,
mised to me suico that.
On that same eviiiiing I hear
86
2710 understood correctly ; but 1 niulerstood that Mr. Porrault said to Mr. Tromblay : " Wu will
settle that when you come down ;" which meant when you come to ;\[albaic. Cliophati
Tromblay has not told me, neither on that day nor before, that ho was owed anything for the
previous election, and I do not know whothor anything was duo him. The above is all that
I know of the above conversation. It is to my knowledge that CU'ophas Tremblay wont down
to Malbaio a few days later. I do not know why ho went down. I saw Cleophas Tremblay
this morning in the village of Mulbaie. Ue told me that he had been subpoened last night
to appear as a witness this mornmg.
Crobs-Examined.
When I heard Mr. Perrault say to Cltophas Tremblay " We will settle that when you
2720 come down," I do not know what was referred to, and I did not understand what was
referred to unless it referred to money, but I do not know what for.
The foregoing deposition behig read to the deponent the said deponent persists therein,
declares that it contains the truth, and he has signed.
L^ANDRE COTE
Taken and sworn liefore me in open Court, lids 8th July, 1876.
(Signed) A. B. ROUTHIEll,
J. 8. C.
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2730
87
FIIOVINCE OF QUEBECl SUPERIOR COURT.
Diatrkt of Saguenay . I
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1H74.
Klcvdon of 'I Ur.mhi'r lOr tlif lloim' of Vommo>u<, for the ElMonil DhtrH of Charln-oh:.
Malbaik, the Eighth day of July, 1876.
Present:— The Hon. A. B. Roiituier, .J. S. C.
No. 14.
BRASSARD, et al.,
Petitioners ;
vs.
The Hon. U. L. LANGEVIN,
Defendant ;
Petitioners' Evidence.
2740 Joseph Bergeron, aged 39, farmer, of the par.sh of St. Ag„6s,'boing duly *worn upon
the Holy Evaugelists, doth depose aud say :
I kuow the parties m this case. I am not related or allied to, nor m ■ . employ of.
or servant to any of them. 1 am not mterested hi the event of this suit I was an
ee r and voted at the election in question. I Unow Mr. Joseph Stanislas Perra It,
ate of Malbaie. The said Mr. I'errault did not speaU to me of the election, either b i e
or durh..- said election. I spoke to h.m in this way, upon a report concernmg a pa.t el ction.
m^; Uie election between Mr. Tremblay and Mr. Chauv...u lu 1H7. as .d him^ pay
uie three dollars due me for having driven people on nonuiiat.on dav, at Mi. U.auvuu^
21. as above stated, and also what was due me .,r driving peo^e on ^'^^^^^^^^
2750 election of Mr. Chauveau-s. 1 don't know the price paid tor that day. Hi, ans^aul h.
Old not pay me this, that h... had no right to do so. and he did not give me^. cent. H
. nothm.'.tall He promised me nothing also, and I swe.r he led me to expect
^^i:^rX-"tm slid election, nor anything else. I never owed him anythiiig.
Tt:^'Z^^^ li no one durmg tins election. I was not paid what was due me lor the
election of 1H74, and 1 was not promised payment.
I saw this morning the said Mr. Perrault and he t !d me that, if I desired to go I
,, ^"'""'.".n:,;,,, pen-, had nut been paid to me. Cloophas Tremblay who, .t
::^:^:::jZ:::f:^^:^^^ ^^ -nn., came at the same time to Mr, Perraulfs : li.e
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latWr .spoki; to liiiu privali'ly. 1 do uot kuow what ho sniil to hiiu ; but an he came out with
2760 ijiuj oiiophuH Tremblay wont away.
Cross-Examiked.
1 went this moruing to Mr. Porrault's to get uewH about a caso m which I am
plaintiff. Mr. Perrault is my attorney. I did uot consult Lira about my travelling
expenses. He asked me if 1 was a witness, if my travoUmi,' expenses had been offered to me,
and upon my negative answer, he told me I could go. I dout know if it was advice he was
givi)"5 mo, but I was not asking him.
Rk-£.:amined.
The suit of which [ spoke a moment ago, began after the election.
The present deposition being read to the witness he presists therein, stating it
2770 contains the truth and has signed.
.JOSEPH BERGERON,
Sworn before me in open Court, al Malhaic, thin Sth July, 1876.
A. B, ROUTHIER,
J. s. c.
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89
PROVINCE OF QUEBEC, I SUPERIOR COURT.
Dintrirt of Siitjueniiy. ]
DOMINION CONTllOVEllTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
Kleclin,, of „ Mmhn for Ihe IIohm- of Commons for the Elerlon,! IH^triel of Charlevoix.
Malbaik, the oiglith clay of July, 1876.
27^0
Prment:— Tub Hon. A. 13. Rovthikr, J. S. C.
No. 14.
BRASSARD ET AL.,
Petitioners ;
V8.
Hon. H. L. LANC^.VIN,
Defendant ;
Pililioners' Evidmce.
Grogoiro .Jean, aged G7 years, farmer, of the parish of Malba.e, beh.,- .Uily sworn
upon the Holy Evangelists, dot'i depose and say :
I know the parties n. this case. I am not related or aUied to nor in the employ of or
2790 servant to any of .them. I have no interest in the event in tins suit.
The week before the election I got Hour from Mrs. Nairn's mill, m this parish. I
paid it with my wages due for w.rk I had done at the hour mill last fall, and I was through
o Christmas L. It was Mr. Joseph Kane, Notary of Malhaie and agent tor he^a^Xh.
Nairn who engaged me to work at the mill. I came and settled the accoun at Mr. Kane s,
ari'e ve ne a hon, and I got some gram and got it ground. The /,o« was for four
W h ^ ofwheat at si. shihings. When my account was settled with Mr. Kane that amoun
al^t was remaining due ine on the 2.1th. Mr. Kane did not offer me a ^ ^^ ^
ction No person, either, offered me sixteen dollars. I dul not say before Elie Maltai.
and eph Brassard that Mr. Kane had offered mo sixteen dollars during the election^
9800 V en 1 settled the account with Mr. Kane, as above mentioned, he spoke to me abou the
en. lie asked me on what side I was. I answered I was on the same side as usu 1-
hatl was nou.,e, and did not change. He made the remark to me that Mr Tremb ay
was no! he one to be foUowed-that he tried to put down religion. I answered hnn on tin.
;:,!:'; if ,. made Mr. Langevm no., from the feet to the ears 1 ^^n^^^;;^^^^
him, for he was not from the county. This is all that took place between u.. H., answered
f
90
that this eould injure im, and 1 annworod that I trannactod biiHiuo8» with the lUwis and tho
h'o>,gc8 alike, aud that this was not troublin« mo. I thought that by the words " this eotild
injure you" he meant that this could have soraothinR to do with roRard to my work from
Mrs. Nairn, but it did not trouble mu, because I liad the SeiyLouresso ou my side, and
2810 foH that Mr. Kane could do nothing against mo.
The Defendant declares to iiave no cross-ciuostions to put to the witness.
Tho present deposition being road to the witness, he persists therein, declaring it to
contain tho truth, and cannot sign.
Takni and smm hefore mu. ,ii Valbaie, in oi>m ' ■oio-t, ihh Sih of July, 7876.
A. B. ROUTHIER,
.T. S. C.
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Ik
91
SUPER! R COrRT.
nOMINTHN CONTHOVKUTiD ELEUi A(T
I'HOVINCK OF (^I'Knr.c
IHttriet q/' Sayufniiy.
,4
■J820 /.,■/ ri: „ „l „ Mnnl.n U;- th. II,,,-,. ../ (\,m,„o,i for ih,' EhHond l),Mr,r .,t <'hailoiVi.
Mai.hmk, tlii^ rr^'lilli cl.iy nC July, 1H7II.
I'RKSKNl : -Till. IliiN, A. 15. ItolTillKli, .1. H. (':
\(). II.
BUASSAUl) in ai,.,
Pctiliiiin'iK
V9.
Hon. H. L. LANGL^VIN,
Oifi'llildiil.
EvukiWi' on llic r<irl of P>'tifnii,'rH.
),an Ilarvoy >vh:\ lit v.ars, furiuor, ot the parish of Malt.aio, boin^ duly swoni upo,.
28n0 „u. Holy Evai.,.li:tH, a,.th a>,.o.- a,,,! say : I know th. pavtios in this cas.. I an. not r.^
,,,..1 nor aliiea to. nov in Iho employ of, nor a servant to any of th.u.. 1 am not mtereBte.l
in tlio cvont in this suit.
I was an oloetor and voted at tl... rWu.n m .,u-tnH.. I was presonl at a im^.tin^
I,..,., ,,v „u. DeiVuaant at Joseph nouchar.l's, at Malhaie ,luri„, said election. Ihe I)e on.
' ,lant liieve made a speech respecting the election. . heard hnn state l. did no, pron^.se hen,
1 r... , vea- perhaps he added, it mi.'ht tnlv over sii nimtl... perhap. ou.y three
::;;i u::iui.;«:.-'" ,,.,...«,.,.,.,,„.,„.„..,. ,.„.....,, ,.,
them any money befor.. th.- (lovernm..nl was overthrown.
CltOSS-ExAMINKI).
2840 Q.u.no..-l^ U not true that IVfendant .polcc of money obtained from the Fcdev:,!
(lovernmcnt for pubhc works ?
,l„,,,,,.__When I arrived the meotin;^ had be„in, and I liear.l nothing about thi.
O„n,ion.-U it not true tliat the Defendant then stated that, as he -.va.s o,.posed to th.
Government, the county should not expect to obtain money from that Government •
Amirtr. — i did not remark this.
92
Quei<tion.-~V» yM ^wi.ir tin [Jofuuiliiiit tlwii proiuiHwl uioiioy wUcii th.> (Idvorumont
would lit' (ivMtlirowti, or if hr Hiiuply »»W the county enuld tlipti h<'t moupy ?
A,u,Hn.~l uiulurHtiMxl thiit wli.ii tlir (}..v. iniu.'iit would 1j.' "vrrtlirown it woul.l liiiv.'
iiioney,
2800 xhf prtisuiit ilopoaitiou buiug road to tlif wituenH Iip persistn therein. .leclftriuB it to
contniii tlu' truth, luul hiiM sifpjed.
JEAN IIARVRY
Tiihi, owl ill (11,1 l„ hr/oir iM in ii/ii'ii Court lliii Hlh Jiilij. 1876. at Millhaie.
A, n, ROUTITFER.
J. B. C.
m«a«amSCiasw»BBWS?at*»''Sat:^3ffiTT-,
93
,u„v.NTK OF QUKiua;, . SUPERIOR COURT.
Dhh-i'-l of SiiJUiiiii!/. I -
DOMINION OONTROVBRTJil) ELECTIONS ^GT, 1871.
■ EkcUuu uj a Mruib-r /or thr House ol
.,,,^.l.rtl,,Elr.:iou.U).inctofC}uule.oi..
2S60
No. U.
M.u.uAiK,theBthaayof.Jaly, 1870.
PKKs.Nr:-T.ii^ Hon. A. 15. Uoutbier, J. S. C.
BRASSAIU), KT .u.,
Peiiiwti'n ,
vs.
T.K UoN. II. L. LANGEVIN,
Emdeme on the part of Mithners.
, „ea50v.ars.ftmno...fther-shofSt. Man.uio,bo^n.auly
Thomas (hiKUon, aged oO >L,Uh ^
fl„. Udlv EvauKolist. ^loUi il^'o^^ ''"'^ ""'> '
^^^■"'■""^ . . ,.,....„ 1 am not .vlatea o. alU.1 to, uo. .u the
OS70 1 1<">'^^ ^'"^ l"^''*'"' "' " ■ > int.ivst m tho <-vc:nt of this suit. 1 Nsa.
^^' employ ol, o. ..want to any ol thorn. I '---/"^ ":;;,„.„ ., . .p.^h ^loUv n.l hy
7^L. an.l vot.l at the ^f-'^r;J':'ZjZL^. ph.e. at Ma,ha,e. The
,Ue Deleudaot aunn,' the sa„l ele turn, ' J^ U, saul ho couUl not p.-ouu.e any
„,.^.„,,„, ,, Uas speech, spoke oi ^^''^ J;^^ ^ ; ^.U. a veav, perhaps only s. mouths,
— :;:.r::;;itt:::;:: :^^
Cross-I'^xaminkd.
2880 Ti,. uo.....». -ri" «' t:;;:;:i:;ri'i« '"S "'"» ^:' "H:;t .t: .:;;:' "
„r ,„»„..v bj f«.vl« »™l'"« "" "" " ' • ,. , .. ,„„,„,, „„„.„,,,1 l,y sir,
„ , .-,. i. - '»■ """ ""■ '^'■'■"■"'"' ''""'
.,„„,.^l U„ not ,.,.„•„,.« .. . , „, .„„
„.„„„„.-.. .t -'." >';■ -^^-^^t ,. ..''I". «"-■■-"' ■'
^
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III
04
.(„s„«,-. — Yos. Hii Miiid this Govi'niuiLiit liiul to hv ovLTtluDWU to obtain moiu-y. 1
2800 recolU'ctwl thusG words hcitlor tluui the rust ol Ihi spucch, because we always like to earn
nioni'y. I 4'oke of wliat I just state.] willi the oth.T witnesses and with Mr. P. A.
Ti.eniblay tliis ntormii-. I think Pepni fhi-uoii. l-umei-, .,i Malbftie. was present at that
lueetiuf,', but 1 ain not sure.
Rk-I'^xamined.
Tins morniii-, when Mr. "remblay spoke to me, he uskeil me if 1 wa-, at the meeting
held at Joseph UouelumVs, and I answered him what I knew ; this is all that took place
between us. I do believe that when the Defendant spoke of publie improvements and of
roads, he spoke of wharfs and liKhthousos, but 1 am not sure.
The i)resont deposition hem- read to the witness, he persists therein, stating it
2900 i;i->ntains the truth, and cannot sign.
Taken ami awor)i hefoi-K mc, at Maihaie, in oj,rn Court, thU m of Jul//, 1S7C..
A. B. ROUTHIER,
.1. 8. O.
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95
PROVINCE OF QUEBEC, \ SUPERIOR COURT.
Vlstrkt oj SuyueiMij. )
THE DOMINION CONTROVl'.llTKD ELECTIONS .VCT, 1874.
/■:i,ri;on of a M;„hn- for thr Horn, of Gonun.a. for the EU'Cond Dhiri.U of ChavkvoU.
Malbaie. the 7th day uf Aui,'ust, 187G.
41
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Present
NT :— The Hon. A. B. Routhier, J. S. C.
2910
No. 14.
BRASSARD kt al.,
Petitioners;
vs.
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Defendant.
Petitioners Evidence.
' Audr. Can., of the pansh of Malba.c, 77 year. old. farmer, beh.g duly sworn upon
the Holy Evangelists, doth depose and say :-
I know the parties .n tins cans.. 1 am neither related nor allied to. nor servant, nor
,, the 'ioy of, Ly of them. I am not n.erested in the .sue of tins cause.
2920 I .as an elector at the eleeUon in ^^-mn, and .>te. I .mw .. Hm. Dav^
Pnce, Senator. He came to my f -;^- ^ ^f i:.. "me he was on.« this year
the election; but he spoke to me about sahnu hh ehar.e that fishery, I
to set a net at Tadoussac. to catch -^-;^^^; ^ ;ti; ^^^^'^ ^^ ,,„,,p„, ^.....a : It you
told him, ^>7V TJrim/^r -^^^^^^ to me, but I understood
,,, ,villn„ to be for me, I U hue J . 1 ^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^ ^,^^, j
t,,t he wanted me to be w. h Inm ^^^^^^^l^." but it was about twelve days before,
don't recollect exactly how long it was b fou t vot n ^^^_^^ ^^^
O.Un.toccasionM.Pn.was«..y^-^^^^^^ "' ^ ^f ^
lost his eye-sight. ^ '^^^ ""^^ '° ^^^ ^.j^,^, ^ ,,,, hi^, doing, I inferred that he was
2930 went from one place to anothe ^^^^^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^ ^_^^.. ^^ ^^^^^^ ,,^
working for tie e le t.on, but k nv ^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^ .^.^ ^^ .^ ^
,,rking for the Defendant. ^^^^ " ^ . ^^ ^j,^. ^,,,„t on, I also understood that it
:;i;:rrr^=" - " -- .ectionbe^re me withtHe above-men.
tioned Louis Trcmblay.
m !
ii
96
w. >.. i>... t„ia ,.. ..u , lu..,. ..,.-. ....V, , .>...a hi. : ;i;Ytr:ot
wiUiuK to be for luui, my intention 1h in- to v.-tc foi Mi. l.ou.uaj ,
Cross- KxAMiNiJ).
1 » 1 ni- \t till' (listiuiCf you lU'o from me, I
2940 The witness .loclaros that ti. . --^-t d.^ A tW. t^ J ^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^
lioar well, Imt when th. party spiakmy to m. .. a httk lai,
the oclii),
. 1 11,1 n„. iliove-ineutionnd conversation with
mcrchaut. who was dnsm- Mi. Inti. ml
the room.
Mr rrico had then come for the first tune to my place. As already stated, he had
eome tot Ji^i^tmhla, Louis Tremhlay is one of Mr. Prices old servants.
Mr. Vnce did not try to canvass me; he only .po.e to m. of the ^- J^^
2950 Mr. Price who commenced to speaU of the ^f ^ ^/was i:^: d^^unot recoUect the
elections. I did not pay attention as^to what ^'f^^^^^^; ,^^, ,,,,a„, ..cording, to
month. I have always been for Mr. Tremblay. and voted a 1 a ^^ _^ ^^^^ ^
my conviction. Mr. Price did not speak to me about he 1 ' " , ^J,^^ „, ,,.,,,
understood that what he told uie was about the election,
he had told me, and attached no impoitance to it.
1 i *i wit.H.ss he persists therein, and declares
The fore.'oiiig deposition being read to the witness, pel
it contains the truth ; and he cannot sign his name.
Tal>e„ and sworn to hi'fore ,ne in o^tn C
Co„ri, at ilalbaie, this 1th An;iu.< 187(5.
(,Si(jned,)
2960
A. B. ROUTHIER,
,r. s. c.
■ Wl
#f
1)7
I'ROVINCE OF QrEMKCl SUPERIOR COURT
liiMfiil ni' Stiijumai/. I
DOMINION (i)NTUovi:i;ri;i) kllctions act. ihti.
ElMiiui .,f,i .]f,'ml'n- for ihr limine nlCnmwoim for Ih^: EI''rtor,il Di^lrirl of CluirleroLr.
Mai.iiaik, this 7tli 4iiy of An;,'ii:.t. IH7fl.
PitESENT : TiiK Hhn. a. r.. I'unriiiKH, J. S. C.
2970 N'"' 1^
BltASSAlU) KT Ai.„
I'rlitinncm.
vs.
Hon. H. L. LANCIKVIN.
UifiildinU.
Pelili'Dirrs' F.riileiice.
Tlioiims TrciuMiiv. 15 yciirn okl, of tl.o Piii-isli of St. Fi.ltlo, fimuoi'. l.wn- duly swani
„,.,... the Holy KvunK.'H^ls, doth dv^o.. ,uul suy : -I know the parties iu thn cause. 1 am
uot .vhited nor alhed t... hor servant, unr in the employ ..f any ..f them. 1 luive no
inUTest h. the issue of thi. cause. I uas an elector at the election in ^luestiou, and have
■ voted as such. ] know Denis Clautiner, of St. Fidele. merchant, lie took part in the saul
election He never told nu^ f..r Nvhoni he wa. w .rkii,-, l.ut I knew it was for the Uctendant.
2980 Two or three davs I.ef.re the v-lin,;, I found mysett mdehted to Mr. I'riee to the am-mot ot
lane hundred and twenty dollar., throu.d. a deed of transtVr. I l>cgau to ask .Mr. Pnce to
.ive me t!>e advantage of payiu,' part thereof in ,'oods. Mr. I'ru-e answered that he w.und
:peak about U with Mr. Deni- dauthiev. 1 >ny-lf spoke .Uh Mr. Denis Oaulhu.r ahout d
When he spoke to me about it it was ai.out the time of the voting'. I told hiiu 1 th,n.,d.t 1
wo.ild vote iieither for one nor the other, lie answered iue that I should vote l>y all means,
a,id that 1 was indepcideiit ciiough to do that. 1 r.pUed that as a ruh. I was .ndependei.t,
but that I was iiot so at the prcso.it .uo.m.nt, haviu, bought a lar.u. and hein.r oldij-ed to
borrow the above-iueutioued a.nount t„ pay .t. The deed of transfer above .iieuhnu .1 had
b.en uiadc ou accou.d of the purchase ..f said fav.u. lie thereupon told ni. tha d I were
OC).,0 obliged to borrow .nouey, and ,f Mr. foUard dechned to lend .ue any, oth.rs woi. d U..d me
" some lie added that Mr. i'rice had told him to take ,ny ^'oods nu account ol what I owed
him, 'and that he was at H-erty i,ot to take then., Tha. 1. ..Uut all that pa.sed hetwven u.
We spoke longer than that, Init it meant .he same thin,, aiid 1 understood it .neant that t 1
would „„t vote for tbe Defendant he woidd ..ot lake ,uy goods. There was ,iot a great ditle,-
,,., , „..„ .,>vi„.. in goods or i.i .uoiiey, for one ahiiost always h..ds to sell h.s goods;
08
,H'vmtl,rU-HM, I fnun.l it iimre .ulv,intM-,.ou« to ]m in i;."»Ih Kiwlit .I.ivh, I tl.iuk. l"^f...v lUv
.l«..ti.m, 1 s,K,ko uouut it 1. .1.. II.V. Mr, (•iu,,M:M..l,'ur6 of St. Hi,n6,.n. I opouecl the
cM>llV<i|yiltioil nil lUt> (tulijt'i^t. ^
Qiu-nlMii. I'U'iuio Htiitf ttlmt wiiH Miiil cm liotli si.lt*.
HOUU ()l.,.-t,..l .., l.s .Iw |)..i;m.|:n„, 1..-:m,... ll,. ..usw-r ,. ,Mh ... p^.^.• - IM-i^at- ,„„v.>miti.n,
with tl,.. It.'v Mr. Cin.) .M.rs ai.i 'liU il." ..iinmof l,li.< wiuusH in iu.lu.l.Ml >u the lull ot jxir-
,u.ul,.r« ,ts iMvnw .,.vu ti,n.a,-t,..a hv D^uin (l,.utl,i..r, of St, Ki,|,.l.. 1 l.^ ■ f>'V •!- r^aHonM
iiieiitioinMl ill tlic t'viiliMifi* of AIk'I .Maltain.
(Jiifsticiii williilriiwii.
„,..^\>„. -On ti»Mil,ov..,.u.utio,i.,l o.ra»iu.i dul tli. K-v. Mr. <'ii..l M;.r. t,.!l yoi. ..r
U..ul .oil U. ti.ul.rHtau.l that you won- l.ouii.l to vote for on. ou.uli.lute rath.r than tor tho oth-r.
Ohjirtivl to l.y the l».'f."iUanl for the ;il,oM--mrnriuli.Ml ivanoun.
()l,j,.ftion .iiHiui«siMl uH to th.' liist ^'.oUiMi, and irMfVcl aH to th.' .s.ron.l.
Ansu-er.^ He nut onlv io.l us to unaerstan.l it, l.ut ii. a.lMally tohl m- that on. ..houhl
301U not voto for Mr. TnnnUay, liecan.. he ha,t ,a„,.us,.a to 1. in,h,,.naw,t, an-l had not kept h.s
woitl.
1 ,„i,laconven«monahont the ..leclioii with the Rev. Mr. Tr.uihh.y. Cur^ of St. Ki^iilo.
two days Ijefore the voting.
(^«,-.sf/o».-- rieane report tiie sai.l conversation.
( ll.jeete.l to for the same reasons as tlios« eoi.eeniin- tlie ( 'ure CincpMars.
Ohjei'lioii maintaineii.
Tlie Petitioners take exception to the .lecision of the Coort, a.ul reserve to themselves
the right of havin- it revised l.y the Sui.reme < 'otirt.
The IVtitioneis aeclure that the (our, not allowing thetn to prove l,y tie- witnesH
3(,20 threats minle to him hy the Kev. Mr. Tremhh, . aee.ine to further exatain. 1 nialer theahove
""'" The Defenaautaeclares that the witness cannot testify to threats ina.le to him hy the
Uev MTi na,lav, heeauso the name of the witm.s is not in tho hiU of paHieulars, ami
•• f;::.!! tlll-etuiiers have not applied to the Court ..r the examination ol the .itness upon
that fact.
Cross- Kx AM I NED.
„ I,,. „,. „l,„v„.„,,m™«l co„v,,,„.». l.l«-e.. I>-» «»"""•• »■"! " ""* l''''"' "'
Rcfoir> lliH :iIk)vo 'iinvurNatlnn f wiui dttorminril nut to voU', Aiid I intainW to borrow
mutiny of Mr. Collard if I uomiwi it.
Tlie forcyiiinj! ilcpoHitinii lii'in^; rcml tii lln villi •.)*, Im [» iii»la ''niein, tiiil (li)ii»re-( tijai
it contaiiiR tho truth, aud tliiit L« raunot 8tgu Iuh itniui;.
fahcn .1)1./ iiraiii /y,/'i,i-. mi' in uptu I'nurt nl MiMait, ihU 1th 'Itij ■;/ .biiinit, lM7(i.
A, B ROUTHIKii,
J. H. C.
100
3040 PllOVlNCE OF QUKBEO, t SUPERIOR COURT.
Dittrict of Saijuenay. I _
THE DOMINION GONTllOVERTED ELECTIONS ACT. 1B74.
KiM.on of'. Memierfor ,hc llou.e ofCommo..., for the Electoral DiMrir, of CharleroU.
Malbaie, this 7th day of August, 1876.
Present:— Hon. A. B. Routhiub, J. S. C.
0. BRASSARD, et al.,
Petitioners ;
No. 14.
vs.
3050
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Defendant,
Petitioners' Evidence.
R6ale ABseUn, of the parish of St. HUanou, a,cd 35 years, farmer, bemg duly sworn
upon the Holy Evangelists, doth depose and say:-
I know the parties m th. cause, I am neither related, nor allied to nor servant, nor
in the employ of any of them. I am not interested m 4he issue of this su.t.
I was an elector at the election m question and I voted. I am church-warden, in
3060 r^°l>l« «^"^l^^ ^° °' "^'.'M afterwards said to us that it was a mortal sin to vote for the
rZ:, »» cl.™av. p„t,, „a .-» „d .„c .U.t of lUe L.U.„. ,„t,-.
Obiecfd .0 by .be D*.a„t, .. u. U.0 c,a.,,c. of AW M.l..... Obi»t„„ ».,vc.l
to the merits.
r
101
St
Si
QOTO Ho tola >h: "at the hour of dcatli, ou which bLIo will you like to be, with \ietov
EnuBainiel and Ganbakli, or with the Pope au.l the Church," " you have among you .ome
(iavhaiaiaus who style themselves CatholicH aod, like Victor Emmanuel and Cavibaldi,
);)er:iecute their cure.
He sai<l that we should follow our superiors, and that in case they would give us l.a.l
advice, they alone would be responsible therefor. lie said that the Liber=ds ^vere^anda
breeders (.auMmj) and that there were some in the parish, and he added ; ■ N\oe
those through whom the scandal comes."
To the best of mv knowledge, that sermon created a strong impression in the parish
and as far as I can s'ee, turned one third of the votes in favor of the Defendant. Jules
90S0 Tn.nblay, who is an elector, told me himself tliat the said sermon had changed his opinion,
audi have heard the names of many others mentioned as liavmg changed their opinions,
but I cannot recollect their names.
1 ,,„, , ,„.iv.u. eonvevsation with the s.id Mr. I.mglais about the election, on the eye
of New Year's d.v. H.ing invited by bis b.other-in-law Mr. Belanger, r went to the eures.
He asked me if I would side with bi.n in ral.i,ur matters, and even in electioiis. TZnM
Uiat I could not pronuse th:.,. I.- i-pi-'l ^hat if 1 could not promise t^.at to bnn, be
not keep the l''al,n,nr ac.ouuts, and h. would sc* .u. to who sliouhl aecompauv b.u du n,
the paste,.! visit. That visit is the one wbieb the cur6 makes every year in tb« i-- '•;;-;;;
New Year's day, The custo.a is fur the priest to make it in the couipany of the chuull-^^aukn
3090 in eliarge.
T.0 or three days or .. afler, when be rendered his accounts, ho returned --^^^^^^';^
accordin.. to what he bad la-eviouslv said, .and in doing so told mo it wa.s because I d,d no
r rLsi.lewitbbhe;venin..!eaioa Iters, 1 have returned the books to bnn s.n
:^aon, because 1 found that tbe pressa-e of my business was too stnmg to allow ...
,.,.,... ...oing Su,.ki. be -^^^^^^
;i:::::r ;:::•:::::;;;:: u:;:;-Ld by ma..y perso.. that . . ...u ... t.
..Uurcb because tbe eu,-.^ was goi,.g too i^i.-, b.s.dted tb-.a and they could not l,e,n >t.
The CU.-0 did not n.ake , be pastoral visit with uie, but with Francois Tven.May, the
100 second cbuicb-warden. .
Ckoss-E.\aminku.
I worked a little for Mr, Tremblay du.-ing the elecio,.. My memo.y .,.a> iail n.e now
.„„, u.cn, I lH..ssess a g..od n.emory, but it nuiy somet..,.es fail me.
The other two cburcb-wardens. Francis T«,nib,ay a,ul C.,illau.„e BoueWird wei. with
on tbatda\ tlie p.isioiai iri,L v ,..,,. , • , ,1,.. ,.,„„li|,.' of t a) iiastoral letter
that he preached, i heard the word Liberalism during the ...adn.^ ol 1
(miinJciiii'i^t.)
,...-0,..-lB -t not true that the oui. then said that Catholic Liberalism was
3110 condemned!
102
A„si,er ---H." explainml to us that there wih no clistiuctiou to .haw betw.-m u Lil.eral in
,.„Htic.H an,l a LiUontl in religion, that tl.n on., would not «o without th., oth.-r. I «wear that
t\w cmv «a.l iu his s«"uon that it was a mortal sin to vote foe the Lil.enil party.
<.>,«v,«(V»(.— rieaso give the expression use.i l.y the wri on those owasional
.l.«,rc..--Ue used those very words. Ue said that those who persecute the pnests.
the bishops and the l>opo were (iaribaldians. I swear that the eure said at Ins sermon tl at
the Liberals are scandal breeders, crooked nuuded men (,/r,v s,;uM.. t ,1.. titcs crochet.)
lie used tho.se very words. I swear that the cure said in his sernu.u that to vote for the
Liberal party was to he against the pr.ests. the bishops and the Pope Inn^elf. lie u.^d « o^
3120 v<.y words. The cure did not pronounce the names of Mr. Lan,,evn> or Mr. 1 rend,la> f.om
the pulpit.
^Yhen 1 said that the sermon of th.> cure changed ot.o third of the votes in the
parish of St. Uilar.ou. 1 based .ny eaiculattons t.pon what I had seen before ^r. Langevm
a ne h.to the pansh, when nearly every one seemed to be for Mr. Tremblay bomo da,.
L Mr. Lan^vins speech, the electors were in the sa.ne dispos.t.on : . ts ^'^ ---
the cure wh.ch tuade ali the changes. I have been enabled to aseertam all what I ha c sa
about the disposition of the pari„h and the changes in the voters- mmds, by hearmg >aM
and speaking of it at the clnirch door.
1 cannot sav what the result of the voting was at the election before the last I mean
.1 qn the election hetweJn Messrs. Ciautbier and Chnon. A portion of the electors who had sup-
■^^^^ tt^ M Gauthier, but not all, voted tor the Defcuda.it. The reason given to me by ..ules
Cliv ;^^i he changed Ins opnuon was that the cur. had phualy stated that there was no
ii^l^^LnaLtleral u, polities 1 a Catholic Liberal He told ine that at m
> M. the election He is a farmer and the sou of Euelier Tremblay. 1 was alone s ith
. r::": t ;'«. -the eve of .w year, day when we had the conversation above
related.
1 WIS on .'o<,d term, with the eure and had always been so until New Y.arV. day (ISTli)
, r,r r U I rm in th<. y.6nVu<- matters. It was at a meeting of the elnuch-wardeiis
'^'' !:Xr! Tremldly were then present . those are about the only m.iaes 1 can reeoUect.
, , , ,.„iwttha \ntoine I'.ouehard m.l Pierre Treudday, of St. 11 il.riou, fanners,
_. ,!.:: ::;;r c— ion l ..l wUh the .n. on the eve of .eW Year's day, but they
were present at the parsonage, Where we spoke of ral,n,,.r matters.
(^,..„.,.- is it not true that the eure did no. wish to make his pastoral ^ isit w,th you
on , ccount of cenaiti diliieulties about J-ul,n,,ue matters i
„„„,,_.Hc dechned stepping into my sleigh and making the visit with me beeau.. 1
• with him about l-ah,i.,ue matters and even about the elections. Aiseiic
differed m opinion with lam ai,out, ' ^ y ,^ j ,,.^«
.eo ^-sr -:;::: i::;ttr :;:i:.:^..™ » - - .^.
103
Tlioac. two rooms arc :>,l|.c»ut. lu one auothei- au,l as w.U a.-, 1 ..lu ,o.u>n.l,er .1>. duor w,..
, losud and a lof- wall dividoR tl.e two roo.us, I had no „uanvl will, the cure -u the thirty-h.s.
n{ Decombei, but Bmco w. ha.. rx.'hanK.-d piotty harsh word. , h.| .very nue hav,. Imh opin..,.,
I am aRoman Catholir. and the cure's s..r„um nrnde i,o .mpressiou >,pnu ,ne. .nd I l.n-
iilwayH been for Mr. Trcmblay.
The foregoing deposition b.nn^ rr.ui t„ the ^vitiiess, he per.sints therein, de, larinj,- that ..
contains the truth, and he signed.
H. ASSFJ.IN.
3160
,.,.,„ a,.l .n>rr to '.for. nu- ,.n l^.n-t, at MaU.nir, //„. 7th of A„,,us>. 1870.
CHS DTTHElUiEK,
I', S. ('.. rt. II.
104
K,»VlNTK01MiUEBEC,| SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
..,.0. ./• . 3/....- /.-• >!>•■■ "0... of Co 0,. ,0. n.. ElrH„n., /..-.,. ../ r,,r, u.
Malua.k, the Bovcuth .lay "f August. 1H7(1.
I'KKSKNT :-TuE Hon. a. 1!. lUnnuEH. J. S. C.
BKASSAUi> KT \L.,
Petitionen ;
:U70 No. 14.
Hon. H. L. LANCIEVIN,
Defendant.
Eddeuve on !!,>■ i^arl of Pelilioners.
ud.rost in the i.sue of tins ca.c. 1 ... ^ /^ ^ ,^^, ^„,j,y ,,,,,o the vot.ng, on the
I ,,,, ,,esont at a senuou, vreachoa, ^'^^^^"^^ ^J,,,_ «,,,, Cure of said
3i«^-:jthe ^----/r^^-t^^^^ --' ":;;■ ^^"
know he condeuaied Liberah.m. He ^'"^ - ,^i j2,.,„j,,, „.ul Nve vvdl eome
p.ofc.. L.bor.hsm n. our day.-they are - ^ " ^.^ .eeording to nu. He s.u.keof the
to the same end.' Th. .s the sum.mog '^1> l^^ "^^^^^ ,^,,„^,,,, ,,„,„., of Libev.h.u.
CoudothiereCommunistsmltaly whoconst^ut^th. mo ^ ^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^^^ ^^ ^^^_^„
lie saul .ueh Liberals .ere not to be lound .a B^ ^ ^ • a ^^^ ^ ,^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^
Lcleu. of a., in the large c.t.es sueh - ^ ^^ ^^^ ^^ , ,, „., ,,„.»,„.. .h.ther
began by attacku>g relig.n, and ^u.. ^ ^^^ J^^ ^^^^^^^ „^ ^^„, ^e said we
bo said there was in the county a paUy wb c, ^^^^ ^^ ^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ ^^,^,^^„. „
01 on ou.da to beware of Liberah«m xn general. Ho .ud ^^^^ ^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^^_
^-^^ hy-ocritical mask to iun-lant ^Vr^-^^^^J^^ ,^,,, ,,,, then ean.e and spoke
g tors of LiberaUsm. I understood hm. to be .Ulua.u ^^ ^^^^^^^ ^^ ^^^^^^^^_ ^^^^^
t the county with rofer^cc to U.eUo^H..as^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^ ^,^ ,.,
v,.as condemning Oauadiau Lioer^a.^m,
1(15
liiiiii-,. I iriii'iiil. r liiin iiMtiii!,' " :il!o\v l•llnliilllt(•^7 ,i,l<inr to -[i(,ii. 1 nx'li ilonr.'
llrilldo'l "it otln Cs want li> Hluali, l.t tlicui lili.l lioii^i - llr lany hiv .jmlitli of fiilsi'
in'niilicts iiikI fiilNi> CliriHt^ iji liis .Si^rtivin. f h-Vvw In- li.l. I o uil.l udl „ay with what
oliji'ct, for till' nrrmon Initrd v. ry Idii;/ m limr nr an h mr .iinl i Imlf, in fur as I I'lin
rco'oUoct : Im Njiokf ii Imi;/ tiiiii>. I do not niin'inlMr nil ii. .,iu,l. Tlir Cmv Imd pniii'licil
.i2()0 imollior srrmoii on tlio ^liiiuu subject on ii fia4 day.
Aii'drdiii^' !) iiiy uni'i- 1, .1 .1111, in di-cid.d iiiuny ink.'Aiinn ■ in tor-., ulio
otlicrwiso rtoiiid noi h^iw Nolr.l. ((Ill, i-s and niy^'lf uhuvhhhoiI the /,',,»;/(■.< witli th,' saiuu
iiU'a (ilitiiK /(• mniir .siii.-). At tlio tinio of tlie .sii-nnii of lln) KKli v.iy liMtn was 1, I'l to bo
done: the sides wtirn iidoptid ; t^iicli iwiity bad only to bold it < own. Wliiit 1 <lid do was in
favor of Drfoiidant, Tli.; Dufraidant -i".!,!' l^, lu" lat, ly i f,w days iij,'o, I l,-li,'vc -of the
surinon of tlic Idtli day .(amnuy, unci iiskod niu it I was prfsiul wlifii it was lU'livur.',!. Hi'
dill not a.4i me if I could contradict wrtin -^ -I's already licard, but lio cnnuircd if the Cure had
cxidaiiii'd the IJi.^luips' pastoral lett.r, ami if h,' h,M it in his hands. [ answered yos. I
do not know if otie'rs who work, I l,)r the Defendant niiule use of (lie Cure'n Kerrnon.
3210 I ""I'lf 110 use <if it mys.'lf. 1 must st ite the sunie tiling' with refenneo to tli Ilishop.s'
pastoral b;tter. I beard Mr. ['arte, editor of l.i f'anuilii'i»ie, speak soinotimo beforo the
election, h was ihiriny the last season. Mr, Tarte liii,l the P'sbop-,' p,i>loriil mid wa^
explttiiiiug it on the lin.stin;,'s aj,miiist Mr. Treiubhiy, who was present. He was ^tatiiij,' the
I'listoral letter oondeniiud Mr. Tn niblay as a Liberal, and Mr. Trenilday ropiidiat, d the
liiboralisin coiidemiied by tli,' ISisbop, statiiif,' lie ilid wA prof' .s it liinis,'lf.
Ckoss-Hxaminei).
•
At the time of Mr. Tarte's sjieecb above iii,ntioned tlie Defendant was not yet in tin-
tield. At tlie election bifore last (IHT'j), b.'t\v<>en Mr. (rantliier and .Mr. Cinion, Mr.
(lautliiir's majority in Daie SI. J'aul was over two liiimlred. Mr. (iautbier was .siipportiil
.S220 by Ml . 'I'rt inbl.iy. It was the latti'r who was tlio cans,, of most of the suceeess in bis
candidature at l!nie St. I'aiil after many iiifeliiii;s. The Cure spoke then also against
Ijib, ralisin, but I believe he was neutral with ref;ard to the election, I met him often, and
he never spoke to mo about it— no more than this winter. I know not tb, t canvassiiij,' was
carried on in J5aie St, Paul by sjioakinn against tlut firiests and the titlies. .\ large number
of Xfr. Gauthier's supporters became those of the Di^fendant.
'I'lie present de[iositioh beiiii.^ read to the witiievss, be persists therein, stathig it
contains the tiUtb, and hath signed.
M iiULCllAliJ).
I'likeii ami atiurii to ht/uri' im . in n/nii Coiirl. iil Mali air, lliix 7l)i i>f Aiiiiunf, lf*7<i.
3230 A. 15. ItOlTIUKK,
.1. .s. r.
r
-j^^.^ysi^gB
i^^JILM^^
I'KOVINCKOl (Jl'KHKC
Pitlrirl 0/ Snuumay
M
lOtt
SUPERIOR ^^')UHT.
ilK DOMINION CONTROVERTED Kf^ECTIONS ACT. IS74
Mai.uai'1. Hovouth day of AmnHt, lS7fJ.
I'u^.HRNT :— ToK lioN. A, Li. llotTrnKB,.!, H. (!.
3240
UUAbSAKD IT KL.,
Pulitioners
UoN. 11. L. LANOEVIN.
Vrjcndant ,
Evidence on Ute i>art of PeUtioien
Zophonn SavarJ, aged 88 year., faruur, of tLo parbh of St. UUarion being duly
.worn u,.!u the Holy Evangelic., .loth cU,,o.o and say : I lu.ow the parU,. u. tlun ease.
.,n not n.lat..d or allied to, .,r in the employ of. or servant to any uf the.u. I hav uo
'i^to^^t u heissu.ofth.sca.o. I .as an elector and voted at the elecfon n. ,ue ..on.
1 S Mr Lan,l,us, Cure of St. llilarionH. Her.nou m the cdauxh of sa:d par.sh, on the s.x-
teenth January last, the last Snnday before the votuig.
3250
Objected to by Defendant as in Abel Maltais' evidence. Objection reserved to the
merits.
lie began his sermon by saying that he ^vas happy to notice the parish had changed
the. op naon. He stated that Home «tiU remain who had not changed ; that some cro,>ked
tZIZo.,..) are always to be found ,.«n, scandal to others. He explame L,bera^
tot ksaid we could not be a Liberal m poUt.es without bei..,a Liberal .n re l.,.o., ; tha
th" Jel. wo th.ngs whieh co.dd not be separated. He afterwards stated hat there we..
twrbH the blue banner, whieh was that of the Conservative party, and the red b.u.n r
, . be I iberal party Ho added that those who followed the red ba.nur followed \ .ctor
r:.;::^,^ii;;:Lthose who .llowedthe blue bann^
^QfiOoverBaid- •• At the moment of death whom do you .nte..d follow.ng, the lope, or \. tor
J— 1 and Garibaldi, who persecute the Pope T He told us we could not ,,ive a Liberal
I
107
•• ;iiiil it is v.vniig to vnto P.liio, tlioy will carry the r.'.s[)Oiwiliility of the net, Init not ynii.'
Wliu'i that .senniju wus iu'i'iii:1uk1 .^uvora! pors >iis loi't the church on nccoiiut of it. At tlic
cud of his sorrnoii tho prirst told us that p,;oplo „'iving sc-aiidal wore always to he fouinl.
Lie iiilded : "Wo.' ni:t'i iii'n by whom scmidiil coiaes." II,; -;iiil there wen soiu- of these
who give scandal iu tiie parish, aud that they were Liberals : addiii;,' tlial N'iclor Kra-
:VICA) iuiiuuel aud (ianhaldi were also Catholics, hut tiiey pei^ecuto the Pope, the liisliops aud the
priests, !iee'ni-;'> th.'V iin> /e./W'X Ifo also spo';.' in his sermon of the N"w iJruiiswick school
(juestioM, hut T cannot recolb-ct what he said. He had previou.-ly spoken to mo about it in a
private conversation at the time of Ins pastoral visit. 1 was a.-lviu^' him why he was a,!,'ainst
the Libera! party and at^'ainst Mr, Treniblay,and he answered that it was b:'eause Mr. Trem-
blay was au able man but had very bad principles, that he was sustainin.tja bad Oovernm.'ut.
Hc'said ilr. Tremblay would not vote to i,'ive Xew J5ruuswicic Separate Schools. He said it
was the Ldieral party's fault if priests were imprisoned in New lU-raiswick for n^fusln- to
pay their school taxes, and he also added thai Mr. Tremblay voted against au amnesty to Riol
and Lepine. The sermon of the Kith January created a great impression in the parish.
3270 Some people told me that only for that sermon aud the pastoral visit they would have voU.'d
for Mr. Tremblay, adding that it woulil be impos,- ible to do so after such a sermon.
Tp to the t'...e id' the pastoral visit we hardly saw any supporters of Mr. liangevin iu
the parish. Oncsime C.authier himself made such an observation saying; •• Much work
nuist have been done in the [.arish since Mr. Langeviu came aud spoke, iov at that time
there was hardly any one for him." 1 value at one-third ..f the electors, more or less, the
number of persons changed by the pastoral visit and by the Cure's sermous. The pastoral
visit was not aade by the Ciu-e iu company with the chiu'ch-warden in charge, Mr. As:,elin,
as it is customary. It is to my knowledge that th(^ Cure said in the pulpit that in futur.' he
would not keep the accounts of the luihriqm. He did not say wliy, but it was generally
3280 thought that it was on account of a disagreement with the church-warden in charge with
r,"'ard to the election and to the aii'airs of the /'<(/-(/7'(.'; I often met Mr. Oncsime (lauthiir
the Local Mendit r, during the election ; ho spoke to ine about the election. He toM me he
expected the mines of St. Urbaiu would soou be put in o[>eration. He shew.'d m.' a letter
in which it was stated th.; thing was promised; but I do not know Dy whom the letter was
written.
My brother, Cniuo Savard, farmer, of St. Hilarion, had then an account with the
mining company; the Company owed him four or live hundred ib.llars. M. Clautlnor told
my brother wh.^ wanted the amount of his account, " Tliere is no hurry, liie mine is about
to be started, a,id you will be pai.l" It was not he who paid, but he kept the books and
3290 uimle ill! the transactions we had with the Company.
Cross-Examinkd.
Wo soinutimes spoke of the said sermon. I am a Roman Catholic, aud this sermon
hud no etfect on me. The result of the voting at last election, at St. Hilariou, was about
tlie same as at the previous election. Jules Tremblay, Toussaiut IJergerou and Etieuue
Dcs"agner stated lluy hail changed their political eonvietu.ns on uecount of the sermon.
One" of them, Jules Tremblay, told me he believed he W(nild have been .lamuod if he had
voted for Mr. Tremblay.
S:SJ?JiaiffiJJgi2J!a!giaamT wsy,^
??,te!-
, .,.^^^-j^i^£^^st^A.iL-i ^•. . -"^^ V , .
108
On the sixti^oiitli January, tlu^ Curi read au extract from Mr. Huutiu!,'touV npcecb
and commented upon it. saying he wanted to subordinate rehgiou to the State. Uo mud
33(n0 those who thus wanted to subordinate religion to the State were Liberals, that Mr. Treuihlay
gave his support to that party. He did not m.ntion Mr. Tr ml.lays name from the pulp.t.
-When I spoke of amounts given by Mr. Gauthier, I mean the gave us a copy of our account
due, for kit was not lie who paid. The Curb's sermon did not make any impression on
me, and did not change my convictions.
The present deposition being read to the witness, he desires too luld as follows :-
When I stated that the Our.^ said that those who voted for the Liberal party would be guilty
of mortal .in, I made a mistake. Ue said a grievous sin. It is in a previous sermoh. that
is to say several months before the election, that he said it was a mortal sin . The present
deposition being read to the witness, he declares it coutainn the truth, and has signed.
3310
ZEPUmiN SAVAUD.
Taken and sworn before iiie, al Mdbaie, in ope< Court, this Sth Angju4, 1876.
A. B- ROUTHIER.
J. s. 0.
I
-,.i..i.jpai;-,%;Sk.^
I'llOVINCE OF QUEBEC, i
D'mlrkl of Saijuemijj . )
109
SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874,
h'lection of a Member for the House of Commons for the Electoral District of Cli arlevoix.
Maluaie, the 8th day of August, 1876.
Present ; — The Hon. A. B. Bo- tiiieu, J. S. C.
3320 No. 14.
BRASSARD et al'.,
Petitioners ;
vs.
Hon. H. L. LANOEVIN,
Defendant.
Kridence on the /lart of Petitioners.
Narcisse Harvey, aged 53 years, farmer, being duly sworn upon the Holy Evangelists,
doth depose and say : —
I know the parties in this ca.se. I am not related or allied to, nor in the employ
3330 nor servant to any of them. I have no interest in the issue in this ciuse. I was an elector, and
voted at said election. Three or four days previous to the election, I had a conversation with
the Uov. Mr. Doucet, Cure of Mai bale, touching the election. I had gone for him for
the sick.
Objected to l)y Defendant, as tending to prove against the cui-fe, fur giving advice and
warnings, as pastor, priest, or cur^. Objection reserved to the merits.
When about going uj) Terrebonne Road, a concession in Malbaie, I spoke to him aiiout the
election. I enquired why Mr. Trendjlay should not be retained as member, as he was a man
of the comity. He answered that nothing could be said against Mr. Tremblay ; that Ik? was a
good meml)er, and that a better one could not be found in the county of Charlevoix. I then
3340 en(]\iired why it was that an elTort was uuvde to put him out, and h(; answered : " It is because
he is with men who might become dangerous," and he mentioned amongst them Mr. Mackenzie.
He was speaking about men of Mr. Tremblay's party when he said thay might become
dangerous. He did not tell me for whom he was, but I saw he was for Mr. Lpugevin by his
language, and because he refuted all I said in favor of Mr. Tremblay.
IC' '•'
no
C'ross-Examineu.
Mr. Doucet is one oi' my friends, uud be would not have ajiokt! to riio of tlio election if
I had not oomiiicnced. I sj)ok« of tliis |)nvatu t'oiivcrsiition to stoiiie, but I cannot name any.
1 should not have n|)oken of it, for I did not like to, he a witness. 1 only knew yesterday
I was to he a witness to-duy, when I received my »uh])Oona, Before that 1 heard now and
3350 t'l^n that I would he summoned as a witness, hut nothing positive.
The present de|>o8itiou being read to the witness, he persists therein declaring it contains
the truth, and cannot sign.
Taken and nworn before me, at Malbaic, in open Court, this f*t/i August, 1876.
(Signed,)
A. B. ROUTHIER,
J. 8. V.
[true copy.]
CHS. DUBERGER,
p. S. 0. D. 8.
r
Ill
3;jG0 I'KoviNCK ov gii'.iii,;', | SUPERIOR COURT.
histikt (i/Siiijuiiiiiit. (
THE DOMINION CONTROVEKTKI) ELECTIONS ACT, l874.
Klf'Huii iij\i .M>iiiil>tr for ilw Uousv u/ Cunuiiuii.i lor tli> Eketuml Di^lrn^t ot I'linrleitoir
Maliiaik, tho Hth liny of July, I87(').
I'KKISKNT ;- TllK Hon. a. H. Hoia'IIIKK, j. s. r.
No. 14.
8870
UltAHSAKI). KT Ai,.,
I'elilhinern
va.
llo.N. II. L. LANGEVIN,
Defctoliiiit.
Kiiilnu-r oil the fart of tlie relitioiiers.
David Roy, 35 yeavs old, of the paiiKli of Malbaii", bailill'. Iioitig duly sworn upon tin-
the Holy Kvangolists, dotli d('|iOhe and say :
I know ihe j>arties iu this ca.sc. 1 am not iclatfd niir allifd to, nor the sirvant nor in
ihi' fniploy of any of tin'ui. 1 am not inlcri'strd in tlie issue of this suit.
1 was an elector a( Hio last elci'tion and 1 voted as such. I rtTcned no letter from the
Defendant after thi^ olcition. I reeeived t i.. .airing the ele< tioii, answering one 1 had written
My letter eontained an apology for my having gone too far against a |)ulilie man. The
answer atiitetl tliiil 1 was jiertVetly free to do what J had done. iMy lettei' had no reference to
8880 * situation. J pre.served two letttr.s and can fyle them in the (.'ourt.
1 had iirononneed myself for Mr. Kane at the conmiencement of the election now in
question. Mr. Kane having retired, 1 remaine.l attached to Mi: Trcndilay's Jiarly, for whom I
had heen at tlie previous election. My political opinions had ehangcil at the end of the elec-
tion, and I was in favor of the Defendant. I had at first heen for Mr. Tremblay, helieving that
Mr. Trendilay kn<w the history of recent times better (hialuirc (oUnii/iorairij and during the
election 1 thought that the Defendant woukl render me bettei' juHtice. I mean to say that ' I
lound tliat Mr. Langevin was dealing niore loyally and gallantly with the people. As a rale,
people coming from all the meetings held by Mr. i.angevin and Mr. Tremblay resjK-ctive.ly,
found that Mr. Trtmblay acted laUier impolitely. 1 did not find it so my.self, but it was said,
3890 evtui by Mr. I'remblay's supporters. 1 was present at one naeting only. Amongst those of
f!^!
II '2
Ml. Tiviiililuy's HMii|.iin.is wli.) h|K.k«' lo iii.Miliout liiiii, lis I hiHf jiisi Mtnlfil iil...... I iimy
_iv ill" miiiif <if Ju.ir|.li l,.il.. i-" i.f Si.-. Au'iii'^, fiirmn 'I'l.irt k''"'!'''"' " '^'l''"'"'' '''"'' "•■
, vti s lu-iliii- Ml', 'riviiil.luy ,4.H.iii.a ti. nusli ill.' I) friiil.ui with Iii.M ur^uuuMitH, uii.l tlmt at a
i.,..,.iii.« l.rliUnSt., A^iK-'s'l.y Mr. Uu^.^in an.l Mr, Tn'iiil.lay. Mr J. t!. I'imtiuiIi liimsplf,
.uvonliu^ lotlii' siiiiir Mr. l-iil..'r#'Mal.'.l ihal Mr. Trnu'ilay was ■■' nKing tliv It.lV'ii.laiil aH
with mwIk. Ii wiis ii.it pivoJHoly what iiMilc iiii' -t.'ft t.ivsnr.ls IV'tVii.laut ali.l imluccl iiu' i.i
iii|i> wit li him.
W I.. 11 .•.iiiiiiiK il"Wii t'r.iiu St. Agui'M I leariiotl friiiii wliat Ih.- l-ilmnil« Hiii.l that tiioy
wcr.' cajjcr f.) win tlic fUvli.iii in or.h-r to ;;i I'il'v tlu'ir h,i:if.l .iii.l th.Mr vi-nKivuav apiiusl ail
3400 thai I .all riliKU.ii, hmi.a-, justic m.l iii..i.iiy P.y th.' al"-v.' w. -.l.s I mi'aii th.' .hTKy
;,uil tl..- wh.,1.' .vcliwiastical hii'r.iiv ., wii.. tl..' l'o|i.' at their h.-,i.l. Without sb.u.leriiiK
auylioay I I'ouhl point ou; .m.; -Mr. I.hm.s M- t .is ,i , oiu' f tho.-w Liburals who wiw s|M.k('u of
ui'lhi/iMiini.rr in my im-si ncr. I did not hiar lum mys..lf, but ihiriiif,' tho whok- time of
th.-il.Mti.iii 1 L.ai.l th.' ckiKyvciA lia.lly.^ii.'k.n of. 'I'lu..-.' who wore ho HpcakiiiK iiKailist the
olvr;!y were Mr. Ti.'inbluy's HU|.|«)rtfi-H, an.1 w.ml.l hav.' IikihI to have walkf.l in the liloo.l ..1 tho
l.rioHlH to th.. kn.i'.-s, .,r at k'i,,.,t t.i ,. - them .Iriv.'U from iln' fouiity aft.-r a wmml i'ii,Htigation.
I myself pivtly .ifi.Mi heanl wonl-i t., th..t .■!r..'l. ..,.1 1 th.-n-h- liiat l.\ .m 'li.- my lot with Mr.
Tnml.hiy, that is to say, by ooulimiingto lum my sym|'athii^s, 1 slioul.l ii].|.ro\- f iinw.uthy mt'ii.
1 am iinal.lo to yivf the names of tiiosi. wli.. iIhh tol.l mo lint th. y « i>ih. • !o w.lk m the
o , iQ l,lo.).l of till' luicsH to th.' knees, ip.au.v it w:is tl..' u>u:il hinj,'imgc .. iiem. '
e.umot name any ol lli. ni. 1 .imi't recolleot their minus. I liear.l R sni.l m I'.e I'ost
Dlliee, at I'ointe Hu i'ie, in the |.i'. s.-n... ..I ab.ml llfl.'en [..'isoii 1 .lare n.it name any
of them, as 1 fear l.. be unjust tow.-, r.l.> lli.n.. tli.l is I l.-ar l.. b.'ti.iv "I' iheln l/'urc.
,1,(1' j'ii! I'/f" Ji„::,i,s,.i,i,mr li In,,' ,■;/,(<■./.) Tl,.' ' is n.'Mrly n.'.'^t L. mv hi,
^»..*-.s7/e;(.-»)n the oath ymilr.^e tuki'ii, .h. y..ii '-at you .lo n..t ii'.'..lli .'t th.'
rmnie .4 uiiy |.aity who s,ii.l thai II' waiil.'.l t.) walk in (!..• Iil.io.l of the prii'stt* t., lii.' kn.'i'S I
.l((.siifr.~ I .iln iniaMf lo f,''^'' '"0 name, with .'.'M^iiiily, bill I maintain that 1 hear.l
the words above s|...keii.
1 .111, not positive, but I i.ni.'mber. ui I thini: 1 remember that J.>l'i. .m. rl.ire, .,f
roinl.' lU Tic, S.til.,r. i.s one of thooe who iim',1 th.' v,,.i'.1s by miMibov,' r.laf.'.l, of walkinj,'
^1, tl„, ,„1 of the piie.sts to the km-.'s, ami I |,...m1iw i;. .„'.'i,.i'.' lliat he .siii.l li.' wMi. .1 all lb.'
prieslH ol the county shouhl !..• .^l,il.l.e,l ami bannish.il Horn the eounty . 1 al.,o susi'i.t that
one of the sons of Ml. JoBei.h l;,.uehai.l, th,' postmasU'r. iisi'.l the abov.i wonls. 1 think th.'
one 1 now speak ot is Charles, Imt 1 eaiiii.,1 s..\ so po-itiv.ly.
l!y ihe lii.,t.iry of iv,'..nt e\. nts [,:„ih„ii,..i,ii,;) 1 lo.'Uti.'n.'.l ■ the be^'iniu ; ; ot my
.'xamination, an I whleh I ii.oii-ht Mr, Tremblay kiew u.ll at lb.- .•..mi.i.'iicemeiit of the
eleetion. I i ,ud estimation of the 1). l.u.lant whirii 1 foun.l was t.m s.-vere. Where I
found him to. .evel- ■ ' ' >a.i,'Kerate.l, was about tl..' item of the thirty two th.aisan.l and »i\
hundre. I dollars wo., , , • .'harg..l th. l>.l"ndant «ith l.:iun^' st..!.':. ...yi„^' be was able to
proNe it . and 1 coneluded ther.'froin thai as a thief is yiv.i. one or two ye.us imprisonm.nt
\\, L;.n<"'vin, luivin.' sl.il.n thirty-two th.iu.siiid si.\
3420
;5430
tor .steal;
fuHi'te
■■r fifte
jlkr-s.
hun.lr.'.! dollai'8 of the public funds, he was all the more amenable to the pistiee »
if an^
e.iuntrv.
118
wl,alH„..v..r. «lnrl, « .1 I...- i. hI.oujx .-cmH. wi.ml l.i.n, uM.l .Iml Mr. T.ru.l.luy lui.l
„„v..r .lun,. nuy<.hi..« l-ul nuHin« th.^ .•••>• of tl.i..f, willmul ,.n.vi„« afVtl.inK to luy kuowl.MlKe.
I,. ,1,., I...«inui..« ..I il l.-'tiou, upnn Mr. Tr-ml.1ay .rn tiouH. I Ht'c-on-lr.l a
n-Holuliuu Nvl.i.l, .iMl ..Ml |.nris..|y M.k Mr. Lau«..vin to Lroo,,,.' . •. u.Julut., M.t wu.. to ih..
coatrarv, u c^i.^uv a^Mi.i^l hiiu o.. a-euuul of tla- #3-.'.fllM> au.l ..> lir^lit-. I aftorwanU ,.l..a.l...l
t.a«yH|«Mvl. an.l tla.„.^hil.s«,H..«. It Im not Mr. TromLlay wlioask.-l i„«..con.l tliut rem.lution-
I.U.I it mywlf. Mv uain.> Uu\ \>'-.i\nU to auollwr r.Moli.tioii, l,ut not lii.,lli.« it HtroiiK
•5440 .•i.oukIi, I i>lve.l to lia^.' .uy imiuc |a.t to tl.o aliov., ianiliour,! oi.r ; l.aviuK to .lo tia. thil.^H, I
wai.(v.l to .lo th.^iu wll. I >M not th.m la<li..v« n.yH,.|f .lociv.vi l.y Mr. Tn-niWiay. I foi.ii.l
a l..,v .Ihvh .ift-ruar,!,. H.al it lonk..l an tl.ou«i. Mr. Ti-M.May ha,l .Icc-ivoil uh, for h.. l.a.l rmi.l
to UM on.' or two lutl.Ts witl.oal si«Malur..H an.! t,.llinK n. tl.at limy w..n. from m.nu- (.nimtH,
l.JH IVi.-n.iH, an.l I tlioiL^ht tli.it .w tia.s,. |.ri.HlH w.t.^ I'-w in nunibor. th.'y n.i«ht liav.. l-t-on
miHtak.^u, I .l....|ar...l mvH«if agair.st Mr. Tr.m.l.i.iy .-ight day h only previous to the voting. I
vsan tl,„r„„«l,ly in IiIh fav.a.r in tl». l..-i.ininK .,f th.' ..i.rtion ; aft^-rwanU I was only hall for
liini, an.l at tl..' tn.l I lonn.l niym'lt foi.i|.i.'t.'lv against liini.
1 sati.slic.1 n.yholf that Mr, Tr.m.hlay ha.l .loc.ivu.l uh, when r.^.n-w-.ting I., uh
the IM-.n.lanl a.-, worn, (/-/»« m.u,-) than In. r..ally wan. and ttl»o by what I wuh t...l.l l.y an
3450 inllu.,ntial |Mirtv ..utH..I., th.' .o.uily. wla.n. I Inul .onsult.-l ou tho n.attt-r, a.i.l win. ol.s..rv...l
that h« only annw.Mv.l n.y .,n.-«lion, with.a.l inten.UnK to intluoncn tho voto I woul.l soon hav«
toc.u.t. Th.. inthu-nti,ili,artyal.ov.. nn.nlione,li«Mr. ..xJml«ol{oy, my father. I wan for
Mr. Tr..n.l.lay in the election of 1874 ; .ho other can.Uaat« wan then Mr. Uhanveau, a .li.ttant
relation ol niin.., an.l a Iri.'n.l ..f n.y fan.ily. It wa« sai.l in that flection that the cl.Tgy were
cjUftlly .lividctl liflwcin : ■ two lan.lidat.H.
I was a|.i...inte.l crier ..f tl.i.s t'ourt, on tho Kifteonth ..f May last, I took
many «t..i,8 to Kct that place; nol.o.ly olk-r.Ml it to uu-. I conuuenco.l looking for it al.out
three w..,.ks after the ele,.ti..n, eight .layn i think after the ren.oval of .ny ,.r.M|..c...sM„r lu ..11..'.., Mr.
AuK..l,u.. Hras.sar.l. I ha.l not even the i.iea of having that plac l-.-lbre or .luring th.' .■I.^ct.o...
8400 Noho.lv H,,oke t.. mv. of a situation .luring th.' whole month of January la«t. I wa.s .mxiouK
during the election lo hav a situation, as woul.l .lo a>iy man havmg n..ne and slung to g.'t
along, especially when having a family jorssing u|...n him (7«.- /«'".*s,' /«<r ,/.•( ' .■.)
1 tnrne.l in f.iv..r of th.- Defen.lant /-nv-r/,. ,m,lw, except that I consultc.l my father, as
«hove«tat.-.l. wl,oh.ftmei.erf..ilvfr..e. Nol.o<ly whatsoever spoke to me about -. l.hice or
employmct or any olh,.- advantage during the election, an.l I sp..ke them)f to ,.ol..,.ly who
wuB ahli' to as.sisC in.' in that way.
Q„estion.-md Mr. George DuBerger, of Mall.aie, hotel-keein-r, ^i-eak to you ..fa place
during the said election 1
t)l.j,-ctol to l.y the Defendant, as tending to prove Ge..r.^e Duherger,
347.J whose name i« not in the bill of particulars as having niadu any ,.romi»e of a situation to sai.l
David Koy.
Answercl to the objection that even if it were question of a case not nientione.1 in the
bill of particulai's, the evi.lencc thereof should not therefore be prevente.i, but tl..- Dei.uJaut
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( oiilil iiiilj a.sk liiiii' to ciniiiirt! alKiut the fjict ; L'lul, that the qiie,stion not tomliiig to prove ii
L'usu not iiiculioucd in the liill of |Mrticuliirs, l)iit on the contriiry a case therein mentioned,
viz; tlie promise of a siluiition liy Joseph Stanislas Perranit uimI Joseph Kane, or tlie
Defeiiihint hirnsdlf for whom (he said (Jeoige DiiBiMgor wius out an iuturmudiato, accordinj; to
tlie lVlition(!rs.
Till' Counsel for the Petitioners asks leave to amend the bill of particulars hy addii)g
O-lbO I'herein tin' name ol'(Jeor;;e DuBerger as having' otlbred a |)laco or some other advantage to the
witness.
Tlie taking of tlie dejiosition is adjourned to the lOtli July instant.
'L'lie deposition of ilie witness is continued, this 10th day of August.
Qtti'Ktiun, — Did Mr. Ueorge DuUerger, o( .Malbaie, hot(.'l-koe[ier, speak to you of a place
during the Hiiid election.
Aimuwr. — None at all.
All those 1 saw tohl mo that tlio party I should vote for would give me some
thing.
I have H had memory. After many days of reflection, I satisfied myself tliat 1 could
'^490 "°'' '"'Ciho to Johnny St. Pierre nor to Charles Bouchard the following words : •' To walk Ln
the blood of the priests to tin; knees." Those last words, " to the knees," may have I'emained
in my meuiory on account of theii frciiuent u.se either in the newspapers or the quotations
which were made from the sermons clelivered by the priests of the county. I cannot swear
that theie were lifteeii persons present wlien those words were utt«)re<l, nor can 1 say with
precision who uttered them ; the reason wluieof being, that during nearly two months both
parties, anil I in particular, had freipii'iit dLscussions, generally in the Post Office.
Cro88-E.\amined.
When I used in my examination-in-chief the following words, "When having a family
pressing upon me," 1 meant my children and the necessity in which I was of having a situa
350U tion. I vote 1 for the Defcada-iit from my own impulse, without having 'he promise of any
place; or advantage whatever.
The foregoing deposition being read to the witness, he persists therein, and (hidares ir
contains the truth, and has signed
DAVID ROY.
t'tikiii ami siiuni bifurt' me, in upmi ruiirl, thia Idlli iluij dJ AuijHst, 1676.
A. B. ROUTHIER,
J. 8. C.
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j'UoviNci: OK grr.uKC, ( SUPERIOR COURT.
I>i,il,:r' I,/ Siiij.liliini. I
3510 THE DOMINION CONTliOVEUTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
KItHioii of a Mtmbii- to the Uonsc of (.'mnmoiui fur tiiK Kh'cU>r,il Ditlnct of C'hnrlecoir.
Maluaie, .Stb day of Auj^ust, 187(5.
I'kesbnt: — I'iii' Hon. A. 15. Uoithikb, .). S. C.
No. 11.
BKASSAIU) KT Ai..
I'etitioiiers ;
UoN. H. L. LANGKVIN,
Df/enilant.
Eriilnio' on Ihf purl of the Petitioners.
3520 |),.ni« Harvey, iiged 73 years, far r, of tla- Parish of MalLaif, liciii^' .Inly awoni upon
till' Holy Kviiii^'dists, ilotli ili'liosi' ami say :-
1 know til.' |)ariifs in tliis caimc. I aui not related or allied to, nor in tlir employ
or .servant to any of tlieiu. I lii've no interoHt in the event of 'his can.se.
1 was an chHtor, anil voii-d at the election in ((nestinii. About eight days previon.- to
the vol iiig I h.nl a conversation toucliinj,' tlie election with .Mr. Doneel, Cnre ol' M.illiaie. It
wisin his olli.eat the Par.soiiage (/V(.s/,;//,(v.) 1 went there pnrposely to speak to him iilioiH
the eleitn.n. I had heard f'lat if wo voted for Mr. Tremblay there would l.e no more religion
in two years, and 1 went to consult him al.out tiiis. I lia.1 heard this from some of my friends
in the oth< r poishes I iold him Mr. Treiii'/lay wiih an honest nian, and that 1 did not lieliev.-
:)5;j0 there was any bin, ov n venial, to vote for him. He answered nu', " VesM. Tieml.lay is ..n
honest m.ai," he is my friend; I e>:',eem him ; lie is a good fellow, and a good n.eml,er:
it is a pity he 1, long,, to tiiat pariy." llion this 1 ceased spt-akiug on tlie sul.ject. Then le'
came back on the electoial canvass. He said. •' It la strange how people get excited about elec
tioUK ; i d?,u't e.xcite myself, and 1 remain nuiet. Next Snn.l.-.y I will read the [.astoral letter
to them, ami then, if they want toh.se themselves, liu) mr.y do it " He did not speak
to me against Mr. Tremblay's party. I cannot say if this is « hat he meant when m' state.l
thai if they wiuited to lose themselves lliey might, but I thought from the conversation in
general that lie meant those who would m>U- for .Mr. Tieml.lay. I cannot say wh.thei or
not 1 uiHUastniMi wel
iit he .^alil, Ian this is what, I thoiigiil.
116
3540 Oross-Examinki)
At (lir tiiiif 'if this coiiviM-satinii vvilli tlic curi' |)oiR-i-t, 1 vas iilom- with lam. iJiiini
ilic cimveisatiuii somi-l)iKly oainc in. mul wi- .stopiird tlii> com rHutioii
Till' jilfisi'lit. (|c|ii)siti()li lii:ilig rend to the uitnCMH, lie (HihistM tliciflli, ileclarilif!; U to > on
tiiin tlif tiMitli. mill liiitli siii;iied.
DKNIS HAKVKY.
Tiilini mill ■iimni lietmr nu', iiinpi'ii omit, ill Miillniii', lUi nt .[iiii'ixl, lS7li.
\ I! RonTHlER,
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i-iioviNiK OF >n Ki'.Kc. ( SUPERIOR COURT.
3560 />;./,. w./N";/'" "".'/• '
1)(
)M1N1()N CONTUOVHUTKD ELECTIONS ACT. 1^71.
Mai.UAU-, tlic Stii (liiv lit Au,i.Mlst. lH7ti
No. II.
I'UKSKNT :— Hon. A. li. llorriiiKi!, J. S. ('.
BllASSAUU KT Ai...
I'llititiiii'rx .
8560
Hon. 11. L. LANGEVIN, C. B..
I>i;f,li(l(llil.
Krihun- I'll llii IHU-I I if I III- J'ltili'iiii'rs.
r:nn. S.v,o-a. 14 yours old. of tl,e y.al.h of St. llilavion. tkrn..r. Ih.uj. .h.ly swon,
upon tl.<- Holy KNUi-elists, -lotli acpose ami say •.
1 know tl... ,,a>-ti.s in tins c.us... 1 .„. not r.l.u.\ no, „t kin to. no. s...van,, no, In
,1... s..,vi.v of any of th.Mn. I Lav. no int.-,-..st in th.i ovnt of tins sn.t.
OI,,..,.,..a t., l,y tl.« DelVnaant. th. sa,..- as to ,hr .vi,!.,,.... of A.-.l Malta,. 01,..:.,on
ris('i\<'il to till' noTits.
, was an ..l..to, at tla- el.vtton in -,.-'-'- -"' '-- -"^'' "^ ^•"•''- '"/''".''"^ '^
„,,„,„,. ,.t, M... l.n,lais,fn..ofSt. 1 l,la,.,o,.. ,vtu.- 1 tl.e Ks oi . W ../.-V"- to -^
,,- (, .hutdt .,;..aon in .ha..,.., Mf. Ass-lin, who has ...-n la.,, as a .,. ^. , ' ^l^^^; "l^ ^;
S.„ ..V he wouhl nut keo,, th. l.ooLs .. l....... Th.. -ntv an^w...,! that a .a > u .
iH.,.eaU...l hi,n a„.l was against hint in .ansh a,al ..h.tion .naUers. 1 1 -.„. '^^ - '
Lovsito, tho pa..ish .n the ..otnpany of M,.. Asselin, as it ,s cnston.a,, , j''^" ' '
.,,u,vl,-«a..h.n in .ha,.«e, 1 .lon't U.a.. I„s ......a. U. ,t. U> -Us «,.,o , U- n, Oa ,,.
lai that sal'jfi't.
.,i,,,,u..i.ol,> ,1a. iM\n,tan,. ( .l,i,.,.,ion ,rs,.,.. .1 to .ho rit^
, ..,. ,,,....,„ wh.n M,-. Langlais ,avaola..l h.s so,.ao,. tl.o h^t Sunday »H.to,-o tl,.'
„„„„. n,: whoh. pansh of St. Ilila.l.n ,s , -athol,... a,., n > - V. .■ . ..aonr..- of i^-r'-'
M. i
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118
;il cliiMvli thill iliiv. lie .^iicikc in wiiil snt I' tin- Viilf ilir rlcrlinN wcic to aiMt lit llif ond
35S0 «>i' tlif wf.-k.
lie ;,'a\i' it tii lir iiiiilfistooil lliiit it would Kc ii sin to voli' t'.ii' Mi-. 'rr-c'inlp|iiy. tlioil^;li lit'
liid not iiiiiiic ill'' lalli'i. I liiivc always lici'ii a sii|>|iort(i of thu I )i'fiTidaiil, IVoin tilt- lici;iiiliinj{
to llif cud of tin- idi'i'tioii. I had liiM'ii for Mr. TictiiMiiy, mid had '.voikt'd lor him in his two
|ircvioiis (lections. I turned ii;,'aiiisl him this tiling (limu!,di coiivictioii. 1 changed my opiMioiis
.il'lcr ha \ iii^ witnessed (lie a/lairs ami licaril disoussiuii, {A/irrn ttvair vii A.i iill'ilin'H fl <i/in:t
avuir iiilcK.lii j)(ir/ri:) I thus chaiij;ed my mind liccausc I lhoiij{lit lii,u Mr, l,aiigevin «ould
pi'ovp lo.ss titiililiurn ii man thiin Mr, 'i'reinhliiy.
I know Mr. I )ni'sinic (lauthier, the local inemhcr for Cliarhnoix. He came to my
|)hic(! during the election, the m ry day that the Defendant spoke at St. Ililarion. lie did not
3590 s|i''iil^ "'''»' ''l'^'''»" t*' ""'•'"'• t"''l '"•' • " 'l"iik<' note of the niiml)er of votes there hit, ami
you will let me know ; you will write to nie." lie meant tin' nnnilier of votes there weru for
t'lii'h of the candidates. I went to the said Oiicsime ( Ji.iithicr's place ei;,dit or ten days liefore
tlie voting. I Went there for the |iiii|io.se of sittling accounts I had with the St. I'riiaili
l\liliii;j^ ('oiii|iany. The St. Irliain Miiiinj^ Comiiany w.as indehted to me to the amount of
one limidred iiound.s. I was with my lirother Zc'iihirin, and i wanted him to yive nie the
iinioiint of my claim in order that I should have it disoountcid hy thu C!urt' of St. Urhaiii, who
was Ijiiying claims against the C'om|)aiiy. lie gave my hrotlier his account, but would not
give mo mine, stating that he did not think Mr. Kafard woidd discount two notes of such a
large amoutit. lie asked nie news of the election. 1 answered I thought the votes Were
oGOU I'll'i'dly di\id(d ill St. Ililarion.
Ho said on tliat occasion that he had letters from some gentlemen who spoke of liuying
the niines. The minis had lieen sto|i]red since a long time. People then helieved in St
I'lliain and Si. Ililarion, that if the mines wore thus liought, that they would he in operation
again,
I met my hrolhcr Francois during the election, and we spoke aliont it Uigether. lie told
me he had Just i.rrivcd from llaie St. Paul and St. Irliain ; that he thought the election was
safe; and that there was a large niajority iit I'.aio St. Paul and St. UrUiiii. I don't recollect
having s)iokeii to anybody of the expenses incurred at previous elections.
ijiii'^tidii.- l>iil you say to Zephirin llergeron, school teacher at St. Ililarion, that it was
oGlU better for a man to be guided by l:is interest than liy his opinion, or something to that eUcct (
/((/.sii'tr.- 1 may very jiossibly have told him sometliing, but not like that.
(JneKliuii. — What did you tell him. then !
Amiirr. — It seems to me that I once told him that he would do letter not to mi.v up in
the election, on account of his school.
(Jiifslioii.- l)i<l Duesiuie tJauthier or Francois Savaid say to you, or did they suy in your
piesonce, that tnore were advantages to be had on the North Shore Itailway, or in the niiues,
for tho.so who would siil
with them, or something to that etioct (
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,t,imirr. No, lll".V 'liil not Hf^Hlt "•' •''"'
y,«»n.., Onnu,, -h, u.uo nf tl,.- ..Uvuou, wa,. tl.. .nm.linn .1 . r.nl^.v ...«..•«>
Ins:
,„„„ „„.yh.,. nh,.n^o.,l ,1,.. „n,Ms.,|,. l-win -h.- Parihl,, Im. no. . 1 .
I.ir'gf iiiiiiiIh'I (iI
G'RdllB-ExAMIMBU.
1 .li.l not uu.U..>tand that the .•«.•.:• -i-l i" 1- nnmon of the Ulth of .I..uu,u.v, that to
, ,„.. ilu. ti...ml ,,a.ty wan . nu,.i..l H.u. Acco.Un« to .a.., h. aid not exactl, say that th«
L.......IH we..« . ...h '. h... > . ,1.. .■nn.Me,..). Ue oxphdnea the ,..«,to„.l letter <'-;''-;-
of th.. BisUopH ; h.. Haid that ho who wo.dd no, follow his l.i.sho, and the ,nrH,H would comtn
, ,u. I don't recollect if ho .aid that we Hhould vote for the ConBervat.ve ,.arty. Mo ,a.d
3630 that '.e who aid not follow hi» lU.hop and the ,rieHtH wan doing lik.. Victor h.nmanuel and
:o«oi„g de,K,«itio., hcin« read to the witnesn. he |,er«iBtH therein, and declarer that
t,,,n tnith, and haw Higned.
C. SAVARD.
Taktn u,ul Swovn to be/ure ,ne, in open Ccun, at Mnlime, tlus H,h .ltt,7".s<, 1870.
k. B. UOUTHIEK
MICROCOPY RESOLUTION TEST CHART
(ANSI ond ISO TEST CHART No 2)
I 2.5
1.25
^m IIII2.2
1^
1.4
2.0
1.8
\,6
^ APPLIED \M/{!3E In
■'-3 C<15' Mom 5lreel
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PKOVINCK OF QUEBEC. ,. SUPERIOR COURT.
lyiKlrirlof Huij'Hnnii. )
3G40 DOMINION CONTiiOVERTED ELE(JTIONS ACT, 1874
h'.hrliiinof u Maiibcr for llw Ihiiixi- aj i.'tiiiunoii.i for llii' Kli'ctoml Uiatrut of ''liarltroi.v.
Mai.uaie, August 8th, 1876.
l^RKSKNT, — Hon. a. B. Houtiiikk. J. S. C.
No. 14.
BRASSARD i:t .m...
Petitioners.
vs.
Hon, H. L. LANGEVIN,
Drfriulanl.
EihUnci 'III the juut of the Pttitioiiers.
•^fi^n Zcpliiiiii iii'i'^cron, of tlic pinisli of St. Jlilaiioii, 31 yearn old, .scliuul teaciiur, being
iluly sworn u)iori iho Holy Evaii.L> '' "s, doth Juclai-e and say :
1 aui aciiuaiiitwl will] lli> , I's in this suit. I am related, allied, .sei'vaut to or in the
euijiloy of none of them. 1 am not interested in the event of this eause.
1 am a lato ]iupil of the J.aval Normal Sehool. I suidied al the time when liishoj)
Lani'ftviu was its I'riueipal. 1 heard a sermon pieaehcd hy the Rev. Mr. Langlais, C'iir6 of St.
Hilarion, in the church of said parish, on the sixleentli of January la.st.
Olvjected to by the Defendant upon the aume grounds as to Abel .Maltais' evidence.
(Jbjection reserved to the merits.
Ho commenced his sermon by saying that he was going to siJeul< to us about the
3660 ejection a little, not much, as usual, lie then Haid : " Remember well when you'll give your
vote that the Eternal Rcuig will weigh it in his scales with great severity." He then said
•• 1 am goin;^ to .lymbolise the two parties by two banners — the blue banner representing our
Holy Kiuher the Pope and the red one representing Victor Emmanuel and Garibaldi." Then
•' Ou which side would you like to be when you die) — with Victor luumanuel and Garibaldi,
or with our Holy Either the Popel Think of what you are aliout to do during these eight
days, for the vote you will give Ls of more importance than you think."
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IT,. S.M tl,..t tlu. r,Ml bMUuer r,.|,n..s(M.lca ili.' fil.n.-iils, .m,l tl.o l.luo one the (Jonsor-
vativ... II. sai.l it wan a yiifvous .sin to vote for tl.o LIIhthIh. He sai,l tl.oiv was no Imnn
in cha.i.'iu- ou,5's opinions in order to please the Cure, and if it wmr a sin tiie sin ihouhl tali
lie.li.l not,s,,e.,k of crooked l.eu.l.s in that sermon; ho had said so Lefore, hut not m n.y
presence. He preached upon the eleeliun many times.
He .said he svas happy that the -reat.'st part of tlie parish had understood his advice,
hut that there were still some scandal-hree.lers (.! s xauuhdrn.,-). Those he nualiti-d a. -uch
were Liberals. He suid it was necessary that there sh.,uld be scan,lal and scandal breeders m
■A parish, but woe to him by whom scandal comes.
He said there were (huibahlians in tlie p.rish, men who iwrsecute.l their O-ire. T
m.derstood i,e meant the Liberals. (Jaribaldi does not enjoy a very good reputation in the
parish.
o.-on He said he inade uo dillerence between a Libera! in politics au,l a Liberal iu rehj-ion-
that the one could not fail to be the other. He told us the I'.ishops' pastoral cm.den.ned the
Liberals. I ha.l l>rivato conversations with the Cure about the election tho day before the
votin-' I did not speak upon this qncstion tir.st. 1 had -one i"i'l I'^'i"' '".v tithes to h,m. His
sisteiC who lives in the pai-sonage (,„r.hjU're), opened the conversation on that subject, and
'le continued.
Qucstityn,
-I'leaso relate wha. he told you during the said conversation.
ejected to bv the Defendant: -1st, upon the grounds already set forth in the evidence
of Abel Maltais; L'ml, becan.se the 4iu-stion tends to prove that the Cure exercised mlhu.nce
upon the witness, or facts which nnf,d,t incrin.inate the Cure, and because the name ol the
3600 witness is not in the bill of particulars as having been inlhienced or intimidated by the Uev. Mr.
Langlais.
Thereupon the Petitionee declare that they adjourn the hearing of this witness'
evhlence until to-morrow, the Oth August, and that they shall then prove by him what
conversations he had with the Cure Langlais about the election.
The Defendant objects to the a.ljmirnment, and protests against the irregularity and
insufficiency uf the Petitioners' notice.
The Court adjourns the hearing of the witness until to-morr<,w (<)th August) to allow
the Petitioners to 'take such procee.lings as they think tit. The question of costs is
reserved.
Aiiyusi 'dill, 187G.
The evidence is continued.
C^«..,'^>H.-Please relate what the Cure tohl you in the convrsations you referred to
3700
yesterday.
Objected to by the Defen.hmt upon the same grounds as in the preceding rpiestion.
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Tlu.|'..tition...Hth..,M,.ovoat.,lu..llow,..noa.,u.u,l tluMr l.iU of vaHicM.lurH l.y adding
therein U,. nun>o of .1.. witn-.H uh having Inul c.onv..,.aliu.,s will. Mr. UngUuH, Cure of the
said ,,arisl,, in th. course of which Mr. l.u.,-'.ai. wanto'. to i.aiu.idaU. iho wUuc«« and the
otiicr r.niiiun Catholic cleetoi'H of the County.
M, I- A Tr,.n>l,lav, being sworn, an.l .stating that the abov. fivcts concerning the
3710 witnosshadcon.eto his knowh.lgo only a few days since, the IVitione.V motion is granted,
and till' witness' answer is tiicrefoic! allowed.
.l..,«.r.-This was on the day befbre the voting. The Cure having i.>terfcr.l, and saj.1
to nu, h,. was not anxious about n>y vote, because I had understood the scnnou of the 16th.
• Ho said to n„. • " Vou had better try a.d ,.lease your district (arrowlU.em,:l) rather than any
other;" adding 'hat t!,er,.. was not a single Liberal in that .listrict (arro../,.«..e.i) ; your
district (.u;... ..eni) is a Coa.servative one {est hka) ; your father-in-law is a bleu, and ako
your Cure, your bisho,, and your Poi^e : thitd. of what you have to do.
The dav of tl>e sern.on (January ICih). be sent his brothe- m-law to invite n.e to the
parsonage (.rl^Lytere). 1 went ; his sister took n.e into hi ■ .ace and s,k,ko to mo about .t ;
3720 the Cure himself did not speak to mo about it.
The Cure can.e into the ollice ; 1 bowed to hin. and asked him if he had any business
with n.e, to which he answered : " You now know what you ha -e to do ; you umler.stood the
instructions I gave you."
The Cure was in the vest.y ; he coidd not hear the conversation I had with his sister ;
the latter had locked tlie door of the parsonage (,„rsl,:,Ur,') after seeing me m.
Ckoss-Examined.
I was one of Mr. Trend.lay's supporters, hnmediately after saying that the electo.-s'
votes would be weighed with severity by the Eternal, the Cur6 compar ' the two political
parties to two banners, as by lue stateil above.
o-ron On that dav the (Jure read and ex,:lained the pastoral letter {„uu.k,ncn:) of the
Bishops' He spoke of Liberalism. That Sunday the Cure mentior.ed the speech nu.de by the
Hon M"r. Huntington, the Postmaster-(Jeneral, in the Argenteuil County. He add..d that
the said speech contained dangerous doctrines. I don't know if he spoke of Mr. Huntington s
speech before he read the maii<1imeiit.
The Cnr6 sai.l it was his duty to .leclare that to vote in that sense was a sin. After he
„,,, ,<.ad the pastoral letter {.uuah„u.t) and the e.xtract fron. Mr. Huntington's .si^ech the
Cur6 ad.led that those who undei.tood the things properly and wo.dd vote t.u- the Libera
party would comn.it a sin. The Cure spoke of grievous sin, and not of mortal sni ; at least, I
think HO ; I dou't recollect.
„,n When some parties left the church du.ing the sern.on, the Cure wiv-s then saying that
^^^^ there were scandal bree.lers (,ks .cau.M.a.) in the pansh, and he repeate.1 those words after
thev had L'oue out.
t
123
riio (;ur6 diiid that u man caiuiot in cousciencc be a Catholic Liberal, and that there wuh
no ilifrpronw) Ixstween Cutbolio LibtiraliHm and political Liboralism.
Tht) (Jure «poko many timuH of the election Irom the pulpit in my prenence.
» The (Jurb said that the electora would have to account for thoir votes m well MR for tho
other deeds of their life. Tho last time (of which I spoke a moment ago) the Cur6 himself told
nic that he had sent for me three or four times during the week.
1 iini ii Roman t.'atholic ; tho Oure and iiis sermon did not change my political convio-
3750 tions, and I voted according to my political convictions,
The foregoing deposition l.eing read to the witness, he peralsts therein, and declares that
it contains the truth, and has signed.
Z:fePHIRIN BERGERON.
Taken <ind snorn before me In open Court, al Malbak, this 'Jth day oj Awjust, 1876.
A. B. ROUTHIER,
• J. 8.
fl
Ilii
SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTHOVKHTEl) tXKCTIONS ACT, 1-74.
PnoVINCK OF QUKHRC, (
l.iMfid of SiiiiiiiHiLi). )
3760 Klecliim .// a MmUr to ilic Ihi'tse of Cummons, l\,r ih, Khrlnnil DiAriit «f I ' li.irlcvmx .
Maliiair, AugiiNt 8ili, 1870.
Nu II.
Prebknt; — lloN. A. H. UmrtiriKK, J. S. C.
aUAtsBAUU, BT AL.,
/'ttiliviiert.
Hon. II. L. LANGKVIN,
Defhidnnt.
Eiiili'iue on the fiurt of the Pitilioncrt.
Jules Tivmblir', soil of KiuhcrTiciiilpliiy, 31 vi'iiiH old, of tlif paiisb of 8t. lliliirion,
3770 farmer, Ixiiig iluly sworn uim;ii tlit- floly lUiiiiKi'lisiH, 'loth duposo aiul s:iy ;
I um iiaiuaiuU'd willi Hjo jiiiitiLb iu thiij cause, I am not itlatcd, nor akin to, nor
servant nor in the oni|)loy of any of thuiu. 1 am not iuterostud in tho issiit^ of tliis suit.
I was was an elector and voted at the election now ia ciut'stion. It is my uana^ that is
written on the li.st of voters as Jides 'JVemhIay. 1 hud declared my.self ut the hegiuuing of the
election for Mr. Tienilihiy's imrty ; 1 was no mori! for him at the end of the el(!Ction. What
made me eliange my u|.inions was the opinion of the cler'^'y, after the instiiictions they jjave iu
their sermons ut ihureh. 1 heard many sermons on that matter from the Kev. Mr. Lungluis,
cure of our i.arish; hut the most exjilicit one was that preached hy him on thu last Sunday
before the voting."
3780 Olijected to on thu same grounds as to Abel Maltais evideuM. Objection reserved to
the merits.
In that sermon he said that we were obliged to vote for the Conservative party, whick
was the Defendant's party. He said it was wrong to vote for the Liberal party, and doing so
woulil lead us to bad things.. 1 cannot give hLs very wcrds. I don't know if he said it was
a mortal sin, but he said that he who voteil for the Liberal party worked for hell, for the
abolition of religion.
I presume that sermon created a strong impression on the electors. JIany of them told
me that after such a ^eiuiou il wub iuiiwasibic to vote fur Mr. Tremblay ; and it is what I ssvi.l
if
-' 3'nmm Js mmmmmmimmm
to myH».|f; ,....1 it wuH ilml wl.i.-h |.irv,.Mt...l n... tioiu volin« lor Mr. Tr-ml.lay. I lli'.n«l.t I
3790 .M.uM uot Nut,. lui |.in. witlwrn. >h>\w^ wr,,,,.;, wit .1 «oi..« i.Kui.Mt roliKi-.n .lu.l u.y I'^^Htorn.
A,-..nlinB to tny ivIiKi.m. .•,■ 1. uh „ r,ul.nll,., I l-li^'v. ilia. 1,- wl.n workM -,;;,.i..Ht tl...
r..|l«i.Mi, ana lii^ piittoiM hIimII k-j to li.'ll iiflor hit <lratli.
I wa.|.i..H,.„tat,m..l.v„.,Hl,n....ti,.^lM.l.ll.y th. I),.»>.Mla,:t. .- Ilvi-lih. Tn.M.May'H,
alaru.r of St. Ilila.ion. Th- IJ. friHlatit tl...» a.i4 tlim. lima., a s|.-.Mh. II. .•x|.lan..Ml what
was il..,\.n„...,n..,„v of l„.|onKin« to .' o Lil...,:,! party. I .Um't know wh^.h-r ho ..a.l
,,r..vi.,UHly Mwntio„...l ih. fhT^y ol' th.> .uuuly, hut I .nyH..ll- tol.l hi...; "Tiw .1.,^ ^.-mo to
be in your L.vor, hut if it w...v .h.rJMml h. Mm,,. ..x|.li..itiy, it wouhl .h. ,uo,.. « i.o your
elootion" ll.M.UHW.,v,| 1„. (.nsMMM,! .h.i .!..• ihi,,^' w.m.M hoo.i b« mon- clearly uu.h.rNl.,.Hl.
Th.< H..i.l nK..li..^{ took l.laev ,|uriH« w,-k hchuv th. sonuo,, I have. H|".k.M. ot ahovv.
3800 From what wan gru..ra!iyHal.l,th,.M.n.ious oft ho. Muv hav chau,^..,! tia- uou.U of .
good nuuihiu' of .•h'ciorH, l.ul I oiuuot Htat.- th.'ir uuuih.T willi [.rcciniuu.
Cuojili-KXAMINKI).
I am rea.l a little imd Nvrito lay liauu.. I uu.lm.t.wl tho euro to »ay thai vv.' niu.l vote
for th. Cousnrvativ. party, frou. the «m...ral tcuor of his K.r.uouH. I caum.t i.r.cis..ly rq.ort
hi« own worils.
(.»».«<i»».---Yn.i hav,. slatr.,1 in your rxauiin.ai.m iu rhi.-f tiiat th,. cur,', ha^l sai.l it vras
wron« to vote for th.^ I.ihoral partv, plras,. r..iat.. ih.' ex).r..ssioim ho umdo uso off
.|«mrr-llo sai.l so wi,«u .Npiainiu^ to .is tho policy of tl.H Lih«ralH. I a.a ....ahh' to
,..,,ort what ho Hai.l when he npoko of tho l,iho..al poiioy. Tho cu.o sai.l that to vole tor the
3810 l^il>o.al pa,ty wuuUl load us to hell; he uso.l that vo.y ...Ma-.'ssiou. The o.,.-o sa.d that any one
who ku...w better and voto.1 for tho Liberal parly was doin- wrong.
I ,„.do.Htood that if I vot..l for tho Libnai pa.ty I would !.■ a^'..i..st th,- .oli^'.ou, bo-
oa..so tho euro ..xplab.od to ..s tho hiws passed by tho Liberal pa..y, whieh dost.oy tho Mv-u.u
I did not notice wliiih law ho mo.itioiiod.
Knan what I hea.d said by a.oroable po.soos than i, Mr. T.v.u.lday had ,uy contideoce ,
( would have voted for hi.uj b..t 1 k..ew ..o.hing by .ayself .u.d I was wa.ln.g for those
instructions that would bo lhe".nost worthy of co..lidoi,cy.
1 hoa..l t„o .ore reading tho ISishops' p.cstoral lotto.-. 1 do,.'l know vo.-y well what it
w«8 about, but I undorstoo.1 IVou, it thai tho liishops wo.-e against the Libe.al parly. I he
3820 voadi.,g of this pasto.ul letter i..duoed nu> to begi,. to thi..k over the .natter we 1, a.ul when,
afte.wards, 1 saw that the clergy, ,dl the prieHts were agab.st that pa.ty, I eha„,ed ,oy op.u.on.
Thocu.e explah.ed to us Libe.ali.s.n, and 1 n..de,slood it was tho sa.-.e thi..g as tho
l,ibei'al party.
When 1 heard the pnsto.al letter (mamlement) .ead, I do.i't kn,.w whether I heard the
wonl Lib. ralinn,, but then, we.-e certainly i,. it words lo the ollVol that Liberahs.a was a b
thing ami ho tile to religion.
126
f
I,rtst Sunday oight ilayH the Cur6 |iieiiched ami I don't rftniumlier a single word ot
his sermon, 1 would lik(!ly remember what lie said wero I to think of it. 1 do recollect the
instructions of the curt' during the election because we never ceased speaking thereof.
3g30 I often talked that over with Rciile Asseliu and /ephirin .Savard, who were heard as
witnesses. I received a subpcena on Sunday last, which Wi'.s handed to mo by lleiile Asselin.
I am unable to give the name of a single electcir present at the meeting at Ilypolito
Ti-eniblay's ; most of those present hud no vote. When I spoke to the Defendant, at Hypolito
Savard's placo, I spoke aloud. The Defendant was at a distance of ten feet from nie, and he
answered aloud so as to be heard by all those jiresent. 1 swear the Defendant said that he
expected it would soon be even more clearly undei'stood, {iiii'il pensait hien que cela allail ctrf
miiijjrix jiliis clairniu-nl encore procltainenwnt) and tliat ho used that very expression.
I have great confidence in tiie priests and 1 like to follow their advice, not only in
politics, buc also in every thing, as far as possible.
3840 The foregoing deposition being read to the deponent, he jjersists therein and declares
that it contains the truth, and has signed.
JULES TREMBLAY,
Tahm and^worn to before me in open Court at Mcdbaie, this Stit day of Awjust, 1876.
A. B. ROUTHIEK,
J. 8. C.
"T^
127
PROVINCE OF QUEBEC. 1 SUPERIOR COU RT.
IJislrirl iij Snijiii'nnij. )
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874
l\/iir/ion III II Mi'iiihi'r for tlie, IIdiim' of l.'oiinii,uii^ for t/ie lilir.toral District of C/nirlerolx.
3850 Mai.ii.MR, tlif iiiutli (lay ol' August, ISTtJ.
I'liKsENT ; TliK Hon. A. H. iioCTiiiEK, .1. S. C.
BUASSAIUJ KT Ai..,
J^elittuimrii;
4ND
UoN. 11. L. LANGEVJN,
Drfiudant.
Evidi'iicc on thv part of Petilionrm.
I'Mouard .Simanl, aguil forly-tive years, t'arniei-, of tin- parisli nt' Baic St. Paul, liciiig duly
sworn ii|iou the Holy Kvaugclists doth dfjioM? and say ; I know tlu> [larties in tlii-, casi', 1 am
oSGO not iflatcd to or of kin to, or in the employ of any of tjiom. I am not intei-rsted in the evt^iit
of this suit.
Objeeted to by the Defendant as to the evidence of Aliel .Maltais. Objection reserveii
to the merits.
The Cure of our (lurish spoke of the election on some of the Sundays duiing the said
election. 1 was present at a seruion deliv.ied on the Sixteenth of Januiiry. 'There were a
great nuuiber of peo|)le in ehurcii. Prom wliat T understood ii(^ suiil that we ought to
vote tor the Conservative candidate. 1 did not understand that he wished to lay any sin on
that subject. ('Jn'H coiil'i.it nirttrr ilf /ifrlcf <i rr nnji't /a.) We can oblige pe(yi)le to do things
witliout im|iuting sin («{».'.• 7«'(7 // rti< />(r/(('.) Ho said that the revolutions which took place
3i570 in the old countries, had been cause<l by the Liberal [)arty, Jind that we should
not work to bring on the same revolutions.
1 think that hi.s aernion (iroduceil much ellcct in the parish, it was much spoken of I
think it clianged the electors. From what 1 miderstood lie spoke of falst! pro|ili(!ts ami false
Christs in tiie foilcnving nnuiuei' : l[r ^ai;! thai aiiiohg tii>- 0;ilididnieH tln're w;r^ .>iip wlio nought
to mislead, and that he wa.s a false prophet and a false Christ.
128
Crors-Examined.
Rv false j)iui)liets and false Clirists I vimlinstuoil tbe Cnvi wisixud to iK'signiite Mr,
Ti'Oiiiblay, because it was he wlio was the Liberal cauJidato. The (Jure iu speaking of falsn
prophets and of false Uhrists wtus riuikiug a ooni|)arison, aud I uuder.stuod by that tliat Ik^ wisli
3880 ed to designate those who wanted to mislead the electors, aud tiiose of the Lil)oral party.
The present de|iosiliou being reail to the witness he pei'sists iu the sarue, declares it cnu
tains the truth and hath signed.
KDOUAHD SIMAHD.
Taken and ^irani hri'i)ri' iiw at MtUhidi'. in open Cmtrt, this \)th Aaijnut, 1870.
A. B. ROUTHIER,
.1. s. u.
I
m I
I
p
PKOVINCE OF QUKBliC, t
D'mtili-I of Sd'jiieiKuj. )
129
SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTilOVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
3890 ElevtioH of II. xUanher lor llie House of Cutmiwnn for l/iu Kkctorid District of Churlevoix.
Malii.ue, the Dtu (lay of August, 1876.
Present :— Hon. A. U. Uouthieh, J. C. S.
No. 11.
BRASSARD et al.,
I'elitiuiiers;
vs.
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Defendant.
Evidence on the part of Pctilimivrs.
TLouuis Perron, ag(;il forty-two, faruiur, of the piui.sh of Baie St. Paul, liciug iluly
3900 «'>vorn on the Holy Evangelists, doth ik'i.ose and say : —
i know i ;• parlies in tliis cause. I am not related to or of kin to, or in tlie enii>loy
nicnt of any of iheni. I am not inteiested in the event of this suit.
I was an ek'ctor at the election in riuestiou, hut 1 did not vote. The reason why 1 did
not vote was because 1 did not wish to vote against the clei'gy, who were against the candidate
of my choice; that is to say, Air. Tremhlay.
Ol.jected to V.y the Defendant, as to the evidence of Abel Maltais. Oljjection reserved
to the merits.
The Cure of our jiavish spokc! several times about the el<!ction. When he e.xplained the
pastoral letter of the bishoiis, he said that that i.astoral hater strictly forbade any one to vote
3910 for a Liberal Catholic. He did not name them by their name, but lie said that there were
some of these Lilierals in the country, and lie made it understood that one of them was one of
the two candidates, 1 did not hear him say tliat it was a sin to vote for a Liberal Catholic,
but he said that it was a matter of conscience {.lu'on eluit ,n mmience) if we voted for him.
It was these sermo.LS of the Cure, and the fact that all the cures of the county were in favo.'
of the Defendant, which were the cause of my not voting.
I hear.1 the Defend.mt say publicly, at a meeting held at Celestin Bouchard's, at Baie
St. I'.'ud, that all the clergy supported him. I was not in church during the sermon of the
din-' mv house. After mass every one came back quite sad.
IGth of January ; I was
Many
tokl n.e that after that sermon they
thev did not know what to do. They said they did not
-*^
iiri|iFiiiiiii,.Hiji>MViWiVJLm,i.i
130
3920 Bcc tlioir way any moro to voti- foi Mr. Tremblay iiftcr micli ,\ jciiuoii an tlit? (Jure* Imil jiist
deliverwl.
Cbosm-Examined.
When 1 said tliiit the people returuod wvil after church, I moan four or live oli-ctors,
an<l [ cannot »ny if they voted YoH or No. Had there lieen two prieats iu the county for Mr.
Tremblay, I would have voted for liini. The snrnionH alone of Cure Hirois would not have
prevented me from voting for him.
Tlu^ preHcnt deposition being read to the wituesn, he jieraiHts iu the same, declarew it to
contain the truth, and cannot aigu.
3930
Taken mid sworn hejiyre mo, at Malbaii; ihiu \)th Jay oj Awjust, 1870.
A.. B. ROUTHIKH,
• J. 8. O.
IBi
II
ssmesmsmmmmmmmm
181
PROVINCE OF gUEHEC. 1 SUPERIOR COURT.
Outriet tjf Sagueniiy. )
DOMINION CONTUOVEUTKU KLECTloNK ACT, 1H7»
meclionof a .WemUr im- th,; I him.: of Comuw.cs r<^ the EUHoml Dintrkt of Cfuirkv<yix.
Mai-uaik, 'Jtli diiyof AugiiMt, 1870-
I'kesknt:— Hon. A. 15. Kouthikk, J. S. ('•
liUAbSAltl), KT AI...
Petitioner ».
3940 No. 14
vs.
Hon. 11. L. LANOEVIN,
Diftndant.
Kvidem-c on the jiart of Pelilionem.
William Harvey, agod forty-one, of the Pariali of St. Irenee, l«ing duly sworn upon the
Holy Evangelists, doth depose and Kay ;—
I know the parties m this cause. I an. not relate.l to, or of kin to, or in the eu.ph.y of
any of then.. I a.n not interested iu the event of thin suit. 1 was an elector, and I vote.l at the
election in (luostion.
The Ilev m. Hoy, Cur6 of St. Irenee, delivered a sem.on on the oleetion on S..nday,
3950 the 10th January. The Cur.^ did not say o,,e,.ly {franche vt) f-.r u-hon. we should vote Imt
1 un.le.stood hi.n. 1 undo.-stoo.l that wo should vote for the Defe...la,.t. Th.s is ..ow things
came to pass concuining this sern.on.
Objected to by the Defendant as to the evidence of Abel Malt.tis. t)bjection reserved
to the merits.
On the preceding Sunday the Defen.laut had come to hold .. meeting i.. the P-.Uic Hall.
He had spoken ,iui..tly, but .t seems that after the meeting son.e young n.en c.-eated d.ll.cult.t^.
We wanted him to s,,eak a second tin.e. The following Sunday, l^^fore mass, the C.re cau.e to
the .-ailing .baluMve), made those who were outside come iu, and declared that to pumsh us he
would only say a low ,uass. addh.g that after n.a-ss he would ascend the pulpit to speak o so..ie-
3960 thing else. That is what he did, a..d he w,is as ,uuch ...oved as before ,nass. He s.ud he W
not as vet Hpoken of the election, but that he would si^ak of it. He told us o take o 1 the
veil which we had before our eyes, and to open our ears to undeimand that whi.^ we had to
do He added, " I will see later whether you side with your priest." He said, " Here in your
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132
imrUh your party in HtiiiiiK, l>ut ^u to to tlii' other jiitriMlntH, niul you will wni tliiit you liavo not
uiiiuy |ifo|iU<" {/li.uiicinij) ik inonde). TIh-ho worj* wviv luMii'iHoil to tlii! |iartizuiiH of Mr.
Trt(iiil<luy, for Mr. Iiiiii((«>vin hml hardly any [lartizniiM in Mn' piiriHli, Tin' < 'urc liiil not Hiiy
for whoir ' ' •*■•*, Imt I undt'rutoiNJ that ho w«.s for ih* Dcfnmlant.
On th^ ICith, thti Oiirr', b-fon- mnm, r«|iroiiuh(Hl the i(arinhiomirH who were clcctortt for
8970 h.'i%iiix I°<'<>k'>'' "»(''■''' l"'''^'""** !^'<<tiia\, lie tolil thum that tu puniHh \\n for that Mcantlal he
would only Hay u low miiHtt. Hi- :>»J){j(«d of tho p«H)j)le to "o« [maoonlilo, and not to tlj^ht. After
mass the Cur6 again rdproacliRil tliem with tho fight of the praviouu .Sundiiy, and it woh after
that that lio Npokf of the veil before the oycH an 1 hofore said. TIuh Hornion priMluccd no ull'ect
on the jiartizaiis of .Mr Tjungcvin, l)ui it movud (a nn") tin.- |iarti/.uUH of Mr. Tnnulihiy. I wa»
one of Mr. Tremblay'H partiKatui.
Tho present dopoHitioii Mnu, reatl to tho witueHs, he jwrHiMs ni the sairio, declarus it
- contaiiiti the truth, and hit ii 8igno<l. ^
• rtlliAUMK HARVEY.
Tahiii iiiijI tiioiii to Ik fori' me in ojxiii lotoi, <u
3980
'Mit iif AwjuHt, 1 S70.
A. D. ROUT ilEll,
J. H. V.
'r —
1
)/'<Jj^Me^w.^i^m^
PROVINCE OF QUEBEC, )
District of Saguenay. I
133
SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
No. 14.
motion -I <i Member for the Ilmtse of C'omvwm for the Electoral Diilriel oj ( ■fiarlevoix.
Malbaie, the Ninth day of August, 1876.
Present ;— Hon. A. B. Routhier, J. S. C.
BRASSARD et kl.,
3990
Petitioners.
vs.
Hof^ H. L. LANGEVIN,
Defendant.
Evidmce on the part of Petitioners.
Joseph Boudreault, aged thirty two yeaw, fanrn-r, of the pariah of St .Hilarion, being
duly sworn tipou the Holy Evangelists, doth depose and say :-I know the parties in this cause.
I am not related to, or of kin to, or in the employ of any of th«ui, and I am not interested in
the event of this suit. 1 was an elector and voted at the election in question.
Objected by the Defendant, as to the evidence of Abel Maltais. Objection reserved to
408)0 ^^^ merits.
Ml. Langlais, the Cure of St. Hilarion, delivered a strnion on the election, the Sixteenth
day of January Uust. He said that those who wo.ild vote for the Liberals, that it would be
before us in heaven, that it was a sin (eela erail rend,, dam le eicl avant nous autres, ^pw
c'etait un perhe). I do not remember what kind of sin he said it was. He said that there
were two banners to follow, that of Victor Emmanuel and of Garibaldi, and that of our
Holy Father the Pope. He said that those who voted for the Liberals jirotested against the
priests and bishops and that they were Protestants. I do not remember anything else of that
sermon,
Nobody spoke to me of this .sermon, I have h.id no knowledge whether it changed
4010 the opinion of the electoi-s.
Cross-Examined.
The euro began by explaining the i.astoral letter, and trom ihe explaiiatu.us which ho
gave I understood what I said in ray exa.nination-in-chief.
r
^ft
134
Tlie cur6 spoke of Lihemlism ; he said that Catholic Liberalism is ooiKkiiuned hy the
church, and it was while speaking of Catholic Liberalism, that he spoke of sin. I ain certain
that he said that Lilx-rals were "protestants" {iiroUiUmtismes). I have but a vague idea
of this sermon, and for my part it did not make much impression on me.
The present deposition being read to the \vi),iips.s, he persists in the name, declares it
contains the truth, and hath signed.
4020 JOSEPH BOUDREAULT.
Taken and mvorn liefnre mr at .VaVmi' in oi>i'.h Court, thia !)t/i daij nf .linjnst, 1870.
A. B. R(3UTH1ER,
J. s. c.
I'UOVINCE OF QURBEC, 1.
Piafrirt of Sciiiwii'oj' )
135
SUPERIOR COURT.
DOxMINlON CONTROVERTED ELECTIOMS ACT, 1871.
MALiiAiK, 111'' Ni'itl' 'I'ly ■>♦' August. l.-^Tfi.
Present •.—Hon. A. 15. UoirniiEii, J. <:. S
4030
BllASSAlU) ET AL..
Pi-liliiiiiers ;
Hon. 11. L. LANGEVIN,
Defendant ;
Evidence on the part of Hie Petitioners.
Klavien ViUeueuve, aged forty years, fanner, of th. pa.lsU of 8t. lUlanon, l.eing duly
.worn on the llolv Evang«UstB, doth depose ,uid say : \ know ,l>e parties u. th,s causo. I an
:::,::: to, or o^ ^n t:, or . the enn-h. of .ny of then, and 1 a. ,>ot .nter.ted .n the ev.,nt
of this suit. 1 was not an elector at the election in -piestion and 1 did not vote.
^040 til^ected to by Defendant as to the evidence of Abel Maltais. t^bieCion reserved to
the merits.
Mr Langlais, (Jur6 of n.y Tarisb, spoke of the election sevend tunes, lie sj.uke of .t
• f thlDef-ulant 1 heard this sern.on on the Sixteenth of January. He sad
*:;:;;;ir;,,i :.:c:":'-""-"-- ■'■•■ — -,"■■" -'"■r:
t" " , , ...ribaldi He said that after our death .e would have to render an account of
"'VT''li:;i 1-^ '' --- ^^^ '-'- '-'"' vote for the Lib..al party
iind the priests. ne oam i" "'" ,11 1 \(rui-tli'it
■ 11 ; 1 tl,.,t til.. I ilieral-i were scandal bieedeni. Aliei tliar
4050 would connuit a gnevous su.. "e «.u U. t^ e Ld u ^ __^^^_^ ^^ ^ ^^^^^
sermon the difficulty took place in the public hall ah.i .Mas . > ^^^ ^^^^
there were some who fought. I cannot say if that .ermou chau.ed the op.no.. ..tsom ....
I do not busy myself with elections.
ifT'
-iit.
j j i ii i i ii ii i iW'MiaaKr ii ir j-i i i -iiMi i i i i y i
136
Cross-Examined.
'riici'c hail iicivc'i- homi any row ut tll(^ clpctions in our pliico before tliis tslnclion. The
(liffiiMilty whicli took jilaco in the pulniu hall waH the reHult of a (liHcussion whieli had taken
place liet uiMMi two I,il>crals ami two ( ,'oustsrvativeH. 1 \iuilt r.stotl that the LiheralH wertr Hcandal
broedera (</fs nc,iihlulfii.r), becauso the Cure was pi-eaehiny for tho ConscrvativoH, and that the
laberals would not listen to him. The (lure said that those who protested the o])inions of the
4060 priests and of the IJishops were Prntestauts (Pniti'Haiiliimes.)
1 cannot say who the Cure wished to i>oint out aa scandal breeders {'/« miiidaku.v), but
I know he nuide use of that word.
I swear that the cure said that those who would vote for th- Liberal jiarty would
commit a grievous sin, and those are the very words he made use of. I can not read nor write.
Questiim.-~-\)o you swear that the cnr6 said that the banner of the Conservatives was
that of the Pt)pe, and that the banner of tho Liberals was that of (laribaldi i
Antwer.—Yas, according to my knowledge he made use of those very words.
When the cure .said that after our death we should render an account of our having
been for the Liberals, and that then wa would wish to have been for the Pope and the bishops,
4070 I'c made use of those very words.
My sympathies at the last election were for the Liberals and the sennons of the cure did
not make any impression upon me.
Tho present deposition being read to tho witness he persists in the same, declares that it
contains the truth and can not sign.
Tnhcn and si-om to be/ore me, at Malhuic in o/ien Court, t/ii.i 0th of Awjuxt, 1876.
A- B. ROUTHIER,
J. s. c.
f:
i'ROVINCE OF QUKBKC, |
DUlriet (>/ Sayuenny. )
187
SUPERIOR COURT.
4080
DOMINION CONTllOVEUTKD ELECTIONS ACT. 1874.
MAi.nAiK, tLoniuth .lay of August. 1S7<..
I'UUSENT
-IIoN. A. 15. UouruiKU, J. !^- <J'
liUASSAllD KT AL.,
No, 1-1.
tdilioiMi.
vs.
Hon. U. L. LANGEVIN,
Defendant.
E,i,lmce on the imrt of the Petitio.wrs.
r T:::;::r ' r St- ■ :t f:: :::.:j -. «- - ' «
interested in the event of this cause.
o,.o«a .0 ,„ .he D.r»a.,. . » «» .-*«» .f a-' «.'• '*■-"" — '
to the merita. r- f
, .. .n elector, a., voted at t.e ..election THe ^^^^^^^2 —
St. Hil« ...e of t.e election in t.. j; i^ ^ ^^ 1:;:;:,^ I "- tUe „.
. but I wa« in-esent on the occasion of In. ' '" ^ -° ^,^,^ ,,^„,,,,, ,, foUow-the
delive.-ca on the Sunday hefore the votu.g. le a>d th e ve .^ ^^ ^^.^^ ^^^
4100 one Cor Ennnanuel and Gar.baldi, and the other the o, • ^_^^^_^^^^^^^^ ^^_^^^ ^^^^
,iae with the priests and the l.ishop. .e suu.ed njo.U ^U ^.e ^^^^ ^^^^^_^^^^^_^^ ^^^
«ide of the Bishops and the Pope was the 1 ue ^^^^ ^^'^^^^ ^^^ ^,^^ ,,,, ,f Jeath. He
.aid something in reference to w^.at ^^^ ^^ wl.^'^X.r of the Pope would have
«aid that at that mo.nent those who would 1"^- ^^^^ J^^ ^^^^^^^ ,,..i Uaril.aldi
a ,ood place, and that tho. w^wo. -^ ^^-^^^^1, ,., ,_ .... ,o to hell,
v^ould have a bad place. I undcistooU uio ,,„„,/„/.,u). Woe to hi.u by whom
He said also that the Liberals were scandal-breede..""^^ ^^^^^^^ .^^^
.andal cona.. Thi« .r.non produced a |;-;;;^'2:^r^i^ ll-onJ of the elccton..
trouble (mm«to). It is not to u.y knowledge that It chantea 1
Iroop
*L-.-..,
IR'v
4110
CROKi vAMINKO.
Till) Mormou oauHetl ■^,' .■. tioiiMo {itimuU')< i" '
four fouK'lit ill the iml.lic hull. ThttHe four per* w i
lining excltpil liy the Curi''n (t-rmoii. The Cure Htti'l
becauBO they iiomnciited religion.
iiuopU "■ uiit of >.liuii;li, mill
[• 14 di'i on o» politicH, ivml
I, . |,ii„ • scauilttl-hrooilt«rn,
I ,lo net r..ni.M,>l,.M all the Mrraon. I ouly roiiioml..u rhu j.. .ii.u|wl thi.iKK. Hom.l.-H
what I huv(! juNt rohitu.l, I do not rumoinhor luiy oth.ir part of the Hertuoii.
'H... prrsHit ,l..poHition l«HUf. imul to the witncHS, he ii-.^istH m tho nam,., .Inclareh it
ccntainH tlio truth, ami cannot sign.
T,th„ ivul ^inn, before «w in open Court, (U Malbaie, this 0th An.juM, 1876.
4120 A. B. ROUTiilEK.
J- a. c.
13'J
,uoviNC'F. oi.- giKHKC. ^ SUPERIOR COURT.
nutrkt of Siiyumay. I
IJUMINI.IN i;oNTWIVKllTi;l> KLKrlloS- MT \'U
„.«-..—' .' "■ *■ •'-'"• ■■'^•"■-
MaUiaik. ytl. .layof Au«UHt, l^iTf.
,.,,,KNr. -iloN. A. 11. l;..LT>>'^-". J- «• ^'
4130
BU VHSAKD K.T AL.,
I'ltitionevn ;
VR.
Hon. U. 1.. I ANGEVIN,
[iefi^mlant.
Emhnce on Ihn port oj the Petitioners.
k ' • of the PiiiiHl' of Biiie St. I'lml.
Pien-e Dani.'lsou, bo>,, ago fovtylivo >;'';7' ^ ';;^"";^,i ' " ,_[ know tho ,.u-Iu-h in ll.i«
l,ein« ,lulv .won. ou th. Holy Kvaug.l.ts. .lotl. ''"I'- "^ ^f,,. ,,.„„, j „. ,,. iutwesU.l in
1 , .;. not ..i,aoa to, o. of kin to, o. ^;^^-^l^Z^n. . tUo .aU, ...tion, I cau-
the event of this suit. I hea. a s.-.d. ,^ ^ .,.^,,^,^,„ ,,,, ,. to it in .11 the s,>,.c^-s
„„. .collect an ho ^^^^^^^^ ::Z:^ U-at it W. wiso. to „o ..n the s... o. tho
auving ^';-'--';;^,^^'^ , 'Z^ ,„„^,.,.a tho C;onso..vativo „any.
4140 clergy and ho .saul th.t ch gy H ^^^. ^^^ _^^^^^^^^^
Ohjeetoc. to i.y tho Oefenaa.t-.s to ovhlonco ol V.,o, M.^t.u
to tho merits, . , n. „f (nnuaiv- H''
. „. .„,,.. .. . ..™». .-«■•- ■■' :;:r ;,,:.;-; --»» ^ ■'■• -—
4150 8° ''"" lo ""
number of votos.
140
At the lieginiiing of the sermon, the Cure naiil not to allow anyone to speak t'roni tlie
tribinie (rostrum, i On the public place. It wiin he who made the speech.
Cross- Examined.
The Cure did not say that the pastorii! letter of the Bishops' was in favor of the Con.
servatives, but from his explanations, I very clearly understood it to be so. I was one of Mr.
Tremblay's partizans.
The jirpsont deposition being load to the witness. He persists in the same, declares ij.
contains vhe truth and hath signed.
4X60 PIERRE DANIELSON, jiln.
Taken and sworn befcyre ine in open Court at Malhaie, llrLs \Uh Amiunt, 1870.
A. B. ROUTHIER,
r
,^'
s
MT
CE OP QUEIJEC, 1
trid of Saguenai). f
I'HO' iNCE OP QUEBEC,
PiMri
141
SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVEliTED E(.ECriONS xVOT, 1S74.
/•;/<■<■//-.» ,;/• „ M.mh'rior tlw llom>- of i'ommm, lor the Hhrlonil DUtrid .>( Cluirl,-n,i.v.
Malbajk, the lltli 'lay ot Au-iHt, IBTti.
L'EEaENx:— Hon. k. 13. UouimiiK, J. S. 0,
4170 No. 14.
BUAStSAliD ET AL.,
I'ttilioiiers,
Hun. H. L. LANGEVIN, C. B.,
Defendant.
Evideim im llw part of the. Petilionm.
Vklal Harvey, agea sixty-seven, far.nor, of tlu, Pansl. of .VlaUndo, l.-iug July swo.u,
.loth depose >uul say :-l know the i-arti,. in this case. I a,n not relato.l to, o.- of Ian to, o. >u
the en.plov of auv of then. 1 a„. not int..,-..stc.a in the event of this s.ut. I svas :.n electo.
4180 au.l voted' at the election in question, I know Joseph Stanislas P-.-rau t Es,,., Vdvoc.te ot
Malhaie. On tl>e day before the voting he can>e to n>y house aeoonq-anu-d by Mr. -John van-
now deceased, and asked n>e if I was always in favour of Mr. Joseph Kane whon. 1 h el
requested to co„>e forward. 1 answered yes. They told n>e that Mr. Ivane had ,.ven up In.
p,L to Mr. Lan,evin, after having b..en over to the Hay ; and, as it was tor the san.e party I
Lid I would be in favor of Mr. Lattgevin. They told n.e that it was better to vote tor ,1...
Conservative candidate, because we should follow the clergy. That was also ,ny optnton.
The Defendant declares that he has no cross-questions to put to the witness.
The present .leposition having been read to the witness, he persisted in the san...
declares that it contains the truth, and cannot sign.
.4190 Taken and .worn before me, a, Mhaie. in o,,.n Court, ihi. ^)ih of .1 .;/..«, 1^7.i.
A. P.. IIOUTHIKK,
J. s. c.
m,
142
PROVINCE OF QUEBEC, ^ SUPERIOR COURT.
District of Saguenay.
\
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
Election ot a ,mmhtr for the, lloust of Common for tlie, FJectond Diilrirt of Charletmbc.
Maluaie, Uth day of August, 1876.
Peesent : — Hon. A. B. Hoiituieu, J. S. C.
No. 14
BRASSARD kt. al.,
4200
Petitionem ,
VB.
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Defendant.
Evidence on the part of the Petitioneri.
Narcisse Lajoie, aged forty-seven, blacksmith, of the (.arLsh of St. Hilarion, being duly
sworn on the Holy Evangelists, doth depose and say :—
I know the I.a.tie8 in this cause. I am not related to or of kin to, or in the employ of,
any of them. I am not interested in the event of this suit. I was not an electo> at the la.t
election.
421 Objected to by the Defendant, .« to the evidence of Abel Maltais. ( )hjectio>i reservo.l
to the merits.
During the whole time of the election Mr. Lauglais, the Cure of St. Hilarion, spoke of
the election from the puli.it every Sunday more or less . Tiie Sunday o.i which he spoke most of
it was on the 16th January last, the Sunday before the voting. On the preceding Sun.lay he had
told us that he wouhl exi.lain for which party we ought to side with. He e.Kphuue.l it to us. He
told us that *e should not follow the Liberal party. He said that Liberalis.n in politics and
Liberalism in religion were one and the same thing. One could not be without the other. He
told us that it would be a grievous sin to vote contrarily to the explanations he gave us. He
told us that Victor Emmanuel and Garibaldi wore Catholics. He explained Liberalism first.
4220 He said that they had pe.-secuted religion. He represented {rerre.enle), two l,aun(Ms-the one
of the Pope, of the bishops, and priests, and of God, asking us ; " Which do you w.sii to tollow
-this one, or theone of Garibaldi and Victor Emmanuel (" He .lid not speak of the coloui-s ot
the banners. He added that there were Garibaldians in the [.arish, but luckily they were few
in number. He did not name anybody, but we were quite at liberty to understand that he
meant to speak of thosr. whom we name Liberals. He told us that at .leath we would prefer
4230
4240
4250
4260
toUl us ll,:.t. M.|.l"«iHK our |,a.l..,s wouM U'u I n, n o ,,u„.ns . , .^.ousiM-
: u 1: :: n. ju- ..i ... ,.^..0,.... w... ... ....... ... u.. ..,.,.„ ...>.. . . .....;.
Tl..n. w.,v .0,... u.1,0 wca out .l..,h.« the so,..,.,. ..,. ,..o,.....t oi tl.o so.„,o . •-'--"
; . ..„.,.C t...t s....,..o.. i,. t..e ,.a..ish, a..4 it p.-o,l.c.. a ..ct ,,,.,..-...o„. -'-
it Lad th... dlWt of cl.a,.,i..g o,.o.tl.ira of the votes of tl... ,.av.sl. ... tavo.. o, tl.o 1 .. .. .ula..,.
CROSa-EXAMINEU.
f ,U.. 1 ,•„■. l.-i.l ,-l,i...'."(l on,Mlii.-.l of the fl.-cto.-s, 1 fo...i(Ua
WliiM. I Slid t hat t ii'si'.Mio.iot tl.o lot,, l.aa i,.iaii.vu "II
after the sermo,. i„-onou..c.Ml o„ that ,U) • '^ >^ ^ U..io,.a ...t - -afl.M^wa.as lhi,-ty^
Defe,.aa,.. n,.io,-o that ti„.o we co..,.t...l hut ten vot.-s '- '^ ......vatlvo
„„e. Eve,. hol...e the 10th, o..e ...civ.l that ^'- P^n -.^ ^ "^ ;„„. ,.,...
Hhle, hut the streugth of the party wa. le.s la.owu tha,. altc
;,„,l„.l. , ,.ot true that o,. the s..tee..th of ..a..ua,, th.. ,,oUt.ca. .art.es we.e
oousideied as toru.ed at St. llUariou 1 , , • •,
,,...„._.e.re the sixteenth of ..ry the Lihera, .arty ^^^^^^^Z^,
i. the parish, h..t after the sern.ot. we ■ perceived we were .,. a .,.uu.U ^ ^^^^^^^^ „.
,ave tl.. 1 «.y U,at the cha..ge wl.i.h took ph.e Uetweeu ^ '; - _^ ^ =' ^^ ^^^,..,.^,,
sixteeuth of Ja..ua.,. a,.d what existed afterwa..ds was caus.l -.y ^^^^^^ ,,
It Wiethe peoph. the„.selves who toKl ,..e that att.. th. ^^^ ' ^'^ ^^^^^^ ^^ ,,^.,^^,^.
vote (0. the Lii.erai I'arty. L oau,.ot ..a.ue a,.y ot the pe..ous ^"^ ^ ^^ ^^.,^,;, , ,,,
, „,,ht ,.a...e so...e who had toUl ,..e so ...o.-e tl. s.xU.uth ^^^^^^'^J ^^^^, ,
.au.: Btieu..e Des,ag,.ers. TousBa.ut l..-gero.. ^""^l^^Z^', ^^'^ ...lerltood so
Gilbert. The (Ju.e did ..ot say we should ..ot tollow the L.bc.al Fa.„>,
fro... his expla,..itio..s. ^^^.^^_^,^ .
,.,.,s//o.,-l'le.se say what ...akes you ......euihev that th C..,e
S LV.rd ai.d Zepherii, Bergerou were the,, preseut.
Uuriug'the electiou the., was a d..lieulty .u tl. .-^^J;;--; ^^^tX
„,,ke his visits with the chu.vh-warde,, ,u el.a.-ge in.a.nullu en .ka,,.).
ditUcltv existi..g at the ti.ue to ...y k..owledgo. , ,.„, ;,
;„. ,„:.,. ,.„-.. *... », » .„.,.™,-, ,»,--' i..*> ■'■■«'""
coi.tai.,s the truth, a,.d hath sig..ed.
NA.KCISSK LAJOlK.
-'. — -'■»" "' •' ■"""-'■ '" "' "" '"" ":;: .;ou'rK.EK,
J. s. c.
144
PROVTNCK OF QURBEC, I SUPERIOR COURT.
4270
VTNCK OF (jUKBEf!, I
llitlriit of Siuidf'Hd!/. )
DOMINION CONTllOVEHTED ELKCTIONS A.CT, 1874.
Elirtiiiii of (I MimhriJ'„r iIk' lloii.i,' of Cniwums fur llir l\l,rl,<ral District of I'harlfeoix.
Maldaie, Tuiith August. 187«.
Present ; — Hon. A. B. Uodtuieb, J. S. C.
No. 14.
BRASSARD kt al.,
I',Hl.,
vs.
Hon. II. L. LANGEVIN.C.B.,
Def.
J 280 Knikitce on the part of the Petitioners.
Jean Baptiste Gauthier, aged .'55, fanner, of the Parish ..f St. Iren6e, being .luly sworn,
floth depose and say ; —
I know the parties in this case. I am not vlated to, or of kiu to, or in tiie (uniiloy of
any of tlieni. I am not interested in tiie event of this suit.
Objected to by the Defenchmt as to the evidence of Abel MaltaLs. Objection reserved
to the merits.
I was an elector, and voted at the election in (luestion. -Mr. Roy, (.'nr6 of our Parish,
spoke of electioiw at church the 10th January, during mass. He told us that he would not
sing a high mass, in order to pu.iish us for the row which had Uiken place on the previous
4290 Sunday. He did not speak of elections at that moment. He tol.l us that he would tell us
what was to l-e said about it after mass. He seemed to be ve.y displeas.4 at that moment.
There was but a low mass. After mass he told us, " There are some amongst you who wish to
know my opinion. 1 will make it known publicly. I am of the (Jonservative party, aiul you
"should also belong to it." He added, -See elsewhere; at the Eboulemeuts the jmople are
" enlightened, .and are going to follow the cl.n-gy. Blind that ye are, open your ears, and open
" your eyes ; lift the veil wliich covers them, and in conscience you should also do so, and after
" the election we will see if you love your priests, au.l if you lik(! to follow them." He added
that he saw by Qur school children what respect wo had for one another. Tiiey call e.ch other
names, eveii call e".ch other rottrn bol!i<!s (viiitrM poitrris). Well, as I belong to that party,
I I
^^H
145
*^ ' n.UK.W wl... call..,l .!,.• i.lu.. n-.t-n l.ll>,. (" - ,r.. ,...,ri.'-, Tl on... ...y ll..- M
,,.,l,L'-l,l.u.H"ur...hn('ouK..rvnt.v.H. H. h,...,,,.-! w.y n.-l. .liH,.l...s.,.l wh.u I- n..,l,. tlmt
HiKji-oh. 'I'hiTO waw a i{mit (l.>al mii.l of (Lis sorn.o.i in ih.> pannh.
Cbosh-Kxamined.
Th.. CuK. «ai.l that iM.waH «,vi,.K a l.nv nmss to |,unMh ll.' ih...,,!.- fn,- li.l.tinK on iho
.viottH ......lay. I HUppoHO hu. an,, l. (tl. (.h.r6, oxLorte,. tlt-m not to .i,l,t a.a.n _ A...-
mass tl».(Jn.v«aM-You fiKl.t Immv in tin. paml, l,....anH.. yun tinnk you a.v st.on«. Hn^
:;;:2':uni:r .> t.... iJ:...^ ........... ; U a.U.oa. .. ^.-k ....wlt..re-tho ,.a.ty t t
08 Strong."
4310 QueMnn.-U it not l,u« ll,at tn tl.al s.-nnon tl.., Our6 .-eproachea Honv of tlx- Lil.oralK
for l,avin« con.c to l.i. Parsonage (Pr..l>yUr.) to say that th. (-ons.rv.tlve party wan ro.t.n ?
A,^wer-\ .li,l .mt n,>.l..r.tan.l that, Uut h. .pok. as I above stafM al.ont th. .hihln.n.
Oue.Uon.-U it .tot true that th. ot.ro sai,l. "until v I hav. not n,..l,U.M vvitl.
cicctiotts hut since p..oplo cona- into n.y ,.ars<m.«. i,.r,.l>!,tM to say that tho ( on.erw ttv.
;X !- rotten par'ty, . wi.i now toll you, to what party I i.olong, I a.u a Con..ervattvo,
.l,<.,«er.-i do ..otretnotubortltat; that peoph, went to Itis parsonage (,,r,.6,v<«r.) to
«,.ak «uc.t ttottHonse ilui aire ,: l.ti.e. U.) The cure said that .. a rule the •«■'>. <->;-;
ich a,.a did not respect otte another. I swear that Che cut. .sa.d that tn conscten. w i o.
bo Conservative, hut he did not say that we should «ive a (Jonservattve vote, at tty Id
4320 not retnetuher. The cure Baid we .utt.st he l,lin.l not to see tl-t ^ --""' '" l-'>
stronger, lie called us blind. The cure ,lid not say " nty party" (Moa ,„r„c.)
The present deposition bein. rea.l to the witttess, he persists in the san.e. declares that it
contains the truth and hath signiid.
.JKAN BAPTISTE GAUTIIIKU.
Take,, arul ..om befogs .ne at Malbaie, in open Court, this UHh ,lay of AnyuH, 1876.
A. B. ROUTIIIKR,
J. a. c.
U6
PUOVINCI-; OF QUKHKC, I SUPERIOR COURT
Hitlricl i\f Snumniiij,
4330
r)OMINI()V CONTUOVKIITKI) KLKt'll•)^fH ACT, MTl.
h'Ifrliiiii i>l ii M'liihff for llir lliiuxf nf ('i)iiiiniiii.^ for llir Rli'rtoriil Piilrirl of Charlrroir.
Maliiaik, tniitli 'lay of AiijjuHt, MTti,
i'HEHKNT : — liiJN. A. It. UoiITIIlKR, J. 8. 0.
BUA8HARU kt ai,.,
Pftitionen ;
V8.
HON. I[. L. LANOKVIN,
/)ifi')i(liiiii.
Efiilenir on the purl of the Pelilionem.
4340 Oiltiin-t lioiR'liaiil, afjoil forty-iiiiii-, t'airina', of tlio |)aiisli of St. Irciiii', liciii'{ duly sworn
on tho Holy EvangeliHtH, doth depoHO and »ay : — I know tiie paitii's in tliis caiisi-. I iim not
related to, or of kin to, or in tho oniplo" nf any of thi^n. 1 am not intorosttsd in the event of
thlH '
Jlijooted to by tiie Defendant a.s to llio eviil.'ni^o o( AIh'1 Maltais. Ohjectiun reserved.
I M'xs an (deotor, i id voted at the elejti'Hi in (jiiestior.. Mr. Roy, th(! Cure of our
parwh, tho last Sunday s'|)oko of tho election lioforo tho voting, tho sixteenth of January I
believe. Befoi-e raiws he said there would liii no hiijh mass on aeeount of tlie seaiichil tliat haU
taken place on tin' jax'vious Smulay. He did not explain to which scandal he alluded, but
he said there had i>t^en a row (i(u train) on the precedinj^ Sunday in the eviiiinj{, at a nie('ting
4o50 of Mr. Laugevili's in tlie public hall, at which ineetinj,' Mr. Langovin hud wished to speak.
Mr. I.angevin had in fact spoken at that niei^ting. He had not be(!n inti'rniptod. The first
time bespoke some pi-ople inath; a slight noise (dns imlitn bridl.is), but li(! was not prevented fioni
speaking. Mr. 'I'l-emblay was not i>resent at that meeting. 'Wi'x-r was no stringer to rojOy,
but (iermain Lajoie, farmer, of the parish, made a reply. It was when the 1) •fendant tried
t<i Hlieak a second time that there was troubh^ Troubles of tiie same kind hail alri'ady taken
place in she pariHh some yeara pre\'ious during election times. I am not aware that it
pr.tvented high mass as usual.
Vfter having made all the pople co;a» into the church, th? Cur6 anno nic*! I, as I sai I,
IJuvt tiioi'o wouhi bo iio higii masw, and that after the low niass hu would explain tlit; pastoral
^
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147
4360 lott..,of,l.. ny,.,M,t lustautunn,. •rhisp.s.on.l l.tu. s,,uko of tl. Lil"'..!. ''^•;'- ";-'';;;;
low ..... Ho as.vu...l .1.0 ,..lpit as I.e ,..1 ...ounooa. lie .,. -I '-"'-^ ^^ ;, ;^
M.a.yea,...,o, y ■ oye. U.a. yo,. ...ays,.. ^^'»"-'>-- "-"'-^ f^^ i^, r^:
tho Ei.o..U.„.o,.ts a...l yo,i will see tl.at you a.o ..ot a. st.o.., the.. «-^'l' -> J '^'^
,,.,„,,,., a.v enli.hto„oa : they ...i-.d the voice of th i.. Ou.e. Yo.x shouhl heloug to the a^ne
L. V as VO.U- ,...ie„ts. If you h.ve,l yo..r p.^iests yo.. wo,.hl foUow tho pa.ty of you,- ,..-.e,ts
H.' LiU -'You wa..t to k,.ow to what ,.a,-ty year ..riest. Uelo..,. ri.ay .lo .u,t ..e,o,.g to you,
liaity."
The hulk of the electo.-s of St. I.v„6e wo.-e of Mr. T.e.uUlay's pa.ty. I ;un not a well-
4370 educate,, .uau. . eaunot exactly «ay what he said. I cauuot .-ecoUeot ,f l.e sa.d . was . .n
a..d a „.atte.. of couscieuce (oa. ./. C.....C, to vote a ce.taiu way --,;-; ;;';;;J^';:\,
kuow he said •' 1 will kuow well o.. Satu.-day if I a,n hsteued to. The ^^^^^
H,i„aay. ...said that the school hoys wee .... a.^ that ^^^^H^^^;^:
pavtizaus .-ottou bellies of Bh.es (■' c,:..ln's j,oums dc hlo^s ). 11. aUacd
insult your Cure, who belongs to that pa.-ty."
Cross- Examined.
I was o..e of Mr. T.-e.n.day's supporters. '1 ne Cure explained that the scandal wa. the
,-ow which ha.l taken place o.. the preceding Sunday.
U,^.tion-ls it not t.-ue that ,vt the n.eeting of which you have spoken d,e.-e were
4380 sevcal p^rdrunU, and a,noug othcs, ,-is Uauthier, son of A.hroise, who .nte....upted
the l)efe,.da..t consta.itly, wlule ..e spoke the tu'st tm.e.
,„,,,,_ Yes- he was drunk (en trau..) He ...ade so...e ,.oise i,,ul,a.'^ yrs)
„ • ■ ,11 he w.shed to sav. I did not notice if it was ..ecessa.W to put o,.t of
,.„t Mr. ..angev.,, sa,d all . w ..1, d to ..y^ ^^^ ^^^_^^^^^ ^^^__^^^ ^^^.^^
tlie hall the said b\an.;ois Oauth.ei'. All tliat l
,......-Is it not tr..e that after low n.ass. the t..r. exhorted the people ,.ot to
light 1
Annwnr.—YcH.
,„..o..-Is it not tr,.e that the C... ex..orted the people ..ot to tight at the poll. a.u.
tl,„t he would see ..ow he would l.e liste.ied to i
4390 ir..er.-^l^ did not say that in .•eA>re..ce to fighting, hut in .•cierence to his ser,..on.
,.„,,,,.._- Is it ..OC t....ethat t..eCu.-c said that if the people co..tinued to tight l.e
would leave the parish, and would ,nake a report of it to the hishop,
.l„s,r«r,--He ...ay have said so, hut I do not recollect.
Uu,.Ciou.-l>^ it not true that the Cu.. co,..plai..ed, because son.e had bee., to his
parsonage to insult the Oou8ervativ(! party.
Answer.— I do not recollect.
k
letter?
148
Questicm.~Do you swear that on the sixteenth of January the Vnri- r.wl the pastoral
iwuw.— Yea. He cxpLimcil it, but 1 cannot remember liis explanations.
4400 Tlie present dejioHition being read to the witness, he iiersists in the same, dechires it
contains the truth and cannot sign.
Taken mil nworn he/on nw al Malhaie, in o/ien ( 'duiI, this lO'/i ''".'/ ';/' Auijunt, 1870.
A. B. ROUTHIER,
J. 8. i;.
^
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11'.)
■IIOVINCKOFQUKHKIJ,! SUPERIOR COURT
DOMINION CONTllOVHltTHl) KI-K'TI'»NS V'T M7 1
4410
Phesknt:— Hon. A. 1?. Untniii:
■.II, .1. S. (■
BKASSAIM) KT Ai,.
J'etitioni'rs ,
Hon. M. L. l-AN(il':VlN,
hWiihncv on («c part ,<f th, h'titionen.
Kphve.. U.,uon, a,o thi.-ty-ou.. y.u., ,..,,..,...,■, of ,h. ,..,. of 15... S,. .■,u,l. .<nu.
,,.,ly sworn ou thu Holy Kvaug.lists, .lotl. .lepos. ...1 say :-
■ , ■ I .„„ „„l ,vl itcl to or of kin to, or in tiio oniliioy
I know the ,.artu.s ni Uw. ca,s... 1 an, not . 1. tnl .. ^^^^^
r::\::r::™::"v,. , ..>• --^ - - ^
T„„ ,„»...« ,».. " •■■■> '.^ »'':/'■■ ri::"';;:'r;!ts;:v::r"',
, ™ .,k„a .. .,. .. .i.». '■■"« "^; "-i " ■ """:;„': ,, ,... » .
.»-- ~: ' ■;; ';::";.:::L:n;i:x„ L.i:" ... .1... ».- -^ - • ■:■
him to speak go u,,. i h. IXt.nU.uu | ^ ^^^^^ ^^^^^^_^ ^^^^^.^^^^^ ^ ^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^,,^^. „
"-:;:r:::™™rr:.,:rri ■-.
ami lialjiliints vuliiolos.
Th. Dotomhua ,l...larc. that h. has uo <:ros. -lUeMions U, pu'
■ "2
150
T1.0 pn..ut ,l.r-ition being .vael to M. wit-.... h. p.T.mt. u. the ..c,u. au,l <l...-la.-.
contains the truth iiml hsUh signed.
KIM[RKM (iA(lN()N,
fiik'-n ami swvrn lo before me in op'
rn Coar, at Sialh<ue. tim Mth day of Aujast, I87(i.
A n. ROUTHIKR,
J. s. ('.
161
4440 PROVINOK OF tjUKBKr,!
SUPERIOR COURT
D»
miNloN ((.NTHOVKilTKl. KLKCTIONH A("r, lM7t.
MA1....MK, tl.B T.ntl, .Kv of August, lH7t..
I'KKSENT ; -Thk Hon. A. IV Uoith.kk, •). S. (!.
BKASSAllD ET AL.,
The Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Petilioiinrn.
Uejerulant.
4450
Evidence on behalf of PMmu-rs.
u„o.i the Holy Evangelistn, .lotl. .ls,.ose a.ul say :
,1 .„u ueithev veiaiion, nor of kin, lu.r Hoivant or
'r '";:;"- ;-"«-"»' •■""""■'"""■
(lomostic toany of llie luilitJ'-
...» .■"■"•7;r':rrr;:,l^:-.=--^^^
Uefcnauntattlu.Cl,u.vhaoovot '^'"'^ ^\ . '^j^^ ^i..,, . ,wth the clergy tho.o is nothing y.t
,,ia : "Mow can Mr. Tron>i.lay cou.e ^^^:^J;^^ ^,,,,, ,w«y arc on-cd to Lin,.'
'''' h,stca. He always gave it to •—;;.-;' ::;;;;:• ,. -.. iV U^-. votc.l ..r .
outhissuhjcct, hut there were some U.otuuea >
^^''"'"'' , , ,. , ,i„, l.st riun.las before the voting ; I was that
I ^Uc. noc hear the ser.uon he ^^^^^^"^^^ „,;,, ;,„.,.,.ion in the parish. 1
dayatMalbaie This sermon appeared to me to c
,etnn.e.l on the Tuesday. _^ .^ ^^^^^^^ ,, , ^^^^^^^,.^, ,,,, ^
Ou n.y return, n>y dang ter .n-law <;^^^ 'J^J^ \,, „,,, u.ere. you yourself
.This cannot he," she s.d..^t.as.^ ^^^^^^^^^ .. ^ ,.., ,
44To;^:;r^'wS:ri:;:--^..nhadheenti^^^^^^^
I
[')'2
I loim^l nut ,11 >\ n -;iiii,^.mI , lumy ..'liirnxfl, Dtlicin M'\ >v>l v.l-. I c.ui.l ....i ,ay li.iw many
«.'i-fli,iii;,'i'.loi |.ivwiif.l fiMiii voting', Ilii.l not spukiMi U> ill 111"' 1 |il>'. I'lil' I Imtl well
iimny, ami my lu'lict' wiw that Mr, Tromblay woiil.l liavo lia.l oiif IiuihIiihI vdU-h miijonty lu
tlio |>am!i, ami In' w.n in a luiiw.rity of our huMln'a aii.l tliii;y, I h-\\w>: I wan coiiti.l.Mit ()»
this maiority of on ■ liu:i In-<1 l.-fiiv tli.' m.tmiou. Afl.'i- tli- soniion, 1 saw lint il lia.j Ih'-ii
gi-i'utly .UminiHh.'.l, Hoin- toM .no ; - I |-n>f.'i not votiti;;{, I aui ufraul ; tho pii.'Ht.s pifiliotiMl to
UHmixfortilli'M," I tolcUli.MU Hut.' w mo ivhoii ., . I.h friijI.l.m.Ml -l.i.l I coaM not i .■aHsuro
thum. Tlil-n- wm«i Hoiue wlio w.T(. for Mr. TromMav aii.l wh.. aft.;r tin- Hta-moii, vot.-.l aj,'aiii>it
Ijim ; Homt' of tlu'in loid mi', ami sonu' of llii-ai caim' lirrd as wilii'-si's.
4480 L'KOHS-KXAMINED.
VVhcii the IMeii.lanl s|.ok.> of tl,.' .^l.-r-y, \v^ M.so.l (In- v.ay ^-xiavH.sioi. I usf,l tiiysrlf iu
my cxamiimtion, iii clii.'f. WIm'i. 1 hUUA tl.ero won. somo wiio f.Mro.l to In, ,lamm-.l,
if'tlu-y vot.'.! for a l.iiwral, I i.iwiii to say that som,3 woruou t,)M me liun' lU.l not want
tl.oir i.uslmu.ls to voto for a lAWml iH.ea.wu they foar.Ml ll,..y would l,c .Innu.-.l. I .lo not
i-omemlKjr if anv m-'U tol.l mo ho. 1 took soim) part in tho .O..ction Uut not uuuh. I can...
once at Mallaic to sec how thin-s wcro -oin- on. Tli.. priests had not sai.l that inisfortuuoH
svonl.l hapiH.u to thoso who wouhl vol.- for the Lilu.ml party, bu( som.. fcaro.l such n.isfortu.H.s
woul.n.api.cu tlwrn -hut it w.u, souw youna nieu who tohl mo that Ihui.' f..lks ware af.a..l.
Only on., yonn- n,au toM n... this, 1 can uan». hut Octavo Sin.ar.l, witncs.^ h.uir.l iu ihls cause,
4490 who t<jl.l mr ho ha,l mo.Ulica his ..pinion iu ronsciueuco of tho Curi.'8 sermon. I hcanl it
statoJ by many others, hut th.sy .li.l not say it to mo.
Mr. Onfeinic ( Uiuthier'H supporters w.^n- partly those of tho D.'fcn.lant.
Re-Examised.
\\'l„.n .Mr. (iauthi.ucanic forwai.l as cau.li.late, ho «• as partly sustaintM hy the Liberals,
Tho present .leposition being ira.l to the witn..ss h." |M>rsists therein, .leelaiin^- it to
.•ontalu the truth and cannot si^pi.
rahr. .ml .s-rer,, /Were „„■ m .,"•" <'""'■'' "' ■'^""""■"' "'" "'""' ''"•'' "' ■*"^""' "*^'''
A. U. ROUTUIEE.
I !
15S
iGoo inoviNTK oi- grKBKd,. SUPERIOR CoJRT.
IMii.C of Siijurmy \
DOMINION CONTHOVEKTEl) ELEV3T10NS ACT, 1874
Malhaik. thuj loth of Aufenist, XHUl
PllKHKNT :— UON. A. B. ROUTIIIKII, J.S. C.
J
No. U.
4)10
UUASSARD -T AL.
Pelitionert:
n.
Hon. U. L. LANOEVIN.
Defendant.
F.ri.hwr <w the ,,a,t nf the Petitiouen.
1 1 nf tl... niirish of St. InMioo, fanui'i . tx-ing duly
F.T.liimn.l Tioinl.h.v, tifty-a.x yeai-s oM, of tl.. pa.isi.
.worn v>i,ou tlu- Holy Evan«..liHt«. .loth aq.o«e aiul say :-
, Unow the ,aHi..s i.. U.is .... . not rolatcl nor alHea to, nor servant, nor in the
..„oy of, any of til.... , an. not i..te.vst.nn tho event of th.s sn>t.
0,i.ted to ,.y the n.....aant f.r the san. so,., as . ho. .....tio u. Ahe, MaUa.s
.whlence. (M.jection rosorve.l to the inents.
.1 1 t:„„ Hi.fiim mass he reproacheil vis with
4,20 M^. «->y, the enr. spoUe -^^^ ^ ;^-:. ""^^ that ./order to pun.h
the dist..rl.ance that h.ul occurred on ih. Sunday ,n.v ^^^^ ^^ ^^^ ^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^.^^^ ,^^
UB he would only ..y ■> low -..s on ^^^'^f'^^J^^^^^^ ,,,^^, ,,,,, i ,,,,.. ..,.atio I to you
ancende,! the ,,..t,it and sai.l ■. 'I -uu ,ou.^ to s, w i . „,, ,„,,,,.
thisuioruin,. Voa ^.-eak ill of ^^^ ^^ ,^^^ ^L^,, .,a your ea.., ..nd you shall see
"rotten belly;" you iuBult the whole pa. y. ^^^^J'^^^ neighbourbg p-u-ishes
,., ,our party Is strong here, hut .s lar '---" ;^; " ; ^„ ..,,,,^,,„:; ^o what party he
He di.l not say which party e w.. ^^^^'^ ^^ „ ., ,„.,..a o..r pasto... He did
,,..,.d, when he said that 1. woujd aH..a.. ,^^^^^ ^^^^^ ^__^ ^
45S0::irdt:iachl..y he was. hecau.he.ia ..your party." U,. I Une. o... ,...• ■
~'!iTOf^■;S7^■^. :"
154
for wluiiii lit' was, t'liim one of my uncles, who goes to the Cure's cvory uiorning, iiml who tohl
it to me. I don't recollect wlicther ho si)oke of the consci<;nce in relation with tlu^ \ote or tlie
l)arty of the electors. The saiil sorinon was talked of considerably in the parish. It displeased
many persons.
Cro83-H\a.mineu.
After mass, the Vwvi: advised his [laiiahioncrs not to tii,dit, and to go home (piietly.
The foregoing de|)osition being read to the deponent, he persists therein, and declares
that it contains tho truth, and has signed
FERDINAND TREMBLAY.
4540 Taketi and sworn to hrfore me in optn Court, at Afatbaie, this \Oth Awjusl, 1876.
A. B. ROUTHIER,
J. s. o.
155
SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION (;0NTR0VKRTT:I) ELE'JTIONS ACT, IS74.
Mamimk. loth (liiy of August. 1870.
I'uksknt: -Hon. A. B. UorTiinoit, J. S. C.
4550
No, 1-4.
HllASSAlD KT Ai..,
I'cliiiiiiii rs ,
Hon. U. 1-. LANCtEVIN.
I)efendanl.
KrUUmr ,<„ llw rarl 4 '/>-■ P'-tiHoncn-
Uuis . .. a.u„no,., ago.. tUiHy y.u., of the I'^isl, of St. In.n.e, ...in, duly ..on. clotl.
depose uiul say ;
of the.... I :.u. 1.01 i..te.v.st.a i.. the event of this «uit.
, ., , \i„.l Miltiiis. Oiiiection ros.TVC(l !is to
4560 '"'.i^'^^'"' ^" '■>' ^''*'"'""' " '" '
ihc merits.
Whe,. n..ss W.S ove.. the C.e wen n, o the pull a. , ^^^_^^^ ^ ^^^^^^^^_ ^^^^ _
..o.. .,.,1 that was the ,v.so.. he ha,l not -^n. n^ ^ ^ -^ ,^,,,^.^ „,.,,
.as in favo.. of the (-onse.-vative party, by .tat.,.g t ,. t M the ^^^
*^'^^^ he Baia that people were .no. ..li.hte..e.l >" ^ ^^ r^.^, ,, „., e„r. (.... .o.
,., a co..eieneo to follow ; that .t ^^ >— ^ ^ ' ^^ ^ eo,.seie..tiouslv honn.! (.n,«,,^. )
^,,,,,,atU..ifw.a.a„ot..l.owtl.eC..rs. u w.^^^ ^^ _^_ ^^^ ^_ ^^^^^^
Hesai.l that if there w.vs a.iy ...ore ,piu...lU.ig
156
following Sui..l;,v. I .lu nut nio.ll.x'l iii. Imv in- said auythin- iu .vlerun<>. to tl>o f.,llowii.-
Satn.-auy. Wl.'-l 1..' ^ai.l was tllat ho wouM ..r,' if tln-y woul.l n.in.l hin.. I >unl...stoo.l Inn.
tlicn til lie iillii'linn to the row,
ChossI'^xamink.I).
I swoav that the Cure sai.l that tlio l.co,,lo w.nv iu ,;ouscioucc U.una t,. follow the advice
4080 given tJioMi liy tii-iv Ciiir in relation to elections.
.lu,slu,„ \Vi!l you state what tiie Cnre sai.l when he sai.l that in conscience they ha,!
to follow thr a.lvic(! of the Cure in relation to elections.
.!„..,<■,. --lie s^i.l it as I have alrca.ly just now statccl. It was a nmttc.- of conscience to
follow the Cure, and if we did not follow hi>n we woul.i >.e co.isciontiously hound (cnyaocs).
Whe.i finishing his se.n.on, the (Jure left every one fre., to vof as he chose. 1 caun..t read or
write. I waH one of Mr. Tromblay's partizims.
The present deposition heing read to the witness, h« persists in it, declares .t contains
the truth, and cannot sign.
7-<T/,v» ,n„ls,ron, h,,lmr mr in opn, Curl at Malhaic, thi> Wlh of A .;u^t, 1870.
, -„^ A. B. ROUTHIEE,
4590
157
1 iiMViNcK. OF gi Ki'-Kc. SUPERIOR COHRT.
DOMINION CONTIIOVKRTKI) KLECTIONS \CT, lS7t.
Mai.ma.k, loiii .liiy ol' Aii-u.st, IHTC.
No. II
4600
I'KKSKNT-. II..S. A. I'.. r...rTHlK.l!
UKASSAHD KT \L.,
reiiil'di'i"
ANIl
ll,.s, 11. L. LAN(iEVlN,
lUUiidaiit.
Hriilnin :n ill,' I'iUl <>' '/'< / 'W (/'"'"•'•■'<■
-:::;:rr:;r::i:::::::rr-
imnvst ill Ibc event of tins suit.
„.„..,,„, ,,, Uio .i„i.- „s to Al„.l M.lt..s ,.vi,U.l.,-.> ...i...MO,l ,vs,.,.v.l to ,li..
, , I .,■ ,!„• ci.vtiou ill ...■■Mtiou. 1 w^'S in tin- r'.im-li of St.
, ::";::;::r;i: iv.,;::,..i,., -.l.,. >,,.,.„,,- ,»™i.
::: :::J:; ..: ,.,.:,, .- •- •;2. ,;::::-: ,::;:.,;;,::';;:
.••-■--;- :::::: ':::::.iz:i<:^:^^-^^^ v,,:.,, .:.
"" '"::: '■;.■:■;:;:,..:. ...■ .s.. ■•■ '■-■« • ^" ' ■•■'•-■ ,•■- ";:-
viT) w>Mk. III. iiuik o> u I."!,,. ,,..,„ .,,l,livwin" riMiniH'lii's i.. Mr
'■ : ^ '"■■;■":: ;".:;:::,::; "t,,:::::.":.-!.:*'*" -
iVi'nil'kv .^ !..n'.v H"-""'' ^_"""' '., .\ ' ,._ .,.„ . .n„l..|i n.irtN : vo,i .lo i,o,
4620 l.ii»'i-Hl^ ■'' ^^ii""' •"■'■
1 , ,1 |,v,i ..f the (',.n.erv,-.nve«, rotten -rou... p.irtN
ai.l not :vn- ,-.i''."'i'ly «-l«"" ''^- ^^'"'^ •'"'•• '•"* "''"'' "■ ^''''''
-;;:;:;;:;::i:;::;r"'V;:::J».:K..:.-.- ^'. "- -
„.vas:,n,;tt..r,.f^'.ms,.i,.m.,..ov..t,..,nrl>o^ ! .,i. (.^.- W-/.)
I,
1
168
('UOBH-EXAMINKD.
Afti T iiiiiSH, tlio Ciiio r('|ir(milii(l th(> |)('i)|ilc willi li.ivinf,' loiiglit lo^otlior. lie iuMeil ,
''Why do you lii<lit ] You iiri' not iw strong iiH you think;" and I prflsuino it wan after that
that ill' Hitiil ; " Ye lilitid nion, opoii your nyi's, ;ind ko(' what is ;;oin>j; on In othoi' |ihic«s. "
4030 Thi' )'orp;,'c)inj,' doponition hrin;; read to the du|M)u<>nt, hw |iprsist.s tluTcifi, iind duolaion
that it uuntaiiiH tlie truth, and liaH st<,'nL'il.
IKTAVH (HKAlil).
r<(/f«;i and .moni beforr main opfii Ooiirl, at Malhaie, thin Itiilli itui/ o/' Aii;iiu<l, 187ti.
A. B. HUUTUIKIt.
^1
l-V.t
Hi.-<iii)I''n I'm.ai k.
St. UrniiiiiM '!'■ ltilii"ii-ki. r. <^.
M„, lUt, IH72.
4G4U
'riii-iiii-li ilii'ii' Miissi
o.mrv. th- Krv. Mr -Ltuin, .I..Mvm,|..„t ,,„,,al .im I M "^k-l
,1.. ,1,..;;,,..,^.. ... '" .ll,.«,..l n,.. ,nvil..«. of n^lnn, ,.,,,,..1^. .!...■ ,.n.,,.,.,y. .s i. ,1... ,■,..>,.
, ., . ,., ,. ,,,. .,,„„., V V.TV .on I ,-^:,~.m. w.T,. all,-'.l. n-.l, .mo,,.,' o,l,..,>, .L.
:;;;::,":: ,, ::;:i,.>,.„..^i ...■.,.. > «■« > '■•- '•.- : ;■ , '■ :
'::: ;:r „„„:,..;;. ■ ■ -- »'■"•' ^ '■':■'■ .™; ";-::■
tlu. lJ,'|..>.t„..M,tof iMHhwi.'S :.„.lll,.- Uinhoi.,.. -l- l;'"
Mll.| iMll '^ ll"' l''|il"'t*l'M
,aiv.. or tl,.. r,„„„v o. S,.„„.,.,v, vou will ... ...1.. .0 «iv.. you,. ..,•!-' '■;."";.^^';:
1K)|
C'Oll
IVl' Ot tl, Il,,l> o' •■'•- •■ ■' ■• ■ 1 .1 11 \l,. Mir, .1,1.11
„.,atio„. In n..- vou .ouM >.ot > ^ „.,,„. H.^rts w.,1, .l,- Ho„ M.. M,..l,.ll.
..oi.M vcm i,ot. for ins(a,„-.., put u ,|m.s-iou i„ tl,.- Houh.
ijllrsl tin-
, ,,1 llici,' I:1„'Ih. 11, o,..l.l- III,'
n... a..ov.. ...lui,. is .o, t...i w,„, . .-o,,,,.... II,. -■.■M.i. .• .i,ia I'" ••''^^■;;;';;^' ^;;j'';;
1 (>iii|uii'i.
N..,.(li
l,«
)w .IN lilal.l'.. II''
4G50 yiif'.e': (lov.'nii,..nl for tl,.' immcli.tt-
;iue .I.....1. l.U.se....theno-,.tWlVo,..u,olCi,..l...oo...lu.l.„..l<.-— -
,..., oouM not 1... .,...,. uvuilal.!.. to have the sai,l sun-.y „..!,.. Ins n.K,,,,,. . „ul,l . . -U
^iv,.,. to a s.,.-v.yo,- .vs,ain« hm: M,'. .Mfml llu„.el, .o. .u.Uu .,■, .1.
couhl al.so Uk.. l.a«H,.K.- on ih.' (!„v..,>.n,..nt sch r -i 'insp^-.
1 .shall •.»• v..|.y i,'U,(l to l,ra,' tVom \ ml on
I'liily \o,ll>i,
KDMON'D l,AN(iKVlN.
4^.y0l>. Tkkmii.v. K~., M. !•
Ottuwii.
I'.S.- Please (.ctiini »',,t.lo ifs to lac.
K. L.
I true ni/it/.
\' A. IliKMIil.AV
r
160
H\r,-
4070 .luniv
nrsiiop'H ''m.A' i;, Riiin>iinki, I' *i .
.1 mill. is7-.'.
I lll';( I.I I kllUvllMl;,'!' llli' llT.l|ll .il' S nil' |i
III I'm- wliJil t III \ui\i-
Ml'. Wliiiclii'i, wlici-.!' wiii'iU will iil.it" 111 nil', \civ «.'ll klinv.'H iliit il wum iihvit
|ii'o|NMi>il til (li'|irivi! iiiiy oiin ((/' riij/UM ni'iiifnl hij a I'lnili-iu'l. Ti ii'v iiml cv ul" in ■ i|iii'Htii)ii in
that iiiitninn' ix iiiitliiiib; Icnm timii itiiilcavoriii^ lo |iiit |m'ii|iI(i nil' with v.iiii woi.I.h, uinl ymi will
H<((! tliii h" svill mil, iliifii ii'il iiit> iliii H'uiiit tliiiii< ill till' hitter yi)ii siiy tlu'v m'h (iii'|t.iiiii;< in iln'
l)ii|iuriiiiriit.
■rimic .ini two [Mi'tiHH Id ,1 coiitrii!i, ami I kii'nv t lint tiio ODveraiiinnl ari' mil ilii^poncil
II illow >,.).ai> iiwliviilii.ilM ti) tuki' iiiil'iiii' mlv.tiitii;{o ot' tin- wonls of tli"ii' cMiitnicl with liioia
1 hojK' that llio iiwiilt uf till' iiivi!-.lif,'atii)ii thai has Im'vii (,'niiiti'il will t-lmw thin.
Villi havi' ri'iiili'fi"il nil' a si i \ in' in li'itinj; iiir liiiow that in Niiv;i SiMiia tin' riparian
/^(jgQ |irii|irit'ti)rs arc mit trcalfil with tln' sann' |iarsiimMiy as lliosf iit' tlir i'mvini'i' of (jiU'lHto. I
ilmi't know il you will |msli tin- iniittcr liy imaas of a i|ucstii)ii in the llonsn, hut ri!Ht iwstm'tMl
that to leave tim oxfliisivo ri^'hl 111' tisliiuf,' (iM.yi/i'/'a.'i"/ '•( /ix'^im) in 'he hau Is ot" those who,
iV8 it is positively asserteil, ileal with it in I'DiiliMveiuioa of lli- t rais of tlir I iw for th ■
protection of tlsli, is to eause an irretrievalile loss. The lesiilenls gave imtiee ther.of in iliio
tiiuu, ami with liie more eagerness that they arj iiituroste.l in the propa,i,'alion if tish fur their
own UNO.
In his answer to .111. Sei,'iiiii, Mr. W'liiteher is snrpriseil that ih" petiii mers anke'l fur
theiiist^lves liik! right of li-^hing, Imi he is in I'lror when he limls thai they are mil- eiinse.|ueiit
with themselves. 'I'hey wish to ii'<t, ami not to »ii.vi(sr, the natnr.il riehes within their reieh :
4690 that is tlin tliHerenee.
Ploiwe waleh the ipiestion of the survey of th" Moisie lamK rlosely. So fir, W" hivi!
only receiveil a letter from the ( 'omiiiissiniier, .lateil the IStli .Mav, stating that tli" '<V'' "/
Mr, 6V(/i(/;('.t iiimioii ii-oiild ivci'iiu' thr 'liie ninntilitru'loii o/ ihr Ueinirlmi'iil. you se", it h
iion-cominittal. ,
If the present steps are not erowneil with siieeess, I'l'otestaiit striiiLters wiU tak" 'lie
place of the Kieneh Canailius in th.it locality. .Mr. Molson lal"ly iittinil th,' llire.u. ami
that leads our oountryiiien to wish for a little inilepemlenee.
I remain,
Sir,
47«0
Your very hiimlili' -^I'l' .int.
KDMoXI) L.\N'!i-:VIS,
Vrc.-flKN.
?. A. Trkmhlav, Ks(j., M. P.,
( )ttawa.
.1 true copij.
P. A. TilKMiii.AY.
PROVINCE OF QUEBEC,
DiMrii-t nf Snijvniiij
161
SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTIIOVERTED ELECTIONis ACT, 1874.
4710 Ktftiuii (It a Mciiilii'i- I'lir lite Ihiitsc af Citiniiwiix far llic EUcloral dUlrirl of (Jluirhu-nir.
Malbaie, August lltli, 187fj.
No. 11.
I'KEHK.NT;— The IfoN. A. 15. HtiuriiiKK, .1. 8. C.
l-
BRASSARD et At..,
PtiUioniTS.
VS.
The Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Defendant.
Evidence on l/ir juirt uf the Petitioners.
v. A. 'I'leinlilay, Kscj., ul' the jjarLsli of Mulljiiii", liuiiii^ tluly sworn upiin the llolv
4720 Evangelists, ilotli depose iiiiil say ;
I know the partu'S in this cause. I was thi^ caniliilate opjios(Ml to the Defendant at the
election in (piestion. 1 met Mr. |j:inj,'evin in many parishes; anil in each of his speeches he
invariahiy spoke of the clergy, statin.:; tliat the electors weri.' oliiiged to obey the voice of their
pastor and answer to the I'all of tiio hishops or of llie l)ishop." I'or I took a note of that
expression at Ste. Agnes, held at Mr. Joseph McXicoll's.
li(
his spi'eches tliat he had the unanimous support of the clergy of the county.
At Ehoulements, the Hon. Mr. Cauehou having (luestioned the truth of that allegation,
the vicar, Mr. tiosselin. interfeieil and addressing the audience from the wicket of one of the
garret windows ot tin' jiarsonage, a.sserted in the presence of .Mr. Langevin anil Mr. Tarte, that
4730 '"' ^^'''^ certain .Mr. Langevin had the support of all the cures of the county. He said that he
h.id not pei-sonnllv seen the Rev. .Mr. Doucet, euro of Malhaie, ami another cure whose name
I don't remember very well at this moment, but that ho knew beyond a doubt that tho.se two
cures were also for .Mr. Langevin.
1 hi ve tiiken ii note of the following words "resolution piissed," iind iis ^L■. Langovia
was then H])eiiking of the clergy, as far iw 1 can recollect, he spoke of a resolution piissed by the
clergy of the county asking him to lie a ciindidate or pledging him their support.
.\t St. Kidcle, he slitted he h.id the unanimous su['port of the clergy.
f
162
At t]„. „,o,.tiMg at St. Sim,.,,,,, 1„. .,,„.,„.,1 l.i„ ,;„„( „„| ,,„„„„, ,|,„ j„^i^,„j,, „p ,„, „,.,|,.,
..tl, w„..I. 1„. I„.,I -,..,„, |,„„„,.„, 1,^ Our H.ly [.'.,!.,.,■ M... ]•.,,„, .,.,1 ,.,.,.,:,.')<,.a .1,M, l,Hvi,„
4 HU ,v,...,v,.,| M,<.|. . ,„:„k „r I,.,,,,.,-, tl,.. el.vt.,,^ .|„,ul,| l,av,. ..nliro couM.nc. i„ l.i,.,.
A, tl,,. „„..t„„ |,.,l,h„ ,..,,„,, ., „,.,,(„„„,, ,,,.,, ^^ ,.^^_|_ ^,_, ,^^^^^^^^.^^ ^,^^^^^1 ^^ 1^^^^^^
tn.iiJ 1,1.^ I,.,i.i^l,i|, 1!n|i,,|, l,,i„-,.sin, „(• liiiiiuiiski.
WI.'U ...„.,„.,.„U„. u|,„„ tl.., ..i,l I,.,,,.,, Mr. I,:,„...vi„ .ave it U. 1... ,m„I,.,.su.,„1 ,„■ (.i,.,!
'" ''.'V'' " -„.l..,^t„ „l that I was a ,ia,.g...,.,.,.s „m,., „r a „,a„ l.,.l,„.^i„. to a ,la,...,M.„.,s |.ar, ,
iiMV,.ll,.il a i;,i
,,f tlif. wli,,!,. iMimtv.
;,.-,! .I.'.il „> U.fi ooimty aii,l ha,i ,„a„v „|,|,..,.t„T,iues „f .,tviu^ tlio ,.|,.,:
torn
^ It was a ki.„w„ fart in all ll„. „„„„_v tl,al M,-. La„^„.vl„ |,a,l the
In i-ef(.|.,ii,..,. t„ th,. clcctiiiii the ,'oii,.|.al
10 goiii.i'al tt,iii|. was t
•■^iij'lio,.! uC i)„. ,.||.,.,,
Sii„is, euro of liai,! St. Paul, was especially lue.itioiie.
i<. |.iii-e> utti'i-.iuc.s ; tl
"' S,., 1,1,111 ,,f Jf,
4760 It WIS
sa,.| ..v,.,yw-|„.,.,.. ,.si„.,.iall;, ,., |!ai,. S. Paul. U,a, tl„. sai,| se,-,,,,,, ha,l pr,„
<.onsi,l,'rai,l,. (.|l<.,;t. '
luUPil
1 was in a positi,.,. to as-.o.-tain my.oIf by ...Huvr^in. with tl.,- electors, au,| i,. the
.a.u, ,os whe.... I went. W,h,„.„ i,, ,,arti,.ula,. w,.,-,. tVi,),,..,.,.,,, au^ s„i„.. of th,.,, ol.serv ,1 to
.... H.at ,t was i„„,os.,,le ,.r t.,ei,. hus .,1s t,> .„„. .„• ,„e a...,, sue,, a seru.on. ^ L^^
must ohey the ...ure. ■
Ae,.o,-,li,.. to the l„.st iutnn.Mti,,,, I ha.l IV„„. supportefH who l.usicl lh..„.s,.lveH with
my eh..a„„. .e.y „,„d, at na„.S,. iNul. | .■cko„e,l ,„. a ,„.,i,.rity of ft-om seve,.tv-.ivo to one
I......1IV.I vol,.s „. that |,..,,sh, wh,.,.,. I was o,.,- I,ui„l,v.l a,„l thii^ty t hree i„ ,„iu„,ity'
'"'"'""■ '"'■""' "■''"' '" '■' 1'"^'''''" '" k»o»v- W..I1 the .seutim,.,.t of th,' ,.|,.e„„s „r |- ,i, st
1 (00 Taul, an.i ,,1, ,!,.■ l:itli ofJauiiaiy, ..j-ht or ti.n of tl,..m WTot a le
eouUI ,v,.koii ii]„,ii the al„A,' iiii.iiii.,ii,.W u.aiuritv.
letter to inlunn i,,,. that I
TlHl..tt,.r 1 hav, just „,e„tio,.,.,l was |„.,-l,a|-s a.hhv.s,..,! to .Mr. Ileiov Simai,! ami h,-
,'o,Hi„,iiii,.al,',| it to 11,,..
Aft,,- the |,;.l, „f.lauua,-v. when 1 wen, ..;,a,„ to Mai,. St. Paul, n.anv of ,nv su,,,,.,,t..,.,
'ol,l n... that tl„v ,.oul,l ,.„i „„«. vote fo,- „„.. siu..e tli,.y h el l,..u-J ,hc s,.n„„i, „f "tl„. ,.,„•,■. of
the Sixteenth.
, . ''"'■ "'"' ' ""^''^'"' ^^'"" '-^.-ini, tli, u„ty, „o ,,ers,m somewhat l.usv
''7:""";r"": •■'"'''' '"• ""'^^^" '■^''" '■"' •'-< "- — -■•■ l-Hy en;,a...,l s,,eakin, ami
workin;; (.„■ .M,-. L:iui;,.\ in.
4770 la Ihe ,,iv,-..,li„,. ..h.e,io„s, ..l„.,„.ver a ,a„-e .-ven „uh ,,l|,„l„.l ,„ ,„, ,:a,..l„h.l.>re a l.tth'
in io> lawii, the f,ct was iM.m..,|iateiy l,l■ol,,^h^ t„ nu knowh.,l;,'e.
No ,„an ..onhl ,,„ssil.ly ,^^, to P.ai,. St. Paul au,l stay tl,,.,-,. f,„ ,.,„. ,lay ,„■ tw„, an.l not
hear people tiiKakii.;,' of the Curb's .sermon.
At St". Airnes. M;, Liji.r.
'•lerm'y ; I noted that expi^eMsioii.
p.iueifuj voice of th,
I
163
Ceioss- IvXAMINKI).
It is I wild i,';nc :tll Uit! iii'.'i'.ssiirs iu>,tiiu'tiims lor iuMtitiitiii^ I li<- |iivsi'ul i,'ii<piiry ;ini(
a('t';il sillri' ;is tlliilii,'l| I wiTi' tlir I'fili i'cl itioiipi-.
'I'll my kiiiiwli'ilj,'!', llic IVtitiuuci.s iliil not ti-oulilc tlifinscl ,p.s iiliuiit lliii [irusi'Ut ciisc; : I
4780 dill all tlic work i,i,vs..|f.
Till' iiotiv-i 1 Niiiil I took wf Mr Loixeviii'.s fX|;r('s-.ioiiM wcir in Aritini^. 'Phi' liook tlioy
wci'c liiki".! in i-- ill inv Jiossi's.sion.
As far as 1 can ii'i.'olln't, My. Vir-.iv (J.)ssi'liu inti'rt'''ri^.| us I staU'il aliovf at Mr. Tarto'H
rci|ucst, liiit it may lie also that some I'liH'lur.s ri'iiuostril him to como forwanl. Mr. Cauchon,
as Car a.s I i-pmcmhcr, was tlicii askini; Mr. Tarte or M". Lani,'t;vin to prove that hi', Mr. Laiige-
viri, wa.s roally su|i|iort('il hy all the Cnrr.s of tlio (V)nnty.
I do not in the Irast ri'collcet having' .saiil, at Ijair St. I'aiil, in a |niljlic .speech, that there
wciv s.jmr priests of the County, among others the Iiivereiiil Messrs. Doucet, Fafanl and Cinq-
Mars, who were lu tay favoi, nor do I recollect liavin;; stated it in any of thi^ parishes, either at
4790 llie Chiircli-iloor or at meeting, for no Cure of the County ever told me he was in my favor.
It is not to my knowledge that any person working for the success of my election,
staled that some of the Cures ot the County wir" in my favor.
I did m\ liest ti; eoiiv ince li'e ■■Icclnrs ihat liii'y could vote fur me without heing exposed
to damn ition. Iiy eomnuinicaling toiheni the o|iinions held of me liy many among the most
learned and veni ralile priests nf the I'l'oviiiee of (Jiieliec.
<^)ih.stiijii.- -l>i it not true thai you ^aiil at your meeting that the Ciiri''s of the (Joiinty
wtM-e in fa\or ol' Mt: i>angevin, Imt that you had for you many veneralile priests outside of the
County (
AiiHifi'i: — 1 may have said so.
''5UU jHvslinii. Is il mil Hue that you read at meetings letters from some priests in wiiich the
Uefeiulaul's politiial conduct was conilenmed '
Objected to liy the retitionei's as lending to liring a recriminatory e\ idence against Mr.
Tremlilay, whi> is not into cau.se.
Ohjeetiou maiiilaincd.
The priests whose opinions in my favor I mtide known in the t'ounty, are the l!e\erend
.Mo.ssrs. iSaxe, Cure of -St, Romuald, (he Reverend Messrs. A udet, Chaplain to the Convent of
Sillery, and th" Reverend Messire Tremhlay. formei'ly Ciiri' ofSu;. Agnes. I .il.so ..lenfionecl
the name of the Reverend Messire Louis I'aijuei, a prie.t and a profossor in the Liival Uiuver
sity, whose guod wishi,'.< seemed lo show iiy ilesii-ec| the success of my candid.iture.
4810 (Jiunlioii. — I'lea.se state in what, manner \.iu did \ our best to eoi;.i;,v-e the electors that
they cimid vote tor you without exposing them.selxcs to damnation.
164
. Ii(.«/c,7-. — I .siifcoijilcl ill iiiikiii;,' ii .^.H.l iiiiiiilp.'i' of tlr'lil iiii<|(
just iiiciiti(iiu'!l ii|>|pr<nf,l (if my |i.,liliciil foi.^lii,'! up- il, 1im4 .IM not ooud
no I'vil ill votiii'' for me.
iNt.iii I lliiit if tli(! jirii'sis I
I'liui It, there luiiili
I iiiadi- l!,i; o|Miiioh.i of til. . SI' |.riivst,s known, liy rclntin- wh;a tlifv H.iid of
ivuil iniiiiy priviil.' li>tlfi>i from cTi^iin luicsts, wliicli I ivrt.iinl
roail iiiul I not int
y wonlil ni'ver li;ivi
iMiil.'il lot!i\v,irltli.Mli.-,riHlro,iT ,.|r.'<:lof tlii. sfiinoiis of lli.. ( 'iirnn of tl.c (
oniitv.
I I
liivi' asi'.M-taincd tluit iiv rcadin;; ilio said l(;t,l..'r.s I
■A ia I
Ihi offliM-tors to uiidriMaiid that I was not ii (,'atliolic Ijlu'riil liuldiip' <h
4820 ^ ''''' ""' |'i"f''-.^ thf .ipiiiioiis of fnv-tliiiikrrs ; lliat. I was a C'alliolii; liki- tl
)riii!,'in^ a j,'o(k1 mini.
iiiL-'croiis doctrines ; tluit
wcrii clivtcd ilifv slionM I
wliirli 1ic1j(-I(
of the ( 'nrt's.
lav.' nothiiii,' to fear f,),- their reli
ii.ifeddi.l not hold the dulif,'eroils doetrines whieli had liecn 1
lelll.>^lve^ , that if I
;ioiis interests ; and that tlie party to
nenlioiicd in tin; sermons
(>«.>7;o/i—l'h.ase say wliethcr those h'ttei^i weiv n^id liy you and yonr frieiulH iu tile
dilf.reni I'.t.'-hes of th.' t'otmty, and es|i.'cially at Haie Si. I'aul and St. IliUrion.
<)l)j««m(( lo as tending to bring reeriminatory evidence.
Ol
ijeetioii niaintaiiied
I eaiiiioi |.roduce tlie letters; I have not got them.
l>iiriug the eleetion I read a letter from Mr. the Viear (n'neral ot Jt
48."i0 '^'"' '"*'"""'"■" ■'' -Moixit' oil the north coast. I'he Ivv. Viiar-t Jeneral eoi
•^ki.
relative tt
lined therein of
nohcs of liiat
the manner thity were treated, and coiielinh'd his letter hy saying that the Cat
place would soon lie re|iltice(l hy Pnitestaiits, and that .Mr, MoUon hail threatened it. It
incidentidly nieiitioiieil in that letter of tin' survey of the lauds the I
was, however, in connection with their right.-, to lishing, as ri|irarian |)ropiieiors.
isliernien oecuiiii!i
hut it
That fetter and another on the saino suliject had lieen writt
'J''
jjiuigevin at tin' limo .Mr. Hector Louis Langov
ten to me hv .Mr. Vie.ir-(
ir iJeneriil
d to show I'V these letters that .Mr. Hect'.ir L
iu was a lueinlii'i' of the Dominion ('aliinet. i
iHgevin ha
I lle-l,v,,| (!,
(lie inteiests ot lilt
tisliermen of the north coast, and that the Vicar (Jeiieral lia'l I
lien oliligcl to address hini.self to
III- to have justice meted out to them ; an I with regard to the survey of their latid.s, that
4840 "'''"■•"o'' ^'''- ll''''tiii' I'liigeviii w.n a niemlier ol' the Di
h''i.lati
he Was to a certain
i-.tent .ill poweifiil with his friends
leserving of their conlidence.
iUid local miiiuieis, and ciin.se.pieiitly that he was not
I have those lettei-s in my po.sse.ssioii whereof ( fyle copies.
The Defendant charged me wiili misrepresenting the meaning of tin
•ause I
had at tii-st omitted the i-eaditig of the par.igra|ih rel.itive to the siirvev of the land.; In oiil.^
to show that I had not niisrepi-esoiited the sense, 1 read the paragraph in 'piustion.
I did uol .sav thai the V^icar-(
elleral .llHl tlie
I'.ishoo [.
ii'^evin wepi' oopose'l »•> l!it;ir
brother — it would ha\c been .in ab-,ni\|ity. I us -, tliose letters only lo show tli.it wIk'ii Mr
Lailguvin was a miiii.sler he had iieglecti>d the inU'i-csls of the lishermen ot the ii.irlliPrn coiusl.
166
4860 AmoMK tlioRc who xi'vo mi' m Mi. Ilcmy Simmil iiit'DniMtioii m to the iiiiijonty I wiih
ti) lmvi> lit liiiic .St. I'liiil, 1 iiiii iiitiiii' Mr. Ail(il](lio Onjjnon, iiii i'x-mi'iut)i'i' ; Mr. <!iirit!|iy.
iiiurdiaii( , Mr. .\iuliiir, gt'iitU'iuuii {rentier) ; Mr. I'liiilymi' Hunt, Mr. I'liili|i|ic Oa^iion.
Kk K.\A.\iiNi.u.
If I liail not ri'iiil the uliovo-nii'iuioiiod Irtti'iH I am under tho imjirossion thnt I would
liavi' liot'ii ill a minority ol' six orei^lit hundrcHl votoa, because tin.' I'lcctors HW'uii'il to inn to lif
exceedingly frightened l)y the si'mioiw of the Curds,
Tlie i'ofpgoing dqionition hoing read to the di'ponunt, ho pcrHiMtH thcivin, and ileciares it
oontain.s tho trutli, and has signed.
V A. TRKMIJLAY
4oG0 I'abii mill \wiirii to ln'/nrf mo in uprii Coiiri, this t2tli iliiij nj Aiiiiusi, 187G.
A. B. ROUTUIER,
J. 8. C.
r
ICf,
riumm: of iiVKmc. ( SUPERIOR COURT
,lr<:l •■> ■• ijiitllfll/. )
ooMfNioN roNlliitVKItTKI) Ki.RCriONS ACT, 1S7»
^''■•"' if.'iihf, f„r l/ir llomtofOominuiiHfoi llir KlivU„;tl Di^tri.l nfdliai/fruu.
.M.M.iiAlK, An-ust 1 Itli. l,-*7t)-
I'rkhknt: Kkn a. is. liiM riiiKR, J. H. f
iii;assai;|) kt ai...
I'llilinifrs ,
vs.
Ill IN II. I, I.A.VOKVIN,
llifi'ilildiil.
EviileiH-e (III III, iHiH (if the I'fliliKitcin.
Pitrr <!iil..'rt, tliii-ty-''i,i,'ii' ' "-^ "I'l, of lin' |..iri.sli .if Si. I'l'luiii, t'.iiijic
tl|"iu till' Ilciy Kvaiif,'('li.sts, iIdiI. ,|i'|m).s(' iiiid sav : -
!ni'. HVV'oi >
I know thr |iartics in Uiis .•luisi'. I lUii not ivl itcl rior akin to. imr ^crviint, iji;i in tlio
t'lniiioy of, „uy ofili, ni. | jiavf no inliTi>>t in tlir i ,, cil" tliis suit.
I 'v.is an cli'cloi- at. llic last I'lcttiun. anil \ulri| ,i.s ^nrli. f wmm iji i),,. cIhiivIi ,St
18°U Uiliaiii oil till) lii.st Sinulay Uct'orn thi' voliiii;.
• »l,ii.,-tcil III un till' sanir .^i-oiiiul a.s to tlio mi.li'n.'C of M.rl .\liil(;':s, <)li|UL-ti..,i
i-csorvi'd til the ini'ritH.
.Ml, Fafar.l, till' t'liri- of tin' |iari^li. s|iokr of tlir rli'i'lion ,in<l of tin i aiiiliilatr.s, il>-
s]iok«VHt sonic li'imlh. Me lii-st saiil tiiat li.' Iiad k'anir I .lining tli<' u. rk that, tlicii^ wen- .o
fho Di'diarj,'!' (a |poi-liim of St. rrli.iin) cntain piriii-s -.vho, li.ivini,' lais year iwiim-I h fair
liai'V(;st. rt'inailii'il idle and iim 1 to disriiss [lolitirs.
1 1« said thai nio.it of tiinii wciiimiMi' tol'oiin an oiniiion ol ilii'ir own, lli- iiddi-d
that when they had s.iiin' u'anli. whi'ii tii'^ 'V.'i'- -i'-k, iIh'V us'mI (■, : iki' ili'ii Ciii-i-'.s advice,
1ml that they would not listiii to him oii |iolitiL'al siiliji'itv l!iit lor tiif ( 'iirt; and tin- widl-to-
4890 •'" ''I'liiK'i'** *■<'•■>■ tV'w woni I have Ikmii alili- to .sow last sjiriiij,'. If you wish to .sccilff the ;,'ood
olUccs of yoiir Ciiro and ol' tin' well lod.> finiin , in thr fuluri', vol«« like ihi-ni and witli them.
Do not lisii'ii to liiui •• iiigii priest" wiio calls mcciiiijj.s at tin- Duciiargi' to talk politics to you,
who dopH ikM know a I! from a Imll's foot, and who is a Sfapc ;^ra.- ■ (edlKiiijif dc j,rison.) lie
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siiiil tlioso wln) woulil voto against tho parisli (lacaiuni,' tiiornliy in I'lvor of Mr. TreinUlay, us
nearly tiid wliolo (larisli whs againnt liim) wouM l)0 oonsidtuecl l)y him as heartless men (saim
C(cur).
He said that Mr. Treinblay was a sliil)l)oi'n man, representing nothing hut his own
i(l(!as, and that Mr. Langevin was in a position to render us very gro*t Horvioes.
Mr. Fal'ard was then ooncei-ning hiipiself eonsideralily ahout the l)usinoss of tlie St.
4900 Urhain mines.
He did not name the [i;irty whom h(w:illed " liigh priest," Imt he fully give to under-
stand whom he meant. It was [ who ealled the meetings at the Deehargo. Tlio.se words
could not apply to any one hut me. I never was sent to jail during my life.
Mr. li'afard voted at that election. He did not say inthe|>oll whom he voted for, hut
every one knew very well that he Wius for Mr. Langevin. He had said it himself from the
pulpit ((((/ jii-oiu'), hy stating that he had himself made great ellorts to eliango his political
opinions ; and at the i)r(!vioiis eleetion he had heen for Mr. Tremhlay. At thi! 0|iening of the
poll, and in tho pre.senoo of a great numher of the electors, he i-ecommended to the Jleturning
Otticer to till himself the ballot papers of the electors, ailding that most of t\u:m w(U'o unable to
4910 fill t'lem themselves. I don't know how many electors had their ballot papersthus tilled. But
as far as I remember, there were about sixty. I re[)rosented Mr. Tremhlay at the \)o\\.
I know Mr. On6sirae Gauthier, the local niomb(!r for this county. I had no private
convei'sation witli him during tho election, but heard him speak at the church door of St.
Urbain.
Question. — Did he speak of the clergy in connection with tho election !
Objected to by ''
throats to the witness
overruled.
Defendant, as not teniling to prove Mr. (iauthier's agency and his
■i evidence not being in accord wiMi the bill of particuhirs. 01>jection
Aimvcr. — Yes; he told us he had met tho Archbishop, who had I'epresented Mr.
4920 Langevin to him as a very able man. He added that the clergy were united in favor of Mr.
Langevin.
The first Sunday on which ho spoke to us was at tho end of December or the beginning
of January, ami it was on the same .Sumhiy that Mr. Langevin spoke at St. IJrbiun. He told
us that the electors had given him a good place in the House, and that he had found a clever
man to hell) '"'"' ^^'"^ ^"^ ^^^'- I'i">J,'ovin. He told us ho had good grounds for hoinng that
the mines would bo workeil; he was then tho owner of tho mines. Those miue^ are of vnj
great importance to the imrish of St. Urbain ami the neighbouring puridies whi'u they are
worked ; they furnish the means to tho people to earn moiu^y. Tliey hiul l)een ovi'r one year
stopped.
49S0 '^'' *''^''^ '"' ^'^^ found a Company to work the mines, and in ciuso ho should not succeed
with that (Jompany, that the Government would take the working of the- mines into its own
hands, lie did not tell us very cletirly that voting f.)r one candidate rather than for the other
could have any Ijearing ui)Oi. tho working of the mines, but la; told us that if we conhl elect
Mr. Langevin he would be able to i-ender eii very great services. He remarked to us that two
168
horses liitolicil iti front oiio of tlio other, aiid ptilliiij,' in tlie siine iliroction, ]iail ntw!ii<,'th, liiit if
thoy were liitolieil ill o[ii)o)fito diroctioiiH, thoy ooulil do iiDliiiiij^. Ho told ii.s : •' Once for iiM,
I buseeoli yciu not to put tho drng on tlio wlioein ; do mo that favor. " Ho ;,'iivo m to undoi--
stiind thatthesaidfiivoureousiHted in ek^otin,!,' Mr. !jaii;,'ovin ; tiiat ho could do any thiii>,' with him
and nothing' with Mr. Troiuhlay. He did not say what ho couhl do with Mr. Laiij,'evin, hut I
4940 Ulider.stood it related to his promises ahoilt the mine and the railway. He also spoki^ of tho
railway ; he told us ho had secure 1 fivnn ih'> (Jjv.-i' iin ■•M, \'u> pr.);nisi' of a siirvi'i-, in order to
carry tiie Lake Ht. John Riilway tliniugh IJaio St. I'anl. [ don't romemhei- whether he spokfc
of the election or of tho vote of the electors in connection with the sail railway, hut it was
after he had sicken of till' railway ,ind of the mines that he hrouglit up the ipiestion of the
election, as iiIiov(^ stateil. I have no knowledge that tho Gov .■nm(!i\t 'mh caused tho nurvi> >•
promised by Afr. (Jauthier to ho made. Tin,' latter diil not miMn,io.i tliu matter since ; at leii-st,
luMlid not speak of the railway, hut lu! s()ok(^ of the mines to me. [n one of his speoche'*
during the election, Mr. Ganthier spoke u( two bridges, which were since built by tho L )cal
Government in May last, with wood supi)lied by tho farmers. Tho said bridges aro in St.
4950 Urbain. He told us ho had had from tho Qoverument si.v hundred dollars for tho construe. 'o .
of those bridges. I don't recollect whether he lueiitionod the election at that timo. He
many times mentioiKul thoso bridges during the election. Those bridges were not built on the
Government roids, but on the road o|)(;ned and maintained by tho farmers.
Cross-Exami.ned.
I had some ditllculties with the Cure before the election ; but when the election began I
was on good te'ins with him. I was not on bad terius with him at the beginning of the
election, liecaiise ho had reproached me with having sohl liipior without a lioduse, but it was
< previous to that.
1 was hued for having sold licjuor without a licdiise, and I never paid tlie tine. A
4960 ^^"''™"'' "'"** ifisued for my apprehension when the case was in appeal. [ don't know the date
of its issue, but I was arrested three or four days after I had carried tho cause into appeal.
Qiieslidii. — Please state why you Heil to the woods when you met or saw Jean Baptiste
Tremblay, of Bale St. Paul, bailiff.
Answer. — I fled to the woods in ca.se he should try to arrest me without knowing it, in
order that I might appeal without [ireviously paying the tine. The same bailiff ap|)rohende I
me afterwards and totik mn to the District Magistrate at Malljai(^ ; it was then three or
four days after my appeal had been taken, and I was set at lil)erty. The apfi^il has since boon
dismissed and I have made a settlement with the Uollector of Inland Kavenue. It was
previous to tho election.
4970 '''''^ foregoing deposition Iteing read to the deponent, ho persists thorinn, and doclaros
that it contains the truth, and has signed.
PITRE GILBERT.
Vakcn and siiorn to bcftire me in open cnurt at Malbaif this 1 It/i 'In.;/ of Aivpiit, 1870.
A. B. ROUTHIER,
r
"'rTSMBiiiuii iiU4UUHiiH»MHii''''
I
169
PROVTNTE OF Ql'l-JJECj SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTI »NS \0T, IS74.
HUrlion of a M.-ndnr for ihr llou.e of n.mmnn. for ,ke FM,nr„l O/.s/WW „/• CharlevoU
M\Ln\iK., 1 Itli .lay of Au^iHt, 1876
Present :— Hon. A. B. Routhibr, J. S. C.
4980 No. 14.
BRASSARD ft ai...
Petitimiei-a.
vs.
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Defendant.
Evidence on the part of the Petitwnen.
Dominique DucMne, aged thirty two years, laborer, of the imrish of St. U.bain, boing
duly sworn doth depose and say ;—
I know the parties in this cause. I am not related . .f kin to or in the en.ploy of any
4990 of them ; I am not interested in the event of this suit.
Objected to by Defendant as to the evidence of Abel Malt.,is. Objeetion reserved to the
merits.
I wa-s not an elector at the election in question. I was at Church on the U-.st Sunday
before the voting. The Cure spoke of the people of the Dickar.,. He said that the peop e of the
; la. met in'the houses, put their feet under the table and Ulked poht.s. He added : " u^stead
^ft^king good counsel, they follow the opinion of the high priest of the />...,,. a jaaW
L ecklve <le rn.on.)-^He reproached then, for following that pc.on's adv.ce u.tead of tak ng
o nsel rom tLir Cur6 and fellow citizens ; that in the spring he had g.ven them the means o
Ig g,.ain. He said that when people were sick they were in the ab.t of oom.g to h.m a d
^nftn noITo the hic^h priest. In the parish we well understood that when he spoke of the high
^^^^ :Lrh 1 : Pitve GilbeH. who ha« Just been examined as a witness, and who w. wor .ngfo-
Mr Iv^lblay. In that sermon he did not mention Mr. I..ngevin's nan.e, but we underst o.
.11 raU. was speaking of him, and all he said was favorable to him. Ho stated : that the
well that lie was speaK g , ^^^^^^ ^^^ ^j^ ^^
clergy had met together and that tiie man whom we shonUi nave, n 1 1 .
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(I'homvtC ijiii /loiw fidlait) - we nmlorHl.xxl tliiit it wan Mr. liiiiig.'viu. I lit!;iiil ii s|H'i!ob of Mr.
Gautliior tho iiioiiilier of the ("ounty for tlio local house. I ditl not l>ay iiiiifh attention to it, M
I waH not an elector but I can rememlter that he Haiti that ho hold wore to thiH election than
to his own, and thut he had got money to coiiHtruct hridgoB in St. tJrbain.
Oro88-ExaminkD.
5010 Pit'* Oilbort is a poi-son who i.s naid to hf. in dillloulty willi hin < 'iiro. Tlie iircsent
dep08i*'on being road to the witnesH, he jKn'sistH in theHame, declarcHit containnthe truth and
cannot sign.
Taken anil .in-t>rii he/iire m« in open Court at Midhav; thi» \Uh ilay of Awjutl, 1H7(j.
A. B. ROUTHIER,
f^m
J. a. c.
■■^iri -ty^l^
171
PROVINCE OF gUEBEC.j SUPERIOR COURT.
liutrkt o/ Sanufnay.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT. 1874.
5020
Malbme, thib llth day of AuguBt, 1876.
Pbkbent
:_The Uon. a. 13. UouTiiiEB, J. 8. C.
No. 14.
lillABSARD BT AL.
Petiiionen;
The Hoh. H. L. LANCEVIN,
Defendant,
Pelitionera' Evidence.
the merits.
u nu . .f stt Iren6 the last Sunday before the voting, and licard the
sermon dehveved attci mass, i^u »•"
and to listen to the advice of our cur6.
The Defendant declares that he has no cross-questions to put,.
5040
TK. p™».t a.ro.i.10. I,bg ««. u. .U. wi.„»., U, p.™.» » .1.. ™, «.«. i.
A. B. ROUTHIER,
.1. 8. C.
172
IMlOVll.l'E OK Ql-KBEO.) SUPERIOR COURT.
TIIK DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELWmONS A-OT. 1M71.
Mauiai., VumiMt 1 1 Hi, l^'O-
Prksent :~Tiin Hon. A. B. llorriiiKU, J. S. C.
6050
No. H.
BUASHAIU) KT Ai..,
I'fiiliiiiwra ;
V8.
TuK Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Defendant.
Evidenee <m the part of PetUionen.
Malvina Dionno, wifu ofSomphin Lijoio, of the parwh of Malbuie, Ix-iiiK duly 8worn xx\mx
till' Holy Evangelists, tlotli depoHO iind say:
1 uiu aciiniuiitod with tlui parties in this cause. I am n.'ither rehitwl, nor of kin to, nor
servant, nor in tlie employ of any of them. I am not interested in the event of this suit.
r(.r.(. During the hust elretion, I went with my husl.and to the residence of Mr. Perniult,
' of Malhaie, lawyer. Having con.o to the Village, we met Mr. Perrault opposite .Mr. Collar.rs
phiee ; he asked ns to go to his oHice ; we went. He asked my hushand to sign the r...,uisilion
to Mr. Joseph Kane, a notary, and he added that if my husband would sign it we should never
hear anything about the law "costs which we had incurred. The costs ho Hl)oke of were those
of an attachment ii. revudieation he had taken against us on behalf of my husband's mother.
My husbaml answered that if the matter wore stopiH.d, if he (.Mr. I'.) wouhl keep his pronuse,
h,. would sign Mr. Kane's rcpiisition. My husl.and then signed tlui rtM,uisitiou. Mr. Kane
was spoken of as a candidate at that time and the above mentioned re.pdsition asked hin.
to becoino a condidate.
My husbanil and 1 saw Mr. Perrault another tune, wliim we had gone to his office on
^070 busiress. ' It was still during tlie election, being about the eighth or tenth of January. Mr.
Perrault asked my husband if he would still si.le with ti.em, that is to say with Mr. Pcrraulfs
party and he added that the aiudidate had been changed and that the Defendant was then
their 'candidate. He said to us : " I iromisc that the suit will drop n„d u shall never hear
,i
m
\
178
of it iiny inoro if you si.lo witii us." My liu.sl.au.l iinswcivil t'mi li -• liko.l -.w wrll tliat tli'^ snU
wouM U\u: |.l,i(M' u.iw as latoc. Mr. I'frniult i-ejoinud: -Lajoio, if you keep your i)ro.uise, f
will keep uiiiu;."
I afterwards went alouo i-O Mr. i'rrnuilt's. towai'iU tlio cml of April. He sai.l to me :
" You aro tbo oauHi- wiiy tin; suit is pusliod oa to-day, bs-ausoyou pn'viMitcd your liusliaud from
workiiiL; with us.'' £ auswer.-d liiui tiiat .siuco tho suit umst l)c iirocoeded willi to tin' imkI, I
5080 liui'^'il 'li'- '■*'""''' woidd iii-to out iiisticf lo us.
Wo did uot foar the issue of the suit, liocausc we had a do.vl of douatiou, tlio couditious of
whicii wo had ailh-red to. My hushaud oftoii camo to the village on account of that suit, b>it
he never attaehe.d importauco to it.
Cboss-Examin'i:i>.
I was there when my husband si-uiid Mr. Kane's requisition. Seraphin ViUeuouve ot
Malbaie, farmer, was not [.resent wiuni my husband si.^m'd Mr. Kami's requisition.
The second time Vfa wont to Mr. I'errault's, my husband said to him : •' if you keep
your promise, I sImU keep mine." Tne secn.d time we went to Mr. Perrault's, it was not
about the election, but on busin(^ss. [ cmnot roinenib,-r on wiiat busini'ss it was.
5090 (yuM^/y/i. — Please state how it is that you recollect tho date of tho Hth or 10th of
January, and are unable to recollect about what business you went to Mr. Perrault's i
.•l/(.s'»vr. — It is because my husliand di.l not say on what business he went there.
<.*»<'.s//y». -Please state how you recollect that it was fr h.i the 8th to the KHh of January.
.■l„.sH'c/-. — I recollect it was the 8th or IDth be.cause a moiitii be,^ins by one and is
terminated by its last day.
I did not look into the newsi.apers to know whit .lay <>( the wck tiie 8th or the 10th
was. The sticond time we went to Mr. Perrault'.s, it was iu l\w for.jnoon. 1 e uuiol s ly svhat,
o'clock it was, as I ha ' no watcii ami thin-e was no clock in the i-oom.
1 swear that I don't know on wu ii. date of tlie ai .ath it, was when I went to Mr.
5100 Terranlfs for the taird tim, , in the month of Apal. At that time the above mentioned sui >
was uot termi.iatwl; it ended only in the month of May. That tiiird time, I was alone with
Mr. Perrault. I had gone there in or.ha- to enquire if \m iia I written a letter [ had aske 1 him
to send to St. Treneo.
When my husband signed the requisition to Mr. Kane, I was in the .same i-oom as he,
and saw him signing ; it was in th , law otlice of Mr. Perrault, who was then present ; it was
he who wrote my liusband's name ; my husband does not know how to write his name.
The above took pl.ace in the tirst room, I did not go into the otlice whicii is in rear.
My husband signed the .said requisition about the 18th or IDth of December. I nnnember that
date, because Mr. Perrault made me take notice of it. My iiusband never told .m> for whom he
5110 would voie, but I supposed ho was for the Defendaut, as he had prou.ised Mr. Perrault to si le
with him.
174
Qittistion.—lii it not true that you knew ilui-iug the oloctiou for wliich camliilate yoiii
husband was 1
Answfr. I did not know for whom he would vote, iis he had never told it to ine ; I only
knew what he had told Mr. Porrault.
The tosgoing depoHition being read to the witness, she persists therein and declares tluit
it contains the truth and that she does not know how to write her name.
Taken and morn before me in open Court, at Malbak, this llth July, 1876.
A. B. ROUTHIER,
5120
J. s. c.
I
175
PROVINCE OF guEBp:c,
SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT IS74.
,lec,i.n of a M..l.r f.r ,k. Hn.e of Co ..nsfor U. H,.r>ora, IH.nC of CUrUroU ^
Mali'AIE, I'Jth day of August, 1«7G
Present :— The Hon. A. Routiiier, J. 8. 0.
No. 14.
5130
BRAS8ARD et al.,
Petitioners ;
AND
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Defendant,
Petitioners' Evidence,
The Hon. H. L. Langevin, of the City of Quebec, bei.g duly sworn upon the Holy
Etangolists, doth depose and say :—
I am the Defendant in this cause.
Having taken conununication of an article published in the Co.rrier ''« ^':-"^; ^^
U vMUfe talce ^^ ^^^ Charlevoix," I declare I beheve that
have not been told who it was.
I take co.umunication of the two foUowi.ig paragraphs of the said article :-
" anything worth lianging ("» <"«;' vmdable).
.The Charlevoix clergy therefore courageously entered the struggle and they endea
. vouredlle^ the fight witLl possible prude -aini.>g w.h.n the bounds ot
r 1 Kn '' the civil and ecclesiastical laws."
^^ , : ■ , fi.n Pl,.,rl..voix clercv ai-o not a.shamed of having
I am well satisfied that it is true the Charlevoix citri,y " ,
f
I !
176
tloiu^; tliis till y ill'l :ii!ytliili!,' worth li.nigiu^' (icf roiii' /ini'hih/i)."
1 ilo not l;iio\v ilmt ilif Olutili'voix i lorgy cuurii>4i«»iHly huUti'iI the .■^in^^,•,'l(^
opportuiiily I'f kii'uviii^ wlicihtn- Llicy (ILsplaynd couivijj;!} or not. I uaniiot suv .mi
oliTL,",- irt'l to lij;!it {ciiiiiliiUt'-") ; but f lun'i" no MiKsoii to iHili.-Vf tlml tlioy Ikiv
rUOOj.ii'a.i
tlu;v
'VOllii tlio
liiiiLtB j»roscrll>otl by the •■'
I luul no
•r if tlie
I with
]i:siiintictll
CkOSS KXAMIN'Kl).
Will'" ! a.Mivsiifil th« (iloptoiH of ihc- ooiiiity at the chiuvU 'luDi-H, .Mill in oih"i |ml)lic
indotingM, 1 oaiiwil Iho oteotois to uador.stiiml tiiaf tlif ooimly [n'w^U woio m my favoi- mul
Kuiii.ort.'cl mo; but I novor saiil that thr cl. T;,'y liitd iiske.l uio iis a oludMato, j.rcHOutod mo a
loiiiii^ition, or had sigiiod one. for mn.
I did noi. sp'ak of rcsohiMons i)as:-^c.1 or adoi't.'d hy tlio .-li'rgy at Ht. SLinooii ; l.ut I
miglil havo said tiiat, a.rordiiii,' to iid'onnatiou I had, the .-l.M-v '>!' t'"' county had d.rided to
siijiport nil). T never said that tliiiro o^iistwl a vcsohition ailo|.tcd liy tho ulorgy of the .-(.nnty
5170 inviting m.' to W a candidaU-. I am not eirtain wiicthm- it \h at St, Fid.'Io or St. Simeon tiia'
I referred to tiie insignia of honor lonferred upon ine iiy the Tope ; l.ut 1 remember that Mr.
Tr( uibhiy, my opiiouent, having in tho meetings whieii ho achlre.s.vd done Ids be.st t ) ecmviuce
the eleetoir, of my being a man unwortliy of tlieir eontideneo for reasons wliieli lie gave tlieni,
and whieli, lia<l tliey been true, wouhl h.ive alViM'ted my honor, 1 rei.rlh'd his charges and his
utterly false alhgaiions. I tiien showed the electors the badge whieh 1 above referred to, and
askedthem if they thought that the Sovereign Ponlill" would have grant-d it or wonld leave it
to a man siieh as Mr. Tremblay rei.resented me to be. [ did not use that badge to set myselj
oil' Iiefore the eleetoi-s, and 1 would not have mentioned it had it not been for ihi' violent
attacks of my oiiiioneiit.
I inighc very well have sai.l that the voie.; of the clergy is to ho minded, but [ do not
l)eUeve having used the words, " answer the ai.peal of tin- Biohops." I reckon 1 must have
said, while speaking of the Catholic Liberalism, or other subjects treated in the Bi.slioji's
mand.'i.r it, that the voice of the pastor.s is to bo minded. I have not reipiested n^n- solicited
the support of tho clergy of the County. TJiis answer is not, howcM'r, in my mimh a m;gatioii
of what I -ilivady said on this .std.jeet. I did not speak of the clergy's snppn.t lo ihijor
Diifour, nor to M.iAiniO Dufinir, of liaie St. Paul, for tlie good reason that 1 never sjioke to
either of them. I never spoke to .Major Didbur, and 1 declare that the conversation whieli he
proteiuled having had with me is a fabrication.
Ek-Examined.
r)190 'I'll'' ^'■^'■k'- "''i^''' I ^'''"'''' ^'"''i"o •''"• '-'pctiou I wore constantly in (Quebec for at lexst a
year before. I swear that in tlie course of the eami.aign Arr.Treirdilay accMrd m.' of being in
favor of divorce, but I cannot mention any [lartieular ne'eting at whieh he thu^ .v.-uv 1 me. I
cannot say whether it is at St. Fid61e or St. Simeon that I exhibited my badge. .U several
meetings at whieli 1 w.as iiresent 1 8j;)oke of the clergy being in my favor. .\t several mivtings
also I spoke of the Catholic Liberalhsm, and p.irticularly in connection widi the spec-h of lion.
5180
f
i77
M, ll.,ut,u.-t.M.. .l>o .'.UU..I .0 .l...aoy tl,. n,ll •• ot tl.,- .; -^y. H,. c;..auooti..n wluch.
ol ;.;.. .vi.u.a ..otweou M... KuutiuKUu. s,K..h . U.o (■....io Li......,a.n. w. .^« :
l..,„.U.,l.l ,,l.UaMiuisU..of tho (A-owa.wlu. luof,...! H,. i-nnn,,!,... ..lv,„., ...1 Lv M,
i.m ..,.,,. not ana sl.ouUl uot have Cuhuli s :. ooU.agu.., .u.l , .a. a n.m«ut
'''"^:.;I:.l.n.aiaa.ioaof.. a. <.a.,,i., .oa ..an,. ..y U. BUI. V ^.uu....^ ^ v^^^^
„,.,aiu,;ou b.loa,oa.ho wa. .. W cWuLnnl an h..l,H„« U. opauou.. ...pn. I U, th,
MiniHter, aa.l tli.trtom l"' cousi.loroa iiH a LiluM'al Catholie.
When I spoko at ih. pal.li. m..tiu,H I >M no, alway. hyp^th-tioally sp, ak nf Mr
Tr.abl,^a e.al.Uoa .Uh Ta-holic I.il.,.,ali.u. I .a-.t hav.- -ao.e thaa onca sa.,. that M.,
Treuil.lay ^vas a lilKual t.'athulu:, fur th« n,aH,am almvo i,nvou.
r .Iways ,U,l u.y b.st to hoH-'V., au,l I always h.lu.ve.l th« tcaohiags of th. l!lu.r.h. I
l.av.. ,Jlilea«ae'oaaaist,a.s who vote,! .^.r UiU. of .>i..r,.,ia tho saa. -uh.- a.
^210 U^ho I ub..r.:f tho th.a opposition sat aa,l acte.l oa oth.. a.atters to^eth.r w.th th
021U t, liol.cmcmb M ,.„,,,, „iao. of tlu, House Divovoo .aeasares w.re
seutinuit for ia a po,.uhaioa cou.pos.d of a.oa of Uilferoat .roe.ls, and ot wh oh tho Cathohc.
X; I fl;.;: t.o li, 't woah. .. U.,..^^^ .. -aiataia a U r oat if .uch a a.a«ure .a«
made a Goveraa.iMit aieasure.
Q„,.n„n -How do voa explain that Mr. Tro:ahlay has to .„• mad,- respouslMo for a
, I .. M,.' Iluatia.'ton e.nr.ssod outside of tho Ifous. as .. pnvato o,i,/.na.
:':";,,:'::::, ;::,;":.:';:;:»»- ,: ,. » '- - a- -.' -'■ -— ^»
th^. Uovcnuaeat in favor of tho Divorce HiH I
Ml-. llu[itia;4ton wasatUokini,' thL liiiLicy oi vi:„ut,.,. r was of opinion
., , , • , in .1,,. State Mr. Huatia„'ton still reiaami a- a Miaistoi, I was »l opinio
1 :a,;,rted that Adiaiaistratioa, was there.,ro to bo classed a.aoa, the Liberal Catholics,
who are condcamed by the Bishops pastoral latter {,„a„:>e,nr„t).
^stothen-^tionof divorce, tho Protestants on the occasion voted on both HuU.s ot
the H.it or d.v roe, while all the Cath.lios voted against. The protest ot the Catholic, . .
7, „ «ul it wus obvious that, should the Governinent of tho day have been opposed by
^230 ;:^:;;:: rl:;:;:nd, it wou,d ..ave ..eea impossible to ^rm another Uovernmeat whose
Protestant hea.U would have acted otherwise.
ouesuon -Is it not true that while you were a Minister the Government of which yoa
wore a ;!::"; introduee-l a BUI t^.r the re-orgonization of a Divorc. Court in S.. s.ick.
Ans.er.-No measure such a. mentioned ia the ,uestiou was introduced, la.t be.o.e the
• , 4 .1 lov. In Mew Hrnnswick a Divorce Court. Tae Judge ot
Confederation there existed under the law in N. w HiHns ^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^^
that Court being interested in the event ot a suic bioUsht ...to.., ^-. -.,
5220
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f
178
t'\i ill tli.i' iiiit He tlii'icf 111' wi'iiti' Im till. \t(ui<iir 111' .luitiii ill 1)11 iw.i the Ifnu, Sir JdIiii
A. MiH'ilonalil, iiHkiii^ tliiil till rr l>i< n .IiuIs^h nil linr a|i|iiiiiitii'l til liiMi tliu vititKc, Hit' John A.
I)2'l0 MuHiIoUkI I tllOll |ll'(>|l:lll'l| It Kill to llial rlli'l't, llll I mllli'l"! it tl til" llollrt'', Itlul tUI'lllnH toWlll'llN
uin «iii<l " iiM iisiiiil (roiiiHif r'f.il il'iifiiii'') Ht'i'iiiKlt'il liy Mr. I<iuii;i'vm. " 'I'liis iupuniii'.' liciux then
iliHcii.sM'.l, mill till' I'utliolii' iiiPiiilici'H (if tlio lIoUMi) li)!iit;{ iliviiUiil oil till' Hiilijei;t, I itskcil .Sir
.(i)liii A. AliirilimMJil til |iii^l|iiiU'' til soiiui othiu iliiy tin' oonMl.liii'.iliim of tlnit iiii'ihuii', wliirli
wax tloiui. Tiii'li I iiil'iniiu'd Sii .luliii A. M ic luii.ilil tli U nil tin' l!iili'i|ii iil' ( '.ui I'li wine llicii
ill Itnliic .It till) <K 'iimiMiii'ii I ',iiiii.:il, lliat I w.u tl wiili' to diiu nf tlii'iii iiml ulitiiiii iiii
llUllllllitlltis'H lIlL'isillll. I tiKUI't'nIP WI'DtC, lull till' Minll'IIH Ot" I 'i'.llll'lll I'll III. I till' l|llniti.lll to li.'
iiI'miu'Ii .1 iiuiiiii'iit tliiii ihi'v ii't'i'iii'il it to i)iii. Ill' till iluly Coiyix'gutioiiH ci)iii|ii'ti'iit to jiiilgo o'
.jiicsliiiiiH of tiiiit ili;iiMi'ti.r. I'll" ( ' iiii{i-(';^itIou giivo tlu'ir (loc'isioii, wliii.'li »viih sunt to iiu'. It
iiiln I, miiuiiil; otlioi' tliiiiL(s, tli.it u* ( '.it ImliiM we wiiiu not ;it lilii'ity t.) vote for ii nii'asitrc of tiiat
Oj')U kiiiil. 'riiis In wliy, ilniiii;; tlir tlifrt' yiMi.s whii'li foilinvi'il, wliili' I rimliniii.il to lie ii .Miuiatof,
tliii iiiDasiin' WiiH not liikmi up, for liail it lircn in'rinliirr 1 uj^iiiii I wimhl Imvi' witlnli'iiwii fi-om
till' (lovi.rniiii'nt. 1 iliil nut ,isk .Sir .lolin A. .Miii'iiuii.iiil to vvitliiliMW Ir uii tlm ( !ovi.|'iiin"nt on
tliat j^ioiiuil, lii'i'iuini' III' iliil ii'it insittt on his niiM.siir<'. 1 kiu'w th it Hon. Mi. Ilnntiii;,'tiiir
Imvin;,' ili'livfriid tho «|ie('oli in whiuli lio exin-essi)! tliti wi'oii)^ tloctrint! which I havu iihovo
iiinntioiu'd, had thttn.'i.i H.\|irossi'il liis rioutimunt, and I hud no ri'.iHun to lieliovr tiint he litnl
L'haii^Dil liiH mind during tliH fortnight which iiad i'la|i:<«>il .sinci' he had made that H|iet!L'h. I
do not ittiiKjinlier having uunsod any |it'r.sons ontaidi' tht' county to writo to |irit'.sts of tlio t'ouiity
conc'cniing last eU'ctioii. J was not (iiusent at any sonmin in wliiiih thu Catholic Ijilicralisiii
wais mi'iilioncd during the cli-ction, Imt I lujard that in many [ilaccs tins snliji'ct had lii-rii
5260 spoki'ii on. I might liavt! wriltun to .My l,ord t!ii' .\irhliisliii|i, in lliti (.onililaint I iii.uli to
him against cfilain |iiifsts, that letters wiitteii liy tlm Slid |iriests and iv.id liy Mr. 'rnniililay
■ luring the fli'ction had caused me to lose or weru t.ucli as to causo me to lose a great nuiuber of
votes.
I jiositiveiy swear that during the election .Mr. 'I'remlilay has aceuHfd me of being in
favor of divorce.
i did not know xVlfred Dnfoiir during the election. I did not know him ln'f ire, ami !
knew of the existence of a Mijor Dnfoiir in the c unity liil on the thirtiientii of June of this
year, when I saw his name in the Hill of Piirtieiilars. I never hid a conver.satiua with .Major
Dufoiir while knowing I was speaking to .Major Dufour.
5270
Re-Crohs-Ex\minki).
.Mr. 'I'reiiililay spoke niiutli of the clergy in my iiri,'«ence, and stated there were Cures
who wrie not for me, hinting tliereby that tiiev supported him. Towards the end of tho election
ho cea.sed ■linking such allirm.itions. Ho road the letters from the outside priests all through
tho election. The i.oiii|)laiiil that I made to .My Lord the ..Vrchbishop was against the Ileverend
Messieurs Octavo Ainlet, llie eliaplai i of llie ( 'ouvenl of Sillery, in the vicinity of tjuebec, and
Pierre Sa.xe, Ouio of St. llomiiald, also in the vicinity of Quebec. I conipl linod to My Lord
that these two Priests, in letters addressed to Mr. Treniblay, tlie candidate at the election, had
attacked my character and injured my reputation, and I asked .My Lord the .Vn^hbiahop to
cause justice to be roiiderod to me. .My Lord took my complaint in consider it ion. .Mr. Octavo
52^0 Audet made an apology, but Mr. Sa.xi; declared that the letters attributed to him and road by
f
I i
. iirtiiiU"!
,,, ^,,, .. ,1 nu ih. twrniN fifth of I)m-,.m»..'r.-i«htepr
Tlu.y w..«cmt«i.vlymadurm«thow«^k .r.v...uHl ^ ,,, ^„, ,„,.. to ,.luc., tl.Ht ...ul
.. H.,o tUt llov. Mr. Av».lH l-U.^ ru t nt , ^ ^ ^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^ ^.^^,,^.. j,^,,,., ,„
I„ „suUng on.' ... M. • N.;' ^ ^.^„,^ ,.„.„. i,, ti... M.ritimt. I'roviu..-
o.. cl««wi.v. wUo U«.a ai.V„r.nt o,uuu.us^ '^^ %«,.„v,lav but ..y ...y.-U' - i"'-'> -X -"
,.„, UiHou.-ofaiOHec«t..oH*h.cbM.,Hu
• . . r 1 _. A Mil, illitt
5U00 towards .a- .-l'«^l «'"'»"'="'"""' ''"";;','
the EnglWi l.l.n>««. " A« ^"'" ' "^ ' '
,yi^,.a to vote for that Hill... .• -""
The to>vf.oins <1.^1H3«'''"" '*^"" '■""'
aecta.thut it oout,u..»tlH. truth ..ullmH
,„ .John A. M. oualC, I -i.l that, tu.-.m|«
:' „„. i..theHe..u.i«rofaWl.ora...ot.o„....o.
. aken and sworn lo hejou me, <n o,.
,,, sai.l a.,l.o.i.-i.t I'.'.'HiHtH tlierein, ;....!
HECTOK !>■ LANCiKVlN.
a, Mdhaiejinx -^i^t .1";/'""- l"'^''-
,\ •.. UOUTHTER,
J. s. c.
!
m
180
i.RovTNCF, ovQVF.r.EC: SUPERIOR COURT.
r o 1 Q DMrii-l of Saguftiny. I
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
Mai.u.mk, the Twelfth day of August, 187fi.
Present :~Thk Hon. A. B. KcmTUiKB. J. S. C.
No. 14.
BRASSARD kt al.
Petitioners,
The Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Defendant.
5320
Petitioners' Evidence.
r .1,.. i.iiish i.f Malbiue, heing July sworn ui.on the
t'harles Dul-erger, i^rothonolary, of the l..uisli
u„K. Kvincclists, doth (Iciiose and say : —
I know th<! l)aftios in tins c.ium..
of any of th.Mi, and I am not int
e.xi.ensw whioli w.-ir givrn to^ me
eia
„ten.t.Hn the event of this snit. I ,roduco the accounts of
,,v Mr Ta,.le, agent for the Defendant. The.se accounts a.e
. which ... g.^.^^^^^ l^^^^ ^;4 .^^„,,^^ „„,, ,,„,,..r two. .c.
,igU u, nun.her .ud b.,u each ^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^_,^ ^^,, .^,,^
Kxhiia A of IVutu-ne. .s ;;";^^ ^ ^,,„, ^,,,, j, ,aded in exlui.it .1.
™„eerus the persona, e.pen.s ol tl. 1 on. I ^ ^^^^^ ^^ _^^^^^_^^_^^ ^^^^^__.
r '^^^ ''; f :r;;:.:;- :r;;: ::.. of the^hJ on which these acco...
5330 "y >^^-. '^-7' ^^'■;; ^ ; ;r. nt of the De..ndant.
were given to n>e by the election ,^^ ^^^ ^^^^_^^^_ ^^^. ^j^^_,^,,^_
I cannot say psitively when th.y ^^e.e giv.n to uu,
^ ^"T ' "Cblication in the Ca..Un of the extract mentioned . E.ubit ...
It was b.^o c the ^^^^^.^^^^ ^^ ^^^^ ^^ ^j^^ ^^.,^,^„^,.
contains the truth and hath signed.
CllARLKS DUBERGER.
Talwn (inil
, „„„,„ uf.re .ne In ..,en C.nrt, at MaU.i., ,A. ,.,,, .Uuj oM^^/;-- J^^"
5340
A. B. ROUTIIIER,
J. c. s.
( f;
181
PllOVINCE OF QUEBEC, I SUPERIOR COURT.
Distrirl <if Saguenay '
THE DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
F.lecvm of a }hn,hrr for ,he House of Comuun,., for ,he I-leclor.l IHstrir, of Charknoix.
Malbaie, the 11th Jay of August, 1876.
Present :— The Hon. A. B. RonniEE, J. S. C.
5350 No. 14.
BRASSARD et al..
Petitioners;
vs.
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Defendant,
Evidence on the part of the Petitioners.
Franqois X. Gilbert, forty years ol.l, of the parish of Ste. Agnos. farmer, being duly
sworn upon the Holy Evangelists, doth depose and say :
I am acquainted with the parties in this cause. I am neither related or allied to, nor
servant or in the employ of any of then. I an. not interested m the issue of tlm su,t.
I w,i8 an elector and voted at the election in question, I was in Cliurch at St. Hilarion
the la-st Sunday before the voting. I heard the sermon preached by the Cuv^ of that par.sh on
5360 that day.
He said that great woes could befall those who would vote for the Liberal party ; he
said that they would be guilty of a mortal sin and would enter the path to hell.
Objected to by the Defendant as in the case of Abel Maltais. Objection reserved to the
merits.
I heard a speech made at St. Urbain, by Mr. Gauthier, the local member dui-ing the said
election. As far as I can remember, h, told the i^ople of St. Urbain to work and elect Mr-
L.n.evin, which would strengthen him for the welfare of the parish. In reference to that^ he
spoke of public improvements of roads and bridges, for which he might obtain n.oney. Two
brLes h ve been l!uilt in the parish of St. Urbain since the election. He n.ent.oned t e nunes
5370 stathxg that he had discovered a Company which wa« going to work them, and addmg that
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sIiouM tlio said Company fail to ilo it, the Oovenuaeut woulil work thou,, Uv. .-,i,(,kc of tlu'
mad to Lake St. John ; I don't rftmeml.er exactly what lie said, l.iit I know he Hi'oke of a visit
by the Government, and Kaid that tlic road would pass through St. Urhaiu and Baio St. Paul.
He did not clearly connnit himself, but his words fully led us to understand that the electors
would have a better chance of .securing those advantages w.'re they to vote tor one candidatt.
ratlier than for the other, that i.s if they vot.id for the candidate of his choice.
Cros.s-E.xamined.
My nieiuory is not very sharp. The Cure spoke of great calamities. I cannot say what
terms he used. 1 am positive he used the words " mortal siu." He said that those who knew
better and voted for the Liberal party would commit a mortal siu. 1 cannot aay whether the
5380 Cur6 read the Bisho[)s' Pastoral on that Sunday. I recollect only the most salient words of the
said sermori. I did not pay much attention to it.
The foregoing deposition being read to the witness, he jwrsists therein and declares that
It contains the truth, and cannot write his name.
Taken and mom before mc in open court, at Malbaie, thin llth day of Aiir/ust, 1870.
A. B. ROUTHIER,
J. s. c.
\k
18a
i>iioviN(,;E OF QUKBEc. , gy p -.,; [;> |(j -^ qqu ^j.
Distnetnf Sagufntiij. )
DOMINION (JONTROVERTED BI.ECTIONS ACT, 187!
•JdJ'i HIiiU'iii 'If II nii-nil", /:■!■ the lIuiiKv of i'oinwiinf fur tht Hlfctoidl Pi^lricl of ' 'IdiiUiois,
MAlJiAlK, the L'lovuiitli day of A'^iist, 1S7G
PiiESENT : Hon. A. B. Uoriuiiii!
No. 14.
nilASSAUI) liT AL.,
J'llili'iiiii'rs ;
vs.
Hon. H. L. LANGEVIN,
Defmdant ;
Hriitenrc mi thr /Kirt of Pi'titioiirrs.
5400 tfyiioiito Villeiwiiv(% itgpd tliirty-tiix, fiinnor, of the iKiri,sli of Sto, Agti6H, l)eiiig duly
sworn on tln^ Holy Kvan<^elists, doth duposo aud suy ; I know the jmrtics in tliis case. I iiia
not related to, or of kin to, or in the employ of, any of tiieui, 1 am not interested in the even'
of this suit.
Objected to by the Defondiint iia to the evidence of Abel -Maltais. Objection leservi'd
to the merits.
1 wa.s an elector anil voted ut the election in ((Uestion. I was present in the church of
St. Hilarion when the Cure delivered a sermon on the election. T cannot :;ay if it was the
Sunday previous to the voting, or amither Sunday ihtring the election. During that sermon,
the Cure said that those who voted on the limo/i' side eonniiitted mortal sin.
5410 1 do not rememljer all ho said, but F remember that he compared i\Ir. Tremblay to
. Victor Emmanuel and Garibaldi. They do not enjoy a good rejtutation in .Ste. Agues ami St
Hilarion. The words which 1 have related sei;nied to mo to have impressed those who were .il
church It was spoken after mass and there was a tight about it.
Ckoss-Exa.minkd.
I was one of Mr. Tremblay'a partizans at the last election. I have not mucli nienioi \
There are only salient tilings like these tiiat 1 can reiuember. I do not rempmber tliat ou
184
that Hiihday tlio Cure reail tli« pHstoi il lottrr of iIk^ I.ihIioiih. I rt'iiieuiljii ^v^ il dial tlit' pii.'^i
saiil tlio word " luortuUy " (iiinrtellemeiil) iu H|ii'iikiiig of sin.
Tlie Ouvu coinparud Mr. Trciuliluy to Victor Emiiiauuol mid Giiribiildi, Uy .liiyiiig iliai
5420 I'f wihhod to do wliat tlicy luwl douu in th.ur wmxUy (a Ifiir placi) . tliut Uioy wimtcd to
destroy religion,
Tho pieHont dej)osilioii being read to tlic witncsn, \w jiorBiHtH in ij^o nanus decluriw it
contains tlin trutli, iind cannot sign.
Tiih-ii ami sworn Id Ih'fvre me in ojieii Coitil fit Malhaie. (hit lllli Au'jnAl, 1870.
A B. KOUTUIEU,
J. 8. 0.
KVIDrlNCKoN liKIIAl.r OF Till: DKl'KNDANT
OMriif i>r Sllk'Hril;;) . V
SUPER! OH COUE^T.
/■.'/m'(('/I
I,,, MINK. N (MNrnoVKliTKl) KI.Kt'TloNS ACT, l^T».
, I' , ' ' ' " .
I'/i 'I'lii III All J' ^'- 1^'">
l'rr>riit 111.' Hull \ i; U' niiiKii, .1. S V.
i:'.; \ss,\ i;|!. ./<//.. rrininii.Ts,
I'.-..
Hull 11 L LWI.IAI.N, ilrl.'UdaUt.
EVIDEHIGE ON BlHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
r,aM.-.i. X»vi.r .lin.rl. miLr I'an^h.r S;, IM.u,,, h-Ur: .Inly ~w..rn u\.>u .1,,. llnly Kvum^.I-
i,„, ,l,,,„..,h :u„l M.ilh : I know , I,.., ar,u..iu <ln. <■:..,-..; I um. M.illu.,. u .vl; n, nor u
...nJion. n,.. n^n.. no. a ,|onuMi,., of any ,,. H.n, . 1 Ik.v ';;;■'-;
wl.al..vor u, >!,.■ ivm.I, o, this M,il ; I nm a .liMu 1 tin. 1 oa,v 11 - U.u
,;;„„,,, „r SI. rrl,ain, a wiln.-> l.ar.l in tl,i~ ,au-,- ; i wa. a. . ,.• < Inir-h o, S,
l-,.,,.in.la.Sanaayl..oiv,la.,"'llin,; .1,. .s Muav n,' '"i'- ^-'l'-^ '^-''^ '^'V;;;'' ;■ ;:;;';,
K.v l!ni .1... i.rioM >:u\ t low wor U a U .ho olortion; luMWro this -onuon i„. h..^, ok. , ol
. ::,i, h'tnotinth,. tnann..,. .v,,o,.,. I ,,y IM.v .liU.,.,; h„ in.-al,.-,! l-; - ^ ■
.;...:, th. -atv .,,o,.. or tho ,.o,,u. or/.,, /v,.A,„,'. an,io: i>,n...,ii.,.t, j";'- ;';;'' ^
10,.,,., ui.i,.-,l to r., Tovo anv .ll-oni ■, . l...au..r tho... ,,..o,,:.. hehl .acvt>.,.t,'s ,H,.M.h,.| . o h la n
V 11 .ho h:Jno, a i:oo,l ivpii.a :on in ,i,o ..ari^h; 'l ..:.• .li,l not say that, hu, un,h.,-sto,4
.;>. .•i,i,onh.,i that so. or .n...n„. : tiu,- w„iv ,,.■. u- 1 ov,.. >' -•;';;^;; :;,;;; V
,,„,.. a„l not sav. atul 1 .li.l not unaorMatul Inn, ... .ay, - I.' y-u u i.h to ha o taso n ., t
, an,l n .•.!,.. ,00,1 in!,:,l,itan, ■. vot,. lik. thom at.l with tho.n ; -hat I ..v -,> . j^ -^
I., U. ii.l.n.-l lo;' I an lo,-too,l li.ul h. ^uM thai thai huvlin:: was ,„vs.ae4 ovc. h) a jk. -n
ia| v<i IVinn pli-i
,il 1 not h.'Uf. aipl 1 '!o not l'-l>'ivo, that iho niiv -ai.l ih
:it tiio-r who voii.,1 i.-ainsl llu' jiafisli
,,i, .n.l i oa : n.n>o,nh..r what !„■ .n.l of Mf. TtvinMay ; I was ,,„ll.,.lcrU a St. I '' '" ' V,
thorn on th.ir ballot ti^Uot.; h- loi,!!.,! that illit., a.o iK-.-ons naiM ho a^~,-.o.l h> Uu dcputv
Iiiiinnj:-''t'ioor.
'1 i
TlicM'iiro many illiterate persons wlio asked to have their marks made for tliem, ami the re-
tiiniiiii,'- illiiors insisted upon their making them thomsolves ; the cur(5 did not siiuak ol' siieiltieo
wilh re^'ind to the cleetion, nor of his own political opinion; I was present when .Mr. One.-iiiie
(liuiihier and .Mr. Langevin spoke at St. Urhain.
Mr Ciuilhier said he had lieen to the nishoi)'s Palaeo, that he had spoken of the olcetion with
MMnsei"-iieur Casaiilt, but ho did not speak of (he A.'chliishop ; in this speech -Mr. (iautiiier spoke
of I lie mines, to confuto some people in the parish who spread the reimrt that if the mines were
-1) not worked it was his fault ; he did not si)eak of the mines in reference to the election of the defen-
dant and he did not make it under.-tood that voting lor the defendant might cause the mines to bo
worked or give advantages to the parish.
I did not hear .Mr, (iauthior speak of a company or of the Government in relation to the mines;
it mav be that he did speak of them; I was not alten.ling at the moment; ho diil not say
I hat it wo'i'd render him a service if Mi'. Langevin were elected, and that the election of .Mr. Lan-
■■■(■vin rni'dita.ssist him with regard to the mines; he then said that he had obtained assistance from tho
loc.il (ioNH'rnment to construct two bridges, hut that he would not speak of them at that lime, that
lie would speak of them after the elocticm ; those bridges have boon constructed since, and are used
bv the i)ublic, particularly by a part of the jiarish; the work on one of these bridges was conduct-
,iic.l by .bwephOilbert, one of .Mr. Tremblay's parti/.ans ; .Mr. (laulliier commenced by giving an ac-
coiuii of his conduct dusiiig the last se-sion, and it was in relation to that that ho spoke to us of
lailroads and of the assistance that he had obtained from tho (lovcrnrnenl ; last autumn a petition
had been sent in to obtain the a.ssistancc of tho (lovcrnment, and was signed by those interested ;
Pitre (iilbert has a very bad reputation in the parish : ho is always quarrelling with some one, ami
(•veil with his cure; from the general character which Pitre Gilbert possesses I would not believe
him under oath.
1 k-now Dominiriue Duchesne, a witness heainl in this cause.
The cure never spoke of people who were sick, and who were in the habit ol' going to see him,
;ii>leud uf goini;- to .soc tho High Priest, lie did not siiy that the clergy had united thom.selvcs
5(1 together, that tbev had (diosen the Tuan that we wanted, and that it was .Mr. Ijangevin.
Mr. Oncsimo Guuthier did not say in his speech that he thought more of the election of the
di'lendant than of his own ; he did not speak ol the advantages which might result by voting for tho
deiendani, cither tor the advaiu'ement of the mines or that tho G.)vernmont would come and assist
in causing the mines to be worked ; what the cure had said in the pulpit in no way influenced tho
elections.
,So likewise for the sermons of the neighboring cures with regard to St. I'rbain.
P.efore tho arrival of tho defendant in the county, since the vote upon the amnesty, the parish
of St. Urhain had decided to vole against .Mr. Tremblay ; the parish had signed a petition in favor
of the amnesty of RicI and Lepine, and Mr. Tremblay made no account of it; we understood that
^„he would be a" .Ministerial, even though he presented himself as an Independant, and it is for ihat
reason tluU the parish changed.
CROSS-EXAMINEn.
1 do not remember what was the subject of the sermon thai the cure delivered, after having
spoken of the election, and I cannot explain why 1 remember that he spoke of tho election, and
cannot rcmemljcr tho subject of the sermon preached iiic same day ; one can remember elccHon
.f
3
nffairw hotter (hiin reli^nous alliiirs, pnitinihirly when oi.e has tivlKcd of llicin for a lonj,' time; \
swpar lliat no person, oilier tlian my futhor, has siwkcn to mo of what lUiiew about wlial tlio cure
haJ said with rc^'ard to tlio olcftion.
Tho fuio had said that tlie inhahitants of tlio DMiarge had had a good harvest the year before.
-((and thai since thai, they lielieve themselves more than they were, or somelhinj; to that etrect.
I cannot swear that the euro iliil not say that without him and the !,'oi>d inhahitants tho iieo])lo
of tho Dci'hnnje would not have neon ahle to sow their farms tho year before but I do not remem-
ber that he did say ii.
1 eann..l swear that Mr. (lauthier did not say that ho had a letter from a person who spoke of
n company who wanted t) buy the mines, hut I swoiU' that he did not say that in default of a <om-
pany, tho Government would work the mines.
I'itro (iilbert is looked upon in the parish as a liar, for a man who has taken many false oaths,
a' d who has made a frau<lulenl bankruptcy.
I caniKil name any '.ther person than Alphe (Jauthier who has thus spoken to mo ..f the bad
SO reputatiiin (lifiilboit in tho parish.
The tjreater number of tbo<e who spoak thus of Cilbert are persons who have had quarrels
with bim.'<)n the other han 1 there are some who have had nothin- to do with him; 1 do not know
who was wroni,^ or who was right in tho quarrels (filbert had, nor who li;»d begun.
(Jilberi has never been in i.rison, and he i>( an escaped prisoner—because he missed going there
and he was condemned to pay a tine, and he could not j.ay it-they went to arrest him and he hid
him.self, that he might not bo arrested ; I know nothing about this affair; I do not know whether
•It tho time they had aiiv right to imprison him, and whether ho had made an appeal. If they
ean.o to arrest "me when 1 did not feel myself guilty, T should try to escape pris,m, but if I felt
myself guilty, 1 should allow myself to be taken to jirison.
0(1 I'rivafely Mr. (lauthier told me that he expected much from the election of tho defendant,
' f have no knowledge that, excepting from the pulpit, that M. le ('ur6 Kafard concerned him-
self with the ekclioii or spoke against Nfi'. Tremblay.
FA-erv i.or.son in the parish of St. Urbain does not road tho newspapers, there are only a very
small iHunberof persons who read them ; 1 cannot say who informed the electors of the vofe of
.Mr. Tremblay with regard to the amnesty ; tho petition which wo presented asked for the amne.sty
of .MM. Kiel and Lrpine. ]icrhaps of some others besides.
I .lid not know that there were a great number of half-breeds who were in the .same po.sition
as liiel an.l I.epiiie ; It was kiwiwn that Mr. Tremblay had v.ned to have Kiel ajul T.opine banished ;
tho-e persons who informed us of ihe vote of .Mr. Tremblay, di<l not tell us th.at be ha,l voted for
inna complete amnesv in favo- ol' all the other halt-breeds impli.aled in the troubles ,n the North-
west xvho were in'the same position as Kiel and Lepine ; 1 do no, remember thai he told us that
Mr Tremblav had voted for putting at liberty, or finally liberating, Nault Legimoiure and the other
half-breeds who wore in the posili(,n of IJiel and Lepine; I do not remember either that they fold
us that the opponents of Mr. Tremblay had ennsod Lopine to ' condemned to be han-ed and had
outlawed iliel.
1 do not know e.Nactly what vote Mr. Tremblay gave, and I do not believe (hat any other in
the parish except Ml', ({authier and tho cure knows bettor than I.
!^
Ml
!
^'»i(
I CJiniiot say positively \vhoili3i' tla' [lari.-li \v!i-> tiirru'l aij;ainsl Mr. Ti'otnMay at tlio time of
tlio cloctioM of Mr. (iaiitliier ; I cannot saj* citlioi' in wluit your, iioi in what pari ol' tlio yo.ir, the
1 iQ jiari.sh waH thus turned ; wo had a.sked for a cninijloto amnesty, ivnd Mr. Tremlilay voted lor sendinjj
Kiel and Lepinc into banisliinont ; I can swoiir that Mi: Tromblay voted for sondlni,' IJiel and
I,c|iine into l'alli^i^ncn(, and it i.s in the same manner liial I liavo sworn to all F ]\ave said uj) to the
pre.-ent lime, and if 1 have i^aid anything contradictory it is bocauso I have not understood the
question.
1 cannol I'cmembcr wlielher in Jii.s oloction, Mr. Gauthier wpoko again.st Jlr. Tremblay ; I swear
positively that I remember tiothini^ about that ; I do not romombcr either whether Mr. (iauthier
spoko to mo of Ml'. Tremlilay iliiring the election of Mr. (iauthier bitnsolf; I did not knov/, durins^
the said election, if .Mi-, tiauthior was thon aijainst .Mr. Tromblay ; [ boliovo to have road in the
Kmivcau Monde, and in tho Semaine A'jricole, that Mr. Tromblay voted as I havo said above ;
120 1 take those two journals.
RF.-EXA.MINED.
Tho sermon of tho sixteenth of January had no connection with tho election.
RE-CROSS- EXAMINED.
I (lid not reflect well when I replied to the (pie>tion which was put to mo on tho ro-examination,
for I remember notliing of that sormon, and consc([uer,tly, I cannot say thai it did n(jt treat of (ho
election.
This ilepo^ition being ro;wi over to the witness, he porsisteth therein, dechiring that it (lonlains
the truth, and hath signed.
(Signed),
F. X GIRARD.
Taken and sworn 1
before me, in open Court, at .Malbaie, this |-
ItUh of August, 187U.
i
(Signed),
A. B. RoUTiiiEii, J. S. ('.
CuAs. DuUeuoeb, S. S. C, D. S.
II
HI
ITovinc- n( (}.h In .•. ) STIPERIOR COURT.
Distiii'l ni SiiKiiiiiii). S -^ v^ ••-
♦ •«■• ^*
DOMINION OONTUOVKUTKD ELKOTIONS A(JT. 1S74.
Present— Tho Hon. A. li. Kou'iiUER, .T. S 0.
N... I 1.
BRASSAllD, It. III., I'.'titiouevs,
Hon, II. L L.vNdKVlN, DelViidimt.
E VIDE MO E ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
May.iin
Diifimr, audi liriv-tour yoar.-
lilai'ksiiii
th. i)f Baic St. I'aiil. Wws, <U\\\
worn oti trie
;j()
llc.ly !•:
vaiii:i'li-i--- I'l'l"'
jlh anil sailh
lihow l!u' panii's ill lliis
1 ani nc'itluM- a relation, nor a ronnc
clioM. nor a servant, nor ik
inic-t ic ol anv
)!' Ihcni ; ! have tio iiitcre;
,t in llic result of this suit.
1 am the father of
.\lfre.l jtiifour ol liaie St. I'anI, hla-ksiuitli, major in the h;
liie vohmleer militia, a witness licai
il for the iielitioners m tlos cause
itallion oi ( 'harle-
1 am aware lliat
.Mireil Dnfoiir he-'an iiy takiii.i; part wi
Ih Mr. Tremb'av in the la^l elerli'iii.
Aflerwai
ds 1 n\ot him severa
veral times, and in s
peakin.ii of the eleetion, 1 said to him, " 1
thai vou ar
e iK'n'iiHiini,' lo li'o war:
Iv into t
he oloeliori ; 1 am ^'oini^ to ;,'ive you some advice. ; you
know that you have a small pla.'e from the (iovernment, i
t,il is belter for vou not to eoncern yi
nth it at all.
Ho L'ood enou<'h to tell what you salt
10 (Question. — 150 g
snli'ieet ol his situation, if he waa goi
'Premlilay.
Ubjeeled to as lieing sugirestix
Objeetiun maintained.
I to vour son during the eletlion, on the
ng to lose, his place because he
showed himsell lo he for Mr.
Defendant requcs
ts that the evidence of Alfred Dufour may be road to the witnes.., so at* t
make him acquaintee
1 with the facts which concern the witne
s witii regard to tiie eonvorsatioii
reported by AllVea Diifoui',
The petitioners object, because this woidd be to suj.
"•est to the witness what he should say.
n
\M
li(i (Icli'iidaiil i> rfjccU'i
1 I'fll' lllf lillH'.
i'lu' illlplillltil'M (il 111
Thill is ill! 1 siiia I" iiiy soil Willi ro^'iini lo liis|iliH'o
1 lold him lh;if il iiii;
rhi
iircroiis ; hu iiiii;lil I^m' liir- pi
jv workiiifj; I'or I'i
llii'i' Diiu iir I In
( llltT.
N(,l,(«lv iliivi'liMl \w I" >iH'iiU liiiis K. Miy M'li.
W
H'li I s:ni
|m iiiv son
lh:il it \v:is (|aii;;-cri'us li>r In
Ml 111 w.ii
k liir oiihiT
■aiiiiiiliili'
I (li<l not
loll him that i
1 would In' more daiiKi"'""'*
lor him to work loi' one ralhi'i
ihau Col' lilt' ollu'i'
1 (lid
not OVl'M HR'UllDIl 111
Ihc iiaiiu'> ot'lhc candidaU'-.
(^IH'stioii.
■ \\v I'ood oiioilnh to -.I}'
,-h('llicr \oii lold your soil
Ihiil hi' would liiM' his jihux' irii8
il iniiiv lor Mr, 'Pri'iiihlay ihan u
Mr I.
UliJl'Vlll
( )li|(.'i'lcd lo as siiiTi;
r.r(...-,Livi; ijf llic! aii^wi-r
iiil)
Oiijcctioii maiiilaiiii-'ii
CKoSS-KXAMINKIi
I wa- a [larlisaii o
I did not coiKTrii m\
flho lUd'iuidaiii ill ihi' olci'lioii in (iik'sliiiiK
.-(.■iriiinidi with tin' tdcclioM, In
il wlii'ii 1 had oci
■asioii to mi'i:l [ifojih? and
talk w
illl tlicm llboiil the idrrtii
iko lo tht'iii ill lavorof till' del', iidanl.
On tho occasion i
I which I spoke a lltllo while u.iio
I lold mv son ho would do much hotter t.
<ce]> hiins(dr c|ilii'
t, that Mr. L u
lifeviii, Ml
Price anil Mr. (nnioii, had p>t him his place; 1 did not
uy I
hat thcv would cail-e him to Iom) his place
hut I Haid thtil Ihero mif.;ht ho dani^er of his lomiif.
liis place; I wauled to tell him ih,
il he won
Id he in ilaii,i;vr ol losiiii; his |
,lac(^ if he meddled with
liie eleclion.
1 swear thai mv son worke
(1 as hard for Mr. 'I'lcmlilay at ihe '
lid of I he election us at th^
lieirinniiiL:
M'ler 1 had -]iol<eii to my son as
1 liave heliirc said, 1 was iincomroila
hie ahoiil lioiiie; lo hl«
liouso
wore no
1
was llius uiicoin
mlortalile almul u'oiii;;- to liis iioiise
because tho Dana
lis hrolhers-in la
I lor .Mr. Ti-cnihlav, and hy <'oiiiiiiiiinj; lo K"
there
I (eared localise dillereiicos holwoei
them an
lja-iL;eviii.
I him, hoeau>o ihov might h
iivo hoiiovod that 1 went Iheie to lorce my so
II to work liir Mi
I am not aware
that al'ier the convcr
laliim that I had with my son, he canvassod for Mr.
lav; I do not know it he worked, hecausi
Trenil
him; J think that when my son swore
I did not ''o to his house, ami
I did not follow
that alter what had hoeii said
him he did not dare t'
ISO work liir Mr. Tromhlay, lie spoke the truth ; I cannot say hecause
Diiriii" tho oloction I met Amluoiso Trudollo, eariionlei
I did not follow him.
was gi
inu lo vote for
Mr. Truniblay ; 1 answered liim thai he
Malhaie; ho told me that my m.u
more than I did ; for I
Liiew much
ilu
1 not know wlio lio was goms to
vole for; I oll'ered to hot wit
h him that ho would vote lor tlio
defendant, hut that was hy way of jokiii-
1 thouirhl at that
time tliat ho would as soon vote for
Mr. Tromhlay as for Mr. Langovin, for 1 novo
r uigoi
I was nerved with a suhpiena to coino and appi
1 him lo lind out his opinion,
ar here this morning.
IC
'I'lifV camo to llio I--lan.l ofOiUatH to fotcli ni« to lomo aiwl ii\>]m\v I.itc , 1 do not roinoinlH ,•
ll,o num.- of the pcr-on u 1„. cMMK. to R-lch in(.;Tl,Mt i.r.N..M KiM liH.a.l. ,o lo lulcl. iiu. ,m
till' part of Ml'. I,aiifj;oviii.
lOi) I aniv.^l licivoii Sauinlay at il.iir uvU<vk , I wa* ml paid tl.o .'NiM-n^oH ol' im> j.>m-r,.'y Iun.
I am .-laying;' i'l Malbai.', v.illi Mdo. IJivi'ivo, wlior.^ \U" ili.rcai.lant i-* Imardiiif;.
TliiH dcpo^ilion beiti^' read to llif \viliio>.s, lio laTMsU'lli'lho.vin, licclaiiii;? tliat il I'oiiiaiiif. ll,>
truth, and that hi> cannot si.^rti.
TaUon and i-wirn )
•j>w mo, in (ipcnCo irl, at Malhaio, the -
L'l.-l Aii'nist, IHVl!,
(SitJIHid ),
A. H. I'.iHTniF.n, J. S. (',
t'llAH. l»rl(K!!OKIl, I'. S. ('., I).
vovhu.. .d- (ja..ia..., I SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION' CONTUOVKUTKD ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
Election of a .ilniilirr .or the l/omc nf Comm»m, for the Ehrtorut Vislrint of Ch,irlevoix, Malbal>>.,
tirmtyjir.'-l ihiij ot Aiiijunl, 1>^7<!.
[>,.,.s,«nt— Tlu" lloii, A. IV KdUiiUKK, .1. 8, C.
N'o. It.
(> lUiASSARD, fl.al., retitiouors,
vs.
Hon. II. \j. L.vNdEVlN, Dofeiulant.
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
AiiaTii Siniard. a^^cd liiii'ty-two yuaiy, farnici-, of iho I*ari>h "f ."^i. I'lliain. l>eiiig daly hwoim
n])on tlio lloU' l'!vaiii;rli>t.<, ilopoMMli and >aitii: —
J know the ])arlio> in this caiu-i" ; I am neither a rchition, ik.i- a conncetion, nor a servant, n"r
a donu'.^tic of any nf Iheni; 1 havo no intci'ost whatever in the result of this suit.
[ was at Mas at Si. I'rhain on the Sunday whicli preceded the poljinir; the cure did not speal<
in liis sermon of sorviees with I'elation to the vole of the electors ; ho did not .-peak of his sorviees^
2(11) nor of the seiviccs of the irood inhahiianls; llic ei .'e did nf)t say that hy votini; for a candidate
the voters would a.-surc tlicnisclves of lii.s services and tho.sc of the good inhahitant.s; the Cure .said
siolhii!!,' to induce the electors to vote for a eandiduto in order to a!i,suro themselves of his BervicoH.
and of tho.«e of tlie good inliabitants.
ICIlU'lIIIilT
liiT llmt ill liiN M'lrnoti llic i iir(^ Hpdko nl lilm wlm lii'l.l im riiii;,'^, an 1 -iii.l ■ i. in, 1 1, in;
lO III! II lilt")) III
ltd ri'lirlll
A I ilm plino ''iillt'
il till' Ih'ihir.ji-, IhiTO lire alHml Ion cluctoiN ; llio iiiro diil iM.t ,<\n'ii\i ol
huurt with ri'^'ai'il l» tlio vote of tlio cleelorH, iiinl lu' 'liil ii'if »ay llml iIhki
^llOII
k< wilholll
III vole a;,'aiii;<t llii" iiiiij'iiily
wh
I'lii-t <li<l ii'it way (111! w M
if till' pnrili, ho slioiilil Ciinsiiler a>* jionjilo withoiit hi'iirl; lh.i>
I ^arritli'o ill that i-nriiioii i ho liiil not ^ay tlial hu was g<)iii« li> inal
ilOwaciititT* to rliaiigc hia uiiihicii, ami hu iliil in.l link iho |,im)J.I
If lu IlUlliU ^
■UUlillws ti« Villi' ill lli:lf
(•Icrlliill.
I ill) iiiil iTiiii'riihi'i- llial thi" iiirt'i |iiiiiiiiuiiiim1 tho wor.l "huaiNli
Trcmliliy, mill if ln' had proi
iiaino o
III, rc'^'iii'il In Mr
I it 1 "think that 1 kIioiiIiI ri'inonihiT it ; In' im'iilii.tieil noitln-r th
,1 Mr. Trcinhlav, nor that ut' Mr. I-an^'i>vin, oxiojit to -ay that llu-y nm-t U- liNii-iioil to
|,olili'ly whon ihfy nIiouM coinc to hjifak at iho ihilirh iloor.
Tho lUiO nai'l nolhin^;', an
I I iliil not umli'i'^lainl that hu onUiiivoriMl in imliuo tin' tli'rlurN |.
iti' oithor for Mr. Tiviiihhiy, or for tin; ilcfonilaiit.
1 waH iii'isfiil when Mr. OiK'^inio (l:iiilliicr npoki', ii
I I'liiniian
I'riiaiii ; Mr. tlaiithior flifl K''^'^' ""' "" "^■""'
220 tho miiios lll•l'all^'0 lio waH
H]ii'ak with ri'naril to tho clootiori, iiiiil «aiil i.oihini,' ti
y with I ho ilffi'iiilant. iil Si
nl of his ciiniliul iliiiinj,' llio la>t M'.•«^ion ; ho sjioko ot
j;, hut ho liiil mil
laii'l Ihal il was iiioio ailvaii
acoiiNOil ol' hoin;; tho caiiso that Ihoy wore not woil
> iiiako us umhn''
tagoi
to volo for Iho ilolomlaiit lor llio |)ioi^ru!.M ot' tlioso nllno^
lie iliil not say lhal, ho hail a ooinpany
icooil that lliu (iovirnnuni w
mill oonio to its as.-.i<laiico
to hturl the niiiios, ami lliat if this ooiiipany diJ not
Mr, (iaulhior iliil not i lion sooak of llir
AirhliiHlio|) of tiliol
I iliil not umloislanil, am
Mr. (Iniilliior siii'l in his ,-)ioorh that Iho i
1 1 ill) not holiovo that aiiyhoily umlorstixKl, that
I'clioii of Iho ilofcnilaiil nii^'ht ho favorahlo to llio
f tho N ■nil .Shoro IJailroail, or of any olootor of .St. Urhaiii; ho spoko of
intorosts ol tho iiiiiios, o
tho Norlli .Shoio iiailioail in j;iviii.i,' an acoount of his I'a
I'litary
•illlillU't.
Ill' inl'oinioil us lhal ho IkhI i
ihtai nod assistance from tho Loral (lovornnioiit to coiistriict two
2;j()|illhlic h' iilj;i'- ill ''si. I'lliail
hill that hi- would not coniorii hiiiisolf ahoul them at that prcsoiil tiiiio,
thai ' would .soo ahoul thorn aftor 11, iloolion.
.'SO !iri'lu;os woro ooiislriii-lod at liio oi
thoso hriil''(,'s with regard to tho cleotion of tho ilofoiidaiit, hul only in g
ml of April, ho did not npoak of tho oonslruclion of
aiiit of his
I'lviny: an aooo
V
irliamoiifarv oonduct
'io inalci'ials
!)f those hrid'fos were furnished hy those inlero.-led at .St.
I'lhaiii
I 1.
Pitrc (iilhort is
under oath.
iw I'ilro (I
rt, of Si. I'rhain. a witness hoard in Ihis cause, the ^ciuTiil rei'iilalion of
Icharacler home hv I'itro (iilhort 1 should tear to helieve hi' i
t'jolii the I'eiieral e
I l;tio\\ llnniiiiiiiui
Duchesne, of .St. Urhain, a witness lioard in this cause.
240
Tl
10 curt', in Ins Mriiioii, did not say
that the clergv were united, that they had chosen
candidate, and that wi.' must follow them.
ilr. Oncsimo (Iaulhior, in his speech, did not 'nake any promise to tho eloclors with regard to
the elect ion of tho dofondant.
Tho sermons of Iho cures did not change the tendencies
of tho electors of St. Ur
liain
th.
1 urish of St. Urhain had decided to vote against Mr. Trerablay before the ariival of Jlr. Langovin
i
in tlio ciJiiiilv , since wu li
biiioe .Mr. Trcnii):
iic'd :i putilion, ii.>iviii"- li
113- liiul volud n-'uiiisl ii.
ig- ilio amnesty oC .M.M. n\,.\ ..nd Lopinc, an()
I do not tliiiiii tliat tl
cics of iliu t'loctors of St. Uibaii
le scrniiins oC the inM-ld
"'liiig curus of the county cliau-ed ijio Icndcn-
CRDSS KX.\M[NEI>.
■JirtO When (ho cnie s])oi<o of i]io indiv
tiiiiu'd him into ridiiiili. I und
idiiiil who \v
an oscMjied prisoner. J'iiie (ulb
Mr. Tronihlay tlial he iii
wlii went to tlio>o nieelii
crslood lliat I,e wi-hed to speak 'of i'ii
:is convenin:,' nieetini^s at the Dcchanje, li
I i.^iiorant uian, \^m
lert was a iiai-i
tl
partisan (,t Mr. Trend
liose meelini,'sal the iKrIi
ro (iilhort. JIo said,
iwlni,' neitlier h-iw to read nor write, and
')hiy, and it was in iju; interest oC
Were looked upon as
har.jr. and Iho^e of the e!eet...rs oC the Dichi
partisans of .Mr. Tremhi
There were, pei'haps, others tiiere hesid
i'y-
r<je
les.
Tiie e
iro re|)roaehed ll,ese peoph' with allowin- tl.
not say whom they oii"Iit to allow tl
leniselv
OS to he i^'tiidod h}
fives to bo guided by (iilbert, but he did
I quite understood that the eure said th
2(;i)Gill)ert, but I di
I not understand whether I
at (
loy ought not to fol
opinion, (u- whether i,eou-l,t to foil., w (1
10 meant to sav that evi
ow the ojiinion of Pitrt
le opinion of other:
•ry one ought to toll
:ow his own
I do not renuMnhci' (hat tl
tiio JJer/idi
•'jc would not have been abl
le c-ure said that witi .1 bin, and the good inhabitants, th
o to sow theii' larnis the year beli
peojjlo of
\V
lien tlieeiirL'thussjiokeof the elect
ion, it was belore hi
s sermon.
At the time of tli.at sei
lor me, [ did not
mon, some persons in the parish should have kn<
(lay
niow, and I eoiild 11
iwii who the CUI--
ot ascertain Ironi what he said to us in the pulpit tl
'0 was
bat
(Question.— Is it not true that
this, or sonuithing to II
:it, on the oceasi
10 same etlect ; — '■ Y
on in (|uestion, the cui'e said to you
i7„ prejudices, bu(, arcording lo voiir
ou ought no! to volt
worthy, but on this
coiueielico, I'oi' the candidale t
\'OUI
t'ido it ?
-elves ; you oiin'hl I
l""ol you are not capable of t
o cause yourselves to bo enl
orinmg a siu
i.ghtened ly t
you, in substance,
)ur tancy and your
lal you believe lo bo the most
-cientious conclusion by
dill'' l(
V, con
lio^e who are belter in
!i liositioii
Answer.— Somethin
th(M'C.
may have been said will
> this meaning, but not at Ien<'tl
igiii as 3-ou say
<i>uostion.— How
while ago, namely, '• 1 did ,
yon recoiicilo the answer vou h
his own opinion, or whether he si
lot understand whether 1
ivejiist given with tl
10 meant to sav that e\
Kiuld follow the opinion of olhors'y
10 answer you gave a
ory one ought to follow
Tl
ii«iluestioii was ol
28l)e.xisl in the
answers of t
jccled lo by the defendant,
10 witness.
asiHvsuming a conti'adiction wliici, does not
Objection set aside.
Answer.— It j.s 1
s hecausc of I
I do not i-otnember that
th
laving misunderstood that I replied to (hepreccdinj
le cure said. • but upon this j
question.
'oiut (giving of a vote) you are
10
cnpalilc of forininfj a sure o
nnsc
icntious coricliision hy yourselves, you shouM gol your.^elvos
eiili-litoiiol hy those who are better in a po-sition to do it." If ho ii:ul said tliat, I heliovo I should
rem em her il .
Id he sii!'iii'ised it I learnt that .Mr. Fafard
iiiiself claims to iiavo.said those wcuvi.s.
I remember that in the course of the la-^t winter, after the election, I si<,'ned
laration, at the reiiuest of .Mr. Fafard, and a<-kM..whMl-ed it before Onesinie (^uitliier, .lustiro of
[I solemn
I'.lotlio I'eace
Tl
is is how the thini,' happened : — ^Mi'. l-'at
Xavier(iiranl ; the said ailidavit contained t
l)reached on the si.xlecnth of last .lanuarv.
ird I'ead us the affidavit ijiven by I'itre (lilbert ai
le summary of a sermon that the waid Mr. Faiard
Aft
er havin.i,' read tliis alii lavil to us, ,Mr. Fafard told us tiiat that was not
had ])reached, and that the ailidavit was not correct ;
said, but that it conlain(.-d a 'M'cat deal tha
the sermon that
that it might contain some woi-ils that he had
-Mr. Faliu'd did not then read
rcmemhei' it
t he haiJ not said,
to us the declaration which he made us sign, at least I do not
• .Miestion. — If il
iiiOii
are had read the said declaration to you, do you think you would reni.'mb.
Answer. — I do tl
link It.
Objected by the defendant that the contents of this d
commiimcatinn' il to the witnt
edaration should ha proved, without
The 11
iwiui^ paper was read to the witness:
'We, the undei'sliJiied. sol
;ind sin'ned by Pitre (lilbert ;ind X
emnly deidare, 1st. That the affidavit made before F. Asselin, J. P.
hei-eiinio annexed, in no way gives th
avier (iirard, and desiMiiated as Ko. 8 upon the d
icument
Anil). Fafan
Member for the ('
in tlie Cliurch of St. U
iiiiity of Charlevoix, in the 1)^
le general sense of the sermon proa died b}- thoRovd. Messire
rbain, on the Kith Januarv last, with regard lo.tho oleition of
minion I'arliamei't.
dii
\V
c nosiliv
Jlvd
■ \o. f-
■ Janu
i, as Well as the said atli
iry, norat any other dale duiin'' that
enyeacli one of the nine paragraphs in iiarticular, of the said affi 1
' conlaiiU'd in this affidavit
iivit
avit ill its entirety; wc allirm that neither at the date id' the lOih
ever hear the sermon
electio i contest, di.l we
preached in the Church of St. U
lain bvthc IJev. Messiro I'alard.
•M\
Concerning the -llh jmragrajih of the affidavit No. S,
contrary, has on syvei'al occasions in his ser
we affirm that .Mr. Fafard, on th
mons recommonded us to listen with calmness and
politeness to the speakers of the two iiarlies who might come to address us upon polit
'iiard
mgourselves well from preventing theirspeaking, and giving tl
ical subio 'Is.
' views upon ]
mlilic (|Uestions, because such speecluis were
letn every liberty toslate tl
leir
' learning the truth about political men and tl
<iiir most favorable oj.portunities for
820 " should have to ni
■ Urh
'Quel
lin all th
ilv-e ; wc obliged ourselves to I
lings, and to guide us in the choice which
wo
speakcivs who wished to sjieak, Mr. Trembiav as well
w the advice of our curd in tliLs, and at St.
were listened to with calmness and attenti
as all his friends fi
'om
■4ly.' We affirm 11
" Mr. l-aliird ever tlireatcn to rofu
"vote fwr ^[i-. T'cmbl
lat in his sermon of the llUh of .la
•e spiritual, matorial, or bodily help to
nuary, nor in an^- other sermon, did
poi.son who should
11
" T)!}-. That (lie imlivitliial namo'I Titro fiillicrt, one of tiio sii,'iior. <•(' tlm ufll liivit N.>. S. aihl
"who liiu-* licuii lodki'il uiiDii as the uhioi' nC Mi\ Troi.ihlay's parly at St. Urhaiii iliiriiii; tlio last
" election, ilooH not hear a hi^h eharaetcr for honesty uiiil creJihliity in our locality. About two
" \eais anil ahull' Ui^o, in (•onse(iMcneo of serious frauds a;';aiusl Iho civil law, ol' which ho was
|330 " accused and convicled before the civil courts, u warrant of arrest was issued a-^ain.^l hini, and it
"was onlvbv runniliic away and hidiim hini>elf that ho escajicd from jail, to which he had boon
"condemned by Judicial sentence ; conseiiuenlly, we consider that his allidavil is ol no value,
" tlly. We ileclarc that we i;re not awai'e that duriiii; the last electoral conle>l Mr. Fafanl
"ever iii-oiiouiieed the luime of .Mr.Trenibhi}- in asei'inon; ciiisequenll}-, he coidd not havesaiil iti
'• his sermon iliat thai f;enlienian did not deserve tiie eonlidence of lac electors ; that i.-, a liiinsj;
'■ which it was easy lor n> to undeisland, elsewhere and otherwise.
"Tlv. We aflii'in that '.o oar minds, the counsels width Mr. Fafard addressed to us in th(^
'■ sermons during the last elecloral contest have always been diclated by i>rudence, and supiiorled by
" the )irovincial councils, mandates, or pastoi'al lettei's of the Bishojis.
•{411 " And we mal;e this solemn deelariitioti, conscienlious!)- Iielievin:^ it to be true, in virtue ol
"the A<a passed during the .'>7lh year ot the reign of Her Majesty, eiititided, "An Act for the
"Siilipression of Voluntary and llxtrajudicial Oathw."
Tlie advoi'Ule for the ]ictitionei's then puts the foljiiwing (juesti'in to Ihe witness: —
(Question. — 1^ the iia[)ur which has just been read to ^-ou the declaration which you sit^iicd at
the requesl of Ml'. Fafard, as you have said above ?
Objected to by tliedefence, because the original dochiration is neither produeoil nor read to the
witness.
The hearing of this witiic'ssis adjoiirneil till to-morrow, the twenl3--seeond of August.
I.KI'OSlTlO.N CONTIMUED, TWENTY-SECOND OF AUGUST, 187G.
;j;")(l The obieetion is set aside, seeing that the witness has admitted having signed a written
decdaration ,anil tliai a copy nf this dei. laration is rehearsed lor his informal ion in thenucslion which
has been put to him.
The defendant lakes excei)tioii to this judgment, considering that there is no'hiiig in the evi
deuce whii h jiroves that the abovo-mentioncd paper is a copy of the said ileclaratiim.
Answer.— I cannot say if this writing is (he declaration which I signed, it is necessary that
1 should see my signature at the bottom.
At the reiiiiest of Mr. I'afard, I .signed a deolaratiiMi contradioting the account that Pitro
(iilbeit hail given of the cure's sermon; it wa.s Mr. Onosimo Gauthier and the Cure Fafard, as
wtdl as a great nuniber ot others.
3(ii) The document which I signed may have been read in the sacristy, but I hive no Icnowledgoof
it; I signed the tirst and I went away imiiieiliately ; it was beeauso of what the curd told us that
we took, Us being the deehiratiou of I'ilro Gilbert, the document which , he made us contradict;
there were a great number of persons in the sacristy at that time; after 1 had signed, other
jiersoiis came immediati ly to sign, and the thing was going on when 1 went away.
I do not remember that the document which I signed was read in the sacristy before my
departure.
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Tlicrciulitii; licini^ miulcto tlii" witiio-fs ofn doclaralion, signoii Pitro (Jilbort a'nl Xavior (iirunl
lio isaski'd il'llial w.is iho (loclaratiim tliat tlio euro liail read lioloro liim ami lia I aslcoil a "roal
iiumbor of [n'r-ons lo eoiilradicl liy aiiotlur, llio wilnoss ropliod : I may bo ini-ialvoii, iioi'liaps it
370 may lie il, iierliajis, tno, it may not boil, but J boliovu lliat il in thi; deijlaratiori in niie>.lion.
I know that in the dochiralion fhtit I NJ^ncd it was said tiiat tlic ijccdaration of I'ilro (Ijjbort
was nol conrornialilo to tlio huiinon cjl'tlio cuie.
'I'lic alii lavit ol'l'llio (lilbcrl accused Mr. i'afai'd ot having pronoiinrud tiie words, " Irosiily
escaped out ol' prison;" and in tlie declarulion wbicli 1 made, 1 said tbal lie had nol made iiso of
those words, beciiil--o llie words tiiat lie made u^e ol' wore not the word^ '• Ifesldy osctiped out ot'
prison ; " l)iil only the words " escaped out ol j)rison," willioiii tiie word IVcsldy.
I rcnicnibcr llic woril IVcshly.
(i>ucstion. — Why do yon rciiu'nibcr this word " (Veslily " wiiilst you aro sure of nothing,' which
c<)iH-orns the decl.-iration whicii you made?
•W Answer. — I cannot rcjil}- to that (picwlion.
1 reiiu^inlier that the cure, in speakinj,' of Pitro Gilliert wilhoul namin;,' him, ealled liim tlio
hiifh priest ol (he Dijc/tarr/e.
1 did not understand that in this sornion, the euro Haid, or allowed it to be understood that ho
had chanui'd bis ojiinion, he did not spcalc of sacrilico.
I did not understand at all by that sermon I'or whom the cur6 was; the cure did not call
those who \\e,-c working Cor the defendant high priests, nor pcr.son.s escapeil from iii'ison ; ho did
not tm'n theni inio ridicule.
1 understand that when he turned ilie Chief of Mr. Tremblay's partisans into ridicule, it was
because be was jesting ; because he was ignorant liko nic, and wanted to hold meetings.
'■>'■)'> Probably all those who held meetings for the defendant wore cducited, at least thoy knew how
to write their names ; Pitre (j'ilbert can hardly sign his name; Pitre (iilbcrt is not able lo wrilo a
letter correctly.
(Question.— \v hat ground have you for saying th;it of Pitre Gilbert ?
.\iiswer. — Pecause I Icnow that he has no education.
I do not know myself how lo read or write , I oidy know how lo sign my name ; I say that
I'itrc (iilbert has no education, because I have heard it said by everybody, iind by himself; amoiig.^t
those who told me this was the cure.
1 cannot answer the ipiestion whelher ihr cure .said, or caused it to be underbtood, that all the
jiarish smouM vole on (he same side ; it is because 1 cannot remember it.
400 1 eainiol explain why I do not remember that the cure did Hot say " freshly; " and 1 do not
remember that he said that the parish should vole on the same side; a recollection comes I know
not how.
tol.
1 do not remember whether Mr. (iaiitbier said that ho had received a letter in which he was
company was going to buy the mines and work thorn; bo inav have spoken of il
ilhoul
my remembering it.
R^a
;! ^_^^W^M^'^.
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1 ,|o not irmotnlaT llial Mi. (iiuUl.i.T s!iiil thii! 1k> IkwI Ikvi, t<, the Arclil.i.-hoi)'. I'alaco.
I ,|n iioi licliovc Unit ho HiinUcol' nioMsoi^'nonr, iin-l tliul he sai,l tliul ho ha.| spokon to hitn ul
ll„>clo(tion; IkmIKI not fl.oak <>r any mon«oij,ni(Mir ; ho di^l not sikmU ot .Moimoi^'uoiii- (Jasaull, il
ho did sjioak of him I do not know of it.
.UK It may have liapponod that I did not laUo in nil his spoorh; ho may havo sai.l many Uiiiii;-.
tliat I do not romoiiilior.
loannotsavwiiolhor Iho parish of S. Urhiin was n-ainsi Mr. Tromhiay at tl.) limo ot th.^
oleotionoI'Mr. (iaulhior, I (h) not know whon It was tarnod a-ain>t him ; it was at iho time of his
voto on tho aninosly contiiiry to our potilion.
It was Mr. (iaulhior who hoj,'aM to say l*' l''" P'''^''^ l'""- ^^'' '''''^'"'''".V '''"' '■"^^''' "•-'''"■'' ^'"'
potilion ; Joseph (iirard and Xavior Girurd said ho also; Xuvior (iirard was hoard as a witnoss on
S.iturday.
I Miy that all tho parish wan turnod a.!.;aii.st Mr. TromhUiy; I moan to say tho .ijroator part of
tho jiarish, hocause it was talkod of at tho (diuroli door.
4-;() I cannot sav wholhor it was in tiio autumn, tho sprin-, tho summor, or tho winlor; 1 do not
knowoitliorin what yoar it was; I only know that it was in tho ninoloonlh ooutury ; I v-as u
school comuiissionor two years a^o.
When 1 desertod Mr. Tromhiay for yU: I/u.-evin, on aoeount of the amnesty, it was because I
tiioufrlit wo should have more chance of ohtaininj,' it with Mr. liimLievin.
I do not know wholhur Mr. Lan-ovin over promised the amnesty ; and I do not know either that
Mr. Lan-cvin was four years in power without -rantin- it ; 1 cannot say whether this would have
prevontod me IVom voting for Mr. Laiigcvin if 1 had known it.
I do not rcmomher whether Mr. Langevin .-poke of the atVair of the amnesty at St Urbain.
I heliovo that M. le Cure Fafard has some interest in tho mines at St. Urbain ; 1 have hoard say
■HKltlial ho bought some claims against the company.
1 assisted at a mooting at St. Urbain whore Mr. Tromblay and Mr. Tarto spoke; Mr. Fafard,
the cine, said sonic words; 1 .lo not remember what ho said, but I boliove that lio asked Mr
Tiemlilay it ho had made uso ol his name in some parishes.
To tlie best of my knowledge I u'idorstood on that occasion that he wa.s against Mr. Tromblay.
This mooting must have been a low days before the polling.
RE-EX..\MI.NEI>.
It is about two years and a-half, or perhaps throe years ago, that we signed a petitio n to ask
for the amnesty; audit is of that petition that I spoke in my examinatiou-in-cbief ; I heard tbo
words "freshly escaped f.om i)rison ' in the affidavit of J'itro CHlbort which tho advocate for tho
.14(1 potilioaors has just read to me; in hearing this read, 1 remembered well that the cur^ dhl not
lU'onounco the word "froshly" in his sermon.
Tho cure first read to us tho affidavit of Pitre Gilbert, and then ho said that that affidavit was
not correct, and tluit the declaration contradicted tfio affidavit ; among other things, T remember that
the cuix' then made us remark., that lie did not use the words " freshly escaped out of prison."
"T^, I . ; It ■ III I Hii»f gJWpH
14
I iliil not iinili'r-.itariil tliiil tlio ili'i'laralimi siiiil llmt all that fiillii'i't Iwi'l ^^aiil in Iii^ alTi.luvit vviw
liilhf, lull thill lliori) wurc ox|irt>Hioiis in it wiiicii were nd in lUTDtdanii- witli tho Hormon.
HE-rROSS-EXAMIVr,!).
In my i>|iinion it niuiios a gioat ilillbroncc to say " IVesiily oscuped iVoin pfiMDn " inMtoad <>f
" .'HcaiuMl IVditi prison."
,-,, I cannot nny whethor tlio ollior ilitTorcncoB liotwocn tlio Hormoii, hiicIi an it was report od by
Pitrc tJilinTl mill tlio Mornion nuclias it wan pronciioil, wore riioro HorioiH tlian this ono, Cor I do not
rctni'tnlier them.
1 do not luiow wiiolher 1 should roinonibcr ihoiu by Hvipposiiiy ihoMu dilTorencos to have been
more McrioiiH.
TIhn deposition lioing read to tla; wilnusH, ho porwistelh thoroin, declaring, timl it conUin»
the tiulh, and lialh Hignod.
(Signed),
ADAM SIMARD.
Taken and Hworn 1
'i
(Signed),
A. B. KolTIIIER, J. S. C.
Ciis. DuHkruer, p. S. C, D. S.
betore me, in open ("oiirt, at Malbaio, tho
22nd AiigUHt, 1H70".
E;SAe;-:i SUPERIOR court.
DOMINION CONTUOVERTEI) ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
F.kotion of a Member of tlie House of Commons, for the Electoral District of Charlevoix, Malbaic
'l]st Awjust, IHTii.
Present— The Hon. A. B. KouTUiEB, J. S. C.
No. 14.
BRASSAKD, el at., Tetitioners.
Hon. H. L. LaNGEVIN, Defendant.
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
Clcophasfeote, aged forly-throo years, trailer, of the pariah of Eboiilemenn, being duly sworn
nti tho Holy Kvungolists, doi>osoth and waith. : —
I know the parties in this cause ; I am neither a relative, nor a connection, nor a servent, nor
460 'nl^mc-'tic ot ativ of 1 hem; I have no interest in tho result of this Buit.
' 'SDIf
"1%.
\f,
I ii<ii ii ilio l:i-t I'ltctiiiii in favor of the JolbrKlaiit.
Ii wH-i-iiM at iIk' IfHt elocti'Hi ilifttiill iho inir i- ucic ii;;iiiii-i Mr 'rri'iiihlay , I kiiow uf nuoi
in llu' vnnu\\ ; I wiis tuM ilml tluuo wuf "no in lliu foiinty Cor him.
Ai I'.lM.ulonn'ns, .in ilif xofond Jiinmiry, Mr. Tren May in ii |.iil.lic ispocdi «tulo<l Hint tlwru woro
)ni(' |.ii<'Ni,s ..r iIk- .•'.iiniy lor him, witlioui i.u-ntiMnin« Iho Muniher, antl it wu-. on that ocoaMun
i:it \lr. Vicar (lo-^-olin ih'chiri'.l thai iho cIit^'n woro iinunimou.s itjjainst Mr. Ti jnil>lay— an.l I tli'l
I.T.^ianl him to •lulo thai ilio i'Urj,'y hI'Uh' .-..unlN woiv |,,r Mr. Fiaiii^ovin,
tl
Tho M'rmons of Iho riireM o' Ihooonniy lam no olloct on Ihn lontjoncios of tho oioitors of
HlxaiU'iin-ns, hul J lioarJ it «Mii M.V')ral I'.uo.- '.hat tlio Iml that llio ohnj^y wvro unaninvMis uKulnst
170 .Mr, 'rroi'il>la_\ hail hail an clVoot ii!"'n tlic olootors of Khouiomons— ufion u ^ooj niimliur.
.\l r.liiMiloniLns Iho oiiro only roail tho Ih-lioii:- iimnilulo, uilhont rnaUing any oxnimont,.
<Mn-liiin. I'hM-o>a\ v.hothor .Mr. 'riTnihliiy, on tho soionil of Jamiary, roail loiters from prioNti*
in rohition h. tho oloilion, and ^talo what conimonts In.- inailo.
_\ii^\vor.— YoH, 1 romoinhor that ho roai! iio; I oannol wlato what that lollor oontainod nor
what ho ^aid of ii ; ho did not yivo tiio kI^nimui f tho letter; momio one uskud him for ii, and 1 do
not know wholhor ho /j:uvo it.
1 do not think thai that lollor |iPHliiiod a f^'roal otlVct in tho imrirsh.
r«OSS-KX.\MlNKl>.
A I tho time of Iho nioelingon iho f^eooml January I hi lO wa.'* no qiio->tion of any other lundidato,
4g()0XC'i«]il Mr. 'I'ri'inlihiy and tho dofendunt.
Thifidoiwtsitio'i hoinfj road ovor lo tho witness, he per.Hisleth thoroin, declaring that it contuina
tho Uulh, and hath Hiiinod.
(Signed),
CLEOI'IIASCOTE.
Takon and sworn )
hoforo 1110, nl .Malh-iio, in o|ion Court. ihiH "■■
•Jlat August, ISTIi. )
(Signed).
A. B. KoiiTHiER, J. S. ('.
("has. DrnKiniKii, P. ^. C D. S.
ir,
ProvI.uo«f(Jm.»K.r,| SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
Klection of a Mimber tor the House of Cmmons, for the Electoral Distriet of Cluirkvoix. Malbaie.
the twoity first day ut Aiijubt, 1870.
Present— The Hon. A. B. RouTiiiER, J. S. C.
No, 14.
O. BRASSARD, et. al., retitioners,
vs.
Hon. H. L. Lanoevin, Defendant.
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
I, Xavier De^'ii^'iie, ii,i,'e(l lliiriy-llireo yours, mi.riiior, of Uio i);iii>h of Kboiilomonls, beinjr ,iuly
sworn upon tl.' ll^ly HvangolisU, dcpo.-*otli and .-^ailli : —
1 know llic levities in this caiiso ; I am ncillior a i-ehition, nor a connection, nor a servant, nor
a (loniostic of any of tlicra ; 1 have no interest in tlie result of this suit.
1 was pi'csont on the second oC January, wlien Mr. Trenihlay, and llio delbndant, and Mr.
Cauehon ...kc at Kbonlement,-. :Mr. Trenihlay commenced by saying that ho was liappy that
sovoial numbers of tlio clergy of tiie county wore in Ids favor, and it was tiion tliat ho wa.s
4H(|interruiiled bv M. Vicar tio.vsolin. wlio said thatin a re-union of tlie priests al Baio St. I'aul, ho
had seen several members of tho clergy of the county, wh.) were all against Mr. Tremblay, excepting
Mr. Doucet, whom be did not SCO ; but that he had a moral ceitainly that be was against Mr.
Tremblay, The sermons of the . uics ol the county did not produce any effect upon the electors
of i'lboulemcnts, with regard to Iheir votes.
Al Hboulcments, the cure did not preach about tho elections, tho vicar only read liio mandate,
without any commenl. After having read the mandate, he only said that be believed that the
parishoners were suiliciently intelligent to understand.
The ])etitioneis declared that they bad no cros.s-cxamimition to make.
Tbisdei)osition being read to the witness, he porsistelb therein, declaring that it contains tho
-QQ truth, an<l hath wignod.
(Signed),
T«dien and Sworn ^
before mo, at Malbaie, in open Court, this ^
21 August, 1S7(>, )
(Signed),
Fs. XAVIEIi DE(-iA(INE.
A. B. RouTiiiF.u, J. S. C.
CiiAS. DuBeroer, p. S. C, D. S.
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SSVLe;': i SUPERIOR COURT.
DOiMlNION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874
/i7( I'tion of (I Member of the House of Commons, for the Electoral District of Charlevoix, Malbuie..
the 22nd Aujust, 1870.
Present—TiiK Hon A. B. Routiiier, J. S. C.
No. 14.
BRASSARD, et at., Petitioners.
Hon. H. L. L ANGEVIN, Defendant.
EVIDEfllCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
Augustm Dori^, nucd forty-eif^ht yoai-is, fanner, of the purisli of St. Urbaiii, being July bwoiti
upon tlio Holy Kvangelists, licpo^elli aiiti i-M<A\ :—
I laiow tlic parties in this caiiHo; I am noitiier a rolatioti, nor a ronnoxion, nor a i-orvant, nor
a donierstic of any of tlioMi ; 1 have no inleie.sl in tlie result of this suit ; I have lieen a niuniei|)al
eoutieilior for twenty yeais; the cure spoko of the eleetion one Simihiy wiieii I was at tlio ehureh
ol St. Urliaiii. iluring tlie olcetion ; on that Hun(hiy tiie euro .spoke of a certain indiviiluul who held
meetings at theplaec called the Deehanje; lie called this individual the '-high priest."
The cui-e did not s])eak of his services, and of those of the good iuhabilanls, with roganl to the
vote that they would have to give.
fjH) I do not rcnienitier that the cure said anything to make the eleclor.i uniler.sland that they
oui'ht to vole for one candidate luoi-e than for the (jthoi'.
o
'i'he curi' (lid not say thai we ought not to listen to any one with regard to the election; lie
ilid not inonlicm anybody ; 1 do not remember, either, that he said "do not li.sten to the liigli priest
of the Dieharge.;" or that lie >piike of people without heart.
To my knowledge he did not say tliat those who should vote against the parish lio nhoul<l
consider as having no heart ; I am not aware th'.it the cure said that he hud made sacrifices to
ciiarge his opinion, and that the electors ought to do as much.
I have known I'itre (iilbcrt for about fifteen or twc^ y years; he boar.^ a generally bad
character.
.520 From the general bad character borne bj' Pilro Gilbert, 1 would not beliovi. liim under oath.
I know Scrapliin Ijujoie, of Malbaie, fanner, a witness heard in this ctu- a I'cars a bad
character with the public, and from the general reputation which ho bears I won! i . .jolieve Lira
under oatli.
Tc
my
id, before the sermon of the cure at 8t Urbain, 1 thought tiicre were fewer wiio
iViO
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woulil vot(! iDi- Mr. Tic'iiil)l;iy llian ilicro wcru , tliiil scrnujii ili.sini'lio 1 iiolliing ; and so it is with
llif .M-iinont* i)rc!U'ho(l liy tlio oiluT cuies of tlio coimty.
1 wont to I'liio Si, Paul iliiriii.;; tlio elcclioiis; tlioy toll tno lli:il tl>o so^mull.^ "f tho Ciiren hiul
not (■liani;iMl lln'iii ; it iii)|)c:iivil to iin' that tin- pailios were as warm at the l)o;j;iinuiij,'of tho election
a-i at the end, anil [ did not asceilain that the >ernionh of the euro .Siroih ehaii{j;eil the minds of any
eleclors.
(moss F.XAMINKl).
I eannot swear tliat tho euro did not Hpoak of liie -crviecs whicii he and the f,'ood inhubilanls
ha.l rendered, or nii^dit render; I only say thai I (ImioI reinonihur it ; f eannot say whether 1
should remeniher it, iiocossarily siipposint; that the euro should have said it ; ho may have said
inaiiy iliin,:,'s at that time Ih.il I cannot at this time reiuoinlier.
The opinion of the euro was Unown hel<)ie he hiul >].oken in ihejmlpil ; it was generally
liiiown in the jiarish that he was foi- Mr. Lanj;evin.
Ill short, 1 remendnT veiy lillle of the sernim in niieslio:!.
In .••peakin- of I'ilre (Jilhert, without naming him, the cure used ihe expression " escaped
540 from ]lri^o^,"
lie said thai, on that occaMon, ihev liked better to lollow " man like that, and tlint, under
other cireumstances, tliey had need of (heir cure.
The had char;icler horno hy (lilherl consists in that "there are some who say that ho has
made them j.ay twieeover when he was a shop.kee|ier'; thai he declared i.ankrii|itey,; thai he is not
considered honest;" his had reputation aNo ron>i>ls in havin.i,' sold liquor without a license, and
ihal he is on had terms with the cure; he has home this (diaraeler since he has heeii in the parish,
ihal is to say, since the mine was opened.
When 1 spoke a lillle while ago of the chariu'ler home hy .Seraphin Lajoie, I wished to spoilk
of the lepulation he hears at Malhaie, and with ns ; 1 come to .Malhaie a couple of times a year; I
-,-,, I cannot say h iw many jier^oiiH 1 see every tune 1 eoiiie lo .Malhaie,
1 cannot name any ]>crson w'naiever at Malhaie who ha.s spoken ill to me of .Seraphin Lajoie,
nor any i)lace where I have heard him badly spoken of; it is a general report.
(^iie-tion.— This i^'cneial report, be good enough to point oul to me a >ingle place where yoa
may ha\e heaid il ?
Answer.— I eannot specil'y uny place; everywhere one goes, it is a general report; I swear
I hat everywhere one goes at Malbaio, one hears ii, when L.ijoio is spoken oi'; 1 he ard that every
where I was in the liai)it ol goiifg,
(iue>-tion,— What are the places where you are acc.iitome I lo g i when you come to Malhaie .
Answer.— The place- where I go most Usually are at the Grand Lac, to the liouse of Hpiphano
.")(io Laforc!, and to liOui> .Mallais, ni the River Mailloux.
I <annot remember any others.
Mpijihano J/,it(Met lives at St. Agnes; Louis Maltuis is the only per.son to whoso house I can
roinember lo have gone at Malhaie, but I know that I have been ul.sowhere ; I have boon at the
house of Seraphin Lajoie hiinself, once, a long time ago.
I I
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SLMaiihin liajnii' ('Dmc:^ I" St. Urliain loss tliiiii four timos a yoar, on iin average.
'I'lio Imil cliai'aiti'r lionio liy iiiin totHinls in his chatii^'iiii; hor-ios, an>l lio is (■i)nsiiloroil as over
rc'iicliiiii; i)i"ii|)!e; tlioio uro sumo wlm liave i^iukI liorscs, and wlio ^a}- that lio takes thotn fniiu
thoin for iioliiiti:;.
Tlii.s (U'jio.^ilidii boliig road to the witness, ho porsi-stoth therein, doolarin^' that it oontains thu
570 truth, ami hath bifj;no(l.
A. DOliE.
Taken ami Kworn ^
Hotiire me, at Malliaio, in open Com I, this V
22ik1 Au^'nst, 187G. )
A. IS. RorniiEii, J. S. C.
Ciis. DuBeuoer, p. S. C, D. S.
ISSVLSr;:! SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874
Ehrflon (// (( Mcmhir of the Hume of Coiiimon.% for tin- KInionil Distrirt of Cluninmx, Malbaie,
the t-lml Aitijutit, ISTi).
Present— The Hon. A. B. Routiiieb, J. S. C
No. 14.
BRASSARD, et at., Petitioners.
Hon. H. L. L.A.NOEVIN, Defendant.
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
IMwartl Fortin, ai;cil thirty-six yoais, (armor, of the Psri.sh of St. Urbain, being duly sworn
n]ion I no Holy Evangelists, doposeih and raith : —
I know tlic parties in this cause; I am neither a relation, nor a conncetion, nor a servant, nor
a domestic of any of thorn; 1 have no interest in the result of this suit.
I was at the Churoli of St. Urbain on the Sunday which preceded the polling; the cure did
not H])eaU of his tervicos, nor of those of the good iidudiitants, with regard to the voting ; the eur6
did not say that to de.sorve his services, the electors ought to vole for such a candidate rather than
for the other; ho said notl'--g to make the electors understand that they ought to vote for the
dolendant; lie uid not sp^alc of being lieadstrong, and did not pronounce the word " lieadstrong"
5Hf) in speaking of one candidate or the other ; he did not pronounce the name of either candidate; ho
did not speak oi' people widiout lieail, in relation to those who shouid vole contrary lu the tiiajurity
of the parish, that is to say, in favor of Mr. Trcmblay.
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Tlic <iiit' 'liil tint Miy that the cltTgy wiTo united tngother, i\n<\ liml cli'son a cftinIidiUo, anil
horn; lioitil i)i>l >ny lliai IIiiih; lio iiiny, iicjliiiiis, liiivo MimKon iii' tlio
thill \vi' uiiylil to fi'li
(Icr'y, bill 1 nin tn.t iil.lo In ri'iKut ilie wmils tliiil lie e-aiil
I hwi"ii- iliii! ill lli!il -iTninn, liii' I'liie -iiiil iiniiiiiii; to inal<t> ilio cloiMni'^ l|Mller^laIul tliat tlioy
i|l!;lil to V'ltl- lor iIk' ill'l'isllilillil.
lie liilie'uloa i.i tain inoctinj- wliicli woic liulil at iIri Pichiirjc, an 1 wliii^li wi-io pro'itk-l over
l.le DOison; liomlvi-ol ns lo nii-'el a- lomuirly, ami to lisU-u jioHk-ly to tlioso wlio
liy an incaiianlo |)Oi(io:i
I'.'O Would coino to addio-iw uh.
I iiipU'r^too.l that thu iiM.' liad . i
t!ii.:-o :!ioc;iii„'s I" I aii^e, in tiiu |iari.-.ii, it i> no
I 111
(U.^Uini II
I lie ciii e.
r ilio iiilialiltaiit- to hold micIi nu'flinj^M, aiii llial ill tlio.-o inci'lin--. i)i'o|)io sp liio a^^iiinr-t
Mr. Oiit-inif (laiiliiior, Mi'iiiIjit lor tin; County of Chai-lovoix, only ^[lokc on
in iMililii' at St
L'riiain iliiiiii'' the ek'iMion ; I was nut at iho ho.iciliniiig of his ^•]n■^
I'll; when
ari'ivi
1.
he was
{iiviiiLC aci'o
lint III' his ])ailianie:iliii-y condiii-t, and al'lei-wards ho -ji ike ol' lIic eh.'ction.
lo s|iol<e o
, were liwt wni'liii
if the iriines to eonliile those who said in the parish tint lin was the cause that tlio
;: ; h.- did not say lliat he hud a coinjiuiiy to ^et the laines i,'oing, and
that.
iT if did not siii
•eeed. thai the (lovmimenl itself wan J,'oing to work theni ; ho did not K]ieak ol tlr
(iOII A
lehlil-lioii 1
if (til
elici-, nor o
r the cloij^'y, lit least 1 do not roiueniber that he did so.
In this siieeeii, he did not inako any pro niso to the eleetora to induce thoin to vote for the
el'endanl, and did not make it niider-t..od that the cleclioii of the defeMdant ini;^'it he fivorahlo to
the workinu; ol' the inine.s, tl
ilerests ot tin
-h or the electors.
Alter h.'iviii"- "iveii account of his parliamentary conduct, he spoke of the North Shor.
lailioad, not wi
1 1 rel'i
III llie cleclion of the doieiidaii
1, lull
tij toll us that ho had obtained an
-1"
clioii troin tlovo: nnunl luitee
whether this railroad coulJ pas.s throiij;h the Couuiy ofCliurlevoi.'j.
It,' aniicunccd lo us that he had ohtaincd imiiey fron
the (
tiivcrniiien
f r.'r the huildin;' of two
l.rid-
■es; he aiMo
I, " we will 11 )t concern oui-solve- wi
ill that now. li.it after the elecii m.
Tl
briih'CH have since hcen constructed ; these bridges are e.\]iensive ; they are upon tho
till) River du lionlVre, and the people obliged lo construct these bridges are generally [n
1)
iiriiiL
time, sevcr.il \ears, .since
he election, he only siiiikr of these bridges onee, UH I have jusl said, it was a long
I had a.-^ked aK-i.staiice for those bridges; they set greiil^ly
Ih
i.-e iiiteri
hv Ihriii ; 1 am <ertain that what the cure may have .said in the pulpit at St. Urbain, in no way
changed the minds of the electors of the parish.
f electors who were almost all adherents of Mr. TromWay,
At the Deri,
'i(tr if
there are a dozen o
1 1 I lie cure's se: inon produced no etl'ect on llieiu ; they bad decided before.
The pii
St. Urbain, in the way it voted
at the last election, was decided even before tho
defeudanl's arrival in the county; that is In say, it bad pronounced agains
vote on the amnestv.
t Mr. Tremlilav since hi:t
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A iictiiion, signed by llie whole iiarish, had been sent in, asking for a complete amnesty, and
•Mr, Treiublay having voted routriiry to this petition, tho pari.sh liad turned again.st hiin as I have
1 had occa.sion lo go sever:
times to Baie St. Paul during tho election.
If
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.S(imo fHiIiiical fiii.'ii(l-i((' Ml TiL-inliliiy loM uw Hiuic tlmi lli
iiulliiii;; Hi tlicin ; t ilM mil siuii' iliai llio >i'iii
I'li'ciiii-;* 111 Maio St. I'aul : puiliiv' wuii; chnNi'n lioni the lie;^iniiiii:^ of iln. i'|
1' sorni.irH (pf the rwio woril (oi
ntiB 1.1 111 I fiiiv liii'l priMliiccd Noiiii) oUVct on th.
'I'l
|i|li inli
10 M'liiioii.-,..! tlio iiiio^ dllln' County pr-KliUi'd no (11, ,•( upon lliu vijiu <il llMM'l.ntoi'^, in tlx
.1 S(. Urhi
I I.
>\v |)iiniiiii'{ii
l*IU'l
if-ni', (I willies.-) Iicanl In lli
(i.'IOiii'ioiiMl (it lii> liiiiic'.-.ly.
iii.so ; lio iiijiiVH u giioil ilmiaclor mi
1 kiKiw Pi I IV (I illicit, a witiicMs ju'iii! in IhiNcniiwi' . ho ln-aivaliail fli.iniitiT; fruin ilip clianuUi
.hicli In- lioar.s, I woiilii iml Ijuliovo him iiiuler tmlli.
I
iiiiiw >i'ra
|iliiii li
IJOU',
'(' .Malliaio, a witiir-<M licani in lln . caii>o ; Iik bfai> a liaJ tl
Wli
li llif [iiililic, tiiiil fidin IiIh i'< oral character I wmilil nm hclicvc him iiiulcr uaiii
i.iniotcr
The hri(!j,'c.-^, lit which 1 ha\ o k). ...cii, are usi i in ihu lii>l placi liy th© Imallly whcro tl
ic\
are built, and I'urther liy the whulo |puii.sli ; I'iire (iiliicit is inicre-itcl in icie nl' llio-:o hriili'os , it
wa.s the iiilialiilant« whi .siip|ilieil tlio m itcfiais, ami the nioncy given hy the (lovcrnmenl Oix hiin
ilied iliillais) wa^ not Niinicieiit ti> pay lin- tho lahiir.
crtoss-ixAMiNEn.
Cp) 1 hwcar thai .Mr (iaiithicr lii.l ii .' -ay ihat he liml li.'cn In tho A.' hbi.Mliopor (Jiiobec'.-i Tulii
hut I ciuiiint .swear thai he ilid nut say thai he had
lliat lie did iKit peal< ul the Clci^'y .
Mimiscigiii'Mi Ciwaulf ; I MWoar pomlively
1 was (ipp.i-cl to .Mr. Treiiihlay at ihe hist uleeti.in. and .sliou^r|y ojipusod to hiin; I
having- <llle^tillned Mr. Tieiiiliiay at a ineeliii:,' al Si. I'lbaili ; 1
tiial \\ (' illd not line liiin , I iiiav pc; liaii
remeintjei
reineinher well liaviii'' told him
lold mill .some iliiii''s ;i liiile liardi
r even than that.
On tho oociisiiiii in .|iiestiiin, I reinenil'L'r hai in!,' riiiplcd Mr. TreinMay while
iiij^ a doouinonl, and havirii; .said to him Dial I
lie wan roiKl
10 wa.s iiassjiig somotliiii;f over ; IVom whal I have
seen, I can swear that lie p.assed over siimelhiii;,' ; lliat i.s my convicl ion ; I
iniii .Mr. 'ri'cinhl
a\-, li\- Ins s;,|e an , il i
was at a couple of I'cet
CriO swear to-day I hat .Mi. Trcmblay pa^<^ell over somcihi
s from what I could thus -,■<• that I lake upon niynoif U
I should he rcad\- to -wcnr, no matter wliat.
on iiitormalion thus oblMiiicd
I swear th.il in iho iiuiden! iii question. [ neiiher apjiroved nor di.-a[iproved of Mr. Tarlo,
1 vear that the rune did not say that, on tho occa-ion in (|iicstioii. the people followed th
lliiih I'rie.st 1)1' the Dieluii<i< but, that in other circumstai
till
ices, they had need of the ussistanco of
To my mind, there were no means of undoistaiidin;.^ ::oni the i^erino;i, for whom the cur<5
desired that we should vote.
It \va.s piicrally known at the tin, : ;ii the cure wtw for the defendant, oven in savini; this, I
swear that ;us ii..|., >siiilo to my mind, to know from hi.s ,sermon for whom be desired that one
t;iiil should vote
he lot no bmly understand whom he was for.
Accoi-dinjf to -(-Itat he .-aid there, ii r-.ppearcd to be iiorfecily indifToront to iiim that, tlie eieclors
should \ oie for oiii candidate rather than for the other.
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I cHii I'l'mi'fiili'i' Wi'll lli;il Mr timilliior ili I nut n|i";i'.: at' ili.^ ('!i'ri»v' li my litiowln 1)^0.
I r.wi'iii lluil M , lliiiilliii'i' iliil ii'il nay lli.ii In- liii'l I'lM-oivfil Ik li'lti'i', In wliirli ii \va,« ■<;iii| thu'
(•iiiiiiiaiiv uami-i| 111 liiiy llw mim'^, or -.luiii'tliiii^; iir llial f"ii-n.
Till- liri'ltji.'-', liir wliirli Mr. (iailll)i('i' nai'l lii> liUil 'illiih- : -in hilli lie I ilullai-H, ui-» imt iipn i
(i.«\fi!iiiH'fii liii'l-., Ihov Ui o ill II 1 1)1 1 (Mil ■i!-sii»ti ill (ill) '■
'.I III
IWisJi nf Si. IJrltiii
'riii> pari olllin |iari-li vviih hcIiIi'iI (I'lcirc my rt'i'iillci uun.
( )iil\- I III' (Miii'i'-<«i"ii, wlici-i' llii' !• Ill i l;;i>r, u' I', ua- Ikiiiii,| Im inaiiiiaia iIhmii,
,|-i) il ijif I'liio li:i'l iii'i'ii l.ir M,. 'I'li'iiililav, it wuiil I lia\i' ma Ic a iival ilitU'tcni'o in llii> paiifli,
jiiiaii'i' wii ii'-pi'ct till' aii\i<'i' uf our line ; llic iii'ijdi'ily 'Aiiiijil in lliai ra--<> Imvo Ihtii iUv Mi
'rifiiililay.
I lammi hwcu'' llml no chanu't' was inaiU' al Haio St. I'aiil, rrmu Hie lii'^itmiii'i; until tin' ond m
the rlfclidii ; what I liavi- ■> liii jii-.l iiinv mi lliis ^ulijicl. ]- tViuii vviiiil Was liilil iiu' liy a pat'lihun ut
.Mr. T
ri'liiliiav' iiaiiu'i
1 lli'iiri ( Jiiar.i, -iMi III' ( i.(";'i)iii
'I'hf lia.l rliarucli'r lnnin.' Iiy iiillnnl f'in-i>ts uf lits liaviiiL^ hail (|iiair(M.» wiih a i;ri'al many
iicrs'iiis, a
III nvi'ii with llii piic-il ; 111! ha-i sp'ikcn ill ut' his jiric^t ; in- has l.ilil nio, ciir-iiiL,'. lli.il
wciiiM rallicr tulluw the mlvico ut' his ilui; ihaii the lulvico iil' llin priest.
Ill ilic M'liiriii u|' which 1 .spula' a whilu a^■u ilic I'lirc. in spi'ukiiii^ nl' him, without, huwover,
fiSO iianiiii;4 him, -.aiil thai he w.i-uiic •■ M-apol t'l uin pri-, ui;" an i:^nuraiit pi'iv^mi, who lu'itlior knew lio.v
lo fi'iil nor wiiu-; li.' imIIcI him ihr lli,:;h I'rii'sl of liio 7>i'
,'i'iiyc.
Sorapliiii Lajoio jiassL's liir a ilish iiir^l poi'soii, h-raaso ho li:n llio naino of traliiiij horsos, in
"vliirli III- ilu'als pi-npli' ; I.c will s.ty, lor o:;uinp!«, truu a.^ tlio -iin >liiin-.<, my lioi>o i.-- only ol' siU'K
an an'o, whc;i ho Uii..,. ■• tho coiitraiy.
lunicrally ho pa^.-r- lor a m;iii who r jurats pcoplr in I'.xcliaiii^inn horses, ho has clioali'il mo my sell
.Mr. I^'alii (1 ..III .M ■ fiaioh.M' havo hithsomo inloro-t in tho miiiot; .Mr. i'al'ai'il lioii:;hl Ihn
inis oi' p.r>oiis lo wiioia t!io I' imp my of tho mi no., owos nviiii'
L'y ; !io Ijo^'an \>y \
lavi.iic iio.ii
hair Iho nomiiial valiio; ihoii ho oanio lo |pay only ilio lliinl oC it ; ho tlris boii;^lit sovoral C'Laiins
I swoar iIkii at iho lim,' of tho ok'i'lioii of .Mr. (I.i 'lliior la>l siin r, Iho |irio-.t ol Si. Urhain
li'JO was (ilivinly till noil aL;;aiiist .Mr. Tioinblay , liil I do not kiiowwlioih \Ir. (laiiihiir wa.s ; 1 Ihiiik
tliat the ouro \va-.
(^iK'siioii. — On tho urea-ion tioforo moiiiionoJ, ili<l not tho cure in >ti' sUiiico siiy tlii- : "You
'■ (Hii^lit not t ) voto aoijirli.ig lo your oaprico or your projiilicos, hut, ooin-oiontiously, lor tho candi
"diilo thai you coiifiidor iho most worthy; but on tins point yua niw not aMo to form u sure, con-
" Hcioiitiiuis conolu-'on Cor yoiisolvos ; you 0111,'ht lo i^of _voui>elvos oaliL^htonod by tlio?.e who an.i
" more ill a pi).-.ilion to do so ?"
.Viiswor — Tho ouro .-.-lid llio lir-.l jiarl ol tho words indioatoil, until and iiioliidiiiL,' iho words
and I do not ronionibor llml bo pronoiinood iho soi ond pail of tho ^e^tollco.
tho nio^t wurlli
.\i tho loipiost ul' .Mr. Falard, I f-iirnoil a doolanition lo oonlradiot anothor docluralion yi\on by
7l)0l'itro (iilliorl and Xavior (iirard.
1^110, tion. — IJid you sign a aoicinii dooliiralion coutaining tho luilowing paragraph ; " Wc posi-
2:!
" lively ilony eiuli of tliu nine parii^^raplis in doUiil of tlio siiiil allilavil, Na. 8, (tho Joclaralion ol
■'IMtre (iilboil aadXuvitM- (Jirard) uh well a.i tlui said uHuluvit in ilH ciiliroly ; '• Wo aliinn thai
" iicillier III tlio duto, tlio sixtoontli of January, nor at any other date during lliis election contest,
have wo ever lieard the sermon conlaino<l in this atlMavil prcuehod in the Church of St. Urbain by
tho llev. Mcssiru {''alai-d.
()lije(le<l to by the detendant, a.s in the evidence of Adam Simard.
Objection set aside.
The defendant takos excciition to this judjjmcnt.
-10 Answer.— In llie declaration which I signed, all which the affidavit of Pitro (Jilbert contained
was not denied; there wore some words which were tlio same as those in the sermon.
(iuostion.— Did you, or did you not, sign a declaration containing the said paragraph.
Answer. — Yes.
(^)iio>tion.~Tho declaration of I'ilre Cilbert (KxhibitC. of tho petitioners at the onquete) being
read to the witness, he w.is asK-ed how ho reconciled the denial made by him at the rciiuest of Mr.
Fnfard, in the second jiaragraph of the said declaration, witii tho testimony wiiich he ha.i given
to-day.
Answer. — The witness replies as follows: Wlicn I made denial, at the request oi Mr, Fafard, it
was becaus,' tliwo were some words there which were rot tho same.
"-'• ic 1 h:i(l unilerstood, as now, that the declaration denied without any exception all that Pitro
Ijilberl had said, I should not have signed.
.Since 1 have been at .Mur'aie 1 iiave lodged with the dolendaiit ; nobody since the election hue
ever spoken to me of what forms tho subject of my ovidenco,
IIK E.V.V.Ml.NKI).
The honsc where I live al .Malbaic is a boarding-liuusc.
When the cnrc road llie allilavil of Pitro <lillicrt, I nndorstood that it contained some things
that ibr cure had said, but many things Ihal he had not said ; and when I signed tho declaration, 1
ijidy wi.-hed to deny that winch was not in accordance with the t^crmon
'fhi- dcpo-ilion licing read over to the witness, he iicrsisteth therein, declaring that it contaiiu'
7;!(t the truth, and halh siu'i.ed.
KlJUUAi;!) KOUTIN.
Taken jnid sworn ')
Ih'Ioi'c inc. at M^l'^i.', in open ('i)uri, this V
•J'Jnd ol Angiisl. ISTIi. )
A. B. RoUTHIEU, J. S. C.
Cn.\.s. 1)i:Behoer,P.S.C., D.3
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,.r...MKM- ... (...ehor, ( SUPERIOR CO U RT.
DOMINION CONTROVKRTHI) ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
h:iect>o,i '4 ./ M.Mib,r or thr lini.<'' of romm.ns, for Ih- FJMoral Ihstrict of OharUvoix, Maiha.
Ih,' lirniii/lir.-it iliii/ Of Ani/iist, [>^ii,.
I'rosent— Tho lion. A. B. RouTiUER, J. S C.
So. 14.
O BRASSAIil), «-<.«/., PelitioiHTs,
r.s,
Hon. U. L Lanokvin, Defendant
E)/IDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
ThoiiKiH Foriiii, a;;o.l li>i'iy-uii,'lit y.Mis, farmor, ot tlie i.ui-i..h of St. LTrl.;iiii. Ii-itig .ialy sworti
upon tho Holy HvangelistM, ilo[»o.solli ami saith : —
1 kiiou' the pai-i:,M iu iliis (Minr; 1 am iiuiilnsr a rolation, nor a connexion, nor u s^rvint, nor a
.l,)m.i.slii' of any oi' ilu-ui ; I hav.s no ii.UM'.v-.t in tho nMult of ".lis .suit.
1 am secrotary ofili • -I U; I \va^ pre-.enl at ilio ( •|niirl. of St. [h-hiiu on tlio San.lay ^v\wh
))roi'<!(it!:l tho |>olliiiL;.
In hi-^ sri-mon, I in- iin-.Mii,l not spL'ak of l,is sorvii'iM, nor of iho soi .i.'cs of tho f,n,o,l inhabitant,-
wilh i-i-anl to the vol,, whi^-h tlu'V o'l-ii' I" i.'ive. an.l 1 .li.l nol n.i leiMtan.l thai tho -'ure sai.l thar
hv voti'n.rin u.'oi-tain wav tho uioc'or.-. mi-hKleservc Ihoso.MTvi.'cw ; 1 .lo not rornomhor that ho «ii.l
Tt.lli.at such una .sn.-h u ono •■v^\a not to !.j li.stono,! to, am)i.- oihoi-.n tho " hi !,'h priest " f.l tho
DMumi,'; in.spoakin-ofn,,.hi^'hp^o^*t, hcsaMihai Ihero wa. a certain inliv. In il who might
ho calloil tho higli priori, who hoia mootings at tho /JdWur^/c, that lie di.l not like that, an 1 .
„n,lorstooj thai ho wanto.l t.. ridicule those moolings, that ho did not like that hoeau..o thit raigh'.
civalo .listurhanoo; I Ikivo hoard loll 'hat tho priost.s woro hadly sp.kon of at U.«so assoml.lies; I
do not roinomhor that tho euro spoko of people wiihout heart with regard to ihoir voio, and if ho
hiul so spoken 1 think I .sliould have remembered it.
lie .lid not speak of maknga.saeritice in talking of his change of political opinion, nor in
talki.i- of the change of other opinions of the electors, nor ol the vote which they ought to give,
in this sermon the cnr.^ .lid not say that the clergy ha.1 mot t.,gother, that they had chosen a
750 canULIate, and that \vy ought t.) follow them ; ho di.l not speak ofthe clergy.
I did not uudersland that the cure said thai Iheie was one .andidate who was hea<istrong, an.l
that he only represented his .iwn idea«.
I did not un.lerstan.l fr.nn the sermon of the .■nr.i that he n.a.ic it understo.Kl that he wished u«
,.,v..to...r. mo .•and,.latom...re than f.,rthc other, lmtlunderslo..d that ho saui "vote tor whom
.u
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y„u will" 1 km-,v Ihi' .nire.- ..|.i^ii'>i. I.cl.)i-.' Huil ^L•l•lnon , l.oiuiv i'.kii >^i'
>^iM'm'i I 1 ili'l ii'il know jvi-
■4
|;,.,;,.e ll>i> ..•ra..!, Ihwv .vciv iil-ul thuT-,,,ia)te.'. o( 1 he parish who wcto lor Mr, l,;n,-..xu..
«,„l li,in::. ..•l.inii.rl the ^M^l.• .fUs' iIr. M.rin.H,, ih my opiinoi, , 1 aiu almo-,1 poMlive lh:.l th-
>.„,.■ --.•,■,,1. Ml .i;i noi .■;,.,M^.> .-uiy voU'sai S^ ViUiuu
Th. ..jMU. ,rihr pari.:, w:>~ ,,n.,.ou!i.'o.l M-.in.t Mr •rr.iuhh.y .iiR- il.o la.iMOs. of liui
Mii.l I.o]iinc.
I I,,,,., i,„o-.v:, IMi-o 'iill>..i-, siaro hr hn. 'ktu ih l!u- i.:iP-h, M„.v ahoiil l-.u- yours; hU gorioral
.■h:ii"i( l.'i' i- liH'l. aaa tVoiii Ihut .■'aanu-lrr I Woujii hoi hfliovo him un.h-r oath.
Onr-ini.' iJanthli-r >p .k.^, a< w^-H ••« I .•;„, , ...nnnlM.r. lh:vo tiin.^ in Uu' pul.lif phirc ill Si
rili.iiii ihirinL;' (lir (.■In-liiai.
I wa. i.roscut wh.M h. s.,o:<.. th. .lay wh-. Ih. ,l..|;.„ 1 n,: :-;. ,!co inm-oll at Si. Hrhain, ..
..V,. on ^•c^v Y.-ni'V Dav; li,> In-an l.y fe'ivin.' a.<..Mnt ol' his ,,:irliamoi.tary .oa.!,..'! aa.l w.il,
,,.. „ioa to thai h. >,,oko"orii.o North Shi.e liailn.a.l, ai.-l oftho uioiu-y he ha,l ohtaiae.l to iis.isl
,„ ,ho .■oa.ua.e.iou ol t.vo bridf^es ; ho a.l lo.l .hat h. ha.l ohtai.cl Iho .noney lor the i,n,l;;es ; thai
■TOho woi.M not >i.ea!cal,o,.. ih-m al -hal f.n.e, a,.! Tual he woaM .peak al.oal iIumu a,,er ti.e ek-clMa. ,
he spolce ahout the nuao. to c-oufaie thovc who had a.vuse.l hi,„ of he,,.- ihe eaa.o that they we,,-
not woi'kiiii,', an 1 -^.ve some c.xphiaaUoiis on l',,is snlijcci,
lle.liinol >peak of the A,'ehl,i:.hop o," Qaehe.' , 1 havenokaowlecl-eorihis.
,,,n..,ion— I'lea e - :\ w-ei hi'i' M ,•. ( iaul hie,', in this spe.'eh, o,' in his olhe,- speoehos, spoko ol
,hemine:,ofihoNor,..; ;;.:,,,. .i. •, ,1 o- , he a -i ,um.-e .hat ho has obtaiac 1 l.'om the (love.-a
,„,„. I-,, ,..y, i.-M-,. ., ...aae/iln, ..v.ih the elee'ion .! I he .lefenlant, o,- of Mr T.'emhlay ^
t^lii'ftioii o|.|etieii 10 a,> li:iilii,j;.
Ohjecliii,! -I'l aiiie
\n--wei-. -No.
|7Sil ^iae.;,oa. — Please sav wiielh ■,• i„ spoakiii- ofthe niinos, M,-. liauthivr spoke ol a eompany. ■•.
..fa ..;Vaal iVoai the I/,eal (;ove,',in,"nl ; if il is yes. relate what h- sai.l on the snhjeel ?
A,is\vei'. — 1 lio iio: '■eiaenihei' thai.
(iiiest;...,. -Piea^e sav whether m his spee.h o„ New Year's Day, or in hi> olher puhli ■ .-pcedie.-
Mr. (hull!.;./ -ai I -.oa,etl,"ia:,' to niake the eleeioi's ,111 ierstan.l that it was m .;o to their alvaitugo !■:
vote f .r >l,o aelen.laal. ihaa fe- M,-. r.'oalhlay , ii'yes. ,vl,ile what he s.iiil oa this sahjoel '!
( )hi. ele! Id as l< .adiiiu
Ohjeetioa set asiile.
The poMlioi,eiV'- tiike exeeptioa lo Ikis i!cl;,f|i,eiil .
.\nsw(fr. — No.
The .sei-mons of the other eiu'Cs of tho eoualy <li>l not pi'oduce any otfect on the votes of I'.e
|7!)!>
•toi's ol St. Ih'liain.
fA«
n
n
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CUdSS-KXAMlNEl).
I <|.i iMit rctnciMlicr lli;it llii'CUiv ^pl.ko of ) lie services tlial he mitl llio p»(«l inlmhiliintu hail
roiiilcrod, "V iiulcIiI ivii.I.t, to iho ]k-i>[>U' «\' llio IK't'liHri;.', lull I i-arinol iiiak.? oalli llial lio ili.l not
spciiU (iC lln'iii.
'I'lii' ciiiv iiiav liavo ^|luli•.•ll (if llif i'lcr;:y in 'liiH mormon, liiit I ■!() not know il, ami I I'Uiiu
u'ivi.' I lie iiarlii-iilai-s ulwlial lie may liavi,- ;.aiil.
(^liiolioli, — IMoase roiMUl llic mtiiiou ot llir (Uiri''.'
Aiiswor. — I aiii iiol able.
8()il (^>iio>li'>M. — .\r<' you al>lr to icporl anylliitii: ol'llii.s hciirioii ?
Aii'Wor. — Xo.
Tlif fact is llial 1 can only reiiuMiiliei' u lew words of tliat sermon.
(Question. — Please leiiorl lliose lew words V
Answer.— They are ihc wonU. llie lil-li |.iie~t, lliat is ahoiil all I eaii romemlier.
(^„„.sii,,ti._ll.,tt-di.l you rememl.er jtisl now that llie euro diil not say eerlairi lliiuirs wliieli liav^j
hi-i'n menl loiied t ■ ou 'f
Answer.— 'I'iiat i> hecaus,- they were asked me, and that they were sii^'nested to me; without
that I should not have reiiienih<'i-d liy mysell.
1 ilid not midei-iaiid, l>y his sermon, that il would j,'ive more )iloasiiit! to the euro to see us vot.
Hliii'.ir .Ml-. Lan,!j;eviii than Cor Mr. Tremhlay.
I am not ahle to say whether li'om the serni<in there wore any means of knowini^ wiiieh
' an.lidate llii- eniv i\as for.
It wasiiiideralood hv all those who were present in iheelnireli that it was ot I'itio ( lilhert 'lun
ihe eine was ,--|ieai.iii',' when lu' spoke of the iiiuli priest ol the IJerkiinje.
lie said that no was escaped from prison, hut not freshly; ho sai<I he was a man who could
neither read nor write; I cannot lell if he said that he was an ii^'iioranl person ; 1 understood what
he said about liina was to turn him into contempt ; 1 did ii it hear him tell us not to allc^nd
<iilhert's meelinir'-. but I understood that ho did nil like us to i^o to them.
II was known all over the parish that I'ilie (lilbert's meeliiiirs were to work in favor of .Mr.
.Si'OTreinbiay.
1 would not helieve I'llre tlilherl under oath, lieeaiiso I have lu'ard say that he was a (|uaiTelsomt)
pei>on. a man who was in ti'oiilile with his cure, and who spoke ill of the ]iriests.
Question. — Please repor't the speech made by Mr. (iautliier at the nieiHiiit,' held on New Year>
Day.
Answer. — 1 am not able to report a single word of his political speech ; 1 do not rememb.'.
what i s.aid Just now ; I cannot remember bis spooeli at all , be may, indeed, have said a niullitudr
of thingH thlit I cannot romomber at all.
I
WliMl I -liiU'l jil-l iiiiu. Wii> |iec:iil«f il \vti-* stlj;;ii'>lfil lo nic
• ^notion.— Dili Mill, !it till' roi|it(-l i<\' Mi-. I'lUiinl, i-Iltii a >ulomii (loclara'inii in wlileli tlio
"^■'i'l Cillowiiiir KL'tileiKM' incurs ; — • Wo jio^ilivcly deny eucli niii' ol' llic iiiiu' p:iraL;ra]i!is, in ili'tail (if tlio
sail! alUilavit N'h. S (the iloclai'iUinn nf I'ili'o tiilbi'i't and Xavior (iifanh, as well as the said ullidavil
in its ontircly, wi- MlHrin that ncitlicr at \\n- dale dl' thosixtot-nth ol' .lanuary, nm- at any nlhur dat.i
during; the (di'itoral ('(intost. iiavc wo cvit hoard tin? soi-inon niiiiainod in liiis atUdavil |iic;udiod in
the oliiinh al Si. I'lliaiii, I'y llio l!ov. Mossiro Fal'ard '.' "
.\ii>\Mi-. N'o-; I >ii,'iicd N'liiioliiin.u' iioaily lil<o th;;l ; i caniiMl say il' was al)'.iiliitoi\ iho sanio.
(^»iic-iiiiii. — i'id yoii ,-ii;ii a doiiaraliiiii aiisoiiitoly and imviiivcly donyiii,:; all tho oontonts ol' Iho
diilaiaiioii 111' I'ilro (iilboii and .Niivior tiiiard '.'
.\i,.,\vi.i\— No ; 1 signed a doclaratiiin saying Ihal llu- doulaialinn ol I'iliu (Jilbort was not in
ovorv i'os]iort in aocordanoo with tho euro's sermon, Imt 1 never signed a dochiration entirely denying
•^10 what I'itre Hilljert had as^crlod. lor thon^ wore in his iletdaration things whieli luighl lie Iruo; i
did not lielievo that I signed a dcelai'ation of the natiiio of that which was read to mo just now, and
if'T had heen told that tho declaralioii niaile nio ileny all Ihal I'itre (iilhcrt declared, I would not
have signe.l il .
Since I'liilay evoiiiiig I ha\ c slejil and hoardo I in ihe same lHiarding-lioii>e as the dofondant.
I!K l:.\ AMl.NKli.
'I'lio defendant has not >:iiil one word to me in relation lo my ovidonee.
We understood that the euro meant to spcaU of Tilro flilhoit, as 1 slated in erosn-cxaniination,
hecauso it is Iio who is in tlie habit of getting up meetings at iUo Berhanje ; when I said that I
had understood from tho cures .sermon that ho had turned I'itro (lilbert into contempt, I nioant to
S,")0.say that I had understond that ho wisho.l to ridicule him booauso ho liolil meetings, and that he
wished to put an end to disnrder.
When 1 signed the doclaralion in i|iiostioii, it was after tho e.vplanations given by 5Ir. <-'ur,".
I'afard ; he then explainod to ii> iho declaration which we wore about to sign, and why that
decdaralion was niinie.
I do not believe I'itro l.ilbort under oalli. in addition to the rea.sons given in my cross-exami-
nation, because he in said to have made a I'rvlulent bankruptcy, and liocauso lu' jiasses in tho parish
for a liar.
l!K i.'UOiJS-K.WMI.SKK.
1 under-lood that tho cure wi-lied to convoy a bad opinion ol' I'ilro • lilbert. and lowered him in
i^llOtho opinion of the iieo]ilo.
I do not l.now tliatil was a fraudulent bankruptcy, bul 1 know that it is net hono>t. and that bo
is a man who seems to make people lose mono.\ .
2rt
I lonnot name »ny poritoii who lold mo tlinl I'itif (lilbci i ImJ luulo aiicli a Imiikrupt'V.
This dopOHiti-m licin« ron<l to the witnoH^, lio poi-MstcUi llioi-cin, «li'r1iii-in, il il (.iniiaiiv il
triilh, anil 'mtli Nis^m-il.
TlluMAS FOJITIN.
... anil hworn |
licCurt' nip, in pen t'ourt, ut Mulbnic this
■ -1 AiifHi. ]H'i;. 3
A. H. JlouTiiiKR, .'. S. r.
!KZ."^«K;:i SUPERIOR COURT.
DUiMINION CONTllUVERTKI) ELECTIONS ACT, 1874
Fl ■''''■It ' ' .Wmhrr '<;' tlir Ifome <,f Common.t, for tin: Klertoral DiKtnrt «f C/mrliroIx, Malbaif.
thf -I'.inl Awjunt, ISTd.
]5]{ASSAIID, ef al., Tetitionors.
lloii. IL L. Laxoevin, Defemliint,
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DE FEN DAN I.
t.'lciiphii^ 'riiiliaiili,nj,'od I'tirty-llin'c \oar.s, ol'llio jjarisliolSt. I'l-hain, i'arni r, hi'inu' duly -n-ori
upon tlio lliily llvanijelists doposolh aiul snilh
I
])avtit'
thiHC'iUiso ; lam lu'illicr a roladoii, nor a fonncilion, nm-
vani, nor
adouu'Mlii' oran\ of tlicm; 1 have no ii\loi'i."<l whatos
the result ol'tlii.s suit.
.'^Td
I am f,oiT. lary-lrea.siii'or ol'tho mi
nii'ii)alilv; I was at the Clmrc-h oiSl. rrliain,onlli Sunday
heforo the p<iHinir; the euro spolco about the eloelion lor u pretty consiiU-rablo time; in his sermon
the curil dill not sjieak «t ids serviec-i, nor ()!' those ot the good inliahitanls, with rej^ard to the vote
ih i\v
oiN ouf^iit to j;ive ; the cure did not say that to soi.'ur
e Ids soi-vieos and Iho.so I'Ctho
i;oi)d inhabilani-^ for
the future, liny oui,dit to vote like them ; it may Inav happened th t the euro
did pronounee the words, ])ooplo wii limit heail. Imi 1 do not believe
pr
the vote wli
ilK'.t it Uiis in connexion with
ich thev ought to i,nve.
lie did not say that there were i)eople incapable ol formini^'Mii opinion '.■! '
hemselve-; that people
went to .'-ee
k him when they were siek, and that in the tini
f the elections, they would no longer
listen to him: lie di
^SOnor of the sacrilice-
l not speak > i the sat ri
tha
t the eliHtoix
tieeswhi'd) ho had made inehisrging his political opinion
I make, whether by change of opinion or by voting
I do not remember that the cure spoke then of the clergy, nor that the clergy had mot; that they
lad ( hosen
mdidalc and that we ought to Idllow them.
The eurd said nothing to induce the eloetors to vole for one candidate rather than tin- the other ;
1 think that the cure spoke of a headstrong man.
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I !un certain llial llio ciiri''.-. sennoti diil not iu'diIiiit iinv cliaijijf in tho pollinL; at Si. Urbi
uii
the |ian>li was as iiiiicl
dofiiluil
st Mi-. Ti'oail.ilav bi'loro that:
.('I'inoii a> a
i'u-v; it had hoori thus
llOCI'll'll SI
nee the votiis of .M f. Tfcnilihiy mi llu' allair nl' Iticj i;ii(l Lojiiiic.
1 (jo 111)1 tiiiiik, and I am nut aware, that the sennun> thai the eiires ul'ihe eounly may have
preaehed have iidliieiieec
cl an\- eieetois at St. L'ibair
8!ll)
1 Was iji-eseiil wlien Mr. ( )ue.-iine ( iautl
iiei' spoke in pulilu- a
t .St. Url
Jam, It was o
n New Year «
I lay. and lie did nol >jieak ol the Arehhisiioi>; ho spoke ol' tiie mines heeanse iieo[ilo saiil llial it wa^i
his fault it tiiey were not workin;;;; he made some e.\|ihinations on tiiis sulijeel ; I am sure tiial he
(lid not tlieti sjieak- oCa company aii't ol the ( Jovertinienl, in reijard to these mines.
lie also told us lliat he iiad ohiained som(> money .'rom the (ioviTumiMit to assist in the eon
strnetion of two lirid^e>, th:il he onl\- spo!;e of it to let Us know the thintc now, seeing it wa.s in llie
time of the eh'elion, hut that lie would s])eak ahout it after the elect ion.
lie in no way made it underst i thai hy voting' tiir the delend-int, tho electors would have
more honelil, that it would Ik' favonihle to the working; of the mines.
1 have known I'itre (Jdln'rt since he has rcsideil in the parish; lui hears a had (diaracter ainl
<)()() Ij'oUi this mineral ch:iracler 1 would not hclieve him iiii ler oath.
C'ltOSS-KXAMlNKI).
1 did not I'cinariv in ri'l.ation to what the cure used llie e.\|)i'e-sion, people witiiout heart.
(Question. — He ^'ood enough to report ihe ciiiv's .■-ermon on that occasion.
.\nswcr. — I did not remark' it much; he wanted to i idicule ceitain meetiiij,rs which had heen
held in the jiarish, or to reprove certain disorders; ho said that these nieotin,n'.s were liold hy a
{•ertain ii^norant individual, who neither knew how to read nor wi'ite ; the cure may not piudiaps
iiiive spid<en lil;e that, hut 1 luidei-slood iiim thus.
He said thai this man was a ]»'i'son escaped out of ;irison, hut he did not say " freshly escaped
out of pri.~on ; the man of whom he s|ioke w as I'il i ' ilhert, and the i;eneral lepoi-t in the parish
MIO was that (iilliert held these mcelinjrs tor .Mr. Tri'i;
1 swear that the cure (lid imt say that the peo|ihMif the Dedi'irje were not in ajiosition to foriii
an o|>inion l>y thenis(dvos; 1 know that he spoke of the harvest; he said ihiil thoy had had a small
harvest, and that aflerwanU they wanted to meddle to yo into polities.
I think that he said that without him and ihe txnoil iidiahilants they woidd not have heen able
to sow thcii' lands.
When the cure spolce of a heiidstroii!.,' man lie allowed il to he nt\derstood that it was Mr.
Trondilay.
1 swear that on the occasion of which 1 have spok(>n above, .Mr. (lauthier did not spoak in any
mannei' whatsoever neither of a visit which he had male to the .Vrchhishop's Palace, ncn- ()f ;»
nieeliiiii' wdii(di he may have h.'nl with .^!onselgneul■ ('a>ault.
I sweai' that he did not pronounce the word .Monsoiixneiir, nor ihe Grand Vicar Pasault.
!t2i)
1 did m)t hear Mi-, (iaiithier say that he had had a letter mentioning a company who wore goinj^
to buy tho uiinet*.
r
man
r.iiWiWimifc'" "•**-' ■-^■"' -•
■■'^W!r^,):?*T"."''.^
In; exiilaimli.iii which Mr. (iiiuthior .t;uvi' wiili iv-uni to llic-o inineH.
I am iiol iililo In roi)<i;< th>; ex]
1( \va^ M. . (ianthioi- \vh'> umih.'sviI nic in cdinc h to a- u wilnc-s in
niu very liulo ulwiia. hfluul :<ii'l, >n- ralhcr iiolhinii; lio sai.la li'W w..p'
hu liail Miaiio diiriii,.,' Ihi- ciertinii.
tliis I'aiiso ; he rocallod to
Is to us orihospuocli whi h
lie
(lid not siicalv to us of Ihu euro- .-oiinon ; whon \w ihu;. ^;lokl• to iiif ol' his sjk
Iho wiliiosso.s woro witli inc;
ceil, some of
Edward Furtin, Tiiomiis Foriin, Fi^ancois Xavier (lirard, and AdaiA
DlidSiniard were tlicro.
\Vc were at Mi', (iaiith
hier's own liousr, wlierc wr ha I asseml)led to^^Mher.
Tlie iiara-'raplis one and two o!' the nllidavi' (iictiiio'ier- l',;:i|
I-ihil ('.) heiii;; read to the witness,
lie deehu'es that the -icater jiart ol il is incoi'rect.
1 ilo not remcmher wlielher, in the deelai'atiom whieh 1 -
h I 'cave to Mr. Falard, 1 entirely dt
these two iiara^'raphs.
1 did not uiide)'sland that that dechiration
that 1
^l^•nell etiliriMv' <le
lenied the detdaralion of
I'itre (i
Ihert, hut thai it oidyd.'ui.d thai I'itre (iilherl had lepu'lrd the -ense.
dd not have sii^'nedadeelai'ation to the e
fleet tliat all tluit Pitre Cilhert ha 1 said was false,
1 only wished to deny the inaeeuracy of the whole
for Ihero were some
true thin/i'.s in what ho had
940 ■
1 was a ]
)arti/.au o
f the deteiidam at the last eleetion, the wanie as t
he othei' wilnes.sOS of St.
Urhaiu heard 1'or (he defendant.
We have lodi;\l ar,d lioardeil in llie same hoardin,
r-house as the defendant sinee Friday nii,'!!!.
We have falkeJ ann.n-- oai'selve- (the witnesses) o
talked of it together lo i .'fresh our fiemories; one won
m another.
1 spoke a little ahoilt il wuh the witnesses who
it others .-■ ' i nothint; ahoilt it.
f the evidence whieh we wore to yive ; we
Id remeinlier in one manner, and the other
lavc
been heard; some before goiug spoke of
IIKKX.VMINKI).
9511
The defoiulaid, did not tell me a woi
d (.'f mv evidence, an(
1 neither did 1 speak to him of it
This de]iosition heini; read
truth, and hath sin'ued.
to ihe witness, he persi
ueth therein, deelarin^- that it contains the
CLEOPIIAS TlllBAULT.
Taken and swoimi
before me, at Malbaie, in o|ien Court, this
'23rd AuKUwl, 1^7*).
A. B. RouTUtER, J. S. C.
'"""Ta^wfj 'mfwv''
31
rroviiicc of <Jiic)»co,
District of Stiffueim}.
SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
Flrrfion of a Mmhcr of tU Home of Commons, for the Electoral Dlstrirt of CharkvoU; Malbair,
•SArdAuyust, 18(0.
Tresent— The Hon. A. B. Routiiieii, .T. S. C.
No. 14.
BRASSARD, el at., retitioncrs.
Hon. H. L. LaNOEVIX, Deiendaiit.
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
Sorain.in Villonouve, aged lif(y-..no vcars, funnor, ..f the parish nf Mulb.iio, Lei...; duly sworn
ii])(.n tlie Koly i'Aaiigelists, dcposeth iind saiti. :—
I i<,K.w tl.o i.artios in tins .•••uisc ; 1 am noiti.or a iviativo, nor u connectio.., nor a servant, nor
a d<..neslic o( any ..Iti.e... ; 1 have ..o intcM'Cst whatever in the result of this .suit.
1 iuon- Se.'ai.hi.. l.ajoio. of .Malbaic, la.i..er ; ahout Ih.'ec or loni weci« bclbre Ihc election in
ouostion 1 mysolf b.'ought the .aid Seraphi.. .Lai..ie to the otliec of Wv. J. S. Pcn-anlt. at Mall.a.e,
to sig.. a .•oriuisitio.,, praying of M.'. Iva..e, nota.y, of Mali>aic, to co.no forward as a ea.Kl.datc in
OGO opposition to Mr. P. .\. Trenilihiy.
^\\. found <Hn'sclv..s i.i Ihc a..!e.roon. of M.'. .1. S. I'cria.iifs otiieo ; wc we..t in lhei-e,Scraphin
I,ajoica..d l,a..d 1 then sai.l to >!.•. I'ciM'ault, •' I briiig yon a ,na.,," .naking alhision to Sc.^aph.n
La'joie, '■ to sign the .(•(inisition to Mr Nota.y Kane."
The.-e..pon, Se...,.!,!,. Lnjoic said. -1 a... eo.nc U> sign the said .■equisilion ;" npon this Mr.
l'erra,Tll said to hi..,, '-we will, at .n.y rate, tahe your signat,.,v, if it wo.>l<s good; .1 .t docs
not work it will iio just as usii:d.
■rherenuo.., M.'. I'er.'ault began to talk to a.u.ther man who was in his odlee with us; Mr.
l'er..n.lt di 'l not sav a.,oihor thing; this an.,oyed me. because it was I who had brought Scraph.n
Laioictohis pla..e;'l am vcrv positive in saying that Mr. PcTault did not say anyth.ng else to
OTOthc said Scraphin Lajoie, that thee lu.d not Ihe.c and then bee., any question of a suit, l.cfo.'o
me, at least; upon tl.'is Mr. rer.'ault invitc<l .ne to come into his olhce ; I went .n then, whilst
Scaphin T.ajoie we.it out of the oHiee.
I know Malvi.ia Dio.i.ic, wife of the said S.n-apbi,. j,:,joie, well; on ihc occasion which I
have ..,o..tio..ed above, Se.'aphin l.ajoie signed the .•eauisilin,. by p.itting his hand npon the _pe.i;
it was M.' re.Tault who si-ned his name, at the .•equcst of Scaphin Lajo.e ; 1 swear positively
that the said Malvina Dionno was not in the ofliee of Mr. Pcrrault, and was not present whcn_
the s.iid Scraphin i.ajoic sig.ied the lequisition to M.-. Jvane, nor at any time wh.le we were at Mr
i>erraulfs place, 1 did not see .ho s:.id Malvina Dionno, and ,f«!.e h.id been tho.-e I must have
seen her.
Its
080 A. ... a. . an. on.,., Scaphin M^ie ..over .M n.e a.^ l.nn : I ^-;!;^^;;;-;
fVicn-l. with l.im; ho has never dune mo any ''M^ > -^^ J^ '; ^/^ ,,^; ,,1,,J ,,,^^^^^^^ i„ ,U
.cncral character -.1 Soniphin l.ajoio i. -a-l; I would "^ 1 o "^ >
r.rivate liio he does Ihin,^. (hat a eredil.le n.an under o.Ul. do., not
, , , , ,. .,, M,ll,.ne whenMr. l/u.-eviMn.iid..aMK'ee!. ;itNva<'l"'''"S
I was present at tl:e .■Imreli door. Mt M.iUmk .
tlie election.
cr.oss KXA.MIM-.I'-
U.a ,.av either .he dav or U,eweei<. ..:> hoar, when 1 wen, -„ Mr. .VrraultV.
„ ... i,. .„e ..renoon : it was three or tour weeUs '.o<o.-Ue H'^^^j: ^tll'l^^e^lli S"!
.a the store or Henry Si.nard ; vo wen. out to^tho. and a . " '- '"l^^- ^^^^^., ,, ^,,,„,
(tOOaskod him u nic and si-n Ihe rwiuisition to Mi. Kaiu.
nigncd.
. advised severa. to si.n the re,uisitiun. hat L^oie -'-'-;;;^X.^;1L;:;|;;;: " '''''
hocuuso [ thon.^^h, that l,e would not ,,.. there alono, bc^aus.. ho ..s not to Vk, dcpcn p
„.i ,.„ von s'lv that Scraphin l.aioic is not to bo
Qucslion.-What do you mean lo express when v ou s.n 1
depended upon ?
Answer.-l nu.n. that he nu.sl he followed to nud<e bin. d , what one .ants.
,i„ostion._NVill vou swear that you yourself always do what you have promised V
Answer.-! do it W.en 1 ean do it. there are times when one pron.ises things, and when one ,s
put out of eountcnanee (chrfsatje) one eannot do them.
1000 iiy the term, put out of .-ountenanee ././..K), . mean hein, deceived hy persons wl,o havo
prondsed me money.
• i,.,t u to sav not to satisfy
It ha.s happened to me t,. put uy en.ditors out of eountenan.e, .hat .^ to saN .
tlicm. bccau.so I was put out of countenance myself.
tiuestion.-no goo,! enough ,o ..ite son.e o. the ea-es in .-h:eh Seraphin Lajoie shewed that he
was not a reliable person '!
.Vnswer.-I told ,oua while a,o that he bad not done n,e any barn., n.yself; b.U 1 have heard
it said. Iiy a ,i;i'eat many people, that be was not i-eliahle.
(,)uestion.-Namesoine of those wh.m. you hav.^ heard say this?
.\nswe>'.-l have heanl it said hy lifiy or sixty; I cannot name ,he,u all.
imO t^Mlcstion. — Name some of them.
Answer.~d did not even ivmark their '.e^ : there were too many ,.f then,.
(.ueslion.^llnw<|n you explain that you a.'.nol name any of these ].e.-sons '.'
Answer.-.-ll i- lieeausc there weiv loo many ; I said s.-just now.
Verv otWn 1 have hee,. witness of .uarrels which he in.s 1..1 at tl. .hx. ^ tbe^l-l, with
p...sons ;ho said that be had cheated them in the c.vcl.an,,.n, ^' X;J^X>Z\ UM them
;,;„, ,„,, ,,„,,,„ .,,,0 wanted to give him hl-.w. w,lh b.-oom-ban lies, because he
lO'.'l
-^^x^
,. tl,o oxchung.. of l.or.o.; uU the ,o..on. wl... l.uvo (..Id .no U.ut l.o wa. not Mm.. uM U .o mo
,;;.cm;.o tM LoHoa .iml he had .hun taken then, in on tradin, ol ho.o.
The tin.o that a won.an wan.ea to heat hhn with a hroon.Hti.U. f wan ^n.^ -Uh i-un , y
Ul-0 nn.ol. a irso! I had bn.u«ht hin^ with n.o ..cansc he nn.lc.to.. hov.CH botte. than ..
■ „,;,.. .,.0 ole-ion . was oHen with hin>, .. a.v ... -" ;;;^';;';;X'?h:;.:^ " Z::::^
.,„.e.. le.s of.on.i.u.e tho election, ho c«rn. '-."7";^J>^ J^- W L >h«.-p, to ,«y
knowing in ti,i. imW : he is eonsidcMV.I ve.'V sha.p ,n h,.r.e .lealm, ,
ininil.
Tiwee or lonr iht.ous have lol,l .ne that Se.-ai.hi.i Lajnio i^ a thiet'
I do .lot I'eiM.'inher I lio names of any of the>o i.u.-sons.
, „ .„ ...- .-.nvu. i.i, l.»ri.. . -vi.» : .»„4 IM «« "' '
M. „„ ,„.;.,.,. „„, „i,.-. «^>Hi. " ' >•'■" ".' ' "■"■■ '""' "■■
i.in's wo.-th tViiin anylio'ly.
1 1 „ •( ,ii;w lirl it il'»'s nol suit oltcn.
10:!(. I take li.innr >n,ne.inu.s, an.l i uel .In.nk when ,1 s.n.s ,
l,„okaulasslo.,lay,anaitaUen,u,everya:.y. ^ ^^ ^
, ,..,.,, a. .his ,no..nin., ana . ^•''•-''7'';^;';;'^;- ;::;;;S ;".,i;;.t:,i::v S-';:;^ thi
.,la,s« which I took hehno .•o.nin;,' in he.v. 1 -onk a. M.. i oaul.
momini,^ at Ml'. ISar.heienu l!onel,a,-a X.
.,.,:,..,.-„.. — '■^-' ■•■ " ■' -^^ '"• "
Ikcuimliloi-: 1 .ill, .aiTV mnd. iivre.
,.„-rr,;,::rr"iMs:Ji:;;;:;;t-^^ ^ .
«-, ' ' >"■■ ■'■■ '">■• ' »™' ' • """"■ '"■"' "' ""■ "■' , ,
,,„.„, ,, --.''■■■> ..-:-".. i...i-i.i. " ■ ""■"
'" "s,„„ .,-. ...-- . »™ f »■' » rr;::r-;nS;"i,; <;s:!"«* srr :"»-::
„,„ ,„„„„^ ll.-»l."«'l'«"!'"-''»l'>'''';.;.\r ,,: 1, Mr.l,.,..ovi,, «:.s ur,.-.,«l,y to «.
M,-. TromlJay- !."">« '" ro.o.vo ».,.,« ,..om, i. '"I ' f,,,,,, i,,,,, „■ Mv, J...,5«v,n
Uir,.i „..,. .„v...ll.v. I ..-..^ nMy 1.. «.s.., .....1 1 >l .1 ».-"• '" '
.„,. -„,l,»;M.-.I.....S.-i..»"..l'"»''."'"--'""""-''""*- , „
"""■';;:l ,.,.,.y * „.,:... ,„e ,..,.. . 1 ,. .u u » ...... a « "»
^^:
:t4
I II I. Ill lii'i'll 'lllll' Hlllt'O
ilio morning.
„■ , W •.. ).. "■" 1 ■-!'■ ' '' ' """°'"" - ■■ , . , „„ „,„.
.uu.,. , „., : .7-7;;"' :';';rru;7,S';:".rr:::;rJ;:: V
,«::.;^ ::: s ^:j'::^::;;' i'-- ;'r- '^"" " - *"^ * " '
I was a llluo tl,.-,i, anM 1 liav- always I.e., llmi.
HKi-K..\.\Ml>K.I'.
Son.,.lunl,aio.eNMn..-m.r,wli..all.nasM.Ua,,MnaU.
, „.e »„.l I ... to lu>, ami ^v: en 1 M>y Umt 1 an, a Inond nl
Senn,l,in Laj.-u., 1 n,oan to nay thai vn Umi 1 n,iO( h.m,
, . . ., ,.,itn,showin.^n.cuUcnliunHwl.cnl«olohiHhou.e,an.lwl,...n,l.uiU
Mr. I'oranlt m ,n ll.o l.ul,.l -I ;>'"^^'"" ' ,,^,„ ,„. ,„mes to my l.o,w.
1,0 gives mo a glans ,.f liquor, an 1 oHer somo to l.,m
o,not,.avin..Uen.in..,..on.n. ,,„^,, .,,.,., .a. it .n.ai o
107t This dqiosilion hoing roa.l l- ,Ik> NN>tm.s, jai
mill,, andthut lio cannot sign.
Taken and sworn )
licloro n,o. by eonsont, ut Mallmic tliw ,•
2Uh August, lS"(i. J
('HAS. DuUKnoKa. 1'. S, C. I'.S. ^^^^^^^ ^^^ (.vn^-ni.
Jl. CY1UA.S I'ELI.ETIEU,
Attorney I'or Dcfenduni,
I'. Lanoelieu,
Atlor.icv lor Petitioners,
I H
CD
•:;"Trs*^ t?T^*^w'^"W"'^ ■
3&
...ovin... 0. n...-'| SUPERIOR COURT.
l>i>tiiri I'l Sir^iifi.ii;.. )
DOMINION CONTROVKUTKl) KhEOTlONS ACT, IST4.
No. H.
Prosent-Uon. A. U. Routiukr, J. S. (\
lUUSSATlD, e^ nl., rctitiouors.
1 .■ .
IIoii. II. L. LANdEViN, Dolendant.
•••
EmENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENOm.
I'iol'IH'
Tit ml I
"iti y*
Holy 1'
.ViUliiCl
lisl.s doiiosoUi !ini
,1 :ii;i',
I suilli:-
I'aniior.df tin
I'iiiish ol'Sl. Jlihirioii, beiiiy iluly ^\v()^l on the
1 know
the lefties ill llii> t'iuisi'
1 am m'illioi' a r<
lativc, noi' a coiuioctioii, nor
ilouiostic oi' any o
iftl.om; 1 l.avo no intorusi in
the result of this suit; 1 wiis present i
St. lliliirion on
tell tlio oloetoi-s
headed [lersoiis;
mandate ; In-'
the ll'th Januar
• hist ■ the euic explained the iiishop's mam
how
they
he also spi
ou.n-ht to vote;
ko ot them on
;)!i the pre(
ling Sunday, the em
a servant, nor a
n the Churcdi of
late ; the cure did no''
re had spoken of wrong-
the llitli; li^) si)okc uf them in relation
to tiie Hishop'rt
It il
lere w
ere in the pan
^h so
ine wroii
ig-licaded per
<ons w
iio thoui'ht that the
I118O man
,Ua,whieh 11. read did not come iro
,m the Bishop:
, that it wa;
the mandate of tlic Bishojis w
Inch
he read an
I thai it was nol ho who reforms
,1 that; 1 hoard that tliere w
ere in the pai'isli some who
sail
the p
il that the mai
kite which the euro
c read did not come I'roni the liisliop
that it was a
letter thai
ll■ie.■~l^
had made uji amon.sj; them.
On ihe'.Uh he read a p
;ii-t ol'lhe mandate, an
il the remainder on
the Kith
The cure did not say
that the electors o
m-lit to vole
for tlie t'onsorvali
.0 Tarty or lor the
,il)ei'a
I'arlv,
.lion
In his explana
tempt of the Church
sthe cure sau
that to siipjiort that party w
1 that it was not right to siippo
Id be a grave .sin
Catholic Liberalism by con.
ou
1 sweai
that the cure did no
it sav lb
at to vote h.r the Liberal Parly was to lie against the cur^,
1090 n;
•ainst the Bishops, and against the l"ope.
At tl
le eiu
I of his sermon the cure spoko o
,f two banners, liy eomp
larison ; it was in relation to
holic Liberalism; he
Cat
eule religion;
with a l)anner, aiK
liesaiil look at tJaribaldi, Victor
i'jumanuel, these are
CatiiolicH who porse-
he .-aid, if y'")U were at the poi
it of deal
h and Victor Kmmanuel and (iarihaldi came
:1 the Pope came also witli a bannei
which
banner would you like to i'ollow.
1 \inderst(K
follow it rather than to
banner or bUio baf.ner ;
ixl that the banner of the Pope w
i-as the more respec
follow th;it of Victor
Kmmanuel ai»l ^"=""'
table and that 1 would prefer to
baldi : the cure did not say red
ho did not spc
ali of color, ho only said banner.
lU
36
'I'ho Cllll' (
ili,l noi ilniw any coiniKir'oon
liotwofii tlii'<c liimnci's:ui(l |
1 iji.lilioiil piirtios; lie (li<l n<
siiy t
llOOconii'i
liut tlio liliit' liaiiiici-i
'enro-ioi
itoil tho Coiisorvativi'
>ii ol'llio iwi
Ijaiincr.- 1 uirifiT^lnu.
Part V and tl'i^ ml llio UherA Party; l.y tho
1 lu ae«ii,'milc good aiul ba<l I'atli
lial till.' cui'f wishiM
uUl:^
11(
,li,l ,„,, ,-;,v that wcoii-ht l,.|i.ll(,wouro(
siastii'at Mi]i
i>riiirs, evoii m
Ihe elections ,exci
,,.t
i known thai
;i liU'i-ali^in a.iiii
iiisl tin', maii'la
10 i> in iiiiesllon,
lieiilu A^sl■lin, a w
KO
1 know lie
All that the lint! ina)
far as 1 could see the y
itno.-> hoai'il in llii- caii-o.
,• have Mii.l in the iiulpit diirin
^ the eleetio
n ilid not eli
•dW'M a SI
tiirle volu
lile hail iternlei
1 belbro Ihe sermon
lieforo the arriva
,1 ol the defendant the [lenple |
e iironoiineei
I themselves a,i,';iin
>t Mr. Tieinhlay
for the pai
■ty
,f Mr. (lauthier; il was s
,aidllial M.-. Trenihk.y li:ld,-
iven M)nii'
voles.
1 know
JillesTieni
MavorSl. Hilarion, fanner, a witi.e..-
oxanuneu
in tills eaiisu.
1110
At the he.uinninj.
it the election I know thai
Ji
Treinhlav wa-
Ihr the party ol
Mr
(luiilhier.
'PI
le t'Ui-e (
lid n"t say
Ihat llie hi<hoi>.-' inandaie coik
-ithor the Conserva
live or t
he Liberals; 1 wa^ t
lemnedono of the two politieal parties,
nice, and 1 ceased li> bo soon
■hni'eh-wardcn in o
the Isl January
lu-i ; I ^enl in my ac
counts (111 the
1st J
muarv, ami
il was
then that the euro
aoliveivd the bo.iks of the I'abri.iue t.
liieule .\s>eliii, Ihe new ehuich-warden m o
iHiee.
,.,,,,,,. |,.„| .^|,,.ady been ,lilUcu!lie< belween
the cure and Asseliii ; the cure
then delivered
to him the books of the Fahnine
,\>^erni llieii asked lilin wliv
the cure auswi'le
d,
told
von ve
^terdav eveniii.^', yoii are
idwa\s ai;ain.-t me m a
II (diiireh mailers ; iii a
11 mailers yi
speak ill of me ; tins we
Ld; a^-aiii you eaiivassi
,sed to ideet as i
diiireh-wiirden a yoiint: man
1 1 .;o !'f
t(
jainsl a man
sav airains
if ■)! year-
,t that x-oim;
1,1 that beeau-e that yoan.n' man wa
M' voiir parly; 1 have nolh
of 25 years
insj;
null!, but you
have infiingel the .•ustoin of cle,
'tlllL
the oUlest in thi
>h ; it is an
in-ull to that man ; you ne
,x'r do othei-wi>c; you are
!i lilack:;-uard
know til
at .\ss
loke ill o
f the euro
there was no ipies
ition a
t llio time of a p
[irlia^
men
tarv eleclion, and the euro t
'I'lie euro ma le
rv little of P
lo a diiVerem
li,l nol allude to it.
Iictweeii Catholic l.iberaiism
1,1 P.ilitical
ililieal Liberalism; he eonslanlly reluriu
,1 t,i Catholic
Liberalism,
Liberalism ; ho paid
^■hieh he com
iiaro'
l.i tl
rpeiit in terrc
-trial 11
:i,lise; the dilVerence
which 1 uiidei
aood him to ni
ake
he I wee
n Catholic
Liberalism ai
i'olitical Liberalism i-. that he sj
loibade volin;
• hir a Cat
1,„H,. Libc-al; he did n >t forbid votini
ike of Callio
f,ir a Poliliea'
lie Liberalism, and
Liberal; the man-
ii:io
,l;ite did not speak of it
At the time ol
pastoral vi-it with h
Ihe delivery of Ihe books tl
le cure saii
im, for the re;
in which he li
,1 lo Asseliii ihat he would not m;:
the preceding eveniiii.
ad given him on
that
he was ahvay:
a"'ain>t
l,-,,„, ihal he spoke against him. t
hat he was
blackguard.
In ex]
.laiiiin^ the mandate the eun
joke o
fdis.n-aeefiil persons;
by «0'
saviui; il wu.-i
I duty to vote; thai per
vere some jiersoiis who
should not se
11 themse
Ives ; that he kiie
w- in )ireecaing
dinir elections lliero
had;oid theniseives ti>^'M.-p'^ ^'-•'''' -''".t:::::::
to their consciences
that those w
ho should sell themselvcf
were disgrace
iful Jioi
there was no qiie
-lion ol the
Liberals being disirraeeful jierso
were wrong-hoadwl.
lis ; the eu
ro did not say
tlial; nor did he say thai the
Lib.
Vm
:i7
lUO Tl,c .onnons o,' .ho otlun- .ure. o, .1,. ...mnly .u.so.l n„ d,u...o at S,. lliliuron in .l,c vo.o of
llic clot'tor^".
(■IU>-iS-KXAMINKl>.
A,,he,.eauc.tof Mr. Lan.l.ls, -.uo of o.u- ,,un.,,, I si,n.a a -IcelanUion .. n,nt,-a,li.t other
.Icdaratinns put forth by Itioulc Asnolin, Joseph l>.<.udrca., an.l so.no olhors.
'I'ho t(.llo\viii:,'(lochiratioii is fea.i to tiie witness
St. llii.AUioN. A|a-ii, l^^^ii.
lUlO
To Moih<''iir r thr Arrhb'uh'j]' "/ (quelle,- :
Wo, '.h. ,.„.le..iKnc.. pan.hio,u..-s or S,. Ilih.non. ..lonu.ly .lo.la.v ,hat o„v .u,^ .lid not say,
on the U'ltii ol' .lannarv hist,
our pai-i.sh.
2mh Mo did not speak of the Conservative party, hul .ha, w. uld no, In e-nscienee vote for .
fiiberal eandiihite when he is known to he sudi.
:,.,. n. ,ia not say in a general nuu.ner .ha. those .ho si.ould ;>^;;J;^^^f;:';i^;:;^
would sin nu.-taliy, but that to vote for a Liberal eandida.e through oontrmpt lo,
of the church (•on>titu.ed a 1,'rave fault.
4.h. U is absohuely .U.se that he said that there were in .he l-;^^.j;;;l%^;;i;:;;;t;S;
,;a.ho.ies, and who are(;arihaMians. a.. -"-^:;;7:;; ;;„:;,„. ^.^Lk t::.elect u
as can be remembered, is wha. lie said to u> . ^ on wii uecai.L , vour eon-
„... to represent your interests in Parlianient . shaU td you ;;:j;;^:;;'^,^ZZ.
science, enlightened by your >ui,eriors ; do not lo,-ct that the Bishop, o ,^«
vou that Libm-ar.m is like the serpent that crawled into terrest.a ''-•=';'-.:",,""„„
-..ace, and .iiake it ,all ; aceordin^^ to your Bi'*!'"?^ t'''^ 1;'^'''^^ "'■.^' '*'■' "^ ,l^;j''J. .^^^^^^
„.us; not follow ,heni i,' you desire no. to i,o deceived ; Liberalism '-•-f ^^^^^ „^\ ' !;
l-ather Ihel'ope-. .he church condemns only .he evil ; "-• I'''^-''^'" V, "^^^^^^^
tore. Liberalism is had, theretWre. you ou^ht no. .o ,ive your vote to a J'' -•' ;^ ^^J^^^^.
declare it openly; further, your chief pastors tell you that the P'^^ J' , ;, ^ j ^ . "^,
in all jus.icc. and siiouM. in all ..onsciencc. elevate their voices, poin. out .lu a.in„. k
declare with au.hori.y. tha, to vote in such a manner is a sm.
Now. if .here i> soniciiues a .in in v„ii,„ i„ one way ^^^^^^ ^^^'X^'^^il^^^t
must not be when vou vote in .•iceordamv w„l, ,he wise coiiiseU o, all 1
Province, and if i, is no; in thai way. i, eerlainly mus, he ui ,hc olher.
l„,us, however, .ell vou, ha, il you vo,e ,or a Liberal ea,ulida;e. ,,V k//.r.,;/^u.^.^|
.,. JrJ your eonseiem. tells you Ihat ,liat n will -77;;-- j;:;-;'; 1 ^
temporal i.Uero.s in .he House, in that ca.e you do not mi, : but ,. / "^ ^" '" "^; ^ '^,„.
Lib ,..1 voueannot in coi.eience ^ive him your vote : you sin in '-;';"'7 ""^ ;^ ' ^ ^ ^ou
,ive vour suppor. to a man who maintains principles ...uidemned by he ; ; ^'^ >^^
IISO a^sunie the rcip.msibili.y ,br ,lie -vil which tha, eandida.e may d„ ui ,h,. applua.ion
dan;:e:ouN jirlnciiiles which be ii/oresse-.
nto
i i I
lliiO
1:200
,,■,;. not c.iou"l. that a ean.rKluio slu.uld doservL- your vole:*
()l,scrvo .ny brcil.o.n thai .t . no . _^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^,^^;j^.,.^ ,^„,
„,^, l,eisaCatholU.,fo.-lookyou ^'^ ^^^ .^^^j" ^j.^ (Jovernmcnl which he supports • lo.-
,,« poHtual principle, us -' ^ ^^ ^ ^ A Catholic, yet that .loos not prevent thorn Imn.
Victor Hmanuel is uCathol.e " > ^^^ '.^"; ,„, ^oly father the l>opo, and kccpmg h.m
..obcUing a,ainst the church ^^^^^^ wL upon the cl^urch, ii.r, «aith Jesus (;i>r..t " ho
prisoner in his castle. >o the I"'^,f •''.:;;;";;°^ j;,,,e..|asare a,,ainst the church, for «he condemns
who i»-not with mo is "-"^'"^ '"'.,. .,,,,,. ,.,c,so to sul.mil to her teachin,^.
,... ., ,„,. .aUo war upon . . ^^ ^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^ ^ ^^^
I>emen,bcr n,y clear ch, dren ha ^ 1" . ^^^,^^^, „„ ,.,,,, ,,,c you will pro.or to bo
j.ouwill..ivcthisweeU: tcUmoatth .l)o ^^^^^^ ^^^. ^.^^^^^^^. ,., ,, ,,,„ de o
;,„ tho .ido 01 the church, and tbe S-.c.^n 1 o ^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^ ,
Vi.aor H'n'^"-l»"'V''' r\st' n■l^m1r.H•t:-^ than you can imagine. What ,s
vou arc about to do >s 1- -'1- ;, ,' \1„ .,ence to be onli.,^htened by those whom you
-''""'^""'''■'' ,,,i:i,. , no did uol explain it to u.
declaration wa> red lo ^^^^^^ ^^^. ^^^^
1 did no, IcMaud that , bo .u. by ;;- ,---: J^ 1 il-Xnt .^i Mr. Tromblay ;
..audidates »"— -'>-.^'"""^^:^; :;,; ^ U , Unow what Mr. Tron.l. lay'* politics
M,.. T.an,evin was tbc «^.nscrvame ;^^^^n a^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^ ^.^^,^^^, „, ^^,,^^, ,.,,„oi „f pohtu.
-;j.::;;;T;;r\;:ni.;t-:r;;::c;:;aiaatco..,he party Which is.^
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elon"ca ; i mi<m> •■ - ,
our.sruard a.ijainsl Ml. licniM.u .
snokc for this election. ,
,,,„„, -,«,o -"- "". > -'
two candidates in the tield .'
:;::r::. ---^ »-- "^■'"'^■^-"■-^
a- tor Mr. Langevin .''
^,.„,._Y>, : i ..« I.»l '- "- '■■ •■■ ""■ '■■"■ "■' '■""'■ . ,,,,.
„„.,.„.-.,> ..-..^ - ,.,.,«,...,..».■ -"- -»
without sinning .'
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I
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31t
Aii-wor. -N(i.
I tliliiU iliiil I knew durin;: iIh'i
Iccliiiii tli:it till- euro wasu^'uin
si Mr. TiTiiililas , 1 iliM in'i
iiii.kT.-iiUi.l 1.3- my l;i)o\vli"l-e lliat li'-m wl'!"- ">« t'"
I ^WL'iir lliut iii'i'oi'ili
iirto thai hcriiinii 1 iinih.'i-sliiiiil lliiil wo mi;,'
' f-uiil lliuro wci-o Libunils in tlif c(niiitr
lit vote i'ar Mr Tromhla.v
1 ('alliiilii'> a- in viili?ij,'
Rlill 1)0111^; as giMi!
IVtc III Vole I'lir whom wc wmil
IJ II the Liboral (•.■iiKrulatc.
I iimlor.-'lnol that wf ini^^h
for Ml'. r.aii;j,i'viii
I -aiil that lll■(■au^o ihii fuio It'll ue
I; hu k'll IIS treo to voto luc the t'on.-urvalivo caiididulo or (01
t voto lor ik I<iln'ral a'^ well a^- lor a
Consorvativi;, jir
oviilocl he
was not aifa:
ll^l Iho fhiirch.
Ilo (li<i n
to lis of tiiUl .
il ti'll Us wiii'llu-r ihi
Lihc;als wero ai,'ainst liio I'h
iirc'h or IK t ; lie ilid n(jt Hpuak
'riicro wore >onie wl
i>Tit out orihc '.■hiirch ihsiiii,^' that scrniijii ; the c
lire saiil thai ii''
was ^om
Wt'Ill oil
If,' to conlinui- the oxplanalions o
if Iho inamlalc, and it was lluireupon that thoy
t ; a lar;;ii nuinlK'rof ]ii'rsons thus wi'iii out
ol stale ihcniunher exaotls'.
1 do not think thallhe elliv sai
d that to voto lor a iiihoral woukl he u isin ; ho ollori sjio
ke
orCalholir liihoralisin
ho was always upon it.
It inav
he ihal ho said Ihal the Lihorals iiors<TU
ted Ihe ihureh and Iho Pope; hut I
raiinot roniemlioi
as ra
her it ; I I
under
stood that the ma
nncr in whicdi wo shoaiil voto would not ranjjji'
ihor wiih (iarihal Ii ihaii wilh the I'ope
What Asselin .said iii,'aiiisl the
eiue was thai it wa?
parish, that ho wn
(h) liol U
s a (ool, thai ho iimlerslood iiolhiiii
now what ihe word
apostate moan
his fault, if thini,'s went ill in the
wroni;-hoailetl follow, an apost.Uo ; I
lull i know Ihal it i.s not a deeerit word; 1 swear,
•■uid 1 oan swoar'XIO lim
,'.-, that the euro's sermons did not prevent
a siti-'lc eleetor from voting
lor Mr. 'rremhla\-, atidilid not ehanf;-e a
sini'le one ol them either.
nit
12i;ii
I
[t> all the electors,
■aid Ihom spoken In as to their opinions.
1 hwoar ihat Jules Tromhl-ay had pri
1 think, hut I am not sure of tho lhiii„',
need forlhedetendanl belbro ihe euro's sermoiiK.
that tl
le oure
did not read tho Pjishop's mandaii
until tlio month of January; lie had roac
The wilnesscs from St. ililarion, who we
.1 none of it hel'ore.
re to he heard in this eausc for tho defendant, met
i l;ist week, last .Saturdav ; the euro was not there; it was
at the euro'
of the doioiulani, who sent for mo.
Mr. Pellilior road us the ovideiioo heard in thi3 cause
cure's sermon ; we saii
.Mr. Pellilior, tho advoeiUe
he asked us whether that was tho
1 no. There were, at that meeting, Antoine
tioiudiard, Mduuard Bo
cliaif
tiaulhier
The
1, Joan-Paiitisto Pilole, Toiissain
t Horn-eron, Elienno Do.sgajj.ner, (ircgoire Ticmhluy, Moron
.Vnloinodautliier, Prancjois Tromhiay and Octavo Bouchard.
endaiit
was tiroson
t at that met
itiim ; ho .said nolhiii«' ; it was Mr. Pcllotier, wh
put questions
111 the defendant road us tlicovi
leiico ; since my arrival hero ou Sunday last
1 tiavo eoiKs
taiitlv liidired and hoarded at the defendant's board ing-houho.
H.E-EX.\M1.NEI).
The defeiuhint never spoke to mo o
fmy evidence; among Ihe persons who went out of the
mr
:^^
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. ,,.,,,,. .„ s,, Hilario.. ; U,o,. w... olo^.o. non-Cocto. an,. >-...n, ..c.-lo : it wa. at tho ...i.
.,,i..U,p,.M.io.. l,..in, read .. .l>o wU,... ho ,c.UtH th.rcin, .Iclann. tl.u. U ...Uuin. H.
iriuh an<l lli.it li" i-animt Hit,'n.
'raUcii mill Hworn )
hotbro.mMiM'l>^'>''''""l.''t^'."""''^"""' (
2ilili Aiiu'iiitl. 1*'«*J '
A. H. Ilm'TiiiKii, J. S. ('.
rrovin... of <|n..iM..s| SUPERIOR COURT.
IIMriil »f Sn«iit'"a.v. ) "^ ^
DOMINION (;ONTI!OVH1!TKI) I'.I.I'.CTIONS AW', 1871.
..,.. r. .V .■■■-^-w. ■ -J-/:,;- ^*-"' *"'-' "'■ '■'■■'"■"■'■ ■"
Present— IIoii. A. 15. RoUTiiiKn, J. S. C
No. 14.
r.liASSxillD, el (It., Petitioners.
\'S.
Hon. H. L. Lanuevin, Delendant.
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
A.i.oino Houdianl, -. I yoa,. „r a.c, .lu-.nei-. of t.ie ,ansl. ..f Mila.ion, l.cin. duly .won, on
the llolv Kvanf,'oli8ts, (loi»)>olh and i-ailh :—
,,,, , ,:,... mo ,,a...i. in this .11.0 ; . an. n.itliei- a -chitivo .>.; a n.n.u.tion, no. a somuit, no,
.,lnnu.s.k.oran'vorthc.ni; 1 havo no iii.oiosi in th. rosult ot Has smt.
1 :un scHTclarv-tioaM.ivror tho .niiuiciiialit y of Si. lliU.non.
, was at the .•hiu.ch or St. llilanon on th. KUli -lanuary hist , I did no, hear the .u.o sa;- tluU
ho was .roin^' to oxi.iain to tho iicoidc how to vote.
T J ..,„.o .lid .ha, .iu.iv w.iv sonu. wion^dioadod ,,oo,.lo, and I undorstood by that i.o,..>n.
who would not submit tiicn.Mdvcs to tho doci.sions of tho tdiuirh.
„ ..as in oonuortion will, tho maad.to wiiioh ho had road on tho p,;ocodin^ Sunday r-.p||^
„i , , 1,0 oure hml addod sonu'tliin^' to tho mandalo ; I say this as l,av.n_^^ hoard t sa. 1 , ho d,d
;;;;;\;!; nlat ,1 ";d:;;l. shouUl vote i^rtho Conso,.vu.ive pa,.ty <.. to. tho Liberal ,aity ; ho d.d no.
l:iSOuse tho^o woi'ds.
, . . ., , 1 , li-i Tin' "!">'ik of ilin Consdi-vativo party.
In his soimuu lie aui to. .-j.. .h^ .i — i
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lU, ,li4holHiK.»l<or mortal sin, at U ,tH i
, .,» t,. v..li« r.>r Mr. 'i'icii>l.la\ , or UKainnl any -.no ol
, ,,i,i ,,,i ,lcrHtan,l tVn.n t hut hc.„,ou U ytj .^^^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^^ . ^^.^ ^^^^. ^^^ ^^^^^ j,^^. ^,^^ , .,,^,,„,
'^ ,. ,„ ,,i,,, Vm ...r I >unuol aiul (lariUilcU; ho mu.1, aUo,
l,'0(i Tl.o .„>, .poke or hu.u,..- in ••''""^"•';' / ' ,^ „,„, eomtmriNon to raako .« undorHtand thai
wo ought not to vote for anyon- who luM "-
n ,. ,..,! , /■-,!(,;, . llo did not reprt'^fi, t .o two polltlfUl
,„„.,-,*;,- z;t::rL:'i':,..l'::": ■;:;.-- - " -» -- - - "■
„,, .,i,l „„, ,,,,roscnt the twopohtMid imrtios, IK. . .jiHcsati
hniuuTs. • • lis
, ,,.,„„„„..• ti,.t tho euro M.i.1 tha, one ought to 7';''- '''^ ''i;;'!;;;:: ':' "'I;;;,; ':' 'mo^^Li
., u, uvoh ; that when the hishops and tl>o pr ost. had -'1 anyth.^ 1 • O ^^^^ , ^ ^,^._
1:^00 that tho ehureh nu.t npoak out . 1 did not nnd.Ts.and l,v that, thn,
TroinbhiN .
,,„,.„..e ,na.U.adi.tinetion between .■alhoPe Mberali>n. and I-oliti-:.. l.l^ond,
1 .,o not romombor that tl>o euro naid that .ho euro,, the bishop., tho IN^po v
, ,,;.,;1'; ;:;.\;i:, ..ot Bpoak of that ; ho omy .poU. of ,hcn. a. I have stated ubovo.
Hodid no. say that there were .laribaldians i,. the parish ; he did not spcuU .„ tl.
wiek sehools.
1 11 II. . or
A lU-unn-
thceur4«, tho euro did not n.ention the nan,e ol M 1 icmlilav . an 1 1
!-• dvO of liis principles. liat wo
t"t ™£:r";rL;; ';:;;;i:";;;r;i:::'::,H;i.uf : . .... .»■ ^'-
11,. «,,.,.;« ..fC... man....... ... .. i"""-" ■«'"""■ ' ''""., ;,,':,■ „,. T,c,„b..iv l.oll .o«»
„,„ic„,J.i M... T,.,„.,.«v ..r .... ,....,..■». .".■;.J;. ™ "X°™: .. - -.. ".■ "™-«-». «» ■«"
i;:;,uia,' :.'.;;...:;;,..:.. ..'..'.■ ..^ ■- > "■» •■'-■" - ■"•' •" " ^' ""■ „ , .„
«., ,.,-. ... ■■u ...;. "•;■ ;; rJ-lirs "":':». ':'e.:™;-ir'''''
'1-1,0 enrt. did iu.t say tlnit tho priests, the bi.hops a, -h. I op.
and that tl.at parly must bo foiio«-e.l.
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VA
in
U,n, l;:;!; » jI " r;o.« and .U.t o„. »l,o.U vot, uccrfins to o„„-. ccccnc
LllJOtlown rclipon. -c.n,. vntc
Ber„., u,o ,».. Coot „,„, 1,.. ».^..a. '-r!;:.nL!,'sr".v itrss^^^^^^^^ ^
Protestants. ti,r.«nv-lio
, ..... ,>.aveU- ,..at the cur. ai„ .M .pea. o^^;-;;;;^-:;;:;r:t;r ^^^iatlon to
.hould vote for the J.il.cr.l party; ho had spoken of .t daun,.Mhe piece ,.
the two ehihlreii who had died unhaptiscd.
CUOSS-EXAMINKI).
'"* ,,„,l fc.,1 ,„..U.,-..o,.,l 1,1. in».,-„«i..», 1.... I *. ».>t -■»«'»K» ■'•
Ai .,.o a.i« ,..■ i„..i ..■» »o .0. ...^ -::sr:,:nr ^"'-^"SSi;^-..,;
Trcmblay ; the .lofendai.t wa. eonsidcred a. the ( on^tnai
Liberal candidate. ... .„ tn mo
„ „„ ..,.0 U...V,, 11...1 11.0 .■...■^' -» ».-«'"-' >"■• ''■-""'»>•■ "•" '- "'■' " ;"° " ■
.„,. „1, .,„. ..,,101. 11,0 0...,^ ...a..« ..*"0., .■...I.oll. I.".o...»" »." '•"""«" '"•»"■»"•
, „„i,o ,.,,l,...l .1 ..i«™- -"» '■""■"■ "' ">■ ""■ " '■"- " °^'" "" ' -^
cures, that ho was to he voted a^'ainsl.
„,„ 0,. .....aa. .1.0 .1;..., . »;;. - - ™;-. ■- rti^t- "..r^.r EircLio;;.
rftolloii «m..i>!: tl.omsclv,-,, i.i.d l.iTl.ap* al.o «.ll. tl.o "' ° ' ,, ^„„ „,„ „„:.l,Mo which
„,, „f l.„lh parties „, ..0 o„l,. Iho ""™- ™ "J, ' 1 S pl,.o,.i . .'i.l .«> »oo a
-ir^:;:^::;;;;:n,:it:;":i:-;:;;r;:tv;"o^o«-... rn„.oin.o,o„.
do not remember it. , . r i ■ „nt
U „v.y he that 1 wa., ,o,d .i.e .s.p.ahhle arose on the subject of the sermon, but I do not
...n<!.;.,": i. ! \he thct is I did not concern myself a. all about the election.
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I was for ihc defeiulant at the said election.
The cur. spoUe of hi. sermon in the pulpit at the end oi Mard. or the ^f^J^^^.^ bo
was in relation to declarations in which hi. sermon was reported, I do not
rQ
I
m
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, „„, „, ,, .e,i..s "HLo «ii,.»., f..r .Ik- ''•■f«;»';;;^'';:;;,;:;,''itl:'i'','':it:\t
- "-'-■-'"-• r ,^"-t; X IT-';:- -: .-»■ -'■»' >' ■' "" "■''-• ■"
j.K.CLMlint; evciiin«, Iml ii> .1
/.c.pl.uin l!cr-e.-o..'H ov.denco. n^eelin-, l>ul a man c.i.uo U> loll ...>■
.emembe-..,! what I said ,,ust now. ...,,,,„ s, Uil.non, and wc have somcti.ncH
, ,..e ...ided fo,.a .eeU wUh ^1;- -^J :;-:,;' u:..;,... .. .atLcin. Unuwiedgc : .
.woan.oMUvclyihalsvod,dno,a„c. U.^cthc > , ,,eMara.ion havin,
J ... it. ol joct tl>o rectilication of iho ..tl.cr ^ ' - ^^ ^^,^„,„. ^^ ,,,. ,„e cure l,in,.olf who pro^
L,n al pulpi. as 1 have - ; - ; '^ '^^ , ,,,, ,., ...ause i. w.« .. w... hand.l U
Lg,, pared the de<daval,on wl,adi I signed, mu
"^ ^" "^ " '" ^'"'^"■. , a,U F) of t„. petitions. ..in. rca.l to H,. witness, the witness say. that
.j;:„-;:,?=tr;X^^n^^^^^^^^ _^ „
KEEXAMlNF.n.
The decda.-ut.on (oxh.h. ' ' ' ° ^„.^,,„,hop ofQ..obec.
11 was Mr. Pcllitior, advocate of the defen.la,.t, xs ho p.it 1
UOOthc meetings of.ome wit..esse. at St. llihuaon.
44
, ,„.. i u.tli thru'in, Mo'Uiriiit; thill il >onUiiii> !'.■
u-ulli, luiil liiilli ^iunioil.
Tiilu'M Mini Sworn |
...mom.., in oj.n CouH. la Mullau.. .1.1^
A. r.. KolTllIKU, J- t^- '-•
ANT. lluri'UAKD.
r I IN THE SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTIIOVKUTKI) HLW^TIONS ACT, 1874.
No. 14.
Presenl-IIon. A. B. RoUTlilER, J. S. C.
BKASSAUD, et at., Petitioners.
vs.
lion. II. L. LANaEViN, Defendant.
EVIDEm ON BEHALF GF THE DBF EN Dm.
, T,.oni.,Uiv, a.ca ..-.. ye., ninn.., o, U. pan., o. S,. Iliia. ..in. an,, s.n.
I am a rlmtvli-waraon ,„ , , i
'" ,,,.|iv.,r.l.l.cl...!<»"nlu.ftl™,»."IS««loA*cli...
, . ,, /. ,|,.|iv,.ri:il Uio l""il;.' I" A'^'"''"' ''■'-^ "'*^'
,,,,,,,,.aoi.in,orthea..onn,sWin,ov.^ -^ U,. cm. ui.werea
„,, ,„a even at th. la., ele,..ion ot a ^^^^"^^^^^^^^ ^,„j i J ^aa been hold ; in ,ha, election,
. .eccpaniea u,o ci.i. in ..^.-0... v.i. .'-; -^t^! js;::;:;:^:^-^^"-
[-(.'.lions, except
at the house ol Zophirin Sa\ ai
V
11-
45
ISSKXA.'
.1, „l SI. llil^nlmll,atll.e.u.i■wa^inlav..r ot
,|;,„uarv, :in.l.IiiU-^'l'i'^'>">''''>''l'l
CliiiSSKXAMI.NKI).
> "»; •;;''■ ;i"t";;ir;;;:;;;"":r;,;:-r.-'::..i.-i.^ '••'«-' "■ ■
, -- ■ ..; -^;-- ■:' -:;iv:,r ,::;r:;;; t^:i. ^^^ -. ,».. .
,„,^„,i„„s over .1,0 .•auli.laic n. the < uc , 1 - ^^, .
:,:„„„.^,- ,„ '->"■-""' ■«-""'■—'
Aiiswei
— 1 do iKit knciW-
1410 An-wor.— 1 know iiotliiiii;' a
at lluTO woio
I;ilitM"ils iij;;aii
st >ir. (iaiitliiei-
lioiit il.
(iiiesli<
-1, it not triio tiat the inas
•r Mr. T
am
I tiiat all his oil
)1101lts WCl'll
old oppoiKMit-; ol
i'cnil)lay s
Mr. 'I'lLMiihlay
liarty had siipi
)oiioi
I Mr. (iauthiei
AusWff.-
(Jiiostioii.
-I know nothin'j; ahoul it.
-l».> y
,„ u„ow wlio (■oniii'i>c
1 Mr. (iauthior's \
artv,
and who f(>iiii)Osec
d Mr.
Laimwin's liarty
\„swor.— 'i'iioy woi'o fonip(
(sed of two par
tics; Mi-.Ti-enihlay's paity in
1S71 was stron,i;er
I
llniil
that of Mr. Gauthior in 1S7
than
if the suppoftcrs 1
ISTj; 1 do no
l know whet
her Ml-, daiilhiei' wa;
backed by
ban of the adveivarie
Mr. Troinhlay ; C"
that eliM'tioii ; i
t was known at
tlie end of tiie election that
lours were not spoken o( in
ed Mr. (iaiiUiior,
Mr. Treniblay suiiporl
1 tSil '"'
t al the be;i;innin,n- it wa.:
d that Ml-. Treniljlay was a.i^ainsl ium.
(iuestioii.— Is it not true that you
lioasted thai you won
Id .-av here only
vbat you liked, or
.omelhini;- of the kim.
Answer.— No
.[•/
ItE-EXAMlNEU.
If t
bo thin- bad been foreseen, Asselin's party wo
ul<
li not have earriei
il the cleetion of tii
I'hureh-warden.
I eannot swear
KE-CROSS E.KAMl.NEU.
tliat those w
ho were not present at the moelini
' won
Id have voted againft.
Asselin's ean(
ilidatc.
(
1 i';o
■-5
i
■If.
UE-HK KXAMINED.
I i,„vcV(.lc'.laKmi'«l As.olinVi.irty^
I 0,^ect.n ...tninaL ^^^^_^^^^^ ^^^^ ,^^.^^ „^^^, , „„„„,„, ,,.,
, ;u,ai,;al..i.Mea. FUAXCOISTUKMnLAV,
U'lllli,
'rulioii iinil sworn |
,,,roro mo, in open O.ur. u. Mull.m., tin.
28lh August, lW<lj. ;
A. !i. F'oi'Tiiii'n. J. S. ('.
i>.."-"'^>-"''-? SUPERIOR COURT.
lUsinet ol himuciniy. S
DOMINION CONTIIOVVUITKD ELECTIONS ACT. 1874.
.• 41 , Fhntnnil District 01 Chaiii'coix, MaWaic,
rroseiit-The lion. A. B. PvOUTHlER, J. S 0.
No. 14.
BRASSAED, r<. a/., Petitioners,
Hon. H. L. LanoeviN, Defendant.
EVIDEMGE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFEmNT.
r.l .,•!- of tho iKirisii or St. Ililavion, duly Hworn on
,;,v^oirc TromUhiy, a-cl .wonty-..x yours, clo.k, ot tht p-i
n,n llivlv Kvan"olisls, dcposotli imd siuth :—
' . . , . .,.u.e . 1 .„n neither a relative, nor n conneetion, nor a servant, nor
1470 1 '-- ^!- l'--^'^ "' ;"' r.;..ier whatever in the result of this tr.ai.
tt doniestie ..f any ot tl.eni , 1 ha' '"t^f^ ,.„•,, Trmnhlav and
, •, „...» the witness will inm-o the same thin^' as I'.cric Tiomblaj , ana
[The petit.oners adm.t tlut 11^-;"- m\..no..-\
Antoine Bouehard as to the sermons of tlucui.ol^
I attended a meeting held at Uyppolito Tre.hlays hy the doH^ndant dunng the election
::.ndesTremhlay,awi.ness examined in th.eause; I wa. all the time .ear the dele.
,„a;:;d think that I saw all that passed at that meeung.
*%..
I I'^ll
1 1'.ttI
liiOO
lio.l.-liv.M..ail... I Us to him oiuUTO.inl or tlu
ivoiir Ihii* pwilivoly; I
I ■ I ho Faljri(| '0 llifulo AsHolin.
•ml)l!iv.
''"'d,urei;-wa;il.n:«l.u'l.l.a'lj-ttul<...vl«-
The....... i.in«..i.l.i-a...ut.heo, i„n „r ... ivr........ un,l „r M
T::::::z:^:::::-^^:-^^^:^^^
i:7^:::zt:-X:T-:::z=^^^^^^^
, ,,.,-, ,„ ■!„ V,,.... lo Mr TmnLluy ; 1 think .h.l over 2r, voU-l for
'" •■'>■ '"l'-"'"''"'" ' '^'■'V ''■;" r , ; . . I u. i„ M,v o,;i,.ion, l .^......1 ^.y whether that
vesiiils from the HennoiiH. , , , , . .,
, ,,., , U.,o. n,a. ..uh.. -r.v.-.hh.y. T .u.„ ...e-on, ... .^ticne l.e-...ne.. ...U ..ee.u.ea .
" favor of the ..etou.luMt..elorelho sermon ..n...-lMl,.
Si,U. we,.e .a..en when Mr. .evin e e ,o , .c at St. Ti.arion, an., when U .a. .eun-eU
ilril lie was a eaiiilii.ale.
, „, i, i i.i« ■■>■ "- .■^»- " ''^"■">- • ■ "■" "*■•""' • '"" ■""■"
!;;r;.erson. saia in t.,e luuis., t.nU ..,e cure was ..,■ ..,e aelen-lant.
, „,,, „.ve .ai,. a, a .neetin. ...a. .he eu.e was ,,- M:e ,.e,ena:w,.. ha. I ^o no, remember .C
There w.s no .....er ..an,.i,.ute a, that olee.ion ..at .he ..e.enaan., w.,.> wa. .he Con.ervat.ve
.anau.a.e, ana Mr. 'l'rem.>lay, w.,o was the Lihera. ean.lu.a.e.
. .,v u-lu.ther .hose who wen, out of t..e chureh Uia .so on aecounl of ,.>o sermon, ..at
cannol say wlu'.liei .nose w no u , „„ „f tl,om s'lv thev went oat beeuuse ot
I know ...ey went out auriny ...e sermon, ana I ..eard one of them saj ,hc>
tlio sermon.
, ,,„ ,„., ,.,ne,n.,er w.,at the cur. was sayin, w.,en ...ey went out; some went out at t.,o
,,,,.i„„in^r „f tl,e sermon, and .....ers al>out the m.aaie.
. . , • .,,1 , , the wilne- ..e persists therein, declares that it contains th*
This aejiosition lieuif,' reaa to the wiinc s. ne i
truth, and liath sij;ned.
GUEGOIR.-: TUKMBLAY,
iriim
Taken and sworn ")
before me, in open Cour., a. Malba.c, .his ^
'28th Au(j;us., 1870. J
A. B. Kot'TiiiEB, J. S. C.
, , .,....-.. . SU PERIOR COU RT.
lilerlion <■< ''
DOMINION CONTUOVKUTKl) KI.K(rn(>NS A( I, IHTl.
ProHent-'n- lion. A. IMIOUTHIKU. .1. H. C
♦ ■«»^« ' "
liUASSARI), «< «<■- retitioners.
vs.
Hon. II. L. Lanuevin, Deri-mUmt.
♦•♦
pmENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENOm.
, unow tl.o ,..vtio. in this cause , ;"\^.i,,;,,,, i„ i-.o rcuHunhiH trial.
[The vcU.i .'s =^ann, '''■'''''::,. ^0/. i.o o.'S,. llilanon.]
T,.e .,c...n,iun. lu-M a nu,o.in. J. -j;;-;; -':;:, j,. ..,, .....U.a.o, s,..aU ... t,.e .l^.n,.a..t
.,, , ..vnminiMl in this cause; .lutes 1 unii.ia,> ,|or,.,ulanl si.oUe, but I oceupiod nij^elt
- :;::;::::: ::x::'.-- , -- ■ ' -'"
"'T:::r.»: ^'^^^ri.:^'::%z:t::z::^r:z':^;^:t
'"::;»«. >™' »- 7"";':;,,.^„„,„, ,„ , ,,„„ ,.
l'"ubri.iue.
CUOKS-EXAMINKI).
the previouH cvcnm- in relation to Ik ^,'^" k I
*:v.. V
10
,,.ac,.o.Uionl,..in,rcadto the witno.s, ho po.i.. tho.-oi,,, -iochuvs U.at it contain, .h.
IIYPPOLITE TUHMBLAY.
'I'iiis dcj
u-iitii. iiMil liiitli si^neJ
Tilkon ;inil sworn
,erorcMnLNi..c>l.tMi(V.a.a,iit Mall'='io-'l''^
liSlh or August, lb<0.
A. B. KoUTiiiKK, J. S. U.
i.n.u,K.. ot (fmiuc, . TXT THE SUPERIOR COURT,
Disincl ol SiiKiu'iiiiy. S
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
/.V,.... ofaMnnler for ike llou.. ,. 0,...». .^. //;■ yj'-'"-/ ^'^"'-t - ^^'-'-«-. ^^«'^-'
2>^tli ildij ot August, i^n^t-
Present— The Hon. A. B. Routiiier, .1. S C.
No. U.
BRASSARD, el. nl., Politioners,
vs.
lion. H. L. L.iNOEVi.v, Defendant.
EVIDENCE 0,11 BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
.U-nn Buiui.te IMolc .-^vd t wenl y-sovon yuurs. lar.ocr, of ihc I':u y> of Si. Ililarion, being duly
sworn on liio Holy Kvuii.tifli^ts doiioselli and caiili :—
1 know llH. purtio. in this cause; I am neither a rela!ivo, nor n eon-ection, nor a servant, nor
M d.nne.-tie ..t any of them; 1 have no interest whatever in the result of tins tnal.
[The I'etilionors admit that this witness will prove the same thing as Pierre Tremhlay and
Anioine P>ouehard, in relation to the sermons oflhe Cure oi'Sl. llilanon.]
.lulcs Tre.nl.lay, a witness e.Namincd in this eause, declared himself lor the defendant long
before the sermon ol the liitli.
1 do not think the sermons oflhe olher eures ,.f the eounty ebniigod one vote at St. Ililarion :
I ihink it was the (laulhiei- party that gave the majority to the defendant at St. Ililarion.
lUloS.S-KX.V.MINF.n.
1 have been a rosi.lent of St. Ililarion. only sinee the spring of 18T5 ; and I .lo not know what
Mr. (iaulhicr's party was composed ol.
X'''
60
,. „ ,,;,,,,.. 1,0 pc.rsi.-.t.thL.rcin, declares thulilconuiin.tl.ctmth,
us deposition luMn- read totlu- NMtm>., Ik pi
JI-;AN IJAPTISTE IHLOTE,
Tius depo;
Tuiccn and Kvvorn |
Moronu.,i.>o,,o.-('ouK,:U\lalba>e,Uns-
•JSlh August, 18il>. ;
A. i'>. noiTiiii'.H, ). S. C.
Distrifl of Sasiit'"''.v. S
THE SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVEUTEl) ELECTIONS ACT. 1874
y.,. //„- Flrrtond nistrirt of Charh'coix, Malhaie,
Preseiit-The Hon. A. B. RouTiiiEE, J. S. C.
BRASSARD, et at.. Petitioners.
I'.S.
Hon. H. L. Laxcievin, Dei'endant.
ir)5
EyiDENGE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
,1,0 llolv l.van-clists, .lopo>eth an.l saith;-
. . ,, ■ ,..,„.... I .„>i ncitluT a irlalion, nor a coniu-Hion, nov a r^crvant, nor
-..,,:;x,;':;r::r;;:,r:;:;::::::u...-^>u.^^^
TT,. ,H.,i.io„.,. ad„,i, ,i,u. U,is .vi,n... will prov. th. .... .Hn. a. i'lon. 'IVcn.May an..
A..!;;: li;!:.l in ...ation to .,,0 .ennon. or tl.e cu,. ot St. ll,la.on.]
, u,.,... N.,.c.is.. i..iou. and Zopl.inn Savavd, witnesses oxan.ined in t.us .au.e.
,kHdair(l niysolf from ll,e ..onunonccnient ol the UaUon,
orournu-nilicT. Mr, (iaiUliior.
|„„ I ,v.s „..i .cri...... I "■"'•'.•;''.._„,,,,,,,„ .,,„||,|id„ol cliango my o,,l.il<...c...««o>.U'.
--:j;ir;;,;x=;:::::M':i:;':: 'm:i:;;:.-.. -™«". p - ---'■ ^ - "*^
t.i follow Mr. (iauthior.
■I
it
51
'I
1
if llio
,„„...„„ „,i, u,..,w...u *»--r.i. ■ .„fM,..T..,*,-.
:;;:,!:::::::---' 1-'' .»" -^- *"■■■■■
rUDSS-KXAMINEli.
•'■ ■ '- :v:, "::;;:::;::":::::;: ,„. ..,
ThiHcU'iinsilion \<v\u'^ iv:iil '
trulli, aiul tl.ut lie is uMul.lo U. si-n.
TiiUoii ami nwoi'Ii
bofbro me, in ..ihm> Oourl, at M'^"^^"''. ""^
21)th of Aiiifust, 10 11)-
A. 15. ii'ilTlUKR, J. S. C
DisUKi (»l Siifiiu'iiit}. S
THE SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVEllTEU ELECTIONS ACT, 1S71.
,■ v) , hv,,Mi,riil District ot Chuirmx, Malbcue.
Present— The Hon. A. B. lloUTiUER, J. S C
No. 14.
BlUSSAllD, et.al., Pelitioneis,
vs.
Hon. H. L. LA.NGEVIN, Defendant.
E\/IDENGE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
Kao„n..a Bo,u.,,or, a.od ..rty-nino ye.-s, ..nno. of the Pu.i.h o.' St. IliUHon, being dui,
Hworn ..n the Holy Kvu.igclists, dcposclh and suith ;—
.now tho parties in this cause ; I a.n neilhe,- a relation, nor a connection n.. a .ervanv, nor
Z of either of them ; I have no interest whatever .n the ,ssue oi tin. tual.
Tl.
a domestic
B2
.■liim;,'0(l 1110. 1 .,ri„niiicr ol' the olciti'iii.
,a,. --'"-- ™:::.".;:;---'"^^^^^^^^^
Uih.n..n ; ir .l..y .Ikui.cI »,n, it -is . > __^^ ^^^^^^.^ .^a. tl,ofiau.b or
,vUKa,Hvolbo.iinioniy...tl.-l'''-'"'-""
151)0
CROSS-KXAMISKP.
.11 ....■ ^--^-'-t^^-zl:!:^^^^^^
uuanoMneaa,e..u...m>u..i.r...,iin,u.uon,.iaiao,.^
^"*' ''•'"'■ , , ,, ,.H„c~s 1,0 ,.,si.t. tl...ci.., a..hu.es a,utitcontai...thotruth
ThisaoposilioM boing I'oaa 10 the u.l.K... hc 1
and lialli Higiioa.
BDOUAllI) BOUCHER.
Taken and Swoi-ii
before me/..i o,cu(^.urt utMalkue, till.
•28tli (•! Aiigu^*^. 1"*''-
A. B. RouTUiER, J. S. 0.
b\i
Kisliit t i.f SilV'iiilill.V. 5
the: superior court.
DOMINION CONTlJOVKllTKl) E'.ECTIONS AV/V, 1874
„ns, for thr Klo'tonil Di.-^lrirt of i'hnrln-oix, Mal'nw
El.-,a.n>^. ^lc.'''rofao■llo.s.ofr^.^^^^^^^^
]'resout-'Uu' Hon. A. 1). RoUTllIER, J. S. C
BKASSARD, et at., rctiiioaers.
Hon. IT. 1-. Langevin, Defendant.
•••
EVIDENCE OM BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
. ,• I , .,,.(•„,,■ v..'ir^ funiuT, of ilio 1.111^1 of St.. Uilarion, l)oin^r duly
sworn on the Holy JlvangolistH, dcpoBolh and naith :-
. . ,, • „. I .,m noiihi'i- a ri>l:ilivo, noi- Ji connoclion, nor ii sorvant, nor
I know tho parlioH m tins oaii.^o , 1 am nult.u i i .
a domestic ol oill.or ol'thon,; I have no interest whatever ,n the re.sult ot th» lual.
TTho petitioners admit that this witues. will prove the same thin, as Pierre Tremblay and
Antoine Bouehard in relation to the Hermon.s of the eu,e o, ,., . Ihlar.on.J
Se:;rt!;;rre.:St;r ^::rt:Ue:athat he said !o ..ard that „. part,, of Catholic Liher.
iilism wanted to sul.ject tho Church to the State.
I.;i0 1 was preset, all the time ofthe conversation ; 1 do not ren>ember that the euro then mentioned
the namTol Mr. Tremblay, and there was nothin, .aid about his principles nor about those ot the
Government which Mr. 'IVemblay supported.
This conversation may have 'asted some ten minutes.
I ao not remember that on that oe-asion tho cure spoke of the New I5runswiek schooU, and ,f
ho had spoke of then. I think that 1 should remember it, but 1 am not sure o> ih.s.
On the l.]th January .on.o persons went out of the Church ; some of them began to go mU at
bo"ininng of the seriion.
1620 " I do' not think the sermons of the neighbouring cures changed one single vote in St. Uilarion ;
the Btrengtl> of the parties wa.s known before the cures began to expla.n the pastoral letter.
The party lor Mr. Langevin was stronger.
54
CROSH-tXAMlNrn.
I ,,„,u imi.nri in the election
' ' . , I <,„!., .mr.1 l,v till' cmtf in liiH coMvornMioi. with Zepinnii
, .:rr:z:x:":r:^.r:<r:::^^'>-^ ^ ^ - -
;".. lli..'hoi.snprointc.(ll.yll'"<i"V.T..mont
, ,„„v think that tl.oSlato in lho<i..vonmuM.l
. '" „ ,, , .„,,,r.t..o,l woU wimt 1 IU.VO .iu.t HU,.o.i, without any ,.-r..n having .aK«e«tc.i
Bnilhftth h^ijjiii'd.
T«l<L*n iinil KW'vn
hofor. mc. in o,,on Court u M"!!';'''';."'"'
NAUtON (iAUTIlir.R.
A. r. Um'TIlIKB, J. iS. <".
iHH\
..o,un...KM.^ xN THE SUPERIOH COURT.
)|MIUI til Samiiitii)'. s
DOMINION CONTKOVERTKl) ELECTIONS AOT, 1874.
(,' of Conun'ms, M thi Ehrini
ihf ~'Mh (lay at Auijust, 187(1.
EM,on 01 a Member o> flee llou.. of r.„u.u,ns, M ^V /.AW,.-,/ /"^O. r
Present— The Hon. A. B. EoUTiUEK, J. S. C.
BRASSAllD, e/.a/., PelitionerP,
vs.
Hon. H. L Lanoevin, Defendant.
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
Toui.aint Bc-^con, a,c.l rtftv-livo years, ia.-u.or, of the parinh of St llilurion, being duU
hworn on the Holy Evangelist^ deposoth and i^aith:—
6A
H)iO(!«li of the ili'fmitliirit ; JiiIoH Tii'inliliiy diil imt, to my kiiowlod^^c, H|ical< to tJio ilofoiicliint, tior
l*i|fli|ii| till' liiltci', lo my kiiowloilKU. nriswi'i' liim iit the Niiiil ii^'otiiifj;; itriil it'll coiivcM-Hitlioti liticl tiiUofi
I'liii'c liflvvcuii ilicm ill the oi'ijiimry luiic, I hhniihl huvo huui'd it ; llmt moelirijx tool< |iiiu'i! iil .S|.
Ililarion, iiml iliinii;; iht^ <'l<'cliiiii iIh'ii- wimi' unt any oihi'i' inuoliiigx til llv piioiito Trt'iiiliJuy'M.
Cil'iHri-EXAUI.'SKIi.
(^lUMlJrui - I)ii yoii Hwoiir thiit .liili-* Tiomlihiy 'lid n.'tM|ie«li to Mr. J,!iiu;<'vin |>riviitoly on Ihul
iM'cnbi'ni 'I
AriHwur. — O'l my oiith, not to my kiiovvlucljify ; IChu spcikc lo him, il wa.s not Ltdoro mo.
ThJH doposilioM hoihii roiid to the witiii'Hx, ho perMiiHln tliufoiii, doidiiroH iLut it coiitiiiiiM Iho
truth, Mild tli.'il hi' \^ lUiidiK' lo .-^ij^ii.
'I'lil.-i'ii and sworn
hcloi'o me, in open Coiiit, lit Mulhiiic, thii
2!tth of AiijicU'<l, 187ti.
A. IV RotlTtllEll. J. S P.
i;sr;A.£S: ! in the superior court.
DOMINION CONTROVEHTKI) KI.KCTIONS ACT. 1874
Etertion of It Mimbcr of t/if Jlutise of Coiiiiiions, for tin- J:l,clonil J)ititrii't of C/utrleooix, Malhaif.,
the 'JUrA (I'll/of Aiiijiint, ISTii.
Presout— The Kon. A. 11. RuUTliiEB, J. S C
BKASSARD, et at., TetitionerB.
Hon. 11. L. Lanoevin, Defeiidaiit.
EV/DtNGE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
Iluln'rl Trcnibi;iy, aj;. I tiixly-two j'curs, larmer, of tlio I'ari.sh ol' Si. lliL-ii'ion, duly Bworn on
l(j!j(jtlio Holy Kvanj^eiists, dupoHoth and r*aith : —
1 know the partii's i.i tiii.s rail"" . 1 am no! a ndativo, nor a connoction, nor a soiviint, nor a
domeslii' oloitlur oCthuni; 1 lia\i mi interest whatever in the result ol'tliis trial.
[The ]i('litionerrt admit that this witness will ]irovo tiic same thinj,' as Pierre Tremblay an 1
Antonio Houi hard in 'olalioii lo the heruion.-) of the cure of St. Ililarion.]
The Hcrmoim whieh the ' m - niiiy have delivered in the county did not change one vole in St
Ililarion ; I think sides were ta -u Ip'in the beginning of the eleelion ; I know Soraphiu Lujoie, :■
ii;ni
■ • -'!^TPTffitiinftiii«' 'iMrm.irrMMfir
ihiiii
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wittK'ss cxamiiUMl in llii-^causo; liiHgeiioial ivpiilaCoii is thai of a ";)(^7 viciig/imr," tliat is tn siiy
a |iorson (it']HM)i- cliaraclci', ami iiol. Id lio rclieil u\)in\.
('li()SS-E\.\MINi;!l.
I think 1 lie curt: ol' Si. llilarinii was fur tiu' liflVMiilanl at the last cicM'tioii; the iii)l(iiiilarit an. I
Mr I.an';-ovin woro tho two t-olc candi.iatcs ; .Mr. Ti^cnililay was liir Tjihi'i-ll camlichitf. iml Ihn
(Ifl'ciiiiaMt was tin' ( "onscrvalixM! caiHliiiatf.
Serajiiiin T.iijoio is a hor.M'-tr.'ilor, ami iViMiueiitly nver-roachos ]n.'Oi)lo in c'xrhanij;ini,' horscH ;
thisi is what makes ino say lio is not ivliahh'.
This ih-posilion h,'in,n' ivail to llic witness, he persists therein, (leelares that it eontains ili.'
triilli. ainl cannot sii;'ii.
Sw(jrn liefore um.\
al Malhaio, in open ("onri, tiiis
21)tli Atigiist, ISTii.
A. li. liolTlllKlt, .1. S. (".
r'r;':,C:;;,;;! in the superior court
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
Eti'i-lion of a Mi'inbcr u> the llctusr nf Commons, for tin: t^lfntoral District oi Cliirlccoix, Malbaie.
Iht'. 'I'uUlt (Jill/ or Auijust, 187li.
Present— The Hon. A. B. IiOUiiiiER, J. S. 0.
BllASSAKD, (■/. (tl., rctilioners,
vs.
lion. II. L. Langevin, Defendant.
\{\-\)
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFEiVDANT. .
Norl>ert Ciranl, ai^el rorty--i.\ years, ranner, oft lie jiarisii ol' Malhaie, being duly sworn on the
Holy i'lvani;elists, ileposcih ami saiili : —
I know the parties in this cause ; 1 am neither a i-ohition, nor a Ci)tmeelion, nor a servant, nor
a iloine~tic oCoither oi -hem ; I have no interest whatever in liie result ol'this trial .
1 know Jules Trenihlay, oCSi. llilarion, witness e.xamineil in this cause.
At t!ie last election he wastorMr. L.Tnge.vin ; in llic first week of .lanuai'v he said so to me
tnvsolt.
Idafe>j-l!^*
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I know SerMjiIiin l/ijoic, o( Mal'ti:iie, ;i witnes^^ oxamiiiud in lliis cau-c ; lie lias ii poor repulatioii
[Tlio pi'lili'iiiors (lofliirc lliul tlii;y liave no (|iit'.stii)ii^ in cn)8sexuinin:iti(jn to pul.]
This ilopovition bein;^ lead to ttie witneBS, ho persistH therein, cJeelino.s thai, it contaiiiB tlic
tiMith, ami hatli hij,'iied.
XOHUKJiT GIRAKIJ.
Tal;t'n and sworn ^
before un\ in open ('oiii-t, at Malljaic, tlnn [
29th August, 187ti. 3
A. B. KouraiEit, J. S. 0.
j;::;SVsaSt;:i in the superior court.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874
Elertion of a Member of the Ifouse of rowmons, fur the Eleetonil Distriet of Charlevoix, Malbaie,
the 'I'.Hh ihiy of Aiijust, 187(>.
Treseiit— 1 ho Hon. A. B. liouTHiER, J. S. C
No. 14.
BRASSARD, et at., Petitioners.
:Ji
"■m
Hon. IT. L. Langevin, Defendant.
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
Onc.sime I'iloto, age 1 liiirty years, farmor, of the parish .,f ,St lliiaiion, bein- duly sworn on
the Holy Evangelists, (leposeth and saith :—
liisi) ' l^'i'w 'ho parties in this cause; 1 am ncilhor a relation, nor a eonnoclion, nor a servant, nor
a domestic ol'any <ir thorn ; I have no internst whatever in tlie result ol this trial.
[The petitioners admit that iliis witness will prov.? ih.' same \\\.<\s, as Piorro Tremblay and
Antoino IJouchard in relation to the sei'mons of the euro of 8t. llilarion.J
On the Kith of January, Flavien Villeneiive, witness examined in this cause went, out of the
ehurch, about five mimites aficr the euro had begun to explain the Liberal jiarly, I thiid<; but I ara
not sure that Uyppolite Villeneuve, a witness oxamiiu>d in tliis cause, wont out at the same time.
About a dozen per.soiis went oat during tiie sermon, nearly all of tlicm wont out at the
begiiming,
David Gilliert <lid not say who be was in favor of, but from the beginning of tlio pormon ho
KJOOspoko it) favor of tiio dofond.'int.
Zoiihinn .Savard, a witno-s oxnminod in this cnuse. was for Mr, Tremblay, and canvasHcd a goofi
doal for Lim.
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I do not SCO, [ !iin [lositivu lliiil tho ^l^!^■^n')ll.-. of iho other cino- of ilio .oiiiity did not chanj^e
Olio vot(< ill St. llilarion.
Mr. Ii!iM^'ovi;i had Mr. (Jaiitliiei's i>arty, and 1 am \t isitivo Ihai it \va-< that part}- tliat rrnvo hit,i
the majority ut St. llilarion, and that party doidarud for llio dofeiuhviit from tlio boiiiniiing of tho
election.
I know Houlo Assolin, lio passes foi' an honest man in Iho |)ari-ii : I iuiow that ho has quarrelled
with tho cure, hut 1 iiiiow notliing against his < iiaiaotor.
17(10 1 iiiiow Pitro Gilbert, a witness o.xaniincd in this cause; ho iloos not [lass with tiio public for a
truly honest man, but 1 know nolhing aixmt it of my own knowledges though 1 have had busiiicHS
with him.
1 know Soraphin Laioi(', a witness examined in this causo ; ho ji.asses for a dishonest man ; for
mv part 1 know nothing against him ; from what peo|)le say ol him, 1 would not believe him
under oath.
CROSS-EXAMINEP.
Nerou fJautliior and Hubert Tremblay wore supporttu-s of the defendant, and 1 myself also; the
cure never waid ta my house tli.-it he was a suppoitor of tho defondant, but ho let me see it in a con-
versation I had with him ; ho lot me see that heeause he «pokc to me more favorably of tho dofen
1710dant than of Mr. Tremblay ; this conversation took plate, I Ihiiik, in tho week beforo the voting;
I spoke to him in the week of the voting; I had not the right of vote.
1 .swear jiositivolv that riavien Villeiiouve did not come in again during the sermon ; I was on
that, day in tho constable's pew in ino ehureh ; 1 cannot say whether the sermon could bo heard
from outside ; I do not think so.
The reputation Zephirin Lajoie bears is that of over-reachiipg jieople in horse-dealing.
Mr. Tremblay and Mr. Langevin were the two Hole eainlidales ; Mr. Tremblay was tho Liberal
candidate, and Mr. Langevin the Con-orvative eandidale.
This dejiosition being read to the witness, hi' persists ihorein, declares that it contains tho truth,
and hatli signed.
ONESIME PILOTE
Taken and sworn
before me, in open Court, iit Malbaio, this
i;9th day of August, 1S7U.
A. B. RoUTHIKK, J. S. C.
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.,.om.o «t (}..e..«c, ) TTa THE SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMIiNION CONTROVKIITKI) KLECTIOXS x\CT, 1874.
l-:i,rln,r, of a Mcmlnr o> ihe Horn,- of Commons, f.r tin' Hln'tonil D^stnrt oi Chn-ln-oix, Malha,e.
the 'Z'JtIidiiy oi Amjust, IS it).
Present— The Hon. A. 15. Routhier, J. S. (J.
BRASSARD, et.al., Pelitioneis,
vs.
Hon. H. L Lanoevin, Defendant.
EIZ/DEIIICE Oi'^l BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
1720 |.;tiontio De-Mi;. i.T, Mirr'l Ihi: ly-fuu.' yciirs, fMrincr, ,.l' llio V:w\>\\ of Si. Iliiiirion, being duly
f^woPTi on tlie IInlv F.viinirclisls, (li'|iosc'Ui iiml siiilli: —
I kiM.w ll.L- J.arlio.. in tiii*. cau.-,ui 1 um not ii loialivo, nor a connL"Oti..n. nor a borvant, not- a
iluino-ilic to any Dftlium ; I iiuvo no iiuoiu.-l in iIk) wmM oI tlii.s li-i.ii.
[The Petitioners ailrnit lliat tins wilne.s.. will i)rov.. tin- ^amo tliin- as Tiorro Tromblay and
Antoine BoucIuirI in relation to the sernviiih of lhe<.'n!0 o.' St. lliii.rioi .]
At the election I w.is for the ,lofen.hu,i ; I ma le up my mind when the defendant spoko in the
piih'ie h.-Ul.
! am well aciuaintui with Xureirtso i ijoio and Zopliirin Savard, witnc.he.s examined in thi.'^
eaiife.
natl I baid.-ometimos to Z.ephirin Savard that 1 had ehnru'.-d my opinion on a.'Coiuit of the eure's
Bormoiis ; I think, pcrha])s, I also said so to Nareisne Lajoie, 1ml [ do not reinomber it.
Zeplieri;i Savard was always at me ; he was the eanvasser for Mr. Tremblay ; 1 told him now-
one thin- and now the other, Inil I was determined to vote for the Dofondunt; I deeeived Savard ;
I deeeiveil him hecaiise 1 diil not like to be canvassed.
1 did ncitchanj^'o my djiininn because ol' the cure's sermons.
Sides were taken frum the be-inning of the election at St. Ililarion ; the supporters of parties
were then known.
1 tliiidc it was tho fJauthier party that gave the majority to the Defendant in St. Ililarion ; " W(^
must vote." ii was said by some, " tor tlie man whom Mr. (Jauthier would bring forward ; " .M-.
!? 10 'iauthior was the iiutii v, e had elected and we had cnntidence in hi.m.
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ThosormonsoflhothorcuroMor tho county <liJ ii'>t produco nny cffi'ct in St. Ililaiion ; thoy
wore not npokon of.
I know Pilro (iilliort, ii witnorts cxiiniined in this cuiiso; ho lived in St. Ililarion Movoral yoar^
uiid now lives in St. Urbiiin ; ho ims.soH with tlio ijiiblif for u niiin f,'ivon to quurrollinj,', fond of
},Miiig to hiw, a man who speiilvs budly of thi! iino^l.-*, unddoes not yo to confossion.
It l,dimcull to bolievo that n man could malic u false oath, and I do not bcliovo him capabUt
of it; I would boliovo him on bin oath.
I know Soraphin Lajoic , bis reputation is bud, and I should have difficulty in believing hifu
on bid oath.
1T")0
CROSVBXAMINEI).
I did not meddle in the election in .pieslion ; all I did wa.- to speak to some porsons I happened
to meet.
Tho curd of our parish was thought to bo in favour of tlio Defendant.
The Dcfcndaniand Mr. Tromblay were the only candidates ; Mr. Tremblay was the Liberal
candidate, and Mr. Lan^'evin the Conservative candidate.
Tho sermons lA' the euros of Ibu neij^'bhourinj; parishes wore opoken of in tho parish ; it was
generally said that tho.so cures siH.ke against Mr. Treniblny, and that the clergy wore against him.
Tho bad reputation of Seiaphin Lajoie consists in ihat be has the name of over-reaching peojile m
hi.sdcalings about hrrscs; ho is distrusted ; ho has been known to trade another man's horse and
ITOOkeep tho" boot" for himself; I know that from having beard it said, and it is on account of such
tricks I do not believe him under oalb.
This deposition being road to witness, ho persists therein, declares that it contains the truth,
and hath Bigned. I-VflENNE DESGAGNEB.
Taken and sworn
before me, in o])on Court, at Malbaio,
this 2!lth August, 187(i
A, B. KouTiiiER, .1. S. 0.
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IW..CO or (juobm,, I TINT THE SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVKIITKI) KLKCTIONS ACT, 1874.
mrtion of a Mrmhcr ol the Hou^r of Ou„nmm.. O.r the l-JIrrlonil fhslnrt oj Chnrtn-oU-, Malbaie,
llir 'I'.Ufi daij <n Awjunt, IS-C.
rresent— The lion. A. 13. Kouthiek, J. S C.
No. 14.
J')l{ASSAin), I't.ul., Pclitionfi»,
lion. H. I. Lanoevin, Defondiint.
■It
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
l):ivid (nlliert, iigod foity-fonr yeiuv, farmer, of tin; jjarishof St. Urhiiin, being duly r.\v<)rn on
the II()1>' Hviuigolint«, ueposctli iind miitli : —
I know the i)articM in tliis eaiiso ; 1 nm neitlicr a rclulion, nor a connection, nor a se vani, lior
n domestic of any of them ; I iiavc no interest wliatever in the result of this trial.
[The ]iotitioi\ers admit tiiut this witno.s.s will prove t';o same tliin<r as I'ierre 'Prcmblay :ii,.l
Antoinc Bonelianl, in relation to the sermons ol'the cuvi of St. llila-ion.]
1170 ' was alwavH for the dofenilant at the last eleeticni; 1 did not nay, daring the election, to
Narcisse Ii;ijoie, nor In Zcpliirin Savard, 'hat I had ehangi-d my opinion on account of the cure's
sormonB; on the lOth of January I wuh at St. Irhain.
After the election Narcisse Lajoio asked me why I had not voted for Mr. Tremblay ; I answered
him, " I have never voted for Mr. Tremhlay, hut the cure's sermon, as it has been repoi'tod to me^
nevertheless makes some difference; 1 voted for the Delendant because it was my opinion, and not
because of the cure's sermons."
I know Scraphin Lajoie, of Malbaie; it i.s said that he has no rop'fntifin ; that he is a ' >r^.e
trader, who ban the name of over-reaching people in trading horses; that there is no loing
business with him,
jijfjO CROSS-EXAMINE!,.
It was rumoured in our parish that tho cures of the other jiarishcs were making sermons
agaiiist^^Mr. Tremblay.
The cure of St. ililnrion was reputed to be against Mr. Tremblay. wh) was the Liberul
candidate.
I'XiT} IxMly hitlil ihttl III! tliu clurg^' uoii' a;^uiti>t Mr. TromMi
I would |)ollt>vi' Pilro(!ilboit on liif* '>Hth, nml I tiovor luuinl ii lui'l tliiit IioIukI tiiail<' a lal.-^u niiili
Tlli^^ (lt>jiii^.iliu!i lioinj^ ri'iul tci tho wiinohtt, lio porniiiiN thoroin, (iei'IftroH tliiil ii coiituin-, thotrulli,
iwiiJ that lii> oiiiiiiut di^'ri.
Tuki'ii mill KWorn
boloru nil', in (ipoii ('(uii't, at Miilhaic, llii
■\
A. I! Uoi.'TllilK, J. S ('
ISt;;^^^^^^^^ in the superior court.
n'>MINl()N CONTUOVKUTKD KLKCTIONS ACT, 1874
FliMinno' ■( .M'rm/-n- 'if tin Ifmi.f,' nf ' 'umiin.ii.-:. for iln- h'lirt„riit [)'!~tn'i't of Chiirln'oix, Malbalc,
llir -dUlli iliii/ of Aw/unt, iST'i.
i'resont— Tli<' Hon, A. B. RoUTiliRU, J. S. C
No. 14.
BliASSARD, ef at., P.'titionors.
I'.s.
Hon. H. L. Laxgkvin, Deleiidant.
EVIDENCE ON THE PART OF THE DEFENDANT.
Aritoiiio fianthior, nf,'oil wixly-livo yi'Hi's, thi'rncr, (it flio [.uri.li n|' Si. Ililiirioii, lioingdnly swortj
171)0 "ip"" ilii^ Holy Kvaiij^(!!i>ls, (IcpoHolli and Kailli : —
. know the jiailio> in this cinio ; 1 am not rclalfd, or allied, or in the emiik)y or douiestio
KCrvirf of any of iIhmi , f am n<ii inlorusk'd in llio ovi ut of tkin suit.
[The iiotiti(>iior.i admit that this witnesN can provo tho Hanui tliint; d.s Pierre Trcniblay and
Antoino I'.oncluird, with ros|)Mt to llic sermons of the euro of .St. Ililarion.]
To my kiiowlod,i,'o the Bornions of the other cure.s of the eounly, produeed no effect at f?t.
Ililarion.
1 know I'liif (iilherl, ho is not considered as po.-.>e^sing a s-ary high eharaeter ; 1 know
iiothini,' about it personally.
1 iiuowSeraphiiiLajoio; ho doe» not boar a very high general character ; it wa.i tho party oi
i ll
II 11 1 imniMi'iii will I"" "
1800
ISIO
i'Ti
C3
1800 Mr. Oiifisiiic Giiuthicr which formed the DofunduntV party tit St. Ililaiion ; tiiis party »o declared
itseli' IVorn tlie ho^iiiiiingof tlio eleclion.
The pari isaiiMdC Onesiiio (iaiilliior, on learninij tliat he was on the niilo of Mr. Langovin,
dcehired Iheiuselvort for the hitter, at least so several pe(>j)lo told me.
CROSS EXAMINED.
1 1 was f^enci-ally stated in tlio parish, that I he cure was opposed to Mr. Tromblay, as well as all
the iiirds of the county.
I did not husy myself at all about the election; I have no knowledge that in the parish people
talked about the sermons of the ollu-r cures, hut they might easily have done so without my
knowledge; the common report is that Sei'iiphin Lajoie Is very sharp as a horse trader, and haa
1^1" taken in many of those who eX(dianged horses with him; 1 have heard notliing else against him.
1 would not trust to his evidence on oath ; I would never believe on oath a man who cheat:;
others in an extdiange ol' horses.
Mr. 'i'remblay was tlie Liberal candidate at the election in question, and every one knew it,
The jircscnt deilaiatiiin having been leailover to the witness, he jiersisls therein, declaring
that it contains the truth, and that he does not know how to sign his name.
Takcti and sworn ")
before me, in o|ien Court, at Malbaie, tliis >
2yth August, ISTC )
A. B. KouTiiiER, J. S. C.
ISA
•roviiu of qmlMO, ) STJPFRIOR COURT.
I
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DOMINION CONTROVKRTED Ef.ECTlONS ACT, 1874
I'ltrtion of a M,mkr of thr ffoiixf of Oonmoxs. far t/f F.!,rt.,r,il Pisfro't of Charlrvoix, Malbait,
, ' the 'Jl'Mh (1,11/ of Aiojiift ISTC
Present— 'i lie Uuii. A. !>. Routiiikk, J. S. C
No. 14.
iJIlASSAUI), (7 'If., r.tiiioners.
r.s-.
The lK)ii. 11. 1 . LA.NoiiVl.N, Doreiidant.
EVIDENCE ON THE PART OF THE DEFENDANT
Juste Bouchard, ai^'cil twcnty-foiir y( arH, fnrinc-r, of tlio pnrisli <.( St. Uihirion, beiiicf duly
sworn upon the Holy Evangelists, (Icjk)>o11i ami sailii ; —
I know llio parties in tliis i-aii.se; I am not iflatcMl.or allied, or in tlio employ or domostio
Hervieo of any of them ; 1 am not, iiilerosled in tlic event of this suit.
\^o(\ ("The pctitionerH admit that this witness can jin.vo the same things as I'ierro Trenibhiy ami
Antoino Houchard, with respeel to the .seimons of the cure of St. Hilarion].
I was present at a meeting held liy the Defendant at the hoiL'-e of llyppoiile Tremblay, at St.
Hilarion, dnring the election ; I saw there Jules Trenihlay ; 1 do not know when ho eamo to it; wu
left it together; i heard the whole of the Defemlant's addre-s; 1 have no knowledge lliat Jules
Tremhiay spoke to the Defendant in pulilic, iind thai the Uelendanl answered him; at the close of
tlio meeting, everyone spoko at the saine lime to the Defendant ; Jules 'I'remhiay spoke lo hiin lii.;«
the others, Imt <lo not know what he ^aid to him ; I ilo not know what was said there; this con-
versation lasted about half-an-hour.
When Jules Tromblay spoko to the Defendant ; ho wa- about ten jiaces distant from hnn, and
IPMOj fifteen; if Jules Tremblay had said, under these eircumstancos, to the Detendant, "thocleri^y
" a|i])ear to lio on your side ; if tbe^- declared themselves in your favor more clearly, it would ho all
"the lietter tor your election;" and if the Defendant had answered him, "that that wouhi
" shortly be still more j)lainly understood; " 1 would have had a knowledge of this conversation, for
the matter is I'athcr remarkahle ; 1 know f'itre (lilb.-rt, he is not consi(lere<l of much :ii'Couiit ; I
know Heraphin Lajoio, of Malbaie ; his character is bad, !."id I would not trust to ji:-. ..alh ; tho
parties declared thcmsolves about the middle of the electoral contest.
CKOSSEXA.MliNEI)
Jules Tremblay, of whom I have just spoken, is a perlectly Iionest man, and 1 would readily
believe him on oath i what prevctits my believing Seraphin Lajoio on oath, is beeau.se ho cheata
184(1 people in bis horse trades ; he has a bad character for o;!ier fh'ngs al-o ; I cannot say what thoEO
things are ; the bad character whicli Pitre f}i!bert poBrenbeS.is •I'iefo the fact that ho is quarrelling
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f):
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uilli hi:- ciiio, anil doo iidI ^o often lo (•oiifi>s>ii(ri.
Suia|)liin Lajoii' fomc-, on an avcrap; l\vi> or tliivo limes a yoar V> Si. Ililarioii
II was ^.ennallv staio,! ,n the parisl,, il.at, tl.o euro uikI in -...nM-al all tl,ecloi-v wore ,m,,„>sc,|
to .Mr. I roinlil.iy, tlic Lilieral canilidalu. "*
Thoi-ro-ont ,l..,M.siiion havir,.,' k-on mulovorlo tluMvitn..s,s, !„■ porsists Ihcroin, (loHariii.r t|,at
it conlaiii.i the Ii'iilli, and has sijfnod. "
,|, .. „ , , JUSTE I50UCI1AED.
bcloro me, in open ( 'onrt, al Malhaio. Iliis
;i'.»tli Aii{,'iisi, iMTii.
A. H. lIorrriiKR, ,J. S. ('
'i^::::r::i::::x:;A superior court.
DOMINION CONTROVEliTHI) KLKCTIONS ACT, 1874.
L'lecnon oj a MnnUn o< il,e JJ.u.. .,f C,,,,,,, ,,,,,,, f,,- u>e JCI,r,.n,l JMfnc, o, Charlrcoir, Mallnue
tkc i'dth <l,iij 01 Auijuat, hSTii,
Present— The Hon. A. B. Eoutiiier, J. S C.
No. 14.
I5RASSARD, et. >,/., Petitioners,
I '.s.
The Hon. H. L. Langevin, Defendant
EVIDENCE ON THE PART OF THE DEFENDANT
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i5oii,|,,„,l, uilli lospori to tl„. seniDMs of IlK'ourdof .Si. IIi|ari„n.]
U.e Do,.ndanl, and that tho De..ndant .poke to hi.n, at i.as, , have no knou-ledi::? i t ' '
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It Juli'M Trcinlilay hail ^aiJ, !ii tlio ordinary foiivorHational pilch of tho voice, to the Dofendantj
lg(;0" llio cIorf,'y appear to bo on your wido. Tf they doclared tliemscslvoH in your favor more <ipoiily it
"would lio all tho hcttcr for your cloction;" and if tiio DcfiMidaiil had I'opliod to him, " that ho waH
" pii'tly MUro that tliat would shortly he Htill iiioro clearly midcr^lood," I feed nun- that I would
have rcmurkod it, und that I would remonihor tho fact an well us other Ihiiiffn; Ihiw niif;lil have
hccn said, l>ut I do not romcmber it. l)Ut if this had been said, [ think I hhould icnuMnl cr' il.
Tho sermons of th(^ neighboring;- cures ])roilucod no elVect at St. Ililarion. •
CBOSSKXAMINKI).
After Mr. Tiangcvin had finished i'|)eakinf,', at tho hou>o of llyppolite Tremlilay, a general
convor'sation took place between him and several electors, among whom waH Jules Tremblay ; I do
col recollect what was said during this conversation ; Jules Trembliiy is considered to bean honest
IS70 man, and I know nothing which would |)revent my believing him on oalli.
It was generally said tlisit our cure and all the clergy wore opposed to Mr. Tremblay, who waa
tho Liberal candidate.
It was also said that the cures preached iscrmons against Mr. Tremblay.
The present deposition Iiaving been read over to the witness, ho persist- 1 herein, decdaring that
it contains tho truth, and that ho does not know bow to sign.
Taken and Sworn
before me, in open (Jourt, at .^falbaio, this
-9{h August, 187ti.
A. B. UOCTIIIEB, J. S. C.
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SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTHOVKKTKI) KMKJTIONS ACT, 1874
i.lci'tiiiH vf a Mimlnr of thv llmisi- nf CuwiiKfUs, for tin' /■Uiiinfal Diilriii uf Chiirlfvuix, Malbim,
the -I'.Uli (hiij ',f Aiiijusit, ISTi;.
rrosout— Ihii lion. A. li. Routiiiek, J. S. C
No. 14.
r.KASSARD, et at., retitioners.
r.s'.
Tho Hon. II. L. Lanuevin, Defeudant.
EVIDENCE ON THE PART OF THL DEFENDANT.
Xiii lii'i't ('(iiiliinilio, .Mfffd fifty-tivi' 3'i'iUN, (hrnici, n\' iho |);i)i>li nCS:. ilil;ii'ii)ii, beiriijcluly sworn
upon Iho Holy I'lvaii'^ccli^ls, ilc|M)"jtli siinl sailli : —
1 ktinw the [nir'li.'N in ilii-s (.vui-c; 1 :ttn rmi rc'liiiiMl, (ji- .•illii'il i,i, (,r jn i|,o oinploy or (iomestir
MTvii-o of any of Ihoni ; I :itn noi in;iTe.--li!il in IIr- event of lln-> , -.nil.
IHSO ['I'lio iK'tilioncrs n.linil tli;it this wihn'ss can provi' Iho Minic lliitiirs !is Pierre Trotnlilay iirJ
.Vnloiin' lionchard, wil h ri-.|uH'l (o llie M'lnions of liie I'liie uf ,Sl. llilarion.J
I am a chnrch-wai-ili'ii ; i \va~ prrsonl al th(' niaLiii;;-n[) of tho acnunth on \ew Year's Day.
Th(! eiire hamii'il Imek the horik^ tn lieule .Assejin, heeaiise h(^ ilid not ^o wilh liiin; anil ho told
hitn tiiat in as nmeh as ho did not u'o wilh him, he. liic cnie, wnnld not make his ])astoral visit wilh
As>olin ; ho lofoneil to their dilli'Mdiie-' aliniil ilio adair.s of tho Fahriiiuo, and to the olcclioii
of chundi-wardons whieli had jnsi taken plaee.
CIIOSS-EX.A.MI.NKI).
I have never hoard it said that tlio eiiie of .St. Ilij.'trioii wa.s o[)|iosod to .Mr. Ti-omblaj, oithei
durini; the eloetion or sinee.
IK'.tO ^'t'i'lii^ii' l>:'\'L' I ever hoard it .said tliat the oilier cnr.'a wo.'o o])po.-ud to Mr. Tromijiay , 1 was a
partisan of the I)oieiidant.
When 1 sj)oko about tho election to other Uilhitiints ol tho |iari-h, they said that it was .in
advanta'^'c to have tho elei^v on one's j-ido; and tho partisans of the JVfeiidant said that tho elorgy
wore in their favor, and .Mr. Tiomblay's jjoojilo eomi.laino.l that they wore oppo.sed to thoni.
The present deposition having boon load over to tho wiliiess, ho porsi«tw therein, declaring.?
that it contains the li-iith, and tiiat ho does not k' ow bow to wign.
Taken and sworn ^
boforo me, in ojmn ('oiirl, at Malbaie, this >
2'Jtb August, 1876. 3
A. B. RouTiiiKR, J. S. C.
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DOMINION CONTUOVKllTKl) KI.KCTIONS ACT, 1874.
Election of a Mcmlwr ol the llnus,' o/ C.uum'm.'i, fur tin'. Kivrlnrnl DisIih ; uj Clutrln-uu:, Mutbaie.
the 'I'.Uh (hiij ot Ailijuit, IH7ti.
Present— The lion. A. 11. KoUTHiK' .1. S C.
No. 14.
IIRASSAKU, </.«/., PetitioHfifr,
K..S.
The Hon. II. L. Lanoevin, Defendant
EVIDENCE ON THE PART OF THE OrrENDANT.
)ptin MailU.iix, iii;('(l twenty hcvoii Jcmi-s, tiiiiiar, oC tin- jiiiii-li ol'St. llilarion, hoiiif,' duly Bworn
upon Iho Holy Kvunf^elints, dcjioM'tli iiml wiilli:—
I know tlio imi-tioM in lliis cuuso ; I iim ncil iiImIimI, or allieil to, (ir' in .m .y or (li>fne>tic
i;)()OHorvi( e oCiiiiy oltlictn; I iini not iiiloroslcil in llic cvoiit urtlii." Miil,
[Till' pi'tilidncrh udniil tiial this witnu.-s can piovn llic i-anic tiling us riorio Trcniblay, and
Antoino lioiicliar-d, with i'e>|j('cl to liio sornion.sot'iho euro of .St, llilaiion.]
Tlio.-L'finons oltho other nciglihourini; cures |ii'i.ilii(cd im cllcil at .Si. llilarion ; I boliovo that
it was Gmithier'H party whii 1 Ljavc the niajoiiiy to iK'Icndant at St. llilarion.
OROSS-EXAMINEI).
They said in our paiish ftiat the cure was opiioHod <'^ Mr. Treuibl.-iy i I lioard it stated during
the clceliou that the curis preached stron>,'ly, and that it was not against Mr. Tremblay.
Question. — Against whom did the cures preach Htrongly ; wiw it against God?
Answer.— I do not utidorstand the question.
1910 Question. -I>o you understand anythii
Answer - 1 understand nothing about this.
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Wlirii I >; |,| thai I umlorxliKxl iii.tliiii^; I wi^liod to «iiy tluil I ilA tint niKlcritaiid tlio quodt
loni
thllt VVcIf 1.111 III UK
Tlu,
|ii'('-0Mi Ifiiif-ilidii liiivini^ lio.'ti ro;!.! uvcr to tlio witriUNH. ho |(iirisiHU tl
thul il coiilimis (lie i«iilli, ami iliut IkmJoo^ iidI kiinvv Ihmv to
raki-ii iiiid nwnrii )
boforo 111', in ii|Jori C.iiiri, u( .Mall.iiio, iIiIh i
2'Jlli Aujjiihi, l>-7f; 3
A. II. I!ui;thikii, J. S. C.
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\ SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTIJOVKUTKI) KLKCTIONS ACT, 1874
hhrlnmof a MnnI,,,- uf Ihr //,.„.„ „f r„„.,„„„,,^ ,,„. //„. i:/,,.t„r„l lh,inrf „f r/„ir/rroi.r, Malhiiie.
tlif !".'//( fidi/ III' Aiii/iift, ISTiI.
No. 14.
rroHent— Iho Hon. A. IJ. Kouthikh, J. S. C
B1{:SSARD, f/«/., Tetitionors.
Tlu' lion. H. L. Langevin, Defendant.
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EVIDENCE ON THE PART OF THE DEFENDANT
Anai.lo Gii-nrd, u^'cd M-xty-four ycais, blacl<Mnitl,, <,f (!,o iiaii.i, of Malbnie, being duly bworu
upon tiin Holy KvangollHtH, dejiOHi'tli and haitli:—
1 know 11,0 ii'.rtios in thin cause ; I am not ivlalod, or allied to, or in tlio empU.y or domoHtio
Korvieo oi any oltlieni ; I am not interested in tiie event oi this suit.
1„.„ I attended a moetin- held by the Ueleiidant, at Malbaie, during the last election at the bouse of
.loso])li Houehanl.
Ldiindre Liipointo, of Malbaie, rnUler, asked the defendant at this meeting if ho eould get any
money for ns, as iw a long time we have been sutturing for the want of it. "
Leamlre La|M,n.te was diimk, and made this remark for the sake of talking; the Dofendanl
rep led that as lor money i must not be thought of, perha]..s for six month.s, p;rhaps for a year
perhaps for two years; an<. that so long as we wore iii the oppo.sition it wa.s not to bo dreamed of;
the Dolendant said nothing olt,o to niv knowledge.
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I Idicve that .It tl.i-s mcfli.i^' l.c .-ail llmt if tlio Govcriiment wa« put out, bv n.caru ul a
,,rtition ^^.tliMt; lurlh ..,ir ncresMtios, it ini-l.t porha h liapiion that we might ohlain money,
r.t.'iii i have .H) Ic.M.whHtgo tiial the DciVn.hiiit piomise-l more than I have naid ah .v, or that tli •
,,..,,,,1,. u„nkl have money immcliately on the fall ol the (lovernnK'nt ; the Defen.lant .h.i not nay
ll.at V, .oo„ as the (lovernn.onl ha.i lallen lie woul.l .'auso tliC money to he given us, anl -lul not
hay that lie coulii not promise it heloi'o one year, or before any period.
That was all llial was sai.l wilii respeet to money.
I .-.tten.lea a meetin- held at the ho..>e of Joseph MeXleol, at Ste. Agnos, during the election ;
tiiedeien.lant and Mr. Trenibiay were present.
When 1 arrive.! the -lefendant ha.l boon speaking f..r about an lu.ur ; the defendant in my
,„.-enee did not M,eal< of the eiergy; Mr. Trend.lay, in replying to Mr. Langevin, co.nmencTd by
Haying that Mr. l/.ngevin wa> noi the only one who had the elorgy on his side that he lumsoli was
1910 idso .supported iiy a portion of the elei-gy.
He showed UK letters from priests, a,. I 1 believe that he l.ad oven one Iron the Bishoi. o.
liiniouski .
I knowperfee.lv well Heraphin I.ajoie, a witne-, examined in this cause; in the locality they
say that he is a n.an of n,. value; from his general eharae.er, 1 would not believe him on oath; tor
hewa.sa carter, and it is said that they preve.ited his continuing as a carter, because ho robbed
a drunken traveller whom he wascanying.
He has -topped n,e mvself in the road in the middle of the night, he barred our roa.l with his
vehicle, in order to ,,revent our passing ahead of him and in order to insult t.s ; <f we had be^.,
,|,.:ud of bin. 1 .lo not know what would have happened ; he ndgh- have kept us in the road as long
,„r,Oas 1,0 hked; ho challenged us to light with bin,, and m.ade use of all the ollensive expres.-,on«
possible.
cRnss-Ex.\MiNf;t).
What Mr. Langevin said in reply to La|.ointe, was, ".so Ion;; as we remained in opposition
.. there was no means of obtai.d.,g money ; - he added, •• that when he would come into power, ,»
'■ local matters reciuired it, some money might be obtained by iietitions."
I do not know what ho meant by the word., •' pe,hap< tor six months, perhap- for one year.
" perhaps for two years."
When Lapointo asked him iV.r money, it may be thai he meant to speak about the bridge which
the people ot the iilace are boun.l to maintain, an-! of a road which they desire to open; but ho
|.,iOdi,l not say at the time what hH.al rciuirenients he referred to, and I did not think about it at the
lime; 1 now think about it for the first time; 1 un.lerstood nothing when Lapointe asked him the
question.
(Jueslion,-It was, was it not. genorully known during the election that all the clergy of the
county were oiijOTsed to Mr. Tremblay?
,V„swer— Vcs it may bo that I am considered as one who wished to rob the Fabriqno of Malbaie ,
this is how it came abo'ul: F ha' made four iron rods tor the Fabrhiuo, each of thorn wo.ghod
scent V pounds; by mistake I thought that the total made three hundred and eighty p,)unds; it
was .Vndro Harvey who had made the calculatiou, and who thus led me into error; I do not know
well how lo calculate.
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Iii7(i Tho ciiii^ haviri'.^ r.H'oivo.l my nccoiint, tlio cliuich. ilun wci-rln,,! oiiu of the rods, aii.l iIumi
till' ciiio i-ciiKirkod I . mo tlmt tliu account wa-s ovor-char^rcl ; I wislioil to tako back tho rods, alio;,'
in^' that my aicoiniL wa.s eorivct; it was oidy oa my rctni'ii homo lliat I mailo tho cakmlulio'n ov-r
aXiii'i, and (v.iiviiK^od mvMdl ilial ihc aci'oiiiil was iiiconveM ; Mr. J)iili,.ro;(,r, Ih.; pi-o'.lionotary,
iiiuk! thocak'iilalion in my sh )|)-alUT the ivmU had hooii piii up, and did not porcoivo tho oiTori'
Ihi.s was holiiro lln' lilHcidly holwocii tho (lori;-y and tho okuiTh-wardon.s.
Mr. l)uIk>i.;or mado ihiM'alculutioi. '-kon I skowod him my account, conL'ialukitin^' myseli
upon havitij^- niailo a -ood har^'ain; tho nii>iako was ,„dy discovered alior the rocks liadljoon luit,
up, iind at that time I was not pai.k
Tiic ckundiwardon took away ono of iho tods and wcin'licd it, and ascertained that it weighed
IliSOiifa.dy sevonly ))oiinds; after lie iiad wei.-hed ono of thorn, lie told mo that tho account wa.s^not
correct ; ho found the weiu'lit to ho tho same as I f umd, k'ss a ■luartor of a pound ; there was an
orrru' as to tho lota! of tlic account.
It may easily he tliat J may have staled, within the kan few (kiys to someone, thai I came here
as a witness {„ tell lies, hut 1 do not believe that \ -aid it. and if ! did say so. it was lor a joko ; I
am u little deaf.
UK-EXAMINKn.
I have been deal' as tiir hack as I can remember; I have been deafer since this si.iin^', for I
received a blow.
In the business which I had with the Fabrique, as 1 st.iiod in my cro.ss e.xamiiialion, I ha\e
I'.lllO-i'ways been in ■;■ I fiiiih ; I acknowledged tho ciror in calculation, and I have oidy I.eon'jiaid [,y
the Fabriquo tor iho e.xnct weight of tho iron; this «tory made .somewhat of a stir among tho
people, thaid<s to Lonison Turcotte, the cluirch-wa.don, who hud a s|)iie against nu'.
Immediately that I discovered my mistake, I brounhi ii lo the notice of the euro, and olfereJ
my excuses to him.
Tho prc.-ent do|>osition having been road over to the wilnes;, he persists t!.orein, and halh
signed.
ANAHLI-: (ilKARD.
Taken and sworn
beloro mo, in open Couri, at Malbaie, this
iilsl of August, ISTti.
A. B. EOUTIUER, J. S. ('.
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\ SUPERIOF^ COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVKUTKI) Kf.KCTIONS ACT, 1874.
Ekriion nj a Mmibir o' tin- J to
iKc nf ('oiiiiiUfii.s, fur tin: Klii-tural Di^trtct ol Cluirlecoix, Malbale,
thi'''MUli ihtij /ii Aii'nn^t. ISTti.
Prosont— Tho Iloii. A. 15. Ifoiii iukk, J. >S C.
No. 14.
15KASSAR1), i-l.aL, IVlition.Ms,
The IIoii. II. L. I^ANGEVix, Defendant.
El/IDENCE ON THE PART OF THE DEFENDANT
Alexis (lirarcl, aged twoiity-r>ur j-ears, farmer, of tlio |)arish of St. Ililarion, bting duly Bworo
iijiiiii the Holy Evangelists, deposetli uiiil i-aiili : —
I know the [larlie.s in this cause; I am not lelateil, or allied to, oi- in liio employ or domostio
2000servi<o of any of them; I am not intere.-Aed in the I'veiil of this suit.
I know William Ilarroy, Jean Haptiste (iaiiihiei', (iillierL Hnuchaid, Koivlinand Tromblay,
Octavo Gicnrd, Louis (Jauthicr, and (icorgc Tremblay, witnesses examined in (his cause ; they were
nil partisans of Jfr. Tremblay.
On Iho ninth of January a ll:'!il had taken place in the public' hail; blood had been shod ; this
fight had been on a considerable cale ; during the week" there was much talk about tliis fight in
the parish; wo had been informed, as the cure had also boon, that ther.i w(juld be afresh liglit on
the si.xlooiith of January; it was known throughout the parish that there woultl boa tight on
Sunday, the Hixtconth, at the ehurdi door.
On the sixteenth the curd said that ho would u\\\y y^y low mr.-', in order to punish the
20 10 l''!'*"'^.^"!''''!''' who hud cau'^ed the conimution the preceding .Sunday, and advised the people not
to light.
After low mass the cure said that thero liad alrMdy been blood 8hcd in the pa^i^dl, and that
ho did not wish that any more should bo shed ; lie added, " if you make any disturbaneo to-morrow
"morning 1 will say my low mass in another place, and on Sunday next 1 will go away ; the
" ])arish will remain without a priest;" the s])irit of tho piM)plt> bad been so excited that even
iiflor mass, after the warnings of the cur^, there were some who ^o\lght to make a disturbance ,
rfter mass the cure oarne<lly etijoiiied tho pe tplo Mot i" fight; he ssld he was neither for ilr.
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rnn,.n-in rw.r Mr. TrcMnl.lay ; Ihal ho was for no party ; that ho ron.,, ,| <,„ica in his narscnnt^c;
ho ,M 1 horo ,s „nly a ha.„lf,.l of pooplo hero, and y„u li.^hl an,,,,,^. y,.„r.,elvos ; go ol.-owhcro;
20-M in ho laryo ,,a, ,>hos (|,..y do not li.,hl, and have far n.o.-o nu-a h „r knowing' whut is «oing on.
'• and Ihoro you wdl lind whothor your parly is ho stronjr, ibr y„u ^ay Ihal it is slront; hero.""
All Iho remarlcs of tho euro had roloronco to Iho fi-ht ; the euro did nni speak „\ the Cnsor-
valivo party, and did not yivo it to bo understood that it was neees>ary to v,.io lor that pany.
_ Kxfopt on tho sixteenth ol.fanuary, tho euro did not say a word .il ihe eleelioii, and on tho
sixteenth ho said that he did not wish to n.eddio with it, but tho people had no n.ed to eonie to hii
pais,.na-e to ask liiui his opinion ; that he belonged tj no part\ ; that ilir i pie mi-hl vole for
whom I hey ])leased. '^
Tho .Mire spoke of I heir beiiif,' blindfolded witli respeet to tho li^rhi ; thai the jieople fou-ht
because th.'y believed that they were stron;,' in tho iiarisb, but before doin^' so ihev ought to sou
2();j;) what was -oin- on in other j.laees, in order to soo if their party was really >o Htrong ; the euro said
that ho would SCO after mass, whether tho people loved their cure; whether tboy were goin<r to
follow his adviee, whether they were goin^' to %ht ; all this was said in c.oMeciion with iho disrurb-
ani'e.
I swear that tho euro on the sixloenlb ot January, lo my knowledge, did not say that there
wore people who wished to know his opinion, and that he was going lo pronounce il publiely • r
was present all tho time, and if the e.irc had sai-l that, I should have ivmembered it, for everything
m Iho sermon was remarkable, and to bo t.ak,-n notice of, for the Liberal, said liiat the cure preaelied
lor the Defemlant, while he only spidvo aboui iLo diHturbance.
I swear positively, that tho ei.r(< did not .ay. "I am of the Conservative parlv, and you ou-ht
2,i4'l " also lo belong to it ; " he did not allow it to be understood lor what par l\ he wa>,'he only preached
about the disturbance.
The cure said, "go olsewhore ; " bathe i id not speak of les I',', ailcments, and did not say.
that thero the people were enligbUuied, and that, they were going to lolb.w llio tlorgv, nor tliat tho"
people, as a matter of conscience, ought to li.llow tho clergy in eleclion mailers; hJ did not speak
about conseicm^o, and di.i not say, that it was noeos.sary to vote for the l>efen,lanl as a maKer ol
-^'•i"ii''o; Iio reproaelied the people with treating one anolber h-Mlv. ii.id abusing each other at
'"""" ' ''■"' ''''^ ''•' ^•■'' ^w" ''■""' tl'oir children at school who called one another ventres pourns;
tint some ]u»l como oven into Ihe par.son:»g^ to insult him ; that .;ui- parlv bad boon called vcnin's
-owns, that if ho wasofihat be should holi himself insulted.
'-"»•">" ":. -^aid that ho w.Mild see alter Ihe election whclher ihoy wished to take his advice— whether
lln«> V ore wise ; that he did not desire a disturbance ; be said this with respect to tho tight, ami
not wi(h rofeiMneo to the W<x-tion ; tho .sermon was much di.scussed during Ihe Ibllowiii" week and
[woplo said il.M Mr. R.y w>Pt morv strongly for Mr. Langevin tluu. for Mr. TrembhuC'i igh tho
cure had not said ibat tl.oy w«.j. to vote rather forone than for Iho other, nor >aid' anythTiig to
-ivethein to un.lei- .m, ' iliat tkey were to vote for ww rather than for the uiher: h was'"the
l^iberals who compla;-*,^' ., tfeis -amv ; he did m)t .say tMt in onseienco they ought to be conferva-
live; the euro on tho .,x ..».,tb ol January did not rea-l tho circulai' or the' mandate, and did not
speak ol them ; hedi I n..l .^»y di.U Ihe iwopleatthe Kboulmonts lisKM.od to tho voice of their cm-d ;
w,lh n.spcct to the cleetiou h*did not say, •' You o«ght lo belong- to the parlv of your pric«ts ; if
•-'OftO.Vou love pnesis y >u should follow their party.
lie did not -tat*.« to what p.ariy thepriestis bclongwl.
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The cnr6 Hftiii, " Vnto iiroiilin;; t.. your conscionco; I have no a'lvice to K'vo yon, providel
you emu.! no .listurl.uruc ;" l.o .lul not kuv that it was a mn and a (Mho of conscionco to vote in a
certain way rather than in another; wh.-n I ^ai.i that the ..no had not .poUon about conHcenco, im
I Htatod abovo. I thoUf,M.t that I was asked whether the cure ha.l .aid that they oUKht .n consconce
to vote lor the IX-fendant ; the cur6 never «aid that, neither lor the Del.'udanl nor for Mr. Fremblay,
liir lie did not Npeali aljout them.
On the Hixtoonth, it was said that on Saturday the Blues would not voie ; ti>e eur6 said, " you
wish thou to create a brawl ; I <lo not wish that you should cau>e a diMu.l.an.e, and 1 .hall see on
.»n„Satunlav whether 1 have boon listened to; allow the people to vote lor uho.nsnever they ,,lea.se,
rnaice no disturbance;" ho did not say that ho was going to see in this eleeti.... what eontrlenee
the people roposod Iti their priests.
Tho • ' <lid not sav that on the ninth of January they bad insulted the Hlucs, and In this way
they had inMdled his paVty ; he did not say that if they did not follow their euro in nmtters of
electio,. they committed themselvoB, nor that the people were obliged, in eonscenee, to t.dlow
whatever the cure told them with roforonco to elections.
' The whole of tho sermon ol the cure relorre.1 to tho disturbance which had taken place, and
not to tho election, and was intended, and did tend, to prevent new brawls.
CROSS-EXAMINED.
..,«„ Tho Libcals believed that the cur6 had spoken against .Mr. Tremblay, because he had spokon
anainst the li-ht ; had it not bee., for this sern.on, we shoukl have been assaulted by tho ItougOB,
and, as tho cure provonted that, it was believed that he spoke on behalf of tho Defendant.
I am not ablo to state, even n)ughly, how long the sermon lasted ; but 1 know that it was not
very long.
1 only lomcmbcr tho more remarkable points of tho serm<.n ; the cure punished not only those,
who had acted as blackguards, but also those who had not so acted ; there was no high mass for
u„V one; by blackguards, I mean t<. say those who fought; tho Liberals were tho most e.xc.ted in
the parish; and that was because they were in a large majority, and because the Conservatives had.
.„> ti.e preceding Sunday, driven out tho Liberals from tho public hall, although there were only
9o..oalM.ut live Conservatives to about eighty Liberals, and because, on the sisteentb, the Liberals wishe.l
to take their revenge ; I vas of the number of blackguards who «ause.i the disturbance.
I d., not recollect the whole of tho euro's sermon, I only recollect what touched upon the
preservation of peace.
To my knowlod.ro tho cur6 spoke of nothing else but tho disturbance ; when the cm-i spoke of
ventre pourri, it was not on this Sundav, but on tho following Sunday, that is to say, after tho elec-
tion ; everything el.so about which 1 have spoken, except what concerns k ventre pourrt, was naid
by the cure on tho sixteenth of January.
This is what he said ;— ^' ' I sav a low mass in order to punish the blackguards who eause.1 the
disturbance" then ho said low mass; 'ho said that if the disturbance oecurro I after the mass,
•MOO that he would go an<l say h's low mass in another placo, and that they wouM have to do without a
priest •• ' ho said. " open your eyes, go to other places an<i see how they conduct ihcmselves ; we are
but a iiandful of people, and always disagreeing;' " this is all that he said on that Sunday.
It is of this sermon that I have said that tho h'ouges of the parish complained during the fol-
!owiu<: week ; they were excited before.
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I u>u ..orl.ur.-, -..r.uunu.. I.avo .TmemLorod, and uchufm, hUo. M.nu-ti.noH, noUomcmborcd ;
..|.en one ': ' ..^..i.H.o.1 one rccoU--.. muny .hingn which one Id n.,. n...,ui.r w.il
Q„«,tlon. -How doo. it ha,.,.on that wh.u I ,,noH,i..ned you, y..n -li -vn-lt. .t IhinKH vvluch
y,„i huvo Htulrl wl.on iho ..ih.M' advocate intorro-utcd you?
It U l>.,..,iu.c the mi.wlin-w were no! put to mc in ll,c .utnc luMimrr; the other
;" "7 ,. 1 (".n V i h 1,0 ,.ad the .natters at length, and put .h.n. ..karly boforo
' ;;:: w;;::iru.o;i:r;;:2c^ i: ..ut t., » .i^ht ..avo re.K.rt. . .. ..- ....• ^nr. a. r
,11,1 i„ Ml 1- to tlio (piestiour* which y 1
'l-tK, UH.nduMt in .he udd,v.. wh.ch u-liv.ml at St. l.enco, said .im. - Mcr^jy were on hi«
l;,d '.■t.inr... i., we holiovcd that tl>o euro was on hi. Mdo. hut .ho cur, ,..d no. .oil u. ....
, W.H .or the ivtcnd:. • .t .he oloc.ion in quostion when the cure .poke of co,,M.ieMce, i. w.w
U. Jy .Lvt poop'.. ou«h., ,u conscience, to rospeC ono another, and no. cause a dMu.hanrc , ho
did no. Hpoak of consclonco in any other .en.o.
RE-EXAMINKD.
When I s-xi 1 that tho cur6 had punished not ..nly those who had ac.cl as hhu-k.^uards, but those
VVhon 1 H.X 1 ..ai u ^^^^.^^^ ^ ^,^^^ |,iH,.u.uanls, and, us a mutter oi
;;;t:::;h:;L:::;:;:c:;Lr wc -..nished, but ^t that ,he cur. intended t .msh the no.
I)lackguardn,
Ouostion -no pleased to slu c under what circumstances the nonserva.ives chased the Liberal.
.„., .nt H.iie I'll, althou,.. they were only about tive to eighty, as you sta.od >n your cros«
examination ?
Ohjcclod to as irrelevant to tho suit.
Ohjectiim maintained.
The Defendant takes exception to (his ruling.
Tho cure might have used tho wonl poHrri in his Hormon, but I don't rcn.e.nhcr it.
When 1 said that tho other gentleman had his paper from which he read to n,e >i,o mattors at
lon.ah 1 mo then, clear to Tno, I wished to say that that caused me to re.nemhorth.ngs wh.ch
I ;i:ouid 1 io ren.embered without it, and tho questions which have been put .o n,e hero havo
never lieeii pat .o mo before.
The present .leposition having been read over t^ the witne,ss, he persists therei.,, de. laring tho
fame to contain tho truth, and hath signed.
\\,v:c. oiHAUD.
Taken and sworn ")
lietoreme, inopen court, at Malbaio, this ^
30th August, 187tJ. )
A B. ROUTHIER, J. S. C.
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lUslriit o« SiiHiu-niiy. > ^
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACP, 1874. ,
No. 14.
Present-The Hon. A. B. Eoxithier, J. S. 0.
BRASSARD, cl. «/., relitionoi s,
The Hon. H. h. Lanoevin, Dclcndanl.
EVWEIICE OH THE Pm OF THE DEFEMOm.
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n,o,H,v U. tlK> poorlo as noon a. ^l'^"^;^^;,,^ „^, Govornmenl luul fallon.
. . ,i,Mt lo cdukl not promiso mono) Ucioio .
^' . , ,1 that they h.vo no cro.s-aue.tio,. to ,.a to the .Uno...
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SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTrv()\q-;ilTEI) ELECTIONS ACT, 1874
ElMi'm nf a Member of the House of Conimon.i, for the Kketoral District of Clmrlevoit Vatbaie
:\ Uh Awjust, 1871).
P'-esont— Ihn lion. A. B. RoUTiiiER, J. S. C
No. 14.
URASSARD, el at., Petitioners,
lion. n. L. Lanoevin, Defendant.
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
Ai'Ljustin Trctnblay, 59ycnr.sofnge, fanner, of tho iian'sh ofMul
Jfoly lOvanyelists, (ieposoth and saith :—
laic, boiiiir c
July
■.worn on the
I k-tiow tlio parlies in tliis nw<-: , I am noitlior a rolutivo, nor a
21()lt'ioniestie of any of tliom ; I liave r.o iiilLMvst in tlie result of li
conneclion nor a seivant,
nor a
lis suit.
I 'vas i)resoMt at tlio mootin:,' lioM ly tiio Dofomlant at Josi.pj, liouelianl'.s. .
Tiio Defenilant. lia.l not spoken of money in iiis .si)oech ; after his speech an elortor Loandre
Lapointo said to the Defendant, " the Rouges nay that if we vole for you we sh;.ll have no money from
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the (iovornmenl"; the Defendant nnswored him that, weou-ht not to oxj.eet to have any as he was
in opp.>ition ; tiiat in this eleeti , ,;.ere was a question of prineiple; that iaier, if thelJovernniont fell,
wo mi-ht ge! ourshure of the -rant^ like the rest ; I swear that in this circumstanee, in my opinion,
the r)efendant did not i)romi.e any money; when he said that it wa.s aqucstion of principle, reli-ion
was in .[uestion ; the Defendant did not speak ol'relij,'ion at that meeting, bu; he spoke agaiust'lho
F)ominion ^io vera men t.
CIlOSS-EX.*MINE[).
I understood by a question of principle that reli-lon was concerned, like all imp.,rtant tilings oj
the earth; 1 understood that if the I.ihe.ial Party 'omainel in the ascendant, reli-io., would ho in a
l)ad wiiy.
Que>tion.— It was generally .said, was it not, that all the clergy were tigainst Mr. Tremblay ?
Olijected toby the Defendant; 1st. btcauso thi.s question tends (o j.rove a genci-al sy..(em of und^e
(derical imluence; 2nd. bccau.se, it i.s not pertinent to the issue.
Objection sot aside.
The Defendant takes cxcej)1ion to this judgment.
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Answer, — Yos; It was not bccaiiso al! tlio cluri^y wore Haid to bo for the Dofi'iulant that I
Slf^il uiiik'iMtood lliat by tbo torm a qiiostion of pritioiijlo tlio I)c('oti(lunl mount to nay Ihatrcliyion was
(;i>iicoi'ni!il.
This deposition being romi ovei'to the witness, he persists therein, dcclarinj; tliat it contains the
tT'iilh, and dechiros tliat lie eannot sif^n.
Talccti atid sworn j
hohtro nio, in open Court, al Malhaie,
this :^Otii Au(,'iist, 187(3. j
A, n. ['iOiiTiiiKit, ,1, S, C,
I'll MIU'C Ot (jllPl) OC, >
District ol Hagueiiay. )
SUPEP/ )a COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
Election o/ a Member 'or the House of Commons, for the E/crtoral Distriet ot Charlevoix, Malbaie,
'M)th Awjust, 1870.
Present — Hon, A. B. Routiiier, J. S. 0.
No. 14,
BRASSAUD, et. al., Tetitioiiers,
T'.sr.
Hon, H. L. LiVNGEVlN, Defendant.
EVIDENOE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
Klie (iirard, of the a<^o of twenty-four years, farmer, of the parish of .St, Iro.iee, l)cing duly
sworn on the Holy FA-anijolists, deposeth and saith: —
1 Icnow the parties in this cause ; \ am neither a relative, nor a connection, nor a servant, nor
a domestic of any of them; I have no inlei'est in the result of this suit ; 1 was at the church of
St. Ircnoe on the Kith .January last.
'I'he cure in no way spoke of the election ; all his sonuou turned on the disturbance there hiui
9]9(jbcen, and on the keeping of the peace,
llo did not speak of tlio Lil)ei-al party nor of the Ci)n.servativo parl\', nor that one ought to bo
followed rather than the other ; ho said nothing to lead to the belief that people ought to vote either
for ilic Defendant or for Mv. Treinhlay ; the did not speak of hat ; he did not say that people should
follow their cure or j)i'icst in relation to an election.
lie did not say that some one was desirous of knowing his opinion ; tliat lie was going to tell it
to them jiublicly ; that he was of the Con<ervativo party, and that the electors should be so also .
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lid iliil tuit tn\y tliiit, at IcisKlioulomuiits tlio ponplu woru so ciilij^htonoil that tlioy woronoiiiL; lo liillow
till) clortfy. ini'J that, tlio oloetoM of St, Irorico ou;;lit, in eonscionco, to do tlio hhixw ; tlio (uiio ilM
iiol way Iliiit lio wipiilil H(ui afU'r tlic olfctioii il' tlio peoiilo likt>il to follow llio prk-sls ; Ik- iliil not say
liitl |)(M>|)li' sli ml I, in i.'oiiMcioiU'i), li(< ( ' insi'i'valivi- , lie (lid not spuak ol' Ium Khoiilotuont-t.
'i'hc. cniv told llio poojilo to taUo oil' llui liaiuiiiL^o they liail on tln'ir oyos, to
>-oi' clcai
Iv; tliMt
I lie |i;irlv was too niiinoroUH, tiuitr they oui^lit nut lo tiirlil, that ho diil not wish to hoo hloodMlinil,
and lio did noi say to iliii pdoplolo fro and »oo olsewhoio how lhinfi;s wort' goiiif^.
Tin' I'liri' sMJd that ho should soo what I'oiitidonc'o till' ,,ooplc had in liitn, it tlioy lisioncd to
liiin, it' ihoy ium lo no ti-oiihlu.
Tho euro did not say that thrrc w 's a I'oiiscionco to ho i'ollowod; tho jiooplo must follow I heir
cure; that if they did not follow iiim, th(\v woro pawned {rmjaiiis.) \ that tiio poopio woi'o hound, in
ooiiscionco, to Ibllow what tho ouro loM (lion in relation to an (doction.
Tho euro said tiiat tho Lihoral jiarty was strong in llio pjirish, hut it wa-i not as strong
liiilO olsowhoro, an<l that was in relation la tho lii^ht and to provoiit the pooiilo from tii^hliii^i; a^ain.
lio HUid to thorn, " look olsowhorc, tho party is not as stronj; as it i.s horo."
When I Sill 1 that tho (Mire did not say to tho pi^oplo d
goinj,', I did not properly undorstuiid.
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Isiuvlioi'o li'W iliiiii,'s woro
lie said to the poopio, vote for whom you will , provided you listen to me, and do not ijiiarrol ;
the euro did not mi.x himself up in tho oloflion to my knowdedgo,
CKOSS-K.XAMINEn.
There was only tho time when I said just now, that I did not utnlerstand tho quest ion, thai 1
nvillv did not understand it, for lam v ry sure thai I understood all tho other questions wlii(di
were put to nu> ; I am very sure also ihiit all that I have said is correct, and cannot ho odioi'wiso.
222i( The cnie did not H]ical< of coiiscietico hofore mo; T am very coi'tain that I heard all that ho
Miiil. and I am very certain that that word was not uttered heforo mo.
I am not sure that 1 can recall all tho sermon, but I am very certain that 1 can recall ali that
he sail ill rcdalioii lo tho quarrel, and lio did not uttor tho word conscionco in relation to that,
siiliject.
Tlie ciiiv did not s]ieak to my knowledge of anything other than tho quarrel.
This was the cure's sermon : — lio said tli:it ho did not wish that there should he hloo Ishe I, that
he knew that they wished to create a quai'rel and that he diil not wish that tliei'c should I) ■ one in
his lime ; tliat if they would not listen to him, ho would only say ono hiw mass that day and tlio
1,0X1 iiiiiig ho would say his low mass elsewhere; if theydid notlistcn more to him on iheno.'ct
12:ii)i'>in>'''^' '"'"'""''' .^" ''^^'^y ' I't* tl'cm called them hlii -md told them to take olf their l);i!id;ii,'e, to
see eh^arlv, so that they should have no quarrel ; ho .sa; i tho party is strong here, liut it is not iia
strong as elsewhere; ho said that ho would see whether they had contide;iee in him;
that if they had conlidonco in him they would not have any quarrel ; ho added, vote for whom yon
will, provided you have no quarrel ; that is all that he .said, I am very certain of it; the euro did
not say lie.'ore me to the electors to vote according to their conscionce.s.
Tho eiiie did not sjieak of rotten belly {ventre pourri) on that Sunday; ho sjioko of it on the
folloiviiiif Sundav : 1 did not hear foi- whom the cure was.
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A person mUHt toll niofor whomho !■< for ukUh know; ill hhw any ono working; fur n candidato
that wouM not nmko mo think tliiil lie was ".r him, liocmiso ho minlil worit for him, iiml a;j;iiiri.'<t
SililO him ; I did n(tt ovon xiirmi.'^o (iir whom (ho i!iir6 wim; ho Kiiiii Ihtit ho did not mix in eloclionx ; ho
did not hhow tor wiiom ho was; but it vvhh nut to mo that ho .said it, it was to one of my I'rionds;
I am Miro tliat lio di<l not say it in the scrnnin cif tlio tilth nC January; tho curb's sortnon laMtoJ
uhoul Imlfan hour; he Hjn'aks witii an ifrdinary doirroo of ra[iiliiy.
ThiH di!])iisiiion hoinj^ road to '.iio witncMS, hu persists thurcin, docluriiijj that it contain;* tho
truth, and hatii Hignod.
KLIKtilUAUI).
Taken and Sworn )
before mo, in opon (Jourl, at Malhaiu, thih v
30th Auyuft, IS7(). )
A. H. Ui)i;TmKn, J. S. C.
I'nolMcc of Qiiclioc, )
District t>( SUKucnuy. )
SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVEIITKI) ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
Elention of a Member for the House of Commonn, for tlw. Electoral District of Charlevoix, Malbaie,
'iUt Auyust, 1871).
Present— The Hon. A. B. IIouthier, J. S. 0,
No. 14.
I5RASSARD, et at., Petitioners.
vs.
Hon. H. L. Lanoevin, Defendant,
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EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
Tho Jlon. Diivid K. Prico, .Sonator, of tho I'ari.sii of tJhicoutimi, being duly sworn on the
Holy Hvangclints, deposoth and sailh : —
I know the parties in this cause ; I am noitiicr a rolativo, nor a eonnec-lion, nor a servant, nor
a dotnostic of any of thorn ; I have no interest in tho result of (his suit.
22.50 1 have kn. ■ i Andre Carr^, senior, farmer, of Maliiaie, a witness litvii-.j in tiiis cause, for a long
time; during tiiO election, al)ont the 12th or liUh January, while returning from our iunibering
phantios on Kivioro Noii'O, at St. Simeon, F stopped at tho said Andre Carre's to see L)uis Tremblay
dit (iueuotte, at Pert au Percil, at St. Simeon; I had enijuired aOuut the said L')uis Tremblay, and
was informed that ho was at tho house of the person named Andre Carre, and it was specially to
Boe him that 1 went into Andre Cai ro't:.
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, ,„v.. knnwM I Trombluy ...r ...n,.. ,l,ir,y ye.tr., l.u wu. ouo olour oM '•'"Pl-y--. "^-J
,..„.. „1,1 .l,u. ho wa, l.lin,l; I wi. I ■ 1 • -v r ......1 l.i. .lo.r wi. -.-Pl-^ -> -"
liirn 111- III I'liiinii'"' ulmiil him.
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;!;;n^X.. ;;;,:; U.\..y has. Hai.l. h... . .». ..e,..ui-. .hat I ..vc.. .na,i. h,.n any Clo.-, no.. ...Kc to
him of olocliorw.
i::r;r;A:r;s:r;;:::;::;:;ru^^
ptiiil hO little uttonlion to thut ihul 1 .1.) not ivnio.i.lK.r.
C.no ttovcr .iA to tne, M tl Ic y,. s" u,„l if h. I .u.l tho.e wo.U I should re.noml.r
thorn • it novor oi.toml into my miiul to ollor htm tinylhin),'.
hpilU(!ll <lt lllt'lll.
I passcl thro.i-h St. Urbain on tho 8lh January last.
At Chicontimi I had loafnod hy lotto- that ^'"J I'-'^^V^^'uIS^^hr ,1:;^::: t^li:
,K„l.ndant, and 1 oonvinccd my^elfof it whon \l'='-^'' I ! '•'\'^ .yj ' .l., 1 , I wasconvinood
,„at tho Dotbndat.t'H olootmn was -^!' '• .^. ,; ^'^ '' ;,,,.,,,^,,, ,, ,„,e,v ofSt. llfbain.and of
„„a tho Defendant would have a ^^^XX'Jl^Tiv^^^i 1'. ul, who,,. 1 U-fw of.
■i„. d.lbotion of some 'M parti/.ans ol Mr. Iro.nl.l.u at 1..ik
„n. boa..-c the election . had learned that at least 15 votes o, old parti.uns of Mr. Tremblay
,,,, ohati^od ; it wa. Dcni.s CJa.ithier who gave ,no that .nformat.on.
U was perfectly well Unown that Mr. Tromhlay would uot sttceeed .n the county aga.nst a
,,„,,„lar and well-known candidate i;:.-o Mr. Lan-ev.n.
,„ „.,,„ ,„...., I ...w a ,reat nnu.y people a.er mas. at ..do S. ..aul; «-ral ..^U.o
,,,, p u-.i.:.,s Of Mr. T.omhlay .old ,no s,aa.vly .hat .hey ^^^y^'';^^^^ ^'^IJ;!,, ,,;,,,, „„..
,..,J.,. th.U .|>^V -re .bs^tisned ;-';:,J;';:i:::;;;;''~;l^::r ^It'Lo the hands of a
^;;;:;:' ;^::::d;:;.;r:.tC J"i- 1,';":. •;.,. r. ., that . to say, those whohad worued a.
'"" l!!!'told at St. Urbain that the ish ha 1 tun.o i ,t,ainst Mr. T,e,nhlay in consequence of
,,i.. votes upon the Kiel and I/pine b.tsiness and the New U, un,w.,.U .chooU.
CROSS liXAMlNEU.
(iu.,ston.-You look a part, did you not, in the last election in favor of tho Defendant?
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•.;;il(li.r>nvlin- oK.-clio:., a-innt Mi^. ...i iv..ui M . . ' " " > • ,,,,^/Mr. Lungoviu a majority of
i„T2::r w;;;:,;^ct,a;:';;:" ...°..^. «...-. > uu.,,,... ,„ m. « ...u,
"'"'"',I,„,u„„.-w..,-.y U.U «,.. I ..™.. "1.. »».>-.».-.~^ i '•-«•■ »■"■""■ """ '-
„,|,„;,„l»r»„,lw„,ilJ sot ,». ...»..y vot«»M.Ml..."V,.»»(
popular tliun Mr. Chauvoau.
Q,,„,i„„.-,K» .i„ y.. »,1 .1"' »•'■ I---' ' "'■■ '^ "»■ ''""^- "^"""^ ''°"""'"
2810 did nut obtain ti.o namo results?
I . wv 1..1,. ■iii.l Iciiowiti" witb whom we bad to
An.wor.-It is because ^rr. Cbauvcau c=unc d-wn ^' ;^^; ^'J ^'^ ^ .^^^ ,,,, organisation
dealinMr.Tremblay,wetluslimoorga,umlour...lvo. xNcll t.. path.m
whieb wo had this time is the seere! of fnen.ls.
tJiiestion,— Please tell us that secret ?
.-^■n, be (.o,npromised b.iraself as well as hi. parly.
" " All that I ha. .t said about that correspondence is from having beard .t sa.d by M. .
Ciiuthier himself. .
-rii::=r=jEr=i":r;:x^^^^^^^^
.,„ainst him ; at least Mr, Gauthier told mo so.
" Ouo.ion -Vou and Mr. D. C. Thompson collected, did you not, S0,000. or a ccrtam sum, to
H.sisl'ibo Dofendai.t in f,e election which is now in .lucst.ou .
An.wor.-i never collected, nor gave, nor asUed for a halfpenny to assist the Defendant, and do
not know that the thing was done by others.
p;;,^c;;Uu.J as to the .acts which it is proposed to prove aga.nst bun.
Objection reserved for hearing on the merits.
. . .• I i,.,iint nnd tbo electors did not know how to use those
any.
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(Jiiolioii. — In i( not ti'iio lliiil <iiiriiiL; yonv oliiclimi as a Li',:,'islalivo ('oiiiicillor, you pci'soiially
2:U'li,''ivo two (loliar-i ami a li:il( to Hyiipolilc Siinani, ol' Ikiio St. I'aul, iimlcr |)roU'ticc of jiayiiij^ for
his vohiclo, liiit in ro.ilily lioituiist; ho voloil lor yoii ?
Olijoclt'ii to liy the Ili'f'oiiiUuit as not |it'rtinont to the issue.
Ohjeclion .set aside.
•\ns\v<M\ — 1 never paid a hall-penny to the only II\-ppolitc Siniai-d that I know, and 1 never
' ihl a vot(^ ill my life, and I never waa tiic eause of one being bought.
1 spoke foi- the Defendant to my friends during the eleetion wliieh is in question, and I louud
all of them right.
(^iioslion. — [s it not true that during the said oleetion you made a speecli, or specchc!', for the
Defendant, in whicli you spoke oi' the Holy Vii'giii, and said that you were a ("atliolic ?
•';{,■)() Answer. — Ves, I said that 1 was a Catholic, ln'cau-e all Christians are Catholics, but I did not
say that 1 was a Roman Catholic, and 1 did not speak of the Holy Virgin.
f^iiestion. — Ih it not true that you said that with the intention of causing it to he believed that
you were a JJoman ( 'atliolic like your hearers?
Answer. — No, the jieojilc remarked to me that it was curious that I, being a Protestant, had
always had the confidence of the Catholic clergy; 1 answered that I was proud of tliat conlidenco
whi'di had been jilaced in ine, because if 1 have not deserved it, I should not have had it; that I
rc>peciod the Catholic clei'gy like the Protestant clergy.
(iiiesfion. — Had you, ^-es or no, the intention of passing yourself off as of the same religion
as your hearers?
2;ji)0 .\nswer. — No, and the people knew very well that 1 was not ho.
(iuo>lion. — Is it not true that you visited one of the cures, and that you told them that Mr.
Treni May was a Catholic Libei-al?
.Answer. — No.
(Question. — Is it not true that, during the fortnight which preceded the polling, you met Mr.
Sirois, the cure of Bale Si. Paul, and said to him, "thunder loudly, for if you do not thunder
loudly we are lost," or somellung in that sense ?
.\n-wer. — It is very certain that 1 did not say "thunder," nor "enlighten them," for it is not
the ca^e ; I did not speak to him during the last election, except twice; the first time I wished
hi 11 A happy Now Year; wo may have spoken of election matters, but it wa.; in a general manner,
2,570 md I do not remember what we said.
(,)uestion. — Is it not true that, during j'oiir brotlK'i''s eleetion, in 1S75, you endeavored to
intimidate the men of your shanty by collecting them, the evening before the polling, or the even-
ing before that, and saying to them, " if you (h) not vole fir my brother, I shall close my establish-
ment, or something to that ctfect?
Answer. — I never did that, f never caused it to be done, nor aslced to have it done, nor
intimidated a single elector at any election whiitsoever, an 1 if my brother William was elected,
and during his absence by the ballot, it was to show the public that the ballot did us justice, and
the corruption and intimidation which had been asserted loi'scj long a time against the Price family,
did nut come from us, but from our opponents.
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2;iS0 I swoar thai our opponents pnicticcl inliini.h.tion in the cuunly of Chicutimi.
(i„o.tioM.-I. it not true that a. holder of ti.nhcr iirnits you have not always rerwleml to tho
.;„vc,nnu,„t ..onoc. aceount of the .lu.ics on the ,fan.fo..s of li.uit. an.l on tnuher .ut, wind. jca.
" Ans!vor.-All that wo have l,a.l from the (fovornn.ont, We have well p,u,l ''•■•' ;--;;;f"«
p,i,.., foes on eul.in, un,l ,rou„a rent ev-ry year ; we hold our reee.pts ; we never hau a t.an.ior
oilinuls iro.n any pernon, and conse.p.o.uly we never owe.l .lulies nu trauMer.
The limits at liiviero Noire an.l at S;u.lt-au f.H-hon have always heon i,. our name.
Quest-on.-I. it i.ot true that you .ai,l at Au.e St. Jean that the priests were anti-christH, or
something to the same offoel?
rm Answer.-! never said that oi.her a. Ause St, Jean or anywhere else, and I «hall never say it.
(^.estion.-ls it not true that yo,. said at the he.innin, o, the elect i.ms that you were ouying
the priests, and that all went well afterwards, or s.-nolhio- to the .^ame etleet .
Answer.-No ; I nev.r «aid that in n>y life ; neither th.e iVfendant nor at>y per.onover a^Bisted
us in obtainiiif,' timber limits.
Tho letters whieh I received Iron, St. Urbain a.,d elsewhere, as I have said above, came, ot.o
from .Mr. One>in.e (lauthier, and the others from 1 do not remember whom.
„. the election of Mr. (..attveau and Mr. Tretnblay, 1 was sure ';''^^/;;;^^;~;;XtL'Z
h. ,1,0 votes of St. Urbain only, in eonse,p.enee of the ,nsu , he had '"^ _«;''; ^J'; ';^'i, "
... ..I ,„i I .iilvi^i'd Mr ( hauveuu to witliUiaw, nol lo lesign nis
.ppoiutmenl ot n.u.ucpal conned ors, and ' -' "^ ' ^^.^^^ ,„„ ^ ,,;, ,csignation
VlOoscnatorsbip. that he was going to lose bis election , he UM me thai
ha.l h..en sent in ; this occurred at Mr. Cle.nonfs, at les l.J.oulements.
The Defendant was well known in the county, and ha,l rendered it services by giving, at my
ie(iuer,t, the money for the wharf at IJaic St. Paul.
Mr. Langevin with his party was very popular.
St l'rl,ain has always been the most Conservative place in the county and Mr Trembloy wottld
neve' have had that parish if he had not promised to bo Conservative ... b.s pnnc.ples, and to .ote
in an independent manner.
The two elections which M.-. Tremblay gained were due, that f ^ff' ;^ ;;;: i;;;];;;;:;;;:;;^ ^J
Mr. Xavier Ci.no., in the county gccally at that ti.ne; a.id that ol ]b<4, to the unpopuLu.ty
241(1 Mr. Chauveau, in St. Urbain, for the reaso.,s given above.
,r M,. T.emblav had done his duty as a member, the (lovernment would have paid eve.-y
„„„„,, : ,lu.t is what was done at the .i..ie when my friends we.-e in power.
r„p.,,.nhu.ity always results ,rom payn.ents being .nade i.. goods i..steadof in mo,.ey, who., it
tomes f.'om the (lover-ment, for public works.
neoule were obliged to receive in g.x.ds liom the t a,iu. , i n 1
Ivbiel, cau^ed the turning against M.-. T.'emblay at Baie St. 1 aul.
r • 1 I1K>- >^lr ITii.r'i Vllan in 1S7J, was to assist hispol.tical friend ^
1 think that the money '-^'^^^^'^f^X J^l£n:-21 1 say that under the oath which I have
in paying the legitimate oxpcn.ses of the., elections, ■-')
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Qiiostion,— In it luit true thni at Cl:lcoiitimi, wliore you roMdwl for a purl of the your, you have
tho rt'piUiitiori of not l)cinj,' too RCTiipiilimH about tlio triUli'i'
(^iioslion olijcclod to art being insulting.
Answorod, Hint lliat is not a legal objection.
()l)jo('tion Hot a>-ido.
Answoi'.— No; my word for mo has always boon a bond.
I swear that never to my knowledge bnvo \ ever said anything that was not jierfecMy true,
unless 1 have done ho in banter,
REEXAMINED.
2t:iO When Mr. Langovin gave, or eausod to be placed on the .estimates, a Hom for the wharf of Bale
St. Taul, ho was Minister of Publie Works.
It wa.s only after Jlr. Chauvoau had been in tho eounfy that 1 poreeived that St. Urbain was
against him; before leaving, I had asked him at Quchoe whether ho was sure of St. Urbain, that
without that i.arish he was risking his cleetion ; he answered mo that bo was informed by
Monsignor Racine, then cure of tho St. John suburb at Quebec, that tho parish of St. Urbain was,
like the other parishes, favorable to him.
This deposition being read to tho witness, ho persisteth therein, declaring that it contains the
truth, and bath signed. ^^^^^^ ^ pjj^^g_
Taken and sworn ^
boforo me, in open Court, at MaUaie, thiw >
31sl August, 187(5. )
A. B. ROUTHIER, J. S. C.
m I
Province of Quebec, 1
Saguouay. )
SUPIJKMK COURT.
District of
Tho petitioners admit that Michel Pilotto, Didier Gauthicr, Xavior Tremblay, David Tremblay^
and I'alemon (Jauthier, all of St. Irene, farmers, will prove tho same things as to tho sermon of tho
^'*^*^cuio of St. Ireiid on tho IGth January last, as Alexis (iiia-d, Klio Girard, and Jean Audeltc.
F. LANGi;LIE]i,
Aity. for Petitioners.
II. C. PKLLKTIKIl,
Atty. for Defaidant.
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lli>lrl(l ol Saniu'iiii). ) — ' '-^
DOMINION CONTllOVKUTKl) KLKCTIONS ACT, 1874.
FAcction of a Member lor the Hume of Commons, for the. Electoral District ol Charlevoix, Malhait,
'Mat Atiijuat, 187<i.
Present— Hon. A. V,. Uuutuier, J. S, C.
No, 14.
BllASSAKD, et. al., retitiouerB,
vs.
lion. 11. L Lanoevin, Defendant.
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
Jwui .\ii.lot, farmor, ngod :iO years, of tlio parisii (if St. Iivno, being duly sworn on the Holy
Kviingc'lists, <lc|iosulh and suilh : —
I know the parties in this cause; 1 am neiliar a relative, nor a eonneetion, nor a servant, nor
a (loMiestie ofaTiy of tliom ; I have no interest in tiie rcMiil of this suit.
I was at llio (Miureji of St. Irene on the Hilii January last; it was Icnown in the pttrish that tho
people were to li.s^dit on the Kith in (■on-^e(ineneo of the li-'ht on tho preceding Sunday.
After low mass, tho euro went up into the pulpit and sixike in relation to tho fight which had
taken place; he did' not speak of the election; he only said, •• if you cannot speak of election mat,
2 150 tors without lighting, you hud better not speak of them."
1 dill not remark all tliat the cure said in relation to tho disturbance, but 1 quite understood
that in all his explanations ho said nothing to make Iho jjeople heliovo that ho was rather on ono
siiie than on the other; I did not understand that he said that tho Defendant or Mr. Trembl.ay waa
lo l,e vole.1 i'nv; il ho .-aid it, 1 did not understand it; lie sai<l to vote for whom wo would, i)rovidod
we made no more disturbance such as had already occirrod; tho euro said, " 1 sh:ill see later if you
go wiih yo.,r priot, il 1 am listened to; I shall see that on Saturday;" he said that in relation to
the advice which he gave us as to the maintenance of the peace, and not because ol the election.
Jlo did not say that eomo desired to know his ojjinion ; tliat he was going to tell it to them
publicly ; at least 1 do not remember it; 1 did not pay much attention to the sermon, because itoniy
24(30 related to tlio disturbance, and not to the election.
I swear positively that tho cure did not say that he was of the Con.-^ervaiive i>arty, and that
tho electors ought to bo so also.
In relation to the quarrel, he said, "you c. nsidor^yoursolvos strong here, but go and sec at I,es
Kboulements, in the neighboring parishes, and you will perceive that you are not so strong ;" ho
nddod, " In all the largo parishes, there has been no disorder ; it is only here, in a small parish, ihut
there lias boon any."
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I (li<l not uii.lor.stftn.l ll.ul thoiiirii Hui.l tlmt ll.o |.i'i)|.lo (if Urn KboulJinuntt woro orilij{htcno(J,
lliat Ihoy wun^ ;,'oinn to follow llio vlcrny, ami that wooii^hl in (•oiiHi'ionco to «lo Iho Btttno.
Tlio romurkrt of tho curd did not <liiitif,'o u Min>,'lo votoin tlio piiriBli.
^470 On tlio Kill. I tlld notl.eurtlio(ur6-.pmk(..li>cBdio(.lchildm.,orofrotlonbolly(y<'nfr<';)ourri).
Tho curd tuivor Huid that wo oiifcht in con-cionco fn bo (;on«orvMtivi«i I l.uvo no knowlod^e
tluil llio ciir# npola. of II Imndage, or of the blind ; 1 nm Huro Uml l.« did not Hpeuk of thorn Ihut
dii) , lio may liiivo hpokon of tlioin, but I do not icnioinbcr it.
Ilo .lid not Hiiy that wo onirbt to bo of tbo parly of ll.o priests, and that wo woro bound in
oonHcionco to fi)llow what bo told us in rolaiion to olo.iiion mallors.
OllOHH-KXAMINRl).
It bad boon said durin- tbowook Ibat it was tbo l{owjrs that bad .•omtnoncod tbo disturbanoo ;
that was said in tbo pa.isb ; I uo not know wb.ib..' il was suid to ll.ocu.o . tl.o cuid spoko about
two, wlio bad foininoncod tbo disturbanoo, ujjainsl Ibo diHturbanco.
2480 " ''" ""^ ^" "^y knowUxlgo that in Ibiit Horn.on tbo euro spoko .d' tbo bishops' mandate.
Our cur6 was not considered as boin^ (.f any j.arty ; there was no moans of porceiviiiir f<.r whom
ho was ; ho did not mix himself up with it at all ; il was said that sovoral cur6s wcro against Mr.
Tremblay.
I wa-s for tbo Defendant, but I did not mix myself up with tbo oloclion raattor«.
It is not to my knowledge that tbo cur6 uttered the term " in eonsciom^o " in that Hormon.
This deposition being road to tbo witness, ho peraisteth therein, declaring that it contains tha
truth, and bath signed.
JEAN AUDET.
Taken and sworn
before me, in open Oourt, at Malbaio, this
aist August, 187(5.
A. R. RoiiTiiiER, J. S. C.
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I'rntliM'o of Qui'lioe, )
IM«ti'li't of Siitfiii'iiii|. )
SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTUOVFUTl'll) KLKCTIONS ACT, IH71.
Klerthmnf (I M -r for the llnmf of C< -ik ■ for thr Hliiinnit l^intrirt nf f'harlevoir, Malhuit,
.1 I Aiiijiint, IMTii.
Present— Hon A, H. Uuutiiiku, .T S 0,
No. 14.
UUASriAKD, el nt., rotitionera.
» • .V.
Hon. II. L. Lanorvin, Dofcndant
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF iHt DEFENDANT.
Pepin (!iif;iii>ri, of tlio !if{i' of (I'i yoiiiM, firopriL'tur, ol llio I'urisli of .M;dbaii , Ikmdj,' iliils voru
(III lliK Holy Kviini^elinlH, (li'posolli niid Miilli : —
UI'JO I know the [mrliuH in this cause ; I am tieitlioi- a ii'lutivc, nor a ('(ititieclton, nor n vuiil, nor
adoinciiticof any of them; 1 have no inlcroni in tiio rt'sull of tliis suit.
I waf at tlio mooting at Jo80|)li HouchanlV, urei of which tin' lattor up lu- in hi cv 'k'l
yostoi'day.
'I'ho Dcfonihmt havinj^ finlHlicd hi^< Hpcech, an el tor who was a litllo in hqiior kii tlia
liffondant, " Tlio pcopleon tlio other wiilo (Libofais si.y that if you aro oleetcii wo nhii ot no
nioticy from tlic dovornmiMit."
Tlio Defendant then replie<l, that aH ho wan in oppo^ lion'ho promiMod nothinji;, that he pr ^isod
to defend our intcrentH, that that wiis ail lie could pron\i
lie ilid iiol promise money 80 soon as tliu (iovernnui ', had fallen; no mention wiw m* ol
2.")()0 nioiiej , except hy the individual who questioned him,
Mr. Lan^eviii made no promiso of money to any person whatovor, and lid n it say that so i
(IS the (los-crnment had fallen wo should have money.
1 live a mile from Joseph Hoiichanl ; 1 know Serajihin Ijajoie, a witness hoard in this cuii
I liavo known him for about 20 years.
In pithlic it is said that ho is a man without character, nd a ^reat many even say that thoy
would not believe liim under oath, and I, myself, would not b^ ovo him.
CROSS-EXAMrVKl).
The Defendant did not say at .Joseph Houchard's that w effort must bo made to upset tlio
Government, but ho Baid that it mi^^'ht happen to fall, porha; in throo months, perhaps in six
2.510 months ; I do not know when ; he did not speak of what would dono after tlio Government should
have fallen.
2!:
Lnioic is in tl.o habit of taking i" F"!''^' '" «''« ''■^^'"inKi''* ^viiich i.o makes of horses, but it w
not .i.oken of, b.H'uu>o it is so mu.l. tbc worse for those who hav,.' those dealings with him.
1 do not believe Imn under oath, because he is said to have rifled a pe.'son, an<l beeauso I saw
hi,n -ive evidence it. court, which was not corre^'t ; I <U not rcnie.nher in whit cusn >t was, nor
whalwas in nueslion ; ho many thin,;,' are said about him, that it was that that cause.l mo to say hat
his evidence in court was not correct, and it was not bocuiLse 1 was personally aware ol the tals.ty
(if what he swore.
IlE-KXAMINEO.
2520 Kvorybody in Court .aid that Seraphin Lajoie ha.l not told the truth in the cause in question,
and witnesses were brou-lit, who swore that he was not to bo believed under oath.
This deposition bein- read to the witness, he ,,er.MsleLl. therein, declarin- that it contuins the
truth, and that lie cannot n\gn.
Taken and sworn ^
before mo, in open Court, at Malbaic, this ^
31st August, 1876. )
A. B. lioUTlIIEH, J. S. C.
Pr.,T..K.Bo. «fn<"'.'«,» SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
FM,on of a Member 'or the lloxtse of Commons, for the Elertoral District of Charlevoix, Malbaie.
the Ut day ot September, 1870.
Present— The Hon. A. B. lloUTHiER, J. S. C.
No. 14.
BRASSARD, et. al., Petitioners,
vs.
Hon. H. L. Lanqevin, Defendant.
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
Dennis nauthior, aged thirty-nine years, merchant, of the parish of St. Fiddle, being duly
sworn on the Holy Evangelists, dep^setb and saitb :—
I know the parties in this cause; 1 am neither a relative, nor a connection, nor a servant, nor
u domestic of any of thorn ; I have no interest whatever in the result of this trial.
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I kmw dhni'lo^ noiiclinnl, of St. Sitncon, vvitnovis cxvunincil in tb's cause; I saw hiin on tti"
21-t 111 ,l,iniiai-v, at St. Simoon, alioiil noon, at my lioii^^c, at the establishment at !v,vi6ro Xoii-c, wlicro
■^:.:',i) .Mr. Klic MailiouN, my foreman, iive.s; there were present H. C, Peliclior, atto/ney for the Defend-
ant, Hon. T. I'oliilailio, I'llio Maiilou.K, and AJolpho Dufour, farmer, of Mulbaio.
Mr. lionciiard enlorod the house, and havinif iieard tiiat lie wa.s workintj with lis, I made bin
ciilor my lu'dromn ; there I was alone with him ; I told him that I had been informed that be win
Wfirkim; with us for Mr. Langevin ; he answered mo that he was not going to vote; 1 asked him,
why, and be tlid not tell me; [ understood that it was on account of bin father, who was sick
thereuiioii 1 answeied him, "You ai'C free to vote as you will, for, with the ballot, by not tellins;
'• anybody, it will not bo known foi- whom you have voted ; " he aske<l mo how things wv.ru goint; ;
1 understood liiin to mean who was going to win ; 1 .said to him, J thought that Mr. Langevin \vun
going to win, with at least two hundred votes ol a majority; ho answered me, thereupon, that ho
2r)litc,)iil(| not make out who was telling the truth, for a man had (H)mo down who said that Mr. 'I'rom
bla}" was going to win, with a majority of at least live hundred votes; I asked him who had >ai(l
that ; he said that it was Eloi Trcmblay ; 1 said to him that bo would see on the 23rd which of iho
two would be mistaken, s])eaking of myself and J'Jloi Trembhiy; bis last words were that, if ho
voted, be would vote tor Mr. Langevin, for be told mo that be did not like Mv. Trcmblay, without
telling me why ; this is all tbo conversation whi(di took place between him and me : it is the only
time during the election that I s])o!<(> to Charles Bouchard.
1 swear that then lie did not tell me that if be voted he would vote for Mr. Tremblay.
1 swear that 1 <lid not then say to Cbai-les I5ouchard that if he voted for Mr. Tremblay bo
would bear from me on tbo 24th of January; I am quite jKisitivo that I did not say that to Charles
i;."),")ii liouchaid, nor to others during tho election ; when 1 thus sjioko to Charles liouchard, I had learned
(Vdin oibcrs ib,-it he was hauling cord-wood for our establi>hmcnt; uiy foreman, Hlie Mailloux, had
not told it to me, at least 1 do not remember it; I ba<l seen him working foi- us on that day; 1 had
noi asked him to come to tbo house; it was by chance I met him there.
I did not say anything to him to make him understand that if he voted for Mr. Tremblay bo
would lose his emi)loyment; for more, if I had known that he wa.s for Mr. Tremblay, and that bo
would have been unwilling to vote for him (.Mr. Tremblay) on account of me, I would sooner liav^
i.i-inissod him on that account; 1 did not speak to him about accounts, nor of what ho owed me; i
Icii him perfectly free, ami tho proof is that 1 had then fiur camps in my shanties; more than halt
the men were oppo.sod to me, and 1 would not speak to them about it.
2")iii) Some one havitig a-sked mo to go to the camps and force tho men to vote, I answered that I
Would do nothing of tho kind; that it mattered little what party ray men belonged to, provided
tiiev did their duty in the shanty ; the bedroom I have spoken of ia beside the entrance tiall.
Cha; les Bouchard did not say to mo : " If 1 vote for Mr. TrombKay you will not know it, any-
how ; ' aiid I did not say to him, '• Yes, I shall know it."
I'linilien IJoucluvrd, father of Charles Bouchard, was very ill; on tho day before tho voting ho
was a little better; ho might, porliaps, iiavo been able to go out, but ho could not have gone far;
h(! had been ill for two or tlirco weeks, perhaps more.
I know Thomas Tremblay, of St. Fidele, farmer, a witness examined by the potitioncr.s in tlus
cause ; tie is my cousin.
2570 ' remember having spoken to him about tho election onco on my verandah ; I do not know if
it was he who began to speak of it or I ; it was perhaps about three or four days before tho voting
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Mr. C.U.Mnl was o.,o of Mr. TrcmMayV sui.p..rtors, and Thomnn Trcmbh.y knew ,t.
V, t. • 1 .,,1 tr.Ul me sevci. or eiiil.t davs hcioro the voting, tliat I could take produce f.un>
,,M.1-lH.„..s;i^.en , .y ..,a^;> '-J ;- ;^^^ understand that if he d,d
understand that himself, hut it was not my intention.
I ■ .■ c, i.",,i,,i,. 1 i.'L.I •! iioi-tion of the pastoral letter ol
thehishois, and explained ctiuin <iii„ , knowini; thinfTH aH ho kne«
,,„„ ;,'r,T;;;:,:,:;;;::i r::v;r,;,.'ert;i,,. >,o ..„. ^. >-. « ...... ...»,,. „...-., . . "..-.--
t„ attend the Liberals, biek or d> mg.
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• • 1 ,.,,,,.v il, 'it the,- h.'i.i no liuHinessine.l.lhn- m politics,
ou.rht to remain m the vesti\ , il..ii t'lcj
party.
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effect 1 think I should have been able to notice .t.
, .. < in.,. ,t m Kidcle was, I believe, the Uauthier party; 1
,,,,,,„,,;ts":r:tr;;;:r"r.:»..v .......a ,.».,». „o. ....-..,.,.„.
greater number.
CKOSSEXAMINKD.
, , ,• f i«71 Mr Tremblav hn.l a majority of 17 or 18 at St. Fidelo; I
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,.f M,.. TremM.y, u,.,l uh u thoroughly ho.u.t ,„un, h,n h. h.vl n.. party und co.um.n.led no influ.-.o
■It SI. Kulele.
I WW a supporter of tho DofondM.t iu the election in «iucHtion, u.kI I Hpoko in hi. f'^^'"' J-'=" ''
tin^c I h I o lion to npenU ot tho election ; people of hoth par.ie. used to co.o to -y/^"- ' ^^
iT K t o out of my house to eolicit the vote« of the electors, hut I think I .nust have askc u.-o
„,,„ 'u L^rele I n.y house wl they were in t.vor of; I «eeon,panied ^^'^f^^^^^^,
Kimeon, where ho was «oin, to n.eet Mr. 'f ren>l,lay ; I was in the same vehjcle wUi> the iXlcndant .
it was his vehicle, and it was I who ha<l asked hin, to take mo in Ins vehicle.
,,,„, ,,,.,„ uM me that Mr. n...hard was lor Mr. T'-;';='y I ;'" not rememher it ; .
,,nnot say who had told n.e that Bouchard was working' w,th the Defendant.
, cannot name any of those who told me I ou.ht t,. I.rce n^ men ^^ --;•;;;;; :;:;::;t;vl
only ren.emher that it was people from St. Simeon ; they said to mc, .omc >
iire'a"-ainst j-ou, you ou.i,'ht to dischar{,'e lliom.
The mil, which I hold at Eiviare Noire is run ly me, ''-;;';;;- ';:;,:;;;^r r^trC""
,, U ,. .... of the limits where I ,et my lo.s; U . U.y ^;^^^^-^^Zil.y owed, only
,-,. ,..p„n of the sermon of the Kevd. Mr. Tremhlay, made ^ ^^ ^:;;;;^%;^J^::^tZ
,„Mr.Tre:nMay i-i'-^H^ havin. heen read to the w,t.e.. w.U.^^^^ ^^^^^^^ ^^^
M.hs.ance of what he sa,d ; .he w.ness d J^^^^;;;;l^ ^^,,,, ^,,,, ,,,^,,^ so:n. ^nn^
sermon, hut if it wore another person 1 should not bcllc^L understood iho
would be comitting a sin in voting for such a part} .
The cure did not perhaps pronounce -he words •■ ^;;--;;;;;;;!^:.;7\,rf:tT'^:n^d -a
„„.lerstood as I did that ho meant to speaKof the Liberal party, fo. my pa.t tKou„.
f,u' the Liber.al party without sinning. . _
The euro said that ■' as he understood the pastoral letter that letter condemne-l a party, and
l,v that party I un.lerstood that the Liberal party was meant.
' C,uestion.-Isit not true that the clear sense of U.e -f;:^;;^-^^^^^:'^^
.tan.ling H'.e rasUu'al letter as he undersloo.l it hnuself, voted tor the L.bcial p.uiy
•^<ir,o' "' ^,..wer.-I could have voted without commi.ling a sin, for T have not his knowledge ; I do not
know what words ho quoted from the letter, he did not say.
Question.— Did you understand what the cuic said ?
Answer.-! understood that the cure, knowing the letter as he knows it, if ho voted against
ilK.t letter, would himself consider he was comnutiing a sin-
Quostion,-l)id you, yes or no, understand the letter as the cure understood it?
Answer.-No, for I am not as well able to uu.letstand what there is it. the letter as he.
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^ A -i^^iff^' > '< V'i*?t^-i^^^^s^^!!^^^
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I iisimlly undorntand the oxpliinotions jjivcn l.y tho curd.
Quc8li()i>.— I>id you or did yoii not undorstuml on lluil, oocusio!! tho <'ur<i'H r.crmon ?
Annwor. — Yes.
Mr. Tromlilay «'"« t''" candidate <if tiio I.il.orai party in that election; il was iin..wn to
I'viM') lioily.
Many wiid in liio parif.ii tlmt llie euro was nj^ainsl Mr. Tromblay.
(incslion.-it wus also said, ^vas it nut, or it was understood tlmt all the clergy, or tho groato^
,,art c.r tho c'lur^;y, were against Jlr. Trenihluy ?
Objected to by the Defendant as t,ndi,uj to prove a jeneral system of undue clerical influence.
Objection dismissed.
The Defendant takes exception to the ruliwj.
Ans\ver.-Yes, 1 tl.uu-ht so, and I think that those who tools an interest in the election were
of the same opinion with mc.
.;«:„ I IhinU that Tanis Mrassard, of wh,.m I spoke above, had in the previous election voted for Mr.
TrL'tiililay.
(iuestion.-fs it not true tlmt if your eurc were t<. say to you that a thin;,' is forbidden under
piiin of sin, you would believe you were eommilting a sin in doing it?
Answer. — Yes.
According t(, my belief, a man who died in a state ot sin eould not «<> to heaven, if it were .-»
n.ortal sin, but he could go there if it were a venial sin ; I think that one can go to heaven .n a
state of venial sin, but by pa-sin^^ ihrouuh I'.n-atory; Tunis Urassard, ol whom I have lately
spoken, is the same individual with Slani^las Brassard, a witness o.xanuned >n th.s cause.
It was Thoma>i Tromblay who told mo that he had voted for Mr. Tremblay.
RE-EX.VMINKl).
Stanislas Hrassard told mc that he had voted for .Mr. Gauthier in 1875; 1 do not remember that
the cure gave the rea.s.,ns why it would be a sin for him to vote for one party, he merely sa.d
k„„wing what 1 know from the pastoral letter of »he Bi>hops, I should sin if I voted lor such a
'"" ^ CUOSS-F.XAMINED.
At the election in 1875 all the supporters of Mr. Tromblay in tho lower part of the county
vote,l for Mr. tiauthier; I mean the supporters he had in the election against Mr. Chauveau.
This deposition having been rea ' to tho witness, he persists therein, declaring that it contains
the truth, and hath signed.
DENIS CrAUTIIIER.
Taken and sworn
before me, in open Court, at Malbaie
1st September, 1870.
2(180
, this [
A. B. RouTiiiKR, .T. S. (^
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I'nuliict' of <|ii(lu'c, )
IMvM of SiiKUfiiii). J
SUPERIOR CO RT.
DOMINION CONTUOVKHTKI) Kl.KCTlONS AC. 1
tin l.sr iliilj ul Sriilclliliir. I"<.li.
PresiMit— Thi- Moii. A. 15. ItoUTinKU. .T. H. C
No. 14.
lIUASSAlil), el lit., IVtitionors.
V.S',
11(111. II. L. LaN(»evin, Dt'foiidaiit.
EVIDENCE Of\l BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
2.;:)0 l.-,.anQoi. Savard, furmor, aKod:V.) yours, of tho I'arisl. ..f St. Ililurio.., boinK duly Bwora on tho
IIdIv l'Auiij.;ulisl.H, doiiowotli ami ^ailli :—
1 law.w the ,u,..ic. to this cu,... ; I a,n nci.h.r a .vlalivo, nor a .onnoKi,.,,, '"'---r;!' "'" t;"
,M...ll.. ofanv of !>.•.„ ; I l.avo no intcr.sl whatovor in tho rosull of tl.M nal ; 1 an. the Mayor of St
„ V alltho elector. ..ftl.a, ,arUh ; 1 l.-o.v ..ulo. Trcn>l. .y a w,tno.s oxannno, u.
L . U.M i a tVnv ,lavs attor New Year's day ho told mo that he was „» avor ot, and seemed to b.
l!;Lvor !a[ the Defendant ; Mr. T.vn.bh.Vs i-ar.y at St. Ililarion be.an to brouU-up altor tho cle.liou
III' Mr. (ialllliier.
The ]iait;ert were formed from the he!,'inning of Jat.uary last.
, attended tho meetin, at Ilypp.li-o Tren.hlay's, held at St_. Ililarion by tin. |'^-;;-;;^;;;;;;"«
liT'lO ,|,e electior, ; 1 there .net Jules Tron-.blay, the witness exam.ned >n tins eauso by tho Pol.t.ono.s.
I ^.,. tlKM-o before him and I lett after him, and durin;;- the meelin,:; 1 was always ..ear h,m
^\M,ile Mr. l,at,^evin npoko, no ,,erson jnU a ^ue.Uon to hin,. or i,Uerr,M>ted him to my know-
U„|,... Jules Trombiav did not speak to him durin, his speeeh; alter Mr. I.u,,^ev,n.s speech wa
l-'iMu'd the people left at onco. I.nd Jules Trend.lay ,dso, and I an. «uro that he dul notspeak to tho
Defendant.
1 ,.Mnaiued lon.a.r, for I live nei^M.bour to iryppolilo Tromblay. and I am not awaro that any por^
.on spoke to .ho noL.dant ai'ter the n.eetin, ; I and (h.^oire Trem lay, '.^^ -;-;-;;:;-;^
this e'auso, spoko to tho Defendant after the n.ee.i,,, ; every one had lett ; " / ^ ^ "mbl. , ,„
onlinarv tone of voice, had spoken ,o the Defendant durin, tho mee.jn,, and ' ;' ^ ^ /^ ^ ^^^^
2710 " if it ^ere known that the .der^y were in favor of him, .t would do bun ,ood, ,^' > " > ^
,lant had answered him, " that the thmg would be e.xplaine.l rnoro clearly soon ; I tlunk 1 .should
have heard it.
1 witnessed all th.'vt took plaeo at the mooting.
The PeUUonu , admit that the witness wilt .jive the same evidence as Pierre Tremblay and Ant..ae
M
p^
K'irt
ran
1«5
nourh.,r<l a, to thr ,erm,m of the ChH of ii, IIILmm. -.n-/ .,U. ,u to the effect, of the «,../ ^erm.n. in ,h*
I'lirixh of St. Ililiirinn.
I .,„.noi HW..Mr ll.a. ulU,r the nu.o.,.,« uo por-on «.i,l a w-pI k, .l.c Dofo-Hlu.,., -y.-n to winl.
iH.n uo,Ki ovo..in«, I. r.H to election inutterH, I .w..r thai .... v^'V.m ...i.l ....>.. ...« U, I,,-...
„,„ S,.,„., ,......oM. n.ay l.avo hik.Uo.. t.. tl.o M.u^avr l.do.v -r ,.!.. r .l.^ -...•oln.K ; l-.u I .•u......t n.ty
wliai ihi'S' miiy l.rivu miitl t<. him.
I .ot u m.hHo..t,io., to ..oman,.t i1.,h ....nn.w oo U.. .V.rlh Hhorc It.il.v:.,- M, . (),..^.imo
, i,..,l.io.- ha I Kiv... I..0 a r. ..o.n.,.....h.li„„ lo M.' M.CIroovy, lh« ......tm-.tor; hai i ..ml .......■.•a..on to
-how it ill oi-.liT to ohtuii. my coiiti'iut.
I „..,.t to Mr. M.'<i.vcvv. utul, an.T having- ,.,.. .,,.• o|Va.-o„,,h. or(i„,..s, h.. u'.m, ...o ..iiuio j<.b
,.i,„ , a <i M oifl ha,lh;...naH,.,,,,o,.u...... Mr. l,Hn,.vi,. i,. .I,.' h... .U.t.ou, ..o.- . ..l 1 M-oak
;;: ,1;;:;' rl ■ havi... ...o,. a .., -...■ . -i... .......a,., ; i .hinu m. ^^;< --y j-'^' «•- -^-
b.,.lyjoh. lii<o <h.U ho K".."'"C ,1 l.ml ....I tl.o 1..-UO a wa, wo,.h to,- the u<..i< I .l.'l.
M,. ()„6Himo .iauthio.- tohl uu. on .vt..r,u..,,' iV U.. ..^^ tha. iho No. ih Si.o.o llailway
.7ia wa. ;,. I .uilt ; h..l ho .lid no, Hp.aU of .1.- -o......... -hat ,ai,',i ho oht..„.cd ... .......o,i..on..,
.U .; ,...iUnn..;on.ploy„u...t that it ,ni«i.r .'...•-.ish; ho o,.iy .aid that ,. ...,,.h. «,vo wo. o
' ;;;,. ,,', ,,,...„ u..d olLvho... •. ..oithor i,. thi. i..s.a„..., ,.or on the o,.ly ...v...s,o„ « !...,. 1 npokc
:„ hi.., d,..-i,.K' tl'o ohTtio,,, did ho .poaU to .no aho„t „,y h.oU.or Oo.no hava,-d,
.r),i.doposi.ionh..i,.Krc.vdt« iho witness, ho por«ists U.o,-oin, .io.la,v. that it e..„ta,„« iho
truth, and haih sigiiod. FUANCOlS SAVAUD.
Taken and Hworn
heforo mo, in open (V>m-t, at Malbaic,
l«t Sopt., 1870.
A. n. HoiiTiiiKa, J. S. C.
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MgiljMff ■llrillMlWriilii«fBipin''Wt '-r'jlr'il'"fitT t'l"'-
sss
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WSHM
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i.r.,h,..«M!,.cb....,) TTsT THE SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTIIOVEIITMD ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
Hh'ction of a Member lor the House of Commovs, for the Kkctnral District of Charlevoix, Malbaie,
the 1st dayof 8qi1anbn\ 1H70.
No. 14.
Present— The Hon. A. B. EouTiiiER, J. S. C.
BRASSARD, et. al., Petitioners,
vs.
Hon. H. L, Langevin, Defendant.
* '«',
.■i.
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
Louis Tremblay, farmer, aged forty-t w. years, ol the parish of St. Ilihii-ion, being duly swort.
(Ill tiio Holy Kvangclists, deposetli ami saitli : —
1 i<.iow the partieH to this cause; 1 am r.citlier a relative, nor a connection, nor servant, nor
domestic of any of (hem ; 1 have no interest whatever in the result of tliis trial.
274(1 The Pefitionrrs admit tluit this witness will prove the same thiny as Pierre Tremblay ami Antoine
llouehnrd in relation to the sermons of the care of St. Jfilarion, and in relation to their etJects.
I am well acquainted with the electors of St. llilarion ; it is a small parish.
It was in order to follow the Cauthier party that the jieoplo voted lor the Defendant to follow
their (]iiiiion.
At the he-inninir of the election, about the 8th or lOlh, up to the Stii of January last, tho
parties were fi)i'nied, and these jiarlies did not break \ip afterwards.
Meibre the 0th of January, before the KUb, before the sermons of the cures, tho supporters of
the Dofendahl were laiown at St. llilarion.
I do not think- that the Gauthicr jwrty has been broken up at St, llilarion since the election
2750 of 1875.
Mr.Tremblay's i)arty at St. llilarion broke up last year, on accoui>t of the electoral list; tho
revision of which caused iiim to lose from forty to fbrty-Hvo votes, which had been cast for him ;
tho voting at the last election took place on that last electoral list.
[V wi- »rwt^ri(f^«rrni
— tytoaa«fcMtftM«B.*,i.«M^WtegiaaM.. a,., .i:^ 'q^^^m.hA J(i^k3^'
i.'--rTr!T":"T-nf^?rs>sr='r^"'
i
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2760 ''
2770
1 iiMi II iniiMK'ilwl -oancillor, uiwl 1 NNa> pnu"
ClUlSS-KXAMINKK.
. , • . ,1... olerlion a.-.l UMoro, that «.u- c-nre belon«..l t.. Ilu, ToLsor-
,:';;t^ r;;t.::r;::;'p;;u::;;::.»... ."»» — »-' -»• -
lolUo Hill ..r lOlli. ,. , ., ,;™.
,„,.,_WU,ao,o.t..n,..Ue otn.es., .0.U . „ei,„ that ..n w... the .a.Uo«
A..we,-.-Bocauso tho V^^^^-^^^^^f^^^^L^ son.iment/a. to the election.
tl,e(brotUe.cr,nonortho9lh; Ihu.l spoken to tho
them bcf..ro the 8th or 10th ; oium-l
1 k.unv all the .uppofters of the Defe-vlan
„.eate.- paH ui them. ^^, ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^ .^ ^,^^^^^.„^ ,,,
ThiH deposition being read to the wUne.s, he pu. ..
2770 truth, and hath Mgnod.
Taken and sworn )
before me, i.. <.pen Court, "t Malbaie, tins >
iHt yeptember, l»7o. J
A. 15. UouTiiiKtt, J. S.C.
LOUIS TRHMBIiAY.
MI^^.'T:--..
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I'rovinoc of (I....I.O,., ) T Ts^ THE SUPERIOR COURT.
Ili^lriet of SiigiKMiuy. S
DOMINION CONTllOVEllTKD ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
,,erUon of a Me.Ur for tke Hon.: of Conunons, ^ tl. EUr^^a District of CUarlevoi.c, MaWaie.
''" •' ilie \)it diiy 01 September, Ib.t..
No, 14.
Present— The Hon. A. B. RoUTUlER, J. S. C.
BRASSARD, tt at., Petitioners.
vs.
Hon. II. L. Langevin, Defendant.
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
I,„,„„.|e„u Bouohard, n.en.h.nt. of .l.e imri.h ol' 1. Mall.aio, boin,^ duly Mvoru o,. ll.e Holy
KvaiiKcli-<tH, deiioHCtli and saith :—
1 ,<,.„w .1.0 parties to tl.i« causo ; I am >u.iU,or a rcLaivo, nor a .oa.o.tiou, nor .orvunt, nor
aomcMlc or a.,y l-f .horn ; I have no interes, wUa.ev.r in ,1,0 rosull ol Uw. U>al.
, ,,„„„,„, ,!,o n.oolinghold by the Dol^ndant, at .roscpb B-uolrvrd's daring the olooUon.
I.Wndr. Ln„n.,c having said to Mr. Langovin, '-The Ronge. say that it svc elect you wo
. , ,. nonev " Mr I-:>n.^evin answered, " You nu..l not e.xpoct to get tnoney d you
: : ; r t . a r i.,.' J;., tL .^.vomn^en., and all those who are oleeted in oppo^t.on to
liavo lasted ion minutes.
1 Knosv Seraphin Lajoie, of.Malbaie, farmer, a witness exandned in thiseauso.
His general reputation i. very bud, and from what I have heard said of hin, .nd from what I
l.iHv.v my,-eli; I would not beliovo him under ..alh.
nurinLrthocleetion Seraphin Lajoie came to my house sever..l times; onco at the l.eginnin,^
the candidature of Mr. .Toseph Kane was tlien in nuostion.
On the 15th of .[anuarv the dav of the nomination, Seraphin Lajoie was at my store, in which
UK.nf:e.o fnml rll^n to iwcnty persons ; he ti>en told us .hat he was tor the Defendant, he spoUo
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9!)
HcnoiHly.aiiil I, iw I knew liim, mUi lo liini, iliat, lio uamo t^. llio stoi'o in iv spy, that ho hmi bolter
,r,)iiwiiy; lio then called (i il to witnos.* that ho was lor t ho DofouUant, and that ho would vote
Car him, and oven added that ho was ready to HWear on the(iosi)ol, that iio was in fiivor of the
2801) iJcfendant.
S^raj.hin Lajoio is a man who is in the hahit in oloelions of -oing to both cuniiw, in order to
hpy, hut ho has always voted for Mr. Tremblay.
CUOSS-KXAMINKI).
I cannot say whether ! would or would not, h.lieve Sir .John M.-icDonald under oath ; I know
neither his liice, nor his person, nor hisropulalion •. I do not believe under oath hi.n who culls Ctoa to
witness uselessly when he is not under oath.
This deposition being read to tho witness, he persists Iher.iii, and deelares that it contains tha
truth, an<l hath signe.l. IJAllTIIKLBMI HOUCIIAllD.
Taken and sworn
before me, in open Court, at Malbaie, this
1st September, 187ti.
A. B. llouTiiiEii, J. S. C.
i.,.,in„»i <|....>,.e,, TTST THE SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
FUrtJon of a Member lor the Home of Commons, for the Electoral District of Charlevoix, Malbaie,
the \st (lay of September, lft7(J.
Present— The Hon. A. B. Routiiiek, J. S. C.
No. 14.
BRASSARD, el. al., Petitioners,
vs.
Hon. H. L. Langevin, Defendant.
2810
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
Antoino Gauthior, aged 3(5 years, carpenter, of the parish of St.^ Ircnee, being duly sworn on
tho Holy Evangelists, deposeth and saith : —
I know the parties in this cause ; I am neither a relative, nor a connection nor a servant, nor a
domestic of any of them ; 1 huvo no interest whatever in tlie result of this trial.
28;
100
m Prtltionrrs o,lnut that tkk u.lM.s .ill ,m-c tl. .une ,l,o.j as Al.xis (Urard, EUe Girard and ^
Jem Awktti-as to t he sermons './ tlicCuriof St. Iveni,:.
In vim of mrhadmmion, Ikfemlont (Mir.s Iw has no question tn,,utto the witness.
hvUtre inc
Taken niid Hvvorn ]
, ino|H-ti Cotirl, at Miillaio, tins ^
•A. B. IlotTlllEB J. S. C.
IToyinoo «r Qurhor, ) 11^1 THE SUPERIOR COURT
DOMINION CONTROVEllTED ELE(JTI()NS ACT, 1874
riertion ,/ a .MaaUr for the House of Conunous, for the ElcetonU Dcstrcct of Hu^rtroou, MalUa...
' the Ut d<uj ot S'-iitcmhtr, 1^(0.
Present— The Hon. A. B. Routhier, J. S. C.
No. 14.
BRASSAIID, et at., Tetitioners.
vs.
lion. II. L. L.\NGEVIN, Defendant.
EVIDEtJCH Oh' BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
.losei.h Tre,nM :.y, mill..', n;.o,l :;1 voar., o, the i.ansh of l.a JIalbaio, beiug duly sworn on tho
]\o\y l''.v:ui,L;clists, (ie]iO!-elli and ^aiill:—
I k„ow llu. panic, in this .anso; I a,n nether a rolalivo, nor a connection nor a Horvant, nor
a domestic ol- any <,f them ; I have no inloresl wl>atevcr in the re.ultof tins tnal.
2820 I live in tl,e neighborhood of .To>oph 15ouchanlV, where a meelit.g wan held by tho Defendant,
at wliicli I was i)re>ent, during tlic ia^t election.
The Defendant di.l not, to my kuowlclge promise money if the (lovernment. should fall, nor
K.y that he could not promise ^ny bL-loro tho fall of the Governn.ont ; if he saui so I do not rcmom-
bcr it.
1 knew that ho .aid afterwards that the (!overn>nent coul<l not stand long, booauso it usw
rgainst the clergy ; I am sure of ihal according to my opinion,
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■PIk. I'otiti. nors doclaro llml (Ley luivo no .•r..H,..quoHlioim to put.
This.loi,o.ition boin«roal.,otU. wilno.H.l.o por.i^t. tl.orom, .loHur.. tl.utit oonums tho tr...l..
liii.l lialli Hi^;m'«l.
Tiikon iiml wworii
boforti inc, ill open Court, ul Miilbaio,
thiN Int iltvyol" Scptonilwr, ) '•>
JOSKl'lI THKMMLAY.
A. H Uoi TiiiKK, J. s. r.
i.n„im,.«i(j..oi.o.-. » T]sj THE SUPERIOR COURT.
IHstrlel ol Saifm-iittj. J
DOMINION CONTUOVEllTKU ELECTIONS ACf, 1874.
Present— '1 ho llou. A. D. IloUTHlEU, J. S. 0.
BRASSARD, et. al., Pelitioiiors,
vs.
lion. 11. L. Lanoevin, Defendant.
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFEmNT.
JoKny Lapointc, a,o,l i^.r.y yoa,-s, n.-ner, of the p.ri.h of la Malbaio, l.eing duly sworn on tho
Holy Hvaiigelifts, cleposelh and sailh :—
I ,„ow the parties in this cause ; I a. noither a relative^ nor ---tU. nor a servant, nor
a domestic of any of them ; I have no interest whatever .n the rc.ult of th.s tn.U.
, ... present at a meeting held by the Defendant at Jo.scph Bouehard's, at Malbaio, during
the last election.
hi^ ^peocli l!ie !>efendnnt <lid not speak of money.
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everywhere, that iho oWm g> " ^^^^^^.^„^ ,,,,, .leaaro. th.u
This .lep<.Uion bein« read to tb v.tne««. P ^^^^^^^ ^apoINTE.
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llistrk't of Saguciiay. J
SUPERIOR COURT
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874
, fnr the EU'cioral District of Charlevoix, Malbai;
Election of a Member for ike House of 00,^..^^^^^^ /-,,'
Present-The Hon. A. V>. RoUTHlEB, J. S. C.
BlUSSARD, et at., Petitioners.
No. 14.
vs.
Hon. H. L. Lanoevin, Defendant.
evlDEUCE on BEHALF OF THE DEFEnom.
"'■"""' """ °' ' .„„„,„..„e „„,o„U». a. J»o,... B„ach.rd'.Uou.c,»t Mul.,.,c,
I wUH present at tho meeliii.ii; hc\d l)\ uio I'tiu
aunng U.0 la.t election. ^^_^^ ^^.^^^ ^ .^^^ ^^.^ ^^^^ ^^, ^,^„^^ ,,
I.can.lrc Lapointo made liini lake noUce that .t
Scttin, money for public work. _ ^ ^^^^ ^^_^ ^^^^^. ^_^ ^^..^ ^^ ^^^^_
M,.. Lun,cvin answered 1-V'"\1"m I^e^l Ho nor;en.oml.r tl.ut he pronu.ed auy-
288^, throw the (lovernmont; it wan thu. that 1 undo, to,
thing, once the Government had tullcn.
raoSS-EXAMINED.
, , .• K„t I hivo hoard stiv that tho Defendant had the
Obioctod to by the defendant.
Taken and Sworn
before me, in open Couri, this
2nd September, 187C.
A. B. ItouTiiiEtt, J. S. 0.
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rrovlnoc of Quebec, > SUPERIOR COURT.
Uistrk-t of Suguciiay. )
DJMINION CONTllOVHiRTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
. /-, ,-,^ fiw Fhrtoral District of Charlevoix, Malbiue,
Etect^n of a M.n,.r for the. House -^ g;~ X! 18^!
Preseut-'l he Hon. A. B. Routuieb, J. S. C.
2890
BRASSARD et al., Petitioners,
vs.
Hon. H, L. Lanoevin, Defendant.
EVIDEI\lCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
VinoC. T.-en..ay, ..cd .7 .c. ....c, o, U,e pa,.... -f Haio St. I>au,, l.i.., duly swor.
anon the Holy Kvan-elists, deposeth and .aitl. :-
. -..« n,„ , «. .. ,.- «s I » --i::'-;;;:.::,;;::;r'2"" " "°"""' "'"
n domestic o
'™r::r;,»: ;.;»;::.;;.-«-'.-"''"''--•■'' ■•^"'■'" '"»■
8!?
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in mv pos^iossioii. tr u f a
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Objoctca to by tho pelitionor., because the .u.tes had hcer, proparcl hy the cure, an i"tereHtc,l
,...,.,v in a liti.'afh.n, . i' which there was the., a .,ue..lia,. on li>o ^ai,Joct ot the sennon itself, .1 a
^v:,;^hl wi.nes; ...cw l. n.i,ht ho eailed a. a witness on the sui,iect '^^^^^^^
.,,,on, cousequently, his min,l was no, in ,ha, in,,Kirtiui s.a.o winch al.no can K'.ve .ome feuarautoe
oC liio corroclnoss of tlio notoH.
Ohjoction rcset-vctl for hearing' on (he merits.
Answer. --In answer to this ,iuostion, > prolucc those notes, Deiculanfs Exhibit No. 2.
When 1 took these notes I .IKl not Unow that I shouKl be a witness for tho Cur^ SiroiB before
'il»:i<»tl,e Archbishop, nor for tlie Dofen.lant in this cuii-e.
A. 'P. l».fbur, blacksmith, wh- has si,,.e,l this an.ly^is. is the same as he wh<. has been heard
ill this eaiiso.
The Petitioners admit that the signatures allUeil to the s.i.l exhiiiit are those that Ijavo been
acknowlea,^^e.l before llyppolite Simanl, Justic of the iVace, o.i the V^.U o( l.ebru...>, 1876.
The euro did not say that it was a case of conscience to vote for .Mr. Tren.blay or his political
frionds.
The notes Hxhibit No. 2, of the Defendant, which I produce, ^^ivc the complete sen«o of the
c,u..v! t:"; if the expre^ions are not nuito the same, at l..t the sense .s completely g.von
ill them.
tm> [All that I can say is, that the cure said nothin;, that is not conlbrnmhle, at least as to tho
Bonso, to tho notes which I have produced.]
CIDSS-EXAMINKO.
, helieve that the Cure Sirois was .,u.e opposed to Mr, Tremhlay in the election which is in
question.
At the tnne of the sermon o. the sixteenth, tho -'•-•''' -^ '^^^ ^^^^iltJlf" "^•^^' ^
he is not a violent or excitable man, a, least he does not >^^v. the unpress.on ol Ihmu.^^ such.
The cure <l.ios not jrive me the imi.ressioii of a man who speaks slowly.
T, the best of my knowledge, he spoke that tin.e between half an hour and three quarters of
„„ ,„„„.; I can specify nothing about this, for 1 have a very vaguo recollection ot .t.
I 29.10 1 dain. that the notes which I ha^c given contain no. only the ideas, hut even the expressions
of which the euro .nade use, although, perhaps, ihey may not be word tor word.
The notes arc word for word that which was spoken by the cure, except, perhaps, some word«
which may have been omitted.
The remark bein<. ma.le to the witness that the reading of his notes had taken twenty minute.s,
.HhoS ^r h.!:i:;n live or six minutes of that h.t, it w..s pointed out to ,m t .a .sermon
eoul.l therefore only have lasted about a quarter of an hour. '1 he -'^''p- ^^ . J,'';^;; ^ ,,,
,he i,npres.ion, without, hosvever, being positive of it, that the sennon lasted half an hou.,
quarters of an hour.
Viuostion.-I)o yoa «wear that tho cure did .i..t use n.any expressions which are not in your
'.'BSOnolos?
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<„„«„„._wii, ,.... .-» .!,». ■,» »™„„ « t «o,. ,„.„ >!.. ...«. .i.i<-. y- '■>'• '■-
„i>lic(l to tli(! court?
Answer.— 1 tan nweivr to noU.int; nioro than t
ic ni)l()s.
Answer. — I t.iu n»»»^i»' "" !->
,„.,,,,n. -Is i t, possibU. t,.a. ....■ .-n. n.ay ..av. sai,. .on^ethin. ol.e, an., that you can-
not rcnifinltcf it / , . i .i.„„
, .._. a,, not ..cn..nl ; i- is ,...„. t.a U. c.e .nay l,ave s.,! so.eth.n. Co thaa
,„., which n>y notes .ontuin, an.l ,ha. 1 do no, ■■..,u.n,h.. ,..
I ... ....e that the ... .11,1 no. h.n,. n.e those notes til. a.te.- it i boon repcted at Ba.o St.
J960 ,..ul that .Mr. I'a-.net hu.l prepared a su.nn.ary oi' the .ern..n
, ....... at Q..ohee th. M. .-.p,. h.,. P.^.^;- th.t s.,.nn.a.-y; .t was .y cous.n. Mr.
,,„.„„., Uottssoau, assistant editor of the ...venern.,.., . h„ toLl ,t to .
Tho journey w..ich I .nade to t^.ehce to,.. t three "ay^ '-as - my ..urn J.o. U. ^t
JOU.-..OV that I ioke at I5aie St. Paul of the su.nn.a.y p-epu.v.. Uy Mr. la,t.et,
lhe.e "had been a report about it betoie.
.,•11-. ii,,. lirst to the other of this
,,,„„„t.-en.e...ber whether it wu. 1 or the ei.ro who sp.,We ih.
M.inn.a.-y ol' Mr. I'aq.iefs. ^^^^^^
, toolc tha, copy of the ....e's sermon only .Wr :ny ^^^^■;^:^f^:^-J^ ^^^Z Hott^^eat., of
,.,ld of a s„m...ary of it which M,-. I'a.p.ct had n.ade ; 1 had ''- ^ -":; ^^^^ ,,,„ ,,ed by tha
,.,0 who. , have spo,.n above ; •>o ...J n--;^ ^^t^ r^ in ^r ^ ^^-y -ny^Cf that be ha.
;r.;;::r;:: ::-r^asi5:r:;.:;e.ne,nbe. it w. i w,. ...d the cur. .. that ...
V;s ser.non, to! the purpose which . have just ...e..t.o..ed.
T..e copy which I have produced was .ade i.y me tVon. the tU. cc^ ^'t rt Irtt'.lu:
„„„. .,,i..,:ihe crc bad ba..dcd ..u- ; "-. -1;^ J^;;^, .J!;:; ^t'Locate of the de.e.u.a..t
.,.,... when it was p...ducc.. by '"I;;"; , ^ :S; .^ ^ ',,i/,.„.se«sion ; until that time I l.a.1
,y another copy which the ad..c te ^ ^ J^^'^^ ^,_^^^ ,,^^^ ,„,;.,,tion. are correct, irom hav.ng
i;::r;;:::i;'-; ;:--:- ^--'^^ '^'" >■" -"- ^" '"""" " "" '
^"""' '"""'" ^ '^'^ ""' ":;::c::;T:iv:r: .. h. cor.ct ^ ..t e... t..e maccuracie. Which hav.
Aner h..v,n, ,cad a <^^^ ^,,, ,^,,^ ,,,,,, ,.,,, ,,e nny others.
„,,„ ..„....ected ... court h, th. at.o, ne, ^^^^^^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^.^
(iuestion.-NVill you swear that .. .. not pos>.hlc that the . IM
other inaccuracies ? , u .=
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1,0 .ouhl Hwcu- tl.at tho c..r6 luui ,,m»ou.u..l ll.oso w..nl. , U.. witnoHS roplio.1. " no. in that Mnne;
I umlm-Htoi)(l tliul IVom Iho wholo."
Q„e.ti.,M.-IIow.-..nMynuHwonc.iiHtn..w that you. noto. .•nniaine.l the Bcrmon of tho c■ur^
word tor word, oxcopling, iiorliaiis, ii low wonlsy
A,Hwor.-\Vhon I «aid "Word lor word" just now, I had i.Uondod to nay that my notes wore
."wonUWrwordufthoBOofthc ....ro, and 1 <li - wan, to .ay that .hero had hcon no
,„„ission« n.adc in it in nialving tho last c.py wliioh 1 huvo produoo.l.
At tho timo whon I copie.l .ho ou.6V no.cs. I holiovol Iha, thoy oontainod word tor word, with
3„„ul!i" osooption of a fow wor.ls, porhain, the word. pro„„unco.l by tho curd.
1 swoar that ll,o ouro .aid what thoro is i,. .ho „o,o., ho.a,He ..ndlng thorn to mo has madomo
ro loniber it.
(iuo.tion.-WiU you swear th.at in roadi,.- to you, no n.,itlor what part of tho ..otos, you will
roniomhor that part of tho sormon with oor.ainty 7
.Vnswor.-Hy roadit.g all tho .orn>on at on.o, 1 mi.;ht swoar .hat I could rcn,omhor it. but I
could not swoai' this for each part separately.
Question -How do you oxplain .hat you aro ahlo to ro.nou.hor, with tho help of not.^, tho
.vholi of llTo "ormon, and' that, Ivi.h .ho help of tho samo notos, you oaunot ro.non.bor tho d.llorent
])arts of tho same sormon ?
.V.,swor.-lt is lH.oau.0, whon I hoard tho euro Siroi.' scrniou. it was in that manner that ho
■^""^ procoodod, and that it strikes mo more in that manner.
(iuoslion.-Is it -.ot true that whon you hoard the ouro s sermon, you hoard it in parts ?
Answor.-Yos, ho did dolivor it in parts, tho ono following tho other.
Quostio.. -How is it that you suid you could ronKMuhor tho whole of tho sormon, word for
word rJ that just MOW you doolarod you could not recollect ono sentence of tho sa.d sornvm, which
was road to you word lor word?
Answor.-l only roraomhor it w<.rd for word whon tho sermon is road all at once.
If ono sontonco If the sermon, detached from the rost, wore read to mo I nught say whethe, .t
wore in tho sormon, but not wl,other it was, word for word, what tho euro had said.
Ciuestion -You have said, tha. provided tho no.os wore roa.l to you in tho order in which thoy
.,.„u you V..uld imnu-diatoly ron.embor, wonl for wo,.i, tho euro's sermon; those notes having been
su road t.. you, be good enough to roport that sormon, word lor wovd.
A,HWor.-l n.cant to say that whon 1 am rea.i to, word by word, I can romembor that that i.
the truth, and that if I were given words which would change the sense, I should perceive it.
, ,„,,,i„„ _Yos or no, did the euro say tho f.Uowing words: ■' You will, perhaps, say but you
go ,oo fai-; you have talam your political side, consociuently you can force us to follow your
opinion ? "
Answor.-l .lo not remember that tho cure said that in that sense; it is the exprossi.m to fbroo
your opinion, which is not correct.
I ,„,„ (Jueslion.-Oan you undertake to swear, that by reading these notes to you in tho order in
""'whieh tiloycomcyo'^. will be able to toll, on each sentence, whether anything was omiUed or
added ?
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An«wor -Yo«, if anything in lul.Io.l which rUan^on the -onHOi hut if wordH are .wMed which do
iKii I liaiiKo the hotiho, I nhfiiilil not jiorcoivo it.
I rio not think that a Honlcnco could bo panocil over without my porcoiviiiK it.
- 'I'ho f.r«t i.iiKe of tho«o noli-M boin^ nm\ iiTo^'uiurly to the witnoHM, ho -locliiroH that ho m
under liio in.i.re«Hior> that ^onuuhing had b.-on ud.iod .,r omuIUhI, but thai l>o c.uid not Huy whuh
(if tho two.
The advocato for tho Politin„or« udinit. that ir. romlin« thi« part of tho n..to« ho had pas^cJ
30-10 iivor two NontoncoM und addud aiiotlior.
noudin- b..i„.' ii.iido to ti.o u-itMosH of Iho i-assutio U-iniiiiif,' will, tho wordn " while conK'ratu-
|,rM,r vol. "a.Ml Hni.hir.- with tho word. " u thousand culniniiios," tho witness wa« ntikod whothor
aiiythinf,' hu.l hooi. oniillcd ; and ho aimWorod that bo thought there hud, and it wan oHtabl.Hho.l
that nothinj^ had boon omitted.
I do not romombor that at tho be-innint? of his Ho;-n.Ti, l!.o cure ordor.^ 1 tho church-wardon«
M„l to porinil any porson tospouk on tho church ground. ; but 1 (tannot nwoar that ho did not do thm,
and I havo hoard say that ho had issuwl that prohibition.
RE KXAMINKD.
Tho corroctions which wore rt.a.le in my n..tos at this sittiuf^. aro indicated by tho wordn,
jii.lO" corroded at tho hearing," at the doso ol each correction.
When I said that my notes wore word lor word with what tho curA said, I meant to say that
thoy conveyed tho moaning of the sermon, but that Ihero may bo omissions in thorn, m tho word^
or in tho expressions.
The notes jiroducod by mo have boon copied from tho sumtuury of tho sermon that tho curd
Sirois sent to tho Archbisbop.
This deposition being road to the witness, ho porsistoth therein, declaring that it contains the
truth, »nd bath signed.
W. TllIiMBLAY.
Taken and sworn
before mo, in open Court, atMalbai
2nd Kcptcraber, 1876.
io. this >
A. B. PiuTniEii, J. S. C.
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DOMINION CONTHOVKUTKl) KhKCTIONS ACT, 1871
Pro8cnt-Th.> II..n. A, H, UDUTHiEn, J. 8. 0.
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UUASSAllO, el al., IVtiiioaers.
I'.S'.
Ilnn. II. L. L\soEVlN, Defendant.
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EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
,.,„.„, ^..,„.... .Urn,e.-, o, the puri.h o.' Sc. Su.u , bci,.., .l.ly .w,.,-.. u,,.n .ho ILly
'«,,,,-::;;:,;:tt::::'n='rj^:r::i^ " ;
I, Of inalo mv miirk iii)0>i il.
John Savanl, morchanlV clorU, tlu-. of Sto. Fi.iolo ?
Answer.— No.
Que.lion.-l. is no, ,n.c ,1,:U ...o K.i.l witin, w.h tl.n n-.l .„ yo,. by the .M Joi.n Sava.l 7
3070 Tlio queotion was objettod to a.4 Icailing.
Quotition withdrawn.
1 !,.vv. never l.oa.d tho Hni.l exhibit mul bofon- this n.orning in conrt.
, ,..vo hoa..,l this ,.a,,c,- .rnUon of bo.o.-c at the p.-iostV house at St. Fidolo; Mr. Cur.
(rinq-Marn askc<l n»o to Hi^n it and 1 would not.
, ..erusod to .i«n this ,a,K. heeau^o i. did not contain the tnUh , ho had asked me to s,g.
this paper beeao... ofti>e atlidavit whi.h 1 liad already t,Mvcn.
Q..estion.-The exhibit no, having boon road to you, how did you know that it .lid not > ,ai,.
w
no
Answor.-l know it l.coaaso you told it lo mo when I came h.w to give
flvidonce for the
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jictitioiu'iM in llio iire^oiil in
,tam!e ; licforo lliat 1 ilitl not know it.
(^Mi'-ition.
-It' von c
lid not l<nou- tlio coiiU'iits ot this oxli
I'Xililjit
liuforc coming to givo your
I'vi'li'MOO, iiow cnlll
voii wwe
iWCiii' tluU on tlic
twcnly-i!iL,dilli ol I'Vliruary la.-.
,1 tl\is writing did not
(•(intMin
tiio liulh 't
An-wcr— 1 did ni>l laiow it, tiny
1)1, road .1 Lo m>', i
liTV (d' St. l-'idtdo to sign a impor tli:it iu^ li:i
1 not it:«1 to nie, a
lu- cm oCimi-Mais ar,ive'l me at the J)^•o^*by
nd I would not .Mgn it beouui-e they
wanli'd to do niu ^ol
mo nii.^cddei' on account of m
ly allidavit, bocau.-^o
tlio euro luvl told mo of it
i'for(
(^ue.-'tion
.—At wliat time had lliccuro thus >|..d<cn to you
clbio ?
Tlio (lueslion w
IS oli|i
hicctcd toas :iH-^u>nuig ihal t
lie wiiiKw, sai<l iliat the euro had spokoii at
3090 another season before, whilst tlio wi
liiess
bad not said thai the ei
lire had spoUon at any other season ;
he had only^aid thai the cui
Objection set aside.
■e bad sixdcento him liefoie.
The same >
hiv that ho bad made this wrilii
•ote it before me ai
id ho did not mako m«
aciiiiainted w
I with what that document contained.
'I'be Cure Tremblay came afterwar
tieillier read nor exiilaino
ds, and thev sent to
fetch .lohn Savard ; that writing was
t t„ mo by tho ''uro (JiiKi-Mars or the Cur.? I'l
Savard, am
il 1 never a'dciiow
lel"(Hl that th 1, writing ontaino
1 t!io l.nil.li eit
omblay, nor by John
hor hof )ro tho f^urd
Cill:
M
irs, noi
before tho Cure Tremblay, nor
beloro .bibn Savard.
(Question. — l'.e good enough to reiiorl w
hat the <'urc Ciiwi-Mars said to you then'
jlOO Answer.— I io not remember.
(Jucstion
-lie "ood enon^'b to say who made you re
member tliat you had refuiod to sign that
(iocuineiit liccau-e it mi
■ ht have done you some harm on ae^
ml ol'your atlilavit ?
.\iiswer. — i 'lo not remember.
The Cure (JiiKj Mars
iIk' writing in (lue^tion.
tlie Cure Trembl.iy ai
,1 .lolin .Savanl di.l not then -^poali in my p
rcsenco
MO iiuestion then (at llie pii
There was no i|
s ami the Cure TremI
iost'8 house at St. Fid.ilo), in presence o
if the Cure Cinq-
IV, and of .lohn S.ivar
i of tho artidavit that I had given before, ai
ill of
vhieh I have spoken in my first evidence
When the Cure Trenibliiyarrivcl, be signed the writing in question w,
;MIO:nid went away dina-tly, and .lohn Suvar
also Sl'HK'
niel il without reading it to
ibnit saying anything,
ino and without
davmu' a
word lo me.
It
was tho t II
Cine Cino-Mars, who had made me come to the i)r:esl'.s house, on aci
ount of tho
1 bad signed; he a.-.kod mo whether 1 bad given a
affidavit that
had told me that it was a morta
illldavil declaring that the cure
1 sin to vole for Mr. Tremblay
I answered him yes;
he told mo it
not true, that ho had not t'dd me that, an
til the onvorsalion tliat there was between
d him that ho bad told it lo me
Marn
il I an>weri
me and the tJure (.'imi-Marn
that
I have not a good memory.
1"M"
' beini
shown to me on which ihoro is a mark, ii eros-^
r cannot 'say who male it; I
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a; , no, ,n..l<c. a .•■•.,«s, wl,on Mr. ('in, Mar. u.kcl n.o t.> h. .<-, I couM no. roco.ni.o my mark.
3120 I ,ii>l .u.l dcu'lare U, uny bo.ly that I l.a.l ni-ne,! tl.o writing .n..iuo«U..n.
CROSS-EXAMINED.
M.or.i.-aMr Cina-Murs, un ,l,e o.vaMon ..I whi.i. 1 Lave .poken abovo h«l told mo that
Uu,,it .i^ I 1-i Kivon .o IVIicvilicii,! not contain U>o .n.ti. , and "'tor that I h d
n i m 1 i it did contain ih. tr.uh, ho a.iccd mo to sijjn a dcclarafon to oontradu.t that
iliiU ti.cv wanted to tnaku mo contradicl my affiiluvit.
Wi^n the Cur6 (;in,,Ma,. 1 ,ro,KU-cd tho ,.:u,..r, and wanted ''^ ;-^2';^^^i;';^;:^J::
„a,, ,.ot read it to mo, I ut.derstood that the ol,j.,ct of th. paper was to confud.ct m^ dedarat.o
given before Ueileville, and it wa. lor li.al that I would no, si^m. it.
word., at leant uh to the «enHe. ^..^xam.ned.
Quo«tion.-What wa. the sense of the conversation that you then bad with the (^ure Cin,-
' " Ol^octed to as not rosultin, f.om the cross-examination. and because the ,uostion sl>ould havo
boon put during the examination in chief.
Objection sot aside.
Answcr.-This is what, passed : The cure asked me if 1 bad signed at. atHdavit, as 1 b^o said
,„0ahov^3 I told hi-n yes; and 1 refused to .ign tbe <lo..,.arat,.on wh.ch he had p.epa.el.
Tbis deposition boing read to the witness, bo porsisteth therein, declaring that it contain,
the truth, and that ho cannot sign.
Taken and Sworn "|
before me, in open Omrt, at Malbaie, this V
4lb September, 1H7C. )
A. B. IIOUTIIIEB, J. S. C,
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Province of Qneheo, J
District of Suguciiuy. J
SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVEliTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
i:iert,o,i of a Memb.r for the House of Commons, for tlie. ElMoral District of Charlevoix, Malbait,
•Ith Seiitemher, 1871!.
Present— The Hon. A. B. RoUTiiiEK, J. S. C.
BRASSARD et al., Petitioners,
\^s.
Hon. H. L. Lanoevin, Defendant.
E\/IDEI\lCE ON BEHALF OF THE DE FEN DA NT.
Jc.nn .Siivanl, a.Ljed oij^Mitoon years, clerk, of llio puri-li of St . Simeon, beiii;,' duty sworn upon the
Holy EviingelistH dcposctli and suit li :—
I know tiif parties in thir* cause; I am neither a relation, nor a connection, nor a servant, nor
u domestic, of any of them ; I have ao interest whatever in the result of this miit.
In Fehnmry la.s'. i lived at Sto. Fid.ile.
Tlic i.rnalure, "John Savard," at the lioilom of the Hxhihit .\o. 1, of the Oofondant, is mine,
1 always si'^'n " .lo'hn Savard;" 1 do not know whether the sijrnature E. W. Tremhiay is tiiat of the
3l50cure of Ste. Kidule; I did not see him >it,'.i that paper.
1 know Johnny Doshiens, of St. Simeon, a witness, Iienrd in this cause.
tiuestion.— Be j,'ood enou-h to sav whether you read the (h.cument, Kxhihit No. 1, of tho
Defendant, to the said Johnny Deshiens, say where, wheu, and what occurred between you and him
with rcf^ard to the said tlocument ?
Answer.-I'irst I arrived at the par^ona-e of Mr. Tremhiay, al Sto. Fidolc, for certain husinesa
which 1 iiad there; whdst 1 w.is there Mr. l'ran<;ois rin<,-Mars. cure of St. Simeon, am vod at the
rnisonatte ; 1 am sure that this last liad not arrived at the parsona-e when I went there; Mr. Cinq-
Mars asked mo whether I knew how to sign ; 1 answered yes; then he asked ifl would sign a
j)aper.
,„,„ Q„cstion.-Re good enough to sa. why you signed K.vhihil No. 1, of the Defer,.i..nt ; whether
Johnny Desluens, took ..ogni.ance of the said oxhii,it, in what ..onneclion, a.i.l when, an.l the
declaration which ho made in relation to that writing?
Objected to by the petitioners-) st. Because this evidence tcn.ls to prove that .Tohnn:: Po..-
biens made a declaration contrary to what he has just said in his eap.acity as a wiUiess l„r -ho
Defendant and that the Defendant cannot thus prove that his own witness has not told the Irutl. ,
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.. 1 Sum...MM- tint tluit ...i.lon.v l.a.i u. it. ..I,;,..! 1,. ..,.„i,a,rK.t what Jv.bien^ Huia i.. reply to ll.O
Wiilia.n Savara a.ul Fra.K'ois Boi-oron, w>.,v not pirsotit at tl..' tu.t . ...uo.ali.m I
31TOI„.twotMi iV^Mi'ii^ ami tlio ('arc Cimi-Mars.
OlijocllDii i-CHcivca t.ir liiMriiii:; "u ilic tiiorii-.
A,H.vo,..-l .i;;ne,l thai wri.in. at the ,o,,noM ..ftho -mc; Jol.my IH^l--- ^^ r^J;;^
,,„, i,,o tho ..111.0 at tl.o >amo muo a, -^l',/ ' ■^^' ? ' j. ' , J,, „,, ;„ j,,o.once ..fMr. Cinq-
;;:::• !;:\i::";^r:i;r,.::;t;:;^,;::t;;:;^^^^^^^^^^ ot.L,.i..it;ue..o.
ivpliea "All ni,'l,t," who.. 1 had Ih.ishod .oa.li.ig th.> w.'itii.- ... q.iosuo...
3„0 (iao..ion.-n. ,oM ono..,l. to say wh.tl.o, .loiu.ay U.s..io,.s the. t co,..i.a..o o, tl.o
(:,)ntoi.ls oC tho writing i.i .lucstioi. ?
(Ji.ostion objoolo'l to as loading.
Ohioc'tio.i .nai(ilal..ed.
This ,|ii>-.iioi. was ohjcctod to a> heading.
Objection iiiai.itiiii.cd.
,i..es,io„,-Uo ,o..d e,.o.,,l. to toll i,. what .na,.n... yoa .-oad that w,.iti,., to Johnny Desbion* /
Objcoto I ihal thai .luostioi. bo not put for tl.o p.-oscnt.
;il',lii Olijoction ^<-'t aside.
A,.wo,..-l .'cad ,hat wnli.., as .,„o ..oad, go..o,-ally; T .-eacl it alo-d, such a. it i. on the
''""^,os,io.,.-no good enough to say what passed .Uler you real the said writing to Johnny
l.osbio.is?
Aiiswo.-.— I wont away di.-oclly ulter.
CROSS-EXAMINED.
. 1 I ■„ .i,o ..rvioo of 1.1 V uMolc Denis rra.ithicr, a witness hoai-d in this cause ;
I ;un at present elci-k in the seiMcool i.i\ n.u le, Troniblay owed
,ho basii.oss whioh b,-ought mo to tho parso..age was so.no ..v.ney that the (,ure i oumiy
!!!,„y either i I wont inU. the pa.-sonago alo.io, into tl.o l<itolion ; tho cu.-e was not ihe.o.
:vm ru. Cn-e Treniblay oan.o i..to the kitchen to spo.U. to ,no about the businesB ^-^^^^^J^l
.o..t'away again.andj do ..o, reniein^r -;-;:«-- ---tin.r d'^t^^hl
W0..1 i..to the cure's ollu-o, walk...g behn.d M Uw^ . .^, ^'i
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l.'ll
till
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,•„,■.. TivM.l.luy .lid n-l K" '•''< "'' ''"'"■- ^^•'"■" '"' '''" '''^' '^'^'■'"'■" ' ''^' '"""" '"" ^'•^' "'" ''""'" "^
IciliU In lli^ "IlifO.
■r',.. Cmv 'r.rn.l.lay tl.uH w.u; -ul waKnui hsivin- Kiwi, mo lu n.y , al'ior havin- l.coi. into
,U. nili... will, Mr. ('in.,-MarH, I wonl hucU to ll.e kiU'hon, and ll.on tl.o Cue T.Tn.Muy .•lu...- laeU,
,,,„,nu.rin^' l.v th- .lo„- wl.i 1. lo:.,l> IVmu I.o UH^' >" Li^ ""i-; 1'" ''i ' "!--'< ^" ■""'" ""
" w,il,nu uf \vl.i.l. 1 ^l^.Uo in my uxun.inui,,.,, i.. .l-.u! ; uL loas, 1 .!>. not .■.n.c.,.lxT .t, u.id 1 roally
n.ink 1 .hould iv,m.n,l.cr ii if he l,ad d.n.o ,t ; .... tl.o .......1-... ii. .iiio4.„„, 1 .1..1 i.-t Ml -lowi. a. a,
i„ .1,0 ..no's ,.llic-e; 1 am .•o.tain ..I it ; ii..n...liau.|y afior wo wont in, J..l.nny l).'>lMon. cumo ,n
,.,„„i.." fr..m .1,0 Uifhon 1 n.-t ...-,■.■ Ov.u uv • in,..,. n.;nuto, hud olaiHO.I nin.o wo .•an,o ;n
,„.,.|,..,7^ U-i tny iin|.iosHi.,n i. that tlio im.o was >.. ..I...rl tl.ul wo ha.l i.-.i had time t.. Hpcak, Mr.
.•i„„-Mars an.l 1, holoro ll.o a.r.val .., IV.hi.M,.; iV-n. the Uiud.cu ...m .ni. .00 very wo I out o.
,l„or«, on tl.o M.lo ..!• ihc onicr .l.....^ -f tl.o kit.!,..., 1 .1.. n..l romon.l.or K, l.avo ^eo., Do^l.ion, ....
,ha., M,io ; ..no run «oo lo tho -liMan.-o of an a..' • -w. ..n ll.al si.lo; 1 .lo not ■•on.on.hcr wl.uh
^,,„ko r.is., .1,0 Cuio Cin.i-.MarH or lK".l.i.n^; ail i .a„ .v,„o,nl.or ,,. il.a, ,!..• (...o . m.i Mars asked
3220 „>o t.. .M«i, tho w.ilint,' of wl.idi i have si...!;>m, .vn.cl. w;.., in l.i^ w.M,..-.
I eannot swour th.U tho sai.l wri.in;; is sn.^l. a. it was wl...,, I si .-no,! i. ; I di.l i...t puy atton
,i,.., t,. tho exuet w.mliny of tho writing', hul I kn...v il.at it eo,-,i.i..l that the < ...•o t ......Mars
1,,..,1 .pok.n ..f tho olecli..ns to Johnny Dosl.ien. .-nly, al l.is i.a.-.ona.^o, ..n the liO.h Janaary, ,n
|„x■^el,c•e ..f l''iMin;..is HorgeiN.n an.l William Savani.
|,..„n..l ,vn,.Mnl,..r havin;^ r.a.l ... l)..,i,io,.s .ho .la.o marked Leh-w tl.o said WMtinL-, nor the
si.n.alares, J,.hnnv l.e.hions, K. W. T.en.l.lay, Pre., .lohn Savar.l ; I y roa.l the substance ..f tl.o
srd writin- t.. him; I d.. in.t .oiuemhor whether ,|,eso M^'natures woro there I hen, Lull Un.,w
,i,..t .here we,-o -..me ..f th.m, .he,e, for tho 0.10 I'in.i-Mars tol.l me I., s'^n. hen.ath.
1 ,ec, one..a,..ii.inK tho said wn.ii.K, ihat lho>ai.l witi.,,.; wa. tirsl .lalo.l from St . Simo.^n and
,.,.,«tl,at from tho w.,.ds "S.. Si,ne..n '• el,,... ina.le the w..r,ls "St. !■ i.lolc ' ; I a.^eoi'tam thai iho
^-■'^.'.er.wr•.li.,^^ "St. Kidolo," is n..l in iho w.-iling of M, . Cn.i-Ma.-. , at least ,. does uol appear to
1,10 to he so.
The over-wrilin" in peneil whiel, is on the wo,-,l proseneo was not, it 1 rcmemhor, upon fho
said w,i.in,u' ; 1 ean.ml .o.nomhor whether or no there was a .lato iho.'o who,. 1 signed iho wr.i.ng.
(Question. -H..w...,es il happen ihal y,.u eann,.i re.nen.l,, r whether tho w,iling was dated,
i„„- whether il was signe.l, an.l thai you ean .emo.ul.e/ what il conla.no.l ?
Answer. -It is hoeauso g.'neially I i.ay ve.y little attention I., r.... ,lato and to ,ho signatures
.•xcopl when the sii,'natmo .)f a letlor is in (jueslion.
1 ,1,. „o. noneM.Ler that when i read tho writing Deshiens was asked (hy mo or by tho Cure
33.10 ( 'in. i-Mars) if ho ha.l ui,doisto..d whal had jusl been roa.i lo him.
I.U.not kn..w whoma.leihe en.ss whieh is up,.n tho sai.l writing, as being that of Johnny
Desbions; 1 do not know if it was there when 1 sig.,e.l ; I .lo n..l lemomber that il wa.s Dosbiens
who made il bet'oro mo.
I M,r„e.l with.>ut Hitting .lown, loaning upon tho cui'o's .iosk t.) write; 1 was near tho ,i.;-k,
Desbiens^vas before mo, and the cure behind, or at tho si,lo ; 1 a.u sure of tho pos.t.o.i of Dcsb.ons
but nol of tho cure; 1 only signe.l aflor having read; I wont -tway ,li,-oet!y after having signed; 1
do not kn..w whether Uesbions went away dii'oetly or n.)t.
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When tlio Curi ('inq-Marn nuked mo to rvaii tho writui/jf, he itimply Bnid to mo, ' rcwl thiHj '*
I licj,'iiii lo ri'ii.l in u low voice, iiinl li(« Hiiil t<> mo, " rt'ad aloud , " lie did tutl oxpluin (o mo at all
Ifjowliv lie iiiulc mo reml it; if ho wpuko to mo uIk)uI it 1 cannot romoiiiltor it , I do not ronioinbor at
all to have noon Mr. I' 'ons in the kitohon.
HC-eXAMINKU.
I Kignod that writing on Mondiiy or Shrovo Tuonduy, in proHoiui of Jolinny I)c(ihioni*,and »Hnr
Ins iinswor, as 1 havo naid.
Phis dopoHiiion being road to tho witncwn, ho persintelh tliervin, duelurinj? that it e4)ntaiuH fh«
uuch, and hulh signed. JOlINSAVAUD.
Taken and wworn
boforo mo, in open t'ouit, u( Malhiiif, this
4tb Sept., 1876.
A. U. KoiJTniER, J S.
PruTUicti
l>bitrlct
ror'sriV.i SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVERTHD ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
Klfctinn of a .\hmber lor the ll<me of Commons, f'jr the Electoral District of Charlevoix, Malbain,
4th Scptnnher, 1870.
Present— The Ilcn. A. B. Routiiier, T. S, C.
BRASSARD, d. al., Petitioners,
vs.
Hon. H. L Lanuevin, Defendant.
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
Ephrem Simard, a<,'cd 54 years, carpenter, of the parish of Baie St. Paul, being duly sworn
upon tho Holy Evangelists, deposeth and saith : —
I know the parties in this cause; I am neitlier a rr! "ion, nor a connection, nor a servant, noi
3itl(t a domestic of any of them ; I havo no interest whatever m tho result of Uus suit.
I atteiido<i grand mass at Baio St. Pa very Sunday during tho election, and I heard the
hormons of tho ctir^.
From a!! the sermons of the cur ! understood that one ough* to vote accordin;; to one's
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onn.(iom-o i If thoro woro ..lhor« who to-.k ..iTrnic.., »,wuu«o li.ey bolievt-l thoy roi«uuhw\ llienwclvc.
Ill iliOHO sertnoiiM, no much the worno lor them.
Th,. , ..r6 uni.l it wan not wi'v-^-nvy to nnk him hin opinion; that .-vn-y on« was nt iihorty to
lolo hy hi!4 fonnciunio, aciordiiiK to tho mmithil.- of iho HiHlioits.
Tho cM.rd m not xny, aii.l diil no- ninkc it iinUoMtood. thiit it wim (orhi.l.l. t
lor Mr. Trcmbloy or hiu jioliticiil friciidH.
t«
:,j7f) Wh^^n tho curt «,.ol<oottlio l/.horol i-nrty, I iin.lorHtood that h.- winhod to «.iy thr.< i' would
U'fonio hero as in tho oUl countiioH.
Uy tho Liberal party I ui.dcrxiood what it* <»llod Iho llowje party.
I di.l not understand llmi thovun'. ojc plained the mandate m .■un.UMuni..K M.-. Tron.blay an.J
hi. party, Imt 1 undorMn.Kl liiat tli« .-ure only wanted to put u. on onr ^uard aKamn. il';'«<' ^J'h'*
auaikod ;eii«ion; I did no. „„d..,s,and ,1... ..no to ..y that it .he pn.ple voted '- *»';• ^ ;; ' >;
rcli.M..n wouVd bo broken down ; I .lo no, ,l,ink .hat he said that, a..d he did not ..j '^ , or tlm
,ho:o who voted for M.-. Tremblay or hi- pu.-.y would be looked ..poi, a. b.ul tu.hol.eH, nor that .1
wnua Bin to vote for one eandidato or the other.
1 wan present whe.. the l.efe.idx.t npoke at tho ehu.eh door at IJaie S,.l'aul, M'^ 'l;;';"'';^>;
:t:iH.) wa. present; the Dofenda... did noi say then, '■ how ca.. .M.-. T.v.oi-iay k'.. a«.m,«t the eler^) , w.th
the cdor^y, one ban not anyihiMH to spa.v, a.id all the eleij,'y aie M-ai.isi hi.n.
When I »ai.l that I unders.ood th.U the n.njr pa.ly was in .(...stion, wIh-u the ""••YJ"''" ;''
.he Mbe.'al parly, and (hat i. would beeome h.-.e as in the old oo....try, I o..;;hl to ,ay that 1 under
Htood thai (Voni what was said i.i the newspiipei-H.
I know Alfred Dufour, a wiino*. hea.-d in this cause; 1 had no oeeaMon .o speak to lii.u durin;;
(ho election.
Towards tho clo.e of la-, Deeembe,-. when On.sime Ganlhier .pj.. at Hau, S,. ^'^^^^^^^
sMl.cdtheeleelorsaboiit.heehMeeof aea..didate in oppo,i.iou to Mr. 1 remhlaN al the p.u.sh,
:UMhe:;!:^.tiono, a, .ir,y.wero deeided against Mr. Tre.nblay ; ^'•; -^f-^X^^
3.1.0 as strong at L be,i„nin, ol' the eont.s. as a. the e.ul ; in the eoneess.on - - '^ ^^^^^^
Haie), thcpa.-ty .emained .he sa.ne; last yea.-, what, above all, turned par..es ag.i.nsl Mr. i.e.nbla>,
was tho woik on tho erib at Haio St. Paul.
It W.IS thoui^ht that ••... injustice was done to tho labo.-er; that the Cove.-nmen. mi.'ht as well
pav ZL .d .ho day as .^I.er three .noiuhs ; 1 d ,t think that .he eu-e's --'-^^-^^ ^
i,;,.lovoteatl{aioS.. Paul; on .he eon„.i.-y, I think that those sei-.uons only made ho ,. .p'o
r.; firm! tl.at is to .say, .1... .hey eneoarage,! the people to hold ,n .,c to .heir par.y ; the wo.nen
we.-o not afraid because of ll>e cure's sonuon.s.
CBOS.S-EXAMINED
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, .„Jor,Wo,l U,a., *,. ,o „v„i.l .hi, w» „.«.. Mbw ,l,« 9»l ,»U. ; WiJ »ol "l-"'""' »■■■"
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l,v voting tor Mr. Trcmblnv wo oiiU>ro.l into tho path wiiicli con.liKte.l to all tliat ; I do not tliink T
,;„iKiliiive boon mistaken" l.v imdorstandinfr, as I did understand, that one eandidate was better
lliin tho oilier; I .lid not understand that tVoni the cure's sermon, but uftor tho candidates had
Miokenof'it I understood the sermon ot the cure; I am certain that I understood it perfectly; I
swear that 1 understood it at tho time, and I should understand it to-day it it wore read to mo word
;;;ilfl((ir word.
Thccurecau<od ittohe umlcrstood that reli,;,'ion was in dan^ror of being attacked in this
countrv as it had hee.i in the old countries ; 1 did not understand whether it was through ono
mrtv or through the other thai it was thus in danger ol being attackcl, but I un.lerstood that
r,'o,n what the newspapers said of Cuiholie Liberalism; and I understood thai that would Iwippcb
hiler; and I did not nnder-taud that the.uic meant to make it understood that Ihoro woro people
of that party in this couiiiiy.
1 understooil that there were m.t yet any Catholic Liberals in the country; but that llicro
might bo later.
I do not remember that the cure s.ud the foUowi.ig wor<ls : " They will act in such w.ny as to
rununmask themselves, to allow themselves to bo .seen as tiiey are, and it. such a manner as no
■" l,u,-cr to leave any doubt about their tendencies; a.ul there are some who have hearts I. ack
cnough, that if a religious persecution were to arise al this nioment, they would be tho hrsV lohold
the cord or the kniie wliicb >hould give us iho nuu'tal blow. "
After having hear.l this read, it comes into my head now that the euro did say it, and [ really
believe that ho said it, all hough 1 am iw.t sure ot it.
The folluwiinrsctilcncc being read to the witnesH, " By finding fault with, and by criticising,
asihcv do in the presence of their children, tho word of tiod and his mintslcrs some parents
assume a terrible respunsibilily belbre (uxl. When they are dead at.d tnrn.d to dusl. they wll
have Iclt children who will be ready to steep their hands in the blood .d tho pnesls if ever a
Xi:,„ persecution arises against them." The witness answers that tho eure did say that ; the witness
adds, 1 cannot remember what day he said that.
(,.uestion.--T)id the cure on Christmas Day, or any ot her <lay, speak of . visit which ac.ndid.ito
had iiaid hini?
Ohjected to bv the rvfendant as tending to prove acts of intin,idalion on the p.irt of tho Cure
Sirois, not mentiot\e<l in tho particul.ir., at.d prior to the month of January.
Objection set aside.
Answer. — Yes.
To ,ny knowledge the .'.n-e made it appear that all the candidates were alike to him. that ho
had no political feeling more for ono than for the other.
:i:!40 I cai.-.iot rometnber at all what tho Defettdant said at tho <loor of M.e church.
When Mr.dautbier sp,.ke at the door of tho church, [ remember that ho s.Vul that Mr.
Tremblay belonged to a parly that did not olVer us all the necessary guarantees.
AVhcn I eai.l that the sermons nad made the people more firm, it was bocauso they said, " Let
him prcich as much as be likes, it will -lo nothing to us ;" 1 have n,.t hoard a single parti/.an of Mr.
Tiemblay say that tho cure had preached against that gentleman.
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I know Rult.go Troml.lay and Tlieophilo Tromblny • *hcy nrc my brothers-in-law ; T cannot say
whether Tlieophilo wkh for Mr. Trcmbiuy at the be^i « of the election ; us Ibr I-'.ulogo, ho was
a-ainst him since the reading of the Bishops' mamluto .ast autumn, for, ^mi'l,' "'to his daughter s
I house after the roii'ling of tlie mandate, he said before me, he said to his daughter, who ,d>servea
Lo^otohim that after that mandate ho must turn, that, in offoct, ono must turn ; his daughter and he
wee before for .Mr. Tromblay.
1 can remember very little of the sermon of the sixteenth of January; it often happens that I
.lumber durin- the sermons, and I l)eli-«vo I did so during that sermon ; I meddled very little with
the election ; I %veiit about with one and another, but 1 did not talk to anybody to canvass him ; 1
was a partizan of the Defendant.
I wasomploycd a hundred and two days at thocrib-worU of winch I have spoken above, and
I was paid a dollar u day; I was pai.l in orders; those orders were payable in money, but wo
were obliged to change them to get goods, lor which we paid dearer than at Quebec.
Wo were at liberty to change tht-HO orders if we wished.
3;)(;0 RE-EXAMINED.
When the cur6 ^aid they would act in such way as to unmask them-^elvos, he spoke of thoBo
who incriminated the cures of the county.
This deposition being read to the witness, he porsistoth therein, declaring that it contains
tlie truth, and that ho cannot sign.
before me,
Taken and sworn ^
, in open ('oiirt, at Malbaic, this >
4th September., 187(5 )
A. B. KouTiiiKR, J. S. C.
X
119
I'roTlnco of Qaebcc, }
District of iSagueiiar. \
SUPERIOR COURT
DOMINION CONTROVERT KD ELECTIONS ACT, 1874
Kkction of a Member for the Jluuse of Commons, for the Electoral Discrict of CharUuoix,] Malbuit,
hth September, 1876
. I ^ ^ ■
Present— The Hon. A. B. Routhier, J. S. C
BIvASSARD, et a!., Petitioners.
Hon. H. L. Langevin, Defendant.
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
Klie MaiUoiix. aged 39 yo.vr., carpenter, of the parish of St. Simeon. I.cin- duly sworn upon
(ho Holy KvaiigelirttH, doposctli and laith : —
I know the parties in this cause ; 1 am neither a relation, nor a connoetion, nor a servant, nor
a domestic, of any of them; 1 have no interest whatever in the result of this suit.
I know Charles Bouchard, of St. Simeon, a witness hoard in this cause; he .lid not vote at tha
3H70 last election, boeauHO his father, Kmilien IJouehard, ha,l asked hint not to vote; I knew it, tor
Charles Bouchard told it to nie, myself, the day of the poUinj,'.
CR08S-E.XAMI.NE1).
I was fo" the Defendant at the election in question ; I swear that I did not say anything to the
witness of the Petitioners, except this : That it was their alVair to go to the court, or not to go there ;
these people came to ask me whether they might absent themselves from the mill ..f Mr. Denis
Cauthior, of which I am foreman, to go and give evidence at the request of the Petitioners ; I told
them that it wius not very easy to let them bo absent from the mill at tlua time, but that m any
case, that was their business.
1 swear that I did not tell any ol them that he would lose his place if he came to give evidence ;
3380 and that I did not cause any body to lose his place for that myself; and I <lo not aii-wer for others.
All that I said to Narcisso Bouchard, one of my men, was, that if, wlnlst he was gone to givo
evidence, I was obliged, in or<ler to work the mill, to take some one who w.mld not take his placo
for a few days, and insisted on being employed the whole season, 1 could not answer for his place;
he has lost it since; he was the only one who diil lo.so it.
Thoro was no means of replacing Narcisso Bouchard whilst ho was goi.a to the Court, except
by going to fetch a man outside the village, on the outskirts of the parish ; all the men of the village
of la Rivioro Noire were employed.
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Tlio village is oomposod of (ivo or six eottnuos, and wo oinpiny tlio mon wiio aro near, oiiU^iJa
iIk' villa^(!, when there arc not onoiigh in the villiigo. *
J39U Wiiori (;iiarl(»M Hoiiclmnl told nio what I have related above, it was in answer to the question I
put to him joiiin;,', wliy lie had nol voted; soino limo before 1 told him jokini;, tiiat lie was going
to lo^o liis election ; in the same way ho replied that ho wan going to win with a majority of four or
liv(^ hundred votes ; 1 told him, always in jolvo, tiiat if he won, 1 would give him a quintal of flour ,
Mid nol then know personally for whom ho was, but among the shanty men ho was eonsiderod as
l.t'ing for Mr. Trcmblay.
RK-KXAMINEI>.
It was not I who made Xareisso Bouchard lose his place at Mr. Deins fJauthicr'H mill ; it waa
Mr. Denis (Jauthier himself, giving him as ii reason that ho oui^ht to have returned the day boforO
in the evening to do his work ; that he had spent a day at Malbaie doing nothing after having given
'^""liis evidonco; that he who had r(q)hicud him had kept his plaeo.
Krom our establishment at Si. Simeon wo go to Malbaie in four hours and a half; the distance in
six leagues; Narcisso Hoiichard worked a circular saw; for this work it jiicked man is needed, to
mark otl' tho timber.
RE-CR0S8-EXAMINE1).
This took place in the first days of July, I think.
Whilst Nurcissc Bouchard was hero at the Court, I replaced him temporarily by another man
of the mill, one of the most able.
Tho mill might have continued working a day more with tliosamo arrangement, but tho work
was sutl'cring from it; Bi.uchard was hired for the summer.
g410 This deposition being read to tho witness he persistoth therein declaring that it contains tho
truth and that ho cannot sign .
before me,
Taken and sworn "|
in open Court, at Malbaio, this >
5th September, 187*!. )
A. B. RouTiiiER, J. S. C.
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lil-trlct of SiiBUiMiuy. J
SUPERIOR COURT
. , ,1. //„»sc of Commons, for the '^"" ' .
tUeciionof .. Member for the llnu.' ^^^^^ ^,^,^^ ,f September, IH.<>
h No. 14.
Present-Hon. A. B. RourmKH. J. S. 0.
^" mUSSARD. et «/., retilioners.
vs.
Hon. H. L. L^NOEVlN. Defendant.
HWOVIl 11
Joseph Ohnmhor
ijioii the Uoly
.|aml,n-M iwonty-si>c year
Hvan^eli.ts, ,lei...solh un
s. t
\ siiilh
imner, ofiliei'."-'^"
Si 1116011. Iieiiit.
■luly
I knoNV the l>iivtie>
in ilii^ cause
I !iin n
.1 vehi
,tod m- ivUiod to. or in the e.n
ipi'iy
HOrviee <
)t' any
of them
1 \w\ 11
)l iiilercs
.leJintheevoiitofthiMHuit.
i,w Chavlos U'
IIK
1 Uii
„.,l vole, ho t"M '"•
Uo told me thai, o"
lor Mr. Tremhlay
,,,.,,.,1, of St. Siiiu'oii, wi
tiiess esainiiiei
A in til
;au^
1 Uii )\v
(lomeslie
llial ho did
l,ai he .'.id not vole,
luit it was heeause
his tiithor did ii.it vote,
ho won
the day before the votni-
,1.1 hear from him on t
,l,„,r, Urnirtliail
lliier liad said to him
tliat it ho voted
lie twenty
■foiirtli.
that he would take away
3420
(rom h
him
all
that ho had in hi
, hamlrt.
.Iharlos r.ou.'haid U\
la nie that it wa.s m-t on
aei'oun
tol
>lod , ho
toldmothUinthcpresemeoll.l.o.l
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If Denis Uauthior had Wished t-t...i'
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The mill was n..l -t..!.,,,).! .luring' his nlisoiii'o, iiti'l ll;o iliimo;<o cuiwo'l oonHJ-tc I in thi* vaxjiM
V 'lich ho wiiM ()lilij<f.l I., piiy to Imh MubNlilult' , wl(*ii ihcro wu» a iiwiii wmilliij^ul tlu- niiH i>i i<l
■ (■iii;-<i> ■•mil I'Tiirvojiii'iil,
The |.i>-. lit .K i...-iti(.ii hiivin^i liooo ivad ..ver ti) llu; wilnonH, ho |)crNiMH Un'coin dooluriiig tlii»t
It niiituitiM tho liuih, and that hi> 'Un>n not Unnw li w lo lign hijt n/imu.
Tukcii and Nwrnii
' I'loronid, ill ojii'ri coiiit, at Mullmiti, llii.-'
5th Novuniimr, Ispi
A li Uo'TIIIKK, .1
.KHrirSJ SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION cnXTIlOVEliTKD^ELECTIOXS ACT, 1874.
Election of a Mimher fur tlir Hnnm f>t Crtnmom, for th: l-jli'cl'ir'il Uistnri <,f ('hiirtfihii.i, Miilhaa,
'iii-Afli .,.11/ of ^i/itembir, IHT'i.
Prescm .»e lion. A. B. Routhieu, J. S. V.
No. 14.
BIlASSAItD etal., Potitioni"-8,
vs.
Hon. II. L. L.\N(JKVIN, Defendant
EVIDEI^OE ON THE PART OF THE DEFENDANT
JoHoph Bouchard, njied thirty yoars, ciitium hoii-o oftK'or, of thu iiai-i.^h nf Haic ,. i'aul, lining
duly swd'ii upon the Holy Mvani^clists, dopoM'th an I saith —
1 know llio part io ill ihis caii^o ; I am not rt'lalcd, or alliiid to, or in the iMnploy or doini'sli.ji
34lOsci'vico of any of thi^ni ; I am not inti'i-.'-lcd in tlio cvcnl of thi.s Miii .
1 attended ma.ss at liaii; St. Paul evi'i-y Sunday diiriii:^ tin' I'lcciiin, and liiMivi tlui sorinoiis o|
tho etn-^j tho cure read th(^ mandate of the l>i>liop-and conimenti'd iipon ii.
I understood that the riiiv spoke oi poliiical l,iln'rali>m, thai it niiiclil heeoini) hero a.Hilant;eroii><
as in other eouiitries ; thai ii wa-. (•ondeinne<l liy the inaiidate of the l>i-hnp- and hy tho Popo.
I undor.stood ihis hoiau e the eure siiid that ('atlK)lie riilieralism was lomleti. od by the Mishops.
By politieal Liberalism I undorstaiid the Liln,Tal party in I'raiiee, whieh lias .lone so mueh
misehief ; 1 undersi.i; I it to be the party of those who sjieak evil of tlio elerjry, and who hold tals'j
political principle
I
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t'^itiwj
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(U- iMiliticiil Liberalism 1 Jiil tiol ui\aor>tiir.(i that llio cine npilu' <.(' tlie Liiicrai party \:\
3450(";im:i'Iu, Inil of tiio Lilieral [larly in F,iiii>i)c ; atconliti'i; to mo, ilio sormoiis dI' iho euro ilid not
oliaii^'o any votes; Imt tlio icuciiti^; of llie mandate eliani,'e(i a eertain niiinljor of them; tho
iiiiuKlato was read on sovcral Sumlays; iliis niaiidatc was road for the tirst time last autumn ; ami
(111 laeh Sunday on wliieli (lie rme i( ad the mandate he commented upon it, and that eliunged tho
votes.
Question. He pleased tustate the i-uriil>er ol votes wlucli the loading of the mandate ehan'^ol
(hirini; the eloetion?
Answer. I cannot state proeiseiy i'i<" numl)or of votes this readini,' changed during tho
olcetion?
t^uostion.— Please name the parlies whoso votes Iho reading id' tin: mandate ehanged during
3400 the election.
Answer.— AugU'^tino Troml-lay and his sons, to tho number of throe or four; 1 Unow that
boeauso Augustine Tromblay t(.ld me so in the presence of his son .lacob.
CUOSS-F.XAMINEI).
Tho cure spoke of the niaiidalo du.-ing tho whole linio of tiie olcetion ; I believe that ho
commented upon the last part in his sermon of the sixtoentb.
UE-EX.\MI.NEI).
I know Alfred Duiour, a witness examined in this cause.
During tho c'oelion ho was on tho side of tho Dolendani; it was ho liim^olf that told mo so.
(Juostion. Please state wliotlior Alfred Dufou'' had a convor.salion with the Defondtint during
SWnho elections at Thoophilo Simar.l's homo, and say what you know ali ..it it ?
Answer. — I knmv nolldng about this.
I aE-CUOSS-KX.VMI.NEI).
Major Dafour might have worked tor .Mr. Tiv a- at the commetieoment of tho election,
and I know nothing about it personally.
Tho ]u-csent deposition having been read over to the witness, ho jieisist.-. therein, declaring thO
same to contain the truth, and hath signed.
JOS. HOUCUARD.
Taken anil sworn
before me, in open Court, at Midbaie, this
6th September. 1870.
A. B. UouTniBn, J.S. C.
f
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124
rmh.eroMJaob,.c, I SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
Election of a Member tor the Wmm- of rommon.% for the Electoral District of CharleiHux, Malbai;
the i)lh day of September, 18TU.
Present— The Hon. A, B. RoUTlilER, J. S. C.
s
No. 14.
BRASSATID, ct. nl., Pclitioucrs,
T'.s'.
The Hon. H. L. Lanoevin, Defendant.
E]/IDENOE ON THE PART OF THE DEFENDANT
Emmaimcl (lira. ; a^rccl sixty-two yours, of the i)ari«h of Si. Ironco. fMnuer, l)oin<,' duly r-woi-n
ujion tho Holy Evangeliwi'. ileposctli anil saitli: —
I know tho paitios in tiru oause ; 1 am not i-elatol or allied to, or in iho employ or doraostic
lilf^O^tM-vico of any of thoni; I am not intorestcd in tlio event of this suit.
I attended mass on tho sixteenth of January last at St. Ireneo.
The pclilioro;8 admit that the witness can prove the same thin;i;s as Klie (Jirard, Alex. GirarJ,
and Jean Audci, respecting tho .sermon, of tho cur6, and as to its effect.
The witness declares that he cannot sign his name.
} ■
A. B. RouxniER, J. S. C.
Sworn hoforo me at Malbaie, this
5th August, IHTI).
•tfBIa
3490
k-Me-
125
Eroris:;:! superior court
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
Election of a Member for the House of Commons, for the Eh'ctoral District of Charlevoix, Malbax;
the. 'itiidiiij of Heiiti'mber, 1H76
Present— The Hon. A. B. RouTHiER, J. S. C.
No. 14.
BllASSAUD, el at., I'etitioners.
vs.
Hon. H. L Lanoevtn, Defendant.
EVIDEI^CE ON THE PART OF THE DEFENDANT
Goorge Girard, sailor, of the parish cfSt. Irerieo, boing duly sworn upon tlio Holy Kvangolists,
dcpoi^oth and saith : —
I know tho parties in this cause; I am not related or alliwl to, or in the employ or domestic
service of any of them ; 1 ain not interested in the event of this suit.
r attended mass on the sixteenth of January hwt, at St. IreniSe.
3490 Tho petitioners admit that this witness can prove the same things as l',lle t'irarl, A!oxandr«
(iirard and Jean Audet, as to the cure's sermon, and as to its etfect.
The witness hath signed.
(IHORCiK (UKAKI)
Taken and sworn
before me, in open (lourt, at .Mall)aie, this
5th September, 187C.
A. R. UoDTlIIEH, J. S. C.
i;
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3510'
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i;;:;:i:;':.r s;::;;. i s u pe r lo r co u rt.
DOMINION OONTliOVEliTKI) KLICOTIONS ACT, 1974.
I'li'ft'iin of a MciiihiT f'lr lln' Jlousf of i 'ominous, for the H'rrtontl IHatrirt nf i'lutrleooi.c, \talhnit,
the Mh iliiif / Siftemlitr, IS"(|.
I;,.s.'iit— Th.' Hon. A. B. llouTillEii, J. S. C.
No. 14.
niiASSAIU) I'/ III.. P.-titioiiers,
1 's.
Tho lion. H, li. liAVdKVi.v, Defendant
I EVIDENCE ON THE PART OF THE DEFENDANT
Liic Simriiil, 111,'t'il thirl y-.-t'\t'n yi'iirs, t'oiviniiii. of tho parish of U.iio St. I'aul, Ihmii/j; duly swoin
ii|ic>ii tho Ilidy livaii,i^clist.-<, il(.'|io->i'th ami saitli :—
I know the |iartii',. in this cause; I am ni)l rehitod or allieil to, or in th<! ihmioMtic service ol
!iri\- orthcni; I have i.n iiilorcKt iu llie result of this suit.
I altciuled mass (^vcry .S 'inlay al ISaie 8f. Paul ilurini; tho eleetJDti.
Tho euro read the ti.au l.ilc picco-incal, tor several Sundays, and (^x|ihiined it.
1 know .lean Lainui-lic. the t'alliernt Xavier r-aTOiiclie, the* laKer havirii^ heeii (xaniineil in iIhh
I 35l)0'"'u^ei he is very old and deal'.
The euro, on the si.\-te<'nih ot'Jainiary, eommont'od It^' s]ieakirii; ol tho ]iustoral visit whieh ho
had just made ; this visit is made every year at tho beginning of'January, and this year tho cur6
made it as usual.
IFo said that he had leen favorably reeeivcd ovorywlici'o ; tlu^n he added that it [lained him to
hear it i^aid that thert^ weri; some who spoke evil of the priests.
There wore scjtne peoiile in the parisli who spoko hadly ah )Ut the priests, I have he.ii'd thorn
say myself that tho priests wont too far.
Then ho made allusion to the tilhe ■i'K), saying that there w 're some wli > spolvo against ih.)
(lime; that tlKw/('/Hi' (lughi to he always fr i ; that if it was aholishol the Slate would pay ii,
IjgKjthat charity would suiVer trom this,
Jlo spoko neither about tho Delendaiii or Mr. Tromblay, nor ali mi the t.'onscrvativo or Ijiheral
parties; I tmJordtood that I ho cure spoke about Catholic Liberalism to put us on our guard against it.
As to Catholie Liboralism, ho sjjokc ol' the ovils that it had e.iusol in tho old countries ; he
eompareJ Catholic Liberalism to the .serpent.
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Tlio nimlyHiM of tho ■o'ltn.m oi iho ("iiru Sirnis (Ditondunt'n Kxliil.ii Ni>. 2) liiiviii)f boon ri'ul
uviT to tiH', I >li'cliiro timt thin 'I'mlj'^is tiiiilv loiilaiiiH tlio hciiso oI llio noriinin nl' tho nixtootitli of
.liiiiiiMfy; this ri'iidiiii; miuUih iiu' riiinomlKir wdII IIui toiior of tlio Horiivm ; aii'l llii- uimly-<i-< roriluiin*
till' i4iib.-.luiii'i) ((fit ; it in Hli'ilv.n^';.
'I'lio ciiio (IM noi toll mo lliui ii wai^ n ca-' orcoii-<cicrMO to voto t >{■ llio Ijlionil (lurty.
(Vjii IfoatoncK Hui.l. '• i iiavc lie iian> ; .iilo a,i',.i'illii ; ti yoiii- c piiMioiioo, i nli,,'litonoil by Ui.j
Muitiiliili) 1(1' yoiii' lli>liii|)^."
I iliti not, nmloi^laihl lliat tlh-curo saidlliatil wa* iifCfMary to votii Lirlln' DolL'tiiiani ; iliiit if
pcoplo V .ted liir Mr. 'I'loinblay "r lii-i imriy, it ini;,'lit iiijuro rolij,'ii>n ui- .lo^jrado it; llii.'* coiil.J
iiiil lio inri'iTod I'lDiii llio Mriiiniis ul llio iiiro ?
llo'lid !iot .-ay llial h>- v. Iim \...cmI I'...- lb ■ l.llM'ial i.aviy. ("i- imo imrly ot Mr. Trciiililay, would
liu royai'doJ uh a bad ('alhulir,
JIo did not Hay, in spoakin;; ..I ilu' labcial party, ..f id.' party ol' M . 'r.riul.iay nor ^'ivo it to
Ic iiiiilorstood tbat liiis parly i,'lidod liNo a voiicMin.m hoi pout, a;H| iluiin ilioon.lil woiil.i Hoizrt
upon tho ]>rioslh; Ibal it would crawl in blood.
'Jb'M) llo npoUcoC Ibc sorpoiil, in :.poakiiij.j of ("alliiilii- l.iboialiMii, a- I hialnl.
Tbo euro did not -ay, tioi'irivo il to bo iii;dorr<lood, tbat tiioic was any daii'^cr in votiii;.,' (o tbo
parly of Mr. Treniblay.
Tbo our6 said Ibal lliuri' w,'r>' s'hiio [/iboral Calliolios in tbo ooiintry, bin bo did not hpi^aU uC
Mr. 'rromblay.
lie sail tba. tbo -aino oaii.os whioh bad broiij^lit on Ibo rovolulioii in i'lurupo, niii^bl. probion
ibo ,-anioolVoots boiv, and bo lold us to mistrust il.
1 dill not uiHbostand tlial tin: oiirc^ said, or ,!^avo it to bo iindorslond, ibal tbo liiboral jiarly w.M
oondoinnod by Ibo inaiidaU', and liodid not cxiilain it in Ibo sonso lli.il ibo oliiirob oondoimio I tbo
Fiiboral jiarlv ; af'.or llio-o o.\p!aiiations. Ibo oiiro :javo ovory ono lib.'; :y lo volv for wb'iiiisoovor
,'(;"> ||) lln'3' wished.
'I'lio (Miro did U'll s;i/ lii.a' ihoso \vli.> bud jiisi, spolvon in lavnr .jI' Mr. Troiublay wore falso
propbols ; he said that ah uit th >so wlit) sproa I diwordoriiif,' dootrino.s ; that iboso woru tbo pooplu
who wisliod to sipanito ilio whopliord from hi> tiook ; I did not undoistaiid thai tho curd said, o.
iravo it lo bo iindorstood, b^ tho pi'ojilo, that tlioy oiiirjit not to liston to tlio.-e wlio spoko for Mr.
Tioinblay ; 1 undorslood Ih.i; bo spoko in a ,i,'onoral inannor, and in Ibo .-.iiiio spirit as ibo mandate.
Tho cure spoko of Cluv-tr-, and iiolol laL-o ('brists.
Ho spoko of Chri.-ts, I boliovo, rolbrriiiLC to (lormaiiy, ihat (!od could woU protect bis (■^hrisls.
Ho did not say that the lino -poakors who caiiio lo sjicakon behalf of Mr. Tninblay should nol.
bo listenod to, and that the people .-hould li.-ten to him and the other piio<t.- and cures ol' llio county
a5,J0 The euro said that we should barken to him at election times as at all other liuies.
He meant to say. 1 put you un ymir <i;iiaril ai^ainst tho jiarty of I'albolie Liberalism; you
should listen to me.
At tho beginning of his sermon, the cure told the ehuieiiwaidcns not to allow any one to speak
at the cbureb door; that the people were too n>ucb excited; that there was danger of trouble aris
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in(»; ill fai't thiTf whs (lmii.'cT nl' IroiiMo uririiiit nn thril Siiii'lny , I ili'l ii'il und. r-<laiii| lluil iIkiiii
wliM liiiil voliul Ciir Mr. 'rimnlilay or Kin |iar(_v ' niiM ri!;,'rist it lu-ri'iiCU'r, md lliul lin wmilil liuM
tlii'iii III ucciiiint I'ltr it nn llit>ir liltMtll•lM<'l^'
i'lu' I'liii', ill llio oinion 1(1' Uk' Hi:<luoiitli, 'li'l ii.ii lulvihc ilu' i In iiirs In n>iiii Mr 'I'ri'iiililay
awiiv. UN lio liiiii-i'ir liwl iId'hi,
I ijiij iKit iindoislaiiii 111" <'iiiV> lo •.iiy lliiil If llii'V vmIc(1 I',,,- ^Il•. Tri'inliluy nr ilm LiluTiil |nirl.y,
ihi^ piii'ly NVuiilil tuki' a\Miy ilu- <Hmr IVmii tin' [iriiMis,
Kili'iiij; llii- I'loctiidi llll^ riiri' (lid iMil iiii\ isf ||u) oIi'im ir-i In rtrmi Mr. 'riciii lay .iway, an lni
hiiii^oirlmd ilono; liio riiru did iiiil xiiy, or ;4;i\tt it lo Iki imdjM'Mnnd, thai tlioso wlin votid I'nr miotif
llit'candidatOH would cominit a sin, and that tlioso wlio voicil 'drlli(> l.ihfral |iurly would ijo Mei/.cd
witli I'uiiuirso on llieir dfiilli-licd-.
Tlio ciir6did not wiy ihui ilu'y iMi^'la |.i ni'i'lvo .Me. Tri'inliluy, or iho I.ilicnil (•nrididutc, in
;n nlatu'o willi llio »'.>c|)laiial mhi- wliicli lio dad i,'ivoii il.s; ln' diil ii((t irJvc it lo In' iiiid,Tt.|niid llial
..111' ol' llio caiidiilaU's wax a liilu'ial Calliolic.
Ill) did not say, or ;rivo il tu li(> iindcrslnod, Ihul mii' ol llii^ I'aiidiiuUi-i wa« ondoavoriny to
doi'civo tlium; llial iio was a Hil-u iiinplici, a liilsi- ( 'In i .'.
In all ids sermons, I ilid lot imdorstand tlial tlio iMiro wi-^lu'd lo s|>(!il< aiC:iinsl Mr Tri'inlilay,
and injiiru his ulcction; lait I iindorstood thai lie wislicd to [)Ul us on our i^iMi'd a^raiiist tliu doclriiiu
of Catholic liiliiTuli.sin ; luMJid iiol jrivo it to lio uiidur^toou lliulthi' inandatu ciindcnUKid tlio liil)orul
|iaity, llio |iarty oC Mr. 'rrcnililay.
'Tiic cure, diiriiit; ihc la-l cliiclion, did not pi'oach inoro htroiiirly than diirini,' llio local election
111 \^'Jt; indeed, I loiind tlial he s|ioke nion! sti'oni^ly in I.ST.'i; in I.SVf). Mr. Onc-itne (iiiiilhier and
Siiiiciiii Xavior ( Mmon were ilic candidates ; Nfr. Oauthior was considein I to he ijie Ijihcral laiidi
dale, and the parish voted llir liiin in a liody.
Mr. Tienililay su|i|)iirled .Mr. Oiiesinui (Jaiithier ; the curd spuke alinosi as he did diirini;^ the
hist election ol' \i<l!> ; the sermons of the cure have in no way chaiiijcd.
The i;rc'atcr pari oT llie (laillhicr party voted for I lie |)el'eiiil:int.
The party atjiiiiisl .Mr. rrcmhiay was slroii,i,'er at the liei^iiiniiii^ ot .liiuiary lhai> at the (dose of
the (dection, at h'ast their demonsiralion was .-.tronL^er. I mean lo speak of tlie deiiiniislration
wlii<di to(d< place at the end ol Decenilier last. .Mr. (iaulhicr proposed tin' eandilaiiire of a Con
M'l'viitive, .Mr. IjUiiLrevin, an I almost every ijody approved of it. It w:is mi ;i loli l.iy ; all the
jieople were ^atliei-ed to;,fetiK.!- lit the church doors. My o|)iiiioii is ihil the seriiions of the cure
did not clianj^o tlio soiitiiuciits oi a siii;.;le elector. 1 reside at tiic place called "/ids Jc la
Hale ;" in this place the s-eniioiis ell'ected a ciiaii^'c in no one.
I think that what contrili I'ed most ot all in ifiviii^ a majority ti the Dofen laiit, in Ha'o St.
II')'!!) I'aul was the inllucDie e.xerti^ 1 hy Mr. <")iie^iine (laulhier.
Then, Uijain, the people had sii^'iicd a [ titioii, asking; for an atiiiiosty tor iJiol and [jepiiio;
lliey said that ilr. T'reinhl.iy had vole.l ai: mist it, and this had heea doie to injure Mr. Tremhlily ;
the people of the villai,'e eoiiiplaine I of the 6)/i.s wliiidi had lieou _;iveii liieiii for work done on the
wliarl, and vowed to vote ayaiiisl .Mr. Treiiiblay.
CauStJ-EXAMINEU.
The general tenor o( the ruire's sermon was to the ctUct th.it, according; to the mandates, wo
couUl nut vote for a Liberal Catholic , I should consider that I had comniitled a sin in duiiiy aiiy-
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tiling' contrary to the mandate of my Bishop; I wouKl not consiJer Mi'. Tromblay t<j bo a Liberal
CMllu)lic', at the time of tiio election, nor before it; lam the only Luc Himanl in the parish of
3(1(10 Buie St. Paul ; I am a rentier; I sijrno.l a declaration at the request of the curd, in February last,
Ijifnrc Louis (iauthiur, Justice of the Peace, at Haie St. Paul.
The following declaration liavinj,' been read over to the witno.s.s, namely :—" We, the under-
" ,sii,r„o.l, solemnly declare tiial, in the course of la>t sdinmer, after a sermon delivered in the church
'iit'^HaioSt. Paul, by the llev. M.^ssiro Josei.h Siroi.s, touchini,' Liberalism, Piii'e Alexis Tremblay,
'• I'isiiuire, candidate at the last election, yot upon the hustings, on the land of the fahrique and
•■declared that hogreatlv approved of all that the curd had said about the Liberals, but thai it
'•coulil notetfeclhim, inasiuucl. as he himsell, tholl^'h a Liberal, was alx, a ('alholic, and in this
" way the cure's sermon did not concern him, thus giving it to be uiidor>tood that ho was a Libeml
'• Calliolie." The witness states that ho is of oi.iiiion that this was the declaration that be signed.
3fiin'lV) the best of my knowledge what I signed then 1 bcli.ve to be ihe truth.
1 never understood, before the reading ol the mandate, what was meant by a Liberal (.'atholic,
in my opinion, there may be Liberal Catholics as well among the Coiiscrvatives as among the
Lil)eials.
liuestion.— You stated in this declaration that Mr, Tremblay gave you to uiider>taiid last
summer that he was a Liberal Catholic, and you now say that you did not know, at I be lime Mr.
Tremblay spoke, what a Liberal Catholic was; you have, therefore, made an inaccuiaic ,-taicnient
Answer.— Wo did not know it exactly, but we knew, at least we belieTed, that it had thin
bearino • I did not believe, that at the lime of the election last winter, that Mr. Tremblay leaned
in ihis''(lirecti(m, the mandate not having then been explained to us; 1 understood when Mr-
■^,;.>„ Tremblay addressed us, that he was a Liberal Catholic, the mandate not having been then explained
to us ami we were n..t enlightened upon it ; the cure spoke of Catholic Liberalism as strongly,
if „„'l P so last summer than during the election, but I do not too ^^ell remember whether >t
wis Catn ,0 Liberalism or an.^her Liberalism he spoke of last summer; he |.ut us on our
.n'nrd u..ainst bad jirinciples which might introduce themselves; I am contident that, at tho
riMie ot Mr Tremblay's address in the summer of 1R75, 1 was uiaier the impression that Mr.
Tromblay was a Liberal Catholic; Mr. Tremblay delivered this address, of which I have spoken,
aiirin- the election of Mr. (iauthier in 1875, at least this is my impression.
In his sermon on Christmas day, or about that time, the cure spoke about the visit which one
of the candidates had made him.
mo At that time Mr. Langevin was not in the county ; 1 swonr that I did not understand that tho
curd meant to ^peaic ol' .Mr. I'remhiay ; I did not know at the time that Mr. Tremblay would offer
himself; there was a rumor to that otfect.
At the time when the cure spoke in this way, I do not remember that there was any other
...ndidate but Mr. Tremblay in contemplati.m ; I do not remember if Mr. ttauthier hacl then
announced to us the candi<laturo of the Defendant, of Mr. Kane, or Mr. Clement. The cure said
that if he h!ul been at home ho woukl have told this candidate that he (the cure) was not more on
his side than he was two years before.
When tho cure told us that to beware of those people wlio had come, or might come, from a
distance to toll us things which would not be in accordance with the mamlato, I understood that
36-10 he spoke of those who came for this election, or might come for other elections ; 1 did not
understand that ho meant to say that about those who should come for Mr. Iremblay, or tor yiv.
Langevin.
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Qiiewtion. — About whom iliil you undorNland lliat ho said thin?
Answer. — I uuflcr.stood thai Ihoro might como Koino of those Libural C.itholicH wlio might.
|irciich Homotliing ovil ; [ am convincoil that I understood the cure well ; frankly, I did not ata:l
III! {(s-^taiul ihiit till- ciro'H sermon rcii'rrod to tlio oloeiion then in iiuostion.
i5y ohu'tion, 1 mean to say tiiat the euro did not iniko any roferoneo to the men wlio were
can li(hitos ; the cure spoko Willi rctsjio •! to tli s oK'.c-i,ioii ; I undur-'tood lli:U thi! cure put us on our
guard iigainst a certain hocI, ("alhulic Lilmi'alisin.
%i)<) Question. — Did you 'indiir-laii 1 th;it Iho euro s(,.-Uei lii:it it was wisuc I, during the oUciUoii
il>olf, to inihue you with disliirhing doeli'ines 'f"
Answer. — I did not iindei^t.-md it --o.
(Question. — Did you unJorsUind the analysis of the cure's sermon, (Defen hint's I"]xhi!>'t Xo. 2)
which you staled this morning contained the cure's sermon ?
Answer. — Yes.
(Question. — It i.s jjointed out to the witness that the analyses of the sermon which he re<v)gni7,o.i
to be correct, Hpeaks in the iiresent tense, and not in the future oi' cou'liiional, regarding those who
ili-.seininatod di.sfirdering doctrines, and he is asked where the triiili is to he found, \viu>ther in the
analysis of the sermon, or in what he has Just said ?
n-j .n .Vnswer. — If the analysis sjyeaks in the present tense, and gives it to he undcrslo)! that ai
l!iat very moinenl pernicious doctrines were licing s|)read about, it is inc.xaia; ami I uiulerstood
that the cxpressiotis referred to peojiie who might come thereafter to disseminate pernicious
doctrines.
(Jiir cure always sjieaks loud anil rather rapidly ; he preached on the si.xlocnth of January for
one-half or thieequarters ot an hour; [ voteil for .Mr. Tiemhlay at the election in 1874; since
lasL summer I commenced to withdraw myself from his parly, as others did ; I found that Mr.
TiHrnihlay adhered too much to things which we did not like; [ swear that I did not state to .Mr.
'Premblay Itist summer that I was in his favor, at least I do not remembei' it.
1 undi'rslood when the cure spolce of Christs, that he meant to s|ieak of priests and bishops,
;j(;70and I understood that we ought to follow what the ])riests said, as being what .lesus (!hrist had
said, 'oecauso they formed the hierarchy.
I unlerslood th;it the cure's sermons, instead of having given votes to Dofcnd.ant, had rather
taken some away; I did not at all heed the influence of the clergy; I swear Ihat i never said to
I'^l/.ear Danais that without the support of the clergy thoDefondant would have lost his election ; 1
swear further, that I did not say to Klzear Danais, lately, that it was from se(!ing the clergy
opposed to Mr. Trc:nblay that I turned against him.
Tho present deposition having been read over to the witness, he persists therein, decdaring tho
satno to contain the truth and hath signed.
LUC SIMARD.
Taken and sworn
before mo, in open Court, at ilalbaie, this
(Jth fcseptember, 187(J.
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liUtrict of SiiBUCuoy. \ ^^
DOMINION OONTllOVERTED ELECTIONS x\OT, 1874.
K,rnon of a Member ior ike. House of Co,n,nons, for ike Electoral District of Ch.rlevoir, MaU.u^
'^ ^ thedth day ut September, 1S70.
Present— The Hon. A. B. RouTiiiEU, J. S. C.
No. 14.
BRASSARD, et. al., Pelitiouers,
The 31on. II. L. LANaEViN, Defendant.
EVIDENCE ON THE PART OF THE DEFENDANT
Alfred alias Frild Trcmblay, sur.uunod Bastio.., aged twenty-oij^l.t .year, farmer ..( the ,,ari. fv
3680..fSt. Simeon, being duly «m.rn upon the Holy Evangelists, dopo^oth and sa.lh-
1 know the parties in this cause ; I am not related or allied to, or in the employ or domestio
service of any of them ; I am not interested m the eventof this suit; I know Joseph Cha.nho lad,
a witless examined in this cause l,v the Defendant; at the last oleetion he was one of Mr.
Tromblay's adherents.
I know (-harles Bouchard, of St. Simeon, farmer, a witness examined in this c-au>c ; 1 do not
know fin- whon. he was at the last election ; he told mo that he had not v,>ted, because a .i.d not
suit him, and that Denis Gauthicr had never prevented his voting.
CROSS-EXAMINED.
It did not surprise me to see that he had not voted, because when he was with "-.•;;;';;;';';'*
3e,0 appear that he waJ for the Defendant, and when he was with the Rou^^es he m d it ip km, ^at ho
'"'".•^sforMr.Tremblay; it w..s I who asked him why he had not voted -;''";'"*
occasion : " Mr. Denis Uauthier has not hindered you from voting, has he ? He answccd, no.
The r-esent deposition having been re.ad vo the witness, he persists therein, declaring the
same to contain the truth, and that ho does not know how to sign hm name.
Taken and Sworn ")
before me, in open tJourt, at .Malbaio, this ^
6th of September, 1870. J
A. B. RouTUiER, J. S. C.
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DOMINION CONTROVKUTKD ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
HMinn of a Member fur the House of ('o,mw,n>^, for the Hhrforal Di.^lrirt of Ch<irl,.t>oi.v, Mulhui*,
the nth Se^itember, IfS't!
Present— The Hon. A. B. RouTiilER, J. S. C.
\q 14 BRASSARD, el al., retitioners.
The Hon. H. L Langevin, Defendant.
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EVIDEII/GE OI]l THE PART OF THE DEFENDANT
Umcr Bouchard, iii^'cd Iwciity-nino years, day laborer, of llio parisli ,,f Si. Simo )ri. Iieiii;; duly
Huc.i'ii 111)011 (lie Holy Kv:iiii;vli>ts, dei.or,otli and saitli: —
1 know the parties in tliis cause ; [ am not rol;.tol or allied to, or in tlie oinpl .y or domestic
h.T\ico of any of tlioin ; I am not interested in the event of this suit.
I know Charlos BMudiard, of the pirisii of St. .Sim'3 )n, a witness examine 1 in thi-.'anse; ho
told me that he had not voted at I ho last election, l.eeause he <lid not know what his father's opinii.n^
37(10 wore.
Ohjection taken to all ..viiUvieoahout statements made hy Charles l5ouidiard, and to whi.di Id'i
attention was not drawn when he was e.xamined as a witness.
CROSS-KXAMlNfcD.
lie told me this on the day after the voting in answer to the question which I put him, why
he did not vote? I was surprise 1 that he had not voted; 1 knew him to he a parti/.an ol Mr.
Tromhhiy; Frild Tremhlay, who has just been examined as a witne-is, is employed from lime to
time hy Denis (lauthior, "an.l I .am my.sclf al the present moment employed by the said Denis
Gauthior.
It was rumoured that Narcissc Bouchard had lost his situation because he had given ovidenco
3710 in this cause, but ] know nothing about it personally.
The present deposition having been read over to the witness, he ijer-^isis therein, delaring the
Hnmo to contain the truth, and that ho docs not know how to sign his name.
Taken and sworn ")
ufore me, in open Court, at Malb.iie, this >
(ith September, 187t!. )
A. B. RoiiTniEK, J. S. C.
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Provliiotiof (Jncbcc, )
llislrict of SatfUimay. )
SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVKRTKD KLKCTIONS ACT, 1874.
h>ctf)n of a Member for the. Home »f Commom, for the I'Vvrtonil Disln\-t -/ (Vuirkwix, MMait,
Present— Tho Hon, A. B. RoUTiiIER, J. S. (!.
lillASSAliD el al., Petitioners,
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Tho IIou. 11. L. Lanoevin, Defendant
EVIDENCE ON THE PART OF THE DEFENDANT.
Auj,'iis(o Siniai-a, a.^o.! loi-l y-nmr yciitM, fiirmor, of tlio pMi-isli of Ikiu St.. Paul, iH'injr iliily swort.
iilMHi tho IIdIv Kvanf,'clisis, (li>|ii)sotli iiiid Hiiitli :—
1 kiiDW tho piirlio.s in this osvuso ; 1 am not related or allied to, or in the emidoy or doniesti.;
service of liny of thoin; I am not interested in tiie event oftliis suit.
The I'otitioiier.i admil th:il tlii« witness ean j.rovo the contents of the >ermon, of the sixteontti
of .hmiiary, intho same waya. LucSimard, Vincoslas Tremhiay, .lo^cl,h liouch.Mrd and Ki.hrem
Hiniard, havi- proved them.
..9,) 1 siL,'ned the analvsis ol' the sermon, Defendant's Kxhihit No. 2; the cure at liie he.i,'ininf,' ol'
" (his sermm. did not complain that he had been coldly received, during his pastoral visit; on tho
conliary, ho said that he had Keen well received.
Tho other .>ermons whirh tlie cure delivered, .luring the election, were to the same effect, as tho
sermon of the si.xtoeuth ; namely, that the cure, wished to warn us, a-ainst (;athniic l,il,erali^m.
I reside in tho village of Bale St. I'aul ; all theso sermons proJucod no etlect upon the vote id
tho village, either in favor of one of tho candidates, or against the other; to the hest of my know-
ledge these sermons produced no olfoct upon the vote of tho parish ; I kn..w all the electors of Haie-
St. Paul; when 1 say that those sermons ])roducel no ollect, upon the voting, 1 base n)y opinion
upon the demonstration which had previously taUen place, about the end of December.
3781, .Mr. (iauthier then proposed to n<, the candidature of .Mr. Lan^ovin, and the parish seemed to
me, to go almost in a body for him; before this date there had been nothing said of tho candiilature of
the Defendant ; at least 1 had no knowle.lge of it; a sudden change took place against Mr. Trem-
blay ; tho wharf business had something to do with it , but tho principal cause was the inlluonce of
Mr". <). (iauthier ; tho mass of the parish had voto.l for Mr. (iauthier in the election ; in the election
of 1S7r), tho cure preaehed almost in the same manner, as be did during I he^last election j Mir.
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(iimthiorrmno forwiu-.! in hoirii,' in.lq..-n(lont ; iho DefoirliintV party w,.s f ao 1 fn-m ll.o l.o^^ii.-
iiiiij,' III' llu' contOHt.
I wii- |.r.wiil wlifnilifl>.-r..|i.luiitH|,<.k.. lit lh.M'l.uirlMl.H)r, III liui'- >t. I'lml, -m Now Y.:ii'i
,;,n . il,..|)..|Hi.li.it.iv 1, timt irt„.lii.i;.olifVo.liluilho wiwi..)tM4ii.orloll.ytliodoiKyl«owouM.,ot
.,,„|„nv mm,' int.. tl......i.i.ly ; hut \w <M .i'>l Miy llml l.ol.a.l L.^im ii«U.).l L. ^IuihI by 11... clorKy.
I know Alfri-l Tiiitoiir, ii wit!U'>^ pxumln-a in ihiMMiis,!; (Imiiif; tlic I'locllon I... ui.|.wol U
|„. (•„,. i|,o lvr..n,lMhl ; at l>-i..l, !..■ ^ccnr d >« u, m.- ; 1 n.H l.in. .ovorul tin...-, lU llu, I.m... ol
Tlu..|.hilo Si..uinl, wl.cro ilie In.foii.lanl I ..l^^..l, iin.l whoro tlio Irmn U of Mr U:i-ovin l.>.t..ok
ll,..MHolv,Hi it wiHthopl.UM.MriM.vlin- ollho iMin-iHiM-lilicial IVio..a- of Mr, \.Au:yvm n' liii:o
Si. I'aul.
IkaowHI/.rarl);iuai-,orila-.S!.lSil,iiwiiin'---x.tM>.M.lii'.H,,.^»u^oJ^^^
m„n wl.o(lnuU8.in.lHi,ouk.lMi;yot il.o ,,n,..tH , l,l,g..,KT:.l.'l.:uMr!oi i.iaa; lilnnklhatl wuuM
li'lievo him on oalli.
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bHoo Tliohivl ropiitalion of D.ui.iii oonsi-ils, ih I Irivo .ail, ia iMiii- r.-i.;!!.- 1 an a iiiau ^'ivoa t.. Iioli
,lay inakin;; liml Hpoikiui; ill ol' Mio |>ri,>.t-.; I,,,; li.' 1- n .i >..,n.ll 'ir I li^i. .a.'M ia .M.i„. a
liiHiao-s, lis tar as 1 know he is jn'i IW'lly iionoraliic.
1 ..unnot .swear that tl.o .'UM'tors rniicht aol liiivo In-mi iallu.Mi.v.l l.y llio ruruV soriaoas, Iml U)
(1,0 WA ol'iav kaowltM:.o 1 kaoA- ..f none wl.o woro; I .lo aot romoinlmr Hull Willro.l ^iiaaivl lol.l
„„. tliat l>e lia.l I'con coaverli.l l.y tlu«o sonn..as, Iml it may l.o ll.al l.o su.l s..M.othia- al...i.i it. a<.
,„y hoiisoi I .lo n(.t reimMaLor llml l.o sp-k.. lib .ui it iiL AllVu.i Dalour's -hop, but 1 riinnot swciir
thai hi) iliiJ not hjH.ak about it.
I know Vfi-y well Otavo Simar.l, rhiir. li-vvaraon orHaicSt. Paul, a witness al.e.ily exaiaii.e.l,
I i,avu no ki.owio<li;o that he iia^l been turne.l n.iin i, bat I ea t allirn. that be was not; I .lo n..<.
tjKli) think that there iiro any electors who were tame.l l»-uin^t Mr. 'I'lvn.blay an.l who eoniinucl to Miy
Unit tiiey were in his luvor.
1 know that the enre s|,..k.. on Christmiis Day of Hi') visit that a eairli.hile ha.l male him, but
I ,|„| not ua.lersiaa.l what he -ai.! about i! ; I only remember the ^'eneral tenor of the .>erm..ns ,
alU'r Ihe in^lraelions ihe eare uMVe us, 1 wouM have believe.l it lo have been a,i,miast my eonseieneo
lo vote for a Liberal Calholi,'; wlnm 1 say that I woiil I have believed it to be a,i,'aiii>t my con.seieaeo.
1 mean lo say that 1 shouM have heliovo>l liial 1 ha.l eommitted il sin by .loinir so; afler ihe.so
ii.slrnelions, only ih.-eleetors.lisposoa tocommitasin, in oivler to '-olo, eouM have vote.l for a
caiulidute eon>i(lerc.l by them to bo a liiberal (Jatholie.
It is not, to my knowle.li;-, th.it |u;'.|..le were more ilisposel to be in favor of Mr. Tremblay ut
3g:iUlhecomm.'iu'ement of the works on the wharf than befoie that time, b,,i 1 know li;;it Ibev voro
diMii)i)ointe<l,\vhon tliese works wore completed, on aceount of the manner ia whieh they were paid.
When Mr. Tremblay came to make his speech, and was met by .Mr. Tarle, he appeared to have
a sli'oni,' party in the parish.
The witness eorreels himself, sayim^' that ho is in error, anil did nol know the parlies at that
time, and did m.t see whether Mr. Tremblay ha.l u stroiifr parly; it is po.ssible that the poopio cried
" hurrah" lor Mr. Tremblay, aflei' his addre.-s.
I cannot say whether, at this dale, all the villa-o and the lias * la R.v, were or wore not in
fav.ir of .Mr. Tremblay.
s^sffls^^ps
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38M
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I U„ow ll.ul Mr. Tion.liluy .uino to npruU a. Huio St, Paul .lurin« Mr (Ju.itl.ior'M «lr.ti..M, ftipl
jH,iol'l<'""fi"'«^""''«'' "'"' l>« «lx)l<o •" l'"vor of Mr. (Jii.illiior; il.o tiling ii pcHnrhlo, Iml I lo i.-t
ri'iiiL'inbor it.
<. far »s I ,.H„ oIliTl, in \.\ . ^khh.!. at llaio Si I'ui.l, wl...„ l.o propos,.,! iho i-an,|i.latm'o m^
,l„. Dc. -ulanl, Mr, (laml.irr h ., ti. lu- l.a.l .oci, .ovrral i.up.Mta.il p.r.o.uycK at Ci...!...' a,.
ll,.-y rt.c.omino.,do,l ll.u ..a.Mi ; - of tho l.or.u,la..l ; 1 u.,.I,tMo..,. that 1m, tncant to ^pcaU -t
I'l'i'loNiiiHtiuul ptfipittiiif^t'it
(^.o..(i„r..-U it not tr..c tl.at Mr. (lautln.-r. at ll.at lu.u-. nai-l il.ai iho .lorKy, at u m«eli..« at
I.. (• SI. |»iinl, won' in ai' d upon llio rlioiro of a famlkbt^?
Answer. -Yo., I a,.. „ol p nitivo of tho t«W, hut I boli«vo Mr. (Jautl.ior .ai.l .omothi..^^ to iho
followiL elVo..r •• rn ..aso .IuIh,,. >.:.lo by th. .lor^y ^.mll not b„ .aUsllo.l by Iho o loo lor
ggtolilnormoaaio vithtl.oloo,i,.n••.lKU,■u•.«vo,n«^.un,lo,. 1 tl.ath. w.k .or tho Ud.n.laat
hv lolliiif,' mo ho; this was lowar.l-* tl.o olo-«, of the < lootion.
I wa« lor tho Dotondaut at tho eloKion \u .p.estion ; 1 spok. in his Hu . ' Y'^J'ttnomL'
,a„l . i, is very possible that 1 ^ai.l that tho iM'clnnt wu. tho .•.w.d.aato o, tl.o lew , '"«" «
it' to C-ur/iirois a,l,lrosso,l a .^w words t mo .loctors aH-sotublcl at tho , '-;; / -
Simanl, holol-Uoopor. ahoat whioh 1 "o alioady spoUon ; 1 .lo .-"••-••;>'-;; '^ "^it.
„.o of, b,.t I .....lorstoo,! that ho spoUo in (avn,- of tho Dofondant ; th.... who wo.o m,hI alnntt tbn
«lootion all know that tho cnir6 was opposo.l to Mr. Trorablay.
RE EXAMINBD.
It was aaor tho voting th.tt tho cur6 ucl.lrosso.1 a fow wonls to . nu- oloo, a, I stated in .ny
3850cross.oKa,nimiti ..I ; I boliovo that tho Dofor.dant was proso.a, but 1 .1 -o-t roou -ct
Tho prosontdoposilion having been n- 1 over to tho witneH«, ho persists iho, n, .„, m^ that
tho saino I'outaiuB tho truth, and hath ru;iK ^^^, ^,y,|,|,,
Takon and sworn
before ino, in open (Jourt, at Malbaio, this
tJthof Soptomher, I87(i.
A. H. llouTiiiEa, J. S.
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o^7.;ro,ireo:;'. ! superior court.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
lilection of a Meviber tor the House of Commons, for the Electoral District at Ckirlevoix, Malbau
the C)th day ot September, 187tj. '
Present— The Hon. A. B. Routuier, J. S. C.
No. 14.
BRASSARD, et.al., J'elitionois,
vs.
The Hon. H. L. Lanoevin, Defendant.
EVIDENCE ON THE PART OF THE DEFENDANT
Xnvior Trcmbl.'iy, farmer, ayod tl.irtj -nix years, of the parish of liaio St. Paul, hoin.' .Inly
eworii upun the Holy Kvaiigelists, deposoth and Huith :— '^ ■>
1 know the parties in thi.s cause; J am not related or allie.i to, or in the oniplov or domestic
Bcrvicu of any of thorn ; I am not interested in the event of this suit.
I live at the place eallod I« Goudronnerie, where there are about twenty electors; at thi^
place the '.nii e's sermons produced no effect ; the electors of La Goudro.inerio decided to vote a.^ain-t
Mr. Tremhiay in the spring or winter of 1875, about Fel)ruary or March; before this timo'^they
38G0wcre in tavor of Mr. Trembly; Mr. Tremblay in h=,s election had promise i an am,iest>- full an i
complete; we had signed a petition aski.ifr for this amnesty ; and Mr. Trembly had not voted for
a full and complete amnesty a.s he had promised us; It wiw this which turned the elector.s of La
Goudronnerie against him; to my knowledge, this affair produced the same elfoct upon the other
jiortionsof the jiarish
I do not think (hat the cure's sermo?»s had produced any effect upon the remainder of the
parish.
1 know Xapoleon Potvin, farmer, of Bale St. Paul ; the day but one before the voting heshoweij
that ho was for Mr. Tremblay ; on the day of the voting, on my arriviil after my journey, fmet him at
the house of the widow of Boniface Cimon, to which wo ha.l betaken ourselves after having voted i
38701 made the remark to him that lie was now fWund among us. and (hat hehal always caused^himself
to be reckoned a partisan of Mr. Trembhiy; thereupon he answei'ed, " that was on account of my
"brothers, wfio were in favor of Mr. Tremblay; as for- me, I knew what I had to do;" I under-
htood from this that he had voted for Mr. Langevin, but he d:"d not tell me so.
Mr. Gauthier had proposed to us the candidature of Mr. Langevin towards the end of
December; he asked ua if wo wished to accept him; that if we did not wish him, we should choso
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a camlidato to oppose Mr. Tretnblay ; in my opinion, looking at the «how of l.amlH which then
toolv place, tho parish doclarcd aj,'aiii8t Mr.Tromblny in wuch a way as to frivo a majority of ono
hundred and fifty to ono hundred and sixty; and this party romai cd almost tho same for Mr.
Lauf^evin.
1 lu.ow VA'/Mr D:inais; his goiioral character i.s that of a Muiiup, from the Kdicral character
given him, I would not believe him on oath.
CH0S8-EXAMINEI>.
in the matter of business tranr-actions, I should take him to bo an honest man, and I w(.uld
believe him on oath ; but in a matter of reli-ion, as ho docs not believe in the religion of Curd
(iinf,M-as or Curd Sirois, I would not believe him on oath; by a scamp 1 mean a man who does not
believe in tho principles of religion of the Cure (rin-ras ; a drunkard, 1 mean by drunkard a man
who becomes intoxicated and commils scandalous acts.
Tho scandalous actions which Danais comnuts, when drunk, is that ot speaking against the
pi'iosts.
3890 I consider as scamps, everyone not bclicvinir in the religion of Cure Ginj^'ras, although calling
themselves Catholics; I believe that at tho present moment Uanais says that he believes in the
Catholic religion.
I swear that I have never taken sulKcienl drink to lose my wits ; I have taken sufficient of it,
twice a year, to make me jolly.
1 do not consider myself as at all being a scamp; I have always respected myself
I have myself spoken against tho Cure Giiigras; 1 said that he ought not to have built a new
church ; Dantiis is a municipal councillor for IJaie St. Paul.
When ho was elected he was not as well known as ho is to-day ; he drank at that time, but ha
did not spoak against tho prients, as ho does now.
39l>0 Question.— Is it not true that at IJaio St. Paul you are considered a worthless fellow ?
Answer. — No.
(Question.— Is it not true that at Bale St. Paul you are considered at the last election to have
cold yourself for a glass of brandy, or for some other liquor ?
Answer.— This is not the case ; there are some who say it. but it is false.
Tho majority against Mr. Tremblay, which I ascertained when Mr. Gauthicr proposed the
candidature of tho Defendant, was according to the number of mon which 1 saw in the crowd; I do
not believe that in calculating tho majority alrciuiy mentioned, 1 "i!vdo an error of fifty votes ;
I may have made an error of twenty votes.
Question. — Did you count one by one, those who wore there ?
3910 Answer. — No.
Question.— How then can you be so sure that you did not make an error of more than twenty
votes ?
Answer.— It w.-vs by judging from those I could count in tho ranks, who were at the church
door, and from those I could see.
Question. — llow were you able to see thom?
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Answer.— It wafi fVom the men that I know at the church door ; wo npoke among oiirsclvcH,
and iii^kcd Huch a ono, and hucIi a one, for whom ho wont ; I do not roinembor all those to whom I
hnoko in thiH way ; thoro was too f^roat a crowd ; we spoko amonf,' ourselves ; those whom I can namo
,„•.' Marc Kortin, Mederic Bouchanl, Joseph Simard, llildeherl Ticnihlay, ('ieopho Simard; they
3920^,,, ailthat I can ron.omlHT; it is from what the>e pooi)le lold nic, and from what 1 could see,
thai I estimated tho majority which 1 have mentioned.
Question.— The witness is asked, whether Mr. tiaiilhier, when ho proposed tho candidature of
d the fWllowin-,' words, '• The clergy having' met lo^'clher
the Delendanl at Haie Si. I'aul, protioiiiicci „
"Hi Haie SI. I'aul, and having agreed uimn the choice of a candi.late, have commissioned me U,
" submit this choice to tho approbation of tho other members of tho clergy, ami of tho elecU.rs of
" Charlevoix ?"
Objected to bv the Delendaiit, as tending to prove a system of general undue clerical intluenca
and that such proof cannot he niadf, ai'coi.iifig to the jiarticular.s.
Objection reserved until ihe hearing on iho merits.
3930 Answer.— Yea, in the same speech Mr. Gauthior stiid that, in la-c the ••hoi.o made by the clergy
should not bo ratified by tho electors, we might ourselves chose a (•untlidale, and that he would
support him.
When the Defendant camo to announco his caudidaUiro al Biio .Sc. I'ual, lie sialo 1 tiial he bad
tho support of the clergy.
I hoard .t said on several oec^wions, that it was a pity that Danais spoke against tho priests,
because ho was a man always ready to do a service.
I do not remember that 1 had any accident inconsistent with cha.stity before my marriage.
It may bo that the cure's sermons bad an otfoct without my knowing il, but this is not to
ray knowledge.
3940 I was not in tho parish on tho day of the sermon of the sixtoenth of January, and I only
arrivci there on tho day but ono before the voting ; I was absent from the third of January, and
do not know what took place in the • '-ish in tho interval.
Tho present deposition having Leon read over to the witness, ho persists therein, declaring tho
same to contain tho truth, and hath signed. XAVIKR TREMBLAY
Taken and sworn |
before nie, in open Court, at Malbaie, this >
(ith Seplombor, 1876. )
A. H. RouTiiiER, J. S. C.
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Province of Quebec, J
District of Sagrucuuf , (
SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVmiTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
Klertion of a Member for the House of Commomfor tl^ EleM District of CharUvoir, MalboU,
' the 6th (litij (If September, \^U>.
— 1 m ^ *
Present— The Hon. A. B. RoUTiIIER, J. S. C.
BRASSARD et al., Petitioners,
\'s.
The Hon. H. L. Lanoevin, Defendant
EVIDENCE ON THE PART OF THE DEFENDANT.
Cleophe Simard, aK>d forty two years, farmer, ot the parish of Haio St. Paul, being ,iuly sworn
upon the Holy EvangclistH, depo.sotli and saith :—
I know the parties in this cause ; I am not related or allied to, or in the employ ordomest.o
gorviee of any of them ; 1 am not interested in the event of this suit.
The Petitioners admit that this witness can prove the same things, as to the sermons of the
3950 curd, and as to their eftoct, as the witnesses already examined, to w.t :-^ n.cesas Tremblay.
Ephrem Simard, Joseph Bouchard, Luc Simard, Auguste Snnard an.l Xavier Trembhu.
1 attemlcd church on the sixteenth of Jat.uary at the timoof the sermon of Cure Sirois, and on
the other Sundays during the election.
The present deposition having been read over to the witness, he persists therein, declaring th«
eamo to contain the truth, and hath signed.
CLEOPHE SIMARD.
Taken and sworn "J
before me, in open C.iurt, at Malbaie, this V
6lh Sept., 187(5. J
A. B. RoUTHIER, J. S. C.
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rroflnce of Qocbec, ) T TS^T yj-JE SUPERIOR COURT
DOMINION (X)NTKOVEUTKI) Kf.KCTlONS ACT, 1874
HIertionof a Member for iUe H,me of '•umm,m. for the Kh'rtoral IhMrcrt of Cluirleooix, MMh,v*,
Ihf nth (liiij of Srittcmber, IH76
Present— The Hon. A. H. Routhirr, J. S. C
No. 14.
BRASSARD, et ah, PHtitioners.
r.s.
The Hon. H. L Lanoevin, Defendant.
E\/IDE^OE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
Tholesphorc Fortin, notury, of the parish of la Buie St. Paul, bcin^ .iuly .worn on tho Uoly
KvanyoliHlc, dopofuth and sailh : —
1 know tho parlie- in thi« cau.o ; I am neilhor a relative, nor a conneclion. nor a Hervant, nor
u domestic of any of ti.eiu ; I Imvc no inleie>.t whatever in tho result of this .suit.
WA Tho PctitionerH admit that thi.. witness will prove the Mime thin-«, in rolati.m to tho sermons
and to their cflcetH, as VinceslasTremblay, l-^hrem Simard, Luc Simard. Joseph liouchard, Au-usl«
Simard, ana Xavier Trenihl'iy.
1 know Alfred Dutour, a witness examined in this cause; I do not know tor whom ho was dur-
ig the election.
CROSS-EXAMINED.
When Mr Gauthier came to BaioSt. I'aul to propose Mr. Langovin as a candidate, he said that
he had .onsulted some of the gentlemen of the clergy on the subject of the choice of a candulate but
ho did not Bay that he had been deputed by them to submit their choice to tho electors; 1 thu.k ho
let it be understood that tho.-e of tho clergy whom he had consulted were in favor oi tho Delondant,
3970 ii the olectors approved of the choice, or something in that sense.
Question.-Did Mr. Gauthier, during the election, say or let it be understood, that he had had
conversations on the subject ol' the elections with any ecclesiastical personage?
Objected to by tho Dclv ,.,.mt.— Ist, As tending to prove facts not ])ertincnt to the issue ; 2nd, To
being evidence by hearsay; lird, To prove a general system of undue inlluence ; 4th, Tho name ot
tho witno-sH is not in tho particulars as having been intimidated or corrupted by O. Gauthier.
Objection reserved on the merits.
Answor.-Yes; about tho end of December, 1 think, ho told mo that ho had s].oken of the
choice be had to make for the county to Vieur General Oassoault, or perhaps to some other gentle
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„„.„ ..f 11,0 clorgy of (ho Arcl.bUliopV I'ular.r u, I Mr u. (luull r «uvo mo I.. nt,.lei-Hliii> I iLi" '»"»
.Wuimi,.,, 1,0 hml inmlo hn<l boon opprovwl \>y I'' ' ' ''">■
'riii-* (loiiimitioii linviiii; bt>in;i roml l'>
till' ti-uth, mill iiadi hij;i>c(l.
■48. Ill' [If
.,,1 tI iri"* lli:il II loi'.aitii
1,^ 1 IN.
TuktMi ami hwnni ^
liitiiro mo, ill open ('miit, al Malliaii'. Ilii^ .-
(Jlli day ot'Seplc'inlifr, IH'ti. )
A. R. UoiTiiiKii, .1 a.v.
V. .., lun. «i «inoi....-, I T XT THE S U P E H 1 ['^ C O LI R T .
DOMINION CONTROVKRTKD KLKCTIONS WV, lH7t.
/■/,.,-/m ./« .W:mber <or th<' Ihusr. of Commons, for th,: l-:U-U.r,l D^xtnrt ■>, rh u-kr.i,, MaP.n*,
th: i'lth day of Sfpfembcr, lS7t).
rresont— The lion. A 1?. RoUTHlKR, J. S. C.
BRASSARD, t:t.al., Pelition.-ib,
The Hon. II. L. L.\N0EVIN, Defendant.
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANTS
Ili.k'bert Tromlilay, a-cl f.l yoars, lai-mer, of tl.o parish of Baio Si. I'miiI, Limii- .inly .wor,.
on llio Holy I'lvaiigi'lisls dt'iiosctli and saitii :
I know the i.aili.'H in this caiiso ; I am ncitner a lolativo, nor a connection, nor a .-.orvani, u,.r
ft domestic of any of tiicm ; 1 have no intercut whatovor in Him iwult of this suit.
'Pho Petitioners admit thai this witness will prove the same llii i- as Vinccslas Trcmbliiy,
Kphrem Simard, .Joseph liouehanl, l.nc Sinianl, Au-uste Sima/d and Xavier Tivmiilay .
T attended mass at P.aie .St. Paul on the Sundays diiriuf,' the election, and I heard the sermons.
3090 The Petitioners declare that they h'lve no questions in cross-examination to put.
This deposition bein- read to the witness, ho declarer th.it it cot.tains the Lrulh and cannot .1^1..
Taken and sworn
before me, in o)ien Vmvl, at .Malhaie, this
6th September, 187(i.
A. 15. PouiiHEii, .F. S. C.
C3i'3MCi'l:ttlf "''"''?
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,ro,(nr.orQooWc. j { JSj THE SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CJONTlfOVKllTKl) KLKCTIONS ACT, 1874.
riirHon of a Mfmbir for Ihf l/oiw of Commons, for thi- KiMoral lh»trM ../ i%trln^oix, MalhaU,
IhriUh ihi;/ tif Sqitfrnlier, lH7<i.
I>ri,g,.nt_Tlu' lloii. A. U. llouTmEU, .1. S. C.
UliASSAUI) ft III., 'V'titionorB,
Tho lion. H, L. Lxnmirvin, D.^feiidunt
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
Joseph Shiinnl, .i-;o.l 40 yoarn, Itimor, <.( tlio lm^^h of Haio Si. I'ui.l. IkIii- duly sw..rii on i\w
Holy I'lviuif;oli.-*tH, dcpoHetli iiml Miiitii :—
F know tlio imrll.-,s in (his cnu'-c; I am tu'illior a relative, nor a connect ion, nor a servant, i.or
H .loniestie of 'my of them ; 1 have no interest whatever in tho result of thin suit.
I ttttomlod miW8 at Haie St. Paul on the Huiulayri dtiritig the eleetion, an.l I heard the .uru'-
Kcrmons.
Tho Po:itionor.'* admit that this witness will prove, as to tho sermons and to lli.nr elTcM'ts, Mm
Rnmethin- as Vince.slas Ti emi.lay, llphreni Simard, Lue Simard, Joseph IJouehard, Ayuste Simard,
400(1 and Xavier Tremblay.
I rowido at tho plaeo i-alled Peron, at Haie St. Paul.
This deposition having hoon road to tho witne>s, he persists therein, declaring that it contftini
tho truth, and hath signed.
JOSI'dMI SIMAUD.
Taken and sworn "J
boforo me, in ojien {^ourt, at Malhaie, this V
(ith ot September, 1870. )
A. B, liOCTUIEB, J. S. C.
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ivovimc of Qn.hcr, > T Tsj THE SUPERIOR COURT.
IHsliicI of Sagutmay. ) -^ "^ ^
DOMINION CONTUOVEHTKl) ELECTIONS ACT, 1874
Klertionofa Member for ike. House, of Co,n,no,.,for tl^ f^l^^^' ^>-'-"' "^ ''"^'^"^^' ''"'""''
ihr tith d>vj of Septcmlier, l»7b
Present-The Hon. A. R. RoUTHiER, J. S. C.
BTIASSARD, et nl., PetitionoTs.
I'.S.
The Hon, H. L Lanoevtn, Defendant.
4010
EVIDEI^CE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
noront Dnfon,-, aged 5-.. years, farmer, of ,.,e pa.-ish of Bale St, Paul, K-in, ..,.ly .worn on the
Holy Evangelists, deiioHCtli and wnilh ;—
I ,.„.w the parties in this .anse ; I am ncitbo,- a relative, nor a eonne-.-ion nor a servant, nor
a domestic of any of them ; 1 have no interest whatever in the ro.ult ot th,s su.t.
[reside at Baie St. Paul, at the place called Concession de St. Antoine.
The ,K.ti(i..ners a l.nil that this witness will prove the same thing, as to the .ermons and to
r et^c's as Vin.eslas 'IVemhlay, Kphren. Si.nard, Luc Simard, Joseph Bouchard, August.
Himai'd and Xavior Trcmhlay.
This deposition hoing read to the witness, he persists therein, and declares that i. contains tho
truth, and cannot sign.
Taken and Sworn i
before me, in oi)cn Court, at Malhaie, this .
Gth Sept., 187(i. )
A. B. llouTiiiKii, J. S. C.
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Uislrict ol ^ igneuay
eoMfuebcc, ) TKr THE SUPERIOR COURT.
ol ^,lgneuay. J
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
se of Commons, for tlie Elector,
tlw/iith dav ot September, 1876.
Election of a Member <or tU House of Commons, for t,.El^toral DistrUt ot Cfu.ievoU, MalOa..
Present— The Hon. A. B. lioUTHlER, J. S. C.
BRASSARD, et. at., PetitionerB,
V.S'.
The Hon. H. L Lanoevin, Defendant,
EVIDENOE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT
Ovide Sin,nrd, a«cd 49 year, iar^er, of tho pari... of Bale St. Paul. b«i„g duiy sworn on tLe
Holy Rvanf^olistB, deposoth andBaith:—
I know the parties in this cause; I am neither a relative nor u -"';-;^i;;"^ J- '^ --■»"*'
.„.r a domestic of a'ny of thorn; I have no interest whatever .n the result of .h.n su.t
I rom«e near the village of Bale St. Paul.
•11 „-«,.„ iho a.imo ihlii" as to the Hormons and to
Simard and XaviouTremblay.
, know Alfred Dufour, a witness examined in this cause; I mot ^;^-f;'''^;;^^\^l'^
1 believrfL the conversations I had with him that he was for the Defendant, he let me se.
that ho was for him.
CROSS-EXAMINED.
period ; I cannot say^the precise day.
This deposition being read over to the witness, he persisteth therein, declaring that it eonUin,
4030 the truth, and cannot sign.
Taken and sworn
before me, iu open Court, at Malbaie, thin ■
6th September, 1876. )
A. B. RODTHJBR, J. S. 0,
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rroTlneeofQncbcc, { T 1ST THE SUPERIOR COURT.
District of Saguonay. S ^^^ xxj-j-- ^
DUMINION CONTROVKUTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
Section of a Member for the llo^.e of Conmnn.,for m El^ District of Ckarlevoix, .MaWa..
■' tfie nth diuj al September, 187t».
Present— The Hon. A. B. RoUTHlEU, J. S. C.
BRASSARD ei al., retitioners,
r.s.
The Hon. H. L. Langevin, Defendant.
evidei\ige:oi\i behalf of the defendant.
Joan HaptiHte Simar.i, Mged 39 yoar«, farmer, of Ikie St. Paul, being duly sworn „n the Holy
KvangelistH, doponeth and Hiiitli: —
I Unow the partic. in tl.is cause ; I :un neither a relative nor a connection, nor .. .crvant, no,
.domestic, of any of them ; I have no interest whatever ,n the result ot th,» su.t.
I reside at Bale St. Paul, at the place called Pirori.
The Petitioners adn^it that this witness will prove the same thing, as to the s.rmo.m ami to
their ctJoIts! as VineLlas T.cn.blay. KpI.em Simard, Luc Simard, Joseph Bouchard, August.
Simard and Xavicr Tromhlay.
T know Jean Larouche, the father of Xavier T.arouche, the latter a witness in this cause ; Jca.
.40 Urir: % .ther-in-h^v ; he is dea, and o^ n.st ^P-^^- ;:;->•;;; ^ 'Z::::U::Z
not ahle to hear the cure'« sermons irom his pew, no tola me mm
Rermons; the church of Haie St. Paul is a large church.
CROSS-EXAMINED.
Jean Larouche usually enquires as to what the cure has said when he has not heard.
This deposition :,eing road to the witness, he persists therein, declares that it contains the
truth, and cannot sign.
Taken and sworn
before me, in open Court, at Malhaie, this
6th day of September, 1876.
A. B KouiniER, J. 8, C.
4050
146
KEVLr.":! IN THE SUPERIOR COURT.
•'«*^- — —
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874,
Election of a Member for the J/uuse of Commons, for the Electoral District of Charlevoix, Malbuit,
the 6th day of September, 1876
Present—The Hon. A. B. Routhier, J. S. C,
BRASSARD, et al.. Petitioners.
vs.
The Hon. H. L Lanoevin, Defendant.
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
Frederic C6t6, aged 33 years, farmer, of the parish of Baio St. Paul, bciiif;; duly a worn on the
Holy EvangelistB, deposcth and saith : —
I know the partie:^ in thi.s cause ; I am neither a relative, nor a connection, nor a sorvant, nor
4050 a domestic of any of them ; I have no interest whatever in the rewult of thin huit.
I reside at the place called Peron, at Baie St. Taul ; at that place there are about from tliirty-
Hix to forty electors.
The Petitioners admit that this witness will prove the same thing, as to the sermons and thoir
eflToeta as Vineeslas Tromblay, Kphrem Simard, Luc Simard, Joseph Houcliard, Auguste Simard
and Xavier Tremblay.
This deposition being road to the witness, he persists therein, declaring that it contains th»
truth, and bath signed.
FREDKEIC COTE.
Taken and sworn
before me, in open Court, at Malbaio, this
6tb September, 1876.
A. B. Routhier, J. S. C.
J !
'lOtii
mm
U7
,,oMu..«Mfnob..e. > J ]sj THE SUPERIOR COURT.
District ol >agucuuy. S ^^^ -i.j.j.1— > ^^
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
riertwn of a Member „r the. llomr of romwon.% for the ICIa-loral District of Cfuirkcoix, Mal>Mu»,
thciJth iliitj of Si'iitcmbcr, 1S7(J.
Present— Tlio Hon. A. B. KoUTiiiER, J. S. 0.
13
BRASSARD, et. al., Rotitioners,
vs.
The Hon. IT. L LanoeVIN, Defendant
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT
.M.:.;eric Rouchanl, n-cd I!;", yours, farmor, ol' the pari.sh of BaioSt. I'uul, being duly Hworn oa
tho Holy Evangelists. (lepoHctli uiiii Hiiitli :—
,lUtiO 1 K-now tho imrtios in this .a.iso ; 1 aiu neither a relative, nor a connection, nor a rervaul, n.r
a doinestie of at>y of them ; I have no interest whatever in tho result of this ^ult.
1 re>ido at the place called I'eron.
Tho Petitioners admit that the witness will prove the same thin- as to the sermons and to ihoir
elfects, as Vinceslas Tremblay, llphreni Simard, Luc Simard, Joseph lio.Rh.'.rd, Au,-u.te Siinurd
and Xavicr TreniLlay.
1 attended tho church of my jiarish, and heard the sermons of the rev. cure.
This deposition heing read to the witness, he persists therein, declares that it contains the
truth, and hath signed. MEDERIC BOUCHARD.
Taken and sw
before mo, in open Court
tliis Cth dayof Septeni
orn )
t, at Malbaie, >
liber, 187C )
A. B. ROUTHIER, J. S. C.
■>wf
m
f~^f
4o:(
408
40!
148
ProTlnoeofQurbor, | T NT ^HK SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTKOVKWTKD ELKCTIONS ACT, 1874.
Kumon 0/ a Ahmber fur (he Ilou»e of Common,, for th; EMmO District of (%irlevolx, .U.n'A.i^
thedth iliii af 'i,')itemlwr, IHid.
rroBcnt— The Hon. A. B. Koutiukr, J. S. C;
lUiASSAIil) et al., retitioners,
I'N.
Tho Hon. II. L. Lanorvin, Defondanl.
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
Zq.hirin Guilmct, aged 40 yonr8, joiner, of tho purinh «( Biiio yt. Paul, being duly nworn <.n
4070 tlio Holy KvangelistM, deposoth and mi\lU :—
I know the purlioH in tliU civuHe ; 1 am noithor a relalivo, nor a connocU.m, nor a .orvant, nor
a domestic of any of tliem; 1 have no inlerodl wiiatever in the result of I his suit.
Tho I'etitionerH admit that this witness will jirove the same thing, as to tho sermons and llieir
otfeets, as Vinceslas Tremblay, Hphrem Simard, Lue Simard, Joseph Houchard, Auguste Hunanl
iiiid Xavier Tremblay.
1 know AHted Diilour, blacksmith, of Baio St. Paul, a witness examined in this cause.
Alfred has but liltio instruction, he is an ordinary blacksmith; I mot him several times during
tho election ; he used to say at one time, he was for one of the candidates, and at another time, lor
tho other; it was difficult to say which he was for; I saw him two or three times at Theophilo
40R0Siinard'H, with the friends of the Defendant, during the election.
1 remember the evening when tho Detendant spoke in the public h.-ill at Haio St. Paul ; I think
It wistbe i:Uh of.Ianii.%ry; the Defendant wont that evening to the public hall about seven or
half-past seven ; the public hall is about two arpents from Theophilo Simard's hoUHO. whore the
Defendant resided; before the niceting, I went to Theophilo Simard's, between half-past live and
six o'clock, and I remained there until tho departure of the Defendant for the meeting; all 'be linio
I so remained at Thdophile Simard's, on that evening I did not see Alfred Dufour there; 1 lelt,
Theophilo Si mard's to goto the meeting at the same time as tho Delendant ; Thomas Laroucho
and m.any others were with mo; when I went out of Theophilo Simard's house, at tho same time
with tho Defendant, I did not see Altrcd Dufour; I accompanied the Defendant as far as the public
409nhal!, I walked before him to show him the way, for a little snow had falle. ; the Defendant lelt
Simard's to go to the meeting about seven or half-past seven.
4100
411'
II
if*5'.<-*ai',K»: 'l -^^
u»
< IKiHHKXAMINEI).
Uoro wcro tm> «purtm.nt. ftt Sim.ir.lV, in wl.ioh thoro woro j i.l« , ....« onhoso npnrtmonl-
«,.s in.nu..liat..ly ut .l.o .„.,.,„.■. un.l ,Iu, ..tl.er, whid. w.m thoHit.in^-n.om. .to. I,, ho U- ur.
,„,U „rtho.li.Mnj,.rn.„u ; tlico was a ,„,.n, ulo„K.iao; I romun....! all .ho t.mo ,n , ho .lo . ha eu.
„,., ..n.nuu.. 1,«11 and tho .iUin,..-„„n ; th.To ,nay l,avo h.ou m. .h- .w.. '^--n.o Uk I. c«
,„..n.v«mllwo,.lv-tivc,.orHons: I -ann-.t nnmo nil thono who wcro.h.ro. I .v.nomh.r Ihonm*
,„ut time; I .Ihl n„t li.M >ho Urn. .mg, b.oau.c wo woo ...■.■..,.,:.! w.th ,he «-•'''•'•"'''"
,lu.h«hitofg«inK.hon. uvery ovoninK'. ami I into-.u.to.i my.olt ,n .ho cloo„..n ; .ho L i n.h.,
iUmuoMl on. horo.0 n,.. wo.li.wui. hohiml ihoout.i-lo d-.o.' to Ict.M.-. LanKov.n ,m.s out , wu olU.wo.l
Tt wore to keep the .ioo,i„ordor to .co into i,o.h a,.a,..,non.H. 1 .onunno,! ;;-'';;;'
,H,oplo at onoo n. .1 to hoar whalovory on., .aid; 1 .li-l not always ,,u,m,m n,y-clf ul tl o do ho
!,;,,!.,. cvonin^r-*; iH.ationod .ny^elf in tho doorway, hooauso it nm.-d . I I jnst now .hat t
htationod myseil' ut tlio door bocaiwc it Huitod.
QuoHtion.-Why <lid it «uit that evening rather than any other evoning Y
AnBwer.— It is bcoauso I wiHhod to station my«eif there.
(iiiostion.--Why did yon wish to station yourself thero that ovoniiifrV
y^nswcr.— It was to .ec what passed in both apartments.
(iuestion.-Why did y... wan. .o soo what pas.sed in tho ,wo ..par.n.o.as n.oro on .hat evening
than on another?
Answer -It was in onlor .o U.,.,w tho nowH of the olcotion in both apartmontn^Ree .ho ufli-
davit jDe^endant to oo.reot .his part of .he evidence) ; there were not people „. both apar.ment.
on that evening.
I was not Hit.ing in the door, but alongside ; when 1 said a mo.non. ago tha, I had ren^airu^
in the d..orway, 1 meant to say near tho door; I was alongsMe .ho door, .n .ho ent-uue
4110
room .
This deposition hoing r
truth, and hath signed.
.1)
tho witness, he porr^ists
oroin, doiiaros that it contains tho
/KIMIIUIN (lUlLMKT.
Taken and sworn
lO, in open Court, at Malbaie, this
(jth day of September, 1870.
A. B. Rot'TiiiEa, J. S C.
4120
t
c
4130 1
\
150
ESTorloSSI IN THE SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION (X)NTH()VERTEl) KLKCTIONS ACT, 1874
Election of a Mcinlicr far tin- llcusf of ''oinimms, for the l:'/rrti,r(tl nistrirt of Olutrlevoix, MalhaU.
the llh diuj (if Sijitrihlitr, IhTii
Tresent— The Hon. A. B. Routhieu, J. S. C
No. 14. iniASSARI), et nl., rditioners.
1'.-.
Thollon. \\. L Lanokvin, Dofendant.
♦•♦
E\//DEI\lCE ON THE PART OF THE DEFENDANT
i]2o Ananias Tlenaud, iii,'e(i forty yoais, tiirnuT, of tlio parish of 15aio Si. Paul, bein^ iluly bworn on
tho Holy Evangclifits, (li']i'>r.cili ami naiili :—
I know tho parties in tliis cau>e; I am ru-itlier a ri^ialivi-. nor a connoction, nor a servant, nor
a domestic of any of tlioni ; I liave no interest whatever in tlie result of thi- .suit.
Tho Petitioners admit that tliis witness will prove the same thin;; Ms to tiio cure's sermons, and
to tiieir oIleeLs, as V'incesias 'rreinhlay, ilphrem Siniard, Joseph IJouehard, Luc hjiniard, AugU3(o
.Simar<l and Xavier Trenihlay.
I know Alfred Diifoiir, a witness examined in this eausc ; I met him ollen on tho road during
the la.st election ; 1 went often to Tlieo|)hile Rimard's durinj,' the la.st election ; I ,saw Alfred Diilour
once at Theophile .Simard's, in tho evening, ahoul seven or haif-papt seven ; he was with snpj)oi'ter<
4130of tho Defendant; I think I saw him there hetween (he day of the nomination and that of the
voting.
The meeting,' hcM by the Defendant in tho public hall at 15aie St. Paul, took place about tho
i;5th or 1-Uh January , ii was bclore the day of the nomination.
rillP98-EXAMINED.
The euro was pre-^ent at the meeting I have just spoken of.
It was generally known that our cuie was against Mr. Tremblay, at all events, BO it was said.
This deposition being read to the witness, he persists therein, declares tliat it contains tho
truth, and hath signed.
ANANIAS RENAUD.
Taken and Sworn
before me, in opeii ('oiirt, at Malbaic this
7th September, 1876.
A. B. lioDTllIKH, J. S C.
f
414
415
^IML.
151
iWme 01 (fneb..c, i T TyT ^HE SUPERIOR COURT.
DLslricl ol Siigueuay. S '■ ^ ^
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
FlecHon of a Member for the IIou..<- of Commnns, for the FM'.toral Distnct of Ctuirkvoix, Malbai;
the 1th day ot Heptember, 187t».
Present— The Hon. A. B. KouTHlEB, J. S. C.
BRASSARD, et. al., RetitioneTs,
The Hon. H. L. Lanoevi.v, Defendant,
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT
Jean BnptiBto Renu.ul, i,(;ed 31 yoars, linHinilh, of U.c parish of Haio St. I'uul. being duly
4140Bworn on tlio Holy hX-aiigelistf, deposoUi and sailli :—
I know the parties in this cause; I am neither a relative, nor a connection, nor a servant, nor
a domestic lo any of them ; 1 have no interest in the result of tliis suil.
[Tho Petitioners admit that tliis witness will prove tlie same thing as to the sermons of the
Cure Sirois, and as to their otfects, as Vinceslas Tremhlay, Kphretn Simar.l, Joseph Bouchard, Luo
Simurd, Auguste Simard, and Xavier Tremhlay].
Tho meeting held hv the Defendant at llaie St. Paul in the public hall, during the last election,
took place two days bofore the day of the no,nina(io.. ; I went to that meeting about half, or throe-
quartcrH past six; the Defendant had not yet arrived ; the meeting began about thr.e-.iuarte-s past
Lon; I saw Alfred Dufour, a witness exa.uined in this c.use, two or three times during the elec-
4150 tion, at Theophilc Simard's, in the evening; it was in the evening, ehietly, that the Defendants
supporters us-ed to gather at Theophilc Simard's,
CIU)S8-EXA.M1NED.
The cur6 attended tho mee-M.g I have just spokon of, but did not remain there all the lin.e ;
tho mooting wiV8 called in support of tho DefonJanfH candidature ; the latter alono spoke.
This deposition being real to the witness, he persists therein, .leclaros that it contains the
truth, and hath signed.
JEAN BAI'TISTK RENAUD.
Taken and sworn ")
bofore me, in open C;ourt, at Malbaie, this >
1th September, 1876.
A. B. RouTHUR, J. S. C.
m^-^"^'^^'^
416
41";
41
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iri2
Province of Quehop. ) T T^T THE SUPERIOR COURT.
ItislrUI of Siisufiiay. S '^ ^ ^
DuMlNION COMTUOVbHTEU ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
riertion of a Meml,er for tk. Uo,..- <■/ ''^n.non. for ,k,- Kt.^o.,1 Pl.trict of m.rU-coIx, .^lall>a^e.
tluiltli. (I'll) III vftemhiT. 1H<I).
Present— The Hou. A. B. lloUTHiEK, J, S. C.
BllASSAUI) el al., retitiouers,
The IIou. II. L. Langevin, Defendant
EVIDEI\ICE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
Alfred r..voio, nj^^eJ 22 y..'-rs, .■nrtcr, of the ,,uri.h o.' 15.io Si. Paul, heing duly sworn upon
the J[()ly Evangelists, doi)o>etli and Huith ;—
I know the panics in this .ansc ; I am neither a relative; n.,r a connection, nor a servant, nor
4160 ^ domestic of any oflhcin ; I have n., interest whatever in the result of th,. suit.
[The Petitioners admit that the witness will prove the same thing as to the sermons of tho
Cure Sirois and their etVoets, as Vinee.lus Tremblay, Kphre.n Simard, Jo.^eph houehard, Luc
Simurd, Auguste Simard, and Xavier 'I'remhlay ).
1 know Alfred Dnfour, a witness exa.nined in this cause; I was in the habit of going often,
during the election, to Theophile Sinuu-d's in order to ,nect there the supporters of the Delendan ,
kn^w that Alfred J.ufou,' u.sed to go there during the election; I saw h.m there three or our
tims daring the election; I saw him there in the afternoon and the even.ng ; I saw lum lo
it; about Uvo in the afternoon ; I saw him go there one evening with 0.,es,me Lana.s, the latter
a brother of Llzear Danais, a witness examined in this cause.
4170
CROSS-EXAMINED.
I was emploved bv Israel T,>rtc, who was working for the Defendant at Haie .St. Paul he
was em, v ^^.^.^^^ ^^ l^^^.^ ^^^^^^^ ^^,,^ „^ j^„ ^ clock
L'ave mo four dollars to lake liim ono c\cuoi„ . ^ . , , , p ,,:,„ i>i„ip,,.,, ;« fVom
. , ■ 1 ,.„.,„,.„, .,1 ..t miilni"hl ; the ordmarv price f)rgoingt) I'etite Kivieiemiiom
in tho mornin', and we etui noil m iniiiiu,v,Mi, , • ^^ . i . , , .. i • „ i
ven "li 1 n,; and sixpence to two dollars; NL-. Tarte wanted .o go .pneUly; it wa. late a
when we ive fast we Lharge higher, from three to four dollars; I had never made a tnp to let to
Revrere fbr that price before; I went too fast, and 1 risked my hoi.e ; we went fast in order to
arrive before mass was over.
The distance is live 'eai;ues , 1 also drr.ve Mr. Tarte to the St. Our.s concession at Raie St.
P„u, hVcu' .;.. fV ...at soven Ishilbnu^s and si.Kpeneo ; it is the ordinary price ; it is two league ,
nsol^. !::^tZ th,;e le;.gues to go there from the village; I also drove, at Mr. Tart.'s re.uc.t, Mr.
j: a
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01
ri
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4200 1
15a
IVllolier f, tl.o l'ero.> .•...uosHiu,. , i. in (bur .aile. di.Hlanl . tho n.a,!. were ba.i [ «ot h.v...
,1 a 1 ixponcc : it was .u.t too nu,.!. for .pe.ulin, the ni.la out in 1 w.a.hcr I had no
S', !:, vote at .hat ek-.tion, hu, n.y la.h.,,., K-nlinaml Lavoie. h.i; 1 l.vu w„h n>y iatho,-.
Mr. Tarte .Mnployo.! .,.. ,o ^o .no.>aj;o. in .ho vilin^a-, and on .ho other .ido oi' .ho river, iu
tlic part whicli hoioii;;r* to ilio villii.t;e.
lie .avo ,no ,svon; ,-,lvo oents for oa.h n.essaKo that I wen. on foot ; i. was four or five arponts
,„ |..„vinV, wi,oro ho sVn. n.o throo .i-nos , I K-t twonty-livo con.. Ibr .ho .hroo .mho,.
RE-EXAMINED.
Be.wcen I'oti.o Uivio.. and Haio S,. Paul .he>-o are many hiilK and .i,o roads wore bad when
190 I wont there ; the trip was well worlh four dollars ; it was ooM and drif.ing , I had never Iravollo.l
Ko fast to Poti.o Rivioro; when we .nako a t.-ip to Petite Itivioro lor seven shillings and s..xpenoo
or ton shillings wo do not spend the day or the night thoro; out of olooiion time. 1 had prevously
roooived four dollars for going to los Hbouienionts, a..d the distanoe is not as groat as to la 1 elUo
Hivioro; 1 drove Mr. Pellotio.-, atto.-ncy for the Defendant, and K. Houloau, advo.'aie ol (iuoboo, .o
I'oron.asI have Htated ; the trip lasted from seven in the evening to midnight; Ihero are bills on
the road to Peron.
Tho weather wa« bad, it was raining and snowing; thi?
HhillingB and sixpence.
triji was riMluiidy worth si-vi'ti
This deposition being read to the witness, he porsistB therein, dorian- that it containMhe
<200 truth, and cannot sign.
Taken and sworn "|
before mo, in open Court, at Malhaio, this >
7th day of Soptember, 1870. J
A. B. RoUTHlER, J. S. C.
^"B!|
42K
154
IT r.«l(Jnob..e, I TNT T^HE SUPERIOR COURT.
IHslrUt ol SuBUi'iiuy. J
DOMINION CONTllOVKllTKl) KLECTIONS A(rr, 1874.
rWrtion of a Member or fh,; Ihu..' of ronunons, f .r the KlrrlonU thstnct o, Charkooic, AMbuU
Present— The Hon. A. B. lloUTHlER, J. S. C.
BRASSARD, et.al., PetitionerR,
vs.
The Hon. II. L Lanoevin, Defendant.
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT
HpiplmneCSuillo.net, nj;c,l X, year«, joiner, of the [..rish of Huio Si. I'aul, bein^- duly Kwornon
tlio Holy Evaiigolists, doiwcotli aiul naitli ;—
I know 'ho parties in ti.is cause; 1 am neither a relative, nor a (•ontu'cti,,,,, nor a norvant, nor
a .lon.ostic of any of then. ; I have no interest whatever in the result of this suit.
I am well iicquainlod with Alfred Dnlour, wilno«8 examined in this .ause ; he told mo several
times that ho had voted f(U- Mr. Lan^'evin.
fTho Petitioners admit that this witness will prove the same thin-, as to the ser«nons of the
Cure Sirois and their elleets, as Vinceslas Tremblay, liphrem Simard, J..soph Bouehard, L,.c
Kimard, Auguato Simard, and Xavicr Tremhlay].
4210 [ was not at the eiuir.h at Haie St. Paul on the sixteenth of January last.
The Petitioners doelaro that tlu-y iiave no crossiiuostions to put.
This deposition la-ing read to the witness, he persists therein, declares that it contains the
truth, and hath signe<l. KPIPIIAMK (JUlLLHMIiT.
boforo me
7th
Taken and sworn "J
!, in open Court, at Maihsiie, this ^
1 day of September, 1S7(!. )
A. B. RouTiUEK, J. S. C.
-i.'M»i:. tj(.;-,"jaii&.%.3QWiV«.'.' v.'.-vs'tr.'tat?*-. ,■
155
l"ro»liu'« of ({iiebt'c
UMrWl of SHtfUoniiy
.( IN THE SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTKOVKHTIll) ELKCTIONS ACT, 1874
/■ r »/,P hl,Mt,r,U Dtatrict of Charlevoix, Valbaxt,
PresiM.t-Tho Hon, A, 15. lioUTHIRU. J. S. C
iiUASSAltl), el «'■. Petitioners.
\'S.
Hon. H. l> LANdEVlN, Diifendant.
EmENGE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
p,.a„,oi. Trcnhlay, a,o,. .0 yo..., f.-mer, of th. ..ari.h of St. Fi.iole, being dul, .worn ou
the Holy KvanKcU.U, .icponoth an<l Hdith :-
1 Unow tho partic« in thi. <.u.sc ; . u.n neUluv a rc.a.ivo nor a ..on.,o.U..n, nor a servant, nc
H domestic to an} of then ; I huvo no into.-o.t .n tho re.uU of tin. Bu.t.
♦ ,u. Phnroh of Ht Fi.lolo on tho last Sunday beforo tho votin-; the '•ur* then na.d that,
\T / . r,V lim o that .hey had been unwillin. to understand him: ■• I w. 1. ' he
,hoy had no ""''"'•f '' '^V.^^ Sm.day I told y..u on .Su^tay that several persons had como
.. easily pevnnt that those pc s •« s s _ _^ K ^^^^^^^^^ ^ ^.^^^ . ^^^^^ ^,^ ,,„
.'priOHt should then slay .n the%ost,y. lUcn no ^^^_^^^^.^^, ,^j^^._.^
On that Sunday ho did nol read tho pastoral letter.
'priest
• amonjiist yourselves, that is all I ask of y
Bpcak of the Conservative parly,
tor ho loft u« Ireo; I know Paul Lapointc, ni :ii.. -a
-'a fc', <iJ> W»*# iteft»A
1A(1
lull ho toltl mo thill ho wum not u R iii«»v, If he h*l vi>u-<l, it \y»M Imvo boen f»r iho Djfoadant ; ha
■lid not voto lU tho liMt two clootiKiix.
I know Dttviil DaHsyl.ii, »(' ,i'nlh!iio, (iinnor, a witnon-* oxinnin«a in thii chu ho !•< iv i-olalivo
4!lO„r,ninoi ho h.mnl tho v»ri)'HHwm<mu\ Si. VvUWo on tho d »v '.I the Kpi phtmy ; on Uuit ilivy tho ciiri
,li(l not HiMJHk <.(■ Ilio oloi'ti.m , lio in.^rniy oxhoif I tho oloc.t..M t.. b.< •■ivil l.i tho .•iiinliduto^ ; l).xvid
DiiHHylvii did not. lo my knowlo.lu'o, hour any olhor rtormons m Ht. l-id41o duiiu,' tho cloction ; tl»o
(•iir6'rt MormoHH diil not prodiico uiiy oH'oct in tiio pim^ii, nor ^^\•^y.^U' wy noi«e.
( IIOSM KXAMINKM.
(JnoMtiun —I ciiiinol swciii- tl.rit David iKisivlva.lid not hour othor -.M-m .n^ llian that on tho day
of Kpii.iiany ; I cannot nwoar to all those who vsimo to tho Church of St. i- .d6lu ; of iho two Mormon*
which Iho euro proachod durin- tho olorlion, 1 hoar.1 hut ono; I was at Malhaio at tho tunc ot tho
..IJR.r tho mil ; Kavid DanHvlva was uImo at Mail.aio on that day on tho Sunday when I hoard ft
Hormon of tho cur6 on tho election, I did not hoo David DasHvlva; I did not K'i^'o tl'O wholo ol the
■«lir»0 ^ol•loon ju»t now; [ only sialoil tho prinoipal parm ; I do not rcmoiubor tho rest.
I swear that 1 undorHtood the Hormon in Iho way I stated just now.
(Juoslion -What would you sav if your cure hi.nsclt had roportod hirt HOrn.on to His Lordshhl
theAirhhishop, an follows :-" In mvsonnr.n of tho l(;th.lunuary, -oadin- the pastoral letter ot
the hishops. after the paraf,miph ho-innint; will, thoso words, ' Is ,.o tr,t u cit./.on hy thoHamor.Kht
,p, the others, oto, etc.,' I added, ■ Vou sou, ll.o priost can have his o•,^i ■.,.!, like any other .•itizen.
Ah n-au ' '«ve already coino to ask me what was my (.pinion in the p.o^ont contest, in "I'dor Uiai
al' iDi.y l^l>..'^ il, "I'd in order that 1 may ho loll in i.otico on Ihissuhjoet, I will toll it to you publicly,
'iikc Lotiec, : Ax, that I speak lo you now as a cili/.on, that is to say, neither as n priost, nor as
^ ,r r . are A Huch then, if I hiul to declare my opinion in the present oontest, wit h ii.y knowlodi^e
i..,-„ I M. ■ i,l .H.t i' •onscionoo, bo in favor of a (Jovornmont which calls itself Libo .d, nor lor any man
who ...n* that (iovornment. Xow, it is for you, with tho light,, you have to your
oonscieiico, and to act aocordi.iKly. -My conscience is not yours ; however, my knowlod^'o is
worth that of any oflh..- who come hero to inllionce you in those election liiiioHi woulU yni
nay that your oure told you the truth ?
Answer— If the our6 reports his sermon in that manner, it was not like that I undor.stofHl it_
but it mav bo that 1 misunderstood it ; I swear that tho cur^ did not say tho following words :
"If I had to declare my opinion in the present contest, with my knowlod-e, I could not, in
conscience, bo in favor of a Government which calls itself Liberal, nor for any man who supports
that Government."
4..-n The euro said this, "For myself, knowing what 1 know, in voting for Liberalism T should
"' believe I was c.mmitting a sin;" that is how I understood hira, and if ho si>oke otherwise, 1
misunderstood him.
I cannot say that the cur6 did not say, " Now, it is for you, with the lights you have, to form
vour conscience and act accordingly; my conscience is not yours, novertholoss, my knowledge
is woith that of thoso who come here to influence you in those election times ;" if ho said it, 1 Ho
not remember it.
Tho cure had begun by saying that as he had been asked his opinion about the election, he
would make it known onco for all, ui onlor that ho might be left in peace; Mr. Tremblay had said
publicly in a speech, that ho was not a Liberal Catholic, bat that he was a political Liberal.
4280 i do not romembcr ihat the cut e roa^l the pastoral of tho bishops or a part ot that pastoral ; U,
I«^-'
429(
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Malbaio; Uioy camo to give liilf-e reports, this is an uic
iny knowledge.
The cure repeated his sermon, us I have stated, becau.0 it waB«aid that two or three person.
had come to Mall)aie to Hwcar atUduvits against him.
Mr. Tremblay was known as the Liberal candidate, at the date of the cure's sermon.
The cur6 was in the pulpit when he preached the sermon of which 1 have ju.t spoken.
HE-E.XAMINEI).
David Dassylva is my brother-in-law, and if he had come ,o the church at St. Fidele on the
4290 1.1th, I think I should have seen him ; he is in the habit of coming to my hou.e.
This depositton being read to the witness, he persists therein, declares that it contains the
truth, and cannot sign.
Taken and Sworn
in open Court, before me, at Malb.aie, this
7th day of September, 1S7C.
A. B. ROUTHIER, J. S. C.
■^t^afgff^tfm^atf^mfs^immi'.-z ^!!ti^,mf
I I I ■iiiiirlM
'^'^'"'^:„
430i
4111
158
Province of Quoboe, ) TXT THE SUPERIOR COURT.
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DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874
Elertion of a Member for the Iluuse of Commm, for the Electoral District of Cluirlevoix, Malbaie,
the 1th day of September, 1870
Treseut— The Hon. A. B. RoUTHlER, J. S. C.
, BRASSARD, et a!., Petitioners.
vs.
Hon. H. L Lanoevin, Defendant.
*
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFLNDANl
An-nsto Biifour, a-cd :il yoai'H, farmer, of the parinh of St. FiJi'lo, boii)g duly sworn on the
Holy Kvanirolists, dcposeth and naitli :—
I Unow the parties in this cause ; f am neither a relative, nor a connection, nor a .-orvant, nor
a domestic of any of thera ; I have no interest in the result of thia suit.
1 attended High Mass every Sunday at St. Pidolo during ti.o election ; the cure spoke on
the sui.iect of the election on throe Sundays; on the last Sunday he told us to vote tor whom we
like<l, and peaceably; in tlio three Sundays, I have just spoken cf, I include the day ot he
4300K,,iphanv; on the Hpiphany the cure merely exhorted the electors to bo pcuceabc, and to im en
politolv'to the candidates, who were to speak after mass ; on the following Sunday he read ino
..astoriil letter of the bishops, and commented on it, and in explaining it he spoke of L.beiaii^m
and said t<. beware of it; that knowing what he knew, himself, in voting for L.beral.sm he would
do wron.r, but that for us, who were not instructed, we ought to vote according to our confic.once
for whichever candidate we would; he commented on the pastoral letter for about a quarter ol an
hour he was rot more excited than usual ; I did not understand anything else from hac set mon
but what I have ju-t stated : on the followingSunday, the 10th, the cur.5 said that he ha<l learned tl.nt
.omo persons said, in thoparish. that on the previous Sunday, the 9th, the cur6 had given the people
to understand that those who would vote for -Mr. 'frombiay or liis party would be damned ; the
..jtocure then added that he had not said that ; but the people had misunderstood him; that he haa noi
said that, and then he repeated what he had said on the previous Sunday.
On the 10th the cure did not roa<l the pastoral letter; on the Sunday on which he read the
pastoral letter (the 9th January), the cure said that several had come to his pre -ytory to ask ms
..pinion i that ho had not been willing to give it, and that ho would give it once for all, and thai
they wore not to go anv more to consult him at his presbytery; he then gave his opinion as 1 tift e
alrea<l- stated ; on the 10th the cure spoke for some ten minutes ; I did not understand tho cure
say that there was a Consorvativo candidate, and a Liberal candidate in tho field, and that we mu.
vote for tho good one.
tjft."
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AlU-r tlio mass, on the Itltli Jiiruiaiy, some persons ssiid to ino : " soinu pietendod that wo
i.M not vote for a Libeiul, now the curp has lolt us tree to vole uh wo liUo."
I am not nwr.ro thai tlio sermon oltlie 9lh ereated a noiso in thu parish, nor what iio said on
Iho llUh; lam not awaie that the euro's sermons cliaiigcd the disposition of tiieoloctors at St. Fidiilo.
The people took sides at St. I'iduU', wiien tlio eandi.laturo of Mr. .losepii Kane was in question.
Seven or ci^ht davs belo.e New Year's day. it was slated that Mr. Josepli Kane, Notary of
Malhaie, wa.s about to pVesenl himself a{,'ainst Mr. Trombluy ; reiiulsitious were signed in favor of
.Ml. Kane; I saw somo of them signed.
I know Hmelion IJouehard, a witness examined in this cause; durin- the eleetion he was very
ill, very weak.
The eure ,lid not spe.nk of Mr. Tremblay; 1 swear that the eurd did not say that we could not
43;;()vole lor Mr. 'rremblay without eommiting a grievous sin.
I ,lid not understand the cure to say that we eould not vote for M.. Tremblay or his party
without renouneim,' our reliu'ion ; I know I'm.l ],apointe; to my knowledge, he voted but once; .t
was at the election of Mr." Tren-hlay and Mr. Chauveau; I distinetly understood that after the
s..rn.ons ol the euro, the por.plo were free to vote for the .•andidate thoy liued, and that wthout any
danger of religion.
CROSS-EXAMINED.
|.Va.,..-ois Tren.blay, a wi.ncss already e.xami.>ed, and I, were supporters of the Del -ndant
Whet, the cure said that he had been asked his opinion, he spoke of his opinion on the n.anner
of voting at tbo election.
4;,,. The followitig having been read .0 the witness, to wit: "You see the priest can have his
' .. opinion, like an ' other citi.en. As many of the people have come to ask what was my op, mm
.. in the present "content; in order that all may know it, and that I may be lelt ,n peace on Ih.s
-subject, 1 will state it publielv. Take notice, 1 said that I am now speakmg to you as a e.t./.en-
.. that is to sav, neither as a pi-iest nor as your cure. As such, then, d I had to g>ve my opinion ,n
.' the present ;ontest, with my knowledge, 1 could not in conscience be in lavor ol a (.oveniment
" stvling itself Liberal, nor for any man'who sustained that .lovernmenl. Now ,, is tor you, w,th
■Mh'e lights that you have, to form your conscienee. and act accordingly. My ^-;--- '
.. ,.ot v.:...; nevertheless, my knowledge is worth that of any of those who come here ""''I -
' , . . ,, fiM •. ., w .wlivl ii' t rit s really the substance 01 the cure-'
'• vou in the.se eleetion times." The witness is aske<t il tiiai is it.ui^ . , , , ,.
4:150 . rmon on the day when be rea.l the past.-al letter, and the witness answers that he believes 1. is.
11 was reportci that Mr. Tremblay was the Liberal candidate, and that he supported the
,. , I 1- I w.t i.iLo mrt in the election in question; it may be tliat eloclora
Dominion dovernment; 1 did not take pai i in me ulluoi. n 1 , j
were changed by the sermons of the curd without my knowing it.
RE-EXA .MINED.
The cure did not jiroiKmnce the words, "the .MeKen/.ie Government."
Tl;i8 deposition being read to the witness, be persists therein, declares that it contains the
t:uth, and cannot sign.
Taken and sworn ^
before me, in open Court, at Malbaje, this }
7th day of September, lH7<i. J
A. B. RouTUiER, J. S. C.
■4H(
KiO
..o.hu,. o. o«ohoc, J TK[ THE SUPERIOR COURT.
Dislrltl ol Sagin'iiuj. i
DOMINION CONTllOVEllTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
w hv..t,,r„l District 01 Chiirkuoic, Malbutt
section Of a M.nber or M. ^-^^^t^X^'^^' «^"
Present— The Hon. A. B. Eoutiiier, J. S. C.
BRASSARD, et.al., Petitioners,
vs.
lion. H. L. Lanoevin, Defendant.
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT
X.oi.o na..va, a«ed U^.y-^u. yea., fav.or, of the parish ofSt. F... being duly sworn
on the Uolv Kvangolists,.lcposolh amUaith :-
^o^ In thin riuso • I am neither a relative, nor a connection, nor a Bervant, nor
'''' . j:rJ:^i^^-^^^^o interest whatever in the result of this suit.
1 attended the sermons during the election.
The Petitioners admit that this wit.e. will p^v^jho s^ :r;^.":o:;t t;::^:;^:^^:;'^;:
Trcml.lav, of St. Fidolo, and Auguste Dufour, all of St. 1 >dolc,
cureofSl.Fidole, and their eftects. ... ,u„
T.,. dopo-Hlo. boi„« -ad .. tb. «;u,c-, „« po.«U. tl.c™;,,, a»o,»c, 0..t ,t CO,,..,,.,
truth, and hath signed. N ARCISSE DASILV A.
before .nc,_in -'Pen Court, at Malba.o, th.8 J
Taken and sworn
:, in open Court, at M
7th of September, 1870.
A. B. ROUTHIBB, J S. C.
"i
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KrySS.I SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTRUVIiUTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
Jikction of a Member for //te House of Commons, for the Electoral District of ('hiirkvoix, MuWaie,
' ^th Si'ptemher, lH7(i.
Present— Hon. A. B. Roittihkk, J. S. C.
BRASSARD et ai. Petitioners,
x^s.
The Hon. H. L, Lanoevin, Defeudanl
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
Nazairc HoruW, of tho ago of Hixty-Bovcn years, farmer, of the parish of St. Fidole, being duly
Bworn on the Holy F'^vangelists, deposelh and saith : —
io-Q I know the parties i this cause; I am neither a relative, nor a connection, nor u servant, nor
a domestic of any of them ; I have no interest in ll>o result of this suit.
I was present every Sunday, at mass, at St. Fidole.
Tho Petitioners admit that this witness will prove the same tiling ae Denis (iauthier, Fran(;oi8
Tromblay and Auguste Dufour, in relation to the sermons of the cure of St. Fidolo, and their ctlects.
This deposition being read to tlie witness, he persisteth therein, declaring that it contains tho
truth, and that he cannot sign.
Taken and sworn, *)
before me, in open Court, at Malbaie, this >•
7th September, 1876. )
A. B. ROUTHIEK, J . S. C.
m
■ai
102
rr«..nco of Qnew. , 11^ THE SUPERIOR COURT.
HiKtrlct of SdK »J. i
DOMINION CONTUOVl-.RTKl) KI.KOTIONS ACT, 1871.
„„.„„„,„ ,.,.„„ .•^'^"^xxT^j^^s'' "■""" " '^'" ' ■"■•"""
Present-The Hon. A. B. RoUTHiKB, J. S. 0.
BRASSARD, el al.. Petitioners,
Hon. H. L Lanuevin, Defendant.
I.
E]/IDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANl
Foraituind Bouduml,' of the ft^" "|'
Hwor.. on ,1,0 Holy I.'.van,<cli«t., dopo.oll. and »uah.
28 voais, farmer, ot the ,,ariBh of St. Widulo, h.inu' duly
T «.r. noithor a relative, nor a coimcction. nor
a fOi'vai^ n<"
tliinf,' as Denis (laulliic-. Fran.om
moHH of the vuie ol St.
I know
■CiSOftdo' lie of any
1 •. *u«t ihiH witneHs will prove the name tlunj,' as
The l'«ti^i«";""t'i ":;',: '"t. Fidul' m .clution to the .e.
Treinbluy, and AugUHto Uulour, an oi
Fidolo and their effects. ^ . , .
the last election, but T was for the Dctondanl.
,toth therein, .loclaring ihui it contuins the
I did not take an active part in
ThiH dopo«i,i..n bein,. road to the witness, he po.-«i«t
truth, and that he cannot sign.
Taken and sworn .
before nu^ in open (V.rt, at Malbaie.th..
7th September, 1»70.
A. B. RoiiTHiiR, J. S.
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j SUPERIOR COURT.
liUlrlct ol HuKUoiiiiy
DOMINION CONTUOVKllTHU ELKCT IONS ACT, l^.
■ Commons, for the E
1th SiiitfinhiT, IH'ti
,1 i.'i..t,r,tl District ol Ch'ikvoix, MulbiU4,
El.Uon of a Mm^r 'or ,he Uou. .f -- ^- /'^.f ""^'"
No. 14.
rrcsent-Uou. A. B. UoU'IUIBB, J. S. 0.
BUASSARD, el.al., PetitiouorB,
Hon. H. L. Lanoevin, Doferidaiit.
EVIDENOE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT
p....... ,>.... <.r u,o U.0 „r :n .o.. ..-no.., o. u. ..... or s. .m. .... a... .wo.
on llu, Holy KvangoliHtH, doposotl, .ml .u.th :-
, ...H in this cause- I u.n uoi.l.er a rolutive, nor a connection, nor u nervaut, nor
,3ooa.o:r;:;':r^;':::" -:;> ..... . u. ...tor .. ...
1 voted ttt tl»o last election.
Tromblay, u.ul Au|^u«te Dulbur
effoctH
This .loi)os.ition hoing roiul to the witnesS:
truth, iu>d hiith signed.
, ho i,or..istoth therein, declaring that it contain, the
FRANCOIS DALAlRli.
Taken and Hworn
before me, in open Court, at Malba.o, thm
7lh September, lH<t»-
A. B. RouTniiu J, S. C.
■ 'fflr-i"«<f <ftyf
440C
.m..
164
Province of Quebor, » SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVliRTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
Election of a Member fur the House of Commons, for the Kkrtoral District of Charlevoix, Malbate,
1th 'Heptemher, ISTI'.
Present— Hon. A. B. RouTiiiER, J. S. C.
No. 14.
BRASSAliD el al., Tetitioners,
T^.S.
The lion. II, L. Lanoevin, Defendant
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDI\NT.
On^sime Tremblay, af,'ed 2'J years, f'annor, of the parish of St. h'idolo, hcins.' ilnly sworn on tho
Holy Evangelists, doposoth and Hiuth :—
1 know tho parties in this cause; I am neither a rehUivo. nor a connection, nor a servant, nor
4100 a domestic of any of tliom ; I have no interest in the result of this suit.
Tho petitioners admit that this witness will prove the same thing as Denis Gauther, FrancjoiB
Tromhlav and Augu.sto Dufour, in relation to the sermons of the cure of St. Fidolo, and their otfocts.
Sides were taken from the commencement of the elootion.
This deposition being read to tho witness, he persisteth therein, declaring that it contains the
truth, and hath signed.
ONKSIMKTRKMBLAY.
Taken and sworn
before me, in open Court, at Malhaie, this
7th September, 1876.
A. B. RonnuER, J. S. C.
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Mi
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411
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Krotlnce of Qniboc, ) QTiPFRIOx^ COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
Etertio. of a M.mUer for tl^ llou.. of Vonuaon., for ihelUertorM District of ClunUroi., MaWcue,
-,th Si'iitember, 18, (j
No. 14.
Present— The Hon. A. B. RoUTHIKR, J. S. C.
BRASSARD, et al., Petitioners.
V'.S.
Hon. H. L Lanoevin, Defendant.
£VIDEfi/OE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
Tgnacc Ouellet, aged 41 yoa,., miller, of thepari.h of .St. Kidole, being duly Hworn on the Holy
EvanitelistM, depiweth and baiih ; —
, ,<„ow the parlies in thi. cause ; I am neither a velaHon nor a ---^i""; "'"• '^ -'•-"^- '""
a <lo,nesUc, of any of them; 1 have no inlorcst whatever ,n the remit ot thm ,mu..
4.U0 The petitioner, ad -.it that this witne.. .ill prove the name thing -.^>7';;'^;;;^^^;^;;;7;£
Tremblay and AugUHte l.u.oar, .ilh regard to .he «ermon. ot the cure of ^,. I .dole, and the.r
etrects.
I know Malvina Dionne, wife of Seraphin L.joie, hoard u, this .ause ; her character i« not too
good, and tor .ne I would not trust her, und 1 would not believe iier under oath.
CR')88-KXAMINE1).
The hnd character borne by Malvina Dionne, consist, in its being said that she is not P^-'^j''- i
I nK.a to suy that .bo does not take care of bo • Hohaviour ; she i. a woman of h.ose tongue not ca. o-
Lrnotpartic'ular .about herself ; «omo poo,le .oU me, amongst others, her mother-.n-law accusc.l
her of'liaving stolon eU)lho().
.wo Some people say that l>or mothor-indaw is insane, but f..r myself I do not know her very well ;
'''' that tr.! t'lle'h^rm'l have beard said w.th regard to hor ; she lived about three year« at our house.
It is not on account of her character that I would not believe her under .>a,^b ; U is on^ccount
of the evidence which she gave in a cause in which I was a witness myselt ; I know it was >n the
InrruBe but I do not U^ow whether it was for the same object; the evidence g.ven by the two
of us did not agree.
UE-EXAMINED.
It was in the cause ol the Crown a,mi..st Joseph (luay, accused of perjury ; in her '^^'^^
.wore to things as having happc..d in my house of which I never had any knowledge . .t .sas lor
that that I would not bobove hor unuor oath.
44,1
44
ItiO
443n Mnlvina Dionne i« my hister-inlaw.
This (lepoHilion boin- vo^>\ U, tl.o witness, l.c porsi.tcth thoroin, declaring that it coiHainB Iho
truth, and that he cannot sign.
Taken and sworn
hcforo mc, in o]>en Coiivt, at Nfathaio. this
7tli Si'pti'iiiiior, I87t'.
A. U. llolTUIKK, J. S. C.
I'roTinop ot JJnrboCt )
IMstriH ol NajjTiumnjr. {
SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
Kleciion of a Member for the House of Commons, for the Electoral District oj Chxirleooi.c, Malbivt,
nth September, 18"(J.
Present— The Hon. A. B. Routhiee, J. S. C.
No. 14.
BRASSARD, el. at., Petitionors,
Hon. H. L. Lanoevin, Defendant.
EVIDENOE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT
Thnmas Savard, agod 44 years, blacksmith, of the parish of St. Fiddle, being duly sworn upon
the Holy Kvangclists, doposoth and saith : —
I know the parlies in this fau,-,e; 1 am neither a relation, nor a connecii(.n, n.)r a servant, nor a
domosiic of any of thorn ; 1 have no interest whatever in the resuU of this suit.
I attended mass at St. Fiddle during the oleution.
The Petitioners admit that this witness will prove the same thing as Denis (Jaathier, Fran(;oi.s
Tremblay, and Augusto Dufour, with regard to the sermons of the cure of St. Fidele and their
effects.
This deposition being read to the witness, he persist«th therein, declaring that it contains the
4440 truth, and hath signed. THOS SAVARD.
Taken and sworn
before me, in open Court, at Malbaie, this
7th September, 1870.
A. B. ROUTHIKB, J. 3. C.
,^
M .
167
I.r«»Incfol(}u.boc, , SUPERIOR COURT.
Dis id of Sa?u»Miiiy, J *^-' *^
DOMINION C0NT1U)VKI{TED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
m-;on of a Member for the Home of r.„unon.. for fJ^J^Mural District of (%,rlecoix, Mall>. e,
Present— The liou. A. B. Routuieu, J. S. C.
No. 14.
BRASSAllD fi al., retitioiiers,
V'.S.
Hon. II, L. Langevin, Defendant
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
AloNan.lrc Murray, a-.n! ti:! yoar- fnrinor, ol' il.o i-arish of St. Agnes, being duly .wo,-n upon
the Holy Kvaiigelisls, (lopo^otll ana -ailli :—
1 know the partio- in this cause . i am noither a rehili<.n, nor a conacction, n..r a sorvarU, nor
a .lo.Mostic of any ol'thcm ; 1 have no interest wl>atover in the result of this su.t.
1 know Mttivinu Dionne, wi.o of S^raphin [.ajoio, hofh hoar.l as witnes-.es in this cause, it is
impossihle tohave with the public a worse elmractor than .Sorapi.i Lajoie's; lie us ahu.ed everywhere
one goes.
From hi.s general character, 1 would t.ot believe him under oath ; it is impossible to believe hi,u
under oath.
4450 The character of Malvina Dionne is like that of her husband Seraphin Lajoie ; 1 would not
believe her under oath.
CHOSS-EXAMINED.
I have alre^iv teen prosec.ted lor perjury, the cause was sent to (Meboc, and the suit is still
Dondin,.; J wv^.t U> Quebec to appear at the tor.n, where the suit vvis to come on ; my ca.e wa.
clJied.lut it di. n< t ., on; I do not know why; there was a verdict of the grand jury uga.nst me.
The ■ ,VM K-ior t>orne by .Malvina Dionne, c>.>*,sisls in her molher-in-luw having said before me,
at Mr Per r-'t .- *»vocate"u*. Malbaio, thalsW Inul sU.lea all her clothes from her; the mother-m-
law wa« «t 1... ume quarreling with her son, Seraphin I.ajoie; she came to complau. o Mr
i'errault, and ^I.ow.4 hi-n the blows, whi.^h she said she had received upon her arm., .rom Malv.na
4460 Dionne and Seruphin Lajoie.
I do not know whether they went to law ; I was in jail once on that prosecution, but it waa
- . .J • :.^£s„ ta...i .(...■- ;i;M.riillT Khoud ">v'e bail; the ricliest and
a fail!*; itttpi'isonment ; I v.-as; in jsKster t'*'* -K"^ -- " ~"" "^
w^^iH^ ',-^mmf^ ^^^m^'^'-'^im
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n,.Ht roM.cctut.le pc.ploof Mulhuie, to the numl.or of about fifty, offorod Ihom^olvc. a. bail for me,
„,„1 1 luul to do with u .•omplaiMiinl who would not J.oar rooHon.
(iuo.tion.-Wbut have you b.^unl .ay, bosidoH what you bavo just related, about tbc cburaetor
(iI'Malvinu Dioiino?
:';r;:;'; ;;tr,:',;;;;:'.:: i' L. ,..„,»: .- .i.... .« *—
4470 was not Hoknoekcil ab(.ul.
-n,., i. all 1 k.unv witb rc,-ard tr. ber; 1 bavo heard nay by her present n.i.ud.bor, also that
,,er .loulc^i^^llw Olalvina Li^nne) bad ,uade the sU„.o eo.plaint to bin. a. to M.. Per.ault , 1 do
t).- know any other thiny about bei el ai adei-.
.1 . T nlnln • «bo \h not insane ; she has more sense than ber sons ; hor sons say
1 know the mother ^' J '« > ^^^^ '" ^^^ '" ' ^,,, .„„,,„, ,„, by ,,e..in,, her ; I have seou
„,U .he is ...sane ; but ^^^^^^^^^'^^ ^ 'J Uand , but they wore after ber like erickets ;
,|,„„ n.row ber out ol doo s 1 e Iw d^a t U ^ , ^J ^^,,,^^ , ,„,,, ,f ^.o
tli'it is more than seven or eif^ht je.irs af;o , m.. ..u , . ,
,!:; dK^ter of Seruphin Lajoie, is, that ,be ebea.s p, ople in exehan^.n, boo.
It is 1 who am generally kno^vn by the name Brun(.cke.
^^^^ UE-KXAMINKr.
The eonn,lainant in tho action f^.r pe.Jury against n.e, is John O'lWU, ^^^^-^'^^ ^i^^'"'' '
„,a c.,n,.laint was n.ade before Klavien Helleviile, then Justice of tno Teaco. ..( Malb.uc.
Ouestion.-Wbat do you mean to «ay, when you say in our ..ossexamination, 1 bad to do
with H complainant who would not bear reason ?
Answer -1 meant to say that the complainant would rot accept my bail.
This deposition being road over to the witne.«, he por«istcth therein, declaring that it contains
the truth, and that he cannot sign.
Taken and sworn
beloreme, in open court, at Malbaic, this
8tb September, 187t).
A. B. ROUTDIEB, J- S. C.
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45
I :i
K;r.,"i;„r.!:;: i superiokcourt.
DOMINION CONTllUVKUTKI) ELWmoNS ACT, 1874.
Ekctimof a Mrmhtr fur Ihv ll^nsr of ''mtnii'im, fur tin- /^lirtontl Pintrirt vf Chtrli'Ouix, M.iI'i'J i,
I'roseut— '"li
No. 14.
A. B. RoUTHIEi:, J. S. 0.
BUASSATitr), etal., Petitioners.
Hon. IT. L LaN(JEVIN, Defendant.
*••
EV/DEM'E ON BlHALF OF THE DFFEfi/OANT.
Jos(']>h Uuay, u;,'(h1 ioiiv tivi" yours, farmer, of tlif |piui.M|i of ,Si. ,Vi;ii6«, Ipoiiij; iluly .iworii iipou
tho Holy Kvaii^olintw, ilopoM-ili .nul siiith : —
441)0 r Unow tlio piirlic
d<»niu^lic' of any ui llioir
iiii^e; I am iicillior n rclalimi, nor a connccliori, nor a ^^l'^vunt, nor a
no iiitt'ro>l wliulc'vor in tlio re.iull ol llii.s >uit.
ami Malvina l)ionni', liis wi(i>, liotli of lluMn liuaril as witticssos In lliis
r of .Si'iaijliin Liijoie i'-liiiil ; I wouM not, ln'licvu liiiii lui'lor ouili ; Malvin.i
I know SerH|iliin 1
eniii-i' ; tin; general cljin
Dionno pasces as a pidMin who dons not toll the iriitli iiiulor oaili ; for iny.^olf, I would not hoiiovo
her under oatii ; I know Ah'xiindcr Murray, a witiniss lieard in iliis caiiso ; his cliarai'tor is sj;ood
uc<'or<ling to mo, and I'roui what I hear say.
CUOSS KXAMI.NEI).
Soniphiii Lujoie bciii-H a bad eharaeler; liecMUse ho in considon-d iw ehi-ating poopio in tlio
exchange of liorscs; 1 ca.inot i-cmemln'r any of tho |)oopl" «ho have spoken ill to ine of .Maivin;*
4,')00 Dionnc ; 1 hoard it said in llie world; [ heard it said at our house and ol.sowhoro, hut 1 carinot
Hay where; it is sdways f^oitij,' around among people; 1 icidly suppo.se that everyhody eotl(•el•n^
himself ahout Malvina Lajoio; all that 1 heard say with regard to .Malvina h.iiine, w:i.s, that she
was a worthless person, liui I do not know what was meant by that.
I was ])ro^e(•uted tor iMMJnry ai Malbai^", two vears ago I think, and [ wa.-) P)unil guilty by the
petit }\\vy; the vcrdi<'t was set aside by tlio (Aairt of Appeals, I do not know for what reason.
RE-EX.V.MINEI):
The complainant was Louis Maltais, of Malbaie, I'armer; 1 swear that 1 was not guilty of por-
jury ; John O'Farrell, of tiuebee, advocate, was advocate for Jiouis Maltais.
This deposition being road to tho wituoss, ho porsisteth therein, declaring that it conl;iii h the
4510 truth, and tiiut lu .arinot sign.
I liuu •■"••■) — " -0--
Taken and sworn ")
before iiio, io open Court, at Malbuio, this >•
ih September, 187<!. J
A. 15. lioUTUlEll, J. S. (J.
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DLsiriLl ol Mtguuiiuj. (
SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
MecUon of a Member lor the House of Comvum, for the. Electoral District o, Ch.<rleooix, Malbau,
Sth Septtinber, 18(0.
Present— The Hon. A. B. EoUTHlER, J. S. C.
Ho. 14.
BRASSARD, et. al., I'etitioni;i>,
vs.
Hon. H. L. Lanoevix, Defendant.
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT
Jol>n ('hamard, aged, 20 yearn, of the pan.h of Mallaio, being duly Hworn up.n the Holy
Evangelists, de])OSeth and uaith: —
I know the parties in this cause; 1 a,n neither a relation, nor u connection, nor a servant, nor
a domestic to any of them ; I have no interest whatever \n the result of this su-t.
On the day of the nomination 1 went to Barth^lemi Bouchard's house, in the yillnge of Mal-
baio • Seraphin Laioie, was there ; Mr. Tremblay was then speaking to his partisans, at Mr. ( oUar «
hous'e in the viuige; everybody who arrived at Barthelemi Bouchard's house asked horaphm
Llie why he did n^ot go and listen to his candidate, M.'. T-nblay, and thereupon Seraph.n Lajojc
as.;uL us that ho w.u, for the Defendant ; he endeav to n.ake us behove that he was ,or the
4S20 Defendant.
The Petitioners declare that they have no questions in cross-examination to put.
This deposition being read, the witness persistcth therein, declaring that it contains the truth
and hath signed.
JOHN CilAMARD, Jun.
Taken and sworn ')
before mo, in opei» Court, at^Malbaie, this V
8th September, 1876.
A. B. RouTiiiEB, J. S. C.
171
l'r«vin,.eof(Khec, , SUPERIOR COURT.
m.
DOMINION CONTROVKIiTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
Action of a Member for ihe Jfou,se of Commons, for the Electoral. Distriet of (%irkvoix, Malh<:ie,
8//i '^efitemlier, l«7<i.
Present— The Hon. A. B. RoUTHlER, J. S. 0.
BRASSAliD el at., Tetitioners,
Hon. H, L. Lanoevin, Defendant
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT.
.Inlos TiMidol, ajrod fiO joars. cariioiilor, of the jiarish of Mulbaio, liuing duly sworn ui)on tli»
Holy Kvaiiiceli^ts, (le;M,.elli and saiUi:—
I know the parlies in t'.^is cause ; 1 am pcitlier a relation, nor a connection, nor a servant, nor
a domestic of any of them ; 1 'lave no interest whatever in the result ot lliis suit.
1 know Seraphin Lajoie, of Malbaie, a witness lieai.l in this cause.
.\hout the tenth or tweltth of last May, I lia.i a cv.iiversation with tho said Sorai.hin Lajoio at,
r)30 my house, at Malha'c, .iurinji; wliich he spoke to me of a law-suit whi.di he had with his motiier,
andof aceitai:i.;.-clarationwhich he had made; I sent f(-r him to hlced n.y horse, which was
tiien sick ; this is pretty nearly what he said to me, " My <lear Jules, you mi-ht do mo a .ervice;
you are on p.od terms wiih Mr. Perrault, yon mitclit tell him to put an end to theartair(,t mamas,
which he ha> against me; .he is always at war with us ; she breaks up everything in the hou>0;
she tears the feather bed; she beats my wife ;" upon this I sai<i to him, " My dear Serapliia, even
if I am on goo.l terms with Mr. Perrault, you may well believe that, after the dei.ositioii that you
liave made,lio cannot have much kindness for you : you would do much l)etter to go to him yourself ;"
upon this, he said to me, " My dear .lules. those whotol.l him that, must go to the devil ;" ho said
tome, " Mr. rerruult never spoke to mo about it;" he said, "for example, Messrs. Kane and
4540 Perrault askeii me to sign a requisition for Mr. Kane, 1 could not refuse, but Henry Simard wanted
to reproach me with it"; I answered him," said Lajoie, "when I want some little services, five or
Bix dollars, 1 go to those people, and they lend them to me ;" lie said, 1 went too see Mr. Tiemblay
to ask him to lend a few dollars, and he refused them tome; I work," said he, " for people who
aro useful to me, who render mo services when I want them."
Those are the remarks that Lajoie told me tlien, ho had made to Simard ; at the time of that
conversatio.i, Lajoie declared to me that Mr. Perrault had never wanted to buy him by putting an
end to the law-suit which he biid thou with his mother, and thatt.) induce him to vote m tavor l^
ss^ss;..
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tho Defomliint ; T/.joie tborMuMcil lluit he lumsolflm,! novor mu,1 t.. uui 'kkIv tlml (ho .uiJ Mr.
IVirault hull ho \vi>ht(l to buy him to make him vote in favor of the Defcndunt.
,... At the time of that convers.aioM.Luioie was quite sober, a.icl appenro.i t,. un.ler^taM,l what U
'"'was .ayin-, .ho character ..f the Hui.l Sera,,hin Lajoie. is tl,a. ho ehoa.s every ho. y m the
" ..hanii.,« of !. .r.o> ; to my n,in.l it is not a .oo,l one ; I cannot say whether I shouhl hel o e
UUn .nlerouth ; if ho did us n.u-h to ,ne, I would .,ol h-lievo idm "n.ler oa.h; I n.eun f -'y ^ " .
if he was ca,,ahie ol' ei.e,ai„,,r n.e, .r of nukinj; .ne U>se aMythin,,s i should heheve h.m capable ot
taUiiii' a false oath.
( HOSSKXAMINKD.
I Know Soraphin Lajoio quite us w.ll us anybody at Malbaie can know him ; ho nearb' -^-^
Ids living by dealing- in l,..rsc«, and what gives bin, the character o( winch 1 speak ,. that he too
often deceives those with whom Ik; exth:iM,Lre>.
4580 The last words of ,he conversation with Lajoie, of which I have spoken, were the followin.j,
*^ words of Lak.ies. MIy dear Jules, speak to him abou. it at any rate, Mr Perraul. wd see well
rZwinJiUt I amiot a traitor;^' ■' was Seraphin ^^^--^'O begun the con vers. n,n^
occasion of which 1 spoke above; ... -ked me for H.me pounds o po,k, snv .ng, I cannot hn..
„„y to buy, and n>y .nother gives n.e the devil be..uuse I .lo not gel h.r some.
Seraphin Lajoie s mother is looked upon as insa, e, but 1 beiiev^e n.yself she i- rnor. wicke.l
,U.Hisa some people say that her children are more insane than she >s ; Seruplan Lajo.e ,s no
man nisaiiL , , uuiu i i j i„.,i;,,,, . :. was dircctlv after the conversation which I
insane he is very cover m bis horse dealing, it ^Mis (iiiuii\ ain.i u.
Z ;. 1 minutl ago that Lajoie said to n.e, "Dear Jules, you really might ^i" >';.^ " '
eivi e;" all that wat said in .hi conversation is reported in my examination ,n cue. b tw
"'"'Question.-ln what part of the conversation did Lajoie .leclare to you that be had never said
ihat Mr. Terraidt had bought him?
A„,wer.-1. was in .hut part where I said to him that Mr. IVrrault would not do any favors ior
him, in my opinion.
„■ that is not in my depositioa at that place, it is that I omitted it ; I was under the impression
of having said it, for it is the truth.
1 am sure that 1 have forgotten no detail.
L-gO This deposition being read o.-er to the witness, ho persisteth therein, de.l.triug tli..t it
contains the truth, and hath signed.
JULES TKUDiiL.
I.,.
Taken and sworn ^
before me, in open Court, at Malbnic, this <
8th September, 187G. )
A. B. iloUTUIER, J. S. C.
jwSijiE^iStSJirf.s&'^'i'^vV, -
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Provlnro of QHcboc, I T "NT THE SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION (X)NTROVEUTKl) Kf.EOTlONS A(rr, 1874.
Hertionof a Mrmher for the lUm of ''omm.^ns. for th' Hfrtnnil Dislrirt of C/uirlifoi.c, MiWuie.,
Ihc iilh ihiij of Sriilniiliir. IMTtl
rreseiit— The Hon. A. B. RoUTillKR, J. S. C.
BRASSAUl), e/. al., retitioncrs.
^'■s,
The Hon. II. L Lan<>evi.n, Uoi'endant.
EVIDEt^CE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFEiVO.hVl
The Rov,l. Frari(;oi8 Cinq-Miiw, l-nrish i.ricsi, a^ro.l lilt years, ol ti.o p i.i.h ol'St. .Si.uo.„i, lu'lng
duly Hwoin in the ordiniiry manner, foUowoil for ciclcsiaslies.
The atloriicy fortlio Pcliliniiers poitils out tliiil il.o witno.^s hiis not been Hworn on the Holy
Kvainnlisls and that the .Imposition should net forth tho fact, whereupon the attorney for Iho
I)ofendant a.Us that the witness bo sworn on the Holy Hvangolists, and ho is in fact «worn in iho
manner last men.ioncd.
I know the i)arIios in this cau.e ; I am noiUicr u relative, not a connection, nor a soi'vanl, nor
a domestic of any of them 1 have no interest in the result ol this suit.
4590 The witness asks permission of the court to make the followin- .ioclaration before -ivin.; his
evidence- " In accordance with the circular which was sent to all the cuies at the same tune wiiu
the nastoral letter of the bishops, 1 be- respectfully to take exception lo the compeiouce ot this
tribunal; nevertheless, as [ am accused of f<)rf,'ory by a witness named Johnny Desbiens, and as
permission has been -ivon by my bisho,., the Archbishop of (Quebec, to all the cures of the county
ot Charlevoix to appear a. witnesses in this cause, by letter addressed to the attorney tor the
Defendant and to the cures of the county. I appear voluntarily to yive my evidence, winle pn.-
lesling."
The Ictlcr hereunto annexed bein- shewn to the witness, he testiiios that it is the hand-writ! n.i;
and bears the ,ii;nature of 11. L. the Archbishop of tiuobec.
nm He produces the circular of the Bishop of the Ecclesiastical Province of Quebec, dated 22nd
Sept 1875 Defendant's Exhibit No. V ; thia circular was sent to mo in September, 1870, at the
same'time with the pastoral letter of •■•,o bishoj.s, dated 22nd September, 1875. which letter 1 pro-
duce Defendant's Exhibit No. IV ; lu< ...i.'cular and this past( ral letter were sent at the same time
to all the cures of the ecclesiastical I'rov.nce of Quebec; it was this jmsloral letter winch was ,oad
in the county of Charlevoix durinK' the last election ; this circular and this pastoral letter which L
have iust pr:,duced are authentic; this pastoral letter is generally known in the county o Charle
voix under the title of the " Pastoral Letter of the P.ishops;" there are no other collective letters of
the bishops, which speak of elections sent to the clergy since the 22nd Septen.ber last.
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I Hwoar that the Kxliiliil iV«>. I of the i)urcii(hmt which in now xliown iiio Im writtoii by me, ull
4iil01i(il tho Hif{nutiiru» Iv \V, Tivinhliiy, i'tio., iiiiii Joliti Suvanl, wiiii'li upiicur ul foot ol'the Hiiiil wriU
iiif,'; ihiuhitu ofKiiid wriiiiif,' i .lino in my writiiif,', uml wum alHxed on tlio twenty -ciijlitli I'ubruniy
1S7(I, .it St. Kidoio, iwt cxproshod in thu wiid writiiij<.
I had be;;un iiy writing; tlio winds ''Si, Simeon," liy u distriuition, and 1 at once wrote, perceiv-
ing my oiTor, the words "St, {''idiilii."
I corroctcd tliiit ci rnr lictiiro sinniiif,' tlip iinino ofjnlnmy Denbiens,
(^iiOHlion.—State wliy that paper wiw drawn np and nignod?
Objected to aH tending to prove an oxtra-jiidieiul doclaralion of .(ohnny hoshiium. contrary to
liis evidence, when iiin altontion w:is not caliei. tlieroiiiuo ; and in tlie sei'ond place, becauso liml part
of tiio testimony of Dosbienn, wliicli it in thus Roiii,'lit to contradict, relates to a fact not pertinent
4tJ20lo this euuso; it'i the third place, because this evidence tends to discredit Dosl.iens, examined us i»
witness by tho Defonilunt,
Objection ro.-ervcd on ilio merits.
Answor.— Tills dcclarntion w.as made in order to he sent to II. L. the ArchlMshop of <iiiohec,
under tlie tollowini,' circumstances : I )ii the I'l'iid Fcl.niary, when at tho hou-e of .Mr. I »eiiis (iuiUliior,
merchant, ut St. Fidole, I learned ihit .lohnny Dcshiens, fai mer, ot Haie des lloehers, was ir the
store. F sent word to Johnny Dcshiens, liy Achille IJherer, clerk, to come to the pivshylery of St.
Fidole. 1 went nivself to the prohyiery. A few minutes afici wards Johnny Deshiens entered the
kitchen of the pro.sliytery. 1 made him enter ihe cure's olH.-e. The cure of St. Im.IuIc, the Rev. .Mr.
Tremhiav was thero. I nsked Jfdinny Dosbieus if it was really true, as ho had alHrmod in an utli.
-Ifi'W davil, thai 1 had told him tli-il it was a mortal sin to vote tor Mr. I'ltre A. Trembhiy. lie aiiswored
in the atlirmativo. i then put to him these .luesthms; "Did I speak to you of politics in your
house?- lie aiLswered in tho ne-ative. " Did I spoak to you of polities when we were in tho
vehicle ?" lie uns%vercd "No." " Then I spoke to you of politics only in my presbytery, in .prosenco
ot Francois Her-eron and William Savard T lie answered " Yes." " Are you pre,.ared to sign a
,locumen't containing that truth T He answercl me " Yes." Then 1 wrote that declaration,
K.xhibit No. I, and after having read it to him aloud, I again asked him permission to sign it. As
he did not know liow to write, I wrote his name, with his permission. I do not remember that he
touched the pen ; nevertheless. I am in the habit, when an important document is to ho signed, of
making people sign. The Ueverend Mr. Troinhlay, cure of St. Fidole, after having hoarl the ro;id-
4f,40in- of the declaration, signed as witnes.s. As I wished to have a second witness, I went out of tho
pn>shytorv, as 1 wanted to find some person able to sign at Denis (laulhier's. I turned b.i.;k,
remembering that a young man named John Savard was capable of being a witness in the matter.
Thi.s youi.«'man was by chance in the kitchen of tho presbytery. I a~ked him to c.mo with mo
into tho oiTice of the presbytery; then, when he was in tho ofHco, I presented to him tiie paper on
which was this decluration of Johnny Deshiens. Johnny Dcsbicrs was then in tho ollice, sitting
near (he desk. John Savard road the doclaralion aloud before Johnny Dosbien.. Johnny Dosbions
answereii that he consented that John Stivard should sign the declaration as a witness, and John
Savard affixed hi« signature. Immediately afterwards Johnny Deshiens went away.
The cure of St. Fidelo was not in the oHi.e when John Savard road tho writing in question to
4650 Joitnny Deshiens, he was in the door or near tho door of tho office ; during the election I spoke of
politic, but once only to Johnny Dosbiens, in my presbytery; it was on the 2()th January, about
two o'clock in the afternoon ; William Savaid and Franyois Bergeron tho elder, farmers and laborer.
of St. Simeon, were present; we wore in the kitchen of the presbytery; 1 think it was Wilham
^•JpfJ^SffS.;;:
4Bi:
i-r.
Suvunl wl... iK.pu. t.. H|.«Hk of |M.liti<-»; I wum not npoukin^' ftt ull lo J,.hi,..y .)o.l.i«..H, who w.w
nuTuly u li-.tonori 1 .|m.I<o not only i.,\Vm. Haviml, bill ul»o lo IVunyoiH llcr^oioii , I Ihon ioimI m.mo
rxirmlH IVoi.i lion. Mr. ilu tinKdonn h,.....c1. ; ti.oHo oxtructH are imlinitoa l.y my Hignaturo m the
.•xhihit No. Ill, of Iho IVIoiMhin-, whi.'h I now ,,ro.l.ii'.- ; I thon ..xpl -in...! wlnil wu. iho hoimn- ol
that .liHioiirHo; I npoko thon ollho paHlural lotlor of tl... IliMhoim of tlio WTloHiaHtinil Prov.nco ol
ii,u.U.o, an.1 1 Hai.l ihai ('alh..lir LihoiuliNn. wan c..iulomnf<l. ami that I niyHcll. knowmn tho inoanin;^
46tiOol the hoarinK-pf lluiitin«,h.n'. -.|.ml, aii.l (.f tho pahloral loiter (.f the HiM.o|.s, 1 should boliuvo 1
WUM .oinn.itlinga^in if I voI.mI for Mr. I'. A.Tro.nhh.y, the -vi.low .la..iuoH roMor my .ervou
Ihon hi-oku to mo in tho.o wofdn : " Why -IM you not -ay that to my chil.licn, I l.'ur that tiny will
" oommit a nin l,y volinK li.r Mr. Tronil-lay ? " 1 answoro.l hor, " l.ol your ohihlron vote lor Mr-
Troiiihlay, thoy will not oomniit a sin hy ho iloii.K', hooauso thoy aro igm)rani."
A tow minuloH aftor Mr. .lohn Md.iron, of I'ort-a,. , or.il, on'oml tho kitohon; I asked
him thon for nown of tho oounty in rolalion lo iho olooiion ; our .onvor.ation rolato.l to hu.I, news
an t to tho i.rinoiplo which hIiouUI govorn politioal mon ; attor that oonvor.ation, Mr..'"'"'
McLi.ron William Savanl and Franyois Itor^oron, woi.t out ol n,y i.ro.hytcry ; immodiatoly ultor
wardH i ontorod ,ny otlko alono, .■.nd I did not npeak any moro either to Johnny l.o«b.o.m or be ..re
ttuOhim; William Savard wa. not a voter a. the la.i elootion; William Savard ,s ,n tho habit ol
comiiiK often to my ,.ro.byle.-y and KranyoiH Uorgoron wa. thon working' at my houno ; 'l-'«'"« ^''«
..onvomition Johnny Dosbio.s. did .ot ank mo any question and i do not remember .1 be «poko to
mo during the oonvorMilion i huvo just k'^'""'
1 Hweur noMtivoly that 1 did not then say to Johnny l)c«bions, that to vole for Mr. P. A
-rrcnblav, was a mortal sin ; 1 said what 1 have stated ubovo, and 1 said that to all ol them s.neo all
oflluMi. were lisionin^ I this oonvorsation lasted about throo..iiiarters of an hour, -t was an oidina.y
oonvorMition.anJ I Imd not the intention o. intluonein, the vole "^ •'''''-'^^^'7': :^'a',7
HeiKoron , I thon know the opinion of Kran.jois nergeron, who was lor .bo Uolendanl, but 1 d,d not
know what was the opini.m of Johnny Desbiens, and, I did not ask bun.
46S0 When I answered tho widow Foster, as I statoc' aKovo, William Savard. Fraiujois Bergeron tho
elder, and Johnny Desbiens, were present and heard what I said to hor ; I know Nareisso Uouehard.
of St. Simeon, farmer, a witness examined in this eauso.
On tho 20tb January, during tho night, 1 spoke of politie. to the said Nareisso Bouehard, wbilo
he was driving mo for tho siek t,. Baie-des-Itoehors, a distance of nine milos from "0' F^-'O'l^O ■
,lH. eonversation l«sto.l, at the most, live mi.iutos, I do not remember to bavo told him hat it wn,s a
..„se of eonseioneoto vote for Mr. Tren.blay ; because, a« an ordinary thing, I do not make use of to
like oNprossions when 1 am speaking to persons who have noodueali<m : It is probable that 1 spoke
to him oflbe letter of the Bishops, and of Huntingdon's speoeh ; I do not remember to have pro-
nouneed even the nan.o of Mr. I'. A. Tremblay ; 1 began, myself, by saying that ,t would bo a hotly
4.,0con.est.Hl election,- l.o political conversation began in that way ; 1 bad no intention whatever of
Influencing the voto of Nkrci-« Bouchard, I thought, in fact, that ho had no vote ; this conversation
look place by chance ami was of no importance whatever.
t I1088-EXAMINED.
1 believe that the word St. Simeon was written in full on the document T Rpoke of a while ago,
when 1 wrote in place of it St. Fiddle; the change 1 m.wlo, I made immodiatoly after having
written St. Simeon, with the same ink and the .amo pen; the letters aro not made in the same
manner in the correction which 1 made ol tho date; they aro so in tho bmiy of the writing, because
in making a correction one does not write as he usually writes, an.l because I often change my
handwriting.
m
176
Tl
le ex
tractri from Mr. Iliiritiiigdoii^spece
h wliieli I loail, wcM'c taken from Le Canadien ; I do
not tliink 1 had any oUior pn
i .,!■ tl.c iidclity of those extracts, but that they wore give
in Le Cana-
dien; I tooU at the same
time the NoUiu'nu- Mowle am
hill)! V the sanio
thiiit:; I aliwmt ahvavM pn
1 the Couirler 'hi Canada, and they contained pro-
It faith ill wliattlioso journals Hayofthoir I
1)0
iliticaladvorsaiiea
iilly as regsirds imliiic speo
h(^s' tiie bearing I attributed to Mr. Uuntiiigdon's Bpocc
h cons'
isted
,1 „ Mr Tivmhi'iv supported tiio (iovcnimeiit of which Mr. Huntingdon
, unew at tlie tunc • ) ^ ,.^,„,„, ,, ,„, ,„ew it; my intention wan then to
; Isidered it as being a dechvrution of war again, the Cuthobc lel.gion.
,-,„nnt tb-.t there is aiiioii- the Catholic clergy of the Pro-
:':s;:;:-:" "^^i" -— ^^^^^^^ -• -'>■ ■—■ '- -'•» •'-
rest of the Othulic elegy a. onterlaiu.ug orroneou, lehg.ous idea.
O^cctcl to by the Detbudant a. tending to ,.,.ove tact. n„. pertinent to the i.ue -f this cause.
Objection sustained.
. , ,, ,„„ ,,„„ ,1,,, , 1.1,.,,,. U, n f,„,ti™, ..r iho 0«>l,',fc c-l.'1-SJ "I'"-!' ~"'"l""
r;;;";:."Ti:: i:;;.:^ :.ni" ^■'-" --o- ■"■'-'■"• - «-' '»"' ' '>■ '
.„„ oi,,.. ,„ 1..V ti,o i.or«„.i». ^ 1... !"..-» '.'• - "" P™-'""^ ""'»"°" • '"■'■ ■" ""'"
a fad \vi\ich is not proved.
Ob'. '111 sustained.
Thl Petitioners taUe exception to this decision, and reserve to themselves the right of causing it
to be revised by the Supreme Court.
Q„„s„.,nlM. i,-«>i-M,.,...,un..a,,,,..r-ia»..-y«»;;.-S:i:T"'""''"
x:::z::::::::r2::,z:i.:.y .,».o, „r ,.,1.,.. ». cv,, m,.... »
, . .. r^,r.nH.vnf Ist because Mr. Huntington's speech is not proved m tin
this
issue ill this cause.
iTIO Ol'jcctioii dismissed. , , , . ,
Answer.-I thinU it is not true, when I read Huntingdon's speech, and when I b,o. at and
consi.ler the sense of the words contained in that speech.
■A^^ w„, tjRvard Francois Bergeron and Johny Dosbions, could
Mr. Huntingdon formed party.
Objected to by the Defendant, as tending to elicit the opinion of outsiders.
Obiection reserved on the merits.
,,„„,,er.-I did not hear a word from those persons to lead me to believe that thoy were under
!>*-',
117
f
tho impresHion that the}- would commit a hIii if thoy voted for Mr. Ti omblay ; moreover, I could not
4740 see what passed in llie scuiet of their conscience.
Question.— Wan it not the object of your words to make them understand that a Catholio
could not, without siiiiiinj,', vole for a candidate supporting a Government of which Mr. Hunting-
don formed part ?
Answer.— If I had spoken as a pastor, and not as a citizen, my words, if they had been well
understood, might perhaps have caused those persons to believe that it was a sin to veto for Mr.
P. A. Tremblay.
tiucstion.— Did you say to those persons that you were then speaking as a citizen and not an
a pastor V
Answer. — I did not say it to them ; 1 was not uskcd tor counsel or advice.
1750 (iuestion. — Is it not true that when a cuie, even pi'ivately, says to his parishioner that a thing
is a din, that parishioner cannot do it without sinning?
Objected to by the Defendant, as tending to elicit the opinion of the witness.
Objection sustained.
I was for the Defendant at the election in ([ucslion, but I was not a voter,
I spoke in favor of his candidature when an opportunity offered.
I let tho Defendant see that I was for him, when ho came to visit mo at Ihepresbyterj' of St.
Simeon; we spoke for hardly more than tive minutes; I asked him for news of the election, and he
U)\d nic tho number of votes ho calculated on having at Baic St. Paul ; I did not tell him on how
many votes he might count at St. Simeon, I di ! not meet Onesimo Gauthier during tho election ;
4760 f hail occasion to sj)eak of this election with Mr. Tremblay, cure of St. Fidele, perhaps also with
the cure of Malbaie, but I am not sure ; I did not speak of it to any other cure.
This deposition is adjourned to 9th Sept., 1871).
Deposition continued, 9th Sept , lrt76.
(Question. — Style iho conversation you say 3'ou had with the cure of St. Fidele, and perhaps also
with the <'iire of Miilbaie, on the subject of the election ?
Answer. — 1 do not lemembera single word of those conversations.
{Question. — State the sense and tenor thereof ?
Answer .—The conversation, if 1 remember well, related solely to the supporters Mr. Langevin
might have in this election, and to subjects altogether indifferent to this court.
Question. — What are the subjects indifferent to the court to which you make allusion ?
Answer. — It would be difficult to enumerate them, but they had no relation to the election.
Question. — Enumerate them to the best of your power ?
Answer. — I have no recollection of thom at all.
Question. — Do you swear that you remember absolutely nothing of those subjects?
«70
178
Answer.— Yes.
QuoHlion.— llow then wore you able to swear just uow that thoy were foreign to the court and
to the election ?
Answer.— Hecmise 1 do no; remember thut we spoke of what concerned the election, apart from
the tirstdeclaralion 1 made a while a-o, namely, that we began to speak ot the supporters Mr.
4780Langevin might have.
I do not remembe.- .it this moment whellier any answer was made to the (lueslion, how many
supporters the JJot'endant might havo.
Question.— Did you give to your other parisiiioners. or to any of them, the same explanations
you gave to Francois Hergu-on, the elder, VVm. Savard and .lolmny Uesbiens ?
Answer.— I gave about the same explanation to liernaid Dallairo, who was not an elector, aud
1 do not remember having done so to any other.
tiuestion.— Did you rea.l from the pulpit to your parishioners the pastoral loiter of the bishops
by you produieil in court ?
Answer. — Yes.
4700 (Juestior..-Did you, then or sin.'e during the election or shortly before give in the pulpit or
elsewhere, to your parishioners, explanations on the .-aid pastoral letter ?
Answei-.^Ycs.
(Question.— State the tenor and seiipc (d those explanations?
Vnswer.-l remember a detinition, which might be called vulgar, which 1 gave of Catholic
Liberalism, condemned by the said pastoral letter; this doHnitiou consisted in this--' Catholic
'• Liberalism condemned bv our Holy Father Pius IX. and by the bishops of this Province is a
" certain coward inatlirnung the truth, and through which men seek to palliate error under whatever
'• form it i.resents itself; " I remember also having said to my hearers, that it was not allowed to
say in public meetings that the clergy had no right to meddle in politics, and that the prio.st .should
4800 ^^ay in the veMry ; these words 1 have just <,uotci served to comment on and oxpbi.n the chapt.e."
of the pastoral leUer of the bishops, entitled, " Part to be taken ^Role) of the clergy ui politics, I
aUo said that that pastoral of the bishops was binding sab ijnwe.
I then exidained that sub jmre meant under pain of grievous sin.
It had not been said at the door of the church, nor elsewhere in my parish, tliat the priests had
not the right to meddle in politics and that thoy ought to remain In the vestry
(Question.— V*'as it the object of your explanations to let it be understood, that the pastoral con-
demned one of the parties then competing for the votes ot the electors?
Answ-r-l only remember having said what I have .luoted above in onler to explain the
pastoral letter ■ I do not know whether by those words, and those explanations or comments, ray
4810 hearers found t'liat one party was condemned by the said explanations or comments, had for object
to condemn political Liberalism.
The witness declares that hj meant to say Catholic Liberalism, and not political Liberalism,
just now.
179
Quction.-Wiw it tlie object ,.f y,.ur oxplui.ationK thiil Mr. Trcmblay's party wan comlomned
I))- the pastoral 'I
Answer —My oxi.lai.alionH l.ail for their object to condemn Catholic Liberalism and, if, then, Mr.
I'. A. Trembhiy was aCJathoiic Liberal, and the party which ho sustained, evidently my oxplaiia-
lions might have been calculated to condemn Mr, Tremblay's party.
Quostion.-Would you consider Mr. Tremblay's party as professing the doctrine of Liberal
<820(;atholicism?
Objected to by Defendant as tending to elicit the opinion of the witness.
Objection set aside.
The Defendant takep exception to this judgment.
Answer. — Yes.
(Question.- You wished, did you not, to cause it to be considered so by your hearers?
Objected to by the Defendant on the same grounds as the preceding question.
Objection set aside.
The Defendant takes exception to this judgment.
Answer. — Yes.
4830 (iueslion.-Aud you so expressed yourself, did you not, as to make your l.ourers share your
opinions V
Answer. — Yes.
Apart from the persons I have mentiot>ed, I do not remember having spoken to any person
whomsoever about the election ; the name of Michel Trcmblay being suggested to me, I
remember having spoken to him al^mt the election, during the election.
1 read to him a letter from my brother, the Rev. Napoleon Cinq-Mars, ex-cure of St. Fidale.
Qucstion.-Is it not true that in that letter, so road by you. the Catholic Liberalism condemned
bv the bishop- was not in the moon, but in certain political men ?
Answer. — Yes.
4840 tiuestion.-You tried, did you not, lo bring Michel Trcmblay to understand the same thing ?
A„Hwer-l only remember having read to him the said letter, and I do not remember having
commented on that letter, because I had other things to read, such as other letters and newspapers.
I chatted about the election sometimes with Mr. John McLaren, when he came to see me, which
hedoes pretty often, even out of election times; Idid not speak with himabout Catholic Liberalism,
but only about Huntington's speech.
Question -Is it not true that the said Mr. McLaren discharges the duties of a minister for the
Protestants of that part of the country, and strives to make proselytes amongst the Catholics of
the locality ?
An«wer.-1 know nothing at all of the kinJ, for I have no proof in order to answer afTirmaiively.
4850 Quostion.-Did you, last autumn, see Mr. Fafard, cure of St. Urbain, and Mr. 0.,esime
Gauthier, the local member?
■> iJt I -.
4(
180
Answer — Yen; in the beginning of October.
Question.— Is it not true timt iho object of their visit to .St. Simoon, and to the lower part of
the county in generol, wiih to induce the clergy to oppose Mr. Troniblay, if ii now election took
pliico ?
Ohjcctoil to by the Dolbii.lant.— Ist, Hocauso the objoi't is to prove facts a,:,'ainst Mosarn.
(Jauthior and Kafanl, not monlioncd in the piirticular-* ; 2nd, Hocauso this question tends to prove a
general system of undue clerical intluence.
Objection reserved on the murits.
4HC0 Answer. — From the conversation 1 hiwl with tlio-.o gontlcmon, on thoir visit to St. Simeon, I
know that the object of thoir vis't was oidy to conu; to scu mo ; 1 franidy ailiuit that, in fuct, from
tlie convemition, I thought them in favor of Mr. Troinblay.
r mot those {,'ontlcmen at tlio pro^hytory of St. Tidulo (m the following day, and 1 do not
romomhor tliat any one spoke a^'ainst Mr. Ti'OTnljlay ; I oidy remomhor that wo si)oko of Ilicl, to
doplore his liilo.
I have read the correspondence signed, " un Cure do ('liarlovoi.x," in " Lo Courricrdu Canada."
The witness is handed a number of " Lo Courrier du Canada," dated the 12th Alay last, fylod an
Kxhihil II of (ho l>otiiionors at the nt'/uete, and ho is asked il the corrospondenco thoroin is that
of which ho has just spoken.
4P70 Tho Dofondant objects to the produriion of the exhibit in <iucsti..n as i)niving a laci posterior
lo tho election, and of "a nature to prove a ^i,'eno:al system of undue clerical influence.
Objection I'cserved on the nioiits.
The witness answers yes.
I do not ktuiw the writer of it.
(iuestion.— State whether tho following passages contain the truth as to the .iction of (ho
clergy in the election in question, " 1st, The clergy of Charlovoix have then courageouMy entered
"into the struggle, and they have endeavored to conduct the contest with all possible prudence
" remaining wUhin the limits of tho civil and ecclesiastical laws; 2nd, In the first place, let us say
"distinctly that the clergy of Charlevoix are not ashamo.l of having acce|.ted the candidature of
4880 " the Honorable Mr. Langevin, and of having done their best in his favor, while roM rioting thom-
" solves within tho limits of tho provincial councils, tho ])astoral letters, and the civil laws. And
" 1 do not see that tlioy have conunitiod a crime in so doing. Are wo not citizens like others ? "
Answer taken under the same objection as tho preceding question.
Answer.— r admit tho truth of what is stated in tho second of tho said extracts ; but I do not
admit the truth of tho first, beginning by tho words, " the clergy of Charlovoix," becau-e tho terms
used therein are exaggerated, because it speaks ol eonilucting the contest, and not merely of
favoring.
1 have denied in a letter to His Lordship tho Archbishop having ever said to any of my
parishioner.s that it was a mortal sin to vote for Mr. Tremblay.
4g90 Question.— Is it not true that in tho same letter you said that you had ne\er insinuated the
same thing from the pulpit ?
Objected to by the Defendant because tho letter is not produced.
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181
Objortion HOt Mido,
A.iMwor.-I do not reinomluT thcRo wor.lM, " i.ovor inHinuatcd i" whut I wanted to deny in that
letter was the luct of Imving waid tliiit it wan u niortul win.
Question.- Did you monn in tiuit letter to «ive II.h Lordnhip the Anhbinhop to underntand not
only that yon hud ..oi .aid that it wuh u mortal sin to vote for Mr. Tn>mbl»y, but oven that you had
not said at uU that it wub u sin of any kind ?
AnBwor. — Yei».
41,00 tiuoH.ion.-ln the election ol 1H7 I, between Mr. Trcmblay and Mr. Chauveau. you were at flrHt
neutral, wore you not? then you became hostile U. Mr. Tren^blay? Stale the reason ot that
hostility.
Objected to by the Defendant oh not pertinent lo the isHu. ,
Objoution HUMtaincd.
QuoBtion.-l« it not true that you chanKod your opinion in the said election because you
received from Mr. Chauveau, or from .omo other person, the promise of a sum ot one hundred and
fifty dollars, or any other sum?
Objected to by tlie Defendant as not perlinent to the issue.
Objection net aside.
4!»10 Answer. — No.
(iuo«tion.-Didyougetanypn-misesor.inyt,Mft. »f money from Mr. Chauveau during the
said election ?
Objected to by the Defendant as not perlinent.
Objection sustained.
Question.-Woro you, in the said election of 1S74, influenced in your con.hut toward, the
candidates by any promises or any gifts, or any expectations of money, or other a.lvaotage*.'
Answer.— I was not influenced hy the promise of a certain sum of money which was made to
me for the Fabrique of St. Simeon.
The conversation I hnd at my presbytery with William Savanl, Francois Horgoron and Johnny
49.>0Desbeins, took place on my return of a visit I had made to the sick ; 1 had f:<.nc to the house of
" Thomns Bouchard, the father of Narcisse ; the latter, had driven mo there, an<i Dosbiena had
brought me back.
I do not think that Savard and Bergeron wore there when I arrived; they came only after
dinner and Desbiens had arrived before, but had gone- to unharness his horse ; 1 cannot say who
entered the kitchen first; it is quite probable that it was Bergeron, seeing that he was working at
my place.
Deposition adjourn
Deposition pu
led to 11th September, 1876.
to 12th September, 187(J.
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mo
ihc iiloili of
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12lh SoptomU'r, I87<1, il<'p«»«ili<in roituincJ.
RR'RXAMINCD.
I K,,.,ko Honictimo-. <.f llu. ol«cti..iiH in my |.roHhytoiy. inndcntftily, lo M.mi< ,.orH<.n. wh.. cum*
to »«o mo UH ..1' uny other HuhjoctH. Imt not lor Iho i..i> ]Mmo ol cunva^MnK' I'-r Mr, I.unKovin , I only
»awil, TmnKovin ci.ninK tht el' ■ . .n ,r Hvo or -ix minute ; it wu. hut u simplo v.-il ol .■...mony
or i«lii. „..N. ; 1.0 .li.l not ii.U n. ■• -k for l.im, nor <lia I promiHo to work tr.r liim.
That iH all 1 tli.l for tl.o Dofcn.lu.it, un-l that Ik what I ww.tod U, .tut». when ...yinK in my
,„.,flH;o„ „Hor<Ml , t)..> imrish ..I Si.Himn..n i« ih.- I.^^t pumh ul ll.- eu«len, ext.om.tyol iho.ounty,
unci I' >i t<ma1i |mri
Tho «.ljoininK ,>urish to .he «'..t i. S. Ki.loU- tlm ..no of which i. Mr. Tromhluy ; 1 l.ml not
49., ar,l it Ktnc.l .1 >l it hu.l h.-n H.i.l „, tin ^loor ..» iho ohurrh, or .,lH«wi,oro .n my ,..ir.Hh. thu tl..
"""""^" ,,, .... , .. .i,„,,ttl,iiilM?ciiui-e it wa« rofurrec to in Ihi. paHloriil
jHi.'Mh hud no right to mciMlf in |polim;n, 1 -pok.-f tuiii tM-<.iuM) ii «»»
lot tor.
'J I M.. 'rv..iiil.liiv'i< iiiirtv iv* niol'oHHifit; the (loitrinon of
QupKtion- Stale why you conrndercil Mr. lioiiii.lu.\ x purij |.i
Catholif Libor.ili».m, M you huvo nuid in your <r,mH-cxuu>inut.on .
An.wor.-Whon I Hui.l th... I < m.I.mvI Mr. TrornhhtyV ,..u-i, u. prolb...
Cu.lH.li. Lihoruli^n, I meant to .peak of tho.. who, in that party. pro.eM.e-l such .
n.oan I., nay timt 1 conHidorcd Mr. Tromblay a. u t'uthoiio LiLoral.
(iuos.ion.-Sta.c how your ....planations c-uld load y-ur hoar..-, to oo. dor Mr, TremblayV
party m profoKwin^; thu idea of Cath-lio Lihoralism ■'
^(.^o AnHW(-r-lM„„koinai;onoralwuv; ii was M.Hl.ici,t, in my opinion, to rosU i. i-u rau-ttcr
'•'"and ^;:;:.hl '..0 of .;r. ■...;.: 1 did not .n,d<o allu-jm to any political ^'-^ ; --
positively .hall did not .ay i" the pul; it .i .o word.: " Mr. Tremblay s par.v 1,. homblay
himnelf," " tho pror<ont dovornment."
tiuoslion.- Stato how you oxprasnod yo, r-olt in ordor to loml your h. . adopt your
opiidon, ixx you have wii.l in your crosKexauiii uion ■.'
Answer -loontinodmy.olf to dotinin«('i, i„.iic I,il.oial,sm, in order t,. pi.i
Iheir Kuard a^^tinnt those who ndixht ho i-. that .rror; as .,uolud by mo above in
alHO stated that tho^o who .aid that the do.«y h. 1 nolhin^^ lo do with I"' .'>-. «'";;;
and disohe.liont to .1,0 bishops; this i« not insinuating' t.. my hearers that Mr.
4a,oCatholio Liberal, and that his party was con,lom.w 1 as a polil.oal par.> ; conlon.-.
oxplainin,' the p.-istoral letter in a f^eneral manno. that ,h what 1 n.-ai.t to say when
I'llad in.ii-tcd mv opinion to my hearers; if 1 h: i insinuated to my hoarers ih.d Sh
,,a,,y was oondonuiod bv the bishops, ft.id that Mr Tre.nblay was a ( atholio Liberal, . -
I^inoed that few would have voted for Mr. T. n.blay, whilo the contrary took pla. ,n my
r ish Mr. Tre.nblay had the n.ajority, and Mr. -ron.blays loadors in my parish are .-oted
S dies- what 1 tl.ou;,ht does not change the me. .ng of what 1 said : 1 did no, ,ns,„uu,o o my
hoa that it was a mortal sin to vote for M,- Tro,. Way, since a few days atter the sermon I said
he CO n r y n my kitchen to .ny housekeeper, wh- ..nsulted me to know whether her children-
who ncverlhl-, luul heard the sermon-would c,o„ nit a mortal sin in vot.-.g lor Mr. Ircmblay.
,^0 Question.-State what was the part played by tk. clergy of Charlevoix in the .said election.
hoaroi-B oi>
ovidenco, I
i'crous men
■ i:i\ was a
»>elf with
stated thai
'rcinblay's
lirmly
n(
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183
and what miikes you think that tho second jmiagmph of a eorrespondonco in " Lo Courrier da
Canada" contains tlio truth, as ynu Imve stated in your crorts-examination ?
Answer.— Porsonally, I do not know of any oi-yanization of ihe fier<,'y to make Mr. Langcviu
isucceed in liis election ; when 1 t-iud thai I admitted tlio truth of the said extract from^that
journal, I understood by tho words, "accepted tlio condition of lion. Mr. Langevin," tliat the
Bympathicsof tjio clergy were for the Defendant.
As to tho words, '• having done their hesi in his liivor, while restricting themselves within the
limits of the provincial councils, tho pa.storal letters," 1 meant that 1 thought that tho clergy had
read and explained tho pastoral letter as 1 had done it myself, and because 1 thought that the cures
4!)80wcre obliged to read the said letter, and explain it; 1 thought that they had'^all fulliUed that
obligation.
1 do not know how the cures commented on the pastoral letter; I do not, in fact, know
whether all the cures read that pastoral letter.
I do not know what tho clergy did in order to favor the candidature of the Defendant; i
know nothing about it.
RE-CROSS-KXAMI.VEI).
Question.— Iliive you any reasons to believe that the other cures of the county have less
authority over their parishioners than you have over yours ?
Answer. — No.
4990 My object in explaining Ihe pastoral letter was to show that Catholic Liberalism was
condemed, and in the event that there might be (lolitical men professing tho ideas ol' (latholic
Liboialism.
• Quostiou.— Was it your object, yes ()]• no, to apply what you then said to the election.
Answer. — Yes ; Imt it was not my intention to lead my hearers to beliovo by tiioseexplanationa
that Mr. Tremblay was a Catholic Liberal; those explanations applied to the election, and 1
conformed, 1 think, to the spirit of the pastoral letter.
(Question. — Were tho^e exj)lanalioiis in youi- inlention, yes or no, dir^cUil a"ain>t Mr. Trem-
blay, against liis party, or against any ot bis friends ?
Answer.— My intention was to ajiply tho ex]ilanations, as I said before, to ihofc in his party
6000 who professed the ide;is of t::atholic Liberalism ; as to .VL'. Tromblay's pirty, a> ;i p )litical party, 1
have stated al)ove what wa.s my intention in giving those explanations; as to .Mr. Tremblay liim>elf,
1 have stated above, in my ro examination, what my in(on(ion was; as lo .Mr. Trcmblay's friends,
atthe particular (imo when I gave those explanations I was not thinking of his friends, consequently
I had no intention of applying to them those explanalions; I should have been hard .sot at tho
moment to tell tho name of Mr. Tromblay's friends.
1 have spoken, since 1 was oxaniined in court tho other day, of the first part of mv evidence
with tho Defendant's advocate, and I have read that part of my evidence, and I leatl it through
moro curiosity.
Question. — Is it not true that ^-ou have read and .spoken about it to the Defendant's advocate in
SOlOordor to prepare yourself for the reexamination you were to undergo?
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Answer. — Yes.
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ors in tlio election
WiiB it the objoct of your cxj)lanatii)nw of llio pastf "al, yos or no, to influence the
tlicn
;;oinf,' rjn
?
Answer. — No; tiio object of my explanation was to put the oloctorH on tlieir j^uard against
Catholic Liberalinm, wherever found.
Qnostion. — Was it tlio object of your explanations, ye» or no, to produce an effect on your
hearers ?
Answer.— The only effect F had the intention of producinj? on my hearers was to persuade thorn
that Catholic Liberalism was dangerous, and tliat it was condemned ; my cxplunations wore, but iu
,1020 other words, a repetition of the jiasloral.
I wished to apply those explanations to those to whom they jiroperly applied.
Question.— Did thoy apply, in your intention, to .Mr. Lani,'ovin or his party?
Answer. — Those explanations or comments did not apply, 1 think, more to Mi'. Langevin than
to another; they did not apply, I think, to his party.
Question.— Were they directed against Mr. Langevin, or against his party ?
Answer. — I think not.
(iueslioii. — Were they directed against persons, or against a party, you believe to exist in this
country ?
Answer. — I do not believe thuy were directed against a party which exists in this country; I
SOyOsaid just now that my ex])lanali()nsor comments wore but a repetition of the pastoral letter of the
bishops, and that pastoral letter, if I remember well, does not speak of party; in that pastoral
letter, I do not remember, in relation to Liberalism, that it is stated that there are jjcrsons who
professed those ideas; [ remember only that Catholic Liberalism is condemned in a general
manner.
My intention was that there might be in the country Catholic Liberiils, since the pastoral
denounced them ; I confined myself to giving a definition of Catholic Liberalism; I did not com-
ment on that part of the pastoral which commences by the words, "Thii>:i political ])arty."
(Question. — Do you swear in your soul and conscience, without reticoiico or mental restriction,
that by the reading of the pastoral and the explanations you gave thereof you had no intention
5040 whatever of injuring the election of Mr. Trcmblay, and of favoring that of Mr. Langevin?
Answer. I had no intention whatever of injuring Mr. TremMiiy ; nor bad I the intention
when I read that pastoral letter, if I remember well, of favoring .Mr. Langevin ; 1 deemed myself
obliged to read that pastoral letter, and to explain it during the election ; my intention was to obey
'tie bishops.
Question. — Do you swear that it was a matter of indifTerence to you that the ohction should bo
gained by Mr Langevin or by Mr. Trcmblay? .
Objected to by the Defendant as not pertinent.
Objection set aside.
Answer. — No, for my sympathies were for Mr. Langevin.
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fi060 Question.— Why wore your Hympalhios for Mr. Lnngnvin rather than for Mr. Treniblay?
Objected to by the Defendant as not arising from ro-examination and tending to elicit
uselertrt and illegal evidence.
Question withdrawn.
Question.— Is it not true that your sympathies were for Mr. Langevin, because you thought
that religion would bo more in safety with Mr. Langevin than with Mr. Tremblay ?
Objected to by the Defendant as tending to elicit the opinion of the witness and the motives of
his symj)athy, and because such proof is useless and illegal.
Objection set aside.
Answer.— I believed that the interests of religion would be more favored by Mr. Langevin,
6070 because in Mr. Tremblay's party there was a man of the name of Huntington who, I believe.l, had
made a declaration of war against religion.
It was my intention that the answers I gave on Saturday should contain the truth, and they do
contain it, if 1 was not mistaken; 1 did not speak of Mr. Huntington from the pulpit.
This deposition being read by the witness, he desires to add the following words, to wit : When
ho said herein before in the re-examination that he had roa<l a part of his cvi.lenco, he adds, " and
also to see whether my aaswers were sufficiently explicit, that is to say, explained wel my lull
intention in answe.'ing ; and, moreover, the witness desires to slate that on Saturday, l.'ist in the after-
noon, he was greatly fatigued and in fact indisposed, so much so that he was unable to proceed to
his parish, in order to officiate therein on the following day.
FRS. CINQ-MARS, Priest.
Taken and sworn ")
before me, in open Court, at Malbaie, this V
lathday of September, 1876. )
^. 3. RocTHiia, J. S. C.
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DiNtrirt ol Sa^ufua}'. S
SUPERIOR COURT.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
Election of a Member tor the flnisc of Commons, for tlw. Electoral District of rharlcv>ix, MUbMe,
I2th Septemlicr, 1>S"().
Present— Hon. A. B. Routhieu, J. S. 0,
BRASSAUD, et. al.. Petitioners,
I'.s'.
Hon. H. L. LAvaEViN, Defen<liiiit.
EVIDENCE O.V BEHALF OF THE DEFEMD,\NT
5080 J"**"!''' J^fani'*'-''^ IV>rniiilt, Ks.inirc. iiilvo.'ute, of tlu- p.arlsli of M;iU.:iio, houv' duly sworn on tlio
Jloly KviUiyelistH. dcposelh and suitli; —
I know Sorapliin Lnjoio and Nralvina Dioniie (lii^ wiCo), witnesses l.caid in this cause; 1 wan
present in court when they gave tlioro eviiimice.
When the requisition to Mr. Kane, oi' which tlio snid Lijoie and the said MaJvina Dionno
spoalf, was siii-nod hv the said Tiijoie, there were ,.rosent in my office Sorapliin Viiienciive, of
Malhaie, farmer, a witness hcanl in this cause, Lajoie himself, and my.self; I am ut.<lor the impros.s.on
that there was then another man in myollico, hut I cannot, say at what time he arriv.d; f Indieve
that the requisition was signed in the first room of my ojlice ; when Seraphin Lajoie signed the
requisition, Malvina L^ionne, his wife, certainly was not in my ollico.
6090 Liijoiocame into my said olRi'O with the said Sera|.hin Villoncucvo; Iho latter said to mc, I
hring you a man disuoaod to sign the rc(iui.-itiou to Mr. Kane, or something to tlial cll'ect , then i
prop7)sed to Fiajoie that J .should attach his signature to the re(|uisition if he ronsonted, and 1 added,
half seriously and u little in joke, that I had .louhts as to his conversion, or s.mething to that
effect; thereupon ho protested his sinc^erily, .saying that he couhl not he ag.iin^t .\rr Kane, who
had done him services; he then tol.l me to aftach his signature helow tlie rcqui-ition, which I did ;
flien I took leave of .Scrai.hin Lijoie ; 1 went into the back r.oni. a. w,ll as 1 can remcmher, with
wSeraphin Villcnouvo; I think also that the other man, of whom 1 have spoken, went in with u.s,
and this while the naid Lajoie wa.s going out of my offlco.
On th ^ day of the signing of the requisition hy Lajoie, 1 did not m "ot the latter, nor his wife, at
5100 tl>o '!'«"• "f ■^1«'- ('"lli'i-d's house, to give them the invitation of which she speaks in her deposition ;
1 never said to Seraphin Lajoie. nor to his wife, the said Malvina Dionne, that if the said S.^raphin
Lajoio wont with Mr. Kmo, or with the Djfen laat, in this cause, he would hear nothing more
of the action which he had with his mother; that he would pay no costs in relation to the .said action,
or other words having tho .amc aenno and the same bearing, which I could not do, as I wtw a mero
1K7
attoriifyin hi« .nil with hin moll.er; I huvc fuill.or t.. .locluro ll.ut in ll.o election in que«Uon I
had boon sovernl times informed that the mii.l L;ij(.io w.i-a spy ; (hat he deehvrod h.inH.-il U. bo in
favour of Mr. Lan(,'eviii in ordor to rind out the Hecrots of tiic party.
The said Malvina Dionnc came to my office once alter the election to ask me if I had went the
letter which her husband hwi directed me to writ.' to a person 1 think of St. Iron66 ; she told me
SllOthat her husband was then absont, and that ho ha<l -lircctcd hor to -el ihat inlbrmatw.n ; I did not
Heo the Haid Malvina Dionne in my otllco in.MMiipany with hor l.usband during the .aid election.
I swear po.sitivelv that 1 did not say to Malvina Dionnc what she stales in her evidence, that
iBto say, "It 18 y.m who are the cause that the action is now going on, because it is you who
prevented your husband from -oin- with us ;" 1 saw that woman at my ofllce, as I have just sai.l,
two or three m.mths after the clcai-.n ; I <lo not remember having .con her at myotUccatany
other time, and never did I speak to her ..f the suit which 1 had against her husband, at least I do
not remember it.
There was never anyquestion between mo and f. joie iu relation to a j-romiso connected with
his vote in favor of the Defendant, or of Mr. Kane.
5120 (iuestion.-Ploase state who in the parish' of St. Simeon are the persons who ai o reputed to be
the principal parlizansof Mr. Tremblay?
Objected to as being foreign to the suit.
Objection maintained
QueHtion.-Do you know Serapbin (iuorin, of St Simton, farmer, and please Htate if he took an
active part in the .said election, and for what candidate ?
Objected to as foreign to the suit.
Objection maintained.
I was present during the election at a meeting held at Joseph McXicols, at St Agnes; so faraa
I can remember, the Defendant at that meeting said that he had the support of the clergy, or
5130 hat the clorgv sympathized with him; but he did not say that the eloctors-at least 1 do not
remember it-ought to listen to the voice of their pastor and respond to the appeal of thoi'
bishops, or of the bishop.
CaoSS-BXAMINID.
1 have acted in this suit as counsel to the advocate of the Defendant, and in that capacity 1
cross-examined some witnesses, especially Seraphin Lajoio.
I think, without, however, being able to assort it positively, that Lajoio s])oko to mo during
the course of tho election of his suit and of the desire which ho felt to got rid of it.
This deposition be - read, the witness porsisteth therein, declaring that it contain*
the truth, and hath signei.
J. S. PElUiAULT.
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Taken and sworn 'I
before me, in open Court, at Malbaio, this V
12th,Scptember, 1876. )
A. B. EOUTHIBR, J. S. C.
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Frovhueonjnebec, I STTPEHlOR CUUR
niHtrUJ of SaniH'niiy. J "^ '-' IT -C:-' i »■ J. V^' A \ V^'W W *
DOMINION CONTROVKRTED ELECTIONS X'T, IH7t.
EUdion of a Afemher for the Hume <if Communx. hr thi- Klertoral District oj • 'harli m ,\ Malbiut,
' VMh .ieptcmhir, IHTU.
Present— The Hon. A. B. Rou rniER, J. S. 0.
BIIASSAUD et al., Petitioners,
vs.
Hon. TI, L. Lanokvin, Defendant
EVIDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE DEFEND A NL
5J40 iHi-ftel Tarto, KHquiro, jonrnalist, <.('(ii.ol.oc, liviiif,' duly nvvorii .;n iho Holy KvunKolints, ilopoMuth
and Hiiith ; —
I know the piirtioH in thin cmisn ; 1 uin iicillior a rcliitivo, nor ii connootion, nor a Morvant, nor
a domcHtio of any thorn ; I havo no inloroot in the result of tliiH suit.
I was tho agent of the Dofondant fiurinj; tlio last election.
The extract and account« fylwl in this ciiiiio l.y Chr.rloH DuHorgor, K^quire, roturning-officor,
were jiroducod hy mo; tho oxponsos mentioned in IhooxtrMcl and tho account produced were ineui-
rod an>! paid lor tho purpoxos of tho said election, and weio necoHhary for the election, and 1 cori-
s'derod thom as legal.
Tho outlay of eight dollars, entered as the 1st item in tho extract of aicniiiii. was incurred ami
.....paid by motor travelling exiienses and tho calling of moelings, before my appointment as Mr.
Langovin's agent wa.- fylod with tho roturuing-otticoi- ; Mr. Langovin had, however, then asked mo
to bo his agent.
I accompanied tho Dofondant in tho county, and those expenses w;ire inciiri'od from thoiilst
December last (187,'}) to tho 4th Jatuiary, also, last (1876) ; no account was fylod with mo for that
item; they were paid to various persons, .and in cash, and for purposes necessary to tho said election ;
the Dofondant arrived in the county for the first time on tho 31st De(;ember.
From tho 31st Docomber, 187.5, to the 4lh January, F wont through a part of ihe county with
tho Dofenilant, and it was auring that journey that thoso eight dollars wore paid for outlay and
expenses, as I havo said.
5J60 As to tho 2nd item of tho extract (carters, to call the meotinga, &(i., 3218.95) I did not pro.
duco a detailed account to tho returning-olBcor, because no account had boon fyloJ wit'i me ; those
ilti
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expoM.oH wuro ,...,.! by ...« w mnm u. Incurred, »n.l I Uc,.l »n a.rount .,( thorn .iuy hy duy \u » noU
book which I hi.vo in my jMwHiwHlon.
1 „ow pr.«ln,.« ot '.HI <..nlH , ,1.0 ..lain;,' ..itl.. an.on,., whi.h u,,,n.arH in the cxlrm t '>'-'''''
by Mr' P. ., «.lv....u.;ror .ho IM. ndan., un.l .1... .li.r..r..n.,o ...MM. .-on.... m .ho -'•'' ' ' " ^ •
afl .h,.t .......0 in .n .1 X...U.., Is.hihi. N- « "fhe lM..n.lun., . .-••u. .ho unn.nnls -;«;'-
Huid o..n,ol wo,v ,.:u.. ... .ho ,crH..nH. und ut .ho .iu.os M.oroin n.ont...ne,l. Un- I-n-- • ' '.^d
M70thoolo..,.i.,n, un,l in « I i:..M. ; .ho nnm. ... ,..,.! roprosonl .ho .n.o vuluo ... .he u.lulo.
Korvifon nu'iLionod in .lio Hiii.l iitiiiiint.
TI,o H.nn ..f .m.r .InllarH, of whi.^h AllVo.l r.uv,.^o, n witncn hour.l in .hin «'"^;. j:|;«; IJ
.non.iono.! ,n .ho .ni.i acoount undor tho da.o o.' l..th J.nnury, .S7,; , .-..rd.nand ^^ - ^
Hun. in his ..anus I paid th,.s« .bnrd„llars ... Kord.nand Lavou> or U. Ahrod Lavo.o.
I hoar.1 tho evi.ionco of Jean Hap.i..o BoLluc. an.l 1 pai.l him one .loliar ""'^ '-;;;f;;'";;;:J;;:;;;
jonrnoy U. Poron ; that ..m i. en-en-l in n.y Hui.l u....ount. -■- -"; ^^ ' ^, , ^^^ j ^ ,,,„
::;,::■;;;! 'r: ;:..ra;;ri;:r .::-!; \S;;r :i; r :;« that 4. .. ...
f,.r a jonrnoy ... iVmn on the imi,, .o o.nvoy Mr. IV-ilotior, .ho a ...rnoy tor ho ^^ '""^ " ' '^
uro ,iat 1 L not pay him more, ior I U.oU a n..te o," it inun.lia.oiy .n '"y i;" i;;^- ;^, ^^'.'^ ^^
thai i. .ho .Tico whi.d. I gave that evening- t.. .ho ear.oi-« who wore ,.a.d lor that j..uinoy , Uu n^
.• n' 0.0 W0..0 a «,oat nun>hor o.' n.oe,in«s, an.l it wa. ospeoially Im- tho purposes o those
nlunKs hol.l in .ho intercut of tho election of the Defendant that tho carters were cn.plo.e.i.
, „,i„U .Im. in Haio St. Paul, thoro wore ahout forty nu.otin^s hel.l <lurin« tho oloc.i..n .that
::;:;u,:::i:.w.iv:rr;::: :.,i..h ...u.™.. r,„ .„. .h',,.,,,.,,,,. ,■, ,~ ,
were |)roscnt.
During tho cl.o.ion there woro n.any meetings held by each ..tn.lidate ; ut liaio St. Paul there
weron.'^nlg held for the [)efondant tluu. .or Mr. Tromhluy ; many spoaUors came down
Zm ("."he. .."Ln-K in the interest ... ono or the other andidate; theelocto.al c,.nto,.t wascarr.od
on very actively on h.)th sides.
In rolatM.n to item 3, telcKraphinK ono i.undro.l and thirty-nine dollnrs and eij^'hty cents I
fyiod :.m! Urr:,nrnin,..:mce 'twl, acct.un.s, that ..f St. Iren^o and ..at of MaU.aio ; they were tho
5200 only tw.) accounlM that hud been fyle.l with me.
As t.. the balance of the telof;raphinR account, apart from .hat of Bale .S.. Paul, I ""b' kne^;
,be an . .n h is to say that ^f itoulements; but 1 knew that the u.tal was ...rrect by tho
i^ail" which the oporat.,; ha.l previously given to me ; I now produce the account for te.e,M-aph.n«
at Kh.)ulemenlH, Defendant's Kxhibil No. 7-
The operator at Rbenlemonte had told me that ho had sent mo hi. account ; in any case the
operator had conununioated to mean the details after theoloetioa; those dotads correspond w.th
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190
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amount mentioned in Dofcndanl'B Kxliibit Nv, 7, loss hixty-nino conto, which 1 did not pay to tho
oporiitor, ijocausc ncitlicr honor! had change to nettle that amount; as to tho toiogi-aphing at
Baio St. I'aul, I paid for it liiiy l>y day, and I l<eil an account of it in my noto-lwok.
1 now produce an extract from my notes as to tlio telegraphing at Uaio St. Paul, Defendant's
Kxhibit No. 8, and that amount was paid U) tlie oi>oraU)r, as montionod in tlio said H.Kliibit; thai,
extract is not exactly a faithful exir.aet from my note hook, as my hook contains pretty nearly tho
names ot tho persons lo whom those telegrams woiesent, or from whom th.iy wore received ; but as
to the amounts and the dates that extract is in accordance with my nou) hook.
In the county we only had business with the telegraph oHicers at .Malbaie, St. frenco, Hboulo-
ments, and Ikie St. Paul; all these expenses for telegraphing wore incurred and paid in good faith
for tho purposes and requirements of the election of tho Defendant; and those a.icounts were not,
])aid until after I had examined ihem, and had convinced myself that they were correct ; as to item 4>
hire of houses (^sixteen dollars and thirty-eight cents), I ho account was not produced nor fyled with
6220 me; those expenses were paid, as shown in Defemlani's Kxhihii No. 'J, which is an extract fron»
my note-hook; I noted those expenses in my said book ; tiioy wore incurred and paid in good faith,
tor the pur])oses and roiiuirements of the election of tho Delendant.
As to item 6, with tho exception of Madamo J{,verin, who. I think, gave mo an account or u
receipt, no written account was fuiiiished to mo, but all tho details were given to me. and 1 did not
l,ay until I had satisfied myself that the claims were legitimate and legal for tho jnirposos and
requirements of the election.
1 now produce Miulamo Kiverin's a<-count. Defendant's Kxhibit Xo. 10 ; I examined that ac-
count before laying; if that account was not handed to the rCurning-otlicer, it was by inadvor-
lencc, tor, being ill,' I had desired tho attorney lor the Dofondant to prepare the aec.nints to be
5230 sent and fyled with tho roturning-otUcer ; and if that account was not sent to tho returning-om.'or,
it was not with tho object of keeping it from the knowledge of anj person whatever ; and tho
amount of that account, twelve d.. liars anu ninely-throe cents, is included in item No. of tho
extract ; I cannot swear whether that ace nint wrs delivered to me, but f know that I examined it
on the 24th Ja.nniry, the day that I paid it, and 1 took a note of it in my book ; I paid Arseno
Simard, mentioned in item No. () of the extract, the sum of sixteen dollars and some cents, perhaps i
he gave me no written account, but I examined that account befjro paying it; it was to pay for the
hoard of Dr. Samson and his two brothers for three .la\s, f.r two meals tor SU: Jacob l-aPage, fo''
journeys during three days to conviiy Dr. Samson (u- his brothers, for election purposes, and for tho
keeping of Dr. Samson's two horses during three days ; I cau-ed that account to bo explained to mc,
fi-.MOand having satisfied myself that it was correct, I paid it: Dr. Samson, his two bro-hors, and .lacol.
Lal'agc, are of tiuohec, non-electors in Charlevoix, and hal como lo wo'-k, an i di 1 work, for the
election of tho Defendant.
Ismacl Lavoic's account, mentioned in tho said item H, is for five dollars; no written account
was fyled with mc : I ]iai.l it on the 2.tlh .January, for board of Mr. Lmgevin and his carter, and for
a journey, and I think for convening a meeting; it was for tho purposes and requirements of tho
election.
The account of Lapicrro, mentioned in tho said item 6, is for twenty-six dollars ; 1 pai 1 thiii
account on the 2r)th January; I know all the details of that account; I could even chock it, for
those expenses had boon iiicuVrcd with my knowledge; tho account was for the board of tho lion,
B250T. Kobitaillo and Mr. [ssidore Dolleau, of Levis, Mr. Ijangovin liimself (after the elecrtion), Mr.
Ilouleau, advocate, 11. C. Pellot.ier ; it was an account for board of gentlemen from (iucbec and
elsewhere, non-eloctora iu the county, and who had como to work, and did work, tor tho Defendant.
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Theacconnt of Alfred Fillion, mentioned in the f>aifi item 6, is for six dollars ; that exponso
was incurred at St. Jonchim, where the said Alfred Fillion resides, and outside the county, and
after iho olection; it was on ncooutit of board.
The ,roiint of Theop'.jlt Simard, mentioned in the said item 0, is for throe hundred and five
dollars and a half; Tlieophilo Simard keeps a boardinir house at Baio St. Paul, but does not soil
liquor ; I arrived there on the 31st December, and w(^ wont away from thence on the 'i.'ith January ;
he did not produc" t,. mo a dctaileil account in wriliiiK, but [ examined all the details of Ins claim
62(50 before paying ii ; fun hor, I was able myself to check those details, for 1 resided there during tho
whole elertion. an.l tlio expenditure took place before my eyes, and by my orders; 1 did not pay
Simard's acrouLt until 1 liad convince.! m.,selfthat it was correct, legitimate, and tor the purposes
of the election of the Defendant; 1 had to be absent at .iiffercnt times ; about 3 or 4 days in all.
SSima-d's house was, during the whole election campai-.i, the j-lme of meeting of Mr. Langovin's
party, and of the central committee, whore all the tactics were ox,,lainc(l; by tactics I mean that
people came there to bring n.e all the election news of the county; it was there that most of the
Defendant's speakers, and their carters and horses, came and stayed; nearly every evening there
was H public meeting there, at which speeches were made; all day long the friends who were work-
ing for us, and others, came to bring mo news and to got orders, or U. near news of the election ; to
5'.:70 sum up. that bouse was frequented day and night ,iuring the election ; five apartn.enls of die house
were .o„cc,ipicd during the election; I p'-id Simard an amount of three hundred dollars at Quebec
,1„. five. loll.'.rs an.l fifty cents having been paid to him before, as appeared by my nole-bo.>k ;
Simard is an illiterate man, ami has no derk or educated domestic in his service.
Tbe^c are ibc details; after the election, Simard asked me four hundred and ttfty dollars for his
hill ■ I an>we.cd him, it is possible tliat is not U)0 much, or something of the kind, but lot us see ; 1
then sat down at a table, and wo made pretty nearly the following calculations, as shown in Delend-
anfs Exhibit X.>. 11, now produced, but I cannot sWear that I read all tho..e details to h.niard; but
that work was done to assure myself whether Si mard's demand (8450.00) was too high ; when I
paid Simard on the 27th .January, I perfectly remembered all lb-it bad passed, and I could check
6280 the details of the account, and 1 did not pay it until I had .satisfied myself that that account or that
claim was legitimate, and for the purpo.ses and requirements of tho election of the Defendant.
Messrs. Rouleau, PoUotior, Lepage, Dery, Caron, Rnbitaille, Vallee, McKay. Chabot, Joseph
liouleau, A. Cote, Kmond, are ab from Quebec, non-electors of Charlevoix, and had come into the
county for tho election of tho Delbndant ; 1 cannot say if Mr. Emond is not an elector ol Charlevoix.
I considered tho sum of three hundred and five dollars and a half was moderate, in consequence
of the trouble caused to Simanl,and the expenditure which he had made.
I„ that account there i« no board for people of the county; to my knowledge, there were o.dy
three or four people of tho county who look a few meals with the Dofemlanfs speakers, ana we
invariablv notiliod them that they would have to pay for their meals, and they did pay for them;
BoooSimardloldmeso; I did not pay for them; Simard did not ask mo to pay for them ; I had given
orders t.. Simard U. incur no expense, and to give no meals, no drink, to the oloctors, and 1 know
Ihat no su.d, expense wa.s incurred; that claim of Simard's was for purposes necessary to llio
requirements of the election ; those expenses were legitimate and m g.wd laitb.
1 consider that two doll-irs a dav for board was not too high, for Simard generally gave u^
four meals a day; after the mretings'in tho evening the speakers had a meal, and aere was light
nearly all tho night; there was coining and going all tho time.
As to item 7, forty-four dollars, no written account wu. produced forme; that expenditure,
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wa8 incurred Cor tnivulling expenses and proletihionul Hcrviceb a.s follown :- Pamphilc Vull6c, odilor
of tlio Courner du Canada, twenty dollarH; Isidoro Holloau, advoouto, of Levin, oiyht dollars for
6300 t rave 11 inf? exi)eiiHe8; Jai'ob liepago, arc.liitect, of (^ueljec, four dollars for travelling expenses ; A-
Cote, of (itiebec, trader, twelve doiliirs for travelliiif,' expenses; 1 swear positively that all iho
expenditure which was incurred during the said election, and which I paid, as appours by the
accounts producoti and hy my present evidence, was in good faith, and I did not pay it until after I
had satisfied myself that it was legitimate and legal.
There is at Haio St. I'aiil a carter of the name of Thoophilo Simard, an.l it is he who is
mentioned in the accounl,l)eteniiant's Kxhibit No.').
The Defendant and I always usc.l the utmost ])rudonco, and we ordereil our friends to be very
pmilent, ibr we were ceruiin of the result of the election, and wo desired t,o do nothing to compro-
mise it.
5310 I iyied with the rolurning-otlicer all the accounts which 1 had, and I was disposed to fyle my
note-book with him, and 1 did not fyle it because that book contained certain things toreign to the
election, conti<lenlial and personal, and I did not wish to detach any leaf from that note-book, and
as to llie accounts which were fyled with the relurning-olUcer, they are correct, and 1 examined
tliem before passing them.
The extract. Petitioner's Kxhibit A., is in iici^ordanco with the accounts produced and with my
note-book ; those accounts and my nofe-boi.k were used to prepare thatextract, ami in paying the
accounts 1 acted as the authorized agent of the Dofeiulant.
CllOSS-KX.AMINKD.
The avenige number of speakers from (iuehcc who came for the Defendant, and who boarded
5320^tTheophileSinlardV, was, I think, between three and four lor the whole time of the elc-tion ; Idid
not forbid Theophile Simard t'rom taking r)iitsido boarders during the election, but to my knowledge
he did not take any, and besides we occujued nearly all liis roorn.^; I do not know how mucli a day
Simard is in the babitof charging tor board.
1 do not remember having .said, during the nourso of the election, that Mr. Treniblay and bis
parly were condemned by the past.ual of the 22nd September; this is what 1 may have said :
'• The speakers who come to speak for Mr. Treniblay have many times declared before me that the
bisho])shad nothing to do with politics, as well as the priests; 1 have even hoard some ol them who
appeared to approve of the lion. Mr. Huntington's speech at Argerilouil;" I must lia>-e said that thobo
people sujiported principles that were condemned.
6330 IJuestion. — Is it not true that, betbrc and after the election in question, you wrote in the Cana-
dien, ot which you are proprietor, articles in which you desired it to be undorsiood that Mr. Trem—
blay and bis party weie (ondemncd by the church ?
Objected to by the Defendant : 1st, As foreign to the issue ; 2nd, Jk-cause the name of the
witness is not in the particulars as having exorcised undue intluonce.
Objection maintained.
The Petitioners take exception to that judgment.
1 think 1 saw Rev. Mr. Sirois three or four times during the election; wc spoke of election
matters; I understood that ho Bymjiathi.sed with the candidature of Mr. Langevin, but in those
interviews 1 did not perceive that that sympathy was very groat.
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5340 (i.iostion.-I« it to your knowleJgo that Mr. Siroi. took a von livoly interest in tho Dofcn
dant'H 8UCC0HH ?
AnHWcr.~l know nothing ol«o, except that Mr. Cure Siroinwa. in synipatl'}- with Mr. Lanyevin.
(^.osti„n._ls it n..l .rue that it wu. the Kcncrnl report at Huio St. Paul during the oleclion,
tliat Mr. Sirois svaM stronj^'ly opimseil to Mr. 'rrcmbluy ?
Annwer.-l think it wan the yoneral rcpoi't that Mr. Cur.^ Siroin wa. in nyn.pathy with the
candidature of Mr. Lanyevin.
Quostion.-I« it not true that it was the Konefal report in Haie St. Paul during the election,
that Mr. Sirois vvar< strongly opposed to Mr. Tretnl)lay ?
1 1 . i> • >jt iioi.l viMiH that Mr Cure Sorois waH not in
\nMWfir— [ think that the L'onoral rep )H at Haiu ht. I aul wan inai .mi. v^uii
fi350.y..XvwiU. M"'''.-ombh.y,\ut ican'not .ay it' the report was that tho cure wa« .tron.ly
oppo.scd to M.r. Trombhiy.
Quo«tion._Did you take cogni.anee of what passe.l at Haie St. Paul during the election?
Answer. — Yes.
Question -Is it not true that before coming into tho nmnty, the Defendant. Mr Ondsimc
uJSTZ y-ln^lll; came to an understanding to use the inAuenee of the clergy .n the eloC.on .
OhiectedtobythoDelcndant: He.ause neither tho witness nor ^^ '';^!^'''''' '^ ;;':';:;;^ ^
,hepaSrsof'havingcxeroisodundne clerical intluenco; 2nd, Because tins quesUon tends to
prove a general system ot undue clerical influence.
Objection reserved for hearing on the merits.
6360 Answer. -There was never any such understanding.
Quostion.-ls it not true that, in your conversations with the Oofendant, the assistance which
he might obtain from the influence of tho clergy was discussed 7
Same object ion — reserved.
Answer.—! do not remember that that was discussed.
Question.-Was the part to l,o taken by tho clergy in the election discussed between you and
the Defendant ?
Objection, and reserved.
Answer.-We must have spoken of some priests during t..e election, but I do no, know whether
we talked of the part to be taken by tho clergy during that election.
election.
This deposition being read, the witne.B persisteth therein, .leelaring that it con-ains the truth.
and hath signed.
Taken and sworn
before mo, in open Court, at .Malba
13th September, 1876.
A. B. RouTUiEK, J. S. C.
baie, this V
ISRA15L TARTE.
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Proflnce ot
DLslrict ot SaKueoaj
No. 14.
(jnebec, ) SUPERIOR COURT.
O. BRASSARD, et.al., PetitioiuM^
vs.
Hon. H. L. Lanoevin, Dofondant.
The PetitionorB admit that JoRopl. Duchesne, Justice of Iho Poaco, 50 year, of ago ; t,urnuel
Boivin, School InHpcctor, 41 years of age; Thomas Cotd, Trader, 31 years of age; Andr6 noucha,^
Baker, Louis Gauthier. T. P., r,8 years of age ; P. N. Bois, Collector of «7''-' -"^ ,,f ™
Simard Miller, all of IJaie St. Paul, will prove the same thing as Vmcoslas rromhluy, Lph.e.u
6380 8imard, Jos. Bouchard, Xavier Tromblay, Luc Simard, and Augusto Bimard.
Malbaio, 9th September, 1816.
F. Lanqblibr,
Attorney for Petitumcrs.
li. C. Pem.ktikr,
Attorney for Defendant.
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District
oVLt::::;.! superior court.
DOMINION CONTUOVKIiTKI) KLIXJTIONS ACT, 1874.
Election of a Member for the House of CommnM, for the Kledoral Dhtrict of Charlevoix, Malhan,
Vith SeiitemhiT, t87«.
PrnMnt— The Hon. A. B. IloUTHiEB, J. S. C.
iniASSAliD et al., Petitioners,
»'.S'.
Hon. H. L. Lanoevin, Uefendaut
EVIDENCE OE THE PETITIONERS IX HEHUTTATj.
Romiinld (iuj;ii6, of Miilbaio, farnuT, lioiiii,' duly sworn upon tlic Holy KvungeliistK. dopoBOth
and Baitli : —
I know ttio pai-tioH in thin rauso ; I urn iicitlior a nlatic.n, nor a eonnoction, nor a hcrvant, nor
aUomo-stic of any of them ; 1 have no intorcst wlialovor in tlio rusult of lliis huit.
I know Soriiphin Lajoio and h'm wifo ; I livo in the same coiicossion as they do. and at a short
distance; 1 know woll liio charactor which thoy bear in the locality.
From that charai'tor, I Hhould certainly believe them under oath ; ho is a horso-doalor ; he iH
looked upon us pretty often eheatinj,' people who trade horses with him.
Apart from that, I know nolliin;,' af,'ainHt him; I know nothing uj,'aii. si Iho ebaraeler of his
6390 wife ; I should certainly bellovo hor under oath.
I have known thorn both since [ liave lived in the Concoa.sion dcs Calumets, that is to say, for
about ton yoaro.
Thoy have always lived, since that time, the fourth neighbor from my house.
This doposilion being read to the wilne.ss, he porsistelh therein, declaring that it contains th«
truth, and that ho cannot sign.
Taken and Sworn
before mo, in open Court, at Malbaio, this ■
J2th September, 187u.
A. B. lioUTlllER, J. S. C
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Provlnn. of Qiuh.,-. ) Q T f p p R [ Q R CO U RT.
DOMINION (^ONTUOVHllTKl) KI.KCTIONS At!T, 1874.
Eli'rCun of a MnnUr hr the Ihu^r of ''ommon.i, f-<r thr Hlirtonit Pmtrirt of Cluirlnm.r, M.ithaif,
13M tiqitemher, IH7<I.
PreBent— The Hon. A, B. IIouthier, J. S. 0,
No. 14.
lUlASSAIlD, ft nl., PotiiioniTB.
The lion. II. L Lanoevi.x, Defemliint.
/•. VIDESCE OF Tin: ri:riTinSi:iiS is ItF.IUrrTAL.
Hornphiii Luj(.io, u witnosH ulroivly hoiml, of tl.o piirWi of Malliuio, buinj? duly hWorn on ilie
Holy I'^viin^jolistH, llopo^<otll uiid siiiih : -
I know till' pivrlie!^ in this cniiso ; 1 am nuitlior a iTlntion, nor a ponncotion, nor u hcrvant, nor
ft <loniOMti<' of any ol'tliem ; I imvo no intcl•e^t wliiitovor in tho ithuIi ot this Huil.
6400 NVlio" Soiupliin Villonoiivc .amo to lake mo to .Mr. l'^riaiill'>, as 1 liavo alroady said in my
flpHt evldonce, lie was half intoxi( alc.l, an i wlirn ho l.'lt llio villa-o ho was so driinlj lliat I wont
to (rUo caro of him, for foar tliat somo acoi.ionl n\i.i,'hl i.ipjK'n him.
It was in tho aflernoon that 1 wont, thus to Mr. rorniiill's; I do not romonil.or to liavc soon
Mr. rorriiult anywhoro that dny but at his otHco.
CU0S8EXA.VIINE0.
WW in (|iiostion with .Soi:i|iliiii N'iilonouve.
I driinU many tiinos oi
Soraiihin Villonon vn was only iin instant at .Mr. I'orraiiil's ; ho wont in ihoro to :,'ot me to sign
tho v.-inisition to Mr. Kano ; ho only wont in . M eamo out; and I sweiir roadily, hooauso it in
onllv iho truth, that Soraphin Villonouvo was not pro.sont when I signed the ro.iuisition to Air.
HA.oKnno; ami [ remained there about ton or twelve miniitos; I went away from Mr. PerraullV two
or three minutes uftor havini,' si^med, and to speak oorrootly, I si(,'ned almost on enleriti-,'; there
woroonlyafewwordsahoutiiat thotini., to make the promise, that if F signed the retiuisition, I
choiild hoar no nv. o about my law-suit.
ViUoneuve, '>n entering Mr. I'orraull's, said to tho latter thai ho iiaJ brought an cleelor to sign
tho requisition to Mr. Kano.
(iuostion.— Is it not trn- that formerly y u were tho driver of a caleoho, and that you ceased
driving a oaloohe about four years ag(/ ?
Auswor. — Ye.s.
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Question.— Is it not tnio ihat you ceased to drive a caleche because you wore accused of having
8420 tried to rob a traveller?
Answer.— No; I did not coaso driving a calcchc till two y.^-irs after the affair of which you
speak, because it no longer [mid.
During the last election, I gave myself out as a parti/.an of the Defendant, because I did not
want to be put ..ut into the street, and because Mr. Porrault promised me that if I igned tor Jlr.
Kane, 1 should hear no more said about my law-suit ; it was against my convictions, but 1 made
that sacrifice not to be put out into the street.
Thi.s deposition being read to the witness, ho per,isteth therein, doclaiing that it contains the
truth, and that he cannot sign.
Taken and Sworn
before me. in open Court, at Malbaie, this
llith Sejitcmber, 187t;.
A. B. RouTniER, J. S. C.
Province of Quebec, | SUPERIOR COURT.
)istrlct of Sttgucnay. ) <J KU X J-_x».xv.^xv -^^..^w
DOMINION CONTROVKKTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
EUction of a Member for (he House of Commons, for the Electoral District of (%jrleuoi.c, Malbait,
■ VMh September, 187(1.
Present— The Hon. A. B. Routhieb, J. S. C.
No. 14.
BRASSAliD el al., rctitioners.
v«.
Hon. H. L. Langevin, Defendant
EVIDENCE OF THE PETITIONERS IN REBUTTAL.
Joseph McLean, aged fifty-four years, blacksmith, of the parish of Malbaie, being duly sworn
B130upon the Holy Evangelists, doposeth and saith :—
I know the parties in this cause ; 1 am neither a relation, nor a connection, nor a servant, nor
a domestic of any of them ; I have no interest whatever in the result of this suit.
I know Seraphin Lajoie well ; know bis wife also ; I know nothing against their characters.
From what I know of their characters, 1 should believe them under oath.
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CROSS-EXAMINED.
Ho is looked upon aa a man who cheats people in trading horses ; ho trades not only on hia own
account, but also trades horses for other people ; I have often heard evil spoken of Seraphin Lajoie ;
everybody is spoken against.
Question.— Is it not true that you have heard it said that Seraphin Lajoie was a thief?
6440 Answer. — No.
1 have never hoard it said that he had robbed anybody.
Question.— Is it not true that you have hoard it :^aid that Seraphin Lajf.ie had taken fal>e oaths?
Answer. — Yes.
Question.- Is it not true that the character of Seraphin Lajoie is not as good as that of a good
citizen ?
Answer.— If the church-warden in olTico exchanged horses like him, his character would be
like his; I often deal in horses myself, and when I am not too well provided I endeavor to provide
myself better; and when I change horses I do not tell all I know about my horse, in order to pro-
vide myself better.
.^. I know little of Malvina Dionno, wife of Seraphin I;ajoie ; 1 have only .seen her a couple of
times ; 1 have heard it said of her that she was a good wnman.
This deposition being read to the witness, he persisteth therein, declaring that it contain!*
the truth, and hath signed. ^^^^.^^ McLKAN.
Taken and sworn
before me, in open Court, at llalbaie, this
13th September, 1876.
A. B. ROUTHIER, J. S. C.
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Iirivvs::^! superior court.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
Eleclion of a Member 'or the House of Commons, f-r the. Kle.cloral DUlrict ui Charlecoix, Mulhait,
I3th Scpirmher, 187(>.
Present— The Hon. A. B. Routhier, J. S C.
No. 14.
BRASSARD, et.al., Petitionois,
vs.
Hon. H. L. LANaEViN, Defendant.
EVIDENVE OF THE Ph:TITIONERS IX nERUTTAL.
Elzear Daiiai.s, proprietor, of iIh' p:i:i>li ol' IJaie S;. Paul, being ciulj «worn on tiie Holy
Evai\geli>tH, deposcth and saitli : —
I know the parties in tliin cau.-e ; 1 am iioiilio;- a relaiioii. nor a ciimicclioii, nor a hcrvanl, nor
a domestic of any of tlicni ; I liavo no inlere>t wlialcvcr in tiie ro>ult of tliis suit.
I know Theopliilo Siinaul, liotcl iii'i-jn'r at liaie St. l*.-oil. well.
[ understand very well the value of ))ioperty at H.iie St. Paul; a house su' li as lie occupies is
M^gQ worth thirty or fo7'ty dollars of rent a year; I have already taken several meals at his hou.-e, and I
paid a quarter lor a meal; and 1 "onsidor that a quarter is more than the value of a bed iu ihat
house ; 1 consider that a dollar a day is niore than lie is accustomed to charge travellers.
I think that lialf a dollar a day is the value of the keo[) of a horse at li.iie .Si. I'.ml.
CROSS-EXAMINED.
Simard'rt house and lot may be worth about two hundred pounds, that liou-e may bo about
fifty-live cr fifty feet long; there is a gallery iu front, and two entrance doors; there are six or
neven rooms in the first story ; I have never been into the upper sl^ry. an 1 I do not know the
number of rooms it contains.
I was present when Mr. Tarte gave his evidence, .and I consider that board is worth more ia
6470 eleclion times ; to my knowledge a great number of ])ers<)ns, many peo]>le and carriages tVoin
Quebec, went to Simard's during the election ; Sitnard does not jiass for a man that soils liquor.
Tliis deposition being rca-i to the witnc-s, ho persistcth therein, d.ilaring that it contains the
truth, and liatii signed.
KLZ. DANAIS.
Taken and sworn
before mo, in open Court, at Malbaie, this
13th September, 187(i.
A. B. RouruiEB, J. S. C.
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Province of Quobcf, j O TJ p^ R I Q R CO U RT.
DOMINION CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
FAcriion of a Member for the House of Conwu,>is for 1h- Eln-W.tl Distrirt of Clutri.voix: MaUm,t,
Wh Sfiileniher, 1MT<>.
Present— The Hon. A. B. Routuip:r, J. S 0.
No. 14.
BRASSARD, el al.. Petitioners.
vs.
Hon. H. L Lanoevin, Defendant.
6480
h VIDENCE OF THE PETITIONERS IN REBUTTAL.
/.oplilrin SavnnJ, ago.l ;!8 years, liinnor, ot Iho parish of St. llihirion, being duly -worn u|.on
the Holy Kvangelista, doposetli and sailii : —
I know the parties in this causo ; I am neither a relation, nor a eoiuiection, nor u servant, nor
a domestic of any of thorn ; I have no interest whatever in tiie result of this suit.
I know Soraphin Lajoie and his wile; 1 have never heard anythin- said a-aiust their
charactorii.
From what I hava heard said of them, I should not have any objection to beliovo them under
oath.
CROSS-EXAMINED.
I am a little of a horse-dealer.
Quostion.-lt is not true that Sera, ',in Lajoie i. considered as eheating people ?
An8wer.-lle is not so considered at a.Hilarion, but t know nothing ab.nit it here.
1 often «ec him come to St. lUlarion with people from Malbaie, who tru,, to him to change
their horMOS,
Question.-ls it not true that Seraphin Lajoie is looked upon as a man who ,ioes not trouble
himself much about speaking the truth ?
B«0 Ar»wer.-1 know nothing about that, when he had any business with n.e ho told me the truth.
Question.-Is it not true that there are people at St. Ililarion who complain of having been
cheated by Seraphin Lajoie?
Answer. — I know nothing about it.
I have never heard any harm .aid about the character of Seraphin Lajoie ; I only know the
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wife of Scrnphin Lajc.ic by si«l.., and I have «lopt their several times ; I do "•;^J'";-;^';,;;;;Xa
of that woman ; hI.c lool;s like a dcont woman, an.l I have novor hoard any harm «a.d of l>er, when
1 como to Malliaio, I ^o somotiiucH to sloop at his iioUHo by accidoiit.
ThiH .loposition WU.A road to tho witnoss. he persistoth therein, declaring that it containH the
truth, and iiath signed.
ZKIMIIKIN SAVAHD.
Taken and Sworn "i
botore mo, in open Court, at Malhaio, this V
13 September, 1876. )
A. IV KoIITIIIKK, .1. S. C.
ProvinreofQnebor, | SUPERIOR COURT.
District of Su^uenay. 5 "^
D.)MINION CONTROVKllTED ELECTIONS ACT, 1874.
Present— The Hon. A. B. Routhier, J. S. C.
No. 14.
BRASSAiiD pi! a/.,^Potitioners,
vs.
Hon. H. L. Lanoevi.v, Defendant
EVIDENCE OF THE PETITIONERS IN ItRBUTTAL.
..,, Kusobo Martoi. aged 41 years, farmer, of the parish of St. Agnus, being duly svs,..-n upon the
Holy KA-angelists, deposelh and saith:—
I know the parties in this cau.so ; I an, neither a relation, nor a connecaion nor a servant, nor
. domestic of any of them ; i have no interest whatever in the result of th.s su,t.
I know Seraphin Lajoio. of Malbaio, and his wifo. well ; I know the cha.aotor which they
bear, well ; for my part, I have nothing t.^ say against them.
From what I know of them, I should believe them under oath.
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rnosg-EXAUiNRn.
I KomotimoH Htop ui Surnphin Liijoio's in puswinn by to light my pipe ; I know little of the wife
ofSoruphin Fjiijoic ; iSoru|ihln Lttjdiu olttMi oxchniiLtcn hiii-HOH, and cliealH poopln; thut Ih likowiso th«
ouHtoin (ifuU who trwlo horsoM ; Suniphin Lajoio haw not uti good u iliunn'tt-r rw u good citizen who
iSlOdooa not uxcliiingo horxoM.
I live ono longuo from Scniphin Lajoie; tho IV.lor fiirniH a little ; hin principal occupation
ronHiMtri in changing horMos.
<^uo«tion.— Hay whcilior tho character of Soraphin Lajoio Ih good or bad ?
AnNwor.—Kor my part I can nay nothing; [ hiivo not dono any business with him; once 1
chaTiged a horwo with him ; ho diii not docoivo mo, but I gave him a horso that had disoartod log*;
it was a di8oa^<e that was very vittiblo ; that mare was not worth much.
Thindi)po«ilion being read to tho witnoHH, ho perrtirttelh therein, delaring that it coutainn the
truth, and that ho cannot uign.
Taken and sworn ")
before me, in open Court, at Malbaio, thiH V
IHth iSeptombor, IHIti. )
A. B. RouTUHB, J. S. C.
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i;lz7.;ui::^.i superior court.
DOMliNlON CONTUOVKRTKI) KLKOTIONS A(;i", 1874.
Klvi'Uim of a Mniil'ir 'or the IhiUKi- of Common.*, for tlu: Khi-lonit Dislrifl ./ ''fuirlfroif, .\talhai$,
VMh S^iitnithcr, 1x71;.
rresent— The Hon. A. 11. KouruiKR, J. S C.
BIUSSARD, el.al., retitjoiiors,
vs.
Hon. H. L. T-ANOKVIN, Defendant.
rouxTRii i:vinKXi E or the i)i:Fi-:.yi)Axr to ti/,: hivrorxcE or riir
rrrrnoxrus jx uehI'Tta!..
SlP"' '<•'! Pcrmult, K^ij., udvocttte, of the imrinh of Miilhuic.boiiig ■i\i\y nworn ii|)»ii tho llnly
6B20 Kvai ^;iilio!H, 1 unoiiolli and Hftith : —
I know tho fnrtiotf in this caiir-c ; I iiin noilhiM" 11 rchitioii, imr a coniioction, nor 11 Norvimt, nor
»dimc ioofnii ot tiiom; I ha\o no inlcroHt wJiiUovcr in tho icsult of this Muit.
\9! .'! .^^',;.i|)liin Vilioncuvo camo to my I10U80 with Soniphin I/ijoio, 1 do ni * enow whotiier he
had huu nonie ghiKses of liquor, but he had his ordinary good sonso.
Tho Politioijr^ have no nuestionh to put.
This deposition being road to tho witness, lie pornistctli tiiorein, doclarintj tluit it cmtains the
truth, and huth sigi.eJ.
J. .s. i>i;URAULT.
Taken and sworn
before me, in open (Jourt, at .M.ilbaie, thia ■
13th September, 187ti.
A. C. RouTHiKn, J. S. C.