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The scheme prepared under the auspices of the Minister of Education, for the consolidation of the Universities and Colleges of Ontario, came before the Trustees of Queen's at the last meeting of the Board. The Board gave it their 3arnest consideration, and their views, as expressed in a report dated 13th January last, were duly communicated to the Minister, and the Government of Ontario. While the Trustees gave expression to their own unanimous opinion, they felt that the question was of so momentous a chnractei- that it should not he disposed of hastily, und that it was right and proper that all tlie constituents of Queen's University throughout the Dominion siiould have an opportunity of expressing their views before final action was taken. Accordingly it was deemed wise and prudent to withhold a tinal reply to the Minister of Education until the holding of this present Convocation. We have now consulted or otherwise learned the opinions generally of the graduates and l)enefactors of the University, and if the opinions so expressed be in harmony with the views of the Council and the meeting to-night, the Trustees will be in a position to take final action in the matter. Soon after the scheme was made public, meetings of the friends of this University were held in various places in Kingston and the district around the city. The resolutions adopted at these meetings established that the City and County of Frontonac and the adjoining Counties, were a unit on the confederation question; that not a single person, as far as known, favoureJ the ocheme, and that all held very strongly the opinion that Queen's .siiould always remain at Kingston. The.se resolutions were communicated to the Govern- ment, and the better to convey the results of the meetings and impress upon the Government the feeling of the peoj)le, an influential deputation was appointed to wait upon the Minister of Education and his colleagues. Those proceedings showed the strong views he'.d by the citizens of Kingston and the County of Frontenac on the subject, but it was important to ascertain definitely the views of the friends of Queen's in other parts of the country. To effect this purpose it became my duty, with the sanction of the local committee, to send to them the following circular : "Queen's College and University, "Kingston, 2nd April, 1885. "Sir, — At the last meeting of the Board of Trustees, a special Committee report was adopted, setting forth the views of tlie Board on the question of University Confederation. But as Queen's is supported by, private beneficence, it was felt that all its constituents throughout the Dominion sliould be consulted before final action l)e taken. With that object in Wew, it was decided to obtain an expression of opinion from as many friends and supporters as possible before the meeting of Convocation, to be held on the 29th inst. "You will find appended a copy of the report adopted by the Trustees (dated 13th January, 1885), together with a sheet containing three leading questions, to which your attention is earnestly directed. " The friends and benefactors of Queen's throughout the Dominion are so numerous tliat it will be impossible for me to reach them all by circular letter. I trust, however, that you will have the goodness to wait upon those in your neighbourhood who are interested in the subject, and obtain an expression of their views and transmit the same to me in the anclosed envelope. sheet. " Replies to the (|uestion8, with the names of individuals, may be entered on the end 'sed delay. "I l)eg respectfully to request that you will give this matter your a'tention without " I have the honour to lie, Sir, " Your obaJient servant, "Sandforu Fleming. Chancellor." That circular was sent to representative graduates and supporters of Queen's. They have responded to it very generally. No less than S.i.'i replies tjave been received from friends of the University outside of the City of Kingston and the County of Frontenac, and these replies come from representative men of all classes and all shades of politics. I shall now say a word about the character of these replies, alluding first to that very iin|iortant branch of the question, the financial one. i'lie Trustees pointed out that the lirst step towards confederation could not be taken without money — that something like a (|uarter of a million of dollars would Ije re(juii-ed to move Queen's to Toronto and establish it there, as it is now established in King.ston. We put tijt' whole matter stjuarely before our friend.", and supporters, and asked them if they would be prepared to assist in moving Queen's to Toronto. What is the reply ? I do not refer to the citizens of Kingston, for it is perfectly well known that not a single person in or near Kingston would render the slightest aid, material or otherwi.se, to transfer Queen's. What then will our friends at a distance from Kingston do? Some say in efTect, we will adheie to Queen's under any circumstances, but they add, " we sincerely hope she will remain at Kingston. Individually we are opposed to moving her to Toronto, but if the majority, and if the authorities should decide to make the change, we will continue to render what assistance we can. We would, however, greally prefer contributing to the support of the University at Kirgston." A n ery large percentage of all heard from state very emphatically that they will give nothing whatever, and many of them indicate that if Queen's College enters the Union they will withdraw the assistance they are now giving or have promised to give. There is a small minority in favour of the scheme, but two only of those state that they are prepared to put their hands in their pockets and give what they are able. As these two embrace all the resources we apparently can depend upon, should we accept the scheme, it may be well that 1 should read wliat they say. One pays, " I would be willing to assist to the extent of my ability," the other says, " Yes, what I could ; while thinking that on the whole, it is better for Queen's to unite, I do not think it would Vje better if she had to sacrifice ber buildin;,s and property in Kingston." So much for the ways and means. The Trustees have made a general appeal and they have not received tie promise of any sum whatever to meet the cost; involved by the acceptance of the scheme submitted to them by tha Minister of Education. They have looked to all the constituents of the University, but they have discovered no prospect whatever of raising a sufficient sum. On the contrary, many state that if the scheme be accepted they will cease to contribute any longer, and in consequence the sources of our present income will dry up. It is therefore perfectly clear that if it be ever 60 desirable to transfer the University to Toronto? it is absolutely impossible to do so for wantjof means, and unless the Govern- ment undertakes to find about a quarter of a million of dollars and compensate for the shrinkage of income consequent on the change, Queen's per force must remain where she is now established. Let us now see how the matter would stand if there was no money (juestion. Let us assume that this difficulty was non-existent. In that event would it be wise to accept the invitation to enter the confederation, to give up our University j)owers, and move the whole establishment to Toronto. W^ould it be prudent or expedient to try the experi- ment which has been proposed 1 What do our graduates and benefactors Jiving at a ■distance from Kingston say to this? I have before me a classification of the 3;3.'') replies received, and of these I find that three — and three only — are in favour of the scheme. I have referred to two of the.se replies, one from I'embroke, the other from Uananoque. The third is from Montreal. Unlike the first and second, the writer of the third reply tells us th it he would be unable at present to render any assistance. Ninety-nine per cent, of all heard from, from every (iimrter, and a hundred per cent, of all west of Kingston, are very decidedly opposed to Queen's accepting the scheme. We have replies from every Canadian city east of the Rocky Mountains ; we have replies from nearly every town and village in Untario, but not a single person west of Kingston wliom we have heard from is in favour of Queen's going to Toronto. There is nothing ambiguous about the replies, and if we except the three I have mentioned, the vote may be said to be solid. All give their warmest support to the views expressed by the Trustees in their report of 13th January. To give .some idea I'f the wide, field from which these responses come, and their representative character, I sul)mit a list of the principal places heard fion), excluding, for reasons already given, the ( 'ity of Kingston and the County of Fronten.ic ; 10 replieii cauie from Nova Scotia and New Brunswick. 27 "' Quebec, Montreal and Lachine. 12 " Cornwall and Glengarry. 16 " Brock ville and neighbourhjod. 19 " Ottawa City. 37 V " the Ottawa Valley generally. 38 " other places east of Kingston. 25 " Bell'n'ille, Napanee and Trenton. 29 " Cobourg, Peterborough, Lindsay, et •. 22 " Toronto. 14 " Guelph, Gait, Fergus. 16 " Hamilton and Dundas. 20 " Huron and Bruce Counties. 16 " London and neighbourhood. 16 •* Simcoe and Grey. 34 " other places in Ontario. 6 " Port Arthur and Manitoba. Total, 355 Seldom has there ever been on any question, at any time, so much unanimity of opinion. We learn from these replies and from every other source of information, that not simply in Kingston and the neighbourhood, but throughout Ontario and in every section of the Dominion, the Graduates, the Benefactors, the friends of Queen's, are substantially of one mind as to the action which should now be taken. It re(juires no careful study of the returns which have been received to satisfy any one that; the feeling is practically unanimous, that the invitiition to enter the confederation of Universities and Colleges at Toronto should not be accepted. On the other liand, the strongest po.ssi- ble opinion prevails that Queen's University should for ever remain at Kingston, and that her friends should make every effort to strengthen her and extend her usefulness as one of the first schools of higher education in the Dominion. I have in my address to-night, as re|)resentative of Queen's to the Tricentenary of Edinburgh University, referred to a similar crisis in the history of the Scottish Universities, when an attempt was made to sweep away the four ancient seats of learning and on their ruins Vjuild a single " National ". Univensity. On that occasion !.iuch sympathy was evoked for t!ie existing Universities, and it was proposed that Associations should be instituted to increase their endowments. It was felt that to be strong and useful a University must have a good income. I have mentioned the wonderful increase in the endowment of Edinburgh in the twenty years following the institution of the Association for that definite object. May not this be the proper time to initiate a similar proceeding in Canada ? It seems to me that no period could be more appropriate, and that great good would result to our common country if we resolved to institute an Association for increasing the endowment of "Queen's University at Kingston." SANDFORD FLEMING, Cliancellor Queen's University. ■^ APPENDIX TO THE CHANCELLOR'S REPORT WITH RESPECT TO THE SCHEME FOR CONFEDERATING THE UNIVER- SITIES AND COLLEGES OF ONTARIO, DATED APRIL 28^1, IHHf., BEING REPLIES TO QUESTIONS SUBMITTED TO REPRESENTATIVE GRADUATES AND SUPPORTERS OF QUEEN'S BEYOND THE LIMITS OF THE CITY OF KINGSTON AND THE COUNTY OF FRONTENAC, REPLIES B'rom Nova Scotia and New Brunswick. To Question iW/. /. Are you in favour of l^nfcn's entering the i)roi)osed confed- eration of C'ollegeti, giving up the University powers she en- joys by Royal Charter, and moving to Toronto? To QucHtion No. 2. As a large exienditnre would he required to transfer the 17ni- versity from Kingston, would you he ready to assist in such 'work? Answers to Questions I. II. 1. Fostheringliam, Rev. T. F., St. John : No. Yes, if such a course « ^-^ cleeiiled upon. 2. Forbes, J. G., St. John No. No, not one dollar, as I am against removal. 3. Laing, Rev. Robt., Halifax : I am not. I would not. 4. Macdonald (M.D.), Hugh N., Lake Ainslie : No. Not to the amount of 1 one cent. 5. PoUok, Rev. Dr., Halifax : No. i>o. 6. Sinclair, Rev. A. McL., Spring viUe : No. No. 7. Shore, Rev. Godfrey, St. John : No. No. 8. Sedgwick, Rev. Thos., Tatamagouche, N.S.: I am not. No. 9. Smith, Rev. Thos. G., St. Joiin : No. No. V ' 10. Lawson, E , Halifax Hotel : No. No. . :;,; To Question iVo. •?. Do you generally favour the views of the Board of Trustees as expressed in the report of the Wth January, 188,'), that the I'niversity should remain permanently at Kingston, and that every effort should be made to biiild it np and extend its usefulness ? III. Yes. Yes, with nil my lioart. I do. Certainly, am ready to di) all 1 can. Yes. Yes. Yes. * I do. ; ';;. Yes. Yes. FUOM MONTKEAL AND QUEUEC, KTC. To Qitintion No, I. T» Question No. 2. To Question No. ■?. Are yn\ in favour of fjiifoirM As iv liirgt- exiw^nditiin; would tie Do you K«'n«""ally favotu' tin- fiiU'iing the nropowcil cntift-tl- tTiitioti of ColleKt's, K'viiiR up tlic lIiiivfiMity )M.wer« hIih cn- joyH l)y Royal < "hnrter, and inoviiit,' to Toronto? riMiuiivd to tranHfer the Uni- versity from Kinxston, would you h« ready to assist in such work? Answers to Questions II. 1. Alltui, Andrew, Montreal : No. No. vi(^w" of the Hoard of Triistees ns expressed in the report of the 13th January, IWo, that the University stiould remain jiermanent at Kingston, and that every effort should be made to build io up and extend its usefulness. 11 [. Yes. Yes. 2. Barclay, Rov. James, Montreal : No. No. In answering,' the above questions I am giving the viowa. without exception, of all interested in Queen's with whom I have hail opportunity to speak, and F Iiavo spoken to many, — J.B. ;}. Cook, Rev. Dr. John, Quebec : I am not. C'ertainly not. I do. 4. Cormack, Rev. James, Lachine, Q. : No. No. Yes, 5. Gruiksiiank, Rev. \V. R., Montreal : Such a move is fraught with By no means. great perils to Queen's. 6. Dawes, T. A., Lachine, Q. : Not Vjy any means. I would not sul)sr'.il)e a cent. 7. Doudiet, Rev, Chas. A., Montreal : No. No. 8. Drummond, A. T., Montreal : No. Not at present. 9. Forsyth, R. O. W., Montreal : No. Yes, very doubtful. 10. Hague, Geo., Montreal: No. No. 11. Heine, Rev, G. Colborne, ^Montreal : No. No. ■ 12. Hodgson, Jonathan, Montreal: Yes. I could not at present. 13. Hutchinson, M., Montreal: No. 14. Love, Rev. A. T., Quebec: No. 15. Mitchell, A., Montreal : No. 16. MacPherson, A., Montreal : No. 17. McCaul, Rev. James, Montreal No. No. No. No. No. No. Yes, ami will, as I am altlc, aid lier in her good work. I do. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. No. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I do. ' ' '- 6 18. Oxley, Ifev. M. S., Montreal : No. No. Yes. 19. Rankin, John, Montreal : No. No. Yes. 20. Ritlclell, A. K.. Montreal : No. Were it or the xiu'iit of the . Yes. University I niigl t assist. 21. Robertson, J. S., Lachine, Q,: No. No. Yes. 22. Rodgers (M.D.) T. A., Montreal ; No. No. / Yes. 23. Caniphell, Rev. R., Montreal : Nq. No. Y'es. 24. Jenkins, Rev. Dr. J., Montreal : No. No. Yes. 25. Muir, Rev. J. B., Huntingdon, {).: No. No. Ves. - 2G. McLennan, E , Montreal : No. No. Yes. 27. Friend, Montreal : No. From Cornw No. u Glengarky. Yes. ALL AN To Qiiesliitn No. I. Are you in favour of (Queen's entering the iiropo.xed confed- eration of CollegeH, driving up the University powers .she en- joys by Koyal Ch.arter. and Moving to Toronto? I. T:> Qucntion No. ■.'. As a large e.xpeiiditure would he recjuired to transfer the I'ni- versity from Kingston, would you Ije ready to assist in such work ? Answers to Qin-Min.i 11. 1. Cameron, Rev. Hugh, Suninierston : 1 am not. 2. Copeland, Jno., Cornwall : No. ?>. Colquhoun, ^Vm., Cornwall : Deeidedlv not. 4. Colquhoun, G. C, Cornwall : No. Decidedly nf No. No. No. * To Qucation No. ■■!. Do you generally favotir the views ot the Hoard of Trusteen as expressed in the report of the 13th January, 18S.'), that the University should remain perm.anently iit Kingston, and that every ett'iU't should be made to l)uild it up and extend its usefulness? 111. I do. Y.-. Yes. Yes. After a certain manner 5. Dingwall, Jame Cornwall : INIost decidedly I ai ot. No ; let Queen's remain in the old historical place on its I do. old foundations. The tree is too old to be safely trans- ' ' - planted. (1) Centralization in Toronto means preference for the combination of the Chinese and Frencli systems — the uniformity of death. (2) The Veientionof Queen's in its integrity at Kingston means the triumph of Scotch and Anglo-Saxon rivalry, variety, and rugged strength, and self-reliance— the variety of life. {(i) Canada and Ontario nro too largf for centralizjition of any kind— political or edma tional (higlici) respectively, 6. Grant, A. J., Williamston : I am not, certainly not. By no means, without talc- T am strongly in favour of ing the expense into consider- the LMUver,-sity bein-,' pernia- "■tion. nently in Kingston. 7. McLennan, 1). D,, Williamston : 1 think it would l)e a great injustice to those who suhscrilied liherally to the huilding and maintaining of so useful an institution as Queen's to he removed to Toionto, 8. Maclennan, D. B., Cornwall : No. Xo. Yes. 9. Smith, A.M., James, Cornwall : — No. No. Yes. 10 McLennan, J., (hy the Lake) Lancaster : 1 have cause to think that while union with the Provincial Univensity may give strength to fiome other CVillcges, and may he a de.sirable thing; Queen's, l,ii\ inj; a fair out- fit and l)eing fairly endowed, and having good e!l)Ow room in her locuti.m. may he very properly allowed to continue as .she is. 11. iJurnet, Rev. J. S., Martintown : No., No. Yes. 12. McBean, A. G., Lancaster: No. . No. Yes. From Brockvmxk, ktc To (,. Hion No. 1. Are you in favour of (^uepu't* entering the proponed confedt eratiun of College.s, giving up the University powers whe en- joys by Royal Charter, and moving to Toronto? To Qiieation A'o. 2. A.I a large e.\penditiuv would he required to transfer tiie I'ni- vei'sity from Kingston, would you be ready to assist in such wcprk ? Answers to Qusdions I. II. 1. Bell, J. J., Brockville ; No. No, hecituse I do not think the removal desirable. 2. Christie, Hon. W. J., Brockville : No. No. 3. Edgar, W. H., Brockville: No. No. 4. Hall, James, Brockville : No. No. 5. Hutchison, Jas. A., Brockville: No. No. 6. Mackenzie, Allen, Brockville : ♦ No. No. 7. Mclntyre, \Vm., Brockville : No. No. •8. McDonald, Judge H , Brockville : No, decidedly not. No, I would not. Ti) QneKtinn No. A. Dii you generally favour the views of the Board of Tru.ttees as expressed in the report of the i;-tth January, 1885, that the I'niversity should remain permanently at Kingston, and that every effort should be inade to build it up and erttend its usefidness ? in. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I do. I! IW 9. Matliison, Rolit., Brock ville : No. No. '^'■•'••*' 10. Meikle, J. II., Morrisbingh : J am not. Haviui,' subscribed to the en- I do not favour tin- f- jh me dowment of Queen's upon the of n-iuoval, and i fully con- distinct understanding that cur in the roisons given in it was to be a University for Mr. Fleming's civculur of this Central Ontario, I would not. dale. 11. McMullon, G.o. A., Brockville: No. No. 12. Montgomery, Hugh, Morrisburg : I am not. I would not. l.S Smellie, W. B., Brockville : No. No. U. Webster, Geo. R., Brockville: No. No. l.x Elliot, J. Arthur, Brockville: No ; no ; no. No. 16. Moore (M.D.) V. H., Brockville : No. No. From Ottawa City. To Qxustion jVo. 1. iV.re yoti in favour df (Queen's entering the proposed confed- eration of Colleges, giving up the University powers slie en- joys by Royal Charter, and moving in Toronto '1 To Question ^u. 2. As a large expenditure would be required to transfer the Uni- versity from Kingston, would you be ready to assist in such work ? Answers to Questions I. II. 1. Bell, (M.D., LL.D.), Robert, No. Ottawa : No. ■2. Booth, J. R : No. No. :?. Corbett, (M.D. ), Thomas: No. No. -1. Chrvsler, F. H : No. No. 5. Farries, Rev. F. W. : No. No, 6. Fraser, George L,B. : Decidedly not. No. 7. Gilmour, Allan, senr. : No, most decidedly, no. 1 Not a cent. 8. Hamilton, William : No. m. ■' 9. Hopkirk, H. G. : No. ' ^ -HiTo." " "'' , Yes. I do not I do. No. 1 do. Yes. To Question No. o. Do you generally favour tlu views of the Board of Ti-ustees , as expressed in the report of the 13th January, 1885, that the University should remain l>ermanently at King.stnn, and that every effort should be made to build it up and extend . its usefulness ? III. Yes. Yes. Ye Yes. Yes. Yes." Yes. Yes. r: Y.s. 10. Mark, (M.D.), Robert: No. No. It is in my heart to help Queen's, as I prosper in the future. 11. Moore, Rev, Dr. William : No. Stro.igly opposed to No. such action. 12. McCracken, John J. ; No. No. 13. Macdonald, Right Hon. Sir John A. : No. 14. Stewart, McLeod : No, most decidedly not. 15. McRae, J. W. : Decidedly not, IG. McTavish, D. B. : No. 17. Schultz, Hon. John : No. 18. Wood, John F. : No. No. No. No, No. No. No. Yos, Yes. Yes Yes. Yes. I heartily concur. Yes. Yes. Yes. 19. Piatt, (M.P.), J. M. : , u • i " That system of higher education is best which is placed withni the reach ot tlie many instead of the few. The interests of Toronto and the interests of Ontario are not identical in all respects. Whenever an attempt at centralization threatens the general interests of the people, it is our plain duty to resist it by all constitutional m.-ans withm our reach." From TiiE Ottawa Vai.lky. T(i Qucittion Nres8ed in the rHjiort of the l;tth January, iss.j, that the University should remain perm.anently at Kingston, and that evorv". -effort should be made to build it up ami extend its usefulness. III. I favour the views ot the trustees that it remain in Kingston. Yes. Yes. Most certainly ; to do other- wise would be a breach of faith with the Benefactors of the University, and Educa- tionitlly an irreparable loss to Eastern Ontario. 10 5. Campbell, J. G., Perth : No. 6. Cameron, E., Perth : No. 7. Clark, J. M. U., Smith's Falls : No. )^. Clark, A., Smith's Falls : No. 9. Crombie, Rev. John, Smitii's Falls No. 10. Ferguson, H. M., Oarleton Place : No. 11. Gandier, Rev. J., Fort Coulonge : No. 12. Gillies, John, Caileton Place : No. 13. Gillies, James, Carleton Place : No 14. Johnston, J. R., Carleton Place : I heartily agree with the I w report adopted by the trustees, and in answer to the question would emphatically say no. 1.5. Kellock, (i\l.D.), J. D., Perth: No, most decidedly. Not one cent. 16. Lavell, John R., Smith's Falls : No. No. 17. Lafferty,^M.D.), W. A., Perth : No. No. No. • 1 do. • No. Yes. No. Yes. No. Yes. No. Yea. No. Yes. No. Yes. No. Yes. No. Yea. 5uld not. I decidedly favourthe views adopted. 18. Mallock, E. G., Perth : No. No. 19. MacGillivary, Rev. M., Perth: No. Not at all, according No. But I am ready to to the proposed scheme. assist in making her more efficient where she is. What she is doing shows she de- serves this. 20. Macalister, Rev. J. M., Ashton : « No. No. 21. McDonald, Rev. D., Oarleton Place : No, never. No, not even to the extent of one cent. 22. McEwen, F., Carleton Place : No. No. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. • ' I certainly do. 23. McKenzie, (M.D.,) Edward, Smith's Falls No. No. Yes. Yes, and I hope a suc- cessful effort may* soon be made in that direction. Yes. -'-'■.■'' . Yes, 11 views I sue- on be II. No. I shall always Vip liappy to subscribe as far as my means will permit to "build up Queen's," but never to " destroy " her. 24. McUre<,'or, F.C., Almonte Nvj, a thousand times no ! No, I believe the whole scheme of confederation to V)etheresultof the extrava- gance of Toronto Univer- sity and jealousy of Queen's. I am opposed to Confederation in either religion, politics, or edu- cational affairs. My pride revolts against being swal- lowed up by the big sister in Toronto. Myine, Rev. Solomon, Smith's Falls : No. No. 26. McKillop, Rev. Chas., Adniaston : No. No. Indeed I am not. It would be detrimental to the best interest of the church to which I belong. It would be retrocession from the action of the supporters of Queen's in the past. It would be a long .step in the direction of extreme centralization in educational bureaucracy in svhich I npver believed. It seems to me that Queen's is needed for the public benefit in the education of the east- ern part of this province. 27. Proudfoot, Alex., Fort Ooulonge ; No. No. 28. Preston. (M.D.), 11. F., Carleton Place : No. No. 2it. Ross, Rev. Jam^s, Perth No. No. Yes, anipliatically yes. Yes : I think the Board of Trustees have taken the only rational view of the situation that could be taken under the circum- stances. Yes. P; would be a great injustice to Eastern On- tario to remove Queen's to Toronto. Y'es. I do. I hope that the people of Ontario will not be so unjust as to demand that this grand old institu- tion so deeply looted in the history of our country should be pulled up trom its foun- dations. Yes. Yes. Yes. No ; money can be betti-r spent in further equipping her. Yes, certainly. 30. Rothwell, Wm., Perth While we are prepared to con.sider a just scheme of University confederation we cannot agree to see Queen's transferrefll from Eastern Ontario. H igher education in Eastern Ontario requires ' - - her presence in Kingston. As a body of Alumni of Queen's we have had a meeting and' expressed our oi)inions, whi'li accorded with the answers given above.' V Wm. RoTHWi ll. 12 31. Stewart, Daniel W., Renfrew : No. No. ' Yes. 32. Struthers, P., Carleton Place : No. No. Yes. 33. Yuill, Joseph, Carleton Place : No. No. Yes. 34. Smallfield, A., Renfrew : 1 should regret to see the importance of Queen' University to Eastern (Ontario ignoied, or its claihis to the fullest cc.jideration set aside. 35. Fiaser, Rev. J. F., The Parsonage, Metcalfe : No. No. Yes. "I feel very strongly that the proposed removal of Queen's to Toronto would be wrong in itself, suicidal to Queen's, and on the svhole, detrimental to the interests of education." 36. Irving, A., Pembroke : Yes ; if the other colleges enter the confederation, Queen's would not be able to compete with the new university. 37. MacNab, F. F., An.prior : Would favour confeder- Certainly not ; foi- 1 holil ation, but only on condition that P^astevn Ontario is en- that the University be al- titled to University facili- lowed to remain at King- ties at Kingston, and fur- ston. ther, that centralization of the kind proposed would not be in the interest of higher education. I would be willing to as- sist to the extent of my ability. I would like the con- federation scheme better if Queen's, as a teaching in- stitution, could be letained at Kingston. I do. The report is an admirable one, and at onoe commends itself to the judg- ment. Fko.m the East Generally. To Qucdion No. 1. Are you in favuiir nf Queen's entering the ijropo.sed confed- eration of Colleges, giving' up the University powers she en- joys by Royal Charter, and moving to Toronto ''. 'To Question No. 2, As a large expenditure would be required to transfer the Uni- versity from Kingston, would you be ready to assist in such work ? • ■ Answers to Qiiestionn I. n. 1. Anderson (M.D.), W. J., Winchester Springs : I am not. and will oppose 1 would not. it to the end. 2. Andrews, Rev. Joseph, Middleville : No; I think it decidedly wrong, and am glad to see the spirit* d .stand that the friends .* Queen's have taken. 3, Brvce, W. S., Gananoque : No. No; but would do all in my power to aid Queen's if she remains at Kingston. No. To Question No. J. Do you generally favour the views of the Board of 'J'rustees as expressed in the ri jiort of the l.Sth January, 1885, that the University should remain permane-tly at Kingston, and that every effort should be made to build it up and extend its usefulness? III. I do, and will use any in- .Huence I can in that way. I do. 13 4. Ijpatty, Will., Lansdowne : No. ■' f). Bi adlcy, J. A., Lansdowne ; • No. 6. Bradley, Henry, Lansdowne ; No. No. No. No. 7. Bell, Andrew, Carillon, Q.: 1 am not. No; any little tint J can give will only l)o i,'iv a it' the University lemains in Kingston. 8. Cameron, Colin, Iroquois : No. No. 9. Cohjuhoun, Dr. Geo., Iroquois : No. No. 10. Cornell M.D , Seth Shaw, late Med. Council, Out.: No. No. 11. Chambers, Rev Thos. S., Wolfe Island : No. No. 12. Davies (M.D.), R. A., Easton's Corners: No. Nr. 13 Darling, Thos., Lansdowne: No. No. 14. Forlong, Rev. Wm., Lachute, Q.: No. No. 15. Gallagher, J. T., Newboro': No. No. 16. Gallalier, Rev. John, Pittsferry : Certainly, not ; it would No, no. mean disaster; perhaps death. 17. Glassford, Rev. T. S., Richmond West : No. Never. 18. Gillies, George, Gananoque : No. Ye.'^. Y.s. Y.s. I do 19. Herbison, James, Gananoque No. No. No. 20. Kellock, Rev. David, Spencerville : No. No. 21. Lewi.s, L. S., Newboro': No. No. 22. Lang, Rev. W. A., Lunenburg, Ont.: No, .y:' , No. 23. Matliew, W., Gananoque : No. 24. Alitchell, Geo., Gananoque : No. No. No. 25. McCormack, James, Lansdowne: No. No. Yes, Y.s. Yes. Yes. Yes. Y'Js. Yes. Yes. Tiie views of the Board of Trustees have my hearty concurrence. Yes. Yes. Y^es. Y^es. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. 14 26. McNeil, Walter. Lar^downe No. No. 27. MoCoil, Rev. E. C. W., Middlevillc : Most einpliatically not. As read) as I would \.e to go to sea in a basket. 28. MiuVrt'mr, Rov. (I., Newington : . 1 am not in t'a\ cmr of any No ; but on the contrary, such proposal. Far from it. I would withdraw my pre- sent subscription. 29. Pnstnn (M.D.), K. H., Newboro': No. No. 30. Porti ous, 'Rev. George, Toledo : No. No. 31. Robertso-^, Javnes, Madrid, N. Y. : No. O-mfedera' ion defeats No. It would be a waste the object of education. of time and money. 32. Rodgers, Samuel, Gananoque : No. 33. Rodgers, D. H., Gananoque : No. 34. Taylor, Jos., Lansdowne : No. 35. Tett, B., Bedford Mills: No. 36. Tett, J. P., Bedford Mills: No. 37. Gracey, Rev. H., Gananoque : No. No. No. No. No. If confederation takes place it will be bad for Queen's in any case. If she unites, itwill cost her a. lot of money. If she does not unite it will be hard with her present endowment to compete with such an in- stitution, and keep the re- putation of her degrees on a par with those of the Central University. Look- ing at the difficulties, the less will be found with con- federation, and Queen's should go into it, if any provision is made for tak- ing her buildings at a valu- ation. 38. Cochran, Alex., Lansdowne : No. Yes, what I could. While thinking that on the whole it is better for Queen's to unite, I do not think it woiild be better if she had to sacrifice her buildings and property in Kingston. Yes. I do; the public is more likely to have good bread and full weight if there are several bakeries. My views are ex[ire.-.sed in the report. 1 am pre- pared to renew my .sub- scription, when tb'.) time comes for doing so. Yes. Yes. Yes ; most d^'cidedly. Yes. Y^s. Yes. Yep. Y^es. It would certainly be a great advantage to Kings- ton and Central Canada, to have Queen's remain, and if she does remain while the others unite at Toronto, her friends must come to her aid. I think it will cost more to put Queen's on a financial liasis that will enable her to cope with the new institution than it would cost to carry her to Toronto, and make her the leading college in the confederated institution. U. If). 16. 17. 18. I'J. Yes. 15 Fkom Belleville, etc. To Quentioh No. I, Are you in favour of (.^neen'H entering' the |)ro]>osed confed- eration of Colleges, giving up the University powers whe en- joys V-y Royal Charter, and ir oving to Toronto '! To Question No. 2. As a large exi>enditure would be required to transfer tlio Uni- versity from Kingston, would you be rtady to assist in such work '{ A nsirers to Qiteelions I. . II. 1. Burrows. Fred., .Napanee : No. 2. Brown, A., Belleville: No. No. 3. Bell, John, Belleville : No. No. 4. Coulter, (M.D.), H. M., Sharbot Lake : No. No. I. Carscaclin, T. G., Napanee : No. No. Day, (M.D.), Walter D. P. W. : No. No. Day, (M.D.), L. E., Harwood : No. No. Deans, George, Trenton : No. No. Davis, B. W., Trenton : Most emphatically no. No. Ferguson, W. B., Napanee : No. No. Ferguson, J. F,, Napanee : No. No. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. U. 15. 16. 17. 18. ly. Fraleck, Judge E. B., Belleville : No. Yes, as far as I am able. Gibson, (M.D.), W. I., Belleville : Most emphatically no. No. Huffman, James C, Napanee : No. No. Hueye, Alex., Napanee : No. No. James, Charles, Napanee : No. No. MacClean, Rev. M. W., Belleville : No. _ As far as in my power. Robertson (M.P.), Alex., Belleville : No. No. Thomas, J. Parker, Belleville : No. No. To Question No. J. Do you ncnerally favour the views of the Board of Trustees as expressed in the report of the 13th January, 1885, that the University should remain Iiermanently at Kingston, and that every effort should be made to build it u|) and extend* its usefulness 'I III. Yes. Yee. Yes. Ves. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I do. Yes. - ' Yes. Yes. In every sense of the word, yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. ■ Yes. fl IC •20. Forir;, A., (M.D.), Belleville No. 21. Thiuet, Saimiel : No. No. No. '2'2. Stewart, junior, S.: No. '.'") V.",\i;i, ( .M. Ja). (x'O. C T, N'TpiiiirT ■ N.\ .\i ITo. Yes. Y"» Yc- Yes. Yes. 2'. :i;.e:.e( P. C. Pi.,':oii : In'o No. «."). Ilathbuii, E. W., Doseroiito : '■ I have alw;xy.s been an advocate of the American sy.steni of aiding Colleges, /. r., by private ellbrt. (^lueen's must remain where she is." CoBOUUG, Poi:t Hope, Peterdouo', Lixdsav, etc. To Question No. 1. Art- yen in favour of Queen'.s ('iitHriiig tli^' prop'isefl confed- eration of Colleges, giving up the University powers she en- joys by Royal Charter, and nv'ving to Toronto? I. To Qiuation JVo. 2. As a large e.xpenditure would be required to transfer the Uni- versity from Kingston, would you be ready to assist in such work '' Anan'prs to Questions II. To Question No. 3. Do you generallj' favour the views of the Board of Ti'ustees ns e.Kpressed in the report of the 13th .Tiinuary, 1W5, that the University should remain I)ermanently at Kingston, and that every effort .sliould be made to build it up and extend its usefulness? III. 1. Bell, Rev. Alexander, Peterboro' : No. No. 2. Carmichael, Rev. James, Norwood : I am of opinion that both ' No. for the purpose of conserving the true interest of Queen's and higher education an em- phatic 110 should be given to the foregoing question. o. Cameron, Rev. John J., Pickering : No. No. 4. Craig (M.D.) H. A., Cobourg : No. No. 5. Currie, Rev. Archibald, Sonya : No ; by no means. No. All parties whom I am acquainted with, answer as I have done. 6. Dow, John Ball : No ; emphatically no. No. 7. Dennistoun, Jas. F., Peterboro" : No. Yes. I must say that I heartily endorse the views expressed by the Board of Trustees in the report referred to, and give a hearty Ajnen to the last clause of the question. Yes. 8. Dennistoun, Robt., Peterboro ; No. 9. Dunlop, A. C, Peterboro' : No. 10. Dow, Thomas, Whitby: No. No. No, No. Yes. Yes, in every respect. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. n., l)y 11. Dinu'oodie. R., Orunp' eHford : No. No. 12. Davis, Rol)ert, York ; No. No. 13. Gray (Rev. Dr.) Job^, Orillia Yes. Yes. No; 1 favour at least thiee Uuiversities for Ontario — Queen's for Eastern, Toronto for Central, and London for Western. Yes adopted these views were on grounds inde- peiuleut of the report of the Board of Trustees, and be- fore the tpnor of the report was known. No; sue) centralization I consider ad vantaf{eou8 to the denoinihiitional Colleges in and around Toronto, but pre- judicial to (j>ueen's and to the cause of higher educa- tioji in Ontario. (1) That the mode of instruction adopted at Queen's is better fitted for a new' country like Ontario than that of University College. (2) That if any grant from Provincial funds be made to Toronto University a pro- portionate sum be also given to Queen's. (.3) That the matter must be considered hot in the interests of Toronto simply, but in those of the whole Province. 14. 15. 16 Herriman, W. L. No. Port Hope : Jones, Henry M., Marmora No. Pickering Hamilton, Hon, Robt., Peterboro' No. 17. M-"or, Robt. No. 18. McKay, Angus, Pickering : No. 19. McCrae, Rev. D. L., Cobourg No. Is No. No. No. No ; the more the scheme is discussed the more strongly do the friends of Queen's in this district oppose it. No ; we would give any help we can, if it remains in Kingston. 20. McDonald, (M.D.) A. R., Brighton : No. No. 21. McOoll, E. C, Cobourg : No. No. 22. McLennan, John, Lindsay : No. No. 23. McTavish, Rev. Dr., Lindsay Decidedly and emphati oallv no. 24. Tuttle, L , Tweed : No. 25. Wood, S. F., Madoc: No ; I believe that higher education would not be for- warded by taking Queen's to Toronto. 2 Why should I ? Queen's, as I look upon her now, would be no longer in exist- ence. Certainly not. No. No; toiny mind. Queen's has a work of her own that can only be successfully pro- secuted by retaining its iden- tity as a University. Y'^es. Y^es. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes ; every friend of Queen's in this locality feels that such is for the best in- terest of University educa- tion in Ontario. Yes. Yes. Yes. I do ; the removal of Queen's from Kingston would be a backward step in the history of higher education in Canada. Yes. ' Yes. 18 26. Williamson, W., Port Hopo ■ i The (jucstion of removal depend H on its practica- bility. If practicable, it would be in the interest of a higher educational stand- lud. I am of opinion that in case of transfer the expense ought to be borne by the Ontario Government. 27. Cleland, James, Port Hope :' The same reply as No. 26. 2S. Linton, A. R, Orono : No. No. 29. Wishart, Rev. D., Madoc : No. No. From Toronto. To QueHion No. 1. Are you in favour of Queen's entering the proposed confed- eration of Colleges, giving up the University powers she en- joys by Royal Charter, and • moving to Toronto ? I. 1. .Clark, J. A., Toronto : I think that Queen's Col- lege should remain in King- ston and not. enter into con- federation, giving up the powers she has at present, and as she has done and is now doing excellent pro- gress in Ontario, she should be allowed to go on as she has hitherto done. To Qucaiion No. ii. As a large expenditure would be required to transfer the Uni- versity from Kingston, would you be ready to assist in such work ? Answers to Questions II. We think it imprudent to incur any expenditure to transfer the University to this city ; liesides, the coun- try is not in a very pros perous way at present. 2. Cleland, Rev. Wm., Toronto : ,• Very decidedly not, I would not. 3. Dickson, Geo. P.: ' No. No. 4. Geikie (M.D.), Walter B.: Should there be a con- federation of Colleges and Queen's decline enteiing, nhe would require a large in- crease of endowment to en- able her to maintain a Hrst- class position. If she should be unable to do this, her influence would be limited, and the best class of stu- dents would study in To- ronto. Yes. Yes. To Qiu.it ion No. S. Do you generally favour the views of the J3(ia)d of Trustees as expressed in the rejjort of th(f Kith .January, 1M85, that the Ihiivfisity should remain IM-rmaiU'iitly at Kinis'ston, and that every eti'ort should be made to build it up .and extend its usefulness. III. We think the views of the Board of Trustees, in their report Jan. l.'kh, '85, are correct, and that the University shoidd remain permanently in Kingston, and should be encouraged and built up there. We, as natives of Scotland, always heard that tlie Universities in Edinburgh, Glasgow and Aberdeen had done a great deal of good for the rich and poor in our country, and Ci'uccn'i, wiU no doubt do ikewi.se. I do. Yes. N.B effect as 1 a great 19 I lliiiik it would 1)0 the Certainly not ; I would height of unwisdom to do like to see guccn's live and prosper, not die and be lost sight of. so 5. Oilmour, Isaac : No. No. 6. Hay (M.P.), Robert, Toronto: No. Not by any means 7. Hendt-rson, W.: No. No. 8. Jardine, Alex., Toronto : No. No. 9. Kay, John : • No. No. 10. Maclennan, James : No. No. 11. Macdonald, Geo.: No. No. • 12. Macltnnan, P. J. : No. No. 13. McGee, David: No. No. 14. Mitchell, Wm.: No. No. 15. Micbie, Geo.: ' No. No. 16. Milligan, Rev. G. M.: No. No. 17. O'Reilly, Jag. R., Toronto : Decidedly not. No. 18. Perry, Charles : ' No. No. 19. Rolls, James : No. No. 20. Strachan, James : No. No. 21. Macdonnell, Rev. D. J.: ^ No. No. ' . • 22. Tanner, Rev. Charles, Bendale : s No. No. N.B. — Rev. Mr. Tanner forwarded a long list of answers effect as his own, but they came too late for publication. My views very heartily aci;ord with those of the Board, and 1 further think that l)y extending atllliation to teaching bodies of high staniling, such as Trinity Medical School, Toronto, Queen's College inlhuince might 'je widely extc'iided. Yes. Yes. Yes. Ve«. Yes, Yes. Yes ; to which end will be glad to do all in my power. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes ; I think tfie country will be better served by several independent institu- tions distributed over tho country than by one institu- tion centrally heated. Yes. ^ ' ■"• ; ,,: Yes. ■:-;;:-:-" Yes. from Scarboro' to the same l| ( i 20 From Oitelph, Oalt, ktc. Ti> Qiiention No, 1. Arp you in favoiir of (^ucfm'n tuitcrint? th« ])i'()|MiHt'. .i. Do yoii j^eneraily favdur tlio vieWH of tile lioard of 'I'mnteen n* exprcMMed in the reixirt of tile i:Uli .lannarv, IMHo, tliat tile I'liiverMity H(,ould reinaiii iireMianeiitly at KinK» anil e\teiid itH UM'fiilneHM ? III. Y»m. Yes, I do. Yes. Yes. F^xvour the viev/s o/ the Board. Yes. Yes. Yes I do, very decidedly. Yes, Yes. 21 11. Torriino»>, Rev. l)r. Koliort, Ouolph : No, HhoHluuild not, in my No, most docldecUy ; nor opinion, hold her powors in do 1 think ftny puhlic fund aheyanie, «iv«'n fur alimitt'd sliould he applied to this time. purpone. 12. Wardropo, Rov. l>r. Thomas, (tiu'lph : Yea. I consider it t'saential to the exiHtence of Queen's that slic should remain at Kingston. In the event of removal to Toronto I should • " "'l the charter as prac- 1. . alueless. \d. V. ilson, James, Gait : No. 14. Williams, Samuel, Fergus: No. No. No. No. Yes. Yes. Yes. Fkom Hamilton, Dundas, etc. To Qvegtion No, t. Are you ill favour of (Queen's entering; the i)ro|iose(l confed- eration of Colli'Kfs, giving up the UniverHity iiowers wlie en- joy k by Roy ill Charter, unci moving to Toronto ? To Que lit ion No. '2. An a large expenditure would be re(|uired to trannfer the Uni- versity from Kingston, would you be ready to awhiHt in such w> rk ? Answers to Questions I. II. 1. Bruce, John A., Hamilton : No. No. 2. Bertram, (M.D.), S. A., Dundas : No. No. 3. Bissone te, J. D., Dundas : No, I am not. No, never. 4. Connell, J. C, Dundas : No. No. 5. Fitzgerald, L. S., Dundas : No. Possibly not. 6. Glasgow, John, Hamilton : No. No. • 7. Lcjgat, M,, Hamilton : No. ' No. 8. McCulloch, A. Thorold: No. No. 9. Malloch, Dr. A. E., Hamilton : No. No. To Question No, a. Do you generally favour the views of the Board of Trustees as expressed in tlie report of the 13th January, IHH,''), that the University siiould remain l>ermanently .it Kinp ton, and that every effort should be made to build it up and extend its usefulness. III. Yes. Yes. ^ Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. The country would never have heard of the scheme if the University of Toronto had not been in need of funds. M U : t 22 10. Miller, Thomas, Hamilton : No. According to answer to first (juestion I must reply to this in the negative. 1 1 . Simpson, James, Hamilton : No. No. 12. Smith, J. Findley, Dundas : No. . No. 13. Stewart, James, Hamilton : No. No. 14. Walker, James, Hamilton : No. No. 15. Walker, (M.D.), A. H., Dundas : No. No. IG. Laidlaw, Rev. R. J., Hamilton : No. No. Yes. Yes. Yes. Certainly. Yes. Yes. Yes. From Huron and Bruce. To Question Nu. 1. Are you in favour of (Queen's entering the proposed confed- eration of Colleges, giving up the University powers she en- joys by Royal Charter, and moving to Toronto ? To Question No. 'J. As a large expenditure would be required to transfer the Uni- versity from Kingston, would you be ready to assist in such work ? Ansimrs to Questions r. II. 1. Bain, D. James, Paisley: No. No. 2. Bethune (M.D.) Ale.xander, Wingbam : No. No. 3. Cameron (M.P.), M. C, Goderich : No. No. 4. Clapp, (B.A.), David, Harristovvn : No, I am not. • I think not. 5. Campbell, Rev. John, Harriston : No. I would, should Queen's agree to enter tho " p'edera- tion," but I am unfavourable to her entering it. 6. Douglas (M.D.), Robert, Port Elgin : No. No. 7. Ferguson, Rev Jno., Chesley : No. Possibly I would, if the trajisference were decided by * - the friends of Queen's to be ' in her interest and in that of higher education. 8. Hay, Wm., Paisley: No. I could not, To Question No. 3. Do you generally fovour the views of the Board of Trustees as expressed in the rei)ort of the 13th January, 1885, that the University should remain permanently at Kingston, and that every effort should be made to build it up and extend its usefulness ? III. Decidedly yes. Yes. Yes. I am. I do. Yes. Yes. Yes. 28 9. Moore, Rev. John, Allenford : No. 10. Malloch, G. W., Paisley • No. 11. Niven, Rev. D. R, Dromore : No emphatically. 12. McDonald, Rev. Alex., Duntroon ■ No. No. No. No. No. 13 McFhie, G. S., Elgin, South Crosby : Queen's remain as .she is. By no means ; like giving up your Ijirthright. 14. Mordy, Rev. John, Mildmav • No. 15. Strachan, D. C, Goderich : No. 16. Steele, J., Paisley ; Nod ! 17. Ure, Rev. Dr. Robert, Goderich: Not in fu . !r of Queen's • entering proposed federation on terms proposed. 18. Williamson, A. M., Kincardine • No. 19. Young, Rev. S., Clifford: No. 20. Young (M.D.) W. James : No. No, No. No!! No. No. No. No. From Stratford, London, etc. To Question No. 1. Are you in favour ' Queen's entering the proposed confed- eration fjf Colleges, giving up the UuiverHity powers she en- joys by Royal Charter, and moving to Toronto? To Question No. S. As a large exiienditure Would be required to transfer the Uni- versity from Kingston, would you be ready to assist in such work? Yes. Yes. Yes. I do. Yes, in toto. Yes. • Yes. Yes. I do. Yes. Yes. Yes. 1. Barton, D., Stratford : No. 2. Barton, James, Stratford No. 3. Briden, Wm,, Iiigersoll : No. A nswers to Questions II. No. No. ^ -■■■■' No. To Question No. 3. Do you generally favour the views of the Board of Trustees as e.x;pressed in the report of the 13th January, 1885, that the University should remain permanently at Kingston, and that every effort should be made to build it up and extend Its usefulness. III. Yes'. Yes. Yes. 24 I) s. 4. Crerar, James, Shakespeare : No. No. 5. Hamilton, John, Port Rowan : No. No. 6. Jarvis, Chas. E., London : No. No. 7. M'cEwen, Rev. J., London : , No. No. 8. Ocborne, Jas. K., Brantfoid : No. No. 9. Prou'.ifoot, Eev. Dr. John J. A., London : Queen's might enter the No ; it would be sad proposed confederation with- waste of money. In fact it out "moving to Toronto." could not be done at pre- University degrees need not sent, be given up, but merely held in abeyance temporarily. 10. Scholz, John J., Stratford : No. U. Ireland, Geo. E., Chathahi : No. No. No. 12. Wightnian, John, Ohathani Centre: No. No. 13. Robertson, Wm., Chatham Centre : No. No. 14. Tallach, Rev. T., Chatham Centre: No. No. Yes. I do. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes ; it would be wrong to remove the College from Kingston in view of what Kingston has done for it ; besides, a College is needed in Central Canada. Queen's has a splendid place of use- fulness. Absolute centrali- zation is in itself not desira- ble. It 'ms been forced on the M, inst r of Education, and i i •■ :1 now lead to a reaction. Considering the slender connection which exists between at least the Arts department in Queen's and the Pre.«i by terian Church really some arrangement might be made by which Queen's might receive Gov- ernment support. Of course we could not ask Govern- ment to maintain the Theo- logical department That must be sustained by the Church, and it could be without much extra eti'ort. Ye.^. Yes. Yes. Yes, Y^es. it. 15. McDowell, Jas. A., Sarnia : Alumni and benefactors would probably discontinue support to Queen's if removed. 25 SiMCOE AND Grey. To Question No, 1. Are yon in favour of (Queen's entering the proposed confed- eration of Colleges, giving up the I^niversity powers she en- joys by Royal Charter, and moving to Toronto? I. To Question No. 2. As a large expenditure would be required to transfer the Uni- versity from Kingston, would you be ready to assist in such work ? Answers to Questions II. 1. Bethune, (M.D.), Henry F., Clanbrassil : Decidedly not. I would not. 2. Crozier, John, Orangeville : Jfo. No, not a cent. :5. Campbell, G. A., Orangeville : No. No, not a cent. 4. Campbell, Neil, Nottawa : No. No. .^. Chisholra, Rev. John, Mclutyre : I am bitterly opposed to At present 1 am giving it. !$20 per annum, but if it is moved to Toronto I would give nothing. 6. Cornell, (M.D.), A. P., Gravenhurst : No. ' Not one cent. 7. Dawson, Rev. A., Gravenhurst No. No. 8. Fraser, Rev. Dr. Wra., Barrie : It may be a grand idea No : except if it were im- perative, being liiy ?hare of several public burdens. to unite all the Universities into one great University of Ontario, but the utility of such confederation is open to grave question ; centrali- zation is not always an un- mixed good. 9. McKay, Rev. W. E., Orangeville : Certainly not. No, not a cent. 10. Reed, Hugh E., Orangeville : 11. Stewart, F. C, Orangeville : 12. McKee, Wm., Oookstown : No. Same as above. Same as above. i^To. To Question No. J. Do you generally favour th» views of the Board of Trustees as expressed in the report of the 13th January, 1885, that the University should remain liennanently at Kingston, and that every effort should be made to build it up and exiend its usefulness. III. I do. Yes. I do. Yes. I am in hearty sympathy with their views, and shall increase my contributions and etibrts in other respects to build up and extend ita usefulness. Keep Queen's at Kings- ton at all hazards. Yes, with all my heart. I have nothing to say in opposition to the argu- ments of the Trustees, though it may easily be fore- seen that if confederation is accomplished, leaving out Queen's, it may work much to her disadvantage. I do. Instead of pulling it down it should be built up and rendered more ef- ficient. Y.-s. l! i i i 20 13. Patterson, Rew G. 0., Beaverton : No. 14. Irwin, Francis, Orangeville : No. 15. Scott, Rev. A. H., Owen Sound The more I think about the proposed change the le.s.s favourably do 1 regard it. Let her stay wliere she is, and improve. I would not. No. No. 16. Moodie, Eev. Robt., Stayner No ; it would be sad to extinguish the light of learn- ing in Central Ontario. Let the open doors of the Col- lege m Kingston be an at- traction to the young men of the district. Yes. Yes. Yes; then let her remain. Were it not for Queen's in Eastern Ontario, as far as I can judge, I would never have been a student in a University. For the good work she is doing to all who come to her halls, and especi- ally for joungmen in East- ern Ontario, touch not her standing. Yes. Ontario, Generally. To Question N't). 1. Are you in favour of (Queen's entering the proposed confed- eration of College.s, giving up the University powers she en- joys by Royal Charter, and moving to Toronto? To Questvm i\U f. As a large expenditure would be required to transfer the Uni- versity from Kingston, would you be ready to assist in such work ? I. 1. Abbott, R. H., Comber: No. Answers to Questions II. No. •2. Avlesworth, (M.l).), A. K., Newl)urgh : So. No. 3. Beeman, M. J., (M.B.), Univ. Toronto : Although in favour of No. University Federation, would be well satisfied to see Queen's remain outside. 4. Burton, Rev. Geo., St. Catharines : Decidedly not. No. 5. Cameron, Rev. Hugh, Watford : No ; it would be a great Not one cent, mistake to do so. Queen's has a work to do she can only accomplish in Kings- ton. To Question Jfo. .1 Do you gfjiorally favour tht* views of tiie Bo*rd of Trustees a.s expressed in the report of tlie 13th January, 1885, that the University should remain permanently at Kingston, and that every effort should be made to build it up and extend its usefulness? III. Yes' Yes. Have not read report. Yes. Yes. 27 6. Cumberland, (M.D.), T., Camlache : No. I would not. 7. Carniichael, Rev. James, Strange : No : : think such a step No ; would mucli rather would l,e disastrous to the assist to keep her where future prospects of Queen's. she is. 8. Craig, Rev. Rol,t. John, Deseronto : ^^o. No. • ' 9. Clinton, George, Deseronto : ^o. ^ No. 10. Cumberland, Rev. J., Stella : No, tlu' east is the home No, because to do so would of the wise men. be asbreach of faith, and an act of injustice to Eastern Ontario. 11. Duff, J. Al., Parkhill No. No 12. Dingman, W. E., Listowel, Perth : ^0. No. 13. Dimnia, James, Bel ford : No. No. U. Duff, (M.D.), Ramsay H., Newburgh : Decidedly no. No. 15. Dickson, (M.D.) Charles R., Wolf Island : Most emphatically no. Neither ready nor willino. 16. Forrester, Edgar, Algoncjuin, Grenville : No. I would not. 17. Eraser, (M.D.), R. M., Westmeath, Renfrew : Never. No.. 18. Emery, (M.D.), S. A. J., No. I think Queen's should remain where she is, she has heid her own and can do so through all time. Croswell, Mich. : I would never give a single dollar towards mov- ing Q ien's to Toronto. But if she remains in King- ston T shall support her as far as I am able. 19. Hume, .John P., Dunnville Am not in favour of Queen's giving up her uni- versity powers, and am de- cidedly opposed to Queen's moving to Toronto. 20. KKwes, George, Brucefield No. 21. Mullan, E., Kilsyth, Grey : Decidedly not. Would with treble the pleasure assist in keeping her where she is. No. Decidedly not. r cef tainly am. Yes. I can say amen to this with all my hear'. . Ye.«. Yes. Yes, and I hope that the final answer of tlie friends of Queen's to tjie question of federation, will be a quarter of a million added to endowment fund. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I generally favour the views and especially favour the last clause. Yes. Yes. I certainly do, and believe that every graduate of (i)ueen'8 should try and l>uild up the place of their education. Stand tirm by their Alma INIater. Am heartily in favour of the views of the Board of Trustees. _. -. ^ Yes. Decidedly I do. • h rv 28 22. Macauley, Rev. Evan, Creiff P. O., Wellington : I am not in favour of Queen's University enter- ing into any proposed con- federation of colleges, or giving up the power she enjoys by Royal Charter, and move to Toronto or any other place. 23. I would not assist in moving the University from Kingston, or help in defray- ing any expenses incurred by any such action. I favour the views of the Board of Trustees as ex- pressed in their Report of 13th January, that Queen's University remain perman- ently at Kingston, and etibrts made to build it up and extend its usefulness more and more. Miller, L. F. Woodhill : No. No. Yes. 24. McPhaedyen, Hugh, Cresswell : P>y no means. By neither exertion uor Certainly. sympathy. Removal would be a gross injustice to Kingston, and to the claims of other parts of the Province which are ec|ual to those of Toronto. Universities should be independent for every reason. I hope that confederation in the sense of removal to one centre shall never be brought about. 25. Newton, (M.D.), John, Deseronto : No. No. 26. Prie. (M.D.), R. B., Bath : No. No. Yes I would not. Yes. I do. 27. Neill, Robert, Burnbrae I am not. 28. Rouse, Mark R. : No. Never. Yes. Why don't they propose to take tini High Schools to Toronto ; or let all the Ontario population move there bodily. It is all right for Government to try to raise the standard of general education, hut Queens College is not an offspring of Canadian Government's begetting, and it has standards of thought, of culture and modes of culture that are designed to educate the people and government as well. This being so, Queen's College can't stoop to l)e drilled, developed, shaped by the Government, though that Government should see it to be its duty and privilege to give it all the requisite pecuniary aid. It is impossible for Queen's to give up all its traditions and go into a false position in Toronto ^-nothing but ignorance can excuse people making so base h proposal. 29. Smith, Rev. Wm. I am not. S., Centre ville : No. 30. TuUoch, James, West Huntingdon, Hastings : I am not. No. 31. Thompson, Rev. Dr. Robt., Niagara Falls ; Empbatically, I say no ; neither necessary norexpedi- ent, and in my judgment an extinction of University. Queen's 32. Ross, Walter, Picton : No. 33. Scott, John, Hensall : No. 34. Wallen, Win., Eltield : No. I would exert every effort to preserve Queen's Uni- versity, but my efforts might not avail much. No. No. No. Yes. I do. Yes ; I have read the Trustees' Report very care- fully, and, as a member of a Scottish University (Edin- burgh), I am confident its views are accurate, wise and statesmanlike. Yes. Yes. Yes. 29 From foiiT Arthur and Manitoha. r.- Question No. I. To Qii>ation No. J. To QufKtion No. i. " , Ar ■ you in favour of (Queen's As a large exi)eny the University. Council in reference to the organization of Queen's University Endowment Association, April 2l)tli, 1880. No. 5. — do do do do No. 6. — do do do do No. 7. — do do do do No. 8. — do do do do No. 9. — Final resolution passed l)y the IJoard of Trustees in reference to Univerisity Confederation, April 30th, 1885. No. 10. — Resolution of the Board of Trustees in reference to the institution of Queen's University Endowment Association, April 30tli, 1885. No. 1. RESOLUTIONS PASSED AT THE SPECIAL MEETING OF ALL INTERESTED IN QUEEN'S UNIVERSITY, IN THE CONVOCATION HALL, APRIL 28th, 1885. Moved by Rev. James Barclay, M.A., of Montreal, seconded by Mr. George Gillies, B.A., of Gananoque, and resolved: , That this meeting is of the unanimous opinion that the authorities of Queen's should now determine that the University shall forever remain at Kingston. No. 2. Moved by Rev. G. M. Milligan, B.A., of Toronto, seconded by Judge Macdonald, of Bro kville, and resolved : That the thanks of this meeting be tendered to the Chancellor for his admirable address, and for the great trouble he has taken to ascertain the views of graduates and friends of the College on the subject of University Confederation ; and that the University Council be requested to consider the advisability of forming an association, whose duty it shall be in every possible way to further the interests and increase the efficiency of this University. . No. 3. RESOLUTION PASSED BY THE UNIVERSITY COUNCIL IN REFERENCE TO UNIVERSITY CONFEDERATION, APRIL 29th, 1885. Moved by Dr. Gibson, of Belleville, seconded by Rev. R. J. Laidlaw, of Hamilton, and resolved : The Council have heard the report of the Chancellor with regard to the views of the graduates and benefactors of the University on the subject of University Conffleration, resolves in accordance therewith. (1) That it would be neither in the interest of Queen's nor in the interest oi-' higher education in Canada that Queen's should abdicate her University powers or remove from Kingston. Biv 33 (2) That the report of the truutues, adopted 1 3th .January, 1885, expressos generally the views of the Council. (3) That in the opinion of the Council it is the duty of the Oovernnient in any appro- priation for University work to recognize the largo uhart; of such work done by Cjueen'a as a University at Kingston. (4) That the Chancellor's report be adopted, and that a copy of the report, together with these resolutions, be sent to the trustees for their information regarding the attitude of the University Council on tlu^ matter of the proposed Confederation. No. 4. IN REFERENOE TO THE ORGANIZATION OF "QUEEN'S UNIVERSITY ENDOWMENT ASSOCIATION." Moved by Rev. Dr. Smith, of St. John, N. B,, seconded by Mr. A. T. Drummond, L.L.B., of Montreal, and resolved : That the suggestion of the (Chancellor with regard to the formation of an association for increa.sing th<( endowment and promoting the elHciency of the University be adopted. No. 5. Moved by Mr. G. M. Macdonnell, Q.C., of Kingston, seconded by Rev. R. J. Laidlaw, of Hamilton, and resolved : That the association to l)e organized be called the Queen's University Endowment Association. No. G. Moved by Rev. G. M. Milligan, of Toronto, seconded by Rev. E. D. McLaren, of Brampton, and resolved : That Mr. Sandford Fleming, C.M.G., LL.D., be President of the Association. No. 7. Moved by Rev. R. J. Laidlaw, of Hamilton, Seconded by Mr. A. T. Drummond, L.L.B., of Montreal, and resolved : That the objects of the association shall i e to increase tiie efficiency of the University by adding to the Endowment, providing for the establishment of new scholarships, lecture- ships and chairs, and in every possible way enlisting and securing public sympathy and support. No. 8. I of the (ration, [higher |e from Moved by Rev. Dr. Smith, of St. John N. B., seconded by Judge Macdonald, of Biookville, and resolved : That Mr. R. V. Rogers," Mr. John Carruthers and Mr. G. M. Macdonnell, Q.O., Kingston; Mr. A. T. Drummond, L.L.B, and Rev. James Barclay, Montreal; Rev. J. C. Smith, B. D. Guelph ; Dr. Gibson and Mr. John Bell, Q.C., Belleville ; Dr. Malloch and Mr. M. Leggatt, Hamilton ; Mr. George Gillifls, Gananoque ; Dr. Grant, Ottawa ; Mr. D. B. Maclennan, Q.O., Cornwall ; Mr. James Maclennan, Q.O., and Rev. G. M. Milligan, Toronto; Rev. Dr. Campbell, Renfrew; Rev. M. McGillivray, Perth; with the mover and seconder, and with power to add to their number, be a Committee to organize the Association and carry out its objects. 3 iH 34 No. 9. FINAL RESOLUTIONS PASSED BY THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, APRIL aO'iu, IHHf), IN REKEUKNCE TO TllK SCMKME OF UNIVEKSITY CON- PEDKRATION SUBMITTED BY THK MINISTKR OF EDUCATION OK ONTARIO. ^ ,..,., Moved hy Rev. Dr. Warilro|)o, of Ouolpli, st^cojided hy Rev. D. J. MacdonntiU, of Toronto, and reHolv«^d : That tho final reply of tho Board of Trustees he transmitted to tho Ilonoraltle the Minister of Kducation, regarding the scheme of University Confederation suhmitted hy him, as follows ; — At the last meeting of the Board a report was adopted expressing the views of the Trustees as a body on the memorandum of the Minister of Education emhracing a scheme for the confederation of the Universities and Oolleges of the Province of Ontario. For reasons then expressed the Trustees felt it incumbent upon them to delay taking final action until the present Convocation. Tho report of the Board, dated 13th January, was duly communicated to the Minister of Education for the information of himself and the Govern nusnt. On January 23rd a deputation consisting of the Chancellor, the Vice-Chancel lor, Rev. D. J. McDonnell, B. D., Rev. G. M. Milligan, B.A., Rev. R. J. Laidlow, and Junuss Maclennan, Q.C., hy appointment waited on the Ministc^r of Education and th(( Attorm^y- General at the ofiice of the latter in Toronto, and at that interview explained further the views of the Board of Trustees. On 9th February a public meeting was held in the City Hall, Kingston, at which resolutions were passed giving expression on the subject of Queen's entering the con- federation. Other meetings were held at Harros.'smith, Perth, Seymour, Deseronto, and other places in the adjoining counties, at which similar action was taken. The County Council of Frontenac pass((d a resolution of the same tenor. At the metiting in Kingston a deputation, consisting of the Mayor and leading citizens of Kingston and Oananoque, was appointed to submit and explain their views and the resu ts of the meeting to the Minister of Education and his colleagues. Steps have since been taken to ascertain the views of all the constituents of Queen's University. Yesterday the Chancellor submitted a report to the Council, and the day previous to a special meeting luUl in Convocation Hull of till interested in the Uni- versity. This report, which sets forth the opinions of representative men from fdl parts of the country on the University Consolidation scheme, together with the resolutions passed by the special meeting and by the Council, establisl\ that the constituency of Queen's is practically a ujiit in favor of declining to enter the proposed confederation, and of Queen's remaining permanently at Kingston as li University. Accordingly, the Board of Trustees most respectfully decline to enter into the proposed confederation of Universities and Colleges at Toronto, and they retjuest the Chancellor to transmit this their re ly, and at the same time to transmit his report and the resolutions referred to herein for the information of the Minister of Education and his colleagues. No. 10. IN REFERENCE TO THE FORMATION OF " QUEEN'S UNIVERSITY ENDOWMENT ASSOCIATION." Moved by Mr, W. C. Caldwell, M.P.P., of Lanark, seconded by Mr. D. B. Maclennan, Q.C., of Cornwall, and resolved : That the Trustees are greatly encouraged in their efforts to promote the advance- ment and progress of Queen's College by the action of the University Council in forming a Queen's University Endowment Association, and while cordially approving of the action taken by the Council commend the object to the support and sympathy of the friends of the University. Uie