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V""^ ""{ I'lnance. in order to hou.&nd wouirSe'peseS^^ Then my issue, a concrete motion whiccLldl^l^r'"^ ^/^^^ ^ ^»^'e debated, affirmed or denied or «mi i 17 ^'*^*'" d'scussed and pose : whereas he now offers f.s not ^''' ^VT P'^^^i^^^^ pur- acadetnic, abstract and rS ",h",o„ ^SfT"' "'f ""' ''"^ ^" which can be affirmed ordenied n 'o l',''^" '**^ 'lebated, which, by the rules of this House ?,. T^ ''*' amended, atul whole or rejected whole Mvhnn "*'/''•'''' 1° ^'^ swallowed very able and eloc^uent spSh has flt"'^" !V '^" "'^"''^^ "^ his confidence as to the re LtToTs wl S ^ '*" ?""'^ '"^" ^'^ and me upon this sub ectH^f.^'^r ^'"',^^^^ '''^t^*^^" him truly informed the Hoise tl^t t '"^«'""^^^1 "le House, and motion whichIofferecrto\he HoL'^'7,rVP''"«^V ^J'^'" ^he or the 1st of August list of «,., A ' ^ -'""^ "" ^he 31st July adopted, and i;?":L Taid" tl?a "ff't" ,:I;l^!i" ^''^'-^l-s, Va^ House at that time he «;nnl,M. , "^^" present n the informed the Hmrsrai:o ^ TtS?K'^^ the motion. He has peatedly warned me that f we wS-1 .' ,!^f "^ ^'''^^?."' ^^ '^- pend.ture he would oppose tTiat sten of the Po"^' '"'^''^'■>' ^^- hon. friend will permit me to sav th^f t 1 ^'O/ernment. Mv Ins convictions, that althTugri 'differ from ;;?/'""^%''E'*P"^^^^ much respect, and I may sav wit hoi 1 -l^ -''^ws I have too for him, not to allow Sm the f 11 Hh '^^'^f.'""- admiration Hear, hear.) My lion frieml ul ^"^l^ '^'^'^^ ^^ claimed, that he wan ed to^ move'a" 1 Ct^rthr^>'"" .°"- Gove^nnent in order to affirm Ws co„v"ction. P"^^'"^ °^ '^^ A More Fitting Occasion. upon the „3o„i«„„ „^°.t <SrKScJXcfut=1? " 4 -^ hon. friend had offered his motion upon the address, or upon the motion of the Minister of Finance, that motion then might have been subjected to amendment. I do not find fault with the principles involved in the motion of mv hon. friend. I am not prepared, however, to accept the whole lanKua^e of it, neither am I prepared to accept the opportunity of it, and if my hon. friend had moved his motion, as I su>;gested to him, as An amenrlinent to the address, or as an amendment to the resolution providing for the South African exix;nditure, it would have been possible for me to offer an anuMulment to his amendment, em- bodying this principle invoked by him, but embodying it in my own lan>,niage or in language which would have been more suit- ed to the House, language less harsh, if mv hon. friend will pernnt me to say so, in language which I believe would have rallied around the amendment the unanimous opinion of this Hou.se. (Cheers.) My hon. friend, in the exercise of his own judgment, and in the exercise of his right, chose, on the con- trary, to select his own language and to import into the House his resolution in the manner in which he has. The hon. gentle- men mu.st not be surprised that, although I agree with him in many things, I nni.st tell him at once that I cannot adopt his motion. If I have come to this conclusion it is not because I find fault with the principles enunciated in this amend- ment, but I challenge altogether the opportunity or the raison d'etre of this motion. It is not sufficient that the principles involved in a motion submitted to the House should be incon- trovertible, for the House to adopt that motion. There must be an opportunity and a reason for it. If my hon. friend, or any member of this House, were to propo.se as an amendment to supply that two and two make four, or that there are twelve months in a year, or that it is the duty of a good Christian to ob- serve the ten commandments, no one would be disposed to con- trovert any of his propositions, but no one would feel disposed, on the other hand, to place any of these propositions on tlie re- cords of the House. ( Hear, hear. ) The The reason why I felt bound to oppose the amend- Argoment ment is not so much becau.se of the termi of the Challenged, motion itself as because of the a.guments with which he has supported it. Mv hon. friend as- serted in his argument that because of the action the Govern- ment took we have practically violated the terms which the constitution lays down. Let me repeat to the House the first ^«SruL°?n'is^^ -Hi, Motion :~ Inrlependence of Pari ament^! Pnnc.p e of the Sovereignty and and the safeguard of thJdtif and' nX" 1 ?l!'''^' Institutions citizens, ancfrefuses conUuenUr to^ro.'''^' '''jf'^*^' °' ^^tish Government in relation to the '^nth a f""*'" "'*^ **=^'°" ^^ the which should commit thUcomSv to ^"''*" ^">'' « Precedent ^ Sir, when we determinedTo sVid^h."? T""^- '" ^he^future. ' • to Africa we passed aflOrdir tnr* ^m*^'"''*^''>' contingent that we did not intern ouJ act^n r?i^' '" ^^'"^ ^'^ ^'^^^d cedent. We were in so rlnin,f 1° ^ construed as a pre- not bound to Lke aV3 tSn '^ '^"''""^- ^« -«'« against the argument of m5 hnn f • ^^ u"' ^e<=ause I contend we took we did nS violarthe In w"^ '^^' '" J^" «*^^*°" ^^ich d:d not violate any pSnle of ?» ^^n^w- "J^^^°^ ^''^'"''^ we whole argument upo^[whi?h he hZ ""^'f ^institution. The pnnciple which he^has there lai 1 ^own th 'f T''^" ""'^ ^^e by our conduct we have violatS tiJ •' ^^■^\ ^^ «">■ act and Constitution, is founded on M,A. ^''e principles of the Briti..h red this expenditure before we h?H,^'-- "^?'y ^^at we incur- Parliament.^ Now sir I am nri^ obtained the sanction of course, to whicrwe acid '^ndTTrf '?'l^'' ""^^ ^^at this would not take it as a preceden >-::.. '"'"'^^ ""^ '^^<^^^red we well-understood terni of the rI U'''^^-'' ^°*"''''' "^"^ ""'''"" '^^ the attention of the House nrnf of rnl^"'H^"^'","- ^^^ me call authoritv upon these natters iLnnV ^"f'V^ *° ''^^ '^^^"^ard standanf authority is a Canadian H« ??''t^'' "'''>' ^^at that His work is acknowledged as beinith'. ^V '^^P''^"" ^«^^d. which truly lays down fhe doctri leVf P Jl? '^ P? ^"^'^^"ence ment in Enjjland T mil oA \- r»arliainentarv govern- edition of T?S After havne aid foP'^^f, '^'^^'^" ^'^ ^^>« '"^t mentary priiicirjle that nn I^,^ r! '^°'^" "'^ well-known ele- with t/ePprevi'S'^:.t?ronTtS^^^^^^ ^"'^"-''^ -'-s that there are .several exc^utLL i.l^-' ■ ^'"^^ on to say which I call the attention o? he iioni'"f, '' '^' '""^"««^ ^o point, however: "It i^s therefori ^ ^ ^^^"'^"- ^^^^ »s the the Government can be ahSS ' ^'^^""eous to suppose that plication or expeStire in eLces^o?^^^^^^^ '"'^-P- Even were it possible to do sn U ?f^ , ^ Parliamentary grants, the Government from exPend^^rni"^' ^' ^^^'^''^ to restrain stances, without the pre:Xl;"tLStT:rPa7Hament^. ^'^^"'"- Motion : — reignty and Institutions » of British :tion of the 1 precedent he future." contingent we stated 1 as a pre- We were I contend tion which anent, we tion. The n and the ir act and lie Britijih we incur- mction of that this clared we vithin the t me call ? standard that that us Todd, xcellence ■ Kovern- F the last lown ele- -d unless 1 to say guage to re is the )ose that V misap- y grants. restrain circum- BritUh Here is the law well recognized in England, Precedent!, here is the principle laid down, together with a series of precedents to that effect. Todd quotes several precedents, but I will content myself with two. The first one is : "At the commencement of the French revolutionary war Mr. Pitt advanced enormous sums, amounting to upwards of / 1, 200,000 to the Krnperor of Germany, to aid in the cfefence of the general interests of Europe, without the previous sanction of Parliament. Upon the attention of the House of Commons being directed to this affair it was proposed to pass a vote of censure on the Minister, but his friends interposecf and induced the House to agree ij an amendment, declaring that the pro- ceeding in question, though not to be drawn tnto precedent, but upon occasion of special necessity, was under the peculiar circumstances of the case a justifiable and proper exercise of the discretion vested in His Majesty's Ministers by a former vote of credit. But Mr. Bourassa may .say that there had been a vote of credit to carry on the war, and that the vote had only been exhausted. Well, the principle is the same. Let me call attention to another case which occurred in 1867, and which is quoted by Tmld : "On February i8th, 1867, the Chancellor of the Exchequer proposed a vote of /45,72i to defray the cost of buying Blaca's collection of coins and antiquities for the Bntisii Museum. Ministers had in the previous autumn as- sumed the responsibility of this purchase in order to secure this unique and valuable collection for the nrtion. Under the cir- cumstances the vote was agreed to without opposition." I could also call attention to another very remarkable precedent. I could point to the Goverimient of Disraeli pur- chasing the whole stock of the Government of the Khedive in the Suez Canal, and doing this without the authority or the vote of Parliament. Disraeli's action was approved by the British Parliament later on. Now, sir, there were British Liberals in those days just as there are to-day in this Parlia- ment also. There were Liberals who had not the label on their breasts and the badge on their necks, but the principles in their hearts, just as much as any Liberals have them to-' ^^'^ ^^'n- conringent to Africa has receiStheTnlSr'^ '" '""^'"^ ^^e House. What avails it to-dTv then ""^"'"'°"« sanction of this behind us the force of public ^opnL,; °hS^ "'"' ^'^ ^^^^'^ "«* guided solely by the voice f>ffh«' .^ r"^"^ '^'^''^ "^t to be more than oie i^^ Tt^r^^^tSl, ''S"' "^'"•^'" ^'^^ the press, but there is what is S^on thl cf f'^ J"- "^^ ""'>' conversations, and what one canXil « f^ -^^^ ''"'^ '" P"^^te that public opinion was wi h us ifilir ^'W' ^^^ ^"'^^^- tl'^t has stated on another occasion T uX^ '".^ "^^^ -'"^ ^«"- ^"^nd to be guided by public oryifon wlT' •"'%' !,' '' ^ ^^''^'^ thing as a weak thing. (Hea?hear\ )f1i\ r "' ^"^^ "°* ^^^^ «» it somethingagainstoneTiionor L P. '^'''''P""^" ^'^^^ to ask sense of cli^^ity, i?":ouW be' a ^'k" thlT "^"^^' °^ «"^'« public opinion; but if the vo^^e of h, "^ '"^^""'^ to follow that is r/ght and hoiior^L w?uld i fot^Tl!: n ?^' ''^^ % ^^""^ to follow the voice of public opiiion' T ' ^'^ f P"'^ tl"ng tlnng not to follow the vSice of SroUtr^^^ '' ' "^^^ Government woulVb^e thi^Tmmion'of";? •'^°"- '"^"^•- ^hat Had Refused, we !-cl ref Jt^'X / ^.r^^^.^^^^.^^ that time to doS^ L \^Z' uT' ^ ' ." ^^^ -^-'^ a? it is only too true tUt a' ," '7i^^^'"^"*' ^^'^ '"'Perative duty arisen-in agitation S„Vh°r.Vj-^''^''°"' agitation would hav^e would have^ei dedi 1^ flkie o^^^^^^ '"^ ''^" ^""'^n probability? greater calamity would never Hti?^^ "P°" ''^^•^1 lines. A friend a„a I lfav7ro„gTee /on te?^^^^^^ ^^>' h°"- thing to whiciic:'g^- ^:^^n^^^^^z mote the unity and harmony and amity between the diverse elements of this countr>-. My friends can desert me, they can withdraw their confidence from me, they can withdraw the trust which they have placed in my hands, hut never shall I deviate from that line of policy. Whatever mav be the con- sequence, whether loss of prestige, loss of popula'rity or loss of power, I feel that I am in the right, and I know that a time will come when ever>- man, my hon. friend himself included, will render me full justice in that respect. Character But, sir, I understand much better now than of the War. I did before what is the reason which has impelled my hon. friend to take the position which he has taken. My hon. friend is opposed to the war. He thinks the war is unjust. I do not blame him for holding this view. We are a British country, and a free country, an(l c'-ry man has the right to express his opinion. Mv hon. frienc s the s.ime right to believe that the war is unjus{ that Mr. John Morley has to believe it, that ]Mr. Courtney has to believe it, that many other Liberals in England have to believe it. But, if my hon. friend believes that the war is unjust, for my part 1 am just as fully convinced in my heart anil conscience that there never was a juster war on the part of England than that war. I am fully convinced that there never was a more unjust war on the i)art of any man than the war that is now carrie„ .he im,„i„„;;,?s the "a n™ ? rrdW,";;^ T.j;, 1 "v; "^^ '" ^^'^^ I'ltzpatrick savs : — "In iHS/i Mpscrc modifications of the ionv-^.,ff^,, Vi *f *° ^*'^'^'" ^^^'"^ oreai liritain. Tliey also secured the consent of ihf^ nrif,ci lo » ted them to wlopted the on and the :entury the the nations me, giving ;s. We in ame thing, the world, Y come, by :nship, and sir, was it ion of the its door to t nation to ) which its I assert invited a nin a book tied "The ^, I admit, ntradicted 84 Messrs. r to raise ^ain some use funds 11 had j list ■tunate in 11 conven- es, and in ^rainty of le British itry. In- h African nt which 1 remark, raiisvaal, lith were nnselves, of being y applied ar in the :iterested in the gold concession of Lydenburg, and he was willing to assist, but on terms. And the quid pro quo which he asked was some public assurance of good-will, protection and encour- agement to British settlers in the Transvaal. Mr. Kruger re- sponded on behalf of the Republic by publishing in the I^ndon press the cordial invitation and welcome and the promise of rights and protection to all who would come, so frequently quoted against him of late." I have never seen this contradicted, and I ask, in the face of this invitation by President Kruger, could there be any jus- tification for the policy afterwards adopted by him of refusing these i)eople th« right of suffrage and practically making helots of them ? The Taxation of the Transvaal. I am not going into the particulars of the policy of the Transvaal Republic, or into the religious question touched on this afternoon by my hon. friend. But let me give a single circumstance which is to be found in the last statement of the Year Book. The population of the Transvaal is 245,397, and the revenue exacted from that population is ^"4,480, 2 10 sterling, or |i4,4oi,(xx3 — very nearly ;f icxi of taxation per head. Let me compare this with the taxation of the three foremost nations of the world — England, France, and the United States. The taxation of the United States is about $j or $8 per head, of England |i2 per head, and of Erance |2o per head. But in the Transvaal the population is taxed to the tune of $100 per head, the bulk of which is borne by the Uitlanders. That population has to bear almost the whole of that taxation, and yet is denied every vestige of re])re.sentation. That being the case, we must admit that the (juarrel of England was just, wli-'U she insisted that her British subjects in tlie Transvaal should at least have the rights of citizenship when willing to submit to the law. I believe that her quarrel was just, and public opinion in this countrj- being anxious that we should take part in the war, we thought it our duty to satisfy public opinion by sending our military contingent, relying confidently upon Parliament ratifying our course. Imperial My hon. friend has submitted a second proposi- Relations. tion. It is this; — "That this House further de- clares that it opposes any change in the political and military relations which exist at present between Canada and II I have nothitiK to say Lafi^^S th«Vl ^ ^-^ ^''^P'^, "^ Canada." bttweet. Greft BrTtdn^a 1 rlnl P'"P"^"""- ^^ "i^ relations can only he chL'ge? ^ I n" iruf wit ''"'*"«^^^' ;^^^>' people. I an, not go.^ur to s- v t it i i ^^'-f, ^7«t"t of the should beascertai,,edhy a plebiscite For T Tv ""W^^ P^°P^^ provi,le' "« >" introduced that resolution Mr cTiil''?./"^^' ^'''' ^^^^" ^^'^ war. Now, I ask mv hon friJ,",,! f " """''' Preparing for calliiiKupon EnSlml t„ „?, J:,f. ? """' ''": ""^ol"" ultimatum sm.. -.n race o, ,,„c>. a SSro^SlSS, t i^tS^. %FZ. 12 le sovereign >f Canada." he relations nged, they sent of the the people the method (iient of niy lave chang- ist between U doctrine, e based. I 11 in many I which he nt to South leeii Great , and still we did we been com- He rather session ex- ather sub- uated that ned by an It nobody pposition, by us in when we 'ariiig for 1 a thing le eternal iring last ! Cheers. ) ying am- |ii porting inie came titnatum h Africa, hardly a submit t is pos- r. Cham- ! ( berlain had been preparing for war? No, sir, we were not forced by England, we were not forced by Mr. Chamberlain or by Downing Street, to do what we did, and I cannot conceive what my hon. friend meant when he said that the future of this country was not to be pledged by this Government. When and where did we pledge the future of this country ? We acted in the full independence of our sovereign ]X)wer. What we did we did of our own free will, but I am not to answer for the conse- quences or for what will take place in the future. My hon. friend says that the con. -r" "P°" ^"" ^o us to-day. I call upon bin Vr?mem£ tT^^^ '^''^ ^^ enjoys are largely due to hier Shall the sacrifice be Si on thloni^f''"',^" ^^'^ °ther side? the obligation all on one sMe and Ln ^".1 "^"f °" ^he other, not co,npelled to do wl at we d "l hutlt''" "'f ''^^'''- ^e were ous, to do a little more than w^ lere bounV t^'l '° ^ ^'^''- man living who would fiiul f«;,u -fu *? ^^°' where is a (Cheers.) He dreadrtheconL^uenPr^^M"? ^^'■. ^^^^ action? out a military contingent °rSou^K a f°- ""' ?'*^°" "^ «^"ding from the bottom of m? ^J?^^,tSis t^ oTth^o'^e! 14 he standing io to vSouth 1 we had to ve used the t called for They went llini^dy they le command ling of that nses for the ? their lives (Cheers.) >n because, thousand. >ndition of wanted to that they ed of you is country tid can my put it in give their :ause ? at if ever 1 not have fie present II. friend, >n him to le said to Jerties he lave liber- the other her side? he other, We were Je gener- tiere is a ■ action ? 1 sending- tell him le hopes I entertain of the beneficial results which will accrue from that action. When our young volunteers sailed from our shores to join the British Army in vSouth Africa, great were our expecta- tions that they would display on those distant battlefielcls the same courage which had been displayed by their fathers when fighting against one another in the last century. Again, in many breasts there was a fugitive sense of uneasiness at the thought that the first facing of musketry and cannon by raw recruits is always a severe trial. But when the telegraph brought us the news that such was the good impression made by our volunteers that the Commander-in-Chief had placed them in the post of honor, in the first rank, to share the danger with that famous corps, the Gordon Highlanders ; when we heard that they had justified fully the confidence placed in them that they had charged like veterans, that their conduct was heroic and had won for them the encomiums of the Commander-in-Chief and the unstinted arlmiration of their comrades, who had faced death upon a hundred battle-fields in all parts of the world is there a man whose bosom did not swell with pride, that noblest of all pride, that pride of pure patriotism, the pride of the con- sciousness of our rising strength, the pride of the consciousness that on that day it has been revealed to the world that a new power had arisen in the west? (Loud and prolonged cheers from both sides. ) A New Nor is that all. The work of union and har- Bond mony between the chief races of this countrv is not of Union, yet complete. We know by the unfortunate occur- rences that took place onlv last week that there is much to do in that way. But there "is no bond of union so strong as the bond created by common dangers faced in com- mon. (Hear, hear.) To-day there are men in South Africa representing the two branches of the Canadian family, fightintr side by side for the honor of Canada. Already some of them have fallen, giving to the country the last full measure of devotion. Their remains have been laid in the same grave there to remain to the end of time in that last fraternal embrace' Can we not hope, I ask my hon. friend himself, that in that grave shall be buried the last vestiges of our former antagonism If such shall be the result, if we can indulge that hope if we can believe that in that grave shall be buried contentions the sending of the contingent would be the greatest service ever rendered to Canada since Confedehation. These are the motives, at all events which guided us, these are the thought! which inspired us, and they are thoughts which ouSt to com mend themselves to the heart and jucfgment of my hon frien™ knowing him as I know him; these, in my judgment" shoSld p eSeS'"' "°' '° P'''' ^"^'^^^ '^'' mJt on^thaf he Jis