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 TMIRD 8KSSION, FOURTH i^iVRI. LAMENT. 
 
 CANADIAN PACIFIC RAILWAY, 
 
 HON. SIR JOHN A. MACD(»IALD'S SPEECH, 
 
 OTTA\VA, 17TI1 JAiNUARV, 1881. 
 
 Sir JOHN A. MACDONALD. Mr. Speaker, I hii.1 
 intended, on Friilay niglit, tu huvo miulo homo remarks on 
 the amondmont that was thou in your liutids; i)Ut, 
 uiifoi'lunivtoly for myself mid, podiapM, Cortunatidy I'ur ilio 
 llouse, 1 wuft tuo minili indicpoiioU to bu ubio to do ho, imil I 
 Wiis oblij?od to loavo the Ohamber. That luotiou In, 
 however, di9]X)Hcd 01 ; cunriidorahlo discussion was carried 
 on, but it is Hlill sujiposed to bo en riyk, and with your 
 permission and the permission of the Tlotise, I sIkiII oti'or n 
 few remarks, and tiioy will not bo lonp, on tbo Hulijoct ho 
 brouglit up and involved in lliat resolution and tlie amend- 
 nient, and on the discu.ssioi\ whieh ari)SO upon it. Sir, in 
 the tirsl piftco, I would like to speak of tlie jiosiiion of tlio 
 Governmont with rospeel to this whole question. It is 
 true itlia.sbeoii treated rw /fauscrm in this Houso and in 
 the c'ountr)-; but, lioluin^ the position that I do, 1 think it 
 willnotbe improiior, or idle, ora wasteo( lime,i(] recall Iho 
 attention 'i' the House to some of tlic facts coniierieil \\itli 
 tlic prcyenl condition of this groat enterprise, and it. doitij,' 
 so, 1 must ofVor tny most bumblo and respectful iip'dotty t<i 
 my colloafinc wli'i sits next mc, the hon. tin- Milliliter of 
 Railways, becnuse Ik- has n^ain and again gone ovi-r tlio 
 whoiu iJiround in a manner wliicli 1 may en\y, but whii.li 
 1 (.annot hope I" cmidnte. It is known that IVom the time 
 that Uritish Oilumbia came into ('onfoderation, and I need 
 not, read llio Jouriiuls of the House to prove vlio fact, that 
 the declared preference (•(■ both sideti of the Housi", oftho 
 then Purl iumunt, w:is in favor of the construction of the 
 Canadian I'aoilic Jfailway by an incor|>orated comjpany. 
 We corBmoiico Irom thai, starlinj;; point, and if wo 
 look through llio whole lino of llio discu.ssioii anil 
 the whole bno o\' the |ioli(;v of the two (.fovornmetits 
 which have hud to deal with that (juestion, we will 
 iind tills thread running through the whole siibjec t, and 
 connecting it in sucli u manner that it could not, 
 without complete Hoveratico of the thread, bo altpred. 
 It wa." felt in the cnuntry, in the House, and by cvei'v 
 thinking man, that if we hhoiild be f'orLunale enough, if 
 Canada should have sulfieient credit in the ntarket wheie 
 capilttlists do inobl congregate, to induce cupitalisls to come 
 
 forwar'l and undertake this great work, wo would havo 
 obtained for the l>oniinion a great advantage. Oar legis- 
 lation wa.s l«ih d upon that idea in 1H7-', The logislation of 
 the (jovornment that succec led us was ba.sed ujM)n the same 
 jtrinciple, that it wiis nd\ U«l.lt>, if )v,uwiblo, tn uvoid ull iho 
 tionbie, ros)ionsibilil}- and uncertainty, and all tho danger 
 to bo apprehended of making n groat work like this a 
 pnlitical engine, it wan thought by all jjttrties that it wa-- 
 of tho greatest coiisequence that all those obstruclions to 
 the successfil prosecution of the work, to tho ciiriying out 
 o( this grout onjoct, and connecting thi.s country from sea to 
 sea and making it ono in fact as well as in law, should bo 
 removed , that it was of the greatest eons<!qnonce that tho 
 work should be oxpolilod : that it should not bo carried on 
 iw a political worl; , that ilshould not be mudt- a niallerovci 
 wliicli rival jinrties could or wouh'. fight; that it should bo 
 undertaken on commercial princijdos and l>e built by a IxHly 
 of capitalists like any other railway, with the hope and 
 e.vpuctaiion that the capitalisls would get a fair and full 
 rtl urn for all their risk, lor all their expenditiiie, and tjr 
 .'ill their responsibility, 'ijio whole country wa.s in favor o( 
 llial ])ropos;tion, if it wa,: ]iossible to have it carrieil out. 
 Wo tric<l and wo "failed, although we m.tdo an eH'ort, a 
 strong and alnnjst a successful effort in 1872, to 
 tliu.s b'lild the railway, 1 will not drag into this 
 discussion, as far as I am concerned, and as far as my 
 remarks are connected vvitli the subject, any refereneos 
 to the political |):l.st. Al'usions were male to it by tho .so 
 opposed to the tiovornment, especially by IIkwo who desired 
 to asperse my.sell'; but, Sii', tliere is the record, there is tho 
 fruit of tho !i]>peal to the coimtiy.and J am Prime llinister 
 of Canad.'i, Jiut ndiatevcr may have been the cause of tho 
 failure of Sir Hugh Allan and the lirsi eompanv that wtu 
 organized for the purpose of building this road, 1 can see, 
 without rel'erence to any jtolitical reason, why that com- 
 jiany was defeated. I can only say it was not from any 
 want ot the sironi^nsi oj. position ottered to tho <.iovernmenl 
 ot which I was the head, but it was in consequence of the 
 two things oi-curring ( igethcr : the personal object In attack- 
 ing the Oovoinmcnlaiid the desire to overthrow the scheiuc 
 

 h' ha^ livcii ur^'cJ in tlii» IIvuh*,', and ] s;iy il has Ix on 
 j'Kivoil, thai tlic ))ioi<onl hdionij laid liOt'on; tlio llmisc lor 
 Mr- appro' 111, is ft more fj.vonibK' Kiliemi; tluiii Ihul ]iro|if>!*uil 
 ill 1»72 \Vli:Uovi'r mi\y bi Mio ii-oritMolilnwin'orHdr tpiulirs, 
 Avliato\i'i- may la i!io iiioriU of Iho lust idl'.T lliiil li:i"i jnsl 
 liei Ti iiiiii un llio Tabic, I Loliovo 110 man nf ciiiidur and 
 lon.rann sciisn miuI who iin(lcrstiind< li;;iireH, hiit wjII ^0l• 
 iIkU tliu pi'ijiosiliiin whicli lliis (iovurninoiil, on its 
 ios|iuriHibiiiLy, onluted into wiih ilio .Syndiu;iii' in lioO, 
 \A mom fiivoniblo to tlio (oiinliy tliaii llio :ir;'ani;o- 
 ineiii mado with Sir Hiij,'li Allan Ju 1H72. 
 And 1 would uA< this* Uoum' and tlii-i countiy if Canada 
 would no; have liocn a grout j^aiiioi' il' wo had accujitod and 
 I aniiMJ out. that |.iojiositioii ol'SJr .lugh Allan in 1H7-. 
 Niiic prtc:iour* y.'ati* havd boon lost sinoo llial limo whi-'li 
 can novcr bo ii;oovircd, dunnjj tho wlmlo of which that 
 roail would havo boon in Hucoo.^-it'iil ]ii'o.','i-css o('c,i;iisti'Uclion ; 
 tilt) uicn i)iii;apod in thai ^cllCnK•, it thoy coidd hiivo go;, 
 tho ear of Iho Kiiio|ican ca))ilidistt4, wc.o (^tt'oiii,' enouuli tu 
 ]nitsl\ that road aoioss ttio ouuntfv, and at lln; end of Ihorc 
 nine ycat"'', instead i.>t thero bein„' ccaroui}- the lootjiriit of 
 tlio white man oiiliddo the ProviniM,' of Maiiitidiil, ihoro 
 voilld have boon hiudioUs ol tjiousaiids of poojilo whi liavo 
 gono from mcfc do,-jmir to the United Stules, cro^'din^ inti 
 our own Noi tli Wo-l Torriioi-ie;'. Thai coinitry, instcati of 
 liaving li'i; a binall scUloniont in tho oa-.tovn ond of it, 
 vvouhl havo bcpii the liap]iy homo of hundrods of Ihoasnnd'* 
 — 10 iK>c tho ■iiuallor't figure — of oivilizod men, of Piirnoi<t, 
 active, lahoi'inf? men, working for them^e'voN and llicir 
 liunilioi-, and makinij; that country inr.ih .■■'X>nor than il will 
 bo now, a j.opiilon.i and p^.l^^j.l■)■ouH country. But there is 
 lilllo 11:0 in rogrcts like Ihco. Wo on tliis initio of tho 
 House are not 1 ctipon.slbli! for tho 'lo'ia.y, \\'0 aio not rospon- 
 t-iblo for tho Iosh of time, and wo appeal oonfidoully 
 to tho country, aioi ooiitiilontl}' to jirj-ttority. Wo 
 a|)])oal coiilidcntly to every candid man to say 
 if thin I'ominion of oniN of wjiich we a.-o^so prond, about 
 
 iho iutiiro '-I "'liir.li wo ni-.i >■•, aiiicioM^i aivj ^■ot .so corlniu, 
 
 wotiid not havo heon infiidtidy cjrenicr in our time, in tl-o 
 time ot tho olikfct of un, if tho future of ihat country would 
 int liavo f.ieon 0]wnod out an a groat, bianch of the i>oininion 
 if Iho (ontrai^t of lS7',i had been larrioii ()'.il. Still, Sii', it 
 wa.s not to be; our ott'orts failed and wo tool in tii'i~" etforii?, 
 1VC wore i!uccecdc.| by a (iovernment stronj; ii.. numbois, 
 htroiig ill abilily, and at the hoail of it n practical man. 
 The fact of Ids lieinu- a jiractii al man was a loaUcr of biiast 
 aid of Junt boii^t, aiiion^.- tho'-o who rallieil arouid him. Ho 
 had dircclod his hoht energies to tho ^ubioct. .H.- had at 
 hi.-* back a Itody ^0 .strong that no Ojipo.sition could otl'ootivcly 
 thwart, hint, oj)pos- him, or oven to (.i>r<triict him. And 
 that lion, hcniloman t-iatoc hiin.-^cU that Jie wati not 
 ob.siructod, that he .vuf not ojipo.^o.i, tlmt ho wa.< not in any 
 w,.y inqiodod Ly tlio Oppohitioii ol tho day. And ho, Sir, 
 took tip tho 4111110 line of j'olioy in c>sonoc that wo initiatod 
 111 1872; aiid fio ondcavorcl honestly ..ind faithfully, f 
 holieve. to roliovo liln Government and reliovo hiuiielf and 
 hin ]i;,i ly from the rcrspoiLsibilitier* ol his )ioHition, and of 
 tho pledgor which wore made and which lio and those 
 who Borvod riidcr liiin made, an'l wliich wore ohiigatioiib' 
 whieh could not withoa' .li.shonor bo biokon, whicli 
 could not bo (lolayed, which could not without <lisgraco 
 iind di!<< lodit be ])ost|)one'l. It was adinitted 
 that it was a siicrtd (d)ligation ; il wasadinitlcd Ihut there 
 was a treaty made with Hriiirth Columbia, with tho i.oopio 
 !«id tho novoriiincnt of Hriti.-h t <,!tiri!bia, and not oidy wa-^ 
 il an agrconuni and a Milcmn barg^un made between (.'ati.ida 
 and '^hiiish (Joluiubia. hu'c it wa.-; toriaally saiictiored by 
 Her Alajcnt c'h (i(iV(n-iin'v!nt, Ii was 11 m.lt'er of (.'o'.onial 
 iiolicy and lni]icrial policy in Kngiaiid ih.-i;. tin; road shou.d 
 liO constructed, and tho lalo (rovornniciil, headed bv my 
 hou. friend fiom l.arnbtoti— who i.< absent iVoin irn oiaco 
 
 today, and who 1 foar ir* ubsoni liom the .-(one cause which 
 compell'.ii my ahsciuo on Friday night, and 1 regret his 
 absenco very pincercly — I Miy my hoii. friend felt him^■elf 
 bound to that policy. Moth the (■Jovcrnmciit of which T 
 was ! ho head and the (.iovcrniiont of which ho wad tho 
 head wore bound by the origi uil ro.soluliond thai wore 
 passed at tlio limo that Jirifish Coli.mbia caino in, were 
 hound lo the policy ihal Ihi.s road shoulil bo built witli the 
 aid if inoiioy ainl land, by an incorpoia'.ed comjiaiiy, if 
 po'jr<iblc, aii<l, home Went so far as to say — hiillt in no other 
 way. ilo wii^< hampoiod by that obligation, but ulthough 
 it hampered both (lov'i'rnmoiits, yet inu.smiitdi as it wa.t tho 
 dooUirod wi!*h of I'arlianicnt, and muot bland until it was 
 removed liy I'arli.iinent, that losoliilion was notai. iiifVingo- 
 moot of the ciriginiJ anangonienl.. Tho bdegatos from 
 Jiritish Columbia ^at hero when tho motion waa 
 carried , ilu'V wc.ro hero assenting to il at tho 
 (irno it bocauio in l.'kct tho law of the land, and when 
 they wont homo ilicio was not a word of objection or 
 reproach from tho liogislature ami tho people of Hriiii»h 
 Coluriiliia. All thoy wanted was that (ho sjiirit of tho 
 resolution should ho carried out soLir a.» mencouid carry out, 
 honestly aud fairly, and Hti:i',>,'htlin-iv;irdly, tho solonui 
 ompact, iho oblif^rtory pledge. The treaty not to bo 
 broken without dislionor into which wo had ontored. Both 
 (1 vernmoiits loll themselves bound lo make every esortion 
 to liuild t^ic ladway by iiuans oi the inleivontion of a boily 
 ol I'apiiali^ts iociu'ixirated for that pui|,nM!. As we had 
 tried to do to did the hUcooeding Oovernmeiit, and they 
 advert. sed iti tho manner which has been stated ■iml 
 ox)daiiK.'d. and 1 need net go tliroiigb lie details again. 
 Aivonlsumonts wore issued by tiio lion, member for Jjanib- 
 lon, llici) the In ad of tho (iovcinniont, calling m tho 
 ca|Mtab-.ls all over tho worhl looonio forward and tender for 
 this xvork. J>irl the tondeis did not oomo in. Whether it 
 was that Canaiia had not tho credit it now ha-^ ; whether it; 
 was that tho Govevnnicni of the day had not tho (u'edit that, 
 the iircscnt (iovornment of CiniiL iia.- , wliothcr it was 
 that the oircumsiancos of *he monoy noirlcct woie uupro|ji- 
 t!.>us at tho lime , wliolher il w.n thai the (I'liintry in tho 
 ^'ortli-Wcst was not fo W'-'ll-kn'-wn then a.s now, I cannot sa}-. 
 I'orliajis all tlnso cau<- ', or son.o oft hem, conjoined to jiro- 
 vent succois; I'lit al ah .•vents the call ujion the capitalists 
 of tlie wiu'ld iiv ho late Uovernmont did not sm coed. Sir, 
 as I undei'j'tan.l it, that wius uol a mere otfer giving capital- 
 ists a certain day to re.-ponc', as it you were going to build 
 .'I hou'o, calling up m them to j at in tenders by u pc.rticular 
 day al. twelve oclock, and inliirmiiig tliem that 11.1 offer 
 coiihl bo received afterwards. There was, in the lir.st place, 
 an invilatioii Ir.nn our (Government calling upon cajiitalisis 
 to compote. Thoiewas an invitation from the succeding 
 (i.ivernnunt calling np.jii the najutalists of Iho world to 
 confipete. That was an announcomcnt to the whidi; world, 
 ind who wo ro'-oivod, gladly ami ii(inef(iily vecoivod, an 
 oiVer from jiartios who, ve bciicvo, wore in evoiy way ablo 
 to carry out the enterprise if Iboy undeijiok it, we .olt 
 thai we were cariyinj; out tho repcator|'\- (.xprosse I wish of 
 Parliameiitj ths desire of evciy man reailv on b ith sides .if 
 the lloii'-o, tha' (he ticveinment should Lo rid at oneo nii<l 
 for all li'oin (his rc.-ponsilility. And, bir. 1 might 
 allude to a speech I nuide before going to Ihiglaiid, 
 in th'j spring of IHM, rnd i do so, because it 
 was a iiofioo lo the comifry. The lion, gent Ionian, 
 with his legal mind sticking upon legal technicaliiios, m.iy 
 argue that a .speech of mine was not .1 legal notice; but upon 
 a previous ocoasion wluni tlfchon. inombcr tlrLamli'on was 
 forcing n measure up m the country without notice, he said, 
 indignantly, to iIii,sUoii,4o: '• Kvcry man hasroa.i mysjioeoh 
 at Sariiia. When 1 went, home to bo eloctod as l'.'"omior, I 
 !;avo notice to the whole country of tho policy of tho 
 ( Jov(i!iniont,and wo havo not taken iho country by Hurpriso.' 
 
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 T will nnk tho lion, tnnmlior, if that diil not occur, ihut if 
 what is sancti (nr dho (iniinai of a piirticiilur kinil i-< n^a 
 Kauuo t'oi' uniitliiM' iiiiiii\al oi tlio Name kind ? 
 
 Mr. HLiVKK Wo do not --ay liu \» a yfOoHC. 
 
 Sir JOIINT A. MA(;i)O.NAffD. Tiiat is a icudy answer 
 frota an ijnjMT. 1 lliitik my lion, fi iciid will |iafdi)n nio 
 Cur tlio tilliisK^n, l;o(;aii.M> lio Imni^lit it on iiiiiiHoll', ,'illlioiit;li 
 111) Ihi a l)i)icd MO one will < hisH him aaioii^; tlial liruiic'i nf 
 hiliuil.s. Lut mo read what I i-aid iu tl)oS|iriiij^i)r IShO. "When 
 ! icl! you that ul thin moment (hat tluie arc a lUiinbtM" 
 ip|' cMiiitali.it.-. iitlVriii^' to ImiM the mad, dcoi'iu-* ol taUiii^' it, 
 oil' lliu harld:^ of lliu (MivirnmoiiT, tt'id also iiialiiiii,' ilu'i;' 
 own t'oii.iiiii'M Ly iiinnin^' it and by the settlement of the 
 land KOl apai't tiirilb eoti.sir . 'ti m, i^ti'.,cli'., I uino MuiJ that 
 '• iho (it)voi nmonl lit thi.i nionicnt have the o!ler andor 
 co(i.«lderattori. ' That, Sir, went to the countiy. It was 
 I'opiod and commeiiled ii|iiin It was coinmciilod uimn hy 
 the organ ol the lion, tjoiu Ionian o|i|)()Mite. It vui,- ).iili|i.-hi^d 
 and coninienlud a|ion hy every (joliti'iil |)a| er in tiio 
 Pomiiiii.i of t'anaici. Xolice wa.-i freel^' i^\\ui) wlml our 
 inu-ntion wan, and .-.o there was no reinnii.^trauco made then 
 a,i to our wuiii ot |iower in doing »o. .N'oU^dy .s|iiil(ti at;aiii>( 
 ourhavint; the rij^lit to do ho. W'l" woio conirralulalml 
 upon liaviiii; lluiuHer made. The wdio|,> icmo o| theUnpo- 
 bition iiiess wa^^ ponh-psoluni^ the thini,' " Vou caniioi cet 
 cupiiali.its Uj huild il. Vou will noi hoHuteetisful, hut wn wi^li 
 you (jod (ijieed.' That wa» llm tone ot llio tlpjositi on 
 jiiosf hofoie \^ii went lo J'ji^'hmd. Wo iniijht huvi ei.'n- 
 cliidiiil thai Contract under the .spirit and teriiiH ot ;he A(t 
 ]iith--od hy ihc |iievion.>t Admini.itifttlon. 1 w)iild much like 
 to diseuh.s lliiil matter ol' law with the lion, (^enlirmaii 
 oppo.'itc, but il i^ too lar/.;e u inattor lor us to deal wilh in 
 that way. We |o|t that this sclicmo was on-- thui mu.st 
 pledge Iho fortunes of (;ana«lu and the i-eetiiie.-; of 
 (Jan., da for a great many years, i.iil that it 
 wa.s due to iho people oi' C-'-m.-vda, to tho 
 Parliament of Canada, and to the lioverninent, that their 
 seliso mIiouIiI III.' ohtaitK d hetiire We put it into i .vceiltion. 
 AVe did not in that re.-ipe«t lollow the ixanijile of llie 
 (iovernment thai. |M-ei(«Ud iH. Some of tlie brancl\ lines 
 involved tile ex))i'nditure of very lurgi' grant.-i of money ai;d 
 the present liMiler of the Op]io.«itioii look .-t long grounds 
 against th(' lalt^ liuider ot the Oi'po.-.iii(ih when the hoii. 
 imnihor for [..amhiou det hired I hut a eoniiacl had been 
 given and thai in tain work wa.-i to proeee.l. The hon. 
 iii.'inber for West iMirham a.-^ked him — I f ug' t the extiit 
 i|iiestiou put. liiit the answer wa" that he (Mr. Mai'ki'iixie) 
 had liOthiuu; inore to LCi\e .u.d that he actol upon hi- own 
 a 'ihofity. 
 
 Mr Kl>AKI'. 1 tiiiiik the lion. geiuh man i-- mistaken. 
 He reli I'S to llie i|iie.-tioii 1 pill asking fir llie.aul'iorily on 
 •Ahidi the hoti. niemlir tor Lamiitoii iiroposfd lo liuild tin- 
 Ks(piimalt and Nan:iinio Hranrh. 
 
 Sir JOHN A. .MACDO.VALI' V.s, thai wn- ii, Thf 
 nn-wer will ^p<>akliir it.silt'. 'J'Ih' hon. v'enih inaii ((Ue-iiiMud 
 hiin in leg.iid to tin aiithoriiy to h'ldd llu' pi.rtjoii from 
 liM|i|ilna!t to N'nnaini". Jfr. Markeni'.ie unswele! that le' 
 li:id nothing lo ;i.k from I'arliiiinent. ! ii-k if th:i! iva'- n •; 
 lb- ansver be ga\ e, 
 
 .Mr. B[jAKK. Xo; llie answer gr>\ii lo that part of the 
 iliiestion wa> lliiit he hivl already given nolire oi' ihi- intio. 
 (iiie.lion of a Kill lo amhoij/e the ''on-tnietion ol ihe rao- 
 way, v.hii-h was adill'eient answei' to my iiue.--1ioii. In tb>' 
 hanie speech I asked the hon. nienibcr wlielhcr be wa- going 
 lo Miiiiuil the Cii.'narvoii lerni" fir Ihi; appr iviil oi tlu 
 TIon<e. iiiid the hon. g 'ntleinan ^aid ilia! in that p.ii'li.ida!' 
 he had nothing to iihk I'arhaineii;. 
 
 Sir .JMIIN A. AlAClM.NAI.I.. Wi.ll.Mr. ^pe.ikcr, Mr. 
 M;tckon/,ie told the hon. geiitlcTiiiin thai he had nothing to 
 ii.-lc I'ariianieii' foi-. an I il wjs :d'ter ihaf. til'ter iie fi iind he 
 
 WAR going lo get tho sullen opposition of the hon. gentle- 
 men, and tlnii. ('live o( .\dulhim, whieli the hon. gonilemnn 
 had toiind behind hi-- bin-k, that he w!ii|ipcd .Mr. .Mttckon/.iu 
 inl'.: Ihal sliilem.nl. I eannot In) mistaken The eirciini- 
 Htaneo is deeply iinpre-.se 1 iipcui my mind Tho'io.orn- 
 nienl J say bad every right to use all their exertions in 
 order to relieve Ihomselvi'saiid the country of tho obligation 
 of building this loiid, and the still greater ohliu'.itioii of 
 running il. Ij't any onovonsider for a moment, what these 
 obligalioiw are, and i'ov. thev pre.is upon the (iovorirnont 
 Woneothisin the Inlcriolotnal an 1 in every )iiililie work. 
 Why, Sir, it is uciually Imposhihlc, although my hen. friend 
 has oveirome many oh.meles wi'h regard lo the Inler- 
 colonial Kui'way. for ihn (iovornmenf to run that railroiul 
 saliifar'torily. Il is ma le a political eaiise of eomplaiut in 
 oveiy wuy. 'I'iio men that wo jmt on the railroad from tho 
 jKirier upwards b.'eainu civil servants. It' one orthc-e men 
 in put Oil fioni liny cause whalevisr, he is said to be a 
 jiolitical hack. If he is removed it is said bis lemoval was 
 on aieoinil ot Ids political opinion.s. If a cow is killed on 
 iho road a moiion is niado in respect lo it by (ho member 
 of the Ifoice, whn has the owner'n vote as support. The 
 ies|ionsibihty, the exjiorse, tho worry and the aniuiyaneo 
 o( a (iovernmeiit having charge of such a work, are such 
 that lor lho.su CHUae.s alone il was coiiBidered ad- 
 vLsablo 'o get. rid of the responsibility. Wo 
 liavo bad uiougli e>'id(»nce ol t!mt in this House. With 
 respeit to llie qucsii'Vi raised hy my hon. friond Irona South 
 liraco, 1 have the answer here. Il is; 
 
 " '.Vi' ha-.' iiovcr .u-kcii riirliuiiiviit fur tlin nulliurilv ful miTvly coiii- 
 iniiiiini't' M i'.irlbini-nt ilii.-iilcri.-tlim, miJ rrlv iipmi tin- it iiisr- (o .-iiiiiport 
 11:1 ill iirii piiiig tin ("niH iii.iili> tliroiia'li llii'iiilfrviiiiioii or iiiciliiitltiii nt' 
 l.uril Ciiniarvnn : Hinl Hint .'iipiiurt I .i') n<it ctuiilit will lie clicerlull) 
 iiroimii-ij. ■ 
 
 Well. Sir, W3 wont to England, and though in fingliind wo 
 oci.;isionally saw what wa.s going on in tho Opposition. 
 Oh, iiovv frigh'ened thej' wore lest wo should su •cci.si, and 
 caHegiam afic!- cablegram eiiti.o lo Caniula informing tho 
 country, with an expression of regrol. tha' wo hud miserably 
 and wreli'bedly failed. 'I'liej' said it was an evi- 
 doiico of want of. contidoiico ut tho people of 
 Kngland i ' trie prescril AdmiuiBtiation. llow could 
 any body or v,.]ntalisl8 put any coniMeiiee or trust in 
 !i (loveriiinent daiiicd with the i'aeiflc Railway scandal .' 
 It w.'is said that if antithiM- (iovornmeut having L'roater 
 purity of chaviietcr. and greater ability, and possessing in a 
 gr<<ai dotriuo the contidenceof I'jiropoan papilali>N who had 
 iitidertakfii the enlevprise, the rowilt woiiKI have been 
 dilVerent. There were tears, eroeolila tear ])erhaps, 
 di'opped upon tne iinbappy fate of Cunadn in having such 
 an iiieoui]ietcnt and eriniinal (iovernmeiit (h;it eould, 
 wiihiii nine years frnir the o'rigina! transaction, carry 
 (Hit a beiietiejiil nrruntcomoiii by wliiidi il was pr-opose'd 
 lo endeavor toget llnglish capitalists to take Uieir plaecand 
 build Ibe roal. However. Sir-, we did. Ana in tho 
 spcich i;t Hiichelaga (iiat ) hear so niiieh about, a 
 .speech that can liaiilly bo dij nitied by tho nnmo 
 Ol speech, 1 annoiiiu-ed tho fad (hut we bad made (ho 
 contract (inn. J say so now. We made the coiitraci tirin. 
 The occasion of my nuikin;:; that speech \\'as u)ion in\' 
 airival ut llocbehlga. I was pre-eriled with an address by 
 I'luh (..'artier, a ("on-ei-raiivi institution, and I made lint 
 aiiswer. I do not retriicl a wopl. I wnid : ".Vs for the present 
 I !io|)<( it will Iw e.pi;il!y true. n^;d for the t\it!irc that I may 
 be aide (o l->.>k down by-aml hve on h.> I'.niiie Riilway a.s 
 eomplo'.'d," and I hoped ii wi iild holone with (he assisiaiici' 
 of lion, i.;-'ntlenieii opjiosito as lonjr as we were in the 
 I i.ivorninoiit, bii' 'be projct that bns heeii laid :)n tb.> Tabic 
 to day, shows that they have abimdoni'd all idea of ever 
 building; the Canadi'in I'acilic lJailwa\ By a political 
 jilot they are tryitig to put otf the blunie np"u others; bu'. 
 not witl'.stu'aling tlitit p'o; wo arc going to biu!d that r>ad, 
 
nnd Iho oiin;innl lioaty will 1ki carriwl out. TIio pledge 
 Kiado to Uritish Columbia, the |)lo(lgo8 mode in roforonco to 
 the future of IhiH Dominion will be cnm«Hl out under the 
 nuBpioea of a ('onHorvutivo (Jovenimont, and with the s^jk 
 )iort of a Conservtttivo parly. That road will be oonntruct^d, 
 iind, notwithstanding all tho wiloH of tho Opponition and the 
 flimHy arn.ngomcnt which has been concocted, tho road is 
 going to be built and proceeded with vigorou.sly, continu- 
 ously, ByHtematically and guccoHnfully to a completion, and 
 tho fate of Canada will then, as a Dominion, be Realcd. Then 
 will the fate of (."anada, an one groat body, bo fixeu boyond 
 tho possibility of hon. gontlomon tounntttle. The emigrant 
 from Kuiope will tind buroa happy and comfortiible iiomo in 
 the groat West, by tho exertion of tho ConHorvntivo party. 
 But then, Sir, comes the intorjoction. AfU<r tho nrrangc- 
 menU have bten made and tho Government had made a 
 contract that lion, gentlemen opposilo three or lour years 
 ago wouhl have laugho<l at and bragged and lioastcd of a.s a 
 wonderful jiroof of their HU])erior adminiNtrutivo ability — 
 wi.' now liuVo the nwtorlion iliut tho contract was made 
 without duo authority. Ah long iw Moitlecai nits at tho 
 King's gate ho will proloftt. Wo have had to take part in 
 Ibis discussion with genllemon who are uccomplished 
 actors— my hon. friends oppusite. These lion, genllomon 
 lire perfectly trained histrionics. But. .Sir, tho l>oi*t actor is 
 not always successful. Wo have had tragedy, comedy and 
 farco from tho other side. Sir, it commoucod with tragedy. 
 The contiact was declared oppressive, and tho amount of 
 money to bo given was enormous. Wo were giving away 
 Iho whole lands of the North-Wost. Not an aero w ■ i to bo 
 loft for tho free and independent foot of Iho free and 
 independent settler. There was to bo a monopoly handed 
 over to this Company. Wo had painted the tyranny of 
 this Company that was to ovor-ritle the peoiiie by laising a 
 high tariff, and tho tyranny of a great numopoly which was 
 to keep in their control a largo ai-eaof lands — out of whii li 
 they expect to build this i-ail way — for some hundreds of years, 
 in order that through the exertions of olhcrs tho value of 
 tlieir acreage might be increased, and this was tho tragedy; 
 !»nd hon. gontleuion opposite playe<l it so well, that if thej' 
 did not affect the whole audience, wo could see toarh of pity 
 nnd sorrow trickling down tho cheeks of gentlemen sitting 
 on that side of the Ifonw. Then, Sir, we had the comedy. 
 Tho comedy was that when evory one of the speeches of 
 those hon. gentlemen wore road to thorn, it was proved that 
 last year or the year before, and in previous years, they had 
 thought one way, and that now lliey spoko in another way. 
 Then it was the most amusing and comic thing in tho world. 
 l''.very hon. gentlemen got u|) and said, " J am not bf)Uiid by 
 ihat. 1 1 is true that I said so a year ago, or it is true that 1 said 
 so two years ago, but ci'cumstances alter cases, circum- 
 stances are changed in two years, or one year, or in eight 
 months in one case, but what I said eight months ago 1 am 
 not bound now.'' This was very comic. Itamiiiedus all. 
 it amused tho House, nnd the whole countiy chuckled on a 
 broad grin. These hon. gentlemen .said it is true, we were 
 fools eight monlliH ago, and two years ago ; but, bectiuse wo 
 wore t<x)lK in the past you have no right, being Mininlers, to 
 bo fools loo; you have no right to advocate tho follies wo 
 dvocated then, when now wo assort acts of wisiloni <,u our 
 l)art. This was the comedj*. Now, Sir. the lust thing thatcamo 
 was tho farco. Wo Ixid the farce laid on the Tnblo to-dn)% 
 The tragedy and comedy wore pretty successful ; bm. tho 
 farce 1 am afrniil, with an ini))artial aiuiionco, in theatrical 
 phrase, will be damned. It is a farce, but still whether it 
 will be farcical in its consequence, 1 do not know. 1 do not 
 . Iiink, for my part, that it will bo farcical in its conscfiuenccs, 
 occauso the greatest punishment Ibata farco writer or a farco 
 actor can get when ho has played his farce, is that 
 his fai :o is unsuccessful, and tho audience hisfes tho act, 
 and this will bo tho consequence of this charming farce. Jt 
 Ins been plaj'cd to change the metaphor, Mr. Speaker, 
 
 may say it i.i too thin. It won't catch tlie blindest. It 
 won't catch tho most credulous. It won't catch the most 
 unsuspicious. No one of common sense, no msn who can 
 say two and two make four will bo caught for ono moment 
 by this fliinsy scheme, Mr. Speaker. It was concocted hero. 
 It was con:!octod in Ottawi^ It was concocted as a )}olitical 
 engine, the reason of it was this: Well, tho present 
 tiovernmont have committed them.Kclves under their hand 
 and seal, and hero is the seal of the Minister of iiailways, 
 and hero is tho Order in Council, and hero is tho contract 
 Higne<l, sealed and delivered. Tho (iovernmonl nro pledged 
 to it. They cannot got out of it, and wo are quite safe. Wo 
 can nmke any offer. Wo can make an oiler to build the 
 roml for 11,000 a mile. Wo are (juito safe. Wo can get all 
 these gentlemen to sign, and I think, although 1 was not here 
 at the time, that my hon. friend from Niagara showed that 
 tho incorporators and petitioners I homsclvos, who make tho 
 offer, under this precious document, seven or six 
 
 Mr. I'liLMB. Tiio number is feven. 
 
 Sir JOHN A. MACDONALD. Seven of them wore dis- 
 appointed and defeated candidates at former elections. I 
 need not go over their nanios. I read tho snuech of my 
 hon. fViend, and I tind that it is a political ]>lot. I would 
 lu-k my hon. friond, the member for tho West Hiding of Dur- 
 ham, if. lohn Walker is not a rather rcmarkablo politician, 
 i would ask my hon, friend if II. 11. ('ook is not also a 
 remarkable politician, and so on, Mr. Speaker. It is a 
 ]M)litical ploo got up here. It w.is ^quite easy, oh, 
 so easy to make an offer knowing that tho Govern- 
 ment cannot, or ought not, or will not accept it. We 
 made a buigain with a company in gcxxl faith, and wo 
 proin'stvl that it shall be a coinpaet betAvoon tho Dimiinion 
 of Caniula and tbom, providetl that tho I'ai liumcnt ratilies 
 it. Wo were bound to sidimil the afrrcement to Parliament 
 lor ralitieaticm, and there it was argued. The 0[t- 
 position say to tlu insclves : •' The Government cannot 
 m honor, cannot in decency, if their policy is dofcattvl, 
 remain in office, and, therefore, wo will got in, and wo will 
 take care of our friends, of these seven or eight jiolitical gentle- 
 men and their eonti-cres. AVe will make things easy for them, 
 nnd so arrange it that, even if their olfei- was accepted by us 
 when wo go into ofHco, we can let thoni out of it." I say that 
 that ilocunient slxiws on its face that it was drawn up hero, 
 and for the purpose of removini; from these gentlemen 
 ap)uvbonsifin that by any possibility they could get into 
 any serajio, because, on the face of the jjapers, there is a 
 series of <'lau>os providing that the Government can let thoin 
 out of it. These hon. gentlemen havo made up their minds 
 that we must go, they have nmile u[i their minds Ihat wo 
 Could not respectably fuuain in office. Theysaid: " Well, our 
 sentiments are known, evcrylx^dy knows what wo think 
 abruttho construeticm of tlx; Canadian Pacific JJaihvay, and 
 what we will do, and what our policy is, and what, when wo 
 gel in, wo will carry out, and that is, to let you out of buililing 
 all the diffuull \y.tvU of the I'oad." It is a game all on one 
 .-iilc, Sir, but it is loo thin. It is in vain for tho fowler to 
 spread tho net in the lycs of a bird. We must bo blind as 
 bats, and tho eoiintry must be blind as owls in tlio 
 il;>y, if they do not sue that there is a net, and 
 ibo}' will avoid the net, Tlii^y will not be caught 
 by it. No web in the not is going to catth tho 
 intelligent c( nimuaity with those |iapers before them. Sir, 
 these hon. gentlemen had I'cttcr ha\o dealt with tbismntter 
 in getKini , thoy eonld have said other (leopie are ready to 
 miike a contract. If they 'ind said in their placoi, thoy 
 knew of their own knowlcilgo tiiat corlnin jieopio were 
 ready to como lorwaid nnd build the railway for a 
 small sum ; iben, Sir, some poisons, who would not see that 
 it was merely a flank movement to obstruct tho formation 
 of tho Company, and to obstruct tho organization of tho 
 t'ompany, and to delay and postpone the construction of tho 
 
roniJ, mi^lit hiivohiid thoirfnilh nliukon, but no mftn, be ha 
 0''or HO nimplo, win h lit to bo olcctml i'« thit Ili>>ii»o, can 
 read uIno on ihor<t< pnporM ilmii lluii it ih a ] olitii-ul trick, 
 and a iliHcnHlitiiblo triok, oh I Kiii<l U^oro, that, will rdrloniiil 
 itormaiioiitly to tlm diHcitvlit anij liisjiuncr of nil tlioHo who 
 navo (i(>n<'o<'lo<l it, and ol all thi>->o wlio )iavi> jniiic<l it. 1 
 do not boiiovc that tho lion, inenibor frr tho Wunt Itnliiijj of 
 Diii'hnni will ;.,'(ii up in lji'4 plaf'o iiiid lulviito ihiH liovorn- 
 mont or thif Houho to ucccnt tlic pidiiimition >i|' tliix wcond 
 Hyricllcato. I >^i\y I doty hirn to >,'(ii ii[) and do h{v, I know 
 ho will not j(ivo Micli ailviro, I will not, holiove nil lui ha>4 
 Hflid, anil buliovc nil tliiil tbono who bavo spokun Croni that 
 Hidoof tho lIoiiM! have inxt^l roM]iii(iin>( liio f1 rut Syndicate, 
 byadviHin)if lliiM IIoiimi to lui'upt tho loMponHihililyof voiin,,^ 
 for tho pronoHition whii li has .hiicn nnido by ih<' Hooond 
 Synditat". riii'H(f lion, (^cntlfnion cannni doit. Wliai huvo 
 ihoy told US, Sii ? That thin |iroj)OMili(in waH ilU';.'iil. Tho 
 lion, incunbor for (Jloiici'Htor told un it whh illo^'MJ 
 and iiiicotihlitiitional lor tho llovcrnnioiit to havo niado 
 thin nrrangomoiit with tho tiist Syirlioale. .'ind how 
 fan hrt voto to ^,'ivo tho contract to thiM-ocond S3'ndioatt' ? 
 The lion, nu'inli'* lor Norib Norfoll; Uuh told iis ibiit somo 
 porliotiH ol ihi.-< arranj^c'Mimit aro anwin'Mo. Vol tlio-<o very 
 clatiNUH wbii'li In.' ciid wore a Kwiiidlo aro inc^orporatod in 
 tho jimposnls (d' tlio mw Syndieiito. 'Ihoao voiy claiihes 
 whiob tho hon. f^ontlonian so cloi|U«nlly, hiil rathor tinpar- 
 liaiiionlarily, (huioiiiircdl iih a hwindlc and a frand, ho will 
 tind lioro, with tho two i<XL'0])tioiis. Lot mo lirnt look ovor 
 Homo ol" thohc tdauKos. In tho (ii'st ])Un.x' our lcrnin wore 
 ftaiil to bo o.\(<'>sivo. In coinpnii^on with tho ternirt of tho 
 pro.''ont boj^'ii.s toiuior thoro might bo a pretence for a»Humin);; 
 thai. In tho next place it waH said that wo bad no right to 
 cnntraet ox('0|)t upon tendeiN 1,'ivon in ropier to an advtM'- 
 tJHomont. Hut tliiH in the point to wbiih I will call tho 
 attention of tho lion, monilior lor Noith Norfolk. Tho 
 manner (d' selecting tho l;indn undoi oiir proposal wa^^ said 
 by hitn to bo a Mwindlc, a fraud and a robbery. Yot theno 
 gentlomen, !Si;' \V. 1'. IJowland and (jonipany, say that they 
 must bo allow, d to perpotiato that »wiiidlo and carry out 
 that fraud or lln<}' will not uiniorlako the oonlract. .Suroiy, 
 thin being the i-h~k\ the hon gonlleinan will )iot vole lor 
 tho second .Syniliiuto. 
 
 An Hon. MKNinKK. He will do anything. 
 
 Sir JOHN A. MACUONALD. Then it was said: 
 "Oh, tho (iovornni iul is j^oioi^ to build tho road 
 from Tbunilor Hay to Ued Jtivor; Irom Kamloop-* 
 to Yale, and trom Yale to Port Moody. Why' 
 tho Uovcrninoiit will become a partner with tho Syndi- 
 i-nli}, thai will never do." GonllcaKUi who used tli.t 
 argiimont cannot voto for tho now .Syiidicato. Tiion ihore 
 was an arguinoni used that tho hchonu' for is.-iuiiig l)otHi.-i 
 was wrong, iliat the contractors would i.-suo the bonds and 
 leave the bondholders to wliistle for their money, and tin- 
 jiooplo (d't'aiiada to whistle for their road. Vet the general 
 jirinciplo for 1 bo issue of bonds is adopted in the proposal 
 of .Sir \V. P. llowland and (.■ompany. Tlion Mr. Speaker, 
 there wa.s a great gruniblo at tho sinallnoss of tho dcpoxit. 
 Tho oll'or is u million ol (lollai's. That is tho oiler luuiio by 
 tho gentlotnen of the new Syiulicalo. 1 have leariic<l I'l-om 
 my hon. friend since 1 ; :inio into the Hou.-e ibat tho uew 
 Syndicate gentlomen thoui.'bt Ihoy could yo one more — to 
 nso the language .fray goisJ frieiiil Mr. II. 11. t'ook— and 
 they bavo >eiil down corulicalci to the exlout of ivvolve or 
 thiitoon bundled dollars. 
 
 Some Hon, M K.M lUOI.'S. ()h, oh. 
 
 .*^ir JOHN A. MAt'DOXALD. Hon gontlenion opposite 
 must not bo unparliamentary. 1 am speaking at sonu^ 
 disadvantage, because 1 am not well, but I will niiikc mvsoll' 
 beard. Tho pixi))osition just laid on thoTablooi' ihe IIou.--u 
 is that the nienibors ol tho now Syndicalo shall make a 
 deposit of n million of dollars. I uudoratand that they haro 
 
 Hont c commanlcation by telojn''*I'h «laling tliat they havo 
 doposiioil |l,2i)0,(l00 as security ) that when tho eontruel Im 
 Nigne<l they will do|K>Hit tho million ibdlars permanently. 
 M'oll. .Sir, this is a small trick to put up t'JoO.OOl) over tho 
 million, and yet if you |(H)k III the contract, lying on your 
 Table you will soo tlnil tho Syiiuicii'o buvo to put uji tho 
 wholo of $5,(100,1)00 by ibo Isl "lay, 1S!(2. 
 
 Mr. ANGIdN. No, no. 
 
 Sir.K>llN A. .MA(M»OXALI). I bcgnot to bo interriipt.-d 
 again. I Ihlnli that an oM sjieaker ought to know some- 
 thing about cloconcios ol debate. 
 
 An Hon. MlvMHKR. The Isl of Deoombor, \HHi. 
 
 Sir JOHN A.MAC'DONALD. Thoy are to put |l,OllO,liOO 
 to remain jiormanently in the bands of the (iovorninont. 
 They are to iiut u]) the other t J,OiiO,llOO by tho l.-l DeeemUu-, 
 IHH;^ -mid that is ft sulllcieni ^eeurity t/> the country and 
 to t hi* House that <be Syndicalo will not Had it to ilM 
 advtintage to sell the boinls and then abandon the work. 
 The pro|«pr.itinri that ihcy would do so is so absurtl, no 
 diser.'ditablo to those wh()iniik<- it. that it is alniost unworthy 
 of noiiee Ibit, Sir, bol'oro I call Ihoaltenlion of ibo flouso 
 to tho new Syndicate, and show whiil .i cMnphio farce it Ih 
 — and I do riot use a word too strong when 1 do.icribo it an 
 farcical — I woiibl say that when I iuleiidc^d to spetik on 
 Friilay it was simply to state that the (jovcrnmeiil, as a 
 (ioveriirnoi;t, fools itjtelf lioiiiicl til call y out tho contract it 
 has entered into, in good laitb, and tlmt it biis a right to 
 challenge, and does cbalioiige the voleol'tbis Houho. They 
 heliovoit is the bestoirei' tliat has buen niaclo up to that titne, 
 Thoy U'liovo it is one whicdi will be sati^-tiictory to tho 
 c^c)utilry Wc! Iielieve it is one! that will not involve tdlinuitoly 
 the expenditure of si.xpeiuc by tho iieople of Canada. 
 We believe it will carry out tliat lor wliicb it was intt^nded ; 
 that w(! sbouM carry out tl o early lonstiuction of the 
 railnay ; and, we are bound to ask, on its own merits atid 
 without rcferonco to any attompled obsiriictinn at the 
 eleventh hour, by lli(),bjinging out of bogus tondors — and 
 ami I use the word boL'Us, not witlistuiiding the ro-poclability 
 of some cd' tho geiiilcmen who have signed it— that the 
 contract lie adopted and the road built aecoicling to tho 
 wishes of the people and I'arliameiil of ('anadii. It is not 
 eonstitutioniil. ami I wouM not say tor n moment c>r hold 
 any threatening laiiguago to Ibe II011.-.0, indicative of what 
 ooiirso the (Jovernnioiit ought to take, or would tal;o in tho 
 malter, if, when the^' liavo subinitled their besi jiidgmont, 
 which becomes a p.nticm of their )Hdicy, it woio not 
 tidopied. ibit all 1 can say is, to use an e.\prossi in which 
 has been ratlicr ccKbrat^'d in Canada, thai I Ihiiik wo 
 should liiid aiid bo told by bon. i;entb'in 'ii oppo>ite — and 
 this docuinenl is prolmbly prepared for the |iiirpi)sc of 
 giving them llie opportunity — that nir uieiulncss was go|iP. 
 The 111)!!, gonilemcn opposite liave not biildeii their lights 
 under a inisbel ; their words have not heeii spoken in a 
 corner. Wo ixnow tho govoining policy of tho Opposition, 
 enuuiiated on several ciciasion-*, and repeatcl in this House, 
 during tho presetit Session, by ibe leadcM' of tho 
 O|)position. Wi) know lie is oppo>od to the building of the 
 I'liuUtbrougb H.itisli Ci.liimb'a: lliat be ba-^, from the Ib.ie 
 the subject was biouijhl Imloio Parliament, pioto.ited against 
 it, Using such liingiiago to that Province ii> — erring 
 "isier depai-t in jieace. Wo know he has iiili<'ule.| the idea 
 of torcing a railroad tlirough an iiibospii.ible ri'gioii, a sea of 
 niouiilains. tiiat would get no tikllic, but lie built at an 
 enormous e.\pcnse and bo of no real value. The hon. gentle- 
 man lias iiilhercd lo thai jiolicy. Last Session he moved 
 that tln< liirlher construction of the road throu^'h Mii(i>b 
 Colunibiu. in allusion to the c-oniracl given out liy the 
 jiroiiit (iovornmoiit nndei adverti.semenls piiMishiMl by tlio 
 1: le (iovernineiif. jind fir the ])ur|iose ol caiiyin;!; out its 
 policy, be ]s>st|)onecl, as also all av'lion with that object; and 
 I exp'Ct-s my ri\gret at t'le unavoidable ahseine '•!' niy hc)n. 
 

 
 friond fifim Lnmlifon on this oroanion. l.m, (rreat af> f 
 j-Ofjrof. timt, r »lill iiiKi'o jLcrt'iilly nmri ttfl liii hiiniil'aiinri at 
 llio tlmi- Ihi<I Si'?--!-!!! wlii'ii ilic lii.n iti;iiK iiiilnV iiiiitiuii «.ih 
 in y'lir Imiiil-*. II I \si'n< IiIk woixl «i ctiiy. ihi"I \vis|,n.| in 
 li-iiini|ili intT lilin, I wiiliM iKil ilimiic i ({i((iiti>r liiiiniliiv- 
 linn, n Mipridf fiil(>, (If u inoro vrclt'li>-<l ciiilini; 
 i>r n xinti'tinnii lliiiii iliiil, at tli« wliifi ot Ih'' iniin ulm 
 litiil ili>|Ki-.'i| liiiii-df llif nmii wliK IjiiiI r<'iiiin("l 
 mill Hii|i|>lHiiti«l liiiii - h<t nIkiuI'I Ik' oMi^'isI ic ).tii hJH nwn 
 wdinIh Hill! vote In (iiVMi- of |ii.-.||ii>Miii(f ilitt c'oi'»irii"i'i>ii i>l' 
 llio roliil lliniiii.'li Itrili'.h ('iil'ii)iliiM-- llidl ln' uli'i'ild lmv« \'i 
 Imliu— I iiM! not lilt) W(.rl in un iifri«ii>>lve koii-o — liiit own 
 tiilvoi't'-icnii'iit. iiiiil all iliK iirii<ii\ (if liiit tioviM'M'tioiit i'l 
 ii-<l(inj; t'lr totidi'i-* for tlm laiiMiii;f of llmi miul. Wliiii ilil 
 ll;!il iihciliMi'iiiOMl iiiciiM nii<l llic (.•iilllii« fur loiiiUir« .' ^VnM 
 il II liiim, :i IViiil'l — ii«M\iiiin>;, liku tilow wlio 'li ! M't 'iiii-w, 
 lliiil lIu'liDii. ^iinliMiiiiii wi'iit iliiwii til 'liii i|i>|)ili« of ili'fjm- 
 iliilinn, ti) um> Mint iii>;iinii«nl lilii|K,(|f, iind say lli.il ho did 
 not iin-an niiyiliiiif; liy llmt lidvrrlirniniinii, |iiii, mori'ly 
 ^^•i^ll^d lo :iM'i>i iniii llm prnliiil.lc coht <ir llin work ? licciiiu.: 
 It Win hfiiiivl in iliis Hotis.i ihiil llml wii« ilio ofiji-ft o( 
 )-.>iiiiijr llm iiilvoill<i>iii''iit. Hi.i tlilit coldni'jtiir-* Wi'i'O ciillril 
 ii|ii)ii t() I'liiiKi t'inin not oiilv III! purls of iji,' I' iniiiiioii. liit 
 Sin Fraiici-co, ll,v rnitiil SIjiIi.m, Riij/iitiid iiikI llii< world to 
 < onddi-r tliii nuiltor, iiiid ;lu>y Wi'io to '^n ovit llm wIioIm 
 ^ii.iind with thoir Niirvnyors uikI onyimior-*, maUo thrir 
 RiirvcVH nn(\ t'!»tiiniiUii« lit tlic i/rciitiwi ironhlo iind oxjiiii-ii 
 in oiJ(>r to II* iirtii'ii th« t hnriutor of he woiU, and lliiif iho 
 ('iiiiiidiiin (loviM-niiU'iit inijcht ho iihlo ti> miv !■• tlntin 
 iifli'i svhiil.'., '' (I'nIlcnuMi wi) iiri- vorv iiiiiih ohliu'ol to you 
 I'll- Iho iiiformati III you havo tti^'on iih, j;nilioii"l nl voiir 
 uxpoiiMe mid not al ilmt of ih.' iiiildn'." 2^ot. oiio of iho 
 >:oiillomcn of the Into Oovnjniimnl could havii donu tin*', I 
 uiii siiiYi, or liavo Kitid that Iho ndvcriiHoiin'iil wuc not 
 h'lna fu<(, WHS not 'ni' (lit. [)mi|)|"i!-o of i^iv.ti); out iho 'vor x, 
 oiliorwii'O it wiw .1 mnidiory, a il<'lii-ioii und a hiiuii-, nii 
 injury til ovrry man [nil lo pxjkhiho in roMioitioii wilh I 
 and to all tlio [•poloosionril nion ami oa|iitalints of ilio world. I 
 tnilHt Mi> tho ]v>li(y oftho loader of tlnr C'piKi-itinn vva-* 
 (ivowcl and ox|iro«!*<' I. In tho tiist placo Iom poliry an a 
 Miiiislor 'voiiid 1)0 to slot) all ilio work in British ('olniiih a 
 — not a nolo would \m luiilt — not n train would ovor rim 
 tlirciitrh llrit';>h Coliiniliiii if ho roiild liolp it. iVoi an nrlii hi 
 (if Inulo or I'oiiinioiM" would pa-^s ovor a litio tliroutih ihut 
 Prf.\ini-o to tho Kiwi if ho hud hi?t wdl, and that Proviijri' 
 ivoiild lio ooni|iolli'd to iippoai to ilio parioiioiini jiowor, to 
 (ho iiiHijci. ofilii Bviti-.!! (iovoiiimonl niid I'arlianicnt, wliiro 
 jtlMtiio i« alvvay^ roiidorod, lo roliovo lior from toniii-i liiii 
 wi'ha poopl',' HO devoid of Imniiv. mi devoid (if oharui-lor, 
 HO unworthy 'd' u plat'o iiinoni; tho nations, and lot hor 
 ronow hor iinii.odiaio roiinoi'iion with Her .Nfaic-ty's 
 (iovorninont, whioij w.nild "oo that jusllco wan iloiio lo lli:it 
 loni; KiiU'oriiiji ]iro|i|o. That wu-- tho piPiiiyof tho Icador of 
 ll.o <)j)pu>ilioii with n-irnid to tho Wosi. Now, 1 is poliry 
 with rogftid to tho V,i.\>i. w;is liiHtiio to tho const rut t. on of 
 tlio load north ot I.aktt Suporioi. \\i' nv i«'h lli^ pivdiiic 
 lion for tho .Sault kSiu. Mario lino, to run olV iho trwlo into 
 tlio I.'iiitod Slrttos. to Hlronfjthon, to rcnow, to o.xlon I iiul 
 dovolop our oointnoroo with tho Unitod Sfalos, to llii> \iilt r 
 doHlnulioiiof ^ilO|,'r^.•llt)ll.1ll,^!l^i.■. and polio\ of tho Itoiniiii m, 
 whioh is to oonni'tt tho (/loat omiiitii.s '•ornposlii ; ilio 
 notniiiion from soil t.') son hyoiu; va^l iron idiuiii, wh:. h 
 oaiinol an I will lover bo liiokon. Wilh our (oiMiiion 
 looliiiL's of loyalty :ind nlloninri'o lo oiii' (.•oiiiinou 
 Hovoroiffn, influonood hy nil tho priiioiploH wl, rii 
 iv'iiiato Hritihh siiIijodH to ilcniro lo livo mid <:!'» 
 undor tin) British crown, wo i.hoiild havo in •':adr 
 (d this moans of oiinnoclion tho p •ouniaiy intoro-ls if 
 111 ilish rolmnliia. inolinini; llu"n to iinito inoio fii iiil\ t i 
 tho to. ! of Iho Domiiiion. a,!! of the Province^ ihus hocomiii^ 
 nno country in jiriiieipio, loyalty and intorc.st. TInu was 
 tho polioy of lion. f,'oiitloinon. and il wa.s .siipporiod, and 
 
 would 1)0 mpiiortod, hv tho wholo party. It wiw stipportod 
 hy their or;^ttn ttiso, 1 do not often iviid it, for I do not 
 think it very wholocoinu luiidiiit;, hut I ikiu told it now ){oo^ 
 ill htioi.;(ly for the S.m|! ,Sio Mario rond. Yot wo nil 
 roiiioinliur, \'\>v I havo hoHrd il rond iiiany a timo, llio 
 niniiNur in wlii(d) that oi7;iiii inday'sof oil doiiounoe I tlm 
 hiiildiiii; id the Stiult mad ».> imiloioiiH lo llio iH-t inloi'esl-< 
 ofCanalu, and dimtriiitivo to thofutiiio of tho Uoiniidon — 
 iiM (.ali'iiialed 1.) unite as willy-nilly wiili tho .Stat on, hy n 
 oonimenial coiiiioclioii, wliioli iiiii>,i |ai |o||owi>ii hy a 
 politioul oiHineclioti a little laior. Tiiiiurt oliaii^ol, und I iiiii 
 told thai or>{aii HlioiiKly supports the hoii. lomJor of tho 
 < tpiioMilion |iiHl ii> -trolly' li* honio years aijo it viiforousU , 
 'ind ill u loyal British sonso, oppo-od him. (»llior nioii 
 ({ovorii that paper now, and il the i hiof man who cotidiiolid 
 thill pa|)or HOI" now living, I ilo not lioliovo ho would so 
 lielio his wholo life and all his illlor<)sl^ a> lo siirniind :i 
 (,'re:i; connoitini^ prliioiplo which, wliatovov inight bo llm 
 Miihjocis of foiuoiitinii uoross Iho floor, Uojit him 
 alwiuH unitiid \vi,lJlA the parly of wlii( h I am a hunihlo 
 iiiomlior, always'*' iiiiitod In defending liiiii(<li inloresl, 
 in doloiid'n^ iiionat'i liiuiil iiistluitioiis, and m tiyiiif; 
 ax far us |o«sililo I i ke-'p us a I'r.ii and iiiJopondent 
 poopio of ail o.ytoni.il reluii'iis wilh any oounirv in ilm 
 \\oild oxoopt our Kiand old Mother Ijounlry lA' lin^luiuL 
 N'liw il is ipiitc clour that tins doiMiinent was pn^purod hero 
 lor a political liso. I would only call ihoailontiun of tho 
 lliuiso to a very few variaiioiiM which iiio mado in this 
 cunliact (loiu Iho inaliail thai Wi! laid on tho Tuhle. und 
 you wid Kou that it in pii<pured for ho oxjiiohh oblo't ol' 
 c.ialiliiiu; tho most timid iiian—iin widin^; Sir William 
 I', iiowland, who would n<)t ri>k 8.'>,OiiO unless ho wcro 
 lorl'iin I f ^'oitin^ it iijjain — it i-. drawn for tho purpose 
 of oiiahliii^ llio inoht timid niuii to Mii;n this doittiincnl, 
 kioiwii u; lh:^l lnw.issufo. It w.'i-i— heads, 1 win; tails, you 
 I i-i>. Those who coniiocloil llmiiiso'vos wuh this oxjioctod 
 that tho piosont t'iovei uniont must und would lullioio lo tho 
 first contract, und, therefore, a now (ii>v«riinieiit woidd liiko 
 its place, and i- y lion, li ietid would take tlio place wlnoh 
 J now iiiiw .rtliily occufiy — a jilaeo which his individual 
 aliilily and in lividiial /,o;il and o.scit.oiis for his party would 
 or, able him lo adorn. 'I'licy l-.iiow what his policy wo.ild ho. 
 Ho has declared it ho recoiitly that I lio not think he can 
 idiiii.i^o it. To ho Mire he can cliiiii^o b.lwoon 18X0 and 
 IHSj, hut thoii. ill this ease, ihu oliaiifjo would bo .so rapid 
 lliu even my lion, (riond's vol. sutility ol Ulont would not 
 allow him lo ( haii/c so spcijildy a.> tlmt. Well, I coiuo to 
 iho new oflcr, and ^vha' is tho tifMt proposition / 
 
 • Tliii i'imi|iiiiiy iiliio lii'rebT iff.rn, ii ilu- .■vfiil >if ilir (lovi rniipiiv 
 ili'Hioti^ Ui vviiliiiiuw liuiii dm projio.M'l coiwriuMidn nl" ilio onslt-oi 
 -I-. linn, lliHl till' r„r,i|iiiiij chilli rnl.icv Uic wii.l yiilj.iii|v in luiincv «miI 
 1. 1 111 ly 111!' iiiiimihl ap|ii>rl!i)ii«(l lo'lliii *ii!i| i'u,?l(,';ii niTi.ioii iif tho niilniiv 
 mul'<r tlio nth iiMmnmiili nf llii,-^ iiniiKMid " 
 
 Now, the t,'cni lemon who mado thai londor did not inlend 
 to build the Lake Superior soction, bocaiiso tlioy bolicvcd 
 thai tho pra-ieiit tiovoriiiiioiit would insist upon the Lake 
 Sdporior sci non l/oiiif,' built. Tli.y hijicd wo would bo 
 (Ictiaicd by tho jiroller of tlio Hocoiid ,-;yiidirale,atid that Iho 
 lion, u'ontlomon opjiositc would eonio in, and ir that ovoni 
 ol' the (ii)vornnicnl desiring to \v;lhdra,v from tiio 
 proposed oonstruoLioii, they would do il for yo mucli 
 lc:s. Tlioy had the ))iovi(ni'ly p'cdi^'cd policy of tho h oi. 
 ,;oi.lloinaii Ihat he would withdraw it, Ttni-ofoi'O they 
 •wro j;ro|iarini; in advaiioo. and ihoso o;hor tlirco elaii.-cs 
 '. (ir'iKo llio, ami will ci.i.viico every tiiaii. that thin was 
 1> ililically drawn, thai tnis was a politioal plot, and tli:a 
 tlic-o nil 11 — soii.o ol m.io moans, some of less, and fcOino o»' 
 noi,o III all— could not ly any p'ssibilily run a chunco oi' 
 t'oifiiitliii^ a siiitrle sLs-jienco, eilher hy buiidiii;.; tho Lako 
 iMipcrioi- iioctioii or rioiiiHi; a for leu years .nlicrwuuU. 
 Tho next i-eouon is in* loliows: — 
 
 •Ma tlio event of Iba (iovcriiinont ilenitiiis to witlntrBw liie siild I'ABtpvn 
 
 ■ ' ;mii I'nmi '■(iiHlriicliMr licii.iriiT, ilic <'.iiii|i(iii_v fn- l.y .i|)( r» te i'"i'- 
 
7 
 
 J iluw vKftrl, iiiili'<|uli>, «»ii mil nprnil.' n« .t l>nrl ol iVn Puriii-il oUt, llio HloUIUor laii'lilii' ill. Ill.lilUx Will ilixi llftlffO 
 
 K" ll'I'-'IUjil i^loJK'C, 1111,1 lIllMllj;!! Olllll. id to |[|i> I'lll' WoKt, 
 
 "II i!i'iti-li tcnii'iiv, iiii'liM llic iiriiixli ll.>;;, un'lci' ('i»iiii'liiiii 
 
 IiIWh, DIkI Villiollt IIIIV l'l;Htl(r 1)1' I'illlOl- tlio illlllll^l'lllll lM>ill^ 
 liclll'loil or i-LhIui'ihI IVllllt lilt lllll';;illlU'« i'\ llin |i:'<>|)<iMi'<t 
 
 i'i"<i<U'Mi't> ill (.'uiiiiilu, "I tlii> irunii' i'hiiiiiil; trmu l'ji:(liiii>l nr 
 Amiii A-'iii l'fiiij» niiliji'i-li'il In tim |«i>-.ililr imiliiliiiorv oi' 
 
 lll!oll^i^ll l•^'^l^il■liVl« IllXallnu (>!• I'll.-liiMlr* infill, llllirs 1)1 u 
 
 l..I.r.wMit, iiii.l I .nil ll.o niIiMilir.|i to it ..( my lion. ,i,,„i^.„ .„„•,.,•. So llml it U .|>l>l.) y.:\-M- lliat (Iiuno ifUt\M- 
 .. Ill i\w .•opiiwiiiiilinti ..» V ictoiMi :- „„.,, „,,, ^,„-.._.^.,,;. „„ „ ,.|„.. ly. Tlw.v woiiM l,f uudiir iu» 
 
 oMlKiiiiMir 1 111 liiiild tin vn-y i>X|uiiHivr |Hiriii>ii-< of ilu» rniul. 
 Till'/ «.iiili| lie r<lii'vtxi tiiiiii riiiiiiiii),' any |ioHinii nf 
 llii> i-iiii'i thai Miiiilil iiot uay, Citnmia iiii;^lil wlii»tlo 
 for tluwo < (itiTiuclii)ii» III lior owti tiirritmy, lull tlio 
 lit'ii|ilii woiiM irni'luiilly soo i)i:il ilio cnloiiioi woiilil 
 i;i-.miiully Im i-ovonxJ Uniii t'ltili nlKorj lliul wk .-hmikl 
 I'liroiuj" i\ Imiidio 111" Hlirk", «s wo wiM'ti bt't'iirc, witlinm u 
 liindiii;^ coixl. iviid thiit wo -luliiM i'all, liellilc+i, |iiivvyi'li)nt, 
 mill iiiiuloHi, into tlio lininlH of tlio lU'if^lilyiriiif^ Ili'|>uiilic. 
 I.rl UN I'Dilfiidi'r wli'lt tliiK iirtiir im. Tlnrue ij;.)iilli'iiioii uro 
 ^olii:, to Imild III! |ii'iiii'U' I'oiid for (7,i'<<i I u mlln, Ht;^al ii.it oiii' 
 8 lU.iiOO, mi'! tlii'N' iiiako u t'oi'fVh|i(iii'liiiir riMliiciinp. in \ha 
 ■liiiiiilily o( lunil. Iliil you mu.'^i I'oniutulioi' ilmi it tlmre in 
 a roiliKtioi: in the (luiinlily d' lurid, llmt liiiid will li.i ii>;bt 
 alod^niiii' Ihn ruilwjiy on thf |)iiiiiiii. Tiny will fiist idl 
 tlio land wlu'io it i.-« inn.ii viiluulilo, It Ins liooii '-uiiou.ily 
 <':i!oiilated ari uoilh $r>. $1, t.{, SJ, -liid |1, lull il Ih quito 
 cli'tir iliiil if till! praij'ie "Oi tion only ii lo liu huill, ul! llio 
 land «ill i><< takrn from tlio irainodiah' viinnity of tlio ladway, 
 W'hilo if tlio wliolo i- I'liil', inui II ol ihu iuiid will bo lidcon 
 far away fnmy tlio railway at diniini.HliDd valuo. Uoori^u 
 SiojilKHi \ Co. iniisl luku tho land wlioii,? tlioy oaii got it. 
 Tlioy ran only i;ot nomc 11 liOO.OOO nf^ro-* from Winnipeg to 
 Jaspor llourio, and llio ronittiiilor of llio 2.'i. 000,000 .icrort 
 ill. -y nin.^t find oi-^owhoro. In oivlcr to innki) it worth n 
 dollar — wortli unytliinff ni all, th<'y must Liiild bruiitdi 
 railways i:> tliono point**, and lliin IIounu and ooiiuliy would 
 Ijo onl^>- too glad to givo tlioiu thin porinifhion, 
 in oidor that thoy niij^'iit opoii up uthor huctious 
 ol" country far awny " .)ni llio main lino of the 
 lailway. iii't wo hiivo tho oi.siitnony of Hon. i,'()nilomon 
 ( 'iilio.vi'.o ii.1 to what, aioordii'g lo thorn, fiio lands in llio 
 vir.i.iit V ol Lhd railway :iro worth. 'I'lio railway will luu 
 ihrou..li the nio.Ht iiTtiio poi lion of Uio land, and .siill lurtiier 
 imroa-o tboii value, .-.o lluil iho protit lo ho ^'airiod in luiild- 
 itif; tho jirairie ^ol:lion of tho railway out of tho lanls in iho 
 iniinediat*" viciniiy of Iho railway whiili ato lo be haiido<l 
 ovor to tliu now Syndicuto, i^ a niiii'b hiri.jor |iri)lit than 
 all tho iirj, 000,0110 will n'wo to Ji conni.-inj- bound to build the 
 wliolo lino I'rom I.ako >iipis-inf; to tlio Paoitlo. .So it wu^^ ft 
 wry. vory ..*Mfo barj^'ain to iiiako. Thoro W a litllo point of 
 ditforomo botwoon tlio><o iw.i tondci's. to whk-h I oaniiot 
 I'frain from oalliii!; llio attontion of tho Hoiiso. I havo 
 rlieady flaloil ibat in goin;,' ovor thin Hooond olVoi'. J find 
 they havo just out (Ut of tho pi'iiilo<l jiipor iiioKt of tho 
 claiihoj' '>f tho oontriRi and llio .>.chodulo, but roliioinx tho 
 prii-.o. J!ut llioro are homo chan^o.i, and tlioroisa eiian^'o 
 ol ono liltio woixl. to wliioh I think, I ought to call llio 
 u'.loiilion of tho Iloil.so. Wo all ronionihcr Iho diH(nis;<ion 
 hotwvoii luy lion, fiioiid froni Lincoln (Sir. Uykoil) airl tho 
 hon. Kador '■'f tho Opi'Osiiioa iip.'n the r|uo.^lK>ll whoihor 
 tiioiv WJI-* any jiowor which could lorco tho railway company 
 to construct tlu? railway, and my hou. friend (Mr. Itykort) 
 quoted tho Court of I'haiicory. 1 .stated tli;il if A wa.i 
 iiicroly a )nrmi.s>iivo contrnct, it could not, of courno, bo 
 eiitiu'cod. Tho only consequence of 11 ]i(.'rmi.s>iivi! coiitracl 
 n.ii U'ii.!,' (urriod init. would lo that oilhcr tho charter might 
 be <aiu oiled by V'urliaMiciil, if that was the law, or lh"ro 
 niighl bo an actioo for ilumago, by way ol c<injpcii.siition. 
 But it tlicio was a statutory obligation, if ii wa.s jioi nioroly 
 
 ulruot wiihln 
 • ''iniw!* I'kcl 
 •iiiK, 111 fi»ul 
 
 Tho oilier sect Mil lil.owi^e, lho\ were put in Iho tender whicli 
 
 Iho lion, gelllloniHil oppiiMlti Wnill 1 acce)il, liir the pUl|M)seof 
 hilildinft liridor this I'luitiacl, if lhc\ gel it, the .Siiiill Sto 
 Mhiic l^llvl and throw ovor the I<ilke .Snperiur soelion. Il is 
 bo clear that he wli • runs may road. Noiv. hir, tho '.iNt 
 cluuHO, this ivlaie* to ...y constitiioncy and iho Pnivineo 
 which I 
 "ragu 
 
 " 111 tlii> I'vi'tit (if 1,1 IliAi'Tiiini'iil ilculidii; I" |ii<iil|iiiiir cr wi'lulnri Ireni 
 llm ccni'triiciieii of ilu- mulcrn inrtliin ct ihi: *«lil miiIxht, t'liiinliiiK tidiii 
 KuiiiUiojit lu I'liit .MiMiili, ill! <' uliiill >H' Hi lil'i,'i'tv ti> il'i nil III Hiiii ler It 
 
 leiiii ..r|:),f.(K),iiO(i ' ' 
 
 Thiiro il tH again, 111 chair lor a roud running towaiil^ iho 
 win to Yalo. 'Ibo hon. gent Ionian is against a niihi of' 
 railwiiy lioing hnilt in Hiilish (,'oliiiiibiii, and iiow gladly ho 
 Would ro(ei\o thorn (.'cntinnien wbciiever tlio) caniii to say. 
 •' Well, you dmi I want to press iistii build thi-. logo mi w'llh 
 I hill now ;" and the boii gciiiieiiiari would "iiy " No, <t'e lU'o 
 t(H) glifl lo get rid of it." The last cluiiHc roails Ihus: — 
 
 " In llic iw -nt ot !lie tliivi'rnmi'iit ilt'^lriiiff In piHlnoiu' er wlllnltiiw IVuni 
 coixtnictlnn, by the ('iMii|inii/ la iruiidei, uf llin wtnuirly |ii.iii'iii el the 
 ii'iiirni si'inlciii iif Hiiii! milw.'kv— — ' 
 
 That is to Htiy, the fii-st cont act is tu build from JvimiloonH 
 down to Kiiiory s Bar, thai is imdor coniraet, imw; biil tiro 
 rimaining 450 nnlos. fn in Kamloop- through the Km'Uy 
 Mounlainn to .l.i.-pcr llousi-, c- ilio roughe^t of aiis jKiition 
 of the country: — 
 
 '' lli'Mig tli(- H. .ilcrly 4.1'i iiil'i'» ttioreof, ad uinitiaiinl in tlio Dth 'UiiiiB 
 ol'tlii.^ |iru|)u«Bl, Oh' ('iiin|ii>iiy utlrrs 10 rcijnfo tli(| •iitmidv in immcy ami 
 liiiul II) the ufiiouiil ii|iporlli.iii'ii tu llii- intiil 4fii) iiiili'*.' 
 
 That i>, tho first 1 lau«o iloos away wilh LaWo Superior 
 hoiuion, tho Rccond claiiso providei foi tlie bnililing of tin 
 fSniilt St. .Mario road, tlio third dauHO providtw that the 
 (iiiNornnioiil may give up tho building of tha liuo froni 
 I'.iliory'.s Bar lo I'cit .Moody, and tho fouilli t-octioii given 
 uji tho building of iiiiytliing Wont of .laspor llou(*o. Now, 
 Mr. fspoukor, it is tho policy of tho tiovcrntaont to luiild all 
 these HCOlioiirt ; it is the ]jloilged policy ut tho ( •ppositimi 10 
 wipe thoin out. Il is the pledirod policy of tho Uppo-ition. 
 Thoy cannot go back on their plidgcd pclicy. Il i,s in fact 
 u tiuidor for tho iiriiirio seilion of llio load, the priying 
 .-oction, tho oasio.-^l .■icciioii, the cbeapi st hocIioii, llu: nio.st 
 pr'illtaldo .section, tho hocliui that will lio built not only 
 incX])ensivoiy. but that will pay whenovor population comes 
 in, and populntion will fnllow tho buildint; of lie road. And 
 this whole .-.ehemi) whitdi w;is o-jti nsibl}' lo U'iminio tho 
 responsibility of budding .ind rnnniiig the nlioie lino from 
 liuko Nipinsing to thr I'ricilii. Oroim, is siinjily an impudent 
 oil'or to build tho ]ir.iiiio section, and to do it by means '•!' 
 political frieiiils, Avho, when thoy gt^l in jiowcr, will grant 
 j,lioni all llioy Wiint, and allow ihcni to conlino Ihoir o.'ccr 
 lions, lliflir rOKponsiliiliiics, and all tho liabilities foi- iho 
 Hiliire, to buiiding un eauy load aoros.* the |uairic,s, luid ho 
 coniiociing with llio Aruori<an sj-siein 01' railways, and 
 cirryiiig awny tho trade of tho NorihWosl b_, ^no or 
 inoro Anierii.iii ehiniiicls. In the utlor mill of tho gnat 
 poliev under which the Dominion ol t'anada has been 
 rieated, to the utter ruin ol' our hopes of l)ei;i;r a grcil 
 nalioii, and to tho ruin o! diir pro-pcct of 're"ing jiossessiiin 
 ol tho I'acilic trado, and cnnneclini; Asia with Knglaiid by a 
 r.iilway pas.sin:; tliroiigb ibodoniinioiis of Mngland. Il is a.s 
 easy as rolling oil a log lo run a ia:lw;iy acros.s tin prairies 
 and w irl; il ; biiMliis i.s nil ("ii'loavor foili pii\e this counlrv, 
 I 1 deprive Ontario, to deprive l^uebei-, 10 ilcprivo flu .Mm 
 lime Provinces of all coniici tion by railway wttli tlicNoiiii- 
 West. 
 
 Mr. ANIildN. Hear, Iio.ir. 
 
 Sir .lOllX A. MACIXJX/VLD. The bon. t;eiitlemii.n says 
 
 '• hoar, horn-." Yes | 1 am pfuud to s-ay that if our bcIiciuo in j)cuiBi*i»ivo but obligatory, nut merely a cuatracl bo'.woon 
 
parties liiit an oblif^atory stiitutory obligation, it bcoamo a 
 »Uitii((HT duty iiii]K)soil by rai'liamciit witb a paramount 
 power u|)i)n tbo iiiiliviihial, ami ii'lbat duty watt nil posed, il 
 could l)t> onroriod liy a innndamus, Tlial i^t '.ly Ktatomeni. 
 WuH, tho second L'liiMsio ol tbo cnulraci luado by u.s is f'ui- 
 lowed, word for wi>i>|, I inaj' say, oxcopt Ktrikintj out tlio 
 wordn " bereliy cinitnii'tcd lor "— l.oriiby toudorod tor, tiii'y 
 moan of coni.so. It jwovides tbat " Iho ('(iitractciis 
 iiiiincdiiilcly attor tliu organization of ibo L'onip&tiy, will 
 dopo.-iil witii tbo tiovornnioiil 81,000,(100 intasli or approved 
 Bt'ouiitios." Tlioi'o was an (ibligatiou wo wore told, tbat 
 tlioy " sliall " do it, tbat tboy tmist do it. Wbon I came U-> 
 the clause about buibtirif; tbe roaii, tbo woni ''sliall" 
 in tlic luiitract tbat wo inailo, is struck out and tbe word 
 "will" jiut in. 'I'bo parliamentary statutory obligation 
 to ])ay tbo ninney was loft, but wbon wo come to 
 Iho clause saying tbey shall build ibc road, tbo word 
 "shall" is Btruck out and tbo wonl "will" subsiitiited. 
 The word " will" is merely un expression ol intention, and 
 tbo onl3' conHcquence, ii this is earned out, is that tbo sub- 
 Hoqueiit ])art ot the contract will be inojicrative, because it 
 pays tbat on condition ot the promise, the (iovernment agree 
 to make ci.'riain payments. So it tbo jirarniso be not carried 
 out. tbu iiayoicnts will not bo made. If tbo word shall is 
 goiKi " shall deposit.' it is good fur "shall build," yet it is 
 left in tor tbe dejiosit and struck nut lor tlio road. There 
 must bo an object in that; that is a statutory ohligation 
 wliich imposes Unit duty wbicli the Ctovornmont of the day 
 cim force as it can force all duties thrown on I'arliamoiil on 
 the subject. I had forgotten a papor that is placed in my 
 hands to wbicii I shall call your atteiiLion. 1 .--poko about 
 the value ol tlie laud along the prairie section which, of 
 course, must bo of more value than tbe land wliich tlio 
 whole Syndicate would have to take for their additional 
 burden and tlicir additional responsibility along the whole 
 lino of railway. Wo will take tlio iJansuliaii section. Xow, 
 this is the statement based on tbo now prciposal. We will 
 valuft the laml grant for the prairie section at 81.00 an acre, 
 and that ovorybo<iy must admit is absurdly low — 
 
 Mr. MILLS. Hear, hear. 
 
 Sir JOHN A. MACDONALD. Yes, it is absurdly low 
 for the land laying twenty-lour milos on each side of the 
 prairie sect iou ; it iiuist bo worth more, when the railway is 
 built, than a dollar an acre. Tbe cash subsidy. '.'Ou miles at 
 (f733.33 ])er milo will bo ^t;,OoO,UO0, and the land grant, 
 10,000 per mile for 900 miles at 81 pur acre, will bo 
 811, 000,000, inaking ill all, for building tho prairie section, 
 atgl an acre, $15,1100,000. If you take tho lima at $ J an aero, 
 and that is far too low by the estimates of tbo hon. gcnlle- 
 inan opposite, the cash subsidy of tbe land grant at ?J an 
 acre will niidio in all «-'•!, 1100,(100. Value the land at S;i.l8 
 an aire iiiui il will oe woitb 8-8,6-0,000, making in all, ea.-b 
 and land, 835,2i!0,iMI0, un that for building tbo prairie section, 
 tbo cbeaji soctiin, the easy section, the >ection which can be 
 run at a prom— at 8 i an acre, they will get 8l7,;i;tf.rii |ier 
 mile , at tL' an aciv, lliey will get 8-T,3.5;i:il a milo, and Sif.lH 
 un acre they will got §,i!',lo3 a mile. And this ]iricc would 
 bo given hy hon. gentleiuen O]i])osito who say tbat that -ec- 
 tioii can be built at 8^,110 per milo. 
 
 Sir ALllKlii' J. .^.MLTii. Ili>w much would tbey get on 
 your proposition 'I 
 
 Sir.IOIIN A. MACDOXALl). Now, when tho Uoii!-o 
 was discussing the s;ib division ami subsidy-, it was alleged 
 that there was a disproiiortionate sum g von to Messrs. 
 Stoiiheii iV. Co., and this otfer wiis meant to make tho public 
 believe tbat tbe sum was e.\ce,isivo. 1 have sliown vou, 
 that believing as everybody must who looks at this o'tVer, 
 that It is only intended to biiiM tjin prairie section, the 
 whole thing will vary Irom 817,000 to 830,1100 per mile, 
 at cording to the various estimates |ier milo. Tliat is for the 
 prairio section aloiio, Tho reason wliy tbo sum was put 
 
 largo and full in tho original contract for the prairie section, 
 was because that section must bj built, first and speedily. 
 That is tbo portion that can only Ir( i>uilt first, and until that 
 is built the population which we believe will reaitily and 
 eagerly seek shelter and homes in dur North- West cannot 
 get there. It was ot the very greatest oonhei[uonco to tho 
 (iovcrnmont that this road should bo built at once. This 
 large subsidy was. theielore, given for Iho prairio section 
 as an inducemont for the contractors to jiush that road there 
 within three years, wliiidi tboy stated they wero quite 
 ready to do that, if they got tno contract rati tied by tho 
 1st ot' January, and tlo-y will build that as shortly after 
 that time as iiossible. It malces no ditb'roneo if tho security 
 is g.Mxi; if tho capital is in the hands ot gcntloraon 
 of honor and moans, it is of no conseiinonco where the money 
 is o.\j)endod. Tbo division is made lor tho imrposo of 
 burrjing up the l,Ot)0 miles across tho fertile prairies of the 
 Xorth-West, so as to enable tbe jiopulation to go in at once. 
 And, Sir, you must remember tbey can got no lands near 
 Ijako Superior nor in llritisli Columbia, which had boon 
 described by lion, gontlcraon opjiosito as valnoloss, that 
 Province being a "sou of mountains." Thoreforo all tho 
 land to be given is concentrated in tho prairie country, and • 
 we endeavor tolndiico them to build the road and ••vs many 
 branches as jiossib'.e by grants in that region. The groat 
 object was not only to have the lino running from oast to 
 west, but to assign tbe Company lands to be selected by tho 
 joint action of tbo (.iovernment anil themselves. To 
 encourage them to build branches, we give them a largo 
 and valuable allowance, so that that whole country may 
 not onlj- be opened up oast and west, but be penetrated by 
 herring-bone lines running northward and southward far 
 into the interior. 1 hear a voice behind mo saying that 
 they are to builil tbo Lake Suiierior section at the same 
 time. Wo took good care of that. I believe that tho men 
 who signed tho first contract are moii ot honOr and great 
 wealth, who cannot aiVord too loso their character, prostigo 
 and credit in the markets of tho world by breaking a con- 
 tiact. But we felt wo had no right lo lake their word for it, 
 and therefore stijiulated in the contract that tbe (lovernmont 
 commence from tho beginning of tbo ti'anadian Pacific line, 
 possibly at Oa'iandar Station, ami proceed vigorously arul 
 continuously, and in such a manner that tbe annual progress — 
 shall not securo completion at the ond of ten years but shall 
 be such as to show the tiovernment that the Lake Su|)orior 
 ivp.id could be finished in ten years. You must remember 
 that this is one conlmct, and not a separable contract, to 
 build tbe eastern or the woslern section. It is a contract to 
 build lK)tli, and if tho Company failed in perform- 
 ing their contract in carrying out their obligations 
 as to tho Lake Superior road, or tbo prairie road, 
 they have no rigjjt lo claim a subsidj' n land or money 
 because of having done so much work on ihoju'airio section. 
 If they fail on ono section, although they may have built 
 twice the number of niiiOS that tbey promised across tbo 
 prairie, and may have tinished them to our (borough satis- 
 iMCtion, when thoy come to demand tbe Ian 1 and the money, 
 if thev have not worked vigorously and continuously on tho 
 Lake iSn))erior section, achieving a rate of annual progrosH, 
 assuring us tbat it will be tinislied wilbin tho ])ro|icr time, 
 thon we shall saj' : '' Xo yon don't—you shall not have this 
 money i true, you have built (he prairio secdon, but you 
 bavo tailed at other parts of the road which must go on 
 jHtri jiasnu, and we will not give you a dolbir or an aero, 
 because, though 30U have done the I'uli amount on tho 
 prairies, you have ma<lo a failure to a great extent olso- 
 whorc." Li oribo- to make a great flourish on tho new 
 sections or (iroposals, the o|i]H)nents of the old scheino have 
 btruck out tho 15lh clause as follows; — 
 
 ''K(ir 20 yenrs fruiii die it.-itp lii'ivof, no linr 'of rntl\v;iy sljnll I'O 
 uulhOD/cJ liy Oie Doiuinion I'liiiiimif'Ml lo tic conslnuU'il .simuli uf tin; 
 CaaaUiaii l'ti>.'iiii; Kailwn^i Iruui anj i>uiul at ui' utsM tliti Cauailiau I'uciliu 
 
9 
 
 RAilwuy I'icopt oiiclj liiii^ M flmll nin Smiili West dv Im tin: Wr.^twnril of 
 S.nlli Weal; nor In williin fi(li!.'ii uiil.j u? I.;uilui!' 4!l Ami In lli" 
 I'Nliilili^hiiient urniii- ni>v friniiiii' in tin- Nuiili-WfHl Ti rriloni'S |iro- 
 % isiiiiis flmll In! nmclit I'oi continiiim.' mii'li pniliii.iiioii alli'i' uui'h csUiblisli- 
 lui'iit ii:itil the vx|iiralic>i: of llu- saiii |vrii)'l 
 
 Tiiiit wiiH n oliiiiso pui ill (loliliormoly I'm- '.In' ^iiiiio iviiboii 
 that wo n.skiKl Piii-li(ini<iit !■' liiiiM iho ('una liun I'm-iiic ill 
 (ill. Wo desire, t ho i oiinliy ilosiios, thiii ihc /iM'l. whi'ii 
 hiiilt, .'-lioiilii bo II ( 'iiiiiidi.'iji I'oaJ ; the iiuiiii I'hiiiiiioi ii>t' 
 Ciinmliiin tiufliv inr tho ciuiiaijc <)(' Mu' lioasiiro ami iraftlf 
 ol' (ho wosl to till '•oalMaiil ill •ni'^h vJaiiiiiia. .Si> I'ur as wu 
 t'liii, wo si, all iici allow ii hi hi' hiiill fur tiio hoiH'iii of tho 
 1'liitOi.l Stiit<«-i lino--. Why a train <luriiii)> iVoiu I iu> foot ol' 
 tliii Hooky MoimtaiiiM — ami 1 am i;liul lo iiiiow pcilia|.s oiio 
 tii'lhc' mo;i| fortilo, if iin! ihc ino-ii ii'i(ih) <i,-i;li.)ii, Ik.-, iliroi.'ii}' 
 III llu.' oasioru slo|).' of I ho. Hooky Momituiiin — \vi(a iVoiijhi 
 f'oiii Drili.'jh (."oiuiiiliia t'li- ihu oust, wo liosiio lo koo|i en 
 oui- own railroad as hiiij; u^ wo logiliiiialoly oaii. 
 Wo boh'cvo it will tttri_> lioi^jht us ( ln->a|ily ami >ai.-ly tlio 
 vvuiits ut tlio Oiiiintry rn liiii ly a-i iii/v Aiiioiiiaii railway. 
 Eut, Sir, wo liosiir to havo tlio iraiio kopt on oiii own 'itio 
 — ihin not Olio of I 111' iiaois that |ia-sof ovoi- ilio ('aiiadiai) 
 I'acitie U.iilwuy will run iiii tho IJniV'l Si^uos if wi- oaii 
 help it, but maj-. in toaJ, pas^- ihioiiijii mu own loimlry, 
 thut wo may Liiikl up Monliva', t^iiolKi , TtKonlo Halifax 
 ntid yi. John liy luoiuis of ono yruiu ('iitia'liaii lino, 
 earryin-;' as iniioh IratHo its iio.^sililo hy the course oftrailo 
 through our own country. I do i.ol iiionii lo say wo can 
 inovoiil ciioapor tliHiinols bcinj,' opoiuvi. Thoro i-< iioihiiit; 
 to provoiii other railroads lauiniiiji; across iho ■■ontiiionl 
 througli our own ooumry. <.)iir T'oudnioii is as big as all 
 Huropc, and wc niii;ht as wcii say tha; iho railwaj-.-* niiii.iii^- 
 from I'aris lo Jlo.-'cow iniichl .--iipply tho wauls ol ail 
 Kiii'opoas thai this railway iiviifhl siijiply tho vvaiiS ol' ll'.o 
 whole Nfuih-Wo^l 'J'lioro will lio room f'or as nun y 
 lailwuvs in thai ooiinlry liy-und-hyo as ihoio arc in Hurop', 
 and it'',horo bo any attoniiit — tho altompl woulu Ijo till do — . 
 on tho part of iho (.'aiiadiaii I'aciiic Kailway to imp.i^i ] 
 ex'cosKii, prices imd riitos. it ■•• folly that would soon lui 
 o.YjiOsud liy ;hoconstiuo!ioii of rival line.-. ea-C and wosl.wlili h 
 would o|>on up our counliy in all diroitums aud pi:!\i' 
 amply siitficu'nl u> provoni tl\c pi'ssibiiity of a uionop'dy 
 wUioli has boon inaao sindi a bifjboar of by hon. jjcutlouien 
 opposite. [ was i^-oini; to say that a train >tarlinj; fioni ;tio 
 foot of iho Hooky MouiiUiins. ini.L;-ht ub;ain ooiiiie<ti,ii;s 
 by a line runninu' throu'^h oi a soulli . a--;i riy 
 dilv--lioii with i-o::.U in iho toiUd .S'.ilo-. 
 
 The hon. i;outlomaii s'ly-. it is only Co;- :^o yoar^ ; bii. i wa-. 
 goiii^ lo say. Ihi'l a (rain siartiiig Inimihcldol of! ho loiok_v 
 Atounlains, laighl bo bled by a lino lioni any southeil) 
 diroolion oounoiUHi wilii tho United --tate', and so mirh 
 traffic Will bo cai'riod otV to tho I'liilod .'^lales, and a lew 
 inilo^ further anoihei lino might coniioot with iinoilioi- 
 American lino, and .so on, f^ii-, until lonu' boloifwo go; \, 
 AViiiuijiog or Hod Hivor ilio iii.-iin poi'.iou oi tlio im-.U- would 
 bo ciuj-iod otf tVoiu our line into Amoiicaii • hnnirds. 'I'liui 
 liiagiiilicont river, iho Kiiino, starling with p:'ido from ii-' 
 source, runs l.liroiigli liio unosl po, tion- ,if ' uiMpe. and Vet 
 lia-s 11 mir^erable, wrolchod end. iioing lo-i !ii ih. -^aiioN ds il 
 approachoh the soa; and .-.iich would bo the lalo oi Uio 
 Canadiaii i'aciliti Hailway it' v/o aHi.'Wcd il lo lo bod by 
 Biibsidlary linos, leoding ibreigii railways. , id ling lo loieigii 
 woaltli ,ind incroasihg Idio^gn rovonue by cai:ying o'l our 
 trade until, bot'ore woairiveii al the terminal poinis in < 'iiuirio, 
 and at .Monti-eal, il wi'uld bo so doplolod thai il wo,iidainio>t 
 die of in:iiii!ii.ui. .No men in llioir senses would uiidortak' lo 
 build the bji) milo- tlirough that i»tern conutiy to tiio north 
 of Lake Superior and run it for ten long yours, when lliey 
 knew that iinlos,- lliere was fouio chock placed up 'ii tho-o 
 linos, not a pound of I'leiglit would ..'O lo the Noi ihAVosI iiiit 
 it would almost all go lo llu! rmiod •■lutes. .Some ol it 
 would come lo us, bill ihe greiil po.tion of i,ho irad'' wouM 
 go throuuh the United Hihuw bv (he liivored lino ol bou. 
 
 giniiem..iii oppini.. . wilhoiil m\\ hope ol' gelling it- hack lo 
 i.iii:l.lii at .^i.aii .-"l.. .Marc. Mi wo know whiU .i great 
 umoiiiii, wha', an I'liorinou-. a'.ioiini of eapilal .Vmeri.-ai 
 capii.'disls po-i~e-.s who iiie loiineolol wiih the raih\a\sot' 
 tie IJnil 'o iSlaios, Wo have seen ooidonccs of tin- iiiitd 
 rivalry which lia.s oxistod oocu-ionnlly hotwcoii some 
 gioai railway liiie,-> of iliat (■oiiriti3-. Wo have -eon 
 them liui railways at riiiuous laios, in tho hope 
 of breaking each oihc r down. Sii with our roiiil, 
 backed by » '■(•iinliy ■! ■•(aioiOy 4.ii":..,0iM), with our inlhni 
 oouniry and with uuriniiud eapilal stw, what < banco-; would 
 they liavt against the whole of Iho Unite 1 Ntaie.- capilidi-.t.'- i* 
 Wi.ai chance would ihoy havo'i* 'i'lu- .\mei leans w«uild oiler 
 
 10 curry frciglr \\<i- no.hmg, anl avo lo jiay .■-hi|lIlol•^ liir 
 sending IVoighl Ihal way li wouid not all come by ."Saiili 
 .Sto. .Marie. It would come t.i iMiluih. Il would coiiio to 
 (hicago. i( would come iliioii,li a hiindrod dilVoronl 
 channels, li would |)orc/laio Ib.oiigh llie I'nilod ^^l.iles. in 
 Ts'ew Vork and liovton. and !•■ he other |)orts. and, ^^^ir after 
 our railway wan piovixl lo be usoc.'->, Ihey loiglil, poibaps, 
 come into ihc niarkcl and I'Uy up our line !u-< Ihey have 
 boughl U|) other line-. Kadwas and lolegr.-iph lines are 
 under no jirolootiMn ..dia fon-iiii oa|)ilali.--ts coming in and 
 buying lliem up. gelling eoii'rol of our marki'ts, and culling 
 i;s otV from Ibo irade which .-hoiild ciimo fiom iho groa' 
 We-1 and by ('aiuuliaii railwiiys io iho Hivor.il. l.awre.K'e. 
 I'liey could ailord Ibr a soiie-- ol years with I heir enormous 
 wealth with ilioir eiioinious capital, e.iceeding the rovenui' 
 of many, iniiiiy li■s|-ela^N 'iovoriimciil> in liuiojie, to pul 
 ihoir rales lor fioigh: down to >ucli a liguro lis wouid ruin 
 our load. 11.- would ruin ihe eontraciors, as would ruin the 
 
 ' oiupaiiy. and render ihem iitiorly impossible to continue in 
 coiiipi'liiioii. and, .■^ir, whal can be more wretched, or nMre 
 mi-erablc. in jiny country, ihan an insolvent railway. 
 Whal could bo mo:e wiclelnil .ind misoiubleand deslinclivo 
 to llie I'uiii.o of ttcoiintiy than the oilonng on ihe niai kel of 
 the ^iock of iiisoheiLl railway-.' I'liey cannot supjilN, tiny 
 e^mnol ''Wiow- llin rails, iV y e.iimot ir.iiintid; ;.ha roiul-b ^1 in 
 repaii, l;ie._s cannot i.eep ihe line -iippliod with railway stock. 
 t>ii, ihe loud would liee'inc shrunken, shrunken, .-ihrunkeii 
 iriiil il fell an ea.'-y priy lo Ibi- nil.:. He cannot all'ord lo 
 I'lin such a ri>k. We saw what a vvlioat ring diil in t.'hicago. 
 'J'lie,\ laisod 1 lie priro of ;lic reci'-.suiies ol' life.-ilu ring ui 
 i.'l.icago raise. i I'le pricv .i| Ji,' jn,iu miin'.< fjal'for a wiiolo 
 year in oidov lo make .i prolii al lio- expense ol the lubormg 
 jiooj' of iaiiopc, alio ol' all iho re-,; of tho workl, aod a 
 similar cuiiii-iiiaiioii, but iiil'.niioiy i icl.cr, with inlinilely 
 111" e rapital, loul mliuiuly iiii'iv an.-ci iipulous — and no 
 hioii ,iro >•! l;n^•■l Ujiuioiis ,iii I so re.ckic,---, and are pro,cn lo 
 I'o -o iiii,-cr:'p'i'OiH aisi veclclc.is, a-^ the railway -poculalors 
 ,iiiil proprioLoi- iti (he Uniled Stales — viaild be four I in 
 ;hi> ca-e. ■Sir, ii *■ r~ o...-ciili.diy as .-i maUer (d procaiuion, 
 ,i iiialie'- ..1 neoe-dly, and a inaltoi- ..i| Si Ibdofonce. thai wo 
 )ii r.i.li-.i lb,!;, (Ill- r '11 1 sli.iiilil not bo icplelcd ol it.s iralllc 
 111 ibe iiiauner \i liicli I liiuo montioned. Thai roan ^liall 
 be :t!lowcil lair pias lor twoiiiy _\ o.ir.i I'roni now, .lud only 
 t-ii . u!s li'fer coiisi I iiclr ■!> , i. ad ilia! i! sl-.Duld b'' pvolecled 
 Iroiii il'o cliai CO ol liei!!!.'. i' li.iio i of all the pr.itii-. ;obbed of 
 
 11 II.' g:i : . ilic i.:;i' iiiaU- g'a'n wliieh Ihc ''"iiipany 
 ...prci- lo !fel iroin id- eiilcrpi'i-«e, aiui Ihe employ- 
 . i,-i.t oi ilieir capii.li. Thi-i w.is ionc o;,ly ' > prolod ihem 
 iMf iho liifl ion yoiii'.-- of their infant Iralllc. We know 
 pi-p 1 'i.y w\l!, it wi'ij lake naiiy years beloi'e that loiiimy 
 
 - lill..i'np Willi a largo |ft)|'Ulalioii, and liio lir,-l leu years 
 wil' be inosi iinproliirtbie , We know perfectly well llial il 
 udi ic')uii c.'iil Iho exi'ilio;., iiid all lln> :-kill, aim all tie- 
 uiinasiomiiii of iho I'onijiany lo inaiio the ea.ileiti ainJ 
 w,_-tere irlfiii.s ol III .i ;oad full)' e>mpe;i>ale iheili, .tiM 
 liiii ly e.iinpeii ale ihciii for ihoil- ro-.poii-ib;iiiy , and i'-i 
 llieii oNpcnd, lire during these ten ycai- In .M^ler lo give 
 .luiiu .1 ibance. we have provide, I ilial Uie Itiilnniion 
 I'ailiui ie:i! -mind y..'l t iio DoniuMiu I' n li'iiic-iil ; iVi''.'iioioL 
 
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 clicrl; aiij iithor Pui-liainont; wo cannot check ^Jniaiio, wo 
 taniioiclieck Muiiitobfi— hl.iiU for tho flrttl ten yeiivs afloi- 
 tho construclioM of tho nxnl, givo their mvii roa<l into which 
 thoy mo putting so much ivioiiuy and so niiich huul, a (iiir 
 chance of exislunc.o. Tiio very fact, Sir, that tiiOHe gentle- 
 men aro willinu; to ,'ilr'kc tliat bargain, and tlio very f':ict 
 that thoy arc willing l.( liavo tlu'li- road Iniilt ho, shows that 
 tliojdi not mean to i-iin the line eaxt of Uwl Kivcr. Thoj' 
 can wnH .-ilVord, Mi'. Si'oakor, to allow railways to 
 run into the prairio line. Any lailway as, a local 
 colonizn'ion line, as a lino lo HU[»|/ly the- warts of Ihe 
 countr}' lying alont; the line ironi eai>l lo wi'st, 
 the local Iratlic, and the trade which tiio roiwl will obtain 
 from Jasper Ilou^e to Red RiV(^!-, will be amply Hiifficient to 
 keep it up, and Ihirelorc. these f,'eiilloincu can well ad'onl 
 lo my : ■' We do liot want aiiy -Mch oxompiionr'." Bui, Mr. 
 Npoakei, if ihey aro gointr li; Imiid tho load to the north of 
 Lake Sujicrior — iftheymeun! to di> '! — and nni it for ton 
 yearn liuy ^•hl)llld not alli'.v that road to lie u.-elcns, actiuilly 
 u-elesM ill iheii' handx, !>ecau.'-c iU" trattic would bo all lolibcd 
 and depleted long before their li'adc or a pound of trade 
 could <iv^s the Red liivor to ran through Canadnm 
 leri'itoiy. Sir, thiM is one of the many ovidencortof thi^ 
 inniimcrablo evidence:*, patent on the I'aee of the .-iuivml 
 con;ra<'t, s^hiiwinj; that it ir) not a honii title Ciinlract, and il 
 irt n' t a liOHufule and hoinijit oflerto build itie road ihrough 
 Canadian territory ; but that it is an otler lo build a mad which 
 ia to carry out the deidaiod policy of bon. j<enileinen sitting 
 on the op))0.site Bide of the llou.se. It i intended for that 
 })ur))O80, and that purpose onl^'. The ne.\t clause, .Mr. 
 Speaker, is tho sixteenth 
 
 An Hor,. MJvM liEK. Six o'clock. 
 
 Sir JOHN A. MACDONALD. Ido not ibink it will do to 
 divide my remarks, and coniinence a,i,'ain lo morrow. I 
 shall have an oppoi'tunity of siieiikin;,' agrdn 1 have r.o 
 don It. I niaysay, liowevr. 8ir, thai my hon. iViond o!>i">-i''> 
 jimulatiNi indiijnation vwv weii,— iw he ' "^.ysdoeti — wiieii 
 f IBiv. wt lliai'iiie Ordoi'r* <if me ?<:._, ^..'■.x vif 15 t**c ''yT; ,• 
 »ion of Ibis subject. Ho apjiouleJ lo the EouHe und to the 
 coui.trv lo witnoHN tho wicke<lncs.s of nur course. It was 
 well done, Sir, but is was rather signiticant, bceaiiso tho 
 hon. gentleman had given us fair notice when we were in 
 Comniitlce, that he intended to -peak at full longih on tho 
 subject when you were in the chair. We did not desire to 
 do anything, but lo give every latitude toi discussion, viod 
 knows wo have given every latitude for diHCussion. l^iit 
 
 wo wanted to^'et mi, T knewpertectly well that when you 
 woro in the e.hair the dit-cussioii would be renewed, and all 
 we wanted was not lo be losing time. Wo woro never sr.olj 
 (uoIh as lo sup))o o that tho second otler Wou!d not 
 come bcfuro tho House. Any him. member could 
 bring it up. Tho jiariies thoinselvos could jirehent 
 poiitions sotting forth I hat thoj' hatl miwle tlie offoi-. Wo 
 wante-l to go on with the discussion. 1 appeal to the mem- 
 I«:rs of this House a« men who '.re fpat.iiotSj'as men who 
 have the deulinies of theii- countiy in their hands, not^to be 
 hoixlwinked, not to bo fooled, not to, bo lixl away by 'a dis- 
 ingenuous and discreditable trick. I know wo can appeal to 
 our countrynion ; I know wo can ajipeal tci the patiiotism 
 of the ptjopio of Oanada. We can tell them that wo want a 
 line that will cionneet Halifax with he Pacific Ocean. We 
 can loll thom, oven from tho mouth of c)ur enemies, that out 
 of our lands wo can pay off every single farthing, evei'y 
 cent taken lait of tho pocKots of ihe ])eople, twenly-tbid, and 
 we will have a gi-eat I'acitic Kailway. This is what wo will 
 have. T.ot me draw a contrast I You are askeil lo have a 
 raiiwaj- running ti-ora tho TInited Slates and to Ihe United 
 States. You are' asked lo have a lino by which the trade 
 than thb east will run into tho Slates, and by which tho 
 legitimate pi-otits of the fjal;e Superior ro.ad will bo 
 dcsti'o^cd. You are a.sked to ha%'e a line by which the trade 
 fiom the West will run into tho States, Mr. Speaker, the 
 whole thing is an attempt lo destroy tho Pacific lt;iilway. 1 
 can trnst t^^ the intelligence of this House, and the patriot- 
 ism 01 this country, I can trust not only to tho patriotism 
 but to tho common benso c,f this countiy to carry out an 
 anniigcrnent which will give us all we want, which will 
 i-atisfy all the b/val legilimalo aspiraiions which will give 
 u- a great, an uriilo.l, a i icli, »iQ improving, a developing 
 Cai'iul'i, instead of in:. king us liibutarv to American laws, 
 lo .Vmoricnn riilways, to Amorie.an bondage, to Amerieaw 
 toils, lo Amei ieiin 'Voightft, Uj all the littlo tricl<s and big 
 tricks that Amoi-ienii r;iilvi-.;ys uie ..dtil'C oJ to tor the 
 ,.u. )/.,-,•(" deKlr,>j-i :y oMJi' ', ,•'' Lv i'- on thia pic . ^i an(' 
 then on that fliid 1 know which choieo wiil be made by 
 the people ol Canad.a. And; Sii, I believe before tho geneial 
 oleciions in i.S8;i, hon. gentlemen o])posito will U'v to make 
 the people forget, will try to make iho peoj^lc disreinember, 
 t.i use a weslerii plira.se, this publican plot, and will cat their 
 own words bel'oro tlie people as they aro Irying Lo do now 
 with regaiiJ lo tho National Policy — an i in doing so they 
 ■.vill lo^o the respect of the jioople of Canada. 
 
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