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MIDDLErON\ Vindication O F H I S CONDUCT on board hl^ Majesty's Ship the FURNACE, WHEN Seni m Search o( 2l North-weft Pajfage^ BY Hudso^'s-Ba Y, to the Weftern American OCEAN.i Humbly Infcribed to the Right Honourable thfe Lords Commissionirs ^ for executing theO/fice of Lord High Admi r al \,>5i of Great-Britain and Ireland^ &c, ^ BY CHRISTOPHER MJDDLETON, Efq, L O N D O N: • 174 4 / <;"• .• T- * .* ^-m r o T . ) i \ n •■\T ^ ■ » \i > ^ 1 vdi ' .,,r,v:rT .T Lords C.omm i s&jp j>jers L O R D H I.G H ADM fR A £' Great^ritain2^ Ireland. &c. * *- ■ \ "^^ r' 1 .' »; « ■ My fcoRDs 1 ■ V .- J> > OUR Lord/hip liavw^ ho- noured me with yaur Conj- Jmiflion to attempt, the Dif- ,,--.-^ jf a Paffage to the Wefterh ,^«^r/»« Ocean, J)y, Hud/^^i^fim^ upon the ProbabUity of fuch k p£ % ; and my Condua in thp /aid Voyage having been qucftionea by Mr, Doih (the Piojeaor of kl Accu- fations were brought againft me to your Lord/hip, % that Gentleman; who not fatisfied ivith my Anfwers, iias, by a fecond Attack in Print, en- deavoured to lofe me in your Lord- Jhips go6d Opinion, and ruin my Cha- rader with my Fellow-Subjeas. To whom then could I addrefs the following A 2 SliPftc »«■*"*- fcV^ Sheets, but to jomt' Lordjhips, who' are my unmediate Judges, ^d^ufTd" ther acquit me from, or indelibly fiJ ^n methe Smin of the vileft andS corrupt Treachery and Ingratitude. •■'I cannot doubt your Lordjhips Pa- bencc m ginng me a fair H4iig. I am thoroughly fktisfied that, on wtigh- «^ the Evidence and Reafons on bSth Sides, ycm Lordjhips will pronounce with impartial Juftice j and hope, till C^nfr^^ "7 ^^Strengthof my Antagomft s Proo/s and the Weakni ^ my Defence, that your Lordjhips ^^^ me the Honour to fubfcribe y:/-^.^t^ur Lordships Moji Oiedient, Mofi Devotedy and Obliged Servant^ Chriftopher Middleton. ■ / M rd/hifs, wfio' > «nd muft ei- inddibly £xj ilcftahcTmoftl gratitude. ^ordjhips Pa- 1 Hearing. I ; t> on weigh- fons on both ' pronounce I d hope, till 'ngth of my e Weaknefs' '"^Lord/hips to fubfcribc ^i and Servant^ liddleton. PREFACE. S every particular Member of the Sociery, muft receive (bmc Benefit by Advantages accmcing xo, or fu- ftain fome Lofs or Inconvenicncy by the Misfortunes which may ftU upon, his Country i 'tis no Wonder, if thinking Men arc anxious to procure the foriher to, and avert the latter from, the Public*: And doub^ Icfs, as this is incumbent on every Individual, who has the Good of his Nation at Heart (alone neglefted by the Indolent and Thought- Icfs) ewy Scheme offered to aMiniftry, with thisyj/p View of National Intereft,' ought to be received as the Effcd of public Spiritj tho* the projedor, ignorant, of the fecrct Springs which give Motion to the grand Machint of Government, fliould have been miftakctt, and built upon a wrong, or weak Houndf- tion, and his Scheme for that rcafon lain afide. X ^ What is offered with the above View, Is fo far from being impofcd, that it is ever Icfi to the Judgment of our Superiors, who be- ing fcatcd at the Helm^ ordering and dired- ing the Courfe of the political Bark, muft, confequently, be better able to judge what (and in what times) is nioft conducive to the public Good, than cart any Particular : Which confidercd, none^ ought to be difcontented, if a Government does not pay a Deference to, ^r fall in with, his private Scniimchta. "PREFACE. Oh^hc other Hand, aProjcft rtfay \St of- fered, appircntly found ^d^n ludi Probability, and fupportcd by fuch plauHblc Rcafons, as may induce a Minitlry to take it into fcrious Gonfidci:ation 5 and, a'^cr having maturely weighed the Inconvenicncics on the one Hand, and pofljbrc ^nd probable Advantages on the other, and finding the latter Scale confidcr- ably preponderate, refolvc to profccutc what appeared to them fo very great an Advantage to their Country, if it anfwcrs in the Expe- riment: Efpccially, when the Expence and Ha- zard arc inconfiderable, compared with the jpublic Benefit, which they were induced to hope, by the Probability of what was offered. tut in cafe Experience proves the Impof- fibility of iuccecding, by Inconveniencies and t)ang€rs, which could not be forcfeen; and could be only difcovered by fuch Experience j yet, both the ProjeftoB and Minifters, are fo iu from being liable to public Cenfure, that they defervc public Thanks, for attempting the Good of their Country, wherever there were folid Rcafons to hope it. And neither th^ one nor the other will tax a People with Ingratitude, by apprehending public Reproach, for not being more than Men. » ,Now this latter, was in a great Meafurethc 'Cafe of Mr. ^ohbs : By his reading the Ac- counts of former Attempts to find a North Weft raifagc to the Wefiern American Oceaii, and the Probability he imagined from the Situation, tl;c Tides, ifc^ of fuch a Paflage being yet to be diftovciied (which muft neceiTarily be a ^^. "* very '' \St of- babillty, fons, as > fcrious nature )y le Hand, ; on the x>n(idcr- ite what ivantagc ic Expe- and Ha- ^^ith the tiiccd to offered. 1 Iftipof- icics and en; an4 >erience$ s, are (b lire, that :empting ^er there I neither pie with eproach, afure the the Ac- rrhWeft :ah, and ituation, leing ycc tily be a very ¥ Ji E F J C E. vtt v^ry great publi(; Advantage, ^ is too obvif ousto mention, wcr^ fuch l^aflfagc tp be founds and navigable) laid bis Though^^ before their Lordfhips of the ^dwiralfyt and gave fuelpi plaufibk Rcafons for the ProbabiUty of wha^ he sidvanced, that after long and m^twre Delir beration, their LordQiips determined, with two Ships, to attempt fti^l^Difcovery. Avery in* confidergble Expcn^pd,. if weighed ^ainft thjC wany Advantages whiph muft h^yp accrued fp the Nation, had Swecefs crow«e4 |bc f nt^i- prjze. I was rccomn^cndcd for, and induced to accept, the Compiand of thefe Ships ^ an(|, in Hopes of being ferviceable to my Coun- try, and at the fwc time to my Family, tfor I own, I ani not public-fpifited enough to expofc the latter to Want, for the empty Honour of having bfien ufcful to tb? former) left a good Employ, in which I had been long fcttjejj by whkh I was enable4 to pro- vide comfortably for my Children, ^nd which my Employers were unwilling I ftould give up, to proceed upon *''' •df private iLrS^'a d Z^S t '"'" hr"fdV^t"j^^4^^^-<^^ Hudf^t A?^ r ^^ ^''^^^^ n^adc by the .^&^.h^^, LToTi'Lt "''"•^^''^ fiis lmagiha*y PaffaL Z„ '"'1?^ '""««* ment employed me, to difcorer. To S„rf h.s Agents I have reafon to fuppofc S^ his own Words, were to vtocmlwu n°" ■fo fupport the Charge; TwHe L^i *""' brought over a third ^an'd "c? poor ^ Ma^ .nSdS'rhad'r T7 -"-'-- ;Tr„th. B« this'^inlVrtttifi^l ^ overthrow the impenetrab.fBu tark SutL" /Which IS a plain Relation of Matters of F^' th?f^?h- 'T ""1?"'"^' Eviden T wtref that of his three Wirnefle^t ic k^^n^^ ni^ ' contrary in many Hace^ ,'"''" ^^'"'' ^"^ / "lany naccs, to even a Pollibi- JitV 1 E. icaft Ccn- »c Jntcrcft upon this iai Diffcr- r. *DoHsi of their his own ) difcuJp the Stain n^7 pre- ^ would = by the 'd'voured realized Ncgled svhohad ving rc- jovern- this End ", from Jtncilcs, 1, wJk> kMan, c, Gon- led for of the y*s En- niizes, '\'^s to Iruth, f Fad icreas, t, and Jilibi- Jitv i - --J j- T K E F A t E. lityj of which the following Sheets contain fcvcral irrefragable Proofs, and plainly mani- fcft the Art and Induftry vainly ufed by Mr; ^obbs to make good the heavy Charge againft itic, by adding what he thought conducive to that End 5 by giving in Suppofitions of mine :a5 my own Sentiments, and thence drawing his Conclufionsj by concealing what he thought ncceffary; by changing doubtful Opinions to pofitive J[|ndcncc 5 and by wrefting and ftrain- ing what is Equivocal to the Senfe he would have it bear> ire ■This Charge is fupportcd beyond all Con- tradidion in the following Reply to that Gen- tleman's Retndrki upon my Yindicatiom and I hope I have, to a Demonftration, proved in thcfe Sheets, that Mr. "Dobbs has ventured out of his Depthin his Rcafoning upon Tides, e^r. in which he is as contradidory to that Dodrinc, as his Witncfl'cs are to thcmfelvcs, to one another, to Truth, Probability, or even Poffibility. . . I require only the Patience of impartial Readers, to wipe off all the Dirt which, fop the Rcafons already mentioned, Mr. ^obbs- -has thrown upon me. . ,.^u^^^a ^ I ought here to make an Apology for my not being Methodical ; but I was obliged to follow my Antagonift, Paragraph by Paragraph! and his Book is not digcftcd under proper an4 regular Heads. If 1 have any where, inadvertently, let drop a warm Expreifion, I hope the Public will cxcufc mc, when convinced of the Injufticc done ^ ^ ^ e f .^ C- E. dWfr jne. by tWs viriilcnt Attack «f M., ms., j/l, Th^t be h?s given me C„L L bd«vc, that h* well knowvthe Acc^W brought againft me, arc entirely frounSf ^nsuagc much more cxcufaW^,*JX|S^ be fpar^d to°.tte^Tto;2at SeST 1 cviaejce on both Sides, and am fo coufdous of my Integrity, tha: I (hall wait, without S^ Icaa Apprehenfion, the Sente.n« ofTc LS of the Aimiralfy, and that ot the fet r cannot doubt the Patience of the fo^Jie; as their Juft.ce makes it incumbent; Jnthm Sef/n e'?nd^r ""^'^ >%«) to hear m^ or^t «' ?!^ accordingly to condemn or ao- P^*' ""y Condua. I cannot queftion the Im- ^S^M "'' ''""' f^"-" 'he Genius of the Eni/^ Nation, naturally abhorrent from whatever carries the leaft Refemblance of D? msenuity, or an unfair Procedure Capt. Jlf/Z)- « hwifcif fwo Rc4f C\ufc to ^undlpA I > fypport ollowing Prejudice me with 'lUnfgatc polite : of injr ^cious to tions, I d up the lout the ^ Lords mer, as 1 them lear my or ap- thclm- ! of the from Df Dif- C^^tMIDDLErOJSl's A N S WE R 1* o TheR EMARKs on his Vindication 07 Arthur Dobbs, Efq; A p not Mr. Dohbs obliged me to vin. tack d m a manner not at all bccomine his own, the WorJd would notZ! w^-,^ been troubled with the A?f<.r^o»; 5 two Perte neither of whomTconfldS^^^^^^^^^^^ to engage the Attention of the Public ^ J hat Gentleman has endeavoured to enforce a R. licf of what he advances b>' a pj^dljfl • Knowledge. I (hall not difpute c?ht h/?'"^' C|ty or Learning, thcf I can^ ^ no met SS; him a competent Judge of Tournals TirW A '^ orjea Affairs = 4iler doT^ k' ^^^0^:^' % i Letters. . -" * luiuii njs JSnoranrf in ,^*' ""y '^^y^ »"« *>« Reputation a, a Ma^ ^f 3 That That Gentleman has certainly met with a great Difappointment in the Mifcarriagc of his darlina w •* u u' L*"]^'^' fi ^"^ "^P«^ °^ convincing the thcPubhc in a great Expencc, I attribute bo§i his Anger to me, and the Calculations he has puWifhed. which are indeed no other than lb much Dull thrown m the Eyes of his Readers. Ifhall be very far from retorting 'the indecent Language, with which he has treated me, through- out his Book. I fliall behave to him with an equal Kegard to both his, an4 my own Char^aer ; where- fore. I amijnwilling ^o believe hjm capable of palm- ing upon the Public an Invention of his owVfor Truth ; and for this Reafon I attribute his Account of our firft Acquaintancfc to a Failure of his Memory, and this I afcribe to his Difappointment and Paffion, Qt which I am the unhappy Obje(5l. ^ 1 ^^^^c^ t ^^^ ^"°"S^ ^^'^ a deliberate Recol- leaioii (rf^Fads, I hope he will confider the Impoffi- bihty of my having firft made an Application to him, to obtain the Command of a King's Ship, fince he n^ft acknowledge, that tiH May 1735, 1 had not ?he Honour to be known to him j confequenthy was a Stranger to his Projeft of finding a Paffage by Hud- ion% % to rki^South Sea. Hence it is evident, and indeed Mr. Dobhs fays it in cxprefs'd Terms, Page 8, that, befougbi my Ace thought ; my Ve- thar Mr. overy of a here to be or Writ- I'ernor of •i having my hav- d on the Jent, if I ompany's t, befides the Pro- le at my ity of all e was fo f refufing ?nd feme Though ( f ) couid poffiWy ineerfere wK S A "r iwy. or that any further Difcoverr^ a PiC« Wound could any ways affeft J^ds atead;^" covered or prove injurious to my Employee. If what I have already faid. is no? of Weight fuffiaent to procure me Credit with the Publi? I hope what Mr D.W, himfelf has written, wWbe thought a good Voucher of the Truth I foT te a^d o wCpnt?,' "''"i!"°"''y '"<«8''t after me , Letter m f ' ^ '^'■"^ '^ W°'''' '° J"''2e. HiJ Pa^SapT"'^'' ^3- ^m. contains di fdlowing f . ^ ■ ■ \» . your Return from Churchill River, in /forf/Ja*. " ?&ruf;r^S''^" ¥' London, but ,«., fApi;rnd.T -^ """' '"J""-', ^^ his Letter and^idlu'pi "^J?""'"'""*''^ '" ^^Bibyel^] ana aiKed his Permiffion to anfwer it i uDon ohr-ii* .ns of which. I wrote to Mr. D^k. Sin ftt whff'lnfc '^ '""'/° ™"'^"''' ^'""^ *<= Company what Informations I might fend him •. he himfelf bving before that time told me that he foundThey trifled with him. For the Truth of which I appe-J from angry Mr. Dobbs, to Mr. Dohbs when his K fon .snot difturbed^by P.ffion , but that I W^ .ttle Hopes to exp.a w.i, b. till he is convinced rf the ImpivaicaWliiy of difcovering a Paffa^" . «^ t.ii men. i apprehend the very Mention of°it 'wiii produce unhappy and violent Effc^js, ^i The m ( ^ ) The Reafon of my having required Secrefv, \% this ; I had Grounds to believe that my complying with the Promife which I had given Mr. Do^s woirid be no ways obliging the Company, they would be as well pleafed, if no farther Mention wL made of that Affair ; and on the other hand, I had engaged my Word to that Gentleman, and was there- fore under this Dilemma, cither to aft contrary ta the Inclinations of my Employers, or to break my Word, to which every honeft Man will have a ten- der Kegard. Had I defigned, in a clandeftine Man-^ ner, to injure the Company, I fhould hardly have been weak enough to have Ihewn Mr. Dohhfs Letter, told the Offers made me, and the Terms I infifted on, to Sir Biby^i, who thought the latter not exorbitant 5 and had I not thought my felf under an Obligation to keep my Word? given to Mr Dobbs, as I believed then and ftill do, that the Difcovcry of a Paflage can no way hurt the Company's Intereft, I Ihould have dropt the Cor- rnK'5-r\r^^''S''' tobejuftto my Promife and not difobhge my Employers, I gave Mr. Dobhs a Handle, which he has made ufc of, how gene- roudy, kt the World judge, to tax me with betray- ing the Company. He appeals to my Letter, N <> 8 in his Appendix, to fupport this Charge. When that worthy Gentleman is lefs difturbed with Anger than he feems to have been when he wrote, he will think that Appeal noway to his Credit ; it ihews I thov^ht him a Man of Honour, but truuibb'tted by his Paffion, he is refolved to give the World a con- ""'"ivT^n ''^^. ^^^"^ ' ^"^ ^ ^^^y '^ J«^%« Cf Men. Mr. Dohhis fo very immcrfiodical iniiis Remarks upon my Defence, with which lie im obliged the Public, that could I perfuade myfelf he could cooly jnention the Difcovery of a Paffage, I Ihould be apt to think his Ramblings and Repetitions in thar P«m. phiet, the hit^^ of Art to puzzle and deter me from ecrefy, is omplying Ir. Dobbs ly, they ntion was id, I had vas there- •ntrary ta )reak my ve a ten- ine Man* dJy have , Dobh/s md the light the Jght my d, given da, that hurt the :hc Cor- Promife fr. Dobbs )w genc- i bctray- V N<> 8. When 1 Anger he will Ihews J Med by d a con- Men, lemarks ged the d cooly i be apt It Pam* eter me from ( 7 > from attempting a Reply. And indecdto anfwerhin> methodically is almdl impoflible without tiring the Reader as well as my fclf ; for he has brought noi lefs than fix and twenty fcuttercd Heads of Accuf*- tions againft me. viz, hcsnjijieneies, NegUa^ Eva- fans. Ignorance, jirtifice. Folly, Coutradiaions, Cor- ruption, Sneering, Falfiiiet, jibfurdiiies, Fcdftficationr of FaSii, Coneealmeuts, FiSlians, Reiramon, Tamper^ ing with mm£es, wilful Omlfton, playing double, Im- pofition on the Public, Fdacy,falfe Reafoning, Forgery. Cant,Roguery, Frauds, Incoberencies, Cruelfy,^ndamnl contrary to Inftrumons. A lefs angry or lefs artful Gentleman, would have abridged thefe and thrown out the Contradidions and fynonymous Terms vifible in this heavy Charge : To fupport which, he, through Forgetfulnefs, denies Fads ; lays great Strefson the Evidence of three Perfons, to whom he acknowledges his having made tempting OfFcra to injure mc j upon Letters which I wrote,.he knows^and wjU appear on Hcar-Ciy ; upon his own Word^ con, trary to Affidavits. Farther, he raxes Men of a Cha, rafter with Evafions, palliating and Perjury ; builds upon his ownSurmizesand Affertions, tho* groundkiL and from both draws his Conclufions ; relies upon an imperfea: Loggi gives Hear-fay for Evidence,' whiek no Court will allow: Lean& upon exploded Accounts^ Fiaions, chimerical Defciiptions, imaginary Openr ings, and felacious Rcafoning, ^c. i^c, i^c. Alfthis I hope to prove in the Courfe of thefe Papers, and if fo, his heavy Charge againft me falls to the Ground. . y The Inconfiftency he charges me wich in Page loth, I have already evinced, both from Probabir lity, and fnam my having acquainted Sir Bihye Lake (as I already faidj lies at his Door ; and his Rea- foning upon it, which he appeals to the Public, idle difingenuous, or the Conlequence of his Detcdt o*f """ /f "5'' Dsiicvc. As to his Proof froiu Appendix to his Remarks, II fl Letter B It \m Wk ill . ( 8 ) It vifibly corroborates what I have already faid In the firft Paragraph, I hint to him a Mediod to be fatiaficd whether the Company were really defirous of profecuting a Difcovery, he having before inti- mated that they triHed with him. If his Sufpicion was well grounded, 'twas natural for me both to confi- der what Reafons they might have to be avcrfe froni making farther Starch after a Paflagc to the Weftern American Ocean by Hudfirf^ Bay, and to be upon my Guard not to difobJige them. The Rea. Ions which occurred to me are in the Sequel. If his Sufpicion was groundlcfs, my Caution could not turn to my Difad vantage, In the fecond Paragraph of the fame Letter, I fay, •' For my own Part, I confcfs I fhould be ambitious of attaining the Honour of fuch a Difcovery, and fhould hope much that Succefs would crown the Undertaking •| But as I have a certain Income from the Com- pany as Jong as I am able to go that Voyage, it would not be prudent in me to quit their Em- ployment upon an Uncertainty \ and if they fhould come to the Knowledge of my having any Intention of accepting fuch an OfFer, I have too much Reafon to apprehend they would immedi- ately difcard me •, fo that what I now write, be- ing unknown to them, I rely on your Honour, will not be divulged to my Prejudice. In fhorr, I believe the Company think it their Intereft ra- ther to prevent than to forward new Difcoveries ! '? that Part of the World ; and for that Reafon • they will not fuffer any of our Journals to be ♦' made Public," ^ This Paragraph confirms what I have before aver- red, that I infifted on Terms j and, my fo doing, js a Demonftration that Mr. Dohbs had made nie i'ropofals to quit the Company's Service ; for he who loIlCItS nn Fmnlnw ur^io T U^V. i . . /'.'• '^'"•^' '* «^4i?vc, never ivnown to impoip his Qwn Terms, ■ \m\ cc f( c< cc cc cc cc • c cc cc .,. ( 9 ) _ I ftall hereafter confidcr what he fays as to falfd Tides, Jifr. Page ii. and don't queQion by the Tour- nals, 6ff. convincing Mr. Dobbs hmMf, if he can hear Reafon upon this Subjeft. that he is nor, as I have already (aid, a competent Judge ofthefe ^ This Gentleman very politely informs the World.' Jat what I have advanced in the firft Paragraph. Page 5 of my Vindication is all falfe. Does he cin! fider what he wrjtes ? Have I not evinced the Truth of what I fay m that Page, by quoting his own Book. Page 8. where he farther fays, " I uefired Mr! :^lla7i, a Merchant jn the City, a Friend of mine, to enquire where he, (viz. I) might be found and finding the Coffee-houfe he fnrquenred was a Coffee.houfe in rhames-ftreet near Bilifjzfzate, I " went with Mr. Allan and met him there." At the Bottom of Page 9. he teJls us, he thought that h6 afted in Concert with the Company, yet as he feems to have dandeftincly endeavoured to proaire from me Informations, by employing his Friend Mr. Man to find me out, and did not, (which was the readied way) enquire for me of the Company, one would be apt to judge, he really did not then think as he now fays, that he afted in Concert with them j and in- deed we fhall be farther confirmed in that Opinion, if we look back to Page 5. where he plainly fhews he was not ilu.sfied with the Converfirion he there relates between him and Capt. Joms Deputy Gover- nor of the Company, He feems to think his AppH- cation to them would be fruitlefs, and therefore thought of applying to fome of the Company's Cap, tains trading in the Bay ; but this is digreffing, fn the firft Line, Page 10. he owns hedefired I would communicate to him all the Information I could get m my Voyage ; and then fays he faw me once or twice more bdore I went on mv Vova^e NT^- a^ not thele Particulars I have mentioned^ and Part of i\ii Letter before quoted, fuppnrc what 1 have ad- vanced I.: m'h :l - ( 10 ) vanced, and he civilly tells the World is all falfe. And does not his acknowledging that on my afking if he would go himfelf? He anfwered, ifhe wa$ younger, ^c, he believed he fliould, evince an Ear- neftnefs for the Difcovcry, which confirms the Truth of (as I fay) his having made (Irong Application to me. Page 1 1. Paragraph 2. he charges me with advancing what is both fal(e and abfurd, and in Page 12. flatly denies that he ever made me alluring Pro« mifes. I have already anfwered the Charge, and I hope fufficiently proved his Negation falfe. Mr. Dobbs acknowledges. Page 12. that he had the Modellbg of my Inftrudlions, and that he was a very improper Hand, fince all his Knowledge, as he himfelf fays, was from Fox and Scroggs^ he hav-. ing at that time no Notice of Openings near H^hdt Cove^ or Marble JJland. As to the former, their Accounts had been exploded by later Obfervations, and both by my felf and OiBcers, as I have already iHewn in my Defence. As to the latter, viz, the Openings, Qc, I believe neither he, nor any one elfc knows any thing of them •, they are pure Invent tions ; confequently, neither Lovegrove nor any other could ever give the Information he fays they did. As to my Lieutenant, he could make no fuch Dif- covery, fince the greateft Part of the time he was afhore at Marble Jfland, was at Nighi, and from on Board, it is not likely he fhould, having been aloft but once, * and that only as high as the Main Yard during the whole Voyage. The Mafter was afhorc a whole Day, the Gunner part of a Day, and the j^4an, who with the Mafter, went farther up the Ri^ yer Wager^ and was widi him two Nights and two Days, together with the Indians^ could rind none of thefe Openings, and difcovered only a Bay. Upon this very Man Mr. Dobbs lays great Strefs, and deems tnm. a material W itnefs. I join with that Gentleman * Vid. Appendix, Anfwers to Q^S. by Donal/on^ &c. ; . in m (II) In his Opinion, for he was both the bed, the moft adlivc, more to be depended upon, than any one Seaman in either Ship, and almoft always in the Boat: But it happens unfortunatdy, that he is quite Ignorant * of the Lieutenant's fancied Openings at Marhle Ifland, IVager River, &c. Whence 'tis evident that neither Jjovegrove nor the Lieutenant, could give the Information with which Mr. Dobb$ charges me, and I averr they never mentioned one Word of It while on board ; I cannot believe they even thought of any fuch till after our Return. It is certain the Lands appeared as fet down in the Re- fult of the Council held at Cape Frigid, the Sdi of Auguji\ and as certain that we fcarch'd all that Coaft according to the Refolution then taken. Tho* we found fome Idands, we could difcover no Inleti or Openings which could anfwer the Dcfign we wer^ upon. ° If Mr. t>ohh*s Refentment on his being difap* pointed, was not too prevalent for his Reafon, hp would not tax me with not complying with, or fol- lowing my Inftruftions, viz. To advife with my Officers, and at the fame Time, and in the very fame Paragraph, give a Proof of the contrary -, for what elfe can he term the Refolution taken in Coun- cil at Cape Frigid? We did not, indeed, fearch this Coaft outward bound, but very narrowly, asrefolved in the faid Council, upon our Return. The former VIZ, not fearching, ^c. which he thinlcs a Nec^Iedt' was m Compliance with my Inftrudlions f, which ordered me to lofe no Time, but to proceed to Lat. 65°. Before \ attempted any Difcovery, for the Truth of the latter, I referr to the JournaU. Loggs, &c. t J t ♦ Vid. Appendix. G«/s Affidavit. t Vid. my Inftrudlions in my Vindication. $ Vid. Lieutenants Journal "in the Navy Office iiilvver m Appendix to queries, in my Vindiution. Mafter*8 Mr. i ' mi\\. It m 4- ( i» ) ' Mr. Do^^i, kts mc know in Page ii and 13. that I had the Misfortune to be fufpcdled by him, for want of Integrity from the Informations he had re- ceived s and a few Lines after he is convinced that I had been guilty of Concealments, wilful Negleft, Falfifying o\ Faifls, Invention, and Tampering with Witnefles, who alfo have fallen under his Diljplea- fure, and are taxed by him, with evading and pal- Jiating. His Informations were from the Lieutenant, Surgeon, and Clerk. What Credit thefe Perfons can dcfcrve, I leave the Public to judge from irre- fragable Fadls, which they oblige mc to produce. As to the heavy complicated Charge contained in ihofe Pages, it wiH go off in Smoak upon Exami- nation of Inftruftions, Orders, Reports, Councils, Journals, Tranfadions, during, and Evidence of Men employed in, the Voyage, figned both by the Officers and others. For part of thefe, I muft re- ferr to my printed Defence, and the reft will be found in the Appendix to thefe Slieets. Mr. Dohbs fays. Page 14. that my Anfwer to him was abfolutely falfe and evafive, 6ff. This we have on his own Word only : For my former Let- ters which he fays that Anfwer contradidls, will prove that it was neither the one nor the other, they are printed in my Defence ; the Lieutenant's, Sur- geon's, and Clerk's Anfwer, whatever they were, will I am fatisfied, be thought of no Weight when their Chara(5lerr are once knowii, w! ich is contrary with my Inclination to mc'' "/:•.., and I am forry, they oblige me by FaiSls to expofe them. That the faid Anfwer of mine to Mr. Dobbins Letter, is contrary to what the Mafter owned before the Ad- m-nlty ; is an AfTertion unfupported. .^Ir Dobbs in his third Paragraph of the fame A a g", roundly charges me with Falfity in Regard to Mr. Samuel Smith, and denies the faid Smilb having been his Agent : I avcrr it is no Falfity ; and will leal (i id 13. t\\At ' him, for he had re* MPced that I Neglca:, ering with is Diljplea' ; and pal- iieutenant, fe Perfons from irrc* produce, ntained in n Exami- Coiincils, idence of )th by the muft re- \ will be ■• .'-14 ■ Lnfwer to This we mer Lct- idls, will her, they fit's, Sur- ley were, Weight witch is /it;, and Dfe them, 's Letter, :the Ad- the fame cgard to h having ( I? ) fcal it with my Oath, that he, Mr. Samuet Smitb^ did importune me, as I have declar'd m Page 10. of my Defence. Now what may induce any im* partial Man to give my Affcrtion Preference to Mr. Samuel Smiths Negation, ts the Defign which Mr. Dobbs has avowed of laying open the Hudfon*s Bay Trade, the fetting afide the Charter, of that Com- pany, and the Views which he himfclf difcovers in the Coii^lufion of his Book to engage the Govern^ 01'' It in a fecond Attempt for the Difcovery of 9 Paflage *. If Mr. Smith was not Mr. Dobbs*s Agent, and I miftaken in giving him that Ap- pellation, I hope I may be excufed, as it pro- ceeds from my not being a good Judge of Men and Things i I had it from his own Mouth, and 1 be- lieved him J had he not told me this, yet my con- cluding that he was Agent to Mr. Dobhs^ from his copying the Hudforfs Bay Charter (which I have by me) his defiring me to write to bim in London^ and that he would tranfmit my Letters to Mr. Dobbs^ his taking from me and fending to that Gentleman after my Arrival my Journal and Chart-, an Ac- knowledgment of which, is in Mr. Bobbs Letter from D/i^/w, dated, f December 14, 1742. and from his Letter, dated, Li/burn^ January 22, 1742-3, which begins thus: *» In my laft to Samuel Smithy *' I inclofed one to Lord '- open for your Peru- fnl." If from thefe Circumftances, I fay, I igno* rantly concluded Mr. Samuel Smith was Agent to Mr. Dobbs ^ certainly a Gentleman lefs tranlportcd by his Faflion would have been good natured enough to have excufed the Miftake in Confideration of my Weaknefs. What regards me in the fourth Paragraph of Page 14. of Mr. Dobbs Remarks, will be anfwcr- cd by jbadts, proving how little Credit that Gcn- * Vid. laft Paragraph before his P. S. in his Remarks. t Vid. my Vindicition, p. 138, 1 ji. tie man's Uh III ill 1 1 i n tlemari's WitnefTcs deferve from the Public, the ft(^ of it is not worth Notice. Yet if the Reader will take the Trouble to examine the Affidavit and Reports, &c, in the Appendix, he will find Mr. Dobl/s has been too light of Belief Page 1 6. is aDetail of what I have already refuted, and a Repetition of an Abfurd ridiculous Charge of a 5000 /. Bribe, which I an- fwered in my Vindication, and fully proved that it deferves no gentler Terms. With regard to the Account he gives of his In* terview and Converfation with Mr. P^ilfoK the Matter, Page 17, 18, 19, we only have Mr, Dobbs Word, which is contradicted by Mr. fyiljbn^s Oath*. Now whether it is more reafonable to truft to Mr. Dobbs's Memory, who wrote down what the Matter faid (after he had left him) which makes one and fifty Lines in Print ; or to what a Man of Charader deliberately fwears. and was heard by a great Part of a Veffcl's Crew, as is affirmed in that Oath, is left to the Decifion of the Reader, who I am of Opi- nion, if unbyafled, will believe the Offers of Ad- vantage on one hand, and the Menaces of Ruin on the other, affirm'd in the faid Affidavit, could not be without die Direftion and Authority of fome Perfon of much greater Weight, than either ^omp- fin or H^tgate, I (hall obfervc by the bye, that one of the Lieutenant's Reafons for not going higher up the River, was, that his Provifions were Ipent ; yet had they kill'd two Deer weighing about one hun- dred fifty Pound each. Now three hundred Weight of Meat for nine Men, at three Pound per Day, will ferve them eleven Days. I am very ready to acknowledge, that upon In- formation from Mr. James Smith, of the Matter's u«;:Eig Wilts i.yxi, j^uvvi^ tiiut 1 tuok. him to my Lodg- ing in a Coach, as he was not able to walk, and ad- * Vid. Affidavit and Reports in my Vindication. vifcd (If) vifcd him to be cautious in what he faid or wrote ; for I (hould be obliged to appeal to his Journals, C^c. given under his Hand, which would be deemed authentic Evidence againft him, Ihould he deviate from the Trudi. The fame Caution I gave my Lieutenant i if this is tampering with, or tutoring of, Witnefs, I own the Guilt. If Mr. fTtlfon faid he would be the Ruin of no Man, but fooner beg his Bread, he fpoke like an honeft one j and as to his denying before the Lords of the Admiralty Fart ot what he had owned to Mr. Dobk, fuppofe it granted, is i: not poffible that his Memory might have failed him, and is it not allowable upon a Re- colledion to retraft and acknowledge an Error? But who can fay here was any, and If there was, why may not Mr. Dobbs miftake (who I have fliewn has not the mod retentive Memory) as well as the Matter : Befide we have only Mr. Dobbfs Word for this F^a. All that he can make out in this la- boured Paragraph is, that the Matter atted like a Man of Frudence and Frobity, in referring to hk Journal and Report, and not trufting to his Memo^ ry ; for which Mr. Dobbs taxes him with Falfchood» and concludes with a moft ungentlemanlike Sur- mifc, which he would not be guilty of, had not this unhappy Affair of a Difcovery had fome Effeft upon his Reafon. With regard to the three Bottles of Water brought down by my Order ; when I tatted them, I thought and declared that they were alike, as Mr. Gill who was all the Voyage in my Cabin can teftify : As can alfo Mr. Lanricks, a Friend of Mr. Dobbs, a Gentleman of unblemiihed Character. The former of thefe was recommended to me by Mr, ^llan, and wrote moft of my Accounts. Both of thefe Gentlemen went out Midlhipmen with Captain /^»^- Sepmbtr 1743, furprized at the Treatment they heard U ; m if' \ S i mi 'ii heafd I hiirf met with from Mr. Dohhs*^ cxprcfled their Concern in a Letter to me from Sheernefs, in which they Aiy, ** We arc hearfiJy forry you Ihould " meet with fiich Treatment for your Services ta " yoiur Country, as we lire perfeftJy well aflured **' that your circumfije(a: Care, and Vigilance, did •• not at all merit fuch a Return ; we can impute' ^* it to tiothing but the malicious Suggeftions of " thofc t^o vi^orft of Men, Wigate and Itbomp- " fin, Sec." Mr. Dobh, p£tge 20. fcorns to enter into a Jufti-^ fication of his A 61 ions ; fays I fpeafc very inconfift- ently about my Clerk, and that the Accufations I have brought againft himfelf, are the Cobwebbs of my own Brain without Proof. But I think the Mafters Afiidavit refutes this Charge, and I IhaU make it apparent in the Sequel, that I have brought againft him nothing but adlua! Fa6ts. As to the In- conliftency, with regard to the Clerk -, what I ad- vanced is no more than what he declared to others ftfter he came home, as a Rcafon for his late Con- dudb ; nay, he has farther declared fince he .has become a Witnefs againft me, that he nevef went a Voyage but he made fbme body pay him one hundred Pound extraordinary. Mr. Dobbs, in the fame Paragraph, affirms that my Affidavit Meri fwear nothing to my Purpofe, all very indetermi* nately, moft by hear-fay •, and to Fads, either with- out or beyond their Knowledge j or without Proof of their Aflertions, where they either were not pre* fent, or were not capable of judging of Fails, Cur- rents, ^c. I fhall in the Sequel f evince that he has here given a juft Idea of his own Creatures. I do not know that any of thefe latter were prefent once in the whole Voyage, at trying the Currents, or fo f Vid. Mr. Df^ildeh Account in the Appendix. much mucli as knew what a Tide or Current meant, though I have endeavoured to teach the Lieutenant, CJerk, and Surgeon, both the Tides and many other things^ at leaft a hundred Times in that Voyage, but found it to no Purpofe. In the SequeJ I ihaU refute this boJ4 Affirmation That what is fworn 19 nothing to the Pur^ pofe, ^c. In the fame Paragraph Mr. Ddbs fecma to exult, and to give a Reafon why he difdains to enter into a Juftification of his Anions ; for, fays he, if J can (hew his Defence made up of FaJfities, , C^f. then all this grand Accufation will fall to the Ground with its Author : But if, as I hope to do, I fliall prov-c by irrefragable Teftimonies, this Charge of Falfity, (^c. may much more jultly be brought againft that public fpirited Gentleman, will not the World ba apt to conjedture, that his great Zeal for the good of his Country, is a little tin(5lured with Sdf-intereft, and that his Anger to me is the Effcd of his t>e/ng difappointed in his private Views ? Page 21. of his Remarks, he fays, that my Quotation of Mr, Lanrick's Letters, is no Way ma- terial in my Defence. It would be good-natur'd in Mr. Bohhs, if he would fuffcr his Readers to judga for themfelves. The Letters are in Page 149, 150, and 151 of my Vindication: The iirfl, indeed* with Relation to me, is only a Teftimony of my FJumanity, and the Regard 1 had fhewn to Mr, Dohbs*s Friend : The fecond, an Evidence of my Vigilance ; he fays, if his Word may be taken, and I believe none who know him will doubt his Veraci- ty, that there was no Probability of a Paffage inta the Weftern Ocean -, that the Sea was frozen into a folid Body for near 20 Leagues to S. E. that the Tide of Flood came from the fame Point ; and in his laft Paragraph of this Letter, (hews in what miferable Condition our Ship's Crew then was : thefe nothing material when Mr. Dobbs charges with wilful Negled, and averrs, nay pretends to prove, that 1 had a fafficient Number of able C Hands? a are II :1j m\ (i8) Hands? Suppofe Mr. Lanrick's Letter to Mr. Dohht, wasi in a Manner a Tranfcript of mine, which J deny, or that it had been revifed by me ; can any one be- lieve a young Gentleman of Probity, one who is a pepcndant on Mr. Dobbs^ and was recommended to me by him, would fct his Hand to any thing but Matter of Faa:. ^ Mr. Dobbs would have it believed, that the Ice was juft breaking up when we entered the River ff^a^er •, though what Mr. Lanrick wrote is indcter- minate : The Ice was breaking up at a Branch of W'a^ey River (which I named Dear Sound) when our Boat firft went up. As to my defiring that young Gentleman to fay nothing for fomc little Time re- lating to the Difcovery, it is no more than what 1 reauired of everyone elfe who was in the Voyage*, »nd in Confequence of that Duty and Refpe^:, I ought to pay to the Lords of the Admiralty, by laying before them the firft Accounts of all that re- lated to the Voyage in which they had done me the Honour to employ me. The Letter mentioned in Page 21, faid to be written by Jxx -|- the Gunner, and a Duplicate fent to one of the Lords of the Admiralty, is of doubtful Credit 5 and feems to me that the faid Jxx was cnfnar'd by the Clerk -, this however cannot make againft, but for my frozen Straits by opening another PafTage for my Tides and Whales to come through, which Mr. Dobbs was not aware of, for with much Labour he has given them a double Paf- fage i confequently, this is not full againft my Tides, and Whales coming through from the JtlaNtic Ocean as it is reafonable to believe. He feems in this Paragraph to lament that the Men who ftaycd with the Boat, were not to be had, neither indeed could the Evidence of the Man who was with the Maftcr above the high Bluff ht gotten i * Vid. Appendix, Mr. Deivilde'?, Account. t Vid. p. 144, 145, Mr. Dohb\ Remarks. N( thefc ( ip ) thrfe were asMr D.W. fays the moft material Wit- neffes as to the chief Fads. I am glad he admits thV latter, who was alfo with the IWafter up#Wr River to beof fuch Confequence in the prefentDifpute* ,„ P'r*^"* ^'"■•\e"P''' Page 22- Mr. BoUs refers to the Lieutenant's, Surgeon and Clerk's,. Anfwers ^d to the Council Signed by me at O^^-S W|th Regard to his ftrift Tide, I have fuffiS anfwered h.m in my Vindication, the Li7u3 I in his Journal contradifts his Anfwer given to Query I 'o, the Surgeon and Clerk are no Judges of xbes : »»d the Council I f.gned at C.;>,-4^rm1keV no! hold t^Z"uT^"^^!^'- ^'^'" ^""i" ™ i''yi"g. Manufi:rinr r '^"■'T '''= """""^ between' tht Manufcnpt Copy and my printed Defences in he former I fay I had feen Whales 20 or 30 L^gue" up the Straits, but in the latter 50 or^lo ;TS «rta.nly ,„ .he Right and 1 am not in the Wmng* for the Difference is owing to the Error of the PrefT- however Captain Spurril, on his Return from hi laft Voyage told me that in the Year ,72? he had feen a great Number both of Young and Old Whales as high as Cape-Diggs, which is ,30 L^gS^^s up Nece^vof r '^P^"'^ '^ T^'^'' are'under^; r^ eceffity of riling to blow ; or that they do not often a^ Sn^d?"" ""'°" ^PPcaringf orthat they" ,J explain write ic ot again :ve none ieutenanc ty of an ; on the '• 24' in he great le; now written ieutenanc ely after by Mr. a great ^e to the f or the )penings lieve, a )f them, they be he Pub* lOpen- (2f ) ings, both on the Eaft and Weft fide, which runabout two or three Miles into the Lands, as is common oil all fuch high Coafts •, theft when the Ice is gone which cannot be above a Week or two in a Year may be fit to harbour Ships, but will never afford' us a PalTagc to the Wcftern American Ocean. Mr. Dohh fays that I would mfinuate there was a Fall of frcih Water; in anfwcr to this, I refer my Reader to the Af- fidavit of Rtcbard Guy*-, to the Report already menti- oned, made by the Lieutenant and Mafter; and to the Anfwer given into the Admiralty to the fecond Query. Mr. mh m the fame and the foregoing Page, after having fhewn his great Reading, which no one calls m Queftion, again taxes me with Fallacy and Eyafion ; and tells the Public there is no River fa wide or deep, as I have made JVager River, in er- ther W^« or i^^rze;^;, , But the great Confidence irfi T^a 1 '' ^^?°"^'^ Relations, has here led hin> nto a Miftake ; for I praftically know and averr that there are feveral between Drunm and Barman. and between that and Malflream, near Holly^afant I and a fo, not far from Stockholm in Swedet Hi* Knowledge is from Accounts and Maps, mine froni my own Obfervations ; wherefore it would be fur- prizing, that a Genrieman who thinks fo iuftly, and Q ^r"T '?. ^ ^^f^^ ^"^ ^ ^^^y 8r^« Share of S-nfe, fhould pubhfh a Map of Countries he never fa w, and but lately heard off, I mean that off North' Ainertca, an Infant of his own Imagination, if his Rtmarks had not proved how dire an Effed a Dif. covery of a Paffage to the South Sea has had upon his Reafon. In Anfwer to his Shrubs and Tree* ' growing m more Northerly Climates, I will admit they do, but 'tis not from thence to be inferred that they grow upon the Northern Parts of the Coaft of fi^^^fon 5 Bav, for Reafons I have given in the Vid. the Appendix _ • PublUhed by Robinfwi given this, and to my Vindication. ex;- m traordinarf I I I h i \i I (26) tfaordinary EfFcfts of Cold in the Philofophical Tranlkctions, N°. 465, and reprinted. Page 199 in my Vindication. Mr. Dobbs thinks he has good fecafon to cftecm Norton's Account an Invention of my own } indeed it may be fet upon a Level with the Paflage about fFagfr River, and Btook Cobban, of which he has re- ceived Information from the two public fpiritcd Gen- tlemen his Friends ; for I have fince found that Nor^ /o«'s Tides ^nd theirs are much the fame. To fpeak the Truth, there can be no depending on the Ac- counts given by Land Men of Sea Affairs : Though I think Mr. Norton defervcs our Credit, in Relation to what he has heard in a Series of Years from many different Indians, coming to, and trading With, the Factory -, as 'tis well known he was pefiefl Mailer t>f their refpeftive Languages. ^ It is very poffible, and 1 believe that Mr. Norton did fet out about the Time mentioned by Mr. Dobbs, Page 25. bf his Remarks; But of this, neither he nor I can be certain ; and 1 believe no body elk caii fix the Time, except the Company. But this I avcrr, that he has Very often told me, and not long fince, that he went from the Fadlory in the Fall of the leaf, which Was fometime in u^u^nfl, and paddled along the Shore in a Carioc, with a Northern Jmiak Man, and a Girl, for the Space of fourteen Days, before they quitted the Canoe ; and travelled after- wards Inland to the Northward of the Weft, about ten or twelve Days, and then met with the Northern Indians, Or fome of them. Now could they be four- teen Days in paddling but twenty Leagues, frorh Churchill the Latitude of 60°, which is but one De- gree ? Twenty Miles a Day in a Canoe, \s efteemed butcafy Labour for him who paddles. Lee us fup- ^ {)ofe they went but fifteen Miles in twenty four Hour^, | one Day widi another; this gives two hundred "^ and ten Miles in the Space of Time mentioned, which are hilofophical Page 199 in to cftecm vn } indeed flage about ;h he has re- pirited Gen- d that Nor^ To fpeak on the Ac- s : Though in Relation from many g With, the ed Mailer Mr. Norton Mr. Dobbs, neither he dy t\k caii his I averr* long fince, ^all of the nd paddled icrn Imian teen Days, elled afcer- eft, about i Northern iy be four- 2;iies, frorh It one De- is efleemed Lee us fup- 3ur Hour^, ) hundred ledj which arc Are 3° 3c/, and makes the Latitude 62^ 30' j am! Mr. Dobbs'^ great Sweep to the Southward of the Weft an Jnconfiftency. Had they landed but twenty Leagues from Cburcbilly and been obliged to make a great Sweep to the Southward, they had better have let out by Land at firft, than to have gone in a Cnnoe, fincc their Sweep to the Southward, was coming back again. But Mr. Dobbs has this Ac- count from one who never in his Life- time was * 50 Miles from the Fadlory, unlefs it was going be- tween Cbunhiil and Tork Fort ; if ever he did that. Mr. Dobbs would make us believe he was a great Traveller to the Northward. As to Mr. Norton^ my Antagonift has not feen him thefe 14 Years, and is as much in the Dark with regard to thefe Northern Parts, as the other Gentleman from whom he has had fuch material Intelligence ; indeed this Southerh Sweep tallies very well with the other Accounts they have given him. From all the Accounts I could get, and I have made the ftrifteft Enquiry, the Northern Indian Na- tions live between the Lat. of e^" and 64°. The moft particular Account I ever had, was after I came home from my laft Voyage, and this was from the Indian Linguift, whom I had then with me, and at my Lodgings after my Return, till about Chrifimas, 1 742, when he died. He had been feve- ral Winters and Summers among them, and faid they were never lefs than three Weeks or 2 1 Nights, which is their way of reckoning, in coming to the the Factory ; but were much longer in going backf. As near as he could make it out, their Country lies inaflrait Line with the Sun's letting in Summer * Mr. Fro/. + The Reafon of this DlfK-'r-nrp nf t;™- :. .v^* : -.-- ._ !u!.^?°'>'' ^^'^ ^^y '' ^^02:en» but the Ice broken up when they return. (from H' '! If I Hi; (28) (from CburcUU) which muft be about N. W. Now admit thcfe Indians travelled but 20 Miles in 24 Hours, which to them is nodiing when the Ground is frozen, this would make 421 Miles, and that Diftance N. W. will give near 5'> of I.at. which added to that of Churchill^ places thefe Northern i». dians in Lat. 64° North -, this agrees with all the Accounts I have heard * and with what Scroggs^ Indian faid. See his Account in Whalebone Bay \ from whence they defired him to let them return home, as then being not above three or four Day's Journey from their own Country f. Now how can this agree with, nay, does it not flatly contradift, Mr. Bohh^ great Sweep to the Soudiward of the Weft from die Lat. of 60° North. I all along underftood, and do yet believe, that Mr. JV<7r/e« continued that Winter and one Summer with thcfe Northern Indians^ and returned the Win- ter following, after having travelled throughout their Country, to engage as many as pofllbly he could, to come down and trade ; and if this was the Cafe, he might very well have obferved the Sun's going round feveral Days together, and the imputed Blunder fells to the Ground. The accurate Account Mr. Dohbs has given us, Pages 25, 26. he fays was from the Information of Mr. Froft, many Years Linguift in the Service of the Company ; that this fame Perfon travelled a great way Northward oi Churchill, and had informed him that near the Shore to the Northward, the Trees were fmall and low ; that within Land, there was nodiing but Mofs for 50 or 60 Miles, bur beyond that the Indians told them there were large Woods. After which this Gentleman refers to the Surgeon's Account, in hisAppendix, and to the Clerk's, N« 40. t Vid. Mr. 2>*^^#'s Remarks, Page 115. m < Mr. lUi . W. Now Miles in 24 the Ground :s, and that I.ar. which Northern In^ :s with all hat Scro^gs^ lebone Bay \ hem return four Day's 3w how can contradidl, yard of the lelieve, that nc Summer :d the Win- ighout their e could, to le Cafe, he ;oing round Hunder falls s given us, )rmation of rvice of the led a great brmed him the Trees , there was bur beyond ge Woods. I Surgeon's I's, N« 40. ( 29) Mr. Dohhi\ eager Defire of a Second Expedition to difcover his imaginary Paflagc, at the Expcncc of the Public, either makes him impofe upon them, as he has done in the above Account in Prejudice of the Truth, or has prevailed on him to credit Ac- counts given by Men, of whofe Veracity he had not previoufly been fatisfied. He has here built on a Narative, which h'J tells us he had from Mr. Froji \ liow proper a Man he was to afford Mr. Dohh any iifeful Light, I leave to the Judgment of the Public j for I aver he never was fifty Miles to the North- ward of Churchill Fadory j and when I wintered in that place, 1722, he was the Governor's Cook •, he fjnce, moft ot his Time, has been at Moofe River, the fouthermoft Fadory in the Bay -, and as I have been informed, could make a Ihift to underftand the Southern Indians^ but neither for. Froft nor any- other Ertgli/h Subjed, or Southern Indian^ that wc know of, ever underftood a Word of the Northern Indian Language, except Mr. hiorton^ John But* ler, and d\e Indian Linguift, before mentioned. Tho* we have had fome of the Northern Indians for Years about the Faftory, yet none belonging to it couW ever learn any thing from them, nor in- deed can the Language be attained but by convcrf- ing with them when young, as did the three above- mentioned ; how great then mufl: the Surgeon's Modcfty be, who fays he had that Account from thefe Northern Indians, to which Mr. Dobbs refers* Had he been as many Years among them as he had been Days, I fear he would not have been Mafter enough of the Language to publifh a Di(5tionary f j yet this Gentleman learnt it, as we may gather from his own Words, in fix Weeks, nay, in much lefg Time i for he never had fecn any of thefe Indians Out ^r' '^'^ ^""^ °^^* "^^^^''^ ingcniow aod entertaining above H •I it, met ( 30 ) above a Week or a Fortnight before we failed from Churchill^ yet he had made fuch a Progrefs, that he could underfrand all they faid, and was able to learn from them, that we were going part the Copper Mine two or three Days after we left that Faftory. The idle Story of a Copper Mine, comes from the Accounts we have had ever fince I knew the Coun- try ; and by thofe Accounts we are informed, that thefe Northern Indians arc two Sumn^ers travelling Northwards from their own Country, before they reach it : Apretty Journey, indeed, if we confider the Rate they travel, commonly 30 or 40 Miles a Day. I am obliged to fay that this whole Report, made by the Surgeon and Clerk, is mere Fiftion, I refer to it as Mr. Dobbs himfelf does *. Every Officer and Seaman on board the two Ships, deny their having ever heard a Word of what thofe two Gentlemen reported during the Voyage, or even of fome Months after we were returned home. As toMr, £///joftheVidlualing.Office, mentioned in the faid Report, referred to in Page 147 of the Re- marks, that Gentleman has denieti in rhe Prefence of feveral of the faid Office, his ever having heard me fay I could be a Dire^or of the Hudfonh Bay Company whenever I pleafed. Mr. Dobbs, Page 26, Teems very unwilling to ad- mit the Teftimony of the Journals and Logg- Books t, of either the Furmce or the Difcovery Pinky which have been delivered into the Admiralty and Navy-Office long fince 5 but he will have an imper- fe(5l Logg Book, which he printed, after its having been Months in his own Pofllffion, deemed good Evidence. I am obliged here, in my own Defence, to tax Mr. Dobbs with Difingenuity j for what he * Vid. Appendix to his Remarks, N° 40, t Thefe were al! copied by the very Perfons whom Mr. Deih hid recommended to go the Voyage. calls failed from 'fs, that he Die to Icarn he Copper ,t Fadlory. 1 from the ' the Coun- rmed, that 1 travelling lefore they ^e confider o Miles a le Report, Fiftion, I two Ships, what thofe &a ( 31 ) calls the Lieutenant's firft Report, is in fa6t his laft, and altered to ferve that Gentleman's Purpofc ; for in the firft, the Probability of any Opening, I repeat it, is faid to be on the Eaft Side 5 but in this to which Mr. Dobbs refers, we are told, it is on the the Weft Side. Will Mr. Dobbs pretend that this and the Minutes he fat down of what the Mafter had faid to him from his own Memory, which he would have the World believe, is more genuine than the faid Matter's Anfwers to his Queries, and all Affi- davits in my Favour ; will he, I fay, call this 4 Gentlemanlike, or even an honeft Treatment ? The true Reafon why the Whales were not feen at any Diftance above Deer Sound, is what I have already mentioned, and not that very weak one which Mr. Dobbs fuppofes in the fame Paragraph, where he in- finuates, that they come from the V/eftern American Ocean m Search of Sea Spiders in Hudforfs Bay, over great Falls of Water, and thro' frefli Water Rivers. This Gentleman, very difingenuoufly, fays I muft refer to my Pocket Logg-Book, or to that of the Dif eovery, in which I might alter what I pleafed -, for in that which he left at the Admiralty, and which he himfelf had carefully perufed, there was no Mention of Whales feen without fVager River ; but I refer to niy Logg-Book given in by my felf to the Admi^ ralty, long before Mr. Dobbs attacked my Charafter. What he gave into the Admiralty, and what he calls a Logg.Book, was, I believe, no other than the Waftc-Book he got from the Mafter, on which no judicious Man would lay any Strefs. My Logg- Book, tho* I never compared i& with any but my- own Journal, I am pcfitive, muft agree in every material Point, with all other Journals and Logg- Books kept in either Ship during the Voyage. Hef' n\re ..- ^f rr". ro. VI13 ui xUW'nS^ KZiC. lilC^ were all Men on Board the Difcovery. 1 grant fome of them were, but their being in either the one or • the i;f I^^N,;" the other Ship, could certainly have no EfTcft upon Sfi^^^5"^'Sht 5 and they might as well have ftcn WhaJcs from on board that Ship, as any of us from on board the Furnace, I acknowledge as he charges me» I cxprcdy fct down, that I had feen no Whale or large Fifli of any fort, except one white Whale, csff. but this will appear was in Lat. 6'^'' 32', *and not near If^ager River, as Mr. Dohbs affirms, for Ihe Entrance of that being in Lat. 65^ 24', and our Courfc near N. E. the Diftance between the two is 4bout 40 or 50 Leagues. I believe no other Jour- nals have taken Notice of any Whales till our Re- ftirn off the Head Land 630 2o\ He lays great Strefs upon his Whales, which every one elfe muft Jfteem a very trifling Incident. He fays that I ac- knowledge I have feen Whales both at our going mto and coming out oifFager River, and that falfi- fted my former Letter, by mv Proof amounting to 1K> more than, three. ' Now, if Mr. Dohbs will allow the Number Three to be in the PlunU, I think it is evident I advance tiothing but the Truth, in fayin» we had feen Whales, confequently I have not falfi! fied my Letter. The reft of tlie Paragraph is a Sup- pofition of his own below Notice. ^ ^ : In his 2d Paragraph, Page 27. Mr. Dohbs fays the Lieutenant faw Stages at the high Bluff. I do not difpute that Gentleman having faid this ; but the Man on whom Mr. Dohbs lays great Strel's, and who was five Miles hi^er than the Lieutenant, faw none, as appears by his f Affidavit. What Mr. Dohbs pleafcs to term, conjeftural and evafive, I think ex- tremely probable and to the Purpofe, grounded on Accounts which I had no reafon to fufped of Fal- (ity. The Inland Indians travel about 200 Miles to the Sea-Coaft to kill Whale, t^c, for their Winter's Provifion. • Vid. my Logg- Journals, Jutyyih, in my Vindication. f Vid. Appendix, Guf% Affidavit. Mr. ( « ) Mr. D^^^i ajTertsfte had the Account of the Sea- Horfes and Whales from the Maftcr, mifon • I am apt to think he found that Account in the Minutes he wrote down when the Mafter had kh him, who mentioned nothing of Sea-Horfes, i^c, in his Anfwcr to the Queries of the Lords of the Admiralty (the Whales excepted near Deer Sound,) This was the Identical vile Perfon that declared he would fooncr beg his Bread than be the Ruin of any Man. that is' by anfwering contrary to Fa(5ls, and to even furh as he had f^ned for Truths, and thus hazard his own Charaaer to ruin that of another, by ferving any bafe Purpofe Mr. Mbs feems to think, nay in- deed, more than infinuates, that a Man of fuch Prin- ciples cannot be fuppofed but to be ready and willing oconceaJ, palliate, equivocate, deny, or afTert any thing, when *tis for the Service of one from whom be can have no ExpeBalms, and that the Public dught to have implicit Belief in whatever Ux.Dohh •himfelf aflferts, without condefccndine to give any Proof : Why el fe fhould he object the aL^ Words of the Mafter, ^bat be would he no Marf, Ruin as fufficient to invalidate his Evidence j and liimlelf, what is entirely groundlefs ^ Mv. Dohbs wouU unfairly infinuaie, by his quot- ^^ ^^ J,^"^"^^ th«^re were Whales feen at the upper Part of ^^.. River. The Journal fays there wer, tnany Whalesand other Fi/hahove, and none feen below The e indeterminate Words above and hdow, he would make his Advantage of ; but 'tis apparent they can refer to nothing but the Station of the Ships ^^hich lay at^^^^^^ Sound, half Way between the Entrance of the River ^^^^r and Deer Sound ; befide ^e Mafter and Lieutenant fent to try if any other the faid River into the micom, never had been much higher at that time than Deer Sound. The ^ Journal Si ||i,!i N ■ : Journal mentioning Whales, i£c, feen above, cannot be interpreted to intend above Veer Sound ; and in my Vindication, Page i8, I fay none ever faw Whales much above Deer Sounds which is but 1 5 Leagues higher than the Entrance of PP^ager River. If Mr. Dohhs did not defign the Journal Ihould be interpreted as I fay, the quoting this Part of it could ferve him for no other Purpofe. See Guf% Affidavit in the Appendix. Page 28 th in Mr. Dohbs's .v uarks, he fays, that my Anfwer to the large Colkftion of Water to the Weft ward is fallacious, ^c. And to fupport the ter- rible Charge, brought againft me in that Paragraph^ gives a Dream of his own in Evidence : t'or I abfo- Jutely deny that the Lieutenant or Mafter ever faid that beyond the Iflands was a Strait four Leagues wide, going W. S. W. or that they were in any by Channel between the Iflands and the Sbuthweft Main^ Mr. Dobbs knows this full well, and therefore fays, the Mafter, in his parole Evidence, before the Admi- ralty, had made this Declaration ; for the Truth of which Mr. Dobbs has given his AflTertion only, con- trary to the Anfwers f given in by both Lieutenant, Mafter and others. From this Fidion of his own, he draws a Conclufion, and in an exulting manner, treats me with Language very unbecoming the "Gentleman. I have already taken notice of the genuine Report having been altered, and the Probability of an Open- ing to the Eaftward, as in their joint Report, made on the Spot, changed to the Weft ward. Which of thefe two Reports ought to be deem*d the true one, 1 leave to the unbyafled •, but to put it out of all que- ll ion that there was a Run * or Fall of Water, which ii' •f* Vid. their Anfwer, Page 158, of my Vindication. * AnnenHiv Vid Anfwer to Ouerv 2d. danpcl hv Dnn/tZ/'afr^ Injerfon, Monro, Gil, ib. Vid. the iVIatterand Lieutenant's Ro- pori ill of Augnfit 1 742, in my Vindication, P:ige 1 1 . ta ( if ) Mf. Dohbs treats as a Fia'ion contrary to all Trutfi; tdimpofe on the Public, I refer my Reader to the Affidavit of Rtcbard Guy, f the Man whom Mr; Dobbs allows a material Witnefs, and who went with the Mafter five Miles higher than did the Leutenant • and alfo to the joint Report of the Lieutenant and Mafter. Txr^c-^^'^^'' ^^ Paragraph, Page 28, fays the S. W. Side was never try'd at all, and my croffing over below Savage Cove was nothing to the PurpofcT Indeed neither would it have been of any Ufeelfe- whcre. If he knows any thing of the Matter, he muft be fatBficd, as well as I am, that in thofe La- titudes, could a Paflage be found, it would not be bpen two Weeks in a Year, and many Years the getting to it would be impracticable. At the Bottom of Page 28, is a Repetition of a Charge, which I have anfwered in Page 20 of my Vindicationf In Page 29, by the great Logg-Book. he Jets the Public know I am convided of Faifity ; I repeat my Affirmation, and again appeal to Jour- nals and Logg.Books of the Mafters, Mates, and Midlhipmen of the Furnace, and to thofe of the two Mates of the Bifcovery, given in before he com- menced this Conteft, which doubtlefs will be allowed to be more authentic Evidence, than what he calls the Logg-Book, and I, the Wafte-Book, written by feveral Hands, and containing but very few Tranf- adions. If there arc any in it which differ from the above Vouchers, to which I appeal, there muft have been fome unfair Alteration nrade. 'Tis much cafier to alter one Book, than eight or ten Journals, each refpcftively carried through m one and the iame Hand Writing, and kept on board two different Ships. I will not tax Mr. Dobbs with fuch Forgery ; he will, however, excufe ir.c» "" ' ' ' " irtjf, ujai iii my t In the Sequel I (hall give a fuller Anfwer. D 2 •'t »i Opinion I j! I ! ii li 'i! jif»®! ( ^6) ppinion he docs not underftand a Logg-Book. But why does he lay fuch Strefs upon this Logg-Book, and is lb unwilling to be determined by the Journala i mentioned ? In anfwer to what Mr. D^^^i in the fame Page fays, I admit that I was fix Leagues due Eaft of Cape DobbSi I have reduced the three Courles into one, allov^ing the Variation,and find ftom four m the After- fioon to ~ paft three the next Morning, we (leered S. W. and by S. true Courfe 6y Miles or 23 Leagues, which made our Latitude 64^ 15' the Latitude df Cape Fullerton. This Cape is abOut i** 4- to the Weft ward of Cape Dobbs, and not two or three De- grees Difference of I^ongitlide, with a Diftance be- tween the two Capes of qo Leagues, as my candid Antagonift infinu^tts, who would alfo evince that we did riot come w-ithin fix Leagues of the Head- Land of fVbakbone Point, and had not four Hours Day-light. The Sun at that Time fets there, after eight *, and in thofe Latitudes, at that Time you have above two Hours Twilight j the Night was fair and tlear to one o'Clock in the Morning, as will appear by the Logg-Book ; befide we had the Help ot the Northern Lights which appeared then as they do in jnoft clear Nights. Now compare our true Courfe, ftcered, viz. S. W. and by S. with the Chart, and it will be found that we pafled the Iflands off of Whale- ■heme Point within two Leagues, about half an Hour :paft fix that Evening, and that by 10 o'Clock we had pafled nioft part of this great Bay (as Mr. Dobbs ;terms it) which is not above three Leagues deep, and then could fee at one View both Cape Fullerton rand Whalebone Point as difl:indly as at Noon. It blew a frefli Gale at two in the Morning, and the Weather came on thick and hazey -, we were about t\uc\ nr t\\rff T porriioo A^^p ITirt- r\(^ tVia l(1a«.-lc r\f Cape Fullerton, and fell fuddenly into flioal Water from (37 ) from- 43 tc 25 Fathoms, which occafioned our fteer* ing off South to deepen our Water, and to lye to for clear and moderate Weather. In this } aded according to the bed of my Judgment, and I then thought, confidering the Weather was thick, that we had a frefli Gale upon the Shore j were in an un- known Part of the World, had not above five or fix Men in a Watch abjc to go aloft to hand or reef a Sail, including even the Officers, that I could not adl with greater Care and Prudence. Had Mr. Dobbs been there he would, poflibly, have direded me better. The Coaft lies W. by S. by Compafs, and the Wind about Eaft was upon the Weft Shore. We were then but five Leagues diihnt from the Main of that Shorje, and for two, ,three or more Leagues from that Main, lye many fmall Iflands and Reefs of Rocks, as I had obferved in our Paflage outwards, and from Scrqggs's Journal. I thought, I fay, that I could not do better, after I had got into deeper Water and in a fair Way, than to by the Ship's Head to the Southward, and wait for clear Weather. When Mr. Dohhs will be fo good as to convince me of my Error in this way of Working, I will readily acknowledge my Ignorance and his fuperior Judgment in Sea Affairs. ' This plain Nar- rative of Matter of Fad, fupported by Vouchers, proves the Affidavits the very Truth, and nothing but the Truth. And if the Lieutenant and Clerk fay that they could fee only the Tops of the Moun- tains, the former contradids his own Journal, and the latter advances a Falfity. In the lame Page that Gentleman taxes me with paffing in the Night all the Openings feen by Nor- ton. J knew of none he faw, and if he has made a Report of any Openings, it muft be falle -, for we w^.l^^ ti^i.T itjs.vu ill vjui J. tiiiijj^c v/uL, liiui 11. was aii Main Land, which afforded i Openi we ob- ferved only fome fmall IQand-s-off the Head Lands 1)^ D and ii!l li w ( 38) tnd that we were very certain oi this, will appear from our Council held the 8th Day ofJuguJf, in which it was agreed to fearch between 640 and 63°, that is, to begin to the Southward of Cape Fullerton] and the Logg will ihew we were not above four Miles to the Southward of 64°. The loth Day at Noon we were by Obfervation in Lat. 63° 56', in about 25 Fathom Water. At 8 that Morning we were three Leagues from the Land, and kept rounding that Bay between 64'> and S^'' id in the Day-time j at Night we hauled a little farther ofF to deepen our Water. We laid too till Day-light, and Hood in with the Land in the Morning N. W. and W. N. W. to fetch up what we had loft in the Night by driving, as may be feen in the Logg. Journal loth and I ith of Auguft f. We were in 20 or 30 odd Fa- thoms ; feldom above three or Four Leagues from the Land in the Day-time ; to avoid Danger in the Night we were farther ofF. There are indeed feve- ral Errata in the printed Logg, wjiich may be com- pared with the Manufcript. 1 delivered one into the Admiralty when I gave in my Journal. Could the very knowing Mr. Dohbs imagine that the Ship was to coaft a Ihore, where Land is as high as that over "torbay or above Plymouth, in the manner Boats do, at half a Mile Diftance, efpecially with a Wind, moft Part of the time, two or more Points on the Shore, and a Tender, which was a bad Sailer, if embayed j or can that Gentleman call four or five Leagues a great Diftance from fuch a Shore ? I need ^ive no farther Anfwer to this long Charge, which takes up near two Pages. The Reafon I gave for not fending my Boat 3. Ihore, Page 20 of my Vindication, is fupported by the Evidence of Men whofe Charaders will hardly i^^Civ^aaj ijiwiiiiiii iiuin tnc i^irc ivir. Dt.^f'j tiirows, f Vi'J. Log? Book p,t» or ( 39 ) or his bold AflTcrdons, and parole Evidence ; and I believe their Affidavits will at lead ballance what Mr. Dobbs advances upon his bare Word, efpccially when the Aflair of the Difcovery throws hiru into fuch Paffions as vifibly prevent his thoroughly con- fidering what he writes i for as he afts with Judg- ment and Prudence in his other Affairs, we may rea- fonably conclude, was not this his Cafe, he would never have publifhed iuch groundlefs Affertions, In- confidencies, Contradidions, falfe Reafonings ; have Ihewn fuch Difmgcnuity, or have employed fuch Flower of Rhetoric throughout his Remarks, as are feldom ufed by others than the polite and Female Retailers of the fcaky Race. The Mailer, who, for his own Sake, he would infinuate is perjured, has fworn that he had been tampered with by Mr. Dobbs ^ my Clerk, and Surgeon. I refer to his Affidavit, Page 138 of my Vindication, which fhews how in- duftrioas Mr. Dobbs has been to walh himfelf clean and throw the Dirt upon me i for it there appears he would have engaged that honeft Man, by the Hopes of fucceeding to my Command, to have written down fomething relating to the late Voyage under Capt. Middleton. This was Mr. Dobbs's own importunate Define, and I leave the Reader, from the Virulency of his Remarks, to determine whether k was to do me Juftice. After this, in a fccond Vifit from Tbompfin and IVigate +, being prefled by the latter to write down Anfwers to fome Queftion or Queftions, the Mafter fufpecling a wicked Defign, and refuQng to anfwer Jbompfpn^ let drop this memo- able Exprt-flion, That be thought this Deponent fnucb in the Right, till he knew upon what Confideration he was to do ity i. e. anfwer the Queftions. Does not this fniell rank of Corruption ? Does not this fpcak t^i f Vid. P;.ge 138 in my Vindication. ' P4 the « ( 40 ) the true Charaaers oF his Agcnti ? Unhappily for the induanous Mr. Vobbs, and no doubt to the great ^rpnzc of his Witnc(r«, on whom he builds, Maftcr f^tlJoH had more Regard to the Satisfaftion of a clear <-onfciencc, than to the Views of Intcreft j neither was he as weak and inconndcrate as tiic Lieutenant, for had he had no regard to Jufticc, yet he had too nuich benfc to fign any thing contradi^ory to his Journals and Reports ^ and if he had not, as they make ftrongly in my Favour, it would not have anlwcrcd Mr. Dehh's Views. But to give a full Anfwer to this Paragraph, Page 30, 3, of that Gcntlfmau's Remarks, in which he feems fatisfied he has convinced the World that I am both Fool and Knave, and with an Apoftrophc exults in the fol- Jowing Words, ♦• Is not all this Sham, Evafion, and Trick, to impofe upon Mankind, (^c** I fliall f^t down a Narrative cf Facls, known to be true by ail my Ship's Company, nay, fijpportcd by Affi- davits t, which will plainly Ihew that Mr. Iiobbsh^% iung leDeum before the ViAory. One the 3d of Auguji, with fome Difficulty I got, with my Officers and fome of my poor Cripples, into the eight-oared Boat, and even my Officers themfelves and the Boys rowed on board with the Ship's Oars j altho' the Men, when they had got into the Boat, could handle their Oars, they could not walk upright, but went double. Our Ship's Company was in fuch a deplorable Condi- tion, that we had not above two or three of our Men and Petty Officers in a Watch who could go up to hand or reef a Sail, which were always done by the Mafter Gunner, Carpenter, Boatlwain, and Cook. What was done on board the Tender, I know not but by the Affidavits. ^ j^ Vid. TcciVs, Van Sc^r'ri, and Grant's in my Vindication, \^^ 'il-\'^^' ^^'' '^'-^ """ tJ:c .Append- X to theie Shccti' Mr, ( 41 ) Mr. Dvbhs mentions two Boats a head, but tfje Logg and Journal take notice of no more than one i but whatever he advances muft be l>urh, however contrary to authentic Evidence and folemn Affida- vits ^ the former, he would have the WorJd believe had been revifed and altered by me to fcrve my own Purpofes, viz. The Concealment of his imaci- nary Paflage, to oblige the Hu^fon's Bay Companv i the lattq-, downright Perjury to oblige me In anlwcr to my recalling the Lieutenant on Doard, whom I ordered afliore to try the I'ides I refer my felf to the Mafter's Qiierry 8, where m apparent that my Reafon was the Danger of lofing the King's Ship, had the Boat and Men been loit by the Ice. It is certain that I went on bhore, as Mr. Dobbs fays, but I trufted the Ship to • i^f'^xx'^" ^'^''*' "•' it was more his Bufinefs in Pilot s \\ ater than the Lieutenant's ; befide, the termer was acquainted with the nature of Ice, havintc made feveral Voyages to Greenland, &c. And far- ther It appears by the Council held the 8th oiJuPu/f that I was obliged to take the Gunner, Carpenter and Clerk, for part of the Boat's Crew, and had but dirce Men and a Boy with the /W;Vz« Linguia in the Boat with me, eight in all. Mr. Dobbs labours this Point of the Boat, faying the pth, loth, nth and 1 2th, my Men were all fick again, and no Boat durft be trultcd afliore, altho' it was fine Weather. This IS charging me roundly upon Hear-fay, for I deny, and the Journal will prove, that either on the gth loth, nor nth, we had Weather in which wc could vcnrurc a Boat from the Ship, but on the contrary, we had either ftrong Gales, hazey Weather, or a great Sea. Farther, we had no Bufinefs on tlie Days Ipecified to fend the Boat on Ihore. On the 12th at 3 in the Morning it was moderate Weather, as we t Vid. my Vindication. call ii. 41 ( 4» ' cali it. I fent the Lieutenant on Shore to try the Tides, and to fee if he could water our Ships for home i yet notwithftanding he fet out (o early, had but three or four Leagues to Shore, and the Wea- ther fine, it was Evening before he could reach ir, the Men were fo weak, tho^ he had always the bcft Hands with him. Mr^. Dobbi fays the Surgeon, by producing his Books, has proved, that out of 5^ Men, then on board the Furnace, there were but eight unfit for Ser- vice, and concludes this long Paragraph in a mod: Gentleman like manner, viz. "Is not his Defence here a glaring Impudence ?" The Matter's Anfwer to Qijerry 1 3 th, proves, all the Men and Officers know, and feveral of them have fworn the direct contrary to the Surgeon's Information, Nay, 'tis well known to the Admiralty, and the King's Hofpitals can witnefs the Trouble they had with my fick Men ; fome I was obliged to leave at the Orkneys, who had loft the Ufe of their Limbs, and others, both Offi- cers and Men, were difcharged after we came into the River, as no longer fit for the Service. Mr. Dobbsy in his next Paragraph, Page 31, prp- mifes a Specimen of his Knowledge, which appears afterwards to be in Page 38, and has given me too favourable an Opportunity to convince him of Igno- rance. I hope he will excufe, me as it is neceflary to my Defence, my hereafter laying hold on it, by demonftrating, as I fliall in the Sequel, that he knows nothing of either the Theory or Pradice ot_ Tides or Currents. He fays, almoft in the Words of the MaUer's AnfArer to Qhery 13, that when once the I'lmc of the Tide is fixed on Shore, and 'tis known which is Flood, and which is Ebb, by the Slacks It may be known on Board which is Flood • but then he allcs. Is this the Cafe here ? VJ^< ir nor ■i K It: t VitLmy Fiudlcation, Qiipry 13. declared ( 4B ) declared in Council, that they had no Opportunitv of knowing at the JFelcome when they came out, which was the Flood Current -, and was not that the Keafon why they were to fearch the Coaft again ? I anfwer to Mr. Vohhs. this was the Cafe -, we found by the Siacks that the former Obfervations were juft. I will allow him, the Declaration he men- tions in Council, but then I mull beg the Favour of him to diftinguiih between our going out and coming WOme. It would have been contrary to my Inftrufti- ons, to have Joft Time outward bound. I was not to try the Tides till I arrived at Whalebone Point, and this Refolution was taken after that, and to be complied with in our Return. I have faid in my Logg and Journal, on the fifth o^July, I tried the Tide feveral Times, * and found It to run two Miles an Hour, from N. E. by E. by Compafs, the Day before full Moon ; I took it to ^e the Flood from the Eaftward ; the Tides had been tried all the Way from Churchill f. Off of and at Whale Cove, and near Brook Cohham, by the Company's Sloops: There is an Hour and an half Difference in the Time of high Water, between Chi^rchtll and PFager River. We were long enough m this latter, to be certain as to the Heights of the Tides When we came out of that River, we never miffed trying every two Hours, their Direaions and ^lacKs, all the Way as we went towards the frozen Mraits 5 though not often put down in the Logg. Book. When I paffcd by the low Beach, I could plainly fee by the Ice left at high Water, what Time it was of the Fide. We were about half a Mile diftant from the Shore, in 25 Fathoms Water, at fix in the Morning, on the fifth Day ; as appears by the Journal, trom this Account, it is plain to a De- inonHration, that i neither defignedjy difguifed the * Lieutenant's Journal, i AV//j\., Fauc;:an\ Naper\ Hanmk\ and S^itk'i Journals. Tide ( 44 ) Tide at Cape Frigid, nor could call the Ebb-th€t Flood. Farther it appears from the Lieutenant'^ Account above mentioned, th?it he was driven away to the Eaftward after ! went a Shore, with a ftrong Tide ; indeed, he fays, he knew not whether it was Flood or Ebb, Where I landed ^bout ii o'clock, it had ebbed five or fix Foot by the Shore, ;ind when we came to the Boat at about half an Hour pad four, it had flowed four Foot, as ha? been before mentioned. This I believe will be al^ lowed me, by every knowing Man, to be fufficient to determine the Tide, This Account of the Tides was figned by the Gunner and Carpenter, in Coun- cil held the eighth o^ Auguft, being written down by the Clerk ; no Objections were made when either it was read or figned. I acknowledge that I was not in Whale Cove^ but I tried it off that Place at only three Leagues Diftance. I had read the Journals (already mention- ed) of Gentlemen who had been there, and had tried the Tide •, and I could rely upon their Accounts, as they were Men of Judgment. Their Journals are in the Company's Poffeflion, and it was from them I gave Mr. Dohbs an Account of the Tides (which I {inCQ found agree with the Tryal I made as above) long before I went upon the Difcovery, and thefe he has publifned in his delightful Romance. Mr. Bobhs'^ fecond Paragraph, Page 32. afl^erts that we quitted the Difcovery on the third of Ju^ujt, when we left PVager Strair, an open bold Pafllige leading S. W. the only Courfe wifned for. In An- fwer to the former Part, I fay that we tryed all the Coaft to Brook Cob.ba?n, In Lac. 6^'^. f which Mr. DMs calls Marble Ifland, as it was agreed in Coun- cil ; therefore did not give over or quit the Difcovery + Vid. Reports an4 Affidrivit?, h this Appendix and in that to my \ indication. at (4f) Rt H^ager River : But, as I have faid, in my Vindi- cation, Page 23. at Brook Cobbam, when we left that Place on the 15th. the other Part which men* tions his imaginary open Paflage, &c. I have aU ready anfwered : But as my worthy Antagonift is apparently fond of Repetition, to oblige him, I again deny any body having mention'd to me th6 Tides coming from the Weftward, or any Open- ings at Marble Ifland (before the Qiieries were fent me) ; as to thefe latter, I have, I think, dcmon- ftratcd already, that I could have no Account of them from the Lieutenant; the reft of this Para? graph is already anfwered. - In the next Paragraph, this public fpirited Geft- tlemanj whofe Zeal for his Country has unhappily engaged him in this Conteft, fays that I was afraid of being frozen up at my Return, t?f . in September^ but I had no fuch Fear upon me, when in the Com- pany's Service (for that is implied in his Words) I did then every Year return in September, He then ex- claims: Is not this very prevaricating} Does he not know I never was fo far Northward in the Compa- ny's Service? Is he not fenfible that a narrow Strait of a few Leagues is fooner frozen over than a large Bay? Is he not convinced by the Evidence of his own Reafon, that the ProgrefTion of Ice is from the Shore? And if he has any Candour, muft he not allow that the frefli Water of a River is much fooner frozen, than that of the Ocean ? If thefe are all Fads, which muft be allowed by every Body, why does he uncanded- ly tax me with groundlefs Apprehenfions, when he knows in his Confcience that this was my Situation at Wager River ? Where I then was, is in the La- titude near ee^" North ; the Entrance of it not above fix- or feven Mil^s over -, the Water alcove Beer Sound, frefli enough for our Men both to ^ drink, and to makeBroath of. Confequently, had I flayed^ * Vid. AfTidavits, in Appendix, • as tSi' *; H m i;« M as this knowing Gentleman infinuates I ought to have done, all September -, 'tis very probable, I had Joft both his Majcfty's Ships, and the Lives of his Subjefts intrufted to my Care, and have perifhed with them : In what then have I prevaricated? Mr. Dobhsy in Page 32. alks the how all to the Southward of es"" had been carefully fought, ^c. For none but Buito^y Fox^ and Scroggs^ were ever there 5 confequently it was never fought by many others : And to prove this Gonfequence, he roundly aflerts that the Company's Sloops went to conceal, and not to make a Difcovery. For the Truth of which the Public has this Gentleman's infallible Word, and ought therefore to give no Credit to Journals which contradifl him, and would be al* lowed authentic Proofs againft the- Affertions of any other. In Anfwer to his.firft Paragraph, Page 33. I IhaH only averr, that I was not privy to the Contents of any Letter, written by Mr. Lanrick, to Mr. Dohhsi or to any body elfe in Ireland, The reft of it is not worth Notice. Mr Dobbs in his next P;iragraph, fays, that frelh Water being lighter than the Salt, will be borne up for fome time, and the Surface be only brackifh. I Ihould be glad to know his Opinion, how long hfe thinks the frefh Water would be thus borne up, in a Place eight or r.ine Leagues over, from fixty to eighty Fathoms deep, with ftrong Tides :» And how comes it that Nature (hould not produce the fame Etfeas, at the IVelcome, Nezv Straits^ or Repulfe Bay, in which lafl: there is no Tide, and in all thefe Places, far greater Quantities of Ice and Snow, from a vaft Number of Waterfalls which empty themfelves into them : Yet the Contrary of Mr. Do!?b.s*s Conjecture is known by Experience ; for tiie Water is fo far from being brackilh, that' it is equally Salt widi any Part of the Bajy, The follow- ing (47) ■ ing Paragraph is already anfwered} and the neXt to it is of no manner of Importance. In Page 34. this Gentleman charges me with Fal- fity, and Invention ; and infinuates I did not follow my Inftrudions, that I might impofe on the Public, Off. As 'tis poffibic thefe Sheets may fall into the Hands of Perfons who may not have the two pre- ceding Books : I beg leave to infert a Part of them, and fhall then refcrr myfclf to the Judgment of the Public. After having pafs'd Hudfon^s Straits, I was ordered to proceed to Gary Swan's Neft -, and then to fteer North Wefterly, fo as to fall in with the North Weft Land, at Sir Thomas Roe's IVelcome, or Ne Ultra, near the Lat. of 65^ North. Here follow the very Words, " You are there to make the beft •' Obfervations you can of the Height, Diredion •• and Coarfc of the Tides ; Bearing of the Lands ; '* Depths and Soundings of the Sea and Shoals " with the Variation of the Needle. " When you come up with Whale Bone Point, " in Ss"", you are to try the beft Paffage, in dou- *' bling that Land whether to Eaftward or Weft- " ward, in Cafe it be an Ifland •, and on which fide '' foever you meet the' Tide at Flood, to dired your Coiirfe, fo as to meet the Tide whether North Wefterly, or South Wefterly ". Now can this Gentleman be underftood in any Part of thefe Inftrudions, for the Diredion of my CoLirfe ; but in the Part of meeting the Tide of Flood, fince he has taken in 26 Points of the Com- pafs. With Regard to the Frozen Straits, the high Tides contained in it, and the reft of this Paragraph, they (hall be anfwered in the Sequel. The firft Paragraph, Page 35. we have Mr. Dobbs*s Word, that the IVfnfl-/-r Hpn;#»/4 h-fn.- ^i,« a .1 miralty his knowing any thing of the Tide and Straits by me mentioned. And he offers us the fume Se- curity •( (( (( u \ ^m (48) • Ciirity for the fulJ Anfwer afterwards given by th6 Matter, being all Hear-fay, upon the Faith he re- pofed in me. I believe the Public from any other than Mr. Dohh, would exped better Authority than a bare Affertion. The full Anfwer Mr. Dobbs let us know is of no ufe to me : For by comparing that of the Clerk, with the Account and Draught lent by the Gunner, (^c. againft that I have fet down in my Logg and Journal, my frozen Strait IS proved a meer Fi^ion. With regard to the Clerk's Evidence, I think he is a very improper Witnefs, as he IS no Judge not to ufe a harflier Expreffion. As to the Gunner's Draught, I have two Reafons to doubt Its being genuine: The firft, becaufe the Man bears a very honed Chara^er, and the feccnd^ becaufe he contradifts what he himfelf figned (be* jng called into the Council held the eighth of JuFuJi) when It was read to him by the Clerk^ in prefence pr the other figning Officers *. The Gunner's Draught, which Mr. Dohbs imagines makes in Favour oi him, has on the contrary^ opened twice as much more room for the Tides and Whales, and an open Channel as wide as the great Channel of the frozen Straits ; and makes ■Cape Frigid only an Ifland, lying in the Way of the main Channels. I cannot but acknowledge the De- figncrs of this Draught have (hewn great Judgment, and have given the Public convincing Proofs of their Capacity: For inltcad of Hopping up the frozen Straits, and leaving no Paffage for Tides and and Whales, they have given them as much room again and have made thele two Channels round ^oth Lnds of their Ifland f, to run into one. I re- fer my Reader to the Sequel for an Anfwer to the reft of this Paragraph, and the foilowing Pages as far as the Paragraph ; in which he obliges the World,- * ViJ. Qnery and Anfwer five. Appendix. t Vid. Remarks, p, 14^. ahci (4P) and in particular all Mariners, with an accurate Defcription of Hudfon's Bay j and Dii^aions whac Courfes to (leer; on which I ihall not here make any Obfervation : I fhall only take notice of that Part, where I apprehend he leaves off, to fall foul according to Cullom, upon my Charafter, at the End of Page 49. Tho' in the Interim, I fhall reply to fuch things as do not regard the Do<5lrine of Tide/ 6ff. within the Compafs of thbfe Pages: In that d 39 he fays, I tax him with having mifreprefcnted the Affair of the Boat's being carried out of the River by the Ebb Current. I ftill continue in affirming that Charge. I have already made, and fhall in the Sequel make this Mifreprefentation more plainly appear Whenever this Gentleman afferts, and cannot proved he has no other Way of coming off than by Green- ing himfelf under the Admiralty Board, as he does here, and attefting his two credible WitncfTes, the Lieutenant, or his own Minutes. What I advance is fupported by Fads, authentick Vouchers, the Affida* vits of Perfons of Charader j by Experience, long Practice, and a thorough Knowledge of Sea Affair? I do not offer to impofe upon the Publick my owA Suppofitions, Reafonings and Conclufions, drawA from bare Surmifcs j neither do I cxpedt they fhould rely on my Word for any thing I affert ; Tho' Mr Dohhs thinks the World under an Obligation to oWe an entire Credit to his ; how dk would he venture to affirm, without offering the lead Proof, that the Mafter gave a different Anfwer in Writing to what he had told him before the Surgeon and Clerk, Men entirely at his Devotion, and, I had almolt faid, un* der his Dirc(5lion. In Page 40 of that Gentleman's Remarks he ac- knowledges, that he wrote upon Hearfay ; and this a think is- owning a very great Difingenuity, tho* he endeavours to falve it, faying, his Information may not h*ve been wrong, as the Spring-tides arc not at K the ■f'i ^!T1 J { SO) tht higheft till three Days after the Full of the Moon. But by what Rule can Mr. Dobbs make out the Pro^ bability of the Velocity of the Current, as he calls the Tide, augmenting one half in four Days ? for I try'd it the Day before the Full -, and he acknowledges Spring-tides arc at the higheft three Days after the lull Moon. , He fays, in Page 41, the Rcafon of my recalling the Lieutenant, after I had ordered him at the low Beach to try the Tide, was my Fear of his difcovcr- ing the Truth. This is a Repetition, and a very bold Affcrtion, fuch a one as I have already evinced ientirely groundlefs. In anfwer to the reft of die Pa- ragraph, firft with regard to what he builds upon the Lieutenant's Account, viz, that the Tide had ebbed two Foot, I (hall make it evidendy appear it was a Miftake and Abfurdity in the Clerk's Tranfcribing. The Copy from the Logg to the Journal, and what I lent to Mr. Dobh was fign'd by me without examin- ing it as clofely as I fliould have done, had I been cither confcious of having aded other wife than became a Man of Probity, or had had the leaft Sufpicion of my Qiaradter being thus unfairly attack'd. With relation to what is faid of my checking the Boatmen and Clerk, 'tis pure Fiftion; and the Remainder of the Paragraph is already anfwer'd. I am charged with falfe Reafoning, in Mr. Dobbs'& firft Paragraph, Page 42. I fay my Reafons are founded upon certain Obfervations, on the Know- ledge of all who are acquainted with Sea-affairs ; and not likf, his, which are almoft always upon Suppo- fitions and Probabilities. If Mr. Dobbs would not have it believed that the Tides flow from P^ager River, it would have been kmdm him to have marked it off in his corred Chart, widi which he has obliged the Publick. He defires me to fhew that he hinted any thing like this. Why thon does he mention the Pfobability of, or give his Opinion ( Si ) Opinion that there is, a Southweacrn Tide ? No one can fuppofe a Gentleman of Mr. Dobbs*s Capacity writes without Meaning •, but Obfcurity is often a great Help to a bad Caufc, and a common Subter- fuge with all Cavillers. Mr. 2)<^MAfirft Paragraph, Page 43, is fully an- fwered in my Vindtcation, Page 154 ; but Mr. Bobbs iays, that this material Point of the Difcovery, viz of the Lieutenant's Tide and Opening, I have taken no notice of in my Defence : Hence 'tis plain Mr. DobbsmW not allow my Appendix to be any Part of my Defence. Is not this childifh Equivocation ? I had, as that Gentleman fays, the Lieutenant's Draught and Account from the Admiralty J true; and I treat It with that Contempt it merits. Mr. Dobbs*s elaborate Manner of unfolding the Lieutenant's enveloped Meaning is, I think, mean, but not meanlefs. I fhall expofe in the Sequel the l^alfities he has therein introduced, and the Subter- tuges he has been obliged to make ufe of, with De- -fign to impofe on the Publick, and blacken my Cha- racter. In Part of the Lieutenant's Anfwer to Query the 20th, contained in the fame Paragraph, he explains, by way of Parenthefis, what he would have the World believe the Lieutenant meant; tho'he has not the Jcalt Ground for fo doing from that Officer's Wo^ds which are, as he has printed them, that « the Capl tain did not difcourage him from making any l^{?AA-c' ^^"^'T^ '"^ '" ""i"ft Infinuation tha I did difcourage him {viz. the Lieutenant) from making Difcovenes elfewere. Do fuch low Arti- hces, fuch mean and ungentlemanlike Infinuations become one of Mr. Dobbs*& Chara^^r? An^ a.. ,u... not betray his Caufe and Defign very badfanVun-' warrantable, when he is oblig'd to have recourfe m them, to fupporc the one and carry on the other? If !;■ E 2 Tha: ( fO That Gentleman, when he quoted Part of Mack- heib*s Affidavit, Page 45, ha:' he acted openly, and without Dcfign to conceal the Truth, would at the fame time have given the Rcafon for that Part of Mackbeth*s Oath which he calls an Evafion .* It was to contradid the Lieutenant, Surgeon, Clerk, and Accounts gi"en to me by Landmen, which I tranfmittcd to Mr. Bohhs, as he mentions, in my Letter of the 20th o^ January 1737-8, which were only upon Hearfay : Wherefore I could not be afraid of their being contradicted, as now they are, by tl>e above Deponent, who was five Years at Churchil, a Seaman, in the Company's Service •, and by the Mafter and Mate of a Sloop belonging to Churchill^ who have traded there many Years, and whofe Ac- counts agree with that Part of Mackbeth^s Affidavit mentioned. T refer my Reader for the Whole co my Vindication, Page 140. He fays again, in the firfl: Paragraph of Page 46, that I have allowed there is no Tide North of Mill JJles, near my new frozen Streights ; and that I now bring a vaft ftrong Tide thro* it. Is not this very difmgenuous, to confound what J formerly advanced from the Account given by his favourite Author Captain fox, &c. with what I have fince learned by Obfervation ? Mr. Dohbs knows as well as I, and has owned it in one of his Letters f, that what I for- merly allowed was not from my own Knowledge. But his Bufmefs is to blacken me, and he is therefore more induftrious to envelope than to lay open the Truth ; and in this, I cannot but own, he Hiews a good deal of Art and Induftry. Mr. Dobbs, in his third Paragraph, Page 46, catches at the Particle as, to prove me guilty of Fal- Tity. Indeed that Particle was incautioufly ufed, and does imply tmiBuiiOa and Fox had been on thauCoaft feveral Years. Had Mr. Dobbs been a candid Anta- ■f r/^ his, dated at i'/7/r«, Odobtr zoy 1742. gonift, ( f3 ) gonift, he would have allowed this Particle an Inad- vertency, by my being particular in naming the Number of Voyages nude by Kelfej^, &c. which he would have owned a fair Diftiuguifhing between the two former and thtffc lactcr j but, to ufe his own Words, a drowning Mar. will catch at Straws. He goes on in the fame Paragraph and avtrrs, that the Company wanted to prevent, not to make Difcovcp ries i and quotes again my Letter abovementioned to fupport this AiTertion : My Words are, " It would " not be prudent in me to quit their (viz. the Com- pany's) Employment upon an Uncertainty •, and if they (hould come to the Knowledge of my having any Intention to accept of fuch an Offer, (viz. the going upon a Difcovery) I have too much Reafon to apprehend they would immediately difcard me. So what I now write being unknown to them, I rely on your Honour wilJ not be divulged to my Prejudice. In Ihort, I believe the Company think it their Intereft, rather to prevent than forward new Difcoveries in that Part of the World, and for that Reafon will not fuffer any of our Journals to be made publick.(l" Now I would afk Mr.Dobbs, whether he has publiihed this Letter with an Intent to do mc Service .? If it is not, as I believe the World will be apt to think, he proves that my depending upon his Honour was relying upon a broken Reed. In his Preface he has endeavoured to avoid the Re- proach of fo ungentlemanlikc a Proceeding, by a Jefuitical Addition ; faying, I defired he would not publjfli my Correfpondence with him, and what Ob- fervations I (hould give him, while I continued in the Company's Service. Thcfe laft Words, which limit a Time for this Secrecy, he cannot produce in any of my Letters ; and I affirm it is an evafive Infertion. That Part of my Letter wl^ich hejhinks pinches me, and un wliich he grouiiUs his Aiiertion. 4C (( C( C( i( {( (C (( cc it cc •c cc See \vU.it is Ijefc z faid of this Letter. E ^ itber the H 1 i, ( f4) the Effeft he hopes, nor will it be of Service to him : I am Hill of the fame Opinion, and my Rcafons«arc thcfc i They had already loft one Ship and a Sloop, with both their Companies, and one Sloop, whofe Company was iaved, fince the Year 1719-^. In 1722, Serous was fcnt by the Company, who went as fur as Buttonh Ne ultra only. Therefore as they had Ground, at Jcaft in their Opinion, to imagine the farther Attempt of a Difcovery fruitlcfs, they had no Inclination to hazard again Mens Lives, and lart^e Sums of Money \ and no dOubt were unwilling th° c others .ihould attempt it, as it might be a Cloak for Interlopers, and hurt their Trade. Having, as he thinks, by my Letter llipported his Aflertion, he from thence concludes, that what 7r I, -• I . ( ftf ) does not diftinguifh to which the more particular and confirmative Account was given ; I fhoiild be glad he would acquaint the PubJick, in what Language he and thefe Mians converfed : I have already fhewn it was impoflible for him, the Surgeon, tounderftand their Language, tho* he. has publifhed a Vocabulary of if, which will convince the World what Credit his Evidence deferves. John Butler^ f the only Englijh^ man living who underftands the Northern Indian Lzn- guage, has carefully examined this curious Work, printed at the End of Mr. Dohh*s Account of the Countries adjoining to Hudfon's Bay, &c. and he averrs it is all falfe, and a Fidion to impofe on the Pubhck. If this Informer fays, he converfed with the Indians in Englijh, the Ship's Company can vouch they underftood it not •, if his Information was by Signs, they hardly can be thought a more particular and confirmative Account than Mr. Norm's, or even any Account at all : But they mark'd out, it feems upon the Surgeon's Table the Track of Land, or Confines of their Country. Allowing thefe Indians to be as good Geographers as this Witnefs makes them, how does he know that what they marked out upon his Table was the Track of Land, or Confines of their Country.? 'Tis evident, by what I have aN ready faid, they could not underftand one another. For aught this Wimefs knows, they mark'd out fome other Country ? But I am fully of Opinion they mark'd out none at all ; and I believe the World will thirilc this moft probable, both from the Ignorance of the Northern Indians, and their choofing to give their Accounts to the Surgeon, preferably to me or ro my Lieutenant ; for tho* they are ignorant of Arts and Sciences, yet they are not void of common Senfe, and that would make them eafily diftinguifh who were the chief Officers, and fuggeft to them, that ,uyS4 tVvIv, tjiv pjv|jv-jtir ircnuns lO DC lijiormed. j- f'fdf his AtteUation. ^s ( f 7 ) As to my Letter ofO^ohr 1739, to which Mr, Dohbs referrs ; what is it more than an Account of Mr. Norton's Opinion, and of what he informed me; on which, I fay, this confirms that the two Seas mult unite. Now, on the Whole, how has he proved me guilty ofaFalfity? What Reafon has he given that I fhould lofe my Credit with the World ; that I fliould think I dealt with blind People or Children ? Or how has he made it appear that Norton faid otherl wife than what I reported, by his Reference to MeiT. 7'bompfon and U^igate*s Account ? In his firft Paragraph of Page 48, he charges me with inferting a great deal more than was in my Ma- nufcript. Were I as much difappointed, -^nd, in eonfcquence of it, as angry as Mr. Bobbs^ 1 (hould retort his own Dialed, and fay, this is folfe. I averr I have not printed more than what I gave in to the Admiralty in Manufcript 5 though 'tis poffible Mr. Dobbs did not immediately receive it: That Manu- fcript was referred to him by their Lordfhips •, but his Friend, or Acquaintance, not to call him his Agent, Mr. Smith, took the Liberty to open the Pac- ket, whether it was fealed or not I cannot fay, and the Contents of Pages 43 and 44 of my Vindication, being in a loofe Leaf, were taken out : Wigate gave me an Account of what that and Rankin's LmtT con- tained ', and Mr. Smith looked into that Pacquet \ nay mgate confeffed a few Days after, that he alfo looked into it at Mr. Smith's Accompting-houfe. I don't qiieftlon but they will both deny this, Mr. Smith having pofirively denied his defiring me to write to Mr. Dobbs, and give him Hopes of a Pajfage, though I thought ctherwife, is a fufficient Ground for this Apprehenfion with regard to him ; and I have as good Reafon to doubt Mr. Wigate's being over ten. der of wounding the Truth. I am ready to make Alfidavii of what I aflert j poffibly they may not be fo 11 K: V K ' "^ p 11 if ■>! 5! ■ " . \ ■ 1:1 ( ^s ) fo free with an Oath ; and, if they deny the Subftance of what I here advance, I call upon them to feal their Negation in the fame folemn Manner. At the Bottom of Page 49, where Mr. Bohbs, as. 1 apprehend, is clofing his Inftruaions for the Benefit of thofe who fail through Hudfotfs Straits and into the Bay, (an eternal Obligation he has lain on all Ma- nners) he fays, as to crofling the Bay, 'tis an Inti- midation of mine, becaufe there is no Neceffity for it in in going to the North- weft ward -, indeed if you winter at Churchill, you muft then crofs the Bay. No doubt this Gentleman, in his eafy Chair at home, is much more able to give Inftrudions than I dare pre- tend to be, who had but 23 Years Experience of this Bay. Tho' with fome this may remain a Doubt ; and others may not hefitate at faying he would make but a poor Pilot for the Safety of this Trade, and that he IS not at all acquainted with the Difficulties which oc- curr in this Navigation -, fuch, as that till withia thefe 10 Years we were not allowed to come round the N. End of Manfel'5 I/land, or between that and Carefs Swam Nfflt not even homeward bound ; nay it is Jt hundred to one if we are not lock'd up with Ice when outward bound, as has been often experienced by all Maftcrs in that Trade, who, after having been hemm'd in feveral Days, could not get clear from the Incumbrance of Ice, till to the Southward of Southampton. All the North Bay, between theN. End t)iManfel\ Nottingham, Mil IJles, Sea-horfe Point, and the North Main, are the Places laft clear of Ice ; and poffibly Traders to the Bay, who might enter- tain fuch an ill Opinion of Mr. Dohbs's Inftrudions, might referr him for the Truth of the above Fads to his Oracle Captain Fox, Now as all thefe Shores are commonly lined with Ice till the latter End of July, and fometimes till the Middle of 4uzu(l, it would be iwhiu lii isu . ijvuvi lu iiiiorm iijcn as iiiaii iiercatter go upon (f9) y^^l c- 4 ^j^^^t''^'' ^'^^ ^h^y "^"ft come to the Wdt Side of the Bay without croffing it, if they have not Gulltver*3 Flying Ifland. He goes on and informs the Navigators, that they have no reafon to believe that I was never able to arrive at the Fadlory before the 20th ofAutruJi in 27 Voyages, becaufe, accidentally, in his Majefty»i Ships, I fate out later tlian any of the Company's M-Tr^'rl'^^' by a Month (which, by the bye, is a Miftakeof Mr. Dohbs's) and arrived atCW/7/the 9th ofAuguJl, I anfwer with the old Proverb, One Swallow never makes a Summer, as a Proof, that Credit ought to be given to what I have advanced, and which he fays deferves none, I refer to fomp Journals I have by me, of which the Curious may have, whenever they pleafe, the Infpeftion. I have left them at the Union Coffechoufe in Cornbill As I have now been upon his Inftrudtions to Ma- nners, I beg leave by the bye to obferve the EfFeds of Difappointment and Anger, and fhew what Con- tradidions thefe have made a Gentleman of fine Senfe, and, as is apparent from this Conteft, of great Learning and Experience, guilty. In part of the Title ot his Remarks, he fays the Errors of my Chart are laid open, and my Accounts of Currents Straits, and Rivers confuted ; and in Page 70 of his entertaining Romance, mixt in with fome little Truth he has gathered from me to give it an Air of Confequence, he fays, " As there is now a more accurate Chart publiftied by Capt. Middle^ " ton^ with the Iflands, Soundings, Tides, and Va. nations, the Navigation will become lefs dange- rous daily, i^c:* Now if my Chart is more tc- curatc than any hitherto publilhed, why does he in u V ^''^"'^ °^ ^^^ Remarks undertake to (hew the Errors I have committed in it. TfmvT:^-. are juftiy obierved, why does he fay my Account or Currents, which he confounds with Tides, as I have ( (Jo ) have already fhewn are confuted in his Remarks. His next Accufation in the fame Paragraph and Page 50, is the harralfing my Men, who he tells us had a moft miferable flavifh Life, and gives tliefe three Particulars of their ill Treatment, viz. the Carpen- ters repairing the Company's Sloops ; the Armourer and his Mate working for the faid Company, and the Joyners being employed within their Fadory 5 and this I did, as he is pleafed to aver, under colour of an Order. I fay no j it was for his Majefty's Ser- vice that the Carpenters were employed, as it will evidently appear by a plain Narative of Matter of Fad. A fine failing SJoop of about 50 Tons be- longing to the Company, wanted a new Keel, one was carried from England and had lain two Years in the Country, but the Carpenter of the Fadory had not Skill enough to put it in. I who had confider, ed the many Accidents to which our Ships are liable in wintering, had before agreed with the Governour that in Cafe any (hould happen to either of the Ships under my Command, that this Sloop fhould be in Readinefs, in the Spring of the Year, to fupply her Place, for which Reafon I undertook to diredt and overfee with my two Carpenters this Repair made, which was finifhed in a Fortnight, while my People were digging a Dock, and I fatisfied the Carpenters at my own Expence. There were befides two large Boats of about 12 or 15 Tons each, which Mr. Dohbs has magnified into Sloops j the Governor lent us thefe to land our Provifions and Stores in the Fall, not under Colour of, but in Obedience to, the Order of the Company ; and as we did them fo much Da- mage as to render them ufelefs in the Spring, it was but juft and reafonable to repair fuch Damage -, nay, it was abfolutely neccffary for his Majefty's Service, as we Ihould want them again in the Spring, to put whau we landed on board ; the Confequence of which was a greater Difpatch on our Proceedings on the Difcovery, ( <^i ) ! Difcovery, than we could have made without them, by at leaft a Fortnight. The Armourer and his Mate in the Spring of the Year, (the Company*s Armourer bein^ dead, and their Smith deprived of the Ufe of his Limbs) did repair, while he had the Ufe of their Shop, fome old Fowling- Pieces, which the Govcrnour lent me for the Indians whom I em- ployed to kill frefh Provifions for the fick Men, the Arms belonging to his Majefty being diftributed among my own People to flioot for themfelves. The Governour having accommodated us with Lodging for my Officers, my felf, and fome few Men, our Joyner, for we had but one, tho* Mr. Dobbs fpeaks in the plural, lined the Rooms we made ufe of, built fome Cabbins, and did a little Work for the Governor, for the which he amply fatisfied him. Now this lining and building Cabbins were as abfolutely neceffary for his Majefty's Service, as repairing the Sloops and fmall Arms. What Work was done for the Governor by this Joyner, was as much for the Intereft of the latter as for the Conve- nience of the forme He fiys the Men who were obliged to take any liiing up of the Company's Fadlor, paid 300 pr Cent ; I anfwer, that this is nothing againft me ; ff the Company took Advan- tage of our Neceflities, let Mr. Dobbs make it an Article towards diffolving their Charter. As good an Underftanding as I had with them, they made no Difference between me and my Men ; I paid at the fame Rate for what I took of them, not only for my particular Ufe, but for that of his Majefty's Ships on the victualing Account. Mr. Dobbs, in the fame Page would infinuate, that the Company, on my Return, paid me 1 30 /. for havins made Slaves of the Men under mv Com- «-/ " "'"<• " — mand, and for my Overfeerlhip i by the bye, the Men, far from making any Complaint of Cruelty and Hardfhip from me, voucl) the contrary ; the - -y ( 62 ) the Carpenfcrs were paid by the Government accord- ing tocu lom, and I think I am not accountable to Mr. Dobbs for what Money I received ; it no ways i^garded the Difcovery, it makes no Alteration in lides and Currents, it forms no frozen Straits neither does it fill up any Openings : What Purpofe then of this worthy Gentleman can it ferve ? Does he blow hot and cold in the fame Breath,' and is touched with a Tendernefs for the Company's Inte- reft, which but a few Lines before, he taxed with Extortion. This compaffionate Gentleman accufes me with employing others of the Men in cutting down Tim- ber, i^c One would imagine by his Charge of fomc thoufand of Foot, that I had cut enough to build a bliip. 1 think he is here a little inconfiftent, the Cruelty he would infinuate, was by his own Con- fefTion a neceflary Work, for fitting the Ships in the Spring i but I will give him farther Reafons why the cutting of Timber, ^r. was unavoidably necef. lary. We could not be without Firing for the Men m the Winter -, and what properer Method could I take to get It, than that of falling Timber ? Befides how could we pofTibly have cut the Ships out of the Ice without a great Quantity of Wood to fhore them ? Could we otherwife have cut down to the Keel on each Side, and alfo under it ? Thus this Piece of Cruelty is no more than the Effea of my Care and Forefight, and a Proof of that Gentleman's Ignorance with regard to Sea Affairs. As to the 200/. paid me by the Commiffioncra of the Navy, which Mr. Dobbs fays, Page 50, was for the Slavery I had impofed on my Men, I an- fwer, that he very unfairly charges me with his own Dreams. I affert thac Gentleman does not knr:w. or which is 35 Htfinorpnimiiic rTknnonl^ „,I — .. t. ' , were, for which I was paid the above Siun. t fide Appendix. Vierc ( ^n Mr. Dohbs fays, in the fame Paragraph, he is cre- dibly informed that the Prefents I made to the Gover- nor, wpre Trifles, and greatly overballanccd by thofc I received from that Gentleman. Whoever is his In- former, I cannot think him a very credible Wit- nefs, as he muft fpeak by guefs. It is not reafonablc to beheve I fhould make a Declaration of what Pre- fents the Governor made me -, but if his Informer is Mr. ff^igaie, he contradicts the Account which he himfelf wrote and Signed. Page 51, in the fame Paragraph, he expefts to be informed how I could make 1400 /. in two Summers in the Hudfon*s Bay Company's Service. Mr. Bobbsy I hope will excufe me, if I think myfelf under no Obligation to gratify his Curiofity in this Point, as I never heard he was made Inquifitor General, an Officer we have not been harrafled by fincethe time of the Romans ; and as it is no way relative to my Roguery in concealing a Paflfage. With regard to the Computation he has made for me, it is idle and abfurd •, Part of it is built upon as abfurd a Charge of 1 20 /. perAnnunty from the Company, which I have already refuted and proved a falfe and ridicu- lous Aflertion. In anfwer to his next Paragrah, Page 51, in which he taxes me with Barbarity . nd Folly, I alk him if he has not wilfully and knowingly, to make good his Charge and expofe me to the Abhorrence of all hu- mane People, concealed the following Truth, that the Men, who were obliged to lye both on their Backs and Bellies, at different Times, to cut the Ice from under the Ship, had Planks or Boards under them ? Are not the Concealment of this, and the tax- ing me with making them lye upon the Ice, a vifible Proof of a ftrong Propenfity to calumniate. He in- t Search Comptrolers Office of the Navy. I 1 I- •ml Hnuates :l I 11 >■■!■: ( ^+ ) firiuates that the cutting out the Ship was by fo much the more a greater Piece of Cruelty, as it was need- lefs i and for the Reafon that it was fo, fays the Faaory's People, who faw this with Compaflfioii and Amazement, never meddle With their Veffth till the Ice is broke up in the River. Now this Rea^ fon is cither the Effeft of Artifice or Ignorance. When the Company's Sloops do not go to the North- ward, I allow that they lye in their Winter Station, till the Arrival of the Ships in y^uguji ; but when they go to the Northward, they are obliged to cut out -^s we were ; and the Sloop that wintered by us in the fame Cove, was fome Days a cutting out in the latter End Q^June, which both the Ship's Company can atteft •, fo that, as Mr. Hohhs fays. Nature does not, till about the 14th of June^ perform in kv^ Days what I kept the poor Fellows labouring at for neat two Months : But 'tis of Service to Mr. 'Dohh*% Caufe, • not to be too fcrupulous in his AlTertions f- Now if this Sloop was obliged to cut out, which drew but three Foot of Water, lay high upon the Bank, and had the full Power of the Sun upon her, a fortiori^ our Ships v*'hich drew from 7 to 1 1 Foot of Water, being bedded 23 Foot in the Ice and hard frozen Snow, made it neceflary for us to cut them loofc ; and if we had not done it, it was the Opinion of every one upon the Spot that the Ice would not have thawed under them that Year ; 'tis true, I fay, it was of no Service in forwarding us, but Mr. Bohhs ac- cording to his wonted Ingenuity, breaks off without my Explanation of what I then meant. Thefe ar& my Words : " After all, this was of no Service in " forwarding us 5 for being got into the Bay, we •* found all the Shore lined with Ice for many •* Leagues, fo as no Opening could be cntred * » t Witnefs the firtt Inlet we trycd, «r/x. Wagef^ where we were jammed up with Ice three Weeks. * See the Journal. If fhif r""^"'*!,'",' '''T *'=*'' Words, that they meant this Labour did not forward us in our Defign of Dif- lZT"^//'^^^t' ^y 8i''i"g "^ "" Opportunity to r„„ V \4 •"'^'^ •''"°"'=''> 'f '''^ preventing or Iceep- ing h,s Majefty's Ships a Year longer in that froL^n Chmate may be deemed fuch. I have now ftewn what .s the only Reafon Mr. DMs can give.te. To Oebar my Mtnfrom again undertaking the fame Voyage.) under rh^ n' 'S"P' VV° P'°^^ *« ^' « rather under the Direftion of Paflion than Reafon. He ri fv/t." ^"''■^^' '°''^'^' '■^"'d, and got out of might have failed out of it by the 25th, had it not b^n for contrary Winds. What does this Gentle- man mean by his Loading, if not to throw Duftinto he Lyes of the Public, by inlinuating that this Load- ing muft take up a confiderable time after the River was open ? If there had been any Loading, they might have taken it in Months before this Sloop was loofe from the Ice. Scroggs went upon a Dif. covery, and was m his Ballaft. Ag:.in, Scroggs failed two Days after the time Mr. DokhbA fet dfwn. I would fun alk that Gentleman, why lieafferts a Fa£t v,z. that the Ft^rnace might have failed out, &/. Srlri' n °'".''/ 'he.Anfwerof one of his own Party to Querry • 6 was impraaicable. I am afraid »L7f r 7"''* °f .'•''' + ^"^^" contradiaing what he h.-is advanced m this Paragraph ; if he hadT I may be excufed thinking, from the Candour of .he 1 reatment he has given me throughout his Book, he Queries ''^ '^o'he'-ed it, and loreborn printing the Firft Paragraph, Page 52, Mr. D^bk fiys the , i ii^ui iCt, «^'t. uinerwiie the i^ac- * yUi Remarks. f Moor's AnAver. tory'a h K I'l ( 66 ) aory^ Sloop would not have ventured in Shore among IQands and Openings. I will grant him that >?f ,„ '" '^^ ^^y' between ff^baie Cove and Churchill, was inconrv w:>>L.ic, hut Whale Cove U* ing among the in ds af i >mc Diftance from the Main, IS no Reaion for Inlets, Straits and Rivers not being incumbered with, and impaflablc for Ice. The Maftcr who fucceeded to Naper, on his Death at Whale Cove, could not, for the abo/. .:eafon get much farther to the Northward than the faid Cove as may be feen by the Journal in the Company's Pofleflion. , *^ '' I do averr, notwithftanding Mr. Moor*s Denial, that all the Shores within Marble I/land were faced with Ice, and all the Bay's full to the Northward of 63*' 20, as may be feen in Logg and Journal ; and the Bay between that and Marble JJlarJ, was alfo filled with Ice as we went out, tho' no Notice is taken of It as It is out of our Courfe i the Welcome and Wa^ ger were full of Ice from Side to Side till the fecond or third oi Auguft^ and when we were got out of Wager River, the New Strait and Repulfe Bay were half full, and the frozen Strait not broken up at all upon our Return the eighth o^ Auguji, as ap- pears by Reports, Loggs, and Journals. He is pleafed to fay in the fame Paragraph, that my being taft in the Ice for fome Days in September, is an in- timidating Evafion ; I fay, 'tis a Fad that all Jour- nals will corroberate. Captain Spurrel was fair off Manfel*s IHands 'till the 10th or 12 th of O.^ober on his Return Home, the very Voyage I wintered at Churchill 1 72 1 ; but Mr. Dobbs is as little able to itate Cafes as he pretends to do, and as ignorant of thofe Seas, Coafts, and Countries, which he has ro- mantically defcribed in his Chart and Account of Hudfon's Bav^ as a blind Man \% m \nAcrt» r.f r^u.,-- iince he builds upon every doubtful Authority of French Authors, Accounts which Experience have provtd U C( C( (C cc (^7 ) proved falfe, and has nothing he could afTuredly rely upon, for which he has not been obliged to me •, but 1 fhaJl dcmonllratc how idle, how injprobablc, or ra- ther impoflible is his State of the Cafe i To take his Words ; he fays, Pagi tt <( «c cc (I (C own vvoras ; ne lays, rage 52, - me ^.aie is w.,., It It falls calm in September, the Surflice of that Strait is every Night overfpread with a thin Covering of Ice a Quarter of an Inch thick, and confequently furrounds the Ship -, yet the Icaft Breath of Wind occafions the Ship's progreffive Motion,, and to break all to Pieces without any fenfible Hindrance to the Ship's PafTage." If thii was the Cafe, no body would venture that Way in September \ for if the Straits were to freeze over every calm Night, what Chance could they have for their Lives ? fmce I my felf have been becalmed there for near a Fortnight in that very Month, and freezing only a Quarter of an Inch every Night, I muft have been inclofed in Ice near four Inches thick for many Leagues round, which I believe would bd thought fufficienr to \^ir\ditx tht progreffive Motion oi the Ship : But the true State of the Cafe is this (fof that of Mr. Dobbs is an imaginary State of the Cafe) It never freezes in Hudfor^% Strait, the Bay, or in any fait Water, but firft from the Shores, and is as Mr. Dobbs fays, progrefftve. The Water muft be at- tached to fomething, or it cannot freeze in the Sea ; the Water that walhes the Ship's Sides in her Mo- tion will freeze, as i has a Body to faften to, and that Ice is again a conjealed Subftance, to which other Water freezes, and increafes in Proportion to the In- tenJenefs of the Cold j and thus by Cohtfioh are formed the innumerable and immenfdy large Iflanda of Ice, generated after they are broken off from ihd Shore, and launched into the Straits or Ocean. Mr. Dobbs charges me in the fame Pharagraph with a Contradiaion •, firft, he takes Notice that I i;iy none but Scroggs could get beyond the Latitude F2 of ii hi )' 4 J ■A 4 h iJl ■rl ( (58 ) of ^4". I have already anfwcr'd this, and fhewir^ that the poor Particle ast inadvertently inferted by my Amanuenfis, is the only Ground he has for his Triumph. 1 referr my Reader to Page 52, not to tire him, as Mr. Dobbs has me, with Repetitions. In the fame Paragraph, Page 52, he taxes me with a Contradiflion in the following Words: ** In his laft Paragraph, Page 44, he fays, if there was no Ice to prevent a Ship's pafling, about the latter End o^ Augujl^ yet the Gales of Wind and drifting Snow would put it out of all human Power to handle a Sail, or keep the Deck : Yet look on the other Side of the fame I^af, and you will find he tells you, that many Years Ships cannot pafs Hudfon's Strait outward bound before the latter End of Augufi, Upon the Whole, I think no two Pages, ever printed, can match thefe two of his, Pages 43 and 44, there being no lefs than 15 Falfities, Evafions, and Incoherences, in the Compafs of 58 fuccefTive Lines.** Now where is jhis Contradidlion, but in Mr. Dobbs's difingenuous Quotation, who has taken care to conceal from his Readers a Suppofition on which this Irapoffibility of handling a Sai}> or keeping the Deck, about the lat- ter End of Auguft^ is founded. I fay, * Page 43, that " many Years we cannot *' pafs the Straits, 6?^. before the Time lafl: men- tioned, without incredible Fatigue, and inceflant Danger both of our Lives and Ships.** All Ma- riners, who have ufed the Trade, and to whom I appeal as well as to Journals, know this to be Fa6t. The next Paragraph to this I beg Leave to tranfcribe, and two or three Lines of the following, viz. Now fuppoftng there was another Strait on the Weftern Coaft of Hudfon's ir Straits, or between Latitude 61° anci * /''/^i: my Vindication, Page 43. f This isaMiftakeof thePrefsj it Ihould have been Bay^ as is viiible from what follows. <( «( A*, (( (( 4( «« CC • ( as C .S. as Wa^er River runs N. 15° W. which is %6^ Difference from their Opcmug oppofite to Deer Sound. A very trifling Blunder this, of 86" in taking the Bearings. II Fide the Chart. F 4 Dirt, U 'lis ■ (^ ^Jl^ ? ' ; i i i ( 71 ) Dirt, which Mr. Dohh throughout his whole Per- formance has beftowM on ml with a very li£ al Hand With regard to Mr. ^Ua„, it is no more tiian a Proof of Mr. Do'.hS great Induftry ,0 dear uLn .°7 ^,7V°"' ''fer he has put the Publiclc upon a fruiilefs Expence, by malcing ufe of every Mean to throw the Mifcirruw ,^f fk,. ir ' ™. r I 1 , '""'••'f"''ge ot that Voyage upon me; for I couid not drop a Word, eveV in Uft wh.ch rime or other of his Spies, plac'd .'bout mefdid nor carry to h,m, and he did not interpret as a M tt r of Confequence. I am oblie'd therefore m .v!!i • what I faid to Mr. ^//.« as al^idic '°on Mr D& Infatuanon with regard to the Difcovery ofTpaf fage: He was then endeavouring (and till verV atdv nafendT "K"""\'°^"^^SetheGo:Lt^ in a iecond Tnal ; but as he did not find them murh mclin'd to gratify Jiim, I faid to Mr. X and ht Partner. th« if Mr. DMs could tfot gfn his pin v^thout pretending a Paflage, I could pu him IZ 'u^r^^' ""ght yet fin J one: I chd not exnbh, niyfe f farther, whither that Paflage mightTead '^C I had my Eye upon an Entry dLvef'd by L^ ' Sl^dLt^ar:fS;;,^fton^^^^^^^ a^d S"cr fSF'^-' ="°^- ana tnen a l-ool. I myfelf acqua nted th.it Gentle T:j:KwJ'''Mbr.'^ '^'"8 between Lll: rence-s R yer and Hudfcfs Straits, within which Compsfs lies Davii's Difcovery • and h nT^ belong'd to no civil.zed Nat 7n.' a lucrll'/rad.' forFurrs, Cod-fi(h, and Whale, might be therlcar md on; and I find he has fince made tWs A ou„; t:^^t^]-!^' '^^ — intgr Mr. Man, fome tim»- after the above ConverA ton, meeting me in «...«„ faid he had ..cZnted Mr. DMs with what I h4d advanced to him^nbTura (7i) Paffage^ I afked him, what Paflage ? He anfwerM the Paffage we had been to difcover. To whk^h f reply'd, he was quite niiftaken. He then L know IVlr. DMslom call upo^ hk. a^'^W LT w,th relation to the Difcourfe n'entionM. I anfwe" 'd rato^r.,:]?!n;^Sfif^r S'f w"l!^' ^"^ CandourXS; ^^tL^Z latisfy d. 'W ,th regard to Thmpfin and ^W^ what I &d IS mifreprerented. I hav/often told M 'jt f he had any Regard for Mr. DoUs, he ousl tm Z' hat Gentleman know, that if he rel ed upon the In formation o/^^^,, and TimpM and pnfted thine, tmlT"-'^ ^' ^°'^^ ''""^'^ CharaC for "h? Falftood might march in the Front. Truth would certainly bring up the Rear, and Difgrac wou d M upon herEnem,es: Mr. 0.r, Partner with Mr 5/ fuch Expreffion ; and no one will call that Genrr man's Veracity in qucftion. Mr OT and Mr ? ruk have faid the fLe thing, both « Mr. t^ Mr. Orr; and it was fheir r<».ii o • • -"-'"«« *«na on .heirbehevingXhtrt,: ^°S/,Xed' and fince given under their Hands) thatlwrand mmffoii were the worft of Men Mr J/rff . have a Dependance on him , their Reg ^d to TrutJ and Juftice is the fole Reafon that'couid have J^::"c^otrXTh-;L^rc^r''^^^ I^ paf^^^ver his Repetition of Bribery, as already n p -iff an t ^■^^^v'c/i's Bay, Letter, Mr. I I I n- (-4) Mr. Dohhs fays my Anfwer to the Charge oF be- friending the Company, and concealing a Paflage, without any one difcovering fuch Concealment, is entirely falfe : This Falfity appears by the Surgeon's and Clerk's Affidavits, their Anfwcrs before the Ad- miralty, and by the Confirmation of the Lieutenant. 1 hope he will excufc me, if I here take the Liberty to contradi6b him, and affirm my Anfwer in my Vin- dication is Truth, and nothing but the Truth ; and if I here follow his Example, and fet my Affirma- tion againft the Affidavits of his two Witnefles aiid the Confirmation of the Lieutenant, tho' with more Charity than Mr. Dohbs has treated the Perfons who have appeared in my Defence, and fealed the Truth of what they advanced with their Oaths : I will not tax the Surgeon and Clerk with wilful and corrupt Perjury, or the Lieutenant with confirming a prc- penfed and deliberate Falfity j I am willing rather to believe, what they have fworn and faid were the Ef- fe(Sts of a Millake *, for one Letter changed will make this terrible Accufation fall to the Ground. My Words were, (and they are confirmed by Mr. Moor, who is a Partizan of Mr. Dobbs) that I could make the PafTige, ^c *, Mr. Dobhs^ as it is more to his Pur- pofe, in fumming up this Gentleman's Evidence, Page 84, Article 12 f , has changed the c to ^7, faying, that he, Mr. Moor, had heard me more than once fay I wotdd be able to make the Paffage ♦, where- as Mr. Moor declares, Page 165. of Rf^marks, that he had heard Captain Mtddleton fay more than once, that he could make the Paflage, and no Man on board of him fhould know whether there was one or not. Now is it probable I fliould fay I would be abu . Or, if I had faid fo, would any one have underfl:ood me ? I'his would referr to a Time paft when I made fuch * Fi(/e Page i6?p. Query 4, -|- rUe his RcDurks of Mr. Dobli's Remarks. Declaration (7f ) Declaration •, we muft therefore fuppofe 1 f.ud f foea'^. ■ng then m the Time prefcnt) iJHe ««, X 1 1 downright Nonfenfe, or implies my Defign' of so ng to School again to make myfelf able : So that «rant .ng that 1 aftually faid I v^ould h able, Mr SX with all his Art and unfair Qnotation, can mike nd .J^^t } ^^'^ *•'" '°, "''* ^"''" "•= Vanity of his two Afficavicmen, and of the Lieutenant, (who C confirniM what they have fworn) when they vainly boafted their Knowledge, by reproaching them with their Ignorance Stupidity, and Avetfion fron" bdnj mftruftcd. I fclemnly declare, to the befl o(Z Remembrance, I never thus reproach'd thera in th'e Hearing of any who belong'd to tiie Company : But grant I had expos'd them before all the Faflory, one woud think Mr. p,M,, who has given throughot ReliTr^'' fl='S'-^« Proofs of having a Lng Rehfh for Calumny, might excufe a little Ill-natur? in me, efpecially when accompany'd with Derna.on if not allowing a Knowledge they did not pofll-fs can deferve that Appellation. I need fay no more on this Article > and to his charging me 'with Sfriend- ng the Company, I have fufficiently anfwered that .n my Vindication Page 49 , however, tofatisfy IV^ ZWix, allowing h,m again wcm'd for cou'd, 'tis only a Proof that I deftgn'd to aft like an honeft Lnd gratZ fjilMai, to my former Mafters: It is vifible,^f™nv heir Letters to the Lords of the Admiralty f, th« «1 T^T't '■ i^^^rioping Tnade would be car- riul on CO their Prejudice i and, as I was refblved- to iuffer none, I might very v, - llfay I would be a better i-nend to the Comp.iny tl an they expefted. I could .ilive, iind could beappeal'd to: But I fliajl not copy f r;Vagm*d. It was from the firft of thefe Books, bf Mr. Dobbs deceiving the Confidence I had repofed in nim, that Mr. Smiib was enabled to make a Lift of, and to purchafe Goods proper for, the Trade ( for Mr. Smiih returned me thefe Books, when he accom- panied Mr. Dobbs in a Vifit he made me) j and Mn Dobbs has fince publifhed, in his Quarto Romance, an Abftrad of thefe very Books, which I entrufted to him under the Seal of Secrecy, and with a De- pendence on his Honour. Now would any Man, whofe Anger had not entirely deprived him of Rea- lon, and all Senfe of Confcience and Honour, tax me with having given him a Lift, out of which he had thus inck*d me ? I am forry I can ufe no gentler and equally expreffive Term. Mr. Smilb talk'd to me once of giving his Brother a Trifle, to the Value of 30 or 40 J. to purchafe fomc ImaJl Curiofities in the Country 5 but 1 returned him Ro Anfwer. Allowing, however, I had contented to ir, this was not a Cargo to hurt the Company •, nei- ther is It a Proof that upwards of 100/. woxth of Goods were ftiipped with my Confcnt, Privity, or Approbation : Thefe three fynonimous Words are, as I fuppofe, linkM together to give a greaterWeight to the Charge, and a more agreeable Flow to his Pe- riod. But this is fo far contrary to the Truth, that I never knew what was fliipp'd on board the Difcover^ Pink, till the Mafter, Mr. Moor, acquainted me at the Orkneys. Mr. Smith, when he came to take his Leave of me at my Houfe in Raidif, I acknow- ledge, put an unfealed Letter into my Hand the In- ftant I was going away, which I afterwards found wa5 an Account of his having fliipp'd two fmall Kales ot Goods. But he was then fo confcious that I would not have confented to the receiving them on board ( 79 ) board one of his Majefty's Ships, that in giving me the Letter he defired I would throw it among my other Papers, that were in a Pillow-cafe at hand %.ng „ was from himfelf. and infinuating thwl contained httJe more than Direftions how Imisl wrue to h,m I accordingly threw it m among oh Papers, and never thought more of it, till I forted n y Papers at the Orkneys, where Mr Mol com- rIc .Tl ^'?!!S'r8 to Mr- Smith, which were two Bales and two Chcfts : The latter by the bye no No" W- 'I '"^Tf. V^' above-mentioned Le^r Mr m^fe and Mr. Gill were prefent ; the former reid « thrp""' '"r ' f 'i-T^" n'yfe'f 'o him™ Words think me weak enough to allow his fending out fuch a Quantity of Goods, when I. who have Money ly- mg out at 3 per Cent, would carry none myfelf^ If endtlt? Trl"'^', ^'^ to be made. I thought myfelf entitled to make it preferably to any other, fince I was anfwerable as much for their Conduft a fo my anT'let tLT''^ ^'' ^"'^ '° ^''''e care of them! ^H^-„„ f , "l^P"' '" =* '^'f'= P'^ce out of die way. adding, furely Mr. Smith does not know that fuch wSm? r f "-djn.che King's ^rS: To to thit Effe^"^" p "■'Pu'i '' ""^ ^"y true, orWords w/ , fl^-, . ^°' •''= Truth of this I appeal to Mr ^'Sate, Mr. Mm. Mr. Gill; and, if I atn call'd her-idrn/f '^ "1-"''""8 to a^teft all t"e F b cr nh h?fn • '" o"*^" '° '^' calumniating Para- fn the morfo^' ^'!f ^\°^^^' ^*'^ R^'-^ks Mr n ; / "'", ""'' ^"thentick Manner. Mr. Z)oMj, ,n his next Paragraph of the f.m, double Game. This is a r!irp/:> p i, , ^^ P^'^Y '^ ?;---i^^^c;iLyn^;hlT^;;;:!':'frp;! °" """" "«-""»«« iyrants, firll ftwing them up < Ji&!( «^!, Ifi Am < ( 80 ) Up in Bears Skins, and then b.ilting them. But I fcferr my Readers to the Company's Letters f fof fuch an Order ; Which will not only be a full An* fwer to his Charge of Corruption, Concealments, in- finuated Bribery, and Combination, but mufl throw Mr. Dohbi into the litinoit Confufion, when his Paf- fion fubfide.% and he recovers the r^ght Ufc of his Rcafon. He builds mucii upon the Order, fwhich he unfairJy fays was gotten by my Application to the Admiralty) to protrcl the Company's Trade, and which, from tht Rekrence I have made, will prove a groundlefs and malicious Accufation. But Jet us fuppofe that I never had any fuch particular Order, yet was it included in the general and printed Inftru- aions given to every Commiffion Officer in his Ma- jefty's Service, viz. " That FJagg Officers, and " Commanders of his Majefty's Ships, are to be careful to maintain his Majefty's Honour upon all Occafions -, giving Proteftion to his Subjefts, and endeavouring, what in them lies, to fecnre and encourage them in their lawful Commerce ; and they are not to injure in any manner the Subjefts of his Majelly's Friends and Allies." Hence it ]% evident, that I had no manner of Occafion to apply for a particular Order in favour of the Company, which proves not more extenfive than this general one given to all Commanders; confequently this Phantom, which Mr. Dohbs has conjured up, of a Combination, &fc. vaniffies. He fays, the Day after this Order (which he will have of my procuring) the Company gave me a new Letter to the Moor Fa« 6^^»ry. Thi;i is a falfe Aflfertion ; it is indeed charo-. ing me at random ; it is being regardlefs of his own Reputation ; which I can attribute to nothing but the Strength of his Refentment, upon a cruel and gaulingDifappointment, and to his anxious Struggles f Vide the Company's Letters. «< 4C «( Ct «c CO ( St ) to diTciiIp himftlf, by endeavouring to load' me with the fnfamy of i Breach of Truft j for he had Oppor- tunities enough of bting betttr informeJ than, I am afraid, he dc^fired to be. Had he enquired at the Admiraky, he would there have learned that the Company, fo far from giving mc a Letter the next D.iy to the Moo/e Fadtory, as he boldly.aflerts, that they never gave me any Letter at all, the firlt ex- cepred, which Mr Dobhs has taken care to print in his Remarks, and is .lich a one as I obj dcd to, fuch a one as I would not accept, as indeed it was of no ufe but in the moft imminent Danger, of which their Servants abroad were to be the Judges. At tlie Ad- miralty he would have farther learned, that not only the Letter he mentions in my Appendix, but Letters to all the Fadories of the fame Tenor and Date, were direded (not given to me) to the Lords of the Admiralty, by the Interpofition of the Lords of the Regency ; and ftill farther, that I received thefe Let- ters, together with my Inftruftions and other Papers from their LordHiips at the Galleoh's Reach, confe- quently could not communicate them to Mr. Dohbs, had there been a Neceffity for the two followin<^ Reafons : That Gentleman went for Ireland the very Day after the Date of that Packet of Letters, In- Itrudions, fsfr. from the Admiralty, viz the 29th of May * 1 74 1 ; and had he been in London, as I was a Stranger to the Contents of thofe Letters and Orders till I had received them, it was not in my Power. That worthy Gentleman fays, Page S9y I had probably warmer Letters to Churchill Fadory, which I thought proper ic conceal, ^c. Now the firft Part of this IS a Surmize which betrays borh Malice and Ignorance. My Letter to the Moofe Factory was as neceflliry as thofe to Churchill, Tork Fort, and Maney Vide Psge 52 of Mr. Dohht'i Remarks. \ J for IMAGE EVALUATION TEST TARGET (MT-3) ^v <^"^/% t 1.0 ^«a I I.I 1.25 141 |28 2.5 2.0 14 1116 Hiotographic Sciences Corporation 23 WEST MAIN STREET WEBSTER, NY. 14580 (716) 872-4503 u, % b f^i i-l ( S2 ) for the Prcfervation of his Majefty's Ships and the Lives of his Subjeds, for the more Northerly Ri- vers rnight have been locked up by Ice •, and in fuch Cafe, in Confcquence of this Letter, I had a Refource at Moofe Fadory, where the Winter commences three Weeks later. The other Part is an unfair un- gentlcmanlikc Suggeftion. Page 60, he gives an Account of a private Con- verfation, in which, injuftifying my Condud, I Jet drop this Remarkable Expreffion, llat I had only 9ne thing which I could blame myfelf for doingy which was, correfponding with Mr. Dobbs wh^n I was in the Company's Service, I think for his own Sake, Mr. Dobhs, had I faid this, Ihould have con- cealed it, fince his having given the World fuch good Grounds, by expofing and endeavouring to give a finifter Turn to all that I ever faid or wrote to him, is a fufficient Reafon for my repenting that I ever believed him a Man of Honour : But I abfo- lately deny that ever I faid any thing like it. As to his private Thought in the Remainder of that Para- graph, it is below all Notice. His next Paragraph is only to fwell his Book, nothing at all to the Purpofe. Ail that I can gather from it is this. It fpeaks his Difappointment of hav- ing nothing but the Name of a cold Cape, inftead of an advantageous Return from the Goods (hipped on Board the Difcovery, which he now denies having been any ways concerned in. What Return could he expedt from me, but for the fake of paltry nine Guineas, that I fhould connive at the clandeftine Trade defigned to be carried on under the Name of Smith ,? Mr. Ihbbs, in his Paflion, has got into fuch an hiftorical Vein, that he feems every where to have fhaken Hands with the Truth, and to have mo- nopolized the Privilege of Travellers. Thefe nine Guineas, which I offered to repay him, were but four and a Half, fix iox the Attorney. Gcncrars Fee, and (8? ) roia me ; and half of this, as by Agreemenr. 1 1™ dered h.m. and am ftill «ady\o pay him or h^. Order upon Demand. Now'the Realbn of fuci jn tne i-urr Trade, and to fit out a Ship to that EnH but 1 refufed having any thing to do witL ifS? Counfei^ Advice. Mr. Z>.»7 brought me a CW of the Charter «hich Mr. Smith mo^ Z and .Se Attorney-General's Opinion upon it at the tTm, h- Sle Tad '' ,T "r" ' '-'^--S'one" ^f whenThe'ftvt ,^'^V57 °^^" QiJ^'o Romance, wnere he fays, the Account t contains was tnt.n «>t of Captain MJdk,,^, Book. am ap"to bT ^eve h.s Anger to me w.,s a little quaHfied by tl Pkafure he took in writing that Linfey- WoJfey Cw! leftjon of Truths and Fafftoods, or he wou?^ ™^' His !aft Paragraph, Page 60, is built upon a Sun rafler hf 7 '° endeavour to ruin a Man's Cha- Te ca Is P™fe!^.'"S >»» own Surmizes, xipon what ne calls Probabilities 5 upon groundlefs SuppoHtionL Inferrences drawn from them 1 upon falfe laftsTn tes^'chfc?"'"^"'^ and ConcluLs on S%t m"an S^tr? ^' '"'"''''"8 °f ^no^n Truths, and mean bubterfuges, contrary to a 1 Councils RetLir/c Journals and Affidavits of Men who were iHS other Fo,l/ •'"'"' "*" '•'^ Accufations have no aCs aniX l'- /.'■ "\'™",'y ^Snorant of Sea Xt he hf n f "li" ^''^""Shout condradifted wiwt he hw Hgncd and given into the Adroiraltv! 'f'wi; t i\ t- u 2 and V ( U) and again by his new Reports contradi*5ls bis former. In Page 6i, tho* he is convinced by the Anfwer of his Friend the Lieutenant to Qjcrry 20 of the Flagrancy of his unjuft Charge with rehition to my Threats of breaking open Boxes, and taking away Books and Papers of fuch as kept Journals, yec he endeavours to get off from the Reproach due to fo unfair and fo ungentlemanhke a Procedure (nnci at the fame time tofaften fomeof the Dirt he fo plc-nti- fully flings upon me.) By this poor Evafion no Ivxly pretends I durft hinder the Lieutenant and Maftcr from keeping Journals ; but it was the Surgeon and Clerk whom Lfufpected of keeping Journals , and making Obfervations ridiculous to the laft Degree. To this I fhall borrow an Anfwer from an ancient Mythologid : A Wolf and a Lamb hap}iened to drink at one and the fame River, the former deter- mining to devour the latter, but willing to have fome Pretence for his Cruelty and Iiijultice, in a threatning Tone accufcd the Lamb of muddying the -Water; the meek Animal reply'd, " Confuler Mr. *' Wolf, this is impoflible, as the Stream defcends •* from you to me.** Convinced by this Evidence, he dropt that AccuHuion, and to pick a QuarreJ, taxed the trembling Creature with having curfcd and treated him with opprobious Lanj^uage three Months before that Time : The Lamb replyed, I have not been fo long yean'd j however fiid the Wolf, if it was not you, it was fome of your Relations that curfed me J and on this unjuft Charge fell upon and devour- ed the Lamb. In the fiime Page Mr. Dobbs fays, none taxes the Captain about his not inftruding or improving his Men in the navigating Part ; his Capacity is not in Queftion, it is his Integrity is Doubted, from his being blinded by the Company. It is true, and I believe Mr. Dobbs had been very well pleafcd if I had had not brought this Proof of my Integrity ; for if averv ^tf; n '".'''• '° '"'°'''' ' "'"ft have been timTtoS„A %^'7 f deavoured. at the fame time, to inftriKft my People how to deteft me. To this repeated Charge of the Company, I have already fatd enougl, In the fan,e Paragr ph he fay .h^ Evidence of the Mafter is of no Weight^nd why ' ttfaid Mlh""'''^ f P'^^'"''' roundly^o a/TcrtX mv Drf™. •^"'^7 *'' "" E^^fi""' "nd rather him. qmte different from what lie own'd upon Ex- amination before the Admiralty. Is no°Ms"v,ry convincing Proof, and ftifficieJ: to Ike .he mIS lofe all future Credit > If Mr. Dobh expefts that phut Faith, why has he given himfelf the Trouble nl^ I'f f""^ ^ '""^'""^^ 'hem oy Evidence ? he need only have afferted that I am guilty of the Ro- f "^^ '^^•'"^'S^' "hicn I had aaually difcovercd. If bare Affertions, to what End does he fo boldly and fo often advance them ? But, a bold Affertion may wKh credulous, honeft Men, who would nouhTm- fclvesbe guilty ofa Falfity. meet with Credit , how- ever vakat ^antum vaUre Poleft : 'Tis of Confe q^.ence to a bad Caufe to throw a great deal o'f ?r nh' Tl r^y P°"'''''y "'*• Hi' "^'^t Para, graph which he carries over to Page 62, has been already anfwered. He alks why I would fian a ^le Flood jutt commg on for the Beat to go up the R.ver. which could not get out but at flack Tde on vX" in th C " "'f'f "S '■'<= Ship all round (wher^ vve l,iy m the Cove of Savage Sound) the Hurry occa- fionec my overlooking the Error, when I fis^l h" Older, and would not allow Time for writmg nno- ■;: G ther Jd'i. '■K ( 86 ) ther withoat I had refolvcd to lofc twelve Hours, which I hope he will own was not for the Service I was fentupon. Mr. Dohbs tells us, that notwithftanding the Ebb rrtade out Eafterly, (^c. yet in a Strait, a Weftern Tide might have met them farther Weft ; here is one of that Gentleman's Probabilites, and is juft as probable as our meeting a Flood from the yitlaniic Ocean at Putney Bridge. We try'd above thirty Leagues up PFager River, and found about half way from the Entrance the Water at moft but brackifh j our People drank » and made Broth of it with their Peer's Flefh. The Papers in the Margin referred to, anfwer this Paragraph, and prove the Sti eight a frefli Water River. However, this next, by an additional Account from the Lieutenant, has gained Mr. Dobbs a compleat Viftory, by putting it out of all Difpute that the Wager is undeniably a Strait^ &c. ^hcn the Queries were drawn up. We may fuppofe by this fubfequent Information, that neither the Lieutenant, nor even Mr. Dobbs himfelf, knew what Anfwer, to feveral of them, were of Ufe to his De- fign, and therefore his Refpondents often make them in a very laconic and general manner ; but the time they have fince had, together with the AfTiilancc of my Chart and Reply ^ have enabled them lo put it out of all Difpute that they are extremely ignorant. In the firft Place Mr. Dobbs fays, / mujl have been told that it was a Flood from the IV. S. fT. In the additi, Onal Account the Lieutenant fays, that he was convin* ted that the Ttde which flopt the Boat, and brought her to a Grapnel, was aftrong Flood-Tide from the W, N, fF, How then, and by whom muft I have been told that the Flood was from ;he W. S. W. Secondly, in his firft Report, as alfo in the Mafter's, there is no Mention of any Strait or Flood-Tide, tho' Notice • 5fc %*5 AfRdavIt, and Priah Report. II i$ ( B; ) IS taken of a Water Fall •, but in this rupplimental Account, we have the Difcovery of a Jarge and fpar cious Strait leading away to the Southward of the Weft or W. S. W. or more Southerly by Compafs. He is indeterminate in the Account of the Courfc of this Strait, it cannot be through Forgetfulnefs, be- caufe he fays expredy he kt it by Compafs ; it is therefore to fervefome End, which vifibly is to bring his imaginary Paflage to the Southward of the Weft, inftead of the Probability of an Opening to the Eaft, as IS mentioned in the faid joint Report. When Mr. Dobbs would have moved the Lieutenant's Bluff Point from the Eaft to the Weft Side o^ t^ager Ri- ver, he took care to allow for the Variation, tho' the Lieutenant fays exprefty by Compafs. Now that he would have a large and fpacious Strait tranf- ported more Southerly, his Obfervation is by Com^ pafs. But is not here a palpable Alteration for Mr. Dobbs's Purpofe 5 and does not this different way of obferving with Variation or Compafs, appear a low mean Coilufion ? The Reafons given in this new Account by which ^e Lieutenant was convinced, that there was a ftrong Flood Tide from W. N. W. a judicious Man wiU fay are no Reafons at all ; for granting he altered the Land very much until he met the Frcfh or Water fall againft him, that the Boat then fell a Stern by coming nearer to the Cataraft, and that it flowed fix Foot, as the Lieutenant fays 5 thefe are no more than what may be obferved in all Rivers. When you come to the End of the Flood-Stream, the Water fwells feveral Foot, tho' the frelh Stream runs ftrong againft you ; this may be Teen every Tide of Flood at London Bridge, and continues for near ^ Tide, till the Flootl meets the ebbing Stream, and they come to an horizontal Plane. It is vifible the fudden turn- ing of the Tide or Frefh againft him, can be afcribed to nothing but his getting nearer to the Catarad, where G 4 jc I » •.! . f 88 ) It might nm ag.iinn: him twice as M as the Boat went a-head, tho' they had a good Breeze of Wind. The Mountain was in Labour, and hns brought forth a ridiculous Moufe. Can any one read the cxulrincr nianncr in which Mr. Dobbs ulliers into the World this Deftmaive Report, which was to metamorphofc ^^^••r River, making it a Strait, and not . xccpc Conviction from every Line, if not every Word ' And can it be read without Aaonifl)ment, that a Man of Scnfc, could build upon fuch poor Stuli; and hope it would go down with the Public ? Hut lie w;as upon the Subject of the Difcovery, and that wa^ incompatible with cool Refleaion. It would be affronting the Underftanding oFmy Readers, to point outby any ComnxMit the Coutradiaions contained in thefe Repoits,and Mr. Dobbs*s introdudory ReHcxions upon the latter, in which there are no lefs than four Fointsofthe Compafs difference, hisdelufive manner of introducing or throwing out the Variation, as it may fcrve his Purpole, is obvious even to the meaneft Capacity. What I have already faid in anlwcr, is really doing this Paragraph, and the Lieutenant's Keport, too much Honour. I refer my Reader to Mr. Gufsf Affidavit, whom Mr. Dobbs allows a Witnefs of Confequence. What he fays in the next Paragraph, Pape 6^, with regard to the Saltncfs of the Water, has been ^r-'^^^r^"'^"^, ' ^ ^*'" °"^y ^b^^r^e three Things, L ^k'* ^. "^^ ^''""^ ^^^y ^^' -^^^^^'s Word for it, that the Mafter's Anfwer with regard to this Particular, being quite contrary to what he own'd to him, and very different to what he fhid before the Admiralty, vtz. That it w.is brackilh at thefartheft Place they were at. Seco;:dly, that Mr. Dobbs, Page 64, tells" us, that the Lieutenant expreHy faid it was fait, tho' his Words are, The ff^alcr, J think, vf as fait, but as I f Fide Appendix, Anfwej- tQ Quiry the ^rft. is, ■^culd ( 89 ) wuM ,wl intWely deptnd on my own JmhmtnU I filUi lhre> lioItU, a, three different Places, a„d Lmht them on Board at my Return, and wa told therTZt there ^as no D.Jl.mon, for they were all equally X fait. Now by ,he bye therewere but two ^.tT, How doe, Mr mis ,,lay ofFthis poor weak Mni what a Tool does he make him ? In his Anfwer to Qiierry 2od,, he !,s diffident whe.l,er I difcou3 noTAvT'r',"^ «'!■=-"? or not •, Indeed l,c S tertnt Opinion , and here the poor Man will not m,ft ,o h>s own Tafte whether the Water ir' It or not, he rehes on the Opinion of others who told 1 im they were all equally (Idt ; the Confequence of wS vr^ir^ •■""^Z," ?''"'"'y «■'"' ' ^° that d,^ X- it waTf ? or n- ""° "^'' '° '''"'"g"'* ^''"hcr unite fren,n.' '^?fT'"""S P^of that it was r h,„ T"',;^^,^'"" '^'•- ^''>'" thinks I ouRht to have got the Mafter to have fworn, when he was fweanng, to this material Point of the FreCrrof the Water, where he is quite f.lent. B«t are A&ia clav,ts of „„y Weight with hin, ? Will he al^f A A ^°"^P""'on witli his own bare Affertion Worcs°"/^ "S 'm'H' "^"^ "y "- Sneer fS done • K "'J^''^"- ^^^ fi^earinsr, that had he done It, he (hould have efteemed hit Oath of no (^l ■ ^'^^%^' his Affirmation, as he is a Man t \r^^ ^^^'^^''^ ^"^"'"' in his A rterto Sound was frejher, and the higher up the fre/bernill neft Marrn^''*^"' '""^ ". '■"^^-t^one 4.h n ho: nelt Man, for my not requiring his Affidavit. But i faond IS, there are other Affidavits * and Report to • m Cuf, Affidavit i„ the Appendix, ,nd PnVs Report. corroborate i id .'I ( ^0 ) corroborate what he faid, one of which, who is not fo diffident of his Palate as the Lieutenant, fwears pofi- tirely by his Tafte. No, replies Mr. Dobh, ihefc are not the Rcafons : He durft not fwear flagrantly againft bis former Declarations^ leaft it would ( I fup- pofe, he means fhould) invalidate what Capt. Middle- ton ^0/ W»i tojwear againfl the Surgeon and Clerk \ which, by the bye, Mr. Dobbs^ tho* he feems to have forgotten, he in a great meafurc acknowledges to be true. Page yy of his Remarks, In the next Paragraph, Page 64, he defends the Bull I tax him with. I acknowledge it was trifling in me to take notice of it, but however, it has had this Effefk, that it has Ihewn how able a Man Mr. Dobbs is at Evafion. Notwithftanding this Hiber- nicifm remains as ftrong as ever, for he could have no Notion of Openings, had there been no Openings difcovered. Part of his next Paragraph, Page 64 and 65^ is not worth Notice, and the reft is anfwered, as are the two following. In his laft Paragraph, Page 6$ and 66^ he tells the Public that I fay, to ufe his own Words, •• "What •• Norton faw, which he would now transfer to his •* Carpenter, was cither fVager River or an Inland «* Lake, which he, Norton^ faw Southward of the «• Weft from PHjalebone Point, How inconfiftent or ** inconfiderate is this Anfwer ? H^alebone Point is «« m 640 ss''^ and the Entrance offf^ager River in *« Cs"* 24', and from thence it runs up N. W. How •« then could he Norton fee it Southward of the ** Weft." In the firft place, I do not transfer to Nortotfs Carpenter what Norton faw ; I fay, if I rightly remember, &c. this fhews I fpoke in doubt j fLTid in the next Place it was eafy for him, Norton, or his Carpenter, to fee a large River or an inland Lake, as they travelled 15 Miles in Land after fomc Deer, is nocfo ars pofi- ?•;, ihefc Ugrantly ( I fup- Middle- I Clerk \ i to have ;es to be fends the s triBing has had ian Mr. s Hiber' Lild have )pcnings id 6^^ is li as are I tells the • What :r to his 1 1nland d of the iftent or Point is River in ^ How . of the insfer to ay, if I doubt ', Norton^ \ inland ;er feme Deer, (91 ) per, and ic is not above 30 Milci over from WhaU hme Bay to fVager River, they having goThff Way i and being upon very hiffh LanH rL i! they had not a, |ooTEyes i ^rd^^,:^''to could difcover Openings clear of Ice aTio 'or z Leagues D.ftance. If they arc miftaken in the Bearings four or five Poinds without a Solaf, t IS more excufable in them, who were La^Ten han ;n the Lieutenant who is miftaken feven P^n"; Tcomni ?.^'^l^'^!r8^°^ ^ Bluff Point wkh age, Mr. Dobhs will have Inventions of my own have lef^lhi. r i^'"' ''^'" "^^""^ ^^'^ '^^^ to F^ion ^'"^^^'"^^ room to cavel with my His Repetitions in the next Paragraph arc already anfwered. and in the following he accufes m3 regard to my keeping the ShiiS in Sava.'cZ Z continues he, there is a finer HSrbour neafl) J w ft^c from Ice and from thence he could have gone be a Judge of what he fpeaks to, before he oaffS Sentence ; I fay and fo will every Winer, tha^t my Anfwer IS full and to the Purpofe ; and what ffi advanced, confirmed by all jLnals. I ad mt thai the Harbour near Deer Sound was all free fr^m cf but the Paffage to it fo lock'd up from^dlTs d"' that ,t was with great Difficulty the Boats were S up and down ; how then would this Gentleman have hTulXKr '''P^ -V^^y-^her, could ^e S hauled the Ships over the loe as we did our Boats ihould not I have gone contrary to my Inftruftion ' ?elinTa'p.r* ^'''4 I, Handle to Leu fern^^^^^^^ Page ••!«1 1* I' i'l ■ «jW 1 t' J i i i' (91 ) Page 57, Mr. Dobbs taxes me without the lenft Hcfitation, with having pcnnM the Maftcr's An- fwcr to the Charge brought againll me for not let- ting the Lieutenant take away a Man who pcrfc-aiy undcrflooii the Northern Indian Language ; I fay •tis falfc, tho* pombly the Dilating to his Witneflcs whatever may make for his unjuftifiable Purpofcs, may, and indeed feems to have been his Pradticc ; and I think fome of the Jaconic Anfwcrs to the Queries, and the Alterations of the Lieutenant's Re- port, in a manner demonftrate it. His Caufe may want an artful Support, but mine, which is that of the Truth, (land in need of none. The Perfon whom the Lieutenant would have taken away (tho* I do not know by what Authority) was John Buttler ; and I am glad Mr. Dobbs allows that he perfedly underftands the Northern Mian Language, as his Evidence will prove that Gentleman's having impo- fed on the Public by printing a Vocabulary of that Language. At the End of his Quarto Romance, he fays the Indian that I took was but a very bad In- terpreter, but however, I had a Surgeon who wrote the Indian Didlionary, juft now mentioned, to amO: this Interpreter, which Mr. Dobbs ought to have con- fidered. He alks me why I required Leave to take this Man along with me ? I anfwer, becaufe I would not depart from the Admiralty Orders. What he calls my Subferviency to the Governor in faluting the Forts, ^c. was in Obedience to my printed In« ftruaions. Page 85, under the Articles of Salutes ; but notwithftanding, for Fear I might miftake and do wrong, I confulted my Officers on Board, and fent the Lieutenant afhore with a Letter to the Go- vernour before we went in : Thus if I have erred, it was not without the Advice of People bred up in the Navy. There is nothing more in this Paragraph worcby ot the Jeaft Notice. Mr. (9.? ) ^r.^h" °t' '?""■"''• »'^' ''"■> "' '''^ "-ir,! I'M. graph, with denying Part of Query ,7,1,, and WKh not anAvcring the latter Part5f it ; as ,0 the former, the Matter as well as I. and even his IViend ,' hn-^K^' ri"V" '"u J"'"'"'''' ^"'y '^' r^K deny it, tho the Clerk, who mull be allowed of fuperio? Judgment ^pprMs the contrary. That Part wluch I did not anfwer, is not worth the Icaft Reulv dicaJJoriT'' ^'°""^'''''' ""'' '"° P--"^^'' i" ">/ Via-* in ^\P''^'" ''"' '^"'' ' <""" Anfwer to his 1 8th Q,,err in the Papers quoted in the Margin. That Gentleman admits or ajefts Hcarfiy-Evi- o. ?„ ' I*"" 'I.'"''''" /'"• or ^S^inft his Purpofe. but a to what W;, Gram, and C..;..rhavc fworn, the marginal References prove they were rightly inform- al of the Kias, and that his two WitnefTes are ivfen ot remarkable Gratitude and Probity. The reft of that Paragraph is a m.dicious Fidion. .as every one tnuft be convinced .md the Ship's Company can r nr ^f T' "' ^'^ '^""'''^ '^c Surgeon's Igno- I ;i/ii „ l."S"''8= ■' but they are cot mfm\ and Af^,^to//s Affidavits .-ilone on which I depend n A" "'''n'o ',''= ^"'■^^'•5 of his WitnefTes. Mr Dcbbs will find many Proofs of their being, i„ tim Opmion of even two of his own Pricnds, as well .as of others, but of very doubtful Credit. In his long Paragraph, Page 70, 71. 72 73 Mr Dobbs^y., " But If ft be A'h^t'he lelH^ .< ^f~^"y. «hen pointed out to him in fevernl " }„tr"r ^^ l]^L.made/«//. Chans, lain down ^^ /«« C«rrm; and Tides, and th.at he has formally Jam down a large frozen Strait fbr bis Tide to flow clP^ ^,T f^,""'" 5* "'■"'y Vindication ; tne Bco.r^ Let "M*^r" ^"'"' ^"^'i^ *■= 6"'. ■7^3 i Mr° S the Bccrlnning of arle\ ' ' 3""' * Gttj Mii. the in >1^ ■" ;:ib ! h.i |: !i:^M ^fii: ( 5)4 ) c cafily behevcd that he did not do this for no- •* thing.i^cri agree with thisGentleman in hisCon- clufion, but has he proved any of thefe Points of Wilful Negleft, Impofition on the Public, Cruelty, Fiction, or Corruption ; and has he not taken every Method poflible to make good his Charge ? As to my wilfull Neglect of the Difcovery, when pointed out to me in feveral Places, I have already inconteftably proved it a groundlefs Story. As to ir.y Impofition on the Public by falfe Charts, laying down falfe Currents and Tides, I need iHake no An- fwer, fmce Mr. Do^^j himfelf has cleared me from this Afperfion in his Quarto Romance, Page 70, before quoted, But upon what Evidence does he bring this Charge ? why truly, upon an ano- ftymous Letter which gave him the fiift Hint of my Roguery^ which fince proves to have been written by the Surgeon and Clerk ; and how good Judges are they likely to be of Charts, Currents, and Tides, I leave to the Public. As to my Fiftion of the frozen Strait, and the Depth, I anfwer, that to the Confu- fion of his Witnefles, fuch Strait, I fhall prove, is no Fiftion. The Depth of Water is at the Entrance of the frozen Strait 105 Fathoms by Soundings, as may be feen by every Logg f and Journal kept on board the Furnace. He cannot fuppofe we failed into thefe frozen Straits to afcertain the Depths within it, which I have faid in my Vindication is probably the lame. I cannot but here take noii'je of this t yidf my VindiwtioD, Page 124. Gentle- Gentleman's Difingenuity ■. he begha the Logg he has pmt,d on Sunday the eighth, whereas had hfbe! g.m K on Saturday the feventh. he would have found the Soundings at 12 at Night fet down .05 Fa- thorns; but this he wilfully omitted, as it would have deprived h.m of an Inftance to prove one of hi. Heads of Accufation. As to the Charge of Crueltv wuh regard to the hdiam, it is anfweild by Guk ^eS'/l "^V"^'' '" *'^ Appendir^! yerrnr Mam's Letter proves it both groundlefs IS. X fuppofe, of the frozen Straits, to which I CW is f^ t''" '' ""•Z"' '"' Corrupti the "-harge is fo often repeated and anfwered that it jvouldtire the Reader M fay any thilg of it here His Attack upon the Company, Page 72 I leave to them for an Anfwer. if tVthink'ic ''w^rtt X" wWK'r^"'^"'''.'" my playing double (to fupport which Charge, he referts to my own Letters) I ftall .ngenuouny own, that my Correfpondence with Mr DMs having given the Company Jealoufy. tS sb.nk I merited, caufed fomeRefentment on my Side ana 1 liltcned more than ever to Mr. DoM/s'i Solli* rr^jof '^-^ \P^l ^y extorteitmrntt; Letter N» 1,. m his Appendix, Page 10^, ,0? and by quoting which, he has unhappily ^d v!rv ftrongy proved, what he has as ftrenuouflrdenkd m..h.s having follicited and fought after mv Ac quamtances and farther, that no M n o"l to repofe the leaft Confidence in him, fince he had rather forfeit the Charafterof a Man of Honour irtL'' HTV'''""[^^°^"y- a^throughout h^R : marks, he has ; than not indulge tc his Paffion. iS ''aS H P 'fe-l h l%i i 1 I' (9«) h is a Trouble to me ; I am really grievM that he compels me to treat him with Afperity ; my Re- putation, and my Childrens Bread» are to be defended againft the Attacks of difappointed, and, as 'tis vifi- ble, malevolent Men. Had I Icfs Stakes upon the Board, I fhould be unmov'd, and, allowing for the Frailties of human Nature, have made no Reply, as I fliould have expefted Mr. Dohbs, of whofe Probity I had a great Opinion, would, in time, have been convinced, from the general Character of his Informers, that he had wrong*d me in his Opinion, and, confe- quently, would have done me publick Juftice. Could he have coolly mentioned this Affair of the Difcovery, he would have written with more Caution ; he would have confider*d theConfequence of ftriking at a Man's Reputation, not only with regard to the Perfon who unhappily is the Obje6t of his Difpleafure, but with refped to himfelf, as it might pofTibly hurt his own Charader, both as a Chriftian and a Gentleman. But to return j To prevent my Reader the Trouble of having Recourfe to the Remarks, I fhall give him the Contents of the Letter referred to by Mr. Dobbs^ in a fummary Way : *' I obferv'd to him, tho' his *' Application in behalf of the Difcovery had at that '* time proved fruitlefs, yet, as he intended to pufli ** the Attempt nextSeafon, I hoped he might find •' Things more favourable. I returned him Thanks for his AfTurances and Friendlhip in recommend- ing me for the Undertaking, and promifed, ac- cord' ng to his Requeft, to make farther Enquiries and Obfervations in the Voyage I was going upon. I take notice of Sir Charles IVa^er\ being indiffer- ent, and having but little Inclination to the Enter- prize, tho' he allow'd the Probability of a Paf- iage ; however, that he would ba no Obftacle, if th ■ Government thought fit to enter into it at the CC T^i ! *'>!»'^!''r« \a \rr\cxr\nA I t-t-itif-t #-/^i.-4 Ktr^-^ fU--.*- .«tKn4> xUlJilWilhO JU^«vpvt4VW* A WiiWii UU'iU iiiniy UiUL WlJUl. " he cc C( cc cc « Sloops for the Di^ covery, havine th^ T Jiv...i^ — L-j ., \. 'ti •' Blad to t„„» r u '^°"'''" '^^ 'hat I Ihould be an Aa to confirm the Charter." now I leave it to any .mpartial Reader, if this b^ not a fuHnd &ZfiZ^nT^°^ ^'- -"^'^ Earnettnefs to p™. mtnltirn^"""'^'"'^''''""' whether it is not » natural Gonfequencethat he fought out, and folicited "'^' '"'"g^ge in theUnde«akirig;'wh«herIhad pofed »"fiTd''M "^ ?"Ji:'''; =•' "="' -h«" F- poied to find Men who Ihould talce off from the PuU,c the Expence of fuch an Attempt , wtoher I feOl2dtv"tc ""J"'"'^' -hen't thoit my' more to m„/^ Company to come into Propofali whefher Z nT'^' "l!,"n!'^' *='^ ^ervicef and rdeavourj^'; f fp ■" ?"''''*'"g "y Le«e" and his ProWtv \?,S"i"r^°' P'^IT^ » Confidence in nis i-robity, has afted like a Man of Honour or even common Honefty ? "onour, or abot' mv A^r'P"'"-""^" ^T 73. of his Remarks fw^r.H^ '" P"?"?^ a Letter, it is already an- plltJX^p- ""f •''" ^^V"" ^ '"ft"^d from a readmit,,, D '"r ^ °""""''' '°^ '^''.ch I have al- d^d fh^M n If""' "' '''" ^ '■='"«««d i" Uiige, SKd^f f ^ri:iT"^s-cie-^^^^^ Truth, as by-ever Me^^^r^rpj^LrRul^ tho- he thereby facHfi« hi. own ^m^l^'C " pernicious 4 M, t* ", is m li^'i- i ' n mi ( 98 ) pernicious Is the Effca of Rcfentment ! his Appedl Pa^e 74. is a Flourirti upon the Charaaer of hii Witncfles, and his Recapitulation I fhall take but little Notice of, as to the firft, the Judges to whom he has addreffcd himfelf are to determine, for I be- lieve from the innatfc Juftice of the En^lijb Nation they have hitherto, waiting tny Reply, fufpended their Judgment; as to the Latter, 1 am full of Opinion, till his Informers had been tampefd with, they were unwilling to borrow Mr. Dobh's own Expref- fion to criminate their Captain, not from the Reafon he gives, viz, their great Regard for the Public, but for another which was, as 1 have very good Ground to believe, theCare of their Intereft, they would be fatisfied what Price they were to be pay'd for the Hazard of their Reputation, and this appears pro- bable from Thomfon^ Saying to Mailer mifon f, that he thought he was in the Right not to give any In- formations till he knew upon whAt Conditions he was to do it, now the Englijb of this is, Hhomfon himfelf was promifed 100 /.and to be fent down to cure all the fcorbutic Seamen at Portfmomb, having, as he V2^xat' td,^Noftrum, but was baulked in his Expeftations. tis certain I have no Proof of this, and I don't cx- pea that he will acknowledge I bad it from his own Mouth, or that PTtgate will own he ever told me the llime Thing, tho' adkual Truth •, my however, bare Aflertion I hope may ftand upon as good a Foot with the Public as the many Mr, Dohbshns publifh*d in his Remarks withotit any manner of Support ef- pecially as the § Mafters, Mr. Dewilde's and Mack- heth\ Affidavit ftrongly prove Offers and Promifes of Reward tofuch as could be, and had been, induced to accufe me !|. l^mgate boalls arc true, Mr. Dobbs, ( 99 ) an illnatured Man would fay, is guiJty of vile Cw. be ,pt o tlimk that Gentleman is too light of Belief m crediting a Perfon who will romance! and r«her for that Reafon. pity his Weaknefs, than condemn h« Refentmenti but as Mr. Dotis, Page 758^ whiW '"*''''°T ^"P'''"'"^ 'his PtxjcSureof S whch he cannot deny. I may be allowed to fay In^^^ "fl'^"'* '," ' """^ difadvantageous Light Wtneffe? ""'-'*''" """^cr Mr.°D.M. or to th^nlJ^Mt ^t^'r^S- %». that Mafter;^f.» i, the only Man who feems to pulh that Matter, I fup- and mgat^s Evidence, and he the Mafter fwears in very indeterminate and loofe Words, as for Mr. £>»- «; fometimes, ci^nc ana torty Hours upon Deck at a timp ^' which muft be very fitiVnrno. :« 7u r ti ^» ♦« Man m Wr. U.A l^ I'ltiguing m thofe Parts to a /•....„'" /" l""", bad State of Health." r^,, Sr>h.iek i wears, cnaf- fhf» iii««^ i^.-j ... _ -»--./£-«: ^^''z^ "'.^ ^^°°^ Tide, which flow' ^iver r^/^.^r, m at its Mouth H s up the comes aJJ from the K' U >'i m I \l'l' |l -■\ til ( 102 ) E. or the E. by N. the Courfc of the Nm Strait by Compafs, and from the Frozen Strait round Cape Frigid^ and that it did not come from the South weft ward. He farther fwcars, that all the Way between Brook Cohham and Cape Dobhy that is between 63° and 65° of Latitude, they were furc of the Main Land, (that is, the two Ships Companies) and were never above three or four Leagues off the Main Land, except in one or two Places, where, meeting with Shoal Water, they lay to in the Night-time, that they might not pafs over any Place unleen, and ftood in Shore in the Day 5 that off the Head Land, in Latitude 63", 20^ they were not two Leagues from the Shore. He again fwears, that on board the Difcovery from Churchill home, there were not above four or five in a Watch able to go aloft to hand or reef a Sail, including Officers, though that Ship was then better mann'd than the Furnace, infomuch, that in Wager River the Dif- Cffoery Pinkv/^^ obliged to fend moft of her Hands to affift on board the Furnace, where they had few befides fick Men. And, laftly, he makes Oath, that he faw two or three ^ales of the Whalebone Kind, without the Mouth of the River Wager. Xjrance Grant's Affidavit corroborates what Towns has fworn of Mr. Moor\ Mr. Wilfon and petty Officers declaring unanimoufly, that there was no Paflage Weft ward out of Wager River, and alledges their Reafons, which are the fame as in the Affidavit of Towns J he alfo fwears to the feeing three or four black Whales blowing, as they (the Ships) were com- ing out of Wager River ♦, he fwears farther to my Condu^ and Vigilance in fearching all Shores, and my lying by in the Night, that I might not pafs any Straits or Inlets that might offer a -Paffage ; he fwears to the ill State of Health of the Men in both Ships, and gives it as his Belief, upon Oath, that the laving all their Lives was owing to my Vigi- lame ( lOJ ) Im, and 0«rf«.7 and that if I had died diey ftould fcarce ever have k^Et^lcmd again j he aifo fwears w here to be obferved that he was one of the Car center's Crew) highly pleafed wiA the fttf^te (^c. which I had given ; and, laftly. he fweS "hat m makmg one Copy, and finiihing another. rfX ^LT^' J°"'"-''. Are thefeVaarfwom St from their certa.n Knowledge, to be term'd Hearfky! and Points fo material as flatly contradift the Ew! ^^^oimmh^, Witneffes. to be compared to flaTr '''"'i!'^'°"'"'"S Men catch at ? Do fhey not flalh Conv>a.on, and ought they not to fl do not «• ^!,« iT- ^\c ?"**'• ^'•S* 79. " towns and « ri^ l!t ^ * f f '^'''l *« "«= ^J°°d came from the £fl/?a,rt^^ from the fri^ztn Strait ; yet this Aey muft take from the Faith of the C««^L, for they were never alhpre to know, and what he was I /%f '° ^'" ^"^' "«t they be ieved kto te fo •' I find Mr, Dotts had rather betray Ignorancr/han oor throw Dirt; had he been asVn^wtgTn S^a Affaus, as^he would be thought, he would not Sihe K^g oir^,,^^ going Xre"to o-y tne 1 ides and Currents, they were almoft alwivs "J *^ Boat, getting the .high and low Wa^ sffi £ Comir^r "^ ^. 5''?*'"' *«h the PoLt of the Compafs it fat. They had been afliore in the River IVager three Weeks, and feverai times came down towards i,s Al^h with me, to ZTrvTZ Tides, and were as well acquainted with as Mr. Do^s IS Ignorant of, them. We camT out of Sx that Evening was fallen one Foot, and on the 5 -v — "WW wiLiiin Half alviije of the Jow ^ '^ Beach, << C( cc " r ' fc 1 f ' I .'' I B'^ ( r iii ( 104 ) peach, t where every Man might obfervc the Tide on board, as well as on fhore. Hence it is evident, that they ijccd not have pin'd their Faith upon me, but were good Judges of what they advanced. As to the Point of the Whales, it has been already anfwer'd, as is alfo what regards the Indians, On the Whole, fays Mr. Vohbs^ all my Affidavits and Evidence are infignificant, and the Fadls, Logs and Journals are againft me , and fupport the Charge of my Mifconduft. This is a very }3old Charge ! But what Fafts has he advancccf, which have pot been already refuted, except hi^ Tides and Currents, which I (hall (peak to in the Sequel ? What Logs and Journals has he pror duced, except an imperfcft wafte Book, which he calls a Log, to fupport this round Aflertion of Mif- condud ? Why does he not produce the Journals of jhe Lieutenant, of the two Matters, and my own, to make good this Accufation, and to prove the In- fignificancy of my Affidavits and Evidence ? And why does he fay. Page 74, y^^ that he appeals tq the large Original Log-Book belonging to the Fur-; nace, in which he obferved fomc few Things differ from the Pocket Log-Book that I printed. As the Lieutenant and Matter of the Difcovery Pink are gain'd over to his Interett, he has had Opportunity enough, no doubt, to have examined them. As for Mr. Moor^ the Matter of the Difcoverfs Log and Journal, he had ta)cen them out of the Adm^ ralty long enough before he printed his Remarks, confequently he was under tio Necettity of appealing to a fmgle watte Book. The Truth is, he exar mined them *, but his Bufinefs was to blacken, not to clear my Reputation ; and, therefore, would not refer to Journals and Log- Books, which invalidate + Vide mv Vindication. Paffe i^tr. 146, indufiv«. --f-f -fjr --n? --Jjr ing the ( lOf ) tfK Evidence of his Witneflc,, plainly prove hi. Atas groundlefs, and his Accufati,i,s falfc and malicious , but, fince Mr. Mbs has npt produad any of cfefe. The Curious may infpeftX SJ at the Admiralty ^nd Navy-Office '^"S'nius I beg leave here to talce Notice, "as it is not every body mto whofe Hands thefe Sheet, may fall, IS may have Patjence to r?ad what will be conta n'H hat Mr mts in his Sort of a I^-lfook ^ indeed the wafte Book, has deftroyd^hTLieute nam's Flood-Tide from the ff'efterloclal ty ac" knowledgmg, in the laft Line but one, Pao-e ,L of his Remarks, that it came from the Eaft. /am furpr^d he, who is fo great a Judge of Log-Boob ^nd Tourn^. (dc. ftould be guiky of a Blunder! wh.cL, at once, overfets all his S. W. Tides com! .ng from the mjlern American Ocean, through Se Lieutenant's imaginary Opening. " Ut Dohh, Page So, fums up all his Evidence againft, and then gives hisOpinionof. both meandT Company. As the former is opiy a Recapituladon and the latter grounded on what I have thorough"; refuted, I ftall uke no Notice of them, but IrZ ceed, and fl,ew how difingenious Mr. hobh is \r, W. S. W. Moon made high WaterifW^-S^, but he conceds that Pa« of Ktlfef^ Journal, wh^re he f^s, that m Latitude 6f, of the Weft Side of the Welcome, which is near Brook Cobbam, the Tide comes ftrong from the N. E. he calls it a foakine Tide, and fays it flows. Neap and Sprino- Tides froni twelve to feventeen Feet. Now, thTs a^re« rA°'';°'"'"'""'°"^' ^'' "= it^eftroys^Mr my, S. W, Tide, frpm the Lieute^^^- !■ '■■■ ^i ■ Imm^A iS J^^^H Ml mtv ! i 'ir m i" i il! I:: i;l Hi iifiif ( io(S ) M^y 0/<«»^;, he ha* thought fit to fupprefs it. Mv ppmion upon «W, Journal was. a» ™y be fan TJr^a'^A °^ •'%'"''^'". ">at hi, being fa on fte &ift Side wa5 a Mark that the Flood caSie from the Northward j but I cannot fee that his beine fct ^t the Flood came through broken Lands on the Weft of the /TfW. We imagined that the Courfc of the »>/„,« hy near N. and S. but we found. by Experience, that it lies nearer E. and W He again fays, " I own that the Eaftern Tide is fwnt ation. that I fpoke from my own Knowledge, grounded on Experience, he would not otherwife conceal my having fpoke from the Information of hnFavomieFox, u was from his Accounts alone that ^ L^- U-' "' '^^ *^'*"'- ' *»» now pro- « cTthe^^ ""^ ^'■^'' ^"■"^^' « '^ « P'«fcd TIDES, ^c. Mr. p^ifo has mentionM his TiJe, in no lefs than fifteen different Places, and to give a part cular Anfwer to every one of thefe, wtild not'^On ly be jkfome to my Reader, but be thought unneceffirT Mr%2i"^''- '"^'^' ' ■"=""=" -''Went S Mr. mhs his written on a Subjefl whicf V dA nw underftand ; though, t„ do this. I am ,x;,.^n Obligation of quoting that Gentleman, ai._ ■ ,; ;,* tofome particular Places in his Remarks, to^ovf h»^ Difrngenuity. as well as Ignorance, rdating L . ^r: ??F 34;. he fays, my R-oi:m Strati and Tidr isaf, «'.c> cdculated to impofe on the Public In ui: iiiMgraph he would infinuate, that the Tide was ( 107 ) was near fpent about Cork's Swa^, Neft, but of thii he knows nothing , all the Account of thi TideVhere made the Obfervat.on we,« not to be depended upon wherefore m his Return, he himfelf fot Sp all wth ' ^J^^aT "^.Anchor, watched the flow o^ri; Tide ^d found .n a Bay to the Southward of the Sea! horfe Point, not far to the Eaftward of the MeridS of C««y3 W. N^ck, the Tide Bowed 2 3 ^« and Lys that for any thing yet known, there , nigh be a i^aifage into the ffelcome : Now if Fo* who t'i^r'^ Tide, at the far.heft of Is D^l^ the Tide could not be fpent, as Mr. Doih woiTd unfairly infinuate. at Can/, Swan's m -, and t at we may depend on him in this Point, what he t, l^itt fd: Jp-feafi: I El; rkPu "'f JJf""'^ °f "^y retracing. It i, vi- ' MftakefTn'r^'''f"<^ ">e 8th ,742, ehat b/a Miltake , I faid Low- Water for High, for in that Hirw"^'',^^'''^,' "'•*"' '^^ by S. Moon ViuL High-Water dat Morning, between 7 and 8 o' Clock : But I have already anfwered^his in my Vindication : This Repetkion of the fame Charge in ^h^.T-' ^"^ "5 ^°"""' '^'' mention ffo pfcnly evinces my Error.) proves that Mr. Doibs-, bv Ih/hf'^'f!^"'"?-. ^=*""°' but take Notice by the bye of his giving his Friend Mr. Mm the f^Z'^f ""^ °^^ ^Py^ ■• M--- -D^ii^defires to te n! ZZi'7»''^''^T'^°'"&''^"'' ''""'""o the Boat tor near 5 Hairs, when 1 went on Shore to obferve the Straus andTades , to oblige him. I (hall heregive him aMinute Account. As 1 have already faid in my C '"' ""'-:^"«'> wic i/7u/tf// i^mgmit and mylelf returned . *: ■» I ,^--- '-- ff -■', ! pi f ■ If ■ Ml Is,! II i I .1 t ( io8 ) returned to the Boat at half an Hour pafl: Four in the Afternoon, all very much fatigued, having walked and run for the firlt two Hours from Hill to Hill, in expeflation that one would overlook the Whole, the Ground wc had gone, wc could only guefs at, but as to the Time we fpent, I can be very certain, for I had a good Watch with me, which no one elfc had who was afhore. As foon as I came to the Boat, I ^^fk'd the Men whether ihe Tide was ebbing or flow- ing, and was nop guilty of the Blunder, the Clerk has committed, in making me afk before bis Low- Water, which way the Tide of Flood ran ; the Men told me that the Tide had flowed four Foot, wheo 1 afle Rate of fo^ M les an Hour E. by N by Compafs, indeed this is n.TT^'^.r '''« Log Book, but muftbe re- ^'^^^. ^^ *" *at were then upon Deck the Matter's Anfwer to Query ,4 takes n^orice of M„g LAli: *' ^"r* ""^ '^ "«" Straits, and lL in VS , " "^/TS ='g»i" « off 'he head Ho,?, n^,V °-<, ^""^ "'«'■« « "" two Miles an .^T.k^r'^'^'u^'^- «'" 'heirAnfwers to fw Jt, f^uT^""'' ''^^ ^^^' here faid. ^^ ^^SHfitht 6th as per Log we lay too, between fr!^H T'V?"''. ^°' '^ '^"^"' tried the Tide3 iound the Flood to come fiom the E bv S rh,P„^ At'^tfl^L'^r "^f r'-- ^- ^- '--''five mS At ^ paft two fent the Lieutenant aftiore to fee hnw much die Tide had flowed, he gave m 'an A?coZ that « had flowed a Foot, W 1 do ^ot b^lfeve a" M aken notice of in any Body's Log Book or W ml but my own ; tho' we tried the Tid« a hundi^ trStheTidLTH^^'- '*"■ *<= »°«' ""d then tried the Tide and found it come from the Eaftward this IS m the origina Log Book, but want of S marks Mr kM™'""'"" °^ "^'"^ '""'='' f™"" ^^ marks. Mr. DoBs again catches at a Straw, in fav- Tiir\ ^""".'"^y J°"nal EB inftead ofS. I acknowledge^ the Error, which is in all mv W nals v for h« Friend and Witnefs ff^Je^l S whS^ffo^^r.'' 'T *t^°S '"'•''^"'e Miftake, ht, t ' h£/:'^l" ^y *^ Contradiftion of it^ .1 — 171- t rr— f* in having ebbed i Fnnt or.ri i n^e Appendix to thef« Sheets UIC X 'lood coming from the Maftcr in Eaftward, I by the >pe, and I ive to the V the Log ite of four leed this is uft be re- Deck, the of lofing raits, and ' the head Miles an to Query aid. between Tide and . the End /e Miles. > fee how Account lieve this or Jour- hundred m down jnd then Eaftward, of Room nail Re- , in fay- ofFlood. ly Jour- in tranf- Miftake, of its ig from ( III ) the Eaftward, thdt Mr n/,u, « » »ftamedofmenti<»iS;'it^";^:°!«^' «> hart been aflions the 6th Day ofkZ^fjP^"" "» Tnwf- t>-M the rule and LZ ZZj, "" > '^ ^'"der, the Biacb: At 2. P Mba7.\ ^"^ °' ^««'»/ here he has l^t out rte Point 'fVV^'" W Scat to try ^bat Ttme TtblS '^"' "J^" ""-'^ had ebhd t^oFoot, «^/K f/T' ^"""^ ""■* "^ f¥^ard. This i, eWdeXtfiTunrf/'^V'-''' "^ for we could never miftake fix ^""'i" ■" Copying. We came out of W«? p,v* T " ,'" '"'° ^ayl were very certain of tL^^ *r '^*' ^hen: we was h%£^Wai;^^."at Six d,aT'w *^ ™''' "^ '' Wcit. and continued%Jg^^Ji78,'" which wc the Courfe, and Dirc^j^? ^ T^° "°"rs to get Inftruftions I ^t^jJ'T^'?^ '° ""^ In- to cme on hoard ^ ZLT-'^ ^^ "" ^oat carry'd round to the Eaftwln •.•""'??"«'« being mor, who was a ftern of ^I V " ^""""y ' Mr. Four that Afternoon w/,,^..^''^«'j, Three and by the ftrong Tide of FInnH r '" f*" Narrows, which there hid ilh^ ty fSoft for' 'f' ^1""^''' This IS proved by ourlvincTl™.? \ 'S!"^ Hour. to the Atteftation orjKi ^!f *' ^'"*^- As ■t .s a direa ContraS "' ot^'Zh'"' f '''"*'^- I'de had ebb'd about the Bearh P •"" ^^f' 'he By the Lieutenant. Surleon Sh pi ??' '*° ^^f- the eighth Query beforelhrA^ • ^}"^' ^nfwer to ledge, tha^hef the I itel;!'?'"''^' they acknow- Shore to fix the JuLnt " T T'^ T "''' 'he of thefe Atteftators fteer°d h^ l"^" L''"' ''"« one Beach Point. Tl, , fi ^e the R^^r"^ •°' "'^ '°^ Book and Chart, th^u ",1 .'./"bhcat.on of m, ^iunder'd out a manifeft c^-l.--. -d have t^^r Page 154, R^^^^j^^ fct i- ( r ^ r:i- 'i 11^ ( 112 ) ftt fo very ftrong about the Point to the $. W. that they had like to have been driven round it, fays the faid Attcftator ; yet with Sails and Oars, and a fair "Wind, they could not. get up to this Beach Point, the Tide of Flood fetting fo ftrong againft them, that I was forced to lye by to take the Boat up 5 the low Beach, when they had near'd the Shore, they brought to the Eaft ward of the S. E. yet thefe ho- neft Men atteft their having been carry'd round the faid Point to S. W, by a Tide of Ebb. If Mr. ]:>obbs underftood Tides and Currents, as he would have the World believe he does^ and had, at the fame time, the cool Ufe of his Reafon, he certainly would not have fuffer'd fuch contradi^ory Blunders to appear in Public to fupport his Caufe, he would at leaft have inlerted Probabilities, and not have Jet his Witnefles in one Place deny what they have afTerted in another. When he thought the recalling the Lieutenant whom I fent to try how much the Tide rofe and fell by the Shore, would ferve his Purpofe, I then was afraid of his making Difcoveries, and would not fufFer him to reach it, and this was fupported by the Lieutenant, Surgeon, and Clerks Anfwer, but fince that, he having thought it necef^ fury to bring the Flood Tide from the Weftern J. merican Ocean, the Lieutenant has been fteer'd to the Low Beach Point, and the Boat was in Danger of being driven round to the S. W. by a Tide which would not fufFer them to get the Length of it, but he could notwithftanding, obferve at 4 Miles Di^ ftance, that it had fallen 2 Foot on the Point, his Witneffcs alfo can remember that the Boat pafled by \.\\Q Frozen Straits within 2 or 3 Miles of the Mouth of it, and yet every one in the 2 Ships muft know that while they were in the Boat they never came within 6 or 7 Leagues of it. The Lieutenant acknowledges in his farther Anfwer to the nth Query, which I have before touched upoi may W. that , fays the md a fair ch Point, ift them, up ; the )re, they hefe ho- ound the If Mr. le would , at the certainly Blunders : would ot have ey have •ecalling uch the erve his overies, this was Clerks : necefi :ern A- :er*d to Danger ! which it, but Ics Di-t nt, his pafled of ths !S muft never itenant nth hat he may ( '»? ) may rtmembef that f gave him a fti-ift charge iH t^e care that he wa, not hauld in. for that the^Ebb was coming on therefore bad him ftand ofT from it • Uu fi '5*'.H'g'';W«er about 8» that Morning, r w« fatuHed. if at all, he Would feel the Effefts of the Ebb between ,0 and i,, but if he flood farther off, he would be out of the way of the Indraught of tha Strait, and the Tide would not run fo ftroT I muft here quote Mr. Doihh learned Paragraph, ^? \-* xw^'^'^en to be particular in my Xn- fwer i hi. Words are as follow. « After ftrugling very hard for this Tide at feven, and finding if wont do, hefiys, nbat would it auail me if be ^ granted ttto me? and fo wants to raife Scruples. :: if """k^ Difficulties about Tides in othe^ " JTl. ■ r " "'i" P"?"' ' 8«at deal, and what he inftances about the Time of the Tide .. ^I^?f&^""°"'°P'^U .'30 i^agues, flowing that Diftance m five Points from E. S. E. td h.byE. or m 3 Hours and 48 Minutes, and being but one Point in flowing down to Albanyi 250 Leaguesor4g Minutes in Time.where a South vT ""t^ ¥'^ ^«« •• ^ '■"PPofe this to te . 1 I "'^ "^^^ *^" ">«* his Error, or the Fa- hcy be would iinpafe upon the Public in this I'oftulate. All, who know any thing of Tides, are fenfible that if a South Moon makes High ^ Water, a North Moon, the oppofite Point, dSs fo too i now fince there is a Strait 6r Strong Tidff in ffWM Strait and it is 5 Hours in rSnning 140 Leagues, which .s the Length of the Straif. and as the tide in the Bay is fpent, and confel ^uently lefs rapid, it muft in Reafon. be lonser m flowing 250 Leagues 5 and the Cafe is plain It IS fo 8 for It is 17 Points iri flowing down ta €i <( <{ CC 4( it * I'''it/f Anfwpr tn fli ■ - ■ -—- -• — » %^» ^at Sheets, and Maftcr's Anfwer a <.«.U f\.. ^<^Ty in uie Appendix to thefe to Query nth in mv Vindication. % ^1 I 'h i, i ,ll'l Ml •'msa p^i ' ! M!. H 'lif-' hH'r i* ( r'i ii^ •• re cc f '■' ■^^^■^ Ivtf y-,,- 1 tl ( IJ4 ) y^/'^jwy^andaNorthMoon makeshigh Water there j • yet he would impofe this Fallacy upon us, that it *' flowed m 48 mm. inftead of 12 Hours 48 min. fa this great Difficulty vanifhes. As to his Quota- tion from the learned Dr. Hally, it is here nothing to the Purpofe, only to fhcw that he has read it, ** and applied it without Judgment.** Mr. Dohbs in this Paragraph, has taken a great deal of Pains to con- vince the World he is but a Smattercr with regard to the Tides, but as he has this Difcovery fo much at Heart for the .Good of the PuWic, and for that jaudablc lieafon may be induced to undertake it jhimfclf, that I may throw in my Mite towards the procuring this great Advantage to my Cbuntry, I fhall here tndeavour to enlarge his Underftanding. f"irfl: I rnurt advife him,that he may be capable of my Inftrudtions, to learn to box and quarter his Compafs i he muft next obferye that the natural run of a Tide, when it is fuppofed clear of all Rocks and other Im- pediments to obftruiSt the Flux and Reflux^ muft be 6 Hours and 12 Minutes, or it would be High Wa- ter always at the fame Place and Time ;* every Hour iof Time differs two Minutes of Tide ; that is to fay, in 30 Hours of Time it differs one Hour in Tide, and makes it one Hour later in being High or Low Water*, whence *tis evident, that the Notion of a natural Tide running 6 Hours,is erroneous : Next I will inform him, that fuppofing a South Moon makes High Water at any two Places ; fOr Example, at the Mr^f arid Peni- land Firth (the Channel which parts Scotland from the Iflands of Orkney) they being pretty near the fame Meridian, for the Nore is about 4°. of Longitude to the Eallward of Dun^y Head, which makes one Side of the Firtby now on fuch a Suppofition, I would, I fay, inforni that Gentleman, that a South ' Moon makes High Watei*, on fuH and change Days at both Places, allowing only the Time which the 40 Degrees of Longitude give iviz.) 16 Mini Itl^po m confe- ( ITf ) ronrequemly it will be Hiah Waf,T ^ -.i »r -hat S wouW S Hilrw '"^ f • ^"^^^- after the FnlJ^rru.'S" ^^^^^ four Days cannot anfrfcr hv T T. ' ?''"'' ^ '"' '"'n"'' he i-0 often atC £e',°y%""^' "^^ '^"idian. Places, notonlv onT u^f ^'?^' " *" 'ho^ Moon but eZ Dait, "" ""'^ ^''""S^ °f "-e -an 'ti„ ti^rSfii&S S'^' tY ' are taugl^rhaS MorT'Tf f;„^°'"P^^- «ch Point or 45 Minu^s • il will he^Zfi'S'""^ •n going from the South to he Wd^ And ,. V^^ obferved that everv H™.r ^rV- V ^. ^^ ^ '^""^ ^ Minutes ktetl^ wiH a^foTrV^ ^^^ "'" ^ ■A'o^/f, and at PptitUi,A r- ,; ^ , '&" >^ateratthe Diffel^nce oFmSS X h^'^ '-''°1"^ '""."'^ the Moon comes roun^' to the Eaft' i? J^f ^^ "■'''" Water aeain at iSl, „< "^, •'"• " Wl be low Tide: Ani when the ^M^- '"" "'''" ^''^ ^oon South or MeS^aVati^Twmr/rm"' l" "' at Noon, or 2j. h ..s m • ,".'^ I'* m. after 12 where youh ve.FjtLTani . Ebb'"^ 'r' r"^""''"'"" This\ule will dl^":^^'^^^^- Water: Th'-n fi.,^ |g either. High or Low the Moo„-iho;i,r^ .;r .r:i?' ^^ :^^^^^^^^^ upon at either, if Oit I 2 s out of ', H% !f1 ( ii6) I ej: >f Sightj but in Cafe enouj : is vifiblc, you may obkrver comnion Gompafs for any^ Ufc in Navigation, the Variation of the magnetic Needle, being alfo allowed for ; e. g. fuppofe off Ttnmouthy it is known to flow S. W. then as often as the Moon comes upon the S. W. and N. E, Points oi"' the Compafs, fo often will it be Kigh Water, allowing a Point and a* half Variation. As often as it comes upon the N. W. and S. E. it will be then Low Water •, as it will be at that Moment of Time in all other Parts of the World, where it flows S. W. as often as the Moon comes upon its Points of flow- ing and ebbing ; allowmg for the. Difference of Me- ridians as aforefaid. Now in this common Rule there are no Impediments taken notice of. The Tides- are frequently obferved to vary their Courfe a fuM Hour, fometimes an Hour and half, as they happen to be accelerated or retarded by confpiring,. 6r by adverfe Winds* I mean not fuch as we may always feel •< but Winds at a great Diftance from the Place of Obfervation ; but this Mr. Do^^j^faysinhis^ next Paragraph, is all pranctng and evading -, I da notBnderftand this Term of />r^»««^, thoM have been' toW it's adapted to the Manege^ which we Mariners do not pretend to be acquainted with, and whether it is evading or nor, I appeal to better Judges than Mv. Dobhs is of thefe Affairs. All able Mariners will be fatisfied, that I have not endeavoured to impofc on the Publi-c and to deceive him in i6 Points of the Compafs -, but that Mr. Dohh has deceived himfelf in jufl: fo many, by publifhing a Blunder ; To return ; the Moon's Bearings are not always true, except when (he is near the Equator, for at all other Times, (he viciates her trueBearings or Azimuth very much but notwith(tanding, this common Rule will do for all ordinary U(es, as to Tides, in Navigation, This Gentleman is pleafed to fay, that my Quo- tation from the karncd Dr. Halley, only proves that I have , (117) t have read it, aiid applied it without Judgment I fnall now convince Mr. Dobbs, diat my allowing him his Tide at Cape Frigid could avail him nothing, as I have faid in my Vindication ; I have poftponol f/'^iJ??^' ^^^ ^^%" fo ^"PPort what I advance by Uie Tide Tab e, and fliali difmifs this Point of the Tides i for if the Examples,! (hall give,and thofe con- tain d in that *Table will not convince him that he ha$ hitherto talked without Book with regard to the Tides as indeed with relation to almoft every thing he has advanced, I (hall cfteem it lofs of Time farther to ati tempt to reclaim him. As I have already faid, grant- ing him his Tide at Cape Frigid, what Service would It \y^ to him ? as at Hamfound and at Hcymoutb in the yr^^fysy and among all thofe IQands, asalfo at Sbet^ Undxx. flows S. E. by S. and in Pentland Firth, which ;« but 2 Leagues Diftance from Hoymouth, and but one League from South Ronalflm it flows South ; agiin it flows S. E ztWinterton ; but the Flood runs into the ^efs 3 h. after it is High Water there : Now Dr. Halle^ fays, that without an exacft Knowledge of theCircum- ftances ofxhe Places, as of the Pofltion of the Land, and the Breadthand Depth of the Channels, there is np accounting for the P^^«ow^«tf of Tides. We know all thefe Particulars of the Places here mentioned j yet I have heard of none who has attempted to giveReafons for fo great a Difference in fo Uttle a Way, but Mr - Dobbs without being acqu;vnted with any of thefe Cir- cunifl:ances, or being .verfed in the common Pradlice ot the Tides, pretends to account for them in Places as yet undifcovewd : I allow that part of his Inftru^ions of meeting the Flood Tide is very good, if he would obfcrve only from whence the Flood comes, and Jvave no regard to the difl^erent Times of fiowin^ ; -tor if he fliould go in fearch of a new Ocean, it would - deceive him^ For Example, let us fuppofe him at an^nciioroii or uarwiih, not knowing where he was, * Fide Tht Tide Table. J 3 but n I m %} I Iri ' W 1 11 'M ■ M i iii \ '■■};• H , I ( ii8 ) but that he wanted to find his Way to the Ocean . h= obfcrm that .here is a Flood coming from thj Norhward, and as all Floods come from fonc Ocean he would order his Courfe that Way with a ong the Coatt, without having any regard to fuch Of^ .s Rankin',, but go on%o ^,eeffhe ^oSd he r .n^nlT '° 4 e"''^^'' by his Eyes, for if once the We l» VT' •"• '"°"" '■°°" '°°'"= hi-^felf upon «„Z ' i"i~T""S '° find a Faflage up lj„„, on the Coaftof Scotland: If fie comes off of £».: MZ'\^\f''''''''i\^ ^^'^ 'here have a South bothfrr.J^ M A' ="^=f°i'"<' it off of Harwich, and aSoTh M ' ^?'"y °f W"'^^ " flo"^. ='"d from a South Moon making High Water at lith Places he would be apt to think himfelf as far offfrS Ocean, as when he firft fat out in fearch of it. Hence js evinced Mr. DoWs «rri.irM,ft,i,. • • .V^^ aPaniff. i.Ji, f ,^ '.'^'"''''^> '" imagining hfllvs uSof tt n-/"^ P^r "'='' *<= g'-'^f Strefs tie lays upon die Djfftrence of Time of H^h Water Lroundlffi^''^^""'-^^ y°'"'^= fr""" the^Ocean?: Knea •f^t!'"\'''" ""' ^d good in any known ferther to (W ' v7 '='"' " ^ ''''P'^'^ « Pl''ce» h/^ ,11 Fr^ "']"='' »>* ""known 5 but he has' OmI'^uZ^ ^"TJ^^B^' from Ws Favour! e I know htl f ^ , ^'-^^'^^^ 'hall again infinuate, as fe7neaVheO^T'"T' '^^tth^Kik of 'the thrfolS^T^r"M '^'"'^"'de, let him obferv? Hi^h WaS A r ' "■'■ '^'-^ '^°"'^' "' Time of W^ter d^aLat rtm''''TJ!i " ^°^' « ^0°' more v>atertnan at thelflcsol Orineys, which nrp ;„ft ;„ heOcean , ,,Slj,h. it flows a Foot If than aftie ^ ^^ -i i.ar.ii., ^,Oir|j li /?^r£^74, it iiows 6 i^oi; . ( lip ) 6 F^t more than at the Orheys-, at Leiib, and all the Pe^rs in Edinburgh Ftrtb, it Hows 2 Foot more than^ at the above IJlands. And at Shetland, which K ! Q r ?''''"u'- f7'" ^' *^^ ^'•*«0'^' •' flows but 8 Foot, by which Irregularity is confirmee], what T ^\? ^y* ^^^^^ ^^''^ "ot to be accounted for I fhall now take Notice of fome of Mr. Moor'% Qtieriesfenttohim by^the Lords of the Admiralty. In Anfwer to the firft Query, he fays the Tides ran not above 3 Knots at the entering of Hudfon\ ' 5/r^//j, when clear of Ice ; I anfwer, he knows no- thing of It, for when it is clear of Ice, the Tide runs above 5 Miles an Hour, and for the Truth of this, I appeal to every able Mariner, who has made that Voyage. Bi't how do either of thefe Gentlemen know what Ice there was, to hinder our Searching Inlets, or Openings, as he fays there was, in Anfwer to V^ucry 7 ; for it had been contrary to my In- ftru(aions, to have ventured upon any Difcovcry till we came to maiekne Point, which was in the Latitude 6s<^ ; confequently we never came near, or looked into any Inlet. Mr, Moor in his Anfwer to Query the nth, fays the Tide ran 7 Knots inWager River, for he hove the Lo^g, and the Ship ran by it 6 Knots, 4 Fathom, tho at the fame time fhp fell a ftcrn ; ifhei^oesnoc mean that this was at the Entering of ff^a^er River he prevaricates, and does not anfwer the Query which IS, ** How many Knots did you find the Tide to run in fFager River ; » If he anfwered the Qiieftion made to him, he has been guilty of a noto- rious and prepcnfed Falfity -, as the Logg will fhcw that we had not Wind to run above 3 Knots, and that, among Ice, which caufed our traverfing v£ry much, and hindered heaving of the Logg ; the Tide flowed at 12 that Night the i:?fh of y?//v, and he drove in and out 3 fuccefTivc Tides, being endofed I all ^11 1 • 1 iJi: 'it ^iM , '^^ 1: 1 1 i ;■'' /i. ( IJO ) »« tlv. while in lee, fo that he had no Opportunw of trying the Tide in going into »'^^ kiver " ^j^ going out the 4th of ytugu) we had but viry 1 tt " Win3. and moft part ofthat Time when we got nV^ S^^rT" *]•"* 'heftrongeft Tide ran. it wl° that F.^ • ??'' "'rr ""'Bed to row and tow al that Ebb. until we had got 3 or 4 League, out of »'«./■ River's Mouth, and out of the ft ona confined in this Anfwer are manifefted by the f Kn^'"«^p'' heavy a Sailor that (he could no^t run vefvTot r r'r^r J" * ''"'Sea. without » very ftrong Gale of Wind, much lefs amone Ice abmre 3 Knots for Tear the Ice Ihould ftave our Ships*. tJcL?^Pj^ "t' •'« Anfwer is, that the Men SlwP i^fl-" "*""' ' 'I""'" °' » Mile from the ,r,S.!rK ,f 'IT r' ^"y '■^'f ■' "°* 'his is con- tradifted by Fan Sobruk,^^nd G»v,one of whom makes Oarh that they talted the Water h the Mid ChTnne ^hich ,s ateut 3 or 4 Leagues «p above i)«rS The other Swears to theFrelhnefrall the way up fmm 3 or 4 Leagues above Deer Sound ; fo that the whole River wasfofreft that the Men drank of it f™ of 5;er: Pncehy,, he and others drank the Wato", ^■fe "' 'r ^?^'''"'' ='"<' 'he Evidence o one Man to confront the bare Affertion of a Mm t^°bl/ ZeHr^"i^"y ""= ""•' "-- - teitabjy proved to have but very little if inv r/. ^r^^i^.^ '''' ^^«''-- - .ire got to the South Shore notwithftanding ti,e Ice md ?! rnflf h' t""*' ^."? '^"'''"S -'h the TiX' I alk him if he does not alfo believe, we had much ado to get back again both from 4 Leagues ab^ve " two I IZLa^ 'rr'"}"'*^ '" ■•'= Boat with the other our we were not feveral timesfaft ? r, !. • , ''';",>«'«'■ ^^ tome, that he « (bTender here i^h^^ i.as^obold,yafle.edFairS^^^ XNow the Lieutenant n his Tournal oAtU l-il was 4 Days after Aue ♦ "j^ journal 24th, which ♦' rctunMwi^frVT' ^^"^^ h's own Words ; "J it that there was no ir. In I-a'^^'' "''° "'" ^ave 3 BottlesofVue 'd^wn tit R^rTd^"^'''-''^ Jhe BotCes to'.^ef':;hS' hTc^S^/tSl ^ Nunibtr. and that I anfwered I found but littll ^^odeity ^ very rer.arkable]n ^^Q^ '^ "^^ Mr. I ' ;|f i m HI: W iijii ( 122 ) ^ Mr. Moor fays in Anfwcr to Qiiery 1 5, that the time Captain Middleton was a (horc at the C^/^, the Ships were fet clofc into thefe Siraits with the Tide, when we could plainly fee the Channel running clofe to the Low Beach by the Ice driving the Breadth of thefe Siraits, From Cajjg Frigid to the Low Beach is about 3 Miles. How inconfiftcnt is this Account, whcnCapg Frigid is put down feveral times in the Logg Book 2 Leagues the neareft Diftance from the Ship, and then the Low Beach Point was 4 or 5 Leagues from the Ships, as may be feen in the Logg, the feventh Day at Noon, juft after I got on Shore? The Words are thefe: " At " 12 Cape Hope bore' N. 4- E. 6 Leagues; The Beach Point W. S. W. 4 Leagues, the Entrance of the New Straits^ E. two Leagues, and even Moorh own Journal, by his Bearings of the Land, (hews he was farther from his new Channel and Straits whilft I was afhore at C. Frigidy by feveral Leagues than where we firft Jay the Ships to ; for in his Journal he brought Cape Hope tohczr N.N.W. from him, which could not be Faft, unlefs he had been 3 or 4 Leagues to the Northward of the Furnace •, yet 'tis notorious and . can be teftified by both Ship's Companies, the Pink was never above aMile or two diftant from theFurnace. His other two Bearings taken off the Beach Point S. W. by W. and W. S. W. farther confirm it, and nearly agree with other Journals and Loggs ; this is poor Cookery; but the Proverb fays, the more Cooks the worfe Broth : But farther, by their own Accounts in making C. Frigid an IJIandy at ieaft 7 Leagues long, as they or the Gunner have lain down in his Draught, was it poffible for Moor to fee a plain Channel but 3 Miles wide, 27 Miles diftanr, and locked within the low Beach by th'i high Land that runs from C. Frigid f though this palpable Falfiry is very confident of Mr. Dobh's Wimeffes. . ience laijon, .eports, prove, even by Mr. Dohbs'C^fP' ^'^"^'' " •^•"fadiaed is fet down 7 o7 8 M,|f -frR M"^' "'«=« '' Ship. infteaLf 4or7r!l ''''''''*f"'f™'"t''e and JoiTnaJs mention .iS^n^f "'' '^ Loggs Gentleman has again mi&kL hC ^ ^''^''"- ^^'^ Opening whici, if the /wL^i^ PoT^'f^ '^*" *«= two Leagues on which PnifT'-^- *"^ ''y W. double til Diftahcr'nftS ^f'E's'V" \\''"', '' t«y? h'f Judgment in Lo4 ' ^^''^' To the next Query ifi hV ,nr , ,' there was no * fuch ftrona TiH^ u"'' ''" ''"°«'« the km Beach and "Si?" "^r^'^ '^'"^^" luch a narrow PairaK^'t^i'i';?^:;^'' ^"^""1 to ^'V... I „„ft he^Kett^r ""''■" t^'"^'^ Draught makes ihtt<,Nel,sT..tfT''^^ *>« >Vider than he does the R^^Z/Cv °'^u^''- ^"'^ Leagues, than M^S^^f.^^^"'^^/- 7^= the Tides ran above 4 Mil«,r,tj ' "of'oayfays from the /-m,, &'4. t??/"!°"''' °^3 League, in the Entrance asTdoes h, L- '^ ™" ''^ '*^°''S this^fearisofMr.a^sDiS^r"''""" ther it was JVlain Land or iS nd^' ^T-^"""^" *''=- Excufe in the fame Anfwer t -f^, "^ ""^'« an ofNeglea in ^1^7,1:1^^'^ Lnputation might have fpared himftlf l *'""'' ^'""^e he Journal tryed then, S I v""" °"^' ^y ^' «nce at dL W and oi n^r^'';^"^''"^ ''= l^'y in the latter near rw'^/''"'-f' ^°''' 'ho' •^^-^ Miifler ^}'Z^ near 3 Weeks. ^-'^r '77, 178. -^^^//iW^i/tVeScHT'?^ r'' '" ^'^X ^^^'ndlc. p. 179 Jn the 'M ■ I i 41=,^ Mr. m I , ,11 ( 124) Mr. il^^r hlmfelf (hall here reply for me to his f)wn Anfwer, by the following Abftradt from his Journal. Juguft 9. He fays, " The mouth of the River -*' H^agery at 4 in the Afternoon, bore N. W. and " by W.DilVance 7 Leagues -,*• but in Mr. PTtl/on's and the Lieutenant's, at 2 the fame Afternoon It bore N. W. 4 N. 6 or 7 Leagues, as alfo in Mr. Dobb's Wafte Book, which he has printed in his Rcmaks j now thefe two Hours Difference, and near 2 Points in the Bearings, make us nearer to the Land by 3 or 4 Leagues, and more to the South- ward at 4 or 5 o'clock by 8 or 9 Miles. Juguji 10. He fays, " Fre(h Gales and fiir Weather, lying too with our Head to the S. E. At 3 P. M. wore Ship up, N. by W. off, N. W. by W.the Wind atN.E.byE. At 7 P. M, fet fail, kept N. by W. to get in again with the Weft " Shore. At 10 P. Af. brought too again in Com- ^* pany with the Furnace^ under our Topfails, *' founded 29 Fathoms. At 12 founded 32 Fa- " thoms. At I A. M. founded 35 Fathoms. Ac 2 founded ^6 Fathoms. At three 35 Fathoms, the extreme Points of the Weft Land in Sight, bore N. W. by W. and N. E. Diftance 4 or 5 Leagues. At ~ paft 5 in the Morning, made fail in Company with the Furnace^ founded 33 Fa- thoms. At Noon faw the Land from the N. by « W. to the N. N. E. Auguft II. *« Moderate Gales. At i P. M. founded 30 Fathoms Water. At 8 P. M. faw the Land from the N. W. to the W. by N. Diftance 9 Leagues, up Courfes and lay too, in Company with the Furnace. At 9 founded 50. At ten 53. At 11 founded ^5. At 12 founded 60 Fathoms. At 4 A. M. made fail in Company with the turnacey the Land in fight from the W. N. W. to the N. W. by W. and N. E. Diftance 4( it «c cc «« ( 12 nc to his from his He River . W. and '. miJotCs Afternoon s alfo in ted in his ice, and rer to the ie South- and fliir the S. E. r, N. w. f. fet fail, he Weft in Com- Fopfails, 1 32 Fa- ms. Ac ?'athoms, n Sight., 4 or 5 nade fail I 33 Fa- le N, by P. M. M. faw by N. too, in ded 50. founded 'ompany theW. Diftance C( f ) 4 or 5 Leagues. At |. paft 5 A. C{ C( cc (C cc «c from Jw'. N W. ^:ZVly w" Dit' 5 Leagues founded feveral tkie had 20 , "'"'^'^ 57 -d >8.Fatho„s ; rock; Ground A 'Cn the Land in Sight from the N bv W m ^2 LIues'' W. the neareft Part N. W, V^ tffp"-M I ^^''^ Gales 'ind clear Weather. N w W • '^ Nonhermoft Land in Sight bore wiA rk^ p /• '^- ''f°"S'« w in Company with the Furnact, founded 35, 40, 40. ,8 !o 45 Fathoms. Ai a A M Z.,^. r\^ \'* ' ;; foundedfoFathoms' t Noo^^^lS intht « ttms^' '^ ''• '^ '"'N- ''y E- founded^" la! that E'sffi/ro 'trrr "''' j°^^^^^^ carry on JVIr. DoI;bs*s unjuftifiable View's intern, made a Purfcr on board one of his Maieftv'^ Ships My Lieutenant who is the laft of ,hT^^ agamft me, coroborate the Truthf. "^ ^^^ The Rcafons which I think evinre t\.at tU^ SJ^d'^5 '''"^^^ - hr Se^t^Z; ERr'pSrl:;rahe"R±"\"°"^' "' '"^ bnrrhnfnf p -u i ^ ^ Reafon therein even) f n^f Mr. ^7^c«'s Affidavit p i^s Jn fn, v ^- • ' 'M'- 'j5- ID iny Vindication. ':i IJ !| ' • \t H > 'I one I H ( ijS ) hi ' ' of of] hisWitncfies, or my Ko^«f Mr. Dobbs, Who, in his Remarks, acknowledged that he had tampered with thefe Witnefles, points out what the Kealons were. .\I^''Af-\ ^].^sJe^tJ^e Government into a confider- able and fruitlefs Expence, and, I believe, been himfelf greatly difappointed in his Views of a lucrative 1 rade, m Cafe we had fucceeded in the wiflied for Difcovery ; or on its being found impradicab'le, of diflb ving the Cnartcr cf the Hudfon^^Bay Company, and kying open, as he acknowledges, the Trade: 1 ho , lamapttobelievcandnotwithoutfomeGrounds ior fuch an Opinion, that could he diflblve the faid Company s Charter, the Public would reap but very little, if any, Advantage; the Trade would be engroffed by a few private Merchants ; and Mr - Dobbss particular Intereft would be primarilv S^" ^^11 °^- ^°' ^'- ^"''^^^ ^oid me, that Mr Dobbs was refolved to purfue his Scheme ot laying open the Company's Trade 5 and that my writing the Purport of what he required- would be a means of facilitating that Gentleman's Scheme : In Confequence of which, he himfelf, Mr. Smttb, expefted fome confiderable Advantage. If the Agent had fuch towering Hopes, wha? were thofe oftheProjedor his Principal ? Now, to avoid the Reproach of having occafioned an ufelefs, public iixpence, and to revenge himfdf on me, who bv preventing the Sale of Goods, fliipp'd as before men- tioned, hindered him from diving into the Profits of thtHudfojh^Bay Trade ; to difcover which, I fup- pofe, that fmall Venture of a hundred Pounds was J^"r' ^^ i^°"Sht the propereft Method, was to Ihitt the Burthen from his own, upon my Shoulders, by charging the ill Succefs of the Vovage to mv Milconducl, or to ufe his own Term, to my Ro?uen\ )t only in aflerting I. •/ *l: 1' K Pro- rl ;i'i ( 132 ) Probability, but even the Certainty of a N. W Paffage into the Weftern Jmgrican Ocean j as is evident from his imaginary fpecious Strait, fiditi- tious Openings, chimerical Tides, and Dreams of an open, bold Paflage, leading S. W. the only Courfe to be wifhed for. He could nor impute our pifappointment of a Paflage, to my Ignorance ; he himlelt having recommended me as a Perfon capable of the Undertaking. My Integrity is therefore to be attacked, and the Difcovery not being made, to be placed to my wilful Negleft in my Search, or to my having found and concealed the Paflage. But for this, fome Reafon mua be alleged, or the Charge could have never gained Credit : He has iheretore founded it on a Bribe from the Hudfon's^ Buy Company, to conceal the Paflage ; and by terri- fying Accounts, and imaginary Dangers, to intimi- date all others from any future Attempts of a Difco- ^^^y- .7° %PO''t this Accufation, which is to be the Evidence of my Corruption, my Condudl during the Voyage, is to be fcrutinized, and proper Wit- nefl-es to that End, are, if poflible, to be procured among the Officers and Men on Board the two Ships under my Command. And accordingly I may fuppofe, for Reafons above alleged. My Volk employed his Agents here in Town, ro find out from among the two.Ships Companies, fuch as might vTn . ??^o,'° "^^'^^^ °" ^^^ ^^^^« i but this was as a Biflc m his Sleeve, his Sheet Anchor •, in cafe I could not be wrought upon to become his Inftrument, to pulh his private Views, under the Mask of public Ad- vantage, and at the public Expence. Mr. Smith, ac cordingly addreflcd himfelf to me, to write to, and give Mr. Dohbs hopes of a Paflage, though I thought otherwife. I muft own, he made me a great Com- pliment in this Propofal ; for it evidently fliews. that he thought me both Knave and Fool ; his Views in N. W. n h as is , fi£liti- eams of he only putc our nee i he capable refore to lade, to h, or to ;e. But or the He has iudforfs- by terri- ) intimi- % Difco- is to be I during •er Wit- >rocured the two ingly I r. Dobk ind out IS might s was as : I could lent, to blicAd- 3zVi>, ac- to, and thought t Com- Ihews, s Views f '33 ) v^l I ^Yu^' "' f^"'""^ '° "'"y '"ean Capacity • For had I been weak, and difhoneft enoueh to haL figned the Falfity required of me by hisTiend Mr Smub, he undoubtedly hoped he might induce the &.vernment to enter upon a fecond Attempt of a Difcovery , and had he herein fucceeded. we may 1 rade, to have reap'd a very connderable Advan- wge. by carrying on a clandeftine, or open one. in teftion of h|s Majefty's Ship, or Ships of War For ,n fuch Cafe, I muft have become Mr. Dclik ST' u^u ^"'u'"^ '"iplicitly into every Meafure he (hould have been p eaftd to prcfcribe me. Fa ! ther, as he is himfelf convinced, and his Letters prove It, of the Impraaicability of a Paflhge being Admiralty-Board by throwing the whole Blame upon me, who had given him the hopes of a Difcove^ If a fecond Attempt was made s and I had been pre! eluded from even offering at my Defence, by fuch Letter as was required of me to write, being produced ?ail'.rn"rf "'''' v't^'"'" "S^'^ft "^^- B"' having ^il d in this weak Attempt, he had recourfe by th! means ofhis Agent tohis Sheet Anchor, the fearchine among the Ship's Company if Tools fit for htsPur? pore, who had more Regard to Intereft than Con- faence, might not be found. It is true, this is a Conjeaure only, but cannot be thought an unreafon- =ble one, if the Reader will refleft on the Evidence his Witncffes have given in of their Incapacity of ludgmg of Sea. Affairs, the one a Surgeon. W other heir efpcaive Charafter (hewn by Fals ; that of ^e Clerk in particular, by Men of Credit, as will be feen m the Jfpm& ; ,he Impoffibilities rhad they iHren capable of being Spies upon mv Aclions) ot tkir difcovering any wilful Neglect in my not '^ i fearching < i.j 1 »> i I m •, ( ^34 ) fcarching Inlets, l^c. as the whole Ship's Company can atteft, they were very rarely, cither of them, upon Deck, This Step having been taken, and Succefs crown- ing the Hopes of my Antagoniflj that is, pro. per Witnefles having been found, I am attacked by an anonymous Letter, concerted, I may reason- ably fuppofc, between Mr. Dohbs's Agent and thefc pubiick-fpirited Gentlemen, his Witnefles. Mr. Dohbs, to be fure could know nothing of this Letter^ he was in Ireland, and how is it poflible that he fhould know what was here tranfafted ? But be that as it will, I am accufed of having impofcd upon the Public -, '* All Nature cries aloud, that there is a ** P#^^^"t. And thefe Gentlemen, TVygate ^nd ^hcmpfon, who wrote this anonymous Letter, are fure there is one from Hudfon'j-Bay to Japan, But I ihall fum up this Charge againfl: me, under thefollow^ ing Heads, which will take in every Thing material, Brji, Corruption, ^ Secondly, Wilful Negleft, in (lighting Informa, tions of Openings, ^c. in not fearching where it was moft likely to difcover a Paflage. ^ thirdly. Laying down falfe Tries, and a fidi- tioiis frozen Strait ; and endeavouring to deter others by intimidating Accounts, from all future Attempts, ' Fourthly, Making a Salt Water Strait, a freil^ Water River, I Ihall, under thefe different Heads, give the Reader the whole Strength of the Evidence Mr, Dohbs has brought to fupport each refpedive Accu^ fation, and in the oppofite Column, riot to burthen ^he Memory of my Reader, print my Defence ; fo that, at one View, he may take in the Sum of what is contained in Mr. Dobbs'^ Remarks, and the pre- peding Sheets, with fome Remarks, which hacj t y"4i tli.eir Lpiter, p. i|2, jn Mr. Pci>h\ Remarks, pfcaiDed ( I^f ) efcapeJ me, and have a fiir State of the Cafe on cither Side, and may thence accordingly form his Judgment. I. I. To prove thfc firft Charge, Mr. Dobbs tcils the Public, that I con- fefled to him the Offer of 5000 /. from the Hud- fon'i-Bay Company, to conceal the Paflage if ciifcovered ; or to fearch for one by StraitsD^t'/j j he however drops ihe Charge, andfuppofes that I accepted the Bribe of 120 /. fer Annum ^ for two Years, and infinuai'es that there was. farther Advan- tages in fome private Ar- ticle in my Treaty wirli the Company ; for by the 'Evidence of Mr. 4»' ■-! Wygate, I had boaftcd to Mr. Ellis ^ o'i the Victu- alling-Office, that I could be, whenever I pleafed, a Diredlor of thd kitd- fon*sBay Company. As a farther Evidence to prove my CorriTption, Mr. Wy^aie and thompfon charge me with Words, which muft {jut ic out of ail Difpiite, inz. that I iti/%iii.-] i-».^» — ■ t -4 - t^ * 1 vTv/.uv.i uw a uctLcr rncna to tlie Company than I abfohitely deny, that the Company or any one on their Behalf ever of- fered me one fingle Shil- ling, to either conceal the PafTage or fearch for itcontrarytomylnflruc-' tions, or that I ever told Mr. Dyhat he fays makes a/ ga.infl: the Pepofjtion, Words fpok^, Mr. Moor in the Place quoted in the oppofite Column, they are, that he heard me fay I could md^it the Paflage, and no Man on board fliould know whether there was one or not. Here is a very eflcntial Diffe- rence between the Words would and could^ the for^ mer makes Nonfenfe, and the latter fhews my Contempt of the Igno* ranee of thofe, whom, at that Time, I reproached with their Vain-boaftings. I acknowledge that I faid I could make the Voyage, ^c, and 'tis Truth. As to the fubfequent Words, they differ in this Charge, in the Words evtr and expe£led^ ufed by Mr. Dohbs^ printed in my Vindication, p. 48. I faid it was in my Power to be a better Friend to the Company than they €i(pe£led. If the Reader will give himfelf the Trouble to perufe their, Letter to the Lords Df the Admiralty, diredled to Mr. Corbett^ the Se- cretary, in the following S2%« VTlil Obferve, that they wer§ wnder ( I .,. II The fecond Head of Accufation, which, with the fubfequenr, - are to farther prove my Corrup. tion, as that is to prove thefeveraJHeadsofmy Accufation, is wilfuINee. M. ((c. To fupport this, the Public is in- formed, that I knew from Lovegrove and nrh^rc «* Churchill, that there were Openings at Un^ale-Cove, m ) under great Apprehend- ons from my Voyage, 'lot onJy of an Infrinle^'- ment upon, but even of the Ruin of their Trade and as I was refolved to g've them no Caufe, by iuffmng a clandeftinc 1 rade to be carried on tocomplain hereafter thaJ their Fears were but too' well grounded : And by Wing this Refolution.' i proved a better Friend ' rh/ ^S'^P'"^ than they expeiftcd ; but I fear ' my fo doing, is the real Ground of JVf r. Boh}^^ /Inveteracy, and the Ac- cufations he has brought^ againftme, vide ^, L . 7f • ^^ P'-eceding ShectJ fwcr ""^'^ P^'^^^"^ar An. IJ. I anfwer, that thefe Openings are meer In- yentjonsjastomyhavincr information from Lov^, i^^l^^^^re is no Proof; andMr.Z}.^^,couIdonlJ haveitbyHear-fayfrori oneofhistwoWitnefles, ^ygateovThompfon', foj Lcwe^rove himfeJf is at y^ourcmU m North Ame- rtca, and if he had by ■Letter acquainted Mr. Dohhs 1 i I \ 111 ,; ii ( i;8 ) i ' ! ■ 1^. . in 62<* 30', and from the Lieutenant, that there was alfo an Opening at Mar- ble I/land, In p. J s* of Mr. Dohb*s Remarks, he fays, that from the Journal he had difcovered, that I had nighted all the CoaHr, where the Paflage was moft promifing. In p. 18. he gives in the l^after's Evidence, \yho overlooked all the Iflands to the Northward, whicli were between the Branch they were in, and the main Channel, and faw beyond them a fair open Channel four or five Leagues wide, the Courfe runiiing S. W. betwixt hi^h broken Lands j the faid Mailer would have gone farther to have try'd tlie Current and Strait he faw, but the Lieutenant told him, his Provifions were fpent, and that , He had eJfceeded his War- rdnt in going fo far, and ftayingfo long, and durfl: tranlgrefs no farther : To which the faid Mafter replied. To whai Purpofe an i9ie come fo far ^ ifU be not to make a DiXcoverv of ibiiPraJfage, Again, the iVkCi Dohhs with having given me any Information of a- ny Opening or Openings at IVhale-Cove, he ought, to engage the Belief of the Public, to have print- ed fuch Letter in his Jp- pendix ; but indeed this Opening, and theLieut.'s Marble I/land are the Fruits of a fertile Inven- tion. I have fhewn in p. 10. that it was impof- fible for the Lieutenant to make fuch Difcovery jbut it is obfervable that nei- ther his, nor any Journal, not even Mr. Dobb*s fa- vourite wafteLogg-book makes any Mention of thefe imaginary Open- ings. Surely the Lieute- nant, had I been guilty of fo flagrant, fo bare-fac*d, wilful a Negteift of Du- ty, would, as it was his, have taken particular No- tice of it ; and could not, as an honeft Manj but have accufed me at our Return, to the Lords of the Admiralty, of a de- fign to defeat the Difco- very : But farther, Cuy^ who was with the Mafter higher up the River PVa- (Tfir rli in nn\r nrKpf rvf tK.> two Ships Companies, and I \ I faid Mafter faw, near Deer Sound, Jarge WhaJes, as true black Whales as any ^"^ Greenland, which he iaid muft have come from the Weftward, and never came in at the Eaft En- trance of the River JVa~ ger from the IVelcome, or they wouJd have been ieen below. .-P. 19. The Mailer told Mr. Bohh\ that there was no Ice near. I^eer-Sound, to prevent our Paffage, nor any to the Weftward of the Bluff they were at, but all was an open Sea : That by the Obfervations he had made of the Tide near Brook Cobbam, there were great hopes of a Paflage there ; that he had afked leave of the Captain to go on Shore to obferve them, but was refufed. This the Clerk affcrts, in his Anfwer to ^ery i^^ P' 182. in my Vwdica- tion% for he heard me ^^W the Mafter that he lliould not go a-lhore again till he came to England. The Surgeon in Anfwer to the fame '^tery, f^iys, That when m Mafter W4S defirous 19 ) and who is the Man Mr. Dchhs allows a material Witnefs, has fworn, that . he faw none of thefc ypenings. See his ^^^i davit in the folkwim ^p^. feudlx. ■' In Anfwer to this Di/1 covcry from my Journal^ , ol flighiifig the Coaft- where it was moftpromi,, ^i"gJ I fay, it is a bare Afil'rtjon o^Uv,Dohbs:^ He6nghttohavepointed, out if J]e had expede^i Credif, that pa,t of my Journal, in which . h^ made this Difcovery j for, I aver %it we left no; probable part of th^. Shores unfaarch^d.'^iip; Mafter in Anfwer to th^- 1 2 th ^uery, p, ,7^;^ in my Vindication^ {1,^^^. we made fure to fearch all . theWeftShore, fo near' as to fee all th^ Bottoms oftlieBaies, and plainly, make it main Land; thac we took all neceffary Prer ^ cautions, that we mighc mils no Place which ap«; peared like Openings or inlets. That we were within 3 or 4 Leagues of moft Places- and y/hers Jt was bold within 2 Leagues, and were fure i'i ii K. I, 1 I 1 , 'I . Ij T n'lf. ihtft' ( 140 ) to go afhore on account of of the main Land all the the Tide zt Marble- IJIand Way. The Log-book fifing 22 Foot, the Cap- fhews, that on the loth tain told him, He (hould of jlu^ujf^ we were be damn'd before he went at 8 o'CIock within 3 aShore again, till he came Leagues j nay even at 4 to England. Both he and that Morning, we were the Clerk, in the fame within 4 or 5 Leagues of p. 182. vouch, theWea- the main Land, and in ther was fine, the major 35 Fathom Water by the part of, or almoft the Log. At 10 the faid whole Voyage; as the Morning, the Log fhews. Surgeon in particular we kept as near Land, as fays. This was in our we could, in 25, 26 Fa- Return, thorn Water ; the Lieutc- P. 26. ditio. The nant's Journal nth Day Lieutenant fays, there is Fide the Navy - Ofiice, great Probability of an proves, that we kept as Opening on the Weft near the Shore as we {Side, by the coming in could, to fee if there were of the Whales. The any Openings or Paffages Whales coming in from in the Land i and conti- the Weft ward, which nued failing in Sight of fpeaks the Probability of the main Land of the an Opening on the Weft North Shore, quite from Side, is fupported by the Cape Hope. That by Surgeon's Anfwer to ^e- ccafting along the Shore ry 4, ^. 161, 162. Km- of the fTelcome, from the dication : Where he fays, frozen Straits, he found *Tis my real Opinion, it was the main Land, tho' that thofe Whales come there are feveral Iflands in at the Weft End of anddeepBaysjthatwefaw ff^ager ' River -, from the Bottom of them in whence he alfo judges, our Return, and by keep- that there is great Proba- ing clofc in Shore, we bability of a Paflage from fa w feveral black Whales, 142, \,\J c C7. TTT Cll- ward. And the Clerk J owns [f'''klep. 141 I43» T/W.) fwcars that we ( 141 ) P 28 M. r, i.1 '^"''•^ '"""• 'hat we fayfthe S W V/"**' 7"' '^^^ °f 'he main never trifrtY/n'T ^''"'^ '^^ ''«= Way be- or below W«^^ Cf.^,^, ^^^^ ^ pofe"t K'^o T"- f"''^"" °f 'f^* -^-n paffed op^p^l e' to^^^ Land.exceptinoneor.wo C/,«*.j iy""tc to i7^ ( 142 ) ■nl cd the Bays within them for Inlets or Openings, and never once attempted to fend my Boat on Shore. To fiipport which, he gives in the Evidence of the Lieutenant, Sui^eon, and Clerk, whofaid they could only fee the Tops of Mountains at a Di- Itance, here and there, as it were in the Clouds. The Lieut, alfo fupports this Charge in his Anfwer to ^ery 12. in the follow- ing Words : *' 1 could •* never properly diftin- *' guifh the head Lands " in our Return from ** Cape Frigid to Brook *' Cobham, and did not *' come nearer to the " Weft Shore ^han 5 or ** or 6 Leagues. We fearched neither Inlets nor Bays, nor came we near enough to any Land to the Weft ward «« «< C( «c tc to diftinguifli it." The Surgeon makes the fame Anfwer in almoft the fame Words. And the Clerk fays, that it ap- pears from different Jour- nals and Log-books, that we were not nearer to tiiab x^anCi \ triat is Weft Shore, than 5 or \omng Appendix, p. ^g. lays, on our return from C. Frigid to Brook Cohhain^ we were fometimes 2, 3, and 4 Leagues from the Shore, but not often much farther. It's true, at ^ Night, we laid the Ships too, that we might pafs by no place undif- covered, that appeared like Openings ; and fome- times we plied to Wind- ward, to hold our own 'till clear Weather and Day-light, but faw no Appearance of any O- penings, all along from the firtheft wc went to Brook - Cobharn, except JVager River and the frozen Straits -, all the Weft fide, main Land and very high. Guy fwears, (Vide the Apperi' dix, p. 4.) That all the way between the River JVager and the Latitude 6'^° or Brook' Cobham, they were fure of the main Land, and were never about 3 or 4 Leagues off', excepting in one or two Places } where, meeting with flioal Water, we lay too in the Night-fime, and thick Wcaijier, that we might not ( 143 ) S «; in« ,^ ^ !"''fn.'>nd flood ii Shore wetail, {5-^: in jO. 30, 3 , . ,„ the Day ; and thnr off ftews that I might have the head Land t 6^ fenttny Boat on Shore, and 20, we were not 2 A3 a Proof of this, I Leaeuel from l • towed the Ships out' of FaS W te ' ; '" w? ^"i^r R,ver, with two coafted all alo S Shore mm. Thirdiy on the Cooper, Iverfon, Monro ielf, but on the 9th, roth, ^^^^v 6 Ti .V • :.nhand..thftnyMe^ f^.^-^^-^ our nTBoa dlT? r1 -^'"^^'heLani^alla^rg noeoat dw(l be trufted very plain, and keot a1 wtthe'r '5 'n'oT h '" tI "^ '<«= ^-^fand weatter, and not hazy, IHands would permit ui as I affirmed, and there all the Way from K' Rom"°thi°c''' ''r • 'r ^«'" 'o ^-S: M have raid on this Sdom^'b^t" ? oT^ Head, (j a l l j/g«;» £. Leaeues ofF tl,» cu ''^ ^-a/?.*, andrruh torn- (^c^ LlJ ^°"'j this he proves by the Sur- In Anfwerfo>»,^v 8 Booksat the Admiralty ; never any Sufpicion of fc tt V^/Et Sfr"^^'"^ "^^'f ""^' board rh. 77. ^ ,. °" Difcovery ; on the Con- DOdrd tne turnace^ there rrirv f]-,o^ t were hnr « „r,r«. • ui ^' "^^^ ^ encouraged were but 8 unferviceable. every Officer and Man in In the fume, ;.. 3 x, by his Endeavous TZ^. wayofinrerrogation, he one. Seep \^' l^Z charges me with never J,pe>^,,, /^.^f The m I li' ■> w 1 ••1 '^ 1' 1 J 1 ||.| i< '3 'i ; .' * \' rf ){ !l ■ if '1 |1 ia L, jj t 1 \f' f k' '"' ' if k. 45 V iii f 1 I'; ( H+ ) fuffering any Pcrfon to The Mafter's Evidence go afhore, to try the given in by Mr. Dobhs, FJood. is from his Minutes, after He next charges me, the faid Mafter had left that I quitted the Difco- him, as he fays in^. i8. very when I left ff^a^er of his Remarks Confe- S trait, on the 3dofyf«jf. quently it is Mr. Dobbs an open bold Paflage *, whofpeaksforhim,what- leading S. W. the only ever he thinks moft con- Courfe wiflied for. That ducivc to fupport his Ac- I negleded the Difco- cufations ; and is to be very by going N. E. and confidered in no other returning from Cape Fri- Light, than mere Inven- ^fdf without fearchingany tion. And I think it is Inlet. I'hat when 1 was evident to a Demonftra- informed of a fair Open- tion, that the Mafter ing -f, and a ftrong Tide could not, and did not of Flood from the Weft- fay, what Mr. Dobbs ward, I would not fufFer minuted, the Moment he it to be tried. Farther, left the Room, from this In p, 44. he fays, that one Particular, w'z. That I allow Mr. Rankin's he would have gone far- Opening, which the Sur- ther up the River JVager^ geon -alfo faw from the but the Lieutenant for Top - maft - Head ; but one Reafon, for his not ^1 • This Account of an open bold Paflage, is fupported not only by what the Mafter faid to Mr. Dobbty but by the addi- tion^ Account from the Lieutenant ; who fays, he went up a Mountain, from whence he faw a large and fpacious Strait, leading away to the Southward of the Weft, or W. S. W. or more Southerly by Compafs. See p. 63. of Mr. DobbU Remarks. f This Opening, and a ftrong Tide of Flood from the Weft- ward, is fupported by the Lieutenant, />. 153. in myVindica' tion. He there gives a Draught of the Cove upon Brook-Cob- ham, or Marble I/land; and fays, the Tide came in fuddenly from the W. N. W. round the North Weft end of the Ifland. And farther, that when he defired to go thither, I faid it did not fignify much, ^ff. agreeing nothing could induce me agreeing to it, faid. that to ftffer it to be trjed. his ProvWonsVere fpent , In^ 51 He charges yet the faid Matter knew T *»'i '"*''J"g 5'"^^ "-at they hadTtoard ofmy Men; by obliging the Boat mo whSeS •hem to lie upon their But the Matter will hi; fellies upon the Surface Sequel fpeakfor Mm ofthe Iceto cut the Ship's fel?. L he has doneTn loofe. for no other Rea- Anfwer to %eTA fon but to frighten them with regard tShin^ lucn^ a Voyage again 5 Anfwer flatly contradir^^ Of their Hardftiips to in- fupported by all his Wit! tm»date others. AVhere- ne^s. thatVt^'nVve; as the Slavery was mtire- fearched at all But ly ufdefs ; for Nature to ihew the grea Impr " does ,n a few Days, all bability of his hXe had ^n fZ ?'="°"' ''eld,w'ithMr.^iCh! orsTtt^tri-: rr*4tr« m HuJ^,n', Straits, for before the^Ser the fome Days in Sjp,. is a- Anfwer he gavfinm he another intimidating E- Admiralty,^ under £ ^ Mr.- Z).«, has before a"dt' l-IX't'th ' axed me with threatning To the forme he ^1" bJ^v, T" t'" *"' " J have heard the Cap Boxe who kept Journals, « tain fay, that he woufd and taking their Books « put up with all that " could be endured, ra- and Papers from them. In his Remarks, p. 6t. he fays, M hody pre. tends that he durfi hinder the Lieutenant, and Ma- per from keeping Jour- " ther than the Difco- " veryfliouldbebaulk'd. He never hindered ""/ *./Uuy liurn Keep- ** ing what Account they cc cc I li . ''ii '' p. 1l ■I -I it 'rt \il I* W . 70. Mr. mhs Side by the coming n of taxes me w.th putting Whales, I afk°f"om tJ J^"'^ '" * 'Whence did thefe Whales trary to their Inclinations, grounds this great Pro as they were defirous to bability ? He never to°d come to England: For I me of this PmbaW i y apprehe^ed they would he never mentioned it'^to make aDAovery, whieh the Lords of the AdmU SI FT^'"' '^l fltyiconfequently failed Scheme I had entered in his Duty In his An What that Scheme was, he faw a great Openinl he has before Ihewn to be or large Colleaion of a Concealmentof the Paf- Waters? to "he North TaXlT^T^"'- w-dofthelflandswhth nM« Ocean To fup- were in tlie River ^viz port this he has the Evi- mger) or Strai ; ; and dence of his two Wit- there appeared b cken * : • i""! high and pioiintain- t Videf/W. p. 1 36 ,8-. I 7 01J9 I 1 ( hS ) This Charge of Cm- ous as the Cape of Geoi elty, is fiipporteci by the Hope, But this unhap, Sufgeon and Clerk's An- pily contradids his new, iwer to%^rv thei 8th, p. additionalAccount,/>.62, i88, 189, in Mr. Dohbs\ 6'^^ Remarks : Where he Remarks. Tlic former faw large fpacious Straits, fliys, that ihcCapt. order'd leading to the Southward them into an old, leaky of the W. or W. S. W. Boat with two Oars, a or more Southerly ; buc Maft and Sails, which no body ever faw any neither of them knew Whales much above D^^r how to manage. One Sotmd, &c. and he was of them cried very much then 15 or 20 Leagues at the Apprchenfions of above that Place The the Dangers they fliould Lieut, in his Anfwer to be expoll'd to, far from ^^iery 4, p. 161. fays, their Families, in a I law a great number of flrange Place, in the black Whales of the rnidit of their mortal Whalebone kind, in and Enemies ; who would near Deer Sound, and no firfl: fcalp them, and then where elfe, except at devour them. But all Brook-Cohham. Ifhefaw this would not prevail on them no where elfe, ex- the Captain; for they ct^idX Brook- Cohham^ht were aftually forced over certainly faw none 15 or the Ship's Side into the 20 Leagues above Deer Boat, towed afliore up- Sound •, neither had he on Marble JJland, and Reafon to imagine, that there left in the Latitude diefe Whales came in 63°. The Clerk only through the Channels, fays, the Indians were bounded by broken defirous of coming to Lands on the Weft Side. Englandy and with ach- Indeed, thefe Channels ing Hearts, poor Crea- are imaginary, without tures, were put on Shore, we can fuppofe, that the He then refers to the Lieut, could fee and di- Surgeon's more particu- ftinguifh Channels about lar Account. 06 nr 'oc\ Milpc Hiftinr from ( I have now placed in their full Light, all the lividence Mr. Dobh iias given in to fupport this Head of wilful Negled I don't believe I have omitted the Icaft Thino- that he has advanced to fupport that Charge: But It 1 have chanc'd to over- look any thing EfTential, ithasbeenundefignedly; and upon the lealt Hint, fhall be ready to ac- knowledge it, and give in a full Anfwer. Where- fore I fhall proceed to the third Head of his Ac- cufations ; which is lay- ing down falfe Tides, and ^titious frozen Straits, H9 ) from him as from Deer 6'wWto the Weft Shore. The Mailer, in Anfwer to the fame ^^ery, Ihys, the Whales we law about Deer Sound, I believe came in at the Mouth of ^^^ andmann'd, and info bad a State of Health, that he verily believes that next under God all their Lives areowing to the Captain's Vigilance and Conduft ; and that ifhe (the Captain) had died, they fliould icarce have ever feen En- gland again. Richard Guy fwears. much cq the fame Purpofe, and almoft'h the (IJ+) U -iir J « : in iff.' $/'^ w i the fame Words, as Van Sobriek, Fid, the yipp. p, 30. and feq. Mr. Carew fays, in anfwer to ^«(?ry the 20th. Vid, the y^^. j>. 64. That the People were overjoy'd, to hear we were returning from our fartheft, on account of their bad State of Health, and Hardfhips they underwent, on Board of both Ships. Indeed this laft Evidence is ge* neral, but the many fore- going are particular enough to evince what Credit ought to be given to that of the Surgeon, one of the Crutches of Mr. Dohbsh lame Caufe. I quitted, fays Mr. Dohhs^ the Difcovery, at Wager^River : I anfwer. No, I quitted the Dif- covery at Brook-Cohham, As to the Matter's Evi- dence, of an open, bold PafTage, be it remem- bered, that it is Mr. Dobhs*s ownEvidence,gi- ven in from his Minutes which he made of the Difcourfe he had with the Mafter ; as to the large and fpacious Strait, leading away to the Southward ot the Weft, the upper end of ( Iff ) of JVager-River^ men- tioned in the Lieutenant's additional Account 5 I never had any Informa- tion of it, till I read Mr. Bobhsh Queries, and . the Lieutenant's Ipacious Strait, ^c, I was entirely a Stranger to, as much as I believe, that Officer himfelf (who in anfwer to ^ery 2. faw a great Opening to the North- ward) till Mr. Dobbs wrote his Remarks, As to the Lieutenant's Draught of the Cove ac Marble IJland, it is, I be- lieve, a Dream of his, fince he return'd to En^^ land, or an Invention to which he has been wife enough to lend his Name ; for he owns himfelf, it was almoft dark; how then could he difcover an Opening .? However, it makes againft his Dif- coyeryofanyTide: For it is well known, that the Waters are ftagnated in all Coves ; confequently, his W. N. W. Tide. is a Fiflion. Farther, the Mouth of this Cove, faces the S. E. wherefore inilcad of being in the Cove, * f.:'[-\ I' I \%i ( if<5 ) Cove, and in ftagnated Water, had he been at the Mouth or Entrance, to obferve the Tides, he muft have found them come in from the S. E. as the Entrance of the Cove lies. But 1 4 or 1 6 Points , oftheCompafsDifference, is but a Trifle with Mr. Dobbs and Rankin, either in Tides or Bearings. Mr. Dobbs, when he fays, I allow Mr. Ran- kings Opening, ought to point out the Place where I make this Conceflion. That the Surgeon faw, an Opening as much as the Lieutenant, I readily grant 5 for, on my Con- fcicnce, I fincerely be- , lieve, neither the one nor the other, thought of fuch an Opening, till fome Months after they re- turned from the Voyage -, tho' Mr. Dobbsy has very gravely improved it to a ihort Paflage to the Weftern American Ocean in the Draught he has publilhed. As to tiie Slavery I made my "Men undergo, it was no more than what was neccifsry for the Ser- vice, and ihe greateft Care tagnated been at Entrance, 'ides, he id them S. E. as he Cove 6 Points fFerence, i^ith Mr. «, either ings. when he [r. Ran- )ught to ce where nceffion. n faw, an h as the readily ny Con- rely be- one nor tof fuch II fome hey re- /^oyage ; bas very :d it to to the « Ocean he has ivery I ndergo, an what the Ser- greateft Care ( ^57 ) Care was taken of them; to alleviate their Fatigue, and to prevent any ill Confequences from the Cold i I have fully an- fwer'd this, in the Jaft Paragraph, p, 63. which I defire the Reader to pe- rufe. But the Teftimony offomany of my Men, with regard to my hu- mane Treatment of them all, ought to be fufficient to fcreen me from this Imputation of Cruelty. As the cutting out of the Ships, was a Work of Neceffity, I could not fet them upon it, to frighten them from undertaking the fame Voyage again, or to inti- midate others from the re- lation of their HardOiips. Mr. Dobbsy gives up the Charge of difcourag- ing my Lieutenant, ^c. And fays, I appre- hended the Surgeon and Clerk keeping Journals : He might as well have faid the Cook ; nay, it was more probable I ihould, as ^ very often a good SailorisinthatPofl:, who may make Obfervations of theTimp ihatjf^.., r.-L ,,,^ mivy iav.- JUtil 'i i and fuch Land s, or ar* rived (lys) b 'I! I -f! J. rived at fuch and fuch Ports. But the Mafter, in anfwcr to ^ery 5. fays, t never hindered any body from keeping What Ac- count they would ; that I was ready to inftrudfc any ; and fhewed feveral how to keep Journals. In anfwer to ^ery 20* he fays, both he himfelf, and the Lijutenaiiti had ex- perienced the Benefit of my Inftrudlions. ^owns fwears, he never heard I threatned to punifh any Man, for offering his Mind with Freedom, a- bout the Conduft ufed in the intended Difcovery* Van Sohriek fwears, I took Pains and Care to inftruft the Ignorant. Grant fwears, the fame as Towns, and pretty near in the fame Words. Cooper fwears, that I ne- ver threatned to punilh any Man, for fpeaking his Mind about the Dif- covery. John Donaldfon^ Iverfon, Monro, Gill, all Men on board the Fur- nace, anfwer to §iiery 10 i and are ready to feal that Anfwer^ with their Oaths, that I never threatned to take away any Books from any bo- dy 5 nd fuch after, in ;. fays, i ly body hat Ac- 5 that I idfcany ; ral how ds. In 2o< he felf, and had ex- ncfit of 'Towns heard I ilh any ng his lorn, a- ufed in bovery* ears, I Care to jnorant. le fame tty near Words, at I ne- punifh >eaking le Dif- naldfon^ tUI, all le Fur- ^ery idy to * with [ never away .ny bo- dy 5 ( I5P ) dy ; but on the contrary; encouraged every Pcrfon on Board. Carew never heard of any Threats* yide his Anfwer to ^ery 179 ^PP' p. 62. Now I think, this Readinefs to inftruft the Ignorant, Camong whom were Mr. Dobhfs three Friends; two of whom, wrote moft of my Accounts during the Voyage, and had all my Keys and Papers in their Pofleffion or Power) amounts to almoft a De- monftration, that I could not have a Defign to conceal the Paflage. The next Charge of my threatning the Sur- geon, with regard to his correfponding with the Miam, is ridiculous and abfurd ; as every one, on board the Ship, knows that he was ignorant of their Language, and that they could not fpeak £»^liA Fid. Anfwer to the 9th ^ery, by Do^ mldfon, &c. p. 50. in the 4>iD^«iw; which flat- ly contradids the Sur- geon's Evidence. Governor JJham*s Let- mentions the Arrival of 0- "" ( 1- ^f r- VS one §.' ii i n>- riii! m (ido) one of thefe Indians. The Mailer of the Furnace^ in anfwer to ^uery i8. fays, the Boat was very well, and they might cafily manage her. Towns fwears, they went volun- tarily into a good, tight Boa': i which he faw well V .\:ulL'd two Days before, as it was his Bufinefs, being Boatfwain of the Bifcovery. Grant {wesLrs^ they departed in a good, tight Boat, highly pleafed with what I had given them. Cooper fwears, they both feemed highly pleafed, and willing to depart ; and they both went voluntarily into the Boat , which was a good tight one, without the leaft forcing. G?o; fwears, that after the Indians de- parted from the Ships, he was two Nights a- Ihore with them, at Mar^ hie IJland\ faw them work their Boat with Oars and Sails, and that they had but two Leagues to the main Land. The Surgeon fays, that they were fet alhore, in a Itrange Place, which was in th- Latitude of 6^° ; both he, and the Clerk but M ( t6i ) the CJerk, tells us, p: 147- of Mr. Do^bj's Remarks, that about the Latitude of 63% they feemed to have more Knowledge of the Land than in any other Partof our. Difcovery. Nay, they were fo weli ac- quainted about the Lati- tude 63% that Meflieura ^hompfon and tVygate fay, that when we faiJed to the North Eaftward of that Latitude, the /«. diam toJd them, we were going from the Copper Mines. The Proverb fays, that People of a certain Charafter, ought to have good Memories. My Apprehenfion of thefe Indians making a Difcovery, had I brought them to England, is too ridiculous for Notice. I dare fay, Mr. DohU himfeJf, though he has made it a Charge againft me, does not believe it : For allowing, that they could in a Ihort Space of Time, be perfedl in the Englifh, how could they difcover a Paffage of which they themfelvea arc Ignorant ? Or, if they knew of fuch a Paflfage, (^re^ 1 " ii .■'I. * ; -! (., 1 (I41) is 1 i ■-r*. : i 1 ■' w hi bi :rt .'it'j III. The third Mead of fe 4ccui*attons, is lay- log down ^alfe Tides atia fi^itious Straits ; to tupcort the former of ^1^2 Heads, he fays,/>. 45, of his Remarks^ That be ipras informed i^ me, fiial I left the Sh^ be- twixc $ and 10, and got 4$iore at 1 1 , wheii (3 I am to be believed) it was ebbing Water ; tliough by his own ConfeiCon, it £owed till I ; ibr which I i^fk t^ardoa, and Leave to re^radb, but 'tis too xnaterial a Point to be fiven up. P. 37. Mr. , )ohbs fays, I argue a- gainft an Opening to- ward the luaTid becw^u diredb any other to find ic, knowing nothing of Geography^ &c, I am fully convinced that there is none ; without it is fo far to the North, that it is impradlicable to come near it for incelTant Ice. But I (hall now, as I have fully anfwered this Head of Negleft, proceed to the third. III. ' I acknowledge my Midake ; I faid it was high Water juft at Sun- fet, about 7, whereas the Sun at that Time, fat a little after 8 •, 'and that it was owing to a failure of Memory, is evident, from the Council held the 8th Day of Juguft : Where 'tis faid, Capt. Middle^ ton went alhoar in the Boat, and found it flowed 1 5 or 1 6 Foot, 3 Days af- ter the Full, and a W. by S. Moon made high Water. Mr. Lobhs has often attempted, but no where proved this Head of Accufation, of my Ija* ving lain down falfe i ides 'f and we may fee. it .ind the Beach, bfcauf^ no Tide was obferved there ; which rather fup- ports what he had fhid, and fliews, that there was no Strait to caufc a ftrong Tide. He dien gives the Lieutenant's Obferva- tions, that at lo in the Morning, a ftrong Tide forced the Ship to the Northward : Farther, the Boatmen told me, the Flood went to the North- ward. Pa^e sS. Mr. ^o^bs charges me with a •fallacy, to impofe upon the Pubhc ; that if the Tide flowed in 48'", in- ftead of 12'' 48'".. p. . 39' he fays, he has not mifreprefented the Affair of the Boats being carried out by the Ebb Current ; that the Lieutenant faid, exprefly, before the Ad- miralty, that he was ear- ned out by the Tide of Ebb, S. W. round Cape Mbsi the Clerk fays, that the Lieutenant, and Mafter, have often af- firmed this for Truth, though the Jatter now prevaricates.— .p. 40. the Lieutenant's Reporl of s,t half an Hour after 4 M hyhis catching at a Mi- Itake of an Hour, as to the Tides flowing, how gJadJy he would fupporc this Suggeftion. I avcr^ and have the Teftimony of alJ the Ship's Com. pany, and the Evidence of Journals to prove, that I mifs'd no proper Op- portunity to try the Tides ; and that I have Jaid them down, as we found them flow, as near as could be expeded in fo fliort a Time : But I maintain, ic is impoffible to be exadt ; and fo far I may, notwithfl:anding my utmoft Care, and my Endeavours to the beft of my Knowledge, be faid to have laid them down hlfdy. But Mr. Dohbs would have it thought, that I have dif« gulfed the Tides with a Deflgn to conceal the Difcovery, and polTibly to miflcad fuch as may hereafter attempt it. Wiierefore, as he fecms to labour this Point with indefatigable Pains, I fliall endeavour to give particular Anfwers to all he alledges to prove his Pofition, and the frozen > ' ti i u i I.'' Scraits, ■i4 m ( iouc of the River ff^agerjyrc met the Flood- tide from the Eaft ward, , where we difcovered the Frozen Straits^ and tried the Tide every Hour or 2 Hours with our current Logg, and remember the Mafter lofl: a Grap- pling, and that the Tide ran 4 Knots in the New S trait s^ of which they are ready and willing to make oath. — Mr. Carew alfo proves in his Anfwer to the Queries in the Ap- pendix, p. 52. the Tides coming from the Eaft- ward. — Governor Kelfey in his Journal 1720, takes Noticcjthat in Lat. 63^ North, on the Weft Side of the Welcome,^ the Tide comes from the N. E. which is near the Courfe of the Welcome ; he calls it a foaking Tide, and fays it flows neap and fpring Tides from 12 to 17 Foot. Vide Z)o^^i's Remarks p. 116. — Mr. Dobbs in his Let- ter to me 05f. 20, 1742, cxpreffes himfelf in the following Manner. "All " the fine Hopes formed ** from Fox and Scroggfs •♦ Ac- ( 171 ) " Account are quite va- *' nifli'd, nothing being " agreeable to their Jour- " nals, but the black *' Whales you obferved " near Brook Cohham^ " and that the Tides "flow at the JVelcoms " from the N. E. agree " pretty much with Fo:^% •* Account ; fince you " found a W. by N. '* Moon made High- " Water in G^"". 20'. and •* in 66°. 40'. an E. by S. " Moon made High " Water, which prove *'that the Tide of ** Flood proceeds from ''e6\ 40' to the mu '* come \ and Brook Cob- " haniy and not the Tide " from the Southward of *' Carefs Swam Nefi, With regard to what Mr. Dotfhs iays in p. 45 of his Remarks it hap- pens unluckily for him to have printed from the Waftc Logg-book, which has put down the Tide from the Eaft 3 Knots off of the Eaft End of Marble IJland. Tburfday the 1 2th of yiu^ufiy which was the Evening before *-irm T •Ai<»<».^_*, ^L/! I the I ■% V': I =(>. ( I70 the Tide rofe fuddenly • to the Men's Waifts, and came from the Weftward ; the Moon was in her laft Quarter on the 1 2 th Day, fo that it mud be more than 2 Hours Flood at 8. On Thurfday Evening on the 1 3th when we lay too off the Eaft End of Marble IJand to try the Tide, we found it to come from the Eaft 3 Knots, as is mentioned in all Journals kept on board of the Furnace, as to the Tides being try*d, but the Strength of it, is not taken notice of, in either my Logg or Jour- nal, tho' I find it in the Mafter's and the Wafte Logg. Our Tryals of the Tides were not in Bays or Coves, where the Waters were ftagnated or remain'd inEddies,butin the fair Way 2 Leagues from the Eaft End of the Ifland, where nothing could alter its Direftion. Now Mr.Dobbs allowing it to be low Water at 6 at Night, confirms the Reality of the frozen Straits and all the Tides coming from the Eaft- ward, which 1 not only before ( 173 ) before proved, from Fox and Kelfefs former Ac- counts, but by the Wit- nefles,! before mentioned, and has moreover ruined, and brought to nothing his large fpecious Straits, and Rankirfs Openings. For a fartherConfirmation of theFlood*Tides com- ing from the Eaftward at Brook Cohbam^ Augufi i^ at 6 in the Evening, be- ing juft flood and almoft calm,we anchored to ftop Tide, and for the Boat, Wind at E. N. E. with our fmall Anchor ; See Logg and Journal, in 24 Fathom Water : The Mafter in his Journal fays the fame, and farther, that the Tide fat from the Eaftward, we were 6 or 7 Floods and Ebbs at Anchor off Marble I/Iand, marked the Lead- line ; when we firfl: let go our Anchor, we had 24 Fathoms at Low Water, and 26 4 at High Water. Every one that was upon Deck, mufl: remember our Head pointed with theEaftEndof thelfland, which bore Eafl: on the y-^nc jj.anxy fee Safchelts Affidavit in the * *.'t VltV -8 L\.-\ Appendix which has been irie linc'e c.^JiVas compof^d ^. FJood, t*# 4J '■'fi ^ fCi \l \\- ■-w IV. His 4th Head taxes me with making the JFager a freib Water Ri- ver, inftead of a fait Vv^ater Strait, this and the ether foregoing Head of Accufations Mr. Dobbs charges me with in his Vindication to the Lords ofthe Admiralty, where he iays I have forged a large frozen Strait to bring in the Tides and Whales, in Order to fiipport the Sclicme I had Iain, to conceal the Paflage. To make goodthis AfTcrtion, lie tells us p. 18, that { 174 ) FJood, and ourStern that way on the Ebb, I can- not impute this ConceiTion to Mr. Doblfs's Impartiali- ty, but to his Ignorance of Tides i the Knowledge of which, muft be the Bafis of all Difcoveries where any flow. — What I have faid is fufficient toconvince every rational judicious Man, that Mr. Dobb^s Weftern Tides ftom the Wcftern American Ocean are pure Invention, where- fore I need not purfue this Head any farther, but pro- ceed to the 4 th, and de- monftrate that the IVager is a frelh Water River and not afalt Water Strait. IV. I, X the (> the Mailer of the Fur- fme iafbrnied him, the Water w«s as fiUt in the H^f^^r^ as any he had taftcd in thofe Seas. Mr. ■ 'IMkts t€\k m p. ^4 in the id Line, that the Lieu- tftwntcxpwfly faid, the Water w ^Ur, b« filled three Bottles in different Places, not being a Judge htmfclf, and brought them down to the Ship, and they were found all equally fait ; farther the Mailer Mr. H^ilfin who was at the Place, is quite filcflt in this nwerial Point, which Mr. Dobbs cftecms a Conviaion, that he knew the Water was fait ; Morrifon, Ar- mount and Ruvihlf fign the following Evidence, I am very fare the Water was as fait as could be, among fo much Ice as was in the Straits at that Time, and fuch a Quan- tity of Snow as was melt- ing up the High-land, and of this,they are ready to make Affidavic. Vide Page 156 and 157 of Remarks i in Page 153 Rerfiarks^ they fay the Water was very fait. — Mr, Moor ia Anfwer to IIiQ 75) The Information of the Maftcr of the Fur- mce^ I muft obferve, is from Mr. 'Dabbi^ own Minutes, and as we (hall immediatclyfee,pofitivcly contradifted by him be- fore the Lords of the Ad- miralty : The Lieutenant does not exprefly fay,Thc Water was fak in his Anfwer to Query i, his Words are thefe, «* th« "Water I /i&i»/t was fait; " but as I would not en- '* tirely depend upon my *' Own Judgment, I " filled 3 Bottles with " Water, (which indeed ** were but two)at 3 difFer- " ent Places,and was told ** they were all equally *' alike fait i " the Dif- fidence of thisGentleman, makes his Evidence a peer Chipp in Porridge, it is neither fornoragainft the Frefhnefs of the Wa- ter i he depends upon the Opinion of Others ; confequendy he is but a hear-fay Witnefs, and the Opinion of others which he reports of the Bottles being equally fair, fhews they were equally frefh. Mailer Wilfon is fo far from being filent as to Query m m ^ IMAGE EVALUATION TEST TARGET (MT-3) 1.0 I.I !f:l^ IIM li Ki m 12.2 ^ m 2.0 us u m 1.25 1.4 1.6 < 6" 10, 7 Hiotogi'aphic Sciences Corporation ^: rO^ V :\ \ ^9> V ^V" ^<,^ * 4f^ "= .> ■k> 23 WEST MAIN STREET WEBSTER, N.Y. 14580 (716) 872-4503 ^ ^.% 7 if' f I*' ' M (I feys, I was prefent when the Lieutenant of the Fur- nace brought the 3 Bottles of Water down the Ri- ver ; Capt, Middleton gave it in as his Opi- nion y that the Bottles taken the higheft up was the falteft.,this is, I think, all thcEvidence Mr.Dobbs has brought to prove the Saltnefs of the Water in the Wager^ lU' 7«) the Freflincfs of the Wa-* ter, that in Anfwer to Query i, he fays that above Deer Sound the Water was much frefher, and the higher up, the frefher ftilL The De- claration of MorriJbn,&c, Page 156, 157 of Re- marks i allows the Frefh- nefs of the Water, tho* they are not willing to fpeak out, but attribute it to the Quantity of Ice and melting Snow ; this is evident from the Words *' the' Water was fait as ** could be J among Jo much "/(T^, &c." The Place whereM?rn]/o»,&c. tailed the Water is not fpecified, if it was btiovfDeerSoundt I do not pretend that the Water was frefh, whether there was Ice or not ; it muft then be above Deer Sounds or it would not be any thing to the Purpofe, and in fuch Cafe the great Quantityof Ice,whichMr. Dobbs fuppofes freflin'd the Water, iscontradid- ed by the Lieutenant's Anf^vcr to Qaery i p^ 1 56 of my Vindication : He fays there was no Ice to interrupt our Paffage, from the time we kk the ^i^V :'o i 'mtiV/ M V* lo silibii. ! ■ vj , .-oa rlt- ii i'j^n ( m ) Head- land tbove i)^tff ^^«»^, till we came to the utmoft Part of our Y^^«I^"P ^''^ ^i^er on the Weft Side of the Channel : Now if there was not Ice to interrupt the Lieutenant's Paflagc - can it be fuppofed that what Ice there was could be a fufficient Quantity, to freihen in any Degree the Waters of the JVa^er where we could find no Bottom with a Line of 68Fathoms,and which by the Report of thefe very ^^^. Morrifon, ^c, ^l^ ' J[^ or 1 2 Leagues broad 5 but thefe very Witnefles contradidl themfelves as to the Quantity of Ice; for Jn Page 153 of Remarks, they aflert there was not one Piece of Ice to be ieen above the high Bluff Point, to the higheft we went up. In Anfwer to the pofitive Affcrtion of the 3 Witneires,Mr;'5/&/,, &c. of the Water, being very fait, I aver that one ot them. Amount, was lame on board, and was "F^^'' "P,as far as the hJgh i?/«/. and to con- tradid the other two, I inall give in tlie Evidence otMen, at ieaft eqimlly credible N a 1^1 !!M III I'll SJ'S-ir" ( X78 ) credible. If the Water they found fo very fait, was taken up above Deer Souftdy but by the S. E. Bearing by Compafs, it , is evident they tailed the Water not far above the Entrance of the River Wager^s Mouth, if they tailed it at all, for this Bearing brings them pretty near the Mouth of the River, and on the Eaft Side. What Mr. Moor fays I declared on lading the Water is ab- folutely falfe. — Van So- hriek fwears that he, and the reft of the Hands in the Boat did drink the Water in the mid Chan- nel and found it to be juft brackifh, fo that it mightvery well bedrunk. Vide my Vindication p. 84. PnV^attefts thathe and feveral others of the Boat's Crew, tafted it and drank the Water in the Middle of Wa- ger River^ and found it but juft brackifh, yet almoft as fait at Savage Sound where the Ships lay, as in the Sea, of which he is ready and willing to make oath. ^f^^^i acknowledges bis having enquired after the pro- per Perfons who knew moft, and I muft allow he met with them in the Lieutenant, fpygaie and Thompfony who have made it appear, they knew more than I did my felf, the reft of the two Ship's Companies, or will ever be difcovered by any other hereafter. For they are fureof a Pafliage to the Weftern American Ocean. Vide their Let- ter of Mr. Dobbf^ Re- marks, p. 132, t; 13} alTured m s •iS»'. m In ^^^^^^^1 ill'' 111! m (i I' 'h > ( 182 ) S|fi(ure^ of what he was (o gee by his Evidence ; farther, 'thompfin and/i^- faii came to the faid /lafter at a Houfe near ihe new Crane ; and told him they had been every ^^here fpelcing him \ that upon th^ Deponent's an- swering he did notlike the Scheme, ^ompfon fwore and raved, and menaced hini the Peponent with Rqin,as well asCapt.Afr^- ^eion\ indeed throughout y^r. Lohbih Remarks, in their Anfwers and Af- fidavit, p. 148 of Mr. jDoMj's Appendix to his Remarks, they (hew thcmfelves very adive and willing Witnefles : In the beginning of the faid Depofition, they make Oath that neither of them have any perfonal Antipathy, private Ani- mofity, or are any ways affefted with 'Partiality upon any Account what- ever againft Cbrijlopher Middleton late Com- mander of his Majefty*s Sloop Furnace^ (^c. ■^^r- Mr. D£wilde, in Page 39 of the Appendix to thefe Sheets, gives in Evidence, that ^ygate threatned to beat Mr. James Smith for telling Capt. Middleton what they(Mr.Do^^j, Mr./^- gate and Thompfon, as I fuppofe) were about, and faiti (183) (aid t)iat Capt. MiMetou dcfervcd to he cue into Pound Pieces. — Macheth (p. 140 Vindication) hat made Oath that Wiga$i and 'Tboimfon had in the Space of 3 Months lal| pa(k, been often at that Deponent's Houfe ; and have there in his Hear- ing boaded they would do Cape. MMeto^s Bufinefs. get him broke, and take Care, that he the faid Capt. Mtddleton ihoi^ld never Command another of the King's Ships ; with many other, the like ill-natured Expreflions ; he farther fwears that in his Hear- ing, the faid Wygate had frequently faid he might be made a Purfer of one of his Majefty's Ships when- ever he pleafcd, that he fhcwed feveral Letters, and afHrmed that he had received them from one Mr. Arthur Dobbs in Irt' land^ containing Pro- mifes to reward the faid JVygate to his Heart's Content , provided he would draw up fomething in the Nature of an Ac- cufation againfl; the faid Capt. Middletorii &c. iji t; ' ^ ■ 111 N Mr, If" ■ (li! I'. m ' I |l>' F-! HP ( 184,) ^Mr. D^^*;, in p. 39 of his Remarks fays T charged him with mirreprefcnting the Affair of' the Boats being carried out of the River fP^a^er by the Ebb Current. I faid before, p. 49, that /conti'nued tha Charge, and will now, as I there promifed make appear by a plain Narrative, that I am well grounded. > * -»i wca Mr. Dobbs tells us, the Lieutenant exprefly faid •before the Admiralty, that he was carried out by the Tide of the Ebb clofe by the Rocks, 4 or 5 Leases OfficLt ^r'/- ^- 'r^ Cape Dobbs, and°ha Officer fays the fame in his written Anfwer ; and brings the Surgeon and Clerk, with his own Minutes to prove what the Mafter faid, but for all this, we have only his own Word. ' The Lieutenant's Anfwer to the 6th ^uery before the Admiralty, is as follows. « ZI^'li!'^^^? "^^'"'"^ ^° '^' So"^h Weftward « n^t u ^°u ^':..? '^^ ^°"^h Shore of Cape « ^. ' p-^ '^^ ^'"^'r °^ ^^^' ^"^ ^^^ve from fra^er River 6 or y Leagues. " Matter's Anfwer to the fame ^ery. l^^!'^" ^^ ^^''^ ^''^''^ °"f of the River ^^^^^-'c Mouth by the Rapidity of the Ebb Tide, upon a arge Piece of Ice, we were carried S. E. by S. as the Courfeot the Land lies by Compafs from the Rivers Momh towards C^^.i),^^^^ until we met the Channel Ebb from the W. by S. by Comi:afs » In the Lieutenant's Report, the 27th of 7«/v he fays, as may be feen in this Appendix, p. 2/ -We were forced upon the South Shore with great Swiftnefs, and many Pieces of Ice were forced upon the Rocks, and others againft them with great force. We were forced again off, near the Middle C( C( ec « ^ Now is there f ^y Sfk' b!in<,°'^"'^ V'"'^''- Cape Dobbsl Clofr Iw Tk n ."^ '^^'"''"'J '"und W; and from theXoA^?",^.' T '" '''''^"• Dobbs was on the S«,li cT .^, ^'''^'' » C*)? 'he Report .V. n if nf i-*""? °^ '^ ^"P'- ^^' plain thS n "e^r'caL ni^h" ^^^1'" ' ^^'^'^ '"' out of cI^rI. ^o t e"'tfev''V''^'"*^^eot leagues outof theR^T Vfmv'n"^'' °/ ^ the Obfervation I madeT^ • ^^ °P'"'°" '™'« -cl twice I waVdow; Xh! 3^1 ^ 'h''^'' Tide very ftrona fmn, .1, \^^^ ^^at, I found the ^-ithout .'s Kth to ts ?T r^'''';!' """'« by N. as the Coirfe of th^ r" ^, ^- '''"'' ^^ W. Paft by the lower inini 1 ^"'^ ^^'^ ""h. We 2 Leagues witiji rTpt' -""^ '' '"S'' ^ater, about ShipsOa's and the f-T*"^^' /"d fowed with the co.,ld not get above f'°"'?^"»''=''d, yet we River's Mo^th. though foril^T' ';"H°« ">« of rowing and 'towif teEt'."hr""= Il^'P the Boat could be carrtn ,1 j ^ "' ^'^'^''''^ how Tide. It was To T„1? '^^'^iCape Dobh in one .hcLieut:„randMaftrSr-M'he35th. the River with the Ebh!„ J ™ ''' ^""P ''°*'« and got up wfth!;^ o^;M1I:: of th' tv"'^'"^ 'vm Cove (fee the R.L ^ ? ^'^'^ ^^*PS» »n ^tf- ro Vg aSS^{LKrtheTce'lTt°^='?,^ not prevent being carried down wl'h thl t h'"^ ^ Jce again: Before the TW^ ul ^ 'd^ "nd it muft be a quarter Fl,hr u ""> ""'de fo ftrong. above five S Ebb ^; ^° ^^' 'l^^y ^ouid not hav°e all the Way^and t^^f "°1j,f " ='^'"'' " ^ad run would haveVen 1^2 ; Mile ll" \" "°"^' ""»' b«n carried that T ide^ ^' ?. f ^^ ™"''">»'« line, It they Jmd a^i/zr ««j... vourcd i« rf f^^B i 'if s' I^H iM H ■ iiwiVt 1 1 Hi ilf •I' ; h \t ' r ■■ flj^^H^Bj '1 r ( i8(J ) vourcd at all to have rowed againft the Ebb, b©-' fore they were jammed up in Ice. Again, as it wai 8 Leagues from where the Ships lay in Savage Covi to the River's Mouch> which are 24 Miles, and 5 Miles they were ihort of the Ships, when the Tidit look them, that makes 19 Miles they had to dpve, before they got out of the River ; take 19, from 25, and jt makes them but ?> Leagues without the River *, and Ca^ Dqhhs^ is 8 or 9 Leagues from the Hivor, they muft coofequently be 6 or 7 Leagues (hort of that Cape. But this Account of Mr. Dobhs agreei very well with all Mr. Ranking;*: other Bearings ar)4 piftances ; making fF'aggr 12 or 13 Leagues broad, ztDeer Sound, in one Report, and 6 or 7 in another | and S. by E. Bearings, inftead of W. by S. hii Opening, and a bluff Point. The£ few apparent InconHftencies and 6at CbOr tradiclions, are fufficicnt to fhew with what View Mr. Dohbbs wrote ; and what Regard his WitnclTes have for the Truth of what they advance and feal with tlieir Oaths. I could point out a Number more, but they are too obvious to efcape the NqcIcq 1^ ^he Reader. LOG G-B O O K. mi- )^ '• What Mr. Do^^j calls an Extradl from the Logg- Book, p. 127 of his Remarks, is, perhaps, asdif- ingenuous a Piece as ever was endeavoured to be palmed upon the Public ; fincc it is evident that it is patched up from the (aid Logg, my Journal, and my printed Logg, with fome little Invention. (Proof of this). There is no Latitude fetdown in the MS Wafte Logg Book, in that Part where Mr. Dohb'i has printed the Latitude, which he has taken from my printed Logg. On the 9th Day of Attguft, at eight in the Af- ternoon, he has fet down the Opening S. W. by W. 2 Leaaue& r. { 18; ) t Leagues (which Or^ning, by the h« Opening of the frozen Strfb) thl Be5in ;t 2 in the Afternoon, the Moth of !^^\^'^ f^ager bore N W ' M iva o ^^ ^^*^ ^'^^r « Ihe Wafte oy-i:.g^:£J^««-? Uagues. fame} but the Diftanr? ; " ,'"« Bearing « the This additio a^ 1^/' "!!''• ^ °'r ^ league,, out m the Extradi Mr 7)„u. i. , *' '"• W ' W r>a /. • ^°''" has made it N »»• T W. Diftance 6 Leami« tu- „ . "• a Miftake in the coovin^mf r ^''" ^"""e was book, and thtlmPj^MT -^^ ^'°"' '*"« Wafte- Mr. mbs found This mai;. " '"^'"y /"""^l- Now the true BearTng n t"e wT'^°r'"' P"^P<""efhan has therefore wpy'd t L^f ' °' Logg-book. and the Wafte or LoLf^k tVT"""^'^ ^"""^ "f time in the Loil 'f..!,™ ?Vl"° ^'"""'^^ =« '">« Extraa. Thelf'th « n1 'r ''^ ?'«'"''» ">''» "'» he has. in Ws pr aeScd K"? ^ Logg-Book. which ieiys' Th: m° d "t tii^^rtt 'r the Afternoon his Extrafl- f. ! ^/^^•^^^ ^^ 6 jn along the N ShoSftant S^ 'Z ofs L"' ^" I own this Diftance of 7 or ilJl? ? leagues, the Manufcript Waftr L r 1^"? " ^"^ "^"W" '« terationfror2o73lo%:r^°f"'^T''i ''"^ "-'Al- -^ wr 3 CO 7 or if IS manifeft r for ri>- c: gurc ^'4 ,* •' \ li r ( i88 ) gure 2 is plainly to be perceived between feven and the disjundlive or^ and the Figure of 3 is turned into an eight. Who has been guilty of this clumfey Forgery, I wont take upon me to fay -, but Mr. Dobbs had this Book fomc Months in his Cuftody. This is a material Akeration in Favour of that Gen- tleman's Caufe, as it is the very Place where it was refolved in Council to begin our Search. The 13th at Noon, his Extradt Ihews the Latitude 63*' i \ y this is not in the Wafte Logg-book, but taken froni my printed Logg. The fame Day at Noon, ano- ther Head -land, at the fame time bears S. W. by S. in his Extradt ; it Ihould be W, by S. but this may be an Error of the Prefs, as it makes neither tor him nor againft me. Mr. IDobbs (Ixys there is a material Difference be- twixt the Folio Logg book in the Furnace, which iff indeed the Wafte-book, and the Pocket Logg-book which the Captain has pablilbed. And I fay here is a very material Difference between his pretended Extrad, and the Truth in feveral Articles. How much to Mr. Dohbs^s Credit, I leave the World to judge. ; A Tyde- ( i85> ) ^ater, ^^hen the Moon is at Pull and Change how many Feet the fFater RiZh Tide of Flood and Tide of Ebb fetteth Z &nn,vg at London-Bridgc. andfi contiZ- tng to the Northward to thevCS^ , , Orkney and Shetland, Note that //ftandsf^Hou«. JJf for Minute,, and i^ for Feet. a 3 2 12 12 12 12 12 12 II II U LO;7^<7;? 5n<^f the Middle fouth £»^j^ cf the Gunfleet fouth Harwich Harbour fouth Handford water fouth Woodhridge-Haven fouth half eaft Albrough- Haven fouth half eaft Orfordnefs fouth by eaft Sole-Dunwich and miters- wick fouth fouth eaft i^y?// fouth fouth eaft quarter Tide Jo Yarmouth-Haven fouth eaft and by fouth quarter Tide, that is, the Tide of t-iood runncith to the fouth ward one hour and half after it is High-water . in the p,,,^ The fame afzXf and the Standford "^ "^ Gallaper-Sand fouth: The Tide runs '^ over It fouth weft by weft, and Leagues a Watch Cabard- 'Sand iouth 12 00 i8 30 20 '5 00 iS 45 14 45 lo 45 SO 30 15 7 7 00 16 00 15 At i «-¥ 1'^ • fel / t..l ^ *i ~M' ( ipo ) 1^. "J>5f I ! : *li At tlie Maze fouth fouth weft : but the "tide runneth in one Hour and a half after it is High- water ; fo that a fl^ck Water is a quarter Ebb. The Tidfc' of Flood runneth three Hours in the Offift to the Northward, after it is High-water on the Maze^ which is Half-tide. 2 JVinterton-Nefs fouth eaft. But the Flood runneth into the Nefs three hours after it is High-water, which is Half-tide 9 Cromer and Blakeney fouth eaft 9 From blakeyiey to Flambrougb-head the Flood fetteth fouth eaft^ and the Ebb north weft Spume eaft by north $ Hull eaft and weft o B'irlington-Peer eaft north eaft 4 Scarborough eaft north eaft 4 Rohinhood-Bay^ White Bay^ ^eafe and Hartley- Pool north eaft by eaft 3 Sunderland north eaft 3 Tinmouth-Bar^ and iVbr/£> and 5o;^/^- Shields, north eaft 3 From Tmmouth-Bar to Flamhrough- bead the Flood fetteth fouth weft, and fouth weft by fouth, and the Ebb to the contrary. Seaton-Sluce north eaft and by north 2 Blythe north eaft by north 2 Cocket-IJland fouth weft by fouth 2 Holly- IJland fouth weft by fouth 2 Barwick fouth weft by fouth 2 Leith, and all the Pt'^r; in Edinburgh' Frith 2 H. U. t. 15 00 xo <5 16 00 16 30 13 30 13 45 00 10 00 13 4^ 16 45 10 45 15 45 15 45 iS 45 14 St, 15 15 Su ( ipi ) St. Andrews and i)//«^f APPENDIX letters; a^A S I n, DuBLiK, Dmrnhrij, i-j^s. Hope this will meet you in London fafe v,iLd°wfT '■' 't » P'«'<="'« Favour if you apprehended with LT ^.Zl^''f .j'^ar was were taken up i„ ercfting Vsto^el^cin clS •SI I :l ' S'l to I' lll>l ; .'. , mi 2 LETTERS, d^r. i?/wr, but as foon as Hands could be fparcd, proper Inftrudions fhould be given to renew the Attempt, by Sloops from thence, early in the Seafon, which would be done at a fmall Expence, fince the Ap- prehcnfions of a War arc now pretty well over. I hope no Danger is to be apprehended of any Attack by the French in Hudforfs Bay, fo that they may have fpare Hands next Seafon to proceed upon the Dif- covery from Churchill River, which I Ihall again apply for, if you be fo good as to let me hear from you^ how you found every Thing upon your Arrival there, and whether the Situation of Affairs be fuch as It may be proper to give Inftruftions next Seafon to profecute the Difcovery in Sloops fh)m thence. I ihall trouble you no farther, but wifh you Succefs in all your Affairs. I am, with Truth and Eftecm, Tleafe to direBfor me, at the 'Surveyor General's Office, Dublin, SIR, Tour moft obedient Servant, Arthur Dobbs. S I R^ LETTERS, (ire. i London, May 27, ,74.,; SIR, ^Yi^TJ'^' Advice and Direflion k tlL nifnofi my Friend Mr. DoB,, Re^mSa i/n™, S« SdoT?:!'"'""!;'" ^ don't doltoyou te hear from you from time to time as Opp" Harbours, or Winter at any of wring in their Trade, and invading the Propertv R^hts, and Privileges, granted to The CompTnv bJ Letter Patents by his late Majefty King Chl2Z Second^«„. ,670. andpoffefled by the Company e!e? dve'anv nift"^ ^ f"'^'^ ""'' '^"J^'n^d no to give any Difturbance, Lett, Hindrance, or Moleft- ation toanyof the Ships, or Sloops employ^ in S anv^o^'^M "-"^^ '"^^ Liberties b^TSing with any of the Natives, or Settling on any of the f^nHt-T r^""'°T S""'^'' '° "«= Company by he aforefaid Letters Patents, or be permitted to Sail after he Enters the Bay to the Southw rd of ct Dtggs, in the Latitude of 62° 45' which the Vnm pany hope and pray their Lordlh^s wi 1 read"; fuppofing a Paflage that Way, and confequently c^n- not in the leaft obftnift Captain MmZTeI^I ^Zlil Tl^ ^°' ""'"'' ^ North- weft Paffage toX South Sea and Japan. The Company notwifhftand rii bv'the^°"'i""=^ have fuftLe'd f^m timet time by the Fn«cb, to the Amount of above One hundred thoufand Pounds, have, with great Coft and fn/X" "T""^ '^ '^"*' ""^ ""^ Care encre^fe fhJV'"*'^^",:'!"' P''^""^' '"^cure, and encreale the fame to the Benefit of this Kinadom whereby his Majefty's Giftoms have be n acTv^nced' and Beaver Wool reduced to fuch a moderate Wet- that many Thoufands of his Mnlfft,,', <;„u:.a' ;:.' thereby employed in the Hatting Trade."'"'" ""' A 3 The ■P 1'4 ■ 'i f i'li !' 1 I 6 L E T T E R S, c!^r. The Company have alfo expended large Sums of Money in Building Forts and Fadtories, and likewife Ships and Sloops, not only for carrying on the Trade, but alfo for making further Difcoveries i two Ships whereof with all the Officers and Sailors that went from Great- Britain Anno 1719, on a Difcovery of a North- weft Paflage were loft, not having been heard of fince i the whole Charge of the Outfett of the faid two Ships amounted to upwards of 2500/. and was entirely borne and paid for by the Company : And feveral Sloops before and fince have been employed by the Company, and proceeded on fuch Difcovery to 65 Degrees North Latitude on the Weftern Coaft to the Bottom of Sir Thomas Roe*s IVellcomey and no Paifage being there, they returned without Succefs. The Governor and Committee think it would be very hard for the Company to be difpoflefled of any Part of their Trade, or prejudiced in their Property, ^11 which is humbly fubmitted to their Lordlhips ConAderation and Favour. By Order of the Governor and Committee of the Hudfon's-Bay Company. Thomas Burrows, Secrett^ry^ to Thomas Corbett, Ef^\ fit tb^ Admiralty 0/Jice, •> » Sin, LETTERS, c>r. //«^«*s Bay-Houfc, Ma^ 30, 1741, SIR, I AM favoured with a Letter from yoa, dated the 29th Inftant, wherein their Lordfhips defire there may be feme Alteration made to the Order fcnt by the Company to the Chief and Council at Prince of lVdei\ Fort, and that the fame Order may be extended to their feveral Settlements. The Company in their Letter to you of the 13th Inftant defired you to inform their Lordfhips of the Impoffi- bihty they were under of making Provifion for fo greit a Number of Perfons as are intended to go with Capt. Middleton, and now beg you would af- fure their Lordfhips that they are far on their Parts from defigning to give any wilful Oppofition or Hinderance to the Difcovery intended to be made by the faid Captain : Yet, they cannot but apprehend the Danger and ill Confequences that may attend the Company if Capt. Mddlettn fhould Winter at any of their Settlements. But in Obedience to their Lordfhips Defire, The Company have herein en- clofed fent Orders for Capt. Middleton to the Chiefs of their feveral Faaories, that if the faid Captain fliould be obliged to refort to them for AfTiftance, he fhall have the bell the Company can give him. By Order of the Governor and Committee of the HudforC% Bay Company. Tho, Burrows, Secretary. To Tbomas Corbet t Efq; at the Admiralty. < A 4 f • '''I W r * ! 14' |;i Mr. LETTERS, ^. h 1 < : lUiSi- J Hkdfon*s Bay-Houfc, LofjdoH May 30, 1741. Mr. James TJham and Council at Prince of f^ales's Fort CburcbilU River, Gentlemen, ^TOtwithftanding our former Orders to voli. if i Capt. MiddUton (who is fcnt abroad in the Oovcmmem's Service to difcover a PiOage to the Northweft) (hould be obliged to refort to you. you are to give him the beft Affiftance in your Power. H^e remain Tour loving Friends,; BibycLake, Governor. Benj. Pitt, Dep. Govern, William Elderton. J. Winter. At. Lake. John Anth. Mc Earle. To Mr. James Ifiam and Council at Prince of ^^/.-/s Fort ChurchtU River, Jo Mr. nomas JVhite and Council at Tork Fort. 1 Mr. Jofepb JJbeJler and Council at Albany Fort. Mr. t*, ll''"l LETTERS, iyc. p « Mr. T}obbs\ Lcttci* to mc, Dear SIR, 1i HAD the Favour of yours from Churchill by Lapr. Spurrel, and aJfo your laft from the Ork- fieys, and the Duphcate from London, and connra- tulate you upon your fafe Arrival with the Ships after fo dangerous a Voyage ; but 'tis with Concern r "^ i^''^^" difappointed of our Hopes of an cafy PafTage from the H^elcme or makhone Point,' as we had Reafon to have cxpcded, had the Ac- count been true, which Fox Jaid down in his Jour- nal, and which had been in feme Meafure con- firmed by Scro^^s, from his Manufcript Journal ; but as yourObfervation of the Height and Direftion ot the Tides there, and Quantity of Ice, is direftly contrary to their Account ; all the fine Hopes form- ed from their Accounts are quite vanifhed, nothing being agreeable to their Journals, but the black Whales you obferved near Brook Cohham, and that !u xt'"?? ""^^^^ ^'^^' ^°^'"g ^^ ^he ir.lcome from the N. \L. agrees pretty much with Fox*^ Account ; fince you found a W. or W. by N. Moon made High Water in 63^ 20'. and in 66\ 40'. an E.by S. Moon made High Water, which proves that the I ide ot l^lood proceeds from 66\ 40'. to the H^el^ come^n^ Brook Cobham, and not the Tide from the Southward of Caref^ Swan's Neft. Until I fee your Journal at "large, and your draught, I cannot fix with myfelf, whether the l.ands on your Starbord or Eaftward from the fVeU jm^ to Cape Hope, were contiguous or broke into Iflands ; nor do J know whether the great Tide "^ J^L^ w^"^ "P ^''^''' ^'"'''' between Cape Dobbs ^nd m,alebone Point came from the Eaftward thro' lucn Broken T-nnrlc r*t- fr ■ WJiJ *L_ XT I. f-?/! • mc i-vufiii-rLiTwara \ ^ from I'! lO LETTERS, d'C. a k 111 } .' < I") I |PJ § (If; i||!t: in-' L from that Strait you pafifed, where there wag a ftrong Tide before you doubled Caj)e Hope, I apprehended from the Abftrad fent me, that that Strait lay Eaft and Weft, on the North of which was Cape Hope to the North- Weft ward of which you were embayed, and over (hot the Tide. I alfo apprehend that the Mountain you afcended was oppofite to the Strait you obferved the Tide to come in at, at its Weft End, and fo you faw along the Length of the Strait from End to End, and the farther End was towards Lord P^ejlon's Portland^ which according to Fox yrzi in 66<^. 4/. and you were then in eS"", 40'. fo thai the Eaft End of that Strait was to the Northward of Cape Comfort : Whe- ther the Strait you pafled going to Cape Hop/' ex- tended to the Weftward of your Courfe as weil as to the Eaft ward, does not appear from the Abftrad you fent me. You alfo apprehended that the other Strait you faw from the Mountain, thro* which the Tide came, was frozen faft from Side to Side, tho* 6 or 7 Leagues broad j but had it been faft I fliould imagine it would have obftrucled the Tides flowing fo rapidly to ff^oiger River and to the IVel- come as you obferved it. Upon the Whole, you have afcertain'd that there can be no Paffage from the IVekome to 6^"" — and if there is any to the Northward, it muft be attended with more Danger than we apprehended would have bsen, had it been found at IVhalehone Point. But there are two Things, I yet can't eafily account for ; that is, how the black Whales get to Brook Cobbam, if they don't pafs and repafs by Hudfen's Strait, which I think has not been obferved by any Journal extant, nor have I heard you mention any ken by you in the Straits^ at any Time ; the other is from whence th^t Tide can come which flows from Cape Hope to the Ivelmne, fince a W . by S. Moon made high Water there, and a W. by N. at the fVeiccme: For J wag a ne, that forth of ward of \c Tide, afcended Tide to iw along and the '^ortlandy md you i of that : Whe- lopf ex- weil as Abftrad :he other )' which to Side, :n faft I he Tides the IVel- hat there — and if attended uld have nt. But unt for ; Cobbam, i Strait, Journal fecn by is from )m Cape :>n made Vel corns : For LETTERS, ^c, ,i For if W/'s, and JSqfm's Account be true, that a u J c * °" "^^^^^ ^'Sh Water at the Northweft Knd of Hud/on*s Strait, and a S. by R. Moon at Cape Comforf, how could that Tide if it cntred the Strait you obferved from the Mountain, to the Northward of Cape Comfort, and was but 20 Leagues long, be eight Points longer in making high Water, where you were cmbay'd, where a W. by S. Moon made high Water: This makes it a' Doubt tc me. whether it could be from that Tide. This would make me incline to think if it be from any eafterly Tide, it Ihould be from that in Crm* berland Inlet, where at Cumberland Ides, 60 leagues from the Entrance, in about 66°— it flowed four or five Fathoms by Davis'% Account ; and he faid a S. W. by W. Moon, made high Water, but it was there check'd by another Tide which came from the South-weft. But to this, there is another Diffi- culty from Fox, who found Lord IVeJion'i Portland in 66"" 47', which muft have been betwixt your new Strait which was in that Latitude and Cumberland Ifles ; and he fays the South-caftern Tide followed him fo far from Hudfon\ Strait. Thefe Diificulties I fhould be glad to have your Opinion upon ; and whether you think we ought to difcredic their Accounts here, as well as at the Wel- come, tho* they had more Time here to make regu- lar Obfervations i or whether, as a great deal of what you pafs'd muft have been Iflands or broken Lands, there might not be fome Paflliges thro' thefe Straits, North and South, as at Cape Hope \ where you pafs'd the Strait from whence that Tide might flow from the North- Weftward ; ar I thofe Head- lands being to the North-Eaftward of you, the Tide wou'd return to you from the Eaftward. For I ob- ferve from Baffin, that the Lands to the Wpfl-w^rH of this Bay, are very far to the North-Eaftward of the 1 1 Si- » item it M LETTERS, cr^. the Strait and Bay in which you were ; fo that there was ft ill room for a Paflage betwixt 6y'' and 72". From the great Quantity of Ice you met at the TFelcome v/hich was not mentioned by Button^ Fox or Serous, I fhould be glad to know whether you think it has been ufually there, or whether thefc two lafi: Years fevere Froft has not occafioned a more than ufual Quantity ; for I apprehend the Froft came on at Churchill^ laft Year, in September^ fooner than it ufually happens, and was alfo longer in clearing out of the River, nor do I think the Ice you met yi\i\i near Chunbill in Auguji^ 1741. has been ufually there but after very fevere Winters. When you have Leifure, I Ihall be glad of your private Thoughts upon thefe Points, which I hop5 to have by the Time I get your Draught and Jour- nal, and if there be fufficient Reafons to put an End to any farther Attempt, as I am afraid there is, then I Ihall confider whether to make an At- tempt to open the Trade to the Bay by diflblving the Company, and making Settlements upon the River oiNelfotiy Moofe and Albany to the South Weft ward, where the Clime will be more temperate, and by that Means not only deprive the French of all the Southern and Weftern Trade of the Bay, but alfo puih our Difcoveries thro' that Weftern Continent, and enlarge our Trade and Power there. If you think this a reafonable Scheme and beneficial for England, and will enter into it, I have been preparing fome Materials for that Purpofe, by a Defctiption of thofe Countries and Nature of the Climates from the Journals you gave me, and the French and other Accounts I .have met with, and ftiall want any farther Informations you can give me of the Trade and Obfervations of the Country, to fhew the Be- nefit muft accrue to England upon Opening the a TauC aHu icttiiHg tilC Country. Had that there id 72". tt at the ?, Fox or thcr you thefe two 1 a more •oft came oner than clearing you met has been of your i I hope nd Jour- > put an aid there I an At- liflblving :he River 'eft ward, and by f all the but alfo ontinent, ou think England, ng fome I of thofe "rom the nd other 'ant any e Trade the Be- ling the LETTERS, ^r. 13 Had there been any Hopes in profecuting our firft Scheme I Ihouid have met you in Loridm this Winter, but unlefs other Bufinefs calls me, I believe I Ihan't, go this Seafon, and by another Year I hope the Europaan War will be brought to a Crifis, and then lime may be fpared to look into a farther Improvement of our Trade and Settlements. I wifh you Health and Profperity in all your Undertakings, and am with great Efteem, Dear S I R, Tour moft obedient Humble Servant^ Arthur Dcbb$. Lijburn^ OBohr 20, 1742. Mr. K 'i I; . ! ;^f 'Mil iU* '.'3 Had 'm 14 LETTERS, ^c. Governor IJham's Letter, Jt^^, 6, 1743, SIR. I Received yours with Pleafure, and am forry to hear thofe two bafe Men fhou'd offer fuch Violence. Yes, was I in E»^lajjd I cou'd take my Oath that thofe two Men, ffygate and nompfon, were us'd by you, while here, better than any Men belonging to you, and never Ihou'd have thought they wou*d avouch fuch falfe and abominable Scandal ; and I do not doubt but you may clear all Objeaions they may lay to your Charge where God and Truth is on your Side. One northern Indian return'd, but cou'd give no Account of the other faying he was not put a Shore with him, by which I imagine he killed his Confort. He cou'd give no Account of any Rivers, i^c, going direftly Inland as foon as a Shore. I hope you'll continue your Health : As for my part i have fent to return Home, but doubt (hall not enjoy that Happinefs, having been fixty Days this Winter not able to go out of the Room by the Lamenefs in my Thigh, and a Fever that remains very violent. Poor Trade. Pray my Service to all Friends, hoping you'll accept the fame, and I conclude P. W. Fort, C. River. Jug, ^» 1743- Tour WelUwiJher and, Humble Servant^ J. liham. ii *> Mr. ^43- •ry to hear Violence* Oath that re us'd by mging to jy wou*d I ; and I ions they ruth is on but cou'd was not he killed t of any >on as a ilth: As me, but ing been it of the I a Fever Pray my the fame, LETTERS, ^c. Mr. GilFi and Lindriciei Letter. If From Sbeermfs, Sep. 27, 1743. SIR, WE think ouffclves m Gratitude oblig'd, to ,.f""n our humble Thanks for your Favour m fcndujg us your Book and Chart: We h "rl v^ t ff^'''^ ^"^ °' "' ""d »« heartily S S«vi«°;'i'' '""'^^'* '■"''' Treatment, for youT &rvia to your Country, as we are perfeftlv well ?I„i?^ if 'H.*^*?'™- ^" "e 'an impute it wo^of ll» *' '»»««°"i Suggeftions of th^fe two wont of Men, »3i5.a/, and nompfon. whofe Beha- plainly foretell their fubfequent Conduft. SIR, ■J* I Tour Moft Obedient^ and ' if ! P-'M r«/. liham. moft Humhk Servants^ Daniel Gill, and John Lcndrick. ! ; ; » (1 >ll Mr. Capt i'fi i6 LETTERS, ^c. V !'. SIR, 1 Received the Favour of Yours, and am very willing to declare to you, that your late Lieute- nant Mr. Rankin^ whenever I had any Difcourfe with him about your Difcovery in Hudjon^s Bay, waj fo tar from making any Objection to your Condua: that he was ever fpeaking in your Praife : He told me you had done every Thing that could be done but there was no Probability of a Paflage into the Weftern Ocean, and that all the Tides of FJood came from the Eaftern Sea : I have read your Defence and very well know that Lieutenant /2^«/tf« cxprefled himfelf m Terms to this Effeft, that no body could do ^"?ore towards making the Difcovery than Captain Mtddleton had done, and I believe all mv Officers on Board the Portfmouth Store Ship can declare the fame ; and I fhould be willing to make Oath of the Truth of what I write to you in cafe it were required. / am, S I R, March 15, 1743-4. Tour very bumble Servant, George Gofling. To Captain Middleton. SIR, am very te Lieute- )urfe with I', waj fo Condua:, He told be clone, into the 3od came Defence, jxprefled dy could ry than : alJ my ►hip can to make I cafe it vantf )fling. LETTERS, e^^. ,7. ' Mr. SeaHe'a Letter, Mtnb ^0, 1744, Capt. Mddkton^ 1A M forry to find you have any Occafion to ap- pear any more in Print to juftify your Behaviour lAyour laft Expedition to Hudfon*, Bay, and that lomc Perfons who went with you that Voyage §eak now fo differently of your Behaviour in thtt l2.xpcdition from what they did foon after their Ar- Mr'^u Sl^"^' /^'^ particularly remember that Mr. Johnmgate the Clerk of your Ship, a very Jittic after his corning on Shore, came to me, by your f^'^v T^u'^.^'^'j;'^^'' beadvifed in an Affair relating to his Mother's Eftatc, of whom he was one of thi Adnimiftrators ; at which Time we had fomc Dif- courfe as to what Succefs you had met with, to Which I remember he made Anfwer, that it was not then publicly known, but when it fhould be, fo tar he was fure would appear, that you had done as much as was pofflble for any Man to do, and alfo at the fame Time exprcffcd himfelf very much in your Commendation for your general Behaviour to him. and other your Officers during that Voyage. This was fpoke by him before Chnftmas, 1742 and faid not only m my Hearing on my Enquiry after you, but alfo in the Hearing of Mr. Henry Grace, who then was, and now continues with Me, and well re- members the fame as well as myfelf. and if it will n.^I^"J 5''*''^'^^ ^° y°"» ^^^ both of us ready to tcftify the fame on Oath, / am^ Do5fors Commons^ March 30, 1744. '0 Capt. Cbrijhfber Middktm Tour moji bumble Servant^ John Searle. I R. B SI R, "iv^n \\}\ n i Ill 1 . i I ! I -Ml J t% L E T T E R S, c^r. .Mr. v/wo''s Letter about Ipygate and fbompfin^ A^ril 20y 1744. IA M not a little furprifcd that a Man of your Probity and Knowledge in Sea Affairs fhould be 10 violently attacked by a Gentleman of good Senfc and Learning on fo (lender a Bafis as that on which Mr. Dobbs has founded his Charge: I mean the Evidence of Men, whofe Charaders make them but of doubtful Credit -, fince I Myfelf, Mr. mfibrooh, Jate High Sheriff of London, and many more of Reputation heard Meffieurs thompfon and fVyrate^ vyrhom in Mr. Dobb's Remarks have taxed you with Willful Negledt, and corrupt Concealment averr the ^l^^^F-^^^'^y to us, by faying, at thc/wr Kmgs in the OldBatleyy where I accidentally met them after your Return, and before I faw you, a little before Cbrtftmas ly^z, that you had done more than any one that ever went that Way, or polTibly may be done, by any that ever goes after ; and that if there had been any Likelihood of aPalTage, you would have found It, and faid many other Things to your Ad- vantage, and this voluntarily in a Public Room, where they knew me, and made themfelves known to me, as I had forgot them. I was glad to hear of your Health and fafe Return, and treated them for the Joyful News to all the Gentlemen prefent, but m particular to * SIR, Tour WelUwiJhery and mojl bumhU Servant, London-Houfe, p. Avery. ' ^0 Captain Chriftopher Middleton. The fi.E PORTS, f^c. ts> 1744. of your lould be od Senfe n which ean the hem but nore of ou with verr the Kings in m after ! before lan any may be if there lid have >ur Ad- Room, known hear of em for nty but ervant^ ^ery. The the Lieutcnam»« RipoKt Page 151 in my Vindi- cation, or N^ xxx. in the Appendix. : , No. XXX* w^rtt a' ^ ' y^bts, 1742; ■ ^^.^oun^ings up the Eaft Channel between Jl the inands and the Eaft Side or IJland are MiddJe of the Channel, and ,6 Fathoms to 6 Fa- thoms, within a Quarter of a Cable to fome of the Iflands, and good Soundings ; though^ in many Chan- neb between thofe Iflands, Depth of Water is 18 Zf^^L^ rii ^^""^H> ^nd 7 or 8 Fathoms Ivithin half a Cable of the Iflands i the Channel be- tween the Iflands and the Eaftfide is 3 or 4 Miles broad ; we got into a Bay pr Cove pn the Eaft Side. eoQd clean Ground, and Soundings from ^q to a Fathoms > the Tide came from the Southward I through the Iflands, it flowed 13 Feet - TheNorthernmoftlfland, boreN. by W.Diftance i"" X? u ' '^S Soundings from the Bay or Cove to the Northernmoft Point of this Side of the Blufi^ are 45» 40, 30» 20 Fathoms Water accordingto the'Di- ftance we were off Shore above the Iflands. From the Eaft Side tOtheSouthweftSide, is n 12 or 13 Leagues broad, the Land runs N. W. by W the Tide flowed neafeftN. W. by W. along Shore ; we ran into a Bay or Cove at the North End of the Point this Side of the Bluff; the Soundings from 20, 15, 12, 10, 8, 6, Fathoms, good clear Ground, and fclear of Ice. it it S^ WeftS'"' ^'^"''' ^'"^' ^'''' ^Sn'd by Ra.ii„, where briad" '^'^ *''^"°^"^"S ^^F°" this is changed to 6 or 7 Leagues B 2. . The 111 H " I m ■'•'if - .1 W ' .; ■';! !< I' a'p REPORTS, eJ-r. The Tide came from the Southward, it flowed 13 Feet and a half; the Straits above the Ifland 12 cr 13 Leagues broody, I went upon the higheft Land on the Eaft Side, and fet the Land 5 there is a Bluff upon the South Side with three low Iflands off it, and a low Point at the Back of it, that bore South by Eajif, and a low Hoping Point *, that bore South by H^eft off^ with that Opening to us. The Land runs from S. by W. to the N. W. a high inountainous Land j it runs down with a Bluff Point, and a low Point at a fmall Diftance from it, and then runs up to a very high mountainous Land, and round to the Bluff Point. There is an Opening feemingly to me from the high Land, or Bluff I was upon, it being about a quarter Flood or more, by the Tide that came through the Straits 5 I faw the Ice break up and fet pund the Point I ftood upon, with fome Force, that all the Ice was prefently in Motion, in the mid- dle of the CHInnel againft the Flood, and was moft clear of Ice in the Middle this Morning ; it is nine or ten Leagues broad. July 16, 1742. John Rankin. $ Compare this with ditto. f Compare this with Ditto. • How did the Lieutenant fee the low Point over the Bluff Point at the Back of it ? K» REPORTS, ^c. 21 K» Another PAPER, or REPORT, /^«V ^f the Lieutenant^ and attej^-d by others j from Mr. Dobbs'i Remarks, p. 155. TH E Soundings up the Eaft Channel between the inand and the Eaft Side or Ifland is 45, 40, 30, and 25 Fathom, foft Ground, in the Midi die of the Channel, and from 16 to 6 Fathoms within a Quarter of a Cable's Length to fome of the Idands, and good Soundings thro», in many Channels between thofe Idands. The Depth of Water is 18 Fathoms, where I founded, and 7 or 8 Fathoms within half a Cable's Length of the Iflands. The Channel between the Idands and the Eaft Side is three or four Miles broad. We went into a Bay or Cove on the Eaft Side ; good clear Ground. Soundings from 30 to 5 Fathoms. The Tide came from the Southweftward * of the Idands, and flowed 13 Foot. The Northermoft Idand bearing N. by W. di- ftant 4 or 5 Miles. The Soundings from the Bay or Co>^ to the Northermoft Point on this Side the Bluff is 45, 40, 30, 20 Fathoms, according to the Diftance we were off the Shore. Above the Idands from the Eaft Side to the S. W. Side f is 6 or 7 Leagues broad. The Land runs N. W. by Weft. The Tide flow'd neareft N. W. by W. || along Shore. We ran into a Bay of Cove at the North End of the Point on this Side the high Bluff. The * In the preceding Report, it is from the Southward 10. So here IS from 10 to 6 Points difference , and the Ambiguity (hews a DefeO. of 7 ruth. ** ' t In the preceding Report 12 or 13 Leagues broad. J ^Here's a flat Contradiction in the lall Line but one of the fiilt Paragraph. The TiH^ h" f-v" con— f-rr- -l. o....u Weftuard ; now it flows neareft N. W. by W. along Shore, that IS S. E by E in the fame Place. Here are 3 difrc e it 1 ides m aboac 4 Miles dulance. Soundings fMl U REPORTS, ^c. l^Z^l"!^' 5?"" '.° '° \^' "' '°' 8' ^ ^^t^oms I good clear Ground, and clear of the Ice. 6r.Ia Ti^*^ oj;,^^oo^ came from the Southward ♦, dnd flow'd , 3 Feet and a half f. The Straits above Z> w'u^ If ^ ^^ 7+-^ ^'^'^g"" broad ||. I went up the highcft Land on the Eaft Side, and fet the Land by Compafs §. There is a Bluff Point on the South Side, with three low Iflands off it, and a low Point at the Back of ir, that bore S. by E. by Compafs t from us and a low Hoping Point, that bore S. by ^: q'^'L 'x?r ^P'TS to us. The Land ran from iJa I ^' i° '^' K' ^' ^ '^•g^ mountainous Land. It ran down with a bluff Point, and a low •Point, at at a fmall Diftance from it ; and then ran up to a very high mountainous Land, and round again to a high bluff Point. There appearing §§ to me from the high Land I was upon: It £ing about one Quarter Flood or more by the Tide thar came through the Straift. I faw the Ice break i^p, and fet round the Point I ftpod upon withfome .u f;.j^i^' H^ ,^^^ '^^ "^^ prefendy in Motion in the Middle of the Channel againft the Flood, and was almoft clear in the Middle this Morning. It is PWe pr ten Leagqes broad. ^ * 7»& ?(?» 1742, yobft Rankin, + ^erhZ'^rt' ^ff ""^ ^^"^ *^« South well ward. 4 I)^l'*p'i?"^'^! ^""g"" ^'■o^d'n the preceding Report t By Compafs again. 1$ ^ert, What appeared. j'l 71 \Q REPORTS, ^c. n The Lieutenants Report, N". VIII. in my Vin- dication, p. 1 08. I Was ordered to take the Maftcr with me in the eight-oar*d Boat, to found in the Channel to the Northward of the Iflands in the River, and to fee for a Harbour for our Ships, near the Mouth of the River, for a fafe Retreat, if need be \ but I could find none on' the North Side •, but I faw feveral Openings or Coves on the South Side, but I could not get near them, for the River was very full ot" Ice from Side to Side. . I made the bed of my Way up to the Ships from near the River's Mouth •, I got up to the 1 (land off the Mouth of Savage Sound, or River, the Tide came down upon me, and all the Ice, with fuch Force and Swiftnefs, that our Boat mull have been fmaftied into a thoufand pieces, if we had not got her inftantly into a Cove, or large Field of Ice. We were inclofed with fo much Ice, many large Pieces, fome of them drew nine or ten Fathom Wa- ter i we were forced upon the South Shore with great Swiftnefs, and many pieces were forced upon the Rocks, and others againft diem with great Force ; we were forced off again near the middle of the River, and carried out of the River's Mouth with the Tide of Ebb above five Leagues, before we could fee the lead Opening among the Ice, to get the Boat out. About four or five in the Morning, the 26th the Ice opened a little •, I got the Boat out of the Cove, and forced her thro* the Ice, it having little or no Mo- tion ; the Flood Tide being made, we got among loofe Ice, and failed towards the North Shore. About twelve at Noon, the 26th, we got in under the Ifiands on the North Side, at the Mouth of the River, we lay the Tide of Ebb, and got an Board of the Ship at half an Hour paft nine at Night. 7«/y2 7, 1742. B4 'John Rafikin, The I 1^1 « H REPORTS, &c. M ^ i' Wmi ■ ; ii |i> 1 i I \i 1 ■ 1 J I r 4 I' ^I'llH 1 '» nil The Lieutenant and Mailer's Report in Page no of my Vindication. Number X. ^"liTLi" "r °''^"'. ^"^ ^"-^'fi?" Ciiriftopher Middleton, Commander of bis Majeftys Shit the furnace, hearingDaietbe iythof}a\{ ij^i. WE whofe Names are hereunto fubfcribed. fmm c J if"T'^^ ^'* °»'''' ^«' and went from W. W where his Majefty's Ships Furnace f"^D,fioyery then lay , and on the z8th/ at one in the Morning, arrived at i)«r Sound, where we tried J^iace from the River .^fl^.r. and rofe at that Time ! ft n"- o-^'/" "^^^"^ 'he fame Morning we hb Deer Sound, fwhere we put the two NorLm /W,^, a-ftore to Icill fome Deer for our Sick Men) and 6,Jed for a^high blufFLand on the N. W. Sidi ™ t M '''i: ^T': °"f ^^'""'■e from the inands on the North Side of Deer Sound to the high bluff fi:equently and had no Ground with a Line of Sixtv- I'tl^^r.'^i ^'"J^'y '"'^'- When we wL a-breaftof the high bluff Land, we fteer'd W. N W fn ?K. p • m • 'f P' "'eh fome Mands that lay TJ Jfl'^' *^?^' °"^ 'hird over the River! and 30 Fathoms withm a League of one of them This Courfe we kept till we got about ,5 League from D^.r Sound, but finding the Tide or Frefti againft us and the Wind coming Fair, we were afnjjd to ftay any longer, for fearV hindering 41 Ships from going to Sea ; however, w. ?,„i. Error of tJje Prefs, it (hould be 6B, to REPORTS, iyc 2f to a Grapnell with the Boat, and went upon a high Mountainous Land, where we had a very fair vfw Fall of Water between the fuppofed Main Land "nd a Mite Broad, and alwut a League from where the Boat lay; but to the Northwards we difcove^ » nlfH,^"f ^u^L^""^' '» 'W* were f^n>t of I tCw ^'8'^,'^rf»«o« L'""! on both Sides broken L^ f^' ^""^^ ""^^ ■'■"'f P°"» »" mi m I . I'' '4 iB REPORTS, ^c. PRICES REPORT. I JOHN PRICE, Carpenter's Mate of the Furnace Sloop, am ready and willing to make Oath, that on Sunday the 19th of July y 1742, I went into the Boat with Captain Mddleton three or four Leagues above Deer Sounds endeavouring to get over to the South Side of JVager River, but could not for Ice above half the Way 5 and I and feveral others of the Boat's Crew tailed and drank the Water in the middle of Wager River, and found It but juftbrackifli, yet almoft as fait at Savage Sound, where the Ships lay, as in the Sea. I can- not remember that the two Indians wept when they went on Shore, one of them feemed very willing to go, the other would have ftay'd, but the Captain had, as he told us, engaged to return them home to their own Friends, or to Churchill, I believe none had the Difcovery more at Heart than Captain Middleton^ and he was always encouraging every Body to that End, and ready to inftrud: the Lieu- tenant, Mates, and others, in making Obfervations more than I ever faw in any Ship before. In par- ticular, feveral Perfons that went the Voyage on Mr. Boblfs Recommendation, were inftrufted care- fully by him in Navigation, and preferr'd in the Voyage. May 27, 1743- JOHN PRICE. .1 i| ii George REPORTS, S'C. 2p George Bentleys REPORT. G^yS^^^ ^£iNrrZ£r, Mariner, late on board the Furnace Sloop, Captain Middleton, Commander, is ready and willing to make Oath, ihat he never heard of any Threatning of the Cap! tain to cane, or broomftick, or lafli any one for concerning themfelves about the Difcovery ; that the Indians went voluntarily, and fecmingly very well pleafed, aboard a good firm, tight Boat, and were cowed aOiorc to BroohCohbam, having been well fumifli d with fufficient Prefents and Stores to ferve rhem home, as alfo with Arms, Powder and Ball lully lufficient to fecure them from any Enemy that they might meet with, and as much as they could have got by feven Years Trade. That by evenr thing he faw and heard of the Captain's Behavioii dunng the whole Voyage, he fincerely believes that the Captain had the Difcovery at Heart above all things, and negleded no means of encouraging eve- ry one to promote it. his GEORGE X BENTLEr, Mark. HI w i iu Ricbar4 J» REPORTS, ire ' f ■ J ■ ■ \ '! , '1 if. I' I si i^ ri } > flkhard Gufs AFFIDAVIT. J^ I CHARD GUr^ this Deponent, late Quar^ ter-Mafter on board of the Difcovery Pink,^?/- liam Moor J Mafter, maketh Oath, that this Depo- nent was ujp the River fVager^ the Jaft Time the Bofc-: l from the Ships at Savage Sounds which was , the 27 th, and we returned on board the firft Day of Auguft following, 1742. we found the Water but barely brackifh three or four Leagues a- bove Deer Sound, and the higher up the frelher* We came to a Grapling about three Miles below a frefli Stream, and went upon a high mountainous Land, and had a fair View of the kivcr, from whence we faw a great Run or Fall of Water ; tl^ Mafter of the Furnaee and myfelf, who were at leaft five Miles farther than the Lieutenant, went between the fuppofed Ifland and main Land, very narrow^ feemingly not a Mile broad, and about one League from where the Boat lay. This Deponent farther maketh Oath, that the (everal Lakes between the Mountains and Valleys were occafioned by melted Snow from off the Top of the Hills there^ and that fuch as were feen at Deer Sound, and on the South Shore of Pf^ager River, and indeed every where wherever we landed for many Miles round, where thofe Lakes were. Thefe large Colledions of Waters fpoken of, muft be nothing but thofe Lakes which I plainly faw, when I was the fartheft from the Boat after a Herd of Deer, of which 1 killed two at that Time: What they calllflands were nothing but uneven Mountains and deep Valleys, as we found elfe where on both Sides of the River fF'ager ; fo that I am certain that it is all main Land, and that the River runs but very iizth higher up, and towards tliQ North- ward, not only from the little Water we found it flowed /IT. ite Qiiar- :his Depo- Time the fjdf which board the found the ^eagues a- le freliier* 2S below a 3untainous ^r, from ater ; the :re at leaft It between f narrow^ le League nt farther ;ween the 3y melted and that the South :ry where id, where 3f Waters kes which I the Boat vo at that ut uneven elfewhere lat I am the River le North- ; found it flowed R E P O R T S, eJ^^. ^r fio^ed the higheft wc could go, which was not above five or fix Foot, but that the Water was fo frefli all the Way, from three or four Leagues above Deef Sound, that the Men drank it along-fidc, and boiled their Vcnifon, and made Broth, and drank of it. My Opinion is, that the Freflinefs of the Water could not be caufed by melted Snow and the Ice from the Mountains ; if fo, the lower Parts of the River, or nearer to its Entrance, as alfo the fVelcome, thd Niw-ftraits and Repulfe Bay, would have been frcfh, or but brackifh, from the far greater Quantities of Ice and Snow, from the valt Number of Water- falls which empty themfelves in there, which, on the contrary, we found as fait as the 0ng» and ran four Knots off the Mouth of the frozen Straits, and alfo in the narrow of the new Sjrait. And this Deponent farther maketh Oath, that all the Way between the River H^ager, and the Latitude 6^° ot Brook Cohbam^ they werefureof the main Land, and were never above three or four Leagues off, excepting in one or two Places where meeting with Ihoal Water. We lay too in the Night- time and in thick Weather, that we mightnot pafs any Place unfeen, and ftood in Shore in the Day -, and that oflf the Head-land in 63° and 20° we were not two Leagues from it in nine Fathom Water. We coafted all along SJiore, and anchored at Brook Cob- f^am. And this Deponent farther maketh Oath, that the two northern Indians were fo far from being forced Hi 'A ™,(;'i m m ^'-1 I * u'l% IM' n It' I i;i: r ' IS |4' j^ RE PORTS, c^"^. forced into a leaky Boat againft their Will, that thff went voluntarily into a good tight Boat, which th i Deponent faw well caulk'd two Days before, and feemed highly pleafed at their Departure, as well they might, for they had more Arms, Ammunition and Goods given them than they could have traded in feven Years. And this Deponent farther maketh Oath, that he was two Nights afhore upon Brock Cobbam, or Marble IJland^ with the Indians, and faw them work the Boat with Sails and Oars, and that they had but two Leagues to the main Land, and defigned as foon as they got on the main Land, to rip the Boat up, and make Sledges, according to the Country's Cuftom, as the Linguift informed me. And this Deponent further maketh Oath, that he never heard of any Rumours about the Negled of the Difcovery bn board either of the Ships, but quite to the contrary ; Captain AUddUton's Treatment was very kind both to Officers and Men i and that no Body could take more Pains and Care in making all Kinds of Obfervations that might help towards a Difcovery 5 as alfo in inftrudling others who were ignorant, to do the like. And this Deponent farther maketh Oath, that out of above twenty Men which they had on board the Difcovery from Churchill home, there were not above four or five in a Watch able to go aloft to hand or reef a Sail, including Officers, though this Ship was better manned than the Furnace \ infomuch that in JVager River they were obliged to fend moll of their Hands to affift aboard the Furnace^ where they had few befides fick Men. And this Deponent farther maketh Oath, that there was no Appearance of any Inlets or Straits that could give any hopes of a Paflage from the Latitude 6^'* to 67° and 20', excepting the frozen Straits and River IVager : For I am very certain from the time X vvaa u^vii uiOuiw K^uvuujn, liiUL iiicrc was liu iip-^ pearance of any Inlets, Straits, or River j nothing but :5| that thf f i^hich th J foFC, and , as well imunition ve traded r maketh )on Brook and faw and that and, and Land, to ng to the med me. , that he "egledt of lips, but 'rcatmcnt and that 1 making :owards a i^ho were nt farther [en which Churchill a Watch including 1 than the :hey were ft aboard ick Men. that there hat could tude 6^'^ raits and the time no Ap" nothing but REPORTS, d-C. 3j but a day. And this Deponent farther maketh Oath* that he never heard of any Concealment of a Paflage, or Negledl, or ill Ufage to the Ships Companies or Indians : For furely if there had, he this Deponent fliould have known of it at the Iflands of Orkney ac our Return, or in the River of Thames ^ before our Ships were paid -, for it is nothing but what has been newly trump'd up by Vilains for their own Pnrpofes. And this Deponent farther maketh Oath, that he fincerely beKevcs, no Man had the Difcovery fo much at heart as Captain Middleton ; for on Friday Aug. 6, 1742. in the Evening, being off Cape Hope^ and taking it to be the extream Part of Ame- rica, feeing no Land to the Northward of that Cape over Night in our Way, he was fo overjoyed at the Sight thereof, that he ordered on that Account both the Ships Companies ftrong Beer to drink j but many others, both Officers and Men were quite diflieartned for fear of undergoing another difmal Winter, if that had proved a Paffage, feeing at all Times Captain Middleton*s Boldnefs, in encoun- tering with Dangers more thnn they ever faw •, as I have heard them all declare, both Ships Companies, in all the Years they had ufed the Sea, and none with greater Care, as being always upon Deck when the Ship was under Way, and near Land or Danger : This I have heard often repeated from the Furnace*^ Officers and Men. And this Deponent farther ma- keth Oath, that there was put on board of the Dif- covery Pink, Goods, fomewhere in the River of Thames^ to be traded in Hudfon*s Bay, as Mr. J ante i Smith affirmed to me feveral Times, with the In- dianjj for Skins or Furrs ; and that the aforefaid Goods, on board, were fuch as the Hudfonh Bay Company traded with the Natives there* And this Deponent farther maketh Oath, that he hath no: only feen the Goods which were in Bales and Chefts, but has alfo feen the Invoice. And this Deponent C farther 1 il ^1 Hi' s rl J+ R E P O R T S, eJ'. farther ttiakcth Oath, that the faid James Smith, told him fcveral times, that the faid Goods did coft in England^ above one hundred Pounds Sterling ; and that he faid his Brother Samuel Smithy had provided the aforefaid Trading Goods on Board of the Difc(h very Pink. Richard Guy. Middle/ex^ J Sworn before me, the I r. „ .^ . to wit. i 26th of Sepi. ly^^. \ J.FoulfiH, WP ipw i-^ m :-^ REPORTS, ei-r. Mr. Butler's Reports. •u THESE are to certify whom it m^ or doth concern, that I John Butler^ have carefully ex- amined the Vocabulary of the northern Indian Lan- guage, which is faid to be taken by Edward Thomp- fon, from the Mouths of the two Indians who were on board of his Majefty's Ship Furnace, Captain Mddleion, Commander ; in his late Voyagfe on the Difcovery, in 1742. which is printed in Mr. Dobbs'% Account of the Countries adjoining to Hudfon*s Bay, is all falfe, and is only impofing upon the Public ; can be nothing but what he has formed from his own Brain ; it is no Tongue that I have ever heard fpoken from any Indian that ever came down to the Faclory j alfo his way of counting is falfe. m : \'v March, 8, 1743. John Butler, .'i mi i« REPORTS, irC 1- ii \ ' > f' 1 1 ■' £ ' ! ' '' ' ' ! 1 J > i , Mr. DevtW% Report of the Converfations be has bad with Mr. Rankin, Mr. Thompfon, and Mr, Wygate, late Lieutenant, Surgeon, and Clerk ClnA !>'»#>.. .~ what would have become of diem all, for as it was, they ; hf has in, afjci >n, and he Com- id others the late Metoft^a )Id Ac- er, and I. Upon n, if I Paflage »f yime- opcr to lis Ma* defired ic went ;. He and all Board, a great bompfon n\h me .1 times them- >r Life- asthe idleton, would :ry, as Ship's ?, Ex- m had anger, t was, they R E P O R T S, cS^r. J7 they never cxpeftcd to have feen England, on the Account of the dangerous Navigation, and having not above four or five Men in a Iratch able to do Duty aloft, before they got to the JJlands of Orkneys^ where they imprcft eight or nine Men. This was conftantly repeated, whenever we fat down in in Company together, out of the Captain's Com- pany, by all the aforefaid Gentlemen, and by all others on Board that ever I heard. I was fcveral times in Company with the faid Of- ficers, as abovementioned, and lay on Board the Furnace, after the Ship came up to IVoolwich 5 the Captain intrufted me to get his Stores on Shore, when he has been afliore about other Bufmefs ; they were always upon tlie fame Story, about what a Miracle it was, that they had got home again ! What greater Matters the Captain had done ! And none ever could have done fo much, nor none would ever be able to do the like, i^c. After the Ship was out of Commiflion, which was the 1 6th Day of Nov. the Captain got me to go down, and get every thing that belonged to him out : He was at my Houfe, where his Lodgings werje, when in Town ; then I knew they had found no Paffage was there out of the Bay into the Weftern Ocean of America : So, fays I to them, I find you you did not find the Pafl^ige ? No, they all anfwered, we had done all that could be done j if there had been any fuch Thing, the Captain would have found it out J but it was the fame, he has put it for ever out of Difpute for the future, and had gone a great many- Leagues farther than any before him had done, and farther Tryals that Way would be needlefs : If there had been a PafTage, the Devil might go that Way for them ; thofe Parts were never clear of Ice, above a Week or a Fortnight in a Year, and they thanked their GOD that they had got fafe Home again, i^c. Ail this, bpth the Lieutenant^ Surgeon, and Clerk, C a have i. ]| If I M 1 H- P' ' i ; 1 ' il 1 • ■1 V I 1 '► ■■ m^t d ?» REPORTS, ^c. have faid often in my Company at my Houfc, and at other Places where we were together, declared the lame, or Words to the fame EfFed, until after Lbnjtmas 1 742. or until ff^y^ate fliew'd me a Letter vnich he had received from Mr. Dobbs ; and then He altered his Tone, but the Lieutenant continued the fame, until after Dobbs came to England, and until after he Ihewed the Captain and me a Letter that he had received from Mr. Dobbs, to go and dine with him, and alfo when he had figned the Captain's Journal, along with the Maftcr and Mr James Smithy at my Houfe. Mr. PFygate lodged next Door .^o me, in a Houft of mine, four Months after the Ship was paid -, and he and his Wife often eat and drank at my Table, along with the Captain ; there was alfo very often the Lieutenant coming to fee Capt. Middleton, he was a long time in a bad State of Health, that I had much of their Company, as alfo the Surgeon -, the great Matters whidh Capt. Middkton had done in ^ AA ^ Voyage were always in their Mouths, 6f^ Mr. Sam- ;el Smith, often ufed to come to Captain Middkton, and feveral more of Mr. Dobbs's Friends 5 but the laft time Samuel Smith came was the begin- ning of February, and much importuned Capt. Mid- dletan to Avrite to Mr. Dobbs, that there might be ftill hopes of a Paffage, though he thought otherwife I remember very well that the Captain fpoke of it with fome Surprize, juft after Smith was gone, to me and my Wife J and we all thought it a ftrange Saying, I ?> ,5 Captain, what An.wer he made him ; Lapt. Middleton faid, he told him that he could do no fuch Injuftice, fince all Things proved the con- trary. Either that Night or the next Night, I carried a Letter unleaied, with fome other PaDer<5 I HiH n-^ the Captain inclofe in it, for Mr. Smith along with him for Mr. Dobbs, he , to carry was to fet out early REPORTS, ire. ?9 early in the Morning for lrdand\ I paid a Bill the Morning he fat out, and brought the Captain, ^W% Receipt. It was at this time, or a Day or two before the Bill was paid, that Smith fpoke thefe Words a- bove, tho' he wants to be off it now, I fee bv Mr J)ohy% Book. ^ Mr. Ranhn was tjie firft that came to Capt. Mtd^ dleton and (hewed him a Letter from Mr. Bohhs^ as is related in Capt. Middleton'sBook. Alfo Mr. James Smith's coming feveral times, as is related in Capt. Middleioifs Book, I know to be true, and can add farther, that Thompfon and IVygate threatned to beat him the faid Smith, for telling Capt. Mtddleton what they were about, and faid, Capt. Middleton defervcd to be cut into pound Pieces t, and they threatned Smith ; he was very mu..* frightned. This was at the time that the faid Smith came to defire Capt. Middletun to give him one of his Maps for Capt. Obrian, he alfo aflced the Cap- tain to lend him a little Money to carry him on board, and he would give him a Note on his Bro- ther for that, and what he had had of him in the Voyage, that he might get out of the way oifVygate ^nd Thompfon, which the Captain did, andheftayed till it was Night for fear of the faid Thompfon and fVy- gaie. The Captain defiredhim to (lay a little longer until he faw Mr. Rankin and the Mafter, whomTie expefted to come up to compare their Journals with his. Mr. RanJdn came the next Day, after Smith had been telling the Captain about the two above Perfons, the faid Rankin and mifon together with Smith, com! pared the Furnace^ Journal together, as is related in the Captain's Book, and Rankin and Wilfon de- clared an Abhorrence of Mr. Bohh's pradifing with r,;,4 *u„ wi iiiuiij saiiu tiicy "would go no more f Compare this with the Affidavits of Thopmfon and Wwate m Mr. Dobb's Remarks, p. 148. of his Appendix, ' C 4 to '* s ;; '! 11 m 1 m -; Ml lit It!! I .'■'■ .' 40 B. E P O R T S, ^<-. » Mr. Dobis again. Says the Captain. Dobh hai IndHY« T' y°!! '"/hj Voyage, he laughed Wife ! "^ °^ " '*f°"= ^« '°''' my Soon after this I being in Company with Mr ffygal^, and he ihewing his Letters which he had received from Mr D.bh, and what great Matters Hefwore he went that Voyage only^o get to be made Purfer. and that Capt. A^^fo;, mfght have made him one if he pleafed, and if he would not! fome body muft do it, or Words to that Effeft, and W he never made a Voyage but lie made fome body pay h.m a ,00/. more than his Wages, and thus he went on, why Ihould Captains get a and he none. I do not know I ever faw him foberone Day m a Week all the Time that he was at ho,^! unlefs when he was fick in Bed with Drink!n<.. which ufedtobetwoDaysoutoffeven. and this°;ay all Dobl'^! """' *"' ^°V ^'' g°"^' ^"d that Mr Capt. Mddletott and other Gentlemen to the lire " '^e D.ke of Bedford; Yatch. making Obfe^^a! ^ons and trying an Inft-ument, by Order of the on board x)^cM>nmouth with Capr. ff^yndham I was and bad been the Voyage m the F«rLe with him t " tiTe or""""f ' ''/ "^r ■^^ '"' ^- Friend ^.nd 0.,/, what trouble Capt. Midd/,i«» h^A p,.t "-rit tlTfaif.,'"^"" '"^ ^'•^"^' '"ey "we;; l^M -.d fa,d they were the worft of Men, and would Iwear REPORT S,^c, 41 fwear any thing for Lucre or Gain, that Capt. Md- dleton deferved the greateft Encouragement, for what he had done to fcrve the Public, and they were fure none could have done more. Mr. Gill came up with us, having Leave from Capt. Wyndham in getting another Man in his Room. Capt. Middleton fent down to Mr. Undrick his Book, and when he had read it, and came to Town, the Ship's Com- pany had Leave, whilft their Ship was repairing, to come to Town, and when up, called ieveral times at my Houfe, and went into the Country to dine With the Captain, and dcfired he would get an Order from the Admiralty to fummons them, for without that, they fhould difoblige feme of their Friends in Town, as alfo in Ireland, if they fliould declare the Truth without being compelled to it ; that every thing that was in that Book againft Capt. Mddktm was falfe, they could take their Oaths of it. Buc before they went away, they would give Capt Mtd* dleton a Letter from under their Hands, to fatisfir him that nothing Ihould alter them from fpeaking the Truth, which Letter I have feen and was few up from the Nore, and moft of the Men as they ^^\f^ \°^"' t"^ ^° ^^^^ o" ^he Captain and offer him their Affidavits to the Truth of what they knew in particular -, John Armount came after the Captain feveral times, but he thanked them, he be- lieved It would not fignify much, and fince I fee the Honourable Lieutenant Rankin has got him Armomit to fupport his Nonfenfe again. I (hall be willing- tp make Oath of the Truth of what I write here in cafe that it is required. , ( \ I'M . ^\ March 26, 1744. John Dewilde, !1 Cffruwall ; 'M ♦* L E T T E R, ^r. r? M Cornwall Downs, March I ^ I743-4- SIR, TO the bed of our Judgment we have wrote Anfwers to your ^eries^ and are greatly concerned, that fuch a brave juft Commander has been fo barbaroufly ufed by thofe you always treat- ed as your Children. We heartily wilh that it were in our Power to ferve fuch a brave Commander as you have been to us, and hope that Juftice will take Place, which will be great Satisfadion to Tour moft bumUe Servants, John Donalfon^ Cooper. IVilliam Iverfon^ Quarter-Mafter. George Monro, Seaman. J^oberi Gill, Gunner's Mate. ihi 1 ^':\. .'•'.f . QLTERIES Q^U E R I E S, ^r. 743-4- ve wrote e greatly inder has lys treat- It it were Tiander as ftice will 1 to r-Mafter. late. 43 QIJ E R I E S anfwered hy John Donalson, Cooper i WiTLiAM Iverson, Seaman j George Monro, and Robert Gill, late under the Command of Captain Chris- topher MiDDLETON, Commander of his Majefl/s Sloop furnace. Queries. WHETHER the Lieutenant and Mafter went up PFager River, on their Return, they faid th*; Water was frefh the higher they went up, but barely brackifli above Beer-Sound, and that moft of the Men drank of it, along- fide of the Boat all the Way for two or three Leagues above Deer- Sound, going up the far- theft the Boat went. Answers. THElaftTimethe Lieutenant and Mafter went up Wager River, at their Return on board, they declared the higher they went up the River the Water frefhen'd j and that above Deer - Sound the Men drank of the Water a- long-fide of the Boat in the Mid-Channel, and all the Boat's Crew de* dared the fame. I'' I * M •I' ■ in< n\ :ries II. Whether they did not hear the Lieutenant and Mafter, and Richard Guy, and all the Men that were up the River in the Boat, when fartheft up, fay at tneir Return, and feveral Times in our Voyage home, that there was no IL We have heard the Lieutenant, Mafter, and Richard Guy, and all the Men that were in the Boatdeclare feveralTimes in our Voyage home, that it was a frefli Water Ri- ver, and that there was no going fkirther up for Water- 'in ill 4* QUE R IE S, ^r. [; « I-' will going farther up the faid Water - falls and frelh River, for Water-falls Streams. We farther de- and a frefli Stream •, and dare, that we never heard that it was impofllble to any Officer defire Leave expea any Hopes of a to fearch farther up }Fa» PalTage that Way, up a ger River, frefh Water River into the Weftern Ocean, or . tlie South-Sea ; and whe- ther tjiey did ever hear any Officer on board de- fire the Captain to let them make any more •Trials up the fajd River, III. Whether they ever beard me threaten any Man or Officer for fay- ing the Difcovery was negle<5led by me, and whether there was any high Words ufed by me that I would cane fome and broomftick and la(h others if they concerned themfelves about a Paf- %e. III. We declare that we never heard any high Words ufed by Captain Middleton to any Officer or Seaman on board, a- bout the Paflage, or ever heard it fpoken that the Paflage was negleded ; on the contrary, we far- ther declare, that Capt. Middleton inftrudted the Lieutenant, Mafter, and all other Officers that v^ould afl? him any Quef- tions, that they wanted to know, how to heave the Log, try the Cur- rents, work their Day's Work, ^r. and drav/ Charts and Maps of the Coafl. Whe- Q.tJ E R I E S, 6-c, %i md frelh 'arther de- iver heard ire Leave r up Wa-' that we ny high ' Captain y Officer ►oard, a- ;, or ever that the gle^Ved ; we far- at Capt. 6ted the fter, and :ers that ny Quef- wanted 1:0 heave he Cur- ir Day's id draw •s of the Whe- IV. Whether when we got out of Wager River we did not meet the Flood Tide in going to the Eaftward, towards the frozen Straits, and whe- ther we did not try the Tide every Hour or eve- ry two Hours with the Current Log or Grap- ling, and loft one Grap- ling in trying the Tide a Day or two after we got out of the River by the Itrong Tide of the Narrows of the New Straits half Way betwixt Wager River and the frozen Straits, where I went afhore, andafterthe Grapling was loft by the Matter he tried ic 'again, and whether it did not run above four Knots. V. Whether the Gunner and Carpenter next Mor- ning after they were on board declared, that the Place they landed upon, was or was not an Ifland, and whether they did re- port it was 5 as they could IV. We very well remem- ber, fhat when we got out of Wager River we met the Flood Tide, which came ftrong from Eaftward, where we dif- covered the frozen Straits^ we tried the Tides every Hour or every two Hours with our Current Log. We remember that the Mafter loft a Grapling in trying the Tide a Day or two after we got out of Wager River by ths. Strength of the Tide, which ran four Knots ia • the new Straits, V. We remember that when the Gunner and Carpenter and fome other Men came on board, they faid that the Place they bad been on was main Land, and that it aclu- ally joined to the low Mid- .Mr " m m i s I ! r i A iV ■I '■ a 4# (IV E R fee fiirther than I ; whe- thcr it was not confirmed on board, that there was no Tide between the low Beach and Czl^q Frigid? and whether the Ship had not Jike to have been hauled into the frozen Straits, and when I went from the Ship whether I did not order the Lieute- nant to make Sail from the Mouth of the frozen Straits, for Fear of the TideofEbb,whichItold him was made a little af- ter 8 that Morning fhould haul the Ships in ; and whether I did not go from the Ship that Morning a- bout lo o'clock, whe- ther the Carpenter did not give me a Drawing of that frozen Strait the next Morning, done with a Black-lead Pencil, and whether he and the Gun- ner both agreed that this Strait was full of Ice from Side to Side i whe- ther iht Time I was a- fhore there, the Difcovery Pink was ever above a Mile or two from the Furnace while they were working and ftaying for iny coming off? 1 E S, ^r. Beach. We flirther re- member, that Captain MiddletoH ordered the Lieutenant to make Sail from the large Opening that we then faw, which was the Mouth of the frozen Straits, the Tide of Ebb being made a little after 8 that Morn- ing, and then the Cap- tain went on Shore in the fix oar*d Boat to high Land, which was no;: &r from us i this was about lo in the Morning, the Tide fat ftrong into this Strait or Inlet. We very well remember that they all agreed that the Place was not an Ifland, and thathe,theCarpcnter,gavc Capt. Middleion aDraught of the frozen Straits the next Morning with a Black-lead Pencil, and that all the Straits were faft froze. We remember that all the Time the Captain was on Shore, that the Difcovery Pink was not above a Mile or two from the Furnace, iying to for the Boat, and fome of us have feen the Copy of the Draught with theCarpenter aftcrhe came to England in his own CuRoiiy. Whe- ^irther re- Captain lered the make Sail i Opening w, which :h of the the Tide ; made a lat Morn* the Cap- tore in the : to high vas no: far was about ning, the ; into this We very that they the Place [and, and ;nter,gavc aDraughc Straits the ; with a icil, and raits were remember rime the Dn Shore, icry Pink a Mile or Furnace^ :he Boat, have feen : Draught :er aftcrhe \nd in his Whe- Q^U E R I E S, ire 47 yi. YL Whether in our Re- We very well remem- turn fsom Cape Friffi^, bcr, that the above Que- where I was laft on ry are really Matter of Shore, to the Ifland of Fad, and nothing but Brook Cohbam, we did the real Truth, not fee the Land all the Way very plain? whe- ther we did not keep as near the I^and as the Rocks and Iflands would permit us all the Way from Hn}alebone Point to Brook Cobbam, excepting in one or two Places where we met with Shoal Water and thick Wea- ther; we did not iland in with the fame Land again we had left and rounded all the Bays fo as to make it plain the main Land ; whether we were feldom above 3 Leagues or four off the Shore, except in the Night, and then ftood back the next Morning to fetch up what we had loft by driving all the . Way fronn 64 to Brook Cobbam, I . 1' if ■- M I "A I '^1 iA !1' Whc5 4^ Q,U E R I E S, &c^. VII. Whether we did not conftantly every Hour, or every two Hours, heave Che Ships to found and try the Tides with the Current Log, not only in our Outward-bound PalTage from Brook Cob- barfly where we wa- ter'd at, but alfo in our Return ? Whether we did not conftantly do this every Hour in lying to, and got the Slack of the the Tides at hi^h and low Water? vii. W"? very well reniem« ber, conftantly every twd I lours we hove the Ship too, to found and try the Tides outward and home- . ward bound from Brook Cobbavt^ and that we wa- tered there. We remem- ber, that the Captain wai extraordinary careful to have the heights of the Tides, and low Water. : m VIIL Whether they in their own -onfcience, ever be- lieved that any Negledt could be charged to me in the Voyage ? Or, whether they think, I could have found, or did know of any Paflage in- to the South Sea, and concealed it? Whether every Officer and Man in both Ships were not overjoy 'd, when they heard and faw we were 1*^ ^%^ *■ *« « »^ yw Difcovery, or whether Vllf. We are certain in oaf own Confcience,thattherie never was the leaft Room for any Sufpicion that Captain Middleton ever negleded the Difcovery, but on the contrary wc believe that he had the Difcovery at Heart more than any Officer or Man on board ,^ by his Cori* du<5l and Behaviour to all the Ship's Company, he encouraged every Officer f^ ^_j nyr.-- -u.-- l.-. j UiiU IVIUII Ltiai iiaU Ult I aft Notion of Seartian- ihip (^ U E R I t S, (i-r* remem- ^ery twd he Ship I try the d home- 1 Brook we wa- remem- tain wai refui to of the Vater. : I in out lattherie tRoom m thac m ever covcry, rary we lad the ft more 3r Man IS Coll- ar to all iny, he Officer -J ^1- _ eartian- Ihip the Lieutenant or any Of- ficer in either Ship would have had me to have made any farther Search, ajjd I refufcd it ? whe- thCT I did not keep the Deck more than anyOffi- cer in the Ship,and was as often at the Maft- head to look out for all Openings and broken Lands, as a- ny Perfon on board ? ID 4i> fliip in every curious Queftion that they alked him, and was always fa- tisfied to fee any Officer and Man forward to en- quire into the Nature of the Paflage. We realy believe that the Captain never knew any thing of a Paflage into the South Sea that Way ; we very well remember, that all the Ship's Company, Of- ficers included, were o- verjoyed when we return- ed from the Difcovery, I, John Donalfon^ and JVilliam Iverfon have of- ten heard the Lieutenant declare, that he was more fatisfied than if he had re- ceived looo/. and hoped that he fliould fee England once more, and that he really believed underGod, that all our Lives were owing to Captain Mid- dlelon's Care, Condud, and good Management. We declare that we never heard it talk'd of that any Officer ever defired the Captain to make any farther Search, but on the contrary were all o- verjoyed, as we have faid before ; we declare that the Captain was often at D the 1/ '.il > '-A ■4 JO li'f i If I. ; Pi f ■ * , |. .'. ' , 'I ' ilf! 1 Si, il 1 0.0 E R I E S, e5^r. the Maft head, and kept the Deck more than any Man or Officer on board, and that we have known him to keep the Deck for 48 Hours i we never faw the Lieutenant up aloft all the whole Voyage, IX. Whether I tver threat- ned the Surgeon for be- ing too intimate with the Indians, to come at a Knowledge of a Paflage, or whether tlie Surgeon underftood any thing thofc Indians faid, or whether they ever heard the Lin- guift ever fpeak of the Indians knowing of a Paflage, or a Way to a Copper -minejand I wou'd not hear them, or whe- ther any fuch thing was ever mentioned on board of the Ship, in the Voyage home, or after we came home, before they faw or heard of my Book. IX. We very well remem- ber, that Captain Mid- dleton never threatned the Surgeon but for Negleft of his Duty, which well might be done ; and if he had his due he would be hang*d like a Dog as he is i Captain Middleton always encouraged the Vilain. Captain Middle- ton gave the Indians all forts of Goods and Toys that he had, to encourage them to inllrudl the Sur- geon in their Language, but it was impoflible for any Man to have learnt any of it in fo fhort a Time as they were on board ; nor we nor any Man on board ever heard the Linguift ever fpeak of the Indians knowing of a Paflage or Way to a Copper -mine. Whe- and kept than any )n board, c known Deck for lever faw up alofc 3yage. Q.U E R IE S, e!^^. I femem- lin Mid- itned the Negleft lich well i and if le would I Dog as Middleton ged the I Middle- dians all nd Toys 1 courage the Sur- mguage, flible for ve learnt fhort a were on nor any ^er heard er fpeak knowing Way to Whe- X. Whether they ever heard me threaten to take away any Books or Pa- pers from any Body on board, or whether I hin- dered any Body on board from keeping Books and Journals, or whether I hindered any thing to be marked in the Logg- Book that could give a- ny Hopes of a Paflag'^^ during our Voyage. X. We never heard the Captain threaten to take any Books or Papers from any Body, but on the contrary encouraged eve- ry Perfon on board ; we never heard that the Cap- tain hindered any thitig being entered into the Logg . Book ; but in fhort we are very confci- ous, that the Captain did endeavour to the utmoft of his Power to difcover a Paflage, and what we have afTerted in Anfwer to thefe feveral Queries, we are ready to make Oath of the Truth in e- very Point, as Witnefs our Hands this fecond Day of Marcb^ 1743-4. On hoard the Cornwall in the Downs, Captain Holmes Commander, D is. ; III John Vonalfvn. William Iverfon. George Monro, Robert Gilly 1 1 m aU E R I E S. m p Q.U E R I E S, d'C. If 1 I'M' r 1 " ii, la !< QJJ E R I E S Anfwered by Roier^ Carew Mate of the Difcovery. Queries. WHether the lad Time the Lieu- tenant and Matter went up Wager River, there was any Ice to interrupt the Paflage of the Boat, from the time they left the Head Land above Deer Ssund, until they arrived at the high Bluff on the Weft Side of the Channel, and whether the Water was not Salt, and above 68 Fathoms Deep the whole Way over, and the Strait from 8 to lo Leagues Wide, and whe- ther the Channel Courfe after they came up with that Bluff, did not bear w. s. w. II. • Answers. I WAS not in the Boat up Wager River , but when the Boat returned on Board of the Furnace, Mr. Moor came from her and ordered me to write in the Difcoverf% Logg- Book, that the Lieutenant had given an Account that there was no Likelihood of a Paffage that Way, it was nothing but a River ; and all our Men that were Part of the Boat's Crew, declared the Water was fo Frefh after they had got up two Leagues above Deer Sounds that all the Men drank of it Along-fide, and that they could not go up much higher foi Falls of Frelh Water. n. Whether when they I know no more of this went on Shore on that than relating to the Water's high Land, the Lieute- being Frcfh, which every nantdid not fee a great one of the Boat's Crew that Opening, or a large Col- were up in the Boat drank of Robert .s. the Boat very but urned on Furrtace, From her to write s Logg- eutenant ount that kelihood It Way, but a Dur Men of the lared the e(h after up two ! Deer the Men ing-fide, )uld not jher foi ater. e of this Water's :h every rew that It drank of Q^U E R I E S, 6'C' f5 Ic6lion of Water over the of it, and found it but Ifland to the Northward barely Brackilh. of them, with Broken Lands to the Weft ward, as high as the Lands at the Cape of Good Hope *, and whether the Mafter who went much higher up upon the Mountains did not over-look all the Iflands in the Main Chan- nel, and faw a large Paflage or Strait 4 or 5 Leagues wide beyond them, the Channel Courfe bearing diredlly S. W, with high Lands on each Side, ail thereabouts ap- pearing to be Broken Lands, the whole Chan- nel being free from Ice, or any thing to obftruft their going farther? whe- ther he did not find the Water fait there, and upon his Return to the Boat was defirousof proceeding far- ther, but the Lieutenant having already exceeded his Orders durft not go any farther. ifl HI. %A III. Whether the Captain Whether the Captain did not limit them to go limitted them or no, I only to Deer Sound or know nothing of; we did thereabouts, and come propofe to Sail as he had D 3 done f + Q. U E R I back with the utmoft di- spatch, the Nature of the Service would alJow of, and whether after Sailing about 15 Leagues farther and giving him a Return under their Hands, that there was another Paffage into the Sea, befides that the Ships went in at ; the Captain did not immedi- ately prepare to fail out of the River without pro- ceeding upon the Difco- very, and failed out of the River to the North iiaftward the 4th of ^uguft. E S, ^c. done for above 15 Days before •, always ordered both Ships to be in Rea- dinefs, to fail as foon as pofTible we could get out for Ice, to profecute the Difcovery, and meet the Flood Tides. li V\ IV. Whether there were xx°rL r^^"y ^^'^^ b'^^k vvhales above DeerScund JnthatPaffage; and whe- ther they faw any Whales below, or at the Entjance or mthouz PFager River, either in the Strait or Bay above Cnpe Hope, or in any other Part of the B ly or Straits of Hudfin, ex- cept on the N. W. Side near Brook Cobhatn, and whether they beheved thofe Whales came in from theEafl: or W^ff. cnd of PFager River or IV. ^ elcoj)2e, pretty near the Entrance of the Rher ^ager, and one Sea- horie, and fcveral Seals, but had not the Oppor- tunity of feeing any up the Rher JVager ; being ^i\ the time we were there onboardoftheZ);>^vTy Pifik, but never heard of any being fecn higher up than Deer Sound, by any that was in the Boat. • It was every Body's Opinion --t 1 luii^ea wjth, that thoJe Whales came all m (IV E R Straits, and whether in their own Judgment they did not think that there might be a Paffage from thence to the South Weft- ward ? Whether they believe that the Captain would have fent them up at that time, if he had not been alarmed, upon hearing that it was rumour'd a- mong his Men, that the Difcovery was negledled ; tho* from the Whales, Depth and Breadth of the Strait, there were Hopes of a Paffage, and whe- ther there were not fome high Words upon it, and harfli Words ufed by the Captain, that he would Cane fome and Broom- ftick and lafli others, if they reported any thing,or concerned themfelves a- hoMUheSucccfi ofiheVoyage, I E S, d'C. ss from the Eaftward from the frozen Straits, as alfo that JVager River was no- thing but a River, and that Whales could come into it no other Way than \vhere the Ships entered. V. It is my fincere Belief, that Captain Middleton had the Difcovery at Heart more than any Thing in this World *, neither did I ever hear of any Threat- nings made ufe of by Capt. Middleton to either of the Ship's Company, nor did any one feel any of its EfFedls, but he was always Kind and Civil to all, and would inform and inftrudt every Body con- cerning the Difcovery, and Navigation, or any thing elfc who ever would learn. VI, Whether when the Lieutenant and Mafter were carried out of the River by the Rapidity of D VI. I know no more of this than they were in great Danger oilofeiiig the Boat and themfelves among 4 the ft- I '] ^^i ill :h., »':"fh«: tm 5 w m mi '':l\ ^1^^^. itHi&d ■ l'''''iH ill B'l PI |p|| ■ii ^ ^8 Remarkahle Obfer vat ions, &c. July 7, 1742. Moderate Gales and foggy. At 2 P. M. fliortned Sail for the Tender, founding from 60 to 90 Fa- thoms. At 10 fired a Gun for the Tender, ditto taclc'd. At i: pad I A. M. tack'd, ditto fired a Gun. We have tried the Tides feveral times fince we Ml Brook Cobham, and find little or no Tide, but that may be owing to the Diftance of the Land as we find in other Places, we have fcen no Whale as yet. July 8, 1742. Little Wind inclinable to Calms and hazy Wea- ther. At 6 P. M. faw a large Ledge of Ice to the Northward of us, founded 82 and Zo, Fathoms. At 12 ditto tiick'd, ditto founded 83 to 8 8 Fathoms. At 4 A, M. fiw the North-fide of the Welcome and much Ice in Shore the neareft of the Land N. W. Diftance 7 or 8 Leagues. At 8 ditto tried the Tides fet E. N. E. 2 Fathoms. At Noon the Weftermoft Land on the Northfide N. W. the Eallermoll N.E. neareft Diftance 7 or 8 Leagues, founded c^^ Fa- thoms, ditto exercifcd fmall Arms failing alon"" Shore at 5 Leagues Diftance. ^ July 9, 7742. Moderate Gales, and fair vVeatlier. At 2 P. M. altered the Courfe, ditto failing along a Ledge of Ice, ditto fired a Gun and (hortned Sail, ditto 3S Fathom in Sight of the North Shore. At 6 diilo made Sail, the Tender being come up with m, founded 43 to 54 Fathom, the Weftermoft Land in Sight from W. N. W. to N. E. by E. the neareft Diftance 7 Leagues. At 4 A. M. Paft much Ice. Ditto 68 Fathom. Ditto \\m the Eaft Side of the JVelcomCy S. by E. to the N. E. by E. the neareft Diftance 4 Leagues, a low even Land, the Weft- fide bore at the fame time from W. N. W. to N. in Sight, the Diftance 7 or 8 Lcagiies, io the IVel- corns fliortned ► 90 PsL- er, ditto fired a fince we ide, but id as we as yet. :y Wea- 2 to the 'athoms. 'athoms. mie and N. W. le Tides ilermoft •II N.E. 57 Fa- along I P.M. edge of ditto 3S 6 d^tto vith UP, I^and in ; nearell Lich Ice. e of the neareft I Weft. ^ to N. he /relr come on board his Majeflfs Ship^mmcc, a^c. 6c) €ome is 1 1 or 12 Leagues broad, here Soundings 44, 45» 47» 37> 35» 37 and 44 Fathoms Water,' ditto entred a Ledge of Ice failing among it. At 1 2 ditto very thick Foggs, lay too for the Tender, fired a Gun, founded 74 Fathoms ; we find good Soundings along both Shores ; at 3 or 4 Leagues Diftance wt find but little or no Tide here on the Shore, we are faft jammed up with Ice, no Opportunity to get on Shore to try the Height of the Tides, it's full of Ice from Side to Side. July 10, 1742. Frefh Gales and foggy Weather, up S. E. by S. off E. S. E. At 4 paft 12 P. M. the Fog cleared up a little i made fail toward the North Shore among the Ice, very much Ice all round, founded 6r^ vZ thoms, tried the Tide, kt N. E. by E. one Mile pr Hour. At 4 ditto made a Signal to grapple to the Ice, ditto fired 2 Guns. At 5 ditto grappled both Ships to a large Piece of Ice, to keep ofi^" Shore, the Wmd blowing on the South-fide. At 8 ditto fet the Land on both Sides of the Welcome, the Eaft Shore or South from S.S.E. round to the N.E. by E. the Weft or North Shore, from the Weft to the North, the neareft Diftance 6 or 7 Leagues, the South- fide Diftance 5 Leagues the neareft ; filled all our Water Caflcs. At 8 A. M. got down Top gallant Yards; Soundings from 45 to ss- J find here on this South- fide neither the Flood nor Ebb runs, by often Tryal with ourCui rent-Logg. Our Way made by driving in the Ice with the Wind, allowing the Variation is N. E. about 15 Miles, fohazy we cannot fee the Weft Shore, the Ealt Shore, is from S. by W. to the N.E.by E. in Sight, we drive E.N.E.by Com- pafs, and are not above 3 Leagues from the Eaftern Shore, but hope the Ice will fill b^tween us, and it 01, i"„. U/lll T"\fA»X7/V r^r^ ^■-.y-v..,^ » __^ _■ I I •v'%.i.t -^ur ijwii.Q \s:i KTiiuic, iui vvc arc noc aoiC to help our felves until the Winds fliift or Calm. E 3 July m #1 I it I -^^ 70 Remarkable Ofervations, 6cc. July II, 1742. Frefh Gales and Rain with wet Foggs. At 1 P. M, the Current fet N. E. by E. 4 Fathoms, founding 47 to 54. At 8 A. M. the Tide fet N. N. E. 4 Fathoms. At 10 ditto the Tide fet E. 6 Fathoms founded 28 Fathoms Water. At 12 Calm, the Ice opened as it ufually doth, we warp*d off from the Shore, by carrying out Graplings from Piece to Piece of Ice, the Tender did the fame ; our Drift fince Noon laft, by Account, has been N. E. when the Variation is allowed 15 Miles, we are ufmg all Means poffible to get off the Shore, the Tide fetting conftantly to the Eaftward, we Ihall endea- vour to get over towards the Whalehone Point to try for a Strait or Paffige, as foon as Ice and Wind wilj favour us, we were drove within 2 Miles of the Shore before we began to warp off. July 12, 1742. Moderate Gales and hazy, continue warping and fetting through among the Ice with our Poles being quite calm, got up Top gallant Yards. At 6 P. M, fet fail rowing and fctring open the Ice and towing with our Boar. At 9 ditto grappled to (lop for our Tender sMiJesoff Shore, this Eaft Side lieth N. N. E. and S. S. W. a low even Land. At 1 1 caft off our Grapplings and made fail the Tender coming up wirh us. At 2 P. M. grappled to a large Piece, a thick Fog coming on, fent our Boat to help the Tender to the fam^. At 4 ^. M got her faft to ditto Ice,^ foggy, 39 Fathoms, driving N. E. 2 Fathoms. At V paft 7 cafl off our Grapplings •, cleared up a little, made one Warp and fet fail. By 8 the Ice opened towards the North Shore. At 10 failing among fliattered Ice over for the North Shore, found- ed 43 Fathoms ^ way between the iwo Shores. Al- ia, founded 49, 48, and 46 grey Sand and Shells, fome I. At 1 Fathoms, Tide fct dc fet E. At 12 e warp*d igs from ne i our a N. E. are ufmg he Tide I endea- it to try ind wiij he Shore ing and 2S being towing for our N.N. caft off ling up iece, a ;lp the to diiio thorns, i up a he Ice failing found- u Ac Shells, fome on board his Majeflfs ShipVwxnt^cc, i^c. yi fame Stones -, a fair Head-land on the Nor^h Shore bore S. W by W. At Noon a fair Point of Land appeared to the Northward o^ fVhakbone Point bore S. W, by \V. the Eaftermoft Land on ditto Shore N. E. neareft Diitance 4 Leagues, Latitude 6^^ id, N. Longitude from the Meridian o^ London 88°. 6'. Weft i which we call C. Dobbs after the Honourable Arthur Dobbs, Efq; of Cajlle Dobbs in Ireland, and are now ftanding in for a fair Inlet or Strait that makes a fair Opening from us, but not very wide, to fecure our Ships from the Ice, in the fVelcome, being- in no Safety there among the Ice, nor can proceed farther until the Ice is gone or muft be forced to go back again, out of the fVdcome. July 13, 1742. Moderate Gales and fair Weather. At 2 P. M. Cape Dobbs bore S. W. by S. 7 or 8 Leagues Dif^ tunce, the Eafternmoft Land on rh North Side of the Opening E. N. E. that makes this Bay 9 or 10 Leagues broad ; the Entrance of the River N. W. by "^V. 4 Leagues from us running in for the River among failing Ice. Lay too one Gkifs for the Ten- der, having ordered her to lie too or ftand off until we could make the River, and then if we went in, to follow us. At 6 made the Signal for the Tender to come in. At lo P. M. almcll calm, much Ice, driving •, the Boat a towing and rowing of the Ship to get out of the Ice to anchor in fome Place. At 1 2 ditto anchored on the North Shore within fome Iflands to flop the Tide in 34 Fathoms •, v-ery much Ice driving down with the Tide of Ebb, we (teered all the Tide with a whole Cable, clear of ali the large Pieces of Ice, with all Hands fending off with Ice-poles. At 10 t M. ] went with the eight oar*d Boat to found and fearch the River for a Place where we Miight lie in Safety, to ride clear of the Driving of the Ice, the Soundings as we entered the River ■| f «'?i'l! ¥i E 4 were i'f If I 72 Remarkable Obfervations, ^c, were no lefs than 16 Fathoms, and moft of the way from i6Fathoms to 20, 30, 40, and 50, Fathoms, S'Ik w' ^^^^/-^^ Rocks that wepaffed over, being High Water, the Land is very high on both Sides! as . any m Emland, the Tide is much eafier where we anchored, it runs about 2 Miles an Hour. July 14, 1742. Moderate Gales and fliir Weather. At 4 P M, weighed our beft Bower Anchor and got into a better Koad within fome Iflands that we found ; our bed Bower Anchor Arm broke off, we went about 4 Miles higher up and anchored in a Sound between fome Iflands and the North Main in 16 Fathoms Water ; moored with our brokenAnchor and fmallBower near thofe mands, the Tender got in to anchor by us much Ice continued driving pad us, and heavy Pieces came foul of us, but the Tide ran but little here: More Eddy than Tide. Drew the Splice of the beft Bower Cable and fluffed him from the Starboard to the Larboard Side, feveral Efquimaux came on board of us ; we gave them Toys, but they had nothing^ to trade except it was their old Clothes, and a iitt e Train Oil. At y A, MA went up the River With the eight oar'd Boat mann'd and nrm'd, with 3 ndians and Provifions for 48 Hours, to dif. cover the River and obferve the Courfe of the Tides at High and Low Water. I found the Indians knew nothing of the Country as I went up the River. Jul;^ 15, lyj^z, ' F;;efli Gales and cloudy, e^///^ employed in ferving our Cables from being cut with the Ice i fet our Fifliing-Nets but got no Fifli among thofe Iflands, where we lay, or Rocks ; found them quite bare, ex' cept in iome lew Places in the Valleys a little fliort Grais and Mofs, a little Scurvy-Grafs near the Hi-h- »iiiiUiiii cne Dtoiici, aifo lb me o Sorre which 1 on hoard his Majeftfs Ship Furnace, ^c. 71 which was brought on board for our fick Men mto frefli Gales at E. S. E. this Wind has drove the Ice out of the IVelcme into the River and HUed It quite full. Many of our Men are very bad with the Scurvy, their old Diftemper ; thofe that were on recovery when we came from Churchill have grown worfe again, fo that we have not * half of them fer- vjceable. July 16, 1742. Frefh Gales and Squally. At 3 P. M. got down our Top Gallant Yards. At 10 ditto. Squally, lower d down our lower Yard, and got the Boat up m our Tackles. At 4 A. M. more moderate, got lip our lower Yards, cleared the Decks. At 6 loofed the Sails to dry. I find the Tide floweth here on Change Days at the Mouth of the River 5 Hours, and from 10 to 15 Foot, the Flood without comes from the Eaft by Compafs, the Courfe of the Land, but|iri the Middle of the Channel E.N.E. § by ditto. We found a good Cove near the Shore with 10 or 12 Fathom Water in it, about 2 Miles from where we lay, to fecure our Ships from the Ice, before the Spring Tides come on, where we now lye, we are obliged to keep all Hands up, all the Ebb, with Poles for fencing off the Ice to fecure our Cables. July 17, 1742. Moderate Gales and Fair Weather. At i P. M. I returned with the Boat and 3 Lidiam, having been up the River as far as the Ice would pcrtnit me, all * This contradias the Surgeon's Anfwer to Query 13 p xSz- rindkation, where he fays, we had not above 8 Men incapable of doing their Duty, out of 53 Men and Boys, and ne>^er Want- ed a Boat s Crew on any Emergency. $ This contnidifts his Anfwer to Query 6 before the Lords of the Admiralty, in which he fays, he was carried to the South- ward nigh the Rocks on the South Shore of Gate Dobhs bv the . .,., ... ^^.^^ ^-uj jii^ ivi.iucr CG enc iame ^ery ii-ys thev were carried S. E. by S. as the Courle of the Land lies by Com'pafs. above 11 Uf , J*' Hi ; «,' 74 Remarkable Obfervations, &c. above being faft from * Side to Side, I found good Soundings in the Channel 70 or 80 Fathom fofc Ground. I likcwife tried the Tides, and found the Flood came from the South, the Tide flowed 13 Foot it being Neap Tides •, I went upon the highcft Land to have as fair a Profpeft as poffibic with the Indmm^ but they knew nothing of thofe Parts of the Country. At 6 A. M, the Captain went with the Boat and 8 Hands to fee what Difcovf^ry he could make with the two Northern Indians -, Ditto made a Signal to unmoor ; ditto unmoor*d and warp'd the Ship into the Cove ; that it broke the Arm of the BifcoveryH Kedge Anchor warping in ; ditto fet the ForeCiil : A fniall Breeze of Wind. Tuly 18, 1742. Little Winds and fair Weather. At 2 P. M, came to with our bed: Bower Anchor in the Cove, and 9 Fa- thom Water. Ditto moorM between 4, and at 8 ditto fent the Mafter with I Men to get the Difiovery into the Cove, and moor*d her by us ; ditto fervtd all our Hawfers and Cables to prevent their being cut by the Ice. At 6 A. M, fcraped our Sides for Tar. I find that up the River a Weft Moon makes full Sea, the Flood comes in at the Mouth of the River, where we come in from the S. S. E. Ditto the Indians killed a fmall Deer, where the Captain lay all Night i ditto heard feveral of the Savages in the Night making uncommon crying, as they always do when they fee any Siranger, but none came near him. July 19, 1742. Moderate Gales and Hazy. At 4 P. M. paid the Ship*s Sides with Tar, the Captain went up the River abcu: . Miles from the Ship to a Sound, that ^ • This contr.iG.as Moor a Aufwer to Qijerv 12, who favs n=£rt "waj ftoi Ice to hinckr cur going o'vcr. ' * is m ' nd good om fofc und the 13 Foot :ft Land Indians^ Country, oat and ike with ignal to hip into fcoveryh ■"orefiiil : kf. came id 9 Fa- it 8 ditto >ery into vtd all eing cut or Tar. kes full : River, Htto the »cain lay :s in the kvays do nc near l-/. paid up rhe id, that \ho favs. is on hoard his Majejl/s Ship Furnace, crc. /f is about 6 or 7 Miles broad, but how flir it goes in Land we do not know, the Main River is in breadth here 6 or 7 * Leagues, but fo full of Ice § we can't get much farther at prefent ; all very high Land on both Sides this River ; it runs about N. by W. it appears at about 8 or 10 Leagues Higher to grow Narrower, but being fo full of Ice he could not go much farther. July 20, 1742. Moderate Gales and Hazy. Employed in over- hawling the Rigging : Much Ice driving up and down the River with the Tide. At 5 A, M. Em- ployed our Hands with Boats and Ice Poles, in clearing our Moorings. At 8 P. M. the Captain returned and brought 6 Deer on Board with him which the two Indians killed, ht -j J. M, ftrap- ed the Mafts : Ditto the Captain wen: down the River to fee if he could find a Place or H irbour to fecure the Ships near the Mouth of the River, if wc Ihould be taken ftiort in going down, and to fee if the Wellcome is now clear of Ice : Part of the Deer was given to the Tender, fome ferved out to our Sick Men, over and above their Allowance, what was very (trange, in all their SIcknefs, even a Day or two before they died they would eat their whole Allow- ance, and a great deal more if they had it. Hj found the Land in many Places bare, hardly any thing but Rocks of a Marble Kind, but between the Vales there is many Lakes, and Grafs Plenty : There is Plenty of Deer upon the lead IQand -, we fiw 5 or 6, and it is not half a Mile rounJ, they are as large as a fmull Horfe 12 or 13 Hands high -, many Ducks, and other Water Fowls ; fome black Whale we favv * Contrary to what is in hi? Report of the 16th oijuly, where the Breadth is 12 or 13. T/V^ Appendix following, p. 19, but this again, fince my Vindi«:ition has been printed, is altered to 6 or 7 Lea<»ues. S Moore is here again contradiilcd as to the Ice. in *! I t i-J m ■ !*■ I i' 76 Remarkable Obfervations, 5cc, in this Sound •, wc named it Deer Sounds after the Plenty of Deer we found there. July 21, 1742. Moderate Gales and Fair Weather. The People employed in mending the Quarter Nettings. At 4 4. M. the Captain came on Board with the Boat, being in great Danger of Staving her -, the River and Cove being fo very full of Ice, and Itrong Tides below, there is no getting out 'till the Ice is clear in the River, alfo in the Bay or Welcome, yet very full } was down within 4 Miles of the River's Mouth, and from off the high Land could fee the other Side of the Wellmne, all was full from Side to Sid:-. § At 1 1 ji. M. I went up the River in the Boat with 3 Indi- ans to make what Difcovery I could, Jtdy 22, 1742. Little Winds with fome Showers of Rain. At 6 J. M. hung our fpare Sails to Air : At 8 Ditto got up our Top Gallant Yards ; Ditto got up all the Chefts and Hammocks, and clean'd the Gun Deck, the Ice continues very Thick in the River as flir as we can fee above and below, driving in and out from the iVellcome, July 23, 1742. Moderate Gales and Hazy, with Showers of fmall Rain. The River is fuller of Ice than it has been yet ; no venturing with the Boat in the River to go downwards. July 24, 1742. Frefli Gales, with much Rain. At 6 A, M. I returned with the Boat, the River being full of Ice, with the Northern Indians, having been 25 Leagues or better up the River ; and feeing many large § Moor a third time contradi^ed. or after the le People s. At 4 the Boat, liver and ng Tides s dear in yet very s Mouth, er Side of § Atii 1 3 Indi- ain» At Ditto got p all the in Deck, as flir as and out s of fmall has been /er to go J.M. I 1 of Ice, Leagues ly large or on board his Majejlfs ShipTxxxn^iCCy ^c. jj Whales of the Whale-bone Kind, finding deep Water all the Way, no Ground 67 Fathom •, I found feveral Iflands in the Middle, with 30 Fauioni Water clofe along Side of themf : I faw a Fall or a Frefli on the Welt Side of them -, I went to the Top of the higheft Mountain I could fee, and faw a very high mountainous Land on both Sides of the River away to Weftward. July 2 s^ 1742. Little Winds and Hazy. Ditto found the Stock of our bed Bower Anchor broke by the Ice grounding upon it in 4 Fathom Water, the fame Anchor that was broke in the Arm before, fo being quite Ufelefa fent it on Board the Tender. At 10 A. M. I went down the River with the 8 oar'd Boat, and the Mailer, to obferve if the Ice was any clearer below in the ff^ellcome, and if we could get out before the Spring Tides put in, and if I could find any Cove or Harbour at the Entrance of the River for the Ships. Ditto got one of the Difcoverfs Anchors for our Ufc, which was very much bent at Cbttrcbill, July 26, 1742. Moderate Gales and Hazy. At 6 A. M. ftock'd the Anchor we mention'd before, 7 Hundred -^ Weight : The River continued very full of Ice, as far ■as we can fee. The Longitude of this Savage Bay, where we now lye from the Meridian of London Sp'' 28' Weft J and to the Eaftward of Churcbill River is 38^^ 00' Eaft, the Variation of the Compafs by Obfervation 35° 00' Weft j Latitude of the Entrance of this River IVager 6^° 23' North; the Entrance of Deer Sound, Latitude 65" 50' North ; Courfe by Compafs from Savage Bay up to the faid Sound is N. by W. Diftance 24 Miles. ■J- Here is no mention made of Mr. Dohhs^s fpacious Straits lead - ding away to the S. W. yet this is the Place from whence they were feen by the Lieutenant in his additional Account, p. 62, 63, Remarks. Moderate I i i f if I 1 ■•■ iiiT I 111 ' ii ^ IMAGE EVALUATION TEST TARGET (MT-3) 1.0 I.I 1.25 1^ 1^ 2.2 |4S ■ 50 m m u ■ 40 1.4 2.0 1.6 6" 'W4 vl ^^ w /A — — -/^ ^ 7 Photographic Sciences Corporation «v ne driving, the River :s. Now )art, little ) the new noor. inmoorM,' g^inftthe s, and the •breaft of ih@ on board his Majeftys Ship Furnace, c^r. 8x the lower Iflands, the Tender in Company ; a very ftrong Tide fets us at the rate of 5 Milei an Hour. At 12 Ditto, the River's Mouth bore N. W. by w' Four Leagues Ditto, fell in with a Ledge of Ice J got in our Boats. B'ttto^ Soundings 30 to 36 Fa- thorns. The Eaftmoft Land on. the North Side m Sight N. N. E. 6 Leagues. Neareft ditto N. N. W. 4 or 5 Leagues. The Entrance of the River N. W. by. W. 5 or 6 Leagues. Cape "Oohhs^ W. S. W. 9 Leagues. Sounded from 20 fo 47 Fal thorns, t We fevcral times tried the Tides, and find the Flood to comfc from E. and E. by N. near the Middle of the Straits i and an E. Moon makes full Sea, or high Water, as well as in the River's Mouth, working to the Eallward to meet the Flood. The Straits is about 13 Leagues from Sidfc to Side, mto^ fnwfeverai Ledges of Ice, but none 6f them in our Way. -%»/? 5» 1742- Moderate Gales and fair Weather. At 4 />. M. Tack't. Soundings from 34 to 40 Fathom. At 6 Ditto^ the Northernmoft Point on the North Shore m Sight, bore N. E. by E. diftance 9 Leagues. At 8 Ditto, the Eafternmoft Point of the &juroad. The Tide runs very ftrong with Eddies and l/Vhirlings. The Ship will hardly fteer. l| The Flood comes from the E. by N. by Compais. In the Channel tolerable good Soundings. Juguft 6^ 1742. Moderate Gales and hazy. Lay too from 12 .'till I. Try'd the Tide, found the Flood to come from E, by S. Sounded 45 Fathoms. The End !or Point of the Beach, S. S. E. diftance 4 or 5 Miles. At 4 paft 2 P.M. I went with our fix-oar'd Boat on Shore, to try what time of the Tide it was ; found it had cbb*d 2 Foot, and the Flood came from the Eaftward. At 3 they made a Signal for the Boat, and I returned a- board. At 4, made Saif the \ North Land on the North Shore in Sight N. 4:W. the Eaftcrnmoft on the Eaft ditto^ E. N. E. At ' 6 ditto^ tack'd, (landing a-crofs the Channel ; founded ^44 to 48 Fathoms ftony Ground; the high Land .in Sight, joining to the low Beach, S. by W. diftance 6 Leagues. Cape Hope N. by E. 4- E. «^ diftance 5 Leagues, working to Windward amongft ' ioofe. Ice, founded from 48 to 32. At 12 ditto^ ' Cape Hope, bore N. W. by W. amongft much Ice *, very often oWig'd to tack for it, founding from 32 to 08 Fathom. This Cape Hope, or head Land, on the Weft or North Shore, bore from us N. W. by W, the Land drawing away from the Eaft - by N. to the N. by W. making 8 Points of the Compafs Difference, gave us great Joy in hopes of {{ Mr. Dobbs\ S. W. Tide Is ngnin contradidled. its 1 of US IS a Beach, the gh Moun- 9 Leagues .ddies and rhe Flood . In the from 12 to come The End e 4 or 5 ■ fix-oar'd ie it was ; lame from il for the \t Saif the :N.4:W. . E. At ; founded igh Land I. by W. E. -5* E. I amongfl: : 12 ditto^ mch Ice 5 ; from 32 ad Land, s N. W. the Eaft ts of the i hopes of ted. US on Board his Majeflfs Ship Furnace, ire. if its being the extream Point of America 5 this w«' nam d the Cape Hope, We work'd up round mucb ftragghng Ice all Night 5 in the Morning when the bun cleared up the Haze, to our great Difappoint- ment, we faw the Land low, quite round the lower Beach, round to the Wcftward of the North, and" makes a deep Bay ; and our Hopes of a Paflage that way was all over. But to make fure, we kept on our Courfe to the Cod of it, until 2 P. M, that we could not go above 6 or 8 Miles farther that Way, we tried the Tide, and found none at all. Here I muft remark the Lieutenant's Contra- diition ; he fays m my Journal as in others : Lay too from I a to I for fhe Tender. Try'd the Tide, found the Floodto come from the E. by S. founded 45 fathom. The End or Point of the Beach, bore S.S. E. diftance 4 or 5 Miles, At 4^ paft « F. M, I went with our fix-oar'd Boat on ? u ^' J^ ^^ ^*^^^ '^'"^*^ ®f ^^^ Tide it was ; found tt had ebb'd two Foot ; the Flood came from thq Eaftward. At 3 made a Signal for the Boat, and I returned on Board. At 4 made Sail. Here is a manifcft Contradidion. for it could not ebb and flow at the lame Time. tru?"r " {i^^o^on^er the Lieutenant ftould miftike jLbb for Flood, when he is fo miftaken in Point ot Time, as to put down his Obfcrvations at th« tarthermoit Part that he was at up Wa^er RiveP 5 Daysbefore he got thither, as may be fecn by the Tranfaftion m his Journal of July 24. by comparing It with his and the Matter's joint Repeit. X. i, 1742. in his Appendix to thefe Sheets. Howev^s^' tho he IS miftaken in point of Time, the Tran- faaion confirms his firft Report to be genuine, tho' m this different from the fceond Report to Mr.DoHs: ?uZ^ '' ,".? ^P^^^*'"' S'^»t to the Southward of the W. or W. S. W. or more fourherly by Conw pals i nor any Flood Tide comma fr^m f k* w xt ^ » • W. or 84 Remarkable Obfirvations, 6cc. ' W. or W. S. W. but at that time he had not the Advantage of Mr. Dobbins Inftrudions. jiugufty, 1742. Little Winds, and fair Weather. Sounded 70 Fathom. At 2 P. M. tackM in the Cod pf the Bay. It bore N. by W. diftance 3 Leagues. A-crofs from Side to Side» 6 or 7 Leagues very high Land. At 4 dit:oy Cape Hope bore S. W. by Compafs, di- ftanr7 or 8 Leagues, founded 74 Fathoms. Sailing among the ftraggling Ice,, founded 78 to 105 Fa- thoms.' At 4 ^. M. Cape Hope bore N. N. E. di- ftance 5 Leagues in S5 Fathoms Water. At 5 ditto tack'd for the Tender, faw very much Ice to the Eaftward of us. At 8 tack'd ,Cape Hope bore N. by W. i W. DiftanCe 6 Leagues, the low Beach S. W. Diftance 4 or 5 Leagues in s^ Fathoms Water. At 10 ditto the Captain went aftiore to try if he could find where the Flood came from, he had the Car- penter, Gunner iind Clerk with him. At 11 lay too for the Boat, in firft Reef, both Topfails. yingufi 8, 1742. Moderate Gales and fair Weather, lying too for the Boat up, S. off S. W. At 12 P. M, made fail and ftood in. At 3 ditto Cape Hope bore N. ^ E. diftance 6 Leagues. The low Beach S. W. 4 W. the Middle of the Frozen Straits E. S. E. diftance 3 Leagues, founded from 33 to 27 Fathoms •, frefh Gales and Cloudy ftanding in for the Boat, founded 60 Fadioms. At 6 ditto tack'd. At ^ p^ft 6 lay too. At 8 Cape Hope N. 4- E. the Low Beach 01: Point W. S. W. Diftance 4 or 5 I,eagues. At 4. paft 9 the Captain came on board with the Boat con- tinued lying too, freih Gales and hazy with much Ice all round us. He gives an Account that lie was 15 Miles in. Land with the Gunner, Carpenter, Clerk I — 1 1 on board his Maje/lfs Ship'^ntn^LCCy ^r. Bf and Indian with him, went over high Mountains until he came to the fartheft that over-looked the Frozen Straiis and the Eaft Bay, on the other Side, and could fee the PaflTage where the Flood came in. The nearcft Part of this Strait is 4 or 5 Leagues and 5, 6 or 7 Leagues in the broadeft, many large and fmall Iflands in the faid Strairs, almoft full in Length about 16 or 18 Leagues it ftretches S, E. round to S. and to the Weftward they could fee the faid Straits from the Beginning to the Ending, all full of Ice not yet broke up, all fail to both Shores and the fmall Iflands. They law high Land about 15 or 20 Leagues to the Southward of where they ftood, he took it to run towards Cape Comfort that BoileU nam'd, the farthefl: he went. And the Bay be- tween this and my LovA JVcrpn's Portland, that Fox named is Part of Iludfon\ North Bay about N. W. from Walfingham. Our Loogitudc made with Fox and BQxlett. As this laft-mentioned Bay and Strait is all full of faft Ice, and not likely to be thawed this Year, and if cleared niufl: be fo very late, that there will be no Time to make any Difcovery : So it was refolved in Council to try the other Side of the Welcome from CapeDo/'^j ,to Brook Cobham, if we might happily find an Open- ing there, and then return to England. At 2 J. M. bore away, fired a Gun for the Tender. At 3 diUo founded ^5 Fathoms diltant from the Beach one Mile, Cape Hope bore N. E. by N. Diftance 6 Leagues, the Beach- Point S. E. by E. Di- ftance 9 Miles, frcih Gales and hazy. At i paft 9 diiio lay too for the Tender, much Ice on the Weft Shore near 4- over. At 12 up S. by W. off S. W. by W. the ncartft Diftance from the North Shore 8 or 9 Leagues, founded ^^ Fathoms. 15 ill — 1 Juguji 8t too unci S ,^; I ,K ^P ^- f^ ""^ '^- °'^ E- ^y ^- folded 35 to 3^ Fathomj At 2 ^. M. up e' by N. off e! ^.\A KJ-i', ' *"" ""^y w-'h 'he 6 oared ^^ZiT^ ^f""" '° "■y ""= 'fi''" 'here and the two Indiat^s with me. At 4 dilto made fail work, ing towards the Ifland. Sounded 43 to 50 F. homsl k i, .J^'V"*?'' '° ^ f °^ " white hardMarbSn'e by W. and S. E. by E. by Compaft about 7 LcaRuei »n Length and 3 broad. ' •^"^.ues ^"guji 13. 1742. 'I rift W,^ t in'''/"^. '^'^ Weather, working up ,0- ward5 the inand. founded 23 to ,5 Fathoms.'^ At Wat?; Afe X? ^ "^''"'/ounded .5 Fa.hom, ftn,if i. A^ . ^''"""'^ '^*'"'' "ni<= w with our tt TMr/^".'''n '" ^'^ ^"'•'^'"^ Water to ftop the Tide for the Boat ; the Difeoven by us fired a Gun every half Hour for the Biat. At . AM I r^rned on board with the Boat , I had not .tevetwo Hour Time aftore that I could neither fee high nor l^'Sll7l°'''i^ fr^"^ Water upfn te ,h,m A n ^'^'"' •\'^''"" '^^'"' ""J Deer, and brought ft^r in rh,° r *' mT -^^ 5 ^. iJ/. Vent the Ma- tter in the fix-oar'd Boat afliore for Water em, ployed in clean ns the Gun Deck A, k^Z / Signal for the Boat ^ °" "'="'* ? This tontradift J,;, W. N, \y, Tide a. ^™.{ GW.„. on boar/i his Majejlfs SfjipVwxiiQc, ire. 8p ■%■»/' 14. 1742- Moderate Gales and variable. At 4 P M. the Boat returned with Water. At 5 dUlo km her for I^Tw • l'?"'" fi"-*^'' » Gun for the Boat cver» ^!^Tc *^l"^ '"^^V ^' ^ ^- ^- 1«= '•""nied:. At 4 d<«tf fent her away for more , and the two Nor- thern Indians with the fmall Boat we had fi«ra thk S'^T'.ln Sf "' ^'""''^"^ *""■■ 'hem to 8« Jrotn the f.»d Ifland to their own Country or to the Main Land the firft fine Weather, loaded with Powder, Shot, Hatchets, Tobacco and fome thing of every thing ^he Captain had of Toys and Provifions f* The firft Part little Winds and variable. At 4, P. M weighed and made Signal for the Boat, dill, foitie fmall Ram j at 7 the Boat returned with Water A«<. got the Water and Boat in at 8, dillo bore awa^ for E^h«d. At ,0 ditto the Body oi Bnok Cobbain bore N. E. and by N. Dift,-.nce 15 or ,6 Mil« founded 55 Fathoms, the Middle and Latter Pari tre(h Gales with hazy and much Rain, founded 60 to 70 Fathoms. At 10 A M. in firll Reef of both Topfails. At Noon founded 75 Fathoms when the Boat returned as above, they gave an Account that flo^d W. or W. by N. Moon makes High Water and flows about 22 Foot on the higheft Tides by the Marks on the Shore. Left the 2 Northern In- dians on the in.ind o( Brook Cobham to make the bell of their Way the firlt Opportunity with the fmall Bo.it we gave them ; the Indian that was Linguift defired to fee £-rj/W with us, came off in the Boat ' i (90) The Affidavit of Okiiial^ SatchelL I Ijondon ) to wit, I ^(^hMy 1744^ OBediah Satcbell of the Parifh of St. Mary Overy^ in the Borough of Soutbwark in ihe County (ASurry^ Manner, Maketh Oath, that he was one of the Mariners be- longing to his Majcfty's Ship the Furnace^ under the Command of Capt. Chrippher Middleton, when fent out to difcover a Pafiage to the Wcllern Jmerican Ocean by Hudfon's Bay ; that he made the faid Voyage under, and returned to England with the faid Captain, as far as the Deponent can judge by his the faid Captain's Behaviour, did not neglcdl or conceal the Difcovery of a Pafiage as aforefaid, but that he ufcd his utmoft Endeavours to difcover fuch Pafiage. This Deponent farther maketh Oath, that he had rt, '-» H'h m 92 Satchell's Affidavits and the Captain asked this Deponent whether it was Flood or Ebb ? and he the Deponent anfwered it was Flood; upon which Anfwer, the Captain again alkcd the Deponent how he knew ? and the Depo- nent reply'd, the Boat had been grounded fore and aft, and was then, or would be afloat by the time he got to her, he being then about a 4 of a Mile diftant, which when he this Deponent and the Captain got to the Boat proved true, and by the Ice which was grounded, we found it had flowed about 4 Foot, and had 12 Foot to flow, which was confirmed by obferving with a Pole and a Level i confequently the Tide there flowed 16 Foot. This Deponent farther maketh Oath, that the Cap. tain flood on the Gang- way to talk to the Lieutenant, and that he heard the faid Captain, when in the Boat, wilh the Lieutenant miglit obferve his Order, or he would be drawn into the Opening by the Tide of Ebb (fince called the Frozen Straits). ^ Farther this Deponent maketh Oath, that he was m the Boat when the Lieutenant went on Shore at Brook Cobhaniy and that having landed the faid Of- ficer 5 this Deponent with the reft of the Boat's Crew went in purfuit of a Bear in the Water about half a Mile diftant to the Weft ward of the Cove, which Bear was killed by one of the Indians, and we took it in tow, but had much ado to pull up again to the Cove, the Tide of Flood coming fo ftrong from the Eaftward between the main Ifland and the fmall Ifland which lies off the Mo«th of tlie Cove. Far- ther this Deponent on his Oath fliyeth, that the Lieu- tenant, to the beft of his Remembrance, was not much above one Hour on Shore, and that it was between 6 or 7 o'clock in the Evening when they went in purfuit of the faid Bear, and that Alexander Morrifin^ upon their Return, when they had got clofe to the Siwre jumped over board to afiiit in getting the Bear into er it was ed ic was in again e Depo* fore and the time ■ a Mile : Captain ;e which 1 4 Foot, rmed by ently the the Cap- :utenant, he Boar, rder, or Tide of Satckelh Affidavit. pj into the Boat, and was to the beft of this Deponent's Remembrance, the only Man who was up to his "Waift in the Water, and might have been in a few Steps more (as this Deponent believes) over his Head, as the Rocks were almoft ftcep too. This Depo- nent farther maketh Oath, that he well remembers that Capt. Middleton pulled out his Watch when we landed at Cape Frigid^ and faid it was eleven o'Clock, as alfo when he came down to the Boat the fame Day at the fame Cape, and faid it was half an Hour paft four. Sworn at Grocers - Hall, JLoodon, the i^th of May, 1744, before me Robert Westlky, Mayor, Ohediab SatML I! ; c he was Shore at aid Of- *s Crew It half a , which ^e took 1 to the rom the e fmall Far- e Lieu- >t much )etween I'ent in ^orrifon^ to the he Bear into x.. 1 1 N, B. Their * *\ Ik I: M ■ M A Their Lprdfliips of the Admiralty havinfl favoured me with Leave to take a Copy ofMr.Moo^s. Jog^oal, I find fuch DifTerencc between it and hk firft Mate's (though theTranfiftions of the one were ffl/'r 'I'l'''^''^ ^' '^^y ^^^ both acknow- ledged) that I have thence very juft Ground to ap- prehend the Journal now in the Office not to be ge- nuine ; and if their Lordfhfps would be fo favourable to cut through this Gordion Knot of Iniquity, by their Order, to flop the faid Moor's Pay till he pro- duces his Ortiinal Journal in the Hand Writing of isrance Grant which is mentioned in the Appendix of my Vindication, p, 146 ; for if one Forgery is proved, it muft put an End to all future Alterca- tions, as well as convince the World what Credit ought to be given to my Antagonift and his Wit- iiciies. 4 i ERRATA. If IK • ' having r,Moor'%, and hi^ )ne w^rc Lcknow- to ap- >be ge- ourable ity, by he pro- iting of spendix •gcry is Uterca- Crcdit is Wit- 4 In the Vindication. « IpAge 24, line 14, for tke/e three hundred, read this hundred. M^ P. 29, 1. 31, for about 8 and 9, read between 8 and 9. ^43» 1- 3«» fo«" Hudfon\ Straits, read Hudfon\ Bay. P. 43, J. 37, fof ^^r«^,^.^. p g/j 28 L V^$' for /'^^r.,. V^r^«rf.. P. 84 1 , c L nb * °' I»ferrences, read The fa^e p.ge an^d 1^: fo^i^rrr^ "^.^r" iOr »*, read KA : P 88 l ^ r ^^'^ t^egree , r. so ]. ig ft,- r '^ ^' '• 7» ioY except, read ^^a*-/? P «/ i -^ iOT Lanpua^e read //r**.,^^ rp,^ '/ *^'V'*^"' *• 92, 1. 20, f;. p. 97, 1. 7, for W^^;efd W^%';^/^'^;^7^ .*• J» tot Roguery, read Romerv P f^» i r , ,' ^» ^HivWing. The fame mir?n^ r r' "/'* ^°'' "^^^^ «ad ■128 I iA /"V jP P ^"^ ^'"^' for/;^^, read/^«> p I fi f 1' Z^' ^'' '^^^ '^^^' ^"d for ^is, read //.^/; P ,, 1 29, 1. 19, >• ;w^/^^ ,> read P , 2n I ,r r z * * \\ L\ ^''«'^«-''^» read .^. Lieutenant^Tat' I' ?1* I. 32, for about 3 .r 4, read above 3 .;- 4. p ' f' , ,' 'f ' E^dtavous, read Endeavours. P i:^; 1 5'- t^' .35. for yew t'r^w^. r. l&o, I. 12, iox Furnace vt^^A nr J 2c fnr^^/ 7* tor the Journal, read his Journal. P 9, '•25, tor after, read before P t-, .v. *u t 1 , * • •51, the Bo„o^; ™/t;:.t>t:s'' '■ '• '"^. V ^m^^l^ A N read M).^ \ib^i ALPHABETICAL INDEX ACCUSATlOm, dif- ferent Heads, page 7. jfUan (Mr.) empbyed to find Capt. Middletan, p. 9. .45»/tt/*r to the Colle6Hon of Water fallacious, p. 34. Appeal to Journials, &c. , P- 35. Jfttempt on Mailer Wilfin^ p. 39- 4ffertm of J^^^ ^x^z/rr, p. 56. Account^ ridiculous, of Hitd- foH*&'Straits, p. 67. Ajfertion demonitratcd fdlfe, p. 80, 81. Accsuttt, additional, from the Lieutenant, p. 86. Affidavit of Gwy, Ap. p. 30, - 3^ 32» 33» 34» inclufive. Affidavit of Obediah Satchel^ in the Appendix, p. go. Blunders of Mr. ^ar^, p. 123. C. •.c^ Bribery^ p. 14. -Btftf/j of the Efquimaux In- dians, p. 21. i5^<7y?f of IVygate and 7^^»i«- y^», p. 98, 99. Coa/i fearched, a$ rcfotvvd m Council, p. n. Concealments not candid, »• 20. . Corruptiony a near Re^m- hlance of, p. 40. Council Evidence pj^^ t})^ jBtb of Aug. p.4r. " ._Yl,. Contradi^ion, p. 59^ Cr«tf/(y of C. M. anfwered, p. 60, 61, Concealment unfair, p. 105. ContradiSfion in Lieutenant's Reports, Ap. p. 19, 21, 23,24,26,27. ^ v' i)* (Mr.) TeeW Capi. -/l^^-!3?/rffla*sAcquain(aece, . , P' ^» 9» P^ft of 10 iock- five. iPfl^j (Mr.) hi». ChataiStcr nf "-HV 5^ T xiti^ji{va iur C ^. p. 16. . t 11 I If ^v ream INDEX. Dream of Mr. DobU^^: J4. * Difidvery^xi'ittod p. aa. Draught; the Gunner al- lowi double Paflage for Whales and Tides, p. 48. Debbs (Mr.) writes upon Hearfav, p. 49. *-*^ ^uil^ of an unfair In- •fertion} p.'5i, lie con- founds Hearfay and Ob- fcr^'ation, p. 52. He lays great Strefe on a Particle, ib. He is not a ^o6d Pi- lot for Hudfonh-Ray^ 58. Dtfmgenuity of Mr. Dobhs^ , p. 64, 65.. Ditbbs (Mr.J a little hifto- ricaf, p. 82. Di^denceoi the Lieutenant in his own Judgment, p. 89. Dtbbi (Mr.) Difingpnuityin beginning his Jprintcd Log, P' 95- n the Brackiflinefs of the Water at Wager ^W p. 120. — to crpffing ditto, ib, F. ^(Mr.Vwho, p. 29/- Faas^ a plain Narrative of, /•^/yaff^Aecf, p.8i. " Foundation of Mr. Debb^t Proofs, p. 83. Table, p. 84. ^ Falfityi glaring, advanced by Mr. Meor,p, 119, 120. Gi .-v t'lMft |-\; E. 'BfquimaUx Indians never lofe Sight of Land, p. 21. Ellis (Mr.) falfly quoted, p. 30. Evafim Jefuitical, p. 53. Evidence of WygaU and ' Thompfoni hearfay, p. 55, Evafim, a mean one, p. 84. *^ Earnejbiefs of Mr. Z)«33x •^ for the Difcoverj, p. 97. cviama or ivir, iwi;{;r as to Gunner contradidb what ht hadfigncd, p. 48. his Draught in favour oiQ.M. ib. Goods firft difcovered at the Orkneys, p. 78. the Quantity, p. 79. -'■ ■ ■- ■: './ • ■ '-xy H. Hudfen*& - Bay Company would prevent a Difcovery, P- 53- L ■.\ Itsconfijlency of Mr. Dobhs, P- 27* » Indiijiry t N D E X*. 'Induflry of Thompfon and Zi«i/w. p. 16. Mr. Searks^ March 30, 1744, Ap. p. 17. Mr. Aver/ s, April 20, 1744, 4>. p. 18. — from Donalfon, &c, Ap. p. 42. Lendrick (Mr.) a Friend to Mr. Dobbs, his Charaaer, p. 15. Letter from him and Mr. Gill, p. 16. — from ditto material, " M. p. 17. /fi'//'r from^A-AT the Gunner, Modejiy, remarkable of Mr. ' P* ^^* Thompfon, T[t.2Q'. Licuteywnt ccntradids his Miue^ Copper, whence the Evidence, p. 19. Story, p. 30. Logg-book,]Q\\xv\-!ih^ (:fe. ap- ^ the Report of the V. 0^kd ta, p. 35. Indians, ib. . A^tbU i INDEX .^y p- ^»t^s. p. 87. ^f^«(Capt.) threatened ^yfrygatt and r/^^w*^, p. 99. ^"^ ^J*r contradiaed by the A;/wr/Vtf« Indians, where fettled, p. 27, 28. iV^rrtf« with ditto, how iPi^ p. 28. opining nm Whale C^ove ^ ^ ^;jW« Me, p. ,0. C7rw«, Weftern Amrican, diftaiit Irom Iiudfm\- Bay 4 or 500 Leagues, P« 20. Optnings^ none, p. 39. P. ^'•{/J, an Error of the p. 19. rrocedun in the Vovace rarttculars from the Jour- _ naJs, ^c. p. 43. /'<7rj««y^;)> propofcd by Mr. Dohh, p. 8j. bable, p. 86. Q. ^icrUs anfwered by DwnU fon, &c. 4. p. 43 tp inclufive. -— anfwered by CareWy 4*. p. 52 to 64 inclufive. R. 4\ Reafons for believing Mr. Smith S^tm. Agent for Mr. Dobbsy p. 13. Rxlationty former, contra- dittcd, p. 20. ' ^<;ptfr/,Licutenant*s, altcr'd P- 31- ' of Nortdn falfe, p. „37- T -K^/>tfr/j of the Lieutenant, 3, ^/. p. 19 to p. 23, incluf. Ji^ort of ditto, joined with the Mafter, Jp. p. 2, 25, — -— Lieutenant's, in Mr, Dobbs's Remarks, p. 138.' Ap' p. 26, 27, " Price\ Ap-. p. 28. Bentley\ Jp, p. 29, "T— ^«'/.?r's, Jp. p. 25. J<-cport^Dewildes's,Ap. p,36, 37' 38, 39, 40, 41, inrliMn/p ■i^i IN D EX. * ■*.•.• Smith, Samuel, hij Propofel to C. M. p. IT, " StiMitf oi the Lieutenant, Surgdon, , and Qerfc, p. 17. 5/»vri^f frozen afferted to be real, ib. Ship*s Crew in a mifcrablc condition, ib. Ship has no EfFe8»7 T^mperhtg #lth Witrte'ffinj/* p. 99. Acknowledged, in fome meafurc, by Mr. Dobbsy p. 100. Tideo( PTood from the Eift*^ ward, p. 101. q »"^.t from the W<«t'? 'J M.„- "f'Vy