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Mr. Speaker — The Bill before the House i« nnp nf .v, much as i. „„. „„„ eo™ J :;;" : L?;r:r' '"'""'- '""• bu. because i. involve, a p.neipie of cl a ^eflr r.' must have very impor.au, beari„„ „„ „,„ "'J"'"' f™f^ ^h.eh faure relations ,oward,E„g,a„.f wi „ r.r T ," '"' any of i,s details, but eoL™ mysl whh ' b •'°"° 1""" proposes to organize and keep un i!'!, f , ™"^ """ " aforee of 50,00 .en, withlr:: aU::^';:?'? .bat torce withar^s, eio.hin, and ammunition, arZe::.^:.^:!: ^.uou:r:en:ra:=--ot:^^ r notrifd— r *!!-: -r ■» - -;::~ and others that no proper estimate of the expense has been given^ and that the 1- venue of the eounfry cannot stand the additional burden intended to be imposed. But tliough I feel the full force of the objections which, in a financial point of view, may be urged against our undertaking so comprehiuisive and large a measure, there are other considerations of a higher and paramount nature whicli impel us at the present time to place the defensive power of the country on the most efficient footing. The question of Colonial Defence is one which has lately attracted much attention both here and in England, and I am glad that my Hon. friend the Minister of Finance took occasion to refer to it in conclud- ing the "speech which he has just made. The views which a certain class of persons in England entertain with reference to it are no doubt calculated in themselves to throw some discouragement on our eflbrts, placing, as they do, the continuance of the connec- tion between the mother country and the Colonies solely on the footing of pecuniary interest ; but I think the present a fitting opportunity of shewing that those persons— I can hardly call them a party— do not represent English public opinion, aad that they have no elTect in influencing the policy by which the responsible Ministers of the Crown are row or are ever likely hereafter to be guided. It is a fitting occasion also for demonstrating what the real feeling of Canada is— of shewing that we understand our position as Colonists, forming an integral portion of the British Empire, that we are alive to the dangers to which we are exposed and that while we will assume our just share of the burden of defence— we expect and will rely on the performance by England of the duty which she owes to us. (Hear, hear). I wish also to point out the great misapprehension which apparently exists at home as to the extent of the burden to which we are supposed, of late years, to have subjected England ; to shew how insignificant in amount it ordinarily is, and how much Canada has all this time been 890557 to doing .or herself. I do this not in a captious spirit of rccrimi- nation, but with the sincere and single minded desire of making our relative positions understood, that each country may be stimulated by seeing the willing co-operation of the other, and Its readiness to assume a just proportion of the common duty of preserving the integrity of the Empire. * We know, Sir, that we are called on to arm not on account of any danger likely to arise from our own Policy or quarrels ;— It is from the consequence of Imperial Policy that our danger springs- a Policy which we have no share in directing. But the risk is incident to our position. We accept it because we value too highly the blessing of living under the British Crown-the privi- leges which, as British subjects, we enjoy ; we prize our constitu- tional liberty too much-our attachment to the Throne and Institu- tions of England are too deep rooted to make us willing topurchase immunity from this danger, at the price of separation. (Hear, hear) I beheve that the Crown of England, the government and the great body of the people of England appreciate such feelings, and that they have as little sympathy as we have with those who talk of abandoning their Colonies, simply because they happen to be a source of danger or a source of expense. So long as we do not find the views of the class I speak of directing the policy of England, we are not justified in allowing their mere opinions to influence our conduct or make us lukewarm in the work of pro- viding for the future defence of our soil. That party seems to forget that the acquision of dominion, whether by conquest or treaty, entails the obligation of protection ; they look only on their Colonies as an article out of which money is to be made ;_and that when they cease to be profitable, when they cost more than they can get, in return out of them, they are to be at liberty tOabandon us ! fhl»v nnnoiHo-fhaf 4- J • -1 . '-' — -^ — "-'"c. mat lu lucrcusc m material prosperity IS the first and only duty of a state ; and that any thing which does 4 not contribute to amassing wealth is to be neglected, even if invol- ving a disregard of the obligations of good faith and national honor. Practical as the present age is, I do not believe that abstract calculations of profit or loss will ever be the i^sue by Which the retention or abandonment of British dominion will be determined. Mr. Goldwin Smith, the most advanced champion of the Anti Colonial party tells us it is true " that the interest of Canada, as wel as of England, is on the side of Separate Government. That we gam nothing by the present system, but the payment by England of our Naval and Military Defences, which as it leads us to neglect the duty of self defence, we will in the end " find no gain, but a heavy loss." He tells us that " timely sepa- " ration is good for both parties, and especially so for the Colonists " and speaks of our future destiny " ,/e.e will only go forward like ' men to meet it, instead of clinging like frightened children to the ^'skirts of the old world- He asks "if we hope that England " will always go on paying for our Army and Navy," and tells us that " to hope, this hope is too much from the sufferance even of the English people." Mr. Smith is a man of no ordinary power of mind, and one whose gifts should have placed him above the level of those whose views are swayed by the mere pmctical instincts of com- merczal advantage. Are great national questions to be tried by the mere test of the balance sheet > Does he care nothing for the power and greatness of England-nothing for the dishonor which would attach to the throne by throwing off loyal and devoted subjects or what is the same, leaving them unprotected, because the res- ponsibility incident to the acquisition of dominion cannot be borne Without expense } Does history furnish any instance of the kind ? It has taken centuries to consolidate this mighty Empire ; will the 'en if invoj- id national •elieve that le issue by ion will be f the Anti I^anada, as )vernment. 2 payment ^liich as it in the end fiely sepa- /oloiiists," mard like iren to the England and tells nee even and one of those ' of corn- ed by the (le power 3h would subjects, 5 the res- be borne le kind ? will the people of England consent to its dismemberment so long as a ^dhng allegiance is given to a common Sovereign, and so long as her subjects in her outlying dominions are ready to assume the burden., which the privileges of freedom entail? We do not ment the taunt of clinging to the skirts of the old world, as I shall presently show when I come to speak of what the hardy and ener- getic settlers of the country have done to reclaim it from the wil- demess despite the rigours of our northern climate, and the matenal obstacles they have had to overcome. If there is one quality above another to which they can with truth lay claim, it IS aelf-rehance and independence. It is satisfactory to pass from such theories of philosophers and political economists to the practical views expressed by those who are responsible for their opinions as directing the national policy. Any one who reads the evidence given by the Duke of Newcastle, Lord Grey, Mr. Elliott or Mr. Merivale before the recent Committee of the House of Commons, must rise from the perusal of it, with the conviction that the interests and defence of the Colonial Empire will not be disregarded. Nothing can be more just or more statesmanlike, than the footing on which they put our mutual relations. I think it of so much im- portance that there should be no misconception on this Head, that the zeal and readiness which this Country has always shewn to assume its fair share of the burden should not be checked, especially at the present critical juncture of our history, that I must trespass on the time of the house by quoting one or two passages expressive of their views. (Hear Hear.) J begin with Lord Grey, because it was he who originated the system of Withdrawing troops and of imposing on the Colonies a greater share of the duty of providing for their own internal tranquillity But he was most careful in carrying this system into effect to guard agamst any possible misapprehension on our part of his motives In an elaborate despatch to Lord Elgin, dated in Marel, 1851, he says : regarding Canada as a most important and valuable part of the En^pire, and believing the maintenanee of the eonneetion between the Mother Country and the Colony to be of the highest advantage to both it is far from being the view of ff er Majesty's Government that ti,e general power of the Empire is not to be used m the protection of this part of Her Majesty's Dominions." In speakmg of the reduction of the Military Force he says- "Her II Majesty's Government are the more induced to adopt this view ol the subject because they are prepared to recommend to Parlia- ment that assistance of the same kind tcith that which has proved ' so eminently useful to Canada as the comfruction of the St " Lawrence Canals shonld be extended to her in respect of another 'pubhctvork calculated to be hardly less beneficial to' her than these Canals. In another despatch I will explain to your Lord- " ship the views of Her Majesty's Government with regard to the " means by which it is hoped that the construction of the Quebec II and Halifax Railwafj may be accomplished. I only advert to " this subject at present for the purpose of observing that while the 'I credit of this country is exerted to enable Canada to extend her ' pubhc works and to dcvelope her resources I feel confident that II the Parliament of Canada will readily co-operate with Her Majesty's Government in adopting measures for diminishing " the charge on the British Treasury for tlie defence of the pro- " vince." We thus sec, Mr. Speaker, that it was intended to accompany this diminution of force by the adoption of measures which would relieve us from the danger incident to our isolated position and place us at all seasons of the year within reach of England Indeed Lord Grey distinctly says in his work on Colonial Policy • '^'^ The call upon Canada to take upon herself a larger share than heretofore of the charges incurred on her account was intended ell, 1831, he Liable part of i connection fthe highest T Majesty's is not to be >ominions." iays : " Her )t this view / to Parlia- has proved of the St. of another her than your Lord- ?ard to the he Quebec r advert to : while the extend her fident that with Her minishing ' the pro- jcompany es which 1 position England. 1 Policy : lare than intended " to bo coupled with an application to Parliament not only io pro- " vide for the salary of the Governor General but also to give the " assistance of th.; credit of the British Treasury towards the exe- " cution of the projected ine of Railway for connecting the British " Provinces of North -America." Passing now to the general (luestion of the Colonial relation, the views of Lord Grey are no less satisfactory. They are so apposite that at the risk of presuming more on the forbearance of the hous(! than I could wish I must quote them : ^^ " I consider then, says he, that the British Colonial Empire " ought to be maintained, principally because I do not consider " that the nation would be justified in throwing off the responsibi- " lity it has incurred by ihc acquisition of this dominion, and be- " cause I believe that much of the power and innuence of this " country depends upon its having large colonial possessions " in different parts of the world. •< The possession of a number of steady and faithful allies, in II various quarters of the Globe, will surely be admitted to Idd " greatly to the strength of any nation, while no alliance between " independent states can be so close and intimate as th(^ connec- " tion which unites the Colonies to the United Kingdom as parts of II the Great British Empire. Nor u ^-ht it to be forgotten that the " power of a nation does not depend merely on the amount of " physical force it can command, but rests, in no small degree, " upon opinion and moral influence ; in this respect British power "would be diminished by the loss of our Colonies, to a degree " which it would be difficult to estimate ; hence if it is an advan- "tage, not for the sake of domineering over other countries but « with a view to our own security, to form port of a powerful "nation rather then of a weak one (and considering the many " examples we have seen of the injustice to which weak ones are " compelled to submit, this can hardly admit of a question), it 8 uincnm and aislant portions nfili#. ii.-»- i i-. ii t\ ■ ■ . i">iuu« oi ino tontish Emu re sn tho» tzon, must be regarded as an object of extreme im. . ««or a .» „„ dou,.. of fnr g,oa,or („,,,„„„„,,, !,„„ ,„ „,„ „3 nr .,„, Crown, all „,„ ^,„,i,y „„,, „„,„y^„^,i„„ ., :::7 -" '"^""'"' -^ »"- -^ "- — vo..'m .a,. <„ z " No foreign ,,„„„ ,„„,„^^ ,__ _^^^__^|^ mmion,, ,1 e nat.on has .ncurred a responsibilhy of llio highest ^ , . -.C, , i..„, „, ,,„„^ ,„ ,,,„^ „^ Tl„, author, ,f.t Bm 1. c,o„n . a. .hi., „„,„,o,„ ,h„ „,„„ p,,,^,,, j^^,^;'^" under providence, of maintaining peaee and order in ,^ ^y extensive regions of the earth, and thereby assists in 7m -ongstmiiii r,he hutuan »ee the' ^eT, JoftZ .antty and c.vtiization. Supposing it ,vere clear (which I a™ fo from ad„,.„„g, .ha. a reduction of our nation'a, otit 'jor all the >irc, 8() that mon j)rotec- iportance to i:ie8 ; to the the former, and weak ance to the lich belonsr ti5s in the '■ with the lim, to the trading or fa British liificulties, «d, on the servants, ipiic. ' of con- 'iew only y under- Mial Do- c highest ity of the Irument, n many diffusing •f ehris- I am far Judiiure " (otherwise impracticable,) to fho extent of a few hundred " thousands a year, could be effected by withdrawing our autho- " rity and protection from our numi^rous colonies, should we be "justified, for the sake of such a saving, in taking this stej), and " thus abandoning the duty which seems to have been cast " upon us? •'•••«» • " To say nothing of highc- motives, and of the duty which I " conceive to be no less obligatory upon nations than upon indi- " viduals, of using the power and the advantages entrusted to " them by providence to advance the welfare of mankind, I would " ask whether,*even in mere mon(>y, there would not be some thing « to set off against the saving of expense from the abandonment " of our colonies? On the other side of the account we have to put " the destruction of British property which would thus be occa- " sioned, and the annihilation of lucrative branches of our " commerce, by allowing anarchy and bloodshed to arrest the " peaceful industry which now creates the means of paying for " the British goods consumed daily in larger quantities, by the " numerous and various populations now emerging from bar- " barism under our pmtection." " It is true there are several of our colonies to which the lar" ^'^* observations do not directly apply; but the policy of abandoning " a part of our colonial empire could scarcely be adopted, without " giving so great a shock to the feeling of confidence and security " in the remainder, :.s greatly to increase the difficulty of main- " taining it ; and I must add, that it appears to me very doubtful " whether even the colonies most capable of governing them- " selves, and which have no uncivilized tribes to deal with, from " whom any danger could be apprehended, would not for some " time have mimh fjinip,iltTT in ,o^;-t^:-:__ •! -• - -i..i.i,.,i!j, .a liictinu-itmny ihuir present state oi " tranquility and security, both externally and internally, if their 10 ;' connecion .,u, ,h„ „„.,,„^ ,„,„,,^ ^^„^ ^^_,^^^__,^ ^.^^^^^^_^_,, romtt v,ews „r ,1,0,0 wl,o wl,l, ,„ Ui™e„,ber ,l,e Bri.i.., Wve h„. ,„„ „„,„ „„^^.„„,_^ „^ ^ ^^^^^^ ^^J ^^^ o as; oo„,.do, „ ,„ ,,,, i, „„, „„,y„j,„„,y ^^,^^^^^^^^ men ad ,vl.o, .,„lo „,„y ,„,„„„ ,„ „,„^^ „,^. , and „d „<.a,., ,nea«,ros ,l,„ a„„,„i„„ of wl.i.l, would Licvitably bnng about lh,s ,.o„,i,.'. (i,,,„,^ |,„„^ j "'^ remarkable language of the Duke of Newea„Ie, in a speoe), dehvered ., Feb„,a,y, ,8a.,-i„ .„„,. he said : " , i, .he dLy •! ml-, ay l,o ,n answer ,o a qneslion of Mr, Ra-buek, " ,l,a, one ^^ o . be d„„es w icl. devolve on ,l,e ,no,l,er Coun,,, is .'be defenee . tJ 7\ ' '"'"'" '"'"«' ^^''=" » • Z"^' ™ -—"• of ,he peeuliar position of Canada, I .hint ^^ the taper,al G„ver„,.en, is bound ,o keep up a eertain amonn, " of w^' 'Vr, ""'""^ ""'" " '"""' '"S" f-- i" ""' -ent " stal Z ,'T '""'" """ ™'"''' '^ "«S'-"™- '^-"''» " avel .\ ""' ''°"''°" ''""' ™^ "'"" Colony we Again, wlten asked whether if in ,i„,e of peaee the anouneemeu. was made ,ha. every ..nperial soldier ^as .o te for e or ,o ofler a eontribution to tnaintain Intperial Troops he -Pl- : " , ,hi„k i. „igh. pr„,„eej„,, .bis differenee- L , disf5olved<" my dissent tlie British •ssible not to and unwise tod by one eflectualiy •n in Parlia- dherci^ce to e direction, inevitably quote the a speech the duty of sion at all fe in 1861 : "that one be defence )ny would lot protect la, I think in amount the event Canada ^lony we peace the ivas to 1)6 ger local ■oops, he 3— /Aa/ it " would cause the whole Volunteer Spirit to cease — that they *' would contribute nothing to maintain an Imperial Force — but " he adds : I have no doubt that the Colony would make very " great exertions in time of actual danger. 1 have no doubt that " so long as the Imperial Government sheivs a disposition to *' support them in time of peace and to prevent war^ that they would " in time of war behave generously and properly towards supporting " the Imperial Government in their own defence and in maintaining " the general interest of the Empire.^'' It ought certainly to be assuring to ihe ^^eople of the country to know that their position and feelings w. .a so well rmderstood, and I venture, Mr. Speaker, to say that he has not overestimated the generous and patriotic co-operation which England would receive at our hands in case of need. (Hear, hear.) There is no sacrifice, I believe. Sir, to which the people of Canada are not prepared to submit, if they are appreciated and met in this generous spirit. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Gladstone, it is true, speaks of the English Colonial system " as a novel invention of which, up to the present time, England " is the Patentee, and that no one has shewn a disposition to " evade the patent." He says, " that the Colonies should be made primarily responsible for their own defence,^^ and when asked what he means by that expression, he says, " it is best " exemplified by the state of opinion and feeling that prevailed " among the old American Colonies." But does he consider that their defence was an easy matter— ours a most difficult— that they had no foreign enemy to fear but France ; while our danger springs from a country conterminous for thousand of miles with our own, — inhabited by a most powerful and warlike people numbering 30 millions ; abounding in extraordinary resources and whose facilities of communications enable them at any time to collect masses of Troops on our very borders. — The illustration 1« fail, entirdy, because >l,e conditio,, a„d ,l,e circumslanee, of Ite . iwo are entirely different. VVc know ,l,at be the cause of rnpture will, Americawha.it may,_„,e horror., of war will be „t onr doors, ,ha. whatever the .3sue, we mu.,. be the snfferer.,, and can by no possibility be garners. We know also from ..perience that ^Canada m'; L e no concern or interest in the quarrel except as an integral portion us. What rnercs. had we in Ruatan.> What in the Oregon of S.r' .wT "• '"^ """"^"' '>"°'"°" ■ ^'•^' « "■= •''a'Td of St. Juan? What .„ European interference in Mexico? What save .ndced as British subjects, interested in the honor of ou^ flag, ,.uhc Trent affair? And yet, Sir, with all .his before us wwl no, exchange our position, nor seek to escape from the' •se nous consequences which our relations wi.h England mav ena, up„„„, ^his common danger ought .o „ni.e'„: cZ ogCher, no. merely from consKlerations of mutual interest, but from generous sympathies that spring from mutual self devotion and generous sacrifice. (Hear, hear.) ' I may be permitted in concluding my observations on .his tead, to quote from a speech of Lord Palmerston in .he debate on Army Estimates in 1835 : fo t e benefit of a country to possess Colonics-whether i. is ^ bette she should confine herself ,c commerce and irnprove- ™ents a home, or form settle.nents abroad; bu. .here can be nod^b, „s .o .he course which ought .„ be pursued by a «b „7,o r't r'' " '" '•°^'^'''™ -^" Colonies as beiong „ England. As far as civiliza.ion extends in .he world— from the n.oc=t n-r'hr— • * • * "«.nnfK« " " n..ruieni point in America, to the southernmost extremity of Asia-the formation of British IS istances of the nerica what it whatever the possibility be tela may have itegral portion t of search to 1 the Oregon in the Island ixico? What, honor of our is before us, ape from the ngland may te us closer interest, but !lf devotion, ons on this le debate on low far it is 'hether it is d improve- ere can be rsued by a olonies as ids in the la, to the of British " settlements and the accumulation of British wealtii, is to be " found. To abandon possessions gained at the cost of so much " blood and treasure— many of thorn important outposts for the " protection of our commerce, and the security of our dominion, " would be a violation of public faith, and a forfeiture of national " honour." Having thus, Mr. Speaker, as I trust, shewn that the States- men of England do not look on our future destiny with indiffer- ence, I wish to make a few observations on the general complaint touching the amount of Imperial expenditure on our defence, and also to shew that we have not only faithfully implemented, in spirit and in letter, the compact made in terms of Lord Grey's despatch, but have entirely relieved the mother country from providing in any way for our internal tranquillity. It is necessary to dissociate Canada from the case of other co- lonies, and what do we find : that in ordinary times she has since been garrisoned but by two regiments— one of which is the the Canadian Rifies. The gross expenditure on all British Ame- rica is under £400,000 per annum. One half at least of this is chargeable to the Lower Provinces, of New Brunswick, New- foundland and Nova Scotia, in which is the great arsenal of Halifax— maintained for Imperial purposes. Of the £200,000 expended in Canada £170,000 represents the ordinary pay, rations and clotlung of the troops, who are maintained here more cheaply than they could be in England. The only items really and specially chargeable against us are the items of transport and the charges for barracks and fortifications. Dividing these in the same proportion they will be found to l)e under je30,000 a year. Well might the Duke of Newcastle say, as he did in his evidence before this Committee, that it is extremely difficult to argue these question on principles of business, that " it is a very small ground 14 ''(( H to fajtc— and that it is but a flea bite to the Imperial government:^ But, Sir, when Canada was promised Imperial aid (when the Military Force was reduced,) towards giving her Railway com- .munication with England through British Territory, and although that aid has not been given, has she not faithfully relieved the mother country from the duties she was asked to assume ? We organized a most efficient Volunteer Force, clothed, armed and drilled them ; this force has since performed the duty of aiding the civil power on all occasions of popular disturbance. They have become a most efficient and available body, even for purposes of war and ready for active service. We have adopted measures for the protection of all the fisheries in the gulph and on the coasts, so that the services of no British ship of war have ever been called in requisition. We have maintained the Ordnance Canals at a heavy annual loss to ourselves ; we have built and maintained light-houses at remote and almost inac- cessible points, at a very heavy outlay, and which are free to the shipping of all nations ; we have devoted all our resources to the construction of works of internal communication, which would greatly facilitate the defence of the colony in case of aggression. Sir, we have been acting the part of a nation rather than of a colony. We have not been clinging helplessly to the skirts, nor relying on the aid of the old world. By our interprise and energy we have developed the resources of this country with a rapidity to which the history of few colonies affords any parallel. (Hear, liear.) True we have not as yet, because it has been unnecessary, withdrawn the great mass of our people from the pursuits of industry to train them to the art of war, but when danger threatened, was any backwardness evinced — or was an uncertain sound heard in any village, town or hamlet from Gasp^ to Lake fill v\<-k iiperior ? 15 overnment.y I (when the lihvay com- nd althougli relieved the ssume ? We armed and ty of aiding ince. They r, even for ave adopted ! gulph and :)fwar have ntained the j; we have Imost inac- i free to the urces to the hich would aggression, r than of a ! skirts, nor and energy !i a rapidity el (Hear, nnecessary, pursuits of ben danger n uncertain ip6 to Lake The case of Canada has unfortunately been mixed up with all the other Colonics, and fortified posiiion.s, some of which from their circumstances can do little for themselves, and tlie British ratepayer is told that he is heavely taxed for Colonial Defence. The expenditure on Hong Kong lor instance is taken ; that is not a Colony, but a station maintained for imperial purposes only— So is Malta with its three garrisons and score of men of war. Mauritius is necessary for the naval supremacy of England in those seas, and a military force is necessary in Western Australia because England choses to send her convicts there. There is a great fallacy in generalising on the subject of colonial military expenditure ; but no one who investigates the subject can deny that the force maintained in times of peace in Canada has of late been reduced to the minimum. I have dwelt, Mr. Speaker, perhaps longer on this subject than there was any occasion for so doing ; but before I le&ve it, let me in conclusion advert to one fact which should conterbalance any unfavourable impression that may have been produced in Canada by the discussion of these theories, a fact to which I also alluded in a former debate. When the risk of collision with the United States was recently apprehended— was there any hesitancy on the part of the British Government in despatching troops to our reliei ? and in what spirit was their promptitude met by the Country 1 Was there a voice raised in Parliament to censure them either for their policy, or for the expense they had incurred in these measures of precau- tion ? NcTcr was such unanimity shown in supporting a Government Seldom such gratifying mention of the conduct of any Colonist as that in which our readiness to stand by the fortunes and throne of Englatid was spoken of ! ! (Hear, hear !) There were no doctiinaries then to raised their voice against the precautionary measurto the Government had taken— none to recommend that we should be left to ourselves ;— and so depend upon it, it will 16 ever be when actual danger arise. I cannot help quoting here as illustrative of this, a passage which one might consider almost inspired from Mr. Merivale's admirable work. Speaking of the motives of abstract practical philosophy as influencing the retention of colonial dominion, he says : " The sense of national '' honor-the pride of blood-the tenacious spirit of such defence- » the sympathies of kindred communities-the instincts of a " dominant race-the vague but generous desire to spread our "civilization and religion over the world; these are impulses " which the student in his closet may disregard, but the statesman " dares not, for they will assuredly prevail as they often have " prevailed before, and silence mere utilitarian argument when- " ever a crisis call them forth:'' A crisis lately did call them forth, and well and generously was it met. (Hear, hear.) Having thus, as I trust, shewn that we need have no appre- hension that the future will find England less ready than the past to defend us; does this Bill provide the means of placing the whole defensive power of Canada in a condition to be available to co-operate with her when occasion shall arise ? I think, Sir we should not be fulfilling our duty if we were to stop short of that. We do not want our yeomanry to be perfect in the graces of military exercise and drill ; but we want such an organisation of the whole adult population as that the State can avail itself of their services on the shortest notice. I have heard it urged by many, for whose opinions I have great respect that we ought rather to have a perfect small force than an irregular large one, and that it would even be better to make a money contribution to keep a certain number of i:nperial troops in the Colony. I differ entirely from this view. It is of the first importance, I think, to make our whole population loting here, ht consider Speaking uencing the of national h defence — tincts of a spread our e impulses ^ statesman often have merit when- 'rously v/as i no appre- m the past lacing the i available think, Sir, stop short jerfect in t such an the State otice. I 3 I have nail force be better umber of bis view, opulation 17 self roliant, to instil into ihom the notion that we must defend ourselves, and to accustom them to the use of arm.s. We do not want even a .Mnall force in time of peace,— we want the whole population in time of war. I trust we may for many years, and for ever, live in pcact; and amity with the United States, but we cannot disguise from ourselves that irrespective of the dangers that exist in the present unsettled condition of that country, there are at all limes peculiar elements of danger in the American population which tli(< government, however pacific, (tannot always control. I am no alarmist, Mr. Speaker, but it is impossible for any man to peruse the correspondence which took place last year between the American Government and those of England and France without rising from it with the conviction that we escaped war on many occasions almost by a nu'racle ; and that many of the elements of danger yet remain, any one of which may involve the two countries iu a controversy which can be settled by the arbitrament of tlie sword alone. The surest way to avert war is to be prepar(.'d to resist attack. For the defence of such a Country as this dependence must mainly be placed on the people themselves. Suppose England could ihrow in 50 or 75,000 regular soldiers, they could not protect the whole of our frontier. Besides irregular troops who know the roads, are accustomed to the woods, are far better adapted for defensive work in Canada than regulars are. They want but organisation— a moderate proficiency in the use of arms, to be accustomed to move in bodies together, and to have the habit of discipline. Under this Bill we shall liave 50,000 efficient men within a few months, with a reserve of 50,000 more, and in case of war a third levy will give us, with very short preparation, a defen- sive force of 150,000 men. I do not wish to commit myself to the details of the Bill, but I fully approve of the general plan. I feel, however, that the expense which must accompany this, will 18 be a severe pressure on llie people, bul it is like paying so much for insurance against invasion. Our v(>ry existence as a people is involved. A week's occupation of any one of oiu- cities by a hostile force woultl entail far heavier burdens to make it good than till- maintenance of onr Militia Bill. We have two great advantages in Canada over the Americans ; we have dnlled Officers ready to instruct our men, and in whoin ihey have confidence • and our people eminently understand that in which American character fails, the necessity of obedience and submission to discipline To these defects the disasters of the American Army have been in the main attributable. Let it not, however, bo supposed that the amount of appropria- tion, whatever it may be, represents the sacrifices which the people of this country are about to make. We have no rich class no men of leisure here as in England, to whom the work of drilling is a pastime. Every man who gives a day's time here with- draws ;so much from some pursuit which he follows for the main- tenance of his family, and for which the mere pay is no compen- sation whatever. Jt is in fact a contribution of so much of his individual substance to the cause of patriotism, of which the payment by the State, large as it may be, represents but a slight proportion, it is all the more praiseworthy because it does not spring from mere military instinct, nor from any vain love of display. The most superficial observer can see that it is under- taken as a serious business and duty, and springs from the very highest and noblest of motives. Even now, (I speak from per- sonal observation in the city which I represent,) in anticipation of this Bill, we find middle aged men immersed in business giving up hours every day to learn the manual exercise, merchants and professional men standing, side by side, in the same ranks TWltn thpii* atnr/>nnr>Ti anA /•Iprk" • tsr" ti-^A t-^A - i • -'-'-— - • aist. virjh.T , vVv iiiii* ttaucoiiieu, mccaanics and labourers, after toiling all day, assembling in some store or ^\ix ng so much fi people is cities by a Ifi' it good, ^ two great 'led Officers onfidence ; American mission to ican Army appropria- the people 1 class, no of drilling here with- the main- o compen- jch of his which the ut a slight X does not in love of t is under- n the very from per- iticipation business merchants mc ranks Mechanics e store or 19 drill-room at night, devoting the wholi; (nonlng to the hard and imaltractive work of company drill. The sacrifices, both pecuniiiry and personal, which the Volunteers of this country have made are not known as they ought to he. Depend upon it, Mr. Speaker, that such a people cannot be ctmquered ; they may for a time be ovf-rpowered by superior numbers, but they cannot be long held in subjection. If the same feeling c(»ntinues to ani- mate us, with the power of England to back us, and with such a country and such a climate as ours, we need have no fears for the ultimate result against any ei v, however numerous or powerful, which undertakes offensive operations on Canada. My lionorabh' friend, the. Alt >rney General West, in introtlucing this Bill, described it as an Enabling Bill, and that it in no way committed the House; to the whole forcse of 50,000 men. But as I understand the liill, it is adapted both in principle and in the machinery of its details to such an organization. You have divided the Province? into a certain number of Districts, with a certain population to (uich, and propose to raise a certain miinber of men in each. You have adjutants and drill-sergi^ants lor each ; and you may, just as well, even on grounds of economy, call out the whole complement of men, even if you give them fewer days of drill. My honorable friend has said that the number which the Government will call out must depend on the state of the iinances and of the likelihood of danger, and he says the cloud which lately appeared to warn us has passed away. But, Sir, can any man say that it will not re-appear to-ujorrow— or that instead of appearing in the disttmt horizon no bigger than a man's hand to warn us, its approach may be heralded only by the blackness and fury with which it will burst over our heads. (Hear ! Hear !) Depend upon it, great as the linancial responsibility is in assuming this addi- tional charge, far greater is the responsibility of neglecting the warn- 20 ings of the past, ami disn.,^ur(iing,lKM:vents which .re .akinL'plarr on our bordors. If war, with all its horrors, comes on us i.nnrc: pared-if the two loyal and chivalrous races that people Canada, find themselves without <.rqanization_without arms-without drilled instructors-withont learning the rudimems of .eif-de- fence-there will he a lasting and grave responsibility on those whose duty it was to arouse the country from ti,e dangerous sleep of false security into which it had fallen, ' The financial reasons I admit arr. weighty, but l,.-t us see whether some means cannot be devised of lessening their weic^ht I do not fear. Sir, that England will be slow to provide us with arms and equipments, if we go to her in the proper spirit. She has never been ungenerous.-still less unjust to those who espouse her cause. I do not b^'lieve that, except for Provincial Armouries and Drill Gro.mds, the first outlay will cost us any thmg. So large an organization as is proposed need not and o.ight not to be kept up l.mger than the danger which calls it forth shall exist. If the means cannot otherwise be obtained, it is an object for which a loan might fairly be raised, and for such an object we might hope to obtain the credit of the impe- rial Government. Suppose, Sir, we should get, say £700,000 sterling at 3^ per c-ent. that would entail a permanent charge on the country of but £24,500 sterling a year. This sum, with what we now pay, would ami)ly sustain the force for four years after which the danger would either have been met or passed away, and w(^ should be left with a perf.>ct organisation, to keep which up afterwards, a very small annual charge would suffice. This £700,000 would give $70,000 for armories and drill fields, a mil- lion of dollars as an annual grant for the first two years, and $800,000 for the next two. By adding the amount of the present grants, the difference in interest, and the direct return from sub- stitutes and fines, which T estimate at $100,000 only, during the 4 31 years, (and wliicli might be dispensed witli altogether,) you would thus, :is I have shewn, areomplisli the whole object of tlio bill at the eost of £24,600 sterling a y.-ar on posterity, nssniriing that the arms and cquipmenls were given to us. If our revenue was nourishing— if in fact we could aflbrd the first outlay, as well as the annual charge, if might be more satisfactory for us to rely wholly on onr own resources ; but we have had a chronic deficiency for sonic! y(«ars, and I do not see liow we are to inake it good. The ne(;cssiiy for assuming so lar^'e an annual Inuden calls on ns to practise economy in every department of Government. I will not now cuter on that question, but content myself with saying that while I believe the country is prepared to submit to any needful sacrifice for its defence, it will expect the ])iactice of a strict economy in all other branches of the public s(>rvice in order that this the paramount object may be effectually carried out. If it is not to be done efliciently, better not do it at all. I hope the Government w'll also see that whatever is necessary in a military point of view in the way of fortifications and Lake defence is provided for. The joint commissior now sitting will doubtless make proper suggestions on that head, and it would be both premature and improper to discuss now in what respect or where we arc vulnerable. If this country places its whole popu- lation in an organized condition at the disposal of England for purposes of defence, there is a corresponding duty of no ordinary magnitude and gravity devolved on her. Indeed Mr. Gladstone was pointedly asked by the Committee on Colonial Military Ex- penditure the question, and his answer is eminently satisfactory. When questioned whether on the supposition that it was possible for troops to be raised in the colonies sufficient for their defence, acording to the judgment of the colonists as to their requirements, he would contemplate when necessary a contri- u tMiou by England i„u rd« tlio inuintoiianco o| iheae troop«, he wyJies : " [ do not l(K)U with so mii- 1, „nxu.'ty to the qucatiou of "the uwjor*nt of contribution as I do lo thi; transfer of respon- " sibility :_ihat is what I really desire. I tl.i.di that if the colonists "andeoionial government, so far as it is really eolonial, had the "primary responsibility m/jw^- upon them, no difficulty would " occur betwvrii the colonies and lliis country ujion a mne question of " amount:' I trust tlu-relore, Sir, that thoiigji \\ e ourselves assume thepriniary obligation towards our own Militia, llie question of contribution, by England, may form the subjeei of negotiation between the two Governmenis, and 1 feel assured that England will not be insensibl(- \^^ any just elaims we may have upon her. In eonneclion wilh !li,. Mibjeot of fortiiicuiions and the defence of the Lakes, I .should \>v. wanting in duty if I omitted to refer lo the fact that this question has recently engaged the attention of the Government and L(«gislalure of the Inited States. A .special committee of congress, wliicb was nam(Hl, has recently made its report, and that report contains matter of the deepest interest and concern to Canada. They n^eonunend tl,c erection of shore fortifications at various commanding positions— the immediate establishment of a national foundry for the manufacture of arms and ordnance at Chicago --three Naval Depots one on Lake OKtarlo— anotlu-r on Lake Erie and tmotlier on Lake Michi- gan. They throw out the hint that tjie treaty of 1817, which limits the naval lurce lo be maintained on the lakes, may have no application to Lake Michigan as being entirely with..^ t>ie> own territory— an. I tliat they may therefore build and arm ships at Chicago. IJy fortifying the Straits of Mackinaw— which is -strongly urged,— they say that the entrance to Lake Michigan is closed. , -i- recommendations are of so remarkable a charac- ter, that i .v., ;i.;,dc,- of them in order that public attention may be dTuwi; .; U-.- questioi' . (( (C « 23 ! tro