key: cord-0897005-j3uw09mx authors: Drwiega, Emily N.; Rodvold, Keith A. title: Authors’ Reply to De Sutter, De Waele, and Vermeulen: “Penetration of Antibacterial Agents into Pulmonary Epithelial Lining Fluid: An Update” date: 2022-01-04 journal: Clin Pharmacokinet DOI: 10.1007/s40262-021-01101-2 sha: e69f7b23c8be71c8707e823b2061f54d52cdd0a5 doc_id: 897005 cord_uid: j3uw09mx nan This sophisticated and potentially complex analysis is being employed by academic, regulatory, and industry investigators to address drug selection and system-specific development issues (e.g., study design, first-in-human dosing, various dosage formulations, drug-drug interactions, and pharmacokinetic variability) in different patient populations even when drug exposure data may be difficult to determine [7, 8] . Several recently published manuscripts have documented the usefulness of PBPK modeling to predict systemic and pulmonary ELF exposure of antibacterial agents, including drugs being repurposed for COVID-19 [9] [10] [11] [12] . When we first started conducting intrapulmonary penetration studies almost 30 years ago, lung tissue homogenates and comparison with concomitant plasma concentrations were still being advocated [13, 14] . Since that time, the paradigm has shifted to measuring specific sites of where bacterial lung infections occur (i.e., extracellular and intracellular drug concentrations), assessing in vivo pharmacodynamics of antibacterial agents in animal infection models, and applying population pharmacokinetic-pharmacodynamic modeling and simulation for developing dosage regimens applicable to both research studies and/or clinical practice [2, 4, 5] . We acknowledge that measuring ELF concentrations and population-pharmacokinetic modeling are not a panacea for understanding intrapulmonary penetration of antibacterial agents and ensuring clinical success for the treatment of bacterial pneumonia. However, this current approach has advanced the importance of drug exposure in the lung and assisted in the dose selection of new (and old) antibacterial agents. There is little doubt that the collection of site concentrations in critically ill patients is challenging and one of the major limitations of why there is limited ELF concentration-time data during drug development programs. Noninvasive techniques would surely improve the opportunities to collect lung concentrations to assist in the optimal design of dosage regimens for the treatment of critically ill patients with hospital-acquired and ventilator-associated bacterial pneumonia. The use of exhaled breath condensate has already been used for non-invasive evaluation of lung diseases [15] . The combination of exhaled breath condensate samples with nanobiosensor sensitive analytical techniques and/or endogenous dilution markers (i.e., urea) should improve quantification issues of antibacterial concentrations [16] [17] [18] . However, further validation of these techniques will be needed and comparison to other sample collection methods of assessing intrapulmonary drug concentrations should be considered. Using real-world exhaled breath condensate concentrations and clinical information to perform PBPK modeling will however be challenging, appealing for critically ill patients during (and after) the drug development program for antibacterial agents. 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