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Bristol, George Digby, Earl of 1641 4666 2 0 0 0 0 0 4 B The rate of 4 defects per 10,000 words puts this text in the B category of texts with fewer than 10 defects per 10,000 words. 2004-09 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2004-09 Aptara Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2004-10 Jonathan Blaney Sampled and proofread 2004-10 Jonathan Blaney Text and markup reviewed and edited 2005-01 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion THE SPEECHES OF THE LORD DIGBY IN THE HIGH Court of Parliament , CONCERNING GRIEVANCES , and the Trienniall PARLIAMENT . Printed for Thomas Walkely , 1641. THE LORD DIGBYES SPEECH , the 9th of Novem. 1640. Mr. Speaker , YOU have received now a solemne accompt from most of the Shires of England , of the severall grievances and oppressions they sustaine , and nothing as yet from Dorset-shire ; Sir , I would not have you thinke that I serve for a Land of Goshen , that we live there in Sunshine , whilest darknes and plagues overspread the rest of the Land : As little would I have you thinke , that being under the same sharpe measure that the rest , we are either insensible and benummed , or that that Shire wanteth a servant to represent its sufferings bouldly . It is true Mr. Speaker , the County of Dorset hath not digested its Complaints into that formall way of Petition , which others ( I see ) have done ; but have intrusted them to my Partners and my delivery of them by word of mouth unto this Honourable house . And there was given uuto us in the County Court , the day of our Election , a short memoriall of the heads of them , which was read in the hearing of the Free-holders there present , who all unanimously with one voyce signified upon each particular , that it was their desire that we should represent them to the Parliament , which with your leave , I shall do , And these they are . 1. The great and intollerable burthen of Ship-money , touching the legality whereof they are unsatisfied . 2. The many great abuses in pressing of Souldiers , and raysing Moneys concerning the Same . 3. The multitude of Monopolies . 4. The new Canon , and the Oath to be taken by Lawyers , Divines , &c. 5. The Oath required to be taken by Church Officers to present according to Articles new and unusuall . Besides this , there was likewise presented to us by a very considerable part of the Clergie of that County a note of remembrance containing these two particulars . First , the imposition of a new Oath required to be taken by all Ministers and others , which they conceive to be illegall , and such as they cannot take with a good Conscience . Secondly , the requiring of a pretended Benevolence , but in effect a Subsidy , under the penalty of Suspension , Excommunication , and Deprivation , all benefit of appeale excluded . This is all we had particularly in Charge : But that I may not appeare a remisse servant of my Countrey , and of this House ; give me leave to adde somwhat of my own Sense . Truly Mr. Speaker , the injurious sufferings of some worthy members of this House , since the dissolution of the two last Parliaments , are so fresh in my memory , that I was resolved not to open my Mouth , in any businesse wherein freedome and plaine dealing were requisite , untill such time , as the breach of our priviledges were vindicated , and the safety of speech setled . But since such excellent Members of our House thought fit the other day to lay aside that Caution , and to discharge their soules so freely in the way of zeale to his Majesties service , and their Countries good : I shall interpret that confidence of theirs for a lucky Omen to this Parliament , and with your permission licence my thoughts too , a little . Mr. Speaker , under those heads which I proposed to you , as the grievances of Dorset-shire , I suppose are comprised the greatest part of the mischiefs which have of late yeers layed battery either to our Estates , or Consciences . Sir , I doe not conceive this the fit season to search and ventilate particulars , yet I professe I cannot forbeare to adde somwhat , to what was said the last day by a learned Gentleman of the long Robe , concerning the acts of that reverend new Synod , made of an old Convocation . Doth not every Parliament mans heart rise to see the Prelats thus usurpe to themselves the Grand Preeminence of Parliament ? The granting of Subsidies , and that under so preposterous a name as of a Benevolence , for that which is a Malevolence indeed ; A Malevolence I am confident in those that granted it , against Parliaments : and a Malevolence surely in those that refuse it , against those that granted it : for how can it incite lesse ? when they see wrested from them what they are not willing to part with , under no lesse a penalty then the losse both of Heaven and Earth : of Heaven , by Excommunication ; and of the Earth by Deprivation ; and this without Redemption by appeale . What good Christian can think with patience on such an insnaring Oath , as that which is by the new Canons enjoyned to be taken by all Ministers , Lawyers , Physicians , and Graduates in the Universities ? where , besides the swearing such an impertinence , as that things necessary to salvation are contained in Discipline ; besides the swearing those to be of Divine right , which amongst the learned , never pretended to it , as the Arch things in our Hierarchy . Besides , the swearing not to consent to the change of that , which the State may upon great reason think fit to alter ; Besides the bottomlesse perjury of an &c. Besides all this Mr. Speaker , men must sweare that they sweare freely and voluntarily what they are compelled unto ; and lastly , that they sweare that Oath in the literall sence , wherof no two of the makers themselves , that I have heard of , could ever agree in the understanding . In a word , Mr. Speaker , to tell you my opinion of this Oath , it is a Covenant against the King , for Bishops and the Hierarchie ; as the Scottish Covenants is against them , only so much worse then the Scottish , as they admit not of the Supremacy in Ecclesiasticall Affaires , and we are sworne unto it . Now Mr. Speaker , for those particular heads of grievances whereby our estates and properties are so radically invaded ; I suppose , ( as I said before ) that it is no season now to enter into a strict discussion of them ; only thus much I shall say of them , with application to the Countrey for which I serve , that none can more justly complaine , since none can more justly challenge exemption from such burthens then Dorset-shire ; whether you consider it is a Countrey subsisting much by Trade ; or as none of the most populous ; or as exposed as much as any to forraigne Invasion . But alasse Mr. Speaker , particular lamentations are hardly distinguishable in universall groanes . Mr. Speaker , it hath bin a Metaphor frequent in Parliament , and if my memory faile me not , was made use of in the Lord Keepers Speech at the opening of the last , that what money Kings raised from their Subjects , they were but as vapours drawne up from the Earth by the Sunne , to be distilled upon it againe in fructifying showers : The Comparison Mr. Speaker , hath held of late yeares in this Kingdome too unluckily : what hath bin raysed from the Subject by those violent attractions , hath bin formed , it is true , into Clouds , but how ? to darken the Sunnes own lustre , and hath fallen againe upon the Land only in Haylstones and Milldews , to batter and prostrate still more and more our liberties , to blast and wither our affections ; had not the later of these bin still kept alive by our Kings owne personall vertues , which will ever preserve him in spight of ill Counsellors , a sacred object , both of our admiration and loves . Mr. Speaker , It hath bin often said in this House , and I think can never be too often repeated , That the Kings of England can doe no wrong ; but though they could Mr. Speaker , yet Princes have no part in the ill of those actions which their Judges assure them to be Just , their Counsellors that they are Prudent , and their Divines that they are Conscientious . This Consideration Mr. Speaker , leadeth me to that which is more necessary farre , at this season , then any farther laying open of our miseries , that is , the way to the remedy , by seeking to remove from our Soveraigne , such unjust Judges , such pernitious Counsellours , and such disconscient Divines , as have of late yeares , by their wicked practises , provoked aspersions upon the government of the gratiousest and best of Kings . Mr. Speaker , let me not be misunderstood , I levell at no man with a forelayd designe ▪ let the faults and those well proved lead us to the men : It is the only true Parliamentary method , and the only fit one to incline our Soveraigne . For it can no more consist with a gracious and righteous Prince to expose his servants upon irregular prejudices ; then with a wise Prince to withhold Malefactors how great soever from the Course of orderly Justice . Let me acquaint you Mr. Speaker , with an Aphorisme in Hippocrates , no lesse Authentick ( I think ) in the Body politike , then in the naturall . This it is Mr. Speaker , Bodyes to be throughly and effectually purged must have their humours first made fluid and moveaable . The Humours that I understand to have caused all the desperate maladies of this Nation , are the ill Ministers . To purge them away cleerly , they must be first loosened , unsetled , and extenuated , which can no way be effected with a gracious Master , but by truly representing them unworthy of his protection . And this leadeth me to my motion , which is , that a select Comittee may be appointed to draw out of all that hath bin here represented , such a Remonstrance as may be a faithfull and lively representation unto his Majestie of the deplorable estate of this his Kingdome , and such as may happily point out unto his cleere and excellent judgement , the pernitious Authors of it . And that this Remonstrance being drawn , we may with all speed repayre to the Lords , and desire them to joyn with us in it ; And this is my humble motion . THE LORD DIGBYES SPEECH IN THE HOVSE OF Commons , to the Bill for trienniall PARLIAMENTS . Jan. 19. 1640. Mr. Speaker , I Rise not now with an intent to speake to the frame and structure of this Bill , nor much by way of answer to objections that may be made ; I hope there will bee no occasion of that , but that we shall concurre all unanimously in what concerneth all so universally . Only Sir , by way of preparation , to the end that we may not be discouraged in this great worke by difficulties that may appeare in the way of it , I shall deliver unto you my apprehensions in generall of the vast importance and necessity that wee should goe thorow with it . The Result of my sence is in short this . That unlesse for the frequent convening of Parliaments there be some such Course setled , as may not be eluded ; neither the people can be prosperous and secure , nor the King himselfe solidly happy . I take this to be the Vnum necessarium : Let us procure this , and all our other desires will effect themselves : if this Bill miscarry , I shall have left me no publique hopes , and once past , I shall bee freed of all publique feares . The Essentialnes Sir of frequent Parliaments to the happinesse of this Kingdome , might be inferr'd unto you , by the reason of contraries , from the wofull experience which former times have had of the mischievous effects of any long intermission of them ? But Mr. Speaker , why should we clime higher then the levell wee are on , or thinke further then our owne Horizon , or have recourse for examples in this businesse , to any other promptuary then our owne memories ; nay then the experience almost of the youngest heere ? The reflection backward on the distractions of former times upon intermission of Parliament , and the consideration forward of the mischiefes likely still to grow from the same cause if not removed , doubtlesly gave first life and being to those two dormant Statutes of Edward the 3d , for the yearly holding of Parliament : And shall not the fresh and bleeding experience in the present age of miseries from the same spring , not to be paralleld in any other , obtaine a wakening , resurrection for them ? The Intestine distempers Sir , of former ages upon the want of Parliaments , may appeare to have had some other cooperative causes , as somtimes , unsuccessefull Warres abroad ; somtimes , the absence of the Prince ; somtimes , Competitions of Titles to the Crown ; somtimes , perhaps the vices of the King himselfe . But let us but consider the posture , the aspect of this state , both toward it selfe , and the rest of the world , the person of our Soveraigne , and the nature of our sufferings ▪ since the third of his Reigne . And there can be no cause colourably inventable , wherunto to attribute them , but the intermission , or which is worse , the undue frustration of Parliament , by the unlucky use , if not abuse of Prerogative in the dissolving them . Take into your view Gentlemen , a State in a state of the greatest quiet and security that can be fancyed , not only injoying the calmest peace it selfe , but to improve and secure its happy condition , all the rest of the world at the same time in Tempest , in Combustions , in uncomposable Warres . Take into your view Sir , a King Soveraigne to three Kingdomes , by a Concentring of all the Royall lynes in his Person , as undisputably as any Mathematicall ones in Euclide . A King firme and knowing in his Religion , eminent in vertue ; A King that had in his own time given all the Rights and Liberties of his Subjects a more cleare and ample confirmation freely and gratiously , then any of his Predecessors ( when the people had them at advantage ) extortedly , I mean in the Petition of Right . This is one Mappe of England , Mr Speaker , A man Sir , that should present unto you now , a Kingdome , groaning under that supreme Law , which Salus populi periclitata would enact . The liberty , the property of the Subject fundamentally subverted , ravisht away by the violence of a pretended necessity ; a triple Crown shaking with distempers ; men of the best Conscience ready to fly into the wildernesse for Religion . Would not one sweare that this were the Antipodes to the other ; and yet let me tell you Mr. Speaker , this is a Mappe of England too , and both at the same time true . As it cannot be denyed Mr. Speaker , that since the Conquest there hath not bin in this Kingdome a fuller concurrence of all circumstances in the former Caracter , to have made a Kingdome happy , then for these 12 yeares last past ; so it is most certaine , that there hath not bin in all that deduction of ages , such a Conspiracie , if one may so say of all the Elements of mischiefe in the second Caracter , to bring a flourishing Kingdome if it were possible , to swift ruine and desolation . I will be bold to say , Mr. Speaker , and I thanke God , we have so good a King , under whom we may speak boldly of the abuse of his power by ill Ministers , without reflexion upon his person . That an Accumulation of all the publique Grievances since Magna Carta , one upon another , unto that houre in which the Petition of Right past into an Act of Parliament , would not amount to so oppressive ; I am sure not to so destructive a height and magnitude to the rights and property of the Subject , as one branch of our beslaving since the Petition of Right . The branch I meane is the judgement concerning Ship-money . This being a true representation of England in both aspects . Let him Mr. Speaker , that for the unmatcht oppression and enthralling of free Subjects in a time of the best Kings raigne , and in memory of the best Laws enacting in favour of Subjects liberty , can find a truer Cause then the ruptures and intermission of Parliaments . Let him , and him alone be against the setling of this inevitable way for the frequent holding of them . 'T is true Sir , wicked Ministers have bin the proximate causes of our miseries , but the want of Parliaments the primary , the efficient Cause . Ill Ministers have made ill times , but that Sir , hath made ill Ministers . I have read among the Laws of the Athenians , a forme of recourse in their Oaths and vows of greatest and most publique concernment to a three-fold Deity , Supplicum Exauditori , Purgatori , Malorum depulsori . I doubt not but we here assembled for the Common-wealth in this Parliament , shall meet with all these Attributes in our Soveraigne . I make no question , but he will gratiously heare our Supplications . Purge away our Grievances , and expell Malefactors , that is , remove ill Ministers , and put good in their places . No lesse can be expected from his wisdome and goodnesse . But let me tell you Mr. Speaker , if we partake not of one Attribute more in him ; if we addresse not our selves unto that , I meane Bonorum Conservatori ; we can have no solid , no durable Comfort in all the rest . Let his Majesty heare our Complaint never so Compassionatly . Let him purge away our Grievances never so efficaciously . Let him punish and dispell ill Ministers never so exemplarily . Let him make choyce of good ones never so exactly . If there be not a way settled to preserve and keep them good ; the mischiefes and they will all grow againe like Sampsons Locks , and pull down the House upon our heads . Beleeve it Mr. Speaker , they will . It hath bin a Maxime among the wisest Legislators , that whosoever meanes to settle good Laws , must proceed in them , with a sinister opinion of all Mankind ; and suppose that whosoever is not wicked , it is for want only of the opportunity . It is that opportunity of being ill Mr. Speaker , that we must take away , if ever we meane to be happy , which can never be done , but by the frequencie of Parliaments . No State can wisely be confident of any publique Ministers continuing good , longer then the Rod is over him . Let me appeale to all those that were present in this House at the agitation of the Petition of Right . And let them tell themselves truly , of whose promotion to the management of affaires doe they think the generality would at that time have had better hopes then of Mr. Noy , and Sir Thomas Wentworth , both having bin at that time , and in that businesse as I have heard , most keen and active Patriots , and the later of them to the eternall aggravation of his Infamous treachery to the Common-wealth be it spoken , the first mover , and insiister to have this clause added to the Petition of Right , that for the comfort and safety of his Subjects , his Majestie would be pleased to declare his will and pleasure , that all his Ministers should serve him according to the Laws and Statutes of the Realme . And yet Mr. Speaker , to whom now can all the inundations upon our liberties under pretence of Law , and the late shipwrack at once of all our propertie , be attributed more then to Noy , and those , and all other mischiefes whereby this Monarchy hath bin brought almost to the brinke of destruction , so much to any as to that Grand Apostate to the Common-wealth , the now Lievtenant of Ireland ? The first I hope God hath forgiven in the other world ; and the later must not hope to be pardoned it in this , till he be dispatcht to the other . Let every man but consider those men as once they were . The excellent Law for the security of the Subject enacted immediatly before their coming to imployment , in the contriving wherof themselves were principall Actors . The goodnesse and vertue of the King they served , and yet the high and publique oppressions that in his time they have wrought . And surely there is no man but will conclude with me , that as the deficience of Parliament hath bin the Causa Causarum of all the mischiefes and distempers of the present times : so the frequencie of them is the sole Catholique Antidote that can preserve and secure the future from the like . Mr. Speaker , let me yet draw my Discourse a little nearer to his Majesty himselfe , and tell you , that the frequencie of Parliament is most essentially necessary to the power , the security , the glory of the King . There are two wayes Mr. Speaker , of powerfull Rule , either by Feare , or Love , but one of happy and safe Rule , that is , by Love , that firmissimum Imperium quo obedientes gaudent . To which Camillus advised the Romans . Let a Prince consider what it is that moves a people principally to affection , and dearnesse , towards their Soveraigne , He shall see that there needs no other Artifice in it , then to let them injoy unmolestedly , what belongs unto them of right ; If that have bin invaded and violated in any kind , whereby affections are alienated , the next consideration for a wise Prince that would be happy , is how to regaine them , to which three things are equally necessary . Renistating them in their former liberty . Revenging them of the Authors of those violations . And secureing them from Apprehensions of the like againe . The first God be thanked , we are in a good way of . The second in warme pursuit of . But the third as essentiall as all the rest , till we be certaine of trienniall Parliament , at the least ; I professe I can have but cold hopes of . I beseech you then Gentlemen , since that security for the future is so necessary to that blessed union of affections , and this Bill so necessary to that security . Let us not be so wanting to our selves ; let us not be so wanting to our Soveraigne , as to forbeare to offer unto him , this powerfull , this everlasting Philter to Charme unto him the hearts of his people , whose vertue can never evaporate . There is no man Mr. Speaker , so secure of anothers friendship , but will thinke frequent intercourse and accesse very requisite to the support , to the Confirmation of it : Especially if ill offices have bin done between them ; if the raysing of jealousies hath bin attempted . There is no Friend but would be impatient to be debarred from giving his Friend succour and reliefe in his necessities . Mr. Speaker , permit me the comparison of great things with little , what friendship , what union can there be so comfortable , so happy , as between a gracious Soveraigne and his people , and what greater misfortune can there be to both , then for them to be kept from intercourse , from the meanes of clearing misunderstandings from interchange of mutuall benefits . The people of England Sir , cannot open their Eares , their Hearts , their Mouthes , nor their Purses , to his Majestie , but in Parliament . We can neither heare him , nor complain , nor acknowledge , nor give , but there . This Bill Sir , is the sole Key that can open the way to a frequencie of those reciprocall endeerments , which must make and perpetuate the happinesse of the King and Kingdome . Let no man object any derogation from the Kings Prerogative by it . We doe but present the Bill , 't is to be made a Law by him , his honour , his power , will be as conspicuous , in commanding at once that Parliament shall assemble every third yeare , as in commanding a Parliament to be called this or that yeare : there is more of Majestie in ordaining primary and universall Causes , then in the actuating particularly of subordinate effects . I doubt not but that glorious King Edward the third , when he made those Laws for the yearly Calling of Parliament , did it with a right sence of his dignity , and honour . The truth is Sir , the Kings of England are never in their glory , in their splendor , in their Majestique Soveraignty , but in Parliaments . Where is the power of imposing Taxes ? Where is the power of restoring from incapacites ? Where is the legislative Authority ? Marry in the King , Mr. Speaker . But how ? in the King circled in , fortified and evirtuated by his Parliament . The King out of Parliament hath a limitted , a circumscribed Jurisdiction . But wayted on by his Parliament , no Monarch of the East is so absolute in dispelling Grievances . Mr. Speaker , in chasing ill Ministers , we doe but dissipate Clouds that may gather againe , but in voting this Bill , we shall contribute , as much as in us lyes to the perpetuating our Sun , our Soveraigne , in his vesticall in his noon day lustre . FINIS .