The visions of the soul, before it comes into the body in several dialogues / written by a member of the Anthenian Society. Dunton, John, 1659-1733. 1692 Approx. 251 KB of XML-encoded text transcribed from 94 1-bit group-IV TIFF page images. Text Creation Partnership, Ann Arbor, MI ; Oxford (UK) : 2003-07 (EEBO-TCP Phase 1). A36909 Wing D2634 ESTC R18582 12396162 ocm 12396162 61174 This keyboarded and encoded edition of the work described above is co-owned by the institutions providing financial support to the Early English Books Online Text Creation Partnership. This Phase I text is available for reuse, according to the terms of Creative Commons 0 1.0 Universal . The text can be copied, modified, distributed and performed, even for commercial purposes, all without asking permission. Early English books online. (EEBO-TCP ; phase 1, no. A36909) Transcribed from: (Early English Books Online ; image set 61174) Images scanned from microfilm: (Early English books, 1641-1700 ; 937:34) The visions of the soul, before it comes into the body in several dialogues / written by a member of the Anthenian Society. Dunton, John, 1659-1733. [8], 151 p. Printed for John Dunton ..., London : 1692. Reproduction of original in Huntington Library. Pages 40-65 from Bodleian Library copy spliced at end. Attributed to John Dunton. cf. Nicholl, A., A history of English drama, 1600-1900, 1961. v. 1, p. 48. Created by converting TCP files to TEI P5 using tcp2tei.xsl, TEI @ Oxford. Re-processed by University of Nebraska-Lincoln and Northwestern, with changes to facilitate morpho-syntactic tagging. Gap elements of known extent have been transformed into placeholder characters or elements to simplify the filling in of gaps by user contributors. 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Copies of the texts have been issued variously as SGML (TCP schema; ASCII text with mnemonic sdata character entities); displayable XML (TCP schema; characters represented either as UTF-8 Unicode or text strings within braces); or lossless XML (TEI P5, characters represented either as UTF-8 Unicode or TEI g elements). Keying and markup guidelines are available at the Text Creation Partnership web site . eng Pre-existence. Soul. 2003-03 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2003-04 Aptara Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2003-05 Rina Kor Sampled and proofread 2003-05 Rina Kor Text and markup reviewed and edited 2003-06 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion THE VISIONS OF THE SOUL , Before it comes into the BODY . In Several DIALOGUES . Written by a MEMBER OF THE Athenian Society . There 's an innumerable Company of Pre-existent Souls ; those that transgress , are sent down into Bodies , so as being purify'd by such Discipline , they may return again to their own Places . Pythagoras . LONDON , Printed for Iohn Dunton , at the Raven in the Poultrey , 1692. The PREFACE to the Reader . THE Occasion of this following Treatise , was the extravagant Doctrine of Pre-existence ; which of laie hath been so warmly manag'd , that it wants but a l●ttle more to be made a 13th . Article in the Creed of some persons . I have pursu'd the humour , but yet as Comoedians do , when they dress up an Ape , to make it appear more ridiculous : The Ingenious will discern it at first sight . To such as enquire the real Design of this Publication , I answer , the graver Conferences carry their meaning in their Frontispiece ; and the more jocose are not without their most solid Morals ; which perhaps may be more taking to some Readers , than if they had appear'd in a common Dress . In the whole Discourse I have advanc'd many things wholly new and unblown upon , more especially in the 14 th . Dialogue , where the Nature , Conceptions , and Actions of unbody'd Spirits are distinctly treated of . If I am ask'd for my Authorities , I answer , What appears reasonable , wants no other Recommendation than being so ; and as to what appears over strange , Let the Reader consider , that Philosophy had never been improv'd had it not been for new Opinions ; which afterwards were rectify'd by abler Pens , and so the first Notions were lost and nameless , under new Superstructures ; but such a Fate is too agreeable for my Iudgment to repine at , or my Vanity to hope for . Perhaps I have more reason to beg pardon of my Brethren , the Members of the Athenian Society , than of the World , in that I have only ●●●tion'd the Subject to them , without taking the●● advice in the Composure ; but my Impatient Book-Seller , alledging the nearness of the Term , occasion'd the hurrying it into the Press ; some of our Members being just now gone out of Town , & some retir'd at present to their Estates in the Countrey . However , to make amends for any thing of Errors which have happen'd by haste , and want of review , ( which are many ) I think fit to promise the World Two more Pieces , which shall have the inspection of the whole Society . — As this only pretends to Uisions of the Soul , before it comes into the Body ; so the other two will treat of the Sentiments of the Soul when in the Body , viz. in Infancy , Dreams , Trances , Dotage . &c. and the manner of its Existence in a separate state , till it is joyn'd again to the Body . The First Treatise is Matter of Ridicule , and a Dream ; ( see the last Dialogue . ) The Two following will bear more grave Discourses , being certain Truths ; and perhaps the deepest Mysteries that Revelation or Natural Philosophy can treat of ; and we hope they may be so manag'd as not to be a little welcome to the world , both as to removing many false Notions , and advancing something new . One thing more I have to offer , that whereever the Reader meets with such Terms as Time , Place , or Matter attributed 〈◊〉 Spirits , he take 'em not according to the common acceptation , but as something that bears such proportion to Spirits , as Time , Place and Matter do to Bodies . I have done , and doubt not but to meet with both Applauses and Hissing , and in both Parties , from such as think themselves sufficient Iudges : But I beg their Pardon , if I 'm con●ern'd at neither ; being resolv'd to continue as secret and invisible as the B●i●gs of Pre existent Spirits . The Contents of the Several DIALOGUES . A Prefatory Dialogue between the Secretary of Fate and the Author's Soul. 1. Between the Spirits of a Poet and a Drunkard . 2. Between the Spirits of a Jacobite and a Williamite , about the Royal Congress . 3. Between the Spirits of a Bastard and a Necromancer . 4. Between the Militia of Rational Souls . 5. Between the Two Orders , Rational and Vegitable . 6. Between Mercury , a Pre-existent Spirit , a Dead Man , Charon , and Hobbs . 7. Between Two Spirits upon the Ramble , and the Spirit of an Usurer that had strangl'd himself , and walk'd in a Church-yard , about his own Tomb. 8. Between Two Spirits , the Order of Vegitable Souls , and Cupid . 9. Between an Astrologer and a Mountebank . 10. Between Two Spirits , about the Retrogradation of the Dragon's-Head and Tail. 11. Between a Spirit and his Friend , lately Imbody'd in an Infant . 12. Between the whole Order of Rational Souls , and Two Intelligencers from the other World. 13. Between the Spirits of an Emperor and a Beggar . 14. Between Two Spirits that made a Contract to keep a Correspondence , whoever came to be Embodied first . 15. Betwixt Two Spirits , about the Musick of the Spheres . 16. Between The Spirits of a poor Doctor and his Friend , and a modern Philosopher , alias Sharper , 17. Between Two Spirits on the Ramble , and a Flight of Witches , with their Guides 18. Between Two Spirits that are to be Mayor and Mayoress of a certain Corporation : when they come into their Bodies . 19. Between the Parcae , ( viz. Clotho , Lachesis , and Atropos , ) and a Book-Seller . 20. Between a Transmigrated Soul , and an Unbodied Spirit . 21. Between the whole Consistory of Spirits , examining a Heretick Soul , about some new Doctrines held forth in opposition to the common receiv'd Opinions of the Aetherial Fraternity . 22. Between the whole Consistory of Spirits , being a Discovery of Vulgar Errors , receiv'd by that suppos'd Heretick Spirit yet a Prisoner . 23. Between the Spirit of one that is to be a Member of the ATHFNIAN SOCIETY , a Correspondent , and of some that are to be Querists . 24. Between the Spirits of a General , a Midwife , and an Executioner . 25. Between the Spirits of Two Projectors . 26. Between Two Travelling Spirits . 27. Between the Spirit that is to be last Embodied , and the Spirit that is to be first re-united to its Body at the Day of Judgment . 28. Betwixt Two Spirits , one that pretends to dedeny Pre-existence , and the other , to prove it . 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A Prefatory Dialogue BETWEEN The Secretary of Fate and the Author's Soul. Author's Soul. PRay look over the Minutes of the Parcae , and amongst those Eternal Volumes , see , when I am fated to commence Temporality . Secret. Fate , In Iune , Anno Dominl , 1664. according to Humane Computation , in that part of the Globe which you are designed for . A. S. Well , and what Fortune , what Post hath the Lottery of Fate assigned me ? What Entertainment am I to expect in a new , Material Mansion ? S. F. Your Curiosity seems to argue a Desire of fixing there ; but you 'll be of another Mind when I tell you , that Incorporation is a Penalty inflicted upon Souls for their Extravagances in this World : That the Body is a Prison , a Clog , the most officious Enemy you can meet with in betraying you to false Perceptions , and irregular Conclusions . In short , you 'll find no agreeable Object , but at such times as you withdraw , and converse with Beings as simply immaterial as yourself . Now you are an unconfin'd Agent , a Stranger to those grosser Terms of Body , Place and Time : As yet you know nothing of Magnitude , Quantity , or Motion , and those innumerable Errours that result from them , by false Notions of their Nature . And when you come into the other World , you 'll be as great a Stranger to the Nature of Angels , Spirits , and Immaterial Beings , as now you are of those material ones . A. S. What surprizing Relations are these ! Shall I ever forget this inorganical way of Converse ? These immediate Conceptions , without the Assistance of Sense ? This simple Particularity of Perception , without Composition or Division ? In short , this Nature that I carry about me ? If so ( dear Minister of Fate ) lay down some Rules for me to take along with me , which , after I am imbodied , may restore this Knowledge to me , and the unhappy Tribe of Humanity : 'T will be a great Office of Charity , if possible to be accomplished . — S. F. 'T is utterly impossible . A. S. — Why so ? S. F. Because that a finite Power and an infinite Subject are incompatible . A. S. How far then is it possible for Humanity to conceive ? S. F. When the Infinite Eternal Mind was pleas'd to create Matter , Time and Place , he extended the 〈◊〉 Empyreum to confine 'em in . Whatever is beyond this vast Convex , this spacious 〈◊〉 , is what has been from Eternity : Shou'd I say really what that is , Mankind cou'd not understand it , because of an Incongruity ( as urged before ) betwixt the Power and Subject : I might as well enjoyn 'em to smell with their Eyes , or tune an Instrument by their Taste . But however , to speak as near as I can to their Capacities , — Quantity and Place , beyond the Coelum Empyreum , are swallowed up , as Time is , in Eternity . Before this Coelum Empyreum and its material Inclosures were created , all was , as now is , beyond it ; and when the last Fire ( a part of that material Fabrick ) shall burn up all the rest of Matter , and by the Fiat of its awful Creator consume it self , there shall be no more Matter , Time , or Place , but all return to the first Eternal Constitution : Not so much as Bodies immortalliz'd shall be Matter , according to the Definition now made of it ; but a new inexpressible Something , which cannot be translated out of the Language of Spirits , into that of Men : Matter is not so perfect as Immateriality , Time as Eternity , Place as Incircumscriptability . — And whatever Humane Philosophers wou'd be at , I can exp●rimentally assure 'em , that they come as near an Adequate Conception of these things — when they think not at all of them , as they do in their most Elevated Contemplations . However , not to leave 'em altogether in the dark , a Collection of what you now do in this pre-existent State will ( if deliver'd according to their Capacities ) not make 'em less ignorant , especially when they are put in mind of the Method of their own Living before they came into their Bodies . A. S. Perhaps they will not believe they ever acted such things , but look upon all as a Dream or Fiction . — What think you of Pythagoras his Collections before he went into his Body ? A Copy of such an Original must be authentick upon your Subscription , and consequently useful to Mankind . S. F. I must attend the Destinies , who are now Sitting in Council ; but when I return , I 'll bring you the Original out of the Registry , which you may translate as near as the Language of Spirits can be adapted to the Language of Men. DIALOGUE I. Between the Spirits of a Poet , and a Drunkard . D. WEll met , Brother : Which way is your Flight design'd ? P. I have just left the Bosom of Causes , to take a Prospect of the lower World , to see if there be any Preparation for my Reception there : And yet I 'm much troubl'd at the Apprehension of being clogg'd with that uneasie , restless Lump of Humanity , and the attending Consequences make me very impatient . D. Why so ? What Conjectures have ye ? P. 'T is the want of reasonable Conjectures ; for by all the Observations I can make of my Temper , I cannot resolve my self whether I 'm a Male , or a Female Spirit . But why do I thus busie my self about Sexes ? Certainly 't is ominous , and argues my Imbodying near at hand : But if after Six Thousand Years Expectation I shou'd be ty'd to a Poet , I shall reckon it a Fore-stalling my Damnation , and had e'en as good commence Devil , without any more adoe , and take up with one Hell. — See you not that Wretch in yonder Grove , with his Hat over his Eyes , scratching his Head , tearing his Nails , and sending his poor Hackney-Soul about , like a Spaniel Dog , to fetch and carry Similitudes , Rhimes , Composition , &c. I remember , about Thirty Years since , when he was our Companion , he wou'd sometimes break off in the midst of a Discourse , without bidding God b'w'ye , and away to the Brooks , Groves and Fountains ; which made me suspect the nearness of a Poetick Preferment . — But , hark ! — The Humour of our late Companion in his new Lodging ! When formless and inanimate I lay , Sleeping in Chaos with my Fellow-Clay , Or e'er those te●ming Particles had met , To make this wretched Composition so compleat , Without my Knowledge or Concurrence , thou Bidst me awake and live . — Well , and what then ? — Why the Sense is out before the Rhime : Now 't wou'd be charitable to assume an Airy Organ , and help him out , viz. — I know not how . Poor Wretch ! He knows not what to do , unless he un●oes all , and begins again , which he 'd as lieve be hang'd as attempt , having taken so much pains about it already . Oh , for Sysiphus's restless Stone , or Belides's leaking Tun ! They are minute and pettite Tasks to his . Not Ixion's Wheel has half the Torture of an over-hasty Period . — But this is not all : When he has undergone the bitter Throws and Pains of Rhimeship , then the Darling Off-spring of his Brain turns prostitute to the Abuses of all the World : The Praises of wise Men are so few , that their Voice is lost in so large a Theatre ; and the numerous Applauses of Fools are too loud a Scandal . — And after all this , Is 't not pity the poor Rogue shou'd take such pains to be damned ? For there 's not one Poet in Five Thousand that escapes . It had gone hard with Ouldham himself , if it had not been for the Penance of his own Satyrs . Say , Fellow-Immateriality : What shall I do ? I can never look down upon a Couple of Lovers , but I 'm afraid their Toying will end in making an Heliconian Prison for me ; especially if the Innamorato is for Balls , Masquerading , and Love-Sonnets . D. Alas , Brother ! I 'm all Resentment and Pity . Little do Mortals think what Plague we are at , about the Lodging and Entertainment we expect at their Hands : — But for my part , your Apprehensions of Incorporation are all Charms , and Sweetness , to the dismal Reception I look for . P. — VVhy , what 's the matter with you ? D. — I can never loave our happier Regions , to visit the lower Elements , but , before I am aware , I find my self amongst Sea Fowl , hovering over Rivers , Ponds and Marshes , admiring the Scaly Sholes , and envying the Pastime of those ever thirsty Revellers . Now , VVhat can this mean , but that I 'm ordain'd to actuate a Drunkard ? And if so , Hell is a Toy to such a Confinement : This Moment wou'd I plunge into the boundless Depths , to be secur'd from such a Companion . But why that rash Thought ? Is not Hell also crowded with ' em ? And are not its Horrours doubled by their Confession ? Yet , if Hell cou'd be Hell without 'em , 't wou'd be a happy Place , and nothing in 't of the Beast , Antick or Nonsense , but a rational Complaint of Despair . VVonder not , dear Brother , at my deeper Reflections , till you 've consider'd yonder Figure at the Old D — l Tavern . VVhat think you of their Motions , Converse and Passions ? Suppose all their Discourse were taken in Short-hand , and the weakest Person amongst 'em shou'd have a View of the whole when he 's in a Mood of Thinking : VVould not he blush at such Follies , at such an unaccountable Expence of Time ; especially if he thought an Hour so spent was of equal length with any other Hour in the Line of Life , and must be equally accounted for ? Alas ! VVho wou'd suppose that Souls , cloyster'd up in these sensualizd , unthinking Statues , were ever our Companions ! Come , let 's retire towards our peaceful Regions , and not be VVitnesses of what a Mid-night Scene produces . A Poet's Structure ! afraid of a Poetick Mansion ! 'T is a Paradise , to what I dread . Nor is there any Spirit in all our Order , that can be afraid of such a Body , but I must meet with it in this Epitome of all Plagues . A Drunkard can be Poet , Beggar , Cully , Buffoon , or any thing : So that I am like to meet with the most abject Slavery in Nature . DIALOGUE II. Between the Spirits of a Jacobite and a Williamite , about the Royal Congress . W. UP , ye lazy Dog : Are not ye asham'd to kennel and snore in that Star , till it smells again of Drowsiness ? I. VVho 's there ? — Now , are not you a spiteful Spirit , to disturb my Rest , when you have taken yours ? — You are just crept out of some fix'd , idle Luminary , where you have had no jolting , nor disturbance , and come to perplex me , who am already Topsie-turvy with the swift Motion of my Erratick Mansion , which moves at least a Hundred Miles a Minute . — If I am out in my Computation , 't is because I 'm scarce awake . W. Arise , prating , and let 's away to the Assignation . I. — VVhat Assignation ? VVhat d' ye dream of ? Have ye call'd in at Aquarius , for a Dram o' the Pitcher ? W. No , no : A Royal Congress of all the Princes in Christendom are met together , and Thousand Thousands of naked Souls are crowding for Commissions , to inspire the succeeding Generation of that illustrious Convention . I. VVell , I do'nt care , I wait for new Revolutions ; but if I did not , I wou'd not budge one Foot , for I 'm sure we can't all speed ; and 't wou'd vex me to the Heart to put in for a Prince's Off-spring , and afterwards ride the Wooden Horse in St. James ' Park , or turn Cobler . W. VVell , I 'm loth to spoil the old Tenet in the other VVorld , that All Souls are equal , and are only diversify'd by the Dispositions of their Organs ; or I 'd proclaim thee a mean ; little Soul , scarce fit to animate Plants and Minerals . I. — Pray , be gone about your Business : I tell you once more , I 'm for a broad Sword and a Centry-Box at the End of the Canoll : And for your Proclamations , 't is not good I catch ye transgressing upon the Grass , left I take the Forfeiture , and give you a Strapado or two into the bargain . W. I believe you are a Iacobite-Soul , or you wou'd not absent from the Congress . I. — Perhaps I am , — and it may be I shall have a greater Commission than I tell you of : But this I can assure you , there are many Iacobites that will come in for Commissions , with private Lewid'ores in their Fobs , in spight of all the Care and Diligence that can be us'd to the contrary . W. — 'T is possible : But what 's the Issue of it ? — You see Iove has taken a particular Care of the British Monarch's Person and Concerns , — and every Sessions the Triangular Supporter preaches a late R●epentance to his Enemies . I. — I don't value that ; that can only discompose the Body which I shall be ty'd to , and so I shall be the sooner at liberty again for more Rambles . W. — You 're mistaken ; you 'll find other Obligations upon your self when you come to be incorporate , than you now dream of . But turn and take th' other Nap , — whilst I attend , and know how to be happy , either in my own , or in my Companion 's good Success . DIALOGUE III. Between the Spirits of a Bastard and a Necromancer . B — PReach Patience to me ! — O Hell and Fury ! That I who was the great Comrade of Alexander , Iulius Caesar , Aristotle and Cato Utican's Souls , shou'd now at length be cloyster'd up in an Oyster-Wench's Bastard ! I saw the Saracen's-Head Porter and her at work , but I little thought the Teeming Embrio was design'd for me . Alas , from how great Hopes am I fallen ! The present Lewis and his Allye attended me like Lacquies , and if I had not been upon the Ramble at their first want of Motion , I had certainly had the Refusal of those Commissions ; but now I must away , and into such a Body too , as humble Irus ( were he now alive ) wou'd scorn the base Alliance , Now must I drudge about with Dandry-Comb● , and Small Coal-Betty , or else move a Thoughtless Lump , from Door to Door , and often meet , instead of Bread , the threatning Charity of Bridewell . Add yet to this , Kib'd Heels , a Snotty Nose , and part of Egypt's Plagues . — Ah Constantine , when only thou and I were Candidates for the Roman Sceptre , I little thought of such an homely Cottage . — O Rage , VVretchedness ! N. — VVho 's this that talks of Rage and VVretchedness , without comparing his with my hard Fate ? A base born Embrio to enliven ? 'T is a happy Residence to mine ! If Fate wou'd but give me my Choice , I 'd hug the Brat ; nay , I 'd give my Hopes of future Happiness to boot , and think 't an easie , cheap Damnation to what I must of force endure . B. — How ! — Now my Impatience cools , and grows milder , to think that the Destinies have not left me the only Stigmatiz'd Infortune . But how , in what great Instance am I thus out-done ? N. A young Ignatian just form'd , when several of us pricking in the Lottery of Fate , he fell to my Share ; whereupon I read in those Brazen Volumes and found that he will be a Necromancer : Alas , how shall I be treated from those Officio●s Imps of Darkness , ( the Assisters of that Black Art , ) which I have so often chased out of these purer Regions , when they have been upon their hasty Errands ? — Or what can I expect from our own Society , when I my self shall hereafter come upon the same Account , mounted upon a drudging Fallen Angel , being ty'd to too great a Lump of Clay to soar aloft , as now I 'm us'd to do , now I 'm a pure Agent , unconstrain'd and free , oblig'd to truckle to no Humane Laws ? But , alas ! my Freedom is about to sink , Incorporation beckens me , ( a Law severer than all the Ten to Mankind . — The first Choice I now expect , is to commence Iunior Devil , and wear th' Impostor's Badge . I sell my self , to buy Preferment in that holy Tribe . But , O the foppish Rules that I must use , to cheat my self and others ! Such Words repeat , and such Characters draw ; such antick Postures use , and such Familiars entertain : And then the Consequence of all this is only to please this Sense , or gratifie that Malice ; when all 's a most egregious Cheat and Fiction , only the Ensurance of Damnation is real . I remember Dr. Faustus's Spirit said as much to me , and boasted how he 'd fool the Devil : But when he came to be inclos'd in Flesh , he streight unactive grew , dull , and incapable to think , project , or judge of what he undertook ; and when he dar'd to play about the fiery Ditch , he fell , and sunk for ever . B. — Alas , hard Fate ! — Well , since we must away , where is this Iesuit to live ? — Say , — that when our Bodies are asleep , we may meet , converse , and pity one another's Hardships . N. — Within Ten Miles of London . — He that can play at Legerdemain with Hell , can easily Bilk an Act of Parliament . B. — True : — I shall find you out . DIALOGUE IV. Between the Militia of Rational Souls . Capt. WEll , Gentlemen , the Quarrel increases betwixt the Souls of our Order , and those of the Vegitable ; I can't yet tell what will be the Event , but I think it Wisdom to discipline our selves in the Art of War , which we have almost lost , 't is so long since the Skirmish of Michael and his Angels , with the Devil and his . I was but Lieutenant then , and brought up the File next the lowest Rank of Angels , but we quickly did the Business when we came to engage ; and I doubt not but we shall have the same Success against these turbulent Vegitable Spirits , if they do proceed to muster . Lieut. 1. But , pray Captain , what Remarks did the Astrologers and Virtuosi of the little , heavy Globe , called Earth , make on the Action ? Capt. VVhy , truly , ( as one of our Order , that held Correspondence with 'em , told us , ) they retir'd to their Closets , and were ready to crack their Brains ; all the Pious went to Prayers , and not one amongst that Race , but were almost distracted . The Roaring of our Vehicles they call'd Thunder ; our Balls they called Thunder-bolts ; and our Priming with the Antiperistasis of Snow and Spiritous Sulphure , that they call'd Lightning ; and all this to such a Miracle , that 't was put in their Chronicles . But another remarkable Passage was this ; the Elements clear'd up , and Men ventur'd out of their Houses again , to view the Heavens , when we had just routed the Rebels , and were in pursuit of 'em , leaping from Star to Star ; which made the gazing VVorld below us think 't was a Shooting of Stars . — But to the Business in hand : Is our whole Number here ? Lieut. — Yes , Captain . Capt. Very well . — Silence there . — To the Right , To the Right , To the Right : As ye were . To the Left , To the Left about : As ye were . Lieut. — You make too great a Noise , the VVorld below us will be alarm'd again , and expect a Charge upon their Heads . Capt. — VVho 's there , that Catechises me ? Set him upon Charles's Wain , with two Dozen of Thunder-bolts at his Heels , and to abide the first Charge of our Infantry for his Sawciness . So , very well : — Mind that third File . — Keep in Order , or you shall ride with your Companion . — Silence there behind . — Exhale new Vapours . Condense new Clouds . Shape your Clouds into Vehicles . Prepare your Balls and Hail-stones . Prime with Snow . Ram down . Advance . Present . Charge . Lieut. — Oh , dear Captain , How am I pelted ! See how the Region is scowr'd behind me for Three Hundred and Fifty Leagues together : Then what must I suffer , that am so near your roaring Muzzles . Capt. — Enough : Let him down . — But who is yonder , that makes such haste towards us ? Messenger . — O Captain , Sad News ! Your last Charge has overthrown three of the Planets Houses , and ruin'd all their Aspects , Conjunctions , Oppositions , &c. that they will never be habitable again : So that all the Astrologick Souls are up in Conspiracy , and swear a Revenge for spoiling their Trade . Capt. How ? How 's that ? Messenger . Aries , Taurus and Gemini are no more , and the Astrologers are up in Arms. Capt. Astrologers dare neither plot nor fight , unless they consult the Stars . — Now , if the Planets Houses are broke down , the Art is buried in the same Ruines : So that there 's no danger of any thing but Noise , or Revolt to the Vegitable Souls . — Well , Lieutenant , for the future you 'll learn to be more modest : — See that you take a List of Names , and call a Rendesvouz for Exercise once a Week , and remember to fill up the Places of such Souls as are sent into the other World : You need not trouble your self about your Charge , it will last but till 1697. 'T is said the Milennium begins then . DIALOGUE V. Between the two Orders , Rational and Vegitable . Prolocut●r , W●ll , Gentlemen , since we are all equal by Creation , and Inequality is only contingent by Actuation in different Organs , my Opinion is this , ( though I 'm willing to submit to the Judgment of this honourable Consistory ) that a ●o●●tention about Superiority may , by a solemn Decree , be enacted Criminal , and a severe Penalty enjoyn'd ; or else , that the two Orders of Spirits may chuse their several Champions for a friendly Dispute , and cast Lots who shall begin , that we may never hereafter be troubl'd to compose our continu'd Aetherial Wranglings . Both Orders , — A Friendly Dispute , decisive by Plurality of Voices , is the best Method . Prol●cutor , — Chuse your Champions then . Is 't done ? Both Orders , Yes ; and the first Lot ●alls upon the Vegitable . The Plea of Uegitable Souls for a Superiority ●ver the Rational Souls . Vegit. — I cannot but think my self extreamly happy , ( Most Reverend Judges ) in that I have this Opportunity , on the Behalf of our O●der , ( whether design'd for Trees , Herbs or Minerals , ) to make my Publick Defence against that imperious Order of Rational Souls , who daily subject us to their Abuses , and anticipate the Tyranny which their Brethren , now incorporate in the Lower World , usurp over us . But , not to tire your Patience with remote Circumstances , I shall only apply my self to what 's materially pertinent to the Business in hand , not doubting to prove , but that we ought to be equal , at least , if not preferr'd upon all Accounts that have ever yet been judg'd sufficient for a Distinction of Priority in other Cases . And First , An Apple-tree is an Existent in Nature , as well as Man , and much more observant of her Laws ; is never drunk nor gluttonous , invades not the Right of its Neighbours , never lyes , circumvents or quarrels , never cries nor laughs at Appearances of things , never ▪ fools nor cheats it self , not is proud of its own Shame : But all this , and greater Irregularities than these , are committed by Mankind , against the juster Laws of Nature . Now the Consequence is plain , that Mankind being greater Aggressors upon the Privileges of Nature than we , we must be dearer to Nature than they ; and we doubt not but the Preference was design'd us , only they got the start by some Trick and Circumvention , and wou'd now endeavour to perpetuate their Usurpations by Custom . Thus far to our purer Innocence , and exacter Observance of Nature's Laws ; which is our first Argument for Preference . Next , To the Excellency of our Existence after Incorporation ; in which , Nature shews a particular Care of us , by assuming us into her immediate Midwifery ; but , as if she were afraid to be accessary to the monstrous Procreations of Man , leaves him to the Caprices and Whimseys of his own Lust , to beget , or not beget , as he pleases . And when he is begot , what Image bears he ? Perhaps he 'll tell ye , the Image of the God of Nature . But we beg his Pardon there , and shall take the Freedom to tell him , that his Vices have effac'd that ; and now , instead of his polluted Body , Legs , Arms , Feet , &c. we can shew an innocent Trunk , Root , Branches , Fruit , &c. And as to his Immortality , we are not yet behind him ; for we can't be annihilated , but are always somewhere , or in some thing . Nay , the last Fire it self shall beget in us ( as well as in him ) a more glorious Change , and not destroy us . But as to our Converse , or Knowledge in the Laws and Constitutions of Nature , he is far our linferior ; and he might quickly discern it , if he wou'd but use the same Measures for Trial , as he does with his Neighbours ; who , if they can do well , he concludes they can say well . But when do we act irregularly ? Are we not always just , temperate ? &c. In Minerals , the Whispering and Embracements of the Load stone and Iron might convince proud Humanity of our Knowledge ; As also the Love between the Stone Pantarbe and Gold is as noble as that single Instance of a Pylades and Orestes . Amongst Trees and Plants , the Friendship between the Olive and Myrtle , the Nature of Sensible Plants , ( as your Pride condesc●nds to call 'em , ) which shrink at the sacrilegious Hands of Humanity ; the Plant which ye call the Indian Lamb ; the dropp'd Leaves of some Trees , which run away from you , and many more such Instances , might satisfie you of some hidden Worth and Knowledge in us , which ye pass over because ye can't conceive the Prof●ndity of it , by reason of the weakness of your Organs , and Defectibility of Judgment : And yet , notwithstanding all this , you shall have an ingrateful , proud Man come into an Orchard , on the Back●side of a House he calls his own , ( Fool that he is , to be so mistaken in Loans and Usurpations , ) and with a threatning Ax how down some poor , helpless Tree , not considering all the time , that cou'd he understand the Vict●m Vegitable's Dialect , he might hear himself thus 〈…〉 : — Ingrateful Man ! Where is my 〈◊〉 ? What have I done , thus to be wounded , and 〈…〉 my happy Society , into the revenging F●re ? Is it because I yielded my Fruit Without a Grudge , and paid the Annual Rent of Nature without Acquittance ? Because I kept the stormy Winds from ●ff thy House , 〈…〉 my hospitable Branches for hy 〈…〉 him , if he had sense and reason enough to do it . Thus much for the Excellency of our Nature when incorporate : and which we might urge as an Argument of Pre●erence . But after all , we 'll relinquish the Advantages of what has been said , on purpose ( if possible ) to gratifie that Monster Humanity . and only insist upon the ensuing Topick , which has nothing in 't of Accusation , Censure , or Pride , viz. 'T is generally believ'd all Souls are equal in Entity ; whereupon it follows , that we are not yet drain'd into the Posteriors of Immateriality , having not yet suffer'd any Change , or been included in Matter or Form ; so that whatever Indignities have hitherto been cast upon us , it has been out of a Supposition of Degeneration by mingling with improper Organs in the lower world : Now either we are compell'd to it or not ; the last ye are sensible is not our choice , and the first there 's no resisting ; and if so , we ought not to be despis'd for what we can't avoid ; for we being commanded into Organs that are only fit for Vegitati●n , do Vegitate , and the Rational finding a convenient Organ for Ratiocination , does ratiocinate . Whereas if the Rational had been cloyster'd in the Organs of Vegetables , or the Vegitable had been sent into the Organs of Rationals , we had chang'd our Offices , and commenc'd alternate Beings : Where is the difference then , or what reason is there for Rationals to pretend Priority overus ? None at all ; No more than when Three Novice-Dicers shou'd cast 8 , 1● , or 12 , and he that throws most , shou'd brag of his Nobility , for being a greater Debtor to Fortune than the others : Thus our degrees of Existence in the other world , will be owing not to our proper Choice , but a Despotick Impulse and Disposal of ●ate ; so that we shall actuate there like exil'd Kings , who are not less of the Blood-Royal , for Suffering or Confinement . The Defence of the Rational Order of Souls , against the Plea of the Uegitable Order . Ratiional . — Our Vegitable Orator ( most judicious Auditory ) has been pleas'd to offer to relinquish the Advantages of the former part of his Harangue , when he found he had spent his Stock of Calumny , to raise a prejudice in your Unbyass'd Judgments against the Dignity of our Order , and afterwards , under pretence of Accommodation , being sensible of the weakness of his Cause , wou'd insinuate one Topick void of Accusation , Censure , or Pride , ( as he calls it , ) we might add , or Reason . ) But as we are not against any Overtures of Peace that shall be decreed by this Worthy Assembly ; so we shall endeavour to shew a deep resentment of any dishonouble Terms to attain it . Wherefore we restore our Antagonist all the Advantages he can make of the former part of his Discourse ; which we shall discuss particularly . And first , We never treated these Vegitables as Non-Existences in Nature , nor have they proved one Act of Tyranny which we have exercis'd over ' em . And why they shou'd boast of their not being , drunk , injurious , lying , quarrelling , circumventing , &c. is very ridiculous ; since their Organs incapacitate them from such Functions . Suppose it were criminal to fly , shou'd a Rock boast of its Virtue in refraining ? Not , unless Nature had given it Wings , Power and Pleasure to fly : And they 'll come off no better in accusing us of ●quarrelling , injustice , &c. It shews the great variety of Functions we are capable of . Besides , in doing so , we pursue an appearance of some Good , ( for we can't will Evil as Evil , ) and in doing so , we act naturally ; so that at the same time as they accuse us of quarrelling● &c. they accuse themselves of blooming , fructifying ▪ &c. which is natural to them . As for that observation ▪ of Natures assuming them into her immediate Midwifry and Care , and leaving us to our own pleasure in Generation , 't is an argument of our prehemenence ; for Nature deals with them as Parents do with Children and Fools ; they must be fed , kept out of Fire and Water , and Provision made for 'em ; but we being above such little usages , are able to procreate without compulsion , and are accordingly left to our selves ; Nature always employing most of her Care where her works are most weak and imperfect . As to the defacing our first image by our Vices , we have already answer'd it above ; in shewing how ridiculous and foreign it is to urge a Case out of their own Classis , altho' if they were capable to understand it , we cou'd tell 'em of a remedy for our restoration . But what a wretched Argument they bring to make their Duration equal to our Immortality , upon supposition of Non-annihilation ; for tho' we grant 'em to be always somewhere or in something after a specifick dissolution by Motion , ( or Fire , which is the same , ) yet they come to be nameless , — indistinguishable , and as hard to find out , as when they lay in the bo●om of their Cha●s or first Matter , and 't is as good to be nothing , as an undefinable Separation of unknown Particles . But we put off our Nature to receive it again more 〈◊〉 than before . The next Argument insisted on , was , Their excellency of Converse , and Knowledge of the Laws and Constitutions of Nature ; which is all Aenigma and Riddle to our Order , nor can we suppose it , for all those Instances that they have brought to confirm it , without violence to Reason ; but however , since we will not be behind ●em in Civility , for quietness sake , we 'll 〈◊〉 an unknown Dialect and Converse , and see what will come out then . The 〈◊〉 of your Language , be it what it will , is not to be excus'd from Li●s , Slanders , Heresie , &c , For no doubt , but when a Learned Tree amongst ye , holds forth the Doctrine of Fructification , &c. you shall have its next Neighbour with secret subterranean Fibres , f●lloniously sucking away the Sap and Life of its Teacher ; and the more audacious Wood-bine , not as●am'd of a publick Rape upon every Plant it meets with , and since ye your selves agree that Words and Actions are Sympathetick , what Equivocations , private Cabals and Plots ye have together , when ye see an hopeful Embryo-Plant , without giving any affront , environ'd round , and strangled to death with an Ambush of malicious Thorns and Briars : And since ye give us two or three Instances of the Sympathy ( which ye call Converse ) between Plants and Minerals , ye must give us the Liberty to observe , that 't is but them Instances , and a few more that are to be found in your whose Oeconomy , but that generally you are so suspicious , and afraid of one anothers Tricks , and Circumventions , that ye keep no Correspondence at all . As to a man's Tyranny over his Apple-Tree , in cutting it down when he pleases , the Imputation is lost , if we prove he has a right to do it , as we shall by and by , when we come to consider your last unanswerable T●pick : In the mean time , the fine Harangue you make the falling Tree to speak , is very different from the custom of other Trees , who in such a moment are rather studying revenge , than any thing else ; as may be seen by their often falling upon , and killing the person that cuts 'em , down ; nay , we cou'd give you some Instances where your Revenge has been so unjust , as to destroy the Horses and Oxen , that only stood by to draw ye away , and that only in obedience to their Master's Command . And now to the last Topick ; the only Pillar upon which ye boldly offer'd to lay the Structure of your whole Plea , in which you urge , That there 's no reason of preheminence where the choice is not our own , but ●he despotick Impulse or Disposal of Fate ; bringing the Instances of Dicers , and the Nobility of an Exil'd King ; to which , we answer , That Dignity is Dignity , whether acquir'd or confer'd , to use your own Instance : Suppose A. B. C. equally skilful , throw , who should throw most for a certain Preferment , and C. accidentally , or by a secret Order of Fate , casts 12 , when A. cast only 8 , and B. 10 , is not C. upon his Investiture into his Office , more honourable than A. and B. especially when they come bare-headed to petition such or such a Favour from him , they are mad if they don't believe it , and he deserves himself to be turn'd out of his Office that under-values it , so far as not to execute it , and keep up its Privileges . To the last Instance , we answer , That Fate is not accountable to Persons , whether it prefers or debases 'em ; but it expects in both conditions they make the best of its disposals : and thus we conclude , not at all doubting the favourable Suffrage of this Convention , to confirm our Privileges and Dignity above the Order of Vegitables . Major Part. — The Rational , the Rational Order . Prolocutor . — Well Gentlemen , withdraw , there shall be an effectual Care for a Regulation of what 's amiss ; and as near as may be , to a general Satisfaction , and so depart in Peace . DIALOGUE VI. Between Mercury , a Pre-existent Spirit , a Dead Man , Charon , and Hobbs . Mercury — STand back there , I 'm in great haste ; a poor VVretch that lies strugling under the pangs of Separation , cannot be loos'd till I hand him to Charon's Ferry . Spirit — Pray good Mercury , hold a little , I have one request to beg of you . Merc. — Speak — Speak quickly , VVhat is 't ? Sp. — Only be my Guardian , and let me wait upon you into the other VVorld , thence to the Infernal Shades , and so back again . Merc. — Indeed your Order has been very civil to me always when I past these Regions , and tho' it will be some trouble to me , yet your Request is granted , — take hold of that end of my Wand , and keep close behind me . Sp. — VVhat strange — Merc. — Hush , not a word , we are now at our first Journeys end . — Ay , that 's the Object ; see how Death has fixt his Eyes , and sits triumphant upon his Lips : So , now I have eas'd him , his Corps must be left to be lamented and buried by his Friends , but he marches with us . Sp. — VVhere is he ? Deadman● — Here , VVhat do ye design to do with me ? Merc. — That last Office I do to all Mankind — Conduct you to your last Aboad — Holo Charon , make haste , and take this Fare . Charon — VVhat is he ? He smells of Parchment , Subpoena's Injunctions , &c. VVas he not towards the Law ? Dead . — Yes , I have be●n a Barrister . Ch. — Mercury , I dare not take him with all that Luggage about him ; he 'll sink the Wherry . Take away that Forgery — Very well , and that double Mortgage — So , and that Parcel of Replications , Writs of Error , &c. — Ay , now we are light enough , we 'll be over presently . Dead . VVhere am I now ? Merc. — Amongst your Predecessors ; you are welcome to Shoar , and so farewel ; Come along Comrade . Sp ▪ — Tarry a little , he says something . I wou'd fain know what Thoughts I shall entertain , when I have left my Body . Dead . — Amongst my Predecessors ? Then I 'll go seek out for Mr. H●bbs , to know the reason why I am thus cruelly treated , when I follow'd his Rules , so exactly . — Yonder he goes — Hobbs , Mr. Hobbs . Hobs — How I am continually plagu'd , with my new Proselytes , that lay all their Damnations at my door ? But I believe some on 'em put upon me ; I 'll question this new Comers Principles — Do you know me ? Dead . — Yes to my Sorrow : — VVhat think you now of your Doctrine of Fatality ? Hobs — VVhat Doctrine do ye mean ? Dead . — That every individual person is fated to all the Actions of his Life ; yea , even the most minute and inconsiderable ; as for instance , to get up at such a time of the Day , to feed himself precisely at such an Hour , and with such a certain number of bits , to go over the Streets at so many Steps , to VVhore and be Drunk at such a time , to go to Prayers and be Melancholy at such a time , to dispute against his Principles at such a time : In short , that all that we think , say , and act , are necessarily predestin'd , and run as links in an inevitable Chain of Causes . — VVhat think ye of the Reasons of this Hypothesis now ? That we are made up of two parts , a Soul , and a Body ; and that when these are conjoyn'd we must live necessarily as long as we do live ; and that so long as we do live , we must necessarily have a mind which has its perception by the Senses : That as this perception is necessary , so is the choice that we make by it : As for instance , Something that is good , or at least appears so to the perception , offers it self , and as such , 't is impossible to refuse it , as a proper Object to the mind , as 't is also impossible after perception , to choose an Evil as such ; and thus we are 〈◊〉 to VVho●ing for those Arguments which our reason offers , that we should refrain , carry not along with 'em so great a good to our perception , as those other reasons that induce us to it , and as a great power necessarily commands a l●sser , so the will necessarily chooses it as most agreeable to it , and thus I refrain VVhoring , when there appears a greater good to let it alone : Thus I am fated to make so many steps in walking the length of my Chamber , because to step so far at a step , appears more agreeable to my Constitution , Fancy , &c. than to step further or shorter , and therefore as most agreeable , it most inclines my will , which therefore is necessitated to act accordingly : As to the Body it depends necessarily upon the Mind , for my Hand cannot move of it self , unless I move it , and if I move it , it is necessitated to move ; and can't help it ; and thus , Mr. Hobbs , I 'm necessitated to be Damn'd , because the way to it , had more appearance of good in it , than walking in another way , and therefore I cou'd not but choose it . Oh! what an Unhappy Wretch was I , that was not fated to examine this Doctrine by the same Measures that I did all others ; truth is only known by falshood , and falshood by truth ; black by white , and white by black , and every thing by its contrary : What a Mysterious Riddle then is this , Which is both , and all one ? viz. Do , or do not do , 't is fated . If I wou'd have done a thing , and examin'd it 's contrary , viz. cou'd not do it , or vice versa , then there had been fate in the case , otherwise Hobbism , or a new Riddle , whose Solution had been Ruine in one World , and Damnation in another . What 's the meaning of Laws , Rewards , and Punishments ? For if I act what I must act , Why am I bid to do so , or forbid to do so ? If I rob my Neighbour , Why shou'd a little superinduc'd Law take hold of me , and not that great Law of Fatality preserve me since I act agreeable to it ? What injustice can I do when eternal Fate stands by me , and warrants all my Actions ? Fool that I am , was I to live my Life over again , I wou'd only believe , and warrantably too , that Fate , though it be like a Law , yet it speaks not in this manner ; This Man shall do thus , and this thing shall befal that Man , but rather thus , whatsoever a Soul chooseth , such and such things shall certainly follow ; for 't is not the Action , but the Consequence of the Action , that is Fate . — If Fate had design'd , that if Paris Ravish'd Helena , the Grecians shou'd contend with Troy about it : But this was once in Paris's power to do , or not to do without Compulsion or Necessity . Thus Apollo foretold Caius , That if he begat a Son , that Son would kill him , which was conditional and not necessary , thus Plato ; If it were not thus , the ill have a protection for their Vices , and the Good deserve no praise . To which I might add , That there are certain Moral Instincts , co essenti●l with Humanity , eternally ●ixt and unchangeable , such as Love , Iustice , Religion , &c. not fitted to a private temper , or a particular Nation , to these instincts we are all really chain'd by a Fatality and necessity of Act , more or less , notwithstanding all our struggles to be rid of 'em , but to speak of Fatalities in opposition to these , is to charge the great eternal mind with Contradictions , Divisions , and at last with Non-Entity ; which now I can too late think of : Oh that I cou'd , that I cou'd . — Sp. — Pray Mercury let 's begone from this unhappy Subject of Fatality , and let 's see something new among the Dead , I want to take a view of Alexander , Caesar , Hercules , Epimenondas , and the other brave Heroes , so much talkt of , or the great Philosopher M●nippus , I know not which to ask for first . Merc. — Men●ppus ! He was the greatest Man the World ever bred , his life really Philosophiz'd , whilst others Talk'd , — That is he there , you cannot vex him . Sp. Lend me your Wand , I 'll hit him one dab on 's Pate for Tryal . — Merc. No , no , you must be civil to Strangers . — See that behind him is — Hercules . Sp. — But where 's his Club ? Methinks he looks so like a silly I'uny , that I durst venture a foil with him : But where 's fair Hellen , and the ugly Thersites ? Merc. — They stand together there . Sp. — Bless me ! How the Dead equals all things ? I have only one other Question to ask , and I have done ; Pray Mercury , of what Quality or Calling are those generally , who are dignified for their Vertue . Merc. — Ignorant poor Labourers of both Sexes , that have been the greatest Enemies to their Sences , those Nurses of all Vice. Sp. — This will be s●range News for our Aetherial Inhabitants , who are all gaping to be Lords , Dukes , Princes , and Emperors . Merc. — Come , let 's be gone , my business is never sleeping . Sp. — I can't press upon you any longer , — pray lead the way — Strange ! Where are we got already ? — What fine Countries are yonder ? — Merc. — Pontus , Galatia , Cappadocia , Bithinia , &c. — Well , Do you know where you are now ? Sp. — In my own Region . Thanks , kind Mercury for this Kindness . Mer. I am glad I have gratify'd you . Fare well . Sp. — Farewell . DIALOGUE VII . Between Two Spirits upon the Ramble , and the Spirit of an Usurer that had strangl'd himself , and walk'd in a Church-yard , about his own Tomb. 1. Sp. — MEthinks ( tho' I know no reason for 't ) I tremble to come so near these Regions of Death and Horrour . What shou'd we do here , amongst the Graves and Tombs of the Deceased ? Is it pleasant to view the Triumphs of that pale-fac'd Tyrant ? 2. Sp. — No : But if we can find some of our old Acquaintance , hov'ring o'er the Prisons of their Bodies , it may be a Satisfaction to ask some Questions . There is one that often visits his Tomb , ( and Body , which he left too hastily : ) He can't be long absent , the Clock has struck Twelve . — Hush , here he comes : — Stand still , and put on Invisibility . Suicide , — Hail , dear Tomb ! the dear Repository of my other Part. — But why shou'd I love and pardon the adulterous Lump , which left me , for the Embraces of Death ; and being deaf to all Intreaties and Reasons , violently thrust me out of Possession . How am I then bewitch'd , to visit the old , ingrateful Mansion , and assume an Aerial Resemblance of what I once was ! — Assist me , Fancy : What Hair had he ? — Right . And what a Face ? — That 's exact . — Now , for a Body , Arms , Thighs , Legs and Feet ? They are more easie . — So. — Now , for Cloaths ? — That 's truly imitated . Now methinks I am A. — B. — the very same throughout : How I hug my self in this Figure ! — There 's nothing wanting now , but to tell Moneys upon this Grave-stone , till the envious Cock proclaims a too too eager Flux of Time. — Very well : Now I am seated . — Perhaps some Fools may be frightn'd at me . 2. Spirit . — Why ha'now , old Comrade ? What 's the meaning of this wealthy Posture ? Come , will ye give a Bag or two for old Acquaintance sake ? Suicide . — Why upon this Errand at such an unseasonable Hour ? You are come on purpose to give me a Visit : Are n't ye ? 2. Spirit . — Yes , we are so : And we hope your Entertainment will be suitable to Visitants ; especially , since we expect no more from you , than the Solution of a few Questions . Suicide . — Pray , What are they ? I 'll oblige ye , if I can . 2. Spirit . — What Apprehensions have Mankind , when they see this Airy Vehicle that you assume every Night ? Whether is the Spectacle pleasant through the Novelty of it , or dismal for want of understanding it . Suicide . Mankind has very different Apprehensions of me : Some , when they see me , run stark mad immediately . Others come on purpose swearing , all 's Delusion , a Cheat , or an Imposition on the Senses ; and when they see us , won't believe their Eyes ; only sometimes we have particular Commissions to undeceive 'em , with a witness . A Third Sort , a little wiser than both , keep s● much Presence of Mind as to see us , and troop off quietly , with their Hair bolting up an end . But here and there are a very few that have more adequate Conceptions of us , and neither seek nor flee our Company , knowing that we Souls and Spirits have no more Power over 'em in Bodies , than we have out ; and that whatever Power we have at any time is only lent us , and also limitted , and not to be extended when and where we please . So that we are really no more in our own Nature and Power , than what their Fancy makes us . Thus Reason secures some against us ; and Religion a very few , who can master all the little Suggestions of Fear by their Faith. 2. Spirit . — Very well . — Next , Why do ye thus hanker after a rotten , putrifying Body ; chusing that Shape that it once bore , before all others ? Suicide . — Because I was turn'd out of doors by violence , without so much as taking my Leave of it , or its bidding me Farewell . — And cou'd I quietly brook such an abrupt , hasty Separation from a Comrade , I had been so intimate with for near Seventy Years ? What tho' it was deaf to my Counsels and Reasonings , yet it was my other Part ; and as before Incorporation I found my self imperfect , but half an Entity , now I am so again , and shall be , till I am re-united to my old Companion . But this is all R●ddle to you , who have ●ot yet known how Souls act in Bodies , how the Intellect conceives Ideas of Material Objects by the Senses . Did you but know how the Visive Power conveys the Similitude of the Thing seen to the Soul , you 'd wish to be incorporate , tho' it were in one single Eye : How much more when you 'd have all the Senses to command ? When you 'd have a whole Microcosin to rule in , like a Deity ? Now , after all this , Which of you wou'd not love the Remembrance of such an Union , and imitate it , till the time of Re-union renders ye a perfect , compleat Being again ? Quest. But what was the Reason of your sudden Separation from the Body ? Answ. The Body being part of my self , I was willing to gratifie it as far as I cou'd , even to a Weakness ; which I continu'd so long , till it grew habitual , and I lost my Command , fixing my Happiness upon wrong Objects , viz. the little Concerns of the World ; which bearing no Analogy or Proportion to the Greatness of a Soul , caus'd an Uneasiness . 'T is incongruous to try Sounds by the Taste , they being the only proper Objects of the Ear. There is no Object for the Soul , but God ; a● appears by its Rest when fix'd on him , and Uneasiness every where else . And thus I , by the Importunity of my Body , and the Defectibility of just Perception , expecting Happiness where it was not to be had , grew impatient under the Disappointment , even to Strangling , to be rid of the Burden . 2. Spirit . — Alas , unfortunate Brother ! We can do no more than pity thee , and own our Obligations for these Discoveries . — Farewell . DIALOGUE VIII . Between Two Spirits , the Order of Vegitable Souls , and Cupid . 1. Sp. — WEll , What News , Brother ? 2. Sp. — The strangest Adventure you ever heard of . Cupid having Commission to distract some body in the other World , as he fled down he miss'd his Way , and rambl'd into our Regions ; where the Order of Vegitables are pillaging the little Wag of his Bow and Quiver , and pretend to cure him of his Blindness . 1. Sp. — Let 's away to see the Humour on 't : I believe the arch Knave will put a Trick upon 'em all , and come off with flying Colours . Cupid . — Nay , but , Gentlemen Spirits , pray be civil . — What 's the meaning of this ? Vegit. — The meaning on 't is , that since you have found the way into our Quarters , we have a Mind to hinder your Pranks here ; we have no need to be fool'd and plagu'd , as the Inhabitants are both in Heaven and Earth ( if we may believe the Poets . ) Cupid . — By me ? Vegit. — Yes , by you . And what can we expect from one that bewitches his own Mother with Adenis , Anchises ? &c. You know nothing ( I 'll warrant you ) of Endymion , Hyacinthus , the Adulter●us Net , and a Thousand more such things : Do you ? Nor can Iupiter himself escape you , but down goes his Target and Thunderbolts , and away to Taw and Push-Pin with Ganynede : Sometimes he 's Metaphoriz'd into Gold , now a Swan , then a Bull ▪ anon a Shepherd , and so on , according as your Whimseys dictate , whilst the Government of the World lies at Sixes and Sevens , and he that has the longest Nails and Teeth is the best Entity . And when your Caprices and Magots are surfeited with Aetherial Amours , away ye troop to the Earth , where you ●ye a Prince to a Stage-player , and a Princess to a ●oot-boy , or else plague Equality by Desparation of Enjoyment ; laughing at the poor Wretches , to see 'em covetous of their Misfortunes . Wherefore we conclude it necessary for our own Peace , and out of pity to our Neighbouring Worlds , to dis-arm you of your Power , and cure that Blindness which makes you shoot thus at all Adventures . Cupid . 'T is a strange thing ( Gentlemen Souls ) why I , having a Bow and Quiver , ( as if no Body else us'd neither , ) must upon necessity be the God of Love , and sentenc'd so to be by those who confess they never saw me before . A great Rashness , certainly , for the Wisdom of your Order , to be guilty of ! But , to put you out of all doubt , assure your selves , I am a Spirit , as ye are ; only with this disference , I have suffer'd a Dissolution from a Body , and ye are yet unbodied . Time was , I actuated that famous Scythian , Pomaxathres , that slew the great Roman , Marcus Crassus ; and was accounted the best Archer that Scythia ever boasted of . Now , hearing that one Sagittarius , a Resident of these Regions , was fam'd in that Art , I came on purpose to create a Correspondence , and try the Skill of the Heavenly Archer . Vegit. — Well , is this be so , and you are that Pomaxathres , we beg your Pardon for our Errour , and think our selves happy in the Mistake . — Sagit●ari●s sur passes in this Art , never making his Butts less than ten Degrees distant . — Do ye see that Milky Way there , so much talk'd on by the Poets ? His Shafts have scour'd that Road by their frequent Motion , and have kept that part of the Sky clear from dark Matter , and Excrements of Stars ; which is the reason of its Albitude : But the Lower World , like Fools , not knowing so much , do fancy it to be the Way for the Souls of the Blessed to mount to Paradice . — Come , let 's be gone ; we 'll quickly introduce ye into Sagitarius's Acquaintance . Cupid . — I long to meet the Artist , that we might give you some Divertisement by our Skill . — But , pray , which is the Way to the Lower World ? Vegit. — You must leave Venus on the Left , and so to 19 Degrees , 30 Minutes of Capricorn ; afterwards the Coast is clear , and divided into Right Lines to all parts of the Globe . Cup. — Farewell , Gentlemen ; I 'm in haste now , I 'll call again some other time . Vegit. — And is the Impostor gone ? Certainly he was Cupid . Why were we so bewitch'd as to believe him ? Cou'd we think the God of Love cou'd speak Truth , when all his Subjects are given to Lying . DIALOGUE IX . Between an Astrologer and a Mountebank . Mount. — WHich way with your Circumferences , Compasses , Figures : &c. Ha! What Project 's on foot now ? Astr. — To survey the Stars , and take a Note on the Influences written on their Foreheads . Mount. — Why so ? Astr. — I 'm sure I shall be an Astrologer , and 't is good to make Collections against I have need of 'em : I have a strong Fancy that I shall be the Prophet of Europe . If I 'd been imbody'd but Twenty or Thirty Years since , I had been the Second Lilly , or , at least , his Successor . — But if , after all , I shou'd forget what I now do in this Pre existent State , I shall be hardly put to it , about the Fate of Great People , the Change of Wind and Weather , Sweet-hearts , Losses , Travels , Life , Death , and every thing else , unless you 'll keep Correspondence with me . Mount. — Ay indeed , such a Correspondence wou'd make you famous ; but I 've just receiv'd a Commission to take Possession of an Embryo , fated for a Mountebank : So that I can serve you in nothing , but by giving you Information of the Death of those he designs to kill . Astr. — That will be something : But what shall I do for the rest ? Mount. — As the rest of your Neighbours do : Guess at what 's most probable . Astr. — Then I shall be mistaken sometimes . Mount. — 'T is your Interest you shou'd , or you 'd be Arraign'd for a Wizard . Astr. — 'T is hard such an exquisite Skill and Death shou'd be Rivals . But is there no way else to escape the Fagot , and be famous ? Mount. — Yes , as Licens'd Way , as we have to kill People . Astr. Pray , what 's that ? Mount. — Bring other Persons into a Confederacy with you , who design , near such a Time , to Plot , Fight , Marry , Sail , Masquerade , or any thing else that is to be done ; and then fall on Prophesying : But you must be very confident , and remember a great many Authors Names , ( no matter for their Works , ) the pretended Influences of the Stars , and Examples of the Wonders you have perform'd , and other Measures suitable to the blind Side of the Enquirer . And if you can but Rhime , like young Lilly o'er his Pills , your Custom grows as thick as Hops , and you may lye in Bed and gather ' em . Astr. — Now I 'm stock'd indeed , to 〈◊〉 three quarters o' th' Town . But won't my present Collections also be useful ? Mount. — Yes , if 't were possible to remember ; but the Clog of Humanity depresses the Vigour of our Faculties , and makes 〈◊〉 quite different Beings : So that what I 've 〈◊〉 you now , must be repeated in the other World , and that will be sufficient , with goo● Management . Astr. — I 'm satisfy'd . But what will yo● do to be as famous as he that came lately ( al● at one time , I think 't was ) from all the Cour● in Christendom , into this part of the Globe ju●● under us ? You know who I mean , the Sta●● tell 〈◊〉 ; I can't forbear trying my Faculty . Mount. — Right : I was a great Familiar with his Soul , before Adam and Eve went to Bed together . About 2593 Years since , he was for going into a young Crispin ; and I very hardly dissuaded him , by telling him , his Mistriss wou'd be skill'd in Palmestry , and read his Pass into another World through his own Styrrup-Leather . Astr. — A kind Disappointment . But what 's this to the Question I ask'd ? Mount. — Well , he 's a famous Mountebank now , and cures every thing that he fails not in ; and when he misses , he cannot lose his Reputation , for he lest that behind him in Italy , where it starv'd to death . Astr. — How came he to be so famous then ? Mount. — E'en as you must ; by Confederacy , thus , The Lyar that he makes use of , to roar about the Stage , and tie the unthinking Multitude together , having got a credulous Patient , takes the silly Thing by the Hand , to that Corner of the Stage where the Curtain hangs , and the list'ning Doctor behind it ; — and then he begins to examine what Grievance ? Where ? How long ? and such other like Questions as are for his purpose . Whereupon the Doctor draws off at a distance , and the Patient is introduc'd ; to whom he tells every thing , like an Oracle , without any Questions , receives his Fees , and sets a little longer time ( for such a desperate Cure ) than he designs to tarry . And so he deals with the whole Generation of Adam , to the latter end of the Chapter . — There are a Thousand other handy Ways of killing People , and getting their Moneys for 't , but 't is not for my Interest to make 'em publick , lest the World shou'd be convinc'd against I set up , and stone me , amongst the rest of my honest Fellow Travellers . DIALOGUE X. Between Two Spirits , about the Retrogradation of the Dragon's Head and Tail. 1. Sp. — DID you he●● of the Dragon 's Frolick ? 2. Sp. — Not I : I have been upon the Ramble these three Days , I am but just now arriv'd in this Region , and am going to tell my Landlord Aquarius , that I have no design to bilk my Lodging . But , pray , what'is this Frolick you talk of ? 1. Sp. — The Dragon's Tail taking it ill to come always behind , grew very importunate to lead the Head for one Day ; and the Head being tyr'd out with continual Sollicitations , agreed to be led : According the Tail set forward , and began his Journey ; but wanting Eyes . soon mistook his Course , and rambled to the Borders of his Regions , where he fell down , and light upon Aquarius's Water-pots ; which flew with such a Noise , that the lower World thought it a Clap of Thunder . Pisces being the next Sign , ( and peeping above Water , to learn what strange Motion that was ) cry'd out to his two Fishes to secure themselves , for the Leviathan was upon the Scamper for Prey . The Dragon ( which he thought to be the Leviathan ) being so bruis'd with the Fall , began to repent of his Retrograde Journey ; for his Head , by such a Motion , got the Vertigo , and dizzy Drunkenness , his Body was cut by the Pitchers , besides the Abuses the unfortunate Traveller light on from the Inhabitants of that Region ; who taking him for a Monster , began to surround him , maulling him with the Beam of Libra , and the Fragments of the Pitchers , without asking Questions , or taking the Legal Procedure against him for the supposed Invasion . 2 Sp. This Account is surprizing , especially being so near my Lodging . Methinks this wou'd be very proper for Application , if the Story was told in the lower world , where Reason is postpon'd to Sense , and the ill Consequences seldom taken Notice of , till the whole Man is shipwrack'd and lost ; — But what became of the Dragon ? 1 Sp. — Nature finding her work imperfect , without the re-assumption of the fallen Wretch into his place , and that the whole Generation of Astrologers wou'd be at a loss in their Observations , order'd the Dragon to be put into the one of Libra's Scales , and a Weight into the other , sufficient to mount him up into his own Region ; which was accordingly done ; where , being arrived , he set head foremost , and swore by all the Planets he wou'd never be rul'd by his Tail again . — The Tail being asham'd of its Miscarriage , hid it self betwixt the Legs , which is the Reason that the little Stars in 't disappear'd , when Archimedes thought to have found 'em at the end of his Telescope . DIALOGUE XI . Between a Spirit and his Friend , lately Imbodied in an Infant . Spir. — WHat have you forgot your old Companion ? or are you asleep as well as your Body ? Friend . — Who 's that ? Spi. — Your late Friend A ; — when we parted , you desir'd me to pay you a Visit in your new Lodgings ; and you knew I was always punctual at an Assignation , where Friendship was the Motive : I long to know what Entertainment you have light on , what Liberties you enjoy , or what Confinements you lie under , that I may take an Estimate thereby what I have to trust to when my Turn comes . Fr. — To give a Journal of my Entertainment , will be just the same Satisfaction that a Criminal has when he is no longer perplex'd betwixt Hope and Despair ; but is assur'd he shall be hang'd ; but you are not deny'd the Criminal's Comfort , to wit , Company : But not to detain you from Particulars , when I parted with you , I immediately shot into the Embryo I told you of , as swift as a Falling Star , and before I was aware , I was dispers'd through the whole Lump ; not a Finger or Toe but I was busie in 't , as the hasty Heir is amongst his Coffers and Leases when his Father 's a dying ; but as to my first Motion , I thought 't was just like a half-drown'd Fly , when the Sun begins to shine upon it , which first puts out a Leg , then a Wing , and so by degrees gathers Motion , till it presumes upon its own strength , and new Adventures ; so I , first a Knee , then an Elbow , then a Heel , and so on , till I grew so troublesom a Guest , that my Mother cry'd out for help , to be shut on me ; & so by a Writ of Ejection dispossess'd me of my warm Tenement , and turn'd me out into the wide world , naked , helpless , and full of Tears : But then began the Plague of Dependance , and the Date my Misfortunes ; for you will find when you come into a Body , that a Soul does sympathize , and receive an Impression of Pleasure or Pain , according to the resentment of the Senses , & vice versa , the Body participates in the Ease or Disturbance of the Soul. I am now but just six weeks old , and methinks 't is longer than the Six Thousand Years of my Pre-Existence ; for I 'm horribly bus'd Night and Day . 'T is said , The Ape is ●o very tender of her young ones , that she frequenty hugs them to death ; but my Nurse only mocks me with such a Kindness ; for when she has almost strangled me for want of Breath , she recovers me to strangle me again . And if I Itch or Smart , am swadled too straight or too loose , am hungry , or over-cramb'd . 't is all one ; for I 've no way to declare my grievance , but by sprawling , making a foul face , or exercising my treble Organs , and that does not avail me neither ; for I 'm only look'd upon to be peevish , and out of humour whether this Usage will kill me , or whether I shall weather it out to abide worse , I know not : But this I know , That if I was to begin my Pre-existent State again , I 'd take heed of such extravagant Rambles as cou'd be att●n'd by no less a Penance than such an Incorporation . Sp. — If you find such Penance for Pre-existent Extravagances , alas what will become of me , who am in ten times deeper than you ; the foot of my Account will be amazing , when your small Debt has such sever●● Exactions . Fr. — I don't know that , but pray withdraw ; here comes the Nurse to beslabber 〈◊〉 with Caudle ; if she finds the Body without me , and unactive , the House will be all in 〈◊〉 uproar , and my new Companion will be lai● out , and starv'd to death ; and I dread ● second Change , remembring the old Pro● verb , — Seldom comes a better . DIALOGUE XII , Between the whole Order of Rational Souls , and Two Intelligencers from the other World. Order . — WHat , more Complaints still ? Shall we be for ever plagu'd with Repetitions of the harsh Reception our Fraternity find below ? — Here , — Who are the Friends of the Parties incorporate ? Stand forth , and declare your Grievance . 1 Intell. — A great Intimate of mine , and a Member of our Order , is unfortunately ty'd to a Fidler , who runs eternal Divisions , to the great Curse of every Visitant's Ear ; never considering , that what delights him , may be a great Mortification to another . — One of his Acquaintance the other Day , being tir'd with a Whimsey , on Green Sleeves and Pudding-Pyes , ( an Air well known to the Musical Tribe in that Globe , ) began to be free with him , telling him what he thought of his Entertainment ; and in Conclusion , broke his Crowd and Fiddle-stick . Order . — Perhaps he might deserve it . But how cou'd the Soul ( your Friend ) suffer by that Accident ? 1. Intell. — I ask'd my Friend this very Question ; and he answer'd , — That tho' by a Habitude of Incorporation he began to love the Body , yet he was so much afraid of Violence , ( being a Party , ) that he try'd all the Windows of his Tenement , to make an Escape ; but coming to the Ear , he heard the welcome Sound of Impose less on your Friends , and so farewell . My Friend thinking the Storm was over , began to love the Ear for the welcome News he heard in 't , tho' indeed 't was the most frequent part of Residence that my Friend had in the whole Material Fabrick . — He had not tarry'd long there , but he was summon'd to tune another Fiddle ; but the Chamber-door was first lock'd , and no Fidler was at home for more Visitants : So away they went to work ; the Fidler with his Fingers , Wry Mouth , and other antick Gestures ; and my Friend , according to his Office of Perception , judg'd of Measure and Proportions . And having tun'd that also into the usual Concordance , a Mournful Ditty was to be compos'd , and set , to bewail the unhappy Abuse of his Wooden Apollo ; not considering that the bare Remembrance of a Disgrace is afflicting to any body , but one that carries his Soul in his Ears . Now , my Friend being ignorant what Distance lay between b flat and b sharp , or how much a Lesser Third differ'd from a Greater Sixth , was not so able as willing to assist his Comrade in the Composure : Who thereupon rag'd , swore , grew distracted , and out of Revenge , has cruelly confin'd my Friend to the cold Prison of his Fiddle , where he uses to visit him two or three times a Night ; allowing no better Converse , than the doleful Accents of Mad Tom o'Bedlam . Order . — This Account is Argument dismal enough to add to our Litany , From Fidlers , Libera nos , Domine . But who 's the second Complainant ? What has he to say ? 2. Intell. — A Race of — Order . — Of what ? 2. Intell. — Of — I dare not mention the ugly Name , for fear it brings a Distraction amongst us , and the very Malignity of the Sound infect us with the Fatality of its Heresies . — But if a general dark Character will satisfie , 't is unwillingly ready . Order . — Certainly it can't be much worse than the Accounts we have already . Let 's have the full , particular Relation . 2. Intell. — Well , since ye are so covetous of what ye will repent , take it . — A Society of Virtuosoes , in which a Friend of mine has lately commen●'d , and for which I 'm sure he 'll be damn'd , has bewitch'd the other World with fruitless Discourses , unprofitable Disputes , needless Digressions , of Posse , Esse , Quiddity , Predicament , and a Thousand such Sounds ; by which they have lost their own Reason , and despoil'd their Followers of theirs too . They will make every thing disputable , so much as the Pre-Existence of Souls : Nay , they 'll not believe the Existence of a Deity , if their Antagonist proves it not by a Syllogism , in Mood and Figure . Two and Three is not Five amongst them , without a Consequence from just Premises . A certain Heretick Pedant the other Day maintain'd a Vacuum , and proselyted a simple Country Gentleman by such seeming Reasons , as he wanted Sense to confute . — One of 'em , as I was inform'd , was this , — It wou'd be ridiculous to think , that when a Gnat pushes back a parcel of Air with its Wings , that parcel drives another before it , and that another ; and so the stirring of the Little Toe of a Flea shou'd raise a Bunch upon the Back of the Universe . The unthinking Plebeian having long wish'd Suicide no Murder , because his Mistresses Unkindness made him weary of his Life , straightway retir'd out of the Assembly , and thank'd his pitying Genius for providing a way to cure his Melancholy , viz. by the help of a Vacuum ; resolving to lay the Fault upon Nature in the Day of Judgment , that he was accidentally in a place , where he cou'd not live any longer , for want of Breath . Whereupon he immediately made and executed his Last Will and Testament , and took his Leave of all his Friends . — And , in order to find out a Vacuum , he caus'd all his Blunderbusses , Guns and Musquets to be laid over a Gate , ready to discharge ; and behind 'em , two of his Servants , well mounted , with a hanging Carpet between 'em , with so much Lead at the bottom as to keep it tight and perpendicular ; and thus , having wish'd Happiness to his fair Tormenter , he order'd the Pieces to be fir'd , and his Servants ( to whom he had bequeath'd his Horses for this last Office of Friendship ) to set Spurs to their Legacies , and follow the scowr'd Road , he himself bringing up the Rear , and charging about for the Vacuum . But after he had almost run himself out of breath in a vain Pursuit of it , he retir'd to the Assembly of Virtu●s●●s , which was not yet broke up , saluting his Teacher by the Name of Mad-man , and Beggar of Questions . But the Virtuoso , to maintain his Credit , asserted that the Gentleman might have found the Vacuum if he had follow'd close up to the Carpet . Whereupon , another of the Gentleman's Acquaintance , resenting his Friend's Disgrace , order'd the same Trial again , resolving to keep up close to the windy Engine , to prove the Assertion a Falsity ; but he , to keep Ground , ran himself out of breath , and fell down dead : Which Accident upheld the Credit of the Vacuum . Another wou'd prove , That a small Thread , which was equally twisted , and all of the same Matter , wou'd sustain a greater weight than a Cable Rope that was unequally twisted . To prove which , he offer'd this Reason , That being all of a strength , it had no place to break first . A little School-Boy that stood by , wish'd his Father had known that Secret before his Ship-wreck . It had been all one , ( reply'd another of his Form-fellows ; ) for ▪ the Thread wou'd have broke close by the Ship , by reason of the Additional Weight of the rest of the Thread . In like manner , if the Thread hang'd in a perpendicular Line , with a Weight at the End of it , it wou'd break at the Upper End , because the Lower End wou'd not bear so much Weight as the Upper End , by the Weight of the Thread . Nay , Suppose the Thread laid upon a Level , and extended beyond its strength ; having no place to break first , it must break in all places at once : For if Particulars cannot act beyond their Power , Generals cannot ; both coming under one Predicament . Three Quarters of the Auditory cou'd not understand the Boy , who therefore was whipp'd for his Sawciness and Interruption . So that that Orator also sate down with his Credit . A Third stood up , and , without pretending to prove any thing , drove all the Auditory out of the little Wit they had left , by asking , Whether there may not be an Infinity of Worlds , this Globe being not so big as those above ? Whether this World might not be made out of the Ruins of a preceding Old One ? Whether these Globes may not be the Excrements of the Sun ? Whether it might not be better for the next Generation to be taught to go upon All Four , for several good Reasons that might be given ? Whether the Representatives of Nature's Pudenda were not a more proper Badge of Honour to wear at a Cavalier's Girdle , than a Sword ; since this is a Mark of Death , and that of Life ? Whether this Tuft of Grass ( pulling one out of his Pocket ) may not be a Man within these Sixty Years ? Whether , if it were possible for one Man to imitate another in all his Members , Motions and Gestures , that Imitator should not , by Equality of Organs , be susceptive of the other's Thoughts and Inclination ? Whether an Eternity of Matter is disputable ? Whether the Souls of Men are Pre-existent , or Contemporary with the Body ? Whether it is not a great Absurdity to attribute to a Vacuity that Quality of Yielding to a Body , and that Space which are the Dependencies of an Extent , which can only agree to a Substance ? Whether — Order . — Hold : No more Whethering in Virtuocisin . Poor Earth ! Alas , What Entertainment can we expect in thee ? We shall be sweetly brought to Bed if Virtuocism finds encouragement , and propagates till there 's no other Trade for us to take up with . Hasten our Spindles , dear Parcae , whilst there are some Infidels , and Opposers of these Doctrines . DIALOGUE XIII . Between the Spirits of an Emperor and a Beggar . Beggar . — 'T IS enough for Humanity , that knows no better , to be Noisie Querulous , and arraign the Justice of Fate , and the wise dispensation of Providence , who fits not the particular Chain of Causes to the private humour of this or that Party ; but respects the universal Good at once : hence I am satisfied , the despicable Post assign'd me , is wisely dispos'd , and ought to be accepted with gratitude , since 't is inconsistent with the goodness of the Divine Being , to make a general Good incompatible with a particular one ; whence it is also plain , that I may be happy in my Station . But was I to chuse , and knew not what Fate had ordain'd me , I 'd be an Emperor at least ; How full of Charms is it to imitate the Divine Original of Beings , to see whole Kingdoms depend upon me , to be encompass'd with eternal Heads of Nakedness ; to have the power of exalting one , and debasing another ; of rewarding Vertue , and punishing Vice ; of disposing of Life and Death ; in short , to be an Earthly God. Now must I suffer Affronts and Abuses , without the power of Revenge , to stoop , and acknowledge my dependance to almost every Being . Alas , what 's the meaning of that Providential Riddle , That Man is the Lord of the world ; That Beast , Fish and Fowl are his , when there 's so many Rivals-that the Title is lost , and one part of Humanity can pretend so little to a propriety in Rule ; That the same Predicament serves for us , and those things we are said to be Lords of ? Man disposes of Man as he doe's of a Beast , even to exchanging , selling , and Slavery . Methinks it is unaccountable ; since all are out of the same Dust , stamp'd with the same Impression , equal in their Nothingness , both à parte ante , and à parte post . Nay their very Souls which animate these grosser Vehicles , are also equal , only acting differently , by a more or less aptitude of Organs , or inequality of Education . Emperor . — Tho' we Spirits fell not when the Angels did ; yet we have certainly the same defectibility of Judgment ; for two things ( especially Opposites ) cannot be both best . Call you a Beggar 's Condition despicable and slavish ? 'T is certainly the happiest Post in the Creation ; and were it possible for Fate to be guilty of a Caprice , and cast Lots once more about the Disposals of Emperors and Beggars , I 'd petition to renew my Chance ; possibly I might the second time alter my Condition , and come out a happy Beggar . Beggar . — Why so ? Emperor . — Becasue there appears to me a greater happiness in an unenvied Cottage , than in the Noisie Crowds of Flatterers . Little does the Plebeian know how heavy a Crown weighs ; how great the Trust is , and how hard to be managed . 'T is the Court that 's full of Treachery , Ambition , Pride , Bribes , and such a dreadful Catlaogue of Vices , that 't is impossible for the best of Men to arrive to a greater degree of Goodness there , than a Negation of Evil. The Watch must be kept so strictly , that there 's no time to act virtuously . But in the retir'd Solitudes of Poverty , one Third of our Temptations are lost , the uneasiness of the Sense , causes a search after the quiet of the Mind . We have nothing to resist in Solitude ▪ , but a few stragling Thoughts ; nor nothing to seek after , but to be happy . There we are free from publick Calamities : and private Enemies , unenvy'd in every thing but Happiness ; and 't is impossible to steal that from us , when we have nothing else to do but to keep it : Nay , if we shou'd communicate it , we lose nothing , but have more by giving . I cou'd reckon up Augustus , Dioclesian , Maximinian , Vatius , Emped●cles , &c. who laid by their Scepters for Spades ; and cou'd also mention how happy the Change was ; but the remembrance wou'd make my Crown too uneasie , which now I must bear as well as I can . Beggar . — 'T is in vain to wish on either side what can't be avoided . But , say Brother , won't the Case be strangely alter'd by our different Stations in the other World ? — Methinks I see you sometimes royally seated amongst the Representatives of your Kingdom , sometimes in private Council , turning over the Cabala , or darker Mysteries of State , but always look'd upon as more than mortal . Methinks I also see my self injur'd and over-pow'rd by the Mint of Damnation , and my Addresses to your Highness , by Friends or Petition , in agitation ; Methinks I see my cold reception , the Meanness of my Concerns lost amongst Matters of greater Moment , and my Importunity for a Dispatch , answer'd by the Insolences of a hundred subordinate Officers ; one denies me admittance , another turns me out , and every one looks upon me an impertinent , worthless Thing , because I left all my Nobility and Attendance behind me among the Stars . Emperor . — By this you may in some measure judge of the distracted Cares of a Crown ; how amongst these numerous Complaints , Petitions , &c. 't is impossible to hear and redress all , time won't permit , and Omnipresence is not confer'd to Earthly Scepters , to act every where , and every thing at once : Think●y ' it not afflicting to a Father to see many of his Children strugling under Unhappinesses , and whilst he relieves some , others perish ; and also that he has many more under the same Circumstances , that he knows not of . Beggar . — Enough ; let 's not think so much on the Evils of Humanity , as to lose the sense of that little Good of which it is capable ; Not to be happy in some things , because we can't in every thing , is an unkind Theft to our selves . Compare the Distractions of other Crowns to yours , whilst I examine whose Cottage is meaner than mine ; and this ( with other like Inferences , ) will divert the black Reflections we have made ; An earthly Philosopher could say , Nemo Miser nisi comparatus . Come , let 's not learn of the World below us , but give them Examples . We can't miss , if we retire to our Region ; for there being nothing but Equality , 't is impossible any one shou'd pretend to be more happy or miserable than another . DIALOGUE XIV . Between Two Spirits that made a Contract to keep a Correspondence , whoever came to be Embodied first . The Unbodied Spirit . — CErtainly he can understand now I have assum'd this Body of Air. — Holo Brother — I have been calling these two hours to no purpose Do you hear me now ? Bodyed Spirit . — Hear ye ! Yes ; who are ye ? And what 's your Business ? Unbody'd Sp. — What , Have you forgot me your old Comrade , and your Contract ? Has this Lump of Humanity spoil'd all your Faculties , or are you ungrateful , or over-proud of your new Lodging ? Body'd Sp. — I don't know what you mean by Forgetfulness , or Contract . Unbody'd Sp. — That 's very strange : I 'm certain , This is the Body you were to animate , and by consequence , ●ou must be the same Individual that agreed with me to keep a Correspondence , when you came into this Body . I had forgot my self , and have been all this time speaking to you in the Language of Spirits , not knowing it was too fine for the Perceptions of an Organiz'd Body . Body'd Sp. — By this you 'd make me believe a Pre-existent State of Souls before they come into the Body : But if there be such a State , I have wholly forgot it ; only I have some dark Ideas of things when they are mention'd that I never saw nor heard of before ; which probably may proceed from the Cognizance I took of 'em before I was imbody'd . Unbody'd Sp. — That 's no Argument at all ; since that Idea gives you n●ither the Species , nor the Form of the Thing spoken of , if neither be mention'd ; as for Instance , If I shou'd tell you in general Terms , That at the West-end of the Vatican at Rome , there 's a curious Picture ; you wou'd presently form an Idea of it in your Mind ; but perhaps it may be a Saint , instead of a Land-skip : but to pass over that , have you any Idea of the Language of Spirits ? Body'd Sp. — None but such as is Organical . Unbody'd Sp. — By this you may see your Errour again ; for Spirits speak one to another , as Man does , when he speaks to God in his Mind . Again , Man's Voice is limited ; I mean , when he speaks , he is not heard but at such a distance ; but when one Spirit speaks , all the Thousand Millions of Spirits , where-ever dispers'd throughout the Creation , have a di●stinct perception of such Speech , if directed to them all at once ; or if directed to any one Spirit , be he never so far off , he only hears ; and not one of all those that are betwixt him and the Speaker ; so that 't is as ordinary a thing for Spirits to converse one with another at the most protracted distances , as 't is face to face ; but this is only to your Capacity ; for there 's no such a thing as distance amongst Spirits ; for they are as near one another , when the whole Coelum Empyreum is betwixt 'em , as they are when both together , and yet they are not like God , every where at once , or omnipresent . Body'd Sp. — This is strange Doctrine to Mortals ; — pray' how do Spiris move ? whether locally by a Medium , or in an instant , or in Time , or how ? Unbody'd Sp. — None of all this — for what is impartible , is not moveable ; for , according to Humane Philosophy , ( which holds in this Case , ) any thing that is moving , whilst it is moving , is partly in termino a quo , and partly in termino ad quem ; which is inconsistent with Impartibility . Nor can a Spirit move so , as to pass through a Medium : As for Instance , To go from London to Rome , or Constantinople , without passing over the distance , or places betwixt 'em : Now every thing that passes , passes through a place equal to it self , ( as suppose through Air , Water , &c. the place that the Body is in , is equal to the Body which fills it . ) But the place equal to an Indivisible Spirit , ( speaking ad Humanum Captum ) is a Point ; and therefore if an Angel or Spirit , by his Motion , passes through a Medium , he must necessarily pass through or number many Points in termino ad quem ; which is impossible . To speak yet nearer the Common Apprehension of Mortals , a Man may in his Mind think of France , and then immediately of Syria , without thinking of Italy , which is the Medium , betwixt both : And this comes nearest the Motion of Spirits ; now whether this Motion is effected in Time , or in an Instant . ( As thus , When God Almighty commissionated an Angel to go and appear to Manoah , whether in coming from Heaven he might be a Day , an Hour , or a Minute ; or whether he was there in the same unsuccessive Moment wherein he receiv'd the Commission . ) To this we answer in respect of Men , who are ty'd up to the gross Rules of Time , Place , Matter , &c. There was a Flux of Time betwixt the Receipt of the Commission , and the Execution of it : But in respect of the Nature of Angels , the Receipt of their Commission , the Execution of it , and a Thousand Years after the Execution of it , were all included in one Unsuccessive Now : The Reason of it is this , If there were a Time for the Beginning of an Action , and another Time for the Ending of it , then there wou'd be Succession , and by consequence Partibility ; but that 's inconsistent ( as above ) with the Nature of an Indivisible Being , as an Angel or a Spirit are . Body'd Spirit . But supposing Motion , Time , Place , &c. to be attributed to Angels and Spirits , in respect to Mankind , as really they are : As it may be said , A Spirit is in such a Place now , and was not two Hours since . Supposing ( I say ) such a way of speaking , in reference to Mankind , how is it feasible for a Spirit , a Witch , &c. to be so , orto go through the Key-hole of a Door ? Unbody'd Spirit . Well , allowing such a Condescention , ad Humanum Captum , yet 't is a vulgar Errour . First , As to Witches : They never do it , 't is their Spirits , and they● ( I mean ●heir Bodies and Animal Life ) are all the while ●n an Examinated Trance , wherein the Devil ●oes make use of their Fancy , to inform them of what passes at a distance in those Aerial Bo●ies that resemble them , and in which their ●pirits really are : As Mankind want not ma●y Instances of such Truths . A Spirit 's pas●●ng through a Key-hole is absurdly ridiculous ; or since Matter is not determinative on Spi●●ts , 't is all one to them to pass through Gold , ●lass , or the most Continuous Solidities in Na●●re , as to pass through Air only . So that ●hen a Spirit assumes an Aerial Body , since 〈◊〉 it self is Matter , or a Body , and since ●ere can't be Penetration of Bodies , it follows , at a Spirit which is to go through Glass , one , &c. leaves the Aerial Body which it 〈◊〉 , and only passes through the Glass , Stone , &c. in its own Nature , and assumes a new● Body of Air on the other side ; and here also may be a Solution of those strange Riddles , ( for so they are to some Mortals , ) how a Witch receives the Wound in the same Part , in which the Aerial Representation of her receiv'd it . As for Instance ; A Fallen Angel prompts a Witch to afflict such a Person : She consents ; and being under this Angel's power , he makes use of natural Methods , so as to invert the ordinary Operation of her Animal Powers , ( as above , ) that she falls into a Trance , insensible of Burns , Cuts , &c. Now this wicked Angel having a permissive Possession of her Spirit , forms a Body of Air for it , organiz'd and fit for Perception , in which it assaults and afflicts th● Person design'd : But in all the Instances that Mankind can bring of such Aerial Representations that have been struck at , whether in Humane or Brutal Shape , the Persons that struck never felt that they hit any thing but Air ; which is a certain Evidence that 't was not the true Body of what it represented . Now , this wicked Angel being present with the Witch's Spirit , and taking notice where , and what the Wound wou'd have been , had it been a real Body , amongst other the Occurrences that he represents to the Witch's Fancy , he insinuates the Wound , and at the same time inflicts it himself upon the real Part of the Body which was representatively cut or wounded in the Phantasm ; the Witch all the time believing the whole to be a real Truth , and acted personally . Body'd Spirit . Possibly 't is so . But , Pray , is there a Number of Spirits , or different Species amongst ' em ? Unbody'd Spirit . Humanely speaking , there 's Thousands of Thousands ; but in the Language of Spirits there 's no such a gross Term as Number ; for Number is a discrete Quantity , caus'd by a Division of Continuity : But this is inconsistent with the Nature of Spirits . — And as to Difference of Species , to which we might add Equality , or Inequality , they are Terms adapted to Matter ; and therefore amongst Immaterial Beings , 't is the most egregious Nonsence that can be imagin'd . Body'd Spirit . What 's the difference betwixt a Spirit 's Perception , and ours ? Unbody'd Spirit . A great deal , Men think , by means of the Senses . Suppose the Eye : First , There must be an Union betwixt the Sight , and the thing seen ; for Vision is not in Act , except the thing seen is after a certain manner in the thing seeing ; and this not by an Assumption of the Substance , but of the Similitude of the thing seen , into the Eye . Now this Visive Power having assum'd a Similitude of the thing seen into the Eye , the Intellect abstracts Universals from it ; which Act is call'd the Perception , and according to this Perception we judge and act . But 't is not so with Spirits , they have no Perception from divisible or sensible Objects ; for what by our Senses we know of Material Objects , that they know from the Ef●luviums of the Deity . As for Instance , God is the Cause of every Substance , both as to its Matter and Form ; therefore God , according to his Essence , ( which is the Cause of all things ) is the Similitude of all things . Hence Angels and Spirits , when they look upon God , do ( as in a Glass ) see and know all Material and Immaterial Objects and Things whatever , when he pleases to communicate a Knowledge : And thus it is that Departed Souls have Knowledge of things happening in this Life . Body'd Spirit . What 's the difference betwixt a Spirit 's Thoughts and Language , since you say that their Language is like our Thoughts ? Vnbody'd Spirit . I have already told you , that as Men have their Perceptions by means of their Senses , so Spirits have theirs from the immediate Emanations and Ideas of all things which they see originally in God : This is the manner of their Perception , and the making known this Perception , by directing the Result of it to one another , as Men do their Minds to themselves , when they speak to themselves internally , without Lip or Voice . This , I say , is the Language of Spirits ; which is as different from their Perceptions as the Act of Receiving and Communicating is amongst Men. Body'd Spirit . Whether do Spirits and Angels love , 〈◊〉 , are angry or pleas'd , &c. as Men are . Unb●dy'd Spirit . Not at all , 't is inconsistent with their Nature , these being Acts adapted to the Powers of the Sensitive Soul : So that when Speech , Love , Hate , Fear , Courage , Temper●nce , &c. are attributed to Angels or Spirits , 't is an 〈◊〉 , or a Condescention adapted to Humane Dialect . To Love amongst Spirits , is to wish Good to one another : To rej●yce , is to rest the Will in some good Habit : Temperance is a Moderation of the Will , according to the Rule of the Divine Will : Fortitude is a firm and resolute Execution of the Divine Will : And so of all other Concupiscible Powers . Body'd Spirit . Whether can several Spirits be in one plac● at the same time . Unbody'd Spirit . I have already told you , that Spirits know no such a thing as Place ; 't is as incongruous a Term to their Nature , as Time is . So that , what you call Place , is the same thing to them as no place ; and if so , Spirits , according to that Notion you have of Place , may be Five Millions together in a Quart● Bottle , and yet never a one fe there ; but 't is impossible to make you understand the munner how , farther than by a dark Similitude . Suppose Five Millions of Persons shou'd all desire at the same time to be upon the Top of the m●nument , , ( erected in Remembrance of the 〈◊〉 of the Fire of London : ) Now th●se Five Millions to be there at the 〈…〉 ) , without justling one another for ●oom● ▪ but thus only by Virtual Application of themselves thither . — I must be gone , there 's a General Ass●gnation of our Order to meet at the Musick of the Spheres , and if my Place be found empty , my Name will be dash'd out of the Catalogue , upon a Supp●sition that ● am imbody'd . Body'd Spirit . Well , I acknowledge my Obligations for this Favour : Pray , let me converse with you as oft as you can . It won't be long but I shall put off this Clog , and change Circumstances with you ; and then I 'll be as kind in informing you of such things as you will also forget when you come into a Body . DIALOGUE XV. Betwixt Two Spirits , about the Musick of the Spheres . 1. Sp. — I 'M weary with that drumming sort of Noise ; there 's nothing but an Eternal Din of one Tune , o'er and o'er . There 's better Musick , ten to one , every Bartholomew-Fair . 2. Sp. — Pray , let me ask you one Question : Is there any Musick better than the Original of all Musick ? 1. Sp. — No. 2. Sp. — Very well : Then since these Musical Diastems , and these harmonious Motions , which proceed from the different Positions and Heighths of the Planets , and the Correspondent Symmetry of the Heavens , are the first Original of Musick , all other Harmony which the lower World pretends to , are but Imitations of this great Original . So that those little tickling Fancies of Ionick , Dorick , Phrygian , and other Measures , are but a different way of Trial to come the nearest ours ; and if Mortality cou'd find out the true Spherical Musick , they wou'd never seek farther , nor alter it for any other , because 't is impossible to desire or chuse an Imperfection , when Perfection stands by . But 't is no wonder the World below us think the Musick of the Spheres a Fable , when one of our own Order shou'd undervalue it at such a rate . But perhaps you are of the same Opinion as Mankind , and these are only Words of Course , because you have a mind to be upon the Ramble . 1. Sp. Truly , I am not very well satisfied , whether I hear any thing , or no. 2. Sp. Yes , you hear , but without Concern ; which makes me believe , that you belong not to ours , but to the Animal Order , and in that Order you are design'd to animate an Ass , which , amongst all Creatures , never heeds Musick . You , and all Mankind , must grant , that the Planets move , and that Sound necessarily proceeds from Motion , and that this Sound must either be sweet or harsh : Now , if a fix'd Observation of Numbers moderate the Motion , it effects a Symphonous Harmony , consonant to such a Motion ; but if it be not govern'd by Measures , there proceeds an unpleasant Noise . But in this admirable Structure of the Heavens , there is nothing but setled Rules and Proportions , curious Differences of Magnitude , Celerity , and Local Distances , which are constantly circumagitated through the Etherial Orbs ; as in the following Figure . 'T is this Systeme that all Musicians imitate ; and those that come the nearest it , have made their Calculations from Arithm●tical Proportions , in which this last Age has exceeded all former ones , having now laid down Rules to reduce all Audibles into Visibles , or Visibles into Audibles ; that is , can give Directions for Building a House , agreeable to the Measures of a Musical C●mpo●●re ; or can play the Proportions of any ●ouse now built , upon a Musical Instrument . If Mankind ●earches a little deeper in the Music●l 〈◊〉 , they will find out a Device to imi●●●● our 〈◊〉 Musick by a voluntary Self-Motion , or frame Instruments that shall play themselves . 1. Sp. Say you so ? Indeed , the Novelty of that wou'd cost me many a Ramble . 2. Sp. But why love Musick on Earth , more than here ? 1. Sp. Because I find by my Heaviness , I am grown so like a Body , that I shall soon have such a Relation ; and you know 't is natural for all Beings to be affected with something like themselves : However , I 'll be sure ( if I can remember ) to inform the Lower World of the Reasonableness of Spherical Musick ; and what Measures they ought to take , to come as near it as possible . In the mean time , Farewell . 2. Sp. — Hold : If you design to visit the Lower World , you may be serviceable to 'em , if you put 'em in mind of using less Physick , and more Musick , since it alters all the Passions of the Mind , and is the readiest way to correct Grief , Anger , Pity , Love , Fears , Desires , and all other Passions of the Mind : And if the Mind may be thus regulated , their Physicians need not to be told how great an Influence it has upon the Body . Another Remark you may add , ( if you are like to find Credit , ) that 't is only the Musick of the Spheres that keeps Angels and Spirits in a perpetual Health . DIALOGUE XVI . Between Two Spirits of a poor Doctor , his Friend , and a modern Philosopher , alias , Sharper . Debtor . BAnkrup●y ! Oh the dreadful Sound is sufficiently confoundative without the thing it self ; a Dun to my Breakfast every Morning , and to play at Hide all day long for fear of the Counter-Verm●n ; and all this too , ( if Fare knows what 's what , ) by the Prodigality of a hopeful Son , who , with Cocks , Houses , and half a dozen Misses , cou'd thrust a dozen such Estates as mine , into the narrow Compass of a few Bonds , Bills , Mortgages , &c. Oh these unwelcome Lights of Heaven , how fast they number out Use-Mony-Days ! Alas , what an unhappy Spirit am I ! How gladly wou'd I change Conditions with a Vegitable Soul , tho' it were to animate an humble Shrub ! Friend . — How Brother , animate Shrubs , and sleep in such a glorious Star as this , where you can have no dis●urbance at all ; pray lie a little farther , and take the other Nap , and you 'll be well . Debt . — I cannot sleep for the Serivener , he bites me so ; and if by chance I fall into a Slumber , I dream of the poor Man's Box , and the Quarter-day , or else that I see my Son on Horseback , riding into Quagmires . Friend , — Why do you rave of Son , Quarter-day , &c. and are not yet got into the other world ? Debt . — But I 'm a going ; and my Misfortunes will be such there , as I have just now told you . Friend . — Alas Poor wretch ; and don 't you know how to prevent all this ? Arise , and follow me ; there 's a Company of Wits that inhabit the Planet Mercury , will certainly put you into some way to avoid your Misfortunes ; nay , tho' they are such are inevitably fated to you . Debt . — Alas , my Son's Horses have eaten me into a Consumption , that I can scarce get up ; but however I 'll try , since you talk of Remedies ; Come , let 's be going . Friend . — Holo Mercurial Philosophers , open the Wicket there . Philoph . — Who 's that ? His Bawling has made my Brain miscarry of a hopeful Notion . — However , come in . Debt . — I 'm sorry for that ; I wish I cou'd miscarry of mine too ; — Bur where 's the Philosopher ? I can't see him . Philosopher . — Look up , Friend , D' ye expect a Wit to lie grov'ling upon Thresholds . Debt . — Bless me ! he 's hang'd up in a Basket yonder . — Pray Mr. Philosopher . why so high ? Philosoph . — I walk i' th' Air , and gaze upon the Sun , and if my Intellect were not thus suspended , I shou'd think as little Thoughts as you do . — But what 's the occasion of your Visit ? Debt . — I 'm going into the other World where I shall be torn ●n pieces with Debts and Usury ; which to avoid , I wou'd either pa● in current Money or Words . The first I shan't be able to raise ; and the last I 'm not Ma●●er of ; therefore I 'm come to ask your Coun●●l about it . Philosoph . — There 's no need of the first , if your 〈◊〉 were double , I 'll teach you presently how to come off . — Stay a little ; — Ay , that 's right , Oh happy Art ! This it is , not to 〈◊〉 Thoughts to a Threshold ; but l●ke a ●ird ●etter'd in a ●●●ing , to allow 'em Liberty to play and 〈◊〉 in the Air. — In the first place , you must 〈◊〉 the Moon , and keep it unde● Lock and K●y Thirty days before your Day of Payment comes . Debt . Why so ? Philosoph . — If you pay Use by the Months , and there be no Moon to measure out these Months , then no Use can be demanded . Debt . — I don't know how to effect such a Task ; — I think 't is far better to hang my self before the Day of Payment , and then my Creditors will never prosecute me . Philosoph . — No , no , Rou talk like one that was never hang'd up in a Basket ; — Don't you know the Law provides two days , one for Citation , or Demand of Payment , and the other for Payment ? Debt . — Well ; and what then ? Philos. — 'T is impossible they shou'd come both at a time ; so that one day is a warning to get ready , and run away the next . But this is not half ; you are to learn the all-convincing Speech beside . Debt . — Pray what 's that ? Philos. — You must learn to Banter where you find your Creditor a little soft : As for instance ; When they ask you for Money , fetch 'em out a Talisman , or any other thing , and ask 'em what it is ? — If they say , they can't tell ; reply , Do you ask Money , and are so very a Dunce ? If they ask you for the Interest , ask 'em what they mean , or what kind of Creature that is ? They 'll answer , 'T is an Encrease of Money by Months , Days , &c. Ask whether the Sea grows bigger by an encrease of all the Rivers that run into it ? If they say , No ; Ask 'em , With what a Conscience they can expect their Money shou'd increase ; and so you may treat 'em all to the End of the Chapter . Debt . — I don't know what to say to 't , for I believe these Shams won't take , especially since I have to deal with a Shole of Horse-Leeches , call'd Scriveners , Bankers ? 't will pass with Tailers , Ba●bers , and a few Drapers : but — I must be going , Farewel Mr. Basketteer . Philosopher — Pray as you go along , Remember the poor Prisoners . DIALOGUE XVII . Between Two Spirits on the Ramble , and a Flight of Witches , with their Guides . 1. Sp. HEY day ! What 's the meaning of this ? Yonder 's Materiality flying in the Air : What can be the Supporter ? 2. Sp. Necromancy , perhaps , or Sorcery , or Witchcraft . Come , Shall we put a Stop to 't ? I 'm sure none of the Creation has any Business there with Tubs , Caldrons , &c. 1. Sp. There 's a Colt , and a Calf too : Perhaps they are the People of the World in the Moon , and are going to some Fair. 2. Sp. What! Going to a Fair out of their Globes ? No. Come , let 's attack 'em ; at the worst it can but be the Devil , and we are as strong as he , and less innocent . 1. Sp. Right : — Let 's look big , and speak boldly . — Stand , there : What Commission have ye in these Quarters , you — Tub-man ? What! Have ye young ones with ye ? Ye sha'nt wag an Ace farther , till we know upon what E●rand ye are posting . 1. Fallen Sp. — Why , ye Etherial Stragglers : Are we bound to give you an Account ? 1. Sp. Ye must do 't , or disoblige your Hags , to defend your selves . 2. Fallen Sp. — Don't prejudice my Caldron , and I 'll tell ye whither I 'm marching with my Tribe . 1. Sp. — Say then . 2. Fallen Sp. — Into the French King's Cellar for two or three Hours , to treat my faithful Servants there , with every thing that 's grateful to their Senes . 1. Sp. — Very well . And you , Mr. Tubvolant , say which Way bound , — quickly , — or we 'll turn your Diddi-Birds out of their Nest ; do you lend 'em Wings , if you can , to bear up their Garbidge . 1. Fall. — Thus have I seen a laden Pinna●e brav'd by a meaner empty Vessel . — Well , — I also am upon the same Journey ; and if ye will come along with us , you 'll see such Entertainment as none of your Order ever saw before . 1. Sp. — No , — We must have no Society with Apostates . — Come , turn out of your Lodgings , we must have the Tub ; mount your Servants upon that Colt. Witches . We are a Dozen of us already , and therefore too many , unless we must ride upon the Main , and hang upon the Tail. 1. Sp. — Yes , yes ; any how , according as you can agree ; we give no Orders in that . — So , that 's very well . — Come , turn out of the Caldron , and bestride your Calf ; he looks as if he wanted to suck you . — Very well : — Now , Lady-Haggs , jog on softly , that ye don't jade your Coursers before your Journey 's End. 2. Fallen Sp. Remember this when you come to be Incorporate : Assure your selves , we shall be equal with you then . 1. Sp. — Come , don't prate , for fear ye stumble , and lose a Bunch . — We know your Power well enough , that 't is limited . No more : — Troop off , and shew your Shapes . 2. Sp. — This Plunder will be extreamly welcome to Aquarius : You heard of the Misfortune of his Water Pots being broken the other Day , by the Retrograde Dragon ; Ha! — won't these serve in their Room as well as may be ? 1. Sp. — If they had been both of a sort , it had been better ; this Tub will be subject to leak . But perhaps Aries can hammer the Caldron into Two with his Horns , and afterwards push it into the shape of the Pitchers : And if so , we 'll make a Bone fire of the Tub , and laugh at the World below , who will shoot it with their Telescopes , for a prodigious Comet . 2. Sp. — Right , again . — But methinks , the Pleasantness of this Enterprise seems to be abated , by the Concern of getting unperceiv'd into our Lodgings : Suppose we shou'd be met with by the Watch , 't will spoil the Humour on 't . 1. Sp. — Pish , never trouble your self about that● Leave the Management of it to me . DIALOGUE XVIII . Between Two Spirits that are to be Mayor and Mayoress of a certain Corporation : And when they come into their Bodies . 1. Sp. I Have just now been with the Secretary of Fate , to be resolv'd about some Corporal Questions , for I judg'd my Imbodying near at hand . But 't was not that that push'd on my Curiosity so much , as to know why I had such an unaccountable Inclination to your Company . 2. Sp. And are you resolv'd now ? 1. Sp. Yes : I 'm to be Lord Mayor of — in 1740. and you are to be my Lady Mayoress . 2. Sp. I the Mayoress ? Why sure ! Am not I as fit to be my Lord Mayor as you ? 1. Sp. I suppose you will always think so , or else you 'll break the Custom ; but Fate has design'd your Mould different from 〈◊〉 : You are to have a Body of a 〈◊〉 , thin , 〈◊〉 sort of Clay ; and , in short , you●ll be the weaker Vessel , and therefore design'd for other Uses than the Burden of a Sword and Mace. 2. Sp. What Uses , ( my Dear : ) Methinks I begin to be in Love , before I know what it is . 1. Sp. Did you take notice of those three Souls that fled by just now ? 2. Sp. Yes : Are they to be our Relations , when we come into the other World ? 1. Sp. No nearer than your Son and two Daughters . There were two other Souls that us'd to be much in their Company about Twenty Years since , which in a little time will be your Father and Mother : But I shall spoil the Business , by reckoning up Genealogies . I 'm told , you 'll be very severe to me . 2. Sp. In what ? 1. Sp. Unkind Prudence , and more cruel Custom will bind you to hard Laws , and teach you this Lesson ; Starve your self , to keep your Slave poor . 2. Sp. — That 's a hard Lesson , indeed : But perhaps 't is taught , to avoid harder . 1. Sp. — Right : For those that don't stand upon their Guard , are easily trepann'd , and wheedl'd into a Thousand Misfortunes ; especially , that great one of Rash Weddings . But to avoid all this , let you and I finish our Courtship here . 2. Sp. I 'm afraid Pre-existent Contracts will be forgot , or , at least , raise Jealousies amongst our Rival-School fellows . 1. Sp. Never fear that : Assume one Body of Air , and I 'll prepare another , and then we 'll talk it once o'er again . 2. Sp. But what Dress is A-la-mode ? 1. Sp. Ruffs and Commodes will be out of Fashion : But what need you take care of that ? Any Dress is every Dress , if there 's no other present to compare it by . — Ay , that will do . — O the Charms of the Petticoat ! — Methinks I 'm already got within the Influence of that Command , Increase and Multiply . 2. Sp. This is a near way of Wooing indeed . Where 's your Billet-Deuxes , your Vows and Dying ? — 1. Sp. Hold , no more of that Nonsensical Cant ; 't is all but an honest way of Fornication at a distance . 2. Sp. ●ye upon this Doctrinal Part of Wooing : The World below wou'd think this a strange Name for their Tendernesses 1. Sp. 'T is neither better nor worse ; if I love a woman 't is no more in other terms , than I wou'd sleep with her ; so that soueezing Hands , grasping Knees , kissing , hugging &c. are Infant-Offers on both sides at something else ; 't is the extremity of these Desires that sheds the Blood of Rivals , prompts to Suicide , and Tenants Bedlam ; — when perhaps the Party all the while believ'd it to be pure Love , innocent Gratitude , harmless Esteem , refin'd Friendship , &c. Not considering that true Friendship increase by the multitude of Rivals , and that no Man was ever angry with his Neighbour for loving his Wife's Soul ; when you come into the other world , you 'll find no Iilts nor Bullies in Bedlam for Love , no Affronts taken at the Encomiums of a Woman's Mind , no desperation for want of an Union of Souls , In short , all Languishments , Sighs , Vows . Protestations , and all the long Christ-Cross Row of Lovers is nothing else but the plain So , So , in another Dress . Friendship is another thing , and is too sacred to be mention'd at the same time as Love ; it has no dependance at all on the Body , farther than that has a relation to the Mind , but Friendship is a Subject too foreign for monopolizing Lovers , and may be discuss'd when we have nothing else to do ; therefore in short , what Stomach have you to an honest Prolification ? Am I yours now ; or must I tarry till a real Naturalization reads the same Lesson to you o'er again in another World ? 2 Sp. I 'll consider on 't ; and in the mean time , if I shou'd consent , I hope you 'll see me better rigg'd than the rest of my Neighbours . 1 Sp. Yes , yes , never fear that . 2 Sp. — Then I 'm yours ; — but I won't say , I love you , lest you shou'd tell me again what Love is . DIALOGUE XIX . Between the Parcae , ( viz. Clotho , Lachesis , and Atropos , ) and a Book-Seller . Parcae — UP Mr. Letter-monger , and prepare for your Body , we are drawing out the first Thred of your Temporality . Books●ller . — VVhat mine ? Pray lay that Distaffe by , and take another ; do dear Lady , a●d let not me be a Prisoner these hundred years , — I 'm afraid of Incorporation ; for even Divinity-Books , are a meer Drug ; but perhaps in a hundred years more , Times may be better : I never intreated before , deny me not now . Parcae . — We 'll grant your Request assoon as any Body 's else ; but the Dice are cast , and there 's no resisting Fate ; you must budge whether you will or no : Come , don't think to wheedle , and persuade us like Customers ; you aren't got behind the Counter yet . Bookseller . — I know it very well ; — and since there 's no Intreaty that can prevail I 've done . Now must I stand Centry seven years with my fingers in my mouth , and bare-headed , the better to receive the Impression of the cunning Mystery . — Methinks I have got it already ; — Now for a fine Fetch with that Author about Supernumeraries , or Printing a greater Number secretly , than I contracted for ; Can't I handsomly interlope with my Neighbour H — 's Copy , 't is a very good one , and the Author is at work again . Suppose to get the next Copy , I go and out-bid for this , now 't is too late , and tell the Author he was Wheedled and Chous'd out of his Labours . — I must squeeze that Book binder , 't will help towards the loss of my late Impression . — This Copy-Money runs away with a great deal of my Gains , Can't I turn Plagiary , and with a handsom sleight of Hand , put a new Title upon that old Book ; or were 't not best to turn Author my self , by pillaging other Mens Works — Right , that will do , I 'll part with no more Copy-Money these seven years . — This Collection which I have already made , would pass , with a good Title Page . — M — R — and I , can invent some specious one for it . 'T is not a Farthing matter whether 't is agreeable to the Subject within treated of : — But how shall I come off with those Scandalous Pamphlets , I shall print under the Name of Iohn a Nokes upon Tower-hill , Grub-street . the Strand , or any where else ? Shall I suffer for another's Pamphletteering , for telling News before it happens , and sometimes such as always has , is , and will be a Notorious Lye ? No I thank ye , so long as I know how to be in League with the Messenger of the Press , and some body else , I 'll run the hazard . — Now for a Body ! with all the satisfaction imaginable , for when I come into the other World , possibly I may attain to be as crafty as my Neighbours , and if so , I 'll venture one step further , to get above 'em : I have only one Request to make , ( Dear Mistress of Fate ) that you will send but a few Booksellers , and a great many Authors into the World , for these Threescore and Ten Years . DIALOGUE XX. Betwixt a Transmigrated Soul , and an Vnbodied Spirit . Transmig . Spirit . WELL , how fare our Friends , Brother ? I long to be a Member again of your Society , and to be freed from the strange Alliances I have contracted . Unbody'd Spirit . Why , what Relations have you now ? Tr. Sp. My present Relations are a forward Crop of Beans , but what Kindred I shall meet with the next Harvest , I know not : I came out of a Sprat the last Year , having finish'd my Circuition and Change through all the Watry Inhabitants . Unbody'd Sp. Pray , what sort of Fish gave you the most troublesome Entertainment ? Tr. Sp. The Porpus , by far , to be sure every Westerly Wind I was Drunk with tumbling o'er , and o'er , if it had not been for a pittying Collier , who by a lucky Shot made a hole just big enough to creep out of my Prison , I might have lain in Salt pickle these forty years longer ; but 't is all one , for I was turn'd out of one Prison , to be Chain'd in another ; for I can't expect to cl●nge the Laws of Fate , and have my Transmigrations finisht before another Thousand Years more are expired . Unb. Sp. Why so ? Tr. Sp. Because I must run through all things Terrestrial , Marine , and Volatile , before I have finisht my Task , and expiated the wickedness of my Pre-existent State , which expiation always lasts three thousand years ; 't is an unalterable Decree , that all Spirits are to be purify'd by such a Discipline , only here 's the difference ; that Spirits are to actuate mostly in those Creatures that are of the same Dispositions as they were ; as for Instance : The Justice of Fate assigns such as are Angry and Malicious into Serpents , the Ravenous into Wolves , the Fraudulent into Foxes , and so of the rest ; only here and there 's a good Spirit , whose actions being most rational , transmigrates out of one Man into another , finishing most of the three Thousand years in humane Bodies , and as for other Creatures , the Fates take care that they speedily die , that that part of the Transmigration may be quickly over , and reason good for if by chance they shou'd be unjustly confin'd beyond the three Thousand Years , there 's no amends to be made , but some preferment amongst the Officers of Fate , who are always exempt from the Duties of Humanity . Unb. Sp. Pray give an Instance of some Soul that has animated several Humane Bodies . Tr. Sp. I my self was first infus'd into 〈◊〉 , then pass'd into Euphorbus , then into 〈◊〉 , then 〈◊〉 Pyrrhus , then into Pythagoras ; then I left Humanity , and Transmigrated into an Elephant , and so on through every distinct Species in the Creation , and now at last I 'm got into a Bean. Unb. Sp. I can get into a Bean too , if I please : But here 's the Question ; Is this Bean , my proper Residence , and am I , by a Virtual Contact , confin'd more to it , than to any other Being , or Place whatever ? I am rather of Opinion , that all this noise about Transmigration is no more than thus . That such as are of an equal Temper , Judgment , Inclination , &c. may be said to be unanimous , or acted by the same Spirit , especially if they live in different Ages . I can't conceive it to be any thing else , but , like Care , Motion , Study , &c. of some dead Person appearing in some living one ; and thus you , if you acted Pythagoras , you were no more Euphorbus , Hermotinus , or Pyrrhus , than as you had an Inclination to the several Excellencies that appeared in those Persons , and thus a Transmigration into Fishes , Trees , Plants , &c. is nothing else but a study of their Nature . Tr. Sp. You might have added , That 't is a Doctrine that has not been received in the lower World these many Years ; and that 't is also believ'd , that 't was a politick Juggle to make the Age Virtuous , by suggesting , that if Persons liv'd ill Lives , they shou'd suffer such and such dreadful Transmigrations after Death ; but you 'll find to your Sorrow , when you come to put off your first Body , that all is matter of Fact , and no Politick Juggle . Unb. Sp. When it comes to 't , I 'll believe it , but not before , since Pythagoras , who is affirm'd to be the greatest Patron of this Doctrine , did also teach , That the Substantive Unity of one Number , is not the Unity of another , and if so , there 's no Transmigration of one Animal into the Life of another different Animal , but a continuance ( as long as there is a Being ) under the Law of its own Nature , and particular Species ; Species is not coincident with Species ; and this is also imply'd by one of Pythagoras's Symbols , viz. We must not wear the Image of God in a Seal-Ring ; that is , as God can't be resembled , or included in Corporeal matter , so a Humane Spirit ( which is the Image of God ) must not stoop so low as to actuate meaner Nature than the Rational . Tr. Sp. Pythagoras held a Correspondence with Spirits , and cou'd not be mistaken , what Ins●ances you have brought , are none of his , ●imon , Lenophanes , Cratinus , Aristophon , Her●ippus , and others , have ascrib'd many things to Pythagoras , which he never said nor wrote . — But you 'll be better satisfy'd when you come to make an Experiment your self . Unb. Sp. 'T is no matter whether they are his or no , they are truth , and truth never clashes with truth , but is always the same : But I suppose you are in a Dream , instead of , in a Bean , or I wou'd advise you to gape , for here 's a shower of Rain , which will help on with your Germination , and haste your Change into a Cabbage . DIALOGUE XXI . Amongst the whole Consistory of Spirits , Examining a Heretick Soul , about some new Doctrines held forth in Opposition to the Common receiv'd Opinions of the Aetherial Fraternity . Consistory . PRoduce the Prisoner , and his Pamphlet ; and let 's hear what he can say in proof of his new Doctrines ; if we admit of one Innovation here , no wonder the World below us is all in Flames and Divisions . Register of Fate . He is ready here , and his Pamphlet too — Will ye be pleas'd that I , or he read . Consist . No , let him begin , and make his Defence to every particular Article as he goes along . Prisoner . I accept the freedom of making my Defence to the Mysterious Truths that I have discovered , as a very great Favour , and shall without any Preface begin as follows . The First Cannon I ●ay down is , That the Sun and Moon are no Planets ( as is vulgarly believ'd ) but the two Eyes of the World , and that which you call Eclipses , is nothing else but the Worlds winking when 't is sleepy . Consist . How the World sleepy ? Prove that . Pr. You 'll allow the World to be Matter , and as soon as it was created , to be sent of an Errand , and ride Post until this very Minute , without an● intermission whatever : You will also grant ▪ that the whole is of the same nature as all its parts , and that motion wears away , and destroys what is material , unless it have some Reparations , 't is impossible always to run , move , act , &c. I speak of particular parts of Matter , and the same also holds good concerning the whole . I know the great Objection that you 'll make , and therefore will Obviate it , to save your labour , viz. 'T is impossible to pretend to particular Functions in Nature , and at the same time to be asleep . — To which , I Answer . — That the Soul of the World is never sleepy , no more than the Spirit in Humane Bodies ; but you can't deny it impossible for a Man in 's Sleep , to Walk , Saddle Horses , Mow , Plow , &c. of which , there are Instances enough ; just so the Soul of the World follows on its Task , tho' its material frame may be asleep ; for if it did not it would break its Commission , by leaving some part of the World in too long a Darkness ; but this is not a Position entertain'd only by me , take the Sentiments of the lower World upon it , some of which call the Eclipses 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , or the Labours of the Moon , some shot at it to keep it awake , some held up Torches , and sounded Instruments of Brass to ease it : Whence one of their Poets . Cum frustra resonant aera auxiliaria Lunae . Metam . Lib. 4. And another . Una laboranti peterit succurrere Lunae . Juven . Sat. 6. All which considered , perhaps may render the Doctrine as reasonable as 't is new . Consist . — Well , we shall weigh your Reasons by an●●y , what 's your next Thesis . Pr. Second Canon . That the Constellations in the Heavens , call'd the Dragon's-Head and Tail , are nothing else but pieces of a pickled Whale . To prove which , I have the Man in the Moon to be my Voucher , who is a person of so great Credit , and Reputation , that Noah made him the Boston of his Ark. His Relation is this , That one Morning , during the Flood , being very curious to take his leave of an old Neighbour or two that were got upon a Wind-Mill , to secure themselves from Drowning as long as they cou'd , the Moon being at Full , ( that is broad awake ) and according to her usual Method going to take a Draught of Sea Water , ( which by the way , is the reason why Tides swell , on purpose for a full Draught ) she suckt up a Whale , and the Boston of the Ark at once , with a bundle of Cable Ropes at his back , but being not us'd to such Victuals , she pickled the Fish , and presented it to the Astrologick Souls ( who have eat up all but the Head and Tail , ) but kept the Boston to be her Valet de Chamber . Consist . A very strange Relation , but we shall know whether true or no , when we have sent a Messenger for the Man in the Moon : In the mean time proceed . Pr. Third Cannon . That the Moon is drunk once a Mouth ; I don 't positively assert this , but am willing to recant if any of you can show me a better reason why her Face shou'd be so red , when she takes a dose of the great Salt Bowle , alias the Sea. Consist . We shall consider of that also — proceed . Pr. Fourth Cannon . That the occasion of the Universal Deluge , was the Tears of the Devil and his Angels , who wept for grief to be routed and cast out of Heaven : They had two Designs by their Tears , for when they found they could not get in again , they hang'd about the Concave and Battlements thereof , as Flies do upon the Cieling of Houses , weeping as well to case themselves as to be reveng'd of Mankind , so finding themselves to be very many , they wept a numerous Company of Clouds , which were all that time in falling down upon the Earth , as is betwixt Adam and Noah ; but I 'm not so conceited and positive , as to believe this the reason , if you can give me a better . — But however I must beg the liberty to be positive in my next Cannon , viz. Fifth Cannon . — That the cause of Winds flying backward and forward , is the breathing of the World , just as Mankind sucks breath in and out . To prove this ( for I know you expect no less than a Demonstration ) I need not say you must consider , ( for you do , ) That there can be no Effect without a Cause , no Motion without a Mover : The Opinions that pass in this , and the lower World too , have not been enough examin'd , viz. That the Sun , Moon , and Stars being Monstrous Bodies , and continually upon the hurry 't is suppos'd , that they moving , drive the Winds , along with 'em , and that the difference of their Motions , causes different Winds , or an Agitation of the Air , this , and that way ; which is impossible , because then we shou'd have no Westerly Winds , most of the Erratick Stars moving Westward , which hinder the Winds from coming that way ; besides , all Southern and Nothern Winds wou'd be unnatural , but we know that they are as common as Easterly Winds . Nor wou'd the Rarification of Water ( as the Philosophers in the lower World Dream ) be enough to supply such great Winds , and Hurricanes , as sometimes happen , for they only proceed immediately from the lungs of the World , when it has catch'd cold , or is dispos'd to Laugh or Whistle ▪ which makes the Air fly faster out . I might add here , instead of putting it into another Cannon . — That all Earthquakes proceed from the sighing of the World when 't is in a melancholy Humour , for it raising up its Body ( as Man does his Breast when he sighs ) and being brittle where it has the fewest Ribs ( I mean Mines , Quarries , &c. as vulgarly called ) the Buildings , and Cities standing in those places , tumble in into 's Bowels to secure themselves from a transport into the World of the Moon . — Well , Gentlemen , I hope 't is your Silence that gives Consent unto these Truths , and not an Amazement at their Novelty . In Confidence whereof , I proceed to my Sixth Cannon , viz. That Stars are the Bubbies of the World , at which all Astrologers suck , and that all that don't love Astrology were put out to Nurse , and wein'd with grosser Dyet . — But I beg your Pardon ( Gentlemen ! ) I turn'd over a wrong Leaf ; this is your own received Principle , therefore no need to prove it , I meant thus — That 't is as possible for an Ass to drink up the Moon , as to cure Wounds by Sympathy . Consist . Ay , indeed now you say something , that is , as much as to say 't is possible for an Ass to suck out one of the Eyes of the World ; for so you call'd it but just now ; but prav before you prove it , prove a possibility that it may be proved . Pr. Pray , Gentlemen , let me have fair play , I mean the liberty of a Philosopher — If I prove it , I also prove a possibility of proving it : Don't ? Consist . Yes . Pr. Very well . To proceed then . I am to tell you that my Correspondence from the other World is very good and creditable , and 't is often found there , that the Man travels in pains of Childbirth , when the VVoman her self is Deliver'd without pain : That if some sort of Leaves are rub'd ( whilst growing ) upon a Corn , VVart , &c. that Corn , or Wart shall die as the Leaf withers away : — Thus small ideal parts , or fancy'd Representatives of what is real , have the same Sympathetick Effect , that a true Cause wou'd have , when you come into the other World , read Sir Kenelm Digby's Works in this kind . Now those that can deny an Ass to have no Fancy , deny themselves any : But to be short , and give you an Instance that is matter of Fact. One of my Correspondents ( Ludov. vives ) gave me an account of a certain People that did imprison an Ass for drinking up the Moon ; the manner was thus : — The Ass being driven to the Water to drink , the Moon shin'd very bright , and reflected in the water just where the Ass drunk ; the Ass fancy'd strongly , pull'd hard to draw in the Moon , and it had the effect accordingly , tho' some were so silly as to believe the Moon being in danger , slipt out of sight behind a Cloud . Hereupon the Ass was brought to the Bar , to receive a Sentence according to his Deserts ; and as the Senate were gravely debating the matter , one starts up , a little wiser perhaps than the rest , and made the short following Speech . — Gentlemen , 'T is my private Opinion , ( and I hope not unreasonably ) that 't is no trifling business for our Town to loose its Moon ; and I know but of one way to recover it again , viz. by giving the Ass a strong Vomit , to weaken his Fancy , for 't is that that keeps the Moon a Prisoner in his Maw . — No , says another , I think it much better that the Ass be cut up , and the Moon taken out of him ; in short , they handled the Ass so severely , that he had forgot his Supper , and the Moon stole whole , and undigested again into its own place against the next Night , but ever after play'd at Bo-peep , when she saw the Ass come near the Water . — Gentleman , 't is all matter of Fact , and as great a truth as my next Position . Seventh Cannon . That those Devils that were furthest pursu'd by Michael and his Angels , viz. as far as the middle Region of the Air , are all Taylors , and cut out the Clouds into Shapes of Hogs , Trees , Ships , Dromedaries , &c. on purpose to be talk'd on and wondered at by the ignorant Country People of the World below . To prove which , you may be pleas'd to remember , the Prince of Wicked Angels fell by Pride in endeavouring to be like his Maker ; and when he was excluded , and chased out of Heaven , he cou'd not forget the Notion , but wou'd yet be imitating , and make the Representations of all Creatures in Clouds , and Condens'd Bodies of Air , I might ( if there was occasion , to strengthen this Argument ) add , that he has also his Oracles , Miracles , Sacrifices , Priests , in short above one half of the World his true and faithful Servents , and all this because the old Notion of Imitation was so deeply rooted in his mind . — Now it being prov'd , that the Prince of fallen Spirits , does act so and so ; it follows , that all the subordinate Mob have an Itch to imitate their Head , it being a great truth : Regis ad Exemplum totus Componitur Orbis . Subjects will be imitating their King , and Children their Parents , let 'em act good or bad . By Taylor , and cutting out Clouds , I mean only Metaphorically a shaping of Clouds , and I shall think none of you Hereticks , if you call 'em Carpenters , or Statuaries . Consist . — Well , and the next . Pr. That never any Spirit was sent into a Humane Body , to joyn with it as its proper half , or as a convenient residence , but as into a Prison for Debt , purely for Debt ; and not ( as is pretended ) for rambling , or other Extravagancies . To prove which , you need only to consult the Records of our Honourable Court of Equity , and you 'll find the Decrees generally run thus : That having upon the humble Suit of the Plantiff A , impartially weigh'd and consider'd the Defendant B's Charge , wherein is proved , that besides bilking his Lodging , he never paid for the cleansing his Wings , nor whitening his Wand ; be it therefore Enacted by the Prerogative of this Honourable Court of Spirits , That the said B , be forthwith transported into the other World , and be kept close Prisoner in a Humane Body for Seventy two Years ( or some other Number , proportioned to the nature of the Debt . ) — And this is farther prov'd by my Correspondents in the other World , who tell me , they often get into the Ear to listen if there be any subject of dissolution , and sometimes mount up into the Eye , and take a view of the Skies , their old Lodgings ; and when the Eye ( that is to say , the Wicket door , or rather the Grate of the Prison ) is clos'd up , 't is more terrible to 'em , then Garnishing , or double Irons to a Criminal ; and thus much for Incorpation Penalties . Eighth Cannon . 'T is as easie a thing for Ships to sail in the Clouds of the Air , as in the Sea , and 't is an Invention that will be found out when Mankind shall discover the way into the World of the Moon . This Cannon consists of two parts , viz. Hypothetick and Prophetick , to prove the Hypothesis . — Clouds are form'd in the Air either ordinarily , or extraordinarily ; ordinarily by the Exhalations of thin and moist Vapours , just as the steam of a boiling Caldron ascends , which meeting together , and justling in the air , by little and little are condens'd into thick Clouds , or airy Rivers , which by degrees empty themselves again into the Sea , as all other Rivers do upon the Earth . Extraordinarily , when several Winds meet together ( as 't is frequent in some Seas ) the equal strife causes a whirling violent ascention of fighting Particles , which form a Vacuum in the shape of a leaden Pipe , or Pump as high as the Clouds , but Nature abhorring a Vacuum , fills that vast Pipe with Water , by way of Suction or drawing up . So that presently there are formed Clouds of many Millions of Tuns of Water , which can easily enough bear up a Ship , for water looses not its nature in being less ▪ as is evident by a Ship swimming as well in Twenty Fathom deep , as Twenty thousand . Nor has it less power in the Air , than on the Earth ; for a Tub of Water upon the top of a House , will bear up a Hat , Stick , &c. as easily as the Well in the Ground , from whence that water was taken . But though we have prov'd , that Ships may sail in the Air , we shan't promise prosperous Voyages , which brings me to the Prophetick part of my Cannon , viz. That Mankind shall discover the way into the World of the Moon , when they find out the way of Sailing in the Air ; I could prove this also , but that it wou'd lessen the Credit of Prophesies , which admit of no demonstration , but matter of fact : Therefore I shall wave it , not desiring to be believed , till it be fulfill'd . Consist . That 's reasonable enough , — What else have you to offer ? Pr. Ninth Cannon . That Saturn is neither Base nor Ten●r , but Counter-Tenor in the Musick of the Spheres . I have my own reasons for this Negative , and I expect the same liberty that the Philosophers have in the World below , that is , Not to prove Negatives . Let all the Musical Souls amongst ye , prove the affirmative , and I 'll not only yield the Cause , but give 'em both my Ears for a demonstration so soon as I have ' em . But to proceed , if I may speak without offence , or particular Reflections on this Honourable Consistory , who are now my Judges , I have a great many more Negatives to offer in opposition to as many received Opinions amongst you , which ye have taken upon Trust , without examining the reasonableness of 'em ; in which ( provided I may be freed from my Confinement , and the Calumny of it , ) I shall oblige all our Fraternity with my farther Discoveries . Consist . — We 'll do you justice , and upon performance of your promise , you shall have your Liberty . DIALOGUE XXII . Between the whole Consistory of Spirits , being a discovery of Vulgar Errors , received in that Society , by the late suppos'd Heretick Spirit yet a Prisoner . Prisoner — THE Goodness of my Cause is to me instead of Questions ; therefore I shall immediately begin to discover the vulgar Errors of our Society . — The Condition of my Releasment , Secretary of Fate . — Hold a little ; here 's the Man in the Moon come now ; let 's hear what he can say about the Pickl'd Leviathan ; if upon Oath he confirms not your Testimony already deliver'd , how shall we believe what you shall offer hereafter . — Swear him there , and Administer the Interrogatories already drawn up to that end . Notary Publick . 'T is done — Imprimis , do you know the Prisoner at the Bar ? Have you ever held Correspondence with him ? And if so , how long ? Man in the Moon . Yes , I do know the Prisoner at the Bar , and have held a particular Correspondence with him , ever since 35 Years before the Flood . Not. Pub. Item , Was you the Boston of Noah 's Ark ? Did the Moon suck a Whale and you up with a bundle of Cables at your Back , at full Tide in the Universal Deluge , declare the truth , and nothing but the truth . — You are upon your Oath . Man in the Moon . The affirmative of every particular of this second Interrogatory is truth . Not. Pub. Item — Are you now Valet de Chamber to the Moon ? Man in the Moon . — I am . Consist . He 's very positive , pray examine about his Humanity , Sustenance , &c. this looks very suspicious . Not. Pub. — Item , Were you a Man , or a Spirit , when you were Boston of the Ark ? If the first , How come you to live so long without putting ●ff the Body ? If the last , was there any more Spirits with you there at the same time . Remember you are upon your Oath , and therefore speak the whole truth , and nothing but truth . Man in the Moon . — I was then , and yet am of Humane Race , and possibly shall continue lively and well , till the day of Judgment , by reason of the agreeableness of that Aethar to my Stomach , I am never Sick , Hungry , Thirsty , nor Weary ; for there 's no crude Vapours , or gross matter to turn into Diseases . Nor is it at all strange , since the lower World tells you of one Epimendies ( Viridiar . Lib. 4. prob . 24. ) that slept Seventy Five Years without Meat and Drink , and of a whole Nation in India , that lives upon pleasing Odors , ( Nat. Hist. lib. 7. c. 3. ) and of Democritus that was fed divers days with the smell of hot Bread ( Diog. Laert. lib. 1. cap. 9. ) why shou'd it seem strange to you , that pure Aether shou'd afford such a Nourishment , when your common , gross , vaporous Air nourishes Vegitables ? Onions , and the Sempervive , shoot forth and germinate , when hang'd in the open Air. What think ye of the Birds of Paradise , that have nothing else to feed upon but Air ? Go and ask Rondoletius how it was possible for his Priest to live forty years upon nothing but Air ? Or what he meant , when he said he was an Eye-witness of one that had lived Ten years without other Nourishment . From all which 't is no wonder that the pure Aether shou'd have such Effects upon me , as you now see ; though if there were occasion for it , there 's all sorts of Diet : but they are given only as Physick to new Comers into our World in the Moon , as preparatory to a prepetual Abstinence . — Gentlemen , I hope what I have said is satisfactory ; and so I desire the liberty to withdraw : The Moon is awake , and ready to get up by this time , and if I miss my Attendance , I may be turn'd out of my Office. Consistory . — Very well ; discharge the Witness , and see him safe home in the Moon again . — In the mean time , — do you , Mr. Philosopher , proceed in your Discoveries ; you shall have a very favourable Construction of what you offer . Prisoner . — I acknowledge my Obligations , ( most judicious Patrons ) and shall impart what I have found out , with as much Humility and Modesty as Truth can stoop to . — First then , I shall presume to call this receiv'd Opinion a Vulgar Error . That Taurus has any Horns , or that he feeds of the Schems and Draughts of Astrologers in the lower World. Astrol. Sp. — How 's that ? Blasphemy I protest : What will you make a sucking Calf of one of the great Supporters of the Stars ! Prisoner . — Pray , Mr. Astrologer , Not so fast , lest you shou'd tire ; and then your Bull ( I assure you ) cannot carry you , tho' ye offer every day a Bundle of Schemes to him . Suppose there 's no such a Being in all the Heavens as Taurus , but only a Nominal Division of the Heavens , what will become of Horns and Fodder then ? Astrol , Sp. — He raves certainly . — Prove what you say . Prisoner . Nay hold there ; what bid a Philosopher prove Negatives ! Do you prove the Affirmative if you can ; if not , tell this honourable Court why you believe it . Astrol. Sp. — Let me consider a little . — Prisoner . — Come never vex your self to find out what is not ; when the Sun goes through that Part or Division of the Heavens , ( or if you will , when that part of the Heavens moves by the Sun , ) it is said to be in Taurus , because it happens at the time of the Year when the Countrey-man tills , manures , and plows his Lands by the help of Oxen or Bulls ; likewise when the Sun is in Gemini , 't is said to be so , because of the Pairing and Copulation of most Creatures at time ; and so of the rest of the Signs ; which are only Appellations , and no real Beings . I cou'd tell you , that there 's some in the World below us , that know as much ; but this wou'd be too like one of their Proverbs , viz. If you wou'd know what News at Court , you must enquire in the Countrey : And this puts me in mind of another false Opinion among us , viz. That the Devil is a Male Spirit . This is taken upon Trust too , without examination of his Testicles : if there be ever a Midwife-Spirit among you , that knew him out at Nurse , or that had any private Familiarity , or learn'd it by his own Confession before he fell , stand forth . Midwife-Sp . — I knew him out at Nurse , but was never very curious in that particular ; but he told me himself that he was a Male-Spirit . Prisoner . He tole ye ! If you have no better Evidence than that , it proves nothing . 'T is well known The first Word he spoke was a Lye ; and 't was for lying that Michael chas'd him out of Heaven . — I 'm perswaded he 's an Hermophradite , my reasons are these ; 'T was a brave and Masculine sort of Impiety when he pretended himself to be a God , and gave Oracles , and Prophesi'd ; but 't was a Feminine sort of wickedness , to be afraid of the Pentangle of Solomon , the Liver of Tobias his Fish , the sound of Tetragrammaton , the Vertue of Hipericon , the Root of Baaras : Cou'd any thing but a Foeminine Devil , be Commanded by Charms , Spells , Conjurations , Lerters , Notes , and Dashes . In short , can the Devil be any thing else but a Rigil , that is , either Man or Woman , to gratifie the VVitches , and VVizards of the world below , Can he be any thing else but an Hermophrodite , whose Language looks both ways at once , and is either true or false . Aio te Aeacidem Romanos vincere posse . No , no , the Case is plain ; and I hope this Honourable Convention will order it to be registred accordingly . And so I shall proceed to take notice of another Vulgar Error amongst us , viz. That the Soul of the World is not subject to the Passions of Humane Spirits , or that it is not sometimes Merry , Sad , &c. I suppose , if I prove the contrary you 'll look so wishfully upon one another , that you 'll have an immediate Confirmation of it by the World 's Laughing at you : 'T is a certain truth , and if you will but peep out of the Wickets of your Stars , and view the Face of the Elements , you will just now see it look with a pair of Blubber'd Eyes , the reason of it is this ; Taking a view of the Creation , it casually fixt one of its Eyes upon the Gallick Territories , and seeing so much Tyranny , Pride , Extortion , Blasphemies , &c. it cou'd not refrain from Weeping , the Inhabitants of the World below us , call it Raining , not believing that the frequent showers of Tears that fall amongst 'em , are a bewailing their Irregularities ; and thus , when it sees some good and vertuous Actions , it looks with a pleasant Air , and smiles upon 'em , and that they call Sun-shine . The other Night , the World had got the Highcough , which is very often mistaken for Thunder . — We are in almost a hundred Mistakes about the Worlds Common Actions ; when it Spits , 't is erroneously suppos'd to be a Shooting of Stars ; when it turns its Head on one side , either in a fit of Laughter , or by being asham'd at some unhandsome Actions it sees , presently 't is concluded , there 's an Eclipse of the Sun ; and in this Opinion , the World below us are deeply rooted : Now since I am not stingy , or partial in Communicating my Observations , I wou'd have some of you Astrologick Souls ( when you come to have Bodies ) to undeceive your Neighbours about that which they call an Eclipse of the Sun , for 't is laid down as a Maxime amongst 'em , That the Sun being a greater Body than the Moon , can never be totally Eclipsed ; which Error does so much affront the Harmonious Order , and make of the Universe , that the World , as unable to put up such Indignities , has been in the Humour sometimes to close both her Eyes at once , and leave Mankind muffled up in a perpetual Night ; for you must believe , that if the Face of the World be proportioned to its Body , it must be pretty broad , at least some 100000 Miles . — So that the Eyes must stand a great distance one from another ; nay , the Inhabitants of the lower World grant as much in effect when they say the Sun is in an Orb vastly higher than the Moon ; now taking their Opinion for granted , the Sun may be totally Eclipsed according to their own Principles — as in the Figure annext ; for when the Face of the world stands side-way to the Earth , so that the Moon is betwixt the Earth and the Sun , 't is plain , the Moon does not only Eclipse the whole Body of the Sun , but as far about as the Circle B , the Body of the Sun , although bigger than the Moon , extending no farther than A. Another Vulgar Error , wich I have met with , is this . That there are no more Worlds habitable by Men , than the Earth , Moon , Sun , and the rest of the Planets , with a few fix'd Stars . Now this I know , by my own Experience , to be a falshood , for coming home late one Night by the Seven Stars , I peep'd into the least amongst 'em ( which you know is seldom visible to the lower world ) and I saw Thousands of Little Men and Women going to a Fair , but they were no bigger than Rats ; I cou'd not forbear Philosophizing upon it , and at last I satisfy'd my self with this Conclusion , that all Stars were Worlds , and the People in 'em were proportion'd according to the bigness of 'em , and I was confirm'd in my Opinion when I consider'd that the Inhabitants of the Earth were about two Yards high , that those in the Moon were as high as the largest Steeples , and that the People in the Sun wou'd make nothing of stepping Seven Miles at a step in their common walking , had that an ordinary sucking Flea had a Trunk as big as an Elephant ; now Gentlemen , that you may be satisfied as well as I , that the least Star is an Habitable World , 't is but taking a little more notice of 'em in your Rambles . — Another Vulgar Error amongst us is , That there are some new Stars since the Creation , or at least old ones mended , as that in Cassopeia , that in Sagitarius , and many others . For First , ( as introductive to what follows ) I shall prove that Stars don't borrow their Light from the Sun , but have their own innate light , as Fish Scales , Rotten Wood , &c. notwithstanding all the plausible pretences of Earthly Philosophers ; because , if they borrow'd their Light from the Sun , or by Reflection , they would not always have the same appearance , since the World moves its face sometimes so , that both its Eyes are hinder'd from looking upon such and such Stars , and sometimes by reason of the Interposition of one anhther ; but such and such Stars have always the same Lustre , provided the Clouds don't interpose or hinder the light from making a right Judgment . — Secondly , They are not matter solid and compact as the Earth is , for 't is evident to every bodies experience ▪ that motion wou'd in time wear 'em away , but they are only Globulous formations out of the first light , which finisht the Circumrotation of Heaven and Earth , e're the Sun , Moon , or themselves were created ; and if so , Light is not subject to attrition or wearing away , no more than Darkness , which in some sense is a quality rather than a body : Hence no Stars grow old , or wear away , and if so , no need either of mending 'em , or making new ones , for a convenient perfect number was at first created ; besides , if they should be mended , what would have become of their Inhabitants the same time ? or where must they have dwelt till their World had been new Rigg'd ? Those Stars talk'd on , in Cassopeia , Sagitarius , &c. were nothing else but Meteors or Evaporations from the bodies of other Planets , caus'd by the Sun ; and as the matter whereby they were ●ed ceased , they disappear'd ; and the truth of all this is well known by many of our Society , who were at the same time upon the Ramble in those Quarters . — The next vulgar Error I observe is this , That in a few Ages the People in the World below us will teach the Rucks in Madacassar to fly with 'em into the World in the Moon , and steal some of those Inhabitants to show 'em at Bartholomew Fair. By what wild Notion this Opinion came to be propogated I know not , but the Authors of it do also tell us , that a Ruck is a Bird with wings twelve foot long , and that they make no more of sooping up a Horse and his Rider ▪ than a Kite does of a Mouse , so that they can easily carry a Man any whither between their Pinions , or in their Talons . But tho' I grant this to be truth , yet the Voyage is too long to undertake ; for according to my last Calculation , the distance between the Earth and the Moon is one hundred seventy nine Thousand , seven hundred and twelve Miles ; so that supposing it possible for a man and his winged Courser to fly half a year together , it would be 980 miles a day , ( too violent a motion for breathing ) before he cou'd get to the Moon , which wou'd be a very hard Task without Meat , Drink , or Sleep . And lastly , ( for I 'll mention but one more at present ) 't is an Erronious Opinion , That a Spirit can't carry away the whole Universe at once , if he might be permitted to do it . If a Spirit can heave a Chair , a Stool , a Man , &c. he can also remove the World. The reason is , matter is not determinative upon Spirits , first , not as to place , for if a Spirit cannot be circumscrib'd , it follows that all Places are the same to him , and that if a Spirit moves a Chair from its first Station , he can also move it ten thousand Miles further , all the labour being only willing such a motion . Nor is it the Quality of matter that can hinder this motion , all matter being the same to him ; we have daily instances of Spirits passing thro' Glass , and the most continuous matter as easily as through Air , which is a more extended Body . Nor is it Quantity that can hinder this motion , for 't is granted that a Spirit can as easily move a man as a flea , and if so , he can as easily run away with a Star as a man , but this he is not permitted to do , since such a motion would spoil the harmonious and regular position of the Heavens : but to prove it possible to remove Sun , Moon , Stars , Earth , Sea , nay , and the whole Coelum Empyreum at once ; I shall offer , — That a Spirit moves not matter by application of matter to the thing moving , ( as when a man moves his Hatt off his Head , he moves it with his hand , which is another body ) but by a vertual Contact or Application of the Will , just as a man moves his own Body , which is only by willing a motion to it ; just so when a man moves his hand , he moves it not by help of the other hand , but by the immediate act of his will. Now the Spirit in a man is limited by Incorporation , and can move nothing but only its members , or what it applys its members to ; which also being matter are confin'd to Proportions in respect of that other matter which they are apply'd to , yet an unbodied Spirit being confin'd to no particular Matter can will a motion to any matter , which is effective upon matter , as greater Powers command lesser . Nay , I might yet further offer that a spirit might more all the Universe at once ( I mean the Coelum Empyreum , and all the Globes within it ) without displacing the particular parts ; as the Wheels , Weights , &c. of a Clock , when the whole Clock is mov'd away at once ; for a Clock will follow its regular motions in Italy as well as in England , so that ( Gentlemen Spirits , ) if you have a mind to examine matter of fact , there 's no more to do than to make a tryal , only I have this to tell you , that you cannot tell whether you move the whole or no , because you carry all matter and place with you , so that there will be left no place behind to measure from , and if so , no distance , and consequently no motion to be judg'd of ; nor can we who are within the Globe perceive it , since we shall be always at the same distances , just as a fly wou'd be in a house if the house were removed . This is all I have to offer at present , by which I hope I may have not only performed the Conditions of my Liberty , but deserve a Philosophers body in the other World. Consistory , Very well , be it Enacted forthwith , that he supply the first vacancy in the A●henian Society . DIALOGUE XXIII . Between the Spirit of one that is to be a Member of the ATHENIAN SOCIETY , a Correspondent , and of some that are to be Querists . Athenian Member . — HOW a Member of the Athenian Society ! a privy Counsellor of the Stars ? a Resolver of all Questions ! very well , — Have at ye Phisicks and Metaphisicks , Methinks I long to begin the search , Nature lays open her hidden stores , the vegitable world courts my Inspection , the Spirits of animate Beings crowd to be treated on , and the Caelestal bodies stoop to my Embraces , as Luna did to her Endymion . Though other Spirits tremble at the thoughts of Incorporation , 't is a great part of my happiness to think on 't , and I 'am uneasie in nothing but delays of ●●●mencement Pray . Gentlemen Spirits , if ye have any kind resentment of my expectations , begin and ask me some Questions , that I may try my faculty . A Querist . — Very well , — I shall be one of your humble Querists in the other World , and to save us both some labour , pray answer beforehand , whether the Longitude at Sea can be found out so as to be made practicable ; and also the reason of the flux and reflux of that unquiet Element . Athe. Mem. — Yes , 't is possible to find out a Practicable Longitude , but I shan't discover the Method how till I come into the other World , and am secure of the thousand pounds Legacy , the promis'd reward ; so that I shall intreat you , and all other my loving Querists , to let me take my own time for resolving Questions of Interest ; but as to the flux and reflux of the Sea , I 'll impart the discovery ; — Know then that the whole mass of the Creation is one great vegitable Being , and that Water and Air are to it , as sap is to Trees , or as blood and serum are to animate Bodies ; and that the universal Spirit which is disperst through every individual Particle of Nature , and more eminently gather'd together in the midst of that vast frame , is the Sun , which being plac'd in the Centre of the Earth resembles the spirit of man , which is also more particularly seated in the heart ; this premis'd , I further add , That the Sun wou'd expire if there were not an Element of Air to oppose and fight with ; which I prove thus , particulars are of the same nature as their Generals , and a small fire clos'd up so that it can have no Air to oppose it , immediately grows unactive and expires . And thus , when a man ceases to breath , the vital heat or spirit within having nothing to sight with , grows idle , and dyes . To which I shall yet add , as a resolution to the Question , That the strife betwixt the Sun and the Air thins and subtilizes the Sea , and causes the flux and swelling of the Tides as a small fire affects the bubling water that is near it ; and thus the strife betwixt the vital heat and the respiring Air in bodies , rarifies and stirs up the blood to a pulsation , or a diastole and systole , agreeable to the flux and reflux of the Sea , and as the pulse is easier discern'd in the Arms and other extream parts , than in the main bulk of the body ; So Tides are most remarkable at the shores . Thus Life is maintain'd by opposition , and thus all compounded Existences are preserv'd by unnatural Wars . One difficulty more is to be resolv'd , and I 've done , some Seas have their Titles every two hours , some every four , and some every six , which periods are caus'd by the different humors of the Sea , as some are more terren● and heavy than other , some more salt and sulphureous , some more thin and vaporous , and accordingly their respective qualities encrease to such and such a degree before they are proper subjects for the Sun and Air to work upon , which being destroy'd by agitation , they are so long before they 〈◊〉 to a proper head again ; and this also 〈◊〉 with the Crisis , or fits of fevers in humane bodies , which also differ aecording of the body , the 〈◊〉 humowr mereases three days , the 〈…〉 and so the rest , before they can come to 〈◊〉 a degree or Crisis of the distemp●r , and thus I have consider'd the resemblance 〈…〉 great and little World by way of answer to this Question . — And now propose your next . Querist . — Here 's the Correspondent come from your Incorporate Brethren the Athenian Society in the other World , perhaps they may be puzled by their Querists , and have therefore desir'd you and the rest of their Successors Assistance . Correspondent . — Your Imbodied Brethren below greet ye well , wishing ye all good organiz'd bodies , & patient Querists , & intreat a continuance of Correspondence . They have by me sent you six Questions , desering you wou'd communicate your thoughts upon 'em , and if ye will send to them what difficulties you meet with amongst your Etherial Querists they 'll impart their Opinions to you . The following Questions are according to the quality of the several Members . Divine . — Whether the Pope be Antichrist or no ? Mathematician . — Whether there may be found out a Cannon to measure a spherical Convoid ? Logician , — What 's the proper difinition of glorify'd matter ? Civilian . — What reasonable answer we can make when we are ask'd , Why upon Divorces we take penal Security that the Innocent party marrys not again during the Divorceds Life , when the forfeiture and payment of such penal security ●ill not satisfie the Law. Lawyer . — Whether Lazarus's Estate belong'd to the next Heir or himself after he rose from the Dead ? Poet. — Pray assist me with two or three natural Rhimes to Chimney . Merchant . — How to find out a way to give Intelligence in six hours , of Ships at 100 Leagues distance , in order to profitable Ensurances . Surgeon . — Whether an Homunculus produced upon the Grounds that Paracelsus has laid down , wou'd have been animated by Blood , or such white Matter as Vermin have that are also produc'd by unnatural heat ? Their Bookseller , and Mr. Smith the Coffee-Man , want also to know whether there be any Cure for the Athenian Itch. Member . — Here 's nothing that is beyond the power of an immediate perception . Say , all ye Aethereal Querists , have you any doubt to send into the other World ? — If ye have , propose 'em to our Correspondent , who is just now going thither . 1 Querist . — I am afraid I shall be a Poet ; direct me by what measures I may be exempted from the Fate of the Old Proverb ; Poets are podr by Lestiny . 2 Querist . — I have but one to offer . — How may I attain to an effectual Form of Courtship ? — But pray , let it be answer'd in the very next Mercury ; for Lovers are impatient . 3 Querist . — I have a very scrupulous Conscience . Pray , is it lawful to eat Black Puddings ? 4 Querist . — I want to know the Reasons why those Questions I sent about six weeks since are not yet answer'd : I think my Questions deserve a Thought as well as any Bodies else . 5 Querist . — When comes out the next Volume ? 6 Querist . — What curious Translations are design'd for the next Supplement ? 7 Querist . — I 'm a little asham'd , or I wou'd ask when I shall be Marry'd ? Pray , let me be answer'd the next Tuesday ; which being the first in the Month , is the Day appointed by the Society for Love-Questions , and the Doubts of Ladies . 8 Querist . — Why many Questions are never answer'd ? viz. Iacohitish , Obscene , Scandalous● Riddlish , useless , & c ? Since every Body wou'd have their own Thoughts preferr'd to their Neighbour's , — let mine come the next . 9 Querist . — Why they pass over Questions of two or three Months standing , and take notice of Popular Subjects , Curious Accidents , and such as can't be pass'd over without great prejudice to the Querist ; which looks a little partial . — I want a speedy Answer , 10 Querist . — Why the World below is so foolish as to expect one Paper to please every Body , since the variety of Educations , Constitutions , &c. create different Judgments , so that what pleases this Person , offends that ; and what offends this , pleases that ; Insomuch that 't is a true Riddle , To please most , is the way to offend most ; and to offend most , is the way to please most ? Let the next Mercury treat of this Subject , it being a Matter of Consequence . Correspondent . — Pray , dismiss me ; the Society is set , a●d I shall lose a great part of the Conference . Athenian Member . — Very well ! Remember us to our Embody'd Brethren , and tell 'em they shall have their Questions answer'd , and sent to 'em by their next Sessions , and we hope they will consider of these sent by our Aetherial Querists ; tell 'em also , that a Continuation of this Correspondence is very agreable to us , and shall never be broke off by our neglect . — One thing more , — You must remember to call in at Venus as you go along ; there 's a Female Spirit at a great loss in a certain soft Affair ; she wants a Resolution of her Doubts as soon as possible . DIALOGUE XXIV . Between the Spirits of a General , a Midwife , and an Executioner . General . — I Can't think my self to be of the same Species as other Spirits are . — How ? — the disposal of so many thousand Souls ! — Strange ! what a spacious Mannour am I Lord of ? What a numerous Crowd of living Tenements are at my Command ? Methinks I see my 〈◊〉 at the Head of 60000 Men , who act implicity , without questions : If I command , they fight , march , encamp , or what I please . Methinks I see my Enemy drawing near , and 〈◊〉 depends on a single Breath , whether Thousands fall or none : What signifies a Diadem , or Tyrian Robes , when the Sword commands them to be laid aside ? Alexander was not fear'd as Philip's Successor ; but as a General , and a Conqueror . Is there any Spirit that can pretend to such an absolute Power over its fellow-creatures as a General ? Midwife . — What Despotick Spirit is this that presumes to huff , and encroach upon my Priviledges ? A General ! 'T is a little noise , busie Thing , that is so far from having an absolute Disposal of its Fellow-Creatures : as to have its dependance purely from me , Is it not in my power to crush the Wretch , and bring it strangled into the World ? And then where 's the Disposer of Crowns , the single Breath , that was to determine the Life and Fate of Thousands ? How small is that Power over others , that is not able to preserve it self ? Besides , admit a General to have a dispensation for an uncommon entrance into the World ; how would he do for proper Subjects of his Power , if he disown'd his Obligations to me ? Where wou'd he have his Attendance , if I shou'd deny to assist him by aiding humane Productions ? General — How , I depend upon a whining Female Midwifry ! If the more hardy , and Masculine Beings obey me , what can the more helpless , brittle Clay , call'd Woman , do ? If 't is in a Commander's Power to put all to the Sword , by what Artifice can you plead an Immunity ? — Midwife , — By that of Gratitude ; If Male Spirits are not wholly ignorant of such a Vertue ; for 't is a mean recompence to destroy-those by whom we live . — But to pass over that : The first Refusal of any thing is most noble ; and then you can't deny but we have our power of disposing of Life and Death before you : Besides , Life being more noble than Death , we have yet the preference , since we dispose of that , and you of this : Executioner . — What a vain Contest is here about a Preheminence that belongs to neither of you ? Gen. — What have we here , another Controller of Fate ? Execut. — Yes , very often of the Fate of Generals and Midwives too . Gen. — Oh that I had but a Body , and this Insolent Gibbet Gazer another ; that I might Cane him for his Sauciness . Execut. — Not so passionate , g●od General . — If you know any other Reason besides your Sword , pray answer — whether 't is not the End of an ●ction that dignifies it ? — Or , whether Actions in themselves are either good or ill otherwise than as they receive such denominations from the End which determines them ? Gen. — Right ; What wou'd you infer from hence , the honour of fixing a Criminal's Ear-knot , or piling up the expiating Fagot ? Execut. — No , but that my Office being the Execution of just and prudent Laws , is far more honourable than the murthering Ambition of Generals , or the Midwifry of vicious Humanity . The most just Wars that happen , are never without the injustice of destroying some Persons , that have no other fault but prejudic'd Judgments ; and Midwifry is so blind an Action , as to make no difference betwixt the Legitimate and Illegitimate , betwixt Fathers of Countreys and Tyrants ; betwixt the Prince and Beggar . — But in a due Administration of just Laws ; there 's an immediate distinction betwixt Merit and Demerit , Vertue and Vice : In short , 't is so absolutely necessary , that neither the Body Politick , nor private Persons can be safe and happy without it ; and therefore nobly great , and meritorious , as a Preserver of Nobility amongst other Conditions . Gen. — I never decide Disputes any other way than by my Sword ; therefore if you persist in these Heresies , prepare to end the Argument by force . — Execut. — I never fence , nor resist till I tie up my Adversary ; if you 'll tarry till then , I 'm sure I shall convince you . — Midwife . — Dispute and quarrel as long as ye please , I shan't yield the preheminence to either of you ; — Besides , 't is unjust , ( since we are all Proselytes to our own Conclusions , ) to give Judgment decisive upon our own Cases . — If you think it convenient , we 'll refer the Dispute to the Arbitration of the Athenian Mercury , who will do us all Justice . Execut. — Agreed . Gen. — March then ; but , I will lead up the File thither . DIALOGUE XXV . Between the Spirits of Two Projectors . 1 Spirit . — HOW ! A well fledg'd Cully , just come to Town , and brought along with him an unbawk'd Fancy , a strong Faith , and a deep Purse ! Very well , — 'T is no common Catch , — a handsom plausible Harangue ; and he 's mine ; But yonder 's one of my Comrades . — Holo Brother Projector , What Prospect have you of your Discoveries in the lower World ; Are they like to succeed or not ? — I 'm upon the wings of an imaginative Faculty ; and am fancying my self in pursuit of the Game . 2 Sp. — First let me see how I shall come off in what I 'm now upon . 1 Sp. — Why have you not yet effected your Promise of recruiting the exhausted stores of Nature about Thunder and Lightning ? 2 Sp. — What do you mean ? 1 Sp. — When Nature was commanded to muster up all her Sulphury Stores , and Vengeance call'd for their disposal on the Cities of Sodom and Gomorah , 't was you ( if I mistake not ) that offer'd to raise a new Supply without a Bankrupcy of any of the four Elements . 2 Sp. — That I have done long since ; but the great business in hand is — 1 Sp. — Is what ? I 'll warrant you 't is some Intriegue that you are for managing when you come into the Body : Come we 'll suppose our selves already there ; — What wou'd you be at ? 2 Sp. — Twenty Thousand Pounds at least , and a Name to out live Monuments . — The Notion's 〈◊〉 and coming ; and methinks I see a Coach and Six a little behind it , attending me as a small Testimony of such a useful Discovery . 1 Sp. — Then you 'll forget me ; Attendance and Ceremonies will prejudice your Eyes from looking upon your old Friends : In short , you 'll be moulded into a new Nature . 2 Sp. — Well , since you will be fancying Incorporation , methinks I hear your Question urg'd in the Body , and my self making Excuses , and coming over you for a handsom Treat , on purpose to seek an opportunity of telling you how lasting my Friendship wou'd be . — Methinks I also see you vex that you were prevented in the Question , and my self asking , What is become of all the auxiliary Magazines sent in by your credulous Disciples ? 1 Sp. — Your Fancy's pretty near the Truth ; but I cou'd tell you that you 'll be at a strange loss without an Apprentiship of seven years held in the Subterranean Conclave , o' th' Southern side of the T — le . 2 Sp. — Why , what 's to be learn'd there , more than Decoy or Wheedling in a Yo — re Squire or two ? 1 Sp. — To come off handsomly after all , and manage the Concern so wisely , as never to fail bringing the useful Discovery to perfection ; but for want of Two or Three Hundred Pounds more , which will oblige the Engagers either to resign their first Interest , rather than come in deeper , or force 'em to the last shift of paying their Footing , ( which is , Breaking , ) and commencing Projector themselves ; which , in my Opinion , is a very fine Trade amongst soft Heirs , credulous Bankers ; nay , amongst all that are Babes in Worldly Philosophy . — But to wave the Thoughts of the Body , and return to our first Subject . — You have supply'd the exhausted Stores of Thunder and Lightning , &c. Pray which way are your labouring Thoughts employ'd now ? And what farther Discovery have you to communicate to the Universe ? 2 Sp. — 'T is a weakness to design before Projectors ; and the surest way that can be found out to be supplanted ; therefore I desire to be excus'd , farther than to tell you in general Terms : I am offering Proposals to the Register of Fate , for a regulation of the Solitices : I know no Reason the Sun shou'd not be call'd to an Account for being idle twice a Year , when the Inconveniences of his loytring are so destructive to the whole Frame of Nature , by burning up its radical Moisture on one side , and suffering the other side to lie imprison'd in the Chains of Frost and Darkness , without the least demerit . 1 Sp. — Indeed this has not yet been consider'd ; but won't it disoblige the Computation of the Astrologick Souls ? 2 Sp. — Particular Interests must not come in competition with a general Good : — But admit such a small inconvenience ; I can quickly redress that . 1 Sp. — Nay , then you 'l encroach upon my Studies ; for I have been drawing a Scheme of the Regulation of Time &c. for which I expect no small Recompence . 2 Sp. — Pray where does your Calculation begin ? 1 Sp. — From the very Minute that the Deluge began ; which , as I take it , was about Seven a Clock i' th' Morning , from the Creation of Souls 2193 Years , 6 days 3 9 / 10 Minutes . 2 Sp. — You pretend to great Exactness . 1 Sp. — 'T is necessary ; or I had chang'd Winter for Summer before now . 2 Sp. — Well , and have you any thing else to promote ? 1 Sp. — Nothing at present , but to secure my self from being pump'd out of my Project , till I am certain of my Reward . 2 Sp. Farewel then . 1 Sp. — If you had not been in haste , I cou'd have told you how Noah's Compass and Sea-Card were the very first Enterprize I brought to perfection : But more of this the next Meeting . DIALOGUE XXVI . Between Two Travelling Spirits . 1 Spirit — WELL , met Brother ; how far this way ? 2 Spirit . — Into the Sphere of Saturn ; I have only that part of the Universe to be acquainted with ; and at my return home , I shall have a compleat Iournal , with some Remarks , not a little curious and diverting . 2. Sp. — I am just come from thence , and am willing to give you a particular Relation of every thing there ? But pray what are the most curious Remarks you have met with in this long Ramble . 2 Sp. — In the Region of the Moon I found some surprizing Novelties ; particularly , the manner of that Planet's Motion . — The Moon is generally believ'd to perform its Circuition by a Principle of Self-Motion , which Nature at first communicated to it ; but 't is an Errour ; for the Moon is a Lifeless inanimate Mass , and can no more move of it self than a Pewter-Dish can ; nor is it ( as some have concluded ) bowl'd along by Spirits amongst the rest of the Stars ; for then a swinging Gigantick Spirit wou'd sometimes throw it out of its due Cariere , and make it rob , or fall soul upon some of the other Planets . No no , such Caprices in Nature are not to be met with . — 'T is continually carry'd along by half a dozen Spirits in a large Lanthorn , half of it transparent , and the other half dark , and these half dozen Spirits are reliev'd by another half dozen , once in four and twenty hours : The reason of its seeming Increase and Decrease , is nothing else but the turning of the darker or brighter side of its Lanthorn more or less directly or obliquely towards the Globe of the Earth . I can also assure you , that there 's not one Star in the Heavens that moves of it self ; but what are carry'd along by Spirits ( plain Spirits , not Intelligences , as some Philosophers dream ; for there 's no such Beings . ) There are many strange Opinions amongst Mankind about the Motion of the Heavenly Orbs : A Spirit that left its Body in a Dream , just when I came into the world of the Moon , gave us some merry Tenets about it ; as , that the Elements were divided into Spheres , like the Films of an Onion , and that such and such Stars mov'd in such and such Films . Some again held , That Stars were put upon Strings like Beads , and push'd on by ●egions of Spirits . Some wou'd have 'em half under and half over their Films , and Chanels cut for 'em to roul along : Some believe that the Film is transparent , and that Stars are bowl'd along up em : Some , that they hang under their Films , and that there 's a kind of a mucous Matter , which makes 'em stick like Flies with the feet upwards to a Cieling : but some believe there 's no such things as Spheres , Films , or Divisions of Elements ; but that they hang in the Air upon their own Centre , whirling about like Boys Tops at Shrovetide . Thus far the humane Spirit discover'd the wild Opinions of his Brethren . 1 Sp. — This is pleasant indeed ; but I believe I light on some Passages as remarkable . You know that every Globe has its particular Aether , which moves along with it ; and that there are indefinite Spaces , Vacuums , or Interstitiums betwixt the Planets , if not , the vertiginous motion of one Aether would justle with another . You are also satisfy'd , that the Globes of Mercury and Luna , have either of 'em a Republick of Philosophical Souls , that left their Bodies , and yet retain their old Notions . — It was my chance to travel that way when there was a publick Dispute betwixt some late deceased Cartesians , and some Peripateticks ; every Soul was arm'd Cap-a-pe with Dilemaes , Propositions , Objections , &c But the Dispute about Motion and innate Idea's , was manag'd so warmly , that they forgot their Footing , which was upon the extremity of the Vortex , and down they came sluttering into the indefinite Space or Vacuum I was telling you of . — Very well ( says a Peripatetick Soul , ) this Fall is no Motion , because there 's no Continuity of Matter to measure by ; and therefore I delie you all to prove a possibility of getting out again . A Carte●ian Soul fell a laughing at such a Challenge , and told him , he ought to get a new Body , and make Experiments ; and afterwards consider the Theory . — No , says the Peripatetick ; it can't be done ; and therefore I 'll not offer to budge till I see a Demonstration of a possibility , in Mood and Figure . And as they were examining , a certain Minor which was propos'd , comes a Comet , and with a Brush of its Tail scowr'd the Vacuum , and dash'd the Disputants upon the Vortex again . 2 Sp. — And what became o' th' Cause then ? 1 Sp. — It was put by till another Conference , by reason of a black deformed Spirit that had had the Misfortune to leave its Body for a worse Place , which came roaring and howling into the midst of the Cartesian Souls , crying out , Where 's the Spirit of Des-Cartes , that pretended to prove a Deity by Innate Ideas , when he shou'd have prov'd such Idea to be the Idea of a real Being ; 't was the weakness of this Argument that damn'd me : Besides , I 'm continually chous'd and hunted about by a company of snearing Devils , that stigmatize me with the scandalous Character of a Cartesian Spirit ; pointing at me with their sooty Paws , as I pass along ; Do ye see ( says one ) yonder Inhabitant of the Cartesian World : See ( says another ) the Artist that preaches of a subtle Matter which forms the Liquidity of Bodies . Pray ( says a Third ) will you go ask your Master what he means by the Sun 's forming a great Vertex of sluid Matter for the Stars to swim in ? And whether the Sun is both Agent and Patient in such a Formation ? If not , of what pre-existent Matter he forms this fluid Matter ? Or , whether he pretends to an immediate Creation of it out of nothing ? with a thousand sand more such puzzling Questions , which doubles my damnation , to solve ' em . — Now Mr. Des Cartes , if you can keep up your Credit , and mollifie my Plagues , do it quickly : — Don't trouble me yet , reply'd the Philosophical Spirit , lest you spoil a new Notion that I left unfinished upon my Death-bed . O ( says the Black Disciple ) that my Master shou'd study to damn People when they are dead ! I 'll warrant you , 't is to find out the reason why Mercury is sometimes nearer the Earth than the Sun : But pray , by the way , what 's the Use of this , and a thousand more such Phaenomena's , if Vertue be the proper Task of the Intellect , & if the business of a wise Man be not Talking , but living ? Thus the poor Spirit troop'd off again without his Errand , ra●ling his invisible Chains , and calling Philosophy Beelzebubism . 1 Sp. — This was a very strange Passage indeed , and puts me in mind of half a dozen Philosophical Spirits , which were huddled together , and ty'd Muzzle to Muzzle in the Bastile of Mercury , for pretending to find out a way to appear visible to Mortals , without the assumption of Aerial Bodies , or any other Vehicle ; as I pass'd by 'em , there was one that had his Notion too setled to remove it by such a Treatment — Courage ( said he ) Comrades ; I 'll procure a speedy Manumission from this Cage , by appearing in this posture to the Inhabitants of every Globe , and making 'em send Ambassadors to our Judges about us . — Say you so ( says one of 'em ) I pray make a Demonstration to us first how it may be done . Thus ; ( reply'd the other ) The Representation of Things is not always confin'd to the ordinary Method of assuming the similitude of the thing seen into the Eye , which necessarily supposes a Subject to be assumed ; but the visive power may exercise Ideas and Similitudes of things that are not , by indisposition or illusion . Thus by beating up the interior Organs , and acting briskly upon the Fancy , I can make the Patient to believe a resemblance of what I please , or I can deceive the Eye , by indisposing it , through the annoyance of internal Fumes , Vapours , &c. — Thus have I made Experiments on Persons , who , whilst they have been lying in Bed , wou'd look upon the Windows , and see Curious Globes , and Figures of all shapes and colours , which wou'd move before the Eye , i●● the Eye follows 'em , or wou'd pursue the motion of the Eye , if it drew from ' em . I might add the possibility of accomplishing my end by ●alse Refractions of Light , Interpositions of Bodies , &c. But I 'll let that alone till I come into a Body ; when I 'll take some pains to undeceive the World below about Apparitions of ill Spirits , which are as commonly form'd in the Eye , as inclos'd in Aery Vehicles . Hold , not a word more of their Customs ( reply'd the other ) lest we shou'd be over-heard , and so receive double Punishment for Correspondence with Apostates — Thus the poor muzzled wretches were confin'd for some time ; but at their Trial , they ; upon urging some such Arguments as I have now offer'd , convinc'd their Judges , and were again set at Liberty . 2. Sp. — I remember I was there at the same time , and there came in a Messenger Post-haste , saying , There are just now arriv'd a great number of Separate Souls upon the Confines of the Moon , that pretend to bring in Remonstrances against the whole Philosophical Academy of Souls ; at which , the Spirit of Aristotle , who was always good at Subterfuges and By-holes , complain'd of Indisposition , and that he wanted to converse with the Spirit of Galen ; but he was no sooner clear of the Crowd , but he mounts up through the Coelum Empyreum , and gets out of the Wicket into that vast indefinite Space , to be free'd from the importunate clamour of his thousand thousand Disciples fluttering about him . I cou'd not forbear following him , to see the humour on 't ; and amongst other things , I overheard him crying out , Oh that I had been Alexander's Horse , instead of he being my Pupil ; then I had liv'd quietly in History , and had been only Curyetting , Pawing , or Neighing in the Fancy of the Learned : But now ( Wretch that I am ) I 've div'd so deep , that I have not only lost my self , but am also accessary to the Destruction of my Proselytes . Methinks I see my self catching at Imp●ssibilities , and instead of 'em , grasp some strange bewitching Dream , that has either Blasphemy against the Gods in 't , or is a sacrilegious Story of their Secrets , belying what I cou'd not discover . Methinks I also see that in quisitive Race of Mankind listning to partake of the ●orbidden Notions , and rather than fail , they turn ●ver my Works so oft till they find something in 'em , that I my self never thought of , nor design'd . Hereupon , they begin to explain Incomprehensibles , till they are serv'd by succeeding Ages as they serv'd me , but the whole Blame and Punishment retorts upon me , because I ●et 'em first at work . Oh that I had defin'd 〈◊〉 to have been Vertue ; and Uice to have been Vice ; I 'd scap'd the scowring of so many duplicated Damnations , and might have walk'd quietly in the Battlements of the Moon , without Noise and Disurbance . But as I was intent upon the Philosopher's Expostulations , I saw at a distance three Millions of separated Spirits , all Females ; they had been ridicul'd , and chas'd out of all the Globes for their awkward Dresses , and brought along with 'em the Fashons of Two and Fifty Languages into the Indefinite Space above the Heavens . Some had got Ruffs about their Necks as big as Cart-wheels ; some Head Dresses as large as the Tail of a Comet ; some were in one Dress , and some in another ; a few were rubbing and scowring the outside of Heaven , to make it transparent , that they might see to dress their whole Body by it ; some were doing , some were uning ; some were pleas'd , some in a Passion : some lik'd their own Mode the best , and some prefer'd that of another ; and some were quarrelling with every particular Dress , and made up a Iargon of all Dresses together : But to see the different Figures , Postures , Courtsies , Complements , and Tittle-tattle amongst 'em , made me believe that they were some Generation of Spirits which I had never heard of : Whereupon , I apply'd my self to the Aristotelian Soul I told you of , to desire his Opinion ; who told me , he had done Opinioning ; but if I wou'd ask the Spirit behind me , I might be inform'd : Upon which , I turn'd me round , & saw a Thing all hung with Clouds and Vapours , in an Aery Humane Shape , wringing his Hands , and sighing at a wretched Rate ; as I made up to him , I cou'd hear him say , — Poor Heraclitus , Whither now ! Hast thou searched the whole Universe , and every particular Globe of the Creation , to retire from new Objects of thy Over-pity , and all this , to find the greatest behind in this Indefinite Space ? Alas , now I am desperate in my Search , and will give o'er , since Female Spirits are so wedded to Impertinencies , as not to leave 'em when dead . — Upon the mention of the Word Female Spirits , I troop'd off with all the speed imaginable , for fear of being caught up for a Foot-Boy●Spirit , by one Madam C — in Exchange-Alley ; who I well knew was as proud of a Livery-Boy , as Paint and Fucus : I had no sooner got within the heavenly Wicket again , but I stumbled upon a Disputation that was held upon the Verge of Saturn . But I came a little too late , and cou'd only hear the latter part of the Conference ; which by Plurality of Voices , fix'd a Liberty of Conscience , and that the Spirits of Iews , Pagans , and Christians , should all be free to believe themselves Children of Philosophy , and of the Number of the Elect. I pass'd on from thence without taking any Leave ; ( for there are no 〈◊〉 among the Stars , that use Ceremonies , but European Female Spirits , and they were most of them chas'd out of the Universe , as I noted before ; and coming near , the Globe of Iupiter , there was a great Concourse of Spirits about a Chalenge between a Heathen and Christian Philosophick Soul , concerning the Burning up of the World : Here might Humanity if they 'd had Eyes and Prospective Glasses strong enough , have seen their old Maxime confuted , which says , There 's no penetration of Bodies ; for here were at least ten Millons of Spirits got together all into one Body to hear the Dispute ; but there was such a fluttering Hubbub , that the Orators were fain to leave off a while , to see if the Noise would cease ; tho' in vain , for every little Auditor wou'd pretend to dictate , and give his Opinion : I cou'd hear one something louder than the rest , crying out , — Alas , alas , if the World is to be burnt up , and all the Stars consum'd , what shall I do for a Lodging ; I shall ne'er away with the Converse of Feminine Spirits in the indefinite Space : Oh , says another , for my Master Aristotle , how gladly wou'd I learn o'er again the Lesson of the World's Eternity , that I might be able to confute this Litigious Spirit , that pleads for an untenanting of the Stars . Another was for Bantering ; and said , the Universe wou'd make a prodigal Burnt-Offering . Thus one cries out one thing , and another another ; so that the whole Assembly began to vote it penal to name such a Topick ; and that there shou'd be no more such Challenges for fear of a Tumult . You know I was always a mortal hater of Tumults and Quarrels ; so that being in haste to get away , I made but one flight to the World in Venus ; where I light upon a very high Mountain ; but I had not tarry'd long there , but the Mountain was surrounded with Myriads of Female Spirits , Arm'd Cap a-pe with immaterial Javelins , Bows , Darts , and Colours of War ; and one amongst the rest , comes up to me , giving me to understand in short , that I must either quit that Globe , or prepare to encounter all the Inhabitants ; which were mostly Amazonians and Stoicesses , and had a Charter from the Secretary of Fate , to make that Globe their Retreat , to secure 'em from the Insolencies of Male Spirits ; and also , that they had the Privilege to chastise all intruding Male Spirits as they pleas'd , by a Court Martial ; and therefore , believing me to be a Traveller , and a Stranger to their Customs , were so courteous , as to give me time and opportunity to dispose of my self as I pleas'd . — I view'd the soft Herald from Top to Toe , and considering her Air and Features , I remember that in my last Search in the Registry of Fate , I had seen her Character , with this Signature over against it . I had no need to ask Questions upon this Reflexion , knowing the Riddle would be resolv'd in another Globe , Anno Dom. 1691. and so without any acknowledgment of the Obligation , or other complement , than in thought , I stood off again ; and in about two Seconds of a Minute , got to the Boundaries of the World in Mars : There I was up to the Ears at first dash , amongst Male-Spirits ; ( forgive the Expression , I 'm to be embody'd shortly , ) and found 'em generally calling Councels of War , which put me upon the Curiosity of enquiring what Religion they were of ; and I was inform'd they were mostly Christian Spirits : and upon asking what their General was ? I presently concluded , Nothing at all . — A strange kind of Exression , Brother , is not it ? But 't is not strange , when I add , That it was farther told me , they were to fight against , and destroy one another , for such mean Interests , as ( when examin'd , ) are not worth the exercising any Passion but Hate . Indeed this amaz'd me above whatever I met with in all my Rambles , altho' the next Encounter was not altogether unworthy my Reflexions . — 'T was thus : A little farther was a Nunnery of Spirits , wherein a certain Fault had been committed ; but I dare not say what , for fear of prosecution the next time I travel that way , since the Law was satisfy'd , in giving up the Criminal to the Mob of Spirits ; which handled her severely enough ; and afterwards away they hurry'd her to a certain Meeting of Dissenting Spirits ; and having pull'd the Non-resisting Preacher off his Pedestal , ( for they use neither Chairs nor Pulpits in that Globe , ) one of the Ring-leaders mounts , and begins as follows : Liberty , Boys , Liberty ; away with these dull Canting Spirits , who , under pretence of being good , only meet to plot against our Freedom : Why do they tell us of hard Names and thinking , and not preach up Liberty , or something else that 's new ? For my part , I 'm for Toleration of nothing but what suits my Humour . No matter who 's uppermost , or what the last ot next Council decrees ; 't is all one to Mob ; and whoever is of my Opinion , let him hold up the dirty end of his Wand , and cry Cluck . — Hereupon , they all cluck●d so loud that the Spirits which carry'd that Globe , ran away from their Commission , and down it fell betwixt Mercury and the Sun , and spoil'd the Ptolomaick Systeme of the Heavens ; for my part , I got out of it as soon as I cou'd , and left the Rabble , who were going to pull a Pedant out of his School , for Tyrannizing over one of their Brethren . I was no sooner got safe out of the Whirligigg-Planet , but I met with Charles's wain , laden with twenty dozen of Souls ▪ bundled up close , and laid neatly upon Pillows of Snow ; as I came near , to ask the meaning , up starts one of them , and call'd me Impertinent and Saucy , for not making my Honours before I ask'd Questions ; whereupon , I made a very humble Grin , and call'd 'em worshipful Dons ; thinking 'em to be Spanish Souls ; upon which , one of 'em condescended to tell me , in answer to my first Question , That they were Gentlemen Souls , and scorning the Drudgery of walking into their Bodies , were accommodated with that Heavenly Calash to ride in , cautioning me for the future to be more exact in my Distinctions , and to observe a due Deference to the Honourable . It growing late , I step'd into the next Star ; where the Inhabitants were very small , yet very courteous , and entertain'd me handsomely that night . The next Morning I set out upon my Ramble again , and met the Caravan , ( alias Charles's wain , ) the second time , laden with a new Shoal of Spirits , and bound for the other world ; at which I began to make my Honours ( as precaution'd ) but was laugh'd at by the Waggoner , who told me , they were a Company of Pick-Pocket , High-way , and Clipping-Spirits , ( that is design'd for Bodies of such Professions ) and foreknowing the unkind Treatment they were to meet with in the other World , wou'd not go into their Bodies ; but were forc'd to be carry'd . I was a little vex'd at the Mistake ; but you know ( Brother ) that Travellers must comply with Customs , and put up Indignities on all hands . 1 Sp. — ●Tis very right ; and without such compliance , 't is better to tarry in ones own native Star , where there 's freedom both to speak and act , without constraint . — But amongst all your Rambles , did you never make a Visit to the Globe of the Earth ? 2 Sp. — Don't mention that Place , if you have any respect to my Ease ; for as it is the very Setling and Dreg of the Creation , so have its Inhabitants proportionable Qualifications . 1 Sp. — Pray pardon my Inquisitiveness , and give me one Instance ; I know not by what Fatality it comes about ; but a new Theory of Pain is as bewitching to me , as a small Practick in Pleasure . 2 Sp. — Is it so ? Why then Imagine your self amongst a numerous Crowd of Mortals ; every one a Bastile or Vatican to your old dear Acquaintance ; Suppose you saw your Relations looking out of Mortal Eyes , ( as the Grates of Prisons ; ) and now and then stealing a Glance at the Skies , the place of their old habitation : Suppose you also hear one calling out to you , Pray pay me a Visit at night , when the Body has little need of my Attendance , that I may give you an Account what an ambitious , restless Lump it is that I animate : Pray ( says another ) come see me when my Body's asleep , that I may have some vent to my Sorrows , by telling you the vast difference betwixt a Body'd and an unbody'd Spirit . No , ( says a Third , ) but if you 'l come and see me , I 'll preach the Doctrine of Humanity to you ; possibly it may have such an effect upon you , as you may escape the first Damnation for three or four hundred Years longer . Suppose you hear five Thousand more beginning to make their Complaints , and the Body , like a Tip-staff , or Serjeant , hurrying 'em away into new experiments of Horror , before they can tell their Story out . 1 Sp. — Hold , pray no more ; — I' have enough of Humanity : Let 's be gone ; i● your way lies towards the World in Saturn , ●'ll bear you Company , 2 Sp. — I 'm oblig'd to you : March then . DIALOGUE XXVII . Between the Spirit that is to be last imbody'd , and the Spirit that is to be first re-united to the Body at the Day of Judgment . 1 Spirit . — HOld , hold , Brother , don't leave me yet : — Alas , he 's gone , and with him all the whole Society of Spiris ! What have I to converse with now but inanimate Globes , aud senseless Constellations ? What signifies it that I am Lord of all , when I have no Subjects to reign over ; no agreeable Mate ( I mean , of the same Species , ) to accompany me ? Unkind Fate , to imbody all the Thousand Thousands of my Brethren , and to leave me to wander up and down the Universe by my self ! — The World is to me a sort of Prison , not by Diminution , but by Deprivation ; for a Prison is not properly call'd a Prison , for being so great , or so little ; but being a Confinement from such and such Enjoyments . — Oh that I cou'd cease to be , or transmigrate into any other Classis of Creatures ! For what state is more unhappy than that which gives a power of enjoying Good , and denies a Subject to exercise his power upon ? — But stay , why do I repine ? Some Spirit must necessarily have been the last ; and tho' it is I , yet it cannot be long but my Turn will quickly come . 2 Sp. Nine hundred ninety nine Millions of Millions , — Let me see again ; possibly my Calculation may be false . — Suppose once more , that everry Man ( computing one Man with another , ) is compos'd of a handful of pure Earth , all the Particles of the other Elements being separated from it , then it follows , that just so many Handfuls of Earth as the Globe contains in it , may be made into Men ; but no more , unless the God of Nature will make more Earthly Globes ; for when every Man rises at the Day of Judgment , and assumes his own particular handful of Earth , if there shou'd be more Men than Earth , — Ha , — Some Souls must go without Bodies ; which is very absurd . — Nor is it very reasonable , that the Earth shou'd not every Bit of it be made into Men , that when they come to take every one their own , there may be no Earth left ; and then 't is an easie thing for the last Fire to consume the other Elements . No , — that won't do neither ; — for I 'd forgot that Man is made of all the Elements ; and therefore when all the Earth is spent in making Men , the Elements must be spent likewise , that is , the whole Earth , Air , Fire and Water , will ( when every one takes their own , ) be equally divided , and march up and down an Eternal Indefinite Space , or Vacuum , in living Glorify'd Humanity . — Very well , — now I have it ; There were at first 9999999999 Spirits , and there 's just so many handful of Dust in the Earth . Now if I cou'd tell how many Spirits are yet unbody'd , 't is but subtracting the Remainder from the first Number , and the difference is the Handfuls of Earth that are yet to be made into Men ; and when I know this , I shall know how long it will be before I shall be re-united again to my Body , which I was separated from about 3000 Years since . — Methinks I long to renew the old Acquaintance . 1 Sp. — What Mathematical Soul is this that's computing the Day of Iudgment ? It has always been too deep a Secret for Humanity to pry into . 2 Sp. — I have laid by that dull heavy Lump a great while since . 1 Sp. — But 't is said , that Angels themselves are ignorant of that Day . 2 Sp. — Yes , they were so at that time , when such Words were spoken , because they knew not how fast Spirits wou'd be unbodied , or how the Age of Man might shorten ; nor consequently how long it wou'd be before the World was made into Men ; but if you can give me an Account how many Spirits are yet unbody'd , I will tell you just now how long it is till the Day of Iudgment . 1 Sp. — None of 'em but my self . 2 Sp. — How ! are all the 999999999 Souls ( which were made upon the same day that the Angels were ) sent into Bodies , except you ? 1 Sp. — Yes , all but my self ; I 've just now parted with my last Companion . 2 Sp. — If so , the date of your pre-existence is just at an end ; perhaps within this quarter of a Minute ; for there 's always some young Body or other gaping for a Soul to actuate it . 1 Sp. — I shall be very glad of it ; for 't is afflicting to be the only remaining Creature of one Species . 2 Sp. — 'T is so . But — 1 Sp. — Farewel ; I am call'd away too , and with me the whole Race of unbodied Souls lose their Name , and change their very Nature . 2 Sp. — Is he gone ? — I knew it cou'd not be long that he had to tarry , — Let me see ; — No , — That won't do ; — That 's right ; upon a modest computation , the World must expire within these 70 Years ; for it 's great odds this last unbodied Soul will be separated again before that Period : Besides , there must be some left alive , which will undergo the same change without dying , as the Body and Soul will do at their Re-union ; therefore perhaps within these 70 all will be over . — Now methinks I see that little share of Dust that belongs to me , receive its first Impression , and beckon to me to renew our old Acquaintance and Union ; Methinks I see my self as eager in my Embraces of my old Comrade , and as busie in exercising my Offices of Perception , &c. as ever . But I 'm at a loss as to the manner how , because of the inexpressible Change that my Organs must undergo . But I 'll let that Thought alone . sinc● I 'm satisfy'd , Experience will teach me , that and every thing else within a very small Revolution of Time. DIALOGUE XXIX . Betwixt Two Spirits ; one that pretends to deny Pre-existence , and the other to prove it . 1 Spirit . — WHat am I ? Whence is my Original ? And to what end am I design'd ? 2 Sp. — You are a pre-existent Spirit , made upon the — Day of the Creation ; Your Original is Nothingness , as to the Subject ; but as to the Cause , it is the Eternal Mind . ; who , when he sees fitting , will provide you a Body to act in . 1 Sp. — What do you mean ? For my part , I believe you and I are both of us just now created ; but if you are pre-existent , and it now is 5000 Years and more since the beginning of your Existence , pray answer me , How many Sons Adam had ; what part of the Year the World was made in ; but don't answer after the old Evasion , viz. at all times of the Year ; but in what Sign the Sun was first placed ? 2 Sp. — I have forgot now , 't is so long since . 1 Sp. — I thought Reminiscence had been co-essential with , or a part of the Nature of Spirits ; for according to the best Definitions , the Soul is a Cogitative Faoulty . Now if Thinking , Disposing , Meditating , Examining , Compounding , Dividing , Apprehending , Joyning the Subject and the Attribute , Affirming ; Denying , Suspending , &c ▪ be the Function and Natural Acts of the Soul , it is necessary that Memory be an essential Attribute of it ; for how is it possible to compare two things together , unless we remember the First after we have examin'd the Second ; for to think of two Things at once , is impossible , and it is so granted by all that make a due distinction between a Finite and an Infinite Being ; being what comes nearest this Act , is the quick distinction of Letters in Reading , or the swift , yet regular Motion of the Fingers in Musick . Now since Reminiscence is co-essential with Souls , an Argument may be drawn from hence to prove you degenerate , if not a Non Existent . 2 Sp. — That I have a Being I 'm certain , and this Converse with you , demonstrates it . 1 Sp. — Come , I 'll grant you for once , that you are pre-existent , if you 'll grant me , that my Body which I 'm just now going into , is also pre-existent , and was created before Adam had a Being ; but I 'll ask for no Concessions , which I 'll not first deserve by demonstration : — For I may prove my Body contemporary with Adam's altho' not visible till above 5000 Years after he was created . 2 Sp. — Pray how can that be ? 1 Sp. — When Matter was created , 't was a great Store-house of all other Beings that were to be created from it , all which lay confusedly sleeping in their Chaos ; but of this Lump was Adam created ; and if so , he himself was potentially in it before he had a specifick Being . After his Creation , he was maintain'd from the productions of Earth and Water , by a destruction of , or more properly , through a conversion of their Natures into his . Hence Adam's Children were only a Transmutation of other material Bodies , or the Effect of Meat and Drink in new Figures , which lay once in such and such Creatures , and before that in the material Chaos we first spoke of . Now since the Mechanism of Nature is order'd that it cannot be destroy'd ( unless by its Author , ) but only transmuted or chang'd into other Matter ; as a Fire that burns , part of it goes to Ashes , part into Soot , part into Air , but yet is always somewhere , or in some thing ; so that all the visible Changes we see , are nothing else but a conversion of one Element into another backwards and forwards , according to the adaptness and modifications of Agents and Patients ; This consider'd , it will plainly appear , that that Body which I am just now going into , was the last year part of it growing in such a Crop of Corn , part of it in such an Apple●tree , part of it in such a River , part of it in such an Ox , Sheep , Fowl , &c. and only by a proper Revolution of Particles under different Species , so adaptly disposited , that Nature found the Composition to fit one new distinct Species by it self ; and according to its Commission , or first Settled Chain of Causes produc'd a humane Body , fit for the Actuation and Conjunction of a Spirit . Hence 't is manifest my Body was as soon in the Bosom of its Causes as Adam's , and the last Body that shall be created , as soon as mine . Nay , to go farther , since from Eternity the great Creator did design to make a World , from which my Body was to be produced , I might say , that my Body was from all Eternity designedly and potentially , tho' actually in time , ; which is the utmost that can be said of the Pre existence of Spirits . And I defie every Spirit in the Universe , to prove the least difference in Time betwixt the actual Commencement of the Existence of its Body , and its self , or that the Potentiality of both is not equal , to wit , eternal . 1 Sp. This Argument wou'd hold , if it cou'd be prov'd , That the Soul is not so clogg'd and incapacitated in its Act of Reminiscence by coming into the Body , but that it might easily recollect what has happen'd in its pre existent state , For we have innumerable Instances of the Soul's being more incapacitated in its Functions one time than another , in the same Body , and this by Fits , Distractions , Diseases , &c. Which to me appears demonstrative , that if the Indispositions of the Body , which are only accidental , hinder a regular operation of the Soul ; much more may the Body it self , when first ty'd to , and made coessential with it . 2 Sp. We 'll grant , much depends on the Body , as to the Mode of Perception and action , but not so very much as is suppos'd ; To mention that leisure time of Dreams ; When perhaps the Body and Soul have the least actual dependance one of another , we shall find the habit of Reminiscence fresh at awaking again ; but to shew for once , that the Soul does not forget what it acts when separate from the Body , by reason of the Body's indisposition . Consider the Cases of Trances , Examinations of Witches , &c. what think ye of a Soul that has rambled out of the Body for two or three days together , and when it has return'd , and the Body reviv'd , it has told of infallible Truths some hundred Miles distance , where it self actually was : This we have hundreds of creditable Instances to prove ? which consider'd , does fully ( from the first presuppos'd consequence of Reminiscence , ) destroy the Doctrine of Pre-existence . 1 Sp , — Well , I shall consider of it as soon as I have any leisure ; in the mean time Farewel . 2 Sp. — Farewel . FINIS .