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Keying and markup guidelines are available at the Text Creation Partnership web site . eng Society of Friends -- Controversial literature. Inner Light. 2006-09 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2006-09 Aptara Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2007-01 Emma (Leeson) Huber Sampled and proofread 2007-01 Emma (Leeson) Huber Text and markup reviewed and edited 2007-02 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion Antichrist's strongest Hold overturned : OR , The Foundation of the Religion of the People called QUAKERS , Bared and Razed , In a DEBATE had with some of them in the Castle at Lancaster , AND IN An Additional Account of the Light within . Wherein is shewed , 1. That their first Principle is a Lye. 2. That their Christ is not the true Jesus . 3. That their Idolatry is worse and more dangerous then Jeroboam's or the Papists . 4. That their Principle denies the great mystery of godliness , departs from the Faith , and leads to give attendance to the doctrine of Daemons . Here also is shewed the occasion of their Rise and Growth , together with the right way of discovering their secret delusions . Lastly , the best things that the best of this people pretend to own , are here mentioned and allowed . Hereunto is annexed an APPENDIX , Wherein their evil language is discovered , and compared with the language of the false Prophets . All which is published ( at the desire of certain friends , some of whose Letters are prefixt ) for common benefit , By J. W. 1 Tim. 4. 1. Now the Spirit speaketh expresly , that in the later times some shall depart from the faith , giving heed to seducing spirits , and doctrines of devils . 1 Ioh. 5. 21. Little children , keep your selves from idols . 2 Joh. 7. For many deceivers are entred into the world , who confess not that Christ is come in the flesh : this is a deceiver , and an Antichrist . London , Printed for the Author , in the year 1665. An ADVERTISEMENT , To all the faithful followers of the Lamb in Lancashire , in and about Manchester , Warrington and Lancaster ; And to all in every place that love the Lord Jesus Christ in sincerity , to whose view the following Discourse may come . AS it was my desire and disposition ( during the time of my imprisonment amongst the people called Quakers ) to live peaceably , and to avoid contests with them ; So when I was forced ( for truths sake ) to a debate with them , and afterwards to give forth a relation thereof , together with an account of the light within man , there was not the least intention , or inclination in me to commit my papers to the Press , until many friends ( having perused them ) did ( as appears by the first letters prefixed to the following discourse ) with many arguments urge me to make them more publick ; Which thereupon I resolved speedily to do , and to that end did review , and transcribe them , with some enlargement , as they are hereafter in this book presented . Afterwards it being suggested by some , that it was not a season to print against this people , being great sufferers , lest it should adde affliction to their bonds ; I did thereupon lay aside my papers for divers months ; And was the more easily inclined thereto , not simply because they are sufferers , But , 1. For that they ( which is much more the duty of others who owne the truth as it is in Jesus , and that worship which is prescribed by himself ) do stand fast in the defence of their liberty , publickly owning that worship which they judge ( though erroneously ) agreeable to truth , notwithstanding any humane Law to the contrary : And , 2. That in respect of the powers imposing upon them without warrant from the Lord , ( though in respect of the wrong they do to the man Christ Jesus , to his Gospel , and to their own souls , they be far from innocencie ) they suffer as Innocents , as ( if thus understood ) they do often truly call themselves . And hence it is , that ( in greatest probability ) the Laws made against them , and their prosecutors , have not hitherto had , nor will hereafter have any better success , then the persecutors of the Innocent in all ages have had , whose violence was never blest to convert any from the errour of his way , but hath always been an effectual means as to confirm and strengthen the persecuted in his way , ( yea , though a mistaken and erroneous way , as is evident in this people at this day ) so to bring swift and inevitable destruction upon themselves . Yet notwithstanding , being again called upon , and desired by divers to go on with this work , I had these following Considerations encouraging thereto . 1. Many judicious and sober persons , who judge the work may be for common benefit , do call for its publication . 2. The discourse is not level'd against their persons , nor against any appearance that is commendable in them , but onely against their Errors and miscarriages ; Nor are those in power stir'd up against them ; but on the contrarie , their violence is witnessed against . 3. An endeavour to recover some out of the snare of the devil , and to prevent the apostacy of others ( which are aymed at in this undertaking ) is such an absolute duty , as may not be suspended , out of fear that some who have the sword in their hand should take advantage thereby to abuse their power . 4. By how much this people are carried out to suffer above many others , and by this fair shew in the flesh are apt to glory in their way , as the only way to life , and that many ( unable or negligent in the tryal of spirits and principles ) are liable to be snared and taken by them ; by so much it seems more necessarie , at this time , to discover the sandie foundation upon which their whole building stands , and how pernitious it will prove to their souls who build thereon , that Sathans deep designe in drawing men thereto being unveiled poor weak and unstable souls may better discerne that their glorying in their sufferings , yea in giving their bodies to be burned upon the account of such a foundation , is vain . 5. Lastly , and especially , in as much as the principle contended against , doth not only deny the man Christ Jesus , and make void his sufferings , death , and blood , with their effects , but that Satan hereby would dethrone him , and by this most subtil way of changing himself into an Angel of light , would get into the Temple of God , and shew himself as God , that he may be worshipped as God ; I account it my dutie ( what ever the effect may be ) to be found faithfull to my dear Head the Lord Jesus Christ , in discovering ( according to the measure of light received from him ) this secret and last designe of his and his peoples grand adversarie ; to the end that he may ( through the blessing of the blessed and only Potentate upon these weak endeavours ) receive such a blow , that neither he nor his ministers who be transformed as the ministers of righteousness , may proceed any further . Thus , dear friends , you have an account of the principal motives which ( after some delay ) have prevailed with me to present these Papers to publike view . It 's probable the old enemy , whose strong-hold is here undermined , will rage yet more against me , and be active in the spirits of some to follow me with such language as you may read in the Appendix ; but I matter not the judgement of mans day ; the Lord who searcheth the heart knows , that the honour of his Name , and the undeceiving and saving of precious souls , is more to me then a name among men , yea then my own life . But I beseech you , let no prejudice nor reproaches cast upon me , or this Work , hinder you from a serious perusal of it . It 's likely many of you may be as sheep scattered without a shepherd ; and your adversary , who goes about like a roaring lion , will seek all advantages against you ; and his ministers will be ( in this dark hour of temptation ) the more industrious to make merchandise of your souls . Oh Remember the Apostles exhortation , 2 Joh. 8. Look to your selves , &c. Believe not every spirit , but try the spirits whether they are of God , because many false prophets are gone out into the world . And among all the deceivers that Christ foretold should come , there are none more subtil , nor lead into more pernitious wayes , then the leaders and teachers of this people , with whom I have to do . O consider what need you have to be alwaies upon your watch ; take heed , whom and what you hear ; and in a special manner be careful that you bottom upon a right foundation , Jesus Christ , God and man in union , who in his own person without us , hath wrought a great salvation ; having finished transgression , made an end of sin , abolished condemnation and death for us . And if any man , or an Angel from Heaven , should not bring this doctrine , and point you unto a crucified and glorified Jesus for access to God ; receive him not into your house , neither bid him God speed . Neither let it suffice you , thus to behold redemption wrought for you in the person of the Mediatour without you , but minde his comming down in spirit into your hearts to manifest this redemption , and to live and work in you as a quickening spirit ; and let it be your care , as to live , so to walk in the spirit . And the Lord grant that you being rooted and ●uilt up in him , and stablished in the faith , may henceforth be no more Children tossed to and fro , and carried about with every winde of doctrine , by the slight of men , and cunning craftiness whereby they lie in weight to deceive ; but may keep your selves in the love of God , looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life : so prayes Your Brother and Companion in Tribulation , and in the Kingdome and patience of Jesus Christ , J. W. Mo. 1. the 15 day , 1665. Here follow two LETTERS from several Friends to the Author , desiring the Publication of this Dispute , &c. Dear Friend and Brother , WE received yours with the inclosed Manuscript , containing a relation of a Debate you had with the Quakers , An account of the Light within , and An Appendix : all which we have as we could perused , but yet not so as we intend and desire ; onely did hastily run it over , being willing as many as could conveniently might see it or hear it , before we set upon the transcribing of it , for then it must of necessity lie still a while . And lest we might either discourage , or not comfort you in so good a work ( as we can bless the Lord for from our hearts ) by making no return till we have got it writ over ; we thought it meet to give you a few Lines from a few of us , so signifie the receipt of it , also our acceptance of it , and hearty agreement with you in it ; and do believe the good hand of the Lord was in it , to make your condition a necessity upon you , by his wise-ordering providence , to encounter this strong man in his strong hold ( the light within ) with which this spirit of delusion hath run thorow the dark world , and by it kindled some sparks upon the reliques of old Adam , but brought nothing to light of a crucified Saviour , nor of the bloud of his Cross , by which we have peace with God : but contrariwise , hath reviled us in making mention of this way of peace , rather glorying in their own cross , then in the Cross of Christ , keeping a catalogue of their own wounds and sufferings , filling all places with Prints of them ; but never mention the sufferings , wounds and death of him through whose stripes we are healed ; which hath been to us as another Gospel then that which our Lord brought to light , and was afterwards preached by his disciples , and glorified in by good Paul , when others glorified in the flesh : this is that Gospel we have heard and received , ( through the workings of his grace ) how that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures , and that he was buried , and that he rose again the third day according to the Scriptures , and ascended far above all the heavens of this creation into heaven it self , there to a ppear before God for us our blessed high-Priest , and onely Advocate , to whom we desire always to look , that we may not sin against him : this is our Kings high-way , in which the way faring man , though a fool , shall not erre . We confess there is a righteousness that is more agreeable unto man , unto which he is more enclined ( as that liquor which this vessel of the natural man had first in it ) we hope without offence we may say ) not onely then this righteousness of Christ by faith , but then unrighteousness : and upon this spark may this light fall , and make man to walk in the light of it , but shall never place man again in that garden of Gods presence with him , making all things delightful to him , out of which after mans fall God drove him , and hath ever since placed such a guard as shall for ever keep man from coming that way . Nay , an as it were in this matter may not be admitted under the administration of the Gospel ; nor is there any name given by which we shall be saved but that Name which is above all names , unto which all things shall bow : this is the Fathers Christ , and our Jesus , who when he came in the flesh was not ministred unto , but did himself minister , and became a servant : but our God , who also is Christs God , hath highly exalted him . This Gospel we have never heard nor felt from these folks , but on the contrary derided with scornful expressions , when we have gone about thus to argue any thing with them ; and in stead of words of soberness , in the evidence of Scripture-light , we have had such returns as you have met with , as many in this County can evidence clearly for us , as their own Papers do for you , under their own hands . Nor are we willing to rip up the remembrance of things upon any other account , then if it be the Lords will some among them might be reduced , and the Lord may give them repentance unto life ; and do hope there may be such a blessing in this Labour of yours , God having directed you not to insist upon any thing less then their All , viz. That the light with which every one is enlightned that comes into the world , is not a saving light : this is that which we have believed , but have not had ability to bring it forth in so orderly a way , fit for publick view , as we finde the Lord hath enabled you ; but rejoyce to have this opportunity to set to our assent to what the Lord hath given forth by you , and further desire you would permit it to the Press . And these two things move us to desire this from you : partly , that we have not seen any thing in Print that hath met with their Master-piece as this doth ; as also the persons undertaking have one way or other had something of disadvantage , as you have hinted in your Appendix : nor have they owned those good things in them , which ought to be owned : and we can say we could wish not onely for our selves , but for all that call upon the Name of our Lord Jesus , that our conversations among men might more glorifie our Father in heaven . And then the other reason is , inasmuch as the Lord hath made you instrumental , and given you utterance for us in this place , where these people ( so far as we can understand ) had their first gathering into a company . And if they may yet hear , or others fear , and that spirit of Antichrist discovered , that the Lord alone may be exalted , and our glorying may be together in the Cross of our Lord Jesus , whom we may designe to exalt together , though we be made but as a footstool to this end , we have the desire of our hearts . Excuse this unintended tedious Scribble , and pass by the Errata's of it , which are many , and accept of our thankfulness to your for your pains : and we hope we shall not be negligent to acknowledge the grace of God to you in this matter , and continue to present you to the Lord in that liberty he hath given us of access to the Father through him , in whom we are Your faithful Brethren , though weak ones , in the faith of him who is the Head of all things , and true Heir , W. L. J. R. J. S. R. S. Mo. 6 the 1 day , 1664. Dearly Beloved in our Lord Jesus , HAving with much satisfaction perused the Papers of your dispute at Lancaster , with the people called Quakers , we desire hereby heartily to bless the Lord on your behalf , owning his singular goodness in that his gracious leading in this service of truth , whereby beside your suffering and witness for your holy profession he called you to , we now see the further ends of the Father in sending you to that place ; that even there , where as we have heard this people had their first rise in this Nation , they should receive so eminent a discovery and foyl ; having also by his good Spirit so directed and enabled you to deal with the very spirit and Principle , and that with the principal of their party ( then prisoners with you ) whereby that mystery of iniquity , and spirit of Antichrist is ( blessed be his Name ) very much detected , and that not onely by the uncontrollable evidence of truth from the light of his holy Word , but by that arrogant , proud , frothy , raging , ridiculous , vain , erring spirit , so abundantly discovered all along herein from themselves ; which we intreat you for the Truths sake to make publike with all speed , that word being worthy to be weighed by you for encouragement , 2 Tim. 3. 8 , 9. where the Apostle prophetically speaking of such corrupt mindes , reprobate concerning the faith , like Jannes and Jambres resisting the truth , saith ( for encouragement ) They shall proceed no further : for their folly shall be made manifest , as theirs also was : the making manifest of whose folly being the way to stop●t the proceeding and growth , which we are perswaded is as acceptable service as any of the Lords servants can engage in ; and the rather , because under the specious pretences of humility , self-denyal , justice , righteousness , moderation , patient suffering , they have abundantly gained ground & reputation to the spreading of their detestable errors , & by their fair words , and feigned speeches , have greatly deceived the hearts of many simple ones ; & more especially in such an evil day as this , wherein the pride , vanity , formality and apostacy of too too many professors of truth has appeared : but we have a long time through grace been enabled to discern their deceivings , and to see through the depth of their cheat , and fully satisfyed that these following Scriptures evidently foretel them , and that accordingly they are now sadly manifest to the fulfilling thereof , Viz. 2 Cor. 11. 13 , 14. For such are false apostles , deceitful workers , transforming themselves into the Apostles of Christ : and no marvel , for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light ; therefore it is no great thing if his ministers be also transformed as the ministers of righteousness : whose end shall be according to their works . Matth. 24. 4 , 5. And Jesus said unto them , Take heed that no man deceive you : for many shall come in my Name , saying , I am Christ , and shall deceive many . And there shall arise false Christs and false Prophets , and shall shew great signes and wonders , insomuch that if it were possible they shall deceive the very elect . Behold , I have told you before . 1 Tim. 4. 12. Now the Spirit speaks expresly , that in the later days some shall depart from the saith , giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils , speaking lyes in hypocrisie , having their consciences seared with a hot iron . 2 Pet. 2. 1. But there were false prophets also amongst the people , even as there shall be false teachers among you , who privily shall bring in damnable heresies , even denying the Lord that bought them , and bring upon themselves swift destruction : and many shall follow their pernicious ways , by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of . 1 Joh. 4. 1 , 2 , 3. Beloved , believe not every spirit , but try the spirits whether they are of God , because many false prophets are gone out into the world . Hereby know ye the spirit of God : every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh , is of God ; and every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh , is not of God : and this is the spirit of Antichrist , whereof you have heard that it shall come , and even now already is in the world . 2 Joh. 7 , 9. For many deceivers are entred into the world , who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh : this is a deceiver and an Antichrist . Whosoever transgresseth and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ , hath not God , &c. Oh how visibly manifest are these Scriptures fulfilled in this generation now among us ! who under pretence of Christs Apostles , Ministers of righteousness , Angels of God , men immediately inspired with the Spirit , in the very state of perfection , crying up Christ within , they blaspheme , traduce , deny the man Christ Jesus the Son of God , both in his name , nature , offices , doctrine . How do they introduce another Gospel , Ministery , Spirit , other Ordinances , another justification , Salvation , Resurrection , another Heaven , Hell , then the Scriptures witness to ! Nay , how many have called themselves Christ the Son of God , and have undeniably these characters of the Antichristian spirit foretold by John upon them , denying not onely the doctrine of Christ , but Christ himself to be come in the flesh , under pretence of his being come in their flesh ; and have eminently manifested themselves to be the sons of Hymeneus that blasphemer , who said the resurrection was past already , overthrowing the faith of some : which Hymenean doctrine was attested not many days since by some of their number , to one of us , in a Conference with them , and that before several witnesses , saying , The dead bodies that lie in the graves are not to rise again , neither are we to expect any other resurrection , heaven , hell , judgement , then what is within us , and past upon us here . To whom it was replied , that then their faith and hope was vain , and they were yet in their sins , and in a damnable estate : and why then did they suffer , if the dead rise not ? and that such doctrine undeniably led to sensuality , to eat , drink , and play , &c. wholly razing out all principles both of morality and Christianity : which is well known to be their principle , though the cunning among them subtilly gloss it over , knowing what offence it generally gives . Oh that the poor deluded sincere among them might see the gulph they are plunged into , and that your endeavour might be blest to the opening their eyes , and undeceiving them . Surely if that one Scripture was weighed by them , it might be of use , That men may give their bodies to be burnt , and all their goods to the poor , and profit not , and be but as sounding brass and a tinkling cymbal : and that is the principle from which , and the end whereto every work is done , that renders it acceptable . And Oh that this may be blest to keep all upright hearts from falling into this ditch . It is the express word of our Lord , Go not after them , neither follow them . Prov. 19. 27. Cease , my son , to hear the instruction that causeth to erre from the ways of knowledge . Surely principles , spirits and doctrines are to be weighed and tryed as well as conversation : and them would these seeming Angels appear Devils ; for Satan can come forth as an angel of light . But how do they rage , and like the waves of the sea foaming out their own shame , when brought to the Word for tryal ! which is no small discovery of their spirit : this is one of the tryals God has suffered to come upon his people , as Deut. 13. 3. to prove whether they will love the Lord their God with all their heart and all their soul . How long hath the Pope by all his power and policie endeavoured to get the Bible from Professors , and not prevailed ! but this spiritual Antichrist doth it speedily and effectually . But let grace be magnified , that keeps any out of their snares : and let it be seriously laid to heart , that so many are snared and taken in their net . And lastly , since Singularity and Conversation is so taking to propagate Errour , and such damnable Errour too ; how should it provoke the children of Truth , that prize and would promote it , to press more after an excellent conversation , that the poor world seeing their good works , viz. the humility , love , patience , meekness , zeal , courage , temperance , holiness , wisdom , gravity , may glorifie their heavenly Father . And let such a foolish people shame and provoke his people therein at this day , Phil. 4. 8. and , as you well observe , let the good in them be owned and imitated , and their evil detected and avoided . And that the good Lord who has so far guided and blest you herein , may still continue so to do , to the advancement of his glory , and furtherance of truth , as you have designed , and we heartily desire , is and shall be the prayer of Your unworthy Brethren , fellow●labourers , and Companions with you in the Faith , Kingdom and Patience of our Lord Jesus , J. D. N. S. London this 10 day of the 1 month , 1665 The Reader is desired ( before he peruse these books ) to amend with his pen these errors and mistakes of the Press : smaller errors , as of adding or substracting letters , or mistaking the stops , the sence will somwhat help him in . PAge 14. line 30. after these words , in that day , add Neh. 9. 30. p. 17. l. 2. for u and nshaken , read and unshaken . p. 20. l. 3. for 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 read 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 . p. 25. l. 32. for adopted , read adapted . p. 26. l. 8 , read a law . p. 30 l. 32. for shall read should . p. 31. l. 18. read that he is guiltie . p. 40. l. 4. read all things are wrought . p. 43. l. 2. add after these words , the word was with God , and the word was God. p. 47. l. 20. for thankfulness read faithfulness . p. 63. l. 4. read seriously consider . To Randolph Hunter and Thomas Hardy , Deputy-Gaolers of the Castle at Lancaster , to be by them communica●ed to any who may desire satisfaction concerning the difference between the people called Quakers , and J. W. Loving ●riends , HAving peru●ed a Paper published and put into the hands of one , or both of you , by the Quakers so called ▪ touching a dispute between them and the Baptists at Lancaster Castle , and finding it confused , partial , and in some passages untrue , t●nding to the reproach of truth , and the swallowing up the simple in errors ; for the vindication of the one , and out of tender compassion towards the other , I have given forth the following Relation , whereby the sober and unbiassed Christian may perceive that I was provoked to the debate , as I am to this account , by the forementioned paper , and the high boastings of some of this people since that meeting . Though I have more to say in defence of the truth I plead for , then was mentioned in that debate , yet I only set down such Arguments as were then propounded , though here more distinctly and fully then the confusion of that meeting would allow . As for the detecting of their personal carriages , I mention nothing but what was first publikely exprest or acted by them ; & I the rather do it , that they may consider and take shame to themselves , if peradventure God may give them repentance , and that others may be warned to take heed of that spirit that sends forth such bitter and unsavoury fruits : And that the simple and tender-hearted among them may be reclaimed from the error of their way , I have given an additional account of the Light in every man , shewing ( according to my measure received from the Lord ) what it is , and the utmost use of it ; with a particular explication of several Scriptures , especially John 1. 9. Furthermore , if any of them shall yet persist to maintain their errors , here you will find an offer further to debate the difference betwixt us before any person in the Commission of Peace . Lastly , l●st any should account me an enemy to every thing this people hold and practice , & thereupon should trample upon that which is good and commendable , together with their errors , here is an account of several particulars allowable in them , for which I am ready to suffer as well as they . If the whole seem too tedious for your perusal ( which indeed is much larger then was first intended ) by the Marginal notes you are directed to the several branches of the Discourse , and so you may either read all , or that part wherein you chiefly desire satisfaction . ●o . Wigan . 3d M. 10. d. 1664. A true Relation of the occasion and manner of a debate held in the Castle at Lancaster , the 17th day of the first Month ( vulgo March ) 1663-64 . between J. W. and George Fox , John Stubs , and many others of the People called Quakers , about the Light within . Together with true Copies of divers Letters and other Writings which passed between them and me . Also an Additional Account of the Light that is in every man , shewing what it is , what it can do , and what it cannot do ; wherein Henry Wood and others may find that which answers their Queries . HAving been Prisoner at the aforesaid place divers weeks , upon the 23. of the 12 th Month ( commonly called February ) I was put into a Chamber near unto many of the aforesaid people , being also prisoners ; their way and mine leading through a common Hall , we passed by one another peaceably about 12. dayes , viz. till the 5th day of the next Month ; upon which day one Thomas Curwen said unto me ( as I quietly passed through the Hall ) Friend , leave off thy deceiving the people ; thou art a Deceiver . My answer was mild , to this purpose ; Saist thou so ; consider well what thou hast said , and whether thou canst make good thy word , and tell me as I come back , whom I have deceived , or wherewith I have deceived any , or how thou canst prove me a Deceiver ? As I turned from him , he further uttered these words , Thou teachest the way , and knowest it not thy self . By which I supposed he would have made good his assertion , viz. That I was a deceiver . At my return I told him , and some other of his Friends , That I looked upon his censure to be very rash and g●oundless , and that little of truth would be found in his saying , That I taught the way , and knew it not my self ; inasmuch as it is not possible for any man to teach that which he knoweth not . But instead of proving what he had said , he passed more censures upon me , as , That I was a stranger , and that he knew my voi●e to be voice of a stranger . Likewise William Wilson , another of them , used some harsh expressions towards me , I having said , They neglected some Ordinances of Christ , as Baptism , and breaking of bread : He told me I upheld beggarly rudiments : So I left them , and went to my Chamber . The same day towards evening a Letter was brought to me by one of these people , subscribed with the Name of Tho. C●rwen , a true Copy whereof followeth . Friend , John Wiggans , whereas thou was offended because I called thee a Deceiver , and said thou teached the way to others , and knew'st it not thy self : Although the words seem to be improper to thee , yet thou maist read how the Apostle said , Some preached Christ who was the way , the truth and the life , and yet such who so preached him , knew him not , but were , alse Apostles , transforming themselves as the Ministers of Righteousness . And now I would have thee mind , whether thou thy self be not in their footsteps who thus preached Christ , and so a Dec●iver : And answer me these Queries as followeth . 1. Whether thy way never fell ? 2. Where be all the daubers ? 3. Whether all the Ministers of Adams house in the fall , daubed not with untempered morter ? 4. Whether or no while a man 's upon the earth , he shall be made free from the body of sin and death , while he is on this side the grave ? 5. And whether Christ doth enlighten every man that comes into the world with a saving Light ? 6. Whether is bread and wine , Christ the substance ? 7. And how long hast thou taken bread and wine in remembrance of Christs death till he come ? 8. And whether or no when he is come , thou wilt take it in remembrance of him ? 9. And which is the nearest , to take a thing in remembrance of his de●th , or to come into his death ? 10. And whether or no thou thinkest to come any nearer to Christ , than to take bread and water in remembrance of him ? 11. And whether or no dost thou think to come any nearer to Christs death , than to take bread and wine in remembrance of his death , and so keep alive in the old nature ? And is not this the deceiver ? 12. Hast thou known the death , the pangs and the sorrow ? And art thou become a fool for Christs sake ? And is the wisdom of the world foolishness to thee ? And in what place buriest thou thy own ? 13. And how comes thou to receive that which is foolishness to the world ? and how wast thou wakened out of sleep ? and when did the grave open ? and when did the Prisoner shew himself forth ? 14. And when did the tongue of the dumb sing ? 15. And when was the tongue of the first-born silent ? 16. And when wast thou come to thy wits end ? 17. And how often hast thou watered thy couch ? 18. And what is the tongue of the learned ? 19. And what is the gray hairs ? 20. And what is it that Antichrist and the false Prophets r●vened from ? and where was it ? 21. And when did the keeper of the house tremble , and the strong man bow himself ? 22. And hast thou the same power and spirit to baptize , and give bread and wine , as the Apostles had ? and hast thou heard the voice of Christ , as they did ? 23. And seeing thou takest offence at me because I called thee a Deceiver , what is the true way , and where is it ? and whether all mankind be enlightened by it ? and whether it be in man , or out ? 24. And whether or no thou hast seen it , or heard it , or heard the voice of God , or seen his shape ? Answer me these Queries in a Scripture way , in writing , and bring forth thy deeds to the light , or else I do intend to stick a Copy of them on the door to morrow . From thy Friend , Thomas Curwen . 1. M. 5. d ▪ 1663 / 4. Directed , For John Wiggans , These . Having perused this Letter , and perceiving the advantage that was sought by limiting so short a time for the answering his queries , and by threatning to stick a Copy of them upon the door the next day , if they were not answered ; tho most of the queries were frivolous , and matters of more weight were under my consideration , yet lest my silence should occasion boasting , to which they are very propense , I presently drew up the answer following to that query which concerns the foundation of most of their mistakes , viz. The Light within . Thomas Curwen , I received a Paper ( a few hours ago ) subscribed with thy Name , wherein thou ( or some one for thee ) writes that I was offended because thou calledst me a deceiver ; and saidst , I taught the way to others , and knew it not my self ; It becomes persons that say they have received the annointing from the holy one , even the same Spirit that was in the Prophets and Apostles , and gave forth the holy Scriptures , always to speak forth the words of truth and soberness : When thou calledst me a deceiver , I did not say I was offended , nor did I give cause for thee to mention this word in thy paper : But this I demanded of thee , and do still , That thou make it to appear whom I have deceived , or wherewith I have deceived any , or else there will be little of truth or soberness found in thy saying . And as for thy saying I taught the way to others , and knew it not my self , by which thou wouldst have proved me a deceiver , it will be hard for thee or any of thy friends to find truth in it ; for no man can teach others to know that which he himself knows not ; and therefore I say ( as thou writest ) thy words are at best improper . And whereas thou writest that I may read how the Apostle said some preached Christ who was the way , the truth and the life , and yet such who so preached him , knew him not , but were false Apostles , transforming themselves as the Ministers of Righteousness ; I would have thee soberly to consider whether thou hast dealt truly and faithfully with the Apostle in relating his own words : And tell me where thou readest , That the Apostle said , That some preached Christ who was the way , the truth and life , and yet knew him not ? It 's true , the Apostle speaks of false Apostles , deceitful workers , transforming themselves into the Apostles of Christ ; but these preached not the true Christ , the way , the truth and the life , but as the Ministers of Satan , they rather taught another Jesus , and another Gospel than the Apostles had taught ; and as I am willing to take a ●aution from thee , or any other man that gives it in love and meekness , so I would have thee and the rest of thy friends , in fear and meekness to consider , whether ye set not up another Christ than the Apostle preached . As for thy 24 queries , I shall not satisfie thee , or any other queriest to answer their questions , which tend rather to strife than edification , though I have in readiness to answer thee or any other man that shall in love ask me a reason of the hope that is in me : And though I think it not meet at this time to answer all thy queries , yet whereas thou askest ? Whether Christ doth not enlighten every man that comes into the world with a saving Light ? I answer , That the Light wherewith every man is lighted * that comes into the world , is not a saving Light ; and this I shall ( through the strength of Christ ) be ready to maintain against thee , or any of thy friends who hold the contrary , where , and when a meeting may be had in a peaceable and quiet way , and before compe●ent Witnesses . As for thy threatning to stick thy paper upon the door , I value it not , but would have thee seriously to consider , whether that expression proceeded from the holy Spirit . This is all at present from Thy Friend , Jo. Wigan . 1. M. 5 d. 1663-64 . A second Letter from Tho. Curwen . The next morning being the sixt day of the first month , the following Letter was brought to my hand , with this inscription , For John Wigans . John Wigans , Whereas I sent thee a few Queries to answer , but thou seemes to have slighted , and passed by all except one , that is to say the first Querie , whether Christ doth enlighten every man that comes into the world with a saving light . And thy answer is , That every man which comes into the world is not inlightned with a saving light . And this thou will maintain against me , or any of my friends , who hold the contrary , when , and where a meeting may he had in a peaceable way , before competent witnesses , and this is to let thee understand , that I , and some of my friends with me , if the Lord will , doth intend to give thee a visit tomorrow , about the first hour , or second , in thy Chamber to treate about this above mentioned both with thee , and all who is of thy ju●gment , that may come to thee : but yet I let thee know , this cannot serve for all my Queries , for I intend to set the Paper upon the dore according to my word . from thy friend Thomas Curwen . This sixth day of the first Month. According to his word his Queries were the same day set upon the Hall door , though he had no regard to make good his word concerning me , nor yet to clear himself from the wrong done to the Apostle , who no where useth such words as he fathers upon him . In the evening therefore of the same day I writ the following Answer to his second Letter . Thomas Curwen , In thy seccond Paper which was brought to my hands this day , whether with a purpose to disturb is best known to thy self . Thou dost not make good thy word , spoken concerning me , nor yet acknowledg thy mistake therein , nor the abuse done by thee to the Apostle , however I am more inclined to passe by the weaknesses of others , then by multiplying words ( as were easie upon such an advantage ) to occasion more strife . Thou tels me that . thou and some of thy friends , do intend to give me a visit to morrow , about the first , or seccond hour in my Chamber to treat about the fift Querie : I am willing to meet thee and any of thy friends , to treat ( in a spirit of love and meekness ) about the said point ; and after that about any other wherein we differ , but thou art mistaken , if thou thinkest that I shall leave it to thee to appoint time , and place at thy pleasure , and therefore thou wast over confident ( to say no more of it ) to nominate my Chamber , the day , and hour , except I had invited thee , or agreed thereto ; know therefore that I take no notice of , nor shall I observe any meeting , till upon discourse with thee , or some of thy friends , we have mutually agreed about a place , and such a day as my friends can come upon , to morrow they cannot , when this is done , bring whom thou wilt , for truth ( which we all pretend to seek after ) neither fears multitudes , nor great words , as for thy setting ●hy Paper upon the door , thou hadst done some right , if thou hadst set my Letter by it , but thy practice doth favour ( in several circumstances ) of a fleshly spirit ( as I can shew at better leisure ) and will reflect more upon thy self , and friends , then where thou didst intend it ; and if I be disposed that way , it will not be difficult to answer thee in thy own kind ; but God hath called us to peace , and I am taught to study to live peaceably with all men , and further then I am provoked to appear in the defence of truth , shall endeavour to leave off contention before it be medled with , Prov. 17. 14. Nor do I intend hereafter to spend much time in answering thy jangling Letters . From thy friend John Wigan . 1. M 6 d. 1663-64 . The next day being the seventh day of the Month in the afternoon , Thomas Curwen and William Wilson came to my Chamber , and urged me to nominate a time and place for the intended meeting ; and withall ; did break forth into many heavy censures against me , in such a magisterial way ( as John Coward then present can witness ) that I was forced twice , or thrice to intreat them to leave my Chamber , telling them that I would appoint no meeting with them , but with some others of their company , whom I jugded to be more sober men , at last they left me , saying , if I did not appoint a time , they would take it for granted that I durst not meet . Being thus provoked to a meeting , in the evening of the same d●y I writ the following paper , and sent for Richard Cubhan , and Richard Johnson to agree with them upon a day , and place , and upon the matter , therein contanied . Thomas Curwen , I am willing to meet ( thee , and thy friends in the Hall neer thy Chambe● ( if the Lord permit ) upon the next fift day , about the third hour ( vulgo nine of the clock ) and there shall endeavour ( by the Lords assistance ) to maintain , That the light that is in every man that comes into the world , is not a saving light , or , that Christ doth not enlighten every man that comet into the world with a saving light . 1. Provided , that whatever is asserted by any man , be proved by the Scriptures ; and that nothing be determined but according to the Scriptures . 2. That the meeting may be peaceable and quiet without rayling , or reproachful speeches , and that the whole debate may be carried on in a spirit of love and meeknese . 3. That the meeting may be orderly , aod without confusion , that is that one may have as much time allowed him to speak in , as another , and that but one speak at once , and that none disturb him that is speaking . 4. That the meeting continue three hours and no longer , or at most not to exceed four hours , because of the occasion o● friends afterwards . If these be consented unto , let him that is appointed to treat with me , subscribe his name to a true Copy of this , and send it to Thy Friend , Jo. Wigan . 1 M. 7 d. 1663-64 . The above-written I sent by Richard Cubhan and Richard Johnson , to be considered by them , and the rest of their Friends : They not agreeing to every thing therein , the next morning sent up a Paper , a Copy whereof followeth . John VVigan , I and my friends are willing to meet ▪ thee and thine in the Hall near our Chamber ( if the Lord permit ) upon the next fift day , about the ninth hour in the fore part of the day , and there shall be ready to give thee a meeting according to thy own appointment , and to hear thy assertion , as thou hast said thou wilt maintain either against me or any of my Friends , that is to say , That Christ doth not lighten every man that comes into the world with a saving light : 1. Provided , That what ever is asserted by any man , be proved by the Scriptures , and that nothing be determined but according to the Scriptures . 2 That the meeting may be peaceable and quiet ; and that the whole debate may be carried in the Spirit of love and meekness . 3 That the meeting may be orderly , and without con●usion , ( that is ) that every one may have convenient time to speak ; for we cannot limit any . 4. That the Meeting be not limited to an hour , but as either side hath freedom to pass away . From thy Friend , Thomas Curwen . 1 M. 8 d. 1663-64 . Though this Paper differ from that which I sent to them , in several considerable points , yet lest they should have any occasion to say ( as I heard some gave out ) That I durst not meet them , I assented to their paper , and the same day sent another writing , A Copy whereof followeth . Thomas Curwen , I am willing to meet thee and thy Friends in the Hall near thy Chamber ( if the Lord permit ) upon the next fift day , about the third hour , ( or as thou writest , about the ninth hour in the fore-part of the day ) and there shall give you a meeting , being earnestly urged by thee and thy Friends yesterday in my Chamber to appoint time and place , and there shall endeavour ( in the strength of the Lord ) to maintain this assertion , viz. Christ doth not lighten every man that comes into the world with a saving light , against any that hold the contrary . 1. Provided that what ever is asserted by any man , be proved by the Scriptures , and that nothing be determined but according to the Scriptures . 2. That the meeting may be peaceable and quiet , that the whole debate may be carried on in a Spirit of love and meekness . And whereas I had in my former paper , put in these words , Without railing or reproachful speeches , I am content they be left out , hoping the thing will be observed . 3. That the meeting may be orderly and without confusion , that is , that every one may have convenient time to speak , and that none be limited : And I added in my former paper , That but one speak at once , and that none disturb him that is speaking , which I desire may be obseeved . 4 , That the meeting be not lim●ed to an hour , but as either side hath freedom to pass away . From thy Friend , Jo. VVigan . 1 M. 8 d. 1663-64 . The day appointed being come ; and the Judges coming into the Town the same day , the Gaoler prevented our meeting . Whereupon another day was agreed upon , and the writing following subscribed . The meeting above-mentioned being disappointed by the Gaoler● , we are agreed on both parties , that it be the first morning after the Judges go from this Town , about the time above said . Jo. Wigan , Thomas Curwen : Upon the seventeenth day , ( the Judges being gone the day before ) we met in the place appointed , where I briefly declared the occasion and end of the meeting , also the four pa●ticulars agreed upon for the manner of the debate , and then propounded the assertion , which I was to maintain , viz. Christ doth not lighten every man that comes into the world with a saving Light ; and desired to know who held the contrary , viz. That Christ doth lighten every man that comes into the world with a saving light , for against such had I undertaken to maintain my assertion . John Stubs answered , I hold the contrary , viz : That Christ doth ligthen every man that comes into the world with a saving light : Before I could enter upon the proof of my assertion . Richard Cubhan stands up , and would have altered the state of the question , requiring me to prove that which I had writ in my first Letter to Thomas Curwe● , namely , That the Light wherewith every man is lighted that comes into the world , is not a saving Light. This I told him I owned , and should be ready to make good when we had debated the other , which we were agreed upon , as appeared by their own paper . With much ado he was perswaded , and I proceeded to proof , premising first , that the question was not , Whether there be some light in every man that comes into the world ; nor , Whether Christ doth lighten true believers with a saving light , forasmuch as I denied not , but did affirm , That there was some light in every man that comes into the World , and that true believers are lighted with a saving light ; but that which I had undertaken to prove by the Scriptures , was , That Christ doth not lighten every man that comes into the world with a saving light . My first argument was laid down thus . Christ lightneth no man with a saving light , but by his Spirit . But Christ doth not give his Spirit to every man that comes into the world : Therefore he doth not lighten every man that comes into the world with a saving light . The first proposition is clear from the great ; promise of the New Covenant . Isa . 59. 21. As for me , this is my Covenant with them , saith the Lord , my spirit that is upon thee , and my words which I have put in thy mouth , shall not depart out of thy mouth , nor out of the mouth of thy Seed , nor out of the mouth of thy Seeds seed saith the Lord , from henceforth & for ever . And from the promise of Christ , John 14. 16 , 17. And I will pray the Father , & he shall give you another Comforter , that he may abide with you for ever , even the Spirit of truth , &c. And from the end of his giving the Spirit , namely , to be a Spirit of Wisdom and Revelation unto them , for the acknowledgement of Christ , & to enlighten the eyes of their understanding , that they might know what is the hope of his calling , and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the Saints , Eph. 1. 17 , 18. and to lead them into all truth , John 16. 18. Howbeit , when the Spirit of truth is come , he will guide you into all truth . Neither is there any other way by which Christ doth infuse a saving Light into any man , but by his Spirit , 1 Cor. 2. 10 , 11 , 12. But God hath revealed them unto us by his spirit , for his spirit searcheth all things , yea the deep things of God , even so the things of God knoweth no man but the spirit of God. Now we have received , not the spirit of the world , but the spirit which is of God , that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. It is onely by the unction of the Spirit received from Christ , and no other way that men come to see and know these things , 1 John 2. 20. But ye have an un●tion from the holy ●nd , and ye know all things . The assumption is proved from Jud. 19. Some are natural , not having the spirit ; and from John 14. 17. Even the spirit of truth whom the world cannot receive , because it seeth him not , neither knoweth him ; but ye know him , for he dwelleth with you , and shall be in you . And from Rom. 8. 9. But ye are not in the flesh , but in the spirit , if so be that the spirit of God dwell in you . Now if any man have not the spirit of Christ , he is none of his . From all which Scriptures it is evident , that some have not the Spirit of Christ . Many other testimonies I had to produce for the further clearing of this proposition , Viz. That Christ doth not give his Spirit to every man that comes into the world . But here John Stubbs began to answer , not denying either Proposition , but as disliking the proof of the Assumption , he spake to that Scripture , Jude 19. and said , Those that had not the Spirit were such as had gone in the way of Cain , who had not obeyed , but resisted the Spirit ; and so lost it . Where by the way it may be observed . That when a Scripture pincheth them , they will not stick to give a meaning of it , and such a one as may best suit their purpose . But , I replied , That it could not be that those ever had the Spirit of Christ , because they were 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , sensual or natural , for the same word is so rendered , 1 Cor. 2. 14. who never had the Spirit , but are opposed to the spiritual or regenerate man , ver . 15. And therefore it is said , The natural man receiveth not the things of the spirit of God , for they are foolishness unto him , neither can he know them , because they are spiritually discerned ; but the spiritual man discerneth all things . Now the reason why one discerneth , and the other cannot , is because one , viz. the spiritual man hath received the spirit ; the other , viz. the nat●ral man hath not the spirit , as appears 1 Cor. 2. 10 , 11 , 12. To this purpose , as far as I can remember , was my Reply . And now , ( notwithstanding our agreement that the debate might be orderly , and without confusion , and my desire that but one might speak at once ) great disorder began ; for whereas I expected to have reasoned with one , or at least but one at once , divers took liberty to speak one after another , and sometimes many at once , running from the matter in hand , to other points , and many asking new questions , that it was hard for me to get convenient time to speak . Besides , they were so obstreporous , especially George Fox and Margret Fell ( as many can testifie ) that they seemed to some ( when not able to elude the plain Scriptures brought for the proof of the Assertion ) yet resolved to word it for victory . George Fox coming in about the time I was replying to John Stubbs , gets up to a seat with one foot , and to the table with the other , whereas I and others were standing on the ground about the Table , he did not at all take off the strength of those Scriptures alledged by me , but his endeavour was to prove , That every man that comes into the world hath the Spirit of Christ ; in the management whereof he used many under valuing and taunting expressions towards me , and several times went from the Table with these words , The least , or meanest Babe will answer thee ; as if the presence of their Leader , or rather Misleader , was not needful ; and which is yet worse , he did miserably wrest and abuse several Scriptures , which he would have forced to have spoken in his dialect , calling upon the people for attention , as if his work had been more to preach to them , than to answer my Arguments ; as many of the Scritures made use of by him , as I ca● recollect , I shall give an account of , as also of my answers . That which he would have made out , was , that every man that comes into the world , even wicked men have the spirit of Christ , one Screpture alledged by him , or some other was 1. Cor. 12. 7. The manifestation of the spirit is given to every man to profit withall . My answer was , that the persons there writen to by the Apostle , were members of the Church of God , which was at Cori●th , which were sanctified in Christ Jesus , called to be Saints Cap. 1. 2. And that if every one of these had some manifestation of the spirit , it will not follow , that every man that comes into the world hath either the manifestation of the spirit , or the spirit it self , and that the Apostle speaks not of every man that comes into the world , but only of every man that by one spirit was baptized in to one body , and had been made to drink into one spirit , is very evident from the whole scope of that Chapter , and especially from the 13. ver . For by one spirit we were all baptized into one body , whether we be Jewes or Gentiles , whether we be bond or free , and have been all made to drink into one spirit , and ver . 27 now ye are the body of Christ , and members in particular . The same word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is used in the same manner in the 11 Chap. 21. Every man taketh before other his own supper , that is not every man that comes into the world , but every man of you who come together into one place ver . 20. So that this scripture concludes nothing for their purpose . Another scripture brought to prove his assertion was Neh. 9. 20. where it is said that God gave his good spirit to instruct the Israelites . Ans . 1. Israel was Gods Church , his chosen peculiar people . Ex. 19. 5. and if he did give his good spirit to them , it will not thence follow , that he gave it to all other nations , even to every man that comes into the world , the scripture is expresse that he dealt not with any nation as with Jacob and Israel . Psal . 147. 19. 20. He sheweth his word unto Jacob , his statutes and his judgments to Israel . He hath not dealt so with any nation , and as for his judgments they have not known them , and therefore , he gave not his good spirit to any other nation , for if they had had the unction of his spirit , it would have shewed them his word , and made known his judgments unto them , 1 Joh. 2. 20. 2. Though it be said he gave them his good spirit , it will not follow that every particular , or individual Israelite had this good spirit , but only such as were Israelites indeed , Joh. 1. 47. such as were Jewes inwardly Rom. 2. 28. 29. and were born after the spirit , Gal. 4. 29. All are not Israel that are of Israel , Rom. 9. 6. and to such only that saying in Neh. 9. 20. must be referred , thus Moses had that good spirit , and God promiseth to take off the spirit which was upon him , and put upon the seventy elders , Numb . 11. 17. Thus Joshua was a man in whom was the spirit , Numb . 27. 18. and had another spirit then many others had , and was fitted thereby for the conduct of the congregation , Numb . 27. 16. and if this scripture Neh. 9. 20. will not prove that every particular Israelite had the spirit , much less will it prove that every man that comes into the world hath the spirit of Christ . A third scripture alledeged , Isa . 63. 10. and Acts 7 51. where it is said , the people rebelled , vexed , resisted the holy spirit , hence they would conclude that wicked men , have the spirit of Christ . Ans . though it be true that believers , who because they are sons , have the spirit of the Son sent forth into their hearts , Gal. 4. 6. may and oft do grieve the spirit , Eph. 4. 30. yet all that do vex and resist the spirit have it not ; for Christ saith plainly Joh. 14. 17. the world cannot receive him , therefore hath him not , yet the world do vex and resist the spirit of God , speaking in the Prophets , Apostles , or other servants of God , by slighting , and rejecting , their reproofes , exhortations or counsels , or by undervalluing and not regarding the wonderous works of God wrought by the power of his spirit ; thus when Stephen saith , Ye do resist the holy ghost , it was the spirit in him by which he spake , compared Acts. 6. 10. and they were not able to resist the wisdom and the spirit by which he spake . In like manner they had resisted the spirit in the Prophets , Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted , &c. ver . 52. thus when the mighty power of God was put forth in signs and miracles in Egipt , and the wilderness , Numb . 14. 11. 22. and they believed not his spirit , ( not in themselves ) but put forth in those mighty works , and speaking in Joshua , and other faithful witnesses for God in that day ; thus the spirit of God was vexed in Noah , and Lot , by the wickedness of the old world , and of Sodom , Gen. 6. 2 ▪ Pet. 2. 7. 8. and not in the wicked , who being strangers , and without God in the world , were not the habitation of God through the spirit , Ep. 2. 12. 22 ▪ A fourth scripture was urged Joh. 10. 7 , 8. but if I depart , I will send him , ( viz. the comforter ] unto you , and when he is come , he will reprove the world of sin &c. therefore say they , he must needs be in the world , and in every man that comes into the world . Ans . 1. By this promise which Christ makes to send the holy ghost after his departure , it is evident enough that this scripture can be no proof of their assertion , to wit , that every man that comes into the world hath the holy ghost ; for if every man had him when he came into the world , what need was there he should be sent to them , after Christs ascention , nay rather , this shews they had him not before he was sent , and so not till● after Christs departure , which destroyes their opinion . 2. But seccondly this promise is made particularly to the disciples of Christ , ( I will send him unto you ) and not to the world . 3. As for that saying , when he is come , he shall reprove the world of sin &c. admit it were granted ( as it is not ) that when he came , he was within every man reproving him , this would contribute nothing to the proof of their assertion , for then he would only be in every man after Christs ascention , not in every man that comes into the world since the fall , or since Christs manifestation in the flesh , which is the point they should prove . But further I say , That when the Holy Ghost ( according to the promise ) was poured out upon the disciples , he so mightily wrought in them , and by them , in bearing witness to the resurrection of Christ , Acts. 2. 32. and in doing many wonders and signs , ver . 43. that the world was hereby justly reproved , and yet the Holy Ghost was not poured out upon all flesh , ( that is as was urged upon all mankind ) or every individual man , but only upon such as were thereby enabled to repent and believe , Acts 2. 38. 39. Then Peter said unto them , repent , and be baptized every one of you , in the name of Jesus Christ , for the remission of sins , and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost , for the promise is unto you and your children , and to all that are a far off , even as many as the Lord our God shall call , And Jo. 38. 39. He that believeth on me , as the Scripture hath said , out of his Belly shall flow Rivers of living water . But this spake he of the Spirit , which they that believe on him should receive , for the Holy Ghost was not yet given , because that Jesus was not yet glorified ; so that it is apparent in several respects , that this Scripture proves not their assertion . Further it was said that Balaam was a wicked man , and yet he had the spirit of God , and saw the starr of Jacob , Numb . 24. therefore every man that comes into the world , hath the spirit of Christ . Ans . It is one thing to have the spirit of the Son , which is the great promise of the new Covenant . Isa . 50. 21. dwelling in a man , 2 Tim. 1. 14. and another thing to have the spirit of God come upon a man at some particular time , and for some particular work , thus it was with Balaam , and thus with Saul , and his messengers , 1 Sam 19. 20. 21. 23. but this proves not that every man that comes into the world , hath the sprit of Christ , for the Scripture doth not say , that these men had the spirit of God before it came upon them ; only these Scriptures do shew that God can , and sometimes doth by the power of his spirit , impress upon a wicked man , and make him to declare some future glorious things for his own praise , and his peoples comfort , as Dan. 4. 1. 2. 3. Joh. 11. 50. 51. may be seen , neither is it said in that place Numb . 24. 17. ( that Balaam saw the starr of Jacob , but I shall see him , but not now , I shall behold him , but not nigh ; but when every eye shall see him Rev. 1. 17. but it will not follow hence , that he had the faith of Job to see him his Redeemer Job 19. 25. 27. nor the spirit of the mediator , the man Christ Jesus , 1 Tim. 2 5. which only dwels in believers , 2 Tim. 1. 14. that good thing which was committed unto thee , keep by the Holy Ghost , which dwelleth in us ; no more then the Angel of the Lord that spake in the Asse with mans voyce , Numb 22. 28. 2 Pet. 2. 16. dwelt in the Asse , though that is utterly false which this people hath published in their Paper , viz. that he was a Baptist , which said that Balaam had no more spirit then his Horse . Some of them asked what was that which caused Judas to bring the money again ; and made him repent , implying ( as I apprehend them ) that it must needs be the spirit of Christ . Ans . There is a light and law in every man that convinces and reproves of sin , ( except of not believing in Christ ) Rom. 2. 14 15. for when the Gentiles which have not the Law , do by nature the things contained in the Law , these having not the Law , are a Law unto themselves , which shew the work of the Law written in their hearts , their concscience also bearing witness , and their thoughts the mean while accusing , or excusing one another ; and this made Judas bring the money again &c. But this light , or Law , in every man is not the spirit of Christ mentioned Joh. 16. 7. 8. which was promised to be sent to reprove , or convince the world of the sin of not believing in Christ &c. for he was not come while as Christ was not ascended , John 16. 7. 13. but of this light , and Law in every man , I shall speak more , after the rest of my Arguments to prove my assertions , are laid down . By these briefe Answers , it may appear with what little success these Scriptures were brought , to prove that every man , even the wicked and unregenerate , have the spirit of Christ , and that notwithstanding all that was said , the plain and positive Scriptures , brought brought by me , to prove the contrary , viz. That all men have not the Spirit of Christ , do remain firm ●and ●nshaken ▪ there being nothing more plain than Christ's own words , John 14. 17. That the world cannot receive the Spirit of Truth . And the Apostles , Rom. 8. 9. Jude 19. That some are in the flesh , are sensual , not having the Spirit of Christ . As I could get liberty , other Arguments were propounded for the proof of that which I had undertaken to make good , viz. That Christ doth not lighten every man that comes into the world with a saving Light , which are as follow ; though in that confused Assembly they could not be so orderly , and with that enlargement urged , as they are here set down . Whom Christ enlightens with a saving Light into their hearts , he causeth the Light of the glorious Gospel of Christ to shine , to give the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ , according to the testimony of Paul , 2 Cor. 4. 6. For God who commanded the light to shine out of darkness , hath shined in our hearts , to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ . He brings life and immortality to light through the Gospel , 2 Tim. 1. 10. And he doth no otherwayes manifest the Grace of God , our Reconciliation , Peace and Salvation , but by the light of the glorious Gospel shining in our hearts ; and he that wants this Gospel-light , hath no saving-light , but is lost , 2 Cor. 4. 3. But if our Gospel be hid , it is hid to them that are lost . But Christ doth not cause this light of the glorious Gospel to shine in the heart of every man that comes into the world , for the Gospel is hid to some , and the light of it doth not shine in their hearts , as the Scripture testifies , 2 Cor. 4. 3 , 4. But if our Gospel be hid , it is hid to them that are lost ; in whom the God of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not , lest the light of the glorious Gospel of Christ who is the Image of God , should shine unto them . Therefore Christ doth not enlighten every one : that comes into the world , with a saving light . Whom Christ enlighteneth with a saving light , to them is given an understanding to know the Father , 1 John 2. 13 — Ye have known the Father . And the Son , 1 John 5. 20. And we know the Son of God is come , and hath given us an understanding that we may know him that is true , And the Spirit ; John 14. 17. Even the spirit of Truth whom the world cannot receive , because it seeth him not , neither knoweth him ; but ye know him , &c. And the things that are freely given them of God , 1 Cor. 2. 10 , 12. But God hath revealed them uuto us by his spirit — Now we have received not the spirit of the world , but the spirit which is of God , that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. So Matth. 13. 11. He answered and said unto them , ( viz. his Disciples ) Because it is given unto you to know the myst●ries of the Kingdom of Heaven , but to them it is not given . That Light only is saving which discovers these things ; to which agrees that saying of Christ , John 17. 3. And this is life eternal , that they might know thee the only true God , and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent . But there are some who know not the Father nor the Son , John 16. 3. And these things will they do unto you , because they have not known the Father nor me , Matth. 11. 27. No man knoweth the Son but the Father , neither knoweth any man the Father save the Son , and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him . Nor the Spirit , John 14. 17. Even the Spirit of Truth whom the world cannot receive , because it seeth him not ; neither knoweth him , nor the things of the spirit , 1 Cor. 2. 14. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the spirit of God , for they are foolishness unto him , neither can he know them , because they are spiritually discerned . They have not the Spirit , as was proved before , therefore they cannot discern spiritual things ( 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ) spiritually . Yea further , they cannot discern nor know these things , because their understanding is darkned , Ephes . 4. 18. and as to these things , they are meer darkness , Ephes . 5. 8. Yea , the light that is in them , is darkness , according to the words of Christ , Matth. 6. 23. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness , how great is that darkness ? And Christ himself gives another reason why they cannot know these things , Matth. the 13. & the 11th , Because it is not given to them ; It is given to you to know the mysteries of the Kingdom of Heaven , but to them it is not given . And in Matth 11. 25. he tells us plainly it is because they are hid from them . And at that time Jesus answered and said , I thank thee O Father , Lord of Heaven and Earth , because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent , and hast revealed them unto babes . Therefore Christ doth not lighten every man that comes into the world with a saving light . To such as Christ enlightens with a saving Light , he also gives a spiritual life , such he quickens , regenerates , and makes new Creatures , such as the Light is , such is the Life in men , Joh. 1. 4. And the Life was the Light of men : If the Light be saving , that is , effectually and eventually saving , it quickens and regenerates , and makes a new Creature , according to that in 2 Cor. 3. 18. But we all with open face beholding as in a Glass the glory of the Lord , are changed into the same Image from glory to glory ; as by the Spirit of the Lord this saving Light and Life and given together , as John 8. 12. Thou spake Jesus again unto them , saying , I am the light of the world , he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness , but shall have the light of life : A man cannot have a saving Light to see the Kingdom of God , except he be born again , John 3. 3. Jesus answered and said unto him , Verily , verily I say unto thee , Except a m●n be born again , he cannot see the Kingdom of God. And hence it is that Christ is a live-making Spirit , 1 Cor. 15. 45. because who soever is enlightened with a saving Light , is also quickened , together with Christ , Eph. 21 , 5. You hath he quickened , &c , even when ye were dead in sins , hath he quickened us together with Christ . But Christ doth not quicken and regenerate every man that comes into the world , every one is not a new Creature , some are born of the flesh , John 3. 6. and are in the flesh . Rom. 8. 8. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God ; some are dead in sin , wherein they walk according to the course of this World , Eph. 2. 1 , 2. and have not life , 1 John 5. 12. — He that hath not the Son , hath not life ; yea , some do dye in their sins , John 8. 24. I said therefore unto you , that ye shall dye in your sins ; for if ye believe not that I am he , ye shall dye in your sins . Therefore Christ doth not lighten every man that comes into the world with a saving light . Whom Christ enlightens with a saving Light , to them he also gives Faith ; the words of Christ are plain , John 12. 46. I am come a Light into the world , that whosoever believeth on me , should not abide in darkness : Mark , where there is no Faith , there is an abiding in darkness , and so no saving Light ; Faith is the Organ of the soul , to receive and let in a saving Light : An unbelieving soul is a dark and ignorant soul ; hence it is that Christ who is ( 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ) the beginner of Faith , Heb. 12. 2 ▪ when he gives his Spirit to illuminate the understanding , and to fill the soul with his marvellous light , he doth also by the same Spirit give and work faith , ( for it is his gift , Eph. 2. 8. ) whereby the soul is capacitated to receive him as a glorious light to dwell in the heart . And thus Christ by his Spirit and Faith , and no other way , dwells in the heart , irradiating the whole soul with the bright beams of his glorious light , according to these Scriptures . John 14. 16 , 17. I will pray the Father , and he shall give you another Comforter , that he may abide with you for ever ; but ye know him , for he dwelleth with you , and shall be in you . Eph. 2. 22. In whom you also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit : Eph. 3. 17. That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith . But every man that comes into the world hath not Faith , 2 Thes . 3. 2. For all men have not Faith ; none believe but such as are ordained to eternal life , Acts 13. 48. And as many as were ordained to eternal life , believed . None can come to ( or believe on ) Christ , but such as the Father draws , John 6. 44. No man can come to me except the Father which sent me , draw him ; nor hath every man that comes into the world , Christ dwelling in him , some are without him , Eph. 2. 12. That at that time ( viz. when they were Gentiles in the flesh ) ye were without Christ in the world : Some have him not , 1 John 5. 12. He that hath not the Son , hath not life In a word , beleevers only have Christ dwelling in them , John 6. 56. He that eateth my flesh , and drinketh my blood , dwelleth in me , and I in him . Therefore Christ doth not enlighten every man that comes into the world with a saving Light. To these last Arguments I remember not any thing brought by way of answer to weaken any one proof , but that which was their last and chiefest Refuge , was that Text John 1. 9. That was the true Light which lighteth every man that comes into the world , as if the bare urging , or rather wresting of this one Scripture , were sufficient to overthrow all that I had said ; For , is not he the true Light , say they ? And is not he a saving Light ? And doth not he lighten every man that comes into the world ? As I was replying to this Scripture , divers of them took liberty to pass many heavy censures upon me , which ( before I speak to that Scripture ) I shall here set down , that the Spirit by which they are acted , may better be discerned . Margaret Fell said , Thou art a miserable Creature . James Brown with great fierceness , Thou art an Enemy of God. Thomas Davenport said , ( but very mildly ) Thou hast denyed Christ to day . Richard Cubhan said , Thou hast denyed the Lord that bought thee ; and would undertake to prove that I was one of those false Prophets mentioned 2 Peter 2. 1. And so the Meeting ended . Since which time I have also met with many harsh censures and reproaches : The Caoler told me Margaret Fell said I had spoken many blasphemies . George Fox said , Thou art not a rationable man ( that was his own word . ) John Baley a youth in the Town , said , The eternal Judgements of God will fall upon thee , and burn thee up as chaff ; thou art worse than a Drunkard . James Park in my own Chamber said with great vehemency , Thou art a lyar , and a Deceiver , and the Curse of God will be upon thee in thy Bed-Chamber , and Closet , and where-ever thou goest , and thou suffers as an evil doer : And afterwards sent me a Paper with his Name subscribed , wherein he hath these expressions ; — John Wigans , Thou full of subtilty , Thou enemy of the Light of Righteousness , Christ Jesus , wilt thou not cease to pervert the right way of God , the path of Life ? Thou art from the Doore , thou art a Thief and a Robber , thou art a blind Guide ; Thou Monster ; Thou strange Birth of the Flesh ; Thou conceive● Chaffe , Thou brings forth Iniquity , and drinks it up ; Thou foolish builder , and despiser of the Light , the true Light ; thou art in the darkness of thy clouded understanding , contemning the Son of God , and setting at nought the love of God to the world ; thou art a doing despite to the true Light , and the Spirit of Grace , accounting it an unholy thing ; Thou art a blind Leader of the blind in the ditch , keeping people in the fall , and in the ditch ; wo unto thee , thou suffers as an evil doer . Henry Wood in a Letter to Evan Price , calls me his Priest ; with much more of this kind of Language ( which I forbear to mention ) have I been followed from day to day . My answer to these great swelling words of vanity , is , That I am taught not to strive , but to be gentle to all men , 2 Tim. 2. 24 and that I have otherwise learned Christ , than to render railing for railing , 1 Pet. 3. 9. Yet may I not say to them ( as once Christ did to his Disciples ) Ye know not of what spirit ye are . Are these the fruits of the Spirit of Christ ? Let them shew if they can , where it is written , That he , or any acted by his Spirit , called men , even the worst of his Enemies , Monsters , or strange birth of the flesh ; or where he ever spake an untruth , or falsly accused any ; yet thus they deal with me ; for besides that they are not able to prove me a Thief , a Robber , a Deceiver — It is utterly false that I am any mans Priest , or that I suffer as an evil doer ; which thing nevertheless they positively assert ; but I am moved with compassion towards them , and shall not further insist upon these things , for I pass not for mans day , my judgement is with the Lord in this matter , and I am also perswaded the Lord will in due time rebuke every evil Spirit , whereby some simple-hearted ones may ( for a time ) be ensnared and led captive by him at his will ; onely here it may be necessary to enquire what in most prob●bility may be the occasion of these high and peremptory censures . Surely I know no other , ( nor do they declare any other ) cause then this , viz. That my Assertion and Arguments brought from Scriptures to prove it , do strike at the very Corner-Stone of their building , which being removed , the whole superstructure must unavoid●bly fall to the ground . That which they boldly affirm with highest confidence in their words , and Printed Books , and which is their foundation , is , that the light which is in every man that comes into the world , is Christ , the Redeemer and Saviour , the Lord that bought them , the Eternal , and just one , the tryed precious corner Stone , which God hath laid in Sion , the Spirit , yea the true infallible Spirit that was in the Prophets , and Apostles , the door , the way , the truth and the life , in a word , the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 spirituale , the All that is to be known and believed ; and this is their [ 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ] first lie ; now because I cannot call this the true Jesus ( as indeed it is not ) and worship an Idol , ( as they do ) therefore am I charged to be their Enemie , and Christs also , in the fore-mentioned censures , and in much more of the same kind . To the end therefore that the grand deceiver with his deceipts , yet hid under a disguise may be more easily detected , and that truth ( being cleared from mistakes ) may be better discerned , and that many simple hearts , who being yet ignorant of Satans devices , are captivated , and led away with the errors of the wicked into pernitious wayes , may be more effectually undeceived and reclaimed , I shall endeavour briefly and plainly to shew , 1. What the light in every man is . 2. Of what use it is , and the utmost it can do . 3. What it cannot do — That if God peradventure may please to give unto any Repentance , to the acknowledging of the truth , they may be recovered out of the snare of the Devil , &c. 2 Tim. 2. 25 , 26. For the better understanding of that which is to be spoken of the light in man , it is necessary that these things following be premised . 1. That God is light , 1. Jo. 1. 5. and dwels in the light which no man can approach unto , 1 Tim. 6. 16. and is the fountain and originall of all light . And hence 2. That all light is of God , all light is Gods light , that is , it is his off-spring , he is the Author and efficient cause of it , and thence is called the Father of lights , Jam. 1. 17. And yet 3. That all light is not God , for there are created lights ; light was the first distinct part of the whole creation , Gen 1. 13. He made two great lights to rule the day and the night ; he made the Stars also , Gen. 1. 16. which are called Stars of light , Psal . 14. 8 , 3. Now what God creates , forms or makes , that is not God. 4. As External , proper , sensible light is Gods creature , so also is internal light , intellectuall light , invisible light , both in Angels and men ; the Angels , those ministring spirits , those flames of fire , those star-like sparkles of light , are Angels of light , 2 Cor. 11. 14. yet they are but derivative lights , lighted up by the Father of lights , and spirits , Ja 1. 17. Heb , 12. 9. created by him , by whom all things were made , Col. 1. 16. For by him were all things created , that are in Heaven and that are in Earth , visible , and invisible , whether they be Thrones or Dominions , or Principallities , or Powers , &c. So the spirit of man is a light in man , an invisible light , called the candle of the Lord , Pro. 20. 27. formed in man by the Lord , Zach. 12. 1. of which more will be said afterwards . 5. As all derivative lights which God hath made , are subordinate to himself , so are the inferior one to another ; the light in man when he was at his best , was far inferior to the light of wisdome and knowledg in Angels , Psal . 8. 5. the light in Angels is far inferior to the light in the man Christ Jesus , as he is the anointed Saviour , and sustains the office of a Mediator ; he , as such , is the Sun-light , far above all other lights , lighted up by the Father of lights , in him are hid all the treasures of wisdome and knowledge , Col. 2. 3. These things being premised , I come to shew what the light in every man is . The light that is in man may be considered either , 1. With respect to the will and aff●ctions ; and so it is that inward peace , comfort , joy and gladness , which is opposed to the darkness of inward trouble , griefe and sorrow ; and thus I find the Scripture frequently speaking of light and darkness , metaphorically , as Psal . 97. 11. Light ( that is joy ) is sowne for the righteous , and gladness for the upright in heart . Isa . 50. 10. He that walks in darkness , and hath no light , is one that hath no peace , no comfor , no consolation ; when the Jewes were delivered from Hamans conspiracie , they had light , and gladness , joy , and honour , Esth . 8. 16. so Job 18. 5. the light of the wicked ( that is their joy and comfort ) shall be put out ; the Church saith , Micah 7. 8. When I sit in darkness , the Lord will be a light unto me , that is , of joy and comfort . Or secondly , the light in every man may be considered , ( and so it is spoken of in this question ) with respect to the intellectual powers , the mind and understanding ; and thus it is , the spirit of every man which is in him , the Father of lights and spirits , doth form a spirit in every man , Zach. 12. 1. Who formeth the spirit of man in him , or as it is Gen. 2. 7. The Lord breathed into man the breath of life , and man became a living soul , agreeable to that of the Apostle , 1 Cor. 15. 45. The first man Adam was made a living soul ; so that without this spirit , he could not be a man ; now this spirit in every man is the light in every man , according to the testimony of that Scripture , Prov. 20. 27. The spirit of a man is the candle of the Lord , that is , a candle which the Lord hath set up in him to see by , whereof he is the Author and efficient cause . Mark Reader , this spirit or light in every man , is not the Lord , but a candle lighted up by the Lord ; this inter●al light , in the little world man , is no more the Lord , then the external lights in the firmament are the Lord ; nay , it is so farr from being the Lord , the Sun light , that it is lesser , and inferior to the light in other creatures , namely the Angels , as was hinted before , their light of wisdome , reason , and understanding doth farr exceed mans , as the wise womans words to the King do import , 2 Sam. 14. 20. and my Lord is wise , according to the wisdom of an Angel of God , to know all things that are in the earth ; and so do those words , Rev. 4. 8. they are full of eyes within ; moreover as this light in every man , is inferior to other lights , so it is limited and ●●unded as to the use , and exercise of it , and cannot extend it self beyond its bounds , as will appear by that which followes . Again , this spirit of a man , or light in every man , is the reason , and the understanding of a man , which in the state of mans created integritie , was an ascendant light , shining with pure Beams of light , whereby he was ad●pted to know his God that made him , and the end why he made him , and how to answer that end , that is , to know him as God , and glorifie him as God , by yielding just , and perfect obedience unto him ; this was the end of Gods making man , that he should serve him , as David argues , Psal . 95. 6. Oh come let us worship , and how down , let us kneel before the Lord our maker , for he is our God &c. And Psal . 100. 3. Know ye the Lord he is God , it is he that made us , and not we our selves , and the end of Gods making us exprest ver . 2. Serve ye the Lord &c. Of this light we may understand Christ to speak , Math. 6. 23. If therefore the light that is in thee , be darkness , how great is that darkness ? that is , if thy intellectual eye be blind , how great is thy blindness . Together with this light set up in man , which shewed him his Creator , and that he was to be served , and how he was to be served , it was necessary that Law should be implanted , and written in his heart , ( which Law is called light , Prov. 6. 23. ) whereby the will and mind of his Creator , was imprest upon him , and made known unto him , so that by the Spirit , or light set up in him , he could reflect upon this Law , as a rule to every motion , and operation , and understand the reason , and reasonableness of it ; yet here by the way it is to be observed , that this Law is not God , God is the Law-giver , or the Law-writer , whether in the fleshly Tables of the heart , or in Tables of Stone , but the Law giver , or the Law writer , is not the Law , nor è Contra &c. The Law was written in the natural mans heart , to be a Rule , according to which he was to obey and worship his God , therefore it is not to be called God , and worshiped as God ; its true that the Law , ( as also the light ) as it is in God the fountain of Wisdom and Justice , is God ; but the Law exhibited , and in a manner ineffable , and beyond expression imprest upon , and formed in the heart of man , is not God , as the thing formed , is not the former of the thing . Now God saith of himself , Isa . 45. 7. I form the Light , &c. even as it is said of him , Zach. 12. 1. Who formeth the spirit of man within him . And Gen. 2. 7. And the Lord God formed man ; the Hebrew Root 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 formavit , is the same in all the three places , importing , that the things formed are not God that formed them ; the like may be gathered from other words , which signifie to create or make * ; the Law of God written in mans heart , is begotten of God , proceeds from him , is his off-spring , as all lights whatsoever are from him , and lead to him , and thence it is that he is called the Father of Lights , Jam. 117. but it is not the Father of Lights who is an infinite and incomprehensible Fountain of perfection and glory , but a borrowed ray or beam of Divine Glory , confined to its Orb , and limited to its uses ( as all other lights are ) beyond which it cannot go . And thus the Scripture seems frequently to distinguish between God and his Law , as Psal . 1. 2. But his delight is in the Law of the Lord. Psal . 37. 31. The Law of God is in his heart . And Psal . 40. 8. Thy Law is in my heart . 2 Chron. 12. 1. it 's said of Rehoboam , He forsook the Law of the Lord. In all which places there is a clear distinction between the Law or Rule given to man , and the Author of it ; from all which it is evident , that the Law written in mans heart , is not God. And thus have we an account of the fullest light that was in man before his fall . The sum whereof is this ; He had the light of a clear understanding to know his Creator , and his whole will contained in that Law which was written in his heart , and the Light of Reason to see how just and equitable it was to yeeld perfect obedience to his will ; and thus he could look his God in the face , and come into his presence with delight , and serve him with gladness . But all the Light that man had in his Created integrity , whether set up in his Spirit , or in the Law implanted in him , was not sufficient to manifest or make known unto him a Redeemer ; for as in that state he had no need of a Redeemer , so his Light had neither commission nor power to make one known to him ; even as it was with the Angels which never fell , they having no need of redemption , ( notwithstanding all their light ) had never known the Redeemer , but by means of the Church which stands in need of him , Eph. 3. 10. To the intent , that now unto the Principalities and Powers in heavenly places , might be known by the Church the manifold wisdom of God ; so 1 Pet. 1. 12. Which things the Angels desire to look into . And as their Light , so the Light which Adam had before his fall , was so limited and bounded , that it could not extend it self then ( nor now , if any had as great a measure as he had ) further then to shew how man being perfectly obedient to the whole will of his Creator , might live for ever in the happy fruition of him , as such . Since the fall of man , this Candle of the Lord in him ( that is , his Reason and Understanding ) is become exceeding dim in comparison of what it was before , as the Scripture testifies , Eph. 4. 18. Having the understanding darkened , being alienated from the Life of God through the ignorance that is in them , because of the blindness of their heart ; In the fall the Devil got into this Candle , the mind of man , whereof he hath ever since kept possession , and will keep it still , except a stronger than he cast him out ; he is the Spirit that works in the children of disobedience , and so blinds their minds , and darkens their eyes , that they cannot look up to God , or discern the things that concern his glory and their own happiness ; but their Candle doth mostly give light downward , to things below , Eph. 2. 2. Wherein in time past ye walked ac●ording to the course of this world , according to the Prince of the Power of the Air , the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience . 2 Cor. 4. 4. In whom the God of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not , lest the light of the glorious Gospel of Christ , who is the image of God , should shine unto them . Insomuch that it may be said of every man in the fall , how wise soever he may conceit himself to be , That he is a vain , empty man , born like a wild Asses Colt , Job 11. 12. and that he is in respect of man in his Innocency , but a beast ; in regard of his ignorance , man that was made like unto God , hath made himself by his fall , like unto a beast , according to that of Solomon , Eccles . 3. 18. I said in my heart concerning the estate of the sons of men , That God might manifest them , and that they might see that they ● themselves are beasts . Yet is not this Light wholly extinct , for then he could not exist , but would cease to be a man ; where there is no spirit of a man , there is no man. So likewise the Law written in mans heart , which at first was plainly to be read , is not so oblitterated , but that there is sufficient left to render God righteous in his proceedings against men , who do hold that measure of the knowledge of God ( which is left in them ) in unrighteousness , and to leave them inexcusable before him in the day of the revelation of the righteous Judgement of God , Rom. 2. 5 , 6. I say , there is so much of the Eternal Power and God-head manifested and made known to men by the things that are made , that such as like not to retain God in their knowledge , nor to glorifie him so far as they do know him , shall be left without excuse in the day when God shall render to every man according to his deeds , according to Rom. 1. 18 , 19 , 20 , 21. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness & unrighteousness of men , who hold the truth in unrighteousness , because that which may be known of God is manifest in them ( or to them ) for God hath shewed it unto them ; for the invisible things of him from the Creation of the world , are clearly seen , being understood by the things that are made , even his Eternal Power and Godhead so that they are without excuse : Because that when they knew God , they glorified him not as God , &c. In asmuch therefore as there is a Light remaining in every man since the fall , though far inferiour to that which was in man in his innocency , I shall endeavour in the next place further to declare these two things : 1. What this remaining Light can do , or what the utmost uses of it are . And 2. What it cannot do . There is a fourfold use of the Light that is in every man since the fall . 1. To make manifest : 2. To direct . 3. To convince . 4 : To feel after God. First , This Light ( as the Scripture testifies ) searcheth all the inward parts of the belly , Prov. 20. 27. The Spirit of a man is the Candle of the Lord , searching all the inward parts of the Bedy : That is , Whatsoever is most secret in our minds ; for as in the Belly natural conceptions are wrought and shaped ; so in the Mind Moral Conceptions of good or evil , are wrought and shaped . To this also agrees the saying of the Apostle , ( 1 Cor. 2. 11. ) What man knoweth the things of a man , save the spirit of a man whech is in him ? That is , No other man knows what his own thoughts are , or what they are working , but his own understanding . This Spirit of a man sees all the inward motions and outward actions of a man , with a direct act of the understanding , which is called Science ; and this simply considered , makes not any thing that is discovered , good or evil : And this is the first use of the Light that is in every man , viz. To make manifest the things of a man to himself . Secondly , This Light in every man is useful for direction in a double respect : 1. As it looks upon the Law written in his heart , it presents unto him the principles of Justice , Righteousness , Equity , Soberness , and other Moral Vertues , and shews him what is right to be done , according to that of the Apostle , Rom. 2. 14. For when the Gentiles ( that is , unconverted Gentiles ) which have not the Law , do by nature the things contained in the Law , these having not the Law ( that is , formally published and preached unto them ) are a Law unto themselves : Which shew the work of the Law written in their hearts , their Conciences also bearing witness , &c. 2. As it looks upon the works of the Creation , which are seen , such clear beams of the God-head may be understood by the things that are made , as might direct and induce man to glorifie God as God ; which the same Apostle , Rom. 1. 18 , 19. makes the ground of the Righteousnesse of God in that dreadful Revelation of his Wrath against all ungodlinesse and unrighteousnesse of men , ( who ever they be ) who hold the Truth in unrighteousnesse ; Because that which may be known of God , is manifest in them , ( or to them . ) But how or where hath God manifested this to them ? The Apostle answers in the next words , Verse 20. For the invisible things of him from the Creation of the world , are clearly seen , being understood by the things that are made , even his Eternal Power and God-head , so that they are without excuse . So that , though every man have not a Light in him that is able to save him , ( as will be further cleared hereafter ; ) yet he hath so much as will make him guilty , and leave him without excuse . Thirdly the light in every man is useful for conviction , for though ( as was said before ) when it looks upon the things of a man with a direct act , it makes nothing good , or evil , yet when it reflects upon the Law within , which shall be the Rule of every motion , and operation , and compares the Action done , with that Law , the goodness , or evilness of it is discovered , according as it bears conformitie , or non-conformitie thereunto ; and now Science , or a bare knowing of an Action done , is become Conscience ; for this reflex Act of the soul is called Conscience ; that is , a knowing , together with something else , as when the understanding considers what is done , in conjunction with a Law , according to which it ought to be done ; thus the Spirit of a man , which is the Candle of the Lord , doth manifest the deed done , and the Law discovers the quallitie of the Action , according to that of the Apostle , Rom. 3. 20. By the Law is the knowledg of sin ; were there not a Law , there would be no Transgression , and were not the Law looked upon , and the Action compared with it , there would be no such thing as Conscience ; but when deeds are laid before the Law , as a Glasse shews not only the face , but the spots that are in it , so it will give a true report of their regularitie , or irregularitie , of their goodness , or badness ; and suitable thereto will its Sentence be , and Answerable to the Sentence the Law pronounceth , will be the excusations or accusations of the person , according to Rom. 2. 15. Which shew the work of the Law written in their hearts , their Consciences also bearing witness , and their thoughts mean while excusing , or accusing one another . Hence I say it comes to passe , that when a man , a meer natural man , refuseth to follow this light of direction , in doing what is right , he is convinced in himself that he guiltie , his Conscience troubleth him , and judgeth him , and is a Witnesse for the Lord that he is righteous when he judgeth , according to that saying of the Apostle , Rom. 3. 19. Now we know that what things soever the Law saith , it saith to them who are under the Law ; that every mouth may be stopped , and all the world may become guiltie before God , or be subject to the judgment of God , not having a word to object , why Sentence should not be executed , because they have Transgressed . This light was that which manifested to Adam his Transgression , convinced him of his guilt , tormented him with fear , and made him hide himself from the presence of the Lord , Gen. 3. 10. I heard thy voice in the Garden , and was afraid , because I was naked , and I hid my self ; and as it was then , so it hath been ever since , and will be still , that if any man transgresse that Rule , and Law that is written in the heart of every natural man , there is a light set up in his conscience which will accuse him , be a witness against him , torment him , and condemn him , according to that testimonie before mentioned , Rom. 2. 15. and 1 Joh. 3. 20. this manifested to Judas his sin , and caused him to bring again the money , and confess he had sinned . And more then this is not needful by way of Answer to H. W. or any other person , demanding where that witness is that doth condemn , and what that was which caused Judas to bring again the money , and to confess that he had sinned , in that he had betrayed the innocent blood . Fourthly , there is yet a further use of this light , common to all men , it doth not only make manifest , direct and convince , but is able also to know much of God as a Creator , and Law giver , at least his eternal power and Godhead , by the works of the Creation which are seen ; Rom. 1. 19 , 20. and to feel , and seek after him , as such , Acts 17. 27 , 28. That they should seek the Lord if happily they might feel after him , and find him , though he be not farr from every one of us , for in him we live move , and have our being &c. Thus for the light in all men , or common to all men good and bad , believers and Infidels , may go & serve for the fore mentioned excellent uses , even since by trasgression man fell from his created integritie , the sum whereof is briefly this . Every man hath a light springing up with him in his natural birth , whereby he is enbabled to see himself quite thorow , and to know all his own inward motions , and outward actions , and to look upon things that are made without , and upon a Law of works within , written in his heart , and thereby we know something of his Creator , and of his own dutie , what is right to be done , ●●d not only so , but by reflecting upon that Law , he may see the regularitie , or inregularitie of his own actions , and according to their conformitie or non-conformitie thereto , may have peace , ( a legal peace ) or trouble in his conscience , and this it may do where Christ as the way , the truth , and the life , is not so much heard of , thus it was with Adam , the light , and Law within him first convinceth him of sin ; troubles , and torments him so , that he runs to hide himself from the presence of God , Gen. 3. 10. I was afraid , and hid my self , before the promise of grace was held forth in the seed of the woman , ver . 15. And thus having declared how much is to be acknowledged concerning the light within common to all men , whereby it evidently appears to be a great , an excellent , and in many respects a very necessarie light ; I proceed to speak of the second branch namely , What the remaining Light in every man cannot do . But first by the way it ought to be remembred , that the light whereof we speak , ( whether we respect the Candle-Light of mans spirit , or the Light of the Law written in his heart ) is a natural Light , that is a Light that is in the nature of all men ; for though it be true , that if this Light be considered abstractly , and apart , or with respect to its Author , and efficient cause , the Father of Lights and Spirits , it is Spiritual , in which sence not only the Law as the Apostle speaks , Rom. 7. 14. but all Light whatsoever may be called Spiritual ; yet when this Light is considered as united to its subject , and by the Law of Creation , according to the good pleasure of the Creator , put into the nature of man , for the enabling him as a man to perform that obedience which God requires of him , for his own glory , thus it is a natural Light , or a Light flowing from the principles of nature , without which ( as was said before ) there could not be a man ; so that as there is a natural man , ( 1 Cor. 2. 14. ) a natural mind , a natural understanding , a natural conscience , so is there a natural Light in man. This is evident from the Apostles words Rom. 2. 14. For when the Gentiles ( that is unconverted Gentiles ) which have not the Law , do by nature the things contained in the Law , these having not the Law , are a Law to themselves . Mark here , they do the things contained in the Law , but how ? the Apostle answers , ( 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ) by nature , that is , by the Light of nature , or by natural internal Light , there being no other inward guide , but Light ; so when the Apostle saith , 1 Cor. 11. 14. Doth not nature it self teach ? &c. It must be understood of inward Light , which is natural ; and it remains , that I shew what this Light cannot do . Notwithstanding this Light of nature , remaining in man since the fall , be an excellent Light , and very useful , as hath been said , yet in several respects it is ●o deficient , and useless , even in those things that concern his everlasting happiness , that unless the help of a greater Light be given in for his reliefe , he will perish everlastingly . For first , it is utterly unable to bring any man to life that doth most exactly obey , and follow it , its true the Law which is a Light in a natural mans heart , was ordained to life , that is , to be a Rule , which if man had obeyed , he should have had life as a just and equal reward of his obedience , according to that of the Apostle , Rom. 7. 10. The Commandment which was ordained to life , &c. and Rom. 4 4. Now to him that worketh , is the reward not reckoned of Grace , but of debt . And this was the tenor of the Law , Do , and live , as the Scripture testifies , Rom. 10. 5. For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the Law , that the man which doth those things , shall live by them : But when sin entred into the world by Adam , and death by sin , and so passed upon all men , for that all have sinned in him , according to Rom. 5. 12. Wherefore as by one man sin entred into the world , and death by sin , and so death passed upon all men , [ 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ] in whom all have sinned . Now I say , Adam is driven out of Paradice , and a flaming sword that turns every way , guards the way of the Tree of Life , that neither he , nor any of his posterity ( over whom the death reigned , though they had not sinned after the similitude of Adam● transgression , Rom. 5. 14. ) could enter into the Life by the Gate of doing or working , as the Apostle teacheth Rom. 3. 20 Therefore by the deeds of the Law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight ; for now all being under sin , Rom. 3. 9. and subject to the judgement of God , Rom. 3. 19. the Law can only make known the transgression to the sinner , Rom. 3. 20. for by the Law is the knowledge of sin , but cannot offer the least help , grace , mercy , compassion or life , it wounds him , and leaves him , but pours in neither oyle nor wine , that 's the work of Jesus Christ the good Samaritan , by whom comes grace and truth , John 1. 17. it knows nothing but pure Justice , can speak nothing but wrath and the curse to the offender , according to that Rom. 4. 15. Because the Law worketh wrath ; & Gal. 3. 10. Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the Book of the Law , to do them . Nay , though Adam after the first transgression had turned , or any of his posterity should turn to the Candle-light of their own spirit within them , and by the help thereof to the Light of the Law written in their hearts , and should most exactly obey it as their Rule , and never offend it more , which neverthelesels since the fall it is imposble for any man to do ; yet so weak is the Law , that it could not give them life , as the holy Spirit testifieth , Gal. 3 : 21. If there had been a Law given which could have given life , verily righteousness should have been by the Law. And Gal. 2. 21. If righteousness come by the Law , then is Christ dead in vain . I say , such is the weakness of the Law , that it cannot give life , not in respect of it self , ( for it is holy , just and good , Rom. 7. 12. and able to give life to the doers of it ) but in respect of its subjects , who through the weakness of the flesh , cannot fulfil it , Rom. 8. 3. For what the Law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh , God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh , and for sin , condemned sin in the flesh . Secondly , As the Light of which we speak , cannot give , nor lead to life , so it knows not , nor can make any discovery of the Redeemer , who only can give life ; it is not acquainted with the precious Gospel-Mysterie hid in God , it knows nothing of the good pleasure and purpose of Grace in God to restore faln man to life and communion with himself by Jesus Christ . For the clearing whereof , let it be observed , That the Scripture doth abundantly testifie , 1. That God purposed in himself from Eternity to restore man to life by Jesus Christ , and no other way ( who therefore is most rightly callled the repairer of the breach , the restore● of paths to dwell in , Isa . 58. 12. and the restorer of life , Ruth 4. 15. ) And 2. That Christ only can give a new life ; and 3. That he onely is the way to the Father , as may be seen in these few instances , Eph. 1. 4. According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world — 5. Having predéstinated us unto the Adoption of Children by Jesus Christ unto himself , according to the good pleasure of his will. Chap. 3. 11. According to the Eternal Purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord. That Christ only can give life , see 1 Cor. 15. 45. And so it is written , The first man Adam was made a living soul , the last Adam was made a quickening spirit . John 10. 20. I am come , that they might have life , and that they might have it more abundantly . Ver. 28. I give unto thee Eternal life . John 6. 57. He that eateth me , even he shall live by me . 1 Jo. 5. 12. He that hath the Son , hath life , &c. And he also is the new and living way to the Father , Heb. 10. 19 , 20. Having therefore Brethren , boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus , by a new and living way whic●h he hath consecrated for us , through the vail , that is to say , his flesh . None knows the Father but the Son , and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him , Matth. 11. 27. Nor can any come to the Father , but through this new and living way . There 's no other entrance into the Paradise of God , and to the Tree of Life , but onely by Jesus Christ , Rev. 2. 7. And therefore such Teachers as ( excluding the Mediator ) do affirm , That as Adam fell from God by departing from the Light within him , even so is he recovered and restored by returning and yeelding obedience to that Light within ; do lead people from Christ Jesus the true way , to the Law , that old deadly Gate , through which it is impossible for any of the sons of Adam to enter and live . They that would lead men unto God by a perfection of obedience in themselves , and not by saith in a crucified Christ , as the only way into the holiest , instead of bringing them into . Heaven , to life and peace with God , do shut up the Kingdom against them : No man by the endeavours of the highest perfection of Reason , or natural speculations of the Divinity , will ever find accesse to God upon a Mercy-seat , until he come to acknowledge the flesh or dead body of Christ to be the only way consecrated and prepared for him , Heb. 10. 29 , 30. 2. That the Light that is in every man knows not this mysterie of Christ , nor is able to make any discovery of it , as is evident from Eph. 3. 9. where the holy Spirit testifies , That it hath been hid in God from the beginning of the World : And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the Mysterie which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God , who created all things by Jesus Christ , to the intent that now unto Principalities and Powers in heavenly places , might be known by the Church the manifold wisdom of God. Mark here , it was hid from the beginning of the World ; so that neither all the Light in Adam in his innocency , nor in the holy Angels , knew it , how much less could the Candle-light of mans Spirit since the fall , by any force remaining in it , enter into this great secret ? Doth not Christ himself tell us plainly , That these things are hid from the wise ? Matth. 11. 25. I thank thee . O Father , Lord of Heaven and Earth , because thou hast hid these things from the wise and the prudent , and hast revealed them unto babes . And doth not Paul say when he preached the Gospel , That he spake the wisdom of God in a Mysterie , which none of the Princes of this World knew , 1 Cor. 2. 7 , 8. But we speak the Wisdom of God in a Mysterie , even the hidden Mystetie which God ordained before the world to our glory , which none of the Princes of this world knew ; for had they known it , they would not have crucified the Lord of Glory ? And doth not the same Paul , who was a learned man , brought up at the feet of Gamaliel , and instructed according to the perfect manner of the Law , Acts 22. 3. And as touching the righteousnesse thereof , blameless , Phil. 3. 6. plainly declare , That before his Conversion ( notwithstanding all his Light and Learning , and all his care to follow that Light to the utmost , for he had lived in all good Conscience before God until that day , Acts 23. 1. ) he was ignorant of these things , and utterly unable with all his natural and acquired parts , to come to the knowledge of them : Why else ( if it was not so ) did he so violently persecute the Saints , as appears at large in Acts 8. 3. & 9. 1. and 22. 5 , 9 , 19 , 20 — and 26. 10 , 11. And how else could he think with himself , That he ought to do many things contrary to the Name of Jesus of Nazareth , Acts 26. 9. And kick against the pricks , and persecute the Lord Jesus , ver . 14 , 15. But that the Light within ( which he was faithful to ) was unable to make known unto him the true Jesus , and that it was so , he himself doth yet further declare in those words , Who are thou Lord ? Acts 26. 15. and in 1 Tim. 1. 13● where he confesseth he had been a blasphemer , a persecutor , and injurious , yet had obtained mercy , because he did it ignorantly in unbelief . Thirdly , As the Light in every man knows not the Redeemer , who according to Gods Eternal Purpose , is the Author of Eternal Salvation to all them that obey him , Heb. 5. 9. So it is altogether unable to discover the way and means whereby the Redeemer , and with him life and happiness is to be received and enjoyed ; that is , it knows nothing of the Law of Faith mentioned by the Apostle , Rom. 3. 27. The tenor whereof is this , That whosoever believeth in Jesus Christ , shall not perish , but have everlasting life , according to John 3 15 , 16. For God so loved the world , that he gave his onely begotten Son , that whosoever believeth in him , should not perish , but have everlasting life . The knowledge of this Law sprung not up with mankind in nature , it was not written in the heart of natural man as a thing just and equal . Adam's Light onely shewed him what was just to be done , and when he had sinned , convinced him , and passed sentence upon him , and there left him in his misery , not affording any direction or help for his recovery , which made him fear , and hide himself , Gen. 3. 10. Then was the great fountain of free Grace opened , and by the occasion of the transgression and misery of man , this Law of Faith was added , and founded upon Christ in that Gracious Promise , Gen. 3. 15. The seed of the woman shall break the head of the Serpent ; this Law is not natural , but supernatural , not springing up together with man , as that of works , but added to shew the exceeding riches of the Grace of God in his kindness to poor sinners through Jesus Christ , Eph. 2. 7. which is as farr above the reach of a natural man to know , as the Heavens are above the Earth , yea as the thoughts of God are above the thoughts of man , Though vain man would be wise , yet he is born like a wild Asses Colt , Job 11. 12. It s above the reach of his reason , to conceive how Faith in a crucified Christ , should be the way to save a sinner ; and hence it is , that the preaching of a Christ crucified , for the obedience of Faith , is to the Greekes soolishness , 1 Cor. 1. 23. he is not able by all his Candle-light , to discover this misterie of the hidden wisdom of God , according to that divine Testimonie , 1 Cor. 2. 9 , 14. Eye hath not seen , nor Eare heard , neither have entred into the heart of man , the things which God hath prepared for them that love him ; but the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God , for they are foolishness unto him , neither can he know them , because they are Spiritually discerned ; the truth hereof will yet further appear , by considering that Querie , Acts 2. 37. Men and brethren , what shall we do ? and that of the Gaoler , Acts 16. 30. Sirs , what must I do to be saved ? which do clearly argue , that these men now prict in their hearts , and wounded in their consciences , had no sufficient Light , nor understanding , to direct themselves to a remedie , and therefore they ask , What shall we do . And as this Light cannot discover the Law of Faith , so it cannot convince any man , that his not believing in Christ is a sin ; this is the proper work of the Spirit , the Comforter , as the Scripture testifies , John 16. 7 , 8 , 9. Nevertheless I tell you the truth , it is expedient that I go away , for if I go not away , the Comforter will not come unto you , but if I depart I will send him unto you , and when he is come , he will reprove ( or convince ) the world of sin , and of righteousness , and of judgment ; of sin , because they believe not in me , &c. In as much then as it is clearly manifest , that the natural man with all his Light , is unable to reach these great misteries , this gives occasion to speak somewhat briefly of that light which can reveal and make them manifest , which will be found to be a Light , as far exceeding the Light of the natural man in glory , as the ministration of the Gospell exceeds the ministration of the Law in glory : 2 Cor. 3. 11. For if that which is done away be glorious , how much more that which remaineth is glorious ? as the things discovered , to wit , the glorious Gospell of Christ , the knowledg of the glory ( that is the goodness and mercy ) of God in the Face of Jesus Christ , 2 Cor. 4. 6. are more glorious , so is the Light discovering them , hence it is called the marvellous Light of God , 1. Pet. 2. 9. and it is no other then the Light of Christ Jesus as Mediator between God and man , 1 Tim. 2. 5. which doth irradiate the soul of man with the knowledg of these great misteries , agreeable to that of the Psalmist , Psal . 36. 9. In thy Light we shall see Light : He is given to be a Light of the Gentiles , Acts 13. 47. He only being in the Bosome of the Father , can reveal him , according as himself doth witness , Math. 11. 27. Neither knoweth any man the Father save the Son , and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him , Joh. 1. 18. No man hath seen God at any time , the only begotten Son which is in the Bosome of the Father , he hath declared Him. The invisible , and inaccessable God coming down in the man Christ Jesus , which is the great misterie of godliness , God manifest in the flesh , 1 Tim. 3. 16. makes all the glory of his goodness and mercy to appear in the Face of Jesus Christ : as he said to Moses , Exo. 33. 19. I will make all my goodness to pass before thee ; hence he is said to be the brightness of his glory , Heb. 113. now as Christ is the shining forth of the Fathers glory , so it is he only , that shines into the hearts of all that believe on him , the Light of the konwledge of the glory of God ; as in the first creation God made all things by the word , so in the new creation , or new creature all things wrought by the Word made flesh , who is the one Mediator between God and man , 1 Tim. 2. 5. and the great Agent by which Christ workes , is his Holy Spirit , that Spirit which the world never saw , nor can receive , Joh. 14. 17. By this Spirit sent forth he doth reveal the misterious things of the Gospel , even the hidden wisdom of God concerning Christ and the new creature , which was not written in the heart of man , nor could be known by the wisdom of this world , as it is evident in 1 Cor. 2. 9 , 10 , 11 , 12. Eye hath not seen , nor Ear heard , neither have entred into the heart of man , the things which God hath prepared for them that love him , but God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit , for the Spirit searcheth all things , yea the deep things of God , even so the things of God knoweth no man but the Spirit of God ; now we have received not the Spirit of the world , but the Spirit which is of god , that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God ; thus the same Apostle saith , that his knowledg in the misterie of Christ was revealed unto him by the Spirit , Eph. 3. 4 , 5. Christ doth no other way inlighten the eye of the understanding but by his Spirit : Eph. 1. 17. That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ , the Father of Glory , may give unto you the Spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledg of him , the eyes of your understanding being inlightned , &c. This is that Spirit that teacheth all things , John. 14. 26. that guides into all truth , Joh. 16. 13. And because none but new creatures can receive this new Light , according to Joh 3. 3. Except a man be born again , he cannot see the kingdom of God , therefore this Light is to all that have it , the Light of life , Joh. 8. 12. He that followeth me , shall not walk in darkness , but shall have the Light of life ; the same Spirit that inlightens , doth regenerate and renew , Tit. 3. 5. According to his mercy he saved us , by the washing of regeneration , and renewing of the Holy Ghost , and so not every man that comes into the world , but he that is born of the Spirit , Joh. 3. 5. and made a new creature , 2 Cor. 5. 17. ( according to that Gospel-promise , Ezek. 36. 26 A new heart will I give you , and a new spirit will I put within you ) is inlightned with the marvellous Light of Christ . By this Spirit also doth he write this new Law of Faith in their hearts , called the Law of the Spirit of Life which is in Christ Jesus , Rom. 8. 2. according to that of the Apostle , Heb. 8. 10. I will put my Laws in their minds , and write them in their hearts : where he speaks not of the Law of works , which is writ in the Natural mans heart , but of the Law of the new Covenant , which the Apostle is there treating of , and which God would put into their hearts , who were in Covenant with him , and whose sins and iniquities he will remember no more . Neither doth he onely give a new life , a new light , a renewed spirit , and write his Laws in their hearts by his Spirit ; but ( that he may cause them to walk in his ways , Ezek. 26. 27. and that they may have help in themselves , Job 6. 13. ) he gives the Spirit himself to dwell in their hearts , as the same Scripture ( Ezek. 26 27 ) testifies : And I will put my Spirit within you . So Gal. 4. 6. And because you are sons , God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts , crying , Abba , Father : and so they become one spirit with the Lord , 1 Cor. 6. 17. He that is joyned to the Lord is one spirit . And this is that witness that every believer hath in himself , 1 Joh. 5. 10. He that believeth on the Son of God , hath the witness in himself ; a witness that he is the childe of God , Rom 8. 16. The Spirit it self beareth witness with our spirits , that we are the children of God. And while he looks at , and believes on a Christ without him , as having done all in his own person for him , according to Rom. 4. 25. Who was delivered for our offences , and raised again for our justification . Rom. 8. 3. For what the law could not do , in that it was weak through the flesh , God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinfull flesh , and for sin condemned sin in the flesh . Heb. 9. 26. And now in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself . And Heb. 10. 12. But this man after he had once offered sacrifice for sins for ever , sate down on the right hand of God. He also knowes and hath a witness in himself , that Christ dwels in his heart , Eph. 3. 17. and lives in him , as Paul witnessed , Gal. 2. 20. Nevertheless I live , yet not I , but Christ liveth in me . And he is the habitation of God through the Spirit , Eph. 2. 27. In whom ye are builded for an habitation of God through the Spirit . 1 Joh. 3. 24. We know that he abideth in us by the Spirit which he hath given us . From that which hath bin said , it doth plainly appear , that the mistake of this people is very grosse , who call the light in every man Christ , and worship it as the Redeemer , and the Lord that bought them ; whereas indeed ( as hath been cleared ) this light in every man is but the spirit of a man , and the law written in his heart , from the terrour and condemnation whereof the Lord Jesus came to deliver . It also appears , that to worship this light as the Redeemer , is to worship an imaginarie and fictitious Christ , and indeed an Idol , and in effect to deny the person of the true Jesus , who is Emmanuel , God and man in union , who in his own person without us , not in ours , hath by one offering , once for ever , wrought eternal redemption for us , Heb. 9. 12. By his own blood , he entred in once into the holy place , having obtained eternall Redemption for us ; and is the alone object of Faith : yea , hence it will follow , that whosoever affirmeth ( as this people doe ) that the light in every man is Christ , is a deceiver , and an Antichrist , such as the Apostle speaks of , 2 Joh. 7. For many deceivers are entred into the World , who confess not that Jesus Christ is come into the flesh . This is a deceiver and an Antichrist , whom the Saints are forbidden to receive into their house , or to bid them God speed , Verse 10. Receive him not into your house , neither bid him God speed . But of these and other usefull Inferences , more fully after the answering of an Objection or two , wherein all their seeming strength lies , and whereon their greatest confidence is built . Against that which I have said , there is nothing more frequently urged then that one Scripture , Joh. 1. 9. That was the true light which lighteth every man that cometh into the world . This Scripture they account to be an invincible proof of their fundament all Assertion ; which in their words and writings is thus held forth : this light is Christ , God , the Lord God , and the Lamb , the object of faith ; and this true light which is Christ , lightens not some , but every man coming into the world ; And therefore it must needs be saving . And that this light can be meant of no other then of Christ , they further alledge Joh. 8. 12 , 35 , 36. where it is plainly exprest , that Christ is the light of the world . Because I observe that that subtil Adversary Satan doth get the greatest advantage against many weak and unstable souls , through their misunderstanding and wresting of these Scriptures , in the mean while being ignorant of his devices ; I shall indeavour , according to my measure , to declare the minde of Christ in them : that if it be the will of the Lord , such as are taken captive by him , may escape out of his Snares . When it is said , that that was the true light which lighteth every man that comes into the world ; two things must be considered . ( 1 ) Who this true light is . ( 2 ) How he lighteth every man that comes into the world . For the first , the Scriptures do witness , that this true light is the Word God , by whom the world was made : for as it is said , Joh. 1. 1. In the beginning was the Word , and the Word was with God ; So that which is spoken of in the 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 7 , 8 , 9 , 10. verses following , is to be referred to the Word God the Creator of all things , and not to the Word , as the Word is made flesh , as ver . 14. or as the Word is God manifest in the flesh , as , 1 Tim. 3. 16. or as the Word is in union with the humane nature , according to his name Emmanuel , Matth. 1. 23. Let the impartial and unprejudiced Reader consider what is said in every verse , and I doubt not but he will finde it according to the report given , as in the 2 verse , it is said , The same was in the beginning , that is , the same Word God , distinct from the humanity ; and so it is in the verse following . As in the 3. verse , All things were made by him ; that is , by the Word God , in the 4. verse . In him was life , and the life was the light of men : That is , God the Word , the Creator , who gives life and light to all men , according to that in Acts 17. 28 , 29. In him we live , move , and have our being ; and we are all his off-spring , in the 5. verse . And the light shineth in darkness , and the darkness comprehended it not : That is , The Word God , as it is explained in the 10. verse , He was in the world , and the world was made by him , and the world knew him not . Though the Word the Creator shined as light in the world , and was not far from every one of us , as the Apostle speaks , Acts 17. 27. and had set up a Candle in them , whereby the eternal power and Godhead might be known by the things that were made ; yet such was the darkness of men , that they did not comprehend and acknowledge him . In the 7. and 8. verses it 's said , John was sent to bear witness of that light , that is , of the Word God , to wit , that God the Word was come to manifest himself in the flesh ; he bare witness , that the light which was in the world , and by whom the world was made , and whom the world knew not , was now come to appear in the flesh . It 's true , that John also bare witness of Christ in both natures ; as when the Word was made flesh , verse 14. it 's said in the 15. verse , John bare witness of him : and afterward , when he saw Jesus coming unto him , he saith , Behold the Lamb of God , which taketh away the sins of the world , verse 29. Where he speaks of him as the Word made flesh , and Tabernacled amongst us : But in the verses before mentioned , he onely asserts , and proves his Divinity . In like manner are we to understand the 9 verse , That was the true light , that is , the Word God , the Creator and former of all things , Isa . 40. 28. was ( to wit , in the beginning , for thither the Verb in the Original in every verse , doth carry us ) the true light ; not a borrowed , or derived light , but the fountain and original of all light ; according to that Scripture , 1 Joh. 1. 5. God is light , and in him is no darkness at all . This I say is proper to the Creator , who is the fountain of Life and Light to all beings according to their capacities ; whereas Christ as Mediator , deriveth Light from the Father , as he doth Life and Subsistance , as he himself doth witness , Joh. 6. 57. I live by the Father , &c. And thus we see who this true light is , Viz. The Word God. And hence it may be that the word Christ is not once named in any of the first 9. verses of the first of John , but only the Word . 2. How doth he lighten every man that cometh into the World ? The Word God , or God the Word , as Creator of all things , doth lighten every man that cometh into the world , by setting up in every man a Spirit , by which he lives ; which is called the Candle of the Lord , Prov. 20. 27. and by writing a Law in his heart , of which Spirit and Law I have spoken before . This is a true and faithful account of the Light that Lightens every man. But doth not Christ say expresly , Joh. 8. 12. I am the light of the World ? and is not the Word , and the true light of whom John bare witness , Christ ? That the true Light that lighteth every man that cometh into the World , is the Word , as such , I have already proved . And further I say , according to Joh. 1. 14. That the Word was made flesh , and tabernacled amongst men , and they beheld his glory , the glory as of the onely begotten of the Father : and being imbodied in flesh , he is thenceforth , and so considered , called Christ the Lord , or the Lords Christ , Luke 2. 11 , 26. For unto us in born this day in the City of David a Saviour , which is Christ the Lord. And it was revealed unto him by the Holy Ghost , that he should not see death before he had seen the Lords Christ . And no otherwise doth he bear that name , but as he is the Word made flesh , to be seen , and beleeved on : it is not the Word alone , nor the flesh alone , but the Word and flesh in union , that is called Christ , Joh. 1. 41. We have found the Messias , which is being interpreted , the Christ ; And is a light to lighten the Gentiles , Luk. 2. 26 , 32. And it was revealed unto him by the holy Ghost , that he should not see death , before he had seen the Lords Christ : A light to lighten the Gentiles , and the glory of thy people Israel . Till then , there was no such thing as a Christ , or a light to the Gentiles , but only in a promise . The Word being thus made flesh , manifested and seen , 1. Joh. 1. 2. brought life and immortality to light through the Gospel , by his appearing , 2 Tim. 1. 9 , 10. Who hath saved us , and called us with an holy calling , not according to our works , but according to his own purpose and grace which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began , but is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ , who hath abolished death , and brought life and immortality to light through the Gospel . Now that purpose of grace and love , ( which was in the Fathers bosom before the world began , which was promised , Gen. 3. 15. The seed of the woman shall break the head of the serpent ; and from that time believed and expected by all the faithful ) appears by this manifestation of God in the flesh , Tit. 2. 11. For the grace of God that bringeth salvation to all men hath appeared . And 3. 4. But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared , &c. And thus is Christ said to come a light into the world , not to lighten every man that comes into the world , but onely those that believe on him , according to that testimony , Joh. 12. 46. I am come a light into the world , that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness . This also is that light mentioned Joh. 3. 19. And this is the condemnation , that light is come into the world , and men loved darkness rather then light . And Joh. 8. 12. I am the light of the world , &c. This Word made flesh is he that was promised to be a covenant to the people , and a light to the Gentiles , Isai . 42. 1 , 6 , 7. Behold my servant whom I uphold , mine elect in whom my soul delighteth ; I have put my Spirit upon him , he shall bring forth judgement to the Gentiles . I the Lord have called thee in righteousness , and will hold thine hand , and will keep thee , and give thee for a covenant of the people , for a light of the Gentiles , to open the blinde eyes , &c. Who brings into the world a life and light far exceeding that light and life that was set up in every man that comes into the world by the Word the Creator : which more excellent life and light brought in by the Son , none receive but such onely as receive the Son , Joh. 1. 12. and are born again , Joh. 3. 3. 1 Joh. 5. 12. He that hath the Son , hath life ; and he that hath not the Son , hath not life . He also that hath the Son hath light , Eph. 5. 14. But till a man be born again , he cannot see the kingdom of God , Joh. 3. 3. nor perceive the things of the Spirit , 1 Cor. 2. 14. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God , for they are foolishness unto him ; neither can he know them , because they are spiritually discerned : but is dead in trespasses and sins , Eph. 2. 1 , 5. and darkness , as to this new life , and Christ , Eph. 5. 8. The neglect of this distinction of the Word , and the Word made flesh , ( which is so plainly set down in the Scripture , as hath been shewed ) and of the properties belonging to either of them , is the ground of the great mistake of many , who not considering what is testified of the Word as Creator , do confound that light which is set up by him as such , in every man , with that light which he gives as he is the Word made flesh . And thence do call that light Christ , and so saving , which is but the spirit of a man , and the law written in his heart , springing up with his nature in the Creation ; and therefore can neither be Christ , nor saving , as hath been already proved . That there ought to be care thus to distinguish , it will be made further evident by considering these following particulars . 1. That Christ is the onely Mediator between God and man , as the Scripture testifies , 1 Tim. 2. 5. For there is one God , and one mediator between God and man , the man Christ Jesus . 2. That in Christ there are two whole , perfect and distinct natures , the Godhead and the Manhood , inseparably joyned together in one person ; which is an Article of faith to which the Scriptures give full testimony , as may be seen in these few instances : Luke 1. 35. And the angel answered and said unto her , The holy Ghost shall come upon thee , and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee : therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee , shall be called the Son of God. Col. 2. 9. For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily . Gal. 4 4. But when the fulness of time was come , God sent forth his Son made of a woman , made under the law . 1. Tim. 3 16. And without controversie great is the mystery of godliness , God manifest in the flesh , justified in the spirit , seen of angels , preached unto the Gentiles , believed on in the world , received up into glory . Rom. 1. 3 , 4. — Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord , who was made of the seed of David according to the flesh , and declared to be the Son of God with power , according to the spirit of holiness , by the resurrection from the dead . 3. That Christ is often mentioned where the two natures , inseparably joyned together in his person , are distinctly spoken of ; that is , the matter may respect , and be applicable to the properties of one nature , and not of the other : as when he saith , I and my Father are one , Joh. 10. 30. he speaks of his divine nature ; but when he saith in the same chapter , vers . 15. I lay down my life for the sheep , he hath respect to his humane nature . As he is God , he is equal with the Father ; as he is man , he layeth down his life for the sheep : and yet one and the same Christ , who is God and man , speaks in both places . This is also evident in Phil. 2. 6 , 7 , 8. In like manner when Christ saith , I am the root and off-spring of David , Rev. 22. 16. he speaks distinctly of both natures : he is the root of David , as he is God ; the off-spring of David , as he is man. So when it is said of the Son , Heb. 1. 2. That the world was made by him ; and in the next verse , that by himself he purged our sin : we must distinguish , and say , The world was made by him as God , and he purged away sin as Mediatour by the sacrifice of himself , Heb. 9. 26. & 10. 12. This man , after he had offered one sacrifice for sin for ever . Thus , rightly to distinguish the natures of Christ , is not to divide the Father from the Son , nor the Son from himself ; but to give to either nature that which properly , under a distinct consideration , belongs to it ; and to both in union , that which belongs to both . Without which , the works of the Creator and Mediator , which are manifestly distinct , would be confounded . As in the matter under debate , concerning the Word , and the Word made flesh ; the Word is God the Creator , the Word made flesh is the Mediator . The Creator sets up a light in every man ; the Mediator gives a greater light , but , to such onely as believe on him , Joh. 12. 46. Thus having answered their Objections , though I question not but a judicious Reader , who hath taken a survey of their Principles , and shall seriously consider what I have hitherto asserted and proved concerning the light in all men , will easily discern both the unsoundness and absurdity of their Opinions , and the peril and danger of the consequences necessarily flowing there from : Yet in thankfulness to Jesus Christ , and for their sakes ( whether Quakers or others ) who either through weakness of judgement , or want of due consideration , have not taken sufficient notice of the dangerous tendencie of their Tenents , especially of their Fundamental Opinion hitherto opposed ; I shall endeavour in a few Inferences from the premises , to shew how injurious it is to the true Jesus , who is Immanuel , the Word made flesh , God and man in union ; and how pernicious and destructive such a sandy foundation will prove to precious souls . And first , it is evident that this Opinion is guilty of denying the great mystery of godliness , which , as the Apostle affirms , 1 Tim. 3. ●6 . is God manifest in the flesh , justified in the spirit , seen of angels , preached unto the Gentiles , believed on in the world , received up into glory . In which words the Apostle tells us , that the true Christ ( for of him he speaks ) is God manifest in the flesh ; and that this God-man was justified in the spirit , and assumed into glory : and also saith , that this God-man was seen of angels , preached unto the Gentiles , and believed on in the world . But this people ( as the Spirit speaketh expresly some should do in the later times , 1 Tim. 4. 1. ) do revolt or depart from the faith of this great mystery ; affirming , that the light that is in every man is Christ , the Redeemer . And if so , where then is the person of Christ ? where is God manifest in the flesh ? This is denyed in their saying that the light without the flesh is the true Christ ; as also is the assumption of this God-man to the throne of glory . In like manner do they , who hold this opinion , deny the Lord that bought them , according to that prophesie of the later times , 2 Pet. 2. 1. For the Lord that bought them is no other then God manifest in the flesh , who purchased them with his own blood , Acts 20. 28. which is contradicted and denyed by this opinion , which saith that the light alone is the Redeemer . Secondly , this Opinion is guilty of setting up a gross and dangerous Idol ; which will appear to any man , who shall impartially consider , and compare this Opinion with the description of an Idol . An Idol is any thing ( besides the true God ) that mans imagination seigns to it self to be a God , and to which he ascribes a Deity , whether it be exhibited to the body or minde : Exod. 20. 3. Thou shalt have no other Gods besides me . 1 Joh. 5. 21. Keep your selves from idols . Now this people do set up , and call the light that is in every man , God , Christ , the Spirit ; which yet is not God , nor Christ , nor the Spirit , as hath been proved : Therefore they set up an Idol in stead of Christ . And inasmuch as it is light , and a light within , and hath a greater likeness to God then other representations of him have which are set up in stead of the true light ; by so much it is a greater and more dangerous Idol . The more like any thing is to God , the sooner is man induced to call it God himself : therefore Satan , who seeketh the possession of Gods throne , doth more effectually deceive , and draw men to worship him as God , when he appears as an angel of light , 2 Cor. 1. 14. Thirdly , admit this Idol , this grand lye , for the corner stone , and the whole superstructure will consist of lyes : for , as the Apostle observes , 1 Tim. 4. 1. when men have revolted from the faith of the great mystery of godliness , they presently attend to erroneous doctrines , to wit , the doctrines of Daemons ; either to doctrines taught by Daemons or devils , or to doctrines concerning devils , ( as Mede understands the place . ) Those are the very Rocks which this people ( concerning the faith having made shipwrack ) do further run their souls upon . For , having set up this Idol ( the light that is in every man that comes into the world ) as God , and as the Anointing , which is to be attended and obeyed as their Teacher ; they do not onely open a way for Satan being transformed as an angel of light to suggest unto them as many lyes and erroneous doctrines as he pleaseth , ( of which I shall name some afterwards ) but while they do worship that light as God , they do deifie and worship Angels . Fourthly , this Opinion doth necessarily lead all such as own it , and are true unto it , to walk according to the suggestions and motions of their own mindes , without any respect had to the Scripture as a rule : for , as they affirm that the light in all men is Christ , and is the same Anointing both in believers and unbelievers ; so they say , it is a perfect rule in every mans conscience , whereby he ought to be guided . Whence it will unavoidably follow , that whosoever shall give up himself to obey and be guided by this light as a perfect rule , will no longer hold himself obliged to walk after a certain Scriptural rule , but must follow the uncertain motions in his own minde , whether those motions lead to actions good or evil . And hence it hath come to pass , that some who have followed this guide , have been led to many heady , rash , unclean , unjust actions , altogether unwarrantable by the rule of the Scripture of truth . Of such as these the Apostle speaks , 2 Pet. 3. 3. where he foretels that in the last days there should come such as would scoff at the second personal coming of Christ ( as this people do ) walking after their own lusts ; that is , according to the Greek , walking after that which is in their own mindes . Fifthly : Open this as the first door of entrance , ( as they do ) and it leads into a Babel of confusion and errours . No sooner is a man entred in at this deadly gate , but he is in the Citie To●u , where first ( if his eyes be anointed with eye-salve by the true Jesus ) he may behold this Image of Jealousie ( i. e. the light that is in every man that comes into the world ) set up and worshipped in prayers and praises ; all the honour and attributes due to the true Redeemer alone , being ascribed to it : which is an idolatry so much worse then that of Jeroboam , or of the Papists , by how much it is more mysterious , and in shew more spiritual , and so less discernable ; whence it comes to pass that multitudes are ensnared by it , according to that , 2 Pet. 2. 2. Many shall follow their pernitious ways . The falling down to this Image , is that whereby every particular person is matriculated or registred into their Sotiety of Friends : for now , and not before , ( as they say ) he hath received the Truth ; and , notwithstanding many defects , is accepted as a friend . The next thing to be beheld , is a company of worshippers , in great confusion , praying and singing , or teaching and singing , all or many together with loud voices ; contrary to 1 Cor. 14. 33 , 40. For God is not the author of confusion , but of peace , as in all the Churches of the Saints . Let all things be done decently and in order . If he ask how this company is called , the answer will be , A Meeting , not A Church ; and the particular members , Friends , not Brethren and Sisters . For though the Apostles and primitive Saints constantly called the Assemblies gathered into the fellowship of the Gospel Churches , and the particular members thereof Brethren and Sisters ; yet this people , having set up another Jesus and Gospel then that which the Apostles preached , do also characterize themselves by new names . Though he cannot finde the name or office of Pastor , Teacher , Elder , Deacon , which Christ set in his Church , in this company , nor hear the Scriptures read , or alleadged for proof of any of their doctrines , nor scarce finde a Bible amongst them : yet he may hear not onely men , but women-teachers , contrary to 1 Cor. 14. 34. Let your women keep silence in the Churches : for it is not permitted unto them to speak , &c. 1 Tim. 2. 10 , 11. Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection . But I suffer not a woman to teach , nor to usurp authority over the man , but to be in silence . Teaching lyes in the name of the Lord , and causing their weak captivated disciples to erre by their lyes , as that woman Jezabel did , Rev. 2. 20. Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee , because thou sufferest that woman Jezabel , which calleth her self a prophetess , to teach , and to seduce my servants to commit fornication , and to eat things sacrificed to idols . As for instance in a few particulars : These Teachers affirm , 1. That the Scriptures are not the rule of faith , and conversation to walk by ; contrary to 2 Tim. 3. 16 , 17. All Scripture is given by inspiration of God , and is profitable for doctrine , for reproof , for correction , for instruction in righteousness : that the man of God may be perfect , thorowly furnished unto all good works . Hence it is that Water-baptism , the Supper of the Lord , and Censures , and other appointments of Christ , are rejected by them . 2. That the light in every man is Scripture within . 3. That the light in every man is the perfect law of liberty , a perfect rule in every mans conscience , where man is guided by it : And that it leads those that are obedient to it , to purity , holiness , and uprightness . Hence they say , what they do in obedience to this light , is done in obedience to the Lord , and therein they sin not . So that though they speak untruths , falsly accuse , persecute with the tongue , or otherwise do acts of injustice , &c. yet they will not be brought to acknowledge a fault , because therein they were obedient to their guide , and so to the Lord. 4. That the Light within every man is the object of Faith. 5. That it is a common sufficient Light ; that it is Salvation to all that obey it . 6. They teach free will. 7. They teach and set up an inherent legal righteousness , denying the imputed righteousness of Christ , which was wrought in the person of Christ , without us ; without which none can be saved . 8. That Christs fulfilling the Law in us , or the Spirit mortifying , and sanctifying , and so fulfilling the Law in us , is justification . 9. That there is that in the Spiritual man , which being turned into , and followed , can redeem , and make atonement , and that in him the atonement is made : which destroyes the atonement made by the blood of Christ . 10. They teach , that there is no coming of Christ but that within , and so deny the Assumption of Christ , God and man , to the throne of glory , and his second coming in his glorified person ; contrary to the Scriptures of truth . These and many more Arminian , Popish , and long since profligated Errors , are laid upon the forementioned sandy foundation by the hands of their chief builders ; as may be seen in the Books of James Naylor , George Fox , Hubberthorn Deusbury , Farmworth , Burrows , Howgill , Parnel , Mason , and others . But having done with their first , and main principle , I shall not enlarge upon their hay , wood , and stubble ; being assured , that the removing of their foundation will easily bring down their whole building . While I am considering and writing these things , I cannot but say , as in the presence of the Lord , I bear a hearty love to their persons , and am moved with bowels of compassion towards their precious and immortal soules ; and that my soule yearns after their recovery , and return to the true Jesus , who is the way , the truth , and the life ; and that it is only their abominable Errors that I loath , and have levelled this discourse against . And having thus born my testimony against that which appears in this people to be against the mystery of Christ crucified , I have no purpose for the future to trouble my self in making replies to any of Papers or Queries , for that I observe a designe of Satan , moving them to multiply questions , tending rather to strife then edification ; and am warned by the Apostle , to avoid such , 2 Tim. 2. 23. But foolish and unlearned questions avoid , knowing that they do gender strifes . Yet in as much as they have since our debate , set many Papers upno the doore , called often upon me to make good my assertion , and have given me a paper , wherein they challenge all the Sons of Adam to discourse with them of this their fundamental principle ; though I be nothing , & know well my insufficiency to such an undertaking , above many others : Yet I say , if satisfaction be not received from that which is here writ , I further declare my self willing , and ready ( as far as it becomes a prisoner ) again to debate this point in difference with Geo. Fox , or any of his friends , before the high Sheriff , or any other persons in the commission of peace , who can regulate our meeting , if they shall require him , and me , to come forth for that end ; not doubting but in the light and strength of Christ , to maintain by Scripture-evidence , what I have already asserted and proved ; And further to make it appear , That he , who shall affirm the light in every man to be Christ , is a deceiver , and an Antichrist . And here notwithstanding I have thus freely and faithfully declared my judgement against the deceit of this people , and more especially against that , which is the very Soul and life of all their principles ; I cannot let pass , without mentioning some commendable things in them , left through my silence I should seem to condemn that which I allow . Which that I may more orderly come unto , I shall briefly touch upon the means , or occasion of the great success , which their way hath had in the world ; which will administer just ground of Jealousie , that their pleading for those good things ( which ought to be owned by all ) hath rather proceeded from the Serpentine subtiltie acting principally in their leaders , to cloake and more insensibly to carry on a pernicious designe against Christ , then from a true zeal of a godly reformation , for the honour of Christ . The principle then here opposed , hath had its advantage for acceptance and growth , with great applause of multitudes , from some or all of these means following . 1. From the ignorance , pride , covetousness , idleness , formality , looseness , corrupt customs , Idolatrous superstitions , and cruelty of Parish-priests , and the generality of their hearers . 2. From the too great formality , legality , and manifold divisions of separated Congregations . 3. From the open Testimony this people have borne against the forementioned evils , together with a greater pretence of spirituality , unity , purity , holiness , righteousness , gravity , zeal , and perfection in them , then did appear in any of the former . Antichrist doth never oppose Christ more , then when he appears in a mystery most like him : when he comes in the name of Christ , and pretends to be all for Christ , reproving much that is evil , and pleading for many commendable things . Thus our Saviour tells us , many false Christs shall arise , Matth. 24. 24. In Sheeps cloathing , Matth. 7. 15. Insomuch that if it were possible , they should deceive the very Elect. This hath bin the advantage and method of this people ; they have cryed out against the priests and teachers , as hirelings , deceivers , covetous , scandalous , &c. Against their hearers , as an ignorant , superstitious , formal deceived people ; every charge having much of truth in it : And the persons thus charged being clothed with guilt , were never able to this day to look this people in the face , who in the mean while crying out , Lo here is Christ , not in the multitude , not in the publique assemblies , not in the common way of worship , but amongst us a separared people , gathered and called out of the world into a more spiritual way . Upon these fair shews , it is no wonder , that many poor harmless people ( either wanting able teachers , or being unacquainted with a Gospel-Church-way , or both ) should readily embrace every thing for truth which they speak , who had put to silence all their hireling-teachers , and carnal professors . This hath bin the very case of this nation , there being in many parts few ( except guilty persons ) to deal with them , who knew no no better way to get the flies off their gauld backs , then to crush them all at once , and with them the good and the evil together : which when many well-meaning people perceived , they magnified these sufferers , and received their doctrine as the orracles of God , and so easily fell into their net , to do Homage to their new God. In the mean while these ignorant , loose , and rash priests and people , who thus dealt with them , lost themselves , injured the truth , and gave this people ground to glory over them . Whereas the right course to be taken in this case , is to distinguish between good and evil ; and what is brought , either in doctrine or manners , that is good , let it be owned , embraced , and cherished ; and what is blamed as evil , ( if upon tryal it be found evil ) let it be put away : thus shall we be in a better capacity to see , and deal with their most secret delusions . In this method I am willing to joyne issue with the best of this people . Do they bear a witness against hyreling priests and teachers , against tythes , against superstitious , carnal , formal worship , against swearing , against corrupt worldly customs in any part of our conversation ? herein I joyn with them . Are they , at least in shew and pretence , for the power of godliness as well as form , for worshipping in spirit and truth , for justice , for righteousnes , sobriety , modesty , gravity , and whatsoever is excellent in life and conversation ? all these I allow , and am really for . Yea , what ever they can make appear to be evil , that would I cast off with as much indignation as they ; and what further good they can shew , that I have not learned , that would I gladly embrace . And thus ( through the riches of grace ) having cast out those beams which dim the eyes of many , I can better discern the motes that lie deepe in the bottom of their own eye , and being upon equal ground with them , can tell them that all these fair pretences , and high expressions , are found to be a covering too short to hide their nakedness and deceit ; as will plainly appear to the unprejudiced Reader in the foregoing discourse . And that while they call others deceivers , they themselves are more subtil deceivers ; while they call others merchants of Babylon , and charge them for selling Christs words , the Prophets and Apostles words formony , though as to many the charge may be true , yet they themselves are found in the same guilt ; none sell more Babylonish ware then they , nor do any put off their merchandise at greater rates then they , as might be instanced in several persons , whom I forbear to ' mention ; nor shall I further enlarge in particulars of this kinde , but shall commit the whole matter of this discourse to the serious consideration of all men , and the success of it in their hearts , to be ordered according to the good pleasure of the All-wise powerful God , whose blessing only can make it prosperous . If some may be warned to avoid , and others recovered out of the snare of the devil , and brought to the acknowledgment of the great mystery of Godliness , 1 Tim. 3. 16. from the Faith whereof they have departed , and God thereby may be glorifyed , the end is gained for which it was intended . ΚΑΚΟΛΟΓΟΣ ΑΠΟΚΑΛΥΠΤΟΣ . OR , An Appendix to a Relation of a Debate had in the Castle at Lancaster , Between the QUAKERS and J. W. Wherein the Evil language of the Quakers is discovered , and compared with the language of the FALSE PROPHETS . IT is foretold that those false prophets , deceivers and Antichrists that should come in the last days , should be boasters , proud , blasphemers , false accusers , incontinent , fierce , despisers of those that are good , heady , high-minded , 2 Tim. 3. unruly , vain talkers , T it 1. 10. presumptuous , self-willed , speaking great swelling words of vanity , 2 Pet. 2. 10 , 18. raging waves of the sea , foaming out their own shame , Jude 13. Whether these characters do not eminently appear in some of these people , by this which followeth ; and whether ( notwithstanding their boasting of perfection , and a sinless state ) they declare not themselves to be the servants of corruption : I leave to be considered by all that are sober , impartial , and wise ; yea , even by such of themselves as are not wholly void of the fear of God in their hearts . For my own part , though I can say that ( through the goodness of God ) I have had converse with Christians in several Forms , and in several Nations , above thirty years ; yet I never met with a spirit in any sort of Professors more like those unclean spirits which are said to come out of the mouth of the Dragon , the Beast , and the false Prophet , then this which hath manifested it self in the Magisterial expressions hereafter mentioned in this Paper . Had I been mistaken in my Assertion , and my Arguments brought to prove it ; or had I affirmed any thing in my Paper derogator from the Truth of Christ : it would have become them , or at least George Fox , if he was ( as Margaret Fell affirmeth ) called from the Shoo-makers Trade , of the Lord , to his work and service , as the Apostles were ) to have advised them as Paul did , ( 2 Tim. 2. 25. ) to have answered in meekness . But contrariwise , in stead of a meek Answer to my Scriptural Arguments , after my Paper had been many days in their hands , they send forth many infamous Libels , stuft with Invectives , most of them being put into the hands of the Gaoler and Prisoners before they came to mine ; wherein , besides the unsavoury language following , they do their utmost to render me odious , and obnoxious to the greatest danger , and that by dark and dubious insinuations ; as , That it 's known what I have been , and , Some things else they have which must not yet be manifested , &c. By this subtil means , the more to amuse the people , and beget in them an opinion of me as some hainous offender . Surely methinks they should not be so weak , as to imagine that these unchristian calumniations should pass with wiser men for a sufficient refutation of what I have writ . And if hereby they think to affright me , they are greatly mistaken : for I fear nothing that they or any others can do to hurt my unstained reputation amongst men . I shall therefore pass by many biting , false , scornful , jeering and frothy expressions in their published Papers , and onely mention some few of those censures , judgings , cursings , which like a floud they have sent out against me ; with their names who have published their Papers , or sent them open . Such as have sent Sealed Letters , their names are concealed . Thomas Gurwen in a Paper writes thus : John Wigans , what a rage and chafe art thou in ! and how theu swellest , and fretieth ! Oh the plagues of God will be thy portion , and be poured out upon thy head . Thou was so full of rage , and bitterness , and envie and malice in thy heart . Thou hast raked and scraped a deal of chaff , and rabling stuff which came out of the bottomless pit . In another Paper : A filthy dreamer , who vomits up thy own shame . Thy Book will be thy utter overthrow : for it 's no more to me tho●● chaff , and dirt under my feet . In another Paper : Thy ill-bred behaviour , thy ill-bred sawcie tongue , unnurtured and unbred : and besides thy sawcie language . Thy hypocrisie , and sawcie tongue , and unmanner liness , and ill breeding . Whether this was endited by Thomas Curwen Husbandman , or dictated by George Fox Shoo-maker , I know not : but when he hath shewed ( as he hath not ) in what particulars I have manifested ill-bred behaviour , sawcie , unnurtured , unmannerly language , I may possibly learn better , but never in this mans School . Let the Wise judge what manner are most likely to be learned from this master of Cacologie . Margaret Fell in one Letter : Thou manifests thy gainsaying spirit , Core-like , gainsaying and resisting of the truth , as Jannes and Jambres did ; that is to say , the light with the which every man is enlightned , is not the light of Christ , nor a saving light . Thou art without God in the world . Thou hast manifested thy self to be out of the first step that leads to Christianity , and art a minister of darkness . Thy foul sinful prayers are abominable . They fleshly performances are but grass and chaff . All thy rotten bypocritical performances . Thou hast committed sacriledge , and hast blasphemed against the holy Spirit of God ; which never will be forgiven thee in this world , nor in that which is to come . Thou art under it , and it remains upon thee for ever . That foul and unclean spirit that thou art of . Thou manifests thy dark sottish spirit . In a second Letter : Thou begins with a lye , and ends with the devil , and sets John Wigan next to him , as if thou wast his head-Vicegerent : but certainly thou art a great zealot for him . All such unclean spirits as thine is . Thy black defiled heart and conscience . Thou hast manifested thy self to be a childe of darkness . What hast thou to do to take the Name of God and Christ in thy mouth ? Thou enemy of God. Thou art a thief . Thou are not a believer of Christ . Thou art yet in thy sins . Thou art a man separated from God. Thou never knewest nothing of the worship of God. Thy envious poysonous heart . Thou art under the chain , and it is over thee . A fighter against God and his truth , and the reward thou wilt be sure to have . And never look that that which is cursed will be blest . Thou art accursed , and no other portion can thou have : and this is Scripture , and truth to thee . In a third Letter : Thou can do something in writing a Book of thy own dreams , and thy imaginations , and brain-studies , and telling of lyes which thou hatcheth out of darkness . Thou art a meer Sot and Ignoramus . Thy evil unclean heart . Thy malicious dark envious spirit . Thy weakness , inability , and ignorance in the things of God. I having told her that if she called the light that that is in every man that comes into the world Christ , she set up an Idol ; and if she worshipped that light as Christ the Redeemer , she was an idolate● : She answers thus : I never heard such words , but from an idolater , and a blasphemer against God and Christ . Thou art an enemy of God , thou art worse then the Jews . Thou art a fit man to joyn with the Turk to set up Mahomet . O thou infidel , O thou childe of darkness ! Speaking of Christ , she saith , I am a witness for him against all such Antichrists , and deceivers , and blasphemers as thou art . Thou art a minister of the night , and of darkness , in the Apostacie . Thou art a night-bird . The curse and the judgement that 's written therein , ( speaking of the Scripture ) Christ Jesus and the Apostle hath pronounced it upon thee . Thou art the man. Thou hast lost God and Christ . Because I asked this Question , viz. What Parish-priest in England had got more money with his tongue then George Fox since he was Journeyman-Shoomaker in Manchester ? she saith , Thou art a wicked , ungodly , impudent lyer . Thou lyer . A proud disdainful spirit . A heathenish spirit , which torments thee , and many more such night-owls as thou art . Thou wicked lyer . The devil the God of this world is thy God , and thou hast done what thou canst in opposing the Quakers to get him glory . Thou hast a great measure of the spirit of envie , malice , and cruelty , and bloud . Thus far are her expressions , whom Thomas Curwen affirms to be so vertuous a woman , that I am not worthy to take her name in my mouth . Another writes thus : Thy vain hypocritical prayers , and formal preachings , and Chains offerings . Thou art darker and darker , and will be to thy dying day , unless thou come to believe undoubtedly that Christ enlightens every man that comes into the world with a saving light . You have been , and are hypocrites . Thy blasphemies against the everlasting truth . Another writes thus : Thou opposes the truth , and manifests thy self to be an enemy of Christ the light ▪ an opposer of the Gospel which is the power of God , of which power thou art ignorant , and a stranger unto . Thou art gone into rebellion , and not onely ignorant of the true God , and Christ , but also art become an enemy and opposer of him by deceit and deceivableness . Thou hardens thy heart , and stiffens thy neck against the Lord , and heaps up wrath against the day of wrath . Another writes thus : Thou hardens thy self against the truth more and more . It hath been evidently manifested that thou art an enemy to God and his truth . Thou art in thy will worship and carnal ordinances , as Baptism , and bread and wine . Thou art vainly puft up with thy fleshly minde , and art in the steps of the false Prophets of old , and the false Apostles in the days of Christ . In a Paper from William Holden and others , it is written as followeth : Oh friend John Wigans , it seems old Henry Woods and Thomas Curwens Pills which they gave thee to work out that old leaven that hath lien of long within thee , but this hath wrought of the contrary part , and hath caused thee to vomit and spue out upon a piece of paper , and sent forth for the dogs to lick up : and they being eager , doth take so much ●f this they filthy spuing , that it causeth them to vomit as thou doth . A few days after this Appendix was given forth , another Paper was delivered to me from the said William Holden , which at his request is here inserted . Oh friend John Wigan , it seems old Henry Wood and Thomas Curwen Pills works with thee , that thou purges upward and downward , that thou hadst need of one to wipe thee ; for thou makes a pitiful stink : it seems thou hast a full stomack , and a full body , that through thy vomiting and purging thou besmears every one that comes nigh thee ; one may follow thee by the smell : and thou art more like a scolding woman then a man : thou art more like a foul Dragon , then to preach the Gospel : thy language is more like that thou had been bred in Bedlam , then amongst men : thou art more like a rustical Door-keeper , to tear off peoples coats off their backs , then to preach the Word : thou art more like a ranting Tavernfellow cocking up thy hat , then a civil man. And thy brother Price glorying in his own strength , throwing the Ball , following pleasures , sporting in the day-time like a ranting fellow : who art a busie-body in other mens matters . But this is like Wigans and Prices worship : thou art like unto the raging sea , foaming out thy own shame , casting up mire and dirt ; who art deceiving a company of silly simple people ; who cloathes them with thy old rotten rags , and feeds them with thy husks . One of the filthy dreamers and inchanters , deceiving the people with thy sorcery , like thy old brother Simon Magus ; yet have a feigned humility in will-worship , puffing up thy fleshly minde . And John , dost thou not see thy self to be in an ugly dress , and shape , and image that thou art in ? and wilt thou not give over preaching and vomiting to people , yea or long , and deceiving their souls , and poysoning them with thy Sorcery ? for thou stinks all the Country over : and now wilt thou not go to Steeple-house ? for you are all one in the ground : for thy Non-conformity will not cover thy hypocrisie and deceit . We see thou hast Ishmaels bow , and Cains club , and Esaus sword , and the clusters of Sodom , and the grapes of Gomorrha , and Babylons confusion , and the Egyptians tongue ; and by thy side carries Judas bag , and weareth the livery of Antichrist , and art shod with deceit : one of the fools whose heart is filled with laughter , as thou did make thy self manifest in the Dispute : and who is like a man with a scald head , and like a horse with a gauld back , going frenging up and down , snuffing up thy nose like the wilde Asses colt ; grinning like a Dog , teeth like a Lion , a paw like a Bear , and mouth like a Dragons beast , poysoning the peoples souls with thy Sorcery , which makes them to vomit , and spue , and drink up iniquity , and vomit it out , which the people licks up and vomits it out , that they make such a stink ! And thou hast shamed Christianity : thou art more like an Oyster-woman ; it is like thou knows Billings-gate : thou art better selling Oysters then doctrine , or preaching either . And we hear thou hast vomited up more , to adde to thy first vomit : for thou stands in need of purging ; for thou hast a very unclean vessel , which is full of the old man : for thou might shame with thy filthy spuing , if thou wert not very impudent . And thou may put this to thy Appendix . No more , but love to thee poor captivated creature of Satan . From thy friend , William Houlden . This Paper was delivered to me the 5 M. 15 d. 1664. The writings out of which these sayings are extracted , with some others of like import now in my keeping , will fill up three or neer four sheets close written , wherein ( besides what is here mentioned ) is contained not a word tending to discover the unsoundness of my assertion , or to enervate my Arguments ; but manifold untruths , and light vain and scurrilous expressions , altogether unbecoming Saints : which ( though I can shew if required ) being too tedious for the Reader , I have forborne to transcribe , being also assured , that the Lord will sweep away the refuge of lyes : nor had I presented this to view , but that they have first done it , and that I finde it said , that the folly of such shall be made manifest to all men , 2. Tim. 3. 9. If instead of answering an assertion proved by plain Scripture , it be not folly to call the assertion and proofs chaff , dirt , rabling stuff , out of the botomless pit , and filthy spewings , &c. And to curse the Author with the plagues of God , and to tell him he is accursed , an enemy of God , an infidel , a child of darkness , &c. I say , if this be not folly , let the wise judge ; I am sure the All-wise and righteous God , will in due time , judge between them and me in this matter ; and make it manifest , that these fruits never came from his good , pure , holy Spirit . Had it not bin a more easie and commendable work , in one sheet plainly to have discovered and refuted my errors ( if any such be in my writings ) then to have filled three or four sheets with such stuff as this ? Surely a right Spirit would have led them that way . But whosoever will engage against the Spirit of Antichrist , especially to raise him out of his chief hold , can expect no better measure , while he is owned , and submitted to in his deceits : his carriage is like a Lamb ; but cross him , and he is in a rage , and speaks like a Drag●● ▪ Rev. 13. 11. While the false prophet hath hope to allure any , and make merchandise of them , his speech is fair , and his feigned words are smoother then oyl . 2 Pet. 2. 3. Prov. 5. 3. Like the adulterous woman , Pro. 7. 21. But if he prevail not , but be opposed and rejected , then is he loud , clamorous , and stubborn , Prov. 7. 11. and 9. 13. like Josephs . Mistress , when she could not prevail , cries out , and by false accusations causeth him to be cast into prison , Gen. 39. And yet further , besides all this , and before my book is answered , there are four of these people who severally write themselves Blacksmith , Husbandman , Laborer , and Taylor , who send forth into the town a new challenge to debate seventeen or eighteen points with me . But why is not the Shoo-maker joyn'd with them ? What feeble shifts are these ? My assertion strikes at their very foundations . And before they make that good , they would run into other matters . But though they seem to be weary of their cause , I must hold them to it , till their Corner-stone , and mine be so thorowly tryed , that it may evidently appear whether of them is the true Rock Christ Jesus . And whereas I said in my paper , that I was willing and ready again to debate the point in controversie with Geo. Fox , or any of his friends before the high Sheriff , or any in the commission of peace , if they should require us to come forth for that end ; Let not George think to shuffle himself out , and put the task upon others : for he must know , that in as much as it is affirmed , that he was called of the Lord from his trade as the Apostles were , my desire is in this matter chiefly to deal with him , and such others , that say they were Apostles , that their doctrine and deeds , being brought to light , it may be clearly known whether they be true Apostles indeed , or false , who preach another Jesus and Gospel then Paul did , as I have great cause to suspect them , and doubt not to prove them to be , if they adhere to the principles which are laid down by them in their printed books , and asserted and maintained in our late debate . And lest it should be thought that these Mechanicks are mentioned with contempt , as if none such were , or could be usefull labourers in the Lords vineyard ; I do here seriously profess , that any truth declared by such a one ( being sent ) is as precious to me as coming from any other man ; And there are at this day persons well known to me , of several occupations , under a special anointing , who being sent , are successfull labourers in the work of the Gospel , and whom I highly esteem for their works sake . But as the Lord approveth not , so neither can I own preachers who are not sent , Jer. 23. 32. Rom. 10. 15. but do creep privily into the work , and run unsent . Jude 4. Jer. 14. 14. Nor can I bid them God speed , who bring not the doctrine of Christ , nor preach the same Jesus and Gospel that Paul did , but speak perverse things , Acts ●o . 30. bringing in damnable heresies , even denying the Lord that bought them , 2 Pet. 2. 1. For though such as these may say ( and others may think ) that they are Apostles when they are not , and for the greater confirmation of their erroneous Doctrines may boast of gifts , as some have said to me that George Fox had the gifts of Tongues , and to others it hath bin said he could speak above thirty Languages . And by this and such like plausible pretences , they may insinuate themselves into many , and gain a multitude of followers , which is one certain character of Antichrists last coming , that many shall follow his pernitious wayes . Matth. 24. 5. 2. Pet. 2. 2. Yet when they are trye● , they will be found lyars , Rev. 2. 2. In the Interim I have one request to leave with the sober Reader , Viz. That he will seriously , and impartially resolve in himself these following Queries . 1. Whereas it can be found in all the Scriptures , that any of the true Prophets , or Christ , or his Apostles , ever used such language as is before mentioned , to any person professing Repentance towards God , and Faith towards our Lord Jesus Christ ; or whether it be not clearly the fruit of an Antichristian spirit , as hath bin hinted . 2. Whether there can be any other aym in the aforesaid censures , then to cast an odium upon , and to cause a disesteem of the person opposing them . And whether this was not the practice of the false Prophets , and false . Apostles of old , thereby to gain more credit to their own cause . 3. Whether it be not a manifest abuse of the Scriptures , and a presumptuous intruding into the office of Christ , positively to affirm that the sins of any man shall never be forgiven in this world , nor in that which is to come , meerly because he denies that light that is in every man that comes into the world to be saving ; In as much as the Scripture no where saith that that light is saving . 4. Whether do not this people censure all the men and women in the world , ( as well as the Author of these papers ) to be out of the first step that leads to Christianity , to be infidels , and to be accursed , if they deny the light that is in every man that comes into the world to be saving . And whether is not this asmuch as to say , that they only , and none besides themselves are Christians ; And whether is not this a great appearance of pride in them , thus highly to extol themselves above all others . 5. And whether , are not all these censures directly contrary to the Scriptures , and such as make them lyable to greater Judgment . Matt. ●● . 2. Jam. 3. 1 , 2. 6. Whether do not these clamours , and evil speakings , for which there is no Scriptural warrant , manifestly slow from bitterness , anger , ●rath , malice , as the Apostle intimates , Eph. 4. 31. 7. Whether any wise experienced Christian can judge this people to be in a perfect sinless estate , who appear with these open sinful revilings , cursings , judgings , in their mouthes . Nay-since they boast and glory in this their shame ; Whether is it not evident that they are servants of Corruption ? 8. Whether this hath not bin their manner all along , to strive to overcome with these carnal weapons , threatenings , censurings , cursings , revilings , &c. And since no spiritual weapon is yet employed in the management of their cause , whether have not all persons just cause to suspect t●● badness of it , and that as the weapons are carnal , and devilish , so is their cause supported thereby . 9. Whether it be not abominable wickedness to father all their evil speeches upon the Holy Ghost , and to say when they curse , rayle , revile , speak falsly and frothily , that it is by his inspiration and command . 10. Whether can any man rationally conclude , that these people beare any true love to that person whom they judge to be an enemy of God , and ●●cursed , and whose sins shall never be forgiven in this world , nor in the world to come ? Or rather , when they profess love , and say they desire his eternal welfare , is not there just ground to believe that they speak lyes in Hypocrisie , as it 's said Apostates should do in the later times , 1 Tim. 4. 2. 〈◊〉 11. Do they not plainly discover a persecuting spirit in the forementioned revilings , and may not any man in reason conclude , that whom they judge an enemy of God , and accursed , they would use as such if they had power . 12. Lastly , I leave it to be considered , by such as will take the paines to read the account which I have given of the light within , whether they do not speak all this evil of me , merely because I have told them the truth , and not for any other cause , &c. By that time thou hast well considered these Queries , and by the resolution of them , hast gained a better understanding of this people , ●●robable ( if providence intermit not ) another sheet may be pre●●ted to thy hand , with a further discovery of the mystery of Iniquity . In the mean time , I shall finish this with a few Cautions to all ●●ts of people , but more especially to young weak inquiring persons . 1. Take heed of that Religion that begins with a lye : for it is certainly a great judgment of God to be given up to believe a lye , 2 Thess . 2. 10 , 11. And 〈◊〉 the first step to this peoples Religion is an abominable lye , and that every one is taught and required at his entrance into their religion to believe 〈◊〉 lye , I have shewed in my former paper . 2. Take heed of that spirit that denies either directly or consequentially Christ come in the flesh , for that is the spirit of Antichrist , 1 Joh. 4. 3. And he that biddeth such a one God speed , is partaker of his evill deeds , 2 Joh. 11. 3. Take heed of those persons ( how fair soever their pretences be ) who have no better weapons to defend their doctrine with , then censures , judgings , threatenings , curses , for that was not the way of Christ , and his Apostles ; And of those who can curse men , and bless God with the same mouth , for that ought not to be , Jam. 3. 9 , 10. Eph. 5. 6. Let no man deceive you with vaine words . FINIS . Notes, typically marginal, from the original text Notes for div A65980-e420 1 Tim. 3. 19 , 20. with 2 Tim. 2. 17 , 18. Luke 17. 23. 1 John 4. 1. Notes for div A65980-e1760 The first occasion of the debate . Their fir●● Letter . An Answer to that first Letter 2 Tim. 2. 23. * Subjective . His second Letter to me . The Queries set upon the door An Answer to his second Letter . Their carriages towards me in my Chamber . My offer to meet them upon conditions . Their agreement to mee● , with some alterations of the conditions . My assen●●o their alterations . Our mee●●●ng disappointed by the Gaoler . The meeting begins . Some things prem●sed in order to the debate . The Assertion to be proved . ● ▪ Argum Joh. Stubbs Answers . My reply to J. Stubbs ▪ The reason why a natural man cannot know , nor discern the things of the Spirit , is , Because he hath not the Spirit . The disorderly carriage of somo Who were obstreperous . Geo. Fox asserts the Spirit of Christ to be in every man. The first Scripture brought to prove his Assertion . Answer . The second Scripture brought to prove their Assertion . Answer . Not all Israel , but such only as are born of the spirit , have the 〈…〉 A third Scripture . Answer . A fourth Scripture . Answer . A fifth Scripture . Answer . A sixt Scripture . Answer . None of the Scriptures brought by them weaken my Arguments . 2. Arg. 3 Arg. 4. Argum. 5. Arg. No Answers given to weaken my Arguments . Their harsh censures wherwith the meeting was concluded . The fruit of that spirit by which this People are led . An Answer to their Censures . Railing not to be rendered for railing . Christ not the●e example . Their lies and false accusations The chief occasion of their censure . What they call the Light with in . What is their first lye . Three reasons of the additional discourse of the Light within . Five particulars premised . A twofold light within man What the light within is , as it respects the affections . What the Light in every man is as It respecteth the understanding . The Spirit , or lig●t in every man is no● the Lord. The light in every man is infer●or to the ●ight of Angels . Vis ratiocinativa a 〈◊〉 facultas intelligendi . What the Light in Adam before the fall could do . There is a Law written in every mans heart This Law is not God. Proved . * Though the Hebrew words 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 creavit , formavit , fec●t , may have a different signification , as appears in Isa . 43. 7. in which verse they are all used : yet this may be gathered from them all , that the the thing created , formed or made , is not the Creator , &c. A summa●y account of the Light● in man before the fall The Light in man before the fall could not manifest a Redeemer . The Light in man since the fall , not such as it was before the fall . The Light and Law remaining in faln man , is sufficient to render God righteous when he iudgeth the disobedient A fourfold use of the Light in every man. 1. To make manifest . 2. To direct 3. To convince . What Conscience is . The knowledg of sin is by the Law. What is the Lord● Witness in all men . What it was that manifested to Adam and Juda● their transgression . 4. To feel after God as Creator . The su● of that which the Light in every man since the fal can do . The Light in every man is a great , an excellent and necessary Light. 2. What it cannot do since the fall . It is a n●tural light . Perse , or sensu diviso . Subjective , or sensu Composito : In what respects the light within every man is Insufficient . 1. It cannot bring , any man to life The tenor of the Law of Works . 2. It cannot discover the Redeemer , it knows nothing of the Gospel Mystery . Which is cleared in several particulars . 3. It knows not the law of fa●th . The tenor of the Law of Faith. The law of Faith is not natural but supernatural . 4. I● cannot convince a man that his not believing in Christ is a sin . What light it is that can discover these great Mysteries . It is the light of Christ Jesus as Mediator , which irradiates the soul with the knowledge of Gospel Mysteries The great Agent by which Christ works , is his Spirit . None partakers of this Light , but new Creatures . The law of faith is writ●ten in the he●● of a new cre●●ture . The Spirit himself dwe●● in the heart a new creatur● The Spirit is that witness that every b●●liever hath i● himself . What the great mistake● of this people is . 〈◊〉 worship the ●●●●t in every 〈◊〉 as the ●●deemer , is 〈◊〉 worship an ●●ol . ●●rist is the ●●ject of faith . ●ho is a de●●iver and an ●●tichrist . ●n Objection ●om Joh. 1. 9. ●●swered . Two things to ●e considered ●oncerning ●●e true light . The true l●●g is the Word God the Creator . Not as God 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 How the true ●ight lighteth ●very man that ●ometh into ●he World. 2. Objection . Answer . The word made Flesh is only called Christ . The Word made flesh , doth only bring life and mortality to light . The Word made flesh● doth only lig●●ten savingly those that blieve on hi● The Word made flesh is given for a Covenant . The light g●●ven by the Word made flesh , is far more excelle●● then the lig●● set up in ever●● man , by the Word the Creator , The misunder●standing of Joh. 1. 9. is from a neglect● of a distinct consideration of the Word , and the Word made flesh . ●●e necessity the fore●entioned ●●stinction ●●ared in ●ree parti●lars . The opinion of this people is many waye● injurious to Jesus Christ , and pernitious to the souls of Men. 1. It denies the great mystery of Godliness , ●●d the Lord at bought ●●em . It sets up an ●●ol . ●●hat an I●●ol is . 3. It opens a way to the Doctrine of Daemons , and the worship of the Devil . 4. It leads 〈◊〉 to slight 〈◊〉 Scripture 〈◊〉 rule , and walk after t●● own lusts . 5. It opens door to grea●● confusion . Their Worship is Idolatry . None but Idolaters admitted into the number of their Priends . The manner of their Worship very confused , as it was practised in their Meetings in Lancaster . The names of their Assemblies , & members thereof . Who are their ●●achers . What doctrins are taught by them . What books these doctrine are to be found in . Their foundation being rased , their whole building will fall . This people are objects of pitie . A further Debate offered with this people . 〈◊〉 who teach●● that the ●●ht in every ●●n is Christ , an Anti●●●ist . ●●e reason ●●y the good ●●ings in this ●●ople are ●entioned . ● plea for ●●od things ●ay cloak a ●esign against ●hrist . ●Vhence their ●pinion hath ●ad its advan●age . Antichrist most opposeth Christ when ●he appeareth most like him . Such hath b● the method this people . What hath rendred persons unable deal with them . Whence so many have embraced the false doctrine and way . The wrong way that ma●ny have take i●● to suppress their errours . The right way to suppress their errours . What things are commendable , and t● be owned in them . ●ow one may ●●me to dis●n their se●t deceipts . Notes for div A65980-e13080 Characters false Prophet in the last days . The spirit of the Quakers and of the Dragon compared . Such as oppose themselves should be answered in meekness . The Quakers in stead of Answers return Invectives . Calumniation no refutation . The Quakers maledictions . How many sheets they have filled with raylin● Language . Wherein th● Quakers fol●● manifest . A right Spir● would have led them a better way . When Antichrist speaks like a Lamb , and when lik● a Dragon . The vaine shifts of persons maintai●ning Errour . ●uch as say ●●ey are Ap●●●tles , ought to ●●e tryed . Preachers sent , ●hough Me●hanicks , are to ●e esteemed . We must not ●id God speed ●o those that ●ring not doctrine of Christ . When false Apostles are ●ryed , they will be found ●ars . A request to the Reader . Queries to considered .