The true ministers living of the Gospel, distinguished from the false ministers living upon tithes and forced maintenance. With a word of reproof (preceding the distinction) to the ministers of the nation, whose kingdom is already shaken and divided against itself. And the iniquity and antichristianism of that ministry which is upheld by forced maintenance, briefly discovered according to the scriptures of the Old and New Testament. In a brief reply to a book stiled, An answer to a Quakers seventeen heads of quaeries, by John Bewick, who calls himself a minister of the Gospel, and rector of the parish church of Stanhop in Weredale in the county of Durham.
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             The true ministers living of the Gospel, distinguished from the false ministers living upon tithes and forced maintenance. With a word of reproof (preceding the distinction) to the ministers of the nation, whose kingdom is already shaken and divided against itself. And the iniquity and antichristianism of that ministry which is upheld by forced maintenance, briefly discovered according to the scriptures of the Old and New Testament. In a brief reply to a book stiled, An answer to a Quakers seventeen heads of quaeries, by John Bewick, who calls himself a minister of the Gospel, and rector of the parish church of Stanhop in Weredale in the county of Durham.
             Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723.
             Naylor, James, 1617?-1660.
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           THE
           True
           Ministers
           Living
           of
           the
           GOSPEL
           ,
           Distinguished
           from
           the
           False
           Ministers
           Living
           upon
           Tithes
           and
           forced
           MAINTENANCE
           .
           With
           a
           Word
           of
           Reproof
           (
           preceding
           the
           distinction
           )
           to
           the
           Ministers
           of
           the
           Nation
           ,
           whose
           Kingdom
           is
           already
           shaken
           and
           divided
           against
           it self
           .
           And
           the
           Iniquity
           and
           Antichristianism
           of
           that
           Ministry
           which
           is
           upheld
           by
           forced
           Maintenance
           ,
           briefly
           discovered
           according
           to
           the
           Scriptures
           of
           the
           Old
           and
           New
           Testament
           .
           In
           a
           brief
           Reply
           to
           a
           Book
           stiled
           ,
           
             An
             Answer
             to
             a
             Quakers
             seventeen
             Heads
             of
             Quaeries
             ,
             by
          
           John
           Bewick
           ,
           
             who
             calls
             himself
             a
          
           Minister
           
             of
             the
             Gospel
             ,
             and
             Rector
             of
             the
             Parish
             Church
             of
          
           Stanhop
           
             in
          
           Weredale
           
             in
             the
             County
             of
          
           Durham
           .
        
         
           
             Ye
             eat
             the
             fat
             and
             ye
             clothe
             you
             with
             the
             wooll
             ,
             ye
             kill
             them
             that
             are
             fed
             ,
             but
             ye
             feed
             not
             the
             flock
             ,
             the
             diseased
             have
             ye
             not
             strengthened
             ,
             neither
             have
             ye
             healed
             that
             which
             was
             sick
             ,
             neither
             have
             ye
             bound
             up
             that
             which
             was
             broken
             ,
             neither
             have
             ye
             brought
             again
             that
             which
             was
             driven
             away
             ,
             neither
             have
             ye
             sought
             that
             which
             was
             lost
             ,
             but
             with
             force
             and
             with
             cruelty
             have
             ye
             ruled
             over
             them
             ,
          
           
             Ezek.
             34.
             3.
             4.
             
          
        
         
           
             London
             ,
          
           Printed
           for
           
             Thomas
             Simmons
          
           at
           the
           signe
           of
           the
           
             Bull
          
           and
           
             Mouth
          
           near
           
             Aldersgate
             .
          
           1660.
           
        
      
    
     
       
       
       
         
           A
           Word
           to
           the
           said
           
             Iohn
             Bewick
          
           and
           the
           rest
           of
           his
           Brethren
           the
           hireling
           Priests
           who
           are
           in
           his
           way
           .
        
         
           VVHither
           are
           you
           now
           run
           for
           a
           refuge
           and
           defence
           for
           your
           Tithes
           and
           set
           maintenance
           ?
           doth
           all
           your
           old
           grounds
           fail
           you
           that
           formerly
           you
           have
           pleaded
           ?
           are
           you
           driven
           out
           of
           Scriptures
           of
           Christ
           and
           his
           Apostles
           ,
           out
           of
           all
           the
           Law
           of
           God
           there
           ,
           and
           out
           of
           Law
           of
           Nations
           and
           Countreys
           ,
           and
           would
           you
           now
           fly
           to
           
             Melchisedek
          
           for
           help
           ?
           what
           is
           there
           no
           scripture
           command
           that
           will
           own
           you
           in
           your
           yearly
           stipends
           ,
           and
           are
           you
           afraid
           of
           mens
           Laws
           failing
           you
           ,
           and
           are
           you
           now
           fled
           from
           all
           your
           former
           pleas
           ,
           and
           think
           you
           to
           find
           help
           from
           
             Melchisedek
             ?
          
           did
           you
           not
           formerly
           plead
           Divine
           Right
           ,
           and
           told
           us
           by
           Scriptures
           you
           would
           prove
           it
           ,
           and
           then
           being
           driven
           out
           of
           all
           commands
           or
           examples
           in
           Scriptures
           ,
           then
           you
           pleaded
           the
           custome
           of
           the
           Countrey
           ,
           and
           National
           Law
           ,
           and
           by
           that
           in
           
             Olivers
          
           time
           you
           took
           mens
           goods
           ,
           and
           cast
           them
           into
           prison
           ,
           and
           made
           havock
           and
           spoil
           abundantly
           ,
           and
           then
           many
           of
           you
           would
           not
           plead
           scripture
           at
           all
           ,
           but
           by
           custome
           and
           humane
           Law
           you
           would
           have
           it
           ?
           and
           dare
           you
           no
           longer
           depend
           upon
           that
           ,
           and
           dare
           you
           now
           think
           
             Melchisedek
          
           will
           stand
           you
           in
           stead
           ,
           or
           own
           you
           in
           your
           work
           and
           trading
           ,
           any
           more
           then
           the
           Prophets
           and
           Apostles
           ?
           what
           are
           ye
           of
           the
           Order
           of
           
             Melchisedek
          
           now
           ,
           who
           but
           a
           while
           ago
           must
           needs
           plead
           the
           order
           of
           
             Levi
             ;
          
           and
           then
           when
           that
           order
           and
           your
           manners
           will
           not
           stand
           together
           ,
           then
           you
           pleaded
           the
           order
           of
           the
           Nations
           ;
           and
           now
           thou
           
             S.
             B.
          
           in
           thy
           book
           would
           make
           people
           believe
           that
           you
           are
           after
           the
           order
           of
           
             Melchisedek
             ,
          
           and
           that
           Tithes
           was
           yours
           before
           they
           were
           given
           to
           
             Levi
             ,
          
           and
           that
           he
           had
           them
           but
           for
           a
           time
           by
           a
           special
           command
           ,
           till
           you
           came
           ,
           and
           then
           you
           were
           to
           come
           up
           after
           the
           order
           of
           
             Melchisedek
             ,
          
           and
           so
           you
           must
           now
           enjoy
           them
           for
           ever
           ,
           &c.
           
        
         
           But
           now
           you
           must
           be
           tried
           in
           the
           light
           whether
           you
           be
           of
           that
           
           order
           or
           no
           ,
           as
           well
           as
           you
           have
           been
           tryed
           with
           the
           order
           of
           
             Levi
             ;
          
           And
           if
           you
           be
           found
           of
           his
           order
           ,
           then
           we
           will
           grant
           you
           to
           have
           right
           to
           his
           maintenance
           ,
           (
           if
           you
           will
           be
           but
           content
           with
           it
           )
           for
           we
           must
           needs
           think
           it
           meet
           ,
           that
           Children
           should
           inherit
           the
           right
           of
           their
           Father
           ;
           so
           if
           you
           be
           
             Melchisedeks
          
           children
           ,
           you
           will
           do
           his
           works
           ,
           which
           was
           to
           relieve
           the
           weary
           Souldier
           with
           his
           own
           bread
           and
           wine
           ;
           so
           you
           may
           expect
           his
           reward
           ,
           if
           they
           be
           free
           to
           give
           it
           you
           ,
           as
           
             Abram
          
           was
           of
           his
           spoiles
           ;
           For
           we
           never
           read
           that
           it
           was
           the
           order
           of
           
             Melchisedeck
          
           to
           ravine
           about
           after
           outward
           things
           ,
           nor
           sued
           people
           for
           hire
           ,
           nor
           spoiled
           their
           estates
           ,
           nor
           cast
           them
           into
           prison
           ,
           nor
           any
           way
           sought
           after
           gifts
           or
           rewards
           ,
           nor
           do
           we
           read
           that
           he
           ever
           required
           or
           received
           any
           yearly
           tythes
           of
           any
           people
           or
           Parish
           ,
           either
           ●●eaves
           ,
           beasts
           ,
           swine
           ,
           fowls
           or
           the
           like
           ,
           which
           was
           to
           relieve
           their
           families
           ,
           from
           any
           creature
           ,
           but
           as
           he
           was
           the
           Priest
           of
           the
           most
           high
           God
           ,
           not
           called
           nor
           made
           of
           men
           ,
           so
           he
           was
           maintained
           by
           him
           ,
           and
           not
           by
           men
           ,
           and
           he
           was
           like
           to
           him
           that
           called
           him
           ,
           a
           bountiful
           man
           ,
           ready
           to
           give
           ,
           ready
           to
           blesse
           ,
           and
           to
           relieve
           others
           in
           their
           way
           ,
           as
           appears
           in
           what
           he
           did
           to
           
             Abram
          
           and
           his
           Army
           in
           the
           way
           ,
           he
           met
           them
           with
           bread
           and
           wine
           ,
           and
           gave
           them
           freely
           ,
           and
           asked
           them
           nothing
           again
           ,
           and
           so
           he
           received
           freely
           tythes
           of
           
             Abrams
          
           spoiles
           ,
           but
           never
           can
           any
           of
           you
           prove
           that
           he
           had
           the
           tythes
           of
           
             Abrams
          
           Estate
           ,
           stock
           ,
           or
           tillage
           ,
           nor
           ever
           demanded
           or
           sued
           ,
           or
           took
           by
           force
           any
           part
           of
           any
           mans
           goods
           upon
           any
           pretence
           whatsoever
           .
        
         
           So
           here
           is
           
             Melchisedecks
          
           order
           ,
           if
           you
           be
           of
           it
           and
           his
           children
           ,
           then
           you
           will
           own
           it
           ,
           and
           it
           will
           own
           you
           ,
           and
           we
           shall
           own
           it
           also
           in
           you
           ;
           And
           in
           this
           order
           we
           find
           him
           who
           was
           of
           that
           Priest-hood
           ,
           Christ
           Jesus
           ,
           a
           Priest
           for
           ever
           after
           his
           order
           ,
           who
           to
           us
           is
           an
           example
           for
           ever
           ,
           and
           all
           that
           walk
           contrary
           we
           deny
           ,
           who
           said
           ,
           it
           's
           more
           blessed
           to
           give
           then
           to
           receive
           ,
           who
           was
           bountifull
           in
           feeding
           others
           ,
           but
           for
           himself
           he
           had
           not
           where
           to
           lay
           his
           head
           ,
           this
           was
           after
           the
           order
           of
           
             Melchisedeck
             ,
          
           and
           all
           his
           are
           after
           him
           for
           ever
           ,
           and
           therefore
           none
           of
           his
           Ministers
           did
           ever
           require
           any
           thing
           for
           themselves
           but
           what
           was
           free
           ,
           not
           coveting
           any
           mans
           gold
           ,
           money
           ,
           or
           apparel
           ,
           nor
           ever
           in
           the
           least
           did
           mention
           tythes
           to
           themselves
           ,
           or
           make
           any
           yearly
           bargain
           about
           carnal
           things
           whatsoever
           ,
           but
           preached
           freely
           and
           received
           freely
           ,
           or
           nothing
           .
           And
           this
           in
           Scriptures
           
           we
           find
           to
           be
           the
           order
           of
           
             Melchisedeck
             ,
          
           and
           the
           order
           of
           Christ
           and
           of
           his
           Apostles
           ,
           if
           you
           can
           receive
           it
           .
        
         
           But
           on
           the
           contrary
           ,
           when
           we
           see
           a
           sort
           of
           men
           who
           never
           heard
           Gods
           voice
           ,
           running
           and
           enquiring
           who
           can
           get
           the
           greatest
           yearly
           stipend
           ,
           Tythes
           ,
           or
           augmentation
           ,
           and
           tearing
           peoples
           bodies
           and
           estates
           if
           they
           get
           it
           not
           ,
           according
           to
           the
           havock
           that
           hath
           been
           made
           by
           the
           Priests
           of
           this
           Nation
           in
           these
           late
           yeares
           ,
           this
           was
           never
           the
           order
           of
           
             Melchisedeck
             ,
          
           Christ
           ,
           or
           his
           Apostles
           ,
           nor
           the
           order
           of
           
             Aaron
          
           neither
           ,
           who
           had
           a
           law
           for
           Tythes
           ,
           but
           the
           order
           of
           
             Eli's
          
           sons
           ,
           who
           was
           sons
           of
           
             Belial
             ,
          
           who
           knew
           not
           the
           Lord
           ,
           And
           therefore
           sent
           their
           servants
           to
           take
           it
           by
           force
           ,
           as
           now
           hath
           been
           done
           ,
           to
           the
           spoiling
           of
           many
           families
           .
        
         
           So
           you
           are
           found
           further
           from
           the
           order
           of
           
             Melchisedeck
             ,
          
           Christ
           ,
           and
           his
           Apostles
           ,
           then
           from
           the
           order
           of
           
             Levi
             ,
          
           as
           far
           as
           the
           Priest-hood
           and
           ministration
           of
           Christ
           exceeds
           in
           bounty
           and
           freenesse
           the
           ministration
           of
           
             Moses
             ,
          
           so
           far
           are
           you
           come
           short
           in
           your
           orders
           and
           manners
           ,
           in
           this
           covetous
           practise
           ,
           after
           earthly
           things
           .
           And
           you
           are
           seen
           to
           be
           after
           the
           order
           of
           those
           that
           minded
           earthly
           things
           ,
           which
           the
           Apostles
           foretold
           of
           ,
           who
           were
           coming
           up
           in
           their
           time
           ,
           who
           served
           not
           the
           Lord
           Jesus
           Christ
           ,
           but
           their
           own
           bellies
           ,
           and
           made
           merchandize
           of
           people
           in
           their
           times
           ,
           through
           covetous
           practises
           ,
           and
           this
           hath
           been
           the
           order
           and
           manners
           of
           you
           ,
           as
           your
           practises
           hath
           proved
           it
           in
           these
           late
           years
           ,
           to
           the
           ruining
           of
           many
           families
           ,
           and
           so
           your
           manners
           hath
           declared
           your
           order
           and
           descent
           ,
           none
           that
           ever
           was
           from
           above
           doing
           such
           things
           .
        
         
           So
           it
           's
           in
           vain
           to
           seek
           to
           cover
           that
           with
           words
           which
           is
           so
           monstrously
           broken
           out
           into
           contrary
           actions
           ;
           The
           Sheeps
           cloathing
           can
           no
           longer
           cover
           your
           various
           natures
           ,
           and
           for
           this
           end
           hath
           God
           left
           you
           to
           your selves
           ,
           that
           your
           practises
           may
           exceed
           ,
           and
           so
           make
           you
           manifest
           to
           the
           full
           ,
           and
           thus
           hath
           he
           left
           you
           ,
           that
           the
           more
           you
           seek
           to
           cover
           your selves
           with
           deceitfull
           words
           ,
           the
           more
           you
           give
           occasion
           for
           people
           to
           mind
           your
           unanswerable
           lives
           ,
           which
           are
           become
           so
           boundlesse
           in
           covetousnesse
           ,
           pride
           ,
           and
           oppression
           ,
           That
           neither
           Christ
           ,
           
             Melchisedeck
             ,
          
           nor
           
             Moses
             ,
          
           can
           own
           you
           therein
           ,
           nor
           will
           answer
           what
           you
           do
           ,
           so
           that
           when
           you
           have
           done
           what
           you
           can
           ,
           you
           must
           be
           driven
           back
           to
           her
           that
           brought
           you
           forth
           ,
           who
           rides
           upon
           the
           beast
           ,
           for
           no
           other
           power
           will
           own
           you
           ,
           nor
           bear
           you
           in
           your
           
           practises
           .
           O
           unreasonable
           men
           ,
           what
           unreasonable
           work
           have
           you
           made
           in
           these
           late
           years
           in
           this
           Nation
           ?
           what
           begging
           and
           petitioning
           have
           you
           made
           to
           every
           severall
           power
           ,
           to
           enlarge
           your
           benefits
           ?
           what
           thrusting
           out
           one
           another
           out
           of
           great
           livings
           to
           get
           in
           your selves
           ,
           And
           when
           you
           have
           got
           in
           ,
           what
           havock
           have
           you
           made
           of
           the
           peoples
           Estates
           ,
           and
           still
           cryed
           to
           the
           earthly
           powers
           for
           more
           maintenance
           ?
           what
           sueing
           and
           casting
           in
           prisons
           of
           poor
           people
           ?
           how
           have
           you
           cursed
           the
           great
           ones
           that
           was
           over
           you
           ,
           when
           they
           would
           not
           serve
           your
           turn
           ?
           and
           stirred
           up
           wars
           against
           them
           ,
           till
           all
           hath
           been
           as
           heaps
           by
           your
           means
           ?
           how
           have
           you
           flattered
           such
           as
           would
           feed
           you
           while
           they
           had
           power
           ,
           and
           when
           they
           fell
           ,
           then
           you
           have
           reviled
           them
           ,
           and
           crept
           under
           the
           next
           ,
           and
           flattered
           them
           also
           ?
           and
           all
           for
           Tythes
           ,
           and
           augmentations
           and
           the
           like
           ,
           which
           thou
           callest
           the
           golden
           oyl
           ;
           And
           yet
           you
           would
           have
           us
           believe
           you
           are
           not
           covetous
           ,
           nor
           preach
           for
           lucre
           ;
           And
           you
           do
           deceive
           with
           your
           fained
           words
           such
           as
           are
           not
           able
           to
           judge
           between
           your
           words
           and
           your
           practice
           ,
           and
           so
           the
           blind
           lead
           the
           blind
           ,
           and
           you
           hate
           the
           light
           that
           discovers
           you
           ,
           and
           we
           can
           truly
           say
           that
           it
           is
           not
           because
           we
           have
           wronged
           ,
           or
           falsly
           slandered
           you
           ,
           that
           you
           thus
           hate
           us
           above
           all
           men
           ,
           but
           for
           the
           light
           that
           is
           in
           us
           ,
           and
           the
           truth
           that
           makes
           you
           manifest
           ;
           And
           we
           have
           Gods
           witnesse
           with
           us
           ,
           and
           in
           us
           ,
           that
           we
           hate
           not
           your
           persons
           ,
           but
           your
           ungodly
           practises
           ,
           and
           so
           much
           the
           more
           are
           we
           made
           to
           testifie
           against
           you
           ,
           as
           you
           seek
           to
           cover
           your selves
           with
           wresting
           the
           Scriptures
           ,
           and
           taking
           the
           name
           of
           Christs
           Ministers
           upon
           you
           ,
           but
           walk
           in
           such
           waies
           as
           none
           of
           his
           ever
           walked
           in
           ;
           And
           in
           faithfulnesse
           to
           God
           and
           godly
           men
           ,
           we
           cannot
           allow
           you
           neither
           
             Melchisedeck
             ,
          
           Christ
           ,
           nor
           his
           Apostles
           ,
           nor
           any
           of
           their
           words
           to
           cover
           you
           ,
           untill
           you
           come
           into
           their
           lives
           ,
           and
           leave
           your
           devouring
           covetous
           practises
           .
        
         
           And
           couldst
           thou
           blush
           ,
           thou
           hadst
           never
           had
           a
           face
           to
           have
           quoted
           such
           Scriptures
           in
           this
           thy
           Book
           ,
           and
           laid
           them
           upon
           the
           false
           Prophets
           and
           false
           teachers
           of
           old
           ,
           whilst
           thy self
           is
           found
           in
           the
           very
           same
           steps
           ;
           so
           that
           modesty
           cannot
           but
           admire
           how
           thou
           couldst
           passe
           through
           them
           ,
           and
           not
           be
           wounded
           in
           thy
           Conscience
           and
           made
           ashamed
           ,
           what
           a
           fore-head
           have
           you
           got
           ?
        
         
           Or
           that
           ever
           thou
           shouldst
           so
           much
           as
           mention
           one
           Scripture
           of
           the
           Apostles
           ,
           or
           any
           Ministers
           of
           Christ
           since
           the
           Law
           ,
           to
           
           prove
           Tythes
           due
           to
           a
           Minister
           of
           Christ
           under
           the
           Gospel
           ,
           a
           thing
           which
           none
           of
           them
           ever
           owned
           ,
           or
           so
           much
           as
           mentioned
           ,
           otherwise
           then
           as
           to
           deny
           them
           ;
           what
           a
           reprobate
           sense
           is
           some
           men
           now
           given
           up
           to
           ,
           or
           was
           ever
           truth
           so
           perverted
           ,
           contrary
           to
           the
           life
           and
           practice
           thereof
           ?
        
         
           And
           as
           for
           
             Melchisedeck
             ,
          
           whom
           thou
           wouldst
           make
           thy
           refuge
           ,
           he
           will
           not
           own
           you
           ,
           nor
           serve
           your
           turn
           ,
           who
           onely
           received
           Tythes
           of
           the
           spoil
           ,
           of
           what
           was
           taken
           by
           the
           sword
           ,
           and
           that
           but
           once
           ,
           and
           that
           not
           by
           command
           nor
           demand
           ,
           but
           by
           a
           free
           gift
           ,
           upon
           his
           feeding
           the
           Souldiers
           first
           with
           bread
           and
           wine
           ,
           freely
           ;
           how
           this
           will
           afford
           you
           an
           everlasting
           Law
           ,
           to
           demand
           the
           tenth
           of
           peoples
           labours
           and
           estates
           ,
           by
           which
           they
           should
           relieve
           their
           families
           ,
           and
           not
           finding
           them
           free
           therein
           ,
           to
           take
           it
           by
           violence
           ,
           they
           are
           blind
           indeed
           who
           sees
           you
           not
           therein
           ,
           your
           false
           ground
           ,
           and
           false
           covers
           .
        
         
           And
           whereas
           you
           Teachers
           use
           your
           tongues
           for
           your
           great
           Tythes
           ,
           and
           set
           maintenance
           ,
           and
           the
           more
           to
           prevaile
           upon
           doubtfull
           minded
           people
           ,
           you
           take
           the
           Apostles
           words
           ,
           and
           by
           putting
           your
           meanings
           on
           them
           ,
           make
           some
           people
           believe
           ,
           that
           when
           they
           spoke
           of
           living
           on
           the
           Gospel
           ,
           they
           meant
           Tithes
           ,
           and
           augmentations
           
             &c.
             
          
           We
           say
           alas
           deceived
           men
           ,
           you
           cannot
           deceive
           us
           therewith
           ,
           for
           we
           in
           plainnesse
           tell
           you
           ,
           that
           the
           practice
           of
           the
           true
           Prophets
           and
           Apostles
           ,
           gives
           the
           true
           and
           open
           meanings
           of
           their
           teachings
           and
           writings
           ,
           and
           to
           that
           must
           you
           come
           before
           their
           words
           can
           own
           you
           ,
           or
           we
           allow
           you
           their
           words
           ,
           as
           to
           have
           part
           or
           possession
           in
           them
           ,
           for
           we
           know
           the
           true
           Ministers
           of
           Christ
           preached
           not
           for
           their
           bellies
           ,
           nor
           their
           Master-ships
           ,
           nor
           sought
           themselves
           ,
           nor
           ever
           named
           Tythes
           as
           belonging
           to
           them
           in
           any
           case
           ,
           nor
           was
           ever
           augmentation
           in
           the
           bargain
           to
           any
           people
           ,
           as
           to
           their
           preaching
           and
           gospel
           ,
           nor
           did
           they
           claim
           a
           great
           house
           to
           dwell
           in
           ,
           but
           in
           all
           things
           laboured
           to
           follow
           their
           Lord
           and
           Master
           ,
           who
           had
           no
           possession
           in
           the
           earth
           ,
           for
           which
           they
           left
           what
           they
           had
           of
           their
           own
           to
           be
           as
           he
           was
           ,
           and
           preached
           freely
           as
           he
           did
           ,
           and
           this
           testimony
           is
           given
           of
           them
           in
           the
           Scriptures
           of
           truth
           ,
           that
           they
           wandred
           to
           and
           fro
           ,
           in
           hunger
           ,
           cold
           ,
           and
           nakednesse
           ,
           having
           no
           certain
           dwelling
           place
           ,
           and
           this
           was
           their
           reward
           ,
           namely
           to
           make
           the
           gospel
           without
           charge
           ,
           that
           it
           might
           be
           as
           free
           to
           others
           as
           they
           had
           received
           it
           of
           God
           ,
           and
           they
           never
           handled
           the
           word
           for
           gain
           ,
           nor
           taught
           for
           filthy
           lucre
           ,
           nor
           made
           merchandize
           
           with
           it
           ,
           
             as
             what
             will
             you
             give
             me
             ,
             Judas
             like
             ,
          
           nor
           had
           they
           great
           houses
           to
           live
           in
           ,
           and
           great
           Tythe
           barns
           to
           lay
           up
           earthly
           treasure
           ,
           nor
           any
           way
           exercised
           covetous
           practises
           ,
           but
           had
           whole
           Churches
           ,
           to
           which
           they
           had
           not
           been
           chargeable
           at
           all
           .
        
         
           Now
           for
           men
           to
           take
           such
           mens
           words
           ,
           to
           cover
           their
           covetous
           cruell
           and
           ravinous
           spoil
           and
           Imprisonments
           ,
           would
           be
           as
           the
           taking
           a
           Sheeps
           skin
           to
           put
           on
           a
           Wolfs
           back
           ,
           and
           then
           say
           he
           is
           a
           Sheep
           ,
           which
           might
           deceive
           the
           Sheep
           ,
           but
           could
           not
           change
           the
           Wolves
           nature
           ;
           wherefore
           we
           cannot
           see
           the
           holy
           men
           of
           God
           so
           abused
           ,
           and
           be
           silent
           ,
           as
           to
           have
           their
           words
           so
           wrested
           quite
           contrary
           to
           the
           life
           thereof
           ,
           and
           their
           godly
           innocent
           lives
           so
           wronged
           ,
           as
           to
           be
           presented
           as
           men
           of
           such
           manners
           and
           behaviour
           ;
           So
           let
           them
           alone
           ,
           and
           their
           holy
           words
           and
           godly
           innocent
           lives
           ,
           abuse
           them
           not
           by
           taking
           them
           into
           your
           mouths
           ,
           so
           as
           to
           represent
           them
           to
           be
           men
           of
           your
           order
           or
           behaviour
           .
        
         
           And
           
             Melchisedeck
             ,
          
           and
           Christ
           ,
           cause
           not
           their
           names
           to
           be
           evill
           thought
           on
           ,
           by
           making
           people
           believe
           them
           to
           be
           fathers
           or
           authors
           of
           such
           spoil
           and
           bondage
           to
           poor
           people
           ,
           or
           of
           the
           true
           gospel
           being
           so
           chargeable
           ,
           this
           is
           charged
           upon
           you
           all
           ,
           as
           you
           will
           answer
           him
           in
           his
           day
           ,
           when
           he
           comes
           in
           all
           his
           holy
           ones
           whom
           wicked
           men
           have
           belyed
           ,
           and
           in
           the
           mean
           time
           be
           ashamed
           of
           your
           comparing
           your selves
           with
           them
           ,
           and
           confounded
           in
           your
           abuse
           of
           the
           holy
           Scriptures
           ,
           and
           of
           holy
           mens
           lives
           ,
           for
           the
           light
           is
           come
           from
           on
           high
           ,
           and
           guile
           is
           found
           in
           your
           mouths
           and
           earthlinesse
           in
           your
           minds
           .
        
         
           And
           you
           that
           call
           your
           carnal
           maintenance
           of
           tythes
           and
           augmentations
           the
           golden
           oyl
           ,
           (
           as
           thou
           dost
           in
           thy
           book
           )
           are
           seen
           in
           the
           light
           of
           God
           to
           be
           wholly
           ignorant
           of
           the
           true
           annointing
           ,
           which
           should
           give
           you
           sight
           in
           your selves
           ,
           and
           so
           cannot
           lead
           others
           out
           of
           the
           world
           ;
           And
           it
           's
           no
           wonder
           that
           you
           so
           oppose
           the
           true
           light
           ,
           your
           lamp
           must
           needs
           be
           darknesse
           when
           earthly
           things
           is
           your
           oyl
           ,
           your
           gold
           must
           needs
           be
           drosse
           ,
           and
           your
           prize
           below
           the
           mark
           of
           election
           ,
           and
           corruption
           carries
           the
           draught
           in
           your
           ballance
           ,
           whose
           golden
           oyl
           is
           earthly
           things
           ,
           you
           are
           seen
           to
           be
           the
           men
           who
           have
           in
           you
           the
           false
           measure
           ,
           and
           bag
           of
           deceitful
           weights
           ,
           how
           is
           the
           holy
           one
           prized
           in
           you
           ,
           how
           is
           the
           invisible
           disallowed
           ,
           and
           how
           have
           you
           put
           the
           price
           upon
           carnal
           things
           ,
           whose
           gold
           is
           become
           drosse
           ,
           and
           corruption
           counted
           gold
           ,
           are
           you
           the
           lights
           of
           these
           dayes
           ?
           
           
             and
             Honour
             ,
             and
             Glory
             ,
             and
             Blessing
             ,
             Revel.
          
           5.
           12.
           so
           that
           they
           might
           as
           well
           have
           scoft
           at
           the
           Angels
           of
           God
           ,
           who
           spake
           these
           words
           ,
           as
           at
           us
           ;
           and
           have
           said
           that
           the
           Power
           that
           reaches
           to
           the
           seed
           is
           Christ
           ,
           and
           then
           Christ
           is
           worthy
           to
           receive
           Christ
           ,
           as
           also
           they
           have
           done
           in
           like
           manner
           in
           their
           scorn
           ,
           in
           page
           63.
           wherein
           they
           have
           shewed
           their
           gross
           ignorance
           of
           the
           several
           manifestations
           of
           Christ
           ,
           the
           seed
           in
           his
           People
           ,
           who
           are
           of
           the
           seed
           of
           
             Abraham
             ,
          
           which
           Christ
           took
           upon
           him
           to
           redeem
           his
           own
           ,
           and
           to
           bring
           to
           his
           own
           Power
           and
           promise
           ,
           which
           he
           receives
           of
           the
           Father
           .
           And
           our
           saying
           that
           this
           Seed
           which
           is
           Christ
           where
           he
           suffers
           ,
           and
           is
           burthened
           in
           man
           by
           corruption
           ,
           there
           he
           desires
           to
           be
           free
           from
           the
           burthen
           of
           sin
           ,
           does
           not
           argue
           as
           falsely
           as
           these
           men
           infer
           ,
           that
           it
           cannot
           be
           said
           of
           the
           Seed
           of
           God
           that
           in
           it
           is
           no
           sin
           ,
           for
           Christ
           hath
           suffered
           by
           mens
           sins
           and
           been
           pressed
           with
           them
           ,
           and
           born
           them
           ,
           
             Amos
          
           2.
           13.
           
           
             Ezek.
          
           6.
           9.
           and
           yet
           in
           him
           is
           no
           sin
           ;
           and
           if
           these
           men
           were
           not
           past
           feeling
           ,
           they
           might
           feel
           how
           the
           Spirit
           of
           the
           just
           in
           them
           ,
           they
           have
           often
           grieved
           ,
           burthened
           and
           afflicted
           by
           their
           own
           sins
           ,
           and
           yet
           in
           that
           Spirit
           there
           is
           no
           sin
           ,
           but
           in
           them
           who
           resist
           it
           .
        
         
           J.
           Horn
           and
           Thomas
           Moor
           ,
           
             say
             their
             Christ
             by
             that
             his
             death
             once
             suffered
             ,
             and
             in
             his
             Resurrection
             in
             that
             his
             Body
             ,
          
           &c
           
             hath
             overcome
             Death
             and
             the
             Devil
             ,
             slain
             the
             enmity
             ,
             and
             taken
             out
             of
             the
             way
             all
             that
             was
             contrary
             to
             them
             ,
             redeemed
             them
             from
             the
             Curse
             of
             the
             Law
             .
          
        
         
           
             I
             Answer
             ,
          
           Herein
           have
           they
           stollen
           the
           Saints
           words
           ,
           which
           they
           are
           out
           of
           the
           like
           of
           ,
           for
           if
           the
           enmity
           were
           taken
           out
           of
           the
           way
           ,
           Sin
           would
           not
           be
           their
           natural
           heritage
           as
           they
           have
           pleaded
           for
           it
           ,
           and
           they
           would
           not
           have
           uttered
           so
           many
           lies
           and
           falsehoods
           as
           they
           have
           done
           ,
           for
           one
           of
           which
           ,
           
             I.
             Horne
          
           hath
           craved
           forgivness
           ;
           and
           if
           all
           that
           's
           contrary
           to
           them
           be
           taken
           out
           of
           their
           way
           ,
           then
           its
           evident
           that
           sin
           and
           the
           Nations
           pollutions
           are
           not
           contrary
           to
           them
           ,
           for
           they
           have
           confessed
           themselves
           too
           much
           to
           have
           a
           share
           in
           them
           ,
           and
           that
           they
           are
           abusers
           of
           the
           Truth
           .
        
         
           And
           to
           that
           ,
           1
           
             Iohn
          
           4.
           17.
           as
           he
           is
           so
           are
           we
           in
           this
           World
           ,
           
             I.
             H.
          
           and
           
             T.
             M.
          
           give
           their
           meaning
           ,
           and
           say
           ,
           
             as
             Christ
             is
             unknown
             ;
             despised
             ,
             hated
             ,
             persecuted
             in
             his
             Doctrine
             ,
             and
             judged
             by
             any
             of
             the
             World
             so
             are
             we
             .
          
        
         
           
             Answ.
          
           In
           this
           have
           they
           apparently
           lyed
           ,
           for
           Christ
           was
           persecuted
           
           to
           Death
           of
           the
           World
           ,
           but
           so
           are
           not
           
             I.
             Horne
          
           nor
           
             T.
             Moor
             ,
          
           neither
           are
           they
           unknown
           of
           the
           World
           as
           Christ
           was
           ,
           for
           Christ
           was
           never
           known
           to
           Preach
           in
           a
           Steeplehouse
           by
           an
           Hour-glass
           for
           Tyths
           ,
           or
           so
           much
           in
           the
           Year
           in
           Leiw
           of
           them
           ,
           like
           the
           Parish
           Priests
           and
           Deceivers
           ,
           who
           are
           out
           of
           the
           steps
           of
           the
           true
           Ministers
           ,
           who
           walked
           after
           Christs
           example
           ,
           &
           not
           after
           the
           hireling
           Priests
           example
           ,
           who
           Preach
           for
           hire
           ,
           and
           gifts
           ,
           and
           reward
           as
           these
           men
           do
           :
           And
           rather
           than
           
             I.
             Horne
          
           will
           freely
           suffer
           by
           the
           World
           as
           Christ
           did
           ,
           take
           heed
           that
           he
           fall
           not
           to
           the
           Common-prayer-book
           .
        
         
           And
           to
           our
           calling
           
             I.
             Horne
          
           a
           Priest
           ,
           he
           sayes
           ,
           
             if
             we
             mean
             he
             is
             a
             Priest
             of
             the
             order
             of
          
           Aaron
           ,
           
             a
             Levitical
             Priest
             ,
             we
             say
             evidently
             false
             .
          
        
         
           
             Answ.
          
           If
           he
           be
           not
           a
           Priest
           of
           the
           order
           of
           
             Aaron
             ,
          
           then
           he
           plainly
           appears
           to
           be
           a
           false
           Priest
           ,
           seeing
           that
           in
           
             Page
          
           70.
           he
           hath
           pleaded
           for
           his
           taking
           Tyths
           ,
           as
           neither
           repugnant
           to
           Gods
           Law
           nor
           Mans
           ;
           as
           also
           his
           practises
           therein
           he
           instances
           ,
           that
           the
           Priests
           had
           their
           several
           Subburbs
           and
           Quarters
           ,
           when
           as
           they
           that
           had
           these
           were
           of
           the
           Levitical
           Priesthood
           ,
           
             Numb.
          
           35.
           
           Which
           Priesthood
           
             I.
             Horne
          
           hath
           plainly
           denyed
           himself
           to
           be
           one
           of
           ,
           and
           yet
           pleads
           for
           Tyths
           which
           pertained
           to
           that
           Priesthood
           which
           Christ
           ended
           ,
           and
           disanulled
           the
           commandment
           which
           gave
           the
           Tyths
           ,
           
             Heb.
          
           7.
           
           So
           what
           hypocrisie
           is
           this
           
             I.
             H.
          
           in
           ,
           who
           claimes
           a
           right
           to
           Tyths
           as
           both
           being
           according
           to
           the
           Law
           of
           God
           and
           Man
           ,
           and
           yet
           upon
           that
           account
           denies
           to
           be
           called
           Priest
           ,
           when
           as
           the
           Law
           of
           God
           calls
           them
           Priests
           that
           took
           Tyths
           ,
           and
           does
           not
           the
           Law
           of
           Man
           the
           like
           ?
           And
           does
           not
           the
           Book
           of
           Common-Prayer
           call
           them
           Priests
           ?
        
         
           So
           that
           upon
           this
           account
           may
           
             I.
             Horne
          
           be
           called
           a
           false
           Priest
           ,
           he
           claiming
           a
           right
           to
           Tyths
           as
           by
           the
           Law
           of
           God
           ,
           when
           as
           the
           service
           of
           the
           Tabernacle
           (
           for
           which
           they
           were
           given
           to
           the
           Prists
           of
           Levie
           )
           he
           is
           out
           of
           
             Numb.
          
           18.
           
           As
           also
           he
           is
           guilty
           of
           the
           false
           Priests
           practises
           ,
           who
           Preached
           for
           hire
           and
           divined
           for
           money
           
             Mica
          
           3.
           11.
           
        
         
           
             I.
             H.
          
           and
           
             T.
             Moor
          
           the
           elder
           and
           the
           younger
           ,
           
             say
             ,
             that
             the
             false
             Apostles
             (
             it
             seems
             by
             what
             the
             Apostles
             writes
             of
             them
          
           2
           Cor.
           11.
           12.
           
           )
           
             they
             use
             to
             boast
             of
             their
             free
             Preaching
             ,
             and
             in
          
           Page
           71.
           
           
             They
             say
             ,
             that
             the
             false
             Apostles
             were
             never
             the
          
           
           
             better
             for
             their
             Paeaching
             freely
             but
             the
             worse
             .
          
        
         
           
             Answ.
          
           Herein
           have
           they
           plainly
           perverted
           that
           of
           2
           
             Cor.
          
           11.
           12.
           for
           there
           is
           no
           speech
           of
           the
           false
           Apostles
           Preaching
           freely
           ;
           see
           the
           malice
           and
           envy
           of
           these
           accusers
           ,
           how
           they
           envy
           the
           practise
           of
           the
           true
           Apostles
           and
           Ministers
           ,
           which
           was
           to
           Preach
           freely
           and
           not
           for
           filthy
           
             lucre
             ,
             (
             Mat.
          
           10.
           1
           
             Pet.
          
           5.
           )
           Which
           they
           have
           not
           yet
           proved
           the
           false
           Apostles
           did
           ,
           as
           they
           have
           affirmed
           ,
           for
           they
           ran
           into
           covetousness
           ,
           and
           were
           deceitful
           workers
           ,
           having
           the
           forme
           of
           godliness
           ,
           but
           denying
           the
           Power
           ,
           2
           
             Tim.
          
           3.
           
           And
           in
           their
           affirming
           that
           the
           false
           Apostles
           Preached
           freely
           ,
           here
           they
           have
           set
           the
           false
           Apostles
           above
           themselves
           ;
           for
           neither
           
             I.
             H.
          
           nor
           
             Thomas
             Moor
          
           Senior
           have
           Preaching
           freely
           to
           boast
           of
           ,
           whilst
           they
           are
           setled
           in
           Parishes
           ,
           and
           taking
           Tyths
           and
           Gifts
           as
           the
           other
           Priests
           do
           ,
           whom
           they
           have
           called
           greedy
           dumb
           dogs
           ,
           strong
           to
           appetite
           ,
           &c.
           in
           their
           Pamphlet
           called
           
             a
             Brief
             Discovery
             ,
          
           &c.
           
        
         
           T.
           Moor's
           Principle
           Page
           2.
           
           
             That
             sin
             is
             in
             the
             believer
             as
             a
             natural
             heritage
             from
          
           Adam
           
             while
             he
             is
             in
             this
             mortal
             body
             ;
             and
             to
             prove
             it
             ,
             he
             brings
             ,
          
           Rom.
           7.
           17
           ,
           20.
           for
           I
           know
           that
           in
           me
           
             that
             is
             ,
             in
             my
             flesh
             dwelleth
             no
             good
             thing
             ;
             and
             that
             it
             was
             not
             he
             that
             did
             sin
             ,
             but
             sin
             in
             him
             ,
             and
             saith
             there
             's
             his
             natural
             heritage
             .
          
        
         
           To
           which
           I
           Answer
           ,
           Herein
           hath
           he
           wrested
           the
           Scripture
           ,
           for
           
             Paul
          
           did
           not
           say
           that
           sin
           was
           in
           him
           as
           a
           natural
           heritage
           from
           
             Adam
          
           while
           he
           was
           in
           the
           mortal
           body
           ,
           neither
           did
           he
           own
           it
           as
           his
           natural
           heritage
           ,
           for
           while
           it
           was
           in
           his
           flesh
           it
           was
           his
           burthen
           ,
           (
           after
           that
           he
           was
           turned
           to
           the
           Spirit
           )
           so
           he
           waited
           till
           it
           was
           done
           away
           ,
           that
           he
           could
           witness
           the
           Creature
           delivered
           from
           sin
           and
           become
           new
           in
           Christ
           Jesus
           ,
           who
           redeems
           out
           of
           the
           first
           
             Adams
          
           state
           and
           nature
           .
        
         
           And
           where
           we
           laid
           down
           this
           as
           
             T.
             Moors
          
           Principle
           ,
           
             that
             their
             nature
             is
             restored
             in
             Christ
             ,
             and
             that
             their
             nature
             is
             a
             filthy
             nature
             ,
             and
             Christ
             took
             upon
             him
             their
             nature
             ,
          
           this
           they
           say
           is
           falsely
           expressed
           and
           perverted
           ,
           and
           yet
           
             I.
             H.
          
           and
           
             T.
             M.
          
           a
           little
           after
           say
           thus
           ,
           viz.
           
             That
             our
             nature
             ,
             kind
             or
             being
             ,
             as
             in
             us
             ,
             not
             in
             Christ
             ,
             is
             corrupt
             and
             filthy
             in
             it self
             ,
             yet
             Christ
             took
             upon
             him
             our
             nature
             ,
             not
             as
             it
             is
             filthy
             in
             us
             by
             sin
             in
             it
             ,
          
           &c.
           
             and
             they
             say
             that
             we
             might
             as
             well
             have
             taxed
             the
             Apostle
             of
             confusion
             for
             saying
             men
             by
             nature
             do
             the
             things
             contained
             in
             the
             Law
             .
          
           
           Rom.
           2.
           14.
           
           
             And
             yet
             by
             nature
             are
             Children
             of
             wrath
             ,
          
           Ephes.
           2.
           3.
           
        
         
           To
           which
           I
           say
           ,
           we
           may
           justly
           tax
           these
           men
           with
           confusion
           indeed
           ,
           but
           not
           the
           Apostle
           ;
           for
           here
           they
           cannot
           discern
           between
           the
           sinful
           nature
           and
           the
           pure
           nature
           ;
           for
           the
           nature
           of
           Christ
           is
           pure
           ,
           so
           that
           it
           s
           not
           their
           nature
           ,
           for
           their
           nature
           is
           filthy
           ,
           and
           therefore
           it
           is
           not
           in
           Christ
           ,
           and
           their
           bringing
           that
           of
           
             Rom.
          
           2.
           14.
           and
           
             Ephes.
          
           2.
           3.
           together
           to
           prove
           their
           confusion
           ,
           sheweth
           ,
           that
           they
           cannot
           discern
           between
           that
           nature
           ,
           by
           which
           men
           do
           the
           things
           contained
           in
           the
           Law
           ,
           and
           that
           nature
           by
           which
           men
           break
           the
           Law
           ,
           and
           are
           Children
           of
           wrath
           ,
           but
           make
           as
           if
           it
           were
           all
           one
           :
           But
           be
           sure
           they
           are
           out
           of
           that
           nature
           by
           which
           some
           did
           the
           things
           contained
           in
           the
           Law
           since
           their
           nature
           is
           filthy
           ,
           and
           by
           it
           they
           cannot
           do
           these
           things
           contained
           in
           the
           Law
           but
           plead
           against
           that
           state
           ,
           and
           for
           sin
           to
           continue
           in
           them
           as
           their
           natural
           heritage
           while
           in
           the
           mortal
           body
           .
        
         
           Again
           J.
           H.
           and
           T.
           M.
           
             Say
             ,
             that
             the
             Apostle
             saith
             not
             ,
             that
             Christ
             in
             them
             is
             the
             mystery
             ,
             but
             the
             riches
             of
             this
             mystery
             is
             Christ
             in
             men
          
           
             *
          
           
             the
             hope
             of
             glory
             not
             the
             possession
             of
             glory
             ,
             which
             is
             not
             to
             be
             injoyed
             till
             his
             glorious
             appearing
             ,
             when
             these
             mediums
             now
             in
             use
             will
             cease
             .
          
        
         
           
             Answ.
          
           So
           herein
           would
           these
           deceivers
           put
           Christ
           the
           possession
           of
           glory
           a
           far
           off
           ,
           as
           a
           thing
           not
           to
           be
           injoyed
           by
           the
           Saints
           till
           after
           their
           decease
           ,
           till
           which
           time
           also
           we
           know
           they
           put
           Christs
           glorious
           appearing
           afar
           off
           :
           But
           then
           how
           was
           Christ
           all
           and
           in
           all
           his
           believers
           ,
           and
           how
           were
           they
           changed
           from
           glory
           to
           glory
           ,
           and
           had
           the
           heavenly
           treasure
           in
           earthen
           vessels
           ,
           2
           
             Cor.
          
           4.
           7.
           and
           3.
           18.
           if
           they
           did
           not
           possess
           his
           glory
           ,
           when
           the
           riches
           of
           the
           glory
           of
           this
           mystery
           was
           Christ
           in
           the
           Saints
           the
           hope
           of
           glory
           ?
           What
           was
           not
           these
           riches
           the
           possession
           in
           them
           too
           ?
           How
           grosly
           do
           these
           men
           wrong
           the
           Saints
           and
           their
           words
           in
           counting
           them
           not
           possessors
           of
           the
           glory
           before
           their
           decease
           ,
           when
           as
           the
           Saints
           even
           when
           they
           were
           in
           the
           pure
           hope
           ,
           then
           
             rejoyce
             they
             with
             joy
             unspeakable
             and
             full
             of
             glory
             ,
          
           1
           
             Pet.
          
           1.
           8.
           and
           again
           after
           these
           men
           aforesaid
           have
           so
           wronged
           the
           Saints
           in
           counting
           them
           not
           possessors
           of
           the
           glory
           while
           here
           ,
           they
           go
           about
           to
           prove
           their
           corrupt
           Principle
           ,
           
             viz.
             That
             sin
             is
             a
             natural
             heritage
             in
             believers
          
           
           
             so
             long
             as
             they
             are
             here
             ;
          
           so
           that
           by
           these
           mens
           account
           ,
           the
           Saints
           had
           not
           Christ
           in
           them
           as
           their
           possession
           ,
           but
           sin
           as
           their
           possession
           ,
           or
           natural
           heritage
           while
           they
           lived
           ,
           which
           no where
           the
           Scripture
           saith
           ;
           how
           sadly
           have
           they
           herein
           wronged
           the
           Saints
           ,
           and
           blasphemed
           against
           the
           Tabernacle
           of
           God
           ,
           which
           is
           with
           his
           people
           in
           whom
           he
           dwels
           .
        
         
           J.
           H.
           and
           T.
           M.
           
             Tell
             of
             an
             instrumental
             and
             outward
             Object
             ,
             or
             a
             medium
             of
             faith
             which
             they
             say
             ,
             is
             the
             holy
             Scriptures
             ,
             and
             then
             they
             say
             the
             last
             and
             most
             in
             most
             .
             and
             absolute
             Object
             is
             God
             in
             Christ
             ,
          
           1
           
             Tim.
          
           4.
           10.
           
           
             Rom.
          
           4.
           24.
           
           
             And
             so
             they
             say
             the
             Object
             of
             faith
             is
             one
             .
          
        
         
           
             I
             Answer
             ,
          
           If
           the
           Scriptures
           be
           the
           outward
           Object
           or
           medium
           of
           faith
           ,
           and
           God
           in
           Christ
           be
           the
           most
           inmost
           and
           absolute
           Object
           of
           faith
           ,
           then
           how
           is
           the
           Object
           of
           saith
           one
           ?
           What
           is
           the
           Scriptures
           without
           and
           God
           one
           ?
           Or
           are
           the
           Scriptures
           God
           ?
           Here
           's
           confusion
           indeed
           ,
           and
           where
           does
           the
           Scripture
           say
           it
           is
           the
           outward
           Object
           and
           medium
           of
           faith
           ?
           Here
           these
           men
           are
           come
           under
           that
           confusion
           they
           have
           charged
           us
           with
           (
           as
           according
           to
           their
           own
           account
           )
           for
           in
           Page
           59.
           they
           charg
           us
           with
           counfounding
           the
           Author
           with
           the
           medium
           ,
           which
           they
           call
           a
           piece
           of
           confusion
           ,
           when
           in
           Page
           6.
           they
           confess
           that
           Jesus
           Christ
           is
           both
           the
           Object
           of
           faith
           ,
           and
           living
           and
           enlivening
           medium
           by
           which
           any
           comes
           to
           God
           and
           believe
           in
           God
           ,
           
             Heb.
          
           7.
           25
           ,
           1
           
             Pet.
          
           1.
           21.
           so
           that
           in
           Page
           8.
           they
           say
           true
           in
           saying
           that
           we
           did
           wisely
           to
           say
           that
           their
           darkness
           and
           confusion
           may
           easily
           be
           seen
           ,
           for
           so
           it
           may
           ,
           who
           after
           in
           their
           false
           inference
           are
           telling
           of
           some
           
             being
             guilty
             of
             the
             imperfection
             of
             wit-lesness
             ,
             because
             they
             have
             in
             them
             their
             guts
             that
             be
             wit-less
             ,
             and
             thus
             the
             in
             lightness
             and
             folly
             appears
             .
          
        
         
           
             I.
             H.
          
           and
           
             T.
             M.
          
           accuse
           us
           that
           the
           true
           Christ
           we
           say
           p.
           10.
           we
           desire
           not
           the
           knowledge
           of
           ;
           In
           which
           they
           have
           shamefully
           belyed
           us
           ,
           for
           our
           words
           are
           these
           ,
           that
           you
           look
           for
           a
           Christ
           like
           your selves
           ,
           but
           that
           he
           hath
           no
           blood
           in
           his
           Body
           ,
           as
           you
           imagine
           whom
           we
           desire
           not
           the
           knowledge
           of
           ,
           for
           such
           a
           Christ
           they
           look
           for
           ,
           as
           they
           cannot
           prove
           the
           true
           Christ
           to
           be
           ,
           in
           their
           Affirming
           him
           to
           have
           a
           Body
           of
           Flesh
           and
           bones
           in
           the
           Heavens
           without
           blood
           in
           it
           ,
           as
           many
           have
           heard
           them
           Publikely
           .
           Affirm
           ,
           which
           now
           they
           would
           deceitfully
           deny
           that
           they
           so
           Affirmed
           and
           say
           .
           p.
           26.
           that
           they
           determined
           not
           that
           his
           
           Body
           is
           a
           Body
           of
           Flesh
           and
           bones
           ,
           in
           Heaven
           without
           blood
           ,
           and
           so
           they
           have
           Preached
           and
           published
           that
           which
           they
           determined
           not
           ,
           but
           were
           doubtful
           of
           ;
           what
           deceit
           and
           confusion
           is
           here
           ?
           And
           how
           do
           they
           leave
           men
           in
           uncertainties
           ;
           
             I.
             H.
          
           and
           
             T.
             M.
          
           p.
           11.
           say
           ;
           
             That
             a
             man
             may
             be
             a
             sinner
             by
             having
             sin
             in
             him
             ,
             and
             yet
             not
             sin
             ,
          
           and
           to
           prove
           it
           bring
           
             Rom.
          
           7.
           20.
           
           
             Paul
          
           did
           not
           the
           Evil
           ,
           
             &c.
             
          
           To
           which
           I
           say
           ,
           that
           their
           words
           are
           as
           much
           as
           if
           they
           had
           said
           ,
           that
           a
           sinner
           sins
           not
           ;
           What
           folly
           is
           this
           ?
           which
           that
           of
           
             Rom.
          
           7.
           20.
           proves
           not
           ,
           for
           though
           there
           was
           that
           in
           
             Paul
          
           which
           was
           of
           God
           that
           sinned
           not
           ,
           yet
           when
           he
           did
           the
           Evil
           which
           he
           would
           not
           ,
           then
           he
           sinned
           in
           doing
           it
           .
           Again
           these
           Diviners
           who
           are
           thus
           Confounded
           say
           ,
           
             he
             that
             doth
             Righteousness
             is
             Righteous
             ,
             as
             God
             is
             Righteous
             ,
             yea
             as
             Christ
             is
             Righteous
             ,
             not
             because
             there
             is
             no
             sin
             in
             him
             ,
             but
             because
             Christ
             is
             made
             to
             him
             of
             God
             his
             Righteousness
             ,
             and
             in
             him
             he
             is
             Righteous
             ,
             as
             Christ
             is
             Righteous
             .
          
        
         
           
             Answ.
          
           What
           then
           ,
           hath
           Christ
           sin
           in
           him
           if
           a
           man
           be
           Righteous
           as
           Christ
           is
           Righteous
           when
           he
           hath
           sin
           in
           him
           ?
           this
           their
           Assertion
           would
           charge
           both
           Christ
           and
           them
           that
           are
           in
           him
           ,
           to
           have
           sin
           in
           them
           ,
           which
           is
           Blasphemy
           against
           Christ
           ;
           For
           in
           him
           is
           no
           Sin
           ,
           and
           he
           is
           made
           manifest
           to
           destroy
           Sin
           .
        
         
           And
           to
           our
           Question
           ,
           which
           was
           ,
           what
           one
           Sin
           or
           Sinnes
           can
           they
           lay
           to
           
             Paul
          
           or
           
             Iames
          
           or
           
             Iohn's
          
           charge
           ,
           or
           to
           any
           of
           them
           ,
           that
           they
           were
           not
           perfectly
           freed
           from
           before
           their
           Decease
           ;
           Let
           them
           prove
           some
           sin
           which
           was
           not
           destroyed
           in
           any
           of
           those
           ,
           before
           their
           Decease
           ,
           or
           for
           ever
           be
           silent
           from
           pleading
           for
           sin
           ,
           or
           accusing
           the
           Righteous
           as
           they
           have
           done
           ;
           as
           also
           we
           asked
           them
           what
           sin
           can
           they
           prove
           that
           
             Nathaniel
          
           had
           in
           him
           ,
           when
           he
           had
           no
           guile
           in
           him
           ?
           To
           which
           
             I.
             Horn
             ,
          
           and
           
             T.
             Moore
          
           Reply
           page
           13.
           
           
             That
             it
             is
             enough
             that
             we
             believe
          
           Paul
           ,
           James
           
             and
          
           John
           
             that
             they
             had
             Sin
             ,
             and
             did
             in
             many
             things
             offend
             ,
             though
             we
             cannot
             name
             their
             Particular
             offences
             ,
             as
             it
             is
             to
             believe
             multitudes
             to
             have
             dyed
             ,
             though
             we
             know
             not
             of
             what
             Particular
             Diseases
             ,
          
           &c.
           
             and
             in
          
           page
           20.
           
           
             They
             tell
             us
             we
             may
             as
             well
             say
             ,
             seeing
             the
             Scripture
             Witnesses
             that
             the
             Children
             of
          
           Korah
           
             dyed
             ,
             not
             in
             the
             Iudgement
             that
             befell
          
           Korah
           
             and
             his
             Company
             ,
             what
             Disease
             they
             dyed
             of
             ,
             and
             if
             they
             cannot
             prove
             that
             they
             dyed
             of
             some
             Disease
             ,
             then
             they
             are
             Confuted
             if
             they
             believe
             and
             hold
             that
             they
             dyed
             ,
             they
             say
             .
          
        
         
         
           
             Answ.
          
           Here
           any
           Impartial
           Reader
           may
           see
           how
           these
           men
           are
           Confounded
           ,
           who
           have
           accused
           the
           Saints
           to
           have
           Sin
           in
           them
           ,
           and
           to
           offend
           in
           many
           things
           while
           they
           lived
           upon
           Earth
           ,
           and
           now
           cannot
           prove
           any
           one
           sin
           ,
           that
           they
           were
           not
           perfectly
           freed
           from
           before
           their
           Decease
           ,
           or
           which
           was
           not
           destroyed
           in
           them
           before
           their
           Decease
           ,
           so
           that
           here
           all
           may
           see
           how
           Ignorantly
           they
           have
           accused
           the
           Saints
           ,
           and
           how
           far
           short
           of
           proving
           their
           Assertion
           they
           are
           ,
           for
           any
           of
           the
           Saints
           confessing
           any
           of
           their
           present
           states
           or
           failings
           ,
           does
           not
           at
           all
           prove
           that
           they
           were
           offenders
           ,
           or
           had
           sin
           in
           them
           ,
           so
           long
           as
           they
           lived
           ,
           as
           these
           said
           accusers
           would
           have
           it
           :
           and
           as
           to
           their
           saying
           ,
           that
           multitudes
           have
           dyed
           though
           they
           know
           not
           of
           what
           Particular
           diseases
           ,
           and
           if
           they
           cannot
           prove
           that
           they
           dyed
           of
           some
           disease
           ,
           then
           they
           are
           confuted
           if
           they
           believe
           that
           they
           dyed
           ;
           to
           that
           I
           say
           ,
           thus
           ,
           their
           comparison
           will
           not
           hold
           but
           is
           foolish
           ,
           neither
           will
           it
           follow
           from
           what
           we
           propounded
           ,
           for
           it
           is
           evident
           that
           multitudes
           have
           dyed
           ,
           as
           it
           is
           appointed
           for
           men
           once
           to
           dye
           :
           But
           they
           have
           not
           so
           proved
           that
           all
           the
           Saints
           were
           Sinners
           ,
           or
           had
           sin
           in
           them
           ,
           so
           long
           as
           they
           lived
           according
           to
           their
           Assertion
           .
           And
           to
           their
           saying
           
             that
             David
             implies
             Sins
             in
             them
             though
             forgiven
             and
             covered
             in
             whose
             Spirit
             is
             no
             guile
             ,
             Psa.
          
           32.
           1
           ,
           2.
           here
           they
           have
           added
           their
           own
           words
           unto
           
             Davids
             ,
          
           for
           he
           spake
           of
           such
           unto
           whom
           the
           Lord
           imputeth
           not
           Iniquity
           ,
           whose
           sin
           is
           covered
           and
           in
           whose
           Spirit
           is
           no
           guile
           ,
           nor
           can
           any
           say
           that
           their
           sin
           is
           thus
           covered
           when
           they
           sin
           ,
           or
           that
           it
           shall
           not
           be
           imputed
           to
           them
           while
           they
           are
           guilty
           of
           it
           ,
           for
           does
           not
           the
           Light
           of
           Christ
           discover
           in
           man
           his
           sin
           and
           reprove
           him
           for
           it
           ,
           when
           he
           is
           guilty
           of
           it
           ?
           They
           that
           know
           it
           can
           tell
           though
           it
           s
           hid
           from
           these
           said
           accusers
           .
        
         
           Again
           
             I.
             H.
          
           and
           
             T.
             M.
          
           say
           
             David
             saith
             no
             man
             living
             is
             so
             free
             from
             sin
             as
             to
             be
             justified
             ,
             if
             God
             enter
             into
             Iudgment
             with
             them
             ,
             and
             to
             prove
             it
             bring
             ,
          
           Psa.
           143.
           2.
           
        
         
           
             Answ.
          
           This
           is
           a
           lye
           against
           
             David
             ,
          
           for
           these
           are
           not
           his
           words
           ,
           he
           said
           not
           that
           no
           man
           living
           is
           so
           free
           from
           sin
           as
           to
           be
           justified
           ,
           
             &c.
             
          
           For
           when
           the
           enemy
           had
           persecuted
           
             Davids
          
           Soul
           ,
           and
           had
           Smitten
           his
           Life
           down
           to
           the
           Ground
           ,
           he
           said
           enter
           not
           into
           Judgment
           with
           thy
           Servant
           O
           Lord
           ,
           for
           in
           thy
           sight
           shall
           no
           man
           living
           be
           Justified
           :
           Which
           relates
           to
           that
           state
           wherein
           the
           Enemy
           hath
           Power
           ,
           that
           the
           life
           is
           Smitten
           down
           to
           the
           Ground
           ,
           and
           man
           cannot
           be
           Justified
           ,
           but
           thorow
           the
           death
           to
           that
           
           which
           Judgment
           is
           to
           :
           So
           this
           Scripture
           they
           have
           brought
           proves
           no
           more
           that
           the
           Saints
           are
           not
           freed
           from
           sin
           in
           this
           life
           ,
           then
           it
           does
           that
           they
           are
           not
           Justified
           in
           Gods
           sight
           ,
           while
           in
           this
           life
           ,
           when
           as
           the
           Saints
           were
           Justified
           from
           that
           which
           the
           Judgments
           of
           God
           was
           to
           ,
           and
           such
           could
           say
           its
           not
           I
           that
           live
           but
           Christ
           in
           me
           .
        
         
           To
           our
           saying
           touching
           Christs
           Body
           that
           the
           Body
           is
           one
           ,
           and
           hath
           many
           Members
           ,
           1
           
             Cor.
          
           12.
           12.
           
           
             I.
             H.
          
           and
           
             T.
             M.
             answer
             that
             's
             said
             both
             of
             a
             Personal
             and
             Mistical
             body
             or
             Society
             in
             different
             sences
             ,
             and
             then
             they
             say
             true
             ;
             also
             that
             the
             body
             of
             Christ
             either
             Personal
             or
             Mistical
             is
             not
             Carnal
             but
             Spiritual
             .
          
        
         
           
             REP.
          
           Here
           they
           darken
           the
           minds
           of
           the
           simple
           by
           words
           which
           they
           have
           no
           Scripture
           for
           ,
           for
           the
           Scripture
           no where
           speaks
           of
           Christ
           having
           a
           Personall
           body
           ,
           and
           a
           Mistical
           body
           ,
           and
           yet
           both
           Spiritual
           .
           For
           if
           he
           hath
           two
           Spiritual
           bodies
           ,
           wherefore
           do
           they
           say
           the
           one
           is
           Personal
           ,
           and
           the
           other
           Mistical
           ,
           as
           if
           then
           both
           were
           not
           Mistical
           ;
           and
           whence
           came
           that
           distinction
           in
           these
           words
           from
           the
           
             Papists
             ?
          
           What
           is
           not
           that
           which
           is
           Spiritual
           Mistical
           ?
           (
           according
           to
           their
           own
           words
           )
           but
           
             Paul
          
           saith
           as
           the
           body
           is
           one
           and
           hath
           many
           Members
           ,
           so
           also
           is
           Christ
           ,
           and
           now
           are
           they
           many
           Members
           yet
           but
           one
           body
           ,
           1
           
             Cor.
          
           12.
           12
           ,
           20.
           and
           there
           is
           one
           body
           and
           one
           Spirit
           ,
           
             Ephes.
          
           4.
           4.
           but
           
             I.
             Horn
             ,
          
           in
           a
           Paper
           to
           me
           saith
           ,
           that
           Jesus
           hath
           a
           humane
           Body
           and
           Soul
           
             *
          
           (
           &
           where
           does
           the
           Scripture
           say
           that
           Christs
           Soul
           is
           humane
           ?
           For
           his
           Soul
           is
           divine
           and
           immortal
           )
           &
           mens
           natural
           or
           earthly
           bodies
           are
           humane
           ,
           and
           the
           Apostle
           distinguisheth
           between
           them
           and
           the
           Spiritual
           bodies
           ,
           1
           
             Cor.
          
           15.
           40
           ,
           44.
           so
           that
           Christ
           hath
           a
           glorious
           Spiritual
           body
           in
           Heaven
           which
           few
           can
           discern
           ,
           distinct
           from
           mens
           terestrial
           or
           natural
           bodies
           ,
           wch
           are
           humane
           ;
           now
           if
           Christ
           hath
           a
           natural
           or
           humane
           body
           ,
           &
           a
           Spiritual
           body
           ,
           &
           his
           Church
           too
           ,
           which
           is
           his
           body
           ,
           which
           they
           call
           his
           Mistical
           body
           ,
           may
           they
           not
           as
           well
           say
           he
           hath
           three
           bodies
           ?
           And
           then
           why
           not
           as
           well
           four
           or
           five
           bodies
           ?
           But
           their
           Ignorance
           about
           the
           natural
           and
           the
           Spiritual
           bodies
           is
           so
           plainly
           discovered
           in
           our
           Book
           intituled
           
             a
             Brisf
             Discovery
             of
             the
             Dangerous
             Principles
             ,
          
           &c.
           in
           which
           the
           Truth
           is
           so
           clearly
        
         
      
    
     
       
         Notes, typically marginal, from the original text
         
           Notes for div A65892e-200
           
             *
             which
             is
             as
             much
             as
             to
             say
             ,
             not
             Christ
             in
             them
             ,
             but
             Christ
             in
             men
             ;
             and
             that
             his
             riches
             is
             not
             the
             possession
             ,
             what
             folly
             is
             this
             ?
          
           
             *
             That
             which
             is
             humane
             is
             earth'y
             ,
             as
             humanus
             &
             homo
             are
             of
             humus
             the
             ground
             from
             whence
             man
             was
             taken
             ;
             so
             that
             a
             humane
             Soul
             is
             an
             earthly
             Soul
             ,
             what
             then
             hath
             Christ
             both
             an
             earthly
             Soul
             and
             a
             divine
             Soul
             in
             him
             ?