A brief treatise on the truths behalf in discovery of falshoods which are dispersed abroad in two papers of Richard Baxters ... the one intituled One sheet for the ministry, the other A second sheet for the ministry, and he hath pretended the one against malignants among whom he hath numbred them called Quakers and uttered forth his envy in several lies and revilings against that people called Quakers, whose known integrity shall stand a witness against all such deceivers and revilers as he is proved to be perpetually ... / by George Whitehead.
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             A brief treatise on the truths behalf in discovery of falshoods which are dispersed abroad in two papers of Richard Baxters ... the one intituled One sheet for the ministry, the other A second sheet for the ministry, and he hath pretended the one against malignants among whom he hath numbred them called Quakers and uttered forth his envy in several lies and revilings against that people called Quakers, whose known integrity shall stand a witness against all such deceivers and revilers as he is proved to be perpetually ... / by George Whitehead.
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           A
           BRIEF
           TREATISE
           ,
           ON
           The
           Truths
           behalf
           in
           discovery
           of
           Falshoods
           which
           are
           dispersed
           abroad
           in
           two
           papers
           of
           
             Richard
             Baxters
          
           who
           is
           greatly
           esteemed
           of
           as
           an
           able
           Minister
           at
           
             Kedarminster
          
           in
           
             Worcester
             shire
             ,
          
           but
           his
           ignorance
           and
           deceit
           is
           here
           made
           appear
           in
           his
           two
           papers
           ,
           the
           one
           intituled
           ,
           
             One
             sheet
             for
             the
             Ministry
             ,
          
           the
           other
           
             A
             second
             sheet
             for
             the
             Ministry
             .
          
        
         
           And
           he
           hath
           pretended
           the
           one
           against
           Malignants
           ,
           among
           whom
           he
           hath
           numbred
           them
           called
           Quakers
           ,
           and
           uttered
           forth
           his
           envy
           in
           several
           lies
           and
           revilings
           against
           that
           people
           called
           Quakers
           ,
           whose
           known
           integrity
           shall
           stand
           a
           witness
           against
           all
           such
           deceivers
           and
           revilers
           as
           he
           is
           proved
           to
           be
           perpetually
           .
        
         
           1.
           
           Here
           are
           several
           of
           this
           said
           
             R.
             Baxters
          
           lies
           made
           manifest
           and
           void
           .
        
         
           2.
           
           Here
           is
           something
           concerning
           Ministers
           maintenance
           ,
           and
           tithes
           ,
           which
           this
           Priest
           
             Baxter
          
           goes
           about
           to
           prove
           that
           tithes
           are
           both
           of
           Civil
           and
           Divine
           Institution
           .
        
         
           3.
           
           Concerning
           the
           Priests
           call
           to
           their
           Ministry
           ,
           and
           how
           it
           differs
           from
           the
           true
           call
           ,
           with
           several
           other
           things
           of
           concernment
           that
           here
           both
           Magistrates
           and
           people
           may
           come
           to
           see
           the
           blindnesse
           of
           the
           deceivers
           in
           this
           Nation
           .
        
         
           This
           is
           given
           forth
           onely
           for
           the
           truth
           sake
           and
           for
           their
           sakes
           who
           love
           it
           ,
           by
           their
           friend
           ,
           
             George
             Whitehead
             .
          
        
         
           
             LONDON
             ,
          
           Printed
           for
           
             Thomas
             Simmons
          
           at
           the
           
             Bull
          
           and
           
             Mouth
          
           near
           
             Aldersgate
             ,
          
           1658.
           
        
      
    
     
       
       
       
         
           IT
           was
           the
           enmity
           and
           hatred
           of
           the
           old
           serpent
           in
           the
           false
           priests
           and
           false
           prophets
           of
           old
           ,
           when
           the
           power
           of
           truth
           did
           appear
           ,
           to
           hate
           ,
           persecute
           and
           falsely
           to
           accuse
           the
           Righteous
           seed
           of
           God
           ,
           whom
           he
           had
           wrought
           deliverance
           for
           out
           of
           captivity
           and
           bondage
           ,
           by
           his
           mighty
           power
           ,
           and
           whom
           he
           had
           stirred
           up
           thereby
           to
           witness
           for
           himself
           ,
           against
           deceit
           and
           deceivers
           both
           among
           
             Jewes
          
           or
           Gentiles
           ,
           so
           that
           the
           enmity
           of
           the
           righteous
           seeds
           adversaries
           was
           so
           great
           ,
           and
           their
           rage
           so
           stirred
           against
           the
           true
           witnesses
           ,
           that
           such
           as
           witnessed
           forth
           the
           truth
           ,
           and
           such
           as
           loved
           the
           truth
           was
           not
           onely
           persecuted
           and
           hated
           by
           deceivers
           ,
           but
           also
           numbred
           among
           the
           seed
           of
           evil
           doers
           ,
           and
           reviled
           by
           the
           wicked
           ,
           that
           so
           one
           strengthened
           the
           hands
           of
           another
           in
           wickedness
           ,
           who
           said
           report
           and
           we
           will
           report
           ,
           and
           because
           of
           Lying
           ,
           and
           swearing
           and
           drunkeness
           ,
           the
           land
           mourneth
           and
           the
           false
           Prophets
           strengthened
           the
           hands
           of
           evil
           doers
           ,
           and
           by
           their
           lies
           and
           lightness
           made
           people
           light
           and
           vain
           ,
           and
           they
           put
           no
           difference
           between
           the
           pretious
           and
           vile
           ,
           and
           even
           ,
           so
           it
           is
           evidently
           seen
           by
           the
           Priests
           of
           
             England
             ,
          
           who
           make
           it
           their
           daily
           practice
           to
           rail
           ,
           falsely
           accuse
           ,
           slander
           and
           back-bite
           the
           innocent
           people
           of
           God
           called
           
             Quakers
             ,
          
           insomuch
           that
           the
           hands
           of
           the
           rude
           persecutors
           are
           daily
           strengthened
           by
           them
           ,
           and
           in
           stead
           of
           seeking
           the
           preservation
           of
           the
           Lambs
           of
           Christs
           they
           cast
           dirt
           on
           them
           ,
           and
           these
           shepherds
           that
           feeds
           themselves
           and
           not
           the
           flock
           by
           their
           lies
           and
           dirty
           stuff
           which
           they
           disperse
           abroad
           ,
           sets
           the
           dogs
           on
           the
           Lambs
           of
           Christ
           to
           worry
           them
           ,
           so
           they
           are
           far
           unfit
           to
           be
           sheapherds
           or
           Ministers
           of
           Christ
           ,
           but
           devourers
           ,
           one
           of
           whom
           this
           priest
           
             Baxter
          
           is
           plainly
           proved
           ,
           who
           hath
           numbred
           them
           called
           
             Quakers
          
           among
           the
           malignants
           ,
           drunkards
           ,
           whoremongers
           ,
           covetous
           ,
           and
           all
           ungodly
           persons
           ,
           and
           compared
           them
           with
           the
           Papists
           ,
           and
           sayes
           ,
           
             that
             these
             wicked
             wretches
             despise
             and
             revile
             the
             Ministers
          
           (
           in
           his
           one
           sheet
           for
           
           the
           Ministry
           ,
           (
           
             page
             .
          
           5.
           )
           therefore
           ,
           now
           I
           proceed
           to
           lay
           open
           his
           words
           and
           lies
           given
           forth
           out
           of
           envy
           against
           the
           Innocent
           ,
           that
           this
           Priest
           may
           be
           manifest
           to
           be
           a
           deceitful
           Tradsman
           ,
           and
           not
           worthy
           to
           be
           suffered
           to
           sell
           any
           more
           of
           his
           deceitful
           ware
           ,
           he
           hath
           confessed
           as
           much
           as
           that
           which
           they
           (
           to
           wit
           the
           Priests
           )
           are
           brought
           up
           to
           is
           a
           trade
           ,
           as
           in
           page
           6.
           
        
         
           
             Ans.
          
           But
           to
           his
           lie
           and
           false
           accusation
           ,
           I
           answer
           ,
           that
           malignants
           are
           such
           as
           are
           in
           envie
           ,
           and
           hatred
           ,
           who
           are
           given
           over
           to
           a
           reprobate
           mind
           ,
           and
           such
           as
           are
           filled
           with
           malignity
           ,
           commit
           sin
           with
           greediness
           ,
           
             Rom.
          
           1.
           28
           ,
           29.
           and
           for
           Papists
           and
           such
           ,
           we
           are
           truly
           witnesses
           against
           them
           and
           against
           both
           root
           and
           branch
           of
           them
           ,
           and
           if
           the
           Priests
           of
           
             England
          
           could
           as
           well
           shew
           an
           evident
           example
           for
           their
           cleerness
           from
           popery
           ,
           as
           we
           can
           for
           ours
           who
           are
           called
           
             Quakers
             ,
          
           there
           should
           not
           be
           that
           vast
           difference
           betwixt
           us
           that
           there
           is
           ;
           for
           then
           we
           should
           not
           have
           the
           Priests
           to
           cry
           against
           ,
           for
           upholding
           many
           of
           their
           own
           traditions
           ,
           and
           superfluities
           ,
           and
           ceremonies
           ,
           which
           in
           their
           worship
           they
           uphold
           ,
           which
           in
           matter
           and
           form
           the
           Papists
           uphold
           ,
           though
           in
           the
           esteeming
           of
           their
           traditions
           or
           in
           the
           conceit
           of
           them
           there
           may
           be
           some
           difference
           ,
           but
           in
           the
           substance
           they
           do
           agree
           as
           in
           their
           sprinkling
           infants
           and
           using
           bread
           and
           wine
           ,
           and
           calling
           it
           a
           sacrament
           ,
           and
           in
           their
           owning
           the
           idols
           temples
           or
           Papists
           masse-houses
           ,
           and
           the
           Priests
           in
           covetousness
           ,
           and
           receiving
           Tithes
           (
           that
           great
           oppression
           )
           but
           something
           to
           that
           I
           shall
           speak
           hereafter
           :
           And
           for
           drunkards
           in
           this
           Nation
           ,
           the
           greatest
           part
           whereof
           are
           of
           the
           Priests
           ,
           hearers
           or
           owners
           of
           them
           who
           speaks
           well
           of
           the
           Priests
           ,
           and
           will
           be
           the
           readiest
           to
           fight
           for
           the
           Priests
           ,
           and
           to
           hail
           the
           children
           of
           the
           Lord
           out
           of
           their
           Assemblies
           ,
           if
           any
           of
           them
           be
           moved
           to
           speak
           to
           them
           in
           their
           Idols
           Temple
           ,
           so
           we
           are
           far
           from
           having
           fellowship
           with
           them
           .
           And
           for
           his
           accusing
           us
           for
           envying
           the
           Ministry
           ;
           the
           true
           Ministry
           we
           own
           and
           love
           ,
           and
           God
           knowes
           our
           hearts
           we
           envie
           not
           them
           at
           all
           ,
           neither
           hate
           we
           any
           mans
           person
           ,
           though
           falsely
           here
           he
           hath
           numbred
           us
           among
           the
           wicked
           ,
           so
           if
           he
           can
           let
           him
           clear
           himself
           from
           popery
           ,
           for
           there
           are
           many
           things
           pertaining
           to
           Popery
           that
           we
           could
           justly
           charge
           these
           Trads-men
           ,
           the
           covetouss
           Priests
           of
           
             England
             ,
          
           with
           .
        
         
         
           
             This
             said
             Priest
             ,
          
           Baxter
           ,
           
             saith
             in
             page
             the
             sixth
             .
          
           These
           enemies
           reproach
           as
           faithful
           a
           Ministry
           ,
           as
           the
           world
           enjoyeth
           ,
           the
           most
           of
           the
           protestant
           Churches
           have
           a
           Learned
           ministry
           ,
           that
           is
           so
           taken
           up
           with
           controversies
           ,
           that
           they
           are
           much
           less
           in
           the
           powerful
           preaching
           and
           practise
           of
           Godliness
           .
        
         
           
             Answ.
          
           Indeed
           that
           Ministry
           which
           the
           World
           enjoyeth
           ,
           are
           but
           little
           in
           powerful
           preaching
           ,
           for
           the
           Ministry
           which
           the
           world
           enjoyed
           was
           false
           Prophets
           and
           Anti-christs
           ,
           and
           they
           are
           of
           the
           world
           ,
           and
           the
           world
           heareth
           them
           ,
           (
           1
           
             John
             .
          
           4
           ,
           5.
           )
           and
           though
           the
           truth
           may
           be
           preached
           to
           the
           world
           by
           such
           as
           are
           in
           the
           truth
           ,
           yet
           the
           world
           is
           not
           in
           the
           enjoyment
           of
           it
           ,
           for
           the
           world
           loveth
           its
           own
           (
           Antichrists
           and
           false
           Prophets
           )
           who
           are
           less
           in
           Godliness
           indeed
           ,
           for
           they
           are
           nothing
           like
           God
           ,
           for
           they
           that
           were
           deceivers
           were
           ungodly
           men
           ,
           
             Jude
          
           4.
           2
           
           
             Peter
          
           2.
           14.
           so
           that
           if
           this
           priest
           and
           the
           rest
           did
           but
           consider
           what
           a
           ministry
           the
           world
           enjoyeth
           among
           them
           ,
           they
           have
           little
           cause
           to
           boast
           of
           themselves
           ,
           or
           their
           Ministry
           .
        
         
           
             Priest
             ,
          
           It
           is
           for
           your
           sakes
           and
           souls
           that
           they
           study
           ,
           and
           pray
           ,
           and
           fast
           ,
           and
           watch
           ,
           and
           exhort
           and
           labour
           to
           the
           consuming
           of
           their
           strength
           ;
           (
           
             and
             this
             he
             speaks
             to
             them
             he
             calls
             malignants
             )
             on
             his
             own
             and
             the
             priests
             behalf
             in
          
           page
           6.
           
             and
             in
          
           page
           
             the
             8th
             .
             he
             saith
             of
             the
             same
             people
             he
             speaks
             against
             ,
          
           nay
           such
           are
           noted
           for
           the
           highest
           sort
           of
           the
           wicked
           upon
           the
           earth
           ,
           worse
           then
           drunkards
           ,
           whoremongers
           and
           such
           filthy
           beasts
           ,
           the
           persecutors
           of
           Gods
           Ministers
           ,
           have
           been
           ever
           taken
           as
           walking
           Devils
           .
        
         
           
             Answ.
          
           This
           is
           such
           a
           Ministery
           as
           the
           world
           enjoyeth
           indeed
           ,
           and
           altogether
           out
           of
           the
           faith
           (
           so
           unfaithful
           )
           where
           the
           teachers
           prayes
           and
           fasts
           ,
           for
           such
           as
           this
           priest
           confesseth
           to
           be
           the
           highest
           sort
           of
           the
           wicked
           ,
           and
           as
           walking
           devils
           ,
           surely
           they
           spend
           their
           strength
           in
           vain
           ,
           that
           prays
           for
           such
           as
           they
           count
           as
           Devils
           ,
           and
           the
           worst
           or
           highest
           sort
           of
           the
           wicked
           ;
           and
           how
           can
           his
           or
           their
           praying
           be
           said
           to
           be
           in
           the
           faith
           ,
           for
           such
           as
           he
           doth
           thus
           judge
           ,
           and
           yet
           he
           confesseth
           that
           there
           is
           a
           little
           help
           and
           hope
           left
           for
           their
           miserable
           souls
           ;
           see
           his
           blindness
           and
           confusion
           ,
           have
           malignants
           help
           and
           hope
           ?
           for
           if
           they
           have
           hope
           ,
           then
           have
           walking
           devils
           hope
           according
           to
           this
           mans
           account
           ,
           and
           then
           have
           the
           reprobates
           hope
           ,
           but
           it
           is
           manifest
           that
           there
           are
           some
           that
           are
           given
           over
           
           to
           a
           reprobate
           mind
           ,
           and
           some
           are
           without
           hope
           ,
           and
           some
           have
           neglected
           their
           visitation
           ,
           and
           such
           are
           malignants
           ,
           for
           whom
           we
           do
           not
           spend
           our
           strength
           ,
           neither
           do
           we
           pray
           for
           walking
           devils
           ,
           but
           ▪
           for
           them
           whom
           God
           hath
           chosen
           and
           will
           chuse
           out
           of
           the
           world
           ,
           neither
           did
           the
           Apostles
           pray
           for
           filthy
           beasts
           ,
           but
           for
           men
           .
        
         
           
             Priest
             .
          
           I
           profess
           were
           it
           not
           for
           the
           belief
           of
           the
           greatness
           and
           necessity
           and
           excellency
           of
           the
           truths
           that
           I
           am
           to
           preach
           ,
           and
           for
           the
           will
           of
           God
           ,
           and
           the
           good
           of
           souls
           ,
           I
           would
           be
           a
           plow-man
           ,
           or
           the
           meanest
           trade
           if
           not
           a
           sweep-chimny
           rather
           then
           a
           Minister
           .
        
         
           
             Answ.
          
           As
           for
           the
           sake
           of
           the
           belief
           or
           greatness
           of
           truth
           :
           he
           himself
           is
           proved
           both
           to
           labour
           out
           of
           the
           true
           belief
           &
           to
           be
           out
           of
           the
           truth
           ,
           whose
           labor
           hath
           so
           little
           effect
           as
           it
           hath
           ,
           seeing
           he
           labours
           for
           such
           as
           he
           compareth
           to
           walking
           devils
           ,
           and
           complains
           of
           the
           drunkards
           ,
           whoremongers
           ,
           covetous
           and
           ungodly
           persons
           in
           their
           parishes
           ,
           and
           yet
           he
           is
           a
           Minister
           among
           such
           ;
           truly
           he
           might
           see
           that
           he
           Labours
           but
           for
           very
           vanity
           if
           he
           were
           not
           blind
           ,
           so
           that
           a
           plowman
           or
           a
           sweep-chimny
           are
           more
           lawful
           then
           this
           mans
           trade
           who
           makes
           a
           trade
           upon
           the
           scriptures
           ;
           and
           its
           better
           to
           be
           plowman
           or
           sweep
           chimnies
           then
           an
           unprofitable
           Teacher
           .
        
         
           
             Priest
             ,
          
           And
           he
           that
           is
           the
           accuser
           of
           the
           brethren
           which
           accuseth
           them
           before
           God
           day
           and
           night
           ,
           and
           is
           not
           this
           the
           works
           of
           the
           Quakers
           ?
        
         
           
             Answ.
          
           No
           ,
           for
           the
           saints
           were
           not
           in
           the
           false
           accusers
           work
           when
           they
           cryed
           against
           such
           teachers
           as
           were
           in
           the
           covetous
           practises
           ,
           and
           called
           them
           cursed
           Children
           ,
           neither
           are
           we
           accusers
           of
           the
           brethren
           when
           we
           witness
           against
           such
           Ministers
           now
           as
           are
           in
           the
           covetous
           practises
           ,
           but
           do
           suffer
           by
           the
           false
           accuser
           ,
           many
           of
           whose
           false
           accusations
           are
           extant
           in
           Priest
           
             Baxters
          
           lying
           papers
           against
           us
           called
           
             Quakers
             .
          
        
         
           
             Priest
             in
             page
             ten
             ,
          
           And
           what
           else
           do
           Quakers
           and
           all
           these
           sects
           that
           are
           the
           enemies
           of
           the
           Minictry
           ,
           do
           they
           not
           go
           up
           and
           down
           the
           land
           ,
           and
           say
           to
           the
           wisest
           holiest
           teachers
           ,
           as
           if
           they
           took
           them
           by
           the
           sleeve
           ,
           come
           down
           and
           let
           me
           preach
           ,
           that
           can
           do
           it
           better
           ,
           come
           down
           thou
           deceiver
           and
           ignorant
           man
           ,
           and
           let
           me
           come
           up
           that
           am
           wiser
           and
           better
           .
        
         
         
           
             Answ.
          
           I
           question
           not
           but
           that
           there
           are
           many
           in
           this
           natition
           that
           can
           witness
           against
           this
           Priest
           for
           a
           false
           accuser
           in
           these
           words
           ,
           for
           we
           do
           not
           use
           these
           words
           ,
           he
           layes
           to
           our
           charge
           ,
           as
           to
           say
           we
           are
           wiser
           and
           better
           ,
           and
           let
           me
           come
           up
           ,
           here
           he
           accuseth
           us
           as
           if
           we
           had
           as
           mind
           to
           come
           up
           into
           their
           pulpits
           ,
           but
           such
           high
           places
           or
           chiefest
           seats
           ,
           we
           desire
           not
           at
           all
           ,
           but
           rather
           leave
           them
           for
           the
           hireling
           priests
           that
           they
           may
           appear
           like
           Pharisees
           who
           had
           the
           chiefest
           places
           in
           the
           assemblies
           ,
           whom
           Christ
           cryed
           wo
           against
           ,
           and
           it
           is
           against
           the
           Priests
           ,
           the
           deceivers
           that
           are
           in
           the
           Pharisees
           steps
           that
           we
           cry
           and
           not
           against
           the
           true
           Ministers
           ;
           but
           we
           know
           that
           the
           seed
           is
           come
           that
           tramples
           upon
           the
           high
           places
           of
           the
           earth
           ,
           and
           upon
           these
           places
           wherein
           Idolatry
           is
           upheld
           .
        
         
           In
           the
           11
           page
           ,
           Priest
           
             Baxter
          
           takes
           the
           labor
           of
           most
           tradesmen
           in
           the
           Town
           ,
           to
           be
           a
           pleasure
           to
           the
           body
           in
           comparison
           of
           his
           (
           and
           saith
           )
           
             they
             work
             in
             ease
             ,
             and
             I
             in
             continual
             pain
             .
          
        
         
           
             Ans.
          
           Here
           let
           such
           as
           labour
           daily
           with
           their
           hands
           ,
           consider
           whether
           this
           man
           hath
           spoken
           the
           truth
           or
           no
           ,
           and
           whether
           compacting
           a
           sermon
           together
           in
           a
           week
           in
           his
           study
           or
           elsewhere
           ,
           and
           much
           of
           it
           made
           ready
           to
           his
           or
           their
           hands
           ,
           and
           declaring
           it
           over
           one
           day
           ,
           it
           may
           be
           sometimes
           in
           two
           dayes
           in
           the
           week
           ,
           and
           it
           may
           be
           speak
           by
           an
           hour-glass
           as
           many
           of
           the
           Priests
           in
           
             England
          
           do
           ,
           whether
           this
           be
           not
           easier
           to
           the
           body
           ,
           then
           daily
           hand
           labours
           from
           mornings
           till
           evenings
           ?
           and
           he
           that
           saith
           he
           is
           in
           continual
           pain
           ,
           it
           appears
           then
           ,
           that
           his
           trade
           is
           a
           bondage
           to
           him
           ;
           but
           if
           he
           were
           a
           Minister
           of
           the
           Gospel
           ,
           he
           would
           not
           be
           in
           continual
           pain
           in
           Ministring
           that
           ,
           neither
           would
           he
           murmure
           or
           complain
           as
           he
           doth
           ,
           and
           as
           the
           filthy
           dreamers
           did
           ,
           
             Jude
          
           16.
           for
           the
           commands
           of
           Christ
           was
           joyous
           to
           his
           ,
           and
           the
           way
           thereof
           they
           ran
           with
           great
           delight
           and
           had
           joy
           and
           peace
           and
           consolation
           in
           the
           Lord
           which
           they
           received
           through
           obedience
           to
           his
           commands
           ,
           and
           were
           not
           in
           continual
           pain
           ,
           as
           this
           priest
           confesseth
           he
           is
           ,
           and
           indeed
           such
           as
           he
           is
           are
           like
           to
           be
           in
           pain
           they
           being
           in
           their
           steps
           who
           ran
           ,
           and
           the
           Lord
           never
           sent
           them
           ,
           and
           the
           Lord
           is
           against
           them
           ,
           how
           can
           they
           but
           be
           in
           pain
           ,
           for
           the
           wicked
           men
           have
           no
           peace
           with
           God
           ,
           and
           surely
           this
           labour
           and
           travail
           and
           trade
           of
           theirs
           is
           deep
           in
           
           the
           curse
           if
           they
           be
           in
           continual
           pain
           .
        
         
           
             Priest
             .
          
           As
           wisely
           do
           the
           Quakers
           argue
           ,
           that
           because
           we
           use
           spectacles
           or
           hour-glasses
           and
           pulpets
           ,
           we
           have
           not
           the
           spirit
           ;
           it
           is
           not
           want
           of
           your
           abilities
           that
           makes
           ministers
           use
           notes
           ,
           I
           use
           notes
           as
           much
           as
           any
           man
           ,
           when
           I
           take
           pains
           ,
           and
           as
           little
           as
           any
           man
           when
           I
           am
           Lazy
           .
        
         
           
             Answ.
          
           Here
           hee
           goes
           about
           to
           plead
           for
           the
           Priests
           using
           hour
           glasses
           ,
           pulpets
           and
           notes
           for
           teaching
           by
           ,
           but
           he
           cannot
           prove
           that
           the
           Ministers
           of
           Christ
           used
           these
           things
           as
           the
           blinde
           guides
           in
           
             England
          
           do
           ;
           and
           as
           for
           pulpets
           ,
           such
           was
           in
           
             Ezra's
          
           time
           ,
           in
           the
           time
           when
           the
           Law
           was
           read
           ;
           and
           the
           Pharisees
           had
           the
           chiefest
           places
           in
           the
           Assemblies
           ,
           who
           professed
           
             Moses
          
           but
           denied
           Christ
           ,
           and
           he
           witnessed
           against
           them
           ,
           
             Mat.
          
           23.
           and
           it
           is
           manifest
           that
           these
           that
           limit
           a
           time
           to
           teach
           in
           by
           an
           hour-glasse
           ,
           are
           not
           led
           by
           the
           spirit
           of
           truth
           ;
           for
           the
           saints
           did
           not
           preach
           by
           hour-glasses
           ,
           for
           they
           spake
           when
           ,
           and
           so
           long
           as
           they
           were
           moved
           by
           the
           spirit
           ,
           neither
           did
           they
           use
           notes
           for
           Sermons
           as
           the
           priests
           do
           ,
           but
           spake
           in
           the
           power
           and
           demonstration
           of
           the
           spirit
           :
           And
           here
           he
           confesseth
           himself
           to
           be
           sometimes
           Lazy
           ,
           and
           before
           said
           be
           had
           scarse
           time
           to
           eat
           and
           drink
           .
           
             R.
             Baxter
             ,
          
           see
           thy
           confusion
           ,
           What
           ,
           art
           thou
           in
           continual
           pain
           and
           yet
           lazy
           ?
           and
           yet
           hast
           thou
           scarse
           time
           to
           eat
           and
           drink
           ,
           thou
           may
           have
           time
           for
           both
           if
           thou
           preach
           by
           an
           hour-glasse
           ;
           for
           shame
           give
           over
           thy
           trade
           if
           it
           be
           so
           tedious
           to
           thee
           ,
           and
           yet
           thou
           art
           Lazy
           :
        
         
           
             Now
             concerning
             Tithes
             and
             Ministers
             maintenance
             ,
             and
             some
             other
             things
             of
             concernment
             .
          
           
             
               And
               where
               this
               said
               Priest
               would
               clear
               himself
               of
               covetousness
               and
               oppression
               ,
               he
               begins
               to
               plead
               for
               their
               taking
               tithes
               ,
               and
               his
               taking
               hire
               in
               these
               words
               ,
            
             The
             same
             Law
             of
             the
             Land
             that
             makes
             nine
             parts
             theirs
             ,
             doth
             make
             the
             tenth
             ours
             ;
             if
             we
             have
             no
             title
             to
             the
             tenth
             ,
             they
             have
             none
             to
             the
             rest
             ;
             we
             ask
             none
             of
             our
             people
             for
             a
             farthing
             ,
             they
             give
             it
             not
             to
             us
             ,
             it
             was
             never
             theirs
             when
             they
             buy
             or
             take
             Leases
             of
             their
             Land
             ,
             it
             is
             only
             the
             nine
             parts
             ,
             they
             pay
             for
             .
          
           
             
               Answ.
            
             Here
             he
             hath
             neither
             cleared
             himself
             from
             covetousnesse
             ,
             
             oppression
             ,
             nor
             from
             lying
             ,
             and
             here
             he
             challenges
             as
             great
             an
             interest
             in
             the
             Tithes
             as
             a
             man
             hath
             in
             his
             heritage
             ,
             or
             possession
             which
             he
             hath
             by
             inheritance
             ,
             and
             they
             that
             profess
             themselves
             Ministers
             of
             Christ
             ,
             pleads
             now
             for
             Tithes
             by
             a
             Law
             of
             the
             Nation
             ,
             when
             their
             Gospel
             will
             not
             manage
             them
             in
             taking
             Tithes
             ;
             truly
             the
             Masse
             Priests
             or
             Papists
             might
             have
             brought
             as
             strong
             a
             proof
             for
             their
             receiving
             Tithes
             as
             this
             man
             brings
             ,
             and
             the
             manner
             of
             both
             their
             receiving
             of
             them
             is
             contrary
             to
             the
             Law
             of
             God
             ,
             and
             what
             a
             man
             hath
             a
             just
             right
             to
             by
             inheritance
             is
             according
             to
             the
             Law
             of
             God
             ,
             but
             so
             is
             not
             the
             Tithes
             due
             to
             priests
             ,
             now
             seeing
             that
             the
             second
             priesthood
             is
             come
             which
             abolished
             tithes
             among
             the
             rest
             of
             the
             figures
             .
             And
             for
             people
             paying
             but
             for
             9
             parts
             of
             their
             estates
             ,
             or
             farmed
             lands
             :
             Let
             people
             see
             this
             Priests
             deceit
             in
             this
             ,
             and
             bring
             their
             evidences
             or
             deeds
             of
             lands
             or
             leases
             against
             him
             ,
             for
             do
             they
             not
             mention
             that
             every
             part
             and
             parsel
             of
             a
             tenement
             or
             a
             living
             that
             's
             sold
             ,
             is
             for
             the
             singular
             use
             of
             him
             or
             them
             that
             buyes
             it
             ,
             or
             for
             his
             or
             their
             heirs
             ,
             executors
             or
             assignes
             ,
             or
             every
             part
             and
             parcel
             of
             such
             a
             Tenement
             for
             the
             use
             of
             him
             that
             buyeth
             it
             ,
             or
             for
             the
             farmers
             use
             ;
             These
             and
             such
             like
             expressions
             are
             recorded
             in
             many
             legal
             evidences
             of
             the
             nation
             for
             farmes
             or
             livings
             without
             any
             exception
             for
             paying
             the
             priest
             tithes
             ,
             besides
             there
             is
             the
             husbandmans
             labour
             ,
             or
             his
             charges
             to
             labourers
             spended
             upon
             his
             living
             or
             Tenement
             and
             goods
             ;
             so
             that
             being
             considered
             in
             the
             tithes
             what
             the
             priest
             takes
             for
             tithes
             ,
             doth
             amount
             in
             many
             places
             to
             far
             more
             then
             the
             tenth
             of
             their
             estates
             ,
             &
             if
             mens
             ground
             wanted
             labour
             it
             would
             lie
             waste
             ,
             that
             the
             priests
             would
             soon
             want
             tithes
             ,
             which
             were
             established
             by
             the
             Pope
             ,
             and
             upheld
             by
             Tyrants
             who
             could
             argue
             as
             strongly
             for
             them
             as
             this
             priest
             doth
             ,
             and
             therefore
             by
             this
             mans
             argument
             were
             the
             mass-priests
             to
             be
             upheld
             by
             them
             because
             they
             could
             plead
             for
             an
             interest
             in
             tithes
             and
             other
             things
             ,
             by
             a
             Law
             .
             For
             shame
             you
             teachers
             in
             
               England
               ,
            
             if
             you
             be
             not
             popishly
             affected
             ,
             come
             out
             of
             their
             steps
             ,
             places
             and
             oppressions
             ,
             and
             if
             you
             ask
             not
             people
             for
             a
             farthing
             ,
             then
             why
             are
             so
             many
             of
             the
             people
             of
             God
             subpoened
             up
             to
             the
             Upper
             Bench
             ,
             and
             many
             have
             been
             imprisoned
             through
             your
             ungospel-like
             means
             ,
             and
             your
             envy
             and
             covetousness
             whereby
             the
             innocent
             suffers
             ,
             and
             
             the
             creation
             groans
             ,
             but
             the
             Lord
             will
             meet
             with
             you
             ,
             and
             pay
             you
             your
             wages
             for
             all
             your
             deceits
             one
             day
             .
             And
             whereas
             this
             lying
             priest
             also
             would
             here
             accuse
             us
             to
             make
             people
             Thieves
             ,
             and
             to
             have
             them
             rob
             God
             ,
             and
             to
             prove
             his
             deceit
             he
             brings
             these
             scriptures
             ,
             
               Mal.
               3.
               8.
               
               Rom.
               2.
               22.
               
               Gen.
            
             14.
             20.
             
             
               Heb.
            
             7.
             6
             ,
             9.
             
          
           
             
               Answer
               .
            
             It
             s
             no
             marvel
             that
             this
             hireling
             hath
             here
             prefered
             an
             outward
             or
             national
             Law
             before
             the
             scriptures
             ,
             for
             the
             scriptures
             in
             this
             place
             will
             not
             at
             all
             manage
             his
             designe
             for
             tithes
             ,
             for
             as
             for
             that
             in
             
               Gen.
            
             14
             ,
             20.
             and
             
               Heb.
            
             7.
             6.
             9.
             touching
             
               Melchizedecks
            
             receiving
             the
             tenths
             of
             the
             spoil
             of
             
               Abraham
            
             when
             
               Abraham
            
             was
             returned
             from
             the
             slaughter
             of
             the
             Kings
             ,
             which
             was
             before
             the
             Law
             was
             given
             ,
             it
             maketh
             nothing
             for
             the
             priests
             now
             receiving
             the
             tenths
             of
             mens
             estates
             ,
             labors
             and
             increases
             ,
             
               and
               Christ
               being
               a
               Priest
               for
               ever
               after
               the
               order
               of
               Melchisedec
               ,
            
             was
             not
             in
             order
             to
             
               Melchisedec's
            
             receiving
             the
             tenths
             of
             
               Abraham
               ,
            
             but
             in
             order
             to
             his
             Immortality
             ,
             and
             his
             being
             without
             desent
             ,
             without
             beginning
             of
             dayes
             or
             end
             of
             time
             .
             And
             Christ
             did
             not
             give
             any
             command
             for
             his
             to
             take
             tithes
             ,
             and
             for
             that
             in
             
               Mal.
            
             3.
             8.
             in
             
               Malachies
            
             time
             the
             Covenant
             was
             with
             
               Levi
               ,
            
             and
             that
             was
             before
             Christ
             came
             in
             the
             flesh
             ,
             when
             they
             were
             to
             bring
             the
             Tithes
             unto
             the
             store-house
             ,
             that
             the
             Lord
             might
             have
             meat
             in
             his
             house
             for
             fatherless
             widowes
             and
             strangers
             ,
             which
             was
             according
             to
             his
             covenant
             and
             law
             to
             
               Levi
               ,
            
             so
             that
             then
             in
             the
             prophets
             time
             ,
             when
             they
             did
             not
             bring
             the
             Tithes
             to
             the
             store-house
             they
             robbed
             God
             ,
             and
             the
             priests
             had
             corrupted
             the
             covenant
             of
             
               Levi
               ,
            
             and
             violated
             the
             Law
             of
             God
             ,
             
               Mal.
            
             2
             2.
             8.
             and
             3.
             8.
             so
             now
             seeing
             this
             priest
             counts
             the
             tithes
             or
             hire
             that
             they
             take
             to
             be
             of
             the
             Lords
             portion
             in
             page
             14
             and
             that
             if
             they
             have
             never
             so
             much
             that
             they
             devote
             it
             wholly
             to
             the
             Lord
             as
             he
             saith
             ,
             then
             I
             say
             where
             is
             their
             store-house
             ,
             
             or
             when
             do
             any
             of
             them
             bring
             the
             tithes
             to
             a
             store-house
             for
             the
             relief
             of
             fatherless
             widdowes
             and
             strangers
             ,
             seeing
             they
             bring
             that
             in
             ,
             
               Mal.
            
             3.
             8.
             for
             their
             taking
             tithes
             ;
             it
             may
             as
             well
             be
             said
             that
             they
             rob
             God
             :
             Now
             if
             the
             first
             covenant
             and
             Levitical
             Law
             ,
             and
             priest-hood
             were
             to
             be
             preached
             up
             now
             as
             they
             were
             counted
             
             robbers
             of
             God
             in
             
               Mallachies
            
             time
             that
             brought
             not
             the
             tithes
             to
             the
             store-house
             .
             But
             we
             conclude
             that
             that
             priesthood
             that
             took
             tithes
             is
             changed
             ,
             and
             of
             necessity
             ,
             the
             Law
             is
             changed
             and
             the
             commandment
             disanulled
             that
             gave
             tithes
             .
             
               Heb.
            
             7.
             and
             where
             this
             priest
             here
             would
             plead
             for
             tithes
             to
             be
             of
             divine
             institution
             ,
             by
             that
             in
             
               Mat
            
             23.
             23.
             here
             he
             would
             grosely
             blind
             the
             minds
             of
             people
             indeed
             ,
             and
             here
             he
             hath
             plainly
             brought
             a
             popish
             argument
             in
             effect
             ,
             and
             cited
             the
             Scriptures
             that
             the
             papists
             plead
             for
             tithes
             by
             ,
             as
             I
             have
             seen
             in
             an
             annotation
             of
             their
             ,
             adjoyned
             to
             that
             in
             
               Heb.
            
             7.
             but
             let
             me
             tell
             both
             the
             papists
             and
             the
             priests
             of
             
               England
               ,
            
             that
             when
             Christ
             spoke
             that
             in
             ,
             
               Mat.
            
             23.
             23.
             that
             this
             was
             before
             he
             suffered
             on
             the
             cross
             ,
             whereto
             he
             nailed
             the
             hand
             writing
             of
             Ordinances
             ,
             and
             blotted
             it
             out
             ,
             
               Colos.
            
             2.
             and
             he
             abolished
             in
             the
             flesh
             ,
             the
             Law
             of
             commandments
             contained
             in
             ordinances
             ;
             so
             that
             this
             priest
             and
             the
             rest
             that
             pleads
             for
             tithes
             to
             continue
             in
             that
             particular
             ,
             do
             deny
             Christ
             come
             in
             the
             flesh
             ,
             and
             are
             enemies
             to
             his
             cross
             ,
             minding
             earthly
             things
             ,
             and
             for
             earthly
             ends
             pleads
             for
             Tithes
             ,
             as
             to
             maintain
             themselves
             in
             ease
             ,
             and
             them
             and
             their
             wives
             and
             children
             in
             pride
             and
             Idleness
             ,
             which
             causeth
             the
             creation
             to
             groan
             ,
             and
             causeth
             many
             poor
             men
             to
             work
             hard
             and
             earn
             their
             livings
             dearly
             ;
             so
             that
             which
             they
             receive
             from
             the
             people
             is
             not
             devoted
             to
             the
             Lord
             as
             the
             Lords
             portion
             ,
             but
             coveted
             unto
             themselves
             ,
             for
             the
             maintaining
             of
             these
             covetous
             ,
             lazy
             shepherds
             in
             
               England
               ;
            
             and
             to
             maintain
             his
             deceit
             ,
             he
             also
             saith
             
               that
               the
               primative
               Christians
               gave
               not
               onely
               the
               tenth
               ,
               but
               all
               that
               they
               had
               ,
               and
               laid
               it
               at
               the
               Apostles
               feet
               .
            
          
           
             I
             answer
             ,
             but
             here
             the
             Apostles
             did
             not
             receive
             tithes
             for
             themselves
             ,
             nor
             plead
             for
             tithes
             as
             a
             Divine
             institution
             ,
             as
             the
             Priests
             do
             ;
             for
             this
             was
             that
             distribution
             might
             be
             made
             unto
             every
             man
             according
             as
             he
             had
             need
             ,
             
               Act.
            
             4.
             35.
             
             And
             this
             said
             Priest
             also
             goes
             about
             further
             to
             cover
             this
             his
             evil
             coveteousnes
             and
             oppression
             by
             that
             in
             the
             1
             
               Cor.
            
             9.
             5.
             7.
             13
             ,
             14.
             
             To
             which
             I
             answer
             ,
             that
             he
             ,
             and
             the
             rest
             of
             his
             companions
             ,
             in
             iniquity
             are
             manifest
             to
             be
             in
             anti-christs
             deceit
             ,
             and
             in
             cursed
             practises
             ,
             and
             the
             root
             of
             all
             evil
             sprung
             up
             in
             them
             ,
             to
             wit
             covetousnes
             after
             mony
             ,
             and
             the
             fruit
             of
             it
             ,
             as
             oppression
             which
             abounds
             
             among
             them
             ,
             and
             covetousness
             is
             idolatry
             ,
             so
             the
             priests
             that
             are
             covetous
             are
             Idolaters
             ,
             so
             then
             these
             Idolaters
             Anti-christs
             ,
             blinde
             guids
             and
             Deceivers
             have
             no
             interest
             in
             that
             livelyhood
             that
             pertained
             to
             the
             Gospel
             for
             their
             teaching
             ,
             seeing
             that
             they
             are
             no
             Ministers
             of
             the
             Gospel
             ;
             so
             for
             living
             of
             the
             Gospel
             they
             cannot
             ,
             and
             for
             going
             a
             warfare
             for
             the
             gospel
             they
             do
             not
             forgoing
             a
             warfare
             is
             not
             a
             lying
             loytering
             at
             ease
             in
             settled
             places
             as
             the
             Priests
             in
             
               England
            
             do
             ,
             like
             lazy
             drones
             who
             never
             came
             to
             endure
             hardship
             ,
             as
             the
             souldiers
             of
             Christ
             have
             done
             and
             do
             ,
             who
             go
             not
             a
             warfare
             at
             their
             own
             charges
             ,
             but
             their
             Master
             Christ
             bears
             them
             out
             and
             rewards
             them
             ,
             and
             puts
             them
             forth
             ,
             and
             goes
             before
             them
             ,
             and
             they
             live
             of
             the
             Gospel
             ,
             as
             his
             true
             Ministers
             have
             done
             who
             had
             power
             from
             him
             to
             eat
             and
             drink
             ,
             where
             they
             were
             received
             according
             to
             his
             command
             ,
             
               Mat.
               10.
               1
               Cor.
            
             9.
             but
             not
             to
             take
             tithes
             ,
             nor
             to
             oppress
             people
             as
             the
             Priests
             do
             ;
             so
             now
             
               R.
               Baxter
            
             thy
             false
             cloak
             for
             covetousness
             is
             quite
             rent
             ,
             and
             all
             thy
             arguing
             for
             preaching
             for
             hire
             ,
             and
             taking
             tithes
             ,
             will
             not
             at
             all
             maintain
             thee
             therein
             ,
             neither
             doth
             any
             scripture
             prove
             these
             thy
             practises
             ,
             nor
             are
             they
             at
             all
             concordable
             with
             the
             Saints
             practises
             .
          
           
             
               Priest
               .
            
             Prove
             us
             unsanctified
             ,
             and
             we
             will
             refign
             our
             office
             .
          
           
             
               Answ.
            
             Thou
             art
             proved
             a
             covetous
             man
             ,
             an
             idolater
             ,
             a
             false
             accuser
             ,
             a
             deceiver
             ;
             and
             covetous
             unthankful
             men
             ,
             (
             such
             as
             thou
             art
             )
             ware
             unholy
             ,
             2
             
               Tim.
            
             3.
             2
             ,
             3
             ,
             4
             :
             then
             you
             are
             unsanctified
             ,
             for
             such
             as
             are
             unholy
             may
             Justly
             be
             said
             to
             be
             unsanctified
             ,
             therefore
             if
             thou
             and
             you
             do
             not
             resign
             your
             office
             ,
             you
             'l
             be
             further
             taken
             notice
             of
             ,
             who
             hold
             up
             a
             deceitful
             trade
             that
             God
             wil
             overthrow
             who
             make
             a
             trade
             upon
             the
             Scripture
             ,
             and
             are
             teachers
             for
             hire
             which
             
               Micha
            
             and
             the
             Prophets
             of
             God
             cryed
             against
             ,
             &
             
               R.
               Baxter
            
             thou
             hast
             confessed
             as
             much
             as
             that
             which
             you
             are
             brought
             up
             to
             at
             the
             Universities
             as
             thou
             callest
             them
             is
             a
             trade
             ,
             in
             these
             words
             (
             
               to
               wit
               ,
               would
               not
               the
               time
               &
               labour
               and
               cost
               that
               they
               are
               at
               in
               the
               Schooles
               and
               Vniversities
               ,
               have
               fitted
               them
               for
               a
               more
               gainful
               trade
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Answ.
            
             It
             appears
             then
             that
             they
             that
             have
             mony
             enough
             therby
             may
             bind
             themselves
             as
             Apprentiless
             at
             
               Oxford
            
             or
             
               Cambridg
            
             (
             or
             at
             
               Durham
               ,
            
             which
             of
             late
             is
             set
             up
             to
             bring
             up
             such
             
             tradesmen
             )
             as
             through
             carnal
             industry
             and
             bestowing
             cost
             may
             come
             to
             such
             a
             trade
             as
             
               R.
               Baxter
               ,
            
             and
             the
             rest
             of
             the
             priests
             are
             of
             ,
             truly
             they
             may
             even
             be
             ashamed
             of
             calling
             themselves
             Ministers
             of
             Christ
             ,
             seeing
             that
             they
             are
             set
             up
             and
             made
             Ministers
             by
             the
             will
             of
             man
             ,
             through
             carnal
             cost
             ,
             and
             their
             own
             labour
             ,
             but
             here
             they
             are
             out
             of
             the
             true
             wisdom
             ,
             for
             it
             cannot
             be
             purchased
             with
             gold
             ,
             
               Job
               .
            
             28.
             15.
             
             And
             thus
             for
             the
             Priests
             education
             to
             their
             Ministry
             ,
             they
             cannot
             prove
             it
             to
             be
             as
             the
             call
             that
             
               Timothy
            
             and
             the
             elders
             in
             the
             Churches
             of
             Christ
             had
             ,
             though
             this
             priest
             hath
             gone
             about
             deceitfully
             in
             his
             second
             sheet
             to
             prove
             it
             ;
             but
             y●u
             may
             see
             further
             concerning
             that
             shortly
             and
             in
             plainness
             .
          
           
             
               Priest
               .
            
             In
             his
             fifth
             and
             thirteenth
             pages
             he
             confesseth
             that
             there
             is
             scandals
             in
             the
             Ministry
             (
             as
             drunkenness
             and
             swearing
             ,
             
               &c.
               )
               and
               saith
               ,
               that
               Ministers
               are
               still
               spurring
               on
               the
               Magistrates
               ,
               to
               cast
               out
               the
               insufficient
               ,
               negligent
               ,
               and
               scandalous
               .
            
          
           
             
               Answ.
            
             If
             the
             Priest
             be
             still
             spurring
             on
             the
             Magistrates
             ,
             then
             they
             make
             slaves
             on
             them
             ,
             and
             makes
             them
             as
             beasts
             ,
             or
             horses
             that
             wants
             understanding
             ,
             truly
             if
             the
             Magistrates
             grow
             not
             weary
             of
             their
             teachers
             they
             are
             very
             blinde
             ,
             and
             very
             much
             feared
             in
             their
             consciences
             ,
             for
             who
             could
             stil
             endure
             spurring
             on
             ,
             but
             I
             believe
             that
             if
             the
             Priests
             spur
             the
             Magistrates
             on
             as
             he
             calls
             it
             ,
             it
             s
             more
             for
             their
             own
             preferments
             that
             the
             priests
             have
             petitioned
             often
             to
             the
             Magistrates
             for
             Tithes
             ,
             Augmentations
             and
             preferments
             in
             the
             earth
             to
             satisfie
             their
             ungodly
             covetousnesse
             ,
             rather
             then
             spurred
             them
             on
             to
             cast
             out
             drunkards
             and
             swearers
             ;
             but
             if
             the
             Magistrates
             stood
             in
             the
             counsel
             of
             God
             ,
             they
             would
             have
             understanding
             how
             to
             act
             for
             God
             ,
             and
             do
             their
             duty
             in
             obedience
             to
             God
             of
             a
             ready
             mind
             ,
             and
             would
             not
             need
             the
             priests
             continually
             to
             spur
             them
             on
             as
             slaves
             ;
             But
             be
             not
             ye
             like
             the
             horse
             or
             mule
             that
             wanteth
             understanding
             ,
             but
             learn
             judgement
             and
             do
             justice
             
               ye
               Rulers
               .
            
             And
             what
             ,
             have
             the
             Priests
             been
             Rulers
             so
             long
             ,
             (
             as
             this
             priest
             pleads
             for
             them
             to
             be
             )
             and
             teachers
             in
             
               England
            
             so
             many
             years
             ,
             and
             have
             they
             not
             cast
             out
             from
             among
             them
             the
             drunkards
             and
             swearers
             yet
             ?
             It
             s
             even
             time
             for
             them
             to
             resign
             their
             office
             indeed
             :
             And
             this
             Priest
             saith
             ,
             
               that
               Magistracy
               is
               as
               truly
               from
               God
               as
               the
               Ministry
               .
            
          
           
             Then
             I
             say
             what
             need
             any
             Ministers
             be
             still
             spurring
             on
             the
             
             Magistrates
             as
             this
             Priest
             saith
             ,
             that
             they
             do
             (
             also
             he
             saith
             ,
             that
             there
             is
             a
             clearer
             word
             in
             the
             gospel
             for
             the
             Ministry
             then
             for
             the
             Migistracy
             in
             page
             2.
             )
             Then
             I
             say
             ,
             How
             is
             Magistracy
             as
             truly
             from
             God
             as
             the
             Ministry
             ?
             If
             there
             be
             a
             clearer
             word
             for
             the
             one
             then
             the
             other
             ,
             and
             also
             to
             say
             that
             there
             is
             two
             words
             in
             the
             Gospel
             ,
             the
             one
             not
             so
             clear
             as
             the
             other
             ,
             is
             another
             errour
             ;
             for
             every
             Word
             of
             God
             is
             clear
             ;
             and
             for
             Magistracy
             ,
             and
             the
             power
             that
             Magistrates
             are
             intrusted
             withall
             it
             is
             ordained
             of
             God
             ,
             but
             the
             Magistrates
             or
             Rulers
             that
             do
             uphold
             such
             blinde
             guides
             as
             this
             ,
             who
             is
             in
             such
             errours
             and
             confusion
             ,
             they
             grossely
             abuse
             their
             power
             ,
             and
             shall
             give
             an
             account
             for
             it
             one
             day
             .
             And
             this
             said
             Priest
             saith
             to
             them
             he
             calls
             Malignants
             ,
             &c.
             
             
               If
               you
               will
               come
               and
               help
               us
               to
               cast
               out
               any
               that
               are
               vitious
               and
               unworthy
               ,
               wee
               will
               give
               you
               thanks
               .
            
          
           
             
               Answer
               .
            
             Here
             he
             speaks
             of
             such
             helping
             them
             as
             before
             he
             counted
             as
             walking
             devils
             ,
             and
             as
             the
             highest
             in
             wickednesse
             upon
             earth
             ;
             surely
             he
             can
             but
             help
             his
             hearers
             badly
             and
             miserably
             for
             their
             souls
             seeing
             his
             strength
             is
             so
             much
             decayed
             ,
             that
             he
             would
             thank
             them
             he
             cals
             malignants
             if
             he
             could
             have
             their
             help
             ,
             it
             may
             be
             justly
             said
             that
             they
             that
             seek
             to
             him
             for
             help
             do
             but
             go
             down
             into
             
               AEgypt
            
             for
             help
             .
          
           
             
               Priest
               .
            
             If
             the
             Magistrates
             stop
             the
             mouths
             of
             such
             raylors
             and
             abusers
             of
             God
             and
             men
             ,
             he
             doth
             no
             more
             persecute
             then
             he
             persecuteth
             a
             thief
             when
             he
             haugeth
             him
             (
             
               and
               this
               he
               speaks
               against
               them
               called
            
             Quakers
             
               in
               page
            
             12.
             )
          
           
             
               Answer
               .
            
             Here
             his
             envy
             and
             maliciousnesse
             is
             made
             appear
             whereby
             he
             would
             stir
             up
             the
             Magistrates
             to
             persecute
             us
             for
             our
             profession
             ,
             which
             we
             know
             Christ
             Jesus
             is
             the
             Authour
             of
             ,
             and
             this
             is
             because
             that
             we
             are
             made
             to
             witnesse
             against
             him
             ,
             and
             against
             such
             deceitful
             tradesmen
             as
             he
             is
             ,
             but
             if
             he
             were
             in
             the
             truth
             ,
             and
             saw
             us
             in
             errors
             ,
             then
             he
             would
             not
             seek
             to
             incense
             the
             Magistrates
             to
             persecute
             us
             ,
             but
             rather
             seek
             to
             convince
             us
             by
             sound
             doctrine
             ,
             and
             a
             good
             example
             ,
             but
             such
             as
             he
             are
             manifest
             to
             be
             out
             of
             both
             ,
             and
             he
             would
             bring
             
               Paul
            
             and
             
               Peter
            
             and
             the
             Churches
             of
             Christ
             for
             a
             cloak
             to
             his
             malice
             ,
             which
             here
             he
             hath
             uttered
             to
             the
             Magistrate
             against
             us
             ,
             but
             they
             will
             not
             cover
             him
             nor
             his
             deceit
             ;
             for
             though
             they
             rejected
             ,
             judged
             and
             delivered
             some
             up
             to
             Satan
             ,
             yet
             they
             did
             
             not
             persecute
             them
             nor
             complain
             to
             the
             Magistrates
             to
             have
             thē
             east
             into
             prison
             ,
             nor
             to
             have
             their
             goods
             taken
             from
             them
             for
             their
             profession
             ,
             as
             many
             of
             the
             priests
             in
             
               England
            
             have
             done
             ,
             by
             whom
             many
             of
             the
             servants
             of
             the
             Lord
             in
             
               England
            
             have
             suffered
             and
             do
             suffer
             ,
             both
             the
             spoiling
             of
             their
             goods
             ,
             and
             imprisonments
             ,
             and
             some
             the
             losse
             of
             their
             lives
             in
             prisons
             ,
             whose
             sufferings
             will
             rise
             up
             as
             a
             heavy
             judgement
             when
             their
             prayers
             shall
             be
             fulfilled
             against
             their
             persecutors
             .
          
           
             And
             this
             said
             Priest
             it
             appears
             allows
             
               of
               hanging
               them
               that
               steal
               ,
            
             seeing
             that
             he
             would
             have
             us
             persecuted
             ,
             and
             counts
             it
             as
             lawful
             as
             
               hanging
               a
               thief
               .
            
          
           
             
               Answer
               .
            
             Here
             this
             is
             a
             murtherous
             spirit
             ,
             that
             would
             take
             away
             the
             life
             for
             the
             creatures
             ,
             and
             so
             doing
             is
             contrary
             to
             the
             Law
             of
             God
             ,
             Let
             the
             Priest
             and
             the
             Magistrate
             read
             
               Exod.
            
             22.
             1
             ,
             2
             ,
             3.
             
             
               If
               a
               man
               shall
               steal
               an
               Ox
               or
               a
               Sheep
               and
               kill
               it
               or
               sell
               it
               ,
               he
               shall
               restore
               five
               oxen
               for
               an
               Ox
               ,
               and
               4.
               
               Sheep
               for
               a
               sheep
               .
            
             If
             a
             thief
             be
             found
             breaking
             up
             ,
             and
             be
             smitten
             that
             he
             die
             ,
             there
             shall
             no
             blood
             be
             shed
             for
             him
             ;
             if
             the
             sun
             be
             risen
             upon
             him
             ,
             there
             shall
             he
             blood
             shed
             for
             him
             ,
             for
             he
             should
             make
             restitution
             .
             If
             he
             have
             nothing
             ,
             then
             he
             shall
             be
             sold
             for
             his
             theft
             ,
             
               Mark
            
             by
             this
             then
             if
             the
             thief
             was
             slain
             after
             the
             sun
             was
             risen
             ,
             there
             was
             blood
             to
             be
             shed
             for
             him
             ,
             and
             in
             verse
             the
             fourth
             ,
             if
             the
             theft
             certainly
             be
             found
             alive
             in
             his
             hands
             ,
             whether
             it
             be
             Ox
             ,
             Ass
             ,
             or
             Sheep
             ,
             he
             shall
             restore
             double
             ,
             and
             in
             
               Eph.
               4.
               28.
               
               Let
               him
               that
               stole
               steal
               no
               more
               ,
               but
               rather
               let
               him
               labour
               ,
               working
               with
               his
               hands
               the
               thing
               which
               is
               good
               ,
               that
               he
               may
               have
               to
               give
               to
               him
               that
               needeth
               ;
            
             but
             he
             doth
             not
             say
             that
             he
             is
             to
             be
             hanged
             for
             this
             theft
             ,
             and
             how
             shall
             he
             labour
             or
             work
             with
             his
             hands
             if
             he
             be
             hanged
             ?
             Therefore
             Magistrates
             had
             need
             to
             take
             heed
             of
             hanging
             thieves
             ,
             and
             priests
             of
             allowing
             it
             .
          
        
         
           
             Now
             concerning
             the
             Priests
             call
             to
             their
             Ministry
             as
             followeth
             ,
             and
             how
             it
             differs
             from
             the
             true
             call
             .
          
           
             Now
             whereas
             
               R.
               Baxter
            
             in
             his
             second
             sheet
             ,
             goeth
             about
             to
             prove
             the
             priests
             call
             to
             their
             Ministry
             to
             be
             of
             God
             ,
             and
             brings
             scriptures
             to
             prove
             his
             and
             their
             call
             to
             be
             lawful
             ;
             for
             their
             sakes
             that
             desires
             to
             be
             informed
             in
             this
             thing
             I
             shall
             mention
             something
             concerning
             it
             ,
             that
             the
             simple
             may
             be
             informed
             ,
             
             and
             the
             minds
             of
             the
             ignorant
             unvailed
             ,
             that
             they
             may
             see
             the
             difference
             between
             a
             true
             call
             which
             is
             revealed
             and
             a
             false
             call
             ,
             where
             revelation
             is
             denyed
             by
             the
             false
             Mininisters
             ,
             and
             that
             the
             scriptures
             ,
             and
             the
             form
             of
             sound
             words
             do
             not
             make
             void
             revelations
             .
          
           
             Whereas
             
               R
               :
               Baxter
            
             in
             his
             first
             proposition
             in
             pages
             3
             ,
             4
             :
             goeth
             about
             to
             prove
             2
             distinct
             sorts
             of
             Ministers
             ,
             first
             such
             as
             received
             revelation
             ,
             or
             a
             particular
             law
             or
             message
             immediately
             from
             God
             ,
             these
             were
             prophets
             and
             Apostles
             ;
             and
             he
             goes
             about
             to
             distinguish
             a
             second
             sort
             of
             Ministers
             from
             them
             ,
             and
             the
             second
             sort
             he
             calls
             over
             seers
             ,
             Bishops
             presbyters
             or
             elders
             ,
             pastors
             ,
             and
             Teachers
             ,
             and
             Decons
             ,
             and
             that
             the
             latter
             sort
             (
             as
             he
             calls
             them
             )
             was
             not
             to
             declarewhat
             they
             had
             immediately
             from
             God
             but
             what
             is
             declared
             in
             Scripture
             ,
             and
             what
             they
             have
             heard
             of
             others
             ,
             and
             saith
             that
             the
             holy
             Ghost
             is
             to
             help
             us
             in
             keeping
             that
             which
             is
             committed
             to
             us
             ,
             and
             not
             to
             reveal
             more
             .
          
           
             
               Answ.
            
             This
             is
             a
             false
             distinction
             and
             a
             perverting
             the
             scriptures
             to
             distinguish
             Elders
             ,
             Pastors
             and
             Teachers
             ,
             or
             Bishops
             from
             them
             that
             had
             Revelation
             and
             immediate
             teaching
             ,
             and
             from
             being
             Apostles
             ,
             for
             
               John
            
             was
             an
             Elder
             and
             declared
             what
             he
             had
             revealed
             ,
             that
             which
             he
             had
             heard
             ,
             that
             which
             he
             had
             seen
             ,
             and
             which
             he
             had
             looked
             upon
             ,
             which
             was
             from
             the
             beginning
             ,
             the
             same
             he
             shewed
             to
             others
             ,
             1
             
               John
            
             1.
             1.
             
             And
             he
             saith
             the
             Elder
             unto
             the
             Elect
             Lady
             ,
             and
             the
             Elder
             unto
             the
             wel-beloved
             2
             
               John
               1.
               3.
               
               John
            
             1.
             and
             
               John
            
             was
             an
             Apostle
             ,
             
               Mat.
            
             10.
             
             And
             the
             Apostle
             
               Peter
            
             was
             an
             Elder
             who
             had
             the
             word
             of
             God
             revealed
             ,
             so
             an
             Elder
             not
             distinct
             from
             an
             Apostle
             here
             as
             this
             man
             would
             have
             them
             :
             And
             
               Paul
            
             was
             a
             father
             in
             the
             truth
             ,
             and
             an
             Elder
             was
             as
             a
             father
             to
             be
             intreated
             ,
             1.
             
               Tim.
            
             5.
             1.
             so
             he
             that
             is
             a
             father
             is
             an
             Elder
             ,
             and
             the
             same
             that
             was
             an
             Elder
             was
             an
             Apostle
             ,
             and
             declared
             what
             he
             had
             received
             immediately
             from
             God
             ,
             and
             the
             Elders
             ,
             Pastors
             and
             Teachers
             had
             gifts
             given
             them
             from
             God
             when
             Christ
             was
             ascended
             
               he
               gave
               gifts
               unto
               men
               ,
               he
               gave
               some
               Apostles
               ,
               some
               Prophets
               ,
               and
               some
               Evangelists
               ,
               and
               some
               Pastors
               and
               Teachers
               ,
               for
               the
               perfecting
               of
               the
               Saints
               ;
               for
               the
               work
               of
               the
               Ministery
               ,
               for
               the
               edifying
               of
               the
               body
               of
               Christ
               ,
               Ephes.
            
             4.
             11
             ,
             12.
             the
             Apostle
             doth
             not
             say
             ,
             that
             the
             Evangelists
             ,
             Pastors
             and
             Teachers
             
             had
             not
             received
             that
             immediately
             from
             God
             which
             they
             taught
             ,
             as
             this
             man
             doth
             ,
             for
             they
             had
             gifts
             given
             them
             when
             Christ
             ascended
             ,
             which
             gifts
             were
             perfect
             ,
             and
             was
             given
             for
             the
             perfecting
             ,
             which
             gifts
             was
             revealed
             in
             the
             Church
             of
             Christ
             ,
             for
             these
             gifts
             were
             for
             the
             benefit
             of
             the
             Church
             ,
             neither
             had
             they
             received
             these
             gifts
             from
             man
             ,
             but
             from
             God
             ,
             and
             these
             that
             had
             gifts
             given
             them
             for
             the
             work
             of
             the
             Ministry
             ,
             whether
             Prophets
             ,
             Apostles
             ,
             Evangelists
             ,
             Pastors
             ,
             or
             Teachers
             ,
             they
             had
             power
             to
             ordain
             Elders
             in
             the
             Churches
             ,
             as
             well
             as
             the
             Apostles
             had
             power
             to
             lay
             on
             hands
             on
             several
             that
             beleeved
             ,
             which
             when
             they
             laid
             their
             hands
             ,
             immediately
             the
             holy
             Ghost
             came
             upon
             them
             ,
             so
             that
             
               Paul
               ,
            
             and
             
               Barnabas
               ,
            
             and
             
               Timothy
               ,
            
             and
             
               Titus
            
             had
             power
             to
             ordain
             Elders
             ,
             
               Acts
            
             14.
             23.
             
             
               Titus
            
             1.
             but
             this
             was
             in
             the
             Church
             whom
             Christ
             presented
             blameless
             ,
             and
             fitted
             for
             himself
             .
             
               Ephs.
            
             5.
             26
             27.
             and
             Chr●st
             had
             fitted
             them
             that
             were
             Elders
             ,
             Bishops
             ,
             or
             Deacons
             ,
             for
             himself
             before
             they
             were
             allowed
             of
             for
             their
             Office
             by
             the
             Apostles
             who
             were
             first
             to
             be
             tryed
             ,
             and
             then
             they
             were
             to
             Minister
             ;
             now
             that
             which
             presented
             them
             blameless
             was
             the
             gift
             of
             God
             ,
             and
             they
             had
             the
             gift
             revealed
             in
             them
             ,
             and
             a
             
               Bishop
               ,
               and
               a
               Decon
               must
               be
               blameless
               ,
               not
               given
               to
               wine
               ,
               no
               striker
               ,
               not
               greedy
               of
               filthy
               Lucre
               ,
               but
               patient
               ,
               not
               a
               brawler
               ,
               not
               covetous
               ,
               and
               apt
               to
               teach
               ,
            
             and
             so
             must
             Elders
             ,
             for
             they
             were
             Bishops
             ,
             
               Titus
               .
            
             1.
             5
             ,
             6.
             7.
             
          
           
             
               Priest
               .
            
             Now
             seeing
             this
             said
             priest
             professeth
             the
             Ministry
             in
             
               England
            
             to
             be
             of
             this
             sort
             ,
             for
             he
             saith
             in
             page
             the
             tenth
             
               for
               qualifications
               ,
               they
               have
               first
               competent
               knowledge
               ,
               secondly
               and
               utterance
               ,
               thirdly
               and
               godliness
               .
            
          
           
             
               Answ.
            
             That
             's
             all
             false
             ,
             For
             first
             how
             can
             they
             have
             competent
             knowledge
             seeing
             that
             they
             deny
             revelation
             ,
             and
             immediate
             teaching
             ,
             when
             as
             Christ
             saith
             no
             man
             knowes
             the
             father
             but
             the
             Son
             ,
             and
             he
             to
             whom
             the
             Son
             will
             reveal
             him
             ,
             
               Mat.
            
             11.
             here
             they
             that
             denies
             revelation
             knowes
             neither
             the
             father
             nor
             the
             Son
             .
             Let
             Christs
             own
             words
             stand
             a
             witness
             against
             this
             lying
             Priest
             ,
             and
             the
             rest
             of
             them
             :
             Secondly
             true
             utterance
             they
             are
             far
             from
             ,
             seeing
             that
             they
             deny
             immediate
             teaching
             by
             the
             spirit
             ;
             for
             true
             utterance
             was
             a
             gift
             of
             the
             Spirit
             ,
             the
             Saints
             spoke
             as
             the
             spirit
             gave
             them
             utterance
             ,
             and
             the
             spirit
             &
             word
             of
             God
             was
             revealed
             in
             
               Timothy
            
             &
             
               Titus
               ,
            
             who
             were
             owned
             for
             Ministers
             by
             the
             Apostles
             ,
             &
             
               Timothy
            
             had
             the
             gift
             of
             God
             in
             him
             ,
             and
             
             unfeigned
             faith
             in
             him
             ,
             and
             that
             gift
             was
             given
             by
             Prophesie
             with
             the
             laying
             on
             of
             the
             hands
             of
             the
             company
             of
             Elders
             ,
             as
             it
             is
             in
             some
             translations
             recorded
             ,
             now
             his
             call
             was
             not
             like
             the
             call
             of
             these
             Priests
             of
             
               England
               ,
            
             for
             the
             Prophefies
             that
             went
             on
             
               Timothy
               ,
            
             they
             came
             not
             by
             the
             will
             of
             man
             ,
             neither
             was
             the
             laying
             on
             of
             Elders
             hands
             according
             to
             mans
             will
             .
             So
             that
             though
             the
             Priests
             would
             put
             themselves
             in
             number
             with
             
               Timothy
            
             and
             the
             Elders
             ,
             yet
             we
             find
             them
             shut
             out
             from
             their
             call
             and
             Ministry
             ,
             for
             we
             never
             understood
             that
             they
             that
             set
             up
             these
             priests
             were
             called
             as
             
               Peter
            
             or
             
               Paul
               ,
            
             or
             the
             Elders
             ,
             who
             had
             power
             to
             lay
             on
             the
             hands
             ,
             that
             the
             holy
             Ghost
             fell
             on
             the
             party
             on
             whom
             they
             laid
             on
             their
             hands
             ,
             and
             thus
             much
             will
             some
             of
             the
             Priests
             confess
             ,
             which
             may
             be
             to
             the
             shame
             of
             him
             that
             here
             professeth
             himself
             to
             be
             called
             as
             
               Timothy
            
             was
             .
             And
             further
             this
             man
             aforesaid
             hath
             confessed
             that
             the
             Ministers
             for
             whom
             he
             pleads
             ,
             are
             brought
             up
             at
             the
             Universities
             ,
             as
             he
             calls
             them
             ,
             where
             they
             have
             bestowed
             labour
             and
             cost
             to
             bring
             them
             up
             to
             the
             Ministery
             ,
             which
             might
             have
             fitted
             them
             for
             a
             more
             gainful
             trade
             ;
             so
             that
             here
             their
             education
             is
             not
             to
             the
             true
             Ministry
             ,
             but
             to
             a
             trade
             ;
             but
             
               Timothy
            
             and
             
               Titus
               ,
            
             and
             the
             elders
             in
             the
             true
             Churches
             ,
             on
             whom
             the
             Apostle
             laid
             hands
             ,
             did
             not
             make
             a
             trade
             on
             their
             Ministry
             ,
             nor
             on
             the
             Scripture
             ,
             though
             they
             knew
             the
             Scriptures
             and
             did
             preach
             the
             word
             of
             God
             according
             to
             the
             Scriptures
             by
             the
             gift
             of
             God
             in
             them
             ,
             and
             who
             was
             to
             do
             the
             work
             of
             Evangelists
             ,
             whom
             Christ
             had
             endued
             with
             gifts
             from
             above
             ,
             neither
             was
             the
             holy
             Ghost
             to
             be
             bought
             with
             mony
             though
             it
             fell
             on
             several
             who
             believed
             ,
             when
             the
             Apostles
             laid
             their
             hands
             on
             them
             ,
             for
             he
             and
             his
             mony
             was
             to
             perish
             who
             would
             have
             bought
             the
             holy
             Ghost
             with
             mony
             ,
             
               Acts
            
             8.
             19.
             20.
             
             So
             all
             the
             cost
             that
             the
             priests
             bestowes
             at
             
               Oxford
            
             or
             
               Cambridge
               ,
            
             it
             doth
             but
             purchase
             them
             a
             trade
             ,
             and
             that
             a
             deceitful
             one
             too
             ,
             it
             cannot
             purchase
             the
             holy
             Ghost
             ,
             nor
             the
             gifts
             of
             the
             spirit
             ,
             which
             Bishops
             ,
             Elders
             ,
             and
             Deacons
             ,
             in
             the
             true
             Churches
             were
             indued
             and
             fitted
             with
             ,
             but
             not
             made
             Ministers
             at
             Schools
             ,
             nor
             by
             the
             will
             of
             man
             ,
             as
             the
             priests
             are
             now
             .
             Thirdly
             ,
             Neither
             are
             they
             in
             godlinesse
             nor
             qualified
             as
             a
             true
             Bishop
             ,
             or
             a
             Deacon
             ,
             or
             Elder
             ,
             seeing
             that
             the
             Priests
             in
             
               England
               ,
            
             are
             covetous
             ,
             greedy
             of
             filthy
             lucre
             ,
             and
             many
             of
             them
             given
             to
             wine
             ,
             and
             envious
             men
             ,
             and
             brawlers
             ,
             and
             novices
             as
             
             many
             in
             this
             nation
             can
             witness
             ,
             but
             the
             true
             Elders
             were
             not
             such
             ,
             and
             the
             man
             of
             God
             was
             to
             flee
             from
             the
             desire
             of
             mony
             ,
             and
             they
             that
             went
             in
             the
             error
             of
             
               Balaam
            
             for
             reward
             ,
             and
             in
             the
             way
             of
             
               Cain
            
             to
             envy
             ,
             and
             through
             covetousnesse
             made
             merchandise
             of
             people
             ,
             were
             ungodly
             men
             ,
             ordained
             of
             old
             for
             condemnation
             ,
             
               Jude
               11.
               2
               Pet.
            
             2.
             
             Therefore
             the
             Priests
             being
             ignorant
             of
             Revelation
             ,
             immediate
             teaching
             from
             God
             ,
             and
             being
             out
             of
             the
             true
             knowledge
             ,
             utterance
             and
             godliness
             ,
             so
             strangers
             to
             the
             heavenly
             gift
             ,
             they
             are
             not
             fit
             to
             teach
             ,
             but
             are
             deceivers
             ,
             shut
             out
             from
             among
             the
             number
             of
             the
             true
             Elders
             of
             Christ
             ,
             for
             the
             ungodly
             shall
             not
             be
             numbered
             with
             the
             seed
             of
             the
             righteous
             ;
             but
             we
             look
             at
             the
             life
             and
             gifts
             of
             God
             which
             qualifies
             and
             brings
             into
             the
             state
             and
             condition
             that
             the
             true
             Elders
             ,
             Bishops
             and
             Deacons
             were
             in
             ,
             more
             then
             their
             names
             ,
             seeing
             that
             they
             could
             not
             have
             these
             names
             ,
             nor
             be
             ordained
             for
             their
             office
             by
             the
             Apostles
             ,
             till
             they
             were
             first
             fitted
             and
             tryed
             in
             the
             truth
             ,
             and
             by
             the
             gift
             of
             God
             which
             was
             in
             the
             Apostles
             and
             elders
             of
             the
             true
             Church
             ,
             who
             denyed
             not
             revelation
             and
             immediate
             teaching
             ,
             for
             they
             had
             that
             revealed
             in
             them
             which
             they
             taught
             ,
             and
             by
             that
             knew
             the
             holy
             scriptures
             which
             are
             able
             to
             make
             a
             man
             wise
             unto
             salvation
             through
             faith
             that
             is
             in
             Christ
             ,
             but
             without
             faith
             which
             is
             revealed
             ,
             and
             the
             gift
             of
             God
             ,
             the
             Scriptures
             cannot
             be
             known
             as
             they
             ought
             to
             be
             ,
             for
             it
             is
             the
             man
             of
             God
             that
             the
             Scriptures
             are
             profitable
             for
             the
             furnishing
             of
             ,
             and
             for
             our
             learning
             they
             are
             written
             who
             walk
             not
             after
             the
             flesh
             but
             after
             the
             Spirit
             .
          
           
             
               Priest
               .
            
             But
             we
             are
             not
             built
             on
             the
             foundation
             of
             every
             Pastor
             ,
             Teacher
             ,
             Elder
             ,
             Bishop
             ,
             or
             Deacon
             ,
             though
             both
             in
             their
             places
             ,
             Apostles
             ,
             Prophets
             ,
             Evangelists
             ,
             Pastors
             ,
             and
             Teachers
             are
             given
             for
             the
             perfecting
             of
             the
             Saints
             ,
             &c.
             
          
           
             
               Answ.
            
             Here
             he
             would
             make
             two
             foundations
             ,
             the
             foundatition
             of
             the
             Prophets
             and
             Apostles
             ,
             not
             to
             be
             the
             foundation
             of
             the
             Pastors
             ,
             Teachers
             ,
             and
             Elders
             ,
             (
             which
             were
             all
             given
             of
             God
             )
             here
             he
             hath
             quite
             shut
             himself
             forth
             of
             the
             number
             of
             the
             true
             Church
             ,
             and
             hath
             shut
             himself
             out
             from
             being
             one
             of
             that
             sort
             of
             Ministers
             which
             before
             he
             pretended
             himself
             to
             be
             of
             ,
             so
             that
             this
             doth
             the
             more
             confirm
             to
             what
             I
             have
             written
             ,
             for
             how
             can
             he
             be
             either
             true
             Pastor
             ,
             Teacher
             ,
             or
             Elder
             ,
             when
             he
             
             is
             not
             built
             upon
             their
             foundation
             ,
             according
             to
             his
             own
             confession
             ,
             so
             he
             cannot
             be
             any
             Minister
             of
             Christ
             who
             is
             not
             built
             upon
             the
             true
             foundation
             which
             is
             but
             one
             ;
             so
             you
             may
             take
             notice
             of
             
               R.
               Baxters
            
             confusion
             ,
             for
             another
             foundation
             can
             no
             man
             lay
             then
             that
             which
             is
             laid
             ,
             which
             is
             Christ
             ,
             and
             they
             that
             were
             members
             of
             the
             true
             Church
             ,
             were
             built
             upon
             the
             foundation
             of
             the
             Prophets
             and
             Apostles
             ,
             Christ
             Jesus
             being
             the
             chief
             corner
             stone
             ,
             who
             was
             &
             is
             the
             saints
             foundation
             ,
             and
             that
             building
             which
             is
             not
             builded
             upon
             Christ
             ,
             shall
             as
             surely
             fall
             as
             
               R.
               Baxter
            
             is
             proved
             to
             be
             no
             Minister
             of
             Christ
             ,
             and
             that
             is
             sure
             enough
             .
          
           
             Priest
             .
             
               In
               page
               the
               14
               he
               brins
               an
               objection
               which
               is
               ,
            
             But
             you
             are
             not
             ordained
             by
             Bishops
             ;
             
               his
               answer
               is
            
             almost
             all
             in
             England
             are
             till
             of
             late
             ,
             if
             that
             will
             serve
             ,
             our
             parish
             Presbyters
             are
             Bishops
             ,
             &c.
             
          
           
             
               Answ.
            
             Here
             he
             goes
             about
             to
             justifie
             the
             Bishops
             that
             was
             in
             
               England
               ,
            
             ordaining
             of
             priests
             ,
             so
             that
             in
             this
             he
             is
             setting
             up
             that
             which
             before
             he
             pretended
             they
             had
             taken
             down
             as
             in
             his
             other
             sheet
             in
             page
             the
             sixth
             ,
             he
             saith
             ,
             
               have
               not
               the
               Ministers
               themselves
               been
               the
               pincipal
               instruments
               of
               taking
               down
               Bishops
               ,
               Deans
               ,
               and
               chapters
               ,
               Arch-Deacons
               ,
               Prebends
               ,
               and
               all
               means
               of
               preferments
               ,
               and
               what
               have
               they
               got
               by
               it
               ?
            
             so
             he
             that
             is
             here
             setting
             up
             that
             which
             before
             he
             hath
             pretended
             ,
             that
             the
             Ministers
             have
             taken
             down
             ,
             here
             he
             makes
             himself
             a
             transgressor
             ;
             and
             people
             may
             take
             notice
             further
             against
             this
             priest
             for
             a
             lyar
             that
             all
             means
             of
             preferment
             which
             the
             Bishops
             was
             preferred
             in
             ,
             the
             Priests
             of
             
               England
            
             have
             not
             taken
             down
             ,
             seeing
             that
             almost
             all
             of
             them
             ,
             till
             of
             late
             are
             ordained
             by
             the
             Bishops
             ;
             so
             they
             are
             not
             Christs
             Ministers
             ,
             but
             Bishops
             Ministers
             ,
             and
             if
             all
             the
             Bishops
             means
             of
             preferment
             were
             taken
             down
             by
             the
             Priests
             ,
             then
             what
             means
             the
             Priests
             taking
             Tithes
             and
             upholding
             such
             great
             oppression
             ,
             as
             causeth
             the
             creation
             to
             groan
             ,
             and
             their
             suing
             people
             at
             Law
             ,
             and
             their
             causing
             of
             them
             to
             be
             imprisoned
             that
             refuse
             to
             pay
             the
             Priests
             Tithes
             (
             for
             conscience
             sake
             )
             surely
             here
             is
             Bishops
             Ministers
             ,
             upholding
             Bishops
             Tyranny
             ,
             and
             that
             by
             Bishops
             Lawes
             that
             are
             corrupt
             (
             and
             unrepealed
             )
             as
             may
             be
             made
             appear
             :
             This
             Priest
             hath
             quite
             cast
             himself
             into
             the
             mire
             ,
             and
             hath
             made
             his
             call
             void
             ,
             for
             he
             saith
             in
             his
             16
             page
             (
             
               the
               truth
               of
               our
               doctrine
               depends
               not
               on
               our
               
               calling
            
             )
             Then
             it
             is
             manifest
             that
             their
             calling
             is
             a
             false
             calling
             ,
             for
             if
             it
             were
             of
             God
             it
             were
             according
             to
             true
             doctrine
             ,
             &
             true
             doctrine
             that
             's
             preached
             in
             obedience
             to
             a
             true
             calling
             ;
             depends
             on
             ,
             or
             hath
             unity
             with
             that
             calling
             .
          
           
             
               Priest
               .
            
             He
             that
             hath
             no
             just
             call
             shall
             answer
             for
             what
             he
             doth
             as
             an
             intruder
             ,
             but
             the
             people
             shall
             have
             for
             all
             that
             the
             fruit
             of
             his
             Ministration
             ,
             and
             preaching
             ,
             and
             Baptism
             ,
             and
             other
             acts
             shall
             not
             be
             null
             to
             them
             .
          
           
             
               Answ.
            
             That
             's
             false
             ,
             for
             they
             that
             ran
             and
             the
             Lord
             sent
             them
             not
             (
             they
             had
             not
             a
             just
             call
             from
             God
             )
             they
             could
             not
             profit
             the
             people
             at
             all
             ,
             therefore
             their
             teaching
             was
             null
             to
             the
             people
             as
             yours
             is
             ,
             who
             are
             not
             built
             upon
             the
             foundation
             of
             the
             true
             Prophets
             ,
             and
             Elders
             ,
             accordingly
             as
             it
             is
             made
             appear
             in
             the
             foregoing
             words
             ,
             as
             also
             is
             your
             unjust
             call
             ;
             and
             here
             thou
             goest
             about
             to
             vindicate
             an
             intruders
             preaching
             ,
             when
             as
             the
             Apostle
             witnessed
             against
             such
             ,
             
               Colos.
            
             2.
             for
             intruders
             are
             mainly
             puft
             up
             in
             their
             fleshly
             minds
             ,
             and
             even
             so
             is
             he
             that
             would
             have
             them
             to
             be
             preachers
             .
          
           
             
               Priest
               .
            
             In
             page
             the
             ninth
             ,
             
               The
               necessities
               of
               the
               Church
               continue
               ,
               we
               still
               need
               a
               Teaching
               Ministry
               ,
            
             and
             for
             that
             he
             brings
             ,
             
               Heb.
            
             5.
             11.
             
          
           
             
               Ans.
            
             In
             
               Heb.
            
             5.
             there
             is
             no
             such
             word
             as
             that
             the
             necessities
             of
             the
             Church
             continue
             ,
             here
             he
             is
             proved
             to
             be
             a
             perverter
             of
             the
             Scripture
             ,
             as
             it
             may
             be
             seen
             in
             that
             place
             ,
             for
             those
             unto
             whom
             the
             Apostle
             spoke
             was
             dull
             of
             hearing
             ,
             so
             he
             reproved
             them
             ,
             for
             when
             as
             for
             the
             time
             they
             might
             have
             been
             teachers
             ,
             they
             themselves
             had
             need
             to
             have
             been
             taught
             ,
             but
             he
             did
             not
             say
             they
             still
             needed
             teaching
             by
             Ministers
             ,
             as
             this
             priest
             would
             have
             the
             Church
             to
             continue
             in
             necessity
             ,
             and
             so
             then
             if
             the
             necessity
             of
             the
             Church
             continue
             ,
             the
             Church
             is
             not
             supplied
             ;
             Oh
             what
             blindness
             is
             here
             ,
             that
             ever
             people
             should
             be
             blinded
             and
             led
             by
             such
             blind
             guids
             as
             this
             ,
             they
             may
             be
             in
             want
             and
             necessity
             ,
             still
             ever
             learning
             ,
             never
             able
             to
             come
             to
             the
             knowledge
             of
             the
             truth
             indeed
             ,
             that
             are
             lead
             by
             them
             ,
             and
             never
             come
             to
             receive
             the
             promise
             ,
             while
             they
             are
             led
             by
             such
             ,
             but
             the
             promise
             of
             God
             was
             fulfilled
             in
             the
             Churches
             who
             were
             taught
             of
             God
             as
             he
             had
             promised
             ,
             
               they
               shall
               not
               need
               to
               teach
               every
               man
               his
               neighbour
               ,
               saying
               know
               the
               Lord
               ,
               but
               they
               shall
               all
               know
               
               me
               from
               the
               least
               to
               the
               greatest
               saith
               the
               Lord
               ,
               Heb.
            
             8
             and
             
               John
            
             wrote
             to
             them
             that
             needed
             not
             that
             any
             man
             should
             teach
             them
             ,
             for
             
               they
               had
               the
               annoiting
               from
               the
               father
               which
               taught
               them
               of
               all
               things
               ,
            
             but
             this
             said
             Priest
             hath
             been
             much
             pleading
             for
             himself
             ,
             and
             such
             as
             he
             is
             to
             be
             the
             principal
             members
             ,
             parts
             and
             supporters
             of
             the
             Church
             ,
             but
             it
             may
             be
             truly
             said
             that
             such
             Churches
             as
             have
             such
             as
             he
             is
             for
             their
             principal
             members
             and
             supporters
             ,
             that
             they
             are
             both
             blind
             and
             lame
             ;
             &
             dumb
             from
             speaking
             any
             thing
             from
             revelation
             or
             immediate
             teaching
             from
             God
             ,
             but
             them
             of
             the
             true
             Church
             witnessed
             both
             ,
             for
             they
             might
             all
             prophesie
             one
             by
             one
             ,
             1
             
               Corinth
               .
            
             14.
             31.
             
             And
             this
             priest
             also
             saith
             in
             the
             foresaid
             page
             that
             there
             is
             no
             salvation
             promised
             but
             to
             the
             Church
             ,
             and
             brings
             
               Ephes.
            
             5.
             23
             ,
             25
             ,
             26
             ,
             27
             ,
             and
             
               Mark
            
             16.
             16.
             to
             prove
             his
             deceit
             when
             there
             is
             no
             such
             word
             in
             these
             scriptures
             as
             he
             brings
             them
             for
             ,
             but
             if
             he
             had
             said
             that
             there
             are
             none
             in
             whom
             the
             promise
             of
             salvation
             is
             fulfilled
             ,
             but
             them
             of
             the
             true
             Church
             ,
             he
             would
             not
             need
             have
             been
             questioned
             for
             so
             saying
             ,
             but
             Christ
             who
             is
             the
             covenant
             and
             the
             salvation
             of
             God
             ,
             he
             is
             promised
             
               to
               be
               his
               salvation
               to
               the
               ends
               of
               the
               earth
               ,
               and
               he
               is
               given
               for
               a
               light
               unto
               the
               Gentiles
               ,
            
             and
             the
             scripture
             foreseeing
             (
             or
             foretelling
             )
             
               that
               God
               would
               justifie
               the
               heathen
               through
               faith
               ,
               Gal.
            
             3.
             8.
             and
             they
             shall
             be
             called
             the
             people
             of
             God
             that
             were
             not
             his
             people
             ,
             so
             that
             the
             promise
             of
             God
             reached
             unto
             a
             people
             ,
             before
             it
             was
             fulfilled
             ,
             and
             before
             that
             they
             were
             united
             into
             the
             Church
             ,
             but
             this
             blinde
             guide
             hath
             made
             manifest
             his
             ignorance
             concerning
             the
             promise
             of
             salvation
             as
             he
             hath
             done
             concerning
             many
             other
             things
             he
             hath
             given
             forth
             in
             his
             lying
             papers
             ,
             who
             saith
             that
             
               many
               thousands
               are
               damned
               for
               want
               of
               the
               light
               ,
            
             but
             in
             this
             he
             is
             also
             in
             errour
             ,
             for
             thousands
             are
             condemned
             by
             the
             light
             ,
             because
             they
             hate
             it
             ,
             
               and
               this
               is
               the
               condemnation
               ,
               that
               light
               is
               come
               into
               the
               world
               ,
               and
               men
               loved
               darkness
               rather
               then
               the
               light
               because
               their
               deeds
               are
               evil
               ,
               John
            
             3.
             
             And
             this
             said
             priest
             in
             his
             second
             page
             would
             accuse
             them
             he
             calls
             
               Quakers
            
             for
             being
             the
             Papists
             Agents
             but
             this
             we
             deny
             and
             return
             it
             back
             again
             upon
             him
             ,
             for
             both
             the
             Papists
             ,
             their
             wayes
             ,
             worships
             ,
             superstition
             and
             deceits
             and
             adherents
             we
             clearly
             witness
             against
             in
             life
             ,
             conversation
             and
             doctrine
             ,
             as
             in
             many
             things
             is
             evident
             to
             the
             World
             in
             many
             of
             our
             books
             and
             manner
             of
             
             our
             life
             ;
             and
             for
             them
             he
             calls
             
               Seekers
            
             among
             whom
             he
             numbers
             us
             ,
             All
             that
             are
             seeking
             ,
             worshipping
             or
             waiting
             in
             their
             own
             wills
             and
             imaginations
             we
             deny
             ,
             but
             they
             that
             seek
             in
             sincerity
             so
             as
             to
             find
             the
             right
             way
             we
             own
             them
             according
             to
             the
             true
             light
             wherein
             the
             drawings
             of
             God
             is
             manifest
             unto
             them
             that
             believe
             in
             the
             Light
             
               which
               doth
               inlighten
               every
               man
               that
               cometh
               into
               the
               world
               .
            
             And
             
               R.
               Baxter
            
             saith
             
               this
               is
               the
               saving
               Gospel
               that
               the
               Seekers
               ,
               Quakers
               and
               their
               brethren
               preach
               ,
               that
               the
               scripture
               is
               not
               the
               Gospel
               ,
               &c.
               
            
             I
             answer
             ,
          
           
             If
             the
             
               Quakers
            
             preach
             a
             saving
             Gospel
             ,
             then
             out
             of
             thy
             own
             mouth
             art
             thou
             judged
             ,
             to
             revile
             and
             speak
             evil
             of
             the
             Ministers
             of
             the
             Gospel
             ,
             and
             then
             why
             hast
             thou
             written
             so
             much
             against
             the
             
               Quakers
            
             as
             thou
             calls
             them
             ,
             if
             they
             preach
             the
             saving
             Gospel
             which
             is
             everlasting
             ,
             which
             was
             before
             the
             scripture
             was
             .
             But
             didst
             thou
             mean
             as
             thou
             hast
             spoken
             ?
             if
             thou
             did
             ,
             then
             why
             do
             not
             you
             Priests
             preach
             that
             which
             here
             thou
             saist
             we
             preach
             .
             But
             what
             thou
             
               R.
               Baxter
            
             hath
             uttered
             in
             these
             two
             sheets
             is
             not
             the
             first
             time
             thou
             hast
             set
             thy self
             against
             the
             innocent
             and
             against
             the
             Truth
             with
             thy
             lies
             and
             confusions
             ,
             as
             the
             Reader
             may
             be
             further
             satisfied
             concerning
             thee
             if
             he
             read
             the
             Answer
             to
             thy
             book
             called
             
               The
               Quakers
               Catechism
               ,
            
             and
             that
             book
             tituled
             (
             
               Many
               strong
               reasons
               confounded
            
             )
             in
             answer
             to
             another
             lying
             sheet
             of
             thine
             against
             the
             
               Quakers
               ;
            
             And
             here
             thou
             art
             proved
             a
             Deceiver
             ,
             a
             Raylor
             ,
             and
             false
             accuser
             of
             the
             innocent
             ,
             a
             teacher
             and
             disperser
             of
             lies
             and
             false
             doctrines
             ,
             and
             thy
             call
             to
             be
             a
             false
             call
             ,
             and
             thou
             and
             the
             rest
             that
             own
             thee
             to
             be
             out
             of
             the
             true
             foundation
             :
             Therefore
             stop
             thy
             mouth
             ,
             and
             give
             over
             thy
             trade
             for
             shame
             ,
             and
             be
             confounded
             ,
             for
             the
             light
             is
             risen
             and
             the
             morning
             is
             broken
             forth
             which
             discovers
             all
             you
             blinde
             guides
             ,
             and
             destroyers
             of
             souls
             ,
             and
             your
             filthinesse
             shame
             and
             confusion
             is
             made
             appear
             ,
             and
             your
             noysom
             smell
             of
             wickednesse
             ,
             oppression
             ,
             pride
             and
             deceit
             is
             come
             up
             before
             the
             Lord
             who
             will
             consume
             you
             by
             the
             breath
             of
             his
             mouth
             and
             will
             scatter
             you
             and
             break
             you
             ,
             and
             stamp
             you
             to
             pieces
             .
             Dread
             and
             tremble
             you
             
               Babylons
            
             Tradesmen
             ,
             for
             the
             time
             is
             a
             coming
             that
             your
             ware
             shall
             not
             be
             esteemed
             of
             ,
             and
             you
             shall
             wail
             for
             the
             misery
             that
             is
             coming
             
             upon
             you
             ,
             and
             let
             all
             that
             love
             their
             souls
             save
             themselves
             from
             this
             wicked
             generation
             of
             deceivers
             ,
             and
             return
             to
             the
             Lord
             God
             ,
             and
             walk
             in
             his
             light
             which
             shineth
             in
             their
             hearts
             ,
             to
             receive
             the
             teachings
             of
             his
             wayes
             ,
             that
             the
             true
             promises
             and
             Ministry
             they
             may
             partake
             of
             ,
             and
             deny
             the
             false
             ministry
             and
             ministers
             which
             we
             are
             made
             through
             the
             truth
             to
             witnesse
             against
             and
             renounce
             with
             their
             dishonesty
             ,
             and
             we
             preach
             not
             to
             keep
             people
             alwayes
             learning
             ,
             but
             that
             they
             may
             bee
             turned
             from
             the
             darknesse
             to
             the
             light
             ,
             and
             come
             to
             see
             the
             true
             Ministry
             fulfilled
             in
             them
             by
             the
             spirit
             of
             Truth
             .
             This
             onely
             lay
             upon
             me
             to
             give
             forth
             for
             the
             Truths
             sake
             ,
             to
             clear
             it
             ,
             and
             them
             that
             are
             in
             it
             from
             lies
             ,
             otherwise
             I
             should
             have
             been
             willing
             to
             have
             suffered
             under
             them
             ,
             for
             it
             is
             no
             pleasure
             nor
             advancing
             to
             me
             to
             search
             in
             the
             Priests
             confusion
             .
          
        
         
           THE
           END
           ▪
        
         
      
    
     
       
         Notes, typically marginal, from the original text
         
           Notes for div A65843e-250
           
             And
             if
             the
             reader
             would
             be
             further
             satisfied
             touching
             the
             ground
             and
             rise
             of
             Tithes
             ,
             he
             may
             seriusly
             view
             a
             book
             called
             the
             great
             case
             of
             Tithes
             truly
             stated
             by
             
               A.
               P.