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             Something by way of testimony concerning Clement Lake of Crediton in Devonshire with something he wrote in his life time by way of answer unto John Flavell, independent preacher of Dartmouth.
             Lake, CLement, d. 1689.
             Flavel, John, 1630?-1691.
          
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             London :
             1692.
          
           
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           Something
           
             By
             way
             of
             Testimony
          
           Concerning
           Clement
           Lake
           OF
           Crediton
           in
           Devonshire
           ;
           With
           Something
           he
           wrote
           in
           his
           Life
           time
           ,
           by
           way
           of
           Answer
           ,
           unto
           JOHN
           FLAVELL
           ,
           Independant
           Preacher
           of
           DARTMOUTH
           .
        
         
           Blessed
           are
           the
           Dead
           which
           dye
           in
           the
           Lord
           ,
           from
           henceforth
           ,
           yea
           ,
           sai●h
           the
           Spirit
           ,
           that
           they
           may
           rest
           from
           their
           Labours
           ;
           and
           their
           Works
           do
           follow
           them
           ,
           
             Rev.
             14.
             13.
             
          
        
         
           London
           ,
           Printed
           ,
           and
           Sold
           by
           
             T.
             Sowle
          
           at
           the
           Crooked-Billet
           ,
           in
           
             Holywell
             Lane
          
           ,
           in
           Shoreditch
           ,
           1692.
           
        
      
    
     
       
         
         
         
         
           Something
           by
           way
           of
           Testimony
           concerning
           ,
           
             Clement
             Lake
          
           .
        
         
           THis
           is
           that
           we
           have
           to
           say
           concerning
           our
           Deceased
           Friend
           ,
           
             Clement
             Lake
          
           ,
           of
           Crediton
           ;
           He
           was
           a
           Man
           of
           an
           Innocent
           upright
           Life
           &
           Conversation
           ,
           very
           Tender
           Heared
           and
           affectionate
           towards
           the
           Truth
           ,
           and
           them
           that
           walked
           in
           it
           ;
           He
           at
           first
           received
           Truth
           in
           the
           love
           of
           it
           ,
           and
           continued
           to
           the
           end
           Faithful
           to
           its
           Testimony
           through
           all
           the
           Exercises
           he
           met
           with
           ;
           for
           in
           the
           time
           of
           his
           Convincement
           he
           met
           with
           no
           small
           Opposition
           and
           Exercise
           from
           and
           by
           the
           Wife
           of
           his
           own
           Bosom
           ,
           and
           also
           suffered
           Imprisonment
           with
           Friends
           for
           the
           Testimony
           of
           Truth
           ,
           all
           which
           he
           bore
           with
           Patience
           and
           Meekness
           ,
           in
           a
           humble
           mind
           submited
           unto
           God's
           Will
           ;
           and
           in
           due
           time
           it
           pleased
           God
           through
           the
           Spirit
           of
           the
           Lamb
           to
           give
           him
           the
           Victory
           and
           Dominion
           over
           that
           which
           stood
           in
           his
           way
           :
           he
           was
           diligent
           in
           frequenting
           Friends
           Meetings
           to
           wait
           upon
           God
           ,
           though
           outwardly
           a
           man
           attended
           with
           much
           weakness
           ,
           and
           infirmness
           of
           Body
           ,
           and
           many
           times
           being
           filled
           with
           a
           deep
           sence
           of
           the
           Love
           of
           God
           unto
           his
           Soul
           ,
           and
           his
           Heart
           tendered
           and
           broken
           thereby
           ,
           his
           Mouth
           was
           opened
           to
           Magnifie
           and
           Praise
           the
           Lord
           ,
           and
           tell
           by
           experience
           of
           the
           Goodness
           of
           God
           unto
           his
           Soul
           ;
           In
           short
           ,
           we
           are
           generally
           well
           Satisfied
           concerning
           him
           ,
           that
           he
           was
           a
           man
           that
           did
           truly
           Fear
           God
           ,
           loved
           Truth
           and
           Righteousness
           ,
           bore
           a
           Faithful
           Testimony
           until
           death
           ;
           his
           Conversation
           was
           a
           good
           savour
           to
           all
           in
           his
           day
           ;
           and
           now
           being
           removed
           from
           us
           ,
           we
           believe
           it
           s
           well
           with
           him
           ,
           and
           he
           hath
           his
           reward
           ,
           viz.
           The
           Crown
           of
           Life
           and
           Peace
           ,
           and
           is
           at
           rest
           in
           the
           Lord.
           
        
         
           
             John
             Colsworthy
             ,
             Robert
             Ellis
             ,
             Peter
             Richards
             ,
             Robert
             Ford.
             
          
        
      
       
         
         
           The
           Testimony
           of
           
             Phillip
             Dicker
          
           ,
           Concerning
           
             Clement
             Lake
          
           .
        
         
           A
           True
           Testimony
           and
           Account
           concerning
           the
           Life
           and
           blessed
           End
           of
           that
           Faithful
           Servant
           of
           the
           Lord
           
             Clement
             Lake
          
           ;
           This
           I
           can
           truly
           say
           from
           a
           sence
           I
           had
           of
           him
           ,
           that
           I
           believe
           he
           was
           one
           whose
           Meditation
           was
           on
           the
           Lord
           ,
           Day
           and
           Night
           ,
           for
           since
           I
           have
           been
           concerned
           to
           bear
           a
           Testimony
           for
           the
           Lord
           ,
           I
           have
           had
           great
           Society
           with
           him
           ;
           I
           have
           considered
           his
           solemn
           Carriage
           and
           weighty
           behaviour
           when
           he
           was
           in
           the
           Body
           and
           I
           have
           heard
           him
           speak
           of
           the
           many
           straights
           and
           conditions
           he
           had
           been
           in
           since
           first
           he
           believed
           that
           God
           did
           expect
           Worship
           and
           Service
           from
           him
           .
        
         
           And
           further
           ,
           I
           have
           this
           to
           say
           of
           our
           Friend
           
             Clement
             Lake
          
           ,
           Deceased
           ,
           that
           he
           was
           a
           Man
           wholly
           given
           up
           to
           answer
           the
           Mind
           and
           Will
           of
           the
           Lord
           ;
           for
           I
           can
           truly
           say
           from
           a
           certain
           sence
           I
           had
           of
           him
           ,
           that
           his
           Conversation
           was
           Heavenly
           ,
           and
           that
           the
           Lord
           hath
           made
           his
           promise
           good
           unto
           him
           ,
           as
           he
           did
           unto
           the
           Righteous
           in
           all
           Ages
           ,
           and
           through
           the
           Faithfulness
           of
           him
           that
           hath
           promised
           ,
           we
           are
           made
           as
           Witnesses
           of
           it
           ,
           that
           his
           promise
           is
           fulfiled
           in
           us
           ,
           by
           the
           Spirit
           of
           his
           dear
           Son
           Jesus
           Christ
           our
           Lord
           and
           Master
           ,
           for
           so
           he
           is
           .
           And
           I
           being
           with
           
             C.
             L.
          
           and
           having
           had
           a
           certain
           knowledge
           that
           the
           Lord's
           Goodness
           lasted
           with
           him
           ,
           and
           he
           in
           it
           unto
           the
           end
           of
           his
           Dayes
           ,
           for
           which
           we
           can
           do
           no
           less
           then
           to
           return
           the
           Praise
           ,
           Glory
           and
           Honour
           that
           is
           due
           unto
           the
           Lord
           ,
           for
           his
           Mercy
           and
           Goodness
           bestowed
           upon
           his
           People
           .
           So
           he
           dyed
           the
           Death
           of
           the
           Righteous
           ,
           and
           hath
           received
           the
           Reward
           of
           the
           Faithful
           .
        
         
           
             Phillip
             Dicker
             .
          
        
      
       
         
         
           The
           Testimony
           that
           I
           have
           to
           bare
           for
           my
           Dear
           Husband
           ,
           
             Clement
             Lake
          
           (
           deceased
           )
           is
           as
           followeth
           ;
        
         
           HE
           was
           a
           Man
           endued
           with
           much
           Faith
           and
           Patience
           ,
           tender
           of
           the
           Honour
           of
           the
           Name
           of
           the
           Lord
           ,
           and
           Zealous
           for
           his
           Truth
           and
           Worship
           ,
           and
           a
           good
           Patern
           and
           Example
           in
           his
           Family
           ,
           often
           exhorting
           me
           ,
           his
           Children
           and
           Servants
           in
           wighty
           sayings
           ,
           touching
           the
           good
           and
           wellfare
           of
           our
           Souls
           ,
           telling
           us
           ,
           that
           if
           we
           perished
           he
           was
           clear
           of
           our
           Blood
           ;
           and
           since
           his
           Death
           several
           of
           my
           Neighbours
           have
           born
           this
           Testimony
           of
           him
           to
           me
           ,
           that
           they
           never
           were
           in
           company
           with
           him
           but
           they
           received
           Benefit
           by
           it
           ;
           and
           farther
           ,
           I
           bare
           Testimony
           of
           him
           ,
           though
           often
           attended
           with
           much
           weakness
           of
           Body
           ,
           yet
           he
           was
           very
           chearful
           under
           it
           ,
           many
           times
           Declaring
           the
           Goodness
           and
           Love
           of
           God
           towards
           him
           ,
           from
           time
           to
           time
           ,
           in
           the
           many
           Exercises
           and
           Tryals
           he
           went
           through
           in
           baring
           his
           Testimony
           for
           the
           Truth
           ,
           in
           the
           Town
           of
           Crediton
           ,
           (
           in
           Devonshire
           )
           where
           he
           lived
           ,
           and
           elsewhere
           ;
           and
           further
           ,
           he
           was
           a
           man
           of
           a
           clean
           Conversation
           ,
           his
           very
           Enemies
           have
           since
           his
           Death
           spoken
           well
           of
           him
           ,
           and
           confessed
           they
           believed
           he
           is
           happy
           ;
           and
           further
           ,
           I
           cannot
           well
           be
           clear
           ,
           but
           must
           acknowledge
           ,
           that
           after
           my
           Husband
           was
           Convinced
           of
           the
           Blessed
           Truth
           ,
           through
           the
           many
           Instigations
           of
           those
           whom
           we
           formerly
           were
           in
           fellowship
           with
           ,
           and
           others
           ,
           caused
           me
           to
           grieve
           him
           very
           much
           by
           ill
           demeaning
           my self
           towards
           him
           a
           considerable
           time
           ;
           but
           since
           the
           Lord
           was
           pleased
           to
           open
           my
           
           understanding
           ,
           and
           give
           me
           a
           sight
           and
           sence
           of
           the
           workings
           of
           the
           Enemy
           (
           who
           is
           the
           sower
           of
           discord
           )
           I
           have
           been
           much
           troubled
           ,
           and
           known
           sorrow
           for
           the
           same
           ;
           and
           further
           I
           add
           ,
           it
           was
           the
           great
           Love
           of
           God
           towards
           me
           in
           answering
           the
           desire
           of
           my
           Soul
           ,
           which
           was
           often
           with
           many
           a
           Cry
           and
           Tear
           ,
           that
           he
           would
           shew
           me
           the
           way
           of
           Life
           and
           Salvation
           and
           where
           he
           feeds
           his
           Flock
           and
           causeth
           them
           to
           rest
           at
           Noon
           day
           ;
           and
           since
           the
           Lord
           appeared
           and
           answered
           (
           Blessed
           be
           his
           pure
           holy
           Name
           for
           evermore
           )
           we
           lived
           in
           great
           Unity
           ,
           Love
           and
           Fellowship
           ,
           to
           the
           Comfort
           one
           of
           another
           .
           Ah
           ,
           but
           at
           length
           he
           was
           visited
           with
           a
           strong
           Feaver
           ,
           whereof
           he
           lay
           near
           a
           Week
           and
           ended
           his
           Dayes
           here
           ,
           the
           23d
           of
           the
           12th
           Month
           ,
           1689.
           
           And
           when
           the
           Lord
           was
           pleased
           to
           take
           him
           from
           me
           ,
           it
           was
           I
           must
           confess
           ,
           very
           heard
           to
           me
           ,
           considering
           my
           great
           loss
           of
           so
           dear
           and
           tender
           a
           Husband
           as
           he
           was
           to
           me
           ;
           but
           being
           throughly
           perswaded
           and
           satisfied
           in
           my
           Heart
           that
           he
           is
           at
           rest
           with
           the
           Lord
           ,
           I
           am
           satisfied
           in
           the
           Will
           of
           the
           Lord
           ,
           who
           is
           over
           all
           ,
           God
           blessed
           for
           evermore
           ;
           Amen
           ,
           saith
           my
           Soul.
           
        
         
           
             Grace
             Lake
             .
          
        
      
       
         
         
           A
           Letter
           sent
           by
           
             John
             Flavell
          
           ,
           an
           Independent
           Preacher
           at
           Dartmouth
           ,
           in
           Devenshire
           ,
           to
           
             Clement
             Lake
          
           of
           Crediton
           ,
           The
           Second
           day
           of
           the
           Fifth
           Month
           ,
           1687.
           
        
         
           DEar
           Christian
           Friend
           ,
           the
           true
           Christian
           love
           I
           have
           born
           to
           you
           ,
           ever
           since
           I
           came
           acquainted
           with
           you
           ,
           and
           saw
           the
           Grace
           of
           God
           in
           you
           ,
           hath
           engaged
           me
           in
           real
           Tenderness
           to
           your
           Soul
           ,
           to
           give
           you
           this
           Paper
           ,
           if
           happily
           the
           Lord
           may
           thereby
           Confirm
           you
           in
           his
           Truth
           ,
           against
           the
           Soul-destroying
           Errors
           of
           Quakerism
           ;
           I
           am
           perswaded
           if
           the
           Principles
           of
           those
           Men
           were
           but
           truly
           understood
           ,
           and
           the
           consequence
           that
           necessarily
           flow
           from
           them
           ,
           known
           to
           you
           ,
           you
           would
           with
           as
           much
           Satisfaction
           ,
           chuse
           to
           dye
           a
           Martyr
           in
           opposition
           to
           that
           Error
           ,
           as
           the
           Christians
           of
           
             Queen
             Mary's
          
           Dayes
           did
           ,
           against
           
             Romish
             Idolitry
          
           ;
           give
           me
           leave
           to
           say
           plainly
           ,
           a
           Quaker
           cannot
           be
           a
           Christian
           ,
           I
           mean
           a
           Quaker
           that
           knoweth
           and
           defendeth
           the
           Principles
           of
           that
           party
           ,
           and
           I
           can
           confirm
           it
           as
           strongly
           as
           I
           assert
           it
           plainly
           ,
           and
           will
           do
           it
           for
           your
           sake
           ,
           by
           this
           Argument
           ,
           every
           part
           and
           Branch
           whereof
           I
           am
           fully
           satisfied
           in
           .
        
         
           If
           Quakerism
           Subvert
           the
           Fundamental
           and
           Essential
           Articles
           of
           the
           Christian
           Religion
           ,
           then
           no
           Quaker
           that
           understands
           and
           professeth
           the
           Principles
           of
           Quakerism
           ,
           can
           be
           a
           Christian
           ,
           But
           it
           doth
           so
           as
           will
           presently
           appear
           ;
           For
           :
        
         
           1.
           
           They
           Deny
           the
           Existance
           of
           the
           Human
           Nature
           ,
           and
           Satisfaction
           of
           the
           Blood
           of
           Christ.
           
        
         
         
           2.
           
           They
           Deny
           the
           Imputed
           Righteousness
           of
           Christ
           ,
           as
           the
           matter
           of
           our
           Justification
           .
        
         
           3.
           
           They
           Deny
           the
           Resurrection
           of
           the
           Body
           ,
           and
           its
           Partisipation
           of
           Glory
           with
           the
           Soul.
           
        
         
           4.
           
           They
           lead
           Men
           to
           the
           Covenant
           of
           Works
           ,
           and
           Obedience
           to
           the
           Light
           within
           for
           Salvation
           .
        
         
           All
           these
           are
           there
           real
           Opinions
           ,
           let
           them
           dissemble
           ,
           and
           hide
           themselves
           never
           so
           Cunningly
           ,
           I
           can
           prove
           it
           out
           of
           their
           own
           wicked
           Pamphlets
           ,
           I
           have
           had
           it
           from
           there
           own
           Mouths
           ,
           and
           that
           often
           ;
           and
           to
           satisfie
           you
           of
           the
           truth
           of
           what
           I
           charge
           them
           ,
           if
           you
           will
           but
           conseal
           the
           Paper
           from
           them
           ,
           and
           ask
           any
           of
           their
           Leaders
           your self
           ,
           so
           as
           they
           apprehend
           not
           your
           design
           ,
           these
           Questions
           you
           shall
           find
           the
           Charge
           Just
           and
           Real
           against
           them
           ;
           take
           a
           fit
           Season
           ,
           and
           Demand
           thus
           .
        
         
           1.
           
           Are
           we
           Justified
           and
           Saved
           by
           that
           very
           Blood
           of
           Christ
           that
           was
           shed
           at
           Jerusalem
           ,
           or
           by
           some
           other
           means
           then
           by
           the
           Blood
           of
           the
           Man
           Christ
           Jesus
           ?
        
         
           2.
           
           Is
           Jesus
           Christ
           now
           in
           Heaven
           in
           a
           true
           and
           real
           Body
           of
           Flesh
           and
           Blood
           ?
           Or
           is
           he
           not
           ?
        
         
           3.
           
           Is
           the
           Active
           and
           Passive
           Obedience
           ,
           which
           Christ
           performed
           here
           on
           Earth
           ,
           in
           the
           dayes
           of
           his
           Flesh
           ,
           the
           matter
           of
           our
           Righteousness
           before
           God
           ?
           Or
           is
           it
           something
           in
           our selves
           ?
        
         
           4.
           
           Shall
           these
           very
           Bodys
           of
           Flesh
           and
           Blood
           rise
           again
           at
           the
           last
           Day
           ,
           and
           be
           glorified
           with
           the
           Souls
           ,
           and
           remain
           Human
           Bodys
           still
           ,
           for
           Substance
           ,
           though
           glorified
           Bodys
           for
           qualities
           ?
           Or
           what
           shall
           become
           of
           them
           ?
        
         
           5.
           
           Must
           we
           expect
           Salvation
           by
           believing
           in
           Christ
           for
           Righteousness
           ,
           and
           applying
           his
           Righteousness
           to
           our
           Souls
           by
           Faith
           ?
           or
           must
           we
           expect
           it
           by
           Obedience
           to
           the
           Light
           within
           us
           ?
        
         
           This
           being
           done
           discretly
           ,
           so
           as
           that
           they
           see
           you
           do
           for
           Satisfaction
           ,
           and
           not
           to
           intangle
           them
           ,
           I
           am
           confident
           you
           will
           find
           to
           your
           Sorrow
           ,
           that
           I
           have
           too
           Justly
           charged
           them
           with
           those
           Damnable
           Errors
           ,
           and
           then
           the
           Snare
           is
           broken
           ,
           and
           
           your
           Soul
           escaped
           ;
           But
           you
           must
           have
           a
           care
           of
           there
           deceitful
           Answers
           ,
           and
           hold
           them
           close
           to
           the
           words
           of
           each
           Question
           ,
           else
           they
           will
           hide
           the
           hook
           in
           general
           and
           plausable
           answers
           .
        
         
           But
           it
           were
           better
           for
           you
           to
           converse
           on
           these
           points
           with
           sound
           and
           sollid
           Christians
           ,
           that
           know
           their
           Principles
           ,
           then
           trust
           your self
           amongst
           them
           ;
           but
           if
           you
           must
           ,
           I
           doubt
           not
           but
           by
           a
           discreet
           management
           you
           may
           have
           it
           from
           the
           Mouthes
           of
           their
           chief
           Leaders
           ;
           the
           Lord
           keep
           your
           Soul
           in
           his
           Truth
           ;
           remember
           there
           are
           damnable
           Errors
           ,
           
             2
             Peter
             2.
             5.
          
           as
           well
           as
           Practices
           Give
           me
           a
           few
           Lines
           that
           may
           rejoyce
           ,
           and
           comfort
           my
           Heart
           concerning
           you
           ,
           for
           my
           love
           to
           you
           makes
           me
           Jealous
           over
           you
           .
           I
           Remain
           yours
           in
           Jesus
           Christ
           our
           Hope
           ,
        
         
           
             John
             Flavell
             .
          
        
      
       
         
         
           
             Clement
             Lakes
          
           Answer
           to
           the
           foregoing
           Letter
           .
        
         
           I
           Have
           considered
           thy
           Letter
           ,
           and
           the
           high
           Charges
           in
           it
           ;
           and
           to
           begin
           with
           the
           first
           .
        
         
           First
           ,
           
             That
             they
             deny
             the
             Existans
             of
             the
             Humane
             Nature
             .
          
        
         
           I
           shall
           ,
           as
           I
           said
           ,
           answer
           in
           Scripture
           Language
           ,
           and
           shall
           take
           heed
           of
           Philosophical
           words
           ,
           because
           I
           do
           not
           profess
           my self
           to
           be
           one
           ;
           I
           look
           on
           it
           as
           a
           Just
           and
           reasonable
           thing
           due
           from
           all
           men
           ,
           that
           all
           proposals
           of
           Questions
           to
           others
           about
           there
           Faith
           and
           Believe
           of
           the
           Scriptures
           ,
           should
           be
           in
           Scripture
           Language
           ;
           I
           do
           not
           remember
           that
           ever
           I
           read
           of
           the
           word
           Existaens
           or
           Humane
           in
           all
           the
           Scriptures
           of
           Truth
           ;
           I
           shall
           take
           heed
           according
           to
           the
           Apostle's
           advice
           ,
           of
           vain
           Philosophy
           ,
           and
           shall
           ground
           my
           Faith
           according
           to
           the
           Scriptures
           of
           Truth
           in
           all
           the
           matters
           on
           which
           my
           Salvation
           dependeth
           .
        
         
           I
           believe
           that
           Christ
           is
           glorified
           with
           the
           Father
           ,
           with
           the
           same
           Glory
           he
           had
           before
           the
           World
           was
           ,
           according
           to
           John
           17.
           5.
           and
           1
           Tim.
           3.
           16.
           
           He
           is
           received
           up
           to
           Glory
           ,
           and
           that
           he
           shall
           come
           again
           in
           the
           Glory
           of
           his
           Father
           ,
           with
           his
           Angels
           ,
           Math.
           16.
           27.
           
           And
           that
           he
           is
           sitting
           on
           the
           right
           hand
           of
           Power
           ,
           Mark
           14.
           62.
           
           And
           that
           he
           ascended
           up
           far
           above
           all
           Heavens
           ;
           And
           that
           he
           is
           gone
           into
           Heaven
           ,
           and
           is
           on
           the
           Right
           Hand
           of
           God
           ,
           and
           that
           it
           is
           a
           Glorious
           Body
           ,
           Phil.
           3.
           21.
           
           And
           if
           this
           make
           me
           an
           Heretick
           ,
           for
           believing
           as
           the
           Scripture
           hath
           said
           ,
           I
           shall
           willingly
           bare
           thy
           Judgment
           .
        
         
         
           For
           the
           Second
           part
           of
           it
           ,
           
             That
             they
             deny
             the
             Satisfaction
             of
             the
             Blood
             of
             Christ.
             
          
        
         
           This
           is
           a
           false
           Lying
           Slanderous
           Charge
           ,
           charge
           it
           who
           will
           ;
           for
           my
           part
           ,
           according
           to
           what
           I
           have
           heard
           and
           seen
           since
           acquainted
           with
           them
           ,
           of
           all
           the
           sorts
           of
           Professors
           that
           I
           have
           been
           conversant
           with
           ,
           I
           have
           not
           known
           any
           to
           have
           a
           greater
           Esteem
           for
           ,
           and
           put
           a
           greater
           value
           on
           the
           Blood
           of
           the
           Lord
           Jesus
           Christ
           ,
           then
           those
           do
           that
           are
           thus
           charged
           ;
           and
           indeed
           it
           is
           no
           wonder
           that
           they
           thus
           value
           it
           ,
           seeing
           a
           remnant
           have
           experienced
           such
           unexpressable
           vertue
           from
           it
           ,
           and
           benefit
           by
           it
           .
        
         
           As
           for
           my
           part
           ,
           I
           believe
           Salvation
           in
           no
           other
           and
           out
           of
           him
           there
           is
           none
           ;
           and
           I
           believe
           ,
           and
           know
           it
           is
           the
           Faith
           of
           those
           with
           whom
           I
           walk
           ,
           according
           to
           Acts
           4.
           12.
           
           And
           he
           is
           the
           Propitiation
           for
           our
           Sins
           ,
           1
           John
           2.
           2.
           
           And
           he
           hath
           purchased
           us
           with
           his
           own
           Blood
           ,
           Acts
           20.
           28.
           and
           Rom.
           3.
           25.
           and
           by
           him
           we
           have
           Remission
           of
           Sin
           ,
           and
           we
           are
           Justified
           by
           his
           Blood
           ,
           Rom.
           5.
           9.
           
           And
           by
           it
           we
           have
           Eternal
           Redemption
           ,
           Heb.
           9.
           12.
           1
           
           Pet.
           1.
           2.
           
           And
           if
           we
           walk
           in
           the
           Light
           ,
           as
           he
           is
           in
           the
           Light
           ,
           we
           have
           fellowship
           one
           with
           another
           ,
           and
           the
           Blood
           of
           Christ
           cleanseth
           us
           from
           all
           Sin
           :
           And
           what
           the
           difference
           is
           between
           the
           walking
           in
           the
           Light
           ,
           that
           is
           so
           much
           derided
           ,
           and
           walking
           in
           Christ
           ,
           I
           know
           not
           ;
           but
           if
           we
           walk
           in
           him
           the
           Blood
           of
           Jesus
           Christ
           will
           cleanse
           us
           from
           all
           Sin
           ,
           John
           7.
           9.
           
           And
           I
           believe
           not
           only
           from
           the
           guilt
           ,
           but
           from
           the
           filth
           also
           ,
           verse
           9.
           
           And
           I
           believe
           that
           Sanctification
           and
           Justification
           are
           inseparable
           .
        
         
           I
           see
           but
           little
           mention
           made
           in
           thy
           Letter
           of
           the
           cleansing
           vertue
           of
           Christ's
           Blood
           ,
           or
           the
           work
           of
           Regeneration
           that
           must
           be
           wrought
           in
           man
           ,
           or
           the
           new
           Birth
           that
           must
           be
           Experienced
           ,
           or
           no
           entreing
           the
           Kingdom
           of
           Heaven
           ,
           John
           3.
           3.
           
           And
           we
           believe
           ,
           that
           for
           all
           those
           for
           whom
           the
           Blood
           of
           Christ
           maketh
           Satisfaction
           ,
           they
           know
           and
           Experience
           a
           
           
           
           
           
           purging
           of
           their
           Consciences
           from
           dead
           works
           to
           serve
           the
           living
           God
           ;
           and
           this
           a
           Remnant
           have
           found
           and
           can
           speak
           it
           to
           the
           Glory
           of
           our
           God
           ,
           1
           Pet.
           1.
           18
           ,
           19.
           
           They
           know
           Redemption
           from
           a
           vain
           Conversation
           by
           the
           pretious
           Blood
           of
           Christ
           ,
           and
           I
           hope
           that
           this
           is
           also
           clear
           ,
           If
           Scripture
           will
           pass
           ,
           and
           I
           be
           believed
           ,
           that
           it
           is
           the
           Faith
           of
           those
           called
           Quakers
           .
        
         
           As
           to
           the
           Second
           ,
           that
           
             They
             deny
             the
             Imputed
             Righteousness
             of
             Christ
             ▪
             as
             the
             matter
             of
          
           Our
           Justification
           .
        
         
           Before
           I
           answer
           this
           Question
           ,
           I
           would
           query
           my self
           what
           is
           ment
           by
           Our
           ?
        
         
           Whether
           it
           be
           all
           men
           universally
           ,
           without
           condition
           or
           quallification
           ?
           and
           so
           whether
           Christ
           did
           in
           the
           Body
           of
           his
           Flesh
           ,
           in
           his
           own
           Person
           all
           that
           was
           to
           be
           done
           for
           man
           ?
           or
           whether
           his
           work
           is
           not
           to
           be
           experimentally
           known
           in
           every
           man
           ,
           for
           the
           destruction
           of
           Sin
           ,
           and
           the
           work
           of
           Sanctification
           ,
           by
           all
           that
           shall
           have
           the
           benefit
           of
           his
           imputed
           Righteousness
           ,
           yea
           or
           nay
           ?
        
         
           For
           my
           part
           this
           is
           my
           Faith
           ,
           that
           he
           is
           a
           blessed
           Man
           to
           whom
           the
           Lord
           imputeth
           Righteousness
           ,
           and
           to
           whom
           the
           Lord
           will
           not
           Impute
           Sin
           ,
           Rom.
           4.
           6
           ,
           7
           ,
           8.
           
           But
           I
           believe
           also
           ,
           that
           those
           Souls
           that
           are
           in
           this
           Ble●ed
           State
           ,
           do
           know
           and
           Experience
           a
           work
           of
           Sanctification
           wrought
           in
           them
           ,
           and
           the
           destruction
           of
           Sin
           wrought
           for
           them
           ,
           and
           Redemption
           from
           Sin
           ,
           all
           wrought
           by
           the
           same
           Lord
           Jesus
           Christ
           for
           all
           those
           that
           believe
           in
           his
           Name
           and
           Power
           ,
           1
           Cor.
           1.
           30.
           
           And
           he
           was
           also
           made
           manifest
           for
           the
           destruction
           of
           the
           works
           of
           the
           Devil
           ,
           1
           John
           3.
           8.
           
           And
           where
           this
           work
           is
           wrought
           for
           man
           ,
           and
           in
           man
           ,
           the
           fruit
           of
           the
           Spirit
           is
           brought
           forth
           ,
           according
           to
           Gal.
           5.
           22.
           
           And
           this
           also
           is
           my
           Faith
           ,
           that
           they
           also
           know
           the
           old
           man
           to
           be
           Crucified
           ,
           that
           the
           Body
           of
           Sin
           may
           be
           destroyed
           ,
           that
           henceforth
           they
           may
           not
           serve
           Sin
           ;
           and
           so
           know
           a
           washing
           and
           a
           sanctifying
           ,
           before
           
           they
           know
           themselves
           to
           be
           Justified
           ,
           1
           Cor.
           6.
           11.
           
           And
           those
           shall
           have
           the
           Righteousness
           of
           Christ
           imputed
           to
           them
           .
        
         
           Thirdly
           ,
           That
           
             they
             deny
             the
             Resurrection
             of
             the
             Body
             ,
             and
             its
             Partisipation
             of
             Glory
             with
             the
             Soul.
             
          
        
         
           This
           is
           another
           false
           Charge
           ;
           we
           believe
           the
           Resurrection
           of
           the
           Body
           ,
           that
           the
           dead
           shall
           be
           raised
           up
           incorruptably
           ,
           1
           Cor.
           15.
           52.
           
           And
           we
           believe
           the
           Resurrection
           of
           the
           dead
           both
           of
           the
           Just
           and
           Unjust
           ,
           Acts
           24.
           15.
           
           And
           that
           those
           vile
           Bodys
           shall
           be
           made
           like
           to
           his
           Glorious
           Body
           ,
           Phil
           3.
           21.
           
           And
           we
           believe
           that
           all
           that
           are
           in
           the
           Grave
           shall
           come
           forth
           ,
           they
           that
           have
           done
           well
           to
           the
           Resurrection
           of
           Life
           ,
           and
           they
           that
           have
           done
           Evil
           ,
           to
           the
           Resurrection
           of
           Damnation
           ,
           John
           5.
           28.
           29.
           
           And
           those
           that
           are
           guided
           by
           the
           Counsel
           of
           the
           Lord
           ,
           and
           follow
           it
           here
           ,
           shall
           be
           received
           up
           to
           Glory
           Psal.
           73.
           24
           
           And
           that
           we
           shall
           be
           glorified
           to
           gather
           with
           the
           Lord
           ,
           Rom.
           8.
           17.
           18.
           
           And
           we
           believe
           that
           those
           that
           follow
           Christ
           in
           the
           Regeneration
           deny
           themselves
           ,
           and
           take
           up
           the
           Cross
           ,
           shall
           Inherit
           Eternal
           Life
           ,
           Math.
           19.
           28
           ,
           29.
           
           And
           we
           believe
           also
           ,
           that
           the
           end
           of
           those
           that
           are
           Enemies
           to
           the
           Cross
           of
           Christ
           ,
           will
           be
           destruction
           ,
           Phil.
           3.
           18
           ,
           19.
           
        
         
           Fourthly
           ,
           
             That
             they
             lead
             Men
             to
             the
             Covenant
             of
             Works
             ,
             and
             Obedience
             to
             the
             Light
             within
             .
          
        
         
           This
           is
           a
           Slander
           ,
           cast
           out
           of
           the
           Mouth
           of
           the
           old
           Dragon
           like
           a
           Flood
           ,
           to
           prejudice
           the
           World
           ,
           and
           spread
           by
           his
           Agents
           ;
           what
           ground
           Men
           have
           for
           this
           Charge
           I
           know
           not
           ,
           except
           it
           be
           for
           pressing
           People
           to
           the
           Mortification
           of
           Sin
           by
           the
           Power
           of
           the
           Lord
           ,
           denying
           of
           self
           ,
           Crucifying
           of
           the
           Flesh
           ,
           with
           the
           Affection
           and
           Lust
           thereof
           ,
           and
           tak●ng
           up
           the
           Cross
           and
           following
           of
           Christ
           ,
           who
           is
           our
           Way
           ,
           Truth
           and
           Life
           ,
           out
           of
           whom
           we
           believe
           there
           is
           no
           Salvation
           from
           Sin
           or
           Wrath
           :
           No
           Name
           or
           Power
           given
           under
           Heaven
           whereby
           any
           Soul
           can
           be
           saved
           ,
           but
           
           Jesus
           Christ
           ;
           He
           is
           our
           all
           in
           all
           ,
           and
           man
           is
           nothing
           ,
           neither
           can
           do
           any
           thing
           as
           to
           his
           own
           Salvation
           ;
           for
           without
           him
           we
           can
           do
           nothing
           ,
           it
           is
           he
           that
           worketh
           both
           to
           will
           and
           to
           do
           of
           his
           own
           good
           Pleasure
           :
           And
           to
           as
           many
           as
           receive
           him
           ,
           to
           them
           he
           giveth
           Power
           to
           become
           the
           Sons
           of
           God
           ,
           even
           to
           them
           that
           believe
           in
           his
           Name
           ,
           which
           Faith
           also
           is
           the
           Gift
           of
           God.
           It
           would
           be
           thought
           hard
           measure
           from
           us
           if
           we
           should
           say
           ,
           that
           because
           no
           mention
           is
           made
           in
           all
           thy
           Letter
           ,
           of
           any
           thing
           that
           is
           to
           be
           wrought
           in
           man
           ,
           or
           done
           by
           man
           ,
           as
           a
           Quallification
           of
           those
           that
           shall
           partake
           of
           those
           benefits
           by
           Christ
           ,
           that
           therefore
           you
           do
           believe
           that
           Men
           may
           partake
           of
           them
           ,
           and
           yet
           do
           what
           they
           will
           ,
           and
           live
           as
           they
           list
           ,
           tho
           we
           have
           as
           great
           a
           ground
           for
           it
           ,
           as
           any
           have
           for
           charging
           us
           to
           lead
           Men
           to
           the
           Covenant
           of
           Works
           .
        
         
           For
           the
           Second
           part
           of
           the
           Charge
           ,
           
             That
             they
             lead
             Men
             to
             Obedience
             to
             the
             Light
             within
             for
             Salvation
             .
          
        
         
           This
           I
           will
           say
           ,
           that
           Rebellion
           is
           as
           the
           Sin
           of
           Witch-craft
           ,
           and
           Stubbernness
           is
           as
           Idolatry
           ,
           and
           that
           without
           Obedience
           there
           will
           be
           no
           eating
           the
           Fat
           of
           the
           promised
           Land.
           And
           for
           the
           Light
           within
           so
           much
           despised
           by
           the
           dark
           Rabbies
           of
           the
           World
           ,
           this
           Light
           of
           Israel
           shall
           be
           for
           a
           Fire
           ,
           and
           his
           Holy
           One
           for
           a
           Flame
           ,
           that
           shall
           burn
           and
           devour
           the
           Thorns
           in
           one
           day
           ,
           Esa.
           01.
           17.
           
           And
           that
           we
           press
           Obedience
           to
           the
           Light
           within
           ,
           we
           own
           ,
           who
           is
           Jesus
           Christ
           the
           Light
           of
           Israel
           ,
           the
           Light
           of
           the
           World
           ,
           who
           is
           given
           to
           be
           a
           Covenant
           to
           the
           People
           ,
           and
           a
           Light
           to
           the
           Gentiles
           ,
           to
           open
           the
           Blind
           Eyes
           ,
           Esa.
           42.
           6
           ,
           7.
           
           This
           was
           David's
           Light
           to
           his
           Feet
           ,
           and
           Lanthorn
           to
           his
           Paths
           ,
           Psa.
           119.
           vers
           .
           115.
           
           And
           this
           word
           ,
           or
           Light
           ,
           or
           Jesus
           was
           in
           the
           beginning
           ;
           and
           in
           him
           was
           Life
           ,
           and
           the
           Life
           was
           the
           Light
           of
           men
           ,
           1
           John
           8.
           
           And
           this
           beginning
           he
           is
           our
           Light
           and
           Life
           ,
           and
           he
           it
           is
           that
           expels
           the
           Darkness
           out
           of
           the
           Heart
           ;
           and
           those
           that
           are
           Obedient
           to
           him
           are
           called
           the
           Children
           of
           Light
           ,
           Ephes.
           
           5.
           8.
           
           And
           it
           is
           by
           this
           Jesus
           Christ
           ,
           who
           is
           the
           Wisdom
           and
           Power
           of
           God
           ,
           the
           Light
           that
           maketh
           manifest
           all
           things
           as
           they
           are
           ,
           that
           bringeth
           down
           every
           Imagination
           in
           man
           that
           exalteth
           it self
           against
           the
           Lord
           ,
           and
           bringeth
           every
           thought
           into
           Obedience
           to
           himself
           ;
           he
           it
           is
           that
           is
           the
           author
           of
           Eternal
           Life
           to
           all
           that
           obey
           him
           ,
           Hebrew
           5.
           8.
           and
           1
           Pet.
           1.
           2.
           
           And
           that
           he
           is
           within
           ,
           and
           dwelleth
           in
           the
           Saints
           ,
           we
           own
           it
           ,
           tho
           for
           owning
           it
           we
           are
           an
           Abomination
           to
           the
           Egyptians
           ,
           2
           Cor.
           13.
           5.
           
           Are
           not
           the
           Saints
           the
           Temple
           of
           God
           ?
           And
           doth
           he
           not
           dwell
           in
           his
           Temple
           ?
           And
           is
           it
           not
           in
           the
           Heart
           ?
           And
           is
           not
           the
           Heart
           within
           ?
           And
           is
           not
           his
           Throne
           there
           ?
           And
           is
           it
           not
           there
           he
           giveth
           in
           those
           sweet
           and
           blessed
           Comforts
           to
           his
           People
           ?
           And
           is
           it
           not
           there
           he
           poureth
           out
           his
           Wrath
           on
           the
           Wicked
           ?
           And
           is
           it
           not
           in
           the
           Heart
           that
           he
           is
           striving
           with
           the
           Children
           of
           Men
           ,
           to
           reclaim
           them
           by
           his
           motions
           ?
           And
           Mens
           Disobedience
           to
           it
           is
           a
           grieving
           of
           him
           ,
           and
           rebelling
           against
           him
           ,
           1.
           
           Thes.
           5.
           19.
           
           And
           it
           seemeth
           to
           me
           ,
           that
           any
           man
           that
           hath
           Reason
           or
           Religion
           ,
           should
           be
           satisfied
           with
           this
           account
           ,
           unless
           those
           that
           will
           Unchristian
           others
           that
           they
           might
           be
           thought
           the
           best
           Christians
           themselves
           ,
           and
           bespatter
           others
           that
           themselves
           might
           shine
           .
           And
           So
           I
           have
           answered
           the
           first
           four
           Charges
           ,
           and
           if
           I
           am
           besides
           the
           Truth
           ,
           I
           desire
           it
           may
           be
           manifested
           to
           me
           in
           a
           few
           Lines
           .
        
         
           I
           look
           on
           it
           as
           a
           Just
           and
           Reasonable
           thing
           ,
           that
           before
           any
           Man
           Unchristian
           another
           ,
           that
           first
           they
           prove
           there
           own
           Position
           to
           be
           according
           to
           Truth
           .
        
         
           And
           Secondly
           ,
           that
           they
           prove
           those
           Persons
           guilty
           of
           denying
           those
           Truths
           ,
           for
           which
           they
           Unchristian
           them
           ,
           which
           neither
           is
           done
           in
           thy
           Letter
           ,
           but
           by
           a
           bare
           say
           so
           ,
           as
           if
           it
           must
           be
           true
           because
           it
           is
           said
           ,
           and
           said
           by
           such
           a
           one
           ;
           but
           it
           is
           no
           new
           thing
           ,
           such
           there
           were
           in
           the
           dayes
           of
           old
           ,
           Rev.
           2.
           9.
           
           But
           he
           that
           hath
           the
           Key
           of
           David
           hath
           opened
           a
           
           Door
           to
           us
           ,
           that
           no
           man
           can
           shut
           ,
           and
           by
           this
           little
           strength
           we
           have
           kept
           his
           word
           ,
           and
           have
           not
           denyed
           his
           Name
           ,
           Rev.
           3.
           8
           ,
           9.
           
           For
           which
           the
           People
           are
           angry
           that
           we
           do
           not
           as
           they
           have
           done
           :
           And
           nothing
           less
           then
           to
           Unchristian
           us
           will
           serve
           .
           But
           what
           if
           the
           day
           should
           come
           that
           you
           should
           acknowledge
           the
           Lord
           hath
           loved
           us
           ?
           sure
           it
           would
           be
           a
           great
           change
           ?
           I
           shall
           not
           inlarg
           any
           furher
           ,
           to
           speak
           of
           the
           five
           last
           things
           ,
           but
           may
           refer
           them
           until
           I
           have
           the
           answer
           from
           them
           ,
           from
           whom
           it
           is
           expected
           ;
           and
           as
           I
           have
           said
           formerly
           ,
           wherein
           I
           am
           beside
           the
           Truth
           ,
           in
           what
           I
           have
           written
           ,
           let
           it
           be
           signified
           to
           me
           in
           a
           few
           lines
           ,
           who
           am
           a
           well-wisher
           to
           the
           prosperity
           of
           Sion
           ,
           and
           desire
           the
           Good
           of
           all
           men
           ,
        
         
           
             Clement
             Lake
             .
          
        
         
           
             We
             are
             not
             the
             People
             we
             are
             reported
             to
             be
             ,
             for
             we
             are
             falsely
             represented
             to
             the
             World
             ,
             by
             those
             who
             have
             made
             
               Lyes
               there
               refuge
            
             ,
             Esa.
             ●8
             .
             15.
             
             
               And
               under
               falshood
               have
               hid
               themseves
               :
               But
               Judgment
               the
               Lord
               will
               lay
               to
               the
               Line
               ,
               and
               Righteousness
               to
               the
               Plumet
               ,
               and
               the
               Haile
               shall
               sweep
               away
               the
               refuge
               of
               Lyes
               ,
            
             verse
             17.
             
          
        
      
       
         
         
           A
           Second
           Letter
           sent
           to
           me
           from
           
             John
             Flavell
          
           ,
           which
           is
           an
           Answer
           to
           my
           former
           Letter
           ,
           the
           seventh
           of
           the
           eight
           Month
           ,
           1687.
           
        
         
           
             Clement
             Lake
             ,
          
        
         
           I
           Received
           lately
           an
           Answer
           to
           my
           Letter
           ,
           written
           many
           Years
           since
           ,
           to
           preserve
           you
           from
           Quakerism
           ,
           whether
           this
           Answer
           were
           made
           by
           you
           or
           others
           ,
           I
           examine
           not
           ,
           for
           it
           is
           nothing
           to
           the
           purpose
           ;
           our
           point
           is
           not
           what
           you
           believe
           ,
           But
           what
           is
           the
           known
           published
           Doctrine
           of
           the
           Quakers
           ,
           from
           which
           my
           care
           was
           to
           preserve
           you
           ;
           I
           told
           you
           that
           a
           Quaker
           owning
           the
           professed
           Principles
           of
           Quakerism
           ,
           cannot
           be
           a
           Christian
           ,
           and
           instanced
           in
           several
           Fundamental
           Points
           of
           Christian
           Doctrine
           denyed
           by
           them
           ;
           to
           all
           of
           which
           you
           gave
           me
           your
           own
           private
           Judgment
           ,
           in
           Scripture
           terms
           ,
           which
           seemeth
           generally
           sound
           ,
           as
           I
           hope
           you
           still
           remain
           in
           your
           own
           Principles
           :
           But
           what
           is
           this
           to
           the
           Doctrine
           of
           that
           People
           with
           whom
           you
           now
           walk
           ,
           forsaking
           those
           Assemblies
           where
           first
           you
           found
           Christ
           ,
           if
           ever
           you
           found
           him
           ;
           I
           am
           only
           concerned
           to
           prove
           my
           Assertions
           ,
           that
           Quakerism
           overthroweth
           Christianity
           ;
           and
           this
           is
           plain
           by
           what
           followeth
           ,
           which
           I
           take
           not
           up
           upon
           Reports
           at
           Random
           ,
           but
           give
           it
           you
           out
           of
           their
           own
           printed
           Discourses
           .
        
         
         
           First
           ,
           He
           cannot
           be
           a
           Christian
           that
           rejects
           the
           Scripture
           as
           a
           Rule
           ;
           But
           so
           do
           the
           Quakers
           ,
           Toldervy
           in
           his
           Book
           ,
           page
           6.
           saith
           ,
           
             That
             searching
             the
             Scriptures
             is
             not
             the
             way
             to
             find
             out
             the
             mind
             of
             Christ
             ;
             but
             the
             turning
             of
             the
             mind
             to
             within
             .
          
           One
           Mason
           in
           his
           defence
           of
           Cravon
           ,
           page
           12.
           saith
           ,
           Did
           Paul
           
             or
             any
             of
             the
             Apostles
             walk
             by
             any
             letteral
             rule
             ?
             or
             was
             not
             their
             rules
             a
             measure
             of
             the
             Spirit
             of
             God
             committed
             to
             every
             one
             of
             them
             ?
          
           Nayler
           in
           his
           Book
           against
           
             ●ohn
             Rayner
          
           ,
           speaks
           thus
           of
           us
           ,
           who
           differ
           from
           him
           ,
           
             Their
             Law
             is
             without
             ;
             their
             Light
             without
             ,
             their
             Church
             without
             ,
             all
             which
             we
             witness
             to
             be
             within
          
           ;
           Farwell
           then
           say
           I
           to
           the
           written
           word
           .
        
         
           Secondly
           ,
           He
           cannot
           be
           a
           Christian
           that
           affirmeth
           Perfection
           ,
           and
           Freedom
           from
           Sin
           on
           this
           side
           Heaven
           ,
           
             1
             John
             1.
             8.
          
           
           This
           hath
           been
           often
           asserted
           in
           my
           hearing
           by
           the
           Quakers
           ,
           and
           is
           Printed
           by
           Mason
           ,
           in
           page
           3.
           of
           his
           Book
           ,
           quoted
           from
           Ephes.
           
             4.
             12.
          
           
           Concluding
           thus
           ,
           
             Were
             England's
             Blind
             Watch-men
             Commissioned
             from
             Christ
             ,
             they
             would
             not
             thus
             prate
             against
             Perfection
             .
          
        
         
           Thirdly
           ,
           He
           cannot
           be
           a
           Christian
           that
           maketh
           no
           distiction
           between
           the
           Godly
           ,
           and
           the
           Ungodly
           ,
           but
           doth
           affirm
           that
           Christ
           enlightens
           every
           man
           that
           cometh
           into
           the
           World
           ,
           with
           a
           saving
           Light
           ;
           but
           so
           did
           
             John
             Stubs
             ,
             George
             Fox
          
           ,
           and
           many
           others
           affirm
           it
           ,
           and
           defend
           it
           in
           a
           set
           dispute
           with
           
             Mr.
             Wiggon
          
           in
           the
           Printed
           dispute
           ,
           Page
           13.
           
           Labouring
           to
           prove
           
             that
             every
             man
             in
             the
             World
             hath
             the
             Spirit
             of
             Christ
             savingly
             in
             him
             ,
          
           from
           
             1
             Cor.
             12.
             7.
          
           
           If
           so
           ,
           we
           must
           alter
           the
           whole
           frame
           of
           cripture
           and
           
             Christian
             Religion
          
           .
           And
           as
           to
           Christ's
           imputed
           Righteousness
           ,
           how
           slighting
           doth
           Nayler
           ,
           
           speak
           of
           it
           ,
           as
           a
           Doctrine
           of
           ours
           ,
           Page
           20.
           of
           his
           Book
           ;
           but
           I
           need
           go
           no
           farther
           ;
           I
           could
           instance
           in
           many
           great
           points
           more
           ,
           as
           that
           of
           the
           Resurrection
           of
           the
           Body
           ,
           which
           hath
           been
           once
           and
           again
           denyed
           by
           the
           Quakers
           to
           my
           Face
           ,
           and
           that
           with
           scorne
           and
           contempt
           of
           my
           ignorance
           ,
           for
           affirming
           it
           ,
           so
           that
           I
           speak
           not
           uncharitably
           or
           untruly
           when
           I
           said
           what
           I
           did
           of
           their
           Opinions
           .
        
         
           It
           may
           be
           you
           will
           say
           these
           were
           But
           perticular
           Persons
           ,
           and
           you
           reject
           there
           mistakes
           ,
           I
           say
           ,
           they
           were
           the
           leading
           men
           of
           your
           party
           ;
           and
           how
           shall
           we
           know
           your
           Opinions
           but
           from
           there
           Books
           ?
           as
           for
           you
           ,
           I
           pray
           the
           Lord
           would
           preserve
           you
           sound
           in
           the
           faith
           ,
           and
           return
           you
           to
           your
           first
           Love
           ,
           to
           his
           Saints
           and
           Ordinances
           .
           I
           am
           full
           of
           compassion
           for
           your
           Soul
           ,
           and
           remain
           your
           Friend
           ,
        
         
           
             John
             Flavell
             .
          
        
      
       
         
         
           An
           Answer
           to
           
             John
             Flavell's
          
           Second
           Letter
           sent
           1687
           :
           to
           him
           from
           
             Clement
             Lake
          
           of
           Crediton
           in
           Devonshire
           .
        
         
           I
           Received
           thy
           Letter
           ,
           and
           by
           it
           understand
           that
           thou
           hast
           received
           mine
           ,
           which
           thou
           dost
           question
           whether
           made
           by
           me
           or
           others
           ;
           I
           assure
           thee
           that
           no
           other
           but
           my self
           did
           indite
           or
           write
           one
           Line
           or
           passage
           of
           that
           or
           this
           ;
           thou
           tellst
           me
           again
           that
           a
           man
           owning
           the
           professed
           Principles
           of
           Quakers
           can
           not
           be
           a
           Christian
           ;
           and
           that
           thou
           didst
           instance
           in
           several
           Fundamental
           Points
           denyed
           by
           them
           ,
           to
           which
           I
           replyed
           they
           were
           false
           Charges
           ,
           and
           to
           all
           of
           them
           I
           should
           give
           my
           reply
           as
           my
           own
           private
           Judgment
           ,
           which
           was
           seemingly
           sound
           .
        
         
           This
           is
           another
           abuse
           ,
           seeing
           I
           said
           ,
           it
           was
           the
           Faith
           of
           those
           called
           Quakers
           also
           ,
           and
           the
           Faith
           of
           those
           with
           whom
           I
           walked
           .
           But
           it
           seems
           tho
           my
           Answer
           were
           sound
           yet
           not
           very
           Acceptable
           ,
           for
           it
           was
           in
           Scripture
           terms
           .
           It
           is
           true
           ,
           I
           am
           utterly
           against
           it
           that
           Scripture
           should
           bow
           to
           vain
           Philosophy
           ,
           and
           to
           be
           wise
           above
           what
           is
           written
           ,
           and
           also
           it
           seems
           one
           thing
           not
           liked
           ,
           my
           forsakeing
           those
           People
           with
           whom
           I
           have
           walked
           ,
           (
           it
           is
           true
           )
           while
           they
           walked
           I
           walked
           with
           them
           ;
           but
           when
           they
           grew
           weary
           and
           sat
           down
           ,
           must
           I
           be
           blamed
           for
           not
           doing
           as
           they
           did
           ,
           because
           I
           walked
           still
           ,
           and
           that
           by
           the
           Footsteeps
           of
           the
           Flock
           according
           to
           there
           own
           adivce
           ,
           
           and
           cannot
           set
           down
           or
           turn
           back
           ?
           There
           is
           one
           thing
           that
           I
           have
           observed
           of
           the
           like
           nature
           ,
           and
           is
           counted
           rather
           a
           Vertue
           then
           a
           Vice
           in
           others
           (
           which
           is
           this
           )
           in
           the
           time
           when
           the
           Sheepherds
           fled
           ,
           and
           the
           People
           scattered
           ,
           the
           Cross
           of
           Christ
           appearing
           ,
           the
           People
           crept
           in
           under
           the
           Wing
           of
           the
           Church
           of
           England
           for
           shelter
           ,
           I
           do
           not
           say
           to
           avoid
           the
           Cross
           of
           Christ
           ,
           (
           look
           they
           to
           that
           )
           sheltered
           they
           were
           ,
           and
           fed
           too
           ,
           with
           such
           food
           as
           they
           had
           to
           give
           them
           ,
           if
           not
           wholsome
           ,
           why
           did
           they
           use
           it
           ?
           What
           made
           them
           there
           ?
           Why
           did
           their
           Stewards
           permit
           it
           ,
           if
           they
           found
           the
           Bread
           of
           Life
           there
           ?
           Why
           are
           they
           drawn
           off
           again
           ?
           was
           not
           this
           permitted
           by
           thee
           and
           others
           ,
           if
           not
           approved
           ?
           (
           and
           why
           was
           it
           ?
           )
           to
           keep
           the
           Children
           quiet
           ,
           that
           they
           might
           not
           Cry
           for
           Bread
           ,
           when
           the
           Stewards
           would
           not
           give
           them
           any
           ,
           for
           the
           Lyon
           was
           in
           the
           way
           ;
           was
           it
           good
           Bread
           then
           ,
           and
           is
           it
           Husks
           now
           ?
           Now
           they
           will
           feed
           these
           People
           themselves
           ,
           or
           rather
           these
           People
           must
           feed
           them
           ,
           for
           their
           Bread
           now
           yeildeth
           a
           good
           rate
           ,
           and
           if
           they
           will
           not
           come
           up
           to
           the
           price
           ,
           we
           will
           go
           to
           another
           Flock
           :
           Well
           now
           ,
           these
           People
           must
           leave
           those
           with
           whom
           they
           have
           walked
           ,
           and
           be
           blamless
           ,
           but
           blamed
           if
           they
           will
           not
           leave
           them
           ;
           surely
           I
           must
           needs
           say
           that
           they
           all
           dealt
           very
           disingenously
           with
           the
           Church
           of
           England
           ,
           to
           leave
           them
           now
           they
           have
           most
           need
           of
           them
           ,
           as
           I
           have
           told
           many
           to
           there
           Faees
           ,
           and
           not
           only
           so
           ,
           but
           rejoyce
           in
           there
           Ruin
           ,
           which
           is
           an
           ill
           requital
           for
           there
           former
           kindness
           ;
           but
           enough
           of
           that
           .
        
         
           In
           thy
           former
           Letter
           thy
           Charges
           were
           drawn
           ,
           and
           in
           thy
           last
           Letter
           I
           expected
           proof
           of
           what
           was
           then
           Charged
           ,
           but
           I
           have
           failed
           of
           my
           Expectation
           ,
           and
           of
           fare
           dealing
           too
           ,
           for
           the
           first
           Bill
           is
           lost
           ,
           and
           a
           new
           Indictment
           is
           drawn
           up
           ,
           which
           is
           not
           fare
           ;
           it
           yet
           lieth
           on
           thee
           to
           prove
           it
           ,
           or
           bare
           thy
           shame
           .
        
         
         
           In
           thy
           first
           Letter
           we
           were
           Unchristianed
           by
           thy
           false
           Accusation
           and
           lying
           Slanders
           no
           small
           Evil
           for
           a
           Minister
           of
           Christ
           to
           be
           found
           guilty
           of
           ,
           to
           unchristian
           such
           a
           body
           of
           People
           with
           a
           bare
           say
           so
           ,
           it
           is
           a
           Spot
           ,
           but
           not
           of
           God's
           Children
           ,
           they
           are
           Children
           that
           will
           not
           lye
           ;
           and
           it
           hath
           caused
           my
           Heart
           to
           grieve
           that
           such
           a
           one
           as
           thy self
           should
           be
           the
           author
           and
           spreader
           of
           them
           ,
           so
           that
           many
           in
           this
           place
           who
           have
           had
           thy
           Person
           in
           admiration
           ,
           have
           been
           doing
           the
           same
           evil
           Work
           ,
           having
           an
           Implicet
           Faith
           ,
           much
           like
           a
           Generation
           of
           men
           ,
           who
           believe
           as
           the
           Church
           believeth
           ,
           and
           it
           is
           true
           because
           the
           Church
           saith
           it
           ;
           and
           so
           they
           did
           believe
           it
           and
           spread
           it
           because
           thou
           said'st
           it
           .
           But
           now
           the
           Refuge
           of
           Lyes
           is
           sweeping
           away
           ,
           People
           having
           had
           oppertunity
           of
           hearing
           Friends
           ,
           and
           Conversing
           with
           them
           in
           this
           place
           ,
           thy
           Folly
           now
           appeareth
           ,
           and
           thy
           Assertions
           are
           found
           to
           be
           Lyes
           ,
           tho'
           
             John
             Flavell
          
           have
           said
           it
           ,
           
             Hicks
             ,
             Faldoe
          
           and
           others
           ;
           for
           the
           Earth
           is
           lightned
           with
           the
           Glory
           of
           the
           Lord
           ,
           and
           we
           would
           that
           all
           men
           knew
           us
           as
           we
           are
           ,
           and
           then
           let
           them
           judge
           ,
           for
           we
           are
           not
           ashamed
           of
           our
           Principles
           .
        
         
           But
           to
           leave
           the
           first
           ,
           and
           come
           to
           the
           Second
           Charge
           or
           Indictment
           ,
           
             He
             cannot
             be
             a
             Christian
             that
             rejects
             the
             Scripture
             as
             a
             Rule
             .
          
        
         
           But
           what
           I
           have
           yet
           found
           ,
           I
           may
           say
           to
           thee
           as
           Nathan
           to
           David
           ,
           Thou
           art
           the
           Man
           ;
           for
           by
           what
           Rule
           are
           we
           thus
           falsely
           accused
           ,
           and
           abominably
           slandered
           ?
           And
           it
           is
           a
           rare
           thing
           this
           day
           to
           find
           many
           such
           as
           thy self
           to
           Slander
           us
           Ignorantly
           ,
           and
           not
           Malitiously
           .
        
         
           But
           to
           the
           matter
           of
           Fact
           ,
           what
           was
           
           Abel's
           ,
           and
           
           Noah's
           ,
           and
           
           Enoch's
           Rule
           ,
           Leader
           or
           Guide
           ,
           before
           the
           Scriptures
           were
           written
           ?
           was
           it
           not
           the
           Spirit
           of
           God
           ,
           and
           the
           same
           Spirit
           that
           gave
           forth
           the
           Scriptures
           in
           time
           ,
           and
           moved
           the
           holy
           
           men
           of
           Old
           ,
           who
           spake
           as
           the
           Spirit
           gave
           them
           utterance
           ,
           even
           the
           same
           Spirit
           of
           Truth
           that
           Christ
           promised
           should
           be
           given
           to
           his
           Disciples
           ,
           and
           remain
           with
           them
           ,
           and
           lead
           them
           into
           all
           Truth
           ,
           John
           14.
           16
           ,
           17.
           chap.
           16.
           13.
           
           We
           own
           and
           honour
           the
           Scriptures
           above
           all
           other
           Writings
           in
           the
           World
           ,
           and
           they
           are
           profitable
           for
           Doctrine
           ,
           for
           Reproof
           ,
           and
           for
           Correction
           and
           Instruction
           in
           Righteousness
           ,
           2
           Tim.
           16.
           
           We
           own
           we
           are
           not
           of
           the
           same
           mind
           with
           an
           Assembly
           once
           gathered
           ,
           that
           the
           Scriptures
           are
           the
           only
           Rule
           ,
           then
           ●arwell
           to
           the
           Spirit
           of
           God
           say
           I
           :
           We
           do
           believe
           that
           it
           is
           not
           in
           the
           Power
           of
           men
           to
           deprive
           the
           Saints
           of
           their
           Rule
           ,
           Leader
           or
           Guide
           which
           i●
           the
           Spirit
           of
           the
           Lord
           ;
           But
           if
           the
           Scriptures
           be
           the
           only
           Rule
           ,
           then
           it
           is
           possible
           that
           men
           may
           be
           deprived
           of
           their
           Rule
           by
           their
           Enemies
           ;
           Matth.
           11.
           17.
           
           
             No
             man
             knoweth
             the
             Father
             ,
             but
             the
             Son
             ,
             and
             he
             to
             whom
             the
             Son
             shall
             reveal
             him
             .
          
           And
           now
           I
           will
           appeal
           to
           all
           the
           Faithful
           in
           those
           late
           Years
           ,
           when
           their
           Teachers
           fled
           from
           them
           ,
           when
           trouble
           came
           ,
           and
           Preaching
           and
           Hearing
           became
           expensive
           ,
           had
           not
           a
           Remnant
           been
           taught
           of
           God
           ,
           had
           they
           not
           had
           the
           Spirit
           of
           the
           Lord
           to
           lead
           and
           guide
           ,
           and
           instruct
           them
           ,
           what
           had
           become
           of
           them
           ?
           Had
           there
           not
           been
           Springs
           in
           the
           Desert
           ,
           and
           Rivers
           in
           the
           Wilderness
           ,
           streaming
           from
           the
           Lord
           to
           refresh
           those
           distressed
           Souls
           ,
           what
           had
           become
           of
           them
           ?
        
         
           3dly
           ,
           
             He
             cannot
             be
             a
             Christian
             that
             affirmeth
             Perfection
             or
             freedom
             from
             Sin
             on
             this
             side
             Heaven
             .
          
        
         
           How
           is
           the
           Scripture
           rejected
           here
           ,
           and
           made
           to
           bow
           down
           to
           the
           experience
           of
           men
           ?
           who
           are
           taught
           by
           their
           Teachers
           ,
           
             that
             it
             is
             impossible
             to
             have
             the
             Works
             of
             the
             Devil
             destroyed
          
           ;
           and
           so
           make
           void
           Christ's
           Coming
           ,
           when
           something
           there
           is
           that
           cannot
           be
           parted
           with
           ,
           and
           therefore
           a
           Cry
           is
           made
           ,
           damnable
           Doctrine
           to
           have
           Sin
           destroyed
           .
        
         
         
           I
           shall
           first
           lay
           down
           that
           God
           hath
           commanded
           it
           ,
           Gen.
           17.
           7.
           
           
             Walk
             before
             me
             ,
             and
             be
             thou
             perfect
             .
          
           Matth.
           19.
           24.
           
           
             If
             thou
             wilt
             be
             perfect
             ,
             sell
             all
          
           ;
           All
           must
           go
           if
           God
           call
           for
           it
           ,
           or
           no
           Perfection
           ;
           he
           had
           done
           many
           things
           ,
           and
           that
           from
           his
           Youth
           up
           ,
           and
           many
           Sins
           doubtless
           were
           slain
           ,
           and
           the
           man
           dead
           to
           them
           ;
           A
           brave
           Professor
           for
           our
           days
           ;
           but
           one
           thing
           must
           be
           kept
           ,
           a
           Wedge
           of
           Gold
           ,
           a
           Babylonish
           Garment
           ;
           he
           had
           great
           Possessions
           ,
           and
           that
           he
           could
           not
           part
           with
           for
           Treasure
           in
           Heaven
           ,
           the
           pretiousness
           of
           which
           he
           had
           not
           the
           Experience
           of
           by
           Faith
           ,
           and
           this
           made
           him
           go
           away
           sorrowful
           ;
           doubtless
           he
           liked
           not
           the
           Doctrine
           of
           Perfection
           like
           the
           People
           of
           our
           days
           ,
           men
           can
           be
           content
           to
           have
           Drunkenness
           and
           Swearing
           ,
           Murder
           ,
           Theft
           ,
           and
           such
           like
           
           Goliah's
           slain
           ;
           this
           is
           possible
           to
           live
           without
           to
           some
           ,
           and
           cry
           ,
           they
           will
           enough
           against
           those
           that
           will
           not
           ,
           and
           well
           worthy
           :
           But
           what
           Sin
           is
           it
           I
           would
           fain
           know
           that
           the
           Lord
           cannot
           ,
           yea
           ,
           will
           not
           destroy
           and
           keep
           us
           from
           as
           well
           as
           these
           ,
           if
           People
           did
           not
           hide
           them
           ,
           and
           will
           not
           let
           them
           go
           ?
           Is
           it
           possible
           men
           may
           have
           the
           greater
           ,
           and
           not
           the
           lesser
           slain
           by
           the
           Power
           of
           the
           Lord
           ?
           if
           they
           would
           bring
           them
           forth
           ,
           he
           would
           slay
           them
           before
           the●r
           faces
           .
           There
           is
           something
           that
           is
           sweet
           to
           them
           ,
           like
           as
           to
           Saul
           ,
           goodly
           in
           their
           Eyes
           ,
           and
           that
           must
           be
           spared
           ;
           but
           that
           which
           is
           Wild
           ,
           Disgraceful
           and
           Reproachful
           ,
           that
           must
           be
           destroyed
           ;
           but
           sparing
           of
           the
           other
           was
           his
           Ruin.
           Ah
           ,
           if
           People
           were
           but
           ingenious
           ,
           and
           bring
           forth
           that
           to
           the
           Sword
           that
           is
           for
           the
           Sword
           ,
           and
           that
           to
           the
           Fire
           that
           is
           for
           the
           Fire
           ,
           would
           not
           then
           this
           Sword
           and
           Fire
           of
           God's
           Spirit
           burn
           up
           and
           destroy
           those
           Fatlings
           and
           Lambs
           that
           they
           keep
           in
           their
           Bosom
           ,
           as
           well
           as
           that
           which
           is
           Wild
           and
           Refuge
           ?
        
         
         
           I
           shall
           desire
           thee
           to
           view
           what
           thy
           own
           Pen
           hath
           written
           ,
           pag.
           7.
           of
           the
           Saint
           indeed
           ;
           thy
           definition
           of
           keeping
           the
           Heart
           ,
           it
           is
           to
           have
           the
           Heart
           set
           right
           ;
           It
           will
           be
           too
           tedious
           to
           transcribe
           all
           ,
           view
           it
           what
           thou
           sayest
           there
           ,
           what
           man
           was
           by
           Creation
           ,
           what
           man
           became
           by
           Degeneration
           ,
           and
           what
           man
           is
           by
           Regeneration
           ,
           where
           all
           is
           set
           right
           again
           ;
           and
           pag.
           22.
           
           
             Had
             they
             kept
             their
             Hearts
             with
             God
             ,
             all
             had
             been
             well
          
           ;
           and
           what
           is
           that
           but
           to
           keep
           from
           Sin
           ,
           pag.
           13.
           holy
           Job
           durst
           not
           suffer
           his
           Heart
           to
           yield
           to
           an
           impure
           Thought
           ,
           surely
           then
           to
           no
           wicked
           Action
           ,
           and
           so
           in
           a
           Sinless
           State
           ,
           as
           long
           as
           he
           kept
           there
           .
           I
           would
           fain
           know
           of
           thee
           ,
           if
           thou
           dost
           please
           ,
           whether
           it
           be
           possible
           for
           a
           Christian
           to
           observe
           those
           directions
           laid
           down
           in
           thy
           Book
           ?
           If
           possible
           ,
           whether
           that
           Soul
           will
           not
           then
           be
           kept
           from
           Sin
           ?
           and
           if
           possible
           ,
           why
           are
           we
           then
           Unchristian'd
           for
           believing
           of
           it
           ?
           If
           impossible
           ,
           why
           thou
           dost
           press
           People
           then
           to
           Impossibilities
           ,
           and
           take
           Money
           for
           it
           to
           view
           thy
           own
           Book
           well
           ,
           and
           practice
           it
           also
           ?
           and
           I
           dare
           to
           say
           thou
           wilt
           come
           to
           that
           blessed
           state
           ;
           Look
           to
           the
           191
           pag.
           read
           it
           at
           large
           ,
           where
           thou
           cryest
           out
           ,
           
             Away
             with
             bold
             Censuring
          
           .
           But
           it
           was
           but
           a
           little
           way
           ,
           for
           in
           the
           194
           pag.
           thou
           canst
           Censure
           the
           Quakers
           ,
           that
           they
           never
           knew
           what
           belong
           to
           Practical
           Godliness
           ,
           and
           study
           of
           their
           own
           Hearts
           :
           I
           beseech
           thee
           in
           the
           bowels
           of
           Love
           ,
           do
           not
           be
           found
           in
           the
           number
           of
           them
           that
           say
           and
           do
           not
           ;
           by
           what
           Scripture-Rule
           dost
           thou
           thus
           judge
           the
           Secrets
           of
           thousands
           of
           Hearts
           ,
           Persons
           whom
           thou
           never
           knewest
           nor
           sawest
           :
           View
           198
           and
           199
           pag.
           where
           thou
           complainest
           of
           the
           Lives
           of
           Professors
           ;
           and
           how
           can
           it
           be
           otherwise
           ?
           (
           What
           is
           the
           Reason
           of
           it
           ?
           )
           they
           are
           told
           it
           is
           impossible
           to
           get
           themselves
           free
           of
           Sin
           ;
           and
           so
           one
           sets
           down
           Captivated
           with
           one
           Sin
           ,
           and
           another
           with
           another
           Sin.
           I
           tell
           thee
           in
           the
           Bowels
           of
           Love
           ,
           
           that
           if
           ever
           the
           Lord
           did
           send
           thee
           to
           Preach
           the
           Gospel
           ,
           it
           was
           for
           the
           Perfecting
           of
           the
           Saints
           ,
           and
           turning
           men
           from
           the
           Power
           of
           Satan
           to
           the
           Power
           of
           God
           ,
           and
           from
           Darkness
           to
           Light
           ;
           and
           not
           to
           tell
           them
           the
           strong
           man
           cannot
           be
           cast
           out
           ,
           and
           all
           his
           Goods
           spoiled
           ,
           But
           ,
           say
           you
           ,
           
             there
             is
             something
             that
             cannot
             be
             destroyed
          
           ;
           Where
           then
           is
           the
           Purgatory
           to
           cleanse
           Souls
           ?
           You
           say
           ,
           and
           it
           is
           true
           ,
           That
           as
           the
           Tree
           falleth
           ,
           so
           it
           lieth
           ;
           and
           if
           men
           dye
           in
           their
           Sins
           ,
           where
           Christ
           is
           gone
           they
           cannot
           come
           ,
           and
           no
           unclean
           thing
           can
           enter
           the
           Kingdom
           of
           Heaven
           ;
           and
           yet
           poor
           People
           cannot
           be
           cleansed
           :
           Ah
           the
           Souls
           that
           split
           on
           this
           Rock
           !
        
         
           3dly
           ,
           The
           Scripture
           holdeth
           forth
           there
           have
           been
           Perfections
           ;
           I
           shall
           quote
           the
           Scriptures
           ,
           Psal.
           64.
           4.
           
           Gen.
           6.
           9.
           
           Job
           .
           1.
           1.
           
           Prov.
           2.
           21.
           1.
           
           Cor.
           2.
           6.
           2
           
           Cor.
           13.
           9.
           11.
           where
           the
           Apostle
           Prayeth
           for
           it
           ,
           and
           Exhorteth
           to
           it
           ,
           Rom.
           6.
           1.
           
           
             How
             shall
             we
             that
             are
             dead
             to
             Sin
             live
             any
             longer
             therein
             ?
          
           Men
           must
           know
           a
           Death
           to
           Sin
           ,
           or
           I
           will
           be
           bold
           to
           say
           ,
           shall
           know
           a
           Death
           for
           Sin
           ,
           Vers.
           6.
           
           They
           must
           know
           the
           Old
           man
           Crucified
           ,
           that
           the
           Body
           of
           Sin
           may
           be
           destroyed
           ,
           that
           henceforth
           they
           should
           not
           serve
           Sin
           ,
           Vers.
           7.
           
           He
           that
           is
           dead
           ,
           is
           freed
           from
           sin
           ;
           men
           will
           not
           know
           a
           Freedom
           from
           Sin
           ,
           until
           they
           know
           a
           Death
           to
           Sin
           ,
           Vers.
           18.
           
           Being
           then
           made
           Free
           from
           sin
           ,
           they
           became
           Servants
           of
           Righteousness
           ;
           Vers.
           22.
           
           When
           dead
           to
           sin
           ,
           then
           servants
           to
           Righteousness
           ,
           and
           then
           men
           have
           their
           Fruits
           to
           Holiness
           and
           their
           End
           is
           Everlasting
           Life
           :
           This
           is
           the
           Doctrine
           of
           Christ.
           
        
         
           But
           the
           Doctrine
           of
           Devils
           is
           to
           say
           ,
           
             that
             men
             may
             Sin
             ,
             and
             not
             dye
          
           ;
           he
           was
           the
           first
           that
           preached
           it
           ;
           Gen.
           3.
           3.
           
           
             Ye
             shall
             not
             dye
          
           ;
           here
           is
           the
           great
           Lyar
           ;
           And
           what
           are
           those
           men
           that
           say
           ,
           
             men
             cannot
             be
             free
             from
             Sin
             till
             they
             come
             to
             Heaven
             ,
             cannot
             cease
             from
             Sin
             till
             come
             to
             Heaven
             ?
          
           
           that
           
             Sin
             cannot
             be
             destroyed
          
           ?
           What
           is
           this
           but
           to
           make
           Christ's
           coming
           void
           ,
           who
           came
           to
           destroy
           the
           Works
           of
           the
           Devil
           ,
           to
           save
           his
           People
           from
           their
           Sins
           ?
           Is
           not
           this
           a
           departing
           from
           the
           Faith
           that
           overcometh
           the
           World
           ,
           the
           Flesh
           and
           the
           Devil
           ,
           and
           a
           giving
           heed
           to
           the
           seducing
           Spirit
           and
           Doctrine
           of
           Devils
           ,
           to
           speak
           Lyes
           to
           uphold
           the
           Devil's
           Kingdom
           ?
           1
           Tim.
           4.
           1.
           and
           unchristian
           all
           that
           believe
           ;
           as
           the
           Scripture
           hath
           said
           ,
           that
           Christ
           saveth
           from
           Sin
           ,
           (
           not
           in
           Sin
           )
           from
           the
           Power
           and
           Practice
           ,
           from
           the
           Filth
           as
           well
           as
           the
           Guilt
           ,
           all
           that
           he
           will
           save
           from
           Hell
           and
           its
           Damnation
           ;
           and
           who
           are
           those
           that
           cry
           out
           against
           it
           ,
           but
           those
           that
           will
           make
           Christ
           ,
           Scripture
           ,
           and
           all
           bow
           down
           to
           their
           sinful
           condition
           ?
           Is
           there
           not
           some
           little
           one
           in
           them
           ,
           that
           they
           will
           not
           give
           up
           to
           God's
           Sword
           and
           Fire
           ,
           some
           Fatlings
           in
           their
           Bosom
           ,
           goodly
           in
           their
           Eyes
           ,
           like
           Saul
           ,
           and
           yet
           think
           their
           Souls
           shall
           live
           for
           all
           this
           ,
           that
           gather
           up
           the
           Failings
           of
           the
           Saints
           to
           feed
           upon
           ;
           that
           because
           
             Noah
             ,
             David
          
           ,
           and
           Peter
           ,
           and
           others
           failed
           ,
           they
           may
           ,
           yea
           ,
           must
           sin
           all
           their
           days
           :
           I
           beseech
           thee
           in
           the
           tender
           love
           of
           the
           Lord
           ,
           to
           perswade
           the
           Children
           of
           men
           to
           a
           thorow
           Work
           of
           Sanctification
           in
           Body
           ,
           Soul
           and
           Spirit
           ,
           and
           a
           perfecting
           Holiness
           in
           the
           Fear
           of
           God
           ,
           and
           a
           Cleansing
           from
           all
           Unrighteousness
           ,
           and
           a
           casting
           out
           of
           the
           Heart
           all
           that
           offend
           him
           ,
           not
           only
           some
           things
           ,
           but
           all
           things
           that
           offend
           him
           ,
           all
           which
           is
           to
           be
           done
           by
           the
           Power
           of
           the
           Lord
           ;
           and
           so
           come
           to
           know
           a
           Perfection
           in
           Christ
           ,
           and
           so
           come
           to
           be
           one
           with
           Christ
           ,
           as
           he
           is
           with
           the
           Father
           ,
           and
           the
           strong
           man
           cast
           out
           ,
           and
           all
           his
           Goods
           spoiled
           ,
           and
           so
           come
           to
           be
           a
           Habitation
           for
           God
           through
           the
           Spirit
           .
           My
           Heart
           is
           here
           enlarged
           ,
           and
           my
           Mouth
           opened
           to
           bear
           witness
           to
           the
           Truth
           of
           God
           ,
           that
           Christ
           is
           able
           and
           willing
           to
           save
           from
           all
           Sin
           ,
           and
           to
           keep
           us
           from
           failing
           ,
           if
           men
           believe
           
           in
           his
           Power
           ,
           and
           keep
           to
           it
           ;
           for
           it
           will
           be
           to
           all
           men
           according
           to
           their
           Faith
           ;
           but
           if
           men
           do
           not
           ,
           yea
           ,
           will
           not
           believe
           Christ
           is
           that
           he
           ,
           that
           can
           (
           yea
           )
           and
           will
           do
           these
           things
           for
           them
           ,
           they
           shall
           dye
           in
           their
           Sins
           ,
           and
           where
           he
           is
           gone
           they
           cannot
           come
           .
        
         
           3dly
           ,
           
             He
             cannot
             be
             a
             Christian
             that
             maketh
             no
             distinction
             between
             the
             Godly
             and
             the
             Wicked
             ,
             or
             Ungodly
             .
          
        
         
           This
           Saddle
           best
           fits
           thy
           own
           Horse
           ,
           on
           whose
           back
           I
           shall
           set
           it
           ,
           look
           to
           the
           Epistle
           of
           thy
           Book
           called
           
             The
             Saints
             indeed
          
           ;
           where
           no
           difference
           is
           made
           between
           the
           Godly
           and
           the
           Ungodly
           ,
           the
           one
           so
           Confers
           ,
           Prays
           ,
           bewailes
           Corruption
           ,
           talks
           of
           Experience
           ,
           open
           their
           Condition
           ,
           neglect
           the
           watch
           over
           the
           Heart
           ,
           and
           does
           often
           fall
           into
           scandalous
           Sins
           as
           the
           Wicked
           do
           ?
           What
           difference
           dost
           thou
           make
           between
           the
           Godly
           and
           Ungodly
           Hearts
           ,
           except
           it
           be
           in
           this
           that
           one
           shall
           go
           to
           Heaven
           ,
           and
           the
           other
           to
           Hell
           ,
           tho
           they
           thus
           live
           ,
           no
           difference
           in
           the
           Life
           ,
           except
           it
           be
           that
           the
           Godly
           so
           called
           by
           thee
           are
           worse
           in
           their
           Lives
           ,
           for
           by
           their
           example
           they
           make
           fast
           the
           bands
           of
           death
           upon
           both
           ;
           the
           former
           are
           cruel
           ,
           and
           shed
           the
           Blood
           of
           other
           Souls
           ;
           fall
           often
           into
           Scandalous
           Sins
           ;
           and
           for
           proof
           David
           is
           brought
           ,
           He
           committed
           Murder
           and
           Adultery
           :
           Did
           he
           fall
           into
           this
           often
           ?
           was
           it
           the
           Practice
           of
           his
           Life
           ?
           was
           not
           the
           remaining
           part
           of
           his
           Life
           spent
           in
           mourning
           and
           watching
           ,
           and
           warning
           against
           ,
           and
           praying
           against
           all
           Sin
           ?
           and
           did
           he
           not
           declare
           his
           abhorrance
           of
           it
           ,
           by
           his
           abstaining
           from
           it
           ,
           all
           false
           wayes
           he
           did
           utterly
           abhor
           ?
           and
           did
           he
           utterly
           abhor
           it
           with
           his
           Tongue
           ,
           and
           not
           abstain
           from
           it
           in
           his
           Life
           ?
           surely
           his
           remaining
           Years
           were
           far
           different
           from
           the
           Life
           of
           the
           Wicked
           ,
           and
           so
           were
           the
           Life
           of
           other
           Saints
           after
           their
           falls
           ,
           and
           therefore
           take
           this
           Charge
           home
           to
           thy self
           ,
           who
           pleads
           for
           Sin
           term
           of
           Life
           ,
           and
           Unchristian
           
           others
           who
           plead
           for
           purity
           of
           Heart
           and
           Life
           ,
           and
           a
           ceasing
           from
           Sin
           ,
           and
           a
           Freedom
           indeed
           by
           the
           Truth
           :
           Be
           not
           offended
           because
           I
           spake
           forth
           the
           Words
           of
           Truth
           ,
           it
           is
           for
           the
           honour
           of
           my
           Saviour
           Christ
           Jesus
           .
           And
           it
           is
           my
           Testimony
           that
           I
           bare
           against
           the
           Devil
           and
           Sin
           and
           the
           Pleaders
           for
           it
           (
           that
           he
           can
           )
           that
           he
           doth
           )
           that
           he
           will
           save
           from
           Sin
           those
           that
           believe
           in
           him
           ,
           and
           come
           to
           him
           and
           receive
           him
           in
           all
           his
           Offices
           ,
           to
           them
           he
           will
           give
           Power
           to
           become
           the
           Sons
           of
           God
           ;
           and
           what
           is
           that
           ,
           but
           to
           cease
           to
           do
           Evil
           ,
           and
           learn
           to
           do
           Well
           ?
        
         
           And
           now
           for
           the
           proof
           of
           thy
           Charge
           ,
           for
           which
           we
           are
           Unchristianed
           ,
           and
           that
           we
           make
           no
           Difference
           between
           the
           Godly
           and
           the
           Wicked
           ,
           is
           this
           ,
           
             that
             Christ
             inlightneth
             Every
             one
             that
             cometh
             into
             the
             World
             with
             a
             saving
             Light.
             
          
        
         
           I
           would
           fain
           know
           whether
           Saints
           be
           Born
           Saints
           ?
           If
           not
           ,
           but
           all
           are
           by
           nature
           Children
           of
           Wrath
           ,
           Enemies
           to
           God
           by
           wicked
           works
           ,
           as
           I
           believe
           they
           are
           ;
           Then
           whether
           that
           Spirit
           that
           strived
           with
           them
           ,
           and
           convinced
           them
           of
           Sin
           ,
           Righteousness
           and
           Judgment
           ,
           and
           brought
           them
           out
           of
           the
           state
           of
           Darkness
           ,
           Enmity
           and
           Rebellion
           ,
           and
           turneth
           them
           ,
           or
           leadeth
           them
           from
           the
           power
           of
           Satan
           ,
           to
           be
           lead
           ,
           giuded
           and
           governed
           by
           the
           Power
           of
           God
           ,
           be
           not
           the
           same
           Spirit
           ,
           that
           is
           striving
           with
           and
           in
           the
           Wicked
           to
           reclaim
           them
           ?
           and
           whether
           it
           would
           not
           reclaim
           them
           ,
           if
           they
           did
           follow
           it
           and
           obey
           its
           Reproofs
           ,
           Instructions
           and
           Counsels
           ?
           God
           gave
           his
           Good
           Spirit
           to
           the
           old
           World
           and
           others
           ,
           and
           doubtless
           willing
           and
           sufficient
           to
           save
           them
           ,
           if
           they
           had
           not
           resisted
           and
           rebelled
           against
           it
           ;
           it
           was
           Gods
           Good
           Spirit
           that
           was
           saving
           which
           was
           given
           to
           rebellious
           Israel
           ,
           but
           they
           Rebelled
           and
           Vexed
           it
           ,
           that
           it
           could
           not
           dwell
           in
           them
           ,
           
           and
           it
           is
           the
           same
           secret
           still
           Voice
           that
           cryeth
           after
           ,
           or
           in
           Man
           and
           Woman
           ,
           
             This
             is
             the
             Way
             ,
             walk
             in
             it
             ;
             Return
             ,
             Return
             ,
             why
             will
             you
             Dye
             ?
          
           But
           by
           Rebellion
           against
           ,
           and
           Resistance
           of
           ,
           Grieving
           ,
           Vexing
           and
           Quenching
           its
           Motions
           ,
           it
           ceaseth
           to
           strive
           ,
           and
           wo
           then
           to
           that
           Soul
           when
           left
           to
           commit
           Sin
           with
           Greediness
           .
        
         
           And
           as
           I
           have
           said
           formerly
           ,
           I
           say
           again
           ,
           if
           in
           any
           thing
           thou
           supposest
           I
           am
           beside
           the
           Truth
           ,
           signifie
           it
           to
           me
           in
           a
           few
           Lines
           ,
           who
           desireth
           and
           prayeth
           for
           the
           coming
           of
           God's
           Kingdom
           in
           the
           Hearts
           of
           the
           Children
           of
           men
           .
        
         
           
             Clement
             Lake
             .
          
           
             Crediton
             ,
             
               the
               28th
               day
               of
               the
               10th
               Month
               ,
               1687.
               
            
          
        
         
           THE
           END
           .