The anti-Christs and Sadduces detected among a sort of Quakers, or, Caleb Pusie of Pensilvania and John Pennington, with his brethren of the second days meeting at London called Quakers, proved antichrists and Sadduces out of a said book lately published by them called A modest account of the principal differences in point of doctrine betwixt George Keith and those of the people called Quakers in Pensilvania &c. : being an answer to the said book ... : with some few remarks on John Pennington's late book entitled The people called Quakers cleared &c. and Geo. Whitehead his postscript ...: and a postscript ... / by George Keith. Keith, George, 1639?-1716. 1696 Approx. 170 KB of XML-encoded text transcribed from 25 1-bit group-IV TIFF page images. Text Creation Partnership, Ann Arbor, MI ; Oxford (UK) : 2005-12 (EEBO-TCP Phase 1). 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Penington, John, 1655-1710. -- People called Quakers cleared by George Keith. Society of Friends -- Controversial literature. 2005-05 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2005-06 Apex CoVantage Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2005-07 Jonathan Blaney Sampled and proofread 2005-07 Jonathan Blaney Text and markup reviewed and edited 2005-10 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion THE Anti-Christs and Sadduces DETECTED Among a sort of QUAKERS : OR , Caleb Pusie of Pensilvania , and John Pennington ; with his Brethren of the Second Days Meeting at London , called Quakers , Proved Antichrists and Sadduces , out of a Printed Book lately published by them , falsly called , A modest Account of the principal Differences in point of Doctrine , betwixt George Keith , and those of the People called Quakers in Pensilvania , &c. ) Being an ANSWER to the said Book , Signed particularly by Caleb Pusie , but expresly recommended in Print by John Pennington , and approved by the Second Days Meeting at London . With some few Remarks on John Penningtons late Book , entitled , The People called Quakers cleared , &c. And Geo. Whitehead his Postscript , shewing some of their gross Perversions , Falsehoods , and Groundless Calumnies against G. K. And a POSTSCRIPT , Containing an earnest Expostulation , with the most Pious and Learned Persons , whether in the Church of England , or among other Protestant Dissenters ; and a serious Invitation unto them , to employ some of their Time and Labour , by their Pious and Learned Writings , to oppose and refute those vile Errors boldly avowed , and publickly broached , in the late Printed books of some Leading Men , among a Gang , and sort of Quakrs . By GEORGE KEITH . London , Printed for the Author , and are to be sold at his House at the Golden Ball over-against Red-Lyon-street in White-Chappel . THE Anti-christ's and Sadduces DETECTED , Among a sort of QUAKERS . IN the first place , it is fit I should give the Readers some Information who the Second Days Meeting at London is . It is a Meeting of the Ministry of them , called Quakers , of William Penns and George Whiteheads Party , belonging to London , and some of the Country that may happen to be present , who Meet at Whitehart-Court in Lombard-Street , every Second day of the Week , and assume a Power to License and Approve of all Books that are to be Printed by any of their Party , and have approved this Book , falsely called , A Modest Account , and all the late scandalous Books of Thomas Elwood and John Pennington , come forth against me , and claim Authority over all other Meetings ( the Yearly Meeting perhaps excepted ) sending out their Circular Letters to all other Meetings in all parts of the World , as they think they have occasion , and to whom the Meetings from all places , direct their Letters upon any occurrence of difference ( as the Churches and Bishops of other Countries had wont to direct their Letters to Rome , which was the Rise of that Roman Hierarchy ) the which Meeting may be fitly compared to the Conclave of Cardinals at Rome , but who is the Metropolitan of this new erected Hierarchy at London , at present , is not certainly known , as whether W. P. or G. W. He doth acknowledg , 1st . differences in point of Doctrine . 2. Principal differences . How doth this agree with many of them called the Church Party here , who say , They do not deny G. K's Doctrine . P. 8. As concerning the Sufficiency of the Light , without something else ( that he saith you have made such a pudder about of late ) for this he brings a Proof from my Book , Light of Truth , p. 12. and 6. where I say the express Knowledg and Belief , &c. Is not universally of absolute necessity unto Salvation , and so I say still , annd so saith R. Barclay , whom he abuseth as well as me , for we both frequently caution and limit the matter , saying the clear distinct express Historical Knowledg is not universally necessary . See my Book , Universal Grace , p. 117. ad Finem . But whereas he states the difference in point of Doctrine betwixt some in Pensilvania , and me , as if I said , it were an Error to affirm , ' the Light within were sufficient , without something else , which I never so said , nor thought , for the Light within is sufficient without , not only something else , but without thousands of somethings else ; But my assertion was and is , ' The Light within is not sufficient to Salvation without ' something else , which they blaming , they ought to hold the contradictory assertion , viz. The Light within is sufficient to Salvation , without any thing else , for two contradictories are not betwixt two particulars , but one particular , and another Universal ; now seeing they hold , ' that the Light within ' is sufficient without any thing else , it is plain they Exclude the Man Christ without us , and his Death , &c. from being concerned in our Salvation . P. 8. He basely forges me to say , It is a real degree of Blasphemy to say this Light cannot make satisfaction for sins past , citing pag. 38. 39. Refutation . See the place , I have no such words , but plain contrary . I say , Refut . p. 42. 43. Neither is the Saints greatest inward Righteousness or Holiness wrought in them by the Spirit of God , an Atonement or Propitiation for their sins , but Christ alone , who Dyed for us , the just for the unjust . P. 9. He cites my Book , Looking-glass for Protestants , p. 10. That Magistrates may Preach , which he thinks a contradiction to my late Testimony with Friends in Pensilvania , that Friends of the Ministry should not meddle to be Justices and Judges in Criminal Cases ; but this is no contradiction , for it is one thing occasionally to Preach , or Teach , or Exhort , as any Christian can do , and another to exercise the Office or Function of a Minister of the Gospel of Peace one day , that saith , Resist not Evil , and our Weapons are not Carnal , and another day to hang Men for Murder , &c. Which scarce any that profess to be Ministers do in Christendom , but the Quakers in America . P. 9. That I say of Christs Body now in Heaven , It being no more a Body of Flesh , Blood , and Bones , but a pure ethereal , or Heavenly Body . This he brings to prove a contradiction to my self , leaving out the foregoing words , — Which remaineth the same in Substance , that it was on Earth , &c. So that by my saying , it being no more a Body of Flesh and Blood , I mean it in the Apostles sense , 1 Cor. 15. Flesh and Blood cannot inherit , &c. See my words cited by himself , p. 10. a Testimony against the false and absurd Op. The Flesh that is mortal , gross and corruptible , is not the Flesh that shall be raised up immortal and incorruptible . P. 12. He makes me to contradict my self in saying , Presb. and Indep . p. 133. The Express Knowledg of Christ , his becoming Man , and suffering , was positively denied to be of necessity to Salvation , but now I furiously quarrel with Friends about it , that it is . But his fallacy lyeth in this , that I say , the express Knowledg is not universally necessary , but some knowledg , if not express , yet implicit , is , and this is no Contradiction . P. 15. He Argues from my Book , The Light of Truth , p. 8. That the Light within is the only Christ , and he saith , p. 14. the word only admits of nothing else , than Light , Power and Spirit within . Answ . 1. Here it is manifest , he placeth all on the Light within , so that the man Christ Jesus of Nazoreth without us , is nothing of Christ ; but as his Assertion , and Consequence is Blasphemous , so it follows not from my words ; for as I then said , so I still say , Christ is but one , and there are not two Christs , one within , and another without ; but it will not follow , that there is nothing of Christ without us , but what is within us . Suppose Caleb Pusey's Head is without the House , and some , or most of his Body is within the House , as is possible , the Caleb Pusey that is within , is the same that is without , yet there is something of him without , that is not within , it is the same Body of Water in the Complex , that is in the Thames , and in the Sea , yet it follows not that there is nothing of the great and vast Body of Water , but what is within the Thames . But when Men that have neither Learning , nor good Exercise of Human Reason , will meddle to Dispute , we see how ignorant they prove themselves to be in the face of the World , or how they expose themselves in Print , neither to be true Christians , nor Men of true Reason ; he had better kept with working at his Mill , being by profession a Miller , than enter into a Dispute of matters wherein he is so grosly ignorant . But seeing the Second Days Meeting at London hath countenanced his Book , and the Quakers generally at London allow it to be Sold next door to their Meeting-house in Grace-Church-street , they make his ignorance , unbelief , Saducism and Antichristian Doctrine to be theirs . And seeing my Book , called , The Light of Truth , in Answer to R. Gordon , was approved by the Second Days Meeting , and that he would infer from my words , That Jesus of Nazareth cannot be something else than the Light , Power and Spirit within , it is plain , that it is both their Sense and his , that Jesus of Nazareth is nothing at all of Christ without us , which is a plain contradiction to themselves , and to himself in his following words . But no such consequence doth really follow from my words . P. 17. He so mingles my words with his own , that no man can distinguish the one from the other , but the Reader that doth not compare my words in my own Book , with his Citations , would think them to be mine , for whereas my words are in the pag. cited by him . — For whereas thou not only affirms that Salvation and Justification hath a necessary respect to Christ his taking on him the form of a Servant , or Man in the outward , and humbling himself therein , even to the outward Death , ( which we also grant , God having so ordered it to be ) &c. He makes as if I said , ( his words are for as G. K. saith ) the Lord having ordained it so to be , how can or dare we say therefore , that he was , or is not sufficient , by his Light , Power and Spirit , to save without something else . But see Reader his Forgery , I say no such words , but my words are a plain contradiction , by necessary consequence to his presumptuous assertion , for seeing God had Ordained it so to be ( as I have said ) that our Salvation and Justification hath a necessary respect to Christ his taking on him the form of a Servant in the outward , therefore it evidently followeth , that God could not save us without respect to the Man Christ in the outward , otherwise he could or should contradict his own Ordination ; but as God cannot lye , so nor can he contradict his own Counsel and Ordination , and therefore the presumption is his and not mine . And seeing they grant that God in the Man Christ without us , cannot save us without an inward work of his Power and Spirit within us , to Regenerate and Sanctify us , which is a Truth , and yet is no Reflection on his Sufficiency and Omnipotency , so nor is it any reflection on him , that God in us cannot save us without the Man Christ without us , for he is as truly God without us , and incomparably more manifest in the Man Christ without us , than in us . P. 19. He saith , I exposed Friends to the World in Print , for retaking a Sloop , without ever admonishing them before hand for it , and that when I reckoned my self an Elder in the Church among them . Answ . This is a gross falshood and Forgery , I Printed nothing about their retaking a Sloop , till a considerable time , after 28 of the Ministers had Excommunicated me at Philadelphia ; to which Sentence , some that gave a Commission to retake the sloop by force of Arms , did put their hands , and all the rest consented , and they have disowned me to be any Member of their Church , and how then could I own my self to be any of them ? which I did not . So that this whole passage is false , and a wilful piece of Forgery . P. 20. He also alledgeth , That I came to them , and commended them for what they did , and said , It was very well done , adding , methinks you should consider these things . Answ . But what proof brings he for his Affirmation ? None at all , and he having sufficiently discovered his gross forgery in other things , rendreth his credit of no value in this ; and I well remember that at the retaking of the Sloop , I was not in the Province ; but that I commended them that they had done well , to send Armed men to retake the Sloop , I affirm is an absolute forgery , for it never was my Principle , since I was called a Quaker , and I have many to bear me witness , that it hath been my constant Principle that Friends should not in any case use the Carnal Sword ; and the same Principle Robert Barclay , in his Apology , hath largely asserted , and whom we have quoted , and it is well known that many of greatest note among the Quakers hath declared the same . And suppose I did say , that they who did retake the Sloop did well , which I do not remember , all this might have been well said without any contradiction , or equivocation , for it was Peter Bosse , and one or two more with him in a little Boat , having neither Gun , Sword nor Spear , that retook the Sloop , when a great many Armed Men that filled several Boats stood off at a distance , and were afraid to come within shot , and so the praise of that work belonged to him , and not to them , and the Magistrates did ill reward him , for they not long after Fined him 6 Pounds , and put him in Prison for some passages writ to Sam. Jennings in a private Letter , and kept him in Prison 20 miles remote from his Family , till the Magistrates that were Quakers , and had cast him into Prison , were turned out of the Government by G. Fletcher , who was made Governour of Pensilvania , by a Commission from K. William and Queen Mary , and how soon he came unto the Government , he Released him , after inquiry , that they had nothing justly against him . See a further Account of this in the printed Tryal of G. K. T. B. and Peter Bosse , first printed at Philadelphia , and Reprinted at London . And concerning Peter Bosse his retaking the Sloop without Force of Arms , John Homes , a Baptist Teacher , and either then , or some time not long after a Justice of Peace ( whose Name , and Christian Behaviour is mentioned in the said printed Tryal , in refusing to give Judgment against G. K. whithout hearing ) did write some English Verses , which are these following . One * Quaker , Master of a Boat , With our small Fleet along did Float , And tho he us'd not Sword nor Gun , Yet with his Oars and with his Tongue . He plaid his part exceeding well , As these who were with him , can tell . P. 22. Whereas he makes me to say , in one Book , The express knowledg of Christ's Death and Sufferings , as Man in the outward , is not universally necessary to Salvation : And in another , That the express Knowledg of Christ's Death , is universally necessary . Answ . In this he useth ( after his manner ) gross deceit , and greatly abuseth his Reader and me also , for tho he citeth a passage in one of my Books , to prove the first , viz. Presh . and Indep . Vis . p. 133. Yet he cites no passage in any of my Books , for the second that I can find , tho I have narrowly searched , but the only proof I can find he brings is , that he saith , p. 15. I furiously quarrel with Friends about it , and confess it to be a main matter of Controversy with Friends there . This is false , I never had any Controversy with any , whether the express Knowledg and Faith of Christ's Death and Sufferings be universally necessary to Man's Salvation , so as necessary to be had by all and every one before Death . But the true state of the Question betwixt them and me , was and is , Whether the express Knowledg and Faith of Christ's Death and Sufferings , &c. be not necessary to Salvation , to all Professing Christianity , and who have the opportunity and help of the Holy Scriptures of the Old and New Testament , whereby to receive it , the Holy Spirit inwardly co-operating to produce the Faith of it in them that hear or read that Doctrine , as delivered in the Holy Scriptures ; and whether the Doctrine of Christ should not be Preached , as he Died for our Sins , and rose again , &c. as a main Doctrine of the Christian Religion in order to Salvation ! For I have always distinguished betwixt simple Heathens or Gentiles , who have not the occasion to have the Faith outwardly Preached , and those in Christendom under a Christian Profession , who have the occasion to hear it Preached ; to the former I have said ; the express Knowledg and Faith of that Doctrine is not necessary , tho the implicit in some degree is , but how much , or what measure or degree of it is universally necessary I have never affirmed ? And that this is the true state of the question betwixt my Adversaries and me , I need go no further for a Proof than from my present Adversary , who makes it a great Error in me , to say , the Light within is not sufficient to Salvation , without something else ; for if that be false , the contradictory is true , viz. The Light within is sufficient to Salvation , without any thing else , but the Death and Sufferings of Christ , and his Blood outwardly shed , and his Intercession for us in Heaven without us , are all something else , and if the Light within be sufficient without all these , then there is no need to believe or Preach any of them , but only and alone the Light within . P. 24. He spends his Pages from 24. to 28. in some base insinuations against me , about the 12 Revolutions , and telling some Stories , most of which are absolutely false ( and that little that 's true , in any of them , is not fairly , nor duly related ) and which he brought no proof for , but his own forfeited Credit , or the report of such as are of as ill Credit as himself , and known to have been prejudiced Persons against me . P. 29. What he saith of my Praising the Quaker`s Doctrine to Cotton Mather in New-England , was before that Party rose up aginst me in Pensilvania , to oppose the same Doctrine I delivered in my Printed Books , in answer to Cotton Mather , which Doctrine they seemed to own , and all my former Books were Approved of by most of the Ministers of best note in Pensilvania , that were writ , in Answer to Cotton Mather , and his Brethren in New England , before they were Printed ; so that it was a most astonishing thing to me to find how suddenly they who professed to own the Doctrine contained in these Books , turned against the very same Doctrine , after W. Stockdale had accused me , of Preaching two Christs , because I Preached Faith in Christ without , and in Christ within , therefore this sudden Alteration began in them , and until I came to England , ( and found the greatest part of their Teachers here in England , and particularly G. Whitehead , and W. Penn , to favour and support those in Pensilvania , whom I have sufficiently detected guilty of vile Errors ) I had but too good an Esteem for them , wherein I confess I was mistaken ; and this put me on a further search into their Books , which formerly I did not much Read ( and many of them not at all ) and what I did Read , I did not so well consider ; and upon my further search , I found sufficient cause to change my Judgment concerning these Men. But none can charge it on me , that either by word or writing I ever agreed with them in those vile Errors , which since I have discovered and reprehended in them , so that this is no change or contradiction in any Doctrine or Principle of Faith , and what change of Judgment I have of these Men , they have the like of me , and will readily confess they have been as greatly mistaken in me , as I have been in them ; and therefore they can have no advantage against me in that respect . And whereas he Insinuateth , pag. 24. 25 , 26. That I have dropt here and there some passages in my late Books , from which they cannot but conclude , That either I did intend to conform Friends to some Doctrine , of which , by what follows , the Doctrine of the 12 Revolutions may be supposed to be not the least in his Eye , or else to separate from them . Some of which expressions he mentions out of my late Books Printed in Pensilvania , all which were generally approved by Friends of the Ministry , out of which he hath gathered them ; and if he thinks these Expressions will prove the Doctrine of the 12 Revolutions , he should have proved it by positive Arguments , and not give simple Queries for Arguments ; all which I could easily Answer , without the Doctrine of the 12 Revolutions , but that I have no mind to answer his curiosity , or gratify such a prejudiced Adversary ; and he might much rather query , whether G. F. did not hold the Doctrine of the Revolutions , that hath said in some of his Printed Books , before Languages were ▪ he was ; and his Charging the Blood of many that were slain above a thousand Years ago upon the People living in his time , in the City of Leichfield , as he declareth in his Journal , and how he went in Blood a great way , and was commanded to pull off his Shoes , &c. This and some other like passages has occasioned some to think G. F. favoured the Revolutions , but I do not say he did . And whether the Disciples did not hold that Doctrine , that said , Master , who hath sinned , this Man , or his Servants , that he was born blind ; and many other places of Scripture there are on which he might as much and much more query concerning the Revolutions , as any expressions he hath mentioned of mine , as well as he might query , concerning the Revolutions , all Friends generally who hold , That God hath given to every one a day of Visitation , wherein he may be saved , and that a Time of God's long suffering is extended to every one wherein he may repent and be Converted , seeing many Dye , in the Morning , as it were of their Age , without all signs of Conversion , and have had but little Time given them , between their Birth and Death , wherein to Repent . And as to his Question , If an honest Indian , or Poor infant dye without that outward Knowledg , &c. He quite misseth the matter ; I never affirmed the absolute necessity of an outward Knowledg , universally to Salvation , besides that , properly all knowledg is inward , and not outward , the subject of it being the mind and understanding that is inward . And seeing it is certain , that there are honest men , both among Indians , and them called Christians , that are not born again , I return his own Query upon him to Answer , what becomes of them when they dye , seeing without being born again , there is no entring into the Kingdom of God , and what becomes of many called Quakers , and others , that before they dyed , had no signs that they were arrived at that high state of a sinless perfection , for tho Friends have earnestly contended for the Doctrin of Perfection , as attainable by the Grace of God in this Life , yet they have generally acknowledged , that many in whom the work of Sanctification is begun , have not as yet arrived to that state , but have many sinful imperfections remaining in them , and the Flesh lusting against the Spirit ; now let him tell me , or any for him , what becomes of such when they Dye , and I may give him the like Answer , or some better , what becomes of honest Indians when they Dye , if he or they say , they who are in measure Sanctified , but not Perfected in Sanctification before they Dye , are made perfect in Holiness at the instant of Death , tho this Answer Friends have blamed , when given by those against whom they have contended , yet if they think fit to allow of it , as current now , as it will in great part end the Dispute about Perfection , and Answer the great Objection about the Popish Purgatory ; so it is as valid to Answer that Question , What becomes of honest Gentiles , that before they Died , had no Knowledg nor Faith of Christ Crucified , to wit , that it is given them at the instant of Death , by the internal Operation , and illumination of the Holy Spirit : But if any say , this Answer is more alledged than Proved , I reply , it hath the same probability in the one case , as in the other . P. 30. To prove my inconsistency and contrariety with my self , in the Doctrine of the Resurrection , with a most blasphemous presumption , he finds fault with Scripture Doctrine it self , and like a scoffing Sadducy , or rather Atheist , goeth to fix a contradiction on the Scripture it self ; for thus he brings me in , contradicting my self , that which riseth is the mortal , that puts on immortality , and the corruptible which puts on incorruption ; citing my Book , called , A Testimony against that absurd Opinion , p. 3. But in another place , p. 10. he citeth me , saying , The Flesh that is mortal and corruptible is not that Flesh that shall be raised up immortal and incorruptible . And citing my Book , called , Truth Advanced , he brings me saying of that which riseth , That it is a pure noble part , that consumeth not , nor corrupteth . And then he querieth , If that which riseth be the corruptible , p. 31. how is it , that that which riseth is incorruptible and corrupteth not again ? Now Reader , I desire thee to notice how he quarrels not so much with me as with the Scriptures , to prove a contradiction in them , for my saying , That which riseth is the Mortal that puts on Immortality , and the Corruptible that puts on Incorruption , this is plain Scripture , 1 Cor. 15. 53. For this Corruptible must put on Incorruption , and this Mortal must put on Immortality . And for the next Citation , which he makes a contradiction to the former ; it is also most plain and evident in the Scripture , The Flesh that is Mortal and Corruptible is not that Flesh that shall be raised up Immortal and Incorruptible ; for the Scripture saith Flesh and Blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God , 1 Cor. 15. 50. And surely that is the Flesh that is Mortal and Corruptible . And p. 37. That which thou sowest , thou sowest not that Body that shall be : And v. 42. It is sown in Corruption , it is raised in Incorruption , &c. And to his question , which implyeth a negation and opposition to plain Scripture ; I answer , That which riseth , is incorruptible , and corrupteth not again , because it is made incorruptible and immortal by the mighty Power of God , and to question the immortality and incorruptibility of the Bodies of the Saints after they are raised from the Dead , is to suppose that they shall dye again , and has this necessary consequence , that they shall sin again , for the wages of sin is Death : But this contradicts the Testimony of Christ , and all his Holy Prophets and Apostles , and is a plain Introduction to Epicurism and Atheism . And that I said in my Book , Truth Advanced , which he findeth fault with , as being a contradiction , that that which riseth is a pure , noble part that consumeth not , nor corrupteth . This I say still , and is no contradiction ; for in my Book in that very place cited by him . p. 113. I bring a similitude of a grain of Corn , which very Similitude the Scripture bringeth , to demonstrate the Resurrection , 1 Cor. 15. 37. Now all but fools and idiots know , that as there is a Grain of Corn that corrupteth , and turneth to Earth or Dust , so there is another part in it , that is more Noble , that corrupteth not , but by the corruption and dissolution of the other part , is , as it were , set out of Prison , and gets a new Life and Multiplication , and as true Philosophy and right Reason , and Ocular Experience teacheth , that the generation of one thing followeth the corruption of another , yet there is something in the new generated thing , that was in the old corrupted thing ; so every Husbandman , that has common sense , knoweth , that his Seed which he soweth , doth not all perish or rot in the ground , but a part remaineth in every Grain , that multiplieth , except in some extraordinary case , of immoderate Rains and Colds , that altogether destroy the Seed in the ground , as sometimes happeneth ; and then he expects no Crop , unless he sow again . And that this man will needs meddle with Philosophical matters , to confirm himself by false Notions in gross Sadducism , and opposition to the plain Doctrine of Holy Scripture , is a lamentable case ; and that he hath got the Second Days Weekly Meeting at London , to approve his book , in order to disperse it all over the Meetings of the People called Quakers , to corrupt and leaven them more and more into Sadducism and unbelief , who have been in any degree formerly corrupted , as I find too many are ; and to spoil and defile the minds of young People , is yet more lamentable . Page 32. He goeth on not so much in contending with me , as against the Scripture it self . But that which seemeth mightily to vex and disquiet his Thoughts , is , that he cannot conceive how there can be an incorruptible part lodged or placed in the corruptible body , and how the body can have any incorruptible part in it before the Resurrection ; for then he thinks it would be both corruptible and incorruptible at once ; and also it needs not be changed from an incorruptible body to an incorruptible body ? And what change is that ? I question if any Sadducee did ever argue so ignorantly against the Resurrection of the body as this bold ignorant doth . Shall I send him to his Mill , or own Trade of grinding , or sawing Timber , for further instruction ? Doth he not know that Corn hat● two parts in it , the one Husk , the other Meal ? And hath not a Tree in it two parts , the one Wood , the other Bark ? And is not the one more Noble than the other ? And when a man eateth Corn with the Husk , and swalloweth down at least a good quantity of the Husk or Bran , together with the Food that is mixed with it , doth the Husk become any part of his body ? or , rather , doth it not belong to the Excrement , with other gross parts of the food ? Is there not in all food one more Noble part that becometh not Excrement , but is transmuted into real flesh , in man ? And did not what our Saviour eat , turn into his real flesh , and become incorruptible , seeing his flesh saw no corruption ? And was not his body of flesh , that did not see corruption , yet further changed , after his Resurrection and Ascension , from a lower degree to a higher degree of Glory ? Bus if it were not for the sake of others , to whom I hope this may be serviceable , I should think my time lost to trace this ignorant man , that is so stubborn and presumptuous in his ignorance , ( and it might seem like casting Pearl before Swine ) that so dares to tread under his dirty feet , such precious Truths of Scripture . But I hope what he arrogantly treads under , and his ignorant Sadducean Fraternity with him , others will gather up , and value , for the worth of them . And besides the Scripture Similitude of Corn , I brought another Similitude in that same Page of my book , p. 113. comparing the mortal and corruptible body of man to a Mass , or Mixture , that hath both Gold and Dross in it , which Mass is an Heterogeneous body , and is not pure Gold. And though Gold is not in the highest or strictest sense incorruptible , yet it is the most incorruptible of all Metals or Minerals , or other such visible bodies ; and therefore in comparison of many other bodies , it may be said to be incorruptible . Now why may it not be said , of a Mass that hath both Gold and Dross in it , it is a corruptible body ; for all Heterogeneous bodies are corruptible ; and yet it hath that in it which in a certain respect is incorruptible ; for we know not any thing that can corrupt it , seeing it endureth the hottest fire that can be put to it . P. 33. My Similitude taken from the Soul of Man , that remains the same in substance , after its sanctification , that it was before , when unsanctified , and defiled with sin , he saith , is short of the matter ; for such a change is surely rather a purification than a transmutation , even as the washing of a body besmeared with dirt , when cleansed , is a purification , and not a transmutation . But still this ignorant presumptuous man runs himself rashly upon the sharp pricks . Formerly he hath laboured in vain to destroy the felicity of the body of a Saint , and now he laboureth as much in vain to destroy the felicity of his Soul ; that he makes the work of Regeneration in the Soul of Man , to be nothing else but a purification from sin , as when a Body besmeared with dirt , is cleansed , that is a Purification , and not a Transmutation . I never heard , nor read a more ignorant and nonsensical Assertion . This is like that other most nonsensical Assertion of one of their great Preachers here at London , Jacob Talner , and a Member of their Second Days Meeting , who said in a publick Conference at Turner's - Hall , London , 28. 3d. month , 1696. desired by himself , That Adam , before his Fall , was neither Holy , nor Righteous , nor Wise ; and from this False Assertion , he brought an Argument , That Spiritual Death could not be an effect of Adam's Sin : Both which Assertions are flatly contrary , not only to Scripture , but to the common manner of Preaching among the People called Quakers ; and this he boldly affirmed in the hearing of some hundreds , many of which were his own Party . What is this but to make the Souls of the Saints , nothing but as so many Tabulae Rasae , washed Tables without any Beautiful Colours , or lively Portraiture on them ? Is then the Image of God in the Saints no positive thing , but a Freedom from sin , or a Negation of it . Is Holyness nothing but a Negation of unholiness ? Is the ardent Love of God in the Saints nothing , but a meer negative of hatred of God ? Doth not the Scripture plainly distinguish betwixt the finishing Transgression , and bringing in everlasting Righteousness ? O wrerched ignorance ! And O lamentable shame that falls upon the Second Days weekly Meeting of the People called Quakers , for approving such Antichristian Doctrine , worse than Heathenism ; for I never heard that ever any Heathen Philosopher said or taught , That Virtue in the Soul of a Man , was nothing but the absence of Vice. The Holy Scripture doth not only Teach us , That the Saints are washed , but Sanctified , and Transformed , Rom. 12. 2. And what is now become of G. Foxes frequent Doctrine in his Preaching , and Printed Epistles , That Christ , the Second Adam , brings up them that follow him , not only to the state of the First Adam that fell , but unto his Image that never fell , and is the Holiness of the Second Adam , nothing but a freedom from sin and unholiness ; he may as well say , Heat is nothing but the absence of cold , Sweet is nothing but the absence of Sower , or Bitter ; Light is nothing but the absence of Darkness , and that the best things , are meer Negatives , and nonentities ; and the putting on the New Man , is nothing else but the putting off the Old Man ; and so at this rate the Scripture is vain and false , which doth distinguish them , as much as betwixt the putting off a filthy Garment , and the putting on a new clean Garment ? But if on better consideration , he be ashamed of his rash Assertion , and come to acknowledg that the Soul by Regeneration , not only is purified from Sin , but wonderfully changed and transformed , from Natural or Animal , to Spiritual , from Earthly to Heavenly , and yet the same in Substance ; let him acknowledg that the mighty Power of God , through Christ , that thus hath changed the Soul , retaining the same substance , can and will change the low Body of a Saint , and fashion it like the Glorious Body of Christ , as the Scripture plainly Testifieth , Phil. 3. P. 34. But nothing will satisfy him , unless I can demonstrate how a Natural and Corruptible Substance can be turned into a Spiritual one . Well , if I can demonstrate that this actually was done , will that satisfy him ? I fear his unbelief will still harden his Heart against this excellent Doctrine of holy Scripture . But however , I will try a little more to Convince him . The Food which our Saviour received into his Body , was it not before he received it , corruptible , or to use his Phrase , a Corruptible Natural Substance ? Yea , surely it was , and what part of that Food became part of his Body and Flesh , it was turned or changed into incorruptible , for as his Flesh saw no Corruption , so without all doubt it is at present an incorruptible Substance , which G. W. after his former wrangling hath acknowledged , Malice of the Indepen . Agent , p. 17. P. 34. His wrangling and quibling from his own gross misunderstanding of some places of Scripture , helps him nothing , as that David slept with his Faethers , and saw Corruption , Acts 13. 36. And that of Job , I have said of Corruption , thou art my Father . If he will take these Scriptures strictly and literally , he must as much contend against the Immortality of the Soul , as the Resurrection of the Body ; the Mortal Body of Man is truly said to be Corruptible , because it consists of two heterogeneous parts , the one Noble , the other ignoble , to wit , the Husk , Dross , or Cortex , and after the Separation of the Noble , from the Ignoble , it is not corrupt , but pure , yet at the Resurrection it is raised up to an higher Dignity , and made immortal and incorruptible , as it neither shall , nor can return to be united with that drossy part again , and so is truly incorruptible , as well as immortal . But he will not leave off , until , as the Man-Eater , or Anthropophagus , eateth Mans Flesh , he Eat or swallow up ( with his devouring Throat , thereby thinking to destroy it ) the Doctrine of the Resurrection of the Body . And he joyneth with Atheists and Sadducees here in arguing against the Resurrection of the Body ( being the same in Substance ) from the Man-Eaters . And to my Answer to their Objection from the Man-Eaters , he Replyeth , first , Repeating some of my words , but omitting the Explanatory part , I shall therefore cite them as they are in my Book , p. 118. Truth Adv. I say , Allowing there is a great change , or renewing of the gross material and visible Parts of Mans Body , yet the Radical Body , or Radix , and Principal Substance of the Body remaineth the same , and is of a durable and lasting Nature ; and tho it may be encreased in Man , while he liveth , yet it is not diminished , nor the parts of it separated asunder ; and tho Man-Eaters may Eat the gross part of Man's Body , yet that more subtil and invisible part they cannot , nor can that which belongeth to one be given to another ; hence by way of Allegory and Metaphor , it is called Bone in Scripture , Isa . 66. 14. From this , most nonsensically he infers , That I affirm , the Man-eaters Eat the Accidents of Man's Body , but not the Substance , and will needs have it the same , or equally absurd with the Doctrine of Transubstantiation . But this sort of quibling comes partly from his gross ignorance , and partly from the perversion and prejudice of his Spirit , for I neither said , nor thought that the Man-Eaters eat only the Accidents , but I distinguished betwixt the Radix and principal Substance of Man's Body , and that which was but the drossy part , which is also a substance , and if he deny it to be a substance , to wit , the Dross or Drossy part of any Body , which is frequently separated from the Noble Volatile part , by Chimical Operations , and otherwise , he is guilty of the Popish false Notion of Transubstantiation , and not I , for the Dross is frequently separated from that more Noble Substance , that it was mingled with ; and if he says that Dross is not a Substance , but an Accident , then here is the Popish Doctrine affirmed by him , with a witness ! But let this Miller-Philosopher , ( who , as the Shooemaker , goeth beyond his Last , so goeth beyond his Sphere of Knowledge , in all his undertaking against these great Truths of the Christian Faith ) tell me , doth he think that a Man-eater can , properly speaking , eat Iron , Silver , Gold , Lead : if he swallow it down , will it not go forth at the draught with the Excrement , and yet is no part of the Excrement ? This is a thing usually known , that some , to save their Gold from Robbers , have swallowed it down ; but did they eat it ? If he say , nay ; then I say to him , no more can a man-eater eat that radical and principal substance of a Saints body , to make it a part of his body ; for as every body has a distinct seed , so the Radix of every body is a distinct Radix . P. 36. But behold the man's great hypocrisie , after all his so much contending against the Resurrection of the Body , and charging the Scripture it self with inconsistency and contradiction , yet he has the impudence to say , we firmly believe there shall be a Resurrection both of the Just and Unjust . And again he saith , We do not think it a necessary business to be curiously prying into the manner of it ; Neither , saith he , do we find the Primitive Christians come to any Result about what their Bodies should be . But this is a plain Contradiction to the holy Scripture , That the Primitive Christians believed , and all true Christians do now believe , which saith , This corrrptible shall put on incorruption , and this mortal shall put on immortality . Now what is this mortal ? It is not the Soul which he thinks ( I suppose ) is not mortal ; therefore it must be the Body . And concerning the manner of it , the Scripture is very plain and express , It is sown natural , it is raised spiritual ; it is sown in corruption , it is raised in incorruption ; it is sown in weakness , it is raised in power ; it is sown in dishonour , it is raised in honour . P. 36. But he goeth on still , querying , 1. If it was the common belief of the Primitive Christians , that the very same matter and substance of this corruptible body , should be the body that is raised , why should any among themselves , especially , have asked such a needless question , as with what Body do they come ? I answer , Such who asked that Question , were such among them , that said , there was no Resurrection of the Dead , as such there were , 1 Cor. 15. 12. How say some among you , there is no Resurrection of the Dead ? And therefore Paul thought it not needless to propose their Question , on purpose to answer it ; and that he might take occasion thereby the more fully and amply to declare it . His second Question is , Would not the Apostle have answered more to the matter ? I answer , He answered very well to the matter , after he had reproved them as Fools , for querying from their unbelief , and their ignorant manner of arguing against it , as many do at this day , he proceeds to show the manner how it is raised , having in the foregoing Verses proved the Truth of the Thing , he doth next show the manner of it ; and the Question which he answers , is not concerning what is raised , or who are raised , but how are the Dead raised , and with what manner , or with what quality of body do they come ; so the truest , and best Translation out of the Greek , which hath it not 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , but 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 . i. e. not quo corpore , sed quali corpore ; not with what , but with what quality of body do they come ? But this their querying was a sort of arguing against the thing it self , of the Resurrection . And by an Argument which they thought to take from the manner of it , they argued against the thing it self , even as the Sadducees argued with Christ against the Resurrection , from the false conceit of the manner of it , that they had , as if the Body were to be raised up in the same manner as it is now , so as to be fit for generation , and the use of marriage , which Christ confuted ; so many at this day , and especially this Sadducy , Caleb Pusie , and his Sadducean Fraternity in Pensilvania , and here in England and elsewhere , they argue against the Resurrection of the Body it self , from the manner of it , as thus , If the same body for substance shall be raised , then it must be raised , for manner , such as it is now , but that is impossible . Now the Apostle answers , by donying , that it shall be raised in the same manner , but it shall quite be changed and transformed , not transubstantiated , from mortal and corruptible , and Natural or Animal , to immortal , incorruptible and spiritual . Oh , say they , this connot be , this would be a Transubstantiation , like that of the Papists . But I say , this Caleb Pusie , and his Fraternity , that profess to hold a Resurrection of the body , but not of that same substance , fall in with the Popish Transubstantion ; for Transubstantiation is a change of a thing from one substance to another , as the Papists say ; and therefore Caleb Pusie , and his brethren , who deny that the body is the same in substance , but changed from one substance to another , are clearly one with the Papists , in their absurd Doctrine of Transubstantiation : And thus the Pit he and his Saddueean brethren have digged for me , he and they are fallen into both together . And it is manifest Hypocrisie in Caleb Pusie and his brethren , for him and them to say , they think it not necessary to be curiously prying into the manner of it , when they are most absurd in determining the manner of it , contrary to all Scripture and Reason . For they will needs have it , that the change is a change of the substance , and not of the Quality and Condition : The Body , say they , that the dead are raised with , is another body in substance , so they will needs have it . But then let him tell us , when the deceased Saints get this other body , that is another in substance : I suppose he will say with his brethren , in the same ignorance and unbelief , G. W. and W. P. that they get it immediately after Death ; for they both argue against the deceaed Saints expecting any Resurrection of the body , that this implies the Soul to be in a kind of Purgatory or Disquietness , till the supposed Resumption of the body . Page 41. He chargeth G. K. to be guilty of belying the Magistrates at Philadelphia , Printing , That the Magistrates not only countenanced the hiring men to fight , but also gave them a Commission so to do , signed by Three Justices of Peace , whereof one was a Preacher , citing Appeal from the 28 , &c. And from thence he justifieth their Persecution against G. K. in fining him Five Pounds . But now how he proves this to be false , first , he saith , it was more than they had power to do , being Civil Magistrates . But this is no Proof ; for ignorant men , such as they were , might go beyond their power . However , he grants , if it was not a Commission , it was a Warrant of a Hue and Cry , signed but by Two Justices of Peace , and neither of them a Preacher . But what Proof brings he for this ? None but his bare Affirmation . But so it was , that some of them who received the Commission , told us , it was a Commission signed by Three Justices , whereof one of them was a Preacher . And when this very matter was debated before the Yearly Meeting at London , 3d mo . 1694. Samuel Jennings pretending it was not a Commission , but a Hue and Cry , Thomas Lower contradicted it in my hearing , and the hearing of many others , saying , it could be no Hue and Cry , for no Hue and Cry had any power to extend beyond dry Land ; but this was to go to the Water , which I leave to men better skill'd in Law to determine : However , whether a Commission , or Hue and Cry , which is but a Nicety of Phrase in Politicks and worldly Government , it confirms the substance of what was affirmed , That some Quakers signed a Paper , commanding and giving power to men , by Force of Arms , to retake a Sloop ; which is sufficiently known to be against the professed principles of the Quakers here in England , who have witnessed by divers Printed Books and Testimonies , That they are against all use of Carnal Weapons , so much as in self-defence , and have declared against Ship-masters , that were Quakers , their carrying Arms , so much as in self-defence . Page 41. Another falshood he chargeth on G. K. is , That he said , the Ministers there , viz. in Pensilvania . bad ingrossed the Worldly Government . And this he offereth to prove to be false , for there were many that were not Ministers , nor Quakers neither , then in the Government . But this he only saith , and it is a notorious Falshood , well known to them that lived there ; for on the contrary , very few , but Quakers , were Magistrates , and for most part Preachers , and these few that were not Quakers , nor Ministers , they were but as meer Cyphers , the Ministers ruled all , and did all , and the small number of the rest signified nothing , in that properly called the Province of Pensilvania ; and Ministers were not only justices , but Criminal Judges , a thing no where so practised , that I know , any where in Christendom beside . But however , whether G. K. was rightly informed in these Particulars , or not , that was not the Thing he was fined for , but for calling Sam. Jennings , an ignorant , presumptuous and insolent man , and saying , he was too high and imperious in worldly Courts . And this was and is well known to be a Truth ; And he since remains sufficiently under that Character . And have not many called Quakers , used greater liberty than all this , to reprove the Pride of greater Men in Magistracy here in England in Times past , under their sharp Persecutions ? And for a witness to it , let the Trial of William Penn and William Mead , Printed at London , declare , as well as other Printed Trials and Books , not a few . But it is but waste of Time and Paper to answer to all his Impertinencies . One thing is greatly worth noticing , That though these men showed great warmth to fine , imprison , and otherwse prosecute , for some pretended Offences against them , that were ( had they been real ) but small , and had better become them to have passed them by , being not against them as Magistrates , but as Quakers and Neighbours ; Yet they did not only tolerate , but support and countenance Persons guilty of blasphemous Speeches against both God and Christ , and with an unbounded Liberty , did abuse me in particular , as well as my Friends , one of them in a publick Meeting calling me , Wicked Fellow , another calling me Ranter , wicked Man , while I was in Prayer on my Knees , in the Meeting . And though they would not allow us to distinguish betwixt them , as being Quakers and Magistrates , yet they did so distinguish , when they told us , They were not for fighting , as Quakers , but as Magistrates , which how apt and proper a distinction it was for them to use , I leave to the intelligent to judge . Page 46. He saith , Now to be plain , This is to shew , That G. K. may be ( as well as others have been ) a man of great Knowledge in Chronology , yet being led by a Wrong Spirit , what doth it profit ? But how hath he proved , that G. K. is a man of a Wrong Spirit ? What One Evil Thing hath he proved against me in all his book , either in Doctrine or Conversation ? I know none : Though I have proved him guilty of many . And taking it for granted , That G. K. on extraordinary great Provocations and Abuses , did drop , once or twice , some unadvised ( yet true ) Expressions , doth this prove him to be a man of a Wrong Spirit ? He hath been more ingenuous than all his Adversaries , who have far exceeded him in heat and hard words , to acknowledge it , which I never knew that any of them did . Page 47. He pretends he has got a great Advantage against me , upon the Account of a Citation out of my book , called , Truths Defence , page 169. which he recites , though not so truly , as is in my book . But however , as it is , I agree to it , as to matter and substance . And though he saith , Page 53. That they do not question that in the least , that G. K. is of another mind now . It is a false Insinuation , I remain in the same mind still , That I would have nothing urged , nor pressed as Articles of Faith , but what is delivered to us in plain express Scripture-words ( which is the substance of that large Citation ) . And it is as false in him to say , That this was so often desired , but could not find place , viz to take their Confession in express words , for this we never refused : but I said again and again , We shall take your Confession in Scripture-words ( as many can bear me witness ) , provided ye will condemn your Errors that are contrary either to express Scripture-words , or to the plain and manifest Sense of them , obvious to every intelligent Christian . But this they would never do . And whereas he querieth , How know we that they have a Sense contrary to Scripture-words ? I answer , They have sufficiently discovered it , not only by One or Two unsound Expressions , but multitudes of them , as their Letters , and Manuscripts there , and the Printed Books here , sufficiently prove ; And we need go no further for a Proof , than the most gross and Antichristian Expressions and Sayings of Caleb Pusie himself , in this very Treatise . For whereas he hath plainly affirmed , p. 15. ad finem , That Jesus of Nazareth cannot be something else than the Light , Power and Spirit within . Now can there be any thing more contrary to express Scripture , than this Assertion ? Was not Jesus of Nazareth a real man , consisting of Soul and Body , in whom the fullness of the Godhead dwelt bodily , and who , above measure , was filled with all fullness of Grace and Truth : And is that Body , and that Soul , and that Fullness , nothing else but the Light within us ? Oh , Abominable Nonsense , and Perversion , and Contradiction to Scripture , and all true Reason ! He may as much say , The great body of water in the Ocean , with the Channels and Places that receive it , is nothing else than the River Thames , and that little narrow Tract of Earth in which it runs . And at this Rate , whatever is declared of Christ , as born at Bethlem , or conversing with his Disciples in Judea , teaching them , and working mighty Signs and Miracles among them ; And lastly , Crucified on the Tree of the Cross at Golgotha , must be understood of nothing else but the Light , Power and Spirit within . If this be not as great and gross Ranterism as ever was among men . I leave all sober Christians to Judge . Again , seeing he pretends so much to express Scripture , let him tell me , 1. Where doth the Scripture say , That Jesus of Nazareth is nothing else than the Light , Power and Spirit within ? I am sure it is no where to be found in the Holy Bible ; but in Antichrist's Bible it may be found , and is found . 2. Where doth the Scripture say , That the Light within is sufficient to salvation , without any thing else ? or that it is an Error to say , The Light within is not sufficient to salvation , without something else ? Which Two being contradictory , if the one be false , the other must be true . 3dly , Where doth the Scripture say , it is sufficient to Eternal Salvation , only to believe and obey the Light within , without all Knowledge and Faith of Christ Crucified and raised again , seeing the Scripture , plain contrarywise makes it the Terms of Salvation , in great part , to confess with the mouth , and believe with the heart , that God hath raised Jesus from the Dead , Rom. 10. 9 , 10. 4thly , Where doth the Scripture say , The Blood that was shed without the Gates of Jerusalem , is not that Blood whereby we are justified , which was John Humphreys Assertion , a Minister in Pensilvania , which we could never get him , nor any of you all , to condemn ; and no wonder ; for G. W. in his book , Light and Life , hath said as much . 5thly , Where doth the Scripture say , The bodies of the Saints , at the Resurrection , shall be other bodies in substance , from what they were here on Earth , which this Caleb Pusie hath affirmed 6 thly , Where doth the Scripture say , The Regeneration , or Conversion of the Soul , is only a purification from sin , as the washing of a body besmeared with dirt , when cleansed , is a Purification , and not a Transmutation , as Caleb Pusey hath also affirmed , as above ? And though I remain still in the same mind , That no Article of Faith should be urged on any but what is contained in plain express words of Scripture , ( or so agreeable to express Scripture , as the common sense of all mankind , that hears Scripture words , must acknowledge , as though it is not said , in Scriptures , That Egypt , Arabia , Palestine , Mesopotamia , are Places without us , yet common , Sense tells us so ) ; Yet I see not why I should be so confined to express Scripture words in things that I require no Man to own or believe , as Articles of Faith , but leave them to their Liberty , and others take their Liberty to use great variety of other words ; and I think I may say it without vanity , the manner of my Preaching and writing has been full as much Scriptural , as to Phrase , as most of the Preachers and Writers among the Quakers . As for his querying , pag. 56. where are the express Scripture words that say , The four hundred pieces of Silver that Abraham Purchased the Burying Place with , signifies four hundred Vertues . I Answer , The Scripture saith that as much , though not expresly , yet implicitly , as it saith , The Treasures we are to lay up in Heaven . are Spiritual and Divine Vertues , which are the true Riches , and the Wells that Abraham Digged , and Isaack , signified the Spiritual Wells of Water within them ; and Egypt signified the power of Darkness , and Canaan that slowed with Milk and Hony , signified the Kingdom of God , for the Old Testament abounds with such Allegories . But if any do not believe my interpretation by way of Allegory on that place of Scripture ( while they and I own the literal Sense ) or any others of the like nature , I am far from urging it upon them , but leave them to their free Judgment , and as God shall be pleased to Enlighten them . For there are many things both in my Book , called , Truth Advanced ( so reproachfully mentioned by him ) and in many other of my Books , wherein I may possibly differ from others in Judgment ; yet I leave them to their Liberty to Dissent , as I desire to be left to my Liberty , to believe as I judg God has perswaded me . But such as differ from me , so far , and so wide , as this Person doth , Caleb Pusie , and these of the Second Days Meeting , that have Countenanced and Approved his most Antichristian Doctrines , directly contrary to the great fundamentals of Christianity , affirming Jesus of Nazareth to be nothing else but the Light within ; and saying , The Light within is sufficient to Salvation , without any thing else ; so Excluding our Lord Jesus of Nazareth , his Death , and Sufferings , his Resurrection , Ascension , Mediation for us in Heaven ; all which are something else than the Light within , from being concerned in our Salvation , I can by no means own them to be my Christian Brethren , but esteem them to be worse than Mahometans , and than other Sober and Honest Heathens or Gentiles , for their opposing so great Truths so plainly exprest in Holy Scripture ; and it is not the Light in them , but gross Darkness that leads them into these abominable Errors , and the very Spirit of Antichrist Possesses them , and they are such Antichrists , concerning whom John Testified , 1 John 2. 18. and 1 John 9. 3. Every Spirit that Confesseth not that Iesus Christ is come in the Flesh , is not of God. And this is that Spirit of Antichrist , &c. For notwithstanding their seeming confessions to him , yet seeing they own not Justification by his Blood outwardly shed , and Salvation by Faith in him , as he Dyed for us , and Rose again , their Faith and Confession is vain , and Hypocritical . G. K. London , the 2d . of the 4th Month , 1696. Some REMARKS on John Pennington 's late Book , entituled , The People called Quakers cleared , &c. and G. Whitehead his Postscript . Shewing some of their gross Perversions , Flashoods , and Groundless Calumnies against G. K. Pag. 3. THeir blaming me for appointing a Meeting , to which their Consent was neither sought , nor made Necessary . Answ . They got timely Notice a Month before-hand , and were desired to be present and why might not I appoint a Meeting without their Consent , to Detect their Errors , and to show the Unjustness of their Sentence of Excommunication against me , as without my Consent , they appointed a Meeting to Excommunicate me ; I desired them again and again in former Prints to consent to Time and Place ; yea , to appoint Time and Place , and I should stand to their Appointment ; But they still refused , Offenders use not to consent to their Tryal . P. 3. Their charging me with Spleen and Malice . I reject as false and fictitious . P. 4. Their telling of two Books lying on my Hand unanswered , and my having given them Ground to expect an Answer to two of them . Answ . To the first , some of their own Church have sufficiently answered , to show the Badness of their Cause , in that Censure they gave against Thomas Elwood , which was read at the Meeting at Turner's-Hall , 11th . of the 4th . Month. 1696. and is Printed in the Exact Narrative , pag. 46. To the second , and all the other I answered at that Meeting , and have sufficiently detected their Abuses , Fallacies , Perversions , as well as False Doctrines ; though I have a great deal more in reserve . But all impartial Men will clear me of any blame , in not answering them in Print , when I have offered to Answer them viva voce , at a Meeting ; for there is no end of answering them in Print ; and they can , and do more securely Forge , Pervert , and Abuse their Readers and me also , in Print , because they know few will be at the pains to compare their Books with mine , to see who is innocent or blame-worthy : But Face to Face , and by Word of Mouth , it is easily made apparent ; and beside , as I have formerly told , to print Books to answer all their Books , is too great a Charge for me . P. 4. They alledge , ' I have vindicated their Principles from their Common Adversaries . Answ . Such as I did think were their Principles , I did formerly vindicate ; but most of them , which I did think were their Principles , I have found of late were not their Principles , though I retain them still as mine ; and I challenge them , or any Man , to prove , that ever I did vindicate any of these four abominable Principles , which I have proved G. W. and W. P. guilty of at the late Meeting , 11th . 4th Month , 1696. and whereof the late Printed Narrative gives an Account And though they alledge , I have changed my Principles , yet they have not made it to appear , nor I believe they ever shall , that in any one Article of the Christian Faith that are reckoned among the Simpliciter credenda , I have changed any one Principle , Only as to the Sense of some Places of Scripture , relating to Water-Baptism , and the Supper , I own I have changed my Mind , but to the better ; and also as to some other places of Scripture , improperly alledged to prove some real Truths . P. 4. to p. 10. As concerning these several Testimonies they bring out of my Books in all these pages , I own every one of them still , as things sincerely believed by me , and I believe by many others also , so far as they relate to Doctrine But that I held them forth as the Principles of the Teachers among the Quakers universally , or as the Principles of G. W. and W. Penn , seeing I have since found them so palbably to contradict them in their Printed Books , I freely acknowledge my shortness and mistake therein . But they most uncharitably alledge , That it is hardness in me , to have changed my Opinion , or Perswasion of these men , seeing they have given me so great and just occasion so to do , by boldly defending and excusing these vile Errors . The next thing they charge me with , is my Inconsistency and Self-contradiction ; but this is a False Charge , their manifest failure in their undertaking will sufficiently , I hope prove . The first Self-contradiction they think they have catched me in , is what they bring in pag. 111 , 2. viz. That I said , ( Nameless Bull , pag. 11. ) Seeing this true Faith is wrought in God's ordinary way by Preaching , therefore the true Faith of Christ's Death and Sufferings ought to be one of the first and chiefest things that every true Minister ought to Preach , &c. But they think I contradict this , [ Way to the City of God , pag. 3. ] The knowledge of his inward coming , is that which is the more needful , and in the first place , as being that by which the true and comfortable use of his outward coming is alone sufficiently understood . Answ . As I have somewhere else said , It is my Lot to have to do with Men , that have neither so much true Logick , nor Common Sense , as to understand what a true Contradiction is . Let any Man of common sense judge , if it be a contradiction , or least inconsistency to say , The true Faith of Christs Death is one of the first things that ought to be Preached , to bring Men to witness the true Faith of Christs Death , and being made Conformable to his Death : And also to say , The knowledge of his inward coming is the more needful in the first place : As it is no contradiction to say George Whitehead was one of the first Quakers in the North of England ; George Fox was the first Quaker . But for the better understanding of the Case , the distinction betwixt general Religion and Christian Religion , is to be considered , ( which distinction I have used in my Book , called Divine immediate Revelation and Inspiration continued in the true Church , Printed at London , 1684. and which was read and approved by the Second Days Meeting , when I was present , and therefore G. W. is bound to own what is in that Book , unless he will say , their Ministers are changed in their Principles ) see pag. 44. where I also distinguish betwixt general Revelation in Men , and special ; the general I said was common to all Mankind , the special given to true Christians . By general Revelation , ( which is that common illumination given to all Mankind , men are taught to know that God is , and that he is the maker of all things , and that he hath given a Law to Men , in their Hearts , which they are to obey ; and when they disobey this Law , they make themselves guilty before God ; and by this general Revelation , or illumination , Men generally know that they are Sinners , all having sinned ; and by this inward Law , and illumination , common to all men , is the knowledge of Sin , and of the Wrath of God , that is due for Sin : and by this General or Common illumination , many of the Gentiles came so far as the Servants state , and had acceptance with God as Servants , but were short of the state of Sons . because they had not the Faith in Christ Crucified , according to Gal. 3. 26. This same distinction of general and special Revelation , in other terms I held forth in my Book of Universal Grace , approved also by the Second Days Meeting and Printed in the Year 1671. which is about 25 Years ago ; see pag. 8 , 9 , 10. of that Book , where I largely treat of a twofold inward Appearance of Christ in Men , the first and second , and how the first prepareth for the second ; and how the first is not to be rested in , but that we ought to press forward into the second , pag. 9. ad finitum . And I said , the first was that of the Law , the second that of the Gospel , pag. 8 The former that of the first Covenant , the latter that of the second Covenant . And I say expresly , pag. 8. ' The Gospel lay hid within the Law , as within a Vail , which the outward Tabernacle did plainly figure and hold forth : And notwithstanding that I have held forth this distinction in Print 25 Years ago , yet many of my present Adversaries cry out against it as New Doctrine , and contrary to Friends Principles . And it most evidently appeareth from the express Words of my Book of Universal Grace , pag. 120. That I did not then hold that the Light within was sufficient to Salvation without any thing else , or without Christ's outward coming , and his Obedience , Sufferings and Death , ( as my Adversaries Caleb Pusie , and the Second Days Meeting that hath approved his Book do affirm , and as these Men also do , who have given out their Scandalous Book , called The People called Quakers cleared ) for I say expresly in that pag. 120. The Light within , and Christ's outward coming with his Obedience , Sufferings and Death , are both sufficient , useful and necessary in their own kind and way , Consummating , and being Consummate in another . And here Note , that though I did not say , Christ within , and Christ without , are two Christs ; yet I said his Light within , and his Coming in the Outward , with his Obedience , Sufferings and Death , were two things , Consummating and being Consummated in one another . Now to wipe off the Injurious Charge of my Adversaries G. W. and J. P. in this particular ( which I thank God , I can as easily do , and all other their Injurious Charges against me , as Paul did throw off the Viper from his Hand , I say conform to the Doctrine of my former Books , and in good Consistency with all the passages in them , the Light within ( which in a true sense is God and Christ the Eternal and Essential Word ) is to be Preached in the first place , to Heathens and Gentiles , or any other called Christians , who have not any true knowledge of God , or fear and reverence of him , and to all bold and presumptuous Sinners , and briefly to all Men whatsoever , not really and truly converted to the Christian Religion , to bring them in the first place to some knowledge of God , and some true fear and reverence of him , and also to some true knowledge and sense of their sinful state and condition , and that they are liable to the Wrath and Displeasure of God for their Sins ; all which are in good order previous or prior to the true Christian Faith , which is a Faith in Christ crucified and therefore may be Preached before that Faith. But that the Christian Faith it self may be received by Preaching , that Faith is one of the first things that is to be preached . as being one of the first Principles of the Christian Religion , as is clear from these Scriptures , Acts 20 , 21. where Repentance towards God , and Faith towards the Lord Jesus Christ , are joined together as first Principles of the Doctrine of Christ , compared with Heb. 6. 1 , 2. And these Ignorant Men so deeply Prejudicod against the Preaching of Christ Crucified ( to wit , G. W. and J. P. ) as being one of the first things needful to be Preached , and Faith in him , in Order to make Men true Christians , might by the same Silly Sophistry and Quibling , accuse Paul and John contradicting each other and inconsistent ; yea , the Holy Ghost himself , who did inspire them both , in what they wrot : For whenas Paul told the Corinthians , when he Preached the Gospel unto them , 1 Cor. 15. 3. that he delivered unto them First of All ( Note these Words , first of all ) that which he also received , how that Christ dyed for our Sins according to the Scriptures ; and that he was buried , and that he rose again the third day , &c. And yet John Preached not that the first thing , but began with Preaching the Word that was in the beginning , and how in that Word was Life , and the Life was the Light of Men ; and that Light was the true Light that lighteth every man that cometh into the world , John 1. 1. to 9. But in this there is no Contradiction nor Inconsistency betwixt Paul and John ; for John begins with that Principle of Doctrine that is necessary to General Religion , and to the Knowledge of God as Creator ; Paul begins with the Preaching CHRIST Crucified , as one of the first things necessary to Christian Religion , and the knowledge thereof : And such Order is necessary in teaching Practical Arts and Sciences , as in order to teach Astronomy , some first Principles of Arithmetick and Geometry are necessary to be taught in the first place , as to add and substract in Arithmetic , &c. And to make a Perpendicular Line , or draw a Paralel , to bisect an Angle , &c. Yet none of these are properly Principles of Astronomy , as it is a peculiar Science : But the first Principles of Astronomy are not to be taught before Arithmetick and Geometry , but after them . And so the first Principles of Medicine , are to be taught after the first Principles of the Physicks ; and thus the first Principles of Christian Theology are to be taught after the first Principles of Ethicks , or Ethology , which was the Gentile Religion , and which did teach many true and excellent things of God , as is to be seen in Aristotle's Ethicks , who wrote of 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 i. e. something Divine in Man , by which he could live virtuously ; and yet who but he that is no true Christian himself will say , that Aristotle's Ethicks , or Socrate's and Platoe's Morals , are enough to teach the Christian Theology . Thus I hope I have made it appear , that as my Adversaries have not proved me inconsistent with my self , so they have proved themselves inconsistent with true Christianity , and no true Christians in their Principles , but Heathens , and falling short of Heathen Morals , in Falsly accusing the Innocent , a Vice contrary to true Morality . The second part of their Charge , in pag. 10. is , That I did formerly hold that Christ's Inward coming saves , where the Outwardis unknown . But here they are guilty of gross Forgery and Perversion ; first of Forgery , seeing they cite no passage in any of my Books , where I express these Words , where the Outward is unknown , and seeing by their Words , where the Outward is unknown , they mean Christ's coming without us , I say they are guilty of grosly perverting my Words and Sense , as if I did hold , that Christ's inward coming saves , with Eternal Salvation , without all knowledge of Christ's outward coming ; and in contradiction to themselves , they grant I have distinguished betwixt the express or explicit Knowledge and Faith of Christ's Death and Sufferings , in order to Eternal Salvation , and the implicit Knowledge and Faith of it ; asserting this last , but not the first , as universa'ly and indispensibly necessary . They object against this distinction idlely and falsly , that it is said by me , pag. 14. ' That the distinction betwixt explicit and implicit , is a late distinction : But the place of my Book , cited by them , saith no such thing . But I mention how in divers of my late Books I have distinguished betwixt the express and implicit Knowledge and Faith ; but this proves it not to be a late distinction , for it is an antient distinction , and sufficiently implied and understood in my oldest Books , when I treat on that subject ; for whereas they confess that I have used the Word express in my oldest Books , that proveth that I did then make that distinction , though I did not express the other term of implicit , which though not expressed , yet was really understood by me , as in many cases it is enough to express the one Term or Member of a distinction , as when we call a Man a rational Creature though we express not the Word Irrational , yet we sufficiently distinguish betwixt a Man and a Bruit , that Man is rational , and a Bruit is irrational ; and when I say , some or many things commanded us , are jure divine , this sufficiently implyeth and intimateth , to any of common sense , that some things may be commanded us , that are not jure divino , but jure humano ; yea , all things done and practised by the People called Quakers , are not jure divine , as themselves confess ; therefore as jure divino implieth the other term of the distinction , when not expressed , viz. jure humano , so the term express implieth the other term implicit , though not expressed . And though my ignorant Adversaries would make their ignorant Followers think , this is only a new and odd , distinction of mine , yet all true and Orthodox Christians do hold it as well as I , and have used it , as they do at present , and hath its Foundation in Scripture ; for when Paul said , Ephes . 3. 6. That the Mystery , how that the Gentiles should be fellow Heirs , and of the same Body , and partakers of his Promise in Christ by the Gospel in other Ages was not made known unto the Sons of Men , as it is now revealed unto his Holy Apostles and Prophets by the Spirit , he plainly implieth this distinction , for in other Ages , yea , in all Ages it was at least obscurely and implicitly made known but not expresly as in Paul's Age , and the Ages succeeding ; and that Great Mystery of Christ is said by Paul , to have been kept secret since the world began , but now is made manifest , and by the Scriptures of the Prophets , according to the commandment of the everlasting God , made known to all Nations for the obedience of faith , Rom. 16. 25 , 26. Now what is made manifest but expres ? And what is kept secret , but implicit ? So that this very distinction , which my ignorant Adversaries blame in me as new and odd , is the very distinction of Paul in equivalent terms : And seeing they will not allow that distinction , as applied to the Knowledge of Christ without us , of express and implicit , it is plain they hold , that not any Knowledge , not the least grain of the knowledge of Christ without men , is universally necessary to Salvation , neither express nor implicit ; which how Antichristian and Unscriptural it is , I leave to all true Christians to judge . But why will they not allow it as well , with respect to the knowledge of Christ without us , as of Christ within us ? Will they say that Men may be saved without all knowledge of Christ within , either express or implicit ? If yea , then we shall see what ignorant Persons they allow shall be saved , and what a prodigious Ignorance they establish : If nay , then they must answer me with the same distinction in the same terms ; or in terms equilvalent ; and if they use that , or any other the like distinction , it shall be found new enough to them , at least as new , or rather much more new , as that I have used in this case : nor needs G. Whitehead blame me for using new Distinctions , seeing both himself and William Penn have used them in several Cases , to serve a turn ( a phrase they apply to me , pag. 19. ) as in excusing Geo. Fox his saying , Christ is not distinct from the Saints , the Soul is a part of God. And when they excuse Is . Pennington's saying , ' Can outward Blood cleanse ? And George Whitehead his excusing his former Sayings in divers of his old Books , ' that Christ is not in all Men. He comes off with this distinction of late , saying , ' He is not in all Men unitedly , or by union . Which distinction I used not only in my Book of Universal Grace , which was written in the Year 1669. ( though not printed till the Year 1671. ) but also in my Answer to the Thirty Queries , sent by the Bishop of Aberden , expresly mentioned in the Preface to Robert Barclay's Answer to VVilliam Mitchel , in his Preface to it , called , Truth cleared of Calumnies . The which Answer of mine to the said Thirty Queries , was given in the Year 1666. before R. B. printed any thing , or before he was a Quaker : And I the rather mention this my Answer to these Thirty Queries , because in these chief things which my Adversaries charge me to be changed in , my Faith is the same now , as it is there declared , as well as in my other Printed Books , which Answer I have in Manuscript writ 30 Years ago , Copies of which are in several Hands , and which I shall be ready to show to any sober Enquirers . And what pittiful , unsound , and odd , as well as new Distinctions , hath G. Whitehead used , to excuse G. Fox his saying , Your Gospel , Matthew , Mark , Luke , and John , are Dust and the Serpents Meat : He saying , It was to be meant of the Ink and Paper which would turn to Dust. But who did ever call the Ink and Paper the Gospel ? or who did ever think that the Serpent , which is the Devil , doth eat Ink and Paper ? Oh for shame ! let these Men cease to blame me for new Distinctions , when they have made so many False and Nonsensical new Distinctions , more Foolish than ever were heard of . And his excusing Solomon Eccles Blasphemy , in saying , The Blood that came out of Christ's Side , was no more than the Blood of another Saint : Behold his most Unlearned and Foolish Distinction , inconsistent with and contradictory to that known great Principle of the People called Quakers , That Christ dyed for all Men , and shed his Blood for all : His meaning was , said G. Whitehead , as to Papists and you , viz. Baptists , whose Minds are Carnol . But another idle impertinent Cavil they make against the distinction of express Knowledge of Christ's Death &c. and implicit , is , ' That I use that Word express as a word of Course , and of no ' Force , as when I said , That many of Adam's Posterity suffer disadvantage by his ' Disobedience , who never knew it expresly . But that ever any perished by Adam's Sin , who never knew it either expresly , or implicitly , as they alledge , seeing they bring no proof of it , I reject as false and fictitious : It is evident from the Heathen Philosophers Writings , and particularly from Plato , that they knew at least implicitiy the Fall of Man , and the degeneration of Mankind in general , for Plato not only mentions the Fall of Man but Tò 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , i. e. an imbred Evil in Men , that is born with them . And how can any Impartial Reader that reads my Books , when I so oft caution , restrict and limit the Words on that subject , with the term Express ; and at other times , with the Words clear Distinct Knowledge ; and at other times , with the Words Historical , Outward Knowledge ; all which , and the like Words , R. Barelay hath used in several Places of his Apology , after my Method , and divers Years after I used that Method of Expression ; and I well know we were of One Mind in that thing , and I published his Latin Theses in Holland first of all , and carried them over with me out of Scotland , at his desire ; whereof I can bring sufficient Witness ; and we used to Discourse together frequently on that Subject , and both of us on purpose used these Cautions and Restricted Words , as express , clear , distinct , historical , outward , and in the outward ( viz. in the outward History , or Letter ) to signifie , that we did not intend that any were saved with Eternal Salvation without all Knowledge or Faith of Christ without , though without the express they might , and still may , where it is not revealed . And they are as Nonsensical and Ignorant , in seeking to marr my Distinction ( by falsly alledging , I have marred it ) by their dictator-like , saying , There is no Medium between knowing very darkly in Vails , and Figures ( implicitly in a very obscure Degree ) and not knowing at all , pag. 15. But to confute their Ignorance , let any Man of common Sense answer me ; Is there no Medium between knowing very Darkly , and not knowing at all ? Is the Particle or little Word [ very ] Superlative in the highest Degree ? or is it not rather Comparative ? Is there no medium betwixt a Mans being very ignorant , and knowing nothing at all ? If there be none , then by George Whitehead's Logick , ( who hath either writ this Book that I answer , or approved it ) because he is very Ignorant , ( as I have sufficiently proved ) he knoweth nothing at all . But surely the most ignorant may and do know some things ; therefore G. W. is as ignorant in true Logick , as in true Divinity . Another Forgery and Perversion they put upon my Words , in pag. 15. when they make me say , Men have been saved without the express Knowledge of the one , viz. Christ's outward coming , but not of the other , viz. his inward coming . But I never said or thought any such thing , I have judged charitably , and so I still judge that many have been saved , and may be saved without the express Knowledge , as truly of his inward coming as of his outward ; for many have felt and enjoyed the blessed Vertue and Power of Christ within them , and so have had an implicit knowledge of it , and it hath been saving to them , though they had not that clear and express knowledge to call it by all , or many of these Names that the Scriptures call it by expresly ; and shall we say they must all perish , who though they own the Grace and Spirit of Christ , and its operation in them , yet are shy and fearful to call it Christ in them ; and to be sure , as few of the Gentiles knew this inward Principle of Truth in them , by the express Knowledge and Names of Jesus and Christ , as knew him to be Man in the outward by these Names . And here Note , that ten several times at least in the Words and Passages they have quoted out of my Books , they bring me in , using the Word Express still , saying , The Express Knowledge and Faith of Christ's Death is not universally necessary to Mens Salvation . And seeing in all my late Books , and also at present , I say the same . I appeal to all moderate Persons of common sense , if this be any contradiction , or rather doth not this false and unfair way of their Arguing , evidently prove them wonderfully ignorant and blinded with Prejudice against me : and let any School-Boy , or Tiro , or Person of Common Sense judge , if these two Propositions held by me , and thousands more are contradictory , The express Knowledge and Faith of Christ is not necessary to all that shall be saved . Some Knowledge and Faith of Christ is necessary to all that shall be saved : Even as whether these two Propositions be contradictory , The clear Light of Sun , Moon , Fire or Candle , is not necessary to see and read with ? Some light of Sun , Moon , Fire , or Candle is necessary to see and read with . Their next Head is , pag. 23. That I said in my former Books , the Inward Principle is to be Preached in the first place , and the Effects thereof . Answ . This I grant still , and how and in what sense , in the Words aforegoing I have sufficiently declared , and I further add , That some true knowledge of God springing from the Inward Principle , in concurrence with the serious Consideration of the Works of Creation and Providence is necessary as previous and prior to the knowledge of Christ's Death and Sufferings for our Sins ; for in God's ordinary way , we are first taught that there is a God , before we are taught that there is one only Son of God , that proceeded from him by an Eternal Generation , and who became the Son of Man by Generation in the Fullness of Time. The first of these Lessons or Doctrines belong to all Men to know ; and they are rather Bruits than Men who know it not . The second of these Lessons is proper and peculiar to Christians , and may well be called at least one of the first things needful to be preached , known and believed among them called Christians ; and as the Doctrine of Christ's outward coming is truly and duly Preached by enlightned and well qualified Preachers , that more excellent and peculiar Influence and Ministration of the Spirit , that accompanies the Faith of Christ crucified , is also preached ; and not only preached , but freely given and imparted by God , through Christ , to all such who hear it and believe it sincerely as it is preached . Therefore what is necessary in the first place to be preached to them that have little or no true Knowledge of God , or of an Inward Principle , is one thing , and what is first to be preached in order to bring Men to the Christian Faith and Religion more immedately and proximately , is another : as what is necessary in the first place to be Preached , to Men , that they may know God , and believe in him , as a Creator , King , and Lord over all , is one thing ; and what is necessary to be preached to Men in the first place , that they may know God , and believe in him as a Gracious Father , pardoning their Sins freely for Christ's sake , and accepting them in him and that also they may believe in Christ crucified , is another thing : All which proveth sufficiently what I have delivered both in my former and latter Books , to be well consistent on this very Head , viz. That the Faith of Christ's Death and Sufferings is one of the first Principles of the Christian Religion , and therefore is so to be preached , together with the Resurrection of the Dead , and Eternal Judgment , and Repentance from dead Works , according to Heb. 6. 1 , 2. which according to the Greek , is there called The Word of the Beginning of Christ. But what do my Adversaries bring against me on this Head , to prove my Self-contradiction ? Nothing at all ; therefore they show themselves stronger in Falsly Accusing , than in justly Proving . Their following Head is pag. 25. Where they charge me with a Self-contradiction in saying , The Gentiles were savingly enlightned , who knew not the History of Christ's outward coming , &c. And they think I contradict my self , when I said in my Book , called A further Discovery , pag. 10. of one called a Friend , that lately Preached , That he was a bold ignorant Soul , for preaching , that the Blood which cleanseth from all Sin , was the Life , and the Life is the Light , calling it a perverse Exposition . I Answer ; That it is a perverse Exposition , and that he who gave it , was a bold ignorant Soul , I still affirm , and I charge them to be guilty of gross Forgery , until they prove that I have said the same , and gave that Exposition on that place of Scriptrue , 1 John 1. 7. which I do not in the least remember ; but no proof they bring any where that I have so said ; and their Argument is Fallacious and Deceitful like themselves , that because I have said , It is the Life that saveth , Rom. 5. 10. citing pag. 115. of my Book called Universal Grace , therefore that by Blood in that place 1 John 1. 7. I did mean the Life , which is the Light within : And the Fallacy and Sophistry of their Argument lieth in this , that because I have granted the Life within saveth , or cleanseth from Sin , that therefore the Blood mentioned , 1 John 1. 7. is the Life . Now if I had said , Nothing but the Life within saveth , or cleanseth from all Sin , they might have justly so argued : But seeing I ever held as I do at present hold , that there are several concurring Causes in the great Work of our Salvation , and cleansing from Sin , which though agreeing in one Harmony , yet the one Cause is not the other , therefore their Argument is as vain and false , as who did argue , the little Mustard-Seed causeth the Herb Mustard to grow , and the Earth in which it is sown causeth it to grow , and the Sun and Rain cause it to grow , therefore that little Seed is the Earth , is the Sun , and is the Rain . Our Salvation and cleansing from Sin , dependeth on divers Causes ; 1st . chiefly on God , who gave his Son to Dye for us ; 2dly . on Christ , who shed his Blood outwardly to cleanse us from Sin ; 3dly . on the Spirit , Life and Grace of Christ inwardly given us , helping and enabling us by a Living Faith , to apply the Merit , Virtue , and Efficacy of that Blood of Christ outwardly-shed , for our Salvation , and cleansing both from the guilt of Sin , and the inward filth and stain of it . But before I finish my Answer to this Head , let me give Notice to the Reader of several gross Perversions , Falsities , and Abuses they put on my Sound Words , cited in their several pages , on these last Heads , from pag. 15. to pag. 33. First , in pag. 16. they pervert my Plain Words , where I said , Though Prophets and Apostles preached him as in the Form of a Man ; yet they preached him also , and that more generally , as a Light to the Gentiles , yea , and to Jews also : Where they put a false and perverse sense upon the Word more generally , as if I did signifie by it more frequently , which I did not ; but by more generally , I did and do understand , that his Inward Appearance by his Light and Grace in Men , is , and ever was more general than his Outward Appearance , in the outward and visible form of a Man ; therefore what was in it self more general they Preached it to be so ; but this doth not infer that they Preached him more frequently within Men , than without them , for if they preached , as they wrote , in their Writings , where once we read of Christ within , we read some Scores of times , of Christ , as he was outwardly manifest , was Born , Dyed , Buried , Rose again , Ascended , and is gone into Heaven , where he remains our Advocate , and Mediator with the Father . Secondly , They perversely infer from my Words , that whereas I formerly made the Knowledge and Faith of the History of Christ's outward coming not essential to Religion , now I did make it essential . But in this they are guilty of palbable Forgery ; for as none of the citations they bring , prove it , so I do not remember that ever I so said or writ ; but the Knowledge and Faith of the History is one thing ; and the implicit Knowledge and Faith of Christ , as he is without us , is another thing ; and therefore for them thus to confound thing , so differing , argueth great Ignorance , or Prejudice ; and however it argueth great Falsity and Unfair Dealing . Thirdly , That they make it an Inconsistency and Contradiction in me to have formerly said , Cornelius was a Devout and Religious Man , one whose Prayer God heard ; and yet of late to have said , Cornelius had not the Holy Ghost in his Gentile estate , although he had a great measure of Gentile Sincerity and Righteousness . But this is no real Contradiction , although it may seem so to their Ignorance and Darkness ; it is easie to show out of Scripture , that none had the Holy Ghost , or are said to have the Holy Ghost , but Believers in Christ Crucified , who did witness that special Office of the Holy Ghost to sanctifie them , by giving them the Holy Faith in Christ crucified . And though the Holy Ghost is holy , as well in his Nature , as in his special Office of sanctifying them , who witness his indwelling in them , and union with him , yet he is commonly called so in Scripture , by virtue of his special Office and ●nfluence in the Hearts of Believers ; and therefore as he is not said to be the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit in wicked men , so nor in pious Gentiles , or in such only , as are but as Servants , and under the first Ministration of the Spirit , and G. Whitehead's distinction , how Christ is not in all men , will serve in this case as well for me , as for him , to wit , by Union , which I think was mine in Print , before it was in Print his , according to which as Christ is only said to live and dwell in true Believers in Christ , even CHRIST Crucified , and none but such have Christ by a real Interest in him , and right to him , as a Woman hath to her true Husband ; So none but true Believers have the Holy Ghost , or the Spirit of Christ , to wit , by Union , Right and Interest , for that is only the Portion of Children not of Servants , as it was said of Abraham , he gave Gifts to the Children of Keturah , but he gave All , to wit , the Inheritance to Isaac : so God giveth Gifts to such as are but only Servants in his House , but giveth himself , and his dear Son , and Holy Spirit , to be the Inheritance of his Children . And as to their Question , which they think in their Ignorance is unanswerable , ' Whether any Prayer is heard by God , but what is put by his Spirit ? I Answer , Nay , but Servants and Pious Gentiles , such as Cornelius was in his Gentile state , may be , and are helped to Pray by the Spirit , having the Influence of the first Ministration of the Spirit , which though remotely Preparatory , yet doth not instate the Soul into union with the Spirit , that being reserved for the second Ministration of the Spirit , that is more noble , and enableth the Soul that hath it , not only to Pray more effectually and acceptably , but also to perform all other Acts of Love and Obedience . And were not my Adversaries extream blind and ignorant , they might understand how the Apostle calleth one and the same Spirit , in them who are but Servants , the Spirit of servitude ( so the Greek ) and in them who are Sons , the Spirit of Adoption Rom. 18. 5. And elsewhere he distinguisheth thus , calling the one the Spirit of Fear and the other the Spirit of Power , of Love , and of a Sound Mind , 1. Tim. 1. 7. Which are thus distinguished , not in Nature and Being , but in Office. And here let it be noted , how by these mens arguing , That Men may be eternally saved , perfectly sanctified , and endued with the Holy Ghost , who have no Faith or Knowledge of Christ without them ; do sufficiently declare what Heathens they are , and of what little value they make the Faith and Knowledge of Christ crucified , and that their Religion is nothing but Deisne , under a Mask & Disguise of a Christian Profession . Fourthly , They make it an Inconsistency and Contradiction in me , to have said , pag. 22. That many who never had the Scriptures , if they have been faithful unto God , in what he hath revealed unto them , by the Light of Christ in them ; who dare or can say , that they have not been accepted , yet not without Faith in Christ in some measure ; for they that believe in the Light believe in Christ , who is that Light. Citing Rector Corrected , pag. 150. But where is my Contradiction here ? Did I ever say , That men may believe in the Light , or Christ within , and never at any time from first to last believe in Christ without , either expresly , or implicitly : For this they bring no proof , and I believe they can bring none . Fifthly , In pag. 26. they most Ignorantly and Antichristianly blame my sound Christian Assertion , where I say , The work of Sanctification is ascribed in Scripture to Christ's Blood and Sufferings , as well as to his Inward Appearance , and to both indispensably necessary , and to Faith therein . Thus we see plainly they place all upon Christ within , and nothing upon Christ without . O bold Antichristianism ! published in the Face of a Nation prosessing Christianity : But wherein I have contradicted that Assertion , they show not . 6thly . They bring me in guilty of a Contradiction , for saying , Nor is the outward Name that which saveth , but the inward Nature , Virtue and Power signified thereby , which was made manifest in them &c. But they no where shew how I contradict this . I say still , It is not the outward Name either of God , or Christ , that saveth , without the Inward Nature , Virtue and Power ; which Inward Nature , Virtue and Power , dwelt and dwells in all Fullness in the Man Christ Jesus , and of whose fullness we all receive , and Grace for Grace ; and all that believe in him , who hath the fullness , they receive rich supplies out of his Fulness daily of more Grace ; which they that do not believe in him , do not receive . Seventhly , They charge me with Contradiction , because formerly I said , That these Gentiles had the Gospel preached unto them , who were not under any outward Administration of the Gospel . But they bring no place to prove where I contradict this Assertion , as I do not at present contradict it , but own it in a true sense ; and the former Distinction will serve here , of express and implicit , and I still grant , that the Gospel implicitly is Preached to all Men , in some measure , after some sort ( Samuel Fisher calls it a Gospel-Dram , somewhere in his Rusticus ad Academicos , as I have read it in him ) but few have obeyed it , as so preached ; but whoever did obey it , I question not , but they were accepted . But here let it be Noted , that whereas they would divert the Main Part and Branch of the Question which was and is betwixt them and me , of the Necessity of our Faith in Christ crucified to our Salvation who are professed Christians , wholly to the Case and State of the Gentiles , who have it not outwardly Preached to them by the Ministry of Men , or Books , I have sufficiently proved against them at our late Meeting at Turners-Hall , 11th . of the 4th . Month , 1696. And in the printed Narrative , that they have affirmed , That it is not necessary to our Salvation , to believe that Christ dyed for us , &c. This Charge lyeth at their Door , which is the main Thing in Question . But how the most Pious and Upright among the Gentiles were saved by Faith in Christ Crucified , who had not Faith outwardly Preached , is neither the great or chief Question , nor so proper for us to determine , seeing God hath ways to have done it , unknown to us , whose Ways are above our Ways , as the Heavens are above the Earth ; and it may be one of these Secret things that belong to God , and not to us , till he please to reveal it . Eightly , pag. 30. They charge me with a Contradiction , for saying , He ( Christ ) left not the other Nations destitute of the Main and Principal Thing , even the Manifestation of the Light , &c. which would have given them the Knowledge of God , &c But if they think , or would have others to think , that by the Main and Principal Thing , I meant the Light within , compared with Christ without , in whom all fulness of Light and Grace dwelleth , they both deceive themselves and seek to deceive others ; For by my following words , it is manifest , I call the Light within the Main Thing , in Comparison with outward Things , as is plain from my following words , cited by them , out of my Book , pag. 12. Universal Grace , and not in Comparison with Christ without , in whom the Fulness of Light dwells . As for their suggestion of my holding the Revolution of Humane Souls , in pag. 31. and more particularly in pag. 3. of G. Whitehead's Postscript , who calls it my Notion of Twelve Revolutions of Humane Souls , they have rendred themselves so foolishly impertinent as well as malicious , thinking thereby to cast a great Odium upon me , for holding such an odd Opinion , that I need say little or nothing in answer to them , having so fully and plainly in the openness of my Heart answered to that Charge , in my Printed Treatise , called , Truth and Innocency Defended , in Answer to John Delavall , who was one of the first that charged me with the same , and since that , no less than Four several Persons have charged me with it in Print , whereby they have sufficiently manifested both their Folly and Malice , besides the many Whisperings and Mutterings they have used , and spread abroad against me , far and near on that account , their Folly is sufficiently manifested , that not one of all my Accusers have brought the least Authentick Evidence against me , to prove their Charge . And as I have fully cleared my self in the case , in my Answer above-mentioned , Printed at Philadelphia some Years ago ; so in my Appendix to the Book , called , The General History of the Quakers , lately Printed at London , in this Year 1696. But let us hear G. W. his Evidence , to prove his Charge against me : He saith , That I argued from these Scriptures , John 11. 9. Psal . 90. 4. 2 Pet. 3. 8. and some others , If I mistake not , saith he , ( Is this like Infallible George Whitehead ? ) If he says I do , let him give us a plain State of his own Opinion herein . Now would such an imperfect and lame Evidence pass current before any Judicatory , The thing is so and so , if I mistake not . And as to the Manuscript he mentions that I shewed him ; it is true , there was such a Manuscript , which I read both to him and George Fox , wherein I did undertake to Answer to some Objections against the Universal Principle ; and there were some things in that Manuscript modestly proposed , concerning the Revolutions of some Souls , but no ways as any positive Conclusion , but simply as an Hypothesis , or Supposition ; and if such a Manuscript , or the Contents of it were such a Crime in G. K. to render me an Apostate , and gone from Truth , why did not G. Whitehead before twelve Years past , ( for so long ago it is since that Manuscript was read to him ) deal with me , by giving me Gospel-Order , since what I had writ in that Manuscript was so offensive to him , after his telling me my Fault in private , and I not amending , should he not have observed Christ's order to have taken with him one or two more , Matth. 18. 6. And if I did neglect to hear them , to tell it to the Church , that they might have dealt with me . But he having done none of this ( only showing somewhat of his private dissatisfaction with the Hypothesis , which he could not charge upon me as positive , as neither he did ) Is not he much more blame-worthy ? and hath he not brought a great Reflection on himself , and also on George Fox , that they did so Connive at my supposed great Error , and so long , yea , and for all that time thereafter to own me as a Friend in Truth , as they both did , and writ to me from England to America , calling me dear George Keith ( yea , G. Fox in his Letter , particularly desired me to visit Friends in New-England , and to travel in the Service of Truth in that Country ; as accordingly I did ) until now , that G. Whitehead hath risen up against me , and raised up also many with him against me , for no other Cause , as is well known , but for opposing the Vile Errors I found among them , both there in America , and here in England . And whereas some in Print and George Whitehead in writing has accused me of Hypocrisie , for having formerly called him dear George Whitehead , and since that I have changed my thoughts concerning him ; If it be no Hypocrisie in him , to have formerly called me so , and yet now to have other thoughts of me ; why should he make it hypocrisie in me , to have done but that to him , which he hath done to me ? Doth not this prove him guilty of Hypocrisie with a witness . But leaving G. Whitehead a while , let me return a little to the Book . Postscript , pag. 32. When they cannot by fair and direct means , prove their charge against me , to render me odious , they essay to do it by unfair , that is by their Consequences , not so much from my Words , but from the Words of Scripture , as from my saying , in Truth Advanced , pag. 23. As it is observed by some , neither Adam , nor any of his Posterity , living a compleat Thousand Years , which in Scripture signifies sometimes a Day , Psal . 90. It may be said , he lived not a whole Day : Now ( say they ) that this is a Principle of the Revolutionists , is plain to all that know their Principles and that it is his also , is manifest . But what a lame Evidence and Argument is this , let all intelligent Persons judge : If they had said , It is the alone Principle of the Revolutionists , and proved it so , they had argued somewhat to the purpose . Sure I am Just in Martyr held it , for I have read it in him ; Doth it therefore follow that he was a Revolutionist ? If it doth , then the Notion of the Revolutions is not so great a Crime , as to render a Man an Apostate , or gone from Truth : And not only Justin Martyr , but many others , Worthy , Antient , and late Christian Writers have held the same Principle , that a thousand Years in Scripture sometimes signifies a Day , and particularly the renowned L. Neper of Mareheston , in his Exposition on the Revelation . Surely these Men have greatly missed their aim , who thinking to disgrace and reproach me with the Revolutions , by allowing me so good company , Men highly esteemed for their Christian Piety , have rather contrary to their Designs , greatly honoured me ; but Malice is always Blind , and throws its Possessor into the Ditch , he makes for another . And if the reckoning a Thousand Years for a Day , prove the Revolutions , I shall not only have the above-named worthy Persons for my Companions , but David , or ( as others think Moses , see the Title of that Psalm ) and Peter , who both so reckoned Psalm 90. 4. compared with 2 Pet. 3. 8. But that these Men may still give me more good Company , they will needs have Paul to bear me company in the Notion of the Revolutions , and long after him Beza , a Renowned Man among Prot stants , both for Piety and Learning : for thus they argue from my Words , or rather the Words of Paul and Beza's Translation , pag. 42. Truth Adv. who are under the Law , and obey it , according to what their Ability doth reach , they are held there as in a Custody , or Place of Safety , as the Man slayer in the City of Refuge , in the time of the Law , till the Faith came to be revealed . This Word , ( say they ) till the Faith came to be revealed , is a plain Indication of his Notion , though he dare not defend it ; for they dying in this City of Refuge ( say they ) when should the Faith be revealed to them , except in some other Revolution . Now that they make Paul and Beza equally alike guilty with me , in the case of the Revolutions , will be plain , if the Words of Paul , Gal. 3. 22. 23. be but well considered . Let us look back a little to the 19th . Verse , Wherefore then serveth the Law , it wa● added because of Transgressions , till the Seed should come , to whom thē Promise was made . [ This Seed was Christ , according to the Flesh , together with the Spiritual Blessings of Life that accompanied him ] Then Vers . 22. But the Scripture hath concluded all under Sin , ( not only Jews , but Gentiles , who had no other Law , but the Law within ] that the promise by Faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe . But before Faith came , we were kept under the Law , [ Note , Beza doth excellently well translate it , according to the Greek , sub legis presidio in his Latin Transsation , i. e. Under the safeguard of the Law we were kept ] shut up unto the Faith which should afterwards be revealed . Where a manifest Allusion is made , or rather a real Exposition , by way of Anti-Type , answering to that Old Testament-Type of the Man-slayer , that was kept safe in the Custody of the City of Refuge , though as a Prisoner , or confined , until he heard of the Death of the High Priest . Now let the Intelligent Reader judge , whether there be any real difference in Sense betwixt Paul's Words , Unto the Faith which should afterwards be revealed , and my Words , Till the Faith come to be revealed ; and if my Words infer the Revolutions , do not Paul's Words infer them as much , or rather more ? he using the Word afterwards , which I use not . Well , if they judge me guilty of the Revolutions , and condemn me to be an Apostate , and gone from Truth on that account , while they give me so good Company , as Moses , David , Peter and Paul , I need not fear great Reproach to fall on me for the same . But in very deed , they said well , that I dare not defend it , as I never did ; but this not daring to defend it , did not proceed in me , nor doth from fear of being defamed ; for if I were perswaded and assured of it , as I am of the great Truths of the Christian Faith , I should not fear to avouch it . But seeing I pretend to no such assurance in the case , as I never did , nor ever was positive to conclude it so much as in my secret thoughts , therefore I let it alone , neither justifying nor condemning what I have no certain knowledge of . And but that it would be too tedious a digression , and not so proper here I could easily shew how weak their Arguments are against it , as it is common to them as well as others , to use weak Arguments to defend Truth , and oppose what they call Errour . And let them make the worst of it they can , suppose that twelve Years ago , most of which time since they have owned me in Unity with them , I was in an Error in holding the Revolutions , will that prove I hold them still ? And seeing they judge me changed greatly in my Principles of late Years , why may they not judge me also changed in that ? Or what ground have they to think I am not ? If they say , because I have not cleared my self of the Charge : I say , I have done it sufficiently several times in Print , and oft by Word of Mouth , That I hold it not either as any Article of the Christian Faith , or as any positive Dogma in Philosophy ; yet I dare not , nor will not positively condemn it universally , until I see better and stronger Arguments than they have as yet brought against it . And if it be so great and dangerous an Error , why do they not refute it in Print , and Answer to all these things brought in favour of it , as a probable Hypothesis in the 200 Queries , which hath been in Print upwards of 12 Years ? For they have Scribled and Printed many Books , on Matters far less material than this is . But since G. Whitehead hath Printed that which I committed to him as a Secrecy , without my Consent , it s well it was no such Matter as might have brought any real Infamy on me , it s too probable if he could have revealed any Secret that would have taken away my Life , he would have done it . But I had no such Secret to impart to him , or any , that I need be afraid or ashamed for their revealing it . Pag. 33. In their Head on the Glorified Bodies of Christ and the Saints , they are Guilty of such gross Perversions , as none but Men infatuated would be : They infer , That I have very Carnal Conceptions of the Resurrection at present , like those Sadduces , Matth 22 29. And why ? Because I say in Truth Adv. pag. 11. Paul distinguisheth between the Belly and the Body , saying , God will destroy the Belly , but he doth not say he will destroy the Body ; for seeing after the Resurrection of the Dead , Men shall need none of the Meats of this corruptible World , nor shall they need a Belly to put them in , as Guts , and Draught , or any gross parts as Men have now . Let the Reader observe these mens Infatuation and Nonsense : Do these Words prove that I have Carnal Conceptions of the Resurrection , like those Sadduces ? Did not the Sadduces altogether deny the Resurrection ? But doth my saying , that after the Resurrection of the Dead , they shall need neither Belly , Guts , nor Draught , nor any gross parts , prove that they shall have them ? O astonishing Blindness ! And they are again guilty of the same Perversion , or rather downright Forgery , in their pag. 34. ad finem , by their most false insinuating against me , as if I did hold , That the Resurrection-Bodies of the Saints shall have Belly , Guts and Draught : For ( say they ) had G. K. retained these Sentiments ( of Spiritual Bodies ) when he wrote his bulky Book , stiled Truth Advanced , he needed not have told us of Belly , Guts , and Draught . But how did I tell them , that Men after the Resurrection shall have them ? By no means , but that they should not have them , because they shall have no need of them ; and surely what they need not , they shall not have ; as not to need , in Scripture-phrase , is not to have , Rev. 21. 23. But that I remain in my Ancient Faith of the Resurrection-Body as formerly , is clear from that very Book , cited by them , to wit , That the Body that is raised shall be a Spiritual Body , not gross material Flesh , but wonderfully changed in manner and condition , yet retaining the same Substance , the Husk or drosly part excepted ; see particularly pag. 113 , and 119. ad finem . And that this was my Faith thirty Years ago , is evident from my Answer to the 30 Queries of the Bishop of Aberdene above-mentioned , and particularly noticed in the Collection of R. Barclay's Books , called Truth Triumphant , pag. 2. In which Answer that was extant thirty Years ago , I expresly say , in answer to the Bishop's Question , which was , Shall that same Body in Substance which dyeth , be raised again at the last Day ? Answer , Yea , as far as a Natural Body , and Spiritual Body is the same : It is sown a Natural Body , it is raised a Spiritual Body . Where it is plain , I both believed and declared , it shall be the same Body in Substance that dyeth , and shall be raised , though wonderfully changed in Condition and Quality from Natural to Spiritual . And this Answer was given in the Year 1666. being the third Year after I came among the Quakers , and which I gave , conform to John Crooks Words in his Truths Principles , wherein I judged him ( before ever I saw him ) to be of the same Mind and Faith with me , in that great Article of the Christian Faith , as well as in others ; and since that , I have spoke with him , and had it from his own Mouth . Pag. 35. As to their 5th Head , concerning Water-Baptism and the Supper , whereon they spend seven pages , reciting some Passages in my former Books , with their Uncharitable Observations , and they are at great pains to show an Inconsistency and Contradiction betwixt my former Books , and my late Book , called Truth Advanced , in reference to Water-Baptism , and the Supper , and that from some few Queries I proposed at the end of that Book , only proposed by way of Query , and not as Positive Conclusions ; for I expresly distinguish them from the Positive Conclusions going before , being each ten in number . And as to the Ten Positions , I judge many or most called Quakers , of the more intelligent sort will stand by them , and may well enough own them , without any Inconsistency to their former Principles . And here I appeal to the Impartial Readers , whither it be not great disingenuity in them , to charge these Queries ( simply proposed by me as Queries , but plainly distinguished from Positions ) upon me , as plain Positions when to some of their unsound Assertions expressed as Queries , but whose plain Sense did import them to be Positions , they have made that excuse , They did but Query , as lately at Turners-Hall some of G. Whitehead's Advocates did plead in his behalf . Is this to do as they would be done by ? And how extreamly Uncharitable they show themselves , not to me only , but to all Christendom , in so severely accusing me , for my Charitable Title to these Queries , saying — tending to Love , Peace , and Unity among all the Sincere Professors of the Lord Jesus Christ ; who hold the Head , and build on the true Foundation , and yet differ in some lesser matters , they so severely tax me for this , as by their Censure it is evident , they think none such to be found in all Christendom , but themselves , who hold the Head , and build on the true Foundation : for thus they say , VVhich whosoever pleases to bestow the reading on , will see whose Communion he labours to insinuate himself into next , as holding the Head , and only differing in some lesser Matters . But unless they be so Unchristianly uncharitable , ( as they too evidently show they are ) as to judge none in Christendom differing from them in Profession , to hold the Head , or are sincere Professors of the Lord Jesus Christ , but they only ) Why should I be blamed for owning my Christian Communion with them , in things that are not simply unlawful ? Ought I not to be of David's Mind , who said , I am a Companion of all them that fear thee ? &c. But more particularly as to the Case of Water-Baptism , and the Supper , as I have freely declared of late Years , viva voce , so now as freely I publish it in Print , That I am not ashamed to own my general Mistakes I have been under concerning divers Places of Scriptures , particularly relative to Water-Baptism and the Supper , as Matth. 28. 19. and 1 Cor. 11. 26. and some other places of Scripture , relative to some other matters , especially in the Misapplication of some places , to prove certain Truths , which these places did not prove , ( a thing but too common to many Writers , and to none more than to some called Quakers ) for though every place of Scripture prove some Truth , yet every place proves not that Truth in particular which some may bring for to prove it ; and I am so far from being ashamed to publish this Confession , that I have great Peace and Joy in it ; and I also declare , that I am justly ashamed , that I have been so long deceived and byassed with such weak Arguments , as both they called Friends and I have used , ( being too much influenced and byassed by their pretended authority ) to perswade and draw away the Minds of People from the true Sense of these places of Scripture . And the Arguments that we have mostly used against these two things , are so weak , that they have the same force against the Bible it self , and all Books and outward Testimonies , and outward acts of Worship , and therefore are void in themselves ; for seeing they have no force against the latter , they have as little against the former . However I continue in my faithful Testimony against the abuse of these things , and the dead , empty and formal way that too many practise them ; and except the Lord be found to bless and accompany them who use them , with his Power and Spirit , they are but as empty Shadows , and Shells : But who find the Lord to bless them with his Presence , I judge them not ; and in this I am not singular , for divers of good Note among the People called Quakers , even Preachers , have said the same , or equivalent , as particularly John Crook , and Robert Barclay : And it can no more be an evidence of my Apostacy , to correct my former Mistakes on these two places of Scripture , Matth. 28. 19. and 1 Cor. 11. 26 Which mistakes of mine , were , That I judged the Apostles were not commanded to practise these things , and did not practise them by Command , but by Permission , of which I am now convinced of the contrary , more than it will prove John Crook an Apostate , which they will not dare to say , who hath owned the same , viz. ' That the Apostles and Primitive Believers did do these things by Command . And J. N. in his Love to the Lost , hath said as much : Yea , both J. N. and Stephen Crisp , allow the practise of the Supper at this Day to weak Believers , as is evident from their Books in Print . Pag. 43. They blame me for opposing it as an Error , That the Garden of Paradise was some part of this visible Earth ; and for my saying the Hebrew Word translated to dress , signifies to Work in it , blaming my saying , It cannot be well understood that it needed Dressing after the manner of our common Gardens . Now whereas G. Whitehead hath approved this Book , and boasts that I have fallen into other Hands to deal with me , &c. Let us see how their Hands at present agree : Ye see they blame me for opposing it as an Error , that the Garden of Paradise was some part of this Visible Earth , and will needs have that it needed Dressing , after the manner of our common Gardens . But in plain Contradiction to this , G. Whitehead in his Printed Book , called , A Serious Account , in 35 Reasons , &c. Giveth this as one of his 35 Reasons , why the People called Quakers have left the Men called Priests , pag. 23. Reas . 9. Also the Priests Ignorance and Gross Darkness ( saith he ) hath appeared , who have affirmed , That the forbidden Fruit , which the Serpent tempted Eve to eat of , was an Apple : From which Dream of theirs the picture of a Snake , and an Apple in its Mouth in a Tree , with the Image of a Man a Woman , are set up at the beginning of Bibles , and in many other places ; from which some have imagined that the Serpent which beguiled Eve was a Visible Creature or Beast of the Field , which for that time had power to speak , and to present an Apple to deceive Eve withal ; when as God said to Man and Woman before the Fall , Behold I have given you every Herb , hearing Seed , which is upon the face of all the Earth ; and every Tree , in the which is the fruit of a Tree yielding seed , to you it sha'l be for Meat , Gen. 1. 29. and the fruit of such a Tree that beareth seed , is an Apple ; So that could not be the Forbidden Fruit And the Serpent was that which tempted Man from the Simplicity of the Truth , and through subtilty led him out from the Innocency and Life ( wherein God had placed him ) to feed upon the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge , which was desirable to the Carnal , or Woman's part , that was not content with the pure , innocent and simple Being wherein God at first placed Man over the rest of the Creation . Now if the Trees of the Garden were not visible , and particularly the Tree of the forbidden Fruit , as G. W. saith it was not , then to be sure the Garden by his judgment was not visible , as an Apple , or any other visible Fruit growing on this visible Earth ; and seeing he gives this as a Reason , why he left the Men he calleth Priests : And it is now his own Faith , by the same Reason , all the Quakers should leave him . In the next place , let us hear what G. Fox saith in that famous Book , called his Journal , pag. 17. ad finem . Now ( saith he ) was , I come up in Spirit through the Flaming Sword into the Paradise of God , all things were new , &c. I appeal to all Intelligent Readers , whether G. F. did mean by the Paradise or Garden , here any part of this Visible Earth ? And if any think , he meant it of any part of this visible Earth ; What that part was ? unless they will say , it was that Mountain in Yorkshire , he mentions , where he had his Vision ; but surely that could not be Paradise , for the Barrenness of it . A third Evidence for me and against these Men that have given out this Book , is William Shewen , a great Man among them , lately deceased , who to perswade us of his Infallibility , hath told us , Treatise of Thoughts , pag. 14. That he cannot write contrary to Scripture , being in unity with them . And pag. 19 , 20. plainly tells us , That the Man was not deceived with the Beauty of an Apple ; or some other outward Fruit , nor by the Talk or Perswasion of any Creature , like our English Snakes , as vain Man in his carnal Mind imagins . So we see his Censure of G. Whitehead and J. Pennington , that they are vain , who have so imagined in their Carnal Minds How G. Whitehead will clear himself of this and many other gross Self-contradictions , I leave to the Tryal . Pag. 36. Their Abuse and Perverson is manifest , in seeking to fix a Contradiction on me for affirming in my Book , Help in time of Need , That the Scriptures are not that Word , [ to wit , that living essential Word ] more than a Map or Description of Rome or London , is Rome or London ; or the Image of Caesar is Caesar , or Bread and Wine is the Body and Blood of Christ . And for Querying , Truth Advanced , Que. 5. Whether it may not be said , there is one Baptism , as that there is one Land ca led America , though the Map or Figure of it is also called America , even as there is but one Spiritual Baptism , with the Holy Ghost , though the outward Baptism with Water is also called Baptism . Now beside that this last is only a Query , but let it pass for a Position , let the Intelligent judge what Contradiction is here , or least Inconsistency . Contradictories can never be true , but both these are true . 1. The Scriptures are not that Living and Essential Word which is Christ , this is a Truth that all called Christians acknowledge : But that they may be called the Word , as a Map of America is called America , I never denyed ; but have oft said , and which is agreeable to many Protestant Writers , who have used such a phrase , a Map or Scheme of the Gospel . Nor is the Bread and Wine the Body and Blood of Christ , though it be so called : Now if these Men deny this to be a Truth , they must hold with Papists , that the Bread and Wine is really the Body and Blood of Christ . 2. That though there is but one Spiritual Baptism , yet that the outward Baptism with Water , is also called Baptism , is also true ; for John's Baptism with Water is called in Scripture the Baptism of John. And after they have thus shown their own Folly and Ignorance , in a scoffing Spirit , they call me Rabby , though its the known way of the Quakers not to call a Man Master , that is in Hebrew Rabbi , Matth. 23. 7 , 8. yet to Indulge a Scoffing Humour , they will transgress their Rule . Here this Rabbi ( say they ) hath foiled himself sorely . But let the Intelligent judge , whether they have not foiled themselves sorely all along their abusive and scandalous Book , that [ excepting these Sound Passages and Testimonies , they have collected out of my Books , which greatly make for me , and show that I am constant in my Principles , as to the Faith of Christ ] contains little else , than a heap of Falsities , and Perversions . But that they say , He once boasted ( in his Serious Appeal ) pag. 29. That he hath the Gifts both of Sound Knowledge and Expression , with manifold other Mercies bestowed on him : In this they falsly accuse me . for there is nothing in that place , that either expresses or implyeth any boast in the least . For whereas my Opponent had charged me with marveous Ignorance , Falshood and Giddiness I said [ among other things ] I doubt not but judicious and impartial Readers , who compare his Books and mine , will have another judgment concerning me and acknowledge to God's praise , the Gifts both of Sound Knowledge and Expression , with his manifold other Mercies bestowed on m , for which I desire to Praise him forever . But to make it look like a Boast , they leave out these last Words , and also the foregoing Words ; and its evident I used these Words only Comparatively , and not Absolutely ; for I never judged my self absolutely Infallible , nor have been a Self-Praiser , as too many of them are ; and I may now say , let their Books who have appeared against me of late , as W. Penn G. Whitehead , T. Ellwood , and others be compared with mine , and I doubt not but judicious and impartial Readers will have another judgment concerning me , than these my prejudiced Adversaries , and acknowledge to God's Praise , the Gifts of sound Knowledge and Expression that God hath given me , for which I desire forever to Praise him ; but this I understand only Comparatively , for I never had such thoughts of my self , nor have , but that the Sentiments of my Mind , and Expressions of my Mouth and Pen , in divers things , may admit of Correction , though as to the main , every true Christian as well as I , may say , We have a Sound Knowledge and Faith. And whereas they pass another Scoff upon me , pag. 34. calling my Book , Truth Advanced , His bulky Book ; which is but of small bulk in comparison of the bulky Volumns of G. Whitehead , W Penn , and divers others : I am not doubtful to say , that Intelligent Readers who compare their great bulky Books with that one small bulky Book of mine , will say , there is more Sound matter of Doctrine in it , and the Contents of it are more for Edification , than in their great bulky Books : Yet I have been so modest ( a thing I never found in any of them to acknowledge , that in some things I may receive some Correction , and better information . See my Pref. Truth Adv. pag. 45. Pag 44. They quarrel my expounding Adam and Eve's hiding themselves among the Trees of the Garden , to be in a Tree of the Garden , and that one Tree may be well understood , to be the divine Mercy or Clemency . I had said in my Book , Truth Adv. the Hebrew doth bear it , in a Tree of the Garden , pag. 25. But I must excuse their Ignorance in the Hebrew , that they will not admit of this true Translation : And are they not Carnally Minded , to think that Adam thought he could hide himself either among the Trees of an outward Garden , or in any one Tree of it , so as God might not see him ; this is to think , at least , that Adam was an Anthropomorphit or Mugletonian , as having such a gross Opinion , that God had bodily Eyes as a Man , and that an outward Tree could hide him from God. And their Argument is as foolish , against my saying , That Tree might be the Divine Mercy or Clemency , They say , The Divine Mercy is in Christ Jesus , and if they were got there , when they heard the Voice of the Lord God walking in the Garden , they should not have been afraid , for they were already saefe . But doth not the Scripture say , God's Mercies are over all his Works ? and doth not the Clemency and Mercy of God extend to them that are not yet in Christ ? have they not that understanding , to distinguish betwixt the Mercy of God in general to all Men , and his Mercy in special to Believers ; and seeing they will needs have this Place where Adam hid , some outward Trees on this Earth , by the same Carnal Mind they must understand , that this walking of God , was an outward and Bodily walking , and his Voice an outward and Bodily Voice : and so they make not only Adam , but Moses who writ these Words , to be an Anthropomorphit and Mugletonian , or rather the Father and Founder of the Anthropomorphits and Mugletonians ; for Mugleton himself draweth his Arguments from his Carnal Understanding of these Places , as these Men do . Pag. 44 They also blame me , for saying , Adam and Eve's Nakedness was the fruit of Transgression . And they argue against it , by Quering , What Sign or Token of Impudence is it in People to endeavour to cover their Nakedness . I Answer ; Taking Nakedness Metaphorically , as I do in that place , Gen. 2. as it is taken , Rev. 3. 17 , 18. It is a sign of Impudence to endeavour to cover their Nakedness : Have not some called Quakers gone naked through the Streets , as a sign of the People's Nakedness : And what Nakedness was that ? Is not Sin a Nakedness , metaphorically taken ? and when Men cover their Sins , with false and sinful Excuses , it is a sign of their Impudence , as is too manifest in these men , George Whitehead and John Pennington ▪ And what Nakedness was that of the Serpent , Gen. 3. 1. for as I said in Truth Adv. p. 25. the Hebrew Word is the same in both places , viz. Gen. 2. 25. and 3. 1. Was it bodily Nakedness that he wanted some outward Garment to cover it ? And can we suppose , that God who cloatheth every Lily of the Field , made Adam without a suitable Cloathing ; Did he not Crown him with Glory and Honour ? Psal . 8. 5. And if his Head was not naked how could his Body be naked ? But it is not to be supposed , that Aadm's Cloathing before the Fall was any other than that Beauty and Glory that God had put on him , both with respect to Soul and Body ; but this gross Ignorance of these Men here , touching Adam's state before the Fall , is like that of their Ignorant Brother of the Ministry , Jacob Talner , who asserted in a late Meeting at Turner's - Hall , before some hundreds That Adam before the Fall , had neither Holiness nor Wisdom , nor Righteousness ; and denyed that either Spiritual or Temporal Death was the effect of Adam's Fall ; and used the very same Argument against G. K s Ministry , that the Papists used against the People called Quakers , and all Protestant Ministers , calling for Miracles , or Church-Authority . Another most foolish and ignorant Argument they bring against my saying , God cloathed them inwardly with the Righteousness of the Lamb. They say , Did he cloath them with the Righteousness of the Lamb , and yet at the same time debar them access to the Tree of Life ? See Gen. 3 21 , 22. What strange Doctrine is this . But at the same time is their addition : If by the same time , they mean the same Instant , or Hour : I say nay . But the time was not long betwixt their Fall , and their Restoration , so far as they had access to Christ , signified by the Tree of Life . What they call monstrous Doctrine , of a Body a top of a Body , is none of mine , but their own invention , and foolish arguing . Is a Mass , wherein there is a mixture of Gold and Dross , a Body a top of a Body ? They quarrel with my Translation , for rendring the Word Rib to be Side ; and though I bring several places of Scripture to prove it a true Translation , they bring nothing to disprove it . Surely a Side of Adam bears more proportion for Adam's Wife , than a Rib. Plato a Heathen , had a better understanding of Man's state before the Fall , then these Men have , for all their high pretence to high divine Illumination , and they who in their conceit are first in the ranck of Christians , are last in many respects for their extream Ignorance , beyond most Professors of Christianity , I shall not need to Notice his idle and impertinent Clamour , against what he calleth my Arbitrary and Extrajudicial Proceedings , and new Court of Judicatory , and as contrary to the intent of the Law , having sufficiently answered it in any Preface to the Printed Narrative . But I cannot but observe his great Hypocrisie and Impudence in his saying , He is not conscious to himself of Error , either in reference to the Resurrection , Christ's Satisfaction , or Sacrifice , or his visible coming again , in his glorified Body without us , to raise the Dead at the Great Day of Judgement . Seeing I have proved him Guilty in all these things , as manifestly as the Light at Noon-day in the Printed Narrative , and in that Meeting at Turners-Hall , 11th . 4th . Month , 1696. to which I expect his Answer , before they Print any more . But whereas he accuseth me , That I have dealt very unfairly by him , in leaving out [ Blood and Bones ] after the Words , Body of Flesh . I Answer , There was no unfairness in it , seeing it was no designed Omission , but an oversight either in the Print , or Transscribing ; and the adding Blood and Bones to the Word Flesh , doth not in the least excuse his gross Error . For if Christ did rise with the Substance of his Flesh , so did he with the Substanc of Blood and Bones ; for he could not eat and drink after his Resurrection , without Blood in his Body : and if he hath the Substance of his Flesh now in Heaven , though wonderfully changed in Conditon from Animal to Spiritual , surely he hath also the Substance of his Blood [ so much as remained in his Body ] and also of his Bones . But that he seems , pag. 6. to apply my words , the Husk , or Drossy part , not the true Body , to Christ's Body ; as if I held his Body had any husk or dross in it , is unfair in him , for I hold no such thing , nor ever did . He is very impertinent and weak in his complaining , That I gave them no Copy of that he falsly calls the Particulars of my Indictment , or Charge before Tryal , or of the Books and Pages referred unto therein for a due preparation to answer , alledging , I would not be so served or surprised . I sent them , and particularly I sent him to his House , a printed Copy of the Advertisement , wherein the Four Heads were particularly expressed , that I charged them with , and which I have made good against them . G. W. that prosesseth so great skill in Law , and has more Law than true Gospel in his Books , knoweth that it is not the manner of Indictments , suppose my printed Advertisement had been such as it was not , to put in the Evidence against the Delinquents or Criminals , and were they armed with Truth and Righteousness , they needed not have complained of want of due preparation ( its odd and a new sort of Language for one called a Quaker , to tell us of his not being prepared ) the Scripture saith ( 1 Pet. 3. 15. ) Be ready always to give an Answer to every Man that asketh you a Reason of the Hope that is in you . When I was most falsly and uncharitably accused by John Voughton , John Field , and Thomas Ellwood , at the Yearly Meeting , 1694. I sought no Particulars of Quotations , and Pages referred unto , nor did any intimate to me before-hand the particular Passages in my Books that they justly excepted against , I intirely relyed on the Assistance of God to help me , what to answer to the many false Accusations and Perversions , that my Accusers used against me . and I found him a present help to me . I had offered in Print before to Tho. Elwood , that he would appoint Time and Place , and I would stand to his Appointment : And I make the same Offer to you again , I freely allow you to serve me , as I have served you ; Give out your Advertisement in Print , appoint your Time and Place , and let me have your Charge without your Proofs until we meet , and then bring them forth against me ; I premise ( God permitting ) to meet you , provided the Meeting be free and open to all Sober Persons . A POSTSCRIPT , Containing an Earnest Expostulation with the most Pious and Learned , whether in the Church of England , or among other Protestant Dissenters ; and a serious Invitation unto them , to employ some of their Time and Labour , by their Pious and Learned Writings , to oppose and refute those vile Errors boldly avowed , and publickly broached , in the late Printed Books of some Leading Men among a Gang and sort of Quakers . IT may seem strange , how it comes to pass , that while so many Pious and Learned Men are judged to be found in this Nation , not only of the Church of England , but among the Dissenters and Nonconformists , there are found so few among them all , that do imploy their Gifts to oppose such Vile Errors as are boldly and avowedly promoted among a sort and Gang of the People called Quakers , not only as bad as any Popery , but much worse than the worst of Popery , in divers respects ; and I am confident if such Antichristian Errors and Heresies were but the tenth part so avowedly broached in the City of Rome , or any where else , in Popish Countries , these esteemed Watchmen among them , would be more alarmed to oppose them by Word and Writing , than most among Protestants do , which would seem to cast a great Reflexion on the Protestant Churches , if some able Men , and of good esteem among them , both for Piety and Sound Knowledge , be not awakened to bestow some of their time and labour by their Writings to oppose such Vile Errors ; and such a Work would be so far from unbecoming the ablest and most valuable Persons in this Nation , for Piety and Learning , that it would turn much to their Honour and real Advantage , to bestir themselves in this Work. It frequently happeneth , that Books are more valued , and the Contents of them the more regarded and considered , and the more universally read and recommended , that Persons of publick Note and Fame , when Pious and Learned are the Authors of them . And whereas many of the chiefest Teachers and Leaders among the People called Quakers , have formerly with great boldness , provoked such as have differed from them to publick Disputes , viva voce , and have oft gloried over them , who refused to answer them , that their Cause was bad , and that they had not Truth on their side ; and in these days there was no such Cry to be heard from them , as now , That such publick Disputes will offend Authority , and break the Civil Peace ; yea , how oft have some of their Teachers assaulted the National Ministers in the Face of their Congregations , and provoked them to dispute with them ; and on their refusal , have cryed out against them to be Fugitives and Hirelings when the said National Ministers way of Religion and Worship was approved by Authority , and that of the People called Quakers was not : Would it not therefore be a most equal , reasonable , and commendable Practise for any Persons of true Piety and solid Learning , moved with the Zeal of God's Glory , and love of Truth , and with a Holy Indignation against these Vile Errors that are publickly avouched by some Leading Men among the Quakers , as appeareth both by their former and later Printed Books , and with a tender Compassion to the Souls of so many Thousands in this Nation , that are in danger to perish by the Infection of these Errors , openly and publickly to call them forth to a publick Hearing , and to press them by earnest Perswasions , to retract and condemn those vile and damnable Errors contained in their Books , or if they continue to justifie them , to refute them openly in the Face of their own Meetings , and in the presence of them that do so much admire and follow them . And thus to serve them , at they have served others ; and with what Measure they have met to others , with the sone to mete to them again . And it would be a Commendable and Praise-worthy thing , for the Civil Authority , to encourage such a Practise throughout the Nation , that Men of true Piety and solid Learning might be allowed and Countenanced to Refute these Vile and Abominable Errors of these chief Teachers and Leaders anong them called Quakers , in their Meeting-Houses , at the end of their Meetings , or at other fit times : Surely such a Practise as this , as it is no ways inconsistent with the Civil Peace , and Liberty of Conscience granted to Dissenting Protestants , ( notwithstanding of the idle Clamour of such Men , who have an Evil Conscience and a lad Cause ) would be more effectual to Preserve the True Protestant Christian Religion in these three Nations , than all the severe ways in former times used against then , of Fines , Imprisonments , &c. And though it is far from me to desire the least Suffrings to come on these Mens Persons or Estates , yet if such a zeal were raised in them bearing Authority in this Nation , to give order that all such Books of them called Quakers , as can readily be found , ( as great store of such there are ) that contan such Vile and Abominable Errors , to the dishonour of the worthy Name of Christ and the Christian Religion , and the great danger of many Souls , be diligently searched and examined by the most Pious and Judicious Persons in the Nation , and after due search and Examination , be found guilty ; that by publick Authority all such Books may be suppressed and witnessed against . I may freely say , these Men should have no just Cause to Complain , that their Books should be so dealt with , for they have done the like to Books that have opposed their gross Errors , witness a Parcel of Books writ ( by me ) some Four Years ago , that came to London from Pensilvania , opposing the gross Errors of some called Quakers in that Province , which were designed to have been Sold in single Books , and dispersed through City and Country for a general Service : But the Quakers here at London gave large Money to the Man that had them , that they might get them all into their Hands , on purpose to suppress them ; as accordingly they did , and hinder the Service of them ; and these very Books generally lie in these Mens Custody suppressed unto this very Day , and some of them have burned , others have torn , and trod under Feet in open view , Books that have opposed their vile Errors . Advertisement . WHereas there is lately Printed a Scandalous Libel against me , with this Title , Master George Keith at Turners-Hall in Philpot - Lane , London , in 1696. contradicting , &c. Signed only with two Letters , W. C. wherein he laboureth in vain to prove my Inconsistency and Contradiction , betwixt my Book of Immediate Revelation , and the late Exact Narrative ; the Author of which Scandalous Libel , seemeth to profess himself to be a Member of the Church of England , but his Speech bewrayeth him to be a Counterfeit , and rather one of that Gang and sort of Anti-Christ - Quakers , above-mentioned , seeing he doth so eagerly patronize them , against the known Doctrine of the Church of England , as well as of all true Christians . I give this publick Intimation , that I desire this W. C. to appear and meet me at any convenient time , at our Meeting-place at Turners-Hall , which time I allow him to appoint , and give Notice of before-hand ; and I doubt not but by God's Assistance , to prove him guilty of divers Forgeries , and palpable Falsities , Perversions , and Wrestings of my Sound Woros , contained in his said Scandalous Libel , together with his base Reflexions and False Surmises against me . And if he refuse this my fair Proposal it will be manifest he is a Cowardly Spirit , and smiter in the dark , and as well Unmanly as Unchristian , thus in a Clandestine way by palpable Falsities and Perversions , to seek to deceive his unwary Readers , and to divert me from a Business of greater Concern by his trifling . And I judge no Impartial Observer of the state of this Controversie betwixt my open and professed Adversaries , G. W. and W. P. and others of their party and me , will think me obliged to Print Answers to such Clandestine Enemies , and Smiters in the dark , or to regard their Nameless Libels , which might prove as much an Unprofitable as an Endless Work. I also desire the Friendly Reader to take notice , that the Corrections and Explanations of some Passages contained in my former Books ( which I have freely declared , did need Correction in some things , and Explanation in others ) are in great part already given in this Treatise ; and indeed the greatest Mistakes that I find I have been under , were my mis-understanding these places of Scripture , Matth. 28. 19. and 1 Cor. 11. 26. and others the like places relating to these outward Practices of Baptism and the Supper , which in the foregoing Treatise I have freely acknowledged ; and this may suffice at present to silence the Clamour of such that cry out , I should first acknowledge my own Errors , before I charge others with their Errors : For as I had done it in general in the first place , so since I have done it in particular in great part , and may yet more fully do it , as God shall be pleased to give me an Opportunity . But I bless God I have no such Errors to retract or correct , as my Adversaries have ; for put all my Mistakes and Errors together in one Bundle , and they will not weigh the one thousand part of the weight that one of these four Errors do weigh , that I have proved my Adversaries guilty of , both in the Exact Narrative , and in this fore-going Treatise , and in other late Treatises . And were but my Adversaries so sincere and ingenuous to acknowledge either in general , or in any particulars wherein they have been mistaken , and need to correct their Sentiments , it would give great Satisfaction to many , as well as to me . But this they will hardly do , nay , it is impossible they can do it , so long as they seek to keep up in their credulous Followers , their esteem of their Infallibility ; and beside , to own that they are changed from their former Sentiments , would be either to acknowledge themselves as great Apostates , as they now charge me to be for some small change in me , touching lesser Matters , or rather to clear me of that foul Charge of Apostacy they have so invidiously cast upon me . And it is great dis-ingenuity in them , and Hypocrisie , to blame me for saying , I did not know they held such Principles , till of late times ; for it is certain , that as these their Erronious Principles were unknown to me , which I call Anti-Christian and Sadducean ; so what they call my Presbyterian and Priestly Principles , were unknown to them ; or if they did know them , they were great Hypocrites if they judged them false , not to discover them before now . For whereas now they commonly say I hold Priests and Professors Principles ; I know no such Priests and Professors Principles that I now hold , but I am able to prove , I have held them ever since I came among the People called Quakers , as touching all the Articles of Faith , commonly called the simpliciter credenda ; and wherein I am changed in my Judgment , as to the Sense of these places of Scripture , relating to Baptism and the Supper , I can prove my agreement with some of chiefest Note among the People called Quakers , therefore for that I am no Apostate . Some of the Chiefest of these False Contradictions , the foresaid Libeller hath unjustly charged upon me , that prove him extreamly Ignorant or wickedly Impudent . Pag. 5. That an Unbelieving Iew is no Christian . That a Believing Iew in Moses time was a Christian . That which makes one a true Christian , is the Spirit of Christ , the anointing in him . Faith in Christ without us , wrought by the Spirit of Christ in us , is universally necessary to make Men true Christians . Pag. 6. The History , or Historical and express Knowledge and Faith of Christ crucified , is not universally necessary to make Men true Christians . Some Knowledge and Faith of Christ crucified ( though not the Express and Historical , yet Implicit ) is universally necessary to make Men true Christians . The Manifestation of God in the Flesh of Christ , and his Incarnation , is a greater Mystery than mens Regeneration . Christ's inward Ministry and Teaching by the Spirit in our Hearts , is more than his outward Ministring and Speaking was to them who outwardly heard him and saw him . Pag. 7. Christ crucified in whom the Fulness , dwelleth , is a greater Mystery than Christ in the Gentiles . Jesus Christ revealed in Man is the Foundation of the true Church . Note , I did not say Christ only within , &c. Pag. 8. Christ without us , as he is both God and Man , the Emmanuel , as well as his inward Appearance in us , is the Object of Saving Faith. The Internal Revelation of Christ is the formal Object of Faith Note His Ignorance , in not understanding the distinction betwixt the material Object of Faith , and the formal Object , also betwixt the objectum formale quod , and objectum formale quo , maketh him think the two above-mentioned Passages to be Contradictions ; but for his Instruction , I send him to R. B. his Apology on that Head , and his and my Answer to the Students of Aberdene . Pag. 11. The wisdom described , Prov 8. is Christ the very fulness of God. Note , His abominable Forgeries and Falsities , in saying , I give all these Names he mentions p 11 to the Light within , which is a notorious Falshood , as the Reader will see , that will be at the pains to view the several pages he refers to ; for though some of these Names I give to the Light within , yet not all of them , but some I give to Christ , as he is both God and Man ; and I divers times in that same Book , and near to these places that he cites , call the Light within a Measure of that Fulness of Life and Spirit , whose Fulness is in the Man Christ without us . The Light in us is the Voice of Wisdom , the Path of Wisdom , a Measure of that Fullness . See my Book , Immediate Revel . pag. 117. 243 , 245. Mary was the Mother of Christ , according to the Flesh , and in that respect Christ is the Seed of the Woman in the literal sense of Gen. 3. 15. And as in all his Instances , he grosly prevaricates , so he is guilty of most gross Forgery in saying , That I Allegorize his Birth [ in the Flesh ] and his Miracles , Crcucifixion and Resurrection . But his Ignorance proceeds from his not understanding to distinguish betwixt an Allegorical Allusion warranted by Scripture , and turning the true Literal Sense of places of Scripture into an Allegory , so as to destroy , or make void the Literal Sense , which I have proved G. W. guilty of : But this Libeller has proved no such thing on me ; and he is most shamefully deceitful , in saying , the Word away , we must justly drop on both sides , I having accused G. W. that he hath Allegorised away Christ's Births , Burial , Resurrectionn , and proved him guilty of so doing in my Narrative , by Allegorising away the Literal Sense of these places of Scripture , Isaiah 9. 6 , 53. 9. and 1 Cor. 15. 8. Believers are the Mother of Christ in an Allegorical Sense , not grounded on Gen 3. 15. but on Matth. 49. 50. and Rev. 1● . 5. And in this Allegorical Sense , Christ is formed in the Saints , Gal. 4. 19. and by his Power in them , he ( the Seed of the Woman ) bruiseth the Serpent's Head. London , the 24th . of the Month called July , 1696. G. K. ERRATA . Pag. 9. line 29. for servants read parents . p. 11. l. 17. after is , r. a part in . p. 22. l. 50. r. ad finem . p. 26. l. 11. after books , r but think that I did so distinguish . p. 29. l. 40. r. deisme . p. 34. last line , for general r several . p. 35. l 47. r. Man and Woman . Notes, typically marginal, from the original text Notes for div A47121-e360 Of Christ Crucified . Citing Way cast up . p. 113. false quot . true quot . p. 131. * That was Peter Bosse . Note , These few Lines are but a small part of many more English Verses made by the said John Homes , that he spread abroad , having this Title , The Fighting Quakers Expedition in Pensilv .