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A41425) Transcribed from: (Early English Books Online ; image set 34850) Images scanned from microfilm: (Early English books, 1641-1700 ; 2091:8) A plain testimony to the antient truth and work of God and against the corruption of the clergy, and their upholders. By T. G. Goodaire, Thomas, d. 1693. 31, [1] p. Printed, and sold by T. Sowle, at the Crooked-Billet in Holywell-Lane, in Shoreditch, [London] : 1691. Signed at end: Thomas Goodaire. Place of publication provided by cataloger. Title page in red and black. Copy has extensive print fade. Reproduction of the original in the Bevan-Naish Collection, Woodbrooke College Library, Birmingham, England. Created by converting TCP files to TEI P5 using tcp2tei.xsl, TEI @ Oxford. Re-processed by University of Nebraska-Lincoln and Northwestern, with changes to facilitate morpho-syntactic tagging. Gap elements of known extent have been transformed into placeholder characters or elements to simplify the filling in of gaps by user contributors. 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Quakers -- Apologetic works -- Early works to 1800. 2007-08 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2007-08 Aptara Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2008-01 John Pas Sampled and proofread 2008-01 John Pas Text and markup reviewed and edited 2008-02 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion A Plain TESTIMONY TO THE Antient Truth AND Work of God ; AND Against the CORRUPTION of the CLERGY , And their Upholders . By T. G. Jer. 5. 30 , 31. A Wonderful and Horrible Thing is committed in the Land ; The Prophets prophesie falsly , and the Priests bear Rule by their Means , and my People love to have it so ; And what will ye do in the End thereof ? Printed , and Sold by T. Sowle , at the Crooked-Billet in Holywell-Lane , in Shoreditch , 1691. A Plain Testimony to the Antient Truth and Work of God ; and against the Corruption of the Clergy , &c. FRiends and People every where , in all Places where this may come , this is to let you know , there is something in my Heart and Mind for to publish , and to make manifest unto all People that profess Christianity , and Salvation by Christ , what the Clergy-Men of the World hold forth , both the Popish Clergy and the Protestant Clergy , both in Doctrine , Principles and Practices ; and also their manner of Doings and Practices , as touching the Worship and Service of God ; and also their Persecutions and Cruelties which they and their Hearers , and Members of their Churches have acted and done against the People of God , who are in scorn called Quakers , and will undertake by the help and assistance of the Lord , to prove these things to be true , which is , or may be herein , and hereafter expressed and declared against them , which are as followeth . First , I do affirm , that neither the Popish Clergy , nor the Protestant Clergy , nor their Hearers that are Members of their Churches , neither can , nor never shall know Jesus Christ experimentally to be their Saviour and Redeemer from their Sins and Iniquities , as the true Ministers and People of God did know him formerly , and as the true Ministers and People of God know him now in this our Age and Generation , to their and our Souls true peace , joy , comfort and satisfaction in God ; neither can they ever know the Mystery of Godliness by experience revealed in them , nor they cannot have a true belief in Christ , as the Ministers and People of God had , and have now , so long as they live and act in Sin , and take pleasure and delight therein , and plead for a continuance in Sin so long as they live upon the Earth . And it is the Doctrine and Belief of the Clergy-Men , before mentioned , and the People that are their Hearers , and Members of their Churches , That none can be set free from Sin , nor be made perfect from it in this Life ; and so they preach against Perfection from Sin , which God and Christ commanded that People should be perfect and holy ; and are God and Christ such hard Masters as to command that of People for them to do , which cannot be done nor attained unto in this Life ? But the Ministers of Christ never preached any such Doctrine , but on the contrary , they preached Perfection from Sin , and exhorted the People to press after Perfection ; and the Lord gave Gifts unto men , and he made some Apostles , and some Evangelists , and some P●●ph●●● , and some Pastors and Teachers , for the perfecting of the Saints , and for the Work of the Ministry , and for the Edifying of the Body of Christ , until they all came into the unity of the Faith , and of the Knowledge of the Son of God unto a Perfect Man , unto the measure of the Stature ●f the fulness of Christ . And many of the People of God did attain to Perfection from Sin in this Life , and they did know an Overcoming of their Sins and Iniquities in this Life , by the help and assistance of the Power and Spirit of Christ working in them : And no Man nor Woman can be perfect from Sin of themselves , nor by any Works of Righteousness which they can do of themselves , nor by their own Wills , but by the help and assistance of the Power and Spirit of Christ working in them ; and so all things are possible with God , which may seem impossible to men ; and the Lord is the same that he was then , and he is as able , and sufficient , & willing to do the like for us , & to work the same Works in our Hearts by his holy Spirit , as he did in the Hearts of his People formerly , if we do but truly believe in him , and be willing for to obey and follow him , by taking up a daily Cross to our own Wills , and Thoughts , and Desires , and Inclinations of nature , and so thereby we must deny our selves from doing any thing that will please our selves , if it do offend the Lord , and displease him , we must not do it for the gaining of the love and friendship of any people , nor for the gaining of any outward Thing , or Treasure that is in the World : And we are required and commanded by the Lord for to put our whole trust and confidence in him , who hath promised , that he will never leave nor forsake them that puts their whole trust & confidence in him . And these things the Lord commanded and required ●is people for to do formerly , which they did in Love and in Obedience to him , and the Lord was with them , and in them , by his holy Spirit , and he did help and 〈…〉 Spirit for to do and perform those things 〈…〉 required of them for to do ; and this he 〈…〉 d truly believe and follow him , and for all them 〈…〉 fear and love him with all their Hearts , above all 〈…〉 gs . And now the Lord commands and requires us for to do the 〈◊〉 things ; and if we be willing and obedient to him , and fear and love him with all our Hearts , above all visible things , I do verily believe , and I am confident in the Lord , that he will help and assist us by his holy Spirit for to do and perform all things which he commands and requires of us for to do and perform , now in this our Age and Generation ; but all them that do not truly believe in Christ , nor is not willing for to obey and follow him , nor to deny themselves as aforesaid , and counts God a hard Master , by commanding and requiring more of them then they are able to do , or can be attained unto in this Life , as they say ; it is manifest unto the Lord and his People , that all such are slothful Servants , and hide their Talents in their earthly Hearts , and are disobedient to him , such neither fear nor love the Lord as they ought to do , nor as ●e commands them for to do ; and no such slothful , idle , careless people can believe that Perfection from Sin is to be attained unto in this Life , neither are they willing to press after such a good State and Condition ; and so he who they love and serve , which is the Enemy of their Souls in them , prevails against them , and teacheth them for to preach and speak against Perfection from Sin in this Life ; read the Scriptures following , Gen. 6. 9. 17. 1. Job 1. 1. Luke 1. 5 , 6. Mark 6. 20. Mat. 1. 19. Acts 10. 22. 2 Pet. 1. 21. 2 King. 20. 1 , 2 , 3. Mat. 5. 48. Ephes . 4. 11 , 12 , 13. Heb. 6. 1. Heb. 13. 20 , 2● . Rev. 14. 2 , 3 , 4 , 5. 1 John 2. 14. Chap 3. 4. to vers . 11. And further I do affirm , that all that preach and speak against Perfection from Sin , and say , That there is no Perfection from Sin can be attained unto in this Life ; all such Persons and People do encourage People for to live in Sin , and they do discourage people from pressing after perfection , and they are a means to beget people into Unbelief , that they may not believe that such a good state and condition is to be attained unto in this Life ; and all such deny the sufficiency of Christ , and the end of his coming in Spirit , into the Hearts and Souls of all true Christians , and true Believers in him ; which end was , and is , for to mortifie , and to kill , and crucifie Sin , and to destroy the Works of the Devil , which is Sin and Iniquity in people ; and every evil Plant which the Lord hath not planted , which hath taken deep Root in people's hearts , the Lord will pluck up by the working of his own Power and Spirit in the hearts of all true Christians , and true Believers and Followers of Christ , who truly love and obey him ; and this great Work of Christ must be known and witnessed for to be done and wrought by him in every true Christian , before Christ can be known experimentally for to reign and rule in the hearts and souls of people : And these things are a mystery unto all that live in Sin , and take pleasure and delight therein , and unto all the proud and covetous Clergy that are in the whole World , that preach for Tythes or Money , and are hired by people to preach for so much Money by the Year , which the true Apostle Paul said , That the love of Money was the Root of all Evil ; And the true Ministers of Christ hated all such covetous Practices , and declared against them ; and Paul said , I have coveted no man's Silver , or Gold , or Apparel ; ye your selves know , said he , that these Hands have ministred unto my Necessities , and to them that were with me : Who was a Tent-maker , he was not brought up at any Schools of Learning for to be made a Minister of Christ ; nor none of the Ministers of Christ were brought up at any Schools of Learning , to be made Ministers of Christ , but several of them were ignorant and unlearned men , as to outward Learning and Scholarship , which people do so much boast of ; but they were brought up at Christ's School , and they were taught of him by his holy Spirit , and they were endued with Power from on High ; and they were led and guided by Christ's Spirit into all Truth , and out of all the wicked & ungodly Ways and Practices , which many of the Clergy-Men , and of their Hearers before mentioned , live and walk in now . And the Apostle Paul said , That the Gospel which he preached , be neither received of Man , neither was he taught it of Man , but by the Revelation of Jesus Christ , and he preached not unto any people with inticing Words of man's Wisdom , nor of man's Learning ; but he preached and spoke unto the people in the Demonstration of the Spirit , & with Power , that their Faith should not stand in the Wisdom of Men , but in the Power of God ; and Christ made them able Ministers of the New Testament , not of the Letter , but of the Spirit ; for the Letter killeth , but the Spirit giveth Life unto the Soul : And so the Ministers of Christ never preached such a Doctrine , as these covetous Clergy-Men do now : Read these Scriptures , Galatians . 1. 11 , 12. Acts 2● 33 , 34. 2 Cor. 3. 6. 1 Cor. 2. 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5. 1 Tim. 6. 6 , 7 , 8 , 9 , 10 , 11. And you that preach and speak against Perfecti●n 〈…〉 Sin , and say , none can be set free from Sin in this Life , can you not believe that Christ Jesus is as able , and sufficient , and willing to save people from their Sins , and to bring them to a perfect state from Sin , according as God created Man and Woman in the beginning , as the Devil who is the author of all Sin and Evil , who makes his Children and Servants perfect in Sin and Wickedness , who continue to the end of their days , to obey and follow him , and are led and guided by his spirit into Sin and Evil , and his evil Fruits are brought forth , and acted and done daily by his Children and Servants , to the great dishonour of God , who made Man and Woman for to love , fear , serve and honour , and obey him , in Truth and Righteousness , and to live and walk before the Lord , in a holy , godly , righteous Life , in all manner of Holiness and Righteousness , in our holy Lives and godly Conversations , so long as the Lord is pleased that we shall live upon the Earth , that so God Almighty may be honoured and glorified in us , and by us , that so we may answer the end for which he hath made and created us , which is to fear and love him with all our Hearts , which if we do so in Truth , then we shall be made willing by the Lord for to obey him , and keep his commands , which is the duty of every one so to do . And now , all you that do not believe that Perfection from Sin can be attained unto , and that not any can be set free from Sin in this Life , doth not your Faith and Belief stand in him who is the author of all Sin and Evil , which is the wicked Spirit ? And your faith and belief stands not in Christ , who is the Author of Perfection from Sin , who is the good Spirit , and saves his People from their Sins , but not in their Sins ; and Christ said , Whosoever committeth Sin , is the Servant of Sin. And the Apostle Paul said , Know ye not to whom ye yield your selves Servants to obey , his Servants ye are to whom ye do obey , whether of Sin that leads to Death and Destruction , or of Obedience unto Righteousness , which leads to Life and Peace with the Lord. And so long as People live in Sin , and are Servants to it , they are free from Righteousness ; and the Apostle John said , He that commiteth Sin is of the Devil : and he said , He that is born of God sinneth not . Read these Scriptures , John 8. 34. Rom. 6. 16 , 17. to the end , 1 John 3. 4. to vers . 11. And all that believe that they cannot be set free from Sin so long as they live in this World , they know nothing of the New Birth experimentally , no more than Nicodemus did , which was a Ruler of the Jews ; nor no such persons nor people that plead for living in Sin term of Life , they know nothing by expe●●ence what it is for to be Regenerated , and Born again of Water and the Spirit , without which inward spiritual knowledge they cannot enter into the Kingdom of God ; and they that are born of God by the Water and Spirit of Life , they are not Servants to Sin , neither will any such plead for Sin , nor for a continuance in it as long as they live ; but all such Persons and People that are born of God , as aforesaid , they hate Sin , and every appearance of it , in Thoughts , Words and Actions , both in themselves and in all other people , where they see Sin committed , acted or done ; and those that are born of God by his Spirit , they are in Christ , and he is in them spiritually , and they are made new Creatures by the working of Christ's spirit in their hearts and souls ; and all old things that are evil , which is Sin and Iniquity , comes to be taken away and destroyed , and all things are made new by the workings of the Power and Spirit of Christ in the hearts of all the Children of Light , who are true Believers and Followers of Christ through the Spiritual Warfare , and through great Tribulations , and Tryals , and Exercises , which the People of the Lord come to know , and to pass through , before they attain to Perfection from all their Sins ; and it is said , That many are the Troubles of the Righteous , and through many Tribulations must they enter into the Kingdom of Heaven ; but the Lord is all-sufficient for to help his People out of all their Troubles and Tryals , both inward and outward , those that puts their whole trust and confidence in him : And he hath done great things for many of his people now in our Age and Generation , which have been under great Troubles , Sufferings and Tryals , both inward and outward , for which we have just cause , and we are bound in duty to bless and praise the Name of the Lord , and to return unto him all Honour , Glory , Praise , Thanks , Fear , Reverence and true Obedience ; for unto the Lord alone it doth belong , both from me , and from all that knows him , who have tasted of his Love and Mercies , blessed and praised be his great and glorious , and heavenly Name , both now , henceforth for ever , and for evermore . Read these Scriptures , John 3. 1. to vers . 11. 2 Cor. 5. 17. Acts 14. 22. 2 Cor. 1. 3. 44. Chap. 10. 3. 4. 1. 45. And so the true Way that leads to the Kingdom of Heaven , is a strait and narrow way , for it is a way of Holiness , Righteousness and Purity , and a way wherein all people must deny themselves of doing any evil thing that will offend the Lord , or displease him , and therefore there are but a few that find it , and walk in it : and Christ's Flock is but a little Flock , in comparison of the multitude of people that are in the World , but the way that leads to Hell and Destruction , and so into everlasting Torment and Misery which shall never come to an end ; this is a broad and wide way , and it is easie , and delightful , and pleasant , to all fleshly carnal minded people for to walk in : And all those people that live and act in Sin and Evil , and take pleasure and delight therein , and deny Perfection from Sin in this Life , all such persons and people are going on in the broad and wide way , that will lead them into everlasting Wo and Misery , unless they repent . And therefore it is my Advice and Counsel unto all people that now live and delight in Sin and Evil , as you tender the glory of God , and the good and well-being of your Immortal Souls , come out of all your ungodly ways and doings , and Repent and forsake the Evil of your ways and doings , and desire the Lord to pardon you for all your Sins and Transgressions , which yon have acted and done against him ; and turn unto the Lord , and fear and love him with all your hearts , and hate Sin and Evil , and every appearance of it , both in your selves , and in all others , that thereby you may come to know a Change , and a Reformation to be wrought in your hearts by the Power and Spirit of Christ in you , and this is the only way and means for you to find Forgiveness , and Mercy , and Acceptance with the Lord for your poor Souls ; which if you so do , and find , it will be of more worth and value to you that find it , then all the outward injoyments of Honour , or Riches , or Pleasures that are in the World. And now I shall mention , and lay before you some of the Cruelties and bloody Persecutions of these Clergy-men , before mentioned , and some of their Hearers , and Members of their Churches , which have joyned with them in their Cruelties , and bloody Persecutions , and shall begin with the Popish Clergy , and some of the Members of their Church ; first , It is well known to many People what their Doctrine , and Principles , and Practices are , and what it leads and guides them for to do and act , in those Places and Countries where they have the Rule and Power in outward things ; as for instance , They do believet at all people which are not of their Faith and Religion are Sectaries and Hereticks , though they be called Christians , as I can make appear by their own Books , which they have set forth ; and then this hath followed by their practices , that the more Hereticks they kill and destroy , many of them think they do God more service , and count it a Meritorious Work , although the people which they have killed and murthered were no Hereticks , but good Christians , many of them , and were faithful to God in what he manifested and made known unto them in their Age and Time ; As for instance , How many of these good people aforesaid , have these Popish bloody Clergy-Men , and the Members of their Church , caused for to be but and destroyed in Queen Mary's Reign , because they could not for good Conscience-sake submit and conform to their Idolatrous Ways and Worships , which were never ordained by the Lord , nor never such a Doctrine nor Practice was ever preached , nor practised by any of the Ministers of Christ . And so this Doctrine and Practice , which was and is preached and practised by the Popish Clergy , and the Members of their Church , was ordained and set up by the Devil and his Ministers , and not by Christ nor his Ministers , as appears plainly by their Wicked Actions and Practices , aforesaid . And I shall mention more of their Cruelties and Murders , as for instance , How many Thousands of Protestants did they kill and murder in Ireland , even at such a time when the Protestants were peaceable and quiet , and did not lift up a hand against them ; and the Devil in those Murderers did invent such Cruel Tortures and Punishments to put them to Death , as scarce hath been heard of amongst the Heathens , which are no Christians ; and yet notwithstanding they have the boldness and confidence , for to call themselves Christians , and say , Christ is their Saviour : but Christ hates and abhors all such Murders and Cruelties , as are found acted and done amongst them : And Christ came not to destroy men's Lives , but to save them . And here people may see that these aforesaid , are not acted nor guided by the Spirit of Christ , but by the spirit of the Devil , who was a Lyar and a Murderer from the beginning . And now I shall mention and lay before you some of the Cruelties and great Persecutions of the Presbyterian Clergy , and some of their Hearers and Members of their Church , both in Old England , and in New-England , which they have acted and done against the People of God , who are in scorn called by the World Quakers ; first , they have cast many of us into Prisons , and there they have kept several until they dyed , and by their means and doings they have taken away the Goods and Chattels of many of our Friends , both Rich and Poor , to the value of many Thousands of Pounds ; and this they did in Oliver Cromwell's time , and they proceeded against us for not paying of them Tythes , and Money for Preaching , by a Law which gave them trebble Damage ; and they caused evil men for to come into our Houses and Grounds for to distrain our Goods and Chattels , which they did several times , and sold our Goods and Chattels , and gave the Money to those Tything Hireling-Priests ; and they sold our Goods & Chattels at an undervalue ; and they took many times Goods and Chattels from us , which were worth above five times more than they call'd their due ; & thus they have done to many of us . And they have cast several into Prisons for less than eighteen Pence a piece , at their own valuation , which they said was their due ; and thus they have ruinated several of our Friends , and their Families aforesaid , in their Estates , besides the Cruelties which they have Inflicted upon our Bodies , in casting many of us into Prisons , and there they kept many until they dyed ; and thus Cruelly , with much more Cruelties , which are here too tedious to mention , have they acted and done against us , because we could not for good Conscience sake uphold them in their ungodly Ways and Practices , as to pay them Tythes , and Money for their Preaching , as Ministers of Christ , as they and the people that hear them , call and account them to be : but Christ came to put an end to that Law , and Priest-hood , and Covenant , by which Tythes were paid in the time of the Law and first Covenant , and hath abolished it ; read Heb. 7. 8 , 9 , 10. And where do ye find , or read in all the Scriptures of Truth , that any of the true Ministers of Christ took Tythes , or Money for their preaching ? Or did ever any of the true Believers and Followers of Christ pay Tythes ? And whosoever they be that either take Tythes , or pay Tythes , denys Christ to be come , and the end of his coming , so as to yield obedience unto him , by doing that which he requires of them . And now I have something more to mention of the Wickedness , and Cruelties , and Murders of the Presbyterian Clergy , and the Professors and Members of their Church in New-England , against the people of God , called in scorn Quakers ; first , they cast many in Prison , and they Whipped many in a cruel manner , both Men and Women , 〈◊〉 their naked Bodies ; and they took away the Goods and 〈◊〉 of many of the people aforesaid , and they Branded and Burnt them with Hot ●●ons , and they Cut off the Ears of some , and B●nished them ; And all these Cruelties , with much more , which are not here mentioned , which they acted and did against the people aforesaid , would not sati●fie their blood-thirsty Spirit . And now I desire all true Christians , who are true Believers and Lovers of Christ , to consider and take notice of all these Cruelties and Murders aforesaid , and see if these Clergy-Men and People aforesaid , be not acted and guided by the same Spirit now that the High-Priests , and Chief Priests , and Scribes and Pharisees were , when Christ was upon the Earth ; and they had a form of Godliness , and professed Scriptures , and they made long Prayers , and made clean the outside , and appeared righteous in the sight of men , but their hearts were deceitful , and full of Hypocrisie and Iniquity , as many of the Priests and Professors of Religion are found to be now , by their evil Lives and Conversations in this world : And was there any greater Enemies to Christ Jesus , when he was upon the Earth , then those High-Priests and Chief Priests , and Scribes and Pharisees were then ? And they sought every way they could for to destroy Christ and his Ministers , and sought false Witness against them for to have them put to Death : and Christ and some of his Ministers were put to death by means of such wicked ungodly Priests and Professors of Religion as aforesaid , which had a form of Godliness , but they were absolute Enemies to thse that lived in the Life and Power of Godliness ; as these Priests , and Professors , and People are now ; & many of these now are absolute Enemies to the Children of Light , and all that do truly believe and own the Spiritual Appearance of Christ in their hearts , as to obey and follow it , who was and is the true Light and Life of all true Christians , and true Believers in him in all Ages & Generations that are past & gone ; and all such Christians and true Believers in him , who do obey & follow the Light & Spirit of Christ in their hearts , they do , and will receive power daily for to forsake their Sins and Iniquities ; and the same Light and Spirit will beget a perfect hatred in their Hearts against all Sin , and every appearance of it , both in themselves , and in all others , where they see Sin acted or done : And whosoever doth truly love and 〈…〉 Light and Spirit of Christ in themselves , which shews them Sin , and reproves them for it in secret , when they either think , speak or act any thing that is Evil , it will teach and help them to forsake Sin , and every appearance of Sin , according as the Lord doth manifest Sin unto them : And whosoever doth truly believe in this Light and good Spirit of Christ , which shews people their Sins , and reproves them in their own Hearts and Consciences , when they do sin against God , if they do truly love , and obey , and follow this Light and good Spirit in them , it is sufficient in its self , without the help of vain sinful men , which preach against Perfection from Sin in this Life ; I say again , it is sufficient , and there is help and power enough in it , for to lead and guide all people out of their Sins , and to give them power to forsake all their Sins and Iniquities by degrees , all that are willing to deny themselves of all their sinful Ways and Pleasures , and so become obedient to this Light and Spirit of Christ in them ; and this Light and Spirit the Lord hath given a measure of it freely to every one for to profit withal ; and it is sufficient for to teach all People that truly believe in it , and obey it , and is willing to be taught by it , it will teach them to deny all ungodly Thoughts , Words and Actions ; and it will teach them to live soberly , justly , godly , and righteously in this present world ; and it will teach them for to do unto all People , as they would be done unto themselves ; and it will teach them for to deal , and to do justly to all men , and to love and shew mercy unto all People , and to walk in Lowliness , and in true Humility before the Lord ; and these things the Lord requires of every one , and it is the duty of every one so to do . And now if this good Spirit of Christ did bear rule in every ones Heart , it would lead and guide them in all Truth and Righteousness , and it would lead and bring them out of all the wicked and ungodly Ways , and Worships , and evil Practices which are acted and done amongst all the Sons and Daughters of men , which are now in the fall , and live in Sin and Transgression against God , and so are found to be in the unregenerate state , and such are dead in their Sins and Trespasses , tho' their Bodies be alive in this World : and if this good Spirit aforesaid did bear rule in every Heart , there would not be that Killing nor Destroying one another , neither about Religion , nor no earthly thing whatsoever ; and therefore I would have all People to take notice , that there are two Spirits , a good Spirit , and an evil Spirit ; and the good Spirit comes from God , and the evil Spirit comes from the Devil ; and the good Spirit leads People up to God , to have fellowship & communion with him in spirit , in their hearts & souls ; and this is the only Communion which is spiritual , that is alone necessary and needful for every one to know in truth , as to their Everlasting Happiness with the Lord , when time here in this World shall be no more to them . And the evil Spirit draws and leads people from God , into all manner of Sin and Wickedness , some into one kind of Sin , and some into other kind of Sin ; so that all People upon the Earth are Sinners , and live in Sin so long as this evil Spirit guides and bears rule in their hearts , and every one is a Servant to whether of these two Spirits he doth obey ; and to whether of these two Spirits be yields his Members servants unto , his Servants they are to whom they do obey , whether it be unto that spirit which leads them into Sin and Evil , which is the wicked Spirit , or it be that they do obey the good Spirit , which leads and guides all them that are led and guided by it , into all Truth and Righteousness , and out of all Sin and Iniquiry ; And whosoever hath not the Spirit of Christ , they are none of his , let them profess what they will , or be of what Judgment or Religion soever , if they have not the Spirit of Christ in them for to teach , and instruct , and counsel them , they are none of Christ's Servants nor Ministers ; read these Scriptures , Rom. 8. 6. to vers . 15. Rom. 6. 12. to the end , 1 John 3. 4. to vers . 11. Tit. 2. 11. to the end , John 1. 1. to vers . 13. 1 Cor. 12. 7. And all them that do love and believe in the Light and Spirit of Christ in them , which shews them Sin , and reproves them in their own Hearts and Consciences , many times when they do sin , insomuch that I have heard several people say , when they have sinned , I pray God forgive me ; when as at that time no Person outwardly did speak to them ; but it was the Light and Spirit of Christ in them , that shewed them that they had sinned against the Lord at that time ; and whosoever minds and takes heed to that Light and Spirit of Christ in them , and believes in it , so as to obey and follow it , it will not only shew them their Sins and evil Deeds which they have done and committed against the Lord ; but it will beget a perfect hatred against all Sin in them , that do truly love and believe in this Light and good Spirit aforesaid , and it will beget secret crys and breathings unto the Lord , in their hearts and souls , that he would be pleased to pardon them , and to give them power for the time to come to forsake the evil of their Ways and Doings ; that they might never sin against the Lord any more ; and this hath been my state and con●●●ion , and many more of the People of God ; and now we can say in truth , to the praise and glory of the Lord it is spoken , that we that were Sinners and Unbelievers , and were dead in Sins & Trespasses in days & years that are past and gone , as well as others ; and then at that time when we were in that sad and miserable state and condition , as aforesaid , the Lord was pleased out of his infinite love , mercy & goodness , for to reveal and make known himself unto us , even at that time when we were Enemies , Aliens and Strangers unto him by wicked Works , which we had done against the Lord , notwithstanding all our Profession of Religion , and fair pretences which we made , that we did love the Lord , and believe in him , and did worship and serve him , as we thought then ; but it pleased the Lord of his great love and kindness to us to appear in our hearts , by his Light and good Spirit , which he manifested and revealed in us at that time ; and the Lord was pleased by his Light and Spirit for to search our hearts , and to let us see the deceit and the evil that was in our hearts , by reason of Sin and Iniquity , which the Enemy of our Souls , ( which is the wicked spirit ) had wrought in our hearts , and we knew it not , when we lived in our sins , and took pleasure and delight therein ; and so instead of denying our selves from doing those things , which did offend and displease the Lord , we did those things which did offend him and grieve his holy Spirit , as too many do now ; and when we did those things which grieved the Lord , we did not then walk in the strait and narrow way that leads to Life and Peace with the Lord ; but we were then walking in the broad and wide way that leads to Hell and Destruction , which many Thousands are now walking in , that live in their sins , and take pleasure and delight therein ; but now the Lord out of his free love , and grace , and mercy hath called us out of the evil of the World , and the vain Conversation that people live and walk in , both Professors and Prophane , and he hath revealed and made known his Mind and Will unto us , what he would have us for to do , and what he requires of us , which is to live the Lord with all our Hearts , above all visible things that are in the World ; and also to fear , serve , honour and obey him in Truth and Righteousness , and to do justly with all men , and to love Mercy and walk Humbly with God ; and now we find that the Lord hath made a Remnant of us freely willing for to serve and obey him , and to do his Will in what he makes known unto us , in all things which he commands and requires of us for to do . And this great Work which the Lord hath already wrought in our hearts , and the great things which he hath done for us , and in us , by his Power and Spirit , he hath not done it for any goodness , or worthiness , or any deserts which he saw in us , nor for any Works of Righteousness which we have done , whereby to move , or to ingage the Lord for to do these great things , either for us , or in us ; but he hath done all these things for his own Name sake , and in love to our immortal Souls , and out of his free Love , and Mercy , and Kindness to us , for which we are bound in duty , and are ingaged to return unto the Lord all Honour , Glory , Praise , Thanks , Love , Fear , Reverence and Obedience ; for unto him alone it doth belong , both from me , and from all that know how good and gracious he is , and hath been unto them , who is God over and above all , blessed and praised be his great , holy , and heavenly Name , both now henceforth , for ever , and for evermore ; Amen . And now I would have all People to take notice , where this may come , that all Persons and People that despise and reject the Light and Spirit of Christ in them , which shews them their Sins , and reproves them in secret when they do evil , and say , It is but a natural Light , and that it is not sufficient , nor hath power to save people from their sins , nor to keep and preserve them out of sin , all such are Unbelievers , and hate Christ , and love their evil Deeds ; for Christ is that Light and good Spirit in them , and he hath given a measure of it freely to every one to profit withal : and all them that truly love and believe in this Light and good Spirit in them , and is willing for to obey and follow it , all such will come to know Salvation and Redemption by Christ from their Sins and Iniquities ; but all those that hate , and despise , and reject the Counsel and Teaching of this Light and good Spirit in them , and so slight and undervalue it , and count it a thing of nought , it will be the Condemnation of all such , and the Lord will be found just when he comes to judge them ; and this Light and good Spirit in them will bear witness against them when they come to Judgment , which will be more than a hundred Witnesses outwardly ; read these Scriptures , John 1. 9 , 10 , 11 , 12. chap. 8. 12. chap. 12. 46. chap. 3. 19 , 20 , 21. 2 Cor. 13. 5. Col. 3. 11. Chap. 1. 27 , 28. And I do verily believe , that there is and shall be a Resurrection , both of the Just and Unjust without respect of Persons , w 〈…〉 just God of Heaven and Earth , for to give 〈…〉 all their Deeds and Actions which they have 〈…〉 time , and every one shall receive a Reward from God , 〈…〉 their Deeds which they have done in their Bodies , whether they be good or evil . And now it concerns both me , and every one for to prise our time , which the Lord is pleased to give to us to live upon the Earth , that we may walk circumspectly and wisely , in the wisdom of God , before the Evil day come , which will certainly come upon the Wicked and Ungodly , that live and dye in their Sins and Iniquities : And it is the true desire of my Heart and Soul , that we may all spend our time which the Lord gives us to live upon the Earth to Gods honour and glory , by bringing forth good Works and Actions in our holy Lives and godly Conversations , to the praise and honour of his great and worthy Name , that so we may answer the end for which God hath made and created us , which is to love him with all our Hearts , and to fear , serve , honour and obey him in Truth and Righteousness , whereby God Almighty may be honoured and glorified , both in us and by us , who is worthy to have all the Honour , Glory , Praise , Thanks , Fear and true Obedience , for unto him alone it doth belong , both from me , and from all that know the Lord how good he is to them , both now and for ever , and for evermore ; Amen . Read these Scriptures , Rom. 14. 12. 2 Cor. 5. 10. Rev. 22. 12. And now I shall come to mention something of the Cruelties and Persecutions of the Episcopal Clergy , who are Teachers of the People of the Church of England , so called , and some of their Hearers and Members of their Church that assisted them in their Cruelties ; first , they Imprisoned many Hundreds of the People of the Lord , called in scorn Quakers ; and by their means we were put into nasty Holes and Dungeons amongst Thieves and Murderer ; and some of us were Fettered and Chained with Irons on both Legs as they do to the worst of Malefactors ; and our Friends and Acquaintance were not suffered for to come to see us , although some of our Friends did come a Hundred Miles or more , for to see us , and neither they nor we could be suffered to see one another ; and they have gone away without seeing of us ; nor there was not any suffered to come to relieve us , nor to help us to such things for our Money as we stood in great need of ; nor we were not suffered to have any manner of Bedding brought in , not so much as a little Straw to lie upon , to keep us off the cold Ground , although we would have paid for it : and this was worse Cruelty than many use to their Dogs and Swine : And so the Goalers would force us to buy Victuals of them at their own rate , or else we must have none , which was dearer by half then we might have had it of other People , if we could have been suffered to buy it at best hand ; and there many were kept in Prisons until they dyed , by reason of such Cruel Usage as aforesaid . And these Clergy-Men caused many of our Houses to be rifled , and they went into the Grounds , and took and carried away out of our Houses and Grounds much Goods and Chattels several times , which they sold at an undervalue , less by half than they were worth : And they took away Goods and Chattels from many of us , which were worth above five times more than they could prove to be their due ; and they distrained all the Goods in some Houses , and left them not a Bed to lie upon , neither for the Man of the House , nor his Wife , Children nor Servants , although some of the men's Wives , which had their Houses so rifled and plundred , was but newly delivered of a Child , or Children ; and so they took no Pitty , nor shewed no Mercy neither to Men , Women or Children , that were in such a state and condition as aforesaid : And thus they have Ruinated several Persons and their Families , by taking away their Goods and Chattels , which they and their Families should have lived upon : They did live very well & comfortably before these wicked ungodly Clergy-Men , and the Upholders of them came upon them thus to destroy them . And they have taken away Goods and Chattels from us worth many Thousands of Pounds . And all these Cruelties and Wickedness they have done and acted against us , is only because we could not for good Conscience-sake pay them Tythes , and Money for their Preaching , as Ministers of Christ , which we know in our own Hearts and Consciences , and also by the Scriptures of Truth , that neither Christ , nor his true Ministers , never ordained any such wages , nor they never practiced any such things , nor never took Tythes nor Money for their Preaching , nor never preached such a Doctrine as these Tything Hireling-Priests do now : But on the contrary , they denyed all such ungodly ways and practices , and spoke against them , and said , That Covetousness is Idolatry , and the love of Money is the Root of all Evil ; And , that these things ought not to be done , nor practiced amongst the Ministers of Christ ; and as the Apostle Paul said , so say we , If any one Preach any other Gospel , or any other Doctrine , than that which the Ministers of Christ preached unto the People formerly , let him be accursed . And the Ministers of Christ were endued with Power f●●● on High , and they were taught of Christ ; and the Gospel which they preached , they neither received is of man , neither were they taught it of man , neither did they learn it at any outward Schools of humane Learning ; neither did they buy it for Money ; but the Lord did reveal it unto them by his holy Spirit , which He gave unto them freely ; and so they Preached freely without any Tythes or Money : neither did they go to Law , nor compel , nor cast any sort of People into Prison , because they gave them not Tythes nor Money for their preaching . And therefore I do affirm , that all the Priests and Clergy-Men that , are in the whole World , that either preach or teach to any sort of People for either Tythes or Money , or both , they are all guilty before the Lord of that great Sin of Covetousness , and the love of Money , which is the Root of all Evil ; besides many other great Sins which they are guilty of in the sight of God : And the Wicked and the Unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God , nor any Covetous Man , who is an Idolater , hath any Inheritance in the Kingdom of Christ , or of God. Read these Scriptures , 1 Cor. 6. 9 , 10. Eph. 5. 3 , 4 , 5 , 6. Col. 3. 5. 6. Heb. 13. 5. Luke 12. 15. And whereas many of you Clergy-Men , and others , have falsly accused us , in saying , That we deny Authority , and will not be subject nor obedient to Authority , &c. To which I Answer , not only for my self but in the behalf of my Friends , who are in scorn called Quakers ; And this I can certainly say , and declare unto all sorts of People , that we do really own and honour Authority in our Hearts , such who are Men of Truth , and hate Covetousness , and all such as punish Evil-Doors , and incourage them that do Well ; and all such Magistrates as these I do believe are ordained and appointed of God to be a Terror to the Wicked , and them that do Evil : and such are a means to hinder the Wicked form acting such gross Wickedness as many of them would do , if it were not for fear of an outward Law , and of such Magistrates as they know will punish them for their Offences ; and such Magistrates as those , that are a means for to incourage and strengthen people in doing that which is good , and to suppress Vice , We are willing for to be subject and obedient to them in all things that are Temporal , which is lawful and expedient to be done : And all those Magistrates which now bear Rule , or may hereafter come to bear Rule amongst us , we can promise and ingage unto them , That we will never Plot , nor Contrive any Evil thing against them , nor any of them , whereby to hurt or wrong them any manner of way : We shall never rise up in Rebellion against any Governour or Government whatsoever , as to sight against them with any Carnal Weapon ; and if they should be su●fered to make Laws against us , as many have done formerly , and command us to d●● at which we know is a Sin against the Lord , if we do it ; or if they should require any thing of us , which we cannot do for Conscience sake , yet notwithstanding we shall not resist them by force of Arms , but by the help of the Lord , I hope , we shall be made willing by him for to give up our Bodies and Estates to suffer for Christ's sake , whatsoever the Lord may suffer them to do against us . And this the People of God did in all Ages , that were and are faithful and obedient to him in what he manifested unto them ; as for instance , Did not the Rulers Imprison Peter and John , and afterwards they threatened to punish them , and commanded them , That they should not speak nor teach to any man in the Name of Jesus ; And they answered , and said unto them , Whether it be right in the sight of God to hearken unto you more than unto God , judge ye ? And they said further , We cannot but speak the things which we have seen and heard : And they departed from the presence of the Council , rejoycing that they were worthy to suffer shame for the Name of Christ ; and daily in the Temple , and in every House where they came , they ceased not to Teach and Preach Jesus Christ . And the Rulers , and Chief Priests and Pharisees , and such like wicked People , persecuted many of the Ministers of Christ , and did imprison and abuse them exceedingly ; and some they killed , only for preaching the Gospel , and speaking against their ungodly Ways and evil Practices which they lived and walked in ; yet notwithstanding they could not put them to silence by all their Cruelties and Persecutions which they inflicted upon them , neither could they hinder them that were living from preaching the Gospel . And so it is good for every one of us to be faithful unto the Lord in what he makes known unto us , and trust him , and be willing to give up to suffer for his sake , if he calls us thereunto , and he will appear in his own good time for our deliverance , out of all our Troubles and Tryals , both inward and outward , wherein we shall have cause to bless and praise the Name of the Lord , for his great love and kindness to us , who is worthy to have all the Honour Glory , Praise and Thanks ; for unto him alone it doth belong , both from me , and from all that know him experimentally , both now and for evermore . Read these Scriptures , 〈…〉 and Chap. 〈…〉 . Acts 4. & Chap. 6. 8. vers . to the end . Ac● 7. 5● . vers . to the end . And now I shall men●ion something concerning false Prophets , who they are , an● now they may be known , because such things have been cast upon 〈◊〉 that have spoken in our Meetings , that They were false Prophets , and if it were possible , they would deceive the very Elect , &c. To which I Answer , That there is not any Person or People that live and walk in Sin , and take pleasure and delight therein , and plead for a continuance in it 〈◊〉 term of Life , and say , That there is none can be set free from Sin in this Life . that can witness any thing of their Election by the working of Christ's Spirit in them ; and all such are deceived already by the deceitfulness of Sin , which bears rule in the Hearts of all the Children of Disobedience , who are disobedient to the Light and Spirit of Christ in them ; and suell are in the broad way that leads to Destruction , and are in the state of Reprobation and Condemnation : But the true Prophets which the Lord sent , prophesied freely , without either taking Tythes or Money , and they prophesied truly that which came to pass ; and they bore witness against the false Prophets and false Shepherds , that prophesied for Money and Hire ; as for instance , read Isa . 55. 1. 2 , 3. Chap. 56. 10 , 11. And Isaiah was a true Prophet , and sent of God , and he did ( as I may say ) comparatively , make as it were a Proclamation , and saith , Ho , every ●re that thirsteth , come ye to the Waters , and he that hath no Money , come ye , buy and eat ; yea , come buy Wine and Milk without Money and without Price . And he saith unto the People , Wherefore do ye spend Money for that which is not Bread , and your Labour for that which satisfieth not ; Hearken diligently unto me , saith the Lord , ( by that true Prophet ) and eat ye that which is good , and let your Soul delight it self in Fatness . Here People may see how the Lord by his true Prophet invites every one for to come to the Waters , and buy and eat freely , that which is good for their Souls , without Money and without Price ; and he exhorts them that they should not spend their Money for that which is not Bread , and their Labour for that which would not satisfie their thirsty Souls . And now the generality of people are spending and giving their Money for that which is not the Bread of Life , neither will it satisfie any hungry thirsty Soul that truly hungers and thirsts after the Lord and his Righteousness . And this true Prophet called the false Prophets and false Shepherds , which spoke and prophesied for Money , dumb Dogs , greedy Dogs , which can never have enough , and they all look to their own way , every one for his Gain from his Quarter : And he told them that they were blind and ignorant , and so they did not understand the things of God. And now if people be not wilfully blind and ignorant , you may see that there is as much difference between the true Prophets of God , and the true Ministers of Christ , and the false Prophets and false Minstors , that either preach or prophesie for Tythes , or Money , or both , as there is betwixt Light and Darkness . And now I have something to propound unto all you Clergy-Men , before mentioned , which do profess , and say , that you are true Believers and Ministers of Christ , and that you follow Christ and his Ministers for your Example ; and that the Scriptures are your Rule and Guide for to walk by ; first , Where do ye find or read in all the holy Scriptures of Truth , that any of the Ministers of Christ ever went to any Schools of outward Learning , and staid several Years there , and did commence from one degree of Learning unto another , for to be made Ministers of Christ , as you Clergy-Men did , and do now ? And when you have been several Years at such Schools or Colledges , until you think that you are Artists , and are sufficient for to preach to People , then you get an Order to Preach : And so you come from those Schools into the Country , and inquire where there is a vacant place , where there is no Ministers , and then you endeavour to get that place for to Preach at , if you like their Wages ; but if not , then you inquire for to get a better place , where there is most Tythes or Money , which is worth so much by the Year ; and this is your Call to your Ministry ▪ But the true Ministers of Christ were never called nor made Ministers after such a way and manner as yours is . And is not this way of yours , in being made Ministers , like unto a man that binds his Son to be an Apprentice with a Trades-man for several Years to learn him his Trade , and gives him so much Money for so doing ; & when his time is expiered , his Master gives him his Indentures , and then he becomes a free man to set up his Trade , and to trade for himself without any opposition ? But these Clergy-Men before mentioned , exceed all the Trades-men in the World , that have any Principle of Honesty ruling in them ; for when an honest Trades-man sells his Commodity , he delivers it to them , ( or some for them ) that buys it and pays for it : But these Covetous Clergy-Men aforesaid , sell their Sermons for Tythes , or Money , or both , and keeps them still , and do not deliver them to those that pay for them : And when they have a mind to go to another Town to Preach , they may have some of their old Sermons still for to preach to that people ; and if that people do not give them any Money for that Sermon , yet notwithstanding they are paid for it by their own Hearers , which pay them so much every Year for their Preaching , which may amount to ten Shillings , or more , for every Sermon they preach throughout the whole year : Did ever the Ministers of Christ do any such things as these ? And further , where do you find or read in all the Scriptures , that any of the Ministers of Christ took either Tythes or Money for their Preaching , or went to Law with any sort of People , and took away their Goods and Chattels , and cast them into Prisons for not paying of them Tythes , or Money for their Preaching , as these ungodly covetous Clergy-Men have done unto as these many Years , and still continues and goes on in these wicked ungodly Practices against us , as is before mentioned ? And further , where do ye find or read in all the Scriptures , that any of the Ministers of Christ , when they went to preach , took a Text of other Mens Words , and from those words raised Doctrines , Reasons , Motives , Uses and Applications , as you Clergy-Men do now ? And further , where do you find or read in all the Scriptures , that any of the Ministers of Christ baptized Infants , and had Sureties to stand up for them , and to promise that they shall forsake the Devil , and all his Works , the vain Pomp and Glory of the World , with all Covetous Desires of the same , the Carnal Desires of the Flesh , so that they will not follow nor be led by them . And all this the Witnesses promise in the behalf of that Child , or Children that they stand up for ; and when the Priest asketh those Witnesses , whether they do forsake the Devil and all his Works , and all things above expressed , they say , that They do forsake them all ; which is a Lye in the sight of God and his People . And these Persons and People which do so promise and say as aforesaid , they are such as live and act in sin and evil , which is of the Devil , who is the author of all sin and evil that is committed against God by all the Sons and Daughters of men in the fall , who are unregenerated , and not born again of the Water and Spirit of Life : and these people which do thus say and promise , as aforesaid , they are such as do not believe that Perfection from Sin can be attained unto in this Life ; and that none shall be set free from Sin so long as they live in this World ; such as these take upon them to be called Godfathers , and Godmothers ; and the Children which these people stand up for and promise so on their behalf , are taught to ask them Blessing , and to call them Godfathers and Godmothers ; which thing is unwarrantable in the fight of God , the Maker and Creator of all mankind , and of all other Creatures whatsoever . And how dare any People be so bold and wicked , as to take upon them for to be so called , as aforesaid ? And further , where do you find or read in all the Scriptures , that any of the Ministers of Christ did Marry any People , or did say Prayers over the Dead , or Churched any Women , as it is called ; and all these things the Clergy-Men aforesaid , do , and practice for Money , besides their Tithes and Money for Preaching . And further , where do ye find or read in all the Scriptures , that any of the true Bishops and Ministers of Christ , that were ordained and appointed by him , did assume to themselves , and did take upon them such high Names and Titles , as to be called Lord and Masters , as these Bishops and Clergy-Men do ●ow ? And where do ye find or read in all the Scriptures , ●●at Timothy and Titus were called Lord Bishops , which were true Bishops , and ordained of God ? And where had they any Bishopricks , and many hundreds of Pounds by the Year , as these Bishops have now ? And are not these great Names and Titles , and these rich Bishopricks , which they own and have gotten to themselves , contrary to the mind and will of God , and contrary to the practice of the true Bishops which were ordained of the Lord , and contrary to the Scriptures , be not a means to beget them into Pride and Highmindedness , and Self-exaltation , and not into Humility and Lowliness of Heart ; so as to be gifted and qualified as the true Bishops were , that were ordain'd of God ? And where do you find or read in all the Scriptures , that ever any of the true Prophets or Ministers of Christ were called Master , as a Name or Title to set up Self above the common sort of People ? And did not Christ cry Wo against all such that went in long Robes , and had the uppermost Room at Feasts , and love Greetings in the Markets , and the Chief Seats in the Synagogues , and are called of men Rabbi , which is Master ? And Christ said unto his Ministers , Be not ye called Masters , for one is your Master , even Christ , and ye are Brethren ; and be that is the greatest among you , shall be your Servant . And the Apostle Paul who was a true Minister of Christ , said , That though I be free from all Men , yet I have made my self Servant unto all , that I might gain the more . And so he was not called Lord , nor Master , as a flattering Title amongst men , which upholds Pride and Highmindedness , as these Bishops and Clergy-Men are now ? And did ever the Ministers of Christ demand ten Shillings for a Mortuary , and take it , as these Clergy-Men do now ? And further , where do you find or read in all the Scriptures , that any of the Ministers of Christ set People to sing David's Psalms , which are put into Rhime and Meter , by Hopkins and S●erhould , and others ? And whether they that sing David's Psalms now , and are not in his state and condition that he was in , when he spoke those Words , which are recorded in the Book of Psalms ? do not such sing Lyes in Hypocrisie , yea or nay ? For though those Sayings were true in David , because he was in that condition which he spoke of at that time , when he spoke those Words ; but those Sayings are not true in them that know nothing of his condition ; for he was in several conditions , as may be seen in the Book of Psalms : And how can people sing so long as their Souls are in Captivity , and they themselves in bondage to Sin ; and so people must come to know Salvation and Redemption wrought by Christ in them from their Sins and Iniquities , before they can sing in Truth ? And further , where do you find or read that the Ministers of Christ had a Book of Common-Prayer , or a Mass-Book provided for them , for to read to people for Money , as these Clergy-Men do now ? Or where do ye find in all the Scriptures , that any of the Ministers of Christ , or any other People , that were true Believers and Followers of Christ , did ever read and say their Prayers in a Book , when the Lord moved them by his holy Spirit to pray unto him ; but they waited upon the Lord until they were endued with Power from on High ; and then they preached and prayed according as the Lord by his Spirit in them did help and assist them , and gave them utterance for to do and perform what the Lord did require of them , as appertaining to the Worship and Service of God. And now I shall propound one thing more , which is of great Concernment ; Where do ye find or read in all the Scriptures , that ever any of the Ministers of Christ , or any true Christians or Saints , who were true Believers and Followers of Christ , that any of them did compel or demand any Money of any sort of People , for mending and repairing those Houses and Places where the true Ministers and People of God meet for to worship him in . And now I have something more to declare unto all that profess Christianity , and Salvation by Christ , which do say and believe , that they are already Saved , and Redeemed , and Justified by Christ and his Righteousness without them , although they be of that Faith and Perswasion , that They must live in Sin as long as they live upon the Earth ; and that none can be set free from Sin in this Life , &c. To which I Answer ; That all that are of that Faith and Perswasion are deceived by the Deceiver , and that Faith and Perswasion was never begotten by the Lord , but by the evil one , who is the author of all Sin and Evil : For I do affirm , that all People that know Christ spiritually and experimentally to be their Saviour and Redeemer , and that he hath already saved , and redeemed , and justified them ; then no such , persons nor 〈◊〉 will any more plead for Sin , nor a continuance in 〈◊〉 term of Life ; but all such people do believe that Freedom from Sin is to be attained unto in this Life : and all such People that are truly saved , and redeemed , and justified by Christ , as aforesaid , they hate Sin and every appearance of it , in Thoughts , Words end Actions , both in themselves , and in all others where they see Sin 〈…〉 ed , acted and done against the Lord ; But mark what followes , That before any can come to know experimentally that Christ hath saved and redeemed , and justified them , they must first come to know Sin to be mortified , killed , and destroyed in their Hea●● by the working of the Power , and Spirit of Christ in them ; and also they must come to know Sanctification to be wrought in their Hearts by the power of the Lord in them , before that they can come to know , or to witness Justification by Christ , and his Righteousness : For all that are or shall be truly saved and redeemed , and justified by Christ , they are and shall be saved , and redeemed , and justified by Christ from their Sins , and from their Iniquities ; but not in their Sins , nor in their Iniquities ; for Christ Jesus neither saves , nor redeems , nor justifieth any Man or Woman is their Sins , but from their sins ; and whosoever he , she , or they are , that live and act in Sin and Evil , and takes pleasure and delight therein , and pleads for a continuance in Sin term of Life , and believes that there is none that can be set free from Sin in this Life their is no such persons nor people that are already say 〈◊〉 nor redeemed , not justified by Christ and his Righteousness . But some may object , and say , Did not Christ come to save Sinners and to justifie 〈…〉 . It is true that he did so ; but he came not to save Sinners in their sins , nor to justifie the Ungodly in their Ungodliness , but from their Sins , and from their Ungodliness ; as they in love and obedience to God came to forsake their Sins and their Ungodliness . And there is no Man nor Woman upon the Earth that can know Christ in Truth , and experimentally to be their Saviour and Redeemer , and Justifier , any further than he doth save , and redeem , and justifie them from their Sins , and from their Ungodliness , so as to mortifie and destroy Sin in them . But some may say , That the Righteousness of Christ is imputed unto us . It is true , it is so unto his people , but the Righteousness of Christ is not imputed to any one that lives and walks in Unrighteousness , and takes pleasure and delight therein ; read these Scriptures , Mat. 1. 21. Tit. 2. 14. 1 John 1. 7. Rev. 1. 5. Gal. 2. 17. Psal . 143. 2. Exod. 23. 7. And now whereas I have heard many People say , That the Quakers Religion is but a new upstart Religion , and is but of a few Years standing , &c. To which I Answer ; That I can make it appear by sufficient Grounds and Reasons , that our Religion and Principles , and Doctrine which we preach and hold forth unto all people where we come , it is of above sixteen Hundred Years standing ; and we are in the same Faith , Hope and Belief of God and Christ , and walk in the same Light , Life , and Spirit of Christ , and in the same Way and Practice , as to the Worship of God , and Christ and his Ministers , and Disciples did Preach , and Teach , and Practice , and hold forth unto all people where they came , above sixteen Hundred Years ago . And now all you Clergy-Men aforesaid , that say you are Ministers of Christ , and the Scriptures are your Rule to walk by , Answer all these Things which are here laid to your Charge by plain Scriptures , without wresting or perverting any of them to a wrong sence , and answer in plainness , without your Logick or Syllogisms , or without using any of your Hebrew , Greek or Latin , which any carnal earthly-minded Men may have , that are brought up Schollars at your Schools , which are in capacity to learn humane Learning , which may be bought for Money . And so it appears plainly , both in the sight of God , and his People , by your wicked ungodly Actions and Practices , which you have done and acted both against the Lord , his Truth and People , that you have received nothing from God , as the true Ministers of Christ did , and doth row ; neither were you brought up at Christ's School , nor never were taught of him , as the true Ministers of Christ were , and are now ; and so what you have you and your Friends have bought with Money ; and so you sell it again for Money to those that are willing to be taught by you , which knows no better teaching , and so you are a means to bring up people that are your Hearers , in Darkness , Blindness and Ignorance , as you your selves are in ; and so you all live without the true Knowledge and Injoyment of God in this world : And so the People of the Lord that are taught of him by his Holy Spirit , cannot for good Conscience-sake buy any of your deceitful Wares , nor cannot give you any Tythes , nor Money for preaching , which speak and preach against Perfection from Sin in this Life , and say that None can be set free from Sin in this Life ; and so you deny the sufficiency of Christ , and his Commands , and your Faith and Belief stands in him who is the author of all Sin and Evil , which is the Devil ; and so your speaking and preaching , as aforesaid , doth incourage and strengthen the Wicked in their Wickedness , and you are a means to beget them into Unbelief , that they may believe as you do , that their is no Perfection from Sin in this Life : And so neither you , nor they that are your Hearers , do press after Perfection , because you do not believe that such a good state and condition can be attained unto in this Life ; and so your Doctrine , and Principles , and Practices , are all quite contrary to the Doctrines , and Principles , and Practices of Christ and his Ministers , and all true Believers and Followers of Christ , and also quite contrary to the Scriptures of Truth in every thing that you do and practice concerning the Worship of God , and therefore you are to be disowned and denyed by all good Christians that truly fear the Lord , and loves him in Truth and in Sincerity of heart ; and all your Preaching and Praying is abomination in the sight of the Lord , and he will not hear nor answer the Prayers of the Wicked , that live and delight in Sin and Wickedness , and walk and act in such wicked Wayes and Practices as these Clergy-Men do now , which is all quite contrary to the 〈◊〉 Way of God. And now I have something to mention and lay before you all , that are called Christians , of all sorts of Professions and Religions , whether they be called Quakers , or any other sort of Professions or Religions whatsoever , that do say , and believe that God is your Father , and Christ is your Saviour ; I desire that every one would seriously weigh and consider their own Ways and Doings , and meditate and ponder the things of God in our own Hearts and Souls , that every one may come to see , and to know what assurance they have of the Love of God to their Immortal Souls , and of their Eternal and Everlasting Inheritance with the Lord in his heavenly Kingdom for evermore , when Time here in this World shall come to an End with us all : For it is not a bare outward Profession of any Religion whatsoever that will avail any of us , as to our own Souls true Peace and Happiness with the Lord for ever , but it must be a real Possession , and an Enjoyment of the Love of God in our own Hearts , that doth avail and satisfie our Souls , which no Man nor Woman upon the face of the Earth can come to enjoy the Love of God , and true Peace and Comfort in him , ( which is of more worth and value than all the outward Enjoyments that are in the whole World ) so long as they live in Sin , and take pleasure and delight therein : for God is pure , holy and righteous , and he is of purer Eyes than to behold Iniquity , as to allow of it in any one ; and without Holiness no Man nor Woman can enjoy the Love and Presence of God to his Soul's Comfort and true Satisfaction in him ; For it is not every one that saith Lord , Lord , that shall enter into the Kingdom of Heaven , but it is he and they , that do the Will of God that shall enter into his Kingdom : And it is not the Hearers , nor the fair Sayers , nor them that have but an outward knowledge of God , that shall be Justified by the Lord ; but it is the Doers of the Will of God , and them only that the Lord will Justifio , and speak Peace unto their Immortal Souls . And so I desire that none would deceive their own Souls , in thinking better of themselves then they are ; for the Apostle Paul saith , Be not deceived , for God will not be mocked , for such as every one soweth , such must they reap , whether it be Good or Evil ▪ And now I appeal to the Witness of God in every Heart and Conscience , of what Name or Religion soever you are of , Whether you are come so far into the true Christian Life , as to believe and obey the first Principle of the true Christian Religion ? And whether you are come so far into the Life of Truth , and into the practice of the holy Scriptures , as to let your Yea be Yea , and your Nay be Nay , and do not alter nor change your Minds and Thoughts after you have said it , but let Yea and Nay stand after you have spoken it , and do and perform what you have said ? And so every one ought-to be watchful and careful how to speak and act , before they either speak or act , l●st they offend the Lord by so doing ; for the Apostle James saith , If any man among you seem to be Religious , and brid●eth not his Tongue , but deceiveth his own Heart , this man's Religion is vain . And whosoever they be that promise for to do such and such things , which are just and lawful to be done , and ought to be performed ; then if they that promise for to do such things , do not mind nor regard to perform their Words and Promises which they have spoken and promised , their Religion is vain , let them profess what they will. For such Men and Women that make Promises one to another , and do not mind nor regard to perform them , no such persons ought to be believed , nor trusted , nor to be confided in ; and such have not a true Bridle for their Tongues , and so their Religion is vain and naught , and it is not the true Christian Religion ; read these Scriptures , James 1. 26 , 27. Gal. 6. 7 , 8. Matth. 5. 37. And now I desire all Civil , Sober-minded people , that profess Christianity , and the Scriptures to be your Rule , that you would be so moderate , as to read these Scriptures herein set down , and compare these Scriptures , and the holy Lives and Conversations of Christ and his Ministers , and them that were true Believers and Followers of Christ , with the Unholy Lives and Conversations of these Clergy-Men aforesaid ; and also their Cruelties and Persecutions against those that truly fear the Lord ; and also their Selfish Covetous Actions and Practices which they do and practice for Tythes and Money , under pretence of being Ministers of Christ , and Preachers of the Gospel ; And if you do understand those Scriptures in Truth , as they are , and be not partial in your Judgment , then you may see that there it as much difference betwixt the Doctrine , and Principles , and Practices of Christ and his Ministers , and the Doctrine , and Principles , and Practices of the Clergy-Men aforesaid , as there is betwixt Light and Darkness : And therefore I would not have you for to speak any Evil against that Way which you know not what it is ; But I would have you first for to try all things , and hold fast that which is good . Selby in Yorkshire , the 4th Day of the third Month , 1691. Thomas Goodaire . THE END .