Two speeches spoken at a common hall Octob. 27. 1643 1. by Sir Henry Vane, 2. by Master Marshall; wherein is shew'd the readynesse of the Scots to assist the kingdome and Parliament of England to the vtmost of their power. Vane, Henry, Sir, 1612?-1662. This text is an enriched version of the TCP digital transcription A65191 of text R8959 in the English Short Title Catalog (Wing V78). Textual changes and metadata enrichments aim at making the text more computationally tractable, easier to read, and suitable for network-based collaborative curation by amateur and professional end users from many walks of life. The text has been tokenized and linguistically annotated with MorphAdorner. The annotation includes standard spellings that support the display of a text in a standardized format that preserves archaic forms ('loveth', 'seekest'). Textual changes aim at restoring the text the author or stationer meant to publish. 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A65191) Transcribed from: (Early English Books Online ; image set 53861) Images scanned from microfilm: (Early English books, 1641-1700 ; 240:E74, no 7) Two speeches spoken at a common hall Octob. 27. 1643 1. by Sir Henry Vane, 2. by Master Marshall; wherein is shew'd the readynesse of the Scots to assist the kingdome and Parliament of England to the vtmost of their power. Vane, Henry, Sir, 1612?-1662. Marshall, Stephen, 1594?-1655. 14 p. Printed for Peter Cole ..., London : 1643. Reproduction of original in Thomason Collection, British Library. eng Scotland -- History -- Charles I, 1625-1649. Great Britain -- History -- Charles I, 1625-1649. A65191 R8959 (Wing V78). civilwar no Two speeches spoken at a common hall Octob. 27. 1643. 1. By Sir Henry Vane. 2. By Master Marshall. Wherein is shew'd the readynesse of the S Vane, Henry, Sir 1643 4153 10 0 0 0 0 0 24 C The rate of 24 defects per 10,000 words puts this text in the C category of texts with between 10 and 35 defects per 10,000 words. 2004-10 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2004-10 Aptara Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2004-11 Emma (Leeson) Huber Sampled and proofread 2004-11 Emma (Leeson) Huber Text and markup reviewed and edited 2005-01 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion TWO SPEECHES SPOKEN AT A COMMON HALL Octob. 27. 1643. 1. By Sir Henry Vane . 2. By Master Marshall . Wherein is shew'd the readynesse of the Scots to assist the Kingdome and Parliament of England to the vtmost of their power . LONDON Printed for Peter Cole , and are to be sould at his shop near the Royall Exchang . Anno 1643. Sir Henry Vane his Speech . MY Lord Major , and worthy Aldermen , and the rest of the Gentlemen of the Citie , In obedience to the Commands of both Houses , we that are lately come out of Scotland , and have been eye witnesses ( from the first time of our going over thither ) of the affection of that Nation to this cause and of the deep sence they have of the present state of Affaires here in this Kingdome , are willing at this time to make the same report , and give the same accompt to you of it , as hath been done to the Parliament , that you may take a right measure of the trueth of those things , and not be caried away with misapprehensions , and misinformations from those that disaffect the cause , and would willingly abuse your thoughts , and beleife herein ; and therefore as shortly as I am able , I shall be willing to give you the accompt of those things which I know , and which I have seen there , and which this other Gentleman , a rever●nd Minister , of your owne acquaintance , and of knowne integritie , hath been privie to , that I doe not doubt , what he likewise shall deliver in this businesse you will very readily give credit too , it being nothing but what will be found to be the trueth . For the affection of that Nation , we have had many experiences of it , and of their readie and cheerefull compliance with the desires of this Kingdome , even when they were in their greatest distresses and calamities : When we first came over there , the affaires then of this Nation , were in a much lower condition , then now ( by the blessing of God ) we find them to be ; yet notwithstanding though that Nation had many invitations from those , who as they were forward to promise , so were they able to have bestowed great matters vpon them , and though there were many secret practises among themselves to make them set loose from the cause of this Kingdome , yet so sensible they were , of the danger of Religion here of the near relation that they had to their breethren of England , and of that common calamitie threatned to overrun both Kingdomes , that they were readie to breake through all difficulties , and to expose themselves to all dangers , to take us by the hand , and to joyne cordially with us in the maintaining of this cause ; they did not only expresse this in their words , and outward professions , but we have seen since from time to time , and by severall steps , how they have put it into Action : As soone as ever the the Covenant which was taken here , and solemnly sworne by the Parliament , was come to their knowledge , and sent over unto them , the Committee of Estates there , and the Commissioners of the Genreall Assembly resolved presently for to take that Covenant ▪ with an vnanimous and chearefull consent , as a meanes which under God , they thought would vnite both Nations , in this common cause , and make them a bulwarke against the Common Enemie : They did not only resolve to take it themselves , but enjoyned it throughout the whole Kinghome , and by this time we doe beleive , that it hath been vniversally taken by the whole Nation . They did enjoyne it in such a manner , as that the greatest and powerfullest Enemies of it amongst them durst not shew their heads to oppose it , that is , they enjoyned it upon the penalties , that those that should not take it , or should deferre it , should be esteemed Enemies to Religion , to his Majesties honour , and to the good of the two Kingdomes , that they should have all their Rents and profits confiscate , that they should brooke , nor enjoy any Office , or benefit in that Kingdome , that they should be cited to the next Parliament , to answer the not taking of it , and to be proceeded with there as enemies to the Estate , and to Relegion , and to receive such further punishement , as by the King and Parliament ●●●uld be put upon them , by which meanes they have so vnited the affection of that whole Kingdome ▪ that as one man they are readie to come forth to defend the Religion , the Liberties of both Nations , and to dye in this Common Cause . They have not only proceeded thus farre , which is a happy Foundation to so great an enterprize as is now in hand , but they have formed their Armie , all their Officers from first to last they have setled , they have likewise prepared their Artillerie , and have it in readinesse , at the Rendevouze at Leith : They likewise have all the men that are to be of the Armie designed out throughout the whole Shires , the persons are knowne , and at 48. houres , they are ready for to march , they are as sensible as your selves of the great burthens and extremities that this Nation doth at this time groan under : They know as well too , what vast expenses you have been at to maintaine your owne Armies , and yet they are not ashamed , that you should know also that their Nation hath not been without troubles , as you have been , and that they are not yet without great wants and difficulties , for this storme did begin with them : They have not been without great charges and burthens that hath layen vpon them and particularly even for the advantage of the affaires of this Kingdome , of late they have been at very vast expenses for the maintenance of their Scotch Armie in Ireland , which was set out by them for the service of this Kingdom at the request and desire of the Parliament , by which meanes they are very much disinabled to doe that , which otherwise they would be very willing to doe for our present assistance . They have made it apparent by severall particulars , that before this Armie intended for the present service wil be brought to the Rendevouze upon English ground , one way or other , it will stand them in very neare a hundred thousand pound , which must be at their owne charge and expence , over and above what they desire from us : They likewise have let us know , that they desire not to presse vs beyond our strength in matter of monies , but only so much as may render the service in them feasible which we expect from them : They know very well if they have not monies at the beginning , to encourage and strenghen the hand of the Souldier , in the businesse they undertake , it wil be very disadvantagious to our affaires , therefore they expect we should send them a considerable summe of monie , to make their Armie march , which they have in readinesse for that purpose , as soone as we shall send it to them , and doubt not in a very short time to advance very farre in those Northern parts even this winter , it is that therefore which is expected from us , and that which will ( through Gods mercy ) be a Foundation of releife and recoverie of this Kingdome , from the oppression and tyranny with which it is ready to be overwhelmed , that we should apply our selves to send them some considerable summe of mony , for a speedy marching of this Armie . Upon our comming hither , we find there hath beene a great deale of paines taken in it . And we likewise discerne that much is to be atributed to the cheerefull affections of this famous City , which under God hath been the meanes that hath not only supplied our affaires at home , but hath likewise contributed to those that are abroad ; not-with-standing that which hath hither-to come in , is not as yet so much as will fully doe this worke ; if we could within some few daies be able but to Compasse one twenty Thousand Pound more ? we doe not doubt but we should be able ( with what we have already ) to put the affaires of Scotland in such a Posture , as you shall not only quickly heare a very good account of them , but see the fruit of them , to your greate Comfort and Encouragement . And therfore it is that , that now is recommended to you , that you would be pleased from the knowledge that things are in this readinesse that they are , and that Nation so willing in themselves to come to our assistance ( as this I might have added ) that if any thing lay in their power , either by the morgaging of their owne private Estates , or if there were Money sufficient in Scotland that they could render themselves Masters of , they would be willng to contribute any thing of their owne for the necessities of this Kingdome , so much they are affected with this cause : Therfore seeing they are so sensible themselves of our Condition , it becomes us to be so too , and to put to our helping hand that since so small a summe as this ( for the present ) is that that will be able ( through Gods blessing ) to carry on this worke , that we may with cheerefulnes apply our selves to the compassing of the same : Those that have been willing hitherto , we are to acknowledg thankes to them , and the Houses have thought of an Ordinacce that the burthen shall not lie upon them , but those that are unwilling and disaffected , are by that Ordinance compell'd to that which others out of their good affections are ready to doe ; so as it is recommended to you , that since the Houses have thought fit by an Ordinance to compell others to doe it , that those that are willing would take an incouragement from thence , and goe on readily in their contributions to this worke , that if it were possible we might be masters of this summe within few dayes ; it is that which upon this occasion is thought fit to be offered to you : And because there is an other Gentleman to speake , Mr. Marshall who what ever I have omitted wil be able to make vp , whose words I doubt not , but will take farre deeper impression with you , and all of greater weight then any thing I can say , and I shall give place to him to impart unto you what he shall thinke fit and esteeme worthy of your farther knowledge . FINIS . Master Marshals Speech , spoken at Guild-hall , London , on Friday Octob. 27. 1643. MY Lord Major , and worthy Aldermen , and Gentlemen of this City , God has shewed me that mercy to bee an eye witnesse , and an eare witnesse of all the maine carriages of the Nation of the Scots , in relation to our afflicted condition , since it pleased the two Houses to send me thither , to bee assistant to their Honourable Commissioners ; and I am most willing ( being as I am now called thereunto ) to give you an accompt of what I have observ'd . But this Noble Gentleman hath already declared it so fully , that there is not much left for mee to relate , though I were fitter to speake then I am at this present . Onely this I beseech you believe , that I am able ( as in the presence of God ; to attest the truth of ( I thinke ) every particular hee hath delivered to you , concerning the good affections of that Nation , their tendring our Cause , their willingnesse and readinesse to live and die with us in it ; And since the Lord made mee able to judge of any thing ; I never beheld so much unanimity and consent in so much deepe sense of the Afflictions of Brethren and Neighbours , as I have beheld there , both in the Generall Assembly , and Convention of Estates , and in Multitudes of other well-affected Persons , ●aying our miseries to heart , I believe , as much , if not more , then wee our-selves have done . You have heard the substance of all from Sir Henry Vane ; you may please from me to receive a few things in way of confirmation of what hath beene already delivered unto you : Hee told you , what they have d●ne to help to sustaine the Army of Scots in Ireland , who have beene imployed there seventeene or eighteene Moneths in our service , since they received any pay ( our distresses at home , having hindered us from doing what else we would and ought to have done ) how that they have laid out a very great summe . I adde , they have made it apparant to us , that they have expended in Meale , Clothes , and other Necessaries , no lesse then foure score Thousand pounds this last yeere , toward the subsistance of that Army , which else had perish't before this time ▪ Yea , that in that part of Scotland where we were , about Lowthian ▪ that there was scarce any on Nobleman or Gentleman of any considerable estate , but hee was this last yeere out of Purse one full yeeres Revenue , as if hee were worth 100 , 200 , or 300. pound , Sterl. per Annum , hee hath disburst so much for the Irish Army . And as to that which Sir Henry declared as a demonstration of their willingnesse to Assist us , that they have already charged themselves to the value of 100000. pound . I adde , they have beene so ingenuous and cleere in it , that they have given us a particular to bring with us , which is in the hand of this Noble Gentleman : So that any Man who desires to be satisfied ▪ may see the particulars of the charge which they are put to , but to bring their Army upon English Ground ; and indeed , they so cleerely see the bleeding condition of Religion and Libertie in both Kingdomes , and are so sensible of our great exhaustions , that I have heard many of their worthy Nobles and others , whom God hath stirr'd up to bee Active and Excellent Instruments in this time of Common danger and Calamitie , solemnly to protest ; That were they able to come in , and carry on the worke without putting us to any charge at all , they would do it most gladly ; yea , I am able yet further to say , and have leave to speake it freely , that if money can be found in Christendome , to carry on this work , they are ready not onely to engage the Publike Faith of their Kingdome with ours , ( as you have already received ) But that if either the Bonds or the Mortgages of the Lands of any of the well-affected Nobility or Gentry throughout that Kingdome , will bee taken for security , they are ready to give it ; yea further yet , so deepely are they affected , that they are willing ( I had allmost said ) to Plunder their owne Kingdome to save ours ; being ready , if necessity require it , to call throughout all the Kingdome , each Man to declare upon his Oath , what Money , or Victuall he hath ; that they may therby know what proportion to set out for the maintenance of this Cause . And lest any suspitions , or Malignant Men should surmise , that all this forwardnesse is but to get themselves into some strength in a Countrey , better then their owne , I beseech you know , that the Honourable Commissioners , my self , and others , who have beene attending this Service with them , have received that abundant satisfaction of their integrity and Justice , that what Articles are , or shall be agreed upon betweene them , and the two Houses of Parliament , wee verily believe they will not breake one Article of the Agreement , to gain the Kingdom of England : Their affections to this Cause are as your hearts could wish : it is onely necessity compels them to desire your assistance towards the maintenance of their Army when they are come in ; For should they come in , and Monies faile them , so that for want of Provision ( for you will easily conceive that the Northerne Countries may bee much wasted by the Enemie when they are readie to come ) they should be compelled to disband , or turne to plunder the Countries for want of subsistance , how scandalous , yea how destructive it might prove to both the Kingdomes you your selves are able to judge . They are ready and prepared to come , and I hope it will not bee long before you heare that they are advanced , willing to live and dye with you in this cause of God , and will endevour ( by Gods assistance ) speedily to settle our peace ; and as willingly ( according to their agreement ) to returne home into their owne Scotland , knowing well , that to enjoy peace with God in their owne poore countrey , will be better , then under colour of helping us to usurpe upon ours , though far the richer . Sir Henry Vane related further unto you , what care they have taken , and how roundly they goe to work in putting on the COVENANT , give me leave to adde , that ( beside what the Commissioners of the Convention of Estates have done , in injoyning it under paine of being esteemed and punished as enemies to Religion , his Majesties honour , and peace of the Kingdomes , and to have their Goods confiscate for the use of the publike , &c. ) the Commissioners of the Generall Assembly , according to the power given unto them by the said Assembly , have ordained , That particular account shall be taken by the severall Presbyteries , of all who shall refuse , or shift to sweare and subscribe , and that they bee proceeded against with the censures of the Church , as enemies to the preservation and propagation of Religion . Beside , what this noble Gentleman hath further related concerning their temptations or allurements to desist from this worke , and the other difficulties they are like to meet with in carrying it on , I have nothing to adde , unlesse I should tell you how deeply they are affected with the Cessation in Ireland , and the great danger threatned to both Nations from it ; and the utter ruine of the remainder of our poore Brethren yet preserved from slaughter in that miserable Kingdome : For by this Cessation , they , and all others see , that these bloody Rebells , who have shed so much innocent blood , who boast that they have slaughtered 100000 Protestants , and that they will not leave one Protestant alive in that and this , Kingdome , and who have committed the most out ragious and most barbarous cruelties that have ever beene heard of in Christendome , are now ( notwithstanding all this ) without any either repentance or submission , acknowledged to be his Majesties subjects , and have leave to keepe and hold what they have ; to enjoy free passage , intercourse , commerce , and trafficke , with all other his Majesties good subjects by sea and land , and no interruption to be made to any ships which shall furnish them with Armes , Ammunition , or any thing whatsoever ; their prisoners released , and such as are indicted for any capitall offence to be set at liberty upon baile ; they may send to his Majesty such Agents as they please ; yea they have authority to prosecute all in that Kingdom who shall stand in opposition to this agreement , and all this to last for a whole yeare : in which time , our Brethren in Scotland easily discerne how these inhumane and bloody wretches , may from all other Popish Kingdomes be furnisht , both to root out the remainder of our distressed Brethren of that Nation , and enabled to come over and exercise the like butcheries upon our selves and them . In a word , they looke upon it as the most cleare stating of the Question and intention of these warres , to be betwixt Papists and Protestants : And againe , I say they apprehend extreme danger from this cessation to both these Nations , unlesse some speedy supply be sent over to enable the Scottish army there to give checke to their proceedings , upon whom they will be ready to fall as a Torrent ; and when once they have devoured them ( which God forbid ) we may be sure they will endeavour the like against our selves . In all these our troubles hitherto , our greatest supplies have been drawne , or rather flowed willingly from this Honourable City , and it troubles mee to thinke that I should bee force to use any Rhetorick ( if I had it ) to draw more disbursements of money from you , who to the admiration of all this part of the Christian world have ( under God ) upheld this great cause ▪ and ( I know ) are resolved to live and dye with it : I onely beseech you to consider , that if timely supplies may be found , this crop that hath beene swept off from us , will grow againe with greater abundance , and wee may yet sit every one under our owne Vine , and under our owne Fig-tree ; and , which is much sweeter , enjoy the fruit and benefit of the Gospel of Iesus Christ , which now we contend for , and which these wicked instruments would deprive us of . But if God for our sins should deliver us into the hands of those that have thus desperately plotted our ruine , I thinke none of you would desire to swim when this cause should sinke ; or be vvilling to have either gold , silver , or plate , or any thing found in your houses , vvhen they should come to be possest by these men , vvhose tender mercies would bee more bitter then bloudy cruelties . I beseech you therefore consider of these motions vvhich have been made unto you , and accept of this unfained Relation , which we are able to call God to vvitnesse is nothing but the truth . And for my owne part , I did see more , and doe beleeve more , and my heart hath much more satisfaction concerning the integrity of that Nation , their fellow-feeling of our miseries , and their willingnesse to helpe us , then my tongue is able to utter . This is the sum of vvhat I had to say , the Lord direct you in vvhat you are to doe . FINIS .