A bitte to stay the stomacks of good subiects, or, A suddaine and short vindication of the Scotts Commissioners papers intituled, The answer of the Commissioners of the kingdome of Scotland, &c. from the imputations laid upon them, in the declaration of the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, concerning the papers of the Scots Commissioners, &c. Martij 13 by A.H., Scoto-Britan.
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             A bitte to stay the stomacks of good subiects, or, A suddaine and short vindication of the Scotts Commissioners papers intituled, The answer of the Commissioners of the kingdome of Scotland, &c. from the imputations laid upon them, in the declaration of the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, concerning the papers of the Scots Commissioners, &c. Martij 13 by A.H., Scoto-Britan.
             A. H., Scoto-Britan.
          
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             s.n.],
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             1647.
          
           
             "The answer of the Commissioners" appeared Dec. 27, 1647.
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           A
           BITTE
           To
           stay
           the
           Stomacks
           OF
           GOOD
           SVBIECTS
           .
        
         
           OR
           A
           suddaine
           and
           short
           Vindication
           of
           the
           
             Scotts
          
           Commissioners
           PAPERS
           INTITVLED
           The
           Answer
           of
           the
           Commissioners
           of
           the
           Kingdome
           of
           
             SCOTLAND
             ,
          
           &c.
           from
           the
           Imputations
           laid
           upon
           them
           ,
           In
           the
           Declaration
           of
           the
           
             Lords
          
           and
           
             Commons
          
           Assembled
           in
           
             Parliament
             ,
          
           concerning
           the
           Papers
           of
           the
           
             Scotts
          
           Commissioners
           ,
           &c.
           
           
             Martij
          
           13.
           
        
         
           
             By
          
           A.
           H.
           Scoto-Britan
           .
        
         
           
             Printed
          
           Anno
           Dom.
           1647.
           
        
      
    
     
       
       
         
           HIstory
           informes
           us
           .
           That
           when
           a
           dumbe
           Sonne
           of
           
             Craesus
          
           King
           of
           
             Lydia
             ,
          
           saw
           one
           ready
           to
           stab
           his
           father
           ,
           he
           conquered
           the
           naturall
           impediments
           of
           speech
           ,
           and
           distinctly
           cry'd
           out
           
             Kill
             not
             the
             King
          
           That
           which
           wrought
           this
           Wonder
           ,
           was
           the
           power
           of
           naturall
           affection
           by
           the
           operation
           of
           an
           extraordinary
           Sympathy
           :
           surely
           those
           are
           justly
           chargeable
           ,
           with
           a
           more
           then
           bruitish
           ,
           (
           even
           insensate
           )
           want
           of
           affection
           ,
           and
           Sympathy
           who
           wil
           not
           now
           use
           ,
           what
           Nature
           ordinarily
           affords
           unto
           all
           ;
           (
           Speech
           ,
           )
           to
           rescue
           the
           father
           of
           their
           Country
           the
           
             Kings
             Majesty
             ,
          
           from
           the
           killing
           wounds
           ready
           to
           be
           given
           unto
           him
           :
           This
           duty
           puts
           the
           Pen
           into
           my
           hands
           ;
           and
           without
           the
           Paint
           of
           Apology
           ,
           makes
           me
           (
           in
           the
           absence
           of
           an
           intrusted
           ,
           and
           my
           farre
           more
           able
           countryman
           )
           to
           shew
           unto
           you
           ,
           how
           dangerously
           the
           
             States
             Empetiques
          
           practise
           upon
           the
           body
           politique
           of
           
             Great
             Brittaine
             ,
          
           and
           make
           it
           as
           the
           (
           Evill
           one
           )
           their
           worke
           to
           propogate
           the
           sinne
           of
           their
           Rebellion
           :
           unto
           all
           others
           ,
           especially
           unto
           my
           dear
           Countrimen
           ,
           and
           these
           poysonous
           pills
           ,
           are
           guilded
           With
           the
           pretence
           of
           undeceiving
           the
           people
           of
           both
           Kingdomes
           :
           This
           worke
           begets
           in
           them
           ,
           
             
               Decla
               .
               P.
            
             6
          
           and
           delivers
           them
           of
           ,
           
             A
             declaration
             of
             the
             Lords
             and
             commons
             assembled
             in
             Parliament
             ,
             concerning
             the
             Papers
             of
             the
             Scots
             Commissioners
             ,
             entituled
             the
             Answer
             of
             the
             Commissioners
             ,
          
           &c.
           
           And
           horrid
           impiety
           that
           what
           men
           themselves
           wilfully
           reject
           ,
           they
           should
           envie
           unto
           others
           ;
           
             Repentance
             ,
          
           The
           Scots
           through
           misprison
           of
           zeale
           (
           as
           
             Paul
          
           did
           Christ
           )
           have
           persecuted
           their
           Soveraigne
           ,
           but
           now
           are
           divinely
           
           converted
           ,
           and
           will
           no
           longer
           engage
           with
           the
           Parliament
           in
           this
           sin
           ,
           as
           they
           have
           published
           unto
           the
           world
           in
           their
           Answer
           ,
           upon
           the
           New
           propositions
           of
           peace
           ,
           and
           the
           foure
           Bills
           sent
           unto
           his
           Majesty
           ,
           full
           of
           Honor
           ,
           and
           Honesty
           ,
           cleare
           from
           all
           the
           cavills
           of
           these
           desperate
           contrivers
           ,
           and
           the
           ripe
           consultations
           of
           Men
           ,
           of
           singular
           Iudgement
           ,
           and
           exemplary
           integrity
           :
           who
           sincerely
           represented
           the
           sence
           of
           their
           Nation
           ;
           and
           therefore
           ,
           (
           
             although
             they
             are
             burthened
             with
             forgetfulnesse
             of
             the
             worke
             about
             which
             they
             came
             ,
          
           
             
               P.
            
             8
          
           
             with
             interpositions
             in
             things
             concerned
             them
             not
             ,
             and
             deviation
             from
             the
             trust
             of
             the
             Kingdome
             of
             Scotland
          
           )
           they
           received
           as
           the
           Guerdon
           of
           true
           Patriots
           ,
           and
           experienced
           
             States-men
             ,
          
           before
           their
           departure
           from
           this
           city
           ,
           a
           publique
           Instrument
           of
           thankefull
           approbation
           ,
           from
           almost
           all
           the
           Nobles
           of
           Scotland
           ,
           for
           their
           good
           carriage
           and
           wise
           conduct
           of
           the
           affaires
           of
           that
           Kingdomes
           heere
           :
           So
           that
           wherein
           they
           quarrel
           the
           proceedings
           of
           the
           Commissioners
           they
           might
           have
           been
           pleased
           ,
           
             
               P.
            
             7
          
           (
           but
           it
           made
           not
           for
           them
           
             to
             intend
             the
             Kingdome
             of
             Scotland
             .
          
        
         
           That
           which
           is
           first
           noted
           by
           them
           to
           disgust
           the
           Scots
           ,
           was
           
             the
             alteration
             of
             the
             Propositions
             sent
             to
             Newcastle
             from
             those
             of
             Oxford
             ,
          
           
             
               P.
            
             8
          
           
             in
             the
             management
             of
             the
             Militia
             of
             the
             three
             Kingdomes
             ,
             the
             War
             ,
             of
             Ireland
             ,
             the
             education
             and
             marriage
             of
             the
             Kings
             children
             ,
             &c.
             
             The
             concluding
             peace
             or
             war
             with
             forrain
             Princes
             &c
             :
          
           
             
               P.
            
             10
          
           As
           though
           these
           were
           not
           principall
           interests
           of
           the
           Kingdome
           of
           
             Scotland
             ,
          
           as
           well
           as
           of
           
             England
             ,
          
           and
           was
           the
           prosecuting
           
             these
             interests
             in
             the
             Kingdome
             of
             England
             ,
          
           the
           Offensive
           exercise
           of
           an
           Interest
           in
           that
           Kingdome
           ;
           It
           were
           much
           to
           be
           wished
           this
           distinction
           ,
           had
           beene
           offered
           ,
           before
           the
           Scots
           Army
           left
           England
           :
           Surely
           these
           alterations
           the
           
             Post
             na●i
          
           tells
           us
           ,
           leaves
           them
           worse
           then
           you
           found
           them
           ,
           and
           takes
           from
           them
           their
           birth-right
           of
           equall
           capacity
           with
           your
           Sectes
           joyne
           with
           you
           in
           your
           Rebellion
           at
           first
           ,
           with
           much
           of
           your
           own
           ,
           [
           as
           the
           Devill
           unto
           our
           Saviour
           ]
           you
           tendred
           more
           then
           was
           your
           owne
           ,
           and
           now
           your
           worke
           is
           done
           ,
           will
           you
           deny
           unto
           them
           ,
           what
           is
           their
           owne
           in
           a
           word
           the
           sence
           of
           your
           Resolution
           ,
           
           never
           to
           grant
           
             them
             the
             exercize
             of
             interest
             in
             this
             kingdome
             ,
          
           
             
               P.
            
             62
          
           is
           to
           recede
           from
           the
           Articles
           of
           the
           Treaty
           between
           both
           Kingdomes
           ;
           
             
               P.
            
             76
          
           to
           debarre
           them
           of
           all
           places
           and
           Offices
           of
           trust
           ,
           
             
               P.
            
             80
          
           and
           profit
           in
           this
           Kingdome
           ,
           and
           to
           reserve
           them
           for
           your selves
           and
           your
           confiding
           creatures
           ,
           which
           is
           a
           right
           ,
           and
           interest
           of
           the
           Kingdome
           of
           
             Scotland
             ,
          
           will
           be
           further
           claimed
           ,
           and
           disputed
           with
           you
           :
           Yet
           the
           waving
           these
           interests
           for
           the
           time
           ,
           by
           the
           Scots
           ,
           could
           not
           but
           be
           acknowledged
           to
           proceed
           from
           transparent
           inclinations
           unto
           peace
           ;
           but
           now
           ,
           because
           by
           the
           progresse
           of
           your
           unlimited
           Vsurpations
           upon
           his
           Majesties
           royall
           Rights
           ,
           (
           in
           which
           the
           Interests
           of
           the
           Scotts
           are
           especially
           included
           )
           being
           better
           informed
           ,
           
             they
             differ
             in
             Iudgement
             from
             your
             Propositions
             ;
          
           
             
               P.
            
             22
          
           This
           causes
           your
           wonder
           .
        
         
           Are
           further
           results
           of
           Judgement
           ,
           upon
           further
           and
           more
           cleare
           Information
           no
           wayes
           to
           be
           permitted
           ?
           This
           were
           to
           obstruct
           all
           passages
           ,
           unto
           humare
           certainty
           of
           knowledge
           ,
           which
           is
           perfected
           by
           experience
           ,
           (
           the
           Child
           of
           time
           :
           )
        
         
           But
           these
           men
           (
           because
           they
           will
           compleat
           their
           sinnes
           with
           Obstinacy
           )
           will
           admit
           of
           no
           variation
           from
           their
           first
           principles
           (
           to
           unthrone
           the
           King
           !
           )
           and
           now
           much
           wonder
           that
           the
           Scots
           will
           not
           arrive
           with
           them
           at
           that
           point
           of
           Impiety
           :
           Because
           the
           Scots
           
             cannot
             grant
             that
             his
             Majesty
             ▪
             &
             royal
             succession
             ,
             should
             be
             devested
             of
             the
             power
             of
             the
             Militia
             ,
          
           
             
               P.
            
             11
          
           
             and
             conferring
             Titles
             of
             Honour
             ,
          
           (
           the
           Essentiall
           rights
           of
           Regality
           )
           for
           which
           they
           liberally
           affoard
           them
           solid
           Reasons
           ;
           the
           Parliament
           retrive
           nothing
           to
           procure
           further
           satisfaction
           ;
           but
           blow
           them
           of
           with
           ,
           
             
               P.
            
             12
          
           
             that
             they
             are
             the
             transcript
             of
             the
             Kings
             Arguments
             about
          
           HVLL
           :
           which
           amounts
           unto
           this
           ;
           That
           what
           comes
           from
           the
           King
           (
           how
           consistent
           soever
           with
           Reason
           ,
           )
           cannot
           be
           of
           force
           ,
           or
           worthy
           the
           Answering
           :
           It
           is
           no
           marvell
           the
           Kings
           reasons
           are
           no
           higher
           rated
           by
           them
           ,
           when
           that
           the
           word
           of
           God
           ,
           can
           have
           but
           that
           Authority
           ,
           and
           Acceptation
           with
           them
           ,
           it
           hath
           with
           the
           Devill
           ;
           but
           wherein
           they
           can
           force
           it
           unto
           a
           specious
           (
           though
           false
           )
           Consistency
           ,
           with
           their
           owne
           ends
           ,
           and
           Interests
           :
           And
           it
           cannot
           certainely
           ,
           without
           astonishment
           ,
           and
           
           Horror
           ,
           
             
               P.
            
             24
          
           
             
               P.
            
             38
          
           he
           observed
           ,
           with
           what
           slighting
           ,
           and
           indignation
           they
           mention
           his
           sacred
           Majesty
           throughout
           the
           whole
           Series
           of
           their
           Declaration
           ,
           as
           though
           they
           were
           resolved
           to
           lay
           him
           altogether
           aside
           ,
           as
           some
           monstrouse
           or
           accursed
           thing
           :
           How
           do
           they
           abhorre
           from
           a
           Personall
           Treaty
           ,
           so
           often
           pressed
           by
           the
           Commissioners
           ,
           as
           the
           only
           expedient
           of
           a
           safe
           ,
           and
           well
           grounded
           Peace
           betweene
           his
           Majesty
           ,
           and
           his
           people
           ;
           In
           order
           whereunto
           when
           the
           
             disbanding
             of
             the
             Army
          
           was
           propounded
           by
           them
           ,
           how
           they
           discover
           a
           Tyranny
           awed
           with
           continuall
           feare
           ,
           and
           only
           supported
           by
           the
           power
           of
           an
           Army
           :
           
             Had
             Sir
          
           Thomas
           Fairfax
           
             his
             Army
             beene
             disbanded
             ,
             then
             indeed
             (
             say
             they
             )
             they
             might
             have
             brought
             the
             King
             to
          
           London
           ,
           
             
               P.
            
             13
          
           
             whether
             the
             Parliament
             would
             or
             no
             ,
             and
             have
             brought
             the
             Parliament
             unto
             a
             Personall
             Treaty
             with
             him
             ,
             and
             therein
             unto
             what
             tearmes
             ,
             he
             and
             they
             pleased
             :
          
           This
           is
           the
           greatest
           crime
           they
           charge
           the
           Scotts
           Commissioners
           ,
           with
           :
           
             A
             Personall
             Treaty
             at
          
           London
           
             is
             first
             in
             their
             thoughts
             ,
             and
             discourse
             :
          
           
             
               P.
            
             18
             19
          
           The
           most
           secret
           ,
           and
           greivous
           sinne
           doth
           not
           more
           abominate
           light
           ,
           and
           manifestation
           ,
           then
           Treason
           the
           sight
           of
           Regall
           Majesty
           abused
           by
           it
           ;
           
             The
             presence
             of
             the
             King
             at
          
           London
           
             might
             give
             him
             opportunity
             (
             say
             they
             )
             to
             caiole
             the
             Citizens
             ;
             i.
             e.
          
           to
           cozen
           and
           cheat
           them
           as
           themselves
           have
           done
           :
           )
           Their
           diligence
           employes
           it selfe
           ,
           (
           with
           
             Achan
          
           )
           to
           hide
           the
           Goulden
           wedge
           ,
           and
           goodly
           things
           they
           espied
           in
           this
           City
           ,
           to
           convey
           it
           into
           their
           owne
           stuffe
           ,
           and
           makes
           the
           riches
           thereof
           serve
           unto
           their
           own
           ends
           ,
           with
           which
           ,
           It
           can
           no
           wayes
           stand
           ,
           to
           admit
           King
           
             Charles
          
           unto
           
             Loudon
             :
          
           No
           the
           undeceived
           Citisens
           ,
           would
           have
           too
           many
           representations
           ,
           in
           his
           Majesties
           presence
           ,
           of
           their
           sufferings
           ,
           occasioned
           by
           his
           absence
           .
           
             A
             Treaty
             there
             ,
          
           say
           they
           (
           and
           contrary
           unto
           their
           custome
           most
           truely
           ,
           )
           
             would
             treat
             us
             out
             of
             what
             wee
             have
             fought
             for
             ,
             (
             i.
             e.
          
           the
           Soveraigne
           Dominion
           ,
           )
           
             draw
             the
             whole
             guilt
          
           of
           this
           
             effusion
             of
             blood
             ,
          
           
             
               P
            
             20
          
           
             upon
             our selves
             ,
             and
             tend
             unto
             the
             Apparent
             destruction
             of
             the
             Persons
             ,
             (
             i.
             e.
          
           themselves
           )
           
             that
             have
             engaged
             :
          
           This
           Proposition
           of
           the
           Scots
           Commissioners
           ,
           is
           too
           much
           for
           the
           Advantage
           of
           his
           Majesty
           ,
           and
           
           indeed
           too
           honest
           for
           this
           pack't
           partie
           ,
           the
           present
           partie-colourd
           Parliament
           ,
           to
           yeeld
           unto
           :
           And
           therefore
           ,
           whilst
           he
           is
           
             at
             this
             distance
             of
             affection
             with
             them
             ,
          
           (
           they
           say
           not
           of
           Judgement
           ,
           )
           for
           what
           good
           man
           can
           close
           with
           them
           ?
           
             
               P.
            
             22
          
           
             His
             locall
             absence
             is
             Necessary
             :
          
           But
           nothing
           more
           startles
           this
           Crue
           ,
           then
           that
           the
           Scots
           ,
           should
           now
           varie
           from
           that
           ,
           wherein
           they
           formerly
           concurred
           with
           them
           :
           Or
           what
           
             Reasons
             they
             have
             thought
             on
             since
             ,
             which
             they
             Iudge
             more
             effectuall
             then
             those
             ,
          
           (
           formerly
           .
           )
           I
           will
           assigne
           them
           some
           few
           ,
           of
           many
           ;
           Naturall
           affection
           and
           Loyalty
           ,
           quickned
           by
           the
           word
           of
           God
           and
           conscience
           informed
           ;
           Honor
           ,
           their
           owne
           Interest
           ,
           and
           the
           perfidie
           and
           Irreligion
           of
           this
           present
           Parliament
           ,
        
         
           All
           which
           ,
           by
           a
           joynt
           and
           respective
           Influence
           upon
           them
           ,
           now
           ,
           powerfully
           dispose
           them
           unto
           their
           duty
           of
           Subjection
           ,
           and
           Christian
           Obedience
           ,
           wherein
           they
           are
           obliged
           unto
           their
           Dread
           Soveraigne
           .
        
         
           They
           were
           formerly
           decoyed
           into
           this
           Kingdome
           ,
           under
           those
           winning
           pretences
           ,
           of
           Reformation
           of
           Religion
           corrupted
           ,
           and
           the
           preservation
           of
           the
           just
           liberties
           of
           the
           subject
           encroached
           upon
           ,
           and
           fearing
           the
           Inconveniences
           which
           flow
           from
           these
           ,
           might
           reach
           unto
           themselves
           ,
           they
           willingly
           engaged
           in
           this
           war
           :
           but
           now
           [
           contrary
           unto
           their
           Hope
           ]
           finding
           the
           successes
           of
           their
           Armes
           ,
           to
           have
           beene
           the
           fruitfull
           parents
           ,
           of
           infinitely
           more
           corruptions
           ,
           in
           church
           and
           common
           wealth
           ,
           and
           that
           the
           intentions
           of
           these
           Reformers
           ,
           (
           what
           ever
           they
           pretended
           )
           never
           aymed
           at
           or
           were
           directed
           unto
           these
           good
           ends
           ,
           but
           at
           the
           subversion
           of
           Monarchy
           ,
           and
           placing
           a
           supreame
           power
           in
           themselves
           ,
           and
           the
           driving
           on
           of
           particular
           ends
           and
           interests
           of
           their
           own
           ;
           and
           an
           Arbitrary
           Government
           ;
           to
           support
           which
           ,
           as
           they
           tollerate
           all
           Religions
           ,
           and
           even
           the
           most
           damnable
           Here●●es
           ;
           So
           they
           do
           all
           illegall
           practises
           ;
           and
           the
           most
           unwarrantable
           ,
           and
           violent
           actions
           of
           those
           who
           adhere
           unto
           them
           .
        
         
           These
           things
           visible
           (
           unto
           all
           who
           have
           eyes
           )
           appearing
           unto
           
           the
           Scots
           ,
           they
           do
           now
           ,
           [
           not
           without
           just
           resentment
           ]
           reflect
           upon
           themselves
           ,
           and
           are
           resolved
           no
           more
           to
           partake
           with
           these
           men
           ,
           in
           their
           sins
           ,
           but
           to
           do
           their
           first
           workes
           ,
           returne
           unto
           their
           first
           love
           ,
           and
           as
           [
           the
           Tribe
           of
           Judah
           did
           by
           King
           
             David
             ,
          
           ]
           being
           bone
           of
           his
           bone
           ,
           and
           flesh
           of
           his
           flesh
           ,
           they
           will
           [
           by
           Gods
           assistance
           ]
           industriously
           endeavour
           to
           bring
           their
           natural
           King
           unto
           his
           owne
           house
           ;
           and
           that
           with
           honor
           ,
           safety
           ,
           and
           freedome
           ;
           maugre
           the
           opposers
           .
        
         
           Nor
           will
           his
           Majesty
           be
           ever
           pressed
           by
           them
           to
           take
           the
           Covenant
           ,
           having
           so
           often
           protested
           his
           aversenesse
           thereunto
           ,
           there
           being
           more
           reason
           herein
           [
           what
           they
           upraid
           the
           Commissioners
           with
           ,
           ]
           
             
               P.
            
             36
          
           
             to
             take
             the
             measure
             of
             their
             desires
             ,
             from
             what
             may
             please
             the
             King
             ;
          
           then
           what
           they
           (
           with
           
             Ieroboam
          
           )
           doe
           ,
           to
           establish
           their
           owne
           throne
           ,
           and
           new
           erected
           dominion
           ,
           to
           set
           up
           so
           many
           Calves
           and
           Idolls
           ,
           such
           multitudes
           of
           reidiculous
           teachers
           ,
           and
           abominable
           Sects
           ,
           and
           Heresies
           :
           For
           what
           else
           is
           it
           to
           conive
           at
           and
           tollerate
           them
           ,
           yea
           to
           countenance
           them
           :
           yet
           this
           sect
           [
           forsooth
           ]
           must
           
             be
             convinced
             by
             the
             word
             of
             God
             ,
          
           
             
               P.
            
             50
          
           
             with
             Gentlenesse
             ,
             and
             Reason
             ,
             and
             not
             beaten
             out
             of
             it
             by
             force
             :
          
           Thus
           must
           Anabaptists
           be
           dealt
           withall
           ,
           yea
           pleaded
           for
           also
           ,
           and
           supplyed
           with
           a
           better
           argument
           then
           ever
           they
           could
           find
           for
           themselves
           ,
           That
           
             It
             is
             onely
             a
             difference
             in
             the
             circumstance
             of
             time
             ,
             in
             the
             Administration
             of
             an
             Ordinance
          
           It
           is
           admirable
           that
           Moses
           could
           not
           hit
           upon
           this
           distinction
           ,
           unto
           the
           Angell
           who
           was
           ready
           to
           kill
           him
           for
           his
           deferring
           the
           circumcision
           of
           his
           sonne
           Eleazar
           equipollent
           unto
           baptisme
           .
           Independents
           ,
           also
           under
           which
           Notion
           ,
           Antinomians
           ,
           Libertines
           ,
           Brownists
           ,
           Seperatists
           ,
           
             
               P.
            
             53
          
           Arminians
           ,
           Familists
           ,
           Erastians
           ;
           Seekers
           ,
           Shakers
           )
           all
           the
           rable
           of
           Heretikes
           shelter
           themselves
           ,
           
             must
             have
             indulgence
             granted
             unto
             them
             ,
          
           yea
           ,
           and
           the
           chiefe
           places
           ,
           of
           Honor
           ,
           trust
           ,
           and
           profit
           ,
           in
           Church
           and
           common
           wealthe
           ,
           conferred
           upon
           them
           ;
           [
           how
           ever
           we
           are
           borne
           in
           hand
           with
           the
           settlement
           of
           the
           Presbyteriall
           Government
           ,
           
             
               P.
            
             38
          
           ]
           and
           yet
           because
           
             the
             Comissioners
             would
             have
             the
             King
             complyed
             with
             
             and
             the
             conviction
             of
             his
             Iudgement
             ,
             and
             satisfaction
             ,
             expected
             :
             This
             must
             be
             in
             them
             a
             Coznage
             :
          
           Nor
           will
           such
           as
           have
           adhered
           unto
           his
           Majesty
           in
           the
           late
           Warre
           ,
           be
           [
           through
           the
           Scots
           procurement
           ,
           ]
           pressed
           unto
           the
           Covenant
           ,
           which
           hath
           bin
           truely
           made
           an
           Hooke
           only
           to
           draw
           the
           Kings
           partie
           into
           danger
           .
        
         
           A
           meere
           Cobweb
           to
           catch
           flyes
           in
           ,
           the
           weakned
           Kings
           partie
           ,
           whilst
           the
           stronger
           Reptilia
           (
           bred
           in
           their
           owne
           intralls
           )
           can
           breake
           through
           it
           when
           they
           list
           :
           Surely
           an
           equall
           respect
           is
           due
           (
           nay
           a
           farre
           greater
           )
           unto
           those
           of
           the
           Kings
           Judgement
           ,
           for
           the
           antiquity
           of
           their
           Reformation
           ,
           and
           uniformity
           ,
           then
           unto
           your
           Independents
           ,
           and
           Sectaries
           ,
           so
           that
           (
           what
           you
           will
           not
           extend
           ,
           )
           
             
               P.
            
             45
          
           
             Indulgence
             ,
             to
             tollerate
             unto
             them
             ,
             the
             use
             of
             the
             Common
             Prayer
             ,
          
           will
           bee
           left
           unto
           his
           Majesty
           to
           give
           unto
           them
           :
           It
           being
           much
           more
           (
           in
           the
           apprehension
           of
           the
           Scots
           )
           tollerable
           ,
           that
           Prelacy
           ▪
           (
           some
           excercise
           of
           which
           Government
           ,
           they
           have
           seene
           in
           other
           Kingdomes
           embraceing
           the
           Reformation
           )
           should
           be
           restored
           ,
           then
           instead
           thereof
           such
           thick
           weeds
           of
           Heresies
           as
           now
           daiely
           spring
           up
           in
           the
           Church
           ,
           and
           are
           ready
           to
           choak
           the
           seed
           of
           Gods
           word
           ▪
           be
           permitted
           a
           full
           growth
           .
           And
           herein
           they
           say
           much
           lesse
           ,
           then
           that
           great
           Patron
           of
           Independencie
           Mr.
           
             Iohn
             Goodwin
             ,
          
           the
           Bellweather
           of
           that
           Flock
           doth
           ,
           
           
             
               P.
            
             26
          
           who
           tells
           us
           ,
           
             That
             there
             was
             more
             of
             the
             power
             ,
             and
             truth
             of
             Religion
             in
          
           England
           ,
           
             under
             the
             late
             Prelaticall
             Government
             ,
             then
             in
             all
             the
             reformed
             Churches
             besides
          
           which
           (
           they
           say
           not
           in
           others
           )
           in
           this
           Church
           is
           most
           true
           :
           But
           this
           Parliament
           likes
           not
           ,
           (
           as
           not
           likely
           to
           Thrive
           by
           it
           )
           uniformity
           in
           Religion
           ,
           being
           certainely
           (
           for
           the
           greater
           part
           of
           them
           ,
           )
           of
           Kinne
           unto
           that
           English
           man
           ,
           our
           Countrey
           man
           
             Barkely
          
           speaks
           of
           ,
           who
           seperating
           from
           his
           Neigbours
           ,
           first
           placed
           the
           true
           Church
           in
           his
           owne
           family
           ,
           
           and
           having
           severall
           Sonnes
           ,
           these
           afterwards
           being
           different
           in
           Judgement
           ,
           there
           became
           at
           length
           ,
           so
           many
           Churches
           and
           Religions
           ,
           as
           there
           were
           persons
           in
           the
           House
           ,
           from
           which
           many
           of
           the
           Grandees
           at
           
             Westminster
             ,
          
           are
           probably
           
           extracted
           .
           And
           as
           unto
           that
           grand
           exception
           taken
           against
           the
           Commissioners
           ,
           for
           propounding
           that
           an
           act
           of
           oblivion
           ,
           
             without
             any
             caution
             or
             limitation
             ,
             should
             be
             passed
             in
             both
             Kingdomes
             ,
             whereby
             Delinquents
             shall
             be
             set
             upon
             an
             even
             flowre
             ,
          
           
             
               p.
            
             33
          
           
             with
             those
             that
             have
             engaged
             against
             them
             in
             that
             Cause
             :
          
           The
           Scots
           conceive
           themselves
           obliged
           in
           the
           strictest
           points
           of
           honour
           ,
           to
           advance
           what
           they
           possibly
           may
           ,
           the
           good
           of
           those
           high
           Noble
           and
           Loyall
           spirits
           ,
           which
           no
           obliquity
           of
           worldly
           respect
           ,
           no
           distortion
           of
           danger
           or
           weight
           of
           suffrings
           ,
           hath
           beene
           able
           to
           divorce
           from
           his
           Majesties
           service
           :
           And
           as
           they
           acknowledge
           it
           their
           great
           unhappinesse
           ,
           that
           they
           have
           not
           had
           the
           Honour
           to
           be
           sharers
           with
           them
           hitherto
           in
           this
           Glory
           ;
           So
           now
           it
           is
           their
           ambition
           ,
           to
           have
           part
           and
           fellowship
           with
           them
           in
           this
           most
           noble
           worke
           ,
           and
           just
           undertaking
           ,
           of
           re-establishing
           his
           Sacred
           Majestie
           into
           his
           unquestionable
           Rights
           ;
           In
           pursuance
           whereof
           ,
           (
           what
           the
           Parliament
           object
           unto
           the
           Scots
           Commissioners
           ,
           
             that
             through
             all
             these
             and
             many
             former
             Papers
             they
             plead
             the
             Cause
             of
             the
             King
             and
             his
             Partie
          
           )
           They
           will
           hence
           forward
           ,
           
             
               p.
            
             34
          
           urge
           that
           Cause
           with
           the
           most
           powerfull
           and
           now
           onely
           Arguments
           ,
           the
           Parliament
           of
           
             England
          
           can
           yeild
           unto
           ,
           gnash
           they
           never
           so
           much
           with
           their
           teeth
           ;
           
             Such
             favorites
             are
             Delinquents
             now
             growne
             with
             them
             ,
          
           
             
               p.
            
             35
          
           as
           by
           their
           Reception
           at
           
             Edenburgh
          
           they
           may
           guesse
           .
        
         
           Nor
           can
           lesse
           be
           expected
           from
           the
           Scots
           ,
           as
           on
           whom
           the
           Parliament
           of
           
             England
             ,
          
           hath
           so
           notoriously
           imposed
           ,
           as
           to
           have
           his
           Majestie
           left
           unto
           them
           ,
           by
           them
           ,
           upon
           such
           tearmes
           and
           assurances
           of
           high
           regard
           unto
           his
           Majesties
           Person
           and
           Royall
           Rights
           :
           The
           contrary
           whereof
           ,
           in
           every
           point
           they
           have
           unto
           their
           eternall
           infamy
           )
           performed
           ;
           
             
               p.
            
             41
          
           
             which
             assurances
          
           though
           they
           evade
           and
           deny
           them
           ,
           shall
           be
           justified
           unto
           the
           world
           ,
           by
           the
           publication
           of
           the
           transactions
           ,
           betweene
           the
           Commissioners
           of
           both
           Nations
           at
           
             New-castle
             ,
          
           and
           also
           by
           the
           Overtures
           ever
           sithence
           :
           His
           Majesties
           Person
           and
           Royall
           Rights
           ,
           being
           of
           equall
           concernment
           unto
           the
           Scots
           with
           the
           English
           ,
           although
           the
           Parliament
           of
           
             England
          
           call
           these
           [
           exclusively
           ]
           
             their
             owne
             rights
             —
             for
             which
             they
             hold
             it
             not
             fit
             to
             capitulate
             :
          
           
             
               p.
            
             41
          
           And
           for
           this
           abuse
           of
           brotherly
           
           confidence
           in
           the
           Houses
           ,
           the
           Scots
           doubt
           not
           ,
           in
           Gods
           mercy
           to
           bring
           them
           unto
           such
           an
           account
           ,
           as
           shall
           leave
           the
           whole
           reckoning
           of
           His
           Majesties
           unparalel'd
           sufferings
           upon
           themselves
           ,
           who
           now
           seeme
           to
           have
           no
           way
           of
           Iustification
           left
           ,
           but
           by
           further
           progresse
           in
           crimes
           :
           So
           that
           it
           is
           not
           to
           be
           marveiled
           at
           ,
           they
           seeme
           so
           much
           to
           undervalue
           His
           Majesties
           Regall
           Power
           ,
           of
           conferring
           titles
           of
           Honour
           ,
           and
           labour
           to
           render
           the
           Scots
           ridiculous
           ,
           for
           that
           
             they
             are
             so
             extreame
             thirsty
             ,
          
           
             
               p.
            
             75
          
           
             to
             drinke
             of
             the
             Fountaine
             of
             Honour
             ,
             so
             they
             stile
             the
             King
             ,
          
           say
           they
           ,
           because
           indeed
           the
           Parliament
           of
           
             England
          
           (
           as
           to
           the
           over-ruling
           partie
           thereof
           ,
           many
           being
           led
           aside
           by
           their
           fraud
           ,
           and
           violence
           )
           have
           left
           off
           to
           be
           honest
           ,
           Honour
           being
           but
           the
           proper
           seat
           ,
           and
           stall
           of
           honestie
           :
           Neither
           can
           it
           be
           presumed
           that
           they
           desire
           to
           taste
           of
           this
           fountaine
           ,
           when
           they
           make
           it
           their
           worke
           ,
           to
           damme
           and
           fill
           it
           up
           with
           the
           rubbish
           of
           their
           new
           Government
           ,
           and
           yet
           unshapen
           Tyranny
           ,
           wholy
           trampling
           under
           their
           feet
           ,
           all
           the
           Divine
           and
           Glorious
           prerogatives
           ,
           and
           Royall
           Priviledges
           of
           Monarchy
           exercised
           in
           all
           ages
           by
           the
           Kings
           of
           
             England
          
           and
           
             Scotland
          
           (
           The
           Sunne
           in
           his
           greatest
           splendor
           ,
           is
           not
           more
           manifest
           then
           this
           )
           By
           their
           endeavour
           to
           take
           away
           His
           Majesties
           Prerogative
           in
           the
           settlement
           of
           Religion
           ,
           His
           Legislative
           power
           ,
           the
           Negative
           voyce
           ,
           the
           Militia
           ,
           the
           disposing
           of
           Offices
           ,
           conferring
           of
           Honours
           ,
           the
           disposing
           of
           his
           Children
           ,
           the
           election
           of
           his
           Servants
           ,
           with
           many
           other
           rights
           that
           append
           unto
           these
           ;
           In
           which
           transcendent
           usurpations
           upon
           their
           owne
           borne
           King
           ,
           should
           the
           Scots
           concurre
           ,
           they
           should
           most
           justly
           render
           themselves
           the
           shame
           of
           all
           Nations
           ,
           and
           the
           off-scouring
           of
           the
           world
           :
           The
           perfidie
           of
           the
           leading
           partie
           in
           the
           present
           Parliament
           ,
           hath
           already
           given
           too
           great
           a
           staine
           unto
           their
           Honour
           (
           by
           their
           dealing
           with
           His
           Majestie
           )
           which
           they
           will
           sooner
           wash
           off
           with
           prodigall
           streames
           of
           the
           dearest
           and
           best
           blood
           of
           
             Scotland
             ,
          
           then
           they
           will
           suffer
           to
           remaine
           or
           rest
           longer
           upon
           them
           ;
           And
           whereas
           they
           lay
           an
           heavy
           load
           upon
           the
           Commissioners
           of
           
             unthankfulnesse
             unto
             their
             Armie
             ,
             who
             shewed
             such
             tender
             fellow-f●●ling
             of
             their
             sufferings
             and
             their
             true-heartednesse
             towards
             them
             ▪
          
           
             
               p.
               
            
             88
             89
          
           The
           Armie
           might
           well
           pay
           them
           with
           words
           ,
           for
           thy
           
           many
           blowes
           they
           received
           ,
           and
           with
           which
           they
           discharged
           their
           scores
           in
           
             Scotland
             ,
          
           and
           saved
           their
           heads
           (
           with
           the
           losse
           of
           many
           thausand
           of
           their
           owne
           lives
           )
           in
           
             England
             ;
          
           They
           no
           wayes
           being
           able
           to
           have
           matched
           ,
           much
           lesse
           to
           have
           mastred
           His
           Majesties
           party
           without
           their
           conjuncture
           ;
           No
           English
           man
           all
           this
           while
           loosing
           one
           drop
           of
           blood
           for
           the
           Cause
           in
           
             Scotland
             ;
          
           and
           as
           the
           Scots
           have
           very
           dearely
           earned
           their
           whole
           pay
           (
           had
           it
           beene
           more
           ,
           and
           more
           truly
           paid
           )
           with
           the
           vast
           expence
           of
           their
           blood
           ,
           the
           impoverishment
           of
           their
           County
           ,
           and
           a
           bloody
           engagement
           against
           their
           owne
           bowells
           ,
           so
           hath
           it
           cost
           them
           most
           ,
           by
           incurring
           the
           forrain
           censure
           of
           disloyalty
           ;
           Into
           which
           the
           Hypocrisie
           ,
           and
           Avarice
           of
           the
           Parliament
           of
           
             England
          
           principally
           led
           them
           ,
           and
           to
           discharge
           themselves
           of
           this
           burthen
           ,
           now
           become
           intollerable
           ,
           and
           to
           shew
           unto
           the
           world
           ,
           that
           the
           present
           practises
           of
           the
           Parliament
           of
           
             England
          
           were
           not
           the
           motives
           of
           their
           advance
           into
           the
           Kingdome
           ;
           they
           resolve
           (
           with
           Gods
           leave
           )
           to
           manifest
           the
           contrary
           ,
           and
           speedily
           to
           come
           nearer
           unto
           them
           ,
           to
           debateface
           to
           face
           the
           Royall
           Rights
           of
           His
           Majesty
           ,
           
             
               p.
            
             76
             80
          
           and
           their
           joynt
           interests
           
             so
             eluded
             by
             them
             ,
          
           with
           such
           demonstrations
           (
           as
           by
           Gods
           helpe
           )
           will
           be
           of
           force
           manifestly
           to
           prove
           by
           their
           power
           ,
           what
           by
           their
           Commissioners
           they
           have
           propounded
           in
           their
           Papers
           .
        
         
           Reader
           ,
           take
           this
           for
           the
           first
           light
           skirmish
           of
           a
           reply
           unto
           the
           Declaration
           ,
           untill
           the
           maine
           battell
           of
           more
           manifest
           Demonstrations
           ,
           for
           the
           truth
           of
           what
           is
           here
           set
           forth
           in
           the
           behalfe
           of
           the
           Answer
           of
           the
           Scots
           Commissioners
           ,
           can
           be
           drawne
           up
           and
           rallied
           .
        
         
           FINIS
           .
        
      
    
     
       
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