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A54015) Transcribed from: (Early English Books Online ; image set 36238) Images scanned from microfilm: (Early English books, 1641-1700 ; 2052:08) A modest detection of George Keith's (miscalled) Just vindication of his earnest expostulation published by him as a pretended answer to a late book of mine, entituled, Some brief observations, &c. By E.P. Penington, Edward, 1667-1701. 56, [4] p. printed and sold by T. Sowle, near the Meeting-House in White-Hart-Court in Gracious-Street, and at the Bible in Leaden-Hall Street, near the Market, London : 1696. E.P. = Edward Penington, whose name appears at the foot of p.56. With two final advertisement leaves. A reply to: Keith, George. A just vindication of my earnest expostulation, added to my book, called The Antichrists and Sadduces detected, &c. Reproduction of the original in the Friends House Library, London. Created by converting TCP files to TEI P5 using tcp2tei.xsl, TEI @ Oxford. 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Quakers -- Controversial literature -- Early works to 1800. 2005-09 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2005-11 Apex CoVantage Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2006-01 John Latta Sampled and proofread 2006-01 John Latta Text and markup reviewed and edited 2006-04 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion A Modest DETECTION OF George Keith's ( MISCALLED ) JUST VINDICATION OF HIS Earnest Expostulation : PUBLISHED By him as a pretended Answer to a Late Book of Mine , Entituled , Some Brief Observations , &c. By E. P. Isa . 28. 20. For the Bed is shorter , then that a Man can stretch himself on it : And the Covering narrower , then that he can wrap himself in it . LONDON : Printed and Sold by T. Sowle , near the Meeting-House in White-Hart-Court in Gracious-Street , and at the Bible in Leaden-Hall-Street , near the Market , 1696. A Modest Detection of George Keith 's ( miscalled ) Just Vindication of his Earnest Expostulation , &c. HAD I not by Observation of past Actions known George Keith a little too well , I might have been induced to have Thought , that the extravagancies of Expressions , bitterness of Words , and angry Language , vented against those whom he calls A Gang or Sort of Quakers , were only the product of a suddain angry Fit , which in a more serene Temper he would be ashamed of , But alas ! I find if I had so thought , I had been mistaken in the Man , and consequently my Opinion of him and his malicious Work ; but too true , and that is , that his Spleen is so swelled with the Ill-will he bears us , that a common venting his Passion wont ease him ; but as if not only Intoxicated , but perfectly Drunk therewith , he Vomits out great Floods of Railing Accusations ; and what is worse , still Sucks in more , whereby he is so far from coming to his right Mind ; as that he may be said to be continually inflamed therewith , and thereby hindred from seeing the Deformity of it , and the inconveniencies it subjects him to , whence it is , that instead of being ashamed , he Vindicates what any Sober , Moderate Man ( I am perswaded ) cannot read with Approbation . I confess his Answering ( if his deserve that Name ) my late small . Treatise ; Entituled , Some brief Observations upon George Keith 's Earnest Expostulation , is no surprize upon me : For I did suppose , that he who declines answering an Antagonist more considerable in every respect , to whom he is Debtor for three Books yet unanswered by him ; would fall upon me , if possible to Nip me in the Bud ; which is all of a Piece with his answering Caleb Pusey of Pennsilvania , who living at so great a distance , he might in probability not expect a Reply in hast , not knowing ( 't is like ) that any Body here would take up the Cudgels against him on behalf of C. Pusey . But as I therein consulted not with Flesh and Blood , nor entertained any reasonings in my Mind concerning the Arts , Parts , or Qualifications of the Man , or my own meanness or inabilities for such a Work : So now I must needs say , I do not find his performances in his Reply to mine , so considerable as to render the Piece unanswerable , but rather ( what he is pleased to Term mine ) Trifling Exceptions , therefore I shall now betake my self to it . In my former , I taxed him with fondly imagining that he and he alone amongst the Quakers had monopolized Knowledge , and for Proof thereof produced a Paragraph out of a Book Entituled , A Modest Account , &c. p. 28. viz. If you serve George Keith so , George Keith will leave you , and then ye shall wander about for lack of Knowledge , and shall not find it . Brief Observations , p. 3. This he now tells us , p. 1. is a lying Story , an abominable Falshood . I Answer , He knows whence I had it , I reserred to Book and Page , which is more then he does in some of his Stories , therefore I made it not ; but that it is false , we have only his bare Denial now , and not so much before in his Answer to the said Book : He only says , Antichrists and Sadducees , p. 8. concerning some Relations C. Pusey gives in his Modest Account , Most of which are absolutely False ( and that little that 's true , in any of them , is not fairly nor duly related ) should he not have told us which were , and which were not false ; and how far true , how far false ? However , upon the whole it is but his denial against the others Affirmation ; which , Whether the one would be guilty of Forging a lying Story without any ground , or the other of denying a real Truth to save his Credit ; as not being willing to be thought so presumptuously conceited of his own profound Knowledge , and so undervaluingly slighting of others , must be left to every Reader to judge as he sees occasion ; and in the mean time he must excuse me if I disbelieve him , and tell him in his own Dialect to C. Pusey , he hath brought nothing in disproof of it , but his own forseited Credit . He proceeds , And this , and the like false Accusations , are the best Armour , these my Adversaries have to Fight against me . Which is a gross Abuse and proofless Assertion , and as such I reject it ; the only Reason of my producing it , being as an Instance of his Malice , which is one of my Charges upon him , under which he is uneasie . What I charged upon him , Brief Observations , p. 4. relating to ' his imposing fond Notions and unscriptural Creeds , he will have to be no other then some of the great Fundamentals of the Christian Religion , the denial whereof ( says he ) I have sufficiently proved them guilty of in the Meeting at Turners-Hall , &c. I Answer , He mistakes the Point , I called not those fond Notions , which he falsly accused us at Turners-Hall , with denying ; but I 'le tell him where he may find some that I call so ; viz. in Truth Advanced , from p. 17. to p. 30. likewise p. 115 , 116 , 117. and from p. 124 , to p. 127. besides other places of that Book , what they are he has been already told in part , in a Book lately Published , Entituled Keith against Keith , from p. 39 , to p. 53. and from p. 93 , to p. 100. and so that Labour saved me for the present . Then what I call unscriptural Creeds , I shall now tell him ; viz. Articles of Faith not delivered in Scripture Terms , imposed as a Boundary , Term and Bond of Vnion , which unless a Person confess with his Mouth in the hearing of some of his Fellow-members , he is not to be owned as a Member of the Church , ( see the last of the Ten Articles ) and methinks G. Keith should not call this a false Charge , for the very ten Articles themselves mentioned Exact Narrative , p. 42. are not in Scripture Language ( though whether right or wrong and wherein I wave at present ) and how far they were offered to be imposed is known to some ; and that himself refused to accept of a Confession of Faith drawn up in Scripture Phrase by the Pennsylvanian Friends himself hath acknowledged ; therefore my Charge stands grounded upon a good Bottom . Besides , he 's too hasty to take it for granted , that what he said and alledged at Turners-Hall was sufficient Proof ; I may as well tell him , his so called Proofs were sufficiently disproved by T. Ellwood in his Answer to the Narrative ; and shall have more ground for my so saying , than he for his ; 'till he Reply thereto . In the next Place he labours to palliate the Contradictions I charged upon him , relating to the different Characters ; given both of the Episcopal Clergy and Dissenting Ministers in his former Books , to what he gives them in his Expostulation ; but therein he useth such poor Evasive Shifts , as shew he is hard put to it : He would fain reconcile them , or at least seem so to do ; that 's his Drift , he 's loath to have it thought that George contradicts Keith ; but all his Daubing won't serve , 't is untempered Mortar he useth , that won't stick ; and so the Crack becomes wider than it was before . I urged Quotations out of three of his Books , viz. 1. Help in Time of Need. 2. Way cast up . 3. Presbyterian and Independent Visible Churches , of these he takes Notice only of the first ; saying , For which he citeth some Passages in a Book of mine , called ; Help in Time of Need , Printed above thirty Years ago ; As if I had quoted nothing out of any other Books of his upon this Subject , but withal let him take Notice that 's within these thirty three Years ; consequently they either much changed for the better , or else he much for the worse since . Now though I am at my Liberty , to quote passages out of any Book of his to disprove his following Evasions ; yet that he may see his own weapon turned against himself , in this Point now in Debate I shall confine my self to this one Book , having Proof enough and to spare from thence , to drive him out of his subterfuges . He begins his Matter thus , But none of these Passages prove , that I did judge there were none among them all [ Church of England and Dissenters ] Pious and Learned , for indeed I was never so uncharitable . This Man who will needs Print Books , had need to go to School to learn that from particulars to the Vniversal , the Consequence is not good . Answ . What if he had not said they were universally bad , so as to include every individual ; yet I do affirm his Words extend far beyond Particulars , even to the Generality ; yea to so great a Majority as falls very little short of Universal , as may be seen in Help in Time of Need , p. 36 , 37. Where taxing the Ministers with Preaching up that then ( in 1664. ) which they had preached down three or four Years before ; adds , Which breeds no small Admiration to poor People , as if they had changed their God ; but I know well , generally they have kept their God all along very constantly , among all their Changes , being such ( the Apostle mentions ) GENERALLY , whose God is their Belly , and this Master they have served ; and do serve very faithfully , making every Change answer its desire . Here 's a Charge upon Ministers GENERALLY , which how consistent it is with true PIETY needs no Comment . Again , p. 29. Now Judas fell from his Ministry ( as saith the Scripture ) in selling his Master ; which GENERALLY your Ministers have done , and have they not thereby fallen from their Ministry ; supposing , but not granting ; they had once been true Ministers ; This is general again , as inconsistent with Piety as the other ; but this is not all , see p. 24 , 25. And were not the set Forms of Prayer cryed down also in Scotland , as lifeless barren things ( and the Service Book denied ) and now ye have again licked up that Vomit , and through your Cities Men set up ( MOSTLY also SCANDALOUS in their Conversations ) at such Hours of the Day or Night to read a set Form of Prayer ? And is there any material Difference between this and the Service Book ? And have not your BRETHREN IN ENGLAND , taken it up again ? And when it 's offered to you to read , will ye not also do the like ? There is no Question of it , but MOST of you will , and WORSE also when ye are put to Tryal . Again p. 75. And that whereon there is so much stress laid ; to wit , the calling of the People , or Patrons , is NOT OF GOD , but of Babylon ; for in the State they are in , they will be loath ever to call a good Man unto them ( SUPPOSING HE COULD BE FOUND ) but such who will wink at their Faults , and run with them thereinto . Well to conclude this Point , I shall give one Instance more and that is in p. 35 , 36. viz. And were it not for a livelyhood , and worldly Honour and Respect , would SO MANY betake themselves to such a Work ? And does not your gain from your quarter , which you so punctually Exact ( and they that will not put into your Mouths , ye prepare War against them ) and your removing from one Parish to another , where ye can have a fatter Stipend , manifestly prove ; ye are moved thereto , rather from a Principle of Covetousness , then from any desire of doing good to the Souls of the People ? And how came MANY of you to be Teachers ? Was it not the design of your Fathers and Relations , who saw it a ready way for them to put you in a way of Livelihood ; and sent you to Schools to learn the Calling ; as ever the Shooemaker , or other Tradesman past his Apprentiship , and then becomes free to use the Trade ? The thing is well known , and I speak it with regret ; and have not many of your selves some time a Day intreated the Lord , that he would send a Purge , and put away out of his House such BUYERS and SELLERS ? and now the Lord is come to make the Purge , and who of you can abide the Day of his coming ? The Purge goes so deep , it 's like to scourge you ALL out of Doors ; and e're you be put out , ye will rather hold in who are in , and seek to uphold one another , but ye shall ALL fall together . What saiest thou now Reader , are these Quotations a Description of PIOUS Men , or the contrary ? Do they refer to Particulars only ? Here 's in so many Words , generally , mostly , a doubt whether a good Man be to be found amongst them , and at last all , methinks that should be something a-kin to Vniversal , and truly a little unlike his Expostulation , which begins thus . It may seem strange , how it comes to pass , that while so many Pious and Learned Men are judged to be found in this Nation not only of the Church of England , but among the Dissenters and Nonconformists , &c. Now I am ready to conclude this contradictory to the former , and perhaps some others may do so too ; he would do well to undeceive us if he can . Philosophy is the next point he goes upon , he tells us , What I said of the Philosophy then taught , in the Colledges of that Nation , many Learned and Pious Men in both Nations , will assent to be true , to wit , the Jesuit Philosophy ; for that was it which was then taught , and which I learned almost word by word out of Jesuit Authors . Answ . That Jesuit Philosophy was then and there taught , may be true for ought I know ; I have no reason to contradict him , but the question with me is , Whether no other Philosophy besides Jesuit Philosophy was then and there taught ? The place by me cited maketh no mention of Jesuit Philosophy , or distiction between one sort and another , only in general terms , The Philosophy which is taught them is meer Deceit and Pedantry . But , to drive him out of his hole , I shall produce a passage in another part of the same Book , which manifests what sort of Philosophy he then meant , see p. 30 , 31. viz. Your Fathers , the Primitive Protestants and Reformers , made not Latin , Greek , and Hebrew , and Aristotle's Logick and Philosophy , with other humane Learning , and the passing of so many Years course at the Colledge , and that you call School Divinity , the qualifications of a Minister of Christ . Now upon the whole I query , whether Aristotle was a Jesuit or no ? Since 't was Aristotle's Philosophy it seems , that was taught at the Colledges ; in short , I look upon it little better then a Jesuitical Evasion , which shews he has not quite forgot what he learnt , almost word for word . But , enough of this , he goes on p. 2. And since that time , both that Colledge , and I suppose all other Colledges in both Nations , have changed that sort of Philosophy , out of their dislike to it , as I my self had done before I was a Quaker . Answ . It may be so , for indeed I must confess he tells his Reader p. 76. Which even I came to see , when among them , and many of themselves see it , and confess it to be but Vanity . But what then , it seems their changing of it is but labour in vain , all to no purpose , for he says Ibid , And many among themselves have attempted the Reformation of their so called Philosophy , and squeezed their Brains to find out a new one , but all in vain ; it shall never be found out till they come to the Cross of Christ , and under his Cross , denying their own Wisdom , become Disciples of Christ , &c. The reason he gives is , The invisible things of God , from the Creation , of the World , are clearly seen , being understood by the things that are made , which carry upon them indeed the Characters of infinite Wisdom , Goodness and Power , but are a sealed Book , no less then the Scriptures , to such who are not come to the teachings of him , who made them , and who only can give an Eye to read them with a true Understanding , and to Advantage . And this he testifies from his own Experience and Trial , who ( as he saith ) hath had a Trial and Experience of both the one and the other . Now I would ask him , Are they under these qualifications now ? If so , then my former question is answered , viz. Are ye changed ? For it seems they were otherwise then , or else he falsely accused them : But if they were so then , and not exceedingly changed for the better now , in the abovementioned respects , then is he egregiously changed for the worse . But ( adds he ) what if I should blame the Philosophy , that is now taught in all the Colledges ? Is there no other good Learning , but that called Philosophy ? He has but little Learning that so Argues . Answ . I have little Learning enough , I confess , yet I did not so Argue , for I produced a quotation which includes Colledge Learning generally , and condemns it by the Lump , without this distinction between Philosophy and other Learning , See Brief Observations , p. 5. viz. And I certainly know , that Humane Wisdom or Learning taught in them , is one of the main Bulwarks of Antichrist against the Revelation , and setting up the Kingdom of Christ in the Earth , and because this is arising , and shall rise , down must the other go , and all who seek to uphold it , shall fall therewith , said G. Keith , Help in time of need , p. 76. In farther excuse of himself , he proceeds thus , viz. What I then said against Schools and Vniversities , was against the ill Constitution , and great Abuses in them , at that time ; but not against Schools well and duly Constituted , as neither was Luther , whose Authority I cited against them . Answ . Here he uses slight of Hand , thereby to slip his Neck out of the Collar ; he changeth the Terms from Universities and Colledges of Philosophy , to Schools and Universities , and then in the next Line , goes about to vindicate himself , as not being against Schools , whereas I did not object that against him ( and by the way , I may tell him , neither are the Quakers , for if they were , or had been , they would hardly have given him so large a Sallary , as they did at Philadelphia , for teaching School there ) but against the other , he is positive , without any exception as to constitution , and brings in Luther to back him , See Help in time of need , &c. p. 75 , 76. viz. And away with the Education of your Youth , at Universities and Colledges of Philosophy , so called ; I may say of them , which Luther stuck not to call them in his Day , that they were stews of Antichrist . Next ( adds he ) as to what I said concerning Prelacy , and Lording Bishops ( for so I cautioned it ) in that Book . Neither doth this prove , that I did conclude there could be no Pious Bishops . Answ . It is not here material , whether he did then allow , or yet allows , that some Pious Bishops have been , or yet are , but the Hierarchy it self , he disapproved of , Prelacy in general he disowned , not some particular Bishops only , their Ministry in general , not some particular Ministers only of that Communion , and that it was I then objected . I then shewed , that he called Prelacy , a Limb of Antichrist ; therefore what particular Persons he is now pleased to except , is but exceptions out of a general rule , therefore foreign to the matter . He farther called Prelacy , That filthy thing set up in the Land , which Thousands ( of the Presbyterians ) vowed to God against , and he upbraids them with , Not bearing a suitable testimony against it , according to their very Principles ; and says , We have kept our vow , and ye have shrunk there from , p. 38 , 39. And p. 50. tells them , Oh , ye did run well , who did hinder you ? But ye are become so foolish , who began in the Spirit , to end in the Flesh ; and now when ye got up upon the Walls and Bulwarks of your Enemies buildings , and Levelled it to the Ground , when ye had rooted out Prelacy , and the many Corruptions and Superstitions accompanying the same , and digged down a good part of Babylons up-setting then ye betook your selves to Build , &c. Now hereby the Reader may see that he slips the matter in controversie , from a disowning the whole order of Prelates , as corrupt qua talis , he comes to granting there may be some among them , pious as Men ; perhaps there may have been Pious Popes and Cardinals too , as Men : Doth that infer , that the order and constitution of them is not Antichristian . Well , so much for the Episcopal Church Government . Now see what he says of the Ministers of an inferiour Degree , ordained according thereto , and their worship , p. 47 , 48. part whereof I gave in my Brief Observations , but shall now be more large , which take as follows , viz. And ye ( said G. Keith ) did well , in disowning and departing from such Men , who gave themselves forth to be the Lords Ministers and Servants , but they ran , and he sent them not , and their Covetousness and Ambition , and seeking how to please Men for their own ends , and not his honour , nor any true zeal for him , set them on such a work , to Lord it over the People , which he had forbidden , and it is Abomination to him , together with the many things accompanying them , which they gave forth for his ordinances , good order , decency , and comeliness in the Church , but were the meer Inventions of Men , and Babylons Golden Cup of Fornications , and that ye vomited up , and refused to drink of this Cup , or to admit of such things as his Ordinances , or belonging to his Worship , or as if he allowed it ( whereby your Iniquity is exceeding aggravated before God , and his Indignation and Jealousie burns as Fire against you , for your returning thereto ) and because of the iniquity of such Men , their Pride , Covetousness , Tyranny , and Ambition , his wrath kindled against them , and he poured Contempt and Desolation upon them , &c. Well , for a close of this point , take another quotation , p. 53. viz. Ye denied their Lordships , and took to your selves Masterships , ( both equally forbidden by Christ ) ye would not suffer them to Lord it over you , but ye would Lord it over the People ; yea and did as Tyrannically as ever the Bishops had done ; and ye were offended at the Surplices , and Canonical Coats and Belts of their Clergy , and yet ye were equally Superstitious and Vain in your Black Cloaths and Gowns , with Pasm●●●s and Ribbons upon them , and other superfluity of naughtiness ; and ye were angry at their Revenues being so great , and yet ye stept in also to many of them , ( and some of you had as much by the year as some of them ) and into their Pride , Covetousness , Lightness , Vanity , Ambition , Carelesness concerning the Work of Jesus Christ , and the Salvation of poor People ; whereof ye took up the Charge , and many other Iniquities they were found in , for which the Lord was provoked against them , ye have taken as it were a Succession of , and ye thought the Lord should have winked at you , &c. Here are a parcel of home strokes at both Episcopal and Presbyterian Ministers of his own Nation , and truly at that time I question not but he would have given the like Character of both sorts in this Nation . But how suits this I pray with the before cited Passage in his Expostulation , viz. It may seem strange , how it comes to pass , that while so many Pious and Learned Men are judged to be found in this Nation , not only of the Church of England , but among the Dissenters and Nonconformists , &c. Neither will his saying , For within a few Lines , in that very Page , I did own there were some Bishops in Queen Mary's days , to whom the Lord had regard , according to their Faithfulness to what they saw ; Excuse him , for to what he here alledgeth , he there added , but such who came after saw further into Mistery Babylon — so that herein ye have not only Apostatized from your Fathers , but from what ye were of late your selves . So that it seems he once accounted it Apostacy to submit again to Prelacy ; after having once forsaken it , and seen further , and I suppose at that time would have thought it some degree thereof , to have solicited a Bishops favour against his then Brethren , or to have Appealed to a Prelate in point of Doctrine , though it can now go down very glibly , and why should he blame us for calling him an Apostate , when as it was his own charge against the Presbyterians , and that too not on the score of Errours in Fundamentals , but Matters of Church Government , and Method of Worship , as the above specifies , whilst part of our Charge upon him , is an alteration in Principle and Doctrine . He proceeds thus , By Lording Bishops , it is obvious , what I meant , even the same that is meant , 1 Pet. 5. 3. Being Lords over Gods Heritage . Answ . What he meant by Lording Bishops , is plain , by his joyning it to Prelates , viz. The Hierarchy its self , who , as Bishops have the Title of Lords , and as such sit in Parliament , so that we have no other but such in these three Kingdoms , and that that Title of Lord Bishop hath been disrelished upon the account of its savouring too much of Lording and Lordship by all sorts of Dissenters , be the Men who go under those Titles , Lordly , or Humble , or what they will , he cannot but know ; therefore , this is nothing but a weak come off : Besides the Text he quotes hath respect to Elders in general , who feed the Flock , which comprehends the whole Ministry , without having any particular relation to Bishops only , therefore unduly applied in this place . His Reflection upon G. Whitehead and W. Penn , as more Lordly then ever he found any of the Bishops , either English or Scottish , carries its answer along with it , viz. for by none of them was I ever Excommunicated , but by the former I was Excommunicated . — This quite blunts the edge of his Charge against them , by shewing the ground thereof , viz. Their having been concerned against him , and the motive thereto . viz. his Spleen against them therefore . But his complaint of being Excommunicated appears a false pretence to cover himself . He was justly reprehended and warned to Repentance for his Divisions and Turbulent Behaviour : This he has called a Bull and Excommunication , when he himself hath not spared to send out his furious Bulls of Excommunication and Reproach in Print against others , and by persisting in his Turbulent Unchristian Spirit and Behaviour , he has apparently Excommunicated himself , and is gone out from our Peaceable Christian Society . His Book of Retractations I shall speak something to by and by , so shall wave it here : And as to his Recrimination of the Quakers , in giving hard Names , and passing hard Censures , &c. I answer , When the Quakers desire the help of the National or Dissenting Ministers against G. Keith or any other of their Oponents , it will be time enough then , either to retract or smooth them over , till then I intend not to concern my self about them : Only thus much I shall say to his insinuation of Uncharitableness , I believe ( and that upon good grounds too ) that their Charity to All in general dissenting from them is greater than his . Having done with their Piety , He next takes a touch at their Learning , and says , And that there are Learned Men among them , far beyond any stock of Learning any of the Quakers lay claim to , I suppose they will not gain say . Answ . Why truly I am ready to suppose so too ; but , why then doth he in his Help in time of need , p. 73. bid the People put away this Dead , Lifeless , IGNORANT , Prophane , Scandalous Ministry , and p. 75 , 76. as quoted in my former say . For out of them comes this IGNORANT , Scandalous Ministry , ( which perhaps was as Learned then , as now ) wherein they learn to talk of things they understand not , &c. Is this suitable to the Character he now gives of them ; let him reconcile these Different Epithets , 't is his Work , not mine ; neither is it for him thereupon to insinuate , as if I undervalued their Learning , which I do not , only am willing he should be filled with his own ways , and have enough of his Self-Contradictions thrown upon his back , till ( if possible ) he may be made ashamed of them . To my Query , Hath he ever retracted this ? He replies p. 3. I have both by word and writ , and is designed by me to be in Print very shortly , retracted all the hard censures and names that I have at any time given to any , who have not deserved them . Answ . Is he conscious of having given hard Censures and Names to some who have not deserved them ? If not , his Retractation is but Formal and Hypocritical . But if so , then say I , What he hath done by Word and Writ , I know not ; therefore not of any weight with me , and as to his designed Print , it hath been often threatned , though not yet performed , so he still chargable therewith till that is done ; his Retractations hitherto have been but very slender , as well as general ; therefore every particular hard Censure or Name till particularly Retracted , as publickly as it was formerly fixed , he is as yet accountable for : Moreover , he hath in this very Passage , left himself a large Latitude , whoever he thinks deserved his hard Censures or Names , must lie under them still , whether they do really deserve them or no ; so that by this means , he makes provision for being Judge in his own Cause . In short , when they come out , we shall see them ; and whether he will or no , every Reader will judge as they see meet , and if not effectual , I suppose none of his Opponents will ask his leave what Censure to pass upon them ; nor yet , whether or no they shall expose their Opinions in Print , if thy think convenient . Yet surely , from the above Expression , whereby he lets us understand his purpose of Retracting in Print all undeserved Charges , we may expect to see a Recantation shortly ; I would therefore caution him to take the Clergy-man's Advice ; given him ( as I am informed ) at Turners-Hall , viz. To go through stitch with his Work , and do it in earnest , lest by seeking to skin over the Wound before 't is healed at the bottom , it break out again , and be worse than 't was before . He goes on , But what a base insinuation is it in them , that I would have any of the Pious and Learned of the several Protestant Professions , to become my Journeymen to work under me ? Is there any thing like this in my Expostulation with them ? Answ , I esteem him the Master Workman , who appoints others what Work they shall do ; them the Journeymen , who do as they are appointed , and that the tendency and drift of his Expostulation is of this nature ; I refer to the Book it self , only adding , Though he hath no power of compulsion over any , yet if they don't do as he bids them , they are it seems , with him to lie under the Reflection of coming short of the Papists in Zeal against Anti-christian Errours and Heresies , and consequently hazard the falling under the weight of his high displeasure . And as idle is his pretence , that he hath not desired any of their assistance , whereas the natural tendency of such a Work , could he persuade them to it , would be an easing of him of part of his Load , by taking it upon their own Shoulders , which he knows well enough , therefore doth but prevaricate in pretending the contrary . I now come to his Cavils against the Ten Heads I treated of in my former , indigested Matter , he is pleased to call them , indeed I perceive he cannot well Digest them , they rise in his Stomach , and many a sowr Belch he rifts up , proceeding as I take it from the foulness of his Stomach , and yet he hath only nibled at a bit here , and a bit there , generally omitting those Parts where the stress of my Observations lay , which , how becoming it is a Man of his Learning and Pretensions , to a Novice , Idiot , &c. as he renders me , I leave the Reader to judge . The meanness of my Parts I aknowledge , yet had I as much as he , it would not become me to boast of them ; but , though I do grant my Parts to be vastly inferiour to his , yet withal I must needs say , I should have been ashamed of so much Sophistry as he is guilty of in that one sheet of Paper : For though in scorn he calls me Junior Sophister , ( he would not take it well to be called a Senior Sophister ) yet if the signification thereof be , one who useth deceitful Covers and false Glosses , to make Passages look otherwise than what the real purport and drift of them is , then is he egregiously guilty of Sophistry , in this his miscalled Just Vindication , as ( God permitting ) I shall farther prove upon him before I have done . My First Head was , His representing the Quakers worse than Papists , He saies of me , On this Head he is guilty of Gross Vntruth , and Falshood in two Particulars , The one it seems is , That he doth not charge the Quakers Indefinitely , or Vniversally , but a Sort and Gang of them . And then adds , If he be such an Ideot , to make no distinction between a part , and the whole , how is he fit to Print Books . Answ . If I would now lye upon the catch , I might put him to prove , that my Words were of that extent , as to bear that Construction he puts upon them , of Vniversally or Indefinitely , and likewise ask him , whether he meant Vniversally and Indefinitely , or only a Sort and Gang of them , when in his Presbyterian and Independent Visible Churches , p. 145. ( as quoted in my former ) he saies , ALL these [ EPISCOPAL , PRESBYTERIAN , INDEPENDENT and BAPTISTS ] as well as others , are open and declared Enemies to the holy Spirit , &c. I might likewise tell him , though he know it well enough already , that in wriing or speaking , 't is no Lye to entitle the whole , to what the Majority does or saies . But I shall go farther , and require him to prove , that any Meeting or Body of People , who go under the name of Quakers , those only excepted , who are gone off , as he , into a separation , do not own G. Whitehead and W. Penn in those Doctrinal points he urged , and wherein he miserably misrepresented them at Turners-Hall , the 11th of the 4th Month last , or else in this particular , I return his grossly abusive charge above-mentioned upon himself . I remember his Friend Tho. Crisp , in his Essay , guessing at the number of Quakers in these three Kingdoms , supposes them to be 100000 , whereof he reckons 80000 to be influenced by W. Penn. Now I would desire G. Keith to Inform me in his next , how many of the remaining 20000 who profess themselves Quakers , own him , and then , I suppose , his company will look more like a Gang , than the other ; for by T. Crisp's own concession ( if he say true ) those Influenced by W. Penn may pass for the main Body . I will next examine his second particular , and see whether they be not both of a piece , which is 2. That he makes me represent them , I so charge , absolutely worse then Papists , when as I cautioned my words thus — Vile Errors , not only as bad as any Popery , but much worse then the worst of Popery , in divers respects . Observe in divers respects : I said not absolutely , and in all respects , but in divers respects . Answ . Very well , I 'le allow him his full Scope , he did not say absolutely in all respects , neither did I mention all matters in respect of which the Papists differ from the Quakers , but saies he , in divers respects , so I quoted him , What wrong have I done him ? Wherein am I guilty of the gross Vntruth and Falshood , he charges upon me ? For my part , I can see none . This , he tells us , he can easily prove , and in proof thereof , goes about to answer one of my Queries , viz. Do we promote Errours worse , then worshipping a piece of Bread , as God ? He replies , I say that 's a Transition from the Subject of the Controversie betwixt them and me , to another forreign Subject , viz. Transubstantiation . Answ . He chargeth this Gang of Quakers ( as he calls them ) with promoting Errours , not only as bad as any Popery , but much worse then the worst of Popery in divers respects . Now I am ready to think , that most Protestants will agree with me , that Transubstantiation , Adoration of Images , Praying to Saints and Angels , meritorious Works , and Purgatory , are not only Popery ( that is Principles wherein Protestants dissent from Papists ) but some of the worst of Popery : Now my Queries were , Do we promote Errours worse than &c. mentioning all these former Heads at large , denying his charge as not yet proved : Therefore wherein he can prove this a Transition , and Transubstantiation , another foreign Subject , unless he will be so kind to the Papist's darling Sacrament , as not to Rank it amongst the worst of Popery , or indeed allow it to be any Popery at all , I see not . He proceeds , It seems this bold Novice has not learned the Maxim , Words are to be understood according to the Subject matter : If I say this is not one of these respects , wherein I have charged them , this Junior Sophister is at a Nonplus . Answ . Hold a little George , not so fast , If Transubstantiation say I , be any part of the worst of Popery , then thou must shew in what respects the Quakers hold Errours , not only as bad , but much worse than it , and this I take to be according to the Subject matter , call me what thou pleasest . In short , G. Keith saith , Our Principles are much worse than the worst of Popery , in divers respects , and he is offended with me , for taking him at his Word ( who so seldom holds to it ) and reciting the worst of the Papists Principles , as if foreign from the matter . Surely Transubstantiation is none of the best : If he thinks 't is , let him apply himself in the next place to them , and see if they will trust him , and be at his beck , as he would have the Pious and Learned among the Protestants be : Well , in further Vindication of his aforesaid Affertion , he refers to his Narrative , telling us , He has clearly proved , that G. Whitehead has destroyed the true Object of the Christian Faith and Worship , &c. All which are so far from being clearly proved by him ; that his pretended Proofs , are clearly disproved by T. Ellwood , in his answer thereto , which , unless he had replied to , he might be ashamed to entitle the matters contained in his Narrative , by so wrong a name . Yet upon the Foot of the aforesaid lame Objections , he utters many foul Reproaches against us , not worth the notice , and what is worse , I am satisfied , writes what he knows to be false , in his Vilifying the Light the Quakers Preach , and direct People to , as if that led them to Vilifie and Reproach the Man Christ Jesus without them . Therefore his Insinuation that the Quakers Worship the Devil within , thereby to prove them worse than the Papists , who , he grants , Worship a piece of Bread without , is wholly Proofless , Groundless , envious in the highest degree , and such a Slander as he might well be ashamed to Impose upon the World. But to what a degree of hardness must this Man be come , who can tax us , with adoring a false Christ within , and setting up a false Notion of Light within , upon no other Foundation , but Misconstruction and Wresting of Sentences , pickt out of Books , whereon he erects his Fabrick of Slanders and false Accusations of his own Inventing , not without knowledge , but contrary to his own certain knowledge . He says , He is sorry we give him this Occasion to detect us ; Alas ! Poor Man , he discovers himself , and hurts not us , the more he takes such Work in hand , he does but encrease his Burthen , whilst we being safe in the Sanctuary of our own Innocency , can appeal to the Searcher of all Hearts , concerning the Falshood of his Malicious Charges , and commit our Cause to Him , who in due time , will ease us of this troublesom Detractor , as he hath already of many of his Predecessors . He slips over the rest of my Queries , saving that about Merits , and to that he says , I am sure most Papists are more sound then some of them . Answ . That 's more than he can be sure of , Is he acquainted with most Papists ? Yet however it comes to pass , he is a little more modest than usual , than some of them , says he , But let us hear wherein some of them are less sound in this particular , than most Papists , viz. Whereas Papists generally profess highly to value Christs Merits , and own their first Justification to the Merits of Christ's Obedience and Righteousness without them : W. Penn hath called this Doctrine , A Doctrine of Devils , and an Arm of the Sea of Corruption , deluging the whole World. Answ . His Charge against W. Penn , I did intend to have passed over , as defective , because he mentions neither Page nor Book ( a way of Managing Controversie , unbecoming a Schollar ) neither for some time , did I know where to find the Passage he carps at , but having at length received Information , where I might meet with it , accordingly I had recourse to the Book , from whence he produceth it , and there find that G. Keith hath much abused , and misrepresented W. Penn : For whereas he states the Case , as if Christ's Merits , and the owning Men's first Justification to the Merit of Christ's Obedience and Righteousness without them , was , by W. Penn , called , A Doctrine of Devils , and an Arm of the Sea of Corruption , deluging the whole World. He therein mistates the Case , for the Doctrine which he so called , was the attributing Justification wholly to the Works wrought by Christ without us , so as thereby to exclude the works wrought by the Spirit in us , from having any share therein , as plainly appears from the place referred to ( though not named ) by G. Keith , viz. A Serious Apology , p. 148. Wherein W. Penn reciting an Objection of one Tho. Jenner , viz. That we deny Justification by the Righteousness which Christ hath fulfilled in his own Person for us ( WHOLLY without us ) and therefore deny the Lord that bought us . He Answers , And indeed this we deny , &c. Now mark , the stress of his denial , lies upon his Antagonist's Word [ WHOLLY ] whereupon W. Penn argues thus , No Man can be Justified without Faith ( says Jenner . ) No Man hath Faith without Works ( any more than a Body without a Spirit ( says James . ) Therefore the Works of Righteousness , by the Spirit of Christ Jesus , are necessary to Justification . Observe , he doth not say the Works of the Spirit are only necessary , thereby excluding the Righteousness which Christ fulfilled in his own Person without us , but joins them together ; the Works wrought without us , and the Works wrought within us ; and calls that Doctrine which would divide them , and Attribute all wholly to the outward ; A Doctrine of Devils , which to manifest the more clearly , and thereby the more fully to detect G. Keith's Injustice and Falshood : I shall give the Reader another Quotation out of the very next Page of the same Book , where explaining our Faith concerning the Father , Son and Holy Spirit , in that part relating to the Son ; he saith , Who took upon him Flesh , and was in the World , and in Life , Doctrine , Miracles , Death , Resurrection , Ascension , and Mediation , perfectly did , and does continue to do the Will of God ; to whose Holy Life , Power Mediation and Blood , we only ascribe our Sanctification , JUSTIFICATION , Redemption and perfect Salvation . But besides G. Keith his abusing and misrepresenting W. Penn in the above-mentioned Passage , I have another Remark to make upon him , and that is , That the very same Doctrine which W. Penn in his aforenamed Serious Apology , called a Doctrine of Devils in T. Jenner : G. Keith in his Postscript to the Nature of Christianity calls corrupt Doctrine in R. Gordon , see p. 70. of the said Book , The Title of that Part is , Some of Robert Gordon 's corrupt Doctrines , and p. 71. the eighth Head is , That Redemption , Justification were finished and compleated in the Crucified Body in Christ for us , not in our Persons . And the twelfth Head , viz. That Redemption , &c. and all things are wrought , purchased , &c. for us , without the help of any thing to be wrought in us . Now if these are corrupt Doctrines with G. Keith now , which were so it seems with him , in 1671. the Time of the Date of that Book , is he not insincere in a high Degree in quarrelling with W. Penn for opposing the very same Doctrine in the very same Year ( his Serious Apology being likewise Printed in 1671. ) And on the other Hand , if these Doctrines be not corrupt , according to his Opinion and Judgment at this Time , then doth he give himself the lye in this very Paper of his now before me , p. 4 , and 5. wherein he expresseth himself thus . But whereas they upbraid me again , and again , with contradicting my former Doctrines and Principles , as to Articles of Faith , I cannot find that they have proved it against me in one Particular . Of which more anon . Well to conclude this Matter , I shall tell him yet farther , that I know not of any Quakers ; who do not ascribe Remission of Sins to that one Offering upon the Cross , through Faith in the Name of Jesus Christ , but if I understand any thing of the Quakers Principles , as I think I do ; that is one of them , and to prove that I speak not by Rote , I will produce another Author approved amongst them , viz. my Father Isaac Penington to confirm what I say , as the Reader may see in his Treatise ; Entituled , The Flesh and Blood of Christ &c. p. 16. and of his Works , Part 2. p. 186. It was a spotless Sacrifice of great Value , and Effectual for the Remission of Sins : And I do acknowledge humbly unto the Lord , THE REMISSION OF MY SINS THEREBY , and bless the Lord for it , even for giving up his Son to Death for us all ; and giving all that believe in his Name and Power , to partake of Remission through him . In my Brief Observations , p. 8. I produced a Proof out of A brief Narrative of the second Meeting , &c of his Self-contradiction in then saying , The whole Protestant cause lieth at stake , in the Defence whereof we with all true Protestants , are concerned against the Jesuites and Baptists . And yet in his Expostulation ; We promote vile Errours worse than the worst of Popery . This he shuffles off , saying p. 4. In vain are all his shuffling Aggravations against me , upbraiding me with my being changed in my Opinion , of what these Quakers were ; and a little lower , I own it , they deceived me , they were the Deceivers , and I was the Deceived . Answ . Any intelligent Reader may perceive , it was Principles , and not Persons he vindicated ; the Cause , not Parties he then espoused ; therefore this is only a Sophistical turn , to serve a turn ; and his Pretences to knowing them better , only a false gloss that he may abuse them the worse , and the Cause of their Changing their Opinion of him ; is his changing Sides , and now taking up the Baptists old Arguments against his quondam Friends , which he once assisted them in Baffling , and now wou'd insinuate a mistake in the Men , and not in the Principles , to hold up his Credit of not being changed , whereas the Men are the same , their Principles the same , now he opposes them , as they were when he Vindicated them , and he is the Man that is Changed , Deviated , Apostatized , and therefore an ill Man , which hath been over and over proved upon him , and not disproved by him , any other way , than by a bare denial without Demonstration , and so any farther Proof at present needless . Yet to shew the Reader his former Judgment of our Principles , both as Consonant with Scripture ; and also with those of the first Reformers , so far as theirs agreed with Scripture : I shall add a Quotation out of Help in Time of Need , p. 46. viz. And now ye who accuse us ( in Derision called Quakers by you ) as Apostates , and that we have denied our Fore-fathers Faith ; try your selves , and Paralel your Fathers Principles and Practices with your own , and also with ours ; and ye shall find ye are degenerated from them exceedingly , as we were while with you ; but through the Grace of God are we recovered , and brought to witness the Spirit and Life of the Primitive Protestants and Christians — and ye cannot Instance to us one Particular , wherein we Dissent from them , warranted from the very Letter of the Scripture . The Second Head ( viz. His Reflections upon the Protestant Clergy as more Lukewarm , if they oppose not the Quakers here , than the Popish Clergy at Rome would be in such a case . ) He saith , Hath nothing in it worth noticing but their unjust charging me with Malice , both with respect to them , viz. that Gang of Quakers above mentioned , and with respect to such whom I directed my Expostulation unto . Answ . I wonder he counts any thing at all therein worth noticing , I know he hath a good Opinion of his own Doings , how Malicious soever ; and truly I am ready to think reputes but few Books besides his own , worth much notice ; those wrote against him , none at all : But in Proof of what he calls their unjust charging , &c. He says nothing to the purpose , for after he hath used some circumlocution which I shall take notice of by and by , he slips off by the help of his Sophistry , and to blind the Matter , queries , But how doth he prove that I am Malicious to the Pious and Learned in the Church of England , or among the Dissenters ? They and not he , nor his Gang are a fit Judge of this . Am I Malicious either to the one or the other , to tell them I would not have the Papists out-do them in Zeal for the Christian Faith ? Is it not an evident Argument of my Love to them ? Answ . I had proved how and wherein before , if he had but had the honesty to have took notice of it , but since by the Legerdemain of these Queries , he would cast a Mist before his Readers Eyes ; I shall state the Case anew . He quarrels with the Quakers , Prints Book after Book against them , at length They answer him ; He for a while answers them too , after a sort ; but finding their Arguments begin to pinch him , his false Coverings wherein he wrapt himself , like to be pulled off , he drops that Method , appoints a Meeting at Turners-Hall , Summons some of them thither ; they perceiving his Craft , that 't is only to shift off his Shoulders the Load their Books had laid on , by Evading their Answers in Print , under the notion of a general answer by word of Mouth , refuse to appear , and pursue him in the Press , thereupon he calls out to the Pious and Learned of the Church of England and Dissenters to employ some of their Time and Labour , to refute those vile Errours , boldly ( as he says ) avowed and publickly broached among a Gang and sort of Quakers : What is this this less then calling for their assistance against the Quakers , because he finds himself not sufficient of himself to go through with the Cause he hath undertaken ; and what is the whole from the beginning to the end , but a series of Malice against the Quakers ? The Argument he uses to these Pious and Learned , is this , I am confident if such Anti-christian Errours and Heresies were but the tenth part so avowedly broached in the City of Rome , or any where else in Popish Countries , these esteemed Watchmen among them , would be more alarmed to oppose them by Word and Writing , than most among Protestants do . Is not this a Malicious insinuation , as if Protestants were more Supine , Careless , and less zealous for the true Christian Faith , than Papists : and to what end I pray , but to make them as spightful as himself ? He goes on , Which would seem to cast a Reflection on the Protestant Churches , if some able Men , &c. Now here is not only a calling them out , awaking them as it were out of a Sleep , as if they had been all this while Slumbring , regardless what Errours or Heresies crept in , but that also under the Pain and Penalty , if they did not rouse up , of lying under the weight of his Reflection . Therefore , whether this was an Argument of his Love to them , or the contrary , I dare leave with the Pious and Learned to determine themselves . And now shall resume what I had before skipt to come at this Passage , viz. Their Application of that Place , in Acts 21. 28. against me , is very abusive and shameless ; The Jews cried , Men of Israel help . But against what ? Against Paul , and the worthy Name of Christ which he bore Testimony to . Did I make any such cry , to help against that worthy Name , or any true Professors of it , by my inviting them to oppose the vile Errours that are contrary to it . Answ . This is but a begging the Question , that his Antagonists are not true Professors of the worthy Name of Christ is but gratis dictum , he says it , we deny it , Affirmanti incumbit probatio ; he that affirms must prove ; therein he falls short ; we say there 's no such danger of any opposition to the worthy Name of Christ , by our promoting those Doctrines which he calls vile Errours , and insinuates us guilty of , so that 't is Men of Straw he Fights against . But on the other hand , the Application of this Scripture belongs to him , on this account , Those malicious Jews who opposed the Apostle , accused him of that which he was not guilty of , upon a false surmize , as may be seen in the following Verse , and upon that foul mistake , stirred up the People against him , which how parallel it is with the state of the Case between G. Keith and us is apparently discernable , by an intelligent Reader , who understands the state of the Controversie between us . Nex he endeavours to Evade , but not disprove what I urged , in relation to his endeavours to stir up Persecution against us , but doth it so lamely upon the foot of some idle Excuses in his Expostulation and Narrative ; that , to retaliate him in his own Language , I think it not worth the least regarding . The Third Head , ( viz. He chargable while a Quaker , with what he reflects upon the Quakers for , in relation to Disputes ) he says , So far as it contains a false Reflection on me , I shall not notice . Answ . Neither shall I notice his caling it a false Reflection , any farther than to tell him , 't is but rarely , if ever , that he is brought to acknowledge any thing to be true that is alledged against him . But , adds he , in so far as it tells a most impudent untruth , with respect to the People called Quakers ; I cannot omit it , for , whereas I have said , that many of their chiefest Teachers , have with great boldness , provoked such as differed from them , to publick Disputes . This he denieth to be true . Answ . His charge of an impudent untruth , I retort back upon himself , for his Assertion I neither Affirmed , nor Denied , but left him to prove , as my words themselves will plainly manifest ; see Brief Observations , p. 11. thus , That the Quakers have with great boldness provoked to Publick Disputes , he says indeed , but doth not prove it . Now , pray whose Face has most Brass in it ; mine for so saying , or his for falsly charging me . He goes on , But the colour they would put upon it , is that what they did , was to clear themselves , and to detect the Abuses put on them ; as if they had been only on the Defensive part , in all publick Oppositions they made in Congregations , and elsewhere ; whereas it is abundantly known , they were the first Aggressors , &c. Answ . I won't grant him an Ace , but require Proof of all that he says , and as to his referring to G. Fox's Journal and E. Burroughs's Collected Treatises , they are large Books , and what part of them he quarrels with I know not , therefore let him mention particulars , and then if I think it worth my while , he may perhaps hear farther from me . And since he has not Enervated , but only Shufled off the state of the Case I laid down in my former ; I need say no more at present , then that it was too much truth to be denied , even by G. Keith himself , though I 'le say that for him , he is a Man very expert in that faculty . The Fourth Head ( viz. His itch to have you [ the Pious and Learned ] Dance after his Pipe , viz. Challenge Disputes with the Quakers ) He tells us , contains nothing but repeated Recriminations and Reflections against him , already answered ; except in the latter part of it , &c. Answ . As he says already answered , though I say only Evaded , as the Reader may see , if he please to be at the trouble of comparing the one with the other , yet what part of it he has already taken some small notice of , is already replied to , and so I shall follow him to the latter Part , which he gives thus , They propose it , whether it would not be most equal and reasonable for them , viz. such to whom I have directed my Expostulation , to begin with me , by calling me forth to a publick Hearing upon my former Books . To this I answer , that I am most willing they do , and what I cannot justly and safely defend of any passages in my former Books , I will fairly retract . Answ . A very fair Proposal , so say , and so do , and so far we shall be agreed , but I am afraid , if it were to be put to the Tryal , he would draw back , for I can tell him of one Passage which I quoted in my former , and which for the remarkableness of it , I care not if I quote again , which he must retract in the first place , or else he can never be sincere in retracting the rest , viz. I know not any fundamental Principle , nor indeed any one Principle of the Christian Faith , that I have varied from , ever since I came among the Quakers , which is about Thirty three Years ago , Exact Narrative p. 15. Moreover in this very Sheet , now before me , he says . But whereas they up-braid me again , and again , with contradicting my former Doctrines and Principles , as to Articles of Faith ; I cannot find that they have proved it against me in one particular . To which I answer , If he will shut his Eyes , and will not see , who can help it ? Or if he will be so Partial in his own Cause , as to resolve not to be convinced of it , let what Proof will be offered , 't is his own fault . T. Ellwood whath proved it upon him in three Tracts , and that in more than one particular ; and his not having answered either of them , is sufficient ground to continue the Charge upon him , taking it for granted , that if he could have done it fairly , he would , or if by any Sophistical Art , he could have neatly blinded it , he would not have been wanting in his endeavours . In the next place , in p. 5. He would fain persuade those to whom he directs his Expostulation , that 't is most proper to begin with us first , because , says he , whatever just Offence I have given to any of them , my late Adversaries of that Gang among the Quakers have far exceeded me . Answ . That is but his say so , whereof himself is no competent Judge . And adds he , they have that which casts of Ballance as to them , that they justifie all they have said , and Printed against them to every Tittle , to maintain their Infallibility ; which I have not done , but in divers things I confess my mistakes , and wherein I have justly offended any , I humbly ask their Forgiveness . Answ . Supposing , but not granting what he says to be true , have not those he applies himself to , the more need to begin with him first , that they may take him in the mind while he is in the mind , and bring him from lurking in bare Generals to descend to Particulars , and so try whether he be sincere in his Protestations , by bringing him to a thorow Recantation ; Whereas , if the Case be as he represents it with us , they must expect no such compliance from us , but a steddy adherence to our Assertions , consequently , like to be a more tedious as well as a more difficult Work ; therefore most Prudence to begin with the easiest first , especially having to do with a slippery Chapman , of whom they can have no assurance , that he will long continue in the same Humour , though he were at present , never so much ( seemingly ) resolved , to be as good as his word . And as to the Flout he throws at the Quakers , concerning Infallibility ; I shall add a passage out of Help in time of need , to shew what he formerly Asserted , as to the necessity of People's being led by the Infallible Spirit , see p. 23. Therefore another Head was set up in the Church , then Jesus Christ , and the Pope and his Council was made Judge to determine all Controversies in Religion , and no Man was to look at an Infallible Judge ( the Spirit of Truth within him ) and are ye not become as bad , who openly affirm , that ye are not led by the infallible Spirit , and consequently not by the Spirit of God. My Fifth Head ( viz. His pretended tender Compassion to the Souls of People , highly insincere . ) And my Sixth Head ( viz. The Irregularity of his Proposal of Disturbing our Meetings , contrary to Law ) He joins together as sufficiently answered in his Narrative and Expostulation , so that he sees not the least cause to say any thing unto them . Answ . He has the prettiest faculty of answering Matters beforehand , as a Man shall likely hear of ; he has answered good part of my Book it seems , before its self was in Being ; 't is much he had not answered it all beforehand when his Hand was in , yet here still comes in some buts and onlys that spoil his antecedent Answers , and if it were not for these buts and onlys , he needed have wrote but two or three Words in Answer to the whole Book , and have left it so to the Readers Consideration , as he doth now ; He says , Only I take notice of the bold untruth he chargeth me with , of my proposing the Disturbing of their Meetings . Answ . The untruth is his , not mine , as the Words I then quoted will evince to rational Men , which I shall again Transcribe , viz. Or if they continue to justifie them , to refute them openly in the Face of their own Meetings , and in the Presence of them that do so much admire and follow them : His Reason for promoting this work is , And thus to serve them , as they have served others , and with what Measure they have met to others , the same to meet to them again : Which he tells us a little before was , Some of their Teachers assaulted the National Ministers in the Face of their Congregations . Can any thing be plainer ? Nor will his following excuse acquit him . viz. For I cautioned it exrresly , that what should be done to refute their vile Errours , might be done at the End of their Meetings , or at other set Times . Answ . I think a Meeting cannot be properly said to be ended , unless the People disperse , but rather continued , however confusedly disturbed by such irregular Practices . In the next Place , how will his Proposal of other set Times , hold with the other of meeting to them as they have met to others , whom ( as he says ) they assaulted in the Face of their Congregations , will he say it was not during their Worship , but at other Times ; then say I , not in the Face of their Congregations ; if he say , it was in the Face of their Congregations , than how can he propose the Quakers should have the same Measure met to them , by others doing it to them at set Times ; if he says true , in relation to their assaulting the National Ministers in the Face of their Congregations . This is as Poor , a confused , trifling , sleeveless excuse as can well be urged , 't will not help him off at all . Now to shew what a Man of Order he is , though got to the Sixth Head ( having only named the fifth Head for fashion-sake , medling no farther with it ) he recurs to the Third , yet hath pretended to Answer that before ; but since he hath foisted in this Passage in this Place , I must ( though contrary to Method ) take notice of it here , 't is this . And , seeing they justifie what some of them did , by way of publick Opposition , to clear themselves ; and to detect the Abuses put upon them , and that they allow this to be Equal and Reasonable , and no Trespass against the Civil Peace . Answ . How far did I justifie it , but upon a Point of Necessity ? The Mob were incensed by railing Accusations , several of the Quakers went in danger of their Lives by them , these slanders were vented by the publick Preachers from their Pulpits , the Mob divers times stirred up and encouraged by them : What Room was here left for any other Method ? What Breach of the Civil Peace ? For that was broke before by their Adversaries , a just Detection of whom seemed a likely way to Calm them ; consequently to preserve the Civil Peace . What might be acted at other Times , wherein the above Case was not plain and obvious , I leave , neither Assenting to nor Denying his Charge ; and so neither do I Justifie or Condemn the Actions , unless I knew better then I do the Matters by him objected , but shall go on with him , who says farther . And that many , or rather indeed all of other Professions do judge that the Quakers have misrepresented them , and put Abuses on them ; why should they not think it fair , that those of other Professions , who think themselves injured by them in Point of Doctrine , should have Freedom in Publick to clear themselves . Answ . They have had Freedom , and have endeavoured it too , we look upon our selves abused by them ; we have had Freedom in Publick to clear our selves , and have done it too ; and that in the most publick way in the World , viz. in Print , and that is according to his own Concession , The last Remedy against Oppression , Exact Narrative , p. 38. and indeed a far more proper way than Face to Face by way of publick Opposition ; whether at the Beginning , Middle , or End of Meetings . And the same Liberty hath he too , which he hath not only made use of formerly , but still doth when he pleaseth himself . The Seventh Head ( viz. His endeavours to excite the Civil Authority against us ) he represents as nothing but an unjust Insinuation ; that , says he , I would excite the Civil Authority against them , and that I would fain instruct the Civil Authority , what their Duty is in this Case . But they bringing no Proofs of their Charge against me , it were a superfluous labour in me to Answer them on this Head. Answ . He seems to be very Cautious of bestowing superfluous Labour , but if he had been so in Reality ; he might either have forborn saying any thing at all ; or or else have offered something more to the purpose , for a sufficient Proof I then brought , viz. his own Words quoted out of his Expostulation ; which I shall now repeat and are these . And it would be a commendable and praise worthy thing , for the Civil Authority to encourage such a Practice [ to refute them openly in the Face of their own Meetings , &c. ] throughout the Nation . Now what he can make of this , but exciting the Civil Authority against us , therein to act contrary to an established Act of Parliament , as I observed before , Brief Observations , p. 17. for my Part , I cannot tell , nor yet by what Figure he can call the above no Proof . He proceeds saying , I am very hopeful that as formerly I have had the Countenance of some in Civil Authority , in my publick Opposition to their vile Errours , so I may have the like for the Future . Answ What Countenance he had from some in Authority , I presume proceeded from their want of a right Knowledge of him and us too ; but this I can tell him , had those he summoned answered his Challenge , there are some in Authority would not have countenanced them ; but did disswade them from appearing , and were well pleased with them for taking their Advice . Their Insinuation , adds he , p. 6. That such Encouragement of any in the Civil Authority , would be a breach of an established Act of Parliament , is so silly and ignorant , that it deserves not the least Consideration . Answ . As silly and ignorant as it is , he were not best to try Conclusions , in putting the proposed Method in Practice ; neither I suppose will the Magistrates be in hast to run the venture of it , according to his Solicitations , for ( doubtless ) they know better than either he or I , what the Consequence thereof would be . But what would this vain Man make of the Act of Parliament for Liberty of Conscience , A meer Cypher ? Or not so much , surely he thinks it may be served as Boys serve Nine-Pins , set up to be thrown down again , so this made to be broke . The Eighth Head ( viz. His high Opinion of himself , in setting up for Directer , both of Church and State , in methods to be used for the preservation of the true Protestant Religion ) He calls a bare Fac'd Calumny . Doth ( saith he ) any honest Man , that Proposeth his humble Opinion , what may be good for both the Protestant Religion , and State of the Kingdom , deserve such an unworthy Character ? Answ . No not at all , by no means , but G. Keith's Proposal , is not his humble Opinion only , but a positive direction , how and what they should do , as commendable and praise worthy : He saith not , I propose my humble Opinion that &c. But it would be a commendable and praise worthy thing , &c. thereby implying , that if they do not so , they will neither do commendably nor praise worthily in that Case , but should be dis-commended and dis-praised , as falling short of Papists , in Zeal for the Christian Faith ; and how far this method was like to prove destructive , rather than beneficial ( if practised ) to the true Protestant Religion , I then shewed , but he jumps over , as indeed he doth most of the most material Points through that whole Treatise , from the beginning to the end , so that I may truly say , he hath not answered it , so much as by halves , Snapping at this , and Snarling at the other , but going through little or nothing , as he should , which how meanly it looks in one of his Qualifications , to so pitiful an Antagonist , as he renders me , I need not determine , but shall refer that part to my Reader , to think of it as he sees Cause . As to what he objects concerning G. Fox the Elder , G. Fox the Younger , and E. Burroughs , he is still in nubibus , only a fling and away , keeps in bare generals , comes to no particulars , and therefore not worthy ef notice . In my Ninth Head ( viz. His malice against our Books ) I charged him with , being either grossly insincere in pretending it is far from him , to desire the least Sufferings to come upon our Persons or estates , or else very Ignorant of the Law in such cases ( viz. Matters Blasphemous and Heretical , which he hath alledged our Books contain ) which deeply affects both Persons and Estates , by Imprisonments , Fines and Pillory , &c. To this , saith he , I answer . 1. Were not by the same Argument , they Insincere or Ignorant , who have charged , not only some of their Brethren , but differing from them , in Punctilio's of their Church-Government , and Womens Meetings , as in particular Christopher Taylor , his charging William Rogers with high Blasphemy , in a Printed Book of his , but also in charging with Heresie and Blasphemy , many of the Ministry in the Nation , reputed Orthodox by Civil Authority . Answ . His Reflection upon C. Taylor , will not do him any kindness , for 't is not Paralel with the State of the Case between him and us , For C. Taylor dealt with W. Rogers Controversially only in writing , and by way of a Religious Reproof , and there left it , but did not appeal to the Civil Magistrate against him , no not at all ; he was so far from that , that he directed it to none but Friends , as An Epistle of Caution to them . But on the other Hand , G. Keith proposed to have the Pious and Learned , &c. encouraged by the Civil Power , to question Friends about Blasphemy , Heresie , &c. which would tend to a Judicial and Civil Tryal and Conviction , and so , if his attempts could take effect , bring them under the danger of the Temporal Laws . Again G. Keith says falsly , in assigning the difference between W. Rogers and Friends , to be a difference only in Punctilio's of Church-Government : For had he read the Book , and not resolved to close his Eyes , he might see that W. Rogers finds fault with our Doctrine . Preface , p. 32. and Christian Quaker , Part 1. p. 69. And therefore in his Second Part , treats of Doctrines , wherein he opposed his to ours , in many particulars . Thirdly , If nothing of this kind could be offered , yet is Recrimination of another , no Just Vindication of a Man's self . If C. Taylor had been Culpable , and done amiss , that doth not Justifie G. Keith in doing Evil. And now I think fit to take notice , and that once for all , of his Unmanly dealing ; he , by way of dislike and reproach , mentions in several places of his Vindication , G. Fox , both Elder and Younger , E. Burroughs and C. Taylor , who are all Dead , two of them ( I believe ) before himself went under the name of a Quaker , the other two he esteemed as Brethren , and seemed to be in Unity with , while Living , and yet he must now be digging up their Graves , I would ask him , What hurt they have done him , since they were Dead , that he cannot let them rest now , seeing while Living , he had nothing to say against them ? He goes on to a 2dly , But must not their Vile Errours and Heresies be opposed , and the Authors of them witnessed against , and warning given against them , otherwise all that do so , must they be reckoned Persecutors and Malicious . Answ . If he like the work , let him go on with it , no Body hinders his Printing , nor proposes to hinder it ; Opposition in Meetings by Countenance , or Authority , from the Civil Magistrate was the thing I found fault with . But let me tell him withal , it is not his calling this , that , or the other , Errour and Heresie , that will make it so ; and if he call things by their wrong Names on purpose to render a People odious , that 's Malice and a degree of Persecution proceeding from a Root of bitterness , and if encouraged will not cease 'till it come to Fire and Faggot , Rack and Gibbet . And if what he wrote above thirty Years ago be worthy of Credit , we are not a People deserving such Reflections , fe● Help in Time of Need , p. 68. And we the People of the Lord , whom he hath formed for himself , shall shew forth his Praise ; and the Lord will make it manifest , that we are his ; and that he hath raised us up , and put his Spirit in us ; and that he dwells in and among us , to all the Kindreds and Nations of the Earth ; and they who will not see , shall see ; and be ashamed , and confounded for their Envy at the People whom God hath blessed , and will bless for ever and ever , and no Deceit nor Violence shall prevail against them . Now if he dare believe himself , had he not better desist from his fruitless and envious Work he is carrying on against us , lest himself be confounded . I am now come to his Objections against my Tenth and Last Head , wherein he endeavours to evade the Proofs I brought to Evince , that , The Case between our Books , and his Pennsylvania Books , as stated by him , was far different . To my alledging , ' It was but common Prudence , to hide the Bone of Contention , which he had prepared to throw in amongst us ; lest his quarrelsome Books should infect some with the same Spirit of Discord here , as his quarrelsome Discourses and Behaviour , had infected some there . He Answers , p. 7. thus , 1. Had it not been more honesty in them , as well as Christian Prudence , to have disowned these gross Errours , which I evidently proved against them in Pennsylvania , out of their own Letters and Manuscripts , as well as by other Proofs , then to have hid and cloaked them , and excommunicated me , for my faithful opposing them . Answ . That ever those gross Errours he exclaims against , were evidently proved against those he accuses , I never yet understood from any but himself , who is too much a Party to be esteemed an unbyassed Judge in his own Cause how evident , or how lame the Proofs were ; and upon the same bottom is his Charge laid against those he accuseth of Hiding and Cloaking those Errours he hints at : but that he was Excommunicated ( as he Terms it ) for his faithful opposing them , I deny ; The Words of the Paper by him called The nameless Bull , being my warrant for so doing ; which are , That the said George Keith is gone from the blessed Unity of the peaceable Spirit of our Lord Jesus Christ , and hath thereby separated himself from the Holy Fellowship of the Church of Christ . Whereby it appears , that 't was his Turbulency in the Opposition he made , whereby he manifested himself gone from Unity with , and separated from the Fellowship of the Church , and gone from the peaceable Spirit of Christ ; so not a bare faithful opposing of what he deemed Errours , that drew that Judgment down upon him . For if he had in Calmness and Coolness objected what he esteemed Erroneous , and managed his Cause in a peaceable Temper of Mind ; until he were either Convinced of his Errour in so thinking of them , or by strength of Argument offered in the Spirit of Meekness , he had Convinced them that they really were in Errour ; I presume that Meeting would not have given forth that Paper against him . He proceeds to a 2. But where is the far different Case ? Why they shouid suppress my Books , and the Civil Authority should not suppress theirs Answ . I then told him where , but since he takes no Notice of it , shall tell him again , part of what I then offered . 1. We had Right and Title to such an Authority over him and his Books at that Time , as a Community or Society amongst whom he then pretended Membership ; and yet contrary to the Method now long since practised amongst us , and which himself ( while himself ) had practised as well as others , Published the said Books without the Approbation of those with whom we had Fellowship , with an apparent Design to leaven a Faction for himself . 2. His were bought and paid for , and so became the real Property of the Purchasers , ours he proposes should be suppressed by the Civil Authority without mentioning so much as one word in the least of being paid for by the Seizers , which is an Invasion of Property , and if therein he sees no difference , the reason must be , because he won't ; for the case is plain enough . Again , Why ? My Books would have been a Bone of Contention , to infect some with the same Spirit of discord . Answ . That they have so been , notwithstanding the Precaution used by purchasing all that could be got , by their being Reprinted here by our old Adversaries , and by their gratifying those two Apostates , F. Bugg , and T. Crisp , setting them to Scribling anew , and giving new Life to their old Contentious Work , is so evident , that a Man may as well deny the Sun 's Shining at Noon-day , as deny that . He queries , But must not the Truth be contended for ? Are we not commanded to contend earnestly for the Faith once delivered to the Saints ? And such was the contentions of my Books , and of my Spirit . Answ . This is but a begging the Question , a taking for granted the thing in Debate ; we say as well as he , that our Books contend for the Faith once delivered to the Saints , therefore his contention against us groundless : Who must determine this ? The impartial Christian Reader I think , therefore to him I leave it . He thinks , it seems , he hath the advantage , we the disadvantage , for my part , I can see no ground for such a Supposition , but am contented he should hug himself with the Fancy , if he will not be undeceived ; but let him have a care , lest while he compasses himself about with the Sparks of his own kindling , in the end he do not lie down in Sorrow . The rest of his Reflections on this Head , he spends in flinging contumelious Reproaches on our Books , which being nothing but Recrimination without Demonstation , and in substance answered already , as a weak blast of empty Air , I pass over . He concludes with a Passage he takes a long stride back to pick out of my Sixth Head ; I therein only gave him a gentle touch about the Revolutions , but rubbing on a Sore place , he cannot bear it ; I had perhaps slipt it over now , had he not committed a blunder unbecoming a Man of his Reading . I told him Brief Observations p. 16. It would almost tempt a Man to conclude , if the Doctrine of Revolutions were as probable an Hypothesis , as G. Keith hath represented it to be , that the Soul of Erostratus were come again in this Incendiary . Having relation in that comparison to the Man who set on Fire the Temple of Diana at Ephesus ( which was so rare a piece of Workmanship , as to be reputed one of the wonders of the World ) with intent to perpetuate his name to Posterity by a Wicked Deed , since he could not by Virtuous Actions , whose Name was Erostratus . To this he says , Were I inclined to retort his idle story of Erasistratus against me , &c. Now upon Examination I find that this Erasistratus was a famous Physician of Aristotle's Family , which how he came to overlook , I know not , but believe if I had been guilty of such a Trip , he would have paid me off with the Epithets of Bold Novice , Ideot , Junior Sophister , &c. But now let us see what it is he could retort upon us , says he , I might say these my late Adversaries . who place all upon the inward Principle excluding the Man Christ Jesus from being our Saviour , are the old Stoicks , Epicureans , Pelagian Brittains redivive , and other Ethnick Philosophers , who bitterly opposed the Christian Faith. Answ . I know no Quakers guilty of this Charge ; therefore the Foundation of his Retortion is a Bare-fac'd Calumny , for we place not all upon the inward Principle , but what God hath joyned together , we dare not put asunder ; neither do we exclude the Man Christ Jesus from being our Saviour , but say that the Man Christ Jesus , and the Light within which proceeds from Him , in whom the Fulnessd wells , are one and not divided , and He as outwardly offered up and Ascended into Heaven , where He sits at the Right Hand of the Majesty on High , and as inwardly revealed in the Hearts of his true Believers , is one compleat Saviour : And wherein G. Keith represents us to believe otherwise , he very well knows , he greatly Slanders us , having himself often declared the contrary : Whereof I have given many instances , but shall now add another out of the often already quoted Book , viz. Help in time of Need , p. 78 , 79. And now , whether ye will hear , or forbear ; this I do declare unto you , in the Name and Power , and Authority of the Living God , the Day of the Lord is of a Truth broken forth among us , and ye shall look till your Eyes fail you , and Rot within your Eye holes , e're ever ye see another day , or appearance of Jesus Christ to your comfort , then what we the People of the Lord called Quakers , do witness Come , and yet more abundantly Coming , and if ye will not hear , my Soul shall Mourn for you in secret places , and Weep before the Lord on your behalf . Well , here 's a large Testimony on the Quakers behalf , therefore either he falsely accuseth us now , or else in 1664 he was guilty of transcendent Presumption , in pretending to say as above , in the Name , Power and Authority , of the Living God , if it was not so , but quite otherwise . He concludes thus . But though they have not their Souls , I am sure they have their Heathenish , Anti-christian Principles . Answ . This in substance is answered already , yet because he so often calls us Anti-christs , and our Principles Anti-christian ; I shall not think much of my Pains , to give the Reader an account what he once accounted Anti-christianism , and then leave it to the impartial to judge how far that affects us , Help in time of Need , p 22. This is the Anti-christ , who denies Christ the Son , come thus in the Revelation of himself in the Heart ; for that coming of Christ in his Bodily Appearance at Jerusalem , Anti-christ will not , does not deny it , being he knows it will never harm his Kingdom ; so to confess him come , providing Christs Kingdom be not set up in the Heart . Now , upon the whole , as he said to the Teachers , he directed his Speech to , Ibid. p. 33. Ye could be better employed in holding a Plow , or digging in a Field , or any other honest Occupation , then to be deluding poor People . So say I , he might be better employed in Teaching Scool , or any other honest Occupation , then in thus Villifying and Abusing an honest People , and imposing that upon the World , as truth of which he is sure , when in the mean time he knows otherwise . One thing more ( though not so very Material ) I shall take notice of before we part , and that is , In the management of his Vindication and the Objections he raises against my Brief Observations ; he sometimes uses the words they and their , sometimes he and his as if Synonimous ; truly , if I did not conclude him to be a good Grammarian , I might be ready to query , whether he took these Pronouns to be all of a Number ; but since his Schollarship is not to be questioned at all , much less in so common a Case as the first parts of the Accidence taught School-Boys , it argues confusion in him , and want of circumspection , both in Penning and Revising , and might have been better excused , had he been a Novice , though a bold one , or an Ideot either . I have now gone through his Sheet , and cannot but here observe , to what a pass an ill cause brings a Man , though qualified with Arts , Parts , and Learning . That the heat of Controversie ( the current whereof , I must needs tell him , hath run against him , let him Bolster himself up with what Bull-rushes he pleases ) should instigate him to pour out so virulent a peice as that Expostulation , a plain indication that he is not led by the peaceable Spirit of Christ , but a froward , angry , revengeful Spirit , and when laid open and proved plainly upon him , by Matter of Fact , without stretching or straining Words or Sentences ; Rather then he will fall under Reproof , or seem to be sensible , that in his Passion he had over-shot himself , by lying still under a tacit acquiescing that he had so done ; disdaining , 't is like , that a young Man of so inferiour qualifications should tell him his own ; must Publish something in Defence of a thing not at all Defensible : Which how it is performed , whether he hath not done it very slightly , without answering , or so much as touching some of the most Material Passages I urged against him , and whether this my Rejoinder have not answered the whole substance of his ( so called ) Just Vindication , as it is not so proper for me to determine , so I shall again submit to the Learned , Pious , and Judicious among all sorts of Protestants , into whose Hands these Treatises may happen to light . 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