A narrative of the depositions of Robert Jenison Esq with other material evidences, plainly proving that Mr. William Ireland, lately executed for high treason, was in London the nineteenth of August, 1678, notwithstanding his condfident denial thereof both at his tryal and execution / collected by Charles Chetwind, Esq.
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             A narrative of the depositions of Robert Jenison Esq with other material evidences, plainly proving that Mr. William Ireland, lately executed for high treason, was in London the nineteenth of August, 1678, notwithstanding his condfident denial thereof both at his tryal and execution / collected by Charles Chetwind, Esq.
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           AT
           THE
           Council
           Chamber
           WHITEHALL
           the
           16th
           of
           July
           1679.
           
        
         
           PRESENT
        
         
           
             
               Lord
               Arch-Bishop
               of
               Canterbury
            
          
           
             
               Lord
               Chancellor
            
          
           
             
               Lord
               President
            
          
           
             
               Lord
               Privy
               Seal
            
          
           
             
               Marquess
               of
               Worcester
            
          
           
             
               Earl
               of
               Bridgwater
            
          
           
             
               Earl
               of
               Sunderland
            
          
           
             
               Earl
               of
               Essex
            
          
           
             
               Viscount
               Fauconberg
            
          
           
             
               Viscount
               Halifax
            
          
           
             
               Lord
               Robarts
            
          
           
             
               Mr.
               Secretary
               Coventry
            
          
           
             
               Mr.
               Chancellor
               of
               the
               Exchequer
               .
            
          
        
         
           IT
           was
           this
           day
           Ordered
           by
           their
           Lordships
           in
           Council
           ,
           That
           the
           Depositions
           and
           Letter
           of
           
             Robert
             Jenison
          
           
             Esq
          
           with
           the
           Attestations
           of
           Sir
           
             Michael
             Warton
             ,
             George
             Booth
             ,
             Robert
             Bowes
             ,
             William
             Burnet
          
           Esquires
           ,
           and
           
             Ralph
             Marshal
          
           Gentleman
           ,
           together
           with
           the
           Narrative
           of
           
             Charles
             Chetwind
          
           
             Esq
          
           (
           relating
           to
           
             William
             Ireland
          
           lately
           executed
           )
           Be
           Printed
           by
           such
           Persons
           as
           Mr.
           Chetwind
           shall
           appoint
           ,
           the
           same
           having
           been
           examined
           and
           approved
           by
           Mr.
           Treby
           late
           Chairman
           to
           the
           Secret
           Committee
           of
           the
           House
           of
           Commons
           .
        
         
           
             John
             Nicholas
             .
          
        
      
       
         
           By
           virtue
           of
           this
           Order
           ,
           I
           do
           appoint
           
             Henry
             Hills
             ,
             Thomas
             Parkhust
             ,
             John
             Starkey
             ,
             Dorman
             Newman
             ,
             Thomas
             Cockeril
             ,
             Thomas
             Simmons
             ,
          
           and
           
             Jacob
             Tonson
          
           ,
           to
           Print
           this
           Narrative
           ,
           and
           that
           no
           other
           presume
           to
           Print
           the
           same
           .
        
         
           
             
               July
               the
               17th
               1679.
               
            
          
           
             Charles
             Chetwind
             .
          
        
      
       
         
         
           A
           NARRATIVE
           OF
           THE
           DEPOSITIONS
           OF
           Robert
           Jenison
           
             Esq
          
           With
           other
           
             Material
             Evidences
          
           ,
           plainly
           proving
           THAT
           Mr.
           William
           Ireland
           ,
           Lately
           Executed
           for
           HIGH
           TREASON
           ,
           Was
           in
           London
           the
           Nineteenth
           of
           August
           ,
           1678.
           
           Notwithstanding
           his
           Confident
           DENIAL
           thereof
           both
           at
           HIS
           Tryal
           and
           Execution
           .
        
         
           Collected
           by
           
             CHARLES
             CHETWIND
          
           
             Esq
          
        
         
           LONDON
           ,
           Printed
           for
           
             Henry
             Hills
             ,
             Thomas
             Parkhurst
             ,
             John
             Starkey
             ,
             Dorman
             Newman
             ,
             Thomas
             Cockeril
             ,
             Thomas
             Simmons
             ,
          
           and
           
             Jacob
             Tonson
          
           .
           1679.
           
        
      
       
         
         
         
           The
           Publishers
           PREFACE
           .
        
         
           IT
           is
           not
           unknown
           to
           all
           considering
           and
           judicious
           Persons
           in
           this
           Kingdom
           ,
           that
           ,
           upon
           the
           happy
           Discovery
           of
           the
           late
           horrid
           Popish
           Plot
           against
           his
           Majesties
           Person
           and
           Government
           ,
           and
           the
           Establisht
           
             Protestant
             Religion
          
           ;
           and
           upon
           the
           Apprehension
           ,
           Arraignment
           ,
           Trial
           ,
           and
           Condemnation
           of
           several
           of
           the
           Conspirators
           ,
           many
           Artifices
           have
           been
           used
           by
           Persons
           of
           the
           same
           Persuasion
           ,
           to
           defame
           the
           Witnesses
           produced
           for
           the
           King
           ,
           and
           to
           invalidate
           their
           Testimonies
           ;
           in
           order
           whereunto
           ,
           several
           Witnesses
           have
           been
           procured
           ,
           first
           at
           the
           Trial
           of
           Ireland
           ,
           and
           after
           at
           the
           Trial
           of
           White
           alias
           
             Whitebread
             ,
             &c.
          
           (
           many
           of
           them
           Scholars
           belonging
           to
           the
           English
           Seminary
           at
           St.
           Omers
           ,
           instructed
           no
           doubt
           ,
           and
           sent
           over
           to
           act
           
             viis
             &
             modis
          
           ,
           for
           the
           preservation
           of
           their
           Conducters
           and
           Leaders
           )
           to
           testifie
           that
           Dr.
           
             Titus
             Oates
          
           ,
           one
           of
           the
           principal
           Witnesses
           for
           his
           Majesty
           ,
           was
           at
           St.
           Omers
           ,
           at
           the
           same
           time
           when
           he
           upon
           his
           Oath
           affirms
           himself
           to
           have
           been
           in
           London
           ;
           other
           Witnesses
           have
           been
           also
           produced
           ,
           to
           prove
           that
           Mr.
           Ireland
           (
           lately
           Executed
           )
           was
           in
           Staffordshire
           ,
           at
           those
           days
           and
           times
           when
           Dr.
           Oates
           ,
           Mr.
           Bedloe
           ,
           and
           one
           
             Sarah
             Pain
          
           ,
           attest
           upon
           their
           Oaths
           ,
           that
           they
           saw
           him
           in
           London
           ,
           as
           by
           the
           Printed
           Trials
           of
           Ireland
           ,
           and
           
             Whitebread
             ,
             &c.
          
           does
           appear
           such
           a
           failure
           in
           Circumstance
           of
           time
           and
           place
           ,
           is
           of
           so
           great
           consequence
           in
           this
           case
           that
           if
           made
           out
           ,
           it
           would
           render
           the
           said
           Persons
           unworthy
           ,
           the
           names
           of
           just
           and
           lawful
           Witnesses
           ;
           and
           for
           that
           reason
           their
           Adversaries
           put
           so
           much
           stress
           upon
           it
           ,
           that
           (
           not
           contented
           with
           the
           determination
           of
           the
           matter
           ,
           at
           the
           Trial
           and
           Condemnation
           of
           Ireland
           )
           they
           again
           resume
           it
           at
           the
           Trial
           of
           
             Whitebread
             ,
             &c.
          
           and
           by
           their
           St.
           Omers
           Youths
           ,
           endeavour
           to
           fasten
           falsehood
           on
           Dr.
           Oates
           ,
           and
           by
           consequence
           to
           impeach
           the
           credit
           of
           his
           Testimony
           ,
           and
           the
           justice
           of
           their
           Condemnation
           .
           As
           to
           the
           first
           particular
           concerning
           Dr.
           Oates
           ,
           his
           Testimony
           is
           justly
           secured
           ,
           and
           he
           himself
           indubitably
           proved
           to
           have
           been
           in
           London
           ,
           at
           the
           times
           by
           him
           mentioned
           and
           deposed
           ,
           by
           the
           concurrent
           evidence
           of
           divers
           creditable
           Persons
           ,
           given
           in
           upon
           Oath
           at
           the
           Trial
           of
           Whitebread
           ;
           so
           that
           the
           Stratagem
           which
           his
           Antagonists
           did
           use
           ,
           to
           destroy
           or
           at
           least
           depretiate
           his
           Testimony
           ,
           hath
           by
           a
           gracious
           emergency
           of
           Divine
           Providence
           ,
           turned
           to
           a
           strong
           confirmation
           thereof
           ,
           and
           for
           ever
           set
           him
           ,
           as
           to
           this
           point
           ,
           
             Rectus
             in
             curia
          
           ,
           a
           good
           and
           lawful
           Witness
           ,
           in
           reference
           to
           all
           the
           Evidence
           already
           given
           ,
           and
           which
           hereafter
           may
           be
           given
           by
           him
           in
           any
           future
           Trials
           .
           Their
           design
           failing
           herein
           ,
           their
           next
           attempt
           was
           to
           entrap
           him
           and
           the
           rest
           ,
           in
           relation
           to
           Mr.
           Ireland
           ,
           whom
           the
           Witnesses
           they
           produce
           ,
           affirm
           to
           have
           been
           in
           Staffordshire
           ,
           and
           other
           places
           out
           of
           London
           ,
           all
           the
           Month
           of
           August
           ,
           from
           the
           fifth
           of
           August
           ,
           to
           the
           fourteenth
           of
           September
           ;
           whereas
           Dr.
           Oates
           ,
           Mr.
           Bedloe
           ,
           and
           
             Sarah
             Pain
          
           ,
           depose
           ,
           that
           they
           saw
           him
           in
           London
           within
           that
           time
           .
           To
           clear
           the
           Truth
           of
           this
           Particular
           ,
           and
           to
           justifie
           the
           Evidence
           of
           Dr.
           Oates
           ,
           and
           the
           rest
           ,
           the
           Testimony
           of
           Mr.
           Jenison
           
           is
           a
           pregnant
           demonstration
           ,
           which
           I
           thought
           truly
           to
           deserve
           my
           utmost
           dilligence
           to
           bring
           to
           light
           ;
           and
           in
           order
           thereunto
           ,
           communicated
           the
           same
           to
           the
           Right
           Honourable
           the
           
             Earl
             of
             Shaftsbury
          
           ,
           and
           by
           his
           appointment
           to
           Justice
           Warcup
           ;
           before
           whom
           Mr.
           Jenisons
           Depositions
           ,
           and
           the
           Attestations
           of
           the
           worthy
           Gentlemen
           hereafter
           mentioned
           ,
           were
           taken
           ;
           and
           in
           whose
           hands
           ,
           if
           not
           transmitted
           by
           him
           to
           the
           Clerk
           of
           his
           Majesties
           Council
           ,
           the
           Originals
           of
           the
           ensuing
           Papers
           are
           to
           be
           seen
           ,
           and
           whose
           joint
           endeavours
           for
           the
           Discovery
           of
           the
           Truth
           in
           this
           ,
           as
           well
           as
           other
           particulars
           relating
           to
           the
           Plot
           ,
           deserve
           an
           honourable
           mention
           .
        
         
           The
           occasion
           of
           what
           is
           here
           publisht
           arising
           from
           several
           passages
           in
           the
           Trials
           of
           Ireland
           ,
           and
           
             Whitebread
             ,
             &c.
          
           those
           passages
           are
           here
           extracted
           and
           presented
           to
           the
           Readers
           view
           ;
           that
           having
           the
           case
           before
           him
           ,
           he
           may
           apply
           this
           evidence
           thereto
           ;
           whereby
           his
           judgment
           will
           be
           clear
           .
        
         
           The
           Reader
           will
           find
           this
           short
           discourse
           divided
           into
           three
           parts
           .
        
         
           The
           First
           relates
           the
           
             means
             and
             manner
          
           of
           obtaining
           the
           Letter
           and
           Depositions
           of
           that
           worthy
           Person
           ,
           Mr.
           Jenison
           .
        
         
           The
           Second
           exhibits
           the
           
             Letter
             and
             Depositions
          
           .
        
         
           The
           Third
           ,
           some
           observations
           thereupon
           ,
           for
           the
           full
           satisfaction
           of
           all
           unbiass'd
           minds
           in
           the
           matter
           Controverted
           .
        
      
    
     
       
         
         
           THE
           NARRATIVE
           .
        
         
           
             UPon
             the
             15th
             .
             of
             June
             in
             this
             present
             year
             1679.
             
             
               Charles
               Chettwind
            
             of
             Westminster
             
               Esq
            
             had
             occasionally
             some
             discourse
             with
             a
             Gentleman
             till
             then
             unknown
             to
             him
             ;
             to
             wit
             ,
             Mr.
             Griffith
             of
             Grayes-Inn
             ,
             Barrister
             at
             Law
             ,
             concerning
             the
             five
             Traitors
             that
             had
             been
             condemned
             the
             Saturday
             before
             ,
             and
             their
             attempt
             to
             prove
             Mr.
             
               William
               Ireland
            
             ,
             alias
             Ironmonger
             ,
             lately
             executed
             for
             High-Treason
             to
             have
             been
             in
             Staffordshire
             ,
             and
             on
             his
             Journey
             thither
             from
             the
             5th
             .
             of
             August
             1678
             till
             the
             7th
             .
             of
             September
             following
             ,
             and
             not
             to
             have
             been
             within
             that
             time
             in
             London
             ,
             which
             as
             Mr.
             Oates
             and
             others
             ,
             had
             upon
             his
             Tryal
             affirmed
             him
             to
             be
             there
             ,
             about
             the
             12th
             .
             of
             that
             Month
             ,
             and
             to
             be
             returned
             thither
             again
             about
             the
             beginning
             of
             September
             :
             whereupon
             the
             said
             Mr.
             Griffith
             ,
             told
             Mr.
             Chetwind
             ,
             that
             Sir
             
               Michael
               Warton
            
             of
             Beverly
             in
             the
             County
             of
             York
             Knight
             ,
             a
             Worthy
             Member
             of
             the
             Honourable
             House
             of
             Commons
             in
             the
             last
             Parliament
             told
             him
             ,
             that
             since
             the
             execution
             of
             Ireland
             ,
             Mr.
             Jenison
             (
             a
             Gentleman
             of
             very
             good
             Quality
             ,
             and
             a
             Student
             in
             Grays-Inn
             ,
             who
             was
             a
             Romanist
             till
             about
             January
             last
             )
             affirmed
             ,
             that
             Mr.
             Ireland
             was
             in
             London
             about
             the
             middle
             of
             August
             ,
             and
             that
             he
             was
             with
             him
             then
             at
             a
             Scriveners
             at
             the
             Sign
             of
             the
             White-hart
             in
             Russel-Street
             in
             
               Covent
               Garden
            
             ,
             which
             relation
             he
             confirm'd
             with
             several
             other
             notable
             circumstances
             .
             Mr.
             Chetwind
             ,
             having
             heard
             this
             ,
             went
             to
             Whitehall
             ,
             and
             there
             attending
             on
             the
             Right
             Honourable
             the
             
               Earl
               of
               Shaftsbury
            
             ,
             Lord
             President
             of
             his
             Majesties
             Privy
             Council
             ,
             acquainted
             his
             Lordship
             with
             what
             Mr.
             Griffith
             had
             told
             him
             ;
             upon
             which
             ,
             the
             said
             
               Earl
               of
               Shaftsbury
            
             told
             Mr.
             Chetwind
             ,
             that
             it
             would
             be
             very
             considerable
             ,
             if
             it
             could
             be
             made
             out
             .
             Mr.
             Chettwind
             thus
             encouraged
             by
             the
             said
             Earl
             ,
             did
             by
             his
             order
             ,
             make
             it
             his
             business
             the
             next
             morning
             ,
             being
             
               Tuesday
               June
            
             the
             16th
             .
             to
             find
             out
             Sir
             
               Michael
               Warton
            
             ,
             and
             coming
             to
             the
             Coffee
             House
             in
             
               Covent
               Garden
            
             ,
             where
             Sir
             Michael
             used
             to
             be
             when
             in
             Town
             ,
             Mr.
             Chetwind
             met
             there
             with
             Mr.
             
               Ralph
               Marshal
            
             Secretary
             to
             the
             Earl
             of
             Craven
             ,
             who
             upon
             discourse
             told
             Mr
             Chetwind
             that
             Sir
             Michael
             lived
             at
             Hampstead
             this
             Summer
             .
             Mr.
             Marshal
             ,
             understanding
             something
             of
             the
             business
             for
             which
             Mr.
             Chettwind
             enquired
             after
             Sir
             Michael
             ,
             said
             ,
             that
             Sir
             Michael
             had
             often
             related
             to
             him
             ,
             and
             he
             was
             sure
             he
             would
             justifie
             it
             ,
             that
             the
             said
             Mr.
             Jenison
             of
             Grays-Inn
             (
             who
             was
             lately
             come
             over
             to
             the
             Protestant
             Religion
             ,
             a
             person
             of
             considerable
             quality
             ,
             and
             Heir
             to
             a
             good
             Estate
             ,
             his
             elder
             Brother
             being
             a
             priest
             ,
             and
             in
             Newgate
             )
             told
             him
             ,
             the
             said
             Sir
             Michael
             ,
             in
             the
             presence
             of
             several
             other
             Gentlemen
             of
             Quality
             presently
             after
             the
             execution
             of
             Ireland
             the
             severall
             following
             particulars
             which
             they
             had
             hitherto
             taken
             no
             care
             to
             discover
             ,
             because
             they
             expected
             not
             that
             the
             evidence
             given
             in
             the
             Triall
             against
             him
             the
             said
             Ireland
             ,
             would
             after
             his
             execution
             come
             into
             question
             or
             debate
             .
          
           
             The
             Particulars
             were
             these
             .
          
           
             That
             in
             the
             month
             of
             August
             1678.
             when
             His
             Majesty
             was
             at
             Windsor
             ,
             Mr.
             Jenison
             going
             to
             Windsor
             on
             Saturday
             the
             17th
             of
             August
             and
             returning
             the
             19th
             ,
             immediately
             upon
             his
             return
             that
             night
             ,
             he
             went
             to
             give
             Mr.
             Ireland
             (
             the
             same
             person
             who
             was
             afterwards
             executed
             )
             a
             visit
             ,
             and
             found
             him
             at
             the
             Sign
             of
             the
             Hart
             in
             Russel-Street
             in
             
               Covent
               Garden
            
             ,
             and
             after
             a
             Salute
             ,
             Mr.
             Ireland
             asked
             him
             several
             Questions
             ,
             as
             ,
             
               What
               newes
               from
               Windsor
               ?
               how
               his
               Majesty
               spent
               his
               time
               ?
               and
               what
               recreations
               he
               followed
               ?
               and
               whither
               he
               walked
               abroad
               much
               ,
               and
               how
               guarded
               ?
            
             to
             which
             Mr.
             Jenison
             answered
             that
             his
             Majestie
             delighted
             much
             in
             Hawking
             and
             Fishing
             ,
             but
             most
             in
             the
             latter
             ,
             which
             his
             Majesty
             followed
             early
             in
             the
             morning
             with
             some
             few
             persons
             attending
             him
             ;
             upon
             which
             Mr.
             Ireland
             replyed
             ,
             
               I
               wonder
               his
               Majesty
               is
               no
               better
               guarded
               ,
               he
               were
               easily
               taken
               off
               ,
            
             whereupon
             Mr.
             Jenison
             said
             God
             forbid
             ,
             or
             words
             to
             that
             effect
             ,
             which
             made
             Mr.
             Ireland
             stop
             his
             discourse
             .
             Mr.
             Marshal
             reporting
             this
             to
             Mr.
             Chetwind
             in
             presence
             of
             Mr.
             Ash
             and
             Mr.
             Spicer
             ,
             two
             persons
             of
             unquestionable
             reputation
             ;
             Mr.
             Ash
             replied
             ,
             that
             he
             was
             last
             night
             in
             company
             with
             Mr.
             Griffith
             ,
             and
             Mr.
             Booth
             ,
             Son
             
             to
             my
             Lord
             
               De
               la
               More
            
             ,
             where
             he
             heard
             them
             discourse
             of
             this
             very
             Business
             ;
             Mr.
             Booth
             saying
             that
             he
             heard
             Mr.
             Jenison
             speak
             the
             same
             things
             ,
             whereupon
             Mr.
             Marshall
             undertook
             to
             go
             that
             very
             Day
             to
             Hampstead
             to
             Sir
             
               Michael
               Warton
            
             ,
             and
             give
             Mr.
             Chetwind
             an
             account
             of
             it
             the
             next
             Morning
             .
             Mr.
             Ash
             and
             Mr.
             Spicer
             also
             ,
             before
             Mr.
             Chetwind
             and
             they
             parted
             ,
             having
             promised
             to
             go
             to
             Mr.
             Booth
             ,
             met
             him
             ,
             who
             justified
             every
             syllable
             of
             what
             he
             had
             said
             ,
             and
             withall
             ,
             remembred
             very
             well
             that
             when
             Sir
             
               Michael
               Warton
            
             took
             some
             particular
             Notice
             of
             it
             ,
             Mr.
             Jenison
             seemed
             to
             be
             surprised
             ,
             and
             was
             sorry
             he
             had
             uttered
             those
             Words
             ,
             and
             began
             to
             recall
             them
             ,
             as
             to
             the
             time
             only
             of
             
             Ireland's
             being
             in
             Town
             :
             But
             says
             Mr.
             Bowes
             ,
             (
             who
             was
             there
             present
             ,
             a
             Person
             of
             Quality
             of
             Grayes-Inn
             ,
             and
             well
             esteemed
             in
             your
             House
             )
             Jenison
             you
             cannot
             retract
             your
             Words
             ,
             for
             I
             have
             a
             Letter
             under
             your
             own
             Hand
             which
             will
             put
             you
             in
             mind
             of
             the
             Time
             ,
             and
             repeats
             the
             very
             same
             thing
             .
          
           
             The
             Fryday
             following
             being
             the
             20th
             .
             of
             June
             ,
             Mr.
             Booth
             and
             Mr.
             Bowes
             met
             with
             Mr.
             Jenison
             ,
             and
             discoursed
             the
             matter
             with
             him
             ,
             who
             then
             owned
             all
             the
             Questions
             which
             Ireland
             asked
             him
             ,
             namely
             ,
             
               What
               News
               at
               Windsor
               ?
               how
               his
               Majesty
               spent
               his
               time
               ?
            
             &c.
             But
             ,
             says
             he
             ,
             I
             desire
             a
             days
             time
             to
             consider
             ,
             that
             I
             may
             be
             exact
             as
             to
             the
             Day
             when
             they
             were
             spoken
             ;
             for
             several
             Persons
             have
             told
             me
             of
             a
             great
             many
             out
             of
             Staffordshire
             ,
             who
             upon
             the
             Tryal
             of
             the
             5
             Traitors
             ,
             Whitebread
             ,
             &c.
             had
             proved
             Mr.
             Ireland
             to
             be
             in
             Staffordshire
             from
             the
             5th
             of
             August
             to
             the
             7th
             of
             September
             ;
             and
             therefore
             I
             must
             seriously
             consider
             what
             time
             it
             was
             that
             I
             saw
             him
             in
             London
             ;
             upon
             which
             they
             appointed
             to
             dine
             together
             on
             Saturday
             following
             ,
             being
             the
             21
             of
             June
             .
             Which
             Day
             being
             come
             ,
             there
             met
             Sir.
             
               Michael
               Warton
            
             ,
             Mr.
             Jenison
             ,
             Mr.
             Bowes
             ,
             Mr.
             Booth
             ,
             Mr.
             Griffith
             ,
             and
             Mr.
             Marshall
             ,
             and
             there
             they
             shewed
             Mr.
             Jenison
             his
             Letter
             ,
             which
             he
             acknowledged
             to
             be
             writ
             by
             his
             own
             Hand
             ;
             and
             further
             told
             them
             ,
             that
             upon
             the
             15th
             of
             August
             he
             came
             to
             London
             from
             Tunbridge
             ,
             that
             upon
             the
             17th
             he
             went
             to
             Windsor
             ,
             and
             upon
             the
             19th
             he
             returned
             to
             London
             again
             ,
             and
             either
             that
             Night
             or
             the
             next
             Day
             ,
             he
             had
             this
             Discourse
             with
             Mr.
             Ireland
             at
             the
             Sign
             of
             the
             Hart
             in
             Russel-street
             in
             
               Covent
               Garden
            
             ;
             further
             he
             related
             that
             on
             the
             4th
             of
             September
             following
             he
             went
             from
             London
             into
             the
             North
             ,
             returning
             back
             to
             London
             in
             the
             ensuing
             November
             ,
             and
             so
             presently
             after
             removed
             to
             Reading
             ,
             from
             whence
             he
             writ
             the
             forementioned
             Letter
             of
             Mr.
             Bowes
             .
             This
             Confession
             of
             his
             Mr.
             Marshal
             took
             in
             Writing
             at
             that
             very
             Time
             (
             when
             they
             dined
             together
             )
             all
             of
             them
             being
             present
             ,
             as
             also
             a
             true
             Copy
             of
             his
             Letter
             writ
             from
             Reading
             ,
             both
             which
             he
             brought
             to
             Mr.
             Chetwind
             the
             same
             Night
             ;
             immediately
             upon
             which
             Mr.
             Chetwind
             and
             he
             carried
             them
             to
             my
             Lord
             of
             Shaftsbury
             ,
             his
             Lordship
             the
             next
             Day
             (
             being
             the
             22d
             of
             June
             )
             communicating
             them
             to
             my
             Lord
             Chancellor
             and
             several
             others
             of
             his
             Majesties
             Privy
             Council
             .
             The
             following
             Day
             
               (
               viz.
               June23d
               .
            
             )
             Mr.
             Chetwind
             brought
             Mr.
             Bowes
             and
             Mr.
             Marshall
             with
             the
             Original
             Letter
             to
             the
             
               Earl
               of
               Shaftsbury
            
             ,
             before
             whom
             Mr.
             Jenison
             acknowledged
             the
             Letter
             to
             be
             his
             own
             ,
             with
             the
             circumstances
             thereunto
             referring
             concerning
             Time
             and
             Place
             .
          
           
             These
             things
             will
             receive
             a
             sufficient
             Confirmation
             if
             we
             do
             but
             seriously
             peruse
             all
             the
             ensuing
             Informations
             taken
             before
             one
             of
             his
             Majesties
             Justices
             of
             the
             Peace
             for
             the
             County
             of
             Middlesex
             ;
             as
             you
             will
             see
             by
             his
             Subscription
             at
             the
             Close
             ,
             as
             also
             the
             Subscriptions
             of
             those
             that
             gave
             the
             Informations
             .
          
           
             
               
                 
                   
                     
                       
                         The
                         Information
                         of
                         Sir
                      
                       Michael
                       Warton
                       Knight
                       .
                    
                     
                       About
                       the
                       month
                       of
                       February
                       last
                       Mr.
                       Bowes
                       and
                       Mr.
                       Burnet
                       of
                       Grayes-Inn
                       and
                       my self
                       ,
                       went
                       to
                       dine
                       together
                       at
                       the
                       Mirmaid
                       at
                       
                         Grayes-Inn
                         Gate
                      
                       in
                       Holborn
                       ,
                       whither
                       Mr.
                       Jenison
                       ,
                       an
                       Acquaintance
                       of
                       Mr.
                       Bowes
                       ,
                       accidentally
                       came
                       into
                       the
                       Room
                       ,
                       so
                       that
                       we
                       dined
                       together
                       ;
                       and
                       upon
                       general
                       Discourses
                       at
                       Dinner
                       ,
                       we
                       were
                       talking
                       of
                       Mr.
                       Irelands
                       Tryal
                       or
                       Execution
                       ,
                       whereupon
                       Mr.
                       Bowes
                       begun
                       the
                       discourse
                       of
                       a
                       Letter
                       he
                       had
                       from
                       Mr.
                       Jenison
                       which
                       (
                       he
                       thought
                       )
                       if
                       he
                       had
                       received
                       timely
                       enough
                       might
                       have
                       very
                       much
                       cleared
                       the
                       Point
                       of
                       Irelands
                       being
                       in
                       London
                       in
                       August
                       last
                       ;
                       Mr.
                       Jenison
                       owned
                       the
                       Letter
                       ,
                       and
                       continued
                       the
                       Discourse
                       ;
                       sometime
                       after
                       I
                       saw
                       the
                       Letter
                       ,
                       and
                       by
                       the
                       reading
                       judged
                       it
                       might
                       have
                       been
                       very
                       Material
                       ,
                       the
                       matter
                       of
                       the
                       Letter
                       being
                       perfectly
                       owned
                       by
                       Mr.
                       Jenison
                       .
                    
                     
                       
                         
                           
                             June
                             26th
                          
                           1679.
                           
                        
                      
                       
                         M.
                         Warton
                         .
                      
                    
                  
                   
                     
                       
                         The
                         Attestation
                         of
                      
                       George
                       Booth
                       
                         Esq
                      
                    
                     
                       I
                       do
                       attest
                       this
                       Matter
                       that
                       Sir
                       
                         Michael
                         Warton
                      
                       has
                       here
                       attested
                       .
                    
                     
                       
                         George
                         Booth
                         .
                      
                    
                  
                   
                     
                     
                       
                         The
                         Information
                         of
                         Mr.
                      
                       Burnet
                       .
                    
                     
                       What
                       Sir
                       
                         Michael
                         Warton
                      
                       has
                       here
                       said
                       ,
                       I
                       know
                       to
                       be
                       true
                       ;
                       the
                       Day
                       that
                       Mr.
                       Jenison
                       went
                       to
                       Windsor
                       ,
                       I
                       do
                       believe
                       to
                       be
                       the
                       17th
                       of
                       August
                       last
                       ,
                       it
                       was
                       on
                       a
                       Saturday
                       ,
                       the
                       day
                       of
                       Dochets
                       Horse-race
                       ,
                       for
                       I
                       met
                       him
                       riding
                       to
                       Windsor
                       as
                       I
                       came
                       from
                       the
                       Horse-race
                       .
                    
                     
                       
                         W.
                         Burnet
                         .
                      
                    
                  
                   
                     
                       
                         The
                         Information
                         of
                      
                       Robert
                       Bowes
                       
                         Esq
                      
                    
                     
                       About
                       the
                       latter
                       end
                       of
                       December
                       last
                       I
                       received
                       a
                       Letter
                       from
                       Mr.
                       
                         Robert
                         Jenison
                      
                       ,
                       which
                       a
                       little
                       time
                       after
                       I
                       shewed
                       to
                       Mr.
                       Savill
                       and
                       Mr.
                       Ewers
                       of
                       Lincolns-Inn
                       ,
                       and
                       have
                       now
                       by
                       me
                       :
                       Mr.
                       Jenison
                       hath
                       owned
                       it
                       all
                       along
                       ,
                       and
                       doth
                       so
                       still
                       .
                       I
                       have
                       several
                       times
                       since
                       discourst
                       with
                       him
                       upon
                       it
                       ;
                       I
                       went
                       to
                       Windsor
                       on
                       the
                       12th
                       or
                       13th
                       of
                       August
                       last
                       ,
                       and
                       staid
                       a
                       Night
                       there
                       ,
                       and
                       from
                       thence
                       to
                       Henly
                       ,
                       where
                       I
                       staid
                       untill
                       the
                       6th
                       of
                       September
                       following
                       or
                       thereabouts
                       .
                    
                     
                       
                         
                           June
                           26th
                           1679.
                           
                        
                      
                       
                         Rob.
                         Bowes
                         .
                      
                    
                  
                   
                     
                       
                         The
                         Information
                         of
                      
                       Ralph
                       Marshal
                       
                         Gent.
                         is
                      
                       ,
                    
                     
                       That
                       in
                       or
                       about
                       the
                       Month
                       of
                       February
                       last
                       ,
                       being
                       in
                       discourse
                       with
                       Sir
                       
                         Michael
                         Warton
                      
                       ,
                       concerning
                       Mr.
                       Irelands
                       being
                       about
                       that
                       time
                       Executed
                       ,
                       and
                       concerning
                       his
                       denying
                       his
                       being
                       in
                       London
                       in
                       August
                       last
                       ,
                       Sir
                       Michael
                       told
                       this
                       Informant
                       ,
                       That
                       if
                       Mr.
                       Ireland
                       were
                       to
                       be
                       Tryed
                       again
                       ,
                       it
                       would
                       be
                       proved
                       that
                       he
                       was
                       in
                       Town
                       in
                       August
                       ,
                       by
                       Mr.
                       Jenison
                       ,
                       a
                       Gentleman
                       of
                       Quality
                       of
                       Grays-Inn
                       ;
                       Sir
                       Michael
                       then
                       telling
                       him
                       also
                       ,
                       what
                       discourse
                       Mr.
                       Jenison
                       ,
                       and
                       Mr.
                       Ireland
                       had
                       at
                       that
                       time
                       together
                       ,
                       which
                       discourse
                       is
                       particularly
                       mentioned
                       in
                       a
                       Letter
                       ,
                       in
                       the
                       hand
                       of
                       Mr.
                       Bowes
                       of
                       Grays-Inn
                       ,
                       which
                       Letter
                       I
                       have
                       read
                       ,
                       and
                       heard
                       Mr.
                       Jenison
                       own
                       to
                       be
                       his
                       own
                       hand
                       Writing
                       .
                       And
                       this
                       Informant
                       further
                       saith
                       ,
                       That
                       he
                       hath
                       often
                       heard
                       Mr.
                       Jenison
                       say
                       ,
                       that
                       he
                       believeth
                       the
                       time
                       he
                       had
                       the
                       discourse
                       with
                       Mr.
                       Ireland
                       ,
                       mentioned
                       in
                       his
                       said
                       Letter
                       ,
                       was
                       the
                       19th
                       of
                       August
                       last
                       ,
                       in
                       the
                       Afternoon
                       ,
                       he
                       being
                       come
                       that
                       morning
                       from
                       Windsor
                       ,
                       and
                       that
                       it
                       was
                       at
                       one
                       Mr.
                       Coynoes
                       house
                       ,
                       at
                       the
                       White-Hart
                       in
                       
                       Russel-street
                       .
                    
                     
                       
                         Ralph
                         Marshal
                         .
                      
                    
                  
                   
                     These
                     Informations
                     above
                     written
                     ,
                     were
                     all
                     Written
                     and
                     Subscribed
                     by
                     the
                     Parties
                     above
                     named
                     ,
                     on
                     
                       the
                       26th
                       of
                       June
                       1679.
                       
                    
                     
                       Before
                       us
                       ,
                       
                         
                           Edmond
                           Warcupp
                           .
                        
                         
                           Charles
                           Chetwind
                           .
                        
                      
                    
                  
                
              
            
          
           
             Not
             to
             put
             you
             off
             with
             the
             Informations
             of
             Others
             ,
             concerning
             Mr.
             Jenisons
             Letter
             and
             Words
             ,
             we
             shall
             in
             the
             next
             Place
             give
             you
             the
             true
             Copy
             of
             the
             Letter
             ,
             and
             also
             of
             Two
             differing
             Informations
             of
             his
             ,
             both
             of
             them
             full
             as
             much
             ,
             if
             not
             more
             home
             to
             the
             purpose
             than
             what
             had
             been
             reported
             by
             others
             .
          
           
             
               
                 
                   Mr.
                   Jenisons
                
                 Letter
                 from
                 Reading
                 in
                 Barkshire
                 ,
                 upon
                 his
                 return
                 from
                 the
                 North.
                 To
                 
                   Robert
                   Bowes
                
                 ,
                 
                   Esq
                
                 Son
                 to
                 Sir
                 
                   Francis
                   Bowes
                
                 .
                 (
                 Mr.
                 Jenison
                 then
                 being
                 a
                 Papist
                 .
                 )
              
               
                 
                   Reading
                   
                     December
                     19.
                     1678.
                     
                  
                
                 
                   SIR
                   ,
                
              
               
                 
                   YOurs
                   I
                   have
                   ,
                   bearing
                   Date
                   the
                   15th
                   instant
                   ,
                   and
                   have
                   not
                   missed
                   a
                   Post
                   I
                   could
                   send
                   to
                   you
                   ;
                   I
                   am
                   not
                   ignorant
                   of
                   the
                   offer
                   made
                   by
                   His
                
                 Majesties
                 
                   Proclamation
                   ,
                   and
                   lay
                   hold
                   on
                   nothing
                   but
                   Pardon
                   for
                   concealing
                   that
                   Circumstance
                   I
                   have
                   known
                   so
                   long
                   ;
                   yet
                   I
                   did
                   not
                   altogether
                   conceal
                   it
                   neither
                   :
                   for
                   I
                   told
                   my
                
                 Cozin
                 Smith
                 
                   of
                   it
                   within
                   Two
                   or
                   Three
                   days
                   of
                   the
                   breaking
                   out
                   of
                   this
                   damnable
                   Conspiracy
                   ,
                   which
                   how
                   much
                   it
                   weighs
                   I
                   am
                   not
                   a
                   fit
                   Judg
                   of
                   ;
                   and
                   I
                   would
                   not
                   ,
                   were
                   it
                   to
                   gain
                   a
                   Million
                   ,
                   Nay
                   ,
                   a
                   Million
                   of
                   Worlds
                   ,
                   if
                   possible
                   ,
                   draw
                   the
                   least
                   drop
                   of
                   innocent
                   Blood
                   upon
                   me
                   ;
                   for
                   I
                   know
                   it
                   is
                   a
                   crying
                   sin
                   ,
                   therefore
                   I
                   pray
                   God
                   avert
                   it
                   from
                   me
                   .
                   All
                   that
                   I
                   can
                   tell
                   you
                   ,
                   as
                   I
                   hope
                   for
                   forgivness
                   of
                   my
                   Sins
                   and
                   Eternal
                   Salvation
                   ,
                   is
                   ,
                   (
                   if
                   you
                   will
                   distinguish
                   between
                   the
                   times
                   )
                   what
                   follows
                   .
                
              
               
               
                 
                   Being
                   come
                   from
                
                 Windsor
                 ,
                 
                   where
                   I
                   promised
                   my self
                   the
                   happiness
                   and
                   satisfaction
                   of
                   seeing
                   you
                   ,
                   that
                   I
                   might
                   take
                   my
                   leave
                   before
                   my
                   journey
                   for
                   the
                
                 North
                 ,
                 
                   (
                   which
                   to
                   the
                   best
                   of
                   my
                   Memory
                   was
                   about
                   the
                   latter
                   end
                   of
                
                 August
                 ,
                 )
                 
                   I
                   went
                   to
                   do
                   the
                   same
                   to
                
                 Mr.
                 Ireland
                 ,
                 
                   whom
                   then
                   ,
                   (
                   with
                   all
                   the
                   rest
                   ,
                   )
                   I
                   did
                   believe
                   to
                   be
                   a
                   man
                   of
                   the
                   best
                   Conversation
                   and
                   Life
                   in
                   the
                   world
                   ,
                   (
                   for
                   you
                   know
                   the
                   Law
                   does
                   presume
                   every
                   man
                   good
                   until
                   it
                   be
                   proved
                   otherwise
                   .
                   )
                   After
                   my
                   salute
                   ,
                   and
                   I
                   had
                   told
                   him
                   I
                   had
                   been
                   at
                
                 Windsor
                 ,
                 
                   his
                   Interrogatory
                   ,
                   or
                   Question
                   was
                   ,
                
                 what
                 News
                 ?
                 
                   My
                   teturn
                   was
                   the
                   usual
                   no
                   News
                   ,
                
                 but
                 good
                 ;
                 
                   then
                   he
                   proceeds
                   to
                   ask
                   me
                   to
                   the
                   best
                   of
                   my
                   memory
                   ,
                
                 how
                 his
                 Sacred
                 Majesty
                 and
                 the
                 Court
                 were
                 diverted
                 ?
                 
                   I
                   replied
                   ,
                   that
                   I
                   heard
                   ,
                   his
                
                 Majesty
                 
                   took
                   much
                   delight
                   in
                   Hawking
                   and
                   Fishing
                   ,
                   but
                   chiefly
                   in
                   the
                   latter
                   ,
                   which
                   his
                
                 Majesty
                 
                   followed
                   early
                   in
                   the
                   morning
                   ,
                   as
                   I
                   heard
                   ,
                   accompanied
                   only
                   with
                   Two
                   or
                   Three
                   Lords
                   ,
                   or
                   other
                   Attendants
                   :
                
                 I
                 wonder
                 ,
                 said
                 Mr.
                 Ireland
                 ,
                 why
                 his
                 Majesty
                 should
                 be
                 so
                 thin
                 Guarded
                 ,
                 he
                 were
                 easily
                 taken
                 off
                 or
                 removed
                 ,
                 
                   or
                   some
                   words
                   to
                   that
                   purpose
                   ,
                   so
                   sounding
                   ;
                   God
                   forbid
                   ,
                   I
                   returned
                
                 ;
                 No
                 ,
                 
                   subjoyns
                   he
                
                 ,
                 I
                 do
                 not
                 say
                 it
                 is
                 Lawful
                 ,
                 
                   and
                   something
                   else
                   I
                   cannot
                   call
                   to
                   mind
                   that
                   did
                   qualifie
                   the
                   former
                   words
                   ,
                   that
                   I
                   did
                   then
                   think
                   his
                   meaning
                   was
                   ,
                   he
                   was
                   then
                   sorry
                   his
                   Sacred
                
                 Majesty
                 
                   should
                   go
                   so
                   weakly
                   guarded
                   ;
                   I
                   then
                   took
                   it
                   by
                   that
                   handle
                   ,
                   having
                   no
                   other
                   Reason
                   ;
                   for
                   I
                   did
                   believe
                   him
                   a
                   Saint
                   ,
                   never
                   hearing
                   him
                   ,
                   nor
                   any
                   of
                   them
                   ,
                   as
                   I
                   hope
                   for
                   everlasting
                   life
                   ,
                   Defend
                   or
                   Maintain
                   in
                   the
                   least
                   ,
                
                 That
                 damnable
                 Doctrine
                 of
                 deposing
                 Kings
                 ;
                 
                   But
                   now
                   I
                   know
                   that
                   passage
                   may
                   be
                   taken
                   by
                   the
                   other
                   handle
                   ;
                   and
                   I
                   am
                   not
                   fit
                   to
                   judg
                   how
                   far
                   ,
                   yet
                   you
                   know
                   words
                   are
                   to
                   be
                   taken
                   in
                   the
                   milder
                   sense
                   unless
                   they
                   be
                   positive
                   ,
                   which
                   these
                   ,
                   with
                   their
                   qualifications
                   as
                   they
                   were
                   spoken
                   ,
                   are
                   not
                   .
                   I
                   suppose
                   there
                   is
                   clearer
                   Evidence
                   from
                
                 Mr.
                 Oates
                 ,
                 
                   that
                   better
                   know
                   it
                   than
                   I.
                   There
                   is
                   only
                   another
                   thing
                   (
                   and
                   I
                   have
                   cleared
                   my
                   Soul
                   ,
                   )
                   has
                   run
                   in
                   my
                   fancy
                   ever
                   since
                   this
                   ,
                   ever
                   to
                   be
                   detested
                   Immergency
                   happened
                   ,
                   which
                   applyed
                   to
                   these
                   times
                   has
                   an
                   ill
                   sound
                   with
                   it
                   ;
                   you
                   know
                   whom
                   I
                   accuse
                   now
                   ,
                
                 Tho.
                 Je.
                 
                   but
                   in
                   other
                   times
                   is
                   capable
                   of
                   a
                   good
                   Construction
                   ,
                
                 viz.
                 
                   He
                   had
                   some
                   business
                   to
                   acquaint
                   me
                   with
                   ,
                   and
                   this
                   for
                   two
                   or
                   three
                   times
                   at
                   our
                   parting
                   ;
                   for
                   I
                   did
                   not
                   see
                   him
                   above
                   Four
                   or
                   five
                   times
                   ,
                   as
                   I
                   remember
                   the
                   while
                   I
                   was
                   in
                
                 London
                 .
                 
                   Once
                   I
                   urg'd
                   him
                   to
                   tell
                   me
                   the
                   business
                   ,
                   he
                   replied
                   ,
                   he
                   would
                   take
                   some
                   other
                   occasion
                   ;
                   now
                   I
                   did
                   believe
                   he
                   meant
                   somewhat
                   about
                   my
                   setling
                   in
                   the
                   world
                   as
                   a
                   Match
                   ,
                   having
                   propounded
                   one
                   to
                   me
                   of
                   a
                
                 Knights
                 
                   Daughter
                   half
                   a
                   Year
                   before
                   ,
                   or
                   of
                   that
                   sort
                   of
                   business
                   ;
                   and
                   't
                   is
                   capable
                   of
                   that
                   Construction
                   still
                   ,
                   if
                   there
                   be
                   no
                   clearer
                   Evidence
                   to
                   give
                   a
                   Luster
                   and
                   a
                   great
                   Light
                   on
                   the
                   other
                   side
                   .
                   We
                   have
                   a
                   good
                   Author
                   that
                   commands
                   us
                   to
                   give
                   unto
                
                 Caesar
                 
                   what
                   is
                
                 Caesars
                 ,
                 
                   and
                   to
                
                 God
                 ,
                 
                   who
                   is
                
                 Truth
                 it self
                 ,
                 
                   what
                   belongs
                   to
                   him
                   ,
                   which
                   I
                   would
                   do
                   to
                   the
                   dividing
                   the
                   minutest
                   Atom
                   in
                   the
                   presence
                   of
                   that
                
                 Truth
                 
                   which
                   made
                   me
                   .
                   But
                   I
                   can
                   now
                   remember
                   no
                   more
                   if
                   I
                   were
                   to
                   gain
                   Heaven
                   ,
                   unless
                   my
                   Cozin
                
                 Smith
                 
                   put
                   me
                   in
                   mind
                   of
                   a
                   word
                   or
                   two
                   more
                   relating
                   to
                   one
                   of
                   these
                   two
                   passages
                   ,
                   that
                   now
                   I
                   don't
                   remember
                   ,
                   which
                   I
                   will
                   own
                   if
                   I
                   said
                   it
                   ,
                   otherwise
                   not
                   ;
                   for
                   I
                   will
                   have
                   nothing
                   to
                   do
                   with
                   their
                   blood
                   ,
                   further
                   then
                   what
                   I
                   can
                   with
                   a
                   clear
                   and
                   safe
                   Conscience
                   swear
                   ,
                   which
                   I
                   am
                   ready
                   to
                   do
                   ,
                   if
                   sent
                   for
                   ,
                   as
                   far
                   as
                   I
                   have
                   declared
                   ;
                   I
                   am
                   in
                   the
                   mean
                   while
                   ,
                   Sir
                   ,
                
              
               
                 
                   Your
                   assured
                   Friend
                   ,
                   and
                   Faithful
                   Servant
                   ,
                   ROB.
                   JENISON
                   .
                
                 This
                 be
                 pleased
                 to
                 shew
                 to
                 Collonel
                 Tempest
                 ,
                 our
                 Knight
                 of
                 the
                 Shire
                 ,
                 or
                 whom
                 you
                 please
                 to
                 acquaint
                 with
                 it
                 .
              
               
                 
                   POSTSCRIPT
                   .
                
                 
                   I
                   Hear
                   since
                   I
                   have
                   writ
                   this
                   ,
                   that
                   4
                   of
                   the
                   Jusuits
                   are
                   Condemned
                   ,
                   which
                   if
                   the
                   included
                   2
                   be
                   in
                   ,
                   this
                   might
                   be
                   spared
                   ,
                   only
                   for
                   your
                   satisfaction
                   I
                   send
                   it
                   ;
                   and
                   what
                   I
                   have
                   said
                   in
                   this
                   Letter
                   is
                   all
                   I
                   can
                   justly
                   Swear
                   except
                   my
                   Cozin
                   Smith
                   remember
                   a
                   word
                   ,
                   or
                   more
                   about
                   one
                   of
                   these
                   passages
                   ,
                   the
                   former
                   I
                   mean
                   ;
                   as
                   for
                   the
                   latter
                   ,
                   all
                   what
                   I
                   have
                   said
                   is
                   by
                   all
                   that
                   's
                   Sacred
                   ,
                   (
                   and
                   I
                   hope
                   't
                   is
                   no
                   offence
                   to
                   swear
                   to
                   the
                   Truth
                   )
                   all
                   ,
                   and
                   some
                   ,
                   I
                   say
                   ,
                   of
                   what
                   I
                   know
                   ,
                   if
                   it
                   were
                   the
                   last
                   moment
                   I
                   have
                   to
                   live
                   ,
                   I
                   could
                   confess
                   no
                   more
                   .
                
              
            
          
           
             
             
               
                 
                   
                     
                       The
                       information
                       of
                    
                     Robert
                     Jenison
                     of
                     Grays-Inn
                     
                       
                         Esq
                      
                       Son
                       of
                    
                     John
                     Jenison
                     ,
                     of
                     Walworth
                     
                       in
                       the
                       County
                       Palatine
                       of
                    
                     Durnam
                     ,
                     
                       
                         Esq
                      
                       taken
                       upon
                       Oath
                       this
                    
                     26th
                     .
                     
                       day
                       of
                    
                     June
                     ,
                     1679.
                     
                       before
                       me
                    
                     Edmund
                     Warcup
                     
                       
                         Esq
                      
                       one
                       of
                       his
                       Majesties
                       Justices
                       of
                       the
                       Peace
                       ,
                       in
                       the
                       County
                       of
                    
                     Middlesex
                     .
                  
                   
                     
                       Mid.
                       ss
                    
                     .
                     This
                     Informant
                     saith
                     ,
                     that
                     he
                     went
                     from
                     London
                     to
                     see
                     Windsor
                     ,
                     and
                     to
                     meet
                     Mr.
                     
                       Robert
                       Bowes
                    
                     ,
                     at
                     or
                     about
                     the
                     17th
                     .
                     of
                     August
                     last
                     past
                     ,
                     and
                     returned
                     back
                     to
                     London
                     the
                     19th
                     .
                     day
                     of
                     the
                     same
                     Month
                     ;
                     on
                     which
                     day
                     in
                     the
                     afternoon
                     ,
                     he
                     made
                     a
                     visit
                     to
                     Mr.
                     
                       William
                       Ireland
                    
                     ,
                     alias
                     Ironmonger
                     ,
                     at
                     his
                     Lodgings
                     in
                     Russel-Street
                     ,
                     who
                     was
                     this
                     Informants
                     Relation
                     ;
                     at
                     which
                     time
                     and
                     place
                     ,
                     he
                     (
                     this
                     Informant
                     )
                     had
                     the
                     discourse
                     with
                     the
                     said
                     Mr.
                     Ireland
                     ,
                     mentioned
                     and
                     contained
                     in
                     this
                     Informant
                     ;
                     Letter
                     to
                     the
                     said
                     Mr.
                     Bowes
                     ,
                     and
                     now
                     shewed
                     unto
                     him
                     ,
                     being
                     all
                     of
                     this
                     Informants
                     own
                     hand
                     writing
                     ,
                     dated
                     at
                     Reading
                     in
                     Barkshire
                     ,
                     on
                     the
                     19th
                     .
                     day
                     of
                     December
                     last
                     past
                     .
                     And
                     this
                     Informant
                     doth
                     very
                     well
                     remember
                     ,
                     that
                     he
                     went
                     from
                     London
                     into
                     the
                     North
                     ,
                     in
                     the
                     York
                     Coach
                     on
                     the
                     4th
                     .
                     day
                     of
                     September
                     last
                     past
                     ,
                     and
                     came
                     thence
                     back
                     to
                     London
                     ,
                     in
                     October
                     following
                     ;
                     and
                     thence
                     went
                     to
                     Reading
                     in
                     obedience
                     to
                     his
                     Majesties
                     Proclamation
                     ,
                     from
                     whence
                     he
                     wrote
                     the
                     Letter
                     aforesaid
                     to
                     Mr.
                     
                       Robert
                       Bowes
                    
                     ,
                     and
                     further
                     at
                     present
                     saith
                     not
                     .
                  
                   
                     
                       Reb.
                       Jenison
                       .
                    
                  
                   
                     
                       Jur.
                       die
                       &
                       anno
                       supr
                       .
                       dict
                       .
                       Cor.
                       me
                    
                     
                       
                         Edm.
                         Warcup
                         .
                      
                    
                  
                
                 
                   
                     
                       The
                       further
                       Information
                       of
                    
                     Rob.
                     Jenison
                     of
                     Grays-Inn
                     
                       
                         Esq
                      
                       taken
                       upon
                       Oath
                       this
                    
                     2d
                     .
                     
                       day
                       of
                    
                     July
                     ,
                     1679.
                     
                       before
                       me
                    
                     Edmund
                     Warcup
                     
                       
                         Esq
                      
                       one
                       of
                       his
                       Majesties
                       Justices
                       of
                       the
                       Peace
                       ,
                       in
                       the
                       County
                       of
                    
                     Middlesex
                     .
                  
                   
                     
                       Mid.
                       ss
                    
                     .
                     This
                     Informant
                     saith
                     ,
                     that
                     he
                     being
                     returned
                     from
                     Windsor
                     upon
                     the
                     19th
                     .
                     day
                     of
                     August
                     last
                     ,
                     went
                     to
                     Mr.
                     William
                     Ireland's
                     Lodging
                     in
                     Russel-Street
                     in
                     Covent-Garden
                     ,
                     to
                     visit
                     him
                     ;
                     and
                     passing
                     through
                     the
                     Entry
                     ,
                     went
                     directly
                     two
                     pair
                     of
                     Stairs
                     to
                     the
                     said
                     Mr.
                     William
                     Ireland's
                     Chamber
                     ,
                     the
                     Door
                     whereof
                     being
                     somewhat
                     open
                     ,
                     he
                     entred
                     ,
                     and
                     there
                     found
                     the
                     said
                     
                       William
                       Ireland
                    
                     ,
                     whom
                     this
                     Informant
                     having
                     told
                     ,
                     that
                     he
                     came
                     just
                     then
                     from
                     Windsor
                     upon
                     a
                     Hackney
                     Horse
                     ,
                     hired
                     at
                     
                       3s
                       .
                       per
                       diem
                    
                     ,
                     which
                     had
                     much
                     tired
                     him
                     ;
                     the
                     said
                     
                       William
                       Ireland
                    
                     replied
                     ,
                     that
                     he
                     was
                     then
                     newly
                     arrived
                     from
                     Wolverhampton
                     in
                     Staffordshire
                     by
                     Post
                     ,
                     and
                     was
                     not
                     weary
                     ;
                     Upon
                     which
                     this
                     Informant
                     replied
                     ,
                     that
                     he
                     thought
                     that
                     Scholars
                     ,
                     as
                     he
                     was
                     ,
                     had
                     rather
                     choose
                     to
                     ride
                     ambling
                     Horses
                     ,
                     than
                     to
                     ride
                     Post
                     .
                  
                   
                     And
                     this
                     Informant
                     further
                     saith
                     ,
                     that
                     he
                     very
                     well
                     remembers
                     ,
                     that
                     about
                     the
                     beginning
                     of
                     October
                     last
                     past
                     ,
                     Sir
                     
                       Edward
                       Smith
                    
                     came
                     to
                     Walworth
                     in
                     the
                     County
                     of
                     Durham
                     ,
                     and
                     then
                     read
                     a
                     Letter
                     newly
                     come
                     from
                     London
                     ,
                     purporting
                     the
                     discovery
                     of
                     the
                     Plot
                     ,
                     and
                     that
                     the
                     King
                     was
                     to
                     have
                     been
                     killed
                     at
                     Windsor
                     ;
                     which
                     made
                     this
                     Informant
                     call
                     to
                     mind
                     the
                     expressions
                     of
                     the
                     said
                     
                       William
                       Ireland
                    
                     ,
                     on
                     the
                     said
                     19th
                     .
                     day
                     of
                     August
                     ,
                     viz.
                     
                       Why
                       his
                       Majesty
                       should
                       be
                       so
                       thin
                       guarded
                       ,
                       he
                       was
                       easily
                       taken
                       off
                       or
                       removed
                       ,
                    
                     or
                     words
                     of
                     that
                     sounding
                     ,
                     &c.
                     
                     And
                     thereupon
                     this
                     Informant
                     did
                     the
                     next
                     day
                     after
                     the
                     reading
                     of
                     the
                     said
                     Letter
                     ,
                     relate
                     all
                     the
                     passages
                     between
                     this
                     Informant
                     and
                     the
                     said
                     Mr.
                     Ireland
                     ,
                     to
                     this
                     Informants
                     Father
                     ,
                     and
                     the
                     said
                     Mr.
                     Smith
                     ,
                     as
                     they
                     are
                     contained
                     in
                     this
                     Informants
                     Letter
                     to
                     Mr.
                     Bowes
                     ,
                     dated
                     on
                     the
                     19th
                     .
                     day
                     of
                     December
                     last
                     ;
                     and
                     so
                     the
                     said
                     Mr.
                     Smith
                     hath
                     lately
                     by
                     Letter
                     signified
                     to
                     the
                     said
                     Mr.
                     Bowes
                     .
                     And
                     this
                     Informant
                     further
                     saith
                     ,
                     that
                     in
                     the
                     year
                     1678.
                     several
                     Papists
                     have
                     in
                     this
                     Informants
                     hearing
                     declared
                     ,
                     that
                     they
                     doubted
                     not
                     ,
                     but
                     their
                     Religion
                     would
                     shortly
                     be
                     uppermost
                     ,
                     or
                     to
                     that
                     effect
                     ;
                     And
                     further
                     at
                     present
                     he
                     saith
                     not
                     .
                  
                
              
            
          
        
         
           
             
               Observations
               deducible
               from
               the
               aforesaid
            
             Letter
             and
             Testimony
             ,
             
               and
               from
               the
               manner
               of
               obtaining
               the
               same
               .
            
          
           
             1.
             
             It
             is
             a
             remarkable
             instance
             of
             Divine
             providence
             ,
             that
             this
             latent
             evidence
             casually
             discovered
             to
             Mr.
             Chetwind
             (
             when
             he
             had
             not
             known
             or
             heard
             of
             Mr.
             Jenison
             )
             should
             be
             thus
             recovered
             by
             him
             ;
             and
             that
             in
             his
             pursuit
             thereof
             ,
             so
             many
             worthy
             Persons
             likewise
             unknown
             ,
             should
             accidentally
             occur
             to
             him
             ,
             and
             contribute
             their
             great
             assistance
             .
          
           
             2.
             
             The
             '
             foresaid
             Mr.
             Jenison
             at
             the
             writing
             of
             his
             Letter
             to
             Mr.
             Bowes
             was
             of
             the
             
               Romish
               Church
            
             ,
             and
             in
             obedience
             to
             the
             Kings
             Proclamation
             for
             Banishing
             Papists
             out
             of
             London
             ,
             had
             retired
             from
             London
             to
             Reading
             ,
             so
             that
             the
             Discovery
             made
             by
             his
             Letter
             cannot
             rationally
             be
             imputed
             to
             any
             other
             inducement
             ,
             or
             incitement
             ,
             save
             only
             the
             Power
             of
             Truth
             ;
             especially
             considering
             that
             Mr.
             Ireland
             was
             related
             to
             him
             .
          
           
           
             3.
             
             The
             main
             Plot
             is
             evidently
             confirmed
             ,
             not
             only
             by
             the
             Papists
             expecting
             some
             great
             Change
             and
             Alteration
             ,
             mentioned
             in
             one
             of
             Mr
             Jenisons
             Informations
             ,
             given
             in
             upon
             his
             Oath
             ,
             but
             also
             by
             those
             suspicious
             Questions
             proposed
             by
             the
             said
             Ireland
             to
             Mr.
             Jenison
             after
             his
             return
             from
             Windsor
             to
             London
             ,
             as
             ,
             
               What
               news
               from
               Windsor
               ?
               How
               is
               the
               King
               guarded
               ?
            
             And
             especially
             those
             Dangerous
             Words
             of
             his
             ,
             
               Then
               he
               may
               easily
               be
               taken
               off
               ,
            
             or
             to
             that
             effect
             ;
             which
             do
             sufficiently
             argue
             ,
             not
             only
             his
             being
             Privy
             to
             the
             Design
             ,
             but
             go
             far
             to
             prove
             his
             being
             an
             Instrument
             therein
             .
          
           
             4.
             
             For
             the
             Readers
             fuller
             satisfaction
             concerning
             this
             Subject
             ,
             these
             Particulars
             are
             to
             be
             noted
             ,
             viz.
             
          
           
             That
             the
             King
             went
             to
             Windsor
             about
             the
             13th
             of
             August
             1678.
             as
             appears
             by
             Sir
             
               Tho.
               Dolemans
            
             Testimony
             at
             the
             Tryals
             .
          
           
             That
             Mr.
             Jenison
             came
             from
             Windsor
             the
             19th
             of
             August
             ,
             and
             went
             into
             the
             North
             the
             4th
             of
             September
             following
             .
          
           
             As
             to
             the
             Latter
             ,
             his
             going
             into
             the
             North
             ,
             the
             Books
             of
             Entries
             of
             Passengers
             in
             the
             Northern
             Coach
             have
             been
             examined
             ,
             and
             the
             4th
             of
             September
             is
             found
             to
             be
             the
             very
             day
             he
             took
             Coach
             for
             the
             North
             at
             London
             ;
             his
             going
             to
             Windsor
             is
             proved
             by
             Mr.
             Burnet
             ,
             who
             met
             him
             the
             17th
             of
             August
             as
             he
             came
             from
             Dochets
             Horse-race
             ,
             which
             was
             on
             that
             day
             .
          
           
             That
             Mr.
             Jenison
             in
             his
             Letter
             writes
             thus
             ,
             
               Being
               come
               from
               Windsor
               ,
               I
               went
               to
               take
               my
               leave
               of
               Mr.
               Ireland
               before
               I
               took
               my
               journy
               into
               the
               North
               ,
               and
               Mr.
               Ireland
               asked
               me
               what
               News
               from
               Windsor
               ?
               How
               does
               the
               King
               pass
               his
               time
               ?
            
             &c.
             Which
             notoriously
             proves
             ,
             that
             his
             Discourse
             with
             Mr.
             Ireland
             ,
             was
             when
             the
             King
             was
             at
             Windsor
             ,
             and
             also
             that
             it
             was
             after
             Mr.
             Jenison
             came
             from
             Windsor
             ,
             and
             before
             he
             went
             into
             the
             
               North
               ,
               viz.
            
             betwixt
             the
             19th
             of
             August
             and
             the
             4th
             of
             September
             ,
             and
             it
             implies
             that
             it
             was
             immediately
             after
             his
             coming
             from
             Windsor
             ,
             by
             the
             question
             ,
             
               What
               news
               from
               Windsor
            
             ?
             and
             seems
             also
             to
             intimate
             ,
             that
             Mr.
             Ireland
             had
             not
             long
             been
             in
             London
             ,
             as
             being
             eager
             of
             News
             from
             Windsor
             ,
             which
             at
             that
             time
             he
             might
             if
             resident
             in
             London
             have
             had
             every
             2d
             Day
             by
             
             Bedingfield's
             ,
             and
             other
             Letters
             .
             That
             this
             time
             does
             nearly
             agree
             with
             Sarah
             Pain
             's
             Evidence
             at
             Irelands
             Trial
             ,
             who
             swears
             that
             she
             saw
             Ireland
             here
             in
             London
             about
             the
             Time
             the
             King
             went
             to
             Windsor
             ;
             and
             there
             is
             not
             above
             5
             or
             6
             Days
             difference
             ,
             see
             Whitebreads
             Trial
             ,
             Fol.
             87.
             
             There
             as
             Gavan
             repeats
             their
             Evidence
             ,
             Sir
             
               Jo.
               Southcot
            
             and
             his
             Family
             staid
             with
             Ireland
             till
             the
             19th
             .
             which
             19th
             was
             the
             very
             day
             he
             came
             Post
             from
             Staffordshire
             to
             London
             ,
             and
             was
             seen
             by
             Mr.
             Jenison
             .
          
           
             That
             Ireland
             was
             tryed
             the
             17th
             of
             December
             ,
             and
             Mr.
             Jenisons
             Letter
             was
             writ
             from
             Reading
             the
             19th
             following
             ;
             and
             it
             is
             clear
             by
             the
             Letter
             ,
             that
             Mr.
             Jenison
             had
             then
             no
             notice
             of
             Irelands
             being
             tryed
             .
          
           
             That
             Mr.
             Smith
             (
             a
             Priest
             )
             hath
             since
             by
             his
             Letter
             to
             Mr.
             Bowes
             confirmed
             the
             Truth
             of
             what
             Mr.
             Jenison
             relates
             ,
             viz.
             That
             he
             told
             his
             Father
             and
             Him
             at
             his
             Fathers
             House
             at
             Walworth
             ,
             immediately
             upon
             the
             first
             Discovery
             of
             the
             Plot
             those
             very
             Words
             Mr.
             Ireland
             had
             spoken
             to
             him
             ;
             then
             certainly
             it
             remains
             scarcely
             possible
             to
             imagin
             that
             unless
             the
             matter
             were
             exactly
             true
             ,
             Mr.
             Jenison
             ,
             a
             Gentleman
             of
             a
             very
             fair
             Temper
             and
             Sober
             life
             ,
             should
             report
             such
             Words
             as
             delivered
             by
             Mr.
             Ireland
             ,
             his
             Kinsman
             ,
             and
             a
             Kinsman
             very
             dear
             in
             his
             esteem
             ,
             and
             report
             them
             to
             his
             own
             Father
             old
             Mr.
             Jenison
             and
             Mr.
             Smith
             ,
             and
             that
             at
             that
             time
             when
             they
             were
             all
             Romanists
             ,
             and
             Ireland
             highly
             valued
             by
             them
             all
             ;
             nor
             is
             it
             less
             absurd
             to
             conceive
             ,
             that
             Mr.
             Smith
             ,
             as
             is
             said
             ,
             a
             Priest
             as
             Ireland
             was
             ,
             should
             confirm
             the
             Words
             of
             Mr.
             Jenison
             ,
             so
             long
             after
             spoken
             ,
             and
             that
             when
             to
             witness
             to
             them
             ,
             was
             even
             to
             cut
             the
             throat
             of
             Irelands
             Reputation
             and
             Truth
             ,
             and
             give
             a
             very
             severe
             stab
             to
             the
             Romish
             Cause
             .
             Certainly
             the
             thing
             seems
             to
             look
             as
             it
             writ
             with
             a
             Sun-beam
             .
          
           
             5.
             
             It
             appears
             then
             an
             undeniable
             Truth
             ,
             that
             Mr
             Ireland
             was
             in
             London
             the
             12th
             or
             13th
             of
             August
             1678.
             and
             thence
             taking
             a
             journey
             into
             Staffordshire
             ;
             he
             returned
             and
             was
             seen
             in
             London
             and
             discoursed
             by
             Mr.
             Jenison
             the
             19th
             of
             the
             same
             Month
             ,
             from
             whence
             't
             is
             probable
             ,
             having
             transacted
             something
             of
             
               the
               Matter
               in
               Hand
            
             ,
             he
             might
             immediately
             return
             .
          
           
             Neither
             do
             I
             know
             any
             rational
             Objection
             against
             the
             clearness
             of
             the
             truth
             evidenced
             thereby
             ,
             unless
             the
             three
             following
             Objections
             weigh
             with
             some
             .
          
           
             Obj.
             1.
             
             The
             credit
             and
             quality
             of
             some
             of
             the
             Witnesses
             ,
             who
             testifie
             ,
             they
             saw
             Mr.
             Ireland
             in
             Staffordshire
             on
             those
             Days
             ,
             wherein
             he
             is
             affirmed
             to
             have
             been
             in
             London
             .
          
           
             Ans
             .
             To
             this
             I
             shall
             only
             answer
             ,
             that
             the
             Credit
             of
             the
             Witnesses
             ,
             of
             both
             sides
             may
             be
             so
             far
             salved
             ,
             as
             t
             is
             possible
             to
             affirm
             ,
             one
             and
             the
             same
             person
             may
             be
             in
             London
             and
             Stafforshire
             some
             part
             of
             the
             same
             Day
             ;
             the
             distance
             being
             not
             so
             great
             betwixt
             both
             
             Places
             ,
             but
             the
             journy
             (
             especially
             by
             Post
             )
             may
             be
             easily
             performed
             ;
             neither
             is
             it
             improbable
             ,
             that
             Mr.
             Ireland
             ,
             who
             was
             so
             actively
             concerned
             in
             the
             Plot
             ,
             and
             in
             the
             nature
             of
             a
             Treasurer
             therein
             ,
             should
             have
             frequent
             occasion
             to
             travel
             by
             Day
             and
             by
             Night
             betwixt
             London
             and
             Staffordshire
             ,
             his
             Presence
             being
             equally
             necessary
             to
             both
             places
             ,
             especially
             in
             such
             a
             critical
             time
             of
             Expectancy
             ,
             as
             that
             of
             the
             Kings
             being
             at
             Windsor
             then
             wa●
             .
             Add
             hereunto
             ,
             that
             Mr.
             Ireland
             himself
             confessed
             in
             his
             Discourse
             with
             Mr.
             Jenison
             ,
             that
             he
             had
             rode
             post
             from
             Staffordshire
             to
             London
             that
             day
             ,
             yet
             was
             not
             weary
             :
             a
             journey
             ,
             which
             many
             other
             Persons
             have
             performed
             in
             less
             then
             the
             space
             of
             one
             Day
             ,
             part
             of
             the
             Night
             being
             also
             ,
             in
             that
             usually
             very
             hot
             month
             of
             August
             ,
             more
             convenient
             for
             travelling
             then
             the
             Day
             ;
             now
             If
             such
             a
             Journey
             were
             undertaken
             by
             Ireland
             one
             day
             ?
             why
             not
             another
             ?
             why
             not
             many
             days
             ,
             according
             as
             the
             Urgency
             of
             his
             grand
             Affairs
             ,
             and
             the
             teeming
             pregnancy
             of
             them
             might
             require
             ?
          
           
             Obj.
             2.
             
             If
             this
             Evidence
             be
             true
             ,
             why
             was
             it
             not
             produced
             before
             ,
             or
             at
             the
             Tryal
             of
             Whitebread
             ,
             &c.
             being
             so
             material
             for
             the
             clearing
             of
             the
             Truth
             ?
          
           
             Ans
             .
             The
             matter
             was
             a
             long
             time
             kept
             secret
             in
             the
             Breasts
             of
             young
             Mr.
             Jenison
             and
             his
             Father
             ,
             being
             both
             
               (
               then
            
             )
             Romanists
             ,
             and
             Smith
             a
             Priest
             ,
             and
             secured
             from
             the
             knowledge
             of
             any
             Protestant
             ;
             neither
             did
             Mr.
             Bowes
             receive
             Mr.
             Jenisons
             letter
             of
             Discovery
             (
             though
             often
             pressed
             by
             him
             to
             declare
             his
             Knowledge
             ,
             upon
             the
             Kings
             Proclamation
             of
             Pardon
             )
             till
             
               December
               19th
            
             1678.
             which
             was
             two
             days
             after
             the
             Tryal
             of
             Ireland
             ,
             Now
             the
             matter
             having
             received
             it's
             Determination
             in
             the
             Arraignment
             and
             Condemnation
             of
             the
             said
             Ireland
             ,
             no
             probability
             appearing
             ,
             that
             it
             would
             be
             again
             resumed
             and
             reinsisted
             on
             ,
             no
             further
             Divulgation
             was
             made
             thereof
             ;
             And
             unless
             new
             provocation
             had
             been
             given
             by
             reviving
             the
             matter
             at
             Whitebreads
             Tryal
             ,
             it
             had
             possibly
             lain
             asleep
             for
             ever
             ;
             so
             that
             what
             of
             Indecency
             may
             be
             imputed
             in
             combating
             the
             Ghost
             of
             the
             deceased
             is
             more
             properly
             referrable
             to
             the
             importunate
             arguings
             or
             instances
             of
             his
             surviving
             Friends
             ,
             then
             then
             even
             to
             the
             just
             Vindication
             of
             the
             Truth
             .
          
           
             Obj.
             3.
             
             The
             confident
             asseveration
             of
             the
             said
             Ireland
             ,
             and
             the
             solemn
             protestation
             of
             his
             innocency
             ,
             and
             of
             his
             continuing
             in
             Staffordshire
             the
             days
             he
             was
             alledged
             to
             be
             here
             in
             London
             ,
             shall
             have
             the
             room
             of
             the
             third
             and
             last
             objection
             .
          
           
             
               Ans
               .
               1st
            
             .
             I
             confess
             this
             had
             not
             a
             little
             influence
             upon
             me
             ;
             for
             I
             acknowledge
             myself
             subject
             to
             the
             compassionate
             sentiments
             of
             humane
             nature
             ;
             but
             the
             same
             evidence
             above
             mentioned
             which
             convinced
             me
             ,
             will
             I
             doubt
             not
             ,
             banish
             all
             hesitation
             as
             to
             this
             matter
             from
             the
             minds
             of
             others
             ,
             except
             of
             those
             ,
             who
             out
             of
             guilt
             or
             interest
             are
             resolved
             to
             shut
             the
             door
             against
             all
             kind
             of
             satisfaction
             whatsoever
             .
          
           
             2
             How
             far
             equivocations
             ,
             falsities
             ,
             mental
             reserves
             ,
             and
             other
             Salvoes
             may
             be
             allowed
             ,
             even
             to
             dying
             persons
             ,
             in
             the
             
               Roman
               Church
            
             ,
             provided
             they
             contribute
             to
             the
             advancement
             of
             the
             Catholick
             Cause
             ,
             as
             they
             phrase
             it
             ,
             would
             require
             a
             large
             field
             of
             discourse
             ;
             but
             the
             clearness
             of
             the
             Evidence
             justifying
             Mr.
             
             Ireland's
             being
             in
             London
             ,
             notwithstanding
             his
             and
             his
             witnesses
             affirmations
             to
             the
             contrary
             ,
             doth
             give
             just
             ground
             of
             scruple
             ,
             that
             a
             large
             freedom
             is
             allowed
             to
             them
             on
             that
             account
             ;
             but
             it
             would
             be
             too
             tedious
             to
             turn
             over
             the
             Popish
             Casuists
             ,
             for
             the
             deciding
             of
             that
             controversie
             ;
             leaving
             therefore
             the
             Scholastical
             and
             skirmishing
             part
             to
             abler
             pens
             ,
             I
             shall
             content
             my self
             to
             exhibit
             one
             passage
             (
             relating
             to
             the
             matter
             in
             hand
             )
             mentioned
             in
             a
             Book
             called
             the
             Jesuits
             Catechism
             ,
             composed
             (
             almost
             60
             years
             since
             )
             by
             a
             Member
             of
             the
             
               Roman
               Church
            
             ,
             but
             not
             of
             the
             Ignatian
             Order
             .
             His
             words
             mentioned
             ,
             lib.
             3.
             
             Cap.
             12.
             at
             the
             end
             of
             that
             Chapter
             are
             there
             .
             They
             (
             says
             he
             ,
             speaking
             of
             the
             
               Jesuits
               )
               have
               a
               rule
               in
               practice
               ,
               that
               men
               are
               bound
               to
               accuse
               themselves
               to
               their
               Confessors
               ,
               and
               not
               themselves
               only
               ,
               but
               all
               their
               Confederates
               also
               ;
               and
               (
               for
               the
               Magistrate
               )
               the
               Malefactor
               being
               condemned
               to
               die
               ,
               after
               he
               hath
               once
               made
               Confession
               of
               his
               sins
               to
               his
               Ghostly
               Father
               ,
               he
               is
               not
               tied
               to
               reveal
               it
               to
               his
               Judge
               ,
               nay
               it
               is
               lawful
               for
               him
               to
               stand
               in
               stiff
               denial
               thereof
               at
               the
               time
               of
               his
               Execution
               ,
               as
               being
               clear
               before
               God
               ,
               though
               he
               persist
               in
               a
               lie
               ,
               after
               he
               hath
               once
               discharged
               the
               depth
               of
               his
               conscience
               to
               his
               Confessor
               .
               A
               thing
               (
               that
               the
               same
               Author
               subjoyns
               )
               that
               breedeth
               much
               scruple
               in
               the
               mind
               of
               a
               Judge
               ,
               who
               otherwise
               is
               greatly
               quieted
               in
               conscience
               ,
               when
               an
               offender
               adjudged
               to
               die
               ,
               howsoever
               he
               have
               beforetime
               stood
               in
               denial
               of
               the
               Fact
               ,
               yet
               at
               the
               time
               of
               his
               death
               confesseth
               the
               Truth
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             
               An
               Abstract
               of
               the
            
             Material
             Passages
             
               at
               the
               Trials
               of
               Mr.
            
             Ireland
             
               and
               Mr.
            
             Whitebread
             ,
             
               relating
               to
               Mr.
            
             Ireland
             
               's
               being
               in
            
             London
             
               about
               the
               middle
               of
            
             August
             1678.
             
               tending
               to
               clear
               much
               of
               the
               matter
               of
               Fact
               mentioned
               in
               the
               foregoing
               Papers
               .
            
          
           
             The
             things
             for
             which
             Ireland
             was
             indicted
             ,
             were
             ,
             
               The
               conspiring
               the
               King's
               Death
               ;
               also
               ,
               That
               he
               did
               indeavour
               and
               contrive
               to
               change
               and
               alter
               the
               Religion
               established
               in
            
             
             
               the
               Nation
               ,
               and
               introduce
               Popery
               in
               the
               room
               of
               it
               .
            
             (
             pag.
             13.
             of
             
             Ireland's
             Trial
             )
             And
             in
             order
             thereunto
             that
             Pickering
             and
             Grove
             should
             assassinate
             the
             King
             (
             p.
             19.
             )
             which
             Resolve
             Ireland
             signed
             about
             the
             24th
             of
             April
             .
             1678.
             (
             p.
             19
             ,
             20.
             )
             Pickering
             and
             Grove
             failing
             ,
             in
             August
             following
             ,
             Mr.
             Ireland
             and
             others
             met
             at
             
             Harcourt's
             Chamber
             ,
             and
             their
             held
             a
             close
             Consultation
             how
             to
             accomplish
             their
             Design
             of
             killing
             the
             King
             ,
             which
             they
             determin
             should
             be
             by
             Four
             Russians
             ,
             whom
             they
             actually
             hire
             and
             dispatch
             away
             to
             Windsor
             ,
             in
             order
             to
             the
             accomplishing
             that
             most
             Barbarous
             and
             most
             Treasonable
             Project
             :
             where
             Dr.
             Oates
             saw
             Mr.
             Ireland
             present
             .
             
               (
               p.
            
             26.
             and
             40.
             )
             The
             Russians
             also
             failing
             to
             kill
             the
             King
             at
             Windsor
             ,
             they
             determin
             ,
             That
             Pickering
             and
             Grove
             should
             go
             on
             ,
             and
             that
             Conyers
             should
             be
             joyned
             with
             them
             ,
             to
             Assassinate
             the
             King
             in
             his
             Morning-walks
             at
             New-Market
             ;
             this
             they
             had
             taken
             so
             strongly
             upon
             them
             that
             they
             were
             very
             eager
             to
             accomplish
             it
             .
             
               (
               p.
            
             41.
             )
             These
             things
             Ireland
             was
             accused
             of
             by
             Mr.
             Bedlce
             ;
             Dr.
             Oates
             affirming
             that
             he
             took
             his
             leave
             of
             Mr.
             Ireland
             in
             his
             own
             Chamber
             between
             the
             Twelfth
             and
             Four
             and
             twentieth
             of
             
               August
               ,
               Ireland
            
             being
             then
             Writing
             a
             Letter
             as
             Dated
             from
             St.
             Omers
             ,
             and
             that
             afterward
             when
             Dr.
             Oates
             went
             to
             Fenwicks
             Chamber
             ,
             Ireland
             came
             thither
             also
             ;
             so
             that
             he
             saw
             him
             twice
             about
             a
             Fortnight
             within
             August
             .
             (
             p.
             60.
             )
             
               Sarah
               Pain
            
             Confirmed
             both
             their
             Evidence
             by
             Swearing
             ,
             that
             she
             saw
             him
             about
             the
             same
             time
             at
             the
             Door
             of
             his
             own
             House
             :
             
               (
               p.
            
             57.
             )
             These
             things
             Mr.
             Ireland
             denys
             ,
             and
             indeavours
             to
             disprove
             their
             Evidence
             only
             as
             to
             time
             ,
             because
             not
             in
             London
             in
             August
             last
             ,
             
               (
               i.
               e.
            
             in
             
               A.
               D.
            
             1678.
             )
             but
             in
             
               Staffordshire
               ;
               (
               p.
            
             46.
             and
             56.
             )
             and
             this
             he
             attempts
             chiefly
             to
             prove
             against
             Dr.
             Oates
             ,
             in
             Order
             to
             the
             Nullifying
             his
             Evidence
             ,
             and
             so
             confidently
             affirms
             himself
             not
             in
             London
             ,
             for
             the
             whole
             of
             that
             August
             ,
             this
             he
             offers
             to
             prove
             by
             Twenty
             Witnesses
             ,
             
               (
               p.
            
             44.
             and
             56.
             )
             and
             says
             ,
             First
             ,
             he
             would
             indeavour
             to
             prove
             that
             there
             was
             not
             Two
             Witnesses
             against
             him
             ;
             for
             that
             which
             Mr.
             Oates
             said
             of
             his
             being
             at
             Harcourts
             Chamber
             in
             August
             ,
             was
             false
             for
             he
             was
             all
             August
             long
             out
             of
             Town
             in
             Staffordshire
             ;
             upon
             the
             Third
             Day
             he
             went
             down
             to
             Staffordshire
             ,
             with
             my
             Lord
             Aston
             ,
             and
             his
             Lady
             ,
             and
             his
             Son
             ,
             and
             Sir
             
               John
               Southcot
            
             ,
             and
             his
             Lady
             ;
             and
             saith
             he
             ,
             all
             these
             can
             Testify
             that
             I
             went
             down
             with
             them
             ,
             here
             is
             Mr.
             
               John
               Aston
            
             in
             Town
             ,
             if
             he
             may
             be
             found
             ,
             who
             was
             in
             my
             Company
             all
             August
             in
             
               Staffordshire
               ,
               (
               p.
            
             56.
             )
          
           
             But
             to
             save
             him
             that
             Labour
             ,
             the
             Kings
             Evidence
             offered
             to
             prove
             that
             he
             was
             in
             Town
             at
             that
             time
             ,
             for
             which
             they
             Swore
             
               Sarah
               Pain
            
             ,
             who
             affirmed
             she
             knew
             Mr.
             Ireland
             ,
             and
             that
             she
             saw
             him
             in
             Town
             in
             August
             last
             at
             his
             own
             House
             ,
             (
             which
             was
             at
             a
             Scriveners
             in
             Russel-street
             in
             
               Covent
               Garden
            
             )
             about
             a
             week
             before
             she
             went
             with
             my
             Lord
             Arlington
             to
             Windsor
             ,
             which
             was
             about
             a
             week
             after
             the
             King
             was
             gone
             thither
             ;
             which
             Sir
             
               Tho.
               Doloman
            
             said
             ,
             was
             about
             the
             13th
             of
             August
             .
             How
             she
             knew
             him
             ,
             was
             ,
             because
             he
             came
             often
             to
             her
             Masters
             house
             ,
             that
             was
             Mr.
             Groves
             ,
             the
             Person
             Condemned
             with
             him
             ,
             averring
             that
             he
             was
             the
             Man
             that
             broke
             open
             the
             Pacquet
             of
             Letters
             ,
             That
             her
             Master
             carried
             about
             aterwards
             ;
             and
             he
             Sealed
             all
             the
             Pacquets
             that
             went
             beyond
             the
             Seas
             ,
             and
             he
             opend
             them
             still
             when
             the
             Answers
             returned
             them
             back
             again
             .
             p.
             57.
             
          
           
             Against
             whose
             Evidence
             he
             opposed
             that
             of
             his
             Sister
             
               Ann
               Ireland
            
             ,
             and
             his
             Mother
             
               Elinor
               Ireland
            
             ,
             who
             both
             said
             ,
             that
             on
             Saturday
             the
             Third
             of
             August
             he
             set
             out
             to
             go
             into
             Staffordshire
             ,
             and
             he
             continued
             there
             till
             it
             was
             a
             Fortnight
             before
             Michaelmas
             ,
             which
             (
             says
             the
             Sister
             )
             I
             remembered
             by
             a
             very
             good
             Circumstance
             ,
             because
             on
             the
             Wednesday
             before
             ,
             my
             Brother
             ,
             and
             my
             Mother
             and
             I
             were
             invited
             out
             to
             Dinner
             ,
             we
             staid
             there
             all
             night
             ,
             and
             all
             Thursday
             night
             ,
             and
             Friday
             night
             my
             Brother
             came
             home
             ,
             and
             on
             Saturday
             de
             set
             out
             for
             Staffordshire
             .
             p.
             58
             ,
             59.
             
          
           
             
               Sarah
               Pain
            
             being
             again
             asked
             ,
             if
             she
             was
             sure
             that
             she
             saw
             him
             in
             the
             Place
             she
             mentioned
             ,
             and
             about
             the
             time
             ?
             She
             answered
             ,
             yes
             ,
             I
             am
             sure
             I
             saw
             him
             at
             that
             very
             Place
             and
             at
             that
             time
             ;
             but
             Mr.
             Ireland
             then
             confidently
             professed
             he
             never
             knew
             her
             ,
             although
             she
             was
             Mr.
             
               Groves
               Servant
            
             ,
             and
             used
             to
             carry
             him
             Letters
             from
             her
             Master
             's
             ;
             his
             words
             are
             ,
             
               I
               profess
               I
               do
               not
               know
               her
               ,
            
             20
             
               people
               may
               come
               to
               me
               ,
               and
               yet
               I
               not
               know
               them
               ,
               and
               she
               having
               been
            
             Mr.
             Groves
             
               servant
               might
               have
               brought
               me
               Letters
               ,
               and
               yet
               I
               not
               remember
               her
               .
            
             p.
             58
             ,
             59.
             
          
           
             But
             my
             
               L.
               C.
               Justice
            
             thus
             recapitulates
             
               Sarah
               Pains
            
             Evidence
             against
             him
             :
             she
             says
             that
             she
             saw
             you
             in
             London
             about
             the
             10th
             or
             12th
             of
             August
             ,
             and
             she
             makes
             it
             out
             by
             a
             Circumstance
             ,
             which
             is
             better
             Evidence
             ,
             then
             if
             she
             had
             come
             and
             Swore
             the
             precise
             day
             wherein
             she
             saw
             you
             ;
             for
             I
             should
             not
             have
             been
             satisfied
             ,
             unless
             she
             had
             given
             me
             a
             good
             account
             why
             she
             did
             know
             it
             to
             be
             such
             a
             Day
             .
             She
             does
             it
             by
             Circumstance
             ,
             by
             which
             we
             must
             calculate
             she
             saw
             you
             about
             the
             12th
             or
             13th
             day
             ;
             she
             went
             to
             my
             Lord
             Arlingtons
             at
             such
             a
             day
             ,
             a
             week
             after
             the
             King
             went
             to
             Windsor
             ,
             and
             that
             was
             about
             the
             
             13th
             ,
             and
             she
             saw
             you
             a
             week
             before
             she
             went
             to
             my
             Lord
             Arlingtons
             ,
             which
             must
             be
             the
             12th
             or
             13th
             .
             You
             say
             you
             went
             out
             of
             Town
             the
             3d
             of
             August
             ,
             who
             can
             Swear
             you
             did
             not
             come
             back
             again
             ?
             To
             which
             Ireland
             says
             ,
             all
             the
             house
             can
             testify
             I
             did
             not
             come
             to
             my
             Lodging
             ;
             his
             Mother
             also
             affirmed
             it
             ,
             but
             they
             were
             Parties
             .
             p.
             59.
             
          
           
             Dr.
             Oates
             ,
             here
             comes
             in
             with
             his
             Information
             ,
             and
             reports
             it
             to
             my
             Lord
             
               C.
               Justice
            
             thus
             .
          
           
             My
             Lord
             ,
             whenever
             we
             had
             a
             mind
             to
             come
             to
             Town
             ,
             we
             commonly
             writ
             our
             Letters
             ,
             and
             let
             them
             come
             to
             Town
             two
             days
             after
             us
             ;
             so
             that
             we
             might
             prove
             by
             the
             Writing
             of
             such
             Letters
             ,
             if
             any
             Question
             did
             arise
             ;
             that
             we
             could
             not
             be
             at
             such
             a
             Place
             at
             a
             such
             time
             ;
             And
             when
             we
             pretended
             to
             go
             into
             the
             Country
             ,
             we
             have
             gon
             and
             taken
             a
             Chamber
             in
             the
             City
             ,
             and
             have
             had
             frequent
             Cabals
             at
             our
             Chambers
             .
             There
             Mr.
             Ireland
             writ
             a
             Letter
             as
             Dated
             at
             St.
             Omers
             ,
             when
             I
             took
             my
             leave
             of
             him
             at
             his
             own
             Chamber
             ,
             which
             was
             betwixt
             the
             12th
             and
             24th
             in
             London
             ;
             he
             was
             there
             ;
             and
             afterwards
             when
             I
             went
             to
             Fenwicks
             Chamber
             he
             came
             thither
             ,
             a
             Fortnight
             or
             Ten
             Days
             at
             least
             ,
             I
             am
             sure
             it
             was
             in
             
               August
               .
               —
               p.
            
             60.
             
          
           
             Upon
             which
             ,
             and
             what
             went
             before
             my
             Lord
             
               Ch.
               Justice
            
             Reflects
             as
             follows
             .
          
           
             Here
             are
             3
             Witnesses
             upon
             Oath
             about
             this
             one
             thing
             :
             Here
             is
             Mr.
             Bedloe
             ,
             that
             Swears
             the
             Fact
             upon
             which
             the
             Question
             arises
             to
             be
             in
             August
             ;
             that
             you
             deny
             ,
             and
             say
             you
             were
             out
             of
             Town
             then
             ;
             he
             produces
             a
             Maid
             here
             ,
             and
             she
             Swears
             that
             about
             that
             time
             ,
             which
             by
             Calculation
             must
             be
             about
             the
             12th
             or
             13th
             ,
             she
             saw
             you
             going
             into
             your
             own
             house
             .
             And
             here
             is
             a
             3d
             Witness
             ,
             who
             Swears
             he
             knows
             nothing
             of
             the
             matter
             of
             Fact
             ,
             but
             he
             knows
             you
             were
             in
             Town
             then
             ,
             and
             that
             he
             took
             his
             leave
             of
             you
             as
             going
             to
             St.
             
               Omers
               .
               p.
            
             60.
             
          
           
             In
             the
             next
             place
             Ireland
             produceth
             one
             Harrison
             ,
             a
             Coachman
             ,
             to
             testifie
             that
             he
             was
             in
             his
             Company
             from
             the
             5th
             of
             August
             to
             the
             16th
             ,
             and
             at
             that
             time
             he
             was
             with
             him
             3
             or
             4
             days
             at
             my
             Lord
             Astons
             House
             at
             Tixall
             in
             
               Staffordshire
               ,
               p
            
             ,
             62.
             
             [
             In
             which
             time
             Mr.
             Ireland
             might
             easily
             steal
             a
             Journey
             to
             London
             ,
             and
             return
             without
             notice
             being
             taken
             of
             it
             ;
             and
             this
             might
             be
             the
             time
             in
             which
             
               Sarah
               Pain
            
             saw
             him
             .
             ]
             Also
             Harrison
             affirmed
             that
             he
             was
             with
             Mr.
             Ireland
             at
             Westchester
             ,
             and
             that
             there
             he
             left
             him
             ;
             [
             And
             here
             let
             it
             be
             remembred
             that
             Mr.
             Ireland
             confidently
             averred
             himself
             to
             be
             in
             Staffordshire
             all
             
               August
               ,
               p.
            
             56.
             and
             one
             of
             his
             own
             Witnesses
             declared
             him
             to
             be
             even
             in
             another
             County
             ,
             which
             he
             granted
             to
             be
             true
             ,
             but
             came
             off
             with
             this
             Evasion
             ,
             in
             
               Staffordshire
               or
               thereabout
               .
               P.
            
             61
             ,
             62.
             ]
          
        
         
           
             
               You
               may
               here
               take
               a
               view
               of
            
             Irelands
             
               Dying
               Words
               ,
               concerning
               the
               thing
               in
               Hand
               ,
               delivered
            
             January
             24.
             
               at
               the
               Common
               Place
               of
               Execution
               .
            
          
           
             We
             are
             come
             hither
             upon
             the
             Theatre
             of
             the
             World
             ,
             and
             we
             do
             conceive
             we
             lye
             under
             an
             obligation
             to
             speak
             .
             And
             1st
             we
             do
             confess
             that
             we
             do
             pardon
             all
             and
             every
             one
             whatsoever
             that
             had
             any
             Interest
             or
             Concern
             ,
             or
             Hand
             in
             the
             taking
             away
             our
             Lives
             .
             2dly
             .
             We
             do
             here
             profess
             and
             acknowledge
             ,
             we
             are
             obliged
             ,
             that
             if
             we
             were
             Guilty
             of
             any
             Treason
             ,
             or
             knew
             any
             Person
             faulty
             therein
             ,
             although
             he
             were
             our
             Father
             ,
             we
             would
             detect
             and
             discover
             him
             .
             And
             as
             for
             our Selves
             ,
             we
             would
             beg
             a
             thousand
             and
             a
             thousand
             Pardons
             both
             of
             God
             and
             man
             ;
             but
             seeing
             we
             cannot
             be
             believed
             ,
             we
             must
             beg
             leave
             to
             commit
             our selves
             to
             the
             mercy
             of
             Almighty
             God
             ,
             and
             we
             hope
             to
             find
             a
             pardon
             of
             Him.
             
          
           
             As
             for
             my
             own
             Part
             ,
             having
             been
             twenty
             years
             out
             of
             England
             ,
             and
             then
             coming
             over
             ,
             I
             was
             resolved
             to
             take
             a
             Journey
             into
             Staffordshire
             ;
             and
             setting
             out
             in
             August
             ,
             and
             not
             returning
             back
             to
             this
             Town
             untill
             before
             the
             14th
             day
             of
             September
             ,
             as
             many
             Witnesses
             can
             testifie
             :
             for
             I
             believe
             an
             hundred
             or
             more
             saw
             me
             there
             ;
             Therefore
             now
             ,
             how
             in
             this
             time
             we
             should
             be
             accused
             of
             Treasonable
             Stratagems
             ,
             I
             do
             not
             well
             know
             or
             in
             any
             wise
             understand
             .
          
        
         
           
             
               Thus
               much
               out
               the
               Tryals
               of
            
             Ireland
             ,
             &c.
             
          
           
             But
             because
             Mr.
             
             Ireland's
             not
             being
             in
             London
             ,
             from
             about
             the
             beginning
             of
             August
             till
             about
             the
             beginning
             of
             
               September
               ,
               A.
               D.
            
             1678.
             is
             urged
             and
             prosecuted
             with
             more
             importunity
             in
             the
             Tryals
             of
             White
             aliàs
             Whitebread
             ,
             &c.
             
             I
             shall
             here
             present
             you
             with
             the
             whole
             that
             referred
             to
             this
             matter
             ,
             as
             debated
             in
             the
             Court
             ,
             only
             leaving
             out
             every
             thing
             that
             had
             not
             a
             special
             Reference
             to
             the
             thing
             Intended
             ,
             to
             wit
             ,
             the
             Proving
             Mr.
             Ireland
             out
             of
             Town
             for
             the
             whole
             forementioned
             time
             .
          
           
             
               Whitebread
               .
            
             
               My
               Lord
               ,
               I
               have
               only
               this
               ,
               and
               I
               desire
               to
               be
               heard
               in
               this
               point
               ,
               to
               prove
               that
               Mr.
               Oates
               was
               mistaken
               in
               his
               Evidence
               that
               he
               gave
               at
               the
               last
               Tryal
               against
               Mr.
               Ireland
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               Look
               you
               .
               I
               must
               break
               in
               upon
               you
               ;
               you
               have
               been
               told
               so
               often
               ,
               all
               of
               you
               have
               been
               told
               it
               ,
               and
               yet
               you
               are
               upon
               the
               former
               Trials
               again
               .
               You
               are
               now
               upon
               your
               tryal
               for
               your
               Life
               ,
               if
               you
               could
               have
               disproved
               any
               thing
               that
               he
               said
               at
               a
               former
               Tryal
               ,
               you
               should
               have
               taken
               a
               legal
               way
               and
               convicted
               him
               of
               Perjury
               ;
               but
               now
               to
               charge
               him
               with
               a
               Printed
               paper
               is
               not
               fair
               .
               You
               must
               speak
               to
               what
               he
               says
               now
               .
            
          
           
             
               Whitebread
               .
            
             
               He
               says
               the
               same
               now
               .
               But
               all
               that
               I
               say
               is
               this
               ,
               if
               he
               be
               not
               honest
               ,
               he
               can
               be
               witness
               in
               no
               case
               .
               I
               suppose
               if
               any
               one
               can
               prove
               him
               not
               
                 Probus
                 Testis
              
               ,
               his
               Testimony
               is
               not
               to
               be
               received
               in
               any
               case
               .
            
          
           
             
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               But
               how
               will
               you
               prove
               that
               ?
               Come
               on
               ,
               I
               'le
               teach
               you
               a
               little
               Logick
               :
               If
               you
               will
               come
               to
               contradict
               a
               Witness
               ,
               you
               ought
               to
               do
               it
               in
               a
               matter
               which
               is
               the
               present
               debate
               here
               ;
               for
               if
               you
               would
               convict
               him
               of
               any
               thing
               that
               he
               said
               in
               Irelands
               Tryal
               ,
               we
               must
               try
               Irelands
               Cause
               over
               again
               .
               But
               if
               you
               will
               say
               any
               thing
               against
               what
               he
               says
               now
               ,
               do
               .
            
          
           
             
               Whitebread
               .
            
             
               That
               which
               I
               would
               aledge
               is
               this
               ,
               if
               he
               be
               convicted
               of
               Perjury
               in
               one
               Case
               ,
               he
               is
               not
               to
               be
               believed
               in
               another
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               You
               say
               right
               ,
               if
               he
               be
               convicted
               .
            
          
           
             
               Whitebread
               .
            
             
               He
               is
               not
               only
               then
               an
               incompetent
               Witness
               ,
               for
               he
               cannot
               be
               said
               to
               be
               
                 Probus
                 Testis
              
               .
               but
               he
               is
               Improbus
               .
               Now
               this
               is
               that
               I
               can
               prove
               .
            
          
           
             
               Mr.
               
                 Just
                 .
                 Pemberton
              
               .
            
             
               Nay
               ,
               you
               must
               shew
               it
               by
               a
               Record
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               You
               cannot
               have
               so
               little
               understanding
               ,
               you
               that
               have
               been
               ,
               and
               were
               to
               be
               so
               great
               a
               Man
               among
               them
               ,
               had
               been
               Provincial
               ,
               and
               was
               to
               have
               been
               somewhat
               else
               .
               I
               have
               told
               you
               already
               that
               to
               prove
               him
               to
               be
               a
               man
               that
               hath
               no
               Faith
               in
               him
               he
               must
               be
               convicted
               .
               You
               must
               have
               indicted
               him
               ,
               and
               convicted
               him
               ,
               of
               the
               thing
               wherein
               he
               did
               commit
               Perjury
               ,
               and
               then
               he
               had
               been
               prepared
               to
               justifie
               himself
               .
               But
               shall
               you
               come
               now
               ,
               and
               at
               this
               your
               Tryal
               ,
               and
               prove
               what
               he
               said
               at
               
               Staley's
               Tryal
               ,
               and
               Colemans
               Tryal
               ,
               and
               Irelands
               Tryal
               ?
               And
               must
               we
               examine
               what
               matters
               have
               receiv'd
               a
               Verdict
               and
               a
               Judgement
               there
               ?
               for
               consider
               what
               will
               be
               the
               consequence
               of
               it
               ;
               if
               it
               should
               be
               false
               ,
               you
               there
               arraign
               a
               Verdict
               :
               You
               should
               have
               convicted
               him
               of
               the
               falshood
               first
               .
            
          
           
             
               Whitebread
               .
            
             
               I
               desire
               the
               Jury
               to
               take
               notice
               ,
               that
               he
               does
               not
               stick
               to
               the
               Testimony
               that
               he
               gave
               then
               ,
               for
               if
               he
               does
               it
               was
               false
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               They
               must
               not
               take
               notice
               of
               any
               thing
               that
               was
               done
               at
               a
               former
               Tryal
               ,
               unless
               it
               be
               spoken
               of
               now
               .
               P.
               69.
               
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               North.
               
            
             
               Do
               not
               call
               any
               witnesses
               to
               prove
               what
               he
               said
               then
               ,
               but
               to
               disprove
               what
               he
               hath
               said
               now
               .
            
          
           
             
               Harcourt
               .
            
             
               Mr.
               Oates
               did
               accuse
               me
               of
               paying
               Fourscore
               pounds
               at
               my
               Chamber
               ,
               and
               he
               did
               say
               afterwards
               it
               was
               at
               Wild-house
               .
               I
               have
               Persons
               to
               justifie
               what
               was
               done
               at
               my
               own
               Chamber
               ;
               and
               he
               says
               ,
               Mr.
               Ireland
               was
               by
               ;
               now
               here
               are
               Witnesses
               to
               prove
               that
               Mr.
               Ireland
               was
               in
               Staffordshire
               all
               the
               month
               of
               August
               ,
               therefore
               he
               could
               not
               be
               present
               .
               P.
               70.
               
            
          
           
             
               Mr.
               
                 J.
                 Pemberton
              
               .
            
             
               That
               was
               urged
               before
               ;
               pray
               do
               not
               insist
               upon
               that
               ,
               it
               hath
               received
               a
               Tryal
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               I
               'le
               tell
               you
               what
               he
               says
               ,
               and
               I
               'le
               ask
               him
               the
               question
               :
               Dr.
               Oates
               ,
               it
               is
               supposed
               by
               your
               Testimony
               ,
               that
               Mr.
               Ireland
               and
               Mr.
               Harcourt
               were
               together
               when
               this
               Fourscore
               pounds
               was
               paid
               ,
               for
               the
               Villains
               that
               went
               to
               Windsor
               to
               murther
               the
               King.
               
            
          
           
             
               Dr.
               Oates
               .
            
             
               I
               never
               said
               such
               a
               word
               .
            
          
           
             
               Harcourt
               .
            
             
               Here
               it
               is
               in
               the
               Tryal
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               I
               stand
               not
               by
               the
               Printed
               Tryal
               ,
               it
               is
               no
               Record
               in
               Law.
               In
               short
               ,
               Were
               Mr.
               Ireland
               and
               Mr.
               Harcourt
               together
               at
               that
               time
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Dr.
               Oates
               .
            
             
               No
               ,
               they
               were
               not
               .
            
          
           
             
               Gavan
               .
            
             
               He
               did
               then
               say
               ,
               that
               he
               did
               receive
               of
               Mr.
               Ireland
               ,
               the
               2d
               of
               
                 September
                 ,
                 20s
              
               .
               that
               he
               borrowed
               of
               him
               :
               now
               the
               2d
               of
               September
               he
               was
               at
               Boscobel
               .
            
          
           
             
               Dr.
               Oates
               .
            
             
               My
               Lord
               ,
               I
               was
               not
               positive
               as
               to
               the
               Day
               ;
               but
               as
               near
               as
               I
               remember
               (
               those
               were
               the
               words
               I
               said
               )
               it
               was
               the
               2d
               of
               September
               ;
               but
               whether
               it
               was
               the
               First
               ,
               Second
               ,
               Seventh
               ,
               Eighth
               or
               Ninth
               ,
               I
               would
               not
               be
               positive
               in
               it
               .
            
             
               
                 Then
                 the
                 Prisoners
                 called
              
               Pendrel
               
                 and
                 his
                 Wife
                 ,
                 and
              
               Gifford
               
                 and
                 his
                 Wife
                 ;
                 and
              
               Gifford
               
                 stood
                 up
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Gifford
               .
            
             
               My
               Lord
               ,
               I
               was
               here
               the
               last
               Sessions
               ,
               where
               I
               did
               testifie
               the
               Seeing
               of
               Mr.
               Ireland
               in
               Staffordshire
               on
               the
               24th
               of
               
                 August
                 ,
                 Bartholomew-day
              
               ,
               and
               the
               next
               day
               after
               ;
               at
               which
               time
               Mr.
               Oates
               said
               that
               he
               saw
               him
               here
               in
               Town
               .
               But
               Mr.
               Oates
               could
               not
               be
               particular
               in
               every
               thing
               ;
               but
               at
               last
               he
               came
               to
               a
               circumstance
               ,
               and
               averred
               that
               the
               first
               or
               second
               of
               September
               he
               did
               receive
               20s
               .
               of
               Mr.
               Ireland
               in
               Harcourts
               Chamber
               ;
               he
               said
               it
               was
               about
               the
               Fast-day
               .
            
          
           
             
               Dr.
               Oates
               .
            
             
               That
               was
               as
               near
               as
               I
               remembred
               .
            
          
           
             
               Gifford
               .
            
             
               Here
               is
               in
               Court
               at
               least
               six
               People
               that
               know
               it
               ;
               I
               saw
               him
               several
               other
               of
               those
               days
               there
               ;
               but
               these
               six
               People
               conversed
               with
               him
               every
               day
               .
            
          
           
             
               Mr.
               
                 J.
                 Pemberton
              
               .
            
             
               How
               do
               you
               know
               all
               that
               ?
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               North.
               
            
             
               Come
               ,
               come
               ,
               you
               must
               not
               speak
               as
               to
               what
               he
               said
               in
               Irelands
               Tryal
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               What
               time
               was
               it
               that
               Mr.
               Harcourt
               and
               Mr.
               Ireland
               conferred
               together
               about
               this
               same
               business
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Dr.
               Oates
               .
            
             
               My
               Lord
               ,
               I
               do
               not
               charge
               Ireland
               ,
               but
               I
               charge
               Harcourt
               with
               being
               at
               Wild-house
               ,
               and
               that
               there
               Coleman
               met
               him
               ,
               and
               that
               there
               was
               greatest
               part
               of
               the
               money
               ,
               which
               was
               carried
               back
               to
               Harcourts
               Chamber
               ,
               and
               given
               to
               the
               person
               that
               was
               to
               carry
               it
               down
               to
               Windsor
               ;
               but
               Mr.
               Celeman
               was
               gone
               away
               before
               ,
               and
               had
               left
               a
               Guiny
               behind
               him
               ,
               which
               was
               given
               to
               the
               messenger
               for
               Expedition
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               I
               am
               mistaken
               if
               you
               have
               not
               testified
               that
               Ireland
               was
               in
               Town
               in
               August
               and
               September
               with
               Harcourt
               .
            
          
           
             
               Dr.
               Oates
               .
            
             
               Ireland
               took
               his
               leave
               of
               London
               betwixt
               the
               8th
               and
               12th
               of
               August
               ,
               as
               to
               go
               to
               St.
               
                 Omers
                 ,
                 p.
              
               71.
               
            
          
           
             
             
               Lord
               Ch.
               Just
               .
            
             
               Here
               is
               the
               matter
               ,
               they
               must
               have
               right
               ,
               though
               there
               be
               never
               so
               much
               time
               lost
               ,
               and
               patience
               spent
               :
               say
               they
               ,
               we
               must
               prove
               and
               contradict
               men
               by
               such
               matters
               as
               we
               can
               ;
               People
               may
               swear
               down-right
               things
               ,
               and
               't
               is
               impossible
               to
               contradict
               them
               ;
               but
               we
               will
               call
               witnesses
               to
               prove
               those
               particulars
               that
               can
               be
               proved
               :
               say
               where
               Mr.
               Ireland
               was
               in
               August
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Dr.
               Oates
               .
            
             
               He
               took
               his
               leave
               of
               us
               in
               Town
               in
               August
               ,
               and
               that
               was
               between
               the
               Eighth
               and
               Twelfth
               at
               Harcourts
               Chamber
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               What
               do
               you
               infer
               from
               Irelands
               being
               there
               then
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Dr.
               Oates
               .
            
             
               I
               le
               tell
               you
               what
               I
               design
               in
               it
               ;
               your
               Lordship
               may
               perceive
               that
               I
               did
               methodize
               my
               Evidence
               according
               to
               the
               time
               ;
               for
               I
               said
               this
               was
               our
               business
               in
               April
               ,
               this
               in
               July
               ;
               and
               now
               we
               come
               to
               the
               business
               of
               August
               ,
               said
               I
               ,
               we
               took
               our
               leaves
               of
               Mr.
               Ireland
               between
               the
               eighth
               and
               twelfth
               .
               I
               said
               in
               July
               Mr.
               Fenwick
               was
               out
               of
               Town
               ,
               but
               then
               if
               your
               Lordship
               remembers
               I
               said
               he
               was
               in
               Town
               ,
               and
               took
               his
               leave
               of
               Mr.
               Ireland
               between
               the
               eighth
               and
               the
               twelfth
               of
               August
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               Was
               Mr.
               Ireland
               in
               Fenwicks
               company
               at
               that
               time
               in
               August
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Dr.
               Oates
               .
            
             
               Yes
               my
               Lord
               he
               was
               when
               he
               took
               his
               leave
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               Did
               they
               talk
               then
               of
               this
               business
               .
            
          
           
             
               Dr
               Oates
               .
            
             
               They
               took
               their
               leaves
               one
               of
               another
               ,
               but
               as
               to
               what
               particular
               things
               of
               the
               Plot
               they
               spoke
               about
               ,
               I
               do
               not
               remember
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               Look
               you
               now
               ,
               mind
               what
               he
               says
               ,
               Ireland
               and
               Fenwick
               were
               together
               in
               August
               between
               the
               eighth
               and
               the
               twelfth
               ,
               but
               b●ing
               〈◊〉
               ,
               Whether
               they
               were
               met
               on
               purpose
               to
               talk
               of
               the
               Plot
               ?
               he
               says
               he
               does
               not
               remember
               the
               Particular
               :
            
             
               
                 Here
                 the
                 Lady
              
               Southcot
               ,
               
                 her
                 Son
                 ,
                 and
                 her
                 Daughter
                 ,
                 were
                 called
                 .
              
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               Did
               you
               say
               that
               Fenwick
               there
               at
               the
               Bar
               ,
               had
               converse
               with
               Ireland
               in
               August
               ,
               for
               the
               carrying
               on
               of
               the
               Plot
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Dr.
               Oates
               .
            
             
               Yes
               ,
               my
               Lord.
               
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               My
               rule
               is
               this
               in
               doubtful
               cases
               ;
               when
               men
               are
               upon
               their
               Lives
               ,
               I
               had
               rather
               hear
               what
               is
               impertinent
               ,
               than
               not
               ●●
               them
               make
               a
               full
               defence
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               North.
               
            
             
               I
               had
               rather
               hear
               things
               at
               a
               venture
               ,
               than
               forbid
               things
               at
               a
               venture
               .
            
             
               Lady
               Southcot
               
                 stood
                 up
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               How
               long
               were
               you
               in
               Mr.
               Ireland
               ;
               company
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Lady
               Southcot
               .
            
             
               From
               the
               fifth
               of
               August
               to
               the
               sixteenth
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               Just
               .
            
             
               What
               every
               day
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Lady
               Southcot
               .
            
             
               Yes
               every
               day
               .
            
          
           
             
               Dr.
               Oates
               .
            
             
               My
               Lord
               ,
               here
               is
               
                 Sarah
                 Pain
              
               ,
               who
               before
               hath
               testified
               what
               she
               hath
               known
               in
               this
               matter
               .
               If
               your
               Lordship
               〈…〉
               ,
               I
               desire
               she
               may
               be
               called
               in
               readiness
               to
               speak
               to
               it
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               Are
               y●●
               sure
               it
               was
               the
               fifth
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Lady
               Southcot
               .
            
             
               Yes
               ,
               as
               sure
               as
               I
               can
               be
               of
               any
               thing
               .
            
          
           
             
               Mr.
               Recorder
               .
            
             
               D●
               .
               Oates
               ,
               you
               had
               best
               keep
               your
               Evidence
               intire
               till
               the
               last
               .
            
             
               
                 Then
                 Sir
              
               Jo.
               Southcot
               
                 was
                 called
                 ,
                 and
                 appeared
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               Just
               .
            
             
               Did
               you
               know
               Mr.
               Ireland
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Sir
               
                 Jo.
                 Southcot
              
               .
            
             
               Yes
               ,
               I
               did
               know
               him
               by
               face
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               Where
               did
               you
               see
               him
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Sir
               
                 Jo.
                 Southcot
              
               .
            
             
               I
               saw
               him
               the
               5th
               .
               of
               August
               at
               Sir.
               Albans
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               And
               did
               he
               travel
               along
               with
               you
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Sir
               
                 Jo.
                 Southcot
              
               .
            
             
               Yes
               ,
               he
               did
               travel
               along
               with
               us
               ,
               the
               sixth
               ,
               seventh
               ,
               eighth
               ,
               and
               ninth
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               How
               many
               days
               did
               he
               travel
               along
               with
               you
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Sir
               
                 Jo.
                 Southcot
              
               .
            
             
               He
               travel'd
               along
               with
               us
               ,
               four
               days
               together
               ,
               I
               am
               sure
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               What
               from
               the
               fifth
               to
               the
               ninth
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Sir
               
                 Jo.
                 Southcot
              
               .
            
             
               Yes
               ,
               Sir.
               
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               Is
               this
               all
               that
               you
               can
               say
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Sir
               
                 Jo.
                 Southcot
              
               .
            
             
               Yes
               ,
               my
               Lord.
               
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               But
               we
               would
               know
               where
               he
               was
               afterwards
               ;
               did
               you
               see
               him
               after
               the
               ninth
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Sir
               
                 Jo.
                 Southcot
              
               .
            
             
               My
               Lord
               ,
               I
               saw
               him
               at
               St.
               Albans
               ,
               and
               we
               went
               from
               thence
               to
               Northampton
               ,
               and
               from
               thence
               to
               Coventry
               ,
               and
               from
               thence
               to
               my
               Lord
               Astons
               ,
               that
               is
               four
               days
               ;
               and
               I
               saw
               him
               Thursday
               ,
               I
               saw
               him
               
                 Friday
                 ,
                 Saturday
              
               ,
               and
               Monday
               following
               :
               Tuesday
               ,
               I
               had
               occasion
               to
               go
               further
               into
               the
               Countrey
               ,
               and
               he
               went
               along
               with
               us
               ;
               so
               I
               saw
               him
               
                 Tuesday
                 ,
                 Wednesday
                 ,
                 Thursday
              
               ,
               and
               Fryday
               ,
               afterwards
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               Why
               then
               ,
               you
               saw
               him
               at
               least
               twelve
               days
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Sir
               
                 Jo.
                 Southcot
              
               .
            
             
               Yes
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               Have
               you
               any
               more
               .
            
             
               
                 Then
                 Mr.
              
               Edward
               Southcot
               
                 stood
                 up
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               Were
               you
               here
               ,
               when
               Ireland
               was
               tried
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Sir
               
                 Jo.
                 Southcot
              
               .
            
             
               No.
               
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               Did
               you
               see
               Mr.
               Ireland
               in
               August
               last
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Mr.
               Southcot
               .
            
             
               The
               third
               of
               August
               ,
               he
               came
               down
               to
               my
               Lord
               Astons
               at
               Stanmore
               ,
               they
               said
               so
               ;
               but
               I
               cannot
               swear
               he
               came
               that
               night
               ,
               but
               I
               saw
               him
               very
               early
               the
               next
               morning
               ;
               the
               5th
               .
               we
               went
               to
               St.
               Albans
               ,
               and
               we
               kept
               on
               till
               we
               came
               to
               Tinall
               ,
               and
               I
               was
               in
               his
               company
               from
               the
               4th
               .
               to
               the
               16th
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               Why
               ,
               you
               hear
               what
               he
               says
               ,
               he
               was
               in
               Company
               with
               him
               every
               day
               from
               the
               4th
               .
               to
               the
               16th
               .
            
          
           
             
               Gavan
               .
            
             
               Call
               Mrs.
               Harewell
               and
               her
               daughter
               ,
               Mrs.
               Gifford
               ,
               and
               Mrs.
               Pendrel
               .
            
             
               
                 Then
                 Mrs.
              
               Harewell
               
                 stood
                 up
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               Did
               you
               see
               Mr.
               Ireland
               in
               August
               last
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Harewell
               .
            
             
               I
               saw
               Ireland
               in
               August
               last
               ,
               the
               17th
               .
               day
               ;
               he
               came
               then
               to
               my
               house
               at
               Wolverhampton
               ,
               and
               there
               he
               continued
               every
               day
               ,
               and
               lay
               in
               my
               house
               every
               night
               till
               the
               26th
               .
               day
               .
            
             
               
                 Then
                 young
                 Mrs.
              
               Harewell
               
                 stood
                 up
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Harewell
               .
            
             
               Mr.
               Ireland
               came
               to
               our
               house
               in
               Staffordshire
               the
               17th
               .
               of
               August
               ,
               and
               stayed
               there
               till
               the
               26th
               .
               I
               saw
               him
               every
               day
               ,
               unless
               it
               was
               Friday
               ,
               the
               day
               before
               
               Bartholomew-day
               ,
               when
               he
               went
               to
               Litehfield
               ,
               and
               returned
               again
               .
            
          
           
             
               Gavan
               .
            
             
               My
               Lord
               ,
               there
               is
               a
               Prisoner
               now
               in
               Newgate
               that
               can
               testifie
               the
               same
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               North.
               
            
             
               Would
               you
               ask
               your
               fellow
               if
               you
               be
               a
               Thief
               ?
               he
               is
               in
               for
               the
               same
               offence
               .
            
          
           
             
               Gavan
               .
            
             
               My
               Lord
               ,
               I
               desire
               to
               know
               ,
               if
               a
               man
               be
               not
               convicted
               of
               the
               same
               offence
               ,
               whether
               he
               be
               not
               a
               good
               witness
               ?
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               North.
               
            
             
               If
               he
               stand
               charged
               with
               the
               same
               Plot
               ,
               his
               Evidence
               is
               of
               little
               weight
               .
            
             
               Then
               Elisabeth
               Keiling
               
                 stood
                 up
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               Did
               you
               see
               Mr.
               Ireland
               in
               August
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Keiling
               .
            
             
               Yes
               ,
               my
               Lord
               ,
               I
               did
               .
               p.
               73.
               
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               Where
               did
               you
               see
               him
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Keiling
               .
            
             
               I
               saw
               him
               at
               Wolverhampton
               ,
               there
               he
               was
               from
               Saturday
               the
               17th
               .
               to
               Monday
               ,
               and
               then
               I
               went
               to
               see
               my
               Mother
               ,
               and
               came
               back
               again
               on
               Thursday
               ,
               and
               found
               him
               there
               ,
               and
               there
               he
               was
               till
               the
               26th
               .
            
             
               
                 Then
                 stood
                 up
                 Mr.
              
               Gifford
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               When
               did
               you
               see
               Mr.
               Ireland
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Gifford
               .
            
             
               My
               Lord
               ,
               Mr.
               Ireland
               came
               to
               Wolverhampton
               the
               17th
               .
               of
               August
               ,
               and
               he
               stayed
               there
               till
               the
               26th
               .
               it
               was
               of
               a
               Monday
               ,
               I
               remember
               it
               by
               several
               circumstances
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               Did
               you
               know
               Mr
               Ireland
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Gifford
               .
            
             
               I
               never
               saw
               him
               before
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               Do
               you
               know
               it
               was
               the
               same
               that
               died
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Gifford
               .
            
             
               My
               Lord
               ,
               here
               was
               my
               brother
               in
               Town
               ,
               who
               saw
               him
               executed
               ,
               and
               he
               did
               assure
               me
               he
               was
               the
               same
               .
               I
               saw
               him
               again
               the
               2d
               of
               September
               ,
               and
               the
               7th
               .
               of
               September
               
               again
               ,
               and
               the
               10th
               .
               and
               the
               11th
               .
               my
               Lord
               ,
               he
               was
               the
               same
               man
               I
               believe
               ,
               because
               my
               brother
               told
               me
               so
               .
               p.
               74.
               
            
          
           
             
               Sir
               
                 Cr.
                 Levins
              
               .
            
             
               Gentlemen
               of
               the
               Jury
               ,
               you
               have
               heard
               the
               Prisoners
               ,
               and
               they
               have
               had
               a
               great
               deal
               of
               time
               to
               make
               their
               defence
               ;
               but
               the
               greatest
               part
               of
               their
               defence
               hath
               been
               to
               invalidate
               the
               Testimony
               of
               Mr.
               Oates
               ;
               and
               what
               is
               the
               Evidence
               they
               have
               brought
               against
               him
               ?
               they
               tell
               you
               first
               ,
               that
               he
               did
               not
               come
               over
               in
               this
               Company
               that
               he
               says
               he
               came
               over
               with
               .
               And
               whereas
               he
               hath
               sworn
               he
               was
               here
               the
               24th
               of
               April
               ,
               they
               have
               taken
               a
               great
               deal
               of
               pains
               by
               fifteen
               or
               sixteen
               Witnesses
               ,
               to
               prove
               that
               he
               was
               all
               the
               time
               at
               St.
               
                 Omers
                 .
              
               —
               P.
               76.
               
            
          
           
             
               Sir
               
                 C.
                 Levins
              
               .
            
             
               —
               Now
               as
               for
               Mr.
               Oates
               Testimony
               ,
               and
               what
               they
               have
               to
               say
               to
               him
               ;
               in
               the
               first
               place
               ,
               they
               have
               brought
               a
               young
               Gentleman
               ,
               Mr.
               Hilsley
               ,
               and
               he
               says
               he
               did
               not
               come
               over
               with
               him
               ,
               and
               there
               't
               is
               one
               against
               one
               ,
               but
               Dr.
               Oates
               hath
               Sworn
               it
               ,
               and
               hath
               given
               you
               such
               convincing
               Circumstances
               how
               he
               lost
               his
               money
               ,
               &c.
               so
               that
               I
               leave
               it
               to
               you
               ,
               which
               of
               the
               two
               is
               in
               the
               right
               ,
               and
               ought
               to
               be
               believed
               .
               But
               then
               ,
               my
               Lord
               ,
               as
               to
               the
               rest
               of
               the
               Witnesses
               ,
               here
               are
               a
               great
               many
               brought
               over
               to
               prove
               that
               Dr.
               Oates
               was
               all
               the
               while
               at
               St.
               Omers
               ;
               but
               I
               shall
               bring
               you
               a
               considerable
               number
               of
               Witnesses
               ,
               to
               prove
               that
               Dr.
               Oates
               was
               then
               in
               London
               ,
               and
               that
               all
               these
               Persons
               are
               mistaken
               :
               They
               do
               all
               pitch
               upon
               the
               first
               of
               May
               ,
               to
               six
               it
               upon
               a
               time
               ,
               wherein
               he
               says
               he
               was
               here
               in
               Town
               :
               But
               Gentlemen
               ,
               I
               hope
               you
               did
               observe
               ,
               that
               as
               to
               other
               things
               and
               time
               that
               were
               not
               so
               necessary
               as
               to
               this
               matter
               ,
               there
               they
               were
               pleased
               to
               mistake
               ,
               and
               to
               differ
               one
               from
               another
               ,
               to
               contradict
               one
               another
               ;
               for
               some
               of
               them
               said
               he
               went
               away
               and
               left
               St.
               Omers
               the
               10th
               of
               June
               ,
               others
               the
               23d
               others
               ,
               which
               was
               the
               same
               Flemish
               Gardiner
               ,
               that
               he
               stay'd
               till
               July
               :
               Truly
               half
               that
               variance
               in
               the
               time
               which
               is
               necessary
               ,
               would
               serve
               our
               turn
               ,
               we
               are
               but
               for
               eight
               days
               time
               ,
               that
               is
               ,
               he
               was
               not
               above
               eight
               or
               ten
               days
               here
               ;
               truly
               these
               Gentlemen
               will
               be
               sure
               to
               speak
               punctually
               to
               all
               those
               eight
               days
               that
               hurt
               the
               Prisoners
               ,
               but
               they
               will
               vary
               thirty
               days
               at
               another
               time
               ,
               that
               hurts
               them
               not
               :
               Why
               may
               they
               not
               be
               mistaken
               as
               well
               with
               that
               portion
               of
               time
               ,
               as
               they
               were
               in
               the
               other
               ,
               wherein
               they
               so
               much
               differed
               one
               from
               another
               ?
               But
               I
               shall
               give
               you
               most
               infallable
               proof
               by
               and
               by
               ,
               that
               Mr.
               Oates
               was
               in
               England
               at
               that
               time
               ,
               that
               he
               said
               he
               was
               in
               England
               :
               This
               he
               does
               in
               the
               Trials
               of
               
                 Whitebread
                 ,
                 &c.
              
               from
               Pag.
               79.
               to
               Pag.
               85.
               to
               which
               the
               Reader
               is
               referred
               .
               Pag.
               77.
               
            
          
           
             
               Sir
               
                 Ch.
                 Levins
              
               .
            
             
               —
               Then
               truly
               ,
               my
               Lord
               ,
               they
               are
               fixed
               upon
               another
               great
               matter
               to
               blemish
               Dr.
               Oates
               as
               to
               Mr
               ▪
               Ireland
               ,
               a
               person
               that
               is
               dead
               and
               out
               of
               the
               way
               .
               Mr.
               Ireland
               hath
               been
               hanged
               upon
               that
               Evidence
               ,
               so
               far
               it
               was
               believed
               ,
               but
               now
               after
               all
               this
               will
               these
               Gentlemen
               come
               to
               question
               the
               Evidence
               that
               was
               given
               against
               Mr.
               Ireland
               .
               They
               have
               likewise
               ,
               my
               Lord
               ,
               brought
               my
               Lady
               Southcot
               ,
               and
               some
               other
               persons
               who
               give
               you
               an
               Evidence
               concerning
               Mr.
               Ireland
               ,
               that
               he
               should
               not
               be
               here
               at
               this
               time
               ;
               but
               Gentlemen
               under
               favour
               ,
               Mr.
               Oates
               hath
               sworn
               before
               ,
               and
               he
               hath
               now
               sworn
               it
               again
               ,
               that
               Mr.
               Ireland
               was
               at
               that
               time
               in
               London
               ,
               and
               Gentlemen
               ,
               I
               will
               confirm
               him
               in
               that
               by
               another
               Witness
               that
               did
               see
               him
               here
               in
               Town
               at
               that
               time
               .
               And
               when
               you
               have
               two
               Witnesses
               for
               the
               King
               upon
               their
               Oaths
               come
               and
               testifie
               it
               ,
               I
               hope
               you
               will
               beleive
               them
               ,
               rather
               then
               other
               persons
               that
               testifie
               only
               by
               Hear-say
               .
               It
               was
               the
               matter
               then
               in
               Issue
               ,
               and
               had
               saved
               his
               Life
               if
               it
               had
               been
               true
               ,
               but
               though
               it
               be
               now
               setled
               ,
               and
               none
               could
               think
               it
               would
               be
               again
               started
               ,
               they
               would
               make
               that
               an
               Objection
               ,
               but
               by
               chance
               we
               have
               a
               Witness
               still
               to
               give
               you
               satisfaction
               ,
               that
               Mr.
               Ireland
               was
               in
               London
               at
               that
               time
               that
               Mr.
               Oates
               did
               swear
               him
               to
               be
               .
               We
               will
               begin
               with
               that
               Witness
               about
               Ireland
               .
               And
               then
               we
               will
               call
               our
               Witnesses
               to
               prove
               that
               Mr
               Oates
               was
               in
               England
               ,
               and
               did
               come
               over
               when
               he
               said
               he
               did
               .
               Call
               
                 Sarah
                 Pain
              
               (
               who
               was
               sworn
               )
            
          
           
             
               Sir
               
                 Ch.
                 Levins
              
               .
            
             
               What
               time
               did
               you
               see
               Mr.
               Ireland
               in
               London
               ?
               did
               you
               see
               him
               in
               August
               last
               ?
            
          
           
             
               S.
               Pain
               .
            
             
               I
               saw
               him
               about
               7
               or
               8
               days
               before
               I
               came
               to
               my
               Lord
               Chamberlain
               ,
               and
               that
               was
               about
               a
               week
               before
               the
               King
               went
               to
               Windsor
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               Where
               did
               you
               see
               him
               ?
            
          
           
             
               S.
               Pain
               .
            
             
               At
               his
               own
               door
               in
               Russel-street
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               Did
               you
               speak
               to
               him
               ?
            
          
           
             
               S.
               Pain
               .
            
             
               No
               ;
               I
               knew
               him
               very
               well
               ,
               and
               saw
               him
               as
               I
               came
               by
               .
            
          
           
             
               Sir
               
                 Ch.
                 Levins
              
               .
            
             
               Had
               not
               you
               carried
               many
               Letters
               to
               him
               ?
            
          
           
             
               S.
               Pain
               .
            
             
               Yes
               ,
               several
               Letters
               ,
               p.
               78.
               
            
          
           
             
               Sir
               
                 Ch.
                 Levins
              
               .
            
             
               But
               where
               did
               you
               live
               before
               ?
            
          
           
             
               S.
               Pain
               .
            
             
               I
               lived
               at
               Mr.
               
               Grove's
               .
            
          
           
             
               Sir
               
                 Ch.
                 Levins
              
               .
            
             
               Did
               not
               Mr.
               Ireland
               use
               to
               come
               there
               too
               ?
            
          
           
             
               S.
               Pain
               .
            
             
               Yes
               ,
               he
               did
               often
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               Just
               .
            
             
               Was
               any
               one
               talking
               with
               Ireland
               then
               ?
            
          
           
             
               S.
               Pain
               .
            
             
               No.
               
            
          
           
             
               Sir
               
                 Ch.
                 Levins
              
               .
            
             
               How
               long
               did
               you
               look
               upon
               him
               ?
               did
               you
               see
               him
               go
               in
               ?
               did
               you
               see
               his
               face
               or
               his
               back
               ?
            
          
           
             
               S.
               Pain
               .
            
             
               I
               saw
               his
               face
               ,
               and
               made
               him
               a
               Courtesie
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               This
               she
               said
               to
               Irelands
               face
               .
            
          
           
             
               Mr.
               
                 J.
                 Dolben
              
               .
            
             
               Your
               Evidence
               is
               ,
               that
               Mr.
               Ireland
               went
               out
               of
               Town
               the
               5.
               of
               August
               ,
               and
               she
               says
               she
               saw
               him
               about
               that
               time
               ,
               which
               must
               be
               the
               12th
               or
               14th
               of
               August
               .
            
          
           
             
               Gavan
               .
            
             
               How
               does
               she
               prove
               it
               ?
               she
               does
               not
               say
               she
               spoke
               with
               him
               .
            
          
           
             
               Mr.
               
                 Just
                 .
                 Dolben
              
               .
            
             
               She
               swears
               it
               .
            
          
           
             
               Sir
               
                 Ch.
                 Levins
              
               .
            
             
               Now
               we
               must
               prove
               what
               time
               the
               King
               went
               to
               Windsor
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               Sir
               
                 Tho.
                 Doleman
              
               ,
               what
               time
               in
               August
               did
               the
               King
               go
               to
               Windsor
               last
               Summer
               ?
            
          
           
             
               Sir
               
                 Tho.
                 Doleman
              
               .
            
             
               I
               believe
               (
               I
               cannot
               charge
               my
               memory
               so
               well
               )
               it
               was
               the
               13th
               ,
               it
               was
               about
               the
               12th
               or
               13.
               
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               Was
               my
               Lord
               Chamberlain
               there
               then
               ?
            
          
           
             
               S.
               Pain
               .
            
             
               My
               Lord
               Chamberlain
               went
               after
               the
               King.
               
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               And
               when
               do
               you
               say
               ,
               you
               saw
               Ireland
               ?
            
          
           
             
               S.
               Pain
               .
            
             
               I
               saw
               him
               seven
               or
               eight
               days
               before
               I
               went
               to
               my
               Lord
               Chamberlains
               ,
               which
               was
               before
               my
               Lord
               went
               to
               Windsor
               ,
               and
               that
               was
               a
               week
               after
               the
               King
               went
               thither
               .
            
          
           
             
               Sir
               
                 Ch.
                 Levins
              
               .
            
             
               Now
               I
               'le
               tell
               you
               what
               she
               says
               ;
               she
               says
               she
               saw
               Ireland
               a
               week
               before
               she
               went
               to
               my
               Lord
               
               Chamberlain's
               ,
               and
               she
               saw
               him
               go
               into
               
               Grove's
               House
               ,
               where
               he
               did
               usually
               go
               for
               Letters
               .
               She
               says
               she
               saw
               his
               face
               ,
               and
               made
               him
               a
               Courtesie
               ;
               and
               that
               this
               was
               a
               week
               before
               she
               went
               to
               my
               Lord
               Chamberlains
               ,
               and
               that
               was
               a
               week
               after
               the
               King
               went
               to
               Windsor
               .
               Now
               the
               time
               that
               Mr.
               Oates
               pitches
               upon
               ,
               is
               between
               the
               eighth
               and
               the
               twelfth
               of
               August
               ,
               which
               by
               computation
               is
               the
               time
               she
               speaks
               of
               .
               P.
               79.
               
            
          
           
             
               Gavan
               .
            
             
               —
               My
               Lord
               ,
               we
               have
               here
               16
               at
               least
               Staffordshire
               Witnesses
               ,
               who
               give
               you
               an
               account
               of
               Mr.
               
               Ireland's
               being
               out
               of
               London
               from
               the
               3d
               of
               August
               till
               14th
               of
               September
               .
               So
               that
               in
               these
               two
               things
               he
               hath
               been
               contradicted
               without
               any
               answer
               ,
               for
               he
               says
               ,
               the
               12th
               of
               August
               he
               was
               with
               him
               ,
               when
               they
               say
               he
               was
               in
               Staffordshire
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               You
               have
               forgot
               the
               maid
               that
               saw
               him
               in
               London
               the
               12.
               
                 or
                 13th
              
               .
            
          
           
             
               Gavan
               .
            
             
               No
               ,
               my
               Lord
               ,
               I
               have
               not
               .
               And
               this
               is
               it
               ,
               I
               answer
               to
               it
               ;
               she
               is
               a
               witness
               that
               only
               says
               ,
               she
               just
               saw
               him
               ,
               but
               did
               not
               speak
               to
               him
               .
            
          
           
             
               L
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               She
               made
               a
               Courtesie
               to
               him
               .
               P.
               86.
               
            
          
           
             
               Gavan
               .
            
             
               We
               were
               talking
               now
               of
               seeing
               Ireland
               in
               August
               ,
               and
               we
               prove
               by
               Sir.
               Jo.
               Southcot
               and
               all
               his
               Family
               ,
               who
               say
               they
               began
               their
               journey
               with
               him
               the
               5th
               of
               August
               ;
               and
               staid
               with
               him
               till
               the
               19th
               ,
               after
               the
               particular
               Day
               that
               she
               speaks
               of
               ,
               you
               find
               7
               or
               8
               of
               them
               swear
               that
               they
               saw
               him
               all
               the
               time
               .
               P.
               87.
               
            
             
               I
               will
               close
               up
               the
               Whole
               with
               a
               little
               of
               my
               
                 Lord
                 Chief
                 Justices
              
               Speech
               ,
               at
               the
               end
               of
               the
               Tryals
               of
               
                 Whitebread
                 ,
                 &c.
                 p.
              
               92
               ,
               93.
               
               Which
               though
               it
               may
               not
               at
               first
               seem
               to
               answer
               our
               particular
               design
               ,
               the
               demonstrating
               
               Ireland's
               
               being
               in
               London
               ,
               yet
               it
               truly
               answers
               our
               general
               design
               ,
               to
               con●●●●
               the
               reality
               of
               the
               Plot
               ,
               and
               in
               order
               thereunto
               it
               is
               a
               most
               noble
               Argument
               ,
               and
               really
               merits
               not
               only
               the
               transcribing
               into
               this
               Tract
               to
               fill
               up
               an
               empty
               space
               ,
               but
               even
               into
               the
               memories
               of
               all
               true
               Protestants
               .
            
          
           
             
               L.
               C.
               J.
               
            
             
               I
               will
               challenge
               all
               the
               Papists
               in
               England
               to
               satisfie
               any
               man
               that
               hears
               me
               this
               day
               of
               one
               piece
               of
               Evidence
               ,
               which
               will
               turn
               every
               Protestants
               heart
               against
               the
               Papists
               .
               If
               so
               be
               ,
               they
               murdered
               Sir
               
                 Edmund-Bury
                 Godfrey
              
               ,
               the
               Plot
               even
               by
               that
               is
               in
               a
               great
               measure
               proved
               upon
               them
               ,
               by
               that
               base
               murther
               .
               And
               what
               can
               be
               a
               plainer
               proof
               of
               it
               ,
               than
               the
               evidence
               of
               this
               Day
               ,
               which
               Mr.
               Dugdale
               produces
               ?
               Who
               had
               notice
               (
               saith
               he
               )
               on
               Monday
               night
               ,
               that
               on
               the
               Saturday
               before
               it
               ,
               Sir
               
                 Edm.
                 Godfrey
              
               was
               kill'd
               (
               which
               falls
               out
               to
               be
               that
               very
               Saturday
               he
               was
               first
               missing
               )
               which
               notice
               was
               given
               in
               a
               Letter
               writ
               by
               Harcourt
               to
               
                 Ewers
                 '
              
               another
               Priest
               ,
               that
               same
               Saturday
               night
               ,
               wherein
               were
               these
               words
               ,
               
                 This
                 night
                 Sir
                 Edmund-bury
                 Godfrey
                 is
                 dispatched
              
               ;
               and
               I
               am
               sure
               if
               this
               be
               true
               ,
               then
               no
               man
               can
               say
               but
               they
               murdered
               Him.
               Now
               the
               question
               is
               ,
               whether
               it
               be
               true
               or
               no
               ?
               To
               make
               it
               out
               ,
               he
               produces
               Mr.
               Chetwind
               ,
               whom
               I
               hope
               you
               will
               not
               deny
               to
               be
               a
               Gentleman
               of
               one
               of
               the
               best
               Families
               of
               his
               Country
               ,
               and
               of
               honest
               Reputation
               ,
               who
               says
               ;
               that
               on
               the
               Tuesday
               following
               that
               Saturday
               Sir
               
                 Edmund-bury
                 Godfrey
              
               was
               miss't
               ,
               he
               and
               another
               were
               walking
               together
               in
               Staffordshire
               ,
               and
               that
               the
               other
               Person
               asked
               him
               if
               he
               knew
               of
               the
               Death
               of
               any
               Justice
               of
               the
               Peace
               at
               Westminster
               ,
               and
               when
               he
               told
               him
               ,
               he
               had
               heard
               of
               no
               such
               thing
               ;
               No
               ,
               said
               he
               ,
               that
               is
               strange
               ,
               you
               living
               sometimes
               about
               Westminster
               ;
               for
               said
               he
               ,
               the
               Wench
               at
               the
               Ale-house
               says
               ,
               That
               this
               morning
               Mr.
               Dugdale
               said
               to
               two
               other
               Gentlemen
               ,
               there
               was
               a
               Justice
               of
               Peace
               of
               Westminster
               killed
               ;
               and
               Mr.
               Dugdale
               swears
               ,
               That
               was
               Sir
               
                 Edmund-bury
                 Godfrey
              
               ;
               now
               if
               Dugdale
               be
               fit
               to
               be
               believed
               ,
               that
               he
               saw
               such
               a
               Letter
               ,
               as
               he
               must
               be
               if
               he
               be
               not
               a
               very
               great
               Prophet
               ,
               to
               be
               able
               to
               foretell
               this
               :
               or
               if
               the
               Maid
               that
               said
               this
               ,
               did
               not
               invent
               it
               (
               a
               thing
               then
               impossible
               to
               be
               done
               :
               )
               or
               Mr.
               Chetwind
               feigned
               that
               he
               heard
               the
               Man
               make
               his
               report
               from
               the
               Maid
               ;
               this
               thing
               could
               not
               come
               to
               pass
               ,
               but
               by
               these
               men
               .
               Nay
               ,
               if
               Mr.
               Dugdale
               could
               not
               do
               as
               great
               a
               Miracle
               as
               any
               are
               in
               the
               
                 Popish
                 Legends
              
               ,
               how
               could
               he
               tell
               that
               it
               was
               done
               on
               the
               same
               Night
               when
               it
               was
               done
               at
               London
               ?
               or
               speak
               of
               it
               on
               the
               Monday
               night
               after
               ,
               when
               it
               was
               not
               known
               in
               London
               till
               the
               Thursday
               following
               ?
               This
               will
               stick
               ,
               I
               assure
               you
               (
               Sirs
               )
               upon
               all
               your
               Party
               .
            
             
               For
               my
               own
               part
               ,
               this
               evidence
               of
               Mr.
               Dugdals
               ,
               gives
               me
               the
               greatest
               satisfaction
               of
               any
               thing
               in
               the
               World
               ,
               in
               this
               matter
               ,
               and
               whilst
               we
               rest
               satisfied
               in
               the
               Murder
               of
               that
               Man
               ,
               and
               are
               morally
               certain
               you
               must
               do
               it
               ,
               knowing
               of
               what
               Principles
               you
               are
               ,
               you
               cannot
               blame
               us
               ,
               if
               upon
               such
               manifest
               reasons
               we
               lay
               it
               upon
               you
               .
            
             
               And
               this
               is
               occasional
               Evidence
               ,
               which
               I
               for
               my
               part
               never
               heard
               before
               this
               day
               ;
               nor
               can
               I
               ever
               be
               more
               or
               better
               satisfied
               ,
               then
               I
               am
               upon
               this
               point
               ,
               viz.
               The
               Testimony
               that
               I
               have
               received
               this
               afternoon
               ,
               concerning
               the
               murder
               of
               Sir
               
                 Edmund-bury
                 Godfrey
              
               :
               As
               to
               the
               defences
               they
               have
               made
               ,
               they
               are
               exceptions
               in
               point
               of
               time
               ,
               but
               do
               not
               effect
               Mr.
               Dugdale
               ;
               for
               they
               have
               hardly
               the
               confidence
               to
               deny
               the
               things
               he
               says
               to
               be
               true
               against
               them
               .
            
             
               They
               fall
               foul
               indeed
               upon
               Mr.
               Oates
               :
               He
               appears
               to
               have
               been
               their
               Agent
               ;
               and
               whilst
               so
               ,
               bad
               enough
               ;
               but
               if
               he
               had
               not
               had
               a
               mind
               to
               have
               become
               a
               good
               man
               ,
               he
               would
               not
               likely
               have
               done
               us
               that
               good
               that
               he
               hath
               done
               ,
               in
               discovering
               the
               Design
               you
               had
               engaged
               him
               in
               :
               let
               any
               man
               judge
               by
               your
               Principles
               and
               Practices
               ,
               what
               you
               will
               not
               do
               for
               the
               promoting
               of
               the
               same
               .
            
          
        
         
           FINIS
           .