The depositions and examinations of Mr. Edmund Everard (who was four years close prisoner in the Tower of London) concerning the horrid popish plot against the life of His Sacred Majesty, the government, and the Protestant religion with the names of several persons in England, Ireland, France, and elsewhere concerned in the conspiracy.
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           I
           Appoint
           
             Dorman
             Newman
          
           ,
           Citizen
           and
           Stationer
           of
           London
           ,
           to
           Print
           my
           Depositions
           concerning
           the
           Plot
           ,
           and
           none
           else
           .
        
         
           
             
               April
               30.
               1679.
               
            
          
           
             Edmund
             Everard
             .
          
        
      
       
         
         
           THE
           DEPOSITIONS
           AND
           EXAMINATIONS
           OF
           Mr.
           Edmund
           Everard
           (
           Who
           was
           Four
           years
           close
           Prisoner
           in
           the
           TOWER
           of
           LONDON
           )
           Concerning
           the
           
             Horrid
             Popish
             Plot
          
           AGAINST
           The
           LIFE
           of
           His
           SACRED
           MAJESTY
           ,
           the
           GOVERNMENT
           ,
           and
           the
           
             Protestant
             Religion
          
           .
        
         
           With
           the
           Names
           of
           several
           persons
           in
           
             England
             ,
             Ireland
             ,
             France
          
           ,
           and
           elsewhere
           ,
           concerned
           in
           the
           Conspiracy
           .
        
         
           
             Part
             whereof
             was
             five
             years
             since
             made
             known
             to
             persons
             herein
             specified
             ;
             and
             again
             tendered
             to
             the
             Honourable
             Committee
             of
             Lords
             sitting
             in
             Parliament
             at
             Westminster
             ,
             upon
             Oath
             ;
             and
             now
             tendered
             to
             the
             Honourable
             House
             of
             Commons
             .
          
        
         
           LONDON
           :
           Printed
           for
           
             Dorman
             Newman
          
           at
           the
           
             Kings
             Arms
          
           in
           the
           Poultrey
           .
        
         
           M
           DC
           LXXIX
           .
        
      
    
     
       
         
         
         
           This
           Information
           of
           the
           Plot
           was
           five
           years
           since
           given
           by
           me
           to
           persons
           herein
           specified
           ,
           but
           was
           suppressed
           ;
           and
           was
           again
           now
           of
           late
           tendered
           a-new
           to
           the
           Committee
           of
           the
           Lords
           sitting
           in
           Parliament
           at
           Westminster
           ,
           upon
           Oath
           ,
           the
           
           21st
           of
           
             December
             ,
             1678.
          
           
           And
           is
           now
           tender'd
           by
           me
           to
           the
           Commons
           .
        
         
           WHILE
           I
           was
           employed
           as
           Agent
           at
           the
           French
           Court
           for
           the
           English
           Militia's
           Concerns
           ,
           one
           of
           the
           Officers
           brought
           me
           at
           Paris
           to
           the
           acquaintance
           of
           my
           Lady
           
             Anne
             Gourdon
          
           ,
           Sister
           to
           the
           now
           Marquess
           of
           Huntley
           in
           Scotland
           .
           She
           after
           about
           a
           years
           frequentation
           ,
           communicated
           unto
           me
           certain
           important
           secrets
           concerning
           a
           
             Popish
             Plot
          
           against
           England
           .
        
         
           She
           's
           a
           Lady
           of
           vast
           correspondence
           with
           the
           Popish
           Clergy
           and
           Nobility
           almost
           through
           all
           Europe
           ;
           living
           ordinarily
           as
           a
           free
           person
           in
           Nunneries
           ,
           and
           was
           then
           in
           a
           Convent
           at
           Paris
           .
        
         
           At
           a
           time
           I
           surprized
           her
           with
           two
           of
           the
           chief
           Scotch
           Seminarists
           of
           Paris
           ,
           in
           a
           deep
           and
           dark
           discourse
           of
           the
           English
           Affairs
           ;
           and
           as
           soon
           as
           my
           Lady
           made
           them
           understand
           that
           I
           was
           one
           of
           her
           privatest
           Friends
           ,
           and
           Catholickly
           affected
           (
           it
           being
           fit
           she
           should
           imagine
           this
           )
           they
           begun
           to
           speak
           plain
           enough
           ,
           to
           let
           me
           perceive
           that
           their
           discourse
           tended
           to
           some
           sudden
           design
           for
           the
           subversion
           of
           the
           English
           Government
           and
           Governour
           ,
           and
           the
           setting
           up
           of
           Popery
           here
           in
           England
           .
        
         
           But
           on
           some
           day
           of
           the
           Month
           of
           November
           ,
           1673
           ,
           I
           enquired
           of
           my
           Lady
           what
           those
           mysterious
           discourses
           meaned
           she
           had
           with
           the
           Scotch
           Priest
           ?
           She
           after
           long
           importunities
           and
           protestations
           ,
           revealed
           unto
           me
           that
           which
           follows
           .
        
         
         
           I.
           That
           there
           was
           now
           a
           grand
           Design
           on
           foot
           in
           England
           ,
           for
           the
           setling
           of
           the
           Catholick
           Faith
           there
           publickly
           .
        
         
           II.
           That
           there
           was
           also
           a
           project
           against
           the
           Parliament
           that
           made
           such
           a
           stir
           (
           as
           she
           spoke
           )
           and
           was
           their
           obstacle
           ,
           either
           totally
           to
           dissolve
           it
           ,
           or
           to
           sow
           some
           divisions
           betwixt
           the
           King
           and
           It
           ;
           where
           his
           Majesty
           also
           should
           find
           potent
           Adversaries
           of
           the
           Romish
           Nobility
           ,
           who
           would
           cut
           out
           work
           for
           him
           .
        
         
           III.
           That
           there
           was
           a
           very
           considerable
           party
           in
           England
           ,
           who
           laboured
           to
           make
           the
           Duke
           of
           York
           King
           ,
           but
           that
           the
           Scots
           indeed
           were
           more
           for
           the
           Duke
           of
           Monmouths
           being
           such
           ,
           if
           means
           could
           be
           made
           to
           bring
           him
           over
           to
           it
           ,
           wherein
           she
           conceived
           I
           might
           be
           an
           useful
           Instrument
           ,
           having
           been
           employed
           under
           him
           .
           But
           said
           I
           ,
           What
           do
           they
           mean
           to
           do
           with
           the
           King
           himself
           ?
           She
           answered
           ,
        
         
           I.
           That
           the
           now
           King
           of
           England
           would
           be
           made
           away
           ,
           and
           dispatcht
           after
           his
           Father
           ,
           so
           that
           he
           would
           not
           be
           shortly
           in
           a
           case
           to
           annoy
           any
           body
           .
        
         
           Then
           I
           askt
           her
           by
           what
           means
           they
           thought
           to
           bring
           such
           matters
           about
           ?
           and
           who
           were
           the
           leading-men
           in
           the
           contrivance
           ,
           and
           who
           the
           Under-agents
           to
           carry
           it
           on
           ?
           She
           said
           ,
           That
           all
           that
           was
           too
           much
           for
           me
           to
           know
           at
           the
           first
           time
           ;
           besides
           ,
           that
           it
           was
           then
           too
           late
           at
           night
           ;
           but
           that
           at
           my
           return
           within
           three
           days
           (
           for
           avoiding
           of
           suspition
           )
           I
           should
           be
           fully
           satisfied
           .
           But
           I
           insisted
           ,
           That
           these
           were
           grand
           affairs
           whereof
           she
           spoke
           ,
           for
           which
           consequently
           she
           needed
           to
           have
           more
           than
           common
           grounds
           .
           She
           replied
           ,
           that
           I
           ought
           not
           to
           doubt
           but
           that
           she
           had
           the
           best
           correspondency
           in
           
             England
             ,
             Scotland
          
           ,
           and
           France
           ,
           as
           having
           on
           the
           one
           part
           Madam
           
             de
             Gourdon
          
           her
           Aunt
           ,
           one
           of
           the
           chief
           Ladies
           with
           the
           Dutchess
           of
           Orleance
           ,
           which
           was
           taken
           to
           be
           of
           the
           fittest
           for
           Intelligence
           and
           Intrigues
           at
           the
           French
           Court
           ;
           and
           on
           the
           other
           side
           ,
           that
           she
           received
           Letters
           almost
           every
           week
           from
           the
           eminentest
           Church-men
           on
           this
           and
           that
           side
           of
           the
           sea
           ,
           as
           also
           from
           some
           of
           the
           greatest
           Nobility
           of
           England
           and
           Scotland
           ,
           namely
           ,
           from
           her
           Brother
           the
           Marquess
           of
           Huntley
           ,
           my
           Lord
           Oxenford
           of
           Scotland
           ,
           Mr.
           Maitland
           (
           somewhat
           concerned
           ,
           as
           she
           
           said
           ,
           in
           the
           Secretaryship
           of
           Ministry
           of
           State
           of
           Scotland
           )
           and
           from
           the
           Earl
           of
           Roches
           Chancellor
           there
           ;
           but
           she
           afterwards
           run
           out
           into
           some
           of
           his
           Love
           commerce
           with
           her
           ;
           so
           that
           I
           leave
           to
           others
           to
           infer
           from
           the
           premises
           to
           which
           ,
           either
           to
           Love
           ,
           or
           the
           Plot-part
           ,
           or
           all
           of
           this
           his
           Letter-Correspondency
           must
           be
           referred
           .
           And
           to
           confirm
           further
           the
           credit
           I
           must
           yeild
           to
           her
           words
           ,
           she
           drew
           forth
           a
           Bag
           full
           of
           Letters
           ,
           a
           matter
           of
           a
           Bushel
           full
           ,
           and
           shewed
           some
           more
           in
           a
           Cabinet
           ,
           saying
           ,
           Are
           these
           all
           about
           trifles
           ,
           think
           you
           ?
           She
           further
           produced
           a
           picture
           in
           mignature
           of
           the
           said
           Chancellor
           ,
           and
           went
           about
           to
           read
           one
           of
           his
           Letters
           (
           of
           a
           large
           and
           ill-shaped
           Character
           methought
           )
           ,
           but
           withheld
           ,
           referring
           me
           till
           the
           fore-mentioned
           three
           days
           term
           .
           I
           in
           fine
           ,
           asked
           how
           she
           could
           avoid
           suspition
           ,
           if
           so
           many
           Letters
           were
           directed
           to
           her
           in
           her
           own
           name
           ?
           She
           told
           me
           she
           had
           taken
           a
           good
           care
           for
           that
           ,
           because
           her
           Correspondents
           writ
           to
           her
           under
           several
           names
           by
           which
           they
           called
           her
           ,
           and
           part
           of
           her
           Letters
           were
           directed
           to
           Mr.
           Conne
           a
           Scotch-man
           ,
           living
           at
           Paris
           as
           Agent
           for
           the
           Pope
           ,
           others
           were
           addressed
           to
           Mr.
           Dallison
           her
           Scotch
           Physician
           there
           ,
           some
           to
           Father
           Joseph
           ,
           Prior
           of
           the
           English
           Benedictines
           at
           Paris
           ,
           who
           was
           her
           Confessor
           .
        
         
           II.
           Now
           in
           the
           interval
           ,
           having
           before
           been
           recommended
           by
           Dr.
           Brien
           ,
           Dr.
           Molony
           Priests
           ,
           and
           others
           ,
           to
           Colonel
           
             Richard
             Talbot
          
           ,
           and
           to
           his
           Brother
           Peter
           (
           the
           pretended
           Archbishop
           of
           Dublin
           )
           for
           a
           person
           that
           carried
           on
           business
           after
           the
           formalities
           of
           the
           Court
           of
           France
           ,
           and
           the
           Colonel
           himself
           having
           made
           some
           tryal
           of
           me
           ;
           he
           on
           a
           time
           desired
           me
           to
           be
           assistant
           to
           his
           Brother
           the
           Bishop
           ,
           not
           long
           since
           come
           out
           of
           England
           :
           The
           Bishop
           desired
           I
           should
           go
           and
           complement
           on
           his
           behalf
           ,
           the
           Marshal
           Bellefond
           (
           Grand
           Steward
           to
           the
           King
           of
           
             France
             )
          
           ,
           and
           know
           when
           he
           might
           be
           introduced
           by
           him
           to
           the
           Kings
           Audience
           about
           the
           business
           whereof
           he
           treated
           with
           the
           Marshal
           himself
           while
           he
           was
           in
           England
           as
           Ambassador
           (
           in
           or
           about
           the
           year
           1670.
           )
        
         
           The
           Marshal
           being
           then
           at
           Court
           ,
           kept
           at
           Versaile
           ,
           the
           Bishop
           would
           have
           one
           Mr.
           Moore
           ,
           a
           Priest
           and
           Philosophy-Professor
           at
           Paris
           ,
           to
           accompany
           us
           thither
           on
           the
           next
           day
           ,
           having
           lain
           that
           night
           at
           Versaile
           ;
           and
           the
           Bishop
           striving
           to
           make
           us
           all
           merry
           on
           the
           good
           Catholick
           Causes
           success
           ,
           I
           took
           that
           opportunity
           to
           
           enquire
           ,
           whether
           he
           thought
           it
           not
           fit
           to
           communicate
           unto
           me
           the
           Heads
           and
           Grounds
           of
           this
           affair
           wherein
           he
           was
           pleased
           to
           make
           me
           his
           Speaker
           and
           Introducer
           at
           Court
           ,
           lest
           ,
           said
           I
           ,
           any
           occasion
           might
           happen
           for
           me
           to
           second
           it
           .
           The
           business
           that
           I
           am
           to
           represent
           to
           the
           King
           of
           France
           is
           this
           :
        
         
           
           I.
           It
           is
           a
           business
           ,
           said
           he
           ,
           which
           mightily
           concerns
           the
           welfare
           of
           the
           Catholicks
           in
           England
           ,
           and
           of
           those
           in
           Ireland
           especially
           .
        
         
           II.
           That
           he
           was
           to
           propose
           ways
           to
           the
           King
           of
           France
           ,
           whereby
           to
           relieve
           them
           in
           their
           present
           extremities
           and
           persecutions
           ,
           and
           for
           to
           undertake
           their
           protection
           ;
           and
           some
           of
           his
           ways
           was
           to
           Arm
           some
           Irish
           ,
           and
           to
           secure
           some
           Sea-Port
           Town
           in
           Ireland
           for
           the
           French.
           
        
         
           III.
           He
           said
           that
           he
           had
           a
           special
           good
           Warrant
           and
           Commission
           for
           this
           his
           Negotiation
           from
           some
           of
           the
           greatest
           persons
           in
           England
           .
        
         
           IV.
           That
           he
           was
           to
           solicit
           his
           Christian
           Majesty
           for
           a
           Pension
           ,
           or
           the
           Arrears
           payable
           to
           himself
           .
           The
           next
           morning
           I
           went
           to
           the
           Kings
           Rising
           to
           acquaint
           the
           Marshal
           Bellefond
           ,
           that
           the
           Archbishop
           Talbot
           was
           in
           Town
           to
           wait
           on
           His
           Majesty
           and
           Him
           ;
           he
           wish't
           me
           to
           introduce
           him
           :
           The
           Marshal
           knew
           him
           at
           first
           sight
           ,
           and
           imbraced
           him
           ,
           and
           acquainted
           the
           King
           with
           his
           coming
           ;
           His
           Majesty
           receiving
           him
           with
           great
           civility
           ,
           led
           him
           into
           a
           private
           Room
           ,
           where
           Mr.
           Moore
           and
           I
           following
           them
           ,
           he
           beck'ned
           to
           Mr.
           Moore
           that
           had
           the
           paper
           ,
           to
           advance
           :
           But
           I
           from
           the
           doorward
           saw
           the
           Bishop
           present
           a
           Letter
           to
           the
           King
           ,
           and
           other
           papers
           ,
           which
           I
           think
           were
           sealed
           .
           I
           over-heard
           he
           spoke
           in
           Italian
           at
           first
           entrance
           ,
           their
           Conference
           lasted
           about
           half
           an
           hour
           ;
           and
           though
           that
           King
           is
           somewhat
           of
           a
           Grave
           ,
           and
           somewhat
           Morose
           temper
           ,
           yet
           he
           often
           smiled
           ,
           as
           at
           Propositions
           that
           pleased
           him
           .
        
         
           But
           at
           our
           coming
           out
           from
           Court
           ,
           I
           enquired
           of
           the
           Bishop
           of
           the
           good
           success
           of
           his
           Negotiation
           ,
           which
           I
           told
           him
           seemed
           to
           be
           of
           other
           or
           more
           matters
           then
           he
           acquainted
           me
           with
           .
           No
           ,
           said
           he
           ,
           't
           is
           but
           of
           the
           same
           matter
           I
           spoke
           to
           you
           of
           last
           night
           ;
           
           whereof
           he
           said
           ,
           I
           should
           know
           more
           ,
           seeing
           he
           must
           come
           to
           Court
           again
           and
           again
           about
           it
           ,
           though
           the
           King
           (
           continued
           he
           )
           promised
           all
           possible
           satisfaction
           and
           hopes
           of
           a
           good
           issue
           .
           So
           ,
           not
           to
           increase
           suspicion
           by
           further
           inquiries
           ,
           I
           urged
           him
           no
           more
           ,
           but
           departed
           from
           him
           for
           that
           time
           to
           Paris
           .
           Yet
           note
           ,
           that
           Mr.
           Moore
           did
           also
           generally
           touch
           unto
           me
           the
           Matters
           of
           the
           aforesaid
           Articles
           and
           Plot
           ,
           having
           heard
           it
           from
           the
           said
           Bishop
           ,
           
             Peter
             Talbot
          
           ,
           and
           his
           papers
           .
        
         
           And
           further
           observe
           ,
           That
           one
           Mr.
           Conne
           a
           Scotch-man
           (
           who
           was
           formerly
           the
           Popes
           Nuncio
           ,
           and
           then
           his
           Agent
           at
           Paris
           )
           had
           almost
           every
           day
           private
           Conferences
           with
           both
           the
           Talbots
           ,
           and
           went
           betwixt
           them
           ,
           their
           Nuncio
           ,
           then
           being
           at
           Paris
           ;
           and
           that
           the
           Talbots
           and
           this
           Conne
           came
           often
           to
           my
           Lady
           
             Anne
             Huntleys
          
           ,
           though
           my
           Lady
           had
           also
           another
           pretext
           to
           see
           Conne
           .
           The
           very
           same
           night
           I
           did
           communicate
           all
           that
           past
           in
           this
           Peter
           Talbot's
           Negotiation
           to
           Sir
           
             Robert
             Welsh
          
           ,
           as
           I
           had
           done
           before
           that
           other
           Plot
           of
           Lady
           Huntleys
           ,
           both
           fearing
           lest
           this
           grand
           secret
           might
           dye
           with
           me
           ,
           I
           having
           many
           Enemies
           daily
           threatning
           me
           then
           at
           Paris
           ;
           and
           for
           that
           this
           Sir
           Robert
           was
           a
           man
           that
           still
           made
           much
           profession
           of
           his
           Actings
           ,
           Sufferings
           ,
           and
           Loyalty
           for
           the
           King
           of
           England
           ,
           in
           such
           former
           discoveries
           ;
           but
           Sir
           Roberts
           truer
           Character
           I
           found
           out
           too
           late
           .
        
         
           However
           Sir
           Robert
           most
           unfaithfully
           forthwith
           discovered
           all
           to
           Colonel
           Talbot
           ,
           both
           that
           of
           my
           Lady
           Huntleys
           ,
           and
           the
           Talbots
           business
           ;
           and
           that
           I
           intended
           speedily
           to
           go
           for
           England
           to
           accuse
           both
           him
           and
           his
           brother
           Peter
           ;
           the
           Colonel
           feigning
           to
           keep
           his
           bed
           ,
           desires
           to
           speak
           with
           me
           at
           his
           own
           Lodging
           .
           The
           Circumstances
           of
           the
           message
           with
           the
           Premisses
           weighed
           ,
           I
           took
           one
           or
           two
           along
           with
           me
           to
           his
           very
           ▪
           Chamber
           door
           on
           another
           pretext
           ;
           he
           presently
           desired
           to
           know
           when
           I
           intended
           for
           England
           ,
           and
           when
           I
           had
           seen
           Sir
           
             Robert
             Welsh
          
           .
           But
           by
           this
           much
           ,
           forthwith
           perceiving
           I
           was
           betrayed
           ;
           I
           pretended
           another
           occasion
           of
           that
           voyage
           ;
           for
           which
           besides
           I
           seemed
           not
           to
           be
           very
           earnest
           ,
           if
           either
           in
           Paris
           ,
           or
           with
           the
           now
           Dutchess
           of
           York
           (
           then
           at
           Paris
           )
           he
           would
           procure
           me
           some
           fit
           employment
           of
           Secretary
           ,
           or
           Usher
           .
           And
           at
           first
           he
           went
           about
           to
           perswade
           me
           from
           coming
           
           over
           into
           England
           at
           all
           .
           Then
           began
           to
           threaten
           me
           manfully
           ;
           and
           if
           he
           heard
           I
           did
           otherwise
           than
           I
           said
           ,
           in
           stealing
           away
           for
           England
           on
           such
           occasions
           against
           them
           and
           the
           Catholicks
           ,
           they
           would
           infallibly
           procure
           I
           should
           be
           forthwith
           committed
           to
           the
           Tower
           of
           London
           or
           the
           Gate-house
           ,
           at
           my
           arrival
           ;
           which
           accordingly
           happened
           according
           to
           his
           spightful
           prophesie
           ,
           about
           seven
           days
           after
           I
           arrived
           at
           London
           .
        
         
           That
           seeing
           the
           effect
           of
           his
           threatnings
           fall
           out
           so
           punctually
           ,
           and
           not
           doubting
           thereupon
           ,
           but
           that
           he
           ,
           with
           Sir
           
             Robert
             Welsh
          
           ,
           and
           Correspondents
           here
           ,
           were
           the
           secret
           Contrivers
           of
           my
           four
           years
           close
           imprisonment
           in
           the
           Tower
           (
           though
           a
           very
           remote
           surprise
           was
           put
           in
           by
           them
           for
           pretext
           )
           therefore
           I
           said
           I
           was
           afraid
           to
           charge
           them
           much
           ,
           and
           but
           warily
           ,
           whilst
           I
           was
           in
           the
           Tower
           ,
           fearing
           to
           fare
           the
           worse
           by
           the
           means
           of
           any
           secret
           friend
           of
           theirs
           .
        
         
           
             EVIDENCES
             .
          
           
             THE
             aforesaid
             Sir
             
               Robert
               Welsh
            
             his
             Evidence
             ,
             now
             in
             London
             ,
             may
             first
             confirm
             the
             truth
             of
             this
             my
             Information
             ;
             for
             he
             being
             now
             in
             London
             ,
             can
             witness
             that
             I
             disclosed
             to
             him
             all
             the
             said
             Treasons
             about
             five
             years
             since
             ,
             in
             or
             about
             the
             Month
             of
             November
             1673
             ;
             so
             that
             it
             cannot
             be
             imagined
             that
             this
             my
             Information
             is
             some
             new
             matter
             fitted
             for
             the
             times
             against
             Papists
             ;
             nor
             that
             it
             is
             some
             odious
             new-coined
             slander
             ,
             according
             to
             the
             humour
             and
             device
             of
             some
             dissenting
             parties
             (
             as
             Papists
             cavil
             )
             ,
             seeing
             that
             by
             four
             or
             five
             witnesses
             hereafter
             mentioned
             ,
             who
             are
             none
             of
             my
             Friends
             ,
             it
             undeniably
             appears
             that
             I
             discovered
             this
             said
             Plot
             many
             years
             before
             these
             times
             were
             thought
             of
             ;
             nay
             ,
             and
             in
             such
             a
             time
             when
             I
             never
             had
             seen
             England
             ,
             or
             knew
             any
             person
             there
             ,
             either
             by
             Letters
             or
             otherwise
             (
             except
             such
             Officers
             of
             the
             Army
             that
             were
             then
             in
             
               France
               )
            
             .
          
           
             I.
             I
             did
             not
             know
             but
             that
             Sir
             
               Robert
               Welsh
            
             or
             some
             other
             had
             hinted
             these
             matters
             to
             some
             Minister
             of
             State.
             
          
           
             II.
             I
             began
             to
             discover
             some
             of
             these
             matters
             to
             Sir
             John
             
             Robinson
             at
             the
             beginning
             of
             my
             imprisonment
             ;
             but
             whether
             it
             was
             through
             any
             defect
             of
             my
             delivery
             ,
             or
             that
             he
             took
             such
             Relations
             for
             a
             devised
             starting
             from
             the
             only
             point
             he
             would
             have
             me
             confess
             against
             the
             Duke
             of
             Monmouth
             ,
             against
             whom
             I
             never
             conceived
             the
             least
             harm
             ;
             but
             whatever
             it
             was
             for
             ,
             Sir
             John
             made
             light
             of
             my
             Narration
             concerning
             the
             Lady
             Huntley
             and
             the
             said
             Talbots
             business
             ,
             which
             I
             am
             sure
             I
             began
             to
             relate
             to
             him
             ,
             at
             the
             least
             in
             substance
             ;
             but
             how
             far
             he
             suffered
             me
             to
             proceed
             ,
             I
             cannot
             now
             well
             remember
             ,
             both
             for
             that
             there
             's
             above
             four
             years
             since
             ,
             and
             for
             the
             hard
             usages
             wherewith
             he
             still
             troubled
             my
             mind
             (
             whereof
             neither
             His
             Majesty
             nor
             the
             Duke
             of
             Monmouth
             knew
             their
             continuance
             so
             long
             )
             as
             my
             Lord
             of
             Northampton
             told
             me
             .
          
           
             III.
             And
             since
             my
             enlargement
             at
             the
             very
             beginning
             of
             this
             Parliament
             ,
             I
             yet
             went
             to
             the
             Tower
             to
             desire
             Sir
             John
             to
             second
             me
             for
             the
             discovering
             of
             the
             said
             matters
             ;
             but
             he
             at
             my
             first
             speaking
             rejected
             my
             proposal
             ,
             referring
             me
             to
             the
             Secretaries
             .
             And
             truly
             I
             would
             as
             heartily
             have
             applied
             my self
             to
             the
             Secretaries
             as
             to
             any
             ,
             but
             that
             I
             feared
             ,
             lest
             of
             some
             errors
             which
             might
             be
             found
             in
             my
             carrying
             on
             this
             business
             ,
             they
             would
             be
             more
             likely
             to
             charge
             me
             therewith
             ,
             as
             parties
             for
             the
             King
             and
             Laws
             ,
             than
             any
             other
             chief
             Parliament-members
             ,
             who
             would
             be
             more
             fit
             to
             intercede
             for
             me
             ,
             and
             more
             at
             leisure
             to
             sue
             out
             a
             pardon
             for
             me
             ,
             if
             need
             were
             .
          
           
             IV.
             In
             fine
             ,
             Col.
             
               Justin
               Maccarty
            
             ,
             being
             then
             at
             Paris
             when
             these
             matters
             were
             vented
             out
             of
             Sir
             Robert
             ,
             of
             my
             accusing
             the
             Lady
             Huntley
             and
             the
             Talbots
             ,
             he
             ,
             I
             say
             ,
             with
             some
             of
             his
             Officers
             ,
             can
             testifie
             that
             such
             a
             Report
             came
             out
             then
             ,
             some
             years
             since
             ,
             if
             they
             would
             speak
             truth
             .
          
           
             V.
             Nay
             ,
             and
             one
             Capt.
             Barret
             ,
             with
             several
             other
             Officers
             that
             were
             beyond
             seas
             ,
             told
             me
             about
             a
             fortnight
             ago
             ,
             that
             the
             report
             went
             amongst
             the
             Irish
             ,
             That
             the
             Talbots
             were
             committed
             upon
             my
             Information
             ,
             though
             I
             never
             spoke
             of
             them
             these
             four
             years
             till
             now
             ;
             but
             that
             by
             a
             fore-boding
             guilt
             they
             knew
             perfectly
             ,
             and
             heard
             I
             had
             grounds
             enough
             wherewith
             to
             accuse
             them
             ;
             so
             that
             the
             Irish
             Catholicks
             here
             did
             threaten
             me
             ,
             alledging
             me
             to
             be
             an
             abettor
             of
             Mr.
             
             Oate's
             Informations
             
             against
             them
             ,
             which
             he
             neither
             needs
             ,
             nor
             did
             I
             ever
             see
             him
             but
             in
             publike
             ,
             before
             I
             gave
             in
             this
             Information
             ;
             nor
             Bedlow
             .
             Besides
             ,
             that
             it
             appears
             I
             made
             the
             discovery
             of
             the
             Plot
             ,
             and
             the
             aforesaid
             matters
             ,
             before
             they
             ,
             had
             I
             not
             had
             some
             of
             the
             Trojan
             Prophetesses
             ill
             fortune
             ;
             yet
             in
             time
             I
             hope
             I
             shall
             be
             able
             to
             recollect
             more
             of
             the
             particulars
             of
             the
             matters
             and
             persons
             herein
             mentioned
             .
          
           
             
               EDMUND
               EVERARD
               .
            
             
               Jurat
               .
               coram
               me
               
                 4
                 April
                 1679.
                 
              
            
             
               WILLIAM
               WALLER
               .
            
          
        
      
       
         
         
           The
           Information
           of
           Mr.
           
             EDMOND
             EVERARD
          
           ,
           taken
           upon
           OATH
           before
           Sir
           
             WILLIAM
             WALLER
          
           ,
           one
           of
           His
           Majesties
           Justices
           of
           the
           Peace
           for
           the
           County
           of
           Middlesex
           ,
           and
           City
           and
           Liberties
           of
           Westminster
           ,
           this
           Fourth
           of
           
             APRIL
             1679.
          
           
        
         
           THE
           true
           Contrivers
           of
           my
           Imprisonment
           were
           the
           Talbots
           and
           Lady
           Huntley
           ,
           who
           for
           discovering
           of
           their
           Plotings
           ,
           threatned
           me
           in
           express
           words
           ,
           
             That
             if
             ever
             I
             came
             over
             into
          
           England
           ,
           
             on
             that
             Design
             ,
             I
             would
             be
             secured
             in
             the
          
           Tower
           or
           Gate-House
           ;
           
             or
             if
             I
             remained
             in
          
           France
           ,
           
             they
             would
             get
             me
             laid
             fast
             enough
             :
          
           They
           put
           these
           Threatnings
           into
           Execution
           ,
           for
           though
           both
           they
           and
           I
           were
           seemingly
           reconciled
           ,
           yet
           they
           made
           such
           a
           Search
           for
           me
           in
           Paris
           ,
           that
           I
           was
           faign
           to
           change
           Lodgings
           very
           often
           into
           remote
           and
           by-places
           ;
           and
           when
           I
           was
           on
           my
           Journey
           for
           England
           ,
           one
           or
           two
           of
           my
           own
           servants
           ,
           whom
           I
           dismist
           at
           Paris
           ,
           seeing
           me
           take
           Coach
           privately
           ,
           carried
           them
           word
           of
           it
           ,
           and
           for
           some
           pretence
           or
           other
           they
           sent
           one
           Mr.
           Perrig
           ,
           who
           was
           their
           acquaintance
           and
           
           Huntley's
           chief
           friend
           ,
           in
           post
           to
           apprehend
           me
           ;
           whereof
           Sir
           
             Edward
             Hungerford
          
           ,
           of
           this
           Honourable
           House
           ,
           can
           testifie
           from
           a
           Friend
           of
           his
           ,
           who
           heard
           the
           same
           from
           
           Perrig's
           mouth
           (
           that
           is
           now
           dead
           .
           )
           And
           it
           's
           to
           be
           remark'd
           ,
           that
           he
           could
           not
           pursue
           or
           apprehend
           a
           stranger
           in
           France
           ,
           but
           in
           a
           concern
           against
           the
           King
           of
           that
           Countrey
           ;
           who
           rather
           gives
           protection
           to
           strangers
           that
           are
           pursued
           on
           any
           other
           Account
           .
           Before
           the
           Talbots
           fell
           out
           with
           me
           ,
           and
           when
           I
           first
           determined
           in
           my
           own
           mind
           to
           come
           over
           privately
           into
           England
           ,
           I
           inquired
           of
           one
           of
           the
           
           Talbot's
           servants
           (
           who
           was
           my
           Countreyman
           )
           where
           one
           might
           take
           
           cheap
           and
           friendly
           Lodgings
           in
           London
           ,
           till
           one
           were
           in
           fit
           Equipage
           (
           I
           having
           never
           been
           in
           England
           before
           )
           he
           directed
           me
           to
           one
           
           Kenedy's
           House
           at
           the
           
             Pall
             Mall
          
           ,
           or
           to
           another
           Countreyman's
           House
           of
           his
           in
           St.
           
           Martin's
           Lane
           ,
           at
           the
           Sign
           of
           the
           Patrick
           ;
           the
           first
           night
           and
           hour
           I
           came
           to
           that
           House
           I
           told
           them
           my
           ▪
           Name
           and
           Imployment
           from
           the
           Duke
           of
           Monmouth
           ,
           and
           that
           it
           was
           fit
           I
           should
           go
           and
           wait
           on
           him
           immediately
           ,
           lest
           he
           should
           take
           it
           ill
           ;
           and
           desned
           my
           Landlord
           to
           send
           for
           some
           Link-boy
           that
           knew
           his
           Grace's
           House
           ,
           where
           I
           repaired
           forthwith
           ;
           but
           not
           finding
           his
           Grace
           at
           home
           ,
           I
           acquainted
           some
           of
           the
           servants
           of
           my
           Arrival
           ▪
           to
           notifie
           to
           his
           Grace
           :
           The
           next
           day
           I
           came
           ,
           he
           also
           was
           abroad
           earlier
           than
           ordinary
           ,
           on
           some
           Riding
           or
           Recreation
           Account
           :
           I
           But
           unto
           Gentlemen
           of
           his
           Chamber
           ,
           Mr.
           Champins
           and
           
             St.
             Giles
          
           ,
           I
           told
           I
           would
           gladly
           come
           to
           kiss
           his
           Grace's
           hand
           ,
           and
           confer
           about
           Business
           ,
           in
           whatever
           company
           he
           were
           in
           ;
           so
           that
           Captain
           Watson
           and
           Mr.
           Vernon
           were
           not
           present
           ,
           who
           were
           my
           Enemies
           on
           private
           Accounts
           ,
           and
           would
           move
           his
           Grace
           doubtlesly
           against
           me
           ,
           not
           to
           grant
           me
           my
           Request
           ;
           which
           partly
           was
           some
           Arrears
           or
           an
           Imployment
           .
        
         
           The
           next
           day
           I
           being
           ill
           ,
           was
           let
           blood
           and
           kept
           my
           Chamber
           a
           day
           or
           two
           :
           I
           think
           the
           Sunday
           morning
           I
           went
           to
           visit
           Lieutenant
           Collonel
           Trelany
           ,
           who
           meeting
           accidently
           a
           day
           or
           two
           before
           ,
           I
           came
           to
           re-visit
           on
           this
           Sunday
           morning
           ,
           who
           at
           my
           first
           sight
           found
           more
           than
           ordinarily
           disturbed
           ,
           and
           courteously
           desired
           to
           know
           my
           Lodgings
           ,
           and
           whether
           I
           had
           seen
           the
           Duke
           ?
           I
           told
           him
           of
           the
           sorry
           Dwelling
           I
           had
           taken
           up
           for
           a
           little
           time
           ,
           and
           that
           I
           would
           gladly
           see
           his
           Grace
           without
           the
           side
           enemies
           and
           with
           him
           :
           He
           desired
           me
           to
           accompany
           him
           to
           Whitehall
           Chappel
           ,
           where
           I
           might
           at
           the
           least
           be
           seen
           of
           his
           Grace
           .
           (
           Thither
           we
           went
           )
           But
           the
           Collonel
           desiring
           me
           to
           stay
           about
           the
           Chappel
           Door
           ,
           thronged
           in
           with
           great
           haste
           ,
           without
           coming
           out
           to
           me
           afterwards
           :
           In
           the
           mean
           time
           hearing
           of
           Organs
           and
           Children
           singing
           in
           Surplusses
           ,
           as
           I
           had
           seen
           and
           heard
           in
           the
           
             French
             Kings
             Chappel
          
           ,
           where
           I
           perceived
           some
           of
           the
           
             English
             Nobility
          
           come
           as
           freely
           as
           here
           ;
           I
           did
           not
           know
           what
           to
           think
           ,
           whether
           I
           had
           not
           been
           too
           forward
           in
           speaking
           of
           any
           Discoveries
           against
           that
           Religion
           which
           might
           be
           perhaps
           of
           late
           
           changed
           in
           England
           :
           for
           that
           I
           had
           not
           heard
           or
           seen
           such
           things
           in
           the
           
             French
             Church
          
           at
           Charenton
           ,
           where
           I
           only
           took
           my
           Idea
           of
           Protestanism
           ;
           but
           this
           erronious
           state
           of
           things
           (
           that
           I
           now
           know
           to
           be
           indifferent
           )
           did
           however
           make
           me
           pause
           in
           my
           Discoveries
           ;
           but
           whilst
           in
           these
           thoughts
           ,
           Captain
           Watson
           stept
           out
           of
           the
           Chappel
           ,
           who
           looking
           on
           me
           a-squint
           ,
           went
           down
           the
           
             Privy
             Stairs
          
           in
           one
           end
           ,
           and
           the
           other
           Watson
           his
           Nephew
           ,
           speaking
           a
           word
           or
           two
           to
           me
           more
           coldly
           than
           ordinarily
           ,
           went
           out
           through
           the
           
             Guard
             Hall
          
           ,
           to
           the
           other
           Stairs
           ,
           and
           presently
           follows
           in
           the
           
           King's
           company
           the
           Duke
           of
           Monmouth
           ;
           who
           eying
           me
           only
           ,
           past
           by
           :
           at
           all
           which
           passages
           of
           indifferency
           from
           former
           friends
           I
           was
           astonish'd
           .
           But
           I
           was
           in
           
             Scarlet
             Breeches
          
           and
           Stockings
           ,
           so
           that
           I
           could
           be
           easily
           discerned
           and
           dogg'd
           to
           my
           Lodgings
           ;
           where
           I
           went
           presently
           from
           Chappel
           .
        
         
           Within
           two
           days
           after
           two
           men
           brought
           a
           Paper
           to
           my
           said
           Lodging
           ,
           signed
           by
           the
           Secretary
           whereupon
           he
           said
           he
           must
           needs
           speak
           with
           me
           :
           I
           inquired
           for
           what
           ?
           but
           they
           could
           not
           or
           would
           not
           tell
           me
           ;
           but
           it
           seems
           by
           their
           expressions
           to
           my
           Landlord
           ,
           they
           were
           with
           him
           the
           day
           before
           to
           inquire
           for
           me
           :
           and
           they
           could
           tell
           that
           I
           had
           been
           last
           Sunday
           at
           Morning
           Prayers
           at
           Whitehall
           ,
           and
           there
           also
           seen
           the
           same
           Night
           amongst
           others
           :
           After
           break-fasting
           peaceably
           ,
           I
           went
           with
           them
           to
           Whitehall
           ,
           not
           thinking
           this
           any
           Commitment
           Business
           .
           I
           told
           my
           Landlord
           I
           thought
           I
           would
           be
           back
           within
           an
           hour
           .
           The
           Secretary
           at
           my
           arrival
           ,
           inquiring
           of
           my
           Name
           ,
           told
           me
           he
           would
           go
           and
           speak
           with
           the
           King
           about
           me
           ;
           which
           I
           know
           not
           whether
           he
           did
           so
           ,
           or
           no
           :
           but
           returning
           soon
           after
           spake
           not
           one
           word
           to
           me
           ,
           but
           going
           into
           his
           Clerk
           ,
           he
           sent
           out
           the
           same
           Messengers
           ,
           who
           called
           me
           into
           the
           
             Stone
             Gallery
          
           ;
           who
           said
           they
           had
           Orders
           to
           carry
           me
           to
           the
           Tower
           ,
           but
           for
           what
           they
           could
           not
           tell
           me
           .
        
         
           Sir
           
             John
             Robinson
          
           after
           my
           Arrival
           entertained
           me
           to
           Dinner
           ,
           which
           continued
           in
           the
           company
           of
           his
           Lady
           and
           Solicitor
           ,
           in
           a
           free
           and
           cheerful
           manner
           in
           Discourse
           of
           the
           French
           Customs
           ,
           and
           of
           his
           Son
           ,
           whom
           I
           knew
           at
           Paris
           .
        
         
         
           After
           Dinner
           ,
           and
           having
           had
           a
           Nap
           with
           his
           Chaplain
           ,
           who
           came
           in
           ,
           Sir
           John
           inquired
           of
           me
           ,
           Whether
           I
           were
           not
           a
           
             Roman
             Catholique
          
           ?
           I
           told
           them
           I
           had
           been
           such
           ,
           but
           not
           one
           of
           late
           ;
           and
           whether
           I
           was
           in
           Orders
           ?
           I
           told
           them
           never
           ▪
           inquiring
           whether
           I
           knew
           for
           what
           I
           was
           committed
           ?
           I
           told
           them
           no
           ,
           no
           ;
           No
           more
           do
           I
           ,
           said
           Sir
           John
           ,
           but
           in
           the
           general
           ;
           afterwards
           he
           sent
           for
           one
           Captain
           Cresset
           ,
           the
           then
           Gentleman
           Goaler
           ,
           he
           read
           unto
           me
           a
           Paper
           ,
           he
           called
           his
           Warrant
           ,
           which
           being
           but
           in
           general
           words
           ,
           and
           giving
           me
           no
           Copy
           of
           it
           ,
           made
           no
           such
           impression
           upon
           me
           ,
           as
           now
           to
           remember
           the
           Contents
           ;
           for
           I
           thought
           it
           was
           but
           some
           Tower
           formality
           ,
           wherewith
           others
           were
           served
           as
           well
           as
           I
           :
           for
           Sir
           John
           never
           explained
           nor
           insisted
           upon
           it
           ,
           no
           more
           did
           I
           ,
           but
           followed
           Captain
           Cresset
           to
           my
           appointed
           Lodging
           ;
           which
           was
           convenient
           enough
           ,
           as
           also
           the
           Diet
           :
           so
           that
           at
           the
           beginning
           I
           being
           not
           lock'd
           up
           neither
           day
           nor
           night
           ,
           for
           a
           Month
           or
           thereabouts
           ,
           and
           giving
           my self
           to
           reading
           an
           
             English
             Chronicle
          
           that
           belonged
           to
           my
           Landlord
           ,
           I
           unconcernedly
           expected
           a
           speedy
           enlargement
           ,
           after
           the
           Duke
           of
           Monmouth
           should
           come
           to
           hear
           of
           my
           Imprisonment
           ;
           unto
           whom
           I
           desired
           Sir
           John
           to
           give
           notice
           of
           it
           ;
           but
           I
           had
           no
           return
           .
        
         
           After
           some
           Months
           ,
           Sir
           John
           sent
           for
           me
           ,
           and
           said
           he
           had
           Order
           to
           examine
           me
           ;
           he
           inquired
           ,
           What
           and
           whom
           I
           verily
           thought
           were
           the
           Causes
           of
           my
           Imprisonment
           ?
           I
           told
           him
           that
           the
           Lady
           
             Anne
             Gourdon
          
           ,
           alias
           Huntley
           ,
           with
           
             Peter
             Talbot
          
           ,
           Titular
           Bilhop
           of
           Dublin
           ,
           were
           assuredly
           the
           Causes
           of
           it
           ;
           and
           might
           well
           contrive
           by
           other
           Instruments
           some
           false
           Accusation
           against
           me
           ,
           for
           to
           weaken
           the
           testimony
           I
           was
           to
           give
           against
           them
           of
           their
           plotting
           against
           England
           :
           for
           that
           the
           said
           Lady
           had
           informed
           me
           of
           a
           Design
           the
           
             English
             Catholiques
          
           had
           against
           the
           
             King's
             Person
          
           ,
           his
           Government
           ,
           and
           Religion
           ;
           and
           that
           she
           had
           correspondency
           with
           her
           Brother
           the
           Marquiss
           of
           Huntley
           ,
           my
           Lord
           of
           Rothes
           ,
           my
           Lord
           of
           Oxenford
           of
           Scotland
           ,
           and
           other
           Catholiques
           and
           Priests
           ,
           this
           side
           and
           beyond
           Seas
           :
           That
           the
           said
           
             Peter
             Talbot
          
           ,
           before
           I
           brought
           him
           to
           the
           French
           King's
           presence
           ,
           told
           me
           ,
           That
           he
           was
           to
           treat
           with
           that
           King
           from
           soine
           very
           great
           Person
           or
           Persons
           in
           England
           ,
           for
           to
           raise
           men
           in
           Ireland
           for
           the
           
             French
             King
          
           ,
           and
           that
           I
           had
           declared
           these
           things
           in
           France
           to
           one
           Sir
           
             Robert
             Welsh
          
           ,
           who
           
           desired
           me
           to
           acquaint
           the
           Duke
           of
           Ormond
           therewith
           .
           So
           Sir
           John
           being
           in
           haste
           to
           go
           to
           Whitehall
           ,
           took
           these
           Heads
           in
           his
           Table-book
           ,
           and
           said
           he
           would
           acquaint
           them
           above
           with
           it
           ;
           but
           bid
           me
           not
           to
           mention
           the
           Duke
           of
           Ormond
           at
           all
           ,
           for
           he
           was
           a
           goodman
           .
           I
           bring
           him
           in
           onely
           by
           occasion
           ,
           said
           I.
           Next
           day
           Sir
           John
           sent
           for
           me
           ,
           and
           desiring
           to
           know
           what
           other
           things
           I
           could
           say
           ,
           I
           began
           to
           particularize
           the
           forementioned
           relations
           of
           the
           Plot
           ;
           but
           he
           broke
           me
           off
           of
           that
           ,
           saying
           ,
           
             That
             these
             were
             but
             trifles
             ,
             and
             that
             we
             cared
             not
             in
          
           England
           
             what
             Priests
             and
             Women
             beyond
             Seas
             ,
             could
             devise
             ;
             and
             that
             he
             took
             such
             Stories
             from
             me
             but
             as
             starting-holes
             from
             the
             only
             point
             he
             had
             to
             urge
             against
             me
             .
             That
             unless
             I
             would
             confess
             other
             matters
             against
             the
             Duke
             of
          
           Monmouth
           ,
           
             he
             would
             rack
             me
             next
             day
             ,
             and
             afterwards
             hang
             me
             .
          
           I
           said
           ,
           
             He
             might
             do
             what
             he
             pleased
             ,
             but
             that
             I
             neither
             knew
             or
             could
             confess
             any
             such
             Design
             :
          
           And
           so
           I
           was
           sent
           back
           to
           my
           Lodging
           ,
           but
           my
           forwardness
           to
           speak
           ever
           afterwards
           of
           any
           Plot
           against
           England
           was
           well
           abated
           ,
           by
           this
           Storm
           .
           I
           desired
           my
           Keepers
           Wife
           and
           Child
           ,
           here
           present
           to
           pray
           for
           me
           ,
           for
           that
           I
           was
           to
           be
           rack'd
           the
           next
           day
           .
           I
           asked
           my
           Keeper
           ,
           
             What
             a
             Rack
             was
             ?
             An
             Instrument
             ,
          
           said
           he
           ,
           
             to
             stretch
             the
             Body
             and
             Limbs
             out
             of
             all
             joynts
             ,
             sometimes
             full
             of
             Needles
             ;
             and
             that
             it
             was
             called
             the
             Daughter
             of
             some
             Duke
             .
             I
             do
             not
             now
             remember
             which
             .
          
           But
           this
           Family
           being
           weak
           persons
           ,
           were
           themselves
           frightned
           at
           this
           sad
           and
           terrible
           threatnings
           ;
           alledging
           ,
           
             That
             none
             was
             ever
             carried
             to
             be
             executed
             out
             of
             their
             house
             .
          
        
         
           Sometime
           afterwards
           I
           was
           sent
           for
           to
           be
           examined
           ,
           to
           Whitehall
           ,
           before
           the
           Secretary
           ,
           my
           Lord
           of
           Bath
           ,
           of
           Newport
           ,
           and
           some
           others
           ,
           I
           never
           saw
           before
           :
           They
           inquired
           ,
           Whether
           I
           had
           been
           imployed
           under
           the
           Duke
           of
           Monmouth
           ?
           And
           whether
           I
           knew
           some
           other
           persons
           ,
           I
           do
           not
           now
           remember
           my self
           ?
           with
           such
           other
           Questions
           ;
           out
           of
           which
           I
           could
           not
           yet
           know
           certainly
           the
           Cause
           of
           my
           Commitment
           ;
           for
           no
           body
           appeared
           against
           me
           ,
           as
           I
           think
           ,
           at
           that
           time
           ,
           one
           only
           at
           the
           second
           time
           :
           So
           they
           in
           a
           general
           manner
           urged
           me
           still
           to
           confess
           ,
           to
           confess
           ,
           what
           evil
           Design
           I
           had
           in
           coming
           to
           England
           :
           I
           said
           still
           ,
           
             I
             had
             none
             ,
             nor
             could
             I
             confess
             any
             :
          
           And
           so
           was
           sent
           back
           to
           the
           Tower.
           Some
           Weeks
           or
           Months
           afterward
           I
           was
           sent
           for
           to
           Whiteball
           again
           ,
           where
           one
           Dallison
           ,
           who
           was
           formerly
           in
           France
           entertained
           by
           me
           
           for
           writing
           ,
           appeared
           .
           He
           there
           said
           ,
           
             That
             I
             there
             in
          
           France
           
             threatned
             some
             persons
             here
             in
          
           England
           ,
           
             and
             that
             he
             thought
             that
             it
             was
             the
             Duke
             of
          
           Monmouth
           ,
           
             because
             of
             non-payment
             of
             Arrears
          
           .
           I
           told
           him
           ,
           
             That
             that
             was
             a
             bad
             inference
             ,
             that
             because
             I
             threatned
             some
             body
             ,
             it
             must
             be
             therefore
             the
             Duke
             of
          
           Monmouth
           ,
           
             who
             had
             never
             any
             ground
             so
             to
             do
             ;
             for
             that
             he
             had
             signed
             an
             Order
             for
             payment
             of
             me
             ;
             and
             spoke
             to
             Captain
          
           Watson
           
             and
             Doctor
          
           Goase
           
             for
             it
             :
             Though
             I
             never
             was
             yet
             paid
             .
          
        
         
           But
           the
           pretext
           or
           ground
           from
           which
           they
           took
           the
           occasion
           of
           this
           slanderous
           Allogisme
           ,
           was
           from
           the
           matters
           of
           some
           private
           quarrels
           ,
           which
           one
           Mr.
           Hampton
           and
           the
           Lady
           
             Anne
             Gourdon
          
           would
           have
           me
           vindicate
           against
           some
           of
           their
           Rivals
           ;
           which
           I
           complimentally
           was
           still
           wont
           to
           promise
           them
           I
           would
           do
           ,
           the
           better
           to
           insinuate
           my self
           into
           their
           secrets
           ,
           concerning
           the
           Plot
           and
           other
           matters
           .
        
         
           The
           Lady
           Gourdon
           would
           have
           the
           Earl
           of
           Rothes
           his
           Lady
           to
           be
           made
           away
           ,
           she
           being
           a
           Presbiterian
           ,
           begot
           (
           as
           she
           said
           )
           a
           great
           obstacle
           to
           the
           
             Roman
             Catholick
             Religion
             's
          
           progress
           in
           Scotland
           ,
           and
           her
           own
           Rival
           ,
           &c.
           
        
         
           Mrs.
           Wingfield
           ,
           alias
           Hampton
           ,
           a
           Benchers
           Wife
           of
           the
           Temple
           ,
           then
           also
           in
           Paris
           ,
           went
           also
           about
           to
           all
           
             English
             Gentlemen
          
           there
           to
           avenge
           her
           quarrels
           against
           her
           Husband
           ,
           who
           as
           they
           say
           (
           not
           without
           some
           good
           cause
           )
           has
           cast
           her
           off
           :
           She
           applied
           her self
           to
           me
           ,
           who
           not
           approving
           of
           those
           violent
           means
           ,
           I
           obtained
           for
           her
           a
           Letter
           of
           Recommendation
           for
           Justice
           to
           be
           done
           to
           her
           ,
           from
           the
           
             French
             King
          
           to
           the
           King
           of
           England
           ;
           signed
           by
           Secretary
           Pompone
           ,
           directed
           to
           Secretary
           Arlington
           in
           England
           :
           This
           was
           in
           73
           ,
           but
           she
           not
           finding
           any
           good
           by
           this
           Letter
           ,
           she
           went
           on
           to
           propose
           to
           me
           her
           old
           ways
           ;
           so
           seeing
           her
           incorrigible
           ,
           fearing
           she
           would
           fall
           into
           worse
           hands
           ,
           and
           hoping
           to
           get
           back
           the
           money
           I
           had
           lent
           to
           her
           and
           laid
           out
           for
           her
           ;
           I
           kept
           in
           with
           her
           till
           she
           could
           get
           money
           to
           pay
           me
           :
           but
           finding
           no
           hopes
           of
           either
           the
           one
           or
           the
           other
           ,
           I
           bid
           this
           Dallison
           my
           Man
           ,
           to
           take
           her
           in
           hand
           ,
           to
           pretend
           to
           close
           to
           her
           Designs
           ,
           till
           I
           could
           get
           my
           money
           .
           I
           directed
           him
           to
           her
           Lodgings
           ,
           but
           he
           told
           me
           that
           Sir
           
             Robert
             Welsh
          
           and
           himself
           knew
           her
           well
           enough
           :
           And
           that
           he
           would
           get
           me
           one
           Johnson
           a
           Student
           in
           
           Physick
           ,
           who
           would
           act
           his
           part
           in
           the
           Comedy
           better
           than
           any
           .
           I
           told
           them
           I
           would
           share
           with
           them
           both
           of
           what
           was
           due
           to
           me
           by
           this
           Woman
           ,
           and
           what
           besides
           they
           could
           get
           from
           her
           :
           She
           proffered
           to
           give
           some
           Hundreds
           of
           Pounds
           ,
           then
           in
           the
           hands
           of
           Monsieur
           
             de
             Basti
          
           in
           London
           ,
           and
           her
           Daughter
           besides
           in
           Marriage
           ,
           to
           any
           that
           would
           kill
           her
           Husband
           by
           the
           Sword
           ,
           Poyson
           ,
           &c.
           
           But
           finding
           she
           could
           not
           perform
           the
           payment
           of
           a
           far
           less
           sum
           due
           to
           me
           ,
           and
           that
           to
           receive
           into
           my
           company
           persons
           of
           so
           wicked
           principles
           in
           Religion
           and
           Moralities
           ,
           was
           scandalous
           ;
           I
           cast
           them
           all
           off
           in
           Paris
           .
           She
           some
           Weeks
           before
           came
           over
           unknown
           to
           me
           into
           England
           ,
           but
           the
           next
           day
           after
           my
           Arrival
           here
           ,
           I
           met
           her
           accidentally
           ,
           and
           she
           brought
           me
           to
           her
           Lodging
           ;
           having
           now
           cast
           of
           Dallison
           .
           Also
           he
           there
           in
           Paris
           met
           with
           the
           Talbots
           every
           night
           ,
           and
           with
           Sir
           
             Robert
             Welsh
          
           ;
           amongst
           them
           it
           was
           contrived
           that
           Dallison
           should
           come
           over
           into
           England
           ,
           and
           turn
           these
           petit
           matters
           wherein
           I
           seemed
           to
           comply
           with
           these
           Ladies
           ,
           as
           if
           I
           intended
           them
           against
           the
           Duke
           of
           Monmouth
           ,
           for
           not
           payment
           of
           Arrears
           ,
           &c.
           and
           by
           this
           means
           they
           thought
           to
           blast
           my
           Discovery
           of
           the
           Plot
           against
           them
           ,
           when
           I
           came
           into
           England
           ;
           and
           that
           I
           would
           be
           certainly
           secured
           when
           I
           arrived
           there
           :
           and
           they
           had
           the
           assurance
           to
           threaten
           me
           there-with
           to
           my
           face
           .
           Their
           threats
           came
           punctually
           to
           pass
           ,
           for
           I
           was
           secured
           according
           to
           their
           Contrivance
           within
           a
           few
           days
           after
           I
           was
           in
           London
           .
        
         
           Now
           when
           Sir
           John
           and
           the
           Secretary
           did
           so
           oft
           press
           me
           ,
           What
           might
           give
           grounds
           to
           this
           Slaunder
           of
           some
           Design
           against
           the
           Duke
           of
           Monmouth
           ,
           I
           have
           related
           these
           matters
           abovesaid
           ,
           unto
           them
           concerning
           these
           Womens
           Proposals
           ,
           which
           I
           conceived
           to
           be
           the
           only
           ground
           and
           pretext
           of
           that
           Slaunder
           ,
           they
           made
           me
           sign
           it
           ,
           I
           think
           ;
           which
           taking
           but
           for
           a
           formality
           of
           no
           great
           importance
           ,
           I
           did
           do
           ;
           and
           though
           I
           did
           but
           out
           of
           a
           complemental
           policy
           hearken
           to
           these
           Womens
           designs
           ,
           I
           could
           not
           be
           at
           quiet
           there
           at
           the
           Tower
           with
           Sir
           John
           and
           others
           ,
           till
           I
           had
           said
           ,
           That
           I
           had
           a
           real
           intention
           to
           serve
           these
           Women
           in
           the
           premisses
           ;
           though
           Mr.
           Hawkins
           the
           
             Tower
             Chaplain
          
           ,
           and
           Mr.
           Robinson
           the
           
             Tower
             Gentleman
             Jaylor
          
           ,
           may
           witness
           that
           I
           told
           them
           and
           others
           ,
           That
           I
           dallied
           with
           these
           Ladies
           only
           .
           But
           what-ever
           Sir
           John
           or
           the
           
           Secretary
           can
           make
           of
           this
           or
           any
           other
           lie
           ,
           the
           Popish
           plotters
           sent
           into
           their
           hands
           ,
           to
           slaunder
           my
           Evidence
           ,
           cannot
           be
           material
           to
           the
           purpose
           ,
           and
           I
           will
           be
           ready
           to
           answer
           it
           .
           And
           though
           Sir
           
           John's
           ill
           usage
           and
           threats
           of
           Racking
           of
           me
           ,
           and
           hearing
           that
           he
           was
           wont
           to
           give
           an
           account
           of
           me
           to
           the
           Duke
           of
           York
           (
           the
           
           Talbot's
           Master
           )
           though
           I
           say
           ,
           these
           things
           did
           discourage
           me
           to
           speak
           further
           of
           the
           Plot
           whilst
           I
           was
           in
           the
           Tower
           ,
           either
           to
           Sir
           John
           or
           the
           Secretary
           ,
           yet
           after
           I
           had
           been
           abroad
           a
           while
           ,
           during
           the
           last
           Parliaments
           Sitting
           ,
           I
           went
           to
           him
           to
           the
           Tower
           ,
           intreating
           him
           to
           second
           me
           in
           the
           discovering
           of
           the
           said
           Matters
           aforesaid
           ,
           for
           the
           good
           of
           the
           Government
           ;
           
             John
             Bagot
          
           his
           Man
           I
           think
           was
           in
           hearing
           ;
           but
           he
           with
           a
           Check
           rejected
           me
           :
           which
           discouraged
           me
           so
           ,
           as
           almost
           never
           to
           speak
           any
           more
           of
           the
           Matter
           .
           Till
           a
           Lord
           of
           the
           Parliament
           ,
           to
           whom
           I
           discovered
           the
           whole
           ,
           by
           the
           means
           of
           a
           Friend
           ,
           had
           received
           me
           again
           to
           make
           the
           Discovery
           ,
           as
           I
           have
           done
           on
           the
           Twenty
           fourth
           of
           December
           last
           before
           the
           Committee
           of
           Lords
           upon
           Oath
           ,
           Three
           Months
           ago
           before
           this
           Information
           I
           now
           do
           give
           into
           the
           Commons
           .
        
         
           
             Jurat
             .
          
        
         
           FINIS
           .
        
         
      
    
     
       
         Notes, typically marginal, from the original text
         
           Notes for div A38819-e280
           
             Articles
             against
             the
             Talbots
             .