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Great Britain -- History -- Charles II, 1660-1685. 2003-11 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2003-12 SPi Global Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2004-11 Melanie Sanders Sampled and proofread 2004-11 Melanie Sanders Text and markup reviewed and edited 2005-01 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion THE ANSWER TO THE APPEAL , Expounded . Printed in the Year 1680. Union Theol. Sem. Library MCALPIN THE PREFACE . THis Answerer of the Appeal were his Politicks as strong as his Passions , I should think him a Jesuit ; but they are so far from being so , that I should disgrace that Order , if I should imagine him to be one of them : He is only an outragious and over-vehement Papist , and differs from a Jesuit as a Wasp does from a Hornet , much of the same nature , but not so vigorous ; he would pass for a Member of the Church of England , ( I mean ) as far as relates to the Crown and Episcopacy , but furiously rails in effect at the Protestants . But ( thanks be to God ) things are not yet come to that pass , as that he dares do it under that Name ; therefore he terms them Presbyterians , Fanaticks , Schismaticks , Rebels , &c. and then belyes them freely . Mark through this whole Treatise , and you shall find his main design is to shift away the real Popish Plot , which the Justice of our Laws have already found out , and instead thereof would substitute to the Executioner innocent Protestants ; much like the wicked Jews , who to save the Murderer Barrabas from publick Justice , did substitute , and by false witness condemn Jesus Christ. But not to trouble you with a separate Confutation of his whole Discourse , wherein he may pretend false Quotation , I will only annex to his own Text some marginal Notes , and leave them to the Reader 's use , like Salt upon the brims of the Dish . THE ANSWER to the APPEAL , EXPOUNDED . THis Appeal has made a mighty noise about the Town ; and yet , Heaven knows , there is neither Good Faith in it , nor Argument : But all things mis-apply'd , or mis-reported , to bring an Odium upon the Government , and to inflame the Multitude . The pretended Reasonings of it are no more than fallacies and non-sequiturs , from the beginning to the end ; and yet it serves in a Coffee-house for a (a) Test of Honest Men and Mutiniers . Taking it barely in it self , it is scarce worth an Answer : But in the circumstances of the Boldness and the Malice , it is but reasonable to bestow such a Reply upon it , as may give it a Recommendation to publique Justice ; Especially (b) having already taken notice of it by the By , in another place . It is a wonderful thing , the Confidence of this Audacious Pamphlet , in Addressing it self to the City , after so Fresh , so Loyal , and so Generous an instance of their scorn , and detestation of any thing that looks like a seditious practice . (c) Why should a Wat Tyler expect better Quarter from a Lord Mayor under Charles the Second , than he had from a Lord Mayor under Richard the Second ? Nay , that very Rebellion of (d) Forty-one is most injuriously (e) charg'd upon the City of London ; for Gournay , Ricaut , Garraway , and the most considerable of the Citizens , were not only against it in their Opinions , but oppos'd it to the utmost with their Estates and Persons . And that Honourable Society has not yet forgotten either the Calamities of the War , or the Methods and Instruments which brought so great a Reproach upon the City . Beside , that it is as much their Interest as their Duty , and as much their Inclination as either , to support the Government . (f) For by a War they must of necessity suffer doubly : And not only in the loss or abatement of their Trade , but in the deep proportion of their Taxes toward the publique Charge . So that these are not a sort of people to be Wheedled out of their Honour and Allegiance . But we shall now take a view of the Pamphlet it self . An Appeal from the Country to the City . IT begins ; Most brave and noble Citizens : And a little lower ; With you we stand , and with you we fail ; your example directs our Conduct , &c. Now if the greeting had been to the Club of Subscribers , that which follows would have been much more Consequent ; for it is a great Truth , that the Conspirators of both sides must expect to stand and fall together ; and that the Factions in the Country can never make any thing on 't , without a Tumult in the City , to lead the Dance ; which ( God be prais'd ) there is no fear of , and then for the Credit which this busie Mutineer can pretend to under this present Government , with the Noble Citizens ( as he claws them ) I am perswaded , if the Author of the Appeal were but known to the Court of Aldermen and Common Councel , it might cost him Dear , the very Complement . Not but that in so (a) great a body , there may be some few little Fellows a float too , that cry out with the Horse-turds among the Apples , in the Emblem , How we Apples swim . In the next clause , the Scriber gives to understand that he has read Hodge upon the Monument ; and writing after that Copy , he follows the phansie of the Citizens looking about them from the top of the Pyramid . Now to match this dismal prospect of Imaginary Calamities to come , we shall give you a Parallel in a brief Summary of what this Nation has really suffer'd in Fact ; and in Truth brought upon it self , by (b) believing such stories as these , without either Foundation or Effect . First ( says he ) Imagine you see the whole Town in a flame ; occasioned this second time by the same Popish malice which set it on fire before . (c) First ( say I ) Imagine you see the whole Nation in a Flame , and brought to the extremities of Fire and Sword , occasioned this second time by the same Schismatical and Republican Malice which embroil'd it before . At the same instant phansie that amongst the distracted Crowd , you behold Troops of Papists ravishing your Wives and Daughters , dashing your little Childrens brains out against the Walls , Plundering your Houses , and cutting your own Throats , by the name of Heretique Dogs . At the same instant , Phansie Decemb. 1659 , once over again ; whole droves of Coblers , Dray-men , Ostlers , upon Free-quarter with you , till some of your Wives and Daughters are forc'd to Prostitute themselves for Bread ; your Councels affronted by Armed Troops , and your fellow Citizens knockt on the head , like Dogs , at their own doors , for not so much as barking ; your Apprentices discharg'd of their Indentures by an Arbitrary Power ; your Houses Rifled ; your Account-books examin'd ; your * Servants corrupted to Betray their Masters ; your Persons clapt under Hatches , transplanted or thrown into nasty Dungeons ; or ( in mercy perhaps ) your Throats cut , by the Name of Popish Dogs and Cavaliers : And all this only for refusing to Renounce God and your Soveraign . Then represent to your selves the Tower playing off its Cannon , and battering down the Houses about your ears Then represent to your selves the Thimble-maker , once again Lieutenant of the Tower ; your Citizens clapt up ; St. Pauls and Gresham-Colledge turn'd into Garrisons ; orders for the demolishing of your Gates and Chains ; and nothing less than Military Execution threaten'd you , unless you will redeem your selves with 100000 l. a (d) month Contribution , towards the perpetuating of your Slavery . Also casting your Eye toward Smithfield , Imagine you see your Father , or your Mother , or some of your nearest and dearest Relations ty'd to a Stake in the midst of flames ; when with bands and eyes lifted up to Heaven , they scream and cry out to that God , for whose cause they die ; which was a frequent spectacle the last time Popery Reign'd amongst us . Also casting your eye toward Cheap-side , Cornhil , Charing-cross , Palace-yard , Tower-hill , nay , Whitehall it self : Imagine you see your Father , or some of your nearest Relations , your Citizens , the Nobility , Gentry ; nay , the King himself , and his best Friends , under the hand of the Common Executioner , appealing to God , in whose Cause they dy'd , which was a frequent spectacle , when Rebels and Vsurpers , under the title of Reformers , reign'd last amongst us . Phansie ye behold those Beautiful Churches , erected for the true Worship of God , abused and turn'd into Idolatrous Temples , to the dishonour of Christ , and scandal of Religion : The Ministers of God's Holy Word , torn in pieces before your eyes , and their best Friends not daring even to speak in their behalf . Phansie you behold those Beautiful Churches erected for the true Worship of God , abused and turned into Stables ; the Pulpits into Juggling boxes to Hocus your Wives and Daughters out of their Bodkins and Thimbles ; and nothing to be heard there but Heresie and Sedition , to the dishonour of Christ , and scandal of Religion . The Ministers of Gods Holy Word cast out of their Livings by hundreds , and their Children expos'd to the wide World to beg their Bread ; and not a Friend that dares open his mouth for them . Women running with their Hair about their ears ; Men cover'd with Bloud , and Children sprawling under Horses feet , and only the Walls of Houses left standing . Your Women running with their Hair about their ears , one half to the Works like Pioniers , the other dancing Attendance at some Merciless Committee , to put in Bail perhaps for some Malignant Friend or Husband ; Men cover'd with Bloud , lost Limbs , and mangled Bodies , from Edghill , Branford , &c. and with horror of Conscience over and above ; Altars Robb'd , Churches Demolish'd , and only the Walls left standing . In Fine , What the Devil himself would do , were he here upon Earth , will in his absence infallibly be acted by his Agents the Papists : Those who had so much Ingratitude and Baseness to attempt the Life of a Prince , so Indulgent to them , will hardly be less cruel to any of his Protestant Subjects . (e) In Fine , What the Devil himself would do , were he here upon Earth , will in his absence infallibly be acted ( if they may have their will ) by his Agents , the Perjurious and Hypocritical Regicides ; that Betray'd their Prince and their Country by the Solemnity of a Covenant , and Poyson'd the unwary People in that very Sacrament . Those who had so much Ingratitude and Baseness , not only to attempt , but take away the Life of a Prince so Indulgent to them as the late King was , who deny'd them nothing but his Crown , and his Blood , which afterward they took : These , I say again , that are so ungrateful to our present Soveraign , as after so much Mercy and Bounty to the Murtherers of his Father , and of his Friends , have now enter'd into fresh attempts upon his Life , his Crown and Dignity , will hardly be less Cruel to any of his Majesties obedient Subjects . (f) Now to shew you that this way of Incentive , to the Multitude is only the Old story new furbish'd , and not our Appellants Mother-wit and Contrivance , as he would have the World imagine . See his Majesties Declaration of Aug. 12. 1642. Husbands Collection , pag. 540. One day the Tower of London is in danger to be taken ; and Information given that Great Multitudes , at least a Hundred , had that day resorted to visit a Priest , then a Prisoner there by Order of the Lords : and that about the time of the Information , about fifty or sixty were then there ; and a Warder dispatcht of purpose to give that notice : Upon Inquiry , but four persons were then found to be There , and but eight all that day , who had visited the Priest. Another day a Taylor in a Ditch over-hears two passengers to Plot the Death of Mr. Pym , and of many other Members of Both Houses . Then Libellous Letters found in the Streets , without Names , ( probably contrived by themselves ; and by Their Power , Published , Printed , and Enter'd in their Journals ) and Intimations given of the Papists Training under ground , and of notable Provision of Ammunition in Houses ; where , upon Examination , a Single Sword , and a Bow and Arrows are found . A Design of the Inhabitants of Covent-Garden to Murther the City of London News from France , Italy , Spain , Denmark , of Armies ready to come for England . And again , Pag. 536. they cause Discourses to be Published , and Infusions to be made of Incredible Dangers to the City and Kingdom , by that our coming to the House : ( in the case of the five Members . ) An Alarm was given to the City in the Dead time of the Night , that we were coming with Horse and Foot thither , and thereupon the whole City put in Arms : And howsoever the Envy seem'd to be cast upon the Designs of the Papists , mention was only made of Actions of our own . Upon a fair understanding of the whole , (g) this supposition of his is no more than the Counterpart of the old Story : and the Declamatory dangers that he foresees in Vision , were outdone by those sensible Cruelties and Oppressions that this poor Kingdom suffer'd in very deed . If it be true , that these and fourty times more Cruelties were committed : And that the People were frighted into these Precipices only by shadows : If it be true again , that those Glorious Pretenders , when they had the King and his Papists ( as they call'd his most Orthodox Friends ) under foot ; that these People , I say , never lookt further after Religion ; but fell presently to the (h) sharing of the Church and Crown Revenues among themselves , It will concern every sober man to look well about him , and to make use of his Reason , as well as of his Faith , for (i) these Fore-boders seldom Croak but before a Storm . We in the Country ( says he ) have done our parts , in chusing , for the generality , Good Members to serve in Parliament . But if ( as our two last Parliaments were ) they must be Dissolv'd or Prorogued , when ever they come to redress the Grievances of the Subject , we may be Pitied , but not Blam'd . If the Plot takes effect , as in all probability it will , our Parliaments are not then to be Condemn'd , for that their not being suffer'd to sit , occasion'd it ▪ Fol. 1. There are just as many Affronts put upon the Government in these two Periods , as ( in the Printed Folio ) there are Lines in 't . First , Upon the House of Commons ; for a Representative constituted , for the generality , of (k) such men as our Appealer calls Good Members , would lay the Kingdom in Bloud , ( which is manifestly the drift of the Libel from the one end of it to the other . ) Secondly , The Appellant Usurps upon the King's Authority ; (l) as if his Majesty were bound to give an Account to every Libeller , why he Prorogues or Dissolves his Parliaments ( which is a Priviledge inseparable from the Supreme Power ) in all forms of Government . Thirdly , (m) It is a Tacit Charge of Tyranny upon the King ; for it is done ( he says ) whenever they come to redress the Grievances of the Subject . And lastly , He makes the King a Promoter of the Plot ; but whether with more Indignity or Folly , it is hard to determine , either in the Intimation , or in the Supposal of his Majesty to be Felo de se , and a Party to the Conspiracy against his own Life . (n) The Plot ( he says ) will in all Probability take effect , and he is the occasion of it , that would not suffer these Parliaments to sit . The Plot is now got so far out of our Enemies reach , that no subtle Evasion or Trick can ever hope to extinguish it . Wherefore they must either suffer all to come out , or begin by force to justifie it , which we see they are going to do , by their endeavouring to get those Worthy and Brave Commanders Banished , who ( as they think ) are the most likely Persons to conduct and lead us up against any Popish Army . Fol 1. The Appellants meaning is , that the Popish Plot is so notoriously Publique , there 's no Concealing of it , and so far we are agreed : (o) For we have had Legal Tryals , Proofs , Verdicts , Sentences , and Legal Executions in the Case . But yet to my thinking , we have had also as Competent (p) Evidences of another Plot under that , as a body would wish . But whoever crosses the second Plot , is presently Libell'd , as a Friend to the former . What do we hear , what do we read , what do we see , but Seditious Discourses , Scandalous Invectives , and Mutinous Practices against the Government ? Is not the King's Administration , and his Authority publickly Arraigned ? And is not his Sacred Life struck at in this way of Proceeding ? First , (q) They expresly tell the World that his Majesty Misgoverns . Secondly , They lay it down for a Maxim , that the People may call him to Account , in case he does Misgovern . And this being admitted , the next point is , directly ( by an undeniable Consequence ) to Arraign him as a Traytor to the Sovereign People . But the Faction it self expounds its own meaning . (r) What have they to say for that Inhumane and Execrable Murther acted upon the late Arch-Bishop of St. Andrews in Scotland , and to their Declaration against the King himself ; which was follow'd with an Open , Actual , and Form'd Rebellion ? (s) This is a Plot that , me-thinks , a Man may see without his Spectacles ; and according to our Appellant's conceipt , they began by force to justifie it , for fear all should come out . To follow him in his Politiques , he tells us further in the passage above-recited , that to facilitate the Papists work , (t) his Majesty Banishes the Persons most capable of Opposing it . So that he makes his Majesty evidently a Party to the Plot ; or at best , no more than a King upon a Chess-board , to be turn'd and carry'd which way the Gamester pleases : Beside ; the putting of the Illustrious Duke of Monmouth in the head of Popish Troops , in contradiction to himself . But ( for all this yet ) Gentlemen ( says he ) be not dismaid ; the Lord of Hosts will be of your sides ; for so long as you fight his Cause , he will fight your Battels : And if God be for you , who dares be against you ? Fear nothing , but as your Interests are United , so let your Resolutions be the same ; and the first hour wherein you hear of the King 's Untimely End , let no other noise be heard among you , but that of Arm , Arm , to Revenge your Sovereign's Death , both upon his Murtherers , and their whole Party , for that there is no such thing as an English Papist , who is not in the Plot , at least in his good Wishes . Fol 2. And why [ be not dismaid ] Where 's the danger , I beseech you ? (u) The Popish Plot is Master'd ; and there 's hardly a Roman Catholique dares shew his head : Nay , and for want of Popish matter to work upon , the Church of England it self is made Papal and Antichristian . And whoever looks narrowly into this business , will find these Bugbears to be of the Appellant's own making . What is all this , but Curse ye Meroz over again : He claps the Rabble on the backs , and spits in their mouths , and without more adoe , turns them loose upon the Government ? The first hour ( says he ) &c. (w) Here 's no Supposition of the King's Murther to qualifie the matter ▪ but the thing so Positively pronouns'd , as if he himself were of the Conspiracy . (x) So that without any Ifs or And 's , the Murther is given for Granted ; and upon this Instigation , the least Rumour in the world that way , puts the People upon a General Massacre , which the bare report lately of the French appearing before the Isle of Purbeck , had like to have done in several places . Now if they should Arm upon such a mistake , or but an hour too soon , it were enough to put the whole Nation in Bloud again : And then his Orders to the City , to be ready with their Arms at an hours warning , are as Peremptory , as if he had the Command of the Militia : (y) Beside that , if a Fanatique should Murther the King , the Papists are to be Punish'd for 't . Because ( says he ) every English Papist is in the Plot , at least in his good wishes . And it is no less probable on the other side , that (z) every Unrepenting Covenanter is in the Counterplot ; for upon that Covenant it was , that they founded the Destruction , and the Dissolution of the Government : And it behoves us to beware of King-killers on the one hand , as well as on the other . Now see how he goes on . Think not to fare better than the rest , by meddling less ; for the Conquerors Promises are never kept , especially coming from that sort of People , whose Maxim it is , never to keep their word with Heretiques , Fol. 2. What a wonderful strain of Logick is this ? Draw your Swords ( says he ) and go to the Devil for Company , for the Papists keep no Faith with Heretiques . This was the Song of 41 : and he that would see what Faith the Covenanters kept , either with God , King , Church , or People , has no more to do than to compare their Leagues and Protestations with their actions . Now Gentlemen ( says he ) left any amongst you should be ignorant , either of your Enemies , or their Designs , both against the King and Kingdom , — they are young Beggarly Officers , Courtiers ; over-hot Church-men , and Papists . The Young Officer , or Souldiers Interest , makes him wish for a Standing Army ; the Courtier endeavours to advance Taxes , Oppressive and Illegal Impositions . The over-hot Church-men wish well to Popery , in hope of a Cardinals Cap , or at least the Command of some Abby , Priory , or other Ecclesiastical Preferment , whereof the Roman Church hath so great plenty . These are the men who exclaim against our Parliaments Proceedings , in relation to the Plot , as too Violent ; calling these times by no other name , but that of Forty or Forty-one , when to amuse his Sacred Majesty , and his good People , they again threaten us with another Forty-eight : And all this is done under-hand , to Vindicate the Catholique Party , by throwing a Suspicion on the Fanatiques . These are the Episcopal Tantivies , who make even the very Scriptures Pimp for the Court ; who out of Urim and Thummim can extort a Sermon to prove the not paying of Tyths and Taxes to be the Sin against the Holy Ghost : And had rather see the Kingdom run down with Blood , than part with the least Hem of a Consecrated Frock , which they themselves made Holy. Here 's a very fair and round distribution of the Cities Enemies , into a Younger Brothers , Dependants upon the King ; Friends to the Church , and into Profest Papists : And the b whole Kingdom it self is again split into Two Parties , the one consisting of Mutiniers and Schismatiques ; the other of the Loyal Servants and Subjects of the Government , which under the three first Heads , he brands as the Cities Enemies . These Men he Charges with lessening the Plot , with resembling the present times to Forty-one , and talking of another Forty-eight . Now how is it possible but the Positions of Forty-one , should put us in mind of the Rebellion of Forty-one ; and the Regicidal Principles of Seventy-nine , mind us of the Regicide it self of Forty-eight . For these Principles and Practices are nothing in the World but the Venom of the Old Cause swallow'd and Spew'd up again : and c all the Treasons of the Consistory are cast upon the Conclave : As if the Murther of Charles the First , by the Treachery of Mock-Protestants , were ever the less Detestable , because the Two Harries of France were Assassinated by Profest Papists . These are the Puritan Iesuits , that turn the Bible into a Nose of Wax ; that make God the Author of Sin ; that Depose and Murther Kings by a Text ; and Intitle their Sacrilege and Treason to the Inspirations of the Holy Ghost . d These are the Straight-lac'd Christians , that make less scruple of Robbing the Altar , than of Kneeling at the Communion : They can swallow the Blood of Widows and Orphans , and yet Puke at a Surplice . Let me ask the worthy Gentlemen of the City now , which of the two carry'd them the easier , the Schismatical and Sacrilegious , or the Episcopal Tantivy ? Or which they take for the more dangerous Enemies , our Appellants young Beggarly Officers , or their Old Acquaintances , Pen , Fulks , and their Fellows , who violently thrust out the gravest and most Substantial of their Citizens , ( as the late King has it ) and took in Persons of desperate Fortunes and Opinions , in their places . Let them compare the Appellants Courtiers too , with the Old Sequestring , Plundring , and Decimating Committees ; with their Court-Marshals , and Major-Generals : when London was made little better then a Shambles ; and their Merchants only Cash-keepers to the Tyrants at Westminster ; and then against his Over-hot Church-men , we 'l set the Mechanique Pulpiteers and Tub-Preachers ; that not only divided the People from their Soveraign , but e Wives from their Husbands , Children from their Parents ; and Preacht away Apprentices , by Droves into Rebellion : Carrying the Schism through Church and State , into private Families . This is the Blessed change that is now propounded , and laid before us . Lastly , ( says he ) the chief and most dangerous of your Enemies are Papists , who to make sure of their own Game , allure all the three forementioned Parties to their side , by the Arguments aforesaid . Their design is to bring in Popery , which they can no ways effect , but either by a Popish Successor , or by the French Arms. There is no doubt of the danger of the Papists ; but still while the Government has One Enemy in Front , it is good to secure the Flank and Rear , from another : So that the Cities only safety lies in the mean , betwixt the two Extremes of Popery , on the One hand , and Libertinism on the Other . The Former ( he says ) can never be effected , but by a Popish Successor , or the French Arms. See now how this hangs together : the same Faction clamour'd against the late King just at this rate ; f and yet there was no prospect at that time , of a Popish Successor , but yet Popery was charg'd ( most injuriously , as all the World can witness ) upon the King himself . And then for the French Arms , so far was his Majesty from calling them in to his assistance , that upon the Scottish Rebellion they were Sollicited and Implor'd into a Confederacy against him . And yet we remember to our griefs , that those very Rumours and Apprehensions of Popery , even when there was not any Danger of it , cast us all into Confusion . And now our Appellant , to shew how good an English-man he is , as well as a Subject , enters his Protestation a little lower in the same Paragraph , that he would rather of the Two , Live under a French Conqueror , then the Duke as Successor . I must acknowledge ( says he in the next clause ) that there is some Coherence between the Beginning of the Late Civil Wars , and this our present Age : For as well then as now , the Ambitious Papists , and French Faction were the chief , nay the only Incendiaries , which set us all in flame . That the French Cardinal did Artificially improve the Turbulent Humour of the English and Scottish Schismaticks , to the advancing of the Interest of France , and to the Embroyling of these Kingdoms , I make no question : But to call them the g Only Incendiaries , is to give the Lye to the constant current of History , and the known Certainty of Fact , even within our own remembrance . How were the Papists and French Factions concern'd in the Scottish Uproar of 1637. and a hundred Sacrilegious Tumults , after that , in the course of the Rebellion ? and to set him right now in his Calculation of his Majesties French friends , we shall inform him , that the King 's Principal supplies of Men , Arms , Money , and Ammunition , were furnished from Holland . He tells us further , that the Catholique Cause , like the Chesnut in the Fable , hath ever since Q. Marys days been in the Fire : and that both then , and now , the Papists make use of the Episcopal , and Court-parties claw , to take it out ; the First of these , they allure to their assistance , by the Fright of Presbytery ; the Latter by the apprehension of a Republique , tho' nothing is less Designed , or more Improbable . 'T is a hard case to have to do with an Adversary that has neither Candor in his Reports , nor any force of Argument in his Reasonings ; and yet it is the more tolerable here , because it is all that either the Story or the Cause will bear . h He makes the Episcopal and Court-Party to be the Passive Instruments of the Church of Rome , for the advance of Popery , ever since the Reign of Queen Mary : which is so notorious a mistake , that Queen Elizabeth , and the Hierarchy in Her Reign oppos'd the Errours , and the power of that Church , with all possible constancy , and Resolution . King James made himself famous by his Pen , as well as by his Practices , upon the same Subject . The Late King lost his Life in the defence of the Reformed Religion , and his Majesty that now is , hath manifested his affection to the Church of England , ( as by Law Establisht , ) in despight of all Calumnies , and through extream difficulties , with the highest Acts of Solemnity Imaginable . And now on the other side , let but any man trace the History of the Schismatiques , from Queen Mary to this Instant ; and the restlesness of that Faction will appear , through every step of his way ; and that i whensoever the Papists prest upon the Government , on the One hand , the Separatists never fail'd of pinching it on the Other . k And yet again whereas he talks of the fright of Presbytery , and the apprehension of a Republique , as neither designed , nor probable , there 's no man of Thirty years of Age , but knows the contrary ; and that this Nation was actually enslav'd to that Double Tyranny , under pretence of delivering us from the danger of Arbitrary Power , and Popery . Nay , and but two lines further , he charges the Late King for countenancing Papists , no less than This : which to every honest man is constructively a Vindication of them Both. Nay , he goes so far toward the owning of a dislike for the Form of our Government it self , that he says , no Government but Monarchy can in England ever support , or favour Popery , l as who should say ; A Common-wealth would put us out of fear on 't . He says again , Pag. 3. that the Parliament Party never Entertain'd any Papists , unless under a Disguise ; and yet we never heard of any more of them , than the King's Headsman in a Masque . We could shew him several Instances of the contrary ; but no man is so sensless , as to imagine that the King was Depos'd , pursu'd , rob'd , taken , condemn'd and put to Death , by a hundred thousand Priests in Visors : we have nothing to say to the Loyalty of the Papists ; but yet m the Incongruity of our Appellants charge upon them , we cannot but in Honesty and common reason , take some notice of , Especially when the Dust of his Objection flies in his own Eyes . Their Loyalty and Good service pay'd to the King ( says he ) was meerly in their own defence ; well knowing that the Foundation of these Commotions was only in Opposition to their Party . n Putting the Case now , that they serv'd the King only for their Own Ends : We have an acknowledgment yet , that there was Loyalty , and good service in it , however qualified : and we know that there were o many Brave , and Eminent men among them , that lost their Estates and Lives in that service . If it lyes as a reproach upon them , that they did not serve the King out of Loyalty , that which they did , was yet better than not serving him at all ; and better , in a higher degree still , than fighting against him . But supposing now that they had no known Papists in their Army , the Case is not one jot mended ; for they were all Schismatiques then ; and it is worth the Observation , that not a man drew his sword in that Cause , who was not a Known Separatist ; and that , on the other side , not one Schismatique ever struck stroke in the King's Quarrel : The One side contending according to their Duty , in favour of the Law , and the Other against it . Our Appellant lyes open to another Objection in the clause above-recited . He says , p the Commotion was only founded upon an Opposition to that Party . How came it then , that they seiz'd the Crown , and Church-Lands ; put the King to Death , plunder'd , sequester'd , and beheaded his Protestant Friends , if the Opposition was only to Popery ? But we have seen their pretences , and we have felt the meaning of them . He insists upon q the Papists desiring Oliver to accept of the Crown . There●s a little Book that will inform us better concerning that transaction . It 's call'd Monarchy asserted , consisting of a Collection of Speeches upon that debate . We are at this time ( he says ) acting the same Play still , though an Old-one newly Reviv'd ; and as r that which the Papists then Acted , was laid upon the Fanatiques , so was the like to have been done , in this present Plot. It will be easily granted , that this is in a high degree the Old-Play Reviv'd , but we are too well acquainted with the circumstances of the present Plot , to carry the resemblance thorough . That which the Fanatiques then Acted , was laid on the Papists ; and when they had master'd the King , under the Calumny of a Papist , they Murther'd him as a Protestant . The Question at present is not the Certainty of One Plot , but the Superfoetation of another : For it is compossible enough , that a Papist may be before his Majesty with a Dagger , and some rank Enthusiast behind him with a Pistol . s He proceeds with a Story of Mr. Claypool , not at all to our purpose ; and then gives us further , an account of the Papists design in Scotland ; who first by their Councels procured the poor Inhabitants to be Oppress'd , and then sending their disguised Priests , and Emissaries amongst them , encourag'd the poor silly Natives to Mutiny against those Oppressions , hoping to cast the Plot upon the Presbyterians If the Power , Number , and Industry of these Emissaries be such as our Appellant would have us believe , t a man would think there should hardly be a Rat-trap in the three Kingdoms , without a Priest in 't . Let us but lay together several Circumstances in this Appeal concerning the Miraculous Influences of these men upon all sorts of People , and it will be a hard matter to represent any thing more Comical . First , he says , that the Papists have already made sure of all the Young Beggarly Officers , or Souldiers , Courtiers , and Over-hot Church-men ; Fol. 2. Secondly , he makes them to have an Absolute Dominion over the King and his Councill ; for they have made him Banish those Officers ( he says ) that should lead the people up against the Popish Army . Thirdly , they govern all the Conventicles in the Kingdom , as our Appellant will have it . And Fourthly , they procur'd the Scots to be Opprest , and after that shifted hands , and made them rebell ; and all this is every man bound to believe , as the Thirteenth Article of his Faith. Now can any thing be more wonderful , then that these people that can turn the King and his Councill with a Twine thread ; that have so absolute a Command of the Multitude ; and can set Governours and Subjects handy-dandy , to Box one another like Punchinello's Puppets , when they please : u is it not a wonderful thing ( I say ) that these men with all this Interest , are not yet able to save a Priest from the Gallows ; or any single person of the Party from the Exact Rigour of the Law. Have they only a Power to do the Government Mischief , and themselves no Good ? We insist the more earnestly upon this Point , because the comfort of Humane Society is totally destroy'd , if we come once to be transported , by these stories , into a Common Diffidence , every man of his Neighbour ; and put into such a condition , by the Entertainment of these Jealousies , that there will be no longer any Faith , or Confidence in Mankind ; for fear of w these Invisible and undistinguishable Enemies in our daily Conversation . Now to support , and fortifie himself in his Opinion ; he says farther , that not only Dr. Oates mentions this-in his Evidence , but that the Papists themselves were so well assured of the Scotch Rising , before it happen'd , that at the Disbanding of this late Popish Army , many of the Officers and Souldiers had secret Orders not to sell their Horses , but to be in a readiness , for that they should have occasion to use them again within a Fortnight , and so it happen'd ; for within a Fortnight after the Disbanding , the Rebellion brake out in Scotland : So well acquainted were the Authors of this Mischief , with the time when it would happen : With the Appellants leave , x Dr. Oates only Reports what these Agents Design'd to do , and the Hopes of their succeeding in it ; but says nothing positively , that I can find , of what they had done : and in his Thirty fifth Deposition , expresly makes their Project to be the weakening of both the Presbyterian , and Episcopal Faction : As to the casting of the Plot upon the Presbyterians , it was not so well contriv'd ( me thinks ) as it might have been : For it is no Clearing of the Papists from One Plot upon the Kings Life , the charging of the Presbyterians with another . Then there 's another slip ; he will have the Papists privy to the Scotch Rising , because at the Disbanding of the Popish Army , some Officers were order'd not to sell their Horses , &c. First , it is not y prov'd that they had any such Orders : Secondly , he calls it a z Popish Army ; and implies , that these Orders were given to Popish Officers , which Officers either went upon the service or not : If they went , they overthrew their own design ; for he makes it the Papists Interest to entertain those Tumults , and these Gentlemen made it their business to suppress them . If they did not go , their Orders were to no purpose . But why does the Appellant call it a Popish Army ? He should do well to wash his Mouth , after so foul and scandalous an expression . But now let us change hands ; and see if it be not more probable that the Fanaticks knew before-hand of that Rising , then the Papists . For though we had at that time greater apprehensions of the French then ever , a yet the importunities of some people were so violent for the immediate disbanding of the Army , that it lookt like a design to remove that Block out of the Scots way . The next passage is a little mysterious . He says , that it was likely the Scots would be beaten by the Kings Forces , that ( says he ) it might make both Them and Us less apt to Rise upon any account whatsoever , So that here is a b tacit Confession , that the Appellant found some inconvenience in this discouragement to a joynt Rebellion : And so he goes on , saying , that if this had been a Fanatical Plot , the same Party would certainly have risen in England at the same time . But this , under favour , will not hold ; for the Scots tumulted in 37. and appeared in actual Rebellion in 38. whereas their Brethren in England did not take up arms till 41 , though privy to and confederate in the Tumults of 37. He lays it down for granted in the next Line , that the Papists Murthered the Late King , and so proceeds in these words . After the Catholiques had thus brought the Fathers head to the Block , and sent the young Princes into Exile ; let us reflect upon their Vsage of them in France , &c. Now to give the Devil his due , c I cannot find so much as One Papist in the whole List of the Regicides ; and yet I have turn'd over all the Acts and Ordinances ; Walkers Independency ; and in one word , the whole History of those times ; and can hear no news of them . Take notice , that it is not the question here whether or no the Papists would have scrupled it upon a fair Occasion ; but whether or no , in the Truth of the Fact , it was the Papists that did it : and I do not think it Fair , to hang one Man , or Condemn one party for anothers fault . d Put the case one man steals a Horse , and another robs a Church , 't is no vindication of the Horse-stealer , to discharge him of the Sacrilege ; no vindication of him that rob'd the Church , to acquit him of the Horse-stealing ; but it were a high injustice to charge one offender with the crime of another . e His following Reflections upon the Ill-usage the Royal Family received in France when his Majesty was abroad , and the good Offices which France has received from hence in requital , are only meant for a sly and invidious Reproach upon the Government , and there is more of flourish in them then matter of weight ; only he has one speculation not to be past over . I cannot but ascribe great part of our present Calamities ( says he ) to his Highnesses Education in that Arbitrary and Popish Government . Here he pretends to tell us of our miseries , and from whence in a great measure they proceed ; but f it would puzzle a man to find out what these present Calamities are , more then the froward and fantastical apprehensions of remote and imaginary Evils : Nay , the very fear it self is counterfeited as well as the danger , and the men that dress up these goblins to fright the silly multitude , they do but laugh at them themselves . Our State Empericks do with our Politique , as our Physicians do with our Natural Bodies ( for there are Intoxicating Opinions as well as Passions ) they make their Patients many times stark raving mad with that which they are not one jot affected withall themselves . Do we not live ( or if we will , at least , we may ) in Peace and Plenty , under the protection of a Gracious & a Protestant Prince , and under the blessing also of so particular a providence , that when all our Neighbours have been at fire and sword round about us , this Nation has been yet exempt from the common calamities of Christendom ? And shall we now expose and abandon our present quiet and security only for future possibilities , and make our selves certainly miserable before-hand for fear of being miserable hereafter ? Whosoever soberly considers what we enjoy on the one hand , and what we fear on the other , comparing and examining both parts with their due and reasonable circumstances , he shall find all attempts and proposals of popular prevention of reformation , to be as wild a project , g as if a man should cut off a leg or an arm for fear of corns and chilblains . But what if our fears were yet juster then they seem to be ? how many things may yet intervene , according to the ordinary course of humane affairs , to disappoint the danger ? as h Mortality , Survivorship , change of thought , &c. or can the Appellant prescribe us any Remedy , that is not worse then the disease ? shall a man cast himself from the top of Bow , for fear of tumbling down stairs ? shall we destroy Protestantism for fear of Popery ? or a Good Government for fear of a bad One ? shall we run the hazzard of Damnation , for fear of Oppression ? Nay , what if our present apprehensions were Gratify'd ? New ones would yet succeed into their places : For the Rage of Jealousy is boundless and Incurable . And so we found it i in the Late Rebellion , which was built upon the same Foundation . Never so mean and so despicable a slavery , as that which we then brought upon our selves for fear of slavery . Never was any Papacy so Tyrannical , and so Ridiculous together , as that Persecuting , and Non-sensical Presbytery , which we had in Exchange for the best temper'd Ecclesiastical Government upon the face of the Earth . Were not Those blessed days when our Divines had Salesmen , and Mechaniques for their Tryers ; and the Laity a supercilious Company of Classical , and Congregational Noddies for the Inspectors of our Lives and Manners : When Tone , and Lungs , without either Learning , or Honesty , were the distinguishing Marks of a Gifted Brother ? Methinks the very Memory of these servile and profane Indignities should put the bare thought of the Second part of it out of Countenance . And he seems as much out in the pretended Cause of our Calamities , as he was in the Calamities themselves . k There were no Princes Educated abroad in the Late Kings time , and yet the same clamour to a Tittle . But if the Appellant had been so minded , he might have given us a much more Rational account of our misfortunes , then he has done . He might have charg'd them upon those people , who in truth , first sent the young Princes into Exile , and then kept them there ; and have at present a design upon the Exercise of the same Arbitrary power again , which they would be thought to fear . They began with a cry against Popery , but they concluded in the l Murther of the King ; the dislution of the Monarchy , and the perpetual Exclusion of the Royal Family , as may be seen in their Proclamation of Jan. 30.48 . for Inhibiting any person to be King. Whereas Charles Stuart King of England , ( say they ) being for the Notorious Treasons , Tyrannies , and Murthers , committed by Him in the Late Unnatural and cruel Wars , condemned to Death , &c. It is remarkable , that though they possest the people against his Majesty , as a Papist , there is not one word of Religion in the Reasons , of their putting him to death . The Appellant comes now to shew his Reading , in two passages out of Philip de Comines , with an application of his Observations upon them . The former concerning certain English Pensioners ; which Lewis the Eleventh of France kept in Pay. Now though I cannot agree the hundreth part of those Persons to be Pensioners , which out of an envy to the Government , the Common people are instructed to call so ; yet I shall never differ with him upon this point , that the Money of Lewis the Fourteenth may perhaps have been current in England , as well as that of Lewis the Eleventh was . The other story is that of Lewis the Eleventh to Charles Duke of Burgundy in the Case of Campobache . The French King advertizes the Duke of Burgundy ( they being then in hostility ) that the Count Campobache was a Traytor to him : But the Duke would not believe it . And there was one Cifron also , who was of the Plot with Campobache : This same Cifron , being taken prisoner by the Duke before Nancy , and condemned to dye ; gave the Duke to understand , that he had a most Important secret to communicate to him . But the Duke neither giving admittance to Cifron , nor credit to the King ; lost his Life afterward , and his Dominions , by being too incredulous . m The Appellant applies this to his Majesties Case , in Language so course and scandalous , that there is no repeating of it . And what does all this amount to , but that a n Prince may as well be undone by believing too much , as too little ? If he had Trusted either less to Campobache , or more to the King , it had come all to a purpose . He will have his Majesty in danger for not believing enough of the Popish Plot : But his Royal Father was Ruin'd on the other side , by not believing enough of the Presbyterian Plot. And God grant that his present Majesty may only believe so much of that Plot over again , as may stand with his honour and safety . But it appears in this place , by the coursness of the Appellants Expressions , and by the byass of the whole Libel throughout , that he is not so much concern'd for the Kings believing or not believing , as o to fasten a scandal upon his Majesty , by perswading the People , that the King does not believe it ; and consequently to possess them , that his Majesty is a favourer of Popery , though never any Prince in Christendom gave more Convincing and Irrefragable Proofs of the contrary . This passage of the Duke of Burgundy ( he says Fol. 4. ) may be very much to our purpose , to shew you , p that when God designs the destruction of a King or People , he makes them deaf to all discoveries be they never so obvious . And having Levelled the Application in particular , he speculates in general terms ( toward the bottom of the leaf ) upon the whole matter . There are four several Arguments ( he says ) which many times prevail with Princes to be incredulous of all pretended Conspiracies against themselves . The First is drawn from their being in , or made privy themselves to Part of the Plot , but not to the whole . The Second , from their own good nature , and Clemency . The Third , from the nature of the Evidence . And the Fourth from the nature and Interest of the pretended Conspirators . To begin then with the First , when the Prince hath been made acquainted with a Design of Introducing a New Government , or a New Religion , but not with the Design of taking away his own life , this sometimes hath prevailed with him not to believe , that the same party with whom he himself is in a Conspiracy , should have any such other Plot against his Life . But this I hope is not Our Case , For &c. — And then he Reasons that his Majesty could get nothing by it . Fol. 3. We shall put him together now , and make English of him , First , he makes the Duke of Burgundies Case , in his Deafness to Discoveries , to be the Kings . Secondly , He infers from that Deafness , that God has Design'd his Majesty to Destruction . Thirdly , he takes upon him to Philosophize upon the Reasons of Princes Incredulity in such Cases ; and very fairly represents his Majesty as a Party in-the Conspiracy , and consenting to the Introduction of a New Government and a New Religion , though not privy to the Plot of taking away his Own Life . Only he concludes with a [ But this I hope is not Our Case ] in such a way of q Doubting as implies Believing . And so much for the first point . The Second Motive ( he says Fol. 5. ) which may incline a Prince to disbelieve the Report of a Plot , is , from his Own Good Nature , and Clemency ; which makes him not believe any ill of those to whom he has been so kind . But this is a fallacious way of arguing . Now by his Favour , This is not so much an Argument from Good Nature , on the One side , as from the Tye of Gratitude , on the Other : but whether way soever it be taken , the Late King found it indeed a very fallacious way of arguing : for almost all his Acts of Grace , and bounty , turn'd to his mischief , as appears in his Majesties Declaration , of Aug. 12. 1642. when after delivering up his Ministers to Impeachments , his Concessions in the business of the Star-Chamber , High-Commission Court , Ship-Money , Forest-Laws , Stannery-Courts , Tonnage and Poundage , Continuance of the Parliament , &c. they improv'd all these Trusts , and Condescensions even to the formal taking away his Authority , Revenue , and Life . And those particularly whom his Late Majesty Oblig'd to the highest degree , laid the foundation of his Ruine . Nor is the ingratitude of the same party to the Son less notorious , then the other was to the Father : None flying so fiercely in the face of the Kings Authority and person , as those that stand indebted to the King for their Lives and Estates ; who yet act as confidently , as if one Rebellion might be placed in Justification of another . For they do now afresh and in publick avow the methods and practises of the late Times ; while the true sons and servants both of the English r Church and State , lie in the dust , waiting for the righteous Judgment of the Lord in want , and patience . Now if according to the Appellants Rule those are the most dangerous , to whom the King has been most kind , that danger must be understood of the Fanatiques ; for otherwise the Appealer runs the Hazzard of a Premunire , upon the Act for the safety of the Kings Person , in scandalizing his Majesty for a favourer of Popery . It is not yet that the general Rule fails , because of this Exception : For the greater the Obligation , the greater in reason ought to be the confidence , though the Appellant seems to be of another opinion . Who betrays you in your Beds ? ( says he ) your Friend ; for your Enemy is not admitted to your House . Who betrays you in your Estate ? your Friend ; for your Enemy is not made your Trustee . So that nothing is more dangerous then a blind friendship . This is an admirable fetch of his , to prove his Royal Highness dangerous to his Majesty , because he is both a Friend and a Brother ; and still the Nearer , the more dangerous : as if the King were safer in the hands of his Enemies , then of his Friends . But he expounds himself , that they are more dangerous , in respect of greater Confidence , and fairer Opportunities . There is no fence against that danger , but utterly to cast off and renounce all the Bonds , and Dictates of Society and Good Nature . s We must contract no Friendships , and trust no Relations , for fear they should cut our Throats . How much more wretched then the very Beasts , has our Appealer at this rate made Mankind , by poysoning the very Fountain of Humane Comforts ? Nor is it a Friend that betrays us ; but an Enemy , under that appearance : By which Rule an Episcopal , a Fanatical , a Popish Friend , are all equally dangerous : For a Man has no more security of a Friend under one denomination , then under another . But the Appellant in this place speaks of the danger of a blind Friendship ; that is to say , a kindness that is taken up without any consideration , or Choice , and runs on without fear or wit : which in this application , must either be very little respectfull , or altogether Impertinent .. He produces instances of perfidious Favourites and Relations : as if there were no other to be found in Nature . By his Argument , because One Woman poyson'd her Husband , all men should destroy their Wives : Because One Son supplanted his Father , all Parents should drown their Children like Kitlins . Because One Younger Brother offer'd violence to his Elder , there should be no longer any Confidence , or Faith maintain'd among Brethren . If little petty Interests ( says he ) make one Brother-wish the others Death , how much more prevalent will the Interest of a Crown be ? Nay of two Crowns , viz. One here , and another hereafter in Heaven , promis'd him by an Old fellow with a bald pate , and a spade-beard . As to the Argument , this is only the Second Part to the same Tune ; and a Particular Instance improv'd into an Universal Exception . t There are Wicked Husbands , Wives , Children ; Let there be no more Marrying . Men have been poyson'd in the Sacrament , in their Cups , and Dishes ; shall we therefore never receive the Communion , nor Drink , nor Eat ? There have been Tyrants in all forms of Governments , shall we therefore have no Government at all ? And moreover , as this way of Reasoning Lessens all the Bonds of Humane Trust , and Concord , and runs us back again into Mr. Hobb's Original State of War , so does it as little serve the Appellants purpose , even if it were admitted . First , The Temptation of a Crown does not work upon any Man , either as a Brother , or as a stranger : but equally upon Both ; and more , or less , as the man is more , or less Consciencious or Ambitious . So that the danger arises from the u Humour of the Person , not from the Relation . Nay Secondly , The Danger is Greater , from a Popular Faction that has no Right at all to a Crown , than from a Legal Pretendent to it , upon a Claim of Descent . For the One only waits his Time , according to the course of Nature , whereas the Other presses his end by the ways of Bloud and Violence , having no other way to compass it : He makes it yet a stronger argument , where there is but One Life betwixt a Successor and Three Kingdoms : w But does not this Argument hold as strong on the other side ? There was only the King's Life betwixt the Faction of 1641 , and the Three Kingdoms , which Life they took away , and so possest themselves of his Dominions . Their pretence was only a Reformation of Abuses ; with Horrid , and Multiply'd Oaths , that they designed Only the Glory of God , the Honour of the King , the Preservation of the Protestant Religion His Majesty ( they said ) was misled by Popish Counsels ; and their Business was no more than to rescue him out of the hands of Papists , and bring him home to his Parliament . And what was the Event of all ? A Gracious Prince was Murther'd , and 500 Tyrants set up in his stead : Our Religion , and Our Laws were Trampled upon ; and the Free-born English-men subjected to a Bondage , below that of Gaily-slaves : The whole Nation becoming a Scandal , a Hissing , and a Scorn , to all our Neighbours , round about us . But what were these People , all this while ? If we may credit the Appellant , they were Priests and Iesuits ; Or at least , Papists : But the King tells us , they were Brownists , Anabaptists , and Other Sectaries ; Preaching Coachmen , Felt-makers , &c. The Act for Indempnity gives us a List of the Regicides : The Act of Uniformity stiles them Schismatiques , and throughout the whole History of their Acts , and Ordinances , there appear none but Dissenting Protestants : The Church of England being the Only Sufferer , betwixt the Two Extreams . And these People had the Interest of the Two Crowns in prospect too ; which the Appellant descants so Jollily upon : x Almost every Pulpit promising Salvation to the Fighters of the Lords Battels against the Lords Anointed , with a Cursed be He ( at the End on 't , ) that doth the work of the Lord Negligently . Upon the Third Head he says , that most Princes Believe , or Disbelieve the Information which is given them of a Plot , according to the Nature of the Evidence , and Credit of the Informants . There is no more in This , than that most Princes Believe , upon the Common Inducements that move all men of Reason whatsoever , to Believe ; Viz The Probability of the matter in Question , and the Credit of the Witnesses . Now as to the Popish Plot ; we shall give him these Two Points for Granted , but without discharging a Plot likewise , on the Other hand , upon the same Principles , and no less pregnant Evidence . y We do not speak here of the Popish Plot , which the Papists would most sillily have turn'd upon the Presbyterians ; ( the shallowest Contrivance certainly that ever was hatch'd , and the most palpable Imposture : ) But we speak of a Plot that was Bred and born in the Fanatical party ; z whereof we have as many Witnesses almost as Readers ; in Forty Libels of That Leaven , and Extraction : Beside several Open and Violent attempts upon the Government , which do unanimously bear Testimony against them . The Following parts of This Paragraph are wrought into such a Complication of Zeal and Scandal ( one Snap at the King , and another at the Plot ) that every period is a Bait : And whoever touches upon it , is sure of a Hook in his Nostrils . Under Colour of Asserting and making out the Truth of the Plot , ( which no sober man doubts of ) he throws Dirt upon his Majesty and his Ministers , for dodging , and Imposing upon the People , in favour of it . One while too Much comes out , another while too Little. The Frequent Dissolutions and Prorogations of Parliaments ( he says expresly ) a were to prevent the Tryal of the Lords : And so the Squib runs sputtering on , from the King to his Privy Councel ; Thence , to his Courts of Justice ; and in One word , b the whole Story comes to no more than a Political abstract out of Harris's Domestick Intelligence . But why these Pamphlets to the Multitude ? First , There 's no fear of the peoples running into Popery : For 't is their Horrour and Aversion . Secondly , There 's no need of Convincing Them of the Truth of the Plot : c But rather to keep them from Extravagances , upon the Jealousies and apprehensions they conceive of it already . Thirdly , There 's no need neither of calling Them to our assistance , toward the suppressing of it : For the sifting and Examining of this Conspiracy , with the bringing of the Confederates to Publique Justice , is a great part of the business of the Government . So that these Libels cannot be reasonably understood to have any Other than these Two ends . First , To Teaze and Chafe the Rabble into a Rage , disposing and preparing them to entertain any occasion for uproar and Tumult . Secondly , When their Bloud is up against d This Detestable Plot , with the Contrivers , Promoters , and abetters of it ; what does he , but turn the Rancour of That Outragious Humour upon the King , Privy Councel , Courts of Justice ; and Briefly , all his Friends ; by marking Them out for Parties in the Treason : And so rendring his Majesty , and his Government Odious , by these Malicious Insinuations , and endangering the Peace of the Publique , to the Highest Degree ? The Fourth and Last Argument ( says he ) which may sometimes prevail with the Prince to disbelieve any report of a Conspiracy , is taken from the Nature and Principles , and from the In●erest , of the Pretended Conspiratours . But neither of these Motives can pretend to Influence Our Prince into a Disbelief of This Popish Plot , Fol. 7. The Appellants Observation and Inference is this , that the Popish Plot is to be Believ'd , because it squares with the Principles and Interest of the Party . We are better informed in the History and Doctrine of Massacres , and Regicides , then to question the Malice of the Jesuitical Positions , or the credibility of the Plot here in Debate : and so we shall yield him in the Hellish Tenet , which he insists upon , of Murthering KINGS , and a Hellish Tenet it is indeed ; and as Hellish undoubtedly in a Schismatique , as in a Jesuit . For his Quarrel otherwise is to the Faction , not to the Maxim , which is equally Dangerous and detestable in all Factions . Now wheresoever we find the same Principles , we have the Appellants leave honestly to suspect the same Designs . Was not this the Doctrine of the Fanatiques from Forty , to Sixty ? And did they not make good their Doctrine by their Practise ? Did they not declare the King Accountable to the People ? And did they not put him to Death , upon that Foundation ? We have the very Journals themselves of those Times , to prove what we say : beside the Damned Harmony of their best received Authors to that purpose . e We propound ( say the Remonstrants ) that the Person of the King may be speedily brought to Justice , for the Treason , Bloud and Mischief he is Guilty of . An Act ( says another ) agreeing with the Laws of God , Consonant to the Laws of Men , and the Practices of all Well-order'd States and Kingdoms . Let Justice and Reason blush ( says another ) and Traytors and Murtherers , Parricides and Patricides put on white Garments and Rejoyce as Innocent ones , if this man ( speaking of the Late King ) should escape the hands of Justice and Punishment . The Government of England ( says a Fourth ) is a Mixt Monarchy , and Govern'd by the Major Part of the Three Estates assembled in Parliament . Whensoever a King ( says a Fifth ) or other Superior Authority , Creates an Inferior , they invest it with a Legitimacy of Magistratical Power , to punish themselves also , in case they prove Evil Doers . It is Lawful ( says a Sixth ) for any , who have the Power , to call to account a Tyrant or wicked King ; and after due Conviction , to Depose and put him to Death , if the Ordinary Magistrate have deny'd to do it . Detrahere Indigno , &c. It is not for private persons to Depose a wicked Governour ; but that the Universality of the People may Lawfully do it , I think no body questions . These Seditious Positions , with many more , ( and some worse , perhaps ) were publiquely Printed and avow'd before his Majesties Return . And the very same Principles , with Pestilent Additions to them , have been expos'd by the same Party , in the face of the Sun , since his Majesties Restauration . And there is scarce a Pamphlet without something of this Mixture , that comes from any of the Private and Pragmatical Intermeddlers in the present Controversie . So that the Principles are the very same , as to the Quality and Ingredients , under several Colours . And so much for their Principles : Now to their Interests . In his following way of Reasoning ; under the Countenance of proving it to be the Papists Interest to Murther the King , he does all he can in the world , by a side-wind , to possess them with the Necessity of doing it ; and consequently , to force them upon it : Only , as good luck is , the Arguments will not bear that stress . I should not dare to speak his words after him , if it were not , f First , that the Libell is already , by several Impressions of it , made as Publique as a News-Book . And Secondly , that his Propositions are erected upon a false Bottom ▪ Upon which two Considerations , we shall presume to insert only two Periods of his , upon this Subject . Their Interest ( says he ) does unavoidably excite them to Murther his Sacred ●ajesty ; For First , they know he cannot long subsist without a Considerable Sum of Money , which he must Receive either from the Party , or from the Parliament : Now for them to supply him with so vast a Sum , is a Charge , that ( you may well imagine ) they would desire to get rid of it , if they could , tho by the Kings Death . On the other side , for the Parliament to supply him with money , that , they know , cannot be done but by taking off the Heads of their Faction ; excluding their Succession , and consenting to such Laws as must of Necessity ruine them : Besides , his Majesty hath already permitted the Executing so many of their Party , as they never can or will forgive it . It falls out Happily that the force of his Argument does not come up to the Drift of it . But the Weakness of the One , takes off the Edge of the Other . g He tells the whole world , that the Papists have no way in the Earth to save themselves , but by the Murther of the King. The One half of this spoken in a Corner to a Knot of Priests and Jesuits , and fairly prov'd upon a man , would be as much as his Head 's worth . And is the Crime ever the Lesse for doing the same thing in Publique , where the Provocation is stronger ? These Discourses are not to pass for Simple Declarations of a mans Opinion ; but Artificial Encouragements rather , and Advises , toward the doing of the thing ; especially coming from the Pen of a Person that calls himself h Junius Brutus , and recommends himself to the City by the Borrow'd name of a King-killer . Tho' I cannot inform my self of any of that Family that lives near Richmond . His First Argument runs thus . The King wants money ; and there 's none to be got , but either of the Papists , or of the Parliament . The Parliament , he says , will give his Majesty none ; and therefore the Papists will Murther him to save Charges . This is a Policy far fetch'd : The Fathers Head ( we know ) was set at a Price , but we hope better of the Sons : Now in his prejudging the Parliament , upon an Assumption that the King gets not a penny of Mony of them , but upon such and such Terms ; i he does not so much speak his thought , as vent his Proposition ; rather Desireing , then Foreseeing that the Houss of Commons will hold the King to such unhappy Conditions . And then he finishes his Contemplation with this Conclusion , that the Papists will never forgive his Majesty , for what he has done already . Wherein , First , he Contradicts himself , in supposing the King an En●my to the Papists , whom he has hitherto insinuated to be their Friend . And Secondly , instead of proving the Papists Design against the King in this Particular , he advances One of his Own. Now if he would have come roundly up to the Point of the Papists Interest , he should have told us of the Ecclesiastical Dignities and Preferments that the Church of Rome has confer'd upon their Emissaries into his Majesties Dominions : And he should have expounded it to the people , what pains they take , and what Hazards they run , only in the playing of their Own Game , and making way to their advantages in Reversion . This is so great a truth , that most of the serious Catholiques themselves reflect familiarly upon these Busie People , as the common troublers of the Peace of Christendom : But then I should have oppos'd an Interest also on the Fanatiques side , to ballance this . For they have their Reversionall prospects too : their sequester'd Livings and Estates ; their plunder'd goods , their profitable Offices and Commissions , Crown and Church Lands , &c. And they wait for their day again as impatiently as the Jews do for their Messias . Nay to keep their title still a foot , they stand fast to their Old Covenant still , k as the Fanatiques Magna Charta ; by which they pretend to make out a Religious claim to all the advantages they got by sacriledge and oppression . So that their principles and interests lying indifferently against the Establisht Order both of Church and State ; there will be no need of casting either faults upon the other . After a worse then Astrological Determination upon the Kings Fate ; he bestows another Cast of his Cunning upon the City and Citizens of London , l which ( he says ) is in danger to be consum'd by Fire . It is a lewd and a seditious Hint , in both these Cases , the putting of it into the head , as it is much in the power of any profligate and desperate villain , to verify his calculation . Besides that in telling the Citizens what they are to expect , he does at the same time , Counsell the Papists what to do . They will burn London ; ( he says ) First , as the only United force , able to withstand Arbitrary Government , and without that , Popery can never prevail , If Popery cannot come in without Arbitrary Government , if the Iesuits design the burning of London , as the only United force that can withstand that power : either there is no fear of Popery and Arbitrary Government , and ( consequently ) of such a design taking place in this King's Reign ; or the whole calumny falls directly upon his Majesty himself : or otherwise , if the Appellants prospect looks forward into the future , what 's the meaning of all these Alarms , so unseasonably , to trouble our present peace with the sickly Visions of things to come ? And he should have done well also to have expounded himself a little upon the United Force that should withstand , and the Arbitrary Government to be withstood ? For otherwise , it may be taken for the sounding of a Trumpet to a Rebellion . m For the Arbitrary Government which he phansies to himself , must be exercised either by a Lawful Prince , or by an Vsurper : If by the Former ▪ his Tyranny is no Warrant for our opposition ; if the Latter , there 's no appearance of any other Vsurpation , then ( as we shall see presently ) of his own setting up . Secondly , He says that London is the only place where by reason of their Excellent Preaching and daily instruction in the Protestant Religion , the people have a lively sense thereof , and doubtless will not part with it , to pleasure a Prince ; but perhaps rather lose their Lives by the Sword in the Wars , than by Faggots , in Smithfield . The passage now is plain English ; and as many indignities upon the Government , crouded into one sentence , as could well be brought together . Here is First , an Exhortation to a Rebellion . For the Prince here in question , against whom the sword is to be drawn , can be no other , upon his supposition , n than actually the King. And let him take his choice now whether it shall be intended of his present Majesty , or of his Successour . It is a Rebellion against the King that now is , in the one Case , and against the Next King in the other : And Secondly , It is not only a simple Rebellion , but ( to the scandal of the Reformation , and particularly of the Church of England ) a Rebellion founded upon the Doctrine of the Protestant Religion : Thirdly , It is no other then ( as he himself has worded it ) the Hellish Tenet of Murthering Kings , in a disguise : only a Jesuitical Principle in Masquerade . It is , Fourthly , a Condemnation of the practices and submissions of the Primitive Christians , and the whole story of our Protestant Martyrology . He says , Thirdly , that the City is too powerful for any Prince that Governs not by the love of his people , which no Popish Successour can expect to do . This is the very Translation of his Name-sake , Junius Brutus , in his Vindiciae Contra Tyrannos . If the Prince fails in his promise ( says he ) the people are exempt from their obedience . The contract is made void , and the right of obligation is of no force . It is therefore permitted to the Officers of a Kingdom , either all , or some good number of them , to suppress a Tyrant . Here 's a great deal of virulence in his Discourse , without one word of weight , to countenance it . For the well-being of this City is so essentially requisite to the well-being of this Kingdom , that the very charge of the Government is not to be defray'd without it . So that it is the interest of all Governours to cherish , and support it . Here he trifles away some half a score lines more about the Fire ; and then , from the danger of the City , advances to the further danger accruing to the Citizens , as well as to the whole Kingdom , upon the King 's untimely Death . The greatest danger ( says he ) will proceed from a confusion , and want of some Eminent and Interested persons , whom you may trust to lead you up against a French and Popish Army . For which purpose no person is fitter then his Grace the Duke of Monmouth , as well for Quality , Courage and Conduct ; as for that his life and fortune depends upon the same bottom with Yours ▪ He will stand by you , therefore ought you to stand by him : And remember the old rule is , He who hath the worst Title , ever makes the best King. Does he suppose this confusion upon the death of the King ; or the burning of the City , or before , or after ? o Or has he consulted either the Illustrious Person , or the Honourable City ( that he makes so bold with ) to know whether or not the one would accept of such a Commission upon the Appellants terms , or the other offer it ? the Character that he is pleas'd to bestow upon his Grace , for his Quality , Courage , and Conduct , is not unknown to any man that ever so much as heard of his Name . But the Appellant never considers that all these glorious circumstances are point blank contradictions to his design . How can he imagine that so brave a Person can ever stoop to so mean a thought ; and suffer himself , by a Prostitute Libell , to be inchanted out of his Honour , reason , and Allegiance ? Or that the most Eminent City of Christendom for purity of Religion , Loyalty to their Prince , Power , Good Government , Wealth and Resolution , should be cajol'd out of all these blessings and advantages , by the Jesuitical Fanaticism of a Dark-lanthorn-Pamphlet ? But to what end is all this clutter ? the Appellant has a mind ( it seems ) to p change his Master . He who hath the worst Title ( he says ) ever makes the best King ; which is a very fair proposition for setting up of a worse Title , in his Majesties place . From hence he goes forward , still computing upon his Majesties death , as a thing to be taken for granted ; and so recommending himself to the most worthy Citizens , he finishes his Appeal . FINIS . Notes, typically marginal, from the original text Notes for div A25572-e140 (a) So that either all Honest Men are Mutiniers , or all Mutiniers Honest Men : which makes him joyn them together . (b) Here he shews himself to be an Informer , (c) Wat Tyler's endeavour was to destroy the Kings Life and Government , and plunder the City : whereas the Appeal desires to save King , City and Government , or at least to revenge their sufferings . (d) This year of 41. is indeed very remarkable for the Massacre of 250000 poor Irish Protestants , by the Papists . (e) I suppose our Author is the only party that accuses the Honourable City . (f) Herein I must agree with him , that the City lost many things by the last Civil War ; for they lost the Star-Chamber , High-Commission-Court , Knights-Service , Court of Wards , Privy-Seals , &c. (a) At first he claws the City , but here you see his Complement does not hold long , likening some of them to Horse-turds . (b) Here he begins to withdraw you from believing or fearing a Popish Plot. (c) This Parallel is no other but an Harangue for Popery , and against all the Protestants , under the name of Schismaticks * As many times this Fidler hath done . (d) Given for the Peoples own servi●e and security , th●refore less grievous . (e) The sum of this parallel is , that he wrongfully accuses another of stealing an Ox , to justifie his own Theft of a Horse : & since he cannot have the impudence to clear his own Popish Party of a Plot , yet he hopes at least to extenuate their crime , by unjustly calumniating the Protestants . (f) Now to shew that this was written by a Papist , examine the Catholick Naked Truth , where you may find their usual way of writing is to set up their own Doctrine , by making the Protestants and Fanaticks fall out . (g) Sure this Author is in the Plot himself , that he makes our present danger and the Plot to be but a Supposition or Vision , when both King and Parliament have declared it real . (h) As this Scribler would do our Abby Lands , were his Religion uppermost . (i) Nor Papists , till just before a Parliaments dissolution . (k) Here he supposes the best part of the House of Commons would lay the Kingdom in bloud , whereas such men as he calls Good Members would lay the City in ashes . (l) Many things are lawful , but not expedient ; and 't is evident by this , he fears nothing more than a Sessions of Parliament , therefore an enemy to the Government by Parliament . (m) Not upon the King , but such as advise him to it , for we all know that the King can do no wrong . (n) Since the Appeal first came out , hath not Dangerfield discover'd many new Plots , in order to the carrying on of the old one ? (o) Here he disguises himself , and would be thought a Protestant forsooth (p) By this I guess he had a hand in the late forg'd Plot. (q) None of these Principles are in the Appeal , therefore not to his purpose . (r) Private malice of some Relation of that Person , whom the Bishop had hang'd after promise of pardon , revenged his bloud upon the Bishop ; so as the whole Party is not to be blamed . (s) Because the unarm'd Scotch Rabble took up Arms against some few that oppressed them , and made a declaration of their grievances , therefore he would have us forget the Popish Plot that is in England . (t) Not upon that score do we think him banish'd , but upon some false furmises suggested to his Majesty by his Popish Enemies , although they did it with that design . (u) Witness Willoughby's Relation : Witness the Priests daily taken . All this is but to lull us asleep , for them to devour us . (w) This is apparently false , for the words are , The first hour you hear of the King 's untimely end , which I think ▪ supposes the King's Murder , and may be so understood by any but our Clodpate Author . (x) If King James , when he had secret notice of the Gunpowder-Treason , had seem'd to disbelieve it , this Answerer would have esteem'd it the part of a good Subject to have been quiet , and suffer'd the King and Parliament to have danced in the Air , rather than to have been so presumptuous a Presbyterian , as to prevent it by a clamour for Justice against the Popish Traitors . (y) Here he tells you his design , which is , That when the Papists have murder'd the King , it may be laid upon the Presbyteriant . (z) Sure as can be our Author here was to have been one of the Evidences in this feign'd Presbyterian Plot. a I 'le lay my life he is painted in some of these Characters , if not in all ; that make him so out of humour with this description . b Here be pleas'd to observe , that he divides the Kingdom but into two parts : the on● ( as he says ) consisting of Mutiniers and Schismatiques , by whom he has all along mean● no other than Fanatiques : the other party , of Loyal Servants and Subjects of the Government , into which Classis he must by consequence design to rank the Papists , for that he ●e● no room for them elsewhere . c See how bravely he pleads here for our Client the Conclave ? any thing for money : he can Fiddle to all Governments . d Polemical discourse , Anglicè , Scolding , or Billingsgate is the whole Argument of this Book . e All against poor Protestants , and not one censure of the Papists : this is too gross ; examine his Faith by his Works . f He forgets Secretary Windebank's Orders in savour of them . g Only in that place signifies no more but that had it not been for Popery , all had been quiet . h Did not Aaron himself the High-Priest turn and comply with the Peoples Idolatry , in helping them to a golden Calf ? what has been , may be again . i For that the Separatists ( as he calls them ) were then in most danger . k Machiavel ( who was perhaps as old , though not so wise as this Scribler ) plainly shews , that England can never long continue a Republick , by reason of the ●oo great corruption and scarcity of publitk Spirits in the Nation . l As who should say , this Author loves Monarchy for Popery's s●ke . m Still for the Papists . n Not worth God-a-mercy . o All this is in behalf of Popery . p The consequence extended further than at first design'd . q Dr. Du Moulin will satisfie any in this matter . r Since this Appeal came forth , the late feign'd Plot justifies all this upon the Papists , notwithstanding our impotent Scribler lays all upon the Fanatiques , to clear himself and his Party . s This Story in the Appeal was unanswerable , and therefore not to his purpose . t As if half a hundred Priests would set thousands of silly people together by the ears . u It may be policy requires them to let some few die , rather than discover their Power at present . w He makes the Papists invisible and fictitious Evidence , and defames the Kings Evidence . x Very true , for how could Dr. Oates say they had done it , before they had ? we all agree that he only mentions their design , which was effected long since he gave in his Evidence . y Because not required ; but many can justifie it upon Oath . z So call'd , because many of the Officers were Papists . a The Parliament chiefly desired their disbanding : so as he accuses them for being privy to the Scotch Insurrection . b This tacit Confession is as improper an expression , as exposition . c Who knows but many of them were Papists in disguise , like our Author ? however , they might like Pontius Pilate , deliver him up to be crucified , and then wash their hands of his death . d This is an Answer to his own former Parallel , wherein he goes to vindicate the Papists , by accusing the Fanaticks . e Howbeit he here endeavours to justifie the French's ill usage of his Majesty , yet being unable to disprove our Civilities to the French as false , he takes no notice of it . f The danger of the Kings person ' , Religion , and Government , by reason of the Plot ; together with the many Jesuitical Fires , loss of Trade , and danger of the French power , are none of them Calamities to our Author ? who would rejoyce at them , as being a Papist , and would therefore have us think them all imaginary and remote , till they really happen . g All this page is V●x praet●rea n●h●l , nothing but florid nonsence , wherein he compares the fear of his Majesties death , to the fear of Corns and Chilblains . h Meaning the Duke's death , the King 's surviving , and the Duke's conversion : as if no man must take care for the future , because there is a bare possibility of succeeding without it . i Still harping upon the same string , so that this Pamphlet is nothing but Tautology and Popery . A man would guess that this Author was once so near hanging , as to have a Presbyterian Rope about his Neck , that makes him so much inveigh against them . k Did our Pr●nces never live in France ? l Because one King was ( as he says ) murder'd by Protestants , therefore our Author would have us fear them more than the Papi●ts , who have murder'd many : so partial is a Pap●st in his own cause . m Male dum recitas , incipit esse tuum : you your self apply it . n I wish he had here shew'd us some example of a Prince ruin'd by over-caution ; or shew'd us some Argument why the Duke of Burgundy had come to the same end , if he had credited the Kings admonition : abund●us cautela non nocet . o Evil to him that Evil thinks , p Was it not an old observation of the Ancients , Quos Jupiter vult perdere hos prius dementa● q What a way of Reasoning is this ? r Here he practises that Popish Doctrine of Merit in Temporals , as well as Spirituals ; when vainly boasting of his own deserts , he doth implicitely tax both King , Church and State with ingratitude . s I think any reasonable man will confess , that a Papist at this time is a dangerous companion . t This Argument in the Appeal holds only against such Friends or Relations who are suspected to have attempted our Lives . u And from ●is Religion , if Popery . w The gain and expectation which is divided among the populace , is not of such power , as when united in one single person , who has all by the others death . Especially at this time they can wish nothing more than the King's Death , a Papist being to succeed him ; for every Englishman ought to desire the King should live as long as the Duke of York , or any other person : Now if the King does live as long as the Duke , then the Duke can never be King ; therefore every Englishman ought to desire the Duke may never be their King. x Here he takes no notice of the Jesuitical K●ng-killing Principles ; all his design being to render Protestants odious . y But he means it , and blames nothing in the said Plot , but the ill conduct of it , calling it only silly , but not impious . z Witnesses come from St. Omers . a 'T is not said were , but did prevent their Tryals , and that no man can deny . b Why ? because he printed it . c How fearful he is left a Pope should be burnt ; or Papist upon the account of the Plot be affronted . d 'T is to be supposed , he has a dispensation for that word Detestable . e He cannot here quote his Authors , because all these Principles were taken out of the Iesuits Morals , which he here fixes on the Fanaticks . f Here he does the Author of the Appeal no small honour unawares , in making his Book so generally approv'd of . g Everyman that has but so litte w●t as our Author , knew the Papists Interest before : so that I conceive this was written only to demonstrate the danger his Majesty is in . h Why might not the Author of the Appeal , like some of the Popes , take a Name upon him contrary to his Nature . i You are well acquainted sure with the Author , to know his thoughts . k I hope he doth not esteem all that are for Magna Charta , to be Fanaticks . l I think sad experience hath already justified this hint , which he calls malicious , as if he thought himself concern'd in Firing ; 't is evident his principles would let him . m Here he pleads for Ar●●trary Go●●●nment . n The Sword is in the Appeal no where bid to be drawn but against a Popish Successor , and that too when the King is murdered . So that at the worst it is but Treason by Anticipation , which is not mention'd in our Law. o Notwithstanding this Authors flattery of his Grace and the City , yet their wisdom will certainly unmask him ; whom if I knew , 't is probable I might get a hundred pound for taking a Jesuit . p I cannot perceive the Author of the Appeal has any such design against the King , but rather the contrary ; since both by the Title , Arguments against the Plot , and Prayer for the King at last , he seems to aim at nothing more than his Majesties preservation , whom I pray God defend from the hands and counsels of all su●h evil men 25 this Author .