Two speeches spoken at Oxford by the Right Honovrable, Edward, Earle of Dorset before His Majesty and the lords of his Privy-councell the one at his receiving the office of Lord privy-seal : the other at his being made president of His Majesties Councell : shewing his good affection to the Parliament and the whole state of this kingdome.
         Dorset, Edward Sackville, Earl of, 1591-1652.
      
       
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             Two speeches spoken at Oxford by the Right Honovrable, Edward, Earle of Dorset before His Majesty and the lords of his Privy-councell the one at his receiving the office of Lord privy-seal : the other at his being made president of His Majesties Councell : shewing his good affection to the Parliament and the whole state of this kingdome.
             Dorset, Edward Sackville, Earl of, 1591-1652.
          
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           TWO
           SPEECHES
           Spoken
           at
           OXFORD
           ,
           BY
           THE
           
             RIGHT
             HONOVRABLE
             ,
             Edward
             ,
          
           Earle
           of
           
             Dorset
             ,
          
           before
           His
           
             Majesty
             ,
          
           and
           the
           Lords
           of
           His
           
             Privy-Councell
             .
          
           The
           one
           ,
           At
           his
           receiving
           the
           Office
           of
           Lord
           
             Privy-Seale
             .
          
           The
           other
           ,
           At
           his
           being
           made
           President
           of
           His
           MAJESTIES
           COVNCELL
           .
           Shewing
           his
           good
           affection
           to
           the
           .
           Parliament
           ,
           and
           the
           whole
           State
           of
           this
           Kingdome
           .
        
         
         
           First
           printed
           at
           
             Oxford
          
           by
           
             Leonard
             Lichfield
             ,
          
           and
           now
           reprinted
           at
           
             London
          
           for
           
             Edward
             Hartley
             .
          
        
      
    
     
       
       
       
         
           Two
           Speeches
           spoken
           at
           
             Oxford
          
           by
           the
           Right
           Honourable
           
             Edward
          
           Earle
           of
           
             Dorset
             ,
          
           before
           His
           MAJESTY
           ,
           and
           the
           Lords
           of
           His
           
             Privy-Councell
             .
          
        
         
           
             My
             Lords
             ,
          
        
         
           I
           Am
           now
           by
           the
           death
           of
           the
           Earle
           of
           Manchester
           ,
           through
           His
           Majesties
           speciall
           favour
           invested
           with
           the
           keeping
           of
           the
           Privy
           Seale
           ,
           an
           Office
           of
           which
           I
           have
           had
           long
           the
           reversion
           ,
           and
           by
           the
           possession
           of
           it
           I
           am
           intituled
           to
           one
           of
           the
           supremest
           places
           of
           judicature
           in
           the
           kingdome
           ;
           made
           Judge
           ,
           
             ex
             officio
             ,
          
           of
           the
           second
           Court
           of
           Conscience
           in
           England
           ,
           namely
           ,
           the
           Court
           of
           Requests
           instituted
           by
           that
           
             Solomon
          
           of
           our
           Nation
           ,
           
             Henry
          
           the
           seventh
           for
           the
           ease
           and
           reliefe
           of
           the
           Subject
           ,
           tyred
           with
           the
           tedious
           processe
           of
           suites
           in
           Chancery
           :
           And
           surely
           ,
           in
           the
           Earle
           of
           Manchesters
           time
           ,
           the
           Court
           of
           Requests
           had
           few
           lesse
           suites
           depending
           in
           it
           ,
           through
           the
           industry
           and
           equity
           of
           the
           man
           ,
           then
           the
           Chancery
           it selfe
           .
           So
           perfectly
           was
           he
           skilled
           in
           all
           the
           nicities
           of
           the
           Lawes
           ,
           having
           passed
           through
           all
           the
           signall
           offices
           of
           the
           gowne
           in
           this
           kingdome
           .
           And
           surely
           ,
           my
           Lords
           ,
           it
           will
           
           be
           a
           hard
           matter
           for
           me
           ,
           who
           am
           not
           so
           well
           versed
           in
           the
           Lawes
           ,
           to
           governe
           that
           Province
           so
           exactly
           as
           my
           Predecessor
           ;
           yet
           sure
           I
           shall
           make
           it
           the
           supreamest
           end
           of
           my
           endeavours
           ,
           to
           performe
           my
           charge
           ,
           though
           not
           with
           so
           much
           Law
           as
           he
           did
           ,
           yet
           with
           as
           much
           conscience
           .
           Conscience
           ,
           which
           as
           it
           is
           the
           fountaine
           from
           which
           all
           good
           Lawes
           are
           derived
           ,
           ought
           to
           be
           used
           in
           administration
           of
           those
           Lawes
           ;
           and
           that
           I
           shall
           not
           faile
           in
           ,
           but
           faithfully
           accomplish
           the
           trust
           imposed
           on
           me
           by
           His
           sacred
           Majesty
           ,
           and
           performe
           right
           to
           the
           Subject
           ,
           according
           as
           right
           it selfe
           shall
           direct
           me
           .
        
         
           
             My
             Lords
             ,
          
           I
           could
           never
           like
           the
           over-severity
           of
           those
           Judges
           ,
           who
           by
           a
           modest
           tyranny
           ,
           authorized
           by
           custome
           ,
           strive
           to
           lengthen
           their
           rule
           over
           wretched
           men
           ,
           by
           an
           infinite
           processe
           of
           formall
           orders
           ,
           detaining
           the
           Causes
           of
           Clyents
           so
           long
           in
           their
           Courts
           ,
           till
           that
           which
           should
           rectiifie
           and
           settle
           the
           breaches
           and
           cavils
           in
           mens
           estates
           the
           Law
           it selfe
           ,
           consumes
           them
           :
           Very
           many
           persons
           of
           good
           ability
           beginning
           suites
           for
           sleight
           matters
           ,
           in
           the
           meere
           Law
           costs
           expending
           the
           best
           part
           of
           their
           fortunes
           .
           And
           is
           it
           not
           a
           thing
           much
           to
           be
           lamented
           ,
           that
           the
           Law
           ,
           which
           ought
           to
           be
           the
           repressor
           and
           composer
           of
           injuries
           ,
           should
           prove
           to
           the
           party
           injured
           a
           greater
           injury
           then
           the
           injury
           it selfe
           ?
           That
           the
           cure
           of
           a
           disease
           should
           carry
           in
           it
           a
           more
           lingring
           and
           fatall
           malady
           then
           the
           disease
           it selfe
           ?
           Surely
           Judges
           and
           too
           many
           such
           there
           are
           or
           have
           been
           ,
           forget
           that
           Goddesse
           ,
           under
           whose
           suffrage
           they
           should
           pronounce
           sentence
           ,
           I
           meane
           justice
           ;
           when
           they
           suffer
           the
           poore
           Clyents
           to
           be
           so
           grated
           ,
           as
           it
           were
           to
           powder
           by
           the
           Lawyers
           .
           Themselves
           ,
           though
           they
           dare
           not
           openly
           prostitute
           faire
           justice
           ,
           virgin
           whitenesse
           ,
           yet
           doe
           they
           adulterate
           her
           purity
           by
           
             proxie
             ,
          
           having
           their
           Factors
           to
           vent
           that
           commodity
           ,
           which
           indeed
           should
           not
           be
           bought
           for
           silver
           or
           gold
           ,
           Justice
           ;
           but
           now
           ,
           
             
               Quantum
               quisque
               sua
               nummorum
               servat
               in
               arca
               ,
            
             
               Tantum
               habet
               &
               legis
               .
               —
            
          
           no
           penny
           ,
           no
           Pater-noster
           ;
           no
           Coyne
           ,
           no
           Law
           :
           A
           hard
           case
           
           when
           people
           must
           pay
           for
           that
           which
           is
           their
           right
           ,
           or
           else
           be
           oppressed
           with
           injury
           ,
           so
           that
           that
           Devill
           money
           ,
           hath
           usurped
           the
           seat
           and
           heavenly
           countenance
           of
           that
           Angell
           Justice
           .
           The
           Egyptians
           in
           their
           Hieroglyphicks
           deciphered
           justice
           under
           the
           figure
           of
           an
           Elephant
           ;
           the
           nature
           of
           that
           beast
           for
           his
           strength
           being
           aptest
           to
           carry
           great
           burthens
           :
           intimating
           thereby
           ,
           that
           on
           the
           backe
           of
           justice
           all
           the
           weight
           of
           the
           Common-wealth
           should
           be
           imposed
           ,
           it
           being
           the
           only
           supporter
           of
           its
           welfare
           .
           But
           weake
           must
           that
           pillar
           be
           which
           hath
           so
           infirme
           a
           basis
           to
           rely
           on
           ,
           as
           is
           injustice
           ,
           nor
           can
           there
           be
           a
           more
           eminent
           wrong
           to
           the
           Subject
           ,
           then
           to
           make
           poore
           men
           from
           the
           furthest
           parts
           of
           this
           kingdome
           ,
           comming
           to
           London
           about
           Law-businesse
           ,
           wait
           there
           ,
           or
           come
           up
           thither
           Terme
           by
           Terme
           for
           divers
           yeares
           ;
           no
           ,
           nor
           a
           greater
           detriment
           to
           their
           estates
           .
           I
           was
           once
           in
           minde
           therefore
           (
           if
           it
           had
           pleased
           God
           ,
           that
           we
           who
           are
           servants
           to
           his
           Majesty
           ,
           had
           continued
           at
           London
           )
           to
           have
           made
           it
           a
           motion
           to
           the
           High
           Court
           of
           Parliament
           ,
           for
           passing
           a
           definitive
           sentence
           with
           His
           Majesties
           consent
           against
           this
           tedious
           prorogation
           and
           delaying
           of
           suites
           ;
           but
           the
           more
           are
           the
           times
           to
           be
           lamented
           ,
           that
           this
           ,
           nor
           any
           Law
           else
           of
           consequence
           for
           the
           good
           of
           the
           Subject
           can
           be
           enacted
           ,
           by
           reason
           of
           these
           civill
           uncivill
           wars
           and
           differences
           betwixt
           His
           sacred
           Majesty
           ,
           and
           His
           High
           Court
           of
           Parliament
           .
           Were
           those
           reconciled
           by
           a
           faire
           and
           happy
           unity
           ,
           I
           should
           with
           much
           joy
           and
           alacrity
           of
           spirit
           enter
           upon
           this
           honourable
           office
           ,
           and
           mannage
           it
           so
           ,
           as
           I
           should
           discharge
           a
           good
           conscience
           to
           God
           ,
           the
           duty
           of
           a
           true
           subject
           to
           my
           Prince
           ,
           and
           the
           honesty
           &
           integrity
           of
           a
           Judge
           ,
           to
           those
           who
           have
           Causes
           depending
           before
           me
           .
           But
           I
           should
           seeme
           too
           much
           my
           owne
           Trumpet
           ,
           did
           not
           your selves
           ,
           my
           Lords
           ,
           in
           your
           candid
           dispositions
           beleeve
           what
           I
           have
           uttered
           ;
           which
           when
           it
           shall
           please
           God
           and
           His
           Majesty
           ,
           that
           I
           have
           occasion
           ,
           amply
           ,
           as
           my
           predecessor
           did
           ,
           to
           execute
           my
           office
           ,
           I
           shall
           by
           my
           actions
           give
           warrantable
           proofe
           to
           what
           I
           have
           now
           uttered
           .
        
      
       
       
         
           Another
           
             SPEECH
          
           spoken
           by
           the
           said
           Earle
           to
           His
           
             MAJESTY
          
           when
           he
           was
           instituted
           President
           of
           His
           Councell
           .
        
         
           THe
           favours
           your
           Majesty
           in
           your
           Royall
           bounty
           hath
           so
           frequently
           conferred
           upon
           me
           ,
           so
           far
           transcend
           the
           meannesse
           of
           my
           desert
           ,
           that
           certainly
           I
           begin
           to
           accuse
           my
           modesty
           for
           accepting
           them
           ,
           and
           should
           absolutely
           condemne
           it
           ,
           without
           allowing
           it
           the
           benefit
           of
           its
           Clergie
           ,
           did
           not
           your
           Majesties
           sacred
           commands
           acquit
           it
           ,
           which
           must
           needs
           prevaile
           above
           all
           respects
           of
           my selfe
           upon
           my
           obedience
           ,
           and
           adapt
           my
           weaknesse
           and
           inabilities
           for
           my
           imployments
           in
           your
           Majesties
           service
           ,
           which
           hath
           ,
           and
           ever
           shall
           be
           ,
           the
           only
           centre
           of
           my
           intentions
           :
           Your
           Royall
           goodnesse
           ,
           like
           the
           Sunnes
           vertuall
           beams
           ,
           actuating
           my
           dull
           capacity
           for
           the
           discharging
           any
           place
           your
           gracious
           bounty
           shall
           cast
           upon
           me
           .
           And
           though
           your
           Majesty
           might
           have
           found
           out
           other
           Noble
           men
           my
           Peers
           ,
           who
           would
           have
           complied
           this
           charge
           of
           President
           of
           your
           Majesties
           Councell
           with
           more
           dexterity
           ;
           yet
           I
           dare
           boldly
           promise
           for
           my selfe
           ,
           that
           none
           amongst
           them
           should
           have
           performed
           it
           with
           more
           care
           and
           fidelity
           .
           The
           Councell
           of
           Kings
           are
           in
           the
           hands
           of
           the
           Almighty
           ;
           and
           those
           that
           are
           of
           their
           Councels
           ,
           ought
           to
           regulate
           their
           thoughts
           and
           actions
           so
           for
           the
           service
           of
           their
           Masters
           ,
           as
           they
           shall
           not
           be
           esteemed
           mere
           Polititians
           ,
           working
           in
           the
           gentlenesse
           and
           suavity
           of
           their
           natures
           for
           their
           owne
           ends
           ,
           but
           aiming
           perpetually
           at
           the
           common
           good
           ,
           which
           must
           needs
           conduce
           to
           the
           good
           of
           the
           Soveraigne
           .
           
           Councellers
           that
           erre
           out
           of
           this
           path
           ,
           are
           rather
           to
           be
           termed
           seducers
           ,
           and
           as
           such
           should
           be
           punished
           ,
           being
           indeed
           meere
           
             Achitophels
             ,
          
           crafty
           and
           malicious
           .
           And
           I
           must
           needs
           here
           deplore
           the
           present
           condition
           of
           your
           sacred
           Majesty
           (
           in
           my
           sorrow
           for
           your
           Royall
           disasters
           I
           expresse
           my
           humble
           gratitude
           for
           your
           bounties
           ;
           )
           your
           high
           Court
           of
           Parliament
           ,
           from
           which
           you
           are
           departed
           hither
           ,
           being
           of
           a
           settled
           opinion
           ,
           as
           appeares
           by
           their
           Declarations
           ,
           that
           all
           the
           machine
           of
           evills
           ,
           that
           like
           so
           many
           furies
           fly
           through
           your
           Highnesse
           Dominons
           ,
           have
           taken
           their
           originall
           from
           the
           perswasions
           of
           bad
           Councellors
           ;
           if
           any
           such
           there
           be
           ,
           or
           have
           beene
           about
           your
           sacred
           Majesty
           ,
           I
           shall
           most
           humbly
           pray
           for
           their
           removall
           or
           conversion
           from
           such
           sinister
           practises
           ,
           and
           thinke
           my selfe
           (
           my
           integrity
           shall
           gaine
           a
           remission
           for
           my
           boldnesse
           )
           ingaged
           in
           duty
           and
           conscience
           to
           informe
           your
           sacred
           Majesty
           ,
           that
           till
           such
           Councellors
           be
           removed
           from
           your
           gracious
           eares
           ,
           there
           will
           never
           be
           any
           hopes
           that
           the
           distractions
           of
           your
           Kingdomes
           can
           be
           setled
           ,
           the
           wounds
           of
           which
           it
           hath
           so
           long
           bled
           be
           imbalmed
           ,
           much
           lesse
           perfectly
           cured
           :
           For
           how
           can
           your
           Parliament
           ,
           the
           grand
           and
           supreme
           Councell
           of
           your
           Kingdome
           ,
           comply
           with
           the
           desires
           of
           your
           Majesty
           ,
           when
           they
           conjecture
           whatever
           they
           shall
           desire
           of
           your
           Majesty
           for
           your
           peoples
           welfare
           shall
           be
           thwarted
           &
           nullified
           by
           the
           intimations
           of
           some
           few
           private
           cabinet
           Councellors
           ,
           which
           was
           the
           reason
           I
           conjecture
           of
           their
           humble
           addresses
           to
           your
           Grace
           for
           the
           settling
           the
           election
           of
           your
           Councellors
           in
           the
           power
           of
           the
           Common-wealth
           ,
           namely
           ,
           in
           the
           trieniall
           Parliament
           .
           The
           Councellors
           to
           Kings
           ,
           if
           they
           should
           have
           the
           misfortune
           to
           prove
           ill
           ones
           ,
           having
           the
           Subjects
           safety
           at
           their
           mercy
           ,
           by
           the
           Royall
           authority
           which
           is
           then
           most
           splendent
           ,
           when
           it
           is
           most
           concurrent
           with
           the
           peoples
           prosperities
           ,
           and
           imployed
           for
           their
           defence
           ,
           and
           patronage
           against
           the
           oppression
           of
           evill
           Councellors
           ;
           who
           by
           their
           subtile
           and
           malignant
           practises
           ,
           doe
           oft-times
           ,
           as
           it
           were
           ,
           transforme
           the
           hearts
           of
           their
           Soveraignes
           from
           their
           native
           
           and
           genuine
           candor
           and
           sweetnesse
           ;
           by
           that
           meanes
           rendring
           their
           rules
           odious
           to
           their
           Subjects
           :
           
             Oderunt
             quia
             metuunt
             ,
          
           they
           alwayes
           detest
           what
           they
           are
           afeard
           of
           ,
           every
           man
           naturally
           hating
           that
           which
           they
           conceive
           will
           hurt
           them
           :
           but
           your
           Majesties
           owne
           wisdome
           ,
           and
           the
           excellent
           skill
           your
           Royall
           knowledge
           hath
           in
           discerning
           and
           defining
           dispositions
           ,
           must
           of
           necessity
           secure
           your
           raigne
           (
           which
           heaven
           long
           continue
           over
           us
           )
           from
           the
           disease
           of
           such
           pernicious
           Councellors
           ;
           it
           being
           impossible
           that
           your
           gracious
           disposition
           (
           though
           it
           may
           be
           deluded
           
             sub
             apparentia
             bo●●
             )
          
           with
           the
           Angel-like
           a
           pearance
           of
           these
           furies
           ,
           that
           it
           should
           againe
           be
           deceived
           by
           their
           devices
           ;
           so
           that
           if
           there
           have
           been
           any
           such
           Councellors
           that
           have
           formerly
           incensed
           your
           Majesty
           against
           your
           Parliament
           by
           mis-conceits
           and
           jealousies
           ,
           I
           doubt
           not
           now
           their
           advices
           are
           of
           no
           validity
           in
           your
           gracious
           judgement
           ;
           for
           mine
           owne
           part
           ,
           with
           the
           tender
           of
           my
           life
           to
           your
           Majesties
           service
           ,
           I
           prostrate
           my selfe
           in
           all
           humility
           at
           your
           Royall
           feet
           for
           your
           gracious
           favours
           towards
           me
           ,
           and
           crave
           pardon
           for
           my
           boldnesse
           ,
           which
           I
           am
           confident
           ,
           your
           Majesty
           will
           grant
           ,
           knowing
           it
           meerely
           ,
           to
           be
           progressive
           from
           my
           integrity
           and
           duty
           .
        
         
           FINIS
           .