A tract against vsurie. Presented to the High Court of Parliament. Culpeper, Thomas, Sir, 1578-1662. 1621 Approx. 25 KB of XML-encoded text transcribed from 11 1-bit group-IV TIFF page images. Text Creation Partnership, Ann Arbor, MI ; Oxford (UK) : 2003-11 (EEBO-TCP Phase 1). A19689 STC 6108 ESTC S109127 99844777 99844777 9619 This keyboarded and encoded edition of the work described above is co-owned by the institutions providing financial support to the Early English Books Online Text Creation Partnership. This Phase I text is available for reuse, according to the terms of Creative Commons 0 1.0 Universal . The text can be copied, modified, distributed and performed, even for commercial purposes, all without asking permission. Early English books, 1475-1640 ; 830:12. (EEBO-TCP ; phase 1, no. A19689) Transcribed from: (Early English Books Online ; image set 9619) Images scanned from microfilm: (Early English books, 1475-1640; 830:12). A tract against vsurie. 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TO leaue the proofes of the vnlawfulnesse of Vsurie to Diuines , wherein a number , as well Protestants as Papists haue learnedly written ; heere is onely set downe some arguments to shew how great the hurt is it doth to this kingdome which hath no gold nor siluer mines , but plenty of commodities , and many and great aduantages of trade to which the high rate of Vsury is a great preiudice and decay . For proofe , how much the high rate of Vsury decayes trade ; we see that generally all Merchants when they haue gotten any great wealth , leaue trading and fall to Vsury , the gaine thereof being so easie , certain , and great : whereas in other Countries , where Vsury is at a lower rate , and thereby lands deerer to purchase , they continue Merchants from generation to generation to enrich themselues and the State. Neyther are they rich trades-men onely that giue ouer trading , but a number of beginners are vndone or discouraged by the high rate of Vsury , their industry seruing but to inrich others , and begger themselues . Wee also see many trades themselues much decayed , because they will not afford so great a gaine as ten in the hundred ; whereas if the rate of Vsurie were not higher here then in other Countries , they had still subsisted and flourished , and perhaps with as much aduantage to the publique , as those that doe bring more to the priuate aduenturers . Yet are not those the greatest hinderances the high rate of money brings to trade ; our greatest disaduantage is , that other Nations , especially our industrious neighbours the Dutch , are therein wiser then we : for with them , and so in most Countries with whom we hold commerce , there is not any vse for money tolerated , aboue the rate of sixe in the hundred : Whereby it must of necessitie come to passe , though they haue no other aduantages of industry and frugality that they must out-trade vs ; for if they make returne of tenne per centum , they almost double the Vse allowed , and so make a very gainefull trade . But with vs , where ten in the hundred is so currant , it is otherwise ; for if we make not aboue ten , we are losers , and consequently the same trade beeing with them and vs equally good for the publique , is to the priuate aduenturers losse-full with vs , with them very gainefull . And where the good of the publique and priuate mens goe not together , the publique is seldome greatly aduanced . And as they out-trade , so they may afford to vnder-sell vs in the fruits of the earth , which are equally naturall to our and their Lands , as to our great shame wee see our neighbours the Dutch doe , euen in our owne Countrey : for in most commodities the earth brings forth , the stocke imployed in planting and managing of them , makes a great ( in many the greatest ) part of their price ; and consequently , their stocke with them being rated at sixe in the hundred , they may with great gaine vnder-sell vs , our stocke with vs being rated at ten . And as they may out-trade vs and vnder-sell vs , so are all contributions to the Warre , workes of Pietie , and glory of the State , cheaper to them then to vs : for the Vse for money going with vs neere double the rate it doth in other Countries , the giuing the same sum must needs be double the charge to vs , it is to them . Amongst other things which the King with so much wisdome deliuered to the House of Parliament , he committed to their consideration the ballancing of Trade and Commerce , wherein there is nothing of greater consequence , then the rate of Vsury , which holds no proportion with vs and other Nations , to our disaduantage , as by experience we see and feele . Neyther is the high rate of vsurie lesse hurtfull to Commerce within the land , the gaine by Vsurie being so easie , certaine , and extreame great , as they are not onely Marchants and Trades-men , but Landed-men , Farmers , and men of profession that grow lazie in their professions , and become Vsurers ; for the rate of Vsury is the measure by which all men trade , purchase , build , plant , or any other waies bargaine . It hath beene the wisedome and care of former Parliaments to prouide for the preseruation of Wood and Timber ; for which there is nothing more auaileable then the calling downe of the high rate of Vsury ; for as the rate of mony now goeth , no man can let his timber stand , nor his wood grow to such yeeres growth as is best for the Common-wealth , but it will be very lost-full to him : The stocke of the woods after they are worth forty or fifty shillings the Acre , growing faster at ten in the hundred then the woods themselues doe . And for shipping , which is the strength and safety of this land ; I haue heard diuers Marchants of good credit say , that if they would build a shippe , and let it to any other to imploy , they cannot make of their money that way , counting all charges , teare and weare , aboue tenne or twelue in the hundred , which can be no gainefull trade , money it selfe going at ten in the hundred . But in the Low-Countries , where money goeth at sixe , the building of ships , and hiring them to others in a gainefull Trade ; and so the stocke of rich men and the industry of beginners , are well ioyned for the publike . And yet that which is aboue all the rest , the greatest sinne against the Land is , that it makes the Land it selfe of small value , neerer the rate of new-found Lands , than of any other Countrie ▪ where Lawes , gouernement , and peace , haue so long flourished ; For the high rate of Vsury makes Land sell so cheape ; and the cheape sale of Land is the cause men seeke no more by industry and cost to improue them : and this is plaine both by example , and demonstration ; for we see in other Countries , where the vse of money is of a low rate , Lands are generally sold for 30. 40. in some for 50. yeeres purchase : And wee know by the rule of bargaining , that if the rate of Vse were not greater here , then in other Countries ; Lands were then as good a penniworth , at twenty yeeres purchase , as they are now at sixeteene : For Lands being the best assurance and securest inheritance , will still beare a rate aboue money : Now if Lands were at thirty yeeres purchase , or neere it , there were no so cheape purchase as the amendment of our owne Lands ; for it would be much cheaper to make one acre of Land , now worth fiue shillings by the yeere , to be worth ten shillings , or being worth ten to be worth twenty shillings : and so in proportion , then to purchase an other acre worth fiue or ten shillings . And in euery acre thus purchased to the owner , by the amendment of his owne , there were another purchased to the common-wealth . And it is the blessing of God to this Land , that there are few places of it to which he hath not giuen meanes by reasonable cost and industry , greatly to amend it , in many to double the value , so as in time , if for their owne good , mens industry were compelled that way , the riches and commodities of this Land would neere be doubled : Then would all the wet lands in this Kingdome soone be drained , the barren Lands mended by Marle , Sleech , Lime , Chalke , Sea-sand , and other meanes , which for their profit , mens industry would finde out . We see with how great industry and charge our neighbours , the Dutch , doe draine and maintaine their Lands against the sea which floweth higher aboue them , then it doth aboue the lowest parts of our drownd lands . I will admit a great deale to their industry , but I should very vnwillingly grant , that they are so much more ingenuous and industrious then wee , as that all the oddes were therein : Certainely , the maine cause of it is , that with vs money is deere , and land cheape , with them lands deere , and money cheape ; and consequently the improuement of their Lands at so great a charge with them , is gainefull to the owners , which with vs would be loss-full ; for Vsury going at ten in the hundred , if a man borrow fiue pounds , and bestow it on an Acre of ground , the amendment stands him in ten shillings the yeere ; and being amended , the land is not worth aboue fifteene yeeres purchase : But if the vse of money went at no more with vs , then in other places , then fiue pound bestowed vpon an Acre of ground , would stand a man but in fiue or sixe shillings a yeere , and the Acre of Land so amended , would be worth , as hath beene shewed , sixe and twenty or thirty yeeres purchase . Whereby it appeareth that as the rate of Vse now goeth , no man ( but where the Land lieth extraordinarily happily for it ) can amend his Land , but to his own losse ; whereas if money were let as it is in other Countries , he might bestow more then double so much as now hee may , and yet be a great gainer thereby ; and consequently , as was before remembred , should to his owne benefit purchase Land to the common-wealth . Neither would such purchase of land to the common-wealth , be the benefit to the landed men onely , the benefit would be as much to the poore labourers of the land ; For now when Come and other fruits of the land which grow by labour , are cheape , the plowe and mattocke are cast into the hedge , there is little worke for poore men , and that at a low rate , whereas if the mendment of their owne Lands were the cheapest purchase to the owner ; if there were many more people then there are , they should readily set a worke , at better rates then they now are , and none that had their health and lims could be poore , but by their extreamest lazinesse . And as the high rate of Vsury doth imbase Land , so it is as great a hindrance to discoueries , plantations , and all good vnder-takings , making it neere double as chargeable to the Aduenturers , ( mony being at ten in the hundred ) as it is in other Countries , where the Vse of money is so much lower . Now let vs see by the contrary , and conceiue if Vsury were tolerated at fifteene or twenty in the hundred ( and I feare many borrowers , all things considered , pay aboue ten ) what the condition of things would then be , and if it appeare how desperate the hurt would be which that would bring ; it may ( at least vpon good reason ) perswade vs how great the good would be of calling it downe . Certainely , it must of necessity come to passe , that all Trades would in a short time decay ; For few or none ( and reckon the hazard at nothing , yeelde so great againe , as twenty in the hundred ) & all other Nations might with so great gaine out-trade and vnder-sel vs that more then the earth would of her selfe bring forth , we should scarce raise any thing from it , euen for our owne vse within the Land ; and Land would be so much imbased , as men might affoord , without losse to themselues , to carry the composte out of their closes , vpon their next adioyning lands to mend them : so far should we be from marling , liming , draining , planting , & any other workes of cost or industry , by which , Lands are purchased to the Common-wealth . So farre from Building , making of Hauens , Discoueries , new Plantations , or any other actions of vertue and glory to the State ; for priuate gaine is the compasse men generally saile by : And since we cannot without extraordinary diligence Plant , Build , Draine , or any other way amend our Lands but it will be deerer to vs , then the purchase of others , money being at ten in the hundred ; if mony then should goe at twenty in the 100. the charge of mending our Land would be doubled , and the Land abased to seuen or eight yeres purchase ; and consequently all workes of industry and charge , for improuing of Lands would be quite neglected and giuen ouer : wee should onely care vpon one another with Vsury , haue our commodities from other Nations , let the Land grow barren and vnmanured , and the whole State in short time , come to beggery . Against this ( perhaps ) may be obiected , that before the 37. of H 8. there was no limitation of Vsury , and how did we then ? To this , may bee answered , that in those times there was a stricter band in that point vpon mens consciences ; So far forth as Vsurers were in the same case as excommunicate persons , they could make no wills , nor were allowed Christian buriall . Th●refore let vs for our forefathers sake , hope , that the rye vpon their consciences then , was a greater restraint of Vsury then the Statute of ten in the hundred is now ; I fear fornication is too frequent among vs , yet thanks bee to God not so much vsed as where there is allowance of Curtizans and Stewes . The obiections likely to bee made against the calling downe of money , are first , that generall obiection of ignorance against all changes , bee they neuer so necessary and apparantly good , that it hath beene so a long time , and beene well enough ; what will become of the alteration , wee cannot tell , why then should wee make any change ? Secondly , that as in bodies naturall , so in politicke , great and suddaine changes are most commonly dangerous . Thirdly , that money wil be suddenly called in , and so all borrowers greatly preiudiced . Fourthly , that money will bee harder to come by , and thereby commerce greatly hindred . Lastly , that much money of forreiners , by reason of the high rate of Vsury , is brought ouer here to bee managed at interest , which would be carried away againe , if the rate of Vsury should bee called downe . To the first , that money hath long gone at ten , and things bin well enough . It is answered , that it is not long that the practise of Vsury hath beene so generally vsed , without any sence or scruple of the vnlawfulnesse of it : for mens consciences were hardned to it , with example and custome , by degrees , and not vpon the suddaine . And as the beginning of many dangerous diseases in healthfull bodies , so the beginning of many incōueniences in a State , are not presently felt . With vs , after that with long ciuill warres the Land was halfe vnpeopled , so as till of late yeeres , it came not to his full stocke of people againe , there being the same quantity of Land to halfe the number of people , the surplusage of our in land commodities must needs be so great , that though trade were not equally ballanced with Vs and other Nations , we could not but grow rich : Beside , France & the Low Countries were for many yeeres halfe laid waste with warres , and so did trade but little , nor manage their owne Lands to their best aduantage , whereby they did not onely not take the trade and market from vs , which now they doe , but they themselues were fed and cloathed by vs , and tooke our commodities from vs at great high rates : Whereas now wee see the Dutch doe euery where out-trade vs , & the French feede vs with their corne , euen in plentifull yeeres ; So as now our Land being full stocked with people , our neighbours industrious and subtle in trade , if we do not more equally ballance trade and bring to passe , that we may afford the fruits of our land as cheape as other Countries affoord the same of the same kinde ; we must ( though we leaue a number of our superfluities ) as ( God forbid but wee should ) in a short time grow poore and beggerly . And in this condition tenne in the hundred in a little more time will as well serue to doe it , as if mony were at twenty : For ( as was before remembred ) in most of the commodities the earth bringeth forth , the stocke imployed in planting and managing of them , makes a great part of their price , and consequently they make with great gaine to themselues , vnder-sell vs , our stocke with vs going at double the rate that theirs goes with them . And this wee see and feele too well by experience at this present ; for hauing a great surplisage of corne , we can finde no vent for it ; the French with their owne , the Dutch with the corne of Poland , euery where supplying the markets at cheaper rates then wee can afford it : and euen our Cloathes which haue hitherto beene the golden Mine in England , I haue heard many Marchants say , that ( except it be in some few of the finest sort of them , which is a riches peculiar to this Nation ) other Countries begin to make them of their owne wooll , and by affording them cheaper then wee may , so to take our markets from vs. And this I hope may in part serue for answere to the next obiection ; that all great and sudden changes are commonly dangerous ; for that rule holds true , where the body naturall or politicke is in perfect state of health , but where there is a declining ( as I haue some cause to feare there is or may soone be with vs ) there to make no alteration is a certaine way to ruine . To the third : That money will be suddenly ●alled in , and so all borrowers greatly preiudiced ; for that there may be a clause in the end of the Statute whensoeuer it shall be made : That it shall be lawfull for all that haue lent money at ten in the hundred , which is now forborne , and owing , to take for such money so lent and owing , during two yeeres after this Session of Parliament , such Vse as they might haue done if this Acte had not beene made : Whereby borrowers shall be in lesse danger of sudden calling in of their money then now they are ; for where the lenders vpon continuance of their olde securitie , may take tenne in the hundred ; vpon new securitie they must be content with lesse , so the calling in of their money will be to their owne preiudice . And if there be any borrower to whom this giueth not sufficient satisfaction , if such borrower haue Lands of value to pay his debt , the worst condition hee can feare , is to haue at the least twenty yeeres purchase for his land , wherewith to cleere his debts ; for as I said before , land being the best securitie , and securest inheritance , will still beare a rate aboue money . And so there being no Vse allowed for money aboue the rate tolerated in other Countries , Land will as readily sell at twenty yeeres purchase , as it doth now at twelue . And I thinke there is no borrower that hath Land of valew to pay his debts , doth doubt if he will now sell his Land at ten yeers purchase , he might soone be out of debt . To the fourth Obiection , that money will bee hard to be borrowed , and so commerce hindred : I answer , that it were true , if the high rate of Vsurie did increase money within this Land ; but the high rate of Vsury doth inrich onely the Vsurer , and impouerish the Kingdome , as hath beene shewed ; and it is the plenty of money within the Land that maketh money easie to bee borrowed , as wee see by the examples of other Countries , where money is easier to bee borrowed then it is with vs , and yet the rate tollerated ; for Vse is little more then halfe so much . It is the high rate of Vse that vndoeth so many of the Gentry of the Land , which maketh the number of borrowers so great , and the number of borrowers must of necessity make money the harder to bee borrowed , whereas if Vse for money were at a lower rate , Land as hath been shewed , would be much quicker to bee sould , and at deerer rates , and so the Nobility and Gentry would soone be out of debt , and consequently the fewer borrowers , and so to Trades-men and Marchants money easie to bee had . Further , let vs consider if money were called downe , what Vsurers would do with their mony ; they would not I suppose long be sullen , & keepe it a dead stocke by them ; for that were not so much as the safest way of keeping it : they must then eyther imploy it in trade , purchase land , or lend for Vse at such rate as the Law will tolerate , if it quicken trade , that is the thing to bee desired ; for that will inrich the Kingdome , and so make money plentifull . And yet need not any borrower feare that money will so bee imployed in trade , as that there will not be sufficient of money to purchase Land , where the purchaser may haue as much , or neere so much rent by the purchase of Land , as he can by putting his money to Vse : For a great number of Gentlemen and other in the Countrie , know not how to imploy any stocke in Trade , but with great vncertainty , and lesse satisfaction to themselues , then the letting of their money at a lower rate , or purchasing Land at twenty yeeres purchase or vpwards . No doubt for the present there would be great buying and selling of Land , till men had cleered themselues , and payed their debts : But in short time Land , as it is shewed before , would sell at so deere a rate , as money let at a lower rate of Vse , would bring in proportion as great a rate aboue the rent that would be made then by the purchase of Land , as the rate of money now is aboue the rent of Land , purchased at fourteene or fifteene yeeres purchase , and so by consequence money would then as easily bee borrowed as it is now , and so much easier , as it would bee more plentifull , and fewer borrowers . To the last and weakest of Obiections ; That there is now much money of Forreiners in the Land to be managed at tenne in the hundred , which if money should be called downe , would be carried out of the Land ; there is no doubt it is true : But I desire to know , whether any man thinke it better for the State , that they should now carry out one hundred pounds , or seauen yeeres hence , two ; or foureteene yeeres hence , foure ▪ or one and twenty yeeres hence eight : for so in effect vpon the multiplying of interest , they doe . It will seeme incredible to such as haue not considered it , but to any that will but cast it vp , it is plainely manifest ; that a hundred pounds managed at ten in the hundred , in seauenty yeeres multiplies it selfe to a hundred thousand pounds . So if there should bee an hundred thousand pounds of forreiners money now managed here at tenne in the hundred , ( and that doth seeme no great matter ) that an hundred thousand pound in threescore and ten yeeres , which is but the age of a man , would carry out ten millions , which I beleeue is more then all the coyne at this present in the Land. I know we cannot conceiue how any such summe should be managed at interest , yet this is sufficient to make vs little to ioy in Forreiners money . Besides , wee must not conceiue that the money of Forreiners , which is here managed at Vsury , is brought into the Land in readie coine or Bullion : the course is , that Marchants send ouer Bils of exchange to their Factors , for which they receiue our money here ; and this is the money they mannage at interest , and so they eate vs out with our owne monies . The old comparison , which compares Vsury to the Butlers Boxe , deserues to be remembred ; Whilest men are at play , they feele not what they giue to the Boxe , but at the end of Christmas it makes all or neere all Gamesters loosers : and I feare the comparison holds thus much farther , that there is as few escape , that continue in Vsury , as that continue Gamesters , a man may play once or twice and leaue a winner , but the Vse of it is seldome without ruine . Now because I know mens priuate interests doth many times blinde their iudgements , and least any may be tempted for their owne , against the publique good , I will desire them to remember , that if they haue Lands as well as money , that what they loose in their money they shall get it in their Land ; for Land and money are euer in ballance one against the other , and where money is deere , Land is cheape ; and where money is cheape , Land is deere . And if there be any yet so harty a well-wisher to tenne in the hundred , as that hee still thinke it fit to be continued , my wish is ; that hee and his posteritie may haue the priuiledge to borrow , but not to lend at that rate . In the beginning of this Treatise , I did disclaime the proofes of the vnlawfulnesse of Vsury , leauing them to Diuines , this one onely ( rising from the premises ) which may serue for all , I thinke fit to set downe . It is agreed by all the Diuines that euer were , without exception of any , yea and by the Vsurers themselues , that biting Vsury is vnlawfull : Now since it hath beene prooued that tenne in the hundred doth bite the Landed men , doth bite the Poore , doth bite Trade , doth bite the King in his Customes , doth bite the Fruites of the Land , and most of all , the Land it selfe ; doth bite all workes of Pietie , of Vertue , and glory to the State ; no man can deny but ten in the hundred is absolutely vnlawfull , howsoeuer happily a lesser rate may be otherwise . To the King increase of his Customes . To the Kingdome increase of Land , by inriching of this . To the Nobility and Gentry deliuerance from bondage and debt . To Marchants continuance and flourishing in their Trades . To yong beginners in Trade and Commerse , the fruits of their owne labours . To Laborers quicke imployment . To Vsurers Land for their Money . FINIS .