A contention for truth: in two several publique disputations. Before thousands of people, at Clement Dane Church, without Temple Barre: upon the 19 of Nevemb. [sic] last: and upon the 26 of the same moneth. Betweene Mr Gunning of the one part, and Mr Denne on the other. Concerning the baptisme of infants; whether lawful, or unlawful.
         Gunning, Peter, 1614-1684.
      
       
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             A contention for truth: in two several publique disputations. Before thousands of people, at Clement Dane Church, without Temple Barre: upon the 19 of Nevemb. [sic] last: and upon the 26 of the same moneth. Betweene Mr Gunning of the one part, and Mr Denne on the other. Concerning the baptisme of infants; whether lawful, or unlawful.
             Gunning, Peter, 1614-1684.
             Denne, Henry, 1606 or 7-1660?
          
           [6], 46 p.
           
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             1658.
          
           
             Running title reads: Whether infant baptisme be lawfull, or unlawfull.
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           A
           Contention
           for
           TRUTH
           :
           In
           Two
           Several
           Publique
           DISPUTATIONS
           .
           Before
           thousands
           of
           People
           ,
           at
           
             Clement
             Dane
          
           Church
           ,
           without
           
             Temple
             Barre
             :
          
           upon
           the
           19
           of
           
             Nevemb
             .
          
           last
           :
           and
           upon
           the
           26
           of
           the
           same
           Moneth
           .
        
         
           Betweene
           Mr
           
             Gunning
          
           of
           the
           one
           part
           ,
           and
           Mr
           
             Denne
          
           on
           the
           other
           .
        
         
           Concerning
           the
           Baptisme
           of
           INFANTS
           ;
           Whether
           
             LAWFVL
             ,
          
           or
           
             VNLAWFVL
             .
          
        
         
           
             The
             Inspiration
             of
             the
             Almighty
             ,
             giveth
             Vnderstanding
             .
             Great
             men
             are
             not
             alwayes
             wise
             ;
             neither
             do
             the
             aged
             understand
             Judgement
             .
          
           
             Job
             .
             32.
             8
             ,
             9.
             
          
        
         
           
             LONDON
             .
          
           Printed
           by
           
             J.
             Moxon
             ,
          
           for
           
             Francis
             Smith
             ,
          
           and
           are
           to
           be
           sold
           at
           his
           Shop
           ,
           in
           
             Flying
             Horse
             Court
          
           in
           
             Fleet-street
             ,
          
           neer
           
             Chancery
             Lane
          
           end
           .
           And
           by
           
             John
             Sweeting
             ,
          
           at
           the
           signe
           of
           the
           
             Angel
             .
          
           in
           
             Popes
             head
          
           Alley
           .
           1658.
           
        
      
       
       
       
         
           To
           the
           Reader
           .
        
         
           IS
           there
           no
           end
           of
           writing
           Books
           ?
           Have
           not
           our
           Ears
           been
           filled
           ,
           and
           our
           Eyes
           wearied
           with
           Hearing
           and
           Reading
           ,
           touching
           this
           subject
           ,
           Both
           
             Pro
          
           and
           
             Contra
             ?
          
           Are
           not
           the
           later
           writers
           in
           behalfe
           of
           Infants
           Baptisme
           ,
           very
           many
           ,
           
             viz.
             Cardinal
             Bellarmine
             ,
          
           and
           a
           great
           number
           of
           the
           sons
           of
           the
           Church
           of
           
             Rome
             :
          
           who
           have
           in
           this
           point
           ,
           dealt
           as
           ingeniously
           ,
           as
           pithily
           ,
           as
           ever
           any
           that
           took
           up
           the
           defence
           of
           it
           could
           do
           ?
           Have
           we
           not
           often
           heard
           of
           it
           from
           the
           pens
           of
           the
           reformers
           ;
           in
           the
           infancy
           of
           their
           reformation
           ?
           
             viz.
             Luther
             ,
             Melancthon
             ,
             Calvin
             :
          
           with
           a
           great
           number
           of
           late
           Doctors
           and
           Masters
           :
           
             viz.
             Featly
             ,
             Marshall
             ,
             Goodwin
             ,
             Fuller
             ,
             Baxter
             ,
             Audley
             ,
          
           with
           others
           ?
        
         
           Have
           we
           not
           had
           also
           many
           who
           have
           laboured
           not
           a
           little
           on
           the
           opposite
           party
           ?
           And
           both
           by
           their
           pens
           and
           suffrings
           testified
           against
           the
           Baptisme
           of
           Infants
           :
           as
           
             Morton
             ,
          
           with
           some
           others
           contemporary
           ;
           the
           Ministers
           of
           
             Transylvania
             :
          
           and
           since
           of
           later
           years
           ,
           
             Blackwell
             ,
             Tombes
             ,
             Cornwall
             ,
             Fisher
             ,
             Lamb
          
           Senior
           ,
           
             Lamb
             ,
          
           Junior
           ,
           
             Writer
             ,
             Haggar
             ,
          
           with
           many
           others
           ,
           
           who
           will
           not
           be
           offended
           because
           they
           are
           not
           named
           ?
           Have
           the
           Protestants
           of
           late
           said
           any
           thing
           more
           then
           the
           Papists
           before
           them
           ?
           Or
           will
           this
           Book
           tell
           us
           one
           thing
           more
           then
           either
           
             Protestant
          
           or
           
             Papist
             ,
          
           hath
           not
           formerly
           Declared
           ?
        
         
           On
           the
           other
           hand
           ,
           what
           can
           be
           said
           more
           effectually
           to
           prove
           the
           Baptisme
           of
           Infants
           to
           bear
           an
           humane
           stamp
           ,
           and
           superscription
           ,
           and
           not
           Divine
           ,
           then
           hath
           been
           said
           over
           ,
           and
           again
           ?
           What
           need
           then
           of
           this
           Book
           ?
        
         
           Patience
           good
           Reader
           ,
           and
           know
           it
           is
           neither
           any
           conceit
           of
           the
           impotency
           of
           those
           that
           have
           written
           before
           ,
           or
           of
           the
           excellency
           of
           any
           thing
           herein
           contained
           ,
           above
           what
           hath
           been
           before
           written
           ;
           that
           hath
           occasioned
           me
           to
           shew
           this
           to
           the
           world
           :
           but
           that
           the
           importunity
           of
           friends
           might
           be
           satisfied
           ,
           and
           the
           mouths
           of
           lying
           adversaries
           might
           be
           stopped
           ,
           that
           they
           may
           be
           shamed
           out
           of
           those
           slanderous
           reports
           ,
           whereof
           they
           have
           been
           coyners
           .
           Thou
           hast
           here
           the
           relation
           of
           the
           discourses
           that
           passed
           between
           
             Mr.
             Gunning
             ,
          
           and
           my self
           .
           I
           cannot
           warrant
           it
           in
           every
           tittle
           perfect
           ,
           but
           as
           fully
           ,
           impartially
           ,
           as
           
             I
          
           am
           able
           to
           give
           thee
           :
           This
           
             I
          
           will
           affirm
           ,
           that
           willingly
           
             I
          
           have
           omitted
           nothing
           ,
           that
           might
           conduce
           
           to
           the
           making
           his
           arguments
           ,
           or
           answers
           seem
           valid
           .
           Indeed
           
             I
          
           did
           wish
           ,
           
             I
          
           could
           have
           shewed
           thee
           this
           discourse
           in
           a
           more
           perfect
           form
           then
           it
           is
           ;
           and
           
             I
          
           did
           wish
           it
           heartily
           :
           and
           for
           the
           same
           purpose
           
             I
          
           did
           write
           unto
           
             Mr.
             
             Gunning
             ,
          
           declaring
           mine
           intentions
           to
           send
           my
           papers
           to
           the
           Press
           ;
           and
           intreating
           his
           favour
           to
           come
           to
           my
           house
           (
           in
           regard
           
             I
          
           was
           not
           able
           to
           stir
           abroad
           )
           and
           to
           put
           to
           his
           file
           :
           if
           any
           thing
           were
           omitted
           ,
           it
           should
           be
           inserted
           :
           if
           any
           thing
           were
           inserted
           ,
           that
           was
           not
           spoken
           ,
           it
           should
           be
           expunged
           :
           declaring
           also
           that
           
             I
          
           would
           wait
           for
           him
           four
           or
           five
           daies
           .
           
             I
          
           did
           wait
           twelve
           daies
           ;
           and
           at
           last
           
             I
          
           received
           from
           him
           (
           not
           by
           writing
           ,
           but
           by
           word
           )
           That
           he
           could
           not
           come
           ;
           if
           
             I
          
           pleased
           ,
           
             I
          
           might
           proceed
           :
           and
           if
           
             I
          
           did
           any
           injury
           to
           him
           ,
           hee
           would
           let
           the
           world
           know
           of
           it
           .
           Thus
           when
           
             I
          
           could
           not
           do
           as
           
             I
          
           would
           ,
           
             I
          
           was
           forced
           to
           do
           what
           
             I
          
           was
           able
           to
           do
           .
           
             I
          
           have
           here
           propounded
           to
           thy
           consideration
           ,
           the
           matter
           as
           well
           as
           
             I
          
           can
           .
           Read
           ,
           and
           in
           the
           presence
           of
           the
           Lord
           ,
           (
           setting
           prejudice
           aside
           )
           consider
           what
           
             Mr.
             
             Gunning
          
           hath
           produced
           that
           is
           of
           greater
           weight
           then
           those
           arguments
           Men
           have
           formerly
           written
           :
           
             I
          
           leave
           thee
           to
           the
           perusall
           of
           the
           Book
           ;
           at
           the
           latter
           end
           whereof
           ,
           thou
           hast
           an
           account
           of
           some
           arguments
           that
           
             I
          
           had
           intended
           for
           to
           have
           
           urged
           at
           that
           time
           .
           Consider
           them
           also
           with
           the
           rest
           ,
           and
           let
           the
           Readers
           (
           that
           can
           )
           pray
           unto
           the
           God
           of
           peace
           ,
           that
           hee
           would
           cause
           the
           Sun
           of
           Righteousness
           to
           arise
           ;
           That
           divisions
           may
           cease
           :
           and
           all
           that
           fear
           the
           Lord
           may
           be
           of
           one
           lipp
           ,
           and
           of
           one
           heart
           serving
           the
           Lord
           in
           Godly
           Simplicity
           ,
           and
           Sincerity
           .
        
         
           AMEN
           .
        
      
    
     
       
       
         
           A
           Conference
           between
           
             A
          
           and
           
             B
          
           :
           Wherein
           is
           Contained
           an
           Impartiall
           Relation
           of
           a
           Disputation
           holden
           at
           
             Clement
             Danes
             ,
          
           two
           several
           dayes
           .
           
             viz.
          
           on
           the
           19th
           day
           of
           November
           ,
           and
           on
           the
           26th
           day
           of
           the
           same
           Moneth
           :
           between
           
             Mr.
             Gunning
             ,
          
           and
           
             Mr.
             Denne
             .
          
           Concerning
           the
           
             Lawfulness
          
           or
           
             Unlawfulness
             of
             Children
             Baptisme
             .
          
        
         
           
             A
             
          
           
             MY
             dear
             friend
             ,
             I
             rejoyce
             very
             heartily
             to
             see
             you
             in
             health
             ,
             and
             to
             enjoy
             your
             society
             this
             day
             :
             And
             so
             much
             the
             more
             ,
             because
             I
             have
             heard
             that
             you
             were
             present
             at
             a
             dispute
             ,
             two
             several
             dayes
             at
             
               Clement
               Danes
               ,
            
             concerning
             the
             
               Baptisme
               of
               Infants
               ;
            
             whether
             it
             be
             to
             be
             accounted
             
               Lawful
               ,
            
             or
             
               Unlawful
               .
            
             Concerning
             which
             dispute
             I
             have
             heard
             Reports
             so
             different
             ,
             that
             I
             find
             it
             a
             matter
             of
             difficulty
             to
             find
             a
             ground
             for
             Credence
             ;
             I
             desire
             your
             gentleness
             not
             to
             deny
             my
             request
             ,
             but
             to
             grant
             me
             so
             much
             favour
             as
             to
             make
             me
             partakers
             of
             your
             apprehensions
             of
             the
             whole
             matter
             .
             That
             by
             your
             impartiall
             Relation
             of
             the
             transactions
             of
             both
             dayes
             ,
             I
             may
             find
             some
             good
             assurance
             of
             confidence
             .
          
        
         
         
           
             B
             
          
           
             It
             is
             no
             wonder
             that
             you
             should
             hear
             various
             and
             uncertain
             reports
             ,
             both
             of
             this
             ,
             or
             other
             disputes
             of
             like
             sort
             :
             Seeing
             that
             unto
             such
             like
             meetings
             as
             these
             are
             ,
             The
             greatest
             part
             Come
             with
             prejudice
             upon
             their
             spirits
             ,
             Judging
             before
             they
             have
             heard
             ,
             and
             determining
             the
             whole
             matter
             before
             it
             begin
             .
             Some
             bringing
             with
             them
             hearts
             fraught
             with
             envy
             ,
             anger
             ,
             and
             malice
             :
             insomuch
             that
             if
             they
             
               Could
               ,
            
             they
             
               Would
               not
               ,
            
             and
             if
             they
             
               Would
            
             they
             
               Could
               not
               ,
            
             sincerely
             discern
             the
             truth
             of
             matters
             propounded
             .
             If
             it
             may
             prove
             a
             thing
             acceptable
             in
             your
             eys
             ;
             I
             will
             not
             refuse
             to
             relate
             unto
             you
             the
             sum
             of
             the
             matter
             :
             so
             far
             as
             my
             memory
             can
             comprehend
             :
             I
             shall
             not
             willingly
             omit
             any
             thing
             material
             .
             As
             for
             words
             which
             might
             well
             have
             been
             spared
             on
             both
             sides
             ,
             I
             shall
             take
             no
             notice
             of
             them
             at
             all
             .
          
        
         
           
             A
             
          
           
             I
             pray
             begin
             ,
             and
             I
             shall
             Lend
             an
             attentive
             ear
             .
          
        
         
           
             B
             
          
           
             I
             will
             first
             declare
             unto
             you
             the
             
               Occasion
            
             of
             this
             dispute
             ,
             which
             was
             this
             :
             A
             gentlewoman
             ,
             who
             had
             (
             through
             mercy
             )
             set
             her
             heart
             seriously
             to
             seek
             the
             Lord
             and
             his
             face
             ,
             with
             resolution
             to
             walk
             in
             his
             wayes
             ,
             was
             not
             a
             little
             troubled
             in
             spirit
             about
             the
             many
             differences
             in
             and
             about
             Worship
             ,
             amongst
             those
             that
             profess
             the
             name
             of
             the
             Lord
             :
             Shee
             looked
             upon
             her
             former
             wayes
             as
             evill
             ,
             and
             to
             be
             forsaken
             ;
             but
             what
             to
             embrace
             shee
             knows
             not
             ;
             Forasmuch
             as
             so
             soon
             as
             shee
             had
             passed
             through
             the
             Doctrine
             
               Of
               Repentance
               from
               dead
               works
               ,
               and
               faith
               towards
               God
            
             (
             in
             which
             the
             present
             differences
             of
             the
             Men
             of
             these
             times
             have
             created
             no
             smal
             difficulties
             )
             Shee
             meets
             with
             a
             great
             controversie
             
             about
             the
             
               Doctrine
               of
               Baptisme
               ,
            
             which
             drives
             her
             into
             a
             strait
             ;
             and
             shee
             remains
             divided
             in
             her
             thoughts
             ;
             not
             being
             able
             to
             resolve
             her self
             ,
             whether
             her
             Infant
             Baptisme
             were
             of
             God
             ,
             or
             whether
             it
             were
             contrary
             to
             truth
             ,
             being
             none
             other
             but
             tradition
             of
             Men
             ,
             a
             will
             worship
             ,
             and
             by
             consequence
             vain
             and
             unprofitable
             .
             While
             thus
             shee
             remains
             uncertain
             ,
             not
             knowing
             to
             which
             part
             to
             adhere
             whether
             to
             those
             who
             professing
             the
             faith
             of
             the
             Lord
             Jesus
             do
             maintain
             and
             uphold
             the
             
               Baptisme
               of
               Infants
               ,
            
             or
             whether
             it
             were
             not
             her
             duty
             to
             repair
             to
             a
             Baptised
             Congregation
             ,
             to
             require
             
               Baptisme
            
             at
             their
             hands
             .
             If
             shee
             make
             her
             addresses
             to
             Counsellours
             ,
             one
             sayeth
             thus
             :
             Fear
             not
             your
             Baptisme
             is
             good
             and
             valid
             .
             Another
             tels
             her
             that
             her
             
               Infant
               ,
               Baptisme
            
             is
             not
             of
             God
             :
             Both
             these
             use
             Arguments
             ,
             and
             Demonstrations
             and
             Reasons
             ,
             which
             captivate
             her
             understanding
             ,
             that
             shee
             discerns
             not
             in
             her self
             ,
             what
             to
             imbrace
             ,
             or
             what
             to
             eschew
             :
             And
             finding
             at
             present
             no
             way
             to
             deliver
             her self
             from
             this
             condition
             ,
             is
             very
             desirous
             a
             Conference
             may
             be
             had
             between
             Parties
             on
             both
             sides
             ,
             about
             this
             matter
             ;
             To
             the
             end
             that
             what
             shee
             could
             not
             be
             throughly
             perswaded
             of
             in
             her
             mind
             when
             shee
             heard
             them
             speaking
             asunder
             ,
             might
             (
             through
             grace
             )
             be
             happily
             obtained
             by
             hearing
             them
             speak
             friendly
             Together
             .
             This
             was
             the
             occasion
             of
             the
             meeting
             :
             And
             
               Mr.
               
               Gunning
            
             (
             whether
             solicited
             by
             
               Intreaty
            
             of
             others
             ,
             or
             moved
             
               Voluntarily
               ,
            
             I
             know
             not
             certainly
             )
             was
             pleased
             to
             take
             the
             business
             upon
             himself
             ,
             on
             the
             one
             part
             ,
             to
             defend
             the
             
               Lawfullness
               
               of
               Infants
               Baptisme
               ;
            
             And
             
               Mr.
               Denne
            
             on
             the
             other
             part
             ,
             yeelded
             himself
             to
             oppugn
             the
             
               Baptisme
               of
               Infants
               .
            
          
           
             Two
             dayes
             were
             appoynted
             for
             this
             conference
             :
             The
             first
             day
             was
             on
             the
             19th
             of
             
               November
            
             last
             ,
             when
             they
             met
             at
             the
             place
             before
             appoynted
             :
             And
             
               Mr.
               Denne
            
             whose
             part
             it
             was
             that
             day
             to
             be
             the
             
               Respondent
               ,
            
             stood
             up
             in
             the
             Pulpit
             ,
             and
             intreating
             the
             multitude
             to
             be
             silent
             ,
             and
             to
             behave
             themselves
             civilly
             ,
             and
             orderly
             ,
             and
             craving
             attention
             he
             spake
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             One
             there
             is
             who
             desireth
             to
             be
             informed
             whether
             the
             Baptisme
             of
             Infants
             be
             Lawfull
             ,
             or
             Unlawfull
             :
             
               I
               declare
               that
               the
               Baptisme
               of
               Infants
               is
               Vnlawfull
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             B
             
          
           
             After
             him
             stood
             up
             
               Mr.
               
               Gunning
               ,
            
             in
             an
             opposite
             gallery
             ,
             and
             spake
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             I
             will
             prove
             the
             Baptisme
             of
             Infants
             to
             be
             Lawfull
             ;
             
               thus
               ,
            
          
           
             
               That
               which
               the
               supream
               Lawgiver
               of
               the
               Church
               hath
               given
               in
               command
               to
               his
               immediate
               Officers
               in
               the
               Church
               ,
               by
               a
               perpetual
               sanction
               ,
               and
               unalterable
               decree
               ,
               to
               be
               by
               them
               practised
               ,
               is
            
             Lawfull
             :
             
               But
               the
            
             Baptisme
             of
             Infantsis
             
               by
               the
               supream
               Lawgiver
               of
               the
               Church
               given
               in
               Command
               to
               his
               immediate
               Officers
               ,
               by
               a
               perpetual
               sanction
               ,
               and
               unalterable
               decree
               ,
               to
               be
               by
               them
               and
               their
               Successors
               practised
               :
               Therefore
               the
            
             Baptisme
             of
             Infants
             is
             Lawfull
             .
          
        
         
           
             A
             
          
           
             This
             is
             a
             very
             long
             
               Syllogisme
               :
            
             I
             wonder
             a
             learned
             Man
             should
             use
             so
             many
             words
             ,
             which
             must
             needs
             procure
             more
             disadvantage
             then
             advantage
             ;
             for
             most
             times
             in
             multitude
             of
             words
             there
             is
             error
             .
          
        
         
           
             B
             
          
           
             Indeed
             many
             of
             his
             
               Syllogismes
            
             were
             long
             ,
             and
             Shard
             to
             be
             repeated
             :
             Therefore
             I
             cannot
             promise
             to
             rehearse
             them
             
               Verbatim
               ,
            
             only
             I
             will
             not
             willingly
             leave
             out
             any
             word
             which
             is
             
               Materiall
               ,
            
             or
             may
             be
             for
             the
             Opponents
             advantage
             .
          
        
         
         
           
             A
             
          
           
             I
             think
             the
             sum
             of
             this
             may
             be
             gathered
             into
             fewer
             words
             ,
             thus
             :
             That
             which
             Christ
             hath
             commanded
             to
             be
             practised
             is
             Lawfull
             :
             But
             Christ
             hath
             commanded
             
               Baptisme
               of
               Infants
            
             to
             be
             practised
             ,
             Therefore
             
               Baptisme
               of
               Infants
               is
               Lawfull
               :
            
             But
             let
             me
             hear
             the
             answer
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             I
             deny
             the
             minor
             ,
             and
             do
             say
             ,
             
               Christ
            
             never
             Commanded
             Baptisme
             of
             Infants
             to
             be
             practised
             ,
             either
             by
             his
             immediate
             Officers
             ,
             or
             any
             other
             of
             their
             Successors
             .
          
        
         
           
             Opp.
             
          
           
             I
             will
             prove
             that
             it
             is
             the
             will
             and
             command
             of
             the
             supream
             Lawgiver
             that
             Infants
             should
             be
             Baptised
             .
             If
             the
             supream
             Lawgiver
             would
             have
             
               Infants
               to
               be
               saved
               ,
            
             and
             they
             cannot
             be
             saved
             without
             
               Baptisme
            
             (
             or
             desire
             of
             
               Baptisme
            
             in
             Parents
             or
             friends
             ,
             )
             then
             is
             it
             his
             will
             and
             command
             that
             they
             should
             be
             Baptised
             :
             But
             the
             supream
             Lawgiver
             would
             have
             Infants
             to
             be
             
               saved
               ,
            
             and
             they
             cannot
             be
             
               saved
            
             without
             
               Baptisme
               .
            
             Therefore
             it
             is
             his
             will
             that
             they
             should
             be
             
               Baptised
               :
            
             for
             he
             that
             willeth
             the
             end
             ,
             willeth
             also
             the
             means
             conducing
             to
             that
             end
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             The
             minor
             I
             answer
             in
             the
             first
             place
             ,
             freely
             granting
             that
             it
             is
             the
             will
             of
             
               Jesus
            
             Christ
             that
             Infants
             should
             be
             saved
             :
             But
             saying
             that
             Infants
             may
             be
             saved
             without
             Baptisme
             ,
             or
             without
             desire
             of
             Baptisme
             in
             their
             Parents
             ,
             or
             any
             other
             for
             them
             .
          
        
         
           
             A
             
          
           
             Doe
             you
             think
             that
             the
             Opponent
             speaketh
             his
             own
             thoughts
             ?
             Or
             doth
             he
             speak
             it
             for
             disputation
             sake
             ,
             when
             he
             sayth
             
               Children
               cannot
               be
               saved
               without
               Batisme
               ?
            
          
        
         
           
             B
             
          
           
             Questionless
             he
             speaketh
             his
             own
             thoughts
             ,
             even
             as
             he
             is
             perswaded
             in
             heart
             ,
             that
             
               no
               Infant
               can
               be
               saved
               without
               Baptisme
               ,
               or
               desire
            
             (
             at
             least
             )
             of
             the
             Parents
             or
             Friends
             to
             have
             the
             Child
             Baptised
             .
             But
             hear
             his
             proof
             whereby
             he
             proves
             Infants
             cannot
             be
             saved
             without
             Baptisme
             ,
             or
             desire
             of
             Baptisme
             .
          
        
         
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             John
             .
             3.
             5th
             .
             
               Verily
               ,
               Verily
               I
               say
               unto
               thee
               ,
               Except
               any
               one
               be
               born
               again
               of
               Water
               and
               of
               the
               Spirit
               ▪
               he
               cannot
               enter
               into
               the
               kingdome
               of
               God
               .
            
             These
             are
             Christ
             words
             to
             
               Nicodemus
            
             a
             Ruler
             of
             the
             Jews
             ,
             who
             came
             to
             Christ
             to
             enquire
             of
             the
             way
             of
             God
             :
             And
             they
             are
             confirmed
             with
             an
             oath
             doubled
             ,
             
               Except
               any
               one
               :
            
             that
             is
             Man
             Woman
             or
             Child
             ,
             none
             are
             excepted
             ,
             
               be
               born
               again
               of
               Water
               ,
               that
               is
               Baptisme
               :
            
             and
             of
             the
             Spirit
             ,
             not
             Water
             alone
             without
             the
             Spirit
             ,
             or
             Spirit
             alone
             without
             Water
             ,
             but
             of
             Water
             and
             of
             the
             Spirit
             :
             the
             Spirit
             working
             by
             Water
             ,
             
               he
               cannot
               enter
               into
               the
               Kingdome
               of
               God
               ;
            
             that
             is
             he
             cannot
             be
             saved
             .
             None
             can
             possibly
             be
             saved
             except
             they
             be
             Baptised
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             The
             place
             of
             Scripture
             you
             have
             brought
             is
             
               Allegorical
               ,
            
             and
             therefore
             not
             so
             proper
             to
             be
             a
             ground
             for
             Faith
             :
             not
             having
             one
             word
             in
             it
             to
             the
             matter
             in
             hand
             to
             be
             proved
             :
             which
             is
             that
             
               Infants
               canot
               be
               saved
               without
               Baptisme
               :
            
             Now
             here
             is
             in
             this
             TEXT
             ,
             neither
             the
             word
             
               Infant
               ,
            
             nor
             
               Baptisme
               ,
            
             nor
             
               Saved
               :
            
             (
             if
             your
             gloss
             be
             layd
             aside
             :
             )
             But
             I
             have
             three
             things
             in
             answer
             to
             this
             TEXT
             ,
             and
             your
             gloss
             or
             exposition
             :
             The
             first
             is
             a
             general
             rule
             ,
             which
             will
             serve
             to
             answer
             not
             only
             this
             ,
             but
             other
             arguments
             ,
             that
             peradventure
             may
             be
             brought
             .
             
               That
               Scriptures
               must
               be
               considered
               to
               whom
               ,
               and
               of
               whom
               they
               speak
               ;
               and
               not
               to
               be
               applyed
               to
               any
               other
               ,
               concerning
               whom
               it
               doth
               not
               speak
               .
            
             So
             you
             find
             in
             the
             quoted
             place
             ,
             that
             
               Nicodemus
            
             a
             Ruler
             of
             the
             Jews
             ,
             comes
             to
             Christ
             to
             learn
             the
             way
             of
             God
             ,
             that
             so
             he
             might
             work
             the
             workes
             of
             God
             :
             To
             this
             Man
             ,
             Christ
             makes
             answer
             ,
             
               except
               a
               Man
               be
               born
               again
               ,
               &c.
            
             speaking
             neither
             of
             Children
             ,
             nor
             to
             Children
             :
             The
             second
             answer
             is
             this
             :
             that
             by
             being
             born
             again
             of
             Water
             ,
             is
             not
             meant
             Baptisme
             ,
             but
             a
             
               Mistical
            
             not
             a
             
               Litteral
            
             Water
             :
             as
             in
             many
             other
             places
             of
             Scripture
             spoken
             of
             .
             Thirdly
             ,
             if
             it
             were
             granted
             that
             the
             TEXT
             ,
             did
             include
             Children
             ,
             and
             that
             by
             Water
             were
             meant
             Baptisme
             ;
             yet
             will
             it
             not
             follow
             that
             
               Children
               can
               not
               be
               saved
               without
               Baptisme
               ,
            
             because
             here
             is
             only
             mention
             made
             of
             
               entering
               into
               the
               Kingdome
               
               of
               God
               :
            
             you
             know
             that
             the
             Kingdome
             of
             God
             hath
             manyfold
             exceptions
             in
             the
             Scripture
             :
             sometimes
             it
             is
             taken
             for
             
               Gospel
               Preaching
               ,
            
             sometimes
             for
             a
             visible
             Church
             state
             ;
             
               Mat.
               13.
               
               Sometimes
               for
               that
               happiness
               which
               Men
               and
               Women
               (
               and
               not
               Infants
               )
               do
               enjoy
               through
               beleeving
               Rom.
               14.
               17.
               
               The
               Kingdom
               of
               God
               is
               not
               meat
               or
               drink
               ;
               but
               righteousness
               ,
               and
               peace
               ,
               and
               joy
               in
               the
               Holy
               Ghost
               .
            
             This
             
               Kingdom
            
             Infants
             do
             not
             enter
             into
             ,
             although
             they
             should
             be
             Baptised
             ;
             neither
             can
             they
             enter
             so
             long
             as
             they
             continue
             Infants
             .
             Now
             if
             Water
             here
             do
             mean
             Baptisme
             ,
             it
             will
             infer
             no
             more
             but
             this
             ;
             that
             except
             any
             one
             be
             Baptised
             he
             cannot
             enter
             into
             a
             
               Church
               state
               ,
            
             or
             he
             cannot
             
               Enjoy
               righteousness
               and
               peace
               ,
               and
               joy
               ,
               in
               the
               Holy
               Ghost
               .
            
             These
             are
             three
             answers
             I
             have
             for
             this
             TEXT
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             I
             will
             prove
             your
             first
             answer
             to
             be
             insufficient
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             Take
             notice
             that
             if
             you
             can
             prove
             two
             of
             them
             insufficient
             ,
             yet
             if
             the
             third
             stand
             good
             ,
             it
             sufficiently
             answers
             your
             argument
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             I
             will
             prove
             in
             the
             first
             place
             ,
             that
             Children
             are
             here
             meant
             and
             included
             .
             The
             
               TEXT
            
             sayth
             
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
            
             except
             any
             one
             ;
             it
             comprehends
             all
             :
             none
             exempted
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             We
             find
             many
             propositions
             in
             Scripture
             ,
             spoken
             as
             generally
             as
             this
             ,
             where
             the
             Scripture
             speakes
             only
             to
             Men
             :
             and
             you
             your self
             will
             confess
             that
             Children
             are
             not
             included
             :
             as
             
               Mat.
               16.
               24.
               
               If
               any
               one
               will
               come
               after
               me
               ,
               let
               him
               take
               up
               his
               cross
               :
               &c.
               Mark
               8.
               34.
            
             and
             
               Mat.
               10.
               38.
               
               He
               that
               taketh
               not
               up
               his
               Cross
               ,
               and
               followeth
               me
               ;
               is
               not
               worthy
               of
               me
               .
            
             These
             and
             many
             more
             places
             you
             will
             confess
             are
             not
             spoken
             of
             Children
             :
             
               John
               3
               ,
               36.
               
               He
               that
               beleeveth
               on
               the
               Son
               ,
               hath
               everlasting
               life
               :
               and
               he
               that
               beleeveth
               not
               the
               Son
               ,
               shall
               not
               see
               life
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             Have
             you
             a
             Greek
             Testament
             ?
             I
             pray
             look
             the
             place
             :
             as
             I
             remember
             the
             word
             in
             that
             place
             is
             
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
            
             ,
             he
             that
             rejecteth
             or
             rebelleth
             against
             the
             Gospell
             of
             Jesus
             Christ
             ,
             which
             Children
             do
             not
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             I
             do
             confess
             the
             word
             is
             so
             indeed
             ,
             and
             I
             do
             acknowledge
             a
             difference
             between
             
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
            
             and
             
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
            
             
             A
             Child
             cannot
             be
             called
             
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
            
             but
             a
             Child
             may
             be
             sayd
             to
             be
             
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
            
             not
             a
             Beleever
             :
             therefore
             I
             refer
             you
             to
             the
             18
             
               Vers
               .
            
             of
             that
             Chap.
             
             
               He
               that
               beleeveth
               not
               ,
               is
               condemned
               already
               ;
            
             and
             unto
             1.
             
             
               John
               5.
               10.
               
               He
               that
               beleeveth
               not
               ,
               hath
               made
               him
               a
               lyar
               :
            
             in
             both
             which
             places
             Children
             are
             not
             included
             .
          
        
         
           
             Opp.
             
          
           
             It
             is
             true
             that
             Children
             are
             not
             included
             in
             these
             
               TEXTS
               :
            
             But
             here
             are
             many
             reasons
             in
             the
             context
             ,
             whereby
             it
             may
             evidently
             be
             proved
             that
             they
             are
             not
             meant
             of
             Children
             ,
             but
             of
             Men
             and
             Women
             of
             years
             of
             discretion
             :
             but
             you
             are
             not
             able
             to
             prove
             by
             the
             context
             in
             the
             third
             of
             
               John
            
             that
             Children
             are
             not
             included
             in
             the
             word
             
               any
               Man
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             It
             s
             not
             my
             duty
             to
             prove
             any
             thing
             at
             this
             time
             ;
             it
             is
             my
             part
             to
             answer
             ,
             and
             your
             part
             to
             prove
             ,
             or
             disprove
             :
             when
             I
             am
             to
             be
             the
             Opponent
             I
             shall
             prove
             that
             Children
             cannot
             be
             here
             included
             :
             for
             the
             present
             it
             is
             sufficient
             for
             me
             to
             deny
             it
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             For
             your
             second
             answer
             ,
             I
             will
             prove
             that
             by
             Water
             (
             in
             this
             place
             alledged
             )
             is
             meant
             
               Litteral
               Water
               :
            
             it
             is
             plain
             ,
             the
             Scripture
             cals
             it
             Water
             ,
             plain
             Water
             :
             besides
             in
             the
             22th
             
               Vers
               .
            
             is
             rehearsed
             ,
             Christ
             tarrying
             with
             his
             Disciples
             ,
             and
             Baptising
             ;
             and
             in
             the
             23
             
               Vers
               .
               John
               also
               was
               Baptising
               in
               Enon
               near
               to
               Salim
               ;
               because
               there
               was
               much
               Water
               there
               :
            
             here
             by
             
               Water
            
             is
             meant
             
               Literal
               Water
               ,
            
             and
             
               Plain
               Water
               :
            
             And
             where
             can
             you
             find
             in
             the
             Scripture
             ,
             especially
             in
             the
             new
             Testament
             ,
             that
             by
             Water
             is
             meant
             any
             other
             thing
             but
             
               Literal
               Water
               ,
            
             unless
             the
             
               TEXT
            
             doe
             declare
             it
             to
             be
             
               Allegorical
               ?
               As
               out
               of
               his
               Belly
               shall
               flow
               rivers
               of
               Living
               Water
               :
            
             where
             presently
             the
             
               TEXT
            
             adds
             ,
             
               This
               spake
               he
               of
               the
               spirit
               ?
            
             besides
             ,
             the
             constant
             tradition
             of
             the
             Church
             ,
             and
             the
             
               Unanimous
            
             consent
             of
             the
             Fathers
             ,
             did
             interpret
             this
             place
             of
             
               Literal
               Water
               ,
            
             and
             of
             Baptisme
             :
             even
             
               Tertullian
            
             himself
             ,
             who
             is
             the
             man
             that
             is
             principally
             urged
             by
             you
             ,
             doth
             interpret
             this
             
               TEXT
            
             in
             the
             same
             manner
             ,
             
               except
               any
               one
               be
               Baptised
               with
               Water
               and
               the
               Spirit
               ,
               he
               cannot
               be
               saved
               .
            
          
        
         
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             I
             answer
             first
             of
             all
             ,
             it
             is
             no
             reason
             that
             it
             should
             be
             meant
             
               Literall
               Water
            
             here
             in
             the
             first
             
               Vers
            
             because
             
               Literall
               Water
            
             is
             spoken
             of
             in
             the
             22
             and
             23
             
               Verses
               :
            
             for
             those
             words
             are
             a
             report
             of
             what
             was
             done
             at
             another
             time
             ,
             and
             in
             another
             place
             :
             and
             hath
             no
             reference
             to
             this
             matter
             at
             all
             .
             Secondly
             that
             the
             scripture
             is
             frequent
             in
             using
             the
             word
             
               Water
               Allegorically
               ,
            
             is
             very
             plain
             ,
             as
             
               Esay
               .
               51.
               1.
               
               Come
               to
               the
               Waters
               .
               John
               4.
               10.
               
               He
               would
               have
               given
               thee
               Living
               Water
               .
            
             And
             as
             I
             deny
             not
             but
             in
             the
             places
             alledged
             by
             you
             ,
             Water
             is
             taken
             Literally
             :
             so
             may
             it
             be
             evidenced
             that
             it
             is
             very
             frequent
             in
             the
             scriptures
             to
             take
             Water
             Mistically
             ,
             and
             the
             sence
             in
             this
             place
             will
             be
             very
             good
             ,
             with
             this
             interpretation
             .
             Thirdly
             ,
             whereas
             you
             say
             that
             all
             ancient
             writers
             were
             of
             this
             mind
             ,
             even
             
               Tertullian
            
             himself
             .
             I
             say
             that
             cannot
             be
             ,
             that
             
               Tertullian
            
             should
             be
             of
             your
             mind
             ,
             that
             Infants
             could
             not
             be
             saved
             without
             Water
             Baptisme
             :
             for
             he
             himself
             (
             who
             was
             the
             first
             that
             ever
             mentioned
             Infants
             Baptisme
             in
             writing
             )
             doth
             reprove
             it
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             
               Tertullian
            
             was
             not
             the
             first
             that
             mentioned
             Infants
             Baptisme
             ,
             for
             
               Justin
               Martyr
            
             makes
             mention
             of
             it
             ,
             in
             his
             Apologie
             :
             and
             you
             can
             never
             find
             in
             all
             
               Tertullian
            
             that
             he
             sayth
             Infants
             Baptisme
             is
             Vnlawfull
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             
               Justin
               Martyr
            
             never
             once
             mentioned
             Infants
             Baptisme
             :
             for
             
               Tertullian
               ,
            
             I
             do
             not
             say
             he
             sayth
             in
             so
             many
             words
             ,
             that
             Infants
             Baptisme
             is
             Unlawfull
             :
             But
             in
             a
             Sermon
             of
             his
             ,
             intituled
             
               Qui
               sunt
               Baptizandi
               ,
            
             Who
             are
             to
             be
             Baptised
             :
             He
             indeavours
             to
             perswade
             Parents
             to
             keep
             their
             Children
             from
             Baptisme
             ,
             untill
             they
             were
             Capable
             of
             it
             :
             
               You
               will
               not
            
             sayth
             he
             ,
             
               Trust
               them
               with
               Earthly
               treasures
               ,
               untill
               they
               know
               how
               to
               use
               them
               ;
               why
               then
               will
               you
               trust
               them
               with
               the
               Heavenly
               ?
            
             (
             speaking
             of
             Baptisme
             :
             )
             and
             sayth
             he
             
               Fiant
               Christiani
               cum
               Christum
               nosse
               potuerint
               :
            
             Let
             them
             be
             made
             Christians
             when
             they
             are
             able
             to
             know
             Christ
             :
             And
             one
             thing
             more
             I
             must
             tell
             you
             ,
             that
             when
             I
             did
             first
             read
             this
             Sermon
             of
             
               Tertullian
               ,
            
             I
             met
             with
             one
             passage
             which
             I
             did
             not
             understand
             ;
             neither
             could
             I
             make
             any
             sence
             
             of
             it
             :
             wherefore
             I
             consulted
             one
             that
             had
             written
             notes
             upon
             
               Tertullian
               ,
            
             and
             he
             plainly
             confesseth
             that
             those
             words
             were
             added
             by
             him
             to
             this
             end
             :
             
               Vt
               Authoris
               sententiam
               mitigarem
               ,
            
             That
             might
             qualifie
             the
             Opinion
             of
             the
             Authour
             ,
             concerning
             Baptisme
             :
             where
             you
             see
             what
             fair
             dealing
             we
             have
             had
             with
             the
             writings
             of
             the
             Ancients
             :
             when
             an
             
               Index
               expurgatorius
            
             hath
             passed
             upon
             them
             ,
             and
             expunged
             (
             by
             confession
             )
             many
             hundred
             sentences
             :
             and
             who
             knows
             how
             many
             they
             have
             inserted
             ?
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             I
             can
             make
             it
             plain
             out
             of
             
               Tertullian
               ,
            
             that
             he
             alloweth
             the
             
               Baptisme
               of
               Infants
               ,
            
             in
             case
             of
             necessitie
             ,
             and
             danger
             of
             death
             :
             Besides
             it
             is
             known
             
               Tertullian
            
             was
             an
             Heretique
             and
             died
             an
             Heretique
             .
             But
             I
             shall
             refer
             to
             the
             Auditors
             what
             hath
             been
             said
             unto
             this
             argument
             .
             You
             have
             said
             any
             one
             ,
             doth
             not
             include
             all
             ,
             and
             that
             water
             is
             not
             Literall
             water
             :
             I
             will
             proceed
             to
             another
             argument
             ,
             to
             prove
             the
             Lawfullness
             of
             
               Infant
               Baptisme
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             A
             
          
           
             There
             was
             yet
             nothing
             spoken
             to
             the
             third
             answer
             of
             the
             Respondent
             ,
             which
             is
             of
             as
             great
             consequence
             as
             any
             of
             the
             other
             :
             and
             if
             the
             other
             were
             of
             no
             force
             ,
             yet
             if
             that
             stand
             good
             ,
             the
             argument
             is
             of
             no
             force
             :
             it
             was
             this
             ,
             that
             supposing
             the
             
               TEXT
            
             alledged
             ,
             did
             speak
             of
             Baptising
             ;
             yet
             by
             
               Entring
               into
               the
               Kingdome
               of
               Heaven
               ,
            
             is
             meant
             no
             other
             thing
             then
             a
             state
             of
             happiness
             ,
             which
             beleevers
             do
             attain
             unto
             here
             in
             this
             life
             ,
             through
             faith
             in
             Christ
             Jesus
             ,
             viz.
             
               Righteousness
               ,
            
             
               and
               Peace
               ,
               and
               Joy
               in
               the
               Holy
               Ghost
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             B
             
          
           
             I
             suppose
             the
             Opponent
             had
             forgotten
             to
             refell
             it
             :
             and
             the
             Answerer
             ,
             had
             also
             forgotten
             to
             call
             for
             it
             .
             Let
             us
             hear
             the
             Opponent
             prosecuting
             a
             second
             argument
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             That
             which
             is
             no
             sin
             for
             Parents
             to
             require
             ,
             and
             for
             Ministers
             to
             perform
             being
             required
             ,
             is
             Lawfull
             .
             But
             it
             is
             no
             sin
             for
             Parents
             to
             require
             Baptisme
             for
             their
             Infants
             ▪
             neither
             for
             Ministers
             to
             perform
             it
             being
             required
             :
             
             Therefore
             the
             Baptisme
             of
             Infants
             is
             Lawfull
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             I
             deny
             the
             minor
             .
             It
             is
             a
             sin
             for
             Parents
             to
             require
             ,
             and
             for
             Ministers
             to
             administer
             Baptisme
             to
             Infants
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             That
             which
             is
             confirmed
             by
             an
             everlasting
             law
             ,
             and
             standing
             commission
             ,
             not
             to
             be
             altered
             to
             the
             end
             of
             the
             World
             ,
             is
             no
             sin
             for
             Parents
             to
             require
             ,
             or
             for
             Ministers
             to
             perform
             .
          
           
             But
             the
             Baptisme
             of
             Infants
             is
             confirmed
             by
             an
             everlasting
             law
             ,
             and
             standing
             commission
             ,
             not
             to
             be
             altered
             to
             the
             end
             of
             the
             World
             :
             Therefore
             it
             cannot
             be
             sin
             in
             Parents
             to
             require
             ,
             or
             in
             Ministers
             to
             performe
             ,
             being
             required
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             I
             deny
             the
             minor
             ,
             and
             say
             ,
             There
             is
             
               No
               commission
               authorizing
               Parents
               to
               require
               ,
               or
               Ministers
               to
               administer
               Baptisme
               to
               Infants
               ,
               being
               required
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             The
             Commission
             is
             
               Mat.
               28.
               18
               ,
               19
               ,
               20.
               
               All
               power
               is
               given
               to
               me
               in
               Heaven
               and
               in
               Earth
               ▪
               Go
               ye
               therefore
               ,
               and
               make
               Disciples
               of
               all
               Nations
               ,
               Baptizing
               them
               in
               the
               Name
               of
               the
               Father
               ,
               and
               of
               the
               Son
               ,
               and
               of
               the
               Holy
               Ghost
               :
               Teaching
               them
               to
               observe
               all
               things
               that
               I
               have
               commanded
               you
               :
               and
               lo
               ,
               I
               am
               with
               you
               always
               ,
               even
               unto
               the
               end
               of
               the
               World
               .
               AMEN
               .
            
             Here
             the
             Apostles
             are
             Commanded
             to
             make
             Diciples
             of
             all
             Nations
             ,
             Baptising
             them
             ,
             and
             then
             teaching
             them
             .
             Here
             it
             is
             plain
             Baptising
             ,
             after
             Teaching
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             I
             do
             not
             deny
             that
             Teaching
             should
             follow
             Baptisme
             ,
             But
             I
             deny
             that
             Baptisme
             should
             go
             before
             all
             Teaching
             :
             moreover
             here
             is
             not
             one
             word
             of
             Parents
             requiring
             Baptisme
             for
             Infants
             ;
             or
             one
             word
             of
             Infants
             being
             Baptised
             :
             And
             whereas
             you
             seem
             to
             imply
             that
             the
             Apostles
             should
             make
             Disciples
             ,
             by
             Baptising
             of
             them
             .
             I
             demand
             of
             you
             before
             this
             assembly
             whether
             you
             beleeve
             that
             by
             vertue
             of
             this
             Commission
             ,
             by
             you
             alledged
             ,
             the
             Apostles
             or
             their
             successors
             either
             had
             ,
             or
             have
             authority
             to
             take
             all
             Nations
             and
             Baptise
             them
             ,
             whether
             they
             will
             or
             no
             ?
             Whether
             they
             consent
             or
             not
             ?
          
        
         
           
             Opp.
             
          
           
             No
             ,
             I
             do
             not
             imagin
             so
             :
             but
             that
             they
             were
             first
             to
             make
             
             those
             (
             that
             where
             of
             years
             of
             discretion
             )
             willing
             ,
             by
             Preaching
             ;
             and
             then
             to
             Baptise
             them
             :
             And
             those
             that
             were
             not
             of
             years
             to
             make
             them
             
               Disciples
               ,
            
             by
             
               Baptising
               of
               them
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             Now
             you
             say
             something
             ,
             first
             make
             them
             willing
             ▪
             and
             then
             Baptise
             them
             .
             But
             you
             have
             not
             exprest
             in
             the
             Commission
             any
             thing
             of
             Children
             who
             are
             not
             willing
             :
             How
             willing
             Children
             are
             ,
             appears
             by
             their
             Crying
             and
             Strugling
             at
             the
             Font
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             I
             will
             prove
             Children
             are
             not
             unwilling
             ,
             for
             as
             
               Ignoti
               nulla
               Cupido
               ,
            
             there
             can
             be
             no
             desire
             or
             will
             to
             a
             thing
             we
             do
             not
             know
             ,
             so
             neither
             can
             there
             be
             any
             Vnwillingness
             to
             that
             which
             is
             unknown
             :
             now
             Children
             knowing
             nothing
             of
             Baptisme
             ,
             it
             is
             not
             possible
             they
             should
             be
             Vnwilling
             ,
             seeing
             they
             know
             not
             any
             thing
             of
             the
             matter
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             You
             might
             have
             spared
             this
             labour
             :
             for
             I
             did
             not
             say
             Children
             were
             Unwilling
             :
             But
             I
             said
             they
             were
             not
             Willing
             :
             your
             duty
             had
             been
             to
             prove
             they
             were
             Willing
             :
             there
             is
             a
             vast
             difference
             between
             Unwilling
             ,
             and
             not
             Willing
             :
             you
             know
             how
             willing
             
               Constantinus
               Copronymus
            
             was
             to
             be
             Baptised
             ,
             when
             he
             was
             an
             Infant
             ;
             and
             how
             he
             came
             to
             have
             the
             name
             of
             
               Copronymus
               :
            
             I
             can
             tell
             you
             the
             story
             ,
             But
             I
             will
             not
             in
             this
             auditory
             .
             I
             desire
             you
             to
             frame
             a
             Silogisme
             out
             of
             the
             TEXT
             alledged
             ,
             concluding
             that
             here
             is
             a
             commission
             ▪
             either
             to
             Baptise
             Infants
             ,
             or
             to
             require
             their
             Baptisme
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             I
             will
             ,
             The
             Apostles
             are
             here
             Commanded
             to
             make
             Disciples
             of
             all
             Nations
             :
             now
             Infants
             who
             are
             part
             of
             the
             Nations
             ,
             cannot
             be
             made
             Disciples
             any
             other
             way
             then
             by
             Baptisme
             :
             therefore
             they
             are
             here
             commanded
             to
             make
             Disciples
             by
             Baptisme
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             First
             I
             say
             ,
             you
             cannot
             prove
             that
             this
             Commission
             under
             the
             title
             of
             all
             Nations
             ,
             extendeth
             any
             more
             to
             Infants
             then
             that
             in
             
               Mark
               16.
               
               Go
               preach
               the
               Gospel
               to
               every
               Creature
               ,
            
             extendeth
             to
             Infants
             :
             you
             will
             confess
             you
             have
             no
             warrant
             for
             to
             Preach
             to
             an
             Infant
             in
             the
             Cradle
             ,
             from
             this
             place
             .
          
           
             Secondly
             ,
             I
             deny
             that
             Baptisme
             maketh
             Disciples
             ,
             it
             
             manifesteth
             one
             to
             be
             a
             Disciple
             ,
             it
             doth
             not
             make
             him
             one
             ▪
             I
             pray
             prove
             if
             you
             can
             ,
             that
             Baptisme
             maketh
             any
             one
             a
             Disciple
             :
             it
             is
             written
             
               John
               .
               4.
               1.
               
               Jesus
               made
               ,
               and
               Baptised
               more
               Disciples
               then
               John
               .
            
             It
             is
             one
             thing
             to
             make
             ,
             another
             thing
             to
             baptise
             a
             disciple
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             I
             had
             thought
             it
             had
             been
             a
             matter
             of
             conscience
             ,
             your
             deniall
             of
             the
             Baptisme
             of
             Infants
             :
             but
             now
             I
             perceive
             you
             go
             about
             to
             deny
             all
             Baptisme
             .
             I
             will
             prove
             it
             is
             no
             sin
             for
             Parents
             to
             require
             Baptisme
             for
             their
             Infants
             .
             Where
             there
             is
             no
             Law
             ,
             there
             is
             no
             Transgression
             ;
             for
             sin
             ,
             is
             the
             Transgression
             of
             a
             Law
             :
             But
             there
             is
             no
             Law
             forbidding
             Parents
             to
             require
             Baptisme
             for
             their
             Infants
             ,
             or
             forbidding
             Ministers
             to
             administer
             Baptisme
             to
             Infants
             :
             therefore
             it
             is
             no
             sin
             either
             to
             require
             ,
             or
             administer
             Baptisme
             to
             Infants
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             There
             is
             a
             Law
             forbidding
             it
             ,
             and
             that
             under
             a
             severe
             punishment
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             Shew
             where
             that
             Law
             is
             to
             be
             found
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             I
             will
             ,
             
               Deut.
               18.
               20.
               
               Here
               Moses
               Prophesieth
               of
               Christ
               in
               these
               Words
               .
               A
               Prophet
               shall
               the
               Lord
               your
               God
               raise
               up
               unto
               you
               ,
               &c.
               
               But
               the
               Prophet
               that
               shall
               presume
               to
               speak
               a
               word
               in
               my
               Name
               ,
               which
               I
               have
               not
               Commanded
               him
               &c.
               
               Even
               that
               Prophet
               shall
               die
               .
            
             Mark
             this
             ,
             
               One
               word
               ▪
            
             and
             
               Prover
               .
               30.
               6.
               
               Add
               not
               thou
               to
               his
               Words
               ,
               lest
               he
               reprove
               thee
               ,
               and
               thou
               be
               found
               a
               liar
               .
            
             So
             that
             until
             you
             be
             able
             to
             prove
             a
             command
             ,
             there
             must
             needs
             lye
             a
             prohibition
             in
             the
             way
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             I
             have
             proved
             a
             Command
             already
             ,
             and
             I
             will
             further
             prove
             it
             .
             All
             Church
             members
             may
             Lawfully
             be
             .
             Baptised
             :
             Infants
             are
             Church
             members
             ,
             Therefore
             Infants
             may
             Lawfully
             be
             Baptised
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             I
             deny
             the
             minor
             .
             Infants
             are
             no
             Church
             members
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             The
             minor
             is
             thus
             proved
             ;
             If
             Infants
             belong
             to
             the
             body
             of
             Christ
             ,
             as
             members
             of
             his
             body
             ,
             then
             are
             they
             Church
             members
             .
             But
             Infants
             belong
             to
             the
             body
             of
             Christ
             ,
             as
             members
             of
             his
             body
             ,
             therefore
             Infants
             are
             Church
             members
             .
          
        
         
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             I
             deny
             the
             consequence
             ,
             though
             they
             be
             members
             of
             Christ
             body
             ,
             yet
             are
             they
             not
             to
             be
             accounted
             Church
             members
             .
          
        
         
           
             Opp.
             
          
           
             If
             all
             the
             body
             of
             Christ
             be
             Church
             members
             ;
             then
             if
             they
             be
             of
             the
             body
             of
             Christ
             ,
             then
             are
             they
             Church
             members
             :
             But
             all
             the
             body
             of
             Christ
             are
             Church
             members
             :
             therefore
             Infants
             are
             Church
             members
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             I
             deny
             the
             minor
             ,
             All
             the
             body
             of
             Christ
             are
             not
             Church
             members
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             The
             minor
             is
             proved
             :
             
               Ephe.
               1.
               23.
               
               And
               hath
               given
               him
               to
               be
               head
               over
               all
               things
               ,
               to
               the
               Church
               ,
               which
               is
               his
               Body
               .
            
             The
             Father
             hath
             given
             Christ
             to
             be
             head
             over
             all
             things
             to
             the
             Church
             ▪
             or
             in
             the
             Church
             ,
             which
             is
             his
             body
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             You
             do
             now
             dishonour
             me
             ,
             in
             seeking
             to
             deceive
             my
             understanding
             :
             the
             thing
             you
             were
             to
             prove
             ,
             was
             ,
             that
             all
             that
             did
             belong
             to
             the
             body
             of
             Christ
             ,
             are
             Church
             members
             :
             And
             you
             bring
             me
             a
             TEXT
             to
             prove
             that
             all
             the
             
               Church
               is
               the
               body
               of
               Christ
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             Where
             lyes
             the
             difference
             ,
             of
             these
             two
             propositions
             ?
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             The
             difference
             is
             very
             great
             between
             these
             two
             propositions
             .
             
               All
               the
               Church
               is
               his
               body
               ,
            
             and
             
               All
               his
               body
               is
               the
               Church
               .
            
             As
             much
             as
             if
             I
             should
             say
             ;
             All
             that
             are
             in
             this
             place
             
               are
               Freemen
               of
               London
               ;
            
             and
             all
             
               Freemen
               of
               London
            
             are
             in
             this
             place
             .
             If
             you
             have
             a
             TEXT
             that
             sayth
             ,
             All
             that
             belong
             to
             his
             body
             are
             Church
             members
             ,
             Let
             us
             hear
             that
             ,
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             I
             will
             prove
             that
             Infants
             are
             Church
             members
             .
             All
             that
             are
             called
             ,
             are
             Church
             members
             :
             but
             Infants
             are
             called
             ,
             therefore
             Infants
             are
             Church
             members
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             I
             deny
             the
             minor
             ,
             Infants
             are
             not
             called
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             All
             that
             are
             
               Predestinated
            
             are
             called
             ,
             But
             Infants
             are
             
               Predestinated
               ;
            
             therefore
             Infants
             are
             called
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             I
             deny
             the
             
               Major
               :
            
             All
             that
             are
             Predestinated
             are
             not
             called
             .
          
        
         
           
             Opp.
             
          
           
             The
             major
             is
             proved
             
               Rom.
               8.
               29
               ,
               30.
               
               VVhom
               he
               did
               foreknow
               ,
               them
               he
               did
               Predestinate
               to
               be
               conformed
               to
               the
               image
               ,
               &c.
               that
               he
               might
               be
               the
               first-born
               among
               many
               
               brethren
               .
               Moreover
               ,
               whom
               he
               did
               Predestinate
               ,
               them
               also
               he
               called
               :
               and
               whom
               he
               called
               ,
               them
               he
               also
               justified
               :
               and
               whom
               he
               justified
               ,
               them
               he
               also
               glorified
               .
            
             Out
             of
             this
             
               TEXT
            
             it
             follows
             ,
             that
             if
             Infants
             be
             Predestinate
             ,
             then
             they
             are
             called
             :
             for
             whom
             he
             did
             Predestinate
             ,
             them
             also
             he
             called
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             The
             Apostle
             speaks
             of
             such
             ,
             and
             to
             such
             to
             whom
             he
             Wrote
             this
             Epistle
             .
             Here
             cannot
             be
             proved
             that
             all
             the
             Predestinate
             are
             Called
             :
             neither
             do
             you
             your self
             beleeve
             it
             .
             He
             hath
             Called
             the
             Predestinate
             
               Romans
               ,
            
             to
             whom
             he
             Wrote
             :
             But
             he
             hath
             not
             Called
             all
             the
             Predestinate
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             I
             will
             prove
             that
             Infants
             are
             Gods
             servants
             ,
             and
             that
             he
             owns
             them
             for
             his
             servants
             ,
             and
             calls
             them
             his
             servants
             ;
             and
             therefore
             they
             must
             necessarily
             be
             Baptised
             ,
             in
             regard
             they
             can
             do
             him
             no
             service
             at
             all
             ,
             but
             by
             being
             Baptised
             .
             The
             proof
             of
             this
             is
             
               Levit.
               25.
               42.
               
               They
               are
               my
               servants
               which
               I
               brought
               forth
               of
               the
               Land
               of
               Egypt
               .
            
             That
             is
             the
             Children
             ,
             as
             well
             as
             Men
             ,
             and
             Women
             :
             for
             here
             the
             Lord
             renders
             a
             reason
             of
             his
             command
             ,
             
               viz.
            
             that
             in
             the
             Year
             of
             
               Jubile
            
             the
             Bondman
             should
             go
             free
             himself
             ,
             and
             his
             Wife
             ,
             and
             Children
             also
             .
             And
             this
             reason
             is
             rendred
             ,
             for
             they
             are
             my
             
               Servants
               ,
               whom
               I
               brought
               out
               of
               the
               Land
               of
               Egypt
               .
            
             He
             speaks
             of
             reall
             service
             ,
             such
             as
             Bondmen
             do
             perform
             towards
             their
             Masters
             :
             now
             if
             it
             be
             required
             in
             a
             servant
             to
             do
             his
             Master
             service
             ,
             and
             Infants
             can
             do
             no
             other
             service
             ;
             Then
             it
             will
             follow
             ,
             that
             Infants
             must
             and
             ought
             to
             be
             Baptised
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             I
             pray
             you
             produce
             your
             
               Syllogisme
               ,
            
             Concluding
             what
             you
             ought
             to
             conclude
             ,
             and
             I
             shall
             give
             you
             answer
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             Thus
             I
             argue
             ,
             All
             Gods
             servants
             may
             Lawfully
             be
             Baptised
             :
             Children
             are
             Gods
             servants
             :
             Therefore
             they
             may
             Lawfully
             be
             Baptised
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             ,
          
           
             I
             deny
             the
             major
             ;
             all
             Gods
             servants
             may
             not
             Lawfully
             be
             Baptised
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             If
             a
             servant
             be
             one
             who
             doth
             service
             ,
             and
             they
             can
             do
             him
             no
             other
             service
             ,
             then
             either
             they
             may
             be
             Baptised
             ,
             or
             else
             they
             can
             do
             God
             no
             service
             at
             all
             :
             yet
             God
             calls
             them
             servants
             .
          
        
         
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             I
             answer
             in
             two
             propositions
             :
             First
             ,
             Infants
             do
             not
             perform
             any
             service
             to
             God
             ,
             by
             being
             Baptised
             .
             Secondly
             ,
             Infants
             are
             Gods
             servants
             ,
             though
             Unbaptised
             ,
             or
             before
             they
             come
             to
             be
             Baptised
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             What
             service
             do
             Unbaptised
             Infants
             do
             to
             God
             ?
             Give
             an
             instance
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             They
             are
             very
             faithfull
             servants
             ,
             performing
             all
             things
             that
             God
             requireth
             of
             them
             ,
             to
             be
             performed
             by
             them
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             That
             is
             just
             nothing
             ,
             they
             Eat
             and
             Drink
             and
             Sleep
             ;
             this
             is
             all
             they
             perform
             ,
             and
             all
             the
             service
             they
             can
             do
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             It
             is
             good
             service
             for
             a
             servant
             to
             be
             quiet
             and
             do
             nothing
             ,
             when
             and
             where
             nothing
             is
             required
             :
             it
             is
             disservice
             to
             be
             busy
             and
             doing
             when
             the
             Master
             requires
             nothing
             :
             whereas
             you
             say
             they
             Eat
             and
             Drink
             &c.
             
             I
             say
             therein
             they
             are
             Gods
             servants
             ,
             and
             that
             is
             the
             service
             God
             requires
             of
             them
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             God
             speaks
             of
             real
             service
             ,
             such
             as
             Bondmen
             require
             from
             servants
             :
             will
             any
             imagin
             a
             Bondman
             serves
             his
             Master
             ,
             that
             Eats
             and
             Drinks
             and
             doth
             nothing
             else
             ?
             This
             is
             strange
             service
             .
          
        
         
           
             Kes
             .
          
           
             Surely
             Eating
             and
             Drinking
             by
             Infants
             is
             a
             reall
             service
             ;
             such
             as
             Masters
             do
             require
             ,
             and
             all
             that
             they
             do
             require
             of
             their
             Infant-servants
             :
             and
             this
             proveth
             very
             advantageous
             for
             the
             Masters
             profit
             .
             Suppose
             I
             buy
             a
             servant
             an
             Infant
             for
             Ten
             shillings
             ,
             this
             Infant
             Eats
             and
             Drinks
             ,
             and
             thereby
             grows
             in
             stature
             ,
             and
             I
             sell
             him
             for
             Ten
             pound
             :
             was
             not
             his
             Eating
             and
             Drinking
             reall
             service
             ?
             Doth
             not
             the
             
               Ox
            
             in
             the
             pasture
             do
             the
             Master
             as
             reall
             service
             (
             though
             he
             do
             nothing
             but
             Eat
             and
             Drink
             )
             as
             the
             
               Ox
            
             that
             laboureth
             dayly
             at
             the
             
               Plough
               ?
            
             There
             will
             not
             be
             any
             thing
             gained
             by
             this
             Argument
             ,
             untill
             you
             can
             make
             it
             appear
             that
             the
             Eating
             and
             Drinking
             which
             is
             performed
             by
             Infants
             is
             no
             service
             of
             God
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             I
             will
             proceed
             to
             another
             argument
             :
             
               2.
               Cor.
               5.
               14
               ,
               15.
               
               If
               one
               dyed
               for
               all
               ,
               then
               were
               all
               dead
               :
               And
               that
               he
               dyed
               for
               all
               ,
               that
               they
               which
               live
               ,
               should
               not
               henceforth
               live
               unto
               themselves
               ,
               But
               unto
               him
               who
               dyed
               for
               them
               ,
               and
               
               rose
               again
               .
            
             It
             is
             plain
             from
             hence
             that
             all
             Infants
             were
             dead
             ,
             if
             Christ
             dyed
             for
             them
             :
             for
             thus
             the
             Apostle
             reasons
             :
             
               If
               Christ
               dyed
               for
               all
               ,
               then
               were
               all
               dead
               :
            
             But
             he
             dyed
             for
             all
             ,
             and
             therefore
             for
             Infants
             ,
             as
             well
             as
             others
             ;
             Therefore
             Infants
             were
             dead
             as
             others
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             I
             confess
             
               all
               were
               dead
               :
            
             But
             what
             this
             makes
             to
             the
             purpose
             to
             grant
             unto
             you
             that
             
               Infants
               were
               dead
               ,
            
             I
             do
             not
             perceive
             as
             yet
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             If
             Infants
             were
             
               dead
               ,
            
             and
             it
             be
             the
             will
             of
             Christ
             they
             should
             be
             made
             alive
             again
             ,
             then
             may
             they
             lawfully
             be
             baptised
             :
             But
             
               Infants
               were
               dead
               ,
            
             and
             it
             is
             the
             will
             of
             Christ
             they
             should
             be
             made
             
               alive
               again
               ;
            
             therefore
             they
             may
             lawfully
             be
             baptised
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             I
             deny
             this
             consequence
             :
             Though
             they
             were
             
               dead
               ,
            
             and
             it
             be
             the
             will
             of
             Christ
             they
             should
             be
             made
             alive
             again
             ;
             yet
             may
             they
             not
             lawfully
             be
             baptised
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             He
             that
             willeth
             the
             end
             ,
             must
             needs
             will
             the
             means
             to
             accomplish
             that
             end
             .
             Now
             of
             Christ
             would
             have
             Infants
             to
             be
             made
             alive
             again
             ,
             and
             there
             be
             no
             other
             means
             whereby
             they
             can
             be
             made
             alive
             ,
             but
             by
             
               Baptisme
               ;
            
             then
             he
             willeth
             their
             
               Baptisme
               .
            
             But
             Christ
             would
             have
             them
             Live
             ,
             and
             there
             is
             no
             other
             means
             for
             them
             to
             be
             made
             alive
             but
             by
             
               Baptising
               :
            
             Therefore
             Christ
             willeth
             their
             
               Baptisme
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             I
             deny
             the
             minor
             ,
             there
             is
             other
             means
             for
             Children
             to
             be
             made
             alive
             ,
             though
             not
             by
             Baptisme
             .
          
        
         
           
             Opp.
             
          
           
             Assigne
             that
             other
             means
             whereby
             Children
             may
             be
             made
             alive
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             Children
             are
             made
             alive
             without
             any
             
               Ministerial
               Applycation
            
             at
             all
             .
             Being
             Sanctified
             by
             the
             
               Bloud
               of
               the
               Covenant
               ,
            
             shed
             once
             for
             all
             .
             God
             applying
             the
             vertue
             of
             the
             Death
             ,
             and
             of
             the
             Resurrection
             of
             Jesus
             Christ
             unto
             them
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             Then
             there
             needeth
             not
             any
             ministeriall
             applycation
             ,
             to
             make
             Children
             partakers
             of
             the
             
               Bloud
               of
               Christ
               ,
            
             shed
             for
             them
             .
             You
             do
             undervalue
             
               Baptisme
               ,
            
             as
             if
             it
             were
             of
             no
             use
             at
             all
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             I
             do
             beleeve
             the
             Baptisme
             of
             Infants
             to
             be
             of
             no
             use
             at
             
             all
             .
             I
             do
             acknowledge
             the
             Baptisme
             of
             Beleevers
             to
             be
             of
             good
             use
             .
             Yet
             not
             to
             make
             dead
             men
             alive
             :
             
               Baptisme
               is
               for
               the
               living
               ,
               not
               for
               the
               dead
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             Another
             argument
             :
             That
             the
             Father
             hath
             given
             Infants
             to
             Christ
             ,
             cannot
             be
             denied
             .
             For.
             
               All
               that
               the
               Father
               giveth
               me
               ,
               commeth
               unto
               me
               ,
               John
            
             6.
             37.
             and
             If
             Infants
             be
             given
             by
             the
             Father
             to
             Christ
             ,
             then
             they
             must
             needs
             Come
             to
             Christ
             :
             and
             if
             they
             come
             to
             Christ
             ,
             it
             must
             be
             either
             by
             
               Faith
               ,
               Repentance
               ,
            
             or
             
               Baptisme
               :
            
             for
             there
             can
             be
             no
             other
             way
             assigned
             ,
             whereby
             any
             should
             come
             unto
             Christ
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             Do
             you
             not
             remember
             that
             I
             gave
             you
             a
             general
             rule
             ,
             in
             the
             answer
             to
             your
             first
             argument
             ,
             very
             necessary
             for
             the
             right
             understanding
             of
             Scripture
             ?
             Namely
             ,
             that
             we
             must
             consider
             of
             whom
             ,
             and
             to
             whom
             ,
             the
             Scripture
             speaks
             ?
             And
             you
             will
             find
             that
             in
             this
             place
             alledged
             ,
             the
             Scripture
             speaks
             of
             those
             persons
             to
             whom
             (
             at
             that
             time
             our
             Saviour
             speak
             those
             words
             ;
             and
             cannot
             be
             applyed
             to
             any
             persons
             at
             any
             time
             .
             In
             the
             36th
             
               Vers
               .
               Jesus
               said
               unto
               them
               ,
               ye
               have
               seen
               me
               ,
               and
               beleeve
               not
               :
               All
               that
               the
               Father
               giveth
               me
               ,
               will
               or
               shall
               come
               unto
               me
               .
            
             If
             you
             think
             this
             answer
             sufficeth
             not
             ,
             frame
             a
             Syllogisme
             from
             the
             place
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             If
             Infants
             come
             unto
             Christ
             ,
             then
             they
             ought
             to
             be
             Baptised
             :
             but
             Infants
             come
             unto
             Christ
             :
             
               Therefore
               Infants
               are
               to
               be
               Baptised
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             I
             deny
             the
             Consequence
             ,
             though
             Infants
             do
             come
             unto
             Christ
             (
             in
             some
             sence
             )
             though
             not
             in
             the
             sence
             of
             that
             place
             alledged
             )
             yet
             need
             they
             not
             therefore
             to
             be
             Baptised
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             If
             there
             be
             no
             other
             way
             for
             them
             to
             come
             ,
             but
             by
             Baptisme
             ,
             then
             if
             they
             come
             they
             must
             needs
             be
             Baptised
             .
             But
             there
             is
             no
             other
             way
             for
             them
             to
             come
             to
             Christ
             but
             by
             Baptisme
             .
             Therefore
             if
             they
             come
             they
             must
             needs
             be
             Baptised
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             I
             deny
             the
             minor
             .
             There
             is
             another
             way
             for
             Infants
             to
             come
             to
             Christ
             ,
             then
             by
             Baptising
             .
          
        
         
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             If
             there
             be
             no
             other
             way
             to
             come
             unto
             Christ
             ,
             but
             by
             
               Faith
               ,
               Repentance
               ,
            
             or
             
               Baptisme
               ;
            
             and
             Infants
             cannot
             come
             unto
             Christ
             by
             
               Faith
               ,
            
             or
             
               Repentance
               :
            
             therefore
             they
             must
             needs
             come
             by
             Baptisme
             ,
             or
             not
             at
             all
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             I
             deny
             the
             minor
             ▪
             there
             is
             some
             other
             way
             to
             come
             unto
             Christ
             ,
             then
             by
             
               Faith
               ,
               Repentance
               ,
            
             or
             
               Baptisme
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             Assigne
             another
             way
             for
             Children
             to
             come
             unto
             Christ
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             Christ
             Jesus
             is
             the
             second
             Adam
             ,
             the
             Heavenly
             Adam
             :
             As
             truly
             as
             all
             Infants
             where
             dead
             in
             the
             Loyns
             of
             the
             first
             and
             earthly
             Adam
             ,
             so
             truly
             are
             all
             Infants
             Spiritually
             in
             the
             Loyns
             of
             the
             second
             and
             Heavenly
             Adam
             .
             In
             the
             first
             Adam
             they
             were
             by
             a
             naturall
             union
             :
             In
             the
             second
             by
             a
             Spirituall
             union
             :
             By
             vertue
             whereof
             they
             are
             Sanctified
             by
             the
             bloud
             of
             the
             Covenant
             ,
             and
             made
             partakers
             of
             grace
             and
             favour
             with
             God
             ,
             without
             any
             ministeriall
             application
             ;
             And
             so
             made
             alive
             in
             the
             second
             Adam
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             You
             cannot
             prove
             what
             you
             say
             to
             be
             true
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             It
             sufficeth
             me
             at
             this
             time
             that
             you
             cannot
             prove
             it
             false
             :
             It
             is
             my
             duty
             now
             to
             answer
             :
             when
             it
             falls
             to
             my
             lot
             to
             prove
             ,
             I
             shall
             prove
             what
             is
             or
             may
             be
             required
             of
             me
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             I
             will
             urge
             you
             with
             what
             is
             writen
             in
             the
             
               1
               Corinth
               .
               10.
               Chap.
               1
               ,
               2
               ,
               3.
               vers.
               All
               our
               Fathers
               were
               under
               the
               cloud
               ;
               and
               all
               passed
               thorow
               the
               Sea
               :
               And
               were
               all
               Baptised
               unto
               Moses
               in
               the
               cloud
               ,
               and
               in
               the
               Sea
               :
               And
               did
               all
               eat
               the
               same
               Spirituall
               meat
               :
               And
               did
               all
               drink
               the
               same
               Spirituall
               drink
               :
               (
               for
               they
               drank
               of
               that
               Spirituall
               Rock
               that
               followed
               them
               :
               and
               that
               Rock
               was
               Christ
               .
               )
               But
               with
               many
               of
               them
               God
               was
               not
               well
               pleased
               ;
               for
               they
               were
               overthrown
               in
               the
               Wilderness
               .
               Now
               these
               things
               were
               our
               Examples
               ,
            
             or
             
               Types
            
             or
             
               Figures
               ,
            
             and
             in
             the
             
               11.
               vers.
               All
               these
               things
               hapned
               unto
               them
               for
               Types
               .
            
             Here
             you
             see
             their
             Baptisme
             was
             a
             type
             of
             our
             Baptisme
             .
             In
             that
             Baptisme
             Men
             Women
             and
             Children
             were
             Baptised
             unto
             Moses
             :
             Therefore
             in
             our
             Baptisme
             Men
             Women
             and
             Children
             ought
             to
             be
             Baptised
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             First
             I
             say
             ,
             the
             TEXT
             doth
             not
             say
             Men
             Women
             and
             Children
             ,
             But
             all
             our
             Fathers
             .
             Secondly
             it
             may
             be
             made
             
             plain
             by
             the
             TEXT
             ,
             that
             Infants
             were
             not
             Baptised
             unto
             Moses
             in
             the
             Sea
             :
             for
             it
             is
             said
             ,
             they
             did
             all
             
               Eat
               and
               Drink
               the
               same
               Spiritual
               meat
               ,
               &c.
               
            
             You
             cannot
             affirm
             that
             Infants
             did
             Eat
             and
             Drink
             Spiritually
             .
             The
             TEXT
             speaks
             not
             of
             Children
             .
             Thirdly
             ,
             It
             is
             not
             the
             Apostles
             intent
             to
             declare
             that
             their
             Baptisme
             was
             a
             type
             of
             ours
             :
             But
             that
             their
             Punishments
             were
             Figures
             and
             Types
             ,
             and
             written
             for
             our
             admonition
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             He
             saith
             in
             the
             
               6th
               vers
               .
               These
               things
               happened
               unto
               them
               for
               Examples
               ,
            
             and
             in
             the
             
               11.
               vers.
               All
               these
               things
               happened
               unto
               them
               for
               Types
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             Yea
             all
             their
             Punishments
             ,
             for
             look
             in
             the
             
               6th
               vers
               .
               These
               things
               were
               our
               Examples
            
             (
             he
             saith
             not
             To
             the
             intent
             that
             we
             should
             Baptise
             Infants
             ,
             as
             they
             Baptised
             them
             )
             but
             
               To
               the
               intent
               we
               should
               not
               lust
               .
            
             It
             is
             no
             mo●●
             in
             effect
             but
             this
             .
             No
             priviledges
             how
             great
             soever
             can
             exempt
             Men
             (
             that
             are
             sinfull
             ,
             and
             depart
             from
             the
             Lord
             )
             from
             suffering
             of
             Punishment
             :
             Christ
             hath
             given
             you
             great
             and
             many
             priviledges
             ,
             as
             he
             did
             to
             the
             People
             of
             the
             
               Jews
               ;
            
             yet
             do
             not
             you
             presume
             ,
             for
             as
             they
             did
             not
             escape
             when
             they
             sinned
             ;
             no
             more
             shall
             you
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             2
             Thess.
             2.
             15.
             
             
               Brethren
               stand
               fast
               ,
               and
               hold
               the
               traditions
               which
               yee
               have
               been
               taught
               ;
               whether
               by
               word
               ,
               or
               our
               Epistle
               .
            
             The
             Apostle
             gives
             command
             to
             the
             Church
             that
             they
             should
             hold
             the
             Traditions
             ;
             nor
             that
             I
             do
             approve
             of
             vain
             
               Traditions
               ,
            
             which
             are
             the
             Commandements
             of
             Men
             ;
             But
             such
             
               Traditions
            
             as
             are
             
               Apostolical
               ;
            
             delivered
             by
             the
             
               Apostles
            
             themselves
             ,
             are
             to
             be
             held
             by
             the
             Church
             :
             even
             as
             those
             things
             which
             were
             delivered
             in
             writing
             .
             As
             
               Apostolical
               Traditions
            
             are
             to
             be
             kept
             and
             hold
             ;
             and
             so
             Lawfull
             .
             But
             the
             Baptisme
             of
             Infants
             is
             an
             
               Apostolical
               Tradition
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             I
             deny
             the
             minor
             ,
             Baptisme
             of
             Infants
             is
             no
             
               Apostolical
               Tradition
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             
               Augustin
            
             saith
             that
             the
             Church
             always
             held
             it
             from
             the
             
               Apostles
            
             times
             :
             meaning
             the
             Baptisme
             of
             Infants
             :
             the
             same
             is
             generally
             acknowledged
             by
             the
             Ancients
             ;
             whose
             severall
             Testimonies
             I
             can
             produce
             here
             .
          
        
         
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             This
             was
             
               Austins
            
             opinion
             .
             And
             yet
             notwithstanding
             
               Erasmus
            
             who
             Laboured
             much
             in
             
               Austin
               :
            
             and
             
               Ludovicus
               Vives
               ,
            
             who
             was
             very
             well
             skilled
             in
             his
             Doctrine
             ;
             neither
             of
             these
             beleeved
             the
             thing
             to
             be
             true
             ;
             neither
             were
             they
             convinced
             by
             his
             opinion
             :
             but
             both
             of
             them
             thought
             the
             contrary
             ,
             Moreover
             you
             know
             what
             I
             have
             told
             you
             before
             out
             of
             
               Tertullian
               ,
            
             and
             
               Gregory
               Nazianzen
               :
            
             I
             think
             it
             needless
             to
             repeat
             the
             same
             things
             again
             .
          
        
         
           
             B
             
          
           
             After
             this
             there
             followed
             another
             argument
             ,
             which
             was
             altogether
             the
             same
             with
             the
             first
             :
             and
             therefore
             I
             shall
             not
             repeat
             it
             unto
             you
             .
             Thus
             ended
             the
             Dispute
             of
             the
             first
             day
             of
             meeting
             :
             It
             was
             then
             concluded
             that
             they
             should
             meet
             again
             the
             next
             week
             ,
             upon
             the
             same
             day
             .
          
        
         
         
           
             B
             
          
           
             ON
             the
             second
             day
             being
             the
             26th
             day
             of
             
               November
               ,
            
             the
             Disputants
             met
             together
             again
             :
             at
             which
             time
             ,
             
               Mr.
               Denne
            
             was
             the
             Opponent
             ,
             and
             
               Mr.
               
               Gunning
            
             the
             Respondent
             :
             who
             having
             taken
             his
             place
             ,
             Began
             to
             speak
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             One
             who
             desires
             to
             be
             informed
             touching
             the
             Baptisme
             of
             Infants
             ,
             whether
             it
             be
             Lawfull
             or
             Unlawfull
             :
             I
             affirm
             the
             Baptisme
             of
             Infants
             to
             be
             Lawfull
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             I
             will
             prove
             the
             Baptisme
             of
             Infants
             to
             be
             Vnlawfull
             .
             If
             the
             Baptisme
             of
             Infants
             be
             Lawfull
             ;
             it
             is
             either
             for
             some
             reasons
             delivered
             by
             you
             ,
             or
             some
             other
             :
             But
             not
             for
             any
             reason
             delivered
             by
             you
             ,
             or
             any
             other
             :
             therefore
             the
             Baptisme
             of
             Infants
             is
             not
             Lawfull
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             The
             minor
             is
             denied
             :
             Infants
             Baptisme
             is
             Lawfull
             ,
             for
             reasons
             by
             me
             delivered
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             If
             it
             be
             Lawfull
             for
             reasons
             by
             you
             delivered
             ;
             Then
             it
             is
             either
             for
             the
             reasons
             delivered
             from
             
               Tradition
               ,
            
             or
             from
             
               Scripture
               :
            
             but
             neither
             for
             the
             reasons
             from
             
               Tradition
               ,
            
             nor
             from
             
               Scripture
               :
            
             Therefore
             it
             is
             not
             Lawfull
             for
             any
             reasons
             delivered
             by
             you
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             For
             both
             ,
             namely
             ,
             both
             from
             
               Tradition
               ,
            
             and
             from
             
               Scripture
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             If
             one
             of
             these
             reasons
             overthrow
             the
             other
             ,
             then
             it
             cannot
             be
             Lawfull
             for
             both
             :
             But
             one
             of
             these
             reasons
             overthrow
             the
             other
             :
             Therefore
             it
             cannot
             be
             Lawfull
             for
             Both
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             I
             deny
             the
             minor
             ,
             one
             of
             them
             doth
             not
             overthrow
             the
             other
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             If
             
               Tradition
            
             overthrow
             your
             Scripture
             reasons
             ,
             then
             one
             overthrows
             the
             other
             :
             But
             
               Tradition
            
             overthrows
             your
             Scripture
             reasons
             .
             Therefore
             one
             overthrows
             the
             other
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             Tradition
             doth
             not
             overthrow
             Scripture
             reasons
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             It
             is
             generally
             held
             by
             the
             
               Tradition
            
             of
             the
             Ancients
             that
             Baptisme
             of
             Infants
             cannot
             be
             proved
             by
             Scripture
             :
             and
             the
             most
             part
             of
             those
             that
             maintained
             the
             Baptisme
             
             of
             Infants
             ,
             did
             acknowledge
             that
             it
             could
             not
             be
             proved
             by
             
               Scripture
               ,
            
             but
             
               Tradition
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             I
             deny
             it
             ,
             for
             
               Tertullian
            
             and
             
               Austin
               ,
            
             do
             both
             prove
             it
             by
             Scripture
             :
             for
             
               Tertullian
            
             interpreting
             these
             words
             of
             
               St.
               John
               ,
               Except
               a
               man
               be
               born
               again
               of
               Water
               ,
               and
               of
               the
               Spirit
               ,
               he
               cannot
               enter
               into
               the
               Kingdome
               of
               Heaven
               :
            
             sayth
             ,
             that
             to
             be
             born
             again
             of
             Water
             and
             of
             the
             Spirit
             ,
             is
             to
             be
             Baptised
             :
             except
             a
             man
             be
             Baptised
             ,
             he
             cannot
             enter
             into
             the
             Kingdome
             of
             Heaven
             .
             And
             
               St.
               Austin
            
             sayth
             the
             same
             ,
             in
             divers
             places
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             As
             for
             
               Tertullian
               ,
            
             he
             is
             not
             to
             be
             reckoned
             among
             the
             Men
             that
             maintained
             the
             Baptisme
             of
             Infants
             ▪
             for
             without
             doubt
             he
             opposed
             it
             :
             And
             you
             your self
             did
             say
             when
             I
             alledged
             
               Tertullians
            
             words
             ,
             that
             He
             was
             an
             
               Heretique
               :
            
             As
             for
             
               Austin
               ,
            
             it
             was
             his
             authority
             that
             I
             intended
             to
             alledge
             :
             who
             hath
             these
             words
             :
             Take
             away
             Tradition
             ,
             and
             the
             Baptisme
             of
             Infants
             will
             fall
             to
             the
             ground
             .
             The
             like
             may
             be
             found
             in
             most
             authors
             of
             former
             ages
             .
             You
             know
             this
             to
             be
             true
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             They
             did
             not
             hereby
             deny
             the
             validity
             of
             the
             Scripture
             ,
             to
             prove
             Infants
             Baptisme
             :
             but
             their
             meaning
             was
             ,
             That
             without
             Tradition
             the
             sence
             and
             meaning
             of
             the
             Scripture
             could
             not
             appear
             :
             as
             ,
             
               Except
               a
               Man
               be
               born
               again
               of
               Water
               and
               of
               the
               Spirit
               ,
               he
               cannot
               enter
               into
               the
               Kingdome
               of
               God
               :
            
             we
             could
             not
             have
             known
             ,
             that
             to
             be
             born
             again
             of
             Water
             ,
             had
             meant
             to
             be
             Baptised
             ,
             unless
             Tradition
             had
             given
             this
             interpretation
             of
             that
             TEXT
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             Then
             you
             grant
             that
             without
             interpretation
             beyond
             the
             letter
             ,
             Infants
             Baptisme
             is
             not
             to
             be
             found
             in
             Scripture
             .
             I
             will
             leave
             this
             ,
             and
             come
             to
             your
             Scripture
             reasons
             .
             And
             first
             for
             your
             great
             Piller
             
               John
            
             3.
             
             I
             argue
             thus
             .
             If
             Infants
             cannot
             be
             born
             again
             of
             Water
             and
             of
             the
             Spirit
             (
             while
             they
             remain
             Infants
             )
             then
             this
             reason
             of
             yours
             is
             voyd
             :
             but
             Infants
             ,
             while
             they
             remain
             Infants
             ,
             cannot
             be
             born
             again
             of
             Water
             and
             of
             the
             Spirit
             .
             Therefore
             this
             reason
             of
             yours
             is
             voyd
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             Infants
             can
             be
             born
             again
             of
             Water
             and
             of
             the
             Spirit
             .
          
        
         
         
           
             Opp.
             
          
           
             If
             Infants
             be
             born
             again
             of
             Water
             and
             of
             the
             Spirit
             ;
             then
             are
             they
             Spirit
             ,
             and
             born
             of
             God
             :
             but
             Infants
             are
             not
             Spirit
             ,
             neither
             born
             of
             God
             :
             therefore
             are
             they
             not
             born
             again
             of
             Water
             ,
             and
             of
             the
             Spirit
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             I
             deny
             the
             minor
             :
             Infants
             are
             
               Spirit
               ,
               and
               born
               of
               God
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             First
             ,
             I
             will
             prove
             Infants
             are
             not
             Spirit
             .
             In
             every
             one
             that
             is
             Spirit
             or
             born
             of
             the
             Spirit
             ,
             there
             is
             some
             evident
             demonstration
             and
             alteration
             whereby
             they
             may
             be
             known
             to
             be
             born
             of
             the
             Spirit
             :
             But
             in
             Infants
             there
             is
             no
             alteration
             nor
             evident
             demonstration
             whereby
             they
             may
             be
             known
             to
             be
             born
             of
             the
             Spirit
             ,
             or
             to
             be
             Spirit
             :
             Therefore
             they
             are
             neither
             Spirit
             ,
             nor
             born
             of
             the
             Spirit
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             That
             Infants
             are
             born
             of
             the
             Spirit
             ,
             is
             
               de
               fide
               ,
            
             a
             matter
             of
             Faith
             ;
             and
             that
             is
             far
             above
             all
             demonstration
             :
             it
             is
             not
             necessary
             that
             there
             should
             be
             a
             demonstration
             ,
             whereby
             every
             one
             that
             is
             born
             of
             the
             Spirit
             should
             be
             manifested
             so
             to
             be
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             Then
             are
             they
             not
             like
             the
             Wind
             :
             which
             though
             we
             know
             not
             whence
             it
             comes
             ,
             nor
             whether
             it
             goes
             ;
             yet
             we
             hear
             the
             sound
             ,
             and
             feel
             the
             effect
             :
             and
             the
             
               TEXT
            
             saith
             ,
             
               So
               is
               every
               one
               that
               is
               born
               of
               the
               Spirit
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             We
             know
             not
             whence
             the
             wind
             commeth
             ,
             nor
             whether
             it
             goeth
             :
             so
             we
             know
             not
             the
             manner
             how
             ,
             but
             yet
             we
             have
             it
             
               de
               fide
            
             Faith
             without
             ground
             is
             but
             fancy
             ,
             and
             no
             Faith
             :
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             But
             I
             will
             prove
             in
             the
             next
             place
             ,
             that
             Infants
             are
             not
             born
             of
             God
             ,
             though
             I
             account
             them
             the
             happiest
             of
             Living
             Creatures
             .
             If
             Infants
             be
             born
             of
             God
             ,
             then
             they
             overcome
             the
             World
             :
             But
             Infants
             do
             not
             overcome
             the
             World
             :
             therefore
             they
             are
             not
             born
             of
             God
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             It
             sufficeth
             that
             Infants
             are
             not
             overcome
             by
             the
             World
             :
             the
             World
             doth
             not
             combate
             with
             them
             :
             
               Name
               your
            
             TEXT
             .
          
        
         
           
             Opp.
             
          
           
             
               If
               there
               be
               no
               combate
               ;
               there
               can
               be
               no
               Conquest
               .
               But
               the
            
             TEXT
             
               saith
            
             1.
             
             John
             5.
             4.
             
             Whatsoever
             is
             born
             of
             God
             ,
             overcommeth
             the
             World
             .
             &c.
             
          
        
         
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             It
             appeareth
             by
             the
             Context
             ,
             that
             this
             is
             not
             to
             be
             understood
             of
             Children
             ,
             but
             of
             Men
             and
             Women
             ;
             of
             such
             as
             Love
             God
             and
             keep
             his
             Commandements
             ,
             of
             such
             as
             beleeve
             in
             God
             ,
             and
             by
             Faith
             have
             Victory
             over
             the
             World
             :
             
               Who
               is
               he
               that
               overcommeth
               the
               World
               ,
               but
               he
               that
               beleeveth
               that
               Jesus
               is
               the
               Son
               of
               God
               ?
            
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             These
             words
             are
             not
             to
             the
             purpose
             ,
             I
             do
             not
             say
             they
             are
             meant
             of
             Children
             .
             But
             I
             say
             they
             are
             meant
             of
             every
             thing
             that
             is
             
               Born
               of
               God
               :
            
             every
             thing
             that
             is
             
               Born
               of
               God
               ,
               overcommeth
               the
               World
               ▪
            
             Children
             do
             not
             overcome
             the
             World
             .
             Therefore
             they
             are
             not
             born
             of
             God
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             Every
             thing
             in
             the
             TEXT
             must
             be
             extended
             no
             further
             then
             to
             such
             to
             whom
             the
             Apostle
             wrote
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             I
             say
             the
             same
             thing
             :
             this
             answers
             not
             the
             force
             of
             the
             argument
             at
             all
             .
             I
             will
             prove
             by
             another
             argument
             that
             Children
             cannot
             be
             born
             again
             ,
             &c.
             
             If
             Infants
             be
             born
             of
             Water
             and
             of
             the
             Spirit
             ,
             then
             are
             they
             Church
             members
             ,
             and
             Sons
             and
             Daughters
             of
             the
             New
             Covenant
             :
             But
             Infants
             are
             not
             Church
             members
             ,
             nor
             Sons
             and
             Daughters
             of
             the
             New
             Covenant
             .
             Therefore
             they
             are
             not
             born
             again
             of
             Water
             ,
             &c.
             
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             The
             minor
             is
             denyed
             :
             Infants
             are
             Church
             members
             ,
             and
             Sons
             of
             the
             New
             Covenant
             .
          
        
         
           
             Opp.
             
          
           
             If
             Infants
             be
             Church
             members
             ,
             and
             Sons
             of
             the
             New
             Covenant
             ,
             then
             they
             so
             know
             the
             Lord
             as
             not
             to
             need
             any
             teacher
             :
             But
             Infants
             do
             not
             so
             know
             the
             Lord
             as
             not
             to
             need
             a
             teacher
             :
             therefore
             Infants
             are
             not
             Church
             members
             ,
             nor
             Sons
             of
             the
             New
             Covenant
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             The
             consequence
             is
             denyed
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             If
             all
             the
             Church
             members
             and
             Children
             of
             the
             New
             Covenant
             do
             so
             know
             the
             Lord
             ,
             as
             not
             to
             have
             need
             to
             be
             taught
             to
             know
             the
             Lord
             :
             then
             the
             Consequence
             is
             true
             .
             But
             all
             Church
             members
             ,
             and
             the
             Children
             of
             the
             New
             Covenant
             ,
             do
             so
             know
             the
             Lord
             ,
             as
             not
             to
             have
             need
             to
             be
             taught
             to
             know
             the
             Lord
             :
             Therefore
             the
             consequence
             is
             true
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             The
             minor
             is
             denyed
             ;
             all
             the
             Church
             members
             and
             
             Children
             of
             the
             new
             Covenant
             do
             not
             so
             know
             the
             Lord
             ,
             as
             not
             to
             need
             to
             be
             taught
             to
             know
             the
             Lord
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             
               The
               minor
               is
               proved
               ,
            
             Heb.
             8
             ▪
             8
             ,
             9
             ▪
             10
             ,
             11.
             verses
             :
             Jer
             ,
             31.
             33
             ,
             34.
             verses
             :
             This
             is
             the
             Covenant
             that
             I
             will
             make
             with
             the
             House
             of
             Israel
             ,
             after
             those
             dayes
             saith
             the
             Lord
             .
             I
             will
             put
             my
             Laws
             into
             their
             mind
             ,
             and
             write
             them
             in
             their
             Hearts
             ,
             and
             I
             will
             be
             to
             them
             a
             God
             ,
             and
             they
             shall
             be
             to
             me
             a
             People
             :
             and
             they
             shall
             not
             teach
             every
             Man
             his
             Neighbour
             ,
             and
             every
             Man
             his
             Brother
             ;
             saying
             know
             the
             Lord
             :
             for
             all
             shall
             know
             me
             ,
             from
             the
             least
             to
             the
             greatest
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             They
             shall
             not
             teach
             every
             Man
             his
             Neighbour
             ,
             and
             every
             one
             his
             Brother
             ;
             that
             is
             ,
             they
             shall
             not
             be
             all
             Teachers
             ,
             
               James
               3.
               
               My
               Brethren
               be
               not
               many
               Masters
               .
            
             
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
            
             ,
             that
             is
             Teachers
             :
             every
             one
             should
             not
             be
             a
             Teacher
             ,
             to
             run
             before
             he
             be
             sent
             ,
             and
             intrude
             into
             the
             Office
             without
             a
             Lawfull
             call
             :
             for
             no
             Man
             taketh
             this
             Office
             upon
             him
             ,
             but
             he
             that
             is
             called
             of
             God
             ,
             Again
             we
             know
             that
             not
             only
             Children
             ,
             but
             Beleevers
             ,
             Men
             ,
             and
             Women
             need
             teaching
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             I
             am
             ashamed
             of
             your
             Interpretation
             of
             this
             
               TEXT
               ,
            
             so
             far
             from
             the
             truth
             ,
             (
             and
             I
             am
             perswaded
             )
             from
             your
             own
             Conscience
             .
             Would
             you
             not
             have
             Christians
             to
             teach
             ,
             and
             exhort
             ,
             and
             edifie
             one
             another
             ?
             What
             manner
             of
             Spirit
             is
             this
             ?
             You
             say
             all
             need
             teaching
             :
             so
             say
             I
             also
             :
             But
             there
             are
             some
             things
             that
             the
             Children
             of
             the
             new
             Covenant
             need
             not
             be
             taught
             ,
             
               Ye
               need
               not
               that
               any
               Man
               teach
               you
               :
               1.
               
               John
            
             2.
             27.
             and
             that
             is
             to
             know
             the
             Lord
             ,
             which
             is
             rendred
             a
             reason
             of
             the
             first
             words
             ;
             they
             shall
             all
             know
             me
             ,
             from
             the
             least
             to
             the
             greatest
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             This
             word
             All
             ,
             doth
             not
             include
             Children
             Infants
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             I
             do
             not
             say
             it
             doth
             ,
             but
             it
             includes
             all
             Church
             members
             ,
             and
             Children
             of
             the
             new
             Covenant
             ,
             from
             the
             least
             to
             the
             greatest
             :
             Least
             and
             greatest
             and
             middle
             ;
             and
             all
             Church
             members
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             You
             insist
             much
             upon
             the
             word
             All
             ,
             All
             .
             When
             the
             word
             All
             hath
             his
             restriction
             in
             many
             places
             of
             Scripture
             ,
             
             
               1.
               Cor.
               15.
               27.
               
               It
               is
               manifest
               that
               he
               is
               excepted
               ,
               which
               did
               put
               all
               things
               under
               him
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             I
             do
             not
             marvil
             that
             you
             so
             much
             except
             against
             me
             for
             insisting
             upon
             the
             word
             All
             :
             and
             whereas
             you
             say
             the
             word
             All
             hath
             restriction
             in
             Scripture
             :
             I
             do
             not
             deny
             it
             :
             but
             to
             prevent
             a
             restriction
             in
             this
             place
             ,
             there
             is
             added
             ;
             from
             the
             Least
             to
             the
             Greatest
             .
             I
             leave
             this
             to
             consideration
             and
             proceed
             .
             If
             Children
             be
             born
             of
             Water
             ,
             and
             of
             the
             Spirit
             ,
             and
             be
             made
             Church
             members
             ;
             then
             are
             they
             Disciples
             :
             But
             Children
             are
             not
             ,
             nor
             cannot
             be
             Disciples
             :
             therefore
             they
             cannot
             be
             born
             again
             of
             Water
             ,
             and
             of
             the
             Spirit
             ,
             &c.
             
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             The
             minor
             is
             denyed
             ▪
             Infants
             may
             be
             Disciples
             ,
             and
             are
             Disciples
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             If
             all
             Disciples
             must
             hate
             Father
             and
             Mother
             ,
             and
             Life
             ,
             for
             Christ
             ,
             and
             take
             up
             their
             cross
             ,
             and
             follow
             Christ
             :
             then
             Infants
             who
             are
             not
             able
             to
             do
             these
             things
             ,
             cannot
             be
             Disciples
             But
             all
             Disciples
             must
             hate
             Father
             and
             Mother
             ,
             and
             Life
             ,
             for
             Christ
             ;
             and
             must
             take
             up
             their
             cross
             ,
             and
             follow
             Christ
             .
             Therefore
             Infants
             cannot
             be
             Disciples
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             The
             minor
             is
             denyed
             ,
             It
             is
             not
             required
             in
             every
             Disciple
             to
             hate
             Father
             and
             Mother
             ,
             and
             Life
             ;
             or
             to
             take
             up
             his
             cross
             and
             follow
             Christ
             :
             but
             of
             such
             Disciples
             as
             are
             of
             years
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             The
             minor
             is
             proved
             in
             every
             part
             of
             it
             ,
             by
             plain
             
               TEXT
            
             of
             Scripture
             ;
             
               Mat.
               16.
               24.
               
               Luke
               14.
               26
               ,
               27.
               
               If
               any
               Man
               come
               unto
               me
            
             (
             here
             is
             your
             
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
            
             so
             often
             alledged
             )
             and
             hate
             not
             his
             Father
             ,
             and
             Mother
             ,
             and
             Wife
             and
             Children
             ,
             and
             Brethren
             and
             Sisters
             ;
             yea
             and
             his
             own
             Life
             also
             ,
             he
             cannot
             be
             my
             Disciple
             :
             and
             whosoever
             doth
             not
             bear
             his
             cross
             ,
             and
             come
             after
             me
             ;
             cannot
             be
             my
             Disciple
             ,
             Many
             
               TEXTS
            
             of
             the
             like
             kind
             there
             are
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             If
             any
             One
             and
             Whosoever
             ,
             doth
             not
             include
             Children
             ,
             But
             the
             multitudes
             that
             went
             with
             him
             ,
             to
             whom
             he
             spake
             ,
             
               vers.
               25th
               .
            
             and
             in
             the
             
               28th
               .
               vers.
               Which
               of
               you
               ,
               intending
               to
               build
               a
               Tower
               ,
               &c.
            
             he
             speaks
             of
             all
             them
             that
             are
             Capable
             to
             hear
             him
             ,
             and
             to
             understand
             him
             .
          
        
         
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             Take
             notice
             that
             this
             is
             a
             weapon
             of
             your
             own
             ,
             that
             I
             do
             oppose
             you
             with
             :
             and
             consider
             how
             strange
             a
             thing
             you
             presented
             it
             to
             the
             People
             ,
             that
             I
             should
             restrain
             that
             place
             of
             the
             third
             of
             
               John
               ,
               Except
               any
               one
               be
               born
               again
               .
            
             And
             you
             your self
             are
             forced
             to
             restrain
             this
             ,
             where
             the
             very
             same
             word
             is
             used
             .
             I
             demand
             whether
             the
             proposition
             laid
             down
             in
             the
             
               TEXT
            
             be
             true
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             You
             did
             restrain
             it
             ,
             but
             you
             gave
             no
             reason
             of
             your
             restraining
             it
             :
             But
             I
             have
             good
             reason
             in
             the
             Context
             why
             it
             should
             be
             restrained
             .
             Do
             you
             shew
             as
             good
             reason
             as
             I
             have
             done
             already
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             I
             have
             shewed
             reasons
             equal
             with
             yours
             .
             You
             say
             Christ
             spake
             to
             the
             multitudes
             which
             followed
             him
             :
             I
             say
             Christ
             spake
             to
             
               Nicodemus
               ,
            
             who
             come
             to
             him
             ,
             to
             enquire
             of
             the
             wayes
             of
             God
             for
             himself
             .
             Besides
             ,
             be
             pleased
             to
             remember
             that
             the
             restraint
             of
             the
             word
             was
             not
             my
             sole
             answer
             :
             But
             I
             gave
             you
             answer
             taking
             it
             in
             the
             largest
             sence
             :
             I
             gave
             you
             three
             answers
             ;
             you
             give
             only
             this
             .
          
           
             Another
             argument
             .
             If
             it
             be
             a
             sin
             in
             Parents
             to
             require
             Baptisme
             for
             ,
             or
             in
             the
             behalf
             of
             their
             Infants
             ;
             then
             the
             Baptisme
             of
             Infants
             is
             Vnlawfull
             ;
             But
             it
             is
             a
             sin
             in
             Parents
             to
             require
             Baptisme
             in
             the
             behalf
             of
             their
             Infants
             .
             Therefore
             the
             Baptisme
             of
             Infants
             is
             Vnlawfull
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             It
             is
             not
             a
             sin
             in
             Parents
             to
             require
             Baptisme
             for
             their
             Infants
             .
             But
             a
             thing
             Commendable
             ,
             and
             good
             .
          
        
         
           
             Opp.
             
          
           
             If
             Parents
             have
             no
             Command
             nor
             Commission
             from
             God
             to
             require
             Baptisme
             for
             Infants
             ;
             then
             it
             is
             a
             sin
             in
             them
             to
             require
             it
             for
             Infants
             :
             but
             Parents
             have
             neither
             Command
             nor
             Commission
             from
             God
             to
             require
             it
             for
             their
             Children
             :
             therefore
             it
             is
             a
             sin
             in
             Parents
             to
             require
             Baptisme
             for
             their
             Infants
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             Parents
             have
             a
             Commission
             from
             God
             ,
             to
             require
             Baptisme
             for
             their
             Infants
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             Shew
             us
             a
             Commission
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             
               Mat.
               28.
               19.
               
               Make
               Disciples
               of
               all
               Nations
               ,
               Baptising
               them
               in
               the
               name
               of
               the
               Father
               ,
               and
               of
               the
               Son
               and
               of
               the
               Holy
               Ghost
               .
               Teaching
               them
               to
               observe
               all
               things
               
               that
               I
               have
               Commanded
               you
               ;
               and
               lo
               I
               am
               with
               you
               always
               ,
               even
               to
               the
               end
               of
               the
               World
               ,
            
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             Here
             is
             no
             Commission
             to
             Parents
             ;
             but
             only
             to
             the
             Apostles
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             The
             Apostles
             are
             here
             commanded
             to
             teach
             them
             to
             observe
             all
             things
             which
             Christ
             Commanded
             them
             ;
             They
             are
             sent
             into
             the
             World
             to
             teach
             those
             that
             are
             of
             years
             :
             and
             make
             them
             willing
             and
             then
             to
             Baptise
             them
             :
             and
             as
             for
             Children
             ,
             to
             make
             them
             Disciples
             by
             Baptising
             of
             them
             ,
             and
             to
             teach
             the
             Parents
             to
             require
             Baptisme
             for
             their
             Children
             ,
             that
             thereby
             they
             may
             be
             made
             Disciples
             ,
             though
             they
             be
             not
             Capable
             of
             teaching
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             You
             have
             often
             urged
             me
             with
             antiquity
             :
             and
             charged
             me
             with
             novelty
             ,
             I
             do
             now
             justly
             charge
             you
             with
             a
             
               Novel
            
             interpretation
             of
             the
             Scripture
             :
             Not
             above
             twenty
             years
             old
             at
             the
             most
             ,
             
               viz.
            
             that
             the
             meaning
             of
             the
             
               TEXT
            
             alledged
             should
             be
             this
             ,
             
               Make
               them
               Disciples
               by
               Baptising
               them
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             This
             is
             ancient
             and
             the
             Fathers
             did
             understand
             this
             TEXT
             so
             .
             But
             as
             for
             your
             opinion
             it
             was
             not
             heard
             of
             ,
             little
             above
             500
             years
             ago
             .
             Then
             there
             rose
             up
             on
             
               Henricus
            
             that
             denyed
             the
             Baptisme
             of
             Infants
             ;
             They
             that
             followed
             him
             were
             called
             
               Henricians
               ,
            
             and
             he
             and
             his
             followers
             were
             condemned
             for
             Heretiques
             ,
             and
             excommunicated
             for
             their
             Heresie
             .
          
        
         
           
             A
             
          
           
             Have
             patience
             I
             pray
             you
             ,
             and
             bear
             with
             me
             a
             little
             .
             I
             desire
             to
             understand
             the
             whole
             matter
             of
             these
             Heretiques
             ,
             and
             Heresies
             ;
             and
             by
             whom
             they
             were
             comdemned
             and
             excommunicated
             :
             for
             this
             will
             give
             me
             satisfaction
             in
             some
             things
             .
          
        
         
           
             B
             
          
           
             I
             will
             declare
             the
             matter
             from
             the
             beginning
             of
             it
             .
             About
             the
             year
             1047.
             there
             reigned
             in
             Germany
             
               Henry
               ,
            
             the
             third
             King
             ;
             who
             held
             two
             grand
             Heresies
             (
             as
             the
             Pope
             and
             his
             followers
             were
             pleased
             to
             stile
             them
             )
             the
             one
             was
             detected
             ,
             
               viz.
               
               That
               Church
               Lands
               ,
               and
               Church-men
               were
               subject
               to
               his
               Jurisdiction
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             A
             
          
           
             This
             was
             his
             detected
             heresie
             :
             What
             was
             the
             other
             suspected
             ?
          
        
         
           
             B
             
          
           
             
               De
               Baptismo
               parvultorum
               perperam
               sonsisse
               Creditur
               .
            
             He
             was
             suspected
             to
             have
             an
             evill
             opinion
             of
             the
             Baptisme
             of
             Infants
             ,
             from
             this
             
               Henry
            
             the
             third
             ,
             King
             ;
             who
             was
             afterward
             Emperour
             the
             second
             of
             that
             name
             ,
             Began
             the
             
               Henrician
            
             heresie
             .
             After
             him
             succeeded
             (
             not
             in
             the
             Empire
             ,
             but
             )
             in
             opinion
             :
             
               Peter
               de
               Bruis
               .
            
             His
             opinions
             laid
             to
             his
             charge
             ,
             were
             ,
             
               1.
               
               That
               Infants
               could
               not
               be
               saved
               by
               Baptisme
               :
               2.
               
               That
               the
               faith
               of
               other
               men
               could
               not
               stand
               them
               in
               stead
               ,
               that
               had
               no
               faith
               of
               their
               own
               .
               3.
               
               That
               crosses
               were
               to
               be
               pluck
               down
               ,
               and
               burned
               .
               4.
               
               That
               the
               Body
               and
               bloud
               of
               Christ
               was
               not
               really
               or
               corporally
               present
               in
               the
               Sacrament
               .
               5.
               
               That
               the
               Sacrament
               was
               not
               a
               Sacrifice
               to
               be
               offered
               to
               God
               .
               6.
               
               That
               Prayers
               and
               Alms
               made
               ,
               and
               given
               by
               the
               living
               ,
               did
               not
               profit
               the
               dead
               .
               7.
               
               That
               Christians
               had
               no
               need
               of
               consecrated
               places
               to
               Worship
               God
               in
               ,
               neither
               need
               they
               to
               build
               any
               .
               8.
               
               Vpon
               the
               Lords
               day
               before
               Easter
               ,
               He
               invited
               much
               People
               to
               a
               feast
               ,
               and
               dressed
               his
               meat
               with
               a
               fire
               made
               of
               woodden
               crosses
               .
            
             After
             this
             man
             in
             the
             Year
             1147.
             there
             arose
             one
             
               Henricus
            
             a
             Monk
             ,
             (
             which
             is
             the
             man
             spoken
             of
             by
             the
             answerer
             )
             who
             was
             accused
             of
             
               Heresieby
            
             his
             adversaries
             :
             His
             heresies
             (
             as
             they
             termed
             them
             )
             were
             these
             .
             First
             ,
             
               Infants
               are
               not
               to
               be
               Baptised
               .
               2.
               
               The
               cross
               of
               Christ
               is
               not
               to
               be
               Worshipped
               .
               3.
               
               The
               Body
               of
               Christ
               is
               not
               in
               the
               Sacrament
               of
               the
               Eucharist
               .
               4.
               
               It
               is
               in
               vain
               to
               pray
               for
               the
               
               dead
               .
               5.
               
               God
               is
               provoked
               to
               wrath
               ,
               by
               Church
               musick
               .
            
             This
             was
             the
             
               Henrician
            
             Heresy
             in
             the
             full
             :
             They
             who
             did
             condemn
             and
             excommunicate
             these
             Men
             ,
             were
             the
             
               Pope
               ,
            
             his
             
               Cardinalls
               ,
            
             andCouncell
             
               ;
            
             and
             
               Bernard
               ,
            
             the
             fairest
             flower
             among
             them
             .
          
        
         
           
             A
             
          
           
             Surely
             ,
             I
             beleeve
             the
             same
             persons
             would
             have
             comdemned
             ,
             this
             Answerer
             also
             :
             forasmuch
             as
             he
             also
             is
             guilty
             of
             some
             of
             their
             opinions
             ,
             for
             which
             they
             were
             condemned
             .
          
        
         
           
             B
             
          
           
             That
             is
             true
             enough
             :
             I
             therefore
             wonder
             why
             he
             did
             instance
             in
             these
             persons
             .
             But
             I
             will
             return
             to
             the
             Disputation
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             I
             will
             prove
             that
             this
             interpretation
             of
             the
             place
             alledged
             ,
             cannot
             be
             true
             :
             
               viz.
            
             to
             make
             Disciples
             by
             Baptising
             :
             
               First
            
             By
             the
             Grammaticall
             Construction
             of
             the
             place
             .
             
               Secondly
            
             By
             the
             general
             Consent
             of
             Translators
             .
             
               Thirdly
               ,
            
             By
             the
             ●cripture
             Compared
             with
             this
             place
             .
             And
             
               Fourthly
            
             by
             the
             practice
             of
             the
             Apostles
             ;
             who
             were
             the
             persons
             executing
             this
             Commission
             :
             Make
             Disciples
             of
             all
             Nations
             ,
             Baptising
             them
             :
             
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
            
             I
             demand
             what
             is
             the
             antecedent
             to
             the
             relative
             
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
            
             if
             
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
            
             not
             understood
             in
             the
             word
             
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
            
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
            
             Nations
             is
             the
             anticedent
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             That
             cannot
             be
             :
             for
             then
             the
             Commission
             should
             be
             this
             :
             make
             the
             Nations
             Disciples
             ,
             by
             Baptising
             them
             :
             and
             you
             have
             granted
             ,
             that
             this
             Commission
             doth
             not
             extend
             to
             all
             in
             the
             Nations
             ;
             but
             only
             to
             such
             as
             are
             willing
             .
             
               Secondly
            
             
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
            
             is
             the
             
               Newter
               gender
               ,
            
             and
             
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
            
             the
             
               Masculine
               ;
            
             how
             do
             they
             agree
             ?
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             It
             is
             a
             figure
             called
             
               Synthesis
               ,
            
             wherein
             one
             gender
             is
             put
             for
             another
             :
             which
             is
             frequent
             in
             the
             new
             Testament
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             I
             do
             not
             remember
             any
             place
             ,
             neither
             do
             I
             beleeve
             any
             parallel
             place
             can
             be
             shewed
             out
             of
             the
             new
             Testament
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             Although
             I
             do
             not
             carry
             a
             Concordance
             in
             my
             head
             ,
             
             yet
             I
             can
             shew
             you
             one
             place
             in
             
               John
            
             14.
             26.
             
             
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
            
             and
             here
             the
             Relative
             
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
            
             hath
             for
             his
             antecedent
             
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
            
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             It
             is
             nothing
             so
             ,
             for
             the
             anticedent
             is
             
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
            
             in
             the
             beginning
             of
             the
             vers
             .
             and
             the
             words
             between
             
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
            
             and
             
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
            
             are
             a
             
               Parenthesis
               ,
            
             and
             may
             be
             omitted
             without
             breaking
             the
             sence
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             Is
             the
             
               Parenthesis
            
             noted
             in
             your
             Book
             ?
          
        
         
           
             Opp.
             
          
           
             No
             ,
             But
             your
             consience
             tells
             you
             it
             ought
             to
             be
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             I
             will
             give
             you
             another
             place
             ,
             
               Ephesi
               .
            
             1.
             13
             ,
             14.
             
             
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
            
             Here
             
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
            
             hath
             ,
             
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
            
             for
             his
             antecedent
             ,
             this
             is
             a
             plain
             
               Synthesis
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             It
             is
             so
             ,
             because
             of
             the
             word
             
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
            
             understood
             .
          
           
             What
             is
             the
             earnest
             of
             the
             inheritance
             ?
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
            
             
               The
               Spirit
               of
               God
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             A
             
          
           
             Here
             the
             Respondent
             speaketh
             not
             punctually
             ,
             according
             to
             the
             truth
             :
             for
             here
             the
             Relative
             
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
            
             comming
             between
             two
             words
             of
             different
             genders
             ,
             it
             may
             accord
             with
             either
             :
             So
             that
             according
             to
             rule
             ,
             it
             may
             be
             either
             
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
               {non-Roman}
            
             ,
             and
             in
             my
             judgement
             ,
             this
             is
             as
             little
             to
             the
             purpose
             as
             the
             other
             :
             for
             here
             is
             no
             
               Synthesis
            
             in
             either
             of
             these
             two
             places
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             I
             will
             prove
             that
             the
             commission
             in
             the
             28th
             .
             of
             
               Mat.
            
             cannot
             be
             a
             warrant
             for
             Parents
             to
             require
             Baptisme
             for
             their
             Children
             .
             If
             the
             
               TEXT
            
             do
             require
             teaching
             before
             Baptising
             ,
             then
             it
             can
             be
             no
             warrant
             to
             Baptise
             Children
             who
             cannot
             be
             taught
             :
             but
             the
             
               TEXT
            
             requires
             teaching
             before
             Baptising
             .
             Therefore
             that
             can
             be
             no
             warrant
             to
             Baptise
             Children
             ,
             or
             require
             Baptisme
             for
             them
             ,
             before
             they
             can
             be
             taught
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             I
             deny
             the
             minor
             ,
             the
             TEXT
             in
             the
             28th
             .
             of
             
               Mat.
               
            
             Go
             Disciple
             all
             Nations
             ,
             doth
             not
             require
             teaching
             before
             Baptising
             ,
             in
             all
             persons
             :
             indeed
             in
             those
             that
             are
             of
             years
             of
             discretion
             ,
             and
             capable
             of
             understanding
             ,
             the
             Apostles
             
             were
             first
             to
             teach
             them
             ,
             and
             to
             make
             them
             willing
             by
             teaching
             ;
             and
             afterward
             to
             Baptise
             them
             But
             for
             Infants
             they
             were
             first
             of
             all
             to
             make
             them
             Disciples
             ,
             by
             Baptising
             of
             them
             ,
             and
             afterward
             to
             teach
             them
             ,
             when
             they
             are
             capable
             of
             understanding
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             I
             have
             to
             oppose
             unto
             you
             :
             The
             translators
             and
             translations
             of
             all
             sorts
             ,
             in
             all
             Languages
             ,
             from
             the
             first
             to
             the
             last
             ,
             (
             so
             far
             as
             I
             know
             )
             translated
             it
             
               Teach
               ,
            
             without
             any
             doubt
             or
             scruple
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             Do
             you
             know
             what
             is
             the
             
               Ethiopick
            
             word
             ?
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             No
             I
             do
             not
             .
             Next
             compare
             Scripture
             with
             Scripture
             :
             there
             being
             no
             better
             interpreter
             :
             this
             
               TEXT
            
             being
             compared
             with
             
               Mark
               16.
               15.
               
               Go
               ye
               into
               all
               the
               World
               ,
               preach
               the
               Gospel
               to
               every
               Creature
               .
            
             These
             Commissions
             are
             the
             same
             indifferent
             words
             ,
             
               Matthew
            
             Saith
             ,
             
               Go
               Disciple
               ,
               or
               teach
               all
               Nations
               .
               Mark
            
             Saith
             ,
             
               Go
               preach
               the
               Gospel
               to
               every
               Creature
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             I
             deny
             them
             to
             be
             the
             same
             ,
             neither
             given
             at
             the
             same
             time
             ,
             nor
             at
             the
             same
             place
             :
             for
             the
             one
             was
             given
             in
             
               Galilae
               ,
            
             in
             a
             mountain
             where
             Jesus
             had
             papointed
             them
             :
             The
             other
             was
             given
             to
             them
             when
             Jesus
             appeared
             to
             them
             as
             they
             sate
             at
             meat
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             Time
             and
             place
             doth
             not
             alter
             the
             Commission
             ,
             or
             prove
             them
             to
             be
             two
             :
             how
             doth
             it
             appear
             by
             your
             words
             that
             these
             words
             were
             spoken
             at
             several
             times
             ,
             and
             in
             two
             places
             ?
             was
             it
             possible
             they
             might
             sit
             at
             meat
             in
             the
             mountain
             of
             
               Galilae
               ?
            
             The
             next
             thing
             I
             have
             to
             urge
             you
             with
             ,
             is
             the
             practice
             of
             the
             Apostles
             ,
             who
             best
             knew
             the
             meaning
             of
             the
             Commission
             .
             They
             in
             the
             execution
             of
             this
             Commission
             ,
             did
             preach
             the
             Gospel
             ,
             and
             when
             the
             People
             beleeved
             ,
             they
             Baptised
             them
             ,
             both
             Men
             and
             Women
             ;
             but
             not
             a
             word
             of
             Children
             
               (
               Acts
               9.
               12.
               )
            
             In
             the
             City
             of
             
               Samaria
               :
            
             were
             there
             no
             Children
             there
             ?
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             
               Philip
            
             Baptised
             both
             Men
             and
             Women
             ,
             under
             which
             Children
             are
             comprehended
             ;
             which
             is
             usual
             in
             Scripture
             :
             for
             
               Josua
            
             8.
             25.
             it
             is
             said
             that
             
               Josua
            
             destroyed
             all
             the
             Inhabitants
             of
             Ai
             .
             And
             so
             it
             was
             that
             all
             that
             fell
             that
             
             day
             both
             of
             Men
             and
             Women
             ,
             were
             twelve
             thousand
             :
             even
             all
             the
             Men
             of
             
               Ai
               .
            
             Here
             Children
             are
             comprehended
             under
             Men
             and
             Women
             ;
             for
             they
             also
             were
             destroyed
             :
             for
             he
             utterly
             destroyed
             all
             the
             inhabitants
             of
             
               Ai
               :
            
             and
             Children
             were
             part
             ,
             it
             may
             be
             ,
             a
             great
             part
             of
             the
             inhabitants
             of
             
               Ai
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             This
             is
             not
             much
             to
             the
             purpose
             :
             the
             
               TEXT
            
             doth
             not
             say
             that
             there
             were
             no
             more
             inhabitants
             but
             twelve
             thousand
             ;
             but
             the
             Men
             and
             Women
             were
             twelve
             thousand
             ,
             and
             that
             they
             were
             all
             ,
             the
             Men
             of
             
               Ai
               .
            
             It
             is
             possible
             ,
             notwithstanding
             that
             
               TEXT
               ,
            
             that
             the
             inhabitants
             of
             
               Ai
            
             might
             be
             twenty
             thousand
             ,
             the
             Children
             being
             accounted
             .
             I
             leave
             your
             answer
             to
             consideration
             ,
             and
             proceed
             to
             another
             argument
             .
             If
             Baptisme
             of
             Infants
             be
             Lawfull
             ,
             then
             it
             is
             of
             God
             :
             but
             it
             is
             not
             of
             God
             :
             Therefore
             it
             is
             not
             Lawfull
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             Baptisme
             of
             Infants
             is
             of
             God
             ,
             and
             an
             ordinance
             of
             God
             :
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             Whatsoever
             is
             of
             God
             is
             to
             some
             good
             use
             or
             purpose
             .
             But
             Baptisme
             of
             Infants
             is
             to
             no
             good
             use
             or
             purpose
             .
             Therefore
             Baptisme
             of
             Infants
             is
             not
             of
             God
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             Baptisme
             of
             Infants
             is
             to
             very
             good
             purpose
             ;
             namely
             to
             wash
             away
             their
             Original
             sin
             ,
             that
             so
             they
             may
             be
             made
             the
             Children
             of
             God
             ;
             without
             which
             they
             cannot
             be
             saved
             :
             
               Except
               any
               one
               be
               born
               of
               Water
               ,
               and
               of
               the
               Spirit
               ,
               he
               cannot
               enter
               into
               the
               Kingdome
               of
               God
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Opp.
             
          
           
             I
             will
             prove
             that
             Baptisme
             cannot
             wash
             away
             the
             sin
             of
             Infants
             .
             If
             all
             the
             sin
             that
             Infants
             are
             or
             can
             be
             guilty
             of
             ,
             be
             taken
             away
             before
             Baptisme
             ;
             then
             Baptisme
             cannot
             wash
             it
             away
             :
             But
             all
             the
             sin
             that
             Infants
             are
             ,
             or
             can
             be
             guilty
             of
             ,
             is
             washed
             away
             before
             Baptisme
             :
             Therefore
             Baptisme
             cannot
             wash
             away
             sin
             of
             Infants
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             The
             sin
             of
             Infants
             is
             not
             washed
             away
             before
             Baptisme
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             If
             Infants
             have
             no
             other
             sin
             but
             the
             sin
             of
             the
             World
             :
             whereof
             they
             are
             guilty
             ,
             then
             all
             their
             sin
             is
             taken
             or
             washed
             away
             before
             Baptisme
             .
             But
             Infants
             have
             no
             other
             sin
             but
             the
             sin
             of
             the
             World
             ,
             therefore
             all
             their
             sin
             is
             washed
             away
             before
             Baptisme
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             I
             deny
             the
             consequence
             .
          
        
         
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             If
             the
             sin
             of
             the
             World
             be
             taken
             away
             before
             Baptisme
             ;
             then
             the
             consequence
             is
             true
             .
             But
             the
             sin
             of
             the
             World
             is
             taken
             away
             before
             Baptisme
             :
             therefore
             the
             consequence
             is
             true
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             I
             deny
             the
             minor
             ,
             the
             sin
             of
             the
             World
             is
             not
             taken
             away
             before
             Baptisme
             :
             I
             know
             your
             Scriptures
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             If
             Christ
             took
             the
             sin
             of
             the
             World
             away
             by
             his
             death
             ,
             when
             he
             died
             ;
             then
             it
             is
             taken
             away
             before
             Baptisme
             .
             But
             Christ
             Jesus
             took
             away
             the
             sin
             of
             the
             World
             by
             his
             death
             :
             therefore
             it
             was
             taken
             away
             before
             Baptisme
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             Christ
             did
             not
             actually
             take
             away
             the
             sin
             of
             the
             World
             by
             his
             death
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             
               John
               1.
               29.
               
               Behold
               the
               Lamb
               of
               God
               that
               taketh
               away
               the
               sin
               of
               the
               World
               .
               1.
               Pet.
               2.
               24.
               
               Who
               himself
               bare
               our
               sins
               ,
               in
               his
               own
               body
               ,
               on
               the
               tree
               .
               Heb.
               9.
               28.
               
               Christ
               was
               once
               offered
               ,
               to
               bear
               the
               sins
               of
               many
               :
            
             with
             a
             multitude
             of
             places
             .
             
               Deut.
               9.
               24.
               
               To
               finish
               sin
               ,
               and
               make
               an
               end
               of
               transgression
               ,
               &c.
               
            
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             Christ
             did
             not
             actually
             take
             away
             the
             sin
             of
             the
             World
             ,
             but
             only
             
               Potentially
               ,
            
             in
             procuring
             a
             possibility
             of
             pardon
             upon
             conditions
             performed
             :
             namely
             of
             
               Faith
               ,
               Repentance
               ,
            
             and
             
               Baptisme
               ,
            
             in
             those
             that
             are
             of
             years
             of
             discretion
             ;
             and
             of
             Baptisme
             in
             Infants
             :
             and
             as
             they
             who
             are
             of
             years
             of
             discretion
             cannot
             have
             sin
             taken
             away
             without
             repentance
             Faith
             and
             Baptisme
             ,
             no
             more
             can
             Infants
             without
             Baptisme
             .
          
        
         
           
             Opp.
             
          
           
             I
             will
             prove
             that
             Christ
             did
             actually
             take
             away
             the
             sin
             of
             the
             world
             ,
             by
             his
             death
             :
             That
             which
             was
             not
             imputed
             ,
             was
             actually
             taken
             away
             :
             but
             the
             sin
             of
             the
             World
             was
             not
             imputed
             :
             Therefore
             it
             was
             actually
             taken
             away
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             The
             sin
             of
             the
             World
             was
             imputed
             before
             Baptisme
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             
               2.
               Cor.
               5.
               19.
               
               God
               was
               in
               Christ
               reconciling
               the
               World
               to
               himself
               ;
               not
               imputing
               their
               Trespasses
               unto
               them
               .
               Coll.
               1.
               20.
               
               And
               having
               made
               peace
               through
               the
               bloud
               of
               his
               cross
               ,
               by
               him
               to
               reconcile
               all
               things
               to
               himself
               .
               Heb.
               10.
               14.
               
               By
               one
               offering
               ,
               he
               hath
               perfected
               for
               ever
               ,
               them
               that
               are
               sanctified
               Esa.
               53.
               
               The
               Lord
               laid
               on
               him
               the
               
               iniquity
               of
               us
               all
               .
            
             A
             multitude
             of
             witnesses
             might
             be
             produced
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             This
             is
             none
             other
             but
             what
             was
             said
             before
             :
             he
             did
             not
             impute
             them
             virtually
             ,
             (
             not
             but
             that
             he
             did
             impute
             them
             actually
             )
             until
             the
             performance
             of
             the
             conditions
             afore
             named
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             I
             will
             leave
             these
             places
             to
             consideration
             ,
             and
             prove
             that
             the
             sin
             of
             Infants
             was
             taken
             away
             wholly
             before
             Baptisme
             ,
             by
             another
             argument
             :
             If
             the
             law
             whereby
             they
             were
             held
             guilty
             ,
             was
             wholy
             taken
             away
             ,
             then
             the
             sin
             was
             wholy
             taken
             away
             .
             But
             the
             law
             whereby
             they
             were
             held
             guilty
             was
             actually
             and
             wholely
             taken
             away
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             The
             law
             whereby
             they
             were
             held
             guilty
             was
             not
             actually
             taken
             away
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             If
             the
             Covenant
             that
             God
             made
             with
             Man
             before
             his
             fall
             ,
             be
             wholely
             and
             actually
             taken
             away
             ,
             then
             the
             law
             whereby
             they
             were
             held
             guilty
             ,
             is
             taken
             away
             :
             But
             the
             Covenant
             that
             God
             made
             with
             Man
             before
             the
             fall
             ,
             is
             actually
             taken
             away
             :
             therefore
             the
             law
             whereby
             they
             were
             held
             guilty
             ,
             was
             taken
             away
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             The
             major
             is
             denyed
             ,
             the
             Law
             or
             Covenant
             made
             before
             the
             fall
             of
             Man
             ,
             is
             not
             actually
             and
             wholely
             taken
             away
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             If
             that
             Christ
             have
             established
             a
             
               New
               Covenant
               ,
            
             then
             the
             
               Old
            
             one
             is
             taken
             away
             :
             But
             Christ
             hath
             established
             a
             
               New
               Covenant
               .
            
             Therefore
             the
             old
             and
             former
             Covenant
             is
             taken
             away
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             I
             deny
             the
             consequence
             ;
             both
             remain
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             If
             two
             Covenants
             cannot
             stand
             together
             ,
             then
             the
             consequence
             is
             true
             ;
             but
             two
             Covenants
             cannot
             stand
             together
             ,
             but
             the
             second
             makes
             voyde
             the
             first
             :
             therefore
             the
             consequence
             is
             true
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             Two
             Covenants
             may
             stand
             together
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             
               Heb.
               8.
               13.
               
               Heb.
               10.
               9.
               
               He
               taketh
               away
               the
               first
               ,
               that
               he
               might
               establish
               the
               second
               .
               Heb.
               9.
               15.
               
            
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             The
             Author
             speaks
             not
             of
             the
             Covenant
             made
             with
             Adam
             :
             But
             of
             that
             which
             God
             made
             with
             the
             Children
             of
             
               Israel
               .
            
          
        
         
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             I
             urge
             the
             reason
             of
             the
             Apostle
             ,
             which
             if
             it
             hold
             good
             in
             that
             it
             will
             also
             hold
             good
             in
             this
             :
             if
             the
             Covenant
             made
             with
             
               Israel
            
             must
             be
             disanulled
             ;
             then
             also
             must
             the
             Covenant
             made
             with
             Adam
             ,
             before
             his
             fall
             ,
             be
             much
             more
             disanulled
             ;
             in
             asmuch
             as
             it
             hath
             as
             great
             an
             oposition
             .
             I
             shall
             easily
             prove
             that
             Covenant
             to
             be
             taken
             away
             :
             If
             no
             Man
             in
             the
             World
             neither
             is
             nor
             shall
             be
             judged
             by
             that
             Covenant
             ,
             then
             it
             is
             wholely
             taken
             away
             :
             But
             no
             Man
             either
             is
             or
             shall
             be
             Judged
             by
             that
             Covenant
             :
             Therefore
             it
             is
             taken
             away
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             Persons
             shall
             be
             Judged
             by
             that
             Covenant
             made
             with
             Adam
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             If
             Infants
             shall
             be
             judged
             by
             that
             Covenant
             made
             with
             Adam
             ,
             then
             Infants
             dying
             Unbaptised
             shall
             be
             shut
             out
             of
             Heaven
             :
             but
             Infants
             dying
             Unbaptised
             shall
             not
             be
             shut
             out
             of
             Heaven
             .
             Therefore
             Infants
             shall
             not
             be
             judged
             by
             that
             Covenant
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             Infants
             Unbaptised
             ,
             (
             where
             there
             is
             no
             desire
             of
             their
             Baptisme
             in
             their
             Parents
             or
             Friends
             )
             shall
             be
             shut
             out
             of
             Heaven
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             If
             Unbaptised
             Infants
             be
             shut
             out
             of
             Heaven
             ,
             then
             God
             punisheth
             some
             Creatures
             for
             that
             which
             they
             cannot
             help
             ;
             but
             God
             punisheth
             no
             Creatures
             for
             that
             which
             they
             cannot
             help
             :
             Therefore
             Unbaptised
             Infants
             are
             not
             shut
             out
             of
             Heaven
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             I
             deny
             the
             consequence
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             Then
             
               Shutting
               out
               of
               Heaven
               is
               no
               punishment
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             B
             
          
           
             Here
             the
             Auditors
             (
             some
             of
             them
             )
             brake
             order
             ,
             some
             crying
             out
             Bear
             witness
             :
             he
             sayth
             ,
             
               It
               is
               no
               punishment
               to
               be
               shut
               out
               of
               Heaven
               :
            
             because
             of
             the
             denyall
             of
             this
             consequence
             :
             some
             also
             affirm
             he
             plainly
             said
             so
             ,
             in
             so
             many
             sillables
             ,
             which
             they
             can
             witness
             .
          
        
         
           
             Res
             .
          
           
             The
             minor
             also
             may
             be
             questioned
             ,
             for
             God
             may
             do
             what
             he
             will
             with
             his
             own
             ,
             having
             all
             power
             in
             his
             hand
             ,
             as
             the
             
               Potter
               hath
               power
               over
               his
               clay
               ,
            
             to
             use
             it
             at
             his
             pleasure
             .
          
        
         
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             I
             do
             not
             say
             what
             God
             might
             or
             may
             do
             ,
             but
             what
             he
             doth
             .
             Now
             we
             know
             that
             God
             cannot
             do
             contrary
             to
             his
             oath
             :
             but
             to
             punish
             Creatures
             ,
             for
             that
             they
             cannot
             help
             ,
             is
             contrary
             to
             his
             oath
             ;
             therefore
             God
             cannot
             do
             it
             .
             Moreover
             thus
             I
             argue
             ;
             if
             God
             punish
             Creatures
             for
             that
             they
             cannot
             help
             :
             then
             he
             doth
             not
             leave
             all
             the
             World
             without
             excuse
             .
             But
             he
             will
             leave
             all
             the
             World
             without
             excuse
             ;
             Therefore
             he
             will
             not
             punish
             any
             Creature
             for
             that
             which
             they
             cannot
             help
             .
          
        
         
           
             B
             
          
           
             This
             the
             Opponent
             repeated
             three
             or
             four
             times
             over
             ,
             and
             received
             no
             answer
             at
             all
             :
             no
             notice
             was
             taken
             of
             it
             :
             The
             Respondent
             complaining
             of
             the
             injury
             done
             unto
             him
             by
             the
             disorder
             of
             the
             Auditors
             ;
             which
             the
             Opponent
             confessed
             ,
             and
             said
             it
             was
             his
             sorrow
             ,
             and
             altogether
             without
             his
             approbation
             .
             And
             then
             he
             spake
             as
             followeth
             ,
             and
             departed
             .
          
        
         
           
             Oppo
             .
          
           
             Although
             I
             have
             many
             things
             to
             propound
             ,
             yet
             considering
             the
             time
             allotted
             and
             agreed
             upon
             is
             spent
             :
             and
             my
             own
             infirmities
             begin
             to
             press
             me
             .
             I
             shall
             at
             this
             time
             cease
             .
          
        
         
           
             A
             
          
           
             I
             pray
             declare
             to
             me
             what
             success
             this
             disputation
             had
             .
          
        
         
           
             B
             
          
           
             Surely
             ,
             according
             to
             the
             different
             affections
             (
             rather
             then
             Judgements
             )
             of
             some
             Men
             and
             Women
             :
             Although
             Christ
             himself
             preached
             Church
             Gospel
             of
             the
             Kingdome
             ,
             yet
             some
             beleeved
             ,
             and
             some
             beleeved
             not
             ;
             Some
             spake
             evill
             ,
             and
             some
             well
             :
             Some
             cryed
             Victory
             on
             the
             one
             side
             ,
             and
             some
             on
             the
             other
             .
          
        
         
           
             A
             
          
           
             The
             censure
             of
             the
             vulgar
             ,
             that
             know
             nothing
             ,
             is
             not
             worthy
             of
             the
             least
             account
             in
             the
             World
             ;
             their
             approbation
             is
             very
             near
             to
             disgrace
             :
             and
             the
             censure
             of
             the
             Learned
             ,
             who
             want
             conscience
             ,
             is
             as
             little
             to
             be
             
             esteemed
             :
             it
             was
             wisely
             spoken
             by
             one
             of
             old
             ,
             to
             a
             lewd
             person
             ,
             who
             commended
             him
             highly
             :
             I
             am
             afraid
             (
             said
             he
             )
             I
             have
             done
             something
             amiss
             :
             Because
             thou
             speakest
             well
             of
             me
             .
             But
             I
             desire
             to
             hear
             how
             it
             was
             resented
             by
             those
             that
             were
             truly
             both
             Judicious
             ,
             and
             Consciencious
             :
             especially
             what
             resolution
             the
             
               Gentlewoman●ound
            
             ,
             for
             whose
             satisfaction
             the
             dispute
             (
             as
             you
             said
             at
             first
             )
             was
             appointed
             .
          
        
         
           
             B
             
          
           
             I
             am
             not
             able
             to
             render
             a
             particular
             account
             of
             every
             one
             ;
             But
             as
             touching
             the
             
               Gentlewoman
               ,
            
             the
             event
             was
             thus
             .
             The
             Dispute
             was
             ended
             the
             26th
             .
             day
             of
             
               November
               ,
            
             and
             shee
             (
             as
             I
             have
             heard
             )
             was
             Baptised
             the
             first
             day
             of
             
               December
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             A
             
          
           
             Her
             practice
             declares
             her
             satisfaction
             :
             But
             I
             remember
             that
             day
             was
             very
             cold
             ,
             and
             sharp
             ;
             it
             seemes
             strange
             that
             a
             
               Gentlewoman
            
             should
             endure
             it
             at
             that
             season
             of
             the
             year
             ,
             and
             in
             such
             weather
             to
             go
             into
             the
             water
             ,
             and
             to
             be
             dipt
             all
             over
             .
          
        
         
           
             B
             
          
           
             You
             know
             that
             
               Fantasticall
               Ladies
            
             have
             a
             proverb
             :
             that
             
               Pride
               feels
               no
               cold
               ;
            
             and
             their
             naked
             necks
             and
             breasts
             ,
             and
             arms
             ,
             even
             in
             the
             coldest
             weather
             ,
             declare
             the
             truth
             of
             it
             :
             know
             that
             Faith
             is
             stronger
             in
             Christian
             Women
             ,
             who
             serve
             the
             Lord
             Jesus
             ,
             then
             
               Pride
            
             is
             in
             vain
             ones
             ,
             who
             serve
             the
             Prince
             of
             Darkness
             .
             Take
             therefore
             this
             for
             a
             
               Maxime
               :
            
             That
             Faith
             ,
             and
             Zeal
             ,
             feel
             no
             cold
             :
             
               Peter
            
             will
             adventure
             to
             walk
             upon
             the
             water
             ,
             if
             Jesus
             say
             Come
             .
             And
             tender
             Women
             will
             not
             be
             afraid
             to
             go
             under
             water
             ,
             when
             Jesus
             bids
             Go
             :
             very
             hardly
             will
             that
             person
             follow
             Christ
             ,
             into
             the
             fire
             ,
             who
             scruples
             to
             follow
             him
             into
             the
             water
             .
          
        
         
           
             But
             is
             it
             not
             very
             prejudiciall
             to
             the
             health
             of
             such
             persons
             
             who
             have
             not
             been
             accustomed
             to
             wet
             their
             feet
             in
             water
             ?
             I
             remember
             
               Mr.
               Baxter
            
             writes
             ,
             that
             it
             is
             very
             dangerous
             ;
             And
             many
             thereby
             are
             likely
             to
             perish
             ,
             if
             they
             should
             not
             miraculously
             be
             preserved
             .
          
        
         
           
             B
             
          
           
             I
             acknowledge
             
               Mr.
               Baxter
            
             to
             be
             a
             Learned
             Man
             in
             many
             things
             ;
             But
             herein
             he
             betrayes
             his
             science
             :
             and
             I
             am
             afraid
             ,
             his
             conscience
             likewise
             :
             As
             touching
             science
             ,
             it
             is
             easy
             to
             prove
             that
             dipping
             of
             Beleevers
             ,
             is
             not
             so
             dangerous
             ,
             as
             dipping
             of
             Infants
             :
             yet
             dipping
             of
             Infants
             was
             not
             only
             Commanded
             by
             the
             Church
             of
             
               England
               ,
            
             but
             also
             generally
             practised
             in
             the
             Church
             of
             
               England
               ,
            
             till
             the
             year
             1600.
             yea
             in
             some
             places
             it
             was
             practised
             untill
             the
             year
             1641.
             untill
             the
             fashion
             altered
             .
             Again
             ,
             I
             can
             make
             it
             manifest
             that
             dipping
             either
             Infants
             or
             Beleevers
             ,
             is
             not
             so
             dangerous
             as
             Sprinkling
             of
             Infants
             :
             and
             yet
             they
             sprinkle
             them
             at
             all
             times
             ,
             Night
             and
             Day
             ,
             and
             Winter
             and
             Summer
             .
             And
             had
             
               M.
               Baxter
            
             known
             this
             to
             be
             true
             ,
             he
             would
             have
             told
             where
             and
             when
             any
             Beleever
             was
             killed
             ,
             and
             by
             whom
             ;
             that
             so
             he
             might
             have
             brought
             an
             
               Odium
            
             upon
             the
             Practise
             :
             But
             he
             gives
             us
             not
             one
             instance
             that
             I
             know
             .
             But
             on
             the
             contrary
             ,
             I
             shall
             tell
             you
             my
             observation
             of
             many
             hundreds
             ,
             that
             I
             have
             known
             Baptised
             ;
             of
             both
             Sexes
             ,
             of
             all
             sorts
             :
             Old
             ,
             Young
             ,
             feeble
             persons
             ,
             Women
             great
             with
             child
             :
             I
             never
             knew
             any
             that
             had
             the
             least
             harm
             ,
             or
             suffered
             any
             damage
             in
             respect
             of
             health
             .
             I
             have
             heard
             many
             confess
             they
             received
             much
             benefit
             in
             respect
             of
             their
             Bodies
             ;
             But
             I
             never
             heard
             any
             complain
             ,
             neither
             did
             I
             ever
             know
             any
             (
             I
             speak
             it
             to
             the
             praise
             of
             the
             providence
             
             of
             God
             )
             that
             died
             within
             one
             year
             after
             they
             were
             Baptised
             :
             excepting
             one
             mayd
             in
             
               Essex
               ,
            
             who
             died
             within
             a
             few
             weeks
             ;
             and
             
               Mr.
               
               Baxters
            
             brethren
             instigated
             ,
             and
             spurred
             the
             Magistrate
             ,
             untill
             the
             person
             Baptising
             her
             ,
             was
             sent
             to
             prison
             for
             Murther
             ,
             laid
             in
             Irons
             ,
             Arrainged
             at
             the
             Bar
             ,
             at
             the
             Assizes
             holden
             at
             
               Chelmford
               .
            
             And
             although
             witnesses
             came
             in
             (
             the
             one
             whereof
             was
             her
             mother
             )
             and
             testified
             that
             shee
             was
             in
             better
             health
             ,
             then
             shee
             had
             been
             ,
             for
             some
             years
             before
             ,
             for
             divers
             dayes
             ;
             and
             that
             shee
             walked
             comfortably
             abroad
             ;
             yet
             the
             Jury
             was
             informed
             that
             he
             was
             guilty
             of
             
               Wilfull
               Murder
               .
            
             And
             had
             not
             his
             appeal
             stood
             him
             in
             stead
             ,
             he
             had
             been
             in
             danger
             of
             his
             Life
             .
             But
             when
             he
             had
             appealed
             ,
             neither
             
               Priest
               ,
            
             nor
             
               People
            
             durst
             prosecute
             him
             any
             more
             .
          
           
             If
             therefore
             
               Mr.
               Baxter
            
             and
             his
             Brethren
             could
             prove
             what
             they
             affirm
             to
             be
             true
             ;
             how
             great
             the
             Cry
             would
             be
             ,
             you
             may
             proportionably
             judge
             ,
             by
             this
             one
             story
             :
             The
             whole
             matter
             whereof
             ,
             with
             all
             the
             circumstances
             ,
             are
             worthy
             to
             be
             committed
             to
             the
             Press
             :
             
               ad
               perpetuam
               rei
               memoriam
               :
            
             That
             after
             ages
             may
             take
             notice
             what
             manner
             of
             persons
             we
             live
             in
             the
             midst
             of
             ;
             who
             Preach
             ,
             Write
             ,
             and
             Print
             ;
             that
             the
             
               Anabaptists
            
             are
             bloudy
             .
          
           
             I
             have
             a
             little
             more
             to
             speak
             to
             
               Mr.
               Baxter
               :
            
             that
             if
             there
             were
             such
             danger
             in
             the
             Dipping
             of
             beleevers
             as
             he
             pretends
             :
             It
             must
             needs
             be
             that
             the
             Administrator
             must
             be
             in
             greater
             perill
             then
             the
             Receiver
             :
             Forasmuch
             as
             the
             Baptised
             goeth
             into
             the
             water
             but
             once
             ,
             the
             Baptist
             often
             :
             where
             many
             times
             he
             stayes
             the
             time
             untill
             divers
             persons
             
             are
             Baptised
             ,
             if
             the
             danger
             be
             so
             great
             ,
             it
             need
             not
             to
             be
             feared
             that
             the
             Sect
             should
             greatly
             increase
             :
             by
             reason
             that
             the
             Teachers
             ,
             will
             soon
             destroy
             themselves
             .
             But
             I
             can
             shew
             
               Mr.
               Baxter
            
             an
             old
             Man
             in
             
               London
               ,
            
             who
             hath
             laboured
             in
             the
             Lords
             Poole
             many
             years
             ;
             converted
             by
             his
             Ministry
             (
             as
             an
             Instrument
             in
             the
             hand
             of
             the
             Lord
             )
             more
             Men
             and
             Women
             then
             
               Mr.
               Baxter
            
             hath
             in
             his
             parish
             ;
             yea
             ,
             when
             he
             hath
             laboured
             a
             great
             part
             of
             the
             day
             in
             Preaching
             ,
             and
             Reasoning
             ,
             his
             refection
             hath
             been
             (
             not
             a
             
               Sack-possit
            
             or
             a
             
               Cawdle
               )
            
             but
             to
             go
             into
             the
             water
             ,
             and
             Baptise
             Converts
             :
             And
             he
             liveth
             ,
             when
             younger
             and
             wary
             persons
             have
             gone
             to
             the
             grave
             before
             him
             .
             I
             wonder
             that
             
               Mr.
               Baxter
            
             should
             forget
             what
             he
             hath
             read
             in
             Authours
             ,
             which
             he
             deems
             Authentike
             :
             who
             write
             ,
             that
             
               Ethelbert
            
             King
             of
             
               Kent
               ,
            
             with
             Ten
             thousand
             Men
             and
             Women
             ,
             were
             Baptised
             in
             
               Canterbury
               ;
            
             upon
             the
             25th
             .
             day
             of
             
               December
               ,
            
             in
             the
             year
             597.
             
          
        
         
           
             A
             
          
           
             The
             Providence
             of
             God
             appears
             to
             be
             very
             great
             in
             this
             case
             :
             as
             if
             the
             Lord
             did
             puropsely
             intend
             to
             stop
             the
             mouths
             of
             
               Clamorous
               adversaries
               :
            
             yet
             I
             beleeve
             he
             will
             not
             acknowledge
             it
             to
             be
             any
             miracle
             ,
             for
             he
             will
             not
             willingly
             grant
             ,
             that
             God
             works
             miracles
             among
             the
             
               Anabaptists
               .
            
             But
             did
             not
             the
             Opponent
             declare
             that
             he
             had
             more
             arguments
             ;
             which
             he
             intended
             to
             have
             urged
             ?
             I
             would
             willingly
             hear
             them
             .
          
        
         
           
             B
             
          
           
             You
             shall
             hear
             them
             :
             That
             Doctrine
             which
             leaveth
             power
             in
             the
             hands
             of
             Men
             to
             kill
             soules
             ,
             without
             their
             own
             consent
             ,
             cannot
             be
             of
             God
             :
             But
             the
             Doctrine
             ,
             of
             Infants
             Baptisme
             (
             as
             the
             Respondent
             layes
             it
             down
             )
             Leaveth
             power
             in
             the
             hands
             of
             
             Men
             to
             kill
             soules
             without
             their
             consent
             :
             therefore
             the
             Doctrine
             of
             Infant
             Baptisme
             ,
             laid
             down
             by
             the
             Respondent
             ,
             is
             not
             of
             God
             .
          
        
         
           
             A
             
          
           
             I
             think
             the
             major
             cannot
             be
             denyed
             ,
             in
             regard
             the
             Scripture
             saith
             ,
             Men
             are
             not
             able
             to
             kill
             the
             soule
             
               Math.
            
             10.
             28.
             
             The
             minor
             therefore
             remains
             to
             be
             proved
             .
          
        
         
           
             B
             
          
           
             If
             men
             have
             power
             by
             his
             Doctrine
             to
             deprive
             soules
             of
             salvation
             ;
             then
             they
             have
             power
             to
             kill
             soules
             .
          
           
             But
             by
             this
             Doctrine
             ,
             Men
             have
             power
             to
             deprive
             soules
             of
             salvation
             :
             therefore
             (
             by
             this
             Doctrine
             )
             Men
             have
             power
             to
             kill
             soules
             :
             The
             minor
             is
             proved
             ,
             by
             the
             grounds
             which
             are
             laid
             down
             ,
             
               viz.
               Baptisme
               is
               so
               absolutely
               necessary
               to
               salvation
               ,
               that
               no
               Child
               can
               be
               saved
               without
               it
               .
            
             Now
             we
             see
             many
             Parents
             can
             and
             do
             withhold
             Baptisme
             from
             their
             Children
             ,
             and
             thereby
             (
             according
             to
             his
             Doctrine
             )
             they
             kill
             the
             soules
             of
             their
             Children
             :
             
               For
               he
               that
               depriveth
               us
               of
               the
               meanes
               ,
               doth
               deprive
               us
               of
               the
               end
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             A
             
          
           
             I
             will
             not
             undertake
             the
             answer
             of
             this
             argument
             :
             Because
             I
             know
             not
             what
             to
             say
             to
             it
             ;
             
               I
            
             leave
             it
             for
             them
             that
             can
             :
             I
             pray
             you
             proceed
             to
             another
             argument
             .
          
        
         
           
             B
             
          
           
             That
             Doctrine
             which
             maketh
             the
             commands
             of
             Christ
             to
             be
             more
             obscure
             ,
             then
             the
             commands
             delivered
             by
             
               Moses
               ;
            
             is
             not
             of
             God
             :
             But
             the
             Doctrine
             of
             Infant
             Baptisme
             maketh
             the
             commands
             of
             Christ
             more
             obscure
             then
             the
             commands
             delivered
             by
             
               Moses
               .
            
             Therefore
             the
             Doctrine
             of
             Infant
             Baptisme
             is
             not
             of
             God
             .
          
           
           
             That
             Christ
             speaks
             more
             plain
             then
             
               Moses
               ,
            
             these
             Scriptures
             testifie
             ,
             
               John
               1.
               16
               ,
               17.
               
               Heb.
               2.
               3.
               
               Chapters
               ,
               2.
               Cor.
            
             3.
             from
             the
             6th
             to
             the
             15
             verse
             .
          
           
             Now
             it
             evidently
             appears
             that
             
               Moses
            
             delivered
             ordinances
             plainly
             and
             evidently
             ,
             even
             in
             the
             smallest
             things
             :
             he
             was
             very
             punctuall
             according
             to
             all
             the
             form
             shewed
             in
             the
             Mount
             .
             If
             then
             the
             Baptisme
             of
             Infants
             be
             a
             thing
             of
             so
             great
             weight
             ,
             so
             absolutely
             necessary
             to
             salvation
             of
             them
             ;
             How
             can
             it
             be
             imagined
             that
             it
             should
             have
             been
             wholly
             left
             out
             of
             the
             Scripture
             ,
             and
             not
             a
             word
             of
             it
             to
             be
             found
             :
             as
             the
             defenders
             themselves
             confess
             ?
             but
             only
             by
             consequence
             ;
             and
             this
             age
             is
             ashamed
             of
             the
             consequences
             ,
             that
             pleased
             former
             ages
             :
             and
             bring
             new
             and
             unheard
             of
             sequels
             ,
             to
             confirm
             what
             they
             cannot
             find
             in
             plain
             terms
             delivered
             .
          
           
             A
             third
             argument
             is
             this
             :
             That
             Doctrine
             and
             practise
             which
             begets
             questions
             that
             cannot
             be
             answered
             ;
             and
             is
             upheld
             by
             practises
             which
             are
             ridiculous
             ,
             is
             not
             of
             God
             :
             But
             such
             is
             the
             Doctrine
             and
             practise
             of
             Infant
             Baptisme
             :
             therefore
             it
             is
             not
             of
             God
             .
             The
             questions
             and
             doubts
             are
             these
             chiefly
             .
             
               
                 1.
                 
                 How
                 long
                 time
                 may
                 a
                 Child
                 be
                 kept
                 Vnbaptised
                 without
                 sin
                 ?
              
               
                 2.
                 
                 Whether
                 the
                 Children
                 of
                 Vnbeleevers
                 may
                 be
                 Baptised
                 ?
              
               
                 3.
                 
                 Whether
                 the
                 faith
                 of
                 the
                 Grandfather
                 may
                 give
                 a
                 Child
                 right
                 to
                 Baptisme
                 .
              
               
                 4.
                 
                 How
                 far
                 may
                 we
                 go
                 back
                 in
                 a
                 right
                 or
                 collaterall
                 line
                 to
                 derive
                 the
                 right
                 of
                 Children
                 to
                 Baptisme
                 .
              
               
                 5.
                 
                 Whether
                 sureties
                 can
                 perform
                 Faith
                 and
                 Repentance
                 for
                 the
                 Child
                 .
              
               
               
                 6.
                 
                 Whether
                 that
                 Child
                 be
                 truly
                 Baptised
                 ;
                 whose
                 sureties
                 were
                 unbeleevers
                 .
              
            
          
           
             The
             practises
             that
             are
             ridiculous
             are
             these
             .
          
           
             1.
             
             The
             
               Priest
            
             demandeth
             of
             the
             Child
             whether
             it
             do
             beleeve
             in
             God
             ?
             Whether
             it
             do
             forsake
             the
             Divell
             ?
             &c.
             whether
             he
             or
             shee
             desire
             to
             be
             Baptised
             ?
             The
             
               Godfather
            
             answers
             ,
             Yea
             :
             for
             this
             Child
             :
             when
             the
             Child
             hath
             not
             any
             desire
             .
             This
             is
             so
             Ridiculous
             ,
             that
             our
             new
             Reformers
             are
             quite
             ashamed
             of
             it
             ,
             and
             have
             sent
             the
             
               Antique
            
             fashion
             out
             of
             dores
             :
             and
             cashired
             the
             
               Godfathers
            
             and
             
               Godmothers
               .
            
             There
             were
             of
             old
             (
             even
             of
             the
             same
             antiquity
             with
             Infants
             Baptisme
             :
             )
             Men
             that
             did
             not
             spare
             to
             Baptise
             dead
             Men
             :
             so
             great
             a
             superstition
             did
             possess
             the
             minds
             of
             some
             in
             the
             second
             and
             third
             
               Centuries
               :
            
             The
             mode
             was
             thus
             ;
             the
             dead
             man
             lieth
             upon
             the
             bed
             :
             A
             living
             man
             creeps
             under
             the
             bed
             :
             the
             
               Priest
            
             demands
             of
             the
             dead
             man
             ,
             whether
             he
             repents
             ?
             whether
             he
             desire
             to
             be
             Baptised
             ?
             The
             living
             man
             answers
             from
             under
             the
             bed
             ,
             for
             the
             dead
             man
             ;
             Yea
             ,
             I
             do
             repent
             ,
             I
             do
             beleeve
             ;
             I
             desire
             to
             be
             Baptised
             ;
             after
             which
             they
             proceeded
             to
             Baptise
             the
             dead
             man
             :
             And
             Scripture
             they
             alledged
             for
             the
             Collouring
             of
             this
             absurdity
             ,
             1.
             
               Cor.
               15.
               29.
               
               Why
               are
               they
               then
               Baptised
               for
               the
               dead
               :
            
             and
             peradventure
             they
             might
             say
             ,
             it
             was
             as
             plain
             as
             any
             could
             be
             brought
             for
             the
             Baptisme
             of
             Infants
             .
             This
             was
             about
             the
             year
             180.
             so
             soon
             had
             men
             perverted
             the
             commands
             of
             Christ
             ,
             and
             were
             become
             Strangers
             to
             his
             wayes
             .
          
           
             I
             will
             leave
             all
             these
             things
             to
             your
             Judgement
             ,
             to
             
             try
             by
             the
             Touchstone
             what
             price
             is
             to
             be
             set
             upon
             them
             .
             The
             Lord
             give
             the
             Reader
             and
             Hearers
             understanding
             hearts
             .
          
        
         
           FINIS
           .
        
      
    
     
       
         
           Errata
           .
        
         
           Page
           7.
           
           Line
           ult.
           Reade
           
             {non-Roman}
             {non-Roman}
             {non-Roman}
             {non-Roman}
             {non-Roman}
          
           .
           Likewise
           P.
           8.
           L2
           .
           P.
           10
           ,
           L.
           4.
           supply
           I.
           P.
           18.
           
           L.
           5.
           
           Now
           instead
           of
           for
           ,
           P.
           24.
           
           L.
           25.
           
           Faith
           without
           ground
           ,
           is
           to
           begin
           the
           Opponents
           speech
           ,
           P.
           30.
           
           L.
           5.
           R.
           Parvulorum
           .
           P.
           31.
           
           L.
           23.
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