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A56149) Transcribed from: (Early English Books Online ; image set 64406) Images scanned from microfilm: (Early English books, 1641-1700 ; 250:E140, no 19) The altar dispute, or, A discovrse concerning the severall innovations of the altar wherein is discussed severall of the chiefe grounds and foundations whereon our altar champions have erected their buildings / by H. P. Parker, Henry, 1604-1652. [3], 78 [i.e. 80] p. Printed by R. Cotes for Samuel Enderby ..., London : 1641 [i.e. 1642] Year of publication from Thomason Coll. Reproduction of original in Thomason Collection, British Library. eng Altars -- England -- Early works to 1800. Great Britain -- Religion -- 17th century. A56149 R21276 (Wing P393). civilwar no The altar dispute, or A discourse concerning the severall innovations of the altar, vvherein is discussed severall of the chiefe grounds and Parker, Henry 1642 28129 113 130 0 0 0 0 86 D The rate of 86 defects per 10,000 words puts this text in the D category of texts with between 35 and 100 defects per 10,000 words. 2005-01 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2005-01 Aptara Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2005-02 Ben Griffin Sampled and proofread 2005-02 Ben Griffin Text and markup reviewed and edited 2005-04 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion The Altar Dispute , OR A DISCOVRSE CONCERNING THE SEVERALL INNOVATIONS OF THE ALTAR , Wherein is discussed severall of the chiefe grounds and foundations whereon our Altar Champions have erected their buildings . By H. PARKER Hebr. 13. 10. Wee have an Altar whereof they have no right to eate , which serve the Tabernacle . LONDON , Printed by R. Cotes for Samuel Enderby , and are to bee sold at his Shop at the Signe of the Starre in Popes-head-Ally . 1641. TO THE RIGHT HONOVRABLE WILLIAM LORD Viscount SAY , and Seale Master of his Highnesse Court of Wardes and Liveries , and one of his Majesties most Honourable privie Counsell . MY LORD , THe severall concurrent attempts which were made of late upon the setled doctrine and discipline of our Church begot jealous conceits in mee , that either our Religion had been hitherto erroneous , or was likely to prove unsure for the future . Some blame , me thought , was due either to former times , that they had not beene wise in receding from Rome so far as they had done , or to the present for not being sincere in returning so fast back againe . To excuse both 〈…〉 secure in points of so great concernment , 〈◊〉 , and tendernesse of conscience would not permit , and to be rash in my censure without search , and diligent study seemed unjust , and unchristian : wherefore that I might purchase to my selfe being thus perplexed just and fayre satisfaction , and ex●ricate my selfe out of the mischieves of stupidity and temerity both , I did seriously addict my selfe notwithstanding the dissuasions of my owne particular profession , interest and want of 〈…〉 debate , ventilate , and examine the novelties of the time . And verily , as to my selfe , my indeavours were not long successesse , for I did at last perceive that there was more danger in our innovators then depth in our Innovations : and as to some others not injudicious , I found them concurring with mee in opinion , and incouraging mee withall to make my observations more publick . My Lord , I know none more desirous to diffuse good then your Honour , nor scarce any better meane whereby to diffuse it to others then your 〈…〉 wherefore I beseech this as an addition to 〈◊〉 former favours , that I may 〈…〉 Honoured Name , whereby to make more acceptable to all good men thesepoore indeavours of Your most gratefully devoted servant and Allies-man H. P. Errata . Page 8. l. 30. for Lev ; Min: read Lincolnshire Mr. p. 11. l. 9. for exception r. acception , p. 12. l. 9. for opposed r. opposite , p. 26. l. 22. for trnd r. round . p. 27. l. 13. for instituted r. instructed , p. 30. l. 14. for specified r. speciphicall , p. 34 , l. 12. for portable r. probable , l. 14. probable , r. portable , p. 35. l. 7. for Western r. Eastern p. 37. l. 16. for stranger r. stronger . p. 40. l. 1 for po . r. posture . p. 45 l. 23. for not , r. most , p. 54. l. 10. read of Peter , p 72. l. 5. for supposition r. suppositum . p. 74. l. 27. for consecrated , r. unconsecrated THE ALTAR DISPVTE , OR DISCOVRSE , CONCERNING THE SEVERALL INNOVATIONS OF THE ALTAR . Of ALTARS . A Great Faction of Church-men has of late yeares , by many severall innovations attempted to alter our Religion , and to new reforme that Reformation of it which was begunne by Edw. 6. and further matured by Queene Eliz. The pretence was , that our Ancestors in the Reformation did depart too farre from Popery , out of favour to Puritanicall Calvin , and so the designe was , to have brought in Popery againe ; but with a muzzle upon it at first ( as Sir Ben. Ruddlard sayes ) which muzzell would soone have falne off , or beene taken off , as is generally conceived , Amongst other innovations , much care was had of Altars , many bookes were printed and set forth by authority in favour of them , but no man was suffered to say do , or write any thing in answer or prejudice thereof . The times are now a little more propitious , and that audaciates me beyond my learning , or profession to enterprise at this time something for the better clearing of the truth in this case concerning Altars . If I faile not for want of learning and judgement , I shall not for want of ingenuity , and modesty ; and I wish that our Altar-Patrons had not beene so scurrilous , and bitter as they have beene ; for it seemes to me , that the venemous raylings and distempers of men within sacred Orders , when they are treating of matters of Religion , cast a great disgrace upon the age we are borne in , the Countrey we are bred in , the Religion we are Baptized in . In this Altar-dispute , foure things come into question . 1 Concerning the reality of Altars . 2 Concerning the propriety of the names . 3 Concerning the Altar posture . 4 Concerning the sanctity of the Altar or its due adoration . CHAP. 1. 1 Concerning the reality of Altars . AS for the maintaining of reall , and proper Altars , Doctor Heylin layes these grounds . Hee sayes , that the Passion of our Saviour , as it was prefigured to the Jewes in the legall Sacrifice , a parte ante : so by Christs Institution it is to be commemorated by us Christians in the holy Supper a parte post . A Sacrifice it was in figure , a Sacrifice in fact , and so by consequence a Sacrifice in the commemoration , or upon the post fact . He sayes further , that if a Sacrifice be , there must also be both Priest and Altar . Yet he assignes these differences , that the former Sacrifices were bloody , as this is not ; that the former Priests were from Aaron , ours from Melehisedeck ; that the former Altars were for Mosaicall , ours for Evangelicall Sacrifices . To shew the weaknesse of these grounds , we answer : that the word Sacrifice taken in a generall sense for any sacred office , or divine service performed , does not inferre any propriety of either Priest , or Altar ; and if we take Sacrifice in that serise , as the Patriarchs , Jewes , or Heathens did , or as Papists now doe : we grant Priests , and Altars are necessarily implied thereby , but such a Sacrifice we deny our Communion to be . T is true , the Passion of our Saviour was prefigured in Sacrifices a parte ante , but very darkly ; and if Cain , Abel , Noah , or Aaron , did sacrifice to fore-signifie the death of Christ : yet their maine , or their meere end was not to make any such type , or figure . Sacrifices were from the beginning as well before Aaron , as after , but the knowledg of our Saviors death was obscure under Aaron , but much more before the most knowing times under the Law , did not expect such a suffering dying Redeemer , as God had ordained , much lesse did those more cloudy times before the Law . The Rock in the Wildernes , the Manna , and divers other things were typicall , yet no Sacrifices , and Sacrifices may as well be , not typicall , and euen those Sacrifices which are typicall , are not typicall , qua Sacrifices , more then Types are Sacrifices , qua Types . By the very light of nature , all Nations did agree in all ages in presenting their God both with free will-offerings in testimony of his goodnesse , and with expiatory Sacrifices in testimony of their owne sinfulnesse . Howsoever , all such oblations , whether expiatory or gratulatory were equally Sacrifices , though not equally typicall ; for all expiatory Sacrifices were not bloody onely , nor all gratulatory unbloody . We read of Cain and Abel before the institution of Aarons Order , that the one presented to God his homage in part of his flocke , the other in part of his graine ; the one did sacrifice upon an Altar as well as the other : and that Sacrifice which was unbloody was typicall , and expiatory as well as that which was bloody , and that which was bloody might be graulatory as well as that which was unbloody , or at least nothing appeares to the contrary . We read also of Noah that he had a distinct notice of cleane and uncleane creatures , and did sacrifice accordingly , so that the Religion and Priesthood before the Law was not so farre different from that under the Law , though pompe and ceremonies and some other accidentall parts were wanting , as from ours under the Gospel : or at least in matters of Sacrifice , it was little or not at all different . All Sacrifices also under the Mosaicall Law were not bloody , for Incense was offered to God as well as flesh ; and there was an Altar for Odours , as well as for blood : and all Sacrifices whatsoever received their value and acceptation from the Passion of Christ , as that did purifie them , not as they did typifie that : for it seemes else that other divine services should not be so valuable , and acceptable as Sacrifices , not those Sacrifices which were lesse typicall , as those which were more : and that no Sacrifices at all had beene admitted of by God from such men as did not understand their typicall nature , as few did either before , or under the Law . Besides it does not appeare that the Passion of Christ , was a proper , reall Sacrifice in fact , and therefore it was necessary that it should be prefigured , yet no necessity is , that it should be prefigured by Sacrifice a parte ante , or commemorated by Sacrifice a parte post . The death of our Saviour was rather a pious Passion , then a divine action , or service done to God , and though our Saviour did not resist , or shunne such a martyrdome wickedly inforced by other ; yet he was not so active in it , as to imbrue his owne hands in his owne blood . So that if our Saviours Passion was a Sacrifice , it was but a figurative , improper , mentall Sacrifice , in as much as the meritorious sanctity thereof did not consist in the act done , but in the innocence , patience , and excellence of the party suffering . We cannot more properly call the death of Christ a Sacrifice , then we may the Crosse the Altar , or God the Priest , and we cannot properly say that God did sacrifice to himselfe upon an Altar of that forme and matter . It is a very lame inference therefore , that Sacrifice must now be to commemorate Christs Passion past , because it was prefigured by Sacrifice being yet to come , and because it was it selfe a proper Sacrifice in the act Doctor Heylin sayes once , that Christ did not deprive us of all manner of Sacrifices , but onely those which had beene before , which might , if continued , have beene a strong presumption of his not comming in the flesh . This seemes a weake reason , for if our Saviours Passion were a proper Sacrifice , it was a bloody one , and if there be the same reason of representing it past , as there was future by Sacrifice , then bloody Sacrifices are no lesse proper now to represent it , then they were before : and if so , why were former Sacrifices abolished at all Surely the best reason why Jewish Sacrifices were abolished , is because those services were but shadowes of that body , which in our Sacrament is really presented and exhibited . If we doe acknowledge that the body of our Saviour is otherwise present in our Sacrament then it was in the Jewish Types , we must acknowledge that the shadowes of that body are the lesse needfull : for gianting that Jewish Sacrifices and ours differ not in nature , but in circumstance ; as their signifie a thing future , ours past , I doe not see but that our Sacrament is as meere a shadow , as their Sacrifice was , and that beasts now slaine might as well commemorate our Saviours death past , as they did prefigure it to come . The Doctor sayes that the Jewish Sacrifices were bloody , ours not ; that the Jewish Priests were from Aaron , ours from Melchisedeck ; and these he puts as substantiall differences , tomake our Sacrament no Jewish Sacrifice . But these differences are not sufficient for his purpose , because we know that all Jewish Sacrifices were not bloody , nor does the order of Melchisedeck hinder from bloody Sacrifices , for if Melchisedeck did sacrifice , as it is most probable that he did , it is as probable that his Sacrifices were not all unbloody . So then his other difference also is as fond , when he sayes that our Altars are for Evangelicall , not Mosaicall offerings ; in as much as betwixt Evangelicall and Mosaicall offerings , he has not yet proved any other difference , but nominall , or circumstantiall onely : of the like reason and weight are the rest of the Doctors inferences , for as he has proved yet no true proper Sacrifice , so much lesse has hee proved any necessity of either Priest , or Altar in a downe-right sense . We may grant Sacrifice , yet deny both Priest , and Altar , for we read that the Passeover was called the Lords Sacrifice , yet we know it was not killed only by Priests , nor eaten upon an Altar , though it was the most honourable of Jewish Sacrifices , and most neerely relating to the Passion of Christ . So also the Passion it selfe of Christ , if it was a proper Sacrifice , yet it was offered up upon a woodden Crosse , not a stone Altar , and the Sacrificer thereof was not a Priest ; wherefore we see plainely that all the Doctors allegations hitherto are frivolous , and altogether insufficient . We come now from the Old , to the New Testament , and here Doctor Pocklington , and Master Meade lay hold of these words of our Saviour . Leave thy gift at the Altar , and g●e and reconcile thy selfe to thy brother , &c. These words were spoken by our Saviour , whilst the Altar was in use , and before the Communion was instituted , and may more properly be interpreted of such an Altar , as men did repaire to with gifts , and offerings , then to our Tables , where we come rather to receive then give ; yet our Divines now cite them to patronise the word Altar . It would little advance the reality of Altars that they had beene so named once by our Saviour : but here so much as the name used is not cleerely proved . Doctor Heylin for his next evidence , cites 1 Cor. 11. Doe this in remembrance of me , &c. As often as yee eate this bread , and drinke this cup , yee shew forth the Lords death till be come . Here is ( sayes Doctor Heylin ) a Sacrifice whose nature is commemorative , here is in this Sacrifice an Hoe facite for Priests , different from the Hoc edite , & bibite of Lay-men : and so here is proofe both for Sacrifice and Priest : by this proofe it seemes , that the life of the Sacrament consists in this that it is a Sacrifice , and that the life of the Sacrifice consists in this that the Priest consecrates it , not that the people of God celebrate it ; but I take this as a strange glosse of the Doctors , not agreeable to common understanding , or naturall to the text , or savouring of Protestantisme , and so I leave it as not worth an answer . He cites further , 13. Heb. Habemus Altare : and so he concludes that Saint Paul furnishes us both with Priest , Sacrifice , and Altar ; if Saint Paul did here by Altar meane the Table , here is some authority for the name , not thing , but this is it selfe controverted : for first , it is plaine that the word Altar is taken for the epulum , not the thing upon which it was offered , for of this Altar , it is said that they may not eat which serve at the Tabernacle . Secondly , the Papists do not alwayes here by Altar interpret our Communion Table , and therefore sayes Bellarmine , Non urgeo hune loeum quia non desunt ex Catholicis , qui interpretantur de cruce , vel de Christo ipso , &c. But sayes the Doctor , I am not the first of the Church of England , that so interpret it , for Bishop Andrews has it thus : The Altar in the Old Testament is called Mensa Domini , by Malachy , and of the holy Table the Apostle in 13. Heb. sayes , Habemus Altare . The Lev. Minister here rightly answers , that the Apostle here cals the Table , Altar no otherwise then as Malachy cals the Altar Table , and that must needs be improperly : for the Jewish Altar was not a proper Table , more then the Table whereon the Shew-bread stood was an Altar . It is certaine and plaine that the Syriack word , Luke 22. and the Hebrew in Saint Matthew is Table , and not Altar . And Saint Paul , Heb. 10. useth the word Mensa , and the word {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} is frequent , and not denyed to be proper , but the word {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} is seldome used for the Table , and not properly at all , if we doe grant it at all used for Table , as is questioned . And therefore Bellar. gives a reason why the Apostles all their time used no other word then Table , especially not Altar ; to which opinion the Bishop of Durham agrees , though not to the reason of it . And we know also that the Romish pictures present Christ , and his Disciples in their Churches communicating alwayes at a Table , not at an Altar . We come now to the practise of the Antients , and they ( as Doctor Heylin sayes ) without scruple , or opposition , used the words Priest , Sacrifice , and Altar , not tying themselves only to those words ; but not shunning the use of them : but the truth is , the Greek Fathers used the word Table more frequently , the Latin lesse ; but both Greek and Latins used the word Table more frequently then Altar . But upon the reformation begunne by Luther , &c. both words beganne to be examined , and then the Protestants not allowing the Sacrament to be a Sacrifice , rejected Altar as improper , but the Papists , though they pretend not to disallow the word Table , yet in their reformed Canon of the Masse , they used not at all the word Table : and yet still in the Roman Pontificall we finde the word Table used . Howsoever the dispute being not about the meere use , but sense of the word Altar , we come now to other arguments . All metaphors ( sayes Doctor Heylin ) allude to something which has reall existence in nature , and therefore the Fathers in the word Altar , did allude to something existent . I answer , Metaphors must have some basis to support them , but that basis may be any thing past , or incorporeall : Christ may bee called the brazen Serpent , the sting of conscience may be called Ixions wheele , &c. Yet there is no such thing now as the one , nor ever was as the other ; but ( sayes Doctor Pocklington ) those Altars which bore carpets , corporals , &c. could not be meer notionall , metaphoricall Altars , but such were those of the Antients , &c. Ergo . I answer , the same thing might be a notionall Altar , yet a materiall Table , and , as it was a materiall Table , it might support carpets , &c. That cursed Tree whereon our Saviour suffered , was a metaphoricall Altar ; yet it did not truly beare our Saviour , as an Altar , but as a Crosse : but ( sayes the same Doctor againe ) these Altars were such as were frequented for oblations sakes , to which none came without Sacrifices of wealth , as well as of prayse . I answer , for presents and almes Tables are as proper as Altars ; and such being but metaphoricall Sacrifices prove the Table to be the rather a metaphoricall Altar : but ( sayes Doctor Heylin ) some Sacrifices are meerely spirituall , and to such no materiall Altar is requisite , for such the heart is a sufficient Altar , and every man is a sufficient Priest : but the Sacrament is a Sacrifice , not onely spirituall and mysticall , but also externall and visible , and to such a Sacrifice , a visible Priest and materiall Altar is requisite . This is answered already in the Paschall Lam● , for that was a Sacrifice visible and externall , yet it required no materiall Altar ; and so it may be said of our Saviours crucified body : besides , we may make a difference with Saint August . betweene the Sacrament it selfe , and that which is visible in the Sacrament , and so deny any visible Altar to be necessary ; and for further instance , man is said to offer up his soule and body to God as a reasonable Sacrifice , and the body being materiall , does not require any materiall , grosse Altar : but , sayes D. Heylin , if the Sacrament be but an improper metaphoricall Sacrifice , then no more a materiall Table , then a materiall Altar is requisite . I answer , though in that exception of a Sacrifice it be metaphoricall ; yet as a Communion , it is a reall action , and requires a reall Table whence to communicate . So the Passion of our Savior , it was a tropical Sacrifice , but a proper execution , and therfore though our Saviour was sacrificed without a proper Altar , yet he was not executed but upon a proper Crosse : but ( sayes the same Doctor ) if the Sacrament be an improper , immateriall Sacrifice ; it may not onely be celebrated without a Table , but without a Church also : any place may serve for such a Sacrifice : the Pulpit , the Pewe , the Belfrie , the Chancell may bee as proper Altars as the holy Table , and what a prophane Doctrine is this ? We doe say that any place may be as properly called an Altar , but not that any place may be as fitly and honourably imployed to communicate in . Our Saviour did communicate in a common roome upon a common Table for necessities sake ; and so we in case of necessity dare not despise such communicating , but we use not this example to prove a parity of all places : the Doctor knowes this is but a slanderous consequent , issuing out of his malice , not out of our tenet ; for if the honour of the Sacrament doe not wholly consist in being a Sacrifice , or the honour of Sacrifice in the externall worke done , there is no more necessity of Altar , then Table ; or that either Altar or Table should be held so essentially honourable to the Sacrament , and this may be held by him , which holds not all places equall and indifferent for divine services . Wherefore , as for Saint Cyprians rule : Eucharistia in altari consecratur , which Doctor Pocklington affirmes to be undenyable : we say it must stand with our Saviours example , who did administer the Eucharist upon a reall Table , but upon an imaginary Altar , and so we are not opposed to it : but ( sayes Doctor Heylin further ) materiall Altars are very antient in the Church , which if they were not erected for our Sacrifices , certainely they were for Popish , and this will prove Popery to be very antient , I answer , the Doctor has not proved formall stone Altars so antient , but if he had , he has not proved antiquity free from all error , and superstition , but we can easily prove the contrary : but Doctor Heylin proceeds thus ; he which teaches that in the Primitive Church there was neither Priest , Sacrifice , nor Altar , properly so called , brings in confusion and ruine into the Church , takes away all externall worship , inables every man to the Priestly function , and robs the Church of all due reverence . This is a strange inference that I cannot sufficiently honour the Sacrament , but under the name of Sacrifice , nor Ministers , but under the name of Priests ; nor the Communion-Table , but under the name of Altar . D. Heylins supposition herein of me , must bee more weighty then my own certain knowledge of my self . Doctor Pocklington also concurres herein , for hee which denyes Altars ( sayes hee ) may as well deny Churches , and he which denyes Churches , may as well deny the Throne of Bishops in the Quire neere the Altar-place , and he which denyes Thrones , denyes the truth of Christian Religion : by a strange dismembred , deformed kinde of argumentation ; he makes Altars as necessary to be beleeved , as Thrones of Bishops ; and Thrones , as the succession of Bishops ; and the succession of Bishops , as the rocke and foundation of all Religion . Cartwright , Ames , and those of Geneva , and all other Countreys which cannot derive their lineall succession of Bishops from the Apostles are Puritanes , and Heretiques : though they scarce differ from us in any other point of consequence , yet in this they are in worse condition then the Papists . The Anchor of our Salvation is , that my Lord of Canterbury is lineally descended from Saint Peter , for no inthronization of Bishops , no personall succession ; and no personall succession , no derivation of faith can be from God to , &c. Were not this written against Puritans , or by such as have an authority to prove quidlibet ex quolibet , it would deserve laughter , and not an answer : but now we must be more serious . The allegation is , that there is the same evidence for Altars , as Thrones , and therefore since it is most impious to deny Thrones , it is the like to deny Altars . I wish Thrones had beene better proved , for if Thrones doe prove Altars , yet men of such ordinary faiths as mine may something scruple Thrones themselves . Saint Aug. sayes that Thrones were remaining at Rome and Jerusalem till his dayes from the very Apostles times . Saint Augustin might see thrones standing in both places , but when they were first raised , or by whom , or for whom , or for what reason ; he could not understand but by relation , and what that relation might be , he has not exprest : neither doe I thinke that his maine hope of salvation was chained to that relation , neither can I chaine mine to the same ; for my part , I am so farre from making Thrones or Altars my soules anchorage , that I beleeve neither to be Apostolicall , and till the Doctor can better convince me of them , I could wish hee would call in his Anathemaes ; or rather Epigrams against such Atheists as I am : but ( sayes Doctor Pocklington further ) No Altar , no Priest ; no Priest , no Rubrick , &c. but we say in answer , First , that the relation betweene Priest and Altar is not inseparable , as has beene proved . Secondly that the word Priest derived from {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} implyes not reall Sacrifice . Thirdly , if we did reject the word Priest utterly as lesse proper then Minister , and lesse fit to be used ( as Sir Francis Bacon maintaines ) and as we doe not affect to use it , yet we reject not the thing with the name , the same Ministry , the same sacred order we retaine , and honour , and hold it as revenerd as either Jew , or Papist doe their sacrificing Priest-hood . But what consequence is this ? no Priest , no Ordination ; no Ordination , no Rubrick ; no Rubrick , no Law . He which opposes the word Priest onely , does not oppose the thing ; and he which opposes not the thing , opposes not the Rubrick ; and he which opposes not the Rubrick , opposes not the Parl. establishing it : it is sufficient that we oppose neither the thing Priest , nor the word , except onely in its Popish sense as it intimates reall Sacrifice to us . I come now to such proofes as cleere antiquity from meaning of reall proper Altars . And first wee read the word Altar sometines in the workes of antient Authors , but that is no proofe that Altar was the common terme or word so used in common speech , of that there is no proofe , or colour at all ; it is ordinary to use Metaphors in studied discourses , and as unusuall to use them in our ordinary language . That the word Table was first in common use at the beginning is very credible , that it is now wholly disused amongst Papists is evident , therefore when we see the change , but cannot perceive the certaine time or motion of that change , as it happens in the shadow upon the Sun-diall , we may well suppose that the mystery of inquity has had its secret operation upon it , as upon divers other things . We finde secondly , in the most antient times , that it was a common objection made against Christians by Jewes , Pagans , and renegado Christians , that they had neither Churches , Altars , nor Images . And to this common objection we finde that the greatest Apologetick , and most learned Divines of those dayes did all unanimously yeeld that they had no materiall proper Altars , nor no other but Metaphoricall onely . Clesus objected to Origen that the Christians did avoid to raise {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} . Caecilius askes Octavius , Cur nullas aras habent , templa nulla , nulla nota simulacra ? Arnobius sayes to his adversaries , Nos accusatis quod nec templa habeamus , nec imagines , nec aras . And Julian who had beene a Christian , and knew their worship well enough , and lived after the erection of Churches , yet sayes to Cyrill , offerre in altars , & sacrificare cavetis : 't was strange if any Christian Altars then were , that neither Heathens , nor apostate Christians should know thereof : and yet the more s●●ange that this being objected against Christians , and not being true , that Christians would not justifie themselves against so manifest an untruth . Origen answers that the Christians Altar was his understanding , and that prayers were his {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} . Octavius answers that the Church Sacrifice was bonus animus , sincera mens , & pura conscientia . Arnobius confesses sacrifices , but not corporeall , agreeing with the former that they were mentall only . And Cyrill gives not a deny all to Julian . Is it not to be wondred at , that so many men , of severall places and times , should all so farre prevaricate , and make such fond answers , if they could have advantaged their owne cause , or satisfied their adversaries , by affirming proper Altars , and such reall Sacrifices , as our Doctors now affirme ? How easie had it beene , and how true , & how necessary was it to have made this direct answer ? Persecution suffers not Christians to build such sumptuous Churches and Altars as you doe : but we have Altars as proper , and would build Temples as stately as you doe , if we had power and liberty ; we deny not al Sacrifices , as you erroneously object , we deny not true , visible , externall Sacrifices , we deny only Jewish , bloody , and meerly corporeall Sacrifices : so that the force of that objectiō is against our hard condition , not against our worship or Religion . But Mr. Mede sayes that these Apologeticall Divines denyed Altars , under the Heathen name {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} , not denying the Church word {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} : whereby he accounts them meere cheaters , and triflers , not regarding whom they treated withall , or the current sense of the words according to common acception , but desiring to obscure truth , and deinde their opponents , this is to bee slighted as a toy . Pocklington takes pains to prove Churches out of the Scripture , & antiquity , & sayes that those Churches had Altars , to which none came without oblations , and that with those oblations , captives , widowes , orphans , &c. were relieved . He also insists upon the great names of Thrones and Syndos : but his proofes are most of them indefinite , both to time , place , and thing . We say , that before Constantine few Churches were , especially so formally , built with Thrones , and other divisions , as he seemes to intimate , and in respect of the vast surface of the earth scarce visible , or considerable , especially to severall men , living in severall places , and at severall times , such as the Apologeticks were . And yet the word Church is taken sometimes for any place where God was publikely worshipt , and sometimes for the congregation it selfe of the faithfull named by such a Towne , City , or Country ; and in this sense , and no other the Church of Rome , is said to maintaine in it , 1. Bishop , 46. Priests , 7. Deacons , 7. Sub-Deacons , 42. Acolythites , Exorcists , Readers , Porters , 52. Widowes , 1500. Poore . It is not meant that any locall materiall Church in Rome during the times of persecution , was so rich , capacious , or stately : for this would evince more then a meere toleration of christianity , and yet we read not of so much . Hospinian for the ●●ace betwixt Christ and Constantine more reasonably collects , that those Altars which were then , were neither fixed nor of stone , which sufficiently cleeres that they were woodden unfixed Tables , not stone , and fixed Altars : for if Christians during Heathenisme , had liberty to build and meete in such formall Churches , and had such Synods , Thrones , Libraries , Schooles , Gazophylacies , as the Doctor labours to prove , they could not want power , or opportunity to adorne or inrich Altars , or to fix them and fashion them as they pleased . And thus the ages before Constantine might be defective in Discipline by reason of persecution , and we may suspect the ages after for their superstition . Constantine was too pompous in Discipline , and soone inclined to Arianisme , and long deferred his owne Baptisme ; in his times the foundations of Popish usurpation beganne to be laid . Then it was said , hodie venenum infusum est Ecclesiae : then it was said , That there were as many Religions as opinions , and opinions as men . I ascribe not to antiquity such infallibility as some do , and yet many things might fit those times which fit not ours , and many things may be misreported , misunderstood , and mistaken by us in these times ; wch perhaps were not in such repute of old , as we now beleeve . Our third reason against materiall and proper Altars , is grounded upon the Fathers . Eusebius often cals that of Christians , an unbloody , and reasonable Sacrifice : the word Unbloody is used in opposition to corporeall and sensitive things , the word Reasonable , to reall or vegetative things ; for if we conceive that Reasonable , and Unbloody distinguish from Jewish Sacrifices , we must understand notionall , or mentall Sacrifices , because the Jewish were not all bloody . The same Eusebius also sayes that we are appointed to offer daily to God the commemoration of Christs Sacrifice {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} . A Kings deputy is entertained as a King , and its an honour to him ; but Kings are not entertained as deputies , that 's derogatory : so , if this were a Sacrifice , it were an undervaluing , lessening word , to say it were a meere commemoration , or instead of a Sacrifice . In another place also he cals it {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} , that which is the representation of a proper Sacrifice , is not it selfe a proper Sacrifice , these things differ in predicament . And to put all out of doubt , Chrysostome by way of correction , for more proprieties sake , having call'd it a Sacrifice , addes this word {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} , to shew that it is in propriety but {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} . It may be called a Sacrifice figuratively , but in truth it is rather the remembrance of a Sacrifice . Our fourth reason is taken from the acts of our Ancestors in the reformation , who did expresse great dislike of Altars , and did remove , and abollsh the same as Popish innovations . We will therefore against Doctor Heylin , make these two things cleere . First , that the Reformers were very adverse to Altars . Secondly , that they were so upon just grounds . Constantines times , though not so pure as the former ; yet were farre more pure then those which succeeded ; for Antichrists entrance is obscure : he seemes likes Melchisedeck without pedegree , as to some of his mysteries of tyranny : He beganne to worke presently after the the infancie of the Church , but as to his solemne inthronization at Rome , he is much younger then Constantine . Tantae mo'is erat Romanam condere gentem . It appeares by Saint Ambrose his insulting over Theodosius that the Hierarchy was advanced in good times , and that by the blinde zeale of some men otherwise very good . Altars had gotten great adoration before St. Ambrose , but that adoration was not wholly abused till the installment of Antichrist ; and then the Sacrament was soone turned into a present propitiatory Sacrifice , and the forme of a Table being utterly rejected , a stone Altar was received into its place , and an immolating Priest ordained . Priest , Altar , Sacrifice , are now growne the common termes , and onely proper words , and though the instant creeping in of this factious change be not knowne , yet the change is now apparent , it is now is plaine , that these words are growne common , as it is that they were not so from the beginning . And for this cause our English Martyrs , were necessitated to use these words conversing with Papists at that time when no other words were current : and this is no proofe for the propriety thereof . Frith , Lambert , &c. mention their examination touching the Sacrament of the Altar : and so must I now repeate the same name , and so must any man in the same case , but what ? this mention or repetition proves not our approbation thereof . So that the Parliament , 1. Ed. 6. use the name both in the act , and in the writ granted thereby : but what ? neither was the tide of language yet turned , nor the reformation in any degree perfected : and so in the first Liturgy , the word Altar for the same reason is usually mentioned : but in the second Liturgy we see the better judgement , and more setled practise of the State , by the utter rejection of the very names of Sacrifice and Altar . But the Doctor replyes that the second Liturgy was introduced upon no other just consideration , but onely to please the fond , pragmaticall , puritanicall humor of John Calvin . King Edw. 6. comming to the Crowne 1547. found the enterprise of altering Religion very difficult and dangerous , and not suddenly to be expedited . Young he was , and destitute of a competent number of trusty , potent , and learned Ministers , and his Father had altered nothing but in discipline onely , and his taske now was to extirpate a sensuall Religion of great antiquity , and yet within sixe months he sets out his injunctions , wherein he prescribes divers things tending to a reformation . Some few months after in Parliament , the Sacrament is commanded to be administrrd sub utraque specie , and a Writ therefore awarded ; in both which Act and Writ , the vulgar common name is not yet disused . In 1548. Images are ejected , and a new celebration of the Sacrament ordered : The first Liturgy is now composed , and Bucer sent for , and as yet the word Altar is not quite relinquisht . In 1549. the King having thus farre adventured to countenance Protestantisme , he now adventures to strike at the heart of Popery , by pulling downe the Masse ; but this hee does by Proclamation , not daring to put it to votes in Parliament . Upon this a great rebellion is raised in the West , the French King also bidding defiance at the same instant ; and now Bucer first arrives . In 1550. great troubles hapned about the Protector , but the West being calmed , and the French threatnings diverted , Bishop Ridly is commanded to take downe Altars in his Diocese , and in Pauls Church it selfe the Altar-wall was removed : by the Kings letters also to Ridly , it appeares that Altars had beene displaced in many other parts before , and the Act is allowed by the King to be good and godly , though our Doctors now terme it an horrible outrage : and by this it seemes that Bucer and Calvin were not the first instigators thereof . In 1551. we read of Bucers death , and the arraignment , commitment , and execution of the Protector ; and now Hooper in his Sermon before the King , preaches against the remainder of Altars , yet standing as occasions of superstition . In 1552. a Parliament establishes the second Liturgy in stead of the first , and finally , and generally demolishes Altars , not using so much as the name of Sacrifice , or Altar . And by such limits and degrees did the Kings power increase , and the reformation ripen ; but amongst these publike affaires we may take notice also that some other considerable passages did intervene . Bucer about Autumne , 1549. received advertisements from Calvin not to be mediis consilii● authorem vel approbatorem , and to be instant with the Protector for the taking away of superstitious ceremonies . The like counsell also Calvin had sent to the Protector to goe on in abrogating all superstitions without regard of correspondence abroad , or peace at home , such cautions being onely requisite in civill , not divine affaires ; for in these the word of God is the strict rule , and nothing is more distastfull to God , then to alter ; or mitigate divine precepts according to worldly wisdome . His advise also was further that the Protector would hasten the compounding of ceremony differences , and to support Hooper , a man zealous against Altars , and ceremonies ; and one that had interest in the Duke of Northumberland . In his letters also to Farellus 1551. it appeares that Calvin had written to the King , and that his letters had beene gratiously accepted both by the King and his councell , and that the Arch-Bishop had wished him to write more frequently , and that the Arch-Bishop also had received letters from him ; and that the State had received the like advertisements from Bullinger also . These pious indeavours of Calvin seconded by Bullinger , &c. so honourably entertained by the King , and his Prelates and Counsellours of State ; nay , and by the whole Parliament , Doctor Heylin traduces as the busie offices of his tampering , practising , and unhappy medling : and thus through Calvins sides our heavenly inspired Ancestors are wounded , and through their sides our Religion . 'T is true , the first Liturgy had a Morall , though not a Mathematicall perfection in it ; and so it was attestated by Fox , &c. But this concludes not that therfore it was altered only to please Calvin ; for though in the first Liturgy , nothing was introduced but what was good and godly , as might be well justified ; yet that was more good and godly which was afterward introduced in the second : the one might bee as Nehemiahs Temple , the other as Solomons , both beautifull , yet one more beautifull : He that rightly considers the Acts of Edw. 6. and his short raigne , will wonder to see so much , not so little done in such a space of time : especially since his Peeres was so factious , his people so ignorant , and his Clergy so Popish . Had not Divines also beene so averse at home to reformation , the consultation of forrain Doctors was necessary , especially of such as had beene actors and spectators abroad in the like alterations : but such Doctors were now pretious in the world , the Harvest was farre too great for the Labourers , and the age also too queasie to endure their rigor . It is no wonder therefore if Bucer came not till two yeares after the beginning of the reformation , and if Calvin , Beza , and Bullinger , came not at all . Tantae molis erat Romanam extinguere gentem . Doctor Heylin supposes Calvin pragmaticall , because he was not sent for into England , though he proffered himselfe unsent for , and was so forward to ingage himselfe by his avisoes : but this is ill supposed , for Calvin was knowne to be a rigorous man against ceremonies , and the pompe of Prelates , and this made him terrible here in England . Hooper is a sure instance of this , for being a learned pious Bishop , his meere consent with Calvin cast him out of his Bishopricke , and scarce could he ever obtaine his reinvestment , though the King countenanced him , though Northumberland supported him , though the greatest of forraine Divines intreated for him . So tender a point , even in those dayes was it to touch upon ceremonies , the darling of Episcopacie , and so jealous were the holiest of our Prelates in a case of such concernment to Hierarchy . Certainly Hooper and Calvin had the same opposites , and friends ; and therefore though the King and Councell did not send for Calvin , Bullinger , &c. because the Popish and Episcopall faction hated them ; yet they kindldy embraced their counsels , and ( as farre as might be ) put them into execution . The meere Popish faction could not have deterred , or retarded the King and his councell , we see greater matters carried against that side , some other more potent enemies both Hooper and Calvin had even in those zealous times ; but in other ceremonies whatsoever difference might be , I doe not see but that in the amoving and condemning of Altars , all sides did fully agree , and that Ridly and Cranmer were as forward as either Hooper or Calvin . It is manifest also that Queene Eliz. in her restitution of Religion was as ill affected to them , as her brother had beene in his first reformation , abolishing both the name , forme , and use of them , and adhering wholly to the second Liturgy , and imitating in all things her brothers paterne . And it is as manifest , that in all the raigne of King James under any visitor whatsoever , there was no question ever moved concerning the name , nature , paterne , or adoration of any Altar , till these later yeares made them a ground of schisme . We may more probably guesse that Edw. the sixth , and the best of his Clegry would have followed Calvin further if they had had power , and further time to perfect their designes , then that they followed him too farre , being deceived by his P●ritanicall faction . But Doctor Heylin blames Calvin for being an enemy to middle counsels in performing Gods strict commands : not to regard humane policie in such divine affaires , the Doctor cals going on without fear or wit . We know how far Saul departed from Gods command for politick respects when he would offer Sacrifice before Samuel came , and when he would reserve some of the Amalekitish spoyle for Sacrifice ; yet this was not meere temporall wisedome : Sacrifice was his end , and the service of God in both , yet we know strict obedience had beene better accepted then such uncommanded Sacrifice : besides , though Saul was strictly commanded to destroy the Amalekites , yet he was not commanded to destroy the Amalekites without all preparation , consultation , or opportunity : Gods command did binde him from all mitigation in the execution of it , but not from all policie in effecting it . So King Edw. the sixth , received a command from God to expell Popery ; in this case for want of power , the King might awaite time and opportunity wherby to compasse his end , as he did ; but being master of opportunity , he might not by any dispensation depart from that end , or faile of executing his commission to the utmost . When Calvin dissuaded from middle counsels , he took notice withall of the ceasing both of forreine and civill warres , ( as appeares by his letters ) so that we may well suppose his counsell was chiefely touching the end , not the meanes : for the end is strictly defined by God in divine affaires , but the meanes are commonly left to humane advise . Let the Doctor carp at Calvin , and at our Ancestors , for crediting so medling a fellow , let him disdaine that Elijah , or Baptist-like spirit wherewith God had so plenteously anoynted him : but this is no warrant for us to doe the like . We may better imagine that Calvin was one of the blessedst instruments whom God fitted , and qualified for the most blessed imployment which was ever effected the redemption . Wee may 〈…〉 in Calvin and Luther , 〈◊〉 two Testaments of God rose againe after they ha● beene slaine in Babell , and after that their 〈◊〉 had laine unburied in the streets for so long a time , and that by their sacred testimony the sunne it selfe was relieved from a totall obseruation , and a greater , and more grosse darknesse was chased away from the face of Religion , then that which the Aegypti●ns groped with their hands . But ( sayes Doctor Heylin ) in Germany Altars are still retained ; and there the reformation was complete : and so complete reformation , and Altars may well subsist together . I answer , Altars doe remaine in Germany : but it seemes in the first place Luther was no favourer of them , for he reproves it in Carolostadiue , that he did by force shew downe Altars , when by dispute hee ought to have expelled them . Secondly , it appeares by the same story that Altar were in many places very offensive . Thirdly , the Lutherans use and repute their Altars as meere Tables : and we admit that the formall relation of an Altar , is not the externall forme as its wood or stone , round , or square , &c. but its imployment for Sacrifice We allow Occ●●●●padius to say , that for peace sake we abhorre not from the title of Sacrifice , so no deceit be carried under it . But we say , if not for peace , and such as is 〈◊〉 from deceit , wee doe abhorre the word Sacrifice , much more the thing . We allow with Zanchy also , Quod neque Christus , neque Apostoli prohibuern● Altaria , aut mondarunt , quod liguris mensis utantur : we allow both external forms in themselves indifferent made absit superstitio : nay Calvin himselfe ( that man of rigor ) did leave a stone Altar standing at La●sauna . But if Altars be not necessary causes , yet as they are possible occasions of superstition , with our Ancestors we reject them . The Fathers did use the words Altar , Sacrifice , &c. harmlesly as to themselves , but not as to others , who have mistaken their meaning therein ; but this very mistake is avoyded by our Ancestors . The Germans herein imitatethe Fathers , being not so scrupulous in a meere occasion of abuse ; I doe not say that they doe ill , but I say they doe not so well as we , who avoid all misinterpretation both in our selves and others ; besides that which is not necessary to them by Law , is so to us , for we are bound to beleeve , that such a King and such a Councell as ours were in the reformation , being instituted also by such forraine Doctors , would not have abolisht Altars contrary to the disposition of those diffrents times , but upon very good and godly considerations . And certainely if the forme and name of Altar we●● so considerable held to our sanctified illuminated Law-makers , then the reality thereof was of deeper consequence , and much more to be provided against . And therefore it is sufficient to alledge , that in our Liturgy in force there is no mention of Altars , or Sacrifices , and that Sacrifice which is mentioned in the Sacrament , is onely of spirituall praise , and that wherein other Hoste , but our soules and bodies are offered unto God . And so in our bookes of Homilies pub●●●●ly authorized , we are warried not to make a Sacrifice , but a memory of the holy Communion : And in the booke of Articles it in maintained 〈◊〉 he Popish Lande is a blasphe●●●● figment , and per●●●ious imposture , and we are not supplyed with any other in 〈◊〉 thereof ; and yet if our Communion be at all a Sacrifice so properly called , how can it differ from the Popish Lande ? So lastly in the 〈…〉 and inlarged by King James , 1603. The two Sacraments are there named , and called , one of Baptisme , the other of the Lords Supper ; there is no mention made of Altar , as if the Communion might fitly still be called the Sacrifice , or Sacrament of the Altar , as the name in Popish times . CHAP. II. Concerning the propriety of the Name . THus we see there is no Altar but tropicall , and the name cannot be proper , where the thing is improper : and yet we further say , that as the name Altar is lesse proper ; so it is also lesse antient then Table , and in both these respects lesse convenient to be used . For antiquity , D. Pocklington affirmes , that Noah built an Altar , and Noah being a Christian , his Altar was a Christian Altar ; and hence it results , that the Altar amongst Christians , is farre antienter then Table . To this we reply , that if Noah was not a Jew , because not descended of Judah , nor of the Mosaicall Religion , because he was many hundreds of yeares antienter then Moses , by the same reason he was not a Christian , being ancestor to Christ himselfe . And as for his Religion it does not appeare that hee had therein any nearer relation to Christ , then Moses , especially in Sacrifices , for as Moses had his bloody Sacrifices , so had Noah : and as Moses in his bloody Sacrifices did observe a distinction of cleane , and uncleane creatures ; so did Noah . Wherefore it Noah be no Jew , it followes not he was a Christian ; and if a Christian , it follows not his Altar was a Christian Altar ; and if a Christian Altar , it followes not that it is that Christian Altar , which we call the Communion Table . And surely Saint Ambrose is ill applyed , as to this purpose , to prove that the Christian is antienter then the Jew : as if that because Altars came in with Noah ; therefore Tables came not in till under the Ceremoniall Law , or as if it concerned us to strive about the generall indefinite words of Altar , or Table , in this dispute of the Communion Table . Our dispute is about that Table , or other utensill whereupon our Saviour did eate both the old Passover , and his new one ; and this Saint Matthew , and Saint Luke call a Table , using the same word as is used for that utensill whereon Dives his meate was served in ; and the Papists deny not the proprlety of this word , nor the use of the thing , onely Doctor Pocklington affirmes our Saviour to have supped upon the pavement , not that he can thereby averre his Altar , but that he may impugne our Table . If the Sacrament be a true Sacrifice , it followes not that Sacrifice ever implyes any Altar : but we have disproved it to be a Sacrifice , we prove it to be {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} , rather a commemoration of a Sacrifice , nay even that Sacrifice which it does commemorate , was not simply , it was but secundum quid a Sacrifice . Wee say our Saviours Passion as to its vertue was the most odoriferous Sacrifice that ever was , but as to its manner of oblation it might be as figurative a Sacrifice , as the Crosse was an Altar , or as the crucifiers were Priests ; and if Christ did by way of proper Sacrifice offer himselfe for us on the Crosse , yet it s no necessary result , that he so offers himselfe to us in the Sacrament : for the Sacrament , if it be any , it is but a commemorative Sacrifice at the most : but sayes Pocklington , he that admits commemorative Sacrifice , admite Sacrifice . Ergo . I answer , when we allow a two-fold Sacrifice , one of propitiation , another of commemration ; one reall , the other representative of the reall onely , we intend the 〈◊〉 to be proper , the other improper ; the one truly so-called , the other as it represents the true . So we difference a painted from a livingman , and a 〈◊〉 from a true King ; for ne●●lict is the picture a 〈◊〉 , nor the Actor a King , but improperly , But sayes M. Mede , admitting no true Sacrifice , yet the Table is a true Altar ; for Table and Altar both have the same genus : Altar and Table differ as Church and house , Altar is a holy Table , as Church is a holy house : so the difference is specified onely . I answer . First , all Sacrifice is not offered : as 〈◊〉 , some things are offered neither edible , nor potable , a Incense , and by this it seems that the relative for●●lity of an Altar is not meerely to support sacred repasts , as it should , if it were onely a sacred Table . Secondly , this crosses the typicall intention of Sacrifice , for in this sense Christ was no proper Sacrifice , nor his Crosse as Altar . Thirdly , in the Jewish Temple there was both a sacred Altar . & a sacred Table , and as they had severall names , so they were different in forme , and sitted 〈◊〉 severall uses , although both their uses were sacred . Fourthly , if we admit Table to be called Altar , in respect of the sacred food there pres●●ed , not thereon sacrificed , this opposes not our opinion , but it regard that holy Table expresses as much as Altar in Master Mede● sense ; but the word Altar does not alwayes e●presse so much as holy Table in our sense , as the vulgar now use it , for this reason it is not so fitly used in common speech . Fifthly , Altar is more 〈◊〉 and uncertaine then the holy Table ; for as Sacrifice is appliable to all diuine services of Heathens , Jewes , and Papists ; so Altar is as generall : but our Service here being more eminent and excellent , deserves a name as peculiar . A King is a man and more , hee is truly a man , yet his distinct name of King is more fit to be be used : for the title of King , includes the name of man ; but the name of man does not include the title of King . The Doctors being so egar for the names of Sacrifice and Altar , ought to have proved those name● the most honourable ; but of this they have made no proofe at all : for even amongst the Jewes , obedience , humiliation , and internall prostration of the soule was of more acceptation in the sight of God , then the flesh of Buls , or the fat of a thousand Rams . The Passeover also , which was both Sacrament and Sacrifice ; yet was farre more reverent as a Sacrament , then as a Sacrifice : and they which did keepe that with the inward preparation of an humbled spirit without legall purity , were more accepted ( as appeares by Hezekiahs Passeover ) then meere legall preparation could make any . Besides , the Table to our Sacrament is not as the Altar was to the Jewish Sacrifice , for the Jewish Altar did sanctifie the Sacrifice , but our Table borrowes its sanctity from the Sacrament . We therefore honour the Table as a sacred Utensill , but wee attract no honour from it , we hold it a diminution to name the Sacrament by the Altar , when we may more honourably name it by the body and blood of our Saviour . For our Princes sake we bowe to his chair , but we denominate not the Prince by his chaire , or bowe to the Prince for the chaires sake ; neither doe we disgrace the word Table , or Altar , when we denominate not the Sacrament by them , but contrary to the Papists , we rather name the Sacrament by the body of Christ , then by them , as we stile Kings rather by Nations then Castles , or Villages , though they be equally Lords of both . The Jewes had Sacraments more honourable in nature then meere Sacrifices , and our Sacraments are farre more pretious then the Jewish , and therefore the wrods Sacrifice and Altar must needs be lessening words to our Sacrament . And were they not lessening words , yet for other reasons , wee see our Ancestors have disused them ; and chosen rather to nominate the Sacrament by the body of Christ , then to descend to a community of name therein with Jewes , Pagans , and Papists . And we may conceive , that if our Ancestors had no respect to future abuse in abolishing the words Sacrifice , and Altar ; yet they might have to former : for Altars as they are Jewish are to be deserted , as Paganish detested , as Popish abhorred . The brazen Serpent might have remained as free from abuse after Hezekiahs dayes , as it had done before ; and yet though the sinne night have beene reformed , & the thing reserved , that good King out of indignation , as wel as prevention , takes it away , and defaces it . We may read further of this , Exod. 23. 13. For the same reason the Greek Fathers would not use the word {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} , but {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} , nor the Latins aru , but Altare : because they would avoid community with Heathens , though there was no sinne in the bare words . And this kinde of detestation is commended as pious by Sir Francis , Bacon , even against words in themselves offencelesse , where better choyce may be had , and where great abuse has beene offered . To conclude then , if words may bee prophaned , and made unchristian , meerely by comming into the mouths of Pagans , &c. Surely much more impurity and offence is likely to stick upon the things themselves : but in things abused by Papists , wherein we ought to to elongue our selves from them , I thinke we ought not to look upon them as the Primitive Christians did the Jewes , but as the Jewes did Heathens . For the Jewish Religion had beene true , and was rather altered then abolisht , and that in accidents , rather then in substance ; and so we must not hold of the Popish schisme . And it may be conceived , that our Ancestors in the reformation did shun correspondence and conformity with Papists in some things and words otherwise indifferent , not onely for conscience sake , but also out of policie ; for my opinion is that our approaching towards Popery in some of their rites , and traditions , does the more obdurate Papists , and make our cause seeme a weake and warping cause . But this is a sic videtur onely ; Iobtrude it upon no man , it may be the good worke which the piety of these warping times seemes so willing to incline to , is more visible to Doctor Heylin , then it is to me . CHAP. III. Concerning the Altar posture . AS for the posture of the Altar or Table , it is not of it selfe of much consequence , but our Innovators are now very strict in urging it upon us , and that onely for innovations sake . Doctor Pocklington in favour of this Posture , takes great paines to prove that Christianity for the first two hundred yeeres , was not so oppressed and persecuted , but that Churches and Altars might have beene ; but 〈◊〉 those Heathen Emperours did not extirpate Religion , this is no proofe that they did protect it : and if they were some way indulgent to the persons of Christians , this is no proofe that they were not adverse to the Religion of Christians ; we will rather admit with Platina , that the Christians had no Churches for 150. yeares , but onely Sac●●● abdita & plerunque subterranea ; and though under Pius the first , some meane Churches were , yet under Dioclesian they were demolisht againe ; and therfore it is most portable , as he sayes , that during those times of uncertainty and calamity , Altars were unfixt and probable , or ( according to Strabo ) placed ad diversas plagas propter aliquam locorum opportunitatem , and G● . Biel mentions a woodden Altar , at which the Popes did officiate ; and it was removed from place to place , Vbic●nque Roman●s Episcopus latuerit . These descriptions agree rather with a Table then an Altar , and rather with our 〈◊〉 thereof then theirs : but it is a wonder , since the Doctors would faine prove such toleration of Religion , that Churches and Altars might have beene before Constantine , that they make no proofe at all that any were ; but even since Constantines time , Altar posture is but poorely maintained . Doctor Heylin for his first proofe alleadges , that the Primitive Christians prayed towards the East , and that the reason thereof was , because the Table was plac●● at the East end of the Church . And sayes he , if the Table was placed East-ward , then doubtlesse in the most eminent part of the East , that no man might have place beyond it : for any man standing beyond the Table , must either not pray towards the East , or not towards the Table . Be it granted that the Antient Christians had a custome to pray {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} , and that because our Sauiour hung upon the Crosse with his face West-ward , as both may be questioned ; yet this we receive onely from writers which lived West from Judea , where our Saviour was crucified , and this justifies it not in the Westerne parts of Christendome , and if it does , yet what followes ? does the reason of this maintaine the Altar posture . So is it therefore a sinne to take the wall of the Altar when we pray ? or if thi● be a sinne , can it be no wayes avoided , but by the Altar posture ? Amongst the Jewes , the West was most honourable , and yet the Arke was not so fixed to the West wall of the Oracle , that the Cherubins might not stand betweene ; and therefore honour is not alwayes rigorously , and superstitiously to be applyed Besides , if our Saviours posture on the Crosse be the rule of our posture in our dev●●ions , this rule extrud● not to all Christians , but onely to such as lie West from Judea ; for those which lie East , by the same rule , if they will not turne their backs to our Saviour ought to turne their faces to the West : but why should any certaine postures bee held so necessary , when all nations cannot agree in the same for the same reason ? Whatsoever was formerly by some imagin'd , we know that the East is named so from the rising of the Sunne , and wee know the Sunne has neither rising not setting , but comparative , and so America is as properly East , as China , for if America lie West to us , yet it lies East to China ; which lies East to us . The Doctor tels as not certainely whether the Antients prayed East-ward , because their Churches were so built , or whether they built so , because they praye● so , but both wayes he makes use of it for his owne posture ; although we may both wayes as probably thus reto●●● to the contrary . If the Christians prayed Eastward onely , because their Churches were so built , then they held that posture of praying in it selfe indifferent , and if they built so because they prayed so , then they held the posture for building so to be indifferent : and sure the proofe is very weake , that the Primitives did put any vertue in all places of the world either in building or in praying Eastward , since it is most apparent , that private dwellings , and Pagan Temples , and Jewish Synagogues were at first converted into Churches , and some new erections were not contrived in this Eastern posture . For his second proofe , the Doctor sayes , that antiently ( according to Bishop Juell , the Quire or Chancell was drawne with curtaines , and this would be very unsightly ( he sayes ) if the Table should stand in the middle , 〈◊〉 farre from the wall ▪ The Doctor here makes no difference betweene a Cathedrall , and Parochiall Church , for in Par●chials a curtaine may hang at the Chancell dore without incumb●ance , and in Cathedrals it may be drawne in the middest of the Quire without any inconvenience , though the Table stand not neere the wall . In our Cathedrals , the Quires are now so spatious , that a third part of them may bee assigned to the {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} , or Altar place , and yet all the congregation may stand in the other division , nay , if in Saint Pauls London , the Altar wall were againe removed , as it was in Ridleys time , the Altar would be seene standing in the very middle of the Quire . For his third proofe , the Doctor cites the Altar in the Church of Antioch , which not standing to the East , is storied to have differed in posture from all other Churches . If it be granted that all Churches in the West parts from Antioch ; nay , all of the whole world had Altars standing towards the East ; this proves not that they touched the East wall , and stood side wayes . The Doctors fourth proofe is from the divisions in Churches , for first occurred ( hee sayes ) the seates of the Presbyters , and then above them the Episcopall throne , and above all the {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} . This is spoken onely of Cathedrals , and in Cathedrals we see the same division still ; yet see withall , that betwixt the Bishops throne and the Altar wall , there is a great distance , so that the Altar is not necessarily driven close to the wall . The Doctors last and maine proofe is from the custome of Papists , who since they retaine the old fashion of their buildings , are not likely to innovate in the fashion of their Altars . This proofe is no stranger for Altar posture , then for the multitude of Pillar-Altars , Chappell-Altars , and Requiem-Altars , and for a thousand other superstitions ; and yet we answer more over that it was not so easie for the Papists to alter in the fashion of Churches , as Altars , and therefore this is a very non-concludent , argument . I have now answered Doctor Heylin , and I might proceed to confute him also , but that is done to my hand by a Lin . Minister , in a booke called the Holy Table , name , and thing ; and hither I shall referre all that are unsatisfied in this point . I shall note only of that learned Author , that he puts his examples of the chiefest metropolies of Europe and Asia , and in Rome it selfe , his first instance is in the Catacombe , the most antient and reverent Church there , wherein Saint Paul and Peter first were buried , and where none might officiate , but the Pope : yet even this Church was not canonicall in this Easterne Altar posture . His next instance is in Saint Peters there the holy mother Church of the world , for 〈◊〉 there , that most reverent Altar , which stood over the translated b●nes of Peter and 〈◊〉 , stood some distance from the wall . Many other instances are given not fit to be repeated , and yet of all instances none can be more convincing the● those of his foure Tables so pretious , and richly adorned , and inscribed round about , which were dedicated at Constantinople , Rome , and S. Dennis . If Altars were onely in use , why was such incredible cost pow●ed out upon Tables ? If the Altar posture was onely in use , why were those Tables round about on 〈◊〉 side inscribed , when the inscription had beene 〈◊〉 in part obliterated ? I come now to this later age , and to our owne Nation . In the time of Edw●●● ▪ we finde that Altars were taken downe , that Hooker preached against them , that Ridley tooke away the Altar wall in Pauls to destroy the posture of them , that Bucer complained in C●or● tantum sacra representari . And when at first things were not fully setled , when the old posture was rejected , and not any new one instead therof constantly 〈…〉 we find Huggaid deriding that incertainty : and wee find● King Edwards second Liturgy ending that doubt by appointing the North side of the Table , for the place whereat to officiate : In the time of Queene Eliz. we finde an injunction to place the Table where the Altar stood , saving when the Communion is to be administred , and other things referred to the appointment of visitors . And in the third of Queene Eliz ▪ the visitors set forth their order , that the steps in the Chancell shall be decently 〈◊〉 and that there the Communion Table shall stand out of the time of receiving : and we know no reason w●y they which indured not the forme of an Altar , should indure the posture , or why they which liked not that posture in time of receiving , should like it at other times : or why they should call that the North side , which our Doctors now will needs understand the North end of the Table . Lastly , 〈◊〉 sanctorum be interpres praeoeptorum , we must beleeve that the Altar posture had not beene so generally used in all Parochials in the whole Kingdome ever since the reformation , and no care thereof taken by authority , if it had beene irregular . But the Doctor sayes that the Altar posture is retained in the Kings Chappell , and in Cathedrals , and that they ought to give Law , and not to receive it from Parochials . For answer we say that Chappels and Cathedrals have their own peculiar Statutes , & may differ sometimes from themselves therein , and from Parochials , but Parochials are all governed by the publike Canons : besides we see there is a great difference in the very fabrick between Cathedrals , Chappels , and Parochials ; and therefore in Parochials the Table is removed in time of administration , because the Chancel was not held so fit for the audience and accesse of the people , but in Cathedrals , and Chappels , no such removall is necessary . Chappels & Cathedrals 〈◊〉 also otherwise , as in pompe , and in the intelligence of the congregation ; and in this respect also ceremoni●s may be perhaps the more plausible in them , then they are in Parochials . The Doctor lastly cites Saint Gregories case , and sayes that their Altar posture was adjudged by the Kings owne decision . But I conceive otherwise , for these reasons . First , because that Church of Saint Gregorie stood under the very wall of Pauls , and owed a filiall subjection thereunto . Secondly , because that Church had no Chancell to officiate in , but was built Chappell wise , the East eud thereof being sufficiently visible to all the congregation . Thirdly , because the King did not intimate in his order that he intended to make that case a precedent to other Parochials , and we know no reason why that pleasure should be concealed , which desires to be obeyed . Fourthly , because many other visitors both wise and godly , have not taken it as an over-ruling Law in their Jurisdictions . Fifthly , the King did onely settle the Table being removed , and prevent further removals , but hee did not place it side-way to the East wall himselfe , and we know the Law would not have all things done , which it hinders from being undone . For these reasons it may be conjectured that the Kings aime was at uniformity onely , but not in all things , nor at all times where the like reason is not . And since B. Bilson sayes that the very word Altar so●●nts superstition , and the Parliament adjudges that the forme of a Table shall more move from superstition , and there can be no reason why the posture of the Altar should not fall under the same , consideration , we conceive the Kings meaning to have beene mistaken . CHAP. IV. Concerning the sanctity of the Altar , or its due adoration . THe honour and sanctity of the Altar , and that adoration which is due thereunto , is now to be insisted upon . The name , nature , and posture of Altar has beene all this while so stifly vindicated , and maintained in behalfe of the Table ; that a divine worship might be asserted and challenged as due to it : but now behold on a sudden , when the name of Altar will not serve , the name of Arke must supply that office . In the twinckling of 〈◊〉 eye the scene is changed by our Doctors , and that which was an Altar before , is now become an Arke ; and that which stood before in the Sanctuary is now removed into the Propitiatory , and there shrowdes it self under the wings of Cherubins . The surest argument now is , that as our Churches are to be accounted holy , and reverenced as the Temple was amongst the Jewes ; so in our Churches the holy Table ( not Altar ) stands responsible to the Arke of the Covenant , and the Mercie-seate . Doctor Micklethwaite sayes , that God may be worshipped in such places where his presence is truly specified : as it was in the Mount , in the Temple , &c. and if under the Law it was no idolatry to worship towards the places , and monuments of Gods extraordinary presence , it is none in the Gospel . And thus it is lawfull ( he sayes ) to lift up our hands and eyes towards heaven , and so vocally implore God , because in the act of such worship , we use heaven but as a meere circumstance , not as an object , no not relative , or mediate , and we direct our posture only , and not at all the act of our worship towards it . Hence he infers that the like respect may be used to our Table or Altar , which the Jewes used to the Arke or Temple , because ours answer to theirs , being according to antiquity , solium , Christi , and oculus Ecclesiae . So wee see his maine ground is that a reverentiall posture being due to any sacred place where Gods presence is specially manifested , as in the Church , &c. this pois best directed to that place of the Church which is most sacred , and of most eminent relation to God ; and that place is the Altar , or Table . God is in all places present , and yet the monuments , and specifications of his presence are not alike cleare and glorious in all places : his presence in heaven is not as it is in the Jewish Temple , nor in the Jewish Temple as in ours , nor in our Churches as in common places : Gods presence is sometimes in some places extraordinary , yet even his very extraordinary pre●ence is not alwayes to be alike honoured in all places , and at all times . Heaven it selfe is not to be made the object , but onely the circumstance of devotion , and that not of the act , but only of the posture of our worship ; and yet Heaven is indeed the true Throne of God , and can therefore the lifting up of our hands to God in Heaven , justifie the falling downe before an Altar ? Had the Doctor first proved that the Table was solium Christi , and the Chancell oculus Ecclesiae , and that there was the same adoration now due to the Altar , as was once to the Arke ; and that Gods presence is so now specified in our Churches as it was in Solomons Temple , or as it is in Heaven ; he had maintained enough for the meere posture of adoration . But since this maine {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} is still unproved , it will bee better worth my while to passe from hence to Doctor ▪ Lawrence his Sermon upon Exod. 3. 5. where hee is more full , expresse , and direct in the point , then any other of the Doctors . There was ( sayes Doctor Lawrence ) a holinesse acknowledged amongst the Jewes in places , in persons , and in things ; and that according to degrees , some holy , some more holy , some most holy : according to the dispensation of Gods residence and grace , as that did more or lesse shine upon them . Not onely the Tabernacle , the Mount , the Temple ; but even the staming bush shewes this : for at a nearer distance Moses might not be at all , nor at a farther without unloosing his shooes . Hence the Doctor indeavours to conclude , that if Gods presence and grace was the cause of this holinesse amongst the Jewes ; then the same reason of holinesse remaines still amongst us Christians , since no man can deny that God is still as present and gratious amongst Christians , as eve● he was amongst the Jewes . And in this hee does not depart from the same principles which Doctor Mi●klethwaite took before for granted , and which at first view carry a very specious colour of reason with them . To this therefore I make a fourefold answer . First , It is true , God is now as present , and as gratious in his presence as ever he was amongst the Jewes : but he is not so visibly , nor so majestically present to us as to the Jewes . There is some kinde of opposition betwixt Majesty and love ; and therefore as the Poet affirmes , No● bene conveniunt , nec in una sede morantur : To us God descends in more love , to the Jewes in more Majesty , and wee hold that a severall entertainment is due accordingly . Majesty requires more externall prostration , and feare ; love expects more internall joy , and confidence . Even in these dayes when we come to the Church of God ; we ought to make our addresse with all possible humility and zeale : but if God should in the Church appeare in fire , or any fearfull similitude to us , as he did formerly , certainely we ought to clea●e to the dust , and to inwrap our selves externally in the more confusion ; and yet God is not the more truly , or gratiously present , because of that apparition . Secondly , when God did ocularly appeare amongst the Jewes , hee did not at all times , and in all places , and of all men require the same adoration : so that we may suppose that the manner of adoration given , was not meerely because God did appeare ; but brcause God would have his apparition so entertained . Moses here did worship , but God commanded the manner of his worship ; and in many other interviewes in Scripture , wherin God did grace both Patriarchs and Prophets , wee doe not read of any consecration of place , or any such distinct adoration , as this of Moses , either commanded by God or performed by man . Certainely Elijah , when God passed by him , and gave him the beatificall sight of his back-parts fell prostrate upon the ground , to humble , and debase himselfe before that gratious presence : but that he performed any homage , or gratefull service to the place it selfe , we doe not reade . Besides , in this case of the blazing bush , there was a command , and that but temporall ; and we doe not reade that any holinesse did remain in the bush after the command . So also the holinesse of the Mount , of the Tabernacle , of the Temple , as it was created by the command of God , so that command had its limits of time , by which we may observe in my opinion , that the honour was rather politicall then physicall ( as I may so say ) & without speciall command had not bin due in such a manner or degree . But ( sayes D. Lawrence ) after an apparition in Luz , Jacob anoynted a Pillar , & built an Altar & changed the name of the place from Luz to Bethel . Jacob did so , and did religiously in doing so ; but yet if we suppose Jacob had no especiall command to doe so , it is not consequent that Jacob had finned if he had not done so . Besides , Jacob did erect those Monuments of honour , not onely in celebration of that ground whereon he was reposed , when he beheld the Angels ascending , and descending : but also of that radiant gate of Heaven which opened it self to him to inebriate his soule with such celestiall beautifull spectacles . And lastly , Jacob did chuse that place whereon to worship God , but this does not imply that Jacob did performe any reverence at all , or honour to the place it selfe ; and so if he had done the like in another place , upon another occasion , he had done well . Thirdly , the Jewish honour and reverence in regard of the manner of it was chiefely negative , and except in cases of divine worship , and civill worship , we read of no other . The Arke was so holy that it might not be approacht , or toucht but with such and such conditions : so the bush which Gods presence inflamed , it was too holy for too neere accesse , a●● the ground about it too pretious to be trod upon with uncleane shooes : but who ever read of any bowing , or kneeling , or positive adoration attributed to the Arke , or bush , or Temple , or any other thing under the Jewish discipline ? Doctor Lawrence indeed does produce a third kind of worship betwixt divine and civill , which he cals reverentiall , or religious : but he does not fully prove what kind of conditions it had , whether it was positive , or negative , internall , or externall , or how farre it did extend , or how farre it was due to 〈◊〉 relative instruments for Gods sake ; wherefore , if the Doctor means this negative kind of worship which consists in distance and forbearance for reverentiall , it is most evident that this kinde of worship was never in use since Christs time , as to the rigor of it , nor cannot be now introduced without great absurdity , and superstition . Fourthly , the honour and worship of God i● not to be weighed in humane ballances , and ●s not greater or lesse according to that proportion , which we call Arithmetical , or Geometricall . Moses being in the bosome of God , far above the sight of the people , is not to be supposed to honour or worship God lesse by his familiarity , then the meanest of the peopl wch lay groveling & trembling at the feete of God , and durst not approach the very outmost , and lowest borders of the mountaine . Some resemblance wee have of this in Princes Courts , for it is not presumption in some favorites to be covered in the Kings presence , or to approach the bed-chamber , though it be almost capitall in others ; and yet where Princes are so familiarly honoured , they may be sincerely honoured without all saucinesse ; and such familiarity may stand as compatible with internall humility , as the most debafing subjection in 〈◊〉 men . So if God doe admit Moses into familiarity , into such familiarity as abates of externall prostration , and distance , and feare ; yet it is not consequent , that Moses is hereby transported beyond the limits of internall awe , and zeale , and humiliation . And if it was so amongst the Jewes themselves in those rigorous times , shall it not be so now amongst Christians , when Christs iron Scepter is turned to a golden sheep-book in his hand ? In the Jewish worship there was feare , but not without joy , in the Christian worship there is joy , but not without some feare : for as feare was more predominant in them , so joy is in us . Why is our Saviours raigne over us now called in the Scripture , the Kingdome of Heaven ? Certainely , in comparison of that discipline which the Jewes lived under , for in comparison of the Jewish , which is more earthly , our worship now is like that of the triumphant Saints in Heaven , where joy is predominant , and not feare ; wherefore it is not rightly objected by Doctor Lawrence , when he expostulates thus . Shall God loose part of his honour from us , by sending his Sonne to us ? must there be lesse ●●linesse in the Church where Christ is in truth sacrificed by himselfe , then where he was sacrificed in a type or shadow by Aaron in the Temple ? I answer , no : God loses no honour , the Church loses no holinesse , although the rigorous worship of the Jewes which consisted in distance and terror , and forbearance , be mitigated by the milde , sweete , and peacefull raign of our Saviour over us , we worship with more joy and confidence then Moses did , Moses then the Jewes , the Saints in Heaven then us ; yet neither Moses , nor we , nor the glorified Saints diminish , but adde rather to the glory of God , and if any men now thinke that the most servile worship is not honourable to God , even when they are most over-whelmed with feare , and lie lowest upon the dust , the Saints in Heaven may upbraidingly say unto them , or rather triumphantly sing : Rent your hearts , and not your garments , Curvae in terras animae , at ●●lesti●inanes . But will D. Lawrence say , is not this the doctrine of the seditious Corahs of this age ? does not this doctrine make all persons alike holy , and all places , and so confound all order in Religion ? Our Saviour tels us in the Gospel , that the Temple is holier then the gold , and the Altar then the gift ; and by expulsing those exchangers and hucksters beyond the utmost borders of the Sanctuary , both after his Baptisme , and before his Passion , when those legall Sacrifices were before ejected thence , where the Christian Church was best represented , their lasting devotion being performed here , their expiring types within , showes that this distinction should last . The Doctors first proofe was , So it was amongst the Jewes , therefore so it ought to be now : in this place the Doctor proceeds to show further , that by our Saviours owne doctrine ●nd precedent the Jewish distinction of holinesse in the Church ought still to remaine . To the Jewish platforme of Worship , it was in part answered before ; that our Saviour had made an alteration thereof , inducing in its stead a more ingenuous confident manner of worship : but now this of the Doctors seemes to crosse that opinion . By this argument the Doctor would seeme to prove that our Saviour was so far from violating the Jewish distinctions , that he did zealously preserve them and vindicate them from the violations of other men ; and that also after the ejection of legall Sacrifices . I answer , It is confest that our Saviour did purge the Temple from the prophanation of those which bought and sold therein , as in a common place : but herein many things are considerable , which the Doctor passes over with silence . First , these buyers , and sellers , did not onely exercise a common trade in that sanctified place , but it should seem their trading was full of fraud , and unjustice : for our Saviour sayes plainely that they made the house of prayer a very den of theeves . Secondly , it is not manifest whether legall Sacrifices were now de jure ejected or no , and so whether this prophanation be to be considered as a trespasse committed against the law of Moses , or as a violation of a Christian Oratory . Baptisme was now in force by Johns institution , but Circumcision was not disanulled by any act of our Saviour , nor disused by his Apostles , for we finde the contrary even after Christs Ascension . Besides , we finde not that our Saviour , till his passion , did repeate , or oppose any Mosaicall rites whatsoever , but wee finde apparently , that he did observe strictly many of them . He observed the Sabbath , he did eate the Passeover , he did refraine the lists of the inner courts , &c. and till his expiration he did not teare the vaile of the Oracle in sunder : so that we see no reason why the Temple till then might not remaine wholly Jewish . Thirdly , consider this act of prophanation either way , and it is no wonder that our Saviour should reforme it : for even in Christian Oratories at this day no such thing ought to be indured . He which denies any externall positive adoration or genuflexion due to the Church it selfe , or any division of it , or utensill in it , does not deny internall , and such negative reverence as this , viz. that it should be free , & preserved inviolable from common , servile exercises , and offices , and much more from impious abuses . This unjust aspersion the Doctors every where labour to cast upon us , but as they want proofe to confirme it , so I hope they will want auditors to beleeve it . But if wee suppose this as Christian abuse , the Temple being now de jure Christian , why did not our Saviour comming with such unresistible authority purge the inner court , and Oracle also from Jewish ceremonious services , and destinate them to prayer , and preaching , as well as the outer court ? Why did he not enter and draw the vaile , and dissolve that partition as after he did ? If the Jewish devotions had beene now fully consummated , who had beene more fit to enter into the Holiest , then He and his Disciples ? or what Incense could have beene more sacred in that place then his prayers ? Certainely if his time had beene come , he might have as well expelled the Priests and Levites usurping against him , as he did the chapmen of Doves and Oxen : and certainely he did not want boldnesse , for wee know with what freedome hee spoke at other times to the greatest of them . So then this is a very weake argument to prove that our Saviour did still preserve in force that terrible kinde of holinesse in the Church of God , which makes some parts thereof inaccessible to Lay-men , and others to Priests according to the Jewish patterne . But on the contrary what is more apparent then this truth , that our Saviour hath rent in sunder that vaile of partition , which these Doctors would faine hang up againe , that they might usurpe a greater dignity to themselves , and their owne Order , then the Gospel of Christ doth allow them ? As to the approaching of the throne of grace , and that with boldnesse , wee say wee are all royall Priests now , and we are not to disclaime that prerogative , because the Doctor seemes to jeere at it . It is true that the Nation of the Jewes was also stiled a Priestly Kingdome to the Lord , and it was so in comparison of all other Nations which then lived : but whereas it is said now that we are a royall Priest-hood , it is said in comparison of the Jewes themselves . Aaron might once a yeere approach the Oracle , but with feare and trembling , presenting Incense in one hand and blood in the other : but we may now approach that Throne which is more honourable then the Oracle , and that with boldnesse , and at all times whatsoever . Neverthelesse , I doe not say that the raigne of our Soveraigne doth take away the holinesse of persons , or places , or things , but it changeth that holinesse which was in them , and maketh the manner thereof different . That holinesse which was then in the High Priest , is now dispersed into all the people of God , for if we are all Pri●●● as Aaron was , certainely we are all Priests of a higher order then Aarons was . Therefore the sinne of Corah cannot justly be charged upon us under the Gospel ( as the Doctor would have it ) if we claime accesse into the Holiest , for Aarons order is now dissolved , and so are the conditions of Aarons order . Neither ●et the Doctor suppose that I make no difference now betwixt the person of a Priest , and of a Lay-man as to all purposes : for all equality does not overthrow all order and decencie . Vzziah had a person as sacred as the Priest , yet Vzzia● might not officiate as the Priest did : Vzziah had his offices distinct , and so had the Priest ; and these offices might not be confounded ●ontrary to decencie , although the sanctity of persons might be communicable without disorder . So now it were disorder and the confusion of Corah for a secular man to usurpe the function of a Minister , but it is not the same , to challenge an equall prerogative in the spirituall empire of our Saviour . In the like manner we say of places , the sanctity of them is altered , not destroyed : we say , God is now more extensively , and universally present by his grace then hee was amongst the Jewes . In Judea ( as to his terrestriall habitation ) he did confine himselfe within the wals of one Temple , but now that of Malachy is verified , where the Lord ●aith , from the rising of the Sunne , unto the going downe of the same , my name shall be great among the Gentiles , and in every place I●cense shall be offered unto my name , and a pure offering . Besides , as God now inhabits amongst us more universally , so also more amiably : or else no Lay-men , nor Priests , but with such and such restraints might make any addresse at all into the Church or C●●●cell ; which the Papists themselves doe not maintaine . To the Jewes God was more dreadfull , as to servants ; to us he is more milde , as to sonnes . The Law was delivered with terror , and so kept , for it was made mortall to approach either the Moune where the Law was delivered , or to touch the Arke where it was kept : But when our Saviour came into the world to publish his Gospel , he tooke not on the habit of a Lord , but of a servant ; and as his entrance , so his life and death was , and as his soveraignty was acquired , so it seemes to be maintained ever since . In the like manner wee say also , that there is a change of things . Many externall rites , and customes of reverence , which consisted in the rigorous observations of times , and in the lotions of their bodies , and purity of garments , and cleannesse of diet , are vanished ; and yet some equity of these still remaines according to the rules of order , and decencie , but no further . Though these rites were honourable to God , and conducing to decencie , and the pompe of Religion ; yet the strictnesse thereof is now relinquished according to the Heb. 3. 10. for there they are called carnall ordinances imposed on the Jewes only , untill the time of reformation . Wherefore let the Doctor con●ider , if all the Jewish rites which were requisite to the externall honour of Religion , bee not as properly vindicated , and maintained by these arguments as the distinct sanctity of places in the Church : and yet these no Papist will defend . Neverthelesse I doe not speake against all pompe in Religion , I onely say that simplicity seemes more sutable with these times of Christianity wherein wee worship such a Saviour as we doe . And on the other side , it is most apparent that our pompe addes nothing to God : for Aaron in all his beauty , Solomon in all his Majesty , did retribute no more honour to God , then Abraham , or Isaack in their naked simplicity . But it hath beene rather observed , that when the Church had woodden Chalices , it had golden Priests , but God send us golden Priests and golden Chalices both . After our Saviours death , Saint Stephen , and Saint Paul were accused amongst the Jewes for speaking against these Mosaicall distinctions in the Temple , and here Doctor Lawrence sayes if the accusation were true , it was just . I will aske the Doctor this question : Was the Temple at that time de jure Jewish , or Christian ? was Moses or Christ to take place in it ? if he say Christ , as he must , then why should he thinke Saint Stephen , and Saint Paul more unworthy to enter into the most honourable parts of the Temple , then any of the Jewish priests ? It ought not to be presumed that these blessed followers of Christ did generally vilifie the honour of Gods house : but their crime was , that they did preach against the Mosaicall strictnesse of the limits and divisions of the Temple , shewing that all places therein were approachable by the ador●●s of Christ . There can be no other charge probable , and if the Doctor say that in this they were justly accused , he is as wrongfull a judge over them , as any of the Jewes whatsoever could be . Now we come to Fathers , and Antiquity . The Primitive Christians ( sayes Doctor Lawrence ) distinguished their Oratories into an ●●rium , Sanctum , and Sanctum Sanctorum , and accordingly put more holinesse in one then in the other , having an Altar here answerable to an Arke there , and in signe of perpetuity poynted their Churches East , looking towards the Temple . In this conceit Doctor La●rence goes not alone ; onely the other Doctors , because the changing of the Scene from the Sanctum , to the Sanctum Sanctorum , from the Altar to the Arke , upon the sudden would be too remarkable , are more sparing of language . But what an argument is this ? Because the Primitive Christians did build their Churches with some kinds of divisions resembling the Jewish Temple , and because they did esteeme one place more holy then another , therefore they did esteeme the very Jewish holinesse , and distinctions in all things equally in force . It should seeme the Altar was advanced to an higher dignity , and removed out of the Sanctum , to possesse the place of the Arke , and the Mercie seate , because this alteration suits with the Doctors purpose ▪ but in all other things the Jewish honour and holinesse remaines unchanged in our Churches . The building of our Churches East also looking towards the Jewish Temple , shewes the perpetuity of holinesse , and although this be but a particular reason not to be extended to any Churches , but such as stand West from Judaea ; yet for the Doctors benefit it must be taken for universall . Neither must we make any use of this Doctors argument to any other purpose , although it be as apply able to the Heathen Temples , as to ours , or the Jewish , for they had the same divisions also , whereof some were more holy and unaccessible then others . But it is apparent that the Jewish sanctity in its strictnesse cannot be attributed to our Quire by our Doctors owne Tenet , for he himselfe grants it accessible to Priests , and all within Orders : and we on the other side in an equitable sense allow it more reverence then other parts of the Church , therefore what kinde of honour is it which the Doctor challenges both different from the Jewish , and ours also ? If the Primitive Church stood wholly to the Jewish patterne , then they may be produced against the Doctor , as well as against us , if not , how are they produced against us in this point more then against the Doctor himselfe ? That antiquity did observe a difference betweene common and consecrated ground , and also betweene one consecrated place and another , and in the fashion of their buildings hold some complyance with Jewes and Gentiles both , so farre as the rules of decencie , and charity did require , certainly it was piously , and prudently done . That which we say is onely this . First , we doe not perceive that antiquity did strictly adhere to the Jewish discipline . Secondly , if antiquity in honouring of sacred places were more rigorous then we are now , we doe imagine that in part it was erroneous , and in part that it had some reasons unknowne to us at this time , and so vanished now , that they ought not to prescribe to us . All rude prophanation of holy ground wee doe dislike as antiquity did , because it is opposite to the rules of decencie and order , and if any man teach that the house of God is contemptible , or that there ought to be a community of places , or persons we wish the Anathema of Gangra to seize upon him . Howsoever we dare not in all things follow antiquity . If antiquity did thinke the Church too holy for justice to approach , when malefactors sought shelter there from the due execution of law , we dare not follow antiquity therein ; if antiquity did thinke the Quire so holy that the person of an anoynted Emperour might have no place therein , we dare not in this follow antiquity : if antiquity did thinke the Chancell ground too holy for any Lay-mans bones to repose in , or the Church-yard too unholy for a Priests interment , we dare not justifie this usage : if antiquity did thinke fit to translate the bones Peter , Paul , Augustine , Aidan , &c. from one consecrated place to another for more holinesse sake , as if it were profitable to the ashes of the Saints so to be translated , we dare not applaud this invention : if antiquity did place such holinesse in the Altar , as if it had medicinall force in it to cure bodily diseases , and for that reason did fall downe before it , as to a common Physitian , wee cannot so farre abuse our beliefe : if antiquity did exclude divers stations of Christians from divers partitions and limits in the body of the Church , wee dare not now in these dayes practise this observation . We doe not hold the judgement of antiquity to be in all things infallible , neither in these circumstances dare we strictly addict our selves to their imitation : the Papists themselves being scarce devoted to all these observations at this day . But if we approve antiquity in all these things , yet how does it appeare that it did sanctifie the Altar in stead of the Arke , and Mercie-seate , or the Chancell in the same manner as the Jewish Oracle was ? and if it did , how could our Priests prove hence such worship as they now challenge due to the Altar ? If we consider the Arke and the Oracle , and compare them with our Table , and Quire , we shall finde that the paralell of honour cannot hold for many reasons ; for , 〈…〉 First , Those times were not as ours are , the sweete pacification of Christ had not then made God so indulgent to mankind , as now he is , so that he would be glorified then with more terror than now he is . God in those dayes did not admit of so much familiarity in his Servants , as now he does , yet to shew that some familiarity might be without sawcinesse ( which the Doctor seemes unwillingly to grant ) to some men he offered himselfe in the milde semblance of a familiar friend , even in those times . This , the examples of Abraham , Isaac , Jacob , Moses , &c. sufficiently verifie . Was Moses sawcy , or Joshua , &c. when he ascended up into the Mount within the cloud , and brightnesse of God ? or was the Congregation more reverent , and obsequious when they durst not so much as lift up their eye after Moses , because of the terror of God ? certainely no : for God was more sanctified by the bold addresse of Moses , then by the awfull distance of the people , and therefore , whilest their faces were blacke with feare , his face was arayed in divine splendor , and Majesty . Neither was it the holinesse of Moses his person , but the gratious indulgence of God , that made this difference betwixt him and the people : And so wee say now of these dayes , mutatis , mutandis . Secondly , The Table is of it selfe much different from the Arke , and Mercy seate . The Arke was terrible , by reason of the Law of God , which was therein inclosed , that mortall Law , from whose condemnation no man living could escape of himselfe : But the Table presents us with the very marrow of the Gospell , wherein is life , and health , and forgivenesse of sinnes . Also , the Arke was Canopyed with the Mercy seate , that dreadfull Thro●● of God , where God did keepe a strange residence , vocally ruling his people , and administring justice after a terrible manner : But the Table is an ●●●fill , wherein God is not so presentiall at all times , nor at any time meerely by the meanes of that it selfe , but by the meanes of the Sacrament at some times supported by it . Also , the Sanctum Sanctorum it selfe was such a place , as was wonderfully terrible by reason of Gods residence in it , after the losse of the Arke , and the Mercy seate : And so●e doe not repute our Chancells ; whose chiefest honour is borrowed from the holy table : and for these reasons we know the Arke was not to be touched , even by a Priest , and that upon a godly consideration , but upon such penalty as Vzzah indured , ●nd with this condition our Table cannot ●uite , and we know that the Oracle also was not to be approached but once a yeare , and that by the High Priest only , & with this condition also our Quires cannot agree , for if these conditions were admitted , the Table might not be touched , or remooved , or altered for any reason whatsoever , or any other place designed for the administration of the Communion : or any other time appointed but once every yeare . Lastly , Neither the Gospell written , nor the pr●ctise of antiquity doe informe us , that ever the Altar and Chancell were so honoured by Christians , as the Arke , and Oracle were by the Jewes , we see no probability that ever the Table was accounted any thing but a holy utensill , till Doctor Helyn dis●●yned ned that 〈◊〉 , for why should the chalice and patin be utensils , and not the Table , they being more necrely imployed about the body and blood of our Saviour , then the Table ? if the Table be not as meere an instrument , and utensill as the Chalice is , then the Doctor must derive its honour from some other thing than the Sacrament , and designe it for some higher use proper to it selfe , as the Arke and Merci-seate was : but this the Doctor cannot doe , and if he should attempt it , even so he would crosse his owne assertions . The Arke with the Mercy-seat could not properly be said an utensill in the Jewish service , because they were ordained by God for no humane office , but rather for a receptacle of the divinity , as a place where God would set the soles of his feete . But the Table is therefore placed in the Church , that it may be employed in the Communion , and if the Communion had not beene instituted , no such thing had beene necessary at all . Neither is it of any absolute necessity in the Communion , for in case of persecution , it is held , that for want of a Table , wee may celebrate the Eucharist upon the ground it selfe . Besides , among the Jewes the Altar , and the Altar instruments were of the same metall , in the same manner beautified , and with the same solemnity consecrated , and therefore why our chalice and patin should not much rather be of the same honour and sanctity as the Table , I cannot discerne . For it is most certaine that our Table is more properly a relative instrument in our Sacrament , from whence it receives all its honour , then the Jewish Altar was , which lent honor to Mosaical Sacrifices , rather than borrow ' d any . But ( sayes Doctor Lawrence ) we finde a kinde of Worship in Cyrill , a direct worship in Eusebius , Emissenus , Theodoret , Augustine , and Chrysostome . We have {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} in Ignatius , and adgeniculation in Tertullian , &c. I answer , First , We our selves doe grant a reverentiall honour due to all holy relative instruments for Go●● sake , and therefore from all those Fathers which speake generally , and meane no other but {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} , as Ignatius does , we doe not at all dissent . Secondly , Where particular adgeniculation is required , or bodily prostration , so it be in the time of receiving , and tender'd for the Sacraments sake , and not to the very Table , wee doe practise , and allow it . And so wee agree with Saint Chrysostom that we ought to approach the Table , {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} , &c. and cum prius adoraverimus with , Saint Austine . Thirdly , At any time , as well when the Sacrament is not upon the Table , as when it is , we doe not alwayes censure of such a decent bowing before the Table , or towards the Table , as the Jewes did performe towards the Mount , or Tabernacle , so the Table it selfe be not the object , or held the onely occasion of our worship . Fourthly , we say the Table may be called holy , venerable , and divine in a qualified sense , by reason of its relation , as the garments of Aaron , and the utensils of the Temple were , but this infers no duty of Worship . Fifthly , We say that antiquity might erre , by way of superstition towards the Table , and this we beleeve the rather , because in some places they did ascribe inherent , physicall vertue to it , and at some times such rigor of holinesse , that Princes , and Emperours might not be permitted to abide in the same division of the Church where it stood : if Tertullian say that bodily worship is due to the Altar , yet i● he prove it not out of Scripture , we answer out of Saine Augustine : Non credimus , quod non legimus . Sixthly , it is not proved by any one humane authority or more , that Altar worship was in use in all parts of Christendome at one time , or in any one part at all times : much lesse is any thing brought out of Scripture to this purpose . Seventhly , In the same manner , and by the same authority we finde Presbyteris advolvi due , as well as aris adgeniculari , and in antiquity also , it was part of penance Presbyteris , & aris advolvi . And we know moreover , that not onely excessive honours , but also all the revenues and treasure of Churchmen , was first raised and advanced by this Art . It is not to be wondred therefore , if ambitious and covetous Prelates did so much magnifie , and extoll that , which did so much magnifie and extoll them . Well may the Pope still in all consecrations hallow the Altar with most pompe , and ceremony , well may he anoynt that , which was the first cause of anoynting him : well may he sacrifice to that net , which has made all Princes sacrifice to him : well may he claime divinity , and sanctity for that , which has promoted him to fit in the Temple of God , as God , nay above all that is called God . When the hornes of Antichrist first began to shoote forth , when the man of sinne , and the sonne of perdition first began to be revealed , it had beene very unadvisedly ordered , if Psalmes of degrees had not beene sung at the ascending of those staires , whereby the Priest did mount to as much , or more exaltation himselfe as he did procure to the holy Altar . But this is a tender point , and if I speake any thing in disparagement of antiquity , especially the great Bishops of old times ; I shall be fore-judged as a man ill-affected to Truth , or Religion , and all which I shall say will be soone rejected , and easily refuted . Therefore , to avoyd unjust imputations , I will confine my selfe to the meere point in question , and digresse no further then the Doctors arguments 〈◊〉 me , and therein also my chiefe indeavour shall be to doe reason to Princes , not to detract at all from Priests . Two things I shall observe . First , that this tenet of the Altar-doctrine , and Altar-worship doth naturally issue forth conclusions that are very dangerous , and prejudiciall to Princes . Secondly , that the Doctors have too farre co●●tenanced , and maintained the same in their late Treatises concerning the Altar , contrary to th●se many pretenses of zeale and devotion , which they every where make to the name of royalty . By the Doctors grounds , meere relation to sacred things is of vigor , and honour sufficient to transfer revere●ce and dignity upon the instruments relatively used , for sayes Doctor Lawrence , God is not worshipped , if relative instruments be not worshipped for his sake . This being granted , it followes , that most honour is to be transferred upon that instrument , which is most nobly relative , and so in the Sacrament the Priest being {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} , and the Table or patin , being but insensible utensils , the Priest is to be accounted more holy , and honourable , then either the Table , or patin . If so , then what becomes of Princes ? for they are as much inferiour to the Altars in sanctity , as Altars are to Priests . They are not holy enough to approach the rayle of the Altar , or to stay in the Chancell , therefore , how shall they demeane themselves towards Priests , who are farre more honourable , and venerable in their offices , then the Altars are in their imployments ? Besides , if the Altar be honourable for the Sacraments sake , and the Sacrament onely or chiefely , as it is a Sacrifice , then how honourable is he that makes this a sacrifice , for the Sacrament is not a sacrifice by vertue of our hoc edite , but only by vertue of the Priests , hoc facite , so sayes Doctor Heylin very plainly . How many Kings ha's this doctrine formerly dethroned ? what warres and calamities has it imbrued the whole world withall ? when it first brought Christians downe to the Clergies feete , how many heresies did it broach ? withall , how many myriads of Soules did it at the same instant sinke into the Lake of Hell ? But will the Doctors say , if Popish Priests have made ill use of this doctrine , what is that to us , who honour and adore soveraignty above all other men ? I wish the Doctors were as they pretend to bee , I wish they were not {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} , as they taxe their opposites unjustly : I wish they did no more profit by this doctrine then their adversaries doe , or else I wish they did not more advance this doctrine , then those which they call the seditious Corahs of the time . But if the Doctors are so well wishing to temporall rulers , how is it that they all alleadge the example of Ambrose , and Theodosius so often without any kinde of detestation , or dislike , nay seeming rather to justifie , and applaud it ? and how is it , that they speake so pleasingly of Numerianus ? Numerianus sonne to Carus the Emperour comming into the Church at Antioch , and desiring to behold their mysteries quasi per transennam , peeping it is likely through the rayles or lattice dores of the Quire , he was presently rebuked by Babylas for that attempt : but this heinous prophanation was committed but by the sonne of an Emperour , and so Babylas might be the more bold in his rebuke , therefore let us rather see how Theodosius was used at Millaine . Theodosius a penitent Emperour having beene long prohibited , the Church and at last ●●●ceived againe , and permitted to communicate , yet he was thought unworthy after his offring made 〈◊〉 have any abode granted him within the bounds of the Quire . It was not sufficient that he was an ●●perour , and a Christian Emperour , and a 〈◊〉 Christian Emperour , it was not sufficient that i●Constantinople , and his Easterne dominions his 〈◊〉 was within the Quire : but at the proud check of a Bishop of Millaine sent by one of the Deacons , he must depart that sacred place . This story the Doctors do all severally produce either once , or 〈…〉 if it were not dishonourable to all Princes to have it mentioned at all , or rather impious or ung●●tious in all Priests to suffer the mention thereof 〈◊〉 passe uncensured from their lipps . Here is a cleare authority cited againe and againe with the weight of Saint Ambrose his name to abet it , that by the rules of approved antiquity , the persons of Princes were not worthy to approach that part of the Church where the Altar was placed , and where the Priest● , and Deacons did officiate . And if Saint Ambrose would so extrude an annoynted Emperour at Mill●ine , what would the Pope himselfe have done at Rome ? if such a pious Bishop would be so insolent and distoyall , what would the Bishop of all Bishops have done ? The Doctors do not openly declare themselves , in favour of this act of Saint Ambrose , because I thinke it needs not , for their opinion in sufficiently evident of itselfe , and if they did not discover their consent by silence , yet their scope in this whole busines would make it manifest . For by what Law did Saint Ambrose confine the Emperour to the body of the Church ? it was not by the Law of God , nor of the Emperour , for it should seeme the Emperour had a contrary Law in his Easterne dominions : it must needs be by this Altar Law , and this only . If the Levites table be so much dignified and hallowed meerly by bearing the body of our Saviour , then certainly the Priest which con●ecrates the same , and is more nobly and intelligently active in the celebration of the Sacrament , must needs acquire much more dignity and holinesse : and if so , then Priests must needs be more excellent then Princes , then whom the table is more excellent . This must needs bee that which did convince Theodosius , and this if it be yeelded to , will still convince , and confound , and degrade all Christian Princes whatsoever : for this is one of the most powerfull intoxications that the Inchantresse of Rome mingles for the princes of the earth . The foundations of the Popish Hierarchy are not yet quite razed in many mens minds . The Scripture is cleere , that as Priests are dedicated to God , and admitted to a nearenesse in holy affaires , to serve and officiate at Gods A●tar , and doe thereby gaine a sanctity above meere Lay-men : so also that Princes are sacred in a higher degree , in that they are anoynted by God to feede , governe , and protect both Priests and Lay-men , and to represent God himselfe in his power and majesty , and to have nearest accesse in things of the highest , and holyest nature . Aar●n though the first and greatest of his order , receives his solemne consecration from the hands of him which weilds the scepter , and when the Law is to bee delivered , the scepter-bearer is to bee admitted into the presence of God , and higher to bee promoted in the dreadfull majesticall cloud , then any of the house of Levi ; nay his next subordinate attendant obtaines a higher station in the smoaking Mountaine , then any of the Priests . Also when the Tabernacle , and the Arke , is to be framed , and when the Temple is to be erected , the modells are prescribed and committed to the charge of the Prince , and when all is finished , the Princes blessing and prayer presents the same as dedicated , and separated to Gods service . And in all the offices of Religion , the Priests serve in the outward action , but the Lawgiver superintends over the Priests in that service , and when any great difficulty requires , God is to bee consulted and approached at the command of the supreme Ruler : so that the good or ill state of Religion depends chiefly upon the good or ill government of Gods immediate Lievetenant . And thus Aaron is but as a mouth to Moses in some things , but Moses is as a God to Aaron in all things , and though Moses may not officiate at the Altar meerly out of contempt to Aaron and his function , or out of enmity to all order and relation , yet he may move uncontrolled in his own superiour first moving sphere . It is a poore shift of our Doctors to pretend that Moses was within sacerdotall orders , and to cite the 99. Psalme , where it is sayd , Moses and Aaron among the Priests ; for Moses had not Ecclesiasticall power , because he was of Ecclesiasticall Order , but he may therefore ●ee reckoned amongst men of Ecclesiasticall Order , because he had more then Ecclesiasticall power . What Moses had in the government of the Church over Church-men themselves , the same David had , and Solomon had , and all the successors of David , and Solomon ought to have . Till the world was inslaved to Church-men , under the pretence of Church policie , the care of Temporall and Spirituall affaires was not divided ; neither was the one which is the basest , given to the Magistrate , and the most excellent attributed to the Priest , as if the Prince was the body , and the Priest the Soule of the State . Miserable were wee ( sayes Doctor Pockington ; he meanes in poynt of Religion ) if my Lord of Canterbury could not derive his lineal succession from Saint Peter : but I thinke if this bee all our stay , wee are now most miserable , for our Religion is the same as theirs is in Geneva , and theirs in Scotland , and theirs in the Netherlands , and in the North parts of Germany , where no Bishops are , and if they are miserable , wee cannot be happy . Had wee beene Hereticks , if in the reformation none of the Romish Clergy had had hand in our reformation , if Cranmer , Latimer , Ridly , Hooper , &c. had not turned Protestants , had we been utterly deprived of the true and effectuall power of ordination and imposition of hands ? Could not God by the sacred hands of Edward the sixt , have derived his grace unto the Protestant Clergy , unlesse some from the Romish party had come over to doe those offices of consecration ? Was the hand of Moses , Joshuah , &c. more gratious and effectuall in the offices of ordination under the Law , then a Protestant Princes is under the Gospell ? What is the reason of it , that the Gospell should bee introduced to the detriment and prejudice of temporall authority ? Or else shall we thinke , that Aaron was as the Soule in Spirituall rule whilst the Jewish Law was in force , and that Moses had but a corporeall , subordinate , lesse excellent power under him ? But I will follow this chase no further now , because the times are lately changed , and I believe the Doctors will easily yeeld to retreate of their owne accord . Praesbyteris & Aris advolvi , was the old penance as well for Princes , as people , now wee will bee content if they will leave out Presbyteris , and shew devotion Aris onely . My Lord of Canterbury , and Doctor Pocklington thinke it a good argument for Alta●worship , that 300. yeares agoe the Founders of the Garter did performe their Ceremonies with adoration before the Altar , and that the successors of that Order have continued the same adoration ever since . This is scarce worth an answer , for the times when this custome began , were blinde and superstitious , and the meere practice of a few Noble men was never yet thought a Canon in matters of Ecclesiasticall Discipline . But I come now from precedents , to give answer to our Doctors Reasons . A difference of places ( sayes Lawrence ) requires a difference of respect , that honour may be sutable to merit , as justice requires . I answer , wee dispute not against degrees of internall reverence , whereby wee hold Churches more honourable then Barnes , &c. our exceptions are against the Jewish rigor of bodily adoration , or such externall expressions of worship , as favour of too much terror , and consternation : but the Doctor further presses thus . It is but as justice requires , that that place should have the preeminence from which vertue is derived to the rest , for the word is not operative , but by the merit of that sacrifice , nor the streames of regeneration pure , unlesse first bathed in his bloud . I might deny that any one place in the Church deriveth vertue to an other , but I will not stand upon ●avills , for the Doctors meaning is no more then this , that the word is not operative , but by the merit of that sacrifice , &c. therefore that place , where the word is Preached is not so honourable , as that where Christ is sacrificed . To make comparisons of honour betwixt the Ordinances of God is not so safe , and commendable , but grant the Sacrament to be more operative , then the word , ( for so the Doctor should have argued ) is not the word therfore operative at all , but by the Sacrament ? How does this conclude ? may not Baptisme , and the Preaching make us partakers of Christs bloud , and merits , except wee actually receive the Eucharist ? Is the vertue of Christs bloud only annexed to the Sacrament ? and if so , is the vertue of the Sacrament affixed to the Altar place ? and if so , must that place bee infallibly in the upper end of the Chancell ? doth the Church of England so oblige it selfe to that place in all cases , that it will not have the Communion celebrated in any other part of the Church ? and if so , is all the honour of the Sacrament in the consecration , and nothing in the distribution ? is not the place where the people receive , of some sanctity , as well as that place where the Priest blesses it ? And grant all , yet what doe all these Paradoxes conclude for any particular kinde of worship ? or what wee are to worship , whether the Table , or Table-place , or both , or whether these as relatives only to the Sacrament , for the Sacraments sake , or equally as the Sacrament it selfe ? But let the Doctor goe on : why should any slave be more vile in the hight of his Lord , then wee before God ? &c. Nor is this grace greater then is ascribed by Ecclesiasticall writers to the parts which our Saviour conversed in , &c. to his spitle , to his garments , &c. Wee doe acknowledge a greater duty and distance , and humility to bee used towards God , then any slave can render to his Lord ; wee de●y no kinde of honour to God , internall , or externall , only wee dare not present to him but according to his owne command . But for relative instruments which we are to hold sacred for Gods sake , such as the ground whereon our Saviour trod , or his Garment , or his spitle , &c. or the Altar , wee are uncertaine how to reverence them according to our Doctors opinion . The Jewish manner of distance according to strictnesse , is not to be maintained by the Doctor himselfe , and wee know no other kinde of worship used by the Jewes ; neither when the Arke was solemnly moved , or removed , doe wee read of any other reverence applied . And therefore to what purpose the Doctor does urge the Jewish example against us , wee doe not see : and if he will moderate his honour according to the equitable tenor of Christs Gospell , wee shall willingly be informed by him . In two things the Doctor leaves us unsatisfied , and very uncertaine of his meaning : first he does not cleerly and constantly nominate any distinct forme of reverence , which he would have us use ; secondly , he does not certainly and fully instruct us in the grounds , and reasons of that reverence . First he sayes , adoration in the Law , which was a very strict time against superstition , was never without prostration , and to this purpose he cites examples , wherein men did civilly so fall downe before men , and religiously before God : but he gives us no instance at all wherin any such prostrate manner of worship was given to any third , middle , holy relative instrument betwixt God and man . Wee say that bodily adoration may be given to man , because it is but a meere civill act , and for civill reasons , and the mind is not subject to be misled thereby into superstition , because the nature of man whom wee worship , and the manner of adoration wherewith wee worship , and the civill reasons for which wee worship , are so perfectly knowne to us . Also wee worship God with bodily worship prostrating together our Soules before him , acknowledging that the highest kinde of divine worship is not competent for his majesty , and herein also there is no feare of superstition , because wee cannot erre in the excesse : and therefore the Doctor cannot either from divine , or civill worship , conclude any thing for his middle kinde of religious honour ; because in these relative instruments wee are to divide our Soules and bodies ; not ascribing so much as to God , nor so little as to man : neither have wee any precept , or precedent for this third kinde of worship in Scripture , but rather the contrary : Where do wee read in Scripture that the Iewes did bodily worship the Arke , or the Altar , or the Tabernacle , or Temple , or the Footsteps , or Garments , or Spitle , or Sweate of our Saviour , as our Doctor instances ? or how can he prove that any Orthodoxe Doctors in the Primitive times did worship the Gospells , or Crosse of our Saviour ? Is it sufficient for the Doctor to say , as things have beene in esteeme , so religious persons have ever esteemed them ? how does this tautologie confute us ? But , ( sayes the Doctor ) the constant obeysance of Israel in the Wildernesse was towards the Mount , Tabernacle , Fire , Cloude , Arke , &c. And Ezekiel saith , At the gate they shall worship God : for the gate of the Temple was over against the Mercy-seate , and so towards the Temple they did worship as well when they were farre distant in other Lands , as neere it . And so Saint Paul saith , the converted Gentile falling downe shall worship , &c. I answer , here the Doctor strives to prove religious worship , by divine , as if they were both the same , and not to bee distinguished . Is there not a plaine difference betweene falling downe before the gates , or towards the gates of the Temple , and to the gates , or to the Temple it selfe ? nay , there is a difference in falling downe before , or towards the house of God in mens mindes : and it is most evident that even to the Jewes did not fall downe before the house of God , as the Papists doe before their Images . The Papists say , they fall not downe to , but before the Picture , worshiping that which is represented , not the thing representing ; but if so , if they have the same reason to worship God represented in the Image , as the Iewes had really , and gratiously presentiall in the Temple , then why might they not fall downe towards their Pictures being a hundred Leagues distant , as well as holding them in their hands , for so the Iewes did ? It was proper in Daniel to set open his casements towards Sion , and to worship God in that posture , and hereby hee made it evident that hee did not worship by reason of any motive arising from the meere building it selfe , but meerly for the presence of God himselfe there residing . How fond would it ●ee if Papists now should doe the like to their deities , or if wee should doe the like to our Altars , except we did believe God to bee as presentiall in them , as the Jewes did in their Mercy-seate ? This quite dashes the conceite of all memorative instruments , for they which worship Pictures , or Altars , as being memorative only , must needs confesse that they worship them otherwise , then as Daniel did the Mercy-seate , for he being absent was rather memorative of that for Gods sake which there inhabited , then that was memorative of God to him . Besides , if wee did believe that the glory , and face of God ( as the Scripture sayes ) did as majestically dwell in our Table , as it did betweene the Jewish Cherubins , yet the Jewish example will not guide us to the adoration of the Table only . Solomon in his consecration names , and blesses the whole house , and prayes God to be favourable to all supplicants extending their hands to the whole house , and so supplicants alwayes did extend their hands to the whole house . I know one part of the Church is more honourable then another , but the whole is sufficiently memorative , and so not the Table more then any other part , and if I must distinctly worship according to the distinct degrees of holinesse , how shall I proportion my severall bowings in so many severall places ? At my first entrance into the house of God , I fall downe and worship that blessed name of God which sanctifies that place , must I needs ascend by degrees unto the Table afterwards , there to worship in a higher degree ? expecting there a greater blessing , or a perfecter memory of my Saviour ? I doe not thinke that the Jewish Levites , and Priests did thus performe so many distinct worships : much lesse could the people by that Discipline . But in the second place , let the Doctor give us some certayne knowledge of the grounds , and reasons of our worship , and then wee shall guesse at the manner thereof the better . In this poynt the Doctor ( in my opinion ) is very much staggerd , and gives very uncertaine resolutions : Sometimes he saith , that wee worship not the Altar , but God towards the Altar : and he that so worships a house for the owners sake , worships not the house , but the owner . Sometimes , hee saith , that wee doe worship the Altar it selfe , but as Damascen saith , not {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} , not equally with God himselfe , and his reason why wee may doe this , is because the Altar is for God , not an Idol , or against God . Sometimes , he saith , that wee adore God in the place without separation of God from the place , as wee adore whole Christ , the whole supposition in grosse , the humanity as well as the divinity , without abstraction of one from the other . Generally , the Doctors ground is , that wee are to worship the Table , as an holy relative instrument , for wee cannot worship God , except wee worship relative instruments for his sake : but herein wee are left as uncertaine also , as ever , for all holy instruments , are not holy alike , nor to be reverenced alike , and therefore in what ranke wee are to place the Table , or with what height to adore it , is not described . To all these assertions something briefly must bee sayd ; in the first place therefore , if no worship at all be given to the Altar , but to God towards the Altar , which is our owne acknowledgment , then why is the Altar so supereminently worshipt , before any other relative instrument whatsoever ? At my entrance at the Church dore , I may so worship God , as well as at the Altar : and so when the Font appeares to mee after my first entrance , thus I may as lowly , as heartily adore God , by reason of his gratious presence in his whole house , or his particular relation to the Font , as at the Altar ; and if it be said , that God is not so highly present in any other part of the Church , or in all , or in any other relative instrument ( which is a hard saying ) as in the Table at all times : yet this doth not infirme my inference , for even before the Font ( the same God being present by the same meanes of consecration ) my devotion may be as intense , and as acceptable , as before the Altar . In the second place if it be confessed , that the Altar it selfe is worshipt , though not , as God himselfe , and that this is justifiable , because the Altar is no Idol , but a holy instrument , and not against God , but for God . I answer , first this is more then the Jewes ever did , or then any precept in Scripture can warrant . Secondly , this is no more then the Papists alleadge for their Idolatry . Thirdly , this is contrary to reason , for if God bee there extraordinarily present , what neede wee honour any thing else but that extraordinary presence it selfe , or how can wee without indignity ? indeed in civill worship when the King is absent , we doe our reverence to his chayre , but when the King sits there in person , what man is so infatuated and voyd of discretion , as to doe any honour to the chayre ? and for the absence of God , that cannot be pleaded . But the Doctor sayes in the third place , that in this Altar-worship wee worship God and the place together without abstraction , as wee doe both natures of our Saviour . This answer ( in my opinion ) of all others is the worst , and I am perswaded there is scarce any Jesuite that would not bee ashamed to say the like . In our Saviour the Godhead dwelt bodily , {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} , and even the dead body of our Saviour lying breathlesse in the grave divided from his humane Soule , was not separated wholly from the hypostaticall union of the Godhead , and shall this stupendious union be a resemblance of Gods union with the Table or Table-place ? I am perswaded that Seraphins did attend the buried carkasse of our Saviour , and adore it even resting in the Tombe , and this by reason of its union with the Godhead : but shall the Doctors imagination create the like inseparable relation betwixt God , and the Table ? God deliver mee from such audacious thoughts . But grant this , and then where is the Doctors religious , middle worship betwixt civill , and divine ? how can he maintaine this , and yet maintaine with Damascen too {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} . In conclusion then , the Doctors shete anchor , is the old maxime , that all relative instruments are to bee worshipt for Gods sake , and since a worship ( saith he ) is due ex confesso , then this worship is most proper . I answer , this rule of relation must needs be a very uncertaine fallible rule as to the manner of our worship , and the degree thereof : because wee can neither distinguish of the relations themselves , as God values them , neither can wee limit , and proportion our respects accordingly . In the Law , nay before the Law Circumcision was a very venerable Sacrament and gratious league betwixt God and man , and yet in the act of Circumcising there were no other Knives used , but such as were common , and so after accounted and valued . So also the Passeover amongst the Jewes it was an ordinance more solemne and reverend then circumcision , and yet in this great celebrity the Jewes used no other then common Tables , and Dishes wherewithall to eate their Paschall Lambe , the type of Jesus Christ . Moreover , even now under the Gospell in our baptizations of Infants , our Ministers use consecrated Water and sometimes common Basons without any scruple , or offence , and yet wee cannot deny , but that there is great honour due to that sacred ordinance , as to the laver of regeneration it selfe . Neither do these Doctors that fight so violently pro aris , seme at all to regard , what honour wee ascribe to any other kind of sacred utensil whatsoever : nay I think if the Patin or chalice should bee unconsecrated wherein the Body and Bloud of our Saviour is offered , they would thinke it little to bee regarded . The honour and sanctity of the Lords day is of late much lessened , as if there were not the same relation in times , as in places , and I feare that this swelling of Altar-worship in the Church may grow as fatall to Religion , as the swelling of the Spleene does many times to the body . But I desire these Doctors to consider that God ha's expressed himselfe to bee a jealous God in such cases as these , more then in any other sinnes whatsoever ; nay in other offences hee proclaymes himselfe to be long suffering , and patient ; but in the sole fruition of his worship and adoration he professes himselfe jealous over us , and apt to take offence against us . Does he not declare himselfe to the Israelites , as if he did purposely forbeare to appeare to them in any outward apprehensible forme , and similitude , that they might not adore the same ? I pray what can be more worthy to bee adored in the whole world , then such a representation ? what relative instrument can bee so holy , as the ocular dispensation or sensible displaying of Gods most inscrutable Essence , in what figure soever it was opened to the eye , or eare ? yet God wee see was not delighted to be so worshipped by the meanes of any such externall instrument : but he did rather avoyde , and refuse such bodily worship , and did deny gratious apparitions , that they might not remaine in the mindes of men as instruments of devotion ; and if God did not affect to bee adored in any heavenly resemblance of his owne apprehended by any humane sense , ( all such apprehension being utterly unworthy of this infinite Majesty ) why should wee imagine that it can be pleasing now to him to be adored in a Stone-Altar , or wooden Table : but all our Altar-Patr●●s doe not make this their ground of worship , that the Altar is the same now , as the Arke was formerly , or that the Table is solium Christi , wherein Christ is supposed to sit majestically , and gloriously : for this will be very hard to bee proved : and I thinke the Papists are scarce so grosse . M Ironsides ground is , not that God doth reside in the Table , as in the Mercy-seate , but that he is there strangely and efficaciously commemorated : wee worship not ( saith he ) the Table , nor any thing set upon the Table , but Christ , as the Messias slaine ; for the Table is only a memorative instrument , unto which the assistance of grace is never fayling , either to beget in our mindes thoughts of Christs death , or to extract from us a worship of him , if wee bee not wanting to our selves . He cites Cajetan , Thomas Aquinas , and Gerson to prove that the learnedst of Papists hold no more . So then Doctor Lawrence is confuted out of the Papists themselves , if he worship the Table for Gods sake relatively , or together with Christ without abstraction , this is Idolatrous . The ground of this opinion is , that Consecratio non tantum est opus , sed efficax . God is in a speciall manner present in consecrated things and places to assist us , and stirre up devotion in us , if wee resist not his assistance , so that though they have no reall quality of holinesse , or vertue in them , yet by their very consecration they gaine a certaine fitnesse to stirre up holy thoughts . But in the first place , if the meere act of consecration be so peremptorily vigorous , ex opere operatio , yet this concludes nothing for adoration . The words of the Evangelists relating the Passion of our Saviour , and the Sermons of good Divines have more then an aptnesse of commemoration in them , yet wee worship not either the Gospells , or the Preachers thereof . It a meere memorative aptnesse bee maintained , and that to bee all the ground of our worship , then why shall not all things of the like nature procure from us the same adoration ? if I looke upon a Crosse , or Picture , or upon the Sunne , or Moone &c. and by that memorative aptnesse which is in them , finde thoughts of reverence and piety begotten in mee , why shall not I ( according to the Doctors advice ) embrace all occasions and furtherances of devotion , and so fall downe before them ? And if more then a memorative aptnesse bee maintained , and some higher vertue transfused into an Altar meerly by its consecration , then into other things wee desire further proofe thereof . Secondly , if consecration bee admitted to bee so infallibly vigorous , as to imply Gods holy presence , yet this claymes worship not only to the Altar , but also to the Font , and to all other consecrated things , places , and times , and this involves us in many doubts . For if I must worship at the Altar more then at the Font , or more then at the first view of the whole fabrick , yet how much oftner , how much more must I worship at the Altar , then in other places ? The consecration of the whole building has vertue to beget pious thoughts in mee , when I first approach it , and I finde in mee a holy commemoration , must I now stay my worship till I come to the Altar , there to expect yet a more vertuous commemoration ? or must I bow at my entrance with lesse reverence , and then bow more lowly at the Altar afterwards ? what must be the severall measures of my worship ? Thirdly , this worship by way of motive is not agreable to that of the Jewes , for Daniel in his worship remembers that house wherein God was dreadfully 〈◊〉 strangely present , and so directs his posture ●●●●dingly : but the house of God is no motive inst●●ment to him to remember God , and therefore 〈◊〉 relative object , or occasion of his devotion , If 〈◊〉 Papists had the same grounds for their adora●●● as Daniel had , they would worship their Altars 〈◊〉 Images at as great a distance , as Daniel did the J●●ish Temple being a Captive at Babylon . But now as the occasion , so the nature of their worship is farre different from the Jewish , and by their 〈◊〉 downe before present objects only , it plainly appeares , that they make those present things , 〈◊〉 only the occasions of their posture , but even the objects of their adoration it selfe , I wish therefore our Doctors would not mingle so far with 〈◊〉 as they doe , or if they will , yet they would 〈◊〉 speak so upbraidingly of those which feare to 〈◊〉 the like . I will not say they are in the gall oh bitternesse , but their invectives witnesse too 〈◊〉 that the gall of bitternesse is in them . 〈…〉 against Satan , though all evill might 〈◊〉 beene said , said none ; but Satan having nothing justly to object against Michael , yet forbare 〈◊〉 evill . I wish the Doctors hereafter would rather ●●●tate Michael then Satan . Impri●●●●Edw : 〈◊〉 . 3. Iuly . 1641. FINIS .