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             A letter to Dr. Fowler vicar of St. Giles Cripplegate in answer to his late vindicatory preface by William Newbery & William Edmvnds.
             Newbery, William.
             Edmunds, William.
          
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           Fowler, Edward, 1632-1714. -- Great wickedness and mischievous effects of slandering ... in a sermon ... with a preface ... in his own vindication.
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           A
           LETTER
           TO
           D
           r.
           FOWLER
           ,
           Vicar
           of
           St.
           GILES
           CRIPPLEGATE
           .
        
         
           IN
           ANSWER
           TO
           HIS
           Late
           Uindicatory
           Preface
           .
        
         
           By
        
         
           WILLIAM
           NEWBERY
           ,
           &
           WILLIAM
           EDMVNDS
           .
        
         
           
             Yspys
             y
             dengys
             y
             dyn
             ,
          
           
             O
             ba
             radd
             y
             bo
             ei
             wreiddyn
             .
          
        
         
           LONDON
           ,
           Printed
           in
           the
           Year
           ,
           1685.
           
        
      
    
     
       
         
         
           
           A
           LETTER
           TO
           D
           r.
           Fowler
           ,
           &c.
           
        
         
           
             Reverend
             Pastor
             ,
          
        
         
           UPON
           Perusal
           of
           a
           Preface
           to
           a
           Sermon
           upon
           Slander
           ,
           under
           your
           Name
           ,
           We
           the
           Subscribers
           of
           this
           Paper
           found
           you
           as
           hard
           upon
           us
           in
           the
           Press
           ,
           as
           you
           use
           to
           be
           in
           the
           Pulpit
           .
           And
           therefore
           for
           the
           Satisfaction
           of
           the
           World
           ,
           and
           the
           Discharge
           of
           our Selves
           ,
           we
           have
           resolv'd
           upon
           the
           Publishing
           of
           this
           Address
           .
        
         
           You
           are
           pleased
           to
           mention
           a
           Certificate
           given
           us
           ,
           and
           your
           Repentance
           for
           it
           .
           Let
           it
           not
           trouble
           you
           ,
           Sir
           ,
           for
           the
           Certificate
           has
           done
           you
           no
           harm
           ,
           and
           us
           no
           good
           :
           For
           a
           Great
           Man
           told
           us
           ,
           
             That
             it
             would
             shake
             the
             Credit
             of
             our
             Loyalty
          
           ;
           and
           so
           we
           laid
           it
           aside
           ,
           as
           a
           
             Thing
             we
             were
             not
             Proud
             of
             .
          
           The
           Words
           were
           ,
           
             That
             we
             were
             Peaceable
             ,
             and
             Christian
             like
             temper'd
             Men.
          
           And
           truly
           ,
           when
           your
           Hand
           was
           in
           upon
           Certifying
           ,
           we
           had
           a
           mind
           to
           Try
           ,
           If
           you
           would
           do
           it
           for
           Loyal
           Men
           ,
           as
           well
           as
           for
           Others
           .
        
         
           Your
           Opinion
           of
           us
           ,
           we
           perceive
           ,
           is
           much
           alter'd
           since
           you
           gave
           us
           that
           Character
           ;
           though
           the
           World
           will
           witness
           the
           Justice
           we
           have
           to
           the
           Title
           of
           it
           ,
           and
           stand
           in
           Admiration
           at
           us
           ,
           for
           Bearing
           from
           your Self
           ,
           and
           your
           Assistant
           ,
           all
           the
           
             Satyrs
             ,
             Invectives
          
           ,
           and
           Comminations
           against
           us
           ,
           that
           have
           been
           vented
           in
           the
           Pulpit
           ,
           without
           praying
           the
           Justice
           of
           the
           Law
           to
           hold
           your
           Hand
           .
        
         
           Besides
           this
           ,
           It
           hath
           been
           your
           Practice
           to
           Discourse
           of
           us
           both
           ,
           with
           Great
           and
           Small
           ,
           as
           
             Monsters
             of
             Spight
             and
             Malice
          
           ;
           which
           is
           a
           Charge
           ,
           that
           we
           shall
           in
           Charity
           divide
           betwixt
           your Self
           and
           your
           Assistant
           .
        
         
           And
           for
           our
           own
           Vindication
           ,
           We
           do
           Appeal
           to
           All
           that
           know
           us
           ,
           and
           our
           Consciences
           do
           bear
           us
           Witness
           ,
           that
           we
           never
           oppos'd
           you
           out
           of
           any
           Ill-Will
           to
           your
           Person
           ;
           but
           only
           to
           put
           a
           stop
           to
           some
           of
           your
           Latitudinarian
           Designs
           and
           Practices
           ,
           by
           a
           Due
           Course
           of
           Law.
           
        
         
           And
           since
           we
           are
           forc'd
           upon
           this
           Way
           of
           Clearing
           our Selves
           ,
           we
           must
           Impute
           the
           Cause
           now
           Depending
           ,
           to
           your
           own
           Irregular
           and
           Unwarrantable
           Proceedings
           in
           your
           Office
           ,
           which
           have
           Engaged
           us
           to
           Appear
           ,
           as
           we
           do
           ,
           for
           the
           Honour
           and
           Defence
           of
           our
           
             Mother
             Church
          
           .
           
           And
           if
           this
           be
           an
           Act
           of
           
             Spight
             and
             Malice
          
           ,
           then
           we
           are
           Guilty
           ;
           and
           our
           Crime
           is
           ,
           the
           Service
           of
           the
           Established
           Church
           .
        
         
           Your
           Preface
           goes
           on
           in
           the
           Praise
           of
           Mr.
           
             R.
             W.
          
           and
           Mr.
           S.
           The
           former
           of
           these
           you
           Represent
           for
           a
           
             Truly
             Loyal
             Conforming
             Man
          
           ,
           and
           our
           Proceedings
           against
           him
           to
           be
           Spightful
           and
           Malicious
           .
        
         
           We
           shall
           not
           Reflect
           upon
           his
           being
           a
           Souldier
           under
           Colonel
           Hacker
           ,
           and
           so
           continuing
           till
           near
           the
           Kings
           Restauration
           ;
           A
           noted
           Conventicler
           ,
           and
           one
           of
           
             Doelittles
             Congregation
          
           ,
           till
           he
           came
           to
           be
           Church-warden
           of
           Cripplegate
           .
        
         
           We
           shall
           not
           Reflect
           upon
           his
           Rude
           ,
           Trifling
           ,
           Antick
           Gesture
           ,
           at
           the
           Church
           ,
           in
           the
           time
           of
           Divine
           Service
           ,
           which
           appeared
           no
           other
           to
           the
           Congregation
           ,
           than
           a
           Ridiculing
           of
           the
           very
           Office
           ,
           as
           well
           as
           the
           Performance
           of
           that
           Holy
           Duty
           .
        
         
           We
           could
           tell
           you
           ,
           Sir
           ,
           That
           since
           his
           
             Certified
             Conformity
          
           ,
           which
           we
           account
           upon
           ,
           as
           the
           Date
           of
           his
           Conversion
           ,
           we
           never
           heard
           ,
           that
           he
           ever
           gave
           the
           Church
           Service
           one
           good
           word
           ,
           or
           ever
           Attended
           to
           it
           with
           that
           Reverence
           as
           he
           ought
           to
           do
           .
        
         
           We
           presume
           you
           
             are
             no
             Stranger
          
           ,
           Sir
           ,
           to
           a
           Passage
           of
           His
           at
           a
           
             Ward-Moot
             Inquest
          
           .
           Where
           a
           Motion
           was
           made
           to
           begin
           the
           Work
           ,
           with
           Reading
           the
           Morning
           Prayers
           .
           Your
           truly
           
             Loyal
             and
             Conforming
          
           Mr.
           W.
           opposed
           it
           ,
           
             Calling
             it
             an
             Innovation
             .
             I
             hope
             ,
          
           Mr.
           W.
           (
           say's
           one
           )
           
             you
             will
             not
             call
             the
             Prayers
             an
             Innovation
             ,
             I
             mean
             ,
          
           says
           Mr.
           
             W.
             the
             bringing
             of
             them
             into
             the
             Quest
             is
             an
             Innovation
             .
          
           To
           which
           one
           Replyed
           :
           
             That
             it
             was
             generally
             used
             in
             all
             the
             Quests
             in
          
           London
           ,
           
             and
             had
             been
             used
             in
          
           Cripplegate
           
             too
             before
             Mr.
          
           W.
           
             was
             born
          
           .
           Whereupon
           Mr.
           W.
           flew
           from
           the
           Table
           ,
           crying
           ,
           
             They
             that
             will
             have
             a
             May-pole
             ,
             shall
             have
             a
             May-pole
             .
          
           And
           as
           the
           rest
           were
           Rising
           to
           go
           to
           Church
           to
           Prayers
           ,
           Mr.
           W.
           got
           him
           to
           the
           Fire
           in
           the
           Chamber
           ,
           saying
           ;
           
             You
             that
             are
             so
             hot
             in
             Zeal
             ,
             that
             can
             be
             warmed
             by
             Prayers
             ,
             may
             go
             into
             the
             Church
             ;
             As
             for
             my
             part
             ,
             they
             never
             warmed
             me
             in
             all
             my
             Life
             ;
             I
             'le
             stay
             and
             warm
             my self
             by
             the
             Fire
             .
             And
             if
             I
             had
             thought
             this
             ,
             that
             you
             would
             have
             had
             Prayers
             ,
             I
             would
             have
             bespoke
             some
             Fidlers
             this
             Morning
             ,
             that
             I
             saw
             at
          
           Tom
           Charnley
           's
           ,
           (
           an
           Ale-house-Keeper
           )
           ;
           
             For
             Prayers
             without
             Musick
             do's
             not
             do
             well
             .
          
           And
           during
           the
           whole
           Session
           ,
           he
           never
           went
           with
           the
           Quest
           to
           Prayers
           ,
           though
           he
           was
           a
           Member
           of
           it
           .
        
         
           The
           Report
           of
           this
           Scandalous
           Rudeness
           being
           told
           in
           the
           hearing
           of
           Mr.
           Recorder
           ,
           he
           was
           pleased
           to
           examine
           the
           Matter
           ,
           and
           to
           appoint
           the
           Reporters
           of
           it
           to
           come
           to
           the
           Sessions
           at
           Guild-Hall
           ,
           and
           there
           to
           Deliver
           their
           Information
           upon
           Oath
           ;
           which
           accordingly
           they
           did
           .
           And
           the
           Recorder
           Ordered
           an
           Information
           to
           be
           Exhibited
           against
           Mr.
           W.
           for
           Depraving
           and
           Ridiculing
           the
           
             Church
             Service
          
           .
           But
           by
           great
           and
           powerful
           Sollicitation
           on
           his
           behalf
           ,
           there
           was
           a
           
             Noli
             Prosequi
          
           granted
           ,
           before
           the
           next
           Term
           ;
           not
           for
           the
           Baseness
           of
           the
           Cause
           ,
           as
           you
           would
           have
           People
           believe
           ,
           but
           for
           other
           Reasons
           ,
           not
           so
           proper
           for
           this
           Occasion
           .
        
         
           Another
           Instance
           of
           Mr.
           
           W's
           Affection
           to
           the
           Church
           may
           be
           this
           .
           The
           Alderman
           of
           the
           Ward
           Ordered
           the
           Presenting
           of
           all
           Conventicle
           Houses
           .
           In
           pursuance
           whereof
           a
           Motion
           was
           made
           in
           the
           very
           
             same
             Quest
          
           .
           Upon
           this
           up
           starts
           Mr.
           W.
           and
           called
           it
           ,
           
             A
             Spiteful
             and
             Malicious
             Motion
             :
             For
             who
             could
             prove
             the
             Proprietors
             of
             Conventicle
             Houses
             .
          
           To
           which
           it
           was
           replyed
           ,
           
             That
             they
             would
             be
             easily
             found
             out
             .
             Why
             then
             ,
          
           
           aith
           Mr.
           
             W.
             make
             what
             Presentments
             you
             will
             ,
             For
             my
             part
             I
             will
             never
             set
             my
             Hand
             to
             them
             .
          
        
         
           A
           Word
           more
           now
           ,
           with
           your
           Favour
           ,
           to
           his
           Loyalty
           ,
           He
           was
           as
           
             Active
             a
             Stirrer
          
           in
           the
           Tumultuous
           Elections
           at
           Guild-Hall
           as
           any
           Man
           ;
           and
           Polled
           always
           on
           the
           Factious
           side
           .
           He
           was
           All
           in
           All
           with
           his
           Friend
           Bateman
           (
           at
           present
           Prisoner
           for
           the
           Conspiracy
           )
           to
           get
           Hands
           to
           a
           Seditious
           Petition
           .
           And
           whoever
           refused
           it
           ,
           he
           Branded
           him
           for
           a
           Papist
           ;
           Particularly
           Mr.
           Newbery
           ,
           now
           Deputy
           of
           the
           Ward
           .
           And
           this
           must
           be
           no
           part
           of
           the
           Quarrel
           you
           are
           pleased
           to
           Mention
           .
        
         
           The
           Steeple
           was
           so
           Crazy
           it
           seems
           ,
           that
           on
           the
           29
           th
           of
           May
           ,
           Mr.
           W.
           would
           not
           let
           the
           
             Bells
             be
             Rung
             ,
             for
             fear
             it
             should
             fall
             .
          
           And
           yet
           upon
           
             Shaftsburie's
             Ignoramus
             Jury
          
           ,
           the
           Steeple
           was
           strong
           enough
           to
           bear
           it
           .
           He
           himself
           ,
           as
           Church-warden
           ,
           ordered
           the
           Bells
           to
           be
           Rung
           ,
           and
           made
           a
           Bonfire
           at
           his
           Own
           Door
           ,
           for
           Joy
           ,
           at
           the
           Deliverance
           .
           It
           s
           very
           true
           ,
           Sir
           ,
           that
           he
           was
           Tallow-Chandler
           also
           to
           your
           Good
           Lord
           and
           Master
           ,
           and
           that
           we
           hope
           was
           the
           Ground
           of
           your
           Certifying
           Mr.
           W.
           to
           be
           a
           truly
           Loyal
           Conforming
           Man.
           
        
         
           As
           for
           Mr.
           S.
           Your
           Commendations
           are
           well
           bestowed
           on
           him
           ;
           For
           he
           is
           your
           Grand
           Informer
           ,
           a
           Talebearer
           betwixt
           you
           and
           your
           Parishioners
           ,
           a
           very
           Busy-Body
           in
           other
           Mens
           Offices
           and
           Affairs
           .
           And
           for
           his
           Reputation
           ,
           There
           is
           not
           a
           Curate
           in
           England
           ,
           that
           either
           Studies
           less
           ,
           or
           Usurps
           more
           upon
           his
           Neighbours
           .
        
         
           We
           do
           not
           dislike
           him
           indeed
           ,
           Sir
           ,
           for
           his
           Sermons
           upon
           Restitution
           ,
           as
           you
           would
           be
           thought
           to
           Imagine
           ;
           For
           they
           were
           Preacht
           before
           we
           ever
           bore
           Office
           in
           the
           Parish
           .
           And
           so
           we
           could
           not
           be
           Instruments
           of
           Wasting
           the
           
             Poors
             .
             Stock
          
           ,
           which
           most
           Untruly
           ,
           as
           well
           as
           Invidiously
           ,
           you
           intimate
           in
           your
           Preface
           But
           if
           you
           will
           allow
           a
           Falshood
           to
           bring
           Truth
           to
           light
           ,
           we
           shall
           now
           tell
           you
           the
           Story
           of
           those
           Sermons
           .
        
         
           It
           was
           Mr.
           
           S's
           Hap
           one
           Day
           to
           be
           chopping
           of
           Logick
           with
           a
           
             Pawn
             Broker
          
           in
           the
           Parish
           ,
           who
           Reproving
           Mr.
           S.
           for
           some
           Ill
           thing
           he
           had
           done
           ,
           Mr.
           S.
           was
           much
           Offended
           at
           him
           ,
           insomuch
           that
           he
           fell
           upon
           the
           Mans
           Calling
           the
           next
           Sunday
           in
           the
           Pulpit
           ,
           with
           the
           Doctrine
           of
           Restitution
           ;
           where
           he
           Denounc't
           Damnation
           ,
           against
           Usury
           ,
           Extortion
           ,
           and
           Oppression
           .
        
         
           But
           this
           Treatment
           is
           no
           News
           from
           Mr.
           S.
           to
           our
           Parish
           and
           Officers
           ,
           and
           our
           Great
           Slander
           and
           Damage
           .
           For
           by
           these
           Calumnies
           ,
           He
           has
           diverted
           the
           Charity
           of
           divers
           of
           our
           Good
           Benefactors
           ,
           and
           gotten
           the
           Mony
           into
           his
           own
           Hand
           ,
           whereof
           he
           gives
           no
           Account
           .
        
         
           He
           makes
           a
           great
           Noise
           indeed
           ,
           how
           much
           the
           Poor
           are
           obliged
           to
           him
           ,
           and
           yet
           by
           your
           Favour
           and
           His
           ,
           the
           Number
           is
           much
           encreased
           ,
           and
           the
           Taxes
           considerably
           raised
           ,
           since
           he
           came
           amongst
           us
           .
        
         
           He
           had
           once
           a
           Project
           of
           setting
           up
           a
           Nursery
           in
           the
           Parish
           to
           lessen
           the
           Charge
           ,
           and
           bring
           poor
           Children
           up
           to
           Learning
           .
           To
           this
           end
           he
           got
           the
           Benevolence
           of
           several
           Good
           People
           ,
           and
           Eighteen
           pence
           a
           Week
           of
           the
           Parish
           for
           every
           Child
           he
           took
           ,
           being
           the
           very
           Price
           they
           were
           kept
           at
           before
           .
           He
           stockt
           his
           Nursery
           with
           about
           twenty
           of
           these
           Children
           ,
           who
           as
           they
           went
           every
           Sunday
           Morning
           to
           Cornhill
           Lecture
           ,
           gave
           the
           Spectators
           to
           understand
           ,
           that
           they
           were
           Mr.
           
           S's
           Charity-Children
           But
           instead
           of
           being
           Taught
           ,
           these
           Poor
           Children
           were
           let
           out
           to
           
             Cooks
             Shops
             ,
             Spinning-Wheels
          
           ,
           or
           the
           like
           ,
           at
           Twelve
           pence
           or
           Eighteen
           pence
           a
           Week
           ,
           and
           were
           so
           scantly
           fed
           ,
           and
           nastily
           kept
           ,
           that
           the
           Churchwardens
           or
           Overseers
           ,
           took
           them
           away
           to
           their
           old
           Maintenance
           ,
           and
           some
           of
           them
           dying
           ,
           it
           was
           not
           thought
           convenient
           to
           give
           the
           Searchers
           the
           View
           of
           their
           Bodies
           .
        
         
           This
           shall
           be
           made
           good
           (
           whenever
           Mr
           S.
           pleases
           )
           to
           any
           Court
           of
           Justice
           ,
           without
           any
           need
           of
           his
           Prophaning
           the
           Pulpit
           with
           Ribaldry
           ,
           and
           Scandal
           against
           his
           Neighbours
           .
        
         
           And
           therefore
           ,
           Sir
           ,
           as
           you
           value
           your
           own
           Credit
           and
           Ours
           ,
           be
           no
           longer
           led
           by
           Mr.
           S.
           into
           these
           uncharitable
           Mistakes
           ;
           Curates
           do
           not
           behave
           themselves
           
           thus
           in
           other
           Parishes
           .
           And
           its
           hard
           for
           Cripplegate
           ,
           to
           be
           the
           only
           Curate-Ridden
           Parish
           in
           London
           .
        
         
           Many
           of
           his
           Sermons
           are
           not
           only
           Personal
           Invectives
           ,
           but
           some
           of
           them
           so
           Broad
           and
           Course
           :
           That
           the
           Men
           he
           Intends
           ,
           are
           Pointed
           at
           by
           the
           Congregation
           .
           But
           it
           s
           well
           ▪
           if
           he
           does
           not
           play
           the
           Muggleton
           ,
           and
           pronounce
           them
           Damn'd
           .
        
         
           We
           have
           born
           these
           Indignities
           thus
           long
           ,
           more
           out
           of
           Respect
           to
           the
           Holy
           Function
           ,
           than
           to
           the
           Curate
           ;
           and
           we
           do
           joyntly
           desire
           you
           would
           keep
           him
           to
           his
           Text
           ,
           and
           advise
           him
           to
           Preach
           
             Jesus
             Christ
          
           as
           becomes
           a
           Minister
           of
           the
           Gospel
           .
           But
           the
           main
           Business
           is
           yet
           to
           come
           .
           The
           Cause
           depending
           in
           
             Doctors
             Commons
          
           ,
           betwixt
           your self
           and
           One
           of
           us
           .
        
         
           The
           Sum
           of
           your
           Preface
           on
           that
           Matter
           ,
           is
           partly
           Accusation
           ,
           partly
           Excuse
           .
           And
           the
           Printing
           of
           it
           might
           have
           bin
           spar'd
           ,
           after
           so
           many
           Private
           Discourses
           and
           Publick
           Preachments
           upon
           that
           Subject
           ,
           wherein
           you
           have
           
             made
             us
             ,
             and
             some
             others
             of
             our
             Neighbours
             ,
             a
             Parcel
             of
             Lewd
             ,
             Vicious
             ,
             Prophane
             ,
             Scandalous
             ,
             Debauch't
             Fellows
             .
          
           Wherein
           the
           whole
           Parish
           ,
           and
           all
           that
           know
           us
           ,
           and
           will
           speak
           Truth
           ,
           will
           appear
           to
           our
           Vindication
           .
           Sir
           ,
           you
           should
           do
           well
           ,
           to
           lay
           your
           Certificate
           and
           your
           Sermons
           together
           ,
           and
           Reconcile
           this
           Character
           to
           the
           other
           .
           In
           the
           mean
           while
           deal
           with
           us
           as
           a
           Gentleman
           ,
           a
           Christian
           and
           a
           Minister
           .
           You
           are
           pleased
           to
           Insinuate
           ,
           
             That
             we
             are
             Netled
             at
             your
             Preaching
             Impartially
             against
             certain
             Vices
             ,
             which
             make
             Loyal
             Conformists
             a
             Disgrace
             to
             the
             King
             and
             the
             Church
             .
          
           Now
           the
           Truth
           is
           ,
           Those
           Vices
           are
           rather
           chargeable
           upon
           your
           sort
           of
           Loyal
           Conformists
           ,
           than
           upon
           any
           of
           the
           King
           's
           and
           Churches
           ,
           that
           we
           know
           of
           .
           And
           the
           scope
           of
           your
           Present
           Design
           is
           this
           ,
           There
           is
           a
           Heavy
           Charge
           sworn
           against
           you
           at
           
             Doctors
             Commons
          
           ;
           And
           one
           of
           us
           is
           the
           Fair
           and
           Open
           Prosecutor
           of
           it
           .
           So
           that
           if
           you
           can
           either
           Blast
           us
           in
           our
           Credit
           ,
           or
           disable
           us
           in
           our
           Fortunes
           ,
           from
           going
           thorough
           with
           it
           ,
           you
           do
           a
           great
           part
           of
           your
           Work.
           And
           upon
           this
           Consideration
           ,
           you
           have
           not
           left
           a
           Stone
           unturned
           to
           Defame
           us
           with
           Persons
           of
           Honour
           ,
           and
           to
           Disparage
           us
           in
           our
           Dealings
           with
           our
           Customers
           and
           Tradesmen
           ,
           to
           say
           nothing
           of
           your
           Reflection
           upon
           the
           Alderman
           of
           the
           Ward
           for
           chusing
           so
           Vile
           ,
           Scandalous
           ,
           and
           Debauch't
           a
           Creature
           ,
           as
           you
           have
           Represented
           his
           Deputy
           to
           be
           .
           Who
           is
           so
           sensible
           of
           these
           Indignities
           ,
           that
           he
           is
           resolved
           in
           the
           first
           place
           to
           acquit
           himself
           ,
           and
           afterwards
           to
           Resign
           on
           St.
           
           Thoma's
           Day
           next
           Ensuing
           .
        
         
           For
           the
           best
           Words
           you
           can
           bestow
           on
           him
           and
           others
           are
           these
           ;
           
             Enemies
             ,
             Malitious
             Enemies
             ,
             Implacable
             Spirited
             Men
             ,
             Wretched
             Lyars
             ,
             Vile-Slanderers
             ,
             Vicious
             Debauch't
             Men
             ,
             not
             known
             whether
             Papists
             ,
             Contrivers
             of
             Mischief
             ,
             Deprav'd
             ,
             Forsaken
             of
             Divine
             Grace
             ,
          
           &c.
           
           And
           whoever
           compares
           the
           Doctrine
           of
           your
           Sermon
           ,
           with
           the
           Practice
           of
           the
           Preface
           and
           Conclusion
           ,
           will
           hardly
           believe
           one
           and
           the
           same
           Wise
           Man
           to
           have
           bin
           the
           Author
           of
           them
           .
           Or
           that
           the
           Design
           of
           Christianity
           and
           of
           your
           Preface
           ,
           had
           one
           and
           the
           same
           Father
           .
        
         
           The
           first
           Visible
           Change
           of
           your
           Countenance
           and
           Carriage
           towards
           us
           was
           (
           as
           we
           have
           Good
           Cause
           to
           Remember
           )
           just
           upon
           our
           Suppressing
           six
           or
           seven
           Conventicles
           in
           the
           Freedom
           Part
           of
           the
           Parish
           ;
           And
           after
           that
           ,
           upon
           our
           Endeavours
           to
           Purge
           the
           Vestry
           of
           some
           very
           Ill
           Men
           ,
           (
           which
           by
           your
           and
           Mr.
           
           S's
           Artifice
           had
           bin
           lately
           Introduc'd
           )
           your
           Countenance
           seem'd
           to
           be
           further
           altered
           towards
           us
           .
           The
           one
           of
           these
           was
           an
           Anabaptist
           ;
           Another
           ,
           an
           
             Anabaptist
             Preacher
          
           ;
           the
           Third
           an
           
             Elder
             of
          
           Griffith
           
             's
             Congregation
          
           ,
           and
           a
           Conspirator
           ;
           and
           the
           Rest
           of
           the
           same
           Leaven
           ,
           and
           who
           could
           never
           be
           Admitted
           by
           your
           Predecessor
           the
           Bishop
           of
           Gloucester
           .
        
         
           It
           's
           ,
           Sir
           ,
           you
           know
           ,
           a
           Populous
           Parish
           ,
           and
           we
           thought
           it
           our
           Duty
           to
           the
           Government
           to
           do
           what
           we
           did
           .
           We
           Petitioned
           His
           Majesty
           in
           this
           Affair
           ,
           and
           obtain'd
           a
           Gracious
           Reference
           to
           Mr.
           
             Attorney
             General
          
           and
           Mr.
           Recorder
           :
           And
           you
           your self
           were
           present
           ,
           with
           a
           great
           many
           more
           of
           the
           Parish
           ,
           at
           a
           full
           Hearing
           before
           Mr.
           Recorder
           and
           the
           Alderman
           of
           the
           Ward
           ;
           where
           you
           were
           urged
           again
           to
           clear
           
             the
             Vestry
             of
             those
             Men.
          
           Your
           Reply
           was
           ,
           
             That
             they
             were
             New
             Converts
             ,
             or
             upon
             Coming
             over
             ,
             and
             sober
             Men
             ;
             and
             that
             you
             thought
             in
             time
          
           
           
             hey
             might
             prove
             useful
             Persons
             to
             the
             Government
             .
          
           To
           which
           the
           Alderman
           made
           Answer
           ,
           
             Truly
             Doctor
             ,
             if
             they
             are
             such
             ,
             you
             should
             have
             made
             six
             or
             seven
             years
             Tryal
             of
             them
             before
             you
             brought
             them
             into
             the
             Vestry
             ▪
          
           But
           at
           length
           ▪
           after
           much
           strugling
           ,
           you
           desir'd
           them
           to
           withdraw
           themselves
           from
           the
           Vestry
           in
           such
           a
           manner
           ,
           that
           every
           Body
           saw
           your
           Heart
           went
           along
           with
           them
           ,
           even
           when
           you
           parted
           with
           them
           .
        
         
           You
           speak
           of
           Articles
           Exhibited
           against
           you
           ,
           and
           you
           say
           ,
           That
           
             the
             First
          
           (
           for
           
             Obstructings
             Presentments
             )
             had
             nothing
             like
             ▪
             a
             Proof
             of
             it
             Produc'd
             in
             Court
          
           ;
           but
           in
           this
           we
           Remit
           our selves
           to
           the
           Law.
           
        
         
           
             You
             cannot
             but
             remember
             ,
             Sir
             ,
             how
             Fierce
             you
             were
             upon
             the
          
           Deputy
           in
           Doctors
           Commons
           ,
           Exclaiming
           ,
           What
           had
           a
           Deputy
           of
           a
           Ward
           to
           do
           to
           meddle
           with
           Presentments
           ?
           
             and
             Threatning
             him
          
           ,
           That
           if
           the
           Churchwardens
           Presented
           those
           whose
           Names
           he
           had
           given
           ,
           you
           would
           Present
           the
           Churchwardens
           for
           Perjury
           ,
           and
           Him
           for
           not
           coming
           to
           Church
           on
           Holy-days
           .
        
         
           We
           must
           mind
           you
           likewise
           ,
           Sir
           ,
           of
           your
           Suppressing
           the
           Order
           appointed
           to
           be
           Publish'd
           for
           the
           Presenting
           of
           all
           People
           that
           did
           not
           come
           to
           the
           Sacrament
           ;
           and
           of
           your
           calling
           it
           ,
           
             A
             Device
             to
             make
             the
             Clergy
             Odious
             .
          
        
         
           You
           told
           the
           Churchwardens
           (
           you
           say
           )
           
             That
             ,
             they
             should
             Present
             Impartially
             ,
             and
             not
             gratifie
             any
             Mans
             particular
             Pique
             or
             Disgust
             .
          
           If
           your
           meaning
           was
           ,
           They
           must
           Present
           All
           ,
           or
           None
           ,
           there
           must
           then
           be
           no
           Presentments
           at
           all
           :
           For
           how
           should
           they
           take
           Cognizance
           of
           at
           least
           Thirty
           thousand
           Souls
           in
           that
           Parish
           ?
           So
           that
           since
           All
           could
           not
           be
           taken
           notice
           of
           ,
           why
           might
           not
           the
           same
           Prudent
           Course
           serve
           in
           Cripplegate
           ,
           as
           well
           as
           in
           all
           other
           Parishes
           ;
           that
           is
           ,
           to
           Single
           out
           the
           Heads
           and
           Ring-Leaders
           of
           the
           Faction
           ,
           which
           would
           probably
           bring
           the
           Inferior
           Sort
           of
           Dissenters
           into
           better
           Order
           ?
           This
           Course
           was
           commended
           by
           Dr.
           P.
           in
           
             Eighty
             two
          
           and
           
             Eighty
             three
          
           ,
           and
           in
           several
           places
           had
           good
           Success
           .
        
         
           We
           need
           say
           no
           more
           to
           Prove
           the
           Good-will
           you
           had
           to
           the
           Obstructing
           of
           Presentments
           :
           So
           that
           now
           we
           shall
           briefly
           set
           before
           you
           the
           Inconveniences
           that
           followed
           upon
           your
           Backwardness
           to
           Present
           .
        
         
           The
           Warmth
           which
           you
           were
           pleased
           to
           express
           toward
           the
           Covering
           and
           Protecting
           of
           Phanaticks
           ,
           presently
           made
           Cripplegate
           a
           Sanctuary
           for
           the
           Dissenters
           ,
           and
           brought
           them
           out
           of
           other
           Parishes
           into
           Ours
           ,
           as
           if
           they
           had
           Fled
           from
           Persecution
           into
           a
           City
           of
           Refuge
           .
           They
           themselves
           owning
           and
           declaring
           ,
           
             That
             they
             should
             not
             be
             Molested
             with
             us
             ,
             for
             any
             Church
             Matters
             or
             Sacraments
             .
          
        
         
           As
           for
           the
           Second
           Article
           ,
           concerning
           your
           Administring
           the
           Sacrament
           to
           
             Excommunicated
             Persons
          
           ,
           there
           needs
           no
           farther
           Proof
           ,
           than
           your
           own
           Answer
           to
           the
           Libel
           in
           Court
           ,
           and
           your
           own
           Confession
           and
           Declaration
           in
           your
           Preface
           .
        
         
           It
           's
           something
           however
           ,
           that
           the
           Excommunicates
           were
           Notorious
           Dissenters
           ,
           and
           chosen
           (
           by
           your
           Interest
           and
           Influence
           )
           Churchwardens
           in
           the
           Lordship
           part
           of
           the
           Parish
           ,
           contrary
           to
           the
           Liking
           of
           the
           Loyal
           Men
           in
           that
           Vestry
           .
           Nay
           ,
           there
           are
           some
           that
           say
           ,
           
             You
             were
             resolv'd
             they
             should
             be
             Churchwardens
             ,
             for
             this
             very
             Reason
             ,
             That
             they
             would
             make
             no
             Presentments
             .
          
        
         
           After
           this
           they
           were
           Cited
           to
           take
           the
           
             Churchwardens
             Oath
          
           ,
           which
           they
           peremptorily
           refused
           to
           do
           ;
           and
           thereupon
           a
           Sentence
           of
           Excommunication
           was
           Pronounc'd
           against
           them
           in
           the
           Court
           ,
           in
           Form
           :
           And
           an
           Instrument
           for
           Publishing
           the
           same
           in
           the
           Church
           was
           sent
           to
           you
           ,
           which
           for
           some
           time
           you
           laid
           by
           ,
           according
           to
           
             Good
             Advice
          
           ,
           (
           as
           you
           say
           )
           and
           afterwards
           
             Admitted
             these
             Person
             's
             to
             the
             Sacrament
             ,
          
           being
           
             Actually
             Excommunicated
          
           and
           before
           they
           were
           Absolv'd
           ;
           though
           after
           they
           had
           Receiv'd
           ,
           you
           did
           your
           Best
           to
           have
           them
           Absolved
           .
           Let
           any
           Man
           make
           an
           Excuse
           for
           this
           Vsurpation
           ,
           if
           he
           can
           .
           No
           ,
           say
           you
           ,
           
             there
             is
             no
             need
             of
             it
             ;
             for
             I
             have
             made
             a
             sufficient
             Apology
             for
             it
             my self
             in
             these
             Words
             of
             my
             Preface
             .
          
        
         
           I
           had
           leave
           to
           defer
           the
           Publishing
           of
           that
           Excommunication
           ;
           and
           the
           Sacrament
           was
           given
           them
           before
           it
           was
           Publish'd
           :
           And
           I
           had
           then
           great
           Assurance
           ,
           that
           Excommunications
           can
           take
           no
           Effect
           till
           they
           are
           Publish'd
           :
           And
           what
           I
           did
           ,
           was
           done
           upon
           the
           Best
           Advice
           I
           was
           capable
           of
           Having
           ;
           and
           I
           rely'd
           upon
           the
           
             AUTHORITY
             OF
             MORE
             THAN
             ONE
             ECCLESIASTICAL
             JUDGE
             .
          
           And
           
           the
           same
           Article
           had
           been
           Exhibited
           against
           many
           other
           Divines
           besides
           my Self
           ,
           had
           they
           been
           so
           unhappy
           ,
           as
           to
           have
           had
           in
           those
           Parishes
           any
           People
           of
           such
           Venemous
           Spirits
           as
           I
           am
           Infested
           with
           :
           So
           that
           ,
           if
           this
           were
           a
           Fault
           ,
           it
           was
           a
           Fault
           of
           most
           Excusable
           (
           if
           I
           may
           not
           say
           )
           Invincible
           Ignorance
           .
        
         
           You
           must
           now
           give
           us
           leave
           ,
           Sir
           ,
           to
           make
           some
           Remarks
           upon
           your
           Apology
           .
           First
           ,
           We
           find
           that
           
             Doctors
             Commons
          
           and
           Dr.
           Fowler
           are
           divided
           upon
           the
           Question
           :
           They
           are
           positive
           that
           it
           's
           a
           Fault
           ,
           and
           the
           Doctor
           is
           doubtful
           ;
           for
           you
           say
           ,
           
             If
             it
             be
             a
             Fault
          
           .
        
         
           Secondly
           ,
           It
           seems
           not
           to
           stand
           with
           the
           Honour
           of
           your
           Dignity
           in
           the
           Church
           ,
           to
           pretend
           Ignorance
           in
           a
           Point
           of
           the
           highest
           Nature
           in
           our
           Church
           Discipline
           .
        
         
           Thirdly
           ,
           Your
           Defence
           is
           only
           Crimination
           ,
           and
           you
           should
           not
           have
           brought
           your
           Advisers
           upon
           the
           Stage
           ;
           but
           rather
           have
           kept
           that
           Secret
           behind
           the
           Curtain
           .
        
         
           Fourthly
           ,
           You
           should
           have
           spar'd
           them
           for
           the
           sake
           of
           the
           
             Ten
             Pounds
          
           Cost
           you
           boast
           of
           ,
           and
           some
           other
           Reasons
           :
           For
           it
           's
           a
           New
           thing
           ,
           for
           a
           Criminal
           ,
           who
           Confesses
           the
           Fact
           ,
           to
           be
           Clear'd
           ;
           and
           the
           Accuser
           ,
           or
           Prosecutor
           ,
           that
           makes
           Good
           his
           Charge
           ,
           to
           be
           Punish'd
           .
        
         
           Fifthly
           ,
           The
           Many
           Divines
           you
           speak
           of
           are
           Men
           that
           we
           never
           yet
           heard
           of
           .
        
         
           Sixthly
           ,
           We
           will
           leave
           the
           World
           to
           Judge
           ,
           whether
           the
           Fault
           lyes
           in
           the
           
             Venemous
             Parishioners
          
           ,
           or
           in
           the
           
             Peevish
             Minister
          
           .
        
         
           Seventhly
           ,
           We
           take
           your
           Slanders
           the
           less
           ill
           ,
           because
           you
           make
           no
           Bolder
           with
           us
           ,
           than
           with
           Our
           Ecclesiastical
           Judges
           ,
           and
           many
           of
           our
           Divines
           ,
           nay
           ,
           with
           our
           Mother
           Church
           it self
           ,
           in
           giving
           the
           Church
           of
           Rome
           the
           Advantage
           of
           Throwing
           a
           Reproach
           upon
           us
           ,
           which
           we
           believe
           She
           never
           had
           before
           ,
           since
           the
           
             Blessed
             Reformation
          
           .
        
         
           For
           what
           will
           they
           say
           ,
           to
           see
           such
           a
           Doctrine
           so
           Authorized
           ,
           and
           a
           Parochial
           Minister
           in
           the
           Church
           of
           England
           take
           more
           upon
           him
           than
           the
           Pope
           of
           Rome
           ;
           that
           is
           to
           say
           ,
           in
           Admitting
           of
           Excommunicated
           Persons
           to
           the
           Communion
           before
           they
           are
           Absolv'd
           ?
        
         
           Sir
           ,
           As
           we
           have
           done
           you
           no
           Wrong
           all
           this
           while
           ,
           so
           we
           will
           now
           do
           you
           this
           Right
           in
           the
           Story
           about
           the
           Election
           of
           
             Common
             Council
          
           Men
           ,
           to
           Declare
           ,
           That
           we
           believe
           you
           were
           no
           ways
           concerned
           in
           it
           ;
           but
           that
           the
           Greater
           part
           of
           it
           belongs
           properly
           to
           Mr.
           S.
           
        
         
           And
           now
           to
           Conclude
           ,
           We
           cannot
           but
           Observe
           what
           an
           unlucky
           Hand
           you
           have
           had
           at
           Vindications
           :
           You
           wrote
           one
           against
           Bunnion
           the
           Tinker
           ;
           Another
           for
           Breaking
           the
           Church-Windows
           at
           Gloucester
           ,
           and
           making
           use
           of
           the
           Trinity
           in
           the
           Seal
           ,
           that
           was
           Idolatry
           in
           the
           Glass
           .
           This
           Preface
           of
           yours
           is
           the
           Third
           ;
           and
           we
           do
           not
           know
           ,
           but
           that
           this
           Letter
           of
           Ours
           may
           Produce
           a
           Fourth
           .
        
         
           If
           all
           this
           be
           for
           your
           Health
           ,
           and
           by
           way
           of
           Prescription
           ,
           as
           
             (
             a
             Wag
             said
          
           )
           now
           and
           then
           to
           take
           a
           lusty
           Dose
           of
           Vindication
           Pills
           to
           Purge
           Choler
           ,
           
             we
             wish
             you
             good
             speed
             .
             We
             would
             do
             this
             in
             better
             Terms
             ,
             but
          
           Letters
           and
           Vindications
           
             are
             none
             of
             our
             Talent
          
           .
        
         
           You
           were
           pleased
           to
           bestow
           a
           Couple
           of
           Latin
           Verses
           upon
           us
           at
           the
           end
           of
           your
           Preface
           ;
           it
           's
           possible
           they
           may
           be
           something
           against
           our
           Church
           ,
           but
           we
           understand
           them
           not
           .
        
         
           We
           presume
           however
           ,
           that
           they
           will
           do
           as
           well
           at
           the
           End
           of
           a
           Letter
           ,
           as
           at
           the
           End
           of
           a
           Preface
           ;
           And
           therefore
           we
           shall
           conclude
           with
           them
           ,
           Desiring
           ,
           that
           if
           your
           Book
           comes
           to
           a
           Second
           Edition
           you
           would
           bless
           the
           World
           with
           your
           Crippling
           Verses
           in
           English
           .
        
         
           
             Hoc
             mihi
             pro
             certo
             quod
             si
             cum
             Stercore
             certo
             ,
          
           
             Vinco
             ,
             seu
             Vincor
             ,
             certe
             Ego
             Maculor
             .
          
        
         
           
             Sir
             ,
          
           We
           ask
           your
           Pardon
           for
           the
           Freedom
           we
           have
           taken
           to
           Vindicate
           (
           according
           to
           your
           Certificate
           ,
           )
           
             Sir
             ,
          
           
             Your
             Peaceable
             and
             Christian-like
             Temper'd
             Parishioners
             and
             Servants
             ,
             
               
                 WILLIAM
                 NEWBERY
                 ,
                 Deputy
                 .
              
               
                 WILLIAM
                 EDMUNDS
                 .