Some few and short considerations on the present distempers; by J.P. Price, John, Citizen of London. This text is an enriched version of the TCP digital transcription A90970 of text R16453 in the English Short Title Catalog (Thomason E108_28 E240_47). Textual changes and metadata enrichments aim at making the text more computationally tractable, easier to read, and suitable for network-based collaborative curation by amateur and professional end users from many walks of life. The text has been tokenized and linguistically annotated with MorphAdorner. The annotation includes standard spellings that support the display of a text in a standardized format that preserves archaic forms ('loveth', 'seekest'). Textual changes aim at restoring the text the author or stationer meant to publish. This text has not been fully proofread Approx. 14 KB of XML-encoded text transcribed from 5 1-bit group-IV TIFF page images. EarlyPrint Project Evanston,IL, Notre Dame, IN, St. Louis, MO 2017 A90970 Wing P3347 Thomason E108_28 Thomason E240_47 ESTC R16453 99860034 99860034 130503 This keyboarded and encoded edition of the work described above is co-owned by the institutions providing financial support to the Early English Books Online Text Creation Partnership. This Phase I text is available for reuse, according to the terms of Creative Commons 0 1.0 Universal . The text can be copied, modified, distributed and performed, even for commercial purposes, all without asking permission. Early English books online. (EEBO-TCP ; phase 1, no. A90970) Transcribed from: (Early English Books Online ; image set 130503) Images scanned from microfilm: (Thomason Tracts ; 19:E108[28] or 41:E240[47]) Some few and short considerations on the present distempers; by J.P. Price, John, Citizen of London. 8 p. s.n., [London : 1642] J.P. = John Price. Caption title. Imprint from Wing. Annotation on Thomason copy: E108[28]: "Dr. Price: J.P."; "July 30th 1642". Annotation on Thomason copy E.240[47]: "Ex Dono Authoris"; "Octob: 28 1642". Reproductions of the originals in the British Library. eng Great Britain -- Politics and government -- 1642-1649 -- Early works to 1800. Great Britain -- History -- Civil War, 1642-1649 -- Early works to 1800. A90970 R16453 (Thomason E108_28 E240_47). civilwar no Some few and short considerations on the present distempers;: by J.P. Price, John, Citizen of London 1642 2542 2 5 0 0 0 0 28 C The rate of 28 defects per 10,000 words puts this text in the C category of texts with between 10 and 35 defects per 10,000 words. 2007-02 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2007-02 Apex CoVantage Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2007-03 Pip Willcox Sampled and proofread 2007-03 Pip Willcox Text and markup reviewed and edited 2008-02 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion SOME FEW AND SHORT Considerations On the present Distempers ; By J. P. THe tie which I have as an honest man , and the right which I have as a free man , of speaking what I think conducible to the weale publike , hath invited me in the crowd of others who blot paper , Commodare vocem , commodare operam , et si nihil profuturam forsan , conaturam tamen prodesse , and in the Exigents which now presse us , to commend to all men , specially to the wisdom of our great Councell , these few particulars . First , we having at present a Commonwealth , in which , as Tully said , Nihil mali est , nihil adversi , quod non boni metuunt improbi expectant , and matters being now reduc'd to that extream article of time , on which depends misery or prosperity , that they would be pleas'd with one eye to look up to His Majesties gracious inclinations , his readinesse for , may his desire of any honorable transaction , his pretentions to no greater latitude nor altitude of Prerogative , then what his Ancestors ( as he conceives ) enjoy'd actually or virtually ; with the other to look down to the ground they stand on , the depth of that precipice , on the skirt of which they ( and in them the Commonwealth ) are , to remember that of an Ancient ; — Scissura domestica turbat Rempopuli , titubatque foris quod dissidet intus . Though the Propositions be not in every circumstance as they wish , {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} , ( a thing expedient , and sutable , not to policie onely , but Christianity , Rom. 12. 11. ) especially to weigh well that of the same Cicero , Omnis pax bello civili utilior . Secondly , what probability or rather possibility there is of recovering Ireland , if the time to be imployed in the restitution of it be expended in the composing of our own distractions , the monies for that Countries relief be exhausted in the protraction of civil discord , and the persons who should quell Rebellion abroad , be ministers in a war at home here . And if that Kingdom should be lost , in what state this would be , in how desperate , how deplorable a condition , how unable long to defend it self . Thirdly , if the Votes of whatsoever they passe , though in a compleat body , without His Majesties ratification , be doubted whether efficacious and obligatory , how much rather then , when that body ( as at present ) is so mutilate and defective , as not to want the head , but so many Members too . What some Books have , Quod major pars curiae effecit , pro eo habetur ac si omnes egerint , I confesse is true , but ( among other restrictions it receives ) is to be understood of a full Assembly , or where who are not present , are absent Reipublicae causa , ( a thing held ever equivalent to appearance personall ) or by reason of some other casualties and emergents , not where there is a deliberate separation out of a dislike , a contrariety of sense , a Schisme ( as here too visibly ) and of persons in quality and number so considerable . Fourthly , what hath reference to Hull , that they would vouchsafe to have in minde , that the Axe is now laid to the root of the tree , ( a tree in the forest of this Iland not the least considerable : ) squeez'd and extorted things in the commerce of life are not welcome to us : what willingly we accept of , must come willingly ; how much better then to leave that place rather upon demand , then by violence , to make the restitution of it a work of election , then of necessity , especially having those inducements , His Majesties formerly being seized of it , and his present full pardon to all within it . Fiftly , for the Commissions of Array on His Majesties part , and the Militia on theirs , they being in the Theory ( in a well-ordered state ) inconsistent , but in the practique part ( the wretched condition we now are in ) to a Commonwealth utterly destructive , his Majestie ( at least what concerns the safety of the time present , the thing which in these imminent calamities chiefly is to be lookt at ) hath shewn a ready way to end that controversie , by declaring that he will lay his preparations of War aside , if they please to do so . If this be assented to , the only thing disputable in this main particular , is , who should first begin ; which , whether it become him or them to do , as for matter of fact to their will and wisdom , so for matter of 〈◊〉 is left to every prudent man to consider of . Sixthly , for the Navie ; if his Maiestie ( as I hope no Subject will doubt ) be Lord of the Seas circumjacent , it might follow ( and by no stretch'd inference ) that he is Lord also of the Ships that walk on them . By Lord here , is understood , not he who hath directum , but utile dominium , a power in publike occasions to command , and to dispose of them . By Ships , not onely his own , ( a thing before these rimes never controverted ) are meant , but those of any of his Subjects . Solo ( as some speak ) superficies cedit , a building , though of another mans , on my ground , passeth into my propriety . And though the solidity of earth being so contrary as it is to the instability of that other element , the authority may to some seem not so fitly alleadg'd , by way of Analogie however it is appliable , and by an argument a fortiori , we may make use of it ; for here no Subjects Ships , but the Kings own are treated of , the vessels not which any common stock built , but His private Treasury , and consequently seem no lesse his then the cloak he wears . Seventhly , what concerns these present preparations which carry a face of war with them , ( no man entertaining such purposes , but he sits down first , and consulteth whether he be able with 10 thousand men , to meet him that cometh against him with 20 thousand ) that they would likewise vouchsafe , seriously to consider whether competent and equall forces can be levied . Eighthly , If leavyed , what assurance there is that they will be as valiant in the field , as in the Pallace-Yard at Westminster ; as constant in a pitch'd Battell , as in the Streets of London . A smooth and eloquent Oration may convert them . Friends , Covntreymen , fellow-subjects , and such loving Compellations , may work strange changes in them ; so mutable things alwayes having been multitudes : reflecting on their inst●●● may stir up a quicker sense in them then before they had , make them enter into a neerer disquisition of the justnesse of that they stand for , and of the legality of that cause they appear in . Passages of these kindes are in Story frequent : And though none of these ; when they shall see their undoubted and undaunted Soveraign in the head of an adverse Army , shooting forth Rayes of Majesty , and thundering out a Durum est contra stimulos calcitrare , what man can promise that they will not be appall'd , dazled , blinded ? That their hearts will not fayl , and their weapons fall , both in one instant ? Their hands which were expected to fight , not be held up for pardon , and those knees in the strength of which it was thought they would have marched forward , will not tremble , not knock each other , and bow for mercy ? Ninthly , If God in his unscrutable providence , and uncontrollable counsells , should deliver this Kingdom up unto such extremities , how miserable that Warre would be , which would make us a spectacle to men and Angels , a prey to our selves at home , an obloquie to those about us ; and where who ever remains Victor , must of necessity want that honour which Antiquity did so triumph in , I mean , that which commonly it stil'd , Observatos cives . By the memory of that blessed peace maker who rests in Paradise , by seventeen continued yeers of his Sons Raign , spotted with no act of Tyranny , By the numerous and remarkable deliverances God hath heap'd upon this our Island , By the strength and vigour of the love they bear to the safety of their own persons , the tendernesse they justly have over those neer pledges , their wives and children ( who all in the common Fate will be involved inevitably ) suffer themselves , that honourable and great Councell , to be in some measure conjur'd to convert their designs of War into the delights of peace , not to cut asunder this Gordian knot of our distempers with the sword , but to undo it by milder counsells , and in stead of that universall desolation which like a Meteor hangs over us , to conserve us in our ancient possessions of security and of serenity . Lastly , For the intervall which hath divided his Majesty from them ( and in them from all of us ) so unhappily , so continuedly , though it have not been ( God be thanked ) like the gulf in the Gospel , so great , that they who would passe from hence thither , could not , nor they passe to us , that would come from thence ; yet during this distance of his , this resentment , we live in a kinde of twi-light , a cloudy and foggie clime of sadnesse and uncertainty , in which ( if in no other ) regard , whatsoever may induce him to draw neerer ; O let us embrace with cheerfulnes , & pursue with industry . His Majesty , like a Royall Dove , in a former return of his from the North parts of his Dominions brought us back an Olive-Branch , a token of peace with our Neighbours , and their reconcilement to us ; an assurance that the Torrent which had swollen high , was fallen and dryed up ; if readily and humbly he be complyed within his now-proposalls , his next return hither will bring better tidings , That the waters of his own displeasure are abated , a deluge more formidable then that other , to loyall and obedient hearts ( such as we all professe to have ) it being more dreadfull to suffer under the indignation of their own Soveraign , then to perish by the inundation of hostility ; this ( I say ) this onely Consideration ( like a parch'd soyl for rain ) should make us all thirst for his return to us : but there is more besides in it ; for had wee the warmth againe of that Sun to bask in , that we should have Gods blessing concomitant , we need not doubt . God in the riches of his goodnesse confer this on us , that after this sad rupture , both sides into one body united , may choke ( like a massy gobbet ) any adversary who shall attempt to swallow them , & as a peec'd arrow ( now made the stronger ) they may flye against a common enemy more effectually . Such is the weak , but hearty and most humble assistance , which in stead of Plate , Money and Horses , is presented , if not from the head of an able man , from the heart ( at least ) of an honest man , one whom no apprehensions of possible private losses ( regard had to the mediocrity of that condition wherein God hath placed him , hee having as little to part with as hath any man ) no by-respect of advancing his peculiar interest , nor adulation of Monarchique power hath mov'd in this way to speak himself , ( it having been still his course , and he resolving it shall ever be , Inter abruptam contumaciam et deforme obsequium iter pergere , and never by sinister & indirect means to gain either the least or the greatest preferments ) but a lively and deep sense of the common danger , a foul labouring with Anxiety from the just and too certain estimate of impendent ruine . If what he offers , as to the generall , so in particular to the consideration of that High Assembly seeme to be tendred by an obscure hand , he humbly desires them to remember that when a wrack is imminent even the poorest contribution of help is not deprived , and for the quenching of a beginning fire , even the vilest hands are not thought unuseful . If lamely & in an unpolished way it have fallen from him , it may by a favourable construction be esteemed therefore the more cordiall , and in that regard only find acceptance . Endeavours of speech in infants , and their inarticulate sounds , are commonly more operative , on the parent then the language of his elder children , stir up his affections more powerfully , vehemently , efficaciously , and leave an impression in him above all eloquence . And our devotions are most deare to God , most accepted , not when they are patient of words and admit vocalitie , but when the spirit makes intercession with grones that are unexpressable . The God of peace and concord make their meetings Apostolicall , that they may not only be in one place but with one accord , restore them in a blessed union to their Head , our Sovertig●e , the Vine whose branches they are , and in whom while they are fast rooted , the fruit of their consultations will be truly pleasant , joyne them ( and speedily ) to that corner Stone , to which while they are close cemented , not this , nor His other Dominions shall feare ( by Gods holy assistance ) forraine or Domestique Enemie . By the former as a wall of brasse , be impenetrable by the latter , as a continued rocke e unmineable . FINIS . Notes, typically marginal, from the original text Notes for div A90970e-30 Seneca . Prudent . Robur in genibus . Tacit.