Mr. Grimstons speech, in the High Court of Parliament. Grimston, Harbottle, Sir, 1603-1685. This text is an enriched version of the TCP digital transcription A85721 of text R9565 in the English Short Title Catalog (Thomason E198_5). Textual changes and metadata enrichments aim at making the text more computationally tractable, easier to read, and suitable for network-based collaborative curation by amateur and professional end users from many walks of life. The text has been tokenized and linguistically annotated with MorphAdorner. The annotation includes standard spellings that support the display of a text in a standardized format that preserves archaic forms ('loveth', 'seekest'). Textual changes aim at restoring the text the author or stationer meant to publish. This text has not been fully proofread Approx. 15 KB of XML-encoded text transcribed from 9 1-bit group-IV TIFF page images. EarlyPrint Project Evanston,IL, Notre Dame, IN, St. Louis, MO 2017 A85721 Wing G2038 Thomason E198_5 ESTC R9565 99873574 99873574 157480 This keyboarded and encoded edition of the work described above is co-owned by the institutions providing financial support to the Early English Books Online Text Creation Partnership. This Phase I text is available for reuse, according to the terms of Creative Commons 0 1.0 Universal . The text can be copied, modified, distributed and performed, even for commercial purposes, all without asking permission. Early English books online. (EEBO-TCP ; phase 1, no. A85721) Transcribed from: (Early English Books Online ; image set 157480) Images scanned from microfilm: (Thomason Tracts ; 35:E198[5]) Mr. Grimstons speech, in the High Court of Parliament. Grimston, Harbottle, Sir, 1603-1685. [4], 12, 14-16, [1] p. Printed for Thomas Walkely and are to be sold at his shop at the flying Horse neare Yorke House, London : 1641. With a preliminary blank leaf. Text is continuous despite pagination. Reproduction of the original in the British Library. eng Great Britain -- History -- Charles I, 1625-1649 -- Early works to 1800. Great Britain -- Politics and government -- 1625-1649 -- Early works to 1800. A85721 R9565 (Thomason E198_5). civilwar no Mr. Grimstons speech, in the High Court of Parliament.: Grimston, Harbottle, Sir 1641 2588 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 A This text has no known defects that were recorded as gap elements at the time of transcription. 2007-11 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2008-01 SPi Global Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2008-05 Emma (Leeson) Huber Sampled and proofread 2008-05 Emma (Leeson) Huber Text and markup reviewed and edited 2008-09 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion Mr. GRIMSTONS SPEECH , IN THE HIGH Court of PARLIAMENT . LONDON , Printed for Thomas Walkely and are to be sold at his shop at the flying Horse neare Yorke House . 1641. Mr. GRIMSTONS . SPEECH , In the High Court of PARLIAMENT . Mr. SPEAKER . THese Petitions which have bin now read , they are all Remonstrances of the generall and universall grievances and distempers that are now in the State and Government of the Church and Common-wealth , and they are not them alone : But his Majesties gratious Expressions the first day of Parliament , that calls me up to speake at this present , contrary to my owne Intentions . Mr. Speaker , his Majesty , who is the head of the body politique , and the Father of the Common-wealth , hath complained first , declaring his sensiblenesse of our sufferings , and amongst other things , hath put us in mind of our grievances , and hath freely left it to our selves ( for our redresse and repaire therein ) to begin and end , as we shall thinke fit . And this drawes me on with much cheerfulnesse and zeale to contribute my poore indeavours to so great a worke . And Mr. Speaker , I conceive it will not be altogether impertinent for your direction and guidance in that great place , which by the favour of his Majesty , and this House you now possesse , a little to recollect our selves in the remembrance of what was done the last Parliament , and where we ended . It will likewise be very considerable what hath bin done since that Parliament , and who they are that have bin the Authors and Causers of all our miseries and distractions , both before and sithence . Mr. Speaker , the last Parliament , as soone as the House was setled , a Subsidiary aid and supply was propounded , and many Arguments used to give the precedencie before all other matters and Considerations whatsoever . On the other side , a multitude of Complaints and Grievances of all sorts ; aswell concerning our Eternall as our Temporall estates were presented and put in the other ballance : The wisedome of that great Councell waighing both indifferently , and looking not onely upon the dangers then threatned from SCOTLAND ( which are now upon us ) but likewise taking into their consideration the Condition and Constitution of the present government here at home , concluded that they were in no capacity to give , unlesse their grievances were first redressed and removed . For Mr. Speaker , it then was , and still is , most manifest and apparent , that by some judgements lately obtained in Court of Justice , and by some new wayes of Government lately started up amongst us ; the Law of property is so much shaken , that no man can say he is master of any thing : But all that we have , we hold as Tenants by courtesie , and at will , and may be stripped of it at pleasure . Yet Mr. Speaker , desirous to give his Majesty all possible satisfaction and contentment , aswell in the manner of supply for expedition , as in the substance and matter of it , we confined and limitted our selves but to three particulars onely , and to such matters as properly and naturally should have reference and relation to those 3. heads . 1. The first was the priviledges of Parliament . 2. The second mattees of Religion . 3. The third , the propriety of our goods and Estates . And we began with the first , as the great Arke , in which the other two , Religion and property are included and preserved . Mr. Speaker , the violations complained of the last Parliament , touching our priviledges , were of two sorts ; either such as had bin done out of Parliament . Concerning the violations of the first sort , it was resolved by vote , that the Speaker refusing to put a question , being thereunto required by the House . Or to adjourne the house upon any command whatsoever , without the consent and approbation of the House it selfe ; were breaches and violations that highly impeached our priviledges . And having passed the vote , J conceive it were fit we should now proceed a little further , and consider of a way how to be repaired against them that have beene the violators : For Execution does animare Legem . The putting of an old Law in Execution , you know Mr. Speaker , does oftentimes doe more good then the making of a new one . As concerning the violations of the other sort , done out of Parliament in Courts of Justice , and at the Counsell board , where neither our persons nor our proceeding ought to have bin controlled or medled withall ; And as concerning matters of Religion , and the property of our goods and estates , there were divers things then likewise agreed upon by vote , whereupon a conference was desired to have beene had with the Lords : But what interjections and rubs we met withall by the way , and how the Lords countervoted the precedency of our grievances . And how our Speaker was taken away from amongst vs , and what an vnhappy conclusion we had at the last . The remembrance of it were a subject too sad to begin another Parliament withall . Therefore Mr. > Speaker , I shall passe from what was done the last Parliament and come to what hath beene done since that Parliament ended . Mr Speaker , there are some worthy Gentlemen now of this house that were members of the last Parliament , that carried themselves in the matters and businesses then and there agitated and debated , with great Wisedome and vnexampled moderation . But what had they at last for all their paines in attending the publique strince of the Common-wealth , As soone as ever the Parliament was ended , their studies and pockets were searched as if they had beene Fellones and Traytors , and they committed to severall Goales with an intention J am confident of their vtter ruine and destruction , had they not fore-seene a danger approaching ; For Mr. Speaker , if J be truely informed an information was drawne , or at least , directions given for the drawing of it , against them in the Starre-Chamber . Mr. Speaker , there hath beene since the last Parliament a Synod , and in that Synod a new Oath hath beene made and framed , and enjoyned to be taken . Mr. Speaker , they might as well have made a new Law , and enjoyned the execution of that , as enjoyned and vrged the taking of the other , not being established by Act of Parliament and in point of mischiefe , the safety of the Common-wealth , and the freedome and liberties of the Subject are more concerned in the doing of the one then if they had done the other . The next exception J shall take to it , is to the matter contained in the oath it selfe . Mr. Speaker , they would have us at the very first dash sweare in a damnable Heresie , that matters necessary to salvation are contained in the Discipline of our Church . Whereas Mr. Speaker , it hath ever bin the tenet of our Church , that all things necessary to salvation are comprehended and contained in the Doctrine of our Church onely ; And that hath alwaies been vsed as an Argument vntill this very present , against Antidisciplinarians , to stop their mouthes withall ; And therefore that for that reason they might with the lesse regret and offence conforme and submit themselves to the Discipline of our Church . And Mr. Speaker , for prevention in case the Wisedome of the state in this great Counsell , should at any time think fit to alter any thing in the government of our Church , they would anticipate and forestall our judgements , by making vs sweare before-hand , that we would never give our consent to any alteration . Nay Mr. Speaker , they goe a little further , for they would have vs sweare that the government of the Church by Archbishops , Bishops , Deanes , Archdeacons , &c. is Iure divino , Their words are , as of right it ought to stand ; Whereas Mr. Speaker , we meet not with the name of an Archbishop , or a Deane , or an Archdeacon in all the new Testament ; And whatsoever may be said of the Function of Bishops it is one thing : But for their Jurisdiction it is meerely Humana institutione , and they must thanke the King for it . As for their grosse , absurd , &c. wherein they would have men sweare they know neither what , nor how many fathome deepe : There is neither Divinity nor charity in it , and yet they would put that upon vs . Mr. Speaker , what they meant and intended by this new Oath , and their booke of Canons , and their booke of Articles , which they would have our Church-wardens sworne unto , to enquire of , and to present thereupon , J must confesse I know not , unlesse they had a purpose therein to blow up the Protestant Religion and all the faithfull professors of it , and to advance their Hierarchie a step higher which I suppose wee all feare is high enough already . Mr. Speaker , they have likewise in this Synod granted a benevolence , but the nature of the things agrees not with the name , for in plaine English it is sixe Subsidies to be paid by the Clergie in sixe yeares : And the penalty they have imposed upon the refusers , for non payment , is to be deprived of their Functions , to be stripped of their free-hold , and to be excommunicated , and this Act of their Synod is not published amongst their Canons , for which they might have some colourable seeming authority : But it comes out , in a Booke alone by it selfe in the Latine tongue , supposing as I conceive that Lay-men are as ignorant as they would have them ; And thus they thinke they dance in a Net And as in this , so in most of their new Canons if they be throughly considered , any Judicious man may easily discerne and perceive , that they doe therein like Water-men that looke one way and rowe another , they pretend one thing but intend nothing lesse ; And certainly Mr. Speaker in this they have flowne a high pitch ; For a Synod called together upon pretence of reconciling and setling Controversies and matters in Religion to take upon them the boldnesse thus out of Parliament to grant Subsidies and to meddle with mens freeholds , I dare say the like was never heard of before , and they that durst doe this will doe worse if the current of their raging Tyranny be not stopped in time . Who are they ( Mr. Speaker ) that have countenanced and cherished Popery and Arminianisme to that growth and heigth it is now come to , in this Kingdome ? Who are they ( Mr. Speaker ) that have given incouragement to those that have boldly preached those damnable Heresies in our Pulpits . Who are they ( Mr. Speaker ) that have given authority and licence to them that have published those Heresies in print ? Who are they ( Mr. Speaker , ) that of late dayes have beene advanced to any dignity or preferment in the Church , but such as have beene notoriously suspitious , in their Disciplines , corrupt in their Doctrines , and for the most part , vitious in their lives ? And who are they ( Mr. Speaker ) that have overthrowne our two great Charters Magna Charta , and Charta de Forresta ? What imposition hath bin laid down or what Monopolie hath bin damned in any Court of Justice since the last Parliament . Hath not ship-money , Coale and conduct money , and money for other military charges , bin collected and leavied , with as great violence as ever they were , in violation of our liberties , confirmed unto us in our Petition of Right ; notwithstanding all our supplications and complaints the last Parliament . And who are they Mr. Speaker , that have caused all those dangerous Convulsions , and all the desperate unnaturall bloudy distempers , that are now in our body politique ? Mr. Speaker , J will tell you a passage : J heard from a Judge in the Kings-Bench . There was a poore man committed by the Lords , for refusing to submit unto a project , and having attended a long time at the Kings-Bench barre , upon his Habeas Corpus ; and at last pressing very earnestly to be bailed . The Judge said to the rest of his brethren , come Brothers ( said he ) let us baile him , for they begin to say in the Towne , that the Judges have overthrowne the Law , and the Bishops the Gospell . Mr. Speaker , I would not be misunderstood in what J have said ; for rhere are some of both , functions and professions , that J highly honour & reverence in my heart , for their wisedomes and integrities . But Mr. Speaker , J may say it ; for I am sure we have all felt it , that there are some of both functions and professions , that have bin the Authors and causers of all the Miseries , Ruines , and Calamities that are now upon us . Mr. Speaker , This is the Age ; This is the Age ( Mr. Speaker ) that hath produced and brought forth Achitophells , Hammans Woolsies , Empsons , and Dudlies , Tricilians , and Belknapps Vipers and Monsters of all sorts . And J doubt not , but when his Majesty shall be truely informed of such matters , as wee are able to charge them withall ; we shall have the same Justice against these , which heretofore hath been against their Predecessours , in whose wicked steps they have trodden . And therefore Mr. Speaker , to put our selves into a way for our redresse and reliefe , J conceive it were fit that a Committee might be named to take these Petitions , that have now beene read , and all others of the like nature into their considerations , to the end , that the parties grieved , may have just repaire for their grievances ; and that out of them , Lawes may be contrived , and framed for the preventing of the like mischiefes , for the future . FJNJS .