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FInding the Town in a Tumult , the Sea before me and the Enemy behind me , I took a Boat and with much difficulty Escaped — Le'Strang's Apology . p. 4. This a Specimen of the Gentlemans Valor , the Wits are seldom Celebrated for Hero's , he defies his Enemy you see with his Posteriors and running away is , as Familiar with him , as his own Fiddle or Madam Bs. Base-viol . 2. A Citizens Skul is but a thing to try the temper of a Soldiers Sword upon , Ibidem . p. 48. This is spoken out of Pure Affection to the Citizens , and shews their Pates are good for something else , besides Petitioning . A Popish Successor will confirm the truth of this Aphorism . 3. The Very mention of a Parliament Inrages them , and there is reason for it , their Heads are forfeited , and if the Law lives , they must Perish : But all this while , are not we in a good Condition , when the Transgressors of the Law , must be the Judges of it , Ibidem . p. 51. The Devil himself sometimes speaks truth , though , against his Will. But the Private Cabal will con him no thanks for this Description . 4. We do further Engage in the presence of Almighty God , that if any Person or Persons impose upon us any other Government , Inconsistent with or destructive of Parliaments , we will prosecute him or them as Betrayers of the Peoples Rights , and Subverters of the Fundamental Laws of the English Nation , Ibidem . p. 52. Is not this to Justifie an Association : But have the People indeed any such Rights and Fundamental Laws , Sir Poll , we thank you . And resolve Sixteen more of your Dialogues shall perswade us to part with them to any such Tories as you talk of , who would Impose Devillish Popery and French Slavery upon the Free-born Protestant People of England . 5. Of Men will be Damn'd , they had better Dam Rich than Poor , and keep their Lacquies and their Whores , and at last go to Hell in Triumph , Ibidem . p. 93. Our Author has endeavored to put this wholsom Doctrine in Practice , and Tugg'd hard at the Quill this many a fair day for a Secretaries place , or some other Court-Preferment . And 't is no small grief to him , that after all , he should be disappointed and go to Old Nick , a Beggar . 6. As there 's no Fool to the old one , so there 's no Knave to the old one I bidem , p. 95. Undoubtedly this Oracle is pronounced from Experience , for the Author himself is got to his grand Climacterick . 7. Friendless abroad and Comfortless at home , as Guilty and as Desperate as Cain , Ibidem p. 47. This is an abrupt part of a Prophesie and you must send to some Holy-Road , for an Interpretation . 8. That there are Rogues , there is no question , but yet I should be loath to pass for one , Ibidem , p. the last . Can you blame our Author therefore for protesting before the King and Councel , and Swaggering since in Print , that he is no Papist , nor any more concerned in the Plot , than the Pope of Rome . 9. The Independents Murthered Charles Stuart , but the Presbyterians Killed the King ; State Divinity Printed 1661. The Presbyterians brought him to the Block , the Independents Murthered him ; the Presbyterians held him by the Hair , whilst the Independents Cut off his Head. The Presbyterians bound and prostituted the Virgin , and the Independents were the Ravishers : Relapsed Apostate , p. 120. Printed 1661. These are very Edifying sayings which have been worn threadbare in the Pulpit , and made two Hundred and Fifty little Parsons pass in spight of Nature and Truth at once both for Wits and Loyalists . 10. Bless us from a Gun ! State Divinity , p. 22. So say I too ; and all its Paper-Bullets . But how the Squire will answer this rash Ejaculation to his Trusty Friend Harry is left to be determined by the Criticks Spiritual and Temporal at Sam 's . 11. Are not Knaves and Fools , the greatest part of the World ? Ibidem , p. 29. Can ye blame the Squire then , for Herding with the Biggest Party ! 12. There are some People believe , that I write for an Halter and have a mind to save my longing , Ibidem , p. 44. The Laborer is worthy of his Hire , and no doubt , but in due time , the Gentleman may have both his Desires and Deserts in this particular . 13. Heark ye Gentlemen ! Between Jest and Earnest I have away of Fooling , will go near to put your Gravities out of Countenance ; Relapsed Apostate in the Introduction . This looks like the very Syre of Heraclitus Ridens . And indeed for Religion in Jest and Fooling in Earnest , there 's not a Merry-Andrew in all the Town can Match his ( late ) Worship . 14. What Peace can they expect from others that are at War within themselves , whose very thoughts are Whips , and their own Consciences their own Tormentors ? Ibidem , p. 4. This may be one main Reason why our Dog-Towzer , that has been a Pestilent Conney-catcher in his time , is always Snarling and Barking , and can never lye quiet in his Kennel . 15. Betwixt Hanging and Transplanting all Men of different Opinions there must needs ensue a Pleasant State of Concord . Ibidem , p. 116. Yet this is that very Pleasant State , this Worthy Author if he had but as much Power as Malice , would reduce us to . 16. A furious Bussle the Presbyterians make with the Silly People for fear of Popery , Ibid p. 140. This was a Preparatory Lullaby , that Popery might catch us Napping and none dare speak against it for fear of being stigmatized for Presbyterians . 17. 'T is not every Bodies Lot to Live like a Knave and Dye like an Honest Man , A Whip , A Whip , in the Preface . Is Saul also amongst the Prophets ? sure the Man is turn'd Fortune-teller and presages his own Destiny . 18. I defie Malice it self to charge me with any sort of Malevolence toward the Church or State , which even a Packt Jury would dare to give credit to . Further Discovery . p. 3. This you are bound to believe on pain of Curse Canonical ; for so choice was his Innocence , that he durst not trust it in the hands of the Highest and most Honorable C●urt in the Nation , but fled and sneakingly sent his Wife to pretend he durst not appear for fear of Man-takers and Bumbailies , How A Licenser , and a Patentee and a Gazetter , and a Justice , and the Devil and all , and yet want a Protection for the Shoulder ? This 't is to Play all Night at Lantreloe with Rooking Ladies . 19. I defie any Man to produce another Gentleman in the Kings Dominions under my Circumstances , that hath Suffered so many Illegal , Arbitrary and mean Injustices from any of the Abusers of the Kings Bounty , insomuch that after One and Thirty Years Faithful Service to the Crown , the Bread hath been taken out of my Mouth , and in a large proportion Shared amongst some of those very People that pursued the late King to the Block-English-mans Birth-Right , p. 14. Alas poor Towzer ! he can Open you see against Majesty upon occasion and upbraid the King with his Services , and in effect charge him with Ingratitude and Injustice ; yet still the Gentleman may vaunt his Loyalty , though 't is not the Cause , but the Crust he values . 20. You may as well bring Heaven and Hell together as to Reconcile those People , call'd Eanaticks or Non-conformists and Dessenters to any Terms of Piety or Civil Order , Further Discov . p. 18. What follows then , but you must Cut their Throats or Knock out their Brains to rid the World of such Incorrigible Hereticks , as your good Friends in Ireland did in the famous 41. This you would be at , but Curst Cows , God be thanked , have short Horns . 21. Religion is a Spiritual Notion , out of the reach of Violence , and neither to be Invaded , nor kept out by Force , Ibidem . p. 20. Why then need the Government trouble it self with making Laws either to exclude Popery or suppress Presbytery . 22. Who knows not , that Interest Governs the World , and that for Reasons best known to themselves , he that is a Protestant in his Heart , may be induced rather to appear a Papist ; and the other , though a Papist in his Heart , may find it his Interest yet to seem a Protestant , Ibidem , p. 30. The first part of this is unsupposable , because Protestants can have no Dispensations to help them out , but the latter clause is a very truth and 't is Forty to one , but this Author is an instance of it . 23. Confound us , if we do not agree and Resolve to serve God and Honor the King , Ibidem . p. 47. Let the World Renounce me , If I am less Innocent than I say I am or less dutiful , then I have been , State Divinity , p. 61. I am ( by my hopes of Heaven ) a true Son of the Church of England , Furth . Disc . p. 2. All this is true by the Faith of a poor Gentleman , that has worn his Doublet out at the Elboes in His Majesties Service , Reformed Catholick , p. 3. By the Everliving God , it is false as if he swore , I had come down the Chimney on a Broomstick , Le Strange , no Papist . Swearing is so natural to this Worshipful Son of the Church , that you see , he cannot forbear it in Print . But who knows not the Proverb — he that will Swear , will lye . 24. We find the Court dangerously thronged with Parasites , Knaves represented to the King for Honest Men , and Honest Men for Villains . Caveat for Caveliers , p. 12. Had any Body else said half so much , it had been an Arraignment of the Government , and at least three quarters Treason , but this thinks , he has License to abuse either Court , Parliament , City , Country , or the Protestant Religion , whenever the humor takes him , or H. B. for satisfaction of old Scores calls upon him for a Pamphlet . Some Additional Reasons to prove Roger Le Strange , No Papist . First , because he says and swears he is none in this Juncture , when 't is very much his Interest to be thought not to be so . Though formerly when the Papal Stream ran high he acknowledged ( as 't is attested by Unbiassed proof ) that he was of that Church , whereof the Pope was Head. 2. Because a Man that never practised any serious Acts of Religion in his Life , ought rather to be accounted an Atheist , than a Papist . 3. Because amongst all the Swarms of his sticht Tomes and six-penny Volumes , he never wrote one line against Popery , though he has translated Father Bona the Jesuit , to render that party more Acceptable for their Devotions , but on all occasions and indeed without any , has claw'd off Protestants and endeavored to Widen the differences between them , as heartily as either Philanax , or Goddin , or Serjeant could do for their Guts . 4. Because ever since the Discovery of the Popish Plot , he has endeavored to Ridicule all the Evidence , and to shamm it upon the Presbyterians , and divert the chase against Papists , and smooth the way for the Meal-tub-Plot and Fitz Harrises &c. Lastly , Because that after all this Bussle and so many charges against him , and the numerous trifling Apologies , he has pestered the town with . He never yet durst pretend or offer the least-shadow of Proof . That for 18 long years together viz. between the year 1660 & 1678. he ever did frequent his Parish Church , according to Law or received the Sacrament there , as the Rubrick requires , now if he never ( ordinarily ) came at any Protestant Church , nor Communicated in its Sacraments in so many years , ( and if he had , no doubt , but he would have told us of it ) does it not roundly follow , that he is a notable true dutiful Son of the Church Establish't , very fit to be her Champion , and to upbraid those that agree in her Doctrin , and often joyn in her Communion ? But since the Plot broke out and he was more violently suspected , and charged for a Papist , he has ( as he pretends ) gone to Church sometimes and taken the Sacrament in Holland , and is not this , ( though , for 18 years before he made no Conscience on 't ) enough to prove him a sound Church man and no Papist ? Yes , verily , and therefore be satisfyed , for that 's all the Substantial Reason that ( after all his Fooling ) you are ever like to get from him . LONDON , Printed for Langley Curtis on Ludgate-hill . 1681. FINIS .