The history of Whiggism, or, The Whiggish-plots, principles, and practices (mining and countermining the Tory-plots and principles) in the reign of King Charles the First, during the conduct of affaires, under the influence of the three great minions and favourites : Buckingham, Laud, and Strafford, and the sad forre-runners and prologues to that fatal-year (to England and Ireland) 41 : wherein (as in a mirrour) is shown the face of the late (we do not say the present) times. Hickeringill, Edmund, 1631-1708. 1682 Approx. 255 KB of XML-encoded text transcribed from 27 1-bit group-IV TIFF page images. Text Creation Partnership, Ann Arbor, MI ; Oxford (UK) : 2009-10 (EEBO-TCP Phase 1). A70223 Wing H1809 Wing H1825C ESTC R12704 12846180 ocm 12846180 94429 This keyboarded and encoded edition of the work described above is co-owned by the institutions providing financial support to the Early English Books Online Text Creation Partnership. 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Copies of the texts have been issued variously as SGML (TCP schema; ASCII text with mnemonic sdata character entities); displayable XML (TCP schema; characters represented either as UTF-8 Unicode or text strings within braces); or lossless XML (TEI P5, characters represented either as UTF-8 Unicode or TEI g elements). Keying and markup guidelines are available at the Text Creation Partnership web site . eng Great Britain -- History -- Charles I, 1625-1649. Great Britain -- Politics and government -- 1625-1649. 2008-09 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2008-11 SPi Global Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2008-12 Megan Marion Sampled and proofread 2008-12 Megan Marion Text and markup reviewed and edited 2009-02 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion THE SECOND PART OF THE History of Whiggisme , OR THE Whiggish-PLOTS PRINCIPLES and PRACTICES ( Mining and Countermining THE TORY-PLOTS , PRINCIPLES and PRACTICES ) In REIGN of King CHARLES I. TORY . ONce more , well met Mr. Tantivee , and honest Whigg : Tantivee . Whigg . We come on purpose to hear the Continuation of your History of Whiggisme ; Tory. I neither am able ( nor do I pretend ) to tell you any thing but what is to be found in Chronicles , Histories , and at large already in Print . Tant . Ay , but I have not Money to buy them , nor Leisure to read large Volumes , give us onely an Abridgment out of those vaster Collections , in relation only to the Whiggisme of them . Tory. With all my heart ; where left I off ? Tant . At Mr. Moor's Release and Discharge by his Gracious Majesty Charles 1. and the Imprisonment and Release of the Earl of Arundel . Tory. Oh! 'T is Right . Whigg . But was not that part of the Kings Answer about the Imprisonment of the Earl of Arundel ( namely — My Lords , By this I do not mean to shew the Power of a King , by diminishing your Priviledges ; ) ill resented by the House of Lords ? Tory. It plainly Intimated that the King thought He had such a Power , or some ( about him ) made him believe he had such a Power of a King to Diminish their Priviledges , but he did not mean to show it . Tant . No , the more Gracious King He. Tory. However , the House of Lords were so Allarum'd at the Expression , that lest they should happen to have a King that was less Gracious or of a worse Meaning , they would not meddle with any Business 'till they had secured as well as claim'd their Priviledges , by another Tenure than what was meerly Arbitrary , Ad libitum Regis , and therefore Adjourn'd in Disgust , resolving unanimously to take nothing into Consideration , 'till they had Contrived how their Priviledges might be Secur'd to Posterity ; which being perceiv'd , the Earl of Arundel ( as you have heard ) was Releas't to them , for which he was thankfull . Tant . Ay , that was right Tory-like , and most Loyally done ; some Whiggs would not so Religiously have Kist the Rod that whips them . Whigg . 'T is somewhat against the Grain of Humanity , to fawn , Spaniel-like , upon the Hand that beats them . Tant . Some men are so Loyal as to make a Legg at every Box of the Ear ; Who may say to a King what dost thou ? Whigg . Misapply'd and Misconstru'd Scriptures make up a Tantivee , and makes a man be a Tantivee . Tant . Why ? Is not the King's Will a Law ? Whigg . In France they say , and in Turkey , not in England ; for so the Barons of England told the two Cardinals ( whom the Pope sent to Reconcile the Differences betwixt King and People , about Magna Charta , Liberties and Prerogative ) That , there were many Worthy and Learned men in the Kingdom , whose Council they would use and not Strangers , who knew not the cause of their Commotion , ( in the Reign of K. Edward 2. ) Tory. No , I must confess , that Forreigners ( unacquainted with the Fundamental Constitution of our Government and Laws ) are no Competent Judges of the lawfulness or unlawfulness of Contests betwixt King and People . Whigg . Ay , the English were alwayes tender of their Liberties . Tant . But if English Kings did Invade their Liberties , they used no Remedy ( I hope ) but Prayers and Tears . Whigg . And Bows and Arrows , and long Swords , until the Kings were Contented to Rule them according to their Oath , and the Law of the Land. Tant . Ay , Perhaps when they happened to have some easie , weak , timerous and condescending King. Whigg . No , In such a juncture , they were alwayes the calmer , but grew rough , raging , high and boysterous , the more vehement , strong and tempestuous their Kings were ; as for Instance , in Edw. 1. another Saul , for he was higher and taller than ordinary men by the Head and Shoulders , and as Tyrannical too as King Saul was : He at one time ( at the Instigation of William Marchian , then Lord Treasurer ) fetch 't all the Riches out of the Churches and Religious Houses , and put it into his own Exchequer ; Loans , Benevolences , the Writ of Trailbaston , great Fines were used by him ; in the Seventeenth Year of his Reign he Fined all his Judges ( pretending ) for Corruption , the least of them one thousand Marks , an immense Summe in those dayes ; but some of them two thousand , some three thousand , some four thousand , some six thousand , and the Chief Justice ( Sir Ralph de Hengham ) seven thousand Marks ; the Chief Baron ( Sir Adam Stratton ) four and thirty thousand Marks ; but from Thomas Wayland all his Goods and whole Estate Confiscate , and himself Banish't ; and just so he used the Jews , which were then ( in England ) very rich and very numerous : 'T is said of K. Hen. 8. that he never Spared Man in his Anger , nor Woman in his Lust ; but King Edw. 1. was as resolv'd as he , as Couragious and Stout ( leaving the Marks of his personal Valour , the Trophies of his Victories in the Holy-land before he was King ) but he could Disguise his furious Resentments , and Adjourn Revenge seven and seven Years , 'till he could safely Execute it . Tant . Safely ! why who should or durst say to that most Couragious and Victorious King , ( that thrice Conquer'd Scotland , France and Wales , ) What dost thou ? Whigg . His own People and Subjects forc't him to reason , and to Rule them according to Law , his Oath , and Magna Charta ; the Parliament-men came to his Parliament Attended with Armed men , very numerous at Stamford , 28 Edw. 1. to make him fulfill and Execute the Charter of the Forrest ; says Walsingham and Knighton two Famous Historians of those times , Rex Angliae sub his diebus Parliamentum tenuit Stamford , ad quod convenerunt Comites & Barones cum equis & armis , co prout dicebatur proposito , ut Executionem Chartae de Foresta hactenùs dilatam extorquerent ( mind that ) ad plenum . Tant . Ay , but how did the Stout King Edward Treat these Armed Petitioners ? Whigg . They ask't nothing but what the Laws and his own Oath ought to have Compelled him unto , and the King yielded to their Requests ; Rex autem eorum Instantiam & Importunitatem attendens , eorum voluntati in omnibus condescendit ; ( Knighton sayes ) De quâ re Rex Integrè & plenè eorum voluntatem Implevit ad vota ; in which matter the King fully and wholly granted their Desires to their Wishes . Tant . It was very civilly done of him . Whigg . It was wisely and honestly done , and as his Coronation Oath , Equity , Reason , Conscience and the Laws , ( from none of which English Kings pretend to be exempt ) did adjure him , and Constrain him ; and they are devillish Councellors , and the Kings worst Enemies and Traitors that perswade him to act contrary to Law : Power is high enough without being wanton , and lasts longest when it is not Stretcht to the height , or Over-stretcht , 't is a wonder that a thing so uneasie should please . Tory. Ambition and Covetousness know no bounds , and I have read King Edward got the Pope to set him free from the obligation of his Coronation Oath and Magna Charta . Tant . But did the Pope absolve him and let him loose and free from his Oath and the Laws ? Tory. Yes , he did ; for the Pope was a Native of Burdeaux , Born in King Edward's Domnions , but yet he would not acquit him of his Oath and Obligation to his Subjects and his own Conscience , 'till the King sent his Holiship all manner of Vessels belonging to a Chamber , made of pure Gold , and then the Pope untied the King from the Covenant made with his Subjects concerning their Charters , Confirmed unto them by his last three Acts of Parliament . Tant . Has the Pope power to do these things ? Whigg . Yes , Fools think so , and Knaves would perswade others to think so ; the King and the Pope got by it , but the poor English Subjects paid for all . Tant . But did not the King pay part of the Reckoning ? Whigg . No doubt on 't , King Edward 1. made a shift with much Bickering to rub through , and come to his Grave in Peace , dying on his fair Death ; but his Son Edw. 2. that followed his Fathers steps when he could or durst , had not the Wit , or else not the Luck to manage the Feat so well ; ( poor Rehoboam ! ) for he was Deposed by the Parliament , or rather was perswaded to Depose himself , lest his Son also should be Excluded from the Crown : ( for so they threatned , and to make a King of another Race ) Thus he lost his Kingdom , no Blow struck , no Battel Fought , done forcibly and yet without force , violently and yet with Consent . Tant . Then surely he had first lost the Hearts of his People . Whigg . You may be assured of it , for ( at first ) his Subjects refused to suffer him to be Crowned , unless he would remove Gaveston from the Court and Kingdom , which dampt King Edward's Spirit , especially many of his great Friends being then at Court witnesses of his Disgrace , as Charles of Valois the Queens Unkle , and Brother to her Father ( Philip the Fair ) the French King , the Dukes of Brittain and Brabant , the Count of Luxemburg , who was afterwards Emperour , the Duke of Savoy , the Dutchesses of Brabant and Artois , with many other Princes and great Ladies , so that the King solemnly Swore he would do what they desired in the next Parliament , so they would be quiet now ; and thereupon the Coronation went on . Tant . Could not so many Forreign Princes and so powerful , Encourage the King to repel ( with force ) his Subjects Insolence . Whigg . Insolence ? Oh Brave Tantivee ! What would have become of thee if thou hadst liv'd in these dayes to have an answer in Parliament for your Tantivee-principles , so Discrepant from , and Inconsistent with our English-frame , Constitution and Fundamental Laws ? Tant . Why ? were Parliaments so Malapert in those dayes ? Whigg . Malapert ? Hey day ! what again in your Tantivee-strain , you have got the Language of some late Addressers , that take upon them to Judge the highest Court and Council of the Kingdom , the Parliament . Tant . In your Opinion ( you mean ) the Highest Council . Whigg . Dare you say to the contrary , whatever you think ? Tant . I durst , if I were sure never to live to see another Parliament . Whigg . Ay , thou art a good one , but the Parliament ( as soon as they met ) drew Articles of their Grievances , which , though seeming Harsh to the King , yet for avoiding further Inconvenience , he yielded unto them . Tant . Inconvenience ? What Inconvenience ? they were Subjects and Christians in those dayes , and had no weapons but prayers and tears , which can bring no great Inconvenience , if a man resolve to be hard-hearted . Whig . No , thou ( I believe ) art Prayer-proof ; but King Edward 2. remembred well , that in his stout Fathers time , the Parliament met at London , Octob. 10. Non tamen nudi , not naked and unarm'd , but ( immò cum quingentis equis armatis & multitudine magnâ peditum Electorum , ) with five hundred Horse , and a vast number of choice Foot : Induxerunt etiam cives Londoniarum , ut pro recuperandis libertatibus secum starent ; The Citizens of London were brought to stand up with them , for the recovery of their Charters and Liberties : Comitibus itaque & Baronibus pariter conglobatis & confederatis , necnon majoritate populi eis inclinante ; several Lords and Barons confederating and leaguing solemnly together , with the majority of the common-people , Inclining to their side . Tant . What ? against the King ? Whig . No , for the Ling , against evil Councellors that seduc'd the King against his Oath , his Conscience , Religion and Law : And the Historian Hen. Knighton gives the reason of this general Confederacy — quia communem profectum & utilitatem amplectebatur , communes diligebant eos fortiter ; because the Conlederates or Covenanters stood for the common benefit and common-weal , and the Laws , therefore the People lov'd them mightily ; and voluntarily accompanyed their Parliament-men to London with horse and Arms at their own charge : Nay , 't is a wonder that any man that had an English heart in his Belly could be a fawning Spaniel-like Tantivee ; some French Bastard sure . Tant . But , what said the King to his armed Parliamentarians ? Whig . Said ? he did ( instead of saying any thing ) his duty , and confirmed their Charters and Liberties , so often confirmed and so often wickedly and illegally broken and encroach't upon : but King Edward 1. was loath to confirm their Charters , except with this clause — salvo Jure Coronae nostrae ; saving the Rights of our Crown : But , the People would not , by any means , admit that saving — and Exception ; so that the King confirm'd them as formerly ; as K. Charles 1. after a long Tugg in the House of Lords consented to the Petition of Right , without the saving ; or leaving intire that Sovereign power wherewith , &c. Whereupon , — ( sayes Mr. Noy ) To adde a saving is not safe : And sayes Mr. Alford — Let us look into the Records , and see what they are ; what is Sovereign power ? Bodin saith , That is free from any condition , by this we shall acknowledge a Regal as well as a Legal Power ; let us give that to the King that the Law gives him and no more : Tory. There spoke a Whigg . Whigg . True : ( so Mr. Pym added ) I know how to adde Sovereign to his Person but not to his Power : Also , We cannot leave to him a sovereign power : Also , We never were possessed of it : Tory. Our King ( God bless him ) does not pretend to absolute and arbitrary Power . Whig . Sovereign power cannot be invested in any thing that is not Omnipotent . And the great Oracle of the Law added , that the saving , or leaving intire the sovereign Power , &c. will overthrow all our Petition of Right ; It trenches to all the Parts of it ; It flyes at Loans , and at the Oath , and at Imprisonment and Billeting of Souldiers , This turns all about again . I know that Prerogative is part of the Law , but Sovereign Power is no Parliamentary word : In my opinion , it weakens Magna Charta and all our Statutes , for they are absolute without any saving of Sovereign Power ; take we heed what we yield unto : Magna Charta is such a fellow that he will have no Soveraign : I wonder this Soveraign was not in Magna Charta or the confirmations of it ; If we grant this , by Implication we give a Soveraign power above all these Laws , ( mind that ; for all Power and Liberties and Prerogatives are bounded and limited by the Laws , and though they be great as the Sea , yet have their bounds , the Law saying , Hitherto shalt thou go , and no further , and here shall thy proud Waves be stay'd ; no Prerogative is infinite in England , nor any power omnipotent , ( except that of God alone ) the Law limits and bounds us all from the greatest to the least . ) And therefore Sir Eward Cook goes on , telling the House ; That Power in Law is taken for a power with force ; The Sheriff shall take the power of the County ; what it means here , God only knows : It is repugnant to our Petition ( that is , the King shall not Billet Souldiers , raise Money by Privy Seals , Loans , Imprison without cause in Law shewn , &c. saving by his Soveraign Power : ) our Petition is a Petition of Right , grounded on Acts of Parliament : Our Predecessors would never endure a Salvo Jure suo , no more than the Kings of Old could endure for the Church , Salvo Honore Dei & Ecclesiae ; we must not admit of it , and to qualifie it , is impossible : Let us hold our Priviledges according to the Law ; that Power that is above this , it is not sit for the King and People to have it disputed further . Tant . The Oath of Allegiance binds us all to maintain the Kings Prerogative . Whigg . No doubt on 't ; and let it be for ever Sacred , let no Prophane Hand or Tongue touch it ; no , nor so much as think upon it Irreverently , both it and the Peoples Liberties ( as aforesaid ) are vast and great ; but they are not Infinite , they have their known Bounds and ancient Land-marks , and Cursed is that evil Councellor that makes such a Stir to Encroach or Remove them , extend them or Stretch them , such deserve to Stretch for it ; For 't is certain that there is no Soveraign Power or Prerogative wherewith any King of England hath been intrusted either by God or Man , but what is for Edification , not for Destruction ; for the Weal of his People , and for their Protection , Safety and Happiness . Tant . Our Gracious Soveraign ( in his late Declarations ) pretends to no other Prerogative but what is legal . Whigg . All the better for him and us , his Royal Father ( of Gracious Memory ) seem'd to Disgust his Lords ( as aforesaid ) when he told them , that he meant not to shew the Power of a King by diminishing their Priviledges . Tory. He wanted not bad Instillers sometimes , as he Confest afterwards . Whigg . The Summer shall want Flies , e're the Crown want Sycophants swarming about it , yet like Musketoes too , they usually Burn their Wings in the Flame ; to this sort some ascribed those words in the Kings Speech , I owe the account of my Actions to God alone , &c. But as for Tunnage and Poundage it is a thing I cannot want . Tant . No : why should he ? Whigg . The matter of taking it was not so much the question , as the manner of taking it , namely , taking it before and without the gift thereof to the King , by them that had the only power to dispose thereof . Tant . Then there was hard Measure to some , as well as hard Imprisonment , if the Parliament had the only power to give Tunnage and Poundage ; for the Kings Commission to the Customers begins thus : C. R. WHereas the Lords of the Council , taking into Consideration our Revenue , and finding that Tunnage and Poundage is a principal Revenue of our Crown , and has been continued for these many Years , have therefore Order'd all those Duties of Subsidie , Custom and Import , as they were in the Twenty first of King James , and as they shall be appointed by Us under our Seal , to be Levyed ; Know ye , that we , by the Advice of our Lords , Declare our Will , that all those Duties be Levyed and Collected as they were in the time of our Father , and in such manner as we shall appoint ; and if any Person refuse to Pay , then our Will is , that the Lord Treasurer shall Commit to Prison such , so Refusing , 'till they Conform themselves ; And we give full Power to all our Officers from time to time to give Assistance to the Farmers of the same , as fully , as when they were Collected by Authority of Parliament . Whigg . This occasion'd Debates that ended in the Dissolution of that Parliament , after which the King call'd no more of eleven long Years , and Straits and Necessities were urgent and remediless without a Parliament , and woful work in Conclusion . Tant . Why did the Parliament meddle with the Customers ? Whigg . Because they collected Customs in Tunnage and Poundage without Authority of Parliament . Tant . King James had them before they were given to him in Parliament . Whigg . King James had them by Authority of Parliament , from the day before his first Parliament begun ; but the Statute gave him Power so to do , but not from the first day of his coming to the Crown ; for he came to the Crown March 24. 1602. His first Parliament began at Westminster March 19. 1603. and took many things into Consideration , and Enacted them , before they took into consideration Tunnage and Poundage , but 1 Jac. cap. 33. the Commons , by the Advice and consent of the Lords , gave the King the Subsidy of Tunnage and Poundage , at a very low rate ; namely , but three Shillings a Tun for Wine , and so proportionably for quantities greater or lesser than a Tun ; but this expir'd with the Kings Life : his only Son and Successor took it ( without Authority of Parliament ) as his Father took it by Authority of Parliament , to the great Disgust of his Parliament , who did at length grant him Tunnage and Poundage , upon certain Trusts and Confidences , from the 9th of August , 1641. for about three months , 16 Car. 1.22 . Tant . What no longer ? Whigg . Not at one loose ; then by 16 Car. 1.25 . they trusted the King with the Customs , from November 30. 1641. to February 1. namely , for two Months longer : Then ( the other Hitch ) for five Months , namely from February 1. 1641. until July 2. 1642. Then they continued it for some little time by 16 Car. 1. c. 29. & cap. 31. & cap. 36. Tant . But did the Free , Free-Parliament in 12 Car. 2.4 . give it to our gracious King for no longer time ? Whigg . Yes , yes , for his Life , but upon trust too , so sayes the Act ; namely , The Commons Assembled in Parliament , reposing Trust and Confidence in your Majesty , in and for the Guarding and defending of the Seas , against all Persons , intending or that shall intend the Disturbance of your said Commons , in the Intercourse of Trade , and the Invading of this Realm , &c. Tant . Then it was granted for these Uses and Considerations , belike , and should be made Use of for no other end , you would say . Whigg . Yea , I do say so , as the said Statute sayes . Tant . But how will you mend your selves , if I get some of it for secret Service ? Whigg . Thou art capable of any secret Service but Pimping . Tant . Pimping ? that becomes not my Coat . Whigg . True , but I could tell you a time when Pimping , and Conniving at Whoredom and Adultery , has been as ready a road to a Bishoprick , as ever Sybthorp , Manwaring , or Mountague took . Tant . In what time ; I pray ? Whigg . In what time ? Catch-pole ! in no good time . Tant . Well , say ( tho' ) in what time ? good Whigg ! Whigg . When Popish Councils prevail'd most , and Popish Interest . Tant . Oh! a great while ago . Whigg . Yes , yes , Man-Catcher ! how fain thou wouldst find me tripping ? Tant . But did King Charles 1. take Tunnage and Poundage , and Imprison the refusers without Authority of Parliament , for the first 15 years of his Reign ? Tory. Yes indeed , Mr. Richard Chambers was Imprisoned for refusing to pay Customs , and had also 7060 Pounds of his goods taken from him , and was fined 2000 l in the Star-chamber . Tant . See what it is to be obstinate and Rebellious . Whigg . What language these Tantivees have ? Obstinate and Rebellious ! when it was Voted and Declared by the honourable House of Commons , Anno 1627. & 1628. That whosoever shall Counsel or Advise the taking or Levying of the Subsidy of Tunnage and Poundage , not granted by Parliament , or shall be any Actor or Instrument therein , shall be reputed an Innovator in the Government , and a capital Enemy to the Kingdom and Common-wealth . And if any Merchant or Person whatsoever shall voluntarily yield or pay the said Subsidy of Tunnage or Poundage , not being granted by Parliament , they shall likewise be reputed Betrayers of the Liberties of England , and Enemies to the same ; As may appear by the said Order upon Record . Now , ( good Tantivee ! ) what shall a Subject do in this Case ? he must necessarily be ground-crusht between two Mill-stones ; if he Payes not , the Kings party take all from him ; and if he Payes , the Parliament punishes him for Betraying the Liberties of England , and as a common and capital Enemy . Tant . There is but Right and Wrong in the World , which of them were in the Right ? Whigg . Neither of them would acknowledge themselves in the Wrong , I 'le warrant , 'till the longest Sword decided the Quarrel . Tant . But might not Mr. Chambers have been Pardoned , if he would have Recanted these words , — They — meaning the Merchants — are in no parts of the World so screw'd and wrung as in England , and that in Turkey they have more Incouragement . Whigg . Recant ? yes , they brought him a Recantation to Subscribe , and then he should be Released of his Fine , — 2000 l But the draught of Submission he Subscribed — thus — All the abovesaid Contents and Submission , I Richard Chambers do utterly abhor and detest , as most unjust and false , and never 'till Death will acknowledge any part thereof . Richard Chambers . Also he underwrit these Texts of Scripture , instead of Submission , namely , That make a man an Offender for a word , and lay a snare for him that reproveth in the gate ; and turn aside the just for a thing of nought . Wo to them that devise Iniquity , because it is in the Power of their hand , and they covet Fields and take them by Violence , and Houses , and take them away ; so they Oppress a man and his house , a man and his heritage . Thus saith the Lord God , let it suffice you , Oh Princes of Israel : Remove Violence and Spoil , and execute Judgment and Justice , take away your Exactions from my People , saith the Lord God. If thou seest the Oppression of the Poor , and violent perverting of Judgment and Justice in a Province ; marvel not at the matter , for he that is higher than the highest regardeth , and there be higher than they . Per me Richard Chambers . Tant . But did He that is higher than the highest regard and shew his Displeasure in this Affair ? Whigg . It is neither safe nor easy to unriddle the meaning of Gods Providence , by the Events : But as to matter of Fact , History tells us , that Richard Chambers , notwithstanding his vast Losses ( for which he never had considerable Reparation when time serv'd , so thankless an Office it is to be a State Martyr , as to the gratitude of men , but ) by Gods goodness to him , he liv'd to be Sheriff of London , and a worshipful Alderman thereof ; but his Judges in the Star-Chamber ( many of them ) did not come to the Grave in Peace ; but went out of the World as naked as they came into it , stript of all before they were bereav'd of Life ; yet the Lord Treasurer Weston dyed of his fair death , flying beyond Sea , and withall he dyed a professed ( as before he was vilely suspected , and taken upon suspition for a Masquerade ) Papist . Tant . You Whiggs thought him a Covert-papist , or a Protestant in Masquerade , when he was so preferr'd at Court from Chancellor of the Exchequer , to be the great Lord Treasurer . Whigg . He was a Creature of Buckingham's making , and Bishop Laud's Confirming . Tant . Do Bishops confirm Lord Treasurers ? Whigg . Sometimes , as well as turn Lord Treasurers themselves , as they used to be . Tant . The worst of the Disciples carryed the Bag. Whigg . That Rule holds not always true . Tant . But if the said Treasurer did Dye a profest Papist , that looks not well on our side . Tory. Nor can it surely be deny'd ; and the Commons were so sensible of it , that they agreed upon this ensuing Petition to his Majesty concerning Recusants , ( long before Weston grew so high ) in these words : To the Kings most Excellent Majesty . YOUR Majesties most Obedient and Loyal Subjects , the Commons in this present Parliament Assembled , do with great Comfort remember the many Testimonies which your Majesty hath given of your Sincerity and Zeal for the true Religion Established in this Kingdom , and in particular , your gracious Answer to both Houses of Parliament at Oxford , upon their Petition concerning the Causes and Remedies of the Increase of Popery , that your Majesty thought fit and would give Order to Remove from all Places of Authority and Government , all such Persons as are either Popish Recusants , or according to direction of former Acts of State justly to be suspected , which was then Presented as a great and principal Cause of that Mischief ; but not having received so full redress herein as may conduce to the Peace of this Church , and safety of this Regal State , they hold it their Duty once more to resort to your Sacred Majesty , humbly to Inform you , that upon Examination they find the Persons underwritten to be either Recusants , Papists , or justly suspected according to the former Acts of State , who now do , or since the Siting of the Parliament did remain in places of Government , and Authority and Trust in your several Counties of this your Realm of England , and Dominion of Wales . The Right Honourable Francis Earl of Rutland , Lieutenant of the County of Lincoln , Rutland , Northampton , Nottingham , and a Commissioner of the Peace , and of Oyer and Terminer in the County of York , and Justice of Oyer from Trent Northwards ; and also against his Deputy Justice in Oyer from Trent northwards ; the right Honourable Viscount Dunbar , Deputy Lieutenant in the East riding of York-shire , his Wife and Mother , and the greatest part of his Family being Popish Recusants ; also against William Lord Eure , a convict Popish Recusant , and in Commission for the Sewers ; Henry Lord Abergavenny , John Lord Tenham , Henry Lord Morley , John Lord Mordant , John Lord St. John of Basing , Captain of Lidley Castle in Com. Southampton ; Em. Lord Scroop , Lord President of his Majesties Council in the North , Lord Lieutenant of the County and City of York , and of Kingston upon Hull ; Anthony Viscount Mountague in Commission of the Sewers ; Sir William Wray Knight , Deputy Lieutenant , Collonel to a Regiment , his Wife a Recusant ; Sir Edward Musgrave , Sir Thomas Lampley , Justices of Peace and quorum ; Sir Thomas Savage Deputy Lieutenant and Justice of the Peace , his Wife and Children Recusants ; Sir Richard Egerton a Non-communicant ; Thomas Savage Esquire , a Deputy Lieutenant a Recusant , and his Wife Indicted and Presented ; William Whitmore , Sir Hugh Beeston , Sir William Massy , Sir William Courtn●y Knight , Vice-warden of the Stannery , and Deputy Lieutenant , a Popish Recusant ; Sir Thomas Ridley , Sir Ralph Conyers , James Lawson Esquire , Sir John Shelley Knight and Baronet , a Popish Recusant ; William Scot Esquire , a Recusant , John Finch Esquire , not convicted , but comes not to Church ; Sir William Mullineux , Deputy Lieutenant and Justice of the Peace , his Wife a Recusant ; Sir Richard Houghton Knight , Deputy Lieutenant , Sir William Norris Captain of the General Forces , and Justice of Peace , a Recusant ; Sir Gilbert Ireland Justice of Peace , a Recusant ; James Anderton Esquire , Justice of Peace , and one of his Majesties Receivers ; Edward Rigby Esquire , Clerk of the Crown , Justice of Peace , himself a good Communicant , but his Wife and Daughter Popish Recusants ; Edward E — , Robert Warren Clerk , a Justice of the Peace , justly suspected for five Reasons there mentioned , Sir Henry Compton Knight , Deputy Lieutenant , Justice of the Peace , and Commissioner for the Sewers ; Sir John Shelly Knight and Baronet , himself and his Lady Recusants ; Sir John Gage a Popish Recusant , with a vast number more of Justices of Peace , and Commissioners of Sewers , either Papists or justly suspected . Wherefore they humbly beseech your Majesty not to suffer your loving Subjects to continue any longer discouraged by the apparent sence of that Increase both in number and power , which by the Favour and Countenance of such like ill affected Governours accreweth to the Popish Party ; but that according to your own Wisdom , Goodness and Piety , ( whereof they rest assured ) you will be graciously pleased to Command that Answer of your Majesties to be effectually observed , and the Parties above named , and all such others to be put out of such Commissions and Places of Authority wherein they now are in your Majesties Realm of England , Contrary to the Acts and Laws of State in that behalf . Tant . Those last words were Pungent . Tory. Not prevalent surely , for the Parliament was soon after Dissolved , and the House of Commons having Intimation of their intended Dissolution made what hast they could to perfect a Remonstrance or Declaration against the Duke of Buckingham , and concerning Tunnage and Poundage , taken by the King since his Fathers death without consent in Parliament , and which were never payable ( they say in their Remonstrance ) to any of his Majesties Ancestors , but only by a special Act of Parliament , and ought not to be levyed without such an Act. Tant . And did the King go on Collecting and taking Tunnage and Poundage notwithstanding ? Tory. Yes , he said he could not want it ; and sent them a former Message , that if He had not a timely supply , He would betake himself to New Councils . Tant . New Councils , what were they ? Tory. The Commons in their said Remonstrance often with thoughtful Hearts remember the words — New-Councils , repeating , and Repeating them as if they were somewhat against the old Parliamentary Councils and course of this Kingdom ; and they Order'd every Member of the House to have a Copy of the said Remonstrance , for they had not time to Present it to his Gracious Majesty , but were Dissolv'd , though the Lords also prepared a Petition to stay the Kings purpose in Dissolving the Parliament , sending Viscount Mandevil , Earl of Manchester , Lord President of his Majesties Council , the Earls of Pembrook , Carlisle , and Holland , to entreat his Majesty to give Audience to the whole House of Peers . But the King returned Answer , that his Resolution was to hear no motion for that purpose , but He would Dissolve the Parliament , and he was then as good as his Word , for he immediately Dissolved them by Commission under the great Seal , Dated at Westminster June 15.2 . R. R. Car. 1. 1626. To that purpose : And withall Publishes a Declaration in Print , concerning the Grounds and Causes which moved his Majesty to Dissolve this , as also the former Parliament , Dated June 13. 2 Car. 1. two dayes before the Date of the Commission . Tant . It was the readyer against the time of using it ; Coleman was as provident . Tory. Right , And also a Proclamation was published against the said Remonstrance of the Commons , commanding all Persons of what Quality soever , who have or shall have hereafter any Copyes or Notes of the said Remonstrance , forthwith to Burn the same , that the Memory thereof might be utterly abolished , upon Pain of his Majesties Indignation and high Displeasure . Tant . Then the Tide did run very high . Tory. The King also Published another Proclamation against Preaching or Disputing the Arminian Controversies Pro or Con ; but the effects of that Proclamation , how equally soever intended , became the stopping of the Puritan's Mouths , and an uncontroul'd Liberty to the Tongues and Pens of the thriving Divinity-men , the rising side , Mountagues Party . And though the Parliament was Dissolv'd , so that the Duke of Buckingham for that nearly-reflecting Article , the last , against him , which the King in Honour , and by the Bonds of natural Affection and Piety to the Memory of his Deceased Father , thought himself obliged to Call him to a publick account for so Daring an Insolence , in applying a Plaister to the Kings breast against his Will , and without the Advice , and contrary to the Opinion of the Sworn Physitians of King James , who attributed the Cause of his trouble unto the said Pla●●●●● , and a Drink that Buckingham gave him , as was Alledged in the Thirteenth Article of the Dukes Impeachment ; and the said Drink twice given to the King by Buckingham's own Hands , and a third time refused by the King , who felt great Impairment of his Life and Health , complaining of the Drink that the Duke gave him ; His Physitians telling him , to Please him and Comfort him , that His second Impairment was from cold taken , or some other ordinary Cause ; No , no , said his Majesty , It is that which I had from Buckingham , as more at large much aggravated and insisted upon by Mr. Wandesford , who managed the Thirteenth Article of the Impeachment against Buckingham . Tant . But what said the Duke in his own Justification and Defence in the Star-Chamber ? Tory. He denyed it , and examined divers Witnesses about the matter . Tant . And what then ? Tory. Nothing more , the Cause never came to Judicial Hearing in that Court. Tant . Then let us hear no more of it ; I am sick of it my self : I never heard so much before ; Go on . Tory. After the Parliament was Dissolv'd and things well husht , the Privy Council Order'd all Customs to be paid , and the Refusers Punisht by Fines , Imprisonment , this was deem'd one New-council , and Loans another . Tant . Loans , prythee Tory , what were they ? Tory. The King sent to the Rich a Letter ( beginning , Trusty and Well-beloved , &c. ) under the Privy Seal , requiring him or them to send him within twelve dayes so much Money ( as for Example , in the West-riding in York-shire , to Sir Thomas Wentworth 20 l Sir Francis Fuljam 20 l Sir Edward Osburn 30 l Godfrey Copley Esquire 15 l ) promising in the Name of the Kings Majesty , his Heirs and Successors , to repay the Money so lent . Tant . Ay , when ? le ts hear that . Tory. Within eighteen Months . Tant . And was the Money Repayed ? Tory. Pish ! that 's a silly question ; then of the City of London , the King bid them lend him a hundred thousand pound . Tant . Well said , a few such Summs from Towns or Cities would do the business ; but did they lend the Money ? Tory. No , the City desir'd to be excused . Tant . And what then ? Tory. Then the Privy-Councel required them , all excuses set apart , to return a Direct and speedy Answer to his Gracious Majesty , or in default thereof , that his Majesty may frame his Councils as appertaineth to a King in such extream and Important occasions . Tant . And were they not afraid and apprehensive of the Innuendo ? Tory. The Commands rested not here , for they also commanded the City to Equippe twenty of their best Ships in the River , with all manner of Tackle , Sea-stores and Ammunition , men and Victuals for three Months . Tant . And did they do it ? Tory. They grumbled at it , saying it was without President ; as did also the Deputy-Lieutenants and Justices of Peace at Dorset , having received the Kings Commands for setting forth Ships from Pool , Weymouth , and Lime ; but the Council checkt them for daring to dispute Orders , instead of obeying them ; and whereas they mention presidents , they might know that the presidents of former times were Obedience , not Direction . Whigg . It would puzzle a good Historian to find presidents of Obedience in England to Arbitrary-sway , and Orders of Privy-Council for Impositions without Law to back them . Tory. How ? Did not stout King Edward 1. Command Roger Bigot Earl of Norfolk , and Lord Marshal of England , and several other Lords to go to the Wars in Gascoygne in France , which they refusing , except the King himself went also in Person ; But the King threatned then to take away their Lands and their Lives ; saying to the Lord Marshal , and Swearing — By God , Sir Earl , you shall either Go or Hang. Whigg . Ay , but the Earl answered the King at the same moment , — I Swear by the same Oath , I will neither Go nor Hang , and so without leave went out of the Room and departed ; and shortly after , he and Humphrey Bohun Earl of Hereford , and other Lords and Noble-men Assembled , and other their Friends to the number of thirty Bannerets , one thousand five hundred men at Arms , well appointed and stood upon their Guard ; but the King Dissembled his Resentments at that time , being about to go to Flanders , where he spent much Money , and for recruit Summons a Parliament ( to meet ) at York , promising from thenceforth never to charge his Subjects otherwise than by their Consents in Parliament , and also to Pardon all such as had denyed to attend him in this Journey . Tant . And did they trust the Kings word ? Tory. Yes : but he broke it and all his other Oaths and Confirmations of the Peoples Charters made in Parliament , two Years after ; having obtained and bought a Pardon for so doing , ( as aforesaid ) of his Holiness ; nay , he begun to play his Arbitrary Pranks long before that , for ( in 8 Edw. 1. ) he sent out his Writ of Quo Warranto ( a fine Engine to get Money ) to examine by what Title men held their Lands , which upon flaws found in their Charters , and pryed into by the Lawyers brought him in much Money ; 'till John Earl of Warren stopt the Current and stem'd the Tyde , for calling upon him to show his Title , He drew out an old rusty Sword , and said , He held his Land by that , and by that would hold it to Death , and having many Backers , it made the King desist from his Project . Tant . An old rusty Sword , dost say ? that was more than the old Christian Weapons , Prayers and Tears . Tory. And stopt the Kings Tyranny and lawless Usurpations , more than a thousand Petitions , Prayers and Tears . Tant . Still I say Subjects , Christian Subjects should use no Weapons but Prayers and Tears . Whigg . What , not against Robbers , Thieves and Murderers ? Tant . Not against Magistrates that Rob by Law. Whigg . Thou talk'st like an Asse every day more than other ; Rob by Law ? a Contradiction in terminis ; if there be Law for it , it is not Robery , Theft nor Murder ; and if it be against Law or without Law , all violent taking of mens Goods ( one Subject from another ) is Theft and Robbery , except the Law enjoyn it , and may lawfully be Resisted , without all doubt , in like manner and with such Weapons as the Onset or Assault is made . Tant . What in an Officer , a Commission-Officer ? Whigg . No man can be Authoriz'd to do an ill thing , or an illegal thing by any mans Commission , much less by the Kings Commission , or the Broad-Seal , for the King can do no wrong ; if it be wrong , it stands for nothing ; it is not the Kings act , nor the Kings Commission , but Surreptitious , and punishable . Tant . And who shall Judge of its Legality , or the legality of the Resistance ? Whigg . The Judges , and the Law , and the Juries . Tant . Nay , then we are well enough yet . Whigg . If you be well , keep you so , whil'st you are well , but remember Belknap , Tresilian , &c. many Judges have been Hang'd ( right , right and good Reason ) for corrupt and false Judgment , there are they that shall judge the Judges . Tant . Ay , but when ? at the day of Judgment ? Whigg . Yes , yes , no more on 't ; but this Doctrine of resisting with other Weapons than Prayers and Tears , Force with Force , Violence with Violence , in our own just Defence , seems so strange to the new Tantivee-men , that herein join with the old Error of the Anabaptists , ( condemned in the 37 Article of the Church of England ) as also the Family of Love , who Condemned all Wars , as did the Manichees ; nay , the learned Ludovicus Vives saith , Arma Christianum Virum tractare nescio an fas sit ; I know not whether or no it be lawful for a Christian to Fight at all , or go to the Wars , and wear Weapons ; Lactantius also was against all Killing , right and wrong , by Law , or without Law , by or without the Magistrate . Tant . The Article you mention , sayes , it is lawful to wear Weapons , and serve in the Wars at the Command of the Magistrate . Whigg . Right , I say no other , the other resisting without the Magistrate , is onely in a Christians own Defence , the dictates of the Law of God , the Law of Nature , the Law of Wisdom , reason and Prudence ; the Law that Worms and all Creatures have of Self-preservation ; he 's accessary to his own Death , and felo de se , that resists not a Murtherer or a Robber . Tant . Ay , but suppose the Magistrate take your Goods violently against Law. Whigg . That also is impossible , for as he is a Magistrate he acts by Law , and cannot possibly Act as a Magistrate but by having the Law on his side ; if he has not the Law to Vouch him , he Acts not like a Magistrate , but as a Robber ; but this must be certain , clear and evident , otherwise Resistance is a Sin. Tant . This is right Whiggish Principles , and Whiggish Doctrines , and Whiggish Practices . Whigg . This is the old English Practice , and the dictates of right Reason and the Law. Tant . Where did you learn these Doctrines ? Whigg . I cannot well tell where first I had them , for they are connate and coeval with the reason of every Wise man , and Good man , but I think I first had them in Print , out of a Sermon Preach't by one of the Kings Chaplains in Ordinary , William Haywood D. D. Preacht before his Majesty at Newport in the Isle of Wight , during the time of the Treaty there ( for Peace ) betwixt the King ( Charles 1. ) and the Parliament ; upon a suitable Text ( Rom. 12.18 . ) If it be possible , as much as lyeth in you , live peaceably with all men : Where , excellently and suitably he Discourses of the first words of the Text ; I 'le repeat onely his own words in Print , in descant upon the words — If it be possible , namely , ( He sayes , ) A form of Speech this is which implieth often Difficulties in the business ; and sometimes Impossibility ; difficult where the Parties to be reconciled are froward , and self-willed Enemies to Peace in Davids language . Impossibility where no Agreement will be had , without loss of a good Conscience : Where Gods Honour , or the administration of Justice , or the discharge of our calling lieth at stake , so that we cannot have Peace with men , unless we be irreligious , unjust or unfaithful . In the former case where Peace is only difficult ; that should stir up our dilgence the rather ; endeavour with so much the more Patience and unwearied Industry to overcome the frowardness of those we have to deal with ; and where so precious a Jewel as Peace is to be compassed , with expence of our labour or our substance , there spare for no cost or pains . But where it is impossible to a Servant of God , where nothing will do it but the sale of a good Conscience , there rouse up our courage , and prefer not outward Peace before inward ; mens contentment , or our own temporal commodity or safety , before Gods Honour , our Souls quiet and the publick good . But it will here be demanded , How we may know when Peace is possible , when not : Six cases are mentioned by some Divines , ye may referr them to the three heads aforenamed , of Religion , Justice , and Faithfulness in our calling . Of Religion first . God himself ( in case his publick Worship be indangered ) enjoyns us flatly to break the Peace . If thy Brother the son of thy Mother , or thy Son , or thy Daughter , or the Wife of thy bosom , or thy friend , which is as thine own Soul , entice thee secretly , saying , Let us go and Serve other Gods which thou shalt not know , &c. Thou shalt not consent unto him , nor hearken unto him , neither shall thine eye pitty him : Thou shalt not spare , nor conceal him , but thou shalt surely kill him , thy hand shall be first upon him , and afterward the hand of all the People , Deut. 13.6 . Thus ye are to understand it in case of Temptation to manifest Idolatry , ( and Popery is clearly prov'd to be Idolatry ) Blasphemy , Heresie or Apostacy from the true Faith and Worship of God : we can have no Peace , nay , we can have no Mercy ; we are not allowed to spare and conceal the party so tempting us , but deliver him up to just Punishment , be he never so near , or dear to us . Secondly , where our selves are Persecuted for Religion , or Vertue , or Obedience to Gods Law in any kind , and there is no way of satisfying our Persecutors , or delivering our selves from trouble , but by denying our Faith , yielding up our Vertue , or violating our Obedience to Gods Commandments . In these two cases , the one offensive , the other defensive ; for preservation of our Religion , and our Duty to God , no Peace possible . Two other cases follow , which belong to Justice . One where we are passive , or those who are one with us : and we are violently assaulted contrary to Law and Equity . We may then break the Peace for our own Preservation , in defending our selves , so we do it Cum moderamine inculpatae tutelae , go not beyond what is needful to our honest defence , or theirs who depend on us , as our Wives , Children or Family . The like holds when we are violently handled , because we will not joyn with others in breaking Peace , and trampling down Justice . Cast in thy lot among us : We will find all precious substance , and fill our Houses with spoil , Prov. 1.13 . Thus where in defence of Justice to our selves , and our own private , being Innocent , and against wrongful Authority , our Lot is to be passive . Another case may fall out , wherein it becomes us to be active , though our selves , in our particular Interest suffer not : and that is , where we see our innocent neighbours wrongfully abused , and distressed to extremity by lawless hands ; we may there rise up in rescue of oppressed Innocence , and do as much in our neighbours case , as we would wish done in our own . Thus Lot resisted the Sodomites in behalf of the Angels whom they Invaded with violence : And Moses succoured the Israelite striving with the Egyptian , Exod. 2.12 . And thus every good man , armed with wealth and power , may , and ought to stand up in defence of the poor Widow and fatherless , against their tyrannous oppressors . Nor are they breakers of the Peace in so doing ; but these cruel grinders of the Poor whom they resist . Now Tantivee , what think you of your Doctrine , that Christians may use no other Weapons but Prayers and Tears ? and what your Design may be in Preaching up , and every Sunday inculcating such Crambee Doctrine at this Juncture , I do not know , it looks like a Set-business : What think you of Dalilah's Policy ? the crafty Whore was Brib'd to Betray Sampson , but the Philistines durst not set upon him 'till he was Bound , for they had woful Experience of his Whiggish Valour ; therefore they hire the Hireling to Bind him first , that they might securely Spoil him ; a very crafty Piece of Politicks . Tant . Ay , and if all you Whiggs were Bound Hand and Foot , 'till we did to you what we list , it were no great matter . Whigg . It would be the safest way , for Torles and Tantivees have no good Luck at Fighting , though none so prone to Challenge and Quarrel as they ; ( right Hectors ) witness a late double Duel of Chieftanes , Whiggs and Tories . Tant . I never heard of it . Whigg . No matter , you shall not then from me ; for I purposely conceal your Tory-Champion , out of profound respect to him , because he was most Piteously baffled . Tant . What , out of his Life ? Whigg . No , no ; To save that ignobly , he onely parted with his Honour ; that he might die dayly and endure a thousand Deaths , in conscious memory and doleful regret for the cowardly baseness and loss of Honour , which none but the Son of W — no man of Honour will part with it ; basely to purchase a Sneaking reprieve for a baffled Life . Tant . I do not apprehend you . Whigg . No matter ; It is not to the History , but pat to our present purpose , whil'st you Tantivee's would perswade us to bind our own Hands 'till our Throats be cut , by Hectors and Tories , against Law , and that It is Divinity so to do ; I told you before , that this was the Old Doctrine in Ireland , just before the Tory Cut-throats basely Butcher'd the Protestants , Man , Woman and Child that they could come at , or durst come at ; and they came at all , and spared not Man , Woman nor Child , who happened to be Armed with no other Weapons but Prayers and Tears ; old Earl Warren's rusty Sword was the onely Shelter and Safe-guard under God , there is nothing else frights a Jesuit from a Massacre , but fear of losing his own life ; but for Prayers and Tears , the Crocodiles relent not , though you Weep your Hearts out ; no , let them once begin their Violence , ( which God forbid ) but if they do , he deserves to have his Throat cut , and his Wife and Children first miserably Butcher'd before his face , that so unmans himself as not to defend the helpless Babes with no other Weapons but Prayers and Tears . Prayers and Tears ! is that the word ? Why , box it about then in every Tantivee pulpit , and number the Converts , and tell me how many English-men ( Protestants or Papists ) are proselyted to the new Tantivee-doctrine ; yet if all the Papists in Christendome , and all the fierce Episcopal or Presbyterian Bigots , whose Religion is Persecution , and Blood and Wounds , an inhospitable and inhumane Crew , that will think it Religion to kill men if they will not go to Heaven , Plunder and Fine them , if they will not march along ( their way too ) and yet in their publick Confessions and Articles of Faith , acknowledge themselves fallible , and whether they be right or wrong they cannot well tell , to be sure : Pretty hearts , all other People must have no other Christian-weapons but Prayers and Tears , whilst they with Sword in Hand , hold a Bible in one hand , and dart and flash with the other , as if they ( alone ) were the Popes Commission-Officers , or Antitichrists Curaziers , arm'd Cap-a-pe , whilst the trembling and better part of Christendome kneel Weeping before them , Crying to them for — Mercy for Gods sake , — Quarter for Heavens sake ; whilst with deaf Ears , hardened Hearts , and bloody Hands , they are Killing men for Gods sake ; If I could not be reconciled , yet I could cohabit peaceably , lovingly and neighbourly with any Religion , except this Persecuting Religion , ( under what form soever it lurks : ) It is not of God , but from Abaddon , ( that is ) the Destroyer , who was a Murtherer from the beginning ; an Inquisition , a High-Commission , an Ecclesiastical Jaylor , Horning , Cursing , Damning , Imprisoning , Stooling or Fooling upon the Stool of Repentance , &c. differ but as the old Viper and her Brood , though they eat up one another , they are all Vipers , all the same Image of the Beast , and all of a Breed ; or as a Serpent and a Dragon , a little time , and good store of Blood and growth makes the Serpent right Dragon : God bless us all from their Stings , from their Bloody Jaws and all devouring Maws . Tant . Nay , the Fanaticks say the Episcopal are more Condescending and Merciful than the Presbyterian . Tory. You know the Proverb , Curst Cowes have short Horns ; but you may know the Nature of the Beast , the Cursed nature , by her Dossing at men on all trivial occasions , though her Horns are almost worn to the Stumps : of all Persecuting Religious there 's never a Barrel better Herring ; for they all do as much Mischief as they can ; I grant some of them have not the force , the opportunity , the longed-for Power of being bloodily cruel , but they show their good will , you see ; though they are forc't ( poor Hearts ) to Thrash in their Cloaks ; the Cloaks and Pretences of Mercy and Christian Compassion : this makes such a jumble with their Practices , that they Thrash now 'till they Sweat again , and are almost tired and out of breath ; they cannot well tell what to do for the best , which makes them so various from themselves ; sometimes all Love and Kindness , Charity and Indulgence ; and then again , at it again , with Curses and Gaols , Hell and Damnation ; — Into what difficulties doth sin plunge poor Souls ? whereas , how easie is Christs Yoak ? what Guards and Bulwarks are necessary to secure Tyranny and Cruelty , Oppression and Violence ? and all too little ; however , no fence ( can be had ) for their Fears , nor any cure for their wounded Spirits and Consciences : whereas on the contrary , How easy is it , and pleasant to be Sober , Temperate , Virtuous , Loving , and to live according as the Law , counsel us , not taking new Councels , New wayes , and by-wayes , out of the right Road of the Kings High-way . Tory. Humanity teaches men no such monstrous cruelty . Whigg . 'T is true , for their superstition ( Invented to be a Crutch for Pride and Avarice ) under the Vizard of Divinity first destroyes Humanity out of the Bigots ; and then , and not till then , they cease to be men , and lose all humane Bowels and Compassion , being Transubstantiated to perfect Devils , and Abaddon's , or Destroyers ; so devillish are all persecuting Religions : whereas Christs Kingdom ( the Gospel ) is not of this World , nor are its Weapons carnal but Spiritual ; if Christs Kingdom were of this World , then might , and would , and should his Servants fight for it ; but now is his Kingdom not from hence . Tant . A little more of this would make me perfect Whigg , I think ; yet I had rather hear more of the History ; How did the Loans thrive ? when were they repay'd ? or , was the Exchequer shut up at pay-day ? or what became of the Ships , and the Ship-money ? Tory. The Ships , and Men , and Fleet , and Money went the way that a great deal of English-money has gone since that time , namely , to France with the Duke of Buckingham ; who made a base broken Voyage of it , and returned to get Recruits , which the King provided for him as well as he could ; and away then the Duke went ( for a second Venture ) towards the Isle of Rhee again ; but he got no further onward his way thither than Portsmouth , for there he was Stabb'd by Lieutenant Felton . Whigg . Upon what Provocation ? Tory. I 'le tell you anon ; as for the Loans , the King Promis'd that this way should not be made a President for the time to come , to charge them or their Posterity , to the Prejudice of their Just and Ancient Liberties , enjoyed under his most Noble Progenitors , and Promising them , In the Word of a Prince , to repay such Summes . Tant . That is to be understood when he has the Money to repay . Whigg . Yes , but that time never yet came . Tant . I am not for this kind of Lending , whether I will or no , and without being able to sue for , or recover ( neither by fair means nor foul ) neither Principal nor Interest , I 'le Swear . Whigg . Nay , Do not Swear , I 'le believe the Parson without Searing ; for Men of thy Coat and Tantivee-principle seldom put out Money to Interest or Use , except to the Ale-house or Tavern , to wipe out the Chalk , and clear old Scores , and then run fresh upon Tick again ; what needs thou to care for the Liberties and Charters of an English-man ? thou hast no Inheritance to lose , nor will thy Heirs fall out or quarrel about the Land thou leavest them ; thou wilt take a Course for that , and make thine own Hands and Guts thy Executors . Tory. To the Imposition of Loans was added the Burthen of Billeting of Souldiers ( return'd from that unsuccesseful and dishonourable Voyage from Cadiz ) and Moneys to discharge their quarters were for the present to be levyed upon the Countrey , to be repay'd out of Summes Collected upon the General Loan . Tant . Yes , when they could catch it . Tory. The Companies were scattered here and there all the Kingdom over , but that did not much affright men out of their Purses , though many Felonies , Robberies , Rapes and Murders were Committed by the Souldiers and Mariners ; but they were governed by Martial-law ; and some were Executed , but they Mastered the People , disturbed the Peace of Families , committed frequent Rapes , Burglaries and Robberies , Murthers and Barbarous Cruelties , which made a general Outcry and Lamentation wherever they came : but the Lord Chief Justice ( Sir Randolph Crew ) lost his Place for not favouring the Loan ; and in his room succeeded a right Cavalier , ( Sir Nicholas Hide ) who yet for his Abilities and Skill in Law , might without blushing climb up to the Bench ; but he could not without great disgust and general Prejudice succeed a man so universally belov'd as was Sir Randolph Crew . To advance this Loan , one Sibthorp had contriv'd a Tantivee-Sermon , Preached by him at Northampton , at Lent Assiizes , upon Rom. 13.7 . called Apostolical Obedience , and by all means the Divinity must be in Print , or else you 'l say , how could it have reacht the Ears of Bishop Laud , or made room for Preferment . And Archbishop Abbot must License it under his own Hand , or take what followes . Tant . Why sure he would not lose his Archbishoprick for want of Subscribing his Name . Tory. He refused to do it , though the Court prest him earnestly to do it , and his Archbishoprick was Sequestred soon after . Whigg . Some said it was Bishop Lauds Policy , to pick a Quarrel with him , if he refused to obey the Kings Commands , or expose him to the Indignation of a Parliament , if he dared to License such Tantivee-Stuff , and illegal and wicked Positions ; some called them Traiterous Positions ; he affirmed that the Prince who is the Head , and makes his Court and Council , it is his Duty to direct and make Laws . Eccles . 8.3 , 4. He doth whatsoever pleases him ; where the word of the the King is , there is power , and who may say unto him , What dost thou ? And — If Princes Command any thing which Subjects may not Perform , because 't is against the Laws of God , or of Nature , or Impossible , yet Subjects are bound to undergoe the Punishment without either resisting , or railing , or reviling , and so to yield a Passive Obedience where they cannot exhibit an active one : I know no other Case but one of these three wherein a Subject may excuse himself with Passive Obedience , but in all other he is bound to Active Obedience , sayes Sybthorp . Tory. He had forgot the Laws of this Land , which all Kings are bound and Sworn to obey ; for the municipal Laws are not immediately any of those three , and Doctor Manwaring he fisht for Preferment with two Sermons to Drill in the Loan , though against Law , as the King confest in after Statutes ; as also the Ship-writs Condemn'd by the King : ( 16 Car. 1.14 . ) But those Court-Sermons did Mischief awhile , though in Conclusion the Court-Parasites smarted for their sawcy rashness and falshood ; Manwaring asserting , that the King is not bound to observe the Laws of the Realm concerning the Subjects Rights and Liberties . Whigg . This is just like the Popes Pardon , and Absolving King Edward of and from the Obligation of his Coronation-Oath , Vows and Promises . Tory. Manwaring also asserted , that those who refused to pay the Loan , Offended against the Law of God. Tant . Did he find that in the Bible ? Tory. And that the Authority of Parliament is not necessary for the raising of Aids and Subsidies . Whigg . 'T is a wonder to me that the Parliament let him escape after this : what sets a Kingdom in a flame but these Incendiaries , that do not , or will not know the Constitution of this Kingdom and Common-wealth ? An equal Bridle to curb Tyranny and Arbitrary Sway on the one hand , and Anarchy and Confusion on the other . Tory. Ay , our Laws are good enough , none better . Whigg . Then what Traytors and Villains are they , that dare debauch the fundamental Constitutions and Laws ? Tory. It was the way to Preferment . Whigg . The way to the Gallowes , was it not ? better a hundred thousand such Sycophants were Hang'd , than a good King and his Laws Betray'd , and the Kingdom Involv'd in blood through their sly Tantivee-leasings and Insinuations . Tory. Bishop Laud was the Man , and all in all with the King , all Preferments in Church and State he annuated , or He and Buckingham ; though they so mischeivously to the King and State , countenanc't the Loan , so contrary to the grants of the great Charter , and the Subjects Liberties and Properties , which the King was bound by Oath and Duty to Preserve and Observe , and was ready to do it of his own Benignity and Goodness , but those Court-Parasites ruin'd all at length , and themselves too . Popery and Arbitrary Sway are Twins , alwayes coupled ; the Queen had great Influence upon the Favourites , either to make or marre them , and they knew it as well ; and the Jesuits had too much Influence over her , what by fair means , what by foul ; but the King was angry , when he heard they made her ( for Penance ) walk bare-foot to Tyburn . Whigg . The Jesuits ! Ay , they are pretty Creatures for Princes to be Slaves unto , and to become their Vassals and Instruments ; they have got the two Reyns ( into their own hands ) that guide the silly World , namely , Hope and Fear , whom the hopes of Heaven cannot allure to their purposes , the fear of Hell and Purgatory does affright . Tant . Brave doings ! In Athens Themistocles was Governour and Rul'd the City , his Wife rul'd him , and her Son rul'd her , where then were lodg'd the Reyns of Government ? Tory. What 's that to us here in England ? good Impertinent ! Whigg . Do not interrupt us , you ( Parson ) with your Nonsensical Prate out of old Notes , which you read devoutly out of Sybthorp , Manwaring and Mountague ; do not mistake your self , you think the People of Athens had a brave time on 't , luscious doings ; if you had liv'd there , you would have known where , and to whom you would make your special Addresses and close Applications . Tory. Archbishop Abbot was quite out of play , for refusing to License that doughty Sermon ; to which he made many rational exceptions ; as namely , in Page 2. to these words — And whereas the Prince pleads not the power of Prerogative : and in page 8. The Kings Duty is first to direct and make Laws : and — page 10. If nothing may excuse from active Obedience , but what is against the Law of God , or of Nature , or Impossible : How does this agree with Page 5. That all Subjects are bound to all their Princes , according to the Laws and Customs of the Kingdom wherein they live ? ( he might have honestly added ) and no otherwise : and Page 12. yea , all antiquity to be absolutely for absolute Obedience to Princes in all Civil and Temporal things . Tant . Hey day , this is like Pope Boniface to Philip ( the fair ) of France , Sciat te in Temporalibus & Spiritualibus nobis subjacere . Whigg . They do not say in Spiritual things they would have their Prince absolute over all but themselves , but is that Position agreeable to the great Charter , and many more Acts of Parliament in Edw. 1. and Edw. 3. That the Subjects shall not be grieved to sustain any Charge or Aid , but by the Common Assent , and that in Parliament ; and the Petition of Right at large Confirms the same , by the Repetition of many more Statutes to that purpose . Tory. Enough , Enough of this . Tant . What Opinion had Archbishop Abbot of Dr. Laud ? Tory. He soon found him , and said , his Life in Oxford was to pick quarrels in the Lectures of the Publick Readers , and to give notice of them to the Bishop of Durham , that he might fill the Ears of King James with Discontents , against the honest men that took Pains in their Places , and settled the truth ( which he called Puritanisme ) in their Auditors . It was an Observation what a sweet man this was like to be , that the first observable Act that he did , was the Marrying the Earl of D. to the Lady R ; when it was notorious to the World that she had another Husband ; King James did for many years take this so ill , that he would never hear of any great Preferment of him : The Bishop of Lincoln , Doctor Williams got him at length advanc't to the Bishoprick of St. Davids , which he had not long enjoy'd , before he began to undermine his Benefactor . Tant . That Ingratitude is inexcusable . Tory. He continued his Rancour against him to his utmost to the very last . Whigg . Ay , Archbishop Abbot ( that had woful cause to know him ) gave this Character of Land , that such was his aspiring nature , That he would underwork any man in the World , so that he might gain by it . Tory. The little man had a high towring Spirit ; which made the Kings Jester , Archee , who would needs say Grace before the King , when little Bishop Laud was present , in these words — Great Praise be given to God , and little Laud to the Devil . Whigg . The worst Crime that was laid to his Charge , was the Countenancing Arbitrary and illegal Taxes recommended by Sybthorp and Manwaring , and abetting these Sycophants ; which some call Crimen lesae majestatis Legis & Regis ; There cannot be a greater Treason than an endeavour to rob the King of his Goodness , Truth , Conscience , Trust , and fidelity to his People , nor a readier Road to Ruine : The Kings Prerogative is the guard of the Subjects Liberties and Peace , he has no Prerogative but what the Law gives him , much less any Prerogative against Law , Equity , Reason , Conscience and Justice , though Sycophants for vile ends would so have stretch't it : They wore the old Text thredbare — ( Give unto Caesar the things that are Caesars ) in those Tantivee-dayes . Tant . Why so ? Whigg . If you will not be Angry , ( Parson ) I 'le tell you a Story , a true one , of my own certain knowledge and remembrance , that will for ever Spoyl ( hereafter ) all your Tantivee-Sermons on that Text. Tant . Nay , if it be such a spoyl-Sermon-story , keep it to your self , for I have four Sermons upon that Text , ready writ , and they will last me ( with Repetitions you know , and eeking out ) two whole Months . Tory. Prythee , ( Whigg ) let 's hear your story , ( however ) let the Parson storm as he pleases , or be disappointed . Whigg . Before one of the wisest Kings that ever England had , King James , did one D. Harsnet Preach a Tantivee-Sermon on that Text — Give unto Caesar — but his Sermon ( poor man ! ) instead of getting thanks for the same , had the Hap ( that afterwards befell Manwarings Sermon , it happened ) to be Burnt by the common Hangman . Tant . Hard Hap ! what was the matter ? Whigg . Onely for asserting , ( as thou hast done twenty times , ) That all mens Goods and Moneys are Caesars ; for which the Parliament ( though the Sermon was Preached in the Kings Chappel at Whitehall ) call'd my Gentleman coram nobis , taking great offence thereat . Tant . What was that Doctor Harsnet ? Whigg . He was afterwards made Bishop of Chichester , and then Bishop of Norwich , just as Mr. Mountague leapt , and perhaps upon the same rise and advantage of the ground , ( Tantiviisme , ) and for the same Covetous reason too , because the Norwich Bishoprick is the richer ; and then leapt to Yorks Archbishoprick . Tory. But King James disown'd the Doctor in that affair , and did not own him therein . Whigg . Yes , yes , I told you he was a wise King , and used to say , that he was a Tyrant that did not rule according to Laws , and calmed the business , moderating thus — and saying , that the Bishop onely failed in this , When he said , the Goods were Caesars , he did not add , they were his according to the Laws and Customs of the Country wherein they did live . Tory. I do not deny but the Bishops had great Sway and influence over affairs both in Church and State , if the Lord Faukland's Speech in Parliament to that purpose , was well Calculated for those times . Tant . I have heard much Discourse of the Speech of that Lord , so fam'd for his Learning and Loyalty , as well as Nobility , but I could never get a sight of it . Whigg . It was call'd the true Picture of those times , pourtraying that modern Episcopacy to the life , Anno 1640. and here it is . Tant . Read it . Whigg . The whole would be tedious , I 'le read part of it , thus he begins — MAster Speaker , he is a great stranger in Israel who knows not that this Kingdom hath long laboured under many and great Oppressions , both in Religion and Liberty : and his acquaintance here is not great , or his ingenuity less , who doth not both know and acknowledge that a great , if not a principal cause of both these have been some Bishops and their adherents . Master Speaker , a little search will serve to find them to have been the Destruction of Unity , under pretence of Uniformity , to have brought in Superstition and Scandal , under the titles of Reverence and Decency ; to have defil'd our Church , by adorning our Churches ; to have slackned the strictness of that Union which was formerly between us and those of our Religion beyond the Sea ; an action as unpolitick as ungodly . Master Speaker , we shall find them to have Tith'd Mint and Anise , and have left undone the weightier works of the Law ; to have been less eager upon those who damn our Church , than upon those who upon weak Conscience , and perhaps as weak reasons ( the dislike of some commanded Garment , or some uncommanded posture ) onely abstained from it . Nay , it hath been more dangerous for men to go to some neighbours Parish , when they had no Sermon in their own , than to be obstinate and perpetual Recusants ; while Masses have been said in security , a Conventicle hath been a crime , and which is yet more , the conforming to Ceremonies hath been more exacted than the conforming to Christianity ; and whilest men for Scruples have been undone , for attempts upon Sodomy they have onely been admonished . Master Speaker , we shall find them to have been like the Hen in Aesop , which laying every day an Egg upon such a proportion of Barly , her Mistress increasing her proportion in hope she would encrease her eggs , she grew so sat upon that addition , that she never laid more : so though at first their Preaching was the occasion of their preferment , they after made their Preferment the occasion of their not Preaching . Master Speaker , we shall find them to have resembled another Fable , the Dog in the manger ; to have neither Preached themselves , nor employ'd those that should , nor suffered those that would : to have brought in Catechising only to thrust out Preaching , cryed down Lectures by the name of Factions , either because their Industry in that Duty appeared a reproof to their neglect of it , ( not unlike to that we read of him , who in Nero's time and Tacitus his story was accused , because by his Vertue he did appear Exprobrare vitia Principis ) or with intention to have brought in darkness , that they might the easier sowe their tares , while it was night ; and by that Introduction of Ignorance , introduce the better that Religion which accompts it the Mother of devotion . Master Speaker , in this they have abused his Majesty , as well as his people , for when they had with great wisdom ( since usually the Children of darkness are wiser in their generation than the Children of light ; I may guess not without some eye upon the most politick action of the most politick Church ) silenced on both parts those Opinions which have often tormented the Church , and have , and will alway trouble the Schools , they made use of this declaration to tye up one side , and let the other loose , whereas they ought either in discretion to have been equally restrained , or in justice to have been equally tolerated . And it is observable , that that party to which they gave this License , was that whose Doctrine , though it were not contrary to Law , was contrary to Custom , and for a long while in this Kingdom was no oftner Preached than recanted . The truth is , Master Speaker , that as some ill Ministers in our State first took away our Money from us , and after endeavoured to make our Money not worth the taking , by turning it into Brass by a kind of Antiphilosophers-stone ; so these men used us in the point of Preaching , first depressing it to their power , and next labouring to make it such , as the harm had not been much if it had been depressed ; the most frequent Subjects even in the most sacred Auditories , being the Jus divinum of Bishops and Tithes , the Sacredness of the Clergy , the Sacriledge of Impropriations , the demolishing of Puritanism and propriety , the building of the Prerogative at Pauls , the introduction of such Doctrines , as admitting them true , the truth would not recompense the scandal ; or of such as were so far false , that as Sir Thomas Moore says of the Casuists , their business was not to keep men from sinning , but to inform them Quàm propè ad peccatum sine peccato liceat accedere : so it seemed their work was to try how much of a Papist might be brought in without Popery , and to destroy as much as they could of the Gospel , without bringing themselves into danger of being destroyed by the Law. Master Speaker , to go yet further , some of them have so industriously laboured to deduce themselves from Rome , that they have given great suspition that in gratitude they desire to return thither , or at least to meet it half way : Some have evidently labour'd to bring in an English , though not a Roman Popery : I mean not only the outside and dress of it , but equally absolute ; a blind dependance of the People upon the Clergy , and of the Clergy upon themselves ; and have opposed the Papacy beyond the Sea , that they might settle one beyond the water . Nay , common Fame is more than ordinary false , if none of them have found a way to reconcile the Opinions of Rome to the Preferments of England ; and be so absolutely , directly and cordially Papists , that it is all that fifteen hundred pounds a year can do to keep them from confessing it . Master Speaker , I come now to speak of our Liberties ; and considering the great Interest these men have had in our common Master , and considering how great a good to us , they might have made that Interest in him , if they would have used it to have informed him of our general Sufferings ; and considering how little of their freedom of Speech at Whitehall might have saved us a great deal of the use we have now of it in the Parliament-house , their not doing this alone were occasion enough for us to accuse them as the betrayers , though not as the destroyers of our Rights and Liberties : Though , I confess , if they had been onely silent in this particular , I had been silent too ; But , alas , they whose Ancestors in the darkest times excommunicated the breakers of Magna Charta , did now by themselves , and their adherents , both write , preach , plot , and act against it , by encouraging Doctor Beal , by preferring Doctor Mannering , appearing forward for Monopolies and Ship-money : and if any were slow and backward to comply , blasting both them and their Preferment with utmost expression of their hatred , the title of Puritans . Master Speaker , we shall find some of them to have labour'd to exclude both all persons and all causes of the Clergy , from the ordinary Jurisdiction of the temporal Magistrate , and by hindring prohibitions ( first by apparent power against the Judges , and after by secret agreements with them ) to have taken away the only legal bound to their arbitrary power , and made as it were a conquest upon the common Law of the Land , which is our common Inheritance ; and after made use of that power to turn their Brethren out of their Free-holds , for not doing that which no Law of man required them to do ; and which ( in their Opinions ) the Law of God required of them not to do . We shall find them in general to have encouraged all the Clergy to suits , and to have brought all suits to the Council-table ; that having all power in Ecclesiastical matters , they laboured for equal power in Temporal , and to dispose as well of every Office , as of every Benefice , which lost the Clergy much Revenue , and much reverence ( whereof the last is never given when it is so asked , ) by encouraging them indiscreetly to exact more of both than was due ; so that indeed the gain of their greatness extended but to a few of that order , though the envy extended upon all . We shall find of them to have both kindled and blown the common fire of both Nations , to have both sent and maintained that Book , of which the Author no doubt hath long since wish'd with Nero , Vtinam nescissem litera ! and of which more than one Kingdom hath cause to wish , that when he writ that , he had rather burn'd a Library , though of the value of Ptolomie's . We shall find them to have been the first and principal cause of the breach , I will not say of , but since the Pacification at Berwick . We shall find them to have been the almost sole abettors of my Lord of Strafford , whilst he was practising upon another Kingdom that manner of Government , which he intended to settle in this , where he committed so many , so mighty , and so manifest Enormities and Oppressions , as the like have not been Committed by any Governour in any Government , since Verres left Sicily . And after they had called him over from being Deputy of Ireland , to be in a manner Deputy of England : All things here being Govern'd by a Juntillo , ( who dare say thus much at this time of day ? ) and that Juntillo Govern'd by him , ( And he Govern'd by I know who ) to have assisted him in giving of such Councels , and the pursuing of such Courses , as it is a hard and measuring Cast , whether they were more Unwise , more Unjust , or more Unfortunate ; and which had Infallibly been our Destruction , if by the Grace of God their share had not been as small in the subtilty of Serpents , as in the Innocency of Doves . Master Speaker , I have represented no small quantity , and no mean degree of Guilt . Tant . Enough , enough of this , I see Whiggish Doctrines , Principles and Practices , grow upon us . Whigg . Do not mistake your self , ( Tory ! ) it is your Tory-Plots and Principles have swell'd of late years to a monstrous Tumour and Deformity , almost to the Consumption of our right and natural Constitution ; and because we make warm Applications sometimes to draw down the Swelling , and let out the Corruption , how you Tantivees Kick and Frisk ? Tant . Kings ( of old ) us'd not to be Bearded nor Brav'd by their Subjects . Whigg . No , there was no Cause for it , but read the History of the Lives of King John , Henry 3. Edw. 1. Edw. 2. what Bickering there was to keep those Kings from encroaching on the Subjects Liberties and Properties , the subject of the great Quarrel , Contest and Battels fought betwixt King and People , in all ( and onely in ) the unhappy Reigns of unhappy Kings , that suffer'd themselves to be Seduc't out of their Faith and Truth , and to outstretch their Prerogatives beyond its Maker and Creator ( the Law ) and outstretch their Consciences and their Oaths , till they broke all to pieces . Tant . Poor feeble Kings ( perhaps ) they were ; Worms soonest grow in soft Wood. Whigg . Were any Kings Fiercer or Stouter than the three first of them ? who more Valiant than Edward 1. or more Victorious against Forreigners ? and if he were weak and feeble , it was only when the Head ( like Children that have the Rickets ) swell'd monstrously and unconscionably , to the starving and Consumption of the whole Body , and inferiour Members , which cannot fare ill , but the Head must ake for it , and feel the smart at long run . Honestly therefore ( if he could have continued so ) did he answer the encroaching Prelates , ( to whom he had Promis'd to give whatever they would ask , and they ask't him to Repeal the Statute of Mortmain ) The King answered , that this was a Statute made by the whole Body of the Realm , and therefore was not in his Power , ( who was but one Member of that Body , ) to undo that which all the Members together had done . Tant . By this Answer he should seem to inferr that He and his People are made all of a piece , of the same Clay . Whigg . Why , what ? dost thou think Kings are not Mortals ? Tant . They are Divine . Whigg . So Tantivees also call themselves , but ( as Alexander the great answered his Flatterers that call'd him a god ) those that emptyed their Close-stools scent no such matter , or extraordinary Hogo beyond other Mortals . Tant . Does not the Text say , Touch not mine Anointed , and do my Prophets no Harm ? Whigg . What of that ? Tant . Then do not you touch Gods Ministers , and Gods Prophets . Whigg . Where are they ? you must first show them to me before I can touch them . Tant . All the Kings Ministers , ( Arch-bishops , Bishops , Arch-deacons , Deans , Parsons , Vicars and Curates ) are all Ministers and Prophets of God. Whigg . And also all Officials , Commissaries , Publick-notaries , Delegates , Surrogates , Vicars general , Apparitors , Proctors , Jaylors and Hangmen , Registers and Summers , are also all the Kings Ministers ; I do not desire to touch them , nor am very ambititious that they should touch me ; from them all , good Lord deliver us , and all good Men. Tant . They meddle not with good men , cannot live by good men , the Hangmen must starve if all were good men , they live by Sinners , they eat eat up Gods People as they eat Bread ; that is , the Sins of Gods People is Meat , and Drink , and Cloath to them . Whigg . Foh ! no more of them . Tant . Thou talk'st like a bold Rebel , and wouldst act like a Rebel ( I fear ) with other Weapons than Prayers and Tears . Whigg . I do not know how such Fools and Knaves as thou art may hap to provoke the old man within me ; 't is at your peril , and you come at your own adventure , but I will rather dye than be a Rebel . Tant . When the Kings Subjects ( in Edw. 2. Reign ) took up Arms to remove evil Counsellors from the King , and the King fled before them , and at length in hopes to preserve his Minion , and the Instrument of his wickedness ( Gaveston ) lodg'd him in an impregnable Hold , Scarborough-Castle , which the Kings Subjects took , and Beheaded poor Pierce Gaveston ; you Whiggs do not call this Rebellion . Whigg . Why ? what Historian does call it so ? I am sure that great Loyalist and Cavalier , Sir Richard Baker , that ( throughout ) writes , leaning on one side , as if he was byas't the wrong way , does not call it Rebellion ; nor is the word Rebellion once mentioned in the late Act of Oblivion , after the happy Return of his Gracious Majesty : But instead of calling it Rebellion ( which old Hodge would have Eccho'd and Mouth'd twice in each line ) Sir Richard Baker's note is , — That while the King was altogether rul'd by Gaveston , and Gaveston himself was altogether irregular , the Common-wealth could have but little of Justice , but was sure to Suffer , as long as Gaveston was Suffered ; and this may be sufficient to Justifie ( mark that ) the Lords , that it be not Interpreted to be Rebellion , which was indeed but Providence . After that , the two Spencers were the new Minions that trod in the very steps of Gaveston , and Seduc't the easie King , Pimps to his Lust , for these onely were his Favourites ; whereupon the People rise , as one man , with the Earls of Hereford and Lancaster ; who confederating by a solemn League and Covenant to live and dye together in maintaining the Right of the Kingdom , and to procure the Banishment of the two Spencers , the great Seducers of the King , and the Oppressors of the State ; and under this pretence they take Arms , and coming armed to St. Albans , they send to the King ( then ) at London , requiring him as he lov'd the quiet of the Realm , to rid his Court of those two Traitors , the Spencers ; Condemn'd in many Articles of High Treason by the Common-wealth ( mark that ) of the Land ; and withall to grant his Letters Patents of Pardon and Indemnity , both to them and such as took part with them . Tory. By that desire of Indemnity they tacitly acknowledg Guilt . Whigg . Yes , against the Letter of the Law , in strict construction , and a Judge and Jury of your Principles , ( Tory , ) it is not safe trusting you , when necessity had forc't them to Courses that otherwise were Illegal ; which yet the Historian calls Providence , not Rebellion . Tant . But did the King Pardon them ? Whigg . Pardon them ? No , I trow , that had been too wise an Action , for such a weak Prince as was that ill-advis'd King. Tant . But prythee what Answer did the King give to the bold Covenanters ? Whigg . He Swore he should never Violate the Oath made at his Coronation , by granting Letters of Pardon to such notorious Offenders , who Contemn'd his Person , Disturb'd the Kingdom , and Violated the Royal Majesty . Tant . Well said , and how did this Answer work upon the armed Confederates ? Whigg . It exasperated them , and presently they March't to London , ( the Citizens being their sure Friends ) and lodged in the Suburbs , 'till they had leive of the King to march into the City , where they again more peremptorily urge their demands . Tant . And what did the King then ? why did he not Hang them all at Tyburn ? Whigg . He could not find Hangmen that would undertake so great a work , besides to Hang them all would be a tedious long work , and long a doing . Tant . What ? did all People hate him , and forsake him ? Whigg . No , they all lov'd him so universally , and wisht him so well , that they also desired he might be quit of his two Diseases ( the two Spencers ) that made the Head ake , and the whole Body sick and ill at ease ; and so at last he yields to their Banishment . But this Kings Goodness and Truth , went and came ( like Ague-fits ) by Paroxismes and intermissions ; no trust in his Word and Promises , for he Consents to their Banishment , onely to hush the present Commotion ; Hugh Spencer the Father was then beyond Sea , and kept himself there , but young Spencer lurk't here and there , hiding himself in England , expecting the turn of a better Season , which soon came about ; for Fortunes-wheel ( to the Comfort of the Afflicted , and terrour of the Prosperous ) never stands still , but is alwayes in Motion and upon the Turn , as in this Kings Reign was frequently demonstrated ; for the next year ( Anno 1322. ) the King defeated the Lords , and Beheaded his Unkle the Earl of Lancaster ; and four years after the Parliament Deposed King Edward , ( or rather ) forc't him to Depose himself and Invest his Son ; which if he refused , they threatned to Chuse a King of another Race , and he was Killed soon after by his Keepers , Gourney and Matrevers , Tarleton Bishop of Hereford writing to them to that effect in doubtful sence , viz. Edvardum occidere nolite timere bonum est ; but they guess'd at his meaning , for that Bishop , Adam Tarleton , had a little before at Oxford Preach't before the Queen and Roger Mortimer , ( her bosom friend ) on this Text , Caput meum doleo , My Head aketh ; whence he inferred , that the Kingdom being now deadly sick of its Head , it was fit to remove that Head and put a sounder in his place ; this was the Loyalty of your Bishop , when Interest , &c. Tant . How did the Queen approve that Doctrine ? Whigg . She did not dislike it , to be sure , but her Minion ( Roger ) like't it well enough , as appeared afterwards . Tant . It was an Impudent Whores-trick of her ; first to make the King a Cuckold , preferring the Love of Mortimer ; and then to Vnking him by Deprivation ; and then to Vnman him , by Murthering him . Whigg . She did not own the Murtherers that did the Deed. Tant . But she did not punish the wicked Bishop that Preach't up the King-killing Doctrine ; and who did give the Murderers also Commission to do it . Whigg . No , he was her chief Favourite-Bishop , and fit for her turn ; but such was the general Hatred to King Edward 2. that he dyed Vnlamented , ( though ( perhaps ) not unpittyed ) he had so disoblig'd his People by espousing two or three unfortunate Minions , and their dependants , before and above his peoples welfare , that ought to have been his chiefest Care. Tant . I protest , though , 't is hard measure , first , to be made a Cuckold , and then by the same Engineers to be Depriv'd , and then Kill'd ; this is worse than what befell the Earl of Essex , ( General of the Parliaments-Forces in — 41. ) First , the Duke of Som — made him a Cuckold , then He and she disparage her Husbands virility , then ( for that reason ) gets her Divorc't from him , ( as not man sufficient : ) And Lastly , to make the Church Father all the escapes , he Legitimates them , by making her an honest woman , and Marrying her . Tory. Not Man sufficient ? sayst thou Parson ! why , what one man is sufficient for a Whore ? if the Church admit that for a sufficient Plea for Divorce , they 'l have as many Customers for that , as they have for Licenses for Marriage . Tant . The better trading for us ; we are men that know our Interest and Advantage , as well as carnal men . Tory. Ay , Ay , who doubts it ? but say , ( Mr. Whigg , ) did the Earl of Essex put up this affront ? Whigg . No , I told you he was the man that first headed the Parliaments forces , that afterwards took more than sufficient Vengeance on the Church , and all that sided or bandyed with her : Manet aliâ mente repostum : Evil Actions carry their furies along with them , Vengeance attends them . For the said Kings unfaithfulness to his People , in breaking his Coronation Oath and Kingly trust , he lost his Peoples Hearts , and cousequently his own Life ; and Roger Mortimer was Kill'd in the Queens Embraces , and both Court and Church suffered in the other Instance . Tant . Did the City of London joyn with the Queen and the Confederates ? Whigg . Yes , and the Londoners to shew their good will to the Queen , and the Confederate Lords , with great despight Beheaded Walter Stapleton Bishop of Exeter , and Lord Treasurer , ( in rancour and hatred to the King ) with many others that they thought lov'd that unhappy King ; his Kingdom as well as himself suffering beyond all Patience , for his Folly and Perfidiousness in breaking his Word , Oath and Royal Trust , and by Gods heavy Judgments and Displeasure , there being in the eighth Year ( of this silly Prince's Reign ) such a Dearth or scarcity of Provisions , that Horses and Dogs were eaten , and Thieves in Prison pluck't in Pieces those that ( were newly brought in and ) had got some flesh of their backs , and eat them them half alive . Tant . Sure that King was an ill-natur'd man. Whigg . No , quite contrary , he was fair of Body , and of great Strength , given much to Drunkenness , but not much to Women ; Kind and Loving , but unfortunate in pitching his Affections upon bad Men and evil Counsellors , which was his Ruine and theirs too . Tory. Some Men are not capable of good advice ; Quos Deus intendit perdere dementat prius : Whom Heaven does Hate , to their own wayes It leaves them ; Then Strips them of their Wits , and then Bereaves them . Whigg . Some thought he deserv'd a better fate than he found , to be Depos'd by his Parliament , and Murther'd by the means of those that made him a Cuckold , or Bishop Tarleton the Court-Pimp to the Queen and Mortimer ; others said , Honi soit qui mal y pense , Let evil befall to evil men . Tory. Well , we have enough of him ; to return to Archbishop Abbot , who told little Doctor Land ( then Bishop of Bath ) in a Conference with him about Sybthorp's Sermon , ( and this Passage therein , viz. All Antiquity to be absolutely for absolute Obedience to Princes , in all civil or temporal things , ) that such Cases ( as Naboth's Vineyard ) may fall within this . Whereupon the little-great-man was as a Man in a Rage , and fell a Huffing , saying , that it was an odious Comparison ; for it must suppose that there must be an Ahab and a Jezabel , and I cannot tell what Sons of Belial for false Witnesses , and a Judge for the nonce , &c. But the Archb — told him , that Reviling and Railing does not answer his Argument : All Antiquity taketh in Scripture , and if there has been an Ahab , or a Jezabel , that which has been , is possible to be again many years hence ; and if ( sayes Doctor Abbot ) I had allowed that Proposition for good , I had been justly beaten with my own Rod : For , if the King the next day had commanded me to send him all the Money and Goods I had , I must by my own Rule have obeyed him ; and if he had commanded the like to all the Clergy-men and Gentlemen , Yeomen and Commons in England , by Sybthorp's Proportion , and my Lord of Canterbury's allowing the same , they must have sent in all , and left their Wives and Children in a miserable Case . Tory. What care the Courtiers for your Wives and Children ? Whigg . True , but the wonder is , that any Englishman that has an Estate ( though he got it by Pimping ) should desire any Tantivee-wayes or Arbitrary-sway , lest he lose it as suddenly . Tant . Or that any of us Clergy-men should be Tantivees , ( you would say ) is a wonder too . Whigg . You say right , but greedy Dogs ( that can never have enough ) so they have but at present to please their rav'ning Appetite , they gulp and swallow all , but never consider how it will Digest or do them good . Tory. Nay , It is impossible to do them good , for it never digests or breeds good blood , but bad humours in abundance , that overflowes them , if it do not stick in their Throats at the first going down , as many times it does , and choaks them before they taste the Sweetness of their Morsels , the Reward of their ( Spaniel-like ) fawning and Sycophantry . Whigg . I am glad to hear this from you , Mr. Tory. Tant . So am not I , if Toryes leave Tantivees to shift for themselves , what will become of us , losing our main Props ? Whigg . Then make use of your Main-sail , and Skud over the Water , where you all strive to be , and whither you seem to drive might and main ; for Popery and Arbitrary Government are Inseperable , at least , Arbitrary Plants cannot thrive in England except they be water'd and besprinkled with Popish Exorcismes and Holy-water : Some Bishops of the Church of England have said that there is but a very little little difference betwixt Popery and us ; our Holy-dayes , our Service ( in English , theirs in Latine ) but word for word in most parts thereof , our Priests Vestments , Church-musick , Candles , Altars , Bowing , Cringing , the very same . Tant . Right , but we have not Auricular Confession , nor hold we Transubstantiation . Whigg . You mean you cannot perswade the People to come to Auricular-Confession ; but for the real presence many Preach it up , but by a distinction Metaphysical , ( a distinction without a difference ) they only deny the corporal presence . Tant . So , then you 'l say we differ therein from the Papists only in nice words and terms of distinction . Whigg . If it be more than words wherein you differ in this point , then that thing you bow to at the Altar is really nothing , for if it be a real thing , it is a corporeal thing , if it take up its residence in one place of the Church more than the other , and on the Altar and the East , more than on the Pulpit and the West ; Nay , some Preachers that Bow very reverently to the Altar at Service-time , turn their Back-sides to it all the while they are Preaching very undecently ; if there be something there to be reverenc't more than on the North , West , or South-side , where no Altars are . Tant . You are a Perillous Whigg . Whigg . And you are either a fool for bowing to nothing constantly , or a Papist in heart for bowing to some real thing that takes up its Lodging on the Altar , in the East , which as yet you dare not name . Tant . Then you would make us believe that between the two Religions there went but a pair of Shears . Whigg . Far be it from me to say so , but between some of the Priests and Bishops of the two Religions , there has scarce gone so much ; ( as the Lord Faulkland said , ) It is all that a good Living or 1500 l per annum can do , to keep some of them from declaring themselves openly and professedly to be Papists ; these Fellowes never speak of the worst , the darkest , the blackest , the bloodyest Superstition in the World , under the known name of Popery , Papists , &c. but ( mildly and gently ) they only call it the Church of Rome , the Catholicks , &c. and if sometimes they call them Romanists and Roman Catholicks , they think ( if it were overheard ) all hopes of further Preferment is almost defunct ; as if Roman was a needless Epithite , and as if none were Catholicks in the World but only that barbarous and bloody Sect , because ( like the Devil in the Possessed ) their Name is Legion , for that they are many and numerous ; ( more is the pity ) yet , ( blessed be God ) if you go to tell Noses in Europe , or all the World over , Protestants are the major part , as well as the better part ; though you throw to the Papists side all our Tantivees into the bargain ; Come , come , Rome loses ground every day , let the Pope , the Jesuits and the Devil do what they can in Combination , I told you , they have got but one Main-pillar , and that is crazy and rotten almost , as great a blunder as they keep . Tant . Why do you think we shall not carry all before us ? Whigg . Yes , you will ( some of you at least ) be advanc't as high as Haman , if the learned Mr. Selden Prophecyed true ; for when Doctor Worral Chaplain to the Bishop of London Licensed Sybthorp's said Sermon , he scratch't his Name out , and suffered not so much as any Sign of the Letters of his Name to remain on the Paper , by advice of Mr. Selden , to whose better Judgment , and for further advice he sent Sybthorp's Pamphlet ( call'd a Sermon ) after he had Licens'd it : but Mr. Selden said to him , What have you done ? you have allowed a strange Book yonder , which if it be true , there is no Meum or Tuum , no man in England hath any thing of his own ; if ever the Tyde turn ( as it did with a Vengeance to the Toryes and Tantivees ) you will be Hang'd for Publishing such a Book . But what the Chaplain ( upon second thoughts ) would not do , his Master ( the Bishop of London ) did , Licensing the same with his own hand , the good man being not willing that any thing should stick with him that came recommended from the Court. Tant . From the Court or Queen , what skills it ? I commend him , the same Bishop also Licensed a Book , called The Seven Sacraments , with all its Errors , made by Doctor Cosens , Bishop Laud's Confident , and yet neither he nor any of them did ever declare themselves to be Papists openly . Whigg . No , no , I know it , they were the wiser ; neither did Mountague , whom they all upheld and advanc'd , and yet he made the Church of England a Schismatick ; if the Church of Rome be a true Church , and alwayes kept the Faith , as Mountague asserts , and the said Bishops did abett him , and Preferr'd him , and so did the D. of Buckingham , magnifying him as a well Deserving man ; and when the King ( Charles 1. ) was Marryed to his Queen , ( a Daughter of France , ) Letters were sent to the High Commission-Court and other Courts , to suspend and take off all Execution of the Laws against Papists ; then by Proclamation ( upon the Parliaments Remonstrance ) a quite contrary Command was published under the broad Seal of England ; and after the Parliament was Dissolved , then all the Popish-Priests , fourteen or fifteen at a time , are set at Liberty again : such great variation of the Compass was found in the same Climat and Longitude ; sometimes the Laws being put in Execution at a force-put , and then again slackning the Reins and following natural inclination . Tant . What Opinion had Archbishop Abbot of those times and those Transactions ? Whigg . When the allowance of Sybthorp's Pamphlet was put upon him , he said , He had some reason out of the grounds of that Sermon , that the Duke had a Purpose to turn upside down the Laws , and the whole Fundamental Courses and Liberties of the Subject , and to leave us not under the Statutes and Customs which our Progenitors enjoyed , but to the pleasure of Princes . Tant . That is brave , it is al-a-mode d' France ; but when the Duke was Stabb'd , did the same Arbitrary Courses go on ? Whigg . Yes , Loans and Monopolies , Privy Seals and such Projects were continued , and some say the Earl of Strafford begun to assess Souldiers upon the People that would not pay his Arbitrary demands in Ireland , chiefly to make way the better for the like Project other-where ; yet he was a wise man , and a right Englishman ( once ) 'till he became infected afterwards with Ambition and Court , the fate and occasion of the Ruine of Bishop Laud as well as of him , and of one more of more worth than both of them : Besides — ( Said the Archbishop Abbot ) Now it came in my heart , that I was present at the Kings Coronation , where many things on the Princes part were , solemnly Promised , which being observed would keep all in order , and the King should have a loving and gracious People , and the Commons a kind and gracious King : But I am loth to plunge my self over head and ears in these difficulties , ( the Loans , &c. ) that I can neither live with quietness of Conscience , nor depart out of the World with good Fame and Estimation : And perhaps my Soveraign if he looked well into this Paradox , would of all the World hate me , because one of my Profession , Age and Calling would deceive him , and with base Flattery swerve from the Truth . Tant . Then you think that the Kings Minions ( Buckingham , Laud and Strafford ) were the Kings greatest Enemies , and that of all the World he had most Cause to hate them . Whigg . No doubt on 't , if their Councels came out of their own Heads , or was not rather Instill'd and put into their Heads , by — I know who — Tory. Oh! I apprehend you . Whigg . But whether it be the Devil or man that possesseth men with evil , the Sinners that received the Temptation , ( the Baits of Ambition and Avarice ) as they are Instruments of wonderful Mischief and Blood , ought to pay dear for their Sycophantry . Tant . Pay dear , ( do you say ? ) Strafford and Laud lost their Heads on Tower-hill , and Buckingham was Stabb'd at Portsmouth by Felton , ( you said ; ) But you did not tell me what mov'd him to this bloody Fact. Whigg . Felton neither fled for it , nor denyed the Deed , but said he Killed him for the Cause of God and his Countrey ; and when it was replyed , that the Surgeons said there might be hopes of his Life , Felton answered and said , It is impossible , I had the force of forty men assisted by him that guarded my Hand : that he did not kill him for any private Interest whatsoever , that the late Remonstrance of Parliament published the Duke so odious , that he appeared to him deserving Death , which no Justice durst Execute . Tant . But ( we say ) seldom comes a better . Whigg . Nay , there was not much to choose , for the same Councils were still carryed on , so that the Duke was not look't upon as the Original , but rather an Instrument to execute Perplext Counsels ; and when he was Kill'd there wanted not others that would venture in his room , though all History tells us , those little by-wayes and illegal wayes prove as fatal now a-dayes as of old , ( in the dayes of Gaveston and the two Spencers , Suffolk , &c. ) There was a Paper found tack't in the Crown of Mr. Felton's Hat , which was to show that his Conscience was satisfyed in the Fact , and that he was therewith well pleased , lest he had been presently hewed in Pieces without Opportunity to tell the World so much ; but by the Pious endeavours of some men , he was brought to some Remorse , and to acknowledge the Fact damnable without Gods great Mercy ; but denyed that the Puritans or any other set him on , or knew of his Purpose : but Bishop Laud told him , if he would not Confess who set him on , that he must go to the Rack ; he replyed , he knew not whom he might Accuse , perhaps Bishop Laud or any other in that Torture ; and the Judges agreed — that by Law he could not be Rack't nor Tortured ; but Felton proffer'd his Hand to be cut off , which the King desired might be done , but the Judges said it could not be by Law , but after he was dead , he was Hang'd in Chains . Tant . But who got the Duke's Place ? Whigg . Places ( you should say ) for many were enrich't by this single Wrack ; yet after the Duke's Death the King seem'd to take none into favour so much as Doctor Land , ( then Bishop of London ) and Sequestrator of the Profits of the Archbishoprick of Canterbury ; for Dr. Abbot was ( civilly ) dead , and four years after he really dyes , to the desir'd Advancement of Dr. Laud to that Archbishoprick , having long waited for the happy hour before it came . Tant . But was Tunnage and Poundage continued without Authority of Parliament ? Whigg . Yes , and Mr. Chambers his Goods to the value of 5000 l was seized for a pretended Duty of 200 l Custom ; the like Seizure on the Goods of Mr. Vassall , Mr. Rolls , and many others ; and the Attorney General exhibited an Information against Mr. Samuel Vassal , seting forth that King James did by his Letters Pattents , command the taking the said Customs , and that his Majesty , ( Charles 1. ) by the advice of the Privy Councel , did declare his will and pleasure , for the said Subsidies , Customs , &c. until it might receive a settling by Parliament . Tant . What did Mr. Vassal Plead to this ? Whigg . He Pleaded Magna Charta and the Statute De Tallageo non Concedendo , &c. to which Plea the Attorney General Demurred in Law , and the Barous of the Exchequer did absolutely deny to hear Mr. Vassals Council to argue for him . Tant . That was brave upon our side . Whigg . And yet the King in his Speech to both Houses in the Banqueting-house confess 't he did not challenge Tunnage and Poundage as of right . Tant . If not of right , how then ? Whigg . De bene esse , and of necessity , because he could not want it , nor stay till the Par 〈…〉 ent was minded to give it him . Tant . That is a mighty pretty reason , in justification ; when 12 years together he call'd no Parliament . Whigg . And soon after the King sent a Message to the House of Commons speedily to take Tunnage and Poundage into consideration . Tant . And how did the Commons like that Message ? Whigg . They were disgusted that the Bill should be Imposed upon them , which ought naturally to arise from themselves , impowering a Committee to examine the violation of Liberty and Property since the last Session of Parliament , and then resolv'd in the next place to proceed in matters of Religion , and particularly against the Sect of Arminians . And ( sayes Mr. Pym ) two Diseases there be ( Mr. Speaker ) the one Old , the other New , the old , Popery , the new , Arminianism . Concerning Popery three things to be enquired : 1. The Cessation of the Execution of the Laws against Papists . 2. How the Papists have been employed and countenanced in great places of trust . 3. The Law violated ( mark that , Parson ! ) in bringing of Superstitious Ceremonies amongst us , as at Durham by Mr. Cozens , Angels , Crucifixes , Saints , Altars , Candles on Candlemas-day burnt in the Church after the Popish manner . Tant . That was only because — since the Papists would not meet us , we would try how far we can go towards Rome and yet be Church of England men . Whigg . Ay , you Tantivees are subtle fellows in Ecclesiastical Policy , nay , and ( likewise ) in State-Policy , your hand is in in every dish , there is nothing comes amiss to you , you are so equally accomplisht for Heaven and Earth ; you are clearly of Opinion to have your Church Triumphant here , as well as hereafter , you have the luck of it , in comparison of Christ and his Apostles . Tant . We are Prudent as Serpents , and are commanded so to be . Whigg . And also like Serpents to lick the Dust and other mens Spittle , in Prospect of Advancement : And the manners of the Bishops was so notorious to that young Prince of famous Memory ( King Edw. 6. ) that in his Diary with his own hand-writing , was found this Observation concerning the Bishops of his time , namely , That some for Sloath , some for Age , some for Ignorance , some for Luxury , and some for Popery , were unfit for Discipline and Government . Tant . Come — no more of them ; what became of the Tunnage and Poundage ? Tory. The Committee ( in debate ) inclined , that the Merchants have ( first ) their Goods restored which were taken from them against Law , and against Right , and the Proceedings against the Refusers null'd in the Exchequer and Star-Chamber , before they would enter upon the Bill for Tunnage . For ( quoth Mr. Noy ) we cannot safely give unless we be in Possession , for it will not be a Gift but a Confirmation , neither will I give 'till a removal of these Interruptions . Whigg . Ay , Noy and Sir Thomas Wentworth were right Englishmen , but ambitious , and the King was advis'd to take them off by Preferment , and he did so , Noy being made Attorney General , and the first Projector of Ship-money , but he dyed soon after ; but his Project did ( but a little while ) out-live him , and then it was Damn'd by the same King that promoted it ( in 16 Car. 1.14 . ) and All the Writs ( called Ship-writs ) and the Proceedings of the Judges thereupon , as utterly against the Law of the Land , the Right of Property , the Liberty of the Subjects , former Resolutions in Parliament , and the Petition of Right , made but in the third year of that King. Tant . How should we know the Law , if the Judges erre ? Whigg . There is none so blind as they that will not see , do not we see how great places make men warp , and stand awry ? like high Steeples that are too lofty to be upright . Tant . All are not so warpt . Whigg . No , God forbid they should , Judge Hatton and Judge Crook escap't the general Contagion and Infection . Tant . But what became of this same Tunnage and Poundage ? Whigg . The King Dissolv'd the Parliament when they would not give it him , ( but as they list , ) and after that in the Interval of Parliament took it , and Imprisoned ( by Warrants from the Council ) were Denzil Hollis Esquire , Sir Miles Hobert , Sir John Eliot , Sir Peter Hayman , John Selden Esquire , William Coriton , Walter Long , William Stroud , and Benjamin Valentine , Parliament men . Tant . And how long lasted that Interval of Parliaments ? Whigg . Above twelve years ( namely ) from March Anno Domini 1628. until April 13. 1640. which lasted but twenty dayes , his Majesty Dissolving them also , ( for they went on in the old Story ) looking back since the last Parliament , at the Grievances which were as numerous as intollerable ; but the King found it necessary to call another Parliament , which met November 3. 1640. and did the strange things you have heard . Tant . Sure the People were mad , stark mad in — 40. and 41. Whigg . Oppression makes Wise men mad . Tant . Did not Addresses come from all parts to thank the King for Dissolving the Parliaments so fast ? Whigg . No such matter , for the people were so enraged when the Parliament was Dissolved 1628. ( attributing it to the D. of Buckingham ) that they would ordinarily utter these words : Let Charles and George do what they can , The Duke shall dye like Doctor Lamb. Tant . How dyed Doctor Lamb ? Whigg . The Boyes , ordinary People and the Rabble beat him and bruised him , and left him for dead , falling on him as he walk't through the Old-Jury , calling him the Duke's Conjurer . Tant . But when the Duke was Stabb'd , who did they blame for the Dissolution of the Parliament ? Whigg . Who ? who but the powerful men at Court ? especially Bishop Laud , some few dayes after two Libels being found in the Dean of Paul's Yard to this effect ; Laud , look to thy self , be assured thy Life is sought , as thou art the Fountain of Wickedness , repent of thy monstrous Sins before thou be taken out of the World , and assure thy self , neither God nor the World can endure such a vile Councellor or Whisperer to live . The other was as bad against the Lord Treasurer Weston . Tant . What , he that you say dyed a profest Papist ? Whigg . The same . Tant . But Bishop Laud dyed of the Church of England . Whigg . Yes , yes ; It is better to be the Arch or Chief of the Clergy of England , and chief Favourite Also , than to be the Second at Rome ; and he very fairly refused a Cardinal's cap which was proffer'd him : and I believe he was no more a Papist ( in heart ) than I am ; what he did in complyance with Popery , and Popish Ceremonies , was only in complacence to — you know who . — Tory. The more blame-worthy , to act against his little Conscience ; as appear'd by the then Favourites , for Strafford , Noy , Laud , &c. untill Preferment dazel'd them , and height made them Vertiginous and Turn-sick , were as steddy Protestants and English-men as any . Whigg . Ay , Ay ; the Devil knew what he did when he proffer'd our Saviour the Kingdoms of the World , shewing the glory of them , tempting him : as if , they had need be assisted by Divinity who are Temptation-proof . Tant . Right ; for onely Divines are temptation-proof . Whigg . True ; none are Temptation-proof but those that are true Divines , in Reality , not Divines ( that are such ) in Name onely ; or such that lay heavy burdens on others , but will not touch them themselves with one of their fingers ; or , such as preach Prayers and Tears onely to other Christians , whilest they themselves tear and rend with the Civil Sword , curses instead of prayers , and instead of tears , rant it with blood and wounds . Tory. You think the Laws are the onely as well as the best Boundaries to keep King and People within their just limits and duty . Whigg . Right : The Rules of Justice or the Laws are the Hercules Pillars , or the nè plus ultra , to King and People ; to the Kings Prerogative , and the Peoples Liberties ; as they are the Hercules Pillars , so they are the Pillar to every Hercules , to every Prince ; which if he pass , he goes into the vast Ocean , the Lord knowes whither ; for no body knowes what will be the End and Issue of such dismal wandring . Therefore the old Rule of Law is — Solum Rex hoc non potest facere , quod non potest justè agere ; The King can do nothing but what he can Legally do : Therefore Antiochus King of Asia sent his Letters and Missives to all his Provinces , That if they received any Dispatches in his Name , not agreeable to Law and Justice ; Ignoto se literas esse scriptas ideoque iis non parerent ; he disclaim'd the same , as not being his Act and deed , though attested under the Broad-Seal . Tory. But suppose ( at a Bone-fire on a Thanksgiving Night ) such a Whigg as you pass by , and will not drink the Kings Health , or the Dukes Health , and I break your head , Whigg . Whigg . Then , you are a Ryotor , and the Magistrates ought to punish you accordingly , and in my own defence I may lawfully Knock your Pate again , Tory , to get out of your clutches . Tory. That might occasion Knocking-work . Whigg . Have a care then that you keep the Kings-Peace , and do not dye as a Fool dyeth ; for he that makes the assault , ( the Aggressor ) must be responsible for all the mischief that ensues from his own wickedness , and villanously-bold attempt in stopping the Kings Subjects , and setting upon them with violence , in the Kings High-way walking peaceably by them . Tory. There is none but a Rebell will refuse the King or Dukes Health . Whigg . There is none but a drunken Coxcomb will say so : besides , 't is expressely against His Majesties Proclamation publisht Against forcing of Healths down mens Throats , whether they will or no. Tory. Wee , for the King , will Drink and Whore , It showes our Loyalty the more . Whigg . Ay , such Loyalty has done wonders ; wonderful Mischief ; and the Kings Friends were his greatest Enemies and Traytors , and most guilty Laesae Majestatis . Tory. How prove you that ? Whigg . Infallibly , by the Premises , for if the King can do no wrong , and can onely do that that Legally and justly he may do , then , 1. Tunnage and Poundage without Authority of Parliament ; 2. Money for Knights Fees or , lest you should be made a Knight ; 3. Loans and Privy Seals , Benevolences and Monopolies ; 4. Billeting of Souldiers ; 5. Ship-money , and Ship-writs ; 6. Imprisonment and seizures for refusing to pay those illegal Taxes ; were none of ( them ) the Kings Act and deed , though in his Name , and under his Seal . Tant . That 's strange ; why , ( man ! ) the return of the Cause of their Commitment ( upon their Habeas Corpus ) was this , Per speciale mandatum domini Regis , that the Prisoners were Committed by the special Command of the King himself , and so the Council Order'd . Whig . That 's Braze : Good Councellors will take upon themselves harsh things , and leave the King the Honour and Thanks of our Acts of Grace and Goodness ; but this invests all the order of true Politicks ; Mercy and Goodness , only naturally and immediately flow from the Throne ; Justice from the Ministers : Therefore the Sword is carried before him , but the Scepter in his Hand . Tory. Ay , but it was advised , that the Calling of a Parliament : ( being pleasing to the People and obliging ) should be given out to be at the motion of Buckingham ; Ay , Ay , But when it was Dissolv'd , the King did it in his own Person ; as well as by his Prerogative : But has the King such a Prerogative to Adjourn , Hold , and Dissolve Parliaments at pleasure ? Whig . King Charles often told the Parliament so , saying , as before , in pag. 23. Remember that Parliaments are altogether in my Power , for their Calling , Sitting and Dissolution ; therefore as I find the fruits of them good or Evil , they are to continue or not to be . Tory. By his Prerogative , the Law of Parliaments is wholly at the Kings Will , and in his breast ; For grievances intoiierable ( as aforesaid ) many and great , in false Imprisonment , false Seizures , false Subsidies , all illegal were yearly and daily inflicted in the Kings Name , and by his Authority upon the Bodies and Estates of the King's Subjects , no man was sure of holding either liberty or property longer than the good pleasure ; these grievances were contrary to Law , Equity , Justice , Equity , Reason , and the Stipulation Oath and Acts : these grievances ought not to have been ; or , if by evil Councellours , and evil Ministers , and wicked men they happened , the King ought to have remedied and redrest them , instead of abetting and defending the Oppressors of his Subjects , and the violators of those Laws , that he was sworn to uphold and obey ; and ought to have lookt upon these Vsurpations of his Subjects Rights , and the Vsurpers as the greatest Enemies of his Throne , which ( Solomon says ) is only established by Justice ; not by Pilling and Polling , Robbing or Defrauding the harmless People . And the King should have look't upon the Parliament ( that desired to redress the Grievances and to cure these griefes and distempers of the State ) as his best Friends , and should have blest God that he had a Prerogative to Call them and keep them together for so blessed a work ; and not to threaten to Dissolve them ; if they will not give him more Money , and if they will not forbear to punish those grand Delinquents that had so shamefully abused the King , by abusing his Subjects , his Justice , his Oath , his Royal Word , and Promises , his Conscience and his Laws . Tory. Bracton says , that although the Common Law doth allow many Prerogatives to the King , yet it doth not allow any that he shall wrong or Hurt any by his Prerogative . Tant . By that Rule a King has no Prerogative ( it seems ) to Dissolve a Parliament for medling with Redress of Grievances , or the punishment of the Evil Instruments and Ministers that caus'd or councell'd them . Whig . I will not be so bold to define the Kings Prerogative , ( let it be for ever Sacred ) otherwise than as we describe Divinity ; ( Negatively ) rather telling what it is not , than what it is . First , The King has no Prerogative to hurt himself , or his People , nor yet to break his Laws , or dispense with a Statute , nor to violate his Conscience , his Word , nor his Oath . For Rex merito debet retribuere legi quia lex tribuit ei , facit enim lex , quod ipse sit Rex , says Bracton : The King may well give the Law its free course , due unto it , because the Law gives him his due : For the Law makes him ( what he is ) a King. Rex enim , a bene Regendo : The King is so called from Ruling well , but he is called a Tyrant that Oppresses . Secondly , The Kings Oath is not only to Rule according to Law , but to make new , and abrogate old Laws , which cannot be without a Parliament ; therefore Parliament ; therefore Parliaments are a Fundamental and Vital part , and constitution of the Government . Thirdly , If a King can chuse whether he will Call a Parliament at all , except once in three years , and then send them Home and Dissolve them , as he list and when he list , without Redress of Grievances ; then the fundamental Constitution and Law of the Government must be Lame and Imperfect : For , at this rate , the Prince and his Ministers may do what they list , and impune make their Wills a Law : But it is impossible that a Government ( so wisely Constituted as ours is ) should be so lame , imperfect and deficient , as not to make Provision for its own Being and Subsistance in the Fundamentals : This therefore is provided for in the very Essence of the Government ( which we may call the Common-Law ) which is of more value than any Statute ; and of which Magna Charta and other Statutes are but Declaratory . Fourthly , Tho' the King is Trusted with the formal part of Summoning and pronouncing the Dissolution of Parliaments , yet the Law which obliges both him and us , has determined and ascertained how and when he shall do it . Tant . Ay , ( marry ) Whigg ! now you come close , let us hear that . Whig . I 'le prove it clearly and evidently by Common-Law and Statute-Law , Reason and Equity ; and these four do guide or should guide all the Benches in Westminster-Hall . Tory. If you can do this , it will prove very Beneficial to all ; for I observ'd that , in the late Civil Wars , the cause of the great Bloodshed was the difference betwixt the Kings Prerogative and the Peoples Liberties ; which could not be decided , ( it seems ) but by the Sword. Whig . It is better far to decide the difference with a Pen ; but indeed the Kings Prerogative and the Peoples Liberties never clash , but there is a sweet Harmony betwixt them , one with another , one supporting and upholding another , not destroying and ruining one another ; as some Juncto Councils would make them . Tory. We ( Tories ) Fought for the Prerogative Royal. Whig . Then you Fought for you did not know what . Tory. Yes , the Loans , Privy-Seals , Tunnage and Poundage , Ship-Money , &c. and Seizures and Imprisonment ( thereupon ) were all against Law , Law , and against the Peoples Liberties and Properties , but the King did act by his Royal Prerogative , and so took the Goods and Imprisoned the Gentlemen that refus'd ; by Prerogative . Whig . The King has no Prerogative wrongfully to Imprison or take mens Goods : to Imprison men , is a work for the Kings Ministers of Justice , but below the Grandeur of Royal Majesty to do it , or , to give order for it , other than that as all the Execution of the Kings Laws is to be done in his Name , though he personally know nothing of the matter : And if the King ore tenus , or in writing , command John a Nokes to Imprison John a Styles , without mentioning any cause in Law , ( or breach of some Law that requires Imprisonment ; an Action of false Imprisonment lyes against John a Nokes , and he shall not be suffered ( in his excuse and justification ) to plead — speciale mandatum Regis , that the King Commanded it ; but must set forth some other special matter ; for if that might be admitted , the King , who cannot with a word take away my Pence , my Horse , nor my Asse ; yet he might destroy with a Breath ( that which is much Dearer to me ) my Liberty . Tory. You speak Reason , and Law too ; but may not the King Invade his Subjects Liberties and Properties , in Cases of Necessity , by his Royal Prerogative ? Whig . Pish ; The Favourites ( Buckingham and Laud , &c. ) as you have heard before destroyed the Kings Fleet , consumed the Kings Men and Money , Ships and Ammunition , by Senseless and Vnhappy Expeditions , and sometimes by Lending them to France , in a time when we had more need to Borrow , and by such Whimzees ( but the Parliament gave it a worse name , calling them , Treasons ) they reduc'd the King and Kingdom into great Straits , weakness and necessities ( which was the design of the Popish Plot , the Favourites were only the Instruments , and perhaps saw not what they did ) But they did so many Irrational , Senseless and Destructive Acts , that almost all lay at Stake ( as you have heard ) and was just upon the go : What must be done ? That was the Question , in these Necessities and Straits ? To call a Parliament , was the proper , natural , true , certain , and only English Remedy . Tory. Ay , so it was ; I must needs say . Whig . Well , and so the King found ( too late ) but the Minions had done such unanswerable things , that in all their Consultations they did ( as all Private Councellors do ) stear their course with an Eye and main respect to their own particular Safeties and welfare , and not to the general good , welfare and Salvation of the Ship of the Commonwealth , that they guided , at the Helm ; and they were so Conscious of their own wickedness ; that the Earl of Strafford ( very prudently foreseeing his own destruction when the Parliament was called ) humbly craves excuse from attending it , chusing rather to stay with his Army in the North. Tory. He had nothing else to trust to but an Army and Force ; for by Force and an Army he Ruled in Ireland , and nothing but the same methods could possibly preserve him , nor ( indeed ) any Tyranny and Oppression . Whig . True , Violence only can justify Violence ; not could his sins be safe but by attempting greater ; yet , he had something else to Trust to besides an Army . Tant . What , I pray ? let me hear that . Whig . The Royal Word , and the Promise of a King , who , to perswade him to come to the Parliament , ( besides the Peremptory Command that would take no denyal or excuse , but come he must ) the King engaging and promising , that as he was King of England , he was able to secure him from any danger , and that the Parliament should not touch one Hair of his Head. Tant . But they did reach every Hair of his Head , and the Head also , the King also Passing the Bill : But what said the Earl when he first heard that the King had past the Bill against him ; as in a Complemental Letter he gave him leave . Whig . He held up his Hands , ( as Coleman did at the Gallows when he saw he must go to it , not using the very words that Coleman did , There is no Truth in men , but ) to the same Tune , lift up his Eyes to Heaven , and laying his Hand on his Heart , said , — Put not you Trust in Princes , nor in the Sons of men , for in them there is no Salvation . Tant . Ay , Coleman indeed was left in the Lurch , some thought by his last words . And thus , the Devil Huggs the Witch ; But , at the Gallows , leaves the Wretch , To the Embrace of Squire Ketch ; Laughing when her Neck does Stretch , That he her Soul to Hell may Fetch . Tory. But what said King Charles in his own excuse ? For giving up Strafford contrary to Promise ? Whig . He was Sorry for it , but it could not be help'd , it was so lately done ; but the King ( nevertheless ) sent a Letter by the Prince to the Lords , written with his own Hands , Intreating them that they would Confer with the House of Commons to spate the Life of the Earl , and that it would be a high Contentment to him . Tant . And what did the Lords thereupon ? Whig . Just nothing at all , as to sparing his Life ; but so confirm'd the King , that he said also Fiat Justitia : But the King in a Speech ( a little before ) he Signed the Bill of Attainder against the Earl , told both the Houses of Parliament ; that in Conscience he could not Condemn the Earl of High Treason , that he Answered for , as to the most of the main particulars of the Charge against him . Tory. Ay , ay , the Earl did not , durst not have attempted such things as he did , if some body had not been privy to it besides himself . Whig . The King also told the two Houses , ( at the same time , ) that neither Fear , nor any other respect should make him go against his Conscience . Tant . But it seems his Royal Resolution was Changeable . Whig . Yes , and yet he was naturally constant to his Opinions , and Tenacious of them , some thought even to Offence sometimes : But the Crimes against the Earl's Arbitrary Government , Arbitrary Sway , Arbitrary Councels , Arbitrary Force , Arbitrary Taxes , and Ruling by an Army , and making his Will his Law was so Apparent , that the fault mustly upon some body , and upon whom more fit , than upon such an evil Instrument , and evil Councellor , as Strafford was , whom the very King himself could not deny to be guilty ( as he publickly acknowledged to both Houses in his Speech aforesaid ) of such Misdemeanors , that he thought the Earl not fit to serve him or the Commonwealth , in any place of Trust , no not so much as a Constable ; and concluded his said Letter , with these words : If no less than his Life can satisfie my people , I must say — Fiat Justitia ; which words he repeated , when the Lords in Answer to his Majesties said Letter , denyed to spare his Life , as unsafe for the King and Royal Family . Tory. I am clear too of Opinion , that either the King was privy to his Misdemeanors before that time ( as the King intimated as aforesaid ) or else he and all other Kings may think the better of Parliaments as long as they live , for representing men in their true colours , and letting them see that the Persons and chief Favourites , Admirals and Generals of their Armies , and when they trust ( as King Charles did Strafford ) with the management of their chief Affairs , are really and truly such wretches , that they are not fit for the meanest Trust , no , not so much as worthy to be Petty Constable . Whig . That Dilemma is unanswerable . Tant . But , Prythee , ( Whigg ! ) what Opinion had men , in those days , of the Court , as to Arbitrary Government , Popery , or Affection to Popery ? Whig . Men strangely differ'd in Opinion ( in those days as now ) which bred that great difference amongst men , as ( it seems ) was not to be decided without Blood , great unnatural , and uncivil Bloodshed . Tory. We , ( that were Cavaliers , ) believed the King , when he took the Sacrament upon it , and pass'd so many Acts of Parliaments against Popery and Papists , and promis'd to proceed Vigorously against Papists ; and that he also did abhor the Thoughts of Arbitrary Government : Really we believ'd so many Oathes , Sacraments , Vowes , and Royal Words and Promises , publick and private Declarations and Proclamations . Whig . Ay , ay , so you did ; we Whiggs , too have a great deal of Faith , if we let upon a belief , we will not to our own Eyes give Credit ; we are for Implicite Faith sometimes , as well as you . Tory. Well , but Answer to the purpose was not the King counted a Gracious good King ? Whig . Yes , all Kings are called so , especially whilst they Live and to their Heads ; for a King can do no wrong : And all men acknowledged that King Charles I. of his own Natural Temper was inclined to Goodness , and Mercy , and Justice , and Righteousness ; and the keeping of Faith with men , and observing his Word , fulfilling his Promises , and keeping stedfast to Religion ; and therefore , they think that he knew nothing of the matter , when Popish-Books , or Books in Favour of Popery , ( as Mountagues Book aforesaid ) and the Authors of such Books ; and the Books for Arbitrary Government , and the Authors of them ( Sybthorp aud Manwaring ) were the men and the Books , the Tenents , Doctrines and Opinions that were prefer'd , advanc'd , extoll'd , cry'd up and Countenanc'd at Court above all other men and Books , were really Orthodox , and according to Law ; nay , some think the King knew not that Mountague and Manwaring were not only Pardon'd but made Bishops ; since the Parliament had judg'd them unmeet for their demerits ( which no man in England durst publickly own or vindicate to this day ) and vile wretchedness and false Doctrines , to be uncapable of the meanest Benefices ; yet these must be the chief Shepheards , the Flocks were like to be well govern'd ; and Bishop Land that abetted and Countenanc'd the said Authors and Books , Licensed their false Doctrines , and impure as well as Illegal Principles , and got their Books Licensed , was made Archbishop , and who but he ? with the King and Court ? The King knew nothing of all this , nor that Papists ( great Papists ) were put into Commission all the Kingdom over ; nor , that Arbitrary Government in Loanes , Knighthood-Money , Tunnage and Poundage , Ship-Money , Assessing and Billeting of Souldiers , &c. The King knew nothing of all this ; these were Deeds , Deeds , not Words ; Deeds that made the Kingdom groan , Deeds that Affrighted the Parliament and the Kings best Subjects with too much cause of Jealousies and Fears of Popery and Arbitrary Government , when it was really practic'd in so many particulars , and the Councellors and Favorites that abetted the same , the only men in Favour ; and nothing was said against them in Parliament , but it prov'd the ruine of the men , though Parliament-men , that might Parler le ment , speak their minds freely , and lawfully , and also prov'd to be the Dissolution of those Parliaments ; 'till the Kings Necessities and Straits were so great , and the Dissolutions so frequent , and on the strange occasions aforesaid , that the Parliament would do nothing , 'till the King not only had Promis'd ( but had granted it by Statute ) that they should not be Dissolv'd but by their own Consent . Tory. It is the greatest wonder in the world to me that any King should Dissolve a Parliament but by their own Consent , or 'till all Grievances be Redress'd ; for the King is Pater Patriae the Father of the Country , and what an odd Humour is it , if a Father that has a Child or Children , troubled with griefs or Grievances , and had a Prerogative that could but would not remedy them ; nay , nor suffer them that would remedy his Children ; is this Father like ? or like something else ? The King is the chief Shepheard of his People , his Flock ; but what an odd humour is it , if a Shepheard , when he sees Doggs and Wolves tear and rend his Sheep , shall neither ( according to the duty of his place ) deliver his Sheep out of their Jaws ; nor yet suffer others to do it ; but , contrarily , side with the Doggs , and defend the Worried Sheep ? much more , if he see the Currs on , worse , if he shall go Snips in the Booty and Prey . Whigg . I am glad to hear this of you , ( Mr. Tory ! ) you have been us'd to Language that has less of Sense , Reason or Law in it . Tant . But all this while ( Mr. Whigg ) you do not tell us any thing in Answer to this excuse the Favourites made , namely , Necessity , the Kings necessities required that which ( indeed ) ought not to be done by Law. Whig . Necessity ? Pish ! this excuse aggravates their Offence ; for thus they dispute in a Carcle , and justify their wickedness by greater , by links and chains of evil consequences ; First , the Kings Affairs by their Evil Councel and Managements is brought into Straits and Necessities , the effect of them , then these evil effects are made the Cause of the continuance of worse effects , World without end : But , thank God for a Parliament ; The Pretence of this same Whimzey , ( Necessity ) hath ruin'd the Liberties and Properties of the French-men in Normandy to this day : For they were ruled ( once ) by as good Laws as we are ; but being opprest with some Grievances , contrary to their Charters , Customs and Franchises , they made their Complaint to Lewis the Tenth , who by his New Charters in the year 1314. acknowledged their Rights and Customs aforesaid , and confirmed them ; Confessing also that they had been unjustly grieved and wrong'd ; but by the said New Charter did provide that from thence forward they should be free from all Subsidies and and Exactions ( to be imposed upon them ) without their own Consents ; but , with this saving , or small exception , Si necessitis grand ne le requiret ; namely , except great necessity required the contrary : Which little business ( Mr. Necessity ) has done their business , and broke the neck of all their Laws , Charters and Franchises , and of Subjects they are become Slaves and Vassals ; little differing from Turky-Gally-Slaves ; for no man can say any thing is his own ; if necessitye le Grand , ( that is ) the King require the same ; nay , they dare not now say , That their Souls are their own ; so great is the Encroachment of Tyranny , Covetousness and Oppression ; if you give it an Inch , it will take an Ell , and thefore you Toryes are a base generation , for you hate your Friends most of all , and ( Spaniard-like ) at the same time , basely Fawn , Wagg your Tails , and Cringe ( base Currs ! ) to the Hand that beats you most ; nay , you 'l Fight to Blood , in pursuit of your Sycophantry , ( poor Slaves ! ) And your Tantives will Preach your People all out of Church , rather than not Preach up the said false Doctrine of Sybthorp , Mountague and Manwaring : Oh most unworthy Treacherous and Easy-bought Hirelings ! That , for to be made a Shepheard , or chief Bishops of Souls , would betray them , and Sell them all , and your own to boot into the bargain , in defyance of the Laws of God and the Realm , which the King is Sworn and bound to obey , perform , observe and keep : The Throne cannot have ( it has been found by woful experience ) worse Friends nor greater Traytors than such Sycophants and Wretches as you are . Tant . We are as much obliged to you , Mr. Whigg , for your good Opinion of us . Whig . 'T is , according to your Merits ; Is it not enough that this Kingdom and Commonwealth should be once in one Age undone by the same kind of men , the same Sell Truths , the same Illegal Principles , and Tantivee-Practices , and Parasitical Flatteries , and Slye Insinuations under the Vizard of Divinity , Loyalty , and the Church , the Church ; and yet not one in a hundred of them can tell what , or who is the Church ; but usually , by the Church ( they mean ) themselves , the Clergy ; that is , the promoted and Dignifyed Clergy-men ; and how the Vilest and worst of Clergy-men came to be promoted ( by their Vileness and Villanies ) you have heard ; for no other Clergy-men could be found so to Debauch their Consciences , the Laws of England , and the Protestant Religion ; and these are the men ( Forsooth ! ) whose Spitle we must all lick up , and be punish'd , if we speak never so little against them , Ten thousand times more than when by Curses and Oaths we Blaspheme the Holy Name of God : Oh brave World ! and brave Holy Religion ! and bravely managed ! Tant . You are warm upon us . Whig . Is this a time to be Meally-mouth'd ? To sit weeping and wailing and wringing of hand , with Prayers and Tears only , when — Tant . When , what ? Speak out — Whig . I will not , Catch-pole ! you do but ly at lurch , to undo a man for speaking Truth , if you can but by hook or Crook drill him in , and bring him within the reach or swing of some Old Stretch'd Law , to colour , as well as vindicate safely the private Spleens and Revenge ; every body sees you , and yet you think you walk invisible ; and now too , having got ( Tory ) here to be a Fellow-witness with you ; Oh how you will Strain a word and your own Consciences ? To bring a man ( that Thwarts your Evil purpose ) to be Maul'd by Law , especially , when you get ( which is not difficult ) a Jury , and — for your Turns . Tory. You speak feelingly . Whigg . Jeet on ; and mark the end on 't ; there is an over-ruling Providence and God of Justice , the very Heathens apprehend it ; and the Wheel of Fortune comforted the Captive Prince , that drew the Conqueror's Chariot , the Wheels whereof turning round , and the upmost side ( forthwith ) undermost , and the undermost again uppermost , comforted and cheer'd his Captivity with the certain incertainty inconstancy and vicissitude of things : And therefore , ( good Rampant Tory ! ) let not him that putteth on his Armour boast himself ; yet , you think , you have got the World in a string ; and since the days of Blessed Mary , Popery ( Coleman says ) had never so fair and likely a Prospect . Tant . I am not for Popery . Whigg . No , not for the Name ; I believe , thy Religion is 1500 l per Annum , call it by what Name any body pleases . Tory. But did not you say , ( Whigg ) that you would prove by Common-Law , Statute-Law , Reason and Equity , that the Law determines how and when Parliaments shall sit , or be Dissolv'd ; How long they shall sit , and when they shall be called ; all which ( I understand ) lay no where but in the Hallow of the Kings-Breast , His Will and Pleasure . Whig . No Acts of Justice , as a King , lyes ( so incertainly only ) as at the will and pleasure of the King , so as not to be determined by Law , though some Acts of Mercy and Pardon are purely Arbitrary to adorn the Throne : For if that did , all our other Laws are nothing worth , but at the good pleasure of the King and His Ministers Arbitrarily : For , for all their Transgressions , none can call Evil Ministers to Account but a Parliament , at least , none more properly : And if they can stave off a Parliament at pleasure , and Dissolve it at pleasure , we hold all our other Liberties , Charters and Properties at pleasure ; which they have often oppress'd and invaded , as aforesaid ; and when a Parliament call'd them to a Reckoning and Account for their Roguery , and worse , than march them off : Here the Remedy ( by this Rule ) is left to the mercy and good will and pleasure of the Disease , when Evil Ministers Disease the Common-wealth , and this Disease may not be inquired into by the only Physitians , the Parliament : For ( Alas ! ) the Judges know who gives them ( and continues to them ) their Places and Soft Seats . Tory. You see , as aforesaid , in King Charles I. his Speeches , his Declarations , &c. Still he inculcates , and bids them remember that the Calling , Adjourning , Prorogueing , Holding and Dissolving Parliaments are in his Power . Whig . I believe , you mistake , for the Houses usually ( if not always ) do Adjourn themselves , but they are Prorogued , and Called , and Dissolved by the King ; so all Criminals , ( or so suspected ) are Indicted by the King ; that is , in the Kings Name ; but the Law directs it both how and wherefore . Tory. So you would say , the Law directs the formal part also of Calling and Dissolving of Parliaments to be by the King , in His Name , but the wherefore , or cause of Calling and Dissolving Parliaments is limited and determined by the Law , and the time of Intervals which the King cannot pass , or dispute with . Whig . Yes surely , or else the great foundation of our Laws ( Parliaments ) the banks that limit and bound the out-ragious swellings and overflowings of Arbitrary and unlimited dominion , would be strangely deficient and lame in not providing ( first and especially ) for its own Preservation against Arbitrary Will and Pleasure . Tant . Nay , I suppose you are a Learned and Stout Champion for the Laws ; and for the Laws of Parliament , and much Skill'd in them . Whig . I pretend to no Skill therein , nor to the Honour of it ; all I have to say , or have said on this Subject , is only as an Historian of Whiggism , a bare summary Collection of what others have done and said as to these particulars in the Reign of King Charles I. to rub up your memory with my brief Notes , not to tell you any thing you have not heard before , but with little Cost and Charge give you the Marrow of greater and more Elaborate works at an easier rate , and minute Expence both of Money and Time. Tant . Well said , I like that very well , for I have not much ( of either ) to spare ; but first ( say ) what the Common Law enjoynes as to the Holding or Dissolving Parliaments ? Whig . Few know what the Common Law is : Coke says , it is founded in the Immutable Law and Light of Nature , agreeable to the Law of God , requiring Order , Government , Subjection and Protection ; containing Ancient usages , warranted by Holy Scripture , and because it is generally given to all , King and People , Poor and Rich , Lords and Commons , it is therefore called Common . Now ( consider ) that never any King of England had any Prerogative , but what the Common-Law or Statute-Law gives them , nor any Liberty or Priviledge but by Law : The Prerogative is a Royal Priviledge ( Privilegio ( quasi ) privatae Leges ) Priviledges are Private Laws , which always yields to the Common-Law , Common-weal , and Common-Benefit : The King has no Priviledge or Prerogative contrary to the Publick-weal , Order , Government and Protection of the People : Apply this , to the question in hand concerning Holding or Dissolving of Parliaments . And therefore in the Mirror of Justice , a Book so commended by the Lord Coke , that he saith it contains the whole Frame of the Ancient Common-Laws of this Realm from the time of King Arthur , till near the Conquest , Citesout of it , one Law Concerning Parliaments , made Reg. R. Alfred , Anno Dom. 880. in these words : Le Roy Alfred ordcigna pur usage perpetuel que a deur foits per lan on plus sovene pur mistier in temps de Peace le Assembler a Londres , put Parliementer surle guidement del People de dieu coment gents soy garderent de Pegers , viverent in quiet , receiverent droit per certain usages & Saints Judgments . King Alfred Ordaineth for an usage Perpetual , that Twice a Year , or oftner if need be , in time of Peace , they shall Assemble themselves at London , to Treat in Parliament of the Government ( mark that ) of the People of God , how they should keep themselves from Offences , should live in quiet , and should receive right by certain Laws and Holy Judgments . Tory. Right , for Standing Privy Councels , or long Standing Parliaments , may be Pentioners to Foraign States , may give Councel for their own ends , but a frequent Parliament is uncapable of being Brib'd , and most improbable to give any Advice against the Common-weal , Common-benefit of King and People . Tant . In Troth , I am at a loss to find out a Reason why any should Address and be Thankful for Dissolving a Parliament . Whig . And yet your Hand was one of the first to an Address of like nature ( Heark you ) you know when and where . Tant . No more of that , I am of another mind now : But what says the Lord Coke , the Laws Oracle and Apollo , concerning the said Statute of King Alfred ? Whig . He saith , that the threefold end of this Great and Honourable Assembly of Estates is there declared . First , That the Subjects might be kept from offending , that is , that Offences might be prevented , both by good and provident Laws , and by the due Execution thereof . Secondly , That men might live safely and in quiet . Thirdly , That all men might receive Justice by certain Laws and Holy Judgments , that is , to the end that Justice might be the better Administred , that Questions and Defects of Law might by the High-Court of Parliament be planed , reduced to certainty and adjudged , &c. In short , Si vetustatem spectes est anquessima , si dignitatem est Honoratissima , si Jurisdictionem est capacissima : If you regard Antiquity , the Parliament is the most Ancient Court ; if Dignity , the most Honourable ; if Jurisdiction , the most Soveraign ; and is a part of the frame of the Common-Law , which is called usually Leges Anglicae . Tant . I thought the Parliament had beginning only since Magna Charta in the Reign of Hen. 3. which is not so very Ancient . Whig . Some of your Tantivees have said so and writ so ; but it is your ignorance , or worse : King Hen. 1. Surnamed Beauclark writ to Pope Pascal , saying , Notum habeat Sanctitas vestra , quod me vivente ( auxiliante Deo ) Dignitates & usus Regninostri Angliae non imminentur , & siego ( quod absit ) in tanto me dejectione ponerem optimates mei & totus Angliae populus id nullo modo pateretur : Your Holiness may please to understand , that as long as I live , ( by the help of God ) the Dignities and Customs of our Realm of England shall never be impared , or diminished ; to which , if I should ( which God forbid ) be so high-base as poorly to condescend , my Lords and Commons of England would by no means permit the same . Judge then how dangerous it is to change the Ancient Customs and usages of the Common Law , much less the greatest and most useful of all the rest , frequent and uninterrupted Sessions of Parliament , without which the Liberties and Franchises have been and may be taken away remedilesly . By the Canon Law , Children born before Marriage Solemnized , were Legitimate , if Matrimony afterwards followed ; which is contrary to our Common Law : This was William the Conqueror's Case , who is said to be the Son of a — Arlot , so notorious that all Whores are since called Harlots , for her sake , yet William of Malmesbury says , that Robert Duke of Normandy ( his reputed Father ) did after William was Born Marry his Mother Arlot , which did Legitimate William by the Canon Law , but it reaches not England : For in the like Case , when the Bishops would have ruled it according to the Papal Decree , Omnes Comites & Barones una voce respondement , quod nolunt leges Anglicae mutare ; All the rest of the Lords , Earls and Barons with one voice cryed out — We will not change the Laws of England ( accounted ) the wisest Laws in the World ; but they must be the weakest and most deficient , if it be Arbitrary whether Parliaments ( a Fundamental Constitution ) may or may not have a Being ; or only be born to die , namely , only to be called together that they may be Dissolv'd : Therefore even the late Act for holding Parliaments once in three years or oftner , if need be , made by that Parliament , ( that from the numerous Pentioners therein is commonly ( but Improperly ) called for distinction the Pentioners Parliament ) amongst the many precious Statutes they made , take care and provide that Parliaments shall not only be called , but sit and be held ; or else of what use is this Soveraign Remedy , if it be not made use of ? It would be a Mock-Remedy and Mock-Parliament , if it only be call'd together to be Dissolv'd : This would defeat the very Letter of the Law , as well as the true intent , meaning and benefit thereof . For if a Gracious and good King ( as King Charles I. is reported to be ) had such Horrible Oppressions and Violence committed in his Reign , as Loanes , Ship-money , Illegal Seizures of mens Estates , Liberties , Free-quarter , Coat and Conduct-money , and False Imprisonment , during his Reign , contrary to Law , ( as he acknowledged by after Statutes that condemned them : ) If Papists were prefer'd to Offices of great Trust Military and Civil ; and if his Favorite the Earl of Strafford raised an Army of Papists , 8000. and ruled by them , committed such Hainous Enormities and Misdeeds that he was not fit to be a Puny Constable ; and committed such Tyrannies and Cruelties that no Record can parallel : And if no remedy was found to these mischiefs but a Parliament , and that not suffered to be for 12 long years together : Oh Fruitless Remedy of a Parliament ! Oh dull and Improvident Ancestors ! That were wise above all the World to make good Laws for securing our Liberties and Properties , ( of which they were Tenacious to the death ) And yet , that the Law , that secures these , should not be able to secure it self , but to grant a Prerogative to make all null and void at pleasure ! If such mischiefs happened during the Reign of a Gracious King , what may not happen , in a Reign less Gracious ? Penelope's Webb ( which she weav'd all day and undid ( all again ) at night ) might be a Fable , but this the moral of it ; that our Laws ( which our wise Ancestors had been long contriving to save us from Arbitrary sway ) should all be unravell'd again , and leave us by a Prerogative ( of which the Law is the Author ) to meer good will and pleasure . Tory. I must needs say , that the Law ( which should be Wise , Holy and Good ) would be the Strangest Law in the World , if it should give a Prerogative to destroy it self , and so become felo de se , it s own Executioner ; having so carefully fenc'd against Arbitrary sway in all Ages , and so Industriously and zealously too have our Ancestors stood up for the same to the last drop of their Bloods ; as chusing rather to leave us no Lands , Charters , Priviledges , and Fields , rather than Akeldama's ( as one calls them ) Fields of Blood , and such as we must ( like them ) be forc'd to Fight for their Defence and our own , against Arbitrary Projects . Whig . There needs no Fighting for them , if we make the good Old Laws the Arbitrator of the Good Old Cause : For the Law alone gives the King his due , and his Subjects their due ; but , because men naturally encline to do what they list without controul , wonder not , if even the best of Kings , ( surrounded with so many Parasites and pimping Sycophants ) have been tempted to rule and do ( as he list , ) without Check-mate of Bishops and Knights , and Lords in Parliament . Tant . Why ? Has Parliaments then been as Old a Constitution as Kings of England ? Whig . Yes , for ought can be known to the contrary : The said Famous Old Book ( the said Mirrour of Justice ) shows ; that Parliaments were before a single King Ruled England ; namely , during the Heptarchy , when there were seven Kings ( rather than fail ) to rule England . Tant . I shall never have enow of Kings , I do so love them . Whig . Ay , but seven Kings were accounted more than enough ; and after the Heptarchy , when the King of the West-Saxons , ( namely Cornwall , Devonshire , Dor setshire , Sommer setshire , Wiltshire , Hampshire and Barkshire ) had swallowed up all the rest , Parliaments still were , or Senates ( as , long before this , during the Reign of the Senate and Caesars of Rome here in England . ) So also ( after Egbert ) when the Bishop of Winchester ( Ethelwolph his Eldest Son ) with much ado , was perswaded to leave his Bishoprick and a Religious Life , for a Kingdom , after he had purchas'd a Pardon from the Pope , for breaking his Religious Vow . And , yet he had much ado to keep his Crown upon his head for breaking but one poor Law ; for , if he had not ( by death ) timely death , cheated his Lords , they had certainly Depos'd him , for placing his Queen in a Chair of State ; which was ( then ) contrary to Law , made ever since Queen Ethelburg by chance Poison'd her Husband King Birthrick , by a Venemous Potion which ( she said at least ) she had prepared for another ; but , being a Handsome Whore , she fled into France , 'till by frequent Adulteries , she died . Miserably , and like a Rotten Whore , and for her sake , the West-Saxons ordained ( whence , Note , they were Law-makers in these days ) a Law , that no Kings Wife should hereafter have the Title or Majesty of a Queen , which Law ( as aforesaid ) King Ethelwolph being so bold as to dispense with , and break , the Lords would certainly have Depos'd him , but that his Grave prevented them . Tant . Then ( belike ) it was not safe for Kings to break Laws in those days . Whig . Judge you , and long after , Stout King Edward I. told the Bishops plainly , that he could not ( being but one Member of the Body , though the Head ) undo what the whole Body had done and Enacted , as is before remembred . Tant . You are full of your Old Storyes to maintain your Whiggism . Whig . I invent none ; I write nothing but what I have Authentick Histories and Records to Vouch , and Attest the Truth : And thus Parliaments continued in the short Reign of Ethelbald , Successor to his Fathers Crown and Bed ; for , to his Eternal shame , he Married ( Judith ) his Fathers Widdow : So also in the Reigns of Ethelbert , Ethelred , and Alfred , the four Sons of Ethelwolph , who Successively Reigned one after another ; which Alfred , was as Learned as Valiant , and first Founded the University of Oxford , ( one of the Oldest Universities in the World. ) Tant . I thought Universities had been as Old as Christianity : What could Christianity and the Ministry continue in the World nine hundred years , in its greatest splendor , without an University and an Academian ? Whig . Yea , so it seems , without either Oxford-Scholar , Bloxford-Schollar , or Cantabrigian : Alas , alas ! Universities were ( at first ) the Pope's Invention ; so also were School-men , School-Divinity and Canon-Laws , with which he has so defac'd Christianity , with his Painting , Glazings , Glossings , Comments , Arguments , Syllogismes , Fallacies , Fripperies , and Metaphysical-Fopperies , that Schollars are forc'd to Fool away a great deal of time , in Cracking these Insipid Shells and Outward Rindes , ( that their Teeth are broke , and worn out ) before they come to Taste true , and Solid Learning or Christianity ; nay , the Majority never come at the Kernel and Marrow of true Divinity and useful Learning during their whole Life ; not much unlike that Popish Doctor , that had been nine years Doctor of Divinity before he saw a Bible . Tant . Doctor Subtilis , I 'le warrant . Tory. Prythee , Parson ! do not thus Interrupt Mr. Whigg , with your Impertinent Parenthesis : Go on Whigg ! Whig . To serve you , Tory , I will ; and will let you know , that there were Parliaments to which Knights and Burgesses were Summon'd , after the Heptarchy , in the Reigns aforesaid , and the Reigns of Alfred's Sons , King Edward as Stout a man as his Father , not so Book-Learn'd , but more Successful ; through the help of his Sister , Madam Elfled , the Wife of Ethelred Earl of Mereia , to whom , when she had brought him one Daughter with Grievous Pains in her Travel , she turn'd Souldier and Virago , helping her Brother most Manfully against the Welsh and Danes , and brought them all under her , refusing the Nuptial Bed of her Husband , saying , It was a floolish pleasure , that brought with it so Excessive Pains . Tant . Few of our women ( now a dayes ) are of her mind , they 'l venture again and again . Tory. This Parson is always Interrupting us with his Idle Notes , Commentaries , and Observations : Proceed , ( good Mr. Whigg ) there is some profit and understanding to be learn'd by you : Parson ! hold your Tongue , if it be possible for a Prating Circingle to leave his Impertinence in Company . Whig . This Old Fundamental frame continued in the Reigns of Athelstone , Edgar , Ethelred , Canutus , Harold , William the Conqueror , &c. So that Parliaments are part of the Frame of the Common-Law , which no Kings can defeat , frustrate or make void ; nor did ever any attempt the same , but it proved Fatal to him ; nay , proved to be his ruine : Witness all the Unhappy Reigns , and Violent Deaths of English Kings that have broke loose , and made Rapes and violent attempts upon the known , Chast , and Sacred Laws of England ; the Common-Law to King and People , fram'd in the Law and Light of Nature , Right Reason , and Holy-Writ . Secondly , According to the said Law made in the Reign of King Alfred , Parliaments are to Sit frequently ( Right and good Reason : ) I do not say , as often as you take Physick , ( Spring and Fall at least ; ) but however so often as the Noxious Humours abound ( above the Boundaries , Banks and Limits of the Law ) and offend our Liberties , Charters , Rights and Properties . Thirdly , By the said Law the place of Meeting then was London . Tant . Perhaps Westminster and the Banquetting-house were not then built . Tory. Thou happens to be in the right on 't , ( Parson ! ) for once . Whig . Parliaments then being so Ancient , ( no Court so Ancient ) the Lord Coke having trac'd them from the Brittains , Saxons , Danes , Normans , to our days , I wonder what Tantivees dares ( as Sybthorp and Bishop Manwaring , &c. ) attempt thus to divide , separate and make null and void , two of the three Estates of this Realm , the Lords and Commons ; to leave us but one Estate , ( a King ) in use , and de facto ; whilst the the other two , the great and main Body have no Subsistance , but de Jure ; stand useless and for nothing , years together , and always when there is most need of them too . If ever any Head liv'd well without the Body , give me but one Instance . Tant . This makes me think of the Fable , when the Head and Hand joyn'd together to pull the Gutts out ; for ( quoth the Head ) I plod for all ; and we ( quoth Toryhands and Feet ) have Fought and Wrought for the Head as it annuated and directed , and yet the ( Whiggish ) Gutts devour all the good Victuals ; wherefore it was agreed , with joynt-forces to tear the Gutts a pieces ; little considering , that both Hand and Head Live and are Nourish'd and grow Fat and Fresh and well-liking by the assistance , of the Trading Part , the Whiggish-Gutts , to whom we grutch that they have a Being and Subsistance , though by them we Live and grow Fat , and if we offer to tear them apieces , and their Ancient Priviledges , Charters and Franchises ; who knows but it may prove our own Ruine ? Tory. Here 's a wise Tale of a Tub ; more fit for a Tub-Preacher than a Tantivee . Whig . Nay , for that there shall be no quarrel ; for Tantivee at an Idle-Pulpit Metaphor , or Far-fetch'd Similitude , shall match the best Tub-Preacher of them all ; whilst Tantivee is Pay'd for some as Idle Stories , as poor Tub is Fined and Punish'd for . Tory. Some men had better Steal a Horse , than others to look over the Hedge : You have told us what the Common-Law sayes for Parliaments , frequent Parliaments ; Parliaments that Sit , and must be held , not Mock-Parliaments , ( made like Penelope's-Web only to be Vnravell'd and Dissolv'd . ) But what says the Statute-Law to this point . Whig . I have not done yet with my Common-Law . Tory. Proceed then , but be brief . Whig . The Ancient Treatise ( called Modus Tenendi Parliamentum ) which Lord Coke says was rehearsed and declared before William the Conqueror , and by him approved , and accordingly he held a Parliament for England , ( as appears 21 Edw. 3. fol. 60. ) wherein we Read , that Petitions being truly prefer'd , have been Answered by the Law and Custom of Parliament , before the end of Parliament . Tant . But suppose the King will end it before the Petitions and Grievances be redrest , by his Prerogative . Whig . Parson ! Thou makes Suppositions most dishonourable to Loyal Majesty , and that which is scarce to be suppos'd , that ever any Head should not permit any Remedy to be applyed to the Gouty or distempered Hands , Gutts and Feet : For if the Hands be Lame , how will the Politick-Head help it self ? Or if the Gutts be empty , or Gutifounder'd , how will Head feed its self : And if the Feet be Lame , and the Heart faint , the Head will make Wise-Fighting , ( I believe , ) when it comes too : Therefore , I cannot imagine a Head to be so Senseless , ( except the Brains be out ) that should have such an Vnnatural , Cruel , Stupid and foolish project in the Nodle of it , as neither to help the oppressed Gutts and Hands or Feet ; nor yet permit the Charity and good will of others that are both willing and able to Ease , Remedy and Redress the Griefs and Grievances of the Body ; and all this , without a Fee. Tant . If you apply this to Parliament Redressing Grievances without a Fee , you do not mean , a Pentioners Parliament , I hope . Tory. No , no , such Physitians ( are payed as many others ) they got Fees to hasten us the sooner to our Graves . Whig . But the True-English-Parliament can never be a Long-Parliament , nor can the Intervals of Parliament be long ; nor yet , the Sessions of Parliament can be short : For , Modus Tenendi , saith , That the Parliament ought not to be ended while any Petition dependeth Vndiscussed , ( and so say the Statutes too , as I 'le shew anon irrefragably ) Or at least , to which a determinate Answer is not made , Rot. Par. 17 Ed. 3. No. 60.25 Ed. 3. No. 60.50 Ed. 3. No. 212. 2 Rich. 2.134 . 2 Rich. 2. No. 38. 1 Hen. 4.132 . 2 Hen. 4. No. 325. and 113. And that one of the Principal ends of calling Parliaments , is for Redressing of Grievances that dayly happen ; ( of which the King cannot possibly be inform'd so truly as by Parliaments ) that Parler le ments speak their minds freely , without Glozing and Flattery ; for Kings seldom hear Truth but in Parliament ; that it is one of the greatest wonders in the World , that Kings ( of all others ) should not most of all desire frequent Parliamens , wherein ( of all other places ) he sits in most Majesty and King-like , as Gloriously , as Powerfully ; but , those Kings ( that have been Enemies to Parliaments , and to frequent Parliaments ) have been at poor as ever they could creep , for go they could not , in State , and King-like ; but were glad to make Poor and Beggarly and Illegal Shifts and all to preserve a company of Sneaking Sycophants that care not how Bare and Beggarly the King's Exchequer be , so they may but live impune , to pull him more bare and bald , when there 's scarce a Hair left ; knowing that they must be Fleec'd too , if a Parliament Sir ; and also must disgorge the ill gotten Goods they have Gourmandiz'd so Greedily and Illegally swallowed up , and they are afraid , they shall be choak'd when they are forc'd ( by the Wise Physitians ) to Spue it up . Tory. But if frequent Parliaments ( to fit so long till all Petitions be Answered and Grievances be Redress'd ) be secured by Common-Law and Statute-Law : How came King Charles I. in open Parliament , ( more than in one Parliament ) in a kind of Threatning way to tell the Parliaments , and bid them remember , that the Calling , Adjourning , Prorogueing , Holding and Dissolving , was wholly in his Power . Whig . So it is in his Power , that is , he alone can do it , as many other Kingly Acts ; Indicting men for Felony , Treason , &c. It cannot be done but in the Kings Name , you cannot Arrest a man for Debt that is owing to you , but in the Kings Name : But still they are things in Course , and directed by the Law. Besides , when King Charles I. had such Principles whisper'd into his head , he was but young ; he liv'd to be wiser before his latter end , and to know the Truth of what his Wise Father had told him and his Parliaments very often : That as the Head is ordained for the Body , and not the Body for the Head ; so must a Righteous King know himself to be ordain'd for his People , and not his People for him : Wherefore , I will never be asham'd to confess it my Principal to be the great Servant of the Common-wealth , &c. Tory. Ay , but we Toryes are not of King James 's mind , but quite contrary . Whig . Right , therefore you are most rightly called Tories , meer Irish-Bogg-Trotters , and Slaves that would be , more like than Englishmen ; because you are Slaves to your Lusts of Avarice and Ambition ; to gratifie which , you will gratifie any other mans Ambition , to advance your own ; and as they say , lick up other mens Spitle ( poor Currs ) in hopes that others will lick up yours . Tory. Ay , thouart a Hopeful Whigg ; such a Tom-Tell-Truth I do not like . Whig . I know thou dost not ; thou likest Flatteries and Leasings better by half , Old Tory-Boy . Tory. Well , but tell me true , what Authority have you to assert ( as you have already ) that the principal ends of calling Parliaments is for Redressing Grievances that dayly happen . Whig . For this , Consult 36 Edw. 3. c. 10.18 Edw. 3. c. 24.50 Edw. 3. No. 17.13 Hen. 4. No. 9. Tant . I cannot think that this same King Alfred that was so Wise a man , so great a Schollar , a Prosperous King , and a Valiant , should so humble himself to the Laws . Whig . Therefore you think like ( as you are ) a Tantivee and a Cockscomb : For Andrew Horne tells us ( in his Mirrour of Justice ) that King Alfred made bold to Hang Judge Darling , Seynor , Cadwine , Cole , and fourty Judges more . Tant . For what ? Judges Hang other men , but do not use themselves to be Hang'd . Whig . No , they do not make a common practice of it , though they have often had it , and more often deserved it ; but when they meet with some Just Kings , they also meet with their deserts , ( some of them ) a Halter . Tant . Fourty Judges , ( do you say ) did they hang together ? Whig . Yea , only for Judging contrary to Law ? Tant . Nay , if Judges will Hang men for acting contrary to Law , I am of Opinion , that they that by their Office , their Place , their Wisdom , their Experience , and their Oath , should act according to Law , I would Halter them my self , ( though it is unseemly for my Coat , ) if such Wretches act contrary to Law. Whig . When we have an occasion for a Tantivee Hangman , we 'l send for you ( Parson ) for want of a better . Tant . I am your tres humble when occasion serves . Whig . In Edward 3d. time , poor Thorp , Lord Chief Justice , went to Pot , in plain English , he was Hang'd . Tant . I am your tres humble when occasion serves . Whig . In Edward 3d. time , poor Thorp , Lord Chief Justice , went to Pot , in plain English , he was Hang'd . Tant . For what ? For receiving a Bribe of the Embassador ? Whig . No , he was not so great a Rogue : He was only Hang'd for receiving the Bribe of 100 l in obstruction of Justice . Tant . Poor Fellow ! he had hard Fortune : I can tell you in History , of a man , that received fifty times as much , in Obstruction of Justice , and yet the Gallows did not claim its due . Whig . Ay , ay , some men are born with their A — upwards ; but there 's a time for all things ; and a day of Judgement a coming . Tant . Ay , but when ? canst tell ? Whig . Yes , even when it pleases God. Tant . And the King , you should have said . Whig . That 's needless , for what pleases God , must please all the Kings in the World : The Wisdom and the Politicks of the wisest men is Foolishness with God : What Head had more Brains in it than Strafford ? That out of Self-Interest and Preservation dislik'd coming to Parliament , whom ( he knew in his Conscience ) he had Offended ; and both he and the Archbishop Laud , fenc'd off the Parliaments sitting so long till — at length they themselves had Judgment without Mercy , for Involving the Kingdoms by their Arbitrary Projects ; and Countenancing and Advancing Popish-Books , Popish-Authors , Papists and Popishly Inclin'd , &c. Tant . But was it true , that Strafford rul'd Ireland with an Army , and most of that Army Papists ? Whig . Yes , Popery and Arbitrary Government are like Fire and Heat ; the latter is the necessary consequence of the former : Lord of Strafford had 10000. Souldiers of his standing Guards ; of which 8000. were profest Papists , and the other 2000. were Well-affected to the Tory Cause , they were True-Blew ; and whilst he Decreed and Ordered mens Estates and Lives away at the Council Board , thereby ( as it was Articled and Alleadged against him ) breaking the Kings Oath : Which made the poor Earl at last Stile himself , the Accursed thing , or the Achau that had troubled Israel , with the Babilonish Garments of Popery , and the Accursed Wedges of Gold , by Arbitrary Taxes , Decrees , Loanes , Monopolies , False Imprisonments ; nay , Sentencing to Death some , ( as the Lord Mount-Norris ) and Executing others , taking from him his Inheritance of his Mannor , and Tymore in the County of Armagh ; so also Thomas Lord Dillon was outed ( by the good will and pleasure of this great Lord ) of and from his Lands in Mago and Rosecommen , so also Dame Mary Hibbots in Favour of Thomas Hibbots , who shortly after conveyed the same to Sir Robert Meredith , to the use of the said Earl of Strafford . Tant . I commend him ; he had wit enough to get somewhat , and gather to himself ; which some Tyrants do not . Whig . I know not , what he got over the Devils back was spent under his belly ; as we say , male parta male dilabuntur , for he Died poor and in Debt : The Curse of God followes the Oppressor and his House ; so true is that of the Prophet — Wo to him that Increaseth that which is not his , and to him that ladeth himself with thick-clay ; shall they not rise up suddenly that shall bite thee , &c. Wo to him that coveteth an evil covetousness to his House , that he may set his Nest on high , &c. Thou hast consulted shame to thy House , &c. For the stone shall cry out of the wall , and the beam out of the timber shall bear witness : Wo unto him that buildeth a Town with blood , and stablisheth a City by Iniquity . Tory , Ay , Poor Gentleman , the Earl of Strafford was made a woful example of an evil Councellor and an Oppressor : The sense of his Guilt made him submit to his death the more Patiently . Whig . Yea , he desired to die , seem'd weary of his Life , a wounded Conscience who can bear ? Prosperity may a while muzle the Mouth of Conscience ; but a prospect of Death and Affliction unmuzles the Mastisse . Tory. The Earl Confest — he had received nothing but Justice ; and that the death of the bad , ( he ingenuously confess'd with Cicero ) was the safety of the good that be alive ; and bid — no man trust either in the Favour of his Prince , the Friendship and Consanguinity of his Peers , much less in his own Wisdom , of which ( he confess'd ) he had been too Confident , saying , as once Cardinal Woolsey did , Had I strived to obey my God as Faithfully , as I sought to Honour my King Fraudulently , I had stood and not fallen . And for his Peers , thanking them for that Free and Legal Tryal they gave him , and though they detested the Fault , yet they pitied the Delinquent : Saying , my Lords , I am now the Hopeless President ( of an Ambitious , Covetous , Evil Councellor , before spoken of ) may I be to you all a Happy Example : For Ambition devoureth Gold , and Drinketh Blood , and climbeth so high by other mens Heads , that at length in the fall it breaketh its own neck . Whig . Yet men will tread the very same Steps , of the same evil way , till they come to the same evil end . Tory. It is impossible it should be otherwise , whilst they are Slaves to their Lusts , Ambition and Avarice ; and therefore said that Vnfortunately Fortunate Earl , O! how small a proportion of Earth will contain my Body , when my High Mind could not be Confined within the Spacious compass of two Kingdoms ? But my Hour draweth on . Whig . He had not thus Died before his time for being over wicked , but that he ( in his Career of Prosperity ) fear'd no Colours , nor would hear any good Councel , breathing nothing but Daggers to the Naked-Truth . Tory. Ay , Pride will not be controul'd nor told of its Faults ; it is deaf to all good warning , and open-ear'd as well as open-hearted to Sycophants , that will ruine all . Whig . Let them alone , let the Blind lead the Blind ; till they fall ( as others ) into the same Ditch : For they 'l never take warning , never be good , till they can be no longer bad . Tory. Indeed Archb — Laud , that came to the same End with Strafford , went on in the same Road : And when they could not perswade the Parliament to give Supply ' till-Grievances were address'd , he ( in his Wise Synod ) when the Parliament was Dissolv'd , ordains the Clergy to pay six Subsidies , on pain of Excommunication , and a worse turn , Deprivation ; men wondred at their Impudence as well as Folly ; they were grown very high . Whig . A Synod called together upon pretence of Reconciling and Setling Controversies and Matters in Religion , to take upon them the boldness thus out of Parliament , to grant Subsidies , and to medle with mens Freeholds : I dare say , the like was never heard of before ; and they , that durst do this , will do worse , if the current of their raging Tyranny be not stopped in time ; said Mr. Harbotle Grimstone in the Parliament Anno 1640. Who are they ( Mr. Speaker ) that have countenanc'd and cherish'd Popery and Arminianism to that growth and height it is now come to , in this Kingdom ? Who are they ( Mr. Speaker ) that have given Encouragement to those that have boldly Preached those damnable Heresies in our Pulpits ? Who are they ( Mr. Speaker ) that have given Authority and License to them that have published those Heresies in Print . Who are they ( Mr. Speaker ) that of late have been advanced to any Dignity or Preferment in the Church , but such as have been notoriously Suspitious in their Disciplines , Corrupt in their Doctrines , and for the most part Vitious in their Lives ? Tory. Ay , ay , The Skum will be uppermost , if possible . Whig . God forbid tho' , that only the Clergy , or ( much worse ) only the Dignified Clergy , should be accounted the Church of England . Tant . Why not ? For the Church of England confesseth that she may Err ; and if the Clergy , nay , the Dignified Clergy ( in Convocation too ) have not Erred wretchedly , they have had hard Censures and hard Measure . Whig . They cared not for Censures , some of them , if they can keep 4000 l per Annum , and may Censure , Sentence , Excommunicate , Curse , and consequently Goal them that stop their carreer . But Sir Harbotle Grimstone went on , in his said Speech , saying , Who are they ( Mr. Speaker ) that have overthrown our two great Charters , Magna Charta , and Charta de Foresta ? What Imposition hath been laid down , or what Monopoly hath heen damned in any Court of Justice since the last Parliament ? Hath not Ship-Money , Coat and Conduct-Money , and Money for other Military Charges been Collected and Levied , with as great Violence as ever they were , in violation of our Liberties , confirmed unto us in our Petition of Right , notwithstanding all our Supplications and Complaints the last Parliament ? And who are they ( Mr. Speaker ) that have caused all those dangerous Convulsions , and all the desperate unnatural Bloody Distempers , that are now in our Body Politique ? Tant . I could have told the Master of the Rolls their Names , and who they were , at least , Old Hodge , the Fidler tells us their Names in — 41.41 . viz. The Puritans , the Roundheads , the Whiggs . Whig . Then Mr. Grimstone was mistaken , for he proceeded , saying , Mr. Speaker , I will tell you a passage I heard from a Judge in the Kings Bench. There was a poor man Committed by the Lords , for refusing to submit unto a Project , and haing attended a long time at the Kings Bench Barr , upon his Habeas Corpus , and at the last pressing earnestly to be Bailed , The Judge said to the rest of his Brethren — Tant . Well said , Let us hear the Judges Opinion . Whig . Come Brothers ( said he ) let us Bail him , for they begin to say in the Town , That the Judges have overthrown the Law , and the Bishops the Gospel . Tory. I do not like that Innuendo , and upon the Bench too , and in — 41 — 41. too : Trusly Roger layes the blame of the Commotions ( when all things were out of Order and Law , and you hear , by whom ) on the Whiggs , the Whiggs put all in Combustion . Whig . Nero ( Chronicles say ) set Rome on fire and laid the blame upon the Christians . Tant . What then ? How do you apply it , let us hear the application . Whig . I make no Applications , except like your self , far from the matter in hand , Catch-Pole ! You would ensnare me , would you ? God bless me from a Tantivee-Swearer , when his Interest lyes at Stake ; we know it experimentally , men of your Coat can Swear Thorow-stitch . Tant . We know our Interest , which is Spiritual , and in a Spiritual way , we can do pretty well , or , by the way of Oathes , which are Spiritual and Religious things . Whig . Ay , I herein will take your word ( as I do that of Stretching Travellers ) I had rather Trust you , than make Tryal ; God bless me from you , you are Home-Thrusters , when a Cause is at Pinch ; or , ( like a Ship in a Storm ) lyes at Try. Tant . Some Fear us , that do not Love us . Whig . Ay , all of you are terrible men , and men of Reverence ( Sir ) and some of you , worthy to be belov'd a little : So Sir Harbotle acknowledged , ( in the said Speech ) viz. Mr. Speaker , I would not be misunderstood in what I have said ; for there are some of both Functions and Professions that I highly Honour and Reverence in my heart , for their Wisdoms and Integrities . Tory. Ay , or else it is a pity but they should be advanc'd , if there be not some wor thy persons , and some Integrities among them . Whig . Yet , the good Patriot goes on , speaking feelingly , viz. But ( Mr. Speaker ) I may say it , for I am sure we have all felt it , that there are some of both Functions and Professions that have been the Authors and Causers — Tant . — Of what ? Of Law and Gospel ? Whig . No , of all the Miseries , Ruines and Calamities that are now upon us Mr. Speaker , This is the Age ( Mr. Speaker ) that hath produced and brought forth , Achitophels , Hammans , Woolseyes , Empsons and Dedleyes , Tricilians and Belknapes , Vipers and Monsters of all sorts . Tant . We use to lay the cause of all our Civil Wars at the doors of the Puritans , Roundheads or Whiggs . Whig . Ay , you know no more than just what Oliver 's Fidler and Nat. Thompson discover to you : Are you not asham'd to berul'd , and taught Ethicks and Politicks , from the Pillory , the Mass , and the Stews ; poor Tories and Tantivees , I blush she you . Tant . But why do you so often make Astrismes and Remarks of Popular Fury against the Grand Favorites ? Whig . Our own Memories can sufficiently enform us of the Tragical Events that attend the Peoples Odium , Indignation and Wrath. Dr. Lamb ( for no other fault but ( taken on Suspition ) for an Intimado and Friend to the Duke of Buckingham ) was pull'd in pieces by the Mobile and Rable ; and Verses presently drop'd about the Streets Threatning the like Fate to the Duke : This Dystich for one , Let Charles and George do what they can , The Duke shall Dic like Doctor Lamb. And he that Stab'd the Duke , was rather bewail'd and Canoniz'd , then Execrated by the Populace ; what Devils Incarnate did the people prove to the two De Witts in Holland , not long ago ? The examples of Popular Hatred and Revenge ( I call it not always Justice , because Irregular at best ) are infinite in our own and Foraign Countries : What need I tell of the Sicilian Vespers ? Mastnello's ten days Revenge occasioned by the Gabell's or Excise , and yet , it was established by Law , as Hearth-money ( amongst us ) and Excise ( amongst us ) and in Holland and other Countries ? Tant . I perceive by the Story that , of all men living , Favorites , Grand Minions ( whom all men Envy ) have had the worst luck . Whig . To go no further back than King Edward 2. how miserably were Gaviston and the two Spencers , Tom and Dismembred , limb from limb ? Tory. Ay , so was Lord William Scroop , Earl of Wiltshire , and Lord Treasurer , and Sir John Bushy , Bagot , and the two Green's , ( Thomas and Henry ) in Richard 2. time ? Whig . And so ended the Duke of Somerset and Suffolk in Henry 6. time . Tant . These were three Easie Kings ? Whig . But what was Henry 8. then ? And what Fate had Woolsey ? Tory. Or the Duke of Somerset and his Brother the Admiral , both of them Vncles to the King ? in Edward 6. Reign ? Whig . Or Duke of Buckingham , Earl of Strafford , Archbishop Laud in Charles I. time ? Or Earl of Clarendon in his present Majesties Reign , ( which God long preserve . ) Tant . The Earl of Clarendon came off ; or , rather he march'd off ; ( if you please ) and well he could . Whig . Well then , God send me A Moderate Fortune , and a quiet Conscience , A Soul not Stuff'd with Flattery or Non-sense ; Nor , with much Business , too uneasie made , Nor of a Curtain-Lecture much afraid , But , at a Thunder-Bolt , stands undismay'd ; With Brow Unwrinkled , Feet without the Gout ; Let Hero's plod and heave each other out : And strive to be mark'd out the Peoples hate , Bustling who first shall feel the wonted Fate ; And Justle for the Bench , and Noisy-bar : We Shrubs are lower but far Happier . I 'le conclude with an old Story : Cambyses King of Persia was a man naturally inclin'd to Goodness , but Spoil'd by Sycophants , and drill'd on to absolute Tyranny by Whores and Sycophants , that led him by the Nose ; and then for Lust , he was not only Insatiable , but wildly Extravagant ; scarce any Wench of his own Kingdom would serve his Wanton Squeamish Old Appetite , and yet he had ( of his own Subjects ) Whores in abundance , that were as willing as heart could wish , and would have been glad of the Preferment to be a Royal Whore ( for besides the pleasent sin , there was Money and a Title of Honour too perhaps in the Case : ) But nothing would serve Cambyses , but to make his own Sister his Miss ; and not only so , but he could have been tempt'd and could find in his heart to make her his Wife , ( if he durst for the Laws ) whereupon to satisfy the Laws and his Lust together , he made a Privy-Council-business of it , and Consulted them and the Lawyers , whether he might no. Marry his Sister lawfully ? They Answered , That they knew no Law which admitted such Marriages , but that there was a Prerogative , That the Persian Kings might do what they listed . Tant . The Prerogative ( then ) is a very Hapy Commodity ( these ) and a help ( it seems ) to get such a Commodity as is not allowed to the poor , nor to the wicked , neither by the Law of God nor man : But tell us more concerning our Kings Prerogative in reference to Parliaments ? Whig . Not now however , for I understand your drift , ( Mr. Catch-Pole ! ) but I am not very ambitious of being a State-Martyr ; I find cold comfort in it ( in a Thankless , unthinking and degenerate Age ) besides , ( Mr. Tantivee ! ) you can Swear with a Witness , and either strain my words , or you 'l stretch your Conscience , and it is a Cheverill-Conscience already , we know it by woful experience . Tant . But ( now that ) Mr. Tory is absent , there cannot ( you know ) be two stretching Witnesses , speak bold Truths , and tell us why the Parliament did lay to the charge of King Charles I. the granting Passes under his own Hand to several of his Servants and Knights to go over into Ireland , Signed C. R. and serve and assist the Irish Rebels that cut the Protestants Throats , and also sent to the Duke of Ormond to make Peace with them , and to promise them Toleration , and a Deputy of their own chusing , who they would , and agreed that they should come over for England , and what to do , tell us some of these Mysteries ; and How , and Why the Pope sent them a Plenary Indulgence for the merit of Butchering the Protestants . Whig . A Vaunt ! thou Tempter ! how darest thou ( Pittiful Tantivee ! ) grow thus Insolent and Troublesome here ? May I not be Master of mine own , nor quiet in my own House for these Beggarly and Cowardly Tories and Tantivees ? Boy ! bring me hither my Old Fox again ; I 'le once more wear it by my side , rather than thus be pester'd and disturb'd with Slaves , that cannot look in a Glass , but they must see in their Foreheads those Scarrs , which are the Witnesses as well as Trophyes of Whiggish Valour and his Vnconquered Sword ? Tory has had a soft place in his Head ever since . Tant . Dear Whigg ! Pry'thee , a few more of your Perillous Truths . Whig . Not now , I profess , you grow Trouble some : Have you no more wit ? Do you know who you speak to , Catchpole ! Begone , I say , Ha ? FINIS . London , Printed for E. Smith at the Elephant and Castle in Cornhil , near the Royal Exchange , Anno Dom. 1682. Notes, typically marginal, from the original text Notes for div A70223-e10 1626. 2 Car. 1. Whiggisme before in p. 24. Chron. Baker . p. 109. Walsingham , H●st . Angl. p. 48. Y●●ligm . n●●str p. 88. H●n . de Knighton . de event . Angl. 3. l. cap. 13. col . 2528. Baker Chron. p. 99. Chron. Baker 112. Bak. Chron. p. 105. Anno 1. Edw. 2. Chron. Bak. 106. Anno 25. Edw. 1. Hen. de Knighton . de event . Angl. l. 3. c. 9. to 14. H. Knighton , ibid. 4 Car. 1. 4 Car. 1. 1602. 1603. Isa . 29.21 . Mic. 2.1 , 2. Ezek. 45.9 . & 40.8 . Eccles . 5.8 . 1626. 2 Car. 1. 2 Car. 1. 25 Edw. 1. 27 Edw. 1. Bak. Chron. p. 100. Augustin . cont . Manich . l. 22. cap. 74. Lud. Viv. Institut . Fem. Christ . lib. 1. 1626. 3 Car. 1. 1627. Rushw . Col. part 1. 440. Rushw . part 1. 442. † K. Edw. 1. Bak-Chron . 107. Bak. Chron. 129. Anno 132● . Anno 1322. 1326. Ru●w . 455. Rushw . Col 649. Anno 3 C●●● . 4 Car. 1. Bracton Comm. p. 487. Plowd . Comm. p. 246. Bracton lib. 3. c. 9. fol. 107. Dated May 11.41 . May 1. 1640 , 16 Car. 1. Commentar . of Guilme Jeremie , Anno 131 4. Coke lib. 7. Rep. p. 12 , 13. Lib. 9. Preface . Mirror of Justice , ch . 1. Sect. 3. Lord Coke 's Comment upon it . Chart. Hem. 3. Vid. Decret . Greg. 9. fol. 260. Col. 1. Will. Maim . lib. 3. c. 19. 9 Hon. 3 , 9. See the Articles of Impeachment against Strafftord . Mirrour of Justice . Egbert Anno 926. Pope Gregory 4th . Baker's Chron. Ann. Dem. 895 Fox Acts and Monuments . Mirrour of Justice . Coke Instit . 4. R. p. 11. King James 's Speeches in Parliaments Anno 1603. and 1609. Horne 's Mirr . of Justice . Anno 1639. Habak . 2.5 , 6 7 , 8 , 9 , 10 , 11 , 12. His Speech in the Tower. His Speech in the Tower. Sir Harbotle Grimston 's Speech in Parliament . The Character of a Happy man. Rawleigh ' s History of the World , lib. 3. Anno. 1645.