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Great Britain -- Politics and government -- 1642-1649. A56186 R8192 (Wing P4027). civilwar no Part of the famous speech of William Prynn Esq, Decemb. 48. touching K. Charles I. Prynne, William 1648 4162 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 B The rate of 2 defects per 10,000 words puts this text in the B category of texts with fewer than 10 defects per 10,000 words. 2002-04 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2002-04 Apex CoVantage Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2002-05 TCP Staff (Michigan) Sampled and proofread 2002-05 John Latta Text and markup reviewed and edited 2002-06 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion Part of the Famous Speech OF WILLIAM PRYNN Esq Decemb. 48. Touching K. Charles I. THe next thing proposed by them for a speedy Peace and Settlement , is the bringing of the King to speedy Justice for all his Treasons and Blood-shed in the late Wars , and to Depose and Execute him as the greatest capital Malefactor in the Kingdom : This certainly is a very dangerous and unlikely way to Peace and Settlement . First of all , The smiting of the Shepherd , is the way to scatter , not unite the Sheep . The slaying of the King or General in the Field , Scatters and Dissolves the Army , not secures them : To cut off a King'dhead , is the next way to destroy , not cure a diseas'd Body : Such kind of State Policy may destroy , or disturb , but never Settle us in perfect Peace : The Prince his next Heir , the Queen , the Duke of York , all his Children , and Allies both at Home and Abroad , will certainly meditate Revenge , and all Kings in Christendom will assist them , even for their own Interest and Safety , least it should become a President for themselves . And will this then secure , or be a likely way to Peace or Settlement . 2. The greatest part of the Members in both Houses , the Lords , Gentlemen , and all sorts of People throughout the Kingdom , the whole Kingdoms of Scotland and Ireland , ( who have as great an Interest in the Kings Person , being their Lawful King , as we have , and are obliged by Allegiance and Covenant to protect his Person and Crown from violence ) will unanimously , as one man oppose and protest against it , and by force of Arms , endeavour to bring those to Execution who shall presume to advise , or attempt to depose or destroy the King in any kind , contrary to their Allegiance and solemn Covenant : Yea , all Protestant Realms , Churches , States in Foreign parts , will abhor both the fact , and adjudge it contrary to their Principles and Religion , and that which may irritate Popish Kings , and Princes to take up Arms to ruine them , lest they should fall into the like practises . And can this then be a safe or speedy way to Peace and Settlement , especially when we know not what Government shall succeed upon it , and can expect nothing but bloody consequences from such a bloody advice . 3dly . I never read of any Peace or Settlement in any Kingdom , where King-killing was practised or approved . When the Roman Armies began once to Kill their Emperors , and cut off their Heads , They were scarce ever free from Civil-wars . One Army set up one Emperor , another Army another , the Senate a third , who always Warred till they had cut off one anothers Heads . Most of those Emperors had very short reigns , few of them above a year or two , and some of them scarce two Months , but most of them untimely Deaths . In Sclavonia and Norway where they had a Law , that he that slew a Tyrant King , should succeed him in the Throne : They had almost every year a new King , perpetual wars and discords , and not one of all their Kings for above one hundred years together , ever came to a natural Death , but was murthered as a Tyrant , and succeeded by a worse and greater Tyrant , as Saxogramaticus and Nubrigensis testify . And in the sacred Story it self , it is very observable , That after ten Tribes revolted from Rehoboam , though by Gods Justice and approbation for Solomons sins ; they had never any Peace or Settlement , but perpetual Wars with one Kingdom or another , or between themselves : Their Kings , or most of them were all Tyrants and Idolators , and by the just Hand of God , for the most part tumultuously slain and murthered one of and by another , who succeeded them : He that murthered his Predecessor , being usually slain by his Successor , or his Predecessors Sons , Servants , or by the People of the Land , in a tumultuous way : In the 2 Kings 15. We read in that one Chapter , of no less then four of those Kings slain , one by another : and as for the People under these Kings , they had never any rest , peace , settlement , or freedom , but lived under the greatest misery and oppression that ever any Subjects under Heaven did , as the sacred History records . This King-killing certainly can be then no probable way at all to Peace , Safety , Settlement , or Freedom , but the Policy to deprive us eternally of all these , and of God , and Religion to boot ; as it did the ten Tribes heretofore . 4thly . This way to Peace and Settlement , is directly contrary to all the former Ingagements , Oathes , and several Petitions , Declarations , Remonstrances , Protestations , and Professions of both Houses of Parliament : To the King , kingdom , People , wherein we have alwayes protested and held forth unto them both before and since the Wars . That we will preserve and protect the Kings Person from danger , support his royal Estate with Honour and Plenty at Home , with Power and reputation Abroad , and by our Loyal Affections , Actions and Advice , lay a sure and lasting foundation of the Greatness and Prosperity of his Majesty , and his royal Posterity in future times . That we are still resolved to keep our selves within the bounds of Faithfulness and Allegiance to his sacred Person and Crown . That we will with our Lives , Fortunes , Estates , and with the last drop of our Blood endeavour to support His Majesty , and his just Soveraignty and Power over Us ; and to prevent all dangers to his Majesties Person . That we took up Arms as well for a Defence of His Majesty to Protect his Person , as the Kingdom and Parliament ; without any intent to hurt or injure His Majesties Person or Power : Professing in the presence of Almighty God , That we would receive him with all Honour , yeild Him all due Obedience and Subjection , and Faithfully endeavour to secure His Person and Estate from all danger , and to the uttermost of our Power to procure and establish to Him and His People , all the Blessings of a Glorious and Happy raign ; which both Houses several times profest and remonstrated to the World . TO MURDER and DEPOSE THE KING , was such a scandal , as any that profess'd the name of a Christian , could not have so little Charity as to raise it ; especially when they must needs know , the Protestation taken by every Member of both Houses , whereby they Promise in the presence of Almighty God , to defend His Majesties Person ; and all their Addresses and Petitions to Him expressing the contrary : That they never suffered it to enter into their Thoughts to Depose the King , abhorring the very Thought of it , much more the Intent . That they never suffered the word DEPOSING the King , To go out of their Mouthes , nor the thing to enter into their Thoughts . That they rest assured , both God and Man will abominate that Monstrous and most Injurious Charge laid upon the Representative Body of this whole Kingdom by the Malignant Party , against the King , as Designing not only the ruine of his Majesties Person , but of Monarchy it self : The Authors of which malicious horrid scandal , they profess to make the Instances of their exemplary Justi●e , so soon as they shall be discovered . Now for Us after all these multiplyed reiterated Protestations , Promises , Engagements , Declarations , Remonstrances to all the World , from the beginning of the Differences and Wars till now , to think or talk of Deposing and Destroying the King , and altering the Government , as the only safe and speedy way to Peace and Settlement , as the Army-Remonstrants prescribe ; would be such a most detestable breach of publick Faith ; such a most Perfidious , Treacherous , Unrighteous wicked Act , as not only Gods , Angels , and good Men ; but the very worst of Turks and Devils would abhor : And therefore its a Miracle to me , that these pretious SAINTS should thus impudently , before all the World propose to the House , and force you to pursue it , to stain your Reputation , and make you execrable to God and Men . 5thly . The very Oath of Allegiance , which every one of us hath taken , upon our first admission to be Members , engageth us in positive terms , Not to offer any hurt or violence to His Majesties Royal Person , State or Government ; to bear Faith and true Allegiance to His Majesty , His Heirs and Successors ; and Him and Them to defend to the uttermost of Our power , against all Conspiracies and Attempts whatsoever , which shall be made against His or Their Persons , Crown , or Dignity : And from our hearts to abhor , detest , and abjure as Impious and Heretical , this Heathnish and Turkish Doctrine : That Princes Excommunicated , or deprived by the People , ( as it seems the King is now for extirpating Episcopacy , Popery , Mass , and Prelacy out of his Dominions by his present Concessions , without any possibility or hopes of replanting ) may be Deposed or Murthered by their Subjects , or any other whatsoever . Which Hellish contrivance and practice , as our whole State and Parliament , in the State of 3 Jac. cap. 1 , 4 , 5. 35 Eliz. cap. 1. and other Acts resolve , is the only way to unsettle , ruine and subvert , not to settle and establish the Peace and Government of our Realm . And both Houses since this Parliament , have by a solemn Protestation , first , and by a solemn League and Covenant since , with Hands lifted up to the most high God , engaged both themselves and the three Kingdoms of England , Scotland and Ireland , by a most sacred and serious Vow and Protestation ( purposely made and prescribed by them , For the Honour and Happiness of the King and His Posterity , and the true publick Liberty , Safety and Peace of the three Kingdoms , as the Title and Preface declare ) Sincerely , Really , and Constantly to endeavour with their Estates and Lives , TO PRESERVE AND DEFEND THE KINGS MAJESTIES PERSON AND AUTHORITY , in the preservation and defence of the true Religion and Liberties of the Kingdom , ( which he hath now fully and actually performed by his Concessions in this Treaty ) That the World may bear witness with our Consciences OF OUR LOYALTY ; and that WE HAVE NO THOUGHTS OR INTENTIONS TO DIMINISH HIS MAJESTIES JUST POWER AND GREATNESS . And shall also with all Faithfulness endeavour the discovery of all such as shall be Incendiaries , or evil Instruments , by DIVIDING THE KING FROM HIS PEOPLE ; That they may be brought to speedy Tryal , and receive condign Punishment . And shall not suffer themselves directly , or indirectly , by whatsoever combination or terror , to be withdrawn or make defection from this Covenant ; but shall all the days of their Lives really and constantly continue therein against all Opposition , and promote the same against all lets impediments whatsoever . And this Covenant we all made in the presence of Almighty God , the searcher of all Hearts ; WITH A REAL INTENTION TO PERFORM THE SAME , as we shall answer at that great day , when the secrets of all hearts shall be disclosed . Now how we who are Members of this House , or any who are Subjects of our Three Kingdoms , or Officers and Souldiers in the Army , who have taken this Oath of Allegiance , Protestation , League or Covenant , or any of them , ( as some of them have done , all or two of them at least , sundry times over ) can , without the highest Perjury to God , Treachery to the King , Perfidiousness to the Kingdom , Infamy to the World , Scandal to the Protestant Religion , and Eternal dishonour to the Parliament and Themselves , Athiestically break through or elude all those most Sacred aod Religious tyes upon our Souls , by a speedy publick Dethroning and Decolling of the King , and Dis-inheriting His Posterity ; ( as the Army Remonstants advise ) and that in the open view of the World , and that All-seeing God to whom we have thus Appealed and Sworn , by any Equivocations or Distinctions , ( of which the Armies Remonstrance is full ) or Professions of our damnable Hypocrisie in the breaking of them , transcends my understanding . And for those who Style themselves SAINTS , and charge this as one of the Highest Crimes against the King , His frequent breach of Oaths and Promises , to transcend him and Traytors in this very sin , is such a Monster of Impiety , as I concelve could never have entred into the hearts of Infidels , or the worst of Men or Devils . And to act this under a pretext to Preserve and Settle the Peace of the Kingdom , is such a Solecism , as militates point-blank against the very words and scope both of this Oath , Protestation , League , and Covenant , which crosseth not the Oaths of Supremacy and Allegiance , but more strongly engageth Men to preserve and defend the Kings Person and Autohority , in the Preservation and Defence of the true Religion and Liberties of the Kingdom ; as the Assembly of Divines , and both Houses affirm in their Exbortation to take the Covenant , which prescribes this as the only means of securing and preserving Peace in all the Three Kingdoms ; to preserve the Person and Honour of the King , His Crown and Dignity , from any such Violence and Invasion as is now suggested by the Army , which all three of them ingage us , and all Three Kingdoms , with our Lives and Fortunes really and constantly to oppose , against all Lets and Impediments , &c. and to bring those to condign punishment as Incendiaries and evil Instruments who suggest it . So as if the Army will proceed in this Diabolical destructive way , of Treason and Ruine , We , and all Three Kingdoms are solemnly engaged with our Estates and Lives unanimously to oppose and bring them to Justice . And is this then the way to publick Peace and Settlement , to raise another new War to murder one another in this new Quarrel , wherein the Army and their adherents , must be the sole Malignants and Enemies we must Fight with , & c ? No verily , but the high-way to the Kingdoms and Armies ruine , whose Commissions we are obliged to revoke ; whose Contributions we must in Conscience withdraw ; and whose Power we must with our own lives resist , unless we will be Perjured , and guilty of breach of Covenant in the highest degree , if they persist in these Anti-Covenant Demands . 7. The King having granting us whatever we have , or can demand for the safety and preservation of our Religion , Laws and Liberties ; and both Houses engaged themselves by Vote in answer to the Kings Propositions , to restore him to a condition of Freedom , Honour , and Safety , according to the Laws of the Realm , ( which was the Armies own Proposals in his behalf in August 1647. ) We can neither in Honesty , Honour , Justice nor Conscience ( were He ten thousand times worse than the Army would render Him ) Depose and bring Him to Execution . It being against all the rules of Justice , and Honour between two professed Enemies , who had no relations one to another ; much more between King and Subjects in a Civil War , a thing without President in any Ages . To this the Army Remonstrance answers , That this would be thought an unreasonable and unbeseeming demand in a Personal Treaty , between Persons standing both free , and in equal ballance of Power ; but not when one Party is wholly subdued , captivated , imprisoned , and in the others Power . But this certainly is a difference spun with an Athiestical thred ; For to Treat with any King in our Power , or out of it , on Articles of Peace , upon these terms ; That if He consent to them , We will restore Him to the Throne with Honour , Freedom , Safety ; and when He hath yielded us our Demands , then to Depose and cut of His Head ; is the highest breach of Faith , Truth , Honour , and Justice , that can be imagined : and those who dare justifie such Perfidious and Unchristian dealing , deserve rather the Style of Turks and Athiests , than Pious Saints . 8. There is no president in Scripture , that the General Assembly , or Sanhedrin of the Jews or Israelites , did ever Judically Imprison , Depose , or Execute any one of the Kings of Judah or Israel , tho' many of them were the grossest Idolaters , and wickedst Princes under Heaven ; who shed much innocent blood , and oppressed the People sundry ways . We know that David himself committed Adultery with Uriah his Wife , a faithful Servant and Souldier , while he was with his General Joab in the Field : And then afterwards caused him to be Treacherously slain . Yet neither the Assembly the Elders , nor Joab and the Army under him , did impeach or crave Justice against him for these sins , tho' he lived impenitently in them . And when he numbered the People afterwards , for which sin seventy thousand of his Subjects lost their lives ; yet was he not Arraigned nor Deposed for it : and God who is Sovereignly just , tho' David was the principal Malefactor in this case , if not the sole ; and thereupon , when he saw the Angel that smote the People , cried out , Lo , I have sinned and done wickedly ; but these Sheep , what have they done ? Let thy hand be against me and my Fathers House : Yet God spared him and his Houshold , tho' the Principals , and punished the People only with death , for this sin of his . After him Solomon his Son , a Man Eminent for Wisdom and Piety at first , Apostatiz'd to most gross Idolatry of all sorts , to please his Idolatrous Wives , and became a great oppressor of his People , making their burdens very heavy , yet the Subjects or Souldiers did neither Impeach nor Depose him for it : and tho' he were the principal Offendor , yet God spared him for Davids sake , in not taking the ten Tribes from him for these sins , during his life ; though he rent them from his Son Rehoboam , who was at most but accessary , for his Fathers sins , not his . True it is , some of the Idolatrous Kings of Israel , by the just avenging Hand of God , were slain by private Conspiracies , and popular Tumults , in an Illegal way : but not Deposed nor Arraigned by their Sanhedrins , or General Congregations ; and those who slew them , were sometimes slain by others who aspired to the Crown , or by the People of the Land , or by their Children who Succeded them ; and came to untimely Tragical ends . 9. Tho there be some presidents of Popisb States and Parliaments Deposing their Popish Kings and Emperours at home , and in Foreign parts , in an extraordinary way , by power of an armed Party : Yet there is no president of any one Protestant Kingdom or State , that did ever yet Judically Depose or bring to Execution , any of their Kings and Princes , though never so bad , whether Protestants or Papists ; and the Protestants in France , though some of their Kings , when they had invested them in their Thrones , became Apostates to Popery , and Persecutors of Their People ; albeit they resisted them by force of arms in the Field to preserve their lives ; did never once attempt to pull Them from Their Thrones , or bring Their Persons unto Justice : And I hope our Protestant Parliament will never make the first president in this kind , nor stain Their Honour or Religion with the blood of a Protestant King , against so many Oaths , Protestations , Covenants , Declarations , and Remonstrances made and published by Them to the contrary . 10. For the presidents of Eeward II. and Richard II. in times of Popery , they were rather forcible resignations by Power of an Army , then judical deprivations , neither of them being ever legally arraigned and brought to Tryal in Parliament . And Mortimer who had the chief hand in Deposing King Edward II. in the Parliament of 1 E. 3. was in the Parliament of 4 E. 3. Impeached , Condemned , and Executed as a Traytor , and guilty of High Treason , for Murdering Edw. II. after he was Deposed , at Berkley-Castle , and Sir Simon Bereford , ( together with Thomas Gurney and Will. Ocle ) were adjudged Traytors for assisting him therein ; one of them Executed , and great Rewards promised to the apprehenders of the other two . And as for Richard II. though he was Deposed after Henry IV. was Crowned by pretence in Parliament : yet this Deposition was after his resignation only , not before it : and without any Formal tryal or arraignment , or any Capital Judgment of Death against him ; for which I find no president in any Parliament of England , Scotland , France , nor yet in Denmark it self , though an Elective Kingdom ; who , though They justly Deposed Christiern II. for his most abominable Tyranies and Cruelties ; yet they never adjudged or put him to Death , but only restrained him as a Prisoner . I shall only add this , That though the Elective Kindoms of Hungary , Bohemia , Poland , Denmark , and Sweden , have in their Parliaments and Diets Deposed sundry of their Kings for their Wickednesses and Tyrany ; yet they never judically condemned any one of them to death , though Papists . And for a Protestant Parliament ( to please an army only , acted by Traytors in this particular ; to render both Parliament , army , and our Religion too , for ever execrable throughout the World , and set all Mens Pens and Hands against them to their ruine , to begin such a bloody president as this , upon a most false pretext , of settling Peace ; contrary to the express Command of God himself , who Commands Christians , To Pray for Kings , and all in authority , that they may live a quiet and peaceable life under them in all Godliness and Honesty , ( not to Depose or cut off their Heads ) as the only way to Peace and Settlement ; will not only be Scandalous but Monstrous . FINIS .