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Church and state -- England. Great Britain -- Politics and government -- 1660-1688. 2003-11 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2003-12 SPi Global Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2005-01 Rachel Losh Sampled and proofread 2005-01 Rachel Losh Text and markup reviewed and edited 2005-04 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion Interest Mistaken , OR THE Holy Cheat ; PROVING From the undeniable Practises and Positions of the Presbyterians , that the Design of that Party is to enslave both King and People under the Masque of RELIGION . By way of Observation upon a Treatise , INTITULED , The Interest of England in the Matter of RELIGION , &c. By ROGER L'ESTRANGE . The Second Impression . Aug. De Civ . Dei. Nullo modo his artibus placatur Divina Majestas , quibus Humana Dignitas inquinatur . LONDON , Printed for Henry Brome at the Gun in Ivy-lane . 1661. To the Honourable HOVSE of COMMONS Assembled in PARLIAMENT . Most Honourable , TO begg your Pardon , or Protection , were to suppose a Fault , or Hazzard , but in this Dedication finding neither , I shall waive that Formality : humbly submitting what I have to say ; my Reasons , and my Self , to your Authority , and Wisdom , without more Prologue , or Apology . There is a Faction which under the note of Presbyterian , seems much concerned to stickle against Bishops , & Church-rites , on the behalf of tender Consciences . Their Writings and Opinions , are with great Freedom , Craft , and Diligence , dispers'd throughout the Nation ; to the great Scandal of the true Church , and the Encouragement of those of the Revolt . But this is yet the least part of the Mischief , or in effect of their Design : Their Ayme being to Tumultuate the People , and make a Partie against the Civil Power . Indeed their Pamphlets wear the Face of Church-disputes , and Modells ; but he that reads them through , and marques them narrowly , shall find the King's Authority the Question . That the late War against the King was Lawfull ; is a Position common to them all , and this they publiquely maintain , as the main Basis of the Cause . By which assertion , they cast the Bloud , and Guilt upon His Majestie ; make his Adhaerents Traitors : place the Supreme Authoritie in the two Houses : subject the Law to an Ordinance : the Government , to a Faction : and animate the Schismatiques to serve His Majestie in beeing as they did His Father . This is the drift of their seditious Libells , and of their Projects too ; if any judgement may be made upon their strict conformity of Argument , and Methode , to those that first embroyl'd us . How farr this matter may require your Care , becomes not me to meddle : I thought it might be worth your Honours Knowledge , and led by an Opinion of my Duty , this state of the Affair , ( such as it is ) I doe most humbly lay before you . His Majesty had no sooner set Foot upon English ground , but swarms of Pestilent papers were in a Readiness to enterteyn him . Some of the sharpest of them , I delivered to several Members of that Session , with the Stationers name for whom they were Printed , ( Smith , at the Bible in Cornhill , Croftons Agent ) but all too little to suppress them . One Passage is this that Follows ; speaking of the limited Power of Kings — This may serve to justify the proceedings of this Kingdom against the late King , who in a hostile way set himself to overthrow Religion , Parliaments , Lawes and Liberties . Hand in hand with this Pamphlet , came forth Smectymnuus ; Reviv'd , and recommended by Mr. Manton : and since that time , some Hundreds more of the same stamp , whose common business 't is , by Affronting of the Law , and Flattering of the Rabble to cast all back into Confusi●n . Among the many other Actours of Religion , I find not any man playes his part better , then the Author of That Treatise which hath extorted This : who indeed , abuses the People in very good terms . Some hasty Observations I have pass'd upon him , in favour of the easie , and deceivable Vulgar ; which Prailties I submit to your Honours Charity ; but the main Equitie of the Cause , I hope , will stand the test of your severest Justice : for doubtlesse much is due to the late King's Honour , as well as to his Blood. And somewhat ( with submission to your Wisdoms ) may be allow'd to his Partie : at least sufficient to protect them from Popular contempt , and the Infamous lash of every daring Libell . I dare not trust my self further with my own thoughts , and yet I take them to be such as very well consist with the Duty of Your Honours most Obedient and Humble Servant , Roger L'estrange . TO THE GOOD PEOPLE OF ENGLAND . THe Cm mon good is the Common pretence of all seditious Combinations : and it is no new thing for a Crafty Faction to impose upon a simple Multitude , empty Appearances , for Truths and Reason . But our Reformers scorn to stop at this dull , general method of Confusion . The Law of God must be subjected as well as that of the Nation ; we must call Treason , Loyalty , and commit Murther as a point of Conscience . No lesse than this is hinted in the Presbyterians Justification of the Scotish League and Quarrel : nor have they any other aim , than by procuring an Allowance of That War , to make way to Another . To this end , they disperse their poysonous Infusions into all Quarters of the Kingdom , under those very Forms of Piety , and Tenderness , by which they first betrayed us : and by those very means do they now prosecute afresh their first Intentions . That is , they labour to promote the Cause , by scandalous and rank Invectives , against the Church , and stirring up of Tumults to Reform it : by a loud Pharisaical ostentation of their own Holyness , & a sour churlish Censure of all Others : by sharp and sawcie Aspersions upon the Royal Party , and by Reflections yet more bitter and Audacious , upon his Sacred Majesty , and his Murtherd Father . To see these Libells passe with Freedom , and Impunitie , as if they were Authorized : and to observe what foul Mistakes are grounded upon these grosse Allowances , to the Kings Disadvantage , and all without Controll or Confutation . This , and no other Reason ( so God blesse me ) that is ; of private Passion , or Animosity of temper ) hath drawn this honest Folly from me . I reckon it my Duty to my Prince and Country , to my own Honour , and to the Oath I have taken , Where ever I find a publique Enemy to discover him : And being thus Commissioned , both by Authority and Conscience , I proceed . The Benefit of this Treatise is directed to the People , and the Design of it is onely to lay open the Presbyterian Juggle , that in one Age they be not twice deluded by the same Imposture . My Arguments are Drawn from their own Practises , and Positions : from Presidents of Former times ; ( Cartwright and his Disciples ) from what hath passed within our own Experience ; from what these very men have done , and from the very Logique of their own Writings , what they professe , they do intend to doe . As the Delusion is apparent , so is the Justice of Discoursing it . Can it be thought , that by the Act of Pardon , his Majestie ever meant to subject all the Sober and Legal Interests of the Nation , to be worried by a Faction ? Who of the Royal Party charges them ? Or if they did , what has the Law done to offend them ? Or say the Law be sharp against them , his Majesties unparalell'd Mercy has by his Royal Grace taken off the edge of it ; hazzarding himself to preserve these unthankfull People , which are now practising upon that Authoritie , that saved them . And I beseech you what is the goodly Subject of the Controversie ? The Presbyterian Discipline forsooth ; and Ceremonies of Mystical and Humane Institution . Touching the Former ; St. Augustine tells us , that Aërius turn'd Heretique upon the misse of a Bishopprick . ( the first assertor of Church-Parity ) I am affraid some of our Reverend Clergy are sick of his disease ; for their design is not so much to convert Bishops into Presbyters , as to make every Presbyter a Bishop . And then for Ceremonies ; they teaz and chafe the Common-people into a pettish scruple , that would be well and quiet enough without them . They make their Consciences like Skittish Jades , that boggle at their own shadowes , and start into a Precipice to avoid a Feather . They tell us too of Number , and press their Importunities in the Name of many thousands of the good people of the Nation ; so did the Kings insolent Judges , and with as much truth the one as the other . Let it be further noted , that in this case , the Factious and Schismatical Clergy are but ( with reverence ) Bawds to a State-faction . A Tumult for Religion , is within one step of Rebellion . Nor do they only shape their loose Opinions to their lewd purposes , but by all secret arts and practises , they form their Parties . But here I am confin'd . — All I design is only a fit Caution to all Well-meaning Subjects , not to believe their Eares against their Reason . If they can adde one Syllable , of Weight , to what they have already Promised , and Broken , I 'le give my self up to the Partie . This is not yet to cast a general Blot upon all persons of that Judgement , nor to excite any unquiet thoughts toward the rest : but only to present a Modest , and an Usefull warning to the people . So far am I from a desire to move any distemper , that I do positively affirm , should the King ( which is impossible ) pick out of all his Subjects those very persons , who upon twentie years experience , have proved through all extremities how much they love his Cause and Person , above their Lives and Fortunes : should , I say , these be pick'd out by his Majestie , and marqu'd for Slaves to those that with an equal Zeal and Steadynesse have opposed him ; Our Dutie were the same yet . Severitie , and Kindnesse may move us as Men , but not as Subjects : Obedience to Kings being a Divine Precept , and not subjected to those accidents which work upon our Passions . Nor shall this sense of my own Clearness betray me yet to a surprize ; for I fore-see a thousand mischiefs may befall me , and all which either private Malice , or open and bold Prejudice can cast upon me ; I am provided for . To those of the Presbyterian perswasion that truly love the King , I bear a more then Ordinarie Respect , because it is a more then Ordinarie Virtue , and for the rest , I care not . I am not now to learn the temper of the Rigid Presbyterians . They did me once the Honour to Condemn me , almost at Mid-night , by a Pack'd Committee , and without a Hearing ; well-nigh four years they kept me in Newgate upon that Account . This was a pretty tast of their good Nature . I do not now Complain , but I Confesse , it would have pleas'd me as well if the Bishop that Christens still by the Directory , had chosen some other Chancellour , instead of my Judge Advocate : — But I desire only to make a sober use of these Mistakes ; The King knowes nothing of them . God Preserve his Majesty , Convert his Enemies , & Comfort his Friends . Farewell . THE HOLY CHEAT : PROVING , From the undeniable Practices and Positions of the Presbyterians , that the design of that Party is to enslave both King and People , under the Masque of RELIGION , &c. IF the Authour of the Interest of England , &c. had meant fairly to the Question , he would as well have told us the Good of Bishops , and the Ill of Presbyters , as he hath done the contrary , and never have concluded For , or Against Either , from the Best Actions of the One , and the Worst of the Other . At least , a man would think this partiality of Method , might content him without the further service of those little Arts he uses , to aid , and recommend his Undertaking . The Present state of things , he represents quite other then it is : and raises thence a Political expedience of doing This , or That , — of Linking Interests , — never considering , that he Himself Creates that Interest , and gives Affairs the Face of that expedience . Page the 16. he laies his ground-work , In these following words . Among the various dis-agreeing Parties within this Kingdom , which seem to render it an indigested Mass of People ; two main ones appear above the rest , of so large an interest , that if by any means they might become no more twain , but one ; they would take in , and carry along the whole stream and strength of the Nation . And these two are the Episcopal and Presbyterian Parties , each of them highly laying claim to the Protestant Religion . And undoubtedly whilst these two remain divided , the Kingdom of England , and the Protestant Religion is divided against it self . This dis-union is removed , either by the Abolition of one Party , or by the Coalition of both into one . The former , if supposed possible , cannot be accomplished , but by violent & perillous ways and means . The latter is brought to pass by Accommodation , or mutual yielding . Moreover , there is a third way imaginable , Toleration indulged to the weaker side . In which of these ways lies the true Interest of the King and Kingdom , is the greatCase of the time , and the Subject of this Discourse , which presumes not to inform his Majesty , but in subordination unto his declared Moderation and Condescention , endeavours , by shewing things as they are , to convince and perswade Interessed persons , that the Pacification begun for this Interim may be entire and perfect , and fully setled for perpetual unity . Observation Let it be here observed , First , what the Difference is ; Next , betwixt whom ; In the Third place , the Danger of it ; And Lastly , the Expedient to remove it . It seems , the Episcopal , and Presbyterian Parties , United in Religion , cannot Agree yet about Discipline : and while These Two remain Divided , the Publick is in Danger . From hence results the Interest of Mutual Yielding — ( his Coalition of both Parties into One ) Upon which Hinge moves the whole frame of his Design ; and in two Pages , he gives the Presbyter possession of his Claim , Deciding with exceeding ease , the Case of King and Kingdom . Opinion is a great Mistress : for that which He so Magisterially Lays down and Challenges , appears to me mis-stated , and worse Managed . I must confess , his Reduction of all other Interests under Episcopal and Presbyterian , is , in some sense , no ill Dichotomy , that is , intended of the two main Parties , whereof , the One's against the Law , the Other for it : But why the single Presbyterian should be Esteemed the Ballance of the Nation , I cannot Comprehend . If they are so , they should do well to cast their Cause upon a Popular Vote , and try the Issue by the Poll. For Quiet sake , no matter , Many or Few , there may be Equity where there wants Number . We 'l rather see in point of Right what 't is they insist upon : Which , if exemption from Episcopal Authority , in things Indifferent , and of Humane Institution . We must plead judgment of Discretion too , as well as They : A Freedom , and Capacity to distinguish betwixt a Scandal Given and Taken ; betwixt a Dis-conformity proceeding from Conscience , and from Passion ; Where the Dissent proceeds from Conscience , a Toleration clears That Scruple : but our good peoples Liberty consists in Burthening Others , as well as Freeing Themselves , and that 's Intolerable . How many strange Indecencies are here , one upon the neck of another I First , here 's the Minor part imposing upon the Major : Secondly , a Novel , and Vulgar Imagination , bearing down an Apostolical Institution : Thirdly , a Private Opinion , contesting with a Solemn , and Publike Sanction : and Finally , the Subject of all this Earnestnesse , in their own phrase , is but a very Accommodable difference . From what I have said , I am perswaded that Severity to the Pertinacious Presbyter , is the true interest of this Nation , allowing yet Indulgence to the Conscientious . Well , but our Authour tells us , that Abolition if possible , is perillous , and Toleration only an Imaginary Remedy . Is not this to intimate that the Party makes less Conscience of a Tumult , than of a Ceremony : and to argue the necessity of Complying , from the danger of Refusing ? What would these people do if they had Power , that are so Bold without it ! And yet our Politician makes it the Kings Interest to Close with them . He means perchance , According to the Covenant : The Coalition , There , of all Schisms , and Heresies into One Interest , was of great Reason , and Important Service to the Commune work : but we are now advising how to Settle not to Disjoynt a Government , and to Incorporate Dis-agreements , were to begin upon a Principle of Confusion . As the Case stands with us , in my weak Judgement , Persons should rather be Indulg'd , than Parties . My Reason is this , Some Individuals of that Perswasion , have done His Majesty some Service , but ( to the best of my Remembrance ) the Entire Party , never any . Yet one Reflexion more . Allow these People all their Askings , in what concerns their Discipline , will they rest Quiet There , without a further Hankering after more ? ( the Legislative Power perhaps ; the Militia ; — or some such Trifle ) I am the more suspitious , because I do not well remember , where ever That Party was satisfied with less than All. Nor need I look far back for Instances to justifie my Fears ; But having in some measure hitherto Discovered his Foundation , we 'l forward now , and see what work he makes upon this Sandy Bottom , taking his Title-page in my way , for , to my thinking , he stumbles at the Threshold . — It runs thus . The Interest of England In the Matter of RELIGION , Unfolded in the Solution of these three QUESTIONS . I. Qu. VVhether the Presbyterian Party should in Justice or Reason of State be Rejected and Depressed , or Protected and Encouraged . II. Qu. VVhether the Presbyterian Party may be Protected and Encouraged , and the Episcopal not Deserted nor Disobliged . III. Qu. Whether the Upholding of both Parties by a just and equal Accommodation , be not in it self more desirable and more agreeable to the State of England , Then the absolute Exalting of the one Party , and the total Subversion of the other . Written by J. C. Observation I would fain know what is meant by , The Matter of Religion , as it stands here related to Civil Interest ? Doctrine it cannot be , for That were to advise a yielding upon a Principle of Policy , in Opposition to a Rule of Conscience : subjecting Interest of Religion , which is Eternal Happiness , to Reason of State , which regards but Temporal Convenience . If it be Discipline , What 's that to the Interest of England ? Our Settlement depends upon a due Obedience to the Establish'd Law ; not the Encouraging of froward Humors , by an Audacious and Mis-govern'd Zeal , under pretext of Conscience to Affront it . Let Authority Reform , and Private Persons either Obey , or Suffer ; we are to Answer for our own faults , not those of the Government . And in fine , If the Hill will not come to Mahomet , let Mahomet go to the Hill. After a pleasant Breviate of the Story of our late Troubles , handsomely Penn'd indeed ) in his tenth Page he takes his Biass . At length ( says he ) a full Tide of Concurring Accidents carries him ( the Duke of Albemarle , then General ) to a closure with the sober part of the Parliamentary Party , who from first to last intended onely a Reformation , and due Regulation of things in Church and State , but abhorred the thought of destroying the King , or changing the Fundamental Laws of the Kingdom . Observation I thought the Act of Pardon and Oblivion had quieted all Animosities , and silenc'd all Discourses of this Quality ; but 't is , it seems , The Interest of England in the matter of Religion , to keep the Quarrel waking ; and by Asserting the proceedings of the two Houses in the late War , to engage this King within the danger of his Fathers President . To be as free with the Authour , as he is with his Majesty , I 'le put his meaning in a little plainer English. Beside the Grand Division of the Nation into a Royal and a Popular Party ; that Party which he here calls Parliamentary , is again Split ; and under this Subdivision are Comprised , those which did Actually destroy the King ; and those which by good Fortune , did it not . ( Presbyterians , and Independents . ) The Sober part , ( meaning the Presbyterian ) He justifies from first to last , even to their very Intentions . ( I must tread warily , for I am here upon a narrow and a slippery path . ) Not to Dispute the Gentlemans Intuitive Knowledge ; we 'l rather modestly believe that They mistook their way , then He , their meaning : for certainly , the Murther of the King , was not the onely Unlawful violence Acted upon that Sacred Person , and he that stops there , does as much as nothing . I would not touch upon this Subject , were I not bound by Oath , and Duty , to discharge my Soul , in what concerns the Honor , and the Safety of my Prince . Can the first Cause asserted by both Houses , in opposition to his late Majesty , be justifi'd , and not the King condemn'd ? And is not the Honor and Safety of his Majesty that now is , concern'd in these Indignities upon his Murther'd Father ? What was Then lawful , is so still : and he that but implicitly charges the Last King , strikes at This. The Text will bear no other sense without a Torture . But I shall by-and-by , compare him with himself . In the mean while we may explain one Presbyterian by another . Douglas , in 1651. preach'd the Kings Coronation-Sermon . Which since his Majesties Return , is over and over again Reprinted . A King ( says he ) abusing his Power , to the overthrow of Religion , Laws , and Liberties , which are the very fundamentals of this Contract and Covenant , may be controlled and opposed ; and if he set himself to overthrow all these by Arms , then they who have power , as the Estates of a Land , may and ought to resist by Arms ; Because he doth , by that opposition , break the very Bonds , and overthroweth all the Essentials of this Contract and Covenant . This may ☜ serve to Justifie the proceedings of this Kingdom against the late King , who in an hostile way set himself to overthrow Religion , Parliaments , Laws and Liberties . I think this needs no Comment , — About the same time , Smectymnuus was revived by Mr. Manton , ( a most auspicious welcome doubtless to his Majesty ) wherein five Champions of the Cause take up the Cudgels against one Bishop , on the behalf of scandalous Pamphlets , and Tumultuary Petitions against Episcopacy . This is the naked Truth , what ever the Jolly Priest may tell the Reader , of the * Faction against which they dealt . Five Orthodox Divines , he says , were the Authors . Four of the Five I shall not mention , the Fifth was Marshal , of whose Divinity , a Taste ; that by the sweet Agreement , we may the better judge of Mr. Manton's . In a Letter printed 1643. arguing for the Authority of the two Houses , page 14. Thus. Let every soul in England be subject to King and Parliament , for they are the higher Powers ordained unto you of God ; whosoever therefore resisteth King and Parliament , resisteth the Ordinance of God ; and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation . The man was no Conjurer , yet he had wit enough , when Presbytery went down , to Court the rising Interest ; and ' though the Common-prayer was an Abomination , to marry his Daughter by it , for fear of After-claps . But I suppose 't was huddl'd up , as 't is in Mr. Manton's Church , that no man might be able to make Oath 't was not the Directory . If the Case had been concerning * the Allowance of Christian Burial to a Gentleman that was Quartered for his Loyalty . Or to determine in the great Point of the late Kings Death , ( upon an Anniversary Fast ) whether or no 't was Murther : Truly considering the potent Arguments brought on both sides , 't is possible that Mr. Marshal would have contented himself ( as well as his Neighbours ) barely to put the Case , and leave the point at last undecided to his Auditory . Not to spend time , and paper needlesly , The whole stream of the Disciplinarians runs this way : onely perhaps more or less Bold , and Open , according to the present strength , or weakness of the Faction . But to return : Can any thing be more gentle , then A Reformation , and due Regulation of things in Church and State ? ( words smoother than Oyle , yet are they very Swords . ) First , To Reform , and Regulate , belongs to the Supreme Magistrate ; if they intended That , they were to blame . Now to take it in a Qualifi'd and softer sense ; 't was a Due Regulation they intended . To put this General notion in more Intelligible terms ; upon this point depends no less then all that 's dear to every honest man. The Dignity of the King , the Liberty of the Subject , the Freedome of Parliaments , and the Honor of the Nation . God knows my thoughts , I do not envy any man , either the Benefit of his Majesty's Mercy , or the Blessing of his Favour , that hath the Grace at last not to Abuse it . I look upon his Royal Act of Pardon with Reverence ; and upon every Soul within that pale as in a Sanctuary . But yet I do not understand a Pardon for one Rebellion , to be a Dispensation for another ; nor how the Argument lies from Fact to Right . Under these two words , Due Regulation ; Thus much is comprehended , ( waiving less Differences and Greater . ) 1. The transferring of the Power of chusing Great Officers , and Ministers of State ; from the King to the Two Houses . 2. All matters of State in the Interval of Parliaments must be Debated , and Concluded by a Counsel so chosen , and in number not above twenty five , nor under fifteen ; and no Publick Act esteemed of any Validity , as proceeding from the Royal Authority , unless it be done by the Advice and Consent of the Major part of that Counsel ; Attested under their Hands . And These too sworn to the sense of Both Houses . 3. The Lords and Commons must be intrusted with the Militia . 4. His Majesty may appoint , but the Two Houses , or the Counsel ( in such manner as aforesaid ) must Approve of All Governors of Forts , and Castles . Lastly , No Peers hereafter made , must Sit , or Vote in Parliament , unless Admitted thereunto by the Consent of Both Houses . Upon these Terms ; his Majesty shall be supported , in Honor , and plenty ; by his most Humble and Faithful Subjects , who have in their Thoughts and Desires nothing more precious , ( next to the Honor and immediate Service of God ) than their just , and faithful performance of their Duty to the King , and Kingdom . This is the Due Regulation they Intended : ( for sure they Meant what they Proposed , to our Late Soveraign . I speak not this , of Persons , but of the Gross of the Party ; nor to reproach That neither , but to remove a Scandal from the Ashes of that Blessed Martyr , and to direct a Reverence towards his Successor . What provocation have these restless People , now to revive This Question : but an unruly Impotency of Passion against the Government ? This is their way . In Generals , they justifie from first to last , the Presbyterians Cause . The multitude , they look into Particulars : and from those Injuries which the late King suffered , draw Inferences Dis-honourable , and Dangerous to this . In the next Periode , me-thinks he falls upon a Non-sequitur . The Re-admission of the Secluded Members , ( he says ) did necessarily draw after it , the Restoring of King , Lords , and Commons , according to the antient Constitution . Not Necessarily ( under favour ) according to the antient Constitution : ( I will not say nor probably : but ) there were two shrewd Blocks cast in the way . The First , in the Militia ; where no Commissionated Officer was to Act , that should not first acknowledge in these words , viz. I do Acknowledge and Declare , that the Warre undertaken by both Houses of Parliament in their defence against the Forces raised in the Name of the late King , was Just and Lawful ; and that Magistracy and Ministery , are the Ordinances of God. The Second , was in the Exclusion of the Royal Party from the next Choice , as followeth . Resolved , that all and every Person who have advised , or voluntarily aided , abeited , or assisted , in any War against the Parliament ( since the first day of January 1641. ) his or their sons , unless he or they have since Manifested their good affections to this Parliament , shall be uncapable to be elected to serve as members of the next Parliament . Now how a Choice thus limited in the House , and Principled in the Field , should Necessarily set us right , does not to me appear ? Perhaps it was the most the Time would bear : but God forbid , That Declaration charging the Guilt , and Blood of the late War upon the King , should stand upon Record to future Generations . Who ever affirms That War was lawful , does beyond Question meditate Another ; not to say more than needs , It blasts the Memory of the late King , and upon the King that now is , it reflects many Mischiefs , subjecting both his Dignity and Person , to his Fathers hazards . It administers Argument for a New War ; and shakes the very Foundation of Royalty . Grant That , the Act of Oblivion is on the wrong side ; If the King was in Fault , the Presbyterians must Grant the Pardon . From the clear reason of the matter in it self , and from the obvious Consequences ; beside that Justice which both King and People owe to the Ashes of a Father and a Soveraign , It seems to me of high Concern , to Counter-State that Declaration , and place the Militia of this Nation now in such hands , as will acknowledge the late Kings Quarrel was Defensive . I am the bolder in this Particular , because I find the Faction pressing beyond both Modesty and Reason , upon this Bottom . Where Majesty it self is Affronted , it were a second Injury to allow the Servant better Quarter than the Master . But they are very Exact and Careful in this Particular : as will appear in what follows . After a dreadful Earthquake , shaking all the Powers of the Kingdom , and over-turning the very Foundations , and after a new frame of things erected standing for divers years , and seemingly stated for perpetuity , the Regal Family and Government is raised up again , not by the power or policy of that Party , who fought under the Banner of his late Majesty in the Wars , between him and both Houses of Parliament ; But by the restless desire of the Nation , and the vigorous actings of the City of London , with the concurrence of the Secluded Members of the long Parliament , in conjunction with that Renowned Person , who then held the power of the Sword. Let it be noted here , that ( by His Confession ) the War was between the King and Both Houses of Parliament . Now to that Party who fought under the Banner of His late Majesty . ( Whom he might have spared for the General 's sake . ) Truly , considering what havock hath been made of them , by Slaughters , Extrajudicial Sentences , Plunders , Sequestrations , Imprisonments , Banishments ; shipping them away into Plantations , &c. — And this for twenty years continuance . 'T is no great wonder to find some Abatement of their Power . But to Affirm that they contributed nothing to his Majesties Restauration , is very unkind , and something Rash. The Nation did , ( he says ) the City of London , and the Secluded Members of the Long Parliament ; but not That Party . ( A pleasant and phantastical Dis-junction . ) This way of barely Affirming , and Denying ; Crying One Party Up , and the Other Down , and proving nothing , is neither Mannerly , nor Prudent . How comes this man of Metaphysical Inspection , that reads the very Thoughts of the Presbyterians , and seems so well enformed in all the Actings of the Royal Party : How comes he by this wondrous Insight and Intelligence ? Does he not find that all he says is nothing , unless he can see things Invisible , and prove Negatives ? Is This the Work of the Spirit of Pacification ? or will he tell us , in the holy Dialect , that 't is the Enmity betwixt the Seed of the Woman , and the Seed of the Serpent ? So far were We , ( for I write my self of that Party ) from this Unfriendly and Unchristian Temper of Dis-uniting , that we Declared unanimously against it , binding our selves by all that 's Sacred , to an Eternal Union with all Parties , in order to the Restauration of His Majesty , all Differences apart ; of what Degree or Quality soever . In This , we had an eye to the King's Interest , and to the Nation 's ; for it Referred both to his Majesty's Return , and to a Lasting Peace ; the Former being Facilitated by that Conjunction of Interests ; and the Latter , provided for by a Conciliation of Affections , to be wrought by suppressing all Motions toward Revenge in the one Party , and the Fears of it in the Other . It had been good Manners to have met us half way ; but truly high Discretion , as well as Common Equity , to Close with us , and entertain the Offer . But far from this , we do not onely get not one Good word , but many a Bad one : Such , as those People that will never Leave the King , are to expect from such as do not love Him. Our Adversary talks much of the Gospel . Is it a Gospel-precept , to render Evil for Good ▪ What I have shewed already , that the Kings Party did , amounts to somewhat more than nothing . We 'l see a little further , allowing yet to all that Acted in that work their share of Glory . The Duke of Albemarle was the Leading Card , then in the head of an Army , better dispos'd to his Command , than Design : and to him the Honest part of the City and Nation were no ill Seconds . But till he had tasted and tri'd them , he did well to walk warily : and rather take the middle and safer way , of Gratifying all Interests then on foot , than the more Positive , and Hazardous , of Disobliging any Two Parties , in favour of the Third . For there were then Three several Interests in Play : the King 's , the Presbyterian's , and the Phanatique's : The Royal party press'd for a Free Choice and Convention , without Prelimination . The Presbyterians urg'd a Re-admission of the Secluded Members . The Phanatiques , they were for filling up the House , according to such Qualifications as the Rump should resolve upon . The course the General steer'd was this ; — the Rump Continued ; the Secluded Members Returned ; and the Royallists were satisfied with the Assurance of a new Choice soon after . His Excellence acting in this Affair rather as a Conciliator , than a Party , and in order to a Settlement , giving things the best Consistency they would then bear . But had the antient Stock of Royallists no hand at all in this procurement ? It never came to blows , so that the matter Rests upon the Effects of Policy and Counsel ; whereof our undertaker cannot give any absolute account ; nor shall we in our just Apology , exalt our selves , and cry , We brought the King in . That 's Presbyterian Language . We did not drive him out , we 'l say ; and that we joyn'd with many Thousands , as honest as our selves , in Duty to Restore him . Whether there was place for Action , and to do the King a Service that way , we never Articled for Offices or Rewards , but without further care of Interest , persu'd our Duties . In fine the Loyal part of the Nation was animated by the same Soul , joyn'd Stocks , and Counsels : and many Thousands of brave Fellows that never saw the King , were forward and Ambitious to Die for him . I could say what was undertaken by the old Royal Party , particularly , in Hewson's scuffle , ( and indeed where not ) but that it casts a Slur upon some of his Majesty's new Friends . This however , those Lads of the City , that would have done the work without more ado , had they not been Muzzl'd by some of their Mungrel Magistrates , that Din'd with the Mayor , and Supp'd with the Committee of Safety : those honest people will , if need be , bear witness for us , and in like manner the whole Nation , that by Action , Counsel , Writing , we did all that was possible in the Business . Neither does what I have delivered in defence of the Royal Party , disagree with his Majesty's testimony of the Other , in His Gracious Speech to the House of Peers for hastning the Act of Indempnity : which yet our Author cites against us . My Lords , If you do not joyn with Me in extinguishing those fears , which keep mens hearts awake , and apprehensive of safety and security , you keep Me from performing My promise , which if I had not made , I am perswaded that neither I nor you had been now here : I pray you let Vs not deceive those who brought Vs , or permitted Vs to come together . Observation The King does not There say so much who Brought Him in , as who Permitted His Restoring ; implying , that He was fain to Condition for that too ; but withal , a great Earnestness to perform His promise . Had but this Gentleman considered as well what the King said at the Passing of the Indempnity , as at the Hastning of it , this wrangle would have been saved ; I 'l do him the service to mind him of it . I do very willingly pardon all that is pardoned by this Act of Indempnity , to that time which is mentioned in the Bill . Nay , I will tell you , That from that time to this day , I will not use great severity , except in such Cases where the Malice is Notorious , and the Publick Peace exceedingly concern'd . But for the time to come , the same Discretion and Conscience which disposed me to the Clemency I have express'd , which is most agreeable to My Nature , will oblige me to all Rigour and Severity , how contrary soever it be to My Nature , towards those who shall not now Acquiesce , but continue to manifest their Sedition and Dislike of the Government , either in Actions or Words . And I must conjure you all ( My Lords and Gentlemen ) to concur with me in this just and necessary Severity ; and that you will in your several Stations , be so jealous of the publick Peace , and of My particular Honor , that you will cause Exemplary Justice to be done upon those who are guilty of Seditious Speeches or Writings , as well as those ☜ who break out into Seditious Actions : And that you will believe those who delight in reproaching and traducing My Person , not to be well affected to you and the publick Peace . Never King valued himself more upon the Affections of his People , than I do ; Nor do I know a better way to make My Self sure of your Affections , than by being Just and Kind to you all ; and whilst I am so , I pray let the World see , that I am possessed of your Affections . Thus far the Ground-work , now the goodly Structure . His Majesty thus brought back to a willing and free-spirited people , by their own Act , beholds his undoubted Interest set forth to his hand , and made plain before him ; which is no other , than a well-tempered and composed state of Affairs , both Religious and Civil , in all his Dominions , by the abolishing of former Differences , and the reconciling of all reconcileable Parties ; and especially of those grand Parties , which ( if made one ) do upon the matter carry the whole Nation . And this His Majesties Wisdom hath already observed , in that excellent Proclamation against vitious , debauched , and prophane persons , in these words , [ That the Reconciliation and Union of hearts and affections , can onely , with God's blessing , make Us rejoyce in each other , and keep Our Enemies from rejoycing . ] And this is the earnest expectation and hope of the Religious , and well affected to the publick Tranquillity , that the King , our supreme Head and Governor , whose gracious Disposition doth not suffer him to cleave to any divided part of his Subjects , and to reject others that are alike Loyal , will , as a common Father , protect and cherish all those that are found capable and worthy , and become our great Moderator by his Authority and Wisdom , to lessen Differences , and allay Animosities , between dissenting Brethren , which already agree in the main points of Religion . Having hitherto asserted , that those who fought under the late King's Banner , were not his Majesty's Friends ; and that those who fought against it , ever were ; he proceeds now to a Conclusion suitable to his premises , and states the Interest of the King in favour of that Voluntary Mistake : directing an Accord betwixt all Reconcilable Parties , and an indulgence toward all those that are found Capable , and Worthy . In Both ( and in All ) Cases , the Presbyterian himself must be the Judge : and then we know what will become of Royallists and Bishops . The Kings Friends have ever had the Honor to be Divided ( by these People ) into persons Popishly affected , Evil Counsellors , and Loose Livers ; and it is evident , that they design , under these Limitations of Reconcilable , Capable , and Worthy , to cast all such as Conscientiously , and frankly adhere to Monarchy , and Episcopacy , out of the terms of their pretended Pacification . All those that They find Capable and Worthy , and esteem Reconcilable , shall be admitted . Now to the Question . 1. Quest. Whether in Justice or Reason of State the Presbyterian party should be Rejected and Depressed , or Protected and Encouraged ? Observation It would be first agreed what 's meant by the Presbyterian Party : We 'l weigh the Justice and Reason of the Proposition after . His own Remarque upon it is not amiss . As concerning their true Character , the Notation of the name whereby they are called , is both too shallow , and too narrow for it . The word Presbyterian hath not sufficient depth to go to the root of the Matter , nor breadth sufficient to comprehend this sort of men . That Form of Ecclesiastical Government by Parochial and Classical Presbyteries , Provincial and National Assemblies , is remote enough from their main Cause , and those firm Bonds that make them eternally one , in respect whereof many that approve a regulated Episcopacy , will be found of their number . Observation 'T is truly and well said . Their Cause is not the Form , but the Exercise of Government : for they like well enough to have that Power Themselves , which they condemn in Others . Nor do I doubt but that many of them approve a regulated Episcopacy ; that is , a Presbyter in a Bishop's seat , where the Office appears Regulated by the Person , as 't is in a Regulated Monarchy ; Where the King 's subject to the Law , and the Law to the two Houses . But I condemn not All , that wear that Character . The Wise , and Honest Few of that Denomination , who keep themselves within the terms of Duty , and the Question ; such as can talk of the Church , without disturbing the State ; and debate their private Opinions , without giving publick Scandal : For these , I have much Charity , and Reverence , and wish as great a tenderness toward them , as they themselves desire . But where I see a Bold seditious Faction , bidding defiance to the Civil Magistrate under the Churches Colours : I find not any thing so Sacred in the Name of Presbyterian , as to protect a Turbulent Party assuming that Appellation . It will be urg'd , that they do as little Justifie the Seditious , as I condemn the Sober Presbyterian . But to agree that point , I 'l prove , that the same Party , for whom they plead , and against whom I engage , are no less Enemies to the King , and People , than to Bishops : and , which is more , from their own practises and positions , I 'l make it good . Yet one would hardly guess this from their following Character . As concerning their main and rooted principles , they admire and magnifie the holy Scriptures , and take them for the absolute perfect rule of Faith and Life , without the supplement of Ecclesiastical Tradition ; yet they deny not due respect and reverence to venerable Antiquity . They assert the study and knowledge of the Scriptures , to be the duty and priviledge of all Christians , that according to their several capacities , being skilful in the Word of Righteousness , they may discern between good and evil , and being filled with all goodness , may be able to exhort and admonish one another : Yet they acknowledge the necessity of a standing Gospel-Ministery , and receive the directive authority of the Church , not with implicite Faith , but the Judgment of discretion : They hold the teaching of the Spirit necessary , to the saving knowledge of Christ : Yet they do not hold that the Spirit bringeth new Revelations , but that he opens the eyes of the understanding to discern what is of old revealed in the written Word : They exalt divine Ordinances , but debase humane Inventions in Gods Worship , particularly Ceremonies properly Religious , and of Instituted Mystical signification : Yet they allow the natural expressions of Reverence and Devotion , as kneeling , and lifting up of the hands and eyes in prayer ; as also of those meer Circumstances of decency and order , the omission whereof would make the service of God either undecent , or less decent . As they worship God in the spirit , according to the simplicity of Gospel Institutions , so they rejoyce in Christ Jesus , having no confidence in a legal Righteousness , but desire to be found in him , who is made unto us Rigteousness by gracious Imputation : Yet withal they affirm constantly , that good works of piety towards God , and of justice and charity towards men , are necessary to salvation . Their Doctrine bears full conformity with that of the Reformed Churches , held forth in their publick Confessions , and particularly with that of the Church of England , in the nine and thirty Articles , onely one or two passages peradventure excepted , so far as they may import the asserting of Prelacy , and human Mystical Ceremonies . They insist much on the necessity of Regeneration , and therein lay the ground-work for the practise of godliness . They press upon themselves and others the severe exercise , not of a Popish , outside , formal , but a spiritual and real mortification , and self-denyal , according to the power of Christianity . They are strict observers of the Lords Day , and constant in Family prayer . They abstain from oathes , yea , petty oathes , and the irreverent usage of Gods Name in common discourse ; and , in a word , they are sober , just , and circumspect in their whole behaviour . Such is the temper and constitution of this party , which in its full latitude lies in the middle between those that affect a Ceremonial Worship , and the heighth of Hierarchical Government on the one hand , and those that reject an ordained Ministery , and setled Church-order , and regular Vnity on the other hand . Observation Here is much said , and little proved ; onely a Pharisaical Story , of what they are not , and what they are ; that they are not as other men are , and their bare word for all . The Tale is well enough told to catch the silly vulgar , that look no further then Appearances : But to a serious person , how gross , and palpable is the Imposture ! In the main points of Doctrine they fully agree with the nine and thirty Articles : and 't is but peradventure , that they differ , in one or two passages , so far as they may import the asserting of Prelacy , and humane Mystical Ceremonies . ] Behold the mighty Subject of an Holy War ; the goodly Idol , to which we have sacrific'd so much Christian blood . Can any man imagine this the true and conscientious reason of the Quarrel ? Or that the middle way our Presbyter steers , betwixt Phanaticism and Popery , is the just measure of the Case : But hear him on , and he 'l tell ye , the Party is Numerous as well as Godly . VVithin these extensive limits the Presbyterian Party contains several thousands of learned , godly , orthodox Ministers , being diligent and profitable Preachers of the Word , and exemplary in their Conversation ; among whom there are not a few that excel in Polimical and Practical Divinity , also of the judicious , sober , serious part of the people , ( in whose affections his Majesty is most concern'd ) they are not the lesser number . By means of a practical Ministery , this way , like the Leaven in the Gospel-parable , hath spread and season'd the more considerate and teachable sort in all parts of the Kingdom , and especially in the more civiliz'd places , as Cities and Towns. Observation It had been well our Undertaker had put his Orthodox , and Learned Thousands upon the List ▪ for that Party is a little given to false Musters . How many forg'd Petitions and Remonstrances ; what Out-eries from the Press and Pulpit , in the name of the People , when yet the forti'th part of them were never privy to their own Askings ! Of * ninety and seven Ministers within the walls of London , fourscore and five were driven from their Churches , and Houses , at the beginning of our Troubles . And notwithstanding the monstrous Clamours , which occasion'd the Conference at Hampton-Court in 1603. * Arch-bishop Spotswood tells us , that [ of above nine thousand Ministers , but forty nine appeared upon the Roll , that stood out , and were deposed for disconformity . Such a noise will a few Disturbers cause in any Society , where they are tollerated . ] Touching his Practical Ministery ; I 'l grant , the Cause is much beholden to the Pulpit , and that , without the aid of Seditious Lectures , I do believe the strife had never come to Blood : But yet these Preachments did not the whole Business . Do not we know what Craft and Violence hath been used to Cheat and Force the People ; what Protestations , Covenants , and Negative Oathes have been imposed , upon pain of Imprisonment , Banishment , Sequestration ? Have not all Schools , and Nurceries of Piety and Learning , been subjected to the Presbyterian mode , and many thousands of Godly , and Reverend Divines , reduced to beg their Bread , because they would not Covenant : yet all too little to procure either a General Kindess , or submission to their Principles ? For the Reasons afore-going , the infringement of due Liberties in these matters , would perpetuate most unhappy Controversies in the Church from Age to Age. Let the former times come in , and give good Evidence . As touching Ceremonies , the Contest began early , even in King Edward's Reign , between Hooper and other Bishops . The Consecration of Hooper , Elect Bishop of Glocester being stayed , because he refused to wear certain Garments used by Popish Bishops , he obtained Letters from the King and from the Earl of Warwick , to the Arch-bishop of Canterbury and others , that he might not be burthened with certain Rites and Ceremonies , and an Oath common●y used in the Consecration of Bishops , which were offensive to his Conscience . Nevertheless he found but harsh dealing from his fellow-Bishops , whereof some were afterwards his fellow-Martyrs , and Ridley among others , who afterwards thus wrote unto him , when they were both Prisoners for the Gospel . [ However in time past in certain Circumstances and By-matters of Religion , your wisdom , and my simplicity ( I grant ) hath a little jarred , each of us following the abundance of his own sense and judgment : Now be assured , that even with my whole heart , in the Bowels of Christ , I love you in the truth , and for the truth's sake which abideth in us . ] Some godly Martyrs in Queen Mary's days disliked the Ceremonies , and none of them died in the defence of Ceremonies , Liturgy , and Prelacy , in opposition to all other Ecclesiastical Government and Order . It was the Protestant verity which they witnessed , and sealed in blood , in opposition to Popery ; especially the prodigious Opinion of Transubstantiation , and the Abomination of the Romish Mass or Sacrifice . In the same bloody days , certain English Protestants being fled for refuge into Germany , and setled at Frankford , were divided amongst themselves about the Service-book , even with scandalous breach of Charity and in the issue , the Congregation was sadly broken and dissipated . What is intended by Due Liberty , might be a Doubt , did not the Coherence explain it to be a Freedom of Acting to all intents and purposes at pleasure , ( whether without Law , or against it , no matter ) according to such presidents of Former times , as our Resolver refers unto , and justifies . He tells us , The contest about Ceremonies began early ; and so in truth it did : For in the time of King Edward , there was a wambling toward the Geneva Discipline ; but neither very earnest , nor very popular : and That ( so far as I can learn ) procured even by the Author of that Platform , Calvin himself . Concerning Godly Martyrs in Queen Mary's days ; Some suffered that disliked the Ceremonies , Others , that liked them . That none died in defence of them , is a Remarque might have been spared ; For the Question was matter of Faith , not Discipline . The Frankford Breach indeed was a sad Story , but yet , considering the Dividers , of no great Honor , or Authority to our Friends purpose . Knox and Whittingham were the prime Ring-leaders in this Disorder , who upon some Disputes started about the Service-book , joyning with others of the Consistorian stamp , drew such an extract of it , as they thought fit , and sent it to Calvin , requesting his Opinion of it . Such was the Answer they received , as blew the whole Congregation into a flame ; from whence arose that scandalous breach ensuing . viz. The English Service being established , Whitingham , Gilby , Goodman , with some others , Divided , and went to Geneva , whence , both by Letters and Discourses , they tampered the Ministers and People of England and Scotland into a revolt , encouraging them to set up their new Discipline , in despite of all Opposers whatsoever . The Gospel returning under Queen Elizabeth , these differences were revived and held up by Disputes , Writings , and Addresses to several Parliaments ; and there were great thoughts of heart for these Divisions . Observation Why this is English yet : it is but turning now to Queen Elizabeth's Reign to understand these people , and unriddle the Due Liberty they plead for . ( But of This , in its proper place ) Having drawn down the Quarrel from Edward the Sixth , to the blessed Restauration of Charls the Second , ( whom God protect ) he proceeds to descant upon the Present . The greatest part of the Ministers named Puritans , yielded conformity to those controverted Rites and Forms , that were by Law or Canons established , as to things burdensome not desirable , in their nature supposed indifferent , but in their use many ways offensive ; and groaning more and more under the yoke of bondage , ( as they conceived ) they waited for deliverance , and were in the main , of one soul and spirit with the Nonconformists . And even then the way called Puritanism , did not give , but get ground . But now the Tenents of this way are rooted more than ever ; and those things formerly imposed , are no● by many , if not by the most of this way , accounted not onely burdensome , but unlawful . Observation But is it so , that Matters by Law established , in themselves Indifferent , and onely Burthensome to day , ( rebu●sic stantibus ) may become Vnlawful to morrow ? By the same Rule , Kings may be taken away as well as Bishops ; all Dignities and Powers being alike submitted to a Popular Level : For if the People shall think fit to say , the Magistrate is unlawful , as well as the Ceremony , by the same reason he may destroy One with the Other ; and Virtually he does it . We know , the Rites and Forms of Worshipping , are not of the Essence of Religion , and the huge bustle about Discipline , is onely an Appeal to Ignorance and Tumult . The Church must be Reformed . By whom ? Not by the Rabble . What means this application then of so many factious Sermons , and Libels to the People ? They are not Judges of the Controversie . But in a Cause more capable of Force than Argument , they do well to Negotiate , where Clamour , and Pretence , weigh more than Modesty and Reason . If a man asks , by what Commission Act these Zelots ? They answer readily : 'T is God's Cause , and better obey God than Man. He that said , Give not Credit to every Spirit ; I suppose knew as much of Gods mind , as our Illuminates . Is not mistaken , or perverted Scripture , the ground of all Schism and Heresie ? Counsels may erre , they say , and cannot Presbyterians ? How comes this Party to be more infallible than their Neighbours ? If they are not , let but all other people of Different Judgments take the same Freedom they do , of out-cries against any thing , under pretext of Conscience ; let any man imagine the confusion . For , where every man is his own Judge , All men shall dispute , till each Particular condemns himself ; so that the Strife is Endless , and the Event Restlesness , and Confusion . This comes of not submitting to some Final , and over-ruling Decision . Upon this pinch at a dead lift , they fly to their Judgment of Discretion : which leaves them still at Liberty to shape their Duty to their Profit . They tell us ; They 'l be tryed by the Word of God : not heeding , how That is again to be tri'd by Them : so that in Issue , their private Interpretation of the Scriptures must pass for the Law Paramount , to which both King and People are equally , and indispensably subjected . Undoubtedly , what God commands , we ought to do , and not to do what he forbids . This , in few words , comprises the Duty of Reasonable Nature , without distinction either of Offices or Persons . But these inviolable Fundamentals apart , the Accidents of Worship , the Modes of doing this or that ; The How , When , Where , &c. are left various , and variable , according to the several Requiries of Manners , Times , and Places , at the Discretion of those Rulers whom God sets over us . Where we find matters of this middle nature orderly setled , and dispos'd , we are commanded to submit to these Humane Ordinances for the Lords sake ; and not to Obtrude upon the Word for Conscience , such Disagreements , as effectually arise from Peevishness , or want of due Enquiry . But why do I talk to those that stop their Ears ? Their minds are fix'd in this Opinion , after a long time of search and practice , and are not like to be reduc'd to the practice of former times . This is but Martin Junior Revived , who says , That it will be very dangerous to our State , to maintain two contrary Factions ; That the Magistrates are then bound , even for the quieting of our State , to put down the one ; That those that stand for the Discipline , neither can nor will give it over , ( so as they will not be put down ) and that the said Magistrates cannot maintain the corruption of our Church , namely , Arch-bishops and Bishops , without the discontentment of their Subjects . Me-thinks the man of peace grows peremptory . Will not this Argument from Search and Practice , absolve them from Obedience to the King , as well as to the Church ? Has not the Regal Power been scann'd and sifted , as well as the Ecclesiastick ? or have their practises been more favourable to his Majesty , than to the Clergy ? But ( their minds are fix'd , and not to be reduc'd . ) This is to say , that if the Law and they cannot agree , they 'l tug for 't , upon this supposition , thus he concludes . That ( in all reason , the imposing of such matters of Controversie , as by so many are held unlawful , and by those that have a Zeal for them judged indifferent , not necessary , cannot procure the peace of Church and Kingdom . ) Observation I say on the Contrary , That the peace of Church and Kingdom cannot be preserved , where every private and Licentious spirit shall dare to Question the Authority of either . In fine , admit the Scruple truly conscientious . It would be well yet , that such as fault the present Government , would Frame another , that should be liable to no exceptions , before they alter This. If that cannot be done , let us Rest Here ; for if we are bound to change till all are pleas'd , never must we expect to be at quiet . Some Consciences will have no Magistrates at all ; Others will Govern those they have , or Quarrel with them . To Reconcile these Two in any end of Settlement , is as Impossible , as 't is Unsafe to put much power into the Hands of People , so dangerously principled ; ( But to Destroy a Government none agree better , and this we speak upon Experience . ) From hence to his 40th . page , I find little but Rapture , in commendation of the Presbyterians , with now and then a snap at the late Prelates , which is beside my purpose . See now his Complement to the King. Blessed be God for our gracious Soveraign , who makes it his care and study to allay distempers , and compose differences by his just and gracious Concessions already published concerning Ecclesiastical Affairs . Observation For fear his Majesty's Concessions should be taken for a pure Act of Grace , they are epitheted , Just , as well as Gracious , to lessen the Favour , by intimating the Duty ; what Return gives the Presbyterian Party for this Indulgence ? Are they not troublesome as ever both in their Writings and Contrivements ? That Declaration was no sooner publique , but a Petition was exhibited from divers Ministers in and about London , for more Liberty , with some formalities indeed of Gratitude for That . How many bold and scandalous Invectives since that time , both from the Press and Pulpit , against the Rites of the Church , and the Episcopal Clergy : Nay , and against the Sacred Majesty of That very Person , to whose Incomparable Clemency they owe their Heads and Fortunes ? One observation here , to shew , that onely severity can work upon this Faction ; * The single imprisonment of Crofton hath quieted that Party more , than all the multiply'd , and transcendent Mercies of His Majesty . That worthy Gentleman , in his Epistle Dedicatory to the Liturgical Considerator , tells us , that [ The Common-prayer-book hath been expell'd by a lawful Authority , ] ( referring to an Ordinance of January 3. 1644. ) If this be not Treason , then Scot and Peters were no Traitors . The Considerator further assures us , Page 34. [ That very few Christians that know the Power of Godliness , care for medling with the Liturgy . ] I hope his Majesty may pass for one of those Few . A great Assertor of his Principles is the Authour of the Covenanters Plea , although in some Respects more plausibly couch'd ; in others Bolder ; treating His Majesty with a most unpardonable Insolence , and with a Suitable regard all his Episcopal Friends as they fall in his way . I should exceedingly wonder how he scap'd a lash from the last Convention , especially Dedicating that reverend piece to the Commons then Assembled , did I not consider , that Those very Pamphlets , whereof His Majesty complains in His Declaration , touching Ecclesiastical Affairs , were by my self , at their first comming forth , delivered to several Members of that Session , which notwithstanding , they were still sold in the Hall ; all the Interest I had being too little to get them suppressed . But now return we to our Author , who complains , that The Presbyterians are loaded with many Calumnies ; as , that they are against the Interest of Civil Magistracy , especially of Monarchy ; That they are giddy , factious , schismatical , domineering , and what not ? But no such matter he assures us ; for , They yield unto the Supreme Magistrate a Supreme political Power in all Spiritual Matters ; but they do not yield that he is the Fountain of spiritual power , there being a spiritual Power belonging to the Church , if there were no Christian Magistrate in the world . They assert onely a spiritual power over the Conscience , as intrinsecally belonging to the Church ; and acknowledge , that no Decree nor Canon of the Church , can be a binding Law to the Subjects of any Kingdom under temporal penalties , till it be ratified by the Legislative power of that Kingdom . And they do not claim for the Convocation , or any other Ecclesiastical Convention , an Independency on Parliaments ; if they did , surely the Parliament of England would resent such a Claim . Neither are they Antimonarchical . Did the English or Scotish Presbyters ever go about to dissolve Monarchy , and to erect some other kind of Government ? In no wise : for in the Solemn League and Covenant , they bound themselves to endeavour the preservation of the King's Person and Authority , and declared they had no intent to diminish his Majesty's just Power and Greatness . Observation How far their Principles comport with the Interest of Civil Magistracy or Monarchy , shall have a place by it self : yet I might very well content my self with what arises from his own words , as they lie here before us ; to Prove what he Denies ; for in the same Breath he both Starts the Question and Resolves it . Did not the English and Scotch Presbyters go about to dissolve Monarchy ? What is the Analysis of Monarchy , but a Government by a Single Person ? ( and , as I take it , the Injur'd Father of our present Soveraign was That Person , to whom of Right the Regal Dignity belonged . ) Did not these Presbyters he talks of , place the Supreme Power in the Two Houses , and under Their Commission , seize the King's Towns , and Forts ; Levy Arms ; Tax the People ; Plunder , and Kill their Fellow-Subjects ; Impose Oathes ; Share His Majesty's Revenues ; Persue , and Jewishly sell and betray His Sacred Person ? If to do all this , not onely Without , but expresly Against the King's Commission , be not to go about to dissolve Monarchy , I know not what is . Or if the Gentleman had rather dispute the Royal Prerogative , than confess his own Mistake in this Particular , we 'l look a little that way too : but I doubt the Prospect will be none of the pleasantest . Upon the Trial of Cook and Peters , This was Delivered for Law. See the Narrative , Page 182 and 183. It is the Law of this Nation , That no One House , nor Both Houses of Parliament , have any Coercive power over the King : — That the Imprisoning of the King is Treason . And a little further , Thus , The King of England is one of those Princes who hath an Imperial Crown : What 's That ? It is not to do what he will ; No , but it is , that he shall not be punished in his own Person , if he doth That which is in it selfe Unlawful . This is a short and clear decision of the Case : nor will it serve the good man's turn to argue their Integrity , from what they were bound to by their Covenant and Declarations . It matters not what they Profess'd , but what they Did. If this be all they have to say ; some Heads are now upon the City-Gates that said as much . What was the Covenant , but a Popular Sacrament of Religious Disobedience , a Mark of Discrimination , who were against the King , and who were for him ? And this the Marquis of Montross soon found , who being at first unwarily engaged in it , with the Kirk-party , quickly perceived his error , and retired ; Living and dying the Honor of his Nation , and of the Royal Cause . Mark this , * His Loyalty was charged upon him at his Death , for Breach of Covenant . The Presbyterian Casuists would fain perswade the Nation , to think themselves obliged by that Engagement . Who Vnderstands it first ? ( And certainly we cannot be bound to do we know not what ) Next , 't is impossible either to Keep , or Break it : 't is made up of so many Contradictions . But once for All ; there is a Nullity in the Institution . No man can oblige himself in things wherein he is subject , without leave from his Superior . And again ; The Oath of One who is under the power of Another , without the others consent , is neither Lawful nor Obligatory . Thus the Reverend , and Learned Bishop Sanderson . Now to my Presbyterian again . After the violent change of Government , they came slowest , and entred latest into those new Engagements imposed by the Vsurped Powers , and some utterly refused , even to the forfeiture of their preferments , and the hazzard of their livelyhoods , when the Nation in general submitted to the yoke ; and many of those who thus object against them , did in temporizing run with the foremost . The truth is , the generality of Conscientious Presbyterians never ran with the current of those times . Some more eminent among them , Ministers and others , hazzarded their lives , and others lost their lives , in combining to bring our Soveraign that now is to the rightful possession of this his Kingdom . And those in Scotland adventured no more then all to uphold him ; and when he lost the Day , they lost their Liberty ; and when he fell , it was said by the Adversary , Presbytery was fallen . Where I must either leave the Story foul on the Kings side , or prove it so on the Other , my choice is pardonable : but otherwise I shall be very tender of engaging the Honest Presbyterians , with the Guilty . That many of them lov'd His Majesty , and suffer'd for him , I will not question ; and that they all submitted most unwillingly , to that Violent Change here mention'd , I do as little doubt . But I must needs say , the Action had been Nobler , and the Loyalty much Clearer , had they consulted the Kings Security , before they lost their own . This does not yet oblige me to the same Charity for the Scotish Party ; who first , during a Treaty with His Majesty , basely and brutishly murthered Montrose , and after that , Treated the King himself , liker a Prisoner , than a Prince . He urges , that [ the Presbyterians first divided , and then dissipated the Sectarian Party , and so made way for his Majesties return in Peace . ] Lambert , and his Nine Worthies did as much . I do believe him too , [ that the sense of the Covenant quickned many men's Consciences in their allegiance to the King. ] So did the Cock-crowing mind St. Peter of the denial of his Master . But he went out , and wept bitterly ; So does not every body . Alas , alas , the Saints have no faults ; what should they weep for ? It may be peradventure said , the Presbyterians would enervate Monarchy ; but surely ( says our Discourser ) I cannot find the rise of this Objection , unless from hence , that they were not willing to come under any yoke , but that of the Law of the Realm , or to pay Arbitrary Taxes , levied without consent of Parliament . Observation From hence these two Deductions ; First , That the Subjects free from that which binds the King , namely , the Yoke of Law. Suppose He breaks that Law , by what Law can we question him ? At best , 't is but to punish One Transgression by Another . The Second Hint is Dis-ingenuous : as if Arbitrary Taxes had been the subject of the Difference . All the world knows , before a blow was strook , the King had stript himself to his Honour , and his Conscience , to gratifie his People . But 't was the Government they aim'd at , and that they fought for . Here is yet another gentle slip : What are Taxes to Presbytery ? But this is a Devil that will hardly be kept within his Circle . Just so in their Practices do they reduce all Civil Actions , under the Cognizance of their Courts of Conscience , as he brings here by head and shoulders , Arbitrary Taxes to Matter of Religion . I confess ( says he ) there are none that more reverence their Liberties , and value the native-happiness of the free-born Subjects of England . And verily their true knowledge and sense of the nature of Christian Religion , makes a due freedom exceeding precious : For this Religion is not variable , according to the will of man , but grounded upon an unchangeable and eternal truth , and doth indispensably bind every soul , high and low , to one divine Law and Rule , perpetual and unalterable . And therefore doth strongly plead the expedience of a due civil Liberty on the behalf of its Professors ; yet such a liberty as will not enfeeble Monarchy , nor the Legal power of the Kings of England . Observation Truly I think I have not seen words so well put together , that signifie so little . Because Religion is not variable , but grounded upon an unchangeable and eternal Truth , &c. — Therefore the Professors of it must have a due civil Liberty , &c. Is not a Due Liberty , Due to all people ? Again , What is civil Liberty to matter of salvation ? And yet again . Why should the Presbyterians challenge that liberty to themselves , which they refuse to others , upon the very same Plea : and not rather submit their Discipline to the Law , then stoop the Law to their Discipline ? There is a Liberty which is a cloak for Maliciousness : and I am afraid , Theirs and That are much a-kinn . One thing is very notable ; they never state what they would have , their terms are general , and indefinite , hard to be understood , because they are resolv'd not to be satisfi'd . A Due Freedom , a Due Civil Liberty , The Legal Power ; — What means all this , but any thing they shall be pleased to make of it ? A King ruling a free People , hath a Power much more noble and more free , than he that ruleth over perfect Vassals , that have no Propriety . The power is more noble , because it hath a more noble subject of Government ; it is more honorable to rule Men than Beasts , and Freemen than slaves . Likewise the power is more free : For whatsoever Prince hath not his power limited by his people's legal freedom , he will be bound up some other way , either by the potency of subordinate Princes and great Lords within the Realm , or by a veterane Army , as the Turkish Emperor by his Janizaries , and the Roman Caesars by the Pretorian Bands and the Legions . Vpon which account , to be a powerful Monarch over a free people , is the freedome and glory of our Soveraign Lord , above all the Potentates on earth . Observation A King ruling a free people , is a kind of Presbyterianism , and sounds better in the mouth of a Lawyer , than of a Divine . The Correlate to Rule , is Subjection : nor will their Title to a Propriety , yet justifie the common usage of the Term. 'T is of a dangerous Intimation , and seems to give the people more than comes to their share . ( I speak with reverence to the benignity of our English Laws , and the Indubitable right which every Subject hath to the Benefits thereof . ) That it is more honorable to Rule Free-men than Slaves , is but a Complement For I can make those Slaves , Free , when I please , whereas the other way of my power 's confin'd ; that is , in Equity , a Prince is bound to observe the Law , as his own Act : and if he fails , the people may compel him to it , if they can shew a Law for 't . To end this point ; What Prince soever shall suffer every bubling brain to controvert the bounds of King and Subject ; the Royal Authority , and the Peoples Freedom ; that Prince , I say , runs a great hazzard of his Soveraignty . The very moving of the Question , is to prophane the Sacredness of Majesty ; and by degrees begets irreverend and sawcy habits in the people . But Rebellion ( he tells us ) and Disobedience , is the loud out-cry of some against this Party . And this were a crying sin indeed . But let not sober minds be hurried into prejudice by such exclamations and out-cries . It were to be wished , for common peace and amity , that the late publick Discords were eternally forgotten . But seeing some in these times of expected Reconciliation , will not cease to implead and condemn the honest minded , and render them odious to the higher Powers , a necessity is laid upon us to speak something Apologetical , at least to mitigate the business , and remove prejudice . Observation Sure this loud out-cry of Rebellion aad Disobedience , comes from within himself ; for truly I have a little watch'd the Press , and since his Majesty's Return , ( nay , a good while before ) upon my conscience I have not met with one syllable of bitterness against that Party , but Defensive : Yet I dare undertake to produce forty Presbyterian Pamplets , and Discourses , of fresh date , exceeding foul against the King , and his Adherents . It really makes me blush and tremble , to consider how great a mercy they abuse , how sad a vengeance they provoke . Had but these people the least spark of natural affection and remorse , the venerable ruines of a glorious Chuch and State would work upon them ; Or now and then a thought how matters stand betwixt God and their Souls : But their great care of others make them neglect themselves , and become true Anathemaes for a pretended publick good . However they do well to cry Whore first ; and call that a Necessitated Apology , which seems to me a palpable and causeless Slander . We have heard much and often of the Presbyterians Loyalty and Religion ; we 'l look a little now into their Law , which very fairly gives us to understand , that the Vnbishopping of Timothy and Titus , will not do their trick . They are at work already upon the two main props of Royalty ; the King 's Negative Voice , and the Power of the Sword. A blessed Age the while , when the Pulpit shall pretend to dispose of the Crown ; Kerve out the Government ; and every scribling Priest vent his seditious and crude Politiques to the People . But now it works . The Presbyterian Party in England never engaged under a less Authority than that of both Houses of Parliament . I have read , that the Parliament of England hath several capacities , and among the rest , these two ; First , that it represents the People as Subjects , and so it can do nothing but manifest their grievances , and petition for relief . Secondly , That by the constitution it hath part in the Soveraignty , and so it hath part in the Legislative power , and in the final Judgment . Now when as a part of the Legislative Power resides in the Two Houses , as also a Power to redress grievances , and to call into question all Ministers of State and Justice , and all Subjects of whatsoever degree in case of Delinquency , it might be thought , that a part of the Supreme Power doth reside in them , though they have not the honorary Title . Observation Me-thinks we should do well to leave calling the Two Houses , the Parliament of England , having already paid so dear for that mistake . Concerning the Power of the Parliament of England . 'T is beyond doubt , onely inferiour to the Fountain of all Power , even God Himself . But then an Agreement is imply'd ; neither King , Lords , nor Commons , nor any Two of them , can pretend to a Parliamentary Authority , without the Third . This is not to suppose Co-ordination neither . The Two Houses are still Subjects : Their Office being onely Consultive , or Preparatory ▪ The Character of Power rests in the final Sanction , and that 's the King's : So that effectually , the passing of a Bill , is but the granting of a Request . So much for Parliaments , in propriety of speaking . Now to the Power of the Two Houses , by my Antagonist mis-call'd , The Parliament of England , upon which Bottom stands the Presbyterian Fabrick . He tell us , They Act in Two Capacities . As Subjects , or Petitioners , first : and Then , as Sharers of the Soveraignty : As if he said , They are sent to Ask what they List , and Take what they Please . The Petitioning Capacity is not for the Presbyterians purpose ; wherefore he waves That , and sticks to the Other . What their Power is , will best appear from the King 's Writ of Summons , which both Commands and Limits them , Pro QUIBUSDAM arduis , & urgentibus negotiis , &c. — ORDINAVIMUS , &c. — He states it otherwise , and places a part of the Legislative Power in the Two Houses , which is not Doctor-like . For the Legislative Power is totally the King 's . They do but make the Bill , He makes the Law ; 'T is the Stamp , not the Matter , makes it current . Nor do I comprehend what he can mean by Part of the Legislative Power : to my thinking , he might as well have said , Part of an Indivisible Point . This will come to a pretty Fraction , Two Thirds of a Parliament , shall make Two Thirds of a Law. Is it not enough that the King can do nothing without the Two Houses , unless they may do every thing without the King ? Grant this , and of all people living we are the greatest Slaves , as of all Constitutions ours is the most Ridiculous . Touching the power of the two Houses , to Redress Grievances , and Question all Ministers of State and Justice , ] The Power they have is either from Prescription or Commission . To the Former , I think , Few will pretend ; and to the Latter , None . Never was the House of Commons , at any hand reputed a Court of Justice . They cannot give an Oath , impose a Fine : not indeed exercise any Empire but over their own Members . 'T is true , the Lords House hath in some Cases a Right of Judicature ; but Claiming by Prescription , they are likewise Limited by Custom . Further , Both Houses are no Court of Judicature , and ( with due Reverence to his Majesty ) the King himself in Parliament , joyn'd with the Three Estates , claim not a right of Judication , but very rarely , and with great Tenderness . It is the proper business of a Parliament to Make Laws , Alter , or Repeal them , not to Interpret them , unless in matters of very great Importance . That 's left to the Judges ; and to determine of their Validity . For Acts of Parliament , either Repugnant in themselves , or of impossible Supposition , or against Common Right , are deem'd not Binding . The Common , and most specious shift of all the rest , is , that the Government of this Nation is in King , Lords , and Commons . This must be swallowed with great wariness , or 't will choak half the Nation . By the KING , Architectonicè ; and by the other TWO , Organicè , ( as Walker distinguishes it ) the King , as the Architect ; and the Two Houses , as his Instruments . If there were neither Practice , Law , nor Interest in the Case , me-thinks the very odds of Honor in the Deputation , should be Enough to carry it . The King is God's Representative , They are but the Peoples . Say I should now admit them all they challenge , ( as Delegated by the People ) so tickle is the point yet , that if any one single Person of the number , should be illegally debarr'd the Freedom of his Vote ; that nicety avoids , and nulls the whole Proceeding . I can hardly think any thing clearer , than the error of placing part of the Supreme Power in the two Houses . It implies a Contradiction : A part of a Thing ( with leave ) Impartible . ( But Drowning men will catch at Straws ) However , I perceive , that his Majesty's best Friends , and the Church's ( as they style themselves ) are resolved to serve both King and Bishops alike . That is ; just as the Bishop is to rule in Consociation with his Presbyters , so shall his Majesty with his Fellow-Princes , the Presbyterian Members . It cannot but exceedingly dispose the King , to grant these people all DUE LIBERTY , that will give him so much . Crowns are but Troublesome ; and Government sits heavy upon the shoulders of a Single Person ; They 'l ease him of that Care and Weight : and for the honor of their Prince , and their Country's good , divide the Glorious load among themselves . This being past , ( which heaven avert ) We may ( says the late King ) be waited on bare-headed , we may have our Hand kiss'd , the style of Majesty continued to us , and the King's Authority , declared by both Houses of Parliament , may be still the style of your Commands ; we may have Swords and Maces carried before us , and please our Self with Sight of a Crown and Scepter . ] — But soft , the Man relents , and tells us , ( though the Law says , the King can do no wrong ) [ That This part of the Supreme power , is indeed capable of doing wrong , yet how it might be Guilty of Rebellion , is more difficult to conceive . ] Observation Put case the two Houses should take up Arms against the King , because he will not Banish the one half of his Friends , and hang up the rest : would not that be Rebellion ? I could start twenty Suppo●itions more ; but I 'll stop here , and the rather , because our Author professes , that [ in this high and tender point , it belongs not to him to Determine . ] Yet he goes on , and certainly believes , that the world is divided into Fools and Presbyterians : he would not otherwise have thrust upon us so gross a Juggle , as that which I am now about to examine . Touching the much debated point of resisting the higher Powers , without passing any judgment in the great Case of England , I shall onely make rehearsal of the words of Grotius , a man of Renown , and known to be neither Anti-monarchical , nor Anti-prelatical , which are found in his Book , De jure Belli & Pacis , by himself dedicated to the French King. ( Si Rex partem habeat summi Imperii , partem alteram populus aut Senatus , Regi in partem non suam involanti , vis justa opponi poterit , quia eatenus Imperium non habet . Quod locum habere censeo , etiamfi dictum sit , belli potestatem penes Regem fore . Id enim de bello externo intelligendum est , cum alioqui quisquis Imperii summi partem habeat , non possit non jus habere eam partem tuendi . ) lib. 1. c. 4. s. 13. Observation Here we find Grotius cited , to justifie , that the Lords and Commons may make war against the King , to defend their Title to the Supreme Power . ( Pythagoras his opinion concerning Wild-foul , had been as much to the purpose ) For the English Reader 's sake I 'l turn it ; and in this point desire a more than ordinary attention . Where the Supremacy is in the King , in some Cases ; in Others , in the People , or Senate . That King invading the others Right , may be lawfully resisted ; for his power reaches not so far . And this I think will stand good , although I have already placed the right of making War , in the King ; for that must be understood of a forreign War : Since whosoever hath a part of the Supreme Power , hath consequently a right of maintaining such part as he hath . ] There is one line yet remaining , which our Author hath very prudently kept for a Reserve , till the Presbyterians shall have gotten the better of the King. Quod ubi fit , potest Rex etiam suam Imperii partem belli jure amittere ; That is , Where thus it happens , the King's encroachment upon the Peoples Right , may fairly amount to a forfeiture of his own . Is it not pity that people of these milde , and complying Principles , should be charg'd with Disobedience ? If this be the case of England , the Question is no longer , the Presbyterians Liberty , but the King's Title to his Crown . That Chapter of Grotius , whence he takes his Quotation , treats De Bello subitorum , in Superiores ; Where , and where not , Subjects may take up Arms against their Superiors . This learned man , among other Cases , tells us , in this they may , and the Reason is evident ; : For where the Soveraignty is thus dispos'd ; half to the King , half to the People , that Prince is but a Subject to some purposes , a King to others . So that in any point of Soveraignty , formally vested in the People ; He is not their Superior , but they his . How finely he hath match'd the Case of England , where Kings have no Restraint , but what they put upon themselves , for the Laws are their proper Acts ! But mark the process of his Reasonings : and how ( in his own phrase ) he feels his way step by step . The Presbyterians were ever in the right ; he says . Why , if he would be quiet , who says the contrary ? But then the King was in the wrong . To bring the Case up to Grotius his determination : we must admit First , that by the constitution of England , the Soveraignty is shared betwixt the King and the two Houses : and Next , that the late King did actually invade the Popular Prerogative : from whence arises the lawfulness of resistance ; and after that , Potest Rex etiam suam Imperii partem Belli jure amittere . They have at last the same right to the Crown , they had at first to the Quarrel . He that peruses the first eight Sections of the fore-mentioned Chapter , will find Grotius no favourer of his Opinions that quotes him . Be the Prince what he will , he tells us , Summum Imperium tenentibus resisti jure non posse . Bodin yet more expresly , that England and Scotland are absolute Monarchies : That the Supreme Power is onely in the King ; ( Iura Majestatis , ac Imper●i summam , in unius Prinoipis Arbitria versari . Further , In Senatu nullum est Imperium ; Nor onely so , but whoever urges the contrary , meditates a Commotion , Isti qui Imperium Senatui tribuunt , Reipublicae interitum , ac status eversionem moliuntur . As to the point of Loyalty now in question , the subversion of the Fundamental Government of this Kingdom could not be effected , till those Members of Parliament that were Presbyterian , were many of them imprisoned , others forcibly secluded by the violence of the Army , and the rest thereupon withdrew from the House of Commons . Observation Then it seems till that violence by the Army , upon the Presbyterians , there was none acted by the Presbyterians upon the King. To seize his Towns and Magazines ; Hunt , and Assault his Royal Person ; Part his Revenues ; Hang up his Friends : All this is Justifi'd , in Case his Majesty refuses to be rul'd by his Two Houses . Alas , the Fundamental Government was safe , ( I warrant ye ) so long as the Rights of Soveraignty were exercis'd , first by the Assembly in Scotland , and then by a pack'd Party , in a close Committee : And the Presbyterians never the less honest men for selling the King first ; Then voting him a Prisoner ; and after that , for Pinching him even upon the very Point of Presbytery . Surely they are much to blame that charge these Innocents with disloyalty . If the Presbyterian Members had not been Forced , ( they say ) all had been well . Truly it may be so ; yet if I mistake not , there was a time when the Episcopal Members were Forced too ; and had that Violence been spared , it had never come to This. But I suppose , the City-Tumults against BISHOPS : the Outcries of the Rabble at White-hall : the Multitudes that Baul'd for Reformation : Posting up such and such for Straffordians , as honestly opposed the Torrent of the People . This in the VVell-affected , passes for Christian Liberty . But our Author follows his Opinion with a Proof . For they ( says he , meaning the Presbyterians ) had voted the King's Concessions a Ground sufficient for the Houses to proceed to settle the Nation , and were willing to cast , whatever they Contended for , upon a Legal Security . Observation Waving their Former Vote of Non-Addresses , and that foul Declaration of their Reasons for it : We will in Charity believe , they were over-aw'd , and that it was extorted by the Army . But what excuse for the Matter of the Propositions ? That they were actuated by a Presbyterian Spirit , appears in This , that they demanded a Settlement of a Presbyterian Government . It remains now onely from Hence , to gather the Fair Equivalence , of this Gentleman's Doctrine , and to discover what 't is the Presbyterian Faction calls a Legal Security . They hold , That if the King of England will not comply with the Two Houses , the People may Chase , Sequester , and Imprison Him : And when they have him in Distress , they may without Disloyalty press Him to these , or the like Conditions for His Liberty . 1. By a Publick Act to justifie that Violence , and condemn himself . 2 ly . To Renounce and Abolish Episcopacy , although bound by Oath and Judgment to defend it . 3 ly . To Transfer the Right of Levying Men and Monies , to the Two Houses ; by them to be raised and disposed of at pleasure , without rendring any Accompt to his Majesty . 4 ly . To deliver up the Lives , Liberties , and Fortunes of all that served him , to the Mercy of that Party . 5 ly . To grant , that all Offices of Trust may be disposed of by the Appointment of Both Houses . This is a short , and modest Accompt of Presbyterian Loyalty , the Due Liberty they contend for : which being setled upon a Legal Security , with such further Concessions , as their Modesty shall vouchsafe to require , puts an end to the Dispute . His late Majesty observes ( upon Uxbridge - Treaty ) That it was a grand Maxim with them , always to ask something , which in Reason and Honor must be denyed , that they might have some colour to refuse all that was in other things granted . ] And so we find it . But what 's the Reason of this peevishness ? Is there any thing in the Nature of Prelacy that frames the mind to Obedience and Loyalty ? Or is there any thing in Presbytery , that inclines to Rebellion and Disobedience ? Observation Truly I think there is . Prelacy holds a better proportion in the Scale of Order , as a more regular Subordination of Duties and Relations . Nature and Providence do not move by Leaps , but by Insensible and Soft Degrees , which give Stability and Beauty to the Universe . Is not the World compos'd of Disagreements , Hot and Cold , Heavy and Light ? — And yet we see those Oppositions are by the means of middle , and Conciliating mixtures wrought into a Compliance ? 'T is the same case in Subject and Superior : Higher and Lower , betwixt Top and Bottom , are but as several Links of one providential Chain , where every Individual , by vertue of this mutual Dependency , Contributes to the Peace and Benefit of the Whole . Some are below me ; and This sweetens the Thought that I am below Others : By which Libration are prevented those Distempers which arise either from the Affectation of more Power , or the Shame of having none at all . As these Degrees of Mean and Noble , are beyond doubt of Absolute Necessity to Political Concord ; so possibly the Closer the Remove , the better yet , as to the point of Social expedience ; provided , that the Distances be such as to avoid Confusion , and preserve Distinct Offices , and Powers from enterfering . Nor is this Gradual method onely suited to Humane Interest , as being most accommodate to publick Quiet , and to defend the Sacredness of Majesty from popular Distempers : But 't is the very Rule which God himself Imposes upon the whole Creation : Making of the same Lump , one Vessel to Honor , and another to Dishonor . Subjecting by the Law of his own Will , This to That : That to what 's next above it : Both to a Further Power , all to Himself . And here we rest : as at the Fountain of Authority . From God , Kings Reign ; They appoint their Substitutes , and so on to inferior Delegations ; All Powers derive from a Divine Original . This Orderly Gradation , which we find in Prelacy , must needs beget a Reverence to Authority ; the Hierarchy it self depending upon a Principle of Obedience ; whereas our Utopian Presbytery advances it self upon a Level of Confusion . It is a kind of Negative Faction , united to dissolve a laudable and setled frame of Government , that they may afterward set up they know not what . We may have learn'd thus much from late and sad experience . Let him that would know more of it , read the Survey of pretended Holy Discipline . I think it would be hard to shew one eminent Presbyterian , that stickles not for an Aristocracy in the State , as well as in the Church : and he that said , No Bishop , No King , gave a shrewd judgment ; not as implying a Princes absolute dependance upon Bishops , but in effect the King's Authority is wounded through the Church ; the Reformation of what is amiss , belonging to the Ruler , not to the People . I do not yet condemn all Presbyters , nor justifie all Prelates . We are told , That in antient times , and for a series of many Ages , the Kings of England have had tedious conflicts with Prelates , in their Dominions . ] 'T is Right , and the same cause is now espoused by our more than ordinary Papal Presbyterians ; to wit , Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction over the Civil Power . But we are further Question'd . If Presbytery and Rebellion be connatural , how comes it to pass , that those States or Kingdoms where it hath been established or tollerated , have for any time been free from broils and commotions . Observation It is as true , that those places have been quietest , where Presbytery hath gain'd footing , as 't is , that Presbyterians have never disclaimed or abandoned their lawful Prince : that they have never ceased to solicite , and supplicate his Regards and Favours , even when their power hath been at the highest , and his sunk lowest . This is something which in good manners wants a name . How far the Presbyterians have Abandon'd their Prince , I shall not press , but rather refer the Reader to examine how far , and in what manner they have Solicited him . ( Cujus contrarium . ) His late Majesty , after forty messages for Peace , and a Personal Treaty , finding himself most barbarously laid aside ; in a Declaration from Carisbrook Castle , Dated Janu. 18. 1647. Expostulates the matter in these Termes . Now would I know , what it is that is desired : Is it Peace ? I have shewed the way ( being both willing and desirous to perform my part in it ) which is , a just Compliance with all chief Interests . Is it Plenty and Happiness ? They are the inseparable effects of Peace . Is it Security ? I , who wish that all men would forgive and forget like Me , have offered the Militia for My time . Is it Liberty of Conscience ? He who wants it , is most ready to give it . Is it the right Administration of Justice ? Officers of trust are committed to the Choice of My two Houses of Parliament . Is it frequent Parliaments ? I have legally , fully concurr'd therewith . Is it the Arriers of the Army ? Upon settlement , they will certainly be paid , with much ease ; but before , there will be found much difficulty , if not impossibility in it . Thus all the world cannot but see My real , and unwearied endeavours for Peace , the which ( by the grace of God ) I shall neither repent me of , nor ever be slackned in : Notwithstanding My past , present , or future sufferings . But , If I may not be heard , let every one judge , who it is that obstructs , the Good I would do , or might do . Where the right lies , a Presbyterian may better Determine , than a Royallist Question . — Magno se judice quisque tuetur . Here 's the Testimony of a Pedant , in Ballance against the Authority of a Prince . He tells us by and by , that Prophaneness , Intemperance , Revellings , Out-rages , and filthy lewdness were not at any time in the memory of the present age , held under more . Restraint , than in the late distracted times , by means of a Practical Ministery . Observation These Generals spell nothing , and to name Particulars were not so candid ; I could else make up Scot and Peters , at least a score , even out of the select Tribe of the Reformers , ( and these I think are not as yet Canoniz'd for Saints . ) 'T is no prophaneness ( is it ? ) to play the Hocus Pocus in a Pulpit , with Rings and Bodkins ; to talk Treason by Inspiration ; and entitle the holy Ghost to Murther and Rebellion . To appoint Mock-Fasts , and thank God for Victories he never gave them . To swear for , and against the King , in the same breath . To convert Churches into Stables , and for fear of Superstition to commit Sacrilege . Nor is it Out-rage sure , or Intemperance to seize the Patrimony of the Church , the King's Revenues ; pillage and kill their fellow-Subjects . To set up Ordinances against setled Laws , and subject the Ten Commandements to the superior Vote of a Committee . To justifie Tumults against Authority , and suffer the most damnable Heresies to scape without reproof . But what if there were Disorders ; by whom were they caused ? It is most unreasonable to object , that the late wild postures , extravagancies , and incongruities in Government , were the works of Presbytery , or Presbyterians . The Nation had never proof of Presbytery , for it was never setled , but rather decry'd , and expos'd to prejudice by those that were in sway , and that in the more early times of the late Wars . Observation I must confess indeed , that Presbytery was never setled , nor ever likely to be , so much did the whole Nation stomach it ; But yet how this agrees with his former Reasoning , pag. 29. I do not understand . There he pretends , that by * long practise mens minds are fix'd in this opinion : and that the Party is numerous . Here he contents himself to acknowledge , that the Presbyterians lost their power early , and that they never recovered it since . This will not serve his turn , to acquit the Faction ( so denominated ) of our late Miseries . Our Soveraign ( of blessed memory ) brings the contest down , to his surprisal at Holmby , and the Distractions in the two Houses , the Army , and the City , ensuing upon it . These ( says that excellent Prince ) are but the struglings of those Twins , which lately one Womb enclosed , the Younger striving to prevail against the Elder . * What the Presbyterians have hunted after , the Independents now seek to catch for themselves . ] In fine ; One finish'd what the other began ; for the King died at last , but of those wounds which he at first received in his Authority . His Majesty , upon his leaving Oxford , and going to the Scots , clears this yet further : where he calls it , Adventuring upon their Loyalty , who first began his troubles . The truth of this matter ( says he ) is cleared by a passage of our late Soveraign , in a Let-to his Majesty that now is . [ All the lesser Factions were at first officious Servants to Presbytery their great Master , till time and Military success discovering to each other their particular advantages , invited them to part stakes , and leaving the joynt stock of uniform Religion , pretended each to drive for their party the trade of profits and preferments , to the breaking and undoing not onely of the Church and State , but of Presbytery it self . — ( It follows ) which seem'd and hop'd at first to have engross'd all . Observation The last line is as true as any of the rest ; but all truths are not to be spoken . Indeed this Slip is somewhat with the grossest . Not to trouble my self with their formal Fopperies , of Deacons , Elders , and their Parish-meetings ; Those are but popular amusements : We 'll pass to what 's more pertinent , and see how he acquits his friends of joyning with the Independents . The truth is , Sectarianism grew up in a Mystery of Iniquity and State-policy , and it was not well discerned , till it became almost triumphant by Military successes . Observation 'T is a strange thing the Presbyterians should not see what they themselves contrived ; what all others took notice of ; and what the late King offered to prove , [ In his Declaration of August the 12th 1642. ] The Insolence of Sectaries being not onely wink'd at , but publickly avow'd ; and the Law thwarted to protect them . See what one says ( no stranger to their practises ) to prove , and evidence the Combination . The Leading-men , or Grandees , first divided themselves into two Factions or Juncto's , Presbyterians and Independents : seeming to look onely at the Church , but they involv'd the Interests of the Common-wealth . — These having seemingly divided themselves , and having really divided the Houses , and captivated their respective Parties judgments . — Teaching them by an implicite Faith , Jurare in verba Magistri , to pin their opinions upon their sleeves : They begin to advance their projects of monopolizing the profits , preferments , and power of the Kingdom in themselves . To which purpose , though the Leaders of each party seem to maintain a hot opposition , yet when any profit or preferment is to be reach'd at , it is observ'd , that a powerful Independent especially , moves for a leading Presbyterian , or a leading Presbyterian for an Independent : And seldom doth one oppose or speak against another , in such Cases , unless somewhat of particular Spleene or Competition come between : which causeth them to break the Common-rule . By this means , the Grandees of each Faction , seldom miss their mark , since an Independent moving for a Presbyterian , his Reputation carries the business clear with the Independent party : and the Presbyterians will not oppose a Leading man of their own side . I find we are not like to Agree , for these people cannot see their own Faults , nor we their Virtues . I would take a good Journey to meet any man stiff in that way , that would but Confess he was ever in any error . Of all the prejudices and scandals taken against this way , there is none greater than this , that it is represented as tyrannical and domineering , and that those who live under it , must ( like Issachar ) crouch under the burdens . We do indeed account the Presbyterian Discipline very Tyrannical , and by and by we 'l give our reasons for it . Not because this Discipline censures Scandalous Disorders ] ( as he insinuates ) but for that it subjects all Civil matters to a Consistorian cognisance , and rapt by an Impulse of Passion , calls many things Scandalous , which measured by the rule of Piety and Reason , are found Praise-worthy , and of laudable Example . The usage of the Common-prayer book is to Them , Scandalous , though setled by the Law : but to eject a Minister for reading it , though both without Law , and against it , That , They esteem no scandal ; We , the contrary . I Have now brought the Gentleman to his first Stage , where I might very fairly leave him , for having already done my business ; what I do more , is but for Company . So far as I can judge , I have not scap'd one syllable material to his purpose : nor have I either broken his Periods , or unlink'd his Reasonings , to puzzle , or avoid his meaning . How fairly I have dealt with what I have expos'd : whether in matter of Fact , Deduction , or good Manners , ( the Subject of the Difference duely weighed ) That I submit to the Reader , and where the reason lies betwixt us . I have indeed omitted a great part of the Debate , as not at all related to my Design , nor ( to speak freely ) much to the point in Question . His frequent and Rhetorical Raptures , extolling to the Heavens , the Wisdom and Sanctity of the Presbyterians ; ( but above all , the Legions of the Saints ) what does this florid vanity ●ignifie more than the putting of his own Name to a fair Picture , when yet , for ought he proves , and for ought we discern , there 's not one line betwixt them of Agreement . The contrary course he takes with the Prelatick party . They ( forsooth ) are Not so and so : and from his Generals , There he is pleased to enter into prohibited particulars , taxing in special manner the excesses of some of our late Prelates : but without any instances of good in the Other Party , which does but spitefully and weakly imply , that Bishops have more Faults , than Presbyterians have Virtues . It will not be now expected , that we that differ in the Premises , should agree in the Conclusion . But for that we 'll take our Fortunes . Vpen the whole matter aforegoing , we firmly build this Position : That the Presbyterian Party ought not in Justice or Reason of State , to be rejected and depressed , but ought to be protected and encouraged . ( This is but one Doctor 's opinion ; we think otherwise . ) Nevertheless ( says he ) there being a seeming complication in this business , and an other ample Party appearing in competition , a difficulty remains , and the matter falls into a further deliberation . And thereupon we are fallen upon the second Main Enquiry . II. Quest. Whether the Presbyterian Party may be protected and encouraged , and the Episcopal not deserted nor disobliged . Observation 'T is a particular Grace , that the Bishops Party may yet be admitted into the Competition , and that the man of the short Robe will vouchsafe to enquire into the Consistence of Episcopacy and Presbytery : yet it was boldly ventur'd to Determine what Ought to be done before he had examin'd , whether the Thing was Fesible or no. I shall not spend my Time to Controvert Idea's , and wrangle about Governments in the Air : we are for Plain and Practicable Contrivements , such as Authority , Good Order , and Long Experience have recommended to us . I suppose the agreeing of Both Parties in such Middle terms as he proposes , a thing not utterly Impossible . Many things may be fair enough in Notion , yet of exceeding hazzard to be put in Practice ; especially 't is dangerous to try Tricks with Politick Constitutions . Great alterations are scarce safe , even where they are Lawful , and wrought with good Intention : Much less are those so , which are promoted by a Disorderly , and Popular Earnestness , and with seditious meaning . For this I dare lay down as a Position : Never did any Private Party band against a Publick Settlement , with an intent to mend it . But what have we to do with the Imaginary Coalition of the two Church-Parties ; when the Kirk-Discipline affronts the Civil Sanction , and Actually invades the Kings Authority ? Let them first bring their Principles to their Duties , Treating like Subjects , and Submitting as Christians . Can any man believe those People Friends to the Church , that are Enemies to the State ▪ or that the God of Order can be pleased with the Promoters of Confusion ? Were there no other reason to deny the thing they ask , than their bare manner of Asking ; it ought not to be Granted . What signifies their talk of Number , Power , Resolution , but a false Muster of the Faction , to make a party with the Rabble ? when yet , God knows , they 're Inconsiderable : let every man but over-look his Neighbour , and Count , he 'l find the Disproportion . Undoubtedly the most Insufferable of all their Arguments is that of Danger ; there 's but one step between that Word and Violence . First , it implies a Seditious Complication . They move for such as they believe will Tumult : if not , where lies the Hazzard ? Besides , those Subjects that dare tell their Prince , 't is dangerous to deny their Askings , do by that insolence render his Concessions much more hazzardous . Persons of that audacious temper , will hardly make a sober use of an extorted Bounty . So far as Presbyterian , and Episcopal , purely refer to the Church , I shall not much concern my self in Our Resolvers Second main Enquiry : ( Equal to all the World is the Incomparable Hooker , upon that Subject ) but where these terms are in a greater Latitude , applyed to Civil matters , I shall be bold to pass some further Observations . The Dissenting side oppose not all Liturgy , but desire that the present onm may be Changd , or reformed . Observation That 's but a modest Motion . But now suppose his Majesty , the Law , and Forty for One of the Nation , should desire the Continuance of it as it is : what Equity have the Dissenters to the Change ; or what would be the Benefit if Granted ? Not the Tenth part even of the Presbyterians , would be contented with it . Some of them are against all set-Forms of Common-prayer whatever ; Others ( more moderate forsooth ) do not oppose a prescript Form , so it be not enjoyn'd . A third sort , will vouchsafe to permit the English Liturgy , provided they may have the purgeing of it themselves . And when all 's done , the Sectaries may claim as much right to abolish That , as they to alter This. And now for Ceremonies . They oppose not any Circumstance of Decency and Order , but desire , that mystical Ceremonies of humane Institution , may be abolished or not enjoyned . First , the Dissenters are not the Judges of Decency and Order ; and for Mystical Ceremonies of humane Institution ; ( as Scaliger says of the Sepia ) Caliginem effundit , & evadit ; He troubles the Water , and escapes in the Dark . Multiformity in Religion ( says our Reconciler , pleading for Accommodation ) publickly profess'd , doth not well comport with the spirit of this Nation , which is free , eager , jealous , apt to animosities and jealousies , besides that it hath ever had a strong propension to Vniformity . Observation Had this fallen from a Common pen , I could have better born the Disproportion of his Character of the English Temper , — Free , Eager , Jealous , and yet propense to Vniforformity . This seems to me a mixture incompossible . But the good man means well , and writes so , when he lists . His drift is , to perswade us , that to comply with the Presbytery , is to comport with the spirit of this Nation : which being Free and Eager , seems to Cry , Beware . How blessedly would these Free-spirited Worthies order their Subjects , if they were once in power , that thus presume from their own Level , to Menace and Control Authority . If Toleration might compose the Difference , there were some hope ; but That , alas , is more than they can afford the Government , and much less will they accept it for themselves . The temper of this Kingdom ( says he ) does not well accord with extremes on either hand ; ] and to see the fortune of it , the Presbyterians are just in the Middle . Toleration being not the Daughter of Amity , but of Enmity , ( at least ) in some degree supposeth the party tolerated to be a burden , especially if conceived dangerous to the way established , and commonly holds no longer than meer necessity compels ; and consequently neither party take themselves to be safe , the one always fearing to lose its Authority , and the other its Liberty . Observation Behold a learned Expostulation , and a dutiful . [ Where the party toelrated appears dangerous to the way established : the one fears to lose its Authority , and the other its Liberty . ] There 's no great depth in the discovery , that from an Opinion of mutual Danger , arises mutual Jealousie . But what 's this case to the Subject of our Debate ? By Toleration is not meant an Imprudential Yielding to an Untractable , and Churlish Faction : but a discreet and pious Application of Tenderness toward such as by their Fair Comportment in the Main of Order , and good Manners , appear to merit it . True it is , God himself is the onely Searcher of Hearts , who sees our Thoughts , even in the bed of their Conception . Yet where we find an inconformity of practise to profession : people that strein at a Gnat , and swallow a Camel , We may without offence to Charity , rank those incongruous Christians amongst Hypocrites : and with great Justice hold them to the Law , that strive to bring the Law down to their humors . By the same rule ought we to judge in favour of their Scruples , whose Lives are squar'd by a conform severity and strictness . It is most true , that such Proposals may suffice for Peace , which will not satisfie Humor and Faction , and Carnal Interest . ] Why do we not apply our selves then to the onely Umpire of the Controversie , the setled Law , which without either passion or Design , lays down our Duty , and our Interest ? These wranglings about Trifles do but enflame the Difference , and start new Animosities , instead of quieting the Old. The great pretence of Scandal ( forsooth ) is This. The Presbyterians stick at Ceremonies properly Sacred , and significant by humane institution , which they conceive to be more than meer Circumstances , even parts of Worship ; and whatsoever instituted Worship is not ordained of God , they hold unlawful . This passage lies a little out of my Rode , but however , I 'le make it my way . It is much easier to call our Ceremonies Sacred , and parts of Worship , than to prove them such ; or that we understand them so . Is the manner of doing any thing , part of the thing done ? And for significant by humane Institution ] the Exception is as frivolous . Because that in some Cases even of External Discipline , the Church is limited , does it therefore follow that it is free in none ? or ty'd up onely to such Rites and Ceremonies , as hold no signal proportion with the reason of their Institution ? This Argument cuts their own Throats , since by the significancy of the Sitting posture at the Communion , they ma●ntain the Use of it ; for ( say their Admonitioners ) It BETOKENS Rest , and full Accomplishment of Legal Ceremonies in Christ. They that scruple our mystical significant Ceremonies , conceive that they are properly and meerly sacred , as having the honor of God for their direct and immediate end . These Reasons are but Snares for Woodcocks . That the ultimate end of all our Actions is , or at least ought to be ) the Honor of God , admits no Question ; but 't is not therefore the Immediate end of every thing we do , nor in particular of Ceremonies . The Outward Forms and Rites of publick Worship , direct partly to Uniformity and Order ; and partly to excite due Reverence and Affection in the discharge of holy Duties , by sensible Actions , and remarkable Circumstances . But he persues his Error ; and Instances , That the Surplice is not for gravity , nor meerly for decent distinction , but a religious mystical Habit , the character or badge of a Sacred Office , or Service conformable to the linnen Ephod under the Law. The grand Exception against the Surplice is matter of Scandal , and that amounts to nothing , where people will be peevish , and carp at every thing . Allow it what Original he pleases : If it be neither Unlawful in it self : nor wickedly applyed ; and by Authority thought fit to be Imposed ; why should it not be used ? What says the Incomparable Hooker , in this point ? [ To solemn Actions of Royalty , and State , their suitable Ornaments are a Beauty ; are they onely in Religion a steyn ? ] And in another Place . The names of our Months , and of our Days , we are not ignorant from whence they came , and with what dishonor unto God they are said to have been devised at the first . What could be spoken against any thing more effectual to stir hatred , then that which sometimes the antient Fathers in this case spake ? Yet those very names are at this day in use throughout Christendom , without hurt or scandal to any . Clear and manifest it is , that things devised by Hereticks , yea , devised of a very Herétical purpose , even against Religion , and at their first devising worthy to have been withstood , may in time grow meet to be kept ; as that custome , the Inventers whereof were the * Eunomian Hereticks . So that Customs once established , and confirmed by use , being presently without harm , are not in regard of their Corrupt original , to be held scandalous . But concerning those Ceremonies , which they reckon for most Popish , they are not able to avouch , that any of them was otherwise instituted , than unto good ; yea , so used at the first . ] The signing with the sign of the Cross ( they conceive ) is more evidently sacred than the former . As Baptism consecrates the child , so doth the Cross. It is used as a sealing sign of our Obligation to Christ , as the words used in the Application thereof do manifest , and the Book of Canons doth declare expresly , which saith , [ That it is an honorable badge , whereby the Infant is dedicated to the service of him that died on the Cross , as by the words used in the Book of Common-prayer it may appear . ] And therefore it is in that respect Sacramental . Observation 'T is a well nurtur'd child that gives his Mother the Lye : and it is little better , to charge this sense upon the Church of England , when by the very letter of the Canon , an express care is taken to prevent all possibility of exception , by a clear explication of the Churches judgment in that particular . The Juggle is so gross , I need but cite the Canon to confute it . First , The Church of England , since the abolishing of Popery , hath ever held and taught , and so doth hold and teach still , that the sign of the Cross used in Baptism , is no part of the substance of that Sacrament ; for when the Minister dipping the Infant in water , or laying water upon the face of it ( as the manner also is ) hath pronounced these words , I Baptize thee in the Name of the Father , and of the Son , and of the holy Ghost , the Infant is fully and perfectly Baptized . So as the sign of the Cross being afterwards used , doth neither add any thing to the vertue or perfection of Baptism ; nor being omitted doth detract any thing from the effect and substance of it . Secondly , It is apparent in the Communion Book , that the Infant Baptized is by vertue of Baptism , before it be signed with the sign of the Cross , received into the Congregation of Christs Flock , as a perfect Member thereof , and not by any power ascribed unto the sign of the Cross ; so that for the very remembrance of the Cross , which is very precious to all them that rightly believe in Jesus Christ , and in the other respect mentioned : The Church of England hath retained still the sign in Baptism , following therein the Primitive and Apostolical Churches , and accounting it a lawful outward Ceremony , and honorable Badge , whereby the Infant is dedicated to the service of him that died upon the Cross , as by the words used in the Book of Common-prayer it may appear . ] If this will not suffice to prove , that nothing Sacramental is intended by it , let it be noted , that in private Baptism the Cross is totally omitted . His next exception is at Holy-days : But I shall pass my bounds too far . I 'll borrow one Maxim of the judicious Hooker , ( upon th●t subject ) which shall serve for all . Those things which the Law of God leaveth Arbitrary , and at liberty , are all subject unto positive Laws of men : which Laws , for the common benefit , abridge particular mens libertie in such things , as far as the rules of equity will suffer . After the Quality of our Ceremonies , the holy man will have one fling at the number of them . If the English Ceremonies be warrantably used , what hinders the use of divers other Ceremonies used in the Roman Church ? Is it said , their multitude will become burthensome and inconvenient ? But who can determine the convenient number ? And however , an exchange of one Ceremony for another were not unlawful . For what reason may not some other Romish Rites in Baptism be used as well as the Cross , seeing they are nothing less significant or inoffensive ; nay , peradventure much more inoffensive , because the Papists by giving divine worship to the Cross , have abused it to gross Idolatry . Observation Beggars must be no choosers : Must we use all , or none ? The English Church hath made election of the English Ceremonies ; what , and how many : being the proper Judge both in the point of Number and Convenience . 'T is not for us to Question the Authority , but to Obey it . What if the Cross hath been abused ? So hath the Knee been bent ; the Hands and Eyes addressed to an Idol . Are we , because of this mis-application , prohibited to worship the true God , in the same manner , and posture ? Now to the Liturgy again . The Presbyterians are not satisfied in the present Liturgy , but desire it may be laid aside , or much reformed . And what solid reason withstands the Equity of this desire ? This solid reason does withstand it . They beg like sturdy Cripples , for Christ's sake , with a Cudgel . And 't is not safe for Authority to give ground to a Faction . Whosoever observes impartially , shall find , that political prudence was joyn'd with Christian Piety , in composing the English Service-Book . ] And the same Prudence is now joyn'd with the same Piety , both in the Right , and Interest of preserving it . His next grief is a heavy one . Canonical Subscription lately impos'd , is a yoke of bondage , ( Now mark him ) to be considered by all those that have a true regard to such Liberty in Religion , as Equity and Necessity pleads for . Observation Either this passage is seditious , and to enflame the people against Authority , or I am no Englishman . The Canon ( says he ) requires a subscribing to the thirty nine Articles ; to the Common-Prayer-Book ; to the Book of ordering Bishops , Priests , and Deacons ; that all these contain in them nothing contrary to the Word of God. This is unreasonable , unprofitable , and unnecessary . Nay , let us take in the third Article too , — To wit , [ That the nine and thirty Articles are agreeable to the Word of God. ] And now the form of Subscription , viz. [ I do willingly , and ex animo , subscribe to these three Articles above mentioned , and to all things that are contained in them . This is the Yoke of Bondage , which our Reverend Libertine complains of . First , to the unreasonableness of this subscription . Touching the King's Supremacy , asserted in the first Article , he is silent ; and I suppose he would be thought consenting . As to the rest , what Reason is there that any man should be admitted into the Ministery , without subscribing to the Constitution of that Church , into which he seeks admitance ? If he cannot subscribe in Conscience , he cannot be admitted in Prudence : and if he refuses in point of stomach , that man is not of a Gospel-temper . In fine , he that holds a fair opinion of the Doctrine , and Discipline of the Church of England , may very reasonably set his hand to his opinion : and he that does not , may as reasonably be rejected because of such disagreement . So much for unreasonable ; Neither is it unprofitable : for such as have any spark , either of Honor , or Shame , will in regard to such a Testimony , be tender of giving themselves the Lye , whatever they would do otherwise . His third Cavil is , that it is unnecessary ; ( so are his Exceptions . ) Let any man consider ; when all these Bars and Limits are too little to restrain turbulent and sacrilegious spirits from dangerous and irreverent attempts : what Seas of Schism and Heresie would break in upon us , were but these Banks demolish'd . But he hath found out an expedient , how [ Unity in Doctrine , and Uniformity in practise , may be as well attain'd , and far more kindly , without this enforced Subscription : ( that is ) If no Minister be suffered to Preach , or Write , any thing contrary to the establish'd Doctrine , Worship , or Discipline , nor ordinarily for the main to neglect the establish'd Rule . ] Observation This last passage appears to me most spitefully pleasant . Not ordinarily for the main , that is ; Always sometimes he would neglect the establish'd Rule . If the Laws already in force against Revolters , had been duly executed , 't is likely the Interest of England , in the matter of Religion , had not been now the Question . But still this supposition does not imply an absolute sufficiency of that strictness to all intents and purposes of Order and Agreement . 'T is what we Think , not what we Say ; the harmony of Souls , more then of Forms , which God regards : without that sacred , and entire consent of Judgment , and Affections , the rest is but a flat , and cold formality . Not to act contrary to prescribed Rules , ( where we are bound up by a Penalty ) is but a Negative and Passive Obedience ; a compliance rather with Convenience , than Duty , unless joyn'd with a prone , and full assent , both to the truth and equity of those determinations . For these and many reasons more , Canonical subscription seems to me exceeding necessary . But for those people to decline it , ( upon pretence forsooth of Conscience ) that upon pain of Freedom , and Estates , nay , and of Hell it self , enforced the Covenant , is most unequal . A Presbyterian Preacher , * refused to pray for Sir William Nesbett , late Provost of Edenburgh , when he was lying upon his Death-bed , onely because he had not subscribed the Covenant . Let me be pardoned , if I understand not this incongruous Holiness . As for the Decrees and Canons of the Church , what rightful Authority doth make them , as the Law of the Medes and Persians that altereth not ? Observation Surely his Reverence over-shoots himself . What rightful Authority ? The Kings : and by a less Authority they cannot be discharged . By that Authority , that Licenses x] the Excommunication of the Impugners of the Rites and Ceremonies established in the Church of England : — the Opposers also of the y] Government , by Arch-bishops , Bishops , &c. — By that Authority , to which this Gentleman hath forfeited the Head he wears . Well , but he tells us , The publick state of these differences is such , that the Prelatists may , and ought to descend to the Presbyterians , in the proposed moderate way ; but the Presbyterians cannot come up to the Prelatists in the height of their way . With the King's leave , had been good Manners yet . By what Authority , does Presbytery pretend to unseat the Hierarchy ? All the world knows , ( as much as they know any thing of that Antiquity ) that Bishops are of Apostolical Extraction : and we are not to Imagine , that They died intestate , and their Commission with them . But Bishops have descended already , and what was the event of it ? Truly it was as moderate an Episcopacy as heart could wish : But , as I remember , their Revenues were not employed to maintain a practical Ministery . The Rule is , — Si vis scire an velim , effice ut possim nolle . But see the moderation of the Man. Some change ( he says ) in the outward Form , and Ceremonies , which are but a Garb , or Dress , is no Real Change of the Worship . I thought we had differ'd upon point of Conscience , about * [ Ceremonies properly sacred , — and parts of Worship . ] But now it seems 't is but the Garb , or Dress we stick at . The good-man has forgot himself ; And yet we had best be wary , for 't is but an untoward hint he gives us . Oftentimes ( says he ) moderate Reformations do prevent Abolitions , and Extirpations . ] Observation They do so , often , and sometimes they cause them : that is , Be the State never so distemper'd , where Subjects turn Reformers , the Remedy is worse than the Disease . In fine , when I look back , I find the very same desires of Reformation originally pretended ; which ( after such descensions as never any Prince before the blessed Father of our Gracious Soveraign , made to his Subjects ) proceeded yet to utter extirpation , Root , and Branch . The present face of things looks so like Twenty years ago , I cannot choose but fear the same Design from the same Method ; the same Effects from the same Causes . Is not that likely to be a blessed Reformation , where Faction dictates , and Tumults execute ? But our Pacifick Moderator is of another Temper sure ; he onely advises a Yielding , for fear of worse : especially considering , That the Party called Presbyterian may be Protected , and Encouraged , and the Episcopal not Deserted nor Disoblig'd . which is his Resolution upon the Second Quaere Presbyterian Improvements are commonly a little Sinister ; ( or , as a man may say , over the left shoulder ) They have something an odd way of making a glorious King , and a happy People . But we shall not dispute the possibility of doing many things which may be yet of dangerous Experiment . I do believe it possible for a man to flie ; yet set him upon Pauls , and Lure him down , upon the Trial , 't is at least Six to Four he breaks his Neck . Truly in my Opinion , this Proposal is all out as Impracticable . But 't is all one to Me. What if the Two Church-parties , can Agree , or what if they Cannot ? My business is to keep the Presbyterian from laying Violent hands upon the Civil Power , and to convince a Party so denominated , of Sedition , not of Schism . His third Enquiry follows . Qu. III. Whether the upholding of both Parties by a just and equal Accommodation , be not in it self more desirable , and more agreeable to the State of England , than the absolute exalting of one Party , and the total subversion of the other ? ( And thus he Reasons . That state of Prelacy which cannot stand without the subversion of the Presbyterians , and that stands in opposition to regulated Episcopacy , will become a mystery of a meer carnal and worldly state , under a sacred title , and venerable name of our mother the Church . For in such opposition , of what will it be made up , but of Lordly revenue , dignity , splendor , and jurisdiction , with outward ease and pleasure ! What will its design be from age to age , but to uphold and advance his own pomp and potency ? Read the Ecclesiastical Histories , and you shall find the great business of the Hierarchy hath been to contest with Princes and Nobles , and all ranks and degrees , about their Immunities , Privileges , preheminences , to multiply Constitutions and Ceremonies for props to their own Greatness , but not to promote the spiritual Kingdom of our Lord Jesus Christ in the hearts of People , according to the life and power of Christianity . Observation Let this serve for a taste of his Pedantique boldness . Whether the Scandal , or the Danger of these Liberties is the Greater , may be One Question : and whether the Usurper of this Freedom is the better Subject , or Christian , may be another . If we respect the holy Order of Bishops , together with the sacred Authority of Law , by which they are here established , how scandalous and irreverend is this Invective ! Or if the unsetled humor of the People , how Dangerous ! If we reflect either upon Christian unity , or Political Obedience : how inconsistent is this manner of proceeding , with what we owe to God , and the King ! That State of Prelacy , which cannot stand without the subversion of the Presbyterians , &c. — 'T is very well ; — And why the subversion of the Presbyterians ? How those that never were Vp , should be thrown down , I cannot imagine . By what Law , or by what Equity , do these people pretend to any Interest of Establishment in England ? Those of the Presbyterian judgment , that out of a real tenderness cannot comply in all particulars , will beyond doubt receive from his Majesty such Favour and Indulgence , as may abundantly suffice to their relief . But that pretence doth not one jot entitle them to challenge a further influence upon the Government . These wayward Appetites and Cravings , are but the sickly longings of a peevish Woman : A kind of voluntary and privileged Conscience they have , which if it happens to take a fancy even to the Crown , Monarchy it self must rather perish , than these poor Wretches lose their longings . Soberly I would advise them by any means , to waive these troublesome and groundless pretences . It starts a scurvy Question , and makes men ask , how these people came by the right they challenge ? For the rest ; Episcopacy is like to be well ordered , when the Presbyterians have the Regulation of it . There have been great contests ( no question ) mov'd by the Hierarchy ; but I suppose this Gentleman will not instance in many , ●ince the Reformation , derogatory to the Jurisdiction Royal : Whereas the whole course of the Presbyterian Discipline hath been Tumultuous ; and their avowed Principles are more destructive to Royalty , than even the Rankest of the Jesuites themselves . Having at length Talk'd his Fill against the Pomp of Prelacy ; and Charg'd the arrogance of Presbyters upon the Bishops : Thus he Concludes , In very deed , the State here described , will never stand safely among a people that are Free , Serious , Searching , and Discerning in matters of Religion . ] Which to the Many , sounds thus much . This is the pride and Tyranny of Bishops : and none but a Slavish and Besotted people will endure it . He that makes other of it , forces it . Having by the spirit of natural Divination foretold the Effects which he himself intends to Cause ; he gives this Hint to the Vulgar , that [ a Hierarchy of this Nature hath a strong bias toward Popery . ] No doubt , and so had Monarchy . Was not this Imputation , by the same Party , cast upon the late King , and with the same measure of Confidence and Bitterness ? when yet we know , that those that charged him with it , did not believe themselves ; it was so rank , and evident a Calumny . Nor to insist upon the Dying Testimony of that Incomparable Prince ; ( which was but suitable to the Pious Practise and Profession of his whole Life ) That early Protestation of his Majesties , before his receiving of the holy Eucharist at Christ-Church in Oxon , 1643. will be more pertinent to my purpose . His Majesty being to receive the Sacrament from the hands of the Lord Arch-bishop of Armagh , used these publick Expressions immediately before his receiving the blessed Elements , he rose up from his Knees , and beckning to the Arch-bishop for a short forbearance , made this Protestation . My Lord , I Espy here many resolved Protestants , who may declare to the world the Resolution I now do make . I have to the utmost of my power prepared my Soul to become a worthy Receiver ; and may I so receive Comfort by the Blessed Sacrament , as I do intend the Establishment of the true reformed Protestant Religion , as it stood in its Beauty in the happy days of Queen Elizabeth , without any Connivence at Popery . I bless God , that in the midst of these publick Distractions , I have still Liberty to Communicate ; and may this Sacrament be my Damnation , if my Heart do not joyn with My Lips in this Protestation . This was not yet enough to allay the clamour , till with his Royal Blood he had seal'd this Protestation . If the Objector can produce a fouler Injury , either to Religion , Duty , Truth , Honor , or Humanity , let it be done , to save the credit of the Faction , unless they reckon the Superlative perfection of their wickedness , a point of Glory . His next remark is not amiss . [ Let it be well observ'd , that the designs of suppressing Puritans , and complying with Papists , had their beginning both at once , and proceeded in equal paces . Observation Let it be here as well observ'd , that if by Puritans be meant those of the Separation , by Papists is intended such as kept their Stations : These Squires of the Revolt , esteeming as Anti-christian , whatever stands in opposition to their heady purposes . We have this both from Story and Experience , that it hath been the constant practise of these unmannerly Apostates , to speak evil of Dignities ; & being fall'n off themselves , it is but carnal prudence , by damning of the Authority to justifie the Schism . No wonder then , if the designs of suppressing Puritans , and complying with Papists , had ( in his sense ) the same beginning , and proceeded in equal paces . To bring himself off , he shifts it thus . [ According to a vulgar sense , we take Popery in the heighth thereof , for the Heresies and Idolatries ; and in the lower degree thereof , for the gross Errors and Superstitions of the Church of Rome . ] And 't is against English Popery in the lower degree , that he plants his battery : arguing so formally against our going over to Rome , that any Stranger to the Story would swear , — The Prelates and the Pope were more then half agreed already . Having at length with great good-will advised the Church of England as to the Main , he concludes , that [ All approaches and motions towards Rome are dangerous . ] But are not all recesses from Truth , more dangerous : Because in every thing we cannot agree with them , must we in nothing ? To me this appears rather petulancy , then pious reason . We are to hold fast the Truth , where-ever it lyes : and to embrace what 's good , and laudable in any Church , without adhering to the contrary . Did not St. Paul become all things to all men , that by all means he might gain some ? But if we walk upon the Brink ( he tells us ) we may soon fall into the Pit. ) These wary men forget , that there 's a Gulf on the one hand , as well as a Pit on the other : and that the narrow way is that which leads to eternal happiness . But as to Reason of State ( he says that ) enmity with Rome , hath been reputed the Stability of England ; concerning which the Duke of Rhoan hath delivered this Maxime ; [ That besides the Interest which the King of England hath common with all Princes , he hath yet one particular , which is , that he ought throughly to acquire the advancement of the Protestant Relig●●n , even with as much zeal as the King of Spain appears Protector of the Catholick . Allow this Maxime good in State , he hath but found a Rod to whip himself . The King of England ought to advance the Protestant Religion . ] Content . What now if these Disciplinarians prove no Protestants ? but rather a Schismatical , and dividing Party , driving an Interest of their own , under that specious name , and with great shew of Holiness , opposing not only the practises and Rules of the Reformed Churches , but even the fundamentals of Christianity it self ? By whom will they be tryed , or on what Judgement , and Authority will they rest ? They quarrel with the Order of Bishops ; the Common-Prayer ; the Rites and Ceremonies of the Church ; the Law of the Land , with Customes , and Antiquity : In short , with every thing but the Geneva Discipline . They do by That too , as our Gallants do by French-fashions . The Court of France being the Standard of queint Mode and Dress , to the one , as is Geneva of Church order to the other : What is there used , though in it self extravagant enough , our humour is to over-do ; and if the French wear but wide Breeches , we forsooth must wear Petticoats . Consult the learned and most eminent Assertors of their Discipline ; ask the grand Architect himself , or indeed , any of his Sectators , ( of fair and honourable credit ) concerning the Subject of our present Controversie . And 1. Whether it be a Protestant Opinion , that the Hierarchy is Antich●istian ? II. Whether such Laws of Humane Institution , as neither contradict the general Laws of Nature , nor any Positive Law in Scripture , be binding or no ? III. In case of Male-Administration , either in Church , or State : Whether the People may take upon them to Reform ? But this they are not so stiff in , as to maintain it , but by blind inferences not worth regard . This is the State of our dispute ; and if in these particulars our Anti-prelatists oppose the current of Reformed Divines : to advance their Interest , is to undermine the common Interest of the King , Nation , and the Protestant Cause . Needs must it move many Revolts , and keep off many Proselytes , to see such principles declared of the Essence of Christian Religion , as a good honest Pagan would be ashamed of . Nor less repugnant are they to Rules of Society , than of Conscience ; No Tyranny so cruel and Imperious ; no Slavery so reprochful . Set up their Discipline , and we 're at School again . Methinks I see a Presbyter with his Rod over every Parish ; and the whole Nation turning up their Tails to a pack of Pedants . Yet hateful as it is , even that it self , establish'd by Authority , might challenge our Obedience . I have digress'd too far ; yet in convenient place , I must say something further upon this Subject . If our new fangled Polititian had consider'd , that the Kings Interest leads him to support , that which the Presbyterians strive to overthrow , ( the Protestant Religion ) I am perswaded he would have spared the Duke of Rhoan in this particular . The Maxime even as it lies before us , affording matter of dangerous Deduction to his disadvantage : but taken in Coherence , nothing can be more sharp and positive against him . That great and wise Captain the Duke of Rhoan , discoursing upon what reasons of State , Q. Elizabeth acted toward Spain , France , and the United Provinces ; tells us particularly , how much she favoured the Protestants in France , & Germany . [ Par toutes ces maximes , ( dit il ) cette sage Princesse a bien fait comprendre , a ses successeurs , que outre l' interest que l' Angleterre a commun avec tous les Princes , &c. — By all these Maximes ( says he ) this wise Princess hath given her Successors to understand , that besides the Interest which England hath common with other Princes , yet one particular it hath , which is to advance the Protestant Religion with the same zeal , the King of Spain does the Catholick . Be it here noted , that when the Queen was most concern'd , and busie to promote the Protestant Cause , even at that very time was She as much employ'd to crush the Presbyterian Faction , viz. Cartwright , Coppinger , Arthington , Hacket , and their Confederates . The First of these was imprison'd , and fined for Seditious and Schismatical practises against the Church and State. The Second starved himself in a Gaol ; The Third repented , and publickly recanted : The Fourth was put to Death for horrid Blasphemies . ( These people talk'd of a practical Ministery too . — ( The Men are gone , but their positions are still in being , and only attend a blessed opportunity to be put in execution . This may appear from divers late discourses , which are effectually no other then Cartwrights Principles , and Model , couch'd in warier terms , and other Authority than these , or such as these , I think the very Authors of them will scarce pretend to . One Observation more . Our Paraphrast renders the advancement of the Protestant Religion , — Enmity with Rome , to the great scandal of the Reform'd Profession . We have no Enmity but with Errour , which in a rigid Puritan , to us , is the same thing as in a Papist . But Popery ( he tells us ) hath been ever infamous for excommunicating , murthering , and deposing Princes . I am no advocate for the Roman Cause , but upon this account , I think betwixt the Jesuite , and the Puritan , it may be a drawn Battel . And yet he follows , with an assurance that the Protestant Religion aims at nothing , but that the Kings Prerogative , and popular Liberty , may be even Ballanced . ( That is , the Puritan , — the Presbyterian Religion , as he explains himself a little lower . I cannot call to mind one single passage in this whole Discourse , concerning the Kings Power , or the Peoples Liberty ; which is not either worded Doubtfully or with some popular Limitation upon the Royal Authority . What does he mean by even Ballancing ? Cheek by Joul ? Or by what Warrant from the word of God , does a Presbyters Religion intermeddle with Popular Liberty ? Unless the holy man intends to bring Homage to Kings , within the compass of Ceremonies of Humane , and Mystical Institution . Yet once again . The Presbyterian Principle ( he sayes ) is for subjection to Princes , though they were Hereticks , or Infidels ; and if they differ herein from the Prelatical Protestant , ( I was afraid we had been all Papists ) it is only that they plead for Liberty , setled by known Laws , and fundamental Constitutiont . ] Still ad Populum ? these are the Incantations which have bewitch'd this Nation . This Charm of qualify'd Disloyalty , and Conditional Obedience . Behold the very Soul of the Faction in these five lines ; a fair profession first to his Majesty , and with the same breath a seditious hint to the People . What is that Liberty he talks of , but a more colourable title to a Tumult ? That Legal Freedome , to which both by the Royal Bounty , and our own Birth-right we stand entituled , we ought not to contest for with our Soveraign , and ( God be prays'd ) we need not , Now for another fit of kindnesse . His Majesty our Native King , may govern as he pleases , without fear of Hazards , by continuing to shew himself a Common Father . Observation What 's this cause a kin to the third Article of the Covenant ? To preserve and defend the Kings Majesties person and Authority , in the preservation and defence of the true religion , and Liberties of the Kingdoms , ] ( as who should say , if , he does otherwise , let him look to himself . The excessive Dominion of the Hierarchy , with the rigorous imposition of humane Ceremonies was accounted much of the malady of former times , which ended in those deadly Convulsions of Church and State. Observation Since this pragmatical Levite will provoke a Controversie , I am content to entertain it . If the Bishops excesses were the Cause of War , how came the Kings ruine to be the effect of it ? But 't is no new thing for a Presbyterian to saddle the wrong Horse . Just in this manner did the Covenanters treat his late Majesty : and by those very Troops that cryed down Bishops was the King murther'd . Ridiculous Brutes , to boggle at a Surplice , and yet run headlong into a Rebellion . The grand source of our Miseries was the Covenant , by which , as by a Spell ( in the Name of the blessed Trinity ) the people were insensibly bewitched into an aptnesse to work any wickednesse which the Interpreters of that Oracle should say was the Intendment of it . The first notorious Rupture was in Scotland , in 1637. attended with a COVENANT , which without Question was formerly agreed upon by the confederate Faction of both Kingdoms , as the most proper and least hazardous way of tasting the Kings patience , and the Peoples humours . That their design was laid and carried on by Counsels , and Intelligence as aforesaid , may be collected from the Consequent , and brotherly Agreements : and truly the Retrospect of the Act of Indemnity seems to hint no lesse , for it commences from the first Scottish Broyls , tho' four or five years before the War brake out in England ; what was begun by Covenant , was so prosecuted . By virtue of the Covenant the Kirk-party supply'd themselves with Men and Monies : Armies were brought into the Field ; and beyond doubt , many that truly loved the King , not knowing what they did , ingaged against him . To keep up this delusion , the Press and Pulpit did their parts , and to deal freely after this advance , I should as much have wondred if they had stop'd short of his death , as I find others wondering how they durst accomplish it . Death with a Bullet or an Axe , is the same Mischief to him that suffers it : and the same Crime , wilfully done , in those that Act it . No man can rationally allow one , and condemn the other : For if the Violence be Lawful ; why not as well in the Field , as upon a Scaffold ? In this particular , the Doctor is beside his Cushion . He makes me think of the Marquiss of Newcastle , upon a sawcy Clergy-man . Why should I remember that he 's a Priest ( says my Lord ) if he forgets it himself ? His next argument against Prelacy is a Modest , and ( as I take it , ) a queint One. Can the self same State ( sayes he ) and Frame of Ecclesiasticks be now revived after so great and long continued alterations , by which the Anti-prelatical party is exceedingly increased and strengthned ? Surely this Gentleman has a mind to give his Brother Crofton a visit . Cannot Prelacy be better restored after a Discontinuance , then Presbytery erected , where it never had a Being ? The very Laws are yet to make , for the One , and still in force for the Other . But the great Obstacle is , the Anti-prelatical party is exceedingly increased , and strengthned . ] Truly I think , if his Majesty should lessen the Number of them , by two or three of the Promoters of that Doctrine , the Precedent might do some good upon the rest . Can any thing be more feditious ? These hints upon fair grounds and given in private , might very well become the gravity of a Churchman , or the profession of a Loyal Subject . But to the People , these Calculations are Dictates of Sedition ; and only meant to engage the credulous and heady multitude in false opinions both of the Tyranny of Prelates , and their own Power . Thus far in Observation upon the first Part of The Interest of England , in the matter of Religion , &c. — The whole Structure whereof ( in his own words ) rests upon these Positions , as its adequate foundation . 1. That whilest the two forenamed Parties remain divided , both the Protestant Religion , and the Kingdome of England is divided against it self . 2. That the Presbyterians cannot be rooted out , nor their Interest swallowed up , whilest the State of England remaineth Protestant . 3. That their subversion if it be possible to be accomplished , will be very pernicious to the Protestant Religion , and the Kingdome of England . 4. That the Coalition of both Parties into one may be effected by an equal accommodation , without repugnancy to their conscientions Principles on either side , in so much that nothing justifiable by Religion or sound Reason can put a Bar to this desirable Union . The whole matter ( in Debate he tells us ) rests upon three main Enquiries . I. Qu. Whether in Justice or Reason of State the Presbyterian Party should be Rejected and Depressed , or Protected and Incouraged . II. Qu. Whether the Presbyterian Party may be protected and incouraged , and the Episcopal not Deserted nor Dis-obliged . III. Qu. Whether the Upholding of both parties by a just and equal accommodation be not in it self more desireable and more agreeable to the State of England , than the absolute exalting of the one party and the total subversion of the other . Observation I shall now offer some further Reasonings of my Own ; upon this Subject ; therein proposing such Brevity and Clearnesse ; that both the Lazy , and the Busie may find time to read it , and the Weakest not want Capacity to understand it . His first Position holds no further good , then as the Presbyterians are first Protestants in the matter of the difference , and then Considerable in the ballance of the Nation . Religion led the Quarrel , so let it the Dispute . In using the word Protestant , I follow Custome , for I had rather call it Catholick : but Protestant let it be . I suppose by the Protestant Religion , we understand That of the Reformed Churches : to whose Decision we shall willingly submit the sum of our Disagreements : which may be stated under a Reduction to these Two Questions . I. Qu. Whether or no the Government of the Church by Archbishops & Bishops — be Antichristian , or Unlawful ? II. Whether such Laws of Humane and Significant Institution , as are orderly made , and neither contradict the General Laws of Nature , nor any positive Law in Scripture , — be Binding or not ? First , concerning the Prelacy : Luther himself distinguishes betwixt Popish Tyrants , and True Bishops : professing his Quarrel to them as Popish not as Bishops . The Authors of the Augustane Confession , leave it upon Record , That they would willingly preserve the Ecclesiastical and Canonical Polity , if the Bishops would cease to Tyrannize over their Churches . ] Bucer advises by all means the restoring of such Ecclesiastical Governments as the Canons prescribe , ( Episcopis & Metropolitanis ) to Bishops and Metropolitans . Melancthon to Luther , — You would not imagine ( says he ) how some people are netled to see Church-policy restored : as if it were the Romish Soveraignty again . ] Ita de Regno suo , non de Evangelio , dimicant socii nostri . Calvin himself recommends the Hierarchy to the King of Poland : and treating concerning the Primitive Church , says , That the Antient Government by Arch-bishops and Bishops , and the Nicene constitution of Patriarchs , was for Orders sake , and good Government . [ Ad Disciplinae conservationem pertinebat . ] The same person being called to accompt by Cardinal Sadolet , concerning the Geneva defection , and for subscribing the Augustane Confession , renders this Answer . Cursed be such as oppose that Hierarchy , which submits it self to Christ Jesus . [ Nullo non Anathemate dignos censeo , quotquot illi Hierarchiae , qui se Domino Jesu submittit , subjici nolunt . Zanchi ( the Compiler of the Gallican Confession ) observes a Change of Name , rather than of Office , throughout most of the German Churches . Bishops and Arch-bishops being onely disguised under the notion of Super-intendents , and General-Superintendents : acknowledging , That by the consent of Histories , Counsels , and the antient Fathers , those Orders have been generally Allow'd by all Christian Societies . Beza , ( the rigid Successor of Calvin ) being check'd by the Arch-bishop of Canterbury , for intermedling beyond his Spheare , — We do not charge ( says he ) all Archbishops and Bishops with Tyranny . — The Church of England hath afforded many learned Men , and many glorious Martyrs of that Function . If that Authority be there still in Beeing , may a perpetual Blessing go along with it . [ Fruatur sane istâ singulari Dei beneficentiâ , quae utinam illi sit perpetua . ] This with all Ceremony was addressed , — Totius Angliae Primati : To the Primate of all England , and in the name of the whole Church of Geneva . Saravia makes him him speak yet plainer ; who arguing for the Hierarchy out of the Apostles Canons , receives from Beza this Reply . This is no more then what we wish might be restored to all Churches . [ Quid aliud hic statuitur , quam quod in omnibus locis , Ecclesiis restitutum cupimus ? ] Zanchi comes up to the very Case of England ; ( nay , and a little further too ) not onely affirming Episcopacy to be agreeable to the Word of God : But where it is in exercise , that it ought to continue , and where by violence it hath been abolish'd , that it ought to be restor'd . [ * Vbi vigent ( Isti ordines scil . ) non esse Abolendos , & ubicunque Iniquitas temporum eos abolevit Restituendos . ] With what Face now shall the Enemies of Bishops call themselves Protestants , in this particular at least , wherein they evidently cross the whole stream of Protestant Divines ? Now to the second Quae●e . Whether such Laws of Humane , and significant Institution , as are orderly made , and neither contradict the general Laws of Nature , nor any positive Law in Scripture , be binding or not ? Hear Calvin first , [ Quamvis quod oberuditur scandalum afferat , quia tamen verbo Dei per se non repugnat concedi potest . ] Scandals Taken , without repugnancy to the Word of God , are not sufficient to invalidate the obligation of a Ceremony imposed by the Church . Beza himself , nay , Mr. Cartwright , the Captain of our blessed Legions , will allow , rather than quit a Benefice , to wear a Surplice . Bucer thanks God with all his soul to see the English Ceremonies so pure , and conform to the Word of God , or at least , ( rightly understood ) not contrary to it . Not to hunt further for particular Authorities , I shall be bold with my own Brother , and make use of some general Collections which he hath gathered ready to my hand . Nothing assuredly can be more demonstrative of the Protestant Tenets , than the Confession of their several Churches . That of Helvetia first , [ Churches have always used their Liberty in Rites , as being things indifferent , which we also do at this day . ] That of Bohemia ; [ Humane Traditions and Ceremonies brought in by a good custom , are with an uniform consent to be retained in the Ecclesiastical Assemblies of Christian People , at the common Service of God. ] The Gallican ; [ Every place may have their peculiar constitutions , as it shall seem convenient for them . ] The Belgick ; [ We receive those Laws as are fit , either to cherish or maintain concord , or to keep us in the obedience of God. ] That of Ausburg ; [ Ecclesiastical Rites which are ordained by mans Authority , and tend to quietness and good order in the Church , are to be observed . ] That of Saxony ; [ For order sake , there must be some decent and seemly Ceremonies . ] That of Swethland ; [ Such Traditions of men as agree with the Scriptures , and were ordained for good manners , and the profit of men , are worthily to be accounted rather of God than of Man. ] These were the Tenents they publickly owned , nor did they act different from what they taught , ordaining Churches , Pulpits , Prayers before and after Sermon , administring the Sacraments in Churches , delivering the Communion in the forenoon to Women , Baptizing Infants , and several other things , not one whereof were directly commanded by either Christ , or his Apostles . From hence 't is manifest , we may divide from Presbyterians , and yet the Protestant Religion not be divided against it self . A Schism there is , but whether in the Church , or in the Faction , is onely a dispute for those that plead the Authority of Tumults . As their opinions are not one jot Protestant , where they divide from Bishops ; so neither are their Morals any more warrantable , wherein they act as Men. Which shall we credit , Words , or Deeds ? Will they not Bite ; where they pretend to Kiss ? A famous Martyr of that Party , ( Hacket ) served a fellow so . Some difference there had been , and they were to be made friends . Hacket pretends a Reconcilement ; takes the man in his Arms , bites off his Nose , and swallows it . This is that Hacket that was joyn'd with Coppinger , and Archington , in a plot to murder the Lords in the Star-chamber , because they had committed Cartwright , ( the great Rabbi of the Party ) whose Crime was onely the erecting of the Presbytery without , and against the Queens Authority . Thus we see , That in Queen Elizabeth 's days too , the Protestant Religion was divided against it self . Briefly , that it is not Religion which moves these people , is most apparent , from their unquiet and distempered Actings . Proceed we now to enquire what it is , or in plain terms , to unmasque the Holy Cheat , and shew it bare-fac'd to the people . Of all Impressions , those of Religion are the deepests ; and of all Errors , the most to be lamented and indulged , are those of tender and mis-guided Consciences . The clearness of this Principle considered , it is no wonder that the foulest designs , put on the greatest shews of Holiness , as the onely way to gain and rule affections , without which , no great matters can be accomplish'd . This is a truth well known to the Presbyterians , and of experiment as antient as their Discipline . We do not undertake to read their Hearts , but their VVritings we may venture upon ; enquire a little into their practises , and by comparing both , give some tolerable guess at their Intentions . The readiest way is to look back , and match them ; for the best prospect of the future is behind us . Some grumblings toward the Consistorian discipline , there were in the days of Edw. 6. but the first notorious Separation was that of Frankford , ( in the Reign of Queen Mary ) when Gilby , Goodman , and Whitingham , with their Companions , flew off , and went to Geneva , from whence they returned into England , soon after Queen Elizabeth came to the Crown . These led the Dance in England ; Knox in Scotland : and at this day our Presbyterians do but write after their Copy : professing the same Principles , pretending the same Scruples , and beyond doubt proposing the same End ; which was to get the same Dominion here , which Calvin and Beza exercised at Geneva : to whom they still repair'd for Counsel as they needed . Cartwright and Travers came in the breech of these , but not without consulting Beza first , to learn the Knack of the Geneva Model . These were the men that first brought into England that horrible Position , that the Geneva Discipline was as essential a Note of the Church , as either the true preaching of the Word , or the due Administration of the Sacraments . This is the Principle which supports the Presbyterian Interest . For the first thirteen years of the Queen's Reign , they contented themselves to throw about their Libels against Ceremonies , and divide into Conventicles . In the fourteenth of her Majesty , they addressed two Admonitions to the Parliament ; the former in the quality of a Remonstrance , with a Platform ; the other , bolder , and more peremptory . This Parliament was no sooner Dissolved , but they fell presently to work upon their Discipline ; the Progress whereof is with great exactness set down in the Third Book of Bancroft's dangerous Positions . In 1572. a Presbytery was erected at Wandesworth in Surrey , at which time they had also their Conventicles in London , where little was debated , but against Subscription , the Attire , and Book of Common-prayer . In 82. A meeting was appointed of 60 Ministers , out of Essex , Cambridge-shire , and Norfolk , at Cockfield ; to confer about the Common-prayer , — what might be tolerated . ] In 83. The form of Discipline was compiled , and Decrees made touching the practise of it , which soon after were put in execution . ] In 87. The Discipline was received , and put in practise in Northampton-shire . ] In 88. A Classical Assembly at Coventry . ] In 89. A general Meeting in Cambridge , and another at Ipswitch . ] In 1590. Vpon the detection of the Premises , they refused to answer upon Oath . Being thus Associated , they appropriate to their Meetings the name of the Church , and use the style . The Offices of the Lord Arch-bishops , and Bishops , &c. ( says Martin Junior ) are condemn'd by the Doctrin of the Church of England . ] By these degrees , the Schismaticks advanced to a dangerous heighth , and Boldness ; and of this temper and extraction are our Presbyterians . After the aforemention'd discovery , a stricter eye and hand was kept upon them ; divers of the Ring-leaders were imprison'd , and the Covy broken . Upon the coming in of King James , they began to stir again ; but he knew them too well , either to Trust , or Suffer them . How they behaved themselves towards the late King , is to the eternal Infamy , not onely of the Faction , but of the Nation , too notorious : What they design toward the present Government , That 's the Question : And now I come to enquire . — Whether in Justice or Reason of State the Presbyterian Party should be Rejected and Depressed , or Protected and Incouraged . Before I fall upon the Question , once again I explain my self . By PRESBYTERIAN , I intend a Faction , that under colour of setling a Reform'd DISCIPLINE , seeks to dissolve the frame of an establish'd Government . And first , I am to prove that Party so distinguish'd , such a Faction , which both from their own Practises , Positions , and from Common Observation , and Authority , I think I shall make good ; and that their last aim is to exercise that Tyranny themselves , which they pretend to punish . We 'l first examine how they treat the Civil Power . If Princes be Tyrants against God and his Truth , their Subjects are freed from their Oaths of Obedience . Kings , Princes , and Governors , have their Authority of the People , and upon Occasion , the People may take it away again . Ministers ought not to obey the Prince , when he prescribes Ceremonies , and a Fashion of Apparel . Evil Princes ought by the Law of God to be deposed . Andrew Melvil being cited to answer for Treason delivered in a Sermon , declined the judgment of the King , affirming , That what was spoken in Pulpit , ought first to be tried and judged by the Presbytery ; and that neither the King nor Counsel might in primâ instantiâ , meddle therewith , although the speeches were Treasonable . ] Strike the Basilique vein ; nothing but this will cure the Plurisie of our State. Let us never give over , till we have the King in our power , and then he shall see how good Subjects we are . ( Delivered in a Sermon . ) It is lawful for Subjects to make a Covenant , and Combination without the King. But to come nearer Home , to shew that the whole Gang is of the same Leaven . Worse than all this was daily printed against the late King , even by those Persons that were in pay to the Presbyterian Faction : and yet at last , those outrages are justifi'd against the Father , by such as would be thought Loyal to the Son. If Parliaments think to scape better , they are deceived . If the Brethren cannot obtain their will by suit , nor dispute , the Multitude and People must do the Feat . One preached , That though there were never so many Acts of Parliament against the Covenant , yet it ought to be maintain'd against them all . The Parliament can make no Law at all concerning the Church , but onely ratifie what the Church decrees : and after it hath ratifi'd it , yet if the Assembly of the Church shall prohibite it , and repeal that Decree of the Church , all the Subjects are discharged from yielding obedience to that Act of Parliament . An Assembly may abrogate Acts of Parliament , if they any way reflect upon business of the Church . Reformation of Religion belongs to the Commonalty . Of the Parliament in the 24 year of the Queen , ( says the Supplication ) if the desired Reformation be not granted . ] There shall not be a man of their seed that shall prosper , be a Parliament man , or bear Rule in England any more . Concerning Laws established ; They Fall in Consequence with the Power that makes them . Presbyterians opinion of Bishops Let us see now with what modesty they treat the Church , and first the Bishops . They are Ordinances of the Devil , — Proud , Popish , presumptuous , prophane , paltry , pestilent , pernicious Prelates , and Vsurpers , — Robbers , Wolves , Simoniacks , Persecutors , Sowers of Sedition , Dragons , ( and so to the end of the Chapter . ) Their Clergy , an Antichristian , Swinish Rabble , — The Ministers are neither Proved , Elected , Called , nor Ordained according to Gods Word . The Ceremonies , — Carnal , Beggerly , Antichristian Pomps . Presbyterian Reformation . Hitherto , the Faults of Governors , and Government , now their Proposals of Amendment , and Reformation ; by what Rules , and by what Means we may be Governed Better . Thus then . Let the whole Government of the Church be committed to Ministers , Elders , and Deacons . Very good , and to whom the Government of the State ? Why to Them too . For the Church wherein any Magistrate , King , or Emperor is a Member , is divided into some that are to Govern : viz. Pastors , Doctors , and Elders : and into such as are to obey , viz. Magistrates of all sorts , and the People . The Question is next , about the Extent of the Ecclesiastical Power , and in what manner that Assumption hooks in all Civil Actions within their Cognisance ? In Ordine ad Spiritualia , Forsooth : by which rule nothing scapes them . 'T is the desire of the Admonitor ; That he and his Companions may be deliver'd by Act of Parliament , from the Authority of the Civil Magistrates : as Justices , and others , and from their Inditings , and Finings . ] The Eldership shall suffer no leud customs to remain in their Parishes , either Games , or otherwise . ] And further ; The Office of the Church-Governors , is to decide Controversies in Doctrine and Manners , so far as pertaineth to Conscience and the Church-censures . ] Every Fault ( says Cartwright ) that tendeth either to the Hurt of a man's neighbour , or to the hindrance of the glory of God , is to be examined and dealt in by the Orders of the holy Church . ] Nay , Knox goes further yet . The bare Suspition of Avarice , or of Pride , Superfluity , or Riotousness in Chear or Rayment . ] — Even this Nicety falls within their Censure . Now would I know what need of a Civil Magistrate , when even our private thoughts are subjected to the Scrutiny of a Presbytery ? But will some say , What signifies the intemperance of Particular tongues , as to the General of the Party ? I am challenged by the Author of the Interest of England , to produce their Actions : and That 's my next immediate Business . The Presbyter has now the Chair , see how he manages his Greatness . None of that Tyranny ye found in Bishops , I warrant ye : no groaning now under the Yoke of Antichrist ; the intolerable burthen of canonical Subscription ; the Imposition of Ceremonies , properly sacred ; the Injunction of the Cross in Baptism ; and that abominable Idol , the Common-Prayer . Some words perhaps may slip unwarily , that might have been as well let alone ; but alas good people , they mean no harm . Suppose that some of this way were guilty of some provoking forwardness , should grave Patriots , and wise counsellors thereupon destroy the weak Party , or rather heal it ? 'T is indeed possible , that in the heat of a Reforming and Spiritual Zeal , they may have let fall Speeches of holy Indignation against the opposers of the * LORD'S ORDINANCE . But have they shewed their disaffection either to * King or Parliament , by any thing discernable in their outward behaviour : have they controlled the Law of the Land , or the just Liberty of the People ? If they have not done all this , there 's a great failing both in our Stories , and our Memories . I know 't will be objected , they Petition'd , and in a supplicant and humble way , suitable to the duty of good Subjects . They did Retition ; and in this manner — ( about the. 27. of the Queen . ) May it please your Majesty , &c. — That it may be Enacted , &c. — That the Book hereunto annexed , &c. Intituled , A Book of the Form of Common-Prayers , Administration of Sacraments , &c — And every thing therein contain'd , may be from henceforth authorized , put in ure , and practised throughout all Your Majesty's Dominions . Herein they press upon the Nation their own Form , which would not yet allow of any Other . What they could not get establish'd by Law , they settle yet by Practice , and privately agree upon a general endeavour to encrease the Party . ] But say they should be opposed ? Why then , have a fling at Evil Counsellors . [ If her Majesty give ear to such Counsellors , she may have cause one day to lament . ] Then they Remonstrate , how miserably poor men have been handled ; ] That godly Ministers have been brought before the Bars of Justice ; ] and that if this Persecution be not provided for , it is the case of many a thousand in England : great troubles will come of it . ] This numerous party will not vary from it self , &c. — The minds of men are fix'd in this Opinion , and are not like to be reduced to the practise of former times . ] Well said I. C. yet , Thousands ( says another ) do sigh for this Discipline ; and ten thousands have sought it . ] We do protest unto Your Majesty ( say the Supplicators ) that we will be no longer subject unto the Bishops unlawful , and usurped Authority , &c. ] — And another . [ The truth will prevail ( speaking of the Discipline ) in spight of your teeth , ( meaning the Bishops ) and all other Adversaries of it . ] In the late King's Declaration concerning the tumults in Scotland : this way of Petitioning is very frequent : and this is that my friend hints , in saying , That the Presbyterians have never ceased to sollicite , and supplicate , &c. ] But Words draw no Blood. 'T is true , but such as these come very near it . We phancy first , defects in Government ; then we discourse them ; after that , we propose a Reformation , which , if rejected , we proceed to press it : the next step is a Threat , and then a Blow . Where there are failings in Authority , 't is not for private Persons to take Publick notice of them . Who ever does that , would strike , if he durst . This is not meant of every slip , in common discourse , either of Heat , or Inadvertency ; yet that is very ill too ) but of deliberate Affronts ; such as proceed from a form'd Habit of Irreverence : and in that Case , I think 't were no hard measure , if he that sets his hand to the King's dishonor , should lose his Head for 't . Take it at worst . Put case a Prince Misgoverns ; yet we are sure , that his Superior does not ; and that respect we cannot pay to his failings , we must allow to his Commission . From VVords proceed we now to Actions . Presbyterian Practices toward their SOVEREIGN . THE Presbyterian is no sooner in the Saddle , but ( in the name of Reformation ) how the man Gallops : Kings , Parliaments , Laws and Liberties , Oathes and Covenants , are but as feathers in his way . I shall not clog this Section with many Instances . The Traiterous actings of the Conventicle at Glasgow , in 1638. the horrid outrages that usher'd it , and the most deplorable consequences that ensu'd upon it , contain enough to brand that Faction to eternity . I shall the rather fix there , because it brings the Case home ; and first , in regard that the Schismaticks of both Nations acted by the same tie of Oath and Interest . Next , as it is the Model , they have made the people swear they would be damn'd by . Some of their many Insolencies are these . I. The Assembly is Independent , either from King or Parliament , in matters Ecclesiastical . II. It is lawful for Subjects to Covenant and Combine without the King , and to enter into a Bond of mutual defence against him . III. An Assembly may abrogate Acts of Parliament , and discharge their fellow-Subjects from obedience to them , if they any way reflect upon the business of the Church . IV. They deny the King 's right of Calling or Dissolving Assemblies , and they continue to Sit and Act , notwithstanding his Majesty's express Order for their Dissolution . ( See the King's Declaration . ) These Rebellious proceedings are yet darkned by the transcending Usurpations that followed them . But here I am bounded ; This onely I may say ; Who ever has a mind to run the extremities of another War , and to see another King murther'd , let him give his Vote for Presbytery . And here let every man look behind him , and lay his finger on his mouth . As the Geneva Discipline is injurious to Kings , and stated Laws , so it is most ridiculously tyrannous to the People . A great uproar arising in Edinburgh , about the making of a Robin-hood , they of the Consistory did excommunicate the whole Multitude . ] 'T is a strange tenderness possesses these Saints . One of them being to Christen a child , brake off in the middle of the Action , because he would not call it Richard. ] I suppose no man knew this kind of Cattel better than King James . I was persecuted ( says that learned Prince ) by Puritans , not from my Birth onely , but even since four Months before my Birth . ] And to Prince Henry Thus. Take heed to such Puritans , very Pests in the Church and Common-weal , whom no deserts can oblige , neither Oathes or Promises bind ; breathing nothing but Sedition , and Calumnies , aspiring without measure , railing without reason , and making their own imaginations ( without any warrant of the Word ) the square of their conscience . I protest before the great God , and since I am here as upon my Testament , it is no place for me to lie in , that ye shall never find with any Highlands or Border-thieves , greater ingratitude , and more lies and vile perjuries , than with these Phanatique spirits . And I think every man may say as much that hath but known them . We are at length by Gods grert mercy , delivered from those Evangelical Impostors , and after all our wandrings brought once again , into the Channel . We have our Prince , our Laws , our Freedoms , our Interest lies before us , and certainly we cannot be so mad , as now to dash a second time upon the same Rock : Yet they shall lose nothing for want of offering at it . The Arguments of 1641. are set on foot again : The very same with Cartwright's , ( that Consistorian Patriarch , as Bancroft terms him ) nay , they are advanc'd already beyond pleading of their Cause , to pressing of it , by sawcy Importunities , and peremptory threatnings . From what I have deliver'd , it cannot be deny'd , but their Positions are destructive to all Civil Government : And for their Practices , the story is written in Blood. This might suffice to end the Controversie concerning Reason of State , for certainly a Faction so Principled , cannot with safety to the Publick be incorporated into any Politick Constitution . But I shall add some further Reasons , why by no means they are to be admitted . 1. They 'r a Party never to be gain'd by Obligations ; and this is manifest from their proceedings toward the late King , whose most unhappy Tenderness of Nature rost him his Life . And at this instant , that irreclaimable ingratitude is yet more clear toward his Majesty in beeing : whose unexampled Mercy , so much as lies in them , is converted to his Dishonor , and Destruction . 2. They ground their claim upon the Equity of their Cause , which if allow'd , by the same reason they may serve this King as they did his Father . 3. Their Demands are Endless , as well as Groundless , and it is not prudential to grant any thing to a Faction , that will be satisfi'd with nothing . It is but Giving them a power to Take the rest . 4. They Expostulate , and what they get upon those Terms , they look upon rather as a Submission , than a Concession . The very manner of their Address has a spice of Mutiny in it , and they will hardly make an honest use , of what they compass by dishonest means . 5. It is not advisable to encourage Tumultuary combinations , by Rewarding them . 6. The Dispute is not so much what their Consciences will Bear , as what their Importunities can Obtain : and to feel the Pulse of the Supreme Authority . In fine , It is a contest betwixt the Law and a Faction , and a fair step toward a New Rebellion . So much for Reason of State. Now to the Justice of their pretences . The Quaere is . Whether in Justice or Reason of State the Presbyterian Party should be Rejected and Depressed , or Protected and Incouaged . 'T is one thing what the King may do in point of Justice , and another thing what the Presbyterians may demand upon that score . There is a Justice of Conscience , Honor , and of Prudence . By the First : His Majesty is ty'd up in common with the meanest of his Subjects . That is , if the King find himself in Conscience bound to maintain Episcopacy in the state he found it , ( Legally settled ) he is not free to alter it . In point of Honor : There 's more Liberty , and whatever the King does in that particular , is well done . But his Majesty not having as yet declar'd himself ; what do we know , how far even upon That Point he may concern himself to reject the Presbyterian's Demands ? Partly out of Reverence to his Royal Father ; In part , out of a Princely Strictness to His own Dignity : and partly out of a Generous tenderness toward his Ruin'd Party . First , as to what may seem relating to His Majesty's Father . That which these people urge , is what the late King chose , rather to Die , than Grant : which in His 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is intimated in these words . In these two points , the preservation of establish'd Religion and Laws , I may ( without vanity ) turn the reproach of my sufferings , as to the worlds censure , into the honor of a kind of Martyrdom , as to the testimony of My own conscience , the troublers of My Kingdoms , having nothing to object against me but this , that I prefer Religion and Laws established , before these alterations they propounded . Every word hath its weight , which fell from the Pen of that pious and judicious Prince . Nor can I over-pass a Caution of his learned Father's ; when I consider the sum of their Proposals , which in effect is but a condemnation of the late King , in the bold , needless justification of Themselves . These are the words . As for offences against your own Person and Authority , since the fault concerneth your self , I remit to your own choice to punish or pardon therein as your heart serveth you , and according to the circumstances of the turn , and the quality of the Committer . Here would I also eike another Crime to be unpardonable , if I should not be thought partial : But the Fatherly love I bear you , will make me break the bounds of shame , in opening it unto you . It is then , the false and unreverent writing , or speaking of malicious men against your Parents and Predecessors . And a little further . It is a thing monstrous to see a Man love the Child , and hate the Parents : as on the other part , the infaming and making ●dious of the Parents , is the ready way to bring the Son into contempt . And for conclusion of this point , I may also alledge my own experience : for besides the judgments of God , that with mine eyes I have seen fall upon all them that were chief Traitors to my Parents , I may justly affirm , I never found yet a constant biding by me in all my straits , by any that were of perfect ☞ age in my Parents days , but onely , by such as constantly bode by them ; I mean , specially by them , that served the Queen my Mother ; for so that I discharge my Conscience to you , my Son , in revealing to you the truth , I care not what any Traitor , or Treason-allower , think of it . Thus far his Majesty may find himself concern'd in Honour to his Fathers Ashes , now to his dying Counsels . Take heed of abetting any factions , or applying to any publick Discriminations in matters of Religion , contrary to what is in your judgement , and the Church well setled . I cannot yet learn that lesson , nor I hope ever will you , that it is safe for a King to gratifie any Faction with the perturbation of the Laws , in which is wrapt up the publick Interest , and the good of the Community . What in effect do these people now desire , but that his Majesty would rather take their Counsel , than his Fathers ? In the next Page , the King expresses a more than ordinary earnestness , in these words . My Counsel and Charge to you is , that you seriously consider , the former real or objected miscarriages , which might occasion my troubles , that you may avoid them . Herein , his Majesty is tacitly conjured against them ; it being a most notorious Certainty , That The late King lost both his Crown and Life by Over-granting . The now-pretended cause of the quarrel , was not mentioned till after the War was begun . The colour of raising an Army , being to fetch in Delinquents . After which ( says his Majesty ) among other lesser Innovations , this chiefly was urged : the Abolition of Episcopal , and the Establishment of Presbyterian Government . As to the point of Imperial Honour , wherein his Majesty may possibly concern himself more immediately : It is a high excesse of goodnesse to make his Favours Common , where they are look'd upon so cheap , ( as here ; Witness these daily new Transgressions , since his most Gracious Pardon . ) [ Some men ( sayes the late King ) have that height , as to interpret all fair Condescendings , as Arguments of Feebleness , and glory most in an unflexible stiffness , when they see Others most supple and inclinable to them . ] There remains yet a third Question under this Head of Honour ; that is , How far his Majesties Generosity may extend it self , in Favour , and Protection of those persons that have serv'd him , through all extremities till they have nothing left them beyond the hopes of honourable Epitaphs . These people have Consciences too ; a sense of Duty and Religion . They reverence the Episcopal Order , and That , which through the sites of Bishops , was equally wounded : The Order of Kings . At last , those that subverted the Former , and usurped the Latter , demand ( I think in reparation of their hazards ) a Presbyterian Government . In which particular , our Duty teaches us not to direct our Master : only we take a sober Freedome to answer our Accusers ; and to professe to all the World , that those who fought For King and Bishops , were in our Opinion as honest men at least as they that fought against them . To his Majesties honourable Consideration , I think in this point we may claim a Right . We have suffer'd for , and with his Royal Father , and Himself , and the main Justice of the Cause , betwixt the King and those that serv'd him , is the same thing : so that whoever strikes at Vs , wounds our Soverein . Lastly , There is a Justice of Prudence , wherein a man may frame a thousand reasons against the Encouraging of the Presbyterians ▪ not speculative , and airy Notions , but close , and pinching Reasons , grounded upon weighty Authority , and a never-failing course of long experience . ( Yet not to dictate to his Majesty , to whose Will we submit our Reasonings ) First , if their Desires were Modest , the manner yet of promoting them , is too rude and positive ; they Preach and Print their Grievances , which is the way rather to stir a Faction , than allay a Scruple . Lord , ( sayes Mr. Manton ) give us the Liberty of the Gospel , before we go hence and be no more seen . ] As if Episcopacy , were Paganisme . 'T is dangerous to grant more , to those that take too much . How do I reverence the Divine Spirit of his late Majesty . The great Miscarriage I think is , that popular Clamours and Fury had been allowed the reputation of zeal , and the publick sence ; so that the Study to please some parties , hath indeed injured all . And again ; Take such a course as may either with calmness and charity quite remove the seeming differences and offences by impartiality , or so order affairs in point of power , that you shall not need to fear or flatter any Faction ; for if ever you stand in need of them , or must stand to their courtesie , you are undone : the Serpent will devour the Dove : you may never expect lesse of Loyalty , Justice , or Humanity , than from those who ingage into religious Rebellion : their Interest is always made Gods , under the colours of Piety , ambitious Policies march , not only with greatest security , but applause , as to the populacy ; you may hear from them Jacobs voice , but you shall feel they have Esaus hands . To what I have said , I shall be bold to add a Justice of Proportion ; and thereupon Two Questions . 1. Why should the Presbyterians ; a Small , Irregular party , pretend to give the Law to the Supreme Authority , the established Constitution ; and incomparably the greater Part of the Nation ? 2. Why should those people , that with a more then Barbarous rigour press'd the Covenant : ejecting , sequestring , imprisoning such as refused to take it , and without Mercy or Distinction : — Those that in publick barr'd Non-Covenanters , the Holy Communion in express Terms with Adulterers , Slanderers , and Blasphemers , affirming in the Pulpit , that all the Non-Subscribers to the Covenant were Atheists . — Why should ( I say ) those people that with so unlimited a Tyranny imposed upon the Nation a Rebellious League ; to the Engagement of their Souls in taking it ; their Liberties and Fortunes in refusing : — I say yet once again ; why should those People now at last demand an interest in that Government , which Root and Branch they have laboured to extirpate ? or with what Face can they pretend a Right to an Authority , where but by Mercy they have none to Life ? ( I speak of these late Libellers and their Abettors . ) Let me be understood likewise by Presbyterians , to intend those of the Scottish race , to whom we are beholden for our discipline . That Faction first advanced it self by Popular Tumult and Rebellion . Knox learned the trick on 't at Geneva , and brought it into Scotland ; We had our Agents too , that did as much for us , these Fellows conferr'd Notes , set the Wheel going , and we were never perfectly quiet since . Vpon the whole matter aforegoing ( in the Gentleman 's own words ) we firmly build this Position , That the Presbyterian party , ought not , either in Justice or Reason of State , in any wise to be Encouraged , but rather Rejected ; Neither ought they to be protected in any Inconformity to the Law , but rather totally Depressed . His second Quaere is soon dispatch'd , viz. II. Qu. Whether the Presbyterian party may be Protected and Incouraged , and the Episcopal not Deserted nor Dis-obliged . First , many things are possible , which are neither Just nor Rational ; and therefore it matters not much to allow it the One , if I prove it not to be the Other ▪ Imagine such a Contemperation of Episcopal , and Presbyterian pretences , as might atone their present Disagreements , yet where 's the King ? The Interest that 's principal in the Concern , is not so much as named in the Question . The Quarrel was about the Militia , not Lawn-sleeves , and the Royal Party is to be taken in , as well as the Episcopal . The truth of it is ; This Gentleman does not find it convenient at present to move an utter Extirpation of Bishops : but he proposes That , which granted , would most infallibly produce it . A Consociation forsooth , that for the better credit of the Project , shall be called a Regulated Episcopacy , which in good honest English is next Door to a Tyrannical Presbytery . In fine , The Episcopal Authority is Deserted and Disobliged by the admittance of a Presbyterian Competition . Yet pardon me , I have found a way to reconcile them , Make but these squabling Presbyterians , Bishops , and the work 's done : as Presbyters they are Encouraged ; and ( I dare say ) not disobliged , as Bishops . The plague of it is , there 's neither Justice nor Reason of State for 't , and so we are where we were again . We shall make short work too with his Third Question : for in effect it spells just nothing . III. Qu. Whether the upholding of both parties by a just and equal accommodation be not in it self more desireable , and more agreeable to the state of England , than the absolute exalting of the one party , and the total subversion of the other . I must needs take notice here of two Mistakes , the one in propriety of language , viz. the Vpholding of both parties . One of those Parties is not up , and cannot be upheld . The other , shifts the Question , and states the difference betwixt the EXALTATION of the one , and the SUBVERSION of the other , when all that we desire is but to keep both where they were , without advancing or depressing either . If they have any Title to the Interest they challenge , the same had Cromwel to the Crown . This Question must be better stated , before we think it worth an Answer . One Reflexion now upon the Whole . Here 's Exaltation , — and Subversion ; — but not a syllable of Toleration : and what 's the reason of all this ? They are afraid that would be granted ; and how should they do then to pick a quarrel ? Their way is never to be satisfi'd in Conscience , with what the King can give in Honor , and Reason . ( His Sacred Majesty's Observation ) A grand Maxim with them was always to ask something , which in Reason and Honor must be deny'd , that they might have some colour to refuse all that was in other things granted ; setting Peace at as high a rate as the worst effects of War. ] I have cited this already , but every Line drawn by that Hand deserves to be repeated . To this , there is another end that 's common to the Gang , which is , to draw an odium upon one Party , and a compassion toward the other . And other end than this do I see none at all , in his absoute exalting , — and total subversion . We covet no Change , but desire the contrary . How little soever it may appear to our purpose , 't is very much to theirs , to have the people understand by Absolute Exalting , — the dangerous and intolerable pride of Bishops ; and by their total subversion , on the other side , how sadly the word goes with The Professors of the Gospel . These trivial appearances have more weight , than commonly the world imagines : 'T is not so much ( as Hooker says ) how small the spark is that flyeth up , as how apt things about it are to take fire . Their business is to stir the affections of the common people , which must be done by means and ways , to wise men , in themselves ridiculous , but in their applications of most desperate effect . I speak in earnest , that very Tone they use in Preaching ; that Fellow-feeling-Tone ( as they would have it understood ) is I believe of great use to their business . I have observed the Groans that follow the Ahi-mee's , and beyond doubt those snivelling affectations are not without their benefit . That 't is a forc'd and acted passion , is evident in this ; they almost all of them use the same emphasis . I would not for my Hand let fall a syllable should cast a scandal upon that Holy Ordinance : and with my soul I reverence the grave and pious Clergy . We cannot attribute enough to God ; assume too little to our selves . We cannot be too much afflicted for our sins , nor too sensible of our own unworthiness . Yet I suppose a fit Christian sorrow may be contain'd within such terms as to reach Heaven , without disturbing the Congregation . To come to a Church-dore , and hear an out-cry , as if a man were cutting for the Stone ; and what 's all this , but an afflicted Pastor , mourning for those heavy judgments , that hang over the Land because of Common-prayer : And then the Sisters groan so ruthfully , you 'd swear five hundred women were in Labour . Away with these ostentations of Holiness , — but first away with the Discourse of them . I must confess , the Gentleman hath offered fair , and more I doubt then he can undertake for , were it accepted . What if Six Presbyterians of Seven renounce his Moderation , and say he treated without Commission : where 's his Pacifick Coalition then ? 'T is for a Parity they struggle ; which when they have got , they shall as much contest among themselves to crush again , as ever they did to introduce it . Just thus was the King treated ; He was to rule in Consociation too , by the advise of his Presbyters . And what came on 't ? The Factions interfer'd ; the Change went round the Circle ; and at long-length ; in the place of a most Gracious Prince , up starts a most Tyrannical Protector . And yet I verily think , a way might be found out to work upon these people : Let the King settle their strict Form of Discipline ; fill the Presbyteries with Episcopal Divines , and Elders of his own Party ; I verily believe these very men would be as hot for Bishops . I cannot comprehend the temper of that Sacrilegious Tenderness , that makes men Digest Bishops Lands , and yet forsooth they cannot swallow the Sleeves . Onely this word . Some of the Authors I have quoted for Episcopacy , ( to deal sincerely ) may be as well produc'd against it . For That , let them look to 't , I am Innocent : and my Cause Clearer for it . They found it for their Interest to Engage their Disciples in many Opinions , which for their Honor they would not undertake to defend against their Equals . I Should end here , were I not drawn out beyond my purpose , by a Second Part from the same Hand ; which should not yet divert me from my first Intention , could I but save my self , in letting it absolutely alone . By the Formalities of Title and Connexion , it seems related to the Former part , further then by some passages in the Treatise it appears to be ; whereof some few I am concern'd to Examine , and I shall shorten even that little I intend , as much as Possible . He calls it — A Deliberative Discourse , PROVING , That it is not agreeable to sound Reason to prefer the Contracted and Dividing Interest of one Party , before the General Interest of Protestantism , and of the whole Kingdom of England , in which the Episcopal and Presbyterian Parties may be happily Vnited . We are agreed in all but in the Main , and as to That , I have already shew'd , that in the Subject of our Difference , the Presbyterian Party ( that is , the Kirk-party ) is divided from the Protestant : So that unless it can be made out , by the Judgment of the Reformed Churches , that Prelacy is Antichristian , and that Instituted Ceremonies are Vnlawful ; the Author of this Deliberation overthrows himself by his own Argument , of preferring the General Interest of Protestantism , before the Contracted and Dividing Interest of one Party . We should not take in Discipline within the pale of Religion , but against That Party , which reckons it an essential Mark of the Church . And let them take their Choice , whether it shall be accounted among things Indifferent , or Necessary . If the Former , Obey the Imposition ; if the Latter , let them produce their Authority . The Foundation being mis-lai'd , the Building will hardly stand : Or , which is worse , it falls upon the Builder . He says , His Aim is Unity , and truly so is mine ; But Vnity in such a Composition will never set us right . Two may agree in the same point of Verity ; but then that Truth must for it self be entertain'd , without considering one another . If about any thing Material we differ , flie to the Judge of Truth : The Scriptures , and the Church : If about Less , and Common Matters , go to the Rule of Duty , ( in such Cases ) the setled Law. But I forget my self . It must needs be ( says the Deliberator ) the Wisdom of this State to smother all dividing Factions , and to abolish all partial Interests , that the common Interest of England may be alone exalted . Observation I hope he does not mean , by State , the Keepers of the Liberties ; if the Supreme Authority of this Nation as it is legally vested in the King , the Man has kill'd himself . What are Dividing Factions , but such Parties as start from that common Rule the Law , which every State is bound upon a Principle of Policy , and Honor , to preserve Sacred and Inviolable ? The Law is but the Wisdom treasur'd up of many Ages ; — onely an amass of all those lights , which long Experience , strict Search and Industry ; and many Consultations of great Statesmen , have given to the Discovery of our true Interest . Great Reason is there to approve so great Authority : and as great shame it were not to avow what we our selves have done ; ( The Law being but an Universal Vote ) beside the penalty of Disobedience . How Mad then , how Ignoble , and how Desperate shall we esteem that Faction , that breaks through all these bonds of Reverence , Honor , and Prudential Security , to force that Sanctuary , wherein , as Christians , and as Men , we have reposed , First , the Protection of our Religion ; — and then the Arbitration of our Lives and Fortunes . From such Dividers , Heaven deliver us , first , and then preserve us . All Enterprises ( says our Author very rationally ) that have their beginning in judgment , and not in passion , are directed to a certain end set up as a mark , and that end is not a business at Rovers ; but some particular steady issue of things , certainly or probably apprehended and expected : Wherefore let wise men consider the mark where at they level , and to what issue and state of things their actions tend . Most certain 't is ; without that mark men go they know not whether . First the End ; then , the Way ; is ( I suppose ) the Common Method of all Wise men : and his advice to such , to look before them , might have been spared , they would have don 't without it . Now to his Business ; but first , I 'le clear the way to 't . The Question is , Whether the fomenting of these Discords , ( viz. in matters of Discipline ) do not proceed from a carual design ? And he debates the matter with the Episcopalians . Here is a numerous Party not of the dregs and refuse of the Nation , but of the judicious and serious part thereof : What will they do with them ? and how will they order the matter concerning them ? Would they destroy them ? I solemnly profess , that I abhor to think so by the generality of the Episcopal perswasion : I would disdain to mention such an unreasonable impiety , were it not to shew the inconsiderate and absurd proceedings of an unalterable opposition , as that it cannot drive to any formed end and issue . That Protestants should destroy Protestants , for dissenting in the point of Ceremonies , and sole Jurisdiction of Bishops , is so dreadful a violation of Charity and common Honesty , that it is a most uncharitable and dishonest thing to suppose it of them . What then ? would they bear them down , or keep them under hard conditions ? Shall all persons that cannot yield exact obedience to Ecclesiastical injunctions concerning all the parts of the Liturgy , and Ceremonies , be suspended and deprived as formerly ? Shall Ministers of this judgment be cast and kept out of Ecclesiastical Preferment and Employment ? Shall all private Conferences of Godly Peaceable Christians , for mutual edification , be held unlawful Conventicles ? It hath been thought by wise men to be against the Rules of Government , to hold under a rigid yoke a free people , of such a number and quality , and intermingled in all estates and ranks , and intimately conjoyned with all parts of the Body Politick , that it is almost impossible to exclude their Interest from a considerable share in publick actions . Observation We are so often told of this judicious serious Party , pray let 's allow them to be a Company of very fine Gentlemen , and mind our business . I think he says they are numerous too . So were the Frogs that came into the King's Chamber : and what of that ? In good truth , altogether , it is a very pretty Anagram of Sedition . If it wants any single Circumstance that 's needful to procure a Tumult , I am exceedingly mistaken . Mark it , here 's Number ; Conduct , and Pretence of Right , to Embolden , and to Fix the Multitude . Then , to Provoke , and Heighten them : old Sores are rub'd ; they are minded how they were used so long ago ; and hinted yet of worse behind , if they have not a care betimes . What is all this to say ? but Gentlemen , you remember how it was with you formerly ; if you have a mind to any more of That , so . But things are well enough yet ; there are those will stand by you that know what they have to do , and enow to make their hearts ake . — VVhy it is against all Rule of Government , to put this yoke upon a Free People . — If the Author be within hearing ; he should do well to be his own Expositor . In the mean while , compare we the Gloss with the Text. He speaks now in his own words , which the Reader may find by conferring them with the entire matter of the last Quotation , to be extracted with the strictest justice to his meaning . Here is ( says he ) a numerous Party , of the judicious and serious part of the Nation : what will they ( the Episcopalians ) do with them ? &c. would they destroy them ? &c. I solemnly profess , that I abhor to think so of the generality of the Episcopal perswasion , &c. shall they be suspended , and deprived as formerly ? shall all private conferences of godly , peaceable Christians , for mutual edification , be held unlawful Conventicles ? It hath been thought by wise men to be against the Rules of Government to hold under a rigid yoke a Free People of such a Number , and Quality . — This is cutting of a Man's Throat with a Whetstone . Truly Horace his saying would sound very well from this Gentleman . — Fungor vice Cotis , acutum Reddere quae ferrum valet , exors ipse secundi . My Office is to Whet , not Cut. To tie him up now to his own Philosophy , which is , ( according to his fore-alledg'd Position ) that all Rational Enterprises propose some certain End , unto which end , all wise men conform their mediate Actions . If it be so , ( as we are agreed upon it ) then by that very reason which directs him to chuse the means , are we enabled likewise to guess the end . His End , he says , is Peace ; and in this Treatise he hath chalk'd his way to 't . He 's a wise man , and certainly proceeds in order to the Mark he levels at . Let him be judge by his own Rule . To mind the peevish of old Grievances , and in so doing to transport the honest with a just sense of new indignities ; Is this the way of Peace ? To break a solemn Law ; that Law that saved the Breakers of it ; to abuse the Mercy of the Prince that made it ; and to traduce the Government of his Father , whom they themselves destroyed ; and which is worse , to justifie all this : Is this the way of Peace ? To startle the mad brutish Rabble with dangerous apprehensions ; to lay the justice of their Cause before them , and when they are ripe for mischief , to shew them Men and Arms , — Is this the way of Peace ? — Then let me learn which is the way of Tumult . Shall Protestants destroy Protestants , ( says he ) for dissenting in the point of Ceremonies ? No , but the Law shall destroy Subjects , for attempting to Rule their Governors . Touching their Conventicles , since they fal● in my way , I think of them , as of the Painter'● Bad God that made a Good Devil : I take them to be none of the best Churches , but for ought I know , they may make excellent — I beg ye onely to observe now , the equity o● these good Folks . Is it for the service of Christ , and the encreas● of his Kingdom the Church , that so many abl● Divines should be debarr'd the use of the Lord Talents , that so many laborious Minister should sit still in silence ; that when Christ teacheth us to pray that the Lord would thrust forth Labourers into his Harvest , those Labourers should be thrust out of his Harvest ? Surely this would make a cry in the ears of the Lord of the Harvest . Observation Do none of the Woes in the Gospel belong to this talker of it ? The Service of God went merrily on , in the Thorough Reformation ; did it not ? When not a Minister kept his Living , but to the hazard of his Soul ; and in several places ( where the allowance was small ) neither Sacrament nor Sermon , for divers years together . But in those days , the Covenant kept all in good order . With what a monstrous confidence does this man press a Text , which the whole Nation knows is clear against him ! And all in Scripture-phrase forsooth : Ne sine formâ tantum scelus fiat , for the honour of the exploit . These people use Religion , as your London-Cooks do their pickled Barbaries : they garnish with it . It serves for every thing : I know not how it is , but they do 't , because they find the women like it . When the Episcopal , and loyal Clergy , their Wives , Children , and Families , were swept entirely away by th●t SCOTCH PLAGVE the COVENANT ; That made no cry sure in the ears of the Lord of the Harvest . Let the great Great Judge of all the World determine it . If the neglect of brotherly Pacification hold on , and the Hierarchie resolve upon their own advancement to the highest pitch , one may well conclude , that they make a full reckoning to wear out the Presbyterians , and to swallow up their Interest , conceiving they are able to effect it by degrees ; and that greater changes than these have been wrought without much ado . Let but the meanest Soul alive now judge of these mens Consciences . ( I speak of those that tumult since the Act of Pardon ) As deep a forfeiture as ever was made by mortals , the King hath remitted to them . They have cost the Nation more then they have left it worth , beside the blood , the Grief , and Desolation they have brought upon it . This notwithstanding , they have at this Instant the self same Interest they ever had , as to Freedome and Safety , and otherwise more : They keep what they got ; beg , and get more ; and are not yet content unlesse they Govern too . But this is but another Alarm , as who should say ; Look to your selves my Masters ; lose not an Inch , for if you do , they 'l do your Business by degrees , By and by , among other concurring advantages , to the great Changes Queen Elizabeth wrought in Religion ; he reckons this for one . Popery ( sayes he ) being in substance a Religion con●rary to what was publickly professed , had no advantage for encrease by publick Preaching , or Books publickly allowed . Observation Nothing more certain then that the Freedome of the Press and Pulpit , is sufficient to embroyl the best ordered Government in the World. All Governments have their Disorders and their Malecontents : The one makes use of the Other , and here 's the ground of all Rebellions . Some Real faults are first found and laid open to the People , which , if in matter of popular Freedome , or Religion ; so much the stronger is the Impression ; the vulgar being natural●y stubborn ; and Superstitious . Bring it to this , a very little Industry carries it on at pleasure . They shall believe Impossibilities , Act eagerly , they know not what , nor why ; ●nd while they reach at Liberty , grasp their own Fetters . Their unhappiness is , they can ●etter Phansy a Government without any ●aults , then brook one that hath some . Add ●ut to this distemper , Licentious Pamphlets , ●nd seditious Sermons , the World shall never ●eep that people quiet . Wherefore since on all hands it is agreed , that Printing , and Preaching in opposition to a ●ublick establishment , are of so dangerous con●equence , by the force of the Gentlemans ●wn Rule we ought to hear no more of their Discipline from the Press or Pulpit . Observe ●is next coherence . There are now in England thousands of Ministers dissatisfied in the Hierarchy and Ceremonies , who are all competently and many of them eminently learned . They are not generally of light spirits , but steddy and well resolved , and tenderly affected touching their spiritual Liberties . Observation Take notice first , how many , and how resolute they are . That is , take notice again for we have had it exceeding often . His Resolute thousands make me think of the Tribe● repairing to David . But they are dissatisfied he sayes : it may be 't is because they are no● Bishops : Yet truly if they be so well resolved methinks they should not be dissatisfi'd with tha● they cannot help . I 'll ask but two Questions and I have done . 1. Are any of those Tender-conscienc'● thousandsthat are so tenderly affected toward spiritual Liberties , those Presbyterians that denye● the King the freedome of his own Chaplains ? 2. Had any of these eminently learned thousands a hand in the Assemblies Letter to th● Reformed Churches of France , the Low-Countries , &c. — ( as great a Schism in Learnin● as the other was in Religion ) He comes now t● the point indeed . Commonly ( sayes he ) those people who try all Doctrines by Scripture , and are swaye more by its Authority than by the Ordinanc● and Customes of men , do much hesitate and stagger concerning the sole Jurisdiction of Bishops , the pomp of the Hierarchy , and sacred mystical Ceremonies of humane Institution . And therefore let the Episcopal Party never look to be rid of these difficulties , till they remove the matters in Question , whereat a knowing people are always ready to stumble . Go to then , since the Gentleman will have it so , grant for dispatch the thing he presses , to wit , — that they do Hesitate , and Stagger . 'T is hard , that when upon a private search , the Question hangs in Ballance , the casting in the Authority of the Church , and the great weight of Christian Charity , should not be yet enough to turn the Scale . He that doubts , Sins , will not excuse that man , who because he thinks he stands , refuses to take heed of falling . But let him doubt , nay more , let him resolve ; all is but for himself still , not for me . When he comes once to muster up his Thousands , and talk of parties , his plea of Conscience is gone : and doublesse these Violent and publick sticklers for the Scrupulous , ( that is in such and such particulars ) are the greatest enemies they have . It casts a Scandal upon the very cause of Conscience , when those who evidently want it in themselves , plead for it in others . Upon this Subject , exceedingly well says Mr. Lloyd in a late Treatise of Primitive Episcopacy , Pag. 80. It becomes not good men to c●nsure us for using th●s● Rights and Ceremonies , which we are perswaded not to be prohibited by Gods Law , and both they and we do surely know to be commanded to be used by mans Law duly made , which is Gods Ordinance , to which we must be subject for Conscience sake . And a little after — If any will attempt to be Authors of Combinations , to extort by shew of multitudes and by tumults , the alteration or abrogation of any part of the established Laws , Civil or Ecclesiastical , they will thereby evidently manifest themselves to be but meer pretenders to a tender Conscience , and power of Godlinesse ; for they that labour to extort a part , if they prevail , must have the whole in their power . And can they that attempt so great Robbery , love God , and the Power of Godlinesse ? By this cursed fruit , we know these to be most vile-Hypocrites . Now to our Adversary . The Gentleman desires to clear the Presbyterians of being no Phanaticks : and we 'll give him the hearing . It is said that the Presbyterians promoted the Kings Return , not out of good will to His Majesty , or a love of Order , and Vnity , but out of fear of being destroy'd by the Phanaticks . ] To this I shall say little but that I believe there was more in 't than so . Let him argue upon it . The pretended reason of their insincerity seems to me to add much to their reputation in that behalf . For if the Phanaticks would destroy them , it is manifest that they are none of them . Phanaticks would not destroy themselves willingly . The several various Sects will wrangle with each other in verbal contests ; but they never knowingly plotted or banded against each other upon the account of their different Opinions , but did all unite in one common Principle of pretended Liberty of Conscience , and in one common cause of Vniversal Toleration . A pleasant Reasoning . A man would think Christianity as strong a tye as Phanaticisme , and yet we see Christians destroy one another . But come to the point . What 's more familiar then for a couple of Curs to hunt the same Hare , and when they have catch'd her , worry one another for the Quarry ? I 'll tell this Gentleman a thing now , shall make him take me for a Conjurer . I 'll tell him the true reason why those Presbyterians help'd His Majesty in , that are not quiet now they have him . Not for feare of the Phanatiques : he made that Objection himself for ought I know ; but Here ' t is . ( Still saving to my self the freedome of Interpreting my own words . ) I speak only of those Presbyterians that since His Maiesties happy Return , are yet fomenting of new Troubles . The Presbyterian Faction have been ever constant to the rule and method of doing their own Businesse in the Kings name ; and this went far with the simple , and well meaning people ; but let not any man believe this Interest did their work . The ruin of His blessed Majesty , was that unhappy Agreement with the Covenanters in 1639. after so horrid an expence of Time and Mony , as gave the greatest benefit imaginable to their Interest , and an equal disadvantage to his own . The King by his expence being grown poor and they strong by the Delay , was more and more oppressed , till at the last the Field was clear'd : He and His Party in appearance lost . What did these great Pretenders then for the good of King and Church , but share the booty , and exercise a Power themselves ten thousand times more Turkish then ever they called that they had abolished ? what hindered then the Settlement of this Nation upon its legal Basis , ( as they phrase it ) if the good people had but had a mind to it ? Who kept the King from his Parliament ? — or was he ever nam'd but with relation to the Losse of Right as well of Power . Well , but at last , these people take their turns too , and then the King 's a Gracious Prince again . These Factions are of Kin to Montaignes Family , where the Son beats the Father from generation to generation . Now we come near our purpose . Look back into the Scotch defeat in 1648. Not any thing more clear sure , then that the Presbyterian party , would they but frankly have closed with the Kings Tryed Friends in that Engagement ; without a Miracle , they must have carried it . Those Few they had , did well nigh all that was considerable in the Action . See afterward , in 50 , and 51. how dirtily upon this very accompt , the Presbyterian crew treated his Majesty : and look quite through their Interregnum ; they have observ'd the same indisposition of uniting with the Kings Party , but still shaking the Head , with an Alass poor Gentleman , at the mention of our persecuted Soveraign . Not to insist upon English Particulars ; They never would joyn with Vs to help his Majesty , we never refused with them . Now comes the Mysterie of the Reserve . Say they , If we can order Matters so as to get the King's Person in the head of us , and keep out his Party , Their hands are ty'd by a Principle of Duty ; Our Power is enlarged upon an Interest of favour , and we can play our Game at pleasure . That is ; Wee 'l not forget to mind him of his RESTORERS , and now and then a Whisper , how DEBAUCHD the Gentry's grown ; how unfit this man is for Trust , that for Temper , and a Third for Conduct . We may then propose the naming of Officers , and wee 'r to blame if we forget our selves . By these Degrees , and wayes , Time , and a little Patience will wear them out ; or if it were nothing else , the very Poverty we have reduced them to , would make them ●oon Contemptible . Whereas should we but offer once a General agreement with that Party , our Design 's spoyl'd , for they 'll be more than we shall well know how to master . That must not be . Our Interest lyes to take in just so many , as when they have done our Work , we may be able to turn out again . So much for That . This is the very Soul of the rigid Presbyterians . Poor Worms , Where is our Charity and Regard ( they crye ) to publick tranquillitie , if we reject the sure and only means of Concord ? ] Observation He should have rather said , where is our Providence , if we admit so sure an Introduction to Confusion ? To comply with one Importunity of this nature , is to Authorize , and encourage more ; and to please all , is totally Impossible . The Canons stick in his Stomach notably , they force too much , and bring in Poperie [ Shall not the Laity be allow'd to search the Scriptures , nor try the Doctrines delivered , but acquiesce in what their Teachers say without the Exercise of their own reasoning , or judgment of Discretion ? ] Observation Yes , let them search the Scriptures , as their Teachers may the Lawes , yet by their Leave , the Church and Bench must interpret them . What difference is there betwixt King James his Phanatiques , and King Charles his ; save that they ascribe one and the same Effect to several Causes . Both claiming equal Certainty , the One , from his Judgement of Discretion : the Other , from Divine Impulse ? What work shall we have when every Taylour shall with his Judgement of Discretion cut out his own Discipline , and set it up for a Fashion : When these men and their Bibles are alone together ( as Hooker sayes ) what Phrensies do they not call directions of the Spirit ? He comes now to the Politicks . It is a chief point of knowledge in those whose work it is to mould and manage a Nation according to any order of things , to understand what is the temper of the people , what Principles possess and govern them , or considerable Parties of them , and to what passe things are already brought among them . Observation The more a Prince considers this , the lesse will he afford a Scotized English Presbyterian . By Temper he 's Ambitious ; and Vnthankful ; ever Craving ; and never Full : Govern'd by Principles Insociable , and Cruel . He rates his Party , his Piety , and his Kindnesse , twenty times greater then they are , and rather than confesse that he is out in his Reckoning , he shall face any other man down that one on the wrong side of a Cipher is 1000 Lastly , in Considering to what passe things are brought among them , he will bethink himself likewise how they came to be so . A State may probably root out such Opinions as it conceives to be heterodox and inconvenient , by using great severity in the beginning , when the Opinions are but newly sowed in mens minds , and the People are of such a nature , as to abhor dangers , and aim to live securely , and when the Nation in generall is devoted to the antient custom of their Fore-fathers . But the same course may not be taken when the Opinions have been deeply rooted and far spread by long continuance , in a Nation of a free spirit , and zealous , and the generality of those , that in a Law-sense are called Cives , do not detest them . Truly in this Case , if Heterodox Opinions cannot be rooted out , the Men that publiquely maintain them , must : and the rather , if they be free , and zealous : for there 's the more danger in their further Progresse . Especially if such Opinions prescribe from the successe of Treason . For There , even in matters of themselves very Allowable , I would not leave the least marque of an approbation . It gives too great an honour to Rebellion . Provided alwayes that I act at Liberty , and free from Pre-ingagements . Where there is such a Real Cause of Fear , as is here shadow'd to us ; That Prince that loves his Empires or his Honour , must struggle with it betimes : Safety , or Pleasure , such a people perhaps will be content to allow in exchange for Soveraignty : But for the rest , that Prince is lost that puts himself on the Asking side . It never fayles , this Rule : when Subjects earnestly presse for more than they ought , they ayme at more yet than they aske . They are already past their Duty , and short of their Ambition . In such a Case as This , Rigour is the onely Remedy : great Aptnesse to forgive is entertain'd with greater Pronesse to offend . Let it be thought upon ; if any Danger , where it lyes : Not in the bare Conceit of Phancy , or Dislike , for , or against the Matter in Dispute , but in the means that give Form , growth , and strength to those unquiet Motions ; and that assemble those Loose scatter'd Sparkes into one Flame . These Instruments are mercenary Pulpit-men , and Scriblers ; 't is but removing them , and the Danger 's over . Least he should seem to want a Colour for these Freedomes , he tells us , that [ the present Age being more discerning , all sorts affect a greater Liberty of Judgement and Discourse , than hath been used in Former times . ] This we observ'd , but did not till now impute it to Discretion . Suppose they should grow more and more Discerning , and their Desires of Liberty grow too ; would not these People soon grow Wise enough to Govern , that are already grown too good to Obey ? 'T is dangerous trusting of them ; yet he assures us otherwise . This Kingdom , after the removing of foundations , is by a marvellous turn re-establish'd upon its antient basis . And verily that which hath wrought the change will settle it ; that which hath brought such things to pass , will keep them where they are , if we do not overlook and sleight it : And what was it , but the consent of the universality , the Vote of all England ? Observation If all that acted toward this late and blessed Change meant to Fix here : this needless , ill-timed , and dividing Controversie , concerning Ceremonies , would have been spared : and those which move the Question with such earnestness ; at their Prayers , rather than these Expostulations . 'T is an ill Age when Theeves arraign the Law. That sort of men which ruin'd us , proposes now that very Method , by which we were destroyed , to settle us , inviting the distemper'd people by this Overture , to take their Poysoners for their Physicians . 'T is very true , that ( under Providence ) It was the Common Vote , and stirring of the Nation , restored the King , and the Law : and shall we now restrain that Universal Comfort to the particular Advantage of that single Party , that first invaded them ? How great a blemish were it to the Honor , and wisdom of the Nation , after so long , and hard a Tugg , to throw away the sum of the Contest : as if we had wrangled all this while for Shadows ! But to explain my self . They that think matter of Ceremony to be the True reason of the Difference on either side , mistake themselves . It is the Law it self , which is assaulted by the One Party , and defended by the Other , in the Particular of Ceremony : and it is the King himself that is affronted in the Indignities they cast upon Bishops . To leave the matter clear : There is a Faction which would over-throw the Law , and set up themselves above it ; and These Contrivers put the People upon Cavilling for Ceremonies . They innocently , under a mistake of Conscience , advance an Interest of Usurpation , taking that to be onely a Dispute about the Lawfulness of the Practise , which rationally pinches upon the validity of the Power . It ends in this . Grant once , that a Popular Vote may over-rule a Stated Law , ( though but to the value of a Hair ) the vertue of that reason extends to our Freedoms , Lives , and Fortunes , which by the same Rule they may take away as well as Ceremonies . And ( as the case stands ) Kings as well as Bishops . But [ seeing this great Revolution hath not happened by the prevailing force of one Party , but by the unstrained motion of all England : what reason is there , that one Party should thrust the other out of its due place of rest ; upon the common Foundation ? No reason in the world . The Law is our common resting place : the main Foundation upon which we are all to Bottom . The Law is an impartial Judge , let That determine which place belongs to Bishops , which to Presbyters ; what Ceremonies are Lawful , and which not . This is a short and a sure way , worth forty of his Coalition . Having pressed union hitherto , he proceeds now to remove certain impediments ; One whereof is an erroneous judgment touching the times foregoing the late Wars . Observation In truth 't is pity the people are no better Instructed . Then let them know from me , those very principles these folks contend for , were brought by Knox about 1558. from Geneva into Scotland , from thence they were transmitted into England , since which time , the Abettors of them in both Nations , have never ceased by Leagues , Tumults , Rebellions , and Vsurpations , to embroile the publick Peace , and affront the Supreme Authority . They have formally proceeded to the Deposing of Princes , the exercise of an absolute Authority over the Subject : the abrogation of Laws , the Imposition of Taxes ; and , in fine , to all extremities of Rigour , as well in matters of Civil Liberty , as of Conscience . He that desires a Presbytery , let him but read Presbyter , for King , in the first Book of Samuel , and the eighth Chapter , and he shall there find what he is reasonably to expect . These were the pranks foregoing the late Wars : and such as these will be again , if people be not the wiser . But our Camerade will be none of the Party sure : For , I abhor ( says he ) to take upon me the defence of our late distracted times : the distempers thereof I would not in any wise palliate . ] Is the wind in that dore ? Now do I feel by his Pulse , that Crofton's laid by the heels . He hath forgot , that the War was between the King , and both Houses of Parliament . And that the Presbyterian Party in England never engaged under a less Authority than that of both Houses of Parliament . ] And that Presbyterians have never disclaimed , or abandon'd their lawful Prince . ] It may be he means , that he will not justifie the Distempers of the other side . But why do we contest ? since he tells us , that — It is the part of weak and selfish minds to contract Religion to certain modes and forms which stand not by divine Right , but by the wills of men , and which are of little efficacy , and very disputable , and if supposed lawful , ought to be governed by the Rule of Charity . Observation I would fain know which is more tolerable ; for the Church to impose upon the People , or the People upon the Church ? For the People on the one side to exempt all , or for the Church on the other side to bind all . Order it self is of Divine appointment ; but the manner of Ordering ( save where God himself hath preimposed ) is left to Humane liking and Discretion . To think ( says he ) that none is a good Christian , a sound Protestant , a fit Minister , that cannot subscribe to such Modes , and Forms , proceeds from a narrow , and ignoble judgment . He may be a fit Teacher for Geneva , that cannot subscribe to the Form of England , and a fit Minister for England , that cannot conform to the practise of Geneva ; they may be both good Christians too , and sound Protestants ; yet neither of them fit in transposition . 'T is one thing to be qualifi'd for the Ministerial Function , and another thing to be fit for such or such a Constitution . 'T is true , he Officiates as a Minister : but thus , — or so — as a Subject , and that 's the real ground of their exception . They do not willingly admit the King's Authority in matters of the Church : and that , which effectually is but their own Ambition , they obtrude upon the world , as a high point of Tenderness to the people . There are beyond all doubt , weak Consciences , fit objects for indulgence : but the less pardonable are their Mis-leaders , whose business 't is for their own ends to engage the simple multitude in painful , and inextricable scruples . Let them Preach down-right Treason , stir up the Rabble to Tumult , and Sedition : if they chance to be caught and question'd for it : see with what softness they treat their Fellows , and with what supercilious gravity their Superiors . When some degree of forwardness breaks forth , it is encountred with that severity which hazards the undoing of the weak part , that should and might be healed . ] And again , to the same effect , ( concerning Crofton's Commitment , I imagine ) [ But suppose that some of this way were guilty of some provoking forwardness , should grave Patriots and wise Counsellors thereupon destroy the weak part , or rather heal it ? A prudent Father is not so provoked by the stubbornness of a Child , as to cast him out , and make him desperate while there is yet hope concerning him . It is meet indeed for Princes to express their just indignation , when Subjects presuming on their Clemency do not contain themselves within their duty ; and the seasonable expression of such disdain , wisely managed , is of great force in Government : nevertheless if it get the mastery , it is exceeding perilous . It was the Counsel of Indignation that proceeded from Rehoboam 's young Counsellors . ] What this Language deserves both from the King and his Counsel , let those that have authority to punish , Judge . When Governors resent the non-compliances of a Party , their best remedy is to remove the occasions , when it may be done without crossing the Interests of State , or Maxims of Government . Observation That is , if the People will not yield to the Prince , the Prince should do well to yield to the People . A most excellent way for a King that hath to do with Presbyterians : where he shall be sure never to want subject for his Humility , nor ever to get thanks for his Labour . Where there are many sufferers upon a Religious account , whether in truth or pretence , there will be a kind of glory in suffering , and sooner or later it may turn to the Rulers detriment . Observation There will not be many Sufferers , where there are not many Offenders ; and there will not be many Offenders , where an early severity is used . But however , if any hazzard be , he that prints it , dictates , encourages , and promotes it , and deserves to suffer with the foremost . But the Gentleman begins now to talk like a Christian. I detest ( says he ) and abhor the Tumults , and Insurrections of the People , and the resisting of the Soveraign Power . ] Observation This is honestly said yet : But hold a little . What is that Soveraign Power , which he abhorrs should be resisted by the Tumults of the People ? Even the Two Houses in co-ordination with the King. A little further , [ I am perswaded ( says he ) that the Generality of the Presbyterian denomination would endure extremities , before they would revenge or defend themselves by unlawful means , as rebelling against their Lawful Soveraign . Observation This we shall understand too by confronting it , and find it onely the old Fallacy , a little better colour'd . This part ( says he ) of the Supreme Power ( meaning the two Houses ) is indeed capable of doing wrong , yet how it might be guilty of Rebellion , is more difficult to conceive . ] Now if the Two Houses cannot Rebel , as being part of the Supreme Power ; ( by his Argument ) neither can the Presbyterians , in compliance with that Party : So that by this mis-placing of the Supreme Authority , whatever hath been acted by vertue of any Commission from the Two Houses , may be done over again , and no Rebellion . By this device , he onely disavows Rebellion so far as This , or That , is not Rebellion according to his Proposition , although the Law determine otherwise . This is no more then what was ever maintained , even by those that stood themselves upon the highest terms of Disobedience . Did ever any man say , This is Rebellion , and I 'll justifie it ? Nay , I should be glad to hear any of them say , This was Rebellion , and I 'm sorry for it . [ But it is evident , that the Presbyterians love the King , and Kingly Government , and account themselves happy in his Majesty's Clemency , allowing them a just and inoffensive Liberty in certain matters of Conscience . ] Observation The Presbyterians may find many things to thank his Majesty for : but I would they could hit upon a handsomer manner of doing it ; and not perpetually to be craving more , when they should be doing him service for what they have receiv'd already . They love the King , they say , but then their Love is Conditional , they must have something for it . Would they expose themselves for twenty years together , to Gaols and Gibbets , all sorts of Hazzards and Misfortunes for their Prince , and at the last sit down and sterve contentedly , out of a sense of honorable Loyalty ? That Subject is not right , who hath not brought his mind up to this Frame ; however unhappy he may think himself in such encounters as put him to the Trial of his utmost Virtue . Wise men inform us , that a Prince by adhereing to one Faction , may in time lift it up above his own Imperial Interest , which will be forced to give way to it as the lesser to the greater . And the prime Leaders of the potent Faction will sway more than the Prince himself . They will become arrogant , unthankful , and boundless in their ambitious designs . This is a good Rule , but ill apply'd ; unless return'd upon himself . I hope he will not call That Party a Faction , which submits all its Actions to the clear Letter of the Law ; and he will hardly prove That to be none , which crosses This. If so , let Common Reason judge betwixt us . There is a saying , which by many hath been taken up for a Proverb , No Bishop , no King. I do not well understand the rise of this saying , and therefore dare not speak in derogation of their Judgements who were the Authors of it . But upon the matter it self , I crave to make this modest Animadversion . And first it is some degrading to the transcendent Interest of Soveraignty , to affix unto it a necessity of any one partial interest for its support : for Independency and Self-subsistence , without leaning upon any Party , is a Prince his strength and glory . Also it makes that Party over-confident , and its opposite too despondent . Such sayings as import a Princes necessary dependence on any particular Party , may in the mouthes of Subjects be too presumptuous , and in the mouth of a Prince too unwary . If we are not yet instructed in the Weight and Reason of that saying , — NO BISHOP , NO KING ; sure we are past Learning any thing . We found the sad truth of this Judgment , in the event of the late War ; but that 's no Rule . By No Bishop no King , is not intended that Bishops are the props of Royalty , nor do the Episcopalians understand it so : but that both one and the other are Objects of the same Fury , onely the Church goes First : so that without presumption , a Subject may affirm it ; and without loss of Honor , a Prince may grant it . I might draw Arguments from the Agreement of their Original , the likeness of their Constitution , the Principles by which they are supported , and that they lye exposed to the same Enemies , and the same method of Destruction . But this would seem to imply a more Inseverable Interest then I aim at ; and raise the Clergy above the proper State and Orb of Subjects . My meaning is more clear and open . All Popular Factions take the Church in their way to the State ; and I am to seek where ever any Prince quitted Episcopacy , and saved Himself . That is , his Royal Dignity ; for the empty name of King , is but the Carkass of Majesty . It is with the unruly Populacy , as it is with raging Tides , they press where the Bank is weakest , and in an instant over-run all . If they had either Modesty , or Conscience , they would not force so far : if they have neither , will they stop There ? what did the late King Grant ; or rather , what Deny ? till by their mean Abuse of his unlimited Concessions , he lost his Crown , and Life ? Yet what assurance Words could give him , he wanted not : Words wrapt up in the most tender and Religious Forms imaginable . But what are Words where a Crown lyes at stake ? In fine , Treason 's a Canker ; and where it seizes , that Prince must early cut off the Infected part , if he would save the Sound . The true Church lies in the middle between two extremes , Formalists , and Fanaticks . They are of circumspect and regular walking , no way forward in attempting or desiring alterations in a Civil State. A Prince doth hold them in obedience under a double bond . For they know they must needs be subject not only for wrath , but for Conscience sake . Indeed we will not conceal , that in lawfull wayes they assert that Liberty which is setled by the known Laws and Fundamental Constitutions , the maintaining whereof is the Prince's as much as the Peoples safety . If to be no way Forward in promoting Changes in the Civil State , be a marque of the Church : The Presbyterians are out of the Pale . It 's truth , they are , it seems , Assertors of Lawfull Liberty , in Lawfull waies ; but how is that I pray'e ? Did they not tell us this when their Swords were at our Throats , when it was Death to assist the King , when they were forc'd to flye to the Equitable sense of the Law , and quit the Literal , and fetch their Arguments , from Inspiration , because they had none in Reason . I shall here put an End to this Discourse , which is become much longer already than I meant it , by reason of his Addition . Crofton's ill Fortune I find hath made him wary , but not humble ; for he presses the same Things in substance still , though in somewhat a differing manner of Respect , and seeming Candour . The good Words he gives , belong to those Persons which he shall vouchsafe to Call serious , and to think worthy of them ; and the Government is to be moulded , and disposed of as he pleases . Finally , he pretends to ayme at a Fair , and Christian Accord , and yet proceeds in a direct method of Dividing : by sharp , and scandalous Reflections upon the Kings Party . To say no more , his Reasonings are Dishonourable to the memory of the Late King ; Seditious , and Provoking to the People ; Bold , and Imposing in themselves ; Repugnant to the established Law , and to the main scope of the General Pardon . How out of all these ill Ingredients should be composed a National , and healing balsome , I shall now give the Reader leisure to consider . Male imperatur , ubi regit Vulgus Duces . FINIS . A Catalogue of some Books Printed for Henry Brome , at the Gun in Ivy-lane . THe Alliance of Divine Offices , exhibiting all the Lyturgies of the Church of England since the Reformation , by Hamon L'Estrange Esq in fol. The Souls Conflict , being eight Sermons preach'd at Oxford , and so much recommended by Dr. Hewit , in 8. Dr. Browns Sepulchrall Urns and Garden of Cyrus . in 8. Two Essayes of Love and Marriage in 12. The Royal Exchange , A Comedy in 4. by R. Brome . Five new Playes ▪ by R. Brome , never before printed , in 8. 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The late Kings Counsels . 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 . Page 236. Ib. p. 239. Ib. p. 240. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 . pag. 62. Ibid. pag. 169. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 . Page 182. Ib. p. 236. The late Kings Declaration concerning Scotland . pag. 404. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 . pag. 170. Observation . page 14. The best Rule of Interest is the Law. Page 36. Observation . Page 33. Page 36. The Presbyterian Method of making Peace . Page 38. Page 39. Observation . Page 42. Page 42. 1 Chr. 12. Page 43. Observation . page 54. Ibid. Observation . The Presbyterians do their own business in the Kings name . Page 60. Page 61. Page 62. Page 63. Observ. Page 65 Observation . Page 66. Page 67. Observation . Page 73. Page 74. Interest of England . Part 1. Page 13. Part 1. Page 49. Ibid. 53. page 75. pag. 75. Observation . Page 78. Page 81. Page 83. Page 84. page 98. Interest of England . Page 49 , Ibid. 98. Page 49. Interest of England . Page 101. pag. 104. Observation . pag. 106. Observation . Page 116. Observation .