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Keying and markup guidelines are available at the Text Creation Partnership web site . eng Treaty of Breda (1667) Great Britain -- Politics and government -- 1660-1714. 2003-01 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2003-02 SPi Global Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2003-04 John Latta Sampled and proofread 2003-04 John Latta Text and markup reviewed and edited 2003-06 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion A Letter to Monsieur Van. B — de M — at Amsterdam , written Anno. 1676. Dear Sir , THe great Conclusion Solomon made from all those wise Reflections of his , upon things under the Sun is , fear God and keep his Commandments , for this is the whole of Man , his whole business and his whole Excellency , and therefore you and I shall always agree , that our first and great Duty is the Love and Service of our great Lord : and the second is like unto it , the Love and Service of our Country , but as the circumstances of our times are , these things can hardly be separated or distinguished , but are included one in the other , so that he which serves his Country must needs at the same time serve God. Now the present Mischiefs that are upon our Country , do not ( as to their second Causes ) arise meerly out of the common spring of boundless and restless ambition , but an implacable malice to the Protestant Interest , hath had a principal hand in the Effects Europe is now groaning under , and indeed the danger is common to us both , and doth not less threaten England then Holland , though more remotely . For the French King , in growing to so great a Naval strength , may be reasonably apprehended to have his Eye upon England , when he shall have subjugated the Spanish Netherlands , which it may be he meant when he said upon some occasion , that hereafter he would bring his Men to a place where there were neither Gates nor Bars ; success makes Men bold as well against God , as their Enemies , and the Spirits of the Greatest and Wisest Men are not always so guarded , but that in their Gayeties their future Intentions drop out of their Mouthes , and Wicked Men do not only express their Natures in their Wicked sayings , by which Men may take warning of them , but they live after their Deaths in those sayings . But I will at this time discourse to you a little more particularly . There are but two very strong Kingdoms in Europe , France and England , and the Reason of their strength is , that they are great in Territories , and of one piece and compacted , in respect of which Europe may be considered in three Parts , France , England , and the Princes and States confederated against France , which being a strength made up of many pieces and different Interests , will always be found too weak to be opposed against the Uniform Force of one great Kingdom , for which reason the League will come naturally so dissolve it self , and fall in pieces , unless England cast the Ballance , whose Interest it is so to do , and that roundly ; for Neutrality in this Case is both foolish and dangerous , as being against all Reason of State , and in such case , he that obligeth none , disobligeth all , and the Conqueror will be sure to pursue his revenge against the Rival Prince . I know there are three Characters in Hystory ascribed to the French , the first was given to the Gauls their Predecessors by Iulius Caesar , that in the beginning of a Fight they were more than Men and afterward less then Women , and however it be true the present French inherit the same Genius , yet by discipline which hath a wonderful force in all things , we see they have brought even their Infantry for the most part to Fight well , so that by their Actions they have justly acquired the Reputation of a very War like Nation . The second Character is that they are a People , Light , Inconstant and Faithless . 3. That they are of an aspiring Genius , which is so much the more dangerous to Europe , as the object they have ●●●t upon is great , and that is no less than to Erect an Universal Monarchy in Europe , a thing that can never be brought to pass ; yet for all the Observation we make of other Men , we dayly commit the same Errors , to this we may add , that the Course of the present French King is full of Rapid Violence and high Ambition , and Ambition will make Men wade through a World of Blood in the pursuit of vain ends ; yet this I must say , that if two or three such Kings should immediatly succeed one another in France ; they would in Reason swallow Europe , if at the same time one weak and Insufficient Prince should succeed another in England ; but the Ballance of the World is kept up , not only by strong Nations joyning with the weaker against stronger than they , but by an Interchangeable distribution in succession of strong and weak Princes in the same Kingdome , through the promiscuous dispensation of Divine Providence , which is irresistable , for he must leave all his Work to the Man that shall be after him , and who knows whether he shall be a Wise Man or a Fool , what a Wise Man gets a Fool looses . Now on the other side , our Country-men , who are of a middle Genius between the French and your Country-men , are as warlike as any , but grave , plain , and honest . I know that our Country-men will be always ready to say , that England is now as strong as ever it was , and that we have always been an overmatch to France , we have made Two Conquests of France , one in the time of Edward the 3d. and another in the time of H. the 5 th , but I answer , the strength of a Kingdom is either Proper or Comparative , Proper , respecting their selves , or Comparative , respecting their Neighbors . Now if it should be granted , ( which is not true ) that England is now as strong as in former times , yet if France ( which is true ) be three times as strong as they were formerly , than England must needs be three times weaker Comparatively ; England being so far from holding proportion to France in its growth , that is is much weaker now than it was 20 Years ago . And this among other things may shew you the weakness of our Councils , in sitting still while the French make themselves Masters of the Spanish Netherlands , and then as to its proper strength we must come to distinguish , for he that does not distinguish well can never Judge well ; I say then the People are strong but the Government is weak , from whence this Consequence may be drawn , that a People may be weak under one form of Administration , and strong under another , to prove which , there will need no other Instance then the Regiment of these three last Kings , and that of the Parliament interposed in the middle of them , but this will more clearly appear to you when we come to discourse of the Government it self . There is no Kingdome in Story that I remember , in and about which so much Blood hath been shed as England , except Sicily , and the manner of the English hath always been to Fight in small Armies , without regarding the Number of their Enemies , who were sometimes ( as in the first Conquest of France abovenamed ) above six to one ; and yet the English have not oftner been brought to contend against Forreign Force , then they have carried away the Victory , if not in every Battle , yet in the Issue of the War. Therefore when Matchiavil labors to overthrow the Common Doctrine in the Politicks , that Money is the Sinews of War , which he says is not true ; I think it is true as to England , as well as in the Roman Common-wealth , but in Holland where you have a small Territory , and your Foundation is Trade , Money , and Industry ; which produceth no Martial Genius in the Natives , nor permits leasure , and where your Armies consist of Mercenaries , which will ever be found much weaker than the Native Militia , there Money may be the Sinews of War. The Union of England and Scotland is a mighty Accession of strength to England , for besides that Scotland was always a dangerous Back-door to England , that mischief is not only removed , but such a Member added , as by reason of Vicinity naturally compounds one entire Body of a great Kingdom ; and this strength would better have appeared if it had at any time since the Union , fallen under a Prince of a Martial Genius , as in time to come it will fall under a Vigorous Administration . But to make what I said to you above more clear , that the Government of England is weak , I will a little discourse of the Nature of it . England then is a Government Compounded and mixt of the three Principal kinds of Government , A King , who is a Sovereign , qualified and limited Prince , and the three Estates , who are the Lords Spiritual and Temporal compounding the Aristocratical part of the Government ; and the Commons in Parliament with an Absolute delegated power , making the Democratical part ; the Legislative Authority is in the King , and the three Estates , the power of leavying Money in the Commons , and the Executive power in the King , but to be administred by Ministers sworn and qualified , which is the Reason of those two grand Maximes in the Law of England ; first , that the King of England is always a Minor ; and secondly , that he can do no wrong . Now the Foundation this Government was first built and stood upon , was the Ballance of Lands , and England being a Kingdome of Territory not of Trade , it always was , and ever will be true , that the Ballance of Lands is the Ballance of Government ; and this Maxim of the Ballance is to the Politicks , what the Compass is to Navigators , the Circulation of Blood to Physitians , Guns to an Army , and Printing to Learning . The Proportion this Ballance held in the Government , was formerly in the King , Church , and Nobility above two Thirds , and in the whole People not one Third : So that if we divide the times of this Government into two General parts ( as it naturally divides it self ) from the Norman Conquest to the time of Henry the 7 th . and from Henry the 7 th to the present time ; then I say , in the first part of it , the Strength of the Government lay in the middle , or Aristocratical part as it ought to do , for a King must be supported either by a Nobility or an Army , and by this means the two extreams which are the King and People ( of which extreams a Government can never be compounded to live long ) were secured by the middle , for the Nobility not only supported the Throne , but shadowed the People from the Tyranny of the Princes . And to give you a clear evidence of the truth of this , both that the strength of the Government was in the Aristocratical part , and that they kept the Ballance between the King and the People , I need only observe that all the Civil Wars that we ever had in England in those times , were ever made against the Princes by the Nobility , for their encroachments upon the People , and they always prevailed against them . But Henry the 7 th . who was a dark and suspicious Prince , and an entertainer of fortune by the day rather than of any great fore-sight ( as my Lord Bacon observes of him ) observing upon his coming to the Crown , how great an over-Ballance the Nobility had been to the Prince , made way by Laws , and other means for the Nobility to make alienations of their Lands , and so in seeking to cure one mischief he procured a far greater , which though it did not shew it self presently , yet in short time after it began to shake the Foundations of the Throne . And from this time the Lands began to come into the hands of the People , and the times that followed served well to increase this beginning ; for Henry the 8 th . dissolving Abbies , and Monasteries , all those Lands which were very great came by degrees into the hands of the People , so that the greatest part of the Lands of the Antient Nobility , and great part of the Lands of the Church were in the hands of the People , who now held above two thirds of the whole Lands of England . And rherefore this consequence will be clear , that the strength of the Government is now in the Democratical part , and to confirm this to you by example . There hath been one Civil War in England , since Henry the Seventh , who made that War ? the Barons ? No , the People made it ; then it is clear not anly that the People are the strongest part , but that they are able to make War with the King , Nobility , and Church ; also if there should be another Civil War in England , it would not only be by the People , but whosoever be the beginners of it , the People will prevail , as far as human Reason can foresee . But now least you should think the compliance of this Parliament with the King , a contradiction to what hath been said , I will discourse it to you before we go farther touching them . This Parliament was chosen in the year 1661 , and came in with a change of Government ; now in all changes of Government , there is a violent concussion of the whole Body , and the People always pass from one extream to another , without being able to stay in the middle ; England therefore was then in a sick distempered condition , now it hath recovered its just Temper , and is restored to Health , ( as strong Bodies will work out the Poyson they take by degrees . ) Now this Parliament represented the humors and distempers of the times wherein they were chosen , and consequently their Actions were violent , and they did many things afterward to be repented of , and no doubt had they done what they have done , to a designing and Parsimonious Prince , he might have taken the advantage of their Hearts to have undone England ; for what with that great Revenue , and all those most mighty Aids they have given him , he might have made so great a Bank , and annexed so great a Revenue of Lands to the Crown , that he might have maintained an Army , over-ballanced the Nobility , and have Reigned without Parliaments , and so have brought England into the same condition with France , but these times are over , and not like to return ; I am without all doubt therefore , that the profuseness , and inadvertency of the King hath saved England from falling into destruction under this Parliament . And as this Parliament represented the sickly times , in which they were chosen , when the Pople of England were in a kind of Delirium or Dotage ; so a New Parliament would represent a People restored to their Wits , cured of the Evil , and steadily pursuing the great Interest of the Common-wealth . Wherefore our Court has got a new Maxime , never heard of in the World before , and which is their Grand Arcanum of State , and that is , that the King and this Parliament must never part ; for if they do , the Government is dissolved : A Maxim they will keep to , and was first beaten into their Heads by Clarendon and Monk , but the true reason of that Maxime , is , because they never dare call a Parliament to represent the present state of England , having enough to do with the present , who were it not for the daily fomentations of Court E●●edients , would even themselves revert back to the English Interest . In former times we had two grand Maxims in our Government , one was that we should always keep the Ballance of Christendom equal and steddy , England only having the natural advantage to do that , and this grew up with us from the Norman Conquest , for above Six hundred years since , the other was , that we should always make our selves the Head and Protection of the Protestant Interest , a Maxim that we took from the Reformation , and which we shew'd the World in Queen Elizabeths time , how we have kept to these two Maxims of entring into a League , to subvert and destroy the Protestant Religion , and to break the Bonds , and remove the Land-marks of States and Kingdoms will sufficiently declare to you . And now we have a Maxime , which I am sure cannot last longer than the King lives ; for the death of the King is the death of the Parliament , one thing you may observe by the way , that vigorous times bring forth strong Maxims , but the principal use we are to make is this , if according to our Maxim , That the King and this Parliament must never part , and they must dye together ; then this Government seems to be calculated only for the Kings life , as the Government of the Protector Cromwel was for his , and must a little time after suffer a Dissolution . And indeed , in such a mixt Government as ours is , where one of the extreams comes so far to over-ballance the other ; I cannot see but the Government must dye , as it is in natural Bodies , when one humour is over all the rest in to great disproportion . In every sound and healthful Government , there is a steadiness of proceeding by good means to good ends , which is called Conduct , but in a sickly state , as many Emergencies arise , so new Medicines and Expedients must be applyed , and such a Government may be called a Government of Expedients , and such a one is ours , and the great Art and Cunning in this Session of Parliament , to bring it to such an Issue as is expected , is but an Expedient , and Expedients never hold , they only serve a turne ; Cunning and Tricks in States-men , argue them to be Mountebanks in the Politicks , and weak Governments must always have a care of evil Accidents and Occasions , when there are Causes of their dissolution . The Ravishment of Lucretia was not the cause of the Introducing a Common-wealth in Rome , it was only the occasion ; if any notable occasion fall out in England , as the Death of the King , Insurrection , or Arming of Papists , Invasion by the French , or such like that shall give the People opportunity to Arme , the Government is gone . Now if you should ask what are the causes of this weakness of the Government of England , I answer principally two , 1. The change of the ballance as I have shewed you before . 2. A Succession of Three weak Princes together , where Two sufficient Princes succeed together , they do great things , but where Two or Three weak Princes succeed one another , the Government can hardly stand , and indeed if a weak Prince immediately succeed a wise , he may do well enough , for the Virtue of the wise Princes Government , runs through the Veins of that of the Foolish , and so it comes to pass , that it is a great while before the defects of his Government come to discover themselves ; and I say that we never before ( for above Six hundred years ) had a succession of Three , either sufficient or weak Princes together , and therefore I make no doubt to affirm , that if the Government of the Parliament had not been interposed in the middle ( as I said before ) the Government must have sunk ere now ; for save what they did , we have not taken one true stop , nor struck one true stroke since Queen Elizabeth . It is a great truth no doubt , that foolish Princes ever had , and ever will have foolish Councellors , for Matchiavil concluded well , when he said , That the Wisdom of the Prince , never takes beginning from the Wisdom of his Council , but the Wisdom of the Council always from the Wisdom of the Prince . But if you should ask me now whether the K. of England will effectually assist you since the Parliament hath not only addressed him so to do , but has promised him sufficient supplys for the doing thereof . I answer , no , the reasons whereof are not to be rendered by way of Ratiocination , there being little of reason in any thing we either do or say . 1. The K. will not , the Will is the Mistriss of the Love , and a man is either good or bad , as his Will is , there is an antipathy between the Genius of our Court , and the Genius of Holland . 2. We are wholly addicted to the French humour and interest , we cannot forbear expressing our joys upon any Victory of theirs . 3. The D. of York who does , and every day will weigh more and more , and is in the way of all those good intentions the K. might otherwise have , is a Papist , and so far from affecting you , that he hath little esteem for his own Countrymen , in his nature affecting none but French and Irish , with whom he seems to have a Sympathy of Genius , and how strangely strong Wills , and misplaced Affections may transporr Men of weak judgments is easie for you to apprehend . 4. Our Ministers of State are against you . Now to end this long Letter , what conclusion shall we draw from all these Premises . I doubt not but your prudence will instruct you to make a far better than any I can offer , however I will say something , if it be but to occasion you to think , the Parliament and People of England have a mighty Affection to your state ; these are the shapes of our Court and our People , in the best manner I can present them to you , and if I mistake not , your State can never in time to come be better secured against shaking , than by the friendship of England . The Parliament would send over an Army sufficient to engage the French , and pay them to , as I have ground to think . Wherefore in my poor opinion , the natural result might be , that the States should by an effectual Declaration Remonstrate to the World , the growing greatness of France , and all the mischievous consequences it draws after it , and to call upon England as the Head of all Protestant States for their assistance , to which the late address , and the measures the Court shall take thereupon will naturally tend , only the time of such Declaration cannot well be determined ; and for this the States have a President yet fresh in Memory , when they publickly offered to the State their differences with the Court of England , which gave the Parliament occasion to Recognize the matter , and what an admirable and speedy effect that produced , cannot yet be forgotten . FINIS .