A speech made by Master Waller esquire in the honourable House of Commons concerning episcopacie whether it should be committed or rejected. Waller, Edmund, 1606-1687. This text is an enriched version of the TCP digital transcription A67350 of text R14491 in the English Short Title Catalog (Wing W524). Textual changes and metadata enrichments aim at making the text more computationally tractable, easier to read, and suitable for network-based collaborative curation by amateur and professional end users from many walks of life. The text has been tokenized and linguistically annotated with MorphAdorner. The annotation includes standard spellings that support the display of a text in a standardized format that preserves archaic forms ('loveth', 'seekest'). Textual changes aim at restoring the text the author or stationer meant to publish. This text has not been fully proofread Approx. 5 KB of XML-encoded text transcribed from 4 1-bit group-IV TIFF page images. 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A67350 R14491 (Wing W524). civilwar no A speech made by Master Waller Esquire, in the Honorable House of Commons, concerning episcopacie, whether it should be committed or rejecte Waller, Edmund 1641 911 1 0 0 0 0 0 11 C The rate of 11 defects per 10,000 words puts this text in the C category of texts with between 10 and 35 defects per 10,000 words. 2002-10 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2002-11 Apex CoVantage Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2003-01 Emma (Leeson) Huber Sampled and proofread 2003-01 Emma (Leeson) Huber Text and markup reviewed and edited 2003-02 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion A SPEECH Made By Master WALLER Esquire , IN THE HONORABLE HOUSE OF COMMONS , Concerning EPISCOPACIE , Whether it should be committed or rejected . 〈…〉 A Speech made by Mr Waller Esquire , in the Honourable of House of Commons , concerning Episcopacy , whether it should be committed or rejected . Mr Speaker , THere is no doubt but the sense of what this Nation hath suffered from the present Bishops , hath produced these complaints , and the apprehension Men have of suffering the like in time to come , make so many desire the taking away of Episcopacy . But I conceive it is possible that we may now not take a right measure of the mindes of the people by these petitions , for when they subscribed them , the Bishops were armed with a dangerous Commission , of making new Canons , imposing new oathes , and the like , but now we have disarmed them of that power : these Petitioners lately ; did look upon Episcopacy , as a Beast armed with Hornes and Clawes , but now that we have cut and pared them , ( and may if we see cause , yet reduce it into narrower bounds ) it may perhaps be more agreeable ; Howsoever if they be still in passion , it becomes us soberly to consider the right use and antiquity thereof , and not to comply further with a generall desire , then may stand with a generall good , We have already showed , that Episcopacy , and the evils thereof , are mingled like water and oyle ; We have also in part severed them . But I beleeve you will finde that our Lawes and the present Government of the Church are mingled like Wine and Water , so inseparable , that the Abrogation of at least a hundred of our Lawes is desired in this Petition . I have often heard a Noble answer of the Lords commended in this House , to a proposition of like nature , but of lesse consequence , they gave no other reason of their refusall but this , Nolumus mutare leges Angliae : It was the Bishops , was so answered then , and it would become the dignitie and wisedome of this House , to answer the people now with a Nolumus mutare . I see some are moved with a number of hands against the Bishops , which I confesse , rather inclines Me to their defence , for I look upon Episcopacy , as a Counter-scarf , or outwork , which if it be taken by this assault of the people , and withall this Mysterie once revealed , that we must deny them nothing when they aske it thus in troopes , we may in the next place , have as hard a taske to defend our propriety , as we have lately had to recover it from the prerogative . If by multiplying hands , and petitions , they prevail for an equality in things Ecclesiasticall , this next demand perhaps may be Leaegraria , the like equality in things Temporall . The Roman Story tels us , that when the people began to flock about the Senate , and were more curious to direct and know what was done , then to obey , that Common-wealth soon came to ruine . Their Legem rogare grew quickly to be a Legem ferre , and after , when their Legions had found that they could make a Dictator , they never suffered the Senate to have a voyce any more in such Election . If this great Innovation proceed , I shall expect a flat and levell in learing too , as well as in Church preferments . Horos alit artes , for though it be true , that grave and pious Men do study for learning sake , and imbrace vertue for it self , yet it is as true , that youth ( which is the season when learning is gotten ) is not without ambition , nor will ever take paines to excell in any thing , when there is not some hope of excelling others in reward and dignity . There are two reasons chiefly alleadged against our Church Government . First Scripture , which ( as some Men thinks ) points out another form . Secondly , the Abuses of the present Superiors . For Scripture I will not dispute it in this place , but am confident that when ever an equ all division of Lands and Goods shall be desired , there will be as many places in Scripture found out , which seem to favour that , as there are now alleadged against the Prelacy or preferment in the Church , And as for abuses where you are now in the Remonstrance told , what this and that poore man hath suffered by the Bishops , you may be presented with a thousand Instances of poor Men , that have received hard measure from their Land-Lords , and of worldly Goods abused , to the injury of others , and disadvantage of the Owners , And therefore Mr Speaker my humble Motion is , that we may settle Mens ' mindes herein , and by a question declare our Resolution to reform , that is , not to abolish Episcopacy . FINIS .