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Printed in the Year 1673. LETTER I ; YOurs of the 4th , Instant ( which supposes me here at Hamborough , and congratulates my arrival ) came a day before me ; for I left not Amsterdam so soon by a fortnight as you imagined . Your Accounts I have sleightly perused , but shall nothing to them till our Correspondents at Bruges and Antwerp send me theirs : nor can I stir from hence these seven Months ; for ( besides the business I told you of ) I must expect the Phoenix , which will not arrive till April ; and in it I hope to find as much of 1. B's effects , as will near satisfie the debt he owed me . Whilst I was at home ( knowing the vain suspitions of the Rabble ) I neither sent nor asked you any news ; but now I am here , I by no means blame the desire you have to understand the posture of our affairs , & how they have been managed ; especially since you pretend to no further an information ( were I capable of more ) than what any stranger that passes through the Countrey gives his acquaintance : I say I cannot blame this request , having now the same favour also to ask of you , for the Relations I heretofore saw , were often very false and uncertain ; nor can this freedom I hope , be any prejudice to our respective Governours , for what may be great satisfaction and news to those in our sphere , is none to them , who have spies ( we are sure ) abroad , informing them at another rate of all occurrencies . But before I acquaint you with our misfortunes ( too well known to the world ) I must beg pardon , if for my ease ( my Letter being long ) I write in Dutch , which wants , I confess the comprehensive harmony of your smooth and gentle Language . That John de Witt was a man of parts , is held by not a few of our wise ones ▪ yet either his ignorance in the state of your Kingdom ( which has hidden mysteries in it not to be fathom'd , I think , by forreign Polititians ) or God Almighties particular Judgment on those that glory too much in the strength of their understanding , brought him to that dismal end , and with this misfortune also , as to be now esteemed a fool and a Traitor by the generality of his Countrey-men . Two irreconcileable piques he had to England : First , because from ▪ thence he imagined , that the Prince of Orange would have a perpetual support , and be at length the ruine of him and his Cabal : And secondly . by reason of its strength , its Ships , its convenient Ports , & inclination to Trade , 't would at one time or other ingross all negotiation to it self . These thoughts prompted him , and the rest of them , instead of courting you in forrain Countries after the Peace , to countenance under hand all kind of private affronts & Libels that could be invented , to lessen you as well in our own esteem , as among our Neighbours and Allies , and well m●ght we and our friends think , we had been your Match in the late War , when we often saw some of your Country men seem to yield , ( by the hanging down of their heads ) that we had had the better of you . Though out Sea-men and Factors were thus a Gog , our Embassadours with you were sufficiently submiss and pliant , calling it the drunken mirth of some private Subjects , and assuring your chief Ministers , that our States valued your Monarch above all things ; nor was it hard for them to believe this , seeing that he alone forced his Christian Majesty , in the height of his Conquest , to the peace of Aqui●grane , and was the only Defence we had against our being invaded by him . Every body was satisfied therefore that the Great King of Fraence had no Equal ; but the Great King of England , and that he thirsted for nothing more , than liberty of salling upon us , who had broken ) as he said ) our Faith with him . He could never forgive us our underhand opposing his designs upon Flanders , which obliged our Governors , in spight o● all in-bred animosity , to court you unto the triple Alliance , that would have preserved us ( had it continued as 't was once happily begun ) in our old prosperous and flourishing condition . England was not ignorant , to be sure , how much we wanted it's assistance , and that it could never have a fairer occasion to oblige us to do Justice ( as you termed it ) to the Prince of Orange ; who now was of a fit age to receive those honours , which the merits of his Family had as 't were entailed upon him . But the ru●ing party , that feared nothing like this , resolved to obstruct it , though with the utter ruine of their Countrey . & therefore when all imaginable intrigues of theirs , could not make your Ki●● desert the interest of his flesh & blood , they privately offered his Chri●tian Maj●sty what conditions he pleased , so he would but joyn his powerful Army , with their Fleet , and immediately fall upon you . Having done this , and not doubting of the acceptance of their Proposals ▪ they sent to our Admirals , who were cruising with several Men of War , to strike Flag to no single Ship of yours ; nor feared they any inconvenience , because yo● had no number abroad . This they knew would force you by degrees to a q●arrel , and yet not without some plausibility of reason on their side ▪ it being a thing harsh in the general opinion of the World ▪ that a Fleet in all its glory and strength should do obeysance to every Cock-boat , that owned it self of the Navy-Royal Your King soon resented this affront , and demanded Reparation with that warmth and vigour as was imagin'd , but whilst Agents were passing to and fro , h●s Christian Majesty either distrusting us , or thinking his game surer by having you his friend , not only refus'd our Conditions , but sends them to your King , who ( as he thought ) out of Interest or Revenge would now joyn tooth and nail with him . Your willingness nevertheless to accomodate all things with us , was not so pleasing , as one would imagine , to De wit and his party ; because they knew that your terms would be much worse as to their own interest than formerly ; and therefore resolving to give you no satisfaction , they buzz'd in every bodies ears , that your King had not a penny of money ; That most of your Parliament being our Pentioners , would give him none ; That the whole Nation hated the French , that not a Seaman of yours would fight ; that your Non-conformists would be up in Arms : and in fine after a thousand such lessening allegations , they declared it to be an unpardonable folly , to value or league with a people , that wanted both Fidelity and Power to help their Friends : all which noise spent not it self in vain , but caused thousands to believe you could do us neither harm nor good . The first unlook't for accident that touched our Politico to the quick , and made him tear his hair , was your King's postponing the Bankers ▪ and converting the Receipts of the Exchequer to his own use ; for now contrary to all expectation , he saw his Majesty might put out a Fleet of himself , & that your Subjects ( who love not we know an overtopping Rival ) would even for their own interest prosecute the War once a foot , let them be never so averse to it in the beginning . But the thunder clap that gave him his mortal wound , was the Liberty of Conscience so universally granted to the People ; this brought the Devil a thousand times into his mouth , saying that nothing but he , who owed Holland a shame , could put it into your heads , and that shortly you would be as united as our selves , so that ever hereafter the Kings enemies must become the common enemy of the Nation : and I must tell you , 't was not so in the last War. The effects of the Toleration were soon perceived by every body ; for many of your Country men at Rotterdam , Delf , Leyden , and else where in this Land , frighted heretofore out of England , upon the score of Religion , have now not only Longings homewards , but are also generally lookt upon by our people as so many Spies to betray us , whereas formerly no Dutchman was thought more faithful than they , to the wel●are and interest of this Government ; nay if this be not a wonder tell me one , that a Quaker of yours at Rotterdam , should be so transported at the news , as to throw his Hat which had been naild at least ten years to his head ) into the fire , and to drink the Kings health with a Vive le Roy in his mouth . For my own part , though two descents have not , I think , washed away all my English blood , yet upon the account of my Mothers kindred , and my own business , who knows whether ever with convenience I can quit Holland or no , but this I must tell you , that my two Uncles & their good-wives talk much of London , and therefore I shall desire you to inform me what real foundation this Indulgence has , that I may accordingly advise my scrupulous friends , for there has been no question more ventilated at any time in these Quarters . I do not , I 'le assure you , ask this of you upon my own score , but theirs ; for had my Grand-mother had so digestive or rather charitable a stomack as mine , I should have at present a greater interest in Mark-Lane than now I am ever like to have . Yet to speak to you with my old frankness , I am not able to conceive how a People so wedded to Persecution , as you were thought in the general opinion of the World ▪ can so suddainly forget it , as not to be grasping ▪ at it again upon every slight pretence and humour ; and thus having finished my request ; let us if you please return to our Fac-totum , who had so groslly reckoned without his Host . He was , you may easily imagine much surprised at what had happened , yet outwardly no man seemed less , for in that way of disguise he was esteemed a great Master : never wanting some plausible gloss or other to lessen the dread that suddain accidents brought along with them . For as to the stopping of the Treasury , he pretended it the greatest advantage to us in the world , since no private man would hereafter trust the Crown let emergencies be never so great , and yet every Monarch must often borrow of his Subjects . And , as concerning the Toleration , he was not ignorant , he said , of the zeal and self love of your Clergy ; who one time or other would get it repealed , and that then all Dissenters would be ten times more disobliged and implacable than before . These and the former Reasons strangely satisfied the multitude , yet many an honest man cryed that we had been mistaken in our measures last war , that Kings find expedients when others little dream of them : That your Kingdom was a place whose Maxims and Secrets were not to be guessed at ; for when we thought our selves wholly sure , & that you wanted either mony or men , Allies abroad , or Uuity at home , and the like , still some accident or other happened to deceive and ruine us . But nothing can save them whom God infatuates ; nor could this Macchiavel keep himself ( as he imagined ) above board without the rash attempt of neglecting your Friendship ; and having thus made a false step , he was forced in desperation to contrive ( as they say ) this following Treason . He had for a long time kept fair with France , and was as much in the Kings books , as a forreign Minister could well be ; and this he did for a support in case his enemies ( the Prince beginning to be the Joy of the People ) should be able to contend , and if they absolutely got the better , then here should be a sure Refuge and Asylum for him . He continued ( even after the Treaty at Breda ) still in favour with that Monarch , who presently after daily more and more shewed his hatred to us : nor did the Faction fail to insinuate to the people , as if the Prince encouraged the King to a quarrel , to become thereby his Tributary , if he worsted us ; or at least to be restored by the States to the Dignity of his Ancestors , since an Army and a General must be in vogue in a War ; and every body knows how much the Souldiers loved and adored him . They had been ( as I should have told you before ) busie to lessen also the Princes esteem in England , when they were forced in the year 70 to let him come over to you ; for they fancied , that because his Grandfather had by the assistance of our established Ministry ( whom he protected ▪ agrandized himself , and so crushed the potent Arminian Faction , that they were all hated for a time by us ; therefore by the same rule ; if your Church men could be put out of conceit with him ( I mean the present Prince ) your People by their insinuation and power might be easily made averse and irreconcilable to his person , let the King be never so kind . Hereupon , to make him seem a Phanatick ( which is the grand bug-bear of your Episcopal Government ) they expresly ordered him never to receive in any of your Churches kneeling , but that the Minister should bring him the Bread & Wine , as he sate in his Pew or Seat ; for we called it an arrogant Institution of your Divines , as pretending to be wiser , forsooth , than all the Reformed World , seeing there is not one Protestant Congregation that ever knelt at the Communion besides your selves . Here they were again unfortunate , and the plot vanished in sumo ; for it seems your Spiritual Leaders ( had they been disgusted ) have not that influence over you as we once imagined . Our Juncto were now in no little perplexity ( you may be assured ) nothing being able to hinder the encrease of his Highness's esteem in all our Provinces ; or to put any stop to the French Preparations , whilst on the other side your King called aloud for satisfaction by his Embassadors , who gave them also many a secret bite for their perfidious dealing with you , as he would have it . But their private resolution was ( as I said before ) to give you no Reparation , and to sink sooner than to have your Protection , assuring one another that no Demand of France ( though victorious ) could be so destructive to their particular Interest as yours ; nor is this kind of self ends any news to Christendom , since we daily see there are men in Authority that will rather submit to the Turk himself than miss of their aimes , or fall into the hand of a Neighbour , whom they hate or envy . 'T was therefore decreed to treat you with all possible fair promises , on purpose to make the French jealous , or thereby at least to puzzel their measures : and if they could by these Artifices keep you a Neuter , till Spring , you would not have time to set out your Fleet , so that by compounding with his Christian Majesty ( who missing your assistance would be far more tractable ) we should make you contemptible to both of us , and to the whole World also . This was the Design , but it failed , for you presently shewed us you would not be amused , and therefore began about Christmas to equippe , and when they delayed you satisfaction , you became your own Carvers , setting on our Smyrna Fleet , which I must tell you , seemed a happy omen to some pretenders to Wit ; and a presage to them of our future success , because you did not take them all . 'T was now plain you were in earnest , yet there wanted not real good Patriots ( though it seems they were deceived ) that cheered both themselves and people , with a fancy that your Parliament , ( which was without fail they said , to sit in October . ) would question this War , and never contribute to it ; for 't was in all our mouths , that the whole English Nation was perswaded , that the whole Protestant Cause lay now at stake , and that the Pope was the Contriver of this difference . Many also would have it advantagious to us , that the French Ships were to be joyned with you ; because your own Fleet , ( which you too well know we all dread ) would not be so great now , as were you left to your selves ; besides , they said that Auxiliaries sometimes by private Orders must not fight , at other times perchance they would not fight , at best there was to be a deference and winking at their faults , it being impossible for you to command them like your own Subjects : nay , some envious men rejoyced , that should you now be successful ▪ and do all your selves , yet these Allies would certainly rob you of ( at least ) half the G●ory ▪ Spring being now come , and the great Force both by Sea & Land almost ready to fall upon us , the Juncto agreed to play their Cards thus , that is to say , they would put 10 or 12 thousand men at least into Mastricht , as the place the Enemy would first attaque , and therefore the Towns on the Rhine , being left unprovided , they must soon become a prey to his Christian Majestie , on whom they resolved ( if the worst came to the worst ) to depend , nay , rather on the Devil , than to be at the mercy of the Prince , and his Party , into whose hands they knew also they should at last fall , if the War were but procrastinated ; for in times of Action , Souldiers will alwayes over-top Gownmen ; besides , there being very little hopes by force to resist two such Monarchs ( which is the best excuse the world generally makes for them ) they thought fit to be thus before-hand , that their own Conditions and Terms might be the better . But though they determined in this manner , as to France , yet they thought fit to try one experiment first , which would be an advantage to them , what way soever it succeeded , viz. To put out their Fleet with all the hast and privacy imaginable to intercept yours , before you joyned D'Estres ; so that if you happened to beat us , they had a fair pretence of having done their indeavours for their Countrey , & then the French in our consternation might over-run us at pleasure : But on the other side , if by surprize or chance we should overthrow you at Sea , it would be easy to clap store of men into these Towns which ( we now say ) were designed to be lost , and no hard thing in the height of our Victory & Joy to make some agreement with the rest of our Enemies ; and so to your loss alone , all things should be here just as they were before . 'T is certain , one part of the Project was well carryed , for our Fleet weighed Anchor when few of our own News mongers thought it half ready ; but what the success was , when we came to blows , you know , I am sure as well as my self ; only this I must add , That De Ruyter , after the Fight , could not refrain saying to this purpose , That now he saw you were invincible , and more than men ; for whether we caught you a sleep , or awake , divided , or together , we still returned with loss : And truly , who could imagine that a little Squadron , nay rather 6 or 7 Ships , should so long resist our whole Navy ; and that your Duke should engage with so much valour and fury , as to change Ships ( when refitting lost time ) oftner than great Generals at Land have done their Horses . We lost not above four Sail ( or six as some say ) but certainly we never had so many men destroyed , & our Fleet so torn before ; & therefore not a few question whether we could have repaired , and been fit to fight again last Summer , supposing we had had no other enemy to distract us . But the French Inundation that presently followed , put it out of dispute ; for the great Sennacheri● ( as some of our devout women called him ) having taken 24 places in 22 dayes , we durst not being our Ships into their usual Harbours , being fully assured , that not a Sea-man would stay in them ; for besides the fear of you , there was none but had in this publick calamity concerns enough at home . This was our case , Sir , and now were we ready to yield up every thing , when it pleased God that Vtreicht ( like another Capua ) or at least the strange rains , & ill weather , should put a stop to the Victorious French by Land , as also to the ruine your proud triumphant Navy was drawing on us , for what could have saved our East-India Ships , having no Allies , nor Fleet of our own to protect us , but a three months storm , which for the most part hastened them forward , and put you into a continual disorder , not permitting you to watch your prey , as otherwise you would have done : Nay , some on board have assured me , That had not the wind chopt about the same day , we got into Embden ; we must nevertheless have fallen into the very midst of you . But our tumultuous People made no other use of this respite , which God Almighty had sent us , but to embrue their hands in the blood of the two De Witts , after that strange and horrid manner you have heard of . I cannot ( because of the consequences of it ) justifie this Violence , though many an impartial man thinks them to have been really guilty by their Treason of all our misery ; as also of contriving the Princes Death , who now by the ill success of their Government , had got ( as they ever feared ) all Authority into his hands ; yet there want not others , who will have it , That the Orange Party hired the Barber to accuse the Eldest Brother of having intentions of Poysoning His Highness ; and that the rest of the cryes against them are but meer Calumnies . For my part , I will not possitively affirm what is laid to their charge , only this I must say , that I have many more reasons against them both , than for them ; but whether the Accusations be true or false , The Arminians have now lost their Head , and being hereby depressed , are so full of malice and hatred , that they care not who masters us , so those in power , share in the misery : and therefore a villanous Minister or Preacher of theirs ( when even the Catholicks of all Holland , and particularly of that Quarter , would by no means assist or joyn with the French ) brought them by a secret pass to the relief of Woerden ; by the taking of which , we should , as many affirm , have regained half our Losses . These good Actions have made many zealous Protestants much esteem our Papists ( who you know are numerous ) and to reckon them very true and faithful to their Countrey . But who could have thought that the House of Austria , those super-refined Sons of Rome , should be our only Supporters against a Popish King , whom the Pope himself has ( I warrant you ) blessed and congratulated for his Zeal in advancing of the Gospel . But in earnest Sir , let me tell you , The itch of propagating Opinions , and idle notions is ( unless in your Countrey ) quite out of fashion in Christendom ; and I believe no body thinks that France in its intentions of Conquering us , ever thought of the Church ; or that the Emperour troubled his head about Religion , when he designed our Assistance : this was a frequent pretence about a hundred years ago ; but time and experience has taught us all wit. The powerfull entreaties of the Spaniards ( who fear the loss of Flanders ) were his Imperial Majesties principal motive in taking up Arms , though naturally , you may imagine , he is troubled to see the strength of one daily encrease , who has an eye upon the Empire , and hopes to succeed at the next vacancy . Nor does the surprize of Lorrain lightly stick in Caesar's stomack , which is both a member of the Empire , and appertains also truly to Prince Charles , whose Protection he has long taken upon him : neither are his great Officers ignorant , that there 's much profit and advantage in helping a rich and plentifull Nation . Brandenburgh too has his ends , you may swear ▪ and it encourages him not a little , that his great Master Leopold is concerned in our affairs . The Princesse Dowager of Orange has also a mighty influence over him , and it may be you I think it strange if she had rather have him our Patron , than her Grand-child ; for she cannot forget ( as her back-friends say ) that he is Son to your Princess Royal , whose great Birth she could never brook , but envy . If we prosper , this Electour is to have , not only his own upon the Rhine free , which hitherto in a manner we kept from him ; but also many other by-emoluments ; and nothing encourages both Prince and Peasant like gain . Our only hopes then at present , are in these Auxiliary Forces ; and this advantage we have already got , that they have diverted Turene , and the main of the French Army , which would have undone us before this ; and without all doubt , had not the Bishop of Munster been by their approach obliged to retire , we had not only lost Groningen , but with the whole Province , that of Westfriezland also : Nevertheless he has done us mischief enough , and sayes , He 'l teach us to paint him in a Pontifical and Military habit , riding on a Hog but who would have thought expressing him to be Master of the best Westphalia-Bacon , had been so great a Crime ? The Prince , who is all in all among us , went lately , with the whole strength he could make , towards Liege Countrey , in hopes of some great exploit , to repair his ill fortune at Woerden : How he will prosper , God knows ; only this I am sure of , that our Peop'e will judge of the Conduct according to the success ; and therefore his Friends do very much pity the strange hard game he has to play ; for he must , as I said , have alwaies good luck if he hopes to please ; nor is he wholly to disoblige you , whom he has so near a Relation to , and yet he must remember how easie it is for his Enemies to make him suspected by the people , who by nature are alwaies jealous and violent . Besides , if he stands in perpetual defiance of the late ruling Party , he 'l find many inconveniencies by it , both as to his own , and to the publick good ; but if he protects or joyns with them ( for many of them have made him great promises ▪ ) the commonalty may chance to forsake him , and think of another ; and if that should happen , what assurance or relyance can he have on them , that have alwaies kept him under , and perchance design this way for his final ruine and destruction ? If his condition be ticklish and ill , ours ( I mean the Nations ) is worse ; nay , as bad as it can almost be wished by you ; for there 's scarce any Village that fears not to be burnt , or at least pillag'd before morning by the Enemy . Our sluces and damms are most of them pull'd up ; our draining mills destroyed , and that water which protected many places in the Summer , endangers them now if it should freeze ; so that Towns of consequence are in perpetual dread and terrour . Our Traffique is ceased , and little coming in , and less going out ; and , which is yet stranger , most of our Sea-men are forced for a livelihood to run a Privateering ; and when they get somthing , they must sell it at half the worth , seeing our very home-trade is quite gone by the loss of the Mose and Rhine , which heretofore brought us still so much gain and profit . No wonder then if the Poor cry for meat , when the Rich can hardly live ; and what Artizan can maintain his Family , when scarce any body will set him on work ? These are causes of Insurrections in our Cities , and perpetual tumults among the Bores ; nor have we had any comfortable news this long while ; but the fond exaggerations of our Gazetts , or sometimes the taking of a Prize from you , which to me I confess brings little joy , since it shows you are still busie in commerce , whilst our Merchants sit idle at home ; and though perchance Sally and Algiers may weary you this way , 't is not to be done by a People whose whole glory and advantage depends upon Negotiation . Peace is the thing I cry for ; and peradvanture God will at length hear us , since we begin to make good use of this affliction and chastisement ; for with admiration I say it , There was never a greater change in any Countrey , and mercy alwaies attends a sorrowful and contrite people . One thing I had almost forgot to tell you , which makes the whole world stand amaz'd , and wonder how they have been thus long deceived concerning you ; for all men of all Countries have ever cryed , That 't was your Parliament that in truth governed ; your King being no body , or at most but half a Prince . This therefore made them generally conclude you an insignificant people either to Friend or Foe ; especially seeing there must be continual application in all business to both these Powers , which ( as 't was thought ) instead of agreeing , strove to circumvent each other . But now the Scene is quite chaned ; for since they have seen your King raise an Army , proclaim War , set out his Fleet , threaten Newters , assist Friends , pay every body , and all this of himself ; they confess you are a potent Nation , fit to be courted , and that the ballance of Christendome is in your hands . In short , take it upon the word of an honest man , This unexpected way of proceeding has done you over all Europe more real honour ( and the honour of a Countrey is the best part of its strength ) than any thing that has happened to you in this age . Having thus fulfilled your commands in my plain and inartificial manner , which I am sure your goodness will pardon , though your admirable judgement cannot ; I say , having thus shewed my obedience , you must excuse my longing to hear from you , and I doubt not but you will as frankly inform me how things stand with you . I desire no intrigues of State ( as I hinted in the beginning ) but such an account , as , were I at London ( and 't is by your King's favour lawfull ) every body there would give me . When you write , direct your Letters to our Correspondent at Antwerp , who grows rich by the great business that runs through his hands in these troubles : for many Merchants of note ( and now you may see how the world is changed with us ) are compelled to such shifts , being scarce able to vent one penny-worth of Goods , without being beholden to others . Farewell , and God send us peace , which is the incessant prayer of Hamburgh Decemb. 26. 1672. Your Faithfull Friend and Servant , F. C. Reader , I hope you 'l pardon this Translation , though it comes short of the Dutch Original : I put it in the nearest English I could , to express the Author's sense , and therefore take it in good part I beseech you . LETTER II. I Will not trouble you now with the private affaires betwixt us , since to thank you for your excellent and most satisfactory Letter , of the 26 th . past is task enough , and far too much , were I to do it as it deserves : but how could I expect less , from one who had Leyden for a Mistress so many years , and ( after the death of your father ) so much experience in the world , leaving then the Muses , and your Dedication to Theo ogie , for this so profi able a Study . Yet for all I owe you many obligations , you must pardon me if I express my mind freely in every thing , and complain , even in the beginning , of your writing in Dutch , which ( though I understand it ) shews in you methinks that aversion to us , you ever profest against ; nor can you have any pretence for this our unusual way of corresponding , unless resolving altogether to be critical , you prefer your Mother-tongue before one which you have acquired half by Art. This excuse is sufficient to me , who so well know your gentle disposition , and cannot but rejoyce at the profession you make , that you have not yet lost all your English blood ; and therefore , I must again and again , repeat my entreaties . That you would come hither , and except of the Invitation of a Nation that exceeds ( when 't is confided in ) even it s own frank and generous promises . As for Holland , I pitty its condition , I 'le assure you ; but if God Almighti'es particular Judgement ( as you your self intimate ) brought De Wi●t to that lamentable end , for glorying too much in the strength of his understanding , what could you in Just ce otherwise expect , than some strange unparalleld disastre , their being no Neighbour whom you have not in your vanity affronted , and above all , England it self so kind and friendly to you . One Maxime , I remember , you had ever in your mouths , That money was omnipotent , and therefore abounding in it ; you could not possibly need or fear any thing ; but now you see the fallacy of that opinion ; and that you may want necessaries , though your Coffers are full , which ( pardon me if I yet tell you ) have been ever much emptier than you your selves pretended : and besides , none are sooner reduced to extremity , than atrading people once out of their method and bias . I must acknowledge as to my particular concerns , I was extreamly glad at the Peace of Breda , and believed also you would remember the danger you risqued in that War , having nothing in the least to satisfie your losses , but the Accident at Chatham , when we were wholly unprovided ; and which you know we could have quickly redressed by a new Fleet , had not we then concluded with you . I say , I was glad of this Peace , but little dreamed to hear complaints on our Exchange immediately upon it ; That you durst vaunt in your Gazetts to have forced several Princes in the East-Indies to forbid us their Trade ; and that in the West-Indies our Colonies at Surinam were still detained , and not suffered to come home according to our late and solemn Treaty . Several other of your injuries and scorns were dayly told me , but none moved me inwardly more , I confess , than Bracke's his publick affront ( who pretending to have broken the Chain at Shereness , and done all the other exploits in that enterprise ) did in many places in the Streights ( and especially at Genoa , Legorn and Zant ) invite the Dutch Factory aboard him , clapping alwaies in the height of their jo●lity t●e English Colours under the Dutch ones , in token of our being Conquered , and that now we must tru●kle under you ; but as for your denying to strike Sail , I was not in the least concerned , looking upon it as a madness , and that the Devil ( as your Politico , you say , confessed ) owed you a shame ; otherwise you could never be incited to deny us a Right ( which for its infinite consequences , we value beyond expression ) even at that very time , when no body did or could defend you from the fury of France , but our selves . Nothing 't is true is more visible than the strange animosity and hatred , which your fac totum ( as you call him ) and his friends bore us ; yet I am so candid to his Memory as to be half perswaded , that the greatest part of his Treason , was the neglecting of the advice , which the old Prince of Orange left the State on his Death-bed : viz. To keep friendship with England upon any terms , and That your standing Army should ever consist for the far greatest part of mercenary Neighbours , and not of your own Subjects and Countreymen : for what could be expected but the surrendring of Towns as fast as summoned , when the Souldiers minded trade more than their business , and when their Officers were both ignorant what an Enemy was , and disheartned by the cryes of their Wives and Children ? But this Councel was contrary to the Designs of your democratical and self-interested Party , who know , Souldiers of Fortune will depend on their General , and that they should never domineer at the Helm , whilst this Great Commander had such power . I think no man ought to wonder at our Kings inclination and zeal , for the establishment of his Nephew ; which , let me tell you , we English look upon in a manner as his Right ; for , was it fit , do you imagine , that so mighty a Monarch as the King of Great Brittain , should marry his Daughter to that Prince , were it not by a kind of custome of Nations ( as we see in Poland , Hungary , the Empire &c. or by the private promises of your States assured , that their Children should enjoy the honours of their Ancestors ; and if you once come to Gratitude , what people was ever more obliged , than you by this great and Princely Family . I dare beleive you , that your Rulers were afraid of our engrossing all trade , since it has often with envy been repeated , that from 4 or 5 rich Merchants in the last Century , we have now an Exchange even crowded with such , that do , or at least are able to keep their Coach , and all things else proportionable . Let me also add ( to what I have already urged ) this one advantage more we have over you : viz. A plentiful Countrey by nature , so that we depend not wholly upon Trade , whereas , you that are altogether its slaves , must by any ill accident , undergo great molestation and disturbance . And herein also you are extreamly unfortunate , that though you know you are ever to be beholden to your Neighbours , yet that Pride of yours which Riches create , will still make you recalcitrate and disoblige your best and surest friends . Your present miseries , I am sure , convince you sufficiently of your base usage of us from time to time ; and that you have now forced us ( contrary to the natural inclination of either Prince or People ) to be as well your Destroyers as Founders ; and yet we would have defended you ( had you but deserved it ) with the same ease from this present attaque of France , as formerly we did from the fury of the powerful Spaniards . England you think has some particular Mysteries in it , which often deceive forreign Ministers ; and truly I am much of your sentiment , for I never heard more extravagancies and wronger observations in my life , than by Strangers concerning our Government and Policy : nay they have been so wedded to their opinion , and especially about the power of the Parliament , that all the assurances that knowing men of our Countrey could give them to the contrary , served only to confirm and harden them , and among this Sect of Polititians , tell me I beseech you , who was more obstinate than your self ? For how often have I told you ( though to little purpose ) That this Great Councel , this Epitome of all England , had no life but what it received from its Prince ; That it met only when he would , and again dissolved at the least motion of his lips ; That being congregated from all parts of the Kingdome , it must needs know our several maladies , and having humby proposed the remedy , leaves alwayes the fall determination to the wisdome of their Soveraign ; That our Monarchs having received from their People the greatest free Demesne and Revenue of any Potentate in Christendom , had graciously promised thereupon never to take any mony from us without our own tendering of it , and yet it was never known when publick Necessities call'd ( though the Royal Exchequer has also its own Rivers of Plenty ) but that this Auguste Assembly was ever more liberal in its offerings , than our Princes could be in their Demands . In short , Sir , you now know what the Kings of England can do , and confess that the world at length acknowledges its errour . But why do I repeat the mistakes of you Strangers in our more difficult and speculative matters , since you daily contradict even your external senses : for to this very moment shew me one Traveller in ten thousand , that calls London any more than one long Street ; whenas there 's hardly in the World a rounder and compacter City within its walls : and as for the Suburbs , do you but consider whether from the Thames to Southampton-house be so contemptible a bredth ; and yet I might add to this ( as they do in other places ) the River , and whatsoever lies on the other side of it . 'T was therefore not ill observ'd by those among you , [ who cry'd ( as you say ) you had been always mistaken in your measures concerning us , even when you thought your selves most sure : and doubtless De Witt himself would have been of that opinion , had it not diametrically thwarted his Interest ; and we see that an earnest and passionate inclination to a thing , often vitiates the greatest understanding and capacity : for how could he imagine ( had he been in his seuses ) that any little pique between us and the French ( which for these several years has had no other grounds but their vain humour in over-valuing themselves ) could make us rather submit to the continual and real injuries we sustained by you , than joyn with them for Reparation ? If in this our conjunction you are conquered , we shall certainly have a share and proportion of the booty ; nor will such an addition do us any harm . But , by the way , suppose France should alone , and to its own use subjugate your Country yet I look not , I confess , upon such an incorporation and union ( though it seem a Paradox ) half so able to offend England , as were you only bona fide , confederated against us : and we know in part by the last War , what such a League can do . For first , the Discipline of the French ( who are so volatile by nature ) will be ten times more lax by the extent of their Dominions , than at present ; and if they should chance to have a careless , or less active Prince , they 'l presently full into intestine disorder & confusion : nor was there ever since the Creation of the World , a potent people in a Continent ( which is the true Seat for an Empire ) that can show fewer marks of their bravery than they ; for though they have been alwaies in War , and a most powerfull Monarchy time out of minde , yet have they not one foot of Land out of France it self , except what they have got within these few years ; and which in truth is not yet worth the speaking of . In the next place , no body must imagine that the Shipping of Holland will be the sixt part so considerable after the Conquest , as now it is ; for the domineering temper of French Governours , and the obstinate self-will'd Genius of your people ( that have been so long free as they call it ) are so different , that most will rather beg than stay at home ; and they that do chance to remain , will presently change in a manner their whole course of living : and thus it hath fared with Dunkirk , which formerly bred up as able Sea-men as any were in Europe ; yet now it has nothing in it considerable , though this present excellent King be a greater Encourager of all Maritime Affairs than will sit , I dare say , on his Throne these many and many Ages . But all this is but a fancy , as I said before , and though false , yet as true as some of the whimsies of your transcendent States-men , who were pleased to imagine England so foolish as to think the joyning with His Christian Majesty would prejudice the Protestant Cause ; and yet your selves might innocently forsooth league with this very Monarch against us : besides , every body saw that neither we , nor you , nor any reformed State in Christendom apprehended then the least detriment to our Religion by it ▪ and therefore , why I pray should it be otherwise now ? As for the postponing the Bankers , I never doubted but it would surprize your Grandees ; and it was well reflected upon by some of you , that Kings find still Expedients when others little dream of them : nor was yet this a far-fetch't one , since there have been few Monarchies or States that have not done at one time or other the very same thing ; nay , were your Bank at Amsterdam call'd upon , 't will be found that in our memory it never had enough in specie to satisfie half its credit . And as your Wise ones erred in the thing it self , so they may also well do it in their Conjectural consequences ; for ( believe me ) the Crown will never want Lenders when it really stands in need of them ; nor , can any man that has thus put out his money ( except a few that may have had perchance some present occasion ) be the least inconvenienced thereby , having for security the word of this King , the interest of his Successors , and the Reputation even of the Kingdom it self , which will never let so many good Subjects suffer , when their money ( or what should have reimburs'd them ) was spent in a necessary War for the honour and safety of us all . 'T is the Sea , which surrounding us , keeps us from danger ; and 't is therefore the Dominion of it which al our Princes have so c●refully lookt after ; for if to shew our Jurisdiction 't was ever lawful to oblige your single Ships to strike to our least Man of War , we have stil the same Reason and Justice to require it from your Fleet ; since your whole Navy has no more Right in these Seas , then any one of your Vessels when it is alone ; and if number and strength may pretend ( as you say ) to exemptions , that plainly declares War , and by it you own your selves Aggressors . This was the cause that we set on your Smirna Fleet , w●hch absolutely denied to pay us this duty : and if five of our Frigats were not able to take 50 ▪ Merchant Ships mounted with 20 and 30 Guns apiece , yet they suffic'd , with three more that came afterwards in , to sink your Reer Admiral , and to bring home some of the richest as Prizes , in spight of eight Men of War that convey'd them : And pray remember , you were here again Breakers of the Peace , seeing he that denies a Prince his usual Priviledges , declares ipso facto War against him , let them be before never so strictly leagued together . These extravagant and accumulative injuries have at length caus'd a breach , the effects of which ( as was expected ) you already with sorrow feel , not daring now to put to Sea any Men of War , if there be the least probability of meeting ours : And truly for my part , though I commend alwayes the ingenuity and artifice of an enemy , yet I can by no means think your late setting upon us at Sould Bay , deserves the name of contrivance , because all Fleets must be at Anchor if they take in necessaries ; and when they are so , any enemy ( the wind blowing fair ) may have this so frequent and ordinary advantage . There 's no fence against this accident but Scouts , and ours gave us the alarm two hours before your arrival , and you soon found what resistance our very Vantguard could make ; and had not we lost the most noble and famoms Earl of Sandwich ( whom nothing but a Fire-ship could master ) this rencounter had been to us nothing but a pass-time , in which notwithstanding you lost I dare affirm , neer double the number of what has been very publickly owned by you . But , though you had even then a strange mist , and other happy hitts to stand between you and utter ruin , as also afterwards a three months storm ( as you justly call it ) for the protection of your East-India Fleet , yet I know the proudest of you are now convinc'd that there 's no dealing with us ; and truly when I consider our Ships , our Men , our Commanders , and above all , our great Admiral ( who has given the world such proofs of his prodigious Valour and Patience , Virtues that at last will conquer even Fortune it self ) I may without vanity , I think , and with all the Justice maginable say , we need never fear any thing here in England but our sins . As for Liberty of Conscience , 't is no marvel if it were De Witts nicking blow ; for doubtless no one thing ever setled a distracted Country in so much Unity as this . His Majesty for 12 years together suffered the Laws to be often severely executed against all Dissenters without exceptions , which had no other effect , but to incense most of them so far against the Government , that they had no manner of regard or tenderness for it , nay many ( like sick men that vainly expect ease by change ) rejoyc'd at ill news , and seemed earnestly to wish our ruine ; and doubtless were not Great Brittain an Island , we had been over-run long ago . But now on the contrary , no people speak more reverently of the King than they ; nor do I know any one Sect here among us ( though I am surrounded with their Meeting-houses ) that has committed the least scandal since this his Royal Grace and Freedom . And now whilst it is in my head , let me tell you , that if the Rotterdam Quaker turn'd Hector upon notice of this Indulgence , it had such efficacy over his Brethren here , that whilst it was but in projection they suddainly became Wits , and ventured to jeer the Players themselves , their piquant and sworn Enemies . For the King's Theatre hapening to be fir'd , with many hundred pounds loss to the single share of Mr. Hart , an Actor ; One of these Spiritual Drolls being ask't at their Assembly next day , what news was stiring ? None friend , ( said he ) that I know ▪ but that the King's Meeting-house is burnt ; and so gave the joyful Auditory a full account of all particulars : Nay then ( replyed the Demandant ) we need no longer fear those blasphemers of the Saints ; for now without doubt their Heart is broken . But to come to your Qu●re concerning the duration of this Grace , be pleas'd to understand , that though there be among our wise and learned Clergy some Demetrius's that value their Diana , and private concerns before the Tranquility and Settlement of the Nation , yet these ( which is the happiness of it ) are so inconsiderable in every respect , that you may assure your friends , 't will never be in their power to perswade his Majesty to recall his Declaration , which all men of parts do now aknowledge to be the Bond of Peace and Unity among us . Nor need you fear that any Congregation will be excluded , because it frustrates the very intention of the Favour , by affrighting all Dissenters whatsoever ; for if any party be excepted , it must be because they are not considerable enough to be apprehended by the Government ; and then will the weakest of the Tolerated take the Alarm , and so from one to another 't will presently infect the whole Body in general . For which Sect can assure themselves but that from a numerous Party ( since Religion also has its ebbings and flowings ) they may soon become Christ's little flock ; and if so , they are certain beforehand to find no Mercy . Such an Exclusion also is wholly opposite to the King's Honour and Interest , his merciful Disposition and Temper having gain'd him the affection of the Non-Conformists , and is the grand thing on which they all rely ; for Political Indulgence ( they say ) may change with every wind , but what Nature has established ought to be look'd upon as fixed and permanent . But how comes it to pass unless you continue overvaluing your selves , and taking wrong informations of us , that you think we are the only Wranglers in Christendom about Religion . I must again assure you , you have very ill intelligence ; for we now understand , as well as the rest of the World , that true Protestant Doctrine , viz. That all Well-living Christians may be saved , and therefore with reason defie those that persecute for Conscience , which the Judicious also find to be the true cause of the spawning and growth of Sects . For be pleased to know , that though we have abounded in all other opinions imaginable , yet no man ever heard of an English Lutheran ; and truly could I have notice of such a wonder , I would ( as old as I am ) go 20 miles afoot to see him . Now I hope you do not believe that Henry the 8th's Book against that Patriarch , did so absolutely convince the Nation , that it could never since digest his Tenets ; for , were this the cause , what would have become of us all , had Calvin received a broad-side also ? No Sir , the reason is evident , to wit , he never drew blood from the one , or made the least Law against him , whereas he so worried the Disciples of the other with his 2 leash of Articles , that the Doctrine became as fixed as Tyburn , the Post they were so often baited at . Thus dealt also Queen Elizabeth and her Brother with our Anabaptists and the then Sectaries , drawing from them that blood which might have endangered their suffocation . Nay , in the like manner served she our Jesuites , for having caught Campian ( who , together with his companion , were the two first , as Cambden tells us , that ever came into England ) he was no sooner quartered , but from a few wandring Scholars without Stock , without Houses , without Patrons , and absolutely beholden to other Provinces , they became presently ( even by assistance of Parsons , who was he that escaped ) not only to be a body of their own , but Masters also of Colledges in Spain , Rome , Flanders , and where not ? and courted ever after by several great Princes of Christendom . And now that our Papists come in my way , who have I must tell you , ( for you cannot outdo us in any thing ) shewed as much Loyalty here , as your own at home ; I say , now that we speak of these Papists , they also demonstrate not a little methinks , that Religions gain force by Persecution , especially seeing Holborn ( the grand Road of those they stile Martyrs ) hath with its inletts more of that perswsion , than any ten Streets , pick them where you will , throughout the City . Therefore ( as a Corollary from this Theoreme ) when I hear any man earnestly talk of suppressing of Sects , and that all decency and Ecclesiastical order will otherwise fall ( fancies which his little private concerns prompt him to ) I presently advise him to get two or three Sir Johns of his Party hang'd , and that I 'le hang afterwards if ever then we want either Tippet , Rochet , Cope , Organ , or any other such like weighty and fundamental parts of Religion . In short , Sir , our eyes are opened , and we find that all Opinions in power have still used severities against their Adversaries , and therefore none ought to blame his fellow , seeing we have all erred and strayed , and followed too much the devices and desires of our own hearts ; for thus did Henry the eight , thus did Edward the sixth , thus did Queen Mary , thus did Queen Elizabeth , thus did King James , thus did King Charles the first , thus did the Long Parliament , thus did the Rump , but thus will not King Charles the Second do any more , who knows by experience as well as inclination what a virtue Mercy is ; and really it vexes me to see even Papists themselves call us into the list , and offer to shew , that we have executed more of theirs for Religion , than they of ours ; adding as an alleviation on their side , That it is less cruelty in any man to destroy egs in their hatching , than a Covey that is pen-feathered , and at its full growth : but now , as I said , our eyes are opened , and both they and you shall find we English understand good nature , and that Non saremo sempre Polachi , We will not alwaies be Polanders , who ( besides their innate folly proverbially said to their charge by Italians ) could yet lately quarrel with one another even when the Turk himself was in the midst of them . 'T is your Countrymen that are , in truth , our Turks , and perchance as faithless as they , yet this difference is betwixt you , that they have got as many Provinces , as you have now lost , though both happened by the same means , that is , by breaking Solemn Oaths and Promises . One command more I am to obey you in , and then I have done ; and that is in giving you an account of the present State of the Country , which in gross I assure you is the same as formerly , but in Affection and Concord much better ; nor has any one Prophesy or Prediction of your partial Juncto even yet happened to us . Some Merchants of ours have lost , 't is true ; yet yours , though they durst not venture out to Sea , have felt the fury at home , not only of Water , but of Fire also ; as you will find by your Letters , which ( like Job's several Messengers ) have , I question not , brought you worse and worse tydings , since the writing of your last . Nor will your people ( I 'le be bound ) ever hereafter boast of the gain or advantage had by Capers , it being so like to that of our Carters and Porters , whilst the City was on fire , who got for the present sufficient for Brandy , but were ready to starve the following week , when not only their new but their old employment also ceased . God send you a good Peace , & give you grace to accept it , if it be offered , which may perchance hinder your utter ruine ; for otherwise there will be an Army , I can assure you , of above an hundred thousand Fresh men within your bowels next Summer , and a greater Fleet of ours than ever , blocking up your Havens under his Royal Command , who has already twice defeated you . I have tyred you , Sir , sufficiently , though with truth , and therefore I will now stop here , after I have assured you , that nothing shall ever lessen my kindness and respects for you ; and that upon all occasions I will be , Your most Faithfull Friend and Servant , J. G. London , January 16. 1672 / 3.