A true relation of a company of Brownists, separatists, and nonconformists, in Monmouthshire in Wales. With the manner of their doctrine, christnings, vveddings, and burialls. Together vvith a relation of the knavery that some of their teachers practised to enrich themselves withall. The truth whereof will be justified by sundry people of good quality inhabiting in the said county. / By Edward Harris.
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             A true relation of a company of Brownists, separatists, and nonconformists, in Monmouthshire in Wales. With the manner of their doctrine, christnings, vveddings, and burialls. Together vvith a relation of the knavery that some of their teachers practised to enrich themselves withall. The truth whereof will be justified by sundry people of good quality inhabiting in the said county. / By Edward Harris.
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           A
           TRVE
           RELATION
           OF
           A
           Company
           of
           Brownists
           ,
           Separatists
           ,
           and
           Non-Conformists
           ,
           
             In
             Monmouthshire
             in
             Wales
             .
          
           With
           the
           manner
           of
           their
           Doctrine
           ,
           Christnings
           ,
           VVeddings
           ,
           and
           Burialls
           .
           
             TOGETHER
          
           VVith
           a
           Relation
           of
           the
           knavery
           that
           some
           of
           their
           Teachers
           practised
           to
           enrich
           themselves
           withall
           .
           The
           truth
           whereof
           will
           be
           justified
           by
           sundry
           people
           of
           good
           quality
           inhabiting
           in
           the
           said
           County
           .
        
         
           By
           
             Edward
             Harris
             .
          
        
         
           Printed
           in
           the
           yeare
           1641.
           
        
      
    
     
       
       
         
           A
           TRVE
           RELATION
           OF
           A
           company
           of
           Brownists
           ,
           Separatists
           ,
           and
           Non-conformists
           in
           Monmouth
           shire
           in
           WALES
           .
        
         
           IN
           the
           County
           of
           Monmouth
           in
           Wales
           ,
           in
           divers
           parts
           a
           number
           of
           Non-conformists
           being
           assembled
           together
           ,
           not
           regarding
           in
           what
           place
           they
           meet
           ,
           whether
           in
           field
           ,
           garden
           ,
           orchard
           ,
           barne
           ,
           kitchin
           ,
           or
           high
           waies
           ,
           being
           (
           as
           they
           teach
           )
           as
           available
           to
           their
           devotion
           as
           the
           Church
           :
           where
           by
           their
           doctrine
           they
           perswade
           their
           auditory
           to
           contemne
           the
           prayers
           of
           the
           Church
           ,
           and
           the
           Preachers
           of
           the
           Gospell
           ;
           also
           avowing
           their
           owne
           zealous
           prayers
           to
           have
           such
           power
           with
           God
           ,
           as
           that
           they
           dare
           chalenge
           him
           
             extempore
             .
          
           By
           which
           leud
           perswasion
           of
           theirs
           they
           have
           drawne
           divers
           honest
           mens
           wives
           in
           the
           night
           times
           to
           frequent
           their
           Assemblies
           ,
           and
           to
           become
           of
           most
           loose
           and
           wicked
           conversation
           ,
           and
           likewise
           many
           chast
           Virgins
           to
           become
           harlots
           ,
           and
           the
           mothers
           of
           bastards
           ;
           holding
           it
           no
           sinne
           for
           a
           brother
           to
           lye
           with
           a
           brothers
           wife
           ;
           as
           also
           a
           virgin
           gotten
           with
           childe
           by
           a
           brother
           not
           to
           be
           the
           worse
           ,
           but
           by
           another
           ,
           then
           by
           the
           wicked
           ,
           and
           so
           consequently
           a
           sinne
           .
        
         
           
           
             
               And
               first
               of
               Christenings
               ;
            
             
               Which
               is
               that
               the
               Father
               shall
               bring
               his
               child
               to
               such
               of
               that
               sect
               as
               shall
               professe
               himselfe
               to
               be
               a
               minister
               ,
               who
               shall
               take
               the
               child
               into
               his
               hands
               and
               wish
               the
               Father
               to
               name
               him
               ,
               and
               being
               named
               ,
               the
               Minister
               useth
               to
               cut
               the
               child
               in
               the
               eare
               untill
               it
               shall
               bleed
               ,
               and
               then
               after
               (
               delivering
               the
               child
               to
               the
               Father
               )
               saith
               ,
               by
               such
               a
               name
               thou
               child
               shall
               be
               called
               ;
               in
               which
               action
               they
               use
               neither
               the
               sprinkling
               of
               water
               ,
               signe
               of
               the
               crosse
               ,
               God
               fathers
               nor
               God
               mothers
               ,
               nor
               any
               of
               the
               prayers
               in
               the
               Common
               prayer
               booke
               appointed
               to
               be
               used
               for
               that
               purpose
               ;
               and
               they
               will
               allow
               of
               no
               churching
               of
               women
               by
               any
               meanes
               .
            
          
           
             
               The
               manner
               of
               their
               Mariages
            
             
               Is
               ,
               that
               he
               that
               taketh
               upon
               him
               the
               place
               of
               a
               Minister
               ,
               shall
               aske
               the
               man
               that
               is
               to
               be
               married
               ,
               if
               he
               wil
               have
               such
               a
               maide
               or
               woman
               to
               be
               his
               wedded
               wife
               ,
               who
               saying
               that
               he
               will
               ,
               hee
               also
               usually
               asketh
               the
               woman
               that
               is
               to
               bee
               married
               if
               that
               she
               will
               have
               that
               man
               to
               be
               her
               husband
               ,
               who
               saying
               that
               she
               will
               ;
               then
               their
               Minister
               will
               usuall
               say
               ,
               goe
               together
               and
               multiply
               ;
               in
               which
               action
               they
               never
               use
               the
               plighting
               of
               troth
               ,
               ring
               ,
               praiers
               ,
               or
               ceremonies
               whatsoever
               .
            
          
           
             
               Of
               Burialls
               .
            
             
               They
               wil
               allow
               of
               no
               praiers
               or
               ceremonies
               at
               all
               at
               the
               burying
               of
               the
               dead
               ,
               but
               give
               directions
               that
               the
               body
               be
               throwne
               into
               a
               pit
               ,
               much
               like
               a
               thing
               nothing
               worth
               :
               And
               being
               that
               these
               sects
               in
               all
               things
               are
               inclined
               to
               maintaine
               contradictions
               as
               is
               before
               said
               ,
               touching
               the
               points
               of
               salvation
               ,
               so
               they
               will
               in
               all
               other
               things
               ;
               And
               
                 (
                 inter
                 alia
                 )
              
               command
               the
               dead
               to
               bee
               
               laid
               in
               the
               ground
               acrosse
               the
               Church
               or
               Churchyard
               ,
               or
               with
               their
               heads
               toward
               the
               East
               ,
               but
               never
               with
               their
               feete
               Eastward
               ,
               as
               the
               ancient
               custome
               was
               .
            
          
        
         
           
             Of
             a
             Pavier
             (
             being
             one
             of
             the
             zealous
             Brothers
             ,
             seeing
             one
             of
             the
             Pastors
             of
             that
             sect
             get
             
               20.
               l
               ’
               .
            
             under
             colour
             of
             cancelling
             of
             sins
             )
             that
             by
             his
             owne
             practice
             in
             the
             like
             nature
             got
             
               3.
               
            
             Cheeses
             and
             
               9.
               l
               ’
            
             and
             by
             an
             accident
             escapt
             hanging
             in
             the
             earning
             therof
             ,
             as
             followeth
             .
          
           
             The
             Pavier
             or
             zealous
             brother
             ,
             being
             very
             intimate
             with
             the
             grand
             Doctors
             of
             that
             unsanctified
             discipline
             ,
             and
             being
             privy
             to
             most
             of
             their
             waies
             and
             secrets
             ,
             and
             hearing
             it
             taught
             at
             one
             of
             their
             Coventicles
             or
             meetings
             ,
             that
             it
             was
             a
             great
             sinne
             for
             a
             woman
             to
             conceale
             any
             mony
             from
             her
             husband
             (
             which
             exercise
             being
             finished
             )
             one
             of
             the
             women
             of
             that
             auditory
             acquainted
             the
             Teacher
             ,
             that
             she
             was
             guilty
             of
             that
             sinne
             ,
             in
             regard
             that
             she
             concealed
             20.
             l
             ’
             .
             from
             her
             husband
             ,
             &
             demanded
             what
             she
             should
             doe
             to
             be
             forgiven
             of
             that
             sinne
             ,
             who
             commanded
             her
             to
             bring
             the
             mony
             to
             him
             ,
             promising
             so
             to
             dispose
             thereof
             amongst
             the
             people
             ,
             that
             her
             offence
             in
             that
             behalfe
             should
             be
             pardoned
             ,
             which
             the
             simple
             woman
             did
             ,
             whereby
             she
             and
             the
             poore
             were
             cosened
             by
             a
             knave
             .
          
           
             
               How
               the
               Pavier
               taking
               this
               president
               of
               the
               holy
               man
               of
               God
               his
               practice
               ,
               cozened
               three
               women
               of
               their
               cheeses
               .
            
             
               Who
               speedily
               repaired
               unto
               three
               rich
               women
               of
               his
               neighbours
               (
               that
               he
               knew
               to
               be
               well
               stored
               with
               good
               cheese
               which
               he
               wanted
               )
               and
               made
               them
               believe
               that
               they
               were
               such
               heynous
               sinners
               against
               God
               ,
               that
               if
               speedy
               meanes
               should
               not
               be
               made
               for
               the
               remission
               thereof
               ,
               they
               were
               in
               the
               state
               of
               damnation
               ;
               whereat
               the
               poore
               women
               being
               put
               into
               a
               great
               fright
               
               earnestly
               besought
               the
               Pavier
               (
               who
               they
               conceived
               to
               be
               a
               learned
               man
               full
               of
               sanctitie
               and
               a
               detester
               of
               vice
               )
               to
               find
               out
               how
               Gods
               wrath
               might
               be
               appeased
               ,
               and
               their
               sinnes
               remitted
               ;
               who
               (
               after
               much
               intreatie
               and
               promises
               of
               rewards
               )
               told
               the
               women
               that
               first
               they
               should
               confesse
               their
               sinnes
               ,
               and
               that
               according
               to
               the
               quantity
               thereof
               ,
               meanes
               should
               be
               made
               for
               the
               remission
               therof
               :
               and
               being
               demanded
               how
               and
               to
               whom
               their
               transgressions
               should
               bee
               acknowledged
               whereby
               the
               quality
               therof
               might
               be
               evident
               ,
               wished
               each
               of
               them
               to
               fetch
               him
               down
               a
               cheese
               of
               the
               biggest
               they
               had
               ,
               and
               scales
               to
               weigh
               them
               in
               ,
               which
               being
               weighed
               and
               notice
               taken
               of
               the
               weight
               thereof
               ;
               the
               Pavier
               did
               cut
               a
               round
               circle
               in
               the
               middle
               of
               every
               one
               of
               the
               cheeses
               ,
               and
               tooke
               out
               the
               cheese
               within
               those
               circles
               in
               lumps
               unbroken
               ;
               insomuch
               that
               there
               was
               a
               round
               hole
               in
               the
               middle
               of
               every
               of
               the
               said
               cheeses
               almost
               through
               ;
               and
               thereupon
               the
               Pavier
               delivered
               every
               woman
               her
               owne
               cheese
               againe
               charging
               every
               of
               them
               by
               the
               next
               morning
               to
               confesse
               all
               their
               sinnes
               in
               those
               holes
               and
               that
               he
               would
               then
               come
               to
               them
               ,
               and
               in
               the
               meane
               time
               would
               goe
               home
               and
               pray
               for
               them
               ,
               and
               study
               meanes
               for
               the
               remitting
               of
               their
               iniquities
               ,
               and
               did
               take
               home
               with
               him
               the
               lumps
               taken
               out
               of
               the
               cheese
               ,
               and
               cut
               off
               all
               the
               cheese
               thereof
               neere
               from
               the
               rine
               ,
               and
               made
               round
               lumps
               of
               lead
               fit
               for
               the
               filling
               of
               them
               holes
               ,
               which
               he
               took
               in
               his
               pocket
               the
               next
               morning
               ,
               and
               comming
               to
               the
               women
               ,
               they
               brought
               their
               cheeses
               to
               him
               ,
               saying
               that
               they
               had
               confessed
               all
               their
               misdeeds
               that
               they
               could
               remember
               that
               ever
               they
               did
               ,
               whereupon
               the
               Pavier
               wished
               them
               to
               fetch
               scales
               thither
               to
               weigh
               the
               cheeses
               ,
               and
               in
               the
               meane
               time
               cunningly
               clapt
               the
               lead
               into
               the
               holes
               which
               he
               covered
               with
               the
               rine
               of
               cheese
               that
               he
               had
               in
               his
               pocket
               ,
               which
               (
               being
               weighed
               )
               fame
               exceeded
               the
               weight
               they
               were
               of
               the
               day
               before
               ,
               whereby
               the
               Pavier
               expressed
               unto
               them
               ,
               that
               the
               quality
               of
               their
               sinnes
               appeared
               to
               be
               so
               great
               ,
               that
               if
               speedy
               meanes
               wore
               not
               eftsoones
               observed
               for
               the
               remitting
               thereof
               ,
               doubtlesse
               they
               should
               prese
               
               them
               downe
               to
               hell
               ,
               and
               therefore
               the
               Pavier
               for
               to
               banish
               the
               multitude
               of
               their
               confessed
               sinnes
               from
               off
               the
               face
               of
               the
               earth
               ,
               tooke
               the
               cheeses
               and
               threw
               them
               over
               a
               great
               bridge
               into
               a
               great
               river
               called
               Eboy
               ,
               wherehence
               the
               Paviers
               wife
               and
               children
               by
               his
               directions
               tooke
               them
               up
               and
               feasted
               upon
               them
               a
               goodwhiles
               after
               .
            
          
           
             
               What
               meanes
               the
               Pavier
               prescribed
               to
               have
               the
               Womens
               sinnes
               forgiven
               ,
               and
               how
               he
               cozned
               them
               of
               9.
               
                 l
                 ’
                 .
              
               by
               promising
               to
               die
               for
               their
               sinnes
               and
               how
               be
               was
               like
               to
               be
               hanged
               by
               a
               boy
               in
               earning
               the
               mony
               .
            
             
               Vpon
               a
               serious
               conference
               betwene
               the
               Pavier
               and
               the
               women
               ,
               he
               made
               it
               appeare
               unto
               them
               that
               every
               sinne
               was
               mortall
               and
               that
               therefore
               there
               ought
               to
               be
               a
               death
               before
               those
               sinnes
               could
               be
               blotted
               out
               of
               the
               sight
               of
               God
               ;
               whereat
               the
               women
               being
               in
               a
               perplexity
               not
               knowing
               what
               to
               say
               ,
               desired
               him
               to
               invent
               some
               other
               way
               whereby
               they
               might
               save
               their
               lives
               ,
               and
               promised
               to
               give
               any
               content
               ;
               wherupon
               the
               Pavier
               standing
               stedfast
               upon
               his
               former
               words
               ,
               told
               them
               that
               there
               must
               be
               a
               death
               had
               before
               God
               would
               bee
               satisfied
               for
               their
               transgressions
               ,
               and
               that
               he
               loved
               them
               so
               well
               that
               he
               for
               a
               reasonanable
               reward
               would
               die
               for
               them
               rather
               then
               they
               should
               remaine
               in
               the
               state
               of
               damnation
               for
               their
               misdeeds
               ,
               whereat
               the
               women
               became
               very
               joyfull
               ,
               giving
               him
               many
               thanks
               ,
               brought
               three
               pound
               a
               peece
               ,
               which
               he
               received
               ,
               and
               was
               the
               only
               thing
               he
               aimed
               at
               ,
               and
               presently
               thereupon
               tooke
               a
               little
               stoole
               and
               a
               rope
               with
               him
               into
               an
               upper
               room
               in
               one
               of
               the
               womens
               houses
               where
               spying
               a
               crosse
               beame
               tyed
               the
               rope
               about
               it
               ,
               making
               it
               ready
               for
               to
               be
               hanged
               therein
               ,
               for
               to
               purchase
               a
               pardon
               for
               the
               womens
               transgressions
               .
            
             
               Whereupon
               he
               (
               together
               with
               the
               women
               ,
               having
               joyned
               in
               fervent
               prayers
               )
               stood
               upon
               the
               stoole
               ,
               and
               telling
               them
               that
               the
               spirit
               was
               then
               strong
               with
               him
               ,
               did
               put
               the
               rope
               about
               his
               
               necke
               ,
               and
               wished
               the
               women
               to
               goe
               into
               the
               next
               roome
               ,
               and
               pray
               for
               his
               happinesse
               in
               so
               great
               a
               taske
               .
               And
               when
               as
               they
               should
               heare
               him
               groane
               ,
               they
               should
               helpe
               him
               downe
               ,
               for
               that
               by
               that
               time
               satisfaction
               would
               bee
               made
               ,
               and
               their
               sinnes
               absolutely
               forgiven
               .
               And
               so
               away
               the
               women
               went
               as
               he
               had
               bid
               them
               ,
               leaving
               him
               upon
               the
               stoole
               with
               the
               rope
               about
               his
               necke
               ;
               instantly
               thereupon
               a
               sonne
               of
               the
               woman
               of
               the
               house
               (
               being
               a
               pretty
               big
               youth
               ,
               in
               regard
               of
               much
               whispering
               that
               he
               spied
               up
               and
               downe
               the
               house
               ,
               stealing
               up
               staires
               to
               see
               the
               mystery
               thereof
               )
               saw
               the
               Pavier
               standing
               upon
               the
               top
               of
               a
               stoole
               ,
               with
               his
               backe
               towards
               him
               ,
               and
               his
               necke
               in
               a
               rope
               ,
               and
               in
               a
               manner
               playing
               therewith
               :
               at
               the
               sight
               whereof
               the
               youth
               calling
               to
               minde
               that
               the
               Pavier
               had
               been
               a
               meanes
               to
               procure
               him
               to
               be
               whipt
               at
               schoole
               divers
               times
               for
               playing
               at
               Tennis
               and
               Cat
               upon
               the
               Sunday
               ,
               intended
               to
               be
               revenged
               upon
               him
               then
               ,
               and
               suddenly
               shifted
               the
               stoole
               from
               under
               the
               Paviers
               feet
               ,
               and
               runne
               away
               ,
               leaving
               him
               there
               swinging
               ,
               in
               a
               way
               indeed
               to
               performe
               what
               he
               had
               undertaken
               .
               But
               the
               women
               being
               near
               unto
               him
               ,
               and
               hearing
               him
               schreech
               ,
               speedily
               runne
               to
               him
               ,
               and
               by
               much
               adoe
               made
               a
               shift
               to
               save
               his
               life
               .
               Now
               for
               the
               womens
               paines
               in
               hindring
               the
               Pavier
               to
               performe
               what
               hee
               had
               undertaken
               ,
               I
               could
               finde
               in
               my
               heart
               in
               a
               manner
               to
               wish
               them
               the
               successe
               that
               the
               Pavier
               should
               have
               ,
               had
               hee
               beene
               left
               alone
               ,
               and
               not
               by
               them
               hindred
               in
               his
               proceedings
               .
            
          
        
         
           FINIS
           .