The hirelings ministry none of Christs, or, A discourse touching the propagating the Gospel of Christ Jesus humbly presented to such pious and honourable hands whom the present debate thereof concerns by Roger Williams. Williams, Roger, 1604?-1683. This text is an enriched version of the TCP digital transcription A66449 of text R27074 in the English Short Title Catalog (Wing W2765). Textual changes and metadata enrichments aim at making the text more computationally tractable, easier to read, and suitable for network-based collaborative curation by amateur and professional end users from many walks of life. The text has been tokenized and linguistically annotated with MorphAdorner. The annotation includes standard spellings that support the display of a text in a standardized format that preserves archaic forms ('loveth', 'seekest'). Textual changes aim at restoring the text the author or stationer meant to publish. 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A66449) Transcribed from: (Early English Books Online ; image set 43880) Images scanned from microfilm: (Early English books, 1641-1700 ; 1346:17) The hirelings ministry none of Christs, or, A discourse touching the propagating the Gospel of Christ Jesus humbly presented to such pious and honourable hands whom the present debate thereof concerns by Roger Williams. Williams, Roger, 1604?-1683. [6], 36 p. [s.n.], London : 1652. Reproduction of original in the Harvard University Library. eng Clergy -- Office. A66449 R27074 (Wing W2765). civilwar no The hireling ministry none of Christs, or A discourse touching the propagating the Gospel of Christ Jesus. Humbly presented to such pious an Williams, Roger 1652 16173 17 0 0 0 0 0 11 C The rate of 11 defects per 10,000 words puts this text in the C category of texts with between 10 and 35 defects per 10,000 words. 2003-02 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2003-03 SPi Global Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2003-04 John Latta Sampled and proofread 2003-04 John Latta Text and markup reviewed and edited 2003-06 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion The Hireling Ministry None of CHRISTS , OR A Discourse touching the Propagating the Gospel of CHRIST JESUS . Humbly Presented to such Pious and Honourable Hands , whom the present Debate thereof concerns . By ROGER WILLIAMS of Providence in New England . London , Printed in the second Moneth , 1652. In this Discourse are briefly touched these Particulars . 1. THe Nationall and Parishional Constitution of Churches , is found to be the Grand Idoll of the Nation . 2. The inforcing of the Nation to such a constitution , is the greatest soul oppression in this Nation . 3. The Hireling Ministrie attending upon such assemblies or others , is none of the ministrie of Christ Iesus . 4. The Universities of the Nation , as subordinate and subservient to such ministries and Churches , are none of the Institutions of Christ Iesus . 5. It is the absolute duty of the civil state to set free the souls of all men from that so long oppressing yoake of such ministries and churches . Yet 6. Ought the Nation and every person in it , be permitted to see with its own eyes , and to make free choice of what worship and ministrie , and maintenance they please , whether parochial or otherwise ? 7. The Apostolical Commission ▪ and ministrie is long since interrupted and discontinued . Yet 8. Ever since the beast Antichrist rose , the Lord hath stirred up the ministrie of Prophesie , who must continue their witness , and prophesie until their witness be finished , and slaughters probably neer approching accomplished , 9. The provocation of the holy eyes is great in all courts throughout the Nation , by millions of legal oaths , which if not redressed , may yet be a fire kindled from his Iealousie ; who will not hold him guiltless which taketh his name in vain . 10. The free permitting of the consciences and meetings of conscionable and faithful people throughout the Nation , and the free permission of the Nation to frequent such assemblies , will be one of the principal . Meanes and expedients ( as the present state of Christianity stands ) for the propagating and spreading of the Gospel of the Son of God . To all such Honourable and Pious hands , whom the present Debate touching the propagating of CHRIST'S Gospel concernes : AND TO All such gentle Bereans , who with ingenious Civility desire to search whether what 's presented concerning Christ Iesus , be so or no . All humble respective Salutations . IT being a present high Debate ( Honourable and Beloved ) how the Gospel of Christ Jesus might more be propagated in this Nation : 2. And being desired by eminent friends , to cast in my mite towards it : 3. And having been engaged in several points of this Nature , in my former and later Endeavours , against that bloody Tenent of Persecution for cause of Conscience : 4. And also having been forced to observe the Goings of God , and the spirits of Men , both in Old and New England , as touching the Church , the Ministry and Ordinances of Jesus Christ ; I did humbly apprehend my Call from Heaven ; not to hide my Candle under a Bed of Ease and Pleasure , or a Bushel of Gain and Profit ; but to set it on a Candlestick of this publike Profession , for the Benefit of others , and the Praise of the Father of all Lights and Godliness . 2. For the Substance and most of this , I suddenly drew it up , and delivered two Copies unto two eminent friends of Jesus Christ , and this Nation : But being importuned for more Copies then I was possibly able to transcribe , and being ( therefore ) advised by some honourable Friends , to use the help of the Press ; I am thus beyond my first Intentions and Desires ) held forth in Publike . 3. If ought I have expressed seem harsh , dissatisfactory , or offensive ; I am humbly bold ( I hope in the power of the Most High ) to profess my readiness to discuss ; debate ; dispute ; either by Word or Writing , with whom , or before whom soever the present Debate concerns , with all Christian meekness , and due submission . 4. It is true , I do absolutely deny it ( against all commers ) to be the Burthen of the Civil State to take cognisance of any Spiritual cause ; and I do positively assert it , to be the proper and alone work of the holy Son and Spirit of God in the hands of his Saints and Prophets , to manage Heavenly and Spiritual causes ( and that only with Spiritual Weapons against Spiritual Oppositions . ) And therefore that the Higher Powers have been constantly deceived by the Mercenary and Hireling Ministry ; who being themselves deceived , deceive ; and tack about ( as the Wind , and Time , and Advantage blows ) from Popery to Protestanisme , from Protestanisme to Popery , from Popery to Protestanisme again ! From Prelacy to Presbyterie , from Presbyterie , many to Independency ; and will again to Presbyterie and Prelacy , if not to Popery ( in some cases ) rather then lose ( as they say ) the Liberty of Preaching . But what that loss is of somwhat else ( Gain , Honour , &c. ) let themselves , and all men , judge impartially in the fear of God . Yet 5. I humbly acknowledge ( as to Personal worth ) I deal with men , for many excellent gifts , elevated above the common rank of men ; yea , and for Personal Holiness ( many of them ) worthy of all true Christian Love and Honour : In which respects when I look down upon my self , I am really perswaded to acknowledge my unworthiness to hold a Candle or a Book unto them . And yet , if I give flattering Titles unto men , my Maker ( said Elihu ) would quickly take me away ; and why therefore ( since I have not been altogether a stranger to the Learning of the AEgyptians , and have trod the hopefullest paths to Worldly preferments , which for Christ's sake I have forsaken ) since I know what it is to Study , to Preach , to be an Elder , to be applauded ; and yet also what it is also to tug at the Oar , to dig with the Spade , and Plow , and to labour and travel day and night amongst English , amongst Barbarians ! ) why should I not be humbly bold to give my witness faithfully , to give my counsel effectually , and to perswade with some truly pious and conscientious spirits , rather to turn to Law , to Physick , to Souldiery , to Educating of Children , to Digging ( and yet not cease from Prophecying ) rather then to live under the slavery , yea and the censure ( from Christ Jesus and his Saints , and others also ) of a mercenary and Hireling Ministery ? 6. To which end , my humble and hearty cry is to the Father of Lights , to plead with all his Children of Light effectually ; so that they may look up , wonder , and say , Am I a Child of Light ? Is the Father of Lights my Father , and the Saints my fellow Brethren and Schollars in Christ Jesus , the children of Light also ? What make I then in dark places , like those that have been dead of old ? What make I amongst the Graves and Tombs ; the Livings , Benefices , Promotions , Stipends & c ? I have been told a quick passage between the truly Noble Earl of Essex ( in Queen Elizabeth her days ) and a truly able and zealous Non-conformist : I have said the Earl , been studying a great while these two points ; First , the Persons of the Bishops ; and I have laboured with the Queen to prefer none but good men to her Bishopricks . The next thing is their Places ; which if I find them to be as bad as their Persons be ; then , then &c. But they soon cropt off that Noble head &c. That same blessed Spirit breaths ( I doubt not ) in many heavenly spirits of our Times in Parliament , in Councel in the Army ; and their holy desire hath been to prefer the choice and flower of Able and Godly men to Places in City ▪ in Country , in University . It may yet so please the Father of Spirits , to stir up their Noble minds to meditate as well Hirelings places , as they have too well known their persons . It may also be , that his most holy and pure Eye sees they have been highly honoured , and enough already : More work is left for growing sprigs , for whom some Crownes are kept to which their Fathers heads were not so fitted . 7. And yet although I humbly give the Civil state it 's Right , to wit , to take down places or persons which themselves or Fathers have erected : yet am I also far from taking off a yoke from one , to clap on the neck of others . Let the Townes , the Parishes , and divisions of people in the three Nations be undisturbed by any civil Sword , from their consciences and worships ; though traditional , though Parochial : and let their maintenance be by Tenths and Fifths , or how they freely please . 1. Only let it be their souls choice and no inforcing Sword , but what is spiritual in their spiritual causes . 2. I plead for Impartiality and equal freedom , peace , and safety to other Consciences and Assemblies , unto which the people may as freely goe , and this according to each conscience , what conscience soever this conscience be ( not transgressing against Civilities ) whether of Jews or Gentile . Object . But would you have say some , Jews , Turks , and Papists live in Protestant countries ? I answer , I judge it here only seasonable to say , that I humbly conceive , that this objection , and all that can be said ( as to piety or policy ) is satisfied in my late unwashing of M. Cotton's washing of the Bloody Tenent : in that late endeavour , I humbly hope , I have made it evident , that no opinion in the world is comparably so bloody , or so blasphemous as that of punishing , and not permitting , in a civil way of Cohabitation , the consciences and worships , both of Jewes and Gentiles . Ireland hath been an Akeldama , a field of blood ; probable it is , that the guilt of all that blood , Protestant and Papist , will fall upon this Bloody Tenent , of which both Papist and Protestant are guilty ; to wit , of not permitting the Hereticks , the Blasphemers , &c. as the Sword falls either into the hand of a Popish or a Protestant Victor . What a voice from heaven is there , in the forepast ages of our Fathers , now rotten under us ! From Henry the second his time , when Englands first yoke was clapt on poore Irelands neck , I say from Henry the second his time , unto Henry the eight , while their consciences had freedom under popish Kings of England , how little bloud was spilt , English or Irish , compared with the showers and rivers both of one and the other , spilt in the few years of our Protestant Princes , while the consciences of the Catholicks have been restrained by the civil Sword and penalties ? Eightly , In the discourse it will appear , how greatly some mistake , which say I declame against all Ministries , all Churches , all Ordinances ; for I professedly avow and maintain , that since the Apostasie , and the interrupting of the first ministry and order , God hath graciously and immediatly stirred up and sent forth the ministrie of his Prophets , who during all the raigne of Antichrist , have prophesied in sackcloth , and the saints and people of God have more or less gathered to and assembled with them : they have praid and fasted together , and exhorted and comforted each other , and so do , notwithstanding that some are not perswaded and satisfied , ( as others conceive themselves to be ) as touching the doctrines of Baptismes , and laying on of hands . Lastly what ever be the Issue of all their publick agitations , my humble and hearty cry to the Father of mercies , is for every soul in the three Nations , that desire to fear him ; whether of higher or lower rank , that we may more and more cry and endeavour for assurance of personal reconciliation in the blood of the lambe , more and more for participation of the divine Nature in the purity and holiness of the spirit of God : more and more lament ( with Jeremy ) the division and desolations of God's people and the holy Ordinances and Worship of God in Christ Jesus ; more and more press after love and all possible communion with God's people in the midst of many differences : more and more abound in mercy and compassion to the soules and consciences ; and wofull conditions of others , Jews or Gentiles , and more and more prepared with the golden shoes of the preparation of the Gospel of peace , ready for all the good pleasure of God in Christ Jesus ; for prosperity , for adversity , for abundance , for want , for liberty , for imprisonment , for honour , for dishonour for life for death , as knowing that they that suffer with Jesus , shall not only Reigne with him , but here also in the midst of outward sorrows , be filled with Joy unspeakable , and full of Glory . Being Desired by some Loving Friends to cast in my Mite as to that Heavenly Proposition of Propagating the Gospell of Christ Iesus , I am humbly bold to Propose these Conclusions , and their Consectaries following . THe two great Prophets of Gods Revealed Councell , Moses ( the Servant ) and Christ Iesus ( the Lord ) as they have both declared unto us a Creation , a Creatour , the Shipwrack of Mankind , the Restauration , the Restorer , so have they both revealed unto us a visible Company of the holy Worshippers of this one most glorious Creatour and Redeemer , and that as for his owne most glorious praise , so in opposition to all false Gods , who also are attended with their visible Worships and Worshippers . In order to Gods visible worship the Lord Iesus hath broken downe the Wall of Division between the Iewes and the rest of the Nations of the World , and sent forth his Ministers ( Wisedomes Maidens ) unto all Nations , to bring in ( by the Gospels Invitation ) Proselites , Converts , Disciples , such as should Eternally be saved , to begin that heavenly and Eternall Communion in Heaven , here in an holy and visible Worship on the Earth . This going forth of the true Ministers of Christ Iesus is represented under the Figure of the white Troopers in the opening of the first Seale where the Lord Iesus in his first Messengers rode forth upon the White horse , or Horses of the word of truth and meeknesse ( Psal. 45. ) Conquering and to conquer in the souls of Men . Thirdly , From the 6. of the Revelations to the 19. we hear no more of those white-horsemen , that is ( as I conceive ) of the Apostles or Messengers of Iesus Christ , ( the whole streame of the Intervening Prophecies , from the 6. to the 19. insinuating a totall Routing of the Church and Ministry of Christ Iesus , put to flight , and retired into the Wildernesse of Desolation ) . Fourthly , during the dreadfull Apostacy and Desolation , the Lord hath not left the World without witnesse , but hath graciously and wonderfully stirred up his holy Prophets and Witnesses , such as were before the Waldenses more obscure , but more eminently the Waldenses , the Wicklevists , the Hussites , the Lutherans , the Calvinists ( so called ) who have as Witnesses prophecyed and mourned in Sack-cloath 1260 dayes or years ( prophetically ) I say mourned for the routing ▪ desolating of the Christian Church or Army : and panted and laboured after the most glorious Rally thereof , and Restauration . This Testimony is probably neer finished , and the Saints by their late and yet following wars ( I say probably ) must in rage the Antichristian world , so far as to provoke the Nations , to their great and generall slaughter , called the slaughter of the Witnesses , Revel. 11. After which and their shame three years and a halfe , followeth their most glorious and joyfull Rising . These Witnesses , these Prophets , are probably those one hundred forty four thousand Virgins , mysticall Israelites , twelve times twelve , which stand with the Lamb on Mount Zion , against the Romish Beast , and are the same Number sealed twelve times twelve , Revelations 7. But there is in the same seventh Chapter , a numberles Number , which no man can number , to wit , the Converts of the Nations of the world , which must yet come flowing unto Christ Iesus , after this his famous second Conquest over the Devil , the Dragon in the Romane Popes having before triumphed over him in the Romane Emperours . The World divided ( say our ablest Cosmographers ) into thirty parts , as yet but five of thirty have heard of the sweet name of Iesus a Saviour : His Messengers must yet goe forth into the other twenty five , after the downfall of the Papacie , when also at the Fullnesse of the Gentiles , or Nations comming in , shall be the joyful Raising us from the Dead of the ( Accursed , and yet Beloved Nation of the ) Iewes , Rom. 11. Revel. 18. & 19. The Civill state of the Nations being meerly and essentially civill , cannot ( Christianly ) be called Christian States , after the patterne of that holy and typical Land of Canaan , which I have proved at large in the Bloudy Tenent , to be a Non-such and an unparalel'd Figure of the Spirituall State of the Church of Christ Iesus , dispersed , yet gathered to him in all Nations . The civill Sword ( therefore ) cannot ( rightfully ) act either in Restraining the Souls of the people from Worship , &c. or in constraining them to Worship , considering that there is not a Title in the New Testament of Christ Iesus , that commits the Forming or Reforming of his Spouse and Church to the civill and worldly Powers . Seventhly , no man ever did nor ever shall truly go forth to Convert the Nations , nor to Prophecy in the present state of Witnesses , against Antichrist , but by the gracious Inspiration and Instigation of the holy Spirit of God ; according to 1 Cor. 12. where the holy Spirit discoursing of those three [ Gifts , Administrations , Operations ] tells us that No man can say that Iesus is the Lord , but by the Holy Spirit : And Revel. 11. I will give power to my two Witnesses , &c. I prejudice not an Externall Test and Call , which was at first and shall be againe in force at the Resurrection of the Churches ( as Mr. COTTON himselfe calls it in Revel. 20. ) But in the present State of things , I cannot but be humbly bold to say , that I know no other True Sender , but the most Holy Spirit . And when he sends , his Messengers will goe , his Prophets will Prophecy , though All the World should forbid them . From the former Conclusions we may first see upon what a false Sent or Word our Fathers and our selves have run as to the true Ministry appointed by Christ Iesus : How many thousand Pretenders have been and are ( Protestants and Papists ) to that Grand Commission , Matth. 28. Goe into all Nations , Teach and Baptise , & c ? In the poor small span of my Life , I desired to have been a diligent and Constant Observer , and have been my selfe many wayes engaged , in City , in Countrey , in Court , in Schools , in Vniversities , in Churches , in Old and New-England , and yet cannot in the holy presence of God bring in the Result of a satisfying discovery , that either the Begetting Ministry of the Apostles or Messengers to the Nations , or the Feeding and Nourishing Ministry of Pastors and Teachers , according to the first Institution of the Lord Iesus , are yet restored and extant . It may then be said , what is that Ministry that hath been extant since Luther and Calvins time ( especially what is that Ministry that hath been Instrumentall in the hand of the Lord , to the conversion of thousands ? ) I answer , The Ministry of Prophets or Witnesses , standing with Christ Iesus , against his great corrivall , and competiour Antichrist , Revel. 10.11 . The whole Books of Martyrs ( or Witnesses ) is nothing else but a large Commentary or History , of the Ministry of Witnesses , during all the Reigne of the Beast , to this day . Look upon Berengarius with the Saints enlightned by him ; Look upon Waldus with his Waldenses in France , Wickliffe in England , Iohn Hus , and Ierome of Prague in Bohemia ; Luther in Germany , Calvin in Geneva ; what were they but the holy Prophets of Christ Iesus , in those Parts , and other Places , and Countries , now examine their Witnesses in two Particulars . 1. Negatively , wherein they Witnessed against the False , against the Vsurpations and Abominations of Antichrist ; and therein they were the Infallible Witnesses , and Prophets of Christ Iesus , Preaching and oft times Suffering to the Death for his Names sake . But , 2. View them in their Positive Practise and Worships , as they have assumed and pretended to such and such Ministries , and Titles , and Churches , and Ministrations , and there is not one of them , no not Calvin himselfe ( the greatest Pretender to Church-Order ) but the Father of Lights , in our times of Light , hath been graciously pleased to discover their great mistakes , and wandrings from the first Patternes and Institutions of Christ Iesus . I know the multitudes of Interpretations given upon Revel. 11. as touching the two Witnesses , and that many , if not most , incline to beleeve , at least to hope and desire , that their slaughter may be past and over : unto which in all humble submission to the holy councells of God , for Zions sake , I most heartily say as Ieremy once said in another , something a like case , Amen . But all the Interpretations extant , that ever I have yet heard or read of , they seem to me to look up the Sun in a Chamber , they are too narrow and particular , and like some Almanacks , calculated for one Meridian and Climate . For Antichristianisme is an Vniversall plague-sore spread over all the Empire that was Romane : The Romane Popes , as Vicars of Christ Iesus , pretend to a Romane Catholicisme , or Vniversality also . The Lord Iesus his cause therefore , and the cause of his Saints , is of a a more generall and universall concernment , such hath the Witnesse of his Servants been in all Ages and Countries of Europe . Now notwithstanding many particular slaughters ( as the Book of Martyrs and other Catologues of Christs Witnesses testifie ) yet I see it not possible that that Scripture can be satisfied , but that after the Vniversall finishing of the Witnesse , there must follow an universall persecution and slaughter unto which an universall provocation , and Exasperation by the Saints must probably precede and give Occasion . Wherein hath the former and latter Ministry been defective ? I answer , In all these four , their Gifts , their Calling , their Worke , their Wages . First , In their Gifts , for notwithstanding they pretend to the Apostles Commission , and to succeed them , Mat. 28. yet they have never pretended to the Gifts and Quallifications of such a Ministry , nor have they ever been able to clear up those two Foundations of the Christian Religion ( Heb. 6. ) the Doctrine of Baptisme , and the laying on of hands . Secondly , Notwithstanding that some plead their Succession from the Apostles or Messengers , yet are they forced to run into the Tents of Antichrist , and to plead Succession from Rome , and neither such nor others which plead their Calling from the People , can prove to my conscience , from the testimony of Christ Iesus , that either , Christs succession did run in an Antichristian line , or that two or three godly persons might first make themselves a church , & then make their Ministers , without a preceding Ministry from Christ Iesus unto them , to gather , and to guide them in such their Administrations . Thirdly the worke of that Commission ( Mat. 28. ) was exercised and administred to the Nations , as Nations , and the World , but all our professed Ministrations , former and latter have been carried on ( in a grand and common mistery ) for the converting of a converted people , for if we grant all Protestant Nations to be Christians , and so act with them in prayer as Christians , and the children of God ; how can we pretend to convert the converted , and to preach unto them to convert them ? One or other must be denied , to wit , that they are converted , or if unconverted , that we may offer up Christian and Spirituall Sacrifices with them . No Herauld , no Embassador sent to a city or army of Rebels did ever ( constantly least of all ) performe such actions of state with those Rebels , which represents or renders them in a capacity of honest and faithfull Subjects . Oh the Patience and Forbearance and Long-suffering of the most High , whose Eyes yet are as a flame of Fire . Fourthly , In their Wages , whether by Tithes or otherwise , they have alwayes run in the way of an Hire , and rendred such Workemen absolute Hirelings between whom and the true Sheapheard ( Joh. 10. ) the Lord Iesus puts so expresse and sharp a Difference : so that in all humble submission , I am bold to maintaine , that it is one of the grand Designes of the most High , to breake downe the Hireling Ministry , that Trade , Faculty , Calling and Living , by Preaching , and that if All the Princes , States , Parliaments and Armies , in the world should joyne their Heads and Hearts and Armes and Shoulders to support it , yet being a part of Babel and confusion , it shall sinke as a Mil-stone from the Angels hand into the deeps for ever . But is not the Labourer worthy of his Reward ? I answer , There is no Reward ( by infinite degrees ) comparable to an hundred fold ( though with persecution ) in this Life , and in the world to come eternal life , to all that deny themselves in this Life , and doe , and teach , and suffer for the name of the Son of God . More strictly and particularly I answer , First , He that makes a Trade of Preaching , that makes the cure of Souls , and the charge of mens eternall wellfare , a trade , a maintenance , and living , and that explicitely makes a covenant or bargaine ( and therefore no longer penny no longer Paternoster , no long pay no longer pray , no longer Preach , no longer fast , &c. ) I am humbly confident to maintaine , that the Son of God never sent such a one to be a Labourer in his Vineyard : Such Motions spring not from the living and voluntary Spring of the holy Spirit of God , but from the Artificiall and worldly respects of Money , Maintenance , &c. Wherein consists the making of the Hirelings , explicit , and implicit Bargaine . I answer , T is explicite , expresse and plaine , when there is a mutuall declaring and agreeing , for so much or so much , in one kinde or another , as the Levite agreed with Micha in the Iudges . Of this sort of explicite and plaine Bargaines by way of Tithes , stipend , &c. How is our owne and other Nations full , and how many thousands are there of the instances of moving and removing from Leaner to fatter Benefices , like the former Levite , from the poor Chaplain-ship of Micahs family , to the more rich and eminent Devotion of a Tribe of Dan , just like Servants hired by the yeare ( more or lesse ) stay not when they hear of proffers of more Ease and better Wages . Secondly , an implicite or implied Bargaine or Compact is when there passeth no expresse Agreement for so much or so much , but having been brought up ( as we say ) to that only Trade , they must make their living of it , and therefore being something convinced of the Grosser way , they are content as Water-men , Porters , and the like , with some kind of Intimations by word of mouth , or in course which shall amount to such a promise as this expresse : I know your Fare , your Due , I will content you , &c. Trust to my Courtesie : The triall of this is plaine , for without such an Implication or implicite promise , the Hireling will not , indeed he cannot ( having no other way to live on ) move his Lip or Tongue , no more then a Waterman or Porter , his Hand or Foot . Secondly , as to the Labourer worthy of his Reward , I answer , we find no other patterne in the Testament of Christ Iesus , but that both the Converting ( or Apostolicall Ministry ) and the Feeding ( or Pastorall Ministry ) did freely serve or minister , and yet were freely supported by the Saints and Churches , and that not in stinted Wages , Tithes , Stipends , Sallaries , &c. but with larger or lesser supplies , as the Hand of the Lord was more or lesse extended in his weekly blessings on them . Thirdly , when either through poverty or neglect , support and maintenance failed , yet still they eyed ( as Sea men and Souldiers say ) the Good of the Voyage , and the Battel ( the common Cause of the Lord Iesus ) and their owne hands day and night , supplied their owne and others Necessities . And this was and will be the onely way of the Labourers of the Son of God . The Priests and Levites under the Law had setled and constant Maintenance . I answer , Blessed be the Father of Lights who hath shewne his people of late times , the great difference between the stated and setled Nationall Church , the Ministry , and maintenance thereof , and the ( ordinary ) afflicted , moving , flying , state of the Church , and Churches of Christ Iesus all the world over . Although it be granted that the Hireling Ministry , both explicite and implicite , is none of Christs , yet this is wonderfull , what should be the Reason why so much good hath been wrought thereby , as the conversion of thousands ? &c. I answer , All the wisedome , mercy , goodnesse , and piety that is in us , is but a drop to the Ocean of that which is in the Father of mercies , who with infinite pity and patience , passeth by the ignorances and weaknesses of his Children . Hence Luther and other Monks , Cranmer and other Bishops , Calvin and other Presbyterians , God hath graciously covered their Failings , and accepted his owne Grace of good Desires , good Affections and Endeavours , though many wayes defiled with sin . Thus was his infinite Goodnesse pleased to overlook the sin of Poligamie , or many Wives , in which so many of the Fathers or Patriarchs of Israel , were brought forth . Thus was he pleased to passe by the sins of the High places , where Solomon himselfe offered Sacrifice . And yet as to this great point of good being done , we may with truth assert two things . First , where God hath been pleased to bring in one soule to Himselfe by the Hireling Ministry , many more have been brought home by the voluntary and more single preachings of some , whether publick or private ; by the endeavour of private christians , by the reading of the holy Scriptures , by godly examples , by afflictions , &c. Hence wofull experience hath made it evident , that many excellent men ( in their persons , and the graces of Gods Spirit ) have laboured a score of yeares and more , in an Hireling way , without the birth of one child to God : while others singly out of Love to Christ Iesus , have despised Bargaines and Hire , and been more abundantly blest with mercifull successe and fruitfulness . Hence sure it is that there have been and are many excellent Prophets and VVitnesses of Christ Iesus , who never entred ( as they say ) into the Ministry , to wit , Lawyers , Physitians , Souldiers , Tradesmen , and others of higher and lower rank , who by Gods holy Spirit ( breathing on their meditations of the holy Scriptures , and other private helps ) have attained and much improved , an excellent Spirit of knowledge , and Vtterance in the holy things of Jesus Christ , which spirit they ought to cherish , and further to improve , to the praise of Christ . Amongst so many Instances ( dead and living ) to the everlasting praise of Christ Iesus , and of his holy Spirit , breathing and blessing where he listeth , I cannot but with honorable Testimony remember that Eminent Christian , VVitness , & Prophet of Christ , even that despised and yet beloved Samuel How , who being by Calling a Cobler , and without humane Learning ( which yet in its spheare and place he honoured ) who yet I say , by searching the holy Scriptures , grew so excellent a Textuary or Scripture learned man , that few of those high Rabbies that scorne to mend or make a Shoe , could aptly and readily from the holy Scripture , out-go him . And however ( through the Oppressions upon some mens Consciences , even in Life and Death , and after death in respect of Burying , as yet unthought and unremedied ) I say , however he was forced to seek a Grave or bed in the very High way , yet was his life , and death , and buriall ( being attended with many hundreds of Gods people ) honourable , and ( how much more his Rising againe ) glorious . But secondly , True and Right prophecying and Preaching , at first was , and shall be ( because after Gods own way and Ordinance ) beyond all compare with present Times , gloriously and wonderfully Successfull . Thus Acts 2. & 5. &c. poore Sinners came mourning after a Saviour by thousands . The Church and people of God since the Apostacy , is an Army routed , and can hardly preserve and secure it selfe , much lesse subdue and conquer others , like a Vessell becalmed at Sea , which though it make some way by Rowing and Towing , yet not comparable to what it doth when the mighty gales of Gods holy Spirit breath ( as most he useth to doe ) in the wayes of his owne most holy Appointments . Thirdly , We may see a great mistake as touching that great point of Conversion : There is a great breathing in the souls of Gods people after the Conversion of the English , Irish , Iewes , Indians , and blessed be God for those Breathings . Yet doubtlesse the first great worke is the bringing of the Saints out of Babel , or confused worships , and the downefall of the Papacie , after the witnesses slaughtered . Hence it is probably conceived by some upon Revel. 15. that untill the Vyals be powred forth upon Antichrist , the smoak so filleth the Temple , that no man , that is ( few of the Iewes or Gentiles ) shall by conversion enter in . Some will say , haue there not been great and mighty conversions of whole Nations , England , Scotland , French , Dutch , &c. from Popery to be good Protestants , & c. ? I answer , If the holy Scripture , the first pattern , and dolefull experience may be judge , as an eminent Person lately spake ( upon occasion of a Debate touching the Conversion of the Indians ) we have Indians at home , Indians in Cornewall , Indians in Wales , Indians in Ireland , yea as to the point of true Conversion , and Regeneration by Gods spirit , who can deny but that the body of this and of all other Protestant Nations ( as well as Popish ) are unconverted , and ( as formerly ) ready to be converted and turned forward and backward , as the VVeather-cock , according as the powerfull wind of a prevailing Sword and Authority , shall blow from the various points and quarters of it . By the mercifull Assistance of the most High , I have desired to labour in Europe , in America , with English , with Barbarians , yea , and also I have longed after some trading with the Iewes themselves ( for whose hard measure I feare the Nations and England , hath yet a score to pay ) But yet ( as before ) I cannot see but that the first and present great Designe of the Lord Iesus is to destroy the Papacy , in order to which , two great VVorks are first to be effected . First , His calling of his people more and more out of the Babel of confused VVorships , Ministries , &c. and the finishing of their Testimony against the Beast . Secondly , the great sufferings and slaughters of the Saints , upon occasion of which Christ Iesus in his holy wrath and jealousie , will burne and teare the bloody whore of Rome , in pieces . After which effected , the numberlesse number , Rev. 7. the fullnesse of the Gentiles or Nations ( Rom. 9. ) together with the Iewes , shall flow to Iesus Christ . Thirdly , we may hence see our great mistakes , both of our selves & our Fore-fathers , as to the pretended Seed-plots and Seminaries for the Ministry , the Vniversities of Europe , and the Vniversities of this Nation , for alalthough I heartily acknowledge that among all the outward Gifts of God , humane learning and the knowledge of Languages and good Arts , are excellent and excell other outward gifts , as far as light excels darknesse , and therefore that Schools of humane Learning , ought to be maintained , in a due way and cherished ; yet notwithstanding , In ordine ad ministerium , as to the ministry of Christ Iesus ( any one of those ministeries , Ephes. 4. & 1 Cor. 12. ) upon a due survey of their Institutions and continuall practises compared with the last will and Testament of Christ Jesus , they will be found to be none of Christs , and that in many respects . First , as to the name Schollar , although as to humane learning , many wayes lawfull , yet as it is appropriated to such as practise the Ministry , have been at the Vniversities ( as they say ) It is a sacrilegious and theevish title , robbing all believers and Saints , who are frequently in the Testament of Christ , stiled Disciples or Schollars of Christ Jesus , and only they as Beleevers , and this Title is so much theirs , that both men and women beleeving , were called Schollars , Act. 9. There was a certaine Disciple or Schollar called Dorkas . Secondly , As to their Monkish and idle course of life , partly so gentile and stately , partly so vain & superstious , that to wet a finger in any pains or labor , it is a disgraceful and an unworthy Act : But the Church is built upon the Foundation of the Apostles & Prophets , who were Labourers , Fishermen , Tent-makers , Iesus Christ ( although the Prince of Life yet ) a poor carpenter , the chief corner stone . And I cannot but conceive , that although it should not please the most holy and jealous God to stir up this renowned State , and their renowned Cromwell ( the 2d ) to deale with our refined Monasteries , as that blessed Cromwell the first did with the more grosse and Palpably superstitious in Henry the Eighth his days : Yet in his time the Lord Iesus whose is all power in Heaven and Earth will spue out these Seminaries of Hirelings , and misticall Merchants out of his mouth , as he hath done their Fathers the superstitious and bloudy Bishops before them . Thirdly , As to their Popish and vaunting Titles , so strange from the New Testament and language of Christ Iesus , or any word of title that came forth of his blessed mouth , [ Bachellors of Divinity ( or Godlinesse ) Doctor of Divinity , so clearly and expresly opposite to the command of the Lord Iesus : Call no man Father , Doctor , &c. that is , by way of Eminency in spirituall and heavenly regards , Rabbi , Rabbi , Doctor , Doctor , &c. I omit ( because possibly for shame left off in these dayes ) their childish ceremonies ( used even by the most holy and consciencious ) in their superstitious commencings and creatings , &c. Their holy Gownes ( black and red ) holy cassocks , holy caps , , holy scarfs , holy Rings , yea , and holy bootes also , &c. All as far from the purity and simplicity of the Son of God , as far as the honest-Attire of some sober and chast Matron , from the wanton and flaunting vanities , of some Painted Harlot . Fourthly , As to their ( pretended ) Spirituall and holy exercises proper onely to the Churches and Assemblies of the Saints ( the onely Schools of the Prophets appointed by Christ Iesus : ) How have they been by Courts imposed upon every naturall and unspirituall man , who ( in Truth ) perceives not the things that be of God : How have they been prostituted to every prophane and unclean lyp ; unto whom saith God ( Psa. 50 ) What hast thou to doe to preach my word , and to take my name into thy mouth ? Fifthly , As to their being prepared and fitted by these means , as in a way of Prentiship , to set up the Trade and way of Preaching , the science or faculty of Spirituall merchandize ( Revel. 18. in a deep Mistery ) of all sorts of spices and precious things , the precious sweet Truths and Promises of holy Scripture ; yea , ( which we may with holy trembling add ) a trade of selling God himselfe , Christ Iesus , the Holy Spirit , Heaven and Hel , and ( too too often ) their own Souls , and the Souls of thousands . But have there not come excellent men from thence , famous for Learning , Holinesse , Labours , Successe in the Souls of thousands , & c ? I say , There have been excellent men ( some say Popes and Cardinals , and we are sure ) Lord Bishops and Monks in their personall Holinesse , gifts , Learning , Labours , Successe , and therein famous Prophets and Witnesses of Christ Iesus ; yea , they have sealed the holy Truths of God , which they have learned from the holy Scriptures , and which they have declared to others , I say they have sealed them with their heart blood , but that 's no justification of their evill standings , Institutions , Administrations , &c. which ( as by degrees it hath pleased the Father of Lights to discover unto them ) they have come out of such Bondage with shame and sorrow , and laboured after the purity and simplicity of the Son of God . But extraordinary gifts be ceased , how shall now the people of this Nation be supplyed with Ministers , but from such Seminaries of Learning , which fit men both with Learning to know , and Eloquence to utter the heavenly Mysteries : Or would you have the people be of no Religion at all , meer Atheists , without God , without his Word , without a Ministry , & c ? I answer , 'T is true , those glorious first ministeriall gifts are ceased , and that 's or should be the lamentation of all Saints , to wit , the desolation and widow-hood of Zion : yet I humbly conceive that without those gifts , it is no ground of imitation , and of going forth to Teach and Baptise the Nations , for , the Apostles themselves did not attempt that mighty enterprise , but waited at Ierusalem untill the Holy Spirit descended on them , and inabled them for that mighty work : least of all is that a ground of counterfeiting , and of suborning a livelesse picture of that first Ministry ( like Ieroboams Institutions ) when every one that hath Friends may be preferred to Fellowships in Colledges , to the superstitious Degrees and Titles of Divinity ( as they call it ) and by these staires ascend up the Gospel preferments of rich and honourable Benefices . Yet Secondly , Far be it from me to derogate from that honourable civility of training up of Youth in Languages , and other humane Learning , whether in the City of LONDON , or other Townes and Cities , &c. All that I bear witnesse against , is the counterfeiting and sacrilegious arrogating of the titles and rights of Gods Saints , and Churches ( as before ) which are the only Schools of the Prophets : As also against their sacrilegious and superstitious Degrees ( as they call them ) in the profession of Divinity , as if they only knew Divinity , Godlinesse , Holinesse , and by such skill in godlinesse , and by such Degrees might succeed the ancient Scribes and Pharisees , in the uppermost seats in Synagogues and Feasts , in Reverend titles and salutations , as the only Masters and Teachers of Religion and godlinesse , and all this in the way of the Hireling , dividing ( Dan. 11. ) the whole Land for gaine : so that there hath not been roome ( without some speciall and extraordinary priviledge and license ) for the poorest Cottager to live in England , out of the Bishops Diocesse and the Priests Parish , and Payments : therefore , Thirdly , In all humble reverence and due submission to the Higher Powers , I affirme , there was never meerly Civill State in the World ( for that of the Iewes was mixt and Ceremoniall ) that ever did or ever shall make good work of it , with a civill sword in spirituall matters , and therefore have but builded & pluckt down , planted and pluckt up , Churches , Ministries , Disciplines , &c. I acknowledge with thankfulnes , that many heavenly Spirits , in K : Edwards , Q : Elizabeths days , and since that , have been forming and reforming the states and nations , Religion , Worship , Ministry , &c. Doubtlesse Intentions were holy ( as Davids ) labours great , & Gods mercy , and pity and patience infinite : yet experience long and ever hath told us That there was never a Nation yet born in a day to God , That the bodies of all Nations is a part of the world , and although the holy Spirit of God , in every Nation where the Word comes , washeth white some Blackamores , and changeth some Leopards spots , yet the bodies and bulks of Nations , cannot by all the Acts and Statutes under heaven , put off the Blackamores skin , the Leopard spots , &c. O why then should the wisedome of so many Ages , still each after other , be preacht ( by the prevailing Hirelings of each time , againe and again ) into the selfe-same delusion of washing the Blackamore , & c ? There is not a Towne , nor a Parish , nor a person in England , but judge themselves christian , and to that end challenge the right and use of ( a Minister , in sacris some ( as in all Religions in the world it is ) to serve the Dietie they worship , ex officio , as Sacerdotes , or holy persons for and with them , in prayers and holy Rites . This mine eyes have often seen among thousands of the wild , yet wise Americans , who yet ( alas ) as all the Nations of Europe , and the world are utterly uncapable of Formes and Ministers ( or Officers ) of Christian worship , while yet in their naturall and worldly capacities , not borne againe , made spirituall and heavenly , by the holy spirit of God . Yet , Fifthly , I desire uprightly to be far from divers waights and measures in the things of God ( especially ) : and therefore I desire not that liberty to my selfe , which I would not freely and impartially weigh out to all the consciences of the world beside : And therefore I doe humbly conceive , that it is the will of the most High , and the expresse and absolute Duty of the civill powers to proclaim an absolute freedom in all the 3 Nations , yea in all the world ( were their power so large ) that each Towne , and Division of people , yea , and person , may freely enjoy what worship , what ministry , what maintenance to afford them , their soul desireth . To this end I am humbly bold to offer , that it is not the will of the Father of Spirits , that all the consciences and spirits of this Nation should violently ( Vi & armis ) be forced into one way of worship , or that any Towne or Parish ( so called ) in England , Scotland , or Ireland , be disturbed in their worship , ( what worship soever it be ) by the civill sword : If the people freely choose that way of worship , and ministry , and maintenance they walk in , yea if they will freely pay them the Tenths or Fifths , I shall not envy their Ministers maintenance , nor disturb either minister or peoples conscience by any other sword , but with that spirituall sword of two edges , the sword of Gods spirit , the holy word of God . Grant the bodies of the Nations to be but naturall , but civill , and therefore cannot without the changings of Gods spirit , be possibly fit as spirituall flocks of sheep , for spirituall Pastors , or shepheards to feed and build them up with the spirituall Ordinance of Christ Iesus ? yet , need they not a converting or begetting ministry of Christ Iesus , to preach Repentance to them , to spiritualize and change them ? And if so , where shall ten thousand Ministers be had to goe to ( about ) that number of Parishes in England , without the constant supplies of the seed-plots and Seminaries , the Vniversities of the Nation ? I answer , First , there are great Disputes among Gods people whether Apostles or Messengers sent out to teach and baptise , that is , to Convert the Nations , be yet an Ordinance of Christ Iesus continued , or being extraordinary ceased ? There is a great dispute whether the Ministry of the twelve ( Matth. 10. ) or of the 70 ( Luk. 10. ) be continued since they both had an immediate call from Christ . And secondly , Such excellent gifts , abilities , and furniture from Christ , which now we find none are furnished with , as healing the sick , raising the dead , casting out Devils , &c. Further , whether all these gifts and administrations , Ephes. 4. & 1 Cor. 12. be to be expected ? For my selfe I am sure of two things . First , It is but little of the World yet that hath heard of the lost estate of mankinde , and of a Saviour , Christ Iesus , and as yet the fullnesse of the Gentiles is not yet come , and probably shall not , untill the downefull of the Papacy . Yet Secondly , The Ministry or Service of Prophets , and Witnesses , mourning and Prophecying in Sack-cloath , God hath immediately stirred up and continued all along the reigne of the Beast , and Antichrist of Rome . This Witnesse is ( probably ) neer finished , and the bloudy storme of the slaughter of the Witnesses , is yet to be expected and prepared for : But this , and the time , and many passages of Revel. 11. is Controversiall , and something like that of Christs expected personall presence , the state of the New Ierusalem , the new Heavens and Earth , &c. However this is cleare , that all that are betrusted with spirituall or temporall Tallents , must lay them out for their Lord and Master , his Advantage . That , all ( of what rank soever ) that have knowledge & utterance of heavenly Mysteries , & therein are the Lords Prophets & Witnesses against Antichrist , must Prophecy against false Christs , false Faith , false Love , false Ioy , false Worship , and Ministrations , false Hope , and false Heaven , which poor souls in a golden dream expect & look for . This Prophecy ought to be ( chiefly ) exercised among the Saints in the companies , meetings , and assemblies of the fellow-mourners , and witnesses against the falshoods of Antichrist : If any come in ( as in 1 Cor. 14. ) yea if they come to catch , God will graciously more or lesse vouchsafe to catch them if he intends to save them . But for the going out to the Nations , Cities , Townes as to the Nations , Cities , and Townes of the World , unconverted , untill the downefall of the Papacy , Revel. 18. and so the mounting of the Lord Iesus , and his white Troopers againe , Revel. 19. &c. For the going out of any to preach upon hire , for the going out to convert sinners , and yet to hold communion with them as Saints in prayer : For the going out without such a powerfull Call from Christ , as the twelve and the seventy had : or without such suitable gifts as the first Ministry was furnished with , and this especially without a due knowledge of the Period of the Prophecies to be fulfilled , I have no Faith to act , nor in the Actings and Ministrings of others : for There is but one God , Lord and Spirit , from whom those Gifts , Administrations and Operations proceed , 1 Cor. 12. without whose holy & heavenly concurrence in all those three , both Gifts and Administrations and operations , instead of Glorifying the name of Christ , and saving Souls , we may Blaspheame his Name , and grieve his spirit , and hinder and harden poor souls against Repentance , when by fellowship in prayer with them as with Saints , we perswade them of their ( already ) blessed state of Christianity , and that they are New-born , the saints , and sons , and daughters of the living God ; therefore . Lastly , If it shall please our most Noble Governours , to search into the institution and constitution ( as they have done of the Diocesan so also ) of the National and Parish Churches ▪ ( concerning which I shal humbly subjoyn some Queries in the close of all ; ) If they please to take off the Yoaks , the Soul Yoaks of binding all persons to such parochiall or parish formes , permitting them to injoy their own belief , whether within or without such Parish worships , Parish maintenance , Parish maryings , Parish Buryings , by which the souls and consciences of so many have been inbondaged in life and death , and ( their bodies , in respect of buryings ) after death . If they shall please so far ( if not to countenance yet ) to permit impartially All consciences , and especially the consciences , the meetings and assemblings of faithfull and conscionable people , ( the Voluntiers in preaching Christ Iesus ) : so as that what people and persons please , may peaceably frequent and repaire to such spirituall meetings and assemblies , as they doe the Parish Churches : I am humbly confident , that as to the point of converting souls to God ( so far as the present state of Christianity can be so promoted ) the souls of thousands will blesse God more , then if Millions of Hirelings were sent abroad from all the Vniversities , both of Popish and Protestant Countries . Fourthly , 4 Upon the grounds first laid , I observe the great and wonderfull mistake both our owne and our Fathers , as to the civill powers of this world , acting in spirituall matters . I have read ( as blessed Latimer once said ) the last Will and Testament of the Lord Iesus over many times , and yet I cannot finde by one tittle of that Testament , that if he had been pleased to have accepted of a temporall Crowne and Government , that ever he would have put forth the least finger of temporall 〈◊〉 civill power , in the matters of his spirituall affairs an●Kingdome . Hence must it lamentably be against the Testimon● of Christ Iesus , for the Civill state to impose upon the Soules of the People , a Religion , a Worship , a Ministry , Oaths ( in Religious and Civil affairs , ) Tithes , Times , Days , Marryings and Buryings in holy ground , yet in force , as I have ( I hope ) by the helpe of God , fully debated that great Question with Master Cotton , and washt off all his late washings of that bloody Tenent of Persecution , &c. What is then the expresse duty of the Civill Magistrate , as to Christ Iesus his Gospell and Kingdome ? I answer , I know how wofully that Scripture , Kings shall be thy nursing Fathers , &c. hath been abused , and elswhere I have at large discussed that , and other such Objections : At present , I humbly conceive , that the great Duty of the Magistrate , as to spirituals , will turne upon these two Hinges . First , In removing the Civill Bars , Obstructions , Hinderances , in taking of those Yoaks , that pinch the very Soules and consciences of men , such as yet are the payments of Tithes , and the Maintenance of Ministers , they have no faith in : Such are the inforced Oaths , and some ceremonies therein , in all the Courts of Iustice , such are the holy Marryings , holy buryings , &c. Secondly , In a free and absolute permission of the consciences of all men , in what is meerly spirituall , not the very consciences of the Iews , nor the consciences of the Turkes or Papists , or Pagans themselves excepted . But how will this Propagate the Gospell of Christ Iesus ? I answer thus , The first grand Design of Christ Iesus is , to destroy and consume his Mortal enemy Antichrist . This must be done by the breath of his Mouth in his Prophets and Witnesses : Now the Nations of the World , have impiously stopt this heavenly breath , and stifled the Lord Iesus in his Servants : Now if it shall please the civill State to remove the state bars , set up to resist the holy Spirit of God in his servants ( whom yet finally to resist , is not in all the powers of the world ) I humbly conceive that the civill state hath made a fair progresse in promoting the Gospel of Iesus Christ . This Mercy and freedome is due to the ( meerly ) religious consciences of all men in the world . Is there no more due from the Magistrate to Christ Iesus his saints and Kingdome ? I answer , While I pleade the Conscience of All men to be at Liberty , doubtlesse I must plead the Liberty of the Magistrates conscience also , and therefore were his bounties and donations to his Bishops and Ministers , as large as those of Constantine ; who , but the holy Spirit of God in the mouths of his Prophets can restrain him ? Onely let not Caesar , ( as Constantine in his setled prosperity did ) rob the God of Heaven of his Rights , the consciences of his subjects their heavenly Rights and Liberties . But under the pretence of propagating the Gospell of Christ Iesus ( it may be said ) what horrible opinions and Spirits will be vented , as woefull experience hath manifested : I answer , Opinions offensive are of two sorts : some savouring of Impiety , and some of Incivility . Against the first , Christ Iesus never cald for the Sword of Steel to helpe the Sword of the Spirit that two-edged Sword that comes out of the mouth of the Lord Iesus : And therefore if a world of Arrians deny the Deity of Christ Iesus : If a Maniche his humane nature : If the Jews deny both , and blasphemously call our Christ a Deceiver : Nay , if the Mahumetans the Turkes ( the greater number by far of one Religion in the World ) if they I say , pefer their cheating Mahomet before him , What now ? must we raile , revile , &c. and cry ou Blasphemers , Hereticks ? Must we run to the Cutlers shop , the Armories and Magazines of the Cities and Nations ? Must we run to the Cities or Nations , and Senates , and cry , Helpe you men of Ephesus , helpe O Inhabitants of Ierusalem , &c. Or must we fly up to Heaven by Prayers and Curses , to fetch downe Fire upon the persecuting Captains and their fifties ? This doe the Nations , this doe false Christs and Christians , but this did not , this will not doe the Lambe of God , the Lyon of Iudah's Tribe , who with his Word and Spirit alone ( which the Father hath promised to put into his Mouth , and the Mouth of his Seed , and the Mouth of his Seeds Seed ( Isa. 59. ) will either kill or save the gain-saying Opposite . The Second sort , to vvit opinions of Incivility , doubtlesse the Opinions as well as practices , are the proper Object of the Civill Sword : according to that Magna Charta for the civill Magistrate , Rom. 13. and that true Apothegme or saying , Ex malis moribus bonae leges : Good Laws occasioned by Evill manners . But ought not the civill Magistrate to repeal their Ordinance for Tithes , and also to appoint some course for the maintenance of the Ministry ? I answer , Upon that Ground of Removing Soule Yoaks , and not Restraining , nor constraining conscience , I humbly conceive , that the civil State cannot by any Rule from Christ Iesus , either forbid the payment of Tithes to such whose conscience is to pay them , or enjoyne them where the conscience is not so perswaded : For the further clearing of which assertion , I distinguish of the People of this Nation into two sorts . First , Such as have a Freedome in their minde to frequent the Publick Parish Assemblies of the Nation , and they are also of two sorts . First , Such as conscienciously frequent such places , either out of a consciencious zeale of worshipping of God , or out of a superstitious and traditionall awe . Secondly such as can goe or not goe , and care not what Religion themselves and the State be of . There is a second sort of people in this Nation , which out of conscience dare not frequent such Places , and they are such ; First , Such as indeed feare God , and are in their consciences perswaded of an indelible Character of Holinesse upon such Temples , as Temples dedicated to a Parish worship . Secondly , Such as out of an utter dislike of all Protestant Worship , and an high esteem of their owne Catholick Faith , are as far from love to such places as the former sort . Now all these Consciences ( yea the very conscience of the Papists , Iewes , &c. ( as I have proved at large in my Answer to Master Cottons washings ) ought freely and impartially to be permitted their severall respective Worships , their Ministers of Worships , and what way of maintaining them they freely choose . But if the civill state injoyne not the maintenance of the Ministry : If they quite let loose the Golden Raines of Discipline ( as the Parliament exprest , and the Scots objected ) What will become of the Ministry of the Gospel ; and the Soules of men ? For if each mans conscience be at Liberty to come to Church or not , to Pay to the Minister or not , the prophane and loose will neither pay nor pray , but turne Atheisticall and irreligious : The Ministers of Worship will be discouraged and destitute , and Parents will have little mind to expend their Monies to make their children Scholars , when the Hope of their preferment is cut off . I answer , First that Supreame Court in their Declaration never Declared to barre up all the Doors and Windows of that Honorable House , so that no further Light from Heaven should breake into their Souls and councels from the most glorious Sun of all Righteousnes the Lord Iesus , Although the Loose will be more loose ( yet ) possibly being at more Liberty they may be put upon consideration and choice of wayes of life and peace yet however it is infinitely better , that the Prophane and loose be unmasked , then to be muffled up under the veile and hood of Traditionall Hypocrisie , which turnes and duls the very edge of all conscience either toward God or Man . Thirdly , It is not to be doubted , but that each conscience , the Papists and the Protestants , both Presbiterians and Independents will aemulously strive for ( their not onely conscience but ) credit sake , to excell and win the Garland in the fruits of bounty , &c. Thus a Iesuite once in New-gate boasted of the Papists charity to a Protestant ( put in also for his conscience by the Bishops ) for , pulling out his hand full of Gold , look here ( said he ) are the fruits of our Religion . Fourthly , Such Parents or children as aime at the gaine , and preferment of Religion , doe often mistake Gaine and Gold for Godlinesse , God-belly for the true God , and some false for the true Lord Iesus : I adde , such Priests or Ministers as can force a maintenance of Tithes or otherwise , by the Sword , or else cease preaching for want of such or such a maintenance , or can remove from Bishopricks or Benefices ( as Calves and Bulls of Bashan ) for fatter and rancker Pastures : or wanting spirituall worke and maintenance , are too fine to worke with their hands , as the first Patternes , Christ first Ministers did , how can they say as Peter to Christ Iesus , Lord thou knowest all things , Thou knowest I love thee ? &c. therefore Lastly , The Father of Spirits graciously be pleased to preserve the Spirits of our higher powers from laying on of Hay and Stubble , though upon the Golden foundation Christ Iesus , for all such worke in matters spirituall , which our Forefathers either Popish or Protestant in their severall changes in this Nation have made , they have been consum'd and burnt ( like Hay and stubble ) and come to nothing . The Summa totalis of all the former particulars is this , First , since the people of this Nation have been forc't into a Nationall way of Worship , both Popish and Protestant ( as the Wheels of times revolutions , by Gods mighty providence and permission have turned about ) The civill state is bound before God to take of that bond and yoak of Soul-oppression , and to proclaime free and impartiall Liberty to all the people of the three Nations , to choose and maintaine what Worship and Ministry their Soules and Consciences are perswaded of : which Act , as it will prove an Act of mercy and righteousnesse to the inslaved Nations , so is it of a binding force to ingage the whole and every Interest and Conscience , to preserve the Common-freedom and peace . However , an Act most suiting with the piety and Christianity of the holy Testament of Christ Iesus . Secondly , The civill state is humbly to be implored , to provide in their high Wisdome for the security of all the respective consciences , in their respective meetings , assemblings , worshippings , preachings , Disputings , &c. and that civil peace , and the beauty of civility and humanity be maintained among the chiefe opposers and dissenters . Thirdly , It is the duty of all that are in Authority , and of all that are able , to countenance , incourage , and supply such true Voluntiers as give and devote themselves to the service and Ministry of Christ Iesus in any kind : although it be also the duty , and will be the practise of all such whom the Spirit of God sends upon any work of Christs , rather to work as Paul did , among the Corinthians and Thessalonians , then the work and service of their Lord and Master , should be neglected . Such true Christian worthies ( whether endowed with humane Learning , or without it ) will alone be found that despised modell which the God of Heaven will onely blesse ; that poor handfull and three hundred out of Israels thirty two thousand by whom the work of the God of Israel must be effected . And if this course be effected in the three Nations , the bodies and soules of the three Nations will be more and more at peace , and in a fairer way then ever , to that peace which is Eternall when this World is gone . A few Queries subjoyned as to the former high Question , of propagating the Gospel or glad Newes of a Saviour . 1. FIrst , whether the yet remaining Division of the whole Land , into Nationall and Parish Churches , and the centuring and assembling of People into a Parish Church , be suitable to the true Religion and Testament of Christ Iesus : Or rather an invention of Satan and Antichrist , to divide the Land for gaine , into Nationall , Provinciall , Diocesan , Parochiall , so that there is not a foot of land left in the whole Nation , for the holiest or the highest ( without some extraordinary priviledge ) where to finde a resting place out of such a Church compasse . And whether is not such a Profession of Christ Iesus , a denyall of Christ Iesus , whether is it not to make a State-Religion and the ministry thereof ( like the Dutch ) state Ministers , as it was truly said of late , that the Bishops were the Kings Bishops : And if so , since the Head of the Nationall Church , or Parishes is civill , the body be not so likewise , and consequently the whole frame of Worship , but civill and Politicall , and consequently the Grand Idoll of Iealousie , before the flaming eyes of the Son of God . 2. Whether this Nationall and Parishionall Forme of Worship be a State-Act , and so removeable at their pleasure . Or is it the Peoples Act and choise , and not removeable without the peoples free consent : To which end , can the Nation give , or the Parliament take a power of framing and imposing a Religion upon the people , any more ( if not comparably so much ) then of choosing and imposing Husbands and Wives ( in way of Marriage ) to all the people of this Nation : And whether therefore to inforce an Vniformity of a Nation to one Religion or Worship ( after the Jewish patterne ) be not a soul oppression and usurpation , not after Moses , much lesse after Christ Iesus the Son of God . 3. If such an holy Division of the Land be a State-Act , and removeable at pleasure , whether the not removing of such a Forme will not be set upon the Parliaments score , and be a Controversie from the God of Heaven against them ; For sure it is , being a plant which neither God nor the Son of God ever planted , it must irresistibly be plucked up and cast into the Fire . 4. If the State be found the Founders and Owners of the Parish Churches ( the meeting places ) whether ought they not to demolish them as Iehu did , or at least slight the Holinesse and Forme of them by reducing them to a civill forme and use , as the Army of late dealt with some such Holy places . And whether is it possible for all the men in the World , or Angels in Heaven , to wash off that Popish Character of Holinesse while still onely reserved for holy use , which both Papists and Protestants ( successively and interchangeably ) have made of them , as the Temple for the Parish worship , and so consequently the High places , and Idol Temples . 5. Is it not more conducible a thousand fold to the peoples eternall welfare , that each Towne and Division of people in the Land , be impartially permitted to make a stand , to examine and choose their way of worship Ministry , and Maintenance : yet whether or no is it not absolutely better that they did freely choose rather a false Religion ( Iewish , Popish , Turkish , &c. ) then without their owne free choise , to be nusled up in a way of Traditionall and Customary Religion , or else in an enforced Hypocrisie against perswasion and Conscience ? 6. Whether that policie that refuseth to search into these things , pretending danger of discomposing the present Government and peace of the Nation , the dismounting of the present Governers , the misse of State-Ministers in every Towne , to keep the people in Obedience , by publishing their Acts unto them ; I say , is not such Policie , ungodly , irreligious , unchristian , and the next way to provoke the jealousie of the most High , against both State and Statesmen , and to cause from Heaven , some other turne upon this Power and Common-wealth . 7. Whatever the duty of the civill State be found to be , as touching the Parish Formes and Churches , yet is not the unquestionable duty of the State to take off the soul yoaks from the Necks of all that doe or may inhabite this Nation , Iewes or Gentiles : and as to Civill things ( the proper object of the civill state ) to cast the Nation into a civill forme , and to appoint civill Officers thorow-out the Nation ; To Record the Birth of children : to take order as to marriages and buryings of all people impartially in a civill way : The want of which civil Ordinance , as to the latter , hath been a second death in this Nation to multitudes of Yoak-fellows , Parents , &c. who being not able to walk in the Parish wayes of burying in holy ground , and by the Parish Officers , they have been forced ( not without danger also ) to the High-wayes for succour to their own consciences , and to their Dead-beloveds . 8 Whether since the most high hath made bare and naked his holy arme from heaven for this Nation , this Parliament , this Army , in most wondefull and singular deliverances , preservations , victories . And since this Nation is set in the midst of the Nations of the world , wearing a Crowne of advantage to be exemplary and presidential to the whole world about us : Whether hath not the most High reserved some wonderfull and singular Acts for the trial of their singular love and gratitude : And since he rewarded Iehu with temporall honour to many generations , and will not forget to pay richly for a cup of cold water , &c. since he hath promised an hundred fold in this life , to such as loose for his sake , and in the world to come life everlasting : Is it not the best Policy , wisedome and reason under Heaven to search out only what is his only and acceptable pleasure in Christ Iesus , and to trust his infinite power , wisedome and goodnesse , what ever be the present successe or consequents . An Appendix as touching Oathes , A Querie , ALthough it be lawfull ( in case ) for Christians to invocate the Name of the most High in Swearing : Yet since it is a part of his holy worship , and sometimes put for his whole worship , and therefore proper unto such as are his true Worshippers in Spirit and Truth : and persons may as well be forced unto any part of the worship of God as unto this , since it ought not to be used , but most solemnly , and in most solemne and weighty cases , and ( ordinarily ) in such as are not otherwise determinable ; since it is the voice of the two great Law-givers , from God , Moses and Christ Iesus , that in the mouth of two or three Witnesses ( not Swearing ) every Word shall stand : Whether the inforcing of Oaths and spirituall Covenants upon a Nation promiscuously , and the constant inforcing of all persons to practise this Worship in the most triviall and common cases in all Courts ( together with the Ceremonies of Booke , and holding up the hand &c. ) be not a prostituting of the Holy Name of the most High to every unclean Lip , and that on slight occasions , and a taking of it by Millions , and so many millions of times in vaine , and whether it be not a provoking of the eyes of his jealousie who hath said it , That he will not hold him ( what him or them soever ) guiltlesse that taketh his name in vaine . An Humble and Christian proffer of Disputation . WHereas in the Epistle I intimated my readiness to debate the Particulars of this Discourse , &c. I am here humbly bold to Professe , as in the holy presence of the most High , that I am not Conscious to the least Designe or Aime , but that of a Conscionable and Peaceable presenting Verbum opportunum ( an Apple of Gold in a Picture of Silver ) into those Honorable hands whom it so highly concernes . 'T is true , my long Exile into and in America , have rendred me now a Stranger , and ( after the Dispatch of some Civill Affaires ) I should unspeakably rejoyce to be gone to morrow ; But while the Most High is pleased to force my stay : He hath also ( as I beleeve ) inforced my Spirit , againe to proffer , in all Christian meekness and humility to agitate with whom or before whom soever , these following Proposals . First , Since the remoulding of this Nation into the Modell of Protestanisme : the Clergy or Ministry ( so call'd ) of this Nation , both Prelaticall , Presbiterian and Independent , and ( however in their persons many of them precious and excellent , yet ) as to their Functions and Offices , as to procuring the Magistrates actings in spiritual cases , as to the Worships and Consciences of this Nation , they have been bewildred , if not wholly blinded : For as the Hireling way of Ministry is none of Christs : So for this Hire , have not only the Popish , but the Protestant Clergy , tost up and downe ( even like Tenis-bals ) the Magistrates and Laws , the Consciences and Worships , the Peace and War , the Weale and Woe of this Nation . Secondly , In all ages since Constantine , the Hireling Ministry have must wofully mislead the Consciences of the Civill state by Preaching them out of their Civill Spheare and Line , sometimes into an Headship , sometimes into a Footship , ( now over and above , and againe as the Revolutions have been ) inferiour to , and under the Church : Out of this Civill line or Sphear as this present Age is forced to confesse , that the Civill Magistrates our Fathers before us never made true Christian Worke of it , so I am humbly bold to maintaine they never shall : and therefore Thirdly , As the Civill permission of all the Consciences and Worships of all men in Things meerly spirituall is no wayes inconsistent with true Christianity and true Civility : So is it the Duty of the Civill Magistrate to suppresse all violencies to the Bodies and Goods of men for their Souls beliefe , and to provide , that not one person in the Land be Restrained from , or Constrained to any Worship , Ministry or Maintenance , but peaceably maintained in his Soul , as well as Corporall Freedome , To which end I add , that the violent putting in , and putting out of the severall sorts of the Ministers of Worship in this Nation ( if against the Peoples Free choice and desire ) hath ever and will be yet , while so practised , a Grand oppression , and a Powerfull occasion , both of Civill Insurrections , and Soul mischiefs . Fourthly , The Lord Jesus Christ , hath not forgotten to be infinitely Faithfull , and infinitely Wise and Tender to the Soules of his Chosen , but hath in all Ages , and in all Conditions and Changes of his Spouse , stirred up by his holy Spirit , and sent such Voluntary Labourers into his Vine-yard , and so will , as have been , and shall be abundantly sufficient for this Nation and all Nations , as may best suit the Holy ends and Periods of his Time and Kingdome . Fifthly , As he never appointed , so he never needed the casting of whole Nations into Oecumenicall , Nationall , Provinciall , Parochiall or Parish forms and Classes : To feed which Churches and the Ministries thereof , he never appointed nor needed , the Divinity ( or Godlinesse ) degrees of Universities and Colledges , Nor the enforcing of all the People of a Nation to come to Church ( as they call it ) nor the Distinction between inforcing to some Ordinances , but not to others , as to the Word and Prayer , and Singing and Paying , but not to the Lords Supper . All which are Plants which God his Father never planted , and therefore ( as all such like , though ●●irer Plants and Inventions ) must all in his holy Season be plucked up , and cast into the Fire . FINIS . Notes, typically marginal, from the original text Notes for div A66449e-780 The Author's Call to this Endeavour . Contrary to Intention and Desire . The Civil Power in all Ages , deceived by the deceived and deceiving Hirelings , The excellent Gifts and Spirits of many , who are yet captivated with a mercenary spirit and principle . The Author 's humble advice to such excellent and worthy Spirits as are ●et captivated in the Trade of Hirelings . Holy persons most unfit for unholy places : God most wisely disposeth of his work , some to the Fathers , and some to the Children . Impartial soul freedom to all the people of the Nation . Where the guilt of all the bloud spilt in Ireland lies . The ministry of Prophets , and the People of God have assembled with them all the reigne of Antichrist . The duty of each particular child of God in the midst of differences and dictractions . Notes for div A66449e-4660 1. Conclus . Moses & Christ reveale from God a Visible Worship . 2. Conclus . Prov. 9. Christs Messengers sent into the World . The white Troopers . 3. Conclus . The White Troopers Routed . 4. Conclus . A state of Witnesses during the Apostasie , Revel. 10. & 11. 5. Conclus . The 144000. Virgins , the twelve times 12000. mysticall Israelites , Prophets and Witnesses . A two-fold famous number of the followers of Christ Iesus in these times . The Fullnesse of the Gentiles , and Conversion of the Iewes . 6. Conclus . The Civill state cannot restraine or constraine in Spiritualls . No other present Sender but the holy Spirit of God . Consectarie . Pretenders to that Grand Commission ▪ Matth. 28. mistaken . Not the true Begetting or Feeding Ministry appointed by Christ Iesus , yet extant . Quest . The Ministry of Prophets immediately stirred up by God . The two Prophets in Sack-cloath . A glance on Revel. 11. The Apostacy the Witnesse the slaughter , the after rising all universall . Quest . Gifts . Pretences to Mat. 28. examined . Cal●ing . Worke . A stupendious M●stery of Preaching to convert the converted . Wages . Object . Christ Iesus never made Bargaine with his Messengers or Pastors . Qu●st . The Lands & Countries divided for gain as Daniel speaks , and men know in a way of Hire what to be sure of expresly . An implicit Bargaine ( like an Onion ) is a Bargaine infolded and wrapt up with more subtle peelings , &c. The first patterne of Ministers Maintenance . Objection . Objection . Gods infinite patience in bearing with his peoples Failings . The most voluntary preaching ever most fruitfull . Excellent Prophets of God , who never knew the pretended School of the Prophets . An honourable remembrance of a despised Witnesse of Christ Iesus , Samuel How . No Successe in Preaching now comparable to the first , and why . 3. Consectarie . No remarkable Conversion of the Nations , as yet to be expected . Quest . The bodies of Protestant Nations yet unconverted . The present Designes and purposes of Christ Iesus . 3. Consectary . Universities as to the Ministry of Christ Iesus , none of his Institutions . The title Schollar appropriated to the Ministers , a sacrilegious title . Universities in order to Christs Ministery but refined Monasteries . Pharisaicall and Popish Titles , and Ceremonies in their Creatings and Commensings . Spirituall exercises proper only to the Churches and Assemblies of Saints , the true Schools of the Prophets . The Hirelings wofull Trade and Merchandize . Object . Answ. Excellent & holy men in the bondage of sinfull Institutions , Superstitions . Quest . The counterfeit of the Apostolical Ministry . Institution of Youth in humane learning withall instructing them with the knowledge & feare of the Lord , most christian and honourable . The Civill State never made good work in spiritualls . The body of a civill State or Nation , and the elect or chosen of God out of each Nation , must be rightly distinguished . Absolutes f●●●●dome in ●●●●ters meer●● spirituall 〈◊〉 all the consciences i● the world . The people ought not to be forced to nor from the paying of Tenths , or Fifths , according to their Conscience . Objection . The Apostolicall Ministry to the lost Nations interrupted . Yet of the Prophets and Witnesses mourning in sackcloth continued . The Ministry of Prophets more opened . Gods Prophets of high or low condition , must not keep silence , and hide their Talents , &c. The Apostolicall ministry to the Nations and Peoples . The Apostolicall Ministry to the Nations and peoples . The Lords worke only in the Lords way . The grand oppression of the whole Nation is the Parish inforced constitution . Freedom for the people to frequent the word in other Assemblies beside the Parish , a great and hopefull means of blessed and Soul-saving fruit to the Nation . 4 Consectary . Christ Iesus no Founder of Covill power , in spirituall causes . Quest . The Civill Magistrates duty , as to spirituals , turning upon two hinges . Quest . The breath of Christ Iesus by which he consumes Antichrist , stopt by the Nations . Quest . The Magistrates and all men ought to excell in fruits of Piety and Mercy , according to conscience . Object . No sword to be used against the most horrid Blasphemies & Heresies , but the two edged sword of the Word , the sword of the Spirit of God . Quest . Tithes ought not to be injoyned , or forbidden . The people of this Nation according to their severall Consciences distinguished . Objection . The Sun of Righteousnesse is able to shine more light upon the wisest and the highest . Some prophanesse better then inforced Hipocrisie . Severall consciences sometimes emulate each other . Gain Godlinesse and God belly The wonderfull burning of Hay and Stubble in this Nation . Soul-Liberty , ought to be impartially restored to the three Nations . All Christs true Followers , and especially the Leaders among them , are a willing people and Voluntiers . Notes for div A66449e-25010 Dan. 11. Queries as touching the Parochiall Division of the whole land . The Inforcing of a nationall way , a national oppression . The Parish Churches , Idol Temples . There is a strange Prophecy extant , Henry the 8th Abbeys and Cels , Henry the Ninth Churches and Bells . Traditionall Religion the Nurse of Hypocrisie and Destruction . Dangerous State-policy . The want of Civill Officers in this Nation as to birth of Children , Marriages and Burials being all but naturall & Civill things . Singular mercies call for singular Acts of Exemplary and singular Gratitude . Notes for div A66449e-27330 The Holy name of G●d highly dishonoured by the Legall Oaths of this Nation .