Virtumnus romanus, or, A discovrse penned by a Romish priest wherein he endevours to prove that it is lawfull for a papist in England to goe to the Protestant church, to receive the communion, and to take the oathes, both of allegiance and supremacie : to which are adjoyned animadversions in the in the [sic] margin by way of antidote against those places where the rankest poyson is couched / by Daniel Featley ... Featley, Daniel, 1582-1645. 1642 Approx. 330 KB of XML-encoded text transcribed from 93 1-bit group-IV TIFF page images. Text Creation Partnership, Ann Arbor, MI ; Oxford (UK) : 2004-05 (EEBO-TCP Phase 1). A41019 Wing F597 ESTC R2100 12411416 ocm 12411416 61533 This keyboarded and encoded edition of the work described above is co-owned by the institutions providing financial support to the Early English Books Online Text Creation Partnership. This Phase I text is available for reuse, according to the terms of Creative Commons 0 1.0 Universal . 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Keying and markup guidelines are available at the Text Creation Partnership web site . eng Catholics -- England. 2003-12 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2004-02 SPi Global Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2004-03 Olivia Bottum Sampled and proofread 2004-03 Olivia Bottum Text and markup reviewed and edited 2004-04 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion Die Sabbathi , 22. Octob. 1642. IT is this day Ordered by the Commons House of Parliament : That none other besides Mr. Nicholas Bourne Stationer , or whom he shall appoint , shall upon any pretence whatsoever , presume to Print the Book called , A Safeguard from Shipwrack , to a Prudent Catholike , with Animadversions upon the same by Dr. Featley , called Virtumnus Romanus , Ordered to be Printed and published by the said House . H. Elsing Cler. Parl. D. Com. Vertumnus Romanus , OR , A DISCOVRSE PENNED BY A ROMISH Priest , wherein he endevours to prove that it is lawfull for a Papist in England to goe to the Protestant Church , to receive the Communion , and to take the Oathes both of Allegiance and Supremacie . To which are adjoyned Animadversions in the in the margin by way of Antidote against those places where the rankest poyson is couched . By Daniel Featley Dr. in Divinitie . 2 Cor. 11 13 14. Such are false Apostles , deceitfull workers , transforming themselves into the Apostles of Christ. And no marvell , for Satan himselfe is transformed into an Angel of light . Horat. Ep. Quo teneam vultus mutantem Protea nodo ? Tertul. in apol . Nefas est ulli de sua religione mentiri ; ex eo enim quod aliud à se coli fingit quam colit , negat quod colit , etiam non colit quod negavit . LONDON , Imprinted by I. L. for Nicholas Bourne , and Iohn Bartlet : and are to be sold at the South entrance at the Royall Exchange , and at the gilt Cup neere Austins Gate , in Pauls Church-yard . 1642. AN ADVERTISEMENT TO the Reader , touching the Author and the Argument of the insuing Discourse , AND THE REASONS FOR WHICH it is thought fit to be published to the view of the world . AS the ignorance of good is evill : so the knowledge even of evill is good ; for knowledge is nothing but the light and irradiation of the understanding by the beames of truth : which herein resemble the rayes of the Sun that neither defile any thing nor can themselves be defiled . Set aside curiositie and all kinds of vicious affection and indirect ends , and you shall finde that the knowledge even of sinfull impuritie , is cleane , of naturall corruption , is sound ; of worldly vanities , serious ; and of all kinde of maladies of the minde and body healthfull . And as it is the depth of Satans malice , è bono malum elicere , to draw evill out of good ( as the Spider sucks poyson out of sweet flowers and wholesome herbs ) so it is a high point of Gods goodnesse , è malo bonum elicere , to draw good out of evill , light out of darknesse , and order out of confusion it self . Where it not for this , that God who is the Soveraigne and Omnipotent Good , knoweth that it more redoundeth to the glory of his infinite wisdome and power to worke good out of evill , then quite to take it away ; there never had been , there never should be , any evill in the world , as St. Augustine piously argueth the case . There could be no evill in the world if God suffered it not , and he suffereth it not against his will but with his wi●l , neither would he which is so good , nay , rather goodnesse it selfe willingly suffer any evill to be , but that by his omnipotencie he can and doth extract much good out of all sorts of evill . This worke of Divine providence , Gregory Nyssen , fitly tearmeth , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the abuse of evill : for what is a●-uti to abuse a thing , but to use it contrary to the nature and condition thereof which if it be good , such an use is an abusive use : if it be evill , such use thereof is an usefull and commendable abuse ; as wh●n a Gramarian makes a rule of Anomalas , a Rhetoritian a figure of a Solaecisme , a Musitian an harmonie of discord , a Logitian a true use of fallacies , and a Physician a wholesome treacle of poyson . Such a use ( Christian Reader ) thou mayst make of the unchristian Treatise ensuing Wherein the Author thereof ( now in bold ) endeavoureth to shew all Romane Catholikes a way to escape not only all bonds , and imprisonment , but all other penalties of the law against Popish Recusants , by making their religion and conscience , a leade● and lesbian rule to comply with the religion professed by the Sta●● wheresoever they live . This Booke together with the Authour thereof was sent to the Honourable House of Commmos by the care of some members of that House , employed in a Committee neere Portsmouth , and it hath beene thought fit to be published for sundrie reasons . First , to discover the craft of the Iesuits in procuring upon uniust grounds , and by indirect meanes a ●ull from the Pope , prohibiting all Romane Catholiques to resort to the protestant Churches , in ●ngland under pain of his Holinesse curse , and dreadfull thunderbolt of excommunication : whereby as this Priest affirmeth they gained to themselves more disciples , more money , and more Colledges : For bee thou pleased ( Christian Reader ) to take notice , that in the reigne of King Edward the sixth of blessed memory , and during the space of the first tenne yeeres of Queene Elizabeth ( the Phoenix of her sexe and age ) the Papists in England did usually goe to Church , and there was no such thing as Popish Recusancie heard of . But after the ●ame souldier Ignatius Loyola with his new regiment , began to out-run all other orders , and rancks of Monks , and the Iesuits name was up , and many Colledges built for them beyond the Seas , the English Iesuits began to lay about , how their Colledges and Seminaries might be maintained and furnished by those of the Romish partie in England , and they finde this the ready way to offer to the richer sort of them the education of their children , they paying a good round rate for it : but because the parents then repairing to the Protestant Church might breed up their children at a farre easier rate in our Schooles of England , the secular Priests ( willingly undertaking the care and tuition of them ) the Iesuits were never quiet till they had obtained from the Pope upon such suggestions as they thought would most take with his Holinesse , the Bull above mentioned which frighted all Romish Catholiques from our Churches . See here the beginning and originall of Popish Recusancie in England , and the depth of the Myne which hath since enriched their English Colledges beyond the Sea. No wonder if the name of an Author , called Diana ( often cited in the ensuing Discourse ) be in great request . The benefit accruing to those of the Societie of Iesus by the Recusancie of Romish Catholiques in England , necessitated by them , is a Diana which hath brought no small gaine to these craftsmen . Demetrius with his fellow artificers cry out for many houres great is Diana of the Ephesians , not so much honour to that heathenish Deitie , but because they knockt and hammered out their living out of the silver shrines they made for her . Sirs , know ye not , saith Demetrius , that by this craft we have our wealth ? And in like manner the Iesuits stickle mainly for Recusancie not out of any zeale to the Catholique cause , as this Author in his Preface clearely demonstrateth : but because they suckt out of this forced Recusancie no small advantage . For the transporting of the children of Romish Recusants beyond the Seas ensuing thereupon , both filled their Colledges with Schollars , and their coffers with money . And in this respect these Iesuits may rightly be called Suits ( as Ieconias in the Prophet is called in disgrace Conias ) not only in respect of their swinish and Epicurean lives in their Styes beyond the Seas , but because their societie herein resembles that Sow in Martiall which farrowed in the Theater by a wound there received : so this Order by the wound received from the State ( I mean the penalties inflicted upon Romish Catholiques for Recusancie ) hath growne fruitfull and exceedingly multiplyed . But in the meane while , are not Iesuits consciences seared with a hot iron , who every where in their Printed Pamphlets , and Libels most bitterly exclaime against the State for inflicting penalties upon Papists in England for Recusancie , whereof they themselves have not only been the Authors but chiefe Actors therein to enforce it by the rescript of his Holines procured by them meerely for their advantage , as this Author sheweth . Secondly , to detect likewise the craft of the Secular Priests , verè seculares true worldlings , who for their owne advantage counterplot against the Iesuits and endeavour by subtill fetches and straines of conscience , to evacuate and frustrate their opposites designes : Sic ars eluditur arte . The Iesuits out of pretended zeale to the Romane faith , and religion , mainely contend for Recusancie , fearefully adiuring all English Papists with whom they have any power , that by no means either themselves resort to our publique service , or send their children to any Protestant Churches or Schooles : on the contrary the secular Priests out of pretended care and love to those of their religion , perswade them to make no scruple of repairing to our Churches or Schooles : that so they may save both the mulct of the law , and great charges by sending their children beyond the Seas there to be brought up in the Colledges and Schooles of the Iesuits . As for instructing them in the principles of their Catholique religion , that they will take care of , if the parents be pleased to commend them to their tuition . Thus both make religion a stalking horse to their worldly ends : the Iesuit is for Recusancie , the secular Priest for Conformitie ; neither of them truly to gaine soules to Christ , but to draw toll to their own mill . If there be no necessitie of Recusancie , the Iesuits may shut up their shops beyond the Seas , and if their be a necessitie of Recusancie , the Secular Priests may shut up their shops in England . And what care the Iesuits though many Families of Romish Catholiques in England sensibly decay in their estates , partly by reason of the penaltie of the law inflicted upon them for Recusancie , and partly in respect of the great expence they are at in the education of their children and transportation beyond the Sea , so long as the Iesuits Colledges by this means thrive and flourish ? and what care the Secular Priests though their proselytes run a hazard of their soules , by frequenting the Churches and Schooles of those they account quite out of the way of salvation , so long as they themselves are well paid for the education of their children , and a good amends is made by the Masters temporall gaine for the danger of the Schollers spirituall losse . When I read this Authors Preface and Discourse evidently discovering the Iesuits myning and the Secular Priests counter-myning : me thinks I see Pseudolus and Simias in the Poet , out-vying one the other in craftie fetches , deceitfull subtilties practised by them with dissembling , lyes and periuries . Thirdly to lay open to the view of the world the detestable and damnable doctrine of Romish Priests , and Iesuits who straine and weaken the strongest sinew which holdeth the members of all Ecclesiasticall and Politicke Bodies together : who cancell that bond which being made on earth is Registred in the high Court of Heaven , and the three Persons in the blessed Trinitie are called as witnesses thereunto . The Iesuits teach , that a man may without scruple of conscience or guilt of sinne affirme that upon oath in words , which he knoweth to be false , and deny upon oath that which he knoweth to be true , so he be sure to have some clause in his minde , which added thereunto in his inward intention , though not uttered , may make what he saith true in a sense : And this Priest here in his last Chapter teacheth it to be lawfull to forge , and fasten a meaning to the words of an Oath cleane contrary to the meaning of the Law-givers , who first made the Oath , and the Magistrate who lawfully requireth that Oath of them , as I will make it evidently appeare , when I come to scan his last Chapter . Now what is this else then to use the name of the God of tru●h in taking publique and solemne Oathes to confirme a lye , either in words or meaning ? what is it else then to mocke with Religion , and play fast and loose with the most sacred bonds of Pietie and Loyaltie . Verily if Religion be derived à religando from binding the conscience , or our faith to God or man ; he should not slander these men , who sayes , they have no Religion . For the surest and strongest bonds of Religion can no more tye them then the greene withes could Sampson which he brake at pleasure . Let there be an Oath advisedly penned , in tearmes most expresse and significant , with all the cautions that the wit of man can devise against all manner of evasions , and backed with never so many direfull imprecations and anathema maranathaes upon the soule of him that shall by any slight , cunning , falshood or periurie either violate or invalidate and evacuate this Oath : yet these men can with a wet finger either loosen it by a forged and forced interpretation , or untie the knot by a mentall reservation , or cut it asunder by Papall dispensation , ô ubi estis fontes lachrymarum ? Suppose a Romish Priest or Iesuit be brought before a Magistrate to be examined : if the Oath of Allegiance and Supremacie be tendered unto him , thereby to discover who he is , he will take them both in his own sense though neither in the sense of him who ministreth these Oathes , nor in the sense of the Parliament which appointed them . If hee farther demand of him upon Oath , whether he be a Priest or no , he will say he is not : reserving in his minde , ( of Apollo ) if he question him further , whether he lately came from beyond the Seas : he will forsweare it , reserving in his minde ( the red or dead Sea ) if he farther require of him whether he have received holy Orders from a Romish Bishop : he will denie it reserving in his minde ( without a Miter ) if the Examiner aske him further whether he had any speech with any English Nun at Li●borne , he will make no bones to denie it , reserving in his mind● ( chast ) . Lastly , if the Iudge or Iustice charge him to use no equivocation or mentall reservation , he will say and sweare he useth none , reserving in his minde ( to tell you ) and so he slips all knots and it may be truly said of him what Pseudolus in the Poet spake of Ballio non potest pietate obsisti huic ut res sunt caeterae , this man is oath proofe . All heretiques and miscreants deliver mendacia doctrinarum , lyes of doctrine : but these only doctrinam mendaciorum , a doctrine of lyes sodered by mentall reservation ▪ these only define doctrinally the lawfulnesse of a lye , so that which is untrue in words , be salved up with a mentall reservation . This is the strange monstrous brat of the Iesuits like a childe halfe in halfe out of the mothers wombe for so is their mixt proposition halfe uttered , and halfe concealed or reserved to themselves . This is conceived to be the invention of a Iesuit at the first , and therefore is tearmed by those who have learnedly impugned it , the Iesuits new art of lying , and true it is if we peruse the Catalogues of heretiques drawne by Epiphanius , Augustine , Philastrius , together with Alfonsus à Castro , & Ambrosius de Rusconibus , you shall light upon no hereticke who doctrinally maintained such a kinde of equivocation , especially in matter of oath to be taken before a lawfull Magistrate . It is true the Priscillianists held it to be lawfull to lye and forsweare , and some Catholiques in St. Austines time to feigne themselves Priscillianists , that they might the better entrap them and discover them : but this was fraudulent simulation , not mentall reservation : the Arch-hereticke Arius , when he was demanded whether he had subscribed or would to the Orthodox faith concerning the consubstantialitie of the sonne , answered , he had or would , pointing to a paper in his bosome , in which he had written his beliefe touching that point : but this was a fraudulent gesture , and false significatiin of his minde not a mentall reservation . Give therefore the Devill his due , this quaint kinde of lye was his prime invention as we may see in the Poet. When the Devill required of the Pagan King who was about to sacrifice unto him ; Cut me off a head , Numa instructed by his familiar appearing to him in the likenesse of the Nymph Oegeria answered , I will doe it , adding by aequivocation ( of an Onion ) when the Devill added : nay , but thou shalt take of a mans , Numa saith he will , but addeth what he reserved in his minde , ( haires ) when the Devill yet farther replyed , nay I will have the soule or life , you shall saith the King , adding what he reserved in his minde , ( of a fish ) and so plowing with the Devill his owne heifer , resolved all diabolicall riddles . See here the prototypon of Iesuiticall equivocation by addition and mentall reservation and after what copie either Garnet , or Valentia , or Navarrus , or any other of the like sect wrot who first in our age published in writing , and after in print the doctrine of equivocation by mentall reservation . Fourthly , to descrie to those that sit at the sterne in Church and Common wealth , the maine scope and marke , at which this Romish Priest and his associates ●ime , in perswading all Romish Catholiques within this Realme , to resort to our Churches , and take the Oathes both of Allegiance and Supremacie . It is as be professeth not so much for their indempni●i● from penall Statutes , as to qualifie them for other preferments , and even votes in Parliament ; to the indangering of our Religion , and governm●nt . For what should hinder them whose parts , estate , and friends are able to raise them , from attaining their desires herein , sith their Religion is now made no barre unto them , and these Oathes ( he mentions ) now serve no more for a partition Wall bet●eene loyall Protestants and disl●yall Papists : Now the Ephraimites have learned to speake Shiboleth as plaine as the Gileadites , whereas before they could but lispe Siboleth . And if these Ephraimites by this slight come to be admitted to places of greatest trust in this Kingdome , and as their birth and Baronies entitle divers of them to the House of Peeres : so they should be chosen indifferently to the House of Commons ; what a loose end all things would be at ? How suddenly might we be cheated of our Religion , Liberties , Lawes , yea and lives to ? Wherefore it were to be humbly desired of those that love the truth in sinceritie , even with bended knees , that his Maiestie and the high Court of Parliament would make some more certain distinctive signe between Papists and Protestants then monethly coming to Church , and taking the Oathes above mention●d . This Authour points at such a thing while he speakes of some Articles of th●ir faith , which it is not lawfull for them in any case to deny . If therefore it should seeme good to the wisedome of the State to prescribe such a Confession of faith to be drawn , wherein all or the most fundamentall points of their Trent faith are renounced , and by name the twelve new Articles added to the Apostles Creede in the Bull of Pope Pius the fourth , we should either soone see certainely who were Papists , and who were not , or at least give the Romish Religion a smarter blow then it ever yet received . For though this Authour speake of a Fox craft to be used by Prudent Catholiques , and though the Priests and Iesuits and the cunningest heads among the Papists would set their wits on the racke to finde out some Eshapatoir or evasion whereby they might goe beyond the State : yet they must then be inforced to denie their Religion to save it , and to alter the tenets which have hitherto beene held for currant , both among their Schoole Divines , and Casuists , namely , that it is a damnable sinne to equivocate when a man is called to give an account of his faith . For this cannot be denied to be a plaine deniall of Christ , and in their owne sense , whosoever so denieth him before men , shall be denied by him before his Father in heaven . Lastly , to shew the great strength of truth and the cleare evidence of the Protestant Religion , which convinceth the conscience of most obstinate Papists . For this Authour a man of learning and well versed in the booke cases of the Romanists , though in some places he jeares at our Preachers , and scoffes at our Religion : yet in other where he is most serious , he lets fall those passages from him which are worthy the taking up , namely pag. 6. Recusancie was first brought a●ong Catholiques into England by a certaine companie of men for temporall ends , procured covertly and by indirect meanes from twelve Fathers of the Councel of Trent , and certaine Popes upon false suggestions . The false suggestions pag. 7. et deinceps were these ▪ viz. That the Protestants of England were idolatrous and blasphemous heretiques , hating God and his Church ; that the commerce with them , especially at Church , would be an occasion of the subversion and ruine of their soules , pag. 19. In the Protestant Church there is neither id●latrie committed nor hurt done , pag. 22. Why should we not communicate with Protestants where there can be no danger of sinne ? and in pag. 23. Protestants are not to be called properly formall heretiques , pag. 41. In going to the Protestant Church there is no morall malignitie at all , in so much that scarce the weakest man can invent how to sinne by any thing that is there done , it being of its owne nature so indifferent and to a good intention good , that à parte rei , there is no appearance of evill therein , pag. 48. I never yet could finde any idolatrie committed at Protestant Churches as often as I have frequented the same , pag. 52. Protestants are not properly and in rigour formall heretiques . If Protestants are not formall heretiques it followeth necessarily that they are no heretiques at all ; for forma dat nomen et esse . If it be a false suggestion that Protestants are blasphemous heretiques hating God and his Church , then the truth is , they are neither blasphemous heretiques , nor haters of God nor his Church ; but lovers of both . If there be no idolatrie committed in Protestant Churches then God is there purely worshipped in spirit and truth . If there bee no hurt done in Protestant Churches no danger of sinne , nor so much as any appearance of evill , then are all Papists iustly to be punished who refuse to come to our Church , and they are guilty of grievous sinne in disobeying the commands of King and State , and have no pretence at all for their recusancie . Thus as Virgil when he read the obsolete writings of Ennius said , he sought for aurum instercore : so maist thou finde here gold in a dunghill : I have washed away the filth by Animadversions inserted in convenient places ; make thou use of the gold to enrich thy knowledge , and confirme thy assurance of the doctrine of the Gospel purely taught , and sincerely professed in the Church of England . Octob. 1. 1642. A TABLE OF THE SPECIALL CONTENTS . LOcks that are scrued with letters are most troublesome to unlocke if we know not the particular letters by the setting whereof together the wards flye open : such is the ensuing discourse , consisting of very many heads doubling or trebling the Alphabet as appeare by the marginall notes , yet , without any summaary contents premised or directorie Titles serving in stead of signall letters to open the severall parts and Sections thereof , It was thought therefore requisite to supply that defect in the Romish Authour by this table wherein the Reader may readily and easily finde those remarkable points which either are professedly handled , or occasionally touched therein . First in the Preface , pag. 3. Secondly in the Treatise , pag. 16. Sect. 1. pag. 26. Sect. 2. pag. 57. Sect. 3. pag. 82. Thirdly in the Appendix , pag. 143. First in the Preface . The originall of Recusancie in England , pag. 6. The Rescripts of seven Popes in the case all erroneous . pag 7. The determination of generall Councels of great authoritie , yet not infallible , pag. 12. Secondly in the Treatise . The state of the question touching going to Church with men of a different religion , explicated . pag. 16. Naamans fact bowing in the temple of Rimmon●iscussed ●iscussed . pag. 17. The words of the Prophet , 2 Kings 5.19 . goe in peace diversly expounded . pag. 18. None may dissemble his Religion , no not in feare of death . pag. 21. The res●lution ●f the Sorbon Doctors in the case of Recusancie . pag. 24. SECT . 1. The definition of scandall , pag. 26. Severall divisions of Scandall , pag. 27. The distinction of veniall and mortall sinne refuted , pag. 28. Evangelicall Councels as they call them , are not distinct from precepts , pag. 29. Povertie in it selfe is not scandalous , pag. 31 Whether our Liturgie be any part of the Missall , pag. 33. Prayers ought to be made in a knowne tongue , pag. 34. What is meant by appearance of evill , 1 Thess. 5.22 . pag. 35. In what case the eating meates offered unto Idols is forbidden by the Apostle , 1 Cor. 8. pag. 39. The definition of an heretique , pag. 51. That the faith of Protestants is no way defective , pag. 53. The Romish Clergie is grosly ignorant , pag. 54 The Protestants manner of preaching in many respects to be preferred before the Romish . pag. 55. SECT . 2. Recusancie is no distinctive signe betweene a Papist and a Protestant . pag. 57. The Protestants Sacrament is not a bare signe ; nor the holy Eucharist common bread , pag. 60. The body and blood of Christ is truly given in the Sacrament . pag. 61. The popish carnall manner of eating Christs flesh with the mouth , is repugnant to faith , reason and common sense . pag. 62. The Apostle by the Lords Supper , 1 Cor. 11.20 . meaneth not the Agapae or Love-feasts , pag. 64. A foule practise and high misdemeanour of Davenport , alias à Sancta Clara , in procuring a surreptitious Bull against Day the Franciscan , pag. 75. SECT . 3. That Papists attribute religious worship to images themselves , pag. 85. That a man being questioned of his faith , though before an incompetent Iudge is bound to answer the truth , pag. 98. That we may not dissemble with dissemblers , nor play the Fox with Foxes , pag. 99. That Papists trust in their owne merits , though some at their death have renounced them , pag. 104. The Oath of Allegiance divided into eight branches and every branch justified by Papists themselves , pag. 109. The Oath of Supremacie divided into foure branches , pag. 114. In what sense Protestants teach the King to be Head of the Church , pag. 115. Who are meant by forreiners in the Statute , pag. 120. That no Papist can take the Oath of Supremacie , but that he must renounce a fundamentall point of his Religion , pag. 138. Thirdly , in the Appendix . 1. A forme of Recantation injoyned the Lollards in the 19. yeere of King Richard the second taken out of the Records in the Tower , pag. 143. The Resolutions of the Fathers in the Councell of Trent , pag. 145. The Oathes of Supremacie Enacted 35. Hen. 8. & 1 Elizabeth , pag. 148.150 . A proviso for Expounding the Oath , 5. Elizabeth , pag. 151. The Admonition annexed to the Injunctions , Elizabeth . 1. pag. 152. The Conclusion of the Authour of the Animadversions to the Reader , pag. 154. Errata sic corrige , P. 7. in marg . state r. flat . p. 8. lin . 11. p. 7. r. 12. p. 15. l. 9. Ignorattia r. ignorantia p. 22. l. 22. the r. they p. 28. l. 15. dele the p. 42. l. 17. rejoice r. rejoyne p. 54 l. 35. proposition r. praeposition p. 64. l. 14. Apollorum r. Apostolorum p. 76. l. 6. adde 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 p. 85. l. 12. sede r. sedè p. 97. marg . l. 6. doth r. doe p. 99. l. 11. marg . adeo r. adde l. 12. r. wizards p. 140. marg . l. 6. d the appendix . A a SAFEGARD FROM SHIPWRACKE , TO A b PRVDENT CATHOLIKE . Wherein is PROOVED THAT A c Catholique may goe to the Protestant Church , And Take both the Oathes of Allegiance and Supremacie . Matth. 10.16 . Be ye wise as Serpents , and d Simple as Doves . LONDON , Printed by I. L. for Nicholas Bourne at the South entrance to the Royall Exchange , 1642. A Preface to the Reader . Gentle Reader , I Am to write of a point of Controversie , wherein I know , that I shall undergoe the e censure of divers sorts of people ; yea , amaze some at the strangenesse of the thing . Yet my intention being good , as tending to the safeguard , as well f of souls as bodies of all : and I my selfe being constrained by a kinde of naturall necessitie thereto ; as suffering much , not only by the g severitie of the Laws for my Religion ( which is the least : ) but likewise both spiritually and temporally , by the malice and treachery of some evill spirits , instigating others to take advantage by Religion : doe hope to finde approbation therein ( at least ) of the wiser sort . Although I cannot see , but why in reason ( not pretending the least prejudice to Religion , but rather the good of Gods Church , as I shall make appeare ) the weakest sort of Catholiques should not be likewise pleased therewith . For although Religion , as it is taken for Christian beliefe , ought of every man to be professed , according to St. Thomas Aquinas and other Doctors , 2a. 2ae . q. 3. at two particular times , viz. when , and as often as the glory of God shall conduce therunto , or the spirituall good of our neighbour shall be either conserved , or augmented thereby , grounding themselves , upon the words of our Saviour , Matth. 10.32 . Qui me confessus fuerit coram hominibus , confitebor & ego eum coram patre meo qui in caelis est . Every one that shall confesse me before men , I also will confesse him before my Father which is in heaven . Yet it is not necessary to salvation , that any man at all times , and in all places doe confesse his Religion without h necessitie . Whence if a man should goe out , into the Market place , and cry himselfe to be of such and such a Religion , or should write upon the frontispice of his house ( in a countrey contrary to his Religion ) here liveth a Christian , a Protestant or Catholike , his act would be thought so farre from vertue or religion , as that it would be rather deemed presumption , or the height of indiscretion . Hence it is , that although a Catholike be bound under paine of damnation to professe his religion in the twice before assigned , yet he is not bound to professe a Recusancy of a thing of its own nature indifferent , thereby at all times , and in all places to discover his Religion : for this were as much in effect , as to cry himselfe , over the whole kingdome , or to write over his doore , that he were A Catholike , or at least some Sectary . For ( as I shall hereafter say : ) Recusancy is common both to Catholikes , Brownists and other Sectaries , different in opinion from Protestants ) which would be an occasion to call himselfe in question for the Religion he professeth ; whence I may rightly describe the Recusancy of Catholikes no otherwise , then to be , an indiscreet discovery of a mans Religion without necessitie or obligation : whereby he makes himselfe lyable to the penall laws of England for not going to Church , Which was brought first amongst them into England , by a certaine company of men , for i temporall ends procured covertly , and by indirect means from twelve Fathers of the Councell of Trent , and certaine Popes upon false suggestions to the ruine of many men : That I proove what I have said , it is necessary , that I relate the manner , how it was brought in . In the beginning of Queen Elizabeths reign , and the alteration of Religion in England , Catholikes went to Church to conforme themselves to the State , as they did in K. Edward the sixths time ; yet privately kept to themselves the exercise of their owne Religion . Which some Priests , perceiving not convenient , for the propagation of their owne family , then newly hatched : wrought in the Councel of Trent , that twelve Fathers of the said Councel ( not all Bishops , yet favourers of the said family ) might be selected , to declare to English Catholikes upon these suggestions following , viz. that the Protestants of England were idolatrous and blasphemous hereticks , hating God and his Church : that their commerce , especially at Church , would be an occasion of the subversion and ruine of their soules ; denying and betraying of the true faith ; giving of scandall to men of tender conscience , as breaking that signe which was distinctive betweene the people of God and not his people ; that it was altogether unlawfull for them to goe any longer to the Protestant Church , as appeareth by the words of the said declaration , which if I had by me , I would willingly have here inserted . This declaration being thus obtained , they possessed k certain Popes ( to wit : Paul the fourth , Pius the the fifth , the two last Gregories , Sixtus , Clement , and Paul the fifth ) so strongly with the same , and the aforesaid suggestions ; that the said Popes likewise declared as it is said by certaine rescripts which I never yet could see their going to Church to be likewise unlawfull . Which said suggestions had they beene , or were they true , I should likewise say and grant it unlawfull ; but not being true , as I shall hereafter shew : the l common opinion of Divines in this point is to be followed ; to wit : that it is a thing indifferent and therefore may be lawfull to frequent the Churches of Schismaticks . Now to prove what I have said ; that it was first brought in , by a certaine company of men . It is evident in it selfe by the carriage of the businesse ; for it is altogether improbable , that one mans authoritie ( to wit , Doctor Sanders who is named to be the onely Agent herein , a man alwaies ill relished in our state , and therefore in this point to be esteemed partiall ) could select so many Fathers out of the said Councel , in a matter of such importance , upon his owne bare suggestion ; or that the said Fathers would , or ought to have declared the same ; unlesse they had been made beleeve , that the aforesaid suggestions were true , in the common opinion of most of the Priests then in our kingdome . That it was wrought for temporall ends by the said company , the event shewes the same : for there is none that have got , or do get thereby , but onely the said company ; as appeares by their abundant treasure , and rich Colledges : for Recusancie begets persecution , and persecution almes deeds , that God may assist the afflicted in their distresses . And by this Recusancie great mens children can get no learning or science within this kingdome ; but must be sent beyond the Seas , each at twentie five , or thirtie pound per annum . by which , their said family was and is propagated , and their heape increased . Further , the politicall invention of recusancie was so sweet and pleasing , by reason of the great gaine which it brought ; that one of the said company ( Authour of the answer to the libell of Justice ) all besmeared with wonted pietie , so much delighteth in tribulation , which ariseth by this recusancie ; that he would not a toleration of Catholike religion in England , if he might . Although in his answer to the Authour of the said libell he saith ( as knowing him not able to procure of Queene Elizabeth and the State , a toleration for Catholikes ) that upon certaine conditions of his , he would accept of the same : but when he speakes from his heart of the thing it selfe , he saith in his said Book , cap. 9. pag. 216. That it is such , as to aske it of God , were to aske , we know not what ; for that persecution is better . That the said declaration and Popes rescripts were got by the aforesaid suggestions , appears by the writings themselves as they are cited , and further by one R. P. of the same family , who wrote a booke printed Anno 1607. Contra Anonymum , against a man without name : ( Doctor Wright ) that it was not lawfull to frequent Churches of heretikes : where promiscuously he relates all the aforesaid suggestions , as the ground of his opinion ; and bringeth Cardinall Bellarmine and Baronius with eight others , most of them of the same Schoole for the approbation of his case . Which case as he puts it , I thinke any man living would likewise have approved . That these men above others , were so laborious and serious , for this recusancie appeares , in that , whosoever would oppose them , were presently blasted for heretikes , or at least fallen men , insomuch that Azorius who wrote that it was lawfull for a Catholike to goe to the Church of Schismaticks was so troubled by the importunitie of these suggestions , that he was constrained through feare that that part of his family , should have suffered some great temporall detriment by his judicious writing ( as they say ) to recant his opinion , and hold it not lawfull in our case of England . See the said booke pag. 106. by all which any man may easily perceive , that the aforesaid company were the busie-bodies : and that for their owne ends ( as I have said ) upon the aforesaid grounds : otherwise why should they , more then others , have beene so importune as to perswade , yea compel Azorius , who ( not perceiving ( under the species of piety their rare politicall drift ) wrote a common opinion to the whole world , to denie that common opinion to have place in England ? That the foresaid Suggestions were and are false , it is certaine by experience to any , that know the state of the Protestant Church of England : and that to the ruine of soules as shall be proved in the question following . That it was procured covertly , and by indirect meanes ; appeares in that onely twelve Fathers were chosen , and the whole Corps of the Councell left out , and amongst the rest , the Bishop of Worcester there then present ; who knowing better the State and affaires of our Countrey , then all the rest , it seemes to me that he might have beene one of the twelve , whose authoritie would have given more satisfaction to this point , to our countrey : then all the other selected . But it should seeme , that it was declared without any debate , as a matter of no great importance , although it seemeth to my weakenesse a matter of as great weight , as any that was then agitated in the said Councel : and therefore to leave a whole Councel , in so weighty a matter , that concerned the affaires of a whole Kingdome in point of Religion , and where we might have had an infallibilitie m ; and to adhere to twelve men fallible by suggestion without any debate or dispute ; in my judgement cannot be without great suspition of sinister proceedings . Partly therefore supposing and partly intending further to prove the foresaid suggestions to be false , and consequently the said Councel , and Popes to h●ve beene abused : he will indevour to examine the truth of the matter it selfe , according to the principles of Divinitie within the bounds of the Catholike Church , who wisheth all happinesse and prosperitie , aswell to the said Church , as to all the distressed members of the same , with as much brevitie , as may be , in the insuing question . A SAFEGARD FROM Shipwracke to a Prudent Catholique . Question . Whether it be lawfull n for a Catholique to go to the Protestant Church . I Answer it to be lawfull for him , who doth it without a doubtfull conscience : or thought of sin , which I say , because if a man should do that , which in it selfe is lawfull ; doubting , or not being satisfied , whether it be lawfull or no ; he would sin in doing the same : because he would put himselfe in hazzard or danger of sin ; and as the Wise man saith : Eccles. 3. Qui amat periculum peribit in eo : He that loves danger shall perish in the same . So he that thinks a thing , which in it selfe is indifferent , to be sinne , and doth the same , sinneth : because such a man hath a will to doe the thing , although it were sin ; and by reason of his sinfull will commits sin . Otherwise as I have said before , it is lawfull . Which I prove first . The thing in it selfe is not forbidden by any Law : either by the Law of God , or the Church . Not by the Law of God ; for no place of holy Scripture can be shewed , by which it is forbidden . Nor by the Law of the Church : for no Councell or Canon of the Church can be produced for the prohibition of the same . Ergo , it is lawfull . It is secondly prooved by an example of holy Scripture , Lib. 4. Reg. cap. 5. where o Naaman the Syrian Prince is permitted to goe to the Idolatrous Temple Rimmon , to waite upon the Syrian King , there offering sacrifice . Ergo , a man may be permitted to go to the Protestant Churches ; where neither Idolatry is committed or any hurt done . Againe , by the examples of Ioseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus , Joh. 19.38 , 39. who although they went to the Synagogue of Jews , and so not apparent disciples of our Saviour , yet they were his disciples in secret . For it is there said : that after the death of our Saviour , Ioseph of Arimathea , because he was a disciple of Jesus , but secret , for feare of the Jews , desired Pilate , &c. Nicodemus also came , he that at the first , came to Iesus by night , &c. by which appeares , that the Jews knew not of their Religion . It is manifest likewise , that all the Apostles as freely conversed in the Synagogues of Jews , as out of the same : when thereby they could best exercise their function and mission . For the Rhemists in their annotations upon the 20 Chapter of the Acts vers . 16. Confesse that notwithstanding the festivitie of Pentecost was established among Christians ; yet Saint Paul might hasten to the festivitie of the Jews . Therefore as these holy men , might goe to the Synagoue , and reserve their Religion to themselves : so may a Catholique to the Protestant Churches . And indeed , it is an essentiall ingredient to the Mission of all Apostolicall men , to treate and converse with all men concerning salvation , in all places best for their purpose . It is prooved , thirdly by Azorius , tom . 1. lib. 8. institut . moral . cap. 11. & 27 punct● , 2.4 . & 5. who saith : It is lawfull for Catholiques to pr●y together with Protestants , to heare their Service , and goe to their Sermons . And for this opinion he citeth , Navarr . lib. 5. Con. 10. & 12. de haeret . who as all men know was a pious Divine , and a man of a tender conscience . Againe , the said Azorius saith , in the said cap. 27. puncto 5. That if an hereticall Prince commands his Subjects that are Catholiques to goe to Church upon paine of death or losse of goods , if he doe this only because he will have his lawes obeyed , and not to make it Symbolum hereticae pravitatis , nor have a purpose to discern thereby Catholiques from Hereticks , they may obey it . Gregory Martin ( one of the translators of the Bible into English ) cited by the said R. P. in his book aforesaid , pag. 101. & 109. Diana 5. part . tract . de scandal . pag. 191. resol . 33. where he saith : a man may use the habit and ceremonies p of a false law , being in danger of death . See Hurtado de Mendoza , and others by him cited . And Paulus Comitolius , Resp. moral . lib. 1. q. 47. when he comes to handle the question : whether a Professour of the Romane faith , being sent into those parts where the Greeke Church observes other rites , may goe to their service ; he allows it , and builds upon this reason . That by the Law of God and nature , it is lawfull , and the precepts of the Church ( if any there were that forbid this ) doe not binde Christians , in cases of great detriment to the life , or soule , or honour , or fame , or outward things . See Azor. above cited , for going to the Schismaticall Church of the Greeks , where he saith , that a Catholique hearing Masse in a Schismaticall Church , there on a Sunday , fulfilleth the precept of the Church commanding the same . See further the Decree of the Councell of Constans . and Martin the 5. which beginneth . In super ad evitanda scandala , &c. for the communicating with hereticks , as well in service as otherwaies . Which Decree extends it selfe further then to our purpose . For by the same we may communicate with Hereticks fallen in a Catholike countrey , if it be not in point of heresie . Yea , receive the Sacraments of Priests excommunicated either by law , or any sentence of man , so they be tolerated , and not by name excommunicated . See Diana , pag. 175. col . 1. and the said Hurtado whom he cit●th . If then we may communicate with such men , where there may be some danger of sin ; why should we not communicate with Protestants where there can be no danger of sinne , as shall be hereafter prooved ? It is fourthly proved , by the practice of all Catholikes in forreigne Countries : for Germany ; ( See for Germany and France , Navarr . lib. 5. Consil. 12. de Heret . ) and see the foresaid Author of the answer , his words are these , cap. 9. pag. 216. And indeed if the German Catholiques had beene so restrained , persecuted q and put to death , as the English have beene these yeers ; and had not gone by halfes with the Protestants as in some places the have done : they had had perhaps farre more Catholiques at this day , and them more zealous ; and their whole Nation perchance , reduced ere this . Thus he . Where is to be noted , that his ( perhaps and perchance ) are nothing worth . For by their going to Church ( as he termeth it ) by halfes with the Protestants , their countrey became Catholike long since ; whereas his zeale of persecution , hath not converted ours yet , neither is yet like to doe . For Scotland , it is confessed by the said R. P. pag. 69. with his judgement of their miserie ins●ing thereby , ( but the truth of the miserie I shall shew hereafter ) who yet in plaine termes doth not deny my assertion , but here and there granteth that some learned discreete man , where there is no scandall , and in whom there is no danger of subversion , may goe to the Church of heretiques , and heare their Sermons . Much more ( say I ) then to the Church of Protestants ; most of whom , are not to be called properly formall hereticks : for to heresie ( as it is a sinne against faith , and maketh a formall hereticke ) is required obstinacie or pertinacie against the doctrine , declaration and sence of the Church . See Saint Thomas of Aquin. 2● . ●ae . q. 11. ar . 2o. Cajetan , Bannes idem Aragona art . 1o. Suares disput . 19. de fide sect . 3. Now what obstinacie can Protestants be said to have in their opinions with relation to a Church , they know not ? for they know none other but their owne : so that although they beleeve amisse , ( whereby they may suffer in the next world ) and speake hereticall propositions ; yet because they proceed not from an hereticall mind , or consent , they are not perfectly heretiques . Adde that I my selfe in Germany with other Catholiques of the same countrey , have gone to a Synagogue of Iewes , without any scandall or having beene judged to have done amisse . Ergo , I and others may go to a Church of Protestants without any scandall , or being judged in reason to have done amisse . And I can assure my selfe ( whatsoever others may thinke of my assurance ) that the lawfulnesse of going to Church is the common opinion of all forreign Divines that ever I conversed with , in any Vniversitie . Which in part may be proved by the fact of a certaine Catholique Lady , who going to Church in England , sent her Priest to Paris , to have this case resolved by the Sorbon Doctors , who all Subscribed , That a Catholique in England might lawfully goe to the Protestant Church . That this is true , it may be justified by some persons of great qualitie yet alive . If any English Scholler shall answer , that we went to the Synagogue of Iewes out of curiositie and when they did not exercise their rites and ceremonies . I reply , that to choose , we would have gone ( if we might have had private conveniencie unknowne to them ) to have seene their rites and ceremonies ; neither doe we set downe our intention of going : for if it may be done with any intention lawfully , especially where the whole matter of all their rites and ceremonies is alwaies conserved : ( to wit , a burning lampe with oyle for the soules departed , now as they conceive , in Limbo patrum : a place where the oblation of oyle to that purpose is alwaies kept : the tenne Commandements placed in veneration : a number of linnen rolles or bands wrote with Hebrew letters , wherwith they binde the tenne Commandements according to their distinction of feasts : the knife of Circumcision and the like ) . Which may be stumbling blocks to some weake Christians , although the men to performe these rites should not be present , why should wee not goe to the Protestant Church with some intention lawfully ? where there are onely men within bare wals saying some Catholique service by them pieced up together without any Catholique forme , not to the possible hurt of any but themselves : and whether I went to the said Synagogue out of curiositie , or out of the love of science , to reason with them about their tenets ( as then and there I did ) the more to abhorre them , yet I will assure you , that with neither of these intentions doe I goe to the Church of Protestants , and yet lawfully . It is lastly proved by reason : to goe to Protestant Churches is not of its owne nature evill ( according to the opinion of the above cited Authors , or so much as per accidens evill , as our case now standeth which will be hereafter proved ) but a thing indifferent ; so that by a good intention it may be made good , as by an evill intention made evill . For the intention and object makes the act good or bad . But a man may with a good intention doe a thing indifferent . Ergo , a man may with a good intention goe to Church . Againe , if it be unlawfull to go to the aforesaid Church ; it is either because of Scandall , or because it is a distinctive signe betweene Catholiques and hereticks ; or because there is danger of subversion or blasphemie committed . But neither of these things there occurre . Ergo , it is not unlawfull to goe . The Minor I will prove in the three following paragraphs . § 1o. That Scandall makes it not unlawfull to goe to the Protestant Church . SCandall is defined by St. Thomas 2a. 2ae . q. 43. ar . 48. and other Divines ( out of St. Hierom. in cap. 15. and 18. Matth. To be a word or deed lesse right ( or lesse good ) giving occasion to another of Spirituall ruine or falling into sinne . Neither doe they take the adverb ( lesse ) comparatively , but negatively for that , which is not good ; that is : with hic & nunc in regard of some particular circumstance of time , place , or persons , wanteth some morall rectitude or goodnesse . This Scandall may be divided into Active & Passive . Active is in him that gives it ; Passive in him that takes it ; both expressed in the holy Scritures by the verbes Active and Passive : to scandalize , and to be scandalized , Matth. 15.17.18 . Active may be subdivided into per se & per accideus . Active per se is , when a man with an expresse and certaine intention gives his neighbour occasion of sinning by some word or deed , either intrinsecally or extrinsecally evil . Active per accidens is , when besides the intention of the doer , and nature of the act done , being extrinsecally evill , or at leastwise , having some species or shew of evill ; by which occasion is taken , to the spirituall ruine of another . Passive scandall is also subdivided , into passive scandall given , and Passive scandall taken . The first proceeds from Active scandall either per se or per accidens , given and received by an other . Such was the scandall forbidden by our Saviour , Mat. 18. ver . 6. He that shall scandalize one of these little ones that beleve in me , it is expedient for him that a millstone bee hanged about his necke , and that he be drowned in the depth of the sea . And this is called Scandall of the weake or little ones to whom it belongeth ( as Saint Bernard saith ) to be ignorant and moved through weaknesse , and so be scandalized . For the perfect ( as Saint Hierome saith in the place before cited ) are not scandalized . Passive scandall taken is , when a man out of envie and malice taketh occasion of sinne by anothers words or deeds ill interpreted and misunderstood without any lawfull or probable cause . And this is called the scandall of Pharisees , which is a sinne onely to themselves , and not to be regarded of the speaker or doer ; as appeares by the answer of our Saviour , Matt. 15. ver . 14. Sinite illos , caeci sunt et duces caecorum . Let them alone , blinde they are , and guides of the blinde . Hence Divines with St. Thomas doe inferre first , that sometime Passive scandall may be without active , as it was in the scandall of the Pharisees . Sometimes active scandall may be without Passive : as when one by his bad word or deed , or ill example , doth scandalize and giveth occasion to others of falling into sinne ; and yet none are scandalized , or take the occasion given , to sinne thereby . And sometimes they may be both together , as when one by his bad example giveth , and another taketh thereby occasion to sinne . Secondly , they inferre , that no good works which are necessary , as is the observing of precepts , can give occasion of sinning to any man ; and therefore not to be omitted , to avoyd the the Passive scandall , even of the weake ones , as well observeth Alfonsus Tostatus : Because that were to sinne r mortally . ( See Bellar. de script Ecclesiast , & Possevin . in verbo . Alfonsus Tostatus . Which for no cause any man ought to doe ; but if they be s counsels which are not of necessitie to be done , or things indifferent of themselves , yet necessary to be done , for the safeguard of a mans life , or goods . Then the scandall that ariseth to some by this , that others doe them : either proceedeth from malice ; and then that is a scandall of Pharisees , and to be contemned ; and no spiritual or temporal good is to be omitted for the same . Or it proceedeth from infirmitie or ignorance , and it is the aforesaid scandall of weaknesse . And for this scandall we must refraine for a time ( according to the example of our Saviour , Matth. 17. Who to avoyd t the scandall of the Iewes concerning his poverty , bid Saint Peter goe to the Sea , &c. ) even from the workes of Evangelicall counsels and things otherwise indifferent , although necessary to be done . Or we must doe them secretly , lest the ignorant , whose minde is weake be troubled . This must be done , untill having yeilded a reason of our actions , and shewed them to be good , or of themselves indifferent , and necessary to be done for safeguard of life or fortunes : and so the scandall cease , which proceeded from ignorance . But if after a reason be yeilded , the scandall shall not cease , it is not to be esteemed a scandall proceeding from ignorance , but from malice , and to be contemned . Neither ought we then to refraine from any the aforesaid actions to avoyd this scandall . Thus Abulensis in cap. 18. Matth. q. 51. Salmeron , tom . 7. tract . 29. Estius in cap. 8. ad Cor. 1. v. 13. Diana 5. parte tract . 7o. de scand . p. 186. who expresly teacheth : that a man is not bound to loose his goods and temporall fortunes to avoyd the scandall of weake ones after an admonition and reason ( for the lawfull doing of the act ) be yeilded . Lorca in 22. q. 43. ar . 8. n. 11. and divers others cited by the said Diana . But if the great ones ( such as are Priests and Teachers ) take this scandall , and the doctrine , or action be profitable ; they are not to be regarded , for they are incurable , because they are blinde ; that is : they will not see and understand what both God and reason dictates to them . And he that is weake ( saith Estius ) may be sufficiently instructed and taught , that his brother doth well , and that he ought not to be offended by his fact . After which sufficient and full instructions , if he persevere in scandall ; it will be the Scandall of Pharisees as is aforesaid . Now to proove the assertion , which is the first branch of the Minor. Scandall , is a word or deed lesse right , apt to give occasion to another of spirituall ruine . ●ut to goe to Church is no deed lesse right ( but prudently and chiefely right ) all circumstances considered . ) Ergo , to goe to Church is no scandall , and consequenter , to goe to Church can yeeld no occasion to my neighbour of spirituall ruine ; but rather an occasion of both his temporall and spirituall conservation and edification . This Minor I prove . To goe to heare a piece of a Masse in English , is no deed lesse right . But to goe to Church , is to goe to heare a u piece of a Masse in English. Ergo , to goe to Church is no deed lesse right . The Major I prove thus : to goe to heare a whole Masse in English ( the nature of the thing considered , and abstracting from the constitution of the Church ) is not evill . For the diversitie of the language takes nothing from the goodnesse of the thing . As is manifest in the Greeke Church , where Masse is alwayes said in Greeke . So that if it be not evill in it selfe , to goe to heare a whole Masse in English , it is not evill , to goe to heare a piece of a Masse in English. And consequently not to goe to Church . Adde that in the whole Latine Church ; where it is not lawfull to say Masse in any other language then in Latine ( bec●use of the long * custome of the Church , kept alwayes on foot for this reason : that as the Catholique Religion w is universall , so should it be exercised in an universall language ) yet it is lawfull , and in use to say a piece of the Masse ( as Collects , Prayers , Psalmes , Epistles , and Gospels ) in any Language of any Countrey whatsoever within the said Church . It may be here objected first , that although to go to Church , be of its own nature a thing indifferent , yet hic & nunc , it is evill . For considering the circumstances of time and place , it hath a shew & appearance of evill , apt to occasion sin in another . From which we are commanded to abstain by St. Paul , 1 Thess. 5.22 . saying , From all shew of evill refraine your selves . To which I answer , first : That all the appearance of evill , which , going to Church hath , is , that in England above other countreys , Priests have not been freely left to the Principles of Divinitie or Lay-men to their Christian libertie ; but it hath been procured to have bin declared unlawfull upon false suggestions , and continued thus thought unlawfull by some erroneous judgements . Which my neighbour likewise phantasing erroneously apprehends it a species cast from going to Church , which indeed is not so ; nor otherwise , then if a man with a blood-shotten eye should behold glasse , & say it were red ; when a parte rei , it were white . It were very hard , if I eating fish in the lent , and one purblind seeing me eate , & apprehending it flesh , because he goes away scandalized , as thinking me to have eaten flesh , by reason of his false eyes ; that I should be said to have given him scandall . So it would seeme likewise as hard , if a broken phansie , or an erring minde should conceive evill species from mine actions , which a parte rei are no species at all of them , but quite contrary to th●ir species ; that I should thereby be judged to give scandall to little ones . No : I hope as the erroneous eyes shall beare their owne imperfections ; so the erroneous judgement shall beare its owne mistake ; and neither shall accuse me before God of the scandall of little ones . Hence I answer , secondly , to the place of the Apostle before objected , tha● the appearance or shew of evill , is to be understood ; first that it proceeds really from the act done , and that it be not only a conjecturall appearance , but morally certaine . That no man play Tom-foole in striking him that stands next him without a cause . Secondly , that the appearance proceeds not from a deed to be done of necessitie , either by the Law of God , or nature . Otherwise we might inferre the Apostle to command contradictories , to refraine and not to refraine from such a deed , whence proceeds the appearance . For if the thing be commanded by the Law of God , it must necessarily be done , or otherwise sinne . And if it were to be done by the Law of Nature ; the blessed Apostle was not so unreasonable , as to bid us refraine from a thing in its owne nature lawfull , and of necessitie to be done ; without admittance of some way to avoyd scandall . Although by reason of some circumstance , place or person , it might have a shew of evill , and so for some time be suspended , as some things of naturall necessitie ; yea , the Evangelicall counsels may have . But in such cases we are to instruct and admonish the weake ( as I by these presents doe ) that although it should seeme to them to be evill , or to have some shew of evill , yet in very deed it is not evill , but good . And I am constrained under paine of death to do the same . After which instruction and admonition , if they still persist in their scandall ; it is not a scandall of little ones , but of Pharisees and great ones . Neither doth it proceed from infirmitie or ignorance , but from malice : and is not to be regarded . So that it seemes a thing unreasonable , and in the strength of judgement against nature , that a man shall more regard the trouble of his neighbours conscience at a thing lawfull , then the hazard of his own life , and ruine of his own family and fortunes in the execution of the same . See Diana for this Doctrine and all the Authors by him above cited . If any shall here reply to my first answer of the objection , that the shew of evill is really in the act of going to Church , and not as falsely imagined : and that this shew of evill appeares not only to weake and ignorant people , but to men of understanding of all sorts ; and not only to Catholiques , but likewise to Schismaticks of all sorts : who in going to Church to save their goods , confesse that they doe it against their conscience , as conceiving it to be unlawfull by reason of the aforesaid Declaration of the twelve Fathers in the Councell of Trent , and the foresaid Popes ; which whether it were gotten by false suggestions or no , they discerne not , neither doe they dispute , but simply obey . To make up the rime in reason , the more simple they . For reason may teach great ones , and men seeming of understanding that are Schismaticks or Lay-Catholiques the contrary ; ( because nothing is done at Church which is either evill or hurtfull : ) and both reason and learning Priests . And therefore I rejoyce with Aristotle : Propter illorum cogitare , nihil mutatur in re , and say , that the shew of evill proceeds not from the act of going to Church . For in all King Edwards time , and the beginning of Queene Elizabeths time , untill the thirteenth yeere of her Raigne , when all Catholiques did or might goe to Church , going to Church by Catholiques then being in fashion ; none took scandall thereby : because there was then , no shew of evill . And why should there be now more shew of evill in the act , then at that time ? If ye answer by reason of the aforesaid Declaration . I reply that then the species of evill , ought to be in the said Declaration , as gotten upon false grounds , and not in the act of going to Church ; which any man might easily perceive , considering the nature of the act it selfe . And the experience of our distressed countrey teacheth us , that those indirect proceedings are more apt to generate scandal , then the act of going to Church , which of its own nature is lawfull , and hath been lawfully practised and approved by the common opinion of all Divines of any indifferency in other countreyes , and so might have been in ours , had it not been for turbulent people , who for their owne ends have more troubled the Church in procuring of breves and rescripts then all other nations besides of our condition . To Schismaticks , I say they sin not , in simply going to Church , but in going to Church with an ill conscience , as thinking that to be sin , and doing the same ; which indeed is not so : and the ground of their errour , they have had from the misunderstanding of Catholiques . To weake ones I answer , desiring them to be satisfied , because I have and shall prove the thing in it selfe to be lawfull , and that I am ( as I have said ) in danger and hazard of my life , in not doing the same . So that by a naturall necessitie I am bound to it . Which necessitie if it were not ; I might peradventure rest in the common Maxime of Philosophers . Frustra fit per plura , quod potest fieri per pauciora . It is in vain done by more , that may be done by lesse . It may be objected secondly , that it is as much scandall to goe to Church , as it was to eate of those meats offered to Idols . Of which Saint Paul speaks , 1 Cor. 8. the eating of which in it selfe considered , although the Apostle thought no sin in Wise men , or great ones ; because they did eate the same without any relation at all to the Idoll , as he seemeth to intimate , verse , 4. yet because some ignorant Christians ( seeing the said Wise men eate ) did likewise eate the same meats with conscience and devotion , as if the said meats had received some vertue or sanctification from the Idol . Saint Paul exhorted the Wise men , to abstaine from eating the said flesh ; for that out of mistake and misunderstanding of their eating : the aforesaid Christians , then newly converted did take offence and sin . Whereupon in great zeale he said , vers . 13. If meate scandalize my brother , I will never eate flesh , lest I scandalize my brother . So that one would thinke , that the blessed Apostle would rather have chosen to die ( as the aforesaid words may import ) then by eating the said meats or any flesh to have scandalized his brother . And St. Augustine in expresse termes , lib. de bon . conjugali cap. 16. saith : It was farre better to have dyed , then to have eaten of those meats so offered to Idols , conformable to himselfe elsewhere : who likewise saith . That a man may not commit ( or occasion ) so much as a x veniall sinne , to gaine the whole world . Which he that giveth scandall , must needs at the least commit . Therefore what the said Apostle and St. Augustine said and thought of the eating of the said meats ; the same ought every Catholique to take as said of the act of going to Church . I answer , denying the consequence : and say that there is a great disparitie betweene the said meats offered to Idols , and eaten in the temple with Infidels : and the act of going to Church . First , because in the meats so offered , there was not only a shew and appearance of evill , but a morall malignitie therein , as well to great , as to little ones . Which although the wise did take away , that the said malignitie touched not them ; yet the weake neither did , or had understanding so to doe . Whence the Apostle said , vers . the 7. that there was not knowledge in all . For the morall malignitie ; that was in those meats to all , was a prophanation and impuritie in them , as being things dedicated to the Idol or the Devill . So that as a man receiveth good by holy ? bread or things sanctified ; so he receiveth evill by a thing : prophaned or maligned . Which morall malignitie the Wise taking away ( as I have said ) by blessing the said meats to the use of their bodies , and conceiving both them , and the Idoll as they were in themselves , meere creatures , both created for the use of man , did eate what was usefull to eate without sinne . Whereas the weake , not so much as considering the prophanenesse of the meats , but ( seeing the Wiser eate ) with error of judgement conceived vertue and sanctification in the same : as being eaten in the temple and offered to the Idol by Infidels , and so with conscience and devotion they received the same : and were ( as the Apostle saith , in the said seventh vers . ) polluted thereby . Now in going to Church , their is no morall malignitie at all ; in so much , that scarce the weakest man can invent how to sin by any thing that is there done . It being of its owne nature so indifferent , and to a good intention , good , that a parte rei their is no appearance of evill therein . If any one say that there is appearance of evill , and scandall by reason of disobedience , in that , the act is done contrary to the declaration of the said twelve Fathers , and certain Popes . I answer , that the declaration is , as if it were not ; because gotten upon most false suggestions , as I have and shall say ; and consequently the minds of the said Fathers and wils of the said Popes is to us in this matter as yet unknowne : and the species or shew of evill from thence proceeding , rather to be lamented then regarded . If the reply be made as before , that the suggestions are not examined , but the will of the aforesaid Superiors hath alwaies beene held , as declaring that which hath been best for the soule , and dehorting from going to Church , and that so by reason and vertue hereof , there results a certaine shew of evill , in doing the same , which maketh it appeare to most men unlawfull , and consequently scandalous . I rejoyce as before , that the instruction and admonition of the indifferencie and necessitie of the act , ought to take away all scandall howsoever apprehended : and that such as apprehend it unlawfull , and will not be satisfied , cannot doe it . And lastly such as will not be satisfied , but scandalized , are not to be regarded , as I have said before . Adde out of Navar Man. c. 23. n. 38. That it is not a sinne in a man , not to obey his superiour , when he hath probable reasons to thinke , that his superiour was deceived in so commanding , or that he would not have given such a command , if he had knowne the truth . And if any shew of evill result , or scandall arise in that he is not obeyed , the necessitie of doing the contrarie act , being in danger of death , must excuse and take away all scandall , for in such a case no humane lawes binde as I shall hereafter say . I answer to this Objection secondly , that there is a disparitie betweene the said meates , and going to Church , in that the said meates were not to be eaten of necessitie : that is , there was neither hazard of life or goods in abstaining ; or more gaine then prejudice of soules in eating . And therefore it was more requisite , that the wise should abstaine in a matter of so little moment or necessitie where there was scandall , then that the weake should have been instructed and admonished , that it might have beene done without sinne , which is not so , in going to Church . For in abstaining from thence , there is both hazard of life and fortunes , and as I shall hereafter say , losse of soules : and therefore of necessitie , the weake are to be admonished and instructed , that there is no sinne in the act : neither is going to Church prejudiciall , but advantageous to soules , as experience teacheth . Adde that if there were any humane law or Ecclesiasticall law forbidding going to Church , it were not to be fulfilled with hazard of life or goods ( as all Casuists hold ) See Azorius & Navarr . consil . de haeret . above cited : if otherwise it doth not appeare forbidden by the law of God. For all humane lawes tend to the preservation and conservation of the whole man , even in the greatest state of perfection : and where by reason of keeping a law ; disjuncture either of soule or body may probably follow ; there that law is for the time to be suspended : as appeares in the law forbidding to eate flesh in the Lent , saying the divine office , with danger of being apprehended and the like : where the weake ones are rather to be instructed of the necessitie of suspending the law , then the body to perish by keeping the same : the same say in our case . And I doe with reason perswade my selfe , considering the Apostles whole discourse in the aforesaid 8. Chapter to the Corinthians , that notwithstanding his words , verse the 13. if there had beene no other food to have beene gotten for him , to have preserved him from famine , then the said flesh so offered to Idols , that he would rather have perswaded the weake ones , that there had beene no sinne in it , if with due circumstances they had eaten , and how , and in what manner they might safely have eaten , and so have prevented his sinning against the brethren , verse 12. and striking their weake consciences , then by abstaining from that ( and as is supposed wanting all other food ) have perished through hunger . It may be objected thirdly , that those famous Doctors of Rhemes , William Allen ( afterwards Cardinall ) Richard Bristoe , William Reynolds , and the aforesaid Gregory Martin ; who translated the whole Bible into English with annotations upon the same , in many places , as well of the Old Testament , as of the new , held it unlawfull for any Catholike to goe to the Protestant Church . Ergo , It is unlawfull and scandalous to goe to the same . To the antecedent I answer , that the said Doctors were reverend and learned men , and their worke renowned : but because they would have the same goe forth with more l●stre , as pleasing the Pope ; and to avoid all opposition of the aforesaid suggestors , they forsooke the common opinion of Divines in two points then agitated : the one , that the Pope could not depose Kings of their temporall dominions . And the other , that Catholiques might frequent the Churches of Schismaticks . Which they might well doe for their ends , being Doct●rs , and giving some seeming probable reas●ns for the same ; the contrary opinions not being condemned by the Church , but left under dispute . Yet hence the consequence doth not appeare true . For if the aforesaid Doctors had spoken from their hearts , grounding themselves upon the Church or reason ; their interpretation of Scriptures with notes , would with me in these poynts have had great authoritie ; and the conclusion have stood good . Whereas now one of the said foure , to wit : Gregory Martin having delivered his opinion that it was lawfull for a Catholike to goe to Church , as appeares by the said booke of R. P. pag. 109. and 110. it seemeth they did not speake in that point their mindes freely : peradventure because it was not expedient for all sorts of people : which I confesse to be the best reason . Yet for Gods sake let us speake the truth in these troublesome times to men ( at leastwise ) of reason and understanding . Againe the very reasons they give in their annotations upon the fifth Chapter and 19. verse of the 4. booke of Kings doe shew , that they did intend but seeming reason , and not wholly convincing ; for whereas for our opinion is , and alwaies hath beene usually brought the example of y Naaman the Syrian , permitted ( as I have said before ) by the Prophet Elizeus , to goe to the Idolatrous temple Rimmon ; which is most proper to our case ; the aforesaid good Doctors reject the said example as nothing like to the same . 1. The first reason is , because of the time , for since the preaching of Christs Gospel ( say they ) we are more strictly commanded to professe our faith , then in Naamans time . Which reason I conceive under favour to be impertinent as well to Naamans case as to ours : for the doing of an act indifferent , may neither be a profession or a deniall of faith , but a meane betweene both , viz. a not discovery of the same . Neither was it more lawfull in Naamans time to deny God , then now . 2. The second Reason is , because of the place : For that the Noblemans religion was not practised in the Countrey where he went to the temple : and so there could no scandall arise thereby . This reason is in my judgement besides the purpose : for no more is Catholike religion practised in this Countrey where we goe to Church . Again , it proves not Naamans case hereby more lawfull , then the going to Church ; for there may be scandall , where a thing of its owne nature may be lawfully done : as there might have beene scandall in our Saviours povertie , Matth. 17. if he had not prevented it . And there may be no scandall , and yet the act unlawfull . Therefore if it were lawfull abstracting from scandall , that being in our case easily avoyded , or taken away , the thing may still remaine lawfull . For if he that goeth to Church be a knowne Catholike , the weake are to be admonished of the indifferencie of the thing , and the urgent necessitie he hath , to doe it ; and so scandall is avoyded . If he be not knowne ; how can he give more scandall , then Naaman did ? or to whom ? 3. The third reason is , because of the difference of persons , in that Naaman had an Office to serve the King in the temple , and therefore he might goe , lest otherwise the King should have thought himselfe disdained . This reason seemes to me very strange : that a man may goe to Church to serve his King , and may not goe to Church to serve himselfe ( when as charitie alwayes beginneth at home : and if a man be naught in or to himselfe , to whom can he be good ? ) or that feare of displeasure through apprehended disdaine , can excuse a man from doing that which were otherwise unlawfull ; as though a man were not bound , rather to suffer the displeasure of his King , with losse of his life , then suffer wrack of his owne conscience : and if feare of displeasure did excuse Naaman , why should not the danger of death , losse of fortunes , ruine of posteritie , and the like , excuse Catholiques ? 4. The fourth reason , and most especiall difference is ( say they ) that Naaman made a promise before the Prophet and his own train , that he would from thence forth serve onely the true God : and to that purpose carried earth with him to make an Altar for sacrifice . Whereas those that goe to the Protestant Church , doe not renounce all heresies , nor professe to frequent Masse , &c. But ( pray give me leave to say ) they doe ; and that herein , there is no difference at all . For Catholikes that goe to Church are knowne to their Confessaries , and their minde and intention is likewise to him knowne , as Naamans was to the Prophet . And if they be knowne Catholiques , their beliefe is likewise knowne , at leastwise to their traine , if not to others , by their communion with the See of Rome ; so that herein there is no disparitie at all . And if they be not knowne ; it is prudence to keepe themselves so , more then to their Confessaries ; which is a sufficient protestation in these troublesome times . For I wonder by what law a m●n is bound to make any other Protestation of his beliefe for the doing of a thing indifferent ? So that ( as I have said ) for the said foure reasons , and likewise because there is Idolatrie committed at Protestant Churches , ( which I never yet could finde , as often as I have frequented the same , and doe hope to prove the contrarie ) the aforesaid Doctors make it unlawfull and scandalous to goe to Church ; and our case different from Naamans . Hence they liken it to that of Eleazarus and the other Maccabees , 2 Mac. 6.7 . who were commanded by eating Swines flesh to depart from the law of God , and their fathers . Which ( say they ) by no meanes was lawfull to doe , or to make shew of doing the same : And a man may sweare it true . For Swines flesh being forbidden by the law , they were bound under sinne , to abstaine from the same . And if they should have made their brethren beleeve in words , that they had eaten , they would have told an untruth , with dissimulation in a matter forbidden by the law , both which were z mortall sinnes : which is as farre different from our case , as light from darknesse . For we contend that to goe to a Protestant Church , is by no law forbidden , but a thing indifferent , and by a good intention may be made really good without any dissembling . And they bring us an example of a thing , which in doing , many sinnes are committed : so that for the reasons which I have given , I conceive that the authoritie of the said rewoned Doctors concludeth nothing against our assertion ; unlesse the Protestants were an assembly of fallen heretiques , where there were danger of sinne by subversion or the like , which can never be proved . It may be fourthly objected , that it is the common opinion of men , that to go to Church is scandalous , because it is a signe of hereticall falshood , and a man so doing is reputed as fallen , both of Catholiques and Protestants . I answer , that it is false ; and experience teacheth us the contrary . For who made it such a signe ? and Schismaticks that goe to Church with an ill conscience , only to save their goods , notwithstanding in this , they are accounted to hurt onely themselves , yet of all Catholiques they are trusted and esteemed as honest men , and of Protestants they are esteemed no other . And they sinne not ( as I have said ) in going to Church , but in going with an ill conscience , and being barred of simple Priests from other meanes of salvation , and in doing so , give scandall . But you will say : they deny their faith in this act . I deny that . They deny onely recusancie with an ill conscience , and not religion . Yet I grant that such Schismaticks professe no faith at all . And if there be any other opinion of men concerning them , it is malicious and pharisaical , generated by the craft and deceit of others , under the species of pretended piety , making people beleeve , that there is sinne and scandall in the act , when there is none ; and if any Protestant thinketh otherwise of this ; they have it from the erroneous customary opinion of some Catholiques revealing the same . It may be objected fifthly . To communicate with heretiques is sinne , and scandall : but to goe to Church , is to communicate with heretiques . Ergo. It is sinne and scandall . To which I answer , first distinguishing the Major : to communicate with hereticks publikely , and particularly denounced to be such , or in their heresie . I grant the Major , but deny the Minor in the same sence ; but to communicate with heretiques not denounced such , not in point of heresie , to be sinne : that is most false : for then we should neither eate , drinke , buy or sell , with Protestants which is most absurd . Which absurditie to take away , and all scruple rising from thence by communicating with heretiques as well in service as otherwaies , was the before mentioned constitution of Martin the fifth , prudently made . Adde that if we may not communicate with Protestants in going to Church , we must communicate with Brownists in refraining the Church , and so be thought the same with them , or else every one must be bound to get himselfe convicted for a Popish Recusant , that so Protestants may know him to be a Catholique and no Brownist ; and so to avoyd water he must runne into the fire . If you answer , that so he goeth not to Church it maketh no matter what Protestants thinke of him , for Catholiques know what he is . I reply then by the same reason , that if he goe to Church , it maketh no matter what Protestants thinke of him , for Catholiques may likewise know what he is . I answer secondly , that the Major supposeth what is not granted . viz. That Protestants with whom I goe to Church are formall heretiques : which I desire to be first proved . For an heretique is he that obstinately denieth any article a of faith proposed by the Catholique Church to be beleeved . How can a Protestant be said obstinately ( which includes a knowne infallibility rejected ) to deny an article proposed by the Catholique Church ( as I have said before ) when he beleeves b none other Church , but his owne ? For although Protestants hold divers tenets contrary to the Catholike c Church ; which have been justly condemned in their Authours as heretiques . Yet whether obstinately held in them ( the contrary not being sufficiently proposed at leastwise to most of them ) I much doubt . For as Diana saith , 5a. parte pag. 240. col . 1a. A man speaking heresie , that is , a proposition condemned by the Church , without an hereticall consent , is no heretique : neither in curreth excommunication denounced against heretiques ; so that although they be incredulous d , and beleeve not the truth ; yet they are not properly , and in rigor formall heritiques . Adde that there is no more sin , to goe to the Protestant Church , then to goe to them to dinner , or to goe with them to a play , or other sports . And I for my part had rather give twelue e pence to heare a Sermon , then take five shillings to see a play . For there is no such sport as to heare a weake fellow speake fustian with gravitie , or tell a fable of the whore of Babylon , or f Babylonians ( for so now they terme Catholiques ) with erected eyes in earnest . Or why should it be more lawfull to see a play where most commonly intercedes scurrilitie and obscene gestures , and the end of which , is nothing , but vanitie : then to heare a Sermon , where perhaps in some places or by some simple men , their may be some untruth told of the Pope to please their Auditory ; although most commonly nothing but moralitie , which is the end and intention of the same ? I pray resolve me ! § 2. It is not unlawfull to goe to Church , because Recusancie is a distinctive signe . Which is the second branch of the Minor. THat Recusancy is a distinctive sign of a Catholique from a Protestant is most false . Which is thus proved . If Recusancie be a distinctive signe , it is a signe naturall or by institution ; but neither can be said . Ergo , it is no signe . The Minor is proved . Not naturall , for as Hurtado above cited well observeth . Actions and things are not of their own nature significant : but have naturall and politicall uses independent of any signification . For a bush hung out at a Taverne doore doth naturally signifie no more wine to be sold , then any other creature whatsoever . Nor doth the habit of a Bishop naturally signifie a Bishop more then a Judge : and so of other things . No more doe naturally the actions of men . But admit that Recusancy were improperly said a naturall signe , yet it would naturally signifie no more a Catholique then a Brownist ( for he refuseth likewise to goe to Church ) or any other Sectary . Although a posteriori it might be thought by discourse to signifie some one displeased with the Protestant Church , but why , or wherefore , it would never signifie . Not by institution : for if so , who instituted the same ? God , or man ? Not man ; for it is out of his power , to signe the people of God , from not his people . It is only the owner of the flocke , that must signe the sheepe , and none other ; unlesse , it be by speciall order from him . Hence when God would signe his people in the old Testament , from the people of other Nations ; he himselfe instituted Circumcision , Gen 17. as a distinctive signe betweene them and others : that whosoever had that signe , should be of his people ; and who so had it not , was to be rejected . Neither was it sufficient that any man had accidentally , and by the institution of Abraham , any other signe , by which he might be knowne from others : because he was not thought sufficiently marked , nor accounted any one of Gods people , by any other sign then Circumcision . Which was the sole marke of God , saying : All the male kinde of you shall be Circumcised . And this is consonant to reason . For one man may get a distinctive signe of another mans institution ; shall God therefore own him ? Brownists ( as I have said ) have Recusancie , doth it therefore follow , that they are likewise Catholiques ? If a sheepe in my neighbours flocke should teare an eare in a bramble , or bush , or accidentally breake an horne ; this sheepe is hereby distinct from the rest ; yet the owner , doth not own it by that marke : but by a marke of his own institution and ruddle . So it is in the present . That God did not institute the same , it is so evident , that it needs no proofe . For where may we finde his institution ? Vnlesse we should run to the all-knowing spirit of hereticks . Hence it follows that Recusancie is no distinctive signe . If you aske me , what is then the signe to know a Catholique from any other Sectary ? I answer . His beleefe of the Creed of the Catholique Church , and his l●fe at all times in communion with the See Apostolique . So Stratford , lib. 2. de Eccles. cap. 6. pag. 188. It may be here objected , first the common opinion of Divines ( as the said R. P. saith ) 2a. 2ae . q. 3. To use a distinctive signe of a false religion , that properly is such , is a deniall of faith , and evill in it selfe . But the Service said in a Protestant Church is such . Ergo. I grant the Major . For if the signe be proper of a people rejected of God as ( since the promulgation of the Gospel ) Circumcision is to a Jew , the Major must needs be true . But if the signe be garments or the like , used to the worship and ceremonies of a false law , which some fondly call a proper signe , then the Major , meaning the use of such a signe to be a denyall of faith is false according to Diana resol . 34. pag. 191. above cited , Azorius , Sanches , and many others there . Because such signes being naturall things , may be lawfully used ( as I have said before ) independent of any such signification ; and so not properly signes ( whatsoever R. P. saith to the contrary upon his own bare word ) . The Minor proposition I deny . For who instituted that service to be such a signe ? not God , as all Catholiques will confesse ; but rather the contrary , it being Catholique . Not themselves ; for it would savor too much weakenesse , to thinke that they would institute to themselves , a signe of a false religion . And if it be taken for a signe naturally ( although improperly ) signifying : then I say of its own nature , it signifies no more a false Religion in a Protestant , then a pious ceremony in a Catholique . For Catholiques say the g same service . Catholiques preach moralitie , and each h may if hee please , receive bread and wine once in a day , in a weeke , or a moneth , in remembrance that Christ dyed for him ; and this shall be better done , then to eate bread and wine , without such remembrance : For receiving bread and wine : See that deduced out of Azorius , tom . 1. lib. 8. instit . moral . c. 11. & Navar. consil . 15. de haeret . num . 2. Which were , but to renew ( in an urgent point of necessitie ) the old custome in the Apostles time , as appears by the Corinthian Christians in Saint Paul , 1 Cor. 11. who did eate and drinke in the Church , besides what they received of Christs institution as his true and reall body and blood . For after the Sacrifice and Eucharist was ended , there were kept Church feasts for the reliefe of the poore , upon the common charges and charitie of the rich . By which the charitie and unitie of all sorts were much preserved : for which cause the said feasts were called Charities of the ancient Fathers ; and of Saint Paul , vers . 20. they were called Coenae i dominicae , our Lords Suppers : because they were made in the Churches , which then were called Dominicae , that is , our Lords houses : in which feasts , because there hapned , some foule abuses ( which the Apostle rebuking , vers . 22. Why have ye not houses to eate and drinke in ? or contemne ye the house of our Lord , &c. ) they were taken away . See Con. Gang. 11. Con. 3. Laod. can . 27.28 . Apollorum , can . 39. Clemens Alex. S● . Iust. S● . August contra Faustum , lib. 20. cap. 20. St. Chrysost. hom . 27. in 1 St. Ambrose upon this same place : by which it appeares no new thing for Catholiques to take some thing with a good intention , besides , what was instituted by Christ. Here some may aske , whether it belongs to me out of my authoritie to institute or renew this pious ceremony in taking bread and wine in remembrance of the death of Christ , generally for the prudent Catholiques of England ? I answer no. God forbid that I should presume to institute or renew any ceremonie in the Catholique Church : but I doe onely in compassion of their miseries , present to their necessitie ( if any be in danger of death , losse of fortunes , or ruine of posteritie , and cannot expect leave from the supreame Pastor of our soules ) the doctrine of Claudius Carinnus de vi & pot . leg . human . c. 10 : that even in lawes , every particular man hath power to interpret the same to his advantage , and to dispense with himselfe therein , if there occurre a sudden case of necessitie , and there be no open way and recourse to the Superiour , much more then , said I , in a pious ceremonie against which there is no law forbidding the same . And if you reply that this is taken in a strange Church . I answer , That in case of necessitie , the pl●ce is impertinent to the thing . For Saint Bonaventure , that great and pious Doctor using much jaculatory prayers , and being upon the place of naturall necessitie , and there uttering some of the said prayers , the Devill asked him , Whether that were a place to pray in ? to whom he answered , in opusc . Hic et ubique meum licet orare Deum . That it was lawfull to praise God in all places : and to receive bread and wine in a Protestant Church from a Minister , or to receive the same in a Taverne from a Vintners boy : the godly onely know the difference . If you reply againe , that so we may offer Incense to an Idol in a temple ( because we may burne perfume , and the Idol we know to be nothing ) I deny that : and the disparity is in this , that in offering Incense , the act and shew there tends to the honour and worship of the Devill . For the place being dedicated to him , whatsoever is therein done as an usuall ceremonie is taken ( whatsoever the intention be ) as done to his honour . Which act as it is unlawfull in it selfe to be done , because pretended Idolatrie , wherein Gods worship is given to the Devill , at least in outward shew : so it is unlawfull to faine in words the act to be done , becau●e it is dissembling ( the object it selfe being likewise forbidden by the law of God ) both which are great sinnes , and apt to cause great scandall : which I shall make appeare , not to be in our case , where I co●tend , there is no sinne in the act , nor yet dissembling , nor the object forbidden . If you reply thirdly , that there is dissembling in going to Church ( as going two waies in Religion contrary to the Scripture ) for thereby I seeme to be otherwise then I am : the reply is false , for I professe but one religion which is Catholique , and at Church I doe but observe the picture of true religion ill formed , which is but a humane act not hurtfull , but by a pious intention may be made good , by which all hypocrisie and dissimulation may be avoyded . And if I seeme to Protestants to be a Protestant ; what am I the worse for that ? I never yet could finde any law , to ground an action against the censures of men . If they censure me to be a Protestant , I am not under their scourge for religion , unlesse they will on purpose make an Act of Parliament to cut off my head , which shall be no president for any other Iudges or Iustices : and then I must set up my rest with a Noble man , saying , Contra potentiam non est resistentia . There is no resistance against power . But continuing alwaies loyall both to my King and Countrey , and obedient to God and his Church , and in so doing , giving both God and Caesar their due , and that without either sinne or dissembling . I had rather they censure mee unjustly ( yet according to the lawes established , for I alwaies stand pro Rege & Lege ) and so misse their aime by an Ignoramus , then I loose my life by a pure might . But hence it doth not follow , for all their censure , that I am a Protestant : for to be so , I must beleeve the 39. Articles of the Church of England , which is the definition of a Protestant . Which Articles or any other tenents of theirs I meddle not with : for if I must doe all things contrary to Protestants , lest I should be thought so ▪ when they eate , I must fast ; and when they sleep , I must wake ; which is ridiculous . As for their thinking me a Protestant , it proceeds from want of knowledge : for they or most of them neither k knowing what a Protestant , or Catholique indeed is ( if Catholiques went to Church , they would not know how to distinguish , or persecute them ; it being lawfull among them , for every one to beleeve l what he pleaseth ) may easily thinke amisse of me . And for me to take benefit of their ignorance , and to hide my selfe in persecution , untill either the glory of God , or good of my neighbour shall urge me to discover my selfe : I cannot yet finde my selfe by any law forbidden . It may be objected secondly , that there were divers Statutes made upon the alteration of Religion , in the 2.5 . and 6. yeers of Edward the sixth ; and 1. and 23. of Q●eene Elizabeth in hatred of God and his Church , as that the Masse should be abrogated , and all the Kings subjects should come to Church to heare such Service as was then o●dained , to distinguish betweene Catholiques and Protestants ; and that whosoever should say , or heare Masse afterwards , should incurre certaine penalties , as by the said Statutes appeares . But no man could obey these commands without sinne . Ergo. I answer , that I know not much to what purpose this objection can serve R. P. that made it . For all Divines as well Catholiques as Protestants know : that all humane lawes binde in conscience no ●urther , then they are consonant and conformable to the divine law . And as farre as they command lawfull unitie and uniformitie to the good of the common wealth ( which is the chiefe thing that States men aime at , mens consciences being left to themselves ) they may be obeyed , as I h●ve said out of Azorius tom . 1o. lib. 8. instit . moral . cap. 27. puncto . 5o. And for as much as concerned the abrogation of Masse ( which by the law of God was unlawfull ) they did consequenter to the State government then ; for having rejected the authoritie ●f the Pope , they likewise rejected the Masse ; as knowing that there could be no Masse without Priests , nor Priests without the Pope . And therefore taking as much of the Masse , as would serve for their Service , and to be independent of the Pope , they left the rest . But that they did it in hatred of God and his Church : or for any distinction sake , it is altogether improbable . For what would a man get , by hating of God ? or the Church , of which himselfe must be a member , to be saved ? or how could they make a distinction of that they knew not ; for the Protestant Church was not then knowne , or scarce established . And therefore without wholly granting the Major , or distinguishing the Minor. I answer , that every one ought under paine of damnation to obey his temporall Prince in matters lawfull . Yet to suffer for his religion , and ( abstracting from all obedience either to Statute or Resc●ipt ) not for Recusancie . It may be objected thirdly , that of S. Paul to the Romans 10.10 . With the heart we beleeve unto justice : but w●th the mouth confession is made to salvation . Ergo , No man can goe to Church . I deny the sequele , and to the Antecedent I answer , that according to Divines ; a man is bound to confesse his religion Semper , sed non ad semper : alwaies , but not at all waies : that is , not at all times , and in all places : but as I have said before out of Saint Thomas of Aquin in the said two cases , viz. as often as the honour and glory of God requires the same , or the spirituall profit of our neighbour shall exact it , as likely to be impaired by silence : which to be requisite I have before granted . Yet hence it doth not follow , that I am bound to goe into the Market place and cry out ; I am a Catholike , who will punish me ? or before I am called to publish my religion , to make my selfe be called ; or to live and converse to the same time , as having a setled being , and not going to Church . I read that Saint Faelix going to martyrdome , S. Adauc●us , came to the Officers that led him thither , and said to them , that he lived in the same law with Saint Faelix , and therefore that they should likewise put him to death . Yet I conceive that he had a speciall revelation for the same ; and that it is no warrant for our indiscretion . If it be replyed , that so a man shall professe no religion . I answer the inference to be naught ▪ for suppose a mans recusancie were never discovered , this man professeth some religion ; for he doth not live a heathen . Why then recusancie being rejected , should he not professe the same ? If it be said , that it is written , that no man can serve two masters rightly . Yet a man may serve one Master , and have a servant to serve him , or he may serve one master , and keepe or use that Masters picture , howsoever ill it be drawne . It may be objected fourthly , that the Rescript of Pope Paul the fifth , in which he writes to the Catholiques of England , declareth , that they ought not to goe to the Churches of Heretiques , or heare their Sermons without detriment of the divine worship , and their owne salvation . To which I answer , that the said Pope wrote both piously , fatherly , and Apostolically , according to the aforesaid suggestions by him received : and if he had had the truth of the state of England , I beleeve he would have written as piously the contrary . For put the case , that those zealous suggestors had presented to the consideration of the Councel of Trent , or the Pope himselfe the truth and lawfulnesse of Catholiques going to Church , with these seven reasons following : supposing an absolute necessitie . 1. First that there is no evill or harme done or said in the Protestant Churches to the prejudice of any Catholike soule , that may not either be hindred , or prevented very well , by the instruction of Priests ; for they preach not against any notable point of doctrine held in the Catholique Church ( although m some simple Minister for want of matter may glance at some of our tenets by halfes understood : or in these daies to please his auditorie may raile against the Pope , which he doth so irrationally , that few Protestants of any judgement do beleeve him ) for if he should seriously preach controversies as insisting seriously upon the true doctrine of both sides , his Auditors ( or at lest some of them ) would be apt to doubt , and so to search and dive further into the truth : for as Saint Augustine saith , doubt begets science , which might be an occasion of somes falling from him , which fearing , he is silent in doctrine , and onely teacheth moralitie : which why a man may not heare in urgent extremity from any man , I cannot conceive . 2. Secondly , that their going to Church , would be a conservation and a preservation of their lands and goods , with a prevention of ruine to the family and posterity . 3. That it would be a means to obtaine and purchase the love of their neighbours ; and a meanes of their conversion by an affable conversation ; by which likewise they might beare the greatest Offices in the common wealth : and become n Parliament men as well as others : of whom and whose power and force in matters of Religion , these dayes can somewhat declare . 4. Fourthly , that it would be a meanes , that whereas Priests leave their Colledges , and now live in private mens houses , to the benefit of one or two , and to the great danger of themselves and their Patrons ; they might by this meanes more freely converse with all sorts of people after an Apostolicall manner , and convert many to the honour of God , the increase of his Church , and good of their owne soules . Whereas now they doe little good out of that private house , unlesse maintaine some decayed gentlewomen in good clothes to gossip up and downe ; and like bels to ring their praises , that they may fish one in a yeere to the disparagement of their function , and great prejudice of their Mission . 5. Fifthly , that divers Schismaticks that now goe to Church with an ill conscience , and thinke themselves in state of damnation , doe suffer spirituall detriment , and oftentimes being prevented with sudden death everlastingly perish . 6. Sixthly , many thousands that are very morall and well affected Protestants , were it not for the stop of Recusancie would become Catholiques . Which , rather then they will undoe themselves and Family , now will not heare of it . 7. Seventhly , that no poore Catholique that is not able to give twenty pound per annum with their children to some Colledge beyond the Seas , can bring them up , either in science or any other art or trade by reason of Recusancie : and this , to the ruine of all poore people : many having a very great charge , and small revenues ; and part of that likewise taken away for Recusancie . Againe , if the aforesaid suggestions had presented to their consideration , the meanes and wayes of Conversions of kingdomes in generall , as that they ought to be done either by miracles , warre , or policie . And have reasoned , that for miracles , they were not to be expected ; for that those , God ordinari●y granted but to Infidels , and where by secondary causes , they were not probably fezible : that by warre they could not be done , without a great deale of blood-shed , which ought to be avoyded ; and most commonly with a great deale of rebellion and treachery , which were utterly unlawfull . And that they were fezible in policie , by civilly conversing , intermingling and insinuating themselves by degrees into the conversation of all sorts of people . So that in time a good effect might have been wrought : would not this discourse have been more consonant to truth and charitie , and lesse displeasing or odious to our State of England , then to suggest that they are Idolatrous hereticks , blasphemers of God and his Church , professours ( as indeed they are not because they know the true and sincere professe it ) of a false religion , subverters of souls ( but poore ones God wote ) , abominable scandalous people , &c. and that it was a scandal for good people to converse with them in things indifferent , and therfore desire that it might be declared unlawfull , & cōmanded that no Catholike might converse w th them , as in Christian libertie otherwise he might lawfully do ? thereby to introduce for their own ends , our now goodly distinctive sign of recusancie ? I appeale to any wise mans judgement . And whether the aforesaid rescript and other briefs were not gotten by meere suggestion ( the case being truly set down by me as it is ) I appeale likewise to the Pope himselfe : who , to mine owne knowledge hath been likewise lately notably abused in the like manner . Ann. 1639. one Francis Damport , alias a Sancta Clara. o being at London , and having written a booke ( called Deus , Natura , Gratia ) which being disliked by one Day a Franciscan , and through the same dislike at Rome , being there called into the Inquisition , was so much displeased both with his Holinesse and the said Day ; that he publiquely ●eered the Pope : saying ▪ that whereas before he thought him infallible ( which he never thought to my knowledge ) now he saw that he was fallible as other men were . And indeavouring revenge against the said Day , substituted a most ignorant and lewd man one George Perrott ( his ordinary Broker in seditious matters ) to goe with the s●id a Sancta Clara his instructions to Signior Gregory Pauzana then the Popes Agent in London ; accusing the said Day with much zealous hypocrisie , that he had put forth certaine pictures to the hurt of Gods Church , and infinite scandall of Protestants . After went a Sancta Clara cum tanta gravitate , seconding with an abominable deale of zeale and authoritie ( having then got himself to be Provinciall ) the complaint of the said Perrot . Hereupon the said Signior with the said a Sancta Clara's sollicitor , Luke Wadding an Irishman in Rome complaines to the Pope : and obtaines upon the former mens suggestions , a terrible Bull against the said Day being never cited to answer , admonished , or knowing any thing thereof . The Bull being come to the said a Sancta Clara his lodging in Fleetstreet and safe in his deske , he did me the honour to shew me the same . Which I read , and asking the said a Sacta Clara why he procured it , he told me , for the said Day his putting forth of the said pictures , who likewise said , that the said Day knew nothing of the same : and therefore desired me to be silent . At which , I was much astonished , and knowing very certainly the ground of the whole businesse to be false ; and therefore that both the said Day , the Popes Agent , and the Pope himselfe were most horribly abused ; I thought that if the said a Sancta Clara were permitted in this manner to abuse men ; the best men living might be censured , excommunicated , degraded ; and what not without ever being heard ? Which is no practise among Heathens . As for the setting forth of the said pictures , the matter in them contained , as being from my purpose , I omit , Yet thus much will I speake that it was a thing approved of , through the whole Catholique Church : the said pictures themselves liked , yea desired of the said Day his superiours : who to this day doe acknowledge their approbation of the same , countenanced by the said a Sancta Clara , Perrott , and all others ever after they were put forth , for the space of above ten yeers before , to mine own knowledge . A booke at the same time ( of a Sancta Clara his complaint ) printed at Doway in defence of the same , never proved by oath that any of the said pictures ever came to the hands of any one Protestant . Neither doe I thinke that any one Protestant ( unlesse it might be such , as a Sancta Clara had suborned for his own revenge to speake against the same ) ever saw any of them : and therefore there could be no indiscretion or scandall by them proved . Nay , the said pictures being made for some particular friends devotion , not so much as one Catholique to an hundred had or knew of them : but contrariwise some that had them from the said Perrott , were scandalized through weaknesse by the said a Sancta Clara his questioning of them in this manner , as though that should be set forth for their devotion , that in it selfe was false . Yet notwithstanding all this , the malicious suggestions of the said a Sancta Clara against this mans doings , did so farre prevaile , that Dayes innocency was thought worthy to be condemned by the said Bull for doing a pious and a religious act . This indeed I must say , that the said a Sancta Clara when he had him at his mercy , through the remorse and sting of his own conscience , durst not promulgate the said Bull , but kept it dead in his deske , for feare that those who otherwise honour the Popes Bulls honestly and lawfully gotten , would have called him to the Kings Bench Barre for bringing in of this . And had he not taken the benefit of the Proclamation of banishment ( notwithstanding his ambitious and seditious wit ) he would have been not only questioned for this Bull , but likewise for other matters of a farre fouler nature , which made it high time for him to run . Let any man now judge , whether the Popes Holinesse doth not suffer much by hypocriticall suggestions : whether he that so notoriously abused him in words , did not likewise doe it in deeds . For about the same time , when the said Bull came over , his said booke likewise came out of the Inquisition : at which newes the said a Sancta Clara again grudging that his said book should be so questioned , and yet passe ( although by her Majesties Servants means , if a Sancta Clara himselfe may be beleeved ) unblemished ; told divers persons seriously speaking , that there was never an able man in Rome . To which some replying , yes : The Pope , and Court of Cardinals : in faith ( quoth he ) no ; ( making a signe of contempt with his hand ) they are slight and weake fellows . Here is a fellow to get Buls ! here is one that got himselfe made the Popes Protonotary , and bound himselfe by oath , to reveale whatsoever he heard or saw done evilly against the Pope ! yet he is as ready as any to abuse him . I wonder what account he can give to the Pope of this his office : but it should seeme , that he did except himselfe in his oath , that he might evilly intreat him at his pleasure . That this is true , it will be deposed upon oath by divers witnesses , whensoever his Holinesse will be pleased to exact the same . And further the said a Sancta Clara added , that he was writing a booke ( conceiving as it should seeme , the whole Church to be weake , and to want his helpe ) wherein he would shew , what Rules generall Councels ought to observe in declaring matters of faith ; which rules ( as he said ) not observed , the Councell should not be held lawfull . Oh abominable presumption and ambition ! let any man judge , whether this man be not descending to Lucifer , who will presume to be copartner with the holy Ghost , in directing and ●eaching his Church ? If this man live , we may perchance in time have broached a quaternitie in divinis ; but I hope that God will prevent his hereticall humour . And thus leaving the said a Sancta Clara to him that will have him : my intent here is , only to shew upon what unjust grounds by suggestion a Bull may be gotten from Rome . And whether the aforesaid suggestors for Recusancy , who lived at the Popes doores , and continually at his , or their favorites sides , might not also get their rescripts , Buls and Declarations by the like fraud , for their own ends , although questionlesse with the like pretended zeale and pietie I leave to every mans conscience to judge . For as in Catholique Countreys where Buls and Breves are directed to Bishops of Diocesses there can be no thought of any sinister proceedings : so out of such countreys where particular men or Corporations busie themselves in procuring such Buls , &c. there is never want of suspition and most commonly of abusive dealing . And it stands with reason : because particular men would never sue for generall Briefs concerning a whole State , or trouble themselves more then others , if it were not for their own ends , and did not concerne themselves above the rest . And therefore the ancient Pietie and Apostolicall Clemencie of Popes in such Cases hath been , patiently to heare wherein they have been misinformed and abused ; for it is not their intention at any time to grant any thing either upon a veyled truth , or unjust ( though speciously suggested ) grounds . Hence Alexander the third , writing to an Archbishop of Canterbury , gives a Rule of large extent ; Extra de rescript . ex parte . That in these kinde of letters ( that is , such as proceed upon information , as our Case is ) this Condition ( If the request bee upon true grounds ) is ever understood , though it be not expressed . And writing to the Archbishop of Ravenna , Ibidem he saith , Siquando , If at any time we write such things to you , as exasperate your minde , you must not be troubled ; but diligently considering the qualitie of the businesse , whereof we write , either reverently fulfill our command , or pretend by your letters a reasonable cause why you cannot : for we will endure patiently , if you forbeare to performe that , which was suggested to us , by evill information : by which appeares the worthy integritie of the See Apostolique , howsoever it be by the unworthinesse of flattering hypocrites oftentimes abused . §. 3. That it is not unlawfull to goe to Church for feare of danger of subversion or Blasphemy , which is the third and last branch of the Minor to be proved . WHich I prove thus . Not danger of subversion : for to what purpose should they preach subversive doctrine ? when that supposeth a knowledge in the Minister of some people there present to be subverted . Which supposition is false , and must needs savour of a broken fancie . For the Minister intends no more , then to exhort his Auditors to a good life , and to instruct them in moralitie . For as I have said , if he should preach controversies , he must know some Catholiques to be there ; or otherwise he would but ingender doubts among Protestants , and doubts science : and by that meanes would more trouble and disturbe the mindes of the people , then profit them ; which out of prudencie , he forbeares : and so contents himselfe now and then , with an untruth , and away . And in Catholique countries I my selfe have heard Priests rebuked for preaching of controversies to a Catholique auditorie , as being a meanes rather to disturbe them , then profit them , as troubling themselves with doubts of things either above their reach and capacitie ; or whereof otherwise they are infallibly certaine : so that generally controversies are never preached , unlesse it be to bring people from their doubts , to a better and greater certaintie then they were in before ; which hath onely place among people newly converted , or staggering in their religion . Secondly . A man is said to be in danger , when that which is feared commonly & oftner hapneth then the contrary : so a man is in danger of subversion by going to a place , where few come , but are subverted : but so it hapneth not in the Protestant Church : as is apparent by Schismaticks of all sorts ; who many yeeres frequent the Protestant Church , and yet retaine their opinion of the Catholique religion without subversion , and become Catholiques at last . Adde that going to Church will rather confirme Catholiques in their religion , then subvert them from the same : for then they will have upon their owne knowledge , what now they take upon trust : for if what is done in Protestants Churches , be opposite to what is done in Catholique Churches ( as the contrarie opinion useth to say , comparing them to light and darkenesse , which are privative opposites according to Dialecticks ; although the comparison be false ) I say , opposita per se posita magis elucescunt : opposites being set together doe more clearely shew each other ; then that which is best , sends the best species to the power from the object , and consequently to be embraced . Now if a man hath the best already , it will then more clearely appeare ; and he is not so mad , as to leave the best , and take the wor●● ; but will be more sure and certain , that he hath the best : as seeing the opposite , and confirme himselfe the●ein . This appeares true to every meane capacitie : What danger then can there be in going to Church ? shall we be afraid to let a Greyhound goe into the p field , for feare he should be taken by an Hare ? Thirdly , those that goe to Church , either they were borne Catholiques , or converted Protestants ; if the latter : then that which moved them to become Catholiques , cannot move them to be Protestants againe . If the first , it were a wonderfull thing , that hearing a little moralitie , should make them fall from the doctrine they were brought up in all their life : or hearing a small piece of controversie mentioned ( if it should so happen ) by a Minister , they should be presently carried away from the doctrine they have so long knowne , and never once tell it to the priests , they daily converse with : especially when they goe not out of any dislike of their religion , but with a cleare conscience for some other ends . I conceive it would rather confirme them , in hearing that spoken , which in their owne conscience they know to be untrue , that it will be so farre from troubling or striking their consciences , that they will come home rejoycing at the truth , which they heard that day impugned : as that they heard the Minister speake of such , or such a point : as that Catholiques adored q p●ctures , or the like ; which they knew in their owne con●sciences to be false , and thereby stirre up an earnestnesse in them in religion , as zealing their owne being opposed by falshood : and this may ingender such passion or distraction in the hearer , that it may be thought zeale of religion or heate of devotion . Which heate , if after this fight of contrarieties or opposition , should not be allayed ( the parties being as it were swallowed up , with zeale of the house of our Lord ) and the dislike of the Sermon as fraught with untruths , seeme too troublesome : they may depart the Church , for there be many cases of necessitie , to make a man go out of the Church , and as many likewise to make him come short of the same : as to Service ( if it stand : if not , there is the lesse to be done , and it shall never trouble me ) Sermon , or both : for as there are many waies to the wood , so there are many waies to the Protestant Church . And I have alwaies observed , that most commonly Catholiques converted from Protestancie , have been more firme and solid in religion , as knowing both , then those that never knew but one . And if Schismaticks ( of whom I have before spoken ) from the wisest to the meanest of capacity , that notwithstanding they goe to Church , and are voyd of grace , are never so much as shaken from their intention of being Catholiques , or their opinion of Catholique religion ; why should those that abound so much with Gods grace and professed Catholiques , be said to be in danger , or feared to swerve from a religion they so well know ? As for blasphemie there is likewise none . If you reply ( as the contrary opinion useth to doe out of Saint Thomas 2a. 2ae . q. 13. art . 1. and 2. ) that Protestants out of a set intent and purpose ascribe their heresies to Gods revelation , and denie his revelations to Orthodox articles of faith , in which consists blasphemy , and without this blasphemy they cannot preach : and therefore no Catholique can goe to Church . I answer the antecedent to be false ; and this blasphemie to be much like the Rhemists Idolatry , as preferring and embracing their owne opinions before God : and so honouring a creature and rejecting their Creator : but in truth and charitie , we ought not to make them worse then they are : for blasphemie and Idolatrie being sinnes , there must be some formall intention in the sinner to deny God his due in what he doth . And so likewise there must be an intention of committing Idolatry ; that is , of preferring and embracing that which is a morally knowne creature before the Creator ; and so to give the creature what is due to the Creator : or otherwise there can be neither blasphemie nor Idolatry . As no man will say , that I eating flesh on a fasting day unknowne or forgotten , commit Idolatry in preferring my belly before the law of Gods Church , and consequently God , because I had no intention thereto : so no man can say that in the Protestant Church there is formall Idolatry or blasphemy , because they mistake . For Diana saith , 5a. parte tract . de par . mamae . resol . pag. 138. that blasphemy is a sinne , in that contumelious words are spoken against God with a minde or intention to dishonour God , either directly , or indirectly , virtually , or interpretative . Now in the Protestant Churches what contumelious words are spoken against God with a minde , & c ? If you say as before , that they ascribe their heresies to Gods revelation , and deny his revelation to Orthodoxe Articles . I answer , th●t their minds and intentions are not so much as interpretativè to dishonour God thereby ; or indeed so to ascribe their heresies . For if they knew their opinions to be heresies , and the tenents they reject to be Orthodoxe Articles , as we do by the light of faith ; it would evidently follow , that they spake sometimes contumeliously against God , which they doe not know , but simply interpret Scripture according to their owne fancies , and therein they erre and mistake . And because they doe not endeavour the meanes to search and know the truth , by the definitions of Councels , and Doctrine of Catholique Fathers , they sinne : yet doe not commit Idolatrie : for it is not their intention , to make an Idol of their opinion , unlesse you take Idolatry so largely , as every sinner may be said to be an Idolater : because in every sinne there is an aversion from God , and a conversion to the creature : and consequently in this sense , all sinners are Idolaters . And if it be unlawfull to converse with these Idolaters , or the like blasphemers ; that is , such as sinne by word or deed ; we must converse onely in spatio imaginario , or as Saint Paul saith , 1 Cor. 5. vers . 10. We must goe out of this world . There were divers very learned and holy Fathers , as Saint Cyprian in the question of Baptisme administred by hereticks , St. Anselme and others , who did mistake and erre , before they knew the sense and definition of the Church : whom therefore to call blasphemers or Idolaters were blasphemie indeed . So likewise there are divers points this day controverted among Catholique Divines , as the immaculate conception of our blessed Lady and the like ; the Authours of which to count blasphemers , before they knew the sense of the Church , were more then peevish . Neither are they to be so accounted , after the sense of the Church is knowne , for the time they held their opinions before . So it is with Protestants , for although the Orthodoxe Articles are knowne to us by the Church ; yet to them they are unknowne ; and to most of them so unknowne , as if they had not been revealed at all ; because they know none other Church but their owne . And therefore what they beleeve , they have by errour and mistake , and not as blasphemy . Whence in my opinion it were more proper and Apostolicall for such men , as call them blasphemers and Idolaters , to use some prudent and faire way , to propose to the aforesaid Protestants , the true Church , and the authoritie of the same , without all suspition of partialitie , and then they should see , whether having this meane of beliefe in a balanced judgement , they would attribute their heresies to Gods revelation , and deny his revelation to Orthodoxe Articles , or no. To the authoritie of St. Thomas . I answer , that he meaneth such as attribute heresies quatenus tales to Gods revelation : and deny his revelation to Orthodox Articles quâ tales : as Arch-hereticks did in this reduplicative sense to be blasphemers . But not such as take Scripture for the revealed word of God , and misunderstand the same in a specificative sense , through their own ignorance or infirmitie , to be blasphemers ; Neither did St. Thomas or any other temperate and solid Divine ever inte●d to say . It may be here first objected , that Catholiques in the beginning of Queene Elizabeths Raigne went to Church , and so did likewise the Catholiques in Scotland : and they were all , in a short time subverted . Ergo : there is danger of subversion in going to Church . I deny the later part of the antecedent : and say , that while the plot of Recusancie was working , there was a command got , upon the former suggestions , that no Catholiques should goe to the Protestant Church . So by barring them of their Christian libertie by degrees to bring in Recusancie , as a pretended signe , betweene a good Christian and a bad . Which some few Catholiques then beleeving themselves bound to obey ( as indeed they were not , but might as well withall reverence and obedience have beseeched the Pope to have recalled his command ) refused the Church . Others ( and those the most part of the kingdome , as appeares by the afore Author of the Answer to the Libell of Justice , cap. 8. pag. 172. & 182. ) fearing the penalties of the said Statutes , did not refuse : but continued to goe to Church : who being neglected by Priests ( being but a few then in England , and those of most power , being for the said recusancy ) as having no spirituall comfort , or instructions in what sense , they might truely and lawfully doe what they did , to avoyd the said penalties of the Law , and likewise thinking that those Priests thought them to doe ill ▪ in what themselves found no hurt , they dyed as they lived . But whether in Protestant tenents or Catholique : or whether they would not have dyed Catholiques if they had had helpe , especially such as lived before in Queene Maries time , I present to any wise and pious mans judgement truly considering the state of those times . And afterwards their children being still neglected upon this point of Recusancy , and living in ignorance , ingendred the Protestant Re●igion now on foot . So that the cause of their falling was not their subversion , as may be proved by witnesses yet alive ; but over indiscreet zeale in Priests the chiefest heads of whom ( ayming as is evident at a temporall end ) neglecting and rejecting such as would not obey their unreasonable command : and in the same manner it hapneth with Catholiques that now goe to Church in these dangerous times . Who going to Church only to save themselves from ruine , and being rejected as judged to be fallen from the true faith by ignorant Priests , and therefore not looked after , with any Christian instructions or admonitions faine themselves Protestants , rather then they will bee thought to live against their conscience . Whence I may truely say ( and prove by the Authour last before cited , who confesseth that in the thirteenth yeere of Queen Elizabeths reigne the third part of this Kingdome at least was Catholique ) that since the fall of Religion in England , by this onely Cheate of recusancie , tenne soules have beene lost , for one gained , which is both lamentable and damnable to those that were the first Authors of the same . As for the Scots : their fall was neither subversion or Recusancie which was never generally admitted ( because not covertly procured ) by the Clergie of that Kingdome : but want of Priests to administer the Sacraments , and give them other spirituall comfort ; who seeing the soyle not so fertile as ours , and the lawes more severe ; those few that were , rather chose to converse on the Northern borders of England , then in their owne Countrey . And Catholiques there , seeing themselves destitute of all spirituall comfort , went to Church to save their inferiour portion from ruine ; who if they had had but plenty , or sufficiencie of priests to have instructed them , I doubt not , but they would have still remained Catholiques . And it had been farre more easie , so to have conserved them , then fallen now to convert them . And thus came the bane of s Catholique religion into both Kingdomes ; which are like so to continue remedilesse , unlesse they be assisted by Gods infinite and miraculous power . It may be objected secondly ; that divers Popes , as Paul the fourth , Pius the fifth , both the last Gregories , Sixtus , Clement , and Paul the fifth , granted to priests their faculties with an intention , that they should administer the Sacraments to onely such , as abstained from Protestant Churches . I answer that it is so said by R. P. but whether it be so in truth or no , I know not : peradventure such faculties might be granted to such as received them from the aforesaid suggestors hands , and to none others . Neither did I ever see any faculties as yet so limited , nor I hope ever shall . For although the aforesaid Popes might be inclined to the said suggestors tribe , & so admit of their suggestions , thinking them to proceed from zeale , and not from hypocrisie : who likewise thought their pretenses holy : and what a Christian like thing it was , to suffer persecution for Gods sake ; and what a number of Martyrs were made in England , & sanguinem martyrum esse semen Ecclesiae : that the blood of the Martyrs was the seed of the Church . Further , what an abominable people Protestants were : Idolaters , blasphemous heretiques , subversive of soules , and many other the like exaggerating speeches ; upon which any Pope living ( unlesse he had foreknowne their drift ) would have done the like . Whereas certainly had they but made known , the true State of England in those dayes , and sought the good of souls ( and not themselves ) in truth they ought to have done ; the said Popes would never have done , as they did to us , more then to the Scots , Hollanders , Germans and other nations : by subjecting us and all posteritie by this device of Recusancie to all misery and slavery . Neither hath his Holinesse that now is , ever declared any such thing , for I perceive that he ( better knowing by experience the said suggestors tribe , and their plots , with their moth-like dealings in most Kingdomes ) will be advised hence forward , how he granteth any more Rescripts , or limiteth any faculties upon their importune suggestions . As for our Martyrs of England . I hope them truely Martyrs , because they died not so much for recusancie , t as for Religion and a good conscience ( although that might be a meanes to bring them to their death , sooner then otherwise ) . Yet I dare not call all of them Saints , untill the holy Church doth bid me , as having approved of their miracles : but most of them I think truely to be blessed men , and of great charitie . For as our Saviour saith , Ioh. 15. v. 13. Majorem charitatem nemo habet , quam ut animam suam ponat quis pro amico suo . No man hath greater love , then who layeth downe his life for his friend . Yet I hope likewise others some , who yet live , to be as blessed , and their charitie or love as great ; although not so apparent for the present , because as yet not exercised in fight , but when God shall be pleased to call them to suffer for their Religion , they may make it as manifest . For although a man of a thinne skin , and a veine transparent with lesse art strooke , doth presently bleed in abundance : yet no man may hence inferre , that a man of a thicker skinne , and a more obscure veine not lightly strook , hath no blood in his body to shed ; so it is in the present , betweene him that suffers for Religion being discovered by Recusancie , and him that suffers not , being undetected by rejecting the same . And in this they differ ; that as the one suffers for a good conscience sake ; so the other suffers not , with a good conscience . As for the said exaggerating speeches , they doe so much strengthen and confirme me , knowing them to be false , that I am morally certaine : that the said u twelve Fathers in the Councel of Trent , selected by the said suggestors for recusancie were abused ; aswell as the aforesaid Popes . And therefore as they are said to have granted to some limited faculties , meerely upon the said false suggestions ( which how farre they did binde , the suggestors at their pleasure , to great persons according to their custome , could very well tell ) they might as well have granted the same , without any such limitation , if it had pleased them : and I am perswaded more to the glo●y of God and increase of his Church as daily experience teacheth . For it is improbable with me , and against the nature of an Apostolicall mission , that men should be sent out of Colledges into Protestant countries to private mens houses , to play bo-peepe : as fearing to be seene conversing with Protestants , and Protestants not caring to come to them , for any matter of religion . I wonder by this kinde of conversation , what kinde of conversion could ensue ? whereas Saint Paul said to them that were about him , Act. 20. vers . 20. You know how I have withdrawne nothing that was profitable , but that I preached it to you , and taught you openly , and from house to house . Neither doe I beleeve that any man can prove any notable increase of Catholike religion in England , either in great families or in small , from the time of this recusancie brought in , unto this present : onely this I see , a great impoverishment of the Catholiques here , and halfe a dozen faire high Colledges built beyond the seas , besides what common purse I know not : and this I conceive to be all the effect of recusancie ; for persecution ( as I have said ) begets prayers to God , and almesdeeds to his supposed servants , which produce great Colledges for refuge to themselves . But some may here againe reply ; that if recusancie had beene rejected , and conformitie admitted , yet Protestants would have had some other invention to punish Catholiques for their religion . I answer it might be so , if some evill spirits had told them the proceedings of Catholiques before hand ( as I never yet knew in my life Catholiques private to themselves ) otherwise why should they have invented more to punish Catholiques , then they have hitherto done to punish Schismaticks or Separatists ? The said Suggestors had best invent for them some way more then they have already , to continue a persecution , which were but conformable as it seemes , to the said Authour of the Answer , &c. cap. 9. pag. 216. as is before said : who delighteth more to have a persecution ( although not to fall upon himselfe or his tribe ) then a toleration in religion . Yet in the meane time , we had done the uttermost of humane prudence , and then wee might have left the rest more safely to God ; who ordinarily , what second causes cannot doe in working to his will , himselfe mercifully supplyeth ▪ and then at leastwise , it would have beene more apparent to the whole world , that we had suffered meerly for religion , and not for a toy , to wit : w Recusancie . Adde that whatsoever had beene invented either by oath or abjuration , or what else , it must have been done in justice , and I hope by a x competent Judge ▪ or otherwise I should have taught out of the common opinion of Catholique Divines , as well Schoolemen as Casuists , that putting off their hats , they might have passed by , in Justice : for as Titelman saith , contra vulpem y vulpizare licet . It is lawfull for a man to play the fox against a fox . It may be objected thirdly , that it was Decreed in the 63 Canon of the Apostles . That if any Clarke , or Lay-man did enter into the Synagogue of Jews or Hereticks to pray , he should be deposed , and excommunicated . I answer , that it might be a necessary Decree : because then there were but young Christians , and they newly instructed , in very high mysteries , as the mystery of the Incarnation , which was so hard to them , as that God should be borne man , poore , live poorely , and at last be put to so shamefull a death , by the hands of men , his own creatures , that the forcible Arguments of the Jews might have z easily perverted them . Againe , the Jews were formall blasphemers of God ; our Saviour telling them himself ; that he had done those signes among them , that no other man could doe . Whereby he gave them to know , that he was God : all which the Jews rejected as naught , and said , that he did them in Beelzebub Prince of the Devils . And when he told them , Ioh. 10. vers . 36. that he was the Sonne of God , they answered that he blasphemed , to whom he replyed , vers . 37. If I doe not the works of my Father beleeve me not . And therefore it was requisite , that those Christians should abstaine from their synagogue , least they should have fallen to have been as they were . The company of hereticks , the Apostles might likewise forbid : because they were such as fell from and amongst themselves , and very likely particularly denounced excommunicate ; so that danger of subversion was there imminent : because their intention was formally to subv●rt , and infected with one or two points of heresie were not so easily to be discerned , as those that professe themselves so wholly different from the Catholique Church , that if they did but know a Papist to be in their Churches , they would goe neere to pull them downe to the ground ; and so borne and bred , as they know no other religion , but their own , and there doe so rest : teaching their own but to live morally which is both common to Catholique and Protestant . Which motive or reason hath no place in our case , where ( I contend ) there is no danger at all . Hence it may be generally observed that what Scriptures , Councels , Fathers , or Canons soever , forbid Communication with hereticks : they are to be understood of notorious hereticks in point of their heresie , or particularly denounced excommunicated for heresie and fallen in Catholique countreyes or from amongst Catholiques . And not of such as are not formall and subversive hereticks , but borne incredulous in a countrey to be converted , and not knowing the Catholique Church . After all this , some may yet say , that it hath been a long custome with them to abstain from the Protestant Church above these threescore yeers : and they have suffered and lost much by refusing the same ; and can I have so little judgement , as to thinke upon mine own bare word or opinion to make them leave this their custome ? I answer ( how small soever my judgement be ) that it is not only my opinion , but the common opinion of Divines in the Catholique Church : and I never spake with any Priest in England about this point in my life , that was able to give me satisfaction to the contrary . Some indeed have answered me , that it were lawfull , if it were not for scandall . Others , if it were not a distinctive signe : and when I have urged , that scandall may be avoyded ( as I have before said ) and for a distinctive signe , I knew none , for who should institute that signe ? then they have answered , that a long custome had brought it in : I have blessed my self to thinke , that men should so unjustly deale with poore Catholiques , as to bring upon them a yoake or fetters ; which they can keepe upon them by no other law , then that they themselves cunningly got them on , or chained them about threescore yeeres since , and now to kicke of these chaines , or their devises would prove ( forsooth ) scandall : because they would seeme refractary and disobedient to their suggestive humours : but to give me a reason why going to Church was unlawfull before the refusall thereof became this supposed distinctive signe , or before the same could be cause of scandall I could never yet heare any man give : but only the aforesaid R. P. hath given in writing the aforesaid suggested untruths ( with a great deale of passion that this my opinion was thought rationall ●or almost fortie yeers agoe and since recusancy was brought in , ( as appears by his said booke ) of many most prudent men in this kingdome , ) which is to me no reason at all . For let us propose to any Divine in Christendome these three following questions : relating the true state of the Protestant Church in exterior actions ( for we meddle not ( as I have said ) with their opinions in matters of faith ) and withall adding that we are constrained to them under a paine of death , and losse of all temporall fortunes . 1. Whether it be lawfull for a Catholique to heare the Prayers , Epistles , Gospels and Psalmes of the Catholique Church among Protestants in their Church ? 2. Whether it be lawfull to heare a Protestant preach in the same place , some moralitie , although it should by chance happen that some ignorant Minister should speake of some point of mistaken doctrine : as that Catholiques trust in their b own merits or the like falshood ? 3. Whether it be lawfull for a Catholique to receive bare bread and wine in remembrance that Christ dyed for him , as a pious ceremony ? and whether not better , so taken , then without such remembrance ? I dare say that there is no impartiall Divine , but will answer . Yes . And for these opinions I make no question , but if I had been as well backed in Rome , as the said R. P. was , I would have got as great approbation to the same ; as he had to the same questions after his subdol●us manner proposed as followeth . 1. Whether it be lawfull to frequent the Churches of hereticks , where there is both imminent danger of subversion and scandall ? 2. Whether it be lawfull to heare the blasphemous and id●latrous Sermons of hereticks , in which both God and his Church is notoriously and highly abused ? 3. Whether it be lawfull to receive Calvines c Communion of bread and wine , which they hold a Sacrament , and is a signe of hereticall perfidiousnesse , whereby a man betrayeth and denyeth his faith ? To which every Catho●ique whatsoever would and must answer . No , but this in truth is not our case . For the beliefe of Catholiques is not questioned , nor subversion , or blasphemie , or denyall of faith , either apprehended or feared . Neither can they scarce possibly happen in the Protestant Church , as I have before said , but the question only is , what Catholiques may exteriorly doe , for the safeguard of life with a good intention , and how , and in what manner , they may best converse , and preserve themselves from ruine with most securitie . Therefore I pray forgive the said R. P. who proposed the said questions in Rome out of his aboundant d zeale ( of money , and youth to propagate his family ) not once considering that it is an impossible thing for them to be hereticks , who never were Catholiques . As for their custome of Recusancie . I say , first that it is no custome , for a custome is a continuance of a thing time out of minde without any interruption . Now recusancy hath been interrupted oftentimes , first by Doctor Wright who wrote against the same , Ann. 1607. and since him Master Broughton , and now my selfe . Neither hath it been time out of minde , for there are some yet alive borne in Queene Maries dayes , who have knowne when our recusancie was not in England , and thereupon in these troublesome times doe now goe to Church . I say , secondly , that an inconvenient custome with imprudencie , is better broken , then kept : and the prescrip●ion of threescore yeeres not good . Yet if they will needs claime a right in and to their actions by the same . I doe hereby promise , not to take it from them , by any suit in law . For I doe write , more to avoyd the scandall of the weake : then that I do thinke thereby to satisfie the weake , or rob them of their said custome . As for their sufferings and losses I am sorry for them , and doe assure my selfe , that they will receive a great reward for the same : because they suffered not so much , for the love of recusancie , as for the love of God : for whosoever doth the meanest worke ( no indiscretion therein being apprehended by the doer ) either for Gods sake or for vertue sake , although of some ( considering the act it selfe , and not knowing the doers intention ) it may be judged indiscreet : yet the worke may have a reward from God , and yet another that doth not the same , no punishment . Thus the three branches of the said Minor proposition being proved : the Conclusion standeth good for the lawfulnesse of going to the Protestant Church . Me thinks here I heare some storme , that if this my opinion should be admitted as lawfull : it would follow , that they must likewise take all the oathes that are made against Catholiques , which will tend to perjurie . To which I answer , that I would have them to do things consequenter , and any thing for safeguard of life , wherein their is no sinne . And to chuse : both the Oathes of Allegiance and Supremacie ; which , if with patience they will but heare , when I have said what they are , I will presently prove , that they may be most lawfully taken . The Oath of Allegiance divided into eight branches . 1. I A. B. Doe truely and sincerely acknowledge , professe , testifie and declare in my conscience before God and the world , that our Soveraigne Lord King Charles is lawfull and rightfull King of this Realme , and all other his Majesties Dominions and Countryes . 2. And that the Pope neither of himselfe , nor by any authoritie of the Church , or See of Rome , or by any other means with any other , hath any power , or authoritie to depose the King , or to dispose any of his Majesties Kingdomes , or Dominions , or to authorize any forreign Prince to invade or annoy Him or His Countreys , or to discharge any of his Subjects of their Allegiance , or obedience to his Majestie , or to give licence , or leave to any of them to beare armes , raise tumults , or to offer any violence , or hurt to his Majesties Royall Person , State , or Government , or to any of His Majesties Subjects within His Majesties Dominions . 3. And I doe sweare from my heart , that notwithstanding any Declaration , or Sentence of Excommunication , or Deprivation , made or granted by the Pope or his successors , or by any authority derived , or to be derived from him or his See against the said King , his heires or successors , or any absolution of the said subjects from their obedience . I will beare faith and true Allegeance to his Majestie , his heires and successors , and him and them will defend to the uttermost of my power , against all conspiracies and attempts whatsoever which shall be made against his or their persons , their Crown and Dignitie , by reason or colour of any such sentence or declaration , or otherwise : and will doe my best indeavour to disclose , and make knowne unto His Majestie , his heires and successors , all treasons , and trayterous conspiracies which I shall know , or heare of , to be against him or any of them . 4. And I doe further sweare , that I doe from my heart abhorre , detest and abjure as impious and hereticall , this damnable doctrine and position , that Princes which be excommunicated or deprived by the Pope , may be deposed or murthered by their Subjects or any other whatsoever . 5. And I doe beleeve , and in my conscience am resolved , that neither the Pope , or any Person whatsoever , hath power to absolve me of this Oath , or any part thereof . 6. Which I acknowledge by good and full authoritie to be lawfully ministred unto me , and doe renounce all Pardons and Dispensations to the contrary . 7. And all these things I doe plainly and sincerely acknowledge and sweare , according to the expresse words by me spoken , & according to the plaine and common sense and understanding of the same words without any equivocation , or mentall evasion or secret reservation whatsoever . 8. And I doe make this recognition and acknowledgement heartily , willingly and truly , upon the true faith of a Christian. So helpe me God. This Oath according to every part and parcell of the same may be lawfully taken by any Catholike ; as have averred both M. Widdrington , Sir William Howard , and others ; who have so substantially wrote of the same with explanations of each branch ; that I thinke no wise man dares hazard his credit in going about to refute the same . Yet the weaknesse of some Catholiques hath beene so great , that they have not onely taken scandall , ( being of the Pharisees not much to be regarded ) but gone about to defame such as stood for this Oath to their great prejudice ; notwithstanding the said Mr. Widdrington in his Newyeeres-gift , hath sufficiently proved , that besides the authoritie of many famous Divines , it was the opinion of the chiefest secular Priests in England ; but these uncharitable proceedings were hatched by a sort of arrogant and covetous people , who laboured to make every thing scandalous among Catholiques that was not done by their approbation ; and to this purpose , the first principles were to leade people into scruples , and being there , to put a ring upon them , abusively tearmed , the yoake of our blessed Lady ; by which they might more easily leade them to their opinions and censures , as men doe Bears to their purposes . Oh wise Venetians ! how sacred are your lawes ? would a man thinke that such blindnesse , or rather envious peevishnesse could be in Catholiques , as , what they understand not , to censure at their pleasure without any respect of persons ? and presently judge them as fallen men whom they dislike ? although indeed firmer then themselves , and very well able to teach most of their guides . But to the purpose , the truth is , that the aforesaid Authours have so fully proved the lawfulnesse of taking the said Oath , that no man needs speake more in proofe thereof , as not being able to speak better to the purpose . And therefore I referre every man to the said Writers to informe themselves lest they demeritoriously suffer for refusing the ●ame . This onely give me leave to insert , as a caution to some , that considering it is contrarie to the Popes ( forced ) opinion as appeareth by his Declarative Breve ; he that shall sweare or abjure the doctrine and position ( That Princes which be , &c. ) in the fourth branch , as impious , hereticall , and damnable ( I conceive ) indirectly abjureth the Popes opinion , as impious , hereticall , and damnable : and what a fault that may be made in Rome ( especially by some suggestors , who although to mine owne knowledge doe teach , this Oath lawfull in private , to men of qualitie : yet in publique , and to his Holynesse out of a seeming zeale they will lament the fact ) I leave to the judgement of wise men . When as they shall sweare his doctrine erroneous in such bitter terms , whom they acknowledge to be the supreame Pastour of their souls : questionlesse in such , it will be interpreted at the least arrogacie and presumption . And I for mine owne part should thinke it very hard to be forced to take the Oath of Supremacie in Rome under any termes directly or indirectly misbeseeming my dutie to my naturall Prince : howsoever he might erre in mistake . And therefore I doe humbly present the consideration of our case in this Oath of Allegiance to his Majesties most gracious Clemencie . This caution or consideration I present to such , as having taken the said Oath , intend afterwards to converse at Rome . But if death or ruine urge , then ( spectata conscientia ) I say as before , follow the opinion of Sir William Howard , and Master Widdrington as secure . For in such extremitie it is to be hoped , that his Holinesse will be rather a pious and pittifull father , then too severe a Judge . If any be urged to this Oath out of any temporall preferment : let him follow the example of that huge Divine a Sancta Clara ( an acquaintance of mine ) and take it in private before a Master of the Chancery , and get a Certificate thereof from him , and it will be sufficient . Here is to be noted the intolerable abuse which some suggestors did put upon the Popes Holinesse , concerning this Oath of Allegiance ; who procured him to send forth a declarative Briefe , forbidding English Catholiques to take the same ; as conteining many things plainly repugnant to faith and salvation : and by this meanes compelled him against his will , to make the Doctrine adverse to the Oath , his owne opinion . When as the procurers themselves , and their abettors did ( as I have said ) counsell in private , some men of qualitie ( who were friends to them ) to take the same as lawfull , as may be easily proved . And which is more strange , that they should procure it to be declared so repugnant : when as the doctrine to be abjured in the said oath wrote by Santarellus was declared by all the Sorbon Doctors and sixteene of the chiefest Jesuits in France to be wicked : so that what is held lawfull by most Divines in the Church ( it being the most common opinion , except some few that would seeme to flatter the Pope ) should be held wicked only for us to take : but I conceive , as I have said before , that the intent and end of the procuration of such Briefs is , that nothing should be thought good or lawfull in England to be done , without the speciall approbation of the suggestors tribe : so that if any man should doe what they have not approved , by vertue of the Popes Briefe , he shall be presently blasted for an heretick : and if he doe what they approve , he shall be saved harmelesse by them both at home and abroad , let him be never so bad . Sed meliora Spero . Let any judicious man consider all the Buls , Breves and Censures that have beene procured touching the affaires of English Catholiques from the first Bull of excommunication against Queen Elizabeth by Pius Quintus to the last before spoken of in Anno 1639. against one who knowes nothing of the same , and he shall finde , by farre , more hurt done to Catholiques , then ever good . It were a blessed turne if some order might be taken by our most gracious Queene for the prevention of such mischiefes : which serve for nothing more , then to make Schismes and Rents in the Church of God , and the Pope , and his authoritie to be lesse regarded . It were more fitting in my poore judgement , that Catholiques were succoured in tribulation , then by barring them of their Christian liberty , in what they may lawfully doe , to adde affliction to affliction . I must say no more ; for I perceive that some beginne to swell , but the matter is not great : for I will write nothing by Gods grace contrary to the Catholique Church . Yet I feare they will breake before I have done with : The Oath of Supremacy , which is as followeth , divided into foure branches . 1. I A. B. Doe utterly testifie and declare in my conscience , that the Kings highnesse is the only Supreme Governor of this Realme , and of all other his Highnesse dominions and countries , as well in all Spirituall or Ecclesiasticall things or causes , as Temporall . 2. And that no forreigne Prince , Person , Prelate , State or Potentate , hath or ought to have any Jurisdiction , power , superioritie , preheminence or authoritie Ecclesiasticall or Spirituall , within this Realme . 3. And therefore I doe utterly renounce and forsake all forren Jurisdictions , powers , superiorities , and authorities . 4. And doe promise that from henceforth I shall bear faith and true Allegiance to the Kings Highnesse , his heires and lawfull successors ; and to my power shall assist , and defend all Jurisdictions , priviledges , preheminences and authorities , granted or belonging to the Kings Highnesse , his heires and successours , or united and annexed to the Imperiall Crowne of this Realme . So helpe me God , and by the contents of this Booke . Where is to be f noted first , that in the first yeere and Parliament of Queene Elizabeths reigne ; when they abolished the Popes authoritie , and would have yeelded the g same authoritie with the Title of Supreme head to the Queen , as it was given before , to her father and brother : divers especially moved by Minister h Calvines writing ( who h●d condemned in the same Princes , that calling ) liked not the terme ; and therefore procured that some other equivalent terme , but lesse offensive ( although in truth , it is all one with the other ) might be used . Vpon which formalitie , it was enacted , that she was the Chiefe Governour aswell in causes Ecclesiasticall or Spirituall ; as Civil & Temporal ▪ because otherwise there could have beene no colour , to make new lawes for the change of Religion . So the abovesaid Author to the Answer , &c. cap. 1. pag. 7. and 8. And this was the onely and sole intention , of making the aforesaid Oath : which was div●rs from the i ●ntention of King Henrie the eighth , and consequently the Oath not the same . For his intention in assuming to himselfe the Supremacie was not ( as I shall say beneath in the third note ) to alter any principle of Religion ( the Supremacie onely excepted ) or so much as any ceremonie of the Catholique Church : but to give himselfe a more k licentious libertie in point of marriage and divorce , and to make the same libertie justifiable to his subjects ; and because he could not have the same granted to him by the Pope , was angry and displeased with him , and tooke it of his owne accord : and for his sake , disturbed the Church and Clergy of England , and took away their lands , and gave them to his Nobilitie . It is to be noted secondly , that we are to sweare , that the King is chiefe Governour as well in all spirituall things , &c. Where by ( All ) is to be understood ; in all things ordered or to be ordered by him , unlesse some exception bee made in reason touching the establishment or regiment of the Protestant Church of England : that the spirituall things were meant touching the Church , appears by the very words themselves : Spirituall or Ecclesiasticall : and that they were meant touching a Church to be established , distinct from the then Catholique Church in England : appeares by the intention of the oath which was ( as I have said ) to inable the Queene to change and alter Religion ; and to forme an l other Church diverse , from that which then was ; which is the Protestant Church : and that there are some spirituall things justly excepted m from the King ; appeares by the Declaration of Queene Elizabeth , in her next visitation of the Clergie , after the said Oath was made ; wherein she her selfe made an exception , and declared in print ( the same being published by her commandement ) that in truth She had not power ( we will not examine then , from whence her Ministers power came she having none her selfe ) by the words of the Oath and Act , to minister the Sacraments . Neither had she any such intent , and that no such thing was implyed in her Title , or claime of Spirituall regiment ; nor no other thing , nor more then was before granted to her father , by the terme of Supreame Head : requiring all her loving subjects to receive the Oath at least in that sence ( which was , she meant , that she might dispose of Church matters , as her Father had : and have power to forme o what Church she pleased ) and so that should suffice her Highnesse . It is to be noted thirdly that the aforesaid oath when it was made , was unlawfull to be taken by any Catholique ; as the oath before made in the dayes of King Henry the 8th . Although when it was made , it was not altogether so unlawfull , as that of King Henry : because in his dayes there was no p other Church extant , or like to be extant in England , but the Catholique Church : of which q contrary to the Law of God , and his own conscience , he made himself head ( as appears by a booke set forth by the said King himself , in the later end of his raigne , and many yeers after he had framed his Oath of Supremacie ; intituled : A necessary Doctrine and Erudition for any Christian man , set forth by the Kings Majestie of England , &c. In which he sets forth the Christian faith , then to be professed in England . Which was as absolutely Catholique , and the self-same in every point , as now it is in Rome . And if any man should have sworne him the supreame head , as he intended of that Church : he would have sworne false : as making the Church a Monster in having two heads : or depriving the Pope of his authoritie granted him by God : which had been to have denyed an Article of faith : but when the said Oath was repealed in Queene Maries dayes . And another Oath r of Supremacie made in the aforesaid first yeere of Queene Elizabeth . It was as I have said to inable her ( not so much to be head of the Church then extant , and to be utterly abolished , as ) to be Governour of a new Church distinct from the Catholique Church then out of hand to be propagated and established : of which to sweare Her Head , before it was : or to sweare Her Head of the Church then extant , which she conceived superstitious : of which indeed she was not head , was in a true and proper sence unlawfull . And so continued unlawfull untill after the abrogation of Masse , and perfect establishment of the new Protestant Church within this Realme , and other His Majesties Dominions . Which being established as now it is : the said Oath of Supremacie ceased from being unlawfull : because then there was an apparant face of a Church ( distinct from the members of the Catholique Church , which then began scarce to appeare , in respect of the greater multitude ) of which only s she was supreame governour and chief head , and no other person whatsoever had or ought to have any jurisdiction or preheminence in the same , and all that were or are not of the same faith and Church were and are in a true and proper sense forreiners to the same . It is to be noted fourthly : that a man may be said to be a Forreiner t in a twofold sence . First , in respect of a temporall Dominion . Secondly , in respect of faith , whence ariseth a spirituall jurisdiction . In the first sence , all that are not Natives of His Majesties Dominions ( although some Lawyers say ) all that doe no homage to His Majestie ) are forreiners . In the second sence , all that are of the Protestant faith with the King , are Domesticks of the same faith , and within His Dominions only subject to His spirituall jurisdiction by the Laws of the Realme . And all that are not of the Protestant faith , are forreiners to the same , conformable to St. Paul , who accounted all those of whatsoever Nation , or under whatsoever temporall Dominion or Iurisdiction in the world ) who were of the same faith with himselfe which he taught , were Domesticks of that faith . And those of whatsoever Nation or temporall Dominion , that were not of the same faith , he accounted forreiners . Whence he saith , Gal. 6.10 . Let us doe good to all : but especially to the domesticks ( or those of the house ) of faith . And 1 Thess. 4. vers . 12. Rogamus ut honeste ambuletis ad eos qui foris sunt , & nullius aliquid desideretis . We desire you brethren , that you walke honestly towards them that are without , ( that is , forreiners to our faith ) and need nothing of any mans . It is to be noted fifthly and chiefly , what conditions are required in every lawful oath : which according to the Prophet Ieremy , are three . viz ▪ Truth , Iudgement , and Iustice : for he saith in his fourth Chapter . Thou shalt sweare our Lord liveth , in truth and in judgement and in justice : upon which place the holy Doctor , S. Hierome noteth , that the foresaid conditions are requisite to every oath : of whom all Divines have le●rned the same ; requiring in every lawfull oath , every of the said three conditions . The reason hereof is : because an oath being an invocation of God , as witnesse that what we speake is true ; it is requisite that we should use judgement or discretion , to see that we doe nothing rashly , or without due reverence , devotion and faith , towards so great a Majestie , but we must especially regard , that we make not him , who is the chiefe and Soveraigne veritie and inflexible justice , either ignorant o● what we say : or Patron of a lye , as witnesse of that , which either is false in assertion , or unjust in promise . Hence an oath wanting Iudgement or discretion and wisdome : is a rash and foolish oath , that which wanteth Iustice : is called an unjust oath . And finally , where there is not truth : it is adjudged a false or lying oath , and is more properly then all the rest , called Perjurie . These notes premised , I shall now prove , the said Oath of Supremacie to be lawfull for any Catholique to take . Every Oath that is accompanyed with the three said conditions or companions , viz. veritie , justice , and judgement ( in the opinion of all Divines , Canon and Civil Lawyers ) is a lawfull Oath : but such is the Oath of Supremacie above recited in every part and particle of the same . Ergo. The Minor is proved , discoursing of every branch in particular , and first , of the first branch : wherein I sweare that the King is only Supreame Governour of this Realme , as well in all Spirituall or Ecclesiasticall things or causes , touching the Church of the said Realm : as Temporall touching the State , or of any other his Dominions . Which I doe sweare discreetly as a thing true and just . For there is no other Supreme Governour of temporall things to be assigned , but the King : as all will confesse : nor of Ecclesiasticall things , or the Church of England ; as by a sufficient Enumeration may be proved . For the Parliam●nt , is not supreame governour of the Churches within this Realme ; when as according to the naturall light of reason , the King is governour of that : and therefore not supreame . The Primate cannot be assigned supreame governour , when as he hath all his authoritie of government from the King , and so he hath a Superior . A Lay-eldership cannot be supreame governour , for although it be unknowne , what it is , or from whence it receiveth its authoritie ; yet I thinke no Lay-eldership so barbarous : as not to admit the King chiefe governour of the same . Neither can the Pope be any way supreame governour of the aforesaid Church : because he professeth himself only supreame head and governour of the Catholique Church and of no other according to Saint Paul , 1 Cor. 5.12 . what is it to him to judge of them that are without , of which Catholique Church His u Majestie d●th not claime to be head . Neither will he be governour w of any spirituall or ecclesiasticall thing therein , as conceiving the same both superstitious and idolatrous . Ergo. the King must be supreame governour of the Protestant Church . That the King is ( only ) Governour is proved : because none other can be assigned his equall in preheminencie of government in the aforesaid Protestant Church . For the second or third branch it is likewise proved . For I sweare them likewise discreetly , truly and justly . viz. that no forrein Prince , Person , Prelate , &c. hath or ought to have any jurisdiction , &c. within this Realme ( in the x said Protestant Church ) which I adde as before , because according to the intention of the Law and Law-maker ( as I have before said ) it was so meant . For neither doth His Majestie or did Queene Elizabeth claime to be chiefe Governour of the Catholique Religion , or Romane Church , or any jurisdiction therein . It being by them both ( as I have often said ) abhorred as superstitious , and abolished for the same reason by the said Queene and State of England : therefore it is against reason , and a kinde of pettie treason to sweare either of them governour of a Religion which they apprehend so evill ▪ but in respect of the Protestant Church established , the Pope is a forrein Person and Prelate : and his jurisdiction forrein . Neither hath he , or any other forrein Person any jurisdiction in the aforesaid y Church , or ought to have : for as I have said in the fourth note , out of Saint Paul : as all those that are of the Catholique faith , are domesticks of that faith : and all that are not of the same faith , are forreiners to it : so all that are of the Protestant faith ( of which His Majestie is governour ) are domesticks of the same : and all that are not of the same , are forreiners to that Religion . Hence appeares the truth of the said branches : wherein is said ( in the second ) That no forrein Prince , &c. and ( in the third ) I doe utterly renounce and forsake all forrein jurisdictions , &c. which I doe justly and lawfully renounce as well in respect of the Protestant Church , as of the Catholique : for as I have said the Pope is truly a forreiner to the Protestant Church : in respect of which , I must by the law renounce his jurisdiction . And he is no forreiner in respect of the Catholique Church , in which I am bound to respect him and his jurisdiction : for if all Catholiques be domesticks one to ●he other ( as I have proved out of Saint Paul ) how can the Pope who is chief of that faith be said to be a z forreiner ? his jurisdiction being as internall and intrinsecall , as innate and naturall to every Catholique in the world ; as it is to him , that stands next him in his chamber at Rome . And therefore there being no forrein jurisdiction in the Catholique Church , in every sence I may lawfully renounce all forrein jurisdictions . The fourth and last branch can have no difficultie at all , with any Catholique . So that the words of this Oath seeme to me so cleere and lawfull , since the establishment of the Protestant Church ; that it may be taken of any Catholique without any the least danger of Perjurie , or any other sinne ( scandall being avoyded ) or without mentall reservation or secret equivocation : that I admire that any man hath so long scrupulized to the losse of himselfe and fortunes : when as being necessitated to take the same , and scandall being easily to be avoyded ( as I have said out of Diana and others ) he might have prevented his owne ruine with a safe conscience : as I conceive Sir Iohn Winter and other men of estates did , who are reported to have lately taken the same . It may be objected first , that this Oath thus explicated , hath no coherencie , the first branch with the second and third ; and therefore that it be coherent , and taken conformably to the intention of the law-maker , as we sweare the King to be onely Supreame Governour of the Church of England in the first branch ; so ought we in the second and third branch to renounce all Jurisdiction forreign to the same . To which I answer first , that coherencie is no condition requisite to an oath , but impertinent to the truth or falshood of the same : for there be many things of a different nature inserted in an oath . Secondly , that there is a most perfect coherencie in the aforesaid explication : for as in the first branch , I sweare the King Head of the Church of England , so in the second and third : I abjure all forreigne Jurisdictions whatsoever . Which are the very direct words of the oath : for there are no words in any branch signifying a renunciation of all Jurisdiction forreigne to the Protestant Church of England . Whence there is a great difference between renouncing all Jurisdiction forreigne to the particular Church of England , and renouncing all forren Jurisdiction . For a forren Jurisdiction renounced is rightly described A power or right denied to be extent to the swearer by any law , and is more generall , then a Jurisdiction forreign to the Protestant Church : which is onely a power not extent to a Protestant quâ talis : which although it be forren to the said Church ; yet it may be properly extent and appertaining to the swearer . So that it is intended by the said oath ; that as in the first branch , we sweare the King onely Supreame Governor of the Protestant Church within this Realme and his Dominions : so in the second and third ; we are to renounce all forren Jurisdictions whatsoever ; which either the Pope , or any other forren Person hath , or ought to have in the same : which every Catholique may lawfully do , notwithstanding that generall saying ; That the Pope hath Iurisdiction over all Christians : for that is meant , a generall Jurisdiction in the Catholique Church , either actuall or potentiall , extent to all ; which is forren to none : and which , by taking this oath is not denyed . I answer thirdly , that all penall lawes ( as is this law for taking the oath ) in doubtfull words , are ever to be a taken in the more favourable sense , and which makes the law to containe no falshood , or injustice . And therefore in this law to sweare , as the words lye , may be done without any inj●stice or falshood ; which is and ought to be presumed to be the minde of the lawmaker ; for no law or lawmaker intends perjurie . And therefore it is a frivolous thing to invent scrupulous crotchets , which the words doe not import . It may be objected secondly , that the oath must be interpreted according to the intention of the law and lawmaker : for as Suares saith , lib. 6● . de leg . cap. 1. upon the will and intention of the lawmaker ( which is the soule of the law the substance and force of the law doth chi●fly depend : therefore it by any meanes , the will of the lawmaker may be knowne , according to it especially we must understand the words of the law . But the will of the lawmaker is sufficiently knowne concerning this oath , to make it apparently unlawfull for any Catholique to take as appeareth by the words of King Iames of blessed memory , saying , ( in his Premonition pag. 9. and in his Apology for the oath , pag. 2. and 9. ) that by the oath of Allegiance , he intended to demand of his subjects nothing else , but a profession of that temporall Allegiance and civill obedience , which all subjects , by the law of God and nature , doe owe to their lawfull Prince , &c. For as the Oath of Supremacie , ( saith he ) was devised for putting a difference betweene Papists and them of our profession . So was the oath of Allegiance ordained for making a difference between the civilly obedient Papists and the perverse disciples of the Powder treason ; by which words it appeareth that King Iames held , both the law and the law maker intended by the oath of Supremacie , to put a difference betweene Papists and Protestants : and that no Papist would take that oath , wherein the Jurisdiction of the Pope , was intended to be abjured , Ergo , the said oath of Supremacie is to be interpreted accordingly , all doubtfulnesse of words set aside ; and consequenter unlawfull for any Catholique to take . To the Major of which Objection ; I answer first , granting the same . Secondly with a distinction ; that the intentions of the law and law maker are to bee sought , when they interpret the law in a truer sense , then the plaine words doe , as they lie ; otherwise not , lest it want veritie . To Suarez I answer , that himselfe saith in the place before cited , that if at any time the propertie of the words of an oath should induce any injustice , or like absurditie , concerning the minde , or meaning of the lawmaker : they must be drawne to a sense , although improper ; wherein the law may be just and reasonable : for this is presumed to be the minde of the law maker , as it hath beene declared by many lawes in F. tit . de lege . thus Suarez . So that although there were in the words of this oath divers significations impropper and unusuall ; yet in the opinion of Suarez , it might be taken ; and the words interpreted in the truest sense , abstracting from the reall intention of the law maker : how much more then ( say I ) the words being not improper , or unusuall , but according to the intention of the b law and law maker , may they be taken in the more favourable sence , which may make the law to be just and reasonable ? See for this doctrine Can. Cum tu de testibus cap. 16. Can. ad nostram de Iurejurando , cap. 21. et de regulis ●●ris in 6. reg . 49. in paenis leg . Benignius F. de leg . Leg. In ambigua ibidem . Hence it followeth first out of the doctrine of the said Suarez , that although the words and sentences contained in this oath , being considered barely by themselves , and without due circumstances ( to wit , the intention of the law and lawmaker , and to what end and purpose the s●id oath was framed ) may seeme to some doubtfull and ambiguous ( although to me they seeme not so ) that is , not cleare and morally certaine ; and so for one to sweare them in that doubtfull sence , were to expose himselfe to danger of perjurie : yet considering ( as I have said ) that such doubtfull words , are to be taken in the more favourable sense , and which maketh the c law to be just and reasonable , and to contain no falshood or injustice . If any one sweare ▪ those words , which of themselves are doubtfull , in no doubtfull sense , but in a true and determinate sense , and wherein they are not doubtfull , but cleere and morally certaine , there is no danger of perjurie at all . It may seeme to follow secondly out of the aforesaid doctrine , that such as tooke the oath of Supremacie in King Henry the eighth dayes ( which rather then those famous and glorious men , Sir Thomas Moore and Bishop Fisher would take , they worthily chose to die ) were not to be condemned of perjurie ; because it might be supposed , that they being learned Bishops and Noblemen , knowing what belonged to an oath , did draw the same to some improper sense , which ought to have beene the intention of the aforesaid King to make the law just ; as if they should have sworne the then King , Head or chiefe of the Church of his countrey ; for that he was Sovereigne Lord and ruler of both persons Spirituall and Temporall : all sorts being bound to obey his lawfull civill lawes and commandements . And so in this sense ( although it be a kinde of improper speech ) every King is Head of the Clergy and all others of his owne Countrey . Or peradventure they might sweare him Supreame Head of the Church of England ; that is , Chiefe of the congregation of beleevers within his dominions : for so in our language , we commonly say him , to be the head of a Colledge , Court or Citie , that is the chiefe ; and him to be chiefe who is supreame therein . The Church being then taken by all Divines for a congregation of men ; Why might not King Henrie be improperly sworne ( in the opinion of Suarez ) Head of the then congregation in England ? So that what Sir Thomas Moore lawfully and piously refused with relation to the intention of the aforesaid King , others might without perjurie take with relation to the law of God ( abstracting from all unlawfull intentions ) to wit , that every oath be just and reasonable as being to be taken in Veritie , Iustice and Iudgement : and so what was unlawfull in a proper sence , might at lest be free from Perjurie in an improper . Thus understanding the first branch ; and the second and third in the same sence before delivered , they might peradventure be excused ( as I have said ) from perjurie ; But never from sinne . For considering the state of England in those dayes , and the absolute intention of the King which ( well knowne to the whole world ) was ; to be sworne Supreame Head d of the Catholique Church , Catholique religion still here remaining as I have said : his oath was as much different from this e now oath of Supremacie , as darknesse from light : For by this , the Queene claimed not the Supremacie granted by Christ to Saint Peter , as did her father : but onely to be Supreame governour of a Church , out of which , she would not onely discard the Pope , but likewise roote out all Catholique religion , contrary to her fathers minde as I have shewed : so that the question in the said Kings dayes , was about an Article of faith , viz. Whether the Supremacie were granted by God to the King , or to the Pope . Which Article they were bound with losse of their lives to have professed being called thereunto : for then did occurre the times of obligation before expressed ( by Saint Thomas and other Divines ) for the profession of a mans faith . As when the honour and glory of God , and the spirituall benefit of his neighbour should exact the same . Now when or what greater honour could a man have done to God , then to have stood for the truth of the Gospel , and defence of the Catholike faith being so opposed ? And in whom could there have beene more edification and greater example given , for simple and unlearned men to follow , then in Bishops and great men of authoritie . Neither was it to purpose for them to alleadge , that they were in danger of their lives and fortunes ; for they were bound to loose both , rather then to denie any one Article of faith . For although I have said , that a man is not bound , with danger of life , or fortunes , to abstaine from a thing lawfull , or of its owne nature indifferent ( as the going to a Protestant Church in a Protestant Countrey , taking the oath of Alleagiance , or the now oath of Supremacy ; every of which is farre enough from an Article of faith , or point of religion ; onely more cryed downe , because out of fashion , then out of any grounded reason or judgement ) to avoid the scandall of we●ke ones , after instruction or admonition given of the nature of the thing , and the danger in abstaining Yet I never said , that a man was not bound to professe his religion in time convenient ; or that hee might deny his faith , or any part or point of the same for feare of death ; but absolutely the contrary : hence I say , that the Supremacie in those daies , being a point of religion , and an article of faith , although they might be excused from perjurie , yet never from sinne and scandall . And therefore I conceive that Suares onely intendeth that then lawes and oathes invented contrary to the law of God , may be drawne to an improper sence , when scandall may be avoyded with integritie of faith . And so those that tooke the aforesaid Kings oath , I leave to the judgement of God : for as Saint Paul saith , 1 Cor. 4. It is our Lord that judgeth ; who best knoweth the rectitude of all mens actions , and the secret intentions of each mans heart . The Minor of the said objection is denyed . And to the words of K. Iames saying : that as the Oath of Supremacie was devised for putting a difference between Papists and them of our profession . So was , &c. I answer that the said King did not by those words , undertake to give an absolute and totall reason , why the said oath was devised , ( himselfe not being the deviser or maker thereof ) but spake according to the effect , which hee saw the oath of Supremacie tooke in his daies : who conceiving that Catholiques held it , not an oath lawfull for them to take ( and therefore some in King Henries daies refused the same out of conscience ; others since the abrogation of Masse and establishment of the Protestant Church , out of scruples , not considering either the change of times , or alteration of the Church ) conceived likewise a difference to result thereby betweene them and Protestants ; so that the said f renowned King did not intend by the aforesaid words , to make known the intention of the law or lawmaker , but onely spake what an effect the said devised oath had in Catholiques wrought . That neither of the said oathes of Supremacie were framed to put a difference betweene Papists and Protestants is evident by what I have said ; for in King Henrie his dayes , there were no Protestants g knowne in England to differ withall : and that oath was made onely and solely for his pleasure . And in the said Queens daies , the oath was onely made to give and acknowledge her power and authoritie in Spirituall or Ecclesiasticall things ; thereby ( as I have sufficiently said ) to propagate and establish the Protestant Church : and to no other end or purpose . The Major and Minor being thus answered , the consequence appeares naught ; and the assertion for the lawfulnesse of the oath in force . If any simple man ( pardon the bluntnesse of my speech , for I know that no discreete or judicious man of either learning o● piety will justly censure me ) shall whisper in a corner that this doctrine is scandalous and unheard of : and that divers have suffered and shed their blood , rather then they would admit the same : and which , if it had beene lawfull , others of his tribe would have found out , before this time : ( hee should have added to men of great qualitie ) and therefore it being no matter of faith , none ought to beleeve it . I forgive the poore man ; for he speakes out of hypocrisie or ignorance , or both ; for he cannot tell you with learning and sinceritie why , or how it is scandalous . And if any did suffer for the same , I pray let him likewise whisper when , or in what yeere , or Kings reign ? and then compare his speech to what I have said . Yet whensoever they did it , because they would not sinne against their consciences ; which rather then to offend , they ( not understanding the ●ruth of the said doctrine , and their phansie being the contrary way strong ) were bound to doe . Yet good brother Simple doe not perswade me against my conscience ; unlesse you can confute me in reason : for I conceive , that I say nothing ( although not written of before ) but what is evident with Grace in reason ; although it be not certaine by divine f●ith . And therein I shew my selfe a true friend to my distressed Countrey ; for certus amicus in re incerta cernitur . A sure friend is tried in a doubtfull matter . Yet I should be loath , that any man should charge me with the least thing said , as contrary to faith , or the doctrine of the Catholique Church . ( To which and whose censure , I doe in all humility submit my selfe , for all my doings , sayings and writings ; as well for the satisfaction of mine owne conscience , as that ignorant braines may take no offence ) . And i● this doctrine were never heard of before ; what then ? Is it therefore false or scandalous ? And if your tribe did not finde it out before ; is it a wonder ? None at all with me : for I should wonder indeed , to heare you the inventers of any thing beneficiall to Gods Church ; ( howsoever you may and doe write over , and translate other mens workes ; and so seeme to ignorant men , to finde out something for the good of the Church , that was never lost , or before wanting therein ) because as yet I have never heard or knowne so much . Those therfore that shall hearken to such whisperings , I will wish them no other punishment then that the Vicar of fooles may be their ghostly father . In the meane time ( maugre all censures ) I will thanke God , that he hath enabled me to helpe my distressed friend at a dead lift , by counselling and instructing to a lawfull ( I had almost said meritorious , but that I feared more anger ) and discreet act . Thus then seriously to conclude ; If any man shall yet remaine unsatisfied : I knowing , that an Angel of light cannot infuse either wisdome into a foole , or prudence into a simple man : and nothing harder for the best Divine , then to yeeld the continuance of a serene conscience to a scrupulous person : doe only desire and intreat , th●t what he himselfe either cannot , or will not receive satisfaction in ; he would not judge amisse in others ; and so be scandalized , ( which will prove to himselfe rather the scandall of Pharisees then weake ones ) according to the exhortation of the Apostle : Qui non manducat , manducantem non Spernat : he that eateth not , let him not despise him that eateth . As for mine own part what I preach with Gods grace I will practise . And if any man can give a better reason , for the contrary to what I doe , then I can give for what I say : I doe hereby promise to subscribe : otherwise let every one looke and dive into his owne actions , and not into other mens ; for he shall render an account , onely for his owne , and not for theirs . And because All in these times ( perchance ) are not bound under sinne to imbrace these opinions ( the h question not being , which is absolutely the safest or perfectest way , and all dispositions of each soule , not being alike ; but only whether the said opinions are forbidden or not forbidden by the Law of God , or the Church , so that absolutely in case of necessitie they may not bee done ; and what may best in prudence bee done ; ( yet safe enough , with a good conscience , and without sinne ) the condition of times and persons considered ) those that shall not imbrace the same ; but suffer for their conscience sake ; I shall beseech Almightie God to lay no more upon them , then they are able to beare ; that they doe nothing against their conscience ; for that were to carry a continuall hell about them : which of all earthly miseries were the greatest : from which God of his infinite mercy preserve us all : Amen . FINIS . Appendix . HEre followeth the forme of recantation enjoyned the Lollards , Anno Regis Richardi Secundi decimo nono . Together with the resolution of the Fathers in the Councel of Trent , 1564. and the Oathes of Supremacie enacted 35. Henry 8. and 1. Elizabeth ; as also a proviso for expounding the Oath the fift of Elizabeth . and the Admonition annexed to the Injunctions Elizabeth 1. whereof there is often mention made in the Animadversions . Ex Rotulo clausarum de Anno decimo nono Richardi Secundi — m. 18. dorso . MEmorand . quod primo di● Septembris Anno Regni Regis Richardi secundi ▪ post conquestū decimo nono Willielmus Dinet , Nich-Taylour , Nich-Poucher , et Willielmus Steynour de Nottingham in Cancellar . ipsius Regis personaliter , constituti Sacramenta divisim praestiterunt sub eo qui sequitur tenore . I William Dynet byfor yhow worschipefull fader and Lorde Archbishop of Yho●ke and yhour Clergie with my free will and full avysede swere to God and to all his Seynts upon this holy Gospels , yat fro this day forthwarde I shall worship ymages with preying , and offering unto hem in the worschep of the Seintes , that they be made after . And also I shall nevermore despyse pygremage ne states of holy Chyrche in noe degree . And also I shall be buxum to the lawes of holy Chyrche and to yhow as myne Archbishop and to mine other ordinaries and Curates , and keepe tho lawes up my power , and meyntein hem . And alsoe I shall never more meyntein ne techen , ne defenden Errours , conclusions , ne techinges of the Lollardes , ne swych conclusions and techynges that men clepyth Lollards doctrine , ne I shall her bokes ne swych bokes ne hem or any suspect or diffamede of Lollardery receive or company withall wittingly or defend in tho ma●ters , and if I know any swych , I shall with all the haste that I may doe yhow or els your ner officers to wytten and of her bokes . And also I sha●l excite and stirre all tho to good doctrine that I have hyndred with myne Doctrine up my power . And also I shall stond to yhour declaration which es heresy or errour and do thereafter . And also what penance yhe woll for that I have done for meyteyning of this fals doctryn injuyne me and I shall fulfill . And I submit me thereto up my power . And also I shall make no other glosse of this myne oath , bot as the words stonde . And if it be soe that I com agayn or do agayn this oth or any party thereof , I yhelde me here cowpable as an heretyk and to be punyshed by the law of an heretyke , and to forfet all my godes to the Kings will withouten any other processe of law ; and thereto I require the Notarie to make of all this the which is my will an Instrument agayns me . Et ex habundanti idem Willielmus Dyn●t eodem die voluit et recognovit quod omnia bona et catalla sua mobilia nobis sint forisfacta in casu quo ipse juramentum praedictum seu aliqua in eodem juramento contenta de cetero contravenerit ullo modo . Declaratio Patrum concilli Tridentini , circa frequentationem Ecclesiarum , Eo tempore , quo hereticiritus exercentur , aut praedicatur haeresis . Pax Christi quae exuperat omnem sensum , custodiat corda vestra & intelligentias vestras , Amen . Viri Dignitate conspicui , religione , & multis nominibus illustres aequam & honestam postulationem vestram ad nos detulerunt N. & C. quam à vobis ad se praelatam asserebant cujus hoc est exemplum . REligione in Anglia mutatâ , & poenâ propositâ , si quis Diebus Dominicis & festis à templis abstineat , interim Dum Psalmi , & ex utroque testamento lectiones , lingua vulgari recitantur : laici multi catholici , nobiles , & Deum timentes ; partim in carcere agentes , partim mox eò conjiciendi , amicorum & consanguineorum precibus ac monitionibus & imminentium periculorum metu invitantur , ut saltem ea tenus , de sententia denuo , se permittant , ut in templis protestantium tantisper interesse velint Diebus Dominicis & aliis festis , Dum Psalmi ex more linguâ vulgari , decant arisoliti & lectiones ex Bibliis linguâ item vulgari depromptae ; nec non conciones quae ad eorum dogmata approbanda apud pop . frequentiùs habentur ; commemoratae sunt . Iam qui huc usque nullo modo deduci potuerint , ut publicis predictis precibus , & concionibus interessent , magnopere 〈◊〉 postulant , quid his faciendum censeant viri pii & 〈◊〉 Nam si nullo animae periculo , aut nulla Dei offensione , ●ubli●o regni sui Decreto parere & obedire liceat : liben●●r ●d fecerint . Contra vero si quid in hac re periculum sit sa●utis aeternae , aut l●sae Divinae Majestatis : quae vis perpeti de●reverunt potiùs qùam quicquam agere aut committere unde Deum off●nsum iri , aut irritatum intelligant . Haec quest●● cum multas pias & religiosas conscientias exerceat , & co●tu●bet , r●ga●di estis omnes per v●scera misericordiae , & charitatem quam Christus à suis omnibus exigit , ut eam palu● & dilucide quam primùm expediatis , qua multi in ho● regno implicat● torquentur . Quod haec charta complectitur , nullius nomine singulariter praefertur quia non ad unum aliquem pertinet , quod hic petitur , sed ad omnes fere nobiles quos Anglia habet Catholicos , quibus jam multis modis pericula intentantur . Iis universis in tua illustrissima Dominatione magna spes auxilii effulget , si eadem vel Dei , vel nobilitatis respectu , agere dignabitur cum amicis quos in concilio habet Tridentino ut huic questioni , quae totius nobilitatis nomine his adjuncta est , responsum maturum & Deliberatum accommodetur , & huc commoda tuae D. opera perferatur . In quo haud dubie acquiessent perturbatae nunc conscientiae , si ex tetam sancto & nobili patre certiores fieri possint , quid patres hac de re iudicent . Quanquam fortasse tutum non fuerit , hanc questionem publice in concilio proponi , ne res divulgata nostrorum protestantium animos exacerbet , & aliquibus periculum acceleret , ( nisi tuae prudentiae aliter videatur ) ideo tua prudentia consultius fecerit , si ita cum selectis quibusdam hanc causam egerit , ut quod ipsi in hac causa piissimi & doctissimi theologi consulti significaverint , id proinde valeat , ac si universi patres sententias dixissent : Caeterum hoc totum tuae Do judicio , & arbitrio relinquendi satius sit , ut ipsa quod magis in rem esse prospiciat , ●d libere agat . Qui in Anglia ●unc sunt theologi partim metuunt , partim varie respondent ▪ ideo plane omnibus satisfaciet , quod te procurante ex Triden●●no huc respondebitur . Pro quo vestro tam firme christiano & vere religioso animo non possumu● non Deo opt . max. agere gratias , & nobis magnopere gratulari . Etsi enim calamitatum vestrarum sensus , cunctos vehementer tangat & cruciet , ut Christiana charitas hortatur , quae tam arcto necessitudinis vinculo omnes devinctos & constrictos tenet , ut mutuo afficiat membra , atque fratrum commoda & incommoda non aliena sed propria ducat ; in illo tamen non est minima consolatio , quod calamitosis hisce temporibus & in eo potissimum regno , in quo fides religiosorum miserè jacet , cernimus nullo iniuriarum concursu , aut metus vi charitatis vestrae ardorem extingu● , aut fidem convelli , aut constantiam labefactari : quinimò vos esse , qui in tanta rerum omnium confusione , ac molestiarum turbulentissimá tempestate nunquam curvaveritis genua ante Baal , non sine magna Divini nominis Christianaeque disciplinae gloria . Ne igitur vestris constans animus , qui nullis cōmodis ad impietatem torqueri flective unquam potuit , fallacibus rationibus ad vestram perniciem comparatis aut Divinae legis ignoratione pietatisve simulatione deciperetur & minueretur : quod sustinemus dignum & Christiani hominis officio debitum existimavimus vestris piissimis optatis morem gerere ; causamque vestram examinandam accuratè , diligenter , maturèque commissimus gravissimis quibusdam patribus ac reverendissimis Dominis Archiepiscopo Bracharensi , Archiepiscopo Lanci●nensi , Episcopo Dombriscensi , Episcopo Lerenensi , reverendo patri Iacobo Laine● generali societatis Iesu : simulque spectatissimis quibusdam Doctoribus Alphonso Salmeroni Fratri Petro de Soto quem arbitramur vobis & facie & nomine notissimum ; D. Georgio de Fr. Francisco Fercensi . Doct. Melchiori Cornelio : Iacobo Paiva de Andrada item Doctori , quorum omnium religio , pietas & eruditio certissimis testimoniis explorata est . Quorum sententias nostro etiam judicio comprobatas non dubitamus quin sententiae totius concilii instar sitis merito habituri . H●i igitur patres ac Theologi quibus haec provincia data est , cum s●pe convenissent , atque diligenter & circumspectè divina oracula , & sanctorum patrum sententias & instituta deliberando evolvissent , communibus suffragiis concluserunt minime vobis sine magno scelere , divinaque indignatione licere hujusmodi hereticorum precibus , illorumve concion●bus in●eresse ; ac longe multum praestare , quaevis atrocissima perpeti quam in profligatissimis sceleratissimisque rit●bus , quovis signo illis consentire . &c. The Oath of Supremacie Enacted 35. Henrici octavi . I A. B. Having now the vaile of darknesse of the usurped power , authoritie and jurisdiction of the See and Bishops of Rome , clearely taken away from mine eyes , doe utterly testifie , and declare in my conscience , that neither the See , nor the Bishop of Rome , nor any forrein Potentate , hath , nor ought to have any jurisdiction , power , or authoritie , within this Realme , nether by Gods , law nor by any other just law , or means . And though by sufferance and abuse in times passed , they aforesaid have usurped , and vendicated a fained and unlawfull power and jurisdiction within this Realme , which hath been supported till few yeeres passed , therefore because it might be deemed , and thought thereby , that I tooke or take it for just and good , I therefore now doe clearely and franckly renounce , refuse , relinquish , and forsake that pretended authoritie , power and jurisdiction , both of the See and Bishop of Rome , and of all other forrein powers . And that I shall never consent and agree , that the foresaid See , or Bishop of Rome or any of their successours , shall practise , exercise , or have any manner of authoritie , jurisdiction or power within this Realme , or any other the Kings Realmes or Dominions , nor any forrein Potentate , of what estate , degree , or condition soever he be , but that I shall resist the same at all times , to the uttermost of my power : And that I shall beare faith , truth , and true Allegiance to the Kings Majestie , and to his heires and successours , declared or hereafter to be declared by the authoritie of the Act made in the Session of the Parliament holden at Westminster the fourteenth day of Ianuary , in the five and thirtieth yeere , and in the said Act made in the eight and twentieth yeere of the Kings Majesties reigne . And that I shall accept , repute and take the Kings Majestie , his heires and successours ( when they or any of them shall enjoy his place to be the only supreame Head in earth , under God of the Church of England and Ireland , and of all other His Highnesses Dominions . And that with my body , cunning , wit , and uttermost of my power , without guile , fraud , or other undue means , I shall observe , keepe , maintaine , and defend all the Kings Majesties styles , titles , and rights , with the whole effects and contents of the Acts provided for the same , and all other Acts and Statutes made , or to be made within this Realme , in and for that purpose , and the derogation , extirpation and extinguishment , of the usurped and pretended authoritie , power and jurisdiction of the See and Bishop of Rome , and all other forrein Potentates , as afore . And also aswell the said Statute made in the said eight and twentieth yeer , as the Statute made in the said Session of the Parliament holden the 35. yeere of the Kings Majesties Reigne , for establishment and declaration of His highnesse succession , and all Acts and Statutes made , and to be made in confirmation and corroboration of the Kings Majesties power , and Supremacie in earth , of the Church of England and Ireland , and of other the Kings Dominions . I shall also defend and maintaine with , by body and goods , and with all my wit and power , and this I shall doe against all manner of persons , of what estate , dignitie , degree , or condition they be , and in no wise doe nor attempt , nor to my power ●uffer , or know to be done , or attempted , directly or indirectly , any thing or things privily or apertly to the let , hinderance , damage or derogation of any of the said Statutes , or of any part of them , by any manner of means , or for or by any manner of pretence . And in case any Oath hath been made by me to any person or persons in maintenance , defence , or favour of the See and Bishop of Rome , or his authoritie , jurisdiction or power , or against any Statutes aforesaid , I repute the same as vaine and annihilate , and shall wholly and truly observe and keepe this Oath , so helpe me God , all Saints , and the holy Evangelists . The Oath of Supremacie enacted 1 ● . Elizabeth , cap. 1o. I , A. B. Doe utterly testifie and declare in my conscience , that the Queenes highnesse is the onely Supreame governour of this Realme , and of all other her Highnesse Dominions , and Countries , as well in all Spirituall or Ecclesiasticall things , or causes , as Temporall , and that no forreigne Prince , Person , Prelate , State , or Potentate , hath or ought to have any jurisdiction , power , superioritie , preheminence , or authoritie , Ecclesiasticall , or Spirituall , within this Realme : and therefore I doe utterly renounce and forsake all forraigne jurisdictio●s , powers , superiorities , and authorities , and doe ●●omise that from henceforth I shall beare faith an●●rue Allegiance to the Queenes Highnesse , her 〈◊〉 and lawfull Successour and to my power , shall ass●st and defend all jurisdictions , priviledges , preheminences , and authorities , granted or belonging to the Queenes Highnesse , her Heires , and Successours , or united and annexed to the Imperiall Crowne of this Realme . So helpe me God , and by the Contents of this Booke . A Proviso in an Act 5 o. Elizabeth , c. 1o. for expounding this Oath . PRovided also , that the Oath expressed in the said Act made in the said first yeere shall be taken and expounded in such forme as is set forth in an Admonition annexed to the Queenes Majesties Injunctions , published in the first yeere of her Majesties reigne , that is to say , to confesse and acknowledge in her Majestie , her Heires and Successours , none other authoritie , then that was challenged and lately used by the noble King Henrie the eighth , and King Edward the sixth , as in the said Admonition more plainly may appeare . The Admonition annexed to the Injunctions Elizabeth 1o. followes with this Title . An Admonition to simple men deceived by malicious . THe Queenes Majestie being enformed , that in certaine places of this Realme , sundry of her native subjects , being called to Ecclesiasticall Ministrie in the Church , be by sinister perswasion , and perverse construction , induced to finde some scruple in the forme of an Oath , which by an Act of the last Parliament is prescribed to be required of divers persons for the recognition of their Allegiance to her Majestie , which certainly neither was ever meant , ne by any equitie of words , or good sense can be thereof gathered ; would that all her loving subjects should understand , that nothing was , is , or shall be meant , or intended by the same Oath , to have any other Dutie , Allegiance or Bond required by the same Oath , then was acknowledged to be due to the most noble Kings of famous memorie , King Henry the eight her Majesties Father , or King Edward the sixt her Majesties Brother . And further her Majestie forbiddeth all manner her subjects to give eare or credit to such perverse and malicious persons , which most sinisterly and maliciously labour , to notifie to her loving subjects , how by the words of the said Oath it may be collected that the Kings or Queenes of this Realme possessours of the Crowne , may challenge authoritie and power of Ministrie of Divine Offices in the Church , wherein her said subjects be much abused by such evill disposed persons . For certainly her Majestie neither doth , ne ever will challenge any other authoritie , then that was challenged and lately used by the said noble Kings of famous memory , King Henrie the eight , and King Edward the sixth , which is and was of ancient time due to the Imperiall Crowne of this Realme , that is , under God to have the Sovereigntie and rule over all manner of persons borne within these her Realmes , Dominions and Countries , of what estate either Ecclesiasticall or Temporall soever they be , so as no other forreigne power , shall or ought to have any superioritie over them . And if any person that hath conceived any other sense of the forme of the said Oath shall accept the same Oath , with this interpretation , sense , or meaning , her Majestie is well pleased to accept every such in that beh●lfe , as her good and obedient subjects , and shall acquit them of all manner penalties contained in the said Act , against such as shall peremptorily or obstinately refuse to take the same Oath . The Conclusion of the Authour of the Animadversions to the Reader . THis Treatise , Christian Reader , penned by a learned and intelligent Romanist , resembles Ortwhinus his Booke intituled Fasciculus rerum expetendarum et fugiendarum , or the two baskets of figg●s , Ier. 24.1.2 . set before the Temple , one basket had very good figges , and the other very naughtie . Among the very good are these assertions . That in the Protestant Church there is no Idolatrie committed . That the Liturgie of the Church of England hath not any malignitie in it , that may ●ustifie Popish Recusancie . That the Oathes of All●giance and Supremacie are iustifiable by the law of God. But among the very naughtie , are these that when we are questioned about our Religion before a Magistrate , we may vulpizure cum vulpibus , goe beyond the foxe if wee can in fox-craft : that in taking an oath we may frame a meaning to our selves which is proved contrary to the meaning of him that made , or ministreth the Oath that we may by our outward gestures and actions make shew of that Religion , of which indeed we are not : that a Prudent Catholique may both frequent the Protestant Church in publique ( as this Priest s●ith he hath done often ) and goe to Masse , ●r say Masse in private . This is no better then to weare a garment not on our bodies , ●ut on our soules made of 〈◊〉 , and to plough in Christs ●ield with an Oxe and an As●e , and to 〈◊〉 betweene two opinions reproved by the holy Prophet Eliah ; t●is is to be of the luke-warme temper , which is so 〈◊〉 to the 〈◊〉 of God , that he threateneth to spew such out of his mouth . Of which beware , Christian Reader , as thou tendere●t the everlasting health of thy soule . If the Lord be God follow him , but if Baal be he , goe after him . For assure thy selfe whatsoever the Romish Baal may doe , God will retaine no halting followers . It is not 〈◊〉 to worship God in thy heart , but thou must worship him also with thy body ; for he who hath created both , and redeemed both , will be worshipped in both , and served by both . Say thou never didst worship Baal in thy heart , yet if thy knee bowed unto him , or thy mouth kissed him , God will account thee for none of his servants , 1 King. 19.18 . It is not sufficient to beleeve in Christ , thou must also confesse his * Name ; for a with the heart man beleeveth unto righteousnesse , and with the mouth co●f●ssi●n is made unto salvation . It is not sufficient that the Religion we professe be true , if we be not true to it : neither will our faith save us , if we save not it and keepe it uncorrupt . What the Oratour speaketh of piety towards our parents , may be more truely affirmed of piety towards God : religion is wounded with a gesture , a n●d , nay a looke . It was said of old , saith our Saviour , Thou shalt not commit adulterie , but I say unto you ( Matth. 5 27.28 . ) That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adulterie with her in his heart . If we goe with a friend to Masse out of a lust or meere curiositie to see the Whore of Babylon in her richest dresse upon a high Festival day , we have alreadie committed spirituall adultery with her in our heart . And therefore Constantius the Emperour , as Ambrose testifieth ; thought himselfe polluted if he had but seene an Altar : and the noble Martyrs in the first and best ages of the Church would rather suffer the last drop of bloud in their heart to be spil● , then cast but one graine of Franckincense to the fire in honour of the Idols . And when Iulian by a slight , as Sozomen writeth , had drawne some Christian souldiers to doe some kinde of reverence in this kinde to his heathenish Idols , he cunningly sitting by the Altar , where there was an Image of his Pagan Deitie , and calling them to bestow some gold upon them ; as soone as ever they perceived how they were circumvented , they run backe againe into the place where incense was burning to the Idol , and cast downe all the gold they had received before the Emperours face . And Valentinian carrying the Mace before Iulian the Apostata , when the heathenish Sexton cast some holy water upon him , he ●eld him downe at a blow , wiped off the water , saying , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 . Theod. hist. l. 3. c. 15. In like manner when Licinius bad * Auxentius cut off a branch of a Vine laden with cluste●s of grapes , and he suspecting nothing had ●one it : Licinius bad him put that branch at the feete of the Image of Bacchus : but Auxentius answered , God forbid O Emperour that I should doe it , for I am a Christian : and the Emperour replying , either doe it , or get thee out of my presence , he presently looseneth his belt and quits his service . To whom I will adde one * more mentioned by Theodoret , who chose rather to be most cruelly tortured then he would be brought to contribute a halfe-penny towards the repairing of an Idol temple . Let us warme our zeale at the embers of these holy Martyrs and Confessours , and be ever mindfull of the holy Apostles exhortation ; Have no fellowship at all with the workes of darkenesse , Ephes. 5.11 . but reprove them rather : be not unequally yoaked with unbeleevers , 2 Cor. 6.14 . For what fellowship hath righteousnesse with unrighteousnesse , or what communion hath light with darkenesse : and what concord hath Christ with Belial : and what agreement hath the temple of God with Idols : marke the Apostles gradation , first , What fellowship hath righteousnesse with unrighteousnesse : next , What communion hath light with darknesse : and la● , What concord hath Christ with Belial : no more agreement may we have who are the temples of the living God with Idols . Th●re is great opposition betweene righteousnesse and unrighteousnesse , greater betweene light and darkness ; greatest of all between Christ and Belial : righteousnesse and unrighteousnesse ( the one being a vertue and the other a vice ) are opposed contrarily , but light and darkenesse privatively , which is a greater opposition ; but Christ and Belial contradictorily which is the greatest of all : Righteousnesse and unrighteousnesse are so opposite that they cannot subsist in the same soule , and light and darknesse so opposite , that they cannot subsist in the same roome ; but Christ and Belial so opposite that they cannot subsist together in the same heaven . Righteousnesse fighteth with unrighteousnesse wheresoever it meeteth with it ; but light doth more , it presently banisheth darknesse ; but Christ yet more , he utterly confoundeth Belial : so true religion not onely fighteth with all heresie , and superstition wheresoever it meeteth with it ; but banisheth it , and in the end confoundeth it : Wherefore come out from among them and be ye separate saith the Lord , and touch not the uncleane thing and I will receive you , 2 Cor. 6.17 . Finis : Deo Laus Sine Fine . Notes, typically marginal, from the original text Notes for div A41019-e360 Encarid ad Lauren : miro & ineffabili modo non fit praeter Dei v●luntatem , quod etiam contra ejus voluntatem fit : ●uia nec fier●t nisi sineret , nec u●ique nolens sed vole●s , nec ●inere● bon●● f●●r● malè nisi omnip●t●ns etiam de malo f●c●re pos●●t b●n● . See page 64. Acts 25. ●5 . Ierom. ● . Epig. l. 1. ●cta gravi ferro ●●nfossaque vulne●● mater , S●● pariter vitam perdidit 〈◊〉 dedi● . Pluri●us illa mor● 〈◊〉 sa●cia tel●● , Omnibus ut natis ●●iste pateret iter . Plautus in Pseud. Aug. de haerasib . c. 70. habent Ebar verba juxta Poeta , Imur● perjura secretum pr●der● noli & lib. 1. Retract . cap. 60. Priscillianista ●aresin suam non s●lum negando a●que mentiendo verum ettam pejerando existimabant ●eculendam , & ibid. Visum est quibus●ā Cath●lic●s Priscillianistas se debere simulare , ut ●orum latebra● penetrarint . Ovid fast . lib. 3. Coede caput dixit , cui rex , parebimus inquit , Cadenda est h●rtis ●ruta ( cepa ) mei● : Addidit hi● hominis sumes , ait ●lle ( cap. 〈◊〉 ) pestulat hic animam cui . Num● ( ●isc●● ) ait risit & his inquit facit● me● t●la procures , ● vi● coll●qui● non ●big●nd● Deum . ●ee pag. ●3 ●eog . 1 〈◊〉 6. Vulpiza●● cum vulp●bus . Notes for div A41019-e3860 a Nay rather a Babylonish Marchant putting away a good conscience concerning faith making shipwrack● , 1 Tim. 1.19 . For this book with the title thereof resembleth the Apothecaries boxes , quorum tituli remediae habe●t , pyxides 〈◊〉 . Lactant. divin . institut . l. 3. c. 14. b According to that prudence which Saint Iames brandeth with those three marks ▪ Earthly , sensuall , and devillish Iam. 3.15 . c By Catholike , he meaneth a Papist , begging after their manner , that which is indeed the maine question between us , namely , whether Papists are Catholikes : For if he take Catholikes in that sense in which the word is used by the ancient Fathers , for a right beleever or Orthodox Christian in opposition to all heretikes and schismatikes ; neither are Romanists such Catholikes : and such Catholikes living within his Majesties Dominions , not only may but ought to come to our Protestant Churches ▪ and take the Oathes both of Allegiance and Supremacie , when they are legally tendered unto them . d If the author had not here rubd his forehead , hee would never have set this text in the frontispice of his book , for whether we translate the Greek word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 innocent or simple , in neither sense it befitteth either the person of the Author and his Associates , or the argument of his book . How innocent Papists are , it is sufficiently known to all the world by the Massacre at Paris , Powder plot in England , and the present Rebellion in Ireland . As for their simplicitie , let the Iesuits manifold Apologies of Equivocation speak , and this Priests Treatise in hand , wherein he endeavoureth through the whole to proove it to be lawfull to double in point of Gods worship , and juggle in matter of most sacred and solemne oathes . Notes for div A41019-e4150 e Rubet auditor eui frigida mens est ; criminibus tacitâ sūdant praecordia culpâ . It seemes the Authors heart smote him , and his cōscience misgave him , and his inke turned red , when he set his pen to paper to apologize for hollow hearted newtralitie , and halting betweene two religions . If we divide his Pamphlet into two parts , we shall finde the first part spent in proofe and justification of simulation , the second of dissimulation : in the former part he perswades the Papists of England to make shew of what they are not , by frequently resorting to our Church and Communion Table , in the second to deny what they are , by taking the two Oathes : wherein both the temporall and the spirituall power and jurisdiction of the Pope , within these kingdomes are renounced . f How the ensuing Treatise tendeth to the Safeguard of the bodies and estates of Papists , by declining the penalties of the laws , every intelligent Reader may perceive , but how this way of dissimulation tends to the safeguard of souls , I cannot understand , sith the Saviour of our souls , who is the Way , the Truth , Truth , and the Life , teacheth us in expresse words , Marke 8.35 . Whosoever will save his life shall loose it , but whosoever shall loose his life for my sake and the Gospel shall finde it . vers . 38. Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinfull generation , of him also shall the Sonne of man be ashamed , when he cometh in the glory of his Father , with his holy Angels , and Matth. 10.32 , 33. Whosoever shall confesse me before men , him will I confesse also before my Father which is in heaven : but whosoever shall deny me before men , him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven . But I subsume , to make profession of communion with misbeleevers or schismaticks , is not to confesse Christ , and to deny any part of our Christian Faith , with what art of words , or pretence of good intention soever , is upon the matter , to deny Christ , and to be ashamed of him and his Doctrine . g You may thanke Pope Pius his seditious Bull against Q. Elizabeth , wherein he not only excommunicateth her but exposeth her life and kingdome for a prey , and the treasonable practises of Iesuits and Iesuited Papists for the severitie of our laws , not indeed against your Religion , but rather irreligion and disloyaltie , medicum severum intemperans aeger fa●it . h Hoc verū est priusquam Theognis nasceretur ; This is an extreame veritie as the French speake , that it is not necessary to confesse a mans Religion without necessitie , as if he should say , it is not profitable for a man to drive a a Trade without profit , or not pleasant to recreate himselfe without pleasure , or not wholsome to take Physicke , which conduceth not to his health . But if this were in him l●psus linguae or calami . I am sure his inference hereupon , is deliquium mentis , and argues a defect in his rationall facultie : for at this issue he drives , because it is not necessary at all times and in all places to confesse Religion , ( no more then to goe out into the Market place and cry I am a Romane Catholike , or to write upon the frontispice of his house here lyeth a Papist , ) that therefore a man may sometimes make an outward profession of a contrary Religion , by joyning with them publikely in their Service and Sacraments . If he had staid longer at schoole he would have perfectly learned ( which he fumbleth at ) this lesson from the Schoole Divines , ( which looseneth the sinews of this his argument ) that affirmative preceptes , obligant semper , sed non ad semper , but negative , semper & ad semper . A man is not bound alwayes to exhibit cultum latriae , to God by adoration , or prayer , but he is bound never to exhibite Divine worship to a creature : he is not bound alwayes to offer unto God , or to give to the Church ; but he is bound never sacrilegiously to take away from God or his Church : in like manner , he is not bound at all times , and in all places to professe his faith , but he is alwayes bound , not to denie his Faith and Religion , either by word or deed . A man is not bound alwayes to speake a truth , but he is bound never to lie , feigne , or play the hypocrite . i See the Advertisement to the Reader . The Apostle saith , Godlinesse is great gain ; if a man be contented with what he hath : but by the confession of this Priest , gaine is the Iesuits godlinesse ; the zeale of Gods house eats not them up , but their zeale devoureth the houses of the welthiest Recusants in England . What care they though Recusants sinke in England , so long as they swim in abundance beyond the Sea ? what thought take they for the parents mulcts and taxes by the state , so long as their Pupils scores are paid in their Colleges ? k If seven Popes one after another swallowed the same State gudgeons , and after the swallowing of them sub annulo piscatoris , sent rescripts into England forbidding all Catholikes under paine of mortall sinne , to repaire to Protestant Churches , which this Authour acknowledgeth to be an errour in those Popes , what becomes of the infallible assistance of the holy Spirit annexed to Peters chaire ? if so many Popes might be deceived by false suggestions , why not by false arguments , and objections ? if they may be deceived in matter of fact , why not in matter of faith , which often dependeth upon matter of fact ? and there being more need of inerrabilitie in a visible head for matter of fact , then matter of faith , the later so far as it is necessary to salvation being plainely set downe in Scripture . If they may be deceived as men , why not as Popes ? surely if the Pope doe any thing as Pope ▪ it is sending forth his Buls and Rescripts , whereby he governeth and instructeth the Pseudo-Catholike Church , and decides cases of conscience ; and if in such he be subject to errour and mistaking , even in a matter of as great weight as any was agitated in the Councell of Trent , as this Priest affirmeth , pag. 7. upon what a sandie foundation is the Romish Babell built ? and how loose and weake is the maine ground of a Papists faith ? l It cannot be the common opinion of Divines that it is lawfull for a man to goe to Church and communicate with those who are of a different Religion . For seven Popes alleadged by him , two Cardinals , Bellarmine and Baronius , twelve Fathers of the Councell of Trent , R. P. and other Iesuits for the Roman partie , and of the Protestant beliefe , George Abbot Archbishop of Canterburie , in his Lectures at Oxford , Calvine in his tract adversus Pseudo-Nicodemitas , and the Doctors of the reformed Churches generally in their expositions upon the second Commandement , and in their commentaries upon the second of the Corinthians 6. Chapter , 15 , 16 , 17. ver . determine the contrary . m No infallibilitie in any generall Councel since the dayes of the Apostles , much lesse in the Councel of Trent , which was neither a generall Councel , nor lawfully called , nor free , nor at all an assembly of Catholike Bishops , but of Images , moved like the statues of Dedalus by the sinewes of others . See the historie of the Councel of Trent written in Italian by Petro Soave Polano , and the Epistle Dudith quinque Eccles. ad Maximilianum , 2. Caes. But were the Councel of Trent a generall Councel lawfully called , consisting of eminent Doctors and Pastours as it were starres of the first magnitude , yet they could not without horrible presumption arrogate to that their Synod infallibilitie : for that not onely Provinciall but even oecumenicall Councels may erre , and be fouly mistaken , and that in matter of faith may thus be demonstrated . First , every assemby which consisteth of members subject to errour may be seduced , and deceived , but generall Councels are assemblies consisting of members subject to errour ; for all men are so , Rom. 3.4 . Therefore generall Councels may be seduced and deceived . This reason is strongly backed by the authoritie of the most judicious of all the Fathers , Saint Augustine and that in many places , namely , Ep. 112. c. 1. Si Divinarum scripturarum , earum scilicet quae canonicae in Ecclesia nominantur , perspicua firmatur autoritate , sine ulla Dub. tation● credendum est : ali●s vero testibus vel testimonies quibus aliquid credendum esse suadetur tibi credere vel non credere liceat ; quantum ea momenti ad faciendam fidem vel habere vel non habere perpenderis : If any thing be confirmed by cleare and evident authoritie of Canonicall Scripture that must be beleeeved without all doubting : but for other witnesses and testimonies whereby ye are perswaded to beleeve any thing you may give credit unto them , or not , as you see cause : & de natura et grat . cont . Pelag. c. 61. solis canonicis debeo sine ulla recusatione consensum . In the writing of any such men I hold my selfe at libertie ( namely to give my assent unto them or not ) for I owe consent without any stay or staggering to the Canonicall Scriptures alone : therefore not to the Popes Rescripts , or Decrees of generall Councels . And in his second booke , De bapt ▪ cont . Donat. c. 3. Quis nesciat scripturam canonicam omnibus posterioribus Episcoporum literis ita praeponi ; ut de illa omnino dubitari et disceptari non possit utrum vel verum rectum sit quicquid in eâ scriptum esse constiterit . Episcoporum autem literas quae post confirmatum canonem vel scriptae sunt , vel scribuntur , et per sermonem fortè sapientiorem cuiuslibet in ea re peritioris et per aliorum Episcoporum graviorem authoritatem , doctioremque prudentiam et per concilia licere reprehendi , si quid in eis fortè a veritate deviatum est . Et ipsa concilia quae per singulas regiones vel provincias fiunt , plenariorum conciliorum authoritati , quae fiunt ex universo orbe christiano , sine ullis ambagibus cedere : ipsaque plenaria saepe priora posterioribus emendari , cum aliquo experimento rerum aperitur quod clausum erat , et cognoscitur quod latebat . Who knowes not that the canonicall Scriptures are so farre to be preferred above the latterr letters of Bishops , that whatsoever is found written in it may neither be doubted nor disputed of whether it be true or right : but the letters of Bishops may not only be disputed of , but censured by Bishops that are more wise and learned then they , if any thing in their writings swerve from the truth : or by Provinciall Synods , and these also must give place to plenarie and generall Councels , and even plenarie and generall Councels may be amended , the former by the latter , and it is to be noted that he speaketh of errour in matter of faith . For these words are part of his answer to an Objection of the Donatists out of the letters of Saint Cyprian , concerning the point of rebaptizing . Secondly , If the determinations of generall Councels were infallible , all Christians were necessarily bound to stand unto them , and to submit to their authoritie : but this Saint Augustine peremptorily denies , l. 3. Cont. Maxim. c. 14. Nec ego Nicenum nec tu debes Ariminense , tanquam preiudicaturus , proferre concilium ; nec ego huius authoritate nec tu illius detineris . Neither ought I to alleadge the Councel of Nice , nor thou the Councel of Ariminum in prejudice to either part . For neither am I bound to the authoritie of the one , nor thou to the authoritie of the other ; and it is worth the observation that Saint Augustine speaketh of the first most famous Councel of Nice , whose authoritie was greater and held more sacred and venerable then any Councel since , and if that Councel concluded not Saint Augustine , shall the authoritie of a late Conveticle at Trent conclude all Christians ? Thirdly , If generall Councels may contradict one the other , they may certainly erre . For it is impossible that both parts of a contradiction should be true . But generall Councels contradict one the other . Ergo. For the Councel held at Ariminum contradicteth the first generall Councel held at Nice in the point of consubstantialitie of the Sonne with the Father . The generall Councel held at Chalcedon , contradicteth the generall Councel held at Ephesus in the point of Eutychianisme . The generall Councel at Frankeford , contradicteth your second generall Councel held at Nice in the point of Image worship . Your generall Councel held at Lateran under Leo the tenth , contradicteth your Councel of Constance in the point of the Councels superioritie above the Pope . Fourthly , Cuivis contingere potest quod cuiquam potest , that which hath befallen some generall Councels , may befall any other , unlesse they can alleadge some speciall priviledge to the contrary ; but divers generall Councels have erred . A generall Councel of Prophets , 1 Kings 22.12 . erred , saying , The Lord shall deliver Ramoth Gilead into the Kings hand ; a generall Councel of Priests , Matthew 26.65 . erred damnably in condemning Christ for a blasphemer guiltie of death . The generall Councel held at Arminum erred , denying the Sonnes equalitie with the Father , at Ephesus , confounding the two natures in Christ : at Nice under Irene , decreeing that Angels are to be painted , because they are of a corporeall nature : at Constance , denying the Laitie to be bound to receive the communion in both kindes against the expresse precept of Christ , Matth. 26.28 . and Iohn 6.53 . And of the Apostle , 1 Cor. 11.28 . At Florence , and after at Trent , defining that the effect of the Sacrament depends upon the intention of the Priest or Bishop , who administreth it . Which if it were true , no man in the Roman Church could ever be assured either of his baptisme , or of his confirmation , or of his absolution , or of his ordination , or of the validitie of his matrimonie , or of his safe adoration of the Host , or of the vertue of his extreme unction . For how can he certainly know the intention of the Bishop or Priest who administred unto him these rites , all which they account sacraments ? Neither can they evade by saying that these Councels might erre because they were not confirmed by the Pope ; for the Popes were present at all these later , either in person or by their Legates , and it is for certain that their second Councel at Nice , was confirmed by Pope Adrian ; at Constance by Pope Martine , at Florence by Pope Eugenius , at Trent by divers Popes . Lastly , if Councels had an immunitie from error , the prayer which they made at their Councels registred by Gregory the Great , l. 7. Epist. were a meere mockerie . The prayer was conceived in this forme : Quia conscientià remordente tabescimus ne aut ignorattia nos traxerit in errorem aut praeceps forsitan voluntas impulerit a iustitia declinare , ob hoc te poscimus , te rogamus ut si quid offensionis in hac concilii celebritate attraximus , condonare et remissibile facere digneris . Because we pine away through remorse of conscience , fearing lest either ignorance have drawn us into error , or a headie will driven us to swerve from justice , for this we pray thee , we beseech thee that if we have done any thing amisse in this great and famous assembly , thou wouldest vouchsafe to pardon it . I conclude therefore with the words of Leo in his Epistle to Anatolius , who lightly phillips off the authoritie of the generall Councel held at Ephesus , in which there were above 600. Fathers . In one word , Tanquam refutari nequeat , quod illicitè voluerit multitudo . as if that could not be refuted which a multitude hath unlawfully determined ; giving withall most wholesome conusell to all Councels , nulla sibi de multiplicitate congregationis concilia blandiantur . Let no Councels flatter themselves with the great multitude of persons assembled in them , as if that might priviledge them from errour . Notes for div A41019-e6110 n Here least the Reader should before he be aware ; be bitten by a snake lying under the grasse , I hold it necessary to distinguish between two questions , which may seem to be a like , but indeed are very different . The first , whether Papists may goe to Protestant Churches . The second , whether a Protestant may goe to a Popish Church . He that shall give the same solution to both these questions , shall give a greater wound to the Protestant cause , in the latter , then his plaister will salve in the former . The Protestants and Papists in this stand not upon even tearmes : for there is nothing in the Protestant Liturgie or Service , which the Romanists doe , or by their own Rules can except at ; The Confession , forme of Absolution , Prayers , Hymnes , Collects , Lessons , Epistles and Gospels , are either such as the Papists themselves use , or at least such as they dislike not ; whereas it is farre otherwise in the Romane Missall . For there is sprinkling , exorcised water , censing books , and pictures , worshipping images , invocation of Saints , prayers for the dead , intercession by the prayers and merits of souls departed , and which is the height of all idolatry adoration of their Host or breaden God , and all this service performed in an unknowne tongue contrary to the expresse order of the Apostle , 1 Cor. 14. all which the Reformed Churches condemne and abhorre , and whereas this Author alleadgeth , there can be no text of Scripture brought , forbidding Papists to come to our Church : I beleeve him , but on the other side there are many expresse Texts of holy Scripture from whence it may be strongly inferred , that no Protestant whose conscience is convinced of the manifold idolatries and superstitions , wherewith the Romish Liturgie is polluted , can with a safe conscience goe to Masse , as namely , Psal. 26.4 . I have not sate with vaine persons , neither will I goe in with dissemblers , I have hated the congregation of evill doers , and will not sit with the wicked , 1 Cor. 10.7 . Neither be ye idolaters as were some of them , vers . 14. Wherefore my dearely beloved flee from idolatrie , 1 Ioh. 5.21 . Keepe your selves from idols , 2. Cor. 6.14 . What fellowship hath righteousnesse with unrighteousnesse , or what communion hath light with darknesse , vers . 16 What agreement hath the Temple of God with idols ? vers . 17. Wherefore come out from among them and be ye separate , saith the Lord , and touch not the uncleane thing , and I will receive you . o Although I have no meaning to drive away Papists from our Churches , nor purpose to enervate the kindly , and right arguments which this Priest bringeth to perswade them thereunto : yet I cannot let passe this , wherwith true Professours may be very much scandalized . For what religious heart doth not tremble to thinke of going in , and bowing in the temple of an ●doll , in which as the ( Apostle teacheth ) the service that is done , and the sacrifice that is offered , is to devils , 1 Cor. 10.20 . and no better was this Rimmon the Syrian idoll . I answer therefore ( 1 ) that the case of conscience Naaman put , was not whether he might goe with his Master into the house of Rimm●n , and offer sacrifice with him unto the idoll : but whether he might not waite upon his Master thither , and performe a civill ( for the bowing spoken of was as C●i●tan well noteth , genuflexio obsequii , non imitativa , a bowing to the King not to the Idoll ) o●●ice to him or make an obeysance , whilest the King leaned on his hand : and yet his heart smote him for this , and his conscience misgave him , that the Lord would be displeased with him for it : for so much his prayer importeth . The Lord pardon thy servant in this thing . Secondly , the words of the Prophet Elisha ; Goe in peace , doe not necessarily import an approbation , or permission of that which Naaman pro●ounded : but either a meere forme of valediction , as if he had said in our language adiew , or farewell . 3. Or the meaning of them may be , that which Trem●lius and Iunius , by comparing this text . 2 Kings 5.19 . with the 1 Samuel 1.17 . collect , Quieto anim● esto & ne sis sollicitus de istis rebus quae nihil ad pacem conscientiae tuae faciunt , sed potius ill●m turbaturae sint , & Deum in te provocaturae , Be at peace , and take no thought of these things , which will nothing conduct to the peace of thy conscience , but rather trouble it and provoke the wrath of God against thee : 〈◊〉 fourthly , the words may carry this sense , now thou ha●t that thou ●●●nest for , thou art cleansed of thy l●prosie , Goe home in peace , God send thee a prosperous journey for the thing thou w●ttest of , shall never 〈◊〉 thee , for thy Master shall never requi●e any such service of thee as to wait on him to his Chappell to worship Rimmon . And fifthly , what if there be an ●nallage temporis very usuall , in the Hebrew . A●l mists of obscuritie be taken away , if we translate the words thus , The Lord be mercifull to thy servant , for that when my Master went into the house of Rimmon and leaned on my hand , I bowe● my selfe in the house of Rimmon . Howsoever the Prophets valediction , Goe ●n peace , no more prooveth any approbation of Naamans bowing in the house of Rimmon , then of his other demand , vers . 17. namely , Of two Mules load of the earth of the land of Israel , and whatsoever Naamans conceit was in i● , whether he imagined there were any holinesse or vertue in that earth , as the inhabitants of Colubraria ( as Pomponius Mela writeth ) beleeved , that the earth of the neighbour Island Ebusitana , was a sovereigne remedie against those serpents wherewith they were infested , or whether he meant to make an altar of that earth , it is not likely the Prophet would incourage him by his approbation , to load his Mules with that earth , the former reason being superstitious , the latter unwarrantable , for they were to sacrifice only in the place which the Lord God should appoint , and if the Prophets words carry no approbation , but have some other meaning , the edge of the Priests argument for assistance at Idol worship is quite dulled . p So indeed Hurtado de Mendoza and others by him cited . But as the Scriptures saith of Nabal , a foole is his name , and folly is in him ; so we may truely say here , that Mendoza is Mendosus , and Mendax too , both faultie , and false ; for Christ who is the truth himselfe teacheth us , that our life is better lost to save it , then saved to losse : Matth. 16.25 . he saveth it to losse , who saveth it by denying his Saviour , and he looseth it to his advantage , who looseth it for the testimonie of the Gospell , for he shall exchange the losse of a miserable temporall life , with blessed immortalitie or immortall blisse . If men when they are in danger of death may dissemble their Religion , what shall become of the glory of Confessours , and crowne of Martyrs . At such a time to use the habit and ceremonies of a false law ( saie of Mahomets , or the Persians , or the Brachmans , or the West Indians ; who do all their devotions professedly to the Devill himselfe , whom they take to be God ) is it not to deny Christ in our habit , and in our actions , though not in our words and professions ? q Surely the Roman Catholiques in England must needs be thought to suffer grievous persecution , when as the authour of the answer to the libell of justice cited by this Priest , pag. 9. and 10. so much delighteth in it that he would not have a toleration of Catholikes in England if he might , and to aske it of God ( saith he ) were to aske we know not what , for that persecution is better . O medicina gravis ! The truth is , the little finger of Queene Mary was heavier against Protestants then Queene Elizabeth her whole loynes against Popish Recusants . Neither in her reigne , no● in the reigne of King Iames , nor of our present Sovereigne , was any Papist put to death meerely for his conscience : but either for some treasonable p●actise , or violation of some Statute Law , the penaltie whereof is Death . See pag. 4. G. r The distinction of veniall and mortall sinnes Tostatus ( learned in Peter Lumbards schoole , not in Christs ) may teach , but not truely . For although some sinnes may be tearmed veniall comparatè , in respect of others that are of a deeper die , and so lesse in their owne nature pardonable and excuseable : or not at all ( as the sinne against the holy Ghost : and though all sinnes of the ●le●t are veniall through grace , or quo ad eventum : yet there are no sinnes which in their owne nature are not mortall . For all sinnes are transgressions of the eternall law , and in them the infinite Majestie of God is some waies slig●ted : and therefore Saint Hieromes generall conclusion is true , ep . ad Celantiam , omne quod agimus , omne quod loquimur , aut de angustâ viâ est , quae tendit ad vitam , aut de latâ quâ imus ad mortem : What soever we do , whatsoever we speake , either appertaines to the narrow Way wh●reby we enter into life , or to the broad way which is the roade to death : and in his second booke against the Pelagians , si ira et sermonis iniuria atque interdum iocus iudicio concilioque et gehennae ignibus delegatur , quid merebitur turpium rerum appetitio ? if unadvised anger and a contumelious word bring us in danger of a iudgement , and a councel , and hell fire : what shall the desire of filthy things deserve ? and who can say his heart is cleane from all these ? To make light of sinne aggravateth our conscience , even those Naevuli & leves aspergines , & pulviseuli , & prolapsiunculae , & peccadili●es , ( as the Romanis●s stile veniall sinnes ) either are transgressions of the law of God or not : if they are not transgressions of the law , they are no sinnes at all : for 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , all sinne is the transgression of the law , 1 Iohn 3.4 . or as the Schooles ●ut of Saint Augustine define , peccatum est dictum , factum vel concupitum contra legem aeternam , every sinne is a desire , word or deed against the eternall law : and if veniall sinnes be transgressions of this law , their punishment is death . For the soule that sinneth shall die , Ezech. 18.4 . and the sting of death is sinne , 1 Cor. 15.56 . and the wages of sinne is death , Rom. 6.23 . These cleare and evident Texts of holy Sc●ipture so dazled the eyes of three of their sharpe sighted Schoolemen , that they not onely left the common tract of other popish Divines ( as Bellarmine minceth the matter , l. 1. de amiss . grat . et stat . pec . c. 4. ( non nihil a communi theologorum sententiâ deflexerunt ) but went in the direct way of the reformed Doctours : these Schoole men are Gerson 3. part . Theolog. tract . de vit . spirit . sect . 1ª Iacobus Almaine Opusc. tract . 3. c. 20. & Iohannes Episcopus Roffensis in refut . 32. artic . Luth. Gersons words are ( with whom Almaine accords ) peccatū mortale et veniale in esse tali non distinguuntur intrinsecè et essentialiter sed solum per respectum ad divinam gratiam quae peccatum istud imputat : mortall and veniall sinnes are not distinguished in their intrinsicall essence , but onely with a relation to the divine grace which imputes the sinne , &c. Roffenfis speaketh to the same purpose , peccatum veniale solum ex Dei misericordia veniale est : veniall sinne is onely veniall by the meere mercy of God : not therefore in its owne nature . s He meaneth by counsels , according to the doctrine of his Romish Church , such supposed good workes as are not commanded of God , by the performance whereof yet they beleeve that they cannot onely merit at Gods hands , but supererogate . An assertion , as farre from Theologicall truth , as Christian modestie . For first , the law of God is perfect , Psal. 19.7 . and consequently commandeth all good , and forbiddeth all evill : else were it not a perfect but a scantive and defective rule of good . Secondly , though there may be many good workes which the law of God commandeth not , to all persons , at all times , and in all places , in every manner and measure ; yet neither is there any good worke nor can be , which is not comprised within that great and large Commandement of loving the Lord with all our heart , and all our soule , and all our might : Deut. 6.5 . Matth. 22.37 . Luk. 10.27 . For it implyes a contradiction , to say that we can love God more then with all our might , and strength , and we see that all is required by this commandement . Thirdly , the aspiring to perfection it selfe , so farre as it is attainable by us in this life , falleth under the expresse commandement of our Saviour , Matth. 5.48 . Be ye therefore perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect . How can there be any counsels of perfection over and above the law , when the law of Christ requireth perfection it selfe ? What good worke is there or can there be tending to Christian perfection , which Saint Pauls Whatsoever carrieth not , Phil. 4.8 . Finally brethren , whatsoever things are true , whatsoever things are honest , whatsosoever things are iust , whatsoever things are pure , whatsoever things are lovely , whatsoever things are of good report : if there be any vertue , if there be any praise , thinke on these things . Fourthly , dato et non concesso , admitting for arguments sake , that in some one particular or other , that a man might do more then God commands : yet in other things the best man that is , comes short of the law . For in many things we offend all , Iames 4.2 . and even such a righteous man as Iob was cannot answer one of a thousand , Iob 9.3 . What then becomes of works of supererogation , when a mans stock or treasure of good workes cannot hold out to pay his own debts ? Fifthly , though we strive to the uttermost to walke exactly before God , and abstaine from all knowne sinnes , so farre as humane frailtie permits in this life , and fulfill all righteousnesse in doing all the commandements of God with all our might : may we then superarrogate any thing to our selves , or supererogate to others ? No our Saviour teacheth us a contrarie lesson , When you shall have done all these things which are commanded you , say we are unprofitable servants , for we have done that which was our dutie to doe , Luk. 17.10 . We are unprofitable servants , therefore not deserving of our Master , and we doe but that which is our dutie to doe , and therefore not more then we are bound to doe . t He fouly mistaketh the matter , it was no scandall to Christ to bee poore that hee might make us rich , no more then to be abased , to exalt us ; to bee stript , to cloth us ; to take the forme of a servant , to make us free ; to be condemned , to acquit us ; to be in an agonie , to comfort us ; and to die , to restore us to life . The viler he became for our sakes , the more highly ought we to esteeme of him . Neither did Christ goe any way about to conceale his povertie , nay he openly proclaimed it : The foxes have holes , and fowles of heaven neasts , but the Sonne of man hath not where to lay his head , Matth. 8.20 . But the cause why at that time being destitute of money , he wrought a miracle , was ( as the text saith ) Matth. 17.27 . That he might not offend them , who questioned him about tribute , by not paying it . For though he was free , yet the Iewes not taking notice of that freedome , in probabilitie would have inferred from his not paying , that he had denyed that tribute ought to be paid to Caesar , and consequently had denyed Caesars authority & soverainty . See Luk. 20.20 . But if povertie be scandalous , why do the Fryars by a vow of perfection , as they terme it , undertake this scandalous povertie ? u I answer that the Masse being rightly understood our Liturgy ought not to bee called a piece of the Masse . For though there are some passages alike in both : yet they tend not to the same end , nor are retained upon the same ground . Every part of any thing hath a reference to the whole , and consequently every part of the Romish service to their Masse , as a preparatory or an appertenance , or immediate part thereof ; whereas no part of our service tendeth at all to that end , nay we are so farre from intending the sacrifice of the Masse in our service , that we disclaime and abominate it and hold it no better then a Masse of superstitions and contradictions ; superstitions in the manner , and contradictions in the matter thereof . For they teach it to be a sacrifice properly so called , yet nothing therein is properly sacrificed : not the bread and wine : for they are transubstantiated before the sacrifice ; not Christs body , for no living thing can properly be sacrificed , unlesse it be slaine , but Christ as the Apostle teacheth us , being once dead dieth no more . Secondly , they teach it , to be an externall and sensible sacrifice , and yet Christ there appeareth to no sense ; but is as they teach , couched and concealed under the accidents of bread and wine . Thirdly , they teach that it is an unbloody sacrifice , and yet Christs blood is there truely and really shed and drunke by the communicants with the mouth . Fourthly , that it is a perfect and all-sufficient sacrifice , and yet they repeat it and reiterate it daily . Fifthly , Christs body is there with his humane dimensions , and yet is whole in the whole and whole in every smallest part and point of the Host. Secondly , I say , that Christ indeed forbids us to cast pearle before swine , but no where to take a pearle though out of a swines snout , if we finde any such there . Thirdly , I answer , that it cannot be prooved that any part or parcell of our Service booke , was originally taken out of the Mas●e . For though there are some of the same Co●lects and Prayers in it , yet they ought not to be said to be taken out of Missals as their originall Fountaine , sith the most of them if not all might be gathered out of more ancient Liturgies . For which . See Biblioth Patru to 1. And if it be so , then it may be said ; That the mud of Popery fell into them , but they sprang not from Popery , but from purer fountains . * It hath been I confesse , a long custome in the Latine Church , ever since Pope Vitalian to celebrate the Church Service in the Latine tongue , but it was never the custome of the Catholique or Vniversall so to doe . The Greeke and Syrian , and African , and other Churches had from the beginning , and have at this day their Service in their own languages . Neither is the reason the Priest alleadgeth here of any force , namely , That w as the Catholike Religion is universall , so it should be exercised in an universall language which he will have to be the Latine . For first there is no necessitie that the Catholike Religion which is universall should be exercised in an universall language , but rather in all languages . Secondly , since the division of tongues at the tower of Babell , there was no language universall in all the world , the Greeke was for a time the furthest spread , and after the Romane : but neither of them , nor any other , was spoken or understood by all Christians , and at this day if we may beleeve travellers , no language is so generally knowne and spoken as the Slavonian . Thirdly , the unity of language maketh nothing to the unitie of Religion or the Church , neither doth the Apostle require that the Divine Service be performed in any one tongue , but that it be done in a knowne tongue , to the edification of the Church , 1 Cor. 14.4.12.14.16 . And to that end , among others , was the gift of tongues given . x See page 28. Letterr. y See the lettero. pag. 17. z See the letter R pag. 28. a This definition of an heretique is both defective & redundant : defective , for every obstinate deniall of an article of faith makes not an heretique , unlesse his conscience be clearely convinced of his errour out of the word of God , it is redundant also , for a man may be an heretique by denying any article of faith , though that article be not proposed to him by the Catholike Church to be beleeved ; though but his pastour , or any other , religious Christian out of Gods word clearely propound it to him and prove , it or it be read by himselfe in the Scripture : if he obstinately persist in the denyall thereof after his conscience is convinced , he becomes an heretique . b The Protestants of England know other Churches besides their own , and some have learnedly discoursed of all the Churches in the Christian world , as Purchas , Brierwood , Mocket , Mr. Paget , and others : 〈◊〉 true it is , they acknowledge no infallibilitie in the Roman or any particular Church , nor receive any Church for true and Orthodoxe , which consenteth not with them in all points of faith either expresly set downe , or by cleare and necessarie consequence deduced from holy Scriptures . c The Protestants hold nothing contrary to the Catholique Church , though they hold many things contrary to the present Romane Church , which is neither the Catholike Church , nor a sound member thereof , as is proved invincibly by Iohn Reynolds praefat . thesium , Sect. 12. & Thes. ss . 27. & Apol. 5.23 . And Bilsons answer to Cardinall Allen , part . 4. And Abbot against Bishop , in a Treatise intituled The true ancient Romane Catholike , to which none answer hath yet beene given , nor sufficient can be . d With what face can he say that the Protestants are incredulous and beleeve not the truth ? Who entirely beleeve the whole doctrine of the Scriptures , together with the three Creeds ; that which beares the name of the Apostles , the Nicene , and that of Athanasius , together with the foure first generall Councels ; in which time the Church most flourished : as also the joynt Doctrine and unanimous consent of all the Fathers both of the Greeke and Latine Church for five hundred yeeres after Christ our Lord came into the flesh . Let this traducer of the reformed Churches answer punctually , whether he beleeveth that the learned Doctors , Confessours , and Martyrs who lived and died within the first 500. yeeres , held the entire Catholique faith necessary to salvation or no ? If they held it not , how were they saved , upon what good ground or warrant are so many of them canonized for Saints even by the Roman Church ? but on the other side , if they beleeved all things necessary to salvation , how can we be esteemed incredulous , or defective in our faith , who beleeveth all that can be proved to have beene joyntly beleeved , and unanimously professed by them . e Is this the holy Romane Religion , to make a May-game of Religion ? and to goe to Sermons as to a play to make themselves merry , and dispell a Melancholly dumpe ? Besides their owne third commandement enjoynes them to keepe Holy-dayes , and their owne Casuists allow the Lords day to be a day that is holy . And is this a piece of holynesse to goe on such dayes to a play ? yet neither doe I beleeve that he can readily name the man , much lesse many men that spake fustian with gravity in our Pulpits , but I am sure he who patched up this Safeguard out of rags of Religion and falshood speaks Linsewoolsey through his whole Discourse , and contrary to the law ploweth with an Oxe and an Asse . The later of which here brayeth irrationally and unjustly against the generalitie of Protestant Preachers and Sermons . Forsooth , we are silly weake and ignorant men , but they are all profound Gamaliels , nay Angelicall and Seraphicall Doctors . Whereunto I answer , as Saint Paul did to the calumnies of the false Apostles , 2 Cor. 10.12 . We dare not make our selves of the number to compare our selves with them that commend themselves , but they measuring themselves by themselves , and comparing themselves amongst themselves understand not . The Catholiques he saith , are Hounds ( ●lood Hounds I grant ) and our Ministers timorous Hares , they dare not encounter the weakest Romane Catholique , they neither understand the controversies of Religion , nor dare meddle with any in their Sermons . If this were true which all our hearers know to be most false : yet me thinks Iuv●nal speaks very good reason , Loripedem rectus derideat , Aethiopem albus . And what great Clarks ( I pray ) were those of whom Boniface Bishop of 〈◊〉 ●p●ke in his time ; heretofore we had woodden Chalices and golden Priests , ●ut now we have golden Chalices and woodden Priests ; what great Gamaliels were they of whom Bonaventure complaines ; Quidam sacerdotum , ●lavem habent ( he speaketh of the Key of knowledge ) quidam claviculam quidam nullam ; what was he upon whom Sir Thomas Moore thus playes in his ●pigr●m , tu bene cavisti ne te ulla occidere possit litera , nam nulla est l●tera nota tibi : Be not frighted at the words of the Apostle the letter killeth , thou hast taken good order that it shall not kill thee , for thou knowest not a lett●● . What was he of whom Poggius writeth , that after he had said Masse , bidding the Feast of Epiphanie , he spake to the honest rusticks on this wise ; My good neighbours , to morrow you are to keepe good cheere and celebrate a high feast , the feast of Saint Epiphanie , a most holy wight , but whether Epiphanie were male or female , a he Saint or a she Saint , I finde it not in my books . What was he that Christened a childe with this forme of words : Ego baptizo te in nomine Patria , Filia , & Spiritua Sancta What was he , who reading in the Gospel of Saint Iohn , invenimus Messiam , lept out of his skin for joy , saying , Now to the confusion of all Hugonots , I have found the Masse in the new Testament . What was he , who reading in the Epistle , Melchisedec Rex Salem panem & vinum protulit , translated it thus ; King Melchisedec brought forth salt , bread and wine . What was he , who in a dispute about putting hereticks to death , most Clarke like prooved his conclusion , that hereticks ought to suffer death , because the Apostle saith ; Hereticum post unam aut alteram admoni●ionem devita . 1 Titus 3.10 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , that is , shun or avoyd but this silly animal mistooke the ver●e devita , for a proposition and a nowne , as if the Apostle had said ; de vitá , out of life with him . Neither doth Pope Siricius better argue against P●iests marriage . Men in holy Orders must not contract Matrimonie , because the Apostle saith , They that are in the flesh cannot please God ; neither Innocentius against Lay-mens reading Scripture : The beast that touched the Mount , was to be thrust thorow with a dart . Ergo. The people must not meddle with the Scripture . As for their manner of preaching ▪ who so much scorne and deride ours , let all travellers speake , whether it be not thus . A Parish Priest , or some Monk or Frier , gets up into a spacious Pulpit , and there runs himselfe out of breath , from one side to the other ; before his houre glasse be halfe run , of whom a man might well demand , as some one did in Tully of a declaimer . Quot millia pass●um declamasti ? When this shaveling betweene whose head and heaven , there is not a haire first appeares to the people , he crosses himselfe ( as their manner is , when they are affraid of evill spirits ) then reads the Gospel of the day in Latine , whereof the people understand not a word : and after he hath spent some time in translating it , and scored out his way , he conveighes a prayer into a parenthesis , concluding it with an Ave Maria. After this , resuming the words of his Text , in the handling of them , he robs and deplumes the late written pos●ils upon that ●ospell , and like the Crow in the Poet Cloathes his Discourse with the choicest of their feathers , in the end sticks two or three gaudy feathers out of the Peacock● taile : I meane the golden Legend , telling them how St. Domin●ck spying the Devill sitting in the Church like a Sparrow , called him to him , pluckt off all his feathers , and put him to a great reproach : or how St. Dunstane tooke the Devill by the nose with a paire of tongs fire hot : Or how St. Bernard●lest ●lest good Ale , and giving the same to certaine lewd persons , caused divine grace to enter into them . And here if the Author and his Consorts please to be merry at Sermons , spectatum admissi risum teneatis amici : But if any more ingenuous Papists like Lodovicus Vives , condemne the Author of your golden Legend , for a man of a brazen face , and leaden heart , and bring better stuffe ; yet even these come farre short of the Preachers of the Reformed Churches , in many remarkable particulars . First , all the Popish Preachers take their text out of the Gospel or ●pistle of the Day : but the Protestants confine themselves not to those parcels of Scripture , but make choice as God shall direct them , for the most profit of their flocke ; of any part of the Canonicall Scripture to expound it . Againe , the Protestant Preachers in their translation follow the originals , the Greeke and Hebrew : the Papists as they are bound under paine of a curse , follow the corrupt vulgar Latine , which they may not upon any pretence reject . The Protestants deliver no Doctrine of faith , for which they bring not Gods word . The Papists ground many of their Doctrines upon unwritten Traditions or Decrees of Popes , or Councels . The Protestants build upon the true foundation , gold , silver , and precious stones , that is ▪ heavenly , solid and precious Doctrine , conformable to holy Scriptures . The Papists hay and stubble , as namely , the putting Thrones and Dominations , with Archangels , Angels , Cherubins and Seraphins , in ranke and file ; a Geographical● description of foure Regions under the earth , Hell , Purgatory , Limbus Patrum , and Limbus Infantum ; an imaginary treasury of super-abundant satisfactions to be dispenced by the Pope , hallowing of Water , Salt , Creame , &c. Christening Bels , Singing Dirges , and Trentals , Pilgrimages , Whippings , Masses , without Communicants , dry Communions , censing Pictures , Invocation of Saints , worshipping of Images , with Reliques , and such like trash . f De te fabula narratur , unlesse you can substantially refute Vigniers his Theater of Popes , or Plessis his Historia Papatus , or Abbot , & Down . and Powell , and infinite others accurate and elaborate Treatises , De Antichristo , you must aske blessing of the whore of Babylon as your mother . g Will you call it the same wine which was powred out into two cups , whereof one hath store of rats-bane in it ? See pag. 16. letter ● . and pag. 33. letter u h There was never such a prophane gamster heard of as this Masse-Priest , who playeth not only with the word of God , and prayers , but with Sacraments here , and most solemne oathes hereafter ? what horrible prophannesse , what detestable hypocrisie is it ? I will not say for a Lay Papist , but a Romish Priest , not only to be at our Service , but to stay at the Communion , to heare the Ministers exhortation out of the Apostle , to all persons that come to the holy Table , Diligently to try and examine themselves , before they presume to eate of that bread , and drinke of that cup : for as the benefit is great , if with a true penitent heart and lively faith , we receive that holy Sacrament ( for then we spiritually eate the flesh of Christ , and drinke his blood ; then we dwell in Christ , and Christ in us ; we be one with Christ and Christ with us ) so is the danger great , if we receive the same unworthily ; for then we be guiltie of the body and blood of Christ our Saviour , we eat and drinke our own damnation , not considering the Lords body , we kindle Gods wrath against us , when we provoke him to plague us with divers diseases , and sundry kinds of death . Nay more , if he joyne with the whole congregation in the rehearsall of the words of the institution , and the consecratory prayer , will he present himselfe on his knees ( for he excepts no Ceremonies ) and receive the consecrated elements , delivered to him with these words ; The body of our Lord Iesus Christ , which was given for thee preserve thy body and soule unto eternall life ; and yet all this while , never thinke of receiving the Sacrament ; but only of eating a piece of bread , and drinking a draught of wine , which shall be better done with the remembrance of Christ then without it . He will say , that our Sacrament is nothing but common bread and wine , and that nought else is to be received a● our Communion Table . The Lord rebuke thee , thou false tongue ! What ▪ because we beleeve not that the bread and wine is transubstantiated into Christs body and blood ; must it therefore be nothing but common bread and bare wine . By the same reason he might say , that because the water in Baptisme is not transubstantiated into Christs blood , that therefore it is nothing but faire water ; and he may in a jesting manner wash a childe in remembrance of Christs washing us with his blood . It is true , we teach with Theodoret , Dial. 2. That the sacred symbols after consecration , depart not out of their own nature , but still remaine , 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , in their former substance shape and figure : but withall we teach , that they remaine not the same in use , signification and supernaturall efficacie ; by vertue of Christs promise to all that worthily partake of the same . Neither could this prophane scoffer be ignorant hereof , for he saith , He hath often been at our Service , where we professe , that all , who with a lively faith receive the holy Sacrament spiritually , eate the flesh of Christ and drinke his blood . He also maketh mention in this Pamphlet of the 39. Articles , which he will have to be the definition of a Protestant , and in those Articles , he could not but reade , Art. 28. Christs body is given , received and eaten in the Supper , but only after a heavenly and spirituall manner ; And in the Apologie of the Church of England , part . 2. cap. 14. The Supper of the Lord , is not only a signe of the love that Christians ought to beare amongst themselves , one to the other , but rather it is a Sacrament of our Redemption by Christs death , in so much , that to such as rightly , worthily , and with faith receive the same , the bread which we breake , is the partaking of the body of Christ , and likewise the cup of blessing , is a partaking of the blood of Christ. With which confession of ours , fully accordeth the Helvetian , the French , the Belgicke , the Augustane , and the Swevick : as he that hath an eare may heare in the Harmony of Confessions , Printed , 1581. cap. 21. De sacrâ coenâ Domini . What should I need for further proofe hereof , either to alleadge the testimonie of Calvin . Epist. 31. Non modo figuratur in coenae communio quam habemus cum Christo , sed etiam exhibetur : neque verba illic nobis dantur à Domino , sed veritas ac res constat cum verbis . Haec porro communio non imaginaria est , sed qua in unum corpus unamque substantiam cum capite nostro coalescimus : There is not only figured in the Supper , that communion which we have with Christ , but it is also exhibited ; neither doth our Lord deceive us , but the truth of the thing is correspondent to his words ; neither is the communion we speake of , an imaginarie , but such a reall one , whereby we grow into one body , and one substance with Chr●st , our head ; or the testimonie of Bucer . Epist. ad Italos addit , hoc est corpus meum , hic sanguis meus , id credamus nec dubitemus haec dari nobis his ipsis symbolis , & dari in cibum & potum vitae aeternae ut magis magisque vivamus in Christo , & habeamus illum manentem in nobis : He addeth this is my body , this is my blood ; let us beleeve it and no way doubt , but that these things are given unto us by or with these very symbols , and that they are given unto us for the food and drinke of eternall life , that we may more and more live in Christ , and have him living in us . It never came into the thought of any professour of the Gospel , to celebrate the Supper of the Lord , without the Lord , as Bucer speaketh in this Epistle , or exclude him from his owne Table . We teach he is there truly present , and is truly received by all worthy communicants but spiritually by faith , not carnally with the mouth according to the grosse Capernaitical conceipt of Romanists . For first our Saviour in the sixth of Iohn , where he commandeth all , to eate his flesh , and drinke his blood , vers . 53. affirming that his flesh is meat indeed , and his blood is drinke indeed ; perceiving that some were offended thereat , saying , vers . 60. this is a hard saying , who can beare it ; thus he declareth his own meaning , vers . 63. The words which I speake unto you , they are spirit and they are life , that is , spiritually to be understood , not carnally and grossely . Secondly , the Orthodox Fathers disclaime this carnall eating with the mouth : St. Cyril in his Anathems denyeth the Sacrament to be hominis comestionem , An Anthropophagie or man eating , St. Chrysostome saith , it is mensa aquilarum , not graculorum : and St. Austine , that it is cibus mentis , not ventris or dentis ; the food of the soule , not of the tooth or belly : Tract 20. in Iohan. Vt quid paras dentes & ventrem crede & manducasti : Why dost thou prepare thy teeth and thy belly , beleeve and thou hast eaten : and St. Cyprian , de coena Dom. haec quoties agimus non , dentes ad manducondum acuimus , sed fide sincera panem sanctum frangimus : As oft as we doe these things , we doe not wh●t our teeth to eate , but with sincere faith we breake that holy bread . Thirdly , Christ never instituted any Sacramentall action , but it was profitable to the soule ; but the eating of Christs flesh with the mouth , and swallowing it down in the stomack , doth no way at all profit the soule . Fourthly , Christ never wrought any miracle outwardly upon the creature ; but the truth therof appeared , even to sense , when he turned the water into wine , Ioh. 2. The change was discovered by the taste , vers . 9 , 10. When the Ruler of the feast had tasted it , he said to the Bridegroome thou hast kept the good wine till now : In like manner when Christ multiplyed the five Barley loaves and the two fishes , both the taste and the stomacke , and the eyes of all that were present gave testimonie to the truth of this miracle . For they did all eate and were satisfied , and saw twelve bask●ts remaining full of the fragments or broken meat which remained to them that had eaten . Neither can it be shewed , that ever Christ the Author of truth deluded the sense . If therefore the bread had been truly and really turned into the substance of flesh either the sight , or the taste , or the touch would have discerned this change , which yet as themselves confesse , discover nothing but the whitenesse , the roundnesse , the taste , and other accidents of bread . Fifthly , If the flesh of Christ may be eaten with the mouth without faith , not only infidels and reprobates , but even rats and mice might sometimes through the negligence of Priests gnaw upon the consecrated Host , and eate the flesh of the Son of God , which were horrid to imagine and blasphemous to utter . Sixthly , if the Romish Priests undoubtedly beleeve this doctrine of transubstantiation , as they doe other Articles of their faith : why did Garnet and other Popish Priests when they were required to say these or the like words ; if after I have consecrated and pronounced the words , this is my body , there be not in stead of the bread the very flesh of Christ let me have no part in heaven , they refused so to doe this profession being demanded of them , but a day or two before their deaths , when if ever , men will clearely discharge their conscience and utter whatsoever is in their very heart , it being the last time they are like ever to confesse with the mouth unto salvation . Seventhly , if the bread be transubstantiated into Christs body , and his body truly really , and properly taken from the hand of the Priest put into the mouth , chawed with the teeth , and swallowed down into the stomacke of all communicants : either Christ of necessitie must have two bodies , one visible , another invisible , one with the full dimensions of a man , the other of a wafer , one passible , the other impassible , one residing in one place , the other filling a million of places : or at least the selfe same body of Christ must at the same time be visible at the right hand of his Father , and invisible in the Host : with the dimensions of a man in heaven , and of a wafer on earth : with distinction of organs in heaven , and inorganicall upon earth : resting in heaven , and moved on earth from the hand to the mouth , and from the mouth to the stomack of millions of communicants . Lastly , I demand of this Priest and his pew-fellows , what becomes of Christs body after it is conveighed into the stomack , doth it remaine there after the forme and accidents of bread are changed or doth it some wayes , remove out of the stomack , or is it there converted into any other substance : they dare not pitch upon any of these three , nothing therefore remaineth but an annihilation or corruption in the stomack and so the holy one of God whom God would never suffer to see corruption , no not in the grave ; shall now after his glorification suffer corruption in the stomack of all Romish Capernaits . i The Apostle in that place speaketh not of Suppers in the plurall number , but the Lords Supper in the singular , and vers . 23. delivereth the right manner of administring it according to Christs institution , and so St. Cyprian in his Tract . de caena Domini , and the most approved interpreters both ancient and moderne understand the word , and not of love feasts . As for the reason this authour alleadgeth for this his exposition , it is very frivolous . For if the love feasts must therfore be tearm●d coena Dominicae our Lords Suppers , because they were made in the Churches which were then called Dominicae , by the same reason the Homilies and Catechisings , and Songs should be called Dominicae , because they were made said or sung in the Churches which were then called Dominicae . k He meaneth a Romane Catholique or Papist , which indeed can hardly be knowne to be a true Catholique . See pag. 1. letterc. But doth he think that we know not what a Papist is ? Let them remember what Polycarp did answer when Marcion accoasting him said , Nosti me ? Doest thou know me ? Yes saith Polycarp . Novi primogenitum diaboli . I know the first begotten of the devill . We know you qua tales , to be the naturall issue of the man of sinne , and whore of Babylon : and in this double and dissembling way it is hard to say of what religion you are , or whether of any at all ? l A lewd slander , it is not lawfull among us for every one to beleeve what hee pleaseth , but this Priest thinketh it lawfull for him to speake what he pleaseth ; though against common sense and his owne conscience . For within tenne lines of these words he maketh mention of the 39 Articles of the Church of England , to which we all are bound to give our assent and consent ; and in case any Parson or Vi●ar doe not reade these Articles and publikely testifie his approbation of them within a moneth after his induction into his Benefice ▪ he lapseth his Living . Besides it is the knowne doctrine of all Protestants that the Scripture is the sole and perfect rule of faith , and that as we may not beleeve any thing contrary unto it ; so neither any doctrine as necessarie to salvation which cannot be evidently proved out of it . Of what brasse then was the brow of this slanderer made , who affirmeth it to be lawfull among Protestants , for every man to beleeve what he pleaseth . m See page 53. Letter E. n See the Advertisement to the Reader . o We are as much beholding to the sti●c●er up of this Safeguard for the Relation herein closed as the Church of Rome hath little cause to con him thanke for it . For hence we learne first , what credit is to be given to the Popes briefes which may be so easily procured by false suggestions , to the wrong and prejudice of those that deserve well of the Roman cause . A cleare evidence hereof we have in Day the Franciscan who never so much as appearing before his Holinesse to answer for himselfe , is censured by the Popes Bull , and that for doing a pious and religious act . Secondly , what a silly Consistory the Papall is at this day , the Pope himselfe as fallible a man as any other , and the Cardinals slight and weake fellows never a skilfull Pilot , sitting at the Sterne of Peters ship . Thirdly , what charitie there is betweene Romish Priests and Iesuits , and how they heape coales of hell fire one upon anothers head . Davenport otherwise Franciscus a Sancta Clara procures a Bull like to Phalaris his brazen Bull with fire in the belly of it , to torment Day the Franciscan without his fault , or knowledge : and this Priest here condemns Sancta Clara to black darknesse for ever : pallentes umbras erebi noct●mque profundam , this man saith he is descending to Lucifer who will presume to be copartn●r with the holy Ghost , and thus leaving him ( the said a Sancta Clara ) to him that will , have him , &c. tantaene animis caelestibus irae ? are they Friers secular Priests , or Devils that thus spit fire one at another ? Let Davenport have the day of Day at Rome , what hath Sancta Clara done that in the charita●le censure of this Priest Lucifer must have him ? He tooke upon him to draw some Rules out of Scriptures and the writings of the ancient Fathers ; For the direction of generall Councels in declaring matters of faith : A capitall crime no doubt : but what else hath this Priest against him ? this Sancta Clara hath Paraphrased upon the Articles of Religion established in the Church of England , and sheweth in what sense and how a good Romane Catholique may with a sa●e conscience subscribe to them all , though eighteene at least of them shoot point blancke at their Trent faith and pierce it through and through . Aggravate th●s fact of his to the height , doth this Priest himselfe doe lesse ? who Paraphraseth upon the Oath of Allegiance and Supremacie , and sheweth in what sense a Romane Catholique may take both , though the former directly renounce the Popes temporall , and the latter his spirituall power and jurisdiction . Now I see what the matter is — 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 . there is and alwayes will be emulation betweene Artificers that worke at the same Trade , this Priest and Sancta Clara are 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 of the same Craft or Trade they both deale in like Commodities , equivocations and mentall reservations and wittie devices to elude oathes , subscriptions to articles of Religion , and religious obligations . Not to dissemble with either of them , they both teach , with the Helcesaites , Euseb. hist. lib. 6. cap. 31. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , dissimulation in point of Religion , and cunning fetches to deceive Chri●tian Magistrates when they are convented before them and unlesse they both repent their doome is set down , Apoc. 22.25 . Without are Dogs and Idolaters and whosoever loveth and maketh a lye . I know well they pretend by this doctrine to keepe men from perjury and lying : but they doe just as Lycurgus the Law-giver of the Lacedemonians did who to prevent adulterie enacted communitie of wives . For equivocation is no better then an artificiall and made lye as the Bishop of Duresme , and Mr. Henry Mason prove in their Treatises of this Argument . p Yet some of these Greyhounds have beene taken by the Hares he speakes of , as Albertus Piggius by Calvin● , Paulus Virgerius by Bre●tius , and divers others , but of this see pag. 53. letter E. q It is true that the Romanists teach the simpler sort of the vulgar , that they are not to adore Images , but onely to use them for memorie sake : and Cardinall Bellarmine himselfe in his second Booke De imaginibus sanctorum , c. 22. hath these expresse words , quantum ad modum loquendi , praesertim in concione ad populum , non est dic●dum imagines ullas adorari debere latriâ ; sede contrariò non debere sic adorari : For the manner of speech especially in Sermons to the people , we must not say that any Images ought to be adored cultu latriae , but on the contrarie , that they ought not to be so adored : Yet the truth is , that the Romane Church maintaineth the religious worship of Images . For in the second Councell of Nice confirmed by Pope Adrian they are thunder smitten who adore them not , clamat Synodus , saith Bellarmine in the Chapter above cited , imagines adorandas and venerabiles imagines amplexamur ; qui secus faxit anathemate percellimus : and in the nineteenth yeere of King Richard the Second , the Lollards have a forme of recantation prescribed them in these words . From this day forward I shall worship Images with praying and offering unto them , in the worship of the aints , that they be made after Ex Rotulo Clausarum de Anno decimo nono R. sec. in 18. dorso . See the Appendix to the Animadversions . And to come neerer ; the Councell of Trent , Sess. 25 , decreeth in these words , Imagines Christi , et deiparae virginis et sanctorum in templis perpetuò habendae et retinendae sunt , iisque debitus honor et veneratio impertienda . The Images of Christ , and of the Virgine the mother of God , and of Saints are perpetually to be had and kept in Churches , and due honour and veneration to be given unto them : and lest any should thinke that this worship and veneration is not to be exhibited , to the Images themselves , but only to glance through them to the Saints . Cardinall Bellarmine in his second booke De imaginibus sanctorum , c. 21. most plainely and expresly resolves the point : Imagines Christi et sanctorum venerandae sunt , non solum per accidens vel improprie ; sed etiam per se et proprie ; ita ut ipsae terminent venerationem , ut in se considerantur ; et non solum ut vi●em gerunt exemplaris : The Images of Christ and Saints are to be worshipped not onely by accident and improperly , but also by themselves an● properly ; so that the worship is terminated in them as they are considered in themselves , and not onely in regard of that they represent . And cap. 20. He acknowledgeth it to be the opinion of Alexander of Hales , Tho : Aquinas , Caietane , Bonaventure , Marsilius , Almaine , Carthusian , Capreolus , and others , that the same honour is due to the Image and the patterne ; and theref●re the Image of Christ is to be worshipped with latria or divine worship . And Vasquez de adorat . l. 1. disp . 6. c. 3. Rex Nebucadonosor admirans sapientiam et spiritum Danielis , in signum honoris et reverentiae , iussit ei offeri munera odorum et suffituum , id quod nos etiam secundum fidem nostram immaginibus facere consuevimus . Nebucadonosor admiring the wisedome and spirit of Daniel , in signe of honour and reverence unto him , commanded that sweete odours and incense should be offered unto him , as we according to our faith use to doe to our images : and now let the intelligent Reader judge whether Protestant Ministers are slanderers , or Papists Idolaters and Image-worshippers by their owne profession See page 52. letter ● . s The bane of Poperie not of Catholique religion . See pag. 1. letter C and pag. 52. letter C. t Nay not so much for Religion , noe nor at all for it , but for Treason and disloyaltie . See pag. 22. letter Q. u The Fathers heo speakes of were the flower of the Councel of Trent , neither were they abused by any false suggestion , for the case was put truely unto them , and they resolved it according to their conscience after long disputation and mature deliberation . See an extract of their Decree in the Appendix to the Animad versions . w If Recusancie be so small a matter , the more to blame all Papists who for such a toy as Recusancie , doth disobey the Lawes . The easier the performance of a cōmandement is , the greater contumacie in disobeying it . x Here he hath found la●●bram periurio , this conceit , of not being bound to answer the truth but before a competent Iudge ( and they will have none a competent ●udge but one of their owne religion ) is the ●yges ring by which the late Papists , especially those that are Iesuited goe invisible in and from all our Cour●s of Iustice. But I demand of them First , why our Iudges in England are not as competent , as those beyond the ●eas : if the King be , as it is treason for them or any other to denie , our Leige Lord and lawfull Sovereigne , those that are put in authoritie under him ( being men of learning and integritie ) cannot be denied to be competent Iudges . The Apostles rule is without exception , There is no power but of God , the powers that be are ordained of God , Rom. 13.1 . And by higher powers to whom we must be subject , he understandeth not onely Kings , but all those that are in authoritie under them , 1 Tim. 2.2 . First the King as supreame , and after governours , as them that are sent by him , 1 Pet. 2.13 , 14. Secondly , I demand of them , whether that command of Saint Peter , 1 Pet. 3.15 . may be limited by their distinction of a Iudge competent and incompetent ? surely though in other causes a man is not bound to appeare or answer coram iudice non competente : yet in matter of faith when we are required to give an account o● it there is no excepting against our Iudge . For we must be ready alwaies to give an answer to every man that asketh us a reason of the hope that is in us with meekenesse and feare . Thirdly , I demand of them whether they account Pilate a competent Iudge in Christs cause , or Nero in Peters and Pauls cause , or any of the Roman Deputies and Proconsuls before whom the glorious army of Martyrs ( who signed the Christian Faith with their bloud ) were brought , were competent Iudges ? they were no Roman Catholiques nor Christians ; yet Christ Iesus before Pontius Pilate , 1 Tim. 6 13. and Peter and Paul before Nero ; and the rest of Christs noble souldiers before heathen Iudges , witnessed a good profession . Fourthly , I demand when that confession of faith which the Apostle implyeth to be necessary to salvation is to be made , Rom. 10.10 . With the mouth confession is made to salvation , is it not when we are brought before Kings and Rulers for Christs name sake , Luke 21.12 . For a testimony against them ? If we are bound to confesse our faith onely to those of our owne religion , because they are onely supposed to be competent judges , no man ever need to suffer for his religion , and all the noble Confessors and Martyrs of former ages by this Iesuiticall doctrine deserved rathers fooles caps then Martyrs crownes : for they did not shed their blouds for Christs cause , but they spilt it causelesly . For they needed not to confesse what they were , before incompetent Iudges . Here I will make bold to use the words of David concerning Abner , 2 Sam. 3.33 . Did Abner die a foole ? Did all those worthies whose soules cryed under the Altar , Apoc. 6.10 . How long Lord , holy and true , dost thou not iudge and avenge our bloud on them that dwell on the earth , and to whom white robes were given , vers . 11. Die as fooles ? it seemed they died so in the judgement of this Priests prudent Catholique , who though by this slight he now avoid all confession of his faith ( that he is not examined before a competent Iudge ) yet he shall one day , when he shall come before the Iudge of all the earth condemne his own folly , and justifie and magnifie also Christs noble Confessors and Martyrs , taking up the lamentation of the reprobate set down in the booke of Wisedome , We fooles accounted their life madnesse , and their end to be without honour , but now how are they numbred among the children of God , and their lot is among the Saints , therefore have we erred from the way of truth , and the Sunne of righteousnesse hath not shined upon us , Wisdome 5.6 . y I have read , logicam si vis discere lege Titlemannum , ille Sophistarū crimi●a pandere vult , but I never read , theologiam si vis discere , lege Titlemannum , he is in a very ill case who rules his conscience by this casuist whose divinitie is no better here then his Latine . I confesse in Machiavels schoole it is a lesson read to those of the upper forme , leoninae assuere vulpinam , to piece out the Lions skinne with a Foxes , but in Christs schoole Zuickius teacheth us another lesson , non decet in hac causa cum vulpibus vulpinari et cum astutissimis huius mundi sapientibus , astutia certare , certandum est nobis solâ perseverantiâ pietate simplicitate adeo et patientiâ crucis : we ought not to play the fox with foxes , nor contend with the subtile vizards of this world in craft and subtiltie , but we must fight against them , with sole perseverance and piety , and simplicitie , and bearing of the Crosse. In the whole Scripture we never reade of fox or fox craft commended . The Spouse in the Canticles commanded to take the foxes , the little foxes that spoile the grapes , Cant. 2.15 . And it is Davids curse upon Gods enemies , let them be a portion for foxes : and our Saviour to brand Herod with perpetuall infamie , calleth him a fox , Luk. 13.32 . saying , Goe ye and tell ●hat fox , neither can it be proved to bee more lawfull for us to play the fox with foxes , then play the wolfe with wolves , or play the Sophister with Sophisters , or play the hypocrite with hypocrites , or play the Devill with Devils . Though craftie companions may deserve to be served with their owne sawce , yet it is not fit for us to dresse it for them . The very Poet could say ac tu indignus qui faceres . That may be very just and fit for one to suffer which is not yet fit for another to inflict or put upon him . However this Priest is not his crafts master . For it is against fox craft to professe it : he will hardly or never deceive a m●n , who brags before hand he will doe it , and though it may be this Priest and his complices are annosae vulp●s , old foxes , and the proverbe is , annosa vulpis haud capitur laqueo : an old fox is seldome or never caug●t in a snare : yet if those who are commanded to catch these foxes should be pleased to make snares with this fox his owne cords here stretched out by him , namely to put them to an expresse abiuration of the maine and fundamentall points of their Trent faith , or set them such a forme of recantation of their tenents , and with such conditions as they enjoyned the Lollards in the dayes of King Richard the second , ( See the Appendix to the Animadversions infra ) it may verily be hoped through Gods blessing upon the wisedome and care of zealous Magistrates , that this Kingdome of England may in time be as free of these foxes as it is now of wolves , with which in former ages it much abounded . z There was no feare of the Iews perverting the primitive Christians , especially in the Apostles dayes in which we reade in the Acts , how mightily the Apostles and their converts confounded the Iewes , Christ making good his promise to them that he would give them a mouth and wisdome which their enemies should not be able to resist , Luk. 21.15 . but the true reason why they made such a Canon ( if yet they made such Canons which is very much doubted ) was to prevent the scandall which the Church might receive by the Christians frequenting the Iews Synagogues in which the now abrogated rites of Moses were to the injury of the Gospell retained , and Christ himselfe blasphemed which no Christian eare ought to endure . a See page 22. letter Q ▪ b If Papists trusted not in their owne merits , it would goe better with them then I feare it will with many , who the more they arrogate to themselves , the more they derogate from our Saviour , and the further they go from salvation . I confesse many of them upon their death-beds have renounced their own merits , and wholly stucke to our Saviours : yet certaine it is that the generall doctrine of the Church of Rome is for trust in their own merits . For they teach that faith alone doth not justifie us before God , that good works are not only satisfactory for sin , but also meritorious of eternall life , and supererogatory also for others ▪ ( Consil. Trid. in sess . 16. Bellar. l. 5. de iustif . c. 16. ) and they who beleeve that they can so farre stead them do commonly confide in them . Let them returne to the more ancient and true tenent with Bernard , saying , Meritum meum est miseratio Domini ; Gods mercy is my merit , and if their be any worke of our own meritorious it is the renouncing our owne merits and flying meerely to Christ ; sufficit ad meritum scire quod non sufficiant merita . Let them confesse with holy Iob , Iob. 9.3 . that they cannot answer one of a thousand , and professe with Esay , Esa. 64.6 . All our righteousnesse is as filthy clowts ; and pray with David , Psal. 143.2 . Lord enter not into iudgement with thy servants , for in thy sight shall no man living be iustified ; and close up their last Will and breath also , as Bellar. is said to have done : ( For Papists often dye in another faith then they lived , ) with that holy ejaculation ; Lord vouchsafe to receive me into the number of thy Saints , non meriti estimator , sed veniae largitor , not weighing my merits , but pardoning my offences , and we will not only cleare them of Pharisaicall pride , and trusting in themselves , but also conceive a better hope of their salvation . c See a spunge to wipe out this false aspersiō upon that worthy servant of Christ and great Instrument of Gods glory , pag. 59. letter H. d See the Advertisement to the Reader . f The head of controversies , betweene the Romish and Reformed Churches is the controversie about the Head of the Church , which the Papists will have the Pope to be , but reformed Churches Christ alone : I say head of the Vniversall or Catholique Church , but of particular Churches , sovereigne Princes within their severall Realmes may be termed Heads , that is , chiefe Governours which this Priest here acknowledgeth . For the acknowledgement of this supreame authoritie and power of the King in his dominions of England and Ireland , the Oath of Supremacie was appointed by Act of Parliament in the 35. of Henry the eighth , to be taken by all his Majesties subjects ; this Act was continued in the reigne of Edward the sixth , but repealed in the first and second of Philip and Mary , and revived the first of Queene Elizabeth : now the question here is , whether the Oath of Supremacie thus confirmed by divers Acts of Parliament , exclude not that Spirituall jurisdiction , which all Papists beleeve to be in the Pope Iure divino : or , which comes all to one , whether a Papist ut si● , that is , remaining a Papist and holding his Popish religion , may salv● conscientiâ , take this Oath of Supremacie : this Priest affirmeth he may ; but we shall demonstrate the contrary hereafter by impregnable arguments drawne from the intention of the Law-makers , the letter of the Acts of Parliament , and the Queenes Injunctions , the judgement of the Church of Rome , and the confession of the adversarie himselfe . g Not the same authoritie which the Pope had in all things , but so farre as it is expounded and limited in the Queenes Injunctions in the first yeere of her reigne ; the Queene ( as her brother and father before ) onely resumed that power , which the Pope had unjusty taken from the Crowne , and usurped it himselfe ; a power which is and was of ancient time due to the Imperiall Crowne of this Realme , that is , under God to have the Sovereigntie and rule over all manner of persons , borne within these Realmes and Dominions , and Countries , of what estate either Ecclesiasticall or temporal soever they be . See admonition to the Injunctions in the Appendix . h Calvine conceived that King Henry the eighth by the Title of Head of the Church , challenged a farre greater power then what the Act of Parliament acknowledged in him , or he ever exercised : but after the Title of Head of the Church was publikely declared and expounded by Q. Elizabeth , bo●h he and all the Reformed Churches rested satisfied in the lawfulnesse of that Title which imported not Supreame teacher or directer unto Trtuh : but Supreame commander for the Truth , in all causes , and over all Persons . i The intention of Henry the eighth , and Queene Elizabeth , was the selfe same as is expressed in the Act of Parliament 35. Henry the eighth ; and the Admonition annexed to the Injunctions of the 1 Elizabeth : namely the extirpation and extinguishment of the usurped and pretended authoritie , power and iurisdiction of the See and Bishop of Rome : and the recovery of their owne right by adorning the Crowne with a flowre before wrongfully taken from it : and here I cannot sufficiently admire the impudence of this Priest who so confidently affirmes that the intention of Queene Elizabeth was divers from her father in prescribing and requiring this Oath , whereas she her selfe in the above named Admonition declareth to all her loving subjects , That nothing was , is , or shall be meant or in●ended by the same Oath , to have any other dutie , allegiance or bond required by the same , then was acknowledged to be due to the most nobl● King of famous memory , K. H. 8. her Maiesties father , or K. Ed. 6. her Maiesties bro●●er . k The liberty he speakes of was given by the approbation of the chief Vniversities beyond the Sea of the Romish Religion . l Not to forme another Church , but to reforme that Church which was before , and restore Religion to her puritie by the example of Ezekiah , Iosiah , and other religious Kings . m No power at all excepted but the former power explained onely how farre it extended ( viz ) Not to the authoritie and power of Ministrie of divine Office in the Church , which none of the Kings or Queenes of this Realme possessours of the Crowne ever challenged . Nor I in this place by what authoritie your Bishops anoynt your thumbes and ordaine your Priests to offer the unbloody sacrifice of the Mas●e for the living & the dead . There is nec vola nec vestigium of any such calling in the Scripture or purer Antiquitie , as for our Ministry it is ●o clearely justified together with the succession thereof , out of your own best records and tenents by Francis Mason de succes . Episc. & Ministerio Angl. that ever since the printing therof all your Romish cavillers & carpers at it , have been as mute as fishes . o See p. 117. letter ● . p A shameles untruth in his sense : for he taketh Catholike ( as usually in this Pamphlet ) for the Romish and Popish Church & in that sense it is most false . For there were many congregations in England before this 35 of Hen. 8. of Protestants , and divers crowned with martyrdome as Th. Man in the yeere 1518. Io. Browne in the yeere 1517. and divers others set down in the Acts and Monuments of the Church , some before and some after Luther began the Reformation in Germanie . q A notorious untruth as appeares by the very Act , Ann. 35. in which the Oath of Supremacy was first required to be taken , King Henry never challenged to himselfe the Style of Head of the universall Church , but only to bee supreame H●ad under God of the Church of England , and Ireland , and all other His Majesties Dominions . r No other Oath at all in sense , but the former only abridged in words as will appeare evidently by comparing them both which are copied out in the Appendix . s A ridiculous evasion and contrary to the intention and letter of the law , as shall be proved hereafter . The intention of the law was to abrogate the Popes usurped jurisdiction not over the Protestant Churches which he never had : but over the Romish Catholiques or Papists which he before that time enjoyed , and exercised . Besides , the letter of the law carryeth supreame governour of the Realme and all other Her Highnesse Dominions and Countreys , not only of the Protestant Church within Her Realmes . This is made more evident in the Admonition to the Injunctions , 1. Eliz. where Her Supremacie is described to be over all manner of persons borne within Her Realmes , Dominions and Countreys : therefore over Papists as well as Protestants , unlesse they be no manner of persons . t I acknowledge the word forreiner is sometimes taken for an opposite to domesticus fidei , a stranger from the covenant of grace : but in the Act of Parliament and Oath of Supremacie , as it is expounded in the Admonition ( which is also Enacted ) the word forreiner can signifie no other but those who are not natives . u Neither can the Pope . Here we thanke him for freeing us from all subjection to the Pope and See of Rome . Though he challengeth not to be the Head of the Catholike , that is , the universall Church of Christ scattered farre and wide over the whole face of the earth : yet he challengeth to be and is Supreame Governour of all His Subjects within His Dominions , whether they are members of the Romish or Reformed Church . w The superstition and Idolatry of Papists practised in England doth not any way abridge His Majesties Supreame power , for he exerciseth His power not in regulating those idolatrous and superstitious rites , but in suppressing them , and punishing those who so defile Gods worship in His Kingdome . x See this Evasion refuted , pag. 120. letter S. y The words of the Oath are not that no forreiner , Prince , or Prelate , hath or ought to have any iurisdiction or spirituall authoritie within the Protestant Church but within the Realmes , therefore no jurisdiction within His Majesties Dominions , over any members either of the Protestant or of the Romish Church . z See the Answer to this sophisme , pag. 120. letter T. a It is true if the words will beare it and it be agreeable to the intention of the law & lawmaker , but maledicta glossa quae corrumpit contextum ; cursed be the Glosse which corrupts the Text , & quite perverts the meaning of the law as this doth . See the Injunctions . b Of the intention of the law and lawmaker in prescribing this oath to that which I have spoken before I shall adde something in the close of this Chapter to which ●referre the Reader for further answer c The law is just and reasonable without your forced , and forged Glosse : for why should not all that enjoy the benefit of his Majesties lawes as well as Protestants , submit themselves to his Majesties scepter , and supreame power over themselves as well as Protestants , especially seeing the power is the same , which the most religious Kings of Iuda , and most Christian Emperours of Rome , and divers of his Majesties Predecessors within this Realme have exercised upon all their subjects . d See pag. 119. letter Q. e See pag. 119. letter R. f And yet his words as you cite them out of his Praemonitorie Preface , pag. 9. are these : The oath of Supremacie was devised for putting a difference betweene Papists and them of our profession , Devised by whom but by the lawmakers ; and if devised by the the lawmakers for this end , to put a difference betweene Papists & Protestants , it cannot be denied but that it was their intention , to make this oath as a didinctive signe whereby to know Papists in the kingdome from Protestants . g See pag. 118. letter P. h The question whether a Papist may with a safe conscience take the ●ath of Supremacie , may be understood either in sensu diviso , or in sensu composito , in sensu diviso it is true , that a Papist may and ought to take the Oath of Supremacie : for he that is now a Papist may become a Protestant , and then he not onely may , but ought to take this Oath being lawfully tendered unto him : but in sensu composito it is false that a Papist continuing in his faith and profession of popery may with a safe conscience take this Oath : for this Oath implyeth the renouncing a maine Article of his faith from whence he hath the denomination of a Papist ( See the Notes of the Rhemists upon Act. 11.26 . which fasten and assume this word or name Papist to the children of their papall Church ) namely the Popes Supremacie : and this as before was promised shall now be demonstrated . 1. ●irst from the intention of the law and lawmakers , who prescribed this Oath of Supremacie as appeares both by the Preface to the Oath : Whereas ther● was a Statute made and ordained against such as would extoll and stand to the iurisdiction , power and authoritie of the See and Bishop of Rome : in which Statute there is comprised another oath in such wise as in the same Statute among other thin●● is mentioned : for as much as in both the said Oathes there lacketh full an● sufficient words , whereby some doubts might rise : Be it enacted by the authoritie of this Parliament , that this Oath hereafter mentioned in this Act shall s●and in force and place of the same two Oathes . And by these words in the bodie of the Oath , I shall keepe all the contents of the Act , and all other Acts and Statutes made in and for that purpose : viz. the derogation , the extirpation , and extinguishment of the usurped and pretended authoritie , power and iurisdiction of the See and Bishop of Rome . As likewise by the Preface to the Act of Parliament in 1. Elizabeth , viz. To the intent that all usurped and forreigne power , and authoritie Spirituall and Temporall , may for ever be cleerely extinguished , and never to be used or obeyed within this Realme , or any other your Maiesties Dominions and Countries : may it please your Highnesse that it may be enacted as followeth , &c. Hence I thus argue : No Papist with a good conscience can take an Oath prescribed by an Act of Parliament made purposely , and with an expresse intention for the extirpation of the Popes jurisdiction and Supremacie over the whole Church , which he claimeth by vertue of Christs promise made to Peter , tibi dabo claves . But such is the Oath of Supremacie as appeares by the Statutes above cited . Ergo , No Papist with a good conscience may take it . 2. Secondly , from the letter of the law and formal● and expresse words of the Oath , which are these : That neither the See , nor Bishop of Rome , nor any forreigne Potentate hath or ought to have , any Iurisdiction , power , or authoritie , within this Realme ; neither by Gods Law , nor by any other iust law or meanes , Henry 8.35 . yeere , hereunto adde the Admonition to the Queenes Injunctions . Hence I thus argue . No Papist may take an Oath which containeth in it the renouncing a prime Article of his faith , necessary to salvation in his Religion and the iudgement of his Church . But every Papist taking the Oath of Supremacie renounceth a prime Article of his faith necessarie to salvation . For so we reade in the Extravagans , cap. unam sanctam de maior . et obed . Subesse Romano pontifici , omni humanae creaturae declaramus dicimus , definimus , et pronunciamus , omnino esse de necessitate salutis . We ( saith Boniface the eighth ) declare , say , define , and pronounce that it is altogether or absolutely necessary to salvation for every humane creature to be subiect to the Bishop of Rome . Ergo , no Papist may take the Oath of Supremacie . 3. Thirdly , from the judgement of the Church of Rome , which accounteth Fisher Bishop of Rochester , and Sir Thomas Moore sometimes Lord Chan●ellour of England , blessed and glorious Martyrs , because both these lost 〈◊〉 heads ●ather then they would acknowledge the King Supreame Head 〈…〉 and 〈◊〉 the Popes Headship . To omit the testimonies 〈…〉 ●ovius Bishop in Italie , Iohn Cochleus of Germanie , William Paradine a learned Historian of France , Cardinall Poole , living in the Court at Rome and writing to the King in the defence of Ecclesiasticall unitie , saith thus by the figure of Apostroph● : Thy Father O England , thy ornament , thy de●●nce was brought to his death being innocent in thy sight ; and a little after , he lef● his life for thy sake , left he should overthrow and b●tray thy salvation : and Cardinall B●llarmine in his Booke De Scriptoribus Ecclesiasticis ab Anno 1400. ad 1500. thus writeth of Fisher Bishop of Rochester . Iohannes Fischerus natione Anglus , Episcopus Roffensis , posteà , S. R. E. Cardinalis , et quod longe gloriofius est , Martyr Christi occisus est Henrici octavi Regis anglorum iussu , Anno , 1535. Iohn Fisher an English man Bishop of Rochester , and afterwards Car●inall , and which makes him farre more glorious , a Martyr of Christ was slaine by the coommandement of King Henrie the eighth , in the yeere of our Lord one thousand five hundred thirty five : Whence I thus argue . To his evasion that it was not the same Oath . See the answer , p. 119. letter R. and the Appendix p. 141. Either Fisher and Moore were no Martyrs , who died for refusing to take this Oath , or they are no good Papists who take it . But Fisher and Moore were famous and glorious Martyrs in the opinion of the Romane Church as hath beene prooved . Ergo , they who take the Oath of Supremacie are no good Papists . 4. Fourthly , from the confession of this Priest , pag. 118. The Oath of Supremacie when it was made in the dayes of King Henry 8. was unlawfull to be taken by any Catholique : and pag. 119. If any had sworne the King to be Supreame Head of that Church , he would have sworne false , as making the Church a monster having two heads , or depriving the Pope of his authoritie granted him by God. Whence I thus argue . The Oath of Supremacie prescribed by that Act of Parliament , in the 35. of Henry 8. was unlawfull to be taken by any Roman Catholique , as this Priest confesseth . But the Oath of Supremacie prescribed by Act of Parliament in the first of Elizabeth in force at this day , is the same with the Oath prescribed by Act of Parliament in the 35. of Henrie the eighth , as appeareth by comparing both the Oathes together , with a proviso in an Act the fifth of Elizabeth for expounding this Oath , where it is said : That we confesse and acknowledge in her Maiestie , her Heires and Successours , no other authoritie , then that which was challenged , and lately used by the noble King Henrie the eighth , and King Edward the sixth : as in the Admonition to the Qeenes Injunctions more plainly appeares . The Queenes Maiestie would that all her loving subiects should understand that nothing was , is , or shall be meant , or intended by the same Oath , to have any other Dutie , Allegiance , or Bond required by the same Oath , then was acknowledged to be due to the most noble King of famous memorie , King Henrie the eighth her Maiesties father , or King Edward the sixt , her Maiesties brother . Ergo , the Oath of Supremacie prescribed by Act of Parliament the first of Elizabeth , is unlawfull to be taken by any Romane Catholique . I conclude therefore , super tota materia that the taking of the Oath of Supremacie , is an abrenunciation of the Romish faith , and consequently , that we wrong no Papist that takes the Oath , if we beleeve him a forswearer who forsweares his beliefe . Notes for div A41019-e21360 De memorando irrotulat● . Notes for div A41019-e22100 * The Hel●esaus w●re cond●mned for heretikes , for hol●ing a man might deny his faith with his mouth so hee keepe it in his heart . Euseb. h●st l. 6. c. 31. a Rom. 10.10 . Cic. pro 〈◊〉 Am●r . vultu saepe lad●tur 〈◊〉 . Ep. ●● . contami●ari se 〈…〉 a●am illam vid●●i● ▪ 〈◊〉 ibid. Fe●end●m ne est ut , gentilis sacrif●c●t , christianus inter sit ? S●zo . hist. eccles . l. 5. c. 16. prejecto ad pedes au●o , &c. * Suidas in Auxent . * Marcus Bishop of Arrethusa . Theod. hist. l. 3 c. 6.