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Written by Sir R.C. and pre Cotton, Robert, Sir 1641 11363 3 10 0 0 0 0 11 C The rate of 11 defects per 10,000 words puts this text in the C category of texts with between 10 and 35 defects per 10,000 words. 2005-08 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2005-08 Aptara Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2006-01 Jonathan Blaney Sampled and proofread 2006-01 Jonathan Blaney Text and markup reviewed and edited 2006-04 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion SERIOVS CONSIDERATIONS for repressing of the increase of IESVITES , PRIESTS , and PAPISTS , without shedding of Blood . Written by Sir R. C. and Presented to King IAMES of happie Memory . Printed Anno Dom. MDCXLI . CONSIDERATIONS FOR THE REPRESSING of Priests , Jesuites , and Recusants , without drawing of Blood . I Am not ignorant , that this later Age hath brought forth a swarm of busie heads , which measure the great mysteries of State by the Rule of their self-conceited wisdome ; But if they would cōsider , that the Common-wealth governed by grave Counsellors , is like unto a Ship directed by a skilfull Pylot , to whom the necessities of occasions and grounds of Reason , why hee steereth the Helme to this or that point of the Compasse , are better knowne , then to those that stand aloofe off ; they would perhaps be more sparing if not more wary in their Resolutions . For my owne particular , J must confesse , that J am naturally too much inclined to his opinion , who once said ; Qui bene latuit , bene vixit , and freshly recalling to mind , the saying of Functius to his Friend at the houre of his untimely Death : Disce , meo exemplo , mandato munere fungi : Et fuge ceu Pestem , {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} . J could easily forbeare to make my hand-writing the Record of any opinion , which neverthelesse I protest to maintaine , rather deliberatively then by the way of a conclusive assertion ; Therefore without wasting precious time any longer , with needlesse Prologue , I will briefly set downe the question in the termes following : Whether it be more expedient to suppresse Popish practises , against the due Allegiance to his Majestie , by the strict execution of the Lawes Touching Jesuites , and Seminary Priests , or to restraine them to close Prison during life , if no reformation following . The doubt propounded consisting of Two Branches , necessarily requireth to be distinctly handled , that by comparing either part the conveniency , mentioned in the Question , may be cleered with more facilitie . 1. In favour of the first Division there are not a few , who grounding themselves on an ancient Proverbe , {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} , A dead man bites not : Affirme that such are dangerous to be preserved alive , who being guilty , condemned , and full of feare , are likely for purchase of life and liberty , to ingage their utmost in desperate adventures against their King and Countrey . 2. No lesse is it to be feared , that while the Sword of Justice is remisse in cutting off hainous offenders , against the dignity of the Crowne , the misled Papall multitude in the interim , may enter into a jealous suspence , whether that forbearance proceed from the feare of exasperating their desperate humours , or that it is now become questionable , whether the execution of their Priests be simply for matter of State , or pretended quarrell for Religion . 3. And whereas in a remedilesse inconvenience , it is lawfull to use the extremity of Lawes against some few , that many by terrour of the Example may be reformed ; what hope can there be , that clemency may tame their hearts , who interpret his Majesties grace in Transporting their Priests out of this Realme to be a meere shift , to rid the Prisons of those whom Conscience could not condemne of any capitall crime . 4. Neither are their vaunting whisperings to be neglected , by which they seeke to confirme the fearefull Soules of their party , and to inveigle the ignorant , doubtfull , or discontented persons ; for if the glorious extolling of their powerfull Friends , and the expecting of a golden day be suffered , to winne credit with the meaner sort , the relapse cannot be small , or the meanes easie to reforme the Errour , without a generall combustion of the State . 5. Let experience speake somewhat in this behalfe , which hath evidently discryed within the current of few yeares ; That the forbearance of Severity hath multiplied their Roll in such manner , that it remaines as a Corrasive to thousands of his Majesties well affected Subjects . 6. To what purpose serves it , to muster the names of the Protestants , or to vaunt them to be ten for one of the Roman faction , as if bare figures of numeration could prevaile against an united party resolved and advised aforehand , how to turne their faces with assurance unto all dangers , while in the meane time , the Protestants nestling in vaine security , suffer the weed to grow up that threateneth their bane and mercilesse ruine ? 7. Sometimes the Oath of Supremacie choked their presumptuous imaginations , and yet could not that infernall smoake be wholly smothered , nor the Locusts issuing there-out , be cleansed from the face of this Land . Now that the Temporall power of the King , contained in the Oath of Allegeance , is by the Papall Sea , and many of the Adorers thereof , impudently avowed to be unlawfull ; shall the broachers of such Doctrine be suffered to live , yea to live and be received of us , for whose destruction they groane daily ? 8. To be a right Popish Priest , in true English sense , is to beare the Character of a disloyall Renegade , of his naturall obedience to his Soveraigne ; Whom , if by connivence he shall let slip or chastice with a light hand ; what immunity may not Trayterous delinquents in lesser degrees expect or challenge after a sort , in Equity and Justice . 9 If there were no receivers there would be no Theeves : Likewise , if there were no Harbourers of the Iesuites , it is to be presumed that they would not trouble this Isle with their presence ; Therefore Rigor must be extended against the Receiver , that the Jesuite may be kept out of doores ; were it then indifferent Justice to hang vp the Accessary and let the Principall goe free ; namely to suffer the Priest to draw his breath at length , while the entertainer of him vnder his Roofe submits his body to the Executioners hand ? Without doubt if it be fit to forbeare the chiefe , it will be necessary to receive the second offender into protection . Wherewith a mischiefe must ensue of continuall expence ; and scandalous restraint of so great a number . 10. Reputation is one of the Principall Arteryes of the Common-wealth , which Maxime is so well knowne to the Secretaries of the Papacie ; That by private Forgeries and publicke impressions of Calumniations , they endeavour to wound us in that vitall part ; Howsoever therefore , some few of that stampe being better tempered then their fellowes in defence of this present government , have not spared to affirme ; That tyranny is vnjustly ascribed therevnto , for so much as freedome of Conscience , after a sort , may be redeemed for money ; Notwithstanding there want not many Pamphleters of their side , who opprobriously cast in our teethes , the converting of the Penalty , inflicted on Recusants , and refusers of the oath of alleageance from the Kings Exchequer to a particular purse : surely we cannot presume that these Libellers may be disswaded from spitting out their venome maliciously against vs , when they shall see their Priests mewed vp without further processe of Law : For either they will attribute this calme dealing to the Justice of their cause , the strength of their party or patience , or that tract of time hath discovered our Lawes importing overmuch sharpenesse in good policy , to be thought fitter for abrogation , by non vsance , then repealed by a publicke decree . 11. Moreover it is fore-thought by some , that if these Seminaries be onely restrayned , that they may prove hereafter like a snake , kept in the Bosome , such as Bonner , Gardiner , and others of the same Livery shewed themselves to be after Liberty , obtained in Queene Maries dayes ; And if the losse of their Ghostly Fathers agrieve them , it is probable , that they will take Armes sooner , and with more courage to free the Living , then to set vp a Trophie to the dead . 12. How soever the Iesuites Band is knowne in their Native soyle , to be defective in many respects , which makes them vnderlings to the Protestants ; as in authority , armes and the Protection of the Lawes , which is all in all : Neverthelesse , they insinuate themselues to forraigne Princes , favouring their party , with promises of strange assistance at home ; if they may be well backed from abroad ; To which purpose they have divided the Inhabitants of this Realme into foure Sects ; Whereof Ranking their Troupes in the first place ( as due to the pretended Catholiques ) they assumed a full fourth part to their property , and of that part againe they made a Subdivision into two portions ; namely of those that openly renounced the established Church of England , and others whose certaine number could not be assigned : Because they frequented our service , our Sacramēts , reserving their hearts to their Lord God the Pope . The second party they allot to the Protestants , who retaine yet , as they say , some Reliques of their Church ; The third Ranke and largest , was left vnto the Puritans , whom they hate deadly , in respect , that they will hold no indifferent quarter with Papistry . The fourth and last maniple ; They assigne to the Politicians : Huomini ( say they ) Senza Dio , & Senz anima : Men without feare of God , or regard of their Soules ; Who busying themselves onely with matters of State , retaine no sense of Religion : without doubt , if the Authors of this partition have cast their account aright , we must confesse , the latter Broode is to be ascribed properly vnto them ; For if the vndermining of the Parliament House , the scandalizing of the King in Print , who is Gods annoynted ; And the refusall of naturall obedience , be workes of those that neither stand in awe of God or Conscience ; well may the Papists boast , that they are assured of the first number ; and may presume likewise of the lasts friendship , when occasion shall be offered ; For the preventing of which combination ; it is a sure way to cut off the Heads ; that should tye the knot , or at least , to brand them with a marke in the forehead , before they be dismissed , or after the opinion of others , to make them vnwelcome to the faeminine Sexe ; which now with great fervency imbraceth them . These are for the most part Arguments vented in ordinary discourse , by many who suppose a Priests breath to be contagious in our English Ayre ; others there are , who maintaine the second part of the question , with reasons not vnworthy of observance . Death is the end of Temporall woes ; But it may in no wise be accounted the grave of memory ; Therefore howsoever it is in the power of Justice to suppresse the person of a man , the opinion for which he suffered ( conceived truly or vntruely in the hearts of a multitude ) is not subject to the edge of any swor● how sharpe or keene soever : I confesse that the Teeth are soone blunted , that byte only out of the malice of a singular faction : But where poyson is diffused through the veynes of a Common-wealth with intermixture of Blood , good and bad , separation is to be made rather by vacuation , then by present incision : The greatest byter of a State is Envie ioyned with thirst of Revenge , which seldome declares it selfe in plaine Colours , vntill a Jealousie conceived of personall dangers breaketh out into desperate resolutions : Here comes it to passe , that when one mal-contented member is grieved , the rest of the body is sensible thereof ; neither can a Priest or Iesuite be cut off without a generall murmure of their Secretaries , which being confident in their number , secretly arme for opposition , or confirmed with their Martyrs blood , ( as they are perswaded ) resolve by patience and sufferance to glorifie their cause ; and to merit heaven . Doe we not daily see , that it is easier to confront a private Enemy , then a society or Corporation : And that the hatred of a State is more immortall then the spleene of a Monarchy ; Therefore except it be demonstrated , that the whole Roman City which consists not of one broode , but of a succession of Persons may be cut off at the first stroake , as one entrei head , I see no cause to thinke our state secured by sitting on the skirts of some few Seminaries , leaving in the meane time a multitude of snarlers abroad , who already shew their Teeth and onely waite opportunity to bite fiercely . I will not deny , that whom we feare , we commonly hate ; provided alwaies , that no merit hath interceeded a reconciliation ; For there is great difference between hatred conceived against him that will take away the life , and him that may justly doe it , and yet in Clemency forbeares to put it in effect , For the latter breedeth reverent awe , whereas the former subjecteth to servile feare , alwaies accompanied with desire of innovations . And although it hath bin affirmed of the Church of Rome ; Quod Pontificium genus semper crudele ; Neverthelesse out of Charity , let us hope that all Devils are not so black as they are paynted ; Some or perhaps many of them there are , whom Conscience or in default thereof , pure shame of the world will constrain to confesse , that his Majestie most graciously distinguisheth the Theory of Popery , from the Active part thereof ; as being naturally inclined ; Parvis peccatis veniam , magnis sever itatem commodare ; nec poena semper , sed Saepius poenitentia Contentus esse . 2. Mistaking of punishments , legally inflicted , commonly proceeds from fond pitty , or the interest which we have in the same cause , both which beget blind partiality . Admit then that the Papall side , affecting merit , by compassion may be meerely touched , with the restraint of their Seminaries ; that cannot be denyed , I hope , except they had the hearts of Tygers ; that in humanity they will preferre their ease of durance before the Rigor of death : And albeit that PARSONS , BELLARMINE , and the POPE himselfe , constraine their spirituall Children , to thrust their fingers into the fire , by refusing the oath of alleageance : Notwithstanding we have many Testimonies in Judiciall Courts , and printed Bookes , that the greater part of them are of that Theban Hunters mind , who would rather have seen his Dogs cruell Acts , then have felt them , to his owne cost . Garnet himselfe also in one of his secret Letters lamented , that after his death , hee should not be enroled amongst the Martyrs : Because that no matter of Religion was objected against him , yet it plainely appeares in his demeanure ; That hee would gladly have survived the possibility of that glory , if any such hope had remained , neither is it to be presumed , that being in prison , he would ever have conceived that we durst not touch his Reverence , or that the Law was remisse , which had justly condemned him and left his life to the Kings mercy , it was the distance of the place and not persons , that interpreted the sending over Seas of the Priests , to be a greater Argument of their innocency , then of his Majesties forbearance : For had Father Parsons himselfe bin Coram nobis , his song would rather have been of mercy then Justice . It is truely said , that we are all instructed , Better by examples then precepts ; Therefore if the Lawes printed , & indictments recorded cannot controle the Calumniations of those that wilfully will mistake Treason for Religion , By the execution of 2. or 3. of that Backbiting number , I doubt not , but the question may readily be decided , Namque immedicabile vulous ense recidendum est , ne pars sincera trahatur . To dally with Pragmaticall Papists , especially with those that by their example & counsell pervert his Majesties Subjects , I hold it a poynt of meere Injustice : For what comfort may the good expect when the bad are by connivence freed to speake and imboldened , to put their disloyall thoughts in execution ? For explaining therefore of my meaning , it is necessary to have a regard vnto the nature of the Kings Liege people , that are to be reformed by example of Iustice , & other forrayners who will we , nill we , must be censurers of our actions . It hath been truly observed , that the Nations of Europe , wch are most remote from Rome , are more superstitiously enclined to the dregs of that place , then the neare neighbours of Italy : whether that humour proceed from the cōplexion of the Northern bodies wch is naturally more retentive of old Customes , then hotter Regions ; or that the vices of the City , seated on 7. Hils , are by crafty Ministers of that Sea , concealed from the vulgar sort , Ilist not now discusse , but most certaine it is , that the people of this Isle exceed the Romans in zeale of their profession : Insomuch , that in Rome it selfe , I have heard the English Fugitives taxed by the name of Pichiapetti Inglesi . Now as our Countrymen take surer holdfast of Papall Traditions , then others : so are they naturally better fortified with a courage to endure death for the maintenance of that cause ; For this Clymate is of that temperature , out of which Vegetius holdeth it fittest , to choose a valiant souldier , where the heart finding it self provided of plenty of blood to sustain sodain defects , is not so soone apprehensive of death or dangers , as where the store-house of blood being small , every hazard maketh pale Cheeks and trembling hands ( Angli ) say ancient writers , bello intrepidi , nec mortis sensu deterrentur : And thereunto Botero the Italian beareth witnesse in his relations of many strangers , therefore comming out of forraine parts , among the Rarities of England , desired to see whether report hath not bin too lavish in affirming that our condemned persons yeeld their bodies to death with cheerfulnesse . And were it not that by daily experience , we can call our selves to witnesse of this truth , J could produce the Reverend Judge Fortescue , who in commendation of our English Lawes , made suteable , as he well observeth , to the inbred conditions of the Inhabitants of this Soyle , avoweth that the English people in tryall for criminall causes are not compelled by Tortures to confesse , as in other Nations it is vsed , for as much as the quality of the English is known to be lesse fearefull of death , then of Torments , for which cause , if the Torments of the Civill Law were offered to an innocent person in England , he would rather yeeld himselfe guilty and suffer death , then endure the horror of lingring paines ; Insulani plerumque fures ( saith one ) and so true it is , that this Country is stained with that imputation , notwithstanding that many are put to death , to the end that others , by their fall , might learne in time to beware : if then it doth appeare that terror prevailes not to keep men from offences , which are condemned by Law and Conscience , what assurance can there be to scare those who are constantly satisfied in their minds , that their sufferings are either expresly or by implication for matter of Religion and health of their Soules ; In such a case to threaten death to Englishmen ; Quibus nihil interest humive , sublimive putrescant , is a matter of small consequence , Purpuratis Gallis , Italis aut Hispanis ista minitari , to a setled resolution of death , menaces to prolong a wearisome life , prevaile much more in such cases . Rightly did Clement the 8th consider that by burning two Englishmen in Rome for supposed Heresie , he rather impaired his cause , then bettered it ; Jnsomuch that many present at the resolute death of Mr. Marsh , who was brought to dust in Campo di Santa Fiore , spared not to proclaime him for a Martyr , carried away of his ashes for a Relique , & wished their soules in the same place with his ; which newes brought to the Popes eare , caused him ( as it was bruted about in Rome ) solemnly protest ; That none of the English Nation should publiquely from that time forward , be consumed with fire ; On the other side , if we read the volumes written in praise of their Priests constancy , their Martyrologie or Kalender of Martyrs , and Path way of salvation , as it were chalked out vnto the Papists , by sacrificing their lives for the Pope ; we shall find that by taking away of one , we have confirmed and invited many ; whereof I could give particular instances , if I thought any scruple were made in that point . As for forraigne parts , which hold with the Papall Supremacy , it is cleere , that they will be severe and partiall Judges in this cause ; For albeit that here in England it is well known to all true and loyall Subjects ; that for matter of Roman Doctrine , no mans life is directly called into question : But that their disobedience in reason of State , is the only motive of their prosecution ; Neverthelesse where a great Canton of Christendome is rooted in a contrary opinion , & things in this world are for the most part esteemed by outward appearance ; this Land cannot escape malicious scandals , neithet shal there be want of Colledges to supply their faction with Seminaries . Therefore again , and again I say , that if the state of the question were so set that it were possible by a generall execution of the Priests and their Adherents , to end the controversie , J could in some sort with better will subscribe thereunto ; But seeing J find little hope in that course , J hold it safer to be ambitious of the victory , which is purchased with lesse losse of blood , and to proceed , as Tully teacheth his Orator ; who when he cannot wholly overthrow his Adversary , yet ought he to doe it in some part , and with all endeavour to confirme his owne party in the best manner that may be . 4. He that forbeareth to sowe his ground in expectance of good winde , or a favourable Moone , commonly hath a poore Crop , and a leane Purse ; So shall it fare with this state , if private whisperings of discōtented persons , that neverlearnt to speak well , be too nicely regarded ; yet ought they not to be slightly set at nought , lest our credit grow light , even in the Ballance of our dearest friends . The Papasticall Libels informe against vs , as if we were desirous to grow fat with sucking of their Blood , the very walls of their Seminary Colledge at Rome , are bedawbed with their lying phansies , and in every corner , the Corner-creepers leave some badge of their malicious spleen against vs , crying out of cruelty and persecution : But if the penalty of death be changed into a simple indurance of Prison , what moate can they find in our eyes to pull out ; or with what Rhetorick can they defend their obstinate malipertnesse , wch with repaying vs ill for good , deserve to have coales of indignation powred vpon their heads , Visne muliebre consilium , said Livia to Augustus , let severity sleepe a while , and try what alteration the pardoning of Cinna mayprocure ; The Emperour harkened to her Counsell , and thereby found his Enemies mouthes stopt , and the malice abated ; some there are perchance , that will terme this Clemency , innovation , and vouch the Precedent of that City , who permitted none to propound new Lawes , that had not a Corde about their necks , ready for vengeance , if it were found voprofitable : But let such Stoyicks know , that there is great difference between the penning of a new Law , and advise given for the manner of executing it ; neither by their Leaves , are all Jnnovations to be rejected ; For divine Plato teacheth vs , that in all Common wealths , vpon just grounds , there ought to be some changes ; And that Statesmen therein must behave themselves like skilfull Musitians , Qui artem Musices non mutant , sed musices modum . 5. That an evil weede groweth fast , by example of the new Catholiques increase is cleerely convinced ; But he that will ascribe this generation simply to his Majesties Heroicall vertue of Clemency , argueth out of the fallacy which is called Ignoratio Elenchi . Was not the zeale of many cooled towards the last end of Queene Elizabeths Raigne , hath not the impertinent heate of some of our owne side bereft us of part of our strength ? And the Papacy with tract of time gotten a hard skinne on their Consciences ; Parva metu primo , mox sese attollit in altum : But if we will with a better insight , behold how this great quantity of Spawne is multiplied , we must especially ascribe the cause thereof to their Priests , who by their deaths prepare and assure more to their sect , then by their lives they could ever perswade . It were incivility to distrust a friend , or one that hath the shew of an honest man , if he will franckly give his word , or confirme it with a sacred Oath : But when a protestation is made upon the least gaspe of life , it is of great effect , and possesseth those that cannot gain say it upon their owne knowledge . The number of these Priests , which now a dayes come to make a Tragicall conclusion , is not great ; Yet as with one Seale many Pattents are Sealed , so with the losse of few lives numbers of wavering spirits may be gained , Sanguis martyrum semen Ecclesiae ; And though these Priests having indeed a disadvantagious cause , are in very deed but counterfeit Shadowes of Martyrs unto a true vnderstanding , yet will they be reputed for such by those that lay their soules to pawne vnto their Doctrine , with whom , if we list to contend by multitude of voyces , we shall be cryed down , without all peradventure ; For the gate of their Church is wide , and many there are that enter thereinto . 6. By divers meanes , it is possible to come to one and the selfe-same end ; seeing that then the some of our welwishings is all one ; Namely that Popish Priests may have no power to doe harme ; It is not impertinent to try sundry pathes , which may leade vs to the perfecting of our desires . Politicians distinguish ; Inter rempub : constitutā & rempub : constituend : According to the severall natures whereof , Statists are to dispose of their Counsels and Ordinances . Were now the Rhemists and Romulists new hatched out of the shell , the former course of severity might soone bury their opinions with their persons ; But sithence the disease is inveterated , variety of Medicines is Judiciously to be applyed . The Romans did not punish all Crimes of one and the selfe-same nature with extremity of death ; For some they condemned to perpetuall Prison , and others they banished into an Island , or some remote Country , even in the case of Religion , they were very tender to dip their fingers in Blood ; For when Cato was Consul , and it seemed good vnto the Senate to suppresse with violence the disordered Ceremony of the Bacchanals , brought by a strange Priest into the City ; He withstood that Sentence , alleadging that there was nothing so apt , to deceive men as Religion ; which alwaies presents a shew of Divinity ; And for that cause , it behoved to be very wary in chastizing the professors thereof , lest any indignation should enter into the Peoples mindes , that somewhat was derogated from the Majestie of GOD . Others more freely , have not spared to place Religion ( J meane that Religion which is ignorantly zealous ) amongst the kinds of Frensie , which is not to bee cured otherwise then by time , given to divert or qualifie the fury of the Conceit ; Tantum Religio potuit suadere malorum ! Howsoever , in valuing the power of a city , or strength of Arguments , quality , and worth is to be preferred before number : Neverthelesse , where the uttermost of our force is not known , it imports much to have it conceived , that the multitude stands for us ; for doubts and suspitions cast in an Enemies way , evermore make things seeme greater , & more difficulty thā they are indeed ; we have by Gods mercy , the sword of justice drawne on our behalfe , which upon short warning , is able to disunite the secret Vnderminers of our quiet , we have a King zealous for the house of the Lord , who needeth not to feare lesse successe in shutting up of Priests , then our late Queen had in restraining them in Wisbich Castle ; where lest their factious spirits should grow rusty , they converted their Canker to fret upon themselves , and vomiting out gall in quodlibets , shewed that their Disease was chiefly predominant in the spleen . Whattempests they have raised in their Colledge at Rome , their owne bookes , and many Travellers can witnesse ; The storme whereof was such , that Sextus Quintus complained seriously of the vexation , which he received oftner from the English schollers , then all the Vassals of his Triple Crowne . And untruly is the Magistrate noted of negligence , or overmuch severity , that layeth waite to catch the Foxes , and the little Foxes , which spoile the Vinyard ; Though afterwards without further punishment , he reserve them to the day , wherein God will take account of their Stewardship . For if Aristotles City defined to be a society of men , assembled to live well , be the same , which in our Law hath reference to the maintenance of the poore in peace : so long as we taste of the sweet of a peaceable Government ; we cannot say , but that we live well , and that the City consisting of Men , and not of Walls , is happily guided . 8. An Oath is a weake Band to containe him that will , for pretended Conscience sake , hold no Faith with Hereticks , or by absolution from a Priest , thinketh himselfe at liberty to flye from any promise , or protestation whatsoever . Therefore when I remember , that Watsone the Priest , notwithstanding his invectives against the Jesuites , gained liberty to forge his trayterous inventions , and had others of his society in the complot : I judge it safer to make Recluses of them , then to suffer such to dally with us by Bookes , and some idle intelligences cast abroad onely , as a Mist to bleare our eyes : but how shall we find the meanes to apprehend those disguised Romanists , that borrow the shapes of Captaines , Marchants , Gentlemen , Citizens , and a●l sorts of people , and by equivocation , may deny themselves to be themselves ? In answer to this question , I will first shew the Reason , why they are not pursued and taken , and hereafter make an overture , how they may be boulted out of their Hutches . The Nature of Man , howsoever in hot bloud it be thirsty of revenge ; in a cooler temper , it hath a kind of Nausea , as I may call it , or a distaste of taking away of the lives , even of the Nocent : Insomuch that in all Assizes and Sessions , an offender can hardly be condemned , whom the foolish pitty of many will not after a sort excuse , with laying some imputations on the Judge , part on the Jury , and much on the Accuser ; and such is their blind affection , that the Prisoner who , perhaps , was never recommended for handsomnesse , will be esteemed of them , for one of the properest men in the company : from hence it comes , that the name of a Serjeant , or a Pursevant is odious , and the Executioner , although he be the hand of Iustice , is esteemed no better then an Enemy of Mankind , and one that lost honesty and Humanity in his Cradle . Reverend Master Foxe was wont to say , that Spyes accusers , where necessary Members in a Commonwealth , and deserved to be cherished , but for his owne part , he would not be of any of that number , or wish his friends to affect such impliments , and albeit that the Law permits and commands every man to apprehend a Fellon ; doe we not commonly see very many content to stand by and looke on , while others performe that office ? Likewise , it is evident , that if such as are tender of their reputations , be very scrupulous , personally to arrest men for civill actions of debt , they will be more unwilling instruments of drawing their bodies to the Racke , or the Gallowes ; especially when their is any colour of Religion to be pretended in their defence ; The diversity of mens faces is great , but the difference of their minds in this Case is more variable , wherein the meanest have thought as free as the highest , besides this , there are too many of the blind Commonalty , altogether Popish , though not reconciled Papists , who , in their foolish ignorance , will say , it is pitty any should dye for their Conscience , though indeed they make honourable amends for their Treason ; verily I know not , what misgiving of their mind ? it is , that maketh men forecast the possibility of alteration in matters of Religion , and for that respect , they are exceeding backward , in discovery and laying hands on Seminaries , yea , and are timorous , in enacting sharpe Lawes against them , as those that silently say among themselves , Sors hodierna mihi ; cras erit illa tibi : some also survive , who remember , that in Queene Maries time , the Protestants alleadged a Text , that the Tares should not be plucked up before Harvest : Nay , shall I speak a Bugges word ; there is no small number , that stand doubtfull , whether it be a gratefull worke to crosse Popery , or that it may be done safely without a sowle aspersion of Puritanisme , or a shrewd turn , for their labours at some times , or other : By which unhappy ambiguity it comes to passe , that these , Animalia amphibia , the Priests I mean , that prey on the soules and bodies of either Sex , unattached revell where they list , though they be no more seene , then a man dancing in a net . How much fitter were it for us couragiously to invite them to our party , by Preaching , or confuting them by writing , and unto the state wherein we stand , wisely to apply the exhortation of the Assyrian King to his souldiers , you are fooles ( quoth he ) if there be any hope in your hearts , to redresse sorrow , by flight , or rather endeavour to make them flie that are the causers of your griefe , assuring your selves , that more perish in flight , then in the battle , even as many seeking to meete the Papists halfe way , discomfort our owne party . 9. It followeth now , according to the Methode prescribed before , that an overture be made , how to get the Jesuites and their shaddowes , the Priests into possession : it hath bin heretofore recited , that the unwelcome name of a Blood-sucker , a Busiebody , or a Puritane hath bin shrewd scarecrowes unto many honest minds , by abrogating therefore of those or such like imputations , many will be stirred up to undertake the apprehending of the Adversaries unto the truth : especially , when for their paines and time imployed , they shall deserve , and have the titles of good Patriots , dutifull Subjects , and zealous Christians : how ready is every common person to carry a Malefactor to the stokes , rather then to the goale or Execution , and doubtlesse , they will be no lesse forward to attach a Priest when they are assured that the worst of his punishment shal be a simple restraint within the walls of some old Castle . A certaine kind of People there is , with whom mony playes a more forcible Orators part , then any perswasion of the dutifull service , which they owe to their Common-wealth : These men will not be negligent to give intelligence , and also to procure it faithfully provided , that reward may helpe to line their thred-bare purses , and exempt them from need to sell liberty unto Seminaries : and where assurance of gaine is propounded , for discovery what Master or Housekeeper will trust his servant with keeping of his Priest , or sleepe quietly while he is engaged to the danger of a Mercenary ? I remember , that in Italy it was often told me , that the bountifull hand of Sir Francis Walsingham , made his intelligencers so active , that a Seminary could scarcely stirre out of the Gates of Rome , without his privitie : which successe , by mediation of Gold , may as readily be obtained from Sivill , Valcdolid , Doway , Lovaine , Paris , and other places , and by forewarning given of their approach , they may be waited for at the Ports , and from thence , soone conveied to a safe Lodging . But whence shall the streame follow that must feed this bounty ? It is a doubt easily satisfied . If some thousands of pounds out of the Recusants penalties be reserved in stock , and committed by his Majesty into the disposition of zealous distributers , who will not be afraid to conclude Perdat fiscus ut capiat Christus : neither need we seeke any further succour to repaire decayed Castles , and therein to defray the charge of the Priests , with a sure guard to keepe them : then the foresaid forfeitures , that by the Justice of the LAVV may bee collected : which course , if ever it come happily to bee entertained , and that Recusancy cause to be an ignominous prey to the subjects , the proceedings for Religion shall be lesse blamed , and perhaps altogether unjustly accused , by any gracelesse , Gretzerus or Cacodaemon , Johannes , tincting their pennes in Gall , and vineger , For besides occasion of calumniation , given by suites of that nature , it is evident that many Recusants that would be indicted for the King , and the effecting of the project aforesaid , shall escape without punishment , and be borne out against the power of a private person , begging them to no other purpose , then hath heretofore bin used , and albeit the penalty be rated at xxl a moneth , yet was it never the Law-makers intent , that such as was not able to pay so great a summe , should goe scot-free . But that according to the proportion of their abilitie , they should doe the penance of their purses for their disobedience ; whereas now ( if the voice of the People , which is said to be the voice of God , is to be credited ) the poorer sort is skipt over , as if they ought no soules to God , nor duty to their Soveraigne , a poore man , saith one , is to be pittied , if he offend thorow necessity : but he doe amisse voluntarily , he is more severely to be chastised ; forasmuch , as wanting friends , and meanes to beare him out , it sheweth that his fault proceedeth from presumption . 10. Let us now presuppose that all the whole Regiment of Iesuites and Seminaries , were lodged in safe custody , may we then perswade our selves that Popery will vanish like a dumb shew ? I am cleerly resolved , that though it receive a great Eclipse , notwithstanding , without other helpes , the Kingdome of Antichrist will onely lye hidden as a weed , that seemes withered in winter , and is ready to sprout out with the Spring . Temporall Armes are Remedies serving for a time : but the Spirituall sword is permanent in operation , and by an invisible blow workes more then Mortall man can imagine . The word of God carryeth this two edged weapon in its mouth , which is to be vsed by faithfull Ministers of the Church , whom pure zeale , without respect to wordly promotion or persons , ought to encourage . Of Judges , the Scripture saith Estote fortes , and daily we see that sitting in their judiciall seates , God inspireth them with greater courage , then whē , as private Persons , they are to give their opinions : No lesse is the power of the holy Ghost in his servants , that out of the Pulpit are to deliver his Embassage . Let them therefore not be dismai'd to speak out plainly , and tell the truth without running a middle course betweene heate & cold . Unprofitable descanting upon the Scripture with an old Postell , or for want of better matter , waste the poore time shut up in an houre Glasse , with skirmishing against the worthy Pillars of our owne profession . Rumour which is ever ready to take hold of evill , hath raised a secret , though ( as I hope ) a causelesse suspition ; that there should be some secret combination under hand , by changing the state of Questions , to put us in our old dayes , to learne a new Catechisme ; and when they haue brought us out of conceit with the Reverend Interpreters of the Word , to use us then , as the Wolves ( mentioned in Demosthenes Apologie ) handled the Shepheards , when they had delivered up their Dogs . Most sacred was that Speech of our most gracious King concerning Vorstius ; he that will speake of Canaan , let him speake the Language of Canaan . How can we draw others to our Church ; if we cannot agree , where , or how to lay our Foundation ? Or how may we cleanse the Leprous Disease of dissension , which the Papists , which are least assured to themselves , and most doubtfull of their salvation , are not ashamed to ascribe unto many of us ? I would not have Ministers indiscreet , like Dogs , to bark against all , whether they know , or know them not . I like better the opinion of Aristotle , who adviseth those that stand in guard of a place , to be curst ; onely to such as are about to endammage the City . If Pursevants , and other civill Officers , would learne to keepe this rule , they might goe about their businesse , with much credit . The imagined feare of inviting the Romish faction , by force to deliver their ghostly Fathers out of prison , move me not a whit ; For I cannot believe , that they esteeme them at so deare a price , that they would runne the hazard , by freeing others out of hold , to put themselves into their places . some will say , that a man of straw is a head good enough for a discontented Multitude . That the Papists are very Cholericke , it appeares sufficiently by their writings : yet it hath pleased God to send those curst Cowes short hornes , that when they could not finde a man of sufficiency to serve their turne , they were faine to doe homage to Garnets straw ; forgetfull as they are , that such stubble cannot endure the tryall of fire ; but unto us , that ought to be doers , as well as Professors of the Gospell , let this remaine as a memorable Theoreme : Religion is the Mother of good Order ; good Order , is the cause of prosperous Fortune , and happy successe in all Counsels , and enterprises ; wherefore in what estate soever , their wanteth good Order , it is an evident Argument , that Religion goes backward . 11. I have ever held it for a kind of injustice , to omit the executiō of mean laws , made to prevent the effects of idlenesse , & then to apply main extremity of the sword , whē the proling habit gotten by the vice comes to light . No lesse is the course uncharitable ( with par-don for this presumption be it spoken , when wee spare them that have no Religion at all , and censure those that can give account of somewhat tending to that purpose . He that is in misery must be borne withall if he speak miserably , and when the child from his Mothers Brest hath suckt nothing but Popery , a man had need to be angry with discretion , if he heare him speake in the voyce of a Papist . God calleth some by miracle ; but the ordinary meanes in his Word : if that means , in many places of this Land be wanting ; of what Religion is it likeliest , the people will be ? I suppose , that few men will gainsay my assertion , that outward sense will direct them to Popery which is fuller of Pageants , then of spirituall doctrine . And what is the cause , that after so many yeares of preaching of the Gospell , that the common people still retaine a sent of the Roman perfume ? The cause is , for that the formall obedience of comming to Church , hath bin more expected , then the instruction of private families ; publique Catechising is of great vse , but the first elements thereof are to be learnt at home : and these , which we learn from our Parents , stick most surely in our minds . What was the cause why the Spartans continued their governmēt so many Revolutions of times , without mutations ? Histories record , that learning their Countrie Customes from their infancy , they would not be induced to alter them ; And in this our native soyle , we perceive that the common Lawes which relye on antient Customes , are better observed then late Statutes of what worth soever they be : so doth it fare with the poore People , which being once seasoned with the old Dregs of Papisme , will hardly be drawne from it : till the Learning of the true Faith be growne to a Custome . I will prescribe no order of aff●ires , to effect this ; But I suppose , that the antient laudable course by the Bishops confirmation , will not be sufficient to fulfill so great a taske ; the Ministers must and ought , to be the principall and immediate hāds to give assistance to so gratious a worke , and in case , any be defective in their duty , the Reverend Bishops may take notice thereof in their Visitations . Perhaps it will be thought a hard taske to constraine old People to learne the A. B. C. of their Christian Beliefe . But how hard soever it be , I hold it no incivility to prepare people of all Ages for the Kingdome of heaven . By the order contained in the Booke of Common prayer , on Sundayes and Holidayes , halfe an houre before the Evensong , the Curate of every Parish ought to examine Children sent vnto him in some points of the Catechisme , and all Fathers , Mothers , Masters , and Dames should cause their Children , Apprentises , and servants , to resort unto Church , at the time appointed : There obediently to heare , and be ordered by the Cutate ; untill such time , as they have learnt all that in the said Book is commanded : And when the Bishop shall appoint the Children to be brought before him , for their confirmation , the Curate of every Parish shall send or bring in writing , the names of those Children of his Parish , which can answer to the Questions of the Catechisme ; and there ought none to be admitted to the Holy Communion , untill such time as he can say his Catechisme , and be confirmed : many times I have stood amazed , to behold the magnificence of our Ancestors Buildings , which their Successors as this day are not able to keepe up ; But when J cast mine eyes upon this excellent Foundation : laid by the grave Fathers of the Church , and perceive their children neglect to build therupon : with exceeding marvaile , I rest almost besides my selfe . For never was their better Ground-plots laid , which hath bin seconded with lesse successe . It was not the hanging vp of the Bull of Pius Quintus on the Bishop of Londons doores , or the forbearing to hang vp Priests , that hath wrought this Apostasie : but the idlenesse , and insufficiency of many Teachers , conspiring with the Peoples cold zeale , that hath bin the contriver of this unhappy Web . Untill the xith . yeare of Queen Elizabeth's Raigne , a Recusants name was scarcely knowne : The reason was , because that the zeale , begotten in the time of the Marian persecution , were yet fresh in memory ; And the late Persecutors wat so amazed with the suddaine alteration of Religion , that they could not choose but say Digitus Dei est hic . In those dayes , there was an emulation between the Clergy and the Laity : and a strife arose , whether of them should shew themselves most affectionate to the Gospell ; Ministers hanted the houses of worthiest men , where Iesuits now build their Tabernacles ; and poore Country Churches were frequented with the best in the Shire . The Word of GOD was pretious , Prayer and Preaching went hand in hand together : untill Archbishop Grindals disgrace , and Hatfields hard conceit of prophecying , brought the flowing of these good graces to a still water : The name of a Papist smelt ranck , even in their owne Nostrills , and for pure shame to be accounted such , they resorted duly , both to our Churches and exercises : But when they saw their great Coriphaeus Sanders had slily pinned the name of Puritans , upon the sleeves of Protestants , that encountred them with most courage , & perceived that the word was pleasing to some of our own side , they took hart agrace to set litle by the service of God , & duty to their Soveraign , therwith start up frō among us , some that might have bin recommended for their zeale , if it had bin tempered with discretion , who fore-running the authority of the Magistrate , took upon them in sundry places and publikely to censure , whatsoever agreed not with their private conceits , with which crosse humours vented in Pulpits and Pamphlets , most men grieve to be frozen in zeale , and in such sort benummed , that whosoever ( as the worthy Lord Keeper Bacon observed in those dayes ) pretended a little sparke of earnestnesse , be seemed no lesse then red fire , hot in comparison of the other ; And as some things fare the worse , for an ill Neighbours sake , dwelling beside them , so did it betide the Protestant , who seeking to curbe the Papist , or reprove an idle Droane , was incontinently branded , with the ignominous note of a Precisian . All which wind , brought plenty of water to the Popes Mill , and there will most men grind , where they see apparence to bee well served . 12. If without great inconvenience the children of Papists could be brought up out of their company , it were a happy turne : But I find it to be full of difficulty ; There is provision made to avoid Popish Schoole-masters , but there is no ward against Popish Schoolemistresses , that infect the silly Infants while they carry them in their Armes , which moveth me to suppose that the former proposition to examine how Children and servants are brought up ; and truly to certifie the list of the Communicants , and Recusants , will be the readiest meanes to let his Majesty know the yearly increase or decrease of the church in every Diocesse : And whosoever shall send his children , or any of his Majesties subjects , to be placed in Monasteries , or Seminary Colledges , or Popishly to be brought up in sorraine parts : I thinke that for punishment both the one & the other , worthily might be disfranchised of the priviledges , due to natural English-men ; so far-forth , as any good by the Lawes may descend to them : But not to be exempted from the penalties thereof ; or the Regall jurisdiction of the Crowne . J know well that contradiction is odious , and makes a man seeme ambitious , to be thought more understanding then others . In which case , the Spanyard useth onely to terme him presumptuous , whom he would call Foole , if civility would beare it . But in my defence , I hope it shall suffice againe , to revive my former protestation , that Idiscourse by the way of proposition , rather then Arrogance of defining any thing : with pardon therefore , may I be permitted to say . That the first easie Law of xijd . inflicted on him that could not give a reasonable excuse , for his absence from Church or Sundayes , was one of the best Ordinances , that hath hitherto bin enacted . But while wee sought to make new Statutes , savouring of more severity , we neglected the old , and were loath to execute the new : For it is a certaine Rule , that whosoever in policy will give liberty , and yet seeme to suppresse a crime , let him procure sharpe Lawes to be proclaimed , which are onely necessary for some times , and rare occasions to be put in Execution ; but not to be an ordinary worke , for every day of the Weeke . Daily use likewise teacheth us , that it is lesse grievous to punish by an old Law , then by a new : Forsomuch , as Truth it selfe , seldome gets credit without proofe , and it is hard to free the people of suspition , that new Lawes are not rather invented against the particular persons and purses of men , then against the corrupt manners . By force of which reason , I am induced to conceive that the old use of the Church , contained in good nurture , and Ecclesiasticall censures will much more prevaile to muzzell Popery , then any fresh devises whatsoever . Neither doe J thinke it blame-worthy , to affirme that our cause hath taken harme , by relying more on the Temporall , then the Spirituall Armes . For while we trusted that Capitall punishments should strike the stroake ; we have neglected the meanes , which would , for the most part , have discharged the need of such severity . The Oath of Allegeance is not offered generally , to servants and meane People ; who if they had taken the Oath by absolution of a Priest , might recoyle from it , or change their opinion at leisure , without any ready meanes to discover their Leger-demaine : that Oath I feare will not bee often pressed , and to them that shift from place to place , how can it be tendered ? The principall Papists now cover themselves , in the crowde of the multitude : but if we can discover the affection of the multitude , they easily will be unmasked , and being singled out , rest ashamed of their nakednesse ; which under correction of better judgment , may be effected , if every new commer , to inhabit in a Towne , and servants newly entertained within a Weeke , or xiiij . dayes , be caused to repaire to the Minister , there in presence of the Churchwardens , and other honest men ; to subscribe unto such briefe and substantiall Articles concerning Faith , and Allegeance , as shall be according to Gods Word , and Justice , ordained to distinguish the sheepe from the Goates . In forraine Countries , every Host is bound to bring his Guest before an Officer ; there to certifie his name , with the occasion of his comming , & intended time of his abode in those parts ; and in case he stay longer , he must again renew his Licence , so curious and vigilant : also are they to keepe their Cities from infection , that without a Certificate , witnessing their comming from wholsome places , they may not escape the Lazeretto . No lesse ought wee to be watchfull to prevent the contagion of our Soules , then other Nations are of their bodies , every thing is hard , and scarcely pleasing in the beginning : But with time , some such course may be readily put in Execution : which I propound rather as matter for better heads , to worke on ; then peremptorily to be insisted on in the same Termes . But lest any charge me with Temerity ; that when I desire to know the multitudes inclination , by the meanes aforesaid : I satisfie my selfe with their Parrots Language , pronouncing it knowes not what : I thinke it not impertinent , to put them in mind , that heretofore I have required instructions , both precedent and subsequent ; and am ever of the mind , that though all this cannot be done at once ; yet it is necessary alwayes to be doing our best : knowing , that not to goe forwards in Religion , is the ready way to goe backwards . It is not the outward obedience of comming to Church , that discovers the inward thought of the heart : it is the confession of the Tongue that must utter these secrets . And where the Curates are insufficient , or the Parish great , I wish they had Catechistes to assist them , maintained by the Purses of the Recusants : which Pension being collected for Gods cause , will free us of scandall ; though it grieve them to pay the spirituall Army , waged against their owne Stratagems : surely by giving them way in petty matters , they are growne to be very masterfull in their party : Plato affirmeth , that the Popular state proceeded from the Licence , which the people took to make immoderate Applauses in the Theaters : when , as by arrogating that immunity , without contro ement , in place of their Governors , and perceiving the Nobility to joyne with them in the same passions , they thought their Heads as worthy to governe , as any of those that were made out of the selfe-same mould : In like manner , while we suffer ignorance openly to maintaine such petty glimpses of Popery , as are thought to be scarce worthy , to be look't at , and in small matters runne an indifferent course , which neither make sure friends , nor feeble Foes ; unawares they take the bridle from us , and eate out Religion , as it were by an insensible Gangrena . Principiis obsta , serò , medicina paratur . Cum malaper longas convaluere moras . For by sufferance of breaking smaller Lawes , People are emboldned to set the greater at nought . To comprehend all things in a Law , which are necessary to the Reformation , I neither hold it profitable nor expedient ; yet it is discretion to provide for the most important : smaller matters , whereof the Lawes speake not , are to be commended to the discretion of Parents , Masters , and other reverent persons , who by example and advice , may prepare younglings , by education and custome , to obey the Lawes : especially such as are in high place ought , in this behalfe , to be like Caesars Wife . Non solum crimine , sed etiam criminis suspitione vacare , and with circumspection to behave themselves ; that the world may conceive , in requiring obedience to God and their Soveraigne , that they hold the multitude rather for companions , then slaves : if great men take another way , they may seduce many by example ; though by Words they expresse not their concealed opinions ; Tace & loquere , said God to Moses , it is the speech of the heart , which utters more then words and syllables : And in our common Lawes , it is held maintenance , when a great Personage , onely by his presence countenanceth a cause . Neither let us secure our selves with this Argument : the Papists are plyable in small matters , ergo , they will yeeld in greater ; And because they tooke no Armes in 88. therefore it were needlesse curiosity to suspect them now : for who knowes not , that small baites are used to take the greatest Fish , vt cum esca una etiam hamus devoretur . Warinesse is the sinewes of Wisdome , and nothing is more dangerous , then to be secure in matters of State : Therefore for the Lawes already made , I wish that the most effectuall of them , which least concernes life , may be executed ; For better it were not to make them , then by neglect to set them at liberty ; seeing that many offences there are , which men would abstaine from , if they were forbidden , but when a strict commandement is avoided without punishment , therout springs an unbridled Licence , hardly to be reformed by any rigour . To conclude , I say freely , that who so endeth his dayes by a naturall death , he shall be subject to receive many mens doomes , for every particular offence ; But when for Religions sake , a man triumpheth over the sword , that one eminent vertue razeth out the memory of other errours , and placeth him , that so dyeth , in Paradice ; if common opinion may be lawfully vouched ; which glory having many followers , and admirers , awaketh even dull spirits to affect their footesteps , and to sell their lives , for the maintenance of the same cause : J need not envy the name of a Martyr to the Jesuit ; for his cause if it be rightly weighed , will blanch that title : but I desire to have all those Lineaments defaced , which may compound that counterfeit Image , in prosecuting of which purpose , if J have failed in my advice , and by confused handling intricated the question , J humbly request , that a wise mans verdit , may mitigate the heavines of yt censure . It is neither good to praise bad Counsels , because of their good successe ; nor to condemne good Counsels , if the Events prove not fortunate ; lest many be animated , to advise rashly , and others dishartned , to counsell gravely . Illi mors gravis incubat , Qui notus nimis omnibus , Ignotus moritur sibi . Senec. Trag. FINIS .