A preservative against the change of religion, or, A just and true idea of the Roman Catholick religion, opposed to the flattering portraictures made thereof, and particularly to that of my Lord of Condom translated out of the French original, by Claudius Gilbert ... Préservatif contre le changement de religion. English Jurieu, Pierre, 1637-1713. 1683 Approx. 402 KB of XML-encoded text transcribed from 108 1-bit group-IV TIFF page images. Text Creation Partnership, Ann Arbor, MI ; Oxford (UK) : 2008-09 (EEBO-TCP Phase 1). A46370 Wing J1211 ESTC R16948 11859358 ocm 11859358 49995 This keyboarded and encoded edition of the work described above is co-owned by the institutions providing financial support to the Early English Books Online Text Creation Partnership. This Phase I text is available for reuse, according to the terms of Creative Commons 0 1.0 Universal . The text can be copied, modified, distributed and performed, even for commercial purposes, all without asking permission. 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Keying and markup guidelines are available at the Text Creation Partnership web site . eng Catholic Church -- Controversial literature. 2007-07 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2007-08 Apex CoVantage Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2007-09 Emma (Leeson) Huber Sampled and proofread 2007-09 Emma (Leeson) Huber Text and markup reviewed and edited 2008-02 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion A PRESERVATIVE Against the CHANGE OF RELIGION : OR , A Just and true Idea of the Roman Catholick Religion , opposed to the Flattering Portraictures made thereof , and particularly to that of my Lord of Condom . Translated out of the French Original , by CLAUDIUS GILBERT , Batchelor of Divinity , and Minister of Belfast . LONDON , Printed by S. Roycroft , for Thomas Cockerill at the Three Legs in the Poultrey , 1683. TO THE Worshipful Soveraign , AND THE BURGESSES OF THE Borough of Belfast , AND To the Inhabitants thereof . Christian Friends , THis Learned Piece was lately brought to my Hand by a Signal Providence , in its Native French Dress . By the renewed perusal thereof ; I found it to be very Substantial and Seasonable , which made me willing to render it more useful , by Publishing it in our Vulgar Habit. It hath been found to be of singular Service in its Native Country , and may be so among us likewise , through God's Blessing . Whilst so many Thousand of our Neighbours Houses are daily Fired , it 's time for All to awake . The multiplied Persecutions of the Protestants in France , so causelesly renewed of late , should rowze up all Christians round about them . In such Infectious Times , a Choice ANTIDOTE should be valued and desired of All. Many Reasons might oblige me to recommend this Present to your View and Improvement : The choice Ingredients thereof were very Skilfully Composed , and Faithfully Dispensed by the Learned Author thereof . My Zealous Affections for all Your Prosperous Welfare , chiefly in Spirituals , and for the Common Interest of all Christians , have perswaded Me to this Publication , which I desire cordially to commend to the Blessing of the Most High , as becomes the Function and Relation of , Your Faithfully Devoted in the Lord Jesus , for the best Service , CLAVDIVS GILBERT . Belfast , July 3. 1682. THE CONTENTS OF THE ARTICLES Contained in this BOOK . ARTICLE I. GEneral Reflexions upon my Lord of Condom's Book , pag. 19 Article II. A General Idea of both Religions , p. 36 Article III. That we agree not about Fundamental Points , p. 45 Article IV. That the Worship forbidden of God , cannot terminate in him , p. 53 Article V. Of the Invocation of the Saints , p. 56 Article VI. Of Images and Relicks , p. 78 Article VII . Of Justification , and Merit of Works , p. 87 Article VIII . Of Satisfactions , Indulgences , and Purgatory , p. 101 Article IX . Of Sacraments in General , p. 115 Article X. Of the Eucharist , of Real Presence , and of Transubstantiation , p. 120 Article XI . Of the Adoration of the Host , p. 137 Article XII . Of the Sacrifice of the Mass , p. 152 Article XIII . Of the Retranchment of the Cup , p. 165 Article XIV . Of Holy Scripture , p. 176 Article XV. Of the Church , p. 182 Article XVI . Of the Pope , and of his Authority , p. 189 Article XVII . Of the Points which Monsieur de Condom hath forgotten ; Of the Worship in an Vnknown Tongue ; Of the Multitude of Ceremonies ; Of Masses without Communicants ; Of forced Celibat , p. 198 A PRESERVATIVE Against the Change of Religion ; OR , A just and true Idea of the Catholick Roman Religion , opposed to the flattering Portraicture , which is made thereof ; and particularly to that of my Lord of Condom . NEver were greater Efforts in France to effect what they call Conversions , and never was the Truth attack'd by so many Means , nor fought with so much Success . We see nothing else every where , but Scandalous falls ; therefore they that lay to heart their Salvation ▪ ought to be furnished beforehand against the Contagion of this ill Air , that reigns at this day . It 's time to awake when the house is burning ; and one may say , that if the Zeal of our Reformed in France be not kindled anew , they are next to the seeing the ruine of their whole Party . The Book of my Lord of Condom is one of the Means which is used with most Success , to delude those Spirits that are Wavering , and whereof the Piety is ill fixed . These Gentlemen have so high an Opinion of that Work , and of what it can do , that many Bishops cause it to be printed at their own Cost , and to be distributed within their Diocess to all considerable Protestants there . The Temptation is powerful , and the Method which my Lord of Condom hath used is dextrous , his Artifices are fine and delicate , and it is certain , that this Book is able to Corrupt the hearts of those that are inclin'd towards the World , and who are seeking out some Pretences to quit a Religion so cruelly attack'd . It is then needful , that all the World should be taught , that every one should keep his Guard well against such a Temptation . And as the Roman Church labours to spread my Lord of Condom's Book through all Europe , by causing it to be turn'd into all Languages , we must also disperse through them all the Answers opposed thereto . And when the Publick shall have found one , best liked , every Particular Person should furnish himself with a Copy thereof , that may be still at hand , and still read over , to be continually upheld against such a Temptation , as is never at an end , but is uncessantly still renewing . Ever since that Loss , which the Roman Church had in the beginning of the last Age of so many Millions of Souls , which did then separate from her Communion ; no Endeavours have been omitted to repair that Breach and no Means but have been employ'd to bring back into her Bosom such as have gone away from it . We must needs bear them this Witness , that never so much Ardor and Zeal was seen in any Enterprize ; never was a more serious and important Affair undertaken , than this design they have laid to hinder the duration and progress of That , which they call Schism and Heresie . It is indeed a design which cannot be blamed . If these Gentlemen are well perswaded , that the Religion , which we have abandon'd , is the only One , that may conduct unto Salvation : We may not wonder , if they labour to bring us back thereto , provided that they endeavour it in a good way , honestly , and by a Principle of Charity and true Zeal . But as it often happens , that in such a case Men prove the Cullies of their own hearts , and that Self-love , the Interest of the Flesh , and that of the World , do delude them ; all should well examine themselves in that regard , and not take it ill , that they that are concern'd therein be willing to have their part in such an Examination . We should not imagine , that all that which is called Zeal for Religion , and a design to convert Hereticks , should necessarily flow from a good Principle . On the contrary , God , for the Trial of the Faith of his Elect , hath almost always permitted , that false Religions have had more Zeal for the destruction of the True , than the True Religion for the ruine of the Falser . When Christian Religion became predominant , She did not do that for the ruine of Paganism , which had been done against her during the Reign of Pagan Emperours . It 's true , that true Zeal is always accompanied with Moderation , and false Zeal with Violence . So that in the Eyes of Flesh , the true faithful Ones do appear Luke-warm ; and the Euemies of Truth do pass for true Zealots . When Human Passions do mingle themselves in those Sentiments of Hearts called Religion , there is no Excess that they are not capable of . In respect of other Objects , in the midst of their greatest Transports they do reproach themselves secretly , which stops their fury , and steal away some part of their Impetuousness ; and chiefly when they are allay'd , and consider in cold blood their Conduct past , they do often accuse their own selves . But contrarily here , Passions do sollicite and animate themselves , they make Merit of their Violence , and believe that God and his Church are concern'd in their Justification ; because they imagine , that they have labour'd for the Truth . This is one of the Reasons why often Men believe , that they see but little Zeal in the true Church , while there is so much Fire in the Conduct of Them , that endeavour her Ruine . But we must needs grant , that there is something more . The Moderation of the Faithful doth not alway proceed from that Sweet Spirit , which is the very Genius of the Gospel : It comes often from the coldness of their Zeal ; God permits it to oblige us to adore in Silence the Mysteries of his Conduct , and to confound at the same time the Pride of Mans heart . We have much less Love for the Truth , than the World and the Devil have of Hatred against it . And whilst we act in the Establishment of Religion by a Principle , of Self-love , we have quite another kind of Ardor than when we have no other prospect than that of the Glory of God. The Church doth easily relent ; the fervour of the Zeal , which seeks the Conversion of Others , doth not last long . It is so hard a thing to seek for Salvation , that Men imagine they do enough to labour for their own , without charging themselves with the Care of Others . And we easily fall into those unhappy Thoughts , That God is good enough to do his own Business ; that he will have a care of his own Interest , and that he will not want Means to Convert them whom he hath destined to eternal Salvation . Whereas false Zeal doth hold it self up , doth persevere , and finds it self often more capable to endure greater Labours , than the true Devotion . It is a thing that confounds us : I grant it 's one of the great Temptations which good Souls are to overcome . But truly , it 's a Thing whereof it 's impossible to deny the Truth , if we have any thing of good Faith or Probity . Our Lord Jesus Christ himself doth teach us , that the Pharisees and the false Doctors of Judaism did compass Sea and Land to make a Proselyte ; and all their labours did conclude to render Him a Son of Hell , likes themselves . All those things do make me conclude , That the Zeal to make Conversions , is not always a certain Sign that the Truth is in that Party . It is a favourable Prejudice ; but after all it 's but a Prejudice ▪ and we should not suffer our selves to be conducted by those kinds of Lights , which are often deceitful . We must be permitted to examine , If the Zeal of Religion , which causes so many Emotions , be a Divine fire , or a Passion meerly Humane . Now we cannot better know the Nature of that Zeal ▪ which seeks for Conversions , than by the Means which it employs : for it 's an indubitable Principle , That true Piety never doth any ill , that good may come thereof . She seeks the Salvation of Men ; but she seeks it by ways that are just , lawful , and rational . I. First , It is certain that true Zeal doth never employ for Conversion the Sword , Fire , Violence and Torments . Those are ill Commentators of the Words of the Lord Jesus Christ , that make him to say , Compel them to come in , that is to say , Constrain them by Violence , and by the fear of Death , to enter into the Church , which is the Wedding Room . The Lord cannot suffer in that Wedding Room , any but such as are clad with the Wedding Garment , and which have a true and solid Piety : But those People which are brought into the Church by Fear and Threatnings , are Hypocrites and Impious Persons , which disrobe their Impiety to the sight of Men ; Rebels , which feign their Submission , meditate a Revolt , and which always bear the heart of an Enemy . The Church hath suffered many Persecutions , but never did execute any upon others . She overcame Paganism , as Paganism had overcome her before ; but she never did retaliate it . She did not use the Authority of Constantine and Theodosius , to defile the Temples of the False gods with the Blood of their Worshippers , as the Pagans had employ'd the Swords of Nero's , Maximius , Decius and Diocletian's to bathe the Earth with the Blood of Christians . One must be very ignorant in the History of the Church , not to know , that in all the Contests She had with the Arrians , Eutychians , and other Hereticks , She used only Exhortations , Reasons , Councils , and other such like Arms. Contrarily , the Hereticks have carried on their Fury against the living Temples of the Holy Ghost ; they have employed Sword and Fire , and established themselves , by the help of the Horrour and of the fear of Death , which their Arms did cast into Mens Souls . I know not if there be , at this day , in the Church of Rome any honest People , that do not behold those horrid Tragedies which have shed so much Blood in the Ages past ; but as so many Accesses of Fury and a phrentick Fever , during which , Christianity arm'd against it self , made it a pleasure and a duty to shed its own Blood , and thrust the cruel Sword into its own Bowels . If mens Souls be to be brought to Christ Jesus by Fear , it must be by the fear of Hell , and by the dread of Gods Judgments ; Knowing , saith St. Paul , the Terrour of the Lord we perswade men to the Faith , 2 Cor. 5. II. Hope is also one of the Ways whereby the Souls of Men are more strongly drawn . But to bring Men to Jesus Christ , no other Hope is to be given them , but that which the Lord himself gives them . One must promise them exactly what he hath himself promised them , that is , Eternal life ; these are the Rewards of Heaven . Whosoever shall forsake Father , Mother , Children , Wife , goods or house , he shall receive an hundred fold in eternal life . I find not that he hath presented any other Objects to Men to perswade them to come to him . All the World agrees , that nothing is more base , than to betray the Truth and ones own Conscience for Interest . Buy the Truth , and sell it not , saith the Wise man. I speak not only of those Truths which are of the highest import , and whereon depends Salvation ; I speak of Truth in general . It 's one of the richest Presents of Heaven , seeing it is to the Soul what Light is to the World ; and to renounce it for a base Interest , it 's to despise God that gave it us . It is to prefer willingly Darkness to Light ; it 's to merit , that God should cast us into a Reprobate sense , and deprive us of all knowledge of his Truth . Do what men can , they cannot but esteem slightly such as change their Religion for carnal Considerations , for a Charge , for a Pension , and for such like Preferments . It 's then clear , that it 's not honest to sollicite men to commit base and criminal Actions , for which they are afterwards slighted . Father Mainbourg doth rationally commend Paul the Third , who forbad Cardinal Contarin to give or promise any thing to the Protestant Divines , not willing that it might be said , that he had corrupted them with Mony , to bring them by so base a way to the Belief of the Church , which employs Means much more noble to convert the Strayers . It 's hard to believe , that this Author hath not in view some Persons nearer him , than Paul the Third , than Cardinal Contarin , and the Lutherans of the time past . The Roman Catholick in France , the Protestant in Holland and in England should never say , Your Religion is an invincible Obstacle to your Fortune ; nothing will be done for you whilst you are of that Religion . Methinks the Devil hath rendred this Conduct very suspicious , and Men should think it their point of Honour not to imitate him , and not to say as he , I will give thee the Kingdoms of the world , and their glory . III. It seems also to me , that it s but an ill Character in the Zeal that seeks Conversions , to be so indifferent in the Choice of People . It 's true that the Net of the Gospel Preaching gathers on the Sea-shoar all that is found within its compass , Dirt , Stones and Pearls ; but the Fisher-man makes his Choice ▪ he takes the Pearls , and throws the rest into the Water . The true Church doth inclose indeed enough of Prophane and ill Christians , whereof she cannot get rid , because they are born in her bosom . She hath no need to fortifie the ill Party , and increase it by receiving the Impious , the Libertines and worldly Professours , which do cast themselves into her Arms , only to recover the Reputation that they have lost , and upon design to procure themselves some Protectors against the Party , which they have dishonoured by their Crimes . The Spirit that should conduct men to Jesus Christ , is a Spirit of Purity and of Renunciation to the World ; for the Lord saith , If any will follow me , he must deny himself . I think therefore , that the true Church should never open her Arms unto such , who have always distinguished themselves by a life full of Disorders , unless she may have good assurances that they will renounce Crime as well as Errour . And to be assured of that , there must be a long Trial. I know well what is said and thought about it . It 's true , say they , that by these sorts of Conversions we augment not the Number of the Saints , but we lessen that of the Hereticks : In diminishing their Number , they may happily be brought one day to be ashamed of their Singularity . Their Multitude helps to make them Heady ; they perswade themselves to be in the right , because they see themselves to be many , who report it so one to another . These ill Converts , say they again , have Families to be saved , they have Children that may be made good Christians ; the Stock is naught , but the Branches may be sanctified . Whoever Reasons after this manner , be he Catholick Roman or Protestant , assuredly reasons but badly . Although these kinds of Reasoning were not altogether delusions , yet must it needs be granted , that they are Maxims of a Politick purely human ; for indeed , the Spirit of Christianism doth not commit a present Evil for the prospect of a future Good. He abhors Vice and Crime ; he would not be beholding to it for the Salvation of many Souls , though it could be the very occasion of saving some . The Church casts all those dead Carkasses on the Shoar , far enough from receiving them into her bosom , under whatsoever pretence . IV. In fine , Sincerity and good Faith are , in my Judgment , an inseparable quality of true Zeal . The Prince of Darkness often transforms himself into an Angel of Light ; but never doth an Angel of Light take the form of the Prince of Darkness . Falshood often abuses the Truth to support it self ; but Truth can never make any good use of Falshood . This is to borrow the Devils Weapons for to fight for Jesus Christ , and that cannot have any good success ; for there is nothing common between Christ and Belial . It 's true , that pious Frauds are no New things : Of a long time have Miracles been fained , Oracles supposed , and Books published under the Names of Authors , who were known to have some weight with those whom they had a design to convert . It 's that which hath given birth to the Oracles of the Sybils , to the Books of Mercurius Trismegistus , and to the false Visions of the Pastor , and to so many other Deceits , contrived with a good Intention . But this Conduct , though it be ancient ▪ is not therefore become better by growing old : Never will Deceit prescribe against Probity and good Faith. It will always be true , That a Zeal which deceives Men to convert them , is a Zeal that is false ▪ ignorant , and misunderstood . There is hardly any kind of Deceit which is not practised to fortifie ones own Party , and to diminish the opposite Party : But here is that which is most ordinarily used , and with less Secrecy . It 's that on one side , they paint out the Religion , which they would combat , with colours most black and hideous ; they render it monstrous , that it may cause horrour ; they dissemble what Good it hath , they exaggerate what it hath of Evil ; they give a Criminal Character to all its Expressions ; they make Heresies of all Tenets ; they ascribe to it what it doth not hold ; they disguise , with the hue of Infidelity , what it holds . On the other part , they fairly colour the Religion , whereof they undertake the defence ; they draw the Curtain on that , which might scandalize it ; they give an air of Innocency to their most criminal Practices ; they cover with fair Names the foulest Things . It 's a kind of discredit whereof each Party accuses the opposite Party : the Roman Catholick accuses the Protestant , and the Protestant accuses the Roman Catholick . It 's a Process that one cannot decide , but by examining to the bottom , to see who is in the wrong , and who it is that imputes or imputes not . As I do not here pretend to be uninterest'd , being a declared Protestant , I make no difficulty to pronounce , that our Side is alone in the good Faith ; yet will I not be believed upon my Word : But the thing is so clear , and so well known of all the World , that I could suppose it , without taking the pains to prove it . They have black'd Us with the most horrid Imputations , and it 's a case of so great notoriousness , that I know not whether it be possible to deny it . There is no Heresie whereof they would not render us guilty : They have said , that with Arrius we deny the Eternity of the Son and his Deity ; that with Nestorius we establish two Persons in Jesus Christ ; that with Eutyches we confound his two Natures . They are two opposite Heresies , and which cannot subsist together . It matters not , all is well enough , if we be but calumniated . Hath not Bellarmine made a Preface to his Book de Christo , expresly to prove , that we are Nestorians , Sabellians , Arrians and Eutychians ? Hath not Gregory of Valencia made a thick Book , de Unitate & Trinitate , against the Lutherans and the Calvinists ? asserting , that the Lutherans are truly of the Opinion of Servetus , and that the Calvinists deny the Divinity of Jesus Christ ? And doth not Father Cresset say but newly , That we hate the Virgin , because we hate her Son ? In regard of Free Will , they would have Us to be in the Party of the Manichees , who said , That Men were by their Nature determined to good or to evil , and that they are not carried thereto by Choice and by Will. In regard of Good Works , they attribute to Us the horrid Opinion of the Gnosticks , that said , That the Spirital man may plunge himself into the most abominable Crimes of the Flesh , without fear of the least Pollution , or any Condemnation . They say , That we deny the necessity of Good Works to Salvation ; that we make a vile Sinner , after a small act of Faith and Repentance , as just as the Holy Virgin ; that we make Men to be Just by the Righteousness of another , as if we should make a black Stuff to be white with the whiteness of another Stuff ; that we do cloath our Just man with an imputed Justice , under which are hid the most horrid moral Impurities ; that we lead men to Salvation by the way of Crimes , Murthers , and Adulteries ; that we render the effects of Predestination infallible , like the Mahumetans ; so that a Man Predestinate living like a Devil , cannot fail to become happy like an Angel. That we would have an Adulterer , a Fornicator , yea a Man guilty of the Vilest disorders , may be as assured of his Salvation as Jesus Christ ; that our Lord Jesus Christ despaired that he was damned ; that we are Enemies to the Saints . In fine , Who could number all the Calumnies wherewith they load us , to render us odious ? That is but a small part thereof . And the most terrible of all , it 's that though we justifie our selves never so often , and tell them we abhor all those Heresies , that we detest them , that we combat them ; though we explain our selves never so much , and declare that the Words so abused are taken in a Counter-sense ; though we cry out against the Calumny , protest our Innocency , formally reject all the Consequences imputed to us ; that comes to nothing , and they still return to the like again . We must needs be Hereticks at any rate , and they repeat against Us this day all those Calamities , with the same air of Confidence as if we had nothing to answer thereto , or had never answered the same . We should more easily bear with those Excesses , if that we had none to complain of , but those small Declaimers , who do harangue on Shop-boards , and who preach in the Markets , from the Steps of a Cross . If those Outrages were done Us , but by those little Scribes , who are void of Science , Name , Spirit , Honour and Conscience , whereof the World is full . But it 's impossible not to lose our Patience , when we see Authors that are grave and able , learn'd and famous , compose great Volumes ▪ whereof all the Pages are soiled with those black Slanders , whereto we have answered an hundred times . When we cannot blame Ignorance and Insufficiency , we cannot but complain of unsincere dealings , and say , that such a Course is not honest . It 's an inseparable Character of the false Church ; Hereticks have always dealt thus with the Orthodox . They have still calumniated them , and have disfigured by their Imputations the purest and holiest Doctrines ; we need but to have read a few of the Holy Fathers to be assured thereof . But the true Church was always most tender of Sincerity ; She would never slander her Adversaries , and would never disjoyn Zeal from fair dealing . Here is another kind of foul dealing , that appears less Criminal ; it 's that which flatters Religion , whereof she draws the Picture ; which dissembles her deformities and gives an air of Innocence and Purity to all . This Artifice seems to be innocent , every one should be permitted to make himself known by his best sorts , and shew its fairest side . And this is a Method , that hath been extreamly used for some years of late for to defend the Roman Church . There are two ways of defending her ; one is , in rejecting the Manage of Policy , in using the most ordinary and common Expressions : In saying , for Example , That part of Religious Worship is due to Saints , that they may be invok'd as Intercessours with God , as they to whom God hath given under himself the Government of the World ; that Temples may be built , Fasts appointed , celebrate the Sacrifice of the Mass to their Honour , make Vows to them , and yield to them part of all that which may be called Religion ; So speaks Vasquez ; that the Sense of the Catholick Church , confirm'd by Tradition and perpetual Use , is , that there is due to Saints a Sacred Adoration . In saying , that one may ask of them whatever is ask'd of God , Health , Protection , Remission of Sins , Salvation , Grace and Glory : So that we pray not to them , as to the first Authors of these Graces . In saying , that one must reverence , adore and salute the Images of the most holy Virgin Mother of God , of the glorious Angels , and of all the Saints ; and that all those that are not of that mind ought to be Anathematized . In saying , That the Sacrifice of the Mass is a true Sacrifice , and so called properly ; that it 's not a simple Commemoration of the Sacrifice of the Cross , but a Propitiatory Sacrifice , which is offered for the Pains , for the Satisfactions , and for other Necessities of the Faithful . In thundering out which Anathema's against all that would not receive those Propositions and all others in the very Sense of the Church . There is a second Manner of defending the Opinions and Practises of the Roman Church , that is , in sweetning them : In saying , for Example , That the Worship of Saints is Nothing , at the bottom ; that Invocations addressed to them are not of another Natnre , but such as are made to living Saints , when we recommend our selves to their Prayers : That the Scandal taken from the Worship of Images is a Scandal ill taken ; that at the bottom , they are set in the Church but for the use of Commemoration ; that human Satisfactions are no prejudice to those of Jesus Christ ; because they serve only to apply the Satisfaction of Jesus Christ . The first Method was in this regard in the way of very fair dealing ; but at this day things are very much altered ; the first Method hath not been found significant , therefore the second is now taken up ; yet have they not universally renounced the former . Italy , Spain , and most part of Germany , and even of France , either know not or relish not these Sweetnings . Those that are grown old in the old Opinions , do also respect the ancient Expressions as Consecrated , and find it not difficult to use the Politicians as Prevaricators . I wish they would observe these considerable Words of Father Mainbourg in his History of Lutheranism : These pretended Expositions of the Faith which suppress or dissemble , or express in ambiguous Terms only , or too much sweetned , a part of the Doctrine of the Church , do satisfie neither the one nor the other , which do equally complain , that Men do mince it in an affair so delicate as Faith is , where Men cannot fail in one point , but that they must fail in all . We understand well what he would say , and whom he aims at ; it 's neither at Cardinal Contaren , nor at the Authors of ancient Enoticks ; it 's to those that do Byass it at this day ▪ in their Expositions of the Catholick Faith. Father Mainbourg writes like an honest Man ; he is most able , and hath the right Sense of things . There are then able and honest Men in the Roman Church , who disapprove these ways of Sweetning , and dare to say and to print it : But there are others that think to prosper better in the Conversion of those whom they call Hereticks , in stripping the Roman Church of all those terrible Images wherewith others have cloathed it . Happily they may be of the same Apprehension with the others , but they judge it good to express themselves otherwise , to bring nearer again those Spirits , which they had scared by their hard Manners . Yet would I believe , that among those moderate Persons , there are many that do deal fairly , that would willingly have things as they express them ; who , if they were believed , would reduce the Worship of Images to a little matter , and would accommodate themselves in divers respects to the Weakness of those , whom they consider as separate from the Church . I believe the Author of the Saving Advises of the Virgin Mary to her indiscreet Devotes , is of this Order ; and I doubt not but he hath many Approbators . But though he had infinitely more , that alters nothing at the bottom . The Roman Church remains still the same in her Worship , in her Canons , and in her Dogma's . Among all those Works , which have for their aim the Sweetning of things , and to lead Christians into a Spirit of Reconciliation , there 's none more famous than the little Book of my Lord of Condom , that hath for Title , Exposition of the Catholick Doctrine about Matters of Controversie . There was never any Work , whereof the Author and his Party have made more boast , especially since it 's fortified with the Approbations of Rome . They look thereon , as on the triumph of the Roman Church , and they pretend that those changes of Religion , that are at this day sufficiently ordinary , and which they call Numerous Conversions , are the effects of my Lord of Condom's Method . I grant that I am not able enough to enter into the Merit of that piece ; I see nothing therein but what was written long ago . My Lord of Condom hath not been the first , who hath essay'd to disguise the Doctrine of the Roman Church . It 's more than fity years since that this Method of Sweetning hath been used to draw Men ; and though it had not been printed , it 's certain that it hath been used an hundred times by word of Mouth , and face to face . Except the delicate Dress , the sweet and insinuating Manners of my Lord of Condom , and some bold Propositions in the Subject of Images ; I see nothing there of his own , nor that should have gained him so many Approbations . Notwithstanding mens Spirits are so affected , till labour be taken to recover them from it . The Roman Catholick considers this Book as the Buckler of his Faith , and the mighty Instrument of Conversions ; and the Protestant looks thereon , as on a Ghost , whereof he dreads the Illusions . I am deceived if it be so dreadful as men imagine . All its St eagth consists in disguising things from us , and making us to behold them in another face . Therefore there is need only to make that appear in its Natural state , which he doth represent through a Veil to us . That Work hath been Answer'd most learnedly and solidly , and if I had no other design but that of Answering it , I believe I should not trouble my Pen about it ; but here I much less purpose to Answer my Lord of Condom , than to make a Book opposite to his . All that Art and dexterity can imagine to engage those of our Religion to embrace his own , is sprinkl'd through his Book ; and I will put into mine what I believe most capable to preserve them from the peril whereinto he would cast them . My Lord of Condom presents his Religion to us under a Veil , which he hath composed by an extraordinary effort of Spirit . He would have Us to behold her only through that Veil . But he may take it well , though we have not that complaisance for him , because it might be fatal to our Salvation . I will therefore draw this Veil , paint out the Roman Religion according to Truth , whereto nothing can be reproached , and shew it in its Natural complexion . This is , in my mind , the best Preservative that we can give our People ; and particularly it 's of absolute necessity to ruinate the Design of my Lord of Condom . Without having precisely a design to combat him , yet will I fight him every where ; because I shall meet him every where , and will be obliged to take off the Veil which he hath spread upon the Worship and the Dogma's of his Church ; I will bind my self also to follow his Order , because he hath nothing but what is natural enough . One may easily judge , that the Affairs whereinto I chuse to enter , is a question of Fact purely ; I will not engage my self to the discussion of the Right . I do not enquire here , which hath best Reason , whether the Roman Church , or the Protestant ; it 's enough to know what is taught both in the one and in the other Religion , and not at all whether it be ill for either of them to teach so . Therefore will I forbear proving , and will not so much as touch those Proofs that my Lord of Condom brings in for his own Party . But before we enter into the particulars , I believe it fit we should make some general Reflexions . ARTICLE I. General Reflexions upon my Lord of Condom's Book . FIrst , To know a Book well , we must enter , if possible , into the Spirit of it , and see within what prospect it hath been composed . The Work , now in hand , is one of those that hath been produc'd by the design of reuniting the two Religions in France , a design which some great Ones had busied their Head about . All the World knows the several Advances that have been made thereto by some particular Persons . They of the Protestant Party , which have entred into this Proposition , had concluded that it might be done , either by way of Accommodation , in obliging each of the Parties to yield some things ; or by way of mutual Toleration ; that is to say , That without leaving their places , they might consider one another with Charity , and should not damn one another with full authority , as is done . These two Methods did not at all please the Roman Church ; that is not it which She demanded . She could not take the first way , which is that of Accommodation , and of mutual Relaxation ; for according to her Principles , being Infallible , she could not relax any thing , but she must relax some Truths , which thing Honour and Religion permitted not . The second Party did please her much less ; by that Way all things had remained in the state wherein they are , both the Religions would haye joyned hands , but would not have been confounded nor reunited : The Protestant would have considered the Roman Catholick as his Brother , serving one God in a manner somewhat different ; but yet would have continued Protestant . I cannot blame those Gentlemen for despising that Proposition that cannot accord with Piety . But I find it a surprizing thing that rejecting these two Ways of Reunion , they have proposed us another , which is much more strange . For to reunite , say they , we must necessarily return to make up One and the same Body , to have the same Assemblies , participate of the same Sacraments , and live under the same Pastours . But towards that , it 's not necessary to change any thing in the Religion and Worship of the Catholicks ; We must only make the Protestants comprehend , that they were to blame to regard the Dogma 's and the Worship of the Church , in that sort , wherewith they have regarded it hitherto . We must perswade them that those great Spaces , that divide the Catholick from the Protestant , are the only effects of mistaken Imagination , that at the Bottom we are all near one another ; that there are only some Mistakes ; that we teach not what they believe us to teach ; that our Worship , which seems so opposite in the Service of one only God , is nothing of what it appears to be ; that those Appearances , though they seem to be so cross one to another , are nevertheless at the bottom the most innocent in the World. And that being done , those Gentlemen must reunite in returning to the Church ; there is nothing more facile . This is a strange manner of Reuniting . When two opposite Parties are reunited , Composition is made , each one ▪ yields of its Rights . Here they would have Us to give all , and they would grant us nothing . Not that We had been capable of suffering our selves to be tempted by Propositions of Accommodation , and of mutual Relaxation . The Roman Church , on her Principles , will never make such Propositions with sincere purpose . And though she should make them in earnest , she would find them impossible in their Execution . The Gallican Church hath no right to treat for the Roman Church , nor to relax for her , while she remains tied to the Chief of that Roman Church . That which We would ask in that Treaty , is that which will never be granted Us ; for we must not dissemble , we would not have a Demy-Reformation ; we would have them renounce that , which they consider as Essential and Capital . It 's true , that the manner of Reunion , which those Gentlemen have imagined , is of all the most commodious thing for their Church ; but we look on it , as the worst of all Evil , for Ours . After all the Advertisements of my Lord of Condom , I would fain know what is more safe now for Us in the Roman Church , than what was when we first did come away from her ? Do not all things persevere therein in the same State ? Do we see there the Temples filled with Images , and Men prostrating themselves before them ; their Vaults resounding with the Invocation of Creatures , Adorations rendred to that which we know not to be God ? Is it then enough to say to us , That we did not understand our selves ? You have thought we should say that , and we would say quite another thing : Understand us well , and come in again , and you shall see that at the Bottom we are not far distanc'd one from the other . Surely , we must be very weak and very base to fall into that Snare , to renounce that Grace , which hath cost us so much Blood ; to forsake the Faith of our Ancestors , which they have established with so much labour , so much sweat and watching , and whereto we have hitherto sacrificed our Repose , our Fortune , and all our Worldly Interests . Either we had no reason to come out forth from the Roman Church , or there is no reason to invite us to return thither , without having brought in any change into the same . To change Expressions and the manner of speaking of Things , is to change nothing at the Bottom . Let them call the Service of Images , Invocation of Saints , the Worship of Reliques , with what Name they will , it s still the same thing . Let them put new Colours to the Adoration of the Eucharist , it will still be the Adoration of that which we do call a Simple Creature . So that we must needs come to the Bottom thereof to know whether we have reason . I cannot forbear to add another Reflexion to that former . The Sweetnings of these Gentlemen do tend to make us see , that we deceive our selves when we were perswaded , that we were far distanc'd one from another , and that our Debates are grounded upon our misunderstanding ; that we agree in the Foundations , and that the rest are but few small things . It 's upon this Supposition , that they exhort us to leave our Party to return to Theirs . But upon what Right do they make this Proposition to us ? I will suppose that what they insinuate be true , that there be but a little Space between them and us ; Might we not then say to them , Well Sirs , Come to us , traverse those little Spaces ; there is no further distance from You to Us , than from Us to You. It cannot be more difficult for you to pass this Way , than for us ; Why must we our selves pass all the Advances ? Methinks I hear them cry out thereupon and say , What Insolence ! Have we not the Possession ? We are the Church . You are gone out from the midst of us . It 's your part to return . You are the Innovators . You are but a handful of People , who have the boldness to oppose your selves to Millions of Men , and you would have those Millions of Men to come to you ? Is it not more just you should go to them ? There was no farther distance from the Donatists to the Catholicks , than from the Catholicks to the Donatists : But suppose that the Heat which animated both Parties had been quenched , that they cleared themselves , that they had acknowledged , that the question was only but about matter of Fact , or their Controversies but of little Importance . The Donatists , upon that discovery , had but unhandsomly said to the Catholicks , Return to us , that will be as commodious as if we our selves should come to you . I am very sensible that this will be their Thought . These Gentlemen say , that they are in Possession . It 's true , among other things , they are in Possession to suppose as certain that which is in dispute . They are the Church . It 's that whereof we agree not . If they were the Church , and that Church sound and entire , we would not be so unreasonable , to propose it them for to come to us . The Church of St. Augustine was the true Church ; that of the Donatists was in Schism . If they had perswaded us , that which they assay to prove these many years , that we are Schismaticks and Hereticks , they would then have reason to invite us to make all these Advances , and we should be in the wrong to expect them without moving our selves . We are not Innovators , we are Restorers of the Apostles Religion . We have the advantage of Antiquity of Doctrines and Worship ; in comparison whereof , Antiquity of Churches , of Edifices , of Chairs and Episcopal Seats , is nothing at all . We are in a perfect Conformity with the Scripture , and the Church Apostolick ; that is better , than Conformity with the Church of the Tenth Age , and the following . The Question then here is only of Fact thus , for if we hold the Apostles Doctrine , it s certainly their part who have forsaken it , to return to us . Time cannot prescribe against Truth . It 's in vain to say , They have for Title a long Possession . The more ancient that such Wandrings are , the worse they are . But that cannot take from us the right of solliciting those People to return . Besides , it would be more easie for those Gentlemen to return to us , than for us to joyn to them ; for we should not oblige them to any thing that would be against their Conscience , seeing we adore only what they adore . But we cannot go to them , whilst they do serve that which we cannot serve . If this Worship of Images , this Invocation of Saints , this Adoration of the Eucharist , are so little a thing ; and if that should not hinder us from Joyning to them , why do they not abandon that little Thing , which scandalizes us so greatly , and which we reckon to be much ? Is nothing to be done for Charity ? Should not Men renounce their own Interest , when it s but inconsiderable , for our Neighbours Salvation ? I pretend not that these Reasons will perswade those Gentlemen to abandon their Party and enter into ours ; Nor that they are capable of doing it . So great a Business is not dispatch'd in so little time : But it may give us to understand , that we have as much right as they to ask for a Reunion , without obligation to change any thing ; and that all those By-ways , which have been invented within this little time ; some while Ways of Prescription , then Ways of Prejudices or Prejudgments ; then Ways of Sweetning are all Ways of Illusion , which only hinder us from Treating of the Business to the bottom , and from entring into the particulars of the Controversies . Because those Gentlemen do not find it commodious to keep that right Method , which hath been used hitherto , they are searching indirect Ways . I do not hope , that those Sweetnings of my Lord of Condom , and of his Followers , will do any great thing for the general Peace of Christianism , and for the Repose of particular Persons . Yet I cannot but. Essay , to get some little Advantage from it by the by Assuredly , we should be thankful to my Lord of Condom for his Book . Though it should not produce that effect which he hopes for from it , to wit , the Reunion of both Religions into one One ; at least , naturally it should produce some Peace between both Parties . Till now , the Roman Catholick and the Protestant have almost considered one another , as the two Antipodes of the World Christian . At this day they labour to make them return from thence . To make our Spirits reapproach , they give us Explications tending to make us see , that we are not at such a distance as Men were perswaded of . These Explications of my Lord of Condom , that do reapproach in some parts his Doctrine to ours , do also without doubt cause to reapproach our Doctrine to his . If Disputes can be annihilated by the Explications of some Terms ; If our Doctrine be not far distant from that of the Roman Church , and do not hurt the Foundation as is insinuated ; Why then is it made a Phantasm to the People , Why then are Men arm'd against us ? Why so much abhorring for those Men , that do not Sin , but in that they understand not the Doctrine of the Church ? Why are the Powers arm'd , and the Arm of Flesh ? Why have heretofore Floods of our Blood been drawn out ? Why do they cast on us frightful Names of Hereticks , and Excommunicate , damned Synagogues of Satan , and Organs of the Devil ? Methinks , if Men do but deal in good earnest , after those Sweetnings men should have a little Sweetness for us ; or if they continue that rigorous and severe Method against us , it seems to be a proof , that these Sweetnings were not made with a Spirit of Sincerity , but only with a design to procure an Illusion to the Ignorant , and to furnish Pretences for those that do seek their Conveniences in the World. This is a little advantage , which might accrue to us from my Lord of Condoms Book , if those of his Party would but be of his mind : but I will draw another much more considerable . It 's , that at the bottom there was never a Book more favourable to the Protestants . If we do but consider well the Shape , which my Lord of Condom gives to all the controverted Articles , this is not a defence of the Dogma's of the Roman Church , it 's not an Apology , it 's properly an Excuse ; it 's a Palliative Book , if I may so speak . Now every man that excuses a Fact , a Doctrine , or an accused Person , by that it self confesses there is some Evil ; he only tries to make good , that the Evil is tolerable . This is that whereto my Lord of Condom doth visibly lead us . With all his delicate Manners , and his Spiritual modelling , every Person uninterest'd will conclude , that he hath felt some Evil to be within that Church , whereto he would have us Reunite ; and that his Design is only to insinuate , That this Evil is tolerable , and that it ought not to hinder our Re-union . Methinks this appears therein easily , by a little attention given thereto ; for Example , if we believe my Lord of Condom , An Image hath no other virtue , but that of recalling the Memory of the Original ; there is properly no kind of Homage rendred to it , only Men do serve the Original in the presence of the Image . Is not that neatly enough to confess , That they that go beyond it are most guilty ; that there is no reason to say , That Men must adore Images ; that there is no reason to fasten any virtue thereto ; to imagine , that an Image of our Lady doth more Miracles than another ; that its blame worthy to carry them about in pomp , to prostrate ones self before them , to place them on Altars , to make Vows and Pilgrimages to them , and to bu●n Incense to them , as formerly they did to the false Gods ? If Invocation of Saints be done in the same Spirit , as the Prayers which we present to the Faithful alive to pray for us : It 's to accuse all those who do Invocate the Saints in another Spirit . After all that , I demand of those Gentlemen , Why they do seek for an Extraordinary Turn ? That which they had used hitherto , either was good , reasonable , and proper to give just Idea's of the Doctrine of the Roman Church ; or it was not so . If it was not , reason it is they should take another . But how can it be , that for so many years they have defended the Roman Church , by so many Works , without finding the proper Turn , to give a just Idea of her Doctrine ? It 's a blindness of the preceding Doctors hardly to be conceived . It 's a good hap for my Lord of Condom to have first found out the true sense of the Doctrine of the Church , whereof one cannot suspect the cause . But if the Turn , which my Lord of Condom hath found out , is different ; in that thing it self that it's different from others , doth it not condemn them ? If that which he saith to us be the only true Sense of the Church , all other Senses which Doctors have given it are false Senses , and consequently he condemns all those that have not spoken like him . Without doubt , my Lord of Condom will say , It was not his design to say any thing new ; that his Explications of the Doctrine of the Church are the Sense of the Canons , of the Councils , and of the decisions of the Doctors . But if he pretended not to say any thing Extraordinary , whence then comes the great Noise which those Gentlemen have made of that Work ? Can they look for so great Honour from a Thing , that should have been said by all other Authors ? Whence is it , that they have begg'd Approbations from all parts of the World ? That they put amongst those Approbators , Cardinals , Bishops , yea the Pope himself ? For a thing which all the World had said , should there be need of so mony Props , seeing it could not be combated nor question'd ? Why doth my Lord of Condom , at the end of his Work , shew , that he would not have us examine the different Means , which the Catholick Theologues have used to establish , or to clea● up the Doctrine of the Council of Trent ? If he be agreed with the Doctors of his fide , hath he cause to fear lest we should compare his Senses with theirs ? And is it not clear , that he confesses thereby , that he stands in great opposition to them ? If my Lord of Condom hath brought to light but the true and ancient Sense of the Church , why doth he say at the end of his Book , that he hath ruined all Disputes ? for that is it which these words signifie , [ For to s y on this Treatise something solid , &c. they must shew that this Explication leaves all Disputes in their intire state . ] He pretends then , that his Explication must make all Disputes to cease . I do not believe , that he pretends thereto by the force of the Reasons , whereby he hath upheld his cause . For a little Book that only explains , and which doth not prove , cannot cause Disputes to cease by way of Discussion . If it were true , that the Sense which my Lord of Condom doth give , is the Sense of the Roman Catholick Church , that it should be received by both Parties , and that it would not leave Disputes in their whole state ; it were true also , that it would be some thing which the gravest Authors had not yet perceived . For hitherto , all the Divines of the Roman Catholick Church have verily believed , that the Controversies about Images , Invocation of Saints , Indulgences , Satisfactions , were intire Disputes and most real . The Council of Trent hath without doubt believed so ; for if their Sense had been that which my Lord of Condom gives , and that it 's a Sense which leaves not Disputes whole , why hath it pronounc'd Anathema's against the Lutherans and Zuinglians , about things , whereof it's decisions made all Disputes to vanish ? Let 's deal truly ; Did not the Council fulminate and condemn those People ? They did not then believe , that the Sense of their Canons could easily be reconciled with the Doctrine of Zuinglius and of Luther . Besides that , I do not well conceive how my Lord of Condom can defend himself , for having brought to light a Sense that was unknown to all that have Written , and to the Prelates of the Council of Trent themselves . Without doubt those Prelates pronounced Oracles without understanding them , and more than an Age after an Interpreter is come , who hath discovered that which the Holy Spirit had hitherto kept secret . But it imports not , whether my Lord of Condom be the first or only Man that hath understood the Council of Trent , to the Exclusion of the Council it self , he cannot hinder us from concluding , That in establishing his Sense as the only good , and as the Doctrine of his Church , he condemns all others which the Doctors have given hitherto ; and therefore he acts for us , and favours our Cause , as much as it can be favoured . Although the Explications of my Lord of Condom should terminate some different , we should not be obliged to believe upon his Word , that his Sense should be that of the Council of Trent . It hath reproached to these Gentlemen , that these Explications were against the Bull of Pius the Fourth , which expresly forbids all Explications of that Council . These be its own words ; [ To avoid the Confusions and Disorders that might arise , if it were permitted to every One to bring to light their Commentaries and Interpretations upon the Decrees of the Council ; by Authority Apostolical we forbid all Persons Ecclesiastick or Laick , of whatsoever Dignity , Condition , Honour or Power whatsoever ; and all Prelates , under pain of being Interdicted the Entrance of the Church , and others under pain of Excommunication , to undertake , without our Authority , Commentaries , Glosses , Annotations , Observations , or any other kind of Interpretations under whatsoever Name ; neither under the very pretence of maintaining the Decrees better , or Executing , or any other Colour . And if any find there is any thing obscure , less clear , needing Interpretation , we Ordain he should ascend to the place which the Lord hath chosen , that is to the Apostolick Seat , which is the Master of all the Faithful , and whereof the Holy Council it self hath acknowledged the Authority in a manner so full of respect . ] After that , should it be permitted to any private Man to give to the Council a Sense unknown to the whole Earth , unknown even to the Fathers , who made up the Council ? To that those Gentlemen say , It s one thing to interpret what is obscure and doubtful , another thing to propound what is clear , and use it to destroy false Impressions . It seems to me , that those Words signifie that it is not true , that Glosses have been made on the Council of Trent ; they have only related its Terms so clear , that they are capable of destroying all the false Idea's that Men had of its Doctrine . Can that be said in Conscience , that they have related only the very Words of the Council ? It 's said , about the Invocation of Saints ; That we pray to them in that same Spirit that we pray to our Brethren , which are on the Earth , to pray for us and with us to our Common Master , in the Name of our Common Mediator , who is Jesus Christ . Are those the Words of the Council ? Doth it say , They should not be invok'd , but in that manner and in the same Spirit , that we pray the Saints that are on Earth to pray for us ? I would make Judges thereof , such as have Eyes and can but read ; for these be the Words of the Council , according to my Lord of Condom 's Version ; [ Because that the Saints , who reign with Jesus Christ , do offer to God their Prayers for Men , it 's good and useful to invoke them , in a Suppliant manner , and to have recourse to their Aid and to their Succour , to impetrate of God his Blessing , by his Son Jesus Christ our Lord , who alone is our Saviour and our Redeemer . ] About Satisfactions , my Lord of Condom saith , That which is called Satisfaction , is after all but the Application of the Satisfaction of Jesus Christ . And the Council of Trent saith , That in suffering and satisfying for our sins , we are made conformable to our Lord Jesus Christ , who also hath satisfied for our Sins . ] Upon the Subject of Images , the Advertisement saith , That we serve not Images , but serve our selves of Images to raise up our selves to the Originals . And the Council saith , That Men must render to Images the Respect and Veneration which is due to them ; that they must be kissed , mens Heads be uncovered , and prostrate themselves before them ] These three Examples may suffice to shew , that those Gentlemen do not deal fairly when they say , That they go not against the Intention of Pius the Fourth his Bull , and that they make no Gl●ss upon the Conncil of Trent . But I am not minded , that we should draw a Process against them about it . Let them avoid the Ordinance of Pius the Fourth , I consent : Let them interpret the Council against the Intention of the Bull. I do not think we have any right to oppose it . Those Gentlemen do make Rules , and have such regard to them as they think good . That is not our business . And after all , that Prohibition of Pius the Fourth hath taken but little place . A thousand Controversies have been raised or continued since that Council , and every one of the Parties hath explained it to his own favour . But what we say , and have right to say , is , That we are not obliged to receive the Interpretations of the Council of Trent , opposite to those that have been given us by all the Doctors of the School , which we daily read in the universal Practice and constant Use of the Roman Church . The Author of the Advertisement may well say , That we will not believe neither the Council , nor its Catechism , nor their Confession of Faith , nor the Bishops , nor the Pope himself . We believe our Eyes , we believe what we read and what we see . Though at this day all the Roman Church should tell us , as this Author doth , We do not serve Images , God forbid ; but we serve our selves of Images to raise us up to the Originals . We would not believe it , and would not be obliged to believe it , seeing we see every day the contrary . What Obstinacy ! say they ; the Bishops , Cardinals , and the Pope himself approve all these Explications of my Lord of Condom , and that of the Author of the Advertisement ; and you 'l believe that Persons of so great a Character , are either Cheats , that dissemble their Sentiments or Ignaro's , that know not their Religion . I wish they would not press us about that . We do not believe those Gentlemen to be ignorant , they know their Religion well enough ; but prudently men may often say of what they know , that only which they think capable of leading them to the End that they aim at . They would diminish the Aversion we have for the Worship and the Doctrines of the Roman Church . Prudence therefore would have them to keep from our sight that which offends us , and that a Curtain be drawn thereon . Let 's do those Gentlemen as much Honour as they can ask , to my understanding . Let 's believe that they deal fairly , that is , that sincerely they would have things to be as they express them . Really , we no ways doubt , but there are at this day in the Roman Church many Persons , who disapprove the Excesses which are practised in that Church , about devotion to the Creatures . They willingly wish , That Images were not served with Religious Worship , they would bring a great allay to the Invocation of Saints , if they m ght be believ'd ; yea , happily they might go further . I grant , that my Lord of Condom , and the Archbishops and Bishops , his Approvers , may have this Sentiment ; and that we may put into the same rank the Cardinals de Bona and Sigismund of Chigy , the most Reverend P. Hyacinth . Lib●lli , Archbishop of Avignions , the most R. F. Capi Su●●●i , Master of the Sacred Palace , my Lord Michael Ange Ricci , Secretary to the holy Congregation of Indulgences ; the Father M ▪ Laurent Bran●ari de Laurea ; the Abbot Gradi ; the Bishop and Princes of Munster , and the Pope himself Innocent the Eleventh , now sitting . What doth all that but confirm us in the Thoughts , that we have reason to condemn the Excesses that are now condemn'd by Persons , which had a great interest to justifie them ? Put can that oblige us not to believe our Eyes , not to believe what we see and what we read ? Before they can have any right to press us thereabout , things should be put into that state wherein they say that they are . I hope , that entring into the particulars we shall clearly shew , that things are in that state wherein we conceive them ; and not in that wherein they would have us regard them . Mean while , I will say , that the Providence of God permits for our Justification , that in an Age wherein they would perswade us that White is black , there arise from time to time some Father Cressets , that do revive all that Alexis of Salo , the Bernardine de Bustis , and the Salazars , have said most excessively and hainously upon this matter . Those Works are printed in the Capital of the Kingdom with Approbation , with Priviledge , and with all the marks of Honour , that might possibly be given , in the very front thereof . Whilst they fell under cover , the Saving Advices of the Virgin to her indiscreet Devoti , and the Works done for the maintaining thereof . Add thereto , that they send Post through all Europe under the name of the fournal of the Learned , the Praise of those Books which are transported with so much Violence against Moderate Persons . It 's true ▪ that the Book of my Lord of Condom , and the Advertisement , which serves for a Preface , are also upheld by splendid Approbations . But to what purpose ? That Book enters not into the Particulars , it Condemns nothing , it Justifies all , it Explains . It 's true that he grants , that there are Practices of Devotion which he doth not approve too much : It 's that which is signified by these Words , [ It nothing avails to object against us , neither those Practises which they pretend to be general , nor the Sense of particular Doctors ; for without examining those useless Facts , it suffices to say , in one word , that those Practises and , Opinions , such as they be , which will not be conform'd to the Spirit and Decrees of the Council , are nothing to the Religion , nor to the Body of the Catholick Church . ] They are lost blows , which touch nothing , because they aim at too many things . Those Gentlemen , who disapprove in general the Practises which are not conform to the Spirit of the Council of Trent , would find work enough , if they were obliged to open their mind and to speak clearly . They would fear the same Lot , with the Saving Advices of the Virgin to her indiscreet Devoti , viz. That Rome , which hath given its Approbation to that disavowing of some indiscreet Devotions , conceived in general terms , might nevertheless censure those Censors , if they would enter into Particulars , and openly condemn what they approve not . It 's known , in some measure , how Jealous the Roman Church is of those Practises which are condemned by honest Men , and by moderate Spirits . One may judge thereof by the Welcom given to the Bull , which the Pope hath published to suppress an Office of the immaculate Conception of the Conception of the Virgin , and of many Indulgences . That is too publick not to have come to our knowledge . It 's certain , that if there were a Tribunal Superiour to that of Rome , this Tentative had been there vigorously repulsed . The Roman Church , that could not censure it , hath at least despised it . This Example may let us see , that it 's not sufficient that the Pope should approve or disapprove any thing , to make it to be or not to be . Though Innocent the Eleventh had approved the Explications of my Lord of Condom , it will not be necessarily true , that they should be conform'd to the Sense of the Roman Church . Those Gentlemen grant ; that Popes are often but particular Persons , and that do not always act under the Character of publick Persons . And we may say , with some kind of assurance , that what was approved by the Pope of this day ; if Times change but a little , might come to be condemned by one of his Successors . There want no Examples of the like Contrarieties in the Pieces that flow from this See. ARTICLE II. A General Idea of both Religions . IT 's time to enter into the Book of my Lord of Condom . At his entrance he doth discover his Intention . He hopes ( saith he ) that his Exposition shall produce two good effects ; [ First , That many Disputes shall vanish altogether , because they are founded upon false Explications of our Creed . The Second , That the Disputes which shall remain , shall not appear like the Principles of the pretended Reform'd , so Capital , as they at first would make them to be believed ; and that according to those very Principles they have nothing that hurts the foundations of the Faith. ] That is to say , To express the things by other Words , that my Lord of Condom will cause both Religions so to reapproach to that Point ▪ that one may pass from the Protestant Religion to the Roman without endangering his Salvation in any way , although the Protestants do teach nothing but Verities . Because that the Controversies , that separate the Protestant from the Catholick Roman , either are not real , or else regard not the foundations of the Faith. If that be not the sense of his Words , I grant that I see none therein . I must ask my Lord of Condom pardon , but I cannot forbear to tell him , that I find not this design to be honest ; it is to lead Men to betray Truth and their Consciences . The Principle , which he lays , is of good use for his Church in France , where Roman Religion is predominant , which hath on her side all Worldly advantages . But it 's to be feared , that he will carry on his Catholick to renounce easily their Religion in England , Holland , Denmark , Swedland , and in other places , where Charges and Advantages are distributed by the Protestants : For one needs not be extreamly turn'd to the side of Libertinism , for to say , If Men can pass without Risk from the Protestant Religion , though they believe it to be true , to the Catholick Religion , acknowledging therein some defects ; one may also without danger pass from the Catholick Religion to the Protestant Religion , in believing this moderately bad . We must tell the Truth , it 's a dangerous Snare that is laid for Us. The Author of the Advertisement doth conjure Protestants by Charity , which is God himself ; and by the Name of Christians , which is common to us , to judge no more of the Catholick Doctrine by what is told them in their Sermons , but by this Exposition . But I conjure them , by the Care they ought to have of their Salvation , to beware of the Illusions that are prepared for them , and not to feek here for Pretences , when they shall be tempted to quit a Religion hated and disfavoured , to follow that which opens the Way to all Preferments . There is no less Concerns in this affair than Eternal damnation . God , who will prove all false Doctrines by the Fire of his Word , and those that shall have followed them by that of his terrible Judgment , cannot be deceived by Equivocations , nor by imperfect Expositions . I demand of them a little Sincerity , a little Love for their Salvation , and a moderate good Sense ; with those , one may easily judge , whether both Religions be so near to each other , that they differ not but by Disputes , which may be caused to vanish in explaining some Terms ; or by Opinions , that hurt not the foundations of Faith. I will first give a general Idea both of the One and of the other . I 'le suppose an Infidel , who seeks for Religion in the several Sects , which are among the Christians . He enters into the Churches of the Roman Catholicks , he sees them filled with Pictures , and those Images themselves magnificently adorn'd , put into the most Sacred places , having at their feet many Suppliants , Persons prostrate before them , kissing them , embracing their knees , burning Torches before them , or Wax Candles , incensing them and carrying them about in pompous Processions . In those Churches also doth he see Altars , and thereon a Sacrifice of the Body and Blood of a God-man , who every day , after some Mystical Ceremonies descends from Heaven , and comes to place himself really under the Accidents of the Consecrated Bread and Wine . He sees , I say , a Sacrifice of Human Flesh , but invisible , which is done with a great Shew and Attendance of Ceremonies , for the Propitiation of the Sins of the Dead , and for all the Necessities of the Living . He sees an Object , which appears to be meer Bread , which he must be made to adore as his God , his Redeemer and Master . He sees Men , that make their Prayers , and that sing Sacred Hymns ; but he meets with the Veil of a Language strange and unknown , which is diffused through all this Worship , and doth conceal it quite from Vulgar Eyes . By the favour of an Interpreter he penetrates through this Veil , and under it he sees Prayers and Invocations addressed to Creatures , whereto are given the magnificent Names of Mediators , Mother of Mercifulness , Queen of Heaven , Refuge of Sinners , Gate of Paradice , &c. from whom Men do request to be delivered from Maladies , recovery of Health , to be cured of the Languors of their Souls , to be loosed from the Bonds of their Sins , to receive increase of Virtues , to be delivered from Hell , and to be put into the possession of the Glory of Heaven , by their Merits and by their Intercession . He sees a Religion abounding in Ceremonies ; whereof the Ministers are cloath'd with Habits extraordinary and mystical : He sees their Crosses , Holy Water , and a great external Shew altogether pompous and compounded with an incredible Number of different Parts . Piercing yet further , he sees Men set upon their Tribunals , at the feet whereof they shew him other Men , on their Knees , confessing their Sins to them , and expect Remission from them ; and he hears those Spiritual Judges on those Tribunals , who impose on Sinners , Penitences , Fastings , Pilgrimages , Hair-Cloth , Cilices , rough Shifts , to satisfie thereby God and the Church , who preach to them , That all the Sins committed before Baptism are expiated solely and entirely by the Blood of Jesus Christ ; but that every Man must satisfie for his Sins committed after Baptism . That tell them That Men must labour to merit Eternal life by good Works : That teach them , That the good Works , wherein God takes pleasure , are among other , Devotions for the Saints , Pilgrimages , Vows , tedious Tautologies of certain Prayers , observed in the Honour of some of those Saints , and of their Images . Who give them to observe a long List of Ecclesiastical Laws , about Fasts , distinctions of Meats , Corporal Mortifications . That declare to them , That the Non-observance of those Laws of the Church will damn them , as much as the violation of Gods Commands . Which tell them also , That after this life they cannot hope to enter immediately into Heaven , but that they must pass through a place of Torment , where they shall be examined , happily for many Ages , by a cruel Fire , until they have intirely satisfied for those Sins , for which they could not make Satisfaction during this life . He sees Priests upon those Tribunals , to give , with a Tone of Authority and of Power , the Remission of Sins to those Penitents , and to tell them , I absolve you . They hear them say , That Men must receive their Orders , and those of the Church , as so many Sentences from Heaven . That this Church is infallible , and exempt from Errour ; that She is Judge , without Appeal , of all Debates . That the Holy Scripture , in regard of us , holds her Authority but only from Her ; that we could not know the Divinity of the Word of God , but only by the Testimony of the Church ; that She is the Interpreter of her Sense , and that the Interpretations which she gives , though they seem contrary to Sense , to Reason , and even to some places of this very Scripture , ought to be received with a Soveraign Submission . Above those Men , which are only called Priests , he sees several Dignities ; but above all , he sees a great Monarch Spiritual and Temporal , who calls himself Jesus Christs Lieutenant , the Vible Head of the Church , the Mouth of God , who pronounces Oracles , and who can never Erre ; who is above Emperours and Kings ; who can establish them , and who can destroy them . Behold , what our Infidel may see in the Roman Church . Neither he ; nor I do pronounce any thing , we say not whether it be good or bad . Going out from thence , he enters into the Temples of the Protestants , wherein he sees nothing of what he had seen in that place , whence he came forth . He sees there no Images , no Altars , no Sacrifices , no Pomp , no Ceremony . They tell him , for a reason of this difference , God is jealous of his Honour , he would not have any Service done to Images , he hath expresly forbidden it in the Second Command of his Law. The Sacrifices of Christians are Praises and Thanksgivings , Works of Mercy , Offerings and Alms ; these are the Oblation of the Heart and Affections , and their Perfumes are their Prayers . We have no Altars ; for since that Jesus Christ did Sacrifice his Sacred Person for our Salvation , having no more Sacrifices , we need no more Altars . Our Infidel lending his Ear to what is said , hears indeed nothing but Prayers and Hymns , which are Sung ; Sermons , Prayers addressed to God ; no Angels , no Saints invoak'd : They tell him , Prayer is the Principal of our Homages , and the first act of our Adoration , therefore we reserve it for God. We believe that we should offer a great Wrong to the Divinity , if we did divide his Honour between Him and his Creatures . They shew to this Infidel a small number of Sacraments , administred with great simplicity . Nothing is disguised from him ; They tell him , What you see on ▪ this Table is true Bread and true Wine ; but it 's Bread and Wine mystical : It is the Sacrament of Jesus Christ crucified ; it is the Symbol of his Flesh and Blood , and the precious Pledge of the Love of God , the Seal of our Justification , and One of the Means of our Sanctification . But the Grace which is adjoyned doth not destroy Nature . Instead of causing him to adore , what his Senses tell him to be Bread ; They tell him , Take heed , lest under any Pretence whatever , you render to the Creature that Honour which is due only to the Creator ; for he that said , Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God , and him alone shalt thou serve , will not be paid with any Excuses ; it will not avail to say , I supposed that my Saviour came under that appearance of Bread. Our Infidel sees a Religion which keeps nothing secret from him , under pretence of Mystery . They do not tell him , about the Word of God , Walk therein as in a dangerous Way ; either read not at all , or read with a Spirit of Submission , for all that the Church hath taught you : Do not believe what your Eyes will seem to tell you about your Lectures ; and whatsoever you may meet withal , conclude nothing that may be opposite to the Faith of your Doctors . On the contrary , They lay before him the Scripture on the Tribunal of the Church ; They tell him , Obey your Leaders , suffer not your selves to be conducted by the false Lights of your own Reason . Submit to the Mysteries , but let not your Submission be blind ; consult the Scripture , read , instruct your selves , and believe nothing upon the Witness of Men : Do not rest but upon the Testimony of God ; His Word is clear , solid , sufficient for your Instruction ; His Authority is Soveraign and Independent of any other . He sees not , in the Worship of that Religion , any strange Language , which diffuses Darkness through all ; which conceals Mysteries from the Eyes of Ignorant Ones ; all is naked , all is open , all is simple . He sees , he hears all that is done , all that is said ; every one Prays in the Tongue he understands , and which is understood in the Country where he is . This Infidel sees Preachers , which exhort him to Repentance , to Mortification , to renouncing the Vanities and the Idols of the World ; but they do not impose on him the Necessity of declaring all the Motions of his Soul to a Man ; they order him to confess primarily to God ; then they advise him to make choice of a wise Director , to discover with Liberty to him the Wounds of his own Conscience , and to ask his Advices . They tell him , That all Human Satisfactions are incapable of paying the Justice of God ; That our Lord Jesus Christ hath paid for us abundantly ; That his Merit is granted to us by a gratuitous Mercy ; and that the true Satisfaction which God requires , is the Contrition of the Heart , Faith , Charity and Amendment of Life . They do not charge him with the multitude of External Observations , of Fasts , of Macerations , of Pilgrimages . They say to the contrary , That bodily Exercise is profitable to little ; but that solid Piety hath the Promises of this present life , and of that which is to come . They labour to draw him out of the Security that the Worldlings are plunged in ; but they seek not to retain him in perpetual Terrours . They tell him , There is no Salvation for the Sinner , that perseveres in Impenitency ; but that the true Penitent may be assured , that God will shew him Mercy . They assure him , That if his Sins be pardoned him in this life , they shall also be pardoned him in the other too , and that there is no Purgatory , nor Torments , through which Men are to pass , to arrive to Paradise . They confess to him , That they have not the power to remit Sins ; They tell him , that that appertains to God only ; but they tell him , That God never refuses that Grace , to those that ask it with the Spirit of Humility . In fine , He sees nothing Pompous in the Government , or that may relish of the Spirit of the World ; No Monarchs , no Spiritual Soveraigns . He sees none but Conductors , that are Men of an equal Authority ; or if he sees , in some places , within that Church some Bishops , and some Archbishops ; He understands that those Persons make Profession to have no other Head , for the Spirituals , but Jesus Christ ; and no other for their Temporals , than those which God hath established in the World , by his Providence . If this Infidel , who hath thus cast his Sight upon these two Religions , be wise , he will ask time to think of his Choice , and will pronounce nothing upon what he hath seen . But in Conscience , can any Man believe , that this Man , who hath no other light but that of good Sense , can perswade himself that these two Parties make up but one Religion ; that it is the same thing , that their Differences are not Essential ? In one , He sees Altars and Sacrifices ; in the other , he sees none . In the one , he hears them invoke Saints and Angels ; in the other , he sees they content themselves to reverence their Name , and to invoke God. In the one , he sees Images to be served ; in the other , he sees a mortal aversion for that Worship . In the one , he understands Nothing ; in the other , he understands all . If this Man suffers himself to be conducted by his Natural Lights , he will without doubt believe , that these two Religions are absolutely different ; and I cannot imagine , that he could believe what my Lord of Condom saith , That the Disputes of these two Parties can be nullified by explaining some Terms ; and that what remains hath nothing Capital , and that can hurt the foundations of the Faith. ARTICLE III. That we agree not about Fundamental Points . BUt happily may some say , That this general Review of the two Religions is proper only to make an Illusion ; because , that in this Method , Men judge only by appearances . Now its true , that they are in an Appearance of great distance ; whereas in examining things in particulars and at the bottom , it may be that they would go near to accord about those things , and should only dispute about Terms . That might happily be , and therefore I will not forbear entring into a particular Examen of each Article . First , My Lord of Condom saith ; That we all agree about the Foundations of the Faith ; that the Doctrines which we esteem Fundamental , are all believed and professed in the Roman Church . He brings for Witness thereof Monsieur Daillé , who saith in his Book entituled , Faith founded upon the Scriptures , That all Fundamental Articles are without Contest , that the Roman Church professes to believe them ; That in Truth we do not hold all the Opinions of that Church ; but that we hold all their Beliefs , or Creances . My Lord of Condom lays another Maxim , which he draws from our Principles : It's , That if one agrees with the Foundations , and then lays down Opinions which does overthrow those Foundations by Consequences ; we must not impute those Consequences to him who disavows . The Opinion of the Lutherans , about the real Presence of the Body of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist , destroys the Human Nature of our Lord Jesus Christ by a lawful Consequence ; but the Lutherans disavow that Consequence , therefore we will not impute it to them . He would have us to have the same Equity for his Church . For Example , She establishes the Sacrifices of the Mass , She lays down the Intercession of Saints , She ordains Penances and Satisfactions : We say , That the first of them destroys the Sacrifice of Jesus Christ ; that the second prejudices his Mediation ; that the others are injurious to the Super-abounding fulness of his Merits . But they say , they are only Consequences , which the Roman Church disowns ; therefore we may not impute the same to them without Calumny . I might have many things to say thereabout , If I had designed to make a great Book ; but I will restrain my self within this . That this Consideration cannot be a Means of Reunion , nor a Reason of our Re-entrance into the Roman Church : First , Because it 's not true , that both Parties agree about all the Protestants esteem to be Fundamental . There are Three general Foundations in Religion : First , That there is a God , who is to be adored . The Second , That there is but one God , and we ought to serve and adore none but him . The Third , That this God is to be served in Jesus Christ joyntly with him , and according to the Religion which he hath taught . The first is the foundation of all Religion in general : The second , the Foundation of the true Religion , in that it embraces the Religion of Moses and that of Christ : And the Third is the Foundation of the Christian Religion . The Roman Church receives the first Foundation , That God is to be served and adored . She receives the Third but in Words , for she makes indeed Profession to adore God , according to the Religion which Jesus Christ hath taught ; but we pretend that her Worship is not suitable to her Profession . They must not answer me , that we are to blame to pretend that . Happily may we be to blame ; but at present the Question is not to know , whether we have reason ; but only to know , if , in our Principles , the Roman Church destroys some Foundation of the Faith. Now she destroys , according to us , this One ; therefore it s impossible that we can joyn with her . But she destroys much more openly the Second of those Foundations , in that she serves and adores that which is not God , according to Protestants . We must adore a God : behold the first Foundation , and the Roman Church receives it . We must adore none , but God : behold the second Foundation , which is no less important than the first ; and that is it which the Roman Church absolutely destroys . She adores the Sacraments of the Eucharist ; Yea , say they , but it 's in the Supposition , that the Eucharist becomes the Humanity of Jesus Christ , that is to say , the Humanity of God. But that is nothing to the present Question . It suffices me , that it 's most evident , that according to our Principles , the Roman Church adores another , besides God , and by Consequence she also destroys , according to us , one of the principal Foundations of the Faith. My Lord of Condom will then permit me to tell him , That he hath not read in any of our Authors , that our Church agrees with his in the Foundations of the Faith. Monsieur Daillé hath not said so ; and if he had said it , I would make no difficulty to say , That he was deceived . We only say , That we believe nothing but what the Roman Church believes with us ; but that we believe not all that the Roman Church believes . We distingnish Affirmative Articles from the Negative . We agree with the Roman Church about Affirmative Articles , viz. we all believe that there is a God , that he is to be adored ; that there is a Jesus Christ , that he is dead , risen again , ascended to Heaven , God blessed for ever with the Father ; that he is the Redeemer of the World &c. But we agree not about the Negative Articles , and among them , there are some that respect the Foundations ; such is that whereof we speak , Thou shalt adore none but God. We make no difficulty to say , That the Worship of Images and Invocation of Saints do also destroy this Foundation ; because there is no act of Religion that is not an Adoration . So Men cannot serve religiously any Creature , without violating this Command , Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God , and him only shalt thou serve . 2. I subjoyn , That the Fundamental Verities , wherein we agree with the Roman Church , cannot be a Means of Reunion with her , because of the multitude of Opinions which she hath added to those Foundations ; and that those Additions are absolutely opposed to the purity of the Faith. I say , that in retaining the Verities , which the Roman Church retains , and even some over and above , one might make a monstrous Religion , and Soveraignty Idolatrous ; for Example , Suppose that some Men should believe that there is but One God , that we must adore None but him ; that Jesus Christ is the Redeemer of the World , that he is truly God , and truly Man ; that there is a Paradise and a Hell , &c. But who should perswade himself , that all Creatures are united to God in so particular a manner , that they ought to be worshipp'd with God ; That the Sun , for Example , is the Eye of the Divinity ; that in that quality he ought to be worshipp'd ; that the Rivers are his Arms , whereby he embraces the Earth , and because of that one may Sacrifice to them : Those People would say , I worship but one God , I believe in Jesus Christ ; but I believe that that God is every where , and that God is All ; and because of that , I adore that All , wherein he is . If the Ubiquitans in the Supposition they make , That the Humanity of Christ is in all the Spaces and in all the Bodies ; should come to conclude , That Men must worship all the Bodies of the World , would they not be Idolaters ? Nevertheless they would retain all the Foundations of the Faith , which the Roman Church retains . As for what they say , That one must not impute unto People the Consequences which they disavow : I Answer , That the question is not here about Consequences which arise from certain Errors which Men defend , but whereof they disown the Results . The question is or Consequences owned , and that we may impute to them that avow them . Jesus Christ est reellement dans l'Eucharistic . Behold the Principle or Errour : Then must we adore the Sacrament ; behold the Consequence , and a Consequence avowed . We must do all that the Church commands : Behold the Principle . Therefore we must serve Images and invoke Saints ; behold the Consequences which are owned . I might produce an hundred more , but these suffice me . I add thereto , That there are Consequences , which though they be disowned , they cease not to subsist ▪ Those are they that arise from the very Actions and Practises . If a Man should give a Box on the Ear to another , and say , that no wrong is done to another , but when one hath no right to strike ; and therefore denies to have done him wrong , because it was not his Intention to wrong him , or because he had right to strike him ; because he denies the Consequence , shall it be less true ? The Roman Church invokes Saints , serves Images , adores the Sacrament of the Eucharist . We tell her , She offers injury to God , in imparting to Others a Worship which is due to him alone . Thereupon she Answers , It 's a Consequence you draw , but what we deny ; In Consciente is such a Justification to be received ? We must distinguish well between Speculative Consequences , which arise from a Doctrine ; and those that are Practical , and which arise from Worship . It 's of the former that we must understand this Rule of Equity ; That we must not impute Consequences to those that disavow them . But that cannot be applied to the Consequences of Practice . In fine , When we accuse the Roman Church to do wrong to God , in imparting Adoration to others ; to the Sacrifice of the Cross , in adding another Sacrifice ; to the Satisfaction of Jesus Christ , in establishing Human Satisfactions : It 's not true that these things may be called Consquences , and that we may be justified of that Accusation by denying them . That is clear by this Example : If one divide the Authority of the Prince Soveraign , among his Subjects , without his Permission ; I maintain , That injury is done to him by that very thing ; and that one should not be received to say , I deny I do injury to my Soveraign , in giving one part of his Soveraign Authority to Others . That 's a Consequence which I disown . The Injury consists in the Act it self that is done , and not in a Consequence which arises from the Action . So to give a new Sacrifice , new Intercessours , and new Objects of a Religious Worship , it 's directly to offend God , the only Object of Religion . It 's to oppose the Unity and Perfection of the Christian Sacrifice . It 's to do injury to the only Intercessour ; and that by the very Actions which are done , and not by Consequences which arise from those Actions . But at least , will they say , You are obliged to grant , that the most part of the Errours of the Roman Church are not Capital . Thereupon I say Three things : First , That it 's enough if there be two or three Capital Errours , and even One alone in a Religion , to render intolerable , that whith otherwise might have been tolerable . The Second thing that I say , is , that the Errours , which every one being apart might have been tolerated , if they were alone ; cannot be born with when they are in a great Number . A Life that should be wholly charged with those Sins , which the Roman Church calls Venial , and that should have no good Work at all , would undoubtedly lead to Eternal death ; although every one of those Sins taken apart would not destroy Grace . A Religion , that should gather an infinite number of Practises , of Superstitions and Errours , whereof none were Capital , could not be suffered nevertheless ; for it is a Capital Affair to bury the Truth in so great a number of Errours . In fine . I say , that the Roman Church hath rendred Capital those of her Errours ; that would not otherwise be such , since she hath made Articles of Faith of them . She obliges , under pain of Anathema , that is to say , Pain of Eternal damnation , to believe that the Books of Maccabees are Canonical ; that Concupiscence after Baptism is no more Sin ; that the involuntary Motions of that Concupiscence are not Sins ▪ that Baptism is of an absolute necessity ; that Order is a true Sacrament ; that Marriage is not dissolved by Adultery , and an hundred things of this Nature . If she had received those Opinions without obliging others to receive them ▪ they might have been tolerated ; but as soon as she hath made them Articles of Faith , they become intolerable . For it 's a mortal Sin , to receive Errours as Verities Fundamental . It 's a horrid Crime to condemn to Hell Men that have but light Errours : Now the Roman Church , by her Anathema's , obliges me to damn those who have but light Errours . In fine , It 's a black baseness , to make Profession by Oath , to believe as Capital Verities and necessary Ones , such Opinions as we know to be Errours : And that is it the Roman Church would oblige us to . In a word , I think to Reason justly in Reasoning thus . All the Articles of Faith are Fundamental Points , because they cannot be rejected without being Anathema's . The Roman Church , of those things which we might have considered as light Errours , hath made Articles of Faith , which may not be rejected without a direful Anathema . Then hath the Roman Church , in that regard , those Opinions that could have pass'd for being of little importance , Fundamental Points ; and in our regard , Capital Errours . And from thence , it seems to me to be clear , that after the decisions of the Council of Trent , all Reconciliation is impossible with the Roman Church . Because the Question is no more of tolerating light Errours ; but to believe them , and make profession thereof , and of damning all those that believe them not ; and that is it , which an honest Man and a Christian cannot do . ARTICLE IV. That the Worship forbidden of God , cannot terminate in him . BEhold the Second Principle of that Union , which my Lord of Condom propounds ; it 's , That the Religious Worship in the Pag. 17. Church of Rome terminates in God. If the Honour she gives to the Holy Virgin , and the Saints , may be called Religious , it 's because it relates necessarily to God. He would conclude thence , That in retaining our Principle , that every Religious Honour is to be related to God , we can , without hurt to our Conscience , partake of the Worship of the Roman Church , seeing that she teaches , That every Religion● Worship is to be referr'd to God , as to its necessary End. 1. I wish that my Lord of Condom had cited to us some Text of the Council of Trent , which might assure us , That all Religious Worship is terminated in God. I see there , that we must invoke Saints , because they reign with Jesus Christ , and because they intercede for us , &c. I read there no more . I conceive there is a little difference between invoking a Saint for reference to God , and terminate a Religious Worship to God. It 's true , that the Roman Chuch invokes Saints by respect to God , that is to say , because they are the Saints of God , because they govern under God , because they have merited with God ▪ because they intercede before God for Men. If those Saints should have no relation to God , no doubt Men would not serve them . But is not this to impose visibly upon the World , to say , That because of that all Religious Worship is terminated in God ? Because that a Favourite hath the Princes Ear , that he disposes of the places of the State , under his Authority , that he obtains of him what he will , he is courted , a thousand Homages are done to him ; do those Honours terminate in the Prince because of that ? Is he bound to own them and regard them , as if done to himself ? A Man that would say such a thing , would not he render himself ridiculous ? Who ever heard , that Worship doth not terminate in that Person which is the immediate Object thereof ? Those Gentlemen conceive , that they have right to say what they please , and that we are bound to believe them on their Word . 2. But though it should be the Intention of those that invoke Saints to terminate all their Worship in God , would that Intention suffice to effect the thing ? If it were so , there would never have been any Idolaters , that is to say , Persons that had adored Images or Idols . For there was never any Religion so brutish , as to terminate their Worship upon Brass or Wood , Silver or Gold , whereof the Image is compounded . If any Person have done it , it must not be imputed to the Religion . Those Idolaters referr'd their Worship to the Deity , which was represented by the Idol . The Israelites had not offended God in the Worship of the Golden Calf ; for it 's as certain , as any thing can be so , that their Adoration was referr'd to that God , who had brought them out of Egypt , whom they had design to adore under the Sign of that Calf . In fine ; A Man that should take a Tree , a Dog , a Horse , and should adore him , referring his Worship to God in his Intention , would not be guilty , for his Worship would terminate in God. We must know then , that to the end our Adoration may terminate in God , it suffices not that it be the Intention of him that adores ; but God must accept that Adoration . Nothing terminates in God , but what God is willing to receive . It 's useless to have an Intention to serve God by certain Actions , if those Actions be condemn'd of God ; they are against him , and not for him . Methinks I have read , in the very Theology of those Gentlemen , That the infinite Baseness of Sin arises from its establishing our last End different from God. So every Sin , so far as in it lies , snatches away God from his Throne , in taking away from him the Title of Ultimate End , to give it the Creature ; and that is an infinite Crime . But what shall we say to so many Actions Criminal , that have God's Honour for their Object ? Of those Bloody Persecutions which have shed the Blood of the Faithful , with the Thought , That they did therein Service to God ? Of so many Superstitions , which have been practised to the Honour of the Deity ? How can those Crimes be accused of setting up another End , besides God , seing they are done in honour to God ? It 's nevertheless certain , that those Actions do not terminate in God ; and there is no other reason for it , but that he abhors them , and hath forbidden them . They terminate then in the Vanity of their Imaginations , and in the Illusions of the heart of those false Zealots , and of that bad Devotion , and do not reach God. Semblably , the Worship that Men render to the Creatures , with Intention of referring it to God , is carried out to the Creatures themselves , because that God suffers it not to reach unto himself . Here my Lord of Condom makes a Course into Antiquity , and will draw his advantage from thence , in that we acknowledge , That Men began to invocate Saints about the end of the Fourth Century . But that is a Proof , and not an Explication . I have not obliged my self to follow him through all . I 'le only say , That then they did not invocate Saints , as they do at this day . They did not pray to them in the Ordinary Service . They constrained none thereto , they did not build Temples to them , they did not Sacrifice the Body of our Lord Jesus Christ to their honour . Moreover , we profess , that we will only imitate the Apostles and their immediate Successors . ARTICLE V. Of the Invocation of the Saints . ALL that is general . My Lord of Condom begins to descend to Particulars . The Invocation and Worship of Saints , is assuredly one of the things that doth most separate us from the Roman Church . Mean while , if he be believed , the vain Terrors that we conceive therein , proceed only from their having given an ill Turn to an Action the most innocent of all . It 's nothing to see that Religious Worship that should be intirely given to God , divided between Him and a thousand Creatures . It 's nothing to hear Matins , Masses , Vespers , filled with Litanies , Songs and Praises , that tend to the honour of those Creatures . It 's nothing to see those Devoti , who having almost wholly neglected the Name of God , do cause to resound in their Exercises of Piety only the Names of the holy Mother of God , and of other Saints . It 's nothing to see the Kalendar crouded with an infinite number of Days dedicated to the honour of Saints , whilst that God hath appropriated to himself but fifty or fifty two . All Religion is to be for God , all first Notions are for that . Pietas erga Parentes , Religio erga Deum , said the Pagans themselves . Yet it 's nothing to give Religious Worship to the Creatures , and to divide Religion between God and them . My Lord of Condom hath prevented that difficulty , telling us , That this Worship is called Religious only , because it terminates in God. But I think also we have Answered it sufficiently , and have well proved , That Worships forbidden of God cannot be referr'd to him . Behold another Colour , which is diffused thereon . The Church in telling us , [ That it 's useful to pray to Saints , teaches us to pray to them with the same Spirit of Charity , and according to those Orders of fraternal Charity , which carries us on to demand the Succour of our Brethren living on the Earth . We pray to them in the same Spirit , that we pray to our Brethren that are on Earth , to pray with us and for us to our Common Master , in the Name of our Common Mediatour Jesus Christ . Therefore , according to the Catechism of the Council of Trent , we use two Forms of Prayer ▪ very different ; seeing that whereas in praying to God , the proper manner is to say , Have mercy on us ; Hear us : We are content to say to the Saints , Pray for us . ] . There is nothing more specious . That is reduced to Two things : One , That they invoke Saints , but in saying to them , Pray for us . The other , That this Prayer ▪ is put up with the same Spirit , that it 's done to the Saints that are on Earth . Those Gentlemen should know , that though all that were true , yet could not we be satisfied ; for in matter of Religion , we would have nothing but what is founded on Precept or Example . God hath not commanded us any where to invocate glorified Saints , in the same Spirit , that we pray our Brethren that are on Earth to pray for us . Besides , they being perfectly assured , that Souls separate from their Bodies do not understand us , Reason would forbid us loading our Service with useless Invocations . But it 's a strange thing , that they will still produce to us the same Facts , with so much confidence , without having answer'd the Proofs that we bring to the contrary . To see that air of Assurance , wherewith these Gentlemen say , we say nothing else to the Saints , but Pray for us ; would not one believe that there is nothing more true ? Yet let him but read the Books of Devotion of the Roman Church , to be soon perswaded of the contrary . Why then in the Hymn , that begins , Exultat Coelum laudibus , &c. do they say to the Apostles , [ You that shut up Heavens by your Word , and who open them at your Command , loosen us of our Sins , we pray you for it : You that have power over H alth and Sickness of all , heal us of our ill Manners , and inspire Vertues into us . ] In the Hymn which begins , Lux Mundi beatissima , do not they speak thus to the Virgin , [ We pray you with a Suppliant Voice , that you would please to be present with us ? Come sweet Lady , deliver us out of all our Evils , and bestow on us the Gifts of Heaven . ] In the Hymn called , Maris Stella , they say , [ Oh singular Virgin , Debonnair among all , defend us from our Guils , render us Chaste and Mild , give us a pure Life , prepare us in the sure Way , to the end , that seeing Jesus , we may enjoy an eternal Joy. ] We have an hundred times reproached those Gentlemen , that of Jure Matris impera , of the Old Missals , and the Monstra te esse Matrem ; but we shall still have right to reproach them therewith , till satisfaction be given us by Reason for it . Instead thereof they renew the same , and publish them in French , that none might be ignorant thereof ; [ Oh ▪ bend , by thy power , both of Mother and Queen , thy Son and our King : ] That is but from the Year 1672. Methinks the Date is fresh enough , and that they should not accuse us to have digg'd up Books buried in Oblivion , and old Excesses , that are no more in use . One should Copy and Transcribe all the Missals , Breviaries , and all other Books of Devotion , if one would relate all . Why then do those Gentlemen say , They only pray the Saints to pray for us ? [ It 's , say they , that in whatever Terms the Prayers are conceived that we address to Saints , the Intention of the Church , and of her Faithful Ones , still reduces them to that form . ] It s long since Bellarmine had advised us thereof . As for Words , it 's permitted to say , Oh St. Peter have mercy on me , save me , open me the Gate of Heaven ; give me health of Body , give me patience , give me Courage , &c. So that we understand , Save us and shew us Mercy , in praying for us . That might surprize us indeed . First , I would fain know , what would these Gentlemen say of a Man , that would say in good earnest to St. Peter , Save me , and pardon my Sins ; without reducing them to this Form , St. Peter , pray for me . By those things which my Lord of Condom saith , I have cause to believe , he would look on him as an Idolater ; for he saith , that the Church teaches , [ That Men must cleave to God , as to Him who alone can make up our felicity , by the Communication of an Infinite Good , which is himself . ] But is it not a terrible thing to put into the Mouth of the People such Formularies , as do cast them every day into the peril of Idolatry ? Where are the Men that are not naturally carried to take Words in their Literal sense ? The Literal sense of these Words of St. Peter , Save me , Pardon me , carries Men to believe , that St. Peter can Save and Pardon . Must a simple Man have still at his Ear an Interpreter , to tell him , Take heed of taking these Words in their Literal sense ; you would commit an act of Idolatry ; reduce these Prayers to the Sense of the Church . In a word , I never could conceive what Prudence there can be in hiding a pious and devout Sense under Expressions altogether Criminal ; Is it not to lay a Snare continually for the Souls of the Simple ? 2. It Saints have no other Charge than that of Praying to God for us , why are they made the Governours of the World under God ? It 's a Thesis that Bellarmine maintains with divers Proofs , and which is not contested ; That the Faithful alive are not only conducted and governed by Angels , but also by the blessed Spirits . Another Author saith , [ That if Kings destroy Armies of Enemies , if the Rich relieve the Poor , if Physicians with their Art heal Maladies ; Saints can do the same thing , as well as the Angels , whereof one killed 185000 in one Night ; another restored Sight to Toby , and a third delivered St. Peter from Prison . ] Governours do not always go to the Prince to present him the Requests of Suppliants ; they act of themselves according to the extent of their Commission . 3. If Saints have no Superintendency on Inferiour things , why then are Kingdoms , Towns , Families , and particular Persons put under their Protection ? Why have Mens several Conditions , differing Arts and differing Evils , their particular Saints ? St. Luke is Patron of Physicians , St. Yves of Advocates , St. Crispin of Shoemakers . They that are in danger of Shipwrack invoke St. Nicholas , Bishop of Myre . Women in labour pray to St. Margaret . St. Roch is prayed to for the Plague ; and St. Apollony for the Toothach . All that clearly supposes , that the Saints have received Commission under God , to have care of certain Persons , and to preside over certain things ; for otherwise , the first coming to hand of all the Saints would suffice to receive the Prayers of Men in whatever place they were , and present them to God. They do then something by themselves . 4. If all Devotion for Saints be reduced to saying to them , Pray for us ; why have they censur'd , the Saving Advices of the Virgin to her indiscreet Devoti ? For , in fine , that Author had no other Aim , but to bring thither the Prayers of Devout ones . He would have them say , [ Holy Mother of God , supply by your Praises , near the Almighty , what our weakness cannot render to him , and obtain for me , from your beloved , the Grace to know , &c. ] Yet hath that Book been censur'd at Rome and in Spain , as containing Propositions suspected of Errour , some Impieties and abuses of Scripture , as withdrawing the Faithful from piety and Devotion to the Mother of God , and from her Invocation . This last word is very remarkable : That Book withdraws from the Invocation of the Virgin. He withdraws not from that Invocation , Pray to God for us ; on the contrary , he gives a Formulary express to invoke her so . He withdraws then from the Invocation of the Virgin only , because he would not have them to ask of her directly those things , as if she were the Disposer thereof . 5. Finally , If the Sense of the Church be , That Men pray the Saints to pray for us , and no more , why do they not censure so many Authors that tell us neatly , That Saints give , forgive , save , and distribute Graces themselves ? C●sterus writing on the Hymn , Ave Maris Stella , and explaining these words , Loosen the Bonds of the Guilty , thus Glosses thereon , Solve Precibus , Solve Merito , Solve Auhoritate , Solve Imperio ; Loosen with thy Prayers , Loosen by thy Merit , Loosen by thine Authority , Loosen by thy Command . I am tempted to add here all the like sayings of Bonaventure , Gerson , Cajetan , Albert , Ozorius , Salazar , Bernardine de Bustis , and of Sienna , Driedo , Father Binet , Viega , Gabriel Biel , Antonine , and an hundred others ; that is to say , the Ancients and Moderns , the lesser , the great and middle Authors . But I will not yield to that Temptation , for it would be an infinite work , and we shall see anon that Father Cresset hath spared us that labour . When they speak to us face to face , they tell us , Those are brave Authors indeed : Must we judge of the Sense of the Church by little popular Books , which ignorant Bigots put into the Peoples hands ? They are fallen into those Excesses which honest Men do condemn . Yet these brave Authors are Canonized Saints ; they are called St. Bonaventure , St. Antonine , St. Bernardine . They dare not publickly condemn , what they privately censure . So all things do still remain ; and if any venture to publish any Writing against these Devouts , it 's presently censur'd and suppress'd . After that , they would have us on the credit of four Words , drawn out of a Catechism , which the Council of Trent never saw nor approved , we should belie our Eyes against what we read , and what 's daily done before us . We ask pardon of my Lord of Condom , and of the Author of the Advertisement ; but we are bound to believe , that their Church doth not simply invocate Saints as Intercessours , but as Governours and Directors , who distribute according to Gods Orders all the Good and Evil that befall the World. We will believe , that he and many others would fain have things to go otherwise . But in fine , they go so , and apparently they will go so still , yet for a long time . The Archbishop , and the Bishop of such and such a place ▪ suffer not that to be done in their Diocess , say they to us . That may be , but an Archbishop , and some Bishops , are not all the Roman Church ; and maugre the Care of some Prelates of France , the Devotion of Convents and Monks fails not to carry it on upon their Instructors . And freely what may be said of Father Cresset's Devoti , it 's that they follow the Principles of their Religion ; they shew it as clear as the day , and the others forsake them . Behold the second Excuse of my Lord of Condom ; We pray to the Saints glorified in the same Spirit , wherein we pray the faithful , which are on the Earth , to pray for us . This is a thing that I admire . I had believed hitherto , that a Cause remaining the same , should produce the same effects . If Men invoke the Saints which are in Heaven , in the same Spirit wherein they pray the Saints that are on Earth , why should not the same Spirit produce the same Effects ? In Conscience what would these Gentlemen say , should they see a Man invoke one of his Friends , or of his Neighbours , of whose Sanctity he should have a good Opinion , build Temples or Chappels to him , name them with his Name , erect Altars to him , place him or his Images on those Altars , prostrate himself at his feet , kiss them , and make devout Prayers to him , consecrate Holy Days to him , place him in his Oratories , make long Pilgrimages to prostrate himself before him , celebrate the Sacrifice of the Mass in his honour , and request his Merits and his Mediation before God ; it 's not enough to say , That such a Man would pass for a Mad man ; I am assured he would pass for an Idolater . Yet would he say , I invoke and I serve this living Saint , with the same Spirit wherewith you serve the glorious Saints . I have no other End , but to oblige him to have care of me in his Prayers , Must there be so many Mysteries to sollicite the Charity of Saints , who burn with Zeal for the Salvation of the whole Church ? How can Men say , that Conducts more different than day and night , should proceed from one and the same Spirit ? The Illusion which these Gentlemen would put upon us consists then , in that they represent this Service , which they render to Saints , not so much as an Invocation , but simply as a Prayer , that we would present to a Friend to pray for us . And they do not advertize us , That the Service , which is rendred to Saints , is a Religious Service , which embraces all the species of Services which are rendred to God , Prayer , Confidence , Love , Praises and Kneelings . We cannot but complain , there is no fair dealing in comparing things that are so different . Was there ever any Man , which hath called the Prayer presented to a Saint upon Earth for to pray for us , a Service , how much less a Religious Service ! My Lord of Condom grants , That the Honour rendred to the Holy Virgin , and to the Saints , may be called Religious . Would he also grant the same thing of the honour that is done to a Saint on Earth , when he is pray'd to pray God for us ? If those Gentlemen would but say things as they know them , would they not grant , that the Worship that Men render to Saints is a kind of Religious Adoration ? and doth not my Lord of Condom grant it , when he saith , That [ in a sense Adoration belongs only to God and to Jesus Christ ; and that one may , in regard of that sense , abuse those terms to render their Doctrine odious : but if we reduce sincerely those terms to the sense they give to them , Objections then lose all their force . ] Do they not distinguish Adoration and Worship , in that of Latria , Hyperdulia , and Dulia ? The first is for God , the second for the Virgin Mary , the third for other Saints . When a Gender is divided into its Species , each of the Species may have the Name of the Genus . If Religious Adoration be divided into Latria and Dulia , then may Dulia retain the Name of Adoration . It 's infinitely distant , say they , from the Adoration of Latria , which is given only to God. We are not agreed about that infinite distance ; but though there were the greatest difference of the one to the other , that would not hinder , but both the one and the other might bear the Name of Adoration . There is a great distance between Man and Beast ; nevertheless , doth this merit to bear the Name of Animal as well as that ? Father Cresset hath not scrupled that ; for he saith freely , that there are three sorts of Religious Adoration , and that one must not only honour the Saints , but that he must adore them . Finally , To convince those Gentlemen , the little Equity they shew , in comparing the honour which we give to the Faithful , when we recommend our selves to their Prayers , to that which is rendred to the Saints : I would pray them to consider , what would be said of a Man , that of his own Authority should Canonize a Dead man , should build Temples and Altars to him , and cause him to be publickly serv'd ? I am assured , that there would not be Thunders enough in the Vatican to strike him down , although he were well assured of the beatitude of his Saint by a Revelation . For it 's not permitted to set any Person in the Kalendar , nor make him to be served and invoked publickly , before a solemn Canonization issuing from the Holy Seat. But I would also willingly know , if Men have need of Patents from Rome , for permission to say in all occasions , publick or private , to a Faithful alive , Pray for me ? There must be many Mysteries towards the one , and none to the other . Who sees not then , that they put a prodigious difference between Serving or Invoking a glorified Saint , and recommending ▪ One self to the Prayers of a living Saint ? And that things so different cannot be done in the same Spirit . In fine , Either let them tell us no more of the Service of the Saints , as of a little business , and as of a Worship that cannot damnifie Piety , or let them give us satisfaction for Father Cresset 's Book , who saith , [ That God ordinarily imparts no Grace to Men , but by the Intercession of his Mother ; and that she prays ordinarily but for those that invoke her , and are devout towards her . ] And that so , all those that are not devout toward the Virgin , cannot he ordinarily saved ; because that God , besides the Prayers of his Son , would have our Salvation to depend on his Mother . He approves what Salazar saith , That God hath made a Decree , not to confer his Grace to any Man , but at the Intercession of Mary . And what Suarez saith , That she cooperates to our Salvation in three manners , viz. That she hath merited the Incarnation , That she pray'd for us on Earth , and That she Sacrificed her Son willingly for the Salvation of Men. He likes it that Men should say , That all Power belongs to her in Heaven and on Earth , that nothing is impossible to her , and that she can save the most desperate : That she approaches God's Tribunal , not only as a Servant praying to her Lord , but as a Mother commanding her Son. That she hath a kind of Jurisdiction upon the temporal Processions of the Holy Ghost , that the Spouse hath a right on the Goods of the Spouse ; that the Virgin being the Spouse of the Holy Ghost , she hath right to the distribution of his Graces , and a part in his Communication . So that no Creature hath received any Vertue or Grace from God , which hath not been dispensed by the hands of this Charitable Mother ; that Devotion to the Virgin is a mark of Predestination ; that a Devoto of the Virgin cannot be damned ; that a business cannot fail when it is in the hand of the Virgin. That she can command Jesus Christ by Authority of a Mother ; that she yet retains a kind Maternal Authority upon his Person , his Goods , and all his Power . That one must say roundly and without mincing , with Arnold of Chartres and Richard of St. Lawrence , That she can do all that her Son can do ; because the Son and the Mother having but one Flesh , they possess individually the same Power , the Son by Nature , the Mother by Grace . That though the Virgin hate the Sin , yet she loves the Sinners engaged in the greatest Crimes , and hath tenderness for them ; that there is no Man , though never so wicked , who whilst he is on Earth is forsaken of her Mercy : That she gets Souls out of Hell , that is , she hath kept from descending into Hell the Souls of Profligates and Thieves , already severed from their Bodies , and hath wrought Miracles to give them time to do Penance after their death , because they had been devoted to her . It s there they find the admirable History of that Thief , whose Head was cut off , and whose Head severed from his Body began to cry , Confession , Confession , Confession . After which they had time to send for a Priest of the next Town , and to set the Head on the Body . The Thief reported , That as soon as his Head was cut off , the Devils immediately cast themselves upon his Soul , but that the Virgin saved her from their Claws , because he had fasted on Saturday to her Honour . It 's there also that they find the Miracle wrought in the Person of a Souldier , who had always been most devout to the Virgin. He was murthered , and remained several years under a Bush ; the flesh of his Karkass was eaten away , and the Thorns had passed quite through his Body : Yet his Soul remained within , by the Virgins favour , till that Corps found means to confess himself . Another Man fallen into the Danube , was three days in the bottom of the Water ; but at last he heard a Voice , which said to him , O Man , thou meritest to lose thy life , and to be damned for thy Crimes ; but because thou art a Servant of the Mother of God , thou shalt be delivered from this danger , that thou maist confess thy self . It 's there also that Father Cresset assures us , That it cannot be denied , without rashness , that many Children died without Baptism , many Idolaters dead in their Idolatries , and consequently descended into Hell , have been raised up by the favour of the Saints and of the Virgin , to receive Baptism and to do Pennance , that they might be received into Heaven . It 's that Father Cresset that prays thus to the Virgin , Mother of Mercy have pity on me , &c. Preserve me in your Family ; if I wander , redress me ; if I combat , defend me ; if I be wracked , save me , receive my Soul into your hands . It is he that saith , That the dignity of the Virgin is in some sort infinite . That Men must give a Religious Adoration to the Saints and to the Angels ; that all Adoration is a kind of Honour , but that all Honour is not Adoration . That it 's not enough to honour the Saints , but that we must adore them too . That we owe to the Virgin that kind of Adoration which is called Hyperdulia ; that the quality of Mother of God renders her worthy of Adoration ; that the Angels adore the Virgin , and have adored her even before she was in the World. That Temples must be built to her , Feasts consecrated , and Vows made . Methinks the least honour that can be done to a Religious man , of Father Cressets Learning , who hath above a thousand Citations of Authors ancient and modern , is to believe , that he knows his Religion , the least thing that can be granted to a Provincial of a famous Order , who hath given Approbation to the Examinators , appointed by the King to grant the Priviledges to the Archbishop of Paris , who thought fit that his Printer should attend this Work , is to believe , that they knew their Religion : When should they know it , if they knew it not in the Yeär 1679. after it hath been so examined , so attack'd , and so defended ? Whence is it that Father Cresset hath not profited by the Expositions of my Lord of Condom ? How dares he expose to the view of all the Earth a Book that carries its Condemnation in the Forehead , by the Opposition he hath to the Book of the Exposition of the Catholick Doctrine , approved by the Pope ? We cannot sufficiently admire the Providence of God , who labours for our Justification , and uses the Roman Church her self to dissipate all the Disguises , whereby they would steal from us the knowledge of their Worship and of their Devotions . Would we have yet another Witness besides Father Cresset ? We have the Author of the Saving Advices of the Holy Virgin to her indiscreet Devouts : It 's one of those moderate Catholicks , who disapproves the Excesses of the Virgins Devouts . That Author grants , That the People , the Prelates , the Doctors and Preachers , do honour the Virgin as a Second Deity ; that they render her a Worship which is due to God only ; that they put their whole trust in her ; that they lift her up above her Son ; that they give her all the glory of our Salvation . It 's Father Cresset himself that teaches us that . And when should we have done , if we would cite all that Father Mainbourg , in his History of the Icenoclastae ; and what so many others have said lately to establish that Worship of the Virgins and of the Saints . For in fine , Let any one visit the Presses and Libraries of St. Jame's Street , or go to Michallet or all the others , let him see if ever more Books were printed fit to nourish People in the Worship of Saints , and entertain them in those Excesses , that Men fain to condemn . It 's there , that Men shall find the Slavery of the Admirable Mother of God ; the Worship and Veneration which is due to the Nine Orders of the Celestial Hierarchy ; the Life of St. Josse , and that of St. Peter ; the Chaplet , or perpetual Adoration of the most Holy Sacrament ; l'Abbriegé del Indulgences ; the Statutes of the Brothers and Sisters of the Third Order of the Holy Trinity , and Redemption of Captives ; the Mysteries of the Virgin ; the Panegyricks of St. Rose by the Father Oliva , General of the Jesuites . All these Books , and a thousand others are newly printed ; and there we find a Theology and Devotions , which should cause a true Grief to them that are truly jealous of the Glory of God and of his Honour . Nothing is more capable to make us see in what Spirit Men serve and invoke the Saints , than the Sacrifice of the Mass , which they celebrate to their Honour . My Lord of Condom makes an Article thereof , and turns the thing to the fairest side ; let him not take it ill , if we examine it in its Native state . That they may not accuse us of Calumniating , I will represent here the very Words of the Council of Trent : If any one maintain , that it 's an abuse to celebrate Masses to the honour of Saints , and to obtain their Intercession with God , as the Church understands , let him be Anathema . Here is happily the strangest thing in the World , and which hath not been well considered of to this day . They offer a Sacrifice to the honour of a Creature . It 's true that the Council of Trent saith formally , that they offer not Sacrifices to Saints . But these Gentlemen will permit us to observe that in every Tongue , to do Service to some Person , or to do it in honour of that Person , signifie the same thing . We say , The Pagans have built Temples to their False gods , and to the honour of their False gods : They have established Feasts to the honour of Demons , and to Demons ; they have made Sacrifices to Idols , and to the honour of Idols . We believe then , that we say by the second Expression the same thing as by the first . Men do not speak otherwise in the World. They say , Men have erected a Statue to the Prince , or to the honour of the Prince ; they have put up this Triumphers Ark to the King , or to the honour of the King. Those Gentlemen must make us Vocabularies quite new , and advertize us , that they are not pleased to speak like all Mankind . Let 's a little unravel this confused Idea . [ They may offer the Sacrifice of the Mass to the honour of a Saint , by the hand of a Priest . ] That is to say , They may offer a God to our God , to the honour of a Creature by the hands of another Creature . The Victim is God the Son ; he to whom they offer him is God the Father ; he to whose honour he is offered , it 's a Saint , a Creature ; and he that offers is a Priest , that is to say , another Creature . If that be not called , to go against the Order observed in all the Religions of the World , I know not how it may be called . In every Religion , Men observe in all their Sacrifices a certain gradation of Dignity among these Three things ; The Minister of the Sacrifice ; the Oblation ; and he to whose Honour the Oblation is offered . The Oblation is always the least excellent ; for before time , they were only Animals . He that offered was much more excellent , because it was a Man. But lastly , He to whose honour the Sacrifice was offered , was infinitely greater than the Priest , seeing they considered him as God. And even this Order is found in this admirable Sacrifice of the Cross , which seems to be gone beyond all Rules . The Human Nature , which is the Victim , is in the lowest degree of Dignity : The Lord Jesus Christ , as God and Man together , is the Sacrificer , and under that regard he is more than the Victim . In fine , He in whose honour this Sacrifice is offered , it is God , who is superiour both to the Victim and to the Sacrificer . For although the Lord Jesus Christ be equal in all things to his Father , by his Divinity ; yet considered as God and Man , he is Inferiour ; and it s in this regard , that he saith , The Father is greater than I. But in the Sacrifice ▪ which they celebrate to the honour of Saints , this Order is turn'd upside down . The Victim is infinitely more excellent than he to whose Honour it is offered ; for they offer the Body of Jesus Christ to the honour of Saints . Behold a thing which may yet seem more incomprehensible . The Council of Trent saith , That Jesus Christ , who offered himself on the Cross , is the same who offers himself this day by the Ministry of the Priests ; that is to say , that Jesus Christ offers himself ; he is then properly the Sacrificer . His Sacrifice is celebrated to the honour of the Saints ; thence it follows , that Jesus Christ offers himself to his Father to the honour of the Saints . To offer to the honour of the Saints , it is to honour and to serve them . So Jesus Christ , who is the Master and the Creator , serves and honours the Saints , which are the Creatures , in Sacrificing himself to their honour . Methinks this Consequence comes not far , yet it appears to me terrible . Here is another that is but little less . In all Sacrifices the Sacrificer is the Suppliant , and he that demands favours . He to whose honour men offer , is the Person of whom these favours are demanded ; and the Victim is the Means , by which the Suppliant inclines him , of whom he demands . Here , the end is to implore the Protection of the Saints , and to obtain their Intercession with God. They are the very words of the Council . He that labours to obtain this Grace is the Sacrificer , and this Sacrificer is Jesus Christ , the Victim ; by means whereof he essays to obtain this Grace , it is his Body and Blood. Gather all these things together , and say , The Son of God , God himself blessed for ever , offers to God the Sacrifice of his Body and of his Blood , to obtain from a Saint his Protection and his Intercession for the Faithful . According to that , is it not true , that Jesus Christ renders himself Mediator and Intercessour with the Saints , sor to obtain of those Saints the Grace of their Intercession for the Faithful ? Can there be any thing more opposite to the Rules of right Reason ? 5. Here is a turn of Devotion to obtain something of God , which deserves to be admired . They present to God a Sacrifice , for to obtain the Protection of Saints and their Intercession with God. It 's that which is expressed by these Words of the Mass : Reverencing the Memory of the glorious always Virgin Mary , Mother of our God and Lord Jesus Christ ; and also of thy blessed Apostles and Martyrs , &c. by whose Prayers and by whose Names we pray thee , that we may be furnished with the succour of thy Protection . Either I comprehend nothing therein , or that signifies , That one goes first directly to God in offering directly the Sacrifice to him ; then God moved by the Sacrifice , must turn himself towards the Saints , and being appeased by the Sacrifice , he obtains of the Saints to intercede with Jesus Christ , to the intent , that in fine the Lord Jesus Christ may intercede with him for them which have offered the Sacrifice . Is it not true , that this course is a singular one ? For if God be already moved and appeased by the Sacrifice , why must he turn to the Saints , for to oblige them to intercede for those People , towards whom he is already appeased ? In a word , what I conceive of it is , That the Roman Church offers to God their Redeemer and Mediatour Jesus Christ , that so God may render himself as Mediatour with the Saints , to oblige them to become Intercessours and Mediatours for Men , with him . I beseech these Gentlemen to regard that with an uninterest'd Eye . 6. I cannot finish without returning again to the distinction , whereby they believed they might disentangle themselves of all troubles and perplexities . It 's , that they indeed offer the Sacrifice to the honour of Saints , but they offer it to God alone . If those Sacrifices be offered only to God , I see not what honour redounds thence to the Saint . I conceive well , that there is a Sense wherein it 's true to say , that in honouring the Master men honour the Servant . It 's a great honour to a Servant to appertain to a puissant Master , to whom all the World pays homage ; and I consent , that we may say in this Sense , that in adoring God we honour the Saints . But sincerely , is that the Sense wherein they say , they offer to God the Sacrifice of the Mass to the honour of Saints ? If that were true , all the Prayers and all the Acts of Latria , that those Gentlemen present to God , should be done to the honour of the Saints . Now it 's not so said : If the Sacrifice of the Mass were done in honour to the Saints meerly by way of reflexion , because the Saints should receive Honour and Joy to have a Master that is adored , all the Masses should equally honour all the Saints : For they have equally Honour and Joy from all the Acts of Adoration that are rendred to God. But this is not the thought of these Gentlemen ; for there are certain Masses which are offered to the honour of the Saints , and others not . The Mass of St. Peter is not said to the honour of St. Roch , and the Mass of St. Anthony doth not honour St. Paul. This Consideration gives us cause to believe , that besides the reflex honour which comes to the Saint from the celebration of the Mass ; there is also a direct Honour , that goes strait to him . And consequently , my Lord of Condom must not think it strange , that we look upon that as upon a Capital Affair ; seeing that all Christians hold this Principle , That the honour of Sacrifices is to be reserved to the Deity . After this , if any be drawn into this Snare , That the Invocation of Saints is done in the same Spirit , as the Prayers that we make to the Faithful upon Earth to pray for us ; I 'le say without difficulty , that he designs to deceive himself . I have been somewhat long upon this Chapter of the Invocation of Saints ; yet I cannot leave it without making two important reflexions . The first is upon the Council of Trent , which hath used moderate Terms to establish this Invocation , and which do not necessarily carry men to all the Excesses that we have blamed . Thereupon I say two things : First , That the Council of Trent , which hath authorized this great Abuse , to offer the Sacrifice of the Body of Christ to the honour of Saints , by that alone hath authorized all the rest : for I esteem all the rest are nothing in comparison thereof . The Second , That the Council of Trent was assembled expresly to reform all Abuses ; so that , it is judged to have authorized all those , which he hath not touched . The other Reflexion that I was willing to make , it 's upon that saying of my Lord of Condom , [ That the Council of Trent contents it self to teach the Faithful , that this practice of invoking Saints is good and useful , without saying any thing more . ] Men understand well what that signifies . Other Authors have expressed it more clearly , and have said , [ We make Profession to believe , that it 's useless to invoke the Saints . But we teach not as a Christian Verity , That all Catholicks are obliged to an actual Exercise of this Invocation . For one may be saved without it ; and may be some Catholicks are saved , who never invoked any Canonized Saints in Heaven . ] This is one of the great Snares into which our People are caught ; they tell them , If you like not Invocation of Saints , let it alone . One may be saved well enough by Invocation of God. First , I say to that ▪ How can one enter into a Church , wherein Saints are invoked in the Publick Service , without invoking them ? One must first have retrench'd the Litanies , Hymns , and one half of the acts of the Publick Devotion . One must either deprive himself of the Publick Service or partake of the Invocation of Saints . That might have been said , if Saints were only invok'd in private . That is then a pure Illusion . Moreover do they conceive , that it 's but disowning the Worship in the Secret of one's Heart , for to have no share therein ! When a Man is , by choice of a Religion , not willing to take another , he hath a share in all the Devotions that are practised , and which he approves not . When the Publick Minister prays , it 's in the Name of all present , and who make Profession external of adhering to the Worship perform'd though they should reject it internally . In fine , I would ask those Gentlemen , If Invocation of Saints be not necessary , why do they impose it on Christians ? Why must so many Faithful Ones be scandalized for a Point they can be without ? Why , not to be content with what all the World believes to be necessary , viz. Invocation of God , without adding that which at least is Superfluous ? ARTICLE VI. Of Images and Relicks . WE pass to Images , which is the Fifth of my Lord of Condom's Articles . It is a Chapter whereon no fewer things were to be said , than upon the preceding . But in truth , one cannot resolve to say over always the same things . I will only say , That one must not treat of it ▪ as of a small business , nor imagine it to be no obstacle to Reunion . The Worship of Images is a Practise of all most opposite to the Spirit of Christianism , and the most contrary to the dignity of Man. It 's to do great wrong to a Man , to oblige him to humble himself before Wood and Stone , which are so far below him . Men should not flatter themselves : It 's the great Scandal of the Jew , he hath Images in abhorrence ; and when he looks on Christian Religion , on that side , he conceives a mortal aversion from it . So we cannot imagine that to be a small Affair , an Article which retards that great Work of the Conversion of the Jews , without which the Church will never be perfect . But , say they , will Men never conceive , that it 's a great Wrong to compare or confound us with Idolatrous Pagans ? It 's not true , that we confound the Roman Church with the Pagans . Pagans adored the Images of wicked Men , and even the Idols of Demons ; the Roman Church serves the Images of Saints , and of the Friends of God , viz. Apostles , Martyrs , Confessors . Those Gentlemen will nevertheless permit us to tell them , That they put Pagans in places , wherein they have not been , so to put an infinite distance between those Pagans and themselves about the Service of Images , and suppose that Pagans have ador'd their Images as gods . We should have a little better Opinion of Men , who resembled us so much for ordinary use of Reason . They regarded their Images , but as Pictures and Representations of their gods : If I could here take the leisure , I would prove it with the clearest Evidence possible . My Lord of Condom justifies his Church about Images , by these Words of the Council of Trent , [ Which forbid to believe any Divinity or Vertue , for which it should be rever'd , have any Grace demanded thereof , or fasten ones Confidence thereon . ] I am surprized to see , that after this Decree they suffer Prayers addressed to Images ; and that Men should say to the Cross , [ O Cress , more bright than all the Stars , famous in the World , amiable to all Men , holier than all things ; which alone hast been worthy to bear the Talent of the World , Sweet Wood that bearest the Nails and the Sweet Weights , save this present Assembly , that comes hither to celebrate thy Praises . ] Every one knows the solemn Prayer made to the Cross on great Feasts , particularly at Easter , in Holy Week . [ God save thee , our only Hope , in this time of the Passion , augment the Righteousness of the Faithful , and grant Pardon to the Guilty , ] I know well what they say , That these Prayers are referr'd to Jesus Christ Crucified . It is not the Sense of Thomas Aquinas , the Prince of the School ; for he maintains , That the Worship of Latria ought to be deferr'd to the Cross , and that Worship to be distinct from that which is rendred to Jesus Christ . He proves it by the Hymn , O Crux ave spes , &c. he concludes , [ That the Cross , whereon Christ Jesus hath been Crucified , ought to be worship'd with Worship of Latria ; both because of the representation , and that it hath touch'd the Members of Jesus Christ . As for the Images of the Cross , of whatever matter they be , they must be adored with Latria , only of the first sort , viz. with a Relative Latria . ] He seems to have reason ; for we cannot conceive how they can have Intention to speak to Jesus Christ speaking to his Cross , seeing they expresly distinguish Christ from his Cross ; and that they say to it , Arbor decora & fulgida , &c. Thou art a fair and bright Tree , adorn'd with the Kings Purple , chosen cut of a precious Stock , to touch his Holy Members . I find that very good that the Council of Trent hath declared , That there is no virtue at all within the Image ; but I cannot conceive how , after that , they have left in the Roman Pontifical Prayers ; which necessarily suppose , that there is a Sanctifying virtue in the Images of the Cross : For Example , this which the Bishop utters in blessing a new Cross , [ Take then this Cross in thy hands , wherewith thou didst formerly embrace it , and by the Sanctity of that sanctifie this ; as by that , the World hath been purg'd of his Sins : so the Souls of thy Servants , that offer thee this Cross , by its Merit may be preserv'd from all Sin. ] After this Decree of the Council of Trent , I know not why they tolerate the use of Agnus Dei , whereto they attribute , [ Virtue of preserving from the Crafts of the Devil , and from the the Frauds of the Evil Spirits , to keep from Shipwrack , to put under shelter from all Adversity ; to preserve from the Pest , from corrupt Air , the Falling-sickness , Storm , Fires , Peril in Childbirth , and from all Iniquity . ] I know not why they go in Pilgrimage to an Image of our Lady more than to another . For in fine , If Images have no other use than to recall the Memory of the Originals , they are all alike . If the Spirit of the Council of Trent was opposite to these Devotions , why were they not retrench'd ? At the most , will they say , You cannot accuse the Church , but of Negligence and Toleration ; but you cannot oppose to the Council of Trent any thing that may be of equal Authority . I oppose thereto Books little less authorized than it , as the Pontifical and Roman Ceremonial , made by the Pope's Order , approved and received by all the Roman Church ▪ review'd several times since the Council of Trent . I oppose thereto , the general and constant practise of all the Bishops , even of the most moderate . There is none of them that would bless a Cross in other Terms , than those which are prescribed by the Pontifical . I oppose thereto , the practice of the whole Roman Church ; for if there be in France and elsewhere , some honest persons , who have purer Sentiments , and which are disingaged from Popular Errours ; they make no Number in comparison of the People of Italy , Spain , Germany and France it self , who are in this Practise . My Lord of Condom , about this matter , goes farther than one could have believed . He would fain perswade us , that in the Roman Church they do not serve Images at all . [ Our Intention is not so much to honour the Image , as to honour the Apostle or Martyr in presence of the Image . We use Images but to lift up our Spirit towards Heaven . ] That is equivocal , and they say , That in Manuscript Copies of this Work , which have ran through Mens hands long before it was printed , my Lord of Condom spoke more strongly ; but having seen the Success of his Book , and seeing himself upheld by so great Approbation he is return'd thither , he goes freely through , and makes the Author of the Advertisement say , [ We serve not Images , God forbid , but we serve our selves of Images to raise us up to the Originals . ] These are things that will surprize , and which would never have been expected . It 's good to observe , that the Advertisement was made after the Approbations . One may say , with some assurance , that Italy would not have suffered this Word to pass . However it be , my Lord of Condom may bless himself here , that he hath made an Example . He is the first that hath dared to write that , and happily , that hath dared to say it . At least , I may assure never to have read it in any , nor to have heard it from any person , though we see daily some of the most moderate Doctors of the Roman Church . It 's true , that most of these Gentlemen cannot endure to be accused of Adoring Images . Thereupon we tell them ; You are then more scrupulous than the most Catholick Doctors , who say , That all Catholicks are agreed against Iconomacks , That some Worship and Adoration is to be rendred to Images , but that there are diversities of Opinions among them about the manner and nature of that Adoration . That though it be true , That the Image is not to be ador'd , but because of the Original ; yet must it be adored in it self and properly , without adoring the Original . That the Images of the Cross are to be adored with Adoration of relative Latria . That the Image may be ador'd with that Adoration wherewith its Original is ador'd ; properly in truth , but by accicident ; that we regard the Image as conjoyned to the Original , which is ador'd , and that because of that one may adore it by Accident . ] Behold already great Names in the Margin , and one might , without hyperbole , add an hundred thereto . But we will go on , and say , You are more scrupulous than the Writers of Port-Royal , who are not accused to be Superstitious , nor excessively Catholick . They make one of their Devouts speak thus , [ I kept my Bed for seven days , since that time , except that I rose thrice a day to go and adore the Crucifix . ] You are more Catholick than the Popes themselves , and than the Books , whereof they are the Authors . More than the Roman Pontifical , which in the Chapter of the Benediction of a new Cross , since that the Bishop bending his knees before that Cross , adores it devoutly and kisses it . More than the Missal , which on Holy Friday saith of the Cross , Come and let 's worship it . In fine , we add , that this Scruple , of not being willing to use this Word of Adoring , in speaking of the Service of Images , is a refined way unknown to the Councils , which have establish'd this Service ; for the Second of Nice saith clearly , by the Mouth of Tarasius , That all those that will reverence Images , and yet refuse Adoration to them , are accused of Hypocrisie by the Holy Father ; viz. by Anastasius , whose Testimony he was just then relating . This Council in gross , writing to the Emperours Constantine and Irene , speaks thus to them , [ We believe , &c. that Men must adore and salute the venerable Images of our Lord Jesus Christ , of the Virgin , pure Mother of God , and also of the glorious Angels , and of all the Saints . And if any one be of another Spirit , and questions whether Men must adore the holy Images , this holy and venerable Coucil ▪ doth Anathematize him . ] We see some Authors , who being convinced sufficiently , that since 800 or 900 years no question hath been made of using this term of Adoring to express the Worship given to Images , are willing yet to use it ; but they distinguish and assure us , That they do not worship Images as gods . It 's that we willingly believe . Happily among the Vulgar are found some stupid and simple Souls , that do not well distinguish the Worship given to the Image from that , which is to be rendred to God : We cannot forbear saying , That they who have established this Service of Images , shall answer it to God for these Mistakes of the Vulgar . But however , we impute it not to the Roman Church , that they worship Images as gods : And I know not whether there ever were any People in the World , to whom it may be attributed ; for I can hardly believe , that there hath been any Religion brutish enough to give Divinity to Images of Wood , Stone , or Mettal . These are the Colours that Men have hitherto diffused upon this Worship , to render it tolerable to us . We serve Images by relation to Originals , said they . We well know , that Figures of Wood , Stone , and Mettal , have no Divinity at all , and are in no way worthy to be served : What Service we give them is because of Jesus Christ , the Holy Virgin , and other Saints , which they represent . My Lord of Condom speaks not thus : We serve not Images , saith he , God forbid . You are not then of the Religion of the Second Council of Nice , nor of that of the Council of Trent , which confirms what was defined by the Decrees of Councils , and particularly of the Second Council of Nice , against those that opposed Images ; which saith expresly , That Men must have in the Churches the Images of Jesus Christ , of the Virgin Mother of God , and of other Saints , and render to them the honour and Veneration due . ] Which adds ; in speaking of the said Images , We kiss them , we salute them , we prostrate our selves before them . All that is not to serve Images , if we believe my Lord of Condom . We see every day before our eyes , that Images are cloath'd anew on Feast-days , that some are carried in Pomp , that Men prostrate themselves before them , that they kiss them , that they burn to their honour both Incense and Torches , that they place them on Altars ; and after all that they tell us , with an air of Assurance , We serve not Images , God forbid . God be witness of the Justice of our Complaint , and of the sincerity of this Justification . My Lod of Condom saith but one word of Relicks , I will not say much more . He may turn this Worship of Relicks as pleases him ; but he shall never make us relish the adoring of Ashes , Bones , Linnens , Wood , and such other things . I would not pretend to be nicely quarrell'd about that word of Adoring . I use it in the same sense that the Gentlemen of Port-Royal , who are exact enough in the choice of Terms . They say , in justifying the Religious Nuns , That my Lord Bishop of Toul hath thought good they should follow the Devotion of the People , and of many Persons of Condition , which came , and are still coming to adore this Holy Thorn. They relate of a Religious of Maisen Dieu at Vernon , That she would be carried to Port-Royal to adore that Holy Thorn. And of one Madam Durand , That she was cured of a Vomiting , which had troubled her for Two years Ten months , after having adored and kissed the Holy Thorn. They conclude at last , It suffices to say , That if God did not make his help to be felt or hoped , there are no Human Considerations that could carry so many Persons to come to the Towns end , to adore this Holy Thorn in the Church of Port Royal. I dare assure , that no man dare deny , that they should adore that Relick which is called , the Wood of the true Cross . Yea , I know none to have condemned Thomas Aquinas , who would have the true Cross to be adored with Latria . Indeed , we know not how else to call the Action of a Person , that prostrates himself , that kneels and kisses a Relick with Religious Devotion . We conceive not how my Lord of Condom can imagine , that God takes well what is done when they lift up the Chaste of a Saint , where we see a dreadful Concourse of People , which do humble and prostrate themselves . Though Men say , that this Worship hath its Source in God himself , and returns thither . That which hath not been commanded by God , hath not its Source in God ; and what God disowns returns not to him . Here , as in the matter of Invocation of Saints , they lay a Snare for them which incline to change of Religion . They tell him , Well then , If the Worship of Images and Relicks displease you , let it alone . No body shall force you to it , and you may well enough be saved without that Worship . But I conjure them to remember what we have said . Men will not be acquitted , if leaving a good Religion , and entring into a bad one , they only can say , I will hold me to that which the bad Religion hath of Good , and will leave what is not good . Men shall answer before God for all the faults of the Church whereinto they have cast themselves , and besides , the Crime of having partak'd of a false Worship , such shall be guilty of the Crime of Hypocrisie . ARTICLE VII . Of Justification and Merit of Works . MY Lord of Condom passes to the matter of Justification and of the Merit of Works . He pretends to draw a great Advantage from that , that this Dispute is not now so heated as it was heretofore . He supposes it to have been a chief Cause of our Separation . He adds , That our Learned Men contest not now so much upon this Matter , as they did formerly ; and that this important difficulty of Justification is no more considered as Capital . Thence he concludes first , That our Separation was rash . Secondly , That we ought to return to that Church out of which we came forth , because of a Doctrine whereof we at this day acknowledge the Innocency : That is it which these Words signifie . [ We must also confess , That the Learned of their Side do no more contest so much upon that matter , as they did at the beginning ; and there are but few but will confess , that they needed not have separated for that Point . But if this important difficulty of Justification , whereof their first Authors made their Fort , is not now any more considered as Capital by those who are most Judicious ▪ among them : We leave them to think what must be judged of their Separation , and what might be hoped for towards Peace , if they did but get above Preoccupation , and would but leave the Spirit of Disputes . ] This is a reflexion which infinitely pleases those Gentlemen , they often repeat it . The Writers of Port Royal have employed it in their Book of Prejudices ; and Monsieur Arnaud makes a great Work of it in his Book he hath made against our Morals . As those two Books have been answer'd with sufficient exactness , this Point was not then forgotten . Yet seeing those Gentlemen think good to repeat often their Objections to us , they must suffer us to let them see our Answers also . Behold then the Reflexions which we oppose to them of my Lord of Condom . 1. It 's not altogether true , that the difficulty of Justification hath been the Fort of our Reformers . It was not there they began . One may read a Bull of Leo the Tenth , after the Year 1520 , against Luther . That was the first declaration of War , and it 's thence that one may compute the beginning of our Separation . That Bull condemus 35 Articles of Luther's Doctrine , there is none of them that directly concerns Justification . In Conscience , though we were agreed about that matter , would it be a great advance towards Re-union ? What would be done with Worship of Saints , Service of Images , Adoration of the Eucharist , the Sacrifice of the Mass , and an hundred other things ? People do little understand matters of Justification and of Grace . And what is not popular , is not to the People a cause of Separation , and can neither be for them a way of Reunion , though it were agreed on . It would be unhandsom enough and strange , if we should go and tell our People ; The Doctrine of the Roman Church is much more pure about Grace and Justification , than it was formerly ; make no more question hence forward to prostrate your selves before Images , invoke Creatures , serve the Saints , believe that the Body of Christ is in the Bread of the Eucharist , to adore that Bread as God , and to present every day the Body of Christ in Sacrifice . 2. I agree nevertheless , That our Reformers have made of the Errours of the Roman Church about Justification , a Capital Affair ; and I maintain , that they had reason for it , in the State wherein they found the Doctrine of the Roman Church about this Point . One may see , without Exaggeration , that the Roman School , before the Council of Trent , was Pelagian . She taught , [ That Man , without the help of Grace can prepare himself to Justification by Works truly good ; that Man by the strength of Nature , may have a serious and a true grief for his Sins , by a Principle of Love , which loves God better than all things else , and that this is the last and next disposition to Grace habitual Justifying ; that it is a true Merit , not indeed of Condignity , but of Congruity ; and that this Contrition coming after to receive its form , by the reception of habitual Grace becomes Merit of Condignity for the Kingdom of Heaven . ] So Vasquez explains this Sense , and attributes it to Scoto , to Gabriel Biel , and Cajetan , that is to say , to the Princes of the School . Estius attributes it also to William of Auxer , Durandus , St. Portien , Thomas d'Argentine and Almainus . It cannot be denied , but that the Franciscans defended this Opinion in the Council of Trent with the utmost Ardor . In Conscience , had not they reason to rise against such a Sentiment ? Lewis of Catanea , and the Dominicans of his side , who maintain'd the Doctrine of Grace , according to St. Augustine , in the said Council , did they not say , That they were not able enough to distinguish that Theology from that of Pelagius ? Those very Persons , did they not also go further ; did they not teach , That Man can do without Grace , and by the force of Nature , all that he doth by the succour of Grace ? Viz. That he can love God more than all things else ; to have a true Grief for offending God , not only of Attrition , by the fear of Pain ; but of Contrition , by a chaste Fear , and by a Principle of Love ? To obey all Evangelical Commands , believe truly , to be filled with Charity , and upheld by Hope ? This was the Sense of Gabriel Biel , Occam , Cajetan , Dominicus à Soto , who was in the Council of Trent ; these are not Imputations . Molina justifies himself in his Book de Concordia liberi arbitrii cum Gratiae donis , in citing all these Authors for himself . Is there any thing more Pelagian , more opposed to the Doctrine of St. Augustine , who supposes and proves so often , That the best of Mens Actions , done without Grace , are but illustrious Sins ? Though it were true to day , that the Roman Church were return'd from that , were there any right to accuse our Reformers for calumniating her ? And could they say , That all our Reformation is founded on Calumny ? Were they bound to have a Spirit of Prophecy , and to foresee , that the School of Thomas , which then did not make any figure in the World , would reform it self , would resume some force , and would labour to re-establish part of the Doctrine of St. Augustine about Grace ? But I add , That we have not the like cause to be content with the Council of Trent , about the Doctrine of Justification , as they would perswade us . Why hath it kept measures with Pelagian Opinions ? Why did they not condem them ? And why did they affect an Ambiguity , through which they save themselves that renew Pelagianism ? By that Ambiguity of the Canons of the Council of Trent , the Author of the Advertisement would satisfie us in a word ; [ It 's true , saith he , there are some Matters which the Council would not decide , and they were such whereof the Tradition was not constant , and whereof they disputed in the Schools . ] What , the Matters of Grace against Pelagians were then but vain Disputes of the School , about which it was not prudent to pronounce ? Had it not been defined in the Second Council of Orange , that it 's a Gift of God , when we have good Thoughts , that we turn away our feet from Errour and Injustice : That as often as we do good , God acts in us , that we may be able to act : That we cannot prevent Grace by any Merit ; and that the good Works that are done without Grace merit not any recompence : That the Grace which is not due to us , prevents us , that we may do good Works . That it is the Gift of God to love him : That he gives us to Love , because he loves us before we love him : That of our selves we have nothing but Sin and Lie. That God doth in Man many good things without Man ; but that Man doth no good , but what God makes him to do . That the Vertue of Pagans was a worldly Cupidity , but that of Christians is the Charity of God , which is shed abroad in our hearts , not by the force of Free Will , which is in us ; but by the Holy Ghost , which is given us . — There can nothing be more opposite to the Opinions of the School of Scotus , who teaches , That Man , of himself , may do all kind of good , keep all the Commands in their substance , love God above all , do Acts of Contrition , of true Faith , true Hope , and thereby prepare himself for Justification by a Proxime preparation . Yea , will they say , but the Council of Trent hath condemn'd those lax Opinions which smelt of Pelagianism . If they condemned them , why are they yet alive in the Roman Church ? It 's an important Point , and that must be proved . The School of Scotus , of Molina , and the Molinists , carries it by far , and hath still carried it , since the Council of Trent , against the School of Thomas and the new Thomists . This School of Molina teaches formally , That all the Acts of Faith , of Love , of Repentance , of Hope , which are necessary for the Justification of an adult Infidel , may be produced as to the Substance of the Work , by a Man , in the state of Nature corrupt , with the only forces of Free Will. That Divine Mysteries are indeed so high , that a Man without Revelation could not find them out ; but when they are reveal'd to him in a convenient manner , without any other Grace , than an external Revelation and the Command of God to believe , he may do Acts of true Faith , and receive those Mysteries with full certitude . This School saith the same of Contrition , of God's Love , &c. and if Men will not believe us , let them believe Molina himself . Since the Council of Trent have they not maintained , Preparations for Grace by the forces of Nature only , with as much violence as before . Estius teacheth us , that Alphonsus à Castro doth teach , That Man by the force of Nature and Free Will , in doing that which is in him for observation of Nature's Law , in the same Moment receives the Grace of God ; because that Divine Bounty suffers not , that a Man that lives Morally well , be deprived for a Moment of that Grace , which may render him ▪ worthy of Eternal life , though he be not instructed in the Faith of Christ , and do not yet put his hope in him . We learn from the same Estius , that Dominicus à Soto , who was present at the Council of Trent , and made there so much stir in the Disputes about Grace . Melchior , Canus , Franciscus à Victoria , and many others , do maintain Preparations for Grace under another form , and say , That Attrition , which may be had by the only strength of Nature , is sufficient , with the Sacrament , to obtain the Grace of Justification . Vasquez is our Witness , that Ricard , Antony of Pantuse , and many others have held , since the Council of Trent , That one may by the force of Nature , obtain the Succour which is needful to pepare ones self immediately to the Grace of Justification . Ricardus Tapperus and John Driedo , Professours in the University of Lovain , have taught , That God fails not to come to him that makes a good use of his Natural strength , by the practise of some Works morally good ; and that he gives him the Succour of his Grace for to dispose him to the remission of Sins . All that is formally contrary to the Decisions of the Church against the Pelagians . Yet all these Theologues have pretended to follow the Sense of the Council of Trent . I demand then of these Gentlemen , who assure us , that the Canons of this Council have no ambiguity , whence comes this diversity of Senses ? If the Canons of the Council are not ambiguous , why do they suffer Persons , who teach Pelagian Errours condemned by Canons clear and precise ? How can it be , that Alphonsus à Castro , who is such a Catholick , should maintain Semi-Pelagianisme pure with such a violence , that he accuses the contrary to his of Impurity and Heresie . If it be true that this contrary Opinion be that of the Council of Trent . Dominicus à Soto was present at the Council , he knew their Spirit , and should have known it ; yet , from the time of the Council of Trent , he put to light a Book Natura & Gratia , wherein he maintains by the Canons of the Council all his Semi-Pelagian Opinions . At the same time , Andrew Vega , a Franciscan , and Ambrose Catharin , Bishop of Minori , made other Books , whereby they found therein Opinions quite contrary . And Catharin also found in the Decisions of the Council , the Opinion which he had defended in the Congregations ; that is , That Man may be assured of himself that he is in Grace . One cannot avoid it , as pretends the Author of the Advertisement , in accusing the fair dealing of Fr. Paolo , who hath written the History of this Council . For the Works of Soto , of Vega , and of Catharin , do subsist at this day . And though some of them were no more to be found , it would be no less true , that they have been . But do we need other Proofs , to prove the Ambiguity of the Canons of the Council of Trent , than the Canons themselves ? The Author of the Advertisement , reproaches Anonymus , who hath Answer'd my L. of Condom , That he could not cite any one Canon of this Council , that is Ambiguous . In Truth , I know not whether there be any that is not ambiguous in this matter of Justification , except those which condemn the Lutherans . The first and second of these Canons say , [ That besides the Forces of Human Nature and the Doctrine of the Law , Grace is necessary to Man to be justified , and for to deserve Eternal life . ] Would not Semi-Pelagians have signed these Canons ? And will that hinder at this day Thousands of People from teaching with the Semi-Pelagians , That Grace is not efficacious of it self , but by the Liberty of Man ; that it is not Grace that determines Man at Conversion ; that God gives every Man a certain sufficient Grace , whereof the good and ill usage do absolutely depend on the Will of Man ? So that it is Man that distinguishes himself , and not Grace that distinguishes Man , contrary to what St. Paul saith so precisely , Who is he that puts a distinction between thee and another ? What hast thou , that thou hast not received ? The Third Canon saith , [ That without the Inspiration of the Holy Ghost and his Succours , a Man cannot Believe , Love or Repent , to obtain the Grace of Justification . ] That is good , but what need was there to thrust in a Sicut oportet ; Man cannot Believe , Hope and Love ( as is needful ) to receive the Grace of Justification . By the favour of this had Word , the School of Molina maintains its Pelagianism , That without the Grace and the Succour of the Holy Ghost a Man may believe , and do true acts of Faith , of Hope , of Contrition , and love God more than all things else . And when it is pressed with the Canon of the Council of Trent , she saves her self by the Sicut oportet . She saith , the Canon saith not absolutely , That without Grace Man cannot do true Acts of Faith , of Love , and of Contrition ; but it saith , That he cannot do them in that manner that is needful ; that is to say , That those Acts of Contrition and of Love , which are done without Grace , are not sufficient for Justification ; there must intervene some others , or that habitual Grace and that of the Sacrament be diffused upon those . They that uphold the Doctrine of St. Augustine say to the contrary , that the Sense of the Council of Trent is , That Man cannot do in any manner those Acts of Love and Contrition without preventing Grace . Why did not the Council declare it self about that ? Methinks the Affair is important enough ; for the question is no less than for the establishing Pelagianism , or for the destruction thereof . The Council of Trent , will they say , hath followed precisely the Sixth Canon of the Second Council of Orenge , where the Sicut oportet is also found . So the Canon of the Council of Trent is no more ambiguous , than that of the Council of Orenge . It 's true , but the difference is , That the Ambiguity of the Canon of the Council of Orenge is innocent , and that of the Council of Trent is affected . The Council of Orenge could not foresee , that Men would abuse this Term , as they have done ; but the Council of Trent could not be ignorant , that they would abuse it , and put it in expressly , that they might not condemn the School of Thomas , nor that of Scotus , seeing they saw that the Scholasticks had abused that Word , which had slipt in innocently into the decisions of the Church , they were not excusable in putting it in again into a new Canon to give place to the same Abuses . The Fifth Canon , which saith , [ That Free Will , after the Sin of Adam , is neither lost nor quenched , or extinct , can have a good Sense ; for we know well , that by Sin Men are not become Marbles and Stones , Stocks and Stumps . ] But who sees not , that this may be explained in favour of those who maintain , That Man in the state of Corruption may fulfil God's Law perfectly , and do Works that are truly good ? A Doctrine absolutely Pelagian , condemned by the Council of Orenge , which declares , That the Vertues of Pagans is but Cupidity and Self-love . A Doctrine opposed to that Maxim of St. Augustine , Homo male utens libero Arbitrio perdidit se & liberum Arbitrium , &c. Ita cum libero peccaretur Arbitrio , victore peccato , amissum est & liberum Arbitrium . Man in making ill use of his Free Will , hath been lost , and his Free Will also ; In his sinning freely Sin is become Victor , and Free Will was lost ; that is to say , that he is so deliberated , that without the help of God , he can no more turn to the side of Good , neither of the good Moral , nor of the good Supernatural . The Seventh Canon orders , That all the Works which are done before Justification , in whatsoever manner they are done , are not truly Sins , and do not merit the hatred of God. That is true , if by these Actions , which precede Justification , they understand Acts of Repentance and of Faith , which ought to precede Pardon of Sins , and which are done by the Succours of the Holy Ghost , and of preventing Grace . But it is not clear that this Canon doth favour those that say , That the Works of the Infidels done without Grace , may be good Works , and that their Vertues were true Vertues . A Doctrine as Pelagian , as any that can be so . By those Works which precede Justification , it is as easie to understand the Works done without Grace , as those that are done by preventing Grace . I do not here make an Examen of the Council of Trent , therefore will I not advance further this Chapter of Ambiguities . It 's not the hundred part of Observations of this Nature , which might be made , and upon the Sixth Session , where the Matter of Grace is treated , and upon all other Sessions . This would be nevertheless enough to let Men see , that we have no reason to be satisfied with the Council of Trent , about the Manner , wherewith they have explained Justification . 4. But it is not the only Ambiguity of his Canons , which gives us a just subject of Complaint , and will afford us a lawful reason to refuse eternally the subscription of those Canons , which they have made about Justification . It is for Example , the odious Term which they give unto Doctrines the most innocent in the World. The Seventh Canon is made , to perswade , That we look upon as very Sins the motions of Faith and Contrition , that ought to precede Justification . Which is not so . The Eighth supposes that we say , That every fear of Hell is a Sin , and serves only to render Sinners more Criminal ; which is far distant from our Sentiments . The 9 th , the 19 th , the 21 th and the 27 th , condemn us , as if we did teach , That for to be Justified we need only to have a naked Faith , simple and destitute of the society of good Works : A Doctrine which we most abhor . The 10 th and the following , have given place to those Tragical Declamations against Imputed Righteousness , whereof these Gentlemen acknowledge this day the Truth and Innocence . So the Justice of Jesus Christ is not only imputed , but actually communicated to his Faithful Ones , by the operation of the Holy Ghost , saith my Lord of Condom . The 13 th and 14 th impute an absurd Doctrine to us . That for obtaining remission of Sins and Justification , we must believe that we have already received it . 5. Behold yet another Reason of our refusal to Subscribe the Decrees of this Council about Justification . It is , because it condemns for Heresies those Opinions which we believe to be sound and true . The 12 th Canon , the 15 th and 16 th , in giving an odious and little faithful Turn to our Doctrine , upon the Certainty that we may have , that we are in Grace , and that we are Predestinate , would snatch away from us a Truth , which we believe to be of absolute necessity for the tranquillity of the faithful Soul. It 's Confidence in God and in his Promises , which renders us certain of our Salvation for so long a time as we are in actual obedience to his Commands . The Canon 17 th and 23 th , which impute unto us , to believe , That Men are Predestinated to Evil , which we do abhor , would at the same time take away from us a Truth clearly couched in the Word of God and which hath been acknowledg'd by St. Augustine . It is , That God calls no others , but those whom he hath Predestinated ; and Justifies no others , but such as he hath so called ; and will Glorifie no others , but such as he hath so Justified : that is to say , That the Grace which God gives the Reprobate , is not a Grace truly Justifying , and that Justification is never lost . The Canon 18 th and 25 th tend to ruine a very considerable Truth , viz. That in our best Works there are some defects . A Sentiment which we account so important , that without it , according to us , cannot be preserved our Christian Humility . And at the same time those same Canons impute to us to say , That all the good Works of the Faithful are mortal Sins ; the which we abhor . The 28 th sets down a Doctrine which we cannot receive ; it is , That Faith without Charity , and without Works , is a true Faith. 6. In fine , We cannot subscribe to the Doctrine of this Decree , because that although the Canons thereof were in some places capable of receiving a good Sense in the Theory , yet they give them a very bad one in the Practise . For Example , the 18 th Canon , that saith , That Man can fulfil the Law of God , when he is upheld by his Grace : And the 38 th , which expounds in what manner our Works are Merits , might be received with the Glosses of Monsieur de Condom ; but they cannot be suffered in that Sense , which the practise of the Vulgar gives them . I maintain , that the Devouts of the Roman Church believe to be saved by the Merit of their Works , and to gain Paradise by their Mortifications , as Men gain a moderate Reward by the greatest of all Labours . Able Men among the Moderns , do speak of this Matter like my Lord of Condom , I grant ; but Vulgar Predicators deliver this Doctrine in a most scandalous manner , and most approaching to Pelagianisme . The Canons of the Council may receive this popular Sense , which they give it in their Practise , as well as that , which Able Men of the Church of Rome give thereto in their Theory . But are we obliged to receive and prefer the Sense of Theory , which doth nothing , and which is shut up among a few Persons , to this Sense of Practise , which is diffused through the World ? Why have Men so much jealousie for this Term , Merit , which is proud and opposite to Christian Humility ? Though Men strive much , they will never blot out of it those Idea's of Pride which Use hath fastened thereto . Whilst it is said to Men , that their Works merit Eternal life , they will always perswade them selves , that those Works are of a great Perfection , and that there is a proportion between what they give to God , and what God renders to them . Though we were different but only in Terms , were it not better to speak with us , seeing our style carries one necessarily to Humility ; than with such Canons , whose Expressions do carry one naturally to Pride ? Whereupon are founded those proud Opinions , that in shutting up themselves in a Convent ; that in making Vows of Celibate , Poverty and Chastity ; in doing voluntary Mortifications , Men have Righteousness and Merits to spare , so as to impart to such as have not enough , and that Men can have Works of Supererogation ? Whence comes all that , I say , but from the Theology of this Council , and of that of its Interpreters ? In a word , to shorten , I say , there are at least Four Reasons , for which we cannot yield to the Doctrine of Justification , in that manner wherein the Council hath explained it . 1. The first is , That by its Ambiguities and its uncertain Expressions , it hath left Semi-Pelagianisme entirely untouched , and even Pelagianisme it self too . The Second , That it condemns us unjustly , attributing to us Opinions which we do not hold at all . The Third , That it condemns such Truths , which we may not , and ought not to forsake . The Fourth , That its Expressions do conduce naturally to the Sense which we give it and do oppose , as appears by the Practise of the People , and of its Devouts , and by the Books of the Demi-Doctors of the Roman Church . My Lord of Condom may see presently , that without casting our selves upon Questions of Subtilty , as he speaks , there are yet many things that separate us from him about the Article of Justification . ARTICLE VIII . Of Satisfactions , Indulgences , and Purgatory . MY Lord of Condom hath reason to treat of Indulgences and Satisfactions after Justification ; for Indulgences are the Justifications of Men , and Justification is the Indulgence of God. But he must permit me to tell him , that he hath no reason to treat this Affair as a Controversie of Nothing , and that should not separate us from the Roman Church . They say that Catholicks teach , with a common accord , That only Jesus Christ , God and Man together , was capable , by the infinite Dignity of his Person , to offer to God a sufficient Satisfaction for our Sins ; but that He applies to us that infinite Satisfaction in two manners ; either in giving us an intire Absolution , without reserving any Pains , which he doth in Baptism ; or else in commuting that Eternal pain into Temporal pains ; Pains whereof the Church remains Mistress , and when that is relaxed , that is called Indulgence . Thence must we not conclude , say they , [ Neither that Jesus Christ did not intirely satisfie for us ; nor that we satisfie for our selves , for some part of the Pain which is due to our Sins ; seeing that which is called Satisfaction , is only , after all this , but the application of the Satisfaction of Jesus Christ . ] After this the Author of the Advertisement cries out , with an air of Confidence , What will they say now ? If those Gentlemen please to hear us , they shall see that we have yet somewhat to say . As they have represented their Doctrine about this , as they thought good , they will permit us to represent it such as it is in effect ; and that is it we are going to do , when we shall have advertized , That they must not here recall us to the Council of Trent , as they do upon other Matters , because the Council says nothing about this . I say , Nothing , literally meant . They that have read the History of that Council , know that the Prelates and the Theologians , that made it up ; the Ambassadours of Princes , which had perceived the uselessness thereof ; the Pope and the Council of Rome , who did maintain the Charges of it , and who feared the Decisions thereof : All those Persons , I say , wearied with the long Continuation of the Council , after they had finished the Matter of Orders , which had held there Ten whole Months ? and that of Marriage ; which had occupied them four Months more , resolved to end it at any rate . So that in three Weeks time they strangled all the Business that remained , which might have kept the Council at work as long as it had lasted already ; and one of those Matters was that of Indulgences , about which they contented themselves to Pronounce , [ That the use thereof was saving ; that the distribution of them was to be done by the Church ; but that the Abuses thereof were to be retrenched . ] Behold in what manner was terminated in three Words , that which all Christendom had conceived to be one of the greatest Affairs of the Council ; which had been the Scandal of all Europe , and the first occasion that caused a Banner to be lifted up against the Roman Church . It 's true , that Ten or Twelve years before the 14 th Session , held under Julius the Third , did treat of Satisfaction in treating of Penitence , but it said nothing of Indulgences . So that they must give us leave to search out the Opinion of the Roman Church , about this Affair , in the Practise and Decisions of Doctours , adding thereto what the Council of Trent hath said of Satisfaction . 1. They say , That our Sins deserve two sorts of Pain , Eternal Pains and Temporal Pains . 2. They grant , That the Merit of Jesus Christ is infinite , and that , if God would , this Merit could could be applied to nullifie Temporal Pains , as well as Eternal Pains . 3. But they hold , That Jesus Christ would not suffer for to exempt his Elect from Temporal Pains , or at least , that he leaves absolutely to the Church the application of his infinite Satisfaction , with respect to these Temporal Pains . 4. They distinguish the Guilt from the Pain , and they say , That God forgives all the Guilt , and retains one part of the Pain . [ The Holy Council declares , That it 's false and contrary to the Word of God , that the Guilt can never be pardoned , unless all the Pain be remitted . ] 5. They say , That the Justice of God requires this Reservation , That the Sins that follow Baptism be punished by Temporal Pain . [ Divine Justice seems to require , That they who have sinned after Baptism be received into Grace ; otherwise then those who have sinned through Ignorance , before Baptism . ] 6. Behold the Uses which the Council finds in these Satisfactions . 1. It 's to serve as a Bit and Bridle to Sinners . 2. To drive out the ill Habits by the practice of opposite Vertues . 3. To turn away the Pains which might be sent from God. 4. To render us conformable to Jesus Christ , in that we suffer to satisfie our Sins , as Jesus Christ hath suffered to satisfie for those very Sins . 5. To chasten and punish Sinners for their preceding Sins . Is it not an admirable thing , that the Council among those Reasons have forgotten none , but that of my Lord of Condom , according to whom , [ Satisfactions have no other use , but to make application of the Infinite Satisfactien of our Lord Jesus Christ ? ] The Council , as well as he , pretends , That these Human Satisfactions do no prejudice to the infinite Merit of Jesus Christ . [ But it is because , not being able of our selves , or sufficient to any thing , we receive of Jesus Christ power to satisfie , and to bring forth Fruits worthy of Repentance . ] These are the Words of the Council . This Reason is not that of Monsieur de Condom ; and the Council might more briefly have said , if they had been in the same Thought , The Satisfactions which the Church imposes , do no prejudice to the Merit of Jesus Christ , because they are but Applications of the infinite Merit of our Saviour . 7. They say , That these Pains , which remain to be suffered after that the Guilt and Eternal Pains have been remitted , are the same pain of Sense , which the Sinners should have suffered in Hell , stripping it only of its Eternity . 8. They say , That this Infernal Pain , being Temporal , may be redeemed by Penal Works , and that those Works are truly and properly Satisfactory . [ In following the Sense of the whole Church , we will labour to prove , That by the Penal Works , whereof we have spoken , Men satisfie truly and properly to God for the Pain which remains to be paid , after that the Guilt is remitted . ] 9. They say , That the Church is Mistress of these Satisfactory Pains , and that she hath the Right of imposing or relaxing them ; and they are these Relaxations of Pains which they call Indulgences . 10. [ That there is a Treasure of these Indulgences , made up of the Satisfactions of Jesus Christ , and of those of the Saints , which may be applied to them that are obliged to bear the Pain of their Sins , after that the Guilt hath been remitted to them by the Sacrament of Penitence . ] 11. [ That there is in all good Works of the Just a double respect , the one of Merit , the other of Satisfaction ; That that of Merit cannot be applied to another , because God rewards Works beyond their Merits ; but that of Satisfaction may be applied to other . ] And that , because a Man may do of those painful Works much more than he hath need of , or may suffer by the Providence , Dispensation , or by the Persecution of Men , those Temporal Pains , which go far beyond what is necessary for the satisfaction of his own Sins , which happened to the Blessed Virgin , which having committed no Sins , hath suffered so many Pains ; and to the Blessed Prophets , Apostles and Martyrs , whose life having been most holy , hath yet been a continual Series of Crosses , voluntary and involuntary . 12. So in that Treasure of the Church , with the Merits of Jesus Christ , are the Sufferings of the Blessed Virgin , and of all the Saints , which have suffered more than their Sins required . 13. By these superabundant Satisfactions of Jesus Christ , and of the Saints , may be applied to others , by the Pastors of the Church , both by way of Indulgences and by the Sacraments , with this difference , That the Satisfaction of Jesus Christ may be applied both by the Sacrament and by the Indulgences ; but the Satisfactions of Saints cannot be applied , but by way of Indulgences . 14. That the Pope is he , in whom principally resides the Power of distributing these Indulgences ; therefore he may grant to the Faithful plenary Indulgences . 15. That the Treasure of these Indulgences is opened by the Pope , not only in favour of the Living , but also of those that are in Purgatory , for whom the Pope applies out of this Treasure as much as is needful , to recompence the Pain which they should pay in Purgatory . 16. For Distribution of Indulgences , the Roman Church hath established what she calls Jubilees ; they are priviledged Years , wherein they grant Plenary Indulgences both of Guilt and Pain to them all , who being contrite and confessed , shall do certain Works imposed on them . Boniface the 8 th , first Author of these Jubilees , about the Year 1300. Ordained that they should return every Hundred year . About 45 after , Clement the 6 th Ordained , that they should be celebrated from 50 to 50 Years . Urban the 6 th would have them put to 33 Years , and published a Bull about it . But Paul the Second , Sitting in 1464. Ordered them to 25 Years . It is good to remark , by the by , the great Antiquity of these Jubilees , that they may not reproach us to have loaded our Discourse with an useless Chronology . 17. Of these Indulgences , some are for 1000 , 10000 , 150000 ; there are some for Sins past and Sins to come . To the Augustines of Padua , they grant a plenary Indulgence for all Sins committed after Baptism till the last Confession ▪ with 18000 Years for the future . 18. These Indulgences are fixed to certain Churches and Priviledged Altars and those Priviledges last no longer than the Stones and Edifices ; for if they be ruined , the Indulgences perish also . 19. They obtain these Indulgences by the Visits of certain Churches ; of those of St. Peter and St. Paul , of St. Mary Major , and of St. John of Lateran , at Rome . Every Saint rewards his Devouts at the Concession of these Indulgences . At Rome , St. Cosme and St. Damian furnish a Thousand Years Indulgences ; Eusebius , 7454 Quarentines ; St. Praxade , 1200 ; St. Bibiane , 600000. 20. In fine , These Indulgences are gotten by repeating many times Ave Maria , bearing blessed Grains , Rosaries , Meddals , St. Francis's Cord , Scapularies , Holy Girdles , Kissing Relicks , and Praying to Saints . We must not oppose thereto the Bull published 1678. against Indulgences by Order of Innocent the 11 th , now Sitting . For beside that , that Piece hath scandalized all the Roman Church , which we very well know , it abolishos only False Indulgences . These are the Terms of the Bull : It 's meant of Indulgences wholly false and supposititious , which are carried and published in divers parts of the World. For the rest , the Bull confirms what it doth not condemn , and for one that it abolishes , it leaves without hyperbole more than a Thousand . Behold a sincere description both of the Doctrine and Practise of the Roman Churches about Satisfactions and Indulgences . Monsieur of Condom would have us to count that for Nothing . It is then nothing that Men should be permitted to conceive this proud Opinion , that they can give Satisfaction to God , Verè & propriè , truly and properly . It is nothing to advance that Maxim so contrary to Humility , so far as to say , That they satisfie to God beyond what they ought , and lend to those that have not Merit enough , out of their own Overplus . It is that whereof we may see divers remarkable and new Examples in the Second Answer of Anonymus to Monsieur of Condom . It 's nothing to make a Treasure , stor'd in such a surprizing manner , with the Merits of Christ and of Men. What Union can there be between the Finite and Infinite ? Can Men conceive , that this can be no prejudice to Jesus Christ ? It is nothing , to make the Saints enter into their part of that Benefit , which delivers Men from a Pain , though not Eternal , yet altogether like that of Hell. How can Men say , that these Human Satisfactions and Indulgences are nothing , after all , but the application of the infinite Merit of Jesus Christ ? Had Men need , if it were so , of the Merits and superabundant Sufferings of the Saints , to make application of the Satisfaction of Jesus Christ ? It is nothing of giving to the Pope power of dispensing the Merits of Jesus Christ to whom he pleases . It is nothing , to put into his hands the Key of those places , where the Dead suffer , to draw thence whom he pleases , in paying for them those Richesses drawn out of his Treasures , and so to carry on his Power to the very Empire of death it self . It is nothing that they estrange and draw off the Spirits and Hearts of Men from the practice of the true Means , which God hath appointed for Application of the Merit of Jesus Christ , viz. Sacraments and Contrition of Heart ; to give them up to such Means , whereof Scripture saith not a word ; as the Visitation of certain Churches , Invocations of certain Saints , Scapularies and Relicks . We must count it for Nothing , to fill the Capacity of the Spirit and Heart of the Vulgar , which is but narrow , with so many Trifles and things of Nought , which is the cause that there remains no more room for Acts of true Devotion . It is nothing , that they dishonour Christian Religion by a confused heap of Practises , which are unworthy the Greatness of his Majesty , and of his Spiritualness ; that they carry out the Piety of the Faithful to be diffused upon Rosaries , Chapelets , Scapularies , Cords , Girdles , Relicks , Ashes , Churches , Stones , Altars , Images , to obtain thereby Remission of Sins , which they should receive from God immediately , and him alone . These Indulgences are nothing , which have given place to so many Abuses , so many Simonies , whereby they have sold the most Holy things , and made a Trade of the Remission of Sins . It is they which have given birth to those Scandalous Books , like to that of the Roman Chancery , where every Sin is taxed at a certain Rate . Yet it is the Court of Rome that had made them , they were the Indulgences which had given place to them . There is nothing in this most horrid relaxation of the Discipline of the Church . Heretofore , she did Ordain for the chastisement of Scandalous sins , Ten years , Twenty years , and Thirty years of Penitence . The Fear of being so long separate from the use of Holy things was a Bridle , that restrained them from the violence of Passions . These long Pennances were done in Publick , and the dread of making Crimes so publick was another Bank , to stop the fury of Lust . At this day , according to the Doctrine of Indulgences , a Man that shall have committed in one day enormous Crimes enough to subject to Ten thousand years of Pennance , shall need but to visit a Church or an Altar priviledged , to be quit thereof . Let him return to his Crimes a while after , he may get out of the same Abyss by the same Means . These Gentlemen , that reproach with words of so much excess the ill Consequences , which they please to draw from our Doctrines against the Moral of Jesus Christ , would they have us to consider as innocent a point of Doctrine and of Practice , which pours upon the Moral , and upon all Manners , such Malignant Influences ? There are Indulgences for five or six Hundred Thousand years , unto 1500000. Few do conceive the meaning thereof ; for Indulgences are designed to deliver Souls out of Purgatory , or to prevent the Pains ; now Purgatory is not to last 1500000 , for it cannot last longer than the World. This is the Case : The Ancient Church , during the Severity of its Discipline , did impose for one Sin , Ten , Twenty , or Thirty years of Penitence , according to the Nature of the Crime . For Example : Suppose we , that the Canons did impose Ten years of Penitence for a Murther , a Man that should have committed ten Murthers , would be subject , according to these Canons , to a Hundred years of publick Penitence . He that should have committed an hundred Crimes , Murthers , Adulteries , and other of this Nature , would be obliged to 1000 years of Penitence . It may happen , that certain Men may have committed Crimes enough to be obliged to many Thousand years of Pennance . In the place of Years of Pennance , they have put the Years of Indulgences ; so that every Year of Indulgence , delivers from the obligation of a Year of Pennance . So they to whom are granted 1500000 years of Indulgence , are they which have need of 1500000 years of Penitence . It 's presently easie to see , how terrible the Sequel of such a Theology is , for the Moral . It is to presuppose that a Man can commit , without being a Reprobate , almost an infinite number of enormous Crimes . When the Discipline of the Church began to relax of this extream Rigour wherein she was at first , instead of Ten years of Penance and Abstention , she appointed but two . Suppose 1500000 Indulgence and Relaxation for the years of Penitence ; at that sort of account , you suppose a Man may have committed Seven or Eight hundred Thousand Mortal Sins ; for they impose no Pennance for Venial Sins . I grant that this Consequence frightens me ; yet they would have me to account it for nothing . Before I finish this Article , I beseech those Gentlemen to conceive , that for to know how much a Doctrine doth estrange one Religion from another , we must not consider it in that which is Speculative , because the People penetrate but little into the Speculative part of a Doctrine . We must behold it , by that which is reduc'd to practice . In speaking of Satisfactions and Indulgences , Monsieur Condom will only consider what they have of Speculative , &c. viz. the prejudice they can do to Jesus Christ , to his Merit , and to his Satisfaction . If Men will , without prejudice reflect on what we have said , they shall see we have reason to make this Complaint against Indulgences . But it is not that Consideration wherewith the People are most intangled . Let them then take the pains to behold the Practise which follows this Doctrine , and he shall see , that there is nothing that separates us more from their Church , than these Satisfactions and Indulgences . This is the Spring of that incredible multitude of Ceremonies , of Corporal Mortifications , of Hair Shifts , Iron Bonds , Cloisters , Monks , Vows , Pilgrimages , Jubilees , Stations , Church Visits , Prayers for the Dead , Masses , Consecrated Gifts , Fraternities , Devotions for certain Saints and Images ; for all that is done either to satisfie God , or to obtain Indulgences . So that we may say in truth , That this Article , which Monsieur de Condom reckons almost as Nothing , doth between his Church and ours put up a Wall of Separation , which cannot be beaten down , but by the ruine of the one or of the other Party . Purgatory is naturally tied with Satisfactions and Indulgences . For Men do not labour to Satisfie during this life , by Penal Works ; and Men have recourse to Indulgences then , to avoid the Temporal Pains of the other World ; which , omitting Eternity , are altogether like those of Hell. Monsieur de Condom saith nothing of it , or but a short word by the by . I conceive not the reason of that , unless he hath judged , that having no other Curtain to draw over this Object so frightful and terrible , he ought at least cover himself with that of Silence . Yet have we still made a great business thereof , and had good Reason for it . I pray them who are tempted to change their Religion , to bethink themselves well of what they have to do ; and not to engage easily into one Party that offers them some Pleasures and some Advantages in this World ; but promises them to pay well for it in the other . Seeing that Monsieur de Condom was not willing to plead for Purgatory , I will speak a word in its favour . Though all that is taught about it were not true , what hurt can that do , and what Venom is there in that Doctrine , that could hinder Re-union ? Can we represent too much Terrour to Sinners ? And a Penitent , that leaving this life , would think to go to Purgatory , would not he be very glad to meet immediately with Paradise ? It is a Bit , which may serve to restrain the fierceness of Passions , and which after all can do no hurt , though it were a bond of Straw , and an imaginary Object . To that I Answer , first , That this Bit is indeed an Imaginary Bit , and which produces not any Sanctification . We see not , that in the Communion , wherein they teach this Doctrine , there be a lesser number of Sinners , Worldlings and Wicked men . It is an errour to conceive , that those which cannot be restrained by the Fear of Hell , shall be so by that of Purgatory . On the contrary , Lust finds therein what to flatter it self withal . Go to , saith it , Let 's refuse our Senses nothing , we shall be quit for some years in Purgatory the longer , and we will not lose any Pleasure : We shall have all the pleasures of the Flesh in the World , and we will obtain those of Heaven , after some years of Torment . We say besides , That there are honester ways to retain Men in their Duty . It is certain , that in this the Roman Religion hath not the Character of an Evangelical Religion , in that to bring Men to Sanctity , she makes too much use of Terrour . The Spirit of the Gospel is a Spirit of Sweetness . The Law of Moses had a hundred Threats for one Promise ; but the Gospel hath a hundred Promises for one Threatning . It s Character is that of Debonairty . Mens Souls must be drawn by Love , to oblige them to Love God. That is the true Principle of Sanctification . Though it were true , That Purgatory were capable of restraining Men , God hath no need of a Lie , for his help , to uphold his Truth , and to settle his Justice . But there is something more ▪ and we are engaged to regard this Controversie as a Capital Affair , and for many Reasons . 1. We are obliged to nourish the peace of honest and pure Consciences , and of Souls truly penitent . They accuse us of lulling them asleep , and plunging them into Security . God is our Witness therein : We present to them just and lawful Terrours , by the sight of the Pains of Hell ; but when they have escaped those Pains by a true Repentance , we would account a Cruelty to present to them other Pains of the same Nature , and declare them to be unavoidable . If the Roman Church should teach this Dogma in good earnest , and that it were so believed : I maintain , it would be Impossible for their Faithful People to die without unimaginable Auguishes . A Moment in Purgatory is something more cruel thau whole Years of the Gout , or Gravel , Colick , and all other Pains gathered together in some wretched Creature . How could a Man die with any tranquillity , being assured to fall into Torments so horrible and of so long continuance ? If we must consider it as a Capital Crime , to make a poor Wretch suffer , without the Magistrates Order , Racks and dolourous Torments ; We cannot behold it as a light thing to torment Souls so cruelly , without God's Order , by the fear of an Imaginary Evil . 2. Although Purgatory should do no more hurt , at this day , it would deserve to be banished for the Evil it hath done . It is the Source , whence have sprung so many shameful Productions , which dishonour the Christian Name ; so many fabulous Stories , false Miracles , returns of Souls , Visionary Apparitions , and a Thousand other things of this sort . In a word , It 's the Father of Legends , and the cause why the Christian People , in most places , is yet fed with those Windy Meats , and with that Word , which may well be called the Antipodes of God's Word . Shall that be counted for nothing , which hath so often served a dishonest Gain ? And though it were possible to hinder these Abuses , why should we retain a Doctrine , which exposes both the People , and the Conductors to so many Spiritual Dangers ? 3. I would intreat these Gentlemen , that they would well remember the Principle which we have laid in the Subject of Satisfactions and Indulgences ; it is , that to judge well what distance a Doctrine doth cause between one Religion and another , it must be regarded by that which is reduced to Practice . It 's Practice which is sensible to the People ; and the People is that Party properly , whose Reunion is in agitation . Upon that Fort , let them consider of what importance is Purgatory in this Affair ; it is the foundation of a great part of the Worship of the Roman Church ; it is the foundation of Satisfactions and Indulgences whereof we have seen the Sequels to fill up all their Worship . Purgatory is the foundation of Prayer for the Dead , the cause of the Sacrifice , the occasion of so many Masses , of Prayers and of Services , of so many Travels , of Pennances , of Vows , of Pilgrimages and Macerations . In a word , one may say , that all is done for Purgatory and Nothing almost for Hell. For an Act of Contrition , according to these Gentlemen , saves from Hell : But all the Contrition of all the Penitents together , would do nothing against the Pains of Purgatory . Men must pass through them , or redeem them by Penible Works , by Prayers , by Alms , by Masses and Penances . So all the Strength of Devotion is turn'd towards that side . 'T is clear then , methinks , that we cannot tolerate a Doctrine , whereupon is fastened a Worship whereof we cannot participate , though our Life were laid thereon . ARTICLE IX . Of Sacraments in General . WE have met with so many things which separate us from the Roman Church , in those Articles that we have now examined , that it is not very necessary to find some in this present Matter , which is that of the Sacraments . Monsieur de Condom passes it over lightly , hastening to that of the Eucharist , I will also follow him , and pass by this place with the like swiftness . The Controversies which regard Sacraments in general , their efficacy and their manner of acting , are for the most part most Metaphysical , and therefore beyond the common capacity of the Vulgar . That of the necessity of Intention in the Minister thereof , is nevertheless of no small importance . It deserves well , that Mousieur de Condom should speak a word of it . He did too much think of what he was Writing , that she should forget it . It seems he did not find colours good enough to cover that horrid uncertainty , wherein Christians must needs continue , whilst they suppose the validity of the Sacrament , to depend of necessity on the Intention of him that doth administer it . For in fine , we maintain , that on this Supposition one can nevet be assured , neither of having been rightly Baptized , nor that what is ador'd in the Eucharist is no more Bread ; and so , Men are never out of the danger of Idolatry . About Baptism , doth only the absolute necessity of this Sacrament , and condemn to death those little Children , whose unhappiness it is to die without receiving of it ; but he brings no proof for it . I will only say , That what Monsieur de Condom adds is not very true , That we fear not to suffer willingly our Infants to die like the Children of Infidels . I know none but do fear that , and that will not do all that they can to hinder this mishap ; yea , we make no scruple of Baptizing them without our Churches , in case of necessity . But when the Providence of God prevents our care , and suffers it not to succeed , we would be very loath to damn to Eternity Creatures more often innocent than those , who have given them birth ; and which have the happiness to be born within the Covenant of Grace . About the Sacraments of Confirmation , Extreme Unction , Order and Marriage , Monsieur de Condom leaves the part of Explication , and takes that of Probation . Though the Proofs were worth any thing , I would not examine them ; himself hath forbidden it us . [ If any one , saith he , shall think fit to answer this Tract , he is desired to consider , that for a meet Advancer of the Business to purpose , he must not undertake to confute the Doctrine which it contains , ] I have submitted to this Law , and have conceived the Equity thereof . But in truth , without it I should wrong my Lord of Condom , if I should mispend time in refuting all the Reasons whereby he proves , that these four Ceremonies are true Sacraments . For I should presuppose , that he hath look'd on his Reflexions as so many good Proofs , and thereby I should wrong his Judgment , since he will permit me to say , They are but small Reasons . And so , to do something that may be to purpose , I will only say in General upon these Four Sacraments , That the Controversie of multiplying Sacraments is not so light , as he thinks . First , They are Ceremonies , and when Ceremonies are useless ; they become very hurtful , and do load Religion in a most dangerous manner . But , as I design to extend this Consideration further in the Sequel ; I will not at present insist thereon . I say then , Secondly , That Sacraments are the Seals of the Covenant ; or if those Gentlemen have an aversion for that Word , they are Sacred Signs , whereby God doth confer and confirm his Grace : It s then God's own Affair to institute Sacraments , since it belongs to him , who makes the Alliance , for to confirm it . It is his part , who gives Grace , to settle the Means whereby he is willing to confer it ; and we cannot keep our selves from regarding it as a great rashness , that enterprize of giving Sacraments whereof God is not the Author , and whereof he speaks nothing in his Word . What might we not say about Marriage , to shew how much Reason and Piety do suffer , when it is made a Sacrament ? But that were to prove , and that is it we would not do . Monsieur de Condom passes with the same swiftness over the Sacrament of Penitence . He tells us what it is , but he doth nothing towards his design ; for he doth not shew us , that it is a little business , and that should not stop us . Though he had undertaken it , he would find a hard task to effect it . It is a great Article , and about which we might have many things to say . I will not insist on the infinite Difficulties of that Theology , which makes of a Christian Vertue a Sacrament ; nor of the sore task they find , in assigning the Matter and the Form thereof . But I will say something about the Four parts , whereof they compose it , except about Satisfaction , because we have already spoken of it . Confession is a Yoke , which God hath not imposed on the Church , and which she is not obliged to receive . Let them not speak of the good uses thereof , for that would oblige us to speak of the wicked Sequels of it , to dig up a thousand Stories which would not please ; and to represent the Questions which are made in their Confessions , according to the Directions of Zanche's , Emmanuel Sa , and other Authors yet more Authorized than those . Contrition is an excellent thing , but it is a great Mishap , that they have put in its place I know not what kind of Repentance , whereto they give the Name of Attrition ; It is a Grief that rises from the sight of the Pains of Hell , without any part or motion of Love to God. That is to say , That this Grief resembles very much that of the Desperate , who would wish that they had not committed Crimes , when they see the cruel Issues thereof . They pretend , that this Attrition is sufficient , with the Sacrament of Penitence , for to be Justified and Saved by consequent . So a Man may be Justified and Saved without having made ever any act of Love to God. They will tell me , That it is the Sense of some particular Men : Yea , but those particular Men maintain , That it is the Sense of the Council of Trent . And certainly , either we are not capable of seeing any thing , or we see clearly that they have reason ; for the Council saith , [ That this imperfect Contrition ; which is called Attrition , because ordinarily it rises frem the Consideration of the vileness of the Sin , or of the fear of the Pains of Hell ; not only doth not make a man Hypocrite , but is a Gift of God and of the Holy Ghost ; and though it cannot conduct the Sinner to Justification , without the Sacrament of Penitence , yet it disposes Man to receive the Grace of God in this Sacrament . ] Yet this Attrition , whereto the Council doth so much honour , is according to it , the fruit of the Holy Spirit , and of a Grace Supernatural . But others have passed so far , as to say , [ That it is probable , that it is sufficient that Attrition be natural , so it be honest . ] It is true , will they say , but you see also how this Moral is treated at Rome . The Bull of Innocent the Eleventh fulminates it . I grant it ; but I see also that the Parliament of Paris have condemned the Book of Amedee , and his detestable Moral ; at Rome they censure the Censure of Paris , calling it , Rash , presumptuous , and scandalous . And when they condemn that Moral at Rome , they will not receive the Bulls thereof in France . These Gentlemen may agree , when they please , about this Article , before they invite us to the Reunion . For without evasion we declare , That we will never re-enter into a Church , where they tolerate People to say ; That Men may be saved , without having loved God in their whole life at any time . I come to Absolution . It is an Article that we will never pass the Tribunal of the Church , according to us , ought to be occupied by Jesus Christ alone . They shall never perswade us to receive any other Judges . And never will they make us relish , that Crowned Heads should humble themselves at the feet of a Priest ; and that a Priest , who is but a Man , should undertake to say to other Men like himself , I Pardon thee ; I absolve thee . The Apostles themselves , with their Apostolical Rod , did never use this Stile of Empire and Soveraignty over Consciences . They did proclaim Remission of Sins to the Penitent ; but we do not read , that they gave it with a Soveraign Power . Yea , our Lord himself was content to say , Thy Sins are forgiven , Math. 9. 2. ARTICLE X. Of the Eucharist , of Real Presence , and of Transubstantiation . I Begin this Article , as Monsieur de Condom , We are at last arrived to the Question of the Eucharist . But he must permit me not to continue like him ; for he forgets the Laws which he had imposed on himself . His Aim obliged him to prove nothing , and to refute nothing . The Interest of his Cause and of his Party lead him on another part , to say nothing , or to say very few things in his Explications ; because that to shew the Dogma's of his Religion on their fair side , they must shew thereof but a little Corner . In explaining them at large , a little , it would diswrap them and unfold them , and so discover their feeble side . Yet was he willing to publish a Writing that should have the extent of a little Book . Therefore , at every foot , he passes beyond the Bounds which he had prescribed himself . In this place he enters in earnest into the Dispute , to maintain the Real Presence ; he stands on the Words of Institution , This is my Body : He proves , that the figurative Sense is a By-way . He calls to his help the Types of the Old Testament . He abridges what the Gentlemen of Port-Royal have said of the Laws and Rules of the Language , to prove that these Words , This is my Body , cannot be taken in a figurative Sense . Yea , he refutes , and he answers : he labours to elude the Proof which we draw from these Words , Do this in remembrance of me ; he expounds our Doctrine , and thence draws Arguments for himself . I grant , that all these ways agree not with my designed Method ; and I should reckon my self to wander , if I should Monsieur of Condom therein . I still remember his Prayer , which he makes to him that shall desire to answer this Treatise , [ He is intreated to consider , that if he would advance any thing , he must not undertake to confute the Doctrine which it contains . ] Monsieur of Condom will permit me to tell him , That for to advance in his design , he should not have undertaken to prove his Doctrine , which he had only a design to explain . Between him and us , at present , the Question is not about the Truth of Doctrines , but only about their importance . [ The Question is , Whether many Disputes may vanish away by the Explications of the Faith of the Roman Church . And if the Disputes remaining be as Capital , as we would at first have made Men to believe . ] He had undertaken to prove , that these latter Disputes , according to our Principles , do not hurt the foundations of the Faith. These are his Words . Behold , what was his Business , and what he should have done . But he changes quite ; he puts an Illusion on us : He had promised us one thing , and doth another ; for instead of proving , that the Doctrines of Reality and Transubstantiation , according to our Principles , do not wound the Foundations of the Faith , he proves that they are true . I confess that this Turn is dextrous , having almost nothing to say to colour a Doctrine of that importance , and not willing to pass it by without speaking thereof , he hath taken the part of proving it . Without scruple , I will pass over his Proofs . Not but that I would do Justice to Monsieur of Condom , and would aknowledge here , as every where else , his Wit , his Delicateness , and his Dexterity , in turning curiously his ways of Reasoning . But in fine , Methinks I have read nothing in this place , but what hath been said many times , and whereto sufficient Answers have been often return'd . It 's very hard to terminate so grand an Affair with so short an Instruction , so short as we find here . I will content my self therefore , to conjure those who have any care of their Salvation , to consult such Authors as have written on this Matter , if the difficulties they may find in this place do occasion any such Scruple to arise in them . I can hardly believe , that such a thing may happen ; and I think , that those who shall suffer themselves to be taken thereby , shall have first designed to be deceived . In all that Monsieur de Condom saith about the Eucharist , there is nothing that maketh for his Subject , and tends to our purpose , but the Explication which he giv s to our Doctrine , and what he calls Reflexion on the Doctrine of the Eucharist . There , first he confesses , that there is nothing wherein we are so effectually opposite . So the Dispute cannot be nullified by the Explications of our Beliefs . Very far from that , the more we explain to the bottom , our selves , saith he , the more we shall find our selves contrary . He also grants , that it is an important Affair . There is nothing , saith he , which appears more important in our Controversies , since the Question is about the Presence of Jesus Christ himself . So that Monsieur de Condom cannot yet do here what he had at first proposed to do ; that is , to shew , That the remaining Disputes are not so Capital , as we at first would have made Men believe . He goes yet beyond all that . He pretends , that it is the only important Controversie ; and that if we can satisfie ovr selves about it , the rest shall vanish easily away . That is it which these Words signifie , One may wholly dissipate , or reduce to very few things , the others Subjects of their Complaints , so that things be explained . About all that we have somewhat to say . First , We would fain have Monsieur de Condom , and all those Gentlemen which do sollicite us to a Reunion , to discharge themselves of that Conceit , That this the sole important Matter . I grant that Reality , with all its Attendants , is the most important of our Controversies . And its Attendants are Transubstantiation , Adoration , the Sacrifice , the Retranchment of the Cup , and Masses , without Communicants . Yet , though they could satisfie us about them , these Doctors may know , that the rest would suffice to retain us in the Separation that we are in . We will never worship Creatures nor Images , under whatsoever Pretence . It is not a business less Capital than that of the Eucharist . We never will partake of a Worship composed of so many Ceremonies , so opposite to the Spirit of Christian Religion . We never will suffer the Veil of an Unknown Tongue to cover Divine Service . We never will yield to a Discipline so relaxed , as is that , which settles Indulgences , and will never receive that great Pomp of Human Satisfactions . We never will acknowledge an Authority Superiour to that of Gods Word , and will never receive any other Universal Head of the Church but Jesus Christ . Let none be deceived ; all that appears Capital to us . It is a great Illusion , which the Doctors of the Roman Church offer continually to our People : They suppose to them , that Real Presence is the only important Affair that we have with them ; and that , to the end , they may conclude that the rest is nothing , seeing this Point is tolerable , according to us , seeing we tolerate it in the Lutherans . I therefore Advertize all , that have a care of their Salvation , to keep well their Guard on that side ; to repulse this Temptation , holding for certain what I now declared , That besides Real Presence , we have many more things than needs , to separate us from the Communion of the Roman Church . Another thing whereof Monsieur de Condom shall permit me to Advertize him , is , That granting the importance of the Controversie of Reality , he considers Reality in it self severed from its Attendants . He passes with an unconceiveable swiftness , Transubstantiation and Adoration of the Eucharist , as if it were nothing . He saith not a word of Masses without Communicants , and regards the Sacrifice of the Mass , and Retranchment of the Cup , as Consequences , which do rise necessarily from the Doctrine of Reality , according to our own Confession . So he makes his Fort of the Real Presence only ; and all this , because he thinks to have found about it a great advantage in that we have done , in regard to the Lutherans . It is a Point , wherein we shall give satisfaction anon to them that sincerely seek their Salvation and the Truth . Mean while we declare , that Real Presence , precisely in it self and without its Attendants , is the least of our Controversies about the Eucharist ; that Adoration , Transubstantiation , the Sacrifice of the Mass , the Retranchment of the Cup , and Masses without Communicants , seem to us much more important . That those Attendants are not , according to us , Natural Attendants of the Real Presence , precisely in it self ; they are false and evil Consequences , which Men have drawn out of it . For it is but a bad Reasoning , in our Judgment , to say , The Body of Jesus Christ is Spiritually and Invisibly under the Accidents of Bread and Wine ; therefore it must be Sacrificed , therefore it must be adored , and we must retrench the Cup from the People . That is it which we shall particularly demonstrate . But before that , I shall give a Third Advice upon what Monsieur of Condom saith about the importance of the Controversie of the Real Presence . It is that granting it to be important , he dissembles all the Importance thereof . [ There is nothing , saith he , that appears more important in our Controversies , seeing the question is of the Presence of Jesus Christ himself . ] The Question is not only of that ; but , 1. The Question is , Whether we shall oppose all the Lights of our Senses , which say , that the Signs of the Eucharist are Bread and Wine ; and if we shall believe , that God doth continually offer Illusion to our Senses , which is opposite to his Verity and to his Purity . 2. The Question is , Whether we must suppose , that God doth every Moment , and without necessity violate the Laws of Nature , that are most inviolable , which is opposite to his Wisdom . 3. The Question is , Whether we shall receive a Theology , whereof the Consequences destroy all Christian Religion ; a Theology which confounds Body and Soul , and takes away the Bounds that distinguish them . A Doctrine , which supposing the Flesh of Christ becomes Spiritual , Invisible , subsisting under a Point , confounds the Body with the Soul. For I know not how else we can define the Properties of the Soul , but in saying , She is Invisible , without Extension , without Space , and concluded under a Point . This Doctrine also confounds Human Nature with the Divine ; for it gives to the Flesh of Jesus Christ ▪ that which belongs only to his Divinity , that is , to be in many Places at once , and be able to fill Heaven and Earth . It destroys the Article of Ascension , and robs the Church of that Proof , which she made use of against those Hereticks who denied the Truth of the Human Nature of Jesus Christ ; sor they opposed them by a Proof drawn from thence , That during the Life of the Lord , Men had always seen in him all the Actions , the Motions and Properties of Man. This Reasoning will be nothing worth , if a Body can be without its Properties , and if the Properties of a Body can be without a Body . 4. The Question is , Whether Men may settle such a manner of Interpreting Scripture , which will overthrow all Scripture , and will give place to all Heresies ; if by one passage alone one must explain an hundred others , which seem to say the contrary ; or if by the hundred , one should explain that which is alone . For , for one only passage that saith , That that which we see in the Eucharist is the Body of Jesus Christ , there are seven or eight others which say formally , That it is Bread and Wine . The Bread that we break . Whosoever shall eat this Bread. Whensoever you eat of this Bread. Let every one eat of this Bread. 5. The Question is to know , Whether we will belie our Lord Jesus Christ himself , and the Holy Ghost , who tells us , That we shall not have him always with us ; that he was going to Heaven ; that the Heaven must hold him till the restoration of all things . 6. The Question is , to know , Whether to avoid a Natural Figure in these Words , This is my Body , we shall expose Christian Religion to the scandal of Infidels ; yea , to the greatest Scandal that can be imagined . For , in fine , whilst they shall be able to reproach us , That we eat our own God , it is certain they will never come to us . 7. The Question is , Whether we should ruine one of the Sacraments of the Church , in destroying the Bread , in nullifying the Sign , and substituting in its place the Thing signified . 8. The Question is , to know , Whether we should draw down the Lord of Glory from the Throne of his Majesty , to nullifie him a second time ; but with an Annihilation greater than that which he descended into after his Incarnation . The Question is to know , If this be to respect Jesus Christ our Lord sufficiently , to call him down back , by the help of three Words ill explained , to place him in Impure places , to expose him to be trod under feet , to be eaten by the Profane , to be mingled with Poyson and with Death , and to a thousand other Dangers that one dares not express . 9. The Question is to know , finally , If for a Corporal Communion , without which one may be saved , and wherewith one may be damned , and which consequently is not necessary to Salvation ; we must overthrow all the Rules of Reason , of good Sense , of Grace , and of Nature . I know not , if after all this any one shall be able to say again , Reality and Transubstantiation , are not an Affair that should retain you , nor hinder you from re-entring into the Roman Church . Monsieur of Condom saith thereupon Two things , which are to the purpose , and which are to be examined . The first is , That we have shortned our selves those great Spaces of Separation . They have approached nearer to us , saith he , it is because we admit a Presence real ; It is because our Catechism saith , That Jesus Christ makes us partakers of his proper substance ; and our Confession of Faith , That he nourishes us with the Substance of his Body and Blood. It is because we say , That although Jesus Christ be truly communicated to to us by Baptism , and by the Gospel ; nevertheless it is but in part , and not fully . Thereupon my Lord of Condom Reasons after his manner , and as seems him good . Behold then , saith he , the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ present in our Mysteries , by the Grant of Calvinists . Behold , Jesus Christ received in his proper Substance . Jesus Christ is given us in the Eucharist , in a manner which suits neither Baptism nor the Gospel , and which is ▪ wholly proper to this Mystery . It follows then , that this Participation is not fixed to the Faith , seeing that Faith being diffused generally through all the Actions of a Christian , is found in the Preaching and in Baptism . First , I would fain know , what Service all this doth to the principal purpose of Monsieur de Condom , which is to reapproach us to himself . Are we nearer thereto because of some resemblance in the Terms ? Though we had ill explained our Doctrine , and by Incommodious Terms ; have we then changed it at the bottom ? And doth not he confess himself ▪ That the more we explain our selves , the more contrary we find our selves to be ? So all the trouble he takes to convince us by our Principles is more than useless . At the most , we should only be convinc'd to have spoken in one manner , and to have thought in another . But we will not yield him that very pleasure of believing that justly . We speak as we think , and our Expressions are not , as they would perswade us , an effect of that Politick , which is ordinary to such as estrange themselves from the Truth . It is that retaining the Sense of the true Church , they keep as far as they can possibly her own Expressions . We believe a Real Presence of the Body of Jesus Christ in the Supper , as we believe a Real Presence of the Sun upon Earth . No man mends to lie , nor doth he lie at all when he saith , That was done in the presence of the Sun. When the Sun is risen , he is present to us . Yet no Man hitherto hath busied his Head , to cause the Sun to descend from Heaven , and to shut him up substantially within one of his Beams . The Sun is really present by his Light , by his Beams , and by his Virtue . Christ's Humanity is present by its Virtue , by its Efficacy , by its Merit , which are as so many Beams . It is a Presence most Real , though it be not Corporal . And I wonder how my Lord of Condom hath not learn'd it from his Scholasticks : They that speaking of the manner wherein Causes do act , say , that some do act Immediatione Virtutis . by an immediate Presence of Vertues , and others Immediatione suppositi , by an immediate presence of Persons , of Suppost ▪ or Substance . Who should say to those Doctors of the School , That their immediate Presence of Virtue is a Chimaera , and is not a real Presence ? I believe they make stir enough about it , being so much in love with wrangling . We believe sincerely , as we speak it , that we are made partakers of the proper Substance of Jesus Christ , because we are not made partakers of the Substance of another ; because we receive the efficacy and merit of that Flesh really . And that is all that is important to our Salvation in that Flesh ; for otherwise it's Nerves , it 's Fibres ; it's Bones , as such , do not Sanctifie nor Justifie . The Flesh profits nothing , it is the Spirit that gives life , If they will repeat to Eternity , [ That it is not possible to make it to be understood , that a Body which is not communicated to us , but in Spirit and by Faith , be really communicated to us , and in its proper Substance . ] We cannot help it otherwise , than to repeat always also , that the Spiritual Actions of the Soul are as real and more real , than the Corporal Actions of the Body . Though the Spirit alone , by Faith , do see the Humanity of Christ Jesus in Heaven ; we believe that that Sight is more real , amd less subject to Illusion than that of Bodies , which shall see Jesus Christ with the Eyes of Flesh ; and I can hardly conceive , that Men can have their Comprehension of so great hardness , as not to be able to comprehend that . In fine , We believe that our Lord Jesus Christ is more fully communicated to us in the Eucharist , than in Baptism ; because we have in the Eucharist that which we have in Baptism , what we have in the Word of God , and somewhat more . It is not , that Jesus Christ and his Graces can be divided ; he that receives Jesus Christ , receives him whole , intirely . Yet the more that Grace is setled in our Souls , the more Means God employs to sortifie it there , and the more so far do we partake of Jesus Christ . Three are more than Two : When , after having received the Grace of Baptism , and Instruction by the Word , God doth also add thereto the Sacrament of the Eucharist , it is certain that Grace is confirmed , augmented and established thereby , and that we possess Jesus Christ more closely still . Besides , that it is certain , that Jesus Christ hath promised to communicate to us his Graces in a particular manner , and more efficacious in a Communion most devout , than in the Word ; because the Word doth propose Graces but in general , and a devout Communion applies them to every particular . I will not touch what Monsieur de Condom saith upon these Words of our Catechism , That the Body of our Lord Jesus Christ , inasmuch as it hath been once offered in Sacrifice to reconcile us to God , is now given to us to certifie us , that we have a share in that Reconciliation . I find what he saith thereon so fine , and of so great Subtilty , that I am assured , that they for whom this principally was written will hardly understand it ; and that they who have a Spirit Metaphysical enough to enter into these abstracted Reflexions , I believe they also will have penetration enough not to entangle themselves therewith . The other thing which Monsieur de Condom saith , which is to the purpose that we treat of , is , that we have offered Peace to the Lutherans , who believe the Real Presence ; and that we have declared , that this Doctrine hath no Venom at all ; that it doth not overthrow the Foundation of Faith ; and that it should not break Communion among Brethren . And thereupon they tell us , That whatever Evil might be in the Opinion of the Real Presence , we have taken from our selves the right of prevailing thereby . Seeing that you tolerate it in the Lutherans , why should you not tolerate it in Catholicks ? We oppose thereto , that they give Attendants to the Reality , which we cannot tolerate . Monsieur de Condom Answers , [ That no Subtilty of the Minesters shall ever be able to perswade Men of good Sense , that bearing with the Reality , which is the Point most important and difficult , they should not also bear with the rest . ] He adds , [ That by a secret Providence it hath happened that Calvinists have agreed , that supposing that we should take literally these Words , This is my Body , the Catholicks do Reason better and more consequently than the Lutherans . ] It would be presently a great rashness to hope that we may shut the Mouth of those Gentlemen about this Objection , which they have renewed within these 50 years more than a Million of times , and whereto Answer hath been made as often , without being able to obtain from them a Moment of Equity ▪ It is not then to them that I will speak , since they are resolved not to hear us ; it is to them that seek their Salvation with a Spirit of Humility ; and I pray them to consider , 1. That what we have offered to the Lutherans , is infinitely different from that which they demand of us at this day . We have offered to the Lutherans , to tolerate them in the Doctrine of the Real Presence ; and they demand of us to re enter into the Roman Church to make Profession thereof . Have we offered to the Lutherans , to re-enter into their Communion ▪ to break our Assemblies to incorporate them with Theirs ▪ and to make Profession of the Real Presence ? We have offered only to them , in remaining still separate from them ▪ as We are , both by Assemblies and by some Ceremonies external , little important ; to tolerate them , to regard them as our Brethren , to receive them when they will come to us , without obliging them to an express abjuration of the Doctrines that separate us . Behold , what we have offered . And it is demanded of us , That abandoning our Assemblies , our Ceremonies , and our Doctrines , and particularly that of the Real Presence , we should re-unite ; that is to ▪ say , that we re-enter , without any more ado , into the Roman Church , to believe the Real Presence , or at least to make Profession of believing it . There is so great difference between tolerating an Errour , and to make Profession of believing that Errour ; that the former may be an action of Charity , and the second cannot be but an abominable Hypocrisie : The one serves towards Salvation , and by the other we evidently hazard our Salvation . I can say with assurance , that if we should re-enter into the Lutheran Church , and that we should bring back our People to them , to make their Profession of the Real Presence , we should commit a Crime that God would never pardon us . After that , they would have Ministers to lead back their People into the Roman Church , without Mystery , to make their Profession of the Real Presence , which is a thousand times more dangerous , than what we tolerate in the Lutherans . 2. We may further tolerate the Real Presence of the Lutherans without tolerating that of the Roman Church , because there is a very great difference between the one and the other . But before we pass further , it is good to remark , that what those Doctours say is not true , That we regard that Real Presence of the Lutherans as a light Errour . It is a great Evil , and to cure our Brethren of it , we would willingly have given half our own Blood. And what we have offered to tolerate them , it was principally in hope to bring them back , by little and little , from their wandring . If then we say , that their is no Venom in that Opinion , we understand it of mortal Venom , and a killing One. It is enough to confess some Venom in an Opinion , to acknowledge therein some Absurdities , which dishonour Reason , and blast Christian Religion , and we acknowledge it too much in the Real Presence of the Lutherans . But it is true , that we believe not that it destroys any foundation of Faith. We regard it principally in that manner , wherein it is expressed in their Confession , which saith , [ Touching the Lords Supper , they teach that the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ are truly present , and are distributed to them who eat at the Lords Supper , and condemn those who say the contrary . ] There is nothing in these general Words that we might not subscribe to . As for the manner of this Presence , they are reserved , and define it not . They say , Jesus Christ is there ; but we know not how . If there be any which do pass rashly further in setling what they call Ubiquity , that is to say , the Presence of Christ's Humanity in all places of the World , that passes not among them for a Fundamental Point . The Real Presence of the Lutherans doth not destroy the Bread , for they confess that the Signs are of true Bread and true Wine ; and according to that , they do not suppose that God offers perpetually an Illusion to our Senses to make us see and feel a Body , where there is not a Body . They do not destroy the Sacrament , seeing they leave the Signs entire . The Real Presence of the Lutherans hath not for Attendants the Adoration of the Eucharist , and obliges not Men to adore a Creature . It doth not induce a Sacrifice of the Body and Blood of the Lord Jesus Christ . Among the Lutherans , they have not retranched the Cup from the People . In fine , It is not accompanied with an infinite Number of Worships , of Ceremonies , and of Doctrines , which be incompatible with the purity of the Faith. In that Church , they do not Worship Images , they do not Invoke Saints , they do not prostrate themselves before Relicks ; they serve God in a Known Tongue , they acknowledge no Mediator but Jesus Christ ; no other Satisfaction , but his Merit ; any other Indulgence , but his Grace ; any other Soveraign Authority but his own , and that of his Word . In a word , Let the Roman Church set her Real Presence in the same state , as is that of the Lutherans , and we will offer to them the same thing which we offer to these , so they will not ask us any more ; that is to say , that we will offer them a Toleration , so that she will not demand us to re-enter into her Communion . For yet once more , We never offered to conjoyn with the Lutheran Church , whilst they abide in the state wherein they are , and we will never do it for any thing in the World. 3. I must yet Advertize once more these Gentlemen , that for to know the poyson of an Errour , one must principally regard it in that which is diffused on practice , both of the Worship and of Morality . Then for to know how dangerous the Real Presence is , we must not regard it in her self , but in the Attendants given it ; that is , Adoration , the Sacrifice , and the Retranchment of the Cup. There it is that the danger lies , and that is it that the Lutherans have not . [ No subtilty of the Ministers , saith Monsieur de Condom , shall ever be able to perswade Men of good Sense , that bearing with the Reality , which is the most important Point , and the more difficult , they ought not also to tolerate the rest . ] How can the Ingenuity and Light of Monsieur of Condom permit him to say that ? What if they tolerate a Speculative Opinion , which changes nothing in the Worship and in the Religion , shall we be obliged to tolerate the Adoration of a Creature , which is of all things most opposite to the Foundations of Faith ? If a Man be perswaded that God is in the Sun , by a presence of Substance , greater than that wherewith he is in the rest of the World , it would be an absurd Opinion . But I know not whether there be any Person , that would damn a Man for that alone ; but if that Man would conclude from that Errour , that Men ought to worship the Sun , and should himself so worship it , what Sentiment should we have of him ? As for me , I would tolerate his Errour as a Visionary Thought ; but I would abhor him as an Idolater , because of his Conclusion . If then to perswade Men , it may be sufficient to express things with a great Assurance ; I say , there will never be any subtilty or disguise that may perswade Men of good Sense , that Toleration for a Real Presence , should induce to a Toleration for the Attendants , which the Roman Church gives it . They say to that , That they are not Attendants given thereto , but that they are Natural Attendants , and that even the Calvinists do agree , that supposing that one must take literally these Words , This is my Body ; Catholicks reason better and more Consequentially than the Lutherans . ] We do not confess , that it is good that the Publick should be advertized of it . It is a surprizing Slander , that Facts of this kind should be advanc'd without proof . Monsieur Daillé , in his Apology for the Reformed Churches , employs a whole Chapter to prove the contrary . Monsieur de Langres hath published a Sermon upon these Words , Be ye such , as to give no stumbling Block neither to the Jew nor to the Greek ; wherein he proves , That Adoration is not an Attendant of the Lutherans Real Presence ; and I will make it appear , that it is not an Attendant even of the Roman Churches Real Presence . If any of ours have confessed what Mon-Monsieur of Condom saith , it was in the heat of Dispute against the Lutherans , and we make no difficulty to disown it . But the following Articles will oblige us to penetrate further into this Matter , and to prove , that Adoration , the Sacrifice , &c. are not Natural Attendants of the Real Presence . ARTICLE XI . Of the Adoration of the Host. WE are going to make a Chapter of a Point , whereon Monsieur de Condom hath made but one Period ; which is this , [ I will not stay upon the Point of Adoration , because the most Learned and most Judicious of our Adversaries have long ago granted us , That the Presence of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist , ought to carry to Adoration those that are perswaded thereof . ] And after that they would accuse Anonyme , that he had accused Monsieur de Condom , to pass by the difficulties which he finds most troublesom , Is it possible that Monsieur de Condom should imagine , that we are so deprived of common Sense , to suffer our selves to be surprized by such Illusions ? He will not stay upon the Adoration of the Eucharist . He shall do what pleases him ; but he may permit me to stay thereon ▪ and that I may shew to all them , who are sollicited to change their Religion , that this is a Capital Affair ; and that for this Article alone , there is no less danger than of their Salvation , by such a Change. I have no need to stand upon that Truth , which is acknowledged of all the World , that God doth absolutely forbid the Adoration of the Creature under Eternal Pains . I will observe only , that in the business here in agitation , we tread not upon Thorns , as w do at other times , when we are obliged to express the Sense of the Roman Church . For Example , when we speak of the Worship , which they render to the Saints and Images . We know not in what Terms to speak the Truth ; for within this short time these Gentlemen thrust on their Delicateness to the extream . Here it is not so . As they keep no measure , they do not oblige us to keep any ; the most Scrupulous speak freely ; they say roundly , That Men must adore the Sacrament with Adoration of Latria . They are the terms of the Council ; There is no plea for doubt , but that all the Faithful , according to the Custom , which hath always been received in the Catholick Church , owe to this most Holy Sacrament , in the veneration thereof , the Adoration of Latria , which is due to the True God. Let us learn what is meant by this Adoration of Latria . It is a Soveraign Adoration ; it is an Act of infinite Annihilation of the Creature before the Creator ; it is a Worship which concludes all the Acts of Faith and Love , Hope and Admiration , Confidence , Zeal and Acknowledgment ; and in general , all Homages due to a Being infinitely Good and infinitely Merciful . Behold , what they would have us to render to that , which we consider but as a Creature . This is the business which they would dispatch in a Period . To know of what importance this Adoration is , let 's first consider it in respect to our Principles , and then we will consider it with respect to the Principles of Monsieur de Condom , and of his Church . I must then entreat these Gentlemen , that they would presuppose for a moment with me , that we Reason in giving a figurative Sense to these Words , This is my Body . In a moment I will have for them the same Complaisance which I now ask of them , and I will suppose , that the Sense which they give unto these Words be true , In this Supposition , that here is no Real Presence , no Transubstantiation , I pray them to consider what is done in adoring this Sacrament . They worship Bread ; and I know not whether Bread , how holy soever it be , be more worthy to be adored than the Sun and Stars , which are so beautiful , and wherein God's Image shines with so much brightness . What would be said of a Man , that should worship the Water of Baptism , the Sounds of God's Word , the Characters of the Holy Scripture ? I confess that the Sacraments , though one should even suppose that Jesus Christ is not concluded within it , is a thing most holy , and most venerable . But there is an infinite distance between Reverence and Adoration . We owe respect to the Gospel and to Baptism , we owe them no Adoration . But here is a Thought , whereby we know very well , that many Persons who are not very well perswaded of the Real Presence , do flatter themselves and others . Although , say they , the Body of Jesus Christ were not there , whatever it be we adore it ; wherever it be our Adoration doth terminate in him ; and we shall always have this Reason to give before the Throne of God , I had intention to adore you . I am perswaded that this Excuse shall not be received by the Judge of the World. He must then justifie almost all the Pagans , who in adoring the Creatures had an intention of Adoring God. Then should he shew favour to those Jews which adored the Golden Calf , for they had an intention to adore God. That appears evidently enough in what they say of that Calf , These are thy gods , O Israel , which have brought thee out of the Land of Egypt . Can they be thought brutish enough to have thought , that the figure of this Calf , which was but now made before their Eyes , had brought them out of Egypt before it was made ? Who sees not , that they regarded this Calf , as the Image and Emblem of that Great GOD , who had done so many Wonders in their favour ? Yet had the Wrath of Gnd almost consumed them with all their good Intentions . And if one believes the Jews of this day , their present Calamity is still an Attendant thereof ; for they have a Proverb that says , That in every one of their Miseries there is a part of the Golden Calf . Men say , I direct my Intention to Jesus Christ , whatever part he be in . In Conscience let them tell me ▪ if a Man , which with the like direction of Intention should adore the Sun and the Moon , would be innocent ? Jesus Christ is not there , but he may be there ; he is there at least by his Divinity . It is true , there are some particular Doctors in the Roman Church who have advanced this Doctrine , That one may worship God in any Creature : Prostrate himself before a Beam of the Sun , under which a Demon should lie hid ; yea , before a Straw , before a Pismire ▪ &c. so that Intention be directed towards God. But I will believe that honest Men do not relish this strange Theology . Men should know , methinks , that Errours can never excuse Crimes , unless some Errours of Fact , and even supportable Errours . One shall not be acquitted for saying , I believe ; for the Judge will Answer , You should have inform'd your self , and have been instructed . What difference find they between the language of a Pagan , that should say , I believed that the Sun and Moon were gods , therefore I adored them ; and that of a Christian ▪ that shall say , I believed that the Sacrament was Jesus Christ , therefore I adored it ? There is a great one , say they ; The Scripture hath said nothing which should give ground of believing , that the Sun and Moon are to be worshipped ; but it hath said , That the Eucharist is the Body of Jesus Christ . So , although that should not be so , God would be obliged to pardon me , since he hath given occasion to the Errour , by the Words which he hath used . That is the Question , whether Scripture give place to the Opinion of the Real Presence by its Expressions . There is no Heretick but would escape the Judgment of God by that way ; for there is none that pretends not , that the Scripture hath given place to his Heresie . A Text ill understood , can never serve to excuse neither an Heresie nor a False worship . Origen teaches us , That the Ancient Fathers that preceded him , had imagined , that God had given the Sun and the Moon to the Nations that they might worship them ; choosing rather that they should be Idolaters , than Atheists , They grounded this Opinion upon a Text which is read in Deuteronom . 4. When thou shalt see the Sun and the Moon , &c. thou shalt not bow down before them , and shalt not serve them ; for the Lord hath given them for a Portion to all Nations that are under Heaven ; that is to say , according to the gloss of Justin Martyr and Clement Alexandrin : He hath given them to be the Objects of their Adoration of People . If the Pagans had had the knowledge of that Text so ill explained , and that they would thereby justifie themselves , would they be accepted thereto ? If a Woman should defile her Bed , committing Adultery with a Man that she had taken for her Husband , upon slight appearances , should she be the less Criminal for it ? When Men are in danger of taking away from God , that which pertains to him alone , for to give it to the Creature , one had need take all Securities possible . Doubt not of it , it is a Worship which cannot be forgiven , to adore God in the Creatures , and to adore the Creatures under Intention of serving God. It is a deep Hypocrisie to prostrate ones self before the Sacrament , being perswaded that it is but Bread , or even in doubting whether the Body of Christ Jesus be there . Therefore I cannot forbear to remark by the by , that there is Cruelty in them that would have Protestants to prostrate before the Sacrament , when they meet it . It is to oblige them to an action of Hypocrisie , yea , to an action of Cruelty : For every Man that prostrates himself externally before an Image , which he doth not adore with adoration of heart , he is a Profane Man as well as an Hypocrite . See then with what Justice these Gentlemen would oblige us to re-enter into the Roman Church before we be perswaded of the Real Presence , for to commit there , in adoring the Sacrament , which we regard as Bread , the most Criminal of Actions that can be committed in the Divine Service . Considering the manner wherein Monsieur of Condom Reasons , I believe he will easily grant me what I proved but now , That even in supposing Real Absence in the Sacrament , one might not render it Adoration of Latria . But I pass further , and now will suppose with him , that these Words , This is my Body , should be taken in the Sense of the Real Presence ; and I maintain that with this Supposition , To adore the Sacrament is a Fault that cannot be forgiven , and a Worship which overthrows the Foundations of Religion . First , If we suppose that Jesus Christ is in the Eucharist , these Gentlemen will permit us to suppose it with all the Exceptions , which themselves bring thereto . According to them Jesus Christ is there , but he is not there infallibly . Want of Intention in the Priest , a defect in the Matter ; if they put into the hands of him that celebrates , a Body which is not well composed of Flour , a Liquor that be not Wine ; if the Priest be not Baptized , if he be not a Priest ; if he hath forgotten to pronounce these Words , This is my Body , which may happen too often , because they recite the Canon of the Mass without thinking of it , and with great swiftness . In all these Cases the Body of Christ comes not , Consecration is not done . Those that assist at the Celebration of the Mystery , cannot then have a perfect certainty , that-what they adore is Jesus Christ . Yet we see them prostrate themselves , and give the Worship of Latria to that Object , which according to their Principles may be nothing else but Bread. Would not that put Men into a fright ? What Remedy can Men find against so great a peril ? Shall it be to oblige the Adorers to say , I adore you my Saviour , if you be there ? Here would I attest the Conscience of these Gentlemen , and would ask them , If of a thousand Adorers , or it may be of a Million , if there be any one that doth make this Reserve either with Mouth or Heart ? All the World adore in earnest , as if it were indubitable that Jesus Christ is there ; but do they believe that Men were excusable , though they should make that Reserve in adoring it ? Should Men ever expose themselves to the peril of rendring an Infinite Homage to a Creature , and to annihilate ones self before that which is Nothing ? You worship what you know not ; this was the Crime of the Samaritans . Seeing it is impossible to clear ones self absolutely , even within the Principles of the Real Presence , whether Jesus Christ be truly in the Eucharist : Is it not better to worship him in that place , where we know him to be assuredly ? But let 's put on our Complaisance for these Gentlemen , as far as it can go ; let 's be more Catholick than they ; let us suppose that the Body of Jesus Christ is always undoubtedly in the Eucharist . I will demonstrate , that even in this last Supposition , it cannot be lawful to adore the Sacrament . I say , Demonstrate ; for if I be not extreamly blinded , I do not believe there is a Demonstration more sensible than what I am going to say . I will therefore first lay down those Principles which these Gentlemen will grant . 1. That God is every where , that he fills all places , and penetrates all Creatures , and particularly all Bodies ; yet would it be an Idolatry to adore him in the Creatures , that is to say , to adore Creatures wherein he is . For Example , God penetrates by his Substance Dogs and Horses ; he penetrates all Marble Statues and Brass , which have been made to represent the Worthies of the Pagans , or their False gods . Yet it would be truly Idolatry , if one should prostrate himself before those Animals , or before those Statues , to adore them , under pretence , that God fills them . 2. My Second Principle is , That the Body of Jesus Christ , according to the Doctrine of the Roman Church , is in the Bread of the Eucharist after the manner of Spirits , without extent , without division , invisible , inpalpable ; and to speak it in other terms , The Body of Christ Jesus doth not fill the Bread in another manner , than the Substance of the Deity doth fill the Brass or Marble . If any say , that this Principle is false , and that the Substance of the Body of Jesus Christ doth fill the Signs of the Eucharist , by the annihilation of the Substance of the Bread and Wine , whereas God doth fill the Marbles without altering their Substance . I will Answer , That this doth nothing against our Principle . If the Presence of the Humanity of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist doth annihilate the Substance of the Bread , it is because God would have it so , for to place the Substance of Jesus Christ under the Bread , it 's not worth the pains to annihilate the Substance of the Bread. It is evident , that the Flesh of the Lord , which penetrates it self in the Eucharist , could also penetrate the Substance of the Bread. That Answer would therefore serve only to let us see the uselessness of Transubstantiation , and of the Annihilation of the Substance of the Bread. In truth , seeing they had need here only of the Real Presence , it was not worth the pain to add thereto Annihilation , or Change of Substance , which adds a thousand difficulties to those of the Real Presence . However it be , I pretend that according to the Principles of the Roman Church , the Flesh of Jesus Christ is not otherwise in the Eucharist , than the Substance of God in Common Bread , or within any other Body . The Flesh of Jesus Christ is wholly entire in the whole Eucharist ; it is entirely whole under every part thereof . The Substance of God is entirely whole in every Body , and wholly entire under every one of the Parts of that Body . The Flesh of Jesus Christ is wholly entire out of the Eucharist , as it is wholly entire within it . The Substance of the Divinity is wholly entire without every Body , and wholly entire within that Body . The Flesh of Jesus Christ is in the Eucharist in a manner indivisible and without extension . The Substance of God is within each Body , without any division , and without any extension of Parts . In fine , I am assured that one cannot find any Essential difference , and that may concern our Subject , between these two Manners of Subsisting ; One of the Divinity in all Bodies , the other of the Flesh of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist . 3. My Third Principle is , That the Divinity , which so penetrates all Bodies in the World , is infinitely more adorable than the Flesh of Jesus Christ , which penetrates and fills the Signs of the Eucharist . For the Divinity is adorable by himself , and because of himself ; but the Humanity of Jesus Christ is only co-adorable , as the Ancients have spoken ; that is to say , that it merits not to be adored , but because it is Personally united to the Divinity . 4. In fine , my last Principle is a Truth of Experience and Sense ; it is , That the Change which is wrought in the Signs of the Eucharist , hinders not the Signs from being entirely filled with Creatures . The Substance of Bread and Wine is therein no more , I suppose it with those Gentlemen . Yet let them take a Loaf of Bread of whatever bigness they please , let a Priest consecrate it ; let it be traversed , penetrated on all parts ; let it be divided and broken into parts almost imperceptible : yet every where we still find something figur'd , colour'd , round , or square , or triangular , white or black , small or big ; and all that we taste in penetrating this Subject on all sides , they are Creatures . These Principles then being laid , see how I reason . If it be permitted me to adore the Sacrament of the Eucharist , which is all replenished and filled up with Creatures , only because the Flesh of Jesus Christ doth fill it in a Spititual manner , without division and without extension ; why should it not be permitted to adore the Marble and the Brass , which are full of the Divinity , which is infinitely more adoreable , and which is present in this Brass , in that manner that the Flesh of Jesus Christ is present in the Signs of the Eucharist ? Or else I thus tutn my Reasoning ; God is present in this Marble , he fills it , he is there in a manner incomprehensible and adorable . Yet is it not permitted me to prostrate my self before this Marble to adore it ; to take parts thereof to be adored by the Faithful , or to carry them in Pomp. Why ? Because that if God be in the Marble , there is also a Creature there , it is full of it ; and I could not adore this Subject , which is in part Creature , in part Creatour ; but that I should thereby give a Soveraign Adoration to the Creature , that which the Creatou● doth Soveraignly detest . I make application of my Principles to my Subject . It is true , the Flesh of Jesus Christ is in the Species of the Eucharist ; but under those Species all is full of Creatures , of Accidents , of Figures , of Colour , of Quantity . I could not therefore adore therein my Creatour , but at the same time I must adore the Creature , which is conjoyn'd to him . If they know any Answer to that Proof , they will do us a kindness to give it us . After that believe those Gentlemen , when they tell us with an assured Tone , That the Presence of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist ought necessarily to carry them towards Adoration , that are perswaded thereof , If the Adoration of the Eucharist be not an Attendant of the Real Presence , as the Roman Church conceives it ; by stronger Reason , the Real Presence of the Lutherans will not carry them to Adoration , who are perswaded thereof ; for it is well known , that the Lutherans do keep the Substance of the Bread after Consecration . They do not believe it to be Annihilated . That Substance of Bread , which remains in their Sacrament , should cause in them more fear , than the Accidents do to the Roman Church . They should fear to adore the Creatour in a Subject , which remains a Creature after Consecration , as much as it was before . So that these Gentlemen do make Illusion to the Publick , when they say , That , by the Calvinists Grant , the Catholicks do Reason more consequentially in this Subject , than the Lutherans do . Before we conclude this Article it is good to mark ▪ that Monsieur de Condom doth suppose , That all the Lutherans reject not Adoration ; Some of them , saith he , reject Adoration . The most of them then do receive it , since there are but some that reject it . Monsieur de Condom teaches us there something new . These are Facts important enough , not to be advanc'd without Proof ; but that doth not very much concern us . If Monsieur de Condom be not deceived , we declare to him , That the Lutherans , which adore so , are not those to whom we offer Union ; with a good heart we declare Anathema to such . But let 's grant them also this Point : Suppose that the Lutherans do Reason less congruously than the Roman Catholicks ; what imports it me ? To Reason ill , not to know how to draw a Consequence , is it a Crime against Piety and Religion ? A Man may have odd Opinions , whereof , if he perceives the Consequences , he might see that they ruine all Religion ; but he abhors those Consequences , and rejects them . Another , which hath the same Opinions , hath more penetration ; he sees the true Attendants of his Principles , he admits them , he ruins all . Because that my Charity obliges me to bear the Fancies of the former , shall I be obliged to tolerate the Impiety of the latter ? The Lutheran believes , That the Body of Jesus Christ is present in the Eucharist ; if he did reason Consequentially , he would say , Then I must adore him there . In so Reasoning and so Adoring , he would commit , according to us , a very great Evil. But he doth not think good to Reason in that manner ; therefore he will not adore it ; he keeps to his Fantastical Opinion , to believe , That Jesus Christ is present in the Substance of the Bread. The Roman Catholick holds with him the Real Presence ; but he goes further , he Reasons better , if they please and concludes , that they must Adore ; according to me he becomes guilty of an extream Evil. Is it the same thing ? Because I tolerate the first with his Erroneous Opinions , ought I to tolerate the second with his Worship , which I find absolutely incompatible with the purity of Religion , although he Reasons more Consequentially than the first ? In a word , It imports us but little that People do not Reason well , so that they do no Evil ▪ If any Man , as Hercules furious , should take his Children for little Monsters , and yet ceases not from Caressing them , he is not Criminal ; but if in supposing that these Children be Monsters , and in reasoning Consequentially , doth crush his Children to death , because Monsters must be so served , he is guilty of Murther . I will only add now two Reflexions in favour of those for whom I write , they are such who in good earnest do seek Instruction about the Truth . The first is , That we should not , after all this , trouble our selves to prove to the Roman Church , that they adore the Creature with the Creatour in the Sacrament of the Eucharist ; for they agree thereto . These are the Terms of the Council of Trent ; We must render to this Holy Sacrament the Adoration of Latria . The Sacrament is composed of the Flesh of Jesus Christ invisible , and of the sensible Accidents of Bread and Wine . They adore the whole Sacrament ; they adore then the Accidents of Bread and Wine , which are the Creatures . And thereupon we may not forget to remark it to these Gentlemen , that they are unjust to invite us to Re-union , until they shall have proved , that one may innocently render to the Creature this Adoration of Latria , which even , according to them , ought to be rendred only to the Creatour . The other Reflexion is , That we may also exempt our selves from entring into the bottom of the Question ▪ and say , That although it might be true that Jesus Christ is in the Eucharist , and that one might adore him there , I would still hold me to my practise , which is to Worship only in the Heavens . Reason suggests to us , that in all things we should take the surest part , and less dangerous . If the Body of Christ Jesus be not in the Eucharist , they that adore this Sacrament commit an infinite Evil. If the Body of Jesus Christ be there , they that worship him not , as there , do no Evil at all , or their fault is so light , that Men know not what Name to give it . I do not adore Jesus Christ in the Eucharist , because I know not whether he be there ; I am not the more Impious thereby , because I adore him in Heaven , where I know he is . But he that adores the Sacrament , if Jesus Christ be not there , he adores the Creature , and his fault is infinitely greater than mine . I will make sensible , by one Example , the great difference that is between the Roman Catholick , in case he be deceived about the Real Presence ; and that of the Protestant , in case he be mistaken in holding Real Absence . Suppose we that a King hath two sorts of Subjects ; some are scrupulous and fearful , they will not render homage to their Prince whilst he lies hid in his Retirements , inaccessible and invisible to all the World , because they fear that the King is not there ; but as soon as this King comes forth to appear in publick , that they hear his Voice , they prostrate themselves before him , and do render a perfect Obedience . The other Subjects are in an Extremity quite opposite ; They not only Reverence the King without seeing him , and without knowing him ; but meeting an unknown Person calling himself their King , though he be not , without further inquiry , they suffer themselves to be seduced by light Appearances , joyn this false Prince to their true King , and render the same honour to this Imaginary Soveraign , as to their true Prince . Is it not very easie to discern the difference which is between these two sorts of Persons ? Hardly can one find the shadow of Sin in the first sort ; but it is clear , that the Second sort are guilty of Treason . Their Ignorance doth not excuse them , seeing that in such Affairs Men are obliged to get Instruction . We are those scrupulous Subjects , we will not adore Jesus Christ where we are not sure that he is ; but we adore him where he is assuredly . We are not then guilty , neither of refusing to our Prince the Homage we owe him ; nor of giving to any other what we owe only to him . The Roman Catholicks are those other Subjects so imprudent , that they suffer themselves to be deceived by him who is not their Prince , and which render him the same Honours as to their King. This Reasoning and this Example do manifest evidently , I think , that the Roman Church could without any Risk adhere to our Worship , and not adore Jesus Christ in the Eucharist , though he were there ; because that adoring Jesus Christ in Heaven , that would suffice to keep them from being Impious . But for us , it is impossible to adhere to their Worship , if Jesus Christ be not there , since we should hazard the adoring what is not God. This is what I had to say of Adoration ; after that , I leave it to be judged , if it were a business to be ended in a Period . It is great Wisdom in Monsieur de Condom , to have drawn a Curtain of Silence over a Worship , for the Justification whereof nothing was to be said . But the Care of our Salvation must oblige us not to abide by that which he hath said unto us ; for we must consider this Article as being capable of keeping us in an Eternal Separation from the Roman Church , though it were that alone , about which we could not agree . ARTICLE XII . Of the Sacrifice of the Mass . WE are come at last to the Sacrifice of the Mass . This is the place wherein they believe , that Monsieur de Condom and the Author of the Advertisement do triumph in Explications and in Sweetnings . I wonder how the World do blind themselves without any appearing Reason : As for me , I never conceived any thing in the Sacrifice of the Mass , but what Monsieur de Condom makes us see therein ; and yet have I always minded that Affair , as the greatest that can be between two Religions . I always believed that , according to the Roman Church , the Eucharist was made a true Sacrifice . Doth Monsieur de Condom deny it ? On the contrary , he speaks it in Terms as express as may be . [ So the Son of God is put on the Holy Table , by virtue of these Words , &c. Jesus Christ being present doth there renew and perpetuate , in some sort , the Memory of his Obedience to the death of the Cross . So that nothing is wanting there to be a true Sacrifice . ] And a little after , [ A Sacrifice nevertheless most true , in that Jesus Christ is truly contained and presented to God under this figure of Death . ] I always conceived , that this Sacrifice is not only a Sacrifice of Thanksgiving , but that it is truly Propitiatory . Dare Monsieur de Condom deny it ? I think not ; for they are the very Words of the Council of Trent , [ Docet Sancta Synodus Sacrificium istud verè Propitiatiorum . The Holy Council declares , that it is a Sacrifice truly Propitiatory . ] And I find , that Monsieur de Condom agrees thereto in these Words , [ We think that this Oblation causes God to become mere propitious to us , and therefore we call it Propitiatory . We present to God the Lord Jesus Christ in a true Sacrifice , as our only Victim , and our only Propitiation by his Blood. ] Either I understand nothing in these Terms , or they signifie , that we offer the Lord Jesus Christ in a Sacrifice truly Propitiatory to God , to render him propitious to us , and to obtain remission of our Sins . It is a true Sacrifice , according to Monsieur de Condom ; it is also a Propitiatory Sacrifice , according to him . There is no need of Logick to conclude ; then , according to him , it is a Sacrifice truly Propitiatory . In fine , I have conceived , that in this Sacrifice the Church doth the Office of an Offerer ; that Jesus Christ is the Victim , and that God is he to whom they offer that Oblation truly Propitiatory . Have we been mistaken ? I think not ; for I believe I see that very thing in these Words of Monsieur de Condom , We unite our selves to him in that state , and we offer him to God as our only Victim . This is the state of the Controversie , and I never conceived another . To annihilate this Controversie , those Gentlemen fain some differences among us , that never were . The Author of the Advertisement saith ; [ That we regard with horrour the Sacrifice of their Altars , as if they should make Jesus Christ to die once again . ] We declare , that we never had such a thought . I conceive not how these Gentlemen have forgotten , that one of our Proofs against this Sacrifice is drawn thence , That Jesus Christ dieth not there . We say , there never was a true Sacrifice of a living Oblation , wherein the Oblation did not receive death . How then should we accuse them , to cause Jesus Christ to die on their Altars ? Monsieur of Condom , to cause to reapproach to him , amplifies the Terms of Sacrifice and Commemoration which they and we make use of , because we agree , that the Eucharist is the Commemoration of the Sacrifice of Jesus Christ . He concludes , that then , according to us , it is a Sacrifice of Commemoration . We must not mistake here ; there is difference between the Commemoration of a Sacrifice , and a Sacrifice of Commemoration , as between the Day and the Night . In fine , Monsieur of Condom labours hard to tell us , That they have no design to offer to God a new Payment , and that it is not a new Oblation . We know it well enough ; the Council of Trent had told us so , and even had said more too ; [ It is , saith it , one single and the same Oblation ; and he that offers himself now by the Ministry of the Priest , is the same that offered himself on the Cross . ] But doth that avail any thing towards the bottom of the Question ? Be it the same Oblation and the same Sacrifice , and consequently the same payment ; will that hinder the Question from remaining the same , viz. If it be just and reasonable to present daily Jesus Christ in a Sacrifice truly Propitiatory for the Sins both of the Living and of the Dead ? We must presently see , whether this be so small a Controversie as they would perswade us ; and if we can re-enter into the Roman Church whilst this Sacrifice shall subsist there . To dispatch this difference , I must pray the Doctours to make some Reflexions with me . 1. I will suppose a Truth which cannot be gainsaid ; that is , That Sacrifices have always made up the Essence of that which they call the Externals of Religion , and consequently they are always an Essential difference among Religions . With the Pagans , one Religion was made to differ from others by their Sacrifices ; Paganism was different from the Judaism by their Sacrifices , which had another Object , another Matter , and which were done in Ceremonies very different . In fine , It seems to me , that the Essential difference for the Exteriour , between the Religion of the Ancient Jews and that of the Christians , consists , in that they had Sacrifices , and we have none ; for it is not , that we serve another God than that of the Israelites ; it is , that we serve him otherwise . That being so , is it not true that there is an Essential difference among Christians that have Sacrifices , and they that offer none ? If there had been any Jews who had denied the Necessity of Sacrifices , and who had condemned the use of killing Oblations in the Temple of Jerusalem , would not those People have been the Abomination of all the rest of the People ? If they had made a Party ; if they had separated , and that they had built a new Temple where they had offered no Sacrifice to God ; had Men believed that those People had had the same Religion with the other Jews , because they had worshipp'd the same God who brought them out of Egypt ? If it be the Intention of Jesus Christ , that there shall be in his Church a perpetual Sacrifice of his Body and of his Blood ; we must not flatter our selves , we follow not the Religion of Jesus Christ . But if that continual Sacrifice hath not been instituted by the Lord , assuredly they make a new Christianism , and a new Religion . The Question then is to know , if without any other Mystery we should pass into a Religion which is Essentially different from ours ? 2. But it is not only the Question to know , If Men should introduce into the Church a new Sacrifice ; but , if Men should Sacrifice the Lord Jesus Christ , the Son of the Living God. It is the greatest Oblation , the Noblest and most important in the World. And that deserves well , methinks , to have Reflexion made thereon before we engage to Re-union , whereto they invite us . If any rash Person would sprinkle with the Blood of Oxen and Sheep their Altars , according to the Usage of all People and of the Ancient Church , there would not be Thunders enough to crush to death such an Undertaker . If such an Impious Man should form a Society , wherein they might practice such Sacrifices , they would arm all the Powers of Christianism to abolish such a Religion . Yet would that agitation be but about the Sacrifices of some Beasts . The business is , to Sacrifice the God of Heaven , the Master of the World , and they will perswade us ; that it is a business of Nothing . 3. The Question again is to know , Whether they should put into the hands of a Man the GOD of the Universe , as an Oblation , in the hands of a Sacrificer ; that is , if we should debase the Creatour into the hands of a Creature ? It is a Truth , which good Sense dictates among all Nations and all Ages , that the Sacrificer is greater than the Oblation . Without contradiction , the lesser is blessed of the greater . It is the Principle of St. Paul , the Priest blesses the Oblation . They put the Lord Jesus Christ into the hands of a Priest , as an Oblation ; they then lift up the Priest above Jesus Christ . We cannot but have regard to that , as to a very good Affair . 4. We cannot also keep our selves from seeing ▪ that this Doctrine doth annihilate the Priesthood of Jesus Christ by good and legitimate Consequences ; If the Lord Jesus Christ was to have Successors in his Off ce of Priest , he is not then himself an Eternal Priest . Either St. Paul's Reasoning is bad , or my Proof is invincible : For , in fine I Reason like him . He said , If Perfection had been in the Levitical Priesthood , was it needful that another Priest should arise after the Order of Melchisedeck , and who should not be called after the Order of Aaron ? The Priesthood being changed , there must of need be a change of the Law. I say the same : If Perfection was found in the Priesthood of Jesus Christ , who is the Eternal Priest of Melchisedecks Order , why should Men introduce new Priests , which much more like to be after the Order of Aaron , than after the Order of Melchisedeck ? And if the setling of a new Priesthood after the Order of Melchisedeck , hath overthrown the Levitical Priesthood ; doth not the Priesthood of these Sacrifices annihilate the Priesthood of Jesus Christ ? [ This is your Errour , say they , you suppose that this is a new Priesthood , and it is not so ; for it is the same , it is the Priesthood after the Order of Melchisedeck , which is Eternal , because it abides still in the Church ; and without that the Sacrifice of Jesus Christ would not be Eternal , after the way of that of Melchisedeck . ] Why would Men oblige us to believe things that are incredible , to justifie the Church of Rome ? They tell us , That the Priesthood of their Priests , is the same as that of Jesus Christ . I know not whether Heaven and Earth are more distant , and if Light and Darkness be more different . Jesus Christ is God , those Priests are Men. Jesus Christ abides for ever ; those Priests die . No Man succeeds Jesus Christ ; Priests succeed one the other . Jesus Christ offered not for himself ; the Priests offer for their own Sins , as for those of the People . Jesus Christ is Holy , separate from Sinners ; Priests are often engaged into great Disorders . Jesus Christ hath offered once one sole Sacrifice ; these offer every day , and reiterate their Sacrifice . Jesus Christ finishes his Sacrifice in the Holy Places not made with hands ; Priests make their Sacrifices upon Altars of Stone , and in Temples made by Mans hand . In fine , Melchisedeck was a singular Man , and only ; it must needs be therefore , that he who was to sustain that Priesthood , whereof his was the Figure , should be a singular and only Person ; but the Priests are in great Numbers . After that , can Men deny , that Priests are Sacrificers much rather like the Order of Aaron , than that of Melchisedeck ? And if it be so , we say it once more , The Establishment of their Priesthood destroys that of Christ by good Consequence . Though that should be granted , say they , it is a disavowed Consequence , and which by consequence should not prove an obstacle to the Re-union . To that I say , Though Men disavow it , yet we see it and fear it still , because it produces actually its effect . It is not in Points of Practise , as in those of Speculation . In these it is true , so the Consequence be disavowed , it must not be imputed , although it do arise from the Speculative Principles of those that disavow it . But when a Practise or Worship destroy by consequence an important Truth , that is in vain to disavow the Consequence , while People remain in the Worship , and in that Practise they are actually guilty of having done prejudice against such a Truth . For Example ; A Pagan doth joyn to the Adoration of God , the Sovereign , many Inferiour Deities . We tell him , That by this Worship he offers a great Wrong to the Soveraign God. He may Answer , That it is a Consequence which he disavows , and that his Intention is , to render an infinite Honour to this Soveraign God. Because he disavows the Consequence , is he justified ? 5. Finally , We cannot keep our selves from seeing , That the Sacrifice of the Mass doth a great dishonour to the Sacrifice of the Cross ; for if it be needful to reiterate every day that Sacrifice , the first Oblation which was made thereof must have been insufficient . We Reason as the Apostle , that saith , The Sacrifices that are offered every year , cannot sanctifie them that have recourse to them ; otherwise they had ceased them from offering them , since the Offerers being once sanctified , should have had no more Conscience of Sin. We Reason as these Doctors themselves : We shall hear one of them presently saying to us , If the Mass were infinite , it were in vain to offer many Masses . Let 's be permitted to say also , If the value of the Sacrifice of the Cross were infinite , it is in vain to offer so many others . It is here that Monsieur de Condom pretends that we are much in the wrong , because , according to him , The Sacrifice of the Mass offers no prejudice to that of the Cross ; the Reason which he gives , is , It 's a new Payment of a new Propitiation . He saith not , that it is not a new Sacrifice ; yet the Council of Trent insinuates it , saying , It is the same Oblation , and the same Priest ; and the Doctours say it expresly . But it is a terrible Paradox to say , That a Sacrifice , wherein no Person dies , wherein there is no effusion of Blood , which is done upon an Altar , and which is done at this day towards the end of the World , be the same singular Sacrifice which was done almost 1700 Years ago , on the Cross whereon Jesus Christ died , and did shed his Blood. Not only , it is not the same singular Sacrifice ; that it is not a Sacrifice of the same kind , for here Jesus Christ dies not . Monsieur of Condom tells us , That Jesus Christ is upon the Altar but only in a Figure of real Death of the Signs , which represent his Death . It is natural to conclude , that he is there Sacrificed as he dies ; he only dies in Figure there , he is then Sacrificed but in Figure there . He dies not there truly ; he is not then offered in a true Sacrifice . However it be , one shall never say , that will follow the language of Reason , That an Action wherein Jesus Christ died really , and another wherein he dies but in some Signs , be one and the same Sacrifice . In fine , Although Jesus Christ should be in the Eucharist , and that in the Sacrifice of the Cross and of the Mass there should be but one Oblation , would it follow , that it were but one Sacrifice ? Doth the Oneness of the Sacrifice depend solely upon the Oneness of the Oblation ? Doth it not also depend on the Oneness of the Action ? If God had raised every year that Goat , which was offered for the People in the Feast of Propitiation , and that it had been killed every year , because it had been the same Oblation , it could never yet be said , that it had been one and the same Sacrifice . They say again , That it is not a new Payment , nor a new Propitiation ; that they do only apply the Propitiation of the Sacrifice of the Cross ; that it is the same Jesus Christ who is offered ; that it is his Merit which is presented . What doth all that do ? We say not , that the Sacrifice of the Mass doth wrong to the Merit of Christ Jesus , for we know well that have design to offer Jesus Christ and his Merit in the Sacrifice of the Mass . But we say , That this Oblation reiterated of the same Satisfaction , doth accuse of insufficiency the former Oblation . Either Jesus Christ hath not sufficiently offered to his Father his Infinite Merit ; or the Oblation thereof , which they repeat every day , is useless . For if the Oblation done in the Cross be sufficient , all other Oblation is superfluous ; or if the other Oblations be not superfluous , certainly that of the Cross is insufficient , whatsoever these Doctors say . They have a design to make application by this Sacrifice of the Mass , of the efficacy of that of the Cross ; that doth not hinder from being a new Sacrifice in the Church . It is most certain , that the Mosaical Sacrifices were destined to apply the efficacy of the Death of Jesus Christ , and of his Sacrifice to come . Mean while , they were not the same Sacrifice as that of the Cross . And if any this day make application to himself of the efficacy of the Death of Jesus Christ by the death of a Beast , it would not be a Sacrifice , but a Sacriledge . In a word , It imports us not , why , and to what end they present Jesus Christ every day in a true Sacrifice . They do it , and this Enterprize seems to be very surprizing , terrible , and absolutely opposite to the declaration of the Holy Spirit , who saith , That Jesus Christ doth not offer himself several times . Whatever Intention Men have , God will not be paid with that Intention ; and will always judge , that they have done wrong to that Oblation , once made , capable of sanctifying for ever those that are sanctified . Besides that , I would fain know , if they can say in Conscience , That Jesus Christ died purposely to obtain for us all things , for which they offer this Sacrifice of the Mass . It is not only for the Remission of Sins ; it is for the preservation of Health , for the Cure of a Disease , for the Prosperity of an Enterprize , yea , and for the finding out of those things that are lost . In a word , There are but few things , though never so base , for which they do not celebrate the Sacrifice of the Mass ; by the favour of this Word of the Council of Trent , for other Necessities . It is impossible we should count for nothing so great an Abuse as that is , to offer the Son of God , his Flesh and his Blood , which the Angels adore , for things of this Nature . And we cannot comprehend how they can say , That it is the same Propitiation of that of the Cross ; for it is certain , that the Lord hath not suffered on the Cross , to obtain for Men these sorts of Goods . Monsieur de Condom must also give me the permission to ask him , how that which is taught in the Roman Church , That the value of the Sacrifice of the Mass is Finite , can agree with what he saith , That it is the same Payment as that of the Sacrifice of the Cross ? Bellarmine proves very well , that the value of the Mass is finite , [ If the Value of the Mass were Infinite , it were in vain to offer many Masses to obtain the same thing ; for if one Mass alone were of an Infinite Price , certainly it were sufficient to obtain all . Of what use were it to offer others ? ] The following Words appear remarkable to me ; [ One may prove the same thing by the Sacrifice of the Cross , which is singular , not to be repeated , only because it is of an Infinite Value , and that it acquired a Price for all the Sins which are to be pardoned , both future and past . ] Can any distinguish more neatly the two Sacrifices , and the two Payments ; that of the Cross , and that of the Mass ? One is Infinite , the other limited : One is never repeated , because it is Infinite ; the other is daily reiterated , because it is of a Finite value . Bellarmine , will they say , hath no design to oppose the Council of Trent ; and in the same place he proves , That the Sacrifice of the Mass , is the same Sacrifice with that of the Cross . It is true ; but these Doctors say what they please , and they would have us to believe them , even when they lay down things incompatible . I do not believe it necessary to stay long upon what Monsieur de Condom saith , That the Sacrifice of the Mass is an Attendant of the Real Presence . If that Reflexion were solid , it would do for us , and it could not serve , but to give us Aversion for the Doctrine of Reality , whose Attendants should be so strange , and would tend to establish a New Sacrifice , that is to say , a New Religion . But we cannot agree , that the Sacrifice of the Mass be an Attendant of the Real Presence . It may be an Issue , if Men please , because it followed after it , and that they have made a Propitiatory Sacrifice of the Eucharist , only after they had imagined a Real Presence of the Flesh of Jesus Christ . But it is an Issue which hath no foundation , but in Illusion ; for in truth it is clear , That the Flesh of Jesus Christ , in whatever manner it be given us , is only given us but to be Eaten , and not to be Sacrificed ; seeing the Lord commands us to Eat his Flesh , and never ordains it to be Sacrificed . If the Real Presence did necessarily induce the Sacrifice , it were because Men should Sacrifice the Lord Jesus Christ , wherever he is . Were it so , he were then to be Sacrificed in Heaven . So in this place , no more then about Adoration , we cannot grant that the Catholick Romans do Reason more Consequentially than the Lutherans , because these which hold the Real Presence , do not yet make a Sacrifice of the Eucharist . Yet once more , I have no design either to prove nor refute , and I will hold me religiously within the Bounds which I have mark'd out for my self . Therefore I will not examine all that Monsieur de Condom saith , to expound the Epistle to the Hebrews . It is one of his digressions , done for swelling his Work. He shall say whatever he pleases ; but he shall never make them believe , who shall preserve but a little liberty of the Spirit , that this Epistle be favourable to the Sacrifice of the Mass . Never will Men comprehend the reason of the Silence of the Apostle upon this matter , in a place where he treated to the bottom , both of the Sacrifice and of the Christian Priesthood . This were a manifest prevarication ; and if having wherewith to satisfie the Jews , who would have by all means Visible Sacrifices , he had not put into their hands the Sacrifice of the Mass to impose Silence on them . Monsieur de Condom would believe he had done much , if he could but draw this Epistle from laying so heavy upon his Party , and had proved that it doth nothing against him . Also hath he no other end in his Reflexion , it is not a thing to be dispatch'd in Eight or Ten little Pages ; but though he had done it , he had yet done nothing to purpose . It is not enough to have proved , that this Epistle contains not Proofs against the Sacrifice of the Mass . They should find therein Proofs for this Sacrifice ; for it is there that they ought to be , if there were any in the Scripture ; and if they find none in that place , it is a prejudgment , that they cannot be found in any part . ARTICLE XIII . Of the Retranchment of the Cup. BEhold the last of the Consequences of Transubstantiation and of the Real Presence , it is the Retranchment of the Cup , and Communion under one kind . Monsieur de Condom finds in his Theology , that it is so natural a Consequence thereof , and so necessary , that those who confess or tolerate Real Presence , should find it no trouble to Communicate under one kind . If it were true that the Retranchment of the Cup were a necessary Attendant of the Real Presence , it were to us a new Reason against the receiving thereof ; but it concerns me little whether that Consequence be good or bad . It is a Controversie which I leave to the Bohemians to dispatch , and to the Germans , French , Bavarians , and to so many others , who did in the last Age demand with so much instance , the Restitution of the Communion under both kinds ; and who notwithstanding believed Transubstantiation and the Real Presence . I will say only Two things thereupon . The first , That the Church , which during a Thousand years entire , by the Confession of these Doctours , Administred the Communion under both kinds , did not believe the Retranchment of the Cup were a needful Attendant of the Real Presence ; seeing that , if we believe them , that same Church believed also that Real Presence . I grant that it is an astonishing thing , That during the Ten first Ages Men should not have that Scruple , which they have had in the following . In those Times when Men accounted it a greater honour to wear on their Face the mark of their Sex , than they do this day ; I know not how then Men should not abhor , to see after the Communion a thousand Bodies of Christ Jesus , hanging at the Beard of a Mariner . They have not thought of a Remedy to be sought for that Scandal ; but since Berengarius , and since the establishing of the Doctrine of Transubstantiation . One had need be very dull , methink , and thick Skulled , not to be sensible , that these new Precautions , which they since that began to be thought of , are an evident Proof , that there hath been Innovation in the Doctrine . The other thing I would say is , That I found a Word in the Book of Monsieur de Condom , which makes me suspect , that himself is but ill perswaded , that the Communion under one Kind is an Attendant of the Real Presence . [ In the Consecration , saith he , the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ are mystically separated , because that Jesus Christ said separately , This is my Body , This is my Blood , which doth include a lively and efficacious representation of the violent Death which he suffered . ] If the Body and Blood be mystically separated in Consecration , why should they not be so in the Communion ? If Jesus hath said separately , This is my Body , This is my Blood ; hath not he also said separately , Eat , Drink ; He that eats my Flesh , and He that drinks my Blood ? In fine , If the Signs be separated in this Sacrifice , to induce a lively and efficacious representation of the violent Death of Jesus Christ , why do they not also give them Separately at the Communion , seeing they make there the Commemoration of that Violent Death , and that Men participate there of the whole efficacy of that Death ? If Monsieur de Condom would thus Reason upon the Principles which he himself hath laid , he should then Reason as Cajetan and many other Able Men have done , who did believe Transubstantiation and the Real Presence . All that may serve to make it appear , that the Lutherans do not Reason so ill as Men would perswade us , when they sever the Doctrine of the Real Presence from all those Attendants , which they give it in the Roman Church . But that is not my principal Affair . Here it is ; It is to make known , that Monsieur de Condom hath no reason for desiring to perswade us , that this Retranchment of the Cup is nothing important , and that it should not hinder us from Reunion to the Roman Church . The Christian Religion , according to us , hath but Two Sacraments ; and should it be nothing important to us , to see ravished from us the Moiety of one of these Sacraments at one blow ? I know not how that can be said , seeing , that according to our Principles , he that divides the Sacrament destroys it , and he that destroys it robs the Church of it . They would have us reckon for nothing , an Attempt , happily the strangest which was ever seen in Religion . All the World agrees , that our Lord Jesus Christ hath Instituted this Sacrament under both Species ; that Antiquity hath so practised it , and after Fourteen hundred Years they come to snatch it out of our hands . These Doctours , who boast of so perfect a Conformity to the Ancient Church , do abandon it in this place , which is of the chiefest importance . They grant it , they are not ashamed of it ; and they would have us like it , and that we should account this Enterprize for nothing . What , can we account for nothing so manifest an Infraction of our Masters Orders , which said so expresly , Drink ye all of it ? It will avail nothing here to say , That this Command is not addressed to all the Faithful , but to the Priest alone . It is an Illusion , which I have no design to encounter . The business is to know , whether , in our Principles , we cannot Communicate under one kind . Now , seeing that after our Principles these words , Drink ye all of it ▪ are addressed to all the Faithful ; we cannot , retaining our Principles , Communicate under one Kind , without being Hypocrites , Prevaricators and Rebels against the Orders of our Lord. But to make Men sensible how much this Enterprize is terrible , and this Affair important , I beseech them , who have a Care of their Salvation , to make with me the following Reflexions . 1. That in all Sacraments and Sacrifices , and generally in all Sacred Ceremonies of the Law , there were parts so Essential , that in ruining them Men had entirely destroy'd that part of Divine Service ; and of a Sacred Ceremony they had so made a Sacriledge . Moses had ordained , that every day twice , in the Evening and Morning , the Holocaust of a Lamb should be offered . It is that which the Law called , The Continual Sacrifice . If they should have offered but one Holocaust at Noon , and that they had Sacrificed a Bull instead of a Lamb , is it not evident that it would have been a manifest Prevarication , and that this Action would have passed before God for an Abomination ? God had also ordained , That on that Solemn day , which they called of Propitiations , they should present two Goats ; that one of them should be Sacrificed for an Holocaust , and that the other being charged with the Iniquity of the People , should be sent into the Desart . If they should have presented but One Goat instead of Two , is it not evident that the Propitiation had not been made , and that God would have considered that as a signal Prevarication ? And that an High Priest , that had been guilty of such an Attempt , would have been put to Death without Mercy ? As for me , though I should strive , yet cannot I perceive what difference there is between such Facts , and This whereof we now treat . Jesus Christ hath established us a Sacrament under both kinds of Bread and Wine , he saith , Eat , Drink . At a blow , suddenly they steal away one Moiety from us , they rob us of the Wine , consecrate ; they forbid us to drink thereof , and they would have us to regard that as a Sacrament , and as the same Sacrament . 2. Let 's consider besides , that the Efficacy and Virtue of Sacraments depend absolutely on their Institution and the Will of their Author . For , in fine , at the bottom , to eat a little of the Flesh of a roasted Lamb , to suffer some Violence in ones Flesh by Circumcision , to be washed with a little Water , in it self cannot be of any Virtue . And Ceremonies have no Efficacy , but because God hath instituted them , and hath promised to accompany them with the Virtue of his Grace and of his Spirit . But is it not true , that he hath not promised to accompany Sacraments with his Virtue , but on Condition that Men should keep close to the Ceremonies that himself hath Instituted ? Circumcision was to be done in certain Parts ; if they had done it on the Lips or Ears , instead of being a Seal of the Covenant , it had been a depravation evident of the Covenant , which would have provoked God instead of procuring his Grace . They were to roast the Paschal Lamb , to eat it with bitter Herbs ; if instead of that they had roasted a Beef , or had boiled the Lamb , and that they had eaten this Lamb with a sweet Sawce ; who can deny , but that instead of a Sacrament it had been a Sacriledge ? God would not have shed any Virtue on that corrupted Ceremony , and this Change would absolutely have ruined the Efficacy of the Sacrament . If instead of Baptizing with Water , any should Baptize with Dirt , or any other such thing ; or in retaining Water , any should alter visibly the Sense of the Sacramental Words of Baptism , I Baptize thee in the Name of the Father , of the Son , and of the Holy Ghost ; could Men believe that this Sacrament would confer Remission of Sins ? It is clear that God hath engaged himself to give his Grace with his Sacraments ; but not with Mens Sacraments . When Men change the Institution of a Divine Sacrament , they make an Human Sacrament , to which God hath promised nothing . Therefore it is a most clear Evidence , that in retranching the Moiety of the Signs in the Sacrament of the Eucharist , they ruine the Efficacy thereof , they banish the Spirit of God , and estrange his Grace from it . For Jesus Christ hath not promised to afford his Grace , but to such Sacraments as he hath instituted , and as he hath instituted it . After that , they should have us reckon it for nothing , that they take from us one of the Means whereby this Saving Grace and Efficacy are communicated ; is that Just ? 3. These same Reflexions make us see , with the fullest Evidence , that the Retranchment of the Cup destroys and ruins the Sacrament of the Eucharist . For a Sacrament is a certain Assemblage of Ceremonies instituted of God ; and if you take away one part of these Ceremonies , it is no more the same Sacrament . That appears by what I have said of the Passover , Circumcision , and Baptism ; in which , if Men should make any notable Change , by way of Retranchment , they would have ruined them : I say , by way of Retranchment , because one may alter Sacraments , by way of Addition , without ruining them . The vain Ceremonies which the Jews had loaden the Passover with , did not absolutely destroy it ; and the useless Pomp , wherewith they have cloath'd the Sacrament of Baptism among Christians , hinders not its Efficacy . When the Essential parts remain , what is added doth incommodate and hurt , yea , load the Subject ; but the Essence of that Subject subsists . But when they have taken away one of the Essential parts ▪ all things which Men add beyond the Institution , cannot restore what they have spoiled . And thence it is clear , that both the Signs being equally Essential in the Sacrament of the Eucharist , they could not retranch one without ruining the whole Sacrament intirely . We must not therefore dissemble , that we regard not the Communion in the Roman Church as a Sacrament . They may not therefore wonder , that we cannot Communicate with them , while it shall remain in the state wherein it is . 4. Finally , We must remark that this Retranchment of the Cup , which they would reckon for nothing , doth oppose and ruine all the Ends for which the Eucharist hath been established . We have already seen , that it ruins the Efficacy of the Grace of God , which he would convey to us in that Sacrament . Besides that , we must remember , that our Lord Jesus Christ did Institute it to be an Image of his death ; As often as you shall eat of this Bread , and drink of this Cup , you shall shew forth the Lords death . Now after the Remark of Monsieur de Condom himself , the lively and efficacious Representation of the lively Death which our Lord suffered , is not found , but in that his Flesh and his Blood are mystically separated . For indeed , a Flesh cannot be living when it is separated from its Blood , and for the fit Representation of Jesus , as dead , we must see his Flesh and his Blood separated . It is then very evident , that they which give the People but one Sign , which give the Flesh and Blood Mystically conjoyned , do not give in their Communion the lively and efficacious Representation of the Violent Death which our Lord suffered . It is further certain , that this Divine Sacrament hath been instituted as a Sacred Repast , that should teach us in a Mysterious manner , that our Souls shall find in the Lord Jesus Christ compleat Nourishment ; therefore it hath been established under the two Signs of Bread and Wine , which are sufficient to nourish the Body ; and that signifies , that the Grace of Jesus Christ is sufficient to nourish our Souls . But is it not evident , that in Retranching the Cup they ruine this excellent Mystery ? Can one live with Bread alone ; can a Body be sustain'd with Meat without Drink ? And the Grace of Jesus Christ , that makes our Souls to live , is it sufficiently represented by a kind of Repast , with which one must necessarily die ? This Sacrament was also instituted to be a common Repa●t , a Feast of Society among many Brethren , for to nourish Charity and entertain the Union of the Faithful . Therefore the Ancients said , that this Union was mystically represented by the Union of many grains of Wheat , which compose one Loaf of Bread ; and by that of many grains of Raisons , which compose one Wine . It is then a Family Repast , this Sacrament ; but where was there ever seen a Repast , where only Meat is given , and not Drink ? Certainly , those Hereticks which St. Cyprian condemns , because they would use only Water in the Eucharist , were less Cruel , and did less ruine the Mysteries of this Sacrament . For there , at least in their Eucharist , there was both Meat and Drink ; and that is it which is essential to every Repast . Thenceforth therefore , let them talk no more of this , as of a business little important , which destroys the Sacrament of the Eucharist , which ruins the Efficacy of it , and which opposes all the Ends for which it was instituted . Monsieur de Condom hath put himself behind a Retranchment , wherein he conceives that we cannot force him . It is an old wrangle about one Article of our Discipline , which permits such as have an invincible aversion for Wine , to Communicate under the sole kind of Bread. This Example shews , that Monsieur de Condom is not very ambitious of speaking always things that are novel and sublime ; for there is no Missionary so small , that hath not treated this difficulty in the very dust of Publick places , and that hath not declaim'd thereon from the very Stalks . Yet , now must we consider it as having somewhat in it , seeing a Man of Merit and Weight would have it so . [ They have judged , saith he , by this Rule , that both Kinds were not Essential to Communion , by the Institution of Jesus Christ ; otherwise they must have refused wholly the Sacrament to those that could not receive it wholly entire . ] I wonder that these Gentlemen do not also argue against us , that we have dispensed Blind men from Reading God's Word , the Deaf from Hearing , and the Dumb from Singing the Praises of their Creatour . I always thought , that no Man was obliged to Impossibilities . To hear God's Word and implore his Name , are at least as necessary to Salvation , as participation of Sacraments ; yet the Deaf and the Dumb are dispens'd , because of Impossibility . Our Discipline speaks of Persons which have an invincible Aversion for Wine , that can neither Smell nor Taste it , and much less swallow it . We dispense not those Persons from taking the Wine ; it is Nature that dispenses them putting into them an insuperable Obstacle from the reception of Wine . It 's not therefore We that give this Dispensation , nor that divide the Sacrament . To explain my self more neatly . I say there are two sorts of Commands : Some are Negative , which ordain the abstaining ; such as be the Prohibitions , for Example , of committing Adultery or Murther , of falling into Idolatry . Some are Affirmative , which order us to do , for Example , Giving of Alms , Visiting the Sick , Comfort the Afflicted . The first sort do always oblige , and in all Circumstances ; for it is never permitted to commit Adultery , to Rob or commit Murther : But the Affirmatives oblige not , but within certain Circumstances , and under condition of Possibility . The Command of partaking of the Sacrament of the Eucharist , is one of those Commands Affirmative , which oblige not but in such Occasions wherein it is possible . A Man that hath no Goods , is dispens'd from giving Alms. He that hath no Feet cannot Visit the Sick : He that hath no Tongue , is dispens'd from Comforting the Afflicted , Likewise , he that cannot absolutely drink Wine , is dispens'd by this absolute Impossibility . Methinks , a Man must be blinded with his Prejudices beyond all that can be said , to compare things so different , and to say , We dispense a particular Man among an hundred Thousand , from taking the Cup , because he cannot drink Wine ; therefore it is permitted willingly , and without necessity , to take away the Cup from all Christian People . I am sensible that those Doctours will not be content herewith , and that they will say , However tell us , if what this Man takes , that communicates with you under the Sign of Bread , without Wine , is a true Sacrament : If it be a true Sacrament , why should not that be One which we present to our People ? I Answer , That what we offer to this Man is a true Sacrament , because we offer him both the Signs ; yea , we oblige him to take the Cup in his hand : And what the Roman Church presents to their Communicants is not a true Sacrament , because she gives them nothing but Bread. But they will say , What he receives among you , that cannot drink the Wine , is not a true Sacrament as to the Sign ▪ I Answer , That it is a true Sacrament , as to the Thing signified . It is certain , that to speak exactly , he doth not take with his Mouth the Sacrament of Jesus Christ ; for this Sacrament is composed of Two parts , and he receives but One. But he receives Jesus Christ , signified by the Sacrament , and receives as much of Graces , as they that Communicate of the Sacrament it self . Why ? Because the Sacrament is entirely presented to him , because he receives it in his desire and heart , and because only an insuperable Impossibility hinders him from communicating of the Sign . Suppose we , that a Man is found , which hath the same aversion for the Bread as for the Wine ; that never was , it may be , found ; but it is not impossible . This Man will come to the Lords Table , he will take with his hand the one and the other Sign , he 'l bring them near to his Mouth ; but he will return them , not being able to pass further . What doth that Man ? Doth he take a true Sacrament ? Not at all ; he takes not the Sacrament , he recelves the Spiritual things presented under the Sacrament , that is , Grace . But to what purpose doth he come near the Table , to receive nothing there ? For he might have received Grace without stirring from home . He comes to make unto God a solemn Protestation , that his Impotency is the only cause that hinders him from partaking of the Signs ; that he thirsts after his Grace , that he desires to have part in the efficacy of the Sacrament , and to shew to all the Faithful , that he doth not deprive himself of those Sacred Signs out of contempt of Religion . If those Doctours do not relish this Theology , I beseech them to hear St Bernard , that tells them , It is not Privation of the Sacrament that damns ; but Contempt . I conjure them to consult all the Theologues of their School , and examine what they say of Baptism of Vow , or the Vow of Baptism . There is none but saith , That he who desires sincerely and ardently to receive Baptism , and dies without partaking of the Sign , doth nevertheless receive the Efficacy and all the Virtue of Baptism . ARTICLE XIV . Of Holy Scripture . WE have upon this Article very important Controversies with the Roman Church of the Perfection of Scripture , of its Obscurity , of its Authority ; also touching the Utility and Necessity of Reading the said Holy Scripture , of the Soveraign Judge of Controversies and of Traditions . Monsieur de Condom passes almost all these under Silence , and wraps it up in few Words ; except the Question of its Authority , which he Treats of a little more largely . I have no design neither , to make here large Common places upon these Controversies . Volumes have been sufficiently written , on both sides , to compose great Libraries . I will only say , That all the dexterity of Monsieur de Condom , will never make us to pass this for a thing of small importance . We shall never relish , that any should make it their Task to speak ill of Holy Scripture . It is a wicked Character , and a bad Prejudice for these Doctours Cause . When Men speak ill of their Judge , and that they seek for Means of Recusation against him , it is a Proof , that they do not believe him favourable to their Interest . If the Roman Church believed the Scripture to be on their side , they would not seek out so many Means , to make her lose her Credit with the People . It is a thing that could never be believed , if we did not see it , That Christians should busie themselves to prove , that the Book which includes the Doctrine that saves them from Hell , is an imperfect and mutilate Book , gnawed by the Teeth of Time ; depraved and corrupted by the Jews and by the Hereticks ; that it contains but a little part of the Doctrine of the Church ; that they must add thereto the Help of Traditions : That it is an an Obscure Book , that Men cannot understand it without the help of the Church ; that God hath filled it with Rocks and Shelfs , that proud Spirits might be wracked thereon : That it is a Leaden Rule , which Men turn what way they please ; that Hereticks may easily abuse it , to fight against the Truth ; that we find not Light enough therein to dissipate the Darkness of Errour ; that it is a Labyrinth , wherein Men are necessarily lost when they are not conducted ; that it hath no Authority , in regard to us , without the Testimony of the Church ; that it hath not Characters of Divinity sufficient to prove it self ; that it cannot explain it self by clear Places , of what it saith in obscure Passages ; that without the Authority of the Church , we should be no more obliged to believe it to be Divine , than any other Book ; that the Lecture of this Book is dangerous , that one must extreamly distinguish the Persons , to whom the Reading thereof should be permitted ; that Versions in the Vulgar Tongue cannot appear without peril ; that the People should not have liberty of handling these Sacred Books . They would have us to hear all these things patiently , and that we should keep Silence thereat . But that cannot be : We should be the most base , and the most ungrateful of all Men , if we should abandon the Defence of a Book , to which alone we are beholding , next to God , for our Eternal Salvation . They will not fail to tell us , that we are Calumniators , and they speak not with that contempt of the Holy Scripture . They will bring us the Testimonies of some particular Persons of the latter days , which have spoken of it with grand Eloges and Praises . And I could relate the Words of other particulars , and would bring an hundred for one , which speak thereof in the Terms which I expressed just now . If Monsieur de Cedeau , Bishop of Grass ; if the Gentlemen of Port-Royal have spoken of this Scripture with the Respect due thereto , that hath not been regarded as their fair side and best Character . And all the World knows the Violent Persecutions whereto some have been exposed , because of that . Monsieur de Condom may say what he pleases in favour of Tradition ; but we maintain , That it is an opening of the Door to all the Corruptions of Doctrine and Worship . There is none so strange and so opposite to the Spirit of Christianism , that may not enter into the Church under this Name of Tradition . Sad Experience teaches us enough thereof . It is this Word that filled with Images the Temples of Christians , to the great Scandal of those who are jealous of the Purity of Worship . It is that which introduced into Religion the Service of Creatures , Invocation of Saints , the Worship of the Holy Virgin , Pilgrimaget , Adoration of Relicks , and so many other such like things . If the Roman Church were reduced to defend her self only by Scripture , she should soon be driven to forsake the most part of her Worship and of her Devotions : But where Scripture fails her , Tradition is an obscure Spring , entangled and Profound , which furnishes with all that she pleases . Methinks , it is very unjust to wrangle with People , and impose it for a Crime on them , that they will not believe but God alone , speaking in the Scriptures , and by the Pen of his Prophets and Apostles . With what Justice would they have us to regard , as a small business , that Enterprize , to have taken away the Word of God , in the Book thereof , from the hands of the People ? Is not that a Capital Affair ? Where shall Knowledge be drawn , if the Spring thereof be shut up ? Where shall Men learn to know God aright , if they rob the People of that Book , where God himself makes himself known ? When I see that they say with Confidence , That it is not true , that they have forbidden the Lecture of the Word of God , that dismays me , and drives my Patience to the utmost . I know not how Men can contradict so a Publick Authority . It is true , that there are some in the Roman Church , which condemn that Prohibition made to the People of Reading the Holy Scripture ; and I could wish no fairer Discourse thereon , than what hath said the Author of the Dialogues between the two Parishioners of Saint Hilary du Mont. But what was said of those Persons ? They say they have borrowed the Weapons of Hereticks , and have brightned them the more . [ They accuse them to oppose the Sentiments of the Church ; because that the Church , conducted by Gods Spirit , permits not indifferently the Reading of Holy Scripture to all Persons , without the Advice and Explication of Ecclesiastical Superiours , for fear lest the Difficulty or Obscurity of Understanding in some places , should produce Scruples and Errours in Mens Spirits . It being certain , that all Heresies , which are born in its bosom , have always their foundation and their defence in the Words of the Holy Scripture ill understood . ] It is the Lord Bishop of Ambrun , who speaks in his Ordinance against the Traduction of Mons. I think he knows what he saith ; for the least thing that may be granted to an Archbishop , it is , that he should know Religion . And indeed , doth not all the World know , that the Rules which are at the Head of the Index Expurgatorius , forbid the Lecture of the Holy Word of God ; excepting those who shall have permission from their Ordinary , of the Curate or the Confessor ? It is not a Decree of the Council of Trent , will they say : No , but it is the Spirit of the Council . They are Theologians , deputed by the Council of Trent , that speak it . It is Pope Pius the Fourth , who presided in that Council , and who possessed the Spirit thereof . Sixtus the Fifth , and Clement the Eighth , Successours of Pius the Fourth , ought to have had the Spirit of the Church . Methinks it is they that say , That by the Command and Use of the Holy Inquisition Romaine Universella , the Power of permitting the reading or retaining the Bible in the Vulgar Tongue , both of the Old and of the New Testament , hath been taken away from Bishops , Inquisitors , or Superiours of the Regulars . Let Men but read the last Writings , which have been made thereabout , upon the occasion of the Version of Mons ; the Ordinances of my Lords of Paris and of Ambrun ; the Writings of Father Annat , and all the Apologies which have been made for the Defence of those Pieces ; and Men shall see whether it be true , That the Reading of Scripture be permitted and ordained to all the World. I must remit those , that will be instructed in this Matter , to the Book of Monsieur Mallet , where Men shall see the Councils , Popes , Cordinals , Bishops , Faculties of Theology , and the Theologues agreeing in this Article . It is , That the Reading of the Word of God is dangerous , when it is permitted to all the World. But , is there need of Proofs for a thing that is seen ? Where is there a Reading of the Word of God ; in favour of the People ? Is it in the Church ? If they Read any part thereof , it is in a strange Tongue ; it is no more for Instruction ; It is for Prayer , as said a Franciscan in the Council of Trent : Is it in Private Houses ? But in what Country doth the People know the Word of God of himself ? Certainly , in Spain and in Italy , the Bible is that of all Books that the People knows least of . In France , some honest Persons read it ; but their Number is very small . It is not charged as a Duty upon any Person ; happily there are not of a Thousand , One that hath cast his Eyes upon this Sacred Book . Thence comes the profound Ignorance of most People , even of those who distinguish themselves by their quality , or by their Character . We must not flatter our selves ; We shall never regard that Conduct as coming from the Spirit of God , and we shall never re-enter into a Church , which treats Holy Scripture with so much Injustice . ARTICLE XV. Of the Church . AS for the Authority of the Church , it cannot be an Affair of little Importance , seeing the Question is , whether the Tribunal of it shall be lifted up above the Holy Scripture . Monsieur de Condom cannot be ignorant , that this Controversie of the Infallible Authority of the Church , is an Article so Capital , that thereon depends all the Re-union whereto they invite us . Whilst that the Roman Church shall call it self Infallible , she will shut the Door against all Reformation ; and as long as she shall refuse all Reformation , she cannot hope that we shall return into her Bosom . This Doctrine of Infallibility is the most dangerous that could ever enter into the Church ; because it opens the way to all sorts of Errours and Superstitions , and takes away all liberty of Examining those things , which Use or Authority have once established . A Church that calls her self Infallible boldly , establishes boldly what she wills , and what may be found useful for its Interest . And after that , there is no more any Means to return . We must also be permitted to say , That this is an Affair of the highest Importance , seeing the Foundation of the Faith of our People depends thereon . They would not have us to establish it on the Holy Scripture , which is the Stay and Pillar of Truth ; and they would have us to knowledge all that we must believe , as from the Church , without being able to tell us which is this Church , and where are the Titles of its Infallibility . These Gentlemen do thrust us very hardly upon the Authority of Scripture , the diversity of its Senses upon the liberty whereof they accuse us , as given to Women and to Artificers , to interpret it after their manner , and to make themselves a new Religion , if it seems good to them . But I know not how they mind not , that with all their Maxims of Submission and blind Obedience , for their Interpretations of the Church , they must cast the Faith of their People into an incertitude , greater a thousand times , than that wherein they say that we are . It is the Church , say they , to whose Interpretations we must cleave . I will ; but let them shew me that Church to whom I must submit . I see in the Orient a Greek Church , which they call Schismatick ; in the Occident , I see there Societies of Men , whom they call Eutychians , Jacobites , Nestorians , Melchites , and many others . Each one of these Societies tells me , that she is the true Church , whom I must hear . Which shall I believe ? Believe her , say they , that hath the Marks of Antiquity , of Succession of Chairs , and particularly of the Apostolick Chair . But every one of those Societies doth boast to have all those Advantages , to be the most Ancient , to be Apostolical ; to have had the Apostles for Founders . The Church of Alexandria saith , that she was founded by St. Mark , her first Bishop ; that of Jerusalem , by St. James . These are Matters of Fact , and to clear my self thereof , I must read whole Libraries : I that neither have Latin nor Greek , which have neither time enough , nor piercing Wits to follow hard Studies . Either I must remain uncertain , or else I shall be reduced to believe , that the Roman Church is the true Church , upon her own simple Word , and upon the Witness that she gives her self , which is of all things in the World the most unjust ; for no Man ought to be believed in his own Cause . Yea , though I should believe , that the Roman Church is the true Church , and Infallible . If I ask where that Infallible doth rest , they cannot teach it me . The one will say , that it is in the Pope ; others will say , that it is false , and I must beware of that thought . Some Doctours will tell me , that the Infallible Oracle is not found but in Councils ; but others will call that Opinion , Heresie , and will Threaten the Tribunal of the Inquisition , if I yield unto those Thoughts . I know not then what side to turn to , to find a solid Prop to my Faith ; for on all hands I see nothing but Doubts , in that which they call the Church , uncertainty , and dividing of Opinions . If I pierce into the bottom of that Church , and that I examine the Sense thereof , I see People that say with one Voice , We must follow the Church ; One cannot go off from her without wandring . But under that appearance of Uniformity , I see a prodigious diversity of Opinions : Some are Semi-Pelagians , and teach , That Grace is not efficacious , but by the Will of Man ; others defend Efficacious Grace by it self , and accuse the former of recalling Pelagianism . Some say , That the Command of Loving God obliges at all times ; and the others say , that it never obliges . I see some that accuse others to be the Corrupters of Morality , and which indeed make the Truth of their Accusation palpable by ones Finger ; but they who are accused , do by turns accuse their Adversaries to be Calvinists , Hereticks , to ruine the Virtues of Sacraments ; to estrange the Faithful from the Communion of the Body of Christ , and to bind Conscience by unjust Chains . All those People are in the Church ; they follow all the Sentiments of the Church ; as they say ; yet are they in Paths so opposite , that Hell and Heaven are not more . See the Uniformity of that Church , whereto they would have me to give up my self . It must be a concluded Affair : We shall never resolve to leave the Foundation of the Word of God , who always abides the same , to engage our Selves in a Sea of Doubts and Uncertainties , where we cannot set our Foot , nor find a fixed Bottom . That the important Controversie of Authority Infallible of the Church , be not an Obstacle to our Re-union . Monsieur de Condom would perswade us , by all means , that we are , in that regard , in the same Practise , and in the same Opinion with his Church . In that we make our Church Judge Soveraign and Infallible of the Controversies which arise among us . He proves it by two things : First , Because we condemn the Doctrine of the Independants , which say , That every Faithful Man is to follow the Motions of his own Conscience , and that each Flock is to be governed by their proper Laws , without dependance of any other , in Matters Ecclesiastical . Whereto we oppose , That if that Doctrine had place , there might be formed as many Religions as Parishes ; and we conclude , That the Faithful ought to be Dependants in regard of their Faith ; that is , they must depend upon a Superiour Authority , which is that of the Church . I conceive not what difficulty Monsieur de Condom finds therein . Have we ever said , That the Faithful ought to be absolutely Independant of the Church ? Do we deny the Authority of the Church to be great , holy , venerable ? Do we consider the Decisions of holy Councils Assembled in God's Name , and who have decreed according to his Word , as Nothing ? There is much difference between a Great Authority , and an Infallible Authority ; between a blind and absolute Dependance , and a Dependance conditional . The Authority of the Church is great , but it is not Infallible . Councils ought not to be despised ; but their Decisions are not to be received blindfold . The Faithful are to live in Dependance ; but they must examine by the Word of God those Decisions , whereon they are to depend . Not to make a New Religion , if they think good ; but to submit to Decisions by a Principle of Reason , lightned with Divine Faith , and grounded on the Word of God. But they will say , If those Private Men in their Examen , Judge , that the Decision of the Church be not true , what must they do ? Ought they to submit or no ? If they submit against the Judgment of their Reason , that is it we ask . If they submit not , and that they follow their Thoughts , there is a new Religion . I Answer , If those Private Men Judge , that the Decision of a Council be false , they cannot but follow the Judgmenr of their Heart , although all the Popes and Bishops should oppose it ; but if they be wise , they will not stick to their first Examination ; they will labour to have their Doubts clear'd . If they cannot , they will keep silence , in case the Errour in hand be not Capital . If they believe that their Salvation is concerned , then their Consciences obliges them , not to make a New Religion , but to chuse that which they believe most conformed to the Truth of the Gospel . I will not engage further into a Question which hath a long Train ; One may read thereon those who have Written to justifie our Separation , and among others , the excellent Answer of Monsieur Claude , in his Book of Prejudices ; there may all see , what are the Rights of Private Men , and of Flocks , when the Church begins to wander . The other Proof which Monsieur de Condom brings to prove , That we give ●● our Synods an Infallible Authority , is drawn from our Discipline . That Discipline would have , that when a Point of Doctrine is in Controversie , after that the business hath passed the Judgment of the Consistory , of the Colloques , and of Synods Provincial . In fine , They should acquiesce in the Judgment of the Synod National . The same Discipline Ordains , That in the Letters of Mission , whereof the Churches do charge the Deputies , which go to Synods , there be a Clause of Submission in these Terms , [ We promise before God , to submit to all that shall be concluded and resolved in your holy Assembly , being perswaded , that God will preside by his Spirit , &c. ] To that Monsieur de Condom adds a Fact drawn from the Synod of Saint Foy , Anno 1578. where some Overtures were made of Reconciliation with the Lutherans , and deputed Four Men , to whom was given an Absolute Power to terminate that Affair as should seem good to them . Behold , say they , where ends the false delicateness of these Gentlemen ! They will not receive the Decisions of Councils ; they make no difficulty to put their Faith into the hands of Four Men ; who would be weary to be obliged to answer so many things that come to nothing . What doth all that , I pray you ? Doth that prove , that we hold the Church for an Infallible Judge ? All that Monsieur de Condom says , returns to this Reasoning , or it returns to nothing . Those who give their Synods power to judge Soveraignly of Points of Faith , who promise Submission in the assurance that the Holy Ghost presides there ; and who retrench from the Communion of the Church those that would not submit to their Decision , give to these Synods an Infallible Authority ; but the Calvinists do that ; therefore they give to to their Synods an Infallible Authority . This Argument supposes false , and concludes ill . 1. It supposes false ; for it is not true that we promit our Synods a blind Submission . What is said to them , That we are perswaded , that God will preside in the midst of them by his Spirit , is a Clause of Civility , whereof the Terms are not to be abused . That signifies nothing , but that we wish and hope , that the Holy Ghost will direct them . It is not true neither , that the Synod of Sainte Foy have put the Faith of the Protestant Churches of France , in deposito , into the hands of Four Men ; for what was committed to them was not to make new Articles of Faith , but only to compose a Formulary in general Terms , which all the World might receive . And they did not so far refer themselves wholly to their Judgment , but that they reserved liberty not to follow them , if they should chance to make some false Advance . 2. This Argument concludes ill ; for ▪ from what Power we give to our Synods to Judge of the Points of Doctrine , and do cut off those that will not submit to their Judgment , Monsieur de Condom concludes , that we attribute to them ▪ an Infallible Authority . This Reasoning is worth nothing , or this is good . The Bishops and Archbishops do give Ordinances ; Councils Provincial and National in the Roman Church , decide Points of Faith , and cut off those that will not submit ; therefore they believe themselves Infallible . I do not therefore think that the Bishops , neither separately nor in their whole Body , out of a General Council , esteem themselves Infallible . Must then the Priviledge of Infallibility be had , to have the Power to Judge of a Point of Faith ▪ There would then be none , but the Pope or the Council that could Judge thereof . There must be an Order . Every Society is in right of Judging of Controversies which arise in its bosom , and that Member thereof that will not submit to that Judgment , may be cast out of the Body . Therefore we do properly complain , That the Roman Church having pronounc'd against us in the Council of Trent , after that did cast us out of their Body ; They used in that the right which appertains to every Society ; but we complain , that they have unjustly condemned us . The Question touching the Rights and Authorities of Councils and Synods deserves an Examen much more ample ; we will leave it as an Incident which Monsieur de Condom hath brought into his Book , without necessity , and only to entangle the state of the Question . It imports nothing at the bottom , what Authority Synods may have , to know whether the Roman Religion is far distant from the Protestant , which is properly the Affair here in agitation . ARTICLE XVI . Of the POPE , and of his Authority . I Follow the Order of Monsieur de Condom ; I finish by the Head of that great Body into which they would have us re-enter , that is , the Pope . Here also , after him , a Point whereof we have made a stumbling Block without any reason . What is the Pope ? It is the Principle of Unity , the Cement of Union : It 's a Head whereto all the Members have a relation , and who makes the Uniting of the Church ; for Men know there is no Goverment more solid , and that contributes more to the Conservation of States , than the Monarchical . What hurt then can there be to set upon the Body of the Church a Spiritual Monarch , a Visible Head , that may watch for its Conservation and may govern it ? Must not People be very Captious , to make of that a cause of Separation ? I will regard well this Article at first , under the same face that Monsicur of Condom doth . The Pope is a Visible Head , a Spiritual Monarch ; but who hath appointed this Monarch ? Is it possible that Men do not feel , that this puts a prodigious difference between the Religion of Protestants and the Roman Religion . To make it appear , I suppose , that the Lord Jesus Christ would have the Government of his Church should be Aristocratical , and that he hath put it into the hands of such whom he hath called Bishops and Priests , whom he hath invested with equal Power . I know well that this Principle is contested ; but once more , I am not oblig'd to prove any thing in this Work. I am permitted to suppose my Principles , and in supposing them , I must shew how they are incompatible with those of that Church whereunto they would have us return . If then the Lord Jesus Christ hath setled a Government Aristocratick in his Church , this kind of Government is of Divine Right ; and if it be of Divine Right , none must be permitted to change it under whatsoever pretence . The kind of Government is so much of the Essence of a State , That the State changes absolutely , loses its Name and its Form , when the Government is changed . All the World knows , that a Kingdom , which by a general Revolt shakes off the Yoke of its legal Master , and then a Popular Government , a Republick , which by the violence of an Usurper becomes a Monarchy , are no more what they were before ; and they would , that without ruining the Church , they may make a Monarchy thereof , against the intention and design of Jesus Christ . We do not understand that . Suppose we also , that this Soveraign Power , exercised at Rome , be an Usurped Power . It is the Principle of Protestants , Selon ce Principe , is it possible that they would oblige us to submit to an Usurped Power ? If a Tyrant or Rebel had taken the place of the Legal Prince ; were it not extream baseness , and a Crime of High Treason to acknowledge this Usurper ? We must then be perswaded , that this Authority , which they call , Of the Holy Siege , is legitimate , before that it can be honestly done , to sollicite us to submit thereto . There hath been a time wherein God had charged himself with the Care of Governing immediately the Common-wealth of the Hebrews by Prophets and inspired Judges , whom he sent to them . If any , during that time , had undertaken , without a Call , to make himself Monarch of that People ; is it not true , that by this attempt the Usurper had made himself guilty , less against the Nation whereof he would oppress the Liberty than against God , upon whose Rights he had undertaken ? That People , though inclined to Revolt , durst not make them a King ; they ask one of God. If that Nation had otherwise used it , it is certain , it had been Criminal before God as much as may be . If we will consider this Reflexion , we shall see that Protestants in their Principles , must regard , as guilty of the highest Enterprize against the Rights of God , Him , that without Call , hath made himself the Head of this Church ; and it will be granted , that without the greatest baseness , they cannot submit to that Prince who hath seized upon God's Rights without his permission . In fine , It is impossible that Protestants should regard as Indifferent , or as Tolerable in Christian Religion , a Dignity which is absolutely opposite to the Spirit of Christianism . This Spirit is Humility , Poverty , Despising the World , Obedience , Renouncing all kind of Pomp , Grandeur , and Vanity . After that they would have us to regard , as Prince Spiritual of the Christian World , a Man that is Crowned with all the Pomp of the Kings of the Earth ; that makes his Feet to be kissed by the Persons of the greatest Quality ; that is carried on Mens Shoulders , and who carries the Rights of Soveraignty , and the Characters of Puissance , beyond what was ever imagined . But after having considered the Pope is the Theology of Politicians , who keep within general Terms ; why should it not be lawful to us , to regard him in an Italian Theology ? See what it is in this Italian Theology , It is a Man that cannot be tied nor untied by a Regular Power ; who was called God , by Constantine . Now it is manifest that God cannot be judged by Men. It is a Man , whose Faults cannot be admonished on Earth , though he should be known to neglect his own Salvation , and that of his Brethren ; useless and relaxed in his Works , silencing the Good , and leading with himself Crowds of Men to the first slavery of Hell ; because being setled to judge all the rest , He may not be judged of any . It is a Man , whom none of the Councils lawfully Assembled durst ever judge ; because he is the Judge of all . On the contrary , Councils have often cried , The first Seat is Judged of none ; and they say to the Pope , Judge your self , Justifie or Condem your self . It is a Man , whereof the Roman Ceremonial saith , That as oft as the Emperour seeth him , he ought to salute him , bare his Head , and kneel to him ; approach his Throne , kiss his Feet devoutly , hold his Stirrup till he be got up , then takes his Horse by the Bridle and leads him some Paces . And in whatever Town , where the Pope is to be carried in a Chair , the Prince of the place , though he were a King , must carry the Chair some steps , with the greatest Lords of the Country . It is a Man , that can do all what is needful to lead Souls to Paradise , and may take away all Obstacles , which the World and the Devil , with all their Strength and Craft , can oppose . It is a Man , that can suffer the Title of Vice-God , as Paul the Fifth , in the beginning of this Age. They made Pictures and Dedications with this Inscription , Paulo Quinto Vice-Deo , &c. Most Invincible of the Christian Republick , &c. It is a Man of whom the Canonists say , Restituit Papa solus , deponit & ipse , Dividit ac unit , eximit atque probat , Articulos solvit , Synodumque facit Generalem , transfert & mutat , appellat nullus ab illo . That is to say , That he alone settles , deposes , divides , unites , condemns , approves , breaks Articles , makes Councils , transports , and changes according to his good pleasure without appeal . It is a Man that gives Realms at his Will , loosens Subjects from their Oath made to their Prince , who is Master of the Temporal of Kings . It is a Man , who alone possesses the Priviledge of Infallibility , and who is the only Oracle of the Church . It is a Man , that can dispense against Laws Divine and Human ; and according to the plenitude of his Power , dispences above Right and Law , dispences against Apostles and their Canons ; against the Old Testament , about Tithes , Vows , and Oaths . It is a Man , whom they set upon the Altar , when he is Chosen , and then to go to Adoration . It is a Man , that can suffer to be told in a full Council , Do so , that we may never lose the Spirit , Life , and Salvation , which thou hast given us . Thou art the Pastour , the Physician , the Pilot , the Patron : Thou art , in fine , God on Earth . It is a Man that likes it well , that in the same Council they should apply to him these Words of Psalm 72. Aethiopians shall come , &c. his Enemies shall lick the dust ; all Kings shall adore him , all Nations shall serve him . It is there also where they stiled him , The Divine Majesty . In fine , He is a Man that likes to be called , Lord of Lords ; Most Prudent , Most Wise , Adored of all Men. If this Power be not lawful , why would they have us to submit thereto ? How could that agree with our Principles ? These are happily the things which Monsieur de Condom means , and whereof he saith , That Ministers cease not to relate them , to render that Power odious . You know well , say they , that this Italian Theology is slighted : They do not Canonize in France the Excess of the Canonists ; contrarily they are condemned : And you cannot be ignorant , that the Gallican Church hath still opposed them . I grant it , if they please : Why then , would they that I should regard the Pope , under the Idea which the Gallican Church forms , rather than under that which the Roman Church ? I always heard say , That to know a Subject , we must not regard him in the Opinion which certain Persons have of him ; but in himself , in that which he saith of himself , and what he doth . Now it is certain , that the Pope is in himself what the Canonists have made him ; and that he thinks of himself what the Canonists have said ; for it is he that hath caused those Canonists to write : It is the Canon Law of the Roman Church , approved generally by the Court of Rome , and according to which they rule their Conduct . The Gallican Church may do what they please ; the Pope doth still keep himself in the possession of Excommunicating Kings , dispensing their Subjects to the Oath of Fidelity , of transporting their Kingdoms to others , and exercising in general , all Actions of that Power which is attributed to him by the Canon Law. It is clear then , I must regard the Pope , not by what the French say of him , but in what he is , and what he doth . Men may say , that a thing should be white , when it is black , and blacks others that changes nothing therein . Besides that , I see not why they could not regard him in France , under the Character they give him in France it self . The Council of Lateran , wherein the Pope was called , The Divine Majesty , Vice-●od ▪ King of Kings , puts himself above all Councils , is printed in France with the Kings Priviledge , under the di ection of the Fathers Labbé and Cossart , without any Correctiff . Can France have lost the Memory of that terrible . Harangue , which was made in the grand Convention of the States 1615. by Cardinal Perron , in the Name of all the Clergy of the Kingdom ? They would have passed an Ordinance , in those States , That no Subject , under any Pretence , could be dispensed from the Oath of Fidelity . The Gallican Church , by the Mouth of a French Cardinal , opposed it , and attributed to the Pope all that excess of Power that frights us : How after that can any Man boast of the Sense of the Gallican Church ? But happily , pretend they ; That Innocent the Eleventh , who holds now the Seat , hath renounced to all those Pretences that so offend us , and hath reduced himself to the Moderation of the Gallican Church , because he approves by a Brief Monsieur de Condom ▪ s Book ; and that Book of Monsieur de Condom saith , That there are things , whereof they Dispute in the Schools , which the Ministers cease not to alledge , to render that Puissance odious ; but that it is not necessary to speak thereof , seeing they are not of the Catholick Faith. In Conscience can Men believe , that the Court of Rome , by the touch of a Pen , and without being either forc'd or sollicited , had renounced all her magnificent Pretences , to all those Priviledges , which they have acquired by the effusion of so much Blood , and for which they were like to have overthrown all during the Sitting of the Council of Trent , in the fear they had , that it was intended to have a stroak at them . These Disputes of the Schools , in the Sense of the Court of Rome , are but the Nice Trifles wherein Canonists agree not ; although in the sight of my Lord of Condom , they are possibly what we regard as Capital . Men know how to find a commodious Sense in Terms more difficult to turns ; and the Court of Rome finds enough to satisfie themselves in these Words of Monsieur de Condom , [ That Men ought to render to the Pope , the Submission and Obedience which the Holy Councils have always taught the Faithful . ] The two last of those Holy Councils , are the Fifth of Lateran , which is Counted General ; and that of Trent , for which my Lord of Condom hath so great a respect . Those two Councils carry the Popes Authority , as far as it can go , at least it will not be a Dispute of Schools , to know whether they may call the Pope , Our holy Lord ; for the Council of Trent seldom calls him otherwise ; although the Apostles have not called the Son of God , but Our Lord simply . It must neither be a Dispute of the Schools , to know , whether the Pope be Superiour to the Council ; for the Council of Trent submitted so fully to him , that they did nothing withut his Order ; and seeing they proposed nothing but by the Pope , Proponentibus legatis ; since it declared not to pretend to touch the Authority of the Holy See , nor submit him to their Canons ; and since it demanded from the Pope , the Confirmation of all their Decrees ; and indeed , the Pope is at this day so far Master of this Council , that he Dispenses against all their Canons . After all this , how can they invite us to re-enter into the Roman Church , whilst such a Power shall subsist ? We that pretend , That the Power of Pastours is a Pure Ministry ? We that believe , That Jesus Christ hath not left them any Jurisdiction on Consciences ? We that acknowledge no other Universal Head of the Church , but Jesus Christ ? We that believe , That Humility is of the Essence of the Ministry Evangelical ? We that ascribe no Adoration nor Divine Majesty , but to GOD ? ARTICLE XVII . Of the Points which Monsieur de Condom hath forgotten ; Of the Worship in an Vnknown Tongue ; Of the Multitude of Ceremonies ; Of Masses without Communicants ; Of forced Celibat . I Do heartily consent to what Monsieur de Condem wishes , to lay apart divers Questions , that we regard not as a lawful Subject of Rupture ; but we cannot advance our Complaisance so far , as to confess all that he hath left , and whereof he hath not spoken , be of this Number . I could add divers Points , which are most Essential , and which Justifie our Separation ; but I confine my self to Four , that I may not be accused , to make Subjects of Separation where there are none . I. The First is the Necessity which the Roman Church hath imposed on her self , to have their Service in the Latin Tongue , which is not understood of the People . I know not why Monsieur de Condom doth not take away the Scruples that we could have thereon ; but we are obliged in Conscience to advertize them , that that alone would be capable of hindring us from re-entring into the Roman Church , though there were nothing else to stay us ; because that nothing is more opposed to the Intention of Jesus Christ , who hath instituted his Service with purpose , that his People might be Edified thereby . Although they could say the best and holiest things in the World , that could serve for nothing ; seeing that the Spirit and the Heart , that could not understand them , could not be edified thereby . II. The Second thing which Monsieur de Condom hath forgotten , is the multitude of Ceremonies ; and it is an Article that we cannot pass any more than the others , that makes an Essential difference between Religions . Judaism and Christianism differ Essentially , and only by that , they call us to another Yoke like to that of the Jewish Church . We do not believe we can suffer it with a good Conscience , I have considered those Ceremonies as opposed to the true Service of God ; because the most are destined to honour Saints , Images , Relicks , the Sacrament of the Eucharist , and other Creatures . At present I consider only their Number and their Uselesness ; and under that regard , I maintain , that they are absolutely opposed to the Spirit of Christianism . We must not imagine , that it is but a small ill to be useless in matter of Religion . The Gospel condemns to the Fire the Useless Servant , and punishes with Eternal Pains Unfruitful Works . Let them not say , That at the most those Ceremonies are Useless . That which doth not serve in Religion doth much hurt . Those Ceremonies are not come from a good place , for the most have been borrowed or imitated from those Religions , with whom Christian Religion should in honour have nothing Common . They have been introduced under the Pretence of Helping Devotion , and we find on the contrary , that fastning our Spirit to the Bark of Religion , it hinders him from piercing into its Internals . The Hearts and Spirits of the Vulgar , are but of a small Capacity . When they are filled with those Multitudes of Ceremonies , true Piety finds no more place . The People see Churches magnificently Adorn'd , Images , Statues , Priests that celebrate Mysteries with great Pomp ; they see a Worship composed of a great number of Mystical Actions , whereof they know neither signification , nor end ; and all that covered with the Veil of a Strange Tongue . This Composure of Ceremonies , which hath a great Air of Magnificence , surprizes the Senses , strikes the Imagination , dazles their feeble Lights , occupies the Capacities of their hearts , and fills them with an odd kind of Admiration , and of a confused Veneration , meerly Corporal and Mechanical , whereby they believe they do satisfie their Duty abundantly . The more Superficies that a Body hath , the less Solidity . Ceremonies are the Superficies of Religion , and it is certain that they produce a Superficial Piety . For the most , they that are the worst Christians , are they that do most give up themselves to these Appearances , and who are the most exact in the Observations of these Ceremonies . So may one say truly , that they compose a Veil and a Refuge for Hypocrisie , An Hypocrite , that will not submit to that Obedience which God demands , and that will not renounce such a Crime , is content to pay God with Ceremonies : He essays to satisfie his Conscience therewithal , and perswades himself , that God should be contented therewith . This affected Magnificence is unworthy the Grandeur and Majesty of Religion . Her Mysteries are too beautiful to be hid , and this great Apparel of Ceremonies is not , as they believe , a Garment for her Ornaments , but it is a pompous Tomb , wherein she lies buried . There is no need of placing Mysteries in Habits , in Gestures , and in Visible Actions ; Religion hath Mysteries abundantly sufficient to fill the Heart . and occupy the Spirit . The Perfection of Religion , consists in exposing the Native Beauties of her Mysteries to the clear sight of Men. Therefore the most perfect of Religions is that of the Blessed Souls , that see all Mysteries without Veils . The least perfect of Religions was that of Moses , which did cover all her Mysteries under the Shadows of her Ceremonies . It 's plain , that Christian Religion holds the Middle , between the Religion of the glorified Saints , which hath no Ceremonies ; and that of the Jews , which was wholly made up of them . Therefore she must have some Ceremonies , which are the Sacraments ; but she must have but few ; and to load her therewith , is to bring back Judaism . In fine , We have a just Reason to refuse all Reconciliation with the Multitude of those Ceremonies ; they have produced part of those Evils whereof we complain at this day . There are some of them which were introduced in the beginning , without any ill Intention ; but afterwards they have thence drawn Consequences which have ruined the Truth . In the First Ages , there was nothing more simple than the Celebration of the Eucharist . Justin Martyr tells us , That they took Wine , that they mixed it with Water , that they Blessed it together with the Bread , and that they distributed it to the Assistants by the hands of the Deacons . But the ill understood Devotion of the following Ages , did swell up this Sacrament with great Numbers of Ceremonies . They that followed after , in those Ages of Ignorance , did judge , that the Body of Jesus Christ was at least really under them , seeing they did celebrate this Mystery with so much Pomp. And in fine , Finding in the Sacrament all the Ceremonies of a Sacrifice ; it became easie to them to fall into the Conceit , that indeed it is a Propitiatory Sacrifice . This is a part of the Reasons which make us to regard this great Heap of Ceremonies , as a Worship wherein we never ought to Communicate . III. Monsieur de Condom , in the Matter of the Eucharist and of the Sacrifice of the Mass , hath not said one word of Mases without Communicants ; I know not why ; for he could not be ignorant , that we regard that as a great Affair . Indeed one cannot imagine a greater Metamorphosis , than that which they have introduced thereby into the Sacrament of the Eucharist . It is certainly clear ▪ by the History of the Institution , and by the 11 th Chapter of the first Epistle of St. Paul to the Corinthians , that the Lord had given this Sacrament to be a Repast of Union and Charity , wherein all the Faithful were to have their part . Every one ought to Eat and Drink therein , in memory of the Benefit of the Death of his Saviour ; And they have made thereof a Spectacle of Devotion , where there is but one Actor , and all the Faithful are but Spectatours . The Author of the Institution saith , Eat and Drink all ; and at this day , One only Eats and Drinks ; the Devotion of all the rest consists only in Regarding and Contemplating . I could shew , That there is nothing so remote from God's Intention , nothing so opposite to the Ends for which this Sacrament hath been Instituted . But I will only be content to say , That such a Thing , in the Primitive Ages , would have passed for a Prodigy . If there should have been a great Assembly of Men , Professing to be Christians , in the midst whereof , at the Celebration of Mysteries , the Pastour only had Eaten ; the Faithful entring in would have taken them for a Company of Reprobates , and for a Church of Manicheans , who had in honour the Creatures of God , and Wine above all . These Gentlemen are too Learned to be ignorant of this Truth . There remains yet a Proof thereof in their Canon Law , where we read , That when Consecration is finished , all must Communicate or be put out of the Church ; for the Apostles have so Ordained , and the Roman Church observe it so . IV. I have but one Word to say , it 's about the Yoke of the Celibat , which they impose on so many Persons in the Roman Church . God forbid that we should blame the pure and voluntary Celibat : We say as St. Paul , that it were to be wished that the Ministers of the Gospel were as He ; they could serve then , both with less distraction , and with more Zeal , the Glory of God and the Salvation of the Faithful . But we cannot tolerate a Forced Celibat , which they impose on so many Men and so many Women , who are engaged either by Inconsideration , or by the Violence of their Superiours into a state , for which they are not fit at all . The design of finding an Establishment in the World , to have a Benefice whereon they might live , engages the Priests into the said Celibat ; and that is done , without having in the least consulted their Heart and their Conscience . In all Families , a Boy must be destined to the Church , with a prospect of enriching the House , and putting it into a better Condition . It is a Point that we can never digest , because that this kind of Celibat , is an inexhaustible and inevitable Source of Impurirties . I think now to have done all that Monsieur de Condom doth exact from him , that shall think it fit to Answer his Treatise . I have confuted nothing , and proved nothing ; I have only explained things , and I believe , that I have Explained with a very great Fidelity , if not with a great Exactness and piercing Wit. I have only proved the Three Things , that they permitted us to prove . The First , That in those places wherein Monsieur de Condom gives an Idea of his Religion , as Sweeter than that which we have , he doth it not with all that Fidelity whereof he is capable . In other places , where they would annihilate Disputes , what we have said doth clearly shew , That Objections and Disputes remain still entire ; that is the Second Thing which we were to prove . And finally , From the first I have shewed , That the Doctrine of the Roman Church destroys Foundations ; that is the Third Thing which Monsieur de Condom demanded . I Conclude , protesting , that I regard the Re-union of Christians , as the greatest Good that we can receive from Heaven . We are ready to buy it with the last drop of our Blood ; but we will never buy it by abandoning our Verities . FINIS . Notes, typically marginal, from the original text Notes for div A46370-e890 Cap. 8 , & 9. Part 1. Tr. 1. p. 4. Vid. Bellarmine de Sanctorum beat . l. 1. cap. 18. Enchirid . c. 12. prop. 4. 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