The true copy of tvvo letters, with their seuerall answeres, contayning the late apostasie of the Earle of Lauall, after his returne from Italy VVherein the principall poynts in controuersie with the papists, are learnedly and fully confuted. By D. Tilenus. Faythfully translated by D.D.S.
         Tilenus, Daniel, 1563-1633.
      
       
         
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             The true copy of tvvo letters, with their seuerall answeres, contayning the late apostasie of the Earle of Lauall, after his returne from Italy VVherein the principall poynts in controuersie with the papists, are learnedly and fully confuted. By D. Tilenus. Faythfully translated by D.D.S.
             Tilenus, Daniel, 1563-1633.
             Coligny, Guy Paul de, 1555-1586, attributed name.
             D. D. S.
             Laval, Antoine de, 1550-1631, attributed name.
          
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           THE
           True
           Copy
           of
           tvvo
           Letters
           ,
           with
           their
           seuerall
           Answeres
           ,
           contayning
           the
           late
           Apostasie
           of
           the
           Earle
           of
           Lauall
           ,
           after
           his
           returne
           from
           Italy
           .
        
         
           Wherein
           the
           principall
           poynts
           in
           controuersie
           with
           the
           Papists
           ,
           are
           learnedly
           and
           fully
           confuted
           ,
           By
           D.
           TILENVS
           .
        
         
           Faythfully
           translated
           by
           D.
           D.
           S.
           
        
         
           LONDON
           ,
           Printed
           by
           Simon
           Stafford
           ,
           for
           
             Nathanael
             Butter
          
           ,
           and
           are
           to
           be
           sold
           at
           his
           shop
           in
           Paules
           Churchyard
           ,
           neere
           S.
           Austens
           Gate
           .
           1605.
           
        
      
       
         
         
         
           To
           the
           most
           Christian
           and
           mighty
           
             Monarch
             ,
             James
             ,
             by
             the
             grace
             of
             God
             ,
          
           King
           of
           great
           Brittayne
           ,
           Fraunce
           and
           Ireland
           ,
           
             Defender
             of
             the
             true
             ,
             ancient
             ,
             and
          
           Catholike
           Fayth
           .
        
         
           MOst
           mighty
           and
           renowmed
           King
           ,
           behold
           ,
           I
           offer
           to
           your
           Maiesty
           these
           vnexpected
           and
           vntimeous
           letters
           ,
           wherein
           the
           fine
           and
           pure
           gold
           of
           Saba
           ,
           is
           mingled
           with
           the
           olde
           and
           corrupt
           drosse
           of
           Egypt
           ,
           to
           be
           tryde
           by
           the
           diuine
           touchstone
           of
           your
           sacred
           wisdome
           ,
           perswading
           myselfe
           ,
           that
           the
           reading
           of
           them
           shal
           not
           be
           so
           picasant
           to
           your
           Maiesties
           eares
           ,
           as
           the
           discontentment
           ,
           in
           beholding
           the
           sudden
           fall
           ,
           and
           miserable
           Apostasie
           of
           so
           great
           a
           personage
           ,
           and
           of
           my
           knowledge
           ,
           so
           greatly
           deuoted
           to
           your
           Maiesties
           seruice
           :
           besides
           that
           great
           hope
           and
           expectation
           ,
           which
           was
           had
           throughout
           all
           France
           of
           him
           ,
           to
           be
           (
           one
           day
           )
           a
           helpe
           and
           comfort
           to
           Christs
           true
           Church
           there
           .
           I
           may
           here
           very
           well
           compare
           him
           to
           the
           folly
           of
           the
           Lark
           ,
           which
           ,
           while
           it
           playes
           with
           the
           feather
           ,
           and
           stoopeth
           ,
           is
           caught
           in
           the
           Fowlers
           net
           :
           so
           he
           ,
           dallying
           in
           his
           youth
           &
           prime
           of
           yeres
           ,
           
           being
           deceyued
           by
           the
           beautifull
           feathers
           &
           glasses
           of
           pleasant
           Italy
           ,
           was
           caught
           by
           the
           charming
           intisemēts
           of
           those
           Antichristian
           Vipers
           ,
           with
           whose
           venome
           being
           once
           stung
           ,
           hard
           was
           it
           to
           find
           such
           medicine
           ,
           for
           the
           cure
           of
           so
           dāgerous
           a
           discase
           :
           not
           doubting
           in
           this
           mean
           time
           ,
           but
           as
           your
           Maiesty
           would
           be
           glad
           to
           heare
           of
           his
           healing
           and
           rising
           againe
           to
           the
           imbracing
           of
           the
           truth
           ,
           from
           whence
           he
           fell
           :
           so
           likewise
           on
           the
           other
           part
           ,
           I
           am
           fully
           perswaded
           ,
           that
           your
           Maiesties
           wonted
           care
           shall
           continue
           in
           this
           your
           newe
           Monarchy
           ,
           that
           no
           person
           of
           any
           quality
           and
           marke
           hereafter
           ,
           shall
           bee
           licenced
           to
           trauell
           ,
           especially
           to
           Spaine
           &
           Italy
           (
           places
           most
           dangerous
           for
           practising
           of
           treasons
           ,
           &
           betraying
           of
           their
           own
           soules
           ;
           yea
           ,
           the
           liues
           of
           their
           owne
           Kings
           and
           countries
           )
           but
           with
           such
           a
           strict
           caueat
           ,
           that
           if
           they
           continue
           not
           constant
           in
           the
           profession
           of
           the
           truth
           ,
           wherin
           they
           haue
           bin
           taught
           ,
           that
           at
           their
           returne
           ,
           
             They
             shal
             expect
             the
             rigor
             of
             your
             lawes
             ,
             to
             be
             executed
             against
             them
             more
             seuerely
             then
             heretofore
             haue
             bin
             ,
             lest
             by
             their
             ouersight
             and
             daily
             increase
             ,
             they
             may
             not
             onely
             indanger
             Christes
             Church
             in
             your
             dominiōs
             ,
             but
             also
             your
             Maiesties
             person
             &
             state
             ,
             which
             God
             forbid
             should
             euer
             come
             to
             passe
             in
             this
             our
             age
             ,
             or
             in
             any
             other
             following
             .
          
           I
           craue
           humble
           pardon
           ,
           that
           remēbers
           other
           mens
           matters
           
           to
           your
           Maiesty
           ,
           in
           forgetting
           my self
           ;
           
             for
             charity
             should
             begin
             at
             her selfe
             ,
          
           praying
           in
           all
           submission
           ,
           that
           this
           small
           mite
           of
           mine
           may
           be
           receyued
           with
           that
           accustomed
           fauour
           (
           which
           sometime
           I
           inioyed
           more
           liberally
           ,
           )
           as
           your
           Maiesty
           vseth
           to
           accept
           the
           rich
           treasures
           of
           others
           dayly
           offered
           to
           your
           Maiesty
           ,
           and
           this
           to
           bee
           but
           the
           earnest
           of
           a
           better
           worke
           to
           follow
           ,
           and
           a
           remembrance
           of
           my
           dutifull
           affection
           ,
           humbly
           submitting
           my selfe
           ,
           and
           this
           my
           rude
           Translation
           ,
           to
           the
           royal
           &
           most
           learned
           censure
           of
           your
           Maiesty
           ,
           who
           can
           far
           better
           iudge
           therof
           ,
           then
           I
           haue
           deliuered
           it
           .
           I
           make
           an
           end
           ,
           beseeching
           the
           Almighty
           King
           of
           Kings
           ,
           long
           to
           preserue
           your
           Maiesties
           life
           ,
           &
           to
           prosper
           all
           your
           good
           actions
           and
           godly
           enterprises
           ,
           to
           his
           glory
           ,
           to
           the
           comfort
           and
           good
           of
           the
           Church
           and
           Common-wealth
           .
        
         
           
             Your
             Maiesties
             most
             humble
             and
             loyall
             Seruant
             ,
             D.
             D.
             S.
             
          
        
      
       
         
         
           The
           Translator
        
         
           NO
           man
           (
           Christian
           Reader
           )
           can
           serue
           two
           masters
           ,
           saith
           our
           Sauiour
           Christ
           ;
           for
           the
           cōfort
           that
           is
           of
           God
           is
           sweet
           and
           delectable
           :
           but
           this
           is
           not
           for
           al
           men
           ,
           but
           for
           those
           only
           ,
           which
           despise
           the
           vanities
           of
           this
           world
           .
           It
           is
           impossible
           to
           taste
           of
           God
           and
           his
           pleasures
           ,
           &
           to
           loue
           disordinately
           the
           things
           of
           this
           life
           .
           All
           men
           would
           inioy
           gladly
           the
           sweet
           conuersatiō
           of
           our
           Lord
           ;
           but
           few
           there
           be
           that
           will
           forgoe
           their
           owne
           worldly
           desires
           ,
           and
           willingly
           despise
           their
           earthly
           contentmēts
           :
           they
           desire
           greatly
           to
           haue
           the
           inward
           comfort
           of
           the
           soule
           ;
           but
           withall
           ,
           they
           desire
           to
           satisfy
           their
           own
           extraordinary
           lusts
           and
           appetites
           .
           This
           may
           well
           appeare
           in
           the
           Apostasy
           of
           this
           Noble
           man
           ,
           very
           godly
           &
           carefully
           broght
           vp
           in
           his
           tender
           yeeres
           in
           the
           true
           Religion
           ,
           who
           casting
           off
           all
           true
           feare
           of
           God
           ,
           loue
           of
           true
           Religion
           ,
           and
           the
           great
           honour
           &
           commendations
           that
           his
           house
           &
           predecessors
           had
           ,
           for
           professing
           &
           maintaining
           the
           same
           against
           the
           enemies
           therof
           ,
           suffering
           himselfe
           in
           the
           prime
           of
           his
           yeres
           ,
           with
           pride
           and
           preiudice
           ,
           two
           of
           his
           chiefe
           guides
           into
           Italy
           ,
           to
           be
           bereft
           of
           that
           precious
           &
           inestimable
           pearle
           of
           Christs
           verity
           :
           for
           pride
           insinuating
           her selfe
           ,
           crept
           into
           his
           soule
           (
           a
           most
           dangerous
           ghest
           )
           &
           taking
           once
           possession
           ,
           is
           very
           hard
           to
           be
           expelled
           againe
           .
           Preiudice
           on
           the
           other
           part
           ,
           so
           great
           an
           enemy
           to
           the
           
           truth
           ,
           that
           it
           makes
           the
           mind
           vncapable
           of
           it
           ;
           for
           if
           in
           his
           heart
           he
           had
           laid
           a
           sure
           groūd
           ,
           all
           his
           enemies
           had
           not
           shaken
           it
           ,
           much
           lesse
           ouer
           thrown
           his
           Religion
           .
           Ye
           see
           ,
           be
           loued
           ,
           what
           it
           is
           to
           serue
           two
           masters
           ,
           as
           he
           would
           haue
           done
           .
           I
           compare
           him
           vnto
           those
           ,
           who
           kindles
           a
           fire
           vnder
           greene
           wood
           ,
           and
           leaues
           it
           so
           soone
           as
           it
           begins
           to
           flame
           ,
           leauing
           off
           a
           good
           beginning
           ,
           for
           want
           of
           seconding
           it
           with
           a
           suteable
           proceeding
           :
           but
           rather
           lazily
           &
           cowardly
           being
           ouercome
           with
           the
           pleasures
           of
           the
           coūtry
           ,
           and
           the
           curiosity
           of
           his
           young
           and
           vayne
           conceits
           ,
           forgetting
           the
           seruice
           of
           God
           ,
           wherin
           he
           had
           liued
           before
           ,
           betook
           him
           to
           the
           seruice
           of
           Antichrist
           ,
           &
           with-drew
           himselfe
           ,
           as
           with
           a
           discontented
           mind
           ,
           from
           the
           company
           of
           his
           chiefe
           Gouernour
           ,
           both
           graue
           ,
           wise
           ,
           and
           godly
           ,
           giuing
           himselfe
           ouer
           to
           the
           company
           of
           those
           deuouring
           Serpents
           ,
           who
           neuer
           left
           him
           ,
           vntil
           he
           was
           broght
           into
           the
           endlesse
           Laborinth
           of
           their
           superstitious
           Idolatry
           ,
           &
           made
           his
           soule
           drunk
           with
           the
           new
           wine
           of
           the
           cup
           of
           the
           Beast
           .
           I
           beseech
           you
           therefore
           ,
           all
           that
           loue
           your
           owne
           saluation
           ,
           to
           take
           here
           your
           example
           ,
           and
           eschue
           the
           company
           of
           the
           vngodly
           &
           wicked
           ,
           but
           especially
           such
           ,
           as
           in
           the
           habits
           of
           simple
           Lambs
           ,
           come
           secretly
           as
           Wolues
           ,
           to
           infect
           and
           deuoure
           your
           soules
           ,
           vnder
           the
           pretence
           of
           holinesse
           and
           deuotion
           :
           and
           so
           I
           bid
           you
           farewell
           .
        
      
       
         
         
           
             The
             Translator
             to
             D.
             Tilenus
             ,
             his
             ancient
          
           acquaintance
           ,
           the
           Authour
           hereof
           .
        
         
           
             THou
             true
             TILENVS
             to
             thy
             Lord
             LAVALL
             ,
          
           
             And
             faithfull
             Teacher
             of
             his
             tender
             yeeres
             ,
          
           
             Thy
             learning
             great
             ,
             and
             pietie
             appeares
             ,
          
           
             By
             diuine
             answeres
             to
             repaire
             his
             fall
             :
          
           
             Thy
             truth
             doth
             shine
             ,
             his
             vntruth
             to
             deface
             .
          
           
             Thy
             heauenly
             dewe
             distilleth
             from
             aboue
             ,
          
           
             To
             heale
             his
             soule
             ,
             whom
             thou
             so
             deare
             didst
             loue
             ,
          
           
             And
             leadeth
             him
             the
             way
             to
             sauing
             grace
             :
          
           
             But
             if
             so
             be
             thy
             counsell
             hee
             neglect
             ,
          
           
             Yet
             thousand
             eyes
             shall
             read
             thy
             leaues
             and
             lindes
             ,
          
           
             And
             shall
             be
             scanned
             by
             a
             thousand
             mindes
             ,
          
           
             With
             endlesse
             praise
             thy
             Trophees
             to
             erect
             :
          
           
             Where
             your
             great
             fame
             ,
             and
             his
             disgrace
             shall
             stand
             ,
          
           
             Inrol'd
             fer
             euer
             with
             a
             Brittaynes
             hand
             .
          
           
             
               D.
               D.
               S.
               
            
          
        
      
       
         
         
           The
           Aduertisement
           of
           the
           Authour
           
             to
             the
             Christian
             Reader
          
           .
        
         
           CVriosity
           and
           pleasure
           are
           two
           dangerous
           diseases
           ,
           and
           euery
           one
           apart
           ,
           is
           strong
           ynough
           to
           ouercome
           his
           patient
           :
           how
           much
           more
           ,
           while
           being
           both
           together
           ,
           they
           conioyne
           to
           assayle
           him
           ,
           as
           it
           were
           ,
           agreeing
           both
           by
           the
           body
           and
           the
           soule
           ;
           the
           one
           ingendring
           himselfe
           within
           the
           spirit
           ,
           the
           other
           within
           the
           flesh
           ,
           each
           of
           them
           consuming
           and
           destroying
           the
           parts
           that
           breed
           it
           ;
           euen
           as
           the
           Worme
           destroyeth
           the
           Apple
           ,
           the
           Viper
           ,
           her
           mother
           :
           They
           symbolize
           in
           many
           things
           ,
           and
           as
           two
           sister-like
           twinnes
           ,
           they
           attyre
           thēselues
           with
           one selfe
           same
           habit
           ;
           the
           definition
           of
           the
           one
           ,
           not
           much
           disagreeing
           frō
           the
           nature
           of
           the
           other
           :
           So
           that
           to
           this
           end
           an
           ancient
           Father
           sayd
           ,
           That
           Adultery
           was
           nothing
           else
           ,
           but
           a
           curiosity
           of
           an
           other
           mans
           pleasure
           ;
           the
           one
           alienating
           the
           spirit
           of
           the
           patient
           from
           the
           knowledge
           of
           saluation
           ,
           and
           causing
           him
           to
           take
           appetite
           to
           those
           things
           ,
           wherof
           the
           ignorance
           is
           wisdome
           ,
           and
           the
           practice
           damnable
           ,
           maketh
           him
           the
           disciple
           of
           the
           father
           of
           lyes
           ,
           subiect
           to
           the
           Prince
           of
           darknesse
           ,
           the
           first
           inuenter
           of
           those
           mysteries
           of
           hell
           :
           the
           other
           changeth
           his
           body
           ,
           which
           ought
           to
           be
           the
           member
           of
           Iesus
           Christ
           ,
           the
           temple
           of
           the
           holy
           Ghost
           ,
           into
           the
           member
           of
           an
           harlot
           ,
           and
           habitation
           of
           vncleane
           spirits
           :
           both
           of
           them
           be
           bad
           ,
           very
           fit
           to
           corrupt
           youth
           ,
           to
           seduce
           it
           to
           the
           stewes
           of
           Antichrist
           ,
           where
           there
           is
           somewhat
           to
           please
           both
           those
           intising
           humours
           :
           for
           what
           doth
           more
           resemble
           the
           curiosity
           of
           Magicke
           ,
           then
           the
           charmes
           of
           hallowed
           
             Agnus
             Dei
          
           ,
           of
           the
           Transsubstantiation
           ?
           to
           the
           characters
           of
           Soccrers
           ,
           then
           the
           marks
           of
           the
           beast
           ,
           deciphered
           in
           the
           book
           of
           Reuelation
           ?
           A
           great
           part
           of
           this
           deuillish
           Art
           bewrayeth
           itselfe
           by
           auricular
           confession
           ,
           imitating
           the
           forme
           of
           interrogatories
           ,
           registred
           in
           the
           decrees
           of
           Buchart
           ,
           Bishop
           of
           
           Wormes
           .
           As
           touching
           the
           pleasure
           of
           the
           flesh
           ,
           where
           may
           a
           man
           find
           the
           exercise
           more
           free
           ,
           the
           excesse
           more
           enormous
           ,
           then
           within
           the
           great
           Babylon
           ,
           where
           the
           bodily
           lust
           hath
           no
           lesse
           sway
           ,
           then
           the
           spiritual
           :
           Where
           haue
           bin
           inuented
           these
           
           sacred
           Canons
           ,
           which
           do
           not
           only
           with
           the
           Council
           of
           Toledo
           ,
           
           permit
           concubines
           ,
           but
           also
           commaund
           and
           ordaine
           the
           community
           of
           wiues
           with
           Plato
           ,
           and
           of
           goods
           with
           the
           Anabaptists
           ?
           Behold
           these
           two
           rocks
           ,
           which
           ,
           as
           wel
           as
           ambition
           &
           couetousnes
           ,
           ouerwhelme
           the
           faith
           of
           many
           by
           lamentable
           shipwrack
           .
           This
           is
           the
           course
           ,
           wherin
           lately
           the
           
             Earle
             of
             Laual
          
           ouerthrew
           himselfe
           ,
           to
           the
           great
           griefe
           of
           those
           ,
           who
           hoped
           hee
           would
           one
           day
           succeede
           to
           the
           piety
           and
           vertue
           of
           his
           predecessors
           :
           but
           these
           qualities
           are
           gifts
           personall
           ,
           not
           hereditary
           ,
           as
           the
           name
           &
           temporall
           goods
           .
           After
           that
           he
           had
           languished
           a
           long
           time
           in
           these
           diseases
           ,
           possessing
           both
           his
           spirit
           &
           his
           flesh
           ,
           there
           was
           also
           marked
           in
           him
           diuers
           symptomes
           and
           signes
           of
           an
           euil
           successe
           ;
           and
           among
           other
           things
           ,
           was
           perceiued
           a
           fact
           direct
           cōtrary
           to
           that
           which
           S.
           Luke
           describes
           :
           for
           hauing
           past
           to
           change
           the
           ayre
           in
           Italy
           ,
           a
           country
           which
           is
           not
           thoght
           very
           good
           for
           those
           persons
           that
           be
           most
           
           wholsome
           and
           whole
           ,
           he
           did
           not
           refuse
           all
           kind
           of
           pleasures
           for
           his
           body
           ;
           &
           besides
           ,
           made
           prouision
           of
           mortall
           receits
           for
           his
           soule
           ,
           buying
           at
           a
           high
           rate
           ,
           writings
           ,
           like
           to
           those
           ,
           which
           the
           disciples
           of
           the
           Apostles
           cast
           into
           the
           fire
           ,
           notwithstāding
           they
           were
           of
           great
           value
           ,
           so
           soone
           as
           they
           did
           imbrace
           the
           christiā
           faith
           at
           Ephesus
           :
           by
           which
           purchase
           ,
           he
           declared
           very
           well
           ,
           to
           be
           more
           disposed
           to
           take
           place
           in
           the
           Temple
           of
           the
           great
           Diana
           of
           the
           Papists
           ,
           thē
           to
           haue
           preserued
           that
           wherwith
           it
           pleased
           God
           to
           haue
           honored
           him
           in
           his
           true
           Church
           ,
           who
           condēneth
           those
           detestable
           curiosities
           :
           and
           in
           the
           end
           ,
           the
           Apostem
           beginning
           to
           grow
           &
           gorge
           forth
           the
           venome
           contained
           in
           these
           his
           two
           letters
           ,
           in
           which
           he
           propoūdeth
           diuers
           questions
           ,
           not
           so
           much
           as
           to
           receiue
           light
           of
           his
           doubts
           ,
           wherin
           such
           diseases
           had
           tane
           away
           both
           his
           desire
           &
           vnderstāding
           :
           but
           because
           after
           a
           iust
           refusall
           of
           a
           verbal
           conferēce
           made
           vnto
           his
           vniust
           demaūds
           ,
           being
           addressed
           to
           those
           who
           vnderstood
           that
           resolutiō
           which
           he
           had
           already
           taken
           ,
           he
           had
           need
           thē
           of
           some
           other
           mask
           to
           end
           the
           Catastrophe
           of
           his
           Tragedy
           ,
           instead
           of
           extreme
           vnction
           ,
           &
           funerall
           preparations
           of
           his
           religiō
           dead
           in
           his
           soule
           long
           time
           before
           ,
           dissembling
           in
           the
           mean
           time
           this
           spiritual
           death
           toward
           these
           ,
           who
           did
           their
           indeuour
           for
           his
           preseruatiō
           ,
           as
           appeares
           in
           matters
           of
           estate
           ,
           who
           cōceale
           ,
           for
           certaine
           dayes
           ,
           the
           death
           of
           their
           great
           Princes
           :
           
           but
           seeing
           he
           could
           not
           so
           wel
           coūterfet
           the
           voyce
           of
           Iacob
           ,
           but
           that
           the
           hands
           of
           Esau
           did
           discouer
           him
           :
           neither
           was
           he
           able
           himself
           to
           support
           any
           longer
           the
           pestilēt
           smel
           which
           his
           neutrality
           did
           breathe
           forth
           amōg
           the
           liuing
           &
           the
           dead
           ,
           betwixt
           the
           preaching
           of
           the
           Gospel
           ,
           &
           the
           Idolatrous
           masse
           ,
           but
           that
           he
           was
           forced
           to
           discouer
           his
           maske
           .
        
         
           
             And
             hauing
             trāsported
             himselfe
             to
             the
             Couent
             of
             the
             Capucians
             in
             Paris
             ,
             he
             burted
             solemnly
             his
             religion
             ,
             accōpanied
             with
             many
             exorcismes
             ,
             abiurations
             ,
             confessions
             ,
             pentiencies
             ,
             and
             such
             ceremonies
             :
          
           which
           did
           serue
           him
           no
           lesse
           to
           his
           obsequ●es
           ,
           thē
           did
           the
           desperate
           painting
           &
           attiRes
           to
           Iesabel
           ,
           which
           she
           did
           take
           in
           the
           instāt
           houre
           she
           was
           to
           be
           cast
           Forth
           of
           the
           window
           to
           break
           her
           neck
           .
           They
           had
           great
           desire
           to
           adorne
           the
           lamentable
           pompe
           of
           the
           poore
           young
           Earle
           ,
           by
           some
           pray
           ,
           which
           they
           thought
           to
           haue
           caught
           on
           our
           professors
           :
           and
           to
           this
           effect
           ,
           after
           the
           refusall
           of
           the
           verball
           conference
           which
           he
           demanded
           ,
           the
           Iesuits
           had
           perswaded
           him
           to
           aduise
           in
           that
           same
           instant
           vpon
           the
           said
           doubts
           ,
           with
           diuers
           persons
           in
           diuers
           places
           ,
           hoping
           that
           in
           diuersity
           of
           stile
           ,
           they
           might
           incoūter
           certain
           differēces
           of
           beleeuing
           in
           those
           that
           should
           answer
           :
           but
           not
           finding
           one
           iust
           subiect
           on
           our
           part
           ,
           to
           fal
           in
           any
           such
           inconuenience
           ,
           but
           rather
           to
           alienate
           him
           frō
           the
           wickednes
           of
           the
           corrupters
           of
           his
           youth
           :
           We
           supposed
           nothing
           should
           diuert
           vs
           frō
           putting
           to
           light
           ,
           the
           obiections
           made
           on
           the
           one
           part
           ,
           &
           the
           answers
           giuen
           on
           the
           other
           side
           ;
           to
           the
           end
           ,
           that
           cōFerring
           the
           one
           with
           the
           other
           ,
           euery
           one
           who
           hath
           eyes
           to
           see
           ,
           may
           vnderstād
           ,
           that
           those
           which
           wil
           not
           know
           that
           which
           is
           ,
           should
           imagine
           to
           thēselues
           ,
           to
           see
           that
           which
           they
           see
           not
           ;
           which
           be
           the
           two
           kinds
           of
           blindnes
           ,
           wherwith
           God
           by
           his
           iust
           iudgement
           doth
           punish
           those
           that
           forsake
           the
           spirit
           for
           the
           flesh
           ,
           the
           truth
           for
           vanity
           ;
           the
           light
           for
           darknes
           ,
           the
           Sauiour
           of
           the
           world
           ,
           for
           the
           son
           of
           perdition
           :
           neuerthelesse
           ,
           we
           hope
           ,
           God
           willing
           ,
           that
           those
           ,
           who
           haue
           not
           much
           edified
           Christs
           Church
           by
           their
           life
           ,
           shall
           farre
           lesse
           ruine
           the
           same
           by
           their
           death
           ,
           seeing
           that
           their
           voluntary
           separation
           from
           our
           cōmunion
           ,
           doth
           no
           other
           thing
           then
           ease
           vs
           frō
           the
           necessary
           trouble
           of
           cutting
           thē
           off
           frō
           our
           society
           ;
           no
           more
           then
           the
           wind
           ,
           which
           driueth
           away
           the
           chaffe
           in
           the
           ayre
           ,
           easing
           thē
           which
           in
           the
           meane
           time
           are
           about
           to
           clense
           the
           floore
           .
        
         
           Farewell
           .
        
      
    
     
       
         
         
           The
           first
           letter
           of
           the
           Earle
           of
           
             Lauall
             ,
             to
             his
             master
             D.
             Telenus
             .
          
        
         
           
             
               SIR
               ,
               I
               am
               to
               render
               you
               exceeding
               great
               thanks
               ,
               for
               the
               receiuing
               in
               so
               good
               part
               ,
               the
               newes
               of
               my
               returne
               :
               but
               if
               any
               other
               hath
               noted
               the
               contrary
               in
               you
               ,
               that
               hath
               bin
               against
               my
               intention
               &
               meaning
               ,
               who
               haue
               nothing
               in
               more
               respect
               ,
               then
               to
               serue
               you
               ,
               and
               not
               in
               any
               sort
               to
               offend
               you
               .
               These
               faire
               instructions
               which
               pleased
               you
               to
               giue
               me
               ,
               haue
               brought
               into
               me
               a
               great
               ioy
               and
               contentment
               ,
               imagining
               with
               my selfe
               ,
               that
               they
               haue
               proceeded
               frō
               a
               person
               of
               such
               learning
               ,
               as
               you
               be
               ;
               and
               that
               beare
               mee
               such
               good
               will
               ,
               as
               to
               loue
               me
               :
               the
               one
               ,
               knowne
               to
               the
               whole
               world
               ,
               the
               other
               beleeued
               of
               me
               with
               a
               great
               satisfaction
               .
               But
               this
               discourse
               ,
               which
               it
               hath
               pleased
               you
               to
               propound
               ,
               touching
               the
               manifest
               difference
               of
               2.
               
               Religions
               ,
               hath
               moued
               in
               me
               a
               desire
               to
               learne
               more
               of
               you
               ,
               who
               hath
               left
               in
               me
               such
               a
               taste
               ,
               that
               I
               desire
               rather
               to
               make
               the
               demaunds
               of
               an
               ignorant
               ,
               then
               to
               be
               made
               wise
               in
               any
               thing
               by
               your
               answere
               .
               I
               will
               rather
               intreat
               you
               to
               instruct
               me
               in
               the
               controuersies
               ,
               then
               to
               strengthen
               mee
               in
               my
               beleefe
               .
               And
               first
               ,
               to
               shew
               me
               ,
               if
               the
               visible
               Church
               hath
               remained
               any
               space
               of
               time
               in
               her
               purity
               ,
               and
               how
               long
               ?
               or
               if
               she
               hath
               euerso
               remained
               ;
               or
               if
               she
               hath
               had
               only
               that
               quality
               of
               purity
               since
               Caluins
               time
               ?
               Secondly
               ,
               if
               ye
               hold
               for
               constant
               and
               firme
               ,
               the
               heads
               of
               Religion
               ,
               that
               were
               debated
               &
               resolued
               vpon
               ,
               in
               the
               soure
               first
               generall
               Councils
               ?
               Thirdly
               ,
               if
               the
               calling
               or
               sending
               be
               necessary
               to
               Ministers
               ,
               and
               of
               whom
               had
               Caluin
               it
               ?
               Fourthly
               ,
               if
               the
               sacred
               Scriptures
               interpret
               
               them
               ,
               then
               euery
               one
               is
               capable
               for
               the
               vnderstanding
               thereof
               .
               Fiftly
               ,
               all
               the
               Heresies
               that
               haue
               bene
               confuted
               ,
               doe
               wee
               not
               hold
               them
               iustly
               and
               well
               ouerthrowne
               ?
               Sixtly
               ,
               if
               we
               receiue
               the
               Fathers
               as
               witnesses
               only
               of
               matters
               of
               their
               time
               ,
               and
               as
               Historiographers
               ,
               or
               not
               ?
               Seuenthly
               ,
               if
               the
               inuocation
               of
               Saints
               be
               euil
               ,
               because
               it
               steales
               away
               the
               honour
               ,
               which
               is
               due
               vnto
               God
               :
               or
               if
               it
               be
               superfluous
               and
               to
               no
               purpose
               ,
               because
               they
               vnderstand
               vs
               not
               ?
               Eyghtly
               ,
               if
               all
               bodies
               bee
               circumscribed
               or
               not
               ?
               I
               pray
               you
               now
               ,
               not
               to
               answere
               so
               subtilly
               ,
               that
               I
               cannot
               vnderstand
               you
               ,
               lest
               perhaps
               ,
               you
               may
               distrust
               ,
               that
               some
               other
               ,
               and
               not
               my self
               haue
               made
               them
               :
               as
               you
               may
               iudge
               ,
               that
               the
               order
               and
               the
               stile
               cannot
               proceed
               but
               from
               such
               an
               ignorant
               person
               as
               I
               :
               so
               also
               ,
               the
               subiect
               and
               matter
               is
               conceyued
               in
               my
               spirit
               ,
               by
               writing
               of
               that
               ,
               to
               which
               ,
               for
               the
               most
               part
               ,
               there
               is
               need
               of
               no
               other
               answere
               ,
               but
               your
               nay
               .
               I
               craue
               your
               pardon
               for
               disturbing
               you
               from
               your
               graue
               and
               waighty
               affayres
               ,
               to
               learne
               me
               the
               A.
               B.
               C.
               and
               am
               ,
               and
               shall
               be
               more
               then
               any
               person
               ,
            
             
               
                 Your
                 most
                 affectionate
                 and
                 bound
                 disciple
                 ,
                 to
                 serue
                 you
                 ,
                 LAVALL
                 .
              
            
          
        
      
       
         
           D.
           Telenus
           Answere
           to
           the
           Earle
           of
           Laualls
           first
           Letter
           .
        
         
           
             
               SIR
               ,
               I
               prayse
               God
               with
               my
               whole
               heart
               ,
               that
               in
               the
               end
               he
               hath
               put
               in
               your
               mind
               ,
               this
               iust
               &
               right
               resolutiō
               ,
               as
               to
               keep
               one
               eare
               for
               the
               truth
               ,
               the
               which
               
               being
               in
               this
               world
               ,
               as
               in
               a
               strange
               &
               for
               raine
               country
               ,
               or
               as
               it
               were
               imprisoned
               by
               the
               father
               of
               lyes
               ,
               incounters
               more
               enemies
               that
               accuse
               her
               ,
               then
               of
               aduocates
               that
               defend
               her
               .
               I
               know
               her
               accusatiōs
               by
               those
               questions
               ,
               which
               it
               hath
               pleased
               you
               to
               demaund
               of
               me
               :
               your
               modesty
               requires
               ,
               that
               I
               receiue
               them
               ,
               as
               from
               the
               part
               of
               an
               ignorant
               :
               but
               it
               is
               a
               long
               time
               since
               I
               learned
               ,
               that
               the
               most
               profound
               Doctors
               of
               Sorbon
               could
               not
               bring
               forth
               more
               better
               ,
               nor
               more
               beautifull
               .
               Neuertheles
               ,
               I
               reioyce
               to
               behold
               you
               to
               take
               on
               the
               quality
               of
               a
               disciple
               ,
               that
               binds
               your
               conscience
               to
               delay
               all
               reuolting
               at
               least
               ,
               vntill
               that
               time
               ,
               that
               sure
               knowledge
               shall
               teach
               you
               both
               the
               reason
               &
               the
               groūd
               therof
               :
               but
               I
               beseech
               you
               to
               pardon
               me
               ,
               if
               my
               answers
               surpasse
               a
               little
               the
               limits
               of
               yea
               and
               nay
               ,
               which
               your
               letter
               hath
               prescribed
               me
               ,
               considering
               ,
               that
               there
               requireth
               a
               little
               more
               time
               to
               draw
               a
               stone
               out
               of
               a
               pit
               ,
               then
               in
               casting
               of
               it
               in
               ;
               and
               that
               the
               center
               &
               the
               circumference
               of
               an
               answer
               ,
               well
               made
               ,
               is
               not
               only
               so
               much
               the
               wil
               of
               him
               that
               makes
               ,
               the
               demaund
               ,
               but
               principally
               the
               need
               he
               hath
               to
               know
               &
               vnderstand
               it
               .
               Also
               I
               perswade
               my self
               ,
               that
               ye
               vnderstand
               not
               the
               name
               of
               disciple
               after
               the
               maner
               of
               the
               Pithagoreans
               ,
               that
               alledge
               for
               all
               reasons
               &
               answers
               ,
               the
               yea
               and
               the
               nay
               of
               their
               master
               :
               a
               style
               ,
               which
               for
               the
               present
               is
               not
               fitting
               but
               to
               the
               disciples
               of
               the
               Pope
               ,
               of
               whom
               only
               selfewil
               holds
               the
               place
               of
               all
               reason
               &
               authority
               .
               And
               although
               you
               desire
               to
               be
               rather
               instructed
               in
               the
               controuersies
               ,
               then
               fortified
               in
               your
               beleefe
               :
               and
               that
               you
               perceyuing
               so
               clearely
               ,
               that
               such
               answers
               ,
               vpon
               doubtfull
               and
               intricate
               questions
               ,
               should
               serue
               meerely
               all
               ,
               eyther
               for
               the
               one
               ,
               or
               for
               the
               other
               ,
               and
               would
               increase
               in
               you
               ,
               rather
               the
               number
               of
               your
               
               doubts
               ,
               then
               lighten
               the
               darknesse
               of
               your
               ignorance
               ,
               by
               the
               light
               of
               that
               same
               knowledge
               ,
               which
               consisteth
               not
               in
               the
               simple
               affirmation
               or
               negation
               ,
               but
               in
               solide
               and
               necessary
               demonstration
               .
               Such
               was
               the
               opinion
               of
               S.
               Austen
               praysing
               Nebridius
               ,
               which
               hated
               greatly
               a
               short
               answere
               to
               a
               great
               question
               ,
               iudging
               him
               that
               knew
               not
               how
               many
               things
               might
               and
               ought
               therevpon
               bee
               spoken
               ,
               was
               not
               worthy
               to
               haue
               propounded
               them
               .
               And
               since
               that
               the
               almighty
               God
               would
               not
               permit
               that
               I
               should
               remayne
               neere
               your
               person
               ,
               vntill
               that
               time
               ,
               that
               your
               age
               should
               bee
               more
               capable
               of
               more
               exact
               instructions
               :
               I
               thought
               ,
               notwithstanding
               my
               farre
               absence
               ,
               I
               was
               bound
               to
               repayre
               that
               breach
               ,
               that
               in
               taking
               vpon
               you
               the
               title
               of
               a
               disciple
               in
               your
               letter
               ,
               you
               haue
               honored
               me
               in
               that
               ,
               which
               sometime
               I
               inioyed
               :
               and
               hauing
               not
               since
               changed
               any
               thing
               ,
               except
               my
               dwelling
               ,
               and
               not
               my
               affections
               to
               continue
               my
               seruice
               towards
               you
               ,
               I
               should
               bee
               thought
               vnworthy
               of
               your
               good
               will
               and
               kindnes
               ,
               if
               I
               should
               content
               mee
               ,
               after
               the
               maner
               of
               Trumpets
               ,
               to
               haue
               giuen
               you
               courage
               by
               my
               former
               letter
               ,
               without
               bringing
               now
               the
               helpe
               and
               succour
               ,
               which
               you
               craue
               against
               the
               assaults
               of
               your
               doubts
               .
            
             
               The
               first
               Question
               ,
               or
               rather
               doubt
               ,
               which
               you
               demaund
               of
               mee
               ,
               is
               this
               ,
               
                 If
                 the
                 Church
                 visible
                 hath
                 remayned
                 any
                 certayne
                 time
                 in
                 her
                 purity
                 ,
                 and
                 how
                 long
                 ?
                 Or
                 if
                 she
                 hath
                 remained
                 continually
                 ?
                 Or
                 whether
                 shee
                 hath
                 this
                 purity
                 since
              
               Caluins
               time
               ?
            
             
               To
               them
               then
               who
               assault
               you
               ,
               and
               that
               make
               no
               other
               Buckler
               but
               of
               the
               Fathers
               ,
               they
               shall
               suffer
               me
               to
               answere
               to
               this
               question
               by
               the
               mouth
               of
               Eusebius
               ,
               or
               by
               Egysippus
               ,
               who
               is
               more
               ancient
               then
               Eusebius
               ;
               
               and
               very
               neere
               to
               the
               age
               of
               the
               Apostles
               themselues
               ,
               who
               sayes
               in
               his
               History
               ecclesiastical
               ,
               that
               the
               Church
               hath
               remayned
               virgin-pure
               ,
               chaste
               ,
               and
               whole
               ,
               so
               long
               as
               the
               Apostles
               did
               liue
               ;
               and
               after
               the
               generation
               of
               those
               ,
               who
               had
               heard
               that
               heauenly
               wisedome
               with
               their
               owne
               eares
               ,
               then
               errour
               entred
               ,
               and
               tooke
               possession
               within
               the
               Church
               :
               but
               to
               others
               that
               desire
               instruction
               ,
               there
               is
               required
               a
               more
               particular
               answere
               ,
               lest
               they
               should
               thinke
               ,
               that
               wee
               desire
               rather
               to
               cut
               the
               knots
               ,
               then
               to
               loose
               them
               :
               I
               say
               then
               ,
               that
               this
               purity
               is
               to
               be
               considered
               ,
               either
               in
               regard
               of
               the
               doctrine
               ,
               or
               good
               life
               ;
               and
               that
               both
               the
               one
               and
               the
               other
               is
               in
               the
               Church
               ,
               according
               to
               the
               condition
               and
               measure
               ,
               which
               is
               assigned
               to
               her
               ,
               during
               the
               space
               of
               her
               residence
               heere
               on
               the
               earth
               :
               
               in
               the
               which
               estate
               ,
               as
               touching
               her
               head
               ,
               who
               is
               Iesus
               Christ
               ,
               she
               is
               euer
               pure
               ;
               but
               not
               altogether
               pure
               in
               herselfe
               :
               for
               seeing
               euery
               member
               of
               the
               same
               is
               subiect
               to
               fayle
               ,
               as
               well
               in
               doctrine
               ,
               as
               in
               life
               ,
               and
               that
               wee
               knowe
               her
               heere
               but
               in
               part
               ;
               the
               body
               which
               is
               composed
               of
               these
               members
               ,
               cannot
               bee
               
               wholy
               pure
               and
               perfit
               :
               and
               to
               consider
               the
               body
               of
               the
               Church
               ,
               without
               her
               members
               particular
               ,
               whereof
               shee
               is
               compound
               ,
               were
               as
               much
               ,
               as
               to
               transforme
               her
               into
               an
               
                 Idea
                 Platonica
              
               ,
               only
               the
               Prophets
               and
               Apostles
               ,
               by
               a
               vocation
               ,
               and
               speciall
               prerogatiue
               ,
               and
               by
               an
               assistance
               and
               helpe
               immediate
               &
               extraordinary
               of
               the
               holy
               Spirit
               ,
               were
               exempt
               and
               free
               of
               all
               errour
               in
               the
               doctrine
               ,
               the
               which
               in
               this
               respect
               ,
               and
               by
               good
               reason
               ,
               is
               the
               true
               and
               onely
               rule
               of
               all
               purity
               :
               and
               according
               as
               the
               Church
               drawes
               either
               neere
               ,
               or
               is
               far
               distant
               ,
               the
               measure
               of
               her
               purity
               increaseth
               or
               decreaseth
               :
               and
               
               when
               she
               is
               called
               pure
               ,
               that
               is
               ,
               either
               in
               respect
               of
               her
               head
               ,
               or
               in
               regard
               of
               a
               part
               thereof
               ,
               which
               is
               receyued
               in
               the
               heauens
               ,
               which
               they
               call
               the
               Church
               Triumphant
               ;
               or
               ,
               rather
               in
               regard
               of
               the
               end
               shee
               aymes
               at
               in
               this
               world
               ;
               euen
               so
               ,
               as
               they
               call
               a
               house
               ,
               an
               edifice
               ,
               which
               is
               but
               yet
               in
               building
               ,
               and
               before
               it
               be
               complete
               and
               ended
               .
               And
               like
               as
               the
               purity
               of
               the
               Church
               is
               subiect
               to
               alteration
               ;
               euen
               so
               is
               her
               forme
               or
               externall
               behauiour
               ,
               in
               respect
               whereof
               ,
               they
               call
               it
               visible
               :
               for
               although
               she
               remayne
               euer
               visible
               in
               her selfe
               ,
               yet
               so
               is
               it
               ,
               that
               she
               is
               not
               alwayes
               visible
               to
               others
               ,
               especially
               to
               those
               that
               haue
               not
               the
               eyes
               which
               be
               requisite
               for
               the
               seeing
               of
               her
               ;
               as
               the
               Sunne
               it selfe
               is
               not
               to
               be
               seene
               by
               
               a
               blind
               man
               :
               and
               the
               Almighty
               ,
               for
               the
               preseruing
               of
               her
               from
               her
               persecutors
               ,
               retyred
               her
               sometimes
               to
               the
               wildernesse
               ,
               to
               secret
               caues
               and
               dennes
               ,
               euen
               as
               he
               did
               withdraw
               his
               Sonne
               Christ
               Iesus
               into
               Egypt
               ,
               to
               preserue
               him
               from
               the
               rage
               of
               Herode
               :
               And
               then
               shee
               became
               inuisible
               ,
               but
               not
               to
               God
               ,
               neyther
               to
               herselfe
               ,
               but
               only
               to
               the
               eyes
               and
               iudgement
               of
               the
               blind
               world
               .
               I
               say
               then
               ,
               that
               the
               Church
               militant
               hath
               euer
               retained
               that
               measure
               of
               purity
               ,
               which
               the
               holy
               Ghost
               hath
               communicated
               to
               her
               ,
               not
               only
               since
               Caluins
               time
               ,
               but
               the
               Apostles
               dayes
               ,
               euen
               to
               vs
               present
               this
               day
               :
               As
               also
               the
               sayd
               measure
               was
               much
               different
               &
               diuers
               in
               sundry
               times
               &
               places
               ,
               the
               which
               vndoubtedly
               did
               moue
               the
               ancient
               Fathers
               ,
               to
               compare
               the
               Church
               vnto
               the
               Moone
               ,
               which
               sheweth
               her selfe
               sometimes
               of
               more
               ,
               otherwhiles
               of
               lesse
               light
               ,
               as
               it
               were
               eclipsed
               ,
               and
               hides
               herselfe
               altogether
               ,
               as
               it
               were
               ,
               from
               the
               world
               ,
               without
               danger
               notwithstanding
               all
               this
               ,
               either
               to
               be
               lost
               or
               scattered
               ,
               as
               well
               appeared
               in
               the
               Church
               of
               Israel
               ,
               in
               the
               
               time
               of
               Ely
               the
               Prophet
               ,
               where
               there
               was
               a
               Church
               of
               seuen
               thousand
               ,
               that
               did
               not
               bow
               their
               knees
               to
               Baal
               ,
               which
               was
               not
               perceiued
               there
               externally
               .
               If
               your
               pretended
               teachers
               shall
               not
               graunt
               vnto
               me
               ,
               that
               which
               heretofore
               is
               alledged
               ,
               I
               shall
               cause
               them
               ,
               by
               the
               authority
               of
               Bellarmine
               ,
               to
               deny
               the
               purity
               of
               their
               owne
               Romane
               Church
               ,
               and
               after
               this
               maner
               I
               will
               proue
               it
               :
               
                 The
                 Church
                 that
                 may
                 altogether
                 bee
                 compounded
                 of
                 vnfaithfull
                 persons
                 ,
                 wicked
                 and
                 reprobates
                 ,
                 can
                 haue
                 ,
                 neither
                 puritie
                 in
                 her
                 faith
                 ,
                 nor
                 in
                 her
                 life
                 .
              
            
             
               But
               so
               it
               is
               ,
               that
               the
               church
               so
               described
               by
               Bellarmine
               ,
               may
               be
               wholy
               composed
               of
               such
               people
               :
               therfore
               she
               can
               haue
               no
               kind
               of
               purity
               .
               The
               Assumption
               is
               proued
               and
               made
               cleare
               in
               his
               booke
               of
               the
               Church
               ,
               in
               the
               last
               
               Paragraph
               ,
               where
               Bellarmine
               saith
               ,
               that
               is
               the
               definitiō
               of
               the
               Church
               ,
               according
               to
               the
               which
               ,
               some
               be
               of
               the
               body
               ,
               &
               not
               of
               the
               soule
               thereof
               ,
               hauing
               no
               internall
               vertue
               ,
               and
               being
               as
               it
               were
               ,
               the
               haire
               ,
               the
               nayles
               ,
               and
               corrupt
               humours
               of
               the
               body
               of
               man
               :
               and
               of
               such
               sort
               be
               the
               Infidels
               ,
               wicked
               and
               reprobates
               ,
               as
               Bellarmine
               himself
               expresseth
               them
               ,
               who
               may
               make
               external
               professiō
               of
               faith
               ,
               cōmunicate
               to
               the
               Sacraments
               ,
               &
               subiect
               thēselues
               to
               the
               Pope
               ,
               which
               be
               the
               3.
               essentiall
               conditiōs
               and
               only
               necessaries
               according
               to
               this
               Cardinall
               ,
               for
               to
               be
               in
               the
               Church
               .
               By
               the
               same
               Authour
               ,
               I
               will
               argue
               againe
               after
               another
               maner
               .
            
             
               That
               which
               may
               be
               destitute
               of
               fayth
               ,
               hope
               and
               charity
               ,
               cannot
               remaine
               in
               purity
               ,
               yea
               ,
               rather
               may
               lose
               all
               .
            
             
               But
               the
               church
               according
               to
               Bellarmine
               ,
               may
               be
               voyd
               of
               al
               those
               qualities
               :
               therfore
               she
               may
               lose
               al
               her
               purity
               .
            
             
               But
               if
               any
               shall
               reply
               ,
               that
               Bellarmine
               adioynes
               ,
               that
               the
               sayd
               vertues
               are
               to
               bee
               found
               neuerthelesse
               in
               the
               
               Church
               .
               I
               aske
               ,
               whether
               they
               be
               of
               the
               essence
               of
               the
               Church
               ,
               or
               not
               ?
               If
               the
               first
               ,
               wherfore
               sayes
               he
               in
               his
               definition
               ,
               that
               they
               be
               not
               necessary
               ?
               But
               if
               the
               second
               ,
               how
               can
               a
               Church
               without
               faith
               ,
               hope
               and
               charity
               ,
               bee
               thought
               pure
               ?
            
             
               Learne
               then
               (
               sir
               )
               by
               these
               two
               arguments
               ,
               as
               by
               two
               marks
               ,
               or
               rather
               ensignes
               ,
               the
               purity
               of
               the
               place
               ,
               where
               those
               people
               would
               lodge
               you
               :
               neuertheles
               ,
               this
               is
               that
               
               Church
               which
               Cardinall
               Baronius
               maintaynes
               and
               defends
               to
               haue
               neither
               spot
               nor
               blemish
               .
            
             
               Wheras
               ye
               write
               &
               desire
               ,
               that
               the
               time
               may
               be
               shewed
               and
               marked
               ,
               in
               the
               which
               errours
               and
               vncleannes
               haue
               entred
               into
               the
               Church
               of
               Rome
               :
               surely
               ,
               this
               discourse
               would
               prolong
               too
               much
               my
               letter
               ,
               which
               you
               desire
               me
               to
               make
               short
               ,
               &
               would
               importune
               more
               by
               her
               prolixity
               ,
               then
               it
               should
               instruct
               you
               by
               her
               vtility
               ,
               more
               proper
               to
               a
               history
               then
               to
               doctrine
               .
               Is
               it
               inough
               ,
               that
               a
               poore
               Hydropique
               should
               beleeue
               to
               be
               sicke
               ,
               &
               to
               haue
               need
               of
               phisike
               ,
               when
               he
               is
               so
               swolne
               ,
               that
               he
               is
               almost
               in
               danger
               to
               burst
               ,
               although
               none
               can
               precisely
               mark
               &
               shew
               him
               the
               houre
               when
               as
               his
               liuer
               began
               to
               be
               consumed
               ?
               Surely
               ,
               while
               as
               the
               fire
               is
               in
               the
               house
               ,
               the
               water
               within
               the
               ship
               ,
               the
               enemies
               within
               the
               town
               ,
               the
               Wolfe
               within
               the
               fold
               ,
               those
               that
               hope
               to
               preuent
               the
               danger
               ,
               or
               rather
               to
               preserue
               them
               be
               more
               aduised
               and
               circūspect
               ,
               then
               those
               that
               wil
               beleeue
               nothing
               ,
               vnlesse
               they
               shew
               them
               at
               what
               time
               ,
               &
               how
               that
               is
               come
               to
               passe
               ,
               and
               who
               busies
               thēselues
               in
               searching
               the
               causes
               &
               the
               beginnings
               .
               we
               know
               ,
               that
               already
               in
               the
               daies
               of
               the
               Apostles
               ,
               the
               mystery
               of
               iniquity
               began
               to
               work
               
               it selfe
               ,
               which
               S.
               Paul
               foretold
               ,
               that
               after
               his
               departure
               ,
               there
               should
               enter
               rauenous
               wolues
               among
               the
               flocks
               ;
               &
               in
               that
               night
               ,
               after
               the
               husbandman
               had
               sowne
               the
               
               good
               seed
               ,
               behold
               ,
               the
               enemy
               also
               did
               sow
               the
               Tares
               .
               
            
             
               The
               Antichrist
               was
               not
               begotten
               in
               one
               day
               .
               This
               Beare
               was
               not
               so
               soone
               licked
               ,
               and
               put
               in
               form
               ,
               as
               he
               of
               whom
               speaks
               Surius
               &
               the
               Cardinall
               Baronius
               ,
               who
               of
               a
               wilde
               beast
               ,
               became
               a
               reasonable
               creature
               ,
               made
               himself
               also
               Frier
               in
               that
               same
               instant
               ,
               after
               he
               had
               prostrated
               himselfe
               before
               the
               relikes
               of
               a
               certaine
               Lady
               ,
               and
               hauing
               beside
               entertayned
               the
               Nunnes
               of
               the
               Couent
               .
               The
               Romance
               Beare
               ought
               to
               be
               some
               other
               thing
               beside
               ,
               then
               a
               simple
               shorne
               Munke
               .
            
             
               Your
               second
               demaund
               is
               touching
               the
               4.
               first
               general
               
               Councils
               ,
               to
               wit
               ,
               
                 If
                 we
                 hold
                 for
                 certaine
                 ,
                 that
                 which
                 was
                 there
                 treated
                 and
                 resolued
                 ?
              
               I
               answer
               ,
               that
               those
               points
               cōcerne
               either
               the
               doctrine
               ,
               or
               policy
               of
               the
               Church
               :
               those
               then
               be
               collected
               in
               the
               Symboles
               ,
               composed
               in
               the
               said
               Councils
               ,
               and
               wee
               hold
               them
               for
               true
               ,
               so
               farre
               as
               they
               are
               agreeing
               to
               the
               holy
               Scriptures
               .
               In
               this
               here
               we
               will
               vse
               the
               liberty
               which
               Bellarmine
               takes
               ,
               after
               the
               maner
               of
               Pope
               Gelasus
               ,
               saying
               ,
               That
               in
               the
               Councill
               of
               
               Calcedon
               ,
               there
               is
               something
               good
               ,
               &
               something
               euil
               ,
               and
               that
               wee
               may
               receiue
               the
               one
               ,
               &
               refuse
               the
               other
               :
               and
               in
               another
               place
               he
               dispenseth
               with
               himselfe
               ,
               to
               reproue
               in
               the
               same
               maner
               the
               Council
               of
               Constantinople
               ,
               for
               hauing
               attempted
               somewhat
               ,
               that
               did
               not
               please
               the
               Church
               of
               Rome
               .
               Behold
               then
               ,
               how
               he
               handles
               these
               two
               of
               the
               first
               4.
               generall
               Councils
               :
               for
               the
               rest
               iudge
               ,
               if
               ye
               please
               ,
               which
               is
               most
               reasonable
               ,
               to
               submit
               themselues
               to
               the
               Coūcils
               ,
               because
               the
               Pope
               doth
               approue
               them
               ,
               who
               maintaines
               himselfe
               to
               be
               aboue
               thē
               ;
               or
               because
               the
               Councils
               haue
               submitted
               themselues
               to
               the
               word
               of
               GOD
               ;
               the
               one
               ,
               which
               is
               taught
               in
               the
               Church
               of
               Rome
               ;
               the
               other
               ,
               in
               our
               Church
               .
            
             
             
               The
               third
               question
               is
               ,
               
                 Concerning
                 the
                 sending
                 of
                 the
                 Ministers
                 ,
                 
                 if
                 it
                 be
                 necessarie
                 for
                 them
                 ,
                 and
                 of
                 whom
              
               Caluin
               
                 had
                 it
              
               ?
               I
               answer
               ,
               that
               it
               is
               necessary
               ;
               and
               that
               Caluin
               had
               it
               of
               the
               Church
               of
               Geneua
               ,
               &
               of
               Farel
               his
               predecessor
               ,
               who
               had
               also
               his
               of
               the
               people
               of
               Geneua
               ,
               who
               had
               right
               and
               authority
               to
               institute
               &
               depose
               Ministers
               :
               for
               so
               declareth
               S.
               Ciprian
               ,
               saying
               ,
               that
               the
               people
               obeying
               to
               the
               
               commaundements
               of
               God
               ,
               should
               separate
               themselues
               from
               a
               wicked
               guide
               ,
               and
               not
               to
               meddle
               with
               the
               sacrifices
               of
               any
               sacrilegious
               Priest
               ,
               cōsidering
               that
               the
               said
               people
               haue
               chiefe
               authority
               to
               make
               choyce
               of
               worthy
               persons
               ,
               &
               to
               reiect
               the
               vnworthy
               .
               This
               was
               so
               practised
               by
               the
               people
               of
               Geneua
               ,
               and
               in
               diuers
               other
               parts
               of
               Europe
               ,
               where
               in
               these
               latter
               times
               they
               did
               forsake
               those
               sacrilegious
               Priests
               ,
               and
               sacrifices
               of
               the
               Pope
               ,
               for
               to
               establish
               faithful
               Ministers
               &
               proclaimers
               of
               the
               gospel
               .
               And
               to
               be
               short
               ,
               the
               reformed
               Churches
               had
               their
               calling
               &
               sending
               ,
               partly
               from
               God
               ,
               and
               partly
               frō
               their
               people
               ,
               and
               partly
               from
               the
               Church
               of
               Rome
               :
               from
               God
               ,
               as
               the
               chiefe
               cause
               ;
               from
               the
               people
               ,
               as
               by
               lawful
               instrument
               .
               frō
               the
               Church
               of
               Rome
               ,
               as
               by
               a
               corrupt
               instrument
               .
               God
               gaue
               the
               essence
               ,
               and
               the
               forme
               interiour
               to
               this
               sending
               :
               the
               reformed
               Church
               gaue
               the
               testimonies
               &
               approbations
               ,
               and
               the
               exteriour
               forme
               :
               the
               Church
               of
               Rome
               hath
               added
               thereto
               ,
               abuses
               and
               corruptions
               ,
               which
               our
               succeeding
               Ministers
               haue
               renounced
               .
            
             
               The
               fourth
               question
               is
               touching
               the
               interpretation
               
               and
               vnderstanding
               of
               the
               Scriptures
               ,
               to
               wit
               ,
               
                 If
                 euery
                 one
                 be
                 capable
                 of
                 the
                 vnderstanding
                 of
                 it
                 ,
                 interpreting
                 it
                 by
                 it selfe
                 ?
              
            
             
               I
               answere
               ,
               that
               if
               by
               this
               capacity
               ,
               ye
               meane
               a
               natural
               faculty
               of
               man
               ,
               &
               by
               the
               vnderstanding
               ,
               a
               knowledge
               
               to
               saluation
               :
               so
               far
               off
               is
               it
               that
               euery
               one
               is
               capable
               to
               the
               vnderstāding
               therof
               ,
               or
               to
               purchase
               this
               intelligence
               by
               his
               study
               &
               trauels
               :
               but
               rather
               herein
               all
               be
               naturally
               blind
               and
               foolish
               ;
               and
               it
               is
               necessarily
               requisit
               ,
               that
               which
               our
               Sauiour
               Christ
               did
               to
               his
               Apostles
               ,
               opening
               their
               vnderstandings
               to
               conceaue
               the
               Scriptures
               ,
               should
               be
               done
               to
               all
               them
               ,
               which
               desire
               to
               vnderstand
               them
               wholsomely
               :
               for
               as
               the
               bodily
               light
               cannot
               be
               receiued
               ,
               but
               by
               eyes
               corporall
               ,
               that
               be
               open
               ;
               euen
               so
               ,
               the
               spiritual
               light
               of
               the
               Scriptures
               cannot
               be
               seene
               ,
               but
               by
               the
               spiritual
               eyes
               of
               faith
               ,
               which
               God
               opens
               to
               his
               own
               elect
               ,
               in
               giuing
               them
               so
               much
               thereof
               ,
               as
               is
               necessary
               for
               them
               to
               saluation
               :
               in
               doing
               whereof
               ,
               he
               works
               oftentimes
               by
               degrees
               ,
               as
               he
               did
               with
               the
               blind
               man
               ,
               spoken
               of
               in
               the
               Gospel
               ,
               whom
               he
               lightned
               by
               little
               .
               Whosoeuer
               
               be
               the
               meanest
               of
               the
               world
               ,
               vnderstand
               these
               passages
               ,
               which
               defend
               the
               bowing
               downe
               before
               Images
               :
               who
               commaund
               to
               giue
               the
               cuppe
               of
               the
               Lord
               to
               all
               :
               which
               beare
               also
               ,
               that
               this
               is
               the
               docttine
               of
               deuils
               ,
               for
               to
               forbid
               mariage
               ,
               and
               the
               vse
               of
               certain
               meats
               ,
               &c.
               
               The
               Gospel
               is
               not
               hid
               but
               to
               those
               who
               perish
               ,
               and
               whom
               the
               God
               of
               this
               world
               hath
               blinded
               .
               This
               
               sayes
               S.
               Paul.
               
            
             
               The
               fift
               demaund
               is
               ,
               touching
               the
               confuting
               of
               heresies
               ,
               to
               wit
               ,
               
                 If
                 that
                 we
                 hold
                 them
                 not
                 for
                 well
                 and
                 iustly
              
               
               confuted
               .
               I
               answere
               ,
               that
               these
               heresies
               refuted
               by
               the
               word
               of
               God
               ,
               or
               as
               S.
               Athanasius
               saith
               ,
               stoned
               by
               arguments
               taken
               out
               of
               the
               holy
               Scripture
               ,
               are
               well
               &
               iustly
               conuinced
               :
               for
               this
               is
               one
               of
               the
               vses
               ,
               wherefore
               it
               was
               giuen
               by
               heauenly
               inspiration
               ;
               neither
               hold
               we
               that
               for
               refuted
               or
               ouercome
               ,
               which
               is
               onely
               done
               by
               the
               witnesses
               of
               man
               ,
               and
               by
               the
               authority
               of
               the
               Pope
               ,
               who
               
               doth
               not
               condemne
               heresies
               ,
               but
               in
               seeming
               to
               bee
               an
               enemy
               to
               them
               ,
               to
               the
               end
               the
               better
               he
               may
               establish
               his
               owne
               :
               as
               did
               Zophyrus
               ,
               that
               by
               such
               slights
               wonne
               Babylon
               .
               The
               most
               ordinary
               and
               common
               argument
               of
               the
               Pope
               ,
               for
               to
               refute
               heresies
               ,
               is
               by
               the
               fagot
               ,
               &
               the
               hand
               of
               the
               hangman
               ,
               according
               to
               the
               Logick
               of
               the
               Inquisition
               of
               Spayne
               ,
               and
               the
               practise
               of
               the
               Iesuites
               ,
               their
               Apostles
               in
               the
               New
               found
               world
               ,
               against
               the
               poore
               Pagans
               ;
               notwithstanding
               that
               the
               scholasticke
               diuines
               maintaine
               ,
               that
               the
               Infideis
               ought
               not
               in
               any
               
               case
               to
               beforced
               to
               receiue
               the
               faith
               ;
               yea
               ,
               not
               after
               ye
               haue
               ouercome
               them
               in
               warre
               ,
               and
               made
               them
               slaues
               .
               But
               in
               this
               there
               appeares
               to
               vs
               yet
               one
               of
               the
               conformities
               of
               the
               pretended
               Vicar
               of
               Iesus
               Christ
               ,
               with
               his
               master
               the
               cōmission
               which
               the
               one
               giues
               to
               his
               Apostles
               ,
               beares
               this
               ;
               
                 Go
                 ye
                 ,
                 teach
                 all
                 nations
                 ,
                 &c.
                 
              
               That
               which
               
               the
               other
               giues
               to
               his
               ,
               is
               ,
               
                 Go
                 kill
                 ,
                 massacre
                 ,
                 poyson
                 all
                 people
                 ,
                 who
                 will
                 not
                 obey
                 me
                 .
              
            
             
               Now
               followes
               the
               sixt
               question
               ,
               
                 Of
                 the
                 authority
                 of
              
               
               
                 the
                 Fathers
              
               .
               The
               opinion
               of
               the
               Church
               of
               Rome
               is
               diuers
               vpon
               this
               poynt
               .
               There
               be
               that
               hold
               ,
               that
               all
               the
               writings
               of
               the
               Fathers
               be
               true
               and
               authenticke
               ,
               and
               it
               behoueth
               to
               maintayne
               all
               their
               opinions
               to
               be
               true
               ,
               euen
               
               to
               the
               last
               iote
               .
               This
               is
               it
               which
               the
               glosse
               sayes
               vp
               on
               the
               decree
               authenticke
               in
               the
               Church
               of
               Rome
               ,
               without
               teaching
               of
               vs
               ,
               how
               we
               may
               obserue
               this
               ordinance
               ,
               when
               the
               opinions
               of
               the
               Fathers
               bee
               contrary
               one
               to
               another
               .
               The
               more
               modest
               &
               best
               aduised
               saies
               ,
               they
               should
               be
               esteemed
               for
               Historians
               ,
               and
               witnesses
               of
               matters
               of
               their
               time
               .
               We
               say
               ,
               that
               in
               regard
               of
               the
               questions
               of
               right
               ,
               that
               bee
               in
               controuersy
               ,
               the
               Fathers
               
               haue
               bene
               ,
               and
               should
               be
               esteemed
               for
               disciples
               of
               the
               trueth
               ,
               and
               not
               for
               Masters
               ,
               knowing
               in
               a
               part
               ,
               
               and
               prophesying
               in
               a
               part
               ,
               and
               that
               they
               haue
               not
               comprehended
               the
               whole
               trueth
               ,
               but
               only
               according
               to
               the
               measure
               of
               the
               grace
               of
               Iesus
               Christ
               :
               we
               esteem
               them
               for
               Instruments
               of
               God
               ,
               where
               they
               haue
               spoken
               the
               
               truth
               ;
               but
               where
               they
               haue
               a
               little
               erred
               ,
               in
               going
               out
               of
               the
               right
               way
               ,
               we
               cease
               not
               neuerthelesse
               to
               hold
               them
               for
               the
               children
               of
               God
               ,
               beleeuing
               that
               the
               heauenly
               Father
               hath
               couered
               their
               infirmities
               :
               neither
               doe
               wee
               despise
               the
               faire
               haruest
               of
               learning
               ,
               that
               aboundeth
               in
               their
               writings
               ,
               for
               certain
               cares
               of
               cockle
               ,
               which
               are
               mingled
               with
               them
               :
               but
               we
               do
               hate
               those
               ,
               who
               gather
               nothing
               but
               the
               Cockle
               and
               their
               errors
               ,
               who
               defile
               and
               corrupt
               ,
               as
               much
               as
               they
               may
               ,
               by
               their
               
                 Index
                 expurgatorius
              
               ,
               the
               good
               grayne
               ,
               which
               is
               there
               ,
               who
               preferre
               their
               Briers
               to
               their
               Roses
               ,
               and
               in
               stead
               of
               concealing
               their
               owne
               shame
               ,
               kissed
               it
               ,
               and
               caused
               it
               to
               be
               reuerenced
               by
               the
               people
               .
               As
               for
               their
               testimonies
               in
               questiōs
               concerning
               the
               matter
               of
               fact
               ,
               we
               accept
               them
               in
               things
               of
               their
               times
               ,
               &
               that
               be
               of
               their
               knowledge
               ,
               especially
               when
               it
               is
               well
               grounded
               and
               assured
               :
               for
               it
               shal
               be
               proued
               ,
               that
               they
               haue
               mistaken
               thēselues
               both
               in
               the
               one
               and
               in
               the
               other
               ;
               and
               there
               is
               none
               ,
               except
               the
               Prophets
               and
               the
               Apostles
               ,
               to
               whom
               ,
               by
               a
               speciall
               prerogatiue
               ,
               pertaineth
               the
               condition
               of
               witnesse
               without
               reproof
               ,
               
               and
               free
               of
               exception
               .
               Otherwise
               ,
               the
               writings
               of
               the
               Fathers
               ,
               at
               least
               ,
               those
               who
               write
               the
               History
               of
               their
               times
               ,
               should
               be
               equal
               to
               the
               Canonicall
               Scriptures
               .
               I
               report
               me
               herein
               to
               the
               testimony
               of
               that
               great
               Cardinall
               
               Baronius
               ,
               hauing
               spoken
               in
               one
               place
               ,
               that
               the
               Catholike
               Church
               falles
               not
               at
               all
               times
               ,
               nor
               in
               al
               things
               :
               yea
               ,
               the
               holyest
               Fathers
               thēselues
               say
               in
               another
               place
               ,
               that
               the
               Acts
               of
               the
               Apostles
               written
               by
               S.
               Luke
               ,
               merit
               
               more
               faith
               ,
               then
               any
               authority
               of
               the
               Ancients
               ;
               and
               in
               another
               place
               ,
               that
               which
               the
               most
               true
               &
               sincerest
               writers
               haue
               reported
               of
               the
               Apostles
               ,
               hath
               not
               remained
               in
               her
               owne
               integrity
               ,
               without
               corruption
               .
            
             
               As
               touching
               
                 The
                 Inuocation
                 of
                 Saints
              
               ,
               your
               seuenth
               question
               :
               I
               answere
               ,
               It
               should
               bee
               reiected
               in
               regard
               of
               both
               the
               two
               reasons
               alledged
               by
               your selfe
               ;
               to
               wit
               ,
               as
               well
               ,
               because
               it
               is
               sacriledge
               against
               God
               ,
               as
               also
               ,
               vnprofitable
               for
               vs
               :
               for
               to
               see
               ,
               heare
               ,
               vnderstand
               ,
               receiue
               ,
               &
               to
               heare
               the
               requests
               of
               all
               apart
               ,
               al
               at
               one
               time
               ,
               and
               in
               all
               times
               ;
               this
               is
               a
               propriety
               belonging
               onely
               to
               God
               ,
               and
               his
               Sonne
               Iesus
               Christ
               ,
               from
               whom
               they
               steale
               his
               honor
               ,
               &
               make
               the
               Saints
               to
               vsurpe
               his
               office
               ,
               when
               one
               S.
               Iames
               ,
               another
               S.
               Clowd
               ,
               is
               called
               vpon
               in
               one
               same
               time
               ,
               in
               a
               thousand
               places
               ,
               from
               the
               East
               to
               the
               West
               ,
               of
               a
               million
               of
               persons
               ,
               for
               thousand
               and
               thousands
               of
               diuers
               things
               :
               also
               ,
               when
               they
               beleeue
               that
               the
               Saints
               can
               vnderstand
               ,
               &
               are
               sufficient
               to
               satisfie
               &
               content
               euery
               one
               .
               And
               by
               this
               you
               may
               perceiue
               the
               abuses
               of
               the
               Iesuites
               ,
               who
               perswade
               you
               ,
               seeing
               it
               is
               permitted
               to
               aske
               the
               help
               of
               the
               liuing
               ,
               that
               it
               cannot
               bee
               prohibited
               to
               call
               vpon
               the
               dead
               also
               ,
               of
               whome
               wee
               haue
               as
               little
               certainty
               that
               they
               can
               heare
               vs
               ,
               as
               of
               commaundement
               that
               we
               should
               reclayme
               them
               .
            
             
               Your
               last
               question
               ,
               is
               ,
               
                 Of
                 the
                 circumscription
                 of
                 the
                 body
                 .
              
               To
               which
               I
               answere
               ,
               that
               euery
               true
               body
               is
               circumscribed
               ;
               and
               to
               be
               a
               body
               and
               not
               to
               be
               circumscribed
               ,
               that
               is
               to
               say
               ,
               limitted
               and
               bounded
               ,
               imports
               contradiction
               :
               for
               if
               the
               dimensions
               be
               essentials
               to
               a
               body
               ;
               and
               if
               it
               be
               necessary
               ,
               that
               the
               dimensions
               be
               terminable
               ,
               which
               was
               neuer
               yet
               denyed
               ,
               it
               followes
               then
               of
               necessity
               ,
               that
               it
               is
               bounded
               and
               circumscribed
               :
               and
               if
               
               this
               necessity
               accompanieth
               all
               bodies
               in
               generall
               ,
               how
               much
               more
               ,
               a
               humane
               body
               ,
               or
               body
               of
               man
               ,
               which
               is
               not
               Mathematicall
               ,
               neither
               composed
               only
               of
               matter
               and
               of
               forme
               ;
               but
               which
               is
               organick
               ,
               composed
               of
               vnlike
               parts
               &
               of
               diuers
               kinds
               ?
               of
               which
               then
               followes
               ,
               that
               those
               that
               take
               from
               him
               the
               circumscriptiō
               ,
               to
               the
               end
               ,
               to
               lodge
               him
               in
               one
               time
               &
               instāt
               in
               diners
               places
               :
               and
               insted
               to
               amplify
               the
               power
               of
               God
               ,
               destroyes
               therby
               both
               his
               verity
               &
               wisdome
               ,
               his
               might
               and
               his
               Godhead
               altogether
               :
               His
               verity
               ,
               in
               so
               much
               as
               hee
               should
               haue
               in
               him
               ,
               yea
               &
               no
               :
               if
               that
               he
               might
               say
               of
               one selfe
               same
               body
               ,
               that
               he
               is
               circumscribed
               ,
               &
               not
               circumscribed
               ;
               one
               ,
               and
               none
               ;
               organick
               ,
               and
               not
               organick
               :
               His
               wisedome
               ,
               because
               there
               would
               be
               disorder
               and
               confusion
               in
               his
               works
               :
               his
               power
               ,
               because
               it
               should
               haue
               imperfection
               ,
               to
               wit
               ,
               a
               humane
               body
               ,
               not
               hauing
               that
               ,
               
               which
               made
               her
               to
               be
               so
               .
               To
               conclude
               his
               Godhead
               ,
               because
               the
               creature
               finite
               should
               be
               equal
               to
               the
               Creator
               ,
               who
               is
               only
               infinite
               ;
               by
               the
               which
               argument
               ,
               the
               Ancients
               foresaw
               the
               Deity
               of
               the
               holy
               Ghost
               :
               but
               if
               they
               will
               say
               ,
               that
               the
               place
               is
               not
               of
               the
               essence
               of
               the
               body
               ,
               &
               consequently
               ,
               that
               the
               one
               may
               be
               without
               the
               other
               :
               it
               must
               be
               demaunded
               ,
               if
               the
               time
               is
               not
               as
               well
               out
               of
               the
               essence
               of
               the
               body
               ,
               as
               a
               body
               may
               bee
               then
               without
               time
               ?
               Conclude
               so
               ,
               should
               not
               this
               be
               without
               time
               &
               without
               sence
               :
               if
               they
               reply
               again
               ,
               that
               the
               heauen
               ,
               although
               a
               true
               body
               ,
               yet
               it
               is
               not
               contayned
               by
               any
               place
               ,
               that
               inuirons
               it
               without
               .
               The
               answere
               is
               ,
               that
               for
               all
               that
               it
               is
               not
               exēpt
               of
               circumscription
               ,
               being
               circūscribed
               by
               the
               limits
               of
               her
               proper
               greatnes
               ,
               &
               forme
               inseparable
               frō
               it
               :
               and
               euen
               so
               ,
               the
               bodies
               of
               the
               faithfull
               ,
               that
               while
               they
               shal
               be
               transported
               aboue
               the
               heauens
               ,
               
               which
               we
               see
               shal
               not
               be
               without
               their
               circūscriptions
               ,
               although
               it
               be
               that
               an
               other
               body
               compasse
               them
               bout
               ,
               as
               the
               ayre
               doth
               vs
               below
               ,
               or
               that
               it
               be
               that
               nothing
               compasse
               vs.
               I
               beleeue
               ye
               haue
               oftentimes
               heard
               this
               sentence
               of
               S.
               
                 Austen
                 ,
                 Take
                 away
                 the
                 roome
                 from
                 a
                 body
                 ,
              
               
               
                 and
                 there
                 shal
                 be
                 then
                 no
                 part
                 at
                 all
                 in
                 them
                 .
              
               We
               say
               with
               the
               said
               Father
               ,
               that
               this
               circumscription
               agreeth
               with
               the
               body
               of
               our
               Lord
               ,
               who
               is
               aboue
               clothed
               with
               heauenly
               glory
               ,
               yet
               not
               spoyled
               of
               his
               humane
               nature
               ;
               neither
               can
               we
               read
               without
               horzor
               ,
               that
               which
               the
               Pope
               commaunds
               to
               be
               beleeued
               in
               this
               poynt
               ,
               to
               wit
               ,
               That
               
               
                 he
                 is
                 handled
                 by
                 the
                 hands
                 of
                 the
                 Priests
                 ,
                 torne
                 and
                 broken
                 by
                 the
                 teeth
                 of
                 the
                 faithful
                 ,
                 sensually
                 and
                 carnally
                 :
              
               Termes
               and
               speeches
               according
               to
               the
               Romane
               Church
               ,
               must
               be
               taken
               precizely
               :
               for
               as
               Bellarmine
               teacheth
               vs
               ,
               there
               is
               no
               
               forme
               in
               speaking
               in
               the
               matter
               of
               faith
               more
               exact
               ,
               thē
               that
               which
               they
               vse
               ,
               who
               abiure
               an
               heresy
               :
               wherof
               followes
               ,
               that
               this
               maner
               of
               speaking
               by
               Pope
               Nicholas
               to
               Berengare
               ,
               for
               the
               abiuring
               of
               his
               pretended
               Heresy
               ,
               admits
               not
               the
               glosse
               adioyned
               to
               the
               margent
               ;
               that
               is
               to
               say
               ,
               whosoeuer
               should
               take
               these
               tearmes
               by
               the
               meaning
               of
               the
               letter
               ,
               should
               fall
               in
               heresie
               ,
               worse
               then
               that
               of
               Barengarius
               .
               But
               what
               is
               this
               ?
               sayes
               not
               your
               pretended
               teachers
               ,
               with
               a
               high
               &
               cleare
               voyce
               ,
               
                 That
                 the
                 glorious
                 bodie
                 of
                 our
                 Lord
                 may
                 be
                 eatē
                 by
                 a
                 mouse
                 ,
                 deuoured
                 by
                 a
                 dog
                 .
                 Then
                 behold
                 ,
                 I
                 pray
                 you
                 ,
                 how
                 they
                 circumscribe
                 it
                 ,
                 inuironing
                 &
                 bounding
                 it
                 in
                 the
                 intrailes
                 of
                 a
                 filthie
                 beast
                 ,
                 which
                 is
                 the
                 place
                 and
                 the
                 lodging
                 ,
                 which
                 these
                 honest
                 Harbengers
                 assigne
                 vnto
                 him
                 .
              
               Behold
               ,
               there
               is
               the
               faire
               Hellen
               of
               their
               doctrine
               ,
               with
               whom
               they
               would
               make
               you
               inamored
               ;
               shall
               you
               then
               receiue
               for
               principles
               of
               fayth
               ,
               the
               barking
               of
               such
               Cerbres
               ?
            
             
             
               You
               haue
               here
               my
               answers
               vnto
               your
               8.
               demaunds
               ,
               which
               you
               shall
               find
               more
               cleare
               then
               subtil
               ,
               more
               gentle
               then
               ingenious
               ,
               more
               necessary
               then
               tedious
               :
               and
               if
               the
               desire
               of
               learning
               be
               as
               wel
               grauen
               in
               your
               heart
               ,
               as
               it
               is
               represented
               in
               your
               letter
               ,
               as
               a
               charitable
               Christian
               ,
               I
               wil
               beleeue
               you
               ,
               not
               withstanding
               the
               assurance
               of
               your
               friends
               &
               seruants
               ,
               who
               in
               all
               parts
               publish
               &
               lament
               your
               reuolt
               wholly
               resolued
               on
               .
               I
               shall
               be
               very
               glad
               ,
               that
               this
               written
               answere
               to
               your
               letter
               ,
               may
               be
               communicated
               to
               those
               ,
               whom
               ye
               esteem
               most
               capable
               for
               the
               examination
               thereof
               .
               I
               am
               not
               ignorant
               of
               their
               ordinary
               replies
               .
               Also
               I
               know
               for
               the
               ouerthrowing
               of
               them
               ,
               it
               shal
               suffice
               to
               apply
               therunto
               ,
               the
               conclusions
               ,
               which
               may
               be
               drawne
               from
               the
               principals
               ,
               set
               downe
               by
               me
               :
               and
               to
               do
               them
               a
               little
               ,
               &
               a
               little
               by
               degrees
               ,
               it
               would
               exceed
               the
               bounds
               of
               a
               letter
               ,
               and
               your
               owne
               ordinance
               and
               desire
               :
               but
               if
               there
               rests
               yet
               any
               doubt
               on
               these
               poynts
               ,
               or
               others
               ;
               &
               that
               the
               assurance
               which
               ye
               haue
               of
               my
               particular
               affection
               to
               your
               seruice
               ,
               and
               to
               your
               saluation
               ,
               may
               make
               you
               desire
               the
               true
               light
               ,
               rather
               by
               my
               pen
               ,
               thē
               by
               the
               mouth
               of
               some
               other
               more
               neere
               vnto
               you
               :
               I
               shall
               esteem
               it
               for
               singular
               great
               honour
               ,
               the
               commaundement
               which
               it
               shall
               please
               you
               to
               giue
               me
               :
               for
               to
               God
               it
               is
               not
               acceptable
               ,
               that
               I
               should
               esteeme
               that
               voyage
               of
               Rome
               ,
               or
               the
               aire
               of
               the
               Court
               ,
               or
               the
               vayne
               hope
               of
               I
               wot
               not
               what
               ,
               to
               haue
               so
               changed
               that
               naturall
               inclination
               ,
               which
               I
               was
               wont
               in
               some
               other
               time
               heretofore
               to
               marke
               in
               you
               ,
               that
               ye
               would
               enter
               into
               into
               a
               new
               Religiō
               ,
               trauersing
               amids
               these
               mists
               of
               vncertain
               doubts
               &
               irresolutions
               ,
               without
               any
               assurance
               in
               your
               spirit
               ,
               of
               any
               receiued
               knowledge
               ,
               with
               these
               remorses
               of
               conscience
               in
               your
               
               heart
               ,
               with
               a
               brain
               ful
               of
               doubts
               ,
               which
               you
               say
               ,
               to
               haue
               growne
               in
               you
               ,
               euen
               while
               ye
               were
               writing
               vnto
               me
               .
               Herein
               you
               would
               resemble
               the
               sunne
               in
               March
               ,
               which
               remoues
               the
               humours
               ,
               without
               bringing
               force
               to
               resolue
               them
               :
               or
               to
               do
               as
               those
               ,
               whom
               curiosity
               makes
               to
               taste
               of
               a
               drug
               vnknowne
               ,
               the
               effect
               whereof
               cannot
               be
               knowne
               but
               by
               their
               death
               .
               No
               ,
               no
               ,
               I
               cannot
               beleeue
               it
               ;
               I
               know
               what
               a
               poore
               Pagan
               hath
               heretofore
               taught
               
               you
               ,
               that
               it
               behooueth
               neuer
               to
               vndertake
               any
               thing
               ,
               which
               is
               doubted
               to
               be
               iust
               ,
               because
               that
               Iustice
               shines
               of
               her selfe
               by
               the
               contrary
               ;
               all
               doubts
               shew
               that
               therin
               is
               euill
               :
               how
               much
               lesse
               then
               ,
               those
               that
               haue
               bene
               learned
               in
               a
               better
               schoole
               ,
               that
               whatsoeuer
               is
               done
               without
               
               fayth
               ,
               is
               sinne
               ?
               and
               would
               they
               resolue
               themselues
               without
               this
               certainty
               to
               alteration
               ,
               where
               they
               goe
               either
               to
               life
               ,
               or
               to
               death
               eternall
               ,
               if
               they
               haue
               any
               remainder
               ,
               I
               wil
               not
               say
               of
               godlines
               and
               Religion
               ,
               but
               of
               honor
               &
               courage
               ?
               And
               heereupon
               I
               pray
               the
               Father
               of
               light
               ,
               who
               illuminates
               the
               blynd
               ,
               who
               ,
               whē
               he
               pleaseth
               ,
               
               rayses
               the
               dead
               ,
               although
               they
               were
               dead
               foure
               dayes
               ,
               to
               open
               your
               eyes
               ,
               to
               discerne
               well
               that
               Pearle
               ,
               which
               they
               would
               bereaue
               you
               of
               ,
               with
               the
               false
               and
               counterfeit
               drosse
               which
               they
               offer
               to
               you
               in
               exchāge
               ,
               to
               open
               and
               perce
               your
               eares
               ,
               that
               you
               might
               discerne
               the
               voyce
               of
               the
               Shepherd
               ,
               from
               the
               howling
               of
               the
               Wolfe
               ,
               and
               to
               touch
               your
               heart
               ,
               for
               to
               arrest
               and
               stay
               you
               rather
               with
               his
               Sonne
               ,
               who
               hath
               giuen
               his
               life
               for
               you
               ,
               than
               to
               the
               sonne
               of
               perdition
               ,
               who
               hath
               pursued
               the
               corporall
               death
               of
               your
               Predecessours
               ,
               and
               now
               agayne
               conspireth
               and
               lyeth
               in
               wayte
               ,
               by
               all
               the
               subtill
               practises
               and
               deuices
               hee
               can
               ,
               for
               the
               spirituall
               death
               of
               your
               soule
               .
            
             
             
               Surely
               ,
               this
               is
               our
               honour
               and
               profit
               ,
               and
               not
               that
               of
               Gods
               ,
               when
               as
               he
               speaketh
               to
               vs
               ,
               our
               shame
               &
               damage
               ,
               not
               his
               ,
               when
               as
               we
               disdaine
               to
               heare
               him
               ,
               he
               can
               better
               passe
               our
               shame
               ,
               then
               we
               can
               his
               grace
               .
               But
               aduise
               we
               ourselues
               ,
               lest
               our
               cōtempt
               of
               his
               mercy
               kindle
               the
               iust
               wrath
               of
               his
               anger
               making
               himselfe
               to
               be
               felt
               ,
               by
               afflicting
               those
               ,
               who
               in
               his
               speaking
               to
               them
               ,
               reiected
               him
               .
               
                 I
                 cannot
                 thinke
                 without
                 amazing
              
               (
               sayth
               the
               Prophet
               Dauid
               )
               
               
                 of
                 the
                 righteous
                 iudgemēt
                 ,
                 which
                 thou
                 shalt
                 cause
                 ,
                 &
                 the
                 great
                 feare
                 ,
                 wherewith
                 all
                 my
                 bodie
                 trembles
                 as
                 it
                 were
                 .
              
               These
               be
               the
               verses
               which
               your
               father
               (
               now
               departed
               )
               of
               good
               memory
               ,
               had
               oftentimes
               in
               his
               mouth
               ,
               whē
               as
               he
               heard
               speaking
               of
               such
               reuolting
               from
               the
               Religion
               ,
               as
               master
               Merlin
               your
               late
               master
               told
               me
               .
               God
               graunt
               ,
               that
               the
               remembrance
               of
               his
               death
               may
               helpe
               your
               life
               ,
               in
               following
               that
               same
               verse
               ,
               which
               this
               Psalme
               recommendeth
               to
               vs.
               I
               beseech
               you
               excuse
               my
               boldnesse
               ,
               and
               lay
               the
               reason
               on
               your
               owne
               goodnes
               ,
               who
               hath
               giuen
               it
               to
               him
               ,
               who
               fearing
               lest
               abusing
               of
               it
               in
               a
               danger
               so
               perilous
               ,
               should
               be
               construed
               a
               kind
               of
               treason
               ,
               not
               only
               by
               your
               faithfull
               seruants
               ,
               and
               true
               friends
               ,
               but
               also
               by
               your self
               one
               day
               ,
               when
               the
               truth
               ,
               now
               smoothered
               in
               your
               spirit
               by
               the
               deceiuings
               of
               Sophisters
               ,
               shall
               rayse
               it selfe
               ,
               and
               according
               to
               his
               nature
               ,
               shall
               obtayne
               to
               swim
               aboue
               falshood
               &
               vntruth
               .
               This
               shall
               be
               at
               that
               time
               ,
               when
               as
               appealing
               from
               your selfe
               ,
               to
               your selfe
               ,
               I
               remit
               &
               promise
               to
               my selfe
               ,
               the
               right
               vnderstanding
               of
               the
               publike
               cause
               ,
               with
               an
               acknowledgement
               of
               my
               particular
               zeale
               ,
               and
               so
               haue
               bene
               ,
               and
               with
               a
               will
               to
               remayne
            
             
               
                 Your
                 most
                 humble
                 ;
                 and
                 most
                 faithfull
                 seruant
                 ,
                 D.
                 TILENVS
                 .
              
            
          
        
      
       
         
         
           The
           second
           letter
           of
           the
           Earle
           of
           
             Lauall
             ,
             to
             his
             master
             D.
             Tilenus
             .
          
        
         
           
             
               SIR
               ,
               I
               thinke
               my selfe
               very
               much
               bound
               to
               you
               ,
               in
               that
               you
               haue
               taken
               the
               paynes
               and
               the
               care
               ,
               to
               answere
               to
               the
               poynts
               ,
               wherein
               I
               craued
               some
               light
               .
               You
               say
               to
               the
               first
               ,
               which
               is
               of
               the
               purity
               of
               the
               church
               ,
               that
               incontinent
               after
               the
               death
               of
               the
               Apostles
               ,
               that
               it
               was
               corrupted
               :
               And
               Caluin
               referres
               himselfe
               to
               the
               
               ancient
               Church
               of
               S.
               Basil
               ,
               S.
               Ambrose
               ,
               S.
               Chrisostome
               ,
               and
               S.
               Austen
               .
               This
               is
               in
               his
               booke
               of
               Institutions
               ,
               and
               Lord
               
                 Du
                 Plessis
              
               affirmes
               the
               first
               eyght
               hundred
               yeres
               ,
               who
               was
               the
               first
               that
               gaue
               mee
               the
               occasion
               ,
               to
               read
               the
               History
               of
               that
               age
               .
               In
               another
               poynt
               ,
               touching
               the
               sending
               of
               the
               Ministers
               ,
               you
               say
               that
               Farrel
               had
               it
               frō
               the
               people
               :
               it
               behoueth
               then
               ,
               that
               eyther
               the
               people
               there
               were
               Catholiks
               ,
               or
               that
               they
               were
               instructed
               in
               the
               religion
               by
               some
               Doctor
               ;
               &
               by
               consequence
               it
               is
               necessary
               ,
               that
               a
               Doctor
               of
               the
               Religion
               proceeded
               the
               people
               of
               the
               Religion
               ,
               &
               so
               without
               any
               sending
               or
               calling
               vnles
               it
               was
               extraordinary
               ,
               or
               else
               from
               the
               Church
               of
               Rome
               .
               You
               alledge
               a
               passage
               of
               S.
               Ciprian
               ,
               who
               sayes
               ,
               the
               people
               obedient
               to
               Gods
               Commaundement
               ,
               should
               seperate
               thēselues
               from
               a
               wicked
               guide
               ,
               &
               not
               to
               meddle
               with
               a
               sacrilegious
               Priest
               .
               If
               ye
               receiue
               after
               that
               meaning
               ,
               where
               he
               saies
               that
               the
               people
               may
               discharge
               their
               guide
               ,
               that
               is
               to
               say
               ,
               a
               Pastor
               :
               wherefore
               also
               receiue
               ye
               him
               not
               in
               that
               which
               he
               saies
               ,
               that
               the
               Priest
               sacrifices
               ,
               &
               that
               shewes
               at
               least
               ,
               that
               this
               was
               holdē
               certayn
               in
               those
               dayes
               .
               Finally
               ,
               for
               what
               defect
               or
               errour
               was
               it
               of
               the
               reformed
               Church
               ,
               that
               it
               behooueth
               ,
               
               that
               her
               pastors
               should
               haue
               their
               sending
               (
               as
               you
               say
               )
               in
               a
               part
               from
               the
               Church
               of
               Rome
               ,
               as
               from
               an
               instrument
               corrupt
               ?
               This
               is
               to
               do
               ,
               as
               the
               Church
               of
               the
               Husseits
               in
               Germany
               ,
               whereof
               all
               the
               Doctors
               for
               the
               most
               part
               ,
               had
               their
               order
               of
               Priesthood
               from
               the
               Church
               of
               Rome
               ,
               fayning
               to
               be
               thereof
               ,
               at
               the
               least
               ,
               as
               I
               heard
               it
               ,
               of
               the
               greatest
               part
               of
               their
               owne
               country
               people
               :
               but
               whether
               that
               bee
               or
               not
               ,
               it
               imports
               not
               much
               .
               Beside
               this
               ,
               I
               demaund
               you
               ,
               the
               way
               of
               saluation
               being
               in
               all
               ages
               open
               ,
               and
               our
               Sauiour
               Christ
               hauing
               suffered
               for
               al
               them
               ,
               who
               should
               apply
               vnto
               themselues
               the
               merit
               of
               his
               death
               ,
               what
               doctrine
               ,
               I
               pray
               ye
               ,
               held
               they
               that
               were
               the
               faithfull
               ,
               three
               or
               foure
               hundred
               yeres
               since
               ?
               And
               if
               you
               had
               beene
               in
               that
               time
               there
               ,
               in
               what
               Vessell
               had
               you
               put
               your selfe
               ,
               to
               haue
               arriued
               to
               the
               port
               of
               safety
               ?
               Touching
               the
               Testimony
               of
               the
               Fathers
               ,
               you
               say
               ,
               you
               accept
               of
               them
               ,
               vpon
               the
               questions
               of
               the
               fact
               of
               the
               things
               done
               in
               their
               time
               .
               Saint
               Austin
               sayth
               ,
               that
               he
               caused
               the
               Masse
               to
               be
               celebrated
               .
               This
               is
               a
               question
               of
               fact
               ,
               and
               a
               thing
               done
               in
               his
               time
               .
            
             
               I
               abuse
               your
               patience
               ,
               in
               detayning
               you
               so
               long
               ,
               to
               read
               nothing
               that
               is
               worth
               your
               paynes
               ,
               and
               I
               demaūd
               you
               no
               farther
               ,
               but
               to
               assure
               you
               ,
               that
               I
               am
               more
               then
               any
               person
            
             
               
                 Your
                 most
                 affectionate
                 and
                 bound
                 Disciple
                 to
                 doe
                 you
                 seruice
                 ,
                 LAVALL
                 .
              
            
          
        
      
       
         
         
           The
           second
           answere
           ,
           of
           the
           second
           letter
           ,
           
             written
             by
             Telenus
             to
             the
             Earle
          
           of
           Lauall
           .
        
         
           
             
               SIr
               ,
               I
               perceiue
               by
               that
               which
               it
               pleased
               you
               to
               write
               to
               me
               by
               the
               Gentleman
               coming
               to
               this
               place
               ,
               that
               with
               my
               answere
               vpon
               your
               honest
               demaundes
               ,
               yee
               are
               satisfied
               with
               that
               which
               I
               haue
               spoken
               cōcerning
               fiue
               of
               them
               ,
               to
               wit
               ,
               
               
                 Of
                 the
                 authoritie
                 of
                 the
                 foure
                 generall
                 Councells
                 :
                 the
                 interpretation
                 of
                 the
                 holie
                 Scriptures
                 :
                 
                 the
                 the
                 refutation
                 of
                 Heresies
                 .
                 
                 The
                 inuocation
                 of
                 Saintes
                 ,
                 
                 the
                 circumscription
                 of
                 Bodies
                 :
              
               
               The
               doubtes
               which
               remaine
               ,
               be
               concerning
               these
               three
               ,
               
               
                 Of
                 the
                 puritie
                 of
                 the
                 Church
                 .
                 
                 The
                 sending
                 of
                 the
                 ministrie
                 .
                 
                 Of
                 the
                 authoritie
                 of
                 the
                 Fatherst
                 .
              
               Touching
               the
               first
               ,
               yee
               pretend
               contradiction
               ,
               as
               appeareth
               in
               that
               which
               I
               haue
               spoken
               ,
               that
               the
               purity
               of
               the
               Church
               did
               not
               continue
               ,
               but
               for
               the
               time
               of
               the
               Apostles
               ,
               and
               whereas
               Caluin
               enlargeth
               it
               to
               continue
               three
               hundreth
               ,
               and
               
                 Lord
                 du
                 Plessis
              
               to
               eight
               hundreth
               yeeres
               .
               I
               answere
               ,
               if
               so
               be
               that
               ye
               consider
               rightly
               of
               my
               letter
               :
               ye
               shall
               finde
               it
               is
               not
               I
               that
               pronounce
               the
               sentence
               ,
               but
               Egesippus
               and
               after
               him
               ,
               Eusebius
               and
               Nicephorus
               :
               and
               that
               my
               intention
               is
               to
               put
               that
               sentence
               in
               your
               hands
               ,
               only
               to
               close
               the
               mouths
               of
               those
               who
               estourdissis
               &
               deaffes
               you
               with
               their
               sturre
               of
               the
               Fathers
               :
               But
               for
               the
               chief
               poinct
               of
               the
               question
               ,
               &
               for
               your
               instruction
               ,
               I
               haue
               answered
               ,
               altogether
               otherwise
               ,
               and
               largelie
               enough
               ,
               to
               the
               which
               ye
               replie
               nothing
               at
               all
               ,
               the
               substance
               of
               my
               answere
               is
               ,
               that
               the
               Church
               militant
               hath
               retained
               euen
               to
               our
               time
               without
               interruption
               ,
               the
               measure
               of
               puritie
               which
               the
               holie
               Ghost
               hath
               giuen
               her
               :
               But
               to
               haue
               reserued
               this
               
               purenesse
               ,
               it
               followeth
               not
               ,
               that
               she
               hath
               conserued
               nothing
               which
               is
               not
               pure
               :
               or
               that
               the
               inuentions
               of
               men
               ,
               or
               the
               ordinances
               of
               the
               Popes
               doe
               make
               parte
               of
               the
               puritie
               ,
               no
               more
               thē
               Hydropsie
               makes
               part
               of
               the
               health
               of
               a
               mans
               bodie
               ,
               although
               it
               be
               therein
               contained
               and
               inclosed
               .
               Euen
               as
               the
               health
               of
               mannes
               bodie
               consisteth
               not
               in
               a
               poinct
               indiuisible
               ,
               also
               neither
               maketh
               the
               puritie
               of
               the
               mysticall
               bodie
               of
               the
               Churche
               militante
               ,
               and
               compassed
               with
               her
               infirmities
               ,
               as
               well
               the
               faith
               as
               in
               the
               life
               ;
               &
               as
               they
               call
               a
               man
               whole
               ,
               who
               neuertheles
               is
               not
               without
               some
               euill
               humours
               in
               his
               bodie
               ,
               comparing
               him
               to
               a
               sicke
               patient
               ,
               fast
               tyed
               to
               the
               bed
               ,
               and
               consumed
               with
               the
               pocks
               .
               So
               doe
               wee
               call
               the
               Church
               ,
               that
               was
               nerest
               to
               the
               Apostles
               pure
               ,
               in
               regard
               of
               the
               ages
               following
               ,
               in
               the
               which
               the
               mysterie
               of
               iniquitie
               was
               conuerted
               in
               the
               ministrie
               ,
               or
               rather
               into
               the
               kingdome
               of
               wickednes
               and
               Idolatrie
               ,
               the
               one
               and
               the
               other
               is
               a
               noysome
               humour
               in
               the
               bodie
               of
               the
               Churche
               ,
               but
               the
               one
               is
               in
               secret
               ,
               and
               the
               other
               in
               publike
               ,
               the
               one
               in
               seede
               ,
               and
               the
               other
               springing
               vp
               ,
               the
               one
               in
               the
               parts
               indifferents
               ,
               the
               other
               in
               the
               noble
               partes
               :
               the
               one
               a
               scabbe
               ,
               the
               other
               a
               spreading
               cancre
               ,
               the
               one
               proceeding
               for
               lacke
               of
               knowledge
               ,
               in
               those
               who
               were
               come
               from
               heathē
               custome
               ,
               the
               other
               in
               lacke
               of
               conscience
               in
               them
               ,
               who
               would
               from
               Christianisme
               ,
               bring
               vs
               to
               Paganisme
               ,
               Epicurisme
               and
               Atheisme
               .
            
             
               Touching
               that
               which
               I
               haue
               answered
               to
               your
               demaund
               ,
               concerning
               the
               calling
               of
               the
               ministerie
               ,
               and
               especially
               of
               Farrell
               ,
               who
               had
               it
               of
               the
               people
               ,
               sufficientlie
               authorized
               to
               geue
               him
               the
               same
               ,
               according
               to
               the
               testimonie
               of
               
                 S.
                 Cyprian
              
               .
               You
               answere
               two
               things
               First
               ,
               that
               it
               is
               necessary
               that
               a
               Doctour
               of
               the
               religion
               
               
               go
               before
               a
               people
               of
               the
               religion
               ,
               for
               to
               teache
               them
               .
               2.
               the
               second
               that
               by
               the
               testimonie
               which
               I
               alledge
               ,
               forth
               of
               the
               said
               Father
               ,
               it
               apeareth
               ,
               that
               in
               those
               times
               the
               Priests
               sacrificed
               .
               To
               the
               first
               poinct
               I
               answere
               fower
               things
               .
               First
               that
               in
               which
               you
               say
               that
               it
               ought
               to
               be
               done
               ,
               it
               is
               done
               when
               the
               order
               is
               in
               his
               entier
               :
               But
               that
               in
               a
               generall
               disorder
               and
               confusion
               ,
               such
               as
               was
               the
               Popish
               in
               the
               time
               of
               the
               reformation
               ,
               all
               the
               formalities
               of
               order
               ,
               should
               no
               more
               be
               required
               ,
               then
               they
               may
               be
               obserued
               .
            
             
               Secondly
               that
               the
               Doctors
               sent
               by
               God
               ought
               not
               
               at
               all
               times
               to
               acknowledge
               the
               cornet
               cappes
               ,
               the
               forket
               mi●res
               ,
               neither
               their
               triple
               crowns
               .
               And
               that
               those
               that
               first
               reuealed
               the
               byrth
               of
               Iesus
               Christ
               ,
               was
               neyther●Priest
               of
               the
               law
               ,
               neither
               pastors
               of
               the
               Churche
               ,
               but
               Pastors
               and
               shepheards
               of
               the
               field
               :
               So
               the
               Hereticks
               Origenists
               were
               discouered
               ,
               and
               refuted
               by
               a
               woman
               ,
               while
               as
               the
               Pope
               of
               Rome
               ,
               the
               pretended
               head
               
               of
               the
               Churche
               was
               sleeping
               as
               Baronius
               him self
               confesseth
               :
               God
               seruing
               himself
               somtimes
               of
               instruments
               very
               contemptible
               to
               effect
               his
               work
               ,
               in
               confounding
               his
               enemies
               ,
               by
               the
               goade
               of
               an
               oxe
               ,
               in
               the
               hād
               of
               Samgar
               ,
               by
               an
               hammer
               in
               the
               hand
               of
               Iahell
               :
               by
               the
               chaftblade
               of
               an
               asse
               in
               the
               hand
               of
               Sampson
               ,
               by
               a
               stone
               ,
               in
               the
               hand
               of
               Dauid
               ,
               against
               Golyah
               .
            
             
               Thirdly
               ,
               such
               like
               proceedings
               hath
               bene
               before
               times
               approoued
               ,
               euen
               before
               the
               destruction
               of
               order
               ,
               
               to
               wit
               in
               Edesius
               &
               Frumentius
               ,
               preaching
               the
               Euangile
               to
               the
               Indians
               ,
               without
               being
               sent
               or
               called
               :
               also
               in
               a
               poore
               woman
               a
               slaue
               ,
               who
               planted
               the
               same
               in
               the
               kingdome
               of
               the
               Iberians
               .
            
             
               Fourthly
               ,
               that
               by
               the
               propre
               confessiion
               of
               diuers
               
               and
               many
               Doctors
               of
               the
               Romaine
               Church
               ,
               yea
               euen
               
               Cardinalls
               ,
               disorder
               was
               verie
               great
               and
               extreame
               in
               the
               said
               Church
               ,
               and
               that
               shee
               had
               neede
               of
               reformation
               ,
               as
               well
               in
               the
               head
               as
               in
               the
               members
               ,
               as
               well
               in
               the
               Faith
               as
               in
               the
               maners
               .
               Beholde
               in
               the
               Frier
               Onuphrius
               this
               notable
               apothegme
               of
               Pope
               Adrian
               4.
               repeated
               &
               confirmed
               by
               the
               pope
               Marcell
               .
               That
               ther
               is
               
               no
               meane
               to
               be
               Pope
               ,
               &
               to
               work
               his
               saluation
               :
               shall
               we
               beleeue
               that
               he
               who
               cannot
               make
               his
               owne
               ,
               hath
               anie
               care
               of
               ours
               ,
               and
               of
               that
               of
               the
               whole
               Church
               .
            
             
               As
               touching
               that
               where
               ye
               say
               that
               it
               is
               a
               great
               fault
               to
               the
               reformed
               Church
               that
               it
               behooueth
               that
               hir
               Pastors
               had
               her
               sending
               in
               a
               parte
               from
               the
               Churche
               of
               Rome
               ,
               as
               from
               a
               corrupt
               instrument
               :
               I
               answere
               ,
               that
               my
               letter
               beareth
               not
               ,
               that
               it
               is
               necessary
               of
               right
               ;
               but
               that
               this
               was
               found
               wanting
               in
               our
               first
               pastors
               :
               this
               was
               not
               any
               want
               ,
               but
               to
               acknowledge
               the
               fault
               to
               amend
               it
               ,
               our
               chiefe
               perfection
               consisting
               to
               acknowledge
               &
               to
               correct
               our
               imperfectiōs
               ,
               seing
               we
               be
               neither
               Anabaptists
               who
               acknowledge
               not
               the
               Churche
               ,
               where
               there
               is
               a
               great
               &
               notable
               want
               in
               maners
               ,
               neither
               Papist
               ,
               who
               maintaineth
               that
               their
               Church
               cannot
               erre
               in
               the
               faith
               ,
               an
               error
               ,
               or
               rather
               a
               receptacle
               ,
               couertour
               &
               goulf
               of
               al
               the
               errors
               of
               the
               world
               ,
               which
               carry
               away
               with
               it
               not
               only
               the
               feeling
               of
               the
               disease
               ,
               but
               also
               the
               hope
               of
               their
               healing
               .
               He
               that
               furnished
               to
               you
               this
               point
               ,
               should
               consider
               ,
               that
               in
               throwing
               it
               against
               the
               Church
               reformed
               ,
               he
               might
               verie
               well
               retorqueted
               against
               the
               Romane
               church
               ,
               in
               the
               which
               we
               finde
               the
               Popes
               thēselues
               to
               haue
               bene
               made
               by
               instrumēts
               very
               corrupt
               :
               &
               among
               others
               the
               Pope
               Simmachus
               was
               cōfirmed
               by
               King
               Theodorick
               who
               was
               an
               Arrian
               ,
               
               leauing
               to
               speake
               of
               those
               that
               were
               rather
               monsters
               then
               Byshops
               or
               men
               ,
               hath
               giuen
               the
               sending
               or
               calling
               
               to
               the
               whole
               race
               of
               their
               Hierarchie
               .
               And
               as
               cōcerning
               the
               feminine
               Papesse
               Iane
               ,
               ye
               haue
               learned
               in
               your
               voyage
               that
               in
               Rome
               ,
               they
               holde
               not
               the
               whores
               there
               for
               corrupt
               instruments
               ,
               &
               by
               the
               testimony
               of
               Cardinal
               Bellarmine
               ,
               the
               magistrates
               sin
               not
               ,
               in
               assignīg
               
               to
               them
               to
               haue
               a
               quarter
               within
               the
               Cittie
               ,
               for
               theyr
               dwelling
               ,
               albeit
               he
               knowe
               perfectly
               that
               they
               would
               abuse
               it
               to
               an
               euill
               purpose
               .
            
             
               The
               Clergie
               of
               the
               holy
               citie
               ,
               not
               being
               so
               superstitious
               as
               were
               they
               of
               Grece
               ,
               in
               the
               time
               of
               
                 Theodorus
                 Studites
              
               ,
               who
               said
               that
               it
               was
               a
               dāgerous
               thing
               for
               the
               soul
               of
               a
               Frier
               to
               haue
               but
               one
               beast
               of
               the
               feminine
               kinde
               .
            
             
               And
               to
               the
               second
               point
               of
               your
               Reply
               ,
               I
               say
               ,
               that
               wee
               avowe
               that
               there
               was
               sacrifices
               in
               the
               time
               of
               S.
               Cyprian
               &
               that
               there
               shall
               be
               sacrifices
               to
               the
               consummation
               of
               the
               world
               .
               But
               yet
               that
               concludes
               no
               thing
               for
               the
               Sacrifice
               of
               the
               Masse
               ,
               pretended
               reall
               ,
               propitiatorie
               for
               the
               liuing
               and
               for
               the
               dead
               ,
               for
               their
               sinnes
               paines
               ,
               and
               satisfactions
               :
               good
               to
               coniure
               stormes
               ,
               to
               heale
               diseases
               ,
               to
               winne
               Battels
               ,
               to
               purge
               the
               great
               crimes
               to
               draw
               the
               soules
               out
               of
               purgatorie
               ,
               to
               finde
               things
               lost
               ,
               &c.
               
               The
               word
               sacrifice
               is
               taken
               sometime
               for
               the
               whole
               office
               and
               diuine
               seruice
               :
               Saint
               Paul
               saith
               ,
               that
               he
               sacrificed
               the
               Gospel
               .
               And
               he
               called
               
               sacrifice
               the
               faith
               of
               the
               faithfull
               ,
               also
               their
               prayers
               to
               God
               ,
               their
               almes
               for
               the
               poore
               ,
               their
               collecting
               for
               the
               Ministerie
               ,
               the
               offerings
               that
               were
               made
               to
               the
               holie
               assemblies
               ,
               and
               from
               whence
               they
               tooke
               the
               Euchariste
               ,
               was
               called
               Sacrifices
               :
               &
               this
               is
               one
               of
               the
               occasions
               ,
               for
               the
               which
               the
               name
               was
               attributed
               to
               the
               holy
               Supper
               .
               The
               same
               answere
               may
               serue
               to
               your
               last
               Reply
               .
               As
               touching
               that
               which
               I
               spake
               of
               the
               testimonie
               of
               the
               Fathers
               :
               whereon
               you
               conclude
               ,
               
               seing
               that
               I
               accept
               then
               on
               the
               questiōs
               of
               fact
               in
               matters
               of
               their
               time
               ,
               I
               ought
               thē
               accept
               the
               Masse
               ,
               which
               S.
               August
               .
               witnesseth
               to
               haue
               caused
               to
               be
               celebrated
               in
               his
               time
               ,
               I
               say
               that
               the
               same
               equiuocation
               which
               is
               in
               the
               word
               of
               sacrifice
               ,
               is
               in
               the
               word
               of
               Messe
               :
               albeit
               the
               vsage
               of
               this
               heere
               ,
               is
               farre
               more
               new
               in
               the
               Christian
               Church
               ,
               then
               that
               was
               of
               theirs
               .
               In
               diuers
               Fathers
               ,
               it
               is
               not
               found
               at
               all
               ,
               &
               onely
               but
               touched
               in
               S.
               Augustine
               ,
               &
               that
               but
               in
               a
               writtē
               work
               which
               the
               most
               learned
               holdeth
               to
               be
               counterfeit
               :
               &
               that
               alwayes
               in
               a
               farre
               different
               signification
               than
               it
               is
               taken
               for
               nowe
               adayes
               .
               I
               counsell
               you
               to
               take
               it
               into
               that
               same
               sence
               which
               S.
               Augustine
               doth
               ,
               by
               the
               proper
               confession
               of
               of
               Bellarmine
               ,
               (
               that
               is
               )
               Promissione
               for
               one
               dismissing
               ,
               and
               that
               you
               giue
               one
               fare
               well
               to
               the
               Masse
               ,
               which
               is
               called
               in
               Lattine
               ,
               
                 Missam
                 facere
                 missam
              
               .
            
             
               
                 Touching
                 that
                 newe
                 question
                 ,
                 which
                 you
                 make
                 in
                 your
                 letter
                 :
                 to
                 wit
                 ,
                 seeing
                 that
                 the
                 way
                 to
                 saluation
                 hath
                 beene
                 open
                 in
                 all
                 Ages
                 :
                 to
                 all
                 those
                 who
                 will
                 apply
                 vnto
                 them
                 the
                 mirrit
                 of
                 the
                 death
                 of
                 our
                 Lord.
                 What
                 doctrine
                 (
                 I
                 pray
                 you
                 )
                 professed
                 they
                 who
                 were
                 of
                 the
                 choosen
                 number
                 ,
                 three
                 or
                 foure
                 hundred
                 yeeres
                 since
                 :
                 and
                 if
                 I
                 had
                 beene
                 in
                 those
                 dayes
                 ,
                 in
                 what
                 vessell
                 should
                 I
                 haue
                 cast
                 mee
                 into
                 ,
                 for
                 comming
                 to
                 the
                 port
                 of
                 saluation
                 .
              
            
             
               I
               answere
               that
               the
               great
               Doctor
               of
               the
               Elect
               in
               all
               Ages
               ,
               is
               the
               holy
               Spirit
               :
               for
               they
               are
               taught
               of
               God
               ,
               
               as
               witnessed
               
                 Iesus
                 Christ
              
               :
               and
               all
               their
               doctrine
               in
               all
               times
               is
               that
               of
               the
               olde
               and
               newe
               Testament
               :
               which
               neither
               Sathan
               ,
               neither
               his
               Vicar
               the
               Antichrist
               ,
               could
               euer
               destroy
               .
            
             
               Of
               this
               doctrine
               ,
               God
               hath
               alwaies
               reuealed
               as
               much
               as
               was
               necessary
               for
               thē
               to
               saluatiō
               ;
               whether
               they
               did
               read
               by
               themselues
               ,
               or
               that
               they
               vnderstood
               it
               by
               others
               :
               
               you
               haue
               an
               notable
               example
               in
               the
               Historie
               of
               S.
               Barnard
               ,
               who
               being
               a
               little
               while
               before
               the
               time
               which
               you
               set
               downe
               perceiuing
               the
               corruptions
               of
               
               his
               time
               ,
               at
               the
               very
               houre
               of
               his
               death
               (
               rempted
               by
               Sathan
               )
               he
               clensed
               himselfe
               of
               that
               filthinesse
               ,
               confessing
               that
               he
               could
               not
               obtaine
               saluation
               by
               his
               merits
               ,
               (
               which
               was
               the
               doctrine
               publiquely
               taught
               in
               the
               Schooles
               at
               that
               time
               )
               neither
               pretending
               it
               but
               by
               grace
               :
               declaring
               that
               our
               Sauiour
               possesseth
               it
               by
               a
               a
               double
               right
               ,
               by
               the
               inheritage
               of
               the
               Father
               :
               and
               by
               the
               merit
               of
               his
               Passion
               ,
               and
               that
               contenting
               himselfe
               with
               the
               one
               ,
               he
               gaue
               him
               the
               other
               ,
               if
               you
               desire
               a
               more
               particular
               clearing
               of
               this
               question
               ;
               see
               the
               Book
               of
               the
               Cathologue
               of
               the
               witnesses
               of
               the
               troth
               ,
               and
               you
               shall
               finde
               that
               there
               hath
               beene
               no
               age
               so
               darke
               ,
               wherin
               the
               troth
               hath
               not
               spread
               some
               beames
               amids
               the
               smoakes
               which
               arise
               out
               of
               the
               bottomles
               pit
               of
               Rome
               :
               And
               if
               God
               had
               giuen
               me
               life
               in
               those
               times
               ,
               I
               beleeue
               assuredly
               ,
               that
               he
               would
               haue
               giuen
               me
               the
               grace
               ,
               either
               to
               abstaine
               from
               this
               Papisticall
               poyson
               ;
               or
               to
               vomite
               it
               vp
               in
               time
               ,
               preseruing
               me
               frō
               this
               infection
               :
               as
               hee
               preserued
               his
               children
               from
               the
               fire
               of
               the
               Babylonian
               Furnace
               .
               In
               briefe
               ,
               I
               would
               haue
               done
               that
               ,
               which
               afterwards
               I
               did
               in
               Spaine
               ,
               and
               at
               Rome
               ,
               and
               that
               which
               I
               wish
               you
               had
               performed
               in
               the
               same
               place
               ,
               by
               the
               example
               of
               some
               of
               your
               followers
               ,
               making
               their
               prayers
               ,
               and
               exercises
               of
               godlinesse
               in
               priuate
               ,
               without
               defiling
               themselues
               with
               idolatrie
               ,
               which
               is
               committed
               in
               publique
               :
               &
               to
               goe
               out
               of
               this
               Babylon
               in
               heart
               ,
               though
               they
               found
               them
               as
               touching
               the
               body
               ,
               there
               engaged
               .
               The
               totall
               summe
               is
               :
               to
               saile
               in
               the
               sea
               of
               this
               world
               which
               is
               visible
               ,
               and
               materiall
               is
               required
               a
               ship
               visible
               and
               materiall
               :
               
               but
               to
               arriue
               at
               the
               hauen
               of
               saluation
               ,
               as
               this
               port
               is
               spirituall
               ,
               &
               in
               no
               wise
               of
               this
               world
               :
               so
               many
               enter
               there
               without
               materiall
               and
               visible
               vessell
               :
               that
               is
               ,
               without
               being
               locally
               ,
               and
               corporally
               in
               any
               certaine
               materiall
               Temple
               ,
               or
               visible
               Church
               .
               And
               this
               I
               maintaine
               is
               happened
               to
               many
               ,
               during
               this
               great
               and
               generall
               reuolt
               ,
               vnder
               the
               tyrannie
               of
               Antichrist
               ,
               foretold
               in
               the
               Scripture
               ;
               which
               like
               a
               long
               and
               furious
               tempest
               hath
               rent
               and
               strangely
               disfigured
               the
               ship
               of
               the
               visible
               Church
               ,
               by
               the
               wines
               and
               waues
               of
               humaine
               inuentions
               which
               haue
               made
               many
               both
               Pilots
               ,
               and
               passengers
               ,
               for
               to
               loose
               the
               Loadstarre
               of
               Gods
               ordinances
               .
            
             
               But
               suffer
               mee
               I
               (
               pray
               you
               )
               Sir
               ,
               to
               aske
               you
               ,
               to
               what
               port
               ,
               or
               hauen
               you
               pretend
               to
               attaine
               in
               this
               ship
               of
               neutralitie
               ,
               in
               which
               you
               stay
               so
               long
               in
               the
               roade
               ,
               betweene
               the
               two
               barques
               of
               Preaching
               ,
               &
               the
               Masse
               ,
               And
               if
               he
               ,
               who
               iudgeth
               men
               such
               as
               he
               findeth
               them
               ,
               calling
               you
               vnexpectly
               to
               appeare
               before
               his
               throne
               ,
               finde
               you
               thus
               disposed
               ,
               what
               sentence
               would
               you
               hope
               from
               his
               mouth
               .
               I
               beseech
               him
               with
               al
               my
               heart
               ,
               to
               cause
               you
               to
               thinke
               vpon
               it
               ,
               and
               so
               to
               prepare
               and
               direct
               you
               ,
               rather
               by
               change
               of
               life
               ,
               then
               Religion
               .
               In
               the
               meane
               time
               ,
               I
               rest
               :
            
             
               
                 SIR
                 ,
              
               
                 Your
                 most
                 humble
                 and
                 affectionate
                 Seruitour
                 :
                 D.
                 TILENVS
                 .
              
            
             
               FINIS
               .
            
             
          
        
      
    
     
       
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           Notes for div A13774-e430
           
             Lib.
             9.
             cap.
             5●
             .
          
           
             Dist
             .
             3.
             
             C.
             4.
             
             Is
             qui
             non
             habet
             Caus
             .
             12.
             q.
             1.
             c.
             dilectissionis
             .
          
           
             Act.
             19.
             19.
             
          
        
         
           Notes for div A13774-e770
           
             2.
             
             Cor.
             11.
             
          
           
             Ephes
             .
             4.
             7.
             
          
           
             Heb.
             18.
             38.
             
             Apoc.
             12.
             14.
             
             Math.
             2.
             13.
             
          
           
             Bellar.
             li.
             3.
             cap.
             2.
             de
             eccl
             .
          
           
             Annal.
             tom
             .
             6.
             an
             .
             484.
             
             §.
             4.
             &
             tom
             .
             7
             an
             .
             530.
             
             §.
             5.
             
          
           
             2.
             
             Thes
             .
             27.
             
             Acts.
             20.
             2●
             
          
           
             Mat.
             13.
             25.
             
             Sur.
             tom
             .
             1.
             die
             8.
             
             Ian.
             Bar.
             Tom.
             9.
             
             Anno.
             805.
             
             §.
             3.
             
          
           
             2
             
          
           
             Conc.
             Chal.
             de
             Laicis
             cap.
             20.
             
             Praef.
             in
             lib.
             de
             Pontif.
             
          
           
             3
             
          
           
             Lib.
             1.
             
             Epist
             .
             4.
             
          
           
             4
             
          
           
             Mark.
             8.
             24.
             
          
           
             2.
             
             Cor.
             4.
             5.
             
          
           
             5
             Orat.
             2.
             in
             Arrianos
             .
             2.
             
             Tom.
             3.
             6.
             
          
           
             The
             21.
             9
             
             O
             art
             .
             8.
             
          
           
             Mat.
             28.
             
          
           
             6
             
          
           
             D●ft
             9.
             
             C.
             uoli
             meis
             .
          
           
             1
             Cor.
             13
             9.
             
          
           
             Ephe.
             4.
             7.
             
          
           
             Luk.
             24.
             48.
             
             Act.
             1.
             8
             
          
           
             Annal.
             tom
             .
             1.
             an
             .
             34.
             
             An.
             39.
             
             §.
             22.
             
          
           
             Didy
             .
             de
             Spirit
             .
             S.
             Virgil.
             cont
             .
             Sabel
             .
             &c.
             
          
           
             August
             .
             ad
             Dard.
             
          
           
             De
             consocrat
             .
             dist
             .
             2.
             
             C.
             ego
             Bereng
             .
          
           
             Bellar.
             de
             Imag.
             l.
             2
             cap.
             22.
             
          
           
             Cic
             1.
             
             Off.
             
          
           
             Rom.
             14.
             13.
             
          
           
             Ioh.
             11.
             29.
             
             Mat.
             13.
             46.
             
          
           
             Psa
             .
             119
             
          
        
         
           Notes for div A13774-e2030
           
             Cal.
             lib.
             4
             sect
             .
             3.
             
          
        
         
           Notes for div A13774-e2220
           
             1
             
          
           
             2
             
          
           
             3
             
          
           
             4
             
          
           
             5
             
          
           
             1
             
          
           
             2
             
          
           
             3
             
          
           
             1
             
          
           
             2
             
          
           
             Tom.
             5.
             an
             .
             399.
             s
             .
             19.
             20.
             
          
           
             3
             Theodor.
             lib.
             16.
             23.
             
             &
             24.
             
          
           
             4
             
          
           
             Oauph
             .
             In
             vita
             marcil
             :
             lib.
             2.
             non
             video
             q̄uōmodo
             quolocum
             hunc
             altissimūtonent
             slu●ri
             possunt
             .
             I
             see
             not
             how
             those
             which
             hold
             this
             high
             place
             can
             be
             safe
             .
          
           
             Theod.
             le
             .
             ior
             .
             lib.
             3.
             
          
           
             Bell.
             de
             a
             miss
             .
             in
             grat
             .
             &
             statum
             pro
             2.
             18.
             
             Beron
             ,
             tom
             .
             9.
             
             Ang.
             26.
             &
             verse
             54.
             
          
           
             Rom.
             15.
             
             Philips
             3.
             
          
           
             Iohn
             6.
             ver
             .
             11.
             
          
           
             In
             the
             life
             of
             S.
             Barnard
             neere
             the
             mids
             therof
             .