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A35728) Transcribed from: (Early English Books Online ; image set 93918) Images scanned from microfilm: (Early English books, 1641-1700 ; 253:E156, no 23) A consideration and a resolvtion first concerning the right of the laity in nationall councels : secondly concerning the power of bishops in affaires secular : prepared for the honourable House of Parliament / by Sr. E.D. ... Dering, Edward, Sir, 1598-1644. 32 p. Printed for F. Eglesfeild, London : 1641. Attributed to Edward Dering. Cf. BLC. Reproduction of original in Thomason Collection, British Library. eng Bishops -- Temporal power. A35728 R4300 (Wing D1106). civilwar no A consideration and a resolution. First, concerning the right of the laity in nationall councels. Secondly, concerning the power of bishops Dering, Edward, Sir 1641 7749 5 355 0 0 0 0 465 F The rate of 465 defects per 10,000 words puts this text in the F category of texts with 100 or more defects per 10,000 words. 2003-12 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2003-12 Aptara Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2004-12 Mona Logarbo Sampled and proofread 2004-12 Mona Logarbo Text and markup reviewed and edited 2005-01 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion A CONSIDERATION AND A RESOLVTION . FIRST , Concerning the right of the Laity in Nationall Councels . SECONDLY , Concerning the power of Bishops in affaires secular . Prepared for the Honourable House of PARLIAMENT . By Sr. E. D. Kt. and Baronet . A CONSIDERATION VPON THE LATE CANONS . THat the late Canons are invalidous , it will easily appeare , and that they are so originally in the foundation , or rather in the founders of them , I will assume upon my selfe to demonstrate , having first intimated my sence by way of preparative . The Pope ( as they say ) hath a triple Crowne , answerable thereunto , and to support that , hee pretends to have a threefold Law . The first is , jus divinum , Episcopacie by divine right ; and this hee would have you thinke to be the Coronet next his head , that which doth circle and secure his power . Our Bishops have ( in an unlucky time ) entred their plea and pretended title to this Crowne , Episcopacy by divine right . The second is Ius humanum , Constantin's donation , the gift of indulgent Princes ; Temporal power . This Law belongs to his second , or his middle Crowne ; already also pleaded for by our Prelates in print . These two Crownes being obtained , he ( the Pope ) doth frame and make his third Crowne himselfe , and setts that upmost , upon the toppe — This Crowne also hath its Law , and that is Ius Canonicum , the Canon law , of more use unto his Popeship then both the other — Iust so our Prelates from the pretended divinity of their Episcopacy , and from the temporall power granted by our Princes they would now obtrude a new Canon-Law upon us . They have charged their Canons at us to the full , and never fearing that ever they would recoyle backe into a Parliament they have rammed a prodigious ungodly oath into them . The illegality and invalidity of these Canons ( as I conceive ) is easily discoverable by one short question , viz. what doe you call the meeting wherein they were made ? give it a name to know it by : who can frame his argument aright unlesse hee can first tell against what hee is to argue ? would you confute the Convocation ? they were a holy Synod ? would you argue against the Synod ? why they were Commissioners , would you dispute the Commission ? they will mingle all powers together , and answer that they were some fourth thing , that we neither know nor imagine . Quo teneam nodo mutantem Protea ? unlesse they will unriddle thēselves , & owne what they were , we may prosecute , but hardly with concludent arguments . Yet I venture . I have conferred with some of the founders of these new Canons , but I professe clearely , that I could never yet meete with any one of that assembly , who could ( in behalfe of their meeting ) well answer me the first question in the Catechisme , what is your name ? Alas , they are parted before they know what they were when they were together . The summe of the severall answers , that I have received , doth amount to this . They were a Convocationall — Synodicall — assembly of Commissioners , indeede a threefold Chimaera , a monster to our Lawes , a Cerberus to our Religion . A strange Commission wherein no one Commissioners name is to bee found . A strange Convocation that lived when the Parliament was dead : A strange holy Synod where one part never saw , never confirred with the other . — But indeede what use or need of conference , if that bee true of these Canons , which I reade of the former ones , Notum est Canones formari Lambethae , priusquàm in Synodo ventilentur ? Thus farre preparatory . I proceede to my argument , whereby to manifest the invalidity of these Canons , not borrowing but avoiding what have formerly beene instanced by others . I will neither inveigh upon them as unnamed Commissioners , nor infirme them as the worke of a dead Convocation ; But will take them in the capacity of their owne affected title of a Synod . Such they bragged themselves to bee whilest they sate : Such they stile themselves in the Title-page of these ( never to be Canonized ) Canons — The words are — Canons treated upon in Convocation — agreed upon in Synod . Thus treating in one capacity and agreeing in another : is a new mould to cast Canons in never used before . Canons bredde , in a Convocation , borne in a Synod . Thus although wee finde not one good father , here are yet two mothers to one illfavored child ; never knowne before , nor imagined but of Bacchus , whom the Poet calls among other attributes — Solúmque bimatrem . I proceede , if their meeting be a Synod , eyther it is so by Donation , by Election , or onely by Vsurpation . Donation from the King , is this title and authority , indulged to them by his Majestie : Looke through all his highnesse Letters Patents , and they are not once saluted with the ambitious title of a Synod . Yet in the Canons they have assumed it seventeen times , it is their owne pride , their owne presumption . The King hath not done it , ( pardon me ) no Prince ever did it or can doe it ; no power Regall , Imperiall , or Papall did ever attempt it , to ordaine that William , & Richard , Mathew and Iohn , &c. and I know not who more , being met and assembled upon other summons shall by a Commission be on a sudden translated from what they were , into an unthought-of nationall Synod , without voyce or choyse of any man to bee concerned : this never was done , this never can be well done . As for due election for such meetings , this indeede is or ought to bee of the true esse to a Legitimate Synod . But due election made up by voyces is so much a stranger to this Synod , that their fatherhoods will confesse that they were never trusted to this Synod , as a Synod by any , either of the Clergy or of the Laity . Concerning the choise of a few of them , and but a few ( about 50. as I guesse ) chosen to the Convocation house , that will never render them a lawfull Synod , untill they can prove metamorphosis and Transubstantiation . — For the votes of all their chusers upon expiration of the Convocation house returned backe home to every mans bosome from whence they breathed . So that if you will en-live the same men to bee now Synodall , who were before but Convocationall , you must renew the old Pythagorean Transmigration , for they want the breath and life of an election . A new one you have not , and the old one is not to be had but by {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} . Besides I do affirme & shall approve , that the electors to a Convocation and to a Synod are not all one . The Clergie only doe , and of right onely ought to chuse unto the Convocation house . The reason ; we of the Laity ( so they will call us ) have our houses of Commons where our Trustees by vertue of our voyces doe sit at the same time . But in the choice unto a Synod , wee who must be bound by the determinations of the Synod , ought also to be interessed in the parties determining . This is cleare enough in reason , and will bee better cleared presently . Of Synods I finde five severall sorts , first a generall or universall Synod ; secondly , Patriarchichall , Thirdly National , fourthly Provinciall ; fiftly a Diocesan Synod . I passe by the two first and last , as not pertinent to this time and affaire . Concerning Provinciall and Nationall Synods a word or two ; If I knew which to call their late meeting . They runne on in riddles : and I want Oedipus at every turne . These Canons , were they forged in one Synod Nationall , or in two Proncialls ? — were they two Provinciall Synods ? how then come their Actes and Canons to bee imbodyed together ? how comes it to passe that all the Canons speake in the singular number ? The Synod ; The holy Synod ; The Sacred Synod . Sacred will now be hardly granted , unlesse as the Poet doth , — Auri sacra fames . Was it then but one ? was it a Nationall Synod ? why the Provinces ( wee all know ) never did convene , they never met together . Looke on the representative body of the Commons of this whole Land : every one within the same walles hearing every ones argument , and thereupon mending , altering , and ( as occasion is ) correcting his own judgement , & afterwards ( {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} , ) joyning in unanimous consent . And if the able members of the North beyond Trent were divided frō the rest , there would be quickly found a want of their worth and weight , nor could their sitting at the same time at Yorke , make the rest a house of Commons here , for the whole Kingdome must be represented entire . But as we have done the Title Synod , so let us give them the attribute Nationall , a Nationall Synod , and yet see how inconsistant and invalidous they are ! The very esse of every Synod doth subsist in a double foundation . Fundamentum materiale and fundamentum formale . — The due materialls of a Synod are the inteteriour qualities and indowments of the persons where of the Synod consisteth , not their externall dignityes and promotions . And therefore every man thus qualified is as capable to bee of the Synod , as any Deane or Archdeacon of them all . The fundamentum formale , is Delegatio ab ecclesia & debita electio . A due choyce to be made by all that are or shall bee concerned in the determinations of the Synod : and this trust of choyce may fall upon another man , as well and as soone as upon Deane or Archdeacon . I will not quarell the want of able parts in any the members of that late doubtfull dangerous meeting : I grant them the materialls of a true Synod , but will insist onely upon the second , want of forme , want of due election : which if they want the most virtuall and most obliging tye , and the most binding part is wanting . That they had no such election , we need not goe forth to prove ; No one man in the Kingdome can say that he gave a voice to the election of any one Deane or Archdeacon to sit for him in that Synod , nor were the Clarkes chosen by all who were to be bound . So then there remaineth only to bee proved this . That such election of persons , by all persons to be concerned in the Decrees , and Canons , is necessary to the constituting of a lawful Synod ; which is all one as to say , that the elections to a Synod ought to by , both be the Clergy and the Laity . I will trouble you but with one reason , and a very few instances , all br●ifely . The Acts and Canons of every Lawfull Nationall Councell or Synod , ought to binde the whole Nation both Laity and Clergie : But this cannot bee reasonable and just , if the Laity bee excluded both from consultation and from choyce of consulters . The reason is plaine . It is ground in nature , and so confessed upon this very case by Dr. Feild , who hath it out of Occom — quod omnes tangit ab omnibus tractari debet . And this is so cleare a maxime , that in this very sence also ; for the Laity to be present at Councells this very Aphorisme is used by the Pope in his own glosse upon the Canonist Gratian . Quod omnes tangit ab omnibus tractari debet . Surely our Clergie are much too high , if herein they would outgoe the very Canons of the Papall Synods , and conclude that which shall binde all , where all are not admitted to treate ; neither by themselves nor by proxy . Now the benefit of this Law of nature and of Reason ( as Dr. Field calleth it ) we clayme . The present Canons doe concerne us . I may be a Church-warden , my sonne may bee a Master of Art ; then must I present upon their yet unborne articles , and he must sweare their oath of Covenant — well , they were never trusted by us unto a Synod , and therefore ought not to tye us up un-heard , it is against nature and reason . To second this Argument by instance in proofe of practice , I shall produce a few , and but a few of many examples and authorities : the originalls I cannot now Command , but must bee content to name a few extracts , which by way of transcript doe walke along with my vademecum . The point that I would establish is this , that in Synods and Councells where Lay men are concerned in the Decrees , there the Laity ought to be present to consult if not also to decide the conclusions . I will but point , I will not enlarge to the vouching every place verbatim ; Dr. Feild , Dr. Fulke , Goulartius , are cleare and positive in this point . Our Statutes for correcting & gathering together the former Canons into a new body , doe clearely evidence this unto us ; in all which there is an equall proportion mixed , sixteene of the Clergie and as many of the Laity . The Author of the history of Trent is frequent in this point , adding this for a reason , that in a generall Councell , the universall Church cannot bee represented if the Laity be excluded . So by the rule a paribus : The reason holdeth the same , a Nationall Councell cannot represent a Nation if but one degree of men , men of one quality and capacity be onely present , and the rest altogether excluded . Gratian , the Canonist doth allow the Laity to bee present , especially in such Councells as doe treate of faith , and for proofe doth vouch Pope Nicolas . I will omit many proof●s of many Emperours being personally present and president in many Councells , by themselves and sometimes by their vicegerents , as Marcellinus , Candidianus , Martianus , &c. yet even this is argumentative for us , and a preservative of our right , for the Laity to be present . The Greeke historians are so plentifull that I will but name them . Theodoret. l 5. c. 9. Eusebius de vita Constantin . l. 3. c. 9 & 10 Sozomen . l. ● . c. 16. & 17. Niceph. Callistus . l. 8 c. 15. Socrates . l. 1. c. 5. & l 6. c. 2. Among the Latine fathers Cyprian is very plentifull . As for Councells , looke , Nice . 1. vouched by Eusebius de vita Constantini — 4 conc. Carthag . cited by Gratian . — The Councell of Eliberis in Spaine . Councell of Constantinople in Theodoret. — Councell of Constance ; And the second of Nice . — where it is said of that imperiall Lady the famous Pulcheria Augusta , that ipsa persemet ipsam in sancta quarta Synodo sedit : which fourth Synod was with Martianus the Emperour . To these I adde the very Ordo celebrandi concilia written by Isidor , and like unto the Modus tenendi Parliamentum . Thus much for humane testimonie , I have done with my hasty notes , onely I adde this , and I beseech you to intend it . Whilest we of the Laity had our power and voices to chuse our owne Ministers , and our owne Bishops , ( which was our ancient right , constantly allowed & practised in the best Primitive times , whereof the proofes are yet evident enough ) so long ( I say ) we might trust them in a Synod , whom wee first had trusted to direct and guide our soules in all the ministeriall function . — But to conclude us up now and shut us out contrary to the Law of Nature and Reason , contrary to ancient usages : not to admit us to determination , nay to exclude us from consultation , and after all to take from us all assent both in choyse and in refusall of Pastors to be set over us , and yet to binde us by decres so made , may prove ( I feare ) no lesse then soule-tyranny . I doe not presse the deserved right of our choyse of Pastors : but one thing more , lend me patience to adde as supreme Coronis to all that I have said for right of Laity in Synods . Looke I beseech you in the first Synod that ever was held in the Christian Church and that for so great and singular a cause as never was occasion for the like in the world before or since : you have it in the first of the Acts of the holy Apostles , and it is for the choice of a new Apostle . There were in this Synod and of this Synod , the eleven Apostles , Acts 1. 13. with the brethren of the Lord , verse 14. There were the Disciples , there was Turba {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} a multitude , of abovt a 120 names , ver. 15. Saint Peter tells them that out of that number one must bee ordained to be a witnesse of the resurrection of our Saviour ; thereupon what doth the multitude of Disciples there present . {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} verse 23. they place or set two before the Apostles : And the same men viz. all the Disciples verse 26. {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} they give forth their lots , and thereupon , the lot falling upon Matthias , he was numbred ( saith our Translation ) with the eleven Apostles ; but the Originall is more {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} communibus calculis annumeratus est , he was by common assent or by common voyces reckoned with the eleven . Now who were these common voyces , who were these 120 men ? Evangelists , Bishops , Deacons , and Presbyters or Elders , as yet there was not one in all the world , the Apostles were but eleven , perhaps not numbred in this 120. The Disciples if you will say , that they were there and were Clergy men , yet they were but 70. So that here is no evasion : the Laity were present , and not passive only , they were active in this so originall , so weighty a Synod . My second instance in this kinde , is out of the second Councell that ever wee read was held , and this is Acts 6. where the Apostles call a Councell for the choyse of 7 deacons . Then the twelve called the multitude of the Disciples to them , ver. 2. {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} . They being assembled doe not say , we have decreed , we have ordered and ordayned , and injoyned , but their language is verse 3. {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} , brethren looke ye out , the word is the same as {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} both from {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} to oversee , doe you oversee among you , seven men of honest report . And the saying ( as it is verse 5. ) pleased {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} , the whole multitude , there is a consent of theirs , more plaine in {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} they the multitude chose seaven , Stephen and Philip , &c. {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} whom they ( still the multitude {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} ) verse 6. did set or place before the Apostles . The third and the last shall be the {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} the great and generall Councell held by the Apostles upon the dissention of the Church in point of Circumcision ( and that is Acts 15. ) there you shall againe finde present , {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} verse 12. All the multitude : but you will say and object that the next word is {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} the multitude kept silence . True , ergo what ? Therefore they speake not at all in this Councell ? nothing lesse . But ergo they had spoken before : for it is plaine by the word . Then all the multitude kept silence . If they had nothing there to doe but to be alwaies silent , this particle of time , Then might well have beene spared . This may perhaps be objected and therefore ought to bee prevented , for the further clearing whereof , observe ( I pray ) the next verse , v. 13. where in like manner , it is said of Paul and Barnabas {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} . And after they held their peace , ergo they had spoken . And therefore the Fryer who collected together a body of Councells ( Peter Crabbe the German ) doth even from this place inferre a consent of the people saying , Tacuit omnis multitudo Consentiens Petro . But if you would have this more clearely evidenced beyond all exceptions , I pray take notice of the resolution of this Synod , verse 22. Then pleased it the Apostles and Elders with the whole Church . With the whole Church , what is that ? The blessed Apostles and their fellow labourers did not engrosse , and ( as our Church-men affect to doe ) usurpe and monopolize the word Church , as proper onely to Church-men . — No you shall finde it even in the Epigraphe of the Canons and Decrees of this true , holy , and sacred Synod , that the despised Laity are in these Canons conjoyned with the blessed Apostles although Pope and Patriarch , Primate and Metropolitan , Archbishop and Bishops , yea even downe to Deane and Archdeacon : ( I have heard it ) doe dispise the thought of admitmitting the Laity . I do not say to decision , but even to Consultation , nay to the very choyce of consulters in Religion : nay lower even so much as to have a negative power , when a man of inabilitie , and of ill life is obtruded upon them ; I proceed , for I would not orare but probare , looke verse 23. They that were present had voyce , They who voiced the Canons , joyned in the decree , and sending the decree unto Antioch . The words are thus , The Apostles and Elders , and Brethren send greeting to the Brethren which are in Antioch , &c. Here the Brethren at Hierusalem are ( with the Apostles and the Elders ) actors in and authors of the Canons in this Councell agreed . There is no evasion , no clusion , to be had , unlesse you can prove that all the Brethren in Antioch to whom these Brethren in Hierusalem did write , were onely Clergie men . Which if you should affirme , our Clergy will hardly bee pleased with you , for they must then be of the multitude ( not a speciall lot ) for Barnabas and Paul did deliver this Epistle ( being t●e decree of this Synod ) to the multitude {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} as it is found in the 30 verse . And when they had gathered the multitude together they delivered the Epistle . Thus much in way of pursuit for this one argument , that no Canons can binde the Laity where we have no voyce of our owne , nor choyce of the Clergie persons who doe found them , nor assent in the susception of them after they are framed . Quod omnes tangit ab omnibus tractari debet . It remaines as a wish that every member of that meeting , who voted these exorbitant Canons , should come severally to the barre of the Parliament house with a Canon booke in his hand , and there unlesse he can answer his Catechisme ( as I call'd it ) and shew what is the name of their meeting , and ( unlesse hee can manifest that the Laity are no part of the Church ) conceptis verbis in such expresse termes as that hovse should thinke fit , to abjure his owne ill begotten issue , or else be Commanded to give fire to his owne Canons . FINIS . HOSEA 8. 4. {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} . They have reigned to themselves , and not by me : they have beene princes , and I knew it not . THAT BB. OVGHT NOT TO HOLD SECVLAR POWER . OVR Lord and Saviour ( blessed for ever ) being indeede a King , Pilate ( his Judge ) seemeth to start and bee in feare at that great title : Although our Saviour had told him ( Iohn 18. 36. ) saying , My Kingdome is not of this world : Pilate ( still in feare ) sought to release him ( Iohn 19. 12. ) but more in feare of Caesar ( the King at that time of this world ) he adjudged the Lord of life to death , yet honorably writeth his Title ( Mat. 27. 37. ) This is Iesus the King of the Iewes . This title he then was crowned withall , when life and death divided his soule and body asunder ; that in a manner it may bee said , hee never was King indeede , untill he was out of this world . If he who was our Lord and Master ( Ioh. 13. 13. ) had not this worlds royalty , whence commeth that the Pope is Crowned ? and his Cardinall 's in purple ? whence have our Bishops their Lordships ? and as themselves call it ( Bishop Hall in his Episcopacy , &c. part § 2. p. 106. ) jura regalia ) their royalty and rites of Baronage ? It may prove a disquisition deepe and dangerous , yet I desire ( without envy to their pompe or persons ) to wade so farre as may satisfie a minde that loves Truth , and desires to be led by it : and this with all possible brevity . There hath beene a happie and blessed reformation of our Church , God send a better , and a more severe reformation of our Churchmen , or else our Church is now in danger to be deformed againe . The state of this inquirie may bee this , viz. whether the Ministers of Christs Kingdome may receive worldly titles , and execute worldly offices and powers ? or more generally thus : Whether a Clergy man may semel & simul , be both a Clergy man and a Layman , in power , office and authotity over other men in both kinds ? Goe we to the fountaine head ( Luke 22. 24 ) There was a strife among them ( the Apostles ) which of them should bee accompted the greatest ; which of the twelve soever beganne this emulation of power . Certaine it is that the two soones of Zebedee , Iames and Iohn with their mother first presumed ( Mat. 20. 20. ) to come and aske the highest places of honour ( next to the very throne ) in the Kingdome of Christ ; which Kingdome was conceited by them shortly after to be raised in the splendour of this world : This is genuinely gathered from this very story , generally confessed , & clearely confirmed in the historie of the Acts , &c. where the Apostles doe aske our Saviour , even after his resurrection saying ( Acts 1. 6. ) Lord wilt thou at this time restore againe the Kingdome to Israel . Therefore to these two brethren and their mother , so much mistaken in the nature of his Kingdome he maketh answer ( Mat. 20. 22. ) yee know not what you aske . He presently sheweth the entertainement of his Kingdome , A cup to drinke of , that many were like to pray might passe from them ; but they answer they are able to drinke thereof . This their answer as it proved true in all the twelve Apostles , so by the providence of God , one of these two brothers ( Acts 12. ●● ) Iames , was the first of all the rest , who dranke the cup of Martyrdome , and as some thinke Iohn was the last of the Apostles . Equalls looke awry on the ambition of their fellowes . These two were vaine in their high request , and the other ten murmured at their presumption ( Math. 20. 24. ) They were moved with indignation saith Saint Matthew : ( Mar. 10. 41. ) They began to be much displeased , saith Saint Marke . But by this happie error of these two Apostles , our Saviour takes occasion to instruct them , and the other ten , and in them all other Ministers belonging unto him , how farre different the pastorall care of his Church , is from the power which governeth in commonwealthes . Here upon the sonne of God calleth unto him all the twelve Apostles , saying , ( Mat. 20. 25. ) ye know that the Princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion , &c. ( Mar. 10. 24. ) ye know that they which are accompted to rule over the Gentiles , exercise Lordships , &c. ( Luke 22. 25. ) The Kings of the Gentiles exercise Lordships , &c. {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} . But it shall not be so among you . This is a statute not to be repealed . This is spoken authorative & definitivè , it is the determinate Law of a just authority . A Canon ordained and irrevocably fixed by the wisedome of God . Confirmed by an example above all argument ( Mat. 20. 28. Mar. 10. 45. ) For the sonne of man came not to be ministred unto , but to Minister . ( Luke 22. 22. ) I am among you as he that serveth . And before this hee had taught them , ( Mat. 10. 24. ) That the Disciple is not , above his Master . ( Ioh. 13. 15. 16. ) I have given you an example , that you shall doe as I have done to you , verily , verily , the servant is not greater then the Lord . This ministry being thus performed in humility , and without worldly titles . The Ministers shall be then exalted . Our blessed Saviour in the expresse words following saith unto them ( Luke 22. 29. ) I appoint unto you a Kingdome ( but addeth ) as my Father hath appointed me . Now his owne Kingdome is spirituall , or as himselfe said unto Pilate , not of this world . Let them then renounce temporall , and they shall have spirituall honour . But some of the Clergy would ( it seemes ) confound both Kingdomes , being ambitious to inherit Glory in the Kingdom of Grace . I feare our Bishops doe not know how sublime a vertue Christian humility is ! how full of Honour . Every {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} must bee {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} , let the greatest be ( Lu. 22. 26. ) as the youngest that is the way to be a right Elder , he must be {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} Luk. 22. 27. as he that serveth that is the way to be ministred unto . He must be {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} ( Matthew 20. 27. Marke 10. 44. ) a servant , that he may be {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} the prime or chiefe . He must be {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} ( Mat. 20. 25. ) a Minister that he may bee {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} a great one . These antitheses our Saviour hath placed in the text upon the former occasion . From hence , may well bee argued as a Corollary , to these undoubted premisses , that no Minister of the Gospel can lawfully assume , hold , or exercise that power which by the Lord of the Gospel is inhibited to his Ministers . But our Saviour Iesus Christ ( Lord and only head of his Church ) hath inhibited all temporall Lordship , Magistracy & Dominion unto his servants . Therefore no Minister of this Gospel may hold or exercise temporall Lordships or dominion . These words {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} &c. It shall not bee so among you , doe so straighten the Bishops miters , that they sit uneasie on their heads : to soften & as it were to line them for their ease : the Bishops that are and would bee both Papall and Protestant do quilt a gentler sence into these words then can beare analogy with the Text . They search the originall and pretend to finde another sence in our Saviours sentence . This Text ( say they ) forbids not unto Clergy men , the use and exercise of worldly titles , power , offices , dignities , Commands , dominion , Lordships , &c. but the abuse of them : domineering and tyrannizing with them . This they pretend to make firme out of the greeke word {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} ; which they would have so taken in the worst sence of exorbitant power , even for Tyrannizing . So then , they would teach us , that , Lord it they may , & Lord it they may not : Lord it they may with all Pompe , state , power ; Lord it they may not , with pride , vanity , & oppression . But I shall easily prove this interpretation to be inconsistent with the scope & analogy of the Context . Will they frame their argument from the verbe {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} to be a Lord , or to rule ? or frō the preposition {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} , added and united thereunto ? neither will serve . And if the pompe of our Prelates cannot avoyd the power of this text , they are downe for ever . Let me therefore scan it to the full . First {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} to be a Lord , or to have rule or Lordship , is never properly taken in that ill sence which they would he ere create , as having unjust , or oppressive power . It is derived from the usuall and most frequent title of our Lord and Saviour , whom the holy Scripture so often saluteth {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} Lord . Heere is no shaddow for Tyranny . The true sence of {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} is authoritatem habens one that hath authority : beeing derived from {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} authority which is knowne to bee approved and ordeyned by God himselfe from whom all lawfull authority is derived . Marke how well this word is senced through all Authours : Demosthenes calleth the heads and cheife of the Citty {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} . A law in force and principall authority is called by Aeschines {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} . Gallen calleth the cheife and principall members of a mans body {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} : yet one member doth not tyrannize over another . Aristotle ( 6. Ethic. ) hath {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} propria virtus , ( that is ) a vertue properly or principally so called . {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} is one that is Lord or master of himselfe , not one that domineeres over himselfe . {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} ( Apoc. 1. 10. ) The Lords day . {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} ( 1 Cor. 11. 20. ) The Lords Supper . Saint Paul saith that ( Rom. 7. 1. ) The law hath dominion over a man so long as he liveth , hee doth not meane that the law is a Tyrant , yet the word is {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} ( Rom. 14. 19. ) Christ both dyed , and rose , and revived , that he might bee Lord both of the living and the dead : {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} . From {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} Lord commeth {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} Lordship : foure times mentioned by the holy Apostles , but never taxed as a power tending to Tyranny , but to be obeyed in them who duly are therewith invested , as may be seene . ( Ephes. 1. 21. Coloss. 1. 16. 2 Pet. 2. 10. and Iude 8. ) Clearely then in {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} there is no print of usurpation or of oppressive and tyrannicall power . If there be , we are then well warned to beware of our Bishops , who not onely owne the title {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} , but expressly pleade for it , as Bishop Hall in his late Episcopacy , ( part 2. page 104. Secondly , {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} the very word ( used by Saint Matthew , and Saint Marke , in these before alleaged Textes ) whereby our Saviour forbiddeth his Apostles to exercise Dominion or Lordship is a compounded word of two {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} and {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} . That is , to rule as one that hath authority . I may render it to be , or to behave one selfe ( {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} juxta , Secundum ) according as one that hath authority . This preposition in words compounded hath sometimes a signification of his owne , sometimes none at all as in {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} , &c. clearely it hath no speciall signification in this {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} , much lesse a force so exegeticall as to draw the lawfull power of {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} into the exorbitancy of a Tyranny . That it hath no force here , is by this apparent , for that the speech of our Saviour , recorded by the holy Ghost in Saint Mat. and S. Marke by {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} and by {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} are rendred by the same spirit in Saint Luke ) {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} and {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} . So that plainely you must not pretend tyrannizing to be meant in the sence of one place except you can finde it also in both , unlesse you will come to this that he forbiddeth tyranny in one place , & worldly power in the other , which if you doe you grant the question . This is enough alone , yet for a further interpretation of {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} looke in ( 1. 28. Genesis ) where God giveth unto man in the time of mans innocency , the rule and dominion over all his creatures , even whilest they all were ( Gen. 1. 31. ) very good . The name and word of power in that great Charter granted is {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} . Now the time of this power granted , the person to whom it is granted , the creatures all good on whom it was to be exercised , & above all the goodnesse of Almighty God who granted it , do exclude all imaginatiō of a Tyrannicall power , and admit onely of a fatherly mastership over the new creatures of God . If then the frequent and constant sence of both {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} and {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} , bee onely to have power and authority , civill , temporall , and ordinary dominion , and that all such authority is forbidden them , how poore and weake is that evasion for our Bishops , who would have this speech of our Saviour taken in a forced sence different from all these other places ? and would forge a new meaning , as if our Saviour did not here forbid {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} but only {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} , not a Commanding Lordlines , but a Tyrannuos use of it ; when as it is hereby evident , that Christ having ordained the Aristocracy of twelve , did therein and in his reprehension here take away those severall benches of honour , and that proud imparity of Temporall power which our Bishops doe swell withall . That the former speeches of our Saviour , doth destroy the Lordlinesse of our Prelates , let us confirme it with a farther consideration , which is thus . Our Saviour Christ being ( 1 Cor. 1. 24. ) the wisedome of God , must be thought to fit and suite his answer to the question and request made unto him by the two Apostles . But what Bishop in defence of his usurped power , dares affirme that two such admirable ( Gal. 2. 9. ) Pillars , as Iames , and Iohn , should aske of such a Master iniquam dominationem , a cruell dominion over their fellowes , as if the meaning of their request were thus . Master , gives us two leave to tyrannize over the other ten ! He had taught them before , ( Mat. 5. 5. ) Blessed are the meeke and ( Math. 11. 29. ) Learne of me for I am meeke and lowly in heart : Can it then bee thought that the beloved Disciple and his brother , shall aske of the master of all Humility , a Tyrannicall power to oppresse their partners ? No man hath such a heart of leade to think , yet there have not wanted foreheads of brasse to affirme so : Certainely , in that Kingdom of Christ , by them as then supposed to bee Temporall , they desired the honour to shine in civill dignity , & eminency of power and authority , which ( no question ) they intended to have exercised with all brotherly moderation , yet are they ( and I wish our Bishops also were ) answered with his reprehension , first ( Math. 20. 22. ) yee know not what ye aske , next with his absolute denyall and forbiddance , {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} &c. it shall not be so among you . Will the practice of Saint Paul , and the Councell of Saint Peter serve for comment to this text ? Saint Paul saith {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} , ( 2 Cor. 1. 2. 4. ) We Lord it not . Saint Peter ( 1 Pet. 5. ) Himselfe an Elder to other Elders , exhorteth them to feede the flocke , {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} overseeing it : and that not by constraint {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} , nor as being Lords . But as in the fifth verse , All of you be subject one to another . Therefore my resolution stands cleare upon this vote ; That it may bee declared that true and right Episcopacy is incompatible and inconsistant with secular power . They who give in their names to be labourers in Gods vineyard must not goe out of the doore , and thinke to returne at pleasure : their whole time they have vowed to the great Master of the Vineyard , and I find no wages promised but to them who enter and continue there to the last houre . No man putting his hand to the plough and looking backe , is fit for the kingdome of God . Luke 9. 62. Let therefore this inhibitory statute against Bishops having temporal Lordships , stand ( as it must stand ) irrepealable {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} . It shall not be so among you . FINIS .