Some sensible, weighty queries, concerning some things very sweet and necessary to be experienced in the truly-Christian state whereunto is added A postscript, containing some queries on Isa. 50. 10, 11. A scripture of deep counsel & concern to the darkned and distressed states, of some among those that fear & obey the Lord. Written by one, who hath been sorely darkned and distressed, for a long season, but at length mercifnlly [sic] enlightned & comforted by the hand which afflicted & distressed him, Isaac Penington. Penington, Isaac, 1616-1679. 1677 Approx. 22 KB of XML-encoded text transcribed from 11 1-bit group-IV TIFF page images. Text Creation Partnership, Ann Arbor, MI ; Oxford (UK) : 2006-06 (EEBO-TCP Phase 1). A54064 Wing P1203 ESTC R220472 99831872 99831872 36339 This keyboarded and encoded edition of the work described above is co-owned by the institutions providing financial support to the Early English Books Online Text Creation Partnership. 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Keying and markup guidelines are available at the Text Creation Partnership web site . eng Bible. -- O.T. -- Isaiah L, 10-11 -- Commentaries -- Early works to 1800. Christianity -- Essence, genius, nature -- Early works to 1800. Theology, Doctrinal -- Early works to 1800. 2005-09 TCP Assigned for keying and markup 2005-11 Apex CoVantage Keyed and coded from ProQuest page images 2006-01 John Latta Sampled and proofread 2006-01 John Latta Text and markup reviewed and edited 2006-04 pfs Batch review (QC) and XML conversion Some Sensible , Weighty QUERIES , Concerning some things very sweet and necessary to be experienced in the Truly-Christian State. whereunto is added A Postscript , Containing some Queries on Isa . 50. 10 , 11. A Scripture of Deep Counsel & Concern to the darkned and distressed states , of some among those that fear & obey the Lord. Written by one , who hath been sorely darkned and distressed , for a long season , but at length mercifully enlightned & comforted by the hand which afflicted & distressed him , Isaac Penington . Come and let us return unto the Lord ; for he hath come , and he will heal us : He hath smitten , and he will bind us up , Hos . 6. 1. And in that Day thou shalt say , O Lord I will praise thee , though thou wast angry with me , thine Anger is turned away and thou comfortedst me , Isa . 12. 1. Printed in the Year , 1677. A Brief Preface . INdeed , the Lord hath reached unto me by his living Power , and thereby hath begotten somewhat which he doth own , and which he hath taught to know and own him in his living appearances in my Heart : and by its pure Life and Operations in me , I know it to be the pure Power . And truly I would fain have this Life and Power more and more reach to , prevail and spread in my own heart , and in the Hearts of other men . I am not for any noti●nal Religion out of the Power , in any Way or Form whatsoever ( No indeed , I am not so much as for the very true Form of Godliness out of the Power ) but where there is any Touch , any Sense , any Operation , any Savour of the true Life and Power any where , my Soul loveth and embraceth it blessing the Lord for it . And O that this might be visited by the Lord , Wherever it is , and kept alive to the Day of Redemption , and led by the Lord into the pure and living Way , and holy , everlasting Covenant of Life , Wherein he redeems , for which End these Queries have broke forth from me ; and indeed , no less then a Necessity ( or a Necessitous Fonci of Love and Life pursuing me ) hath constrained me to publish them , who with Reverence of Spirit commit them into the Hand of the Lord , who can open the Hearts of whom he pleaseth , and give the living Sense of what comes from him . I am satisfied that God's Powerful Work of Redeeming will go on . O blessed be his Name , who hath a mighty Arm , and hath done mighty things with it , inwardly ●n mens Hearts ; and we are in the true Faith assured , that he will yet do more mighty thin●s , as he seeth good , to the Gladding of the Hearts of those whose Hope is in him , and who have no Help besides him . Some Sensible , VVeighty Queries , concerning some things very sweet , & necessary to be experienced in the Truly Christian-State . Query 1. WHat is the Water , wherewith the Soul or Inner-man is to be washed , that it may be cleansed from its inward Filthiness , as outward things are by washing with outward VVater ? Ezek. 36. 25. Psal . 51. 2 , &c. Q. 2. VVhat is the Answer of a Good Conscience towards God , when the soul is inwardly baptized and made clean ? Pet. 3. 21. Q. 3. Christ faith , Blessed are the Pure in Heart ; Do , or can any witness Purity of Heart before this washing ? Q. 4. How may the Heart be sprinkled from an Evil Conscience , and the Body washed with pure water ; so that there may be a drawing near to God with a True Heart , and in full assurance of Faith , Heb. 10. 22. Psal . 26. 6. Q. 5. How might the Jews wash and make themselves clean , Isa . 1. 16. Could it be any otherwise done by them , then by taking heed to the VVord of the new Covenant , nigh in the Mouth and Heart , to which Moses had directed them , Deut. 30. 14. Psal . 119. 9. Q 6. VVhat is the Fire which takes hold of , and burns up the Lusts and Corruptions of the Heart ? Is it not the Word of Life within , which flames against Evil , and hammers down Evil ? Doth not the Holy One in the midst of the Spiritual Israel do this ? VVhen Christ who knocks at the Door of the Heart , is let in , and his Voice hearkned to , doth not he become a Spirit of Judgment , and Burning , judging and burning up , what is evil there ? Is it not blessed to know this spiritual Appearance , and this work of Christ in the Heart , Isa . 4. 4. & 10. 17. Q 7. VVhat are the Enemies of a Man's House ? VVho must overcome them ? How may they be overcome ? Is a man safe or delivered from them till they be overcome , Mat. 15. 19. 2 Cor : 10. 4 , 5. Q. 8. VVhat is the House of the Strong-Man , where he dwells till he be dispossessed ? VVho can dispossess him ? How doth he dispossess him ? How doth he spoil his Goods and then garnish the House a new ? O what a new Creation and Change within is witnessed , when this is done ? And who would not wait , and pray , and believe , and suffer the Judgings and Burnings of the spirit of Judgment and Burning , that this might be done throughly and effectually , Luke 11. 21 , 23. Isa . 26. 9. 2 Cor. 5. 17. Q. 9. VVhat is that coming to Christ , which none can witness , but those that hear and learn of the Father , and are taught by him ; in the Drawings of the Life and Spirit of the New Covenant , to come to the Son , John 6. 44 , 45. Q. 10. VVho can confess Jesus to be the Lord by the Holy Ghost ? Can any but they that receive the Help of his spirit ; and feel somewhat of his Lordship and holy Dominion in their hearts , Isa . 26. 13. Q. 11. VVhat is the precious Faith , which is the Gift of God , which none can obtain , but they that are born of God ? John 1. 12 ; 13. Q. 12. Can any rightly believe that Jesus is the Christ , runless they receive this Faith , which God gives to his own Children that are born of his spirit , 1 John 5. 1. Q. 13. Doth not this Faith give Victory over the world ? ( over the worldly nature and spirit within ; over the worldly nature and spirit without also ) can any other Faith give victory ? 1 John 5. 4. Q. 14. VVhat is the Love of God's Children ? VVhence doth it arise ? How come they to love ? Is it not of an heavenly , spiritual nature ? Doth it not arise from God's begetting them and circumcising their hearts , and teaching them in the spirit of the New Covenant to love him , and one another , yea and Enemies also , 1 John 4. 7. Deut. 30. 6. 1 Thes . 4. 9. Q. 15. How come the Children of God , who are begotten of him , to obey his Commandments ? Is it not from the Constrainings of his Love , which makes them natural and easie ( where this Birth and Nature is grown up ) and not grievous and burthensom , Mat. 11. 33. 1 John 5. 3. Q. 16. VVhat is the Fear God puts into the hearts of the Children of the New Covenant ? Is it a Fear taught by the Precepts of men , or a Fear springing from the Root of Life within ? Can any who receive this Fear from God , and who are preserved in the sense of it ( and in the holy Awe and Reverence which it produceth ) depart from the holy , tender , living God and Father ? Jer. 32. 40. Q. 17. VVhat is the Law which God writes in the Hearts of the Children of the New Coenant ? Is it not the Law of the spirit ●ife in Christ Jesus ? Is it not the Law which the Isles wait for ? Isa . 41. 5. And do the Isles wait for it in vain ? O blessed be the Lord , by the once distressed and miserable ones , in this Age it hath not been waited for in vain . Q 18. VVhat is the Truth that makes free indeed , from the Law of sin and death ? Is it not the Truth as it is in Jesus ; the inward Truth , which hath Virtue and Power in it , to work against and work out that which is contrary to Truth , and so deliver and free the Mind from it ? For the Light , which is Truth , can expel Darkness ; the Life which is Truth , can overcome Death ; yea , the Truth which is living , holy and righteous , can overcome and subdue the unholy and unrighteous Nature , and break down the strong Holds , and bring every rebellious and captivating Thought into Captivity and subjection , John 8. 32. Rom. 8. 2. Ephes . 4. 20 , 21. 2 Cor. 10. 4. 5. Q 19. How doth God cause the Children of the New Covenant to walk in his Statutes and keep his Judgments and do them ? Is it not by putting his spirit into them , and by the holy Virtue , Power and Operation thereof in them ? Doth not that make them a willing People in the day of his Power ? And doth not that give them to do also , and strengthen them with might in the inner man ? so that not grieving that , or quenching that : that is as a Flame of Life in them , and fills their Hearts with Joy , and the Joy of the Lord is their strength ; and in this Joy and strength they can rejoyce and work Righteousness , and remember the Lord in his wayes , Isa . 64. 5. Ezek 36. 27. Q. 20. Can any work Righteousness , or do Righteousness , but he that is truly Righteous , inwardly Righteous ; in whom the Righteousness of God , the Righteousness of Christ is revealed from Faith to Faith ? Must not the Tree be good , before the Fruit can be good ? Must not the heart be changed , be made holy and righteous , before it can bring forth that which is holy and righteous ? Can any but the Plants of God , the Plants of Righteousness , bring forth the fruits of Righteousness ? Isa . 61. 3. & 1 John 3. 7. O that People , Nations , Tongues and Languages , could understandingly , sensibly and experimentally as in God's sight , with the seal of his blessed spirit , answer every one of these things ! Three Queries more added . Query 1. DOst thou indeed know the new Covenant ? Hast thou inwardly felt the spiritual , powerful Gathering , by the mighty Arm and Power of the Lord , out of the sinful nature and state , into it ? Dost thou abide with God therein ? And art thou daily taught and fed by him there ? These are very weighty things , can any man be safe or happy without experiencing them ? Heb. 8. 8. &c. Q 2. Hast thou experienced the true Hunger and Thirst after the Living Waters ? Hast thou been called and led to them ? Hast thou eat and drunk the Bread , Wine and Milk which those waters yield ? Hast thou been abundantly satisfied with the fatness of God's house , and hath he given thee to drink of the River of his Pleasure ? Hath the Lord opened an Ear in thee to hear as the learned ? And hast thou inclined thy Ear and come unto him who gives Life , and received him who is Life and gives Life in that inward , spiritual , living Appearance of his in the heart , wherein and whereby he gives Life ? Hast thou known his Appearance inwardly , as of a Living Stone ? hast thou heard and learned o the Father how to come to him , as to a Living Stone ? And hast thou been new-created and formed a Living Stone by him ? And art thou a Living stone built upon him the Living stone inwardly in spirit , daily living in him , any daily receiving spiritual Life and Virtue from him ? If it be thus with thee , then surely thou dost know and enjoy the Everlasting Covenant , even the sure Mercies of David , Isa . 55. 1 , 2 , 3 Psal . 36. 8 , 9. 1 Pet. 2 4 , 5. Q. 3. Dost thou sensibly and experimentally know , how the spirit of the Father begets the Child-like Life , Love and Fear in the heart , and how the pure Fear of the Lord is the Beginning of VVisdom , and the living Child's Treasure ? And dost thou know what the VVomb is , wherein the living Child is formed ? VVhat the Jerusalem above is , which is the Mother of all that are truly living ? and how Christ is formed in all that are begotten , and born of , and live in his spirit ? Isa . 33. 6. Gal. 4. 26. John 3. v. 6 , & 8. Gal. 4. 19. The Conclusion . O how Miserable is he , who is deceived about these things ! O how Happy is he , who hath received the true Understanding from God , which cannot be deceived ; wherein he hath the Evidence and Demonstration of God's Spirit concerning them , and knoweth the Truth as it is in Jesus ; as it is in his Life , in his Spirit , in his Power , who ministers after the Power of an Endless Life unto all his Sheep , wo are returned to the Shepherd and Bishop of the Soul , who hear his Voice and follow him , wherever he goes or leads , who is an eternal Shepherd and eternal Door of Life to his , and leads to precious Pastures , and sweet still Sreams of Life , and is giving the sweet Food , Rest and pure Pleasure of Eternal Life unto his abundantly , even as it is his Will , that after their many sore Trials , Exercises and Travels ( & Faithfulness to him therein ) they should abundantly possess and enjoy it . Glory to the Lord for ever , whose Kingdom is set up in the Hearts of many , and who already reigns in the Hearts of many , and will reign in the hearts of more . O that men might hear the sound of his Everlasting Gospel , and learn to fear him , and give Glory to him , and know the hour of his Judgment come in their own hearts ; that by his Judgment against sin and unrighteousness in them , they might come to know and worship him , and then the worship of the Dragon and Beast would soon come to an End in their Hearts ; and they would worship the Begetter of Holiness the Begetter of Life , the King of Saints , who dwells and rules in those that are his own , as the Devil the Destroyer doth in those that are his . The Lord God of Everlasting Power break down the Kingdom of Satan ( the Kingdom of Unrighteousness and Darkness in mens hearts ) and exalt the Kingdom and Scepter of his own Son instead thereof , Amen . Postscript , Containing some Queries on Isa . 50. 10 , 11. Verse 10. WHo is among you that feareth the Lord , that obeyeth the Voice of his Servant , that walketh in Darkness and hath no Light ? It is rendered in another Translation . And no Light shineth upon him , ( which was Job's case in his great Affliction , as is signified by him , chap. 29. 2. 3. ) Let him trust in the Name of the Lord , and stay upon his God. Verse 11. Behold all ye that kindle a fire , that composs about with sparks , walk in the light of your own Fire , and in the sparks ye have kindled , this shall ye have of mine Hand , ye shall lie down in Sorrow . Query 1 DOth not the Tender and Merciful God , many times in the Bowels of his Love and Mercy , bring Darksness and great Distress upon mens spirits , that they might wait for his Healing and Redemption ? Yea , doth not this befal some who fear the Lord , and are found in the holy reverence and obedience to him ? And is it not good that it should befal them ? Q. 2. Should not men in such a condition of Darkness and Distress , trust in the Name of the Lord , and stay upon him , till he cause Light to arise out of Obscurity , and comfort them that mourn in Zion ; giving them Beauty for Ashes , the Oyl of Joy for Mourning , and the Garment of Praise for the Spirit of Heaviness ? Q. 3. Are not Persons very proue and liable in time of Darkness and Distress , instead of waiting upon God for his Help and Salvation , to be kindling a fire and compassing themselves about with sparks ? Q. 4. Are there not some who cannot be content without Heat and Warmth in their Religion and Performances ; and yet instead of waiting for God's kindling the fire , and his causing the sparks of Life to arise , kindle a fire of themselves ; and compass themselves about with sparks of their own Kindling Q. 5. May not men after they have kindled a fire and sparks ; walk in the Light thereof ? And may not God in his just Judgment and sore Displeasure against them , leave them to themselves , and give them up so to do ? Q. 6. What will God do in the end , or what in the end shall befall them from God , who kindle a fire and sparks ; and have continued walking in the Light thereof , and have been heated and warmed thereby ? Will not God cause them at length to lie down in sorrow ? O that Persons that are serious in Religion , might not thus err , and so provoke God to give them up , to walk in the Light of the fire and sparks of their own kindling . Q. 7. When do men kindle a fire and sparks of their own ? Do they not first forget the God of their Salvation , and become unmindful of the Rock of their Strength ? And do they not then , plant pleasant Plants , and set strange Slips ? ( And where do they plant and set them ? ) But what will the Harvest be in the Day of Inheritance , when they come to reap and inherit what they have planted and sown ? ( For what a man so weth , that must he also reap . ) Will it not be a Heap for the Fire of God's Jealousie to take hold of , in the Day of their Tribulation , Anguish and desperate Sorrow of Heart , Isa . 17. 10 , 11. Q. 8. In what Light do men build up a wall inwardly , and daub it with untempered Morter , to secure themselves from the wrath to come ? Is it not in the light of the fire and sparks of their own kindling ? Will any wall or Defence built up in the Light of this fire or sparks secure men , will not the Wrath of God in the day thereof , break forth upon all the Workers of iniquity , whatever their Faith or Hope be to the contrary ? Will any wall defend the soul from the over flowing storm of Wrath , but the wall of God's Salvation ? & can any enter within that wall but the Righteous nation which keepeth the Truth , Isa . 26. 1 , 2. The Name of the Lord indeed is a strong Tower , but can any run into it , and get shelter in it , but the Righteous , Prov. 18. 10. Q. 9. VVho is he , who when he falleth , shall arise again ? and after he hath sate in Darkness , the Lord shall be a Light unto him ? Is it not he that feareth the Lord , that obeyeth the Voice of his Servant , that in the time of his Darkness and Distress trusteth in the name of the Lord , and stayes upon his God ? Yea is it not such an one , as is willing to bear the Indignation of the Lord , because he hath sinned against him , until he plead his Cause , and execute Judgment for him ? VVill not the Lord bring forth such an one to the Light , and shall not such an one behold his ●ighteousness ? Mic. 7. 8 , 9. Q. 10. VVhen shall Persons Light rise in obseurity , & their Darkness be as the noon-day ? VVhen shall their Light break forth as the Morning , and , their Hea●h Spring forth speedily ; and their righteousness . go before them , and the Glory the Lord gather them up . And when shall the Lord be their continual Guide and satisfie their soul in droughts , and make fat their Bones , and make them like a watered Garden and like a spring of water , whose waters fail not . Are not these Promises belonging to the Gospel-state ; and are they not fulfilled in the Gospel-state , as People come to know of keep the Gospel-fast , and the Gospel Sabbath . Read 〈◊〉 55. 6 to the end and wait on the Lord to receive Understanding from him that in reading thou mayst understand . O that men Knew the Gospel-fast and the Gospel Sabbath with the leasts of unleavened bread Tabernacles , Trumpets , &c : A little of the knowledge of Mystery of the hidden Life and Power , is of more value , and would do their Souls more than heaps of Litteral Knowledge , wherewith the world is so filled . The knowledge of God and Christ in the Mystery , is no less than Life Eternal in them and to them , who are taught in the new Covenant or Ministration of the lower of the endless Life , So to know them . THE END .