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A48851) Transcribed from: (Early English Books Online ; image set 61301) Images scanned from microfilm: (Early English books, 1641-1700 ; 767:32) A sermon preached before the House of Lords, on November 5, 1680 by ... William Lord Bishop of St. Asaph. Lloyd, William, 1627-1717. [7], 39 p. Printed by M.C. for Henry Brome ..., London : 1680. Includes bibliographical references. Attacking Roman Catholics. Reproduction of original in Huntington Library. Created by converting TCP files to TEI P5 using tcp2tei.xsl, TEI @ Oxford. Re-processed by University of Nebraska-Lincoln and Northwestern, with changes to facilitate morpho-syntactic tagging. Gap elements of known extent have been transformed into placeholder characters or elements to simplify the filling in of gaps by user contributors. 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ORdered by the Lords Spiritual and Temporal in Parliament Assembled , That the Thanks of this House be and are hereby given to the Lord Bishop of St. Asaph , for his pains in Preaching before their Lordships on Friday last , being the Anniversary Thanks giving-day to Almighty God for the deliverance of this Kingdom from the Gun-powder-Treason : and his Lordship is hereby desired to cause his Sermon then Preached to be Printed and Published . Jo. Browne , Cler. Parl. A SERMON Preached before the House of Lords , ON November 5. 1680. By the Right Reverend Father in God , WILLIAM Lord Bishop of St. Asaph . LONDON , Printed by M. C. for Henry Brome , at the Gun in St. Paul's Church-yard , 1680. TO THE LORDS Spiritual and Temporal Assembled in PARLIAMENT . My Lords , WHile I am paying my Obedience to your Lordships Commands for the Printing of this Sermon , I humbly crave leave to say something for the clearing of my self from a Prejudice , which , if true , would render me unfit to be so far owned by your Lordships , as to be admitted to Preach before You ; and having done it , to be commanded to Print my Sermon . For I cannot but take notice , that both before and since I received that Honour from you , I have been tax'd as being not Protestant enough , on account of a Book , called , Considerations touching the true way to suppress Popery in this Kingdom . How far I was concerned in that Treatise , the Preface to it sufficiently declares . The Book it self was Publish'd in Michaelmas Term * 1676. just two years before the Popish Plot was discovered . The design of it was proposed to me as the likeliest Remedy at that time against the same Disease under which we are now labouring for Life , or Death : but it was before things were come to such a dangerous Crisis . I saw it was much the same Design that many of the best and most eminent Protestants , particularly Q. Elizabeth and K. James , had at several times countenanced , and put in practice with very good success : they were , next to the uniting of Protestants , for the dividing of Papists , whose chief advantage hitherto has been their Union , such as it is , and our needless Divisions . But at that time I thought it more proper and seasonable than ever , upon the best Iudgment that I could make of their and our Circumstances . And I have some reason to think I was not mistaken in this . For now I see that at the very time when this was brought to me , and while I was forming my thoughts upon it , the Papists themselves were in a great apprehension of this very thing , as being of all other ways the most likely to blast their hopes , and to preserve us from that Ruine which they were then bringing upon us . Thus Coleman * at that time wrote to the Popes Internuncio , † There is but One thing ( saith he ) to be feared , ( whereof I have a great apprehension , ) that can hinder the success of our Designs ; which is , a Division among the Catholicks themselves . How dividing them ? It follows , by Propositions to the Parliament to accord their conjunction to those that require it , — on Conditions prejudicial to the Authority of the Pope ; — and so to persecute the rest of them with more appearance of Justice , and ruine the one half of them more easily than the whole Body at once . And to shew that Coleman was not singular herein , Cardinal Howard * delivers this as their Iudgment at Rome , where , if any where , they are Infallible ; Division of Catholicks will be the easiest way for Protestants to destroy them . This being said for the Design from so good Authority , I have this farther to say for my self , that only the last part of that Book was my own , in which I did justifie the Reformation of this Church ; and what I wrote in that part , I am sure no Papist can disprove , and I think no Protestant has cause to complain of it . I thank God I have in this whole matter the witness of a goad Conscience ; and I hope likewise your Lordships good opinion of my honest zeal to maintain the Protestant Religion against Popery . For a farther Testimony whereof , and in obedience to your Lordships Commands , I humbly present this following Discourse . My Lords , I am Your Lordships most humble and most obedient Servant , W. Asaph . A SERMON ON PSALM cxxiv . 1 , 2 , 3. Verses . 1. If it had not been the Lord who was on our side ; now may Israel say ; 2. If it had not been the Lord who was on our side , when men rose up against us ; 3. Then they had swallowed us up quick , when their wrath was kindled against us . WHAT Deliverance it was , upon which David made this Psalm , at this distance of time we cannot certainly know . But whatsoever it was , this we find , it was of the People of Israel : And whensoever it happened , we see they remembred it afterwards . It was the manner of Gods people to remember a Deliverance , many years , and ages , after they had received it ; and when that particular deliverance was forgotten , yet still they kept up their Thanksgiving to God , in a Psalm ; which being once composed for that former mercy , might be used ever after upon any other like occasion . The Deliverance of our Fathers on this day was as great as ever any was that God gave the Jews ; and we come now to celebrate it , not many ages after , but while some are yet living that remember it ; and we that have been born since , are as sure of it , as if we had been then living our selves : and yet , for fear it should be forgotten in our Age , God hath been pleased to put us in remembrance , by suffering the same Enemy to put us in fresh Dangers , and then sending us new Deliverances . If all this will not affect us with a sense of what we owe to God for his mercy , we are so far from being like Gods ancient People , that we deserve to be given up to strong Delusions , to a belief of Popish Legends , of a Cecil's Plot , and such like sensless Fictions ; which none could give credit to , that had not first subdued his understanding to the belief of any thing , how incredible soever , by the belief of Transubstantiation . But if we may give any heed to our senses , and to our reason , if we may believe the Testimony of all men then living , if we may judge from our own experience of the like designs since ; ( these I think are all the ways that we have to come to the knowledge of such things , and it were easie to shew that all these ways we are sure of the Gunpowder-Treason . ) As we cannot but think with horror of the danger that the King and Kingdom were then in , so we cannot reflect on their Deliverance but with the greatest admiration : We cannot think of it , especially on this day , without a thankful acknowledgment to God , in such words as his antient people have left us in this Text : If it had not been the Lord who was on our side , now may Israel say ; If it had not been the Lord who was on our side , when men rose up against us ; then they had swallowed us up quick , when their wrath was kindled against us . There are five things to be considered in these words , which , when they are explained , will all be found applicable to our case . Here is first , The wrath and malice of the enemies of Gods people ; and that against Israel , as being the people of God. 'T is exprest in the last words of my Text , They were wrathfully displeased at us . Gods enemies are so at all times , never otherwise ; but at some times they shew it more than at other ; and that is , when they are ready to put their malice in execution ; which is the second thing in my Text. Secondly , Their Conspiracy , their attempt to execute their malice , express'd in these words , When they rose up against us . Thirdly , The extreme danger of Gods People at the time of such an attempt ; which was so great in the Israelites case , that they acknowledged , if it had not been for God , they had been swallowed up quick . The word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 here used , is either whole , or raw , or alive ; and it is interpreted all these ways by the Jewish writers . They had eaten us whole , without chewing , saith Solomon-Melech . They had devoured us raw , saith David-Kinchi . They had swallowed us up alive , saith Aben-Ezra , as the Earth swallowed up Corah , Dathan , and Abiram , that went down alive into the Pit. This phrase , as it signifies the greatness , and nearness , of that danger that comes sometimes on Gods Church ; so it signifies also the eager passionate hopes of their enemies . They had swallowed us up quick , ( saith Israel in my Text : ) They were in great haste to have us in their bellies : that they could not forbear us till we were dead , as one of them renders it ; that they fell upon us raw , they could not stay the dressing of us , saith another ; that they were for swallowing us up whole , they had not patience for chewing , saith a third . Surely , great was their haste , when their wrath was thus kindled against us ; and great was our danger , If God had not been on our side . That is the fourth thing to be considered in these words . Fourthly , It is the providence of God , that watches over his people , that takes part with them against their implacable enemies , that delivers them from danger , even when things are come to extremity . Lastly , Here is a due return to God of Thankfulness from his people ; which as they have cause for at all times , so especially upon such a deliverance , on every thought or mention of it . Now may Israel say , with mouth and heart ; privately , and in the Congregation ; If the Lord had not been on our side , what would have become of us ? And Now , what shall we render to him , for being thus on our side ? Saying is put for Doing in Scripture-language ; all Gods words are actions , and he expects something like this from us : He expects that our actions should answer our words ; that what we say in our Thanksgivings , we should do like it in all the course of our lives ; and that we glorifie God , not only by offering praise , but by ordering our conversation aright . Here are five things observed . First , the malice of wicked men ; they are always wrathfully displeased at us . Secondly , Their endeavours to execute it ; when they rise up against us . Thirdly , The danger of Gods people ; that they shall be swallowed up quick . Fourthly , Gods providence over them , in appearing on their side . And lastly , Their thankfulness to God in their grateful acknowledgment of it . Of all these , there are two things chiefly to be considered , which I have made choice of for my subject at this time . The first is , The malicious designs of Gods enemies for the destruction of his people . The second is , The providence of God , watching over his people to deliver them from his and their enemies . Both these I shall consider ; First , in other instances : and then in the Gunpowder-Treason : 'T is that which perhaps of all others is the greatest that ever was ; 't is that which particularly concerns us this day . I shall shew therefore ; First , how great a danger it was , how near the point of execution , how then God appeared for our deliverance , how wonderful a deliverance it was ; and then , how we ought to shew our sense of it , in our zeal for that Religion which God was so concerned for , and in adorning it by a life that may be exemplary to all other Christians . The first thing that I observe , is , the malice and spitefulness of wicked men , the enemies of God ; their proneness to hurt , and to destroy , his Church , and all true Members of it . This , as soon as I name it , is confest on all hands . For all parties take themselves to be the Church of God : and the worst Sects among Christians ( in my opinion ) are they that take themselves to be the only true Church . Grant but this , that they are the only true Church , and they will not stick with us for my Doctrine . They will acknowledge it , and tell us we are instances of it ; that the enemies of God , hate his Church , and endeavour to destroy it . But because this will signifie nothing , till it appear who are the Church of God , or at least who are the enemies of it ; I shall determine that by bringing it to this issue ; That they who are most given to hate , and to destroy others , especially those others who differ from them in Religion , they are not the Church of God , or at least , they are so far corrupt in that particular . I might say this of Men , without any relation to the Church : the worse they are in other respects , the more prone they are generally to hate those that are better than themselves ; and to shew it , by doing them all the mischief they are able . Whereas on the other hand , Good men are of gracious dispositions : They may be displeased , but not wrathfully ( as it is in my Text : ) They are not prone to do mischief , but are ready to do good , even to enemies : And the better they are , the more they excell in these dispositions . A good man is the only true Image of God , who is good , and does good to all his Creatures , even to Sinners ; who is so far from willing the death of a Sinner , that he does not willingly grieve the children of men . Whereas on the other hand , it is the property of the Devil , to hate , and to hurt , and to destroy all that come in his way . He is therefore called Abaddon and Apollyon in the Revelations . He is truly so . He was a Murderer from the beginning , and will be so even to the end of the world . And by these Characters of God , and the Devil , by their proneness to do good on the one hand , by their proneness to do mischief on the other ; by these we are to distinguish men ( as the Apostle tells us , ) 1 John 3. 10. By this the children of God are manifested , and the children of the Devil . It holds , we see , in particular persons ; but it is much more visible in Societies . And to this I come next ; that , of Societies of men , Christians , of all other , are most averse from ways of violence and blood ; especially from using any such ways upon the account of Religion : And among Christian Churches , where they differ among themselves , if either of them use those ways upon the account of Religion , they give a strong presumption against themselves that they are not truly Christians . There is Reason for this , because , we know that Christ gave Love for the character by which his Disciples were to be known , John 13. 35. By this shall all men know that you are my Disciples , if you have love one to another . And left men should unchristen others first , that they may hate them , and destroy them afterwards ; Christ enlarged his Precept of Love , and extended it even to enemies ; and not only to ours , but to the enemies of our Religion , Matth. 5. 43 , 44. And to enable us to live according to this Precept , he hath given us his Spirit , whereof this is one of the Fruits . For among the Fruits of the Spirit , is not only 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 , but 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ; not only the love of the Brethren , but the love of strangers , even of enemies ; as the Apostle shews , 2 Pet. 1. 5. On the contrary , Hatred is one of the works of the flesh : and they that have not the Spirit of Christ to subdue it , are said to be hateful , and hating one another , Tit. 3. 3. Especially to his Disciples , Christ saith , The world hates you , John 15. 19. You , particularly , as being Christians . And even among Christians , He that saith he is in the light and hates his Brother , his fellow Christian , he is in darkness still , ( saith the Apostle ) 1 Iohn 2. 9. He hath a great want of that light which belongeth to a Christian. To see the use of this Character , let any one consider , how the Christians were treated by the enemies of their Religion ; and then let him consider , how they used their enemies , when they were in power : he shall find that darkness differs not more from light , than the persecuting genius of those enemies , from the calm gentle spirit of Christians . I say , when they were in power ; for there is the tryal . 'T is not much to be heeded , what men do , when they are under Authority . When the Jews had the power to wreak their malice upon Christians , they both killed the Lord Iesus , and his Apostles , and all Christians where they durst for fear of the Romans ; they never ceased , till wrath come upon them to the uttermost : nor even then , for their malice lasts still , it burns inward , and they are not able to keep it from breaking out , sometimes , as it did here very lately , upon an occasion of which I shall say no more in this place . The Heathens likewise shewed their malice against Christians , in divers cruel bloody Persecutions , in the very infancy of our Religion ; and when , the Blood of Martyrs being the seed of the Church , it grew up so wonderfully , and was so vastly numerous , that it seemed an endless work to destroy it ; yet there were those Heathen Princes that despaired not of it , even then : especially Diocletan , and his Colleague , who killed many thousands of Christians , only upon the account of Religion . When the Government changed , as it did in few years after the last Persecution ; and when Christianity was come to be the Established Religion ; there was no Heathen put to death , nor no Jew , upon the account of Religion ; till Popery prevailed , which was as bloody as Judaism or Heathenism . This calm gentle temper of the Primitive Christians , which so gloriously shined forth when they came to be in Power , was that which lay hid in them all the times of Persecution . Then , they could not shew it , but in their Profession : and so indeed they always did , as appears by Tertullian and others , who used to fay , and glory in it , Christianus nullius hostis , a Christian is no mans enemy , a Christian can be no mans enemy : do what you will to him , injure him , slander him , strip and torture him , kill all others of his Religion before his eyes ; and then let him loose , and give him power , place him in your circumstances , he cannot revenge himself upon you . What! that humane nature could bear such things without any resentment ! it was not credible ; their enemies could not believe this ; ( none could believe it , that did not feel it in himself ) till they came to see it ; and then all men believed it , and acknowledged it to be the singular excellency of the Christian Religion . But as our holy Religion excels all others in this admirable temper ; so by this we may usually judge who they are that excel among Christian Churches , when there happens any difference between them ; whether touching the Faith , or the terms of Communion . They that were the more fierce , they generally had the worst Cause . As when the difference was about the keeping of Easter ; it was chiefly between the Roman and the Asian Churches : The Asians were content , that every Church should keep it at what time they pleas'd , so themselves might be allowed to keep it as they had always done ; for they held the precise time to be ( as truly it was ) an indifferent thing : The Romans would not allow that , they were for imposing on other Churches , and for breaking Communion with them that would not receive their Impositions ; Which , as it argued in them a proud and wrathful disposition ; so even by that it appeared they had the worst of the Cause . In like manner , in that heat between Cyprian and Stephen , where neither of them was right in the Cause ; for ( as it commonly happens when men contend ) the Truth lay between them ; yet sure St. Cyprian was in the right in this , in holding that this cause was not sufficient to break Communion between Churches : And there Pope Stephen was in the wrong ; for he did break Communion about it ; he denied jus hospitii , he would not receive a message , he would not hear of an Accommodation . I forbear to repeat the ill terms he gave St. Cyprian , you may read them in the end of Firmilian's Epistle . We all allow that Cyprian was truly a Saint . 'T is well they own him such in the Roman Church . But how they can make that Pope so too , I do not understand ; for it is plain , that to his death he would not allow that Saint to be a Christian. The great power of Error , in moving mens Passions , and enraging them against the Professors of Truth ; and the power of true Religion , in composing mens Passions on the other hand ; both these did appear , as soon as ever a Heresie came to have Publick Authority on its side . It was the Arian Heresie that was newly broke forth before the Council of Nice , and that Council was called to suppress it ; which they did , by no other force , but putting Arians out of their Bishopricks ; They could not think Hereticks fit to be trusted with the Cure of Souls ; But otherwise , as to Temporal things , I do not find that they inflicted any kind of Punishment : But when the Arians came to have the Power in their hands , when theirs was come to be the Imperial Religion ; then , Depriving was nothing , Banishment was the least that they inflicted ; In many places they proceeded to Blood , which was never drawn on the other side by the Orthodox Christians ; except once in a popular Tumult in Alexandria ; where George the intruding Bishop was torn in pieces ; and yet that was rather by Heathens than by Christians , as Ammian himself a Heathen Writer confesses . Except that , ( if it need be excepted , ) I do not remember any other instance , of an Arian that was put to death in those days upon the account of Religion . And to shew that likewise in case of Schism , the best Christians always kept the best temper : besides those instances I have already given , which perhaps are not so proper to prove this , because when they happened , Christianity was not the established Religion : When it was established by Law , then there happened that famous Schism of the Donatists , which gave an evident tryal of this . With what folly and fury did they break out of the Church ? With what insolence and perverseness did they behave themselves towards it ? What out-rages did they commit ? nay , what did they not commit ? even to blood , in the Circumcellions case ; While the Catholicks on the other hand , except in that case , which forced rigor from them in their own defence , treated them with all calmness and gentleness . They called them Brethren in their Writings ; They wooed them to be Friends , and offered them terms of Communion ; such as none would have offered , but passionate lovers of peace ; such as none would have refused , but the obstinate enemies of it : and yet all this while , the Catholicks had the Government on their side ; which since those Schismaticks could not get from them , they took a course to destroy it , by letting in the Vandals into the Roman Empire . I have shewn so much of this Diabolical Spirit , in every sort of the Enemies of the Church of God ; not only in Heathens and Unbelievers , without ; but also in Hereticks and Schismaticks within : And I have shewn so much of the Christian Spirit on the other hand , the great patience and meekness of Gods people in dealing with all sorts of enemies : that considering what advantage they have who lay about them with rage , against those that stand still , and are only ready to suffer , one would wonder , that long since true Religion had not been destroyed , or driven out of the world . But to this I have to answer , ( and this is my second Doctrine ; ) that notwithstanding all this rage and malice of the Adversaries , and notwithstanding all this meekness of Christians ; yet still God is concerned for the Christian Religion ; and he shews it by sending such seasonable Deliverances , as preserve it , often from hurt , and always from utter destruction . Destroyed it shall never be . For so much Christ declared before he built his Church : when he promised to make his Apostles the Foundation-stones in it , saying to Peter in particular Upon thee will I build my Church : He added this promise , that the Gates of Hell should not prevail against it . And so to all his Apostles at parting , when he was about to be taken up into Heaven ; he promised , for all that , I will be with you even to the end of the world . If Christ be with his Church according to his promise , that is enough to secure it against utter destruction . I speak now as to the Catholick , or Universal Church ; for there is no such Promise given to particular Churches . They may be destroyed and perish for their sins . We see many are so already ; almost all that were planted in the Apostles times : The Church of Ierusalem , where our Religion began ; The Church of Antioch , where we were first called Christians ; the Six Churches , to which St. Paul writ his Epistles ; The Seven to which St. Iohn writ in his Revelations : where are they ? scarce a remnant remains : most of them are quite perished from the Earth . This is Gods judgment upon them for their sins : A Judgment which God threatned long since , that if they did not repent , he would take away their Candlestick from them : A Judgment so dreadfully executed to warn us , that unless we repent , we shall all likewise perish . But then , if we do repent , we shall not perish : this we know , for an Exception strengthens a Rule . We know that they which keep up the Power of Religion , shall find it a strong band between them and God ; by which , as we oblige our selves to him , not to leave him nor forsake him ; so he obligeth himself to us , that he will not leave us nor forsake us . And therefore howsoever , for our lesser transgressions , he may punish our offences with a rod , and our sin with scourges : nevertheless his loving kindness will he not utterly take from us , nor suffer his truth to fail . Nay , in this case , if he suffer his Church to be oppressed , his design may be not so much to punish , as to purge them . He may run them through the fire , to melt out their dross , to make them shine more glorious , by having been for a while in Persecution . But whatsoever his dealing may be , ( which we are to resign entirely to his Wisdom ; ) whether he design to punish , or purge us , or whether only to shew us the rod ; we are sure in all conditions to be under the good Providence of God. If our ways please the Lord , either he will make our enemies to be at peace with us ; or he will not let them be able to hurt us : at least , they shall not have their will upon us , they shall not say There , there , so would we have it ; They shall not be able to swallow us up quick , though they are never so wrathfully displeased at us . The ways that God hath to deliver us , are many more than I am able to reckon : and yet I can reckon more than I can bring within my time . But so the thing be done , what matter is it , which way God uses ? whether by destroying his and our enemies ; whether by breaking their Combinations against us ; or by otherwise weakning their strength : whether by infatuating their Counsels , or discovering their crafty designs : whether by raising us up friends , or uniting us among our selves ; and so making us too many and too strong for them : whether by giving means unexpected , or by blessing what we have , above expectation ? He can do what , and which way , he will ; and we are sure it is his will to deliver his People from their enemies ; for he is on their side , and will shew it , wheresoever there is need , and when he sees it the fittest time to deliver them . All that I have said hitherto , hath been only upon such general heads , as are equally acknowledged by all sorts of Christians among us : and for this agreement , we chiefly are under God , to thank his Majesty , and this most Honorable Assembly : that have kept the Church of England in that Power which it received from their Predecessors , and not suffered it to fall into any other hands . Neither our Religion , nor our Church , is of a Persecuting Spirit . I know not how it may be in particular persons . But I say again , it is not in the genius of our Church : She hath no Doctrine that teacheth Persecution ; She hath not practised it , as others , when they were in Authority . I thank God for it , and I hope , she will always continue in that temper ; which ; being added to the other Marks of a true Christian Church , may assure us , that She is a Church according to the mind of Christ. But can all others say the same , that call themselves Churches of Christ ? or were they so , when they had power in their hands ? They that never were in Power , can never answer this Question . Therefore none can answer it so well as the Papists ; and they tell us , Now , they are as much against Persecution as any . But what would they be , if they were in Power ? God forbid we should ever live to see the tryal of it . They have been tryed too much already to be believed in this matter . We have seen , we have felt , sufficient proofs of their Spirit ; more proofs of that sort , to prove them a false Church , than they can shew upon Bellarmin's fifteen notes of a true one . I do not speak now of particular persons : I believe there are many good People of that Communion . I do not think that common Reason , and that common Christianity , can be wholly extinguished by the Principles of their Religion . I doubt not but in some , I hope in many , it prevails above their Religion ; otherwise I know there could not be good People of that Communion . For , take their Religion in it self , abstracting from the common Christianity : and so there is nothing else in it , but Superstition and Cruelty . 'T is Lutum sanguine maceratum , Dirt tempered with Blood , according to Nero's Character . 'T is a Religion so far from making men like God , that it makes them worse then men would be without any Religion . There is a natural compassion in man , that moves him at the sight of others sufferings ; and especially at the sight of great Cruelties , it turns ones very Bowels within him : and 't is no common provocation , that can harden one against this . But take this man , and throughly steep him in Popery , he comes forth , without any compassion at all . He can not only see any Cruelty , but act it : he can act it unprovoked , on any person whatsoever , without remorse , yea with Pleasure and Triumph , as an act of Religion , and a good service to God. And to shew that this Religion is not the common Christianity ; he can do this upon them who have that as well as himself . Otherwise , if it were only on the enemies of Christ , then indeed it might be thought that Christianity moved him to it . But he considers Christians without Popery , no more than he doth Turks or Infidels : which shews , that he is not moved by common Christianity , but by that part of his Religion which is properly Popery . 'T is a Religion ( I am sorry we have no other name to call it by ) that vies Cruelty with antient Judaism and Heathenism . If those destroyed thousands of Christians in Primitive times ; Popery hath destroyed its ten thousands of as innocent persons , and destroyed them with as great Barbarity and Cruelty . I do not think , there was ever such havock made upon the Earth , of Humane Creatures , as was made of millions of Heathens in America . There were never greater Cruelties invented , than were there used ; and that not in anger , but in sport , upon poor helpless innocent creatures . It would make ones flesh tremble , to read them described by their own Writers . And yet they that did these things were very good Catholicks , as they thought themselves ; and they acted like Roman Catholicks in it , for they had the Popes Commission to go thither , and to Conquer that Infidel People . But though this was done by Papists , yet not upon the account of Religion . No ? I know not what should make them so Savage otherwise . But then what think you of the Wars in the Holy-land ? What think you of those Slaughters of the Moors in Spain ? and those Butcheries of Jews in all Countries before the Reformation ? Those were cruel , and universal , without distinction of Age , or Sex ; and it cannot be denied , that those were upon the account of Religion . But that might be the common Christianity , and not Popery only , that they thought of : and therefore I proceed to those Slaughters that they made of Christians ; by their own acknowledgment as good Christians as themselves , in all other points except Popery . For , such were all those whom they were pleased to call Hereticks in the third Canon of the fourth Lateran Council . That Council , in the year 1215. first made Transubstantiation an Article of Faith , and made them Hereticks that would not believe it : and having first provided against their going to Heaven , as far as they could , by declaring all damned that were not of the Roman Faith , in all points , and that of Transubstantiation in particular ; Then ordered the destroying of them from the face of the Earth ; and so left them no place to go to , but Hell : so great was their Charity . In the third Canon of that Council , it was ordained , that all Kings and Princes shall root out Hereticks , and all that favour them , out of their Countreys : and if any do not execute this Canon , the Pope is to take away his Country , and give it to such Catholicks as will do it effectually . This is still as good Law as any is now in the Roman Church : and it was executed strictly in all places before the Reformation . There were at first some Princes that lost their Countreys by it , and the Pope did take the Forfeiture for a warning to other Princes . But who can number the poor Christians that lost their lives by it ? above a hundred thousand Albigenses in France ; many thousands of the Waldenses , there , and in Italy ; the like in Germany of the Bohemians ; besides what suffered in England and other Countreys ; and all put to the cruellest Deaths , on no other account , but their Religion . Indeed for many of them , it was not so evident , that they held any thing against Popery : But it was enough , if being taken upon suspicion , they could not purge themselves of it . The ways of purging wete different in divers places . In some Countreys it was by throwing them into the water , * as some of late have tryed Witches . In other places † the tryal was by putting a Fire-coal in their hands , and trying whether it would cleave to the flesh : For if it did , then they concluded them Hereticks all over , and their whole bodies fit to be burnt . I cannot pass by those two learned and good men , as any were in that Age , if we may judge by their Writings , I mean Iohn Huss and Ierom of Prague : They had to do with the most sober piece of Popery , the Council of Constance ; which invited them thither to Dispute with them for their Religion . But after all their Disputing , instead of having leave to return , according to their Pass-port that brought them thither ; they were burned there , in the presence of the Emperor , from whom they received it : And not only that Cruelty , but that breach of Publick Faith , were owned and justified by the Pope and his General Council . I may perhaps have been too large in things so far off , and so long since ; and therefore , for the rest of my discourse , I shall confine it to England , and to things done since the Reformation . This Church was freed from thraldom by King Henry the Eighth ; and was then Reformed in King Edward VI. days , with no material difference from what it is now at this present . Soon after his death , under Queen Mary his Successor , it came to have a through feeling of the Spirit of Popery . Though she came in with the greatest assurance , that she would make no Change in * Religion : Though she promised it upon her Royal word , to those Protestants , that brought her to her Crown ; though they deserved it without a promise , by venturing their lives for her against a Protestant that was set up in oppositition : Yet she was no sooner setled upon her Throne , but the Spirit of Popery quite cancell'd all those Obligations . There were none that durst appear for the Protestant Religion , but were fain to fly their Countrey to save their lives , or stayed and lost them with the cruellest deaths . Of the last sort , were , the Archbishop of Canterbury , and divers Bishops , and other eminent persons . Both they , and hundreds more , of the Clergy and Commonalty , were burnt alive , upon no other account but their Religion . There was only one Flower , here at Westminster , that was distracted , and wounded a Priest at Mass , for which he was burnt among the rest . Of all the other that suffered , there was no other pretence against any , but only upon the account of their Religion . Their charge was for not going to Confession , or for not going to Mass , or for denying Transubstantiation when they were called to it . There was nothing else in their Accusation , there was nothing else in their Sentence , there was nothing else for which they suffered ; It was meerly for their not submitting to Popery ; a sufficient proof of the Spirit of that Religion . But soon after , when the Protestant Religion came in again ; see what a contrary Spirit appeared on the other side . When Queen Elizabeth came to Reign , and immediately declared her Religion , and Established it in her first Year , without any violence ; from that day forward , for ten years together , what one Papist was there that suffered death for his Religion ? Though living in the midst of them , whose dearest Friends and Relations they had murdered ; and though those Protestants could say , There goes he that burnt my Father , or he that murdered my Brother , or that brought them to that cruel Death ; Though the Queen her self could say , who they were , that in her Sisters time dealt most insolently and barbarously with her : ( for they had taken away her Attendants , and put her under a Guard of Souldiers , and carried her Prisoner from place to place ; and that they had not murdered her too , she was beholding to the Spaniard for it , Though not so much to his Humanity , as his Policy ; for if she had been dead , the Queen of Scotland , who had married the Dauphin , would have been the next Heir to the Crown : But for her life she knew she owed no thanks to those Papists that were now her own Subjects ; ( I mean , to those of the English Nation : ) yet when she came to be their Queen , for ten years , she touched not a hair of any of their heads . Only she kept them from publick exercise of Popery , she required them to come to Church every Lords-day , and those that did not , she made them pay Twelve pence a Sunday . This was all that they suffered for ten years , after ours was the Established Religion . Was there ever so generous a revenge ? so much Cruelty requited with so much Clemency ? After that , the Pope ( by an Authority he gives himself ) made bold to declare her uncapable to Reign ; because forsooth she was a Heretick ; and exhorted all her Subjects to depose her , and to murder her , by a Bull that he gave out for that purpose : This Bull being set up publickly at noon-day by one of her own Subjects , and he being taken and hanged for it , they had the impudence to call him a Martyr ; and he stands the first Martyr in their Roll , among all them that suffered in her Reign . So it was ten years before any of them suffered , and then it was for declaring her no Queen , and for posting up the Popes Bull , to make her Subjects depose her and murder her . That Bull had such an effect upon many of her Subjects , that they broke out into open Rebellion against her . When that failed , they betook themselves to private Conspiracie to destroy her , any way , by Assassination : Which was proved time after time , as fully , and as clearly , as ever any thing was proved under the Sun. And it was proved that the first movers to it were Popish Priests , and especially Jesuites , who came over from beyond-Sea for that purpose . This obliged her to make Sanguinary Laws , to keep them out of the Kingdom ; which yet were rarely inflicted upon any , but those that were found to have actually carried on some design against her life : And there were divers Penalties upon them of that Religion , to make that uneasie to them , which was so dangerous to her and to her Kingdom . But in King Iames his time , it was almost three years that he had reigned , before the Gunpowder-Treason ; during all which time , there was no Papist put to death , upon any of those Laws : There was no Penalty inflicted upon any of them , that could be pretended to be upon the account of Religion . But contrariwise , they were remitted the arrears of all their Penalties in Queen Elizabeths time : nay , more than that , they were admitted to Court ; they were employed in Embassies ; they had Honors conferred upon them , as well as others : they were debarred from nothing , but only the Publick Exercise of their Religion : and that was provocation enough , to engage them into that hellish Treason , which was to have been executed as on this day . It was a Treason that shewed the Spirit of that Faction , how fierce and implacable it was , after so much experience of ours on the contrary : It shewed how impossible it was to oblige them : how impossible to keep them from doing mischief ; such a mischief , as none other could have invented , none but would have abhorred it , that had not been possest with the evil spirit of that Religion . What! to murder their King , that had been so gentle and easie to them ? to murder the innocent hopes of that Royal Family ? to murder a whole Nation together , in their Representative then met in Parliament ? All was struck at together , as if they had been but one person ; as if ( according to Caligula's wish , ) they had but one neck . They were for blowing them up , for swallowing them up at once , for overwhelming all that was Venerable and Sacred in this Nation : for burying both our State and our Religion in one heap of destruction and ruine . Good God! If thou hadst not been on our side , what had become of us , when men rose up against us , to swallow us up quick ? Men ? Who would ever suspect men of such a wickedness ? We ought not to think that men were capable of it ; we ought not to entertain so hard an opinion of Humane Nature . It was something else that put them upon it . It was something which they mis-call Religion , that made them put off their Humanity . It was this which transformed men into such monsters , that brought them , not only to think of this , but to design it . For their part it was actually done . I do not charge all of that Religion with this Action : ( Religion do I call it ? I unwillingly use so good a word on so ill an occasion ; But since they call it so , let it pass : I say then that all the Authors were only of that Religion ; and they acted according to their own Principles , those Principles which they received from their Spiritual Governors . Their Counsellors were of the Governing Party : They were Jesuites , who had their Superior in the Plot. I need not tell you , of the malice , the closeness , the subtilty , the rage and cruelty of that Faction ; that hath sufficently appeared in a hundred other things : in other Exploits they have out-done all other men ; but they out-did themselves , in this unhumane , this Devilish Conspiracy . It was contrived with such foresight , it was managed with such policy , it was carried on with that closeness and secresie , as not once to gather wind , in some years , till they had brought all their business to perfection . There was but a short time , but one night , but half a night , between the Plot and the Execution , if God had not miraculously interposed . The Vault was dug , the Magazine was laid in , the Iron-bars were laid over , the Engineer was at hand , the Match was laid , it was sized for an hour , a fatal hour , of this morning , of the Fifth of November : In a minute of which , in a moment ; all the governing part of this Nation , and God knows who more , all that came within reach , were to have been swallowed up quick . Lord ! What a thunderclap had it been , to this Nation , to this Church , to this Kingdom ? What an Earthquake it would have been ? What a Chaos it would have made ? What a Tragical day to every thing but Popery ? Nay to Papists themselves ? I doubt not many would have abhorr'd it ; I am persuaded they would ; many would have abhorr'd their very Popery : But they could not have remedied what was past , nor have prevented the following miseries . Then this day had stood in red Letters in their Almanacks , though some are pleased to leave it out of ours . Then they must have kept this a Holy-day , that cannot now afford it a Thanksgiving . Then they must have gone to Mass for it , that will not joyn with us now in our Prayers ; and some that will not now give a Faggot , must then have lighted one . 'T is not in my power , nor words , nor in the wit of man , to enumerate all the evils and miseries that would have come upon this Nation . It could not have been otherwise , if the Lord had not been on our side . If the Lord had not been on our side , we had been gone , we had never been born , or had cause to have wished we had never been . Oh! how are we bound to thank God , that he was on our side on this day ? How are we bound to praise his name , for preserving us so many times since ? I need not reckon up to you the particulars . I know of no great danger we have been in , but hath more or less been occasion'd by the same sort of men ; or if they did not begin it , they have struck in with it , and contributed to carry it on all they could . And shall we tempt God , by doing nothing to secure our selves against them ? It is plain that this were contrary to Gratitude . But what shall we do towards our safety ? there is nothing more worth our consideration . But do I ask that ? when I know what this August Assembly hath judged ? And if your judgment be seconded , as I hope it will be , there is no doubt his Majesty will assent to it : Then we shall have no occasion for any more such Miracle ; there will be an ordinary way , to keep us out of this danger . First , they will be obliged , all the Papists that stay in England , at least for their own ease , if not for the common security , to consider , whether they are bound in Conscience to be still of that Faction . That is more than we have been able to bring them to for many years . They would rarely endure any of our Clergy to speak to them . They had their ears stopt against us , for fear of better information . If you can but bring them to hear Truth , I am persuaded they cannot continue Papists . I know they cannot , if they have so much sense in them , as to consider , how little reason they have for it . And for them that will not hear nor consider , neither of themselves , nor when Authority requires it , what can be more reasonable than what you have judged ? I think none will judge otherwise , that will consider the present case . This , I take it , is the present case between them and us ; our main difference is in a plain point of practice , whose Subjects they and we must be . They will needs be subject to one that lives in Italy . If they will be so , who can help it ? Nay that will not content them , but we must be his Subjects too : That is hard , when we can see no reason for it . Nay , we must , or we shall never be quiet otherwise . No ? Cannot we intreat them ? Cannot be oblige them to be quiet ? We have endeavoured to do it , with all possible Civility ; and yet we cannot be quiet , without being what we will never be . Then it is time to part , if we cannot live together ; that 's plain . But now the question is , Who shall go ? that would I , with all my soul , if Popery were the Religion of England . I protest , I would not stay in it . And yet I have done nothing to make my Country afraid of me ; and I have nothing but my Religion to provoke any of them . I hate the person of no Papist , or man in the world . I would have no man punished for his Religion ; no not them that destroy men for Religion . I would not punish them ; but I would not live with them , if I could help it . I know no Sect among Christians that I would not live under rather than Popery . But what matter is it for such a one as me ? I expect from them no regard to what I say . But methinks they should have some regard for their Country . I would tell them , if they were present , your Country is afraid of you . She does as it were beg you to be gone . For a hundred years she hath been in danger of you . She hath not suffered but some way or other on your account . The Spanish Invasion was for Popery . The Gunpowder-Treason was for Popery . One Civil War was in a great measure occasioned by Popery . She is in danger of another Civil War by Popery . I will not say what she hath suffered abroad for your sakes . She hath suffered more than she can well bear ; and must she suffer still ? must she still be in fear for your sakes ? Why should you not be gone , and free her from her fears ? If they are true , that she may not be destroyed : and if false , that she may not be always in fear of you . But perhaps we cannot expect so much favour at their hands , and therefore we should be the more careful for our selves . Let us do what we can do , if we will , without them . We need not fear them so much , if it were not for our Divisions . That is the thing which makes us most in danger of them . We divide , and subdivide ; We take the way to make our selves weak , and little , and indefensible . We promote their design by it , to swallow us up . We should not go down so easily whole , as we may do in small pieces . We cannot but see this . Oh! that we had hearts to consider it ! that we would do what we can to unite our selves ! Surely we can , if we will : we could , if we had but a real mind to it . We will , and must very speedily do it ; or else , if we do not unite , do what we will otherwise , we shall let in Popery , even by the ways that we take to keep out Popery . Well! nothing can be too bad for us to suffer , upon the account of our sins : yet nothing can be too good to expect , from that God , who hath preserved us , and will preserve us , if we are not wanting to our selves . If we Reform our lives according to our Religion ; if we eschew evil and do good , if we seek peace and ensue it ; then we shall see good days , then God will delight to dwell among us , he will build us like Ierusalem , a City at unity within it self , that shall stand fast for ever . The Lord grant it for his Mercy sake . Amen . FINIS . Notes, typically marginal, from the original text Notes for div A48851-e210 * That is , in the Booksellers style , 1677. * Aug. 30. 1675. † p. 17. o● the Collection of Letter● set out by order of the House of Commons . * March 1676. Ibid p. 82. Notes for div A48851-e600 * Bernard . super Cant. Serm. 67. † Caesar. ab Heist . dist . 3. c. 16 , 17. * Dr. Burnet's Hist. of Reform . Part. 2. The Bill against Popery , that has pass'd in the House of Lords .